 Their first meeting would lead to a ten-year relationship with Hsu, on occasion Black visited his school in Taiwan to receive instruction from his senior students.Black trained with Hsu when he came to California, hosted Hsu at his school in Yuma, and went to Taiwan on several occasions, including a trip in 1980 in which he participated in the Cheng Chung Cup invitational tournament and won the super heavyweight division.Besides xingyiquan, Black also learnt Traditional Chinese Medicine, tuina, bone-setting, and herbal applications for injuries.