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Today s theme is stop caring about what people think.
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and the signs that we care too much about what people think.
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Now, the reason I dove into this topic is because I think we ve all had a situation with our friends where someone sends a decision they re about to make to the group chat and they say, what do you think I should say on my dating profile?
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Or what do you think about this guy that I m dating?
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Or what do you think about this job opportunity that s out there?
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Or what do you think about what I should wear to the party this weekend?
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Now, there s nothing wrong about that.
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It s harmless.
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It s totally normal.
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It s natural for us to seek validation from the people around us, to seek insight from the people around us.
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But often what we find is that we ve gone down a hole
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where we make decisions, choices, and big directives in our life based on what other people think.
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A lot of us when we re young chose subjects at school based on what our parents taught.
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We chose where we went to college maybe because of some friends.
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We maybe even chose what city we live in because we were in a romantic relationship until it didn t work out.
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And so many of our decisions, some of our biggest decisions in life are made aligned with other people s values and not always with our own values.
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And this episode is all about us really getting clear on that.
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It s not bad to make a decision based on someone else s value if that value aligns with us.
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It s not bad if we re conscious and aware, but it s really important that we recognize it.
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So I want to talk to you a bit about the signs that we care too much about what other people think of us, because sometimes it can be so subtle, right?
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It s not always so obvious as you buy the same clothes or go to the same places.
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It can be a lot more subtle.
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One of the first ways or signs that shows we care too much is that we can be easily swayed.
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So we often take this as a feeling of, oh, I m laid back.
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I m open to anything.
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I ll do whatever you want.
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And really, it s because we re scared of sharing our opinion because we re scared that people may not want to do that.
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Maybe it s deciding what movie to watch.
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or what restaurant to go to.
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You end up at a horror movie, even though you absolutely hate them, and you end up eating a particular cuisine, even though it s your least favorite.
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You re easily swayed, because there s a part of you that doesn t want to be the one to cause conflict.
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There s a part of you that doesn t want to be the one to stand out.
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Now, you may be easygoing, you genuinely may not care, and that s probable too.
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But for those of you that are thinking, you know what, I do get easily swayed.
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I do find it easy to sacrifice and give up on what I really care about and what I want.
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This is an important note.
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Now, I m not saying that the way to do this is to fight for everything you want or to retaliate, because often we ve been giving people the permission.
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Often, we re not easily swayed because someone s persuading us or negotiating with us.
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We re easily swayed because we allow ourselves to be.
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So this is something that we can set better boundaries around.
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Now, the second sign is you struggle to turn things down.
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You struggle to say no.
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Someone says to you, oh, you re coming out tomorrow night, right?
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And even though you had other plans, even though you knew you didn t want to go, you said, yay, I ll be there.
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And then the whole next 24 hours, you re going, why did I say yes?
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I just want to stay indoors.
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I don t want to go anywhere.
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But now you ve said yes.
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You struggle with saying no.
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You struggle with being clear because we care about what people think.
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We re hoping that people don t think we re boring, that people don t think that we re not a good time, that people don t stop inviting us, right?
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We re worried about all of these things.
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Another sign is that we are self-proclaimed people-pleasers.
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We know that we re constantly trying to shape-shift, we re constantly trying to be malleable, because all we want to do is please others.
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Not because we genuinely want to please them by who we are, but by actually disconnecting from who we are.
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Another one is you outsource your choices, right?
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So someone else is making a decision about what you wear.
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Someone else is making a decision about the color of your couch.
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Someone else is making a decision about something else, right?
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You re basically saying, guys, can you make the decision for me?
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Because I don t want to make decisions.
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And in that way, we almost do that because a part of us doesn t want to take responsibility.
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We d rather be able to say, oh yeah, but they told me it was a good idea.
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I thought it was a good idea.
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And again, it comes from a lack of trust in ourselves.
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Now, these are all very normal things.
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This doesn t make you weak, it doesn t make you not strong, it doesn t make you not bold, it doesn t make you not a good person.
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These are things that we all struggle with and I still struggle with too.
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I remember a couple of weeks ago when I d already made plans and I had to say no to someone and it broke my heart.
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I still feel bad when I have to do that.
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But I started looking into it, and a lot of the science and research suggests that we have to care what people think in order to develop closeness, right?
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We have to care what people think in order to feel a sense of belonging.
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That s what belonging is all about, and belonging is a core tenet in life.
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We need it, right?
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If you feel a part of a team, you feel we all support the same team, so I do care about what you think.
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Right?
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If we re going to the same place of worship, or we go to the same community center, we think to ourselves, yeah, I want to feel like I fit in.
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And the list goes on and on and on.
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And the truth is, if we didn t care about what people think, the world would be chaotic.
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Can you imagine if everyone on planet Earth didn t care
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what anyone thought, that would lead to chaos.
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If you ve ever played GTA, that s what it would be like, right?
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Where there s no consequences.
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It doesn t matter.
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You can do whatever you want.
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And I mean, yes, the cops will come after you, but the reality is that you kind of live in a way that it doesn t matter what you do because it s not real.
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So imagine if we lived in a world where everyone did exactly what they wanted,
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Although it s a nice idea in theory, in practice, it could be extremely, extremely worrying.
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And so the part that we have to understand is there are moments in our life where it is healthy to listen to others, where it is healthy to care about what other people think.
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And I want to start with that.
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I want to start with, when should we care about what other people think?
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One of the ways that I found it really useful is if someone has been through an experience previously to you.
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Think about a basic example.
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Someone s been to a country before you.
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Someone has been to a concert before you.
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I m not saying that their experience will be your experience, but their advice, their insight may be useful.
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If you want to start a podcast, speaking to someone who started a podcast and asking them, what are some of the challenges you came up against?
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What are some of the things you were surprised by?
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What are some of the things that were easier than you thought?
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Being able to talk to someone who s one year, three years, five years into an experience allows you to understand something deeply.
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You can care about what they think.
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And notice, there s a difference between caring about what people think and what people think of you.
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I think these two things are often convoluted, right?
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It s like, I can care about your opinion as your opinion.
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and still not make it my noise and my opinion.
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And I think we don t understand how to filter and how to create a distance between these two things, that automatically when someone says something, we subconsciously make it our own.
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And so I really want you to consider in your life, when have you listened to people, and it s been really powerful and useful.
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I can honestly say, I had a conversation with someone the other day, they shared so many great insights with me.
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It was all about Juni, which of course is mine and my wife s sparkling adaptogenic tea.
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It s a real passion project.
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And as we ve been building Drink Juni,
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As a company and as a brand, we ve had to take advice from other beverage entrepreneurs who ve done it before us, because we re complete novices.
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And at that point, it is important that I care about what they think, right?
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It s also important to care about what people think when it s a group of people that you trust.
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A group of people that you recognize have different things to offer you.
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So there are four Cs of connection.
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The first one is care.
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There are some people that care about you.
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So you care about what they think when it comes to caring about you.
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If you want to know who has your best interest at heart, this is the group to go to.
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The second one is consistency.
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There are certain people who are consistently there for you.
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They ve always been around.
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They ll always be around because they are just in your life.
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Again, you care about what they think about you in that specific area.
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I think what I m trying to say is that
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There are people whose opinion matter in specific areas of your life.
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There are very few people whose opinions matter across the entirety of your life.
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And I think that s the challenge.
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We often take people we love and trust, people that have known us for a long time, as their opinion matters across every area of my life.
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And often, sometimes, we trust someone who barely knows us with their opinion of our entire life.
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The third one is competency.
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This is a really, really important point that I want to make.
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Often, we care about what people think about us, even when they re not experts in the field.
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And this is potentially one of the most damaging times we care about what people think, because not only are they not an expert, they may not be that close to us, yet their opinion matters to us so much.
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Right?
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Have you thought about that before?
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Maybe you re working on a project and then someone shares their opinion on it.
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Now, I m not saying there may not be any value in what they re saying, but if they re not an expert in that space, it doesn t make sense.
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I often say that to my friends when my friends are asking me for advice about a particular career path.
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And I ll stop and I ll say to them, I know nothing about that industry.
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I can give you some life principles.
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I can give you some
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thought about how humans interact in that space, and I can share some ancient wisdom and science that I ve read, but I can t really give you an example because that industry is something I don t have experience with.
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And I think that s a really important trait of the people around you as well, who can own up to when they don t know.
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So, and the last one is character.
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There are people in your life who you know, when you want to test whether you re doing something that s aligned and of the right values, then these people carry that character.
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So you ve got care, consistency, competence, and character.
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When you do care about what people think, make sure they fit into one of these four categories and you allow them to have an impact based on that category.
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So that s all about choosing your friends wisely.
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Some people will have an opinion about everything, right?
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They ll have an opinion about what you re wearing, who you re dating, how much money you make, what home you live in.
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And that can be really hard if someone has an opinion about everything you re doing, because if they re close to you, it starts to become relevant.
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So choose your friends wisely and recognize who are your friends that you value because they care for you, who s the list of people that you value because they re competent, who are the consistent people, and who are the people of high character.
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I actually want you to write down those four words and make lists of people in your life so that the next time you re struggling with one of those areas, you have someone you can reach out to.
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And the next time you get some unsolicited insight
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you get some unsolicited answers from one of these people, you can actually think, well, wait a minute, do they fit into this category of the advice they re giving?
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This is a great filtering tool.
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Like if someone s giving me career advice, but that s not their forte and that isn t something they understand, it doesn t mean that I don t think there s value in it.
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It just means that I still have to live my life and I can t be sidetracked because otherwise everyone s opinion is relevant at all times.
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I hope that makes sense.
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It s compassionate and kind, but it has to be clear as well.
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This one s a huge one.
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Don t be someone who gossips about others.
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Because if you talk about others, you ll always assume people are talking about you.
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Let me say that again.
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If you gossip about others, you ll always think others are gossiping about you.
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You ll always feel that other people are talking
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about you because that s what you re doing in your spare time.
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In your spare time, you re looking at someone else going, can t believe they wore that, can t believe they did that, can t believe they re dating so-and-so, can t believe.
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And if you re having that conversation, you re basically creating a projection.
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See, the reason why when someone does something really bad to us, it s really hard for us to understand because we re like, we would never do that to someone.
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Right we think to ourselves well i would never ever do that to you so you don t even you can t even wrap your head around it sometimes and so similarly when you re treating people a certain way like if you re thinking a lot about other people.
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In your head you re thinking well they must be thinking about me we project our own insecurities onto the behaviors of others we project our own challenges onto the behavior of others and so that s really really important that we recognize.
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that we don t want to be someone who s gossiping or talking about others and then struggling because we are lost in that mindset.
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And apart from that, it s just unhealthy.
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If we re constantly speaking about others, we don t have time to speak about really big ideas, dreams, goals, things we re working on, how we re improving ourselves, and it s a slippery slope.
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Slippery, slippery slope.
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And we often justify that we re doing it for the right reason, but we all know that there are better things to focus on for our own growth.
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Number three, really important, be clear about how you feel about yourself.
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What is important to you?
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In Think Like a Monk, chapter one, I give you an auditing exercise.
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The auditing exercise is writing down what you think you currently value.
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And remember, what you value is not what you think you value, it s what you spend your money,
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your time and your energy on.
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I always say to people that your schedule and your expense report shows you more about what you value than what you think in your head.
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So for example, what s your greatest expenditure?
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Is it truly on family because you say you value family?
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Or is it on personal expenses?
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Right, when you say your schedule, if you say you truly value your work, but then your work doesn t make up that much of your day.
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So when we analyze
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our money and our time outgoing.
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That shows us what we value.
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And what I m asking you here is, be clear about what you value and whether it s actually showing up in your life.
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The audit exercise is writing down a list of your current values and then asking yourself where you got it from.
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So write down a list of your values, write down a list of where you got them from, and then ask yourself, do I still want this value?
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I ll give an example.
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there may be someone who has a value that they like to spend a lot.
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And then when they reflect on where they got that value, they realize they got that value from a parent.
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And now when they reflect on that value themselves, they go, actually, this value is not serving me.
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This value is not helping me build a good life.
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I do want to change my value.
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This is how we get clear about our values.
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When we get really clear about our values, we now, even if the result isn t in our favor, we still feel okay.
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I ve had this experience, Ryan, you ve probably had it too, where like, you do something, it makes no sense to anyone, but because it made sense to you, you think to yourself, you know what, that s okay, it s okay, right?
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But oftentimes, we do things without a sense of personal clarity.
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We take steps without being open and honest with ourselves.
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Here, we have the conversations that help black women decipher how their past inform who they are today.
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and use that information to decide who they want to be moving forward.
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We chat about things like how to establish routines that center self-care, what burnout looks and feels like, and defining what aspects of our lives are making us happy and what parts are holding us back.
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I m your host, Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford, a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia.
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And I can t wait for you to join the conversation every Wednesday.
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Listen to the Therapy for Black Girls podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Take good care, and we ll see you there.
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Tune in to the new podcast, Stories from the Village of Nothing Much, like easy listening, but for fiction.
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If you ve overdosed on bad news, we invite you into a world where the glimmers of goodness in everyday life are all around you.
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I m Katherine Nicolai, and you might know me from the Bedtime Story podcast, Nothing Much Happens.
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I m an architect of cozy, and I invite you to come spend some time where everyone is welcome and kindness is the default.
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When you tune in, you ll hear stories about bakeries and walks in the woods, a favorite booth at the diner on a blustery autumn day, cats and dogs, unrescued goats and donkeys, old houses, bookshops, beaches where kites fly, and pretty stones are found.
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I have so many stories to tell you, and they are all designed to help you feel good and feel connected to what is good in the world.
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Listen, relax, enjoy.
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Listen to stories from the Village of Nothing Much on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it s powerful.
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That s where The Bright Side comes in.
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A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that s bringing you a daily dose of joy.
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I m Danielle Robay.
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And I m Simone Boyce.
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Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters.
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We ve covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy, but The Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new and get into some friendly debates.
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That s right.
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Join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side.
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We ll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you.
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Whether it s relationships, friend advice, or figuring out how to navigate life s transitions, we ll talk through it all together.
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Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Number four.
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Opinions don t impact your reality.
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I want this one to sink in.
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Close your eyes and hear me say this.
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Opinions don t become your reality.
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What they do is that they can become your thoughts.
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Often, we think if someone says something, then that s just how it s going to go.
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It s not true.
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If someone thinks your business isn t going to work, that doesn t mean anything.
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If someone thinks your podcast is a bad idea, that doesn t necessarily mean anything.
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If someone doesn t think that what you re doing helps people, it doesn t necessarily mean anything.
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And what I ve realized is that a lot of us get so lost in trying to overvalue what someone feels that we undervalue doing the work.
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So when someone else s opinions become your own thoughts, that s when it really starts to hurt.
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That s when it really starts to dismantle you.
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And so what we have to be careful of is we have to recognize that everyone s entitled to their opinion, but we can t make it a part of our inner dialogue.
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We can t make it a part of our inner thought process.
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Here s an activity I want you to do for step number five.
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I want you to think of your three best decisions you ve made in life.
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the best decisions you ever made, that you could see afterwards that they were the best decisions.
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So if I was to choose mine, one would be choosing to become a monk, one would be leaving to become a monk, and the third one would be starting the podcast.
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For example, I could pick many others, but those would be three that I would consider to be really good decisions in my life, some of my best decisions.
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So I want you to make a list of your three best decisions.
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Now I want you to think about it, because I guarantee that your three best decisions in life weren t based on other people s opinions.
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I m pretty sure that your best three decisions in life maybe even made others feel uncomfortable.
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I remember when I chose to become a monk, people didn t think that was the best idea.
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And when I left being a monk, people didn t think that was the best idea.
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When I wanted to start my podcast, people didn t think it was the best idea, right?
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A lot of people didn t actually, I didn t have a lot of validation for those three decisions, but I was really sure
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that this was going to be good for me, that I was really passionate about the decisions I was making.
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And I truly believe that your best decisions in life were not influenced by someone else.
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Now, that doesn t mean you didn t get inspiration.
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It doesn t mean
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that other people didn t positively impact it, but what I find is that they weren t based on the opinion of others.
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And I want you to take confidence in that.
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I want you to take confidence in the fact that you have made brilliant decisions in the past, and they were brilliant because you weren t being impacted by other people s opinions.
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Right, if other people s opinions align with you, that s great.
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But you have to ask yourself, is it actually making you feel uncomfortable to pursuing the path that someone else thinks is good for you?
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Number six.
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People are not thinking about you as much, as often, or as deeply as you think they are.
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Let me say that again.
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Take this one in, let it sink in.
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People are never thinking about you as much, as often, or as deeply as you think they are.
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We think that people are sitting there just thinking about us, that they re talking about us.
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And I wish I could find the studies on how much time people actually spend thinking about you, and I promise you, it is less than 1% of their day.
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I think we have something like 45 thoughts per minute or something like that.
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I promise you there aren t that many thoughts that are about you.
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Most of our challenge with that is we re thinking it.
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We re thinking that people are thinking it about us.
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Going back to my favorite Charles Horton Cooley quote, which you ve heard me say a million times, but I m going to say it again because it s my favorite.
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Charles Horton Cooley said, I m not what I think I am.
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I m not what you think I am.
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I am what I think you think I am.
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Right?
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Let that blow your mind for a moment.
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He said, I am what I think you think I am.
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So we think, we think we know what other people are thinking about us, and we base our perception of ourself on that.
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So if I think you think I m weak, then I feel weak.
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If I think you think I m strong, then I feel strong.
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We want to get out of that inception, right?
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And the last point I wanted to make, seventh point, place value on the source based on their qualities and attributes.
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Don t misplace.
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Don t overvalue someone s opinion without really understanding where they re coming from and the place with which it s coming from.
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Is it coming from the place of wanting to invest in your growth?
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Is it coming from being a well-wisher?
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Where is it coming from?
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Recognizing that intention can make a huge difference.
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I want to thank you for tuning in today.
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I hope this episode helps you.
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I hope it sparks a conversation.
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I hope you share it with a friend.
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Remember, I am always rooting for you.
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I want you to win and I m in your corner forever.
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Thank you so much for listening.
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I appreciate you.
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Get excited for Monday and come back and go back through all the episodes and catch up on some of those too.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much for listening to this conversation.
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If you enjoyed it, you ll love my chat with Adam Grant on why discomfort is the key to growth and the strategies for unlocking your hidden potential.
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If you know you want to be more and achieve more this year, go check it out right now.
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You set a goal today, you achieve it in six months, and then by the time it happens, it s almost a relief.
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There s no sense of meaning and purpose.
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You sort of expected it and you would have been disappointed if it didn t happen.
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The Black Effect presents Family Therapy, and I m your host, Ellia Connick.
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Jay is the woman in this dynamic who is currently co-parenting two young boys with her former partner, David.
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David, he is a leader.
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He just don t want to leave me.
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But how do you lead a woman?
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How do you lead in a relationship?
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Like, what s the blue part?
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David, you just asked the most important question.
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Listen to Family Therapy on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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You don t put those inside of you, do you?
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This is a show about women.
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I mean, you do?
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Finally, a show about women that isn t just a thinly veiled aspirational nightmare.
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It s not hosted, not narrated.
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We re just dropping into a woman s world.
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I found out when my dad was gay when I was 10.
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We were in a convertible on the 405 freeway, listening to the B-52s.
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Looking back, I should have said, this is gay.
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This is already all gay.
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Listen to finally a show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Imagine you asked two people the same seven questions.
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I m Minnie Driver, and this was the idea I set out to explore in my podcast, Minnie Questions.
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This year, we bring a whole new group of guests to answer the same seven questions, including Courtney Cox, Rob Delaney, Liz Phair, and many, many more.
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Join me on season three of Minnie Questions on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite podcasts.
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Seven questions, limitless answers.