 Pliny's "Natural History" (4.100) claimed that the Irminones included the Suebi, Hermunduri, Chatti, and Cherusci.In the so-called Frankish Table of Nations (c. 520), probably a Byzantine creation, the son of Mannus who was the ancestor of the Irminones is named Erminus (or Armen, Ermenius, Ermenus, Armenon, Ermeno, as it appears in various manuscripts).He is said to have fathered the Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Vandals, Gepids and Saxons.