 He spends a lot of time with Natasha; in a conversation with her he speaks of how an old love can only be replaced by a new one.At the same time, Lezhnev gives the account of his youth and his friendship with Rudin, making for the first time the point that Rudin is “too cold” and inactive.On the next day, Natasha quizzes Rudin over his words about old and new love.