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The following podcast is a dear media production.
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She s a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Fantastic.
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And he s a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie.
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And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride.
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Get ready for some major realness.
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Welcome to the skinny confidential him and her.
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I mean, we launched during the pandemic, so we ve only ever known, like, remote work, but we re spread out across the US.
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And that s why it is so important to build a really strong team who you can trust, because, you know, we are all spread out.
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I think you guys probably see this all the time.
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When a celebrity comes on, they re talking about their brand, and you know that they don t own every piece of the brand.
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Like, they re the spokesperson, or they came in at the Series A, or they didn t sit there.
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on like a whiteboard mapping out the product strategy.
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And if you don t do that, the customer is so savvy now, like you see it on TikTok, they know everything.
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It doesn t have the same momentum.
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Hello, everybody.
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Welcome back to The Him and Her Show, or today I should say The Him, Him, Him and Her Show.
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We have our friends Simon Huck and Phil Riportella on the show.
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They have become fast friends.
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This is actually Simon s second appearance on the show.
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If you guys have not heard that first episode we did with him, go check it out.
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Many of you guys maybe remember the episode that we did talking all about Lemmy and his journey.
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For those of you that are unfamiliar with Simon, he s partnered with Kourtney Kardashian on their amazing brand Lemmy, which we discuss all about.
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But today we have Simon and Phil on the show and we are diving deeper into all things investing, co-founding businesses, aligning on relationships, relationship maintenance.
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They also share tips on how to nourish a relationship when you have a partner who s the exact opposite of yourself and how to build separate habits that are also symbiotic in the relationship.
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And this episode is just jam-packed with two people we re fortunate enough to call personal friends.
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With that, Simon and Phil, welcome to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show.
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This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her.
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Okay, so I want to go back to, first of all, how you guys met.
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You said you fell in love.
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When you were falling in love, what were you doing both in businesses?
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At the time that we started dating, I had command, which I still have command entertainment group, which connects brands with celebrities.
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So I ve had that business for 18 years.
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That s how long ago is this when you guys met eight years ago?
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Yeah.
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And I was at like JP Morgan working in bank.
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Like, yeah, I was at a bank.
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Were you on, were you filming any television at this time?
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Spin crowd was over and I guess I was occasionally on the girls show keeping up, but I certainly wasn t like a full-time.
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And Phil, did you know, were you aware of him or have you, had you seen him before?
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I had never seen him before, but I think a girlfriend of mine like recognized him.
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So like I had a little bit of context going into it, but never saw the spin crowd.
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Simon actually told me if I ever watched it, he would break up with me.
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It s so good.
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I loved it.
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No, I love you for being kind.
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I love it.
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But it s actually not okay.
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Pull some clips and put it on your Instagram.
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What s wrong with it now?
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I have to watch it.
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It was about our business expanding into LA and my partner at the time, this guy, Jonathan, who now goes by Food God.
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I think the dynamic just wasn t right for me.
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It was there I knew that I was meant to be behind the camera.
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I never wanted to be
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I never wanted to be the star.
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I wanted to be like star adjacent.
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Like I wanted to work in entertainment, but I did not want to.
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I wanted to be involved in it, but I didn t want to be the person.
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I liked that show.
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I loved it.
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I love that you liked it.
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Thank you.
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I really watched the entire thing.
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You should watch it.
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Yeah, that s amazing.
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I have to binge it.
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You should watch it and do a commentary.
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So you re working in finance.
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Yep.
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You re doing command.
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Yes.
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And then how did these businesses that you guys have created, like how how does it grow?
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Judy comes first.
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I had a ton of friends who were involved in these emergency situations, friends who lost homes in Southern California, friends in Florida who lost their home in storm surges.
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And I kept saying, what did you guys do to prepare?
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They had no preparation.
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Judy was born.
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That was the first time we ever met.
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Yeah, at Arena.
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Yeah, we went there and you gave the Judy presentation.
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And I remember being blown away
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Not because Judy was great, but because the women and men that were at that presentation in LA, I thought to myself, they are so fucked if something happens.
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They were not prepared for anything.
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They had no idea what to do.
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They were shocked that anything like this could even be possible.
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And I remember looking at Lauren and being like, listen, all we have to do is be prepared like 5% of the way and we will shoot past everything.
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And you re fine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That s so funny.
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Right?
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Wasn t that the vibe there?
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That was the vibe.
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That was like, it was all these bougie women who were like, Oh my God, a flood.
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Like it was insane.
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People were like, what s a flood?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So you launched Judy.
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So we launched Judy around that time.
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Phil and his now co-founder, Brian start discussing the idea of sniff.
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Phil always had a love for fragrance.
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We have a mutual friend who started a fragrance brand based out of London.
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He was obsessed with the category.
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He kept researching it.
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He knew he, he wanted to do it.
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And I think around that time you started taking like initial meetings with investors.
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Yeah, and even backing up a little bit, I left banking, worked with a few different startups just to get my feet wet, I guess.
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And then honestly, Simon inspired me.
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He started off with Ahuman, and I watched him kind of go through that process, then into Judy.
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And I was like, wait, I ve always wanted to do something like this too.
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And co-founder and I at the time, like you said, we were just kind of ideating.
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I was like, didn t want to ask Simon for too much help at the time until it was real.
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Cause I did want to do it on my own.
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And like, it was like my baby.
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And so I think that was kind of our deal.
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Like, obviously you helped me, but like when I launched it was when I, when you kind of helped step in and like really, really helped, but like getting it off the ground, like it was me and Brian the whole way.
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And yeah, we just started taking meetings off of LinkedIn.
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I think I was like, I was so outside of, and so far removed from fragrance that I had to like really spend a whole year learning about it.
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And you guys must see this too, like the things you did in the beginning to like set your career in the right motion, like you look back and you re like, I can t believe I did that.
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Like what?
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For me, like I picked up a tabloid magazine that had this woman named Lizzie Groupman.
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And I was 20 years old.
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I had $7 and I called her office every single day for three weeks.
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And I was like, I will work for free.
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I will do anything you want.
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And that confidence to pick up that phone.
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I, that just seems so crazy to do that now at that same level.
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And I did it and it changed the trajectory of my life forever.
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It s it s why I m here now.
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But do you feel like it s maybe because, so I think about this a lot where, because I agree with you, you do things when you re earlier in your career, when you re quote unquote, maybe not a somebody yet because nobody knows of you.
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But then once you reach a certain level, now you re maybe in your head like, oh, I ve already, I m this person.
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I can t do these things that I used to do.
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I think that it s a dicey position to be in because like, those are the things that got you where you are.
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And it s such a good point.
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And arguably, those are the things you need to keep doing and never let your ego get in the way.
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I am on LinkedIn all the time looking for people to hire for the businesses.
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You guys know great businesses take great teams.
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I am the recruiter.
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I can hire any recruiter, but no one s as good as me.
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I think that s one thing to me that s so attractive about you.
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Michael and I don t go to dinner all the time with podcast guests.
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You interview them and maybe you never see them again, maybe you do.
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But with you, what I m so attracted to, I think, is that
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you are in the glitz and the glam and you re surrounded by and you deal with it, but you really, you re, you really don t have a huge ego.
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And I think that it s so rare to, to find someone that s in your position.
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That s so down to earth.
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You ve really been able to maintain a humbleness about you.
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That s very seductive in a way that like, it s, it s nice to be around.
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It s refreshing.
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Thank you.
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I mean, I also see the, like the glitz and the glamor is so temporary.
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I think my perspective on it is just so bleeding and not real.
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I think that I never get myself into it because I know it s just the way this world works.
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Yeah, it seems like you have a good boundary around it.
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Being around all of the people, and yourself included, that have had success publicly and have quote unquote reached fame, what mistakes do you see people making that maybe that fades or it doesn t work out?
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Because obviously you ve been around a lot of people that have also been able to weather those storms and last for a very long time.
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I mean, the most successful influencers, celebrities are ones that don t play for their critics.
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And I think that s why I would probably make an awful influencer or celebrity because I am so sensitive to feedback that if I got a message saying, you sounded like this on this
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podcast, I d be like, next time I won t say, you know, I will immediately think, okay, I should change my and the most successful celebrities.
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Let s talk about the Kardashians.
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These are people who just always stay true to themselves year over year are consistent and are not playing to their critics.
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You can t create for your critics, because if you create for your critics, you re you re creating for the people who don t like you.
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You got to wait for the people who do like you.
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Right.
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Right.
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When you mentioned LinkedIn, that s interesting that you guys that you guys look for jobs there.
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I found this hack that that s really working right now is where I m I m going on tick tock.
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Okay.
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And I m actually doing the job interview through TikTok, meaning I m looking at their page and like stalking their page.
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And that s the interview.
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So when I actually interview them, I already know.
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For creative positions.
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Who I m dealing with.
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Yeah.
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So like an example is like, say there s like a marketer, like say you find this really great marketer on TikTok.
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You go through like their whole page and you see what they re about.
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By the time I ve actually interviewed them, it s like I already interviewed them.
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Genius, like I did the same thing what we were looking for like a social media manager or a graphic designer and it s the best way to like learn about someone.
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If someone s on LinkedIn and they re like, oh my God, what if Simon s looking at me?
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What what is credentials for you to reach out?
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If they have relevant experience, we always say this, though, like your experience doesn t necessarily translate into like the perfect hire.
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We hire for we hire for attitude and we and we train for scale.
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So the attitude of I m going to get shit done.
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I m going to learn and I m eager to take on anything.
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That is the dream hire.
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I feel so blessed at Lemmy.
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Like we have just a SWAT team of gritty go-getters who are 27, 28 years old and just like burning through things.
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Like they re just, they re so advanced and a lot of it was learned.
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There s like a weird thing going on and, and maybe TikTok doesn t like this, but there s, I think there s like a put, I don t know, my personal experience when I was coming up, it was like, whatever you need me to do, however you need me to do it, I m doing.
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I still am like that.
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You have to like bring it, bring it in.
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Regardless of the pay.
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And I understand people want to be compensated and you need to be, but I think personally when I m hiring and the first question is like, what s the PTO?
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What s the vacation?
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Like, like what am I like immediately?
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It s not that I m,
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I ve almost kind of written the person off because it s not even about their skill or their worth.
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It s more like I want someone that s enthusiastic and excited about doing whatever they need to do.
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The other stuff I feel will take care of itself later.
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But if that s your first thing is like voicing that you ll only do things in a set period of time based on the, I understand, like I understand why people want that, but it s just like an attitude thing where I feel like when you re young and you re youthful and before you have a lot of obligations, like this is the time when it s like over deliver.
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People may have a problem with that, but I guess as an employer, what I m saying is I kind of ignore or it just goes like this with people that aren t like that.
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I just don t see them.
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Yeah.
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We had an interview last week and the person, their first question was like, is there a wellness stipend?
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And I just thought it s fine that you want to know because maybe you have a wellness stipend at whatever startup you re at now.
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But is that the first question?
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No, I m sorry.
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No one wants to hear the real truth.
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No, that s not the first question.
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In fact, the question should be, what can I do?
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Right.
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That should be the question.
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Listen, listen.
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It s survival of the fittest.
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If you re going to come into a business and stand out, it s like, bring your A-game.
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If I have to take out the trash, or I have to unpack boxes, or I have to do things I don t want to do, it s like, to me, it s part of the gig.
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It s part of the gig.
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How do you guys find employees that are so amazing?
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Besides what I don t, I mean, past LinkedIn, like you said that you ve like, sort of like trained a lot of these employees on the job.
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How do you find them?
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How do you put them in the right position?
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And then how do you create an environment where they can thrive?
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Once you kind of have that first interview, typically like the attitude shines.
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And if they have the right attitude and the grit, it s really just a matter of time and patience and also giving them the opportunity to flourish, giving them the skills.
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I often feel like I, the more, the more time I give them and like the more opportunity, the more they like, if I m like constantly micromanaging every single thing, like they re going to need to make some mistakes, but once they make them, are they going to make that same mistake again?
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We have been incredibly lucky in our businesses.
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I think we have just this dream team of people that scale businesses really, really quickly and understand what it takes.
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It s Friday night.
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What do I need to do?
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Do you share employees throughout your companies or are they separate companies?
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Totally separate.
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Totally separate.
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Completely different teams.
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Shared learnings.
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Shared learnings.
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And is it like an office?
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I m just curious, like for my own selfish self, is it like a big office or is it separate or is it in L.A.?
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Like what?
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How does that structure?
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So we actually don t even have an office.
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I mean, we launched during the pandemic, so we ve only ever known like remote work, but we re spread out across the U.S.
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I have people in L.A.
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and Chicago
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And that s why it is so important to build a really strong team who you can trust because, you know, we are all spread out.
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Like we don t see each other.
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I mean, we have, you know, Zooms and we re on Slack all day, but like, yeah, you just, there has to be like that innate trust there too.
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Having direct access to the Kardashians and obviously you being partnered with Courtney, what are some of the things you ve learned from that family when it comes to scaling a business effectively?
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Partners are everything.
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Like finding the best business partners and the best teams.
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It s all about teams and partners.
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Well, I think that that s shown through you, Emma Greedy.
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I mean, it s like you guys, it s very strong partners, incredibly strong partners, and also owning every single piece of your business.
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I think you guys probably see this all the time.
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When a celebrity comes on, they re talking about their brand and you know that they don t own every piece of the brand.
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Like they re the spokesperson or they came in at the series a or
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They didn t sit there on like a whiteboard mapping out the product strategy.
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And if you don t do that, the customer is so savvy.
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Now, like you see it on Tik TOK, they know everything.
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They feel it.
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The consumer, the end consumer feels it.
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And it s, it doesn t have the same momentum.
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Haley Bieber s done a good job of that.
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You can tell that she s been involved since the inception, since the idea.
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You can tell she has her hands in everything.
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To me, that s what it feels like.
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There s no she she is involved in every piece of the business and you can just feel it.
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There s no one that supports it more than Haley.
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Right.
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You can see how hard she s working and that always.
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And it s been tremendously successful.
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Melissa Wood s done a really good a really good job of that.
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Courtney s done a really good job with Lemmy.
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I feel like I feel like she like wanted to do this idea like years ago.
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Lemmy has been something that she has wanted to do for 10 years.
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And then she is such a perfectionist.
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She wanted to make sure that where she was in her life, she s happily married, that she could devote all the time to it.
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I mean, we four years ago sat in her living room and we had ordered like 60 different gummy vitamins and we went through every single product.
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And we looked at the ingredients in so many of these ingredients were filled with
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just bad for you formulations, gelatin and corn syrup, all the, and it didn t make any sense to us.
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Like how could you not create a clean formulation if you have the opportunity?
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And I think the challenge there and the opportunities that the consumers don t really know.
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I heard about this brand through Christine Cavallari and then the founder came on our podcast.
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Her name is Lisa.
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It is called Chroma Wellness.
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And there s two products with Chroma that I take every single day.
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And one is their beauty matcha.
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It s so good with a little bit of raw milk.
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You could use regular milk or almond too.
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You froth it up and then you add some hot water on top with lots of ice.
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It is delicious, but the best part is, is there s 10 grams of protein in two scoops.
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So I get protein in my matcha, which is really amazing.
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And then they also have this product that I truly harassed the founder for, and it is cranberry hydration elixir.
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And it s basically like this like slightly spicy cranberry electrolytes.
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They both taste delicious and like I said I Have been trying to tighten up post baby, and these are two products that have really helped me because of the protein and Because the cranberry it just gives me like something sweet at the end of the night.
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They also have a 5-day
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reset.
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It is absolutely the best reset on the market.
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There are, especially with Tik TOK, they re able to do a deep dive.
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You know, I think, I think a lot of supplements can almost feel like window dressing where they put a, an ingredient in, but do they have the right clinical dosage of that ingredient?
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Like once you start to get into it and you do a little bit of research, I think the consumer has so many choices.
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There s a lot of incredible brands out there.
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Did you feel like that same with candles when you first entered this industry?
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Did you feel like you needed to disrupt the category?
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Absolutely.
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I was actually going to say that, too, because, you know, I think you see a lot of these premium brands, right?
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And like we have candles that we used to burn in our house and they re toxic and they re really bad for you.
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And they re really expensive, too.
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So when we started Sniff, we were like, let s just create a product that is clean, non-toxic, super high quality.
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It still gives you that like premium luxury experience, but at a fraction of the cost.
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And same with fragrance, too, you know, like I think you saw a kind of like clean beauty trickle down with like makeup and cosmetics.
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And then now it s kind of consumers are getting smarter, like you just said, and they don t they care what s in their fragrance and they know what s burning in their house.
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It s funny because when I first had a baby, I was burning candles and she developed like a cough.
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And I was like, where is this coming from?
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And the cough was from the candles in my house.
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This is like three years ago.
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I didn t I didn t know.
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Like, I think as a mother, you do all these things for like household non-toxic and like branch basics and like you re trying to like do all the clean eating and that and you forget that the candle that you re burning.
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Yeah.
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All day long.
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All day long.
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Yeah.
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Everyone s breathing in.
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You have to look into it.
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Yeah.
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This is so weird, but some some candles that I ve turned on my air purifier machines, like all of a sudden, like go wild.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Yours doesn t happen.
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That that is that should be an ad.
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Yeah.
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Can we use that as an ad?
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Yeah.
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Hello.
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Thank you, Lauren.
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Like someone s in their house and like they put the like toxic candle on and like all of a sudden the air purifier goes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that s actually that should be the test, you know And like then and then later you light sniff and it s like just humming.
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Yeah.
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Um, yeah, let me chill Yeah, let me check and you take a let me chill and you re calm.
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Yeah.
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Okay, why decide to go in to vagina hell?
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So vaginal health is obviously like a huge part of women s health.
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And a lot of people, when we talk about gummies, like gummies are the beginning of a lot of people in their wellness journey.
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Like a lot of people start in gummies before they go into capsules.
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So it was an obvious choice for Lemmy and for Courtney.
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She s always been interested in probiotics and prebiotics.
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So Lemmy Purr was something that she was really excited about.
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The name is something that Courtney came up with.
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So fun.
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Yeah.
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And I think also the ingredients were something that allowed us to have like incredible clinical benefits around kind of balancing your, your vaginal microbiome and the pH odor control taste sweetness, which are something that a lot of women think about and are already buying products for in the capsule format.
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Can you do one called Let Me Come and make them for guys?
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We really want to.
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We really and we added pineapple in there.
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We really want to.
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I don t know how big the market size is, but Michael, what do you think?
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I think the market s pretty sizable.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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OK, great.
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Yeah.
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You could be the model.
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We could do a before and after taste.
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The clinical trials.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They say pineapple too for semen, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It s.
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Yes, they do.
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Pineapple is really good to ingest for odor control.
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for odor control.
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Yes, we use a clinically studied probiotic that gives us those claims.
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But yes, pineapple definitely sweetens the deal.
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Yeah, that is an ad too.
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Yeah, let me come and all the guys can start on the nose.
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No pun intended.
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What would you call it?
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I don t know, but I don t.
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You let me finish.
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Yeah, that s actually pretty good.
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Let me get one.
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Let me finish this pretty quick.
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Run it up the chain and see.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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What has been your most popular launch?
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Let me per she flies, let me D bloat is a close second to her.
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And then we just launched our capsule collection.
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We have let me curb, which is glucose control and a craving support.
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I take it every day, gets you off that goddamn sugar rollercoaster and stops the cravings.
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The food noise for me gone by five o clock and let me burn has been our kind of runaway.
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It s our fat burning capsule.
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And I should preface this because Courtney was nervous about launching this.
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She is all about loving kind of your body and every kind of form of your body.
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But belly fat is the devil.
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How involved are you in the conception of all these?
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Oh, involved in every every detail.
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We have a medical
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for
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You are so hyper focused on what you put in your body around the time that you re having a baby and while pregnant.
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And so for Courtney, she just, it made so much sense.
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She s been taking prenatal prenatals for years and every time she would take a prenatal, her doctors would say, Oh, you don t have enough of this in it or this in it.
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So she solved that problem.
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And what s your favorite launch that you ve done, Phil?
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Oh, so hard.
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I mean, I think in fragrance, like Crème Couture, which is our croissant fragrance, has done so well.
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It s gone viral.
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It literally smells like a croissant.
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It s kind of crazy how you can make a fragrance smell like croissant and want to wear it.
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And then Sweet Ash is another fragrance of ours, which you also make into a candle.
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But it has this like really sweet, kind of like earthy, woody notes.
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It s like vanilla in there.
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There s tonka bean, fir balsam.
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It s delicious.
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Look at him with the fragrances.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah, it s like you are romantic about the fragrances.
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I mean, yeah, it s amazing.
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I have to smell this stuff all day long and like all things that we re not releasing, too.
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So like we go and meet with our perfumers uptown and it s like just smell overload.
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We call them smell sessions.
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But it s very, very creative.
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It s very creative.
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It s a lot of fun.
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OK, so your wedding, let s talk about your wedding in L.A.
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first, because I did know that you got married in L.A.
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because Melissa initiated it.
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Talk about that.
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So we actually did two weddings.
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So the I guess like the big wedding was the one in L.A.
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We got married at one of our favorite hotels, the Bel Air Hotel, which is so romantic and a place that we have been lucky enough to spend a lot of time.
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And we work with Mindy Weiss, who is not only like an event planner, but she is a very close friend.
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And the kind of mandate going in was like, I wanted it to feel like a fancy person s living room.
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I wanted it to feel residential, which I know sounds insane, but I don t like the feeling of like a banquet hall.
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I wanted you to walk in and feel like you were in a cozy, chic living room with drapes.
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So we, meanwhile, you re like just wanting to like know about the wedding and I m talking about the decor.
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No, no, no, I love this shit.
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I love this shit.
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This is my favorite thing ever.
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Keep going.
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Okay, you re like, what about the love?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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So that was the mandate going in.
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And we wanted to really have something for our friends, like the wedding.
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And you guys know this.
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The wedding is really something you do for your friends and family.
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Yeah, you re so caught up in it all.
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But it was the most fun that we ve ever had.
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I would spend the money again.
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I had no regrets.
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And I want to do it again in five years.
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I wanted, like, no wedding or, like, a really low-key wedding, and we had two, I felt like, not low-key weddings.
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But it was really amazing.
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Like, both of them were incredible.
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L.A.
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was just, like, stunning.
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And Melissa initiated, is it initiated?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Officiated.
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Officiated.
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No, no, no.
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Same thing.
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Goddammit, I pronounce everything.
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Officiating a wedding s hard.
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No shit.
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Oh, he s going to talk about his experience.
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Go for it.
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No, go for it.
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Go talk to an officiate.
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I have officiated, but I don t think I ll ever do it again.
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He s a little, he s offended that you guys didn t ask him to officiate.
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No, not to give you another compliment, but I feel like you would be a great officiate.
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Oh my god.
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Simon, Simon.
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Can I get a compliment?
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Let me tell you something.
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I had fucking standing ovations growing up.
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I killed it.
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I see that.
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No, because you re giving me Gary V vibes.
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No, no, no.
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But I ll tell you what s hard about officiating a wedding.
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Because at first I went in there and I m like, oh, I have to go and be funny and make it light.
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And then you realize this is someone s most important day.
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And the family s there.
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And the grandma s there.
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It s not about you.
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And it s not about me.
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Which is weird.
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It s like a plot twist.
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I think it s difficult because you have to make it special, but you also don t want it to be so stiff.
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And you want to engage everybody, not just the bride and groom or bride and bride or groom and groom, whatever it is.
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And so, like, I started having a panic going into it.
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You know, it s a lot of pressure.
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It s a lot of pressure.
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And we knew that we wanted a friend to do it, and Melissa was our first, really our only choice.
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And we asked her, we were sitting at, like, Spring Cafe, we asked her, and she did not say yes right away.
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She just kind of froze, and she said, I ll get back to you.
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It s a big decision.
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No, but I respected that.
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She s like, let me go home and think about it.
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And, like, she s like, I want to say yes, but, like, it s a lot of pressure.
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She wanted to make sure it was perfect.
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There was a receiving line for her after she like finished her speech.
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There was a line of people being like, you know, she stole the show.
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She was incredible.
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Every morning.
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This is such a hack.
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OK, so sometimes I don t get to do a meditation because my kids like wake up before me or like I don t have time.
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So I take my son and put him in the stroller and I do her walking meditation.
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And it s 16 minutes and it will change your whole day.
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Her voice is just like so calming.
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Yeah.
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And my son even likes it.
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He s like sitting there like rigamortis bopping along.
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Yeah.
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So Melissa s voice is so like soothing is the word I m looking for.
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And it s like such a great way to start the day.
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So I can only imagine how she would be a fishy.
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Yeah, like imagine her voice like right before you bet to walk down the aisle It was like immediately calmed me and I m such a nervous person I couldn t even sleep like for months leading up to the wedding So just thinking about like having to walk down the aisle and like do my at all essential oils for us and Melissa Yeah, I had a crystal.
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I like felt like so like protected by Melissa It was so it was and I ve known Melissa like I started as an intern Melissa was a cocktail waitress at Marquis We ve known each other for 18 years
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So it was kind of this like full circle moment where she was able to do something for us that was so generous because it was she was everyone was like, it s such a nerve wracking experience.
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But she crashed in the outfit.
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I mean, we were there for the outfit.
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No one s asked me to officiate their wedding.
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You would be phenomenal.
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Your voice is a little bit a little screechy.
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No, I could bring it down.
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You would bring the levity.
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No, the comedy.
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Yeah, the comedy, Michael.
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Little screechy voice.
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You just don t want me to outshine you.
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I don t know if you could.
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Michael s was a 10 out of 10, but so was Melissa s.
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Thrive Market, this is the best hack for mothers everywhere.
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Groceries, but good groceries, like organic groceries delivered straight to your door.
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The best part about Thrive Market, though, is they take all the pain points out.
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So they ve already vetted the food.
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I don t have to go and search.
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I go on there.
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I get my apple cider vinegar.
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I love this in my water in the morning.
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I also get my raw almond butter on there.
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I get my kids snacks.
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So what do you think besides creating, not creating for your critics, is the secret to having a lot of longevity, not just celebrity, but social media?
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Because there s a lot of people who are skyrocketing to fame right now, like out of nowhere, or they re like getting a taste of like this huge push.
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Like what happens afterwards and how do they sort of sustain the attention that they re getting?
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So whatever you re doing, keep doing and stay focused and don t look at other people.
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Do not compare yourself.
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Iterate when you need to, but I think, I think consistency, like the businesses and the brands that are the most successful are the people that just keep going.
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And I think a lot of people get discouraged as do all of us.
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Like I have failed more times than I ve succeeded.
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No one talks about the failures, but the failures are what have allowed me to be successful in new businesses.
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When do both of you feel like you failed?
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Because from the outside looking in, I don t I mean, I don t see that.
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Oh, God, there s like I mean, do you have time?
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Yeah, we have.
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I did an immersive experience called A Human, which looked really successful.
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But I lost I lost some money.
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And when I when I when I launched the experience, I ve launched businesses in beta form that have never seen the light of day that just failed.
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I mean,
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investors that didn t work out that I had to take out of around, like the list goes on and on.
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No one sees the failures, but they kind of exist in your head.
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I think it s good for you to talk about it because I think from the outside looking in, people will see both of your life and they ll say, okay, you ve had every chance you ve been on television.
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You re well connected.
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You re well funded.
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You, you know, um, you have good ideas, you have resources.
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And so I think it s good to talk about the failures because
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to your point, it s not, it s not always a win and it s about continuing to try different things and keep going.
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Right.
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I think like people, what they ll do is they ll say, well, I don t have what Simon and Phil have.
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So I m never going to try, but you ve had all these things and still had bumps.
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Right.
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Right.
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And I think a lot of people, they, they quit before they even start by just telling themselves they don t have maybe some of the resources or the connection or yeah.
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And even with the connections, sometimes things can still go wrong.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then, of course, lightning in a bottle, like there is always a little bit of luck.
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Right.
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There is like the day that I called Lizzie Grubin s office, someone picked up and thought that I was crazy and funny and agreed to have me come in.
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And just so happened the day that I came in, Jonathan was there and he said, oh, like we should sit down and have an interview with you.
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Like you seem like a real person.
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And so we have both been lucky even meeting Phil, like all of these things.
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I have never felt stronger professionally because of my relationship with Phil.
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I m so focused on the things that matter, like our personal life, our family and our business.
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There s no distractions.
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He seems like a good husband.
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Me or Simon?
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Both of you guys.
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Yeah, Phil s a great husband.
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Who s a better husband?
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Phil.
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Oh, sorry.
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Phil s kinder.
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Phil s a great husband.
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I m a better husband than you are a wife.
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Are you fucking serious?
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No, I fully am with you.
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You think you re a better husband than I am wife?
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Yeah, 100%.
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Why?
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I want to hear this.
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I just think that I m... He s dead serious.
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I m dead serious.
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I m not saying I love you more, you love me more.
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You love me more.
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I m saying that I just feel like I bring 110% all the time.
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What do I bring?
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Like 90.
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That s untrue.
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I think the difference is that your percent you see, mine is seamless.
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Wait, okay.
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Gun to your head.
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If you had to take an unbiased panel of people that don t know us and they get to observe us for... They re going to say you, but that s because I m a sleeper cell.
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I am the alligator that you can t see the mouth with the eyes in the lake.
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Because I ll give you one.
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When you come home, I always make sure the house has every checked vibe you could possibly have.
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The fire s roaring.
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The candles are lit.
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The house is clean.
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The bossa nova s playing.
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The kids are running around with smiles on their face.
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It s very idyllic, the life that I ve curated for you.
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If you re being dead honest.
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I m being dead honest.
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In front of a group.
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Living for this.
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How much are you doing that for me?
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And how much are you doing that for yourself?
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It s a mix.
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It s a mix.
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It s a mix.
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It s a chick s mixed bath.
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I m doing it.
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Your dad came over to my house and you know what he said to me?
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He woke up every morning to Spanish guitar.
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And he said, I love the way you run your house.
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And I said... That s such a compliment.
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Because your dad saw the seamlessness of how I am in the marriage.
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Okay.
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Once again, I m asking you, unbiased, if you were to judge.
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You would be judged initially, and then people would get to know us really well, and it would be me.
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That s my honest opinion.
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Like the fact that you plan to travel already, like I m a little bit biased.
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Oh, I forgot about that.
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Yeah, the trip planning is pretty key.
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OK, I ve never booked a flight in my entire relationship since I was 21 years old.
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We had Steph Shep on the show the other day, and we were talking, right?
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I know you re friends.
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Oh, love family.
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And she was talking about what she does for her husband, how she packs for him and unpacks.
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And then I realized yesterday when we landed here, I unpacked for you, and I packed for you.
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Yeah, that s true.
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Phil packs for me.
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You pack everything.
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I booked the flights.
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I pack everything.
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I am the director of vibes.
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Yeah So when when Simon comes home the vibes are immaculate Immaculate all day long on a level that I wish I could live like tell me the vibes because you are a vibe curator So what s the vibes?
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It s kind of like what you just described.
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It s like candles are lit, like the house has to be clean.
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Like I can t have any clutter anywhere.
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Like I m kind of Marie Kondo.
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It s immaculate on a level that you cannot.
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It s like a showroom.
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I need to know a couple of questions.
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What kind of music s playing?
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Oh my gosh.
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Well, Simon s like a little bit music sensitive.
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So during the work week, there can t be any music.
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Oh, there can t be any music.
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So what I ll do is I ll put in headphones and like he s yelling at me and can t get a hold of me.
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That s EMF on his ears though.
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Do you really want that in his brain?
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I cannot hear it.
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I cannot have the background noise when I m on a call.
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Can you have a light Nordstrom s piano jazz?
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Yes, but that s not what I m getting.
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I m getting like Becky Hill at full volume.
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What s Becky Hill?
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It s Becky Hill.
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No, no, no, no.
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It doesn t even matter.
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It s Becky, I love you.
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How did we get there?
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It s just too loud for me.
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I need complete silence.
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I can t do horns in the morning.
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No horn music.
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Oh, horns.
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What do you guys play?
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Let me let me let me let me like a trumpet.
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This is the move.
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You got to go to sleep to five to eight hertz.
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Those are not music, it s frequencies.
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So your body is releasing anxiety and energies as you sleep.
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Five to eight hertz needs to be on every single night you sleep, hands down.
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That s like, you have to.
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Then you wake up.
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When I wake up, I d love a classical saxophone, maybe, really light.
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No, that s for the evening.
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No, no, no.
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It s the saxophone, it s a soft, it s called gentle saxophone.
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Then throughout the day, a light bossa nova with with no words you can t do for the workday.
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It s good for your flow.
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I m taking notes.
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Yeah, take notes.
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I m taking notes.
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And then as you as you get later into the night, a Hermanos Gutierrez, which is like a what is it, Michael?
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It s like a it s like kind of like a vibe, like an incense.
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I m sure you pronounced that completely wrong.
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I did.
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It s kind of like it s kind of like a Spanish guitar.
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But the point is, is like it s giving vibes throughout the day to walk you through your day like a candle.
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No, but the point was to say is that the person that sets the vibes does bring a lot to the marriage.
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So Phil and I bring a lot to the marriage because we re curating your life.
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Yes, I m saying you bring a lot to the marriage, but you re not the best in the marriage.
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I am.
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Okay.
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So serious.
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No, I m dead serious.
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Okay.
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I go above and beyond.
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Okay.
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I m the best because I m letting you have that smoke.
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And also what you do, Lauren is notorious.
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She ll come to the house.
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She ll make a disgusting mess all over the place.
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Cause I like, I like making a mess and cleaning it up.
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And then she will clean it all up.
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And then she ll look at me and be like, aren t you grateful?
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And I m like, you just literally cleaned up your own thing.
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It s your own mess.
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I love it.
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It s your own mess.
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No, I love you.
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Love you Guys everyone s the best in their own special way.
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What what is the secret to your relationship?
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What is the secret sauce?
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What do you what do you guys both bring to the relationship that you think make it work any tips for couples out there?
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I mean, maybe I could say what you bring and you can see what I bring.
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Okay better like Simon.
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This is dicey
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Good luck.
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No, I think, honestly, the key is like Simon brings like a ton of, he s got the best sense of humor.
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Like he s the funniest person I ve ever met in my life.
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And like, you know, you think you get tired, I d get tired of it like eight years in, but like he keeps me on my toes.
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Like even if I m annoyed or angry or mad, like you just say the right thing that just like made me laugh.
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Like I cannot say mad at him ever.
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That s so nice.
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That s really, really nice.
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Thanks, Bill.
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You re welcome.
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I think that Bill, and this is going to sound cheesy, but it s true.
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Bill has the values of the person growing up that I saw, maybe in my dad.
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He s just a good person.
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There s not a bad bone in his body, and I love that.
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I m so attracted to the human being that he is.
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I can be a little moody sometimes.
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No, but you re not.
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Like, he s just innately, like, interested in surrounding himself with, like, nice, happy people.
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Like, there is no ulterior motive.
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I think that s a huge compliment coming from Simon because he has been around so much nightmares of, yeah, Hollywood, like PR.
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And I think that s a nice compliment coming from him, especially.
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Yeah.
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Love you.
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Hopefully you have a list of things to fucking tell me about because that we re running out of time.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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Before you go if people had to start with one of each of your products What are you starting with and I m I m just gonna say my two favorites real quick The one that I would recommend is let me focus.
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That s the one that I ate the entire you left it for us It s your media.
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I ate the entire bottle.
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It s so good.
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I have two or three at a time.
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Is that okay?
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Yeah, it s fine.
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Okay.
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I also though really do love how the vagina one tastes and
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Purr is amazing.
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And I m going to be purring all night from it.
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Yeah, have a few more.
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Michael wants me to, like, ingest the whole bottle.
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Yeah, perfect.
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Could be the first one.
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And then for the candle, the croissant, you can t go wrong.
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But also your pumpkin collab that you did with Half-Baked Harvest was the huge one, was in my house for so long.
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It was the perfect burning candle.
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So those are my recs.
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What do you guys recommend?
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For Lemmy, for me, I m probably Lemmy Chill and Lemmy Curb and Capsules because I have been battling a sugar issue for so long that it s finally stopped my cravings.
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For Sniff, like Half-Baked Harvest, the pumpkin smash candle is just all the cozy fall vibes.
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But there s another candle called Instant Karma, which is like one of my personal favorites.
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And it s like, she s perfect.
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She s perfect.
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It s like spicy, a little bit of pear sweetness.
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It s just like, it s amazing.
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You just sold me on that.
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Can we do a giveaway with both of the products?
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Obviously.
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Let s do a big, like, what should we do?
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Like a big basket of... Yeah, whatever you want.
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A marriage between Simon and Phil s brands.
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Yeah, I love it.
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OK, so we re going to give away a basket of Lemmy and also sniff.
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All you have to do is follow both brands on Instagram and tell us your favorite part of this eccentric, colorful episode on my latest Instagram at Lauren Bostic.
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And then if you guys want to do a code, we didn t even talk about this.
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Yeah, sure do.
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Can we do code skinny on both?
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100% 100% done.
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I m going to go shop my I m going to go get some vagina gummies.
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You re going to be stuck up.
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You re going to be calling me the best wife scales a little bit between the candle and let me prayer.
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I m going to be done.
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My eyes are really going to be stunning.
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Where can everyone find both of you guys?
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at Simon Huck on Instagram at PIP the RIP on Instagram and at sniff doc.
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Well, www.sniff.co s n i f and let me live.com
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And this was so fun to do with both of you because you guys have never done an interview together and this was fun to get both sides.
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I feel like it was a little bit therapeutic.
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I don t know.
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Simon was like nervous around me or something.
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Yeah, we should be couples therapist.
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Now.
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We re going to go get the fried olives.
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Oh my gosh, do a fried olive candle.
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No, actually, honestly, you should do something like a pickle.
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Yeah.
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Two things before you go, you can watch us now on YouTube.
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So you can go on YouTube, search The Skinny Confidential and watch our entire episodes on your computer or TV.
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Also, you should know Michael and I are doing a him and her newsletter.
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So basically, it s a him and her tip of the day, five days a week.
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And the tips are very specific, as you can imagine.
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And then we also have a monthly favorites.
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So basically, we collect all our monthly favorites, everything we ve bought and used and tried and put it in one monthly newsletter for you.
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To sign up for that, go to shopspinnyconfidential.com and sign up for the newsletter.
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Thank you so much for listening, and we ll see you next time.