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Alright, let s get into the episode.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Hi, how are ya?
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Oh my god, hi.
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Um, I was afraid you were gonna answer, to be honest.
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You, you called and yet you were afraid I was going to answer.
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Yes, because my, like my whole body got pink.
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I started getting anxious when I heard like the tone that I actually got through.
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Well, you know that anxiety, you know, I ve, I always used to think.
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Not all anxiety, but pointed anxiety.
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You know when you re anxious because you can really point it to something specific?
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It s a form of excitement.
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I used to do a lot of stand-up, and of course I do my live shows and stuff, but I used to get nervous before a show or something I cared about.
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And I always used to try to, in my head, be like, this is good.
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It s good to be nervous.
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It means that life is happening.
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You know right you re like think like think about when you re the most depressed And just like there s nothing and you re like I could just could fucking die right now like you re not Nervous, you know those times period you re not nervous.
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So nervousness even though it s a tough emotion to deal with it it Signifies that things in your life are are happening are happening and it s a weird.
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It s also like a weird form of like being present
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You know, you re kind of you re a little bit more present when you re nervous, in a sense.
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You re you re not depressed about the past or anxious about the future.
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You re like, well, I guess you can have anxiety about the future or be nervous about the future.
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But I mean, you re nervous about a thing that you re actually in right now.
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That s kind of a blessing, is it not?
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Yeah, that s true.
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I mean, I pushed myself to not hang up, which I usually do when I get through to say my name.
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I usually just hang up.
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I m afraid but I pushed through I mean I ve had problems with anxiety since I was like 10 like embarrassing things that I ve been anxious for so I m thinking I m just gonna keep on pushing through well why don t you take yourself off the speakerphone and we can talk more oh no okay are you are you off the speakerphone now I am what s your name my name yeah you give me a fake name
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No, no, no.
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My name is Johanna.
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I m not American.
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I was going to ask you, where are you from?
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You sound like you have an accent.
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I m from Sweden.
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Oh, hargan, hargan, dargan.
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Wait, I was actually gonna go to your live show, but I ended up like having to do something else that evening But I was actually wanted to ask you I know this is not about you, but what you thought about freedom what you didn t see it If you don t mind me asking yes, I had a live show in Stockholm, Sweden and It was it was cause only there for like a day, but you guys have You guys there was a 7-eleven.
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I just eat at 7-eleven everywhere.
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I go because it s easy
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No, there was some like Udon shit at the 7-Eleven.
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And I was like, oh, this is cool.
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This 7-Eleven has like an Udon bar.
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Whoa, wait.
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Okay.
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That must have been a high tech 7-Eleven.
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I do know we have compared to America or New York where I live right now.
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It is really fresh and sweet and everything.
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How old are you, Joanna?
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I m 22.
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Why do you, what are you doing living in New York?
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Um, I guess I ve always wanted to kind of live here.
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I think it might be partly because I ve watched Gossip Girl as a kid.
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Honestly, I m going to blame it on that.
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I don t know.
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I ve always see like energy, but right now I m here to study.
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I m going to answer your questions shortly.
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What are you studying?
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Uh, communication design.
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It was honestly something I m not really wanted to do before.
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I just.
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I wanted to be in New York and the easiest way to get here, if you have some money, is through a student visa.
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But I do enjoy it.
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New York s a great city.
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What do you think of New York compared to Stockholm?
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New York is way more fun.
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It is way more fun.
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I don t like being catcalled, but I do like being able to go to do anything whenever I want to, compared to Stockholm.
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Why can you not do things in Stockholm today?
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Does everything everything closes early, doesn t it?
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Yeah, everything s closer here.
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Also, everything s open much later.
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America s really like special in that way that it s like retail stores are open to like 10 p.m.
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And I just feel bad for the workers because I don t know what they have like white customers from in the 10 p.m.
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Um... Now, what are you studying?
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Oh wait, fuck.
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Hold on, you already said that.
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So, I know you have a bad memory.
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I watched the... I watched the Podden.
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Did you just call it... Did you just call it a Podden?
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I m... Pod... No, Pod.
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Podcast.
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Oh, I m screaming.
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Wait.
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Podcast.
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Okay, I thought you called it a Podden.
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I like... And I thought that was like a Swedish name for podcast.
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That is, uh, the, the, if you, I don t know what it s called, but it s like the, if you were supposed to say the pod, that s what it s called.
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Poddom.
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Um, all right.
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So you re studying communicate.
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What do you want to be when you grow up?
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I don t know.
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I don t want to have a baby daddy like the other caller, I think, but I am very afraid of settling down in the relationship.
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Um, I don t know.
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I don t, I want to be, I want to make money.
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Okay.
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Nice.
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Nice.
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Are you, are you like going on any dates or anything like that while you re, while you re in town?
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Um, I actually haven t gone on any dates the past year when I ve been here.
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I kind of, first of all, Oh, I m gonna, I don t know if this is going to sound good or not, but,
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Guys here, I use Hinge, and I can see already that guys here are shorter than me.
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I mean, I m just 5 8 , but I think also the dating culture here is not something that I m really attracted to.
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It is very true that if you come from a Nordic region over to the United States, you will be disappointed in the average height of the average man.
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Yeah, but there are way more.
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There s a lot of boys here that are very attractive, not boys.
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Wait, guys, not boys, not young boys, people over the age of 22.
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Yes, I am going.
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Yeah, I am going on a date this Saturday with a hinge guy.
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Yeah, I mean, it s just been the best because I can learn more about the person.
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I feel like Tinder is not... What was it on this guy s Hinge profile that was inspiring to you to meet up with him?
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The same reason that it was that I started watching you, which was a mention of the H3 podcast, which I do watch.
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So I was just like, okay, that s nice.
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This guy might be able to talk to him about some things we have in common.
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So you went on a date with this guy just because he was a fan of the H3 podcast?
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No, I m going on a date with him on Saturday.
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You re going on a date with him just because he s a fan of the H3 podcast.
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So there s yes, I m just gonna do it if you re listening to this podcast put if put in your dating app All right, I m gonna throw this out there as an experiment I want you if you re listening to this put this to the listeners if you re listening to this podcast throw a Therapy gecko listener in your dating profile
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And let me know if that gets you any matches.
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Let me know if anyone messages you based upon that I m serious if you put to put that in your tinder bio or hinge bio and let me know if you end up Going on any dates or getting any messages or falling deeply in love because of that.
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I m very curious wedding.
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Oh
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Um, I ve always said this.
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I ve always said this.
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This is my deal.
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This is my deal to anyone who wants me to officiate their wedding.
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If you can do it within, um, a 10 minute walk from wherever I currently am at and there s food there, I ll do it.
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What about an Uber?
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If like we re 30 minutes away, but we get you an Uber.
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Would you get me an Uber home too?
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Um, if it s less than 20 bucks, yeah.
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I need a guaranteed Uber home, a guaranteed Uber there, and the Uber length of time has to be less than 30 minutes.
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Okay, we ll talk about it when I find my gecko man, my gecko husband.
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Okay, great.
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Great.
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Um, well, that s cool.
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Uh, what else?
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Oh, is there a, is there a, I was gonna ask you before, is there a, like a specific thing you called to want to talk about?
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I did want to call about one thing, but I was thinking I did not want to talk about it because I told my mom that if I ever wanted to be on this podcast, I d talk about something.
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And she said, oh, then I would want to listen.
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So I was like, I m not going to talk about this, but I think this is thanks to you as well that I ve done this.
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So since I ve come to the US,
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I ve tried weed, and I think I ve heard you talk about it, so I felt more comfortable doing it.
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You started smoking weed because of me?
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No.
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I m not gonna admit to that, but you ve been talking about it, so I ve been like, okay, it s not that weird.
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I ll try it.
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And I was actually waiting a couple of days ago for you to go live for me too.
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pop an edible cause I knew that I feel like you d be the right person to speak to or watch if I got high.
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Uh, but I, I took a 50 milligram edible and I didn t feel anything.
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You took a 50 milligram edible after smoking weed?
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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So I ve smoked a blunt before and I didn t really feel anything.
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I took, I ve took, um, like 20 milligram or 15 milligram a couple of days ago.
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Didn t feel anything.
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And today I took a 50 now.
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And I felt like a little bit, like it just felt a little bit of tension.
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But other than that, I didn t feel anything.
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And I don t know what the problem is.
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55, like five, zero, 50.
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Yes, sir.
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And how long ago did you take that?
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I actually had to have a timer.
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Wait, I m going to turn off, turn on the speaker real quick to go check the timer that I set.
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Okay, oh wait, so this isn t something, this is something you recently did.
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Okay, yeah, wait.
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It s hours and 26 minutes ago since I took a 50 milligram edible.
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An hour and, and you don t feel anything.
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No, six, six hours and 26 minutes.
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So it s been like a while now.
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Okay, you took a 50 milligram edible six hours ago and you feel nothing.
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Yeah, I didn t, like I felt- Did you have a big Swedish breakfast this morning?
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I don t know, but I m on meds, so that might be what s interfering it.
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And I have a really high alcohol tolerance, and I don t know if that affects it too.
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I don t want to ask my mom, because I know she will be angry if I try to do it again.
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I don t like to talk, I don t like to read the chat or talk about the chat while on the podcast, but I m going to.
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StonedBear710 says, 50 milligrams is a low dose.
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Well, of course it is for you, StonedBear.
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I actually have some, I posted some friends about it, a friend that s
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Casual smoker or not cash.
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I think she smokes a lot, but she usually takes 200 to 400 milligrams So next time I will try 100 I m thinking maybe 75 because they are 100 Milligram candies like each of them.
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Where did you where did you buy?
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Where did you buy this edible from?
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Just like one of these from New York I
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pot places one of the smoke smoke shops that s what it s called is weed recreationally legal in new york now i will i think so but i will not comment on if
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It s legal for me as a visa holder to consume these weeds.
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It would be.
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If it s recreationally legal for everyone, then it s recreationally legal for you as long as you re 21.
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Yeah, but it s one of these like brand ones.
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Do you want me to say what it s called?
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It s like pre-packaged, like one of those candies.
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No, you re immune to weed.
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When weed turns everybody into flesh-eating zombies, you ll be the last one left.
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That s good.
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I take if I took like if I want to if I want to get like good and fucked up on edible I ll take 10 Milligrams, so you took five of those, but anyway, you know what maybe you re just so maybe just or maybe it s naturally too cool Anyway, I m a bit.
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Okay.
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I think that might be it like This all this all you we were talking about this because you said you had a specific thing you wanted to talk about What was that specific?
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Oh?
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No, I just needed to know if I should take a higher dose of
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I don t think I have anything other interesting.
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Not right now.
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Another time.
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Okay.
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I m going to ignore that question.
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There was a, you said you were talking to your mom and there was like a thing you wanted to talk about on the podcast.
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And like you or mom said, Oh, if you talked about it, I d want to listen to it.
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What was that thing?
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It was about the thing we just spoke about.
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Wait, it was, it was just about this weed edible.
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Yeah.
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Cause I mean, in Sweden,
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every drug, like recreational or not is illegal.
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There were two things that you wanted to talk about.
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And all right, if this is one of them, oh, I, at the end of the call, I started talking about like, I have had panic attacks since I was 10 years old.
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And for the stupidest things, too.
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I can tell you one of them if you want, but it might not be interesting enough.
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Um, I only laughed because I only laughed because I felt like, um, I mean, I guess people smoke weed for panic attacks, but I think weed, everyone s different, man.
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So some people weed gives panic attacks, but anyway.
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Uh, yeah, sure.
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We can, we can talk about panic attacks.
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I m not going to, I have no, I have no diagnosis or prescription for you, but we can talk about it.
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I do have a diagnosis.
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So that s, I have unspecified panic attack disorder.
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They couldn t figure out what was wrong with me, really.
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So I ve just been on the same meds for like 10 years.
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So this is, I guess, I was in the music class.
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I had music choir every day of the week.
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And this was at the time when I started to find out about sex and started sexualizing people, basically.
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When I was around 10 years old, I watched porn and I had a panic attack.
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And I told my parents right away, I couldn t keep anything from my parents because I was afraid.
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That s actually what I m doing right now, too.
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I m practicing keeping secrets from my parents.
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So hopefully my mom does not listen to this, which I don t think she will.
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Okay, hold on.
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I have several questions.
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So when you were 10, you started watching porn, and the porn gave you a panic attack?
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Yes, because I knew that it was wrong.
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Like you knew that in your brain the sex was wrong, or you watching it was wrong?
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No, so my dad used to have these restrictions on our computers.
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He said like he locked certain websites or certain keywords and he also set like timers.
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But I bypassed this by using my mom s computer.
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Because I think it started off, I went on YouTube and searched boobs and there s this video of this waitress.
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Have you seen the video of the waitress?
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Waitress walking around and serving beer and when she like
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puts down the beer, the key, which is hiding behind the plate with the beer, basically.
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So you see a loop.
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Then I went on, I think there was this magazine called Cats, and I think I went on their website and saw this porn video, and I still remember it very well.
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And sometimes I m even like, I want to go back and see it, but just to kind of like help.
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I don t even know if it would help me to heal my inner self, but it would be kind of fun to find it again, that video.
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So I was thinking a lot about sex, basically, and I was 10 years old, I didn t know
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what the hell was going on.
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And so I have this male teacher, this choir teacher who in class, I couldn t stop looking at his penis.
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Like I couldn t stop thinking, oh, he has a penis.
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Oh, my accent popped out.
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Sorry.
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He has a penis under those pants.
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And I started getting panic attacks.
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And my mom, I have to tell my mom, and I couldn t go to school for a year because
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I was scared to think about the fact that he had a penis.
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What did your- and when you- Oh no I m here.
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Oh sorry.
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You thought I was dipped out.
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Yeah.
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So when you told your mom, did you tell your mom that you were having panic attacks because you were simply perceiving the idea that your teacher had a penis?
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Yeah.
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What did she say?
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Thankfully, she s a doctor, so I guess she had a lot of understanding for my panic attacks, and then she was mostly like, okay, then you don t have to go to music.
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Like, you don t have to go to choir anymore.
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But then, wouldn t like any person you see, you would just perceive that they have a penis or a vagina?
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Like, why was it that guy specifically?
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I think because in Sweden, up to sixth grade, you have the same teacher for all of the subjects, so I only met this.
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I only had, he was my only, the only adult in my life, like the male, except for my dad, but I didn t, I don t think I had that problem with my dad.
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But he was the only male teacher figure that I had in my life.
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And he was intimidating too.
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So, I don t know.
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You know, you re actually you re making me think when I was
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Don t know man.
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I m gonna go ahead.
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I m gonna say I m gonna say 10 or 11 to I was also looking at searching boobs on YouTube and Dude I remember I remember I am Yeah, I was like 10 and like I liked looking at boobs.
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I like looking at boobs vaginas freaked me out but and so sometimes like I would be like looking on a
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This is a throw.
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I bet there s got to be one dude listening to this podcast who knows what I m talking about.
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But there was this like glamour magazine called Nuts Magazine.
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It was like a British glamour magazine with all these like British models in it.
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And they were like topless models.
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And I would like that a lot.
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That might have been like a Swedish version of what I saw.
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Also like four letters.
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It was four letter naked models.
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Yeah.
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Maybe.
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And, um, or like page three or something like that.
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But then like I started like, and anytime a vagina would pop up, I would like put my hand over the, um, over, over the screen.
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Cause I, something about the vagina freaked me out.
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Um, but then I like, I started seeing a lot of like vaginas on the internet and some of them were like, like they were like red or something.
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I don t know.
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I just kept thinking like, oh, there s like this red slit and it like, it freaked me out.
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And I remember I had a dream once where I couldn t sleep because I was scared of vaginas.
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I was like 11 maybe.
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And I woke my parents up and I didn t know what to say.
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I just couldn t sleep.
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I don t know what to say.
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I couldn t just be like, I m afraid of vaginas.
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So I woke them up and I said, um, I said, uh, I fucking said, I said, I ve been having a lot of adult dreams.
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They were kind of like, what the fuck does that mean?
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So did you explain or did you kind of walk around it?
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I think they were, I just kind of walked around it because I couldn t tell them that I was looking all that stuff up.
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They almost, they definitely, actually no I don t think they knew because I used to be really big on like making sure I cleared the history and cookies and all that stuff.
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You know that s one of the things, that s one of the things, one of the things
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that uh i appreciate about being an adult is that um you know i don t i don t clear the history on my i i watch yeah loads of porn well i know i just i watch loads of porn on my macbook and if some and i don t clear the history after after i m done you don t even go incognito
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No, cuz like what it s I m I m an adult, you know, I have my own computer I I can I can make the adult Decision to look at porn and nobody can show Yeah, except for your service like ISP I guess internet service provider if they see that you are
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Or if they can block up something like that.
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I don t know how it works.
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I just know that I m going- Dude, ISPs make so- Hey, they would never do that.
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ISPs make a shit ton of money off of porn.
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They re probably making more money off of porn than the people who make the porn.
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Sad reality of ISP truth.
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Um, alright, so- I just feel like Incognito is the best.
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So... Okay, I have a question, and you can talk about this or not talk about this if you want to, but like...
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Has any of this shit like, like the fact that porn used to give you panic attacks and stuff, like has any of this stuff informed your attitudes towards sex and stuff, like as an adult?
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Um, I m not fully understanding the question, but I know that nowadays
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I think after some time, I got used to watching porn.
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I realized that it wasn t an issue.
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It wasn t something that was wrong.
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But now I ve kind of just gotten dependent on porn.
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You ve become dependent on porn.
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Yeah.
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I feel like I can t come without watching porn.
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I can t get anything from my imagination.
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I ve kind of gotten too used to it, I guess.
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You know, I ve talked, I will say this is interesting.
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You re the first female porn addict I ve talked to on this show that I know of.
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I ve talked to a lot of dudes about porn addiction.
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When you say that, I want to say that I m not a porn addict, but I guess like, because I can t, I can t finish without watching porn.
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That s the problem.
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So I didn t mean to call you, I didn t mean to call you a porn addict, but you did say you were dependent on porn.
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Yeah.
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I don t feel, I don t,
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Like, masturbate too much.
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I masturbate like once or twice a week.
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Which is, I don t know how normal that is for a girl, but when I do, I know that I can t finish without watching porn.
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I can t do that in my head.
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I don t know, I don t know, I don t know, I don t know how, uh... What is typical for a girl either, but once or twice a week s not that fucking bad.
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Has it, has it affected your sex life at all?
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Um...
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Yes.
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Sorry, I m laughing because I m just thinking of the repercussions of talking about this, but I also don t think anyone I know will listen to this.
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You don t have to talk about it if you don t want to.
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No, I want to because I know that there s a lot of other girls like me, and I don t know if this is porn related, but in my sex life, I ve never been able to finish at all, I think.
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And I don t know if it s because
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I m not watching porn.
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I ve never tried watching porn during intercourse.
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It feels disrespectful.
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But I just feel stressed.
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A lot of problems that I come across are that men usually take pride and really want to make the girl finish.
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And that just stresses me out even more.
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Because I know I m not going to be able to do it.
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If you understand what I mean.
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I feel like that s a problem.
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That s a relatable thing with both.
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genders like if you probably I think it is because like if you if you re a guy and you just know that you like can t like you can only come under like specific circumstances and you re with a girl and she s really trying to get you to come because then that s it s stressful it s stressful for you because in your mind you re like yeah this person s gonna think like I don t like them this person s gonna like you know be like I don t like like I
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Yeah.
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I think I don t like them or like be upset with me that I, you know, they, cause they, they want to be the one to do it, you know?
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And I guess, is that, is that, is that similar pressure that you re thinking about?
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Definitely.
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Um, and I m going to be honest, I am, I ve been like up until you ve said it.
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Cause I don t think I ve ever spoken to this about men.
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I ve spoken to this about this with girls, but I ve really mostly had prejudice that men always or barely ever have
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Not barely, but I do hear a lot about men having trouble cumming, but it s much easier for them.
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Here s the thing.
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Well, I don t know, because I ve never had a vagina and tried to make it cum, so I only know one side of that.
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Okay, okay.
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Maybe my own vagina.
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Oh, okay, okay, okay.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Oh, okay.
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Now I understand what you mean.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay, I m sorry.
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I m tired.
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Yes, makes me.
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Yeah, all these everything you re talking about seems like fairly normal.
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I think I don t know.
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I m not the sex therapist.
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No, you re not a therapist at all.
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That is true.
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But actually, I wanted to say one thing before I go or
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If I get the chance to, because you spoke earlier in the stream about not being sure where this is going to go.
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But I wanted to actually take the time to thank you for being here for people a couple of times a week and letting people call in and talk.
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Because I think a lot of people, me included, even though I was nervous, just want to talk about myself or talk to someone about something.
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Thanks, man.
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I appreciate I appreciate that.
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And just to give context to the people listening on the podcast, I earlier in the stream, I was just like, kind of reminded, just talking about, like, you know, I want I don t know how long, like, my career doing this will last.
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I want it to last.
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for, uh, I mean, I ll keep, oh, this is a, it s a great job to be able to do this.
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So I want it to last for a while.
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So, um, you know, thanks.
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SPEAKER_01
Thanks.
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Thanks for listening and for, um, sharing your story so that those who enjoyed it can, uh, rate the podcast five stars and subscribe to get notified when there s new episodes.
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Woo.
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X 39 gang.
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I m trying to think of anything.
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Did we solve any issues?
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What all did we even talk about?
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We did solve my fear of calling in, calling into the show.
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Oh, I have a question.
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Here s a question.
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Now that we re on the conversation along, because I feel like I don t have good enough things to say.
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This will, this, this kind of ties in a lot of the stuff that we ve been talking about.
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Do you think sexual attitudes in general and whatever I interpret this question, however you will, do you think sexual attitudes differ significantly or in any way at all between, uh, Europe slash Sweden and the United States?
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Since I consume a lot of American media, I do hear more about what American people think about women and how they see sex.
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And also, I guess my experience with Swedish men compared to American men, which would be that as far as I understand, I still feel like
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American men don t put in as much effort to please a woman, but that is, I think that s really just based on how, um, I, how these, all these Americans go on these podcasts, these red pill podcasts and talk about women.
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And, um, I do see a difference in how women are objectified here in America, especially in New York, where.
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as you probably experienced too as a man but you if you re a man or if you re an ugly woman you have to pay for a table at a club to get in while if you re pretty up to their standards if you re dressed if you re wearing heels you can get in for free and just like having to be able to having to walk around knowing that before I go out having to
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stress and having to worry about how I look is something that is very different, but I wouldn t.
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experience at home To the question like mm-hmm do you I mean do you like when you like get dressed up and stuff and and like go out and you know whatever you re putting on makeup and and You know trying to try to wear clothes that you like like or clothes that you think would be attractive How much of that?
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is just you personally just enjoy dressing up and going out and just use of your own fulfillment versus like some desire for external validation or fear of rejection.
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Ooh, I hope I don t speak for other women because I feel that this conversation easily goes to like, Oh, women dress up for other people.
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I know.
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I m just asking you personally.
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Oh, yeah, I know.
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But I I love dressing up and looking hot.
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Like I love dressing up looking nice.
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I feel like I do it for the enjoyment of myself.
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I do love validation, but I don t feel like I get it.
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I don t feel like I get more validation when I m out versus walking just like regularly.
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Uh, it s more that I guess that I m seeking attention when I, uh, go out to drink, for example, cause that s like, that s the chance I get to maybe meet a guy.
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I m not looking to meet someone when I m, when I m out walking to Trader Joe s, for example.
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Um, but I, the place or the, the.
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The place where I feel like I need to put on a show, and this is very specific, but it s like shoe or top is fine.
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When I m in the States, I feel like I have to be someone else.
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I have to put on different shoes.
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I d rather just go out in sneakers.
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I have to put on like heels and maybe nicer dress pants.
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Um, and that s what I feel like I m, I m doing it for other people.
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And, and that s mostly if I want to get in anywhere, get in somewhere, there is a dress code.
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Um, but usually I just dress for myself.
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I go to a school where people like to dress up and I, I, I just put on whatever it would like to, I guess.
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Hmm.
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It s interesting because I ve been running around talking to people in like Europe and a little bit of Japan and shit like that.
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And I ve heard a lot of people say that they feel in America more free to be themselves than in their home country.
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But I guess everybody has a different point of view on that.
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Do you not feel that way?
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I feel like in America or in New York specifically, there are some parts where I m more and less comfortable.
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I am, for example, the other day I wanted, it s super hot and humid, so I wanted to walk out in a bandeau top and like a strapless top and the first thing that happened was that I got catcalled and I was just like super uncomfortable and felt very sad about not being able to just walk out in
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a top that would ensure that I wouldn t be as hot as humanly possible and that s something that I would never face in Sweden, I know that but I know also here that I can maybe experiment more with my clothing so that feels nicer but I do feel I guess in this city that I am in, there s a lot of pressure to look good
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which I don t feel at home.
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I don t feel like anyone cares about what I look like at home.
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So Joanna, what is your dream in life?
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What does the future look like for you?
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My dream is to be happy forever, to have money to travel and to not be too stressed in life and to not have bad metabolism like I do right now.
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Can you make all of my wishes come true?
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I was gonna ask the chat.
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I ve been doing I ve been enjoying doing this lately I want to see if the chat has any questions for you Joanna before we go I ll ask you I ll ask you this one while we get some questions going from the chat What I mean, what s what s making you happy right now?
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And what s stressing you out right now?
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Hmm
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I m happy to be back in the city.
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I m happy to experience or hang out with friends.
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I m stressed about being alone.
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It s quite lonely in this big city.
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And I m stressed about what I m going to do when I m finished with my studies because I don t want to leave New York, I think.
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I think I want to stay here.
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Do you have friends in the city at all?
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Are you making friends at least?
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I am making friends, yes, but it s tougher than I thought it would be because I study with people who are four years younger than me, which is quite an age gap in maturity level.
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Yeah, I ve had a hard time.
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I ve been usually been, I ve always been good at making friends.
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So like having a hard time doing it, it s been extra tough, but I have
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The thing that s helped is actually finding some Swedish people, some Swedish friends here.
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UsedXV in the chat says, Do you have any regrets?
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About what?
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About anything?
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Oh, going to America.
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Oh.
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I.
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I do have some regrets about not coming here earlier.
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I wanted to come here four years ago, but I was dating this guy and we decided to go and study or to stay in Sweden and study instead because he didn t want to go here.
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I guess that s it.
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But I do think I needed the maturing that I had back home in Sweden too.
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I just wish I had more student funds to stay here.
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Um, Kinterview says, how would you prefer for men to approach you if they were going to approach you to get your attention in some way?
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Oh, oh, actually, hmm.
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I think I just prefer, hmm, I guess maybe
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And this is a really weird thing to say, but it really depends on what the person looks like.
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If I would feel comfortable or uncomfortable.
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You know what?
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You know what, you know what, people, people, um, people, uh, uh, I, I know that upsets people, that whole idea of like, um, you know, you can get away with more if you re attractive.
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I know that upsets people, but it s the way it s, it s the way of life.
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And I think both.
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I think both men and women have some of that.
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I don t even think that s a gender thing.
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No, and I wouldn t hold it against you.
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So, I mean, everyone finds like Hassan Piker attractive, but I do also find like someone who might be conventionally attractive, attractive too.
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Somebody asked, do you feel safer in America or in Sweden?
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I feel way safer in
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Sweden, but I can carry pepper spray here, which kind of like makes me feel more safe here than I would without pepper spray.
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But I do feel more safe in Sweden.
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Oh, we have one last question.
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Meg Kel says, how do you deal with any unwanted attention from men?
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I think I usually this doesn t happen that often either.
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I just want to
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practice that I m not an expert at this.
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But I when it s happened, I think I ve just like walked away.
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Usually that work.
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Walked away or said no, thank you.
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Or the classic is I have a boyfriend or have you ever had to use that pepper spray?
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No, I did accidentally spray it on my finger and then I touched my eye with my other finger but it and I still got pepper spray in my eye.
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That s I used on myself.
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This isn t a question, but the mage system 666 in the chat says not gonna lie I ll let ugly slash old guys cat call me and I just give them a confident.
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Thank you, and it makes their day Okay, good for them.
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Shout out to them Yeah, I usually wear my headphones on also to like avoid hearing if anyone says anything to me, which is a dumb thing
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Everyone says to me to not wear my headphones around the city, but I walk around with my noise canceling headphones and nothing s happened to me yet.
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Well, anyway, Joanna, is there anything else you want to say to me or to God or to the people of the computer, the people?
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You remembered my name.
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SPEAKER_00
That s crazy.
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I didn t remember your name.
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Joanne.
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SPEAKER_00
That s crazy.
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I usually don t remember names.
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Well, I was looking at the chat a lot.
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They said your name.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_00
I m sorry.
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SPEAKER_00
I m sorry.
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You don t have to apologize for anything.
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What s up?
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Tell me what you want to say.
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SPEAKER_00
Go Tigers.
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What are the, who are the Tigers?
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SPEAKER_00
It s just a mask up for my school.
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I m just saying go Tigers.
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Rock and roll.
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Joanna, Ghek bless you.
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Thanks for calling and stay, stay green.
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Okay, thank you.
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Ah, she did an impression of the Colin sound.
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That s cool.
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Shout out to Joanna for talking about her life.
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Yeah, I only went to Sweden.
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I went to Sweden on this past tour this year and I was only there for like a day, but it was fine.
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You know what I ve learned from traveling all over the place?
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And I will say,
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I ve only been, I haven t been to anywhere that feels like super fringe to me, but like, you know, a lot of places, I mean, most of the most, a lot of places I ve been to are like, you know, primarily English speaking, uh, whatever British colony type place things.
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But a lot of places are kind of the same.
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The gist of life exists everywhere.
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There are people.
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Those people walk around and talk to each other and eat food.
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That s the gist.
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That s everywhere.
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And thank goodness for that universal life experience.
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I don t know if that was a stupid thing to say.
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All right.
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Thanks again, Joanna.
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Call from beautiful Billy.
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Hello.
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Hey, what s up?
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Hey, Billy, what s going on?
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How s life?
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SPEAKER_02
Feeling pretty good.
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SPEAKER_01
I just released an album today and you re actually on one of the tracks.
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I m on one of the tracks.
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SPEAKER_02
How much am I getting?
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SPEAKER_02
You re on.
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SPEAKER_02
How many cookies are you sending?
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SPEAKER_02
No, I m just kidding.
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SPEAKER_02
What s the- I think at least a fraction of two pennies.
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SPEAKER_02
I ll take it!
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SPEAKER_02
What s the track?
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Play it for us.
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SPEAKER_01
I can t really play it right now.
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I d probably sound pretty bad over the phone.
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But the track is called Already Perfect.
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The album is called Lobster.
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Track is Already Perfect.
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I think it s like four tracks in.
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Okay.
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In what way am I on the track?
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So it s like an A section.
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going back into another A section as a small little break and like you do like a small little interlude like saying that like everything s already perfect it s really cool like a small like little um can you play it can you play it can you play it through the phone sure let me actually just pull that up somebody in your chat already said it s really awesome let s mute this get this here
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Oh wait, that actually sounds like it would sound good if it wasn t for the phone.
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Yeah, it s all like live drums, synthesizers.
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Alright, keep going, keep going.
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SPEAKER_02
Alright, you can stop playing it.
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SPEAKER_02
That actually sounds even shittier.
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That sounds pretty shitty.
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SPEAKER_02
Not... Like, the song sounds good.
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SPEAKER_02
The song sounds good, but the... I wanna play it.
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SPEAKER_02
Let me... It s really awesome.
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Alright, you know what?
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Fuck it.
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Let me... Here s... I ll... I ll... Let s... I ll pull it up.
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Let me see if I can pull it up.
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Yeah, I was creating it a few months back, and... I was, like, making this song, and you were saying exactly that transition I put you in.
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It just lined up so perfectly.
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I had to go back to the VOD after the end of the stream and then take it out and then put it into the track.
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It works so perfectly.
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I think it says it has literally no views.
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It just came out this morning.
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All right.
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Okay, it s pretty cool.
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I like this.
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You asked me how I would feel if everything was perfect.
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I truly believe, I actually believe really in my gut that everything right now, in this moment as it is, is already perfect.
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It s already perfect.
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And my biggest, my problem,
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does not lie in I need to change and shift external circumstances to make things even more perfect.
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My problem lies eternally in my own perspective of being able to constantly, consistently see those perfect things for what they are.
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That s kind of cool.
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You kind of made me sound like Alan Watts.
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Very philosophical.
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That was awesome, man.
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Claps, claps, claps, claps, claps, claps.
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One of your past guests like really inspired me and helped me like create those live drums and everything.
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And all that was recorded in my bedroom with real drums, real synthesizers, the whole thing.
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Oh, yeah.
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Who was the guest?
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Kenny Deep.
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Can it be it s rock and roll rock and roll um yeah, I just want to see you I just gotta say something to you I m saying this because I like you you keep saying you keep using a lot of musical terms while I m on the phone with you and I
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I don t understand any of them like when you say live drums I m like I just I know what a drum I know what drums are I know what a guitar is and I know that if you press buttons on a keyboard it can make sounds and you can use those sounds to make music but I don t know what a loop is I mean I guess I know what a loop is but
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Anyway, who cares about me?
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Yeah, that was cool.
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It may I was I was listening to it.
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And I m like, Oh, you know, if I actually I think I rambled for a little bit too long in my phone, I was saying, but
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it it was cool i was like you know what i was listening to it and i was like you know what lyle s right dude he s right he really uh that really makes perfect sense what he just said um and it s funny because you could actually you know i m realizing you could actually you could put music under any person talking and it would make them sound a lot smarter yep i m gonna use that it s crazy like that and then like
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just like trying to like record stuff like yourself like doing like vocals or anything like that it s so hard to come by but like you literally just hear someone talking in a video game chat like saying like maybe like just some weird stuff off the wall like whoa that sounds so cool why didn t i think of that yeah if you put like a 13 year old kid talking about how he fucked your mom over that track over a sound beat yeah he would sound like a genius millions
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Um, that s cool.
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Who are you, who are your artists, who inspires you artistically besides just Mr. Kenny?
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Kenny Beats has been a big inspiration, but just like getting my hands on like actual gear and just messing around with it.
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Like I ve never really learned a song.
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I never learned musical theory.
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I just make things that sound cool to my ear and that like, like make my, I don t know, make my head feel good.
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Well, I want to say this for somebody who s never studied musical theory, I m very impressed that you know what live drums are.
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They re really fun.
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It s really hard to like mess up.
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playing drums, because when you re playing an actual drum set, you can feel the wonkiness of it immediately.
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It s so responsive if you re doing something bad or good.
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I m kind of in the music industry a little bit.
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I do concert photography.
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I ve got hundreds and hundreds of shows.
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Just seeing these people up on stage doing this simple thing, like, hey, I could do that.
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Bought a guitar, and five years later, now here s that.
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That s awesome, man.
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What s your dream?
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Are you hoping to go pro?
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It would be ideal.
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It would be really cool to be able to like make a living off of something creative, but that s not my main goal.
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My main goal is just to create for myself.
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And if I put it on the world and make other people happy, that makes me happy.
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I don t want to make money off of it.
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I just want to create something.
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What are you doing now?
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Like a day job?
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Yeah.
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I work at a small internet service provider, a really small town.
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I just make sure old people s internet s up and running.
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I assist people that are 90 years old, like, I can t talk to my grandson.
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Why can t I do this?
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And then I patiently wait on the phone for 30 minutes, walking through how to open a web browser.
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I support it.
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Like, oh, you re so sweet.
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You remind me of my grandson.
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And then the next day, they ll bring in cookies.
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That s sweet.
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It s a really really small town you probably those people are probably also come to you With a lot of like spam emails that they ve accidentally clicked on that.
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Oh, yeah, we ve viruses We ve had some pretty interesting characters bring in like their Computers we have a sweet little old lady to come in like she had a virus on her machine She s like I don t know how I got it like does anyone else using me your machine or anything like that like she s like no It s just me
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I look into the computer history, she s going like, every single day, 7.30am, every single day, I swear.
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Hardcore tentacle porn.
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She is?
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Like, her, her?
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Yeah.
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Not like some fucking kid is using her computer?
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No one else was on her machine, there s no remote software, 7.30, like a ritual, this old lady, super sweet, was looking at hardcore, anti-tentacle porn.
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I want that to be a message to everyone.
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Because this is life, bro.
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You have an idea of a type of person in your head, and it s never actually them.
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It s a stereotype.
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history is you have person in your head the idea of who s watching tentacle hentai porn and it s not who you would think it s probably your grandma yeah it s Dolores
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Mmm.
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That s inspiring.
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That s an inspiring story about an old lady watching.
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I m very happy that you showed that to me Dude, I like I like this music.
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This is cool.
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It s tough.
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I would I would listen to I used to be really What is it trap?
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Trapping in heaven like lo-fi trapping in heaven is ID No, I m not familiar
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Uh, trapping in heaven is, uh, it s like some fucking YouTube thing I used to listen to.
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Do they play, play like a compilation, a bunch of like chill trap songs?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Very similar to what, what you just played.
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Um.
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Nice.
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Dude, tell, before we go, what, tell, uh, tell everyone where they can find you at again.
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So everyone can find me out, uh, like any major streaming platform, Spotify, Apple music, all the big ones.
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Beautiful Billy just released an album today lobster.
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You can hear Lyle on it on already perfect This was a good plug.
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I appreciate I this is a smart way to Promote the music that was it was good.
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I was good.
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I mean that stuff I honestly really just wanted to talk to you to make sure that you d be cool with it I figured that you d be pretty chill
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And you re not going to sue me and take it off of Spotify.
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It would be very funny though if I- For your two cents.
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If you left this phone call- It would be hilarious.
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If you left this phone call thinking I was cool with it and then I sent you a C and D. Oh shit.
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I should have called.
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Uh, this is not beautiful Bailey, I swear.
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Nah, you re fine.
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Um, well, thanks for calling.
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Is Matt- Dude, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Uh, keep on rocking in the free world.
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Doot little doot doot.
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Doot doot.
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Um, cool.
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Little, little narwhal in there.
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Nailed it.
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Billy, have a good night, man.
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Thank you.
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I m going to check out the rest of the sound.
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I appreciate it.
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Have a good night.
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That was really cool.
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It really, it really is true that the music makes you sound smarter than you actually are.
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Um, you can probably use that to your advantage somehow.
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I mean, actually, actually, I m using that to my advantage right now.
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I put music under this podcast to make the things that people say sound more intelligent.
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And you didn t even notice.
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Therapy Cat goes on the line.
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Taking your phone calls every night.
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Therapy Cat goes doing his right.
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Teaching you how to live your life.
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But he s not really an expert.