 This band changed its name to the Twelve Clouds of Joy, or the Clouds of Joy, at which point Terrence Holder formed a new band using the original name.Following this Holder played in various groups on the Kansas City jazz scene of the 1930s, including with Buddy Tate, Budd Johnson, and Claude Williamson.In the 1940s he played with Nat Towles, but found less and less work as time went on.