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Call from Smelly.
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Hello?
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Is this the Gecko?
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Yeah, who s this?
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Hey, this is Smelly.
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Have we spoken before, Smelly?
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We have not.
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This is my third time calling, so I m really excited to speak to you, Lyle.
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How s your New Year gone so far?
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Am I the first caller of the New Year?
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Yes, you are.
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You re my first call of the New Year.
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What s, uh, what s cracking, Smelly?
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Not too much, my man.
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I started listening to you
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couple weeks ago and wanted to give you a call because, yeah, I don t know, I just turned 30 years old.
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I moved back in my parents  basement here recently.
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I went through some kind of rough year the past year.
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I was living in a trailer in the woods, kind of doing some hard drugs and shit, and then ended up like getting drugged by some people that I thought were close to me.
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They ended up GHB-ing me, and I kind of got
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sexually assaulted.
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So I woke up with a sore asshole this morning and was not something I wanted to go through by any means.
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So, you know, yeah, just kind of wanted to call in and get your advice and see what you have to say about it, Mr. Gay.
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OK, beginning 2024 with with a lot.
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How did you end up in a forest in a trailer doing drugs?
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Um, so I d moved out to I was in California at the time.
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So I moved up to California out of college, I had a really good job.
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But I was like super lost.
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I was just like, you know, yeah, but at the end of it, I had worked for seven years and technology sales and like made my way up and was account executive was making $150,000 a year.
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Um, but then COVID happened and I was able to move wherever I wanted and I was still feeling lost.
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I was still 23 at the time, you know?
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Um, so I decided to move to the woods and I wanted to learn how to homestead and how to farm.
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And I did, I did learn that.
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I learned how to raise chickens and ducks and work with goats and learn how to grow weed and all that good stuff.
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So I learned a lot out there for sure about like homesteading and living off the land, living off grid and.
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I kind of wanted to learn that in a certain way, I guess.
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But then, yeah, the stress of my job, I ended up getting in this really bad car accident in 2021, like almost died, hit a tree, fell asleep on the wheel, hit a tree.
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Yeah, yeah, it was really bad.
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So then I ended up quitting my job after that and kind of starting to explore the homesteading life more, you know what I mean?
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Diving more into that side of myself.
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It was kind of like the movie, Into the Wild, it felt like.
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I think there s a lot of ego built through that.
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I don t know.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I mean, Into the Wild ended with, um, the guy dying.
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So I m glad that you didn t die.
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Me as well.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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So you, how long were you in the trailer for?
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Um, let s see.
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It was probably like eight months.
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Um.
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Okay.
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What kind of drugs were you doing?
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I was doing meth, or yeah, crystal.
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Okay.
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Are you clean from meth now, now that you re moving out of the woods?
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Yes, sir, yep.
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I ve been clean for over a year now.
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That s great.
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I stopped drinking hard liquor about a year ago, too.
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That s great.
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They were kind of a combination of the two things.
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I was like finishing on 175 in three days and banging an ounce of meth in like a month.
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Were you alone in the trailer?
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No.
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I mean, I was on, um, I was on this lady s land.
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Like my landlady was, she had a house like within half a mile that I could walk to and we checked it in every day.
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And then I had a girl that was like my girlfriend at the time.
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And she would come to see me and spend days with me at a time, which was very magical actually.
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Great.
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Um, and then what was the catalyst for leaving the woods and coming back home?
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Um, it was definitely a sexual assault for sure.
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That just kind of woke me up, like snap me into a, uh, yeah, you know, that definitely snapped me out of a lot of the kind of, um, whatever you want to call it, the fog I was in or whatever.
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And, um, when you, how long ago was it that you left the trailer and came back to your parents  house?
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It s been about eight months now, yeah, in April.
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How have the eight months been?
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It s been good, you know.
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I mean, yeah, I m still getting over the fact that I m 30 in my parents  basement, but once I ve kind of re-established that relationship and the fact that I m safe and
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I think, I think there s several worse things to be than 30 living in your mom s basement.
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One of them is probably doing meth in a trailer in the woods.
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So I d say you re on an upward trajectory.
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I agree.
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Um, where do you want to go from here?
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I don t know.
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Yeah.
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It s been traumatic couple of years.
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Right.
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Um,
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just kind of like going from making that much money to not making any money now.
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But then I learned a lot of skills and now I m kind of, I m doing lands.
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I had done landscaping over the summer.
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Um, and now I m doing, you know, door dash, anything I can kind of make a couple extra bucks on.
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So I think it s kind of figuring, but I also, you know, I got a college degree, so it s like, I m kind of deciding between do I, I really like working with my hands.
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So I kind of want to go into trade school, but I also could go get a master s degree and like,
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natural resources stewardship or something where it would be like working with the land and indigenous communities or Certain communities that have big pots of land that need help like managing, you know So, yeah, I don t know that s this kind of thing but I yeah, I always change my mind too What s your degree in It was in sustainable systems management a bachelor of science
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That s cool.
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Did you ever hold a job that was related to your degree?
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Not directly.
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I, um, I d went into sales just cause yeah, I was moderately good at it.
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Um, back when I was like a sophomore in college and I was kind of stuck with that for seven years.
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So, um, yeah, I did different.
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Yeah.
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CPG companies and then tech companies.
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Are you still, uh, with your girlfriend?
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Uh, no, she s back in California still.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Hmm.
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Uh, what s your relationship like with your parents that you re staying with?
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It s solid for sure.
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I m very blessed.
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I m very, very lucky to have better, you know, alive and able and willing to, yeah, take me in and kind of support me and be there for me in that way.
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So I m very grateful for that.
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Um, now do you have like friends or, or any other kind of, uh, like a community besides just your parents?
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Yeah, no doubt.
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So I have a lot of, I m back, like obviously I m from where I m originally from now, or I m back where I m from originally from.
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So I have all my like hometown friends that I ve been reconnecting with over these past eight months or so.
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Um, so I m definitely close with them for sure.
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Yeah, I m going to start doing some coaching in the spring.
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So that ll be good to kind of like that my first like group organization that I m kind of getting myself back into since working in corporate life.
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So that ll be good.
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Mm-hmm Yeah, I feel like that s important You know I ve I ve spent many a time just isolated and It s probably not good.
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It s probably not healthy.
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I m no Dr. Lizard guy, I m just a dumbass with a podcast, but it s probably It s probably it s probably healthy
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Okay, so you re getting yourself back out around other human beings, not isolated in the woods.
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You re clean off of meth.
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Again, everything you ve told me sounds as though you were on an upward trajectory as I m talking to you right now.
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Do you believe that about yourself?
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Certainly, yes.
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Yeah, I definitely do.
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I guess it s just something, you know, two years ago when I was working corporate, I never thought I would be doing that in a trailer kind of thing.
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So it s like, I don t talk about it often, right?
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So I really appreciate you being here to be able to, yeah, kind of help me air it out a little bit.
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It means a lot.
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Well, here s the thing though, is the grass is always greener, right?
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Because there s so many people with corporate jobs that probably wish that they were doing drugs in a van in the woods.
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Yeah.
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Well, what s your dream, man?
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What do you want to do with the rest of your life?
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I want to make enough money to support myself and buy a plot of land eventually.
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I want to raise my chickens and my ducks and get a horse.
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have some kind of live off the land, you know, in the most sustainable way possible, but also maintain a good connection with the community to make sure I don t get lost like I did in the past, because that was fun.
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I like that.
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Um, I don t think that you living at home, you know, you living at home in your mom s basement at 30, I don t think that that s, uh, you know, from what I understand about you and what you want to do with your life, I don t think that s any kind of impediment to your goals.
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Not that I know, uh, how to start a farm from scratch, but, um, you know,
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Something sometimes man, and I really do believe this like if you re so far gone Right if you re just like, you know Just at your at your lowest and you re addicted to drugs and you re you know just just at like Yeah, you re all the way at the at the
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left-hand side of the spectrum of where you want to be and you want to get closer to the right-hand side, right?
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You gotta, you know, take it one step at a time, right?
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That s why I keep saying that you re on an upward trajectory and that that s important because, you know, you have a lot of time to achieve this farm dream of yours.
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And I think, again, it seems like you re on an upward trajectory.
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So I would celebrate those those small victories Right.
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I mean what there s no real timeline to get any of this stuff done by so You know, I mean, I mean don t I wouldn t chill out and you know, eat all your mom s Food and use all over toilet paper and stuff.
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That s what I was doing for a little bit Yeah, you know don t Don t fuck don t fucking hate yourself over it
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Right.
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I appreciate that.
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Yeah.
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Those small steps.
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I think it s, yeah, it s hard where I m now.
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Right.
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Where it s like so far gone or so far away.
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Yeah.
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Like I felt like I lost a lot of stuff over the past couple of years, but, um, yeah, thinking about it more where I m growing towards where I want to be.
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Um, I appreciate that.
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That s why I wanted to talk to you, Geck.
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You re going to be like a Disney movie, a Disney movie.
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I want to be like,
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What would I be?
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Can I be like a cuttlefish?
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I want to be a cuttlefish.
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You know cuttlefish?
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No, you re a farmer and you have a bunch of whimsical talking animals.
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But can we make it underwater as like a cuttlefish making like a kelp forest?
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Hey, listen, um, Smelly... It s a Disney movie.
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Listen, Smelly, I support you and your dream, but the first thing you need to know about being a farmer is that you can t fucking do it underwater.
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Debatable.
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You gotta google some more stuff there, Geck.
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Bro, if you become the first underwater farmer, I will eat my words.
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I will personally- You ll literally be eating underwater words.
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I ll tell you this, if you become the first underwater farmer, I will grow gills and live in a cage in your farm underwater.
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That s my deal to you.
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What?
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Give me five years.
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There we go.
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All right, you re leaving.
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It sounds to me as though you were leaving this phone call slightly motivated to achieve your goals for the purpose of enslaving me underwater, and that makes me happy to hear.
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I would dare say highly motivated.
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Well, Smelly, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Are you coming to Minnesota?
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Am I coming to Minnesota?
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Where the fuck is Minnesota?
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What s the biggest city in Minnesota?
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Fucking Midwest.
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Is it Minneapolis?
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Jonasville.
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It s Jonasville.
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Is Minneapolis in Minnesota or is Minneapolis somewhere else?
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Yeah, Minneapolis.
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The Twin Cities, Minneapolis, St.
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Paul.
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Minneapolis, St.
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Paul.
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Okay.
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I think I m coming to Minneapolis in the, I don t want to promise.
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I think I m coming.
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Not in the promises, but not in part one, but in part two of like somewhere in the fall, I think.
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Yeah, that d be dope.
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Well, if I do, I ll come, um, well, here s the thing.
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I ll come, I ll come at some point to check out the underwater farm, I guess as an aquarium, wait, hold on.
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Is it an aquarium is kind of an underwater farm, isn t it?
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You can start an aquarium.
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No, no, no.
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You said I m going to be the first one to do it.
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So.
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I m gonna let you know when I get it done.
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But yeah, it may be already a thing.
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So maybe I m just piggybacking off someone else.
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I don t know.
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Aquarium guys.
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Aquarium guys.
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Thank you, Gak.
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Thank you, Smelly.
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I hope you have a wonderful 2024.
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I love you.
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Bye, Smelly.
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Hello?
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Hi there.
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What s your name?
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Hi, Kate.
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Kate, what s going on?
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How s being a, how s being a human being on the earth?
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Um, so I was in this like year long relationship where the guy like really screwed me over.
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Like he cheated on me and lied to me and just kind of like strung me along and
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It even started actually the whole relationship started and I ll regret this forever.
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But the relationship kind of even started with him cheating on his ex girlfriend with me.
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Oh, yeah.
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So I mean, I will regret this literally to the day I die.
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But like, I was like, stupid.
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And I was like, Oh, that s because I m special.
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And she talks and blah, blah, blah.
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Sure.
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But obviously, he like immediately started intending to me it lasted for like a year.
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And then we broke up.
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But ever since then, I ve kind of been stalking him and harassing him because I m so angry.
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I ll threaten to show up at his work and sometimes I do.
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I go to his house.
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He ll block my number and I ll make new numbers.
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I m so angry.
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I m just so angry.
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Okay.
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I m like trying to get even.
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Okay.
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Uh, well, I mean, what I ll tell you about this is that, uh, I mean, you already know that you shouldn t be doing this and, and I think, I guess you re calling me for further validation of that, but, um, I guess let s talk real quick about how everything you re doing is, I m going to actually explain, like,
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The perspective you gotta have on this is that you doing all these things is not you getting even.
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It s actually the opposite.
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It s actually, um, getting... It s actually just making life worse for you.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, no, I completely agree.
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It is making life worse for me.
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But it s like, it s like this obsession that I can t let go of.
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Like, to the... He s also like,
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It s like, it s like an obsession of like with getting like, get like, I will stop talking to him for a week and like leave him alone.
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And then like this anger bubbles up in me and I m like, I can t believe he did all this to me.
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And then I m like, I have to like ruin his day.
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And then I will like go out.
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Yeah, sure.
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No, no, no.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But what s your name again?
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Kate.
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But Kate, again, do you understand why spending any amount of your valuable lifetime harassing this guy, stalking this guy, bathing... I mean, it s masturbatory.
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It s just indulging in your anger.
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um and and that indulging making your life worse you know it s like a drug it s like you re like you re like succumbing yourself to to the adrenaline of this really intense emotion um and i understand why you re you know i
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look I m telling you to just stop but you know yes this is a a that s that s that s the I guess quote complication of it but you know you have to find a way to exert some kind of I mean some kind of mindfulness right some ability to when your anger is popping off your ability to look at it and go okay
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I m at you because you got you have your animal self that s that s rash and emotional and makes poor decisions in the heat of the moment because it only knows the present and
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and then you have your higher human brain that can recognize when you re having negative thoughts that are going to lead to bad things for you and you are endowed as a human being with the ability to recognize those thoughts and put a leash on them and go, I m not gonna indulge in this today because I m using my higher human brain
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to understand that this is just going to make my life worse and that I m not going to be able to move on if I keep indulging.
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And, you know, it s a hard thing.
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There s a lot.
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There s a lot of I mean, I mean, gaining a mastery over your mind and your emotions is a lifelong journey.
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And I m not there for sure.
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But, you know, I mean, that s what you got to do.
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I know it s kind of true like I do I honestly feel like a wild animal like what I m doing it like I lose all control and I m just like obsessed with revenge but I know it s like if I had just dropped this a year ago then I would have spent the last year like living my life and I wouldn t have spent every single day obsessed with it every time I do it does it s just like
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It just feels like a true addiction.
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I almost feel like I m going through withdrawal when I m not doing it.
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Because I m like 3-4 days in and I have to go shake up the situation somehow.
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Otherwise I m just sitting here and I feel like a loser, like I lost.
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I was, recently I was very, very mad at someone.
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And I would find myself in my, and it was taking over my brain, it was really taking up valuable space in my brain.
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I was furious and I would find myself in my car or alone.
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I d find myself like yelling at them, like to me, you know what I m saying?
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Like I would like...
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be alone, screaming at this person, just like letting it all out, and I m like, just indulging in the feelings.
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Not actually screaming at that, but like, you know, being, just like yelling in my car, like being pissed off.
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And it just took away valuable space that my brain could have used for better thoughts and ideas and whatnot.
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And every time I would get those thoughts, things would bubble up, and I d get angry at it.
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I d have to fucking wrangle it, and I d have to be like, dude, you re just indulging in your anger, and it s extremely unproductive, and it s ruining your days, and it s not good.
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So, you know, you can t control, um, you know, the events of what happened to you, what this guy did, and whatnot, but you gotta take, you gotta understand your power in letting those thoughts get to you.
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or deciding not to and that you re going to move on with your life.
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Yeah, I guess it s just like mindfulness and like not, I mean it s just like a constant, like I have to constantly like stay on top of like not succumbing to these like really intense outbursts.
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Or you could kill him.
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No, don t do that.
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Kate, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Um, uh, who the fuck is that?
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Sorry that my sister is listening to me like she thought she s her biggest fan and she wants to say hi.
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I ll say hi to your sister.
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Hi vile.
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Hey, what s up?
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What s your what s house life?
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Um, it s not ideal, but
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I know you have like other callers.
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I just wanted to say I am one of your biggest fans.
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Oh, thank you.
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It s so nice.
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Yeah, you re you re really doing God s work.
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So thank you.
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I love you.
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And we re gonna come try and see one of your shows.
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Oh shit.
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What city?
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We don t know yet.
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I have to look at the list because I didn t even know until I didn t know you guys.
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I didn t know you were doing another tour until this
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Podcast or whatever like this stream, so I gotta go look sweet.
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What s your name?
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Are very nice to meet you and tell your sister to hang in there Yeah, yeah, I will um She s like a lot of stuff.
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She didn t say that I m not gonna say but the guy like I
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There s a lot of stuff he did that I m sure, but I m sure, but, but, but this is, this is about, you know.
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Yeah.
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I don t know.
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Yeah.
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Well, our, um, everything you ve read made sense.
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Okay.
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Good.
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Good.
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Um, are, is there anything else you want to say to the people, the computer before we go?
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Yeah.
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Um, everyone out there who s depressed and struggling right now, uh,
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Keep keep on going and maybe things will get better one day.
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I Don t know I do this is not a good thing to say, but I just I just thought about it I was really today.
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I was thinking like if I were dead.
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I wouldn t have to do anything and that d be kind of nice I Think about that every day.
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I m not good.
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I m not gonna do anything all right.
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I m not good I don t think I don t think that s good.
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I think it s good to do stuff.
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I think I
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Being dead and not doing anything is one of those things that sounds nice, but when you get there, it s bad.
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But I did indulge in that thought for two seconds, but now we re good.
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Okay, well if you ever want to drink the Kool-Aid with me, just let me know.
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I m glad to know that that plan C is on the table, R. Thank you.
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Okay, you have a beautiful, wonderful, amazing evening.
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You as well.
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And eventually I ll see you at your show.
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Beautiful.
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Take care, guys.
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Thank you.
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Bye.
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What s up, chat?
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Imagine your therapist saying that.
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I have to say it.
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I can t.
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I just thought I can t.
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I m not going to do it.
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I m not going to do it.
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I m not going to lie.
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I m not going to get up here, and I m not going to look into the camera and go, everyone who s struggling out there, I know.
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I m not going to do it.
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That s not who I am.
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Who I am is, I think, it just would be easier to be dead.
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That s not an invitation to kill yourself.
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It s not.
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You shouldn t kill yourself.
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But it s just a thought that comes into my head.
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And it is true.
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It s factual.
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It is factual.
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That it is easier to be dead than alive.
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But just because something is easier doesn t mean that s the right route.
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Often the harder route is usually the better one.
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So take the hard route and don t kill yourself.
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You know?
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Alright, whatever.
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Hello?
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Hey Lyle.
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What s up dude?
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Hey.
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So I wanted to talk about a worry I ve been having about moving out.
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Yeah please.
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Okay.
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So right now I live with my mom and I take very large poops
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And I clog the toilet all the time.
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And I don t know, I can t afford to move out by myself.
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But if I move in with somebody, I don t think that would work out.
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You know what I mean?
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Dude, I literally I had a I had a horribly embarrassing.
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I am a serial toilet clogger.
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And I for and for and I don t know how you how you feel about this.
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But for a long time, I lived in a state of denial, where I thought that it was the toilets.
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No, I ve called too many.
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I ve clogged too many.
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I ve clogged toilets in every U.S.
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state.
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No, that s not true.
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Every one that I ve been to, I ve clogged a toilet in.
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I was living... I was recently... I did a little move, and in between my move, I was living at my parents  house again.
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for like a few weeks and I had clogged my toilet in my room and so I went downstairs to use the other toilet the toilet in the in the living room like the main toilet and I fucking clogged that one and
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They were both clogged at the same time.
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They were both clogged.
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And then I m hanging out in my room and my mom knocks on my door and she s like, you fucking clogged the... She s nicer about it.
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She asked me if I... Yeah.
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Well, she was like, she told me.
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She said, is your toilet clogged and the downstairs toilet clogged?
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Because you only use the downstairs toilet when your toilet is clogged.
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I m like, fuck.
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And I m and I m you know, I ve been all over the world.
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I have like thousands of people who listen to fucking call me for advice about fucking life and I m in my room in my underwear Talking to with my mom yelling at me for clogging every fucking toilet in my house Yeah, like it was like what the fuck am I doing?
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Yeah, there is.
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Okay, so I was at a hospital and
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And I saw there were blades in the toilet.
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And I m thinking that if that s because if it clogs, they can like shred it like a blender.
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Yeah.
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So I don t know if you can buy that.
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Or just keep a blender in your bathroom or something.
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Yeah.
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Like where, where, where?
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Like if you, like every time I go to my grandma s house, I clog the toilet because if you re like a grandma or like, like, like residential toilets, like old toilets, they clog so easily.
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But if you go to the, but you, I will never clog the toilet at an airport because the, they all have like the industrial, like, you know, it really like the water pressure is good.
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You know what I m talking about?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I love those toilets.
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They re great.
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I, they make me feel like a real human being.
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Yeah.
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I had, I had one time I was at a, we were driving home and I was, we stopped in like a small town.
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There was like a Chevron and it s like a super small gas station.
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Like the, like the, the bathroom doors like behind the clerk s counter.
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And I went in and I took a giant shit and clogged it.
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And then when I came out, there was like a line of like three or four people to go in.
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Oh, I ve done that before.
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Bro, you just dip out.
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Yeah, I just ran to the car and was like, go, go.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don t know what, I wonder if they like actually went though or they just, they left.
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I like to think that they all just came in there.
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I m 26.
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I don t know.
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Might have been something about when we were born.
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I talk to my friends and they don t seem to have this problem.
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But I have Sam.
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Yeah, it s because I don t know anybody else.
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And then people say like,
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Oh, it s the toilet paper.
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You use too much toilet paper, but like, if I know it s a big shit, I will flush before I wipe.
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Just so it has better chances of going down and it won t go down.
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Okay, here s the thing, and I was, like, okay, I don t know what the appropriate amount of toilet paper is, because I like a big clump, right?
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Because apparently you re only supposed to use, like, two squares.
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But what, but if I use two squares of toilet paper, I just get a bunch of shit on my hands.
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That s not enough to cover my fingers.
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And now I have shit fingers.
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And then I use the bathroom, I wash my hands, and now I m just walking around with shit on my fingers.
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So I don t know.
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I guess everybody else is just digging their fucking hands in their asses because they want to seem like they re better than us because they don t clog the toilet.
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I don t know.
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I don t know.
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It s not a very proper thing.
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Just wipe your ass however you want to do it.
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So are you going to move out?
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I don t know.
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Well, that s what I m actually worried.
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So I was actually, I, cause I don t know what to do.
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Like, this isn t even a joke.
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I was actually thinking like, maybe I could get used to just like putting a glove on and like mashing it up.
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But I don t want to do that.
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Like as a regular thing.
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Yeah.
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And I have, I have a video and it s, I m not kidding.
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I have a shit that s like two feet long.
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It goes from like the, the, it s out of the water up to like the lip of the toilet bowl.
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And then it s back down disappearing through the bottom of the toilet.
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So I don t even know how long it actually was.
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And I flush it and it just doesn t even budge.
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Oh, so your problem is not the toilet paper, man.
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Your problem is you actually are taking toilet cloth.
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No, it looks like an animal.
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Like if I saw it, I wouldn t, nobody would think it was a human.
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That s crazy, man.
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Have you been to a doctor about this?
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No.
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I do have a story about, uh, I thought I had a tapeworm once and I showed the doctor and he s like, that s a bean sprout.
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So I was just at the doctor for no reason showing him.
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a bean sprout that came out of my ass.
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That s cool, I like that story.
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So, you were talking to me and you said you cleaned, what happened within this call is you were talking to me about something and then I used it as an opportunity to talk about my own toilet clogging problems because I was excited to finally talk to somebody about clogging a toilet, but I ve lost track.
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You re trying to move out, but you re afraid to move out because you re afraid you re going to clog the toilet?
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What s going on?
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Yeah, I don t know.
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I just don t know what the salute, cause there s no way other people would be cool with that.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh yeah, you re okay getting roommates.
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Why don t you live alone?
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Can you, can you, can you live alone?
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I live in California and I m not, I don t make enough to do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Yeah.
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So like I would need, I would need to just rent a room and it s kind of like, I can t really, it s not urgent, but I have to kind of move out soon.
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So.
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Hey, I got an idea.
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Why don t you find a way to... Why don t you start an OnlyFans or something?
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Find a way to monetize your poops.
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That would probably work.
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No, it wouldn t work at all.
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You don t think that would work?
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No, I don t think so.
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Then do it, please.
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Please, if you can do that, I m quitting this fucking podcast.
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I m gonna go do that.
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That sounds great.
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Okay.
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We could start a fan site.
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Yeah, I like that idea.
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I m sorry, that s the extent of, I think, how I would solve this problem.
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What I would do is I would just get my roommate s A.E., my mom, get mad at me and I, you know...
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deal with the, I just, I just let the shame hit me like a fucking stack of bricks.
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And then, you know, it won t kill you.
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You just got to take it.
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You just got to take it.
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I feel like they would, they d probably make me leave.
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How are they going to, all right, good luck paying the fucking rent.
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Well, they could just find another normal shitting person.
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How are they going to do that?
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You re on the lease, aren t you?
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Put it in the lease.
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Make sure that it s in the lease that you re allowed to clog the toilet as much as you want.
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Sneak that in there where no one s looking.
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Okay.
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What s your name again?
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Sam.
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Sam.
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Sam, this was great.
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Thanks.
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This truly was very therapeutic for me.
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You ve been the therapy echo to me tonight.
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I appreciate that.
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Yeah, of course.
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It was good to meet somebody else with the same problem.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Um... I don t know.
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Try not to clog the toilet, I guess.
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Or I guess they could, uh... Well, I don t know how they d let me know if they find a solution.
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I don t know.
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Keep watching Geck.
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He gives good advice.
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Thanks, man.
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Take care.
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Alright, take care.
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We did it 11 minutes on clogging toilets, whatever.
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I don t care.
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That s the truth That whole story of clogging every toilet in my fucking parents house.
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That s my life.
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That s real It s not cool Call from Luke Hello.
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Hello.
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What s up, Luke?
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How s it going?
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Not much man.
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I m just Chilling.
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I m got off from break from college and I
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So I m a little nervous right now.
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I didn t actually think it would go through.
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And here it is.
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I m just through.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I m just calm about, I ve had a little bit of like struggles these past few years in terms of like, I don t know, just kind of like realizing what I want to be and what I want to do and things that I don t want to be.
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And I don t know, that s kind of my one to call about.
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Well, um, do you have anything in regards to that that you want to elaborate on?
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Um, I would just say like, I don t know.
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I, um, when I was younger, I struggled a lot with like obsessiveness and getting obsessed with like different things.
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And like about two years ago, I went on a missions trip, a religious trip, kind of like, uh, being a missionary and such.
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And during that time, I was struggling with my faith and everything.
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And I was just reflecting a lot on my past family.
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My dad was a big yeller.
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And he was kind of abusive in some ways, the way he yelled at people.
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And I don t know, I just kind of like, I don t want to be like that.
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And at one point during the trip, I got so anxious to the point that I just was kind of questioning who I was.
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Kind of like, I just became so like perfectionistic.
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And I remember watching like this thing called this documentary, you know, like, like serial killers, like John Wayne Gacy and all that.
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I am familiar with the idea of serial murder.
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Sure.
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Yeah, I am.
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During this whole trip, I was like trying to be perfect and everything and all that.
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And I was like questioning everything and
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I don t know, I watched a documentary on Netflix about that, and it was weird watching it.
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Are you about to say that you were questioning what to do with your life, and you saw a bunch of guys kill and eat people, and you were like, hmm, maybe I should kill and eat people.
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That d be a good life path.
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It worked out for those guys.
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I was talking with someone the other day about how, from the perspective of a murderer,
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Bet I bet if it s like your favorite thing to do I bet if you really like it if you were like John What s his name Jeffrey Dahmer John Wayne Gacy John Wayne Gacy Jeffrey Dahmer I bet if That s your thing Then like doing it killing and eating a person it probably is awesome If it s your favorite thing you don t I m saying yeah, it kind of sounds like it um I guess like I
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I don t know.
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I was just thinking about it.
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And when I was watching it, like typically over my trip, I was trying to like, I was obsessed with this thing called, you know, MBTI is like personality types and all that.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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And I was like obsessed with this idea of being this like really good person.
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I remember like on the test, I like, I like took it and I didn t really have that many, too many close friends in high school, but I remembered like, Oh, I got the guy who was the protagonist, the guy who always wants, does the great thing.
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But I got on my trip and I wasn t really that.
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I had a lot of problems with like the instructors and X, Y, and Z. And I was like so obsessively like bringing down myself if I messed up.
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And I guess I watched it and I saw like John Wayne Gacy struggle with like his sexuality as a kid.
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And I don t know.
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I just like some of the things like I remember it said that he would like put on like
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women s garments is like whenever he was nine.
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And I don t know, whenever I struggle with my sexuality, I like did that.
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And it just like was so weird because he was like a very outgoing, like he took control of things.
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And I thought of myself in that kind of way.
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But whenever I saw him do that, he led himself into a life that was like, he became obsessed with power and then having power over other people.
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And that got to a point like sexually where he wanted to like kill people, kill young men.
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I ve never felt that way ever.
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That s good.
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I think, um, so you re telling me you were like, uh, okay, John Wayne Gacy, I m with you on the wearing women s clothing.
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I m with you on being confused in my sexuality, but the killing and eating people I m not on board with.
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That s the part where you stop.
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Yeah, that s where it stops.
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Yeah, I hope so.
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But during the trip, I was just like so freaked out.
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And it s not really something I think that much about anymore.
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But I like had to like really repress it and stop thinking about it.
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I remember like later on the trip, I ll like pray out to Jesus.
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And I know not that many people on the podcast probably like vibe or I don t know.
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I can vibe with those people.
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Let s vibe with Jesus.
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Yeah, I don t know.
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I just kind of like
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It was something where I had to like pray out that like I would get like thoughts that would intrude because I have never thought about this kind of thing ever in my entire life.
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But what are you talking about?
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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I m lost.
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Are you are you just talking about being gay or are you talking about killing people?
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Uh, not kind of just like thoughts of me becoming a person who is like that, not even that.
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Hold on.
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That is not an answer to my question at all.
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Oh, just OK.
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So like not the
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Not really the kind of the gate thing, but also like also just like whenever I watched it I saw Someone hold on.
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Are you talking about being gay or killing people?
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I?
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Mean I wouldn t I would say like killing people, but it s not something that I ve necessarily like personally thought about but it s something I feared and
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that possibly I would become something like that, I guess.
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Yeah, sure.
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Sure.
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How old are you?
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I m 20.
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Okay.
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Have you ever had the urge to kill?
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No.
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I don t think I have.
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Like I ve played a lot of sports where I ve like played football and like that was fun and whatever, but no, I haven t.
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I would definitely say not.
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Okay.
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Um,
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Luke, you seem like a nice guy.
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Um, I m so sorry.
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I ve been, uh, talking about killing so much.
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I feel like I ve lost track of where exactly we are with this issue.
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I would just say it s like, I don t know, just something to talk about.
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And whenever I like, is it something that I ve talked about before to other people?
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And it s always something that s like, I have to always clarify.
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No,
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I don t actually think like that, but my own, it s hard to even talk about, like you were trying to stop me and saying like, Oh, being gay or killing people.
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But it wasn t really like, whenever I think back, it was more just like, I related to those things and I was already so obsessed with being something.
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And I would look at other people and I would want to become something.
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that I necessarily wasn t, but once I saw those traits in someone else, that... You know what I think, Luke?
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I just think, listen, the universe of men wearing women s clothing, there s a whole universe of it.
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There s there s there s like RuPaul s drag race and whatnot.
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Oh, I guess what I m trying to say to you is that if you need a a role model of some kind or somebody to look at to you know Compare your own life to just to make some sense of it.
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You can probably find somebody better than John Wayne Gacy Probably he was a He s a psychopath.
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He was an evil man
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So, you know, I m sure that there are people who have had similar life experiences as you that have not gone on to kill people.
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Um, so don t, I would, don t, don t freak out.
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I appreciate that.
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I appreciate that a lot because you ve been talking about it.
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It s like, I ve talked about it before.
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And anytime someone hears that, I was like, I m always afraid of talking about it because like, as soon as I say that they think, Oh, this guy has thought about doing this to people.
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just get someone new get just find a different person than John Wayne Gacy he s I don t think I don t think that the drag community are like our John Wayne Gacy
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I don t think that they claim him.
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Yeah, that makes that would make a lot of sense.
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He killed Nate boys.
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He did kill any boys which tends to people frown upon that.
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What s your name again?
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I m Luke.
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Luke.
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Well, Luke.
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Did you feel like this was a productive conversation?
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Yeah, I would say it definitely was it put things into more perspective.
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Put things into just thinking about like, you know, I think I ve been so obsessed on the idea of not being something, but I think what you re like, what you re saying makes sense.
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Logically where it s like, don t even think about that.
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Just think about like, that s not even those two things aren t related.
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I guess since I was like the first experience where I like, I don t know.
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You re afraid that you re going to start getting urges to do John Wayne Gacy shit.
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Yeah, that s why I was like afraid that at some point that would come upon me.
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Like, as a kid, it was pretty taboo.
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Like, of course, I live in a pretty religious home.
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So like, already being interested in like, the shit I was interested in was pretty taboo.
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So I was just hoping to God that at one point that would never happen.
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Yeah, I think I m gonna end, I m gonna say this to you.
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Luke, I don t think that all people who question their sexuality and wear women s clothing turn out to be serial murderers.
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Yeah.
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Luke, is there anything else that you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
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Just thank you.
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That one guy did, but that was just one guy.
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That was just one guy.
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And there s also Buffalo Bill, but it doesn t matter.
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What were you going to say?
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Well, there s a lot of people.
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There s a couple people.
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There s a couple.
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You re right, there s a couple of them, but it s not even a percentage.
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It s less than 1%, so don t worry about it.
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What were you going to say?
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be happy, do whatever.
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I m trying to do my thing and I hope everyone does as well.
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I m trying to be a scientist one day.
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So I was just pull little connections from like different things and I was, I don t know, but I appreciate it a lot.
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Wow.
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Of course.
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Take care, man.
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Good, good luck.
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Um, good luck trying not to develop a, a lust for blood.
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Take care, Luke.
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Bye-bye.
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Okay, someone in the chat just said, does Lyle think Buffalo Bill is real?
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Fuck, is he not real?
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He s based off of a real person?
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Whatever.
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I m gonna manifest him as real.
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Wait, no, that s bad.
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Okay, I will not manifest Buffalo Bill.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Hi, who is this?
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Oh my God, this is Reba.
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What s up Reba, how s life?
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Oh my God, you know, I m chilling right now.
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How are you?
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I m doing, um, actually pretty okay, man.
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Is there anything in particular that you wanted to call in to talk about today?
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Um, I wanted to tell you that I ve been a big fan for a while and I m coming to your Albany show.
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Thank you.
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Oh, my Albany show.
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I didn t even realize tickets for that were on sale yet.
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That s cool.
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Nice.
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Yeah, like I know you re announcing the show on Friday, but my friend said to me, it s like, oh my God, like no way.
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And then I was like, nope, I m buying tickets like right now.
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Sweet, awesome.
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Yeah, I ve never been to upstate New York before, so I ll be there.
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What the fuck?
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I don t know.
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I hope the show will be better than what I just said to you.
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Well, thanks for coming.
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I m excited to see you in person, but I guess before that, um, you know, we could talk about, about, about, about anything, man, about anything.
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What s, what s on your brain today?
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Um, well, I have been contemplating moving out of the country.
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Um, so that s exciting.
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Kind of.
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I m also scared to think about it cause I ve lived in, let s say New York for all of my life.
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Um, where out of the country are you going to move?
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Uh, I was thinking about Poland.
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Where in Poland?
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Um, probably like Northeastern Poland.
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There s like a small town where my grandma lives and it s like kind of like a summer town, like a scenic town.
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Um, so it s like nice and all my family lives over there.
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Um,
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I lost my parents in 2021 and I m an only child and like no cousins around.
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So it s like kind of tough.
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Um, so I m like thinking about starting again, but I m not sure it s like I should, especially cause I m not like fluent in Polish and you know, I ve lived, I m like 25 so I ve lived here for, you know, all my life.
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So I don t know.
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I wanted to get some like advice.
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Um, so you re going to go to Poland just by yourself.
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Yeah, you know, and then my friends said that they would come visit me and they re planning on having kids, you know, they could get their dual citizenship or whatever.
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It could be the fun Polish aunt that takes them everywhere, you know, it could be fun.
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You know, I m I really I m being I m serious.
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This is like,
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You know, for right now, like, and I m making this about me, but only because I m relating it back is, uh, well, for right now, for right now, I m like, um, you know, if I m doing, I m doing this gecko thing, I m, um, whatever.
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I m like, I m, I m, I want to live in America.
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I want to live.
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in New York and do my thing and whatever whatever but if I weren t doing this a part of me does think like oh it would be I would just fucking move to like you know anywhere else maybe not move but like maybe go nomadic for a little bit I don t know I the point is I fantasize all the time about
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Moving to you know, Thailand or Japan or any anywhere else See everywhere and see the world, you know, it s just There s a lot of opportunities out there.
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But like it s scary leaving everything that you know, you know, do you have any money?
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Yeah, I have some money yeah, and I don t like things I could sell so like I would be like, okay like I think I could say I could be financially stable if I were to like
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liquidate a few things, you know, and then move.
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Now, why, why, I guess, I guess like why move to Poland?
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Like what do you want to do?
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Why don t you just go nomadic mode for a little bit?
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That could be fun.
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I know.
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Like I was thinking about like moving to Poland on like a TBD basis and then like visiting like other places and like, you know, like just seeing where life takes me from there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, the problem with that is that it is true, right?
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Like you re, you re going to get lonely.
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Like you do need to have a community and other people around.
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But, um, if you re smart, I truly believe there s ways to, to actually even weirdly enough, meet a whole lot more new people than you would have if you had stayed in Albany.
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Right.
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Right.
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Um, yeah.
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And you know, like you could also go do it for a year and then, um, if all else fails, you can just go back home.
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Right.
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I know.
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But like, you know, there is like, I have a great uncle and like two second cousins here.
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So it s not really like there isn t too much to go back for except for like my friends, but they re also looking to like move away.
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So like, I m not sure if there s really any like motivation for me to like
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Stay here long-term, but like if I were to go and then come back like I don t know what I d be coming back to if that makes sense Yeah, sure Well, then fuck it.
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I mean go go meet a what are what are go get a Polish husband that could be fun You know maybe maybe who knows?
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Um
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Actually, no, I ve heard cool things about Poland.
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I ve heard cool things about Poland.
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You know, it s beautiful.
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It s beautiful.
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There s a lot of different, like, it s really old there.
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There s a lot of old history.
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I went to Iceland this year, too, if you ever have the chance.
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I don t know if you ve been.
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It s super, super cool.
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There s a lot of volcanic activity going on around there, but it s super dope.
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nice nice you know i ve heard i ve heard good things about poland um yeah stop on your tour for 2024 you know yeah yeah i know warsaw s cool krakow s cool yeah what about
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Um, I don t know.
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I mean, do you have any?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So, oh wait.
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Okay.
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So, so, um, your parents passed away.
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I m very sorry to hear that.
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So you don t have any family, uh, in, in Albany.
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It sounds to me as though your friends are all like moving out.
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And so there s just no one even in you re like in super no man s land right now.
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Yeah.
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Cause you know, everyone s starting their life.
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We re in our like twenties, you know what I mean?
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So like everybody s doing their own thing.
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And I m looking to do my own thing But I m not sure if this is like step in the right direction or if I m gonna fuck myself financially by Moving somewhere far away and then not having a way back or a fallback plan.
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Well, what the hell?
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What else would you do with your life?
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That s the thing is a certain point.
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You re like I have at a certain point you have you don t even like have a better thing to do than to do the quote risky thing and
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Yeah, I mean like like talk me through that like do you what else would you do?
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Well right now I work is like a legal assistant and I got like a college degree in communication studies and stuff So like that s very broad and I could do a lot of different things Like I wanted to be like a graphic designer like a layout person But that s not where life took me for right now.
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So I m like trying to reroute and figure it out, but you know, I m just
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I m just not sure, you know?
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So, but I am quick on my feet and I think I could do a lot of different things.
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It s just a matter of like what would make me happy.
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And I feel like a lot of people struggle with what would make them happy, especially translating it to like a professional nine to five, you know?
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Nobody wants to work nine to five.
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Nobody wants to have a job.
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Go to Poland.
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I like that.
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Go to Poland.
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Go crazy.
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Go to Poland.
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Go to Poland.
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That s what I would do.
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Why not?
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I mean, um, I mean, I guess, I mean what you re, you either go to Poland or you stay in Albany.
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Yeah.
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And you know, I like work my way up for whatever and you know, make money and maybe find somebody, but maybe not, you know, like maybe I could just stay here and just
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If I could disintegrate, I have no idea.
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I don t know.
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I always think that taking a little, taking a teeny bit of risk is good.
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I mean, you sound like, I mean, if you have like a little bit of money, if you re not going to like go there and, you know, if you have like $200, don t go to Poland.
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No, no, yeah.
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No, it s a bit more than that.
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But yes, I do understand.
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The logic behind that, because... Okay.
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No, if you have the money to be like, alright, I m gonna be fine if I, you know, take a little risk, I think I would go for it.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Alright, well, thank you for the advice, Geck.
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I really appreciate it.
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Hey, you know where you could go?
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You could go to, uh... Uh...
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You could go to Tasmania in Australia.
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That s the incest capital of Australia.
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Did you know that?
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I learned that while I was there.
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Wow.
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No, I had no idea.
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Huh.
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That s a cool one.
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Yeah.
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That was a really random thing to say, but I was like, I got to say a random thing at the end of this call.
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I m trying to do that more.
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Um, is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
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Um, I had a question for you actually.
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Yeah, please.
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Uh, where do you get your smooth jazz from?
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Oh, uh, yes.
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Uh, YouTube.
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Just YouTube.
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Okay.
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Just YouTube.
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All right.
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I like it.
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I like it.
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Thank you.
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I m a big fan.
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Thank you.
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Um, I will see you at, don t move to Poland before March.
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No, no.
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It s a, yeah, it s in April, so I ll definitely be here.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Oh yes, it is in April.
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Great.
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Great.
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Awesome.
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I will see you in, uh, in Albany.
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All right.
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Take care, Geck.
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Thanks for taking my call.
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Have a good night.
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Thank you.
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Bye GLHF Reba