 In 1985-1986 he lived in Pittsburgh and worked and toured with the Pittsburgh Dance Alloy.He also directed two Sam Shepard plays, "Cowboy Mouth" and "Action" as well as original performance works, in his rented expansive loft with theater seats.After moving to New York City in 1986, he performed with various modern dance choreographers, including Steve Gross and Bill Cratty, touring with Cratty's company for a year, and at The Yard on Martha's Vineyard in 1987.