 While eating seafood and showing each other pictures, it is revealed that Carl is a widower and has two children, a son and a daughter.His son is in the Air Force and is stationed in Germany, and he has "a couple of little ones", making Carl a grandfather.His daughter is married to an African-American lawyer and lives in Utah, so Carl and Debbie bond a bit over the fact that they have to allow their children to be who they are.