 This opinion, though, is contradicted by historians today.Researchers M. Dolch and A. Greule, for example, hold that the church in question was the one in a place called Neunkirchen southeast of Kübelberg, known as “Neuenkirchen” in contrast to “Altenkirchen” ("neu" and "alt" are German for “new” and “old” respectively).They base their thesis on the assertion that the said church appears several times in documents from the 10th century, and that its location was more thoroughly described, as in 956 when it was described as being in a forest near the "Cheuilinbahc" (a brook now called the Kohlbach, and also likely the old name for Kübelberg, but certainly not for Schwedelbach).