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And today s guest is Bob Parsons.
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Best known for being the founder of GoDaddy, Bob sold a majority stake in 2011 in a deal that valued the company at $2.3 billion.
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Currently, Bob is the CEO and founder of Yam Worldwide, which is home to his entrepreneurial ventures in the fields of motorcycles, golf, real estate, finance, marketing, innovation, and philanthropy.
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Yam Worldwide includes companies such as PXG and Scottsdale National Golf Club.
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Bob is also a U.S.
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Marine Corps Vietnam veteran, which we ll dive into his story today.
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And Bob is also widely recognized for his entrepreneurial and philanthropic efforts.
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Please welcome to the show, Bob Parsons.
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Bob, it is great to have you here.
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Real pleasure to be here, Jay, I got to tell you.
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Yeah.
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And I remember meeting you and it was at your beautiful facility at PXG in Scottsdale.
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And it was a really fine evening.
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It was myself.
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You were there having dinner.
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I was traveling with Will Smith at the time.
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Nick Jonas was there.
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We all kind of just bumped into each other over dinner.
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And I remember just how gracious you were, how kind you were, what a beautiful interaction we all had that evening.
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It s a really special place.
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I remember meeting you guys, and Will and Nick are two of my absolute favorite people.
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And I knew a little bit about you, and just to meet you, you re an easy guy to be around, Jay.
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Well, thank you.
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That s very kind of you.
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And I was just saying to your team outside that that was the first time I d ever actually played golf.
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So I don t play, but that was the first time I d ever played golf.
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I had one of your coaches that was working with me for a couple of days.
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I came back to LA and I started looking for a coach because I got really into it that weekend.
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Will got me a really nice set of clubs from the course too that were fitted for me and made for me.
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And I couldn t find a coach as good as the ones you had at PXG.
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So now I need to come back more often to get some lessons.
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Well, we re there.
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Thank you.
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Well, Bob, I want to dive straight in to your journey and to really dive into your work that you re doing today.
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And I think I was really blown away to hear about your time as a Marine, and I d like to start there.
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Well, you know, when I enlisted in the Marine Corps, I did so mostly because I had two friends of mine.
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asking me to join them.
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We were in our senior year of high school, and they were going to visit with the Marine Corps recruiter, and asked me if I d go along with them, and I did.
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You know, as we spent time with the Marine Corps recruiter, he eventually had us in the palm of his hands.
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I mean, this was during the height of the Vietnam War in 1968.
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I lasted one month.
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And walking through a village at night, I was on the point team.
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And the point man, he stepped over a trip wire, missed it, and I hit it.
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And that thing blew, and I got shrapnel in both my legs and my left elbow, and I was medevaced out.
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I left on a stretcher.
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So, you know, the thoughts that I took back from that is, I think I learned to think one day at a time.
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And I look to quantify the worst thing that could possibly happen.
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That s got me through a number of businesses.
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I ve built three businesses now, and I m working on the third all from scratch.
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And, you know, when you do a startup, a startup, you have a lot of good days and a lot of bad days.
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Sometimes, you know, the good days are euphoric and the bad days look like Armageddon.
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So, you know, how you think really matters.
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And I learned during the war how to think.
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I learned to quantify the worst thing.
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And quite often, the worst thing, when you sit down and you quantify, it s not so bad.
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But if you look at the worst thing, it s this big, dark room full of bad things that could happen.
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Then it looks far worse than it actually is.
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And then it becomes debilitating.
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Yeah, I mean that s such a powerful reflection hearing that from you based on the experiences that you went through.
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Often we hear that idea but sitting with you here today, listening to you in person, I can feel just how real that idea is for you.
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I love what you said about facing one day at a time.
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I think a lot of our anxiety, a lot of our pain, a lot of our stress is based on what could happen in 12 months.
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Oh, exactly, yeah.
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Or what happened 12 months ago.
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And what you re saying is, well, actually, when you take one day at a time, that feels manageable and solvable, even in such extreme situations.
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Well, you know, one day at a time is something you can do something about.
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Right?
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Because it s there, you know, to be worried about a year from now.
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There s not much you can do until it s a year from now.
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And then it becomes one day at a time.
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I often thought that worry belongs to tomorrow, regret belongs to yesterday, happiness is here and now.
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That s so powerful.
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Wow.
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And then when you came back and you come back and you re experiencing depression, you re experiencing, of course, all the stress, the trauma that comes from living in that way for a month.
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I mean, how did your parents react to that before we get on to how you reacted to it?
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I mean, how did your parents feel?
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I grew up in a different kind of house.
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I grew up in a blue collar neighborhood in East Baltimore.
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And mom and dad were both compulsive gamblers.
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And they weren t very good at it.
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Now, I wouldn t trade my mom and dad for any two on the planet.
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I loved them to pieces.
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But they didn t pay a lot of attention to me.
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And I wasn t actually home that much, so they never noticed.
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They never noticed.
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And a lot of it, which a lot of veterans, I just kept to myself.
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My symptoms were, and as I was home, they got worse, and they got worse, and they got worse.
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And when I say that, I mean over 49 years.
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The symptoms with me was I didn t want to.
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go places.
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I didn t want to be with groups, you know.
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No matter who the group was, I never felt like I belonged.
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Because I d be there and I d have this, just this picture of the stuff that we did.
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I mean, and it just never leaves you.
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And of course, nobody else is dealing with that kind of stuff.
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So you definitely are different, right?
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So that s, you know, one of the things, a quick temper is another thing.
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People would describe me as being one of the most intense people they ve ever met.
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Now, the crying when I got into that, it was always by myself, nobody being around.
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But there was good things, too.
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And the good things were, when I went to college,
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When I came back, I worked as a laborer in a steel mill in Bethlehem Steel, and I did that for a year.
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And then the University of Baltimore had a special deal for veterans where my high school grades didn t matter, thank goodness.
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I didn t have to take the entrance exams, right?
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And I could go on the GI Bill, which I did.
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I went, studied accounting.
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Literally, I mean, as fate would have it, it was the first major in the book.
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They said, you good with math?
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I said, yeah, as good as anything.
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You interested in business?
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Yeah.
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You should try accounting.
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And I did, and I wound up graduating with a Bachelor of Science in Accountancy, magna cum laude.
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Wow, congratulations.
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I d have never done that without the Marine Corps.
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Never, ever, ever.
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I took the CPA exam, passed it the first time, got a job where I would travel.
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I mean, my life is full of just coincidences.
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You know, where I was working for a commercial credit leasing corp.
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And this is back in 1975.
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They send me to Redwood City to schedule the assets to this leasing company they want to buy.
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I finish.
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I have 12 hours until the flight.
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I wind up on Stanford campus at the bookstore, because I always like to read and so forth.
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And I buy a book on programming.
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basic language.
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And I read enough of that during the layover and on the flight, wrote my first programs, and then got good at it.
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And the company that I worked for had a dumb terminal that happened to run the basic computer language.
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And then I taught myself Pascal, and then C, and then C++.
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And I started my first business, which was Parsons Technology.
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And I wrote all the code for that.
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And when I was working there, I worked
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40 hours, no, 60 hours at a time.
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I d come to work Monday morning, work through Tuesday morning, work through Wednesday morning, and then about eight o clock at night, I d start to hallucinate.
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After about 60 hours, I d hear stuff that wasn t there, maybe see something move that I know didn t, and I d go back, go to sleep,
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Come back, you know, after eight hours and a shower and a little workout, do it again.
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And that s how that company got off the ground.
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I put $40,000 into that company and I sold it to Intuit for $64 million.
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That was my first business.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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You know, most people like just reintegrating into society, like just kind of surviving seems to be a natural challenge because of the extreme events that people go through.
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How did you navigate that when you were talking about some of the challenges you had when you came back?
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How did you even just start finding your way again?
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Because it can be so disassociating, it can be so disconnected.
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Well, using that term, disassociating, there was a time when I d seen a psychiatrist for a good while, and she told me, one of the things that has helped me get through the war and also helped me in business, she says, you have a remarkable ability to disassociate.
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And where I developed that?
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One of the blessings that I have is I don t worry about anything at all.
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I just don t worry.
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And that has been one of the things that, to me, has helped bring out the joy in my life, you know, what joy there was.
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I mean, that s beautiful to hear.
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That s what an incredible gift to have to not worry.
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That s very special.
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When you started learning and teaching yourself these coding languages and you started building this company, what was your level of business experience at the time or technology experience at the time?
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And how did you even figure out what you wanted to build?
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I think there s so many people today.
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I literally was just at the Tech University in Monterrey, Mexico.
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50% of the people from that university go on to become entrepreneurs and so it s a really phenomenal institution.
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But one of the biggest questions I saw that young people have is, Jay, how do I know if I m doing the right thing, or I don t know what I m building, or what should I focus on?
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I feel like now there s so much choice that people feel paralyzed by the amount of options they have.
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Colin Bridgerton has returned from his travels abroad.
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I had a degree in accountancy.
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So I understood the record-keeping of business.
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Right.
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All right.
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I started a little business, which was more of a bookkeeping business than anything, where I d work with these small businesses.
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Some were taverns.
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One was a flower shop.
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One of my favorites was pest control, Phil s Pest Control.
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Guy s name was Fat Willy.
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I learned a lot from him.
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the way he would keep track of things.
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And it got to the point where over a few years, I could start doing the records of a business, and I could tell you if they d succeed or not.
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And anyhow, using those little things that I learned there, that s what I did when I launched my business.
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And then plus I learned.
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I learned, like for example, I read during the Civil War, right?
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During the Civil War in the Union,
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there was General McClellan, who really trained and organized the Union Army, but he could not move them into battle, just couldn t do it, right?
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And then, so Lincoln fired him and put Grant there, and Grant didn t care how they were organized, the enemy s over there, go there, right?
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That s what he did.
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And actually, the right way is a mix of the two.
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Right.
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So I learned that from them.
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I learned from John D. Rockefeller that the guy who knows the most about his business, he kept exceptional records.
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They were all manual, but he knew everything about his business at a time when very few people did.
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The guy who knows the most about his business quite often is the guy that wins because, as you know, knowledge truly is power, and especially specific and pertinent knowledge.
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So, I mean, I learned from people in history, right?
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And then beyond that, I just powered through.
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Yeah, I love those examples.
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I think what I love about them is I often say to people that you can be mentored by people you ve never met.
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When we study history, when we look at patterns, when we look at connections and start connecting the dots between events that have happened before us,
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you can actually garner so much wisdom and so much insight, even if you never asked Rockefeller the question yourself.
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Exactly.
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I mean, you know, and somebody got— Julius Caesar s another one.
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You know what he was able to do in Gaul and how he was able to, you know, lead his armies.
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And one time he was attacked by a vastly larger force, and the battlements that he built was just brilliant.
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Right?
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Nobody showed him how to do that.
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He figured it out.
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So, I mean, we have that ability.
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As long as you believe in yourself and you give yourself a chance.
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If there s someone right now who s listening, who s thinking about starting a business, what would be the top three things you think they should think about if they re thinking about starting something?
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Well, the first thing is they should do something that they love, that is fun, that is something that they re really interested in.
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And the reason for that, my father used to tell me, he used to say, Robert, when you love something, it tells you all its secrets.
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That s beautiful.
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And basically, if you love what you re doing, it s going to, well, you re going to work harder.
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And that all translates to success.
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And then let s see here, what would be the second?
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You have to not be doing it for the money.
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If you start a business and you re doing it just to turn a buck, I don t think you ll be successful.
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You got to start it to be special.
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And the businesses that I started, and none of them, even GoDaddy, did I do it to make money.
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I did it to make a difference.
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When you work to make a difference, you do things that, on the surface, from a business standpoint, it doesn t make sense.
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But when it comes to really doing something special and getting your idea across and taking care of your customers and so forth, that s what you need to do.
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And you will never do that if you re just doing it for a dollar.
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The third thing is there s two groups of people that you have to energize.
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The first group is your employees.
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And your employees, you know, they need to believe in what you re doing.
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And you need to structure it so they can believe in what you re doing, that it s special.
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And again, if you re doing it for money, they re going to have a difficult time doing that.
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But if you have a higher purpose, people always do want to aspire to a higher purpose, I believe.
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So what happens is when you do that with them, it creates enthusiasm.
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And what do we know about enthusiasm?
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It s contagious.
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And those, the employees then fire up the customers and then the customers fire up each other.
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So it d be those three things.
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Yeah, those are great answers.
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I love those three things.
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They re such great points.
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What was something that you were passionate about with GoDaddy?
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Like when you said that, I fully agree with you that we should never start a business to make money.
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There has to be a greater goal with it.
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What was that goal with GoDaddy when it started out?
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Like the part we don t see.
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Well, when I started GoDaddy, it had been after I sold Parsons Technology, which was the name of my first business, and I signed a non-compete with Intuit.
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Not that I couldn t compete with them.
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I couldn t work for money, right, for a few years.
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And they held back a few million dollars.
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And when it was up,
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I just wanted to be back in action again.
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But I didn t know what I wanted to do.
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This was back when the internet was just getting going, like 97.
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So I named this business Jomax Technologies.
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I had like $36 million.
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I had gotten divorced.
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I mean, I don t blame her.
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PTSD, I m lucky she kept me around that long.
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So I wanted to do something
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in the internet.
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So what I did was I thought I would hire some pretty sharp people.
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And we would start trying things on the internet.
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And when we did, if it worked, we would continue.
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And if it didn t, we d move on.
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And so I named it Jomax Technologies after a dirt road that I drove by on the way to work.
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I mean, it didn t matter.
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I mean, we didn t do anything.
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So our employees would go to Chamber of Commerce meetings, and people would ask them, what are you doing?
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They go, well, we don t know.
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And he says, I ve never had a business tell me that.
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And then eventually, as time went on, we decided to start doing websites for people.
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And these are way early, really fundamental websites.
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And we noticed that the websites business would generate cash
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but it couldn t scale because it was just your efforts there that you were tied to.
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I have a rule that if you got the right business, you can make money while you re sleeping.
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Your business can be successful while you re sleeping.
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So we then wrote software that would build a website for people.
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They could do it theirself.
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We had so many requirements.
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And then eventually in 99,
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or 99 and 2000, we became a domain name registrar, renamed the company GoDaddy, just as, and I did that at first as a joke, but it stuck.
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And never did we dream that we d make our bread on domain names.
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And then there s a further story going back.
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Okay, I would keep track of how much money I had.
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And tie that to how successful the business is doing.
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Now, you remember that were the days of cash burn, right?
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And when I first started, I said, I m not going to worry about this business until I get down to $30 million, and then $25.
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and then 20, 20, and then 18, 14, 12, 10, eight, six, and you know, we get down to $6 million, and this is about a year.
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So you never raised, it was all your own money you put into it.
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Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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It was always only my own money.
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I ve never really borrowed much from the first business, none.
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Wow.
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And GoDaddy, none, and no partners.
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Oh, incredible.
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Yeah.
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So I get down to $6 million.
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And one of the things I learned from reading about General Grant, he kept his own council.
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I kept my own council.
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So I decided to shut GoDaddy down while I still had some money.
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And the reason I had to is the dot-com boom was so loud that you couldn t buy advertising.
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I mean, people were paying $100 for a customer, and the customer might generate two bucks.
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Well, you re going to burn up a lot of cash that way.
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And I don t care how big your truck is, you re not going to be able to make wages.
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That s what I did.
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So I go to Hawaii and I went there to first pay my bills.
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pay my employees, and sell the assets, figure out how I m going to do that.
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And then, so I m there by myself for a week, and I started thinking about, I don t want to shut it down.
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I just had this feeling I just didn t want to shut it down.
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The epiphany for me happened when this guy is parking cars, and he comes up to me, and he goes, hey, Mr. Parsons, this guy s a little older than me, throwing his keys up in the air, happy as a lark, right?
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And I m thinking, what s wrong with his picture?
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This guy has probably got nothing.
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He s parking cars for a living.
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Look how happy and free he is.
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I got $6 million and I m miserable, right?
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And so I decided then that I would go back and not shut the company down.
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And I just would ride it out, and if the company sunk, I d go down with the ship.
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So that was probably in February, March.
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And later then, the dot-com crash happened.
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And the dot-com crash, GoDaddy was born out of that, because I was one of the few guys that was paying my bills.
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And all these companies just went away.
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I mean, we would have checks returned every week from different companies that just weren t there anymore.
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Right.
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And so we would take and, you know, we d go ahead.
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And I went from not being able to buy advertising at any price to having people standing in line to give it to me.
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I had more friends than I thought I had.
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And then all of a sudden, things turned around for us.
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And that October, we became profitable for the very first time and never missed a month since.
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Wow.
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That s unbelievable.
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I mean, it sounds like you ve been guided so much by your intuition as well as data.
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Like you talked about the numbers, you talked about knowing your business, you talked about knowing your numbers, but it sounds like you re also guided intuitively.
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Would you agree with that?
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Is that true?
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Is that fair or not really?
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You know, sometimes you hear this saying, better lucky than good, and things just happen and, you know, you d like to believe they happen for a reason.
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I believe the universe is guiding you.
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And I believe there s an intelligence to it, you know, however you define that intelligence, whether it s, you know, a particular form of God or just the way of the universe.
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But I believe it s there.
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Yeah, that s incredible.
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What an unbelievable story.
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I mean, as I m listening to you, I m thinking, you know, you have this really positive mindset.
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You have this really incredible ability to find the good, even in challenging times.
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What s been one of the biggest failures in your life or, you know, something that s gone wrong that maybe in business or in another field that you learned a lot from or you took a lot of insight from?
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I would say one of the regrets I have is, you know, when I came back and I got married and I had kids is I missed their childhood because I was working, working so hard.
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You know, back then I had PTSD so bad I had a flash temper.
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So it was probably some ways, you know, the hard thing is it s a good thing that I wasn t around.
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But I have a great relationship with all three of them now.
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I love them dearly.
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and I look forward to treasure our time together.
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That s incredible.
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Yeah, thank you for sharing that.
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It s interesting to hear about your experience that you weren t there but you re saying it was actually good I wasn t there because I had PTSD and I was dealing with that and I ve heard in your journey you talk about how psychedelics were like a huge part of your coming home.
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100% yeah.
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Could you walk us through how you got introduced to that and how you were open to that?
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In 2018,
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I read Michael Pollan s book, How to Change Your Mind.
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I went through it like a bag of peanuts.
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And I just told my wife, Renee, who is the love of my life, I never did psychedelics before in my life, never did them, anything like that.
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But I said to her, if this can do it for me, I mean, I want to try them.
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And I mean, I got to the point, Jay, where somebody could come up to me and say, like at the golf course and say, you were in Vietnam, weren t you?
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I start crying.
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Yeah, I mean, it just gets worse, you know?
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So she had me hooked up in two weeks with two individuals that, again, would see me in Hawaii.
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And on the first day, I did ayahuasca.
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And it s guided, you know?
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I mean, a lot of talk.
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And the therapy that does the healing, psychedelics make it possible, because they make you receptive, and they make you willing to change.
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So on the first day, it was ayahuasca.
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On the second day, it was magic mushrooms, psilocybin.
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And, you know, a little interesting aside, when the guide made the, he made a teapot, and he said, and he says, I made, this teapot holds three cups, and I made them strong, so you ll only need one.
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I drank all three cups and I ate the teabags.
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Oh, man, I was sailing.
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And then on the third day, I took a break.
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And on the fourth day, it was LSD.
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And afterwards, I was a different guy.
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I was totally a different guy.
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The people that worked with me were like, what happened to him?
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He s so nice.
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He doesn t have a temper.
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He s not that intense, scary dude anymore.
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My son told his wife, he said, man, I m worried my dad s going to die soon.
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And she goes, why?
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And he goes, well, I think he found out he s going to die soon because he keeps calling and he s so nice.
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And it was that type of thing.
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And of course, Renee, my wife, noticed it instantly.
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And the best way I can describe it is, after being treated with psychedelics, it had been 49 years since the war.
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I finally came home.
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When the Taliban banned music in Afghanistan, millions were plunged into silence.
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Radios were smashed.
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Cassettes burned.
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You could be beaten or jailed or killed for breaking the rules.
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And yet, Afghans did it anyway.
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This is the story of how a group of people brought music back to Afghanistan by creating their own version of American Idol.
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The danger they endured.
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They said my head should be cut off.
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The joy they brought to the nation.
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You re free completely.
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No one is there to destroy you.
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I m John Legend.
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Listen to Afghan Star on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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That s unbelievable.
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Do you feel that you went back to being who you were before the war?
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Exactly, you know, enriched by everything I learned since.
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And, you know, I still had the memories of the war.
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There s times when, you know, when I talk about it, I choke up and so forth, but I m not debilitated by it anymore.
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But it s still very much there.
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Of course, of course, yeah.
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It sounds like that you ve kept the parts that have made you who you are and left the parts that defined who it forced you to be, if that feels right.
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Yeah, for sure.
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To be honest, just sitting with you today, you have such a joyful spirit.
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You have such a positive outlook on life.
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You re fun to be around.
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That s all I m experiencing.
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That s how I experienced you at PXG when I was there a couple of years ago.
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And for me to know, it feels like this is who you are.
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This is who you always were.
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But naturally, the challenges just clouded over and the experiences clouded over that.
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Yeah.
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The windows have been opened.
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Yeah, it s unbelievable and is that a practice that you have to keep up?
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Do you go back to Hawaii or to the centers to continue that practice or no, it was once and it s kind of stayed?
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You know, I ve went through the process twice.
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Right.
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I ve went through the process once myself and then once with two of the guys I served with and they both came home.
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Wow.
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They both came home.
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That s unbelievable.
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That must be beautiful for you to see that for other people there.
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Oh, 100%.
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Now, one of the things that I spend time and money and help out as best I can is to get psychedelics made legal for therapeutic use.
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We re very close with MDMA.
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Thank God to Rick Doblin and MAPS.
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And, you know, the rest, I think it s not too far behind.
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I tell you, when we do, it s going to be a renaissance.
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And we deserve that as a people.
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And our veterans deserve it.
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Every veteran should be treated with it when they come back.
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Because the Veterans Administration says 30% of the combat veterans have PTSD.
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I d be willing to say 100% do.
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But 30% are really good at pushing it down.
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That s what I think.
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Yeah, no, I mean, and it s not surprising.
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I mean, like you said, no one else can relate to what that experience is like.
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No one else can understand it.
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And I mean, that s a lot to carry for the human mind, the human brain.
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Oh, absolutely, for sure.
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When those two were treated, and to me, you should have seen the tears.
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I mean, the tears, I mean, and it s like, oh, they were carrying something.
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You know, they were there much longer than I was, but, you know, they carry a lot of crosses.
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Yeah.
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What are some of the, you know, from all your experiences in life, you ve lived so many different lives, it seems as well.
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What are some of the mindsets or approaches you think, lessons that you think people should carry with them?
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What are some of the mistakes people make or what are some of the shifts in our mindset we could make to live happier and healthier lives?
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You need to believe in yourself.
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Definitely you need to believe in yourself because, you know, while there s many books, there s no manual.
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You know what we talked about, looking too far into the future, day at a time.
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And also when you re doing stuff, the best you can have fun.
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have fun.
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You know, we re more productive when we have fun.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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A lot of people today have a lot of self-doubt.
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When you said believe in yourself, when I m traveling and speaking and coaching people and meeting people, I noticed self-doubt to be just such a big challenge when you said believe in yourself.
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And I think so many people, even if they act confident and they act secure inside, there s such a
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low self-esteem situation that we have in the country right now and in the world right now.
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If someone has self-doubt or they re feeling like they don t have potential or they don t believe in themselves, what would you say to them?
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I would say there s a couple things they need to do.
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Usually they have self-doubt for a reason.
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Usually they were not encouraged, they were discouraged once they were raised, I would think.
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And that being the case, I would say this therapy with psychedelics, when it s available, would be perfect because it would
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free them from a lot of those shackles.
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And there s something that works just as good, and it is legal, it s called an SGB block.
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Do you know about it?
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No, I don t.
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Okay, what an SGB block is, S and G stands for stellate ganglium, and then B stands for block.
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And what it is, is
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PTSD and all that stuff is caused from the amygdala in the front of the mind, okay?
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And the amygdala manages fight or flight and emotions.
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Well, what happens is, as we go through all these unpleasant events and so forth, it gets out of tilt.
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and the individual stays in a close-to-a-fight-or-flight type situation, which is what PTSD is, and it s debilitating.
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But the problem is, with the human mind, the mind hides its flaws from the person in which it resides.
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They don t know it.
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They feel like they re just perfect, except they have self-doubt.
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or they have anxiety, or they re on edge, or that sort of thing.
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It s the amygdala, all right?
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So, the amygdala communicates with the rest of the body through the stellaganglion nerves in the neck.
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And when there s a fight or flight,
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response necessary, or be it real or emotional, it releases adrenaline and epinephrine, it speeds the heart up, it dilates the lungs, it tightens the arteries and extremities to move blood to the core, all those things to get us to survive that have been developed over millennia, right?
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It does all that.
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Well, what is happening is the people that are suffering from this,
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They re in that state very close and any trigger just pushes them right into it.
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And they have no control over it.
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They have no physical control over it.
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Even though they say, you hear people say, I don t know what s wrong with me.
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Right?
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Okay.
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This is what the SGB block does is using a, it s a medical doctor using ultrasound takes about five minutes.
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They take and shoot the big brother, a lidocaine,
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in the neck, right next to the stellagelian nerves, it numbs them.
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And when it does, the amygdala goes offline.
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It just shuts down.
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And then the individual will get a little droopy eye, talk like a sailor, right?
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And that sort of thing.
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And then when it
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The numbing agent wears off, and the eye returns to normal, and the voice normal.
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The amygdala reconnects, and it reboots.
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It resets, and it goes back to the way the individual should be, and the difference is profound.
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All right.
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Now, this is done all over the country.
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You can find a website called Stella Centers, which will tell you about it.
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I m not involved in it at all.
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I just know about it.
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And I help people get it done.
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It changes their lives.
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I ve helped NFL players do it.
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I ve helped veterans.
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I ve helped little kids that are just having trouble in school.
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I mean, stuff like that.
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It s amazing.
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And there s only one downside, and the downside is it s not permanent.
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In many cases, it ll be six months or a year or two years.
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But here s what you do.
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When you start sliding back, get it done again.
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I ve had it done four times.
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I have probably helped 150 people get it done, never had one negative result.
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And everybody just- And they re all veterans too, or just anyone?
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Anyone, yeah.
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And they just, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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It is just amazing.
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Bob, it s wonderful to hear your spirit of, you know, healing yourself, wanting to help heal others.
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I can see how much joy you get in helping other people and seeing them break through their challenges and what s holding them back.
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We end every episode here with what s called the final five.
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And these five questions have to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum.
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Okay.
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Bob Parsons, these are your final five.
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Question number one, what is the best advice you ve ever heard or received?
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Do what you love.
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Great answer.
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Second question, what is the worst advice you ve ever heard or received?
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Worst advice?
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Oh my God.
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Well, this horse can t lose.
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Question number three, what s something you used to value but you don t value anymore?
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You know, I d say to a degree, money.
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Question number four, what s something you re trying to learn right now or what s something that you re working on right now that you re excited about?
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Well, I m trying to learn what I can do to get psychedelics legal.
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In a medical capacity, in a healing capacity.
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Exactly, yeah.
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Fifth and final question if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow what would it be?
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This sounds trite, but it s and I don t know how you d make it a law, but I just say you know if you love your neighbor
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Yeah, that would be beautiful.
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Yeah, wouldn t it?
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Yeah, it would make the world a much better place.
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We wouldn t have to have so many people who have to go to war and come back with PTSD and have to deal with the repercussions of that.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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Bob, it has been such a joy, such a pleasure to spend this time with you today.
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Honestly, I meant everything I said.
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your spirit, your energy, the way you communicate, your smile, it s infectious.
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It s very infectious being around you and I can t begin to imagine the journey you ve had to go on to rediscover yourself, to re-find yourself, to allow yourself to be yourself from before and it s unbelievable to experience it.
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So thank you so much for this honour and for this opportunity to sit with you and have this conversation.
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Well, I got to tell you, it s been absolutely my pleasure.
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So thank you.
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No, you re very kind, Bob.
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And for everyone who s been listening or watching, make sure that you share the insights that Bob gave, things that are going to stay with you, messages that you re going to pass on to a friend.
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I hope that you ll pass this episode on to others as well.
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Make sure you check out everything that Bob s working on as well.
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Bob, congratulations.
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I know tonight you have a party to celebrate your new partnership with PXG and Nick Jonas as well.
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Yes, we do.
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Very excited.
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I hope that goes extremely extremely well and for everyone who s been watching I hope you come back and listen to more
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more episodes of On Purpose, dedicated to helping you be happier, healthier, and more healed.
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Thank you so much.
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If you loved this episode, you ll enjoy my interview with Dr. Daniel Amen on how to change your life by changing your brain.
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Guess what, Will?
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What s that, Mango?
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I ve been trying to write a promo for our podcast Part-Time Genius, but even though we ve done over 250 episodes, we don t really talk about murders or cults.
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I mean, we did just cover the Illuminati of cheese, so I feel like that makes us pretty edgy.
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We also solve mysteries like how Chinese is your Chinese food and how do dollar stores make money?
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And then, of course, can you game a dog show?
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So what you re saying is everyone should be listening.
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Listen to Part-Time Genius on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.