 We played under-promoted tours, and there were some nights when only 10 people showed up... and it does become hard to justify driving 1000 miles to play one show where 10 people have shown up.I mean, we played those shows, we played them masterfully, we put everything we had into them... but you can only do that for so long.You can only have that happen so many times..."

Sain spent the summer of 2001 recording and producing the album "The Astonished Eyes Of Evening" for the Los Angeles band Cinema Strange, which was released on German label Trisol.