 In the first series a team named Blue, who dyed their skin blue prior to the event, communicated only by handing notes to her, or with their mouthpiece.After a couple of years with BNN, she decided in 2005 to move over to the newly formed commercial station, Talpa of John de Mol, where she gained the possibility to produce television shows herself.However, her first job was to present "Big Brother 5" together with Ruud de Wild.