 Douglas suggested that MacLachlan come to London to discuss the matter; MacLachlan left April 29, arrived in London May 9, and proceeded to meet with Douglas at his fishing lodge.Douglas refused to come to Alberta himself, but provided two of the "experts" the Board was charged with finding.The first was L. D. Byrne, who was in the insurance business, was an expert on social credit, and was appointed to do most of the substantive work.