".He said that an organism is conscious "if and only if there is something that it is like to be that organism—something it is like "for" the organism"; and he argued that no matter how much we know about an animal's brain and behavior, we can never really put ourselves into the mind of the animal and experience its world in the way it does itself.Other thinkers, such as the cognitive scientist Douglas Hofstadter, dismiss this argument as incoherent.