 "We Never Learn" described Doug Gillard as looking like "a Kandinsky doodle of Johnny Thunders (fishnet armbands, glitter platforms), a Weimar-era prostitute (black stockings, lace) and a suburban punk (guitar slash shards and greeeezy hair)".James provided the stability, Petkovic the energy, according to Thurston Moore, writing in the liner notes to "If Memory Serves Us Well"