 They were notorious and obnoxious and caused, as it did to (him) a lot of hurt".In 1918, he became associated with Cox and Company Ltd, bankers of London as technical advisor and factory manager.In April 1921, he was resident at Redcliff, Caswell Bay, Glamorganshire and was described as "general manager and Chief Engineer to a large industrial concern" In 1922, he went to join W.H.