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My name is Lee Hawkins.
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I ve been a journalist for over 25 years.
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On my new podcast, What Happened in Alabama, I get answers to some of the hardest questions about how things came to be for many black Americans and the truth that must come before any reconciliation can happen.
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I investigate my family history, my upbringing in Minnesota, and my father s painful nightmares about growing up in Alabama.
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What Happened in Alabama is a new series confronting the cycles of trauma for myself, my family, and for many Black Americans.
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Listen now.
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Hey Danas and Beckys, I m so glad some of you had a chance to catch my recent live virtual Don t Ask Tig show with two of the funniest comedians I know, my good friends Fortune Feimster and Mae Martin.
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We had such a good time answering questions and dispensing all kinds of advice that I wanted to make sure all of you got to share in the fun.
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So today s episode is an edited version of the live event, and I m still on the road if you want to see me live and in person.
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I ll be in Colorado Springs September 25th, Breckenridge September 28th, and then I will be touring Europe in October.
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So go to my website to get all the city and ticket and show information.
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Then I will be back in the States
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in La Crosse, Wisconsin, October 28th, and then Brooklyn, New York, November 4th, King s Theater, taping my next stand-up special live.
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Come check it out.
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Go to TigNotaro.com to get all tickets and show information.
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Hope you enjoy the show.
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I was just in New York and I was lining up right when it opened to go to the Natural History Museum, and there was a guy whose job it was to organize the lines going in, and this guy loved his job.
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This is my impersonation of him.
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He was going, shift over, shift over, shift over, shift over, approach, approach, approach, like that.
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He was just repeating shift over, shift over, shift over, approach.
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I said to the security guard, I went, that guy s crazy.
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And he goes, oh yeah, he went viral on TikTok.
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So maybe he s now leaning into it.
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He s like, I know what the people want.
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Yeah, I m going to give them what they want.
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That s so funny.
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This is Don t Ask Tig, I m Tig Notaro, and don t ask me how I got so handsome.
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I am joined this evening by two extraordinarily talented, I don t know where this accent came from, but let s go with it, talented standup comedians, writers, and actors.
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One of my guest stars in the
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hit Netflix show FUBAR.
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Her second Netflix special is titled Good Fortune, and just a few of her many credits include The Mindy Project, Chelsea Lately, NBC s Kenan, and Champions.
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Also joining me is the star of their own award-winning Netflix series entitled Feel Good,
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SAP is the title of their latest Netflix special, and you can also see them on HBO s The Flight Attendant.
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Fortune Feimster and Mae Martin, welcome to Don t Ask Tig.
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What s up?
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Hi, guys.
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Thank you for having us.
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What a pleasure.
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Yeah.
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What a pleasure.
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What a pleasure.
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What a pleasure.
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What a pleasure.
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Their abbreviations.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I ve never said pledge.
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It feels good to say.
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It does feel good to say, and I m going to drop it with Stephanie.
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I was going to say when she s least expecting it, but I don t think- She s ever expecting it.
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I don t think she is at all, no.
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My favorite abbreviation that I ever came up with was
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when you casually mention something, it s called a cash mensch.
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This is why May is so crucial in our lives, Fortune.
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That s right.
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And for those in the audience that may not have heard yet, May, Fortune, and I co-host a new podcast, and it s called Handsome, for obvious reasons.
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I mean, come on now.
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Well, you know, and I was out with my aunt and uncle the other night and I was, was it them or was it my therapist?
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Who cares?
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But I was talking about the name handsome and I was saying it feels very fluid in that men are handsome.
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You can say, oh, that s a handsome woman.
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You can say this.
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handsome horses.
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May always remembering the handsome horses out there.
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There s handsome suits.
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There s handsome architecture.
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I mean, come on.
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It s also a vibe.
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You can feel handsome.
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That s right.
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I can t believe I haven t said this yet, but I think that the word handsome comes from when they would measure horses, they d say, how many hands is it?
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and why are you laughing it s true we ve learned fortune may loves a factor too yeah may often tells facts we cannot verify if these facts are accurate and we refuse to verify we re not going to look them up and not why would we confident we re too handsome to spend time
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verifying May-Martin facts.
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That s not our job.
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You Google it.
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Yeah, you Google it.
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That should be my tagline.
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After every fact, I go, you Google it.
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If and when you get a car, May, you can get a bumper sticker that says you Google it and then put May-Martin at the bottom.
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Now I m going to open up this question to both of you.
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We re going to dive in here now.
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May and Fortune,
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Is there any advice that you need right now that we can brainstorm about together?
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Oh, one of my questions is about, I had this crystal given to me, and I don t get really attached to crystals, but as soon as I held this one, I was like, whoa, there s something about it.
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And I can t find the crystal.
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And so I m wondering if an appropriate solution, because I really feel untethered without it.
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I have a photograph of it.
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Should I get a tattoo of the crystal?
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What do you guys think about that?
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Well, that was a real job.
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Where would the tattoo go?
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Would it go on your nose or?
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I was thinking.
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No, no face.
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Don t do a face tattoo.
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No.
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Fortune, stay out of this.
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Tig, do not do this to me.
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Listen, this show is called Don t Ask Tig.
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I know.
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So I feel like May would do it because- Well, the problem is, number one, I get things that I like.
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I m like, oh, I guess I got to get a tattoo of it just because I like the thing.
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And then number two, I get them to impress people.
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So the fact that you ve suggested that is danger territory for me.
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To commit to that bit, would that be really fun?
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To show up one day and be like, Tig, you said to do it.
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Yes, that would be worth the joke.
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Now, I m assuming you like me and Fortune.
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So what are the odds you d get tattoos of our faces on your back?
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On my face?
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Oh, one on each cheek?
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I have a big face though.
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Oh my god, your smiling face is on each of my cheeks.
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Or what if you got Fortune s face tattooed on your face?
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Is that possible?
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Don t do that to yourself.
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And then where is yours?
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I shave my head and I get it on the back of my head.
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You shave your head, you get the tattoo of the back of my head on the back of your head.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Do you know what I just remembered?
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What?
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That people paid to listen to us.
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That s true.
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Should we entertain them more?
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Yes, okay.
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So moving, well, wait, Fortune, do you need advice on anything?
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People on the road have been giving me T-shirts and I come home and Jax is like, if you re going to put these T-shirts in your closet, you have to now start eliminating old T-shirts.
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How do you know when it s time to go, those old ones?
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I feel like for you, the way you know is to check with Jax.
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She s like, God, no.
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Yeah, you put out all of your terrible, ugly T-shirts.
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You do a fashion show.
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Do a little runway of each one and then Jax maybe gives a score.
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All right, so moving on.
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When either of you go to someone for advice, who is that?
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Do you know Sabrina Jalees, the comedian?
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She just does life very well.
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I go to her a lot for a lot of different things and then not so much my parents.
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I just want my parents to think that I m acing life.
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I would never be like, oh, I m kind of depressed because they d be like, oh, God, well, why?
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Yeah.
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Well, they did buy tickets to this show.
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Oh, great.
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Oh, excellent.
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Yeah.
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What about you, Fortune?
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It s funny because my mom is the source of frustration at times.
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She s that person that I ve had to learn to set boundaries with to an extent.
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But then she s also that person who I do like to call and get
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advice from.
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I ll definitely talk about things with her and, you know, it is nice to have that.
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Queer stuff, I m always running by Jax.
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We re very much a team.
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I thought you said at first queer stuff, but both make sense.
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Queer and career.
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I need my queer advice from a wife.
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You re like, I need a gayer shirt to wear.
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Well, I realize, you know, when you re married, I can t just make these decisions on my own because they ultimately will affect her in one way or another.
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I feel like I mainly go to Stephanie and actually our producer, Thomas.
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I bounce a lot of stuff off of him.
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Totally.
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one of the smartest, most reasonable people I know.
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And yeah, I have one of my childhood friends, she s a therapist.
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I feel really lucky to have those people to just kind of go, what do you think?
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And what about the best advice that you ve ever been given?
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Um, I had a therapist once tell me, do you want to be right?
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Or do you want to be happy?
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And I thought that was pretty solid advice.
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It was simple, but it was like, why am I digging my heels in on this?
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Does it really matter in the long run?
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Yeah.
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What about you, May?
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Two things are coming to mind.
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One thing is that when I did that sound bath in the desert recently, totally sober, tripped out.
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I ve never done a sound healing experience where they re just banging those gongs and I go in and lie down and they start doing it.
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And then this white light energy, I swear, look, maybe it came from
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within my consciousness, but it really felt like external.
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And it was so clearly saying to me, stop trying so hard.
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You don t have to be always pushing forward, just release some control.
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And then the only other career advice I got that I really liked was a comedian, Mark McKinney from Kids in the Hall, the Canadian sketch troupe.
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He said,
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For stage fright, before you go on stage, pretend you re going out for your encore.
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Just tell your brain, I already crushed it.
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And the audience is clapping and cheering because they re like, we want more, we want more.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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And you go out like, God, they re desperate for me.
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And then it really works.
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I mean, it takes some imagining, but it works.
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I love that.
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That s nice.
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Yeah, I m gonna give that a whirl.
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I always repeat this, but it s something that I I read once and I tweaked it a little bit to make sense to everyone.
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But I have always loved this so much.
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The greatest gift you can give anyone is a well lived life of your own.
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And I love that because it frees everybody.
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Nobody worries about you.
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And everyone can just
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Be at peace.
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There you go.
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Peace.
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Yeah.
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I like that a lot.
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So may and fortune, I ve asked you here for a very specific reason and that s to help me.
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It s an intervention.
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No, uh, the reason is I need help advising my listeners.
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Are you ready?
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Yeah.
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We love a listener.
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All right, first up is a quandary involving communication and kids.
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Viola writes, I am a part of a close-knit family.
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Once a month, my parents and I visit with my uncle, aunt, their 12-year-old son, and eight-year-old daughter.
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I m 25.
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As the youngest in my family, I didn t have any experience with children until my uncle moved to my town a couple of years ago.
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And generally, I always talk to children like adults.
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I can tell my aunt doesn t like this.
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I don t curse when I talk to them.
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However, I talk to my cousin like she is in my age range.
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I know she loves this because she always runs to me when we visit and tells me I m her favorite.
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A few weeks ago, my aunt took me aside and asked me to talk to my little cousin like she was eight.
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I was a bit taken aback as I thought everyone could see we had a great relationship.
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I just said, sure.
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What should I do?
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That s interesting.
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That is interesting.
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I have a lot of questions.
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I m just trying to picture like how she talks to the eight year old.
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Is she like, have you started your 401k?
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Yeah.
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Let s role play it.
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Like, what are your plans to move out?
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Yeah.
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Like, okay, I ll be the eight-year-old, Fortune, you d be Viola.
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What am I doing?
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Just hosting a podcast?
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You re the aunt, I guess.
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No, okay, I m the aunt that tells you... Wait, and I m who?
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You know, the roleplay was a weird idea.
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This isn t working.
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So...
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Who am I?
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Yeah, I feel like I talk to my kids like they re adults, but I certainly dip into those moments.
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I call them my little cubs.
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But in general, I m like, hey, guys, get your backpacks or don t forget your water bottles or you know what I mean?
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I don t know if this aunt is wanting like,
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Where s your backpack?
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I don t know.
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That s what s hard to picture.
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Yeah.
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I m not a level of adult talk.
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Yeah.
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They re like, so are you Polly or what?
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It sounds to me like the kid has repeated to the aunt something that the cousin said, or the aunt overheard something specific that seemed out of the age range, like inappropriate in some way, about mortality or something, or being negative, or I don t know.
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So it seems like there s something specific at the root of this, because otherwise they have a great relationship.
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Yeah, I guess if it s something where you ve where you re if you reflect on what you re saying may and realize, oh, maybe I shouldn t talk about death and burial plots with a government conspiracy.
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Yeah.
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Like I don t think she necessarily has to like talk to the kid like a baby, but maybe like adjust what some of the subject matter is if it feels to adults.
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And also, it never hurts if, for some reason, it s affecting their relationship and things are weird, to maybe ask the mom for more clarification.
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Good point, Fortune.
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Like, what should I, how do you want me to, give me an example.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Is it the content or the tone of voice?
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There you go.
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Like, get more feedback.
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Yeah, don t ask fortune.
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Okay, well, Viola, we re talking to you like you re an adult here because you are.
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Best of luck.
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And yeah, if you re talking about weird heavy stuff, maybe shift that.
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Okay, Fortune, this next question comes from a resident of your home state.
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Whoa.
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Hey, Tigg.
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Hey, Fortune.
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Hey, Mae.
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My name s Maggie.
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I love you guys, and I could really use some advice.
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So I moved to North Carolina about seven years ago from California, and I love it here, but I can t understand the Carolina accent to save my life.
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How dare you?
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I do that thing where I don t hear them the first time, and maybe I ll get it.
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But if I don t then I just get super awkward like I ll start laughing in the middle of the conversation.
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It s not good for anybody.
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So you guys have any advice on just I don t know how to not offend people.
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if you don t understand them.
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I just, I love the South and I want to embrace my identity and I kind of feel like this is getting in the way of that a little bit.
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Cool, thanks guys.
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OK, well, to be honest, I couldn t understand a word Maggie said.
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No, you know, I actually felt like Maggie had a slight Southern accent.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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It definitely rubs off on people.
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Yeah.
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I ve lived in L.A.
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for 20 years and I still have this North Carolina accent.
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Nothing has rubbed off at you.
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It s weird to say this because mine is so thick, but it has gotten way better over the years.
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I see like old videos of me in high school and it s like, wow.
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Let s let s hear what did it kind of sound like?
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OK, well, first let me preface this by saying I did the morning announcements at school.
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So let s just pretend.
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So that was your first big break in entertainment.
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Yeah, that was.
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It all started, baby.
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So I would be like,
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Hey everybody, there s a chess meeting after school today, so if you want to get to the chess club, they re going to be meeting at Mr. Smith s class at 3.30.
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And did you have a bow in your hair and were you wearing a dress?
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like what was old fortune i m sorry i m talking so fast i hope everybody has a great day this is uh we re just signing off here doing the morning analysis y all take care now okay
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I love it.
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Wait, so I love that, is it Maggie?
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I love that she is just laughing in the middle of the conversation.
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Just laughing in their faces.
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I think she should find maybe like a TV show set there or Fortune s old home videos or something and watch them with subtitles.
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Similar to the blooper reel from high school.
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Yeah, she s got to practice up on her own at home just watching.
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Here s the hard part.
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People in North Carolina don t enunciate.
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No, I know.
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I can tell.
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Yeah, we noticed.
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We co-hosted a podcast with someone.
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What do you mean?
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I feel like everything is like the reason.
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Here s what Maggie should be saying to people if she does not understand why she just be like, can you I m sorry.
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Can you repeat that?
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All right.
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Maggie, if you can understand fortune, you can understand at least one person with a Carolina accent.
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I hope this advice helps you, Maggie.
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All right, we re moving on to the next question, and this is about dating.
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All right.
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Hi, Tig.
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I m a 35-year-old woman, and I ve only ever dated men.
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For many, many years now, I have found myself attracted to women.
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When I start dating a woman, at what point do I disclose that I ve never dated a woman before?
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I feel intimidated that no 30-something lesbian wants to be with someone who has zero experience dating women.
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Thanks so much, Tig.
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You re welcome.
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SPEAKER_05
I don t see that as a problem.
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Listen, that s my bread and butter.
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I think, actually, there s a huge market out there of people that would really enjoy, I think, being with someone.
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SPEAKER_05
Yeah, to show you the ropes.
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SPEAKER_05
I don t think it has to be like you re having to come out to these women, like a big disclosure that has a lot of weight to it.
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SPEAKER_05
I think it ll come up in conversation.
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SPEAKER_05
These days, things are so fluid.
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SPEAKER_05
You ll be talking about your
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It ll only be weird if you re making it as if it s so different to any dating experience that you ve had in the past.
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SPEAKER_04
I think that s true.
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SPEAKER_04
I feel like if you aren t withholding and you just keep it natural and flowing in a fluid way, I don t know.
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SPEAKER_04
I always feel like I don t care who you dated before me.
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SPEAKER_04
I don t care who you re with after me.
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SPEAKER_04
If I feel like I can tell that you like me,
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SPEAKER_05
Yeah, the only alarm bell there is like, oh, are you comfortable enough with yourself?
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SPEAKER_05
Are you going to be freaking out about this new experience?
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SPEAKER_05
So the one thing I would say is maybe process some of it with your friends, not with the queer person that you re dating, because it can sometimes be hard.
1
SPEAKER_05
you don t have to process it all with the person that you re dating.
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SPEAKER_04
But you can still stay in conversation with them of like, oh, totally.
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SPEAKER_05
Yeah.
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Or like, this is new.
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SPEAKER_05
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04
Yeah.
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This is new.
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I feel like more women are kind of getting to the point in their life, even later in life, being like, hey, why don t I give this a shot?
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SPEAKER_03
I think it s so common.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
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Especially later in life.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03
I feel like we ve all dated someone.
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We have all dated someone.
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But it didn t freak me out, I guess, is my point.
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SPEAKER_05
Yeah, we ll all date you, basically, is what we re saying.
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SPEAKER_05
But I guess specifically when to disclose is just whenever it comes up.
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SPEAKER_05
And if it doesn t come up on the first date, then that s not like you re being sketchy by keeping a secret.
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SPEAKER_05
And if they re not into it?
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Deuces.
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SPEAKER_05
Deuces.
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I don t think you need to text it in advance or anything.
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SPEAKER_05
I think just face-to-face when it comes up.
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Maybe get one of those planes that writes a message in the sky.
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Yes.
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Or a witch that can spell, Surrender Dorothy.
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SPEAKER_05
Remember that?
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Yes.
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A witch as well.
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Get a witch.
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If they were concerned about you never having been with a woman, they should be concerned that you ve hired a witch to deliver a message.
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SPEAKER_03
Welcome to Lady Town.
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Come this way.
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Right here.
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Right there.
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There you are.
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Kay, thanks for entrusting me, May, and Fortune with your love life.
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Now get out there and start
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Gay dating your face off.
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SPEAKER_04
Gay date your face off.
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Okay, Fortuna Mae, it s now time for us to answer a question sent in this evening by one of our audience members.
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Whoa.
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I wonder if it s gonna be Mae s parents.
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Oh my God.
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Okay, Ellen writes,
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How do you know when the time is right to move in with your partner?
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Well, can I just share how Stephanie and I moved in together?
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Please do.
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I love that Mae s parents are asking you this.
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So I used to have a loft in downtown Los Angeles, and six months into our relationship,
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Stephanie came over one night and she said, Oh my gosh, I am so sick of looking for parking downtown.
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And she said, in all seriousness, should we just move in together?
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SPEAKER_04
Wow.
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Because she couldn t find parking.
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Six months in.
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Six months in.
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Dang.
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And she had never been with a woman.
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See?
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But I said, yeah, why not?
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And honestly,
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I feel like if it wasn t Stephanie, if it was anybody else, I would truly be like, oh, my gosh, this girl is a psychopath.
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SPEAKER_04
What a nut.
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SPEAKER_04
Yeah.
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But we were luckily on the same page, like out of the gate.
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And I truly I didn t even flinch.
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And I remember telling friends of mine, I was like, Stephanie is moving in because she can t find she s sick of finding parking downtown.
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And so, yeah, that s how I knew it was time to move in.
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SPEAKER_04
What about you, Fortune?
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SPEAKER_04
How did you and Jax know?
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SPEAKER_03
Well, we were long distance for a year, and Jax was a teacher at the time.
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SPEAKER_03
Was she in Chicago?
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SPEAKER_03
She was in Chicago, I was in LA, and we were traveling so much.
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SPEAKER_03
Not only because I was on tour, we were flying back and forth to see each other.
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SPEAKER_03
We both, at the end of that year, were just spent.
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SPEAKER_03
We were so tired.
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SPEAKER_03
We were like, we literally can t do this for another year.
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SPEAKER_03
We were like, we re either moving in together or breaking up.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04
Wow.
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SPEAKER_04
Did it feel right just right away where you thought, oh man, this sounds so fun?
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SPEAKER_04
Because that s how I felt when I thought of the fun I was having with Stephanie, when I thought of like,
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SPEAKER_04
Oh my gosh, we re going to wake up every day and go to bed every day.
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SPEAKER_04
I was just like, that s incredible.
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SPEAKER_03
She had to sacrifice the moving of just because of my career and having to be here.
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SPEAKER_03
I remember we drove across country and we were both so nervous, but we weren t communicating to each other.
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SPEAKER_03
We didn t want to spook the other one.
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SPEAKER_03
Were you both going,
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah, big deal.
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SPEAKER_03
This feels right.
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SPEAKER_03
Then as soon as we rolled into L.A., I remember we went to sleep both still like, what are we doing?
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SPEAKER_03
What are we doing?
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SPEAKER_03
And then woke up the next day like, we re good.
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SPEAKER_03
This is good.
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SPEAKER_03
Wow.
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And we immediately were like, live together very well.
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SPEAKER_04
That is so key, is living together well.
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SPEAKER_04
I know it sounds obvious, but you can be madly in love with somebody, but do you live well together?
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SPEAKER_03
You definitely have to experience that before you make any big commitment.
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SPEAKER_04
Yeah.
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Because I would say Stephanie and I live together flawlessly.
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SPEAKER_03
Really?
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Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah, we live together really well, too.
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Other than my wife s like a crazy cleaner germ person and I... Spreads germs everywhere.
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SPEAKER_03
She would love for me to be on the level she s at with that.
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SPEAKER_04
And did you have to step up to the Jax?
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Standard?
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I m better, but I mean, she just is that person that is always cleaning.
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She s always fixing things.
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And I m just like, should we order Thai food?
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SPEAKER_04
And what has she relaxed at all?
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Yeah.
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I mean, she s always going to clean a lot more than me.
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That s just always going to be the case.
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Sometimes she will say, and she s been gay, her obviously her whole life, but she came out at 15.
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Um, and she s like, sometimes I just need a husband and I m like, sorry.
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SPEAKER_04
But, like, to fix, like... Just to do something.
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That s really funny.
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I know Stephanie and I always talk about, like, when we re, you know, carrying some heavy thing, we re like, we need to get a husband.
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SPEAKER_04
This is ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_03
I ve gone on the road with some, taking some mail comics every now and then to open for me, and they re, like, taking our bags and handling these things.
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SPEAKER_03
And we re like, this is nice.
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You know what else Stephanie and I talk about is we joke, we re not really looking for a throuple.
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But Stephanie was saying, you know what we re not good at?
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And well, first of all, many things, but what are those things like tablescapes, you know, when people like arrangements for the table or when you re wrapping a present and or putting a present in a bag with like little paper that comes out.
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SPEAKER_04
Whenever we do those kind of things, we re like...
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SPEAKER_04
How is it that both of us are terrible and we don t have the touch for any of these things?
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SPEAKER_04
And so we re always joking when we re hanging out with different friends.
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SPEAKER_04
We re like, she would be a perfect addition to our thruple.
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She can do that.
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Lovely gift basket.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I m really good at that type of thing.
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So I feel like I d be a good addition.
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But very quickly, you d be like, oh, we just have another seven year old boy to look after.
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I d be like, always needing hugs and crying.
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SPEAKER_05
I m a little confused about this.
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SPEAKER_04
Yeah, and I look like Finn.
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SPEAKER_04
Yeah.
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Yeah, that s true.
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Well, and also, if we brought you into our throuple, I think one day we d both be like,
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This is kind of weird may is in our trouble is in our marriage this is just like three years into it.
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SPEAKER_04
Stephanie and i we would want it to be like okay we re you know we need our throttle person to wrap our presents but then you stay home and we re gonna go to the party.
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and deliver the present.
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SPEAKER_04
Oh, that is not a good deal for me.
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SPEAKER_04
We just we re just using you for tables.
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Here s the thing, Fortune.
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It s not a good deal for me, but it s kind of turning me off.
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SPEAKER_05
It s kind of like like it s got a BDSM quality of like, I m just the house boy.
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SPEAKER_05
I m like, just.
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SPEAKER_05
Yes.
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SPEAKER_03
Oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_03
I don t even.
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SPEAKER_05
I m just like, oh, yes, of course.
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SPEAKER_03
I would not dare go to this party, but I hope they enjoy the gifts I wrap.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03
Wow.
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SPEAKER_04
And you would need to go buy it.
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SPEAKER_04
Actually, Stephanie could buy it, but you just need to wrap it.
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SPEAKER_05
And then what are you doing in this scenario?
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SPEAKER_05
Stephanie s buying it.
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SPEAKER_05
I m wrapping it.
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SPEAKER_05
You re overseeing this.
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SPEAKER_05
I do this to you.
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SPEAKER_03
Thanks, buddy.
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SPEAKER_03
Thanks, little buddy.
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SPEAKER_03
Thanks, terrible throuple.
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SPEAKER_05
Like, whatever happened to Mae Martin s career?
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I thought, like, they just disappeared.
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Mae lives with Tig and Stephanie.
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Mae s a house boy.
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Wow.
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Well, good luck to y all.
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Well, thank you.
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Thanks, Fortune.
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I don t even know if we ve answered anybody s question.
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I don t think we...
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Helped anyone.
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Ellen, that is our advice, if you can sift through whatever it is that we just talked about.
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Oh yeah, did we actually give advice on that?
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Yeah, we talked about when to move in.
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Oh yeah.
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We just shared our stories and now we re like, good luck, whatever with us.
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Godspeed.
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It was our chance to just gush about our spouses.
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That was the takeaway.
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Thanks for asking.
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And thanks to everyone who shared a question with us.
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May and Fortune, before we say goodnight, I have one final task for us.
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We re going to name that thing.
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Name That Thing is a segment where we help people figure out what to call their stuff.
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SPEAKER_03
Okay.
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SPEAKER_04
Yeah, we ve named a lot of things on this show from a fuzzy tomato to a gang of kayakers.
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Only catch is that whatever name we come up with for this thing
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It s legally binding.
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Wow.
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Listener must use it.
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Okay.
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Do you, it s stressing you out, Fortune?
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You re up for it.
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All right.
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So do you think you can help with this, my friends?
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SPEAKER_04
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04
Okay.
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So today s request comes from a listener named Kit.
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SPEAKER_01
Hey TIG, Fortune, and Mae.
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SPEAKER_01
Hey, my name is Kit and these are my pickleball pals.
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SPEAKER_01
We are a group of queer friends that I brought together to play Pickleball, and we are collecting up more local queers, and I think we should give ourselves a name.
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SPEAKER_01
My toddler calls Pickleball, Pickletickleball.
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There could be something in there.
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SPEAKER_01
I ve also thought of the Big Dills and the Kelly Picklers, but that doesn t feel right.
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SPEAKER_01
Please help.
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Thanks.
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I like the Kelly Picklers.
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That was pretty funny.
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SPEAKER_05
I know, like, they were throwing out great puns and stuff.
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SPEAKER_04
Anything we come up with, it s going to be... Are you familiar with Kelly Pickler?
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SPEAKER_03
No.
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I was going to say.
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And who is who is that?
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Kelly Pigler is a country singer.
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I think this started an American idol.
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But you were probably in the UK when that was happening.
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SPEAKER_05
I think I missed that.
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SPEAKER_05
Yeah.
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But I still liked it.
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SPEAKER_05
And I knew it was a pun.
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SPEAKER_05
I could you know, I could say you re no fool.
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SPEAKER_05
I m no fool.
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I got you know, my pun meter was tingling.
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I like to kind of break it down and think about the clues that we ve been given.
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Queer.
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SPEAKER_04
Queer.
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That s right.
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Quickle balls.
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Quickle balls?
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Dickle pickles.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah, queer.
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SPEAKER_04
What did you say, Fortune?
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Dickle pickles.
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I don t know.
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SPEAKER_03
Isn t that what they said?
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SPEAKER_03
Oh, they did?
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SPEAKER_05
They said the big dill pickles or something like that.
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SPEAKER_03
Oh, I just heard the Kelly Pickler picklers.
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Well, you ve played pickleball, Tig.
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I have.
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I played tennis in college.
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I feel like it translates.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Fortune, did you wear a tennis dress?
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I had to wear a tennis skirt.
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SPEAKER_03
Yes.
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SPEAKER_03
Until.
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junior year of tennis, they finally let me start wearing shorts.
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SPEAKER_03
How come?
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SPEAKER_03
Thanks, Billie Jean King.
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SPEAKER_03
I have pictures.
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SPEAKER_03
I have some good legs.
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SPEAKER_03
OK.
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SPEAKER_03
You got some good.
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SPEAKER_03
My legs are my best feature.
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SPEAKER_03
You got like, are they real strong and like crazy strong calves?
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SPEAKER_03
Like I m built just like my dad.
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SPEAKER_03
We have a big belly.
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SPEAKER_03
big chubby cheeks, and then like the most muscular, defined calves you ll ever see.
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SPEAKER_03
Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_03
So you got some handsome legs.
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SPEAKER_03
I got some handsome legs.
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SPEAKER_04
May, how are your legs?
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SPEAKER_04
And have you worn a tennis skirt?
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SPEAKER_05
I have not worn a tennis skirt or really played tennis.
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My legs are
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SPEAKER_05
not my best feature, but I used to nanny non-verbal autistic kids under five.
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And this one kid, he had never spoken.
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We hadn t heard his voice.
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He was like four.
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And we re doing like play therapy, trying to get him to learn speech.
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And one day he puts his hand up my skinny jeans and he touches my calf
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And he goes, in this strange accent, he goes, spiky chickens.
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SPEAKER_05
Spiky chickens.
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SPEAKER_05
Because I hadn t shaved, he called my cats spiky chickens because I have skinny little pale prickly legs.
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Spiky chickens.
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SPEAKER_03
Well, that could be the name of the team.
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SPEAKER_03
The spiky chickens.
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SPEAKER_03
I don t mind that.
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SPEAKER_03
Tickle ball.
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SPEAKER_03
Tickle ball?
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SPEAKER_03
Is that what you said?
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SPEAKER_03
That s a new game.
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You hit the ball and tickle your partner.
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SPEAKER_03
Well, the spiky chickens is a
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good option.
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Mm-hmm.
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The dickle pickers.
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The dickle pickers?
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What s in your tiny little water bottle, Fortune?
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SPEAKER_02
Nothing now.
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SPEAKER_02
Straight vodka.
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SPEAKER_02
Is it whiskey?
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No, y all.
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SPEAKER_02
No, y all.
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No.
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No, the dickle pickers.
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I m feeling somewhere between
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You know what we could do?
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We could throw this to our audience and have them, we ll take a poll between the, what was yours Fortune?
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Dickle Pickers.
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Dickle Pickers and Spiky Chickens.
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Oh, I just opened the comments here and someone said the Spiky Picklers.
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SPEAKER_02
That s a combo.
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SPEAKER_02
That s pretty good.
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The Handsome Pickles.
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It s Dickel Picklers.
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Dickel Pickers.
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SPEAKER_00
Dickel Picklers.
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What did I say?
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SPEAKER_02
Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_02
Dickle Picklers?
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I think I said Dickle Pickers.
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SPEAKER_02
Dickle Pickers or Picklers?
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I m sure somebody that produces this show heard what you said.
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SPEAKER_03
And then May is Spiky Chickens.
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Dickle Pickers was mine.
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SPEAKER_02
Dickle Pickers.
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Dickle Pickers.
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Or Spiky Chickens.
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Are we able to put Queerspears in there?
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SPEAKER_02
We re missing out on some Queerspears.
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SPEAKER_03
But again, it s Spicy Chickens.
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SPEAKER_02
I do like Dickle Pickers, though.
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SPEAKER_02
Dickle Pickers or Picklers?
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SPEAKER_02
Dickle Pickers, I think.
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SPEAKER_02
Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_03
I think it s Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_03
Okay.
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SPEAKER_03
Let s add Queerspears in and Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_03
But it was Dickle Pickers, not Picklers.
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SPEAKER_03
Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_03
No, it was Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_02
OK, this is chaos.
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SPEAKER_03
OK, so we re going to we re going to we re going to vote for Queerspears, Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_02
No, Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_02
No, Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_02
No, Dickle Picklers.
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SPEAKER_02
Are you sure?
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SPEAKER_02
I don t think it was.
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SPEAKER_02
No, it was Picklers.
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And Spiky Chickens.
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Spiky Chickens.
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Someone in the chat wrote Pickle Me Elmo.
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That s pretty good.
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SPEAKER_02
Like Tickle Me Elmo.
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Mm hmm.
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Thanks for the explanation, Mae.
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Some people are saying Diggle Pickers.
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Diggle Pickers, I don t know.
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You guys, this is a circus now.
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If Diggle Picklers wins, they can also choose Diggle Queer Spears won.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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None of us thought of that, right?
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That was just a- That was none of us.
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It was someone in the audience who came up with that.
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All right, it s Queer Spears.
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Yeah, Kit, your pickleball team will now and forever be known as the Queer Spears.
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Boom!
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It s legally binding.
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They re saying way to go, Lynn.
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It is.
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Lynn did it.
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Lynn came up with that.
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Who did it?
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Lynn.
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Are you saying Lynn or Lynn?
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Lynn.
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Lynn.
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Lynn.
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God, I feel like I m dealing with Maggie right now.
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Lynn.
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L-Y-N-N.
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So, Len?
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Len?
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Lenna.
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Come on, Maggie.
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Quit laughing at me.
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I m trying to have a conversation with you.
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Well, it is Legally Binding Kit.
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I hope that you and your teammates enjoy your new name, the Queerspears.
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Oh, man.
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Fortune and May, this has been an absolute
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Pleasure.
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Pledge.
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Pledge!
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What a callback.
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I already forgot about Pledge.
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It is really good.
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I m excited about the queer spears.
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Yeah, I think that was a good choice.
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I mean, it would have been insane if it was the dickle pickers or spiky chickens.
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I have to say, I would personally
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go with spiky chickens.
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Thank you.
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Take this is why I m in your marriage.
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Pickers.
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Pickers.
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I think it was what it was.
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No, I fortune you sound drunk at this point.
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Pickers.
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But I would prefer personally, I would call my team the
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spiky chickens, just because there s a story there and it makes no sense.
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And that s what I lean towards a little more.
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Oh, this person said the Perky Jerkins.
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That s pretty good, too.
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Oh, boy.
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Do we vote again?
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No, voting has closed.
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We re not going to do a recount.
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Now,
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Is there anything that either of you would like to promote?
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Yes.
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I am doing improv at the Elysian, which is a tiny little beautiful theater with Stephanie Allen, Tig s wife, and Alana Johnson on the 16th and 17th.
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Alana is so funny.
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So is Stephanie.
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But I mean, that goes without saying.
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But just for anyone that doesn t know Alana, Alana Banana.
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She s so funny.
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She s one of the most ridiculous humans wandering on this planet.
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Then I m at Largo on October 12th and 22nd.
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Yeah.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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Amazing.
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Yeah.
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Well, I m on a stand-up tour.
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It s a whole different hour if you saw my last special.
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This weekend, I m in San Antonio, Texas and New Orleans.
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And then in a couple weeks, I m in Portland, Oregon, Spokane, Washington, Boise, Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
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Never been there before.
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Oakland, California.
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That will be my San Francisco stop will be Oakland.
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Evansville, Indiana, Dayton, Ohio, Charleston, West Virginia.
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Grand Rapids, Royal Oak, all those places.
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Kansas City, yeah.
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My website has all that information, fortunefeimster.com, and I just added a bunch of new dates that are on there as well.
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Nice.
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Man, the road goes on forever.
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And that brings me to my tour dates, which is September 15th, Torrington, Connecticut, September 16th, Rochester, New York, September 17th, Wilmington, Delaware.
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And then I m doing a European tour in October.
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So go to my website, TigNotaro.com for all ticket and show information.
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which you can also do for all these other shows.
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And then October 28th, I ll be back in the States in La Crosse, Wisconsin.
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And then write this down.
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November 4th, there s two shows.
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Brooklyn, New York at King s Theater.
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I m taping my next standup special.
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So come on out.
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Maybe there will be a surprise guest.
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But yeah, I hope to see everybody out there on the road.
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And I mean, everyone, we got to promote our big thing.
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Oh, yeah, which is our podcast.
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If you liked listening to this nonsense.
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than our podcast.
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Yeah, then buckle up for way more nonsense.
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Way more.
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I can t even tell you how much nonsense.
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If you do not like nonsense, do not listen.
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But I do suggest you check it out.
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Go to The Handsome Podcast, subscribe.
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Check out the nonsense.
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It s so fun.
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It s so fun.
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Oh tell your pals, you know So yeah, check out go right now actually right now go subscribe to handsome.
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That s all it is handsome
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subscribe, listen, and come see us on tour.
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Thank you for having us, though.
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Thank you so much for taking the time.
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You re both so ridiculously busy.
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I really appreciate it.
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And so does everybody on the show.
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Thanks to all the producers and everyone at APM.
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Thanks to everyone watching for taking the time all around the world, all around the country.
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And I can t forget you, Dana s
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and Beckies, goodnight.
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Don t Ask Tig is hosted by me, Tig Notaro.
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It s produced by Thomas Ouellette and Shana Deloria.
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Our executive producer and editor is Beth Perlman.
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Engineering and sound mixing by Alex Simpson.
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Digital production by James Napoli.
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Talent booking by Marianne Ways.
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Production support from Maria Wurtele and Lou Barron.
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Our theme music is Friend and Tig by Edie Burkell and Kyle Krushem.
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And Listen to Your Heart by Edie Burkell.
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Special thanks to Hunter Seidman.
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APM Studios executives in charge are Chandra Kavati,
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Alex Schaffert and Joanne Griffith.
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Concept developed by Tracy Mumford.
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Our executive consultant is Dean Capello and Gobsmack Studios.
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You can always ask for advice at DontAskTig.org.
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Just write in with your problem or send us a voice memo.
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Remember to follow us on social media at DontAskTig.
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DontAskTig is a production of American Public Media.
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And as always, thanks Dana and I ll tell Becky.
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Hi, I m stand-up comedian and sex symbol Tig Notaro.
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And I m actor and writer Cheryl Hines.
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Before Cheryl and I got into the big business of podcasting together, we were just simply friends.
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And we re still friends.
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But now we talk about a different documentary every week on our podcast, Tig and Cheryl, True Story.
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So whether you love documentaries or just want to hear us slowly lose our minds, check out Tig and Cheryl, True Story, wherever you get your podcasts.
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Alright, cool.