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In order for us to find love, a part of us must die.
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Why do we need to die to find love or part of us?
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Because anything that s not loving us must die.
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And that s the difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
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Welcome to the School of Greatness.
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My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
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And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
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Thanks for spending some time with me today.
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Now let the class begin.
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Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness.
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Very excited about our guest.
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We have the inspiring Joe Dispenza in the house.
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Dr. Joe Dispenza, we have had you on the show many times and I think you re probably the most requested person back that we have had.
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And the last time we did an interview about love.
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self-love, loving others, and relationships.
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It got over 10 million views with a couple of different, you know, in Spanish and English translations.
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And for some reason, people just really wanted to understand the concepts
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Not of how to find the right partner or any of these different things, but really how to love themselves better.
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If you want to attract or manifest a great relationship, what I understood from that previous interview was you ve really got to learn how to love yourself better and that
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is all about doing the work to overcome the old you that holds you back or that has made you attract people that maybe hurt you or upset you or let you down.
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But also, I feel like a lot of people haven t learned how to fully love themselves.
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And so, you re not a relationship expert, but for whatever reason, over 10 million people wanted to watch your content on love and relationships.
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And, you know, I m not here to ask you about your personal relationships, but you ve worked with, trained, and coached tens of thousands of people that come to your events who go on to have beautiful relationships, first with themselves, which I think is the most important thing, but then eventually, you know, they rekindle relationships that are maybe struggling.
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They really become a different person and attract from a conscious, healthy place and have more love in their life.
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And I think a lot of people want to get out of pain and they want to feel peace, harmony, and love.
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And one of the highest frequencies that I learned about from your event by going to your advanced meditation retreat was that the frequency of gratitude and love allows you to bring just more goodness in your life.
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And that comes with relationships and, and attracting others who bring you that loving mirror.
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So I know this is something that you don t talk about that much, but I feel like you have a lot of wisdom around brain and heart coherency, which allows you to attract a healthier love for self, a healthier love for the world, and a healthier love in relationships.
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And I d love to explore more of this based on what we talked about before.
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So thank you for being here.
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Thank you for being here and being willing to talk about this.
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I know this is uncomfortable.
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But people are so, they resonate with you as a human and your wisdom and your experience.
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You ve been doing this work for a long time.
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And I m curious, why do you think people struggle, first off, with learning to love themselves and be in a healthy relationship with self?
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Why is that?
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Is it because they re disappointed about their past and they re stuck in the memory of the past?
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Is it because they ve been let down in relationships by their parents and then by their siblings or by intimate partners?
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Or is it just they don t believe they re worthy of love?
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Yeah, I think at our true core, at our true source, is pure love.
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That s what I think it is.
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And I think there s always more love to experience.
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I don t think there s an end to that.
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So people who hate themselves will hate others.
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And people who are angry with themselves will be angry at others.
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People who are impatient with others will be impatient with themselves, will be impatient with others.
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People who are unhappy with themselves will punish other people until they feel unhappy.
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It s just our nature as human beings, but when people are truly grateful for themselves or for their life, they re grateful for others.
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People who love themselves naturally love others.
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People who are okay finally with themselves are okay with others.
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That s just kind of how it is.
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So one of the things that people have as a limitation, uh, to the understanding of love is that they re feeling something other than it.
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And in order for us to find love, a part of us must die.
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Ooh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Why, why, why do we need to die to find love or part of us?
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Because anything that s not loving us must die.
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Oh, and that s the difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
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Right.
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So, um, so one of the things that,
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we want to teach people in the work that we do is to understand how to manage their energy, right?
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And how to manage their attention.
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When you feel love, which is just a word, by the way, and people have their own experience of what that is.
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you tend to feel more whole.
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And when you feel more whole, you tend to want less.
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When you truly feel love, it is very different than being selfish.
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You re kind of more selfless.
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And when you re in your heart, you re more prone to give, more prone to care.
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You re more prone to be present.
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You re more prone to be grateful.
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You re more prone to be kind that s the consciousness of that center.
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It is the the creative center It s the union of opposites that s the union polarities is where oneness where divinity starts, right?
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There s can t be enough enough said about that Center.
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So I
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If you just did an inventory of the amount of time you feel love during the day and the amount of time you feel other emotions like resentment or impatience or frustration or judgment or jealousy, any other one of those emotions, that is the opposite of love.
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Fear is not the opposite of love, it is the separation from love.
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Pain and suffering, they re not the opposite of love, they re the separation from it.
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That anger and hatred and hostility and violence, they re not the opposite of love, they re the separation from love.
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So then you re living in survival, and living in survival is living in stress, and living in stress produces a cocktail of chemicals and hormones that make you feel something other than love.
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Turns out the majority of time people are feeling something other than love, and they re feeling some of those other emotions.
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So you only get good at what you practice, right?
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And those emotions will drive certain human behaviors that are primarily universal,
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and will cause us to think in very predictable ways.
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the separation from love because of an event or a trauma or whatever it is, causes people to view their life through a different lens than love, right?
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Okay, so teach a person how to stop feeling those emotions of survival, right?
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Because in survival, it s not a time to create.
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When you re in survival, it s not a time to communicate.
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It s not a time to learn.
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It s not a time to cooperate.
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It s not a time to get along It s time to run fight or hide and when you re in survival, you re very selfish.
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You re self-indulgent.
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You re self-important You re self-aggrandizing and you re full of self-pity.
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It s all about the self or self and self-involved in so many ways um
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And that means that once I m okay, and I m happy, then everybody else could be happy.
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And so in survival, and we re feeling those emotions, we re doing everything we can to make that feeling go away, right?
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So it turns out that if you re in that state where you re in survival, and it s not a time to create, or not a time to love, or not a time to open your heart,
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Not a time to learn You re compromised in a lot of ways so bring that into a relationship a relationship with peers with with co-workers with relatives with family with a partner Then the fundamental question is
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Yeah, what would love do in a relationship?
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That s I think that s a really important question now we have different relationships with different people and because we ve Had experiences with different people because we ve had experiences with them We have neurological circuitry that is a memory that that we can relate to that person In fact, I see you based on the memory I have of you I m filling in my idea of Lewis based on my memory of him.
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Yeah, really?
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I don t see things how they are.
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I see things how I am, right?
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So your brain only can see equal to how it s mapped.
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So based on my experience, I super like you.
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You re a great guy.
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We get along.
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We have a lot of things in common.
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And so I see you that way.
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And the feeling that I have from my interactions with you
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causes me to be attracted to you, like you re a cool guy, we hang out, we have great conversations.
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And so when I see you, there is a sense of love, there s an energy, there s a connection, there s camaraderie, there s some type of union, right?
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Those are healthy relationships.
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And as long as we re honoring one another, that relationship will continue and foster really great outcomes.
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You have a relationship with someone like an ex or someone who s betrayed you.
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You have a different memory of that person based on your experience.
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Which triggers a different feeling, right?
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Which triggers a different feeling that s based on experience.
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And so then it makes sense then that the stronger the emotion you feel towards that person,
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the more you pay attention to them.
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And where you place your attention is where you place your energy.
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So you re giving your power away to change to that person or that circumstance, and it s entirely possible that your reality is staying the same because your energy is the same.
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And you, in fact, are contributing to that reality staying exactly unchangeable, right?
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So then you take a person,
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And they ve had a moderately difficult past.
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Everybody s got a story, but when does the story end?
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Right.
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And now is the new later, right?
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I mean, it really is.
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Now is the new later.
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Yeah.
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If you want to change that now, okay, so the person understands fundamentally they haven t changed since that event.
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They re feeling the same emotion they felt from 20 years ago, and somehow their personality is in the past, right?
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Okay, so the person then has to overcome that emotional state.
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And so they re sitting in the meditation and that s part of their identity and meditation is getting beyond yourself.
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And as you re sitting there, all of a sudden you start getting frustrated and angry and resentful towards your ex.
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You want to have two choices, just go fully down that rabbit hole for the next hour and see how that feels at the end or ask yourself, is this loving to me?
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Justified or not, the only person it s going to affect is me.
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Is this loving to me or for me?
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That was either one.
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Okay, so if I could in my meditation really say, okay, this isn t loving to me.
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I know this isn t right.
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Even though I want to make them wrong.
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I m just going to work.
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I m going to work on settling my body down from that emotional state.
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If I m successful at regulating that emotion, no longer allowing the body to feel that emotion, inhibiting that thought and feeling that image and emotion, I m breaking that conditioning response.
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If I m successful at doing that, if I lower the volume to that emotion, I m gonna take my attention off that person or problem, which means I m gonna be taking my power back, right?
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Because I m gonna drop my energy, I m gonna build my own field, right?
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I m no longer giving them
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My power to change, energetically.
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I m no longer giving them my attention, my energy.
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If I overcome the emotion, I ll take my attention off that person, and I ll begin to build my own electromagnetic field.
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Now there s energy to create.
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Now there s energy to heal.
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Now there s energy for a whole new future.
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And lo and behold, when you lower the volume to that emotion, you take your attention off that person, that s forgiveness.
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Wow.
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Because if you don t feel the emotion any longer, then you no longer have your attention on that person, and your life truly changes.
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you ll never hold on to that emotion again.
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But why are so many people holding on to resentment of what someone did in a relationship in their past versus allowing them to find forgiveness and peace about it?
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Maybe not agreeing that it was okay what they did, but why do people hold on to resentment for so long or anger about a past?
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I think it s because people are afraid it s going to happen to them again.
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And when we have a traumatic event, big or small, in fact, you re always on the lookout for any signal in the environment, any person or circumstance that s going to be the smallest cue that s going to say, oh, I ve done this before.
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I better get ready for it.
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So we re in a constant state of bad news waiting for the worst case scenario.
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So let me just finish this.
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The question really was about self-love.
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The person who lives in resentment is making themselves unhappy.
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A person who s judging everybody else because they re judging themselves is making themselves unhappy.
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A person who s complaining, blaming, making excuses, feel sorry for themselves, they re making themselves unhappy.
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There s nobody doing that to them.
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You say it s your ex, okay, let s take your ex, let s put him in a straight jacket, let s shoot him to the moon.
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Now what?
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You re still thinking that way and feeling that way, and that person is no longer in your life.
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You re defined by that story, by that past event, okay?
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The person s truly sincere and thinks there s something other than that emotion of resentment.
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What s on the other side of it?
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Am I willing to sit through it long enough?
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And no matter how much the pain is or what my body does, I m gonna sit this one out.
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I m gonna work with my body and keep bringing it back into the present moment.
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It s like training now.
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You keep doing it over and over and you stay, you stay, you stay.
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I m not getting up, I m not eating, I m not moving.
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We re gonna keep lowering the volume.
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You keep reconditioning the body to a new mind.
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Sooner or later, it surrenders.
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It surrenders to a new mind.
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When that occurs, there s that liberation of energy and energy moves into the heart and you feel love for yourself.
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You feel a respect for yourself.
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You feel an honor for yourself.
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Something, you took your power back.
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You know, you built your field.
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Something feels right.
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When we look at
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the data of people who do this.
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And we see their scans, their brain scans, we see their HRV measurements, and they get good at this.
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We measure their oxytocin levels.
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Now, oxytocin is the love chemical, right?
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It s made in the pituitary gland.
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It is the love chemical, causes us to bond, to connect, to unify.
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And when I showed the values of oxytocin levels with these people to scientists, they re sometimes 200 times above normal.
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Now that s not a little love.
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That s a lot of love.
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It s an explosion of love.
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It s a lot of love.
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So oxytocin signals nitric oxide.
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And nitric oxide signals another chemical called endothelial derived relaxing factor.
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And that chemical causes the arteries in your heart and your lungs to literally open up and blood flows into your heart and your heart is filled with energy.
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Just like when it engorges the sexual organs.
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There s an engorgement of blood in there and it activates it with energy and there s a mind that s created.
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It s a consciousness.
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Now if this one opens up, it s a whole different consciousness.
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In fact,
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The research on oxytocin shows that the slightest elevation in oxytocin, it s impossible to hold a grudge.
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It s impossible.
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You say, dude, I feel so good.
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I m good.
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No, no, no.
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I m good.
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I m really good.
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That kind of state means I don t want to feel anything else but this.
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So I am not going to compromise myself or my energy to a lower denominator just because of you.
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In fact, I m really good around you.
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I m really okay.
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I feel so good.
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I don t want to judge you because I don t want to lose this feeling.
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So then imagine being around a cat like that.
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Being around a person like that, that s really easy to be around because they re okay with themselves.
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And when they re okay with themselves, they relate with people differently.
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In fact, they relate with them unconditionally.
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They just love them unconditionally and that causes an attraction, it causes a bond, right?
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So, one of the things I learned last year in watching people, you know, in this work and week-long events, I do my best to pay really close attention.
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Looked out at an audience one day and I looked out in the room, just, we ve just finished a walking meditation.
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Everybody sat down and I kind of glanced around the room and everybody had this radiant smile.
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And I said to them, Hey, who s making you happy by the way?
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Who?
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Who s making you happy?
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There s nobody doing that to you.
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You re doing that to you.
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You re making yourself.
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I mean, you re not relying on anybody in your life to do that.
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Now, that is an attractive energy.
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That s the person who relates well with money.
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There s a relationship with money.
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They relate well with people.
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They re very giving, they re very caring.
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They want nothing in return.
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They re more present because that s who they re practicing being.
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And so there s a natural affinity, a natural attraction because the person is really present and they re really okay.
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And something is different about them.
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Something is unique about them.
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So the relationship we have with people when we re in that state where we re really okay with ourselves, where we ve made ourselves happy, we re really happy with ourselves.
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allows us to love just about, we ll find...
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Find beauty through the lens of love in anything, and no one else sees it, right?
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Getting there is the overcoming process.
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That is what creates self-love.
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Now, to be very clear, I think many people, I think I ll include myself, we confuse pleasure
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with love, and it s not the same thing.
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What s the difference?
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Well, pleasure is doing something that makes you feel good, but has nothing to do with love.
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Love has everything to do with something that you feel independent of pleasure.
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When you overcome yourself and you arrive at your goal, you reach your dream, you never give up on yourself, you had hard moments, you fell to your knees, you brushed yourself up, you got up, and you showed up again for yourself,
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It s amazing to watch this.
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I watch it at week-long events.
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I watch people literally change in seven days, and they showed up when they said, I m too tired, I have a handicap, I have a disease, I don t understand how rough my pass is, I m an addict, I was in jail, my mother was abusive.
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They showed up in spite of, I m too old, whatever that is.
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They you keep showing up for yourself.
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You start feeling really worthy Really worthy to receive and the universe only gives us what we think we re worthy of receiving, right?
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So so in when you re in love you re in a whole lot less lack and if you re in a whole lot less lack of
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In a sense, you re moving closer to source.
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And that s a really good feeling.
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That s a really good feeling.
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So practice that every day.
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Practice that every day in your relationships with people, your relationship with your body, your relationship with money, your relationship with your phone, your relationship with your car, your relationship with everything.
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would be different.
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And so the overcoming process is the becoming process.
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You make yourself happy.
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You no longer need anybody to do that for you.
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You have a person in your life who is conscious that wants to make themselves happy and share their joy and their love with somebody.
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Well, you have something really unique.
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It s really special.
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And love is a bonding, a very bonding chemical.
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It s a very bonding energy.
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If you look at oxytocin levels in mammals,
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You typically see it when the female has just given birth and she s grooming the offspring and she s touching it and licking it and nudging it and taking care of it.
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Those oxytocin levels are released through the limbic brain, through the midbrain.
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That s the bonding brain.
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They re smelling, they re connecting, and they re attracting one another.
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It s creating a connection.
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a honeymoon stage of relationship where there s a lot of intense connection, a lot of intimacy, releases oxytocin, creates monogamy, creates a bond that creates unity, creates connection, right?
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So show the values to some of the scientists and some of my colleagues and they see oxytocin levels 200 times, normally they re like, dude, what are you doing?
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What is going on?
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Is it couples week?
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What is going on here?
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I say the same thing, I say, number one, I want people to fall in love with their future, just like they fall in love with another person, because if they do, they re bonded to that future, just like they re bonded to another person.
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Secondly, if you truly, truly want to connect to pure love,
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to source, to singularity, to oneness, to wholeness, to the fertile void, to vacuum energy, whatever you want to call that, universal intelligence, that s pure consciousness, that s pure love.
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If you hit that moment where you hit connection, you will feel that arousal of love.
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It ll be profoundly memorable for you.
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And it s not chemical, it s electric.
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It s very electric.
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So you hit a few of those, it becomes you.
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And you become it.
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And so your love for the divine, your love for the mystical, your love for the unseen, your love for source, the love affair begins.
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And it s like being in love.
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No one can tell you re in love.
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You just know it.
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And it gets really hard to miss a date.
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Imagine you go and connect every day and you start your day from that place.
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That s a relationship.
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That s a relationship with the world that you re bringing.
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So I think the overcoming process is part of it.
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I think it s practicing getting to that place.
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I think it s practicing opening our hearts more, moving out of survival, working with our bodies.
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In survival, it s not a time to love.
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It s just, it s not a time to communicate.
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So your relationship that s built on emotions other than love, there s going to be a limit to love, right?
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And so
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You got betrayed, someone else got betrayed, you get together, talk about your betrayal, work yourself up into a froth, feel the emotions, get emotional agreement, get a connection.
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You re connecting the same energy, the same emotion, because you re sharing the same information, you re sharing the same memories, and you can relate with one another.
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That s a certain level of consciousness.
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at your events and your retreats.
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I was at one a year ago.
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I think there was 2,500 people there, the one that I went to.
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And there was a lot of different people from all walks of life, from all over the world.
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I would say a majority of the people were, you know, above 30, you know, from people I met.
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And a lot of people had been in relationships.
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Some people had been in divorce and some people had been in intimacy for a long time with their partner and they were there together.
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They were growing and transforming together, right?
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Reinventing their relationship and expanding into the mystical together and all these different beautiful things.
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for all the people that you ve seen have successful long-term relationships.
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What is the thing that you see them do extremely well versus... Forgive.
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Yeah.
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They forgive each other, they forgive... Yeah, they forgive the emotion.
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No, the emotion is going to keep you in the past, right?
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So, they have to be able to forgive.
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What happens if we don t forgive something that our partner or in a relationship does?
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If it hurts us or they said something or they did something, maybe it was really bad or just... If you can t forgive, you ll never have love.
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The love that we withhold is the pain that we experience lifetime after lifetime.
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It s how it is.
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Say it again?
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The love that we withhold is the pain that we experience lifetime after lifetime.
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Oh, man.
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And then when we master our emotions, we master our creations.
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So that s a creation.
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And and you have to overcome the memory and the emotion and when you do you belong to the future instead of the past Oh, man, so so otherwise Well, that s a perfect explanation of karma You live by that emotion that emotion is gonna drive a certain behavior and cause you to think a certain way and you re on the wheel
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People are living the same lifetime every day.
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They re on cycles.
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They re living the same lifetime after lifetime because they haven t overcome the emotion.
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No one s doing that to them.
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The soul can t go to the future, can t go.
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It can t go if it s stuck in the emotion of the past.
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So the soul has to overcome the event by overcoming the emotion.
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Forget what happened.
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You ll never hear me say to anybody, tell me your story.
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I will never say that.
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I would never do that to you.
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I would say, overcome the emotion.
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And then the story ends.
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Wow.
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Because the memory without that emotional charge is the wisdom we get from the experience.
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We never have to do it again.
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And now the soul says, okay, I m ready for the next adventure.
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Okay, so I was betrayed.
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Okay, I learned the lesson.
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I did this, I did that.
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Okay, I got it.
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But we discovered that when people analyze their life within some disturbing emotion, they make their brain worse 100% of the time.
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Holy cow.
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Because you re thinking in the past, the answer s not there.
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Overcome the emotion.
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Actually, thinking about it makes the brain worse.
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It drives them into higher states of arousal.
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Overcome the emotion, you have the answer to your own question.
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It s because it s not in the known.
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It s not in the past.
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You gotta get beyond it.
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So I say to people, when they ask me questions, just seven days, just cross the river.
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You re gonna have the answers to your own questions.
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There s gonna be no better life coach for you than you.
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Right, right.
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So then the person who shows up worthy in their life,
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A person who s happy because they re making themselves happy, that s such an unknown for everybody that they ve just left and showed back up in their life or they usually complain with.
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They re like, oh my God, this person s joined a cult.
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Oh my God, this person seems way too happy and they re happy without me.
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And really it s just an energy that the person has broken out of the chains.
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They free themselves from the chains of the past, right?
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And so that doesn t mean that they don t get frustrated, don t get angry.
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They just don t waste their time staying there because living by that emotion will create a gap between the way things appear and the way things really are.
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Wow.
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And if we respond during that period, we ll always say the same thing.
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Should ve never said that.
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I should ve never done that.
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I should ve never sent that email or that text.
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You re altered in some way.
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So learning to shorten the refractory period of your emotional response is emotional
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intelligence right and getting really good at that then allows a person to show up differently and when people when people create the life they want which happens a lot
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Why would they hold a grudge?
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Why would they do that?
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They trust.
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They free themselves and they free that person.
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Everybody s been betrayed.
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Everybody s been hurt.
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But if your life is wonderful, who cares?
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Whoa, I wasn t conscious or whatever.
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And then now it s when your life isn t working.
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It ain t working and you re living by the same emotion and that passes you re gonna keep it alive But you re the only one keeping it alive.
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Where did where is it?
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Where is your past?
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Where is it?
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It s only there, right?
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It s in a memory.
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It s a memory not here.
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Yeah, it s not here.
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So then people spend enormous amounts of time not even knowing
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not even aware that they re living in that state and always predicting the default mode network in the brain is always predicting the next moment based on what it s learned in the past, right?
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If you re holding a grudge of the past, it s going to predict that in the future.
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You re just going to get ready for the next one.
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You re recreating the past.
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Your future is your past.
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Oh, man.
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And, and, and there s, and that s all the known, right?
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So getting a person to no longer live in the predictable future, you know, where they re just habituated, where they get up and do things and they re on a program.
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Getting a person that s the predictable future is the known familiar past is the known living by the emotion, remembering the event.
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If the familiar past is the known and the predictable future is the known, there s only one place where the unknown can be, and that s the present moment.
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Getting a person to labor for the present moment liberates energy in the body, and that s when the person starts feeling more like themselves, and they don t feel as altered.
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And so, you overcome the emotion of resentment, just use this as an example, like sitting in the fire for a week and just facing off with it and just working with your body and retraining it to a new mind.
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I guarantee you,
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that when you see your ex, you ll see a part of you you used to be that you no longer are, and you ll have nothing but compassion and love for her.
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And you ll be like, wow, wow, I get it.
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I totally get it.
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There s no longer the past anymore.
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You re not connected to it any longer.
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And you free that person, and your relationship changes, and something shifts.
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And she s seeing you differently because you re showing up differently.
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And it s not anything you re saying.
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You re not lecturing them.
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They re just not showing up as the memory
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They had a view, and that allows them to be different.
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And that s a great service.
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Yes.
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You mentioned about survival mode.
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When we re in survival mode, we re feeling stressed.
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And when we re feeling stressed, we re unable to feel that kind of self-love, love for self.
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Well, when you re in stress, you re altered.
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You re altered.
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You re altered.
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You re an altered self.
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You re shaken.
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You re not feeling whole.
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You ve moved from love.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Enter a relationship from survival or stress or lack of worthiness or neediness.
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I need someone to make me feel more love because I don t have it myself.
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What do we usually attract and create when we re attracting from neediness, survival, and a lack of wholeness?
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Yeah, I think that all of that lack, all of that separation is separation from love, right?
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And the problem is that we ve just been conditioned into thinking that it comes from out there.
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It comes from that person, that drug, that circumstance, that thing, that object, that app, whatever it is.
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You re relying on your outer world to change your inner world.
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And so when things are good, you feel good.
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When things feel bad, you feel bad.
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So you re out of fact.
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You re not a cause in any way.
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So what if, though, you had a way to find that independent of your outer world?
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The data we have suggests it s absolutely possible.
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Now you re free.
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You re free.
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Like you don t need anybody or anything.
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You ll be a lot cooler to hang around with.
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Everybody be like, well, you know, that s just that would allow them.
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I know this.
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your presence would allow them to move out of survival.
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They would open their heart a little bit more, they trust you a little bit more, they d be more kind, they d be more soft-spoken, less egocentric.
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Your presence would do that and may not be the first time, but they would start figuring out like, wow, this guy is
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really different, you know, something s different about him.
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And that s just because you re present and you re giving them your attention without judgment.
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You see how hard it is to change.
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You ve actually made that change because you ve made that change and you see that you ve made that change, but you see that in them, you re no longer judging them.
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You have compassion for them, like, dude, that s a tough one.
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It took me a long time to get over that, but you re not judging them.
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Like, what s wrong with you?
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You re like, oh my God, I totally know what that s like.
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You ve crossed that river.
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So, of course, you d never offer them advice unless they asked you.
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You would probably give them a one-liner.
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I mean, people who heal in our work, so many times,
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You know, people in a state of desperation will say, what meditation did you do?
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And they laugh at them, like, there s nothing to do with the meditation.
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It was just, I changed.
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And it was an arduous process.
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But they re telling a difference.
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They re telling the story of their future.
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They re not telling the story of their past, their ex, or their betrayer, or whoever that person is.
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They have no regrets about that, because why?
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They wish them well, they hope they re happy.
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It s not like they re even trying to forgive to be spiritual.
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You know, people who try to forgive, like I m really gonna try to forgive them.
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Working hard to forgive.
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Yeah, it s just not how that works.
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Like you are in love, you don t have to try to forgive, you just don t want to lose this feeling, and you take your attention off that person, you re good.
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There s a lot of freedom in that.
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And that s how people heal.
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They re building their own field.
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They re giving their body their energy back again.
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They re taking their power back in so many ways.
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And then there is community, a collective consciousness.
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I like great conversation.
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I like spirit of conversation.
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I like to be scientists or people in my life that I love.
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I like to engage in just what the limit is and like everybody take us on a journey to see how far we can go.
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I don t like to talk about like things that really that are that where there s pain or suffering or what I don t I don t
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or there s ego, I don t really like that.
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That s a consciousness and everybody s done it, but if you re truly on the path of evolution, you outgrow it.
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You outgrow complaining.
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You don t want to make yourself unhappy anymore.
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You outgrow talking about yourself like you re better than anybody else, because if you do, you ve got to face off with that person tomorrow and overcome them tomorrow.
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After a while, you re like, dude, just stop that so you don t have to deal with you like that anymore.
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So you just start outgrowing things that are just the side effect of your evolution.
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It s not like you have to try to do it.
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It s just the side effect of a change in consciousness, a change in energy, a change in awareness, a change in emotional states.
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And so in the heart,
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It is the selfless place.
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It s a selfless as we give Up from the heart.
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We care from the heart.
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We re kind in our heart.
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We re compassionate in our heart.
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We re inspired in our heart You know, we re we fall in love with our heart.
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We re grateful in our heart And so I think people feel with every other part of their body, but their heart like they just don t feel with it, right?
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Practice feeling with your heart.
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Yes, and um god we have we have such great data you know, we put these monitors on people for 24 hours, right and
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I used to think primarily it was women that had these moments.
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Now we re seeing that men have them too.
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In fact, the men whose spouses take them or partners take them to an event and they really don t want to come, these guys are going to be fine.
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They have really, really big moments.
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So we see them in their meditation where
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You can these little blocks of five minutes and you see the heart just drop in the coherence and it s just beautiful lines, beautiful looks.
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You can see this, it s very easy to see.
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You see this person sustaining it for 45 minutes during their meditation.
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So you re like, hmm, all right, this person nailed it.
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They go to the next meditation, another 45 minutes again, done it once, done it twice.
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This is, looks like this person s getting a skill.
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All of a sudden they do it a third time.
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Another 45 minutes, and then lo and behold, those three meditations in one day, then they re in their room, and they re unpacking and getting ready for bed, they re still wearing their heart rate monitor, and while they re not in a meditation, for one hour, while they re just unpacking and getting ready, there s an enormous amount of heart coherence that s taking place for a whole hour.
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Why?
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Because, just like a person who has a panic attack,
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who s embracing the worst case scenario in their mind every day and emotionally feeling the anxiety and the fear of that event actually occurred.
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That image of that emotion, that stimulus and response, that thought and feeling has conditioned the body to become the mind of anxiety.
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The body has a panic attack with you or without you.
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Try as you may to control it with your consciousness.
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subconscious mind.
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You can t control, you program it subconsciously, right?
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So is it possible to have a spontaneous love attack?
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That s what she had.
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She had one hour or her body went into ecstasy.
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And you could see it.
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I said, what?
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A love attack?
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A love attack.
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Wow.
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I said to her, what did you do?
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She said, and I saw it.
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She got in bed and she laid down and rolled over and went to sleep.
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So you see her about an hour and 10 minutes, perfect heart coherence and just see it drop off into sleep.
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1,300-1,400 different chemicals released to restore and repair the body.
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The love that you feel is the glue that creates connection on a cellular level, on a molecular level, on an atomic level.
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Peel the atom all the way back right to the center of the nucleus and you have nothing but energy.
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And that energy is what s called low entropy.
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And low entropy is high order.
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And high order is high energy.
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And it s a lot of power.
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So as you move closer to that source of everything physical and material, we have such great data to show that people actually run into it.
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And when they do, their autonomic nervous system goes into these elevated states of high, high, high gamma brainwave patterns.
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Now gamma is super consciousness.
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Gamma is very conscious, very aware.
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So the person s whole entire autonomic nervous system is processing hundreds of standard deviations of gamma outside of normal.
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That s not a little gamma.
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And it s so coherent.
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Now the autonomic nervous system touches every single cell in the body.
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It controls and coordinates all those systems, right?
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So now imagine stress is autonomic dysregulation, incoherence.
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This is autonomic regulation, but this is not a little
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regulation this is enormous amount of energy that s taking place in the brain and the autonomic nervous system is on fire and every single cell in the body is getting touched by that frequency and that frequency is carrying information and energy is informing matter and that connection creates that feeling of pure love of ecstasy or bliss and now the person takes a piece of it with them they become more of it and it becomes them and so we measure
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their blood and there s a lot of oxytocin.
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We measure their blood and there s information in that blood that wasn t there before that heals cancer, that reverses Alzheimer s, that causes viruses to not enter the cell.
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I mean, it causes the microbiome to change in a matter of days.
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So that interaction with that unifying field of energy that exists beyond our senses, whose signature is oneness, whose signature is wholeness, whose signature is pure love,
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means then that it lives within you and all around you, then you d be remembering who you are and where you came from, which is pure love.
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And it is the most familiar, unfamiliar feeling you ll ever have.
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And it s not chemical.
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It s electric.
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And when you have that moment, many times,
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there s an upgrade that takes place in the body.
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There s a disease, now it s gone.
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There s the eczema, it s gone.
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There s a myasthenia gravis, now it s gone.
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There s the Parkinson s, now it s gone.
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There s the blindness, now it s gone.
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Energy s informing matter and that enormous amount of regulation, high, high amounts of regulation is raising the body in frequency, it s raising the body in light and all disease is lowering in frequency.
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So the person is connecting to something
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Way bigger than their senses wait something beyond their senses and it s coming from within them now and you only need one of those And you re you re okay From that point forward and the way you see life use some veil some illusion some conditioning some hypnosis is removed and you re now way more relaxed and
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in your heart and way more awake in your brain instead of unconscious, stressed out in a program, right?
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And when I think you re more awake in your heart and your brain, you start to attract more great opportunities and you start to see, is this person in alignment with
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my type of resonating resonating yeah that consciousness exactly you ll be able to find your tribe it ll be as obvious as anything exactly what whether you re looking for a partner or friends or community or you know a business partner you can trust exactly that you resonate and you feel that and and and the heart is a strong element in the creative process
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So, if you have a coherent brain, then you re sending the signal out into the quantum field.
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That s the potential in the quantum field that you re selecting, that already exists, and you ve got to have an intention.
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The more coherent the brain, the more the electrical signal takes place in the field.
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But if you want to create the experience, the synchronicity, the opportunity,
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You gotta need a coherent heart, and the heart is the magnetic field.
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And the magnetic field draws things to us.
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So now we don t have to go get it any longer, because that s what we do in three-dimensional reality.
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All of a sudden, you start noticing, I really didn t do anything.
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Well, I got the email.
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I got the phone call.
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I got the opportunities.
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I met this person who led to this.
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And wow, all of a sudden, I have this life.
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And so if you re going to believe in that future that you re imagining with all of your heart, it s got to be open and activated.
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We train people.
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to get in that place.
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And when they re in that place, they have wonderful relationships with everything and everybody because they re okay with themselves.
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Yes.
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Can you explain?
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I love this explanation.
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At your retreat, you talk about this over and over, sending an attention with a signal from your thought out into the field.
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And then with your heart,
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drawing this intention from the physical world to you physically.
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Yeah.
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Can you explain?
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Every time you say this, I love it.
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And it just reminds me about the power of intention and having a coherent heart and brain connection.
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Right.
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And those are the tools being so clear on your thought and thinking of why you want this thing, you know, not wanting it from a place of lack, but already feeling grateful, all these different things that you teach in the retreat.
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But can you explain what this does when you have a signal from the brain and you have a magnet from the heart?
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How does that work in the physical world?
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And how can we apply this to, you know, if someone s been single for a long time and they re like, you know what?
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I m ready for love.
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I m ready for a greater connection.
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And I ve let go of my past.
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I ve forgiven.
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I feel like I m in a space that s allowing me to feel love myself.
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And I m allowing to bring a partner to me.
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How does this connect to that as well?
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OK.
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Well, let s talk about how we typically create.
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We basically create in lack of separation.
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You re walking down the street and you see someone with a nice car and you re like, I love that car and you don t have it.
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You want that car because you don t have it.
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So, you re going to go out and work
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or do whatever you can to get that car.
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And in order for you to get that car, we re in the plane of demonstration, you got to do things.
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So there s the thought of having the car, and then there s the experience of having it.
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And the distance between the thought of the car and the experience of getting it is called time.
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That s separation.
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So, then, in three-dimensional reality, everything that we do to bring those two points of consciousness together takes time and energy.
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So, we ve got to do things.
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We ve got to get up and go try things and try things out and do things and work.
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And then you buy the car, finally, and then you may have to make payments.
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So, you ve got to keep working to pay it off.
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So, it takes a lot of time and energy.
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So, in three-dimensional reality,
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the plane of demonstration, there s a separation between the thought of what you want and the experience of having it, and you gotta do things to get it, and that s called time.
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So then the cause and the effect, one point of consciousness, another point of consciousness, the separation is called time.
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Okay, well, you can get really good at that.
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You can get trained, you can go to school, you can make a lot of the right choices, you can meet the right people, you can figure out ways to accumulate more things and get all the things you want that you think that makes you happy, right?
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But after a while, you re like, some people never actually create the thing they want.
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They spend their entire life in the lack.
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Because they re waiting for that event to happen.
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to take away the lack of not having it, right?
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So their senses are fooling them into the illusion of separation, right?
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So they re creating matter-to-matter.
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And matter-to-matter takes time and energy, and you get really good at doing it.
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Okay, so there s this invisible field of unifying energy that exists beyond the senses that s unifying everything physical and material.
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And the forces of nature, quantum physicists have been trying to unify gravity and strong and weak nuclear forces and electromagnetism.
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There s some intelligence that s keeping all of this in order after an explosion.
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After an explosion is normally disorder, but we ve got a lot of order here.
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So unifying all those principles is really what quantum physics is about and finding mathematics to do it.
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But undeniably,
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In this realm in the quantum realm, there s no separation.
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It s there s nothing physical.
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There s nothing material There s no matter that s all taking place in three-dimensional reality.
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It s all energy.
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It s all frequency.
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It s all vibration It s all information.
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It s all consciousness.
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It s all thought
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Um, that is that invisible field of energy.
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So, okay, that invisible field of energy, Einstein said, the field is the sole governing agency of the particle.
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It didn t say the particle controls the particle, it said the field controls the particle.
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So if I
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can change information in the field, I should be able to affect the particle matter.
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So it turns out that an atom is 99.99999% energy, information.
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There s nothing physical or material there.
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.00001 material, when the probability of us seeing the truth of reality is zero, and we are
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only see a small spectrum of frequency, the rainbow, visible light, bouncing off the most stable form of energy called matter, giving us this hologram, this illusion of separation.
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So if there was a way to create from the field
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instead of from matter and move closer to source and create from a place of wholeness and less from separation, I d have to be able to get to the field.
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So then if where you place your attention is where you place your energy, and you develop the ability to take all of your attention off your body.
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all your attention of all the people in your life, all the objects and things, your cell phone, your car, your house, whatever, all the relationships of all the people, all the places you need to go, the place you re sitting, the place you grew up, the place you sleep, the place you work, and nothing about the predictable future or the familiar past and settle into the present moment.
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You would go from a somebody to a nobody.
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from a someone to a no one, from something to nothing, from somewhere to nowhere, from some time to no time.
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That is the moment your pure consciousness.
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You ll be disinvesting all of your attention, all of your energy out of this three-dimensional reality, out of the known, and placing it on the unknown.
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Now, let s demystify the process.
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Take away everything physical and material in the universe.
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Take away the earth, take away the moon, take away all the planets, all the moons from the planets, take away the sun, the light from the sun, the stars, all the light from the stars, the galaxies, take everything away.
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Wipe everything out physical and material.
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What are you left with?
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Nothing.
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It turns out that that nothing is filled with a lot of frequency and energy.
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That s true.
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And I don t know how to explain nothing to a materialist, but when you can linger in that place without a name, without a face, without a body weight, without a diet, without a disease, without a profession,
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without an identity in any way, without a past, and you can linger as pure consciousness, something really profound happens to the brain.
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Different compartments of the brain that have been modulated, or compartmentalized, or subdivided because of the stress hormones, you know, shift your attention from one person to another person, to another problem, to another thing, that habituation fragments the brain.
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The brain becomes a house divided against itself, and you narrow your focus, you over-focus, you become obsessive about something, that s what we do in stress.
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It turns out if you open your awareness to nothing, the brain starts getting highly organized.
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Different compartments of the brain that were modulated start unifying.
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The brain starts firing this more holistic state and the whole entire brain is resonating at the same frequency.
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Now you get that brain going for that period of time like that.
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Waves that are coherent start interfering with each other, and when they do, they create bigger amplitudes.
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The higher amplitude, the higher the energy in the brain.
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So now you have resonance in the brain, and the brain starts getting very mathematical and very organized, right?
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So that brain that s coherent, the entire brain is functioning as one neurological network.
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The two hemispheres are coming together, and there s this kind of psychic union called wholeness.
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Now, that state of coherence in moving out of the beta brainwave states into a slower brainwave state produces electrical signals.
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And that electrical signal is the intention.
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The more clear your intention is, the more coherent the brain is, the stronger the signal.
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Okay, so if you decided to create from the field instead of from matter, and you were just pure consciousness, and I asked you to send the signal out from a coherent brain, and whatever that thing is that you wanted, we trained you how to do that, then you would be
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Shimmering the entire vacuum that entire void you were you are that you re not you any longer.
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You re the source, right?
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so if you re the source and you re sending the signal out then you re you re touching the consciousness of Everybody of everyone of everything of everywhere every time though the entire field is becoming electric because of your intention Wow, okay now
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If you re source, why would you go anywhere to get anything?
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And so consciousness is coherent brain, and then the energy of the heart is love, and pure love is source.
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So if I asked you to fall in love with that future and I asked you to draw the future to you with the magnetic field of the heart, the heart produces a magnetic field up to three meters wide.
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That s studied.
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So now, love is the glue that holds the atom together, okay?
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Okay, if I get a coherent heart, the more coherent my heart is, the more energy in my heart, the more I can draw my future to me.
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So you send the signal out, you draw the experience to you, and now you don t go anywhere to get anything.
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When there s vibrational match between your energy and some potential in the quantum field, that when there s a match,
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You start seeing those synchronicities.
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You synchronize your energy to that possibility.
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And so you start seeing the coincidences and the synchronicities and the opportunities.
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I m not talking about a parking space.
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I m talking about like real life events.
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Yes.
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This is a critical moment for people.
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Because I think people don t realize how powerful they really are.
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When that event happens in their life, they will look back at every single betrayer, everything that happened in their past, and they won t care any longer.
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That s the moment their past no longer exists, because they re proving to themselves what they innately already know that they may have forgotten.
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Which is what?
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That is the creator of their life.
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And when you have that synchronicity, you are humbled by the truth.
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And you feel this sense of greatness, like real greatness.
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Like, I am honored to be human.
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I m honored to be alive.
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I m honored that I actually created.
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It s not the wealth.
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You can ask anybody in our community.
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It s not the health.
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It s who you became.
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And people think they want this or they want that, but I m telling you what they want is wholeness.
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Yes.
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And you have wholeness that you no longer want.
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How could you want when you re whole?
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Game change is really amazing.
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And so the closer we get to source, and that s our work, how deep can you go?
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And we teach people how to go as deep as they can.
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There s a brainwave state that takes place that I can predict when we see it.
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I know the person s going to have a big moment In fact, we can predict it we can replicate it And we can induce it And the person goes into these really slow Theta brainwave states and that s when they re in a hypnotic state.
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They re very suggestible to information
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And they re in coherent theta, and when they move outside of normal, we know the next moment is they re going to hook up.
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And the brain s going to go into gamma, and they re going to feel a whole lot of love.
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Not a little love, like a lot of love.
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And it s going to be an arousal.
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And it s going to be ecstasy.
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It s going to be bliss.
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To them, they re seeing the unknown self.
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The 99.99% of reality that we re unaware of.
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And don t exclude yourself from that.
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And so the person has a moment in the unknown and a profound mystical moment or an understanding or a download or a connection in the source or a healing or something that takes place.
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They took a bite of wholeness.
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They took a bite of it.
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They became more whole.
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And when you re more whole, you don t need as much.
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That s right.
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When you don t need as much, you re really cool to be around.
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Like it s really easy to be around you.
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In fact, if you re so whole that you feel so abundant that the only thing you want to do is give,
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We have people in this work that have created millions of dollars and they re giving it away.
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And the more they give it away, the more money they keep getting.
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That s the experiment for them.
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That s their experiment.
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They re trying that out as an experiment.
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Why?
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Because an abundant person would never hold on to anything.
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They have more than they need.
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The side effect of creating from the field instead of from matter shortens the distance between the thought of what we want and the experience of having it.
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And that means there s less time.
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And the greater frequency, the closer we are to source, the less separation is two points of consciousness.
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It means there s less time.
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And it should happen in a shorter amount of time in three-dimensional reality.
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In that event, it s none of your business.
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when it s going to happen or how it s going to happen.
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That s the key.
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Because the moment you try to predict it, you re back to the Newtonian model of reality.
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You re wanting and needing again.
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You re laying a known over the unknown.
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And the consciousness that lives within us, that source says, I honor free will, go for it, do it your way.
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And so we have to lay down the very thing we used our whole life to get what we want.
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for something greater to occur.
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And that s not an easy thing.
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Is it?
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Because there s such a propensity to jump in there and do, right?
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Control it or force it.
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And so we control, we force, we predict, we fight for it, we manipulate, we cheat, we lie, we steal.
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We do everything when we re trying to change matter to take away that lack of separation.
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But if there s an alternative way to do that, to shorten the distance between one point of consciousness and another point, between cause and effect, and you start believing that you re the creator of your reality, you stop trying so hard.
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People in this work, I think that the excitement for me and what I m proud of in terms of our community is that they do the work.
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Not because they have to or they want to please God or do
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the right thing.
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It s not that.
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They don t want the magic to end in their life.
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They don t want it to end.
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It s not like, oh jeez, I got to go create my life.
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It s kind of like, someone sent me a text just yesterday, a very, very, very wealthy, very successful person.
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And he said to me, I need to take a break from creating.
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Like I m going to take a break.
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Is that okay?
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Is it okay?
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His whole life has just gotten super beautiful and he s so alive again.
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All these wonderful things happen.
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He said, I almost don t feel worthy.
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I almost don t feel worthy of so many great things.
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The only times you showed up for yourself, you aren t worthy.
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That s why it s happening.
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You are worthy.
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You showed up, man.
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If you don t show up, you don t believe you re a creator.
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You show up, it means you do believe.
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And so many people, as I said, they may say, well, I think this stuff works, but I don t know if it works for me.
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Well, this is a big moment because if you don t show up, then you don t believe it s possible.
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But if you show up, you still believe it s possible.
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So showing up for yourself every day, investing in yourself, is investing in your future.
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And people say to me, well, I did it for two weeks and nothing happened.
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And I always say to them, you re not that good.
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Like, I don t know what else to tell you.
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It s not like it doesn t work for you.
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It s just like, learn a little bit more knowledge.
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Understand what you re doing.
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Your health condition isn t changing.
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Okay.
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Your relationship, you want a relationship and you want a relationship and love and you re living three quarters of your day in fear.
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You think you re going to attract love.
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You got to be able to feel that feeling instead of fear.
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And when it s the hardest, it matters the most.
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Then you re worthy.
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You re worthy of love.
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You are worthy when you get to that point where you re worthy of love.
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It s not like entitlement like I m, i m worthy of love.
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That s not how that works.
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You are worthy of it.
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It s it s it s You re so worthy of it.
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You re okay without anybody.
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That s when it gets really good.
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That s powerful
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When you don t need it.
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Because you don t need anything.
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Because you feel whole.
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Exactly.
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Now, I call that the natural state of being.
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That s why we practice so much relaxed in the heart and awake in the brain, because there are so many biological changes, neurological, genetic changes that take place in that present moment.
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So many wonderful changes.
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So the person who wants the wealth, the person who wants the relationship,
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They can t be saying, or the health, they can t be saying, well, how come I m not healed?
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The person who s in the process of healing would never say that.
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That s the old self that says, how come I don t have a new relationship?
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Well, figure it out.
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Like two weeks went by and were you spending the rest of your day in fear and in lack?
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Were you hating yourself and hating your life?
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When you think you re worthy of love at this point, you re not gonna be happy.
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No one s going to make you happy until you make you happy and that changes everything.
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You find that person and they re happy for no reason.
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And not just happy like always happy, but a sensibility that they can manage themselves and manage their emotions and manage their attention.
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In such a way that s admirable.
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Like you re inspired by that person.
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Your relationship, the person that you re with is an inspiration to you.
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Like wow, I m inspired by this person.
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I m moved by this person.
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I want to show up for this person.
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I want to give as much as they give in this relationship.
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I want to care as much as they care.
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I want to be as kind as they are.
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I want to see when everybody else reacts.
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This person doesn t react something is cool about that person.
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That s that gives the person or the people that were in relationship permission To show up differently and that s that s when it becomes infectious.
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That s when it becomes wonderful I want to ask you two final questions because I could go on for hours with you as always but I want I want people to digest this because the explanation of the
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The signal and the magnet, I think, I want people to watch that on repeat until they truly understand it and practice it.
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Because when you understand that, that is the game.
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It s figuring out how to make this happen and create this looping effect of sending out the signal with your pure intention and drawing it back in with your heart.
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Feel the emotion of your future before it happens.
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Because in the quantum, in the quantum, you ve got to feel it to experience it.
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You do.
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Before it s here.
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In three-dimensional reality, you experience it.
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When it happens.
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And you feel it afterwards.
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In the quantum, you ve got to feel it to experience it.
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Whatever you experience in the realm beyond space and time and emotionally embrace must manifest in this space and time.
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It s the law.
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Let s go.
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Let s go.
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But but but my point is is that it doesn t happen in two weeks.
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Don t give up.
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Yes, the experiment continues What is it?
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What does that mean?
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It means that you got to fill your brain with more knowledge.
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You got to practice more You got to be more present.
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You can t be thinking about your coffee.
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We re thinking about what happened.
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Yes, you re not there You re not there.
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You re not there when you are there.
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You re not thinking look think about this if you got up
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feeling connected to your future emotionally, then you would say you would be feeling like your future has already happened.
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If you feel the emotions of your future before it happens, you would no longer look for it.
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You only look for it when you don t feel connected to it, because you re in lack or separation.
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Try that out with your eyes open the entire day.
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I m going to sustain my energy, put more tension on my inner world, just a little bit more, relax in my heart and awaken a brain.
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Let me tune in to that future.
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Let me feel it when I m at the stoplight.
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Let me feel it when my best friend s complaining to me.
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Let me feel it when I m washing the dishes.
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Let me just practice my own thing as an experiment.
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I do this just to see.
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The more I tune in, the more I draw to me, it s no longer about the event.
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It s getting so lost in the effort, so lost in the act, that the act actually creates the experience.
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You re too involved in what you re doing.
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When you default back to the old person and feel the same emotion, don t expect your life to change.
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You just return back to the same state of being, the same energy.
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There s no one or no person or no thing doing that in your life.
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If you say it s that person or that thing, you re back to being at effect in your life.
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So then being at cause in your life then is not trying to rush and get it done.
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Getting back in your life is actually being present in the moment and just try something else differently, draw it to me.
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The brain coherence and heart coherence is producing a Wi-Fi signal.
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And now you re connected, now you re hooked up.
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When your brain is incoherent, you re incoherent.
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When your brain is incoherent and you have no Wi-Fi signal, you don t have that connection.
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When your heart is not coherent, you have no Wi-Fi signal, you have no connection.
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You re separate, you re too far from the router, from your source.
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So, tuning up the autonomic nervous system, tuning up the nervous system by getting a tuning fork, by tuning into energy and frequency, keep doing that, boy, we see just really, really wonderful things.
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I mean, I always say to the scientists,
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all those meditations on nothing, and you re getting all of this incredible data?
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There s gotta be information in that energy and that frequency that s not coming from their senses.
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It s not coming from the candy bar or the drug or the diet.
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They re not taking anything, and yet there s information in their blood look like they were.
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Where is it coming from?
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It s coming from the field, and so when the person dials down the neocortex and moves into theta, theta s hypnosis, you re suggestible to information.
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But in hypnosis, you re plugged into reality with your senses, you re getting instructions, you re hearing things, you re seeing things, and of course you re suggestible and you can program a person.
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But the person s sitting in a meditation, their eyes are closed, there s music you play, they re not connected to their outer world at all, but
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But they re still suggestible to information.
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And there s only one other place you can get information from, and that s frequency.
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And the more coherent the brain and the more coherent the heart, the more coherent the information.
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And the little gland in the back of the brain called the pineal gland and the brain s radio receiver,
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hooks up to that frequency and that energy and it transduces that information into profound imagery in the brain and the person is having a transcendental moment.
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And that moment they are seen beyond veil of this illusion of separation and that s when they remember who they are and where they came from.
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That moment you can only talk around.
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Yes.
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But it is electric.
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And so what if it took you six months to get there, would it be worth it?
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Yeah, I would say so.
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Seeing what s in the blood,
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of people who hit that moment and there are many people that don t hit that moment and still have the same information in their blood.
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84, 83, 77% of the community, it s pretty crazy.
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That s incredible.
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I want everyone to go to your website because I want them to sign up to get on your retreat because when I went there,
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I felt an incredible explosion of love.
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I m disconnected from my phone.
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It s in the hotel somewhere.
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I m tapped into my heart and I m practicing being in my heart and feeling nothing except for the feeling of love for hours and hours and hours.
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And then I m learning from you, the science, the research, all the data.
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You have so many research papers now out that we ll link up to talk about.
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Here s the hard facts, the data,
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a peer-reviewed science that s proving that you can get incredible healing results, wholeness results that allow you to attract from the field more beautiful things in your life.
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Not because you need them or want them, because they re available to you now.
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It s an experiment.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And I want people to sign up, follow you, and practice some meditations.
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You know, a lot of this comes from the practice and the experiment of it like you talked about.
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This isn t gonna happen if you just think for one moment at a time and then the rest of your days are anger, fear, resentment, lack.
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Do the inventory.
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Exactly.
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Do the inventory every night.
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How much time did I think about love, peace, gratitude, forgiveness versus anger, resentment, or lack?
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And if the answer is, well, you don t understand, I have a reason to feel this way, then you re not there.
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You re not there.
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You re not beyond your past.
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Exactly.
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And I always say, justified or not, the only person that that s hurting, those emotions, is really you.
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It is.
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It really is.
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And so you gotta ask yourself, is this loving to me?
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And this is the beginning of your relationship with yourself.
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Absolutely.
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And self-forgiveness is so important.
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Not self-forgiveness like, okay, go out and do it again.
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But like, what did I learn?
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Do I really want to end up here every day?
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Do I really want to end up in the same place?
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I don t want this.
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Okay, so then what would you tell your kid if he didn t want it?
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Well, change.
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Change that.
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Like, how do I change it?
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Well, stop it.
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You want to be happy?
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Stop being unhappy.
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That s really simple.
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And so the unlearning process
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The breaking the habit process, the overcoming process.
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Nobody likes to talk about because it is the overcoming process or that is the becoming process.
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That woman who broke through and her heart blew wide open and she was abused as a child.
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Boy, she she was so happy with herself.
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She was she she saw herself when she was ready to give up.
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And say, I can t go any further because emotion was so hard.
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She went one more time and her heart opened up.
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She was so incredibly free after that moment.
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She literally moved out of her past into her present moment.
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And when she was making that decision, when she saw all the days that she never missed a meditation, and she fell in love with that person.
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She fell in love with that person.
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And it was that future self.
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that was drawing that past self to her in love.
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There s a future you.
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There s a future me that already exists that s more mystical, more loving, more abundant, more free, more unlimited, more genius, more cool.
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And it s you, right?
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And so the overcoming process then is the difficult process because so many people would rather just get on their cell phone, get distracted, scroll through TikTok or social media, just regulate their emotions by something else.
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They re not conscious they re doing that, but that s what they re doing.
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In this case, we re asking you to do it on your own.
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So you re sitting through the fire and you re not going for the cell phone.
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Man, it s like you re in the river of change and it s uncomfortable and it s uncertain and there s unpredictability and it s the unknown, but man, that is the place to create from, not from the known, from the unknown.
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So getting people into that place where they re uncomfortable and okay with it and understanding that there is a future,
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that already exists.
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You just have to become it, right?
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Become that person.
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So, it s not your wealth, it s who you become.
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It s not your health, it s who you become.
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You can ask the people who healed.
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Ask the people who are abundant.
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They ll say, no, no, no, no, that wasn t it.
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And you can talk to the people who had really profound instantaneous healings.
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Instantaneous healings.
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I get them on the stage and for 10 minutes they re talking about how amazing they feel from the experience.
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And finally I say to them, will you tell the audience, oh yeah, I was blind and now I can see.
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Oh yeah, I had Parkinson s and now I don t have any.
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The event is more powerful than their healing.
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The healing is consequence of them overcoming, right?
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It s the overcoming process that is the becoming process.
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That s the relearning process.
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That s the reinvention process, right?
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That s what we live for.
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And so we overcome our fear.
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We overcome our resentment.
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We overcome our anger, our betrayal.
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And we become something else.
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We re moving closer to source.
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We re moving closer to love.
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And it s not something that you have to try to do.
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It s just who you become.
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It s all you have to try to forgive.
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You just feel so good You don t want to feel anything else right and and and you re more resilient and you re you re more healthy.
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You re more whole imagine like People who are super wealthy a lot of times they say to me and we re talking billions.
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They say we re miserable We re in agony and I say why and they say because well, I can t enjoy a sunset anymore.
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I can t relax I don t know how to do that.
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Like I I don t know how to do that.
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I can t even appreciate life and yet somehow
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Then we overcome ourselves and we feel more love.
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We re more prone to give.
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Why?
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Because we want people to feel the way we feel.
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That s not like I m doing this to please anybody.
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I feel so good.
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I want you to feel the way I feel.
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So the only way I can do that is to give you what I have.
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And I feel so good, I m happy to give it away.
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I don t know, imagine a world like that.
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So falling in love with yourself is falling in love with life.
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And falling in love with life is falling in love with yourself.
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Whatever it is that s standing in the way between you and love, that s the journey.
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That s the journey.
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Because pure love is source, right?
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It is pure consciousness.
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So as I said at the beginning,
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And that in order for us to find love a part of us must die or anything that s not loving us Must die and that and that that that biological neurological chemical hormonal genetic death of the self Has to occur for something to be reborn.
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That s the Phoenix rising from the ashes and it s not like someone s gonna do it for you nobody s gonna choose you and
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that you are endowed with the free will as pure consciousness, as a creator that has fallen from source to such a degree of separation, you have your own free will to create reality any way you want.
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So then your job then is to reinvent whatever that is in your life, whatever that dream is.
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And I say to people all the time, I don t care what it is.
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I don t care whatever it is you want, I m totally cool with that, as long as you know how to create.
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And as you get good at this, and you start having the things you want, then the only thing you want to do is give back.
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The only thing you want to do is make a difference.
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And the side effect of that is people start taking care of people.
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And in our community, you know, we inform one another.
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We respect one another.
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We honor one another.
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We support one another.
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We heal one another.
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We shine for one another so others can shine.
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That s the emergent consciousness.
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And that collective group of people that s bound together in a different energy, a different frequency,
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Then glue creates a community, a collective network.
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And I think that that then is what people are looking for in the world.
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I want people to follow everything you re doing.
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It s inspiring.
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It s amazing.
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research papers coming out.
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You ve got a walk that people can be a part of, you know, depending on when this interview comes out, to continue to inspire and bring people together to transform from the inside out.
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You ve got incredible books that are transformational.
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So check it out.
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I ve been to a lot of
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For the last 11 years, I ve done a lot of different workshops.
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I ve done a lot of meditation retreats.
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I ve been to India.
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I ve done so many different things.
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I ve done extreme cold, extreme heat.
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I ve done a lot of different healing modalities, therapies.
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And the thing that I love about your work is you bring
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practical style of meditation that people heard meditation for a long time, but you bring it in a unique way from all your experiences and from all the science and research that you ve done and proven with other outside scientists and researchers to show here are the actual results.
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So you give evidence, you give data, you give testimonials, you give so many examples of how these things work in different cases in life.
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So when you teach,
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You know, science and the mystical, you marry the two and allow people to receive it with the information while experiencing something that s unknown to them, where they believe more.
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And when they believe more, they can recreate that more and then they can spread the message more to others.
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So there s something beautiful about your work that I want to appreciate and acknowledge you for.
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Because that s the first time I ve seen you since the event, even though we ve texted and messaged a few times.
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But it was such an incredibly powerful seven-day experience.
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And I just want everyone, I hope everyone gets the opportunity to experience it someday.
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You ve got courses online that people can learn a lot of this information from as well.
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And there s just so many resources you have on your website.
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So we ll have that linked up.
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Here s my final question for you on this.
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you know, maybe I can convince you in a year or two to do another one about level C. But my question for this, I have a shirt that I got at your event that someone gave me.
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And it s based on a mantra that you said over and over again in this seven day experience.
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And the question is, what would love do?
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So I want to throw that question back to you.
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This is something you say to everyone in your retreats.
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What would love do?
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I m curious, how do you answer that for yourself?
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God, you know, I m a mission-driven person.
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I ve had all kinds of things in my life.
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And there s not a whole lot of things that I have meaning for aside from the people that are close to me and that I love.
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But what I really love is making a difference in people s lives.
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I think that s innate in us.
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I think that it s so much easier to clean your neighbor s garage than your own.
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I don t know why that is.
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We re wired to take care of one another, you know?
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And so for me, what love does is, number one, being the example, doing the work and being the example of everything that I teach.
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I think that s important for me.
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But then I m a mission-driven person and I think that the only way my mission is to change individuals to somehow change their lives and ultimately empower people in some way to create a different world.
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And so I work just like anybody else to move closer to it.
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I practice all the things that I teach.
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And I do find incredible value in being part of transformation, I think.
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That I think when you witness a mother whose child has been Autistic for years stand on a stage and tell her story in tears and tell you know I think the people that were part of that coherence healing that were actually changed that kid s life changed the mother s life I think the greatest form of gratitude that we can ever feel is receiving gratitude And when we receive gratitude something really profound happens.
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You re part of someone s transformation.
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It s tribal and
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And we tend to switch on networks in the brain that cause us to move closer together, to commune, to become more social.
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And the side effect is that we become more appreciative.
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We appreciate life.
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We appreciate the moment.
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And people who do, as an example, the coherence healings, that s what love does.
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Like that s what love does and they re not doing it to hang a shingle out there to say I m a healer or a life coach.
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They re doing it because they re getting so much out of the experience.
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They re part of a person s change in empathy.
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This kind of human empathy awakens where you realize that we re all connected on some level.
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We re wholeness in parts, you know.
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Every individual is part of the whole.
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And if we change enough individuals, we can change the whole and whatever that point is, I don t know.
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But for me, what love does in some way is
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to be the example in our lives, to show people what it looks like, to be something other than what s normal and natural, different from the collective consciousness in some way, and dare to be original enough.
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You know, in the beginning you ll be considered foolhardy and insane, and you pull it off and then you re a genius, you re a mystic, right?
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And so I m sure that many people in this work that
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faced off with their family and friends when they were given a hard diagnosis, had to come up to terms with themselves and really look to see, like, do I love myself enough to do this?
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And showing up every day and falling in love with yourself every day is a great antidote for the healing process.
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So for me, I watched a woman open her eyes for the first time in Cancun and saw for the first time I was standing right there.
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I wanted to be there.
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Wanted to be I wanted to celebrate with her.
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I wanted to be right there in that moment when she opened her eyes I wanted to be right there.
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I wanted to I wanted to Experience her joy.
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I wanted to I want to celebrate with her like to me.
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That s the gift of life that is what I think that s what love does and and and the effect of love is caring and kindness and healing and connection no judgment, no conditions and
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It s something, it s something, it s a never-ending process of discovery, right?
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And every mystical experience I ve had, where I felt profound feelings, has always led me to the understanding that there can t be any more love to this until the next one.
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But there is more.
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And there is more.
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I m like, my God, man, I have just shaded myself.
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so so then Surrendering fully to love right surrendering fully to love every day is a mystery.
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Where does it leave me?
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I don t know but the unknown has never let me down up until this point so That brings me that for me the greatest joy to somehow make a difference in people s lives.
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I hope today s episode inspired you on your journey towards greatness.
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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a rundown of today s show with all the important links.
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And if no one has told you today, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.
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And now it s time to go out there and do something great.