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Let s talk to Chris.
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Woo!
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Oh, hey, how are you?
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This is Chris.
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Hi.
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What s going on, man?
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Hey, how are you?
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I m good.
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I m a gecko on the computer.
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Chris, it says here that you ve been getting angry very often.
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It says you have a short temper and you want to know why you ve been getting angry so easily.
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Yeah, that has been the case.
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A lot of people have been pointing that out and, you know, just, um, after a certain situations or after a day, I ll think back on it.
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I ll be like, maybe I, maybe I did, uh, overreact a little, but, um, I didn t used to be like that is the thing.
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Interesting.
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Okay.
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So what, when you say that you re short tempered and you get angry recently, like what sorts of things have been making you angry?
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Um, like, like the small things, like, um, for example, um, at like, if somebody were to ask me like a really dumb question where they could answer themselves, like without having to ask me, uh, give me an example of a question like that.
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Um, I mean, uh, I mean, a good example I could give you is like, if, um, if I park right next to the gas station after my car started beeping like low gas, and you know, the person in the passenger seat will ask me, like, oh, are we getting gas?
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I guess.
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No shit Sherlock.
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Okay.
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Interesting.
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Okay.
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So that, and that, and a little thing, a little thing like that just gets at you and makes you mad.
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Yes, but it s more like the accumulation of all those things in like one day.
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Yeah, okay, so that s what I was gonna say is, you know, I m not a real therapist, I m a gecko guy on the internet who is insane, but... Of course.
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My hypothesis on this thing is that obviously, you know, and you know this, everyone knows, you re not actually mad that your friend asked you that question.
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Your anger is coming from a different place.
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Or from a, as you said, accumulation of multiple things.
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And so I m curious, maybe we can get there, where this anger is being redirected from.
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Do you have any ideas?
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That s a good point.
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I mean,
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I, I would have to think about that.
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Tell me, tell me this.
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What, how is your, how was your life going just on a macro level?
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I mean, in my opinion, I m going to be just starting because after high school, which is like 2020, you know, beginning of COVID all that, uh, that s when I kind of became a homebody, you know, and, um, I m still kind of,
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used to that.
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And I took a break from college and I m just starting that off now, too.
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So.
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Yeah, pretty much just at the start of things.
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OK, so at the start of things and you said you took a break from college and now you re back.
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Yes.
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OK, how are you enjoying college?
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I mean, it s not too bad.
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I m actually doing it with my girlfriend.
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She s the one that convinced me to, you know, go back and give it a try.
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And, you know, after some talking, I kind of realized it probably is the easiest way to my career path.
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Okay.
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How are things going with your girlfriend?
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Um, I would say pretty good.
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I mean, we ve been together for about a year and a half, so
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Yeah, I don t see any problems with her but I mean she is one of the people that have pointed out that I get pretty angry quick.
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Okay.
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All right, so things are going well with the girlfriend.
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You re at the beginning of your life path, as you ve said.
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Are you having feelings of excitement?
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Are you, you know, there s a lot of potential energy with you right now.
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Are you like excited about what s to come?
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I definitely kind of have like a love-hate relationship with her
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I never liked school.
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You know, that s one of the reasons why I took a break in the first place.
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But like I said, it just makes sense how it s the easiest way to what I want to do.
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So I m just going to give it a try.
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Give it my all, I guess.
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Alright, so there s no anything going on in your life that is like, at least from what I m gathering from what you re telling me, that is causing you a lot of anger and frustration in a big way.
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I mean, I guess, I mean, I guess maybe like, um, job-wise I could be fucking struggling a little bit.
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That s, I have a few regrets with my job choices.
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Uh, why, why is that?
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Cause I mean, uh, I want to say a year ago, I used to have like a really good job, like really good.
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And I quit because, uh, I don t know.
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I don t know why I quit.
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Like I should have just dealt with, uh, with what was like happening, but you know, I just got, uh, I guess I got a little too quick with it and I quit and I regret it.
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I haven t found a job that good since I ve had it.
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Okay.
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And this regret, is it just like a passing thing or is it, is it a prevalent source of anger in your day to day life?
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I mean, I think about it frequently because like right now what I do as a job is I kind of just help out my father with, you know, his job.
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and he pays me.
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And, you know, that s just how I get my money.
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I m able to pay, like, most of my stuff like that.
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But before, I didn t really have to rely on, you know, my dad or anything to, like, if my bills come through, it s just, like, yeah, he owes me money because, like, we did the work, but it just sucks having to go up to him, like, hey, can you send me the amount that I need and shit?
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Or, like, I need money to go out
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It s like I know I could probably just, you know, I could always just ask him because it s my money, he said.
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I just have to, it s like whenever it s available, it ll be there.
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Alright, so none of this stuff, I mean, it doesn t sound like any of this stuff, I m trying to poke around your brain and life and find anything that could be, like, really frustrating you, but it doesn t at least sound to me, I mean, sure you have this regret about your job, but, you know, you re a human being, no human being has ever, you know, lived with absolutely no regrets of anything ever.
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Um...
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And it doesn t sound like, at least to me, from the limited amount of information you ve given me, that there is, uh, any large pain points.
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So I m wondering why you re still getting upset at these little things, or like, what is triggering you to have such like hostile reactions?
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Go ahead.
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Right.
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The best I can honestly describe, like the, the,
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You know, and so I guess we think it s like when, when something doesn t work, how it s supposed to like, if, if one day I wake up and my Bluetooth lights aren t working, like, this is just an example.
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Then I ll get mad at like, I ll like serve some shit.
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Okay.
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And I would just ruin my morning.
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Okay.
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Um,
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Interesting.
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You should read it.
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I m going to.
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Can I have permission to say some douchey stuff?
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Of course, you should read up on stoic philosophy.
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I m not going to sit here and pretend like I ve read a whole bunch of books on it, but I feel like the crux of it is accepting things that you cannot control.
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you.
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get upset that your Bluetooth is not working, you are wasting precious energy toward absolutely nothing productive.
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Like, this thing happened, and getting upset about it, it will not benefit you in the slightest.
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It won t motivate you to do anything about it.
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It is nothing but a pure waste of your precious energy to get upset about your Bluetooth not working.
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And I think that it takes a little bit of time.
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Like, you know, you could hear me say that and go, oh yeah, I guess you re right.
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But to really change your gut reaction, you gotta train yourself to understand that.
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And you have to do this in an intentional way.
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So tomorrow when you wake up and your Bluetooth doesn t work, your gut reaction,
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will be to get upset, and you have to intervene and stop the gut reaction by saying to yourself, this is a waste of energy, it s not gonna do anything, you know, I will just accept this and move on with my day.
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And the more mornings that you do that, when your Bluetooth isn t working, or when your friend asks you why you re getting gassed, your gut reaction will slowly start to be replaced by that thought.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that does make sense.
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So... Yeah, I should... I would... That s for sure.
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So next time you, you just, just do this, you know, your, your anger and your frustration occasionally can be a useful tool if it propels you into some form of action that can be beneficial to the situation you re in.
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But like most of the time,
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It s just a complete and utter waste of your precious energy.
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You know, because if you go around being fucking pissed off at every single opportunity that you have to get pissed off, you re gonna be miserable.
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You know?
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Like if you re, there are these people who, you know, like if I m in the passenger car with somebody who is like an angry driver, and they re always beeping, or like somebody, let s say cuts them off in traffic,
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And then five minutes later, they re still talking about the person that cuts them off in traffic.
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It s like, what are you doing?
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Just be like, oh, fuck that happened.
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And then completely move on with your life.
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It s not an effective way to be to get pissed off at every opportunity that you have to get pissed off.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Honestly, that was a pretty good example of like a few of my days.
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Okay, I mean, is that a thing for you?
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You get pissed off in, like, traffic-y car situations?
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Yes.
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Like, absolutely, yes.
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Um... Yeah, man, just- just try to, uh, recognize what your gut reaction is to these situations.
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Like, get on the stepladder and observe your own reactions, and then put forth intentional effort to change them.
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Here s something funny that happened this one time.
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So like I said, I m not a very good traffic person.
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So I try to avoid that as much as possible.
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My girl lives like 30 minutes away from me.
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Like with traffic, it s an hour, but I don t mind it at all.
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But usually I drop her off at like two in the morning because that was after work.
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We used to work at like a movie theater.
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And then I would just go back home late at night.
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One day I dropped off early and I forgot that the roads would probably be, you know, full, but it was like, whatever I get on the road.
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And this one time, like bumper to bumper traffic, moving five miles per hour on the highway.
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And I said, you know what?
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It s okay.
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We ll get home eventually.
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You know, it was a good day.
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We ll just relax, sit back, uh, listen to a podcast.
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Yeah.
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My car overheated because of how long I was in traffic.
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And, um, I had to pull over and waited till like 12 a.m.
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to actually start getting home.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, like the one time I wasn t impatient.
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And that pissed you off?
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Yes.
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Like unbelievably.
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Yeah, I mean listen it sounds like in that situation you did the best you could but you ll get listen man.
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You ll get to a point where You ll you ll you ll be like, I mean I looking back on that now, I mean that s super funny That you were patient in this.
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Yeah.
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No, it s funny.
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It s funny.
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You see it s funny now Maybe next time when it happens, you ll recognize that it s funny in the moment and that ll help you in some way
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Yeah, hopefully.
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That was definitely like... Chris, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Don t let the small thing bother you guys.
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It s not worth it.
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Beautiful.
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Yeah, have a good night, Derek.
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Thanks for calling, Chris.
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Have a good night.
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But just just to really just to clarify, just just to clarify, I ve probably I bought a book on stoic philosophy and I probably read.
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Twenty five pages of it, and that s about how much I ve read.
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It s really important to me that I don t create a false narrative of who I am that involves me being a guy who reads a lot of books.
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I ve probably read four books over the course of my entire existence.
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I just want to clear that up.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Is this Landon?
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Yes, it is.
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What s going on with you, Landon?
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I am currently in my house playing Halo.
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You are currently in your house playing Halo.
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Yes, the useless video game.
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And I want to talk to you about how I, well, I don t think it s a fact that around 5 billion years, the sun is going to blow up and the earth is obviously in the radius and the earth will be uninhabitable and humanity, if it s still on earth, will be dead by then.
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Uh, yeah, it says here that you have a fear that the sun will eventually blow up the earth, uh, long after you re dead.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So why, why does that scare you?
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The sun blowing up the earth?
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Well, humanity, it s been around for a while, but not for that long.
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Um, compared to the life of the earth, we re fucking useless.
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Um,
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All the progress we ve made as a species, all we ve developed, will kind of always be taken away from us, and I don t know.
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It doesn t really leave a nice taste in my mouth.
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I know it s inevitable, but maybe we d be far off into the stars by then, or maybe we ll just be extinct, and I d be okay with either way, because it would never really affect my personal life, because I probably only live to, like,
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nine year, eight year or something, but it s just food for thought.
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I find it.
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I always find it interesting.
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Um, when, you know, someone like yourself, you know, that you re going to be long dead after this happens, but it s still is affecting you emotionally.
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Yeah.
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Um, how much of a thing is this for you?
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Is this something you think about very often?
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Oh, usually every day.
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And sometimes it s a nice thing.
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Like life is kind of pointless, so I should just do what makes me happy.
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But sometimes it s kind of a sad thing because it s kind of shows how time will won t last forever.
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I have pretty big plans for my life and I feel confident enough to achieve them like I want to make music.
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and an
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so you kind of you kind of touched on this about how there s many many different ways to look at uh this fact that the sun will explode and all of humanity will be destroyed which is as you said oh since that s gonna happen i should just
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take advantage of it and do whatever I want and be happy or you can look at it from a depressing oh nothing is uh uh matters why do anything that s the two choices nothing matters let s go do everything nothing matters let s do nothing and at a certain point you know that this is an objective fact but how you respond it s an objective fact that you can t control but you can respond you can control how you respond to it
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which you you kind of touched on already so do you find yourself being pulled in either direction depending on the day like some days you wake up and your nihilism is like well shit nothing matters let s go make a crazy song let s go talk to a stranger at the park
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you know, or do you go, nothing matters, I m just gonna fall asleep and not even exert effort towards anything.
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Do you find yourself being torn by those two thought processes?
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Oh yeah, all the time, I m very on and off.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Sometimes I think maybe it s like the intelligent thing to just not really care and
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Not give up, but it s kind of become apathetic.
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Because when I think, let s just say, never been, at least maybe it s smart to accept it.
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And maybe getting this confidence of, oh, I can do whatever I want, or give me some false hope or something.
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So you have a fear that if you feed the side of yourself that is optimistic about these nihilistic facts, that you re just giving yourself false hope.
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Yeah, because, you know, I have pretty, like I said, big goals, but I think it s okay to get myself grounded.
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I can go a little extreme with the grounding and be like, what s the point?
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Let s get into these goals.
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What are these goals?
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From a young age, I ve always been very like, I m talented with visual things.
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I m a bit of an artist, but I also want to express like feelings and emotion and concepts through music and kind of mix the two together.
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Like make music with backstory of a music video.
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It s quite artsy or
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I m mixed to movies or something.
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I just really express myself and try to get across these weird feelings that sometimes I m afraid that nobody else will ever experience.
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Like, you know, I ll be like listening to this piece of music and I ll be like, huh, does anybody else feel the way I do right now when I listen to this?
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It makes me feel like very warm and nostalgic or happy or sad or romantic or whatever, you know, it s like,
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There s all this stuff and it s like, what s the point?
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Maybe it s okay to keep all to myself and have my own self-satisfaction or maybe others do want to experience my thoughts and, you know, soak in art or whatever.
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Hmm.
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Well, that is kind of, and let s get douchey in here, that is kind of what an artist is, is you re taking your perspective on a thing and you re sharing it with others confidently in the form of a painting, a song lyric, a poem, a fart, whatever it is.
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And I think that that s a worthwhile pursuit.
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In the face of all of humanity is going to be destroyed by the sun one day...
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The optimistic thing would be to go, hey, all these things that I m doing, I ll just do them for the sake of them themselves.
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I m doing it for the sake of it, not to leave a lasting legacy, not to get people to think that I m a genius, but just for the sake of doing the thing in the moment.
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I see, yeah.
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And I think you know, I think you already, you already know this.
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It sounds like you ve thought about all this shit already, but the, the, the, the... When you re fighting between the pessimistic and the optimistic viewpoint on these, you know, this whole, oh, the sun is going to explode, nothing will matter.
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It all depends on which wolf you feed, you know?
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Like, which of these two are you going to feed into?
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And I think if you really are smart,
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You would feed the optimistic one, because a maybe is always going to lead to more than a no.
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The no is nothing.
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There s nothing there.
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And you could go, oh, I m super smart, so I m just going to not care about anything.
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But if you re really smart, you ll pick the maybe.
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Because that has the more potential for things to happen.
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So if I were you and I was battling between these two perspectives, I would feed the one with the most potential.
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And that s the one that s, okay, nothing matters.
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Let me go write a fucking song about bears.
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Yeah, I see.
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In the past, I ve had this plan where
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I use my creativity.
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So I m into a lot more darker, kind of alt music.
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I have a big taste, hippie, all that stuff, but I m really into like 80s goth, and usually I have like a darker tone.
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So I want to use my creativity and take advantage of that and be happy and make music, but sing about these like darker, more pessimistic topics to kind of give some food to thought, you know?
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And, you know, I m pretty content with that idea.
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I don t really know if I should, but you re telling me I should, so I m going to take that to heart.
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What s your name again?
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Landon?
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Landon.
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Yeah.
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You know, man, I, um, I like thinking about this kind of stuff cause it is true.
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And, uh, it s interesting to me cause I m, I m, I think I m self-centered in the sense that I truly could give a fuck about what happens, um, you know, to the universe.
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Uh, you know, there s all this talk about, here s where I m going to get, you know, flamed, but,
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It s funny to me, if society falls and the sun explodes and the earth explodes, it s like we had a good run.
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With there were people Some of the people had good lives The people felt things the people loved people the people made things they ate things we tried We failed and now the you know Earth is going to explode
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Yeah, have you ever heard of, um... What do we need more time to do?
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We did it.
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We had a good run.
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Let s accept it.
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And all die.
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And let whatever alien creature dog thing comes next do its thing.
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You know, why do we need to be saved?
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Yeah, I think that, um... There s this term called, like, the great filter, which is like any species, there s only one great filter that kills it.
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I kind of have a theory, because we re pretty advanced creatures, very emotionally complex, and there s all these problems that come from our negative emotions, like war from hate and all that, or we have a lot of love and joy too, and beauty.
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By the time that the sun blows up, it s just really stupid, probably won t happen.
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Like, the scientists, I ve actually considered writing a story about this.
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The scientists make this, like,
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time capsule that saves all of our history and stuff before we die, right?
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And it s, I don t fucking know, it s some system that s protected from the sun.
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And billions and billions and trillions of years later, if like a new species evolves or aliens come or, you know, if this new species evolves and it s intelligent enough to understand and kind of see these signs and all of that, they can learn from our mistakes and maybe gain from our knowledge and all of that.
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And then one day they ll die.
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You know, because they ll probably live longer than we did.
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They ll give it a good shot, and then eventually they ll fuck up and die.
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And then maybe they ll leave a time capsule, and then...
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and then the super advanced flamingo people will pick up on theirs and then it ll just keep going until we have giant spiders who are like masters of science and technology.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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Hey Landon, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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You re a pretty cool guy.
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I spend a lot of my time listening to your podcasts and all
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This is my first time calling you.
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I feel like it was a kind of decent call and keep on doing what you do, people.
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He s a cool guy and that s all.
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Bye.
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I feel like this was a kind of decent call too, Landon.
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I appreciate you making it.
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SPEAKER_01
Hey there.
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SPEAKER_01
Hey.
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SPEAKER_01
Hi.
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What s your name?
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My name is Bocephus.
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Ah, fucking say that again.
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Bocephus.
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Can I call you Bo?
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, you know what, call me Jimbo.
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SPEAKER_01
Is that like a username of some kind?
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SPEAKER_02
No, no, it s just a made-up name.
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SPEAKER_02
I got a nickname.
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I go by my name.
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Okay, I don t feel bad calling you by a different version of your made-up name.
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Okay, Bo.
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Yeah, Bo is cool.
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What s up, Bo?
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What did you want to talk about today?
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SPEAKER_02
Uh, well, you know, I m kind of like stuck right now.
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I m stuck in a job that I know I do a lot of good work, but it just feels like a lot of the, uh, the people that are there really don t give a shit.
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SPEAKER_02
Um, but it s for a good cause, you know?
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SPEAKER_02
Um, and I just, for my livelihood sake, I don t want to name
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any particular names, right?
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But it s for a good cause.
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You know, we work with high-end kids, you know, DCFS kids, kids that go through a lot of issues and we provide them a safe space.
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But I don t know if you know, but I mean, you know, the nation is, we re in a tough spot as far as like,
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providing services and trying to maintain those services.
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The first thing cut is mental health, right?
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So, yeah, so I ve, I ve been at this place for a pretty long time and I don t want to name how long, uh, but, uh, I m coming up on a pretty interesting, uh, year.
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Uh,
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because this is a pretty big mark here as far as how long I ve been there, but I just don t feel like there s any room for me to grow, you know?
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Sure.
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And it s, uh, it s challenging.
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Um, and, uh, I ve asked and I just don t know what else to do.
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I know if I do something else, it won t be as fulfilling, but I ll probably make more money.
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That s the conundrum I m in.
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I kind of want like a purpose.
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Well, a wise man did once say, fuck them kids.
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And sometimes in life, you do have to get up and say, fuck them kids.
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I got to go do something else.
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No offense to the kids.
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I m sure they re great kids, but you ve been there for so long that you have lost count.
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And now it seems as though, uh, you ve given them all you have.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, I feel depleted.
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It s, uh, every day is mundane.
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The same thing over and over again, but, uh, wearing many hats type of thing, you know?
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So, so give me this.
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What, what, what s, if you were to, to, um, you know, say sayonara to the children, what would you want to then go do?
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You know, that s the thing.
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I don t know, man.
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Um,
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I ve been trying to reach out to all my contacts and just trying to get a feel of what s out there.
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I don t know.
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I mean, I have many different interests.
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I like working with my hands.
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I like being outside.
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I like working in the garden.
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I like producing things.
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I like networking.
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I like talking with people.
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I like creating bridges.
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I like helping other people, you know?
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Okay.
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Well, I mean, you just named, like, 50 different things, which could all lead to 50 different... Yeah, I know, I know.
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SPEAKER_01
Well, it s a good thing, right?
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Because you named five... zero different things.
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And now all of those things can bridge off into lots of other career paths.
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And so one thing I talk about on this show all the time that I think about a lot is like the underlying desire as to why you do whatever it is you do.
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And if the underlying desire as to why you work with these kids can be fulfilled in a way that doesn t make you want to kill yourself, then you should explore that option.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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You see, I ve been thinking about this with myself, too.
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I ve gone through a few changes in scenery in my own life, and once you lose the... Give me an example of something you ve done.
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SPEAKER_01
Sure, I mean I used to run a fucking, my whole thing was I ran a comedy club out of my basement and then that got shut down because the landlord saw an Instagram ad that I was running and was like, is that my fucking house?
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They got salty.
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Yeah, and then I don t know, and that was like my everything, you know, and I couldn t do it anymore.
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And I had to figure out what I liked in doing that, you know, maybe I liked bringing folks together, maybe I liked community, I don t know, just the underlying principles as to why I liked that, and then go try to take those underlying principles and apply them to something else, you know.
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Yeah, and so I think if you can do it I think when you become tunnel visions onto any specific thing you kind of fuck yourself a little bit right you come to you you you attach yourself to a company a Job a person of this that as opposed to attaching yourself to like underlying principles underlying desires I d have realized I ve kind of realized what mine are and
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Which is that... I... I just want to be doing something... I literally have it boiled down to, I just want to be doing something... interesting.
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That s all I care about, I think.
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I mean, I probably care about it a lot more than that, and I probably have a lot more underlying desires, but that s one that I always go back to.
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I just want to be doing something interesting.
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And if that s, uh, you know, throwing basement, uh, show things, or being a gecko and...
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talking to strangers or you know growing corn in uh iran then well you know whatever i just as long as it s something yeah so i ve i ve regaled myself to that
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I m- by the way, I m horrible at taking- I want you to know something, I want everyone to listen.
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I m horrible at taking the advice that I just gave you.
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I m horrible at taking the advice I just gave you because... It s hard.
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Because you get attached to your thing.
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You d think I m not fucking attached to being a gecko and talking about- I couldn t give this up.
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Easily I d like to think I could because of all the things that I m talking to you about I d like to Be better at following my own advice.
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I understand why you have the attachment to your current position.
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I mean, there s a lot In it and to totally change up your life is not an easy thing But these are these are things that I think about Yeah, I mean it s a there s a lot of weight to it and I can relate to
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I think with you, you have a following.
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I don t know how many millions of people are following you.
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I m sure you have a really huge following.
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You have that passion and that interest and it s very cool.
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It s cool to watch and I think I randomly found
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you on, I don t know, YouTube?
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Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, before you tell me where you found me from, why do you think, what do you think me having a following has to do with this?
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I can t, can you repeat that?
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Hold on.
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Something s happening here.
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What do you think me having a following has to do with that?
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I think it, I think it pushes you.
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I think it pushes you to keep going.
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And you have so many, you have so many irons in the pot.
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I think it s really pushing you.
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Yes, I agree.
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I think it s a terrible thing to be pushing me.
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I think it s a bad thing to push me.
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I mean, look, you have your job.
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I m sure you re pushed by money.
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I m sure you re pushed by expectations of the people at your job who ve employed you.
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I m sure you re pushed by these kids and a desire to avoid any guilt you might have of leaving them behind.
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And so, I don t know, is other people s expectations, which is what a following is, money, and...
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guilt.
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I think it s my own expectations I put on myself too.
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Sure.
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But are those are those all good things to be your your driving force as to why you wake up in the morning?
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Yeah.
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Probably not.
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Probably not.
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I think you and I are discovering this together.
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Yeah.
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But it feels like it s a necessity and task.
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You know no matter what I do
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how hard I try to recruit to get people to work at this high-end place.
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See, now you re kind of learning a little bit more about me.
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I really didn t want to share all that, but it s never enough, and it s never going to be enough.
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But, you know, I have many other interests besides just this.
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There s much more to me, and maybe I need to start exploring some of that stuff, too, because in some ways I feel like I ve kind of lost myself in a way.
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you know, by not doing the other things that make me happy outside of work.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, what s your fake name again?
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Listen I want you to know if you do I and I m not gonna tell you what to do because I ve resigned to not writing that even though I kind of totally did When you re walking out of there and a little kid with like dirt on his face or whatever someone like an Oliver Twist kind of looking is what I m imagining.
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Yeah sure
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is holding you by the leg and going, Mr. Bo, please don t go, I need you.
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Mr. Bo, please don t go.
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Don t listen to him.
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You should go.
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Right, right.
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Yeah, I hear that.
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And I appreciate your time.
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And I was actually trying to call in here, I don t know how many times, but my name on your list is Orangutan.
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So if you see me, I m on there somewhere.
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SPEAKER_01
What list?
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SPEAKER_01
The, the chat list.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_00
All right.
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SPEAKER_00
The sentence, my name on your list is orangutan meant very little to me without any context.
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I had, yeah, I m sorry.
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I do that sometimes, I guess.
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You have nothing to apologize for.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but thank you.
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Thank you for your time.
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And I want to, I want to stick around here.
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I want to see what else other people can, um, um,
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what they got going on.
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I want to hear how they go.
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Thank you very much, Bo.
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I appreciate you, man.
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You take care.
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You too.
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SPEAKER_03
Call from Bianca.
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Hello?
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Hi.
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Oh my goodness.
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What s up?
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How s life?
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Life is good.
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Why is it good?
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I don t know, honestly.
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I think it s because you answered my call.
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That is a terrible reason for your life to be good.
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SPEAKER_00
I m gonna be a hundred percent honest with you what?
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SPEAKER_00
And it s a terrible reason for your life to be good Okay, but you understand why I m saying that right oh
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Yeah Me answering because when when I think when you re thinking about the pillars of what makes your life?
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Enjoyable to live if one of them is the fact that you re on the phone with me right now That s a bad pillar because I don t know when but eventually eventually we won t be on the phone together Well, I know but you know hard to get like on your stream and like connect to you I
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, well, I m sorry for being a dick, but I know it s what I thought at that moment.
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SPEAKER_00
Bianca, um, what is is there?
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What did you want to talk about today?
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Well, I had a few things on my mind.
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But I think the main thing is like, my friends like they re like, okay, I love them possessed.
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Don t get me wrong.
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But like, I feel like my friend, I m not gonna name any names, because what if they re watching, but my one friend, she is like, controlling.
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of her boyfriend and I m always in the middle of it.
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Like, no matter what it is, they re always like, like, Oh, can you like, I need your advice no matter who it s from.
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And I m so sick of like getting in the middle of it because I love them both so much.
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It s just like, I, I don t want to talk like shit about them to each other, but I kind of do it without knowing.
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How old are you, Bianca?
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SPEAKER_03
I m 24.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay, and you were friends with these people before they started dating?
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah, actually I was friends with the guy first.
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SPEAKER_00
You were friends with the guy first.
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Here s what I m curious about.
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Maybe you can help me out with this because I m very curious about like, uh... What is...
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Like when I want to see my friends, I have to really go out of my way to do it.
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SPEAKER_00
The way that you re describing this situation, it sounds like you re in, you have some kind of lifestyle where you re like just recurringly naturally seeing these people.
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Is that true?
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SPEAKER_03
I guess, I don t know.
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I mean like, I don t know.
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Because it s hard at 24.
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SPEAKER_00
I asked how old you are because I thought maybe you were like in high school or something.
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SPEAKER_03
Oh my god, do I give off that vibe?
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SPEAKER_03
I m sorry.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean a little bit but also just because again like the way that you re describing the friendships it seems like, where do you hang out with these people?
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What s the situation?
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SPEAKER_03
Well, I ve been friends with him for a while.
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I mean, like, when we go to the bars and stuff, but, like, we also, like, we, like, all work out together.
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SPEAKER_03
We re just, like, I don t know, like, we re besties.
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SPEAKER_03
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_03
Okay.
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SPEAKER_03
Like, we go on, like, double dates and stuff because my boyfriend s friends with, like, the guy, but, like, we re all friends.
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I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
All right.
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SPEAKER_00
So your central conundrum is that you re friends with both of these people, but you think that the girl is controlling the guy?
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SPEAKER_03
Yes.
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And, like, I don t, like,
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And I get in the middle of everything.
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They pulled me into everything.
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Like, no matter what I say, it s like, no, you re wrong.
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And I m like, okay, then why did you ask for my opinion?
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Well, have you talked to them about, uh, Hey, I don t want to be a part of any of your bullshit.
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What do they tell you?
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Yeah.
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They re always like, okay.
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And then like two minutes later, my girlfriend, she s like, anyway, and I m like, girl, like you literally told me.
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Like, I literally told you, like, I don t want to be a part of it.
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But, like, I think it s because, like, they look at me as, like, the therapeutic echo I feel.
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And I m like, I don t get paid for this.
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You know what I mean?
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I feel like they should come on this.
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I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, it is.
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SPEAKER_00
I m happy to talk to you.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t typically, I don t enjoy, I don t like talking to people about other people s problems.
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Although these people s problems, they seem to, they, yes, it seems to these other people s problem.
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SPEAKER_00
These other people have made their problems, your problems, but I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, I m thinking about this right now.
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Let me ask you this first.
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Um, does hanging out with these people, you seemed like you hang out with them a lot.
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Does hanging out with these people make your life better?
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I mean, yes and no, but like,
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They literally broke up on the day we were supposed to go to this concert, and I was like, what the hell?
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That s not cool.
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And then they were like, no, we re still going to go.
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We re going to pretend we re dating.
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And I m like, that s weird.
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And then I was the only person who knew that.
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And then we went with four other people, and they were like, yeah, don t say anything.
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And I felt so weird.
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I was the only person who knew the information.
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You know?
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You know what?
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Let s put a pin in this.
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What s your name again?
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Bianca.
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What s your life like, Bianca?
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Do you work?
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What do you do all day?
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I m a medical assistant at a dermatology office.
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SPEAKER_03
Oh, cool.
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Are you happy outside of this situation?
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in other aspects of your life?
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Like, what do you mean?
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Outside of the situation where you were fighting with your friends, are you happy in the other aspects of your life?
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Yeah, I guess so.
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But like, it s like a bummer, because like, when all my friends like, want to hang out and stuff, it s always like, they re like, it s always like, they re like kind of the root of like the issues.
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And like, I tried it because I m a very positive person.
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Like, I want everyone to have a good time.
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I like don t disinclude anybody.
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But like, when that stuff goes on, like, it s just like, so annoying.
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And it s like, I feel like I m almost like, like a therapist, like, I literally have to talk to them all the time.
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And just kind of like, I m like, guys, like, what the hell, like, but they only talk to me about it.
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Only me.
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Like, I don t know what to do.
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Like, I feel like if I say something wrong, and they break up, and it s like, but they get back together, you know, like, I don t know what to do anymore.
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Um, you know what?
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I ve actually- I ve been, uh... Lately, I ve been anti-advice, but I have- I have thoughts cooking in my brain that I m- I m- I m kinda- I kinda wanna- I kinda wanna fire off a few of them at you if you re open to that.
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If you re open to this experimental thing I m- I- I m gonna do right now.
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Um... Uh, okay, I think if I were you...
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I would be like, Hey guys, I don t want to be in the middle of your bullshit anymore.
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And if you continue to put me in the middle of your bullshit, I m just not going to hang out with you guys anymore.
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But then give me, give me, give me what s, but then what?
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I don t know.
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Cause like, if I say like, I m not going to hang out with you guys, everyone s going to be like, what the hell?
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Like, why aren t you hanging out with them?
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And then I would say like my reasoning and they re like,
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Like, eh, like, don t worry.
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Like, I don t know.
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Like, I feel like it s like walking on eggshells with them.
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Like, especially with, like, everybody else.
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I feel bad.
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I ve known them for so long, yeah.
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Do you say, you say you re a very happy, positive, uh, person, right?
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I would say so, yeah.
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Do you, would you consider your friends to be happy, positive people?
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I hope so, yeah.
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I want them to be.
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But do you think they are?
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Like, in their own lives?
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Yes, but I I personally I don t think they should be together but like that s none of my business but like when they re making it my business Here s a you know, I this I guess why I I always struggle with
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Navigating these these relationship things, and I m not talking about just romantic ones But friendships is like this so much is out of your control Because you can t control these two people you can sit here and be like we shouldn t be together But what the fuck does that thought matter?
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I mean
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And what I what I am the reason I m saying to you I would tell them I m not gonna hang out with them anymore is because You re a happy positive person and you re you know you re 24 you you you re you know you re you have the ability to
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as an adult to venture out into the universe and try your- and it s hard and it s hard it s hard i m trying to do it i m trying to make friends
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If anyone wants to be my fucking friend.
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It s it s hard to make new friends who you feel like align With your values more than the people you ve been hanging out with forever.
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I understand why it s not a thing you want to do but I I I think
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you should give it a try.
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Because if you re hanging out with these people, and they re just constantly draining your energy, and you ve tried to talk to them about it, and you ve exhausted every resource within your control, the only leverage you really have in these relationships is to
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limit your time and You know expose yourself to some more people out there who you know you might find happier relationships and Memories and shit with right yeah, I Like I understand where you re coming from and the thing is like me and my boyfriend like we like we re very happy like I feel like
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nothing like really like happens to us like that like we re like she s very controlling like dresses him like it s like bad like and she s a couple years older than us so it s like see even the fact bianca even the fact that like this girl s even the fact that this this these two people s relationship is occupying so much space in your brain is like bothersome well i understand it s not like
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It s not like that deep when I think about it, like from an outside point of view, like I live my life day to day and I m fine.
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It s just like, there s times where like, inconvenience like my social life and we go out and stuff.
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That s why like, I want to talk about it.
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Like, I know these comments are crazy, though.
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They re like, you re controlling them.
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Like, don t worry.
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Are you reading?
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Are you reading the chat?
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Don t read.
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Don t read the chat.
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Don t read the chat.
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I m sorry.
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Some of them are so funny.
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Like I m giggling, but I don t know.
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I like
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But I don t think what people are saying like these are my two like best friends like me and my boyfriend like these are our friends and my boyfriend was friends with like the guy in a relationship like like way longer than like both of us, so I m just trying to like People please I guess I m like I understand like you can t please everybody but I m just trying to like
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Make everything work.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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I get why I get why you want to because the dream for you is that you get to just have fucking hang out with your friends, and it s a good time all the time yeah, that s Concerts and eat food, and that s a beautiful.
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It s a worthwhile goal.
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It s a beautiful human experience and the tragedy of life
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is that a lot of the times, whether or not that works out, is just not in your control.
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And you can try to make it in your control, or you can just accept that it s not.
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And you know, look at what is in your control.
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And I don t know, I don t know your whole life, so I don t know what options you have or what your tolerance is for drama and things.
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But I m just looking at this like, how do you move forward to maximize your happiness?
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And I don t know.
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I don t know shit, I m a gecko guy.
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I mean, I was bored.
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I can t believe you answered the phone, but... It s... Bianca, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Okay, a lot of them are saying I sound like... They re calling me... You are not allowed to read the chat.
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At all.
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Nobody who calls into this... Okay, I m sorry, I won t read it.
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Only I am allowed to read... Sorry, I don t know why I m... Well, it s up in front of me, and that s how I... I m sorry, I didn t mean to yell at you, Bianca.
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No, it s okay.
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I m fine.
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But, I don t know.
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I don t know.
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I love your stream, it s so fun.
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Thank you, Bianca.
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Your TikToks make me giggle.
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Thank you.
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You re the best.
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Thank you, Bianca.
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I really appreciate that.
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Of course.
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I hope you live in the friendship utopia that you desire, and I believe one day you will.
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Oh, thank God.
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One can only hope.
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Have a good night, Bianca.
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You too, bye.
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Taking your phone calls every night.
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Therapy kid goes doing it right.
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He s teaching you how to live your life.
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But he s not really an expert.