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Hello Hello, this is therapy gecko.
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Yeah, who is this?
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This is Kirby.
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How you doing Kirby?
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Pretty good.
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I m at work What s what s going on with you?
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How s life?
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Pretty good so far.
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What how can I get you today Kirby?
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What is there anything in particular you wanted to talk about?
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I have had some interesting jobs and I I
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I guess you can decide which one sounds more interesting and I ll tell you about it.
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All right, sure.
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Tell me about these jobs.
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So my previous job, I worked at an animal testing facility for medical devices and I really didn t like it, but it was kind of wild.
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But now I am a health inspector and I like go to restaurants and like tell them to throw away their gross food and stuff.
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You got a lot of free- you know um What is an episode of Spongebob with the health inspector where he goes in and they give him everything on the menu?
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Yeah.
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And then they kill him.
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Yeah.
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I can t really- I don t ever eat the food because you know they might actually kill me sometimes.
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Why would they do that?
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Well no like the food is so disgusting.
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Oh.
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How many- how many restaurants have you personally shut down?
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Um, I did shut down one because they had a cockroach infestation, but they recently reopened.
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Uh, now if they, what does repentance look like if someone gets shut down for a cockroach infestation?
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Uh, and they, and they, uh, what do they have to do before they eventually reopen?
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Basically, they have to fix everything.
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Like, I don t know, this place is really dirty and I basically had to clean everything.
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And I kept going back and putting down like sticky traps, but they kept having cockroaches.
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So eventually they didn t have cockroaches.
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And I said, okay, I guess you can open.
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Hmm.
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Okay.
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Uh, what kind of, what kind of food did they serve?
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It was like a, like a bar sort of like bar food, like burgers and stuff.
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Did you get to, what are you, what are you looking for when you re inspecting for health?
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You re looking for mold and mud and stuff.
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Yeah.
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There s a lot of stuff that we go off like the food code and the government, you know, writes the code and then all the states kind of make their own version of it.
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So there s like a lot of stuff and mostly it s like, okay, this is dirty and I want you to clean it and this food is like old or this food is not being kept cold in your fridge.
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So
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A lot of times I go in there and I literally take a temperature and I m like, okay, your whole fridge is, uh, like 70 degrees.
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So you can t throw everything away.
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Now I have a question because I m the kind of guy, you know, you know, all, you know, you know, like conspiracy theorist people.
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Mhm.
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I m like the, whatever the opposite of that is.
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I m like, I accept all things at complete face value.
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Cause it s, cause whatever.
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So any, I ll eat at any place.
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And I m just like, oh, this place exists and they are serving food in such a way that makes me think they re reputable.
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How often am I wrong?
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Like what percentage?
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of restaurants and food places, am I actually eating diarrhea?
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Yeah, I mean, it probably depends on the place, but if you re like in my city, I would say like 60% of the time, it s pretty gross.
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60% of the time?
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Where s city dealing?
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I m not I don t want to say because I work for the city, and I don t you don t want to say you but you work You got a you could help so many people Diarrhea you you don t want to come to my city.
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I live in Ohio You live in Ohio, okay?
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Is what is it Columbus?
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No worse smaller Okay Are you serious 60% um
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Maybe not.
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I don t know.
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I feel like there s a lot of places that I would not eat at anymore.
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After this job.
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Why?
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What what is it that you look what is it that you saw at these places that made you feel that way?
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Like none of their like a lot especially like breakfast places or like diners and stuff.
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None of their like coolers are working.
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So they re just serving you like warm cottage cheese and stuff.
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And that s just really gross because bacteria can grow.
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Like, I don t know, I have a biology degree.
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Like, I know about, like, all the, I don t know, all the different diseases you can catch from eating.
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like food that s out of temperature.
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I think all the the I think the average Ohio in more than likely has been eating bacteria ridden cheese for their entire life.
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And so they re I mean, you re a biology person.
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So I don t know how much truth there is to this.
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But it would seem as though they ve developed an immunity to it.
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That s true.
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It is true.
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I don t know.
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You can t develop an immunity to the knowledge of it, right?
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Which makes it great.
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Because you could be eating spiders in your sleep like they say you do for years and years and years.
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And so your body has a spider immunity, but that doesn t make it any less gross when you think about it.
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Yeah, I don t know.
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Maybe I m just tainted by the job, maybe.
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But you want to know.
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A place that actually does pretty good around here is Taco Bell, which is surprising.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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All my, all the Taco Bells I inspect are really clean.
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That s awesome.
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Well, give me, are there any, Ooh, are there any fancy restaurants that you ve inspected that are better than Taco Bells?
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Are there any fancy restaurants that are grosser than Taco Bells?
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Um, let me think.
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Well, the one that was kind of fancy, their cooler wasn t working, so I threw away all the food.
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But they were nice about it.
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What else is fancy?
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Um, I don t know.
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I m like looking at my list of places.
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I don t have a lot of fancy places.
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I have this one steakhouse that I need to go to, and whoever did it last time,
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It was so bad that they said they were going to go back and check on it, but they never went back.
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So I m really nervous that it s going to be a shithole.
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How many restaurants in total have you shut down?
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Me, just the one.
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But I ve only been doing this for a year.
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Okay one shut down in one year is not not too bad.
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That s pretty good, but you man.
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That s quite a stat you did 60% Like there s just not a lot of places.
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I would eat that anymore What s the cleanest place give us to give it?
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What s what is the cleanest?
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restaurant in Ohio that you would recommend um I mean Taco Bell was pretty good.
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Let me think of another my Jimmy John s.
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It s really good.
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I
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Hmm.
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So you re saying to me right now that Taco Bell is the healthiest place to eat in Ohio.
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I mean, I wouldn t say the healthiest, but you d probably be the least likely to get a foodborne illness from Taco Bell.
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Hmm.
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Um, now what s the worst?
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Are you allowed to say that?
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Is that, well, that was, are you on blast?
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It s all public information, so I can pretty much tell you whatever.
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The worst, I mean, one of the olive gardens around here had a lot of roaches, which you would think would be really nice.
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I mean, it s not like super nice, but you would think they d have some standards.
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Pizza Hut, I literally went into my Pizza Hut inspection and my eyes were burning.
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Why?
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There was chemicals or heat or?
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I don t know if it was like something burning in their oven.
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It was gross.
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What were you doing before you were a health inspector?
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That stupid animal testing place.
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It s like medical devices and we would like put it in this oven in some liquid and then the liquid would be put on guinea pigs to see if they have an allergic reaction to it.
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literal guinea pigs Yeah, so I had to shave guinea pigs every day.
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Oh You had to shave them and send them to their dune Yeah, it was horrible and then I That s a bummer man.
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Is that like did any guinea did they fuck up any guinea pigs any guinea pigs get get injured um
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Um, I mean, some, I mean, some of them would just like, no, we weren t, didn t really injure them.
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Cause we just put, um, the extract on their skin, but sometimes like they would scratch out their wound.
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Like we had to inject them too.
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So sometimes they would scratch out their own injections and then they would get like kind of gross.
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So we d have to tell the vet to give them pain meds and stuff.
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Where do you get these Guinea pigs from?
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There s like this giant facility.
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I don t remember where, but they just breed these animals for testing and then they just ship them to us or to the place they need to work.
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Yeah.
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That s wild.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah.
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I don t know if you heard about, I think it was last summer, there was a animal testing facility where they released a bunch of eagles from, and then like there are all these beagles that needed to rest like homes because they released them from this place.
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I guess the USDA shut them down, but that s where we, the place I work, that s where they got some of their animals from, was that place.
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That s wild that that s legal to just raise guinea pigs to get fucked up.
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There s a, there s, um, there s all these, there s all these like kind of arbitrary lines in human animal, human animal relations, right?
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There s like, we ll eat and kill the fuck out of a bunch of chickens and nobody cares, but no dogs.
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You can t eat dogs and cats.
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Those are friends.
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Um, right.
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You can totally fuck up guinea pigs.
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Now, I would think, here s the thing.
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If you were talking about rats, and I understand those lines.
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There s something about it.
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Where just as a person, you re like, all right, cow, go fuck up that cow, but save the dog.
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Dog is cool.
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I feel like guinea pigs
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or they re above that line.
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They re like, they re cute.
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I ve been seeing lots of videos of them on TikTok and stuff.
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They re like, they have little guinea pig pageants.
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I don t know if you ve seen that.
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Rats, rats are gonna have a tough one.
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It s gonna be a long time before rats get any sympathy.
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Because if you told me that they were fucking up rats, I d be like, all right, who cares?
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You know, but guinea pigs, I feel like they re above that line.
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Yeah, we had rats and mice and rabbits.
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Rabbits are above the line.
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Rabbits are cute.
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There s lots of cartoon rabbits.
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Yeah, I never did any work with the rabbit.
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Um, I ve eaten a rabbit before, so I guess, I guess it s not above the line, but I regret it.
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I ve eaten kangaroo.
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I don t regret it because, uh, they had to kill a rabbit.
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I regret it because it just wasn t that good.
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And also they did have to kill a rabbit, but why should I regret that and not the thousands of chickens that I ve killed by eating them?
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And then someone s gonna send me a message and be like, you should be a vegetarian.
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And I m like, I probably should just so I don t die, but killing and eating chickens is really delicious, so I m probably never gonna do that.
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How long do you think you ll be a health inspector for?
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Honestly, if I work here for 10 years, they will repay my student loan.
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So, at least 10 years.
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Really?
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You re going to work as a health inspector for 10 years?
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I mean, I want my money back, so... It s actually not that bad.
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How much student loan debt are you in?
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$25,000, which is not bad compared to other people.
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That s not horrible.
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That s not horrible at all.
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Yeah.
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No, but if I can get it back, might as well.
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Did some people I was watching a clip, you know, the day, you know, Dave Ramsey is.
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Yeah.
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A clip from the Dave Ramsey show came up on my Tik TOK feed with this dude who is in like $430,000 of student debt from med school.
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Isn t that crazy?
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I can t imagine.
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I don t even feel like that s worth it anymore.
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I don t even know what you do with that.
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You just have to move to China.
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Yeah, you just live with that the rest of your life, I guess.
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You ll be marrying someone rich.
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Is there anything you don t like about the health inspector job?
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Do you think you ll be able to do it for 10 years?
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Is there anything about it that you are like, oh, I might get burnt out by this?
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I mean, it does kind of suck when you go
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back like I don t know my like my overall like goal is to help these people make their restaurants better and I hate it when I m like hey like these are the things need to fix and then I go back and it s the same or even worse.
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It s like what s the point but it s really not that bad of a job because I literally get to pick what inspections I do every day and I just kind of do my own thing.
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I don t have to worry about my co-workers so it s pretty nice.
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Do you ever feel like people are putting on a good show for the health inspector?
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They clean everything.
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So when, when you come in, but then right when you leave, they re back to, um, you know, dropping burgers on the floor and stuff.
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Yeah, probably.
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Cause well, they don t know that I m going to come.
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I just kind of show up, but sometimes I ll say, Hey, I m from the health department to do your inspection.
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And they go, okay, one second.
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And I can hear them doing stuff in the back.
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And I m like, oh.
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So I just walk back there.
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What s your life like outside of health inspecting?
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Do you have hobbies?
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Yeah.
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I have two lizards.
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I have a bearded dragon and a leopard gecko.
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How do you feel about eating slash testing cosmetics on lizards?
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I mean, it s pretty sad.
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I don t know how a lizard
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Compared to human skin, but I don t think they do that Unless they do I just don t know I was talking to someone about this because I ve had people tell me that I should get a pet gecko And I ll never do that because there s there are some animals that Have better lives in captivity than the the world
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And dogs, captive dogs definitely gonna be better off than like a fucking wolf or whatever.
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But I don t think lizards fall into that.
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I think a lizard is probably better running around in leaves in the backwoods than like in a tube.
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Probably, but like the lizards that we have as pets are bred and they re so different from what they would be in the wild, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, that s true.
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Yeah, you couldn t release it now.
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No, it s like a hamster.
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They came from somewhere, but now you can t release those things.
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Okay, you got two lizards.
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What else is going on?
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Anything exciting?
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I have a cat.
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I crochet stuff.
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I m making a blanket for someone s wedding.
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That s like absorbing my entire life.
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Are you happy?
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Do you feel like when you wake up in the morning, are you like, sweet?
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This is good.
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I think I feel better.
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I m happier than I used to be, but I don t know if I would say that I m like completely happy.
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How often do you have dire moments where you re crying and going, I can t do this anymore?
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I don t know.
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Probably not that often.
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Anymore I feel like I definitely used to like when I was still in school.
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I would definitely have a crisis But now it s like not even once a month That s good.
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That s I know that s a pretty You know I m in the human experience.
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It s a diet sort of a dire thing so You know if you can manage your crises to a lower for lower frequency than once a month, that s pretty good
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Yeah, it s been pretty good lately.
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And I want this to be a message to the people listening.
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You re just, you re kind of an example of the idea that ignorance is bliss.
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Is bliss.
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Yes.
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What s your name again?
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Oh yeah.
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Kirby.
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Kirby.
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Kirby, is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
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Um, maybe just check your local health department s website to make sure you re not eating poop.
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Um, I m going to counter that and say that ignorance is bliss.
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Sure.
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Have a good one, Kirby.
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Thanks for calling.
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Okay.
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Thanks.
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Bye.
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It s official.
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Taco Bell is the healthiest restaurant in Ohio.
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I m going to eat there every day now.
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Hello?
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Hey, who s this?
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My name is Jamie.
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Is this Lyle?
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Yeah.
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So Jamie, what s up?
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What s going on?
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Okay.
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So, uh, years ago,
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Um, there was an incident between my son and his cousin.
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His cousin asked him if he could put his penis in his butt and it caused them to break out into a little fight.
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And, um, this was between your cousin and your who?
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My cousin and my son, my child.
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All right.
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So both boys, not really that relevant.
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And I had a huge problem with the way my entire family reacted with it.
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You know, at first, everybody seemed to be on my page that it was a really big deal and, you know, they were going to seek some kind of help.
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And the next time I talked to them, they re like, oh, well, it was actually your kid who said that, not ours.
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But it doesn t really matter as long as it doesn t happen again.
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It doesn t matter that it happened.
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And I m like, no, that s like a huge red flag, actually.
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So it resulted in me going low contact with my grandparents and no contact with that child s entire immediate family.
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He was being raised by his grandmother.
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And that s gone on for now, they re 12 now, so that was like four years ago.
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And we re approaching a time where my grandparents, their end of life, and I ve been avoiding these people,
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And my mom recently found out that I don t intend to attend their funeral and it s caused a whole new uproar.
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And so I want to know if I m the asshole in the situation or not.
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Okay.
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Why are you not close with the grandparents again?
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Um, well, because they didn t think it was a really big deal.
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And when I first went no contact with that specific part of the family, my grandmother sat me down and basically told me that other family members were molested and we still like get along and we should all do that.
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So I have barely talked to them since then.
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Was somebody was molested?
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Well, yes.
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Also, many years before even the first incident.
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Um, apparently my older brother, apparently my grandmother walked in on my older brother being molested by an uncle.
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And she s like, well, I didn t break up the family over it.
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I just watched them from then on, which was news to me and a lot of people.
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This is, this is so heavily above, what s your, Jamie, this is so heavily above my pay grade, Jamie.
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I know that, I know that.
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Even MIP Apple on Reddit couldn t handle it.
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Okay, alright, alright, so you posted this on, alright, I m gonna recap the story as I understand it.
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Your son s, your son s cousin
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Both of them are eight years old.
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And the cousin asked the son if he could put his penis in the son s butthole.
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That s correct.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And then this upset you and so you stopped talking to the the grandparents because they didn t think it was a big deal.
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Yes, that s right.
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What did you want to have had, what did you want to happen in that situation?
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Well, I think everything probably would have turned out fine if it hadn t been like, you know, reverse.
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They were like, oh, actually, no, it was the other way around.
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Your son propositioned him, and also it doesn t matter.
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And I feel like it definitely matters.
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Um, here s the thing with that.
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Okay.
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Actually, you know what?
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Tell me what they said on what are they?
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What did they say on Reddit before I give my it was just taken down.
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I barely got any responses and it was taken down because it mentioned sexual assault in the greater story even though it wasn t necessarily about that.
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And by that I mean molestation not like Oh my god.
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So what I found out is that there s a lot of this in my family.
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And also, at least some of my family members don t think it s that big of a deal.
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And that s why I ve been no contact.
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That s not safe for my kids or really even me.
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I don t want that.
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I don t like the concept of am I an asshole?
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Because it s not really helpful.
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It s kind of just a label.
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Do you know what I m saying?
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That s why I don t like I don t like I m I am I the asshole cuz it s not helpful It s just a label.
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It s like alright, so you re an asshole then then what do you get it?
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You have to wear a t-shirt with it on your fucking face forever.
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Oh, you re not an asshole Ribbon, there s no Do you want to maybe
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Not really.
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No, I m not a huge funeral person anyway, but the main reason why I m not going to this funeral is because I will see that part of the family and I have bad dreams about running into them.
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Okay.
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Jamie, how old are you?
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I m 36.
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Jimmy at 36 you don t have to fucking do anything you don t want to do for any in if whether or not somebody on the internet thinks you re an asshole or not or or Being reasonable or not or if I think you re being reasonable who gives a shit if you don t want to go then what?
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Don t go you re gonna you re all slowly dying.
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Why do you why does it matter if you don t want to go don t go oh
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For sure.
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I won t go if I don t want to go, but a lot of people think I m in the wrong.
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And so it makes me consider it a little more carefully.
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I only get one chance to either go or not go, you know?
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Okay.
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Do you think there really isn t anybody there?
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I need to impress.
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Do you think you ll regret, you know, you don t have to ever impress anyone ever.
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Do you think you ll regret not going?
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I don t think so, no.
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My husband says that one day my son will resent me for not letting him go.
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How old s your son?
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He s 12 now.
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Does he want to go?
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I mean, I haven t sat him down and asked if he wants to go to his great-grandparents  funeral.
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But he s not extremely close to them, because I ve put distance between them.
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He does want to kick his cousin s ass, though.
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He s made that pretty clear.
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Don t let him kick his cousin s ass.
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No, I can t because he ll hurt him really bad.
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Yeah, I would assume yes, it s the grandparent s funeral.
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And he just wants to go so he can beat up his cousin?
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So we haven t talked about the funeral, but he wants to see the cousin again because he wants to be given an opportunity to like Beckham.
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An opportunity to what?
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to
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That s very cool.
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So, here s the thing.
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If your son sat down with you and was like, hey, I know you have a strained relationship with grandpa, but I wanna go, I wanna pay my respects, you should let him go.
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If he sits down with you and he goes, hey, I wanna go there to beat up my cousin and shove a charcuterie board in his ass, don t let him go.
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Right, right.
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I suppose I would if he told me very seriously that he wanted to.
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I would probably allow that.
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Again, I m going to talk more about the whole I the whole I m I the asshole thing.
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It s like the whole the declaration of asshole or not asshole is an unhelpful.
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Dang, it s like, what are we gonna do?
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You know, moving forward?
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What s gonna make your life?
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The best?
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You know, that s what you want, right?
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Yeah.
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So yeah, so for me, personally, I definitely don t want to go.
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The real question is,
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Like, whether or not, like, I really don t want to sit down and ask him or even put it in his mind.
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You know, if he doesn t consider that he wants to go, then I m not going to go out of the way to be like, are you sure you don t want to go?
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You know?
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Well, if he says he only wants to go to beat up another kid, don t let him go.
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Yeah.
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Well, that s the only reason he wants to see his cousin in general.
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Occasionally he will ask about it and I ll tell him like, nah, you know, we re not going over there.
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And then he ll tell me that he would really like to, you know, size this kid up.
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And I m like, that s not healthy.
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Um, look, I know that this is kind of what my podcast is about.
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Actually, you know what?
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No, I don t think this.
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I don t.
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I don t know.
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Maybe you can make an argument that this is what my podcast is about, but I don t think this is what my podcast is about.
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But anyway, don t try and seek validation about your life choices from strangers.
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No, what you say is not going to be the end all be all.
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Okay, good, good.
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Don t take anything I say or someone else s.
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I think it s a good opportunity for me to get a completely clean opinion to consider.
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You know, because everybody that knows about the situation, obviously, has a stake in it.
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Why did the people on the internet think you were in the wrong?
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I didn t really get a response from the people on the internet because the mods of M.I.
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the Asshole took it down because it had sexual content or whatever.
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So it got taken down before I really, maybe one or two replies and that was it.
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And they were just cursory.
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You know, they weren t, they didn t even have enough time to get any attention.
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So I don t really know what the court of public opinion would have said on, am I the asshole?
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Which is why I m calling.
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Um, you, Jamie, you said, how many, how many kids do you have?
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Um, I have one that lives with me and one that lives with her father.
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Okay.
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Are you, are you, are, are you dating anyone married to anyone?
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I m married.
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Okay.
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Do you have a job?
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I do.
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I m a teacher.
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Oh, that s great.
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Do you have hobbies and interests?
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Yeah, I have a few, mostly my kids, but I do have some hobbies that are truly my own.
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Okay.
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Um, here s what I would do if I were you.
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Do you want to hear it?
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And I ll only tell you this if you want to hear it.
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Yeah, I would love to know.
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I think you should decide whether or not you re going to go to the grandparents funeral.
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OK, and then once you make that decision, you should stop thinking about it and either go spend time with your husband, go spend time with your kid, go enjoy your hobbies or go think about how you can be the best teacher you can be.
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OK, go live your life.
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That s such great advice.
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Such great advice.
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And you know, and here s the and here s the thing, all of the and the great thing is that all of what I just said, you can do all of it.
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Even if you are the asshole, according to Reddit.
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Isn t that the beautiful thing about life?
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It is.
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It is.
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It is.
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Jamie, is there anything else you want to say to the people of the... Go ahead.
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Jamie, is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
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Have a good night.
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Thank you, dude.
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Oh my god.
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Hi, who is this?
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Um, hi, my name is Vaughn.
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Svan?
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay, Svan.
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Uh, how old are you, Svan?
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18.
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Okay.
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Um, what s up?
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What s going on?
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What did you call to talk about?
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Um, so, I have an obsession with fictional characters, and I don t mean that in, like, the typical way, where it s, like, someone who, like, can t get a girl, and they re, like, and, like, you know, like, they re, like, an incel and stuff, so, like,
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they can t really get a relationship because they don t know how to socialize with real people.
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I am in a relationship, it s more of like with fictional characters, you don t actually have to have that vulnerability with them so it s like a one-sided attachment and stuff but I literally am so obsessed with them that it s consumed my life.
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All right, so you are in a... So you re attracted to these fictional characters because this attraction... It s cringy, but... Well, okay, but you said you re attracted to these fictional characters because you say that the lack of intimacy is what is appealing.
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Yeah, because I don t actually have to be vulnerable.
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I can get to know them, but they don t have to get to know me.
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Yeah, it s great.
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It s great.
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I get you.
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I get you.
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But yet you are in a you have a boyfriend.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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I am confused.
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You just said you re in a relationship of some kind.
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Oh, yeah.
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I m what s in what s called a queer platonic relationship.
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So I m not I m not straight.
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So I have two partners.
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you re in a queer platonic relationship with two partners.
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It s kind of hard to explain.
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It s like when you re more than friends, but not exactly like you wouldn t exactly do sexual shit with them.
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Like a like a like a situation ship?
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No, it s different.
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It s kind of hard to explain when you re not.
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Basically, it s like, I describe it as like, basically, it s like being
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or in a relationship as if you were asexual.
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That s basically to sum it up.
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Like think of it that way.
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Do you do you consider and you don t have to fucking tell me anything you don t want to but do you do you consider yourself asexual?
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Um, no, it s more of like, I don t know.
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I feel like it s more of like, the reason why I like obsess over fictional characters.
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It s more of like, I feel like if people were to actually know me, they wouldn t like me.
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So it s easier to just pretend to be attached to people that aren t real.
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Yeah, sure.
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Sure.
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You ever fuck around on chat GPT?
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Oh yeah, that s mainly what I m talking about.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you ever use the Snapchat AI?
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SPEAKER_01
Oh no, that one sucks.
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Okay, well...
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Alright, so you re in a... Queer, platonic... Yeah.
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Alright.
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Is this a romance?
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So, I guess what I don t... Is this a romantic kind of relationship?
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Are you... Actually, you know what?
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You know what?
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Actually, I m thinking about it.
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I actually don t really care about the specifics of this.
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Whatever this relationship is... Here s what I m saying.
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Here s what I m getting at.
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Whatever the... Whatever... Who cares about the specifics?
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Is this predicament... In a broad sense...
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making you happy?
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Yes.
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Okay, great.
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As an individual, you know, relationships don t solve your problems.
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Like you have to fix them on your own.
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So like, it s not, I still have these like, feelings, you know,
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Okay, all right, so you re in a Some form of a of a of a predicament that is satisfying the need you have in your in your relationships aren t Real it s more of like because of my own issues.
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I still like Well, hold on.
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Let me let me let me let me let me Slow down for a second.
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What do you mean your relationship is not real?
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Oh
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No, no, I didn t say that.
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I said it s not that s it s like it s not that it s not fulfilling it is it s more of like and also like I m polyamorous so like it s not it s not exactly like
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Oh, like this isn t, you know, this isn t benefiting me.
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This isn t what I, what I want.
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It s more of like, it really has nothing to do with my actual relationship.
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I only brought that up because a lot of the times when people think of someone who s like obsessed with fictional characters, they come to like, they picture someone who hasn t, who needs to touch grass.
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So like my actual relationship isn t really relevant.
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Okay.
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So, so, okay.
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So, so.
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Then in that case, what aspect of this situation where you are in love with fictional characters, in what ways, or in what aspect, is it causing you distress?
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If it even is.
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It s more of like... It s more of like the reasons for why I m doing it, rather.
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Like...
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It takes, like, I spend a lot of my days, like, a lot of the time in the day, um, just interacting with stuff instead of, like, real people.
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So that s not, you know.
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Do you, do you desire to go out and interact with more people?
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I think it s more of, like, I focus too much on, like,
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you know, fictional characters instead of interacting with real people.
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Okay.
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Again, do you do desire to go out and interact with real people?
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No, I do.
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Okay.
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It s okay.
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It s okay.
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If you don t.
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So I m saying, but if you do, but if you do, okay, what do you think?
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What are you afraid of?
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Um, I mean, I feel like a lot of people have this, but like the deep
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really insecurity that like people it s like people got to know me like a hundred percent they wouldn t like me okay um it s okay if you have a hard time answering this but why do you feel that way um not gonna go into detail but you know trauma okay um and it s um it s hard because you know you think that like
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If you re surrounded by people that love you and care about you, you would think that eventually those thoughts would go away.
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But when you re told for most of your life that all these negative things, it s hard to erase that.
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So it s like no matter what people say, it s not enough to convince you otherwise.
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And it s not exactly like I m not trying to stop those thoughts.
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When you say you re you re trying to stop those thoughts what I mean like what do you what do you do?
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What do you what do you do?
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Yes, so so are you Do you go to real therapy?
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Yeah, I do.
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Okay.
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What do they tell you in real therapy?
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Well, I mean I like they just say like affirmations
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Like, I honestly, like, I just only did this because, like, I am serious, like, I m not making this up, but I did this because, like, you know what?
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I wanna do things like I wanna do in life, and this is one of the things, you know?
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I m being a little bit adventurous, so, like, I m not, like, using this as an outlet for, like, actual therapy.
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Not that I m making shit up and stuff.
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You re not using what as an actual outlet for therapy?
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Um, you.
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I mean...
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Okay.
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Sure.
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But I m just, I m just, I m just, I m just, I m just trying to think of like, yeah.
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What s going to help.
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I just thought it d be interesting to hear someone else s, um, an outside perspective because this is, um, some aspects I do talk about, but like, you know, when it s a, when it s a complete stranger, it s easier to talk about, you know, like the fictional character aspects.
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And when does my real therapist, like, I m, I m vague about it, but give enough details that like,
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They they can help me, but yeah.
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OK, what s your name again?
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So it s fun, fun, fun.
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I m gonna call you, I m gonna call you, I m gonna call you Jennifer because for some reason the phone keeps cutting out every time that you try to tell me your name.
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SPEAKER_01
Okay, um... Jennifer... I m... Tell me this, okay, so you re, what, are you graduating high school or are you going into college?
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Where are you at?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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Okay, what are you gonna go to school for?
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Um, I don t really know yet.
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All right.
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Um, cause look, all the things you re talking about, you, you re in a good position to, uh, uh, go out into the universe and you re in a good position to go out into the universe and meet these real people.
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At a certain point, I think, I don t know, I think a lot about this stuff, and I think at a certain point there s a little bit of that, Nike, just do it.
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that you gotta surmise in your blood veins.
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And once you know what the it is, right?
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Whether it s, I don t know if you re going to college, but if you re in college, you re going out to the fucking science club, whatever you re into.
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I don t know what you re into, but you re putting yourself out there.
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You re making that decision to put yourself out there.
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And you re understanding that
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this idea that people are inherently not going to like you is an idea that somebody else planted within you and now you as an adult do not have to dwell on the past and hold yourself to this idea that another person has implanted within you.
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Thank you.
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Um, so I hope you understand that.
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I hope that, um, that, that empowers you.
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And you know what, if you want to, if you, and you know what also as an adult, if you want to fucking go look at naked pictures of Jimmy Neutron on your off days, you can do that shit too.
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So don t freak out about it.
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Okay.
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Fawn, Jennifer, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Um... Don t be afraid to be you.
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It s okay to be cringe.
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As long as you re not hurting anyone.
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Have a good rest of the night.
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SPEAKER_00
Alright, thanks.
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There s some great naked pictures of Jimmy Neutron out there on the internet.
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And, uh...
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I think a lot about staying in versus going out and that s a lot of what we just talked about This whole thing of like I m on the computer.
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I can t stop looking at at hentai but yet I And I want to go meet real people sometimes staying in is nice To a degree.
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There s a balance there.
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I don t know what that balance is and it s different for different people I have my own little balance
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I was thinking about this.
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I was talking about this on my Instagram thing.
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You know.
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Really feel like I ve done a good amount of going out and talking to real people in my life both personally and You know on this show and in in In talking to real people across the world doing all the travel and doing all this touring and stuff You know I ve really gone.
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I ve really done a lot of putting myself out there, but also forgetting about all that stuff I ve spent way more time
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sitting at home looking at hentai you know so so there s a balance there s a balance that s all i m trying to say hello joe yes what s up joe how you doing good how are you um i m actually i m actually feeling pretty
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pretty good.
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I m excited to talk.
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I like to hear that.
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I m a big fan of the show.
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Thanks, man.
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It s funny because when I listen to the Spotify podcast, I play it 1.2 times
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I know you re talking normally, but it seems to me that you re talking very slowly, but it s just the way it is That s actually a good idea.
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I think I m a big fan of that.
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I think I think I have a good podcast to listen to on a 1.5 speed I feel I sometimes think I talk a little bit slow and when I when I go to like edit my clips and stuff I ll also I ll listen on 1.5 speed and
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I find that 1.2 is the sweet spot for me, but you have a very good 1.2 speed sound.
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Do you listen to other podcasts on 1.5 or just me?
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Or 1.2, whatever your frequency is?
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1.2 is my go-to.
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I don t want to rush through it too quickly.
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I want to still savor the podcast, but sometimes things can feel too slow.
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It s efficient.
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It s efficient.
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Joe, it s cool if you don t, but is there anything you wanted to talk about in particular today?
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So there was something I want to talk about.
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I don t know how you would think about it, but I just want to call in and share my opinion.
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I live in this place and to get to another place, I have to cross a bridge.
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And since I was a little kid, we ve as a family and a car,
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I ve driven across this bridge many times at the other end of at the bottom of the bridge at one end is a water treatment facility.
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I don t know if you ve driven past one, but it smells like shit.
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Sorry, I can t say that.
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But it smells like poop.
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And when I was a kid, we d always roll you I just allies.
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I m sorry.
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I don t want to interrupt you.
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But you listen to the podcast, right?
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I do.
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You, you can nevermind.
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I just, it s just, it s always funny when people are like asking if they can cuss and it s like the, you know, people, people cuss all the time, but go ahead.
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I m sorry.
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I don t know why I interrupted you.
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It s off.
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That s the thing.
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So I drive over this bridge many times and I ll kind of speed it up, but the long story short, it smells like poop.
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And when I was a kid, we hated the smell.
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I hated the smell.
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I rolled up the window, turn off the AC.
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But recently, over the last few years, as a young adult now, I ve actually come to the realization I actually like the smell.
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And it s kind of like I was listening to an episode where this caller was talking about a kink.
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And I think this might be mine, where whenever I come across a bridge, I ll roll down the window and I ll take a sniff as I m going across the bridge.
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And sometimes
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It smells really sour, but sometimes you don t smell anything at all.
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I guess there s just not enough poop in the water to make it smell.
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But every time you cross the bridge, I get a little excited.
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So your kink is that when you smell poop, you think of family car rides.
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But not any, like only specifically over this bridge, over the water treatment facility.
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What s your name?
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Your name is Joe, right?
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Joe.
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Joe, I don t think you know what a kink is.
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Maybe I don t.
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Do you?
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What do you?
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This is this is not a kink.
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I mean, I mean, I mean, like, I m perceived as like a normal thing.
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Is this is this a sexual thing?
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No, no, nothing at all sexual.
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Okay, I don t, you know, gets me excited.
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Yeah, I think you can have things that get you excited that are not necessarily kinks.
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Kinks would be something sexual.
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Okay, I guess.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Or I don t I don t know actually I don t know the official definition of kink you might be right but at least probably at least this is what the societal interpretation of a kink if you go around saying that your kink is that when you smell poop it reminds you of a very fond memory you have with your family that wouldn t come off I think the way that you think it would
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Hmm interesting.
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Yeah, but you re excited Yeah, so I wouldn t continue to refer to that as a kink it s a nice thing though Thank you so when you Go over this bridge and you smell poop it reminds you it s sort of heads.
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This is this is nostalgia.
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This is more Nostalgia.
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Yeah, then it would be a sexual kink.
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Oh
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Yes, but it s also a thing where I look forward to it.
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And I, I m always fascinated by the different types of smell that this place kind of gives out into the world.
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And I always wonder what it s going to smell like the day I drive over it.
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You know, the next time I, I don t drive the bridge every day.
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So whenever I do cross it, I always wonder what it s going to smell like.
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And then I roll down the window and then you get a good whiff.
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You close the window and you think about it.
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Do any of these smells make you hard?
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Oh, I don t think so.
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No.
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Okay.
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Then it s not a kink.
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Um, and look, it d be fine if it was, I mean, some people s kink is, um, you know, bad stuff, but that s, you re fine.
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What s your name?
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Joe.
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Sorry.
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Well, Joe, thanks for sharing that.
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Are you planning on where, where, where s this bridge located?
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Where you don t have to dox yourself if it s, if, if you think the information would dox you, but where, where, where is this bridge located?
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If any of our listeners want to go smell the same smell.
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It s located, uh, I guess just near the border, uh, at the beautiful British Columbia.
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Okay, so it s on the border of British Columbia.
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It s just by the city of Vancouver.
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I think you were here recently.
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Oh, okay, cool.
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Vancouver is a beautiful city.
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It smells wonderful.
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Joe, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Nothing.
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All right.
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Take care, Joe.
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Thank you for calling the show.
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Take care.
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I do- I do think that s a- I like that as a concept, though.
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This idea that, um... So, okay, I know this.
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Scientifically, that the memory is in the hippo campus.
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And so is smell, I think.
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And so that s why smells are so heavily addicted.
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So heavily associated with memory.
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And that is a funny concept of, you know, smells can be associated with certain memories and the smell doesn t necessarily have to be good to link to the memory.
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So you could smell something bad like poop and it can link to
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a beautiful memory of a family car ride.
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It also works the other way around.
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You could smell, um, donuts and it could remind you of a time where your father tried to strangle you with one.
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It s an interesting concept.
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Thank you for sharing that, Joe.
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Hello folks, it s Lyle.
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This is the end of the episode.
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The episode has ended, but get this, I have a whole other episode, a whole 54 minute bonus episode that is available to supercast
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So anyway, here s a little clip from this week s bonus episode.
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What s going on, man?
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Last year, I got arrested, actually twice.
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I currently have four felonies.
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What what exactly got you into that situation?
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I was walking around this little tiny town and I later realized that I was actually overdosing.
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So I was pretty much
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kind of dying and the cops, somebody called them because I was just wandering around and they knew I wasn t doing well, the person that called them.
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And when the cops walked over to me, I don t remember it, but I just completely attacked them.
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All right.
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OK, this is it s really the end now.
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It s really the end of the podcast.
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I m pacing around my room and pulling at my hair while I m recording this voice memo on my iPhone.
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And I don t feel very good.
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He goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.
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Therapy kid goes doing it right, teaching you how to live your life.
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But he s not really an expert.