now despite the wisdom of their wisest such bitter words confused their counsels and delayed them , and there were no few of the stout-hearted that found hope in them , being sad at the thought of abandoning those places where they had begun to make an abiding place of peace and goodliness ; but turin begged orodreth for a sword , and he had not wielded a sword since the slaying of beleg , but rather had he been contented with a mighty club .