 These include You Am I's "Good Mornin'", "Tuesday" and Spiderbait's "Ivy and the Big Apples" (1997, engineer), The Cruel Sea's "Hard Times" (1998, producer), Spiderbait's "Grand Slam" (1999, engineer, producer), Grinspoon's "New Detention" (2002, engineer, producer), Sunk Loto's "Between Birth and Death" (2004, producer), and Something with Numbers' "Perfect Distraction" (2007, producer).In the late 1970s Phil McKellar worked at the Australian Broadcasting Commission (later renamed as Australian Broadcasting Corporation).In 1978 a fellow worker, Steve Adam, invited him to join an experimental music outfit, the Informatics, alongside Ramesh Ayar, Valek Sadovchikoff and Michael Trudgeon.