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Hello?
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Hey, what s up?
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How you doing, sir?
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I m doing good.
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What s your name, cowboy?
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My name is Julian, but you can call me Jude, bro.
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Jude, Jude, you sent me a message and you said, I m 31 and I want to talk about being a gigolo.
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For those who don t know, a gigolo, at first I thought it said juggalo.
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A juggalo is someone who s a fan of the Insane Clown Posse, but a gigolo is a male prostitute.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that s what it is.
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I mean, you re the one who said you are one.
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So I ll tell you what I am.
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I mean, I mean, I definitely do sex work for a dollar bill.
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And it s fun.
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It s enjoyable.
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But recently, I like came to the conclusion that I can t do it because I need connections with people.
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So for two and a half months, I made like 6k.
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And then it got to the point where I was like, man,
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I think I m doing this for the right reasons, but I feel like I m doing it for the wrong reasons.
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Well, let s get into that.
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What s, well, let s start with what are the, what are the right reasons in your, in your opinion?
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Money.
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Money.
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That s the only right reason to do sex work.
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I don t see if any, I mean, if you have a kink, which I do, many of them, but for the most part, it s literally just because of money.
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If I, you know, my car broke down, I live in the middle of Maine, so.
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And then what are the wrong reasons, as you say?
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Oh, uh, definitely like, you know, possibility of STD, people getting like hurt when you go to a room or, you know, you get robbed, sketchy situations, uh, you know, people doing gnarly things around you.
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So.
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It s cool.
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It s good, though, is can I ask you that is prostitute?
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You re not supposed to?
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Are you not supposed to say prostitutes?
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I think I think so.
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Like, unaligning is a new thing.
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So it s like prostitute.
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And, you know, I mean, I am a prostitute, a male prostitute.
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I didn t know how to word it.
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Okay.
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Well, I mean, as well, I, I, you re, I m asking you because you re a, you are, so I don t know what you prefer.
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Yes, sir.
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No.
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Um, well, I mean, it s cool.
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I just needed to talk with somebody outside of who I know.
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Cause I live in Maine and I don t have any family here.
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So for the most part, it s literally like just me and my dog Loki.
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Nice.
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Nice.
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That s cool.
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Um, so how d you, how d you get into this?
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Fudge, fudge, fudge, fudge.
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I actually was on Reddit trying to search for a kink of mine that I enjoy doing.
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And a husband hits me up and asks me if I want to come see his wife.
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I said, duh.
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But he flaked out, and two weeks later, he hits me up again.
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And this time, he has another girl he wants to actually hook me up with.
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But I m already talking to said girl on Messenger.
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Like, we were already planning to hook up and everything.
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So I sent her a picture that he sent me.
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I m like, bro, this real?
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And she was like, yeah, what s up?
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I said, oh my God.
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Oh my God.
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So it ended up her coming through on a Thursday.
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And that was October, September 25th, K-3rd.
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And then September 25th on, I was in a prostitute club.
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Interesting.
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So do you mainly service, service women?
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That s all I service, sir.
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Oh, you only service women.
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Mr. Gick.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So this guy, this particular guy enjoys to see, I m a man of color, you could say.
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I have pigment on my skin.
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So he enjoys seeing me with them.
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Whoa, we oh, so these are guys with so these These are guys like Okay, yes, so this so you get mainly hired by men with cuck fetishes Who want to see a black guy have sex with their wife?
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Yeah, that s um pretty much it That s exactly what it is.
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Why and now is it and it s the guys that are hitting you up mainly
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Yeah, man.
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Nine times out of 10, the females doesn t have any desires to go find a big black man to get dicked down by.
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Instead, the husband goes out and does his thing.
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I mean, they re really nice people, too.
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I mean, I ve had some come pick me up, bring me like a six-pack of beer while we re driving back to the house.
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Can I say the green leaf?
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Smell some green leaves there?
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Okay, cool.
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But for the most part, they re really freaking nice guys.
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The only weird part about it is when they stand in the corner.
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That s when I m like kind of thrown off a little bit, you know?
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But aren t the guys, like, isn t the whole thing is that they re paying you to sit in the corner?
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Oh yeah, that s what I m saying.
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They can do that.
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They can do anything they want, really, in the corner.
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It s just the lead up to that is pretty awesome too.
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But just them in the corner sometimes gets in my brain like, this ain t it.
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Now, how often is this the woman s idea, and she ll call you and be like, hey, I want you to have sex with me while my husband watches?
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Zero?
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Really?
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Like, none.
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It s definitely more of a mindset of the man wanting to give up his property type stuff, in my point of view.
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But what do I know?
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OK.
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Well, how do they typically feel about the arrangement in general?
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Um, they re really, they re really actually pretty open, pretty honest.
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They like literally tell me what they would love me to do.
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They re a wife.
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They really asked me, Hey, can you stretch her out for me?
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Can you do this?
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I meant, I meant, I meant, I meant the wives.
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Oh, oh, they love it.
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Oh, when I show up, I m actually, I m not a good looking guy.
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I m okay.
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You know, but I m also living in Maine, so it s not really like a very big pool to choose from.
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So it s give and take up here.
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Hmm.
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I assume if people are paying you for sex that you re a good-looking guy.
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How tall are you?
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Yeah, 6 3 .
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Oh my goodness.
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Okay, let me know when you re free.
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I m just a kink in Maine.
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I m actually just a bull.
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It s kind of cool.
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And it s brand new for me.
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I was in a relationship for five years before this.
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And she just left me in August.
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Just left me in August.
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And, uh, I ve been doing solo dolo for since then.
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Really?
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So your, your ex-girlfriend, how did she feel about your profession?
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Oh, no, I didn t start the profession until she left in August.
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Oh, really?
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So you re, you re still very new to this.
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Oh, no, I ve been doing kink thing for a long time.
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I just happened to be getting paid for it now.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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Um... Do you... Are you, like, trying to pursue, like, an actual relationship in addition to the work that you re doing?
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Yeah, actually, I am.
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It s a funny story.
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I actually talked to her, like, two weeks ago.
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Wait, I spoke to your girlfriend?
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Yeah, you did.
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Who was she?
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Alicia.
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She was, uh...
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No, I can t remember what she talked about, no.
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But she said she got to talk to you, and I was like, oh, that s dope.
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And today we re watching the stream, and she said, call.
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I was like, cool.
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Oh, do you remember what we talked about?
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Baby, what did you guys talk about?
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Sorry, I live in... Because if I were her, and I was calling this show, I probably would have talked about how my boyfriend is a gigolo.
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That s what I told her, I asked her, did you ask?
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Baby, I can t hear you, come here.
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Oh, addiction and sex addiction.
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I remember.
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I remember.
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Um, yes, I think we put that in the bonus episode.
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Um, well, okay.
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So, so Jude, um, how does she, how does she feel about, well, okay.
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So yeah.
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How does she feel about your profession now?
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Oh, um, because of her, I m actually kind of stopping it because I can t get out of my head that she s somewhere that I m not.
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And we,
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play together, so it s not like it s a whole entire, it s a job, but at the same time, it s now affecting my home life, and I m not cool with that, so.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Now may I ask, how much do you get paid to have sex with these people?
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$250 upfront, and then money as you go.
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Money, oh, so you get tipped based on performance.
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Yeah, but a baseline of $250.
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Okay.
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Can I ask what s the most amount you ve gotten off of one... It was a weekend.
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It was a weekend.
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I got $12 for the weekend.
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Nice.
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Three days.
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It s like 48 hours.
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And how do these people, not like you don t need to plug your website or anything, but just in general, how do they find you?
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They just find me.
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I don t put my ads up there.
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I don t sell anything.
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Guys ask.
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And then I just say, hey, but as well as that, I also do this for that.
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Have you ever showed up and you re talking to a couple and you can just tell that, like, this relationship is on its way?
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On the rocks?
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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When they re screaming, saying, thank you, Jude.
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I was like, OK, yeah, you guys are done.
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I mean, I don t know how you can get that far in your relationship to be like, yo, I want this big black man.
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down real quick, and I m gonna enjoy it.
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In my head, I m like, dog, I can t even do that.
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But I ll do it for you.
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I ll get paid for it, no problem.
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Interesting.
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Would you ever pay a fat white guy with a small penis to have sex with your girlfriend?
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Yes.
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Yes, I would.
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I mean, I ll pay to see it happen, for sure.
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Why not?
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I mean, we can get costume and everything.
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No, God no no no no I wasn t talking Or I mean, maybe I was fuck it, but anyway Okay, all right, so Jude So you said so you said you ll go in there, and they ll be couples who are fighting with each other like what they re screaming And though you ll get involved in the fight
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I mean, that d be cool.
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That d be some role-playing I ve ever done before.
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But no, they don t do that kind of stuff.
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I wish they did.
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I d be like, yo, do I need more?
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I need more of y all.
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That s cool.
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I can do that.
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Do you, but do you ever get, cause I, so the, like the escort experience or like the stripper experience, like the sex worker experience, it s a lot of it is also just like, like talking, right?
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Like there s the sex part and then there s like the, the girlfriend experience.
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Like, do you ever get out the boyfriend experience?
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Like what s, what s that?
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Exactly what they pay for.
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So the guy that,
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First hit me up, he pays me the most.
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He sends me out just to smash females, but there s some chances that I go smash cucks for, like, cuckswives for money, hotwives for money.
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So when it comes down to, like, the boyfriend, that s pretty much what the guy that, what Sammy was wanting.
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I was going to places around Maine and showing off women in see-through clothes, would you say?
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Like, very revealing clothes.
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And for each task they completed, I completed.
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So he pretty much was testing me to see what I can dom the girls to do or not to do.
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Wait, I m sorry.
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So I, so you re walking, so a guy pays you and then you and his wife.
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Can I send you a photo of my, of the, uh, what you call it?
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Of your cock?
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What do you want?
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No, no, no.
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I mean, I can do that too.
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No problem.
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But, um, no, it s the, it s the account that, uh, the guy,
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is going to just show you how much he paid me to so so often.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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You can send me a photo of this thing.
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Um, wait a minute.
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So, so, okay.
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So you, oh, you get paid.
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So a guy pays you to like take his wife on a date.
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Right.
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Is that what you re saying?
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Many, many, many women, not many, been five in the past few months, but it was like,
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At a total of five, it was like every single week, like three times a week.
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It was a business.
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I was like literally working.
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I got skinny because I was working out so much.
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Oh, this is okay.
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You sent me.
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Okay.
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You just sent me a picture of, of a receipt of seven of $6,000.
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Yeah.
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That s over the past, uh, from September 25th until November, like the last week of November or something like that.
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That s pretty cool.
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I don t know, man.
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And I don t know what to do with it because I don t deserve it.
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Like I don t deserve to be this person because I have nothing.
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Now, do you ever have you ever fallen in love?
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You ever caught feelings you ever with with a client and you re you start to.
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Oh no.
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No, I have very low empathy and pretty much no empathy.
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So really, I mean, I love I love but I just don t love like everybody else would love like
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I don t feel happiness most of the time.
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I feel angry, but at the same time, I m always cheerful.
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I m always like having a lucky quote unquote, but deep down inside, the only thing I got is anger.
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Interesting.
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What, uh, have you ever spoken to a real therapist about that?
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Uh, no, I did.
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I mean, when I was like 14, but then the dude started asking me questions that I thought was ignorant.
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So I just left their possession.
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I have a very bad problem with people telling me what I should or should not do.
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What kind of, I mean, you look, we can talk about, we can, we can talk about the fun stuff or we can talk about this stuff if you want, but what kind of ignorant questions was he asking you?
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Oh, well, see, for me, every question to me can be ignorant though, because that s just who the fuck I am, unfortunately.
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But no, ignorant questions for me is like, so why do you feel this way?
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What s going on with that?
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Like, but this is when I was 14, I was dumb in the head and I was like angry at the world in general already.
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So those questions of you guys on the day were meant absolutely nothing besides you just trying to get underneath my skin.
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So, yeah.
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So, I mean, when you say that all you have is anger, is that something that you, how old are you now?
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I m 31, sir.
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Okay.
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And then is that something you still like feel very deeply?
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Oh, yeah.
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No, I really have to just tell Alicia sometimes that, hey bro, look, today s just going to be an angry day.
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So I apologize.
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Or I just don t say anything at all that day.
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I used to be extroverted as fuck.
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Do you feel like you ve gotten any better at controlling it over the years?
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Oh, yeah, man.
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I ve only been one fight my whole life.
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I used to go to hardcore shows, though, and go down in pits and everything like that.
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You re in your Hulk wearing a sweater era of angriness.
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Actually, yeah, that s 100% what I am.
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Yo, facts.
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Pretty cool.
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Actually, I might do that.
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Okay.
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Um, I mean, does any I don t know.
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I hope I hope that see now I m self conscious that I am also asking you ignorant questions, but I m curious.
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Anyway, I m older now.
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I thought you, you know, I mean, like you, you give me your your voice.
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That apparently helps a lot of people out, man.
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I appreciate what you do.
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Like, Alicia is the one that got me onto you, bro.
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And everything s been listening.
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You re like, man, you re actually pretty smart.
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Gee,
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Um, so do you like, does that, I mean, does anything give you happiness?
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You, you have, I mean, you ve got a girlfriend, you ve got $6,000, you ve got a dog, you know?
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Oh, that s it.
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Just them.
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I don t need much of my life.
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I live in this town called LaGrange, Maine.
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It is there, seriously, population 1,200.
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And freaking, I literally live in BFE of BFE.
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Oh.
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Up here it s just either you do drugs or you go to work.
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I happen just to do my art and go to work, quote-unquote.
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Not really work, but still work.
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Do you, is this like, well, I don t know.
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I mean, it s again, it sounds like, I mean, you don t really need that much in life, right?
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I mean, you ve got, so, so, well, okay.
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So you told me now you re, you re, you re going to go straight now.
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You re going to, uh, do something else.
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Oh, no, I m going to still be kinky.
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I just not going to do it for money anymore.
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The guy ruined the kink for me, you know, like he was just making it so much.
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Like he would literally text me nonstop over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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How about broke?
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Stop.
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I can t perform for you.
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You want me to do this, that, and the third and still pick up the phone?
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Bro, just give me a GoPro strapped to me and call me fucking Sally.
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Let s go.
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That s definitely a package you got to offer on your website.
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I mean, I was trying to tell him.
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I was like, yo, put a ring camera in my room.
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We re good.
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We re golden.
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You just pop in, pop out whenever you want.
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What are you going to do for money now?
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Probably go over to men.
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You know, just push the game over.
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I wouldn t say that again.
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No, I was kidding.
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Now I m actually trying to sell my artwork and everything like that.
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But, you know, we re not going to plug that thing again.
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I used to do that myself.
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I don t really even sell my art really, but I don t want to be
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At the beginning of the year, I was working at a very big trucking company doing body work.
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And in August, my whole entire life fell apart completely.
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It went from having everything from my car, my TV, my PS5, my fucking female time, to having absolutely nothing with a dog.
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It s been a hell of a good year.
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How did you and Alicia meet?
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Dude, that is actually pretty funny.
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So she may have been living in a sober living house with the girl I was seeing at the time already.
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And kind of like met through Facebook, dating randomly, and then met up one night.
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And then that night she was like, yeah, that s it.
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You ain t seeing her no more.
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But you right.
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You right, though.
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Okay.
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I m going to pretend like I sort of understood what you just said.
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Oh, no.
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Okay.
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So Alicia was living in the same house that a girl that I was already dating was living in.
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And they didn t, and I didn t know that at first.
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And then.
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out of nowhere, Alicia says, hey, I m in touch.
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That s the girl I m seeing right now.
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I think there s a Seinfeld episode about that, right?
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Where like Jerry s, yeah.
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Well, I mean, I don t think it takes place in a sober living home, but it s like, I think Jerry s like dating a girl and then he like wants to date her roommate instead.
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Is there a Seinfeld episode about that?
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I think there is.
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I don t know if it went well for him.
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I actually end up having to do some of them.
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Well, it sounds like everything goes well for you, Jude.
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No, dude, I mean, that s what I m saying.
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I don t know why, though.
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It shouldn t, because the universe does not give, give, give.
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She definitely beats you up with a stick first.
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And this time around, it seems like she doesn t.
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She actually likes me.
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Oh, my word.
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Thank you, Mr. Universe.
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You re the shit.
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Well, um, I don t know, Jude, I don t know what your, I don t know exactly what your life has been like or what it is that s occurred that or any, just any, whatever, whatever it is that makes you feel this way.
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But, um, I mean, I, you know, I, I hope, uh, I definitely understand feeling like, uh, uh, you don t deserve any good things in life.
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And I, uh, I m no expert in unlearning that, but I hope that you re able to.
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Yeah, I m getting better at it.
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I mean, for me, it s more like a prideful thing.
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I don t feel like a working man by putting my dick in somebody s life.
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So I think I just had to give my story to somebody that actually would, first of all, be intrigued or therefore just like not give me advice about what I m doing, just actually just listen for a second and be like, you know what?
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It s pretty awesome, but low-key.
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How do you feel about it?
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That s all that I need in a therapist cosplay.
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Way too much money.
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I don t have EBT.
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You know, I m good.
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Thanks, guys.
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You should see if you can find a therapist that will give you free session in exchange for having sex with his wife.
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You think so?
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Oh, what the fuck was I going to say?
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Oh, yeah.
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Before we go, what kind of art do you do?
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I m curious.
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I do street art, sir.
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Oh, cool.
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Like graffiti.
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You re like Banksy.
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I wish, man.
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That dude is a legend.
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I mean, people say that I m really good at what I do, and I think all my shit is garbage, so.
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Either way.
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My shit s up, son.
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Um, do you have a tag?
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What s your, like, what do you tag as?
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S-A-S-O.
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SASO.
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Stanford.
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Yeah, S-A-S-O.
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S-A-S-O.
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Stanford.
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Somehow Always Standing Out.
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Somehow Always Standing Out.
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Okay, well, if I m ever in, uh, Maine.
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Maine s one of the states I ve never been to.
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If I m ever in Maine, I will look, I will look under the underpasses.
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Yeah, I ve never had a reason to go, but I ve heard it s nice.
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Hey, they would love you up here if you do a show.
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You got a lot of viewers for Maine itself, bro.
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For real, for real.
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Okay, I ll try to make it up there.
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Oh, and can I say one more thing?
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Yeah, for sure.
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Hey, Alicia.
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I love you.
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You re pretty cool.
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And I ll see you in like two seconds while I m walking in the room.
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But as well as, Maine s actually not as bad as everybody thinks it is.
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Like, I m gonna tell this from a person of color.
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Don t believe what you hear on the TV and news about society.
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It s not that bad, guys.
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Do people, is Maine, are you saying like, is Maine known for being like racist?
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I mean, low key they say it is, and I m like, bro, I live in the country country, bro, and they ain t talk to me, no, but I m also 6 3, 275, up here, fuck around and find out.
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So, it could be that, or, because I ve heard stories that people like, the first Ku Klux Klan march was in Milo, which is only 20 miles away from here.
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Really see I guess I associate like I m the I associate like hardcore racism like in the south Like Maine is the most north most I never thought about that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I live in Virginia Beach, Florida, Japan, Guam, Texas, Missouri so I ve had a life of wonders
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Nice, man.
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Well, keep doing your thing.
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I hope you find whatever you re looking for in this universe.
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And I hope that you feel as though you deserve it.
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I don t know.
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I don t know if I don t know.
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I m waxing philosophical here, but I don t know if anyone deserves anything.
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I think you.
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I don t know if anyone deserves.
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That s why I don t feel like I don t you know, the whole like, well, you know, the whole like you re supposed to like positive affirmation of like, I deserve happiness.
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I deserve this.
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I deserve that.
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I don t like I have trouble feeling like, well, why does anyone deserve anything?
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But you can you can also say that about negative stuff, right?
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Like,
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Cause you can apply that thinking to like, oh, I don t, I, I, I don t deserve to be unhappy.
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Cause why, if no one deserves anything, then why would I deserve negative stuff?
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Exactly.
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And for me, it s like, um, for me, I think the world, I have bad juju tattooed on my forearm.
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And, um, people are like, what s that for?
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I m like, cause everybody in the world has bad juju with them at all time, no matter what.
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I just happen to wear mine on my sleeve.
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So I know it s always there.
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Well, yeah.
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Good luck.
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Gak bless ya.
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Take care, man.
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Take care, man.
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I think I found myself a new theme song.
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Let me see.
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Do I have any post-call thoughts?
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I don t know yet, the whole idea of like uh... I ve played around with the idea of affirmations before.
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I ve never played around with any like, I deserve such and such affirmations because I really don t feel like...
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I don t know if anyone deserves anything and you could say that negative or positive right because like I have so many fucking Privileges in my life.
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You know, I m I m born in a I was born you know, not Struggling super hard and in a third world country or anything like that, you know I can eat food and sleep in a bed every night and it s like do I
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Do I, like, deserve those things any more than the people who don t have them?
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I don t think so.
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But I shouldn t, like, hate myself for any privileges that I have in my life, and I don t think I should actively feel as though I deserve pain.
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But I do have trouble accepting the idea that, you know, I for some reason am entitled to some kind of goodness in my life.
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I think a lot of that stuff is kind of...
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Random like when anytime Like I don t know if you like see somebody struggling on the street or something.
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It s really I always anytime I see that I m like there s not there s no real reason why I m me and they are them I don t think it s because I Cosmically deserve to eat food more than anyone else so I have trouble with that affirmation, but I
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Don t know Yeah, whatever It s cool.
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I m grateful.
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It s cool I get to eat food and live and stuff like I don t know some people died when they were like 14 And I didn t did I did they did they deserve?
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Death No, did I deserve life?
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Not just probably just as much as they deserved death like no, you know, but I don t know I m just a gecko talking into a phone
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Hello?
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Hi, Lyle.
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How are you?
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Hi, I m good.
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What s your name?
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Good.
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I m Mac.
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Mac.
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What s going on, Mac?
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, not much.
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I ve been a longtime listener, longtime watcher.
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Yeah.
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I have a couple of things that I could talk about if you want.
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I would love to hear these things.
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Tell me the things.
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All right.
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OK, well, I m a lesbian.
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Um, my last relationship, uh, ended pretty spectacularly.
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If you d like to hear about it.
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Spectacular.
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Really quick.
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How do you feel about that Drake line where he s like, you said you re a lesbian girl, me too.
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Do you not like that?
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No, I think it s pretty funny, honestly.
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Cause I agree.
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Women are awesome.
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Cool, cool, cool, cool.
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You said ended spectacularly.
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Now, a spectacle can be good or bad, right?
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Is it a good spectacle or a bad spectacle?
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I mean, a little bit of both.
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I guess to start it off, we were together for like eight years since high school.
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And she was always bisexual and whatever, but
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Uh, she was the bipolar maniac who had convinced me that she was friends with dudes that she was actually fucking.
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Uh, she moved me into her new boyfriend s house.
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I paid their bills.
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No idea.
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No clue.
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Really?
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She, she got you.
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She like conned you into moving in with her and this guy that she was fucking and paying her bills.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So they met at work.
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Um, and then she introduced me to him as a friend and then their friendship kind of evolved into them canoodling on the back burner.
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And yeah, she can miss me one day, like, Hey, our, our, uh, lease is going to be up soon.
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We can move in with my friend to save some money.
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And I m like, okay, cool.
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Whatever.
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And then, you know, we go on our merry way.
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I had an inkling something was going on, but whatever then few months down the line he comes home fucking wasted and Still the beans, but he s the secret boyfriend.
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So that was pretty awesome.
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Holy shit.
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So, how did you react to that information?
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I like to tell people that I could have either I
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committed a double homicide, or I break both my hands.
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So I broke both my hands.
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You broke both your hands?
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Yeah, yeah, instead.
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SPEAKER_00
Punching really hard things tends to break bones.
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So it was it was just like a gut like anger reaction punching walls.
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Yeah.
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And like now we re adults.
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So when you re an adult, you can catch a charge and that s not really worth it.
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How did they.
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So if the idea was that you would move in with them to save money, how did you end up paying their bills?
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So I. So my ex-partner and I were in a situation where she would stay home and pursue her own business, like doing art and stuff like that.
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And then I would go to work and yeah.
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And so, but then like, okay, like, like rent, like, did you, like, you paid like a third of the rent?
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So at that house, I was paying two thirds.
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Um, and then when I lived with her and she wasn t working, she would just kind of provide what she could with her art.
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And then I would take care of the rest.
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Cause I was like, well, it s the middle.
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Cause at that time it was when COVID started.
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So working retail kind of sucked because it s like, well,
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you bring COVID home and then both of us are out of commission or you stay home and I go work to make money.
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So Oh, goddamn.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it was pretty fun.
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But I m an extract technician.
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Now.
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I ve got a great career.
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I ve got a great girlfriend.
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And yeah, shit s on the up and up.
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Oh, wonderful.
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Wonderful.
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Wonderful.
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So how long ago was all this?
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Uh, this was about two years ago now.
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Okay, and I did you break up with with your girlfriend immediately?
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Yes, yes, I I moved out I actually moved all of my stuff out of her house with that broken hand Moved in with my family because had nowhere to stay and Yeah, crazy thing too.
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She thought that she would keep my cat from me Saying that all well
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You can t just come in here and take everything.
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And it s like, well, first of all, it s all mine.
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You didn t really buy it.
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Second of all, he s my cat.
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She tried to keep the fucking cat, man.
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Yeah, she has her own cat.
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And then we bought a cat together.
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And she said, no, he s he s my cat, too.
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And I was like, well, if you pay me back for everything, then sure.
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And lo and behold, I received him like that.
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Um, I m looking at, at, uh, these texts that you ve sent me.
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You ve sent me a few texts here.
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You said, um, just real quick.
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I just, this is just one thing that you texted me that, uh, I want to get some clarification on.
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You just sent a text that says Tony Hawk pro skater.
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What does that mean?
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SPEAKER_00
I think at the time I was playing Tony Hawk pro skater and on stream you had asked.
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So I said, Tony Hawk pro skater.
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Okay, are you good?
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Not really.
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I ve played since it was on GameCube, but I have lived vicariously through the game.
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Always loved skateboarding, extreme sports, but I m too much of a pussy.
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Now, you said that you also said my life is now better than ever without my my ex.
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Now, tell me tell me more about your life now.
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Um, well, I have a great career.
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Uh, I have great friends.
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I mean, when shit like that happens, you really do see, uh, you know, who s around you, who really supports you.
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SPEAKER_00
And unfortunately when everything happened, like it was, it was the kind of situation where you ve been together for so long that you re known as a unit, right?
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SPEAKER_00
So then you meet people, you have friends as, as a couple and whatever.
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SPEAKER_00
And then, you know, when everything happened, it s like, you have a couple of people who reach out and they re like, Hey, how are you doing?
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SPEAKER_00
How s it going?
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And then there s a couple of other people who you never hear from again.
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And it s like, well, OK, you can either get my side or not.
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But I mean, it s no shit off my ass.
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Everything s all good.
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And then HVAC I saw um dude I remember There s once I was really struggling with doing this podcast That which happens time to time and I remember I saw I was like taking a walk And I saw a guy driving an HVAC van and I was like I guess I could do I bet I could do HVAC I
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, really, depending on where you re from, like you can get into it pretty easily.
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It s a diploma program and you can do HVAC on the side.
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But like, I m in Canada, so the province that I m in, it s a standardized trade, so you have to go to training.
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SPEAKER_00
But it s cool because you get to do like, you do the electrician s job, you do sheet metal job, you do refrigeration, you do a little bit of plumbing.
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So it s all kind of catch all.
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Um, what part of Canada are you in?
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I m in Alberta, Alberta.
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I, you know, um, I want to go to, I want to do a show in Alberta.
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I keep, I feel like there s so many people who like, I see, I see like come to Alberta.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know if that s the new come to Brazil meme, but okay.
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SPEAKER_01
That s in the middle.
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SPEAKER_01
That s like, that s like in the middle of Canada, right?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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We re just off the West coast.
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Okay, I ve only ever been to Toronto and Vancouver which are like the two most American Canada places Yes, yes, whenever a band says that they re doing a Canadian tour.
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It s either Vancouver or Toronto.
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There s no Okay, I m gonna look into Alberta where d you meet your new girlfriend Where everyone who is under a
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the new world order does on Tinder.
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Tinder.
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Now I thought Tinder is Tinder s like phasing out a little bit.
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Everyone s talking about like a hinge and bumble and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01
Are people still Tindering?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, as a lesbian, that s kind of hard, honestly, cause like on bumble and hinge and all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_00
Um, and even Tinder, Tinder is the worst for it.
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SPEAKER_00
There s a lot of people searching for a quote unquote unicorn.
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which is a couple looking for a girl who s into girls and guys.
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And some of them don t explain that in the bio.
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And then some of them do, where it s like you start talking to a girl and then she s like, oh yeah, my boyfriend.
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And you re like, fuck, that s not what I m into.
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You re scrolling down.
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Like, I assume someone who does that, it s like, you re scrolling down their profile, and everything s great, and they save the boyfriend.
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The boyfriend is like in the background of the last picture.
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And it s like, that s the big reveal.
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Yes, or it s on the bottom, right on the bottom, where it says, seeking a third.
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It s like, oh, I love going out, I love doing this.
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And then on the bottom, it s looking for a unicorn.
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Right, burying the lead, as they say.
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OK, so you met on Tinder.
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That s cool.
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Have you ever done any of the like... Can girls go on Grindr or is that for gay guys only?
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I think Grindr is for gay guys only.
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I mean, if you re a trans woman, you might be able to.
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I love the way that you said Grindr with a Canadian accent.
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Can you do that again?
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Grindr?
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That was, that was good.
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Um, what s, what s the, is there a lesbian grinder?
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Uh, yeah, it s called she or her.
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I can t remember.
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Um, have you, have you done that one?
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Yeah, I actually matched with my girlfriend on that app as well.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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Double dipping.
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Double dipping.
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Rock and roll.
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Um, what s, what s her deal?
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What s she do?
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Uh, she s a professional, works in healthcare.
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Um, now does, like, I assume you keep no tabs on the old girlfriend, you don t know what her and that guy are doing, do you?
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Her and that guy are probably searching for a fucking unicorn on Hinge.
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Honestly, probably.
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A unicorn to have sex with us and pay our light bill as well.
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Exactly.
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Precisely, Lyle.
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Precisely.
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No, I have a few people.
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Like, she used to follow my family and stuff on social media, so I would kind of get wind of that, which I thought was kind of weird.
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And then, like, she ll ask old mutual friends if I ve been up to anything or whatever, but... Yeah, no, I have her blocked on everything.
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I hope she hears me here having my best life.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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Rock and roll.
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Um, well, let me, let me see here.
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I want to end this with you sent me so many texts.
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I want to see here.
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Um, wait a minute.
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I m honestly shaking right now.
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This is crazy, man.
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No, it s true.
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You know what?
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No, it was just, it was all of them was about the acts except for the one that was about Tony Hawk.
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I thought you had a story of meeting Tony Hawk, but, but that s okay too.
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Um, this was, this was also a, uh, an equally juicy story.
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Yeah, did you have any other questions about it?
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You know what I ll do, does the chat have any further questions?
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I ll open it to the chat real quick, we can take a couple questions from the chat.
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Let me see here, do I have any further questions?
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So the guy just wasn t paying any of the bills?
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So the thing is, he worked, so I work a full-time
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like big boy job.
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I m an HVAC technician, so I make decent money.
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He was working a part time retail job, so he made probably about a third or less than I did at the time.
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Starlab91 says, What is lesbian dating like?
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Oh, that s loaded.
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It sucks, to be honest.
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Uh, it s hard to find people who, how do I put this?
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Um, there s a lot of girls who are kind of gay for pay or gay for play, if that makes sense.
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Like they re into it for the acknowledgement from men who they would like to sleep with, as opposed to actually being interested in women.
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Um, so that can be kind of hard.
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Um, let me see.
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I m not.
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obviously a homophobe.
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However, I will not date trans people just for the simply of like, I know what I m into.
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I m into a vagina and boobs and a feminine woman.
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And it doesn t bother me if you re trans or how you re expecting to show yourself or whatever, but it s just, just not my cup of tea.
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What do you, what did you mean when you said gay for pay?
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Like, like there s girls on there being like, being like, Hey, I ll go on a date with you if you Venmo me type of shit.
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Uh, well kind of just like for the benefits of having a woman on woman relationship, if that makes sense.
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Uh, gifts, uh, dates, uh, Oh, they want you to be like, they want you to sugar mama them.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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It s the sugar, sugar mama version of sugar daddy.
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Well, um, what s your name one more time?
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Oh, Mac.
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Mac, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Uh, keep on keeping on.
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Shit gets a lot better.
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Call in and he might answer.
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Beautiful, enjoy all the wonders that Alberta has to offer.
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I hope you suck them all up.
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That s a play on the HVAC thing as well.
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Okay, I m gonna stop talking.
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Thank you, Mac.
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Yeah, thanks, Lyle.
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Have a good day.
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You know what, I m gonna make my own all-gecko dating app.
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I m gonna call it Gex.
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match with hot single reptiles in your area.
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Snakes are on the UI.
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There s a little box.
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You identify what reptile.
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This is going to be an app for scaleys, you know, furries.
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Furries are like people who dress up in animal costumes, typically mammals like foxes and dogs and shit.
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But I want to do one for people who dress up in reptile outfits.
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You identify
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what reptile you are like i m a i m a gecko searching for a crocodile also open to snakes and then you can have all kinds of weird slimy reptile sex and it costs you have to give me twenty dollars and i ll put your profile at the top
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Let me know if there s any venture capitalists out there listening to this podcast that want to give me $100 to do this idea.
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Let me know.
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Hey guys, it s Lyle here.
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I m about to do some ad reads, but if you re a premium member of the podcast, you will not hear them.
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Premium members, or Gek Legends, as I like to call them, get access to every episode of this podcast ad-free.
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They also get bonus episodes, recordings for my live shows, members-only streams, and they support my ability to keep doing this show for a long time,
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do it in cooler, more interesting places, and also eat food, which is important.
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If any of that sounds cool to you, you can go to therapygecko.supercast.com to become a GECK legend, or find the link in the episode description.
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Alright, let s do some ads.
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Brad, you didn t have to give me your full name and, uh, where you live.
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This is the first time I ve ever called in, so I didn t know how else to make the connection.
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Wait a minute, you know another thing.
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I know exactly who you are, Brad Page from St.
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Louis.
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Yep, yep.
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That s why.
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Alright, I m gonna give some context to some people.
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By the way, this is gonna be great because, let me tell you, I m gonna tell you something, Brad Page.
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I forget people s names the second after they tell them to me.
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If you ve listened to this podcast enough, you ve heard me do that several times.
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So, people just think I m a fucking Alzheimer s ridden stoner that doesn t remember anything.
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But I remember exactly who you are, Brad Page from St.
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Louis.
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You came up at one of my, uh, you came up at my live show at St.
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Louis and you told the story of, I want to say you re, uh, you told the story of your father finding your fleshlight.
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That s right.
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I remember that because you were a cool guy and people think I don t remember things, but I remember, I remember a lot actually.
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Well, what I wanted to tell you recently what s happened at my work where I, you know, recently started about, you know, in January.
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I, how do I put this?
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At my, at like a general kind of training room, there s the trashcan.
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And I had plans one day to go, you know, to like a soccer game or something afterwards.
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So I had a whole change of clothes.
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I brought, as one does, another pair of underwear, right?
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And they were old.
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So I was like, you know, I m going to throw this away.
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But then I was having lunch in that training room and one of my employees came in to throw something away.
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And she was like, she looked in, she goes, there are drawers in this trash can.
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And I, you know, at that point I didn t really know what to do.
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So I was like, oh, but, um,
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So, you know, that s just kind of the weirdness follows me everywhere.
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Brad, I, you know, you have all these stories, okay?
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You told me the story on stage at St.
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Louis about your dad finding your flashlight.
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Now you re telling me a story about somebody finding your boxers.
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Just be who you are, Brad.
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Why are you so ashamed at everybody finding your personal items?
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I m not ashamed.
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I just, I just, I just find it, you know, I don t know.
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I just feel like,
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This stuff just happened to me.
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Everyone masturbates.
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Most people wear underwear.
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You re fine.
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You re a part of, you re a normal person.
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I mean, I, you know, there s worse things for people to find in your garbage.
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How was your tour, by the way?
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How was my tour?
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Yeah, I, I ve been following on Instagram.
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It s awesome to see all the places you were at.
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Yeah, it is, man.
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It s really cool.
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Um, I m done now.
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I m back.
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I m ready to, um, you know,
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Be depressed I m gonna try and not to last night yesterday
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Not yesterday, on the Eric Andre stream, somebody called, I don t know if you watched it, but somebody called in to tell me that I seem sad a lot.
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And so I m gonna work on that now.
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Because, you know, when I m on tour, I get a little sad when I m on tour, but I feel like I m primed to get sad now.
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And I m gonna try to work on not doing that so that, you know, people don t call me out on it as much.
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I feel like you must be, I mean, you wouldn t continue doing it if you didn t, you know, get joy out of it.
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No, I don t- I don t know if that s true.
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I don t know if that- Well, there s- Here s the problem, is that- is that, um... I get joy out of it sporadically enough.
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Um... Do you know what I m saying?
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No, I get that.
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Like, some days I get joy out of it, and other days it s a chore.
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Um... But...
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You know, it s a- it s- I- I- but I ve thought about this a lot, Brad Page.
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I don t think- and I don t even say this to be like, oh, I don t have anything better to do, but I don t think I have anything better to do.
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Like, this is the best thing I could be doing with my life and time.
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Like, I don t- like, when I m...
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80 years old this is one.
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This is a thing that keeps me going doing this it s like when I m 80 years old There s no way I m gonna.
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I m gonna look back at you know all the time that I ve spent you know interacting with and talking to all these different people from all over the world, but whether it s in person or on the phone and Regret that time you know I ll always look at this as a great opportunity
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use of time and so I there s there s a weird sense of security that I have while I m recording these where I m like you know of all the things I could be doing of all the you know convenience stores I could be robbing or marketing jobs I could be doing for dentists Facebook pages I think this is the best
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of a thing I could do.
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I mean, I don t know, there s a lot of... There s a lot of things to do in the world, and you re gonna get sick... Whatever it is you do, it will eventually become a chore of some kind, you know?
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Whether it s traveling the world, or getting married to the person you love, or any other kind of, you know, awesome thing that you could do.
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Eventually it ll become a chore at some point, but...
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I have I have I have faith that I you know for however much longer I do what I m doing which I hope is a long time I ll look back at it and go that was a good that was a good use of a life You know, I mean, hopefully I do lots more things with my life after this.
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I m not that old but um, yeah, that s how I do is that it s not just your your podcast ranges from like, you know people that
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I m not trying to say this to discredit, but I think there are some listeners that, more like me, take it for kind of the comedic, where sometimes there is some humor to it, but there s also a lot of people that just love the guidance and kind of conversations that you have, like what you just said.
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So you really have a wide range of people that listen for whatever the reason may be,
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And also, I mean, one thing I really like about you, Gek, is that, like, you and I, the people that you have on your shows are people that I have always been huge fans of, like Tim Aheydecker, Eric Andre, like, just, it s, and I only think of what, how I would feel getting to meet people that are, you know, huge icons, I guess you could say.
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So that s awesome for you as well.
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Yeah, those guys are cool guys, man.
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It really was an honor.
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If my 13-year-old, 15, 16, 17-year-old self knew I was doing all that, his dick would explode.
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It s really cool.
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I look at those things and I m grateful for them and I think they re awesome, but I also am like...
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I don t know it s weird like I look at them like oh man that was a really cool I take a second right and I m like ah man you know that was a really cool moment that would blow the dick off my you know 17 year old self and and all that stuff and and I m grateful for it in the moment I m very excited and and it s awesome but then I have this thing where I m like I don t I don t like to I live either like if I live either I want to say I live
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Half the time in the future and half the time in the present.
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I don t want to s- eh, maybe.
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Maybe I m being a little more generous about the present, but um... I don t like- I m always like, well, what the fuck have I done with my life today?
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You know, like even if I have an accomplishment like finishing a tour or getting somebody I really look up to on the stream, I m always like, um...
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For sure.
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Um, and maybe that s why that woman on the Eric stream told me that I seemed sad.
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I really took her, cause she was cool.
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I really took, I mean, and she also told me she listens to the podcast.
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So I m like, well, if a person that listens to me talk for multiple hours a week, um, you know, I, I, I have, I have faith in what they have to say about my character and emotions.
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I, I, I respect their point of view.
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And so if she says that I m sad, I take that to heart.
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So I m working on that.
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But like I said, I mean, that s just one person of the thousands and thousands of listeners.
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I mean, you know.
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Yeah.
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Well, that s I really mean that.
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I mean, I can I know you have just like so much, you know, social media and everybody like me that just loves all your content and just everything that that you put out.
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Thanks, Brad.
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You know what I m going to do?
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I m going to make a gecko butthole flashlight just for you, and then you can gift that one to your dad as a present instead of him finding it in the trash.
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I m sure he d really appreciate that.
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Thanks, Brad.
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You re a cool guy.
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You had a very memorable story that night.
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That whole night in St.
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Louis was really fun.
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Well, thanks, man.
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Thanks for letting me rant to you.
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I appreciate it.
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I feel like I don t get to rant myself that often, so thanks for giving me the time.
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You got it.
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Brad, is there anything you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Just, I don t know, support Lyle the Gecko.
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You know, it s the content that keeps giving back.
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It s the type of stuff whenever you have a rough day or just might be on your way to work and need a quick listen.
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I don t know.
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I think everybody just needs those little outlets of things that never, there s never one show that s the same as the other, but you never know what you re going to get.
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And he s just a great guy.
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Cause like not many people that would go on tour actually would talk to me like this.
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So I really appreciate it.
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Thanks, Brad.
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You re fucking cool.
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I wish the people at home could see what you look like because it s something about... I remember how you looked.
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I don t just remember... I remember everything about you.
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You looked a little bit like... I was about to say Peter Griffin from Family Guy, but you re not... You were skinnier than that.
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Well, I appreciate that.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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I love you, Brad.
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Thanks for calling.
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All right.
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Talk to you later.
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Brad Page is a fucking legend.
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Hello folks, it s Lyle here.
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That s the end of-
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this episode, but get this, I m releasing a bonus episode this week.
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That s right, an entire extra hour of the podcast that you can listen to by becoming a premium member of Therapy Gecko over at therapygecko.supercast.com.
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Supercast subscribers get access to bonus episodes, they get a completely ad-free podcast feed of the regular show, they get recordings from my live shows, members-only streams, and they help support my ability to continue doing this podcast.
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So, here s a clip from this week s members-only bonus episode.
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You texted me and you said that you work at a company that sells chicken that is known for being holy, but there is some stuff going on that people do not see.
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Now I have in my head what chicken company this sounds like.
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So tell us more about what goes on at this chicken company.
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Most of the people I work with do like cocaine and heroin and the bad drugs.
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Man, you know what s crazy, though?
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I ll say this about Chick-fil-A.
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I know we re talking about Chick-fil-A.
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The crazy thing about Chick-fil-A is that they ve managed to keep a sta- and this is just free advertising for Chick-fil-A.
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Fuck it.
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They ve done horrible things, by the way.
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Also, Chick-fil-A.
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They ve managed to keep a fantastic standard of quality.
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If you want to hear this full conversation, you can sign up to become a premium member at therapygecko.supercast.com or find the link in the episode description.
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That s therapygecko.supercast.com.
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All right.
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I have nothing else to say.
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goes on the line taking your phone calls every night therapy kid goes doing it right he s teaching you how to live your life but he s not really an expert