there it was his delight often to stand on the battle- ments at dawn , and folk rejoiced to see the new light catch the wings of his helm -- and many murmured and would fain have backed him into battle with the orcs , seeing that the speeches of those two , tuor and turgon , before the palace were known to many ; but this matter went not further for reverence of turgon , and because at this time in tuor 's heart the thought of the words of ulmo seemed to have grown dim and far off .