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 And people do this in seven days of going all in.
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At the end of seven days, their body looks like, genetically, with all the metabolites, that they're literally in a different environment.
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 Welcome to the School of Greatness.
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My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
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And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
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Thanks for spending some time with me today.
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Now let the class begin.
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 I feel like a lot of people see you, Joe, and they see that you've got this mastery level of this.
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You've been teaching this for a long time and studying this, you've now got
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 scientists and universities and research and all these different things proving the results in your studies over the last 20 plus years, 30 years now you've been doing this, 20 plus?
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A long, long time.
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Since you were born, right?
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Yeah.
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And I'm curious, and I think a lot of people listening or watching could be curious about what is your
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 thing that might come in every now and then as a limiting belief for you.
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Or something that holds you back.
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I'm no different than anybody else.
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I mean, of course.
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And what are those things then that hold you back or that maybe limit you or get you into the memories of a fear state as opposed to the future?
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Look, it takes a lot for me to do what I do.
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A lot of energy.
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 There's a lot of people that would love to see me fail.
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And the beauty behind my, I think, my perseverance is that we're uncovering some really powerful truths for people to really embrace.
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I keep telling the scientists, I can't believe this is the truth.
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I tell them that.
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I can't believe this is the truth.
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We have the evidence right there that
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 You could make your brain work better in four days.
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You could make your heart work better in four days.
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You could make your immune system 50% stronger in four days.
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You could regulate eight different genes in four days that are all promoting neurogenesis and stem cell production and oxidative balance and all kinds of wonderful things, cellular structures enhanced.
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 A lot of this stuff is really cool because if you don't know that that's possible, then it doesn't exist for you.
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If you're unconscious to the fact that you could heal yourself, you'll make the same choices you always do.
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So I'm challenged in my own way at a different level to do my best, to make the right choices all the time, and sometimes those choices
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 I can't rely on anybody else but me to make those choices because nobody else knows what it's like to be me than me.
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Even my closest friends think they know me, but when it comes down to making the choice, it's a lonely moment, right?
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Because I'm doing my best to try to preserve this work and to inspire people to apply it in their lives as many ways as I can.
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So a lot of times I get discouraged, like, oh my God.
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 Another challenge, another challenge.
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But, you know, I think, you know, when I'm truly in the right zone, I think the only way that we actually can grow in our lives is to be challenged, right?
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And I think that the greater we evolve or the greater we become, I think the greater the challenges, you know.
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And so I have my own set of challenges that I have to really retreat from my life.
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 I've spent a lot of time alone, and I really remember that vision, and I have to get beyond all those other things that say, wow, my God, this might be a good time for you to quit, or this is a good time for you to say, wow, this is getting pretty intense.
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What would you say is the biggest challenge?
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Is it the internal conversation about just... No, it's just a lot of moving parts.
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We have a big team, we run events for thousands of people, we have staff, we have volunteers, we have scientists, we have...
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 papers, I mean we have growth, we have websites, social media, we have just a lot.
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A lot of moving parts.
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Yeah, a lot of moving parts.
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And so I think for me personally, I guess I could say this, is that what I love to do more than anything else is to create, right?
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I mean the meditations that I
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 Develop and the things that I think about in the music that we work on creating all that stuff We've got great science to show.
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I know now what music works.
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I know what words work.
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I know the rhythm I know the cadence.
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I know the mathematics of music that works really well.
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So like that stuff is the fun stuff That's stuff That's where I want to be in a studio and with the sound and making the right meditations for people to but I'm running, you know I'm running a lot.
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I'm doing a lot of things over here.
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So I
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 Balance in my life to be able to make time for myself and people that I love And and keep that private and keep that special and at the same time Interface with the world in and provide them the tools to make measurable changes in their lives You know you come up against a lot of challenges In that process.
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What do you think will be the biggest challenge you face over the next few years?
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Oh gosh either personally professionally spiritually
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 Yeah, no, I just I really just think it's my it's it's it's my balance, you know I mean and we run I mean we run a week-long event.
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I'm once a month Yeah, we're but we're going, you know, six five in the morning till till seven eight at night and in but it doesn't matter to me because that's the easy part and
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 Being at an event is like a spiritual rave.
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I mean, our events are like nothing you'll ever see.
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I've heard, I've had so many people go that listen to our interviews and they go and they're just like, it's incredible, you have to come.
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So this year, committing, I'm sneaking in, I'm breaking through security.
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Disguising myself.
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But I mean, I have, look, I've had a lot of challenges.
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I've had a lot of challenges, just like anybody.
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I'm no different than you, you know.
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I react, you know, of course.
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 The question I have for myself is how long you're going to do that for like how long are you going to keep that up?
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Like well, you know better so so Defaulting and remembering I think is is such a great thing for us to do.
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So I work on that Um, so you might default to a reaction for you give yourself what an hour or two hours?
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No, I well I try, you know, I try to keep it under 10 15 minutes, but then of course sometimes it's easier than others just like anything else
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 What's the biggest trigger for you?
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I'm curious.
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What's the thing that gives you a default reaction that you're like, ah, I know I need to improve that.
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I think the thing that I care the most about is really just keeping this work as pure as possible.
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I think I care a lot about that.
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Do people try to muck it up or something?
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Well, there's always variations of it.
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So I guess if I was really honest, I would want to say that I would want to keep it as pure as possible.
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That's what I work on.
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 How do you keep it pure?
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What's pure mean?
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Well, just in its original version, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Your morning and evening meditation is incredible.
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I don't know if people... Well, that's a great example of metacognition.
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That's a great example of reminding yourself of who you want to be and who you no longer want to be, and then check in at the end of the day, you say, I had a whole lifetime today.
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How'd I do?
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It's incredible.
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Yeah, and your evening meditation...
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 I listen to the morning one and the evening one often and the evening one you have this thing where it's like how did I show up?
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Did I show up as my best version of myself?
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Did I do the things I said I was going to do?
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It's a beautiful reminder of having accountability.
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 Yeah, accountability is one of the three things that creates excellence.
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Accountability is basically owning what you say you're going to do or what you're asked to do.
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The other element, of course, is competence.
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You've got to be really good at it.
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And if it takes you your whole life to get good at it, get good at it.
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And if you have a vision or a mission that's bigger than you and you put those three things together, you have a lot of excellence in an individual.
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Vision bigger than you.
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You've got to be able to master your craft.
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 You got to be really accountable and responsible for yourself.
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You got to own yourself.
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And you got to have that vision.
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And you got to keep that vision alive.
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And that's heading in a direction.
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Vision, purpose, mission is ongoing.
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You could have a mission to be healthy.
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You could have a mission to be wealthy.
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You could have a mission.
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You could have a purpose to be, you know, to gain knowledge.
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There's never an end, right?
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So it's a direction.
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The goals we set up along the line of our vision.
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 It's just to remind us that we're still on course, right?
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And if we're not arriving at those goals, then we've lost our vision.
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Do you feel like each individual should have a vision statement for their personal or professional life, or just have an idea of a vision in your mind?
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No.
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I think it's really important for us to be curious.
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I mean, I'm the best when I wonder.
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Like I say, I always say, Joe Dispenza, what do you know?
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 Sit down.
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Don't turn your phone on.
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Shut it off.
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Answer the question.
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What do you know?
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Do you really believe you create reality?
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At what point do you stop believing that?
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I want to know.
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I want to think that through all the way because I think the more we understand what we're doing and why we're doing it,
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 I think the how gets easier.
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So I spend a lot of time reviewing knowledge and information and thinking about ways to teach it better or easier for people that make it more practical, more simple.
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I can tell you there's such a quickening going on in our culture right now.
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People are so ready to really embrace this information.
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They've had it doing in other ways.
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 So taking that time to really think and contemplate is such an important process because when it gets stale...
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 and it gets routine and it gets boring.
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You just forgot what you were doing and why you're doing it, right?
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And sign it back up and relearn it and get down to the basics again.
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What was the biggest discovery you found in the last five to 10 years based on practicing, trying, learning, research?
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What was the thing that was like, wow, this is a new thing or a thing I thought that was going to work and it's actually working?
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Wow.
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I don't know if we have enough time for that.
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But the research that we're doing right now, Louis,
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 We'll give you an example like a drug study, you know when you do a drug study, it's about 18 25 percent correlative cause and effect right our our studies are 75 percent cause and effect.
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There's no pharmaceutical that looks anything like our studies and the amount of wonderful metabolites
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 that are being created in people's bodies.
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What is a metabolite?
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It's like a cell is releasing information.
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Like, what is the information?
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Is it the cell is saying, I'm in growth, or I'm in trouble, I'm in emergency, I'm in disease, right?
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So, in seven days at a week-long event,
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 We discovered that people make thousands of different metabolites to show that their body is in a very different environment, a very healthy environment.
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And then when they walked in, in the beginning.
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Yeah, and dramatic changes.
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And I keep saying to the scientists,
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 Where are those chemicals coming from?
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Where are they coming from?
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They're certainly not coming from some pill that you're taking.
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It's coming from within us.
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Our nervous system is the greatest pharmacy in the world.
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I mean, you take blood from an advanced meditator that hits a certain brainwave state.
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We capture that moment of connection.
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There's information in their blood.
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 that causes them to be immune to viruses, any virus.
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 You take the blood of the advanced meditator and you subject it to a uterine cancer cell, and 70% of the energy is diminished in the cancer cell.
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Lights are out.
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That just shuts it down.
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And what do cancer cells wanna do?
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They wanna move and they wanna multiply.
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So if you take away energy, they can't move, they can't multiply.
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It's exactly what we're seeing in our testimonials.
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 You take the blood of an advanced meditator and you're subject to a neuron, it down-regulates the gene for Alzheimer's.
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There's wholeness.
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There's information in the chemistry of their blood that's not coming from anywhere out there.
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Their eyes are closed.
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 The music's playing in the background.
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They're not eating, they're not taking, they're not doing, they're sitting still.
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They're not being massaged, they're not having like liquid.
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They're not taking any injections, no IVs, no.
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They're making strong compounds in their body.
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 Within from within is that from thought into brain into heart body?
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How is that?
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No back to our original conversation about putting our attention on matter and putting our attention on energy Well a quantum field right is you know, you look at reality.
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It's a particle in the wave, right?
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Particle is matter the wave is energy okay, so
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 It's a scientific fact that we perceive less than 1% of reality.
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And as a matter of fact, the mathematics say it's 100% that we perceive less than 1% of reality.
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So don't exclude yourself from that as well.
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So we're missing out on a lot, right?
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Okay?
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So our perceptions, our faculties, are only perceiving 1% of what's actually real.
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That's exactly right, yeah.
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Yeah, it's amazing.
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So our sight, our taste, our smell, only 1% of what's actually real.
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 Wow.
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So we're missing out on a lot.
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So even if we can get to two or three percent, it'd be a whole new world.
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Called enlightenment.
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Yeah.
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So then what we teach people to do is take their attention off the particle, off matter.
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 And put it on energy.
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And you can experience that energy with your senses.
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You're going to experience it with your awareness, okay?
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So, what happens, okay?
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A person changes their brainwaves from high beta, that aroused state we talked about earlier.
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They start sensing space.
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Their brainwaves slow down to alpha.
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Why?
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Because when you're sensing,
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 you're not analyzing and thinking.
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If you're not analyzing and thinking, you're not in beta.
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So you start dropping down and the brain switches to alpha.
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And in alpha, your inner world tends to be more real than your outer world.
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Alpha is a creative state, okay?
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 So in beta, the voice in your head is always talking to you.
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Do this, do that.
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It's that default, right?
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In alpha, the voice kind of goes away and you see more in images and pictures.
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You're dreaming, right?
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You're remembering stuff and it's more imagery, right?
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So it's an imaginary state.
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 When we see people move into that state, they don't just move into any kind of alpha.
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They move into that coherent alpha.
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Now the whole brain is in cadence.
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It's sending out very strong signals, right?
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If you can get a person dialed down into theta, where they're completely relaxed, the body is so relaxed that it's resting in a light sleep.
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 Yes, and they're still awake, and they're conscious the door between the conscious mind the subconscious mind is wide open to information in fact theta is a hypnotic state um so when you're being hypnotized you're suggestible to whatever somebody's telling you right, but If you're in a meditation, and you're suggestible to information, but your eyes are closed.
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There's music playing in the background You're disconnected from your environment.
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There's only one other place information can come from and that's frequency and
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 Frequency carries information Wi-Fi signals radio waves TV waves.
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They're all carrying information in that antenna decodes it Okay, it's just kind of crazy when you think about it You know ten years ago if you just said hey, you're gonna have a physical device and you can see someone across the world Yeah, we've been like what?
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Yeah, so Star Trek right?
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It's crazy, right?
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So so so that's exactly what the brain does it?
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transduces frequency
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 into very profound experiences internally.
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And when that happens, the person is suggestible to information.
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The more coherent their brain and heart is, the more there's a resonance between the unified field, which is an orderly field, there's order, and the order in their brain, and the brain can decode frequency
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 And all of a sudden the person goes into these brilliant brilliant states of high gamma not a little gamma Not a lot of gamma what happens when we're in our highest state of gamma.
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They're in they're in a very aroused state Now the around the arousal is not fear The arousal is not pain and the arousal is not Aggression the arousal is ecstasy.
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The person is feeling a very familiar unfamiliar feeling where they've been
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 feel like they forgot something that they knew all their entire life.
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They start connecting to energy and there's no word.
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People say bliss, ecstasy, more love than I could ever explain.
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I'm so grateful to be alive.
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Transcendence, whatever.
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Whatever that is.
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And we actually can induce that state.
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 We can predict it, and we can replicate it, and the scans look exactly the same.
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It's not the thinking brain that is in that aroused state.
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The lights are out there.
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They're in theta.
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It's the limbic brain, the seat of the autonomic nervous system, that's sending such
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 fast coherent information to every single cell in the body and it's energy that's touching the cell and the person feels like they're electric.
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They feel like they're, there's an awakening that takes place.
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Now what comes with that?
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 many times, is a biological upgrade.
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Energy starts to inform matter.
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There's a tumor, now it's gone.
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There's the Parkinson's, now it's gone.
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There's the eczema, now it's gone.
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You see this all the time at events.
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Yeah, it's kind of wild.
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So what we're doing is we're drawing the blood.
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From people at the event.
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That have that experience, right after they have that experience, and 24 hours later.
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And we're finding the most incredible things in that blood.
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That's why I keep saying, where is that,
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 Where's all those chemicals coming from?
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Where are those?
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It's not from a medicine.
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It's so cool.
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It's coming from within us, right?
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So the data that we have, we did the largest microbiome study.
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 in the world actually.
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We did a thousand people and we had measured human microbiome.
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There's more cells that live in your body than the cells that make up your body and they have dramatic influences on so many different functions in our body.
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And in just our preliminary studies,
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 We saw the microbiome that's associated with cancer growth dramatically reduced.
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We saw the microbiome that's associated with inflammation dramatically reduced.
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We found the microbiome that causes a person to be resistant from treatment for cancer
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 Significantly reduced like you're just finding all this crazy stuff when these scientists are Seeing this data that they're working with the people that come into your events and they're seeing this massive reduction We're all skeptics by the way.
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Yeah, and what do they say when they see?
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Okay, there's like no no no in the beginning.
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They were running the tests the same tests
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 over and over again, expecting to get a different result.
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And I said to them, you're changing your belief.
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You're doing that right now.
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You're changing a belief right now.
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They're looking and seeing, oh my God, cells are not behaving the way they should in this plasma.
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Let's run it again.
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Let's run it again.
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Let's do it another way.
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And they tried all different ways and they're like, oh my God, this is incredible.
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We've never seen anything like this before.
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 Again, why is that important?
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The testimony of the person who stands on the stage and says, I didn't have two dollars to rub together and now I'm worth...
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 hundreds of millions of dollars.
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The person who says, I was diagnosed with stage four cancer, it was in my bones, it was in my liver, it was in my lungs, it was in my pelvic organs, is not a drop of cancer in her blood.
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This happens all the time.
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It's the four minute mile.
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It's the person in the audience who's looking at truth.
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 That person's the example of truth is right in front of them and the story is not glamorous You know, they got worse before they got better there.
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They lost things the doctors told them you're gonna die.
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I mean they had Every reason they gave up on themselves and man when you hear those stories, I mean the whole audience is in tears Invariably somebody in the room
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 is looking at them and saying, if he can do it, I can do it.
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Invariably, when we put up that data, the scientists put it up.
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I always say, I'm not saying that, I'm not saying this, the data's saying that.
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When people see that data, they're so encouraged.
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That's the truth, that's the truth.
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Like, wow, we are greater than we think.
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We're more powerful than we know.
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We're more unlimited than we could ever dream, right?
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And we're just starting.
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 to push that envelope a little bit, and we have never been disappointed.
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We do these experiments with random event generators, right?
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With what?
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A random event generator.
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Random event generator.
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So it's a sophisticated coin toss.
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You toss a coin, you keep tossing it, and the more you toss it, the more it's gonna be 50-50.
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50% heads, 50% tails.
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The more you toss it, it's gonna be the 50% average.
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So this programmed machine
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 flips a coin a thousand times in one second.
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We get a collective network of observers, a collective consciousness of people that are all resonating at the same frequency.
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We teach them how to do that.
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And the moment they go into a certain state,
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 Random events are no longer random and they become very intentional.
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In other words, they're influencing a machine that's programmed to go 50-50 to behave in a very different way.
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Their energy is somehow altering the mechanism of a machine over and over again.
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 So then, okay, so something's happening where random events are no longer random, they're becoming more intentional, and the collective network of observers that have brain and heart coherence somehow can produce measurable effects in reality.
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Okay, so then we said, God, it happened every time.
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 Let's take cells and let's program these bacterial cells to either make a red protein or a green protein.
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And it's a 50-50 shot too.
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And of course, if you look at a colony of bacteria, you see this kind of brownish color.
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And if you get really close, there's red ones and there's green ones, and it's usually 50-50.
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You get a whole group of people together and I tell them to focus on green.
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And all of a sudden, the colony of cells switch over to it.
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Come on.
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 Wow.
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So again, if you don't know that that's possible.
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You'd be skeptical.
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You'd be skeptical, but the scientists are scratching their heads saying, we're up all night trying to figure this stuff out, right?
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What are they saying is the cause of it?
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There has to be some quantum entanglement, so we're bringing in quantum theorists, theoretical physicists, information physicists.
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We have just all kinds of, we're doing functional MRIs now, we're looking at brains.
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 We can actually study brains when people are walking now.
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We're trying to piece together what exactly it is.
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To me, that's a good reason to get up in the morning.
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Learning and discovering and creating.
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Every time we do an experiment, we're never disappointed.
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The cool thing about it, more than anything else for me, is that
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 You don't have to be a Buddhist monk.
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You don't have to have 40 years of devotion.
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You don't have to, in fact, it's better off that you don't.
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A lot of guys that come that their girlfriends or their wives bring them, they're just like, hey dude, listen, I have no idea.
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I don't know anything about this.
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Those are the guys that do the best.
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Kind of forced to come.
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No, they come and they're like, I don't know anything.
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Just tell me what to do.
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They do exactly what we tell them to do.
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We had some really, really,
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 Elite forces, you know, come recently that, you know, that those guys had some rough roads, you know, with trauma and stuff.
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Completely different guys.
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Completely different guys.
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I mean, completely different.
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I'm curious your thoughts on, I have two questions.
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One that just came to me.
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 What do you think, if you could predict the future, about what is coming in terms of discoveries in this work that you're doing in the next 10 years?
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What's possible for us to even go even farther than you're seeing right now?
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I think we'll have a very strong intervention in cancer.
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 Intervention like yeah.
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Yeah, we'll have some really important data To show people that that they they can turn that around We have too many case histories and we have too much really good data right now I think we'll I think we'll change a lot with people that have chronic pain and inflammation We have great data to change anxiety and depression without any exogenous substance PTSD we have great results with that our our coherence healings where we're healing other people and
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 Blind people are seeing I mean deaf people are hearing I mean
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 People with paralyzed limbs are lifting their arms above their heads again.
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I mean, this is after 10 years of being.
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So I mean, I've seen, if you asked Joe Dispenza two years ago, do you think you'd be seeing what you'd be seeing today?
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I'd be like, maybe once or twice.
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It's just, we had so many people step out of wheelchairs at our events.
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I mean, it happens.
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It's happening over and over again.
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It's just part of the collective consciousness.
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And I think more than anything else,
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 Collective networks of observers determine reality and who controls the information the right information controls reality and so my job my interest is to give people the information to empower them to be the creator of their life and Not be stuck in the program that they need someone or something or to make them happy or to change their state I mean people are doing it all the time now and that's just Who we are as human beings, right?
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 So when you say collective network, I'm curious, can a group of people influence healing in another person?
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Like if they're all in a certain state of emotional belief?
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My answer is 100%.
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Is it 1,000 people in a room?
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No, no, just eight, seven, six people with one person.
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 And what would that group of people need to be thinking, feeling, being in order to... Oh my God, you have to come to an event, bro.
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You have to come.
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You have to come.
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It's just like hitting a golf ball.
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Just learn the formula and get really good at it.
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And we have people that are really, really good at it.
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I'm going to master this stuff.
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They can hit a target.
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 In fact, they have very little disbelief that they could do it, right?
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So belief causes them to create.
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Right, but what we've discovered, it's not the number of people with the most amount of emotion, most amount of energy.
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That's, you know, a stadium full of people and that's very entropic energy.
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It's the collective network that's sending the greatest signal.
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 That's brain and heart coherence.
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Now that's information, right?
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That's what seems to entrain matter.
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And it's learning how to send that signal with the right energy, right?
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Yeah, and it's just training.
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The seven days you go all in, I can tell you at the end of seven days you'll be different.
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I can tell you that.
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I'm excited for this.
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I'm curious, I mean mental health seems to be, you mentioned kind of anxiety, depression,
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 and these different states that people could come in with, especially people with trauma from the past, whether it be ex-military, special forces, people that see and maybe have to do certain things that they're not excited about and that has these traumas.
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Prisoners.
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Prisoners, yeah.
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Mental health just seems like something everyone's talking about with the rise of a lot of things, COVID, depression, social media, disconnection, all these different things.
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What is your stance?
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Technology.