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Hey folks, it s Lyle here.
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actually listening and making this whole thing worthwhile.
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So just a quick thank you for listening.
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And also wanted to say that if you ever have any comments or feedback or anything about the podcast, you can email me at lyleforeverandeveratgmail.com.
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I can t promise I ll respond to everyone, but I do try and read them all.
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So thank you again.
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And with that said, let s get into the episode.
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Hello?
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Hello.
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Who is this?
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I don t know, who is this?
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It s the Gecko guy.
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Hey Gecko guy.
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You texted me and you said, I m kinda drunk at work.
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A little bit.
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That was it.
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That was it.
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Where do you work?
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Where are you?
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What are you doing?
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I work in a middle school.
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I m a cleaner.
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Yeah.
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All right, you re at are you It s like well, all right.
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I mean, I ll say this it s right now.
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It s It s almost 10 p.m.
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So wherever you are in America, it can t be any earlier than 10 p.m.
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All right, what are you doing?
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Go ahead you talk.
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No, no, no, no.
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Yeah, what do you say?
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Okay, you re drunk at your job at a middle school.
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Yes.
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That doesn t sound good when you say it.
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It doesn t.
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What do you do at the middle school?
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I cleaned shitters and desks in vacuum.
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Okay.
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You know what?
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Can I say something controversial?
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I think, um, obviously, you know, it s not good if you re a teacher or a principal or whatever.
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No, of course.
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Yeah.
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But, but, but I, if you re a janitor, you should totally be able to get plastered.
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Why not?
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That s what I m saying, dude.
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That s what I m saying.
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Yeah.
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I mean, what are you really, what are you really doing?
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No one cares if you re drunk on the job, you re a janitor.
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There s not even any kids there right now.
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No, no, it was 10 PM.
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They re all asleep or whatever.
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Okay.
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Playing video games or playing Fortnite.
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Um, what are you, what are you drinking?
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I m, I m upset at what I m drinking.
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I picked up, it s called Bahama Mala, but it s made by Barstool.
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I don t really fuck with Barstool like that.
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Why d you buy it then?
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Cause I go into the gas station and I find the drink with the highest alcohol percentage and this was it.
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Was it like 10% or whatever?
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Well, um, what s your name again?
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I don t know.
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What is my name?
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Your name is Danny.
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Danny, this is the part of the call where I ask you, are you doing all right?
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Am I?
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I don t know, bro.
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Well, you re drunk at 10 p.m.
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cleaning shit on the middle school floor.
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It doesn t sound so good, bro.
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Um, but that s okay.
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That s okay.
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I don t think there s, I don t think you should be ashamed.
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Um, maybe a little bit.
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I mean, how are you doing for real?
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Are you all right?
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Uh, hanging in there.
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How long have you been, um, at this middle school for not today, but you know, in general, I think since July, I think it started mid July.
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It s been a little bit of a go.
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Um, what made you go into this, this career?
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Well, I mean, I was in college for like computer science and stuff, but then, uh, COVID happened and I, uh, I developed problems with, uh, substances.
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And then I didn t really finish that for about a year.
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Getting drunk in the middle school at 10 p.m.
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Are you a big, and now are you a big, do you get drunk every day?
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No, no, no, no way.
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No way.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So it sounds like you have yourself some hard and fast rules, by the way, you answered that question.
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Well, I mean, boundaries, we say.
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Bend those times, I think.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Yeah, that happens.
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Yeah.
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Are you still dealing with substance abuse issues?
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No, I think I think I got them in check.
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I had a good nine month run of nothing going on with any of that shit.
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Pretty cool.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Well, let s go back to the question of if you re doing OK.
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And sure.
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On paper.
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drunk on paper at a middle school cleaning up shit traditionally you know whatever but that s i don t care i don t really care about that i mean how do you feel how do you feel this is all all of this is subjective how do i i don t know how i feel that s the thing i don t know
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Okay.
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How drunk are you right now?
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Give me a 1 to 10.
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Oh, like a 5.
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Not too bad.
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That s not too bad.
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You really are kind of drunk out of middle school right now.
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Yup.
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That s exactly how it is.
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Doesn t that, does that like impede your ability to, like do you have a quota of like stuff you gotta clean before you get out of there?
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Yeah, so it s, there s
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Two floors in a basement, but, uh, the other cleaner called off today.
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So I got overtime.
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So I m here till like two in the morning.
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It s just you.
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It s me and one other guy who s in the basement right now.
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And I m up on the third floor or the second floor, however you look at it.
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Does he know that you are drunk talking to a gecko?
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I don t know, but I think if he did, that d be kind of funny, you know?
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I m not going to disagree with that.
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He s like 55 years old.
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He goes to the bar every Thursday.
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He might be drunk too, I don t know.
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Well, Danny.
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I don t like that name.
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I gave you the opportunity to give me a name.
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Yeah, but I don t want to do that.
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Well then, alright, you get the name that I give to you.
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And I accept that, I take that.
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Danny, let me think here.
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Alright, well I ll ask you this at least.
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You texted me.
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I do this thing where people text me and I call them back.
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Was there anything in particular that you wanted to talk about?
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Not really, no.
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I honestly didn t really think you d call me.
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I think I texted you like a week or so ago.
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I sent you a picture of a cat or something.
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I didn t really think you d call me.
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What are you going to do when you get off work?
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What am I going to do when I get off work?
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I don t know.
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Probably smoke a little weed, play some Counter-Strike, I think.
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Sounds nice.
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You know, you know, Danny, you re not doing too bad.
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You know, you re not doing too bad.
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Yeah.
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I guess so.
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You re all right.
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You got your, you re all right.
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I m hanging in there.
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I mean, don t overdo it.
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Of course.
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No, no way.
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No way.
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I ve already overdone it.
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I m done with that.
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What s on the horizon for you, Danny?
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Well, what is on the horizon for me?
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I don t know.
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I guess we ll see.
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I m not sure.
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Did you go to this middle school when you were a kid?
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I, there was one, there was one closer to where I lived and I went to that one instead of this one.
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So there s two of them and they merged into like a junior high.
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You know I ll do Danny I ll take I ll take a couple questions from the chat
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If the chat has any questions that they want to ask you.
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What is it you re drinking again?
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I don t even want to say it because I don t want to give them like any credit.
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Someone asked what s the craziest thing you found while cleaning up?
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That s the thing is I used to work in an amusement park and I d find some crazy shit there.
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I d fucking peel raccoons off of fucking roller coasters and shit.
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But this, this is kind of tame compared to that.
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I don t really find anything cool.
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Like, fucking, I think the coolest thing I found was a, uh, a Gengar in a recycle bin.
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You found a Gengar?
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Like, uh, it was a car- it was a Pokemon card?
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Yeah, Pokemon.
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Yeah, that s probably the coolest thing I ve found so far, I think.
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Um, multiple people are asking me if you ever flirt with the teachers.
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No, the teachers hate me.
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That s the funniest part.
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They don t like me at all.
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Which is funny, because I...
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I go in their rooms and I clean up after all their kids and they leave a fucking mess.
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It s like fifth and sixth graders.
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They leave a fucking mess.
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Why do you, why do you think they hate you?
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They don t.
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I say hi to them.
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I m like, Oh, have a good night.
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They don t say anything to me.
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They just walk by and they leave.
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And I m not even drunk when I say that to them.
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I just say, Hey, have a good night.
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Um,
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Is there any school drama that we should know about?
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Uh, no, there s one kid that draws really cool shit on their desk, though.
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That makes me sad when I have to wipe it off.
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They draw, like, cool, like, eyeballs and, like, spiderwebs and shit on, like, the corners of their desk.
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That makes me sad.
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Oh.
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Well, let him know he should just carve it in, because then he can t do anything about it.
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I honestly, I thought about, like, leaving them a note on their desk and be like, hey, dude, put this on paper, bro.
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You re talented.
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You got, like,
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You re good at this.
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Don t don t make me wipe this off every night.
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That s that d be cool.
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That s like a cool.
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That s it.
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You d be like a fun drunk mentor guy.
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I don t think I m a very good mentor.
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Well, Danny, again, I know you don t have an answer to this question, but I hope you re doing all right.
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I hope you are, too, Gecko.
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Yeah, man.
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Well... This was fun.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Uh... Yeah, don t trash public restrooms.
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Like, what the fuck is your problem?
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Why do people do that?
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It s a fucking bathroom.
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Why are you throwing shit around?
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I get the feeling that when you re done with your shift, you re about to go trash the fuck out of a Taco Bell bathroom.
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No, I m actually allergic to Taco Bell.
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I can t eat that.
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Have a good night, Danny.
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You too, Gecko.
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This is nice.
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Thank you.
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Hello?
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Hi.
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Hi.
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What s your name?
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My name is Vanessa.
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Vanessa, what s going on?
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How s life?
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I m going to say right now it s pretty good.
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Can you turn that TV off?
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I don t know what you got going on back there.
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Yeah, let me go find a private area.
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That way I can speak freely.
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I don t have people eyeballing me.
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Yes.
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We, I, we must have this conversation in front of thousands of people privately.
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As long as no, I don t know anybody, so I m all right with that, but here I don t want people to know.
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Understandable.
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And then I play.
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It s cause I m at the store right now too.
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You re at the store.
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Yeah.
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What store?
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I m at Home Depot.
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Okay.
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Like they re blasting everything.
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Okay.
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Where are you going?
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Where, where, where are we going to have this private conversation at Home Depot?
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Oh, I m going to go to the garden area.
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They don t have the music as loud from what I can sense right now.
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But, um, yeah.
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Let s talk at the garden area of Home Depot.
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I don t know why that I struggled so hard to say area just now.
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Yeah.
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Um, where do you, where do I, where should I start?
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Um, so I would say about like three years ago, my ex husband and I separated kind of, I left them pretty much in another country.
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And then I came back by myself.
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I took everything out of the house that was just mine, but I didn t like take anything of value.
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I just took my stuff.
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So for the longest time, I had tried to work things out.
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He wasn t wanting to work things out.
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And then we were still kind of hooking up here and there.
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And then I found out Christmas Day that he got back with his first ex-wife.
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That was like devastated.
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I was crying.
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My parents were like pissed.
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They re like, you re a dummy.
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I don t know why you still wanted to work things out with him.
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So he never really told me.
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I found out through his
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cousin s Instagram because I was still following all his family.
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So I thought like, what is she doing there?
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Like, I thought they hated each other.
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So I was super bitter about that.
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So like fast forward to maybe a month ago, I was like, I m going to test the waters because he was hitting me up here like flirty text messages.
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And I knew that she even like moved into the house, moved in her kids into the house, everything.
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So I like sent a flirty text and he like replied right away, was super into it.
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So I was like, I pretty much said like, Hey, do you want to hook up?
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And at first he was like, no, like I m already in a relationship and I don t want to hurt you.
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You know, the basic things that they say.
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And then, um, pretty much I had sent him like a super like dirty picture and he was like, yeah, I m for it.
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So we met up at a grocery store.
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We had sex in the car.
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And then that was it.
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I was like completely content because I was like, I knew that I could still sleep with you and you re with your ex-wife, supposedly living this happy life, but you re still willing to sleep with me.
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I was like, I think I made the right choice by leaving you.
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And it was like kind of revenge to her to be like, oh, now we re even and I don t really care anymore.
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But I guess I was like, is that a bad thing that I did?
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Should I have not done it?
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So I just moved on and forget about it.
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Okay.
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So I m going to, I m going to, I m going to recap this situation.
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So to make sure I understand it.
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Um, so you were married to this guy and then you, you, you divorced him.
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He divorced you.
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Yeah, we was mutual at the time.
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Okay, you got a divorce.
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He got back together with his, uh, first ex-wife.
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Yes.
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Um, and then his ex-wife, who was then, did he remarry his first ex-wife?
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No, I think they re just dating or they re like official.
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I haven t really poked around.
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And then, so he moves in with her and her kids.
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Yes.
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And then, um,
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you find out about this.
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So you send him a picture of your boobs.
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Pretty much.
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And then he s like, I like your boobs.
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And then you guys have sex in his car in the parking lot of a grocery store.
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Yeah.
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And then do you ever talk to him after that?
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I did.
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I was like, Hey, that was fun.
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Hit me up if you want it like if she doesn t meet your needs.
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But obviously I was
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I really didn t act on it afterwards.
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I was like, oh, I already had my phone, like I m fine.
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But then he had texted me like a day, a week, two weeks later saying, hey, I got in trouble, she found out.
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And I was like panicking.
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I was like, oh crap, like I shouldn t even care.
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But I guess later on, I talked to him.
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I was like, well, what d you find out?
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He s like, well, she found out we were kind of talking here and there.
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She doesn t know we hooked up.
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But, um, I have to lay low, but for the meantime, but I m willing to continue this.
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Um, and your, well, you said you re freaking out.
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What are you afraid is going to happen?
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I think I was just like, Oh, would she like come after me, try to fight me?
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Like kind of things like that.
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Not that I would be afraid, but like, we do have a daughter in common, so I didn t want her to take it out on my daughter to be like, Oh, your mom s a whore.
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I m going to be super mean to you because of your mom.
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So you have a kid with this guy?
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Yeah.
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And what s the deal with the kid?
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Who s the kid with?
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We have her half and half.
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So half of the week she s with me, half of the week he s with her or with him.
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So we have 50-50.
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How old s this kid?
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She is five Wow geez And he had this and he has kids also with the woman Yeah, another kid in common.
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He is I believe like maybe 12 These kids are gonna have a whole podcast about all the shit you guys are doing when they get older yeah
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SPEAKER_01
Right?
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SPEAKER_01
Like, hey, that kind of sounds like what s-her-face s voice.
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SPEAKER_00
Um, man.
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SPEAKER_00
All right.
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SPEAKER_00
So, uh, and are you, what about, are you, you don t have a boyfriend or anything like that or, or a first husband or whatever?
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SPEAKER_01
No, but I did recently talk to someone like, and I m kind of, it s moving towards that.
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SPEAKER_01
So eventually I did text him like a couple, like a week ago being like, Hey, I don t want to continue this anymore.
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SPEAKER_01
Not that it was.
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SPEAKER_01
but I kind of just ended everything.
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SPEAKER_01
And you can tell like his ego was a little bruised because he just replied, okay, I think that s the best.
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SPEAKER_01
Whereas before he would like write paragraphs, we would be texting back and forth.
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SPEAKER_01
But after I told him I didn t want to continue after that first time, like you can tell his ego was bruised.
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SPEAKER_00
Now, but this guy, this guy is like, he s kind of in your life forever no matter what, because you have a kid together.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, and that was my other thing.
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SPEAKER_01
I m like, hey, do I really wanna do this to where I have to, I m sure eventually I would have to meet her.
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SPEAKER_01
Do I wanna have that awkwardness all the time or do I wanna be cordial with it?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, I mean, her finding out that you guys had sex is definitely going to make the pickups and drop-offs less enjoyable for everyone involved.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but that s the other thing like he hasn t picked up our daughter like for the last year.
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SPEAKER_01
He ll help him like his sister or somebody else.
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SPEAKER_01
So I don t ever see him during drop off.
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SPEAKER_01
So or her as a matter of fact, because I had told him like, I never want to see her ever again or around my daughter.
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SPEAKER_01
This far he s respected it to a point.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_01
I m not constantly watching or monitoring but
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I know eventually she censors something because he always has to delete his phone, like our conversations and be like, Hey, can you just text me?
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SPEAKER_01
Okay.
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SPEAKER_01
Do this.
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SPEAKER_01
And I m like, all right.
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SPEAKER_01
Like, I m like, you re a kind of shitty guy.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know why I was so in love with you.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, um, I mean, fuck, what is this?
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SPEAKER_00
So you re asking like,
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SPEAKER_00
I m not, I don t like, I don t do, uh, I don t do, am I the asshole?
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, I guess sometimes I do, but, um, are you saying like, what should you do?
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SPEAKER_01
I guess my, what I ve had like conversations through with like my therapist and my, my girlfriends are like, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
What s your therapist have to say about this?
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SPEAKER_01
She was disappointed in me.
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SPEAKER_01
Cause she was like, you were doing so good.
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SPEAKER_01
She was like, but I understand like,
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SPEAKER_01
He s going to always be in your life.
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SPEAKER_01
So it s kind of hard to just cut and dry, but you should have respected his and her relationship, even though you don t like her.
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SPEAKER_01
And, you know, she kind of came in between you guys.
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SPEAKER_01
Um, but she s like, you re you, you should know better and you shouldn t have done that.
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But I understand.
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SPEAKER_00
That sounds like something a healthy professional would say.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
So she s like, are you going to continue it?
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SPEAKER_01
I was like, no, I think I ve had my one and done, and I feel better about it.
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SPEAKER_01
And I do secretly still want her to find out that we did that, but I m not going to like force it or like send her text messages.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, hold on.
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SPEAKER_00
Why do you, why do you secretly, why do you secretly want her to find out?
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SPEAKER_01
I think it s because right when we divorced, like she right away, like was hitting him up, trying to kind of wedge that wedge between us even bigger, kind of like, Oh, she s such a bitch or this and that.
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SPEAKER_01
Like, Oh, you deserve better.
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Like I ll treat you better than the first time.
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SPEAKER_00
So I was like, what s so cool about this guy that everyone wants to fuck him in his car?
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_01
I mean, it was good, but I don t think it at this point, I don t think it s worth my mental health because then afterwards I d be crying.
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SPEAKER_01
I m like, I don t know why I like this douchebag so much.
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SPEAKER_01
He, he was an asshole at the end.
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SPEAKER_01
Like now I realize that, but he, he was pretty successful and I think that s what she liked in him.
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Cause he had like his own car or like multiple cars, had a big, nice house.
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Like we had a nice house together and she was living in like an apartment with three other people and four kids and a grown dog.
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SPEAKER_01
So, um, I think she saw the spot.
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SPEAKER_00
All right.
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SPEAKER_00
You talk to your therapist, you talk to your, your girlfriends, what d your girlfriends say?
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SPEAKER_01
Uh, she was super mad.
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SPEAKER_01
She was like, are you serious?
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SPEAKER_01
You re such a dumb bitch.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know why you did that.
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SPEAKER_01
But she wasn t happy that I did it, which is like, but I get it, but don t you re giving him a bigger head.
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SPEAKER_01
Like you re giving him a bigger ego to know that he still has you wrapped around his finger.
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SPEAKER_00
How many kids are involved in this?
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SPEAKER_01
So between him and I, we have one daughter between him and the ex wife.
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There is one in common.
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SPEAKER_01
And then she remarried and had four other kids with the other ex-husband.
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SPEAKER_01
So there s a total of like six kids living under his roof now.
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SPEAKER_00
That s a fucking whole mess, dude.
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SPEAKER_00
Geez.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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So I m like, is this like a silver lining where I m like, ah, I think I left her in a good time.
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SPEAKER_01
I m not too old to find someone better for good.
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SPEAKER_01
You know, but I was like, I don t know.
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SPEAKER_01
I feel like maybe I shouldn t have done that cause karma s gonna bite me back in the ass.
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SPEAKER_00
Um, and this other, well, like who s and the kid, they re all, these are all that kind of, these are all young, like little kids.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh yeah.
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They re under like 15.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, um, I mean, I wouldn t do it again.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t think.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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I hope that I can fight the urge to want to do it again.
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But so far I ve been good.
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SPEAKER_01
I think the other guy is kind of keeping me busy and wanting to stay away from that guy.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, what are you, what s your name?
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SPEAKER_00
Vanessa.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, what do you want?
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SPEAKER_00
What do you, what do you want, Vanessa?
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I think I would be, be alright just to kind of put all this behind me and be like, yeah, I did that once.
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SPEAKER_01
I was stupid.
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I kind of blew his head up to where I was kind of teasing him and he knew that he still had me.
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SPEAKER_01
But I mean, eventually I would like to be like, I don t know what I found him, but be friendly, like a good co-partnership rather than like, I still hate his gut.
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SPEAKER_01
And the other girl, like I want to be over the betrayal I felt when he got back with her.
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SPEAKER_00
Um, I mean, I think if that s the goal, then yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Uh,
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If if that s the goal I would I would stay away from the grocery store parking lot And pet marks, too Are you I don t know if we cut this part out of the call or not, but are you still at Home Depot?
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SPEAKER_01
Oh?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I m just in the parking lot now So I have like people walking by and they re like kind of staring now that I m watching people cut trees Because we have they have the tree lot right now
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SPEAKER_00
What s the tree law?
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SPEAKER_01
So here where I m from, they don t have like, we re like Oregon or like Washington where you can go out and cut your own tree.
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SPEAKER_01
They already like pre-cut to a point.
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SPEAKER_01
We just, they trim it down for you guys or like whoever buys them to make sure that it fits in your car and everything.
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So I m just watching that action.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, I m glad that we could end this very spicy story with, um, the most boring thing ever.
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SPEAKER_01
right yeah i was kind of shocked i was like uh is this real is this really happening like i m freaking out right now um
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SPEAKER_00
Well, uh, Vanessa, um, is there anything else that you want to say to the people of the, or just about any of this stuff at all?
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SPEAKER_00
Well, let s do this.
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SPEAKER_00
Let me, uh, let me see if the chat has any questions before we get out of here.
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SPEAKER_00
Chat, any questions from the chat about, um, uh, the ongoing affair or Oregon tree laws?
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SPEAKER_00
We ll take questions about either one.
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SPEAKER_00
Um,
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Let s see here.
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How old is this person?
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They want to know how old you are, Vanessa.
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I am 31.
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So I m a little old to be doing this.
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Someone wants to know how was Vanessa s relationship with her father.
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Uh, I think I, if anything, I ve, I think I have more mommy issues because I still actively want it.
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Like I, apparently I have like this codependency where I want to fix everything, but my dad was always around.
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Like, he s not a bad guy.
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Like, so I don t know where, but it s like in the Hispanic culture, you have like that machismo and the like, Oh, I m bigger, better.
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So I think that s kind of where they re similar, but I have a good relationship with my dad.
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SPEAKER_00
Uh, someone said, was the car sex even good?
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SPEAKER_01
Oh yeah, it was.
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SPEAKER_01
It was.
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We even had some guy that was cleaning there, like the parking lot.
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Like he was trying to like, he saw obviously like the car moving, so he kind of tried to look.
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And then I remember he s like, I can t.
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And I m like, why?
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He s like, there s a guy looking into the car right now.
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So I like peeked and I was like, it s fine.
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SPEAKER_01
You have blackout windows.
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Like nobody s going to look.
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SPEAKER_01
Keep going.
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SPEAKER_00
And then we have someone someone said as an Oregon Wasn t as an Oregonian an Oregonian.
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I love being able to cut my own Christmas trees.
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SPEAKER_01
I Think that this whole tree lot defeats the whole purpose like it robs you of that experience Is there anything else Is there anything else when I say to the people the computer before we go Vanessa?
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No, I appreciate you
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giving me the time to vent about everything and not making me feel such a shitty person and everyone in the chat.
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SPEAKER_01
I hope everyone kinda doesn t do what I do and keep moving forward instead of looking bad or back or trying to get revenge on something that really isn t worth it, as I see now.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, go ahead and get yourself out of the... You ve spent far too much time in parking lots, Vanessa.
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SPEAKER_00
You should go home.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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I m gonna go home right now.
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SPEAKER_00
All right, take care, Vanessa.
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You too, bye.
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SPEAKER_00
I wonder if the ex shops at Lowe s.
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SPEAKER_01
Lyle.
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SPEAKER_00
Hello?
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SPEAKER_01
Is this really happening?
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SPEAKER_01
Thank you for calling me back.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, what s your name?
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SPEAKER_01
Melissa, with a Z. Melissa.
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SPEAKER_00
With a Z. Do you pronounce the Z?
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SPEAKER_00
Do you go, Melissa?
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SPEAKER_01
So, I m Mexican.
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SPEAKER_01
And when you say it with the accent, the Z sounds.
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SPEAKER_00
You can hear the Z. Am I allowed to do that, or will people get mad at me?
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SPEAKER_01
No.
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SPEAKER_01
It s cultural appropriation if you do it.
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SPEAKER_01
No, of course.
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SPEAKER_00
Malisa.
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SPEAKER_00
That was Italian.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
No, that s more Italian.
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SPEAKER_00
Malisa.
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SPEAKER_01
My mom says it s Malisa.
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SPEAKER_00
Bella Malisa.
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SPEAKER_00
Bella Malisa.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Che cazzo, Malisa.
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SPEAKER_00
Ay, ay, ay.
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SPEAKER_00
Melissa, what s up?
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SPEAKER_00
How s life?
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SPEAKER_01
All right, that s Italian.
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SPEAKER_01
All right, I m gonna stop you there.
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SPEAKER_01
What s going on?
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SPEAKER_01
Not much.
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SPEAKER_01
I didn t think you were going to call me back.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh my God, I m shaking.
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SPEAKER_00
Melissa, what s up?
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SPEAKER_00
What do you want to talk about today?
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SPEAKER_01
Well, you know, I sent you a couple of text messages, so I don t know which one made you want to call me.
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SPEAKER_01
You want to talk about our day?
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SPEAKER_01
We can talk about our date.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, you said, yeah, you sent me a text and you said, I want to talk about your laugh.
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SPEAKER_01
Yes.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh my God.
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SPEAKER_01
Wow.
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SPEAKER_01
You have the cutest freaking laugh ever.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know if it s a giggle.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know if it s your legit laugh.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know if you re just- it s a nervous little... It s the best.
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SPEAKER_01
So, I think I gotta figure out how to make you laugh.
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SPEAKER_00
Thanks.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, um... That s cool.
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SPEAKER_00
I thought you thought this was- that s very sweet.
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SPEAKER_00
I thought it was gonna be a bad thing.
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SPEAKER_00
I thought you were gonna say that it was- that it sounded bad.
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SPEAKER_01
I ll beat- I ll beat anyone up who talks crap about the geck.
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SPEAKER_00
You don t have to do that.
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SPEAKER_00
I ll stick my cat on them.
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SPEAKER_00
Let s see, you also said, uh, I want to talk about my age gap relationship.
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SPEAKER_01
Ooh, oh my god, my boyfriend s here too.
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SPEAKER_01
He just made a barf face.
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SPEAKER_01
Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
Everyone in the chat- Now, hold on, now hold on, now hold on, hold on, hold on.
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SPEAKER_00
Melissa, I m very curious about this, because it says here that you are 27 years old.
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SPEAKER_00
Yes.
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SPEAKER_00
So, I m very curious.
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SPEAKER_00
You re either dating, uh, an 18 year old- It s legal.
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SPEAKER_00
Or a 53 year old.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, that s that s close.
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SPEAKER_01
Okay.
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Those are your guesses.
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He is 64 37 year age gap.
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And before Yes, I m going to say this also, it s not a sugar baby relationship.
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That s what people always assume right away.
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But we ve been together for four and a half years.
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SPEAKER_01
I just I did the math the other day four and a half years together.
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We live together.
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SPEAKER_01
We vacation together.
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SPEAKER_01
He s met my family.
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SPEAKER_01
I ve met some of his family.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, most of your family.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, babe.
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SPEAKER_01
Say hi, Blake.
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SPEAKER_00
Hello.
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SPEAKER_00
Hey, what s up, man?
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SPEAKER_00
We re just chilling.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, that s cool.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, how s it going?
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SPEAKER_00
It sounds like it s going all right.
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SPEAKER_00
Amazing, actually.
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SPEAKER_00
You know, we re both really lucky and blessed.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
And like,
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Some people look at us and they like, I ve had people tell, they ll say like, Oh, is that your dad or cool?
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SPEAKER_01
You re hanging out with your dad.
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SPEAKER_01
It s always dad and it s always awkward because it s like, no, what we do is not.
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SPEAKER_01
No, that s not that.
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SPEAKER_01
No, but that s normally what people think and I think one time he came to a sports practice of mine just to cheer me on and nobody knew about him and we kissed.
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SPEAKER_01
And my coworker at first thought he was my dad, and she saw us kiss and she said, holy crap.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s not her dad.
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SPEAKER_01
She thought it was cute that my dad came, but it s my boyfriend.
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SPEAKER_01
And that was funny when she told me about that.
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SPEAKER_00
What sports practice?
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SPEAKER_00
You know, I will I will say this.
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SPEAKER_00
It s it doesn t sound good on paper when you say my 64 year old boyfriend came to my sports practice.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, agreed.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
OK, so it s like
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SPEAKER_01
At my job we have, they do these like outside of work things to get people to become friends and one of the sports that they I guess sponsor.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, team building.
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SPEAKER_01
One of the team building sports they sponsor is called Dragon Boat.
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SPEAKER_01
So it s like this big long boat with a dragon head at the front and a dragon tail at the end and there s like 12 or 10 people on the boat and you row in synchrony
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And you race.
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SPEAKER_01
And I joined the team, and that s how I met my co-worker, because I was in a different department before.
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SPEAKER_01
But there s that.
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SPEAKER_01
And then we also do whitewater.
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SPEAKER_01
There s a whitewater team.
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SPEAKER_01
That s really fun.
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SPEAKER_01
There s rowing.
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SPEAKER_01
I think those are the only three sports that we do.
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SPEAKER_01
But Dragon Boat s really boring, so I moved over to whitewater.
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SPEAKER_01
And whitewater is really fun.
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SPEAKER_01
So much adrenaline.
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SPEAKER_01
And every time I get on there, I m like, OK, I might die.
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SPEAKER_01
but it s in a contained environment, so I will likely survive, so it s fine.
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SPEAKER_00
Let s see if the chat has any questions for you guys.
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SPEAKER_00
Sticky Greg wants to know, what do you like about him?
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SPEAKER_01
His music taste.
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SPEAKER_01
Immediately, because I listen to like 80s music, old music, specifically 80s music, but all of his music taste is
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SPEAKER_01
My favorite music taste?
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_01
I wouldn t say all of it, because you like jazz, and I hate jazz.
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SPEAKER_01
That s a controversial take, or a hot take, because of the jazz.
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SPEAKER_00
Rotten Rosen wants to know, how is the sex?
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, great.
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SPEAKER_01
I was hoping you would call me back before we started doing it, because I was planning on it.
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SPEAKER_01
I was like, if he calls me back and we re doing it, I don t know.
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SPEAKER_01
I mean, it could be worse.
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SPEAKER_01
It could be like that person who came when their grandpa died.
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SPEAKER_00
You know what I d be?
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SPEAKER_00
I d be like, um, I d be like, like, like the pet gecko in the room while you guys are doing it.
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SPEAKER_00
You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01
Our cat likes to be in the room.
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SPEAKER_01
Sometimes she jumps on the bed and we have to kick her out.
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SPEAKER_00
A cruel world wants to know how did you guys meet?
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, that s actually a really cool story.
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SPEAKER_01
I love telling the story, but I ll tell just the short version.
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SPEAKER_01
I used to work at a bank as a bank teller, and he would come in as one of the regular clients that came in like twice a week.
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SPEAKER_01
That s how I met him.
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SPEAKER_01
But we started talking because he was wearing an Iggy Pop shirt.
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SPEAKER_01
And I said, what do you know about Iggy Pop?
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SPEAKER_01
You know, like one of those metal elitists who says, name three songs.
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SPEAKER_01
And Iggy Pop is his favorite artist.
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SPEAKER_00
Isn t that isn t that crazy?
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know if he s here, but isn t isn t that crazy that like
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SPEAKER_00
your life is different because you wore a certain shirt one day?
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SPEAKER_00
I really, I really think about that kind of, I mean that kind of shit s crazy, like people who, you know, meet because of things like that, or like, I ve talked about, I ve said this on the podcast before, but there s a, I knew a couple once who met on the fucking, the train, you know?
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SPEAKER_00
It s like, you just make a split second decision to throw on that shirt, or be at that train at that specific time, and you stop to tie your shoes, so you get on one car instead of the other car, and,
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changes the entire course of your life.
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SPEAKER_00
It s really crazy to think about.
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SPEAKER_03
But it s kind of like sometimes some things are meant to be.
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SPEAKER_03
I always think about it like this, like the people who were supposed to be in the Twin Towers when 9-11 happened, but their alarm didn t go off or they missed the bus.
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SPEAKER_03
And it s like, you know, when things go wrong, sometimes they go wrong for good reasons or you wear a t-shirt that s like such a simple thing and like,
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Now here we are almost five years later and I could not imagine my life here five years ago.
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SPEAKER_00
Um, does he have any daughters from any previous marriages or relationships or anything like that?
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah, he has one and she doesn t particularly like me.
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SPEAKER_00
How old is she?
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How old is she?
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She s 32.
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So she s older than I am, but she s never met me.
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We ve.
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He s offered to have her meet me multiple times.
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She s just uncomfortable with it.
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But like his other son, he has three kids.
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So I think the son that I ve met is the middle child, right?
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Okay.
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He s the middle child and he lives here where we live and he helps me out a lot.
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Like, or we talk a lot.
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Like he s, he s hooked me up with mushrooms.
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Oh, that s nice.
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Yeah.
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So you so so you so he has he has three kids.
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Yes.
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And two of them are cool with you.
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And the other one s not.
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Well, the Okay, so the daughter doesn t like me.
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The middle son.
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He likes me.
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Yeah.
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And then the older son doesn t live here.
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And I ve never met him.
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But he knows of me.
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He s indifferent.
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Okay.
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What, um, I mean the, the, the, the, but so you have the one son likes you.
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What s your relationship like with him?
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Oh, I mean, he gives me drugs.
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So that ll tell you that we re pretty cool.
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He, he, he s a car guy.
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He s like an anime weeb.
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So he s really cool.
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No, like it s just, it s just mushrooms and you know, mushrooms aren t addictive and they re just fun to do and like a controlled environment.
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I only ever do them when I m at home and my boyfriend is here to watch me so that I don t, I don t know, accidentally throw myself off the roof.
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Um, I asked this genuinely.
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Why, why do you think that, uh, your, the daughter doesn t like you?
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Personally, my boyfriend s shrugging his arms.
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Personally, I think it s because she probably thinks that I m just after his money.
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Which is seeing that everybody- Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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But I do, I do have to ask.
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I do have to ask.
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And again, there s no judgment, but I am curious.
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Does he have a lot of money?
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I m gonna let him answer that.
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I m well off.
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He said he s well off?
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Yes.
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Well, it is kind of funny.
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And again, there s no judgment, but it is kind of funny that you met at a bank.
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Yeah, it is.
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I never thought that I would.
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I worked at the bank for four years and never thought I would actually date an older guy or anyone who made more money than me, at least.
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in that way.
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Cause I, like I can be honest, I make like 40,000 a year, which is very comfortable.
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That s a good amount to make.
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I think it s not half a million, but you want to make a million a year.
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Yeah.
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What other, what kid?
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Oh yeah.
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What, um, what, uh, what is it?
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What do you, what does he do?
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He, he s a glorified landlord.
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He owns warehouses and he went out to, um,
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companies.
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So he s not like a slumlord.
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He takes care of his tenants.
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Like when COVID was happening, he was letting people just pay what they could or he was letting them like skip a month.
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You know, he was taking care of them.
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Do you think he would rent out his warehouses to do like cool raves?
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No, I don t want the liability.
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No liability, he said.
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Nope for the liability.
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Otherwise, yeah.
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I mean, we ve done punk rock shows before.
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Yeah, he said he s done punk rock shows at some of his warehouses before, but I feel like that s worse than a rave.
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But I knew all those people.
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Oh, but he knew all those people.
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So it s more like a personal party.
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Someone in the chat, someone in the chat wants to know what is your family think about the relationship?
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So,
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I have a younger sister.
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She s 19.
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She loves Blake.
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I m sure she thinks it s weird at first.
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She thought it was weird at first.
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I have an older brother who he is not doing very well with his life.
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He s done a lot of drugs, so he s not in the right mindset.
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But like literally the other day, he said that we were rich.
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And I mean, compared to him who was like basically living on the streets and going couch surfing.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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My mom, she likes him.
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Yeah.
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We have Thanksgiving and Christmas and birthday parties and, you know, they talk.
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My mom only speaks, so we re Mexicans, but she speaks Spanish and she only speaks a little English, but they can get by.
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SPEAKER_00
You know, Al Pacino, somebody in the chat said that Al Pacino is 83 and his girlfriend is 29.
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That s a huge gap.
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SPEAKER_00
That s more than you guys.
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Yeah, it is way more than us, but, um, you know, like if it makes them happy, you know, and everybody is legal and consenting, nobody s getting hurt.
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Um, what does your dad think?
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Oh, my dad is a piece of crap.
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Who is he was, he s not in my life and he was deported to Mexico.
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So he doesn t know as far as I know, but I don t care.
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Um, well, huh?
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Um, Melissa, right?
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Yes.
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Smile.
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Correct.
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Melissa.
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Is there, um, well, you know, look, here s the, I mean, you re, you re 27 years old.
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You re older than I am.
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You re a, you can, you can do whatever you want with your life.
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As long as I m happy and not hurting anybody or murdering people specifically.
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Do you think they would ever change that?
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Do you think they would ever make murder legal?
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If the purge came to life, yeah, for one day, maybe.
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But actually, no, I don t think so.
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Let s hope not.
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I mean, it is kind of legal if you re a rich person with the right contacts.
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I m on, by the way, I m, you know, I m, um, I, I, I do.
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I think that people should, I think people should do whatever they want to do with their lives.
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Um, as long as they re not hurting anyone, um, you know, as long as they re not killing people.
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And I think that s a, that s a pretty low bar, right?
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I mean, all you got to do is not kill anyone or steal stuff.
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I think in this world, the bar is pretty low.
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Especially for older guys.
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How are you doing back there?
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I don t even know your name.
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What s his name?
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I m Blake.
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How you doing, Blake?
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I m good.
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I m great.
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You know, we just had a nice dinner, grilled up some tuna steaks and made some rice and Melissa made a salad.
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And then all of a sudden I heard her freaking out in the other room because she missed her phone call an hour ago, whenever that was.
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Because she s been waiting for your phone call forever.
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Forever!
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But we re great.
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We re good.
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I assume that she s the one who s showed you this.
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Yeah, yeah, no, this is not in my wheelhouse.
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But that s kind of the fun of our relationship.
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We share a lot of things that wouldn t necessarily cross over from an age perspective.
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But it works out really well.
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And we re both really accepting of what goes on in each other s lives as far as me being an older person and her being a younger person.
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And we, we, like, you know, like Melissa said, we share a lot in common with music and we travel, we ve traveled all over the world to follow, follow bands and go to concerts.
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And, um, we, we have a pretty good life.
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Um, we re very, very blessed.
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What do you, what s the last concert you guys traveled around with to follow?
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I can answer this.
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We went to see Iron Maiden in London.
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Yeah, she can tell you Iron Maiden.
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Very cool.
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Yeah.
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16 concerts this year.
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Yeah, we went to 16 concerts this year.
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That was the last big travel show and we actually just got tickets to see them, to see Iron Maiden in New Zealand.
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And a year from now.
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Oh shit.
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Yeah, and we re from a little town, little state of Oklahoma, you know.
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You know, the biggest Republican state in America.
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Wait, no, that s Texas.
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Well, it sounds, well, it sounds like you both are killing it.
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Yeah, we are.
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And you know what, you are too.
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I ve seen people comment about, you know, how you look sad and sometimes I, why does that, what are you?
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Hold on, hold on.
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What are you, who s commenting that I look sad?
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The comment,
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The commenters, sir, commenters, commenters.
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Whatever.
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I m not sad right now.
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I actually feel pretty good right now.
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I have noticed you seem a lot happier lately, and I love that.
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I love to see you thriving.
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I haven t, I only see the part of I ll tell you this.
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I m happy right now because I m like live on my stream and I m, I feel awake and alert and I m talking to people and stuff, but I m about, I m going to be really sad and about two or three hours probably.
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Well, the good thing.
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Okay.
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It s not good that you re sad, but it s good that you feel emotion because that means you re human and emotions pass.
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So you will be happy again.
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Maybe.
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tomorrow, but you ll be happy and you just got to remember what is it that the Carl Sagan guy says?
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We are all star stuff.
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That s how amazing we are.
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We are all made out of stars.
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I don t know how to prove that, but the Carl Sagan guy says it, so it must be true.
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Melissa, is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
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Yes, Melissa would like to say comparison is a thief of joy.
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So
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Just because your friends are making a million dollars doesn t mean that you should feel bad that you re not making a million dollars.
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You got any bits?
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Like what?
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Isn t that your boyfriend s name, Blake?
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Be nice to people.
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It s not that hard.
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Take care, gang.
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Thank you guys.
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You too, love you guys.
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Have fun at Iron Maiden.
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Hell yeah.
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Good night, bye chat.
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Bye bye.
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SPEAKER_00
Is my laugh really cute?
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I think it s more... Hold on, let me try to laugh.
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I don t know if that s cute, I think it s...
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It s normal.
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I think it s a standard laugh.
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Hey guys, it s Lyle here.
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Hello?
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Hey, what s up man?
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Hey, what s up?
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Is this Caleb?
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Yes, sir.
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What s going on, Caleb?
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SPEAKER_03
Not much, man.
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How you doing?
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SPEAKER_00
Doing all right, dude.
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SPEAKER_00
What is it you wanted to talk about today?
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SPEAKER_03
Well, I wanted to tell you about the time that me and my family took a bunch of acid and all had kind of a weird experience.
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Now, I think this is an interesting thing, doing psychedelic drugs with your family.
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Cause it feels to me like, I mean, look, a lot of people have all sorts of different, um, dynamics with their family, but I think doing acid with my mom or my dad, I actually think could be a really interesting experience, but it would be incredibly vulnerable.
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So I m curious about how it went for you.
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It was pretty vulnerable.
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The thing is like, like my dad s done psychedelics plenty when he was, you know, my age.
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Hadn t as much now that he s older, but so I didn t really like, I didn t have any hesitation at first.
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And me, myself, I d done it plenty as well.
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So,
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It didn t seem like something that would be that big of a deal.
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The thing and it was on Christmas.
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So that just made it so much worse.
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Whose idea was it to do this?
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It was his idea.
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So this was his Christmas present.
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Um,
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a tab of acid, like an eighth of weed and some mushrooms.
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So me, my two brothers, my step mom and himself.
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All did a tab of acid?
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Yes.
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And how was it?
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What did you guys do?
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Did you all just sit around and stare at each other?
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No, I mean, everyone kind of, like, did their own thing, really.
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Just around the house?
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Everyone just kind of hanging out around the house?
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Like, I was mainly chilling with my brothers until, like, until everyone started peeking and then shit started going south.
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How so?
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It started with my dad.
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I could tell my dad was not handling himself very well.
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He was talking about how he had fucking died in a past life.
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He just started getting very agitated.
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I remember he was talking to my brother, Tony, and he was like,
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amping my brother Tony up, talking about how he s like, like, I can t remember what he said exactly, but I remember him telling him he was like a, like a catalyst, like a bomb.
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He was telling your brother Tony that he was a bomb.
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Yes.
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Like he was like hyping him up, like getting him all riled up.
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In a good way or a bad way?
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Uh, not a good way at all.
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So how did your brother react to that?
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At first he was like pacing around the house, like freaking out.
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I could tell.
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I could see on his face that he was not doing that good.
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He was not, because once my dad started freaking him out, he couldn t, he wasn t handling his shit.
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And like acid is a drug that you have to be, like, you have to set a good intention.
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You have to be in an uplifting mood to have a good time.
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So if somebody s freaking out and like,
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yelling at you, you re going to have a bad time.
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Why do you think your dad was yelling at your brother?
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I don t know.
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He was going through something.
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He, he kept, he was like talking to me and my brother about how he had died in a past life.
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And like, we were all like experiencing his life.
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Did he return to normal after the acid trip?
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Um, I don t, I don t know what normal is for him, but I would say yes.
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Who are you laughing with?
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My girlfriend.
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Was she there?
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No.
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Okay.
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Um,
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So, you said it went south and your dad started yelling at your brother.
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I feel like I m answered talking to you, to be completely honest.
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Sorry, I gotta put myself back.
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No, you don t have to apologize.
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It wasn t an insult.
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Maybe it came off that way.
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Maybe I m a dick.
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And in that case, I m sorry.
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But, uh, why was your dad yelling at you?
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Like what, what happened after that?
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Was there a resolution to this conflict or the whole thing just stayed stiff and weird?
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I get, it gets worse.
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So after my brother Tony gets all amped up, um, he like, he disappears for a second.
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And, uh, he walks downstairs and apparently he, like, he had an altercation with my stepmom and she gets punched in the face.
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Okay.
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Your dad punched your stepmom in the face while they were on acid together?
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It was my brother that punched my stepmom.
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Why did your brother punch your stepmom?
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The explanation that he gave was that he was envisioning our stepmom as his actual mother and that he was taking out his emotions on her.
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You know, I ve only done mushrooms.
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I ve never done acid before.
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Actually, I have plans to do acid in like a couple weeks, and I ll report back on that.
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But does acid really, like... I don t know.
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When I took mushrooms, it didn t make me think the way I thought mushrooms would make you feel.
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Like it d make you feel like everything s a carnival or something like that.
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And, you know...
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Does acid really make you do this shit?
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Like envision people as goblins that you punch in the face?
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Like, is that really what happens?
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It s like, it s a slippery slope.
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So you have to like, like I said, you have to set good intentions.
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You have to really hope for good things to happen.
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Put yourself in a good setting.
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Like that was all things that didn t happen.
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Okay.
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All right.
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And there was, uh, this is like, um, the full house acid trip.
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This, this other people in this as a step family.
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How many other people are tripping at this point?
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So it s me, uh, my two younger brothers, my dad and my step mom.
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Okay.
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My brother, Tony is an adopted brother.
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We adopted him, you know, later when he was older.
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Did anyone else freak out?
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Um, no, me and my brother, Javon, we re kind of like the only people that could keep the situation level.
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Like, I mean, as, as much as we could.
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Did you guys get Christmas presents?
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You know, the day after
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I couldn t even look at my dad straight for like two days.
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Hmm.
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Hmm.
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This is, man, I gotta tell you some shit like this would never happen at Hanukkah.
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Never.
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We would never, ever, ever do acid at Hanukkah.
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Although it would be kind of nice to do it and look at the lights.
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Um, I thought like we were looking at Christmas lights in my room.
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Like, yeah, it s really, it s very nice in theory.
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It s nice in theory until your brother punches your step mom in the face.
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And then the, um, you know, she falls back and ruins the fruitcake.
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That s the thing.
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It s it s Christmas night.
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So we re all fucking trying to have a good time.
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Hmm.
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Yeah, dude, this is crazy I
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are you are how are you honestly you sound i don t know if it s because and i mean this so genuinely i m not like coming at you you sound very um spacey about this whole thing is it because it s you re like nervous talking or is it because you re like processing it all and trying to figure out what the hell happens like what s what s going on with you
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Definitely more nervous talking.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I didn t know if you were having like really complex Internal feelings about this acid trip you did with your family on on Christmas Not like three years.
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I ve been able to process Okay.
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Oh, so it s been three years.
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Do you still talk to your dad?
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Oh For sure.
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Yeah all the time How s he doing he s good he s He s dead I mean
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He s a dad that does acid, like... He s never been quite a normal dad.
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Mm-hmm.
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How about your mom?
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She s the exact opposite, pretty much.
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Really?
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No acid on the mom?
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No.
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Stepmom... She s more like that.
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Okay.
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What about you?
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What s your deal?
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Are you... Are you still... Are you doing acid every day?
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Are you on acid right now?
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No, no, no.
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Okay.
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Um, I haven t taken acid since then.
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Yeah.
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That seems like a good place to stop.
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Not saying that I wouldn t, but like, I know, I know my level.
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Cause I ve, I don t know.
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I ve had my own crazy trips on acid before.
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Sure.
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The first time I actually did it.
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I had a freaking terrible time.
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I took two tabs and freaked out myself.
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What is it that made you want to do it?
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If you had such a terrible time, what was it that made you want to do it again with your whole family on Christmas?
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Love of the game.
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I don t know.
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I like getting fucked up.
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I have a lot of respect for you, Caleb.
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No, I m serious.
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I really do.
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I really do.
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I have a lot of respect for you, man.
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You re keeping it very cool today, despite the weirdness of your life.
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You re keeping it real cool.
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I respect that about you.
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Well, what have we learned from this conversation, Caleb?
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What do you think?
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What do we all learn?
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Probably don t do acid on Christmas with your family.
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And if you do, don t let your brother punch somebody.
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That s all I needed to hear.
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If you re happy, I m happy.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go, Caleb?
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Keep on doing your thing, my man.
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Hey, you too, man.
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Well, whatever your thing is right now, your thing just seems to be being cool.
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So keep doing that.
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I appreciate it.
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Have a good night.
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Take care, Caleb.
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Now, actually, now that I m thinking about it, acid
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Hanukkah sounds sick.
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Yo, you can eat these coins?
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That s crazy.
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Hello folks, it s Lyle here.
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What s up, man?
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What d you want to talk about today?
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I, uh, just recently got out of jail about a year ago.
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I beat a 15 to 25 year case.
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The charges that I got were like really big.
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I was on the news and everything.
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You were on the news?
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Yeah.
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Look, you do not have to tell me this and I will only ask you once and you don t have to answer if you don t want to.
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But, uh, what happened?
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So I tried to steal a fire truck and then I ran across the street and I went into somebody s hotel room and I like took their clothes, put their clothes on and try to change and stuff.
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Theft of a vehicle over $250,000 and then regular burglary.
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Yeah, I know.
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All right, I have nothing else to say.
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Taking your phone calls every night.
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Therapy kid goes to his ride.
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He s teaching you how to live your life.
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But he s not really an expert.