 However these references date from the 1990s or later.In 1996 Michael J. Benton cited the 1993 edition of Mark Ridley's book "Evolution", Richard Dawkins wrote in 2005 that Haldane was responding to a challenge by a "Popperian zealot".In 2004 Richa Arora wrote that the story was told by John Maynard Smith (1920–2004) in a television programme.