 He also performed with various 'underground' luminaries of the time such as Al Stewart, Tea and Symphony, and the Sutherland Brothers.During the early 1970s, he became a student of Welsh and French at the University of Lampeter and gained literacy skills in Welsh.He came to prominence in the early 1980s, with the publication of two volumes of poetry - mainly written in free verse - "Noethni" in 1983 and "Jazz yn y nos" three years later.