 He had tough luck in this change of clubs since Karlsruher SC could not avoid relegation to the 2.Bundesliga in the remainder of the season and, so, he had to return to playing games on that level in 1985–86.For the campaign of 1986–87 he returned to the Bundesliga with a move to Fortuna Düsseldorf, but experienced another relegation from Bundesliga with them then.