 In 1977 he founded the New Orchestra Workshop (NOW), and he has been active in many of the ensembles associated with NOW, including the NOW Orchestra.His work with Lisle Ellis is extensive, and includes the duo CD "Both Sides of the Same Mirror" (Nine Winds, 1989); "When Silence Pulls", with Andrew Cyrille (Music & Arts, 1990); "Noir", with Bruce Freedman and Gregg Bendian (Victo, 1992); "Density of the Lovestruck Demons" with Donald Robinson (Music & Arts, 1994); and "Safecrackers" with Scott Amendola (Victo, 1999).Most notable, perhaps, are two recordings for Hat Art