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Here s a question for you, because I have a few of my own personal thing, but in the studio with a sketch, what were the ones that just killed the hardest or made you laugh the hardest?
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And it s probably dozens of them, but I have one in mind that I was in that I didn t write, but it went to a level of laughter and involved an animal.
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Massive Head Wound Harry.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because an animal, you know.
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A dog.
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Licked a thing.
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Bedlam.
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Also the headline of it, Massive Head Wound Harry.
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You gotta go, that s an odd sitcom.
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You know, I thought that was Jack Handy, because it had such an odd title, but I think it was, was it Schneider s that he wrote?
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I think it was Schneider and probably a few other people helped, but I think Robbie.
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Maybe they gang banged it.
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Franken too.
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But that was just one of those things that they said between dress and air,
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like Robert asked the handler of the dog, well, what would make him really voracious?
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So they didn t feed him, he was hungry, and then put more stuff on my prosthetic head.
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So the dog went crazy, and because I was trained by you, I didn t want to be about the prosthesis coming off, so I went like that and just held it, but it was such a long battle between me and the dog that.
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And you kept in it.
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Yeah, I stayed in it.
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I didn t want it to be about that.
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And you didn t milk it.
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No, and I think that s the discipline of it.
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you know, you transcended, you re still playing.
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Yeah, you don t want, when it s killing that hard, it was like Pepper Boy with Sandler, and that was killing so hard on air.
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It just came out, and Sandler and I were just in a rhythm together, and then Farley had one line, and on the dress show, it s like, whoa, Pepper Boy!
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So then the air show, and of course, we re coming around like a pepper or whatever, and Farley s like, well, thank you, Pepper Boy!
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But ten times louder than I just said it.
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Sandler turns purple, is turning away from the camera to me, and I whisper, I keep the Italian accent, and I go, don t break.
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Oh, yeah.
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And he didn t break, because I thought the sketch was going so good that I didn t want it to break.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If it s not going good, okay, it can break, but not if it s gonna- But also, a sketch like Canteen Boy with Alec- Oh, yeah.
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Surrounded by that sleeping bag.
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I wouldn t get too far these days.
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Oh, my God.
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Even back then, it was resistance.
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Oh, yeah, totally.
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So when you get, obviously, it gets,
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it s probably still exciting.
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Would you ever wanna stop?
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Or if Dana and I can t take over, what do we do?
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I think there s times when it s so frustrating and so whatever that you think.
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But when the warmup is over,
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And it s just, you re hearing those last two songs, just the band, and you know those songs, because they don t change much.
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And then you start to realize you re kind of excited.
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And that s never changed for me.
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No, I don t.
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I think you just, you re like anyone who s driven, you take the slings and arrows.
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But I didn t really understand what you did until I guest hosted, and was just kind of, you hang out with you kind of more.
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Yeah.
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And even if you re going out to dinner or whatever, you re constantly producing, and constantly thinking, and suggesting, and you re really bleeding over every show emotionally.
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So how do you decompress?
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I mean, are you... It s like... Well, I think it s different when you have kids.
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Because that they take the... You go to the party, you come back, and then somebody s jumping on your chest and you can still taste the beer, and... But they re the priority and you re not, and you get through that period.
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I think
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for me, and particularly in the pandemic, and for the whole of the 16th election and afterwards, you sort of went, oh, people are counting on us.
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talking about it and being there.
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And that was a huge thing.
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And when we did those at-home shows in the pandemic, the idea that... And it always... It s just the DNA of the show, we show up.
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So you feel you with 9-11 or whatever that you have to... And when...
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When Sandy Hook happened, you know, and McCartney was on the show, and Marty Short.
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And it happened on the Friday.
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That s the toughest.
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And I go, we don t have to do that.
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I don t know why we have to do that.
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And then Friday night, you can t not do it.
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You can t somehow figure it out.
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There was a choir, a boys  choir.
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Oh, yes.
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That was on for Wonderful Christmas Time with McCarty, which was... I remember that sketch.
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Yeah.
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Yes, that was hysterical.
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And so Marty showed up.
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Marty Short.
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You can t sing!
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Is this where Paul talked about this?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And we were...
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It also happened to be the Friday night that they were shooting the last scene of 30 Rock.
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Alec on a boat down South Street Seaport, and I promised Tina and Robert and Alec that I d be there for that.
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So I m driving down the West Side Highway now, and I m still trying to figure out, and
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what I m gonna do, because we don t have an opening. 
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And Paul had said, McCartney had said, I can sing, but I thought, it s kids, you just can t do any show business.
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Do you know what I mean?
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You could do Let It Be, whatever, but it would be somehow wrong.
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And I called Lindsay and said, will you call the choir master and see if he s got a chart on
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On Silent Night, and she come back, she said, they do, and they have the choir, yeah.
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So it became like, we re gonna just do that.
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I knew Phil Himes, where he put the candles.
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A great lighting designer.
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Yeah, and it was like, so they do it, and then they say live from New York, and it did not work at dress.
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And I went... Okay, now this is where you have to... And Marty told me the story because he was watching me.
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And he said, you were so puzzling with it while you were giving notes, like, what is it?
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And then it dipped black.
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just dip the black, that ends, and then the kids being happy and singing live for New York was completely understandable and forgivable.
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It was, you couldn t bleed the one into the other.
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And so it was like, oh, and it worked.
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And you kind of go, you don t know, but you re like, when you re mixing tragedy in, you need jokes, but also it just is, you re supposed to do it.
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And finding that line, you know.
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Paul McCartney.
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I thank you for introducing us in 1986.
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And he s, you know, I think he doesn t get credit for being a rocker.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I think the cliche was that John was, and he was, you know, sentimental.
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Soft, yeah.
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But half the rock, you know, JoJo, that s Paul.
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Yeah, and Helter Skelter.
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Yeah, Helter Skelter.
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But... I think that he suffers from a good problem in a way, too many great songs.
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Yeah.
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People hear Let It Be and Hey Jude.
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They don t hear Here, There, and Everywhere, and She s Leaving Home.
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He has so many melodies that you can t even remind people.
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Yeah, and when people criticize him, because I, you know... You re very good friends.
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Yeah.
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I go, no, he s Mozart.
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Unbelievable.
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Just stop it.
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where it s great melodies, that s who he is.
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And someday you ll get a perspective on it, but it s really, and I saw his last concert at the Meadowlands.
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And what was interesting, it was like three hours.
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And, you know, I mean, things you thought you would see for sure weren t in the show.
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It was really well thought out and fresh and brilliant.
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And about,
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10, 15 minutes before it ended, it started to rain.
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And this is at the Meadowlands.
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No one moved.
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You know, everybody just sat there.
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Sort of a once in a lifetime.
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And it was the last time he was gonna perform, and in America anyway.
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And it was just magical.
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And for me, it was, I mean, love me do s, I m a freshman.
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Yes.
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Do you know what I mean?
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So that s the point of entry.
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And I think it s all, you know, in the Stones I saw in London this summer too, just phenomenal.
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Love them, yeah.
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And it s just that thing of their,
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you want them to be that.
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You don t need them to... And if Sinatra was singing... Yeah, you want to hear Summer Wind.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But I do think they d get back the documentary kind of couch Paul in a better light.
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I think there s a little bit more understanding because he could sing all the
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harmonies, he could play all their instruments, and he could write songs.
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So it makes sense, as you might say, fingerprints would be, he d be collaborating with Ringo, and I used to do that as a joke impression.
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So the guy goes in there and he goes, he s walking along, and then he s doing it and get back to George Harrison.
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And so the boy genius kind of thing, and Lennon was off on his own journey at that point.
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And also,
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that in the concert, now, Peter Jackson gave him a clip so he could sing with Lennon.
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And so, you realize how young Lennon was?
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I know, he s just 28.
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I know.
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And you just go, oh, it s heartbreaking.
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Yeah.
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And Paul was... When I was watching on the rooftop, when John was doing his song, Don t Let Me Down, Paul is so engaged.
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not cynical at all, and he s doing this incredible baseline, and they re smiling and laughing.
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And for all of us romantically, because of what they meant to us, we want John and Paul.
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And for Paul, his favorite part of the thing was them joking around and laughing, because that s what he wants.
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Yeah, he said that s how we want to be remembered.
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But time heals all wounds.
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Well, don t you have that with the cast?
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That you were with?
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A thousand percent.
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We could run into anybody of our time.
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Also Sandler s in the middle of it, churning them out.
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Do you know what I mean?
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And it s always, and you just go, Rob Schneider s living on a couch there, you know?
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Suddenly he gets into, you know, he gets a movie.
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Yeah, Rob talked about them getting famous, and then all of a sudden we had girlfriends, you know?
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And there was something, or who thought of Cantori, the one where I had Victoria s Legs over my- Oh, Cantori was a great movie.
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Who really wrote that?
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But you re right, it is like being in the Marines or something, not literally, no, don t send me letters.
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But yeah, you see a castmate, even running into Tracy Morgan, he goes, hey alum, there s a esprit de corps.
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I also think, I think Bill Murray said it once, you just can t explain what it s like being out there looking into the eyes of somebody else who s in that same scene that isn t, it s maybe not working.
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Or maybe it s working way, way better.
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Or working way better than you thought.
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The sparkle, just that contact of being in that heightened reality with that level of intensity, you can t really explain.
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And I m sure pro athletes have that.
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I think it s, you know, dancers have it.
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Which is another great thing about the show, is that you started having non-performers host the show.
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I guess you had pro-athletes in the 70s, but that s a reality show in itself.
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If the pro-athlete is bombing or killing, it s just a pro, you know, Michael Jordan s gonna try to be a sketch player.
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Frank Tarkenton.
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Yeah, you had him.
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But also I had Ralph Nader.
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I had a lot of people that I just admired.
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And so Ralph Nader, for his entrance, he was getting off the elevator on eight.
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And I said,
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I think if you re eating a hot dog, that will help.
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Because he was so, he said, but I don t eat hot dogs.
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I know, I know, that s why I think it ll work, because it s being sort of startling.
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The ultimate straight man.
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And he got the laugh, and it was like.
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He lit up.
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It s exciting, oh, it s ridiculous.
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They compete, I mean, Peyton Manning, I mean, they give each other, they re like.
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You know Russell, and he, you know, it was.
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Oh, he had one.
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Yeah, he was fantastic.
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I was a huge fan, but it was just like, you could call people and they d say, okay.
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Yeah, I didn t even know Bill Russell.
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You didn t know who watched the show, because we were mostly in 8-H.
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And then you go, oh, they re watching.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And Wayne Gretzky was so charming.
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I had, Broderick Crawford was in some FBI movie.
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Oh, yeah, the Broderick Crawford?
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And I go, I called him in and I said, he was living in Ohio, and I called him and I said, we re doing this show, and his co-host said, yeah, I think I know it, yeah.
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So you d have to be here on the Monday and that, you know, this, and I m trying to reassure a man who does not need to be reassured.
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And he said, all right, send me the ticket.
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Send me the ticket for the plane ticket?
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An airplane.
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An airplane.
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And it s just, what I m getting at is people just volunteered to come from... Robert Mitchum, Charlton Heston.
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Robert Mitchum had one of my favorite monologue lines about live, and it s so dangerous, and you don t know what could go wrong.
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And he said, and I thought, what s the worst that could happen?
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I won t get that 119th movie.
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And he landed it perfect.
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And he was so old school.
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He had a half gallon of Jack Daniels in the dressing room.
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He s an old fashioned movie star.
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Yeah.
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Incredible to be around.
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Walken had that too.
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Walken is magic.
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Yeah.
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Walken, you know, with Cowbell, I think I was just there doing a guest shot and that thing
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hearing Walken come out.
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I need more cowbell.
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I mean, it was so... The cast... I mean, I know that Will had done it before, but once you got Walken and then Will, that s why it s just iconic.
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Yeah, no.
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And also, The Continental, which he used to do, was an actual show that he would see.
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It was a local
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local New York 15-minute show where this guy was on, and he wanted to do it.
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So he knew it perfectly.
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God, he was good at that.
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And that single camera part.
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Yeah, with like a white glove on.
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Do you remember Bear Suits Are Funny and Bears As Well?
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Is that a fake story?
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Well, it was Christopher Walken at the meeting, and we all went around pitching him, and he s kind of staring up being Christopher Walken, and then you said, Chris.
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And I remember him saying this in specific, if you remember,
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He just said non-sequitur, bear suits are funny and bears as well.
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Bear suits are funny and then he thought and bears as well.
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I just thought that was the greatest non-sequitur.
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And Lauren probably goes, write it up.
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Write it up, let s put you in a bear suit.
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But that was the thrill of being around him.
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He was such a special person.
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Yeah, there were a lot of people that you
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were either surprised or couldn t wait to meet or whatever.
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And John Goodman could do no wrong, Alec Baldwin.
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My third show was Alec s first show, and that was the Green Hilly, and it was, he did the mimic.
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He did all these.
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One of the things that I love, but this is a Wayne s World thing, which you ll remember.
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He was doing Green Hilly.
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Green Hilly, I remember Green Hilly.
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You guys were in the conference room waiting to see me about something.
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And Franken was there waiting.
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And I can t remember what I was doing, but Franken said out loud, can you imagine what it d be like if we had a really good looking guy?
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Oh, I remember this one, oh boy.
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Yeah, that would sound cool.
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And both Dana and Mike were like, kind of looked at each other.
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Well, I thought Mike was more insane, but maybe I was too.
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I mean, I didn t have any
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I have a chin, I can t be, I have a limit on how good looking I can be without a chin.
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Now I ve got this, the lady s liking it.
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No, he got up for an Emmy for that first show.
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Alec was kidding, every sketch, and it was, he came out of Humphrey in October, and I was just like, I went into the meeting going, oh, this guy s a movie star.
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Like, I was new.
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Oh, yeah, and I remember, did I interrupt you, sir, just then?
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Victoria would say, the second time Alec came in, non sequitur, Victoria, like on a Tuesday,
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I m not gonna do it again.
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Not this week.
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I m not gonna do it. 
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And I go, what aren t you gonna do?
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I m not gonna fall in love with him.
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I m not gonna fall in love with him.
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And then by Friday, I fell in love with him.
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Yeah, get behind me.
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But he has these eyes and, you know, he s just- He was a stud, yeah.
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But there was so many home run hitters on that, when I got there and all the writing and the Smigles and Handys, and we talk about it all the time, but it was just hard to, Lauren actually hung in there with me, because it took a while to get my footing.
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I was trying to write and trying to write for you.
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It s hard to write for other people.
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I was just a standup, so it s just to get it going and then got a little Hollywood minute, then got some stuff and just,
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Thank God I got in there, because it took me longer than most.
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Yeah, because one, he was in there too.
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So you were gonna get those parts.
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Believe me, let s go through my diary, I ll show you.
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David would sit behind me, and Lorimer would say, David s on deck.
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David?
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Ready?
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Dana looks tired.
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You re like, no, no.
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I d look back.
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I ve been reading something from Huxleys.
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David s ready whenever you re ready to go.
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David, you were funny the first, yeah, I bet you, truly.
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Thank you.
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There was never a moment where I didn t think it was gonna work.
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Yeah, thank you.
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I m often wrong, but that time I was.
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Have you seen cast members?
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I mean, there s so many that audition.
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I mean, you couldn t say, I guess, if you felt like someone you missed on or someone, I m sure there s some that just obviously get famous later.
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I think what happens is if there s no slot
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Do you know what I mean?
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If somebody does kind of what you do, then it s really hard.
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Actually, I think Nick Kroll, we talked to him and he auditioned and he was the first one that made sense to me where he goes, they had me because they had every move I do.
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And there s just, I m an extra.
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So I m an extra guy.
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Well, he looked at Adam Sandberg and Bill Hader and he locked him off and he goes, and we talked about this, it wasn t personal.
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It was just those.
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Three years earlier, it would have worked three years later, but he was like, even he knew that guy.
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I mean, really, really funny.
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So that s just the way it is there.
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And when we re auditioning, we don t think that, we re just saying, oh, we want to be on.
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And
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when Rob and I came on, kind of writer, performers, or maybe just writers.
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I mean, no one tells anybody anything.
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So Bernie just said, just go there.
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And also Rob was doing, making copies.
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Oh yeah.
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And somehow that just caught on and you don t know why it catches on, but then.
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You run it into the ground.
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And then we run it into the ground.
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It s just a catchphrase.
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The jealousy hit an all time high when Sting came on looking like a stud, and then we re stinging like a ding dong.
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And then he go, you want to be in cop machine?
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He s like, yeah.
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I m like, God damn.
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So it just, you have to sit on sidelines and go, good job.
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And you go.
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What am I doing here?
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It s tough.
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Making copies.
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Yeah, but you know what?
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And you can t argue it, it s funny, it was original.
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Yeah.
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No, no, Rob has a musical talent.
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Rob is a great writer too.
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He s great.
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He s musical and he can write.
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It was so fun to be around these movie stars that are nervous and scared about going into- Or musicians.
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Or Sting, I remember we were doing the elevator sketch and we re in between, he goes, how s my hair?
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How s my hair?
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He s asking me.
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And they re really vulnerable.
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And I told Michael Jordan, if you space out, just read it off the card.
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It s a very fascinating part of this whole- They re just flailing.
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They don t know what to do.
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They re scared.
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And if you get to talk to them, they don t know that we re lowly writers.
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They re like, what do I do here?
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And I m like, are you talking to me?
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I don t know what the fuck s going on.
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Jeremy Irons.
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I remember his show.
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It was Saturday, but the Oscars were the Sunday, and he was nominated for Best Actor.
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Oh, wow.
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And I knew him from a play he d done with Mike Nichols, and he was a great actor, obviously.
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And they were doing a Sherlock Holmes sketch.
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I won t name the writer, but they were in there teaching him an English accent.
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You know, like, no, no, it s more this.
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And you just go, you know, and you just go, well, you know, he s, I mean, he wasn t the best actor, but you just go, are you thinking, but the passion and blindness of comedy writers.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Of like, no, you don t get it.
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It s like this.
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And you go, and so confident, but performers have witnessed and felt death.
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Yes.
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So they never are confident because they actually know the job.
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But writers are like, no.
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Come on.
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And I remember George Meyer when he was on the show and he was- Showdying.
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And he would just, you d sort of see himself throwing his body against the wall at dress rehearsal when someone blew a line.
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And that s why animation works better.
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You know, because they do exactly what they re told.
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But performers can either give you that exhilaration of like they took it off the paper and now it s this other thing that will always be that, as opposed to you ve got to laugh at the end of the line, you know.
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I think I was doing a courtroom thing as Johnny Carson, as Johnny Cochran or something, and Smigel had written it, and he s putting all these birds and things on me.
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And it s five, four, three, and it s a cockatoo.
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I go, Robert, enough!
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I gotta see this thing!
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Robert is relentless that way, which we love him for.
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Yeah, and he wants to be performing.
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Oh, he loves to perform, yeah.
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But we had some great collaborations together.
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He was good with rhythms and... Yeah.
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So this new season... Uh-huh.
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I m excited.
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How is your... I mean, you re pulling up your socks, you re feeling good, you re just eyes wide open?
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I think we... It was...
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you know, we ended the season with goodbyes, you know, particularly Kate and maybe... Actually said it, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And Pete.
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And so dealing with that, it just had that valedictory thing, which we did with Kristen Wiig as well.
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We ve done it a bunch of times.
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Yeah.
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And you just slipped out of the dead of night.
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I bring it on Bernie.
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You gotta go now, kid, or you ll never go.
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No, I don t know why I did that.
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You know, a lot of people on this, just anecdotally, without naming names, kind of like go, why did I leave?
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Because some of them left voluntarily.
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And why was I so angry?
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And what was I thinking?
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And for me personally, I had so many inputs coming at me.
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I got too hot, too big.
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It s like Mickey Rooney in the Twilight Zone because of Wayne s world and all the political stuff.
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So I was sort of lost, but yeah.
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But I was envious and thought it was sweet
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And people got a little send-off, it s sweet.
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Yeah, and also I think there s something about... It can t be everything, the show.
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And it is for so long, and then you... But if you re ever gonna leave, you don t... And so... Yeah, you have to leave at some point.
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Yeah, but it s also that you re never gonna feel that intensity
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of that, because it s its own sport.
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Do you know what I mean?
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And you re involved in it.
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It s never that hard.
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Yeah.
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I went to a sitcom and it was great people, great actors, and I go, this is just not the same.
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It s just not as tough.
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And people writing for me, and I go, this is unbelievable.
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And also it s all, SNL is all risk, you know?
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Like there s no safety net and there s also no guarantee that it s gonna work on air.
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Or you re gonna be on, like you re walking through the hallway and it s like 20 to one and they go, and you re in your outfit and they go, gap girls is cut.
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You can t be on the air?
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And you re in the dress.
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I already made it this far.
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Go back to your rooms immediately.
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Yeah, anything that s cut on it, that s the tough, because that s again, there s no guarantees.
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Now we tend to play some of those.
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Oh yeah, I guess you guys play dress or you can play... Well, doesn t Saturday Night Live, I think I read this, gets like, I don t know, almost two billion YouTube views, isn t it?
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Number one... The YouTube foreign is huge.
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Yeah, it must be just huge.
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Oh, wow.
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Lewis Hamilton, the race car driver, was at a party last season.
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And he talked to me, he said, well, I grew up watching the show.
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And I go, you re in England, how do you watch the show?
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You forget that it s all online and people.
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And then I think when they see the contemporary stuff, then they go back and look at the old stuff.
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And there was a period about 15 years ago when writers coming in who had not been alive for the first five or 10 years, we had a server where they could just go on.
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So sometimes people would watch two or three shows on Tuesday night before they started.
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But I ll use an example.
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I ll say, well, I think we did that with Bill Murray.
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And then now I look out into a room of like, OK.
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All right, I m talking about 45 years ago like so it s a Peacock probably has all the old ones.
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Maybe it s all everyone has it on their laptop.
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I mean every
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Every sketch, right?
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Because when I was there meeting John Mulaney and Bill Hader, I m like, oh, what do you guys want to do?
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They go, we like Mickey Rooney.
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When I did Mickey Rooney, you re like, really?
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And they brought it up immediately.
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And Bill, you know, when I ve talked to Bill
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somewhat seriously about his time there.
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He was frightened.
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He talked about the panic attacks.
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Yeah, and I go, it s so interesting because I m pretty good at reading that stuff, but he was so good on air and so original.
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I mean, he auditioned with Vincent Price.
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Yes.
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Who does that?
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Yeah.
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And James Mason.
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Now, they were in my childhood.
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I don t know how we d get it.
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And things got to Oklahoma later, but it was just so original and right away.
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Do you know what I mean?
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And Vinnie Baderczy and all of that stuff.
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And you go, it s such an original
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Comedy voice.
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We know what else he can do, but he was truly funny.
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So good to have a voice on there like that.
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Oh, yeah, his rhythms.
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And the Vincent Price thing, it didn t even matter if you knew Vincent Price, just that his party s being ruined and he s being very... Trying to pull it together.
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Well, okay, thank you.
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And it was Toadie Fields.
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I don t know who was coming to the room.
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Toadie Fields.
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Toadie Fields.
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But he said he was just almost in tears in the bathroom.
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Yeah.
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On 8-H.
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Yeah.
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You could, if anyone wanted to see church chat, my hand was drenched in sweat.
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Yeah.
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There s a lot of controlling.
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Of course.
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Adrenal.
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And you don t know.
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Five seconds before, you still don t know whether it s gonna work or whether, but there is that thing of like it brings out the best in you.
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And when you win,
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you really can feel it.
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Well, you can t.
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There s nothing like the first big laugh to relax you.
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You re just not relaxed.
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And the very first time I said, well, isn t that special?
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I got such a big laugh.
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I finally went, ah.
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But also, there s a period
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in which they like, you probably have three or four years where they re just gonna laugh at whatever you do, because they think you know more than they do.
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And they re just so excited to see you.
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And that s been happening for the last 10 years or so.
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You just kind of feel in the room.
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And I m going, I don t think that s gonna play.
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And they go, no, of course it s gonna play.
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It s these guys.
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It s those people doing it.
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There was once when we were in the Monday meeting and I thought, I don t know if we had like a dry spell, but I was in the Monday meeting and the host, who shall remain nameless, but I go, I think Mike and Dana are more famous than the host.
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And you know, the cast gets so big sometimes like that.
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And they re so well known.
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And we always, I mean, you always have
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to this day, huge hosts and great people that come in from all areas.
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And Kim Kardashian did a great job and that was sort of out of the blue.
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And just, that s great that you keep doing that.
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And something s working there where A, they all want to do it still and get that one thing because they hear about it.
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And they all walk away going, it went too fast and it was too great.
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And if I do it again, I know what I m doing this time.
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But also hosting.
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Everybody, there s 150 people, they re all there to make you look good.
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So you re the center of it, and it s just a different experience.
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Unless you re Steven Seagal, you believe that.
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Steven Seagal, my favorite host.
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So one day, you guys started, which was kind of interesting, having the women play men, because that wasn t happening.
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And that just sort of happened organically, and Kate McGinnon did a lot of men,
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Was that just sort of happened?
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You went with it?
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It s just a new flavor?
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I mean, if you re me, you re always going to go with the funniest take.
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So gender isn t the issue.
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It s just like, who s got that voice?
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Well, Cade had the audience in the palm of her hand and she was so great.
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I think Melissa McCarthy played Sean Spicer.
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Yeah, yeah.
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She played Sean Spicer.
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Trump was furious about it from what I know.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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That s not good.
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Because it s like they re having a woman play you.
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I think at some point he liked what Alec was doing.
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He did?
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No, I think at the beginning, maybe.
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The first five seconds?
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Yeah.
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Well, it was just unique because we knew that Alec obviously didn t favor his politics and then he started to not like Alec and it was a public thing.
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And before it was sort of hidden if Daryl Hammond s doing Al Gore, no one really knows his politics or whatever.
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So that was a new kind of flavor as well.
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Yeah, and also we did things that we wouldn t do now, you know, with John Goodman playing Linda Tripp or whatever, you know, like, so it was just... Yeah.
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You know, and I think you sort of... Standards and boundaries change.
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And, you know, things that you could do, you know.
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Franken did a... Franken always stretched the envelope.
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A piece, yeah, I think it was with Garrett Morris and Julian Bond.
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And it was about, it was a black talk show and it had a line about,
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that light-skinned black people are smarter than dark-skinned.
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Oh, God.
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This is Franken.
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Hello, Franken.
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Very hello.
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But what I m getting at is we could then, there was no malice in it.
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It was just like that thing of what can t you say.
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Right, in a regular TV world.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I like when anyone gained seven pounds the next week Farley was playing them.
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That was like, his job was like, it was always brutal.
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I used to say this thing about when you guys were filming, cause you were up in Toronto and I was down there doing the show and then I d come up and whatever, but I d say, and I d see dailies and you, your way of handling stress was, you know, you d have a banana and whatever and it d be like that.
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And Farley s would just be to continue, you d lose weight and he d gain weight.
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But the weight in the frame stayed the same.
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It was always a constant.
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It was always balanced out.
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It always looked normal.
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Yeah, oh yeah.
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We d go back and forth from Toronto with Eric Newman on the flight with us.
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Yes.
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Where s his... Are you gonna ever write a book, Lorne?
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Because Meghan Markle did.
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No.
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I think the hard part is... You can t tell the truth or you don t want to bury people.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Naming names is tough.
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And also I think you go, then when you get to be married, did that actually happen?
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Do you know what I mean?
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You have to cross-check yourself, too.
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Well, it s just your memory.
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I have a good memory.
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It s not bad.
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Incredible.
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It s just like, well, what?
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Did that actually happen to somebody?
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100%, because Dana and I even would tell stories and we would disagree.
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And I m like, God, you re right.
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And I go, I remembered it this whole time a certain way and it was not.
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And it s just something that happens like that.
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So you just don t know.
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And that s why they do all that stuff in murder trials.
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It s like the people swear they saw this person leave and no, they didn t.
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And you just go, and yeah.
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they execute you.
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And you go, no way, we found, we figured it out.
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And when it comes to taking credit, I think it s a normal human thing to kind of trend your memory towards favoring yourself a little bit, but you want to cross-check it with other people.
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Am I remembering this right?
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Like, was there ever a horse on the show or a horse
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Yeah.
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On 8H.
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Alive?
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah, lots of horses.
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Because during dinner, I was over in my cubicle arranging things, and I saw Keith Richard walking by himself, walking up to the horse, and he held the horse s head in his hand.
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He said, look at you, you re a fucking horse.
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I swear to God, that s what he said.
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And then he just went back to his dressing room.
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He just meandered back.
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But I was thinking, did I remember that correctly?
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There was a horse, lots of horses.
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No, the first time we did it was when Mr. Ed died.
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And it was a news story, and Chevy could do Mr. Ed s voice.
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Wilbur.
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Yeah, exactly, Wilbur.
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Yeah, Wilbur.
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And we got the horse in the studio, and then he s interviewing the horse in the last interview, and he d be doing both parts.
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So when the horse was talking to Chevy, yeah.
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Musta kill.
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Horses, giraffes, we had- Monkeys.
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We had a camel about four years ago, no, maybe longer now, and it got off.
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Every camel works at Christmas.
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It s not like you get hold of a camel.
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It s a whole work.
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The manger thing.
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So there was one that was, they lied about how big it was.
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Kenny Amon was like, wow.
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They re scary.
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Kenny Amon, hey David.
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So he came off the elevator,
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And then the hump... You can call it a hump, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think so.
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The hump got stuck in the tiles of the ceiling.
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Because it was so tall.
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Yeah.
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So it was just stuck.
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There was no getting it there, and then we re going... But we re on the air, we have to get... So I think they got a donkey, made it look like a camel,
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It was like that kind of thing.
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It s an amazing show.
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Did Bill Murray punch Chevy, or is that a fake story from the old days?
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They got into a fight.
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And John, I think, provoked it a little bit.
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I love John.
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It was probably my mistake, because I was bringing Chevy back to host, but it was a season and a half after he left.
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And which has made sense.
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The musical guest on that show was the very young Billy Joel.
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Ah, I love it.
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And they got into a skirmish just in front... In front of the doors.
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By the page desk, yeah.
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By the page desk, yeah.
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And then
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Chevy had to come out and do the monologue.
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Wow, wow.
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So it was like- Both six foot four, basically.
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And it was just a, the show was sort of white hot and it was, John always felt in Lemmings, which is the time they d worked together before the show, John was the star and Chevy was not.
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And so, and was like sort of third building.
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And Chris, you know,
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is involved in that show too, Chris Guest, and you re gonna go, so there was already like, this is how we see you, and then Chevy exploded.
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But Chevy was such a monster.
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Also, because he said his name, you know, on update.
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Right, I m Chevy Chase, and you re not, yeah.
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Great man.
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Yeah, yeah, well, and he s a big dude, great looking dude.
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Movie star by then, right?
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Come back after i was tell me when i m running chipper and have chevy on the podcast i try to compliment him but sometimes he doesn t know a little but i tell people you wanna know how great he was is as a film actor look at caddyshack.
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Where bill murray is in his full prime groundsman character with the mouth off the side and they re together going through this scene and chevy does his.
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Buster Keaton, or whatever you want to call how still his face was, and then his physicality.
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It s like a master class in comic film acting.
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He gets beat up a lot.
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And people forget what a great movie actor and star, you know, I mean, just.
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It s a thing.
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It was like such a huge thing.
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Yeah.
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you know, by the end of the first season.
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And it was like way too much to handle.
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And it became particularly hard for he and I because we wrote together.
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And so we were very close.
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And so it was…
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Heading in two different directions.
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And then he became a movie star.
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Sure he d want to come back.
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But then saying, ever since he kind of, even when he would come to host, he d say, don t leave too soon.
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He felt, he wished he d done more seasons because that was that point.
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It was a, yeah.
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Emotionally, he wasn t ready to leave.
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And also he was,
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that other thing, really proud of what we d done with the show.
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Then he had to see it still be huge and grow with the Blues Brothers and Lorraine.
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Listen, at the end of the first season, I won three Emmy Awards, one for Lily Tomlin and Richard Pryor, a thing I d done the year before.
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Nice.
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Richard Pryor, who I d worked with, we had dinner at Dantana s, so you know we were feeling pretty good about ourselves.
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And he was offered a three-picture deal at Universal, and he said, this is what we wanted.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Comedians did not get movies.
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Right.
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And I thought, I ve just been through my championship season, it s not going to, I wrote everything I ever wanted to write all, you know, at least twice in that season.
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So it was like, oh, you could get off stage now and, you know.
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Wow.
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And I went, I can t do that, everybody else has to stay for five years, you know, and stuff.
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But I think that if you d said to me then that,
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I would be still doing it, and then I would have found so many other things that were there that I didn t know at the beginning, not part of the original design or whatever.
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Things that it grew into or that it does, or that its influence would be just as strong politically as it is in music or whatever.
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And keep discovering super talented people and being launched from your show to have careers.
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Also, they kind of find us now.
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Yeah.
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In the seventies, you had to go out and recruit, but I think people... Yeah, sure.
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I mean, I liked staying alive because there was a time there, like obviously when you re on, if you missed the show, you had to get the rerun six months later.
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And if you missed that, you had to catch... It was luckily on the best of in the summer.
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But there was a time there when people hadn t seen some of the old ones.
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And then it was on the E!
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Channel, and then now you can see it all.
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So it s more people know.
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It s interesting, it s like Emma Stone grew up on Best of Gilderadner.
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Wow.
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And those sort of best of, you know, like all those best of, you re in them, I mean, but we stopped doing them because the VCR thing.
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No, it wasn t really.
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Yeah, there s other ways to do it.
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And they re all on YouTube, pretty much.
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But people wore those out.
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I think Kate McKinnon had one of those.
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One of the last ones, probably.
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Oh, Best Of, yeah.
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They had like three movies.
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Yeah.
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Well, Lauren, we ll take a 20-minute break.
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And start the podcast.
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We just want to thank you for doing this.
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And you know we didn t talk about anybody dying.
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We didn t.
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There was a lot.
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Do you want to?
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No.
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No, I m good.
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I mean, but we were there for a lot of them.
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A lot of big ones, yeah.
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Two of my bandmates, for sure.
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And I was just at Catalina Island, and that s where Phil s ashes are.
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Which one?
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Remember John at the memorial?
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John Lovitz?
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Yeah.
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Kind of.
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What d he do?
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He just talked about Phil.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, well.
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But they couldn t have been closer.
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Yeah.
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And they couldn t, you know, that sketch, which was a growling sketch that we finally did,
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Yeah.
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What s the word on the street?
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What s the word on the street?
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They were doing the gangster thing so much before we premiered with the first show.
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Yeah.
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I remember Dynamite on its own.
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Did they do anything else?
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It was like, how are you doing?
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Now, what are you?
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What are they saying?
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What do you mean, what are they saying?
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They just did it spastically.
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Love it.
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It s still so funny.
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I see him all the time.
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And in Three Amigos, I did it with them.
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That was that scene, yeah.
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That s right.
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Yeah, but John is, yeah, he s supernaturally funny.
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Do you see him?
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Do you see John?
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I do see John, yeah.
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I talk to him a lot.
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He s on the road or he s at a hotel with Jerry, his dog, Jerry Bruckheimer.
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And you know, he s just, there s only one John.
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He still is funny at dinner.
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So you re talking to Lord.
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One of the most naturally funny people.
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He is really.
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Where did that come from?
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People like, when they see him, they all know him.
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He looks exactly the same.
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They all come up.
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And he came back to play somebody like three, four years ago, had a cold opening, and he destroyed a dress.
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And I said, John, you ve got to make sure you re on your mark before you go.
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You don t like that.
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And he was just off camera.
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So the live audience was going nuts.
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Oh, heartbreaking.
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Because it s still all natural.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Right.
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So that s the moment he felt to do it, as opposed to three, two, one, get to my spot, and then do it?
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Yeah.
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Like Hartman would have been on camera for sure.
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Who?
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Hartman.
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Hartman.
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Oh, Phil was, I mean, his binder was so meticulous, his office meticulous.
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He was in so many sketches.
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And then he would just in between takes or when we re rehearsing, he would just be looking at Evan Rood.
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I couldn t believe he d look at something else.
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He d look at boats and his plane.
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He was a renaissance person.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Smart.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Well, thanks, buddy.
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It s been great getting to know you guys.
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Yes, it s nice to meet you.
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I really feel like I know you now.
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Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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No, thank you for doing this, Lorne.
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Goodbye.
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Hey, what s up, flies?
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What s up, fleas?
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What s up, people that listen?
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We want to hear from you and your dumb questions.
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Questions, ask us anything.
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Anything you want.
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You can email us at flyonthewallatcadence13.com.
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We have a question here.
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Great.
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Who will take over for Lorne?
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How will the show adjust and move forward?
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75 people asked this question.
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Yeah, 75 plus.
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From the same email.
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This is the question we get a lot.
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Okay, I would say we did touch on it.
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I don t think he s going to want to talk about it because it means retiring.
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And I don t think anyone wants to retire.
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I don t know if,
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He can handle the stress or if he wants to give it away or if people will say, oh, ever since Lauren left, it s just a great excuse to say, oh, the show- We did, and it was kind of a joke, but sort of serious.
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We offered ourselves up to take over as co-producers and Lauren s eyes got real big and he just went, right.
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Right.
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And I said, or we could just take the money and we do nothing.
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Just get the credit and then stir that credit and then work at the podcast.
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And then just see if it does it on its own.
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Philosophically off the top of my head, I do think it s tough to replace Lorne because he works in so many invisible ways.
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And that is the relationship with the bosses.
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Because I m, for years, and we touched on this, but I don t- It s very complicated.
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They re always, when the show s ratings are down, sorry I had a little nip.
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When the show s ratings are down, they wanna change it.
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It s gotta be taped.
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Lorne was so vigilant about keeping it exactly the same.
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That s why you go back and it s a little bit creepy in there, because it s like going back to high school.
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It s cool.
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Now, the only thing different now when you go back is all the photos when you walk down that first hall are all so historical because it s every big star doing a big sketch and you re like, whoa, all right here.
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Yep, all the history of almost 50 years.
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So I don t know, there s names, there s Tina Fey, they re perfectly capable if she wanted it.
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Steve Higgins.
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There s Higgins, there s Downey, there s who wants the job, who can handle it.
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Remember Apatow talked about it?
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Yeah, he s a producer.
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I mean, you know, Apatow could do it.
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Maybe he wouldn t be as close enough to the show, so he d get some resistance, but he obviously knows what he s doing.
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Lauren took over as such a young man.
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It feels like it needs young, and yet, you know,
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The show is already adjusting, just culturally.
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It s evolving.
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When I was on there was like six cast members.
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Now there has to be- 600.
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20 or 25.
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Well, they were 600 for a while.
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Okay, I ll ask you a question, David.
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Who would be the biggest surprise you could think of that would take over for Lauren?
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I have my answer, but it s here yours.
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Oh.
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They re all so offensive.
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The biggest surprise.
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Oh, they re offensive?
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Why are they offensive?
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Because it sounds like they don t have a good career, if I say their name.
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It s so funny.
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Well, no, they re becoming executive producers.
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Okay, what s yours?
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Then I ll change.
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John Levitz.
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Hello, line up.
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I m producing now.
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You, out.
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You re in the cold opening.
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Do you know what a cold opening is?
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It s the beginning.
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No, that was my jokey one.
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Maybe you should try acting.
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So that would be my surprise one.
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But the truth is, nobody knows.
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It s three years from now.
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But the 50th is.
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We did talk about the 50th.
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And Lorne has not announced his retirement officially at all.
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No.
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It just feels like 50 is like, you know, it s halfway to 100.
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SPEAKER_00
Dana, why are you pushing me out the door?
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SPEAKER_00
I just want your couch.
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SPEAKER_00
That s what I told him.
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He s got popcorn.
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He s a popcorn guy.
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Tootsie rolls.
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We actually don t have an answer for this question.
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But we don t like to stop talking.
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So thank you for asking.
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And the answer is, we don t know.
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We could have said three, four minutes ago, we don t know.
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Instead, we re narcissists and we like the sound of our own voice.
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So thank you, 75 Plus.
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Yeah, we want to cram one more.
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All from the same email address.
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You know who you are.
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It s Lorne himself.
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What did they say?
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Lorne at Lorne.com.
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Okay, thanks guys.
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This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13.
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Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes.
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Available now for free wherever you get your podcasts.
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No joke, folks.
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Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment.
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The show s lead producer is Greg Holtzman with production and engineering support from Serena Regan and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.