 The group was called "Chaotic Noise" with Evan Warech on drums and some temporary bassists during 1984, they played a lot of shows around L.A. with different bands of the same scene like No Mercy, Suicidal Tendencies, Beowülf and Cryptic Slaughter.They became very good friends of all those musicians and adopted each other as early influences.A few months later, Rickey Pallamino took over the four strings and Chaotic Noise recorded their first "Demo".