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So we just want to let you know that Danny DeVito, who directed the movie Matilda, the great smash hit from in the 1990s, is going to be in concert with the New Jersey Symphony March 22nd at the State Theater in New Brunswick.
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And it s a beautiful theater.
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I played there before.
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There s a live orchestra, the movie with a beautiful print, and you ll see it live.
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And then Danny will narrate like he did in the movie live.
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He ll be there.
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So March 22nd in New Brunswick, the State Theater, Danny DeVito.
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Dana, this one has one of our old favorites who we both had worked with, Danny DeVito.
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He was on SNL with you and me.
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He did my very first, I m pretty sure, Gap Girls.
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That one only had me and Sandler in it, but he played our boss, and I know he did Hans and Franz with you.
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Hans and Franz and Church Lady, and he s a five-time host, so he s part of that club, loves Saturday Night Live.
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He s about as likable a person as you could ever spend time with.
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There s something about him that is so sweet and fun.
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We go over his Penguin character, Batman, that was so brilliant and hilarious, the Tim Burton movie, Batman Returns, I believe.
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Oh yeah, we talk about his early days, One Flow of the Cuckoo s Nest, Romancing the Stone.
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He had so many big, big things.
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Twins.
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And of course, we get into Twins, Taxi.
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Always Sunny.
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Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
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Yeah, it s quite a career.
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The dude has done a lot and he produces and he directs.
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We just talk about a lot of stuff with him and the guy is a good talker and he knows a lot about New York and when he started and he gets into all those crazy stories about Jim Carrey, Andy Kaufman, going to see Andy Kaufman do stand-up.
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Yeah, a lot of fun stuff.
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So this is a fun one and have a good time with him.
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But I was just thinking, doing this in the 1960s, we might have waited for Yul Brynner to come on.
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That would have been fun.
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Yul Brynner would be the first guest.
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Podcast guest in 1965.
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We d follow him up with Steve McQueen.
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Yeah, you put him on.
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He does a little dance.
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does the accent.
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He talks about doing the jump, but he didn t really do it in The Great Escape.
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Didn t really, yeah.
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All the stuff that he does.
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I had an apartment in New York once in the 60s.
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I got on the bulletin board of the American Academy of Dramatic Arts where I went to school.
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And I was looking for apartments.
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Everybody was always scrounging for
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no money, but we had no money.
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So they had this bulletin board anyway.
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I went to an address and it was in the weirdest place was on Madison Avenue in the, in like 57th or eighth street, six 45 was the address.
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I remember.
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And yeah.
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Wow.
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And, uh, I walk in the door, it s a really shitty building.
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Now it s all, you know, totally, totally turned into what New York is, you know?
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And I,
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I go in the building and the first thing I saw was a giant picture of Buell Brenner.
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And it was a little shitty, yeah, a little shitty hallway like kind of thing.
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And anyway, it worked out because I got the apartment.
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It was like the second flight up.
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It had an elevator actually in the building, but very, very, very, very old school.
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And of course, it was 64 or something like that.
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So what was your rent?
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Do you remember your rent?
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Yes.
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$50 a month.
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$50 a month.
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And it was a one bedroom apartment and the bedroom was a living room, bedroom kind of situation.
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It had a nice bathroom and a kitchen.
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And the bedroom had windows that looked out over the tops of
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of buildings in New York.
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So it was like one of those.
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It was like if you were doing a play or a movie about New York and you said, like, build me a outside, like what the cyclorama would look like or today with what you would put in in, you know, the background of your movie.
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It was all the exhaust pipes, and the tops of buildings, and railings, and all that.
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It looked like you could do a West Side Story on the roofs.
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Well, did people hang out of their windows going, hey, what s with the fucking noise over here?
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No, no, they weren t doing that.
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It wasn t enclosed.
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If there were buildings that went up,
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Because in that area, at that time, it was just a top.
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So you had a great panorama of looking east.
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But no, you didn t see a river or anything.
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I was on Madison Avenue.
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But to actually have that address at that time was amazing, fucking crazy, because
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I put these other glasses, I see better far away.
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That s a great right in the heart of Midtown, right?
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Yes.
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Right in the heart.
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And the thing about it is that at that time, a lot of people don t know this Madison Avenue and fifth Avenue were two way streets.
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I mean, you guys weren t even born.
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Uh, I, I go back.
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I remember Yul Brynner.
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I look, I mean, David doesn t know Yul Brynner.
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Oh yeah.
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I remember the King and I was a poster, but if you imagine Madison Avenue being a two way street and, uh, you know, you know, New York very well.
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And fifth Avenue also, I used to walk up from 30th and go to 57th or eighth where it lived.
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And it was a two-way street.
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It was really, there weren t any horses and carts, though.
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You d be happy to hear.
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You weren t that far back?
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It wasn t that far.
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Oh, good.
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All right.
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We re in the modern- Were you walking around with Casting Call magazine?
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I was doing what we used to get was show business and, and what would they call backstage?
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You remember?
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Backstage.
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You guys did it all the way.
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It was just, we d buy, I would, you know, it was never in the magazine.
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We d buy these magazine, these papers that came out once a week, show business and
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and backstage, and in there, there would be all the casting that was going on.
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And we would, you know, we would go to, on the corner of, I think it was 47th and 7th was Howard Johnson s.
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And everybody would meet in there.
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It was like, without you going in, you know, take up space and have coffee and read the,
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To see what was going on.
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Danny, did you ever find when you auditioned for these things at the beginning, I found this, that you would audition and then you would hear through the grapevine, they already have offers out to stars, but they re just looking for backups.
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It s always the same case.
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It s been that since the beginning of time and the other thing about like i m talking about auditioning for.
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Off off broadway off broadway.
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regional theater, anything that you could get.
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And, you know, sometimes you get lucky and get an audition at the Public, you know, and
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you know, get a tiny part in Shakespeare in the Park, you know, not literally a spear carrier, but you might have a few lines like I played once I got, I played the doctor in the Mary Weiser, the doctor s servant, sorry, in the Mary Weiser Windsor, you know, and the best, those were the best shows to get because
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They literally paid, man.
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Oh, that was like you would wind up with one hundred and ninety something dollars a week in in those, uh, in a Joe Papps, you know, it was a different contract.
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You know, no strike needed there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Four months of rent.
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Off Broadway was great, man.
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Off Broadway was sixty eight dollars a week.
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Seventy dollars a week.
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That s what I made on SNL.
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And if SNL didn t exist then, did it?
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Did Lorne Michaels exist?
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Well, Lorne Michaels always existed.
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He was a teenager.
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And he still exists.
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There is no one.
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When did SNL start?
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When did SNL start?
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That s a good question.
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75.
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It was like 70 something.
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75.
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75, the 50th is next year.
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Yeah.
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anniversary.
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Yeah, so I yeah, that s so 75.
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I was already in California by then.
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I came I gone through off Broadway and all those things earlier.
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And
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and, you know, did Children s Theater in Massachusetts.
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I ve done, you know, did all that kind of stuff.
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And then I got lucky in 1971-ish, or two around there, and I got a part off Broadway.
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and played Martini and Cuckoo s Nest.
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Then I stayed in that play for almost a year.
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It ran at the Mercer Arts Center.
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That was cool.
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uh, then Milos saw it and everybody saw it.
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And I got lucky.
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He got a, you know, Milos.
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And then I got the movie and then after the movie opened, I moved out.
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Wait, Danny, California.
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My, my question was when you do a play, you re not guaranteed a part in the movie, are you?
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No, you re not guaranteed anything in this.
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There are businesses.
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You must know this.
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It s not, there s no, there are no guarantees.
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There s no anything, you know.
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Yeah, I mean, once in a while, like for instance, you could imagine like Brando giving a performance like he did in Streetcar and then, you know, you ve gotta be, you know, you have to have your head in the sand to not cast him in the movie, so.
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Right.
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Same thing with, you know, Vivian.
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They re not gonna get someone from The Bachelor.
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And they re not going to like, yeah, he s going to be the first choice.
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Yeah, I starred in Hans and Franz the musical.
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Go ahead.
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I want to hear more about Hans and Franz the musical.
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Hans and Franz the musical.
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What I was gonna ask you, Danny, is a philosophical question.
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Usually when people have their struggling years, struggling years, and then have hyper superstar success, which I m gonna put you in that category, they look back at those early years and go, those were some of the best days of my life.
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Do you feel that or did it suck when you look back on the struggling years?
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Well, I never, I don t, first of all, I don t, I mean, unless I m doing something like talking to,
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you guys like or something, you know, you don t think about that as much, but you do think like, you know, uh, those days were struggles, but not, you know, not the best.
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They were not the, those were the days.
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Uh, uh, I, I think the toughest part about that getting started was, you know, like you guys got started, like when you, you know, you, you,
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you hit television, I don t know what your history is, but how much you did before I met you, when I did the church lady, you were so good.
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You were there, you were there.
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I was there, I was there.
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Well, you hosted a couple of times, just so funny.
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And when I did that drum solo in the dress, you were egging me on, and that was my best drum solo.
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on television.
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There you go.
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You see you have to the coach.
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You were good.
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I had 10 years of anonymity before I got to know David.
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David got a movie right out of high school.
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But I know.
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But then I Danny, thank you for asking.
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I did a Police Academy movie, Police Academy for the good one.
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And I and then I came back and turned something down.
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I thought I was kind of a big deal.
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And then I lost all my heat for three years and had to grind it back.
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And it s so fucking sickening to even think about, but it all worked out.
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But like you were saying in the beginning, when you were struggling, I think like all of us, you don t really know any better.
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And you know, you re taking a risk by going into this world of movies and TV and theater.
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So you can only really look back and think, God damn, how did I get through that?
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But at the time,
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$100 is a lot.
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You get a little part is a lot.
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You know, you re just sitting with your buddies at the coffee shop.
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It s such a long shot to make it that it s probably once you make it, you look back and go, God, that was tough.
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But at the time it s tough, but you don t, I didn t really notice how tough it was.
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You don t notice it.
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No, you just, well, you re, you re focused on like you re, you re focused on getting the job.
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So basically that was what was going on with me.
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I was like, I would, uh,
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Uh, I would read those papers that, you know, and at the time, excuse me, in the sixties, I, I didn t have an equity card.
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So I just got out of school and like the way they did it.
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was either you would read in say read in the in backstage that such and such was casting something and you go okay and and they re casting over on 57th street you know by carnegie hall somewhere near one of those buildings down the block whatever it was and casting was you know say tuesday okay but you didn t get in
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until the end of the, you gotta, if you didn t have an equity card, they saw everybody, you know, they would there cause everybody s looking for the right person to play the part.
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Uh, hopefully, uh, if, and especially if they re not, you know, I mean, maybe they already had the lead cast or that s the way they raised the money or those things, but you would, you would wait up in the,
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I d go at like three o clock, four o clock in the afternoon, and maybe the line was less.
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And you waited, and then in the end, the very end, they would let the non-equity people get in to audition.
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And then they d see everybody.
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And as a matter of fact, the first play that I ever got, I did at
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in, I think it was 1968 or so, seven, the first off-Broadway show.
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Cause I had done regional theater.
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Well, uh, I did toured with a play once that came out of school.
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That was like kind of cast in the, we went to two theaters, went to the Eugene O Neill foundation.
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where they, the playwrights thing and 60 something, 64.
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And, and then like in 68, I actually did that.
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I went to the, to one of those auditions and where they make you wait until the very end.
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And I peeked my head into the
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You know, I, it was this big, big door and one of those big old pre-war buildings in the, like it was on, I think it might ve been on like near 57th street.
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And I, I walk up and it s a giant door and it was nobody there.
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Cause I had gone and come back.
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The line was really long and anyway, long story short, I stuck my head in and there were, there was an actor, a director and a writer and a producer sitting at a table really far away in this big empty room.
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It looked like rehearsal room.
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And I just popped my head in like, and, and, you know, you still love, you know, seeing people kind of thing.
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actor, a guy named Alan Garfield.
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You remember?
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James Garfield s son?
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No, no.
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I don t know who his dad was.
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His name was Alan Garfield, but he was... Do you know him, Dave?
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No.
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I know Garfield the cat.
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Okay.
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Anyway, look, the guy literally at the table,
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across the room turns around and said, that s the guy who should play the part.
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Whoa.
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They were trying to talk him into, yeah.
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He didn t want to do this part.
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It wasn t a huge part, but it was a good part.
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And I stuck my head in the door and the guy and the actor, not the director and the producers and the writer or whatever.
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He said, there s the guy who should play this part.
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And I backed out of the room or something, and they came and got me.
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And I went in and I read the lines, did the thing.
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I had never seen the script before, just those things where they give you the sides.
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Cold read, yeah.
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Yeah, and I got a part in a play called Shoot Anything With Hair That Moves.
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Of course.
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Huge success.
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I just think of the 70s and the films of the 70s and Cuckoo s Nest.
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And of course that play.
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Yeah.
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Don t shoot anything that has hair.
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And the friends that you made, Jack Nicholson and Michael Douglas and your class, those 70s guys that all became lifelong friends.
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What s the deal with those guys?
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Are they fun or do you like them?
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They re really fun.
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They re good to work with.
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Jack s the coolest guy out there.
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Jack, Jack was like a guy from Jersey.
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He actually lived like he was born in this.
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We were born in the same hospital.
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Figure that like, well, I ll be sure.
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And well, hey, I ll be damned.
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How about.
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And that s what Jack would say.
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I ll be damned.
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Born in the same hospital.
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Yeah.
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How do you like that?
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Me and being born in the same hospital.
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I don t do a good accent.
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Let s see.
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And then Michael, I met actually in the 60s at the Eugene O Neill Playwrights Conference up there, where that play that I was going through town with, we opened the festival that year, and that s where we met.
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Not only good guys, but really, uh, fun to work with.
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And once we got going, we had a couple of shots to work together, which was like really good.
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You know, when people are looking out for you because, uh, the business is like very difficult.
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Uh, and when people are looking out for you as well as, you know, your, your buddies and know
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what the scoop is, then you, you know, you d be fortunate to have those guys as friends.
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You re lucky you re all good too, because it s, it s, it s hard to help each other out or recommend someone, but if everybody s good, those, you know, all three of you.
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So it s not crazy that you would all be in another movie or that you would work together because you keep bringing, bringing it, which is hard to do.
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It s all about work.
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The work.
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Just keep working.
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Keep having, having and having a good time doing it.
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Our theme here, Casually SNL, and you hosted five times.
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It s very rare to host five times.
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Five o clock.
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Five o clock.
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You and John Goodman and a couple others, when you host that show, as you know, you got to pretty much cold read 55 scripts over four hours, basically.
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And I remember thinking at the time when you came in in 86 or 87, damn, this guy can cold read.
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Was it, were you known for that?
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But you were like nailing it, you know, over and over again.
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I don t, you know, pretty cool to, to, to watch as a young performer.
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Well, it was a lot of fun to sit in that room with all you crazy people and, uh, and, and have that pile of scripts in front of you and just go through them.
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Uh, I mean, that, that s like,
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uh, you know, the opportunity to have everybody there pitching what they thought was best, best, and what you felt comfortable with.
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That s the main thing.
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I think that s key, right?
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For, would you say like for the hosts to be comfortable with all that material, one, you know, pick the ones that are the ones that suit you best.
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It s a lucky thing like to have that, um, pack of, you know,
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troubadours all sitting around the table, you know, it s like old school showbiz kind of, yeah, old school, you know, it s like, yeah, I could imagine what it was like, you know, when the Marx brothers were running around all the theaters trying out material, you know, that that would be the same kind of a thing.
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They, they, they just go do, they suffer people through two hours or three hours of material.
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and then pick the ones that they liked best.
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Yeah, Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin did some TV shows in their Don Pardo Show Me, they said to me, and they would just go up to the director and cut his tie off with a scissor.
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This is Jerry Lewis in the 50s.
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And they would both just push the piano over, like destroy the piano.
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They were the anarchists then, they re crazy people.
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But one thing about you, I have to say, so we get to it, was on Hans and Franz, when we got you in there as like a pit bull over the top,
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Austrian guy who was out of his mind and you kept, we would berate the audience, the imaginary, and you would start berating them and then you start attacking the camera and we had to keep holding you back.
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That was one of the funniest moments I had on that show with you in that sketch.
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Yeah.
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Hysterical.
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Because you committed so fucking hard
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I think sometimes the task of the director for me is, you know, sitting on me, holding me back, get me away from the, just try to turn the burners down a little bit, you know.
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Once I get going, I guess that s what happens.
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Burners down.
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It still happens that way.
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Well, that s what Arnold told me about you.
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He said, you know, you got to keep Danny on his feet.
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Keep Danny on his feet because his energy goes up.
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You have to keep him on a short leash.
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On a short leash.
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Otherwise, he gets going, he gets away at the leash.
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And you have to follow him and get him and bring him back into the scene because the emotions get so high with Danny.
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It s funny about it.
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With Arnold, Arnold and I,
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thrust together by Ivan Reitman, who just passed away.
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Twins.
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He called me and said, how would you like to be Arnold Schwarzenegger s brother?
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I said, I ll jump at the chance.
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I thought that was a great idea.
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Once we got together, it was like we had a great chemistry.
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We were breaking balls constantly.
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It was like a kind of like
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You know you know he s he s so formidable you know and like and he s got a great sense of humor he does yeah like he s always.
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Doing all kinds of like you know crazy shit and he always had a pack of guys around like.
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uh, Franco and, and, uh, Colombo.
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Yeah.
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And all these guys and these other bodybuilders.
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And so it was like a pack of, it was like a pack of bros.
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It was similar, you know, going into like that with the, you know, as a host of Saturday night live, going into this pack of like crazy people that were always, you know, that had a secondhand, a shorthand and, and, uh, and,
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got along the way you guys did.
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I don t, you know, at least when I was around you, we were always, you know, fucking around, having a good time.
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And so it s a similar kind of thing with Arnold.
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I d go in and there would all be these guys seriously pumping iron and doing shit and, you know, talking about, you know, and I just like, you know, when you get protein powder, all of a sudden a kind of a wrecking ball comes in and starts banging into
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You know?
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Yeah.
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It was fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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Were they going to do a triplets?
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Yeah, we were going to do it.
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And then, uh, two, this is a, I always go by the Superbowl because it was, I was in Atlanta, uh, doing a movie and, uh, and, uh, it was Superbowl Sunday and I was just getting over COVID.
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I was stuck in a room for two weeks and,
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And the news came that Ivan passed away on that day.
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And so this is going to be three, this is three years now that he s gone.
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Two, yeah, three years.
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years.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Brilliant director.
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Yeah.
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It was a drag.
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Um, he was, uh, you know, he s a lot of fun and, uh, and, um, made, made a big difference in my life.
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Well, yeah, I was told that we were going to do triplets.
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Oh, we re going to do trips.
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We had a, we had a script going, everything was going.
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And then when he passed, uh, his family didn t want to continue with
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doing it.
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So we re, Arnold and I are working on other things together.
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Good.
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And you know, that s awesome.
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We love Arnold.
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Yeah.
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He s a cool guy.
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He s a good guy.
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Tracy Morgan was going to come in.
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I ll put a baby in there.
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You know, he s so funny.
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We had a great group together and he was just off the charts.
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Bananas.
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Hysterical.
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I mean, that energy in there.
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Mr. D, it don t get any easier.
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That s that.
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That s the way things go.
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You have to always adjust, like we do.
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Did you have the role that got away, Danny?
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Or maybe a conflict, you had to do another movie instead?
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No, I had choices that I couldn t do.
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I hadn t had one of those.
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that was really substantial that, you know, you could look back and say, you know, no, I had roles that I desperately wanted and got, which I got, I had to work hard to get.
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If you can t imagine, you know, how everybody holds out, you know, you get a partner, somebody says, the last minute,
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you get a part, and it s the one you wanted.
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And that s really the ones I think about.
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Once it got away, I don t know.
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I can t, you know.
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Were you going to be Costanza?
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Oh, no, no.
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I think like, you mean like in Seinfeld?
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Yeah.
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No, I wasn t.
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They just, yeah.
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When,
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Yeah, I was still, I don t know what I was doing at the time.
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I, I, when, when I did a movie, I did a movie called the ratings game, which is, uh, was done for Showtime.
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It was the first movie that I directed and, and I cast in that movie,
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As a, it was one of his first things on camera, Jerry Seinfeld.
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I don t know if he had done anything before this, but I cast him as a, an agent and coincidentally.
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There were a couple of really wild characters in the movie.
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I cast Michael Richards in the same movie.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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I didn t know that they would later be teamed up in Seinfeld, but it was in 83.
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When did Seinfeld go on?
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93, 2, 3, 4?
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I m sorry.
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Something like that.
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So 10 years earlier, I did a movie called The Ratings Game, and both Jerry Seinfeld and Michael Richards were in it.
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Did Jerry ask you questions about how to direct?
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How do you want me?
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How do you want me to play this scene?
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Did he ever say that to you?
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No, I don t.
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He s pretty kind of serious in real life, I think.
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By the way, which Batman did you work with?
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I can t remember.
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Batman Returns.
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Who was the Batman again?
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Oswald.
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Oh no.
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Oh, I love my, I do.
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I m not just cause you re on our show right now.
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I love your penguin.
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I loved it.
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Your, your Oswald penguin.
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I thought, didn t you have fun doing that?
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I mean your, your getup was so crazy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I had, I had fun doing that.
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That was, uh, uh, that was one of the ones that I really wanted.
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And I, I, you know, and,
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I met Tim and, uh, we had a great, you know, uh, conversation about it.
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And I knew he had done a lot of drawings and we sat in his office and, uh, looked at her and I really, really wanted to play that.
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And he, the makeup was the first makeup was I was in the chair for almost five hours.
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And then we got it down to three, but we stayed around three, three and a
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three, three and change.
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And it was amazing.
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And it was the thing about, I liked about that was, you know, I, like I said, I like to go big and, and boy, oh boy, Oswald was written like an opera.
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You could take this guy, you know, I mean, he just, he was slapping his flippers off the walls, baby.
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I mean, your bird is going to fly.
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He was the wicked witch, he was all of it, all in one.
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Crazy character.
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Yeah.
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And that was after, okay.
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That was after I d work with, I did the, you know, we did romancing the stone, jewel of the Nile.
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Great.
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And then more of the roses with Michael and Kathleen.
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And I, I was just about thinking about what we were going to do again, because I was trying to pull a Fritz Lang, you know, where you as a director, you ask, you know, the same people in the,
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In all the movies it but they play different parts and and then batman came along.
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It s odd the way things you know emerge most of the movies that i ve done.
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You know kate came out of the blue and i was very you re very fortunate you know i was i was gonna direct a pilot in it i was sitting in the.
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In the commissary of paramount in and.
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I was just about to make the deal.
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I was talking to the writer, and I was talking to the producer, and it was at Paramount.
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And I was directing this pilot, and I had a yellow pad full of notes about the pilot script.
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And I knew I was getting really steely daggers from the writer, who was also the producer.
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And a woman, this was in the days we didn t have cell phones and stuff.
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A woman from the, like the commissary, I was in the commissary all the time because of taxi.
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We, that s where we shot taxi.
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She came over to me and she said, you have a phone call.
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It was like the old Hollywood day.
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She didn t bring it to the table, but I, I got up and went over to where the phone was.
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And I, and I, it was, it was Michael Douglas.
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And he rescued me from doing that pilot because we had shot Romancing the Stone already.
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No yes we re missing the stone and he said what are you doing i heard you re gonna do a pilot i said yeah man i m struggling through this meeting right now he s what you can we gotta go on the road man we re going all over the world to promote the movie and i said i love you baby.
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Yeah, get me out of here.
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I love you.
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You rescued my ass.
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All right, I got a question.
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Go.
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Did you ever go see, you were on a show called Taxi, you might not remember, but did you ever see Andy Kaufman go do stand-up, just like at the Comedy Store?
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Yeah.
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And how was that?
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That was bizarre.
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Yeah.
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Bizarre, man.
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But I went to see him do that.
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And I saw him and I went out to eat at the restaurant.
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He waited.
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He busboyed out in the valley.
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It was after he was on.
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Yeah.
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While he was on the show, he busboyed out in.
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I love it on.
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I think I m not sure.
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Valley.
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Yeah.
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It was a good
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, is that the trains and Jerry s Jerry s is the
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And, you know, we went out, we had like a couple of us from the show.
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I think Tony might ve been with me and Judd might ve come.
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We just one night went out and we knew he was working.
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And so we went and ate and, you know, had conversations with like you would have with the bus boy.
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Andy s nowhere around.
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All right, he s the busboy.
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He was the busboy.
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It was like really great.
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I mean, that guy was like, yeah, we had some fun.
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His dressing room was right next to mine.
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He was hysterical one day, somebody was delivering a package, and it was a woman, and he started yelling at her because she was, I don t know, UPS, or I can t remember what.
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Maybe it was the government.
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I don t know what the fuck it was, but she s walking in.
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She s got a uniform on She s delivering a package to somebody and he tells her that she should be home, you know She s taking a man s job and he walked her into a wrestling match.
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I Was there for that one right in the hallway, but both of them turning red, you know, I mean like I
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I don t think you could actually.
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I mean, you could do that.
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You could do.
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Yeah, I don t know.
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There was no like.
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You know, again, if that was a, if that was today, somebody would be out with a cell phone, and the next thing you know, it would be online, and people would comment about it, and they would say, you know, but I ll tell you, the woman that he was fighting was as big as he was, and she did a good job, man.
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Really had his ass down big time, you know.
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It was, it was,
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I don t know if tony i always wondered if tony always had a little camera with him dancer and i was wondering if he you have one of those little.
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Who is that in a good picture eight millimeter.
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Did you were you cast before andy were you cast first did you have any hand and i think andy might have been kissed i was i was the last.
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I think i might have been one of the last members to be cast.
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And the the.
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The the story was that I was told later was that my part was actually written as a like a voice that came over the loudspeaker.
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Yeah.
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Like kind of like Carlton, the doorman.
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Yeah, I remember Carlton, that guy.
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And and then ultimately, you know, I came in and did my famous audition where I
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I said to them before they just introduced me and I said to Brooks and Weinberger and Stan Davis was there.
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all the guys sitting around.
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I said, one thing I want to know before I start, who wrote this shit?
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And I threw it on the table.
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And it was like a split second of like, am I going to get corona?
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Not even, you know, a nanosecond.
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Yeah.
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And then they just fucking pissed themselves.
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Right.
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And then it was one of those auditions where you, you couldn t say anything, you couldn t do anything wrong.
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I d say, and, and I d get a laugh.
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I love it.
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It wasn t, you know, it was the,
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That was Joel.
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Riga.
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The casting director was Joel Thurm.
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He said, you gotta come do this show.
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And I said, yeah, man, okay, cool.
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What a fucking score that was.
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What a score that was, yeah.
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Yeah, Jesus.
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What was weirder, working with Andy Kaufman on Taxi or then doing The Man on the Moon with Jim Carrey doing Andy Kaufman?
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I think working with Jim was, it was like really off the charts.
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Most fun.
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Like I ve had fun like on.
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Sure.
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I m really fortunate.
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I had fun on a lot of the movies.
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You know, I never had one of those.
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Oh, fuck.
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That was awful.
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Movies.
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I always had these like really quirky kind of things.
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Being on the set with Jim Carrey.
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Sorry about that.
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Jim Carrey was.
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Oh, oh, it is Jim.
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No, I m only kidding.
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He was like.
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in so far and you know that all the stories documentary I was using that movie.
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And so my I but also playing God rest his soul George Shapiro.
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Anyway, that he was busted my balls constantly and you know I mean let s just then see it s infectious because then what would happen if we were having fun.
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But Milo should go to me.
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You got to get them out of this trailer.
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I m losing time.
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I got to get, you know, I am.
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The studio is going to be on my ass.
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Yeah.
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And I m going and Jim, Tony, Tony, Tony, come on out.
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And he s gone.
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You know, but it was fun.
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It was even though it was like, you know, and I ve got a lot of friends who worked on that movie and we still talk about that experience because
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Pam Abdi was my assistant at the time.
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She was there and knowing that I was going through what was going on.
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I mean, he did things like, okay, we re acting in the movie, but I m also the producer, one of the producers of the movie.
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And so he would get mad at the,
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Any like you pull his car up to my trailer and went up you know just got a little metal steps yeah just the car up put it in gear or something like that the keys i couldn t get out of my trip.
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How to come to the crane to get the car you know it s like one of those.
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It was a crazy, crazy time.
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I love Jim Carrey.
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Jim Carrey is fucking great.
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Just the fact that he committed that.
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Did he get nominated for Best Actor for that?
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No, I don t know.
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He was brilliant in that part.
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And seriously, would turn it on and off when he wanted.
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So that was like,
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One of those things where whenever he came to the set, he was always in character.
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But if you see him like, you know, you know, off, like I went to his house or something like that for, uh, me, you know, some he was like, cool.
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He wasn t, you know, he wasn t like a serial killer off the, yeah.
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Well, yeah, he s very sort of a quiet, sweet guy.
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Yeah.
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Quiet, sweet guy.
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Yeah.
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Turned into like Tony Clifton.
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I love it.
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Which was Tony Clifton is a whole other that was.
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Yeah, we shot at a place called Chasen s down on.
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I remember that that place.
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OK, he spread.
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There was some kind of, I don t know, union strike or something.
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There was something going on.
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He wrote like
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big letters, like, you know, in red ink.
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I mean, red spray paint, uh, all over the building.
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I had, I had, I had to read the paint.
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I had to repaint the entire building.
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It s like a Farley.
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It s like having a crazy person on this.
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I can t imagine what it was.
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I, I, I always loved Chris and, uh, uh, because he would take it to that, you know,
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and Chris
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Dana, I gotta ask Danny about an Always Sunny question, because we can t let you go without talking about Always Sunny.
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One question of mine is, I don t see all the episodes, but I see a lot of it on Instagram, which I don t know if you know this, but when they show TikTok and Instagram clips, they re always so fucking filthy.
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I m like, are these from the real show?
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Are they getting away with all this stuff?
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Are they filthy?
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I don t know.
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I mean, like, just they re very R-rated.
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And I thought, yeah, I mean, people love that fucking show.
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They love it.
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The show is a little, uh, you know, I don t know what you re talking about, but, uh, we have had some, um, innuendos, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There s some innuendos for sure.
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I m not sure if they re even innuendos.
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They re just, uh, straight ahead, but yeah, there is.
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It s so funny and it s such a long run.
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It sounds like a gift, I m sure.
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Yeah, it is a gift.
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They all look fun as shit.
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I don t know everybody that well.
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No, they re all... When I got this show, Landgraf was my buddy and he showed me this show.
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FX boss, right.
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FX.
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And then I met them and they were...
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you know, just the way they are.
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And, uh, the same cat, you know, the three oddballs.
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And then I met Caitlin and she s, she s like hysterical, hilarious.
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But, um, yeah, they re, they re a lot of fun to go to work with, you know?
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Yeah.
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It s good.
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It s a good job.
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It s been on there forever.
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Keeps given keeps given.
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And now Matilda, we have to talk about.
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Yeah.
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Matilda came to me.
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Yeah.
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Which you directed the movie.
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I did.
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I directed the movie and, and I, you know, I, I saw Mara Wilson in, in, uh, in, uh, the, uh, uh, movie, uh, Mrs. Doubtfire.
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And, uh, she was a little bit older when I met her perfect from Matilda and we shot the movie and it, it was great.
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We had a great time.
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That was like,
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That was fun.
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That was hundreds of kids.
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There was no CG.
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We added kids and all that stuff.
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This was all real kids.
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It was really great.
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Me on the stage with a bullhorn, yeah, do this, do that.
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And get your finger out of your nose.
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We re shooting, okay, let s go.
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Wrangling cats, yeah.
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Wrangling, yeah.
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And so now we re doing it on.
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We ve taken the sound out.
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You know, you ve seen these things.
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Everybody does it with E.T.
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and does it with Star Wars and does it with Back to the Future.
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I took the soundtrack out and David Newman is going to conduct the Philharmonic.
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It s a symphony orchestra, New Jersey Symphony Orchestra.
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And we re doing that on March 22nd.
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in New Jersey at the State Theater in New Brunswick.
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And it s really exciting to do, because here s the thing.
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You take the sound out, OK?
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Not just the music out.
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But I narrate the movie as well as play a part in it.
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So when I m narrating, I m on stage, actually, with the symphony orchestra.
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It s really intimidating.
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But it s really a lot of fun.
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Yeah.
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And you re watching the
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you know, the streamer go by on, I got a monitor with the movie.
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He s conducting the score.
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The people are watching the movie.
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I ve got a brand new print and it s just beautiful.
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The print is like gorgeous.
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And, and then when the stream, when, when it s my turn to narrate a talk, you know, he conducts, it s like being a conductor.
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You talk over it?
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Yeah.
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Well, in the movie, I play the part of Wormwood.
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Mr. Wormwood, and I also narrate the movie.
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So, I tried to find somebody to narrate the movie, but I, being the egotist I am, I couldn t.
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Yeah, embarrassing.
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It doesn t happen to anybody else.
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Cast yourself.
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I cast myself.
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And it s kind of a trip to see, you know, you play the part, you narrate the movie.
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And I ve got, Rhea, of course, plays Mrs. Wormwood.
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She s gonna come on the 22nd.
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Great.
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And I ve got Pam Ferris coming over from England.
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She played the trunchbull.
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It s really astounding how many kids love the trunchbull.
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Ms.
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Trunchbull.
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Ms.
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Trunchbull.
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She was really, really good.
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By the way, I don t hear about a lot of these things, Danny.
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You don t hear about the symphony, maybe with a Star Wars or something, but this is a really interesting thing to do.
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Yeah.
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Fun, challenging situation.
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Yeah, it s and I m David Newman, who wrote the score.
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We ve we ve done this once before.
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We did it once before.
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We did it a few years ago with a orchestra from the East Coast, not not New Jersey.
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And it worked out really great.
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It s fun.
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It s a it s a it s a fun night because you get to, you know,
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But you re right.
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Usually it s done with more like Back to the Future-y kind of E.T.
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blockbuster, crazy movies.
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This one is, it s got a lot of music in it, so it s fun.
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Who wrote the score?
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David Newman.
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He s one of the...
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Yeah, the Newman pack.
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As soon as the Newmans were born, the father was the head of 20th Century Fox Music, did a lot of the scores of all the old movies that we love.
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And his brother, you always see the Newman name on.
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And then David
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David scores, Thomas Newman, Randy Newman.
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They re all related, these guys.
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They were all, like, as soon as they re born, they give them a violin or stick them, little babies.
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The first thing the Newmans do.
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Yeah, even Eric Newman is, his son, Randy s son, produces Narcos, a lot of movies.
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So everyone s in the biz.
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Yeah, everybody s in the biz.
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So this should be a really good night.
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Sounds great.
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Yeah.
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Are you guys in the East Coast?
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Are you here?
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Sometimes.
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We are in California, but if I was out there, I d crash that party.
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Yeah, crash that party because we re going to have, yeah.
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The State Theater in New Brunswick is new for me.
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I ve never been there.
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I think I played there.
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But the symphony orchestra.
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You did?
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I believe so.
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How many seats is that about?
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2,000?
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2,500?
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It s 1,800.
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Okay.
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I think I played there.
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1,800.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It s a beautiful theater.
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Great theater.
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This would be really fun.
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I love live music and live symphony orchestra.
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Then to have you there narrating and seeing the film.
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Yeah.
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That sounds fun.
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Yeah.
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I would go see it, everybody.
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Package deal.
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Are you on the East Coast right now, Danny?
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Yeah, I m on the West Coast.
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We re probably right around the corner from the West Coast.
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Okay.
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I don t know.
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Yeah.
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I ll wave.
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Anyway, it s been a pleasure, Danny.
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Good luck with this.
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Thanks.
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This has been a presentation of Odyssey.
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