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 This is episode number 1201 with multi-time Olympic gold medalist, Sean White.
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Welcome to the School of Greatness.
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My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
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And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
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Thanks for spending some time with me today.
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Now let the class begin.
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 Welcome back, my friend.
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Today's guest is the incredible Sean White.
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He is a dual sports professional athlete who maintains some of the highest accolades within snowboarding and skateboarding, despite being born with a heart defect.
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 Sean has earned numerous titles and victories such as three Winter Olympic gold medals and is the only athlete to receive two perfect 100 scores during competition.
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He holds the X Games record for the most gold medals with 15 and the highest overall medal count to date with 23.
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 In this episode, we discuss how to stay energized when you're pursuing things at the highest level, how to think about having a champion's mindset and dealing with self-doubt, Sean's approach to his self-development journey, the biggest mistakes people make when setting big, massive goals, and so much more.
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Okay.
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In just a moment, the one and only Shaun White.
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 Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness.
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We've got the legendary Shawn White in the house.
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My man, so good to see you.
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Thanks for having me.
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Been following your career for a long time.
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We've got a lot of mutual friends.
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And it's inspiring to see what you're able to do at 35 years of age.
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Three Olympic golds, is that right now?
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Yeah.
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Three Olympic golds.
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Four Olympics, three golds.
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Three golds.
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You're going back for another one.
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 And I'm curious, how do you continue to stay so disciplined at this age with your body, your mindset, your training, to continue preparing at this level after so many years competing?
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 You know, it's tough.
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Honestly, you know, as you get older, there's just more things that interest you.
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You're enticed by this, you know, starting a company, you know, you know, just even just normal life things.
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Relationships.
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Moving home, you know, like just anything like that.
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 And I found that oddly enough for me, taking the time to do those things actually makes me better at snowboarding.
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Because I have the muscle memory and I've done it my whole life.
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So it's like riding a bike, you know it.
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It's just like how enthused are you once you get there?
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So if I'm really motivated when I get to the mountain,
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 Then I'm dangerous because I'm pumped, I want to learn the new tricks and I have the ability to do that.
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It's just when I get there and I maybe don't want to be there and that's when it's really hard.
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So I think after the, not the last Olympics, but the one before that after I lost in Sochi in Russia, I missed the podium.
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 I remember standing there.
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I had the winning run.
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I mean, I had all the tricks to do it.
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I just couldn't.
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In my head, I just knew I wasn't going to do well.
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Really?
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Which is really a horrible feeling.
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You're watching a movie.
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You can't really... Why don't you think you can do it?
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You're like, here we go.
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Why did you not think you could do it well?
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 You know, I don't know, it's just something was just off.
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And I just, all I can chalk it up to is that my heart just wasn't fully into it.
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And I didn't think that that fully mattered at the time.
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I was like, I can just kind of.
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Wing it.
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I can phone it in, I got the tricks, you know what I mean?
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And just something in me didn't want it.
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I couldn't get to that place.
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And I was in that pressure cooker situation where I was like the last guy to go.
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 It's one run, that's it.
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I'm closing it out and I was like, okay, this isn't going to go well.
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So you said to yourself beforehand, this may not go well.
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Yeah.
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So, oh, for sure.
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I just kind of had a feeling, which is awful.
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And it's hard to just snap out of that last second.
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And so after that Olympics, everything I did after that was like, okay, well, it wasn't a physical thing that kept me from winning.
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It was a mental thing.
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 And so I'm like, what do I do now?
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Because it's easy to go, I wish it was physical.
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I'd go do some sit-ups.
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I'd go learn the new hard trick.
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I could do whatever.
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It was mental.
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It was like, okay, how do I make myself like or fall in love with this thing again?
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Like, how do you make yourself, you know, love somebody else even?
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You know what I'm saying?
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In that same wheelhouse, it's like, it's not an easy thing to do.
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And so I, or, you know, reignite that excitement.
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And so,
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 I literally did everything that had nothing to do with snowboarding.
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I was like, okay.
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 I gotta patch this relationship with my brother like he really me.
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He stopped working for me We were good, but we never really talked, you know, I mean, I was like, I hate how I'm straight It was fake good He has like I hate how I'm portrayed on Instagram because all of a sudden it went from like a way to be in touch with my friends to like being like puppeteered by a Sponsor like you're obligated to do these posts and you have to say these words and this is before you would put ad Right on there.
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So everybody just thought like oh, yeah Sean
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 really into whatever it is.
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Just all these little things and as I started peeling them away, I just had less and less burden on me and I was just kind of like a happier guy.
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 as you started addressing these things.
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Yeah, the things that were around.
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I was like, oh, what's going on with my relationship I'm in?
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What's going on here?
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You know, like, yeah, I would love to take a vacation.
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I would love to, you know, you know, play music and do it, you know, other interests and passions and things.
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And in turn, so like even working out, like I went to the gym because I knew that after I work out, I just feel better.
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You know, I just like, I'm like,
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 Accomplish something today.
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I just I knew that that would make me feel good So I you know started going to the gym regularly and then obviously you get the benefits of working out regularly 2014 I really started the gym.
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I kind of said I did before but I was you know, I I was getting by I Was you didn't work out or lift before then I did
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 I did a little, but I was a professional skateboarder as well as snowboarder, so all summer long, I'm competing and pumping the ramp, and I never had a break.
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So all the guys that just kicked it in Thailand or wherever, I was in the hunt, still having to be in a pressure situation, competing, exercising, all the things.
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So yeah, it wasn't until 2014 I really started
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 Working out and then a big one was You know, I have found a new manager.
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I found a new, you know Publicist to work with I found amazing physical therapist that was just like super I can start building my little team of everybody that was like really You know on the same page and and knew my goal and help you could help me get there and not kind of get stuck in their own
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 You know, because it's a very selfless sort of position to be in to assist somebody else, you know, and to help them and be part of that team to get to this place.
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And so, you know, they're missing birthdays and they're missing, you know, events and things and their relationships are strained, like all that stuff to, you know, help me get my goal.
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 So, you know, really wonderful people in my corner.
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And then a really awesome coach, this guy named J.J.
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Thomas.
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And he was an ex-professional snowboarder.
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I saw him at the mountain.
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We had fun hanging and riding.
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And I was like, hey, man, you want to team up and do that?
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And just the rapport was there.
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And so I had this awesome little team around me.
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And then when I found myself at the mountain, I was just excited to be there.
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 And the little things that used to bum me out or put me in a bad state of mind were just gone.
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Where do you think you would have been had you not addressed the maybe things in your life that you weren't fulfilled with yet or kind of finalized or resolved with relationships and without having the team to support you?
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Where do you think you'd be if you didn't do those two things?
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 Well, gosh, I mean, I don't think I think I probably would have just quit.
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I'm assuming.
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Yeah.
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I mean, if if you know, why do something if it's not enjoyable?
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And, you know, there's there's a level of fun and then there's a level of, like, fulfillment.
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Yes.
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So it's not that I'm just like there to have a good time.
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Like, sure, there's moments of like, oh, this is really fun.
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We're in
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 We're in Austria, we're in Switzerland, we're eating schnitzel and doing whatever.
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Sure, it's fun, but then the fulfillment comes when you have a goal and you actually make strides to get to that place and achieve that goal or come close.
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 reformulate and come back at it and try it again.
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And you finally get to that place, it's fulfilling.
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And so that's something for me that has always been there in the sport.
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And that's why competing and doing the Olympics and all these things, it's always been so fulfilling is that there was that goal, there was a prize at the end, something to be obtained.
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 But yeah, I think, you know, and I don't even know.
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I mean, it's hard to say, and there's so much what if, but I don't know.
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I could have easily cruised into a third, a three-P, and maybe retired at that point.
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Like, all right.
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 You know, but I got to the Olympics, it didn't go my way, I was upset, I was frustrated, and I was like, wow, okay, well this is probably here to teach me something.
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And I remember, it's so funny, I can see it clear as day, but I was at my home, I had a home in Malibu, and I was sitting on the bluff, it was like on the water, I was sitting on the bluff, like trying to feel really bad for myself.
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I was like, yeah, yeah, no, so like,
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 Literally, I'm like tearing up, like, you blew it, you blew it, you're an idiot.
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You're like, I could have done this, or why didn't I do that?
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All these what ifs, and your brain can just do numbers on you.
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So I'm sitting there spiraling, and I look out, and this whale just like jumped in there, and I was like.
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 Oh my God, is that a whale?
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So majestic.
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And it just broke the whole, I was like, wow, well, things aren't so bad.
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I'm here, this is a beautiful life I've made for myself.
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 I've won two gold medals already.
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But up to that point, I'd never been to an Olympics and lost.
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So I was kind of like, oh, it's all over.
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It's done.
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I just thought that it doesn't matter.
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The other medals are erased if this doesn't happen.
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That's how you felt?
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 Yeah, that's kind of how I operated for a while, like I just like, because you have to stay in the hunt for the next big win, so I'd always like, oh cool, the trophy.
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Okay, and then like, you know, and you've got multiple events and so, and it's literally the first question they ask you, are you going to the next Olympics?
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Right at, you win or lose, right at the end.
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Really?
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Literally, you're like,
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 You're trying to catch your breath, and they're like, so you go to the next one?
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And it's heavy.
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So yeah, so I remember sitting there thinking like, okay, I know how I feel inside, and there were things that didn't go my way, and yeah, I had my plan, which, what does that mean at this point?
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And I remember thinking the thought of, okay, I'm gonna make this the best thing that's ever happened to me.
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And that was- Losing.
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You mean the losing part?
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Yeah, yeah, losing.
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 I was like, I make this the best thing that's ever happened to me.
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And that's when I started with that mindset of like, OK, well, if this was the best thing, then what is the outcome?
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Like, oh, well, I wasn't doing the big media spree, so I have time to do this now.
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I actually just spent time at my house.
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I was like, oh, I have time to reconnect with family or friends.
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I have time.
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I went on.
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I was in a band for a while.
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And the band went on tour because we had time to do that.
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That's cool.
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We did a bunch of fun things.
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 So yeah, and then that whole sort of like, well, if I'm going to go again, what would be the perfect situation?
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And then I started filling in the pieces of the puzzle of like, oh, well, who would my coach be?
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And gosh, you know what?
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Instead of just calling random people to get massages wherever I'm at or physical therapy, what if we just locked in somebody that traveled with me?
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 You knew what you're gonna get every time.
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What if that person's great and they know my body so well?
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And it's almost embarrassing to say that I hadn't had that for years.
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You know, it's not something that's really taught as much.
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Nowadays, it's more spoken about, but like... Now you hear LeBron saying he's spending, you know, a million dollars a year on his body.
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Yeah, for sure, and you don't really think about it.
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I remember hearing that, like, oh, that's cool.
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You know, and the sport of snowboarding, like, it was pretty lame to have a coach even for, like, a long time.
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Yeah, you know, it's like...
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 It wasn't cool or something?
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Yeah, like to have an agent or to have a coach or to, you know, care or to want to win.
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It's like high school.
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Yeah.
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It's like, you know, he cares.
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It's lame.
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So it all kind of happened later.
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And then once I built the team, I was like,
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 How did I even, it's like you get in a pet or something.
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You're like, how did I, I don't remember my life before this.
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How did I get this far?
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So yeah, having the team was amazing.
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And then I guess basically I was on my journey to that next Olympics and I had my plan.
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I love my plans.
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Everything's going to plan.
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I was crushed.
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Everything's going great.
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I'm feeling strong and motivated.
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I got my team.
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 And I'm in New Zealand and I'm like, heck it, I'm gonna go for this trick that I've been trying, I've been procrastinating, putting it off, like, let's just get it done.
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Today's the day.
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 throw the trick, clip the top of the pipe, fly to the bottom.
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The wall is 22 feet tall, so I clip the top, then I bounce, and the sun was, I forget what time it was.
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It was maybe midday, so the sun was here, meaning that this wall's in the shade, and this wall's sunny and soft, so it was the icy wall.
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I clip the top, fly to the bottom, and I caught the edge of my board in the snow, and it put my face into the...
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 snow and You know next thing, you know, I'm like in a helicopter flying to the hospital.
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I'd like ripped my face open and 62 stitches and I'm like pulmonary lung contusion.
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It was just like a really bad crash.
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Yeah And I was like, okay.
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Well, this was this wasn't part of my plan That was a couple months before the Olympus was literally right before.
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Yeah, I was just like, okay like I
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 You know, is this a sign that I should stop?
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What is this?
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And I really had to sit with myself and think about it and go, OK, well, this is in my way for some reason.
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Like, what's to be learned from this?
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 You know, and it just really kind of straightened everything out for me, as strange as that sounds.
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Like, basically, yeah, I'd been telling myself it'd be great to win the Olympics, and oh, this would be nice, and oh, I could do this afterward.
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You know what I mean?
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I had all my plans.
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And then I had this horrible crash.
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And I was like, OK, well, how badly do you really?
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 I'm not even saying you want it, but how badly do you really want it?
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Because going back out on the snow means in some small percentage, but there is a percentage, that I'm willing to let this happen to myself again.
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Again.
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And it was horrible.
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My face is hanging open.
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I'm trying to eat yogurt or whatever I could.
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 I just had three implants in two weeks ago.
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And a bone graft in one place, because I had teeth removed when I was 18 that I never got fixed.
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So I've had these kind of gaps for 20 years.
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My mouth is like kind of collapsing.
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And so I don't know your pain, but I know the pain of like getting those implants was like 10 days of eating yogurt every day and soup.
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It's miserable.
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And it's your face too.
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So like me looking in the mirror and all I remember is,
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 This sweet art angel of a person, this woman named Esther, who's my physical therapist, because I had to do my interviews.
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They're like, well, we need a live hit for the Today Show.
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And I was like, so there I was.
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I was in the air, and I dropped in, and I hit the top.
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 And like, because I couldn't, you know, scars, they're stiff when they heal.
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And it only hurts when you're in the cold, although I'm a snowboarder, so it's always freezing at the bottom.
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And they're like, can we get a hit?
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Like, tell us how the run was.
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And I can barely talk.
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 And all I remember is being in the airport, and you know, scar tissue, you need to break it down.
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So I'm sitting there, like on my phone, in tears, because my physical therapist got her hand in my mouth, and she's just like grinding down the scar tissue.
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And people were walking by like, what the?
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You know, this is before COVID, so you could put your hand in people's mouths.
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 Did you say 60 stitches?
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Yeah, like 62.
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I cut my forehead and through my lip and nose and I bit through my tongue.
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Did you have to do any like dental surgery?
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No, thankfully.
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The only thing that was like an issue was, you know, they kind of let me out of the hospital and then that whole night I felt like I was kind of drowning.
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 What's going on?
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I thought maybe from the procedure was the tube they put down something and I went back and they're like Let's just take a quick x-ray and my lungs were just full of blood.
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Oh my gosh impact had bruised them and so they threw me straight back to the urgent care area and I had to sit there with this little bucket and like get clear of the lungs really and
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 Does that come out a tube that takes it out?
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It was just me breathing in like a humidifier to kind of like loosen.
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Oh my gosh man.
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Yeah it was just like a whole thing but so to come back from that I was like okay well now I gotta like do the trick that put me in the hospital and like my coach is like you got it and I'm like
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 I know but I was pretty sure I had it the last time and so anyways I had to like make this pack with myself.
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I was like okay I'm not gonna do the trick until like I'm ready to do it and the conditions are perfect because I try to force it.
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And so I waited and then man like acts of God happened.
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It was like it was like
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 show up to the event, and the pipe's not built for the first two days, because it was a really bad winter, so it was pretty dry, and they're like, oh, there's only one day of practice.
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Literally, all these weird things.
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I show up for this practice session, and then the machine that builds the half pipes broke.
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Or I flew to Canada, and then the Canada, a giant storm blew in, and then I was like, okay, well, we gotta go back to Mammoth Mountains.
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I go fly to Mammoth Mountain, I got there, and I got really ill.
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I just got the flu or something.
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 So all these weird things kept me.
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It's getting closer to the Olympics, yeah.
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Literally, it's two weeks away at this point.
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And you still haven't done the trick.
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I haven't done, I did it, I did the trick like twice, I think.
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I finally just like got it done, but I hadn't done like repetition and I hadn't, you know, it's a routine, so you would do a trick into that trick into another trick.
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You hadn't done that.
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I hadn't done it.
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 And I'm flying to the Olympics like, well, I guess we'll just do it when we get there.
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Shut up, really?
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Yeah.
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So you didn't do it, you didn't practice the full routine until the Olympics?
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Not until the second run.
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Oh my gosh.
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That's the first time I ever tried that run.
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So I, of course I fell.
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And now deja vu, I'm sitting where I was at the last Olympics.
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Last guy to go.
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There's one more run.
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And I was just like, I want to win this.
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 I don't know, just like I felt it the other way, I was like, I'm going to win this thing for sure.
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There's no way I'm not going to make this run.
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And I just remember thinking like, I can picture it because I was like, you know, enjoy it because you're going to win this thing.
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Wow.
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I remember the orange of the outfits we were wearing, all the
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 banners and flags and things were orange and then they had a big flag at the top and the flag was down meaning no wind and like this it was kind of overcast that day and it started to open up a little bit and I was like this is perfect moment and like a song came on I recognized it's like some Post Malone something I was like let's go!
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 And man, nailed it to win it, you know.
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And so that's why at the end of that Olympics, like, I don't know if I've ever really broken down that much, but it was such an emotional journey to get to that point.
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To like, from the family stuff to, you know, Instagram, whatever, all these things that I changed in my life.
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And then to have that bad accident and really question everything only to get there and win.
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It was just such like a
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 overwhelming of joy and all that.
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So yeah, it was a heavy one.
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I remember watching it live and just, yeah, you had so much emotion.
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But hearing the full story now, I could see why.
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Yeah, so it was heavy.
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And trust me, getting to that point where I'm like, wow, I'm just gonna do it when I get there.
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That's nuts.
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I'd been plotting for over, actually, four years at this point for this one moment.
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I'm gonna show up unprepared.
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How did this happen?
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How did I get to this point?
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 Well, I'm prepared, but 25 years of preparation.
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For sure, for sure.
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I know how to compete.
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I know these things, but like, you know, you want to be ironclad.
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Of course.
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You're kind of winging it.
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Yeah.
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And at this point, I'm like, all right, well, let's see what happens.
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And so that was very unnerving.
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And so.
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And did you know that going into it, like this is a winning combination?
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Like if I can land this perfectly or close to perfect, it's a winner.
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 Pretty much.
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I mean, the only thing is that the other competitor's name is Ayumu.
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He's a Japanese snowboarder.
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He had a very similar run.
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And so I was like, OK, not only do I have to do this run, but just do it bigger and better than he did it.
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So I was like, OK.
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 He's a lot younger than you.
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Yeah, he's a lot younger more fearless.
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Maybe didn't just smash his face a month ago And you know and I was in that pressure spot of like, okay like it's make or break like everyone's watching am I gonna do it or not and And you know all that stuff clicked in and I was like, I'm gonna do it and you knew right when you finished you knew you want and
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 Not exactly, I knew that was the best chance I had, for sure, of winning.
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You knew you did your best.
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It was so intense, and it's all connected, so I don't really remember specific moments.
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So I'm watching the screen going like, okay, I feel like I killed it, but did I touch a hand somewhere?
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Did I land kind of flat and not notice it?
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You're so wound up.
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Yeah.
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 Man, so everybody at the top celebrating, because the score came in right away.
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Like I had won, boom.
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NBC held the score for like a dramatic pause.
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You didn't see it until you were on camera.
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It felt like an eternity, I was just like, and I'm watching, and they had the other athletes here, so I don't want to go near them, because I just, I don't know, I didn't want to look in their faces.
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And so then the judges booth's right in front of me, and I swear I look up in the booth and some guy's doing like a,
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 I'm playing limbo with my fate, you know.
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And so I'm like, ugh.
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And then the crowd and TV cameras here.
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So I'm just kind of like panning around.
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And finally, the score hit.
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And I was just like, I lost it.
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It was so amazing.
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And then just seeing my family and, you know, Jake Burton, the owner of Burton's Newborns, who sadly passed away.
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 you know, amazing moment with him.
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He was just like, how the F do you do every time?
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Because, you know, he's he's congratulated me after every, you know, big win.
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And even even there when the upset happened, you know, so amazing to see like familiar faces and all that.
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And
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 But I was so proud of that all those little steps I took actually paid off.
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They got me to that place where I was seated in the same position and I'm like, I'm gonna win, rather than like, I'm not there.
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So that was, I think, what I was the most proud of after that Olympics.
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 Have you ever had another moment before a run where you're like, I don't think this is going to go well, but it did go well.
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Like you said to yourself, like, ah, man, this is a tough one.
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I don't know.
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We'll see.
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It's 50-50.
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And then you just nail it still.
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There was one.
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It was actually the qualifier to get to that Olympics.
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 We were in Aspen the mountain snow mass and Like kind of similar situation where I show up.
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I'm so excited you get three runs for final the first run I was way too excited.
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Yeah And my coach said what happened I was like, I don't know I'm sorry I just like excited too pumped and like I
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 And as the, you know, it's the mountains, so as the day goes on, these clouds start rolling in, and it's getting colder, so the temp drops, so the snow hardens, it's going faster, and it's like, it's getting scarier, and, you know, the second run, perfect.
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Nailed it, the whole way down, and on the last hit, I like washed out, and I'm like, oh my God, you know?
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And at this point, we're panicking, because we're a couple coal fires deep.
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We still need to make the team.
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 like the commercials are airing that I'm going to the Olympics and I'm like, I haven't made the team, we have to qualify every time.
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So I'm sitting there going like, okay, like, and so I'm talking to, yeah, I got one more run, I'm the last guy to go, same deal, and I talk to my coach and he's like,
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 You know, I'm like, what do I do?
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I'm like, in the start gate, I'm like, what are we doing for that last hit?
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The one that I fell on.
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I'm like, are we going for this big, it's the 1260 is called.
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And I was like, are we going for the 12?
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Or should I dial it back to a nine?
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Or should, like, what are we doing?
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And he was just kind of like, you know, I'm talking to him about it.
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And out of nowhere, he's like, do the 14.
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 Which is?
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Which is, you know, it's all just degrees of rotation.
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More rotations?
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More, yeah.
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And I was like.
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So he said, do we do 12 or nine?
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He said, no, more.
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Yeah, do the 14.
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And I was like, what do you mean?
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He's like, on the first hit.
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We were talking about the last hit.
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On the first drop, go ahead.
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He's like, do the 14.
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You've practiced it so much.
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You're ready.
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Just do the 14.
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And I was like.
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And I remember looking at him being like.
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 Sure, okay, yeah.
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And the guy's literally telling me to go at this point.
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He's like, go.
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And I was like, so what are we doing?
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He's like, I don't know.
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I was like, well, I kind of gotta go.
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We're having this argument.
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And he's just, and the guy's like, come on, like right already, like go.
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And so I remember like giving him the like fine, basically like saying like, if it doesn't work, it's your fault.
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 Nailed it.
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I fully nailed it.
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And it gave me the second win.
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And then I start hammering the run.
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Best part is, I'm on the last hit, and I was like, we never decided what we were going to do the last hit with.
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Because we only talked about the first hit.
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 And so I was like, well, I'm already on the heater.
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I might as well go for the 12, the harder trick.
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Like, let's just do it.
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And boom, I went from like, I think I was in like, like second to last place on the, on the roster.
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 to like winning, I won with that run, but I got a perfect hundred score.
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Like I nailed it.
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Like I nailed the run.
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And that's only been handed out once before, which was actually for me at the X Games event.
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So this is, you know, but it meant a lot to me because that X Games judging and the actual Olympic judging is a little bit different.
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So it was like, oh, it felt even more official maybe.
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I shouldn't say that.
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It was just as amazing either way.
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But like went from dead last to like,
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 You know, winning the competition, perfect 100 score, making the Olympic team all in like a couple seconds there.
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And 20 seconds before, you didn't know what you were going to do.
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I didn't know the run.
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Yeah, I didn't know what we were going to do.