 Horace's "Satires" and "Epistles" however also had a huge impact, influencing theorists and critics such as John Dryden.There was considerable debate over the value of different lyrical forms for contemporary poets, as represented on one hand by the kind of four-line stanzas made familiar by Horace's Sapphic and Alcaic "Odes" and, on the other, the loosely structured Pindarics associated with the odes of Pindar.Translations occasionally involved scholars in the dilemmas of censorship.