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Hi, what s your name?
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Neve.
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What s up, Neve?
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How s it going?
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I m good.
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How are you doing?
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I m hanging in there.
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I m lizarding.
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I m lizarding it up.
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What, uh, how can I get you today, Neve?
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Um, I totally did not expect you to answer real quick.
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Um, I have pet snails.
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Pet giant African land snails.
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And where I live, they re illegal.
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And so I keep them a secret.
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a lot.
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And I usually keep track of the amount of eggs that they have.
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But I guess I missed a couple days.
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And they usually lay hundreds at a time.
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And they all hatched.
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And the other day, I found hundreds crawling around.
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And I don t know how to kill them.
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Well, so why are these snails illegal?
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I live in Canada.
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And it s like if they re
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native to Africa and if they get out they can you know ruin the ecosystem in the area.
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How did you get them?
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Some girl who like lives in a random town outside of my city had them.
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I don t know how she had them.
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You know I so like you know this Like they ll be like a bunch of Like crickets, or I m just using a random example, but like they ll be like crickets And they re like an invasive species right and so there ll be signs where it s like if you see one of these crickets kill them Because they re invaded there.
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You know what I m talking about Yeah, I always thought I always thought that was fucked up.
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I
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because it s like why hold on wait a minute so but these crickets these crickets are not morally i mean you know we can make an argument about whether or not you know like people who ve done wrong deserve to die right but um
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You know do and do do insects that have done wrong deserve to die I think pretty obviously no because that like no insect ever invaded You know the the insects are not like you know Hitler doing World War two there.
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They re not like planning this out They re just running around they just found themselves There so why are we supposed to you know kill them?
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I feel like that s fucked up.
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You know I
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Like why not let them if any I mean look humans were the most invasive species To ever exist.
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We should all kill ourselves if You know if we re trying to get rid of in space invasive theses headline therapy gecko says we should all kill ourselves But anyway, so so how many snails are we working with here?
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I
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Probably like two or three hundred.
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You have, you are currently in possession of 300 snails?
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Yeah.
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Where do you put 300 snails?
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Right now they re tiny, which is good, but that s why I don t know what to do.
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I m currently, they laid more eggs this morning and I m currently getting them out of the tank.
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You have 300 illegal snails.
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Yeah.
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How big is this tank that you re keeping them all in?
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Well, the big tank is like a big fish tank.
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I have two snails that are fully grown.
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They re the ones that had these.
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And then the babies, I m just putting them in containers.
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Um, so the government wants you to kill your snails.
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Uh, yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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So you re torn because you don t want to kill the snails, but you also, you don t want to release them because then they ll start invading stuff.
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Yeah.
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And they ll probably die if I release them anyway, too.
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Oh, so they re destined to die no matter what.
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Or you could keep them and foster them.
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Yeah.
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Why?
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Let s go back to the beginning.
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Why did you purchase illegal snails?
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Because I really like snails, and these ones get really big.
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So if you really like snails, why is it so bad to have 300 of them?
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I don t know where to put 300 snails.
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And I can t feed 300 snails.
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Could you send them back to Africa?
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That ll probably get me arrested.
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Why would that- wait, why would that get you arrested?
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Because I don t think you can be sending snails over the borders.
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But how do they get there?
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I don t know.
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All right.
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So I need to find the people who brought them here in the first place.
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Alright.
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So you have 300 baby snails.
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So the only option, I guess, would be to kill all 300 of them.
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Or not the only option.
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I m sure we can find a way out of this, but you re considering killing 300 baby snails because you can t hold on to them.
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You can t let them out into the wild and you can t send them back to their home.
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Yeah.
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Wait, this is kind of like that movie.
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This is kind of like that movie 300, right?
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I don t know that movie.
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Okay, I haven t seen it.
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It s probably not like that at all.
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But what were you thinking to do?
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What are you leaning towards?
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I think I just have to kill them.
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I don t know.
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I kind of knew this was gonna happen.
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But I was I didn t think they were all gonna hatch.
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I thought I would just be able to maybe kill that like the eggs when they were still eggs.
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But then I lost track and they all hatched.
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And so now there s so many tiny baby snail faces looking at me.
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And it s hard to kill them.
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Why did you buy them in the first place if you knew you were gonna have to kill them?
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Well, I thought I would just like get you know, find them when they were eggs and then be able to kill the eggs Oh, so you were gonna buy them and then kill their babies That s usually how it s done that s kind of fucked up But
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Otherwise, I mean someone else was gonna do it.
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So I might I was You know They re already here like the snails are already here like this there when they have babies they re gonna die anyways, whether they re in the wild or I Mean you could say that about every organism every organisms gonna die anyway Yeah What could you eat them?
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They do that in France.
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I
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Mmm.
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Yeah, I guess like you could eat eat them.
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They re I Don t think I I feel like that would be more cruel to eat my pets babies Why would that be more cool?
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I feel like it s less cruel because like if you just kill them just to kill them Like we kill things and eat them all the time this would be pretty normal.
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Mm-hmm.
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You re just killing chicken Like you chicken sandwich except you re eating a snail Yeah
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This might- every time I tell people this, it sounds really bad, but I thought like, you know, I would- like, I would kill the eggs, you know, crush them, and then I could- I could feed them back to my snails.
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It s a lot of nutrients.
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It s good protein, and they will grow.
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That s what so many people do.
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That s what they tell me to do online.
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People online tell you
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to kill your snail s babies and then feed your snail s dead babies to the snails?
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They don t know.
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They don t know.
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It s yummy to them.
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It s like a protein shake.
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Wait, these snails enjoy eating their own dead babies?
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I mean, yeah, they don t know.
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It s just like, it s just a snack to them.
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In that case, I think these snails are sickos and you should kill them.
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Okay.
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And then when you re killing them, you don t have to feel bad because you can be like, well, these guys were about to eat their own dead babies and that s fucked up.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Why did you do any of this?
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Do you have any other hobbies?
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What do you do with your life?
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Who are you?
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I don t do anything.
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I just, I have snails.
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I really love snails.
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I used to collect snails all the time.
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And then I found out you could, there are giant snails you can get and I wanted to get giant snails.
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These are the giant snails?
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Yeah.
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How big are they?
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Can you send me a picture of these snails?
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Like, can you text it to the phone line?
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Sure.
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Where in Africa are they from?
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Like, what are they called?
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They re called giant African land snails.
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Giant African land snails.
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Okay, I m gonna, um... Let me Google giant African land snails.
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Giant African snail.
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Oh wait, these are huge.
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Yo, these are huge snails.
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Yeah.
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Okay, so for those who are listening on the audio, there s a picture that I have, that I m looking at, of a snail that fits on a person s hand.
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Yeah, that s about the size of mine.
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Okay, these are giant snails.
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And right, how long until they become this big?
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Um, like a year, a year or two.
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Alright, so you have a year until...
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these snails become this many of 300 of these?
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Yeah.
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Jesus, man.
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Yeah, I ll send you a photo.
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I don t know if it went through.
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Oh, you sent a photo?
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Alright, let me look at this picture.
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Um... One second.
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Um... Okay, I... I did not get your snail picture, but that s okay.
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I m looking.
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I got a reference of my own on, uh... Okay.
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On Google.
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Um... Yeah, dude.
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Uh... Maybe... I mean, shit, does anyone... You can t sell them, right?
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Because then you re trafficking snails.
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Yeah... I don t know.
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I could maybe find the girl that gave them to me and see if she wants them.
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How did you get in touch with this girl that gave you the snakes?
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I mean the snails.
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Do you know the website Kijiji?
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No, not at all.
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I m not familiar with any snail marketplace website.
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No, no, no.
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I think it s like a Canadian thing.
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It s like eBay kind of.
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Okay.
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It s like just a
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Place where people post on like things online they re selling and she was just had a listing for these snails on there How long did you buy them from her?
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Um, bought them April 2022 Oh, so you ve had these fucking snails for two years?
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Yeah Wait, so how
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So they re already that big?
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Yeah.
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So you have 300 of those giant snails?
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No, no, no.
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They, they only, I bought, sorry, I bought two baby ones from her two years ago.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay.
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So right now you have, wait, okay.
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All right.
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So you have two giant snails, but they just had 300 babies.
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Yeah.
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Okay, all right, so you bought a guy and a girl?
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Well, they re hermaphrodites, so they don t have a gender, really.
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They can produce asexually or sexually.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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Jesus, man.
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Yeah, you re going to have to kill those babies.
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Yeah.
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I m going to ask the chat if they have any questions for you.
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I m just glad I m in Canada and I won t get in trouble for destroying lives.
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I mean, look, you re going to have to deal with the Lord at the gates of St.
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Peter, but someone said, oh, this is actually a good idea.
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Are there any universities or groups that can take them?
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Maybe, but I might get in trouble if they know I have these here.
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there s no like snail you know how okay so like oh wait okay how about this okay so sometimes I go to when I go to the so sometimes when I go to the airport there s like a marijuana amnesty box where it s like all right look we know that you you know you got weed on you but if you just put it in this box you re cool right is there like a is there like a snail amnesty box hmm
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I don t know, I ll have to look it up.
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Google, Google snail amnesty box.
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Yeah, okay.
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We ll do that.
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Alright, let s see what the chat has to say.
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Oh, someone asked if you can make them into a soup.
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Yeah, that s, yeah, you could.
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Probably.
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Someone asked, would you get arrested if you were caught for this?
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Like, do you, are you familiar with the, what are the actual consequences?
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Could you get arrested?
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I d probably just get like a fine Since I only have them.
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Maybe if I was Yeah, it s probably just a fine.
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How much is the fine?
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Oh Gosh, I don t know How much are 300 baby snails lives worth to you?
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I feel like if if I let them out into the wild I would get a really big fine or something, you know, but Or if I was selling them to people I get in a lot of trouble, but I don t know
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I don t know.
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I didn t control how many they had.
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That s their fault.
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Someone says you could put them in a box and take them to an orphanage.
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That s something.
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I could.
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I feel like the orphanage might get scared and not know what it is.
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People, a bunch of people in the chat are saying do not release them, but I think, um, why not?
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What do you, here s, what, okay, what s gonna happen if you release them?
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What are they gonna do?
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Uh, well, I live in Canada, so it s really cold right now.
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So they would just die immediately anyways.
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Oh, all right.
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Yeah.
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So they were going to die anyway.
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Yeah.
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I don t know why you bought these snails, man.
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They make me so happy.
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Are they making you happy right now?
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No, I m a bit frustrated with them.
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What s wrong?
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Well, I guess what s so wrong?
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Can t you buy normal snails?
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What was so bad about... Why were regular snails not enough for you, so you had to buy these snails?
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These ones are so big.
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Isn t that cool?
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What s your name again?
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Neve.
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Well, Neve, what are you gonna do before we go?
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I m gonna reflect on my actions.
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I m going to be more careful and make sure the eggs don t hatch.
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That s what I m going to do.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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I ve been watching you for so long.
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beginning of COVID.
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So it s very cool to talk to you.
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It s cool to talk to you too.
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I would hope that if you kept me in a, you know, terrarium, and you found out that I was illegal, that you would kill me and end my suffering.
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Okay, that s good to know.
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Thank you for calling Neve.
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Thank you.
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Bye.
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Imagine having 300 illegal little lizards.
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I feel like if it was lizards, I would have been, I would have gone harder on her.
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Just cause like that s personal for me.
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But uh, yeah, you know, uh, eat those snails.
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I went, I went, I ate snails once I was in Paris many years ago and I ate some snails and they re pretty good.
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So maybe, maybe just eat the snails.
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Hey folks, this is Lyle.
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I am very excited to announce that I am going back on tour in 2024 to do Therapy Gecko Live all across the country.
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If you ve never been to one of my live shows before, they are extremely fun, unpredictable, wild evenings that involve a mix of group gecko therapy sessions as well as some material and presentations from myself.
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And if you ve been to the show before, I have new presentations and will, of course, be interviewing new people.
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If you re a fan of the podcast, you re gonna have a great time at the live show, so I hope to see you guys there.
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Go to therapygeckotour.com or check the link in the episode description for a full list of cities where tickets are available.
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Also, if you don t see your city on the list of cities, please still click the link and RSVP with your phone number so I can contact you when tickets go on sale for your city because I m going to announce a bunch more dates very soon.
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Geck bless.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Hello.
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What s your name, sir?
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My name is Delta.
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Delta.
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Or that s what I go by.
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Like Delta 9, like Delta 9, Delta 8, what s the legal weed shit?
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Exactly, yeah, Delta 9.
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Delta 9.
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Yeah.
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Well, Delta, how can I get you today?
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What s going on?
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Oh, man.
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Sorry, I m a little nervous.
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I didn t think I would actually get on.
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Let s see.
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I texted you.
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saying that I m addicted to doing crime.
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And I think it s because of my childhood trauma.
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So I m a graffiti writer.
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I actually am friends with that dude Smiler that you talked to that fell off a billboard.
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Yeah, I know exactly what you re talking about.
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Yeah, I was actually thinking about this because we did a graffiti call a few months ago where this guy, he graffitied a fucking... That guy totally deserved it because he was graffitying an orphanage billboard or something and he falls off the billboard.
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I was there with him.
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I was on top of the billboard and I watched him fall.
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It wasn t an orphanage billboard.
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It was actually a blank billboard.
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Sometimes when they are switching out ads and nobody has bought the billboard, it s just blank, it s black.
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So that s what we re gonna do.
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So I assume, is graffiti the only crime that you re addicted to committing?
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Is there any other crimes that you want to admit on this podcast?
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Sure.
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I mean, stealing kind of goes with graffiti, so I m addicted to that.
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I m addicted, I guess, to driving fast.
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I like drifting.
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But I do it relatively safe now.
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I m not as reckless as I was when I was younger.
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I, uh, go up to the mountains in the middle of the night and drift up there with my friends.
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Um, I m just addicted to like high risk, like adrenaline fueled activities.
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Uh, and yeah, I don t know.
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And you feel like, and you feel like this is linked to your childhood.
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I think so because I was, um,
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always in like a fight or flight kind of mindset when I was younger, and I think these activities are a way for me to kind of feel that way, but in a controlled environment, if that makes sense, in a somewhat controlled environment.
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In an environment that I put myself in, let s say that.
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Hmm, okay.
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So you re trying to summon your fight or flight in a situation that you have control over.
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I guess so, yeah.
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I mean, yeah, on the surface level is just I enjoy doing these things and they re fun to do.
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But yeah, when I like think deeper on it, and talking to like my therapist, I think it s linked to that.
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Okay, do these like situations they create trouble for you?
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Um, I mean, yeah, I, uh, have gotten arrested for graffiti a few times.
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Um, I ve crashed multiple cars drifting and spent lots of money on, you know, cars and stuff.
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But at the end of the day, like I don t regret any of it.
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I, I still enjoy doing these things and I think I ll continue to do them.
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But as I, you know, keep fucking up, I, uh, learn through my mistakes and learn how to do these things in a smarter,
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Safer way.
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So the things that you re doing these are like drifting with cars and like motorcycles and shit like that No, I do really want to get a motorcycle But I know that I m very reckless and I think I would die if I got a motorcycle Okay, so you re drifting with cars Yeah drifting in cars
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So, um, I ve talked about this on the podcast before, I think, but I am addicted to watching horrible internet videos.
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Yeah, I ve gotten into that loophole too.
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there is a Twitter page called it s called I Fuck it.
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This is my life.
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It s called FAFO underscore TV.
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It s fuck around and find out TV and it is a Twitter page dedicated to people pretty much exactly like you who
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Kind of fuck around and find out people like who for some like the videos will open with like a dude riding a bicycle off of a roof and Finding out you know or like people you know who are driving their cars and in a crazy reckless way and Finding out you know yeah, so you ve been fucking around with with a solid success rate
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But soon, you will find out.
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That s what happens to those who fuck around.
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You know?
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Yeah, I ve found out, but maybe not to, like, the super extreme.
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I mean, I flipped a car on its roof in the mountains and completely totaled it and got very lucky by only walking away with, like, a couple scratches.
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You know, I ve watched my friend fall off a billboard almost to his death.
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I ve been in many situations that are very close to
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you know, serious consequences.
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I know my risk.
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And you plan to continue doing these things that are edging you towards very serious consequences?
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I guess so, yeah.
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Why?
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I don t know.
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As I get older, I m definitely being more conscious and
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safe with my decisions like like like what like tell me tell me something you have planned to do that is an example of one of these behaviors okay so for drifting I am planning to once I fix my car I m planning to go to the track a lot more and really like get my skills down on the track I m still gonna drift in the streets but I m just gonna
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not do it as much.
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What is drifting?
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What exactly is drifting in the streets?
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What does that mean?
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Well, for me, I like going up into the mountains on like curvy, like mountain roads and finding a good couple of corners and just kind of drifting through those corners with my friends and we ll like tandem with each other.
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So we ll try to like, you know, get really close to each other while we re sideways, essentially like drifting.
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And it s like the art of like controlling your car while it s sideways.
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You know how like, I don t know if you ve ever like hit a big puddle while you re driving thing and it kind of like makes you slip out.
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It s like that, but on purpose.
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That sounds really stupid.
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It s a lot of fun.
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It is pretty stupid, but it s a lot of fun.
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Yeah, you re going to die doing that.
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You re so- that s the stupidest- that s one of the stupidest things I ve ever heard of.
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Me and my friends go up to a mountain.
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Do you do this at night?
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Yeah, at night.
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You me and my friends go up in a mountain in the middle of the night and we drive really fast right next to each other on windy roads.
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It s really stupid.
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It s so fun though.
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Fucking so is playing video games, man.
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Yeah, but I don t know.
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It doesn t give me that same- Well, it s also really stupid because- here s another thing is like if you want to kill yourself, you know, you as a human being have the- you can do that.
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It s the right that you have.
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It s bodily autonomy.
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But you don t risk killing other people.
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Well, no, I m not- that s why we go in the night.
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Because then there s nobody else on the roads.
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Plus at night you can see oncoming headlights.
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So if for some reason there is somebody coming, we ll see them.
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like multiple corners ahead and will know to stop.
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Um... Well, uh... Yeah, no, I think this is really dumb.
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Well, do you... Are you... Do you... Are you aware that you re gonna die if you keep doing this?
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I don t think I m gonna die.
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I think, um... It s safer than you d imagine.
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Like, I have a friend that snapped an axle while he was drifting and he, like, fell off the cliff, basically.
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in his Miata and I mean, his car sustained like no major damage.
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It broke like a tie rod and he was able to fix it.
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And yeah, like it, it sounds really crazy.
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But when you re up there doing it, it s a lot safer than you d imagined it to be.
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You know, I m actually so you might have heard this but I had this very very similar phone call a Few months ago with a guy who liked to ride his motorcycle crazy fast Yeah, I remember that one.
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Yeah, and this is a similar thing and I told that guy he was a fucking idiot Yeah, well the thing with motorcycles is there s no huge metal shell around you to protect you it s just you
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and the elements so that s why I haven t gotten a motorcycle because of that and I think I will die if I get a motorcycle yeah I told my friends to like take it away from me if I ever do get one I m conflicted about this because I m telling you not to do it but I also you know I kind of want you to so that way I I see you on on the fuck around and find out Twitter page and I m like oh shit I know
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Yeah, if you ever see a red BMW.
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No, I actually am conflicted about it because, uh, I actually am conflicted about it because, like, I, well, like there s
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Like, there are, like, extreme sports.
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There s, like, professional motocross motherfuckers, and, like, race car drivers, and, like, you know, like, the jackass guys.
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Like, there are people who professionally have learned to do stupid things, which I guess makes it a legitimate thing to do.
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But, like, why?
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But they don t do it, like, in public.
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Like, just stick to the track.
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You know, why just stick to the track?
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I mean, I m sure most of them learned on the street.
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There s professional drifters, too.
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And most of them learned on the streets.
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Maybe not in the mountains, but, you know, they ll find, like, whatever they have near them, roads.
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But just why do you have to do it in public where, like, other people can, like, get fucked up?
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I mean, because the track is expensive.
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And it s far away.
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That s so dumb.
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That s so dumb.
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I don t want you to think I m, like, trying, like,
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I m
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I just don t fuck with that kind of thing.
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I really don t I really like don t I mean for me personally I don t like to do anything where I can get like fucked up and then for other people it s like It s not cool to do things where like You know like other people can get fucked up like imagine someone at the bottom of the mountain they re just taking a little midnight walk and a rolling car just crushes them and
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I highly doubt somebody would be walking on those roads in the middle of night, but I see your point I for sure see I ve gotten you know when I was I just don t like that kind of shit I mean, I m like I said I m addicted to watching these videos and I m watching these videos and I m like I do not understand these people who Do this kind of shit?
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Yeah, no, I get it.
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I feel it.
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But I mean, whatever, man.
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It s it s I don t know.
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I don t know.
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I feel like I already did this call with the with the motorcycle guy.
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And I could yeah, I said to him to you but you know, I don t know how worth it that would be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I m it s probably it s probably not a good part of those videos those like fuck around and found out find out videos I feel less bad about them because it like it really is people fucked around and found out like there s this one video of a dude who s like Sticking his hand.
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He s literally sticking his hands in a lion cage
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that s exactly the video i was thinking you were gonna say yes i know you know that video and like and the lion like like like like like bites like like like goes at goes it goes at his hand and he like takes his hand out and at that point
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you got away free at that point most people most people wouldn t be doing that in the first place but most people would leave and stop doing it but this guy puts his hand back into the lion s cage the lion grabs his fucking finger dude and and rips his finger off and it s like the tendon comes out like a mozzarella stick and you know normally but and it s like dude mother the guy stuck his hand in the lion cage you know
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Yeah I mean, it s a lot of those like war videos are like innocent people getting hit by cars and shit But that s that s the thing.
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I guess I admire about the fuck around and find out pages that it s it s It really is people who you re like Dude, what are you doing?
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Just just jumping off of roofs and shit.
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I don t know anyway Yeah, have you seen the ones of like people at?
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sideshows we re like
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It s a big group of people drifting at an intersection and people get hit and they go flying like bowling pins.
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I m amazed that you watch this page and it hasn t got you to be like, I should stop doing this.
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I find that amazing.
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If anything, it just teaches me how to be a little bit safer about what I do.
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Well, it was nice knowing you, man.
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What s your name?
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Delta.
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Delta, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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No, thank you for taking my call.
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I hope you have a good rest of your night.
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Shout out ha GD shout out YPC shout out friends crew I Don t know all those people Should stop doing whatever they re doing and go with the paint in the room Groups of like-minded people having fun in this world.
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I
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Groups of like-minded people making the streets far more dangerous for pedestrians and civilian drivers alike.
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I hope they stop doing that.
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These are graffiti writers.
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They re making the streets more beautiful.
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They re putting color on the walls.
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I m going to do a, I promise you, I m going to do a Therapy Gecko piece for you.
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Actually, that would be kind of cool.
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That d be sick.
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Where?
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Where?
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It s in the Bay Area in Oakland.
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Shit, I ll wait do it before I um do it, but I m coming to the Bay Area in June do it before I come I know I have tickets to your show.
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Oh you do Yeah, me and my friend was trying to go last time smiley the guy that fell off the billboard and he got sick and didn t go But wait actually actually can you if you decide to do it?
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Can you DM me because I might end up hanging out in the Bay Area for a couple days before the show and if you do it I want to see it
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Yeah, I got you.
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Okay, but also but also also if you like get arrested for it, I had nothing to do with it I ll take you drifting too if you want to come Damn maybe dude.
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What if what if the one time that I come along is where it goes wrong and we all die.
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No I ever have passengers in the car.
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I m like, oh
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thirty times more safe about it.
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Yeah, I m gonna play I m gonna play video games in my hotel You can you can drive off the side of a mountain if you so desire, but let me know Thanks for calling Delta see you around the universe
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Yeah, I m never going to get in a car with that guy, but if he wants to, you know, draw graffiti on a, under a bridge in my name, that, that actually sounds kind of cool, but illegal.
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And I do not endorse illegal behavior.
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I am a gecko.
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Hey folks, this is Lyle.
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I m jumping in here to talk about this next phone call because it s not actually a phone call.
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It s actually a conversation that I had with a person in real life.
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So here s what s going on with me.
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I ve been trying to leave my house more.
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And I used to do, I haven t done one of these since June of last year in Australia, but I used to do a lot of these interviews where I would go out into the world with some chairs and a Zoom recorder and a microphone and my iPhone and just set up with a sign that says, talk to a real gecko and chat with people who are down to come chat with me.
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And so this past Monday I went to a little park in Brooklyn and I set up all my shit and I talked to some people.
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And you can find the full video of this on my YouTube channel, youtube.com slash LyleForever.
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But what I m about to play for you now is a little excerpt
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from that interview session that I had with a dude who works for he like helps film this travel TV show and he had a bike and he had long hair which you won t be able to see because it s just an audio interview but it was a cool conversation I hope you enjoy it and I m probably gonna do a lot more of these things
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So get used to it, I hope you like it.
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I m going out into the universe, I m talking to everyone, it s gonna be good.
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And all right, I m gonna just play it.
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And thanks for listening to my podcast.
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What s up, man?
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What s your name?
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I m Thomas.
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Nice to meet you, Thomas.
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Nice to meet you.
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What are you doing?
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I picked a very unemployed time to set up in the park.
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It s 3.30 p.m.
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on a Monday.
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Prefer the term fun employed.
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What are you unemployed?
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Um, no, I do gig work.
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Oh cool.
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Like a film and TV Nice, so I work on a travel show what travel show it s called Samantha Brown s places to love Okay about it or is it you in the air?
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No, I can we can talk about it We haven t shot anything in like I don t know five six months.
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Okay, cuz it s like seasonal Samantha Brown say it again
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Places to Love.
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It s on PBS.
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Oh, cool.
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Where does she go?
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All over the place.
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We do a lot of stuff in the States.
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So I started with them like three years ago as a photographer.
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And COVID was a thing because it was like 2021.
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So all of our travel was domestic.
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And then
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We went to Ireland last fall.
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Sorry, no, 2022.
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That was the first domestic trip I did with them.
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Before COVID, they did a bit more international stuff, but I just wasn t on the team.
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Um, but yeah, so I ve been with them for a few years.
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Now I m doing like some like third camera work as well.
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So small team kind of get to do a lot, which is fun, but yeah, so we go, uh, we start shooting in a couple of weeks.
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Oh, where are you going to go?
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Uh, crystal coast.
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Is that what s called in North Carolina?
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Like coastal North Carolina.
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Um, it s like, I don t know if you ve ever seen that famous white lighthouse.
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No, it s like one in North Carolina.
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Is it the one from Seinfeld?
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I don t think so.
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You know what I m talking about?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That s the only famous lighthouse I know.
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That s fair, that s fair.
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And then we re going to New Orleans, which you probably do know.
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Yeah, well I ve been around the states, but I ve never been to New Orleans.
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It s a cool town.
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I ve been a little bit.
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I m excited to go, because usually we get behind the scenes access, so they take us cool places.
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Because I want to do a travel show.
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I mean, this is my version of a travel show.
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What s she do?
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What s her show?
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Well, so she s like a legit TV personality.
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So she was on the Travel Channel for like 25 years.
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She had like her own shows and was... I think wanted more control over like the content of the show.
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So now she and her husband kind of co-produced the show.
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So she s the host, he s the executive producer.
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They do everything kind of in-house.
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Which is cool.
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Do they put it on YouTube?
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It s all on PBS.
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So it s all free on the PBS app.
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Or their websites.
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But they own the show.
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Which is cool.
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You re actually looking to get more into YouTube.
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Oh, that is cool.
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I m curious about this.
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So she s been doing this for 25 years, right?
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Yeah.
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Now, after 25 years, haven t you seen everything?
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Fair enough.
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I really do feel that way.
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I m really like, after 25 years, how do you stay excited?
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I mean, I guess that s a question for her, but I m curious what you think.
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Yeah, fair enough.
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No, I mean, I ve been fortunate enough to travel a lot in the last few years.
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I mean, on a much smaller scale than her.
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But yeah, I don t know.
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You definitely start to have to find value in the little parts of travel and the things that, like, you know, I think I like people.
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I like meeting people when traveling, and I think there s something cool about, like,
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I don t know.
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You interact with people that their life might be totally different than yours, might function in a completely different sphere of the world, and yet here you are interacting for some reason or another.
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I just think that s kind of cool.
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And I think you tend to cross more paths with more strangers when you re traveling for some reason.
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That s true.
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Yeah, that s true.
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Do you travel a lot independently of your job?
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Sometimes, it depends.
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I mean, I did a big road trip last summer.
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Where d you go?
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It was kind of like my own personal trip.
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So I m from upstate New York, like two hours north of here.
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Cool.
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So I started there, and I did like a giant loop all the way around the country, like all the way to LA and back, basically.
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Hit the rest of the states I hadn t been to, so now I m at 49 out of 50.
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I got to go to Hawaii.
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Oh.
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Did you go by yourself, or did you go with homies?
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Yeah, it was just me.
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Really?
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So it was a cool idea.
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I went for like six weeks.
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It was like 10,000 miles.
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It was a big trip.
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So I feel like road trips are less like vacation and more adventure.
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Did you get lonely?
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For sure.
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I mean, in the middle there, I kind of mixed in some family and friends.
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My mom s from Utah, so I saw some family out in Utah that I haven t seen in a while, and friends up and down California.
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And then on the way back, it was a couple chunks in the middle, basically, where I was solo.
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So it s interesting, I ve done a lot of solo travel myself, but I feel like America is not great for solo travel.
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And I don t know what you think about that, because I mean, in like, you know, Europe and other places, there s like hostels you can stay in and meet people like that.
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Yeah, and they re like dirt cheap, yeah.
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Yeah, but like, if you travel in America, it s just you and your car kinda.
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For sure, I definitely camped a lot, so I got a little tent.
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I did sleep in my car a few times, just so sometimes it s like easier.
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Like I went to like national parks, so I would try and get up at like,
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Sunrise and it was much easier to like not have to pack up a tent that was all kind of dewy I could just like turn on the car and just go But yeah, it was it was a good time and I think I feel like it s a it s a good way to see the country if you got the time I think a road trip is like one of the best ways to see America because if you re from somewhere else and you just come here to New York or You just go to LA or whatever like there s there s a lot to be seen but I think
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I don t know.
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I don t think you get the heart of it.
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I feel like there s a lot of soul in the middle of nowhere.
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Where would you want to go next?
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Where s your next personal trip?
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I m really interested in Central and South America.
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I really don t speak any Spanish, so that would be a good start.
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But one of my really, really close friends is from Costa Rica, or lives in Costa Rica.
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So I might start there, go see him.
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But I don t know, nothing on the books as of now.
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I m staying open.
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Interesting.
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So you haven t shot anything in six months?
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I mean I ve done like other, I ve been doing other work.
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I haven t just been like sitting around.
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Oh okay, that s what I was wondering.
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You ve just been chilling.
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Each winter s been a little different.
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Sometimes it s film stuff, sometimes it s not.
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Like I ve been doing this, I ve been doing some driving for this telecom startup.
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So it s really random, but I like hop in a car and there s a box of routers on the roof with SIM cards in them, like in your phone.
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And it just every 60 seconds like runs a speed test and gets the very geo-specific data for how fast each carrier is.
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So it s like independent third-party data, I guess like verifying, you could call it.
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But I mean, I m not doing any like the tech stuff.
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I m just sitting in a rental car like driving around Las Vegas for eight hours a day for six days in a row.
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Oh, so you do these gigs where you like go to a place and you re fucking working for like six weeks straight and then you come back and you chill.
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So you work and then you chill.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I was actually talking to a friend.
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You re not like a real 9-to-5 working everyday shit.
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I feel like I work, it s inconsistent like up and down, but I was talking to a friend recently and it s kind of like, you know, it s like the go hard or go home.
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I feel like I go hard and then go home.
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I feel like I get both, which I like.
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I mean that s kind of been the flexibility that I ve enjoyed of film and TV production in general.
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It s definitely a little stressful sometimes and there s
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no consistency in my life at all.
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But, you know, I think for now, like, it s definitely working.
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You know what?
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I like that, right?
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Because I like that.
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Because the saying is, go hard or go home.
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But why not both?
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You go hard and then you go home.
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Exactly.
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That s what it should be.
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It s in, like, waves.
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Yeah.
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So I feel like I ve been very lucky the last few years.
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Like, it s just been like, you know, I m three years out of college, so.
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Three?
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Yeah, 2021.
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I feel like I ve been very lucky to have a fairly eventful few years.
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What s making you enjoy life on just a day-to-day basis?
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Well, I just moved here, so the change of scenery has been quite nice.
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Let s see, I, yeah, when did we move here?
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Like the end of February?
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So, me and my buddy, I m living with my friend Patrick.
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What s up, Pat?
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Shout out, Patrick.
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Pat is like my oldest friend.
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And he and I have known each other since we were like, I don t know, 11, 12, something like that.
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So we grew up together and then this is the first time we ve lived together.
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So he s gotten a new job, like I m in a new place, we re both in a new place.
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Like it s been pretty exciting.
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You know, get to bike around new places instead of the same place.
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What what do you hope for the future?
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What s what s keeping you going for the future?
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I don t know.
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I feel like I I Don t know like a consistent paycheck would be nice.
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Yeah I mean, I m excited to be the travel show starting again.
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Like I said, so like I ll be I ll be doing that again But uh, I don t know there s there s part of me that s definitely in at a point where I m definitely kind of feeling like a crossroads like I might
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Take a year or two to slow down a little bit.
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What are the two roads?
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Well, the two roads are, like, one, to continue what I ve been doing, like, do the, like, film and, like, keep sticking with the gig work and, like, you know, just be a little more stressed for now and hope it pays off in the future.
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But, I mean, it s still enjoyable, for sure.
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It s a cool experience.
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But I also have an opportunity to do more with this, like, telecom company that I was talking about.
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I might do more, like, project management with them.
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Do you make your own movies?
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I make my own little, like, shorts and stuff.
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Tell me about the last movie that you made.
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I set myself a challenge for this year to make one video every month.
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Because I do have other things, and I could say once a week, and I just know that won t happen.
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No, that s a great challenge to set.
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And the concepts are broad.
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It s not meant to be a super challenging.
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Every one s going to be a little different.
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So I made one in February that was kind of just about the concept of the leap day, and the idea of treating it like a bonus day, and how I think we have a lot more control in our perception of the world than we think sometimes.
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And I think that there s a lot to be said for saying, this is a bonus day, giving yourself the space to just enjoy little things in life.
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What d you do with your leap day?
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Um, I unpacked because it was like five days after, like, not even, it was like a couple days after I moved in.
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So mine, mine, uh, was not as exciting.
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You know, I wasn t like laying on a beach or anything, but, uh, you know, I think, uh, it was, it was still like settling into the new place, which felt good.
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So, um, but.
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Yeah.
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In terms of the future, I m just looking forward to seeing what comes next.
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It s exciting to live in New York.
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I ve always been near New York.
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I went to school in Boston.
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You seem like an excited guy.
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It seems like you re doing well.
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I feel very fortunate, yeah.
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I feel quite positive about whatever s coming.
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I don t know.
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I don t worry too much about it.
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Have you never been a worrier?
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Warrior a warrior.
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No, I think I was like a lot more anxious as a kid.
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Yeah, I Think I ve I think I have my moments for sure.
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So what changed to make you feel Right now yeah, it s so crazy cuz like I ve probably talked about this to death on my shows and stuff but um, I
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It s crazy because for some people it just causes debilitating anxiety and for other people it cures it.
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I have friends who went from one to the other.
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They used to be fine and now anytime they re high they re freaking out.
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It s a very weird thing.
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I feel like everyone s got their own relationship with it.
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I feel like it just made things a little slower, made things a little easier to just not worry too much about.
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I wish that we d worked for me, I really did, because then I would love to be like stoned right now doing this, but I couldn t, I could never.
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Well, I feel like, I don t know, I feel like hosting, like especially it s like a stranger walks up, and even like, I kind of like know who you are, right?
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Like I ve obviously never met you.
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So like, it s kind of like, you have to go make someone comfortable and like, you know, initiate something.
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But like, even if I was like, if you were, like you re talking on the thing right now, if I like, I would be, you know, I guess I d be anxious, I think.
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Sure, I mean, I was a little bit at first, but I saw you and I was kind of like... You seem chill as hell.
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The whole bike thing was a little chaotic.
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That was a little much.
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But I don t know.
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You want to go next?
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Nice coat.
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That coat is awesome.
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It is a cool coat.
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Thanks, man.
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You too.
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God bless you.
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That was a really cool coat.
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It is a cool coat.
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It s made of like feathers and stuff.
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People around here are so stylish.
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It s awesome.
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Yeah, dude.
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I really didn t rock my best fit to be on camera today.
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No, you look great with the gloves.
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I m so comfy.
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I m super comfy.
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No, this chair, it looks shitty, but it s actually pretty cool.
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For sure, yeah.
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And it fits in like a little bag.
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Nice, it s so easy to take everywhere.
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Do you like live here or do you like travel around?
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In the park?
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I mean, I don t know, dressed like this, you know, you re just like climbing up a tree somewhere.
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I m not joking.
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I kind of live here.
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I m like Airbnb-ing around.
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I don t really live anywhere.
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Okay, cool.
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Yeah, fair enough.
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You just like take these all over the place?
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Yeah, that s what I want to do.
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You ve inspired me.
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I ll tell you about my struggles right now.
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I m trying to decide, should I commit to being in New York and just live a normal person life?
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Or should I be like, you know what?
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I m still young.
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I m going rogue.
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Let s go rogue.
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What the hell am I doing here?
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I can do my job from anywhere in the world.
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It s tough.
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It s a dichotomy.
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Why don t I go to Thailand or Puerto Rico or Alaska or all that stuff, you know?
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So I m trying to figure out what the hell to do because I ve done that before, but you come back and your life is still there.
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As The Clash would say, should I stay or should I go now?
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Yes.
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Should I stay or should I go?
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But here s the thing, and here s what I think the answer might be.
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Go hard, and then go home.
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Exactly.
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That s a t-shirt.
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Maybe we need that on a shirt.
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Go hard, and then go home.
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Like on the back, and then go home.
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I like that.
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All right, well, we can put the profits on that.
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Perfect.
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What s your name again?
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Thomas.
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Thomas, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer?
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Don t wait for things, just go try.
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I d rather have it go badly and learn from that than not know.
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I feel like that s what I d say.
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If that made sense.
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Gek, bless you, Thomas.
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That did make sense.
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Sweet.
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That did make sense.
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All right, cool.
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Thanks, dude.
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This was fun.
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Yeah, this was fun, man.
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Thanks for...
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I m glad we re crashing it Thanks for crashing it.
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Yeah, we we I think we think we we figured it all out.
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Everything went okay in the end, right?
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All right.
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Well, good luck with your day.
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Thank you, brother Good luck with the rest of your bike ride.
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I hope you burn many calories I