 In 1997, he composed an album for two Anglo-Japanese singers, the Winchester Sisters and also participated in a disc where he met the jazz musicians of the group The Recyclers, with which he will work thereafter.He composes in parallel L’homme à trois mains and Les créatures.The first is interpreted and recorded as usual, only at home with derisory means, while the second is with the Recyclers, in more "conventional" conditions.