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But look at how fast, we re almost halfway through the year.
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Guys, guys, hear ye, hear ye.
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So this is our long title holiday special with good stuff from our 100 plus episodes.
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We didn t want to say best stuff because there s just too many.
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There s too many good things and it sounds weird.
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These are just good parts, stuff that made us laugh.
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Anywhere you point, someone made us laugh very hard on each episode.
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We ve got Pepperdine, Fallon, Julie Bowen busting my balls, of course.
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She did the whole show.
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Chevy Chase, which was one of our nuttier ones, and he was hilarious.
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Sherry Oteri, who s nuts, funny, great.
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Zudeikis, Chris Rock.
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There s so many, we lost track.
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So we re just, you ll hear clips of these people,
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I think you re gonna like it and it ll be good to sort of shut you guys up, you know, over Christmas.
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And then we come back and we hit it hard when we get back.
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So speaking of hitting it hard, I m gonna go whack off.
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Anyway, folks, Merry Christmas and here we go.
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So how do you two know each other?
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I get a sense you have your friends, right?
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You know each other.
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I know her.
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I m just guessing.
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I don t know.
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Why don t you tell him, David?
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Why don t you tell your friend, Dana, how you know me?
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Yeah, what is going on here?
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I mean, I m just... I m a fly on the wall right now.
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I met Julie, I think, at a Golden Globes party.
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Is that possible?
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Golden Globes Party, HBO, Golden Globes Party, you were Steve Levitan.
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Oh, I was?
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Steve Levitan, wow.
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You were there for, you d been nominated for Just Shoot Me.
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Second time, yeah.
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I m so sorry.
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We re not keeping track.
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Now he s like, I don t know, when was it?
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Second time.
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So you sure it wasn t the first time, David?
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No, you know what?
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I mix it up.
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It s all jumbled.
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It s all jumbled.
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It was one of those awards.
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Did you win an Emmy?
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I can t remember.
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I don t remember.
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I don t think it s about that.
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I think it s nominations.
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Whoops, sorry.
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It doesn t make you a better person.
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Wait, David, did you win an Emmy for Just Shoot Me?
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Honest, I did not.
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It doesn t make you inferior.
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Others of us win Emmys.
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It doesn t matter.
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I was back when those Emmys really meant something.
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I would have given you an Emmy.
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Yeah, back when they meant something.
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Now they just hand them out like candy.
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I think you got handed too.
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I think you got right.
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2011, was that the pandemic?
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Yeah, I got one of those pandemic Emmys.
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That was the COVID ones.
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I got a COVID Emmy.
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How many nominations for Modern Family?
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Just say it.
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I don t know.
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Six, something like that.
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For me or the show?
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Six nominations.
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You know what, Julie, honestly, I thought you hosted SNL twice and you voted two Emmys.
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No, I won two Emmys and I ve never hosted SNL.
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No, I would never host SNL.
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You kidding me?
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That is terrifying.
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I watch it now.
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Also, I m kind of into, like right now, how you guys watch SNL every week, right?
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Nope.
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I see it on Instagram.
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I don t stay up that late.
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We ll see clips.
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On Sunday, you can go on and watch all the sketches.
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Right, and watch all of it.
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But the guests this year in particular are like, it s like completely, it s all new.
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Like there s none of the classics.
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You know, there s no Tom Hanks.
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It s all the guests.
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The hosts.
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Yeah, all the hosts.
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And so when I watch it now, I m like, oh, I could maybe do it now because it s just like they re much nicer and warmer, it seems like.
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And it feels like, I don t know, it feels like you used to have to come on and kill in the
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in your opening monologue.
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Oh, okay, that s an interesting observation.
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So now the hosts don t have to be here.
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No, they are really funny, but it s much more gentle and kind about that.
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They re like, I m so honored to be here.
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This is so exciting.
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It s emotional and almost serious.
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Yeah, a little political statement, yeah.
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And a little bit of like, this is, you know, what SNL meant to them growing up and how much it means to them to be there now.
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Like even, you know, Liev Schreiber did a whole like, this is such a big deal to me.
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And I was like,
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And Martin Short is on top of a piano.
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Exactly.
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He s crushing so hard.
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And so it s not as hard on the jokes as it was back when it would have been.
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Did they reach out to you?
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I would imagine during your 10 years or 11 years, there was, there was a, a soft, there was some pretty loyal.
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You were not on NBC, right?
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You re ABC or no?
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I was on NBC when David, um, tracked me down.
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And that was that other show.
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That was Ed.
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I did a show called Ed.
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Oh, that is the terminology.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Tracked.
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I was doing Ed when you were doing, he stalked you.
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He stalked me.
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We were at this, I was with Willie Garson.
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R.I.P.
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He was on, he invited me as, he s like, I ve had this said to me more than once, you look like somebody who s got a nice dress hanging in the closet.
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It s like the day before some award show.
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Clearly everyone else has dropped out.
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Could you possibly chuck on your dress and show up?
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That wasn t me, that was Willie.
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No, that was Willie.
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Okay, yeah.
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So I went with Willie and you were there with Steve Levitan and you walked by me and then walked right back again and go, hey, do I know you?
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I know you.
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Hey, what s up?
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What s up?
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And I said, no, no.
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I think I said, do we have the same barber?
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Spade has the best pattern with women.
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I mean, just, just even the flight attendant or whoever you do, you have a good, they like the funny.
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Funny matters.
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My family, when I started dating David, my family was like, Oh dear God.
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They re like, what?
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And I said, funny counts.
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I don t need to hear behind the scenes.
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Funny Counts, that s the name of your next book.
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Funny Counts, they go, does it count that much?
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Funny Counts.
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Funny Counts.
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It counts a lot because you, like Laura Michaels said once, you can t marry a face.
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Because eventually you don t even see the face.
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So you have to marry a personality.
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What s better than someone that makes you laugh all day long?
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Right.
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So David tried to track me down through, but this is where he shat the bed.
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What channels did he use?
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Are we allowed to swear on your show?
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Sure.
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What the fuck?
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I don t think we can say track me down again, but we can swear.
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What kind of tracking device did he use?
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Was it a private detective?
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No, a publicist.
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Okay.
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Which was such a fucking seam on this.
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I want to be tracked down though.
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Isn t it flattering to be tracked down a little bit?
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Not by a publicist.
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There s no other way.
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By telegram?
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When you figured out that, because at first, I told you I was a dog walker.
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Okay.
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Because you were like, I know you.
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I go, no.
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And I was like, if he doesn t know me, what am I going to give you my resume?
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No.
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You had no idea who I was.
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You just- You did the right thing.
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Thought I was cute.
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I said I was a dog walker.
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You re like.
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And then I ran into you at another party somewhere.
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And then the next thing I knew I had, you did track me down through, you figured out I had been in Happy Gilmore with Sandler.
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But anytime he s mentioned, I try to do that.
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She did the best work.
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You didn t bother to go through Adam.
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You didn t go through anybody personal.
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I didn t think I want Adam knowing my personal business.
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So what, this is a Conan Johnson PR firm and we re looking for Julie Bowen?
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No, it was literally this woman, I don t remember her name, but she tracked me down.
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I had a bunch of, a couple calls from her.
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David would like to talk to you.
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David likes, and I was like, fuck that.
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They would like to see you in his office.
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You literally were, fuck that?
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You were on Ed right I was on Ed it was not a lascivious fuck that it was no it was not like I m gonna fuck that no it was it was it was not that for sure
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It was not that.
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It was not that.
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I know, but you did that perfectly.
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I was living in New York in this building.
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I remember I was in the gym really early watching TVs with no volume.
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And I see that you had been tased by Skippy.
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Well, okay, that s a story we have not explored on this podcast.
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It s been mentioned though.
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David was tased by Skippy.
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I know the whole story.
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Tased and beaten?
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Tased was the beginning to disarm me.
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Disarming the musculature.
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It was a night of terror.
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My attention, did I mention that the volume was not on on the TVs?
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I was doing my best.
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So what did you decipher from the silence?
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Anyone who gets tased, I m gonna go to Arby s with.
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Yeah, definitely.
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No, I was like, now where was that scrap of paper I wrote down for the publicist to give me his number?
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So I called him and I was like, hey.
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That s when you called me about that?
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That s when I called you, I go, hey, it s Jared.
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You had your opener.
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Are you all right?
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I just saw you got tased by Skippy.
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And you said, now will you go out with me?
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No, I said, no, my mom, I realized my dick s still working.
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Cause I got all excited.
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I m sorry.
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Can we take that?
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You actually didn t say that.
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Well, wait a minute.
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Was it, you said dick working?
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No, I just said, now will you go out with me?
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Now will you go out with me?
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Sounds more like dating.
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Now will you, now will you go out with me?
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I had to get tased to get a date?
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No, after I was laid up for a while in very pain, I started to come to my senses.
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I don t even remember these calls because it was,
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It was so much pain.
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So much calls, so much pain.
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I didn t even know about Vicodin until right after this.
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You knew about Vicodin by the time we were on a date.
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You were little V chippies.
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I remember a lot of that.
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Oh yeah, I had a puka shell made of Vicodin.
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No, he didn t.
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He ate your necklace today.
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Everybody needs to know about David is that he s the most sensitive, delicate flower who has low blood sugar, has to carry around a little rat bag full of turkey and chicken.
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Oh, there s protein bars all over this mansion.
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In every corner.
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It s like having a puppy.
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He wants to go party, but it s at 6 p.m. 6.30.
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in bed at 8.45, but we re kindred spirits.
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We like to eat at 3.30.
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We ask the restaurants to open.
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I love both of you guys so much, I can t even tell you.
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I want to go into your career and your stuff and everything you ve done to influence me.
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You know, I wanted to be Danny Carvey.
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I wanted to be, that s my whole reason for getting on Saturday Night Live.
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That was my whole thing.
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Oh, you said David Spade wrong.
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I think that s age related because yeah David.
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No I wanted to be Dana Carvey I was sitting behind a read-through with a knife.
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Well yeah you were my surrogate you were my stand-in sometimes I do the church chat rehearsals David had to get the dress on and sit in there for camera blocking which I thought was horrible.
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David just for a few minutes can you sit in there Dana s resting.
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But Jimmy you were 12
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when I got on SNL.
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And that s what I call the peak formative year.
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It s like when I was listening to Monty Python or whatever gets in your brain at that age and through high school.
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So I appreciate you, bro.
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Thank you.
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I can t tell you how much I would, I was such an SNL nerd.
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I would record it every Saturday night.
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I would be by myself.
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I wouldn t be
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I didn t want friends over, I didn t want anyone around me, my parents, I didn t want anyone near me, I just wanted to study the show and watch it and I d videotape it, then I remember like my favorite sketches and then I would go to parties like whatever, the next week or whatever and I would bring videotapes with me with the best clips of SNL, like I was like a human YouTube.
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Or watch this part and watch this thing, but I mean I was like, I loved Chopping Broccoli,
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there she went downtown but can i tell you she s the lady i know if i didn t know her she d be the lady i didn t know i didn t know did you ever put that out like is that on spotify or something
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No, the only thing I want to say, which was mind-blowing a few years back when I did your show, and then I just, it wasn t my idea, but all of a sudden they go, Jimmy wants to do Chopped Broccoli with an orchestra.
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Remember that?
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It was fucking crazy.
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So that was the mic drop of Chopped Broccoli.
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There was a string orchestra, and then I was playing Chopped Broccoli on a baby grand.
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I had a terrible hair day, because New York water just flattened it.
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But anyway, that s just my-
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But I m chopping broccoli and I took it really far.
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She chop, she chop, she chop.
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That s a 20 minute bit in my stand up as you can imagine.
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But anyway, that s so you Jimmy.
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We do have a kismet.
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There s a connection to this musicality of what we do and the way you do impressions and everything.
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I brought a guitar.
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I mean, I m in my office.
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Will you play something for us?
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That d be awesome!
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You know, Dana, while Jimmy s futzing around, I have to say that if you re on SNL and you can play an instrument, Jimmy s like the perfect SNL guy.
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He plays an instrument, he s marginally good-looking, he...
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Voted sexiest, one of the top 50.
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He was voted one of the tallest hosts of the year.
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And he, he s got a harmonica, this fucking guy.
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Oh, I know what he s gonna do.
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Just for the people at home.
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I know what he s gonna do that s supernatural.
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He s either gonna do, he s gonna do one of three, either Dylan, Lennon, or Springsteen.
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Which are all brilliant.
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Dylan s one, but I thought maybe Neil Young too.
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Oh, Neil Young.
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Yeah, just give me anything.
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I m being entertained now by my guess.
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Okay, what is this?
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Neil Young would play the harmonica like he plays it differently than Dylan.
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Neil Young plays harmonica like with the song, so he s like... There we go.
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There, something changed.
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Yeah, it s good now, yeah.
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Can you hear it now?
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Now we hear it.
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Perfect.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So like Neil Young, Neil Young plays the harmonica like with the tune of the song.
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Yeah, with the notes.
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Yeah.
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So it s like.
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David and Dana.
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Sitting in a tree.
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Dana and Dave.
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We re just a fly on the wall down the hall of SNL.
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That s pretty good.
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SNL.
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SNL.
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SNL.
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Dana and Dave.
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They don t ever call you Dave?
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Some people do.
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You have to get in the real tight circles.
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And then Dylan s faster.
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Dylan s like.
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Yeah, a lot of up and back.
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He hits the highest note of the harmonica and just screams it, so like... Yeah.
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Yeah, that s it, yeah.
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Whoa!
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He runs out of stuff, he hits the harmonica.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I bet he runs out of lyrics.
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Have you heard Ruffin Ready, his latest album, Ruffin Ready, Bob Dylan?
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Yes.
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God, it s brilliant.
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Is it good?
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Soon After Midnight is a masterpiece.
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But he s got his new voice, which is- Well, yeah, that s what I mean, this other voice.
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I haven t really tried to do it, but it s pretty special.
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It s really raw.
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Soon after midnight, and I got a date with
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The fairy queen with the fairy queen.
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I love seeing him in concert because sometimes he doesn t feel like performing and he s just out there and he s going like... And I m like, oh man, this is weird.
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And then he s like, how does it feel?
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And you go, oh, I love this song.
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Oh my God.
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Do you mind if I lick this?
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It s called Chevy time.
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Did you ever meet Farley in the old days?
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Chris Farley?
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Yes, sir.
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I did, and Lauren had asked me to talk to him about the drug issue.
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Chevy, if you could talk to Chris... Might help.
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Might not, but might.
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I like your... Lauren.
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It s kind of quiet.
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Will you do a little Lauren first?
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Yes.
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It s that thing of like, if you could talk to Chris, you know, about drugs, it might be like a really good thing.
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I love his room.
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So I did talk to him.
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And, how d it go?
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Well, he didn t have enough drugs for both of us, so.
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See, that s a classic.
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These have been landing all day for me.
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They re hitting for me.
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They re hitting.
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Once you get into his comic frequency, it s like, it s just fun.
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Greg is laughing very hard.
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Since you d stayed longer at SNL, I kind of wish I did a couple more seasons.
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Oh Christ, I feel like I m here longer than SNL.
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He s never set up again.
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We can adjourn any time.
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Actually, I do thank you.
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We re now man and wife.
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I do, that s funny too.
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You did like 40 shows, huh?
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How tall are you?
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Thank you.
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Five, eight and a half on a good day.
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No, actually the answer to your question, I forgot the fucking question.
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You could have done movies during the summer and stayed on the show.
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Oh, you know, I would have loved to have stayed and I really mean that.
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I mean, I left because of a girl.
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I had a picture of the girl.
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And I kept saying, I m going to marry this girl.
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Look, she s beautiful.
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And Lauren kept saying, no, she isn t.
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And Doug Kenny from the National Lampoon became one of my best friends, actually became my best friend.
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That s it, that s all I got.
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Did he write Animal House?
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Did he write Animal House?
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Doug, yeah.
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He was one of the writers.
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I think that Harold stepped in there too.
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Harold Ramis.
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It was always, what s his name who wrote these things, the book or the thing?
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John.
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Was it Landis?
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No.
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John Hughes.
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John Hughes.
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Yeah.
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But friends with, what s the movie I did with Harold?
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Vacation, honey.
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Right, thank you.
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Vacation.
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Yeah.
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Andy and Harold completely rewrote it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you have to rewrite him, Hughes.
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Oh, I see.
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Because he s not really, he was not comedic like you guys.
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He s not Jewish.
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Oh.
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Well, if he gives you a blueprint of a great movie, you can fix it.
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Chevy during the podcast puts his hands up like he s holding a loaf of bread That s quite a loaf I know it s quite a little Ed wants a slice Oh labby
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Do you do a Lorne impression?
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Everybody does.
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Everyone in this oral history of Saturday Night Live, even Lorne has an impression of himself.
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Only because I ve never met anyone like that, you know what I m saying?
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No one has.
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And I d seen Austin Powers a million times before I actually got the job.
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So then I went there and I m like, so wait, he s not admitting that this is that?
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Because this is totally that.
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That sounds like a new sketch.
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This is that.
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This is totally that.
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This is totally that.
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Yeah.
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Well, did you have any lornisms?
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We d sometimes collect, you know, things that he says to people, you know, the initial one was never, never, um,
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Never underestimate the value of water is a kind of a touchstone for a lot of people.
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Yeah.
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And he also like has a way of like summing up large occurrences in the world.
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It s like, cause you know, Elvis was a twin.
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So it s that.
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It was like, what, what, what does that mean?
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Hitler was a painter and so it s all that.
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So it s that.
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World War II, what?
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I never know what that is, Scott.
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Yeah, I don t know what you mean.
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Who should take over for Lorne?
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Keith, do you have any ideas?
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Who s good enough to handle that job?
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Higgins.
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Hands down, Higgins.
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You know what I mean?
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I have him on a list here, Steve Higgins.
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I mean, Higgins is a no-brainer, but
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Eric Kenwood is out there, you know, like Aaron Doyle, you know, the people that have been there for a longer period of time.
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I think Colin, you know, myself, I don t know, Che, like we can all handle it.
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Like if we all wanted to stick around and keep it going.
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Would you entertain them if they approach you?
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Yeah, like, why not?
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It ll keep me in New York.
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It ll keep me, you know, in a stable environment, which is hard for an actor.
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I m just going to write your name down for a second.
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I m just keeping it loose.
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Write it down.
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Put it in the universe.
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Thanks.
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That s great.
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I think you... Use a pen.
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Uh, we don t have pens.
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I don t have it.
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I m disorganized Seth Meyers and Tina Fey as all of them, you know what I mean?
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Anybody that s especially been a person with a pencil in their back pocket for a week, you know, just fishing for jokes and like knows the structure of the show.
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So Seth, Tina, any one of them, I think, you know, that have had a good run at it.
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and enjoy it, they can get it.
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Well, you re interesting because you re 20 years, you know every in and out, you know what s going on.
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If you just perked your ears up to like budgets and stuff, you could figure it out pretty quickly.
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But there s also like the other element where Lorne is such a rock star and he has so many
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you know, pick up the phone favor kind of, you know, moments that he can make happen for the show.
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The network or the studio just deals with them.
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Yeah.
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And keeps them away from us, you know, keeps us protected.
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Like he s just an OG.
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So someone that can continue that kind of thing and like make it a safe space for us and then also make a phone call and get a legend in there at the last minute if it needs to be that.
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Yes, there s a lot of off-label things that he s doing that go beyond executive producer, and I think he does always develop a fondness for his cast members, you can feel it.
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He s talked very nicely about you, almost in a paternal way with other cast members.
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He becomes the de facto dad.
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that no one ever had or something, even though I m three years older than him, he s still kind of my dad.
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Yeah, that s so crazy.
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Yeah.
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But that must be a crazy dynamic because, yeah, he s the one we all kind of turn to, because if he s not happy, like, you know, the shit s not getting on, you know what I m saying?
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Like, if he s not fucking with it, then that s that s the end all be all.
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So I ve gone to him for a lot of different, you know, nothing pertaining to the show kind of advice, because he just gives that air basically like
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You know, if you have a question or, you know, if you have a situation, we can help you with it.
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You know, nothing s too, you know, too terrible that we can t fix it.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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And when I was sort of, you call it wilderness years or raising a family, whatever you want to call it.
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But then I ran into Lorne.
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He s just like he said, everyone knows who you are.
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You know, it s just Lorne in a very supportive little like, you know, whenever you re ready, you just can do it some more.
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But yeah, he s brilliant at those kind of, just been there, seen it all.
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He was like a stepdad to me because he used to ground me and hit me.
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Okay.
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That actually was Jim Downey.
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You want to talk further about that hitting part?
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No, a lot of people did.
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Let s break some news.
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We got a trend, man.
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I was a real handful.
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You weren t like the spoiled child.
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David s like a little boy and you have to take care of him.
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Dana, will you bounce him on your knee?
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David need a spanky.
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David, David, he need a little spanky and he s in a timeout.
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Don t talk to him.
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I m not going to use any sort of object or spatula.
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I m going to go full hand.
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Yeah.
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But it ll be just on the bottom.
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Skin on skin.
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That s good for Lord.
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Skin on skin.
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In the soap operas, they would come in and go straight to the bar.
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There was never a TV on in the soap operas, right?
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And so I would make up a makeshift bar and have Kool-Aid in a vase that you could see through.
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That was my carafe.
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And then I would have
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uh, ice and, um, and tongs to put.
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And then when my mother would walk in, I would stand the way the camera shots, you know, how in soap operas, the camera comes in and then the person is talking to them from the back of like a rack focus.
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Yeah.
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Kind of.
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Right.
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So I, my mother would come in and I go, Oh mother, you startled me.
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Mother, you startled me.
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Yeah.
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And she would go like this.
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Who the fuck left the door open with the air conditioner on?
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And I would go like this in my mind.
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Cut.
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So your survival mechanism was to almost live inside a soap opera with actual.
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I lived inside and no one knew what I was doing.
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It was really crazy.
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Just myself.
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And then I would watch like Little House on the Prairie.
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I d go upstairs, put my hair in flats, you know, in braids and get on my prairie pajamas.
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And I would come down and my mom would be in the kitchen.
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I go,
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Ma, when s Pa coming?
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And she goes, what?
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I go, when s Pa coming home?
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And she goes, I don t know, but you better have fucking money.
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Cut!
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So it was like my dad didn t live with us, so it was like whatever, you know.
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And in my mind, I was constantly cut.
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Because it wasn t going the way you wanted.
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It wasn t going like a TV show.
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You can t curse on TV.
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And then I remember I would watch like, The Ten Commandments was just on the other night.
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Oh, the movie, the original?
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Yeah, because it s Easter.
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Easter is coming.
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So they, you know, and I used to live for the Ten Commandments, you know, and and I would be watching it and I d go in the other room.
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My mom and her friend are smoking cigarettes and, you know, talking and I would get a ladle and I would give it to fill it with water and give it to my mom and say, Mom, can you hand this to me?
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And she s like, what, what do you want share and I go, just hand it to me.
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And then my mom s friend would say, honey, I ll hand it to you.
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And I go, no, no, no.
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And my mom go, I ll hand it to you, just give it to me so she would take it and then she would hand it to me, and I would drink it down really fast and I go, you are kind.
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I will dwell in this land.
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And she goes, dwell in the other room.
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Have you done a one woman show about this relationship?
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It s so good.
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And then my friend, I would say to my mom s friend, you are strong.
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You stood up to the Malachite.
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And so you were kind of like- Do you remember that from?
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Well, I just know the Cain s, I actually read the Bible after I saw it when I was like eight or something.
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I started reading the Bible after I saw that.
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Wow, are you serious?
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Oh yeah, I was just like, maybe this is true, man.
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This looks pretty real.
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I was like, you know, I was like seven.
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It was like a documentary to me.
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I m going to get to the bottom of this religions thing and I m going to open the book.
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He s like, is the Bible a real thing?
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And then he goes, oh, there is one at the library.
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Let me delve into this a little bit.
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Dana, that s adorable.
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And years later, just a flash, which I want to ask you too, I m with Charlton Heston on SNL and Lawrence wants to get him to do church chat, church lady with Moses.
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And he didn t want to do it.
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We re kind of pressure.
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I didn t want to pressure him, but he goes, just isn t.
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Oh my God, that would have been awesome.
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It s so surreal, those kinds of things.
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But back to this, I just want to couch this for a second.
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So your mother s,
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You probably love her.
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She s very aggressive.
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There s a lot of tension in the house.
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You escape into these shows and use three-dimensional props to kind of become a part of these calming shows.
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The Ten Commandments.
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Did you have a crush on Michael Landon, I was going to ask, because wasn t he sort of a teen idol in a way for a while?
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Yeah, well... Little House on the Prairie.
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No, I mean, did I... I like the blind girl.
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I thought it was...
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David s like, what I could ve done with that chick.
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What about the waffles?
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She couldn t see that I m not that cute.
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I would just tell her I was.
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Not with that lighting.
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Not with this lighting.
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I know, my lighting is so bad.
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You can t see him, listeners, but David s got gothic kind of lighting on him.
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My hair looks cool and no one believes me and I don t care.
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I m going to the wall with this.
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We have great hats.
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I gotta get a cool hat.
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You have a hat on.
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Well, because I was throwing you guys off because there was so much shade on my face and lighting, it looked crazy.
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So, Sherry, this is so interesting.
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I m just so, you know, when I think about you as a performer, just the word that comes in is committed.
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Not as a woman.
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Well, as a woman, that s a whole other that s a that ll be our second hour.
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We ll delve into your sexuality and everything, you know.
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No, you were very attractive.
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I mean, questions myself.
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you know, sue me and I adore you.
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But were you as committed?
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I mean, you re so committed.
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You re watching these shows, little kid, you got props and you re talking like biblical characters to your mom.
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What the fuck are you doing?
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I so love you, mother.
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How did this inform you as a performer?
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I mean, obviously, you developed an ear and you re theatrical, but you d never done anything official till you go into Groundlings.
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And then how many years into that were you in the main company and ready for SNL?
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How long did it take you?
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I did two
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years of classes and then two years in the Sunday company writing and performing every Sunday and And then I got into the main company I was in the main company for a year and a half and I would say that SNL was my first job Wow, and that was you were prepped enough right because you were doing pretty much exactly SNL pretty much.
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Yeah, I mean I just kept the same kind of writing and and just
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you know, just kept, there s, you know, I learned the difference between theater and television.
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I remember writing something in the Groundlings that did really well, but it died.
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And I remember Colin Quinn saying, Cher, I don t know if this is gonna come off the way it did in theater because,
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When you talk out in theater on a stage, the audience can imagine the fourth wall.
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If you do it on television, you just look crazy.
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if you re talking out, you know what I m saying?
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And I did not know the difference between that.
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And I remember it was Kevin Spacey and I had done this character where she has a party every year, the same party, and only two people show up, but she acts like there s a lot of people there.
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She says all the things that you say when it s a really packed party.
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You know what I mean?
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Right.
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Did you find parking?
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Excuse me, I just got a request.
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The the the Keg is beat.
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We re a young party.
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The Keg is beat.
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We ve got to put I m going to pass a hat around and all these things.
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And I did it with.
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Kevin Spacey.
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And it just died because of what he said, because a lot of it was me talking out to people that weren t there.
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And it s kind of confusing.
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But and then I remember Lauren always saying, Sherry, do you know where your camera is?
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And I thought it was a trick question.
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I go, yeah.
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No, you don t.
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Because the people at home would like to see the people at home would like to see you, too.
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And I didn t even know what he meant.
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Now you play basketball mm-hmm did I just the only thing I asked I ll ask this first Can could you touch the rim?
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I could could you dunk a baseball?
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I could dunk a baseball Yes, I probably dunked a basketball ten times in my life.
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Shut up never during a game with a referee I was just talking about this yesterday Witnesses going on right now
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You know, a lot of basketball, so I m just... So you re 6 2 or 6 1?
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6 1.
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What s your wingspan?
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Oh, probably 6 1.
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Nothing spectacular.
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So you had a pretty good vertical to get a basketball.
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It was also adrenaline.
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I also had a lot of friends that could jump, and so it s a little bit of peer pressure that way, too, where it s just, come on, just shut up and do it.
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But I do remember if I dunked 10 times, six of them, six of those times were one day after playing basketball, like in between junior, senior year, you know.
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No, no, sophomore, junior year, like during summer.
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That s unreal, dude.
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My dad put up a nine-foot hoop and it fucked all the kids because we were awesome on the nine-foot hoop.
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Such a great feeling.
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And then we d go to high school, what the hell is it doing?
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I can get the net I can dunk on the nine foot.
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It s awesome.
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It s it s it was a It s less of a big deal now I feel like you know shooting threes off the dribble is what it s all about now because of you know Steph Curry and whatnot But back and you know back when I was playing dunking was the biggest deal in the world I mean, that s the I was the the test market for those strength shoes.
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You know that they know that people
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that would kind of create that.
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Yeah, I mean, I had a pair for the legit reason, I would jump rope in them all the time.
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A lot of time spent on that, but yeah.
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You know, when they do it now, they go past half court, it s like one step, two steps, shoot it, and you go, Jesus, how do you guard?
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You don t even know what s happening.
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He changed everything.
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It s just one, two, boom, and you go, and then they make it 90% of the time.
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Yeah, him, Caitlin Clark, on the women s college circuit too.
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I mean, it s all over the place, all over the world, yeah, just shooting.
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You play Sandler?
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Adam and I have played, I think we may have played once or twice, but not enough to have a scouting report.
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I hear he s good.
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He gets into it.
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He s competitive too.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah, like get open you don t talk to me like that Jesus happy Gilmore, I m not Check the call sheet.
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I go.
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All right, you are not triggering financing out here, but we are all the same.
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No, I
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But no, he s played in a game with my buddy Sam Jones that I ve played in a few times, and my buddy Brad Morris.
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But yeah, I haven t played, maybe once or twice.
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I mean, probably the best, most fun I d had playing in the, was hearing the stories of Gary Shandling s game, then getting invited to go play in that with Sarah Silver.
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Oh, you did?
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Yeah, and before he passed.
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And then a huge thing was when Gary was like, hey, you can come without Sarah if you want.
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Oh, that s a big deal.
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Like a lovely sort of, because I d read about that game forever.
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Oh yeah, in Shannon s house.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Sarah, you, I mean, who were the regulars?
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Oh my gosh, I mean, McKay was there.
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Jimmy Miller.
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Jimmy was there a couple of times.
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I used to go in early, not early, early days, but there was a run there when I went and I was no good and I sort of got pushed in the background.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Not the emails anymore.
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out there?
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I was like, distraction, whatever they call it.
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Yeah, I just want you out there, like on the side, just like, you know.
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We need five to keep it even.
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You go out there and run around in circles.
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Or a spud web.
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I would have been a spud web.
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But no, I got out of that quickly.
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I was D basketball in high school and our center was literally 5 3 .
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He controlled the paint.
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That was when they had D basketball.
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Five foot tall, 91 pounds as a freshman.
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What about you?
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Were you always a bearded stud in high school?
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No, no, no.
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I was, it was a beard of acne like any of us, right?
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I don t think I could grow a beard until about an hour before I got here.
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How did your anger express itself then to you?
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I mean, here s the weird thing.
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It s when I was, I mean, my child, I was bullied.
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Ridiculously, half of it, the bullying, because I was just a little guy.
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And then I got bused to school.
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So I got I was a little guy and I was black.
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Right.
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It s hard.
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So it s like I m getting double bullied.
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I would if I was white, I would have probably got bullied, too.
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But it was just like, oh, you re also supposed to be tough.
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Probably.
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Yeah, it was pretty rough.
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Right.
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And it was pretty like every day.
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So I it s weird.
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I had a weird temper.
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I m going to it s going to be a weird thing.
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I was the oldest of seven and and I was weirdly smaller than my younger brothers.
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So it was a weird thing where your brothers like, hey, so-and-so down the block bothered me.
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And I m like, I got to fucking go protect.
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Oh, Andre, I told you.
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Wow.
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And I m fucking smaller than them.
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So anyway, one day a guy, a guy really disrespected me really bad, like mush me at a party and like mush me and push like kind of like kick sand on my face in front of girls and shit.
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And I went home, I put a brick in a book bag.
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This is like a legendary story in my neighborhood.
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Like bad boys, yeah.
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And I fucking swung that shit and smacked this guy in the face with this brick and then stomped him Joe Pesci style.
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Wow.
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Now, to the point, we thought he might die for like, even like three days later, every time a cop or whatever would come through the block, we d be like, we re literally talking about ways of getting me this down south, like that would have helped.
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Long story short, from that day on, as my shrink puts it to me, you have been scared to be angry ever since.
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So the guy you saw,
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was bending over backwards, to be nice, because I was so scared of my ankle.
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Yeah, I see.
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I was frightened of what, you know, my shrink, the good shrink I got, you know.
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like the top, top guy.
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There s good ones and bad ones, definitely.
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There s good ones and bad ones, you know, and he broke it down.
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It s like, we got to get you over that incident.
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Right.
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Because you re a nice guy and this guy brought out something in you and you re so scared of that thing coming out of you again.
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Yeah.
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That you let the whole world walk all over you.
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Your friends walk over you, your family walks over you, your female relationships, everybody just fucks you over.
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Because it s somewhere in there, they know there s a force field holding you back.
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Interesting.
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So confrontation.
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So I m like the opposite of you in the sense that in the last year, now I can get angry.
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Right.
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I m not scared.
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I m not scared of letting people know how I feel about certain things.
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My therapy was about that too, though.
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Cause I was always the nice guy holding stuff in and not really, my aggression, my competitiveness overrode the nice guy.
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Cause people will ask me who meet me now, well, did you just allow other cast members like, oh no, Lauren, do their sketch, that kind of thing.
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There was a natural competition in me, but in my personal relationships, I hated confrontation because when confrontation happened at my house, bodies flew.
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My dad was just really violent.
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All my siblings are like that.
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We don t like confrontation.
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Yeah, no, that s true.
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And that goes too far.
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It wasn t violent per se, but it was loud as fuck.
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But those things stick with you, just loud.
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Yeah, it just sticks with you.
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So now, yeah, I can tell you, hey, I didn t like what you said to me, or I didn t like what you, without losing my head, without hitting anybody.
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Well, that s a home run for therapy.
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