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[0] checkbox [#] position [cover] cover [title] title Where Men Win Glory: The Odyssey of Pat Tillman [author] author Krakauer, Jon * [isbn] isbn 0385522266 [isbn13] isbn13 9780385522267 [asin] asin [num pages] num pages 383 pp [avg rating] avg rating 4.01 [num ratings] num ratings 18,284 [date pub] date pub Sep 15, 2008 [date pub (ed.)] date pub edition Sep 15, 2009 [rating] Lucas's rating 4 of 5 stars [my rating] my rating 1 of 5 stars2 of 5 stars3 of 5 stars4 of 5 stars5 of 5 stars add to shelves [notes] notes Notes are private! [recommender] recommender none [comments] comments 0 [votes] votes 0 [read count] # times read 1 [date started] date started not set [date read] date read Dec 16, 2009 [date added] date added Dec 06, 2009 [date purchased] date purchased [owned] owned [purchase location] purchase location [condition] condition [format] format Hardcover [29] actions view [review] 
review This book works pretty well as a sequel to 'Into The Wild', both have a young man getting killed when they abandon a comfortable life and try to live This book works pretty well as a sequel to 'Into The Wild', both have a young man getting killed when they abandon a comfortable life and try to live up to their ideals. Instead of only looking at the high profile cases of deliberate wartime misinformation from the White House and Pentagon, I would have liked Krakauer to go into the same level of detail for other instances of embarrassing mishap and friendly fire. It would be far more difficult of course, because there is the benefit of secondary military and congressional investigations for the highly publicized cases. I don't have a problem with most of the characterization Krakauer has of the Bush administration's incompetence, but what irritates me is when he repeatedly says that certain decisions were made 'for political reasons'. This is a content free criticism, any time someone in a position of power makes a decision that one disagrees with it can be said to be political, when what is really meant is that the stated reasons for a decision and the actual reasons are not the same. It's not too hard to generate a chain of logic in which lying to the American people is justified in terms of serving the interests of the American people (or at least some subset thereof), and that is whether that logic is valid should be the true point of criticism- don't resort to blaming politics and going no further. The book is extremely concerned with particular friendly fire incidents but doesn't make any broad recommendations of what should be done. The obvious conclusions would be that independent investigation should replace same-service investigations, and that there should be stiffer criminal punishments for destroying evidence. ...more
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