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But a lot of mine are, because I've had time to sort of work on my career and put me first and blah, blah, blah.
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But yeah, it's very interesting, this idea of balance, because I just don't think it exists.
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I think it's constantly pivoting.
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And it's pivot fatigue for the rest of your life.
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Accept it.
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Get over it.
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It's here to stay.
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Welcome back to On Purpose.
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Right back at you.
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I am so excited that we're finally doing it.
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And yeah, I almost want to hear you talk more
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 to me than I want to talk to you, but I'll try to add some things here and there.
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It's definitely the other way around for me.
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From the little time that we've already spent together, I'm already excited for everyone to hear this conversation.
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I've followed you for a very, very long time.
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Let's get right into it.
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I want to ask you the question, first of all, what's one of your favorite memories of growing up in Michigan?
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Fireflies.
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 Michigan has, well, Michigan has a lot of, Michigan is this underestimated state, right?
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I think I'm 99% sure we invented unions.
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It's like a ton of really classy, hardworking, salt of the earth people in the best, most complimentary way possible, like grounded.
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 people that I grew up with, and it's, the area I grew up in was incredibly diverse, incredibly accepting, and we have a couple special things about Michigan.
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Number one, we have a hot fudge company called Saunders Hot Fudge, which is plain and simple the best hot fudge you'll ever get.
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Fireflies are everywhere in the summer.
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The mosquitoes, not so great, but they are, you know, uniquely Michigan, because they are like, they will leave a boulder where they bite.
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 And then lightning storms.
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Lightning storms, they happen every summer, and it's when it's a little bit too hot out, and it's not yet raining, but it's really moist in the air, and you just see the lightning crackling in the sky.
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And, yeah, I have such a nostalgia.
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In fact, two years ago, maybe three years ago, my husband and I brought our kids back to Michigan, because we both grew up there, because we were like, they have to witness
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 lightning storms, and fireflies, and the mosquitoes, to be honest.
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And this was before the mosquitoes had hit Los Angeles.
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But now they're here, so we don't have to travel to see them.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that The Little Mermaid is your favorite Disney film.
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It also happens to be my wife's favorite Disney film, so that's why it resonated even more.
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I was wondering, why is it your favorite Disney film?
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 Well, I think when I, it depends, looking back on it with revisionist history, I think because it was the first one, my age group was when I really gravitated towards them.
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Like I was a little bit younger in the Snow White Sleeping Beauty stage, but Little Mermaid, I was like prime for Disney animation.
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And Aladdin came out shortly thereafter, so it is a very close tie.
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You know, in retrospect, I look at it and, you know, people,
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 uh say like well why would she just want to do get legs for a man and i'm sort of like it's not that deep it's just that she was in love i also think the music is so stunning and i do think scuttle will go down in history as maybe the best animated character ever you just don't get cuter than him that that talking seagull with that scratchy voice i wish i knew the name of that character actor
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 Yeah, I don't know either.
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We'll have to look that up.
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Yeah, I've got no idea.
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But that's a really good analysis of the Little Mermaid.
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I'm really impressed.
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I was wondering where it was going to go, but that went really deep.
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But as we go deeper into the questions, you've been very vocal during quarantine and lockdown about the natural challenges that everyone's had and
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 the immense change that everyone's gone through.
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And I think it's important because one of the things you talked about is you had to become a home teacher, you know, during the beginning of quarantine and lockdown, like, tell us about that process.
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And what was the hardest and what was your most favorite aspect of it?
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Because I think so many parents have had to do that.
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And so many individuals have had to do that.
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Yeah, it's been a gigantic learning curve for me.
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So initially, I was just like, what?
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 I am grateful that I have young kids and I can do the math that they're that's required within their class because i'm telling you, if we were in the like fractions i'd be like i'm so sorry this year you're going to skip math like that's just what's going to happen.
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 Initially, I set it up like I had the color-coded schedule, welcome to camp, quarantine.
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I get ahead of myself a lot.
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I like the cart way, way, way, way, way, way, way ahead and the horses way in the distance usually.
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So I, you know, had this colorful map of what we do and here are our times and here's our brain times and here's our body times and literally everyone was miserable.
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 Everyone was miserable and I went, okay, we're going to have to pivot.
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 So just to prove the point, because I really like to stay open and honest with my kids about mistakes.
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I think that's my primary goal as a parent, to show them that everyone makes mistakes.
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You can always rectify things.
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So I woke them up one morning, and I asked them to come into the kitchen.
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And I said, I have something really important for you to do.
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I want you to take that schedule off the wall, and I want you to shred it.
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And they were like, what?
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We can do that?
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And we did.
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And I said, from now on, we're going to give each other a little bit more grace.
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 And that was at the end of last year.
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Going into this year, I think I had read enough
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 online of bloggers articles about homeschooling that I said to myself, okay, I actually understand that parents teaching kids isn't actually a great mixture.
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You're supposed to be something different.
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You know, like if there's all these different analogies, like they say, you can have a million friends in your life, but you have one mom or one dad or one parent.
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So you're supposed to be a little stricter.
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 You know, um, and kids don't learn best from their parents.
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I mean, the odd kid might, but mine certainly don't.
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So I realized I had to pull my sister-in-law into the fold.
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I realized I had to give everyone a little bit of space.
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And when they came to me to work on something now, granted, the only thing I was thinking during this whole time was I'm going to be the one parent that can do it.
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 I can do it.
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I'm cool.
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I can do it.
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And I'm just not.
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And I've had to wrestle with that.
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My favorite thing is actually being able to monitor them from a distance.
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Like I'll hide in the bathroom a lot and just sit there and work on my computer just so I can hear.
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I want to know what they're engaging with because I very much believe in a
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 a sort of free-range style of parenting, but also follow the kid.
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So my daughter, like one of them is a reader, the other one is just not a reader.
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The older one has trouble, but STEM stuff, building engineering, she's better than I am.
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So by me being able to monitor that, I'm just following her cues and I'm going, oh, okay,
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 Get a stem book a creativity book find a YouTube video we could watch together like follow where her interests lie, so I appreciate the.
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thoughtful parenting i've been able to do from a distance and it's been hard for me to keep my distance because I really wanted to be the one parent that could teach my kids.
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 We always wanna be that one.
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You always wanna be the exception, but all of us are more often the rule than the exception.
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How did you get so, like hearing you share it today, obviously, you know, the way you're sharing it feels so real to you now, and you're so accepting of it.
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I feel like what I hear, and we have a big parent audience too, like what I hear a lot is that people really struggle with actually accepting that they can't be that.
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And I think there's a real pressure
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 obviously in the last few months, but there's generally a pressure to be the perfect parent, the perfect partner, the perfect person.
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From a parent point of view, and then we'll go into the partner aspect, from the parent point of view, when did you allow yourself to start getting comfortable with saying, I'm getting it wrong, this isn't working?
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Because I love your idea of bringing other people in to teach the kids.
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I think it's genius because often
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 I find like the people closest to us are the people we can't teach, that we can't share, whoever it is in our lives.
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And I noticed that in my own life.
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When was it when you were able to accept that that wasn't a weakness in you or that wasn't a failure or shortcoming on your part, but actually it was just the way things psychologically set up?
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 Well, two things, a personal drive to be successful.
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And well, a couple things, three things, a personal drive to be successful.
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I want to nail it.
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And if I try to do it and I'm not nailing it, then I need to take a different role in that situation.
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So me nailing it means something different.
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And I'm
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 thankfully adept enough to navigate that.
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But sometimes, yeah, stepping back when I tried 40 times to do this lesson with the kids and they just do not want to sit down and do it with me and I'm frustrating them, I have to go, what's the common denominator here?
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My kids are sponges that want to learn.
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I'm supposed to be representing something different right now.
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My sister said something once to me that was awesome where she has four kids and she said,
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 My husband and I really believe that everyone should take on a different role.
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We have to be the rule givers, whatever word is sweeter than rule givers.
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Value givers maybe, value providers?
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No, something stricter than that.
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We have to be the parents.
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We have to set the boundaries and the rules.
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The grandparents are to be the wisdom.
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 and the aunts and uncle are to be the chaos sneak attack people, the wild ones.
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So my sister said to me, we want you and Dax to take Ben, who's 12, on a motorcycle ride.
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We want you to say,
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 I have cookies in my bag, don't tell your parents.
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We want you to do that because we believe that different adults have different contributions to the child's development and that they should learn to trust people in different ways and not everyone should just be doing this at them all the time.
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So the aunt and uncle, that's kind of a cool job.
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 um that's genius i love this by the way it's brilliant isn't it it's kind of sweet and then it's like you know you're everybody serves a purpose in the kid's life um and since she i also thought it was really sweet that she asked us to do that you know the other thing is i have a relationship with my husband that requires brutal honesty um
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 This may shock you, but he's easier with brutal honesty than I am.
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He's easier at letting it go.
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And early on when the kids were young, he would say things to me like, I'm sorry, what do you want me to do?
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You can't do that.
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You're not good at that.
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She doesn't want that from you.
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And then he would just sit there stone-faced and look at me and I'd be like.
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 Dear, okay.
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So, okay.
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And he's like, pivot.
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You know what it means to emotionally pivot.
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You're empathetic.
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You can feel what she's feeling.
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I am an empath and I have trouble sometimes navigating or negotiating what another person's feeling versus what I'm feeling.
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 But that's also a superpower, in that I can put myself in her shoes.
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So my husband didn't actually have to say it to me this go-round.
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I got there by ripping up the schedule early on.
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But we live in a household of ultimate honesty, and we will tell the other person with grace and trust and candor when they are doing something, not incorrectly, but when they could be succeeding elsewhere, I suppose.
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 That's so refreshing and I love that approach.
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I think it's so genius to surround young people with people with different skills and abilities and roles and ideas because I think one of the biggest mistakes or two of the biggest mistakes that we often make in life and I think this comes from our childhood is we either end up going to one person for everything we need and then that person gets too drained and overwhelmed or we go to everyone with all of our problems.
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And that doesn't work either because.
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And neither is a great road to emotionally navigating a human life.
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Right.
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Like you have to go to I go to different people to vent.
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I go to different people for advice.
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And that's another thing my husband just pains me to give him so much credit all the time, but I got to do it because he's so the reason he's most annoying is because he's almost always right.
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But, you know, there was I remember one specific
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 person in our lives when I said, I don't know if I want our girls to be around that person a lot because I think that person does X, Y, and Z, right?
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And nothing bad or terrible, but I was like, I don't want them taking on those habits.
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And it wasn't a habit that was detrimental like smoking or anything.
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It was just an emotional habit, whatever, being impulsive, whatever.
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 And he said, I'm going to give our girls credit, like, you know, he gives an AA where you need to look at someone and you ask yourself, does this person have what I want?
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If they do, you follow their lead.
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If this person doesn't have what I want,
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 then I'll know that's not a skill set I need.
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So the individual where I was actually saying, let's hold the girls back, not have them hang out with that person, he was saying the opposite.
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He was like, I want them to witness all of that person's ups and downs and ins and outs and falters, because they will see, oh, maybe doing it that way isn't the right way, which was ultimately my end game anyway.
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It's really interesting how so much of this is counterintuitive.
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 Yeah, I mean, that's super counterintuitive.
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And I guess the interesting thing is that people react so differently to the same experience.
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So you can often have two children that have that experience, and one of them goes out going, well, that's not how to do it.
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And the other person mirrors that exact behavior.
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It's really hard to tell.
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I've seen that in so many, when you look at siblings, and you look at siblings who had a similar upbringing, but one of them mirrors
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 what their parents did and the other person avoids what their parents did because they saw it as a different habit.
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Some people take it on as well.
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Yeah.
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And I think ultimately where I land on it is that I want to trust that my kids will use good judgment.
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Yes.
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And that they will be deciding with their own agency what works for them.
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And I think that's such, it's such an interesting, this is an interesting
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 bigger topic, but like the idea of like the group rights or the individual rights, like we as a country are so sort of like beating our chest for individual rights, which I fully believe in.
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But at the same time, sometimes we're the antithesis of that where we're like, everyone should be doing it like this.
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You should only be exposed to this because this is what the group's doing.
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This is what I want you to do.
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And I'm like, well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Didn't we just talk?
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 Was I just seeing the narrative the social narrative be about individual stuff like I think we're, we're sort of balancing on the opposite side all the time you know and like in in parenting I find that we have a lot of rules in the family about being a good family citizen.
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 you know, which we got from a Dr. Wendy Mogul, who I love as a child psychologist, who I think is genius, but like we make them contribute.
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They're certainly not, I mean, they're bratty all the time, but we make them take their plate in whether they're going or not, you know, what have you done to contribute to the family?
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Things are important, not just for your needs, but for everyone's.
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But at the same time, we give them a lot of slack.
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Like one thing that I know I got,
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 Some people saw it as a controversy.
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I just don't see it as a controversy, but I was asked by my three-year-old whether or not Santa Claus was real.
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And I remember a woman, another mother who I really respect telling me, don't ever let, especially a daughter, look at you when she's older and say, what else have you lied about?
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 That really hit home for me.
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And I thought, can I do this?
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Can I navigate little topics like this?
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And it ultimately came down to, if my daughter has the wherewithal to sense in here that something stinks, he can make it to all those houses.
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It's not possible, right?
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Something's fishy.
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I'm going to ask about it.
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I want to reward that.
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 Yeah, I don't ever want her to.
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Oh, well, just because it's real.
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Don't worry about it.
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I don't want her to get into that pattern.
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I want her to ask questions.
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I want her to be a critical thinker.
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And I sat her down and I said, do you want me to tell you the truth?
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And she said yes.
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Now, I also had this.
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I was able to compare it to Dax because when he was three, he did the same thing.
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They're just like, I don't know.
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The two of them are very similar and they both smell funny business from real far away.
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 And I said, Santa Claus is not a real person.
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You're right to sniff that out.
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We don't let a man break in here once a year just because he leaves us cookies and presents.
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We don't let that happen, right?
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Santa Claus is a game that we play as a culture, and it's really fun.
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And a lot of kids have a belief in him like you could have a belief in
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 Anything you want to believe in, unicorn, something that's special to you.
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So we always want to protect other kids.
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And we never want to say that Santa Claus isn't real.
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But if you want an honest, if you want an honest answer from me, I will tell you you're right.
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I'm the one that buys you the presents.
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No one breaks in here because she was worried about somebody breaking in once a year.
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Wow.
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And I was like, this bitch is practical.
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I got to give her the answer.
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 This is all at age three.
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Yes.
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And I also found this wonderful book called the wonderful truth about Santa Claus.
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And it was like randomly buried in Amazon.
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I don't even know the name of the author, but I keep trying to remember to give it to all my my parent friends who are having this conversation with their kids.
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Now it talks about
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 It's a little bit fictional, but it talks about St.
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Nicholas lived in a town long, long time ago.
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He saw a family that didn't have anything.
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He put some coins in their stockings and he left them presents.
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And that family was so inspired, they did it to someone else.
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And what it does is it reframes Santa Claus
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 as anyone can be a Santa Claus if you give a gift without a name tag, without putting your personal name.
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So that what that did for my three-year-old, who I still kind of vaguely didn't trust not to tell other kids, it reframed it.
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So all of a sudden, if she gave my sister-in-law a gift and didn't put a name tag on it, she'd say it's from Santa.
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 So we accused them to still play the game.
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Anyways, that was very long winded, but you know, I love it.
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That's a great answer.
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This is this is very useful.
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I think a lot of parents are going to find this very, very useful.
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It's coming up.
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Christmas is not that far away.
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And yeah, and but I love the idea of how early on so many of us form
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 the lack of curiosity because we're told to believe without asking questions how we lose the ability I love what you said about rewarding her critical thinking at that age because she came to it that conclusion not by herself and she was worried about her home being broken I mean as a three-year-old I am blown away that's yeah it's great
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 I don't ever want her to be in a situation as an adult where she has a fishy feeling and some neuron that I connected way, way, way long ago in her history tells her, you know what?
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It's fine.
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Don't even ask.
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I'll tell you it's okay.
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I was like, no, speak up.
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You've got a question.
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If something's not making sense to you, say, I'm so sorry.
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I need more information here.
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 Yeah.
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I love that.
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I love that.
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You've moving away from parenting and talking about your relationship and you've been speaking about Dax a lot already, but you've, you've described yourself as like a codependent person before, and I wanted to help.
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And, and, you know, you're not shy about that and you share it.
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And, and I think that that's so useful for a lot of people to understand when was it first that you started to identify as that and that became real and, and how is that affected your relationship or how have you navigated it differently since having that awareness?
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 I think I only realized it when I was in my mid-30s, when I first started having babies because, you know, as a codependent I am
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 very aware of what other people are feeling around me and I just want to make it better at the expense of myself.
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And when you have kids and you are not only emotionally and mentally giving to them, but like physically, I was a food truck for three years, I felt so drained.
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And also, like I said before, my husband does point it out a lot.
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Like he's like, you have an inability to say no.
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And I'm like,
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 But that was a charity gala.
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I had to go.
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And he's like, but you didn't want to.
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You were overworked.
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You don't prioritize yourself.
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And that's not a compliment.
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And I was like, ouch.
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And I think what I've done is I haven't tried to completely squash out any codependency.
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I like
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 if I were to answer a question with, oh, but that's because of this.
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If she still senses some curiosity and knows I won't go there with her, she feels shut down, you know?
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And even for adults, you have that reaction as an adult too.
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And I will tell you, it's not a mistake that we wrote this as a children's book.
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If we wrote an adult novel on this topic, with all the points that we had talked about that went into this book, only adults would read it.
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 But if we wrote it for kids, then both kids and adults would read it.
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That's beautiful.
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I love that.
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I love that.
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And I really, really hope that everyone in our community goes and grabs a copy because it's brilliant.
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I think it's brilliant.
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And you're so spot on that all of that rewiring that even we as adults needs to do comes back from our childhood anyway.
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So we need to unlearn so many of the things that we were told, mistold, or not told in our childhood.
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 Absolutely, absolutely.
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And it's like, yeah, people don't, you don't realize why you have certain triggers until you kind of do the work and the work is hard, whether it's you at home journaling, you venting to your friends, you reading a self-help book, you talking to a therapist, whatever, you listening to a podcast, like whatever that looks like for you, the work is hard, but when you start to realize, my God, I know why I have that trigger now, it's because of,
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 There's like an instantaneous weight off your shoulders.
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So recognizing your triggers is like the best possible thing because they were all installed when we were kids.
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And then you can sort of shed them and live the freer emotional life that you know you deserve for yourself.
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 Yeah, absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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I did want to talk about and touch on also, I know that you have a new CBD skincare line out, which is fascinating, because I know this audience absolutely loves a lot of good product recommendations and insights.
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Tell us about when you got exposed to CBD and what benefits you saw of it.
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Well, I
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 was given a Lord Jones CBD product, which is sort of like a high-end CBD cream for sore muscles.
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And my hairstylist, who's a good friend of mine, Jenny, put it on my shoulders one day, and I was like, oh, I feel so much nicer.
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And I was skeptical at first, as I am with everything, but I also know you can't just eat one piece of spinach and expect a six-pack.
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 right?
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Like you have to give things a try.
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You can't be fatalist, like that doesn't work.
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So I tried a CBD tincture for about two weeks.
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And this was, I remember clearly the third season of The Good Place, I was driving home and my drive home was always this.
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I was trying to leave behind my work stress and going, you have a monologue tomorrow, you have 11 pages to memorize tonight and you got to put those girls down.
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 And I would drive home and I would go, also, you have to replace her lunchbox, because one of the lunchboxes stinks.
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So identify which one it is.
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Either clean it out with bleach or order one immediately, because she can't do a paper bag.
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It's going to fall.
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All these things, right?
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And after two weeks of taking a CBD tincture, I realized I was just driving home listening to the radio.
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 And when I got home, I wasn't any less efficient.
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I wasn't slower.
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I didn't forget to replace the lunchbox.
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And I realized, even though I was skeptical, I was blown away in the quality and the sort of integrity that the company had, because I sat down with them and I said, this has felt like I've turned the volume of life down just a little bit.
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 Like I feel manageable.
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And I also started a company with my husband called Hello Bello and our main initiative there, like our main directive was, we met our partners, we were like, we don't need another paycheck.
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I'm gonna be very clear about that.
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This is not going to be a, let's look at the bottom line all the time company.
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I wanna do good and the kind of good I wanna do is, I don't feel it's fair that we can go to every single boutique and get premium baby care products and my friends in Michigan can't.
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 You shouldn't have to choose between your baby or your budget.
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So I said, how do we leverage our careers as celebrities and get an economy of scale?
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I mean, this is getting into, like, business talk, but that's the reality.
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I wanted to get an economy of scale to bring really good things to people who didn't have to worry about the price point.
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So I approached Lord Jones, who was making really great products, and I said, I want to use all of your R&D and all of your company, and I want to create something that's as good, that's a lower price point.
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 And I want to call it happy dance because I feel like that's what it makes me feel like.
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It makes me feel lighter and calmer and subtler in a time where I can be really impulsive when I'm stressed.
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So we worked really hard on it for two years.
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I'm really proud of it.
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And we're, yeah, it launches in October and we shot some really cute material for it that I think is really funny.
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And I hope people will give it a chance and see what it can do for them.
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 Yeah, well, I can't wait to test it out.
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It's always, I agree with you.
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I think it's, for so many things, it's about what you said, testing, experimenting, trying, and seeing if we feel a benefit.
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And I think about that all the time, whether it's with meditation, or whether it's with waking up earlier, or whether it's getting more sleep.
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It's like, you know, you can philosophize about the benefits as much as you like, but until you actually practically do it, you're not gonna have any clue.
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 And I feel like in the CBD world, there's so many, it's so crowded and no one really understands it.
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And I didn't before I really researched it.
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And the companies that were out there weren't speaking to me because they were either like using a marijuana trope where I was like, I'm not gonna use a cream that's gonna get me high.
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Like, don't make me feel like that.
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But then once I understood what CBD does and that it doesn't get you high at all, the other ones I saw were very like clinical.
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 And such beautiful packaging.
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And let me tell you something, not only do I not have beautiful packaging in my medicine cabinet, most of them are tipped over, right?
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They're all leaking.
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I needed something that was like fun and the bottle felt colorful.
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And so I spent a lot of time trying to infuse me into this so that it could speak to people like I would be if I was in their medicine cabinet.
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Like, I'm just here if you need me.
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 And I say, like, if CBD doesn't work for you and you try it like amazing, then it doesn't work for you.
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Like, not every person is the same, but it's helped me a ton.
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And so I my main goal was to say, I want to get this out there because I think that it really could help people.
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I think it's what a lot of people need right now and just don't know it.
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And we also
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 When I met with Lord Jones and we developed this, I said, but again, I don't need a paycheck.
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I don't really even have time to be working on this, but I believe in it.
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What portion of our company are we giving to the community?
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And they were like, okay, let's look at that.
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So we decided 1% of our profits is going to be going in perpetuity, going to be going to this incredible organization called a new way of life.
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 It's a reentry project started by a woman in downtown Los Angeles who had been in and out of jail, finally went to rehab in like a fancy Santa Monica place.
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And she was just like, why doesn't this exist on my streets?
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Why doesn't this type of care exist?
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Why is everyone that works here white?
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 You know, so she started, she's incredible.
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There's also another great book recommendation I'll throw out there.
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That's her story.
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It's called Becoming Miss Burton.
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And I'm at the tail end of it right now.
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And it's astounding.
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She would go and meet women who were getting off the bus out of prison.
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And she would say, I have an extra room in my house.
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Do you want to get your life back on track?
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I'll help you.
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And I was like, talk about using your own two hands.
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And by the way, this woman's life story is whatever you think your life story is,
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 Take a break.
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It's nothing compared to the things she's experienced and overcome, I've felt.
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And so I was like, I love what this woman is doing.
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She's opened up nine or 10 housing facilities for women who are getting back on their feet, pro bono legal stuff, getting their children back.
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And I was like, this is the woman.
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And so I'm really proud that everything Happy Dance does
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 will be supporting her as well.
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So I want people to use CBD if they like it.
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If they don't, that's okay.
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But I secretly want this company to blow up and be in everyone's household so that she can do all of her great work and have funding for it.
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 I love that.
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That's so beautiful.
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I absolutely love the name Happy Dance too.
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It's awesome.
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I'm hoping that people put it on and feel that.
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I love that and it's so awesome to see your passion and your purpose come out.
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What I love about you, Christian, what you do so wonderfully and gracefully is you're doing purposeful things through media and purposeful things through products and then purposeful things through a book.
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I love how
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 you're infusing everything in your life with purpose in different ways and almost hidden ways sometimes, subtle ways that people may not even be sure of and I think that that's extremely masterful, you're a magician.
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I'm very calculated.
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Okay.
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 I do feel like, look, having a purpose gives me self-esteem, and I really like the way self-esteem feels.
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I also, as a businesswoman, like putting my business hat on, I think the future of the world has to be for-profit, for-good companies.
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I work with a ton of different charities.
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 global, local, national, all of them.
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And I give my time and my money because I believe in them.
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And these people are working hard every day for causes that I think are wonderful.
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But there does come a fatigue, especially in an economic recession, which we're experiencing now when you're asking people for money.
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So like last year, it just occurred to me, I was like, no, it's gotta be for profit, for good.
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Big companies have got to step up and be doing the right things.
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Every single company should have a pledge to a nonprofit.
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 Every single one.
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We shouldn't be asking someone who only makes minimum wage to donate money to that.
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The big companies should be doing it.
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So I don't do any endeavor without using my leverage and saying, what's your charity component?
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What's your give back right here?
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Because I want to know how I'm helping the community.
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 Because I have it a lot.
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There are a lot of people worse off than me.
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And my goal in life is to promote happiness and reduce suffering.
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So how are we going to do that together?
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And if the answer is we don't have one, then the answer is no.
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 I love that.
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I'm so glad that you're forcing everyone to level up and increase their standards.
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It's so needed.
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Today, Kristen, you've been so generous with your time.
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We end every On Purpose interview with these final five questions.
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They are meant to be fast five in the sense that they're meant to be one word to one sentence answers, but I think we're going to go off and that's fine.
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 Yeah, good luck.
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I don't do one sentence very well.
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No, it's fine.
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I will allow both of us to break the rules.
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So the first question of your final five is, what do you know to be absolutely true about human nature that many would disagree with?
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So what do you know to be true about humans and people that you think people may disagree with you on?
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That acceptance is as important as oxygen.
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 Wow.
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I love that.
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That's really powerful.
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Never had that answer before.
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One, that was one sentence.
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That was pretty good.
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That was amazing.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Question number two, uh, the hardest recent change you've had to make in your life.
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I've had to buy some new jeans, some bigger jeans during quarantine.
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That was rough.
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Thank you for sharing.
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Thank you.
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Question number three.
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Uh, what, what are you currently using your voice for?
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 What am I currently using my voice for as an amplifier, as a megaphone to the work that others are doing?
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I love that.
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Beautiful.
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Question number four, what's the biggest lesson you've learned in the last 12 months?
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That I was not cut out to be a teacher.
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 Or a really good one who knows how to facilitate teaching and growth.
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Maybe you'd be a dean instead.
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I wasn't cut out to be a teacher, but I was cut out to be a school administrator.
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There we go.
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There we go.
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Okay.
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And question number five, if you could create a law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be?
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Don't be a jerk.
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 Oh, a hundred percent.
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Don't be a jerk.
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That's the only rule we need.
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You know what I mean?
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Because everybody, you can say like, be kind.
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That sort of means different things to different people.
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Yeah.
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Jerk means something the same to everybody.
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We all know a jerk.
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Don't be a jerk.
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 Great advice.
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Kristen Bell, thank you so much.
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I love it.
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That was your final five.
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Everyone who's been listening or watching today, I hope you enjoyed that conversation as much as I did.
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Learning so much from Kristen's wisdom at this phase in her life as she was sharing so many amazing ways in which she's helping us learn, listen, and grow.
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 And whatever you liked, make sure you tag both me and Kristen on Instagram so that we can see what resonated with you.
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I love noticing what connects with you and what means a lot to you.
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And Kristen, I just want to thank you again from the bottom of my heart for doing this.
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It was so much fun.
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I thought you were going to say the one law we need is that the world needs more purple people.
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 That would have been so much better, right?
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That's what I thought you were going to say, but I'll say it now.
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The world needs more purple people.
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The link is in the captions.
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Go and grab a copy.
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And thank you so much, Kristen.
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I look forward to meeting you.
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I hope I actually get to be in the same space as you soon.
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I love that.
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When this is all over, would you have me on again and we can meet in person?
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I would love that.
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I would absolutely love that.
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And then we can try to put on some of the CBD skincare at the same time.
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Yes.
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That would be fun.
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I love that.
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 This is the story of how a group of people brought music back to Afghanistan by creating their own version of American Idol.
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The joy they brought to the nation.
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You're free completely.
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No one is there to destroy you.
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The danger they endured.
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They said my head should be cut off.
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I'm John Legend.
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Listen to Afghan Star on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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 Guess what, Will?
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What's that, Mango?
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I've been trying to write a promo for our podcast, Part-Time Genius, but even though we've done over 250 episodes, we don't really talk about murders or cults.
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I mean, we did just cover the Illuminati of cheese, so I feel like that makes us pretty edgy.
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We also solve mysteries like how Chinese is your Chinese food and how do dollar stores make money?
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And then, of course, can you game a dog show?
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So what you're saying is everyone should be listening.
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Listen to Part-Time Genius on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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 A new season of Bridgerton is here.
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And with it, a new season of Bridgerton, the official podcast.
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I'm your host, Gabby Collins.
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And this season, we are bringing fans even deeper into the ton.
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Watch season three of the Shondaland series on Netflix.
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Then fall in love all over again by listening to Bridgerton, the official podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Subscribe to catch a new episode every Thursday.