 after the physical death of someone who has attained nibbana is conceptualizing or proliferating ("papañca") about that which is without proliferation ("appapañcaṃ") and thus a kind of distorted thinking bound up with the self.Edward Conze argued that nirvana was a kind of Absolute.He mentions ideas like the "person" ("pudgala"), the assumption of an eternal "consciousness" in the Saddhatu sutra, the identification of the Absolute, of Nirvana, with an "invisible infinite consciousness, which shines everywhere" in Digha Nikaya XI 85, and "traces of a belief in consciousness as the nonimpermanent centre of the personality which constitutes an absolute element in this contingent world" as pointing to this.