 From Clement (c. 195), who probably also knew the work of Papias, comes a unique and much-discussed statement that the gospels with genealogies (i.e., Matthew and Luke) were "written before" ("progegraphthai"), in contrast to Mark.Farmer touted this as support for Marcan posteriority, but Carlson argued that the word was better interpreted as "openly published", in contrast to Mark's initially private circulation.Origen (c. 250), a pupil of Clement who also knew the work of Irenaeus well, enumerates the Gospels as follows