 Exploring the possibilities for CARTE-SOE cooperation, SOE summoned Girard or any other officer of CARTE to come to London.Not wanting to go himself, Girard sent Frager and, on 30 June 1942, the Polish trawler "Tarana" took on Frager and brought him to Gibraltar, from where he flew to England by plane.In London that July, at Orchard Court, he met SOE's chiefs (Maurice Buckmaster, Nicholas Bodington, and probably Charles Hambro and Colin Gubbins).