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Dana, we got a great, fun comedian on that we both like, we ve both known forever, Jerry Seinfeld.
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The Jerry Seinfeld, who also did, what was his half hour show in the 90s called?
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It was called Skidoo or something.
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Yeah, Feldman.
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I know it if I hear it, Feldman.
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So anyway, he may be, he wouldn t like this, but he may be kind of an icon at this point.
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It was very interesting to talk to him.
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That s safe to say.
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I mean people throw Legend around or Oh My God, he is one of the best comics to do it and he s definitely has a show that is arguably,
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the best sitcom or at least way, way, way up there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And we can look now, 25 years later, how it s just ubiquitous.
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It s aired all over the world.
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And then Jerry is such, at his core, he s a standup and he s a scientist about it and loves to talk about it.
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So that was very interesting.
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It was a really fun, interesting interview.
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It went by very fast.
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He has a lot to say and his new movie, Unfrosted.
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And so we talked all about that.
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the idea of writing and directing a movie.
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And all the cameos, and there s so many comics and funny people that are in that movie, and it s got a great nostalgic feel to it.
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It was a lot of fun, that one.
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Just sitting with him, I don t see him that much.
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I see him about once a year somewhere at an event.
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Never get much time, everyone s around.
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So just to sit, and we all- And it s in person, by the way.
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And we cracked up.
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Oh yeah, we all did at my house.
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It s in person.
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and we cracked up.
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It s good to just have hard laughs when comedians are on.
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Yeah, yeah, Jerry loves comedians and loves talking about comedy.
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And so I think you might enjoy this.
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I hope so, we did.
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All right, here he is.
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Here he is, Jerry Seinfeld.
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Men and women, do you have any chunk on that?
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Yeah, I do.
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Well, in the olden days, I think, Chris Rock, you end with male-female relationships.
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Yes, I do.
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The whole second half of my set is marriage and kids.
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Did you start?
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Yeah.
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Ten minutes in.
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It s pretty good.
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Yeah, we don t have a real start time.
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Night of peace, everybody.
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Are you rolling?
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Yeah.
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Oh, good.
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How s your energy right now, one to ten?
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Seven.
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Good.
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I had the premiere of the movie last night.
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I saw it.
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You were there?
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No, I saw the pictures of you with your family.
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You were smiling so much in all the pictures.
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Because I m done.
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I know.
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Almost.
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Almost.
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This is kind of embarrassing, but I saw the movie twice.
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Wow.
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Well, you know, you re cooking dinner.
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You got it on the laptop.
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You know, I m not saying this chair.
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I always thought you were taller.
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Why is he in the little kid?
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It s shaped like someone just drew an L and said, this chair.
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So chairs are now made for humans.
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They re actually designed.
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fit human beings.
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This is like Burger King.
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They want to get you in and out.
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Charlie, is that a better chair?
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Do you have a short torso?
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It s your chair.
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I m telling you, it s a bad chair.
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Is Charlie s better?
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Oh, this one might be better.
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Yeah.
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Chevy Chase sat on that one.
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I bet it might be a little similar.
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Okay, good.
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I think this is the same chair.
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You know, I only saw him frosted once, Dana.
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I just got these jeans.
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I put them on, I took the tags off this morning, and they fit.
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They fit perfectly?
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Isn t it a great- What store?
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Levi s.
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Okay.
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Old school, yeah.
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I like it.
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What kind of jeans do you wear?
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You know, they just asked me that.
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Just answer the question.
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You know, when I was growing up- Objection overruled.
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You re witness, Mr. Seinfeld.
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You know, the difference between men and women.
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What kind of jeans do you wear?
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I don t really know.
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It s whatever wardrobe has and I just take it.
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He has a professional shopper.
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No, I don t, Dana.
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I used to wear only 501 Levi s and then somewhere along the way I got lost and it just turned into brands I didn t know and they were the exact same but they cost more.
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The Sandler, what is that Sandler thing?
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I love that you would have a thing of Sandler.
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This is his album.
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Yeah, 100% fresh.
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And there s Norm s book over there.
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Oh, that s great.
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There s Will Ferrell.
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That s nice.
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All we have is each other.
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Comedians.
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Yeah, right?
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I was talking about how
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The only time I feel really calm is alone or with a comedian.
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Yeah.
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If I go to like a showbiz event, I will be aligned to a comedian.
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Yeah.
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And it s, it s very simple explanation is that we re all on the spectrum.
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Is that true?
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Nobody cares about the spectrum when you take it out this far.
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Right.
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It s not the one you think about.
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Yeah.
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A little bit.
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What s his name?
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Neil Brennan has a funny sprinkle of Asperger s or whatever it is.
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Well, he says psychopaths and addicts created the world, basically.
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Oh, right.
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Yeah.
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That was in his last special.
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Let me ask you a question.
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Has Lorne ever told you his thing about funny people?
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No.
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Because it sounds like something you would kind of agree with.
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I agree with everything Loren says.
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Me too.
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So I said I m moving somewhere and he always would say something like, will there be funny people there?
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That s the first one.
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And then the second one he goes, because there s like only 900 of us on the planet.
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Specifically, 900.
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Sound about right.
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Globally.
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Globally.
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That s a generous number.
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Whoa, it s high?
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Yeah, because you would used to say like 50 comedians maybe in the country or any good, or 25?
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That sounds high.
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Six?
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Well, the odds aren t good for us.
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I see why.
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It s a rare breed.
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You don t have to rank them.
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I agree.
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Anytime I m at anywhere and if a comedian walks in, any kind of social event, I m very happy because they re immediately critiquing the room and analyzing in a funny way.
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So if we re a dog, are we...
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What, Jack Russell?
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What kind of dog are we?
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I don t think we re Jack, Jack Russell s a too upbeat for.
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Yeah, true.
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What dog breed would you say?
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A Yorkie.
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No, no, no.
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I know, it s the only word in my head.
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Golden Retriever maybe?
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Golden Retriever, too social.
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But they re trying to please.
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Too empathetic and good in social situations.
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You need cynical, awkward, a little bit angry, and a little bit depressed.
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French Bulldog?
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Yes, bingo!
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For our listeners, look that up.
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What dog has that?
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People like those dogs, they re very popular in New York now.
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Valuable too, so it s got that in there.
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Because they steal them a lot.
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They got the ears stick up, I don t really get it.
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Do you have dogs in your- I used to, but we gave them away.
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Okay.
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Did Leno take them or- No, they were Dachshunds and they were really weak.
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Really weak dogs.
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Old?
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No, they, no, I mean- Personality.
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They had no act, you know.
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That s those little dog if you re a dog your act is tennis balls, right?
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a master coming home, a beach, that s your act.
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And they had no act.
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The only thing they can do is go to a gopher hole, stick their snout in it and be still and look down in the gopher hole for hours.
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Not enough for me.
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And that s not really entertaining.
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No.
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I agree.
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Weren t even excited about dinner.
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They were horrible.
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I hated these dogs.
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You got some lemons.
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Yeah.
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It happens.
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So tell me about, I would like to hear, we don t see each other a lot.
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The table s just got turned.
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Ask us anything.
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I have my own talk show.
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I know what the hell, how to do it.
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Ask us anything.
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I want to know, look, no one asked you this.
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I bring the ridge.
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I come with the ridge.
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I didn t think of this, but I m looking at you guys.
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I want to hear how this
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What is this now in your life, this thing you thought it was just, oh, we ll just do some ex-SNL players, that ll be fun.
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And then it blew up.
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I like the sound of that one.
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What do you think about this now?
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Are you glad you did this?
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What is this?
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The only thing I wish about it that I wish it was on video, because it d be fun to see it in action.
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You d make a lot more money too.
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But I do like it because it s kind of old school.
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It s like a newspaper or a telegram.
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Why don t you video?
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We re just sitting here.
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We have cameras here.
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We have a second podcast, We Video.
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Yeah, we just started one so we can video and basically get out there.
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Yeah, it s so easy now.
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Show business, boy, they really changed it up, didn t they?
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Yeah, amazing.
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This is it now.
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This is all a comedian has to do.
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You know what s funny?
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You don t even have to be funny.
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Is that a lot are making so much money that it s... You said something the other day that
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It was sort of forgettable, but it was a, now you said something about movies, and it sort of rang true with me that movies aren t the pinnacle pinnacle, and it always was, always, and now you can make more in standup.
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There s these guys that are playing arenas and going on tour, and they go, I don t even have time to do a movie because I m making so much money, and it doesn t help me enough.
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Let s take the money out of the equation for a second.
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Let s break it down.
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Let s pretend we actually care about the comedy.
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Movies are over was how you were recording.
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Movies are over, which was really fun, and they asked what replaced it, and I said disorientation is the new pinnacle.
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Well, we re all feeling somewhat disoriented.
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Um, I think that, um, you can t just talk about money because you re gonna, you re gonna go down a bad road in your work.
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If you really just go, Oh, I m making more money, exciting in the beginning, but then you got it.
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Yeah.
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If the, what you have to,
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except is that we have to chart a different path.
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Yeah, I saw Nate Bargatze last night, and Ted Sarandos was there, and he s working on putting some kind of show together with Ted, so he s gonna lose money.
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It s so funny now, right?
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He would lose money doing a show.
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This is the thing I really hate, I ve always hated about comedy, is that we have to do other things.
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None of us want to, really.
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This thing we do like, this kind of work is fun.
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You had it on wheels, basically.
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I had it on wheels, I loved it, but I had to edit.
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You don t have to edit.
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Well, this is at times, now it s a long form talking with you and stuff, but at times it s like behind the scenes at SNL, before you had to hone your sketch down,
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the best improv and the best lines were just in the writer s room, or me and Kevin Nealon would laugh for hours doing Hans and Franz.
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And so now we can, and I know you loved it.
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I did.
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So now we can do this.
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But I would say one unexpected thing about this is the camaraderie is now omnipresent.
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We re seeing all these SNL people, comedians, and we re like,
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when will we again be across the table for an hour?
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You know, it just, so you re seeing people for the first time and you feel such empathy for them and their journey and how they re feeling.
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And so it s more emotional.
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That happened to me on comedians in cars.
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And now I m friends with Eddie Murphy, which we weren t friends before.
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And everybody on the show, you, you know, you re texting and it s so nice.
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You do a long chunk of time.
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We talked to Chloe Fineman the other day.
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We both don t know her.
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And then you sort of have a new thing.
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You go, well, they were very interesting.
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They know about their life.
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So the thing is, I guess that we re just interesting to listen to for people.
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I don t know if that s true.
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I mean, I would never.
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I mean, unless it s somebody I really like.
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Yeah.
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Why would you listen?
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Do you listen to podcasts?
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No.
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But you have.
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I have.
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Did you ever listen to one and like it?
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I kind of, you know, the thing is about entertainment now, Jerry, this is something that you would observe.
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People are always doing other things.
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When you re at a comedy club, you re at the club.
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You may be getting a drink, but you re watching the comedian.
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Everyone listening to this will be doing something else.
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Gardening, walking, mostly driving.
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They ll be distracted.
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12% this.
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So we don t have to be that good.
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Right, but we re still good enough.
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Howard Stern invented this, right?
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Yes.
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But we re better than him now.
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Howard is interesting, Howard is a great interviewer, but you know, comedy chops, I mean, can we speak candidly?
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Sure.
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No.
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Well, he got Robin.
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And Robin is a big part of how he s funny.
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Yeah, they re all great, but let s face it, he s been outflanked by some very, and yourselves, I would say is absolutely, this show is,
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comedy podcast, this is the best one on the air.
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It s nice, thank you.
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Because you guys, you play nice together, you re smooth, you re not jumping on each other, which is annoying to listen to.
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We re friends, we don t compete, we really don t.
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He cracks me up, it s fun to hear him, I like to hear him score, I like to talk to guys like you, it s not always this level, but anybody in comedy is interesting to me,
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and we re all a little damaged and beat up, and it s fun to hear.
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So some are tougher than others.
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You probably, when you interview, sometimes it is work.
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Yeah, that s why I had to edit it.
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I couldn t put that out to people with the best stuff.
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You wouldn t put them through it?
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I couldn t do it, no.
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And then I got tired of doing all the editing.
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Right.
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But I do think that people, like with a standup, if they love a standup, you or David or whatever, part of it is they re on your team, they re buying the ticket and they re there.
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They re already rooting for you.
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You re their friend, you re their guy.
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Jerry s smart.
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Jerry does this.
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This is my guy.
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So if you don t kill that night, you re still Jerry.
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So they just like to listen to us.
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If they ve seen me on SNL doing crazy stuff, now they re hearing me now.
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There was none of this before, four years ago, three years ago.
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Who knew there was a market?
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Who knew people wanted to get to know us?
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Who gets the credit for figuring, who figured it out?
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Dennis Miller.
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He did?
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I made that up.
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No, it s not Dennis Miller.
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Who did the first big comedy podcast that people liked?
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that was funny.
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I mean, Marc Maron is more serious.
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Ours isn t that serious.
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We don t dig.
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We don t want to know that much.
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We don t want to put people on the spot either.
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Jesus Christ, make us laugh.
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How interesting do you think you are?
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You re not that interesting, okay?
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You re not.
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When you re funny, you re worth it.
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This is my line, which you know me.
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I know you have a lot of great lines.
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No, but you know that I draw that line.
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If you re not funny, we re not that interested in you.
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That s still my true North Star.
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If I do stand up, I m trying to really be funny.
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Yes, you ve always been that way since you and I hung out.
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What year?
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81?
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I think you might have blown through...
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Not in the 70s.
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Maybe, maybe.
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Maybe late 70s, because you were like 14 months apart in age or something, but you and Jay Leno always seemed like my dad in a way.
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You were so much more professional.
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In fact, you re the first comedian I ever saw with an act, a real act.
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That was at the other cafe in San Francisco at the Haight-Ashbury.
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And our bits were all discombobulated.
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All of it was running into a corner ditch.
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And this was late 70s, and you re like, you had all this stuff laid out.
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I ve never seen anything like that.
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It was like, but you advised me, don t go on the comedy competition.
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You don t need it.
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This was a laugh off.
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San Fran laugh off?
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I did one.
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I did one.
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Came in second.
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Who beat you?
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George Wallace.
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Well, that makes sense.
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Yeah, 78.
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Put him in on Frosted.
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Yeah, I did.
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He has a funny line too.
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I love other people s anguish.
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Is that what he says?
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He s a bartender, yeah.
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He says, trouble keeps me in business.
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I love other people s anguish.
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What about my remembrances of Jerry Seinfeld?
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You don t always remember your openers, no one always does, but we did San Diego Improv on Garnett.
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We ll never forget that.
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And it was fucking great.
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And then I had my Honda and I had my skateboard in the trunk and I would skate around.
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And I think you thought that was interesting.
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And because I was so young, like what was I doing there?
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I was from Arizona.
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And then my recollection, which is funny that what you remember, I don t remember all comics, obviously that you were good, but when you re doing like 45, every comic I d worked with, it wasn t that many, has the same 45, like stamped out on the wall.
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Even if you see them five years later.
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And you did 45 and the next night I watched, you flipped about 20 of it, it was different.
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I couldn t believe you had different stuff and then you flipped it again the next set.
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It s maybe out of boredom.
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That s what I would have done now.
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But I was like, Oh, he s putting, he s flipping the order and he s also changing different materials.
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So you have that much material.
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So I was just a fan across the board of that.
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And you were cool to me.
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We had fun.
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Isn t it funny how, I mean, I remember that so well.
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I remember sitting in your apartment in San Francisco so well.
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You guys don t think that I have forgotten any of these things.
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I just think that it was, there s so many memories, and also I was newer, maybe later you d remember, but when I have openers, some people say, I remember, I go, oh yeah, now that you say it, I remember something like that.
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It s weird, it s weird, but- When you hang out with people, if I hung out with Steve Carell, it would all be about the show we did, and I would go right back to 96, just that it got canceled, but it wasn t Seinfeld, put it that way.
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I was going to ask you a question.
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Do you think that most comedians, even the good ones, are essentially lazy?
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First of all, so impressed that you have questions.
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Is this a little preparation?
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This is out of respect.
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You know what this is, Terry?
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I m so flattered.
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You and Jim Gaffigan are the two that I ve most seen this really discipline.
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I don t even know if you call it a discipline.
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Willingness to tape the act, sit with it, work on the bit.
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If it s not working, like I had a bit once that I could never get to work without saying fuck.
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Right.
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And it really frustrated me.
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Oh, that s interesting.
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And I tried all these different combinations.
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Right.
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It never got quite- Very interesting.
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But I only had one fuck in my act.
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Right.
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Did you ever say, what is the fucking deal?
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I did.
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I had one in a Superman bit, but I m going to answer your other question because it s a really good one.
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I had one in my Superman bit was one of my first bits about that Lois and Jimmy were these reporters and they were always tied up in an effing cave.
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and how are they doing their job, you know?
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And if I took the F out of it, nothing, no laugh.
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So that bothered me.
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I go, so it s not funny unless I say F and cave.
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Well, especially if comedians use it casually, if you re gonna use, we ll call it the F word, make sure it s a punchline.
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Just don t go, oh, how the fuck are you doing?
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Well, you re wasting, if you might get one laugh.
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Oh, it s all wasted, it s all wasted.
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But did you ever figure you couldn t get it to work the same way?
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No, I couldn t get it to work and I thought, well, then that s not funny.
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What the hell am I doing?
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Aren t I supposed to be good with words?
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Isn t that kind of part of this job?
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But as we know, there are many, many people, great, great comedians who use all, a lot of profanity and use it beautifully.
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99% do not, but some do, so I can t say I have a problem, I don t have a problem with the word, but we re supposed to be good with language.
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I think that s what they re paying to see.
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Back to your question, are comedians lazy?
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All humans are lazy, period.
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Right, but they re not standing on a stage getting no laughs because of the laziness.
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No.
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All humans are lazy, period.
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Comedy is the hardest thing to write or do in humanity.
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Comma.
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I was thinking you had more.
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No, I don t have anything.
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Look, we all know writers.
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My friend Barry Martis says, you think you re funny or you want to be in the business, you want to do it.
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Write me one page of standup.
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One page.
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And you see exactly how, chops or no chops.
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One page of stand-up.
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Writing stand-up, it s poetry that makes air burst out of your mouth.
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That s what it is.
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Let me ask you a question.
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What I find- No, please stop announcing questions.
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Stop.
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I have a question.
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Question for you.
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Edward R. Murrow was my grandfather.
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It s on my mom s side.
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Quick question is the worst.
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You just doubled the length of the question.
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That s how much you know about quickness.
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I m gonna ask you a question.
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This one s very serious.
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Go ahead.
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Do you do any race jokes?
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A lot of comics are doing race jokes.
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I would do any joke I could think of that works, that I like.
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I don t have anything on race.
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But why would you ask that question?
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Because some African American comics have race jokes and it doesn t seem like a lot of white comics have race jokes.
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Yeah.
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We ll take this out.
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I mean, I m going to ask you a question.
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Why did you pause there?
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Because what he said was so stupid.
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I didn t know how to respond.
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No, I have another one.
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I wonder why black people think about race more than white.
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No, I know.
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I m just saying, is it possible if that has something to do with their life experience?
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Well, is it possible to make fun of race if you re white?
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That s I m saying is like, is it too touchy or is just too off limits or is it just better left outside?
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I really, really get ill when I hear, as a white guy, oh I m white, I really hate that crap.
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I don t like any of that.
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White guy, black guy, this guy.
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But I do love, and you ll say, it s so hacky, I absolutely love any, black people do this, white people do this, I love that bit.
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I don t care who does it, I don t care what you got, I love that bit.
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It s funny.
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Steve Harvey, the yellow suit special, white man fishing, black man fishing, come on.
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Love that.
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Have you ever seen Steve Harvey s bit, it s on YouTube, where he s, if baby boomers went to war.
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No.
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It s so brilliant.
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It s like nine minutes and it s extraordinary.
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So that s what I care about because we were talking about money or something before.
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I don t care how many tickets you sell.
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I don t care where you re playing.
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I don t care what you re raking in.
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Let me see this stuff.
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If you ve got great stuff, I m really envious and impressed.
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I don t care.
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So what are you going to do with this money?
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How many square feet is your house?
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Who cares how far you walk to take a leak?
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I totally agree.
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Bits.
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Bits is our only currency.
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That s what I m saying.
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Yes.
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And people ask, did you always think this and that?
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And I ll ask my wife because I met her in 79.
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Did I ever
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mention getting rich and famous.
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She says, never.
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Right.
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Right.
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Never.
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I was only trying to kill in the club.
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Be as good.
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Right.
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You are one of the great, uh, uh, kill, um, club though.
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You, you re a, you re a, uh, you re kill obsessed.
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which is what makes a great comedian.
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You are up there, and I think I m not at your level, but I have that.
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I have got to get these people.
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I have to get these people.
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That s what I care about more than anything.
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Yes, I do.
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It s nice to live a nice life, of course.
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It s nice how we live and all that.
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The best thing ever in the clubs, Jerry, was a woman with a napkin going like this.
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Right, in the front row?
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Yeah.
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Because you know that you ve reorientated her world.
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That s it, that s it.
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Well, turning a crowd around is a good feeling.
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Yeah.
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If you re not working, it s not working and you re trying every trick in the book and it starts to come around and you re like, oh my god, 30 minutes in and I ve got them.
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Did you ever open for music in the day?
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And go out?
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No, that s too tough, I think.
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Did you do that?
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Oh yeah, a lot.
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That s a tough one.
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It s kind of fun, right?
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It can be.
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I opened for Todd Runger, I opened for Robert Palmer, I opened for Tower of Power.
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Sometimes your hero will be on in a second.
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But first, this is me in 1978 going to college.
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Dana Garneau.
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Boo!
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Fuck you!
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Yeah, yeah.
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Doesn t that make a man out of you?
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Uh, yes, it does.
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I did it for Kid Rock in a, in a, like a probably 7,000 seater outdoor outdoor to boot.
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Uh, did I get them?
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Let s look at a clip.
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When s the last time you really bombed?
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Yeah.
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Do you still bomb a lot?
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Like in your mind, like you were off.
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I m not going to tell you where, when it was recently, it was Winnipeg.
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It was a couple of weeks ago and I came off and went, that was shit.
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And I was really, and I m still, I have a set tonight at the Hollywood Bowl we re doing.
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Is this it?
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Oh, that s gonna be great.
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When is this drop?
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This airs in two years.
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No, the Hollywood Bowl sounds like such a fucking fun show.
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Is it you, Gaffigan?
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Gaffigan, Nation.
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And Bregazzi.
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And Sebastian.
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Who s following Sebastian?
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Here s what we re going to do.
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We re going to go out with a top hat with four number balls.
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Oh, I love it.
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I love it.
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So you might open.
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I might open.
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Yeah, I love it.
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In your mind, you may not want to answer this, who s the hardest to follow of those three?
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Following is a philosophical... No, I think there s an energy thing there.
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Oh, no, no.
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Following is me versus me.
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I ll follow anybody.
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I followed Cosby after 9-11, we did a benefit at Carnegie Hall, and I followed Cosby, who I was adored as a child, sat there on the floor playing Why Is There Air over and over and over, and I followed him, it was no problem.
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So following, that s it.
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What about Kenison?
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Did you follow Kenison in his prime?
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Well now you re talking I did and I bombed right five five, but that s that s loud too loud as tough loud as tough But you know look have you ever remember in the old days?
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We used to flip around TV
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and you re watching a cartoon, and then you re watching porn, and it s no problem.
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You can change lanes.
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The human brain is built to change lanes.
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No, you just need a minute.
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If I follow Dennis Miller when he s really got them, I can follow it, but you have to deal with his energy for a couple of minutes.
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No, forget it.
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His energy is none of your business.
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Well, it stays there for a moment.
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Yeah, that s not your problem.
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I just go out and do something like that.
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Say I m playing Tucson, I go, what s up Tucson?
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And I have them.
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Okay.
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Last night I did a set, right?
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But I m on the, I m on the bill.
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So they know I m there.
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And that only matters because, uh, John Mulaney comes in.
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And he does a guest set.
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And so he s very hard to follow anyway.
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And he s, I m not saying I don t agree with you, but he s also a guest set.
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So it s even better.
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You know what I mean?
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He s surprised.
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He goes off and you want to tell the, you know, MC what you would never do.
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Do one joke in the middle.
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But I didn t even say that.
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I didn t use that bullshit, that crutch.
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I just said, bring me right the fuck up.
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And then I went up and I just said, John Mulaney, great.
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You guys got lucky tonight.
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And then I go right into it and I did good.
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And it s hard.
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You just go right into it.
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You go, I got to floor it because you can t be the one they take the night off on.
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You know, if there s great comics in a row like you four tonight, sometimes they go, I ve laughed too hard.
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If someone doesn t, their first joke doesn t work, they go.
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Yeah, let s get some beers.
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And then everyone kind of goes down for you, and you go, oh, this is the one they took off on.
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They just kind of said it.
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He s not going to be that great.
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In your case, Jerry, I saw up close.
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It was at the comic strip.
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Must have been early 80s, early 80s.
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Going into the files.
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So there was a lot of stuff going on.
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People were killing or drinking.
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The room was completely unsettled.
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This is where you were, Jerry Seinfeld.
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So you came up, and I was just in the back watching.
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And you re doing your thing.
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No laugh.
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No laugh.
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No laugh.
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But you re not losing it.
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You just keep going and going.
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And after about seven or eight minutes, you started to get them.
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And then you ended up killing.
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And I remember, I never forgot that.
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I go, this guy is bombing, but he s just laying out these great bits one after the other.
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No one cared.
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Everyone s talking, but you wore them down.
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See, I gave you a compliment.
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Thank you, thanks Dana, that s so nice.
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He calls it out too, here s a compliment.
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Corporate gigs are like that.
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Corporate gigs, sometimes you can get them after like 20.
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They start hating you, or just they don t care about you, and then they start to go, what the fuck s this guy talking about?
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And then they start to get some smiles, and then that s a big victory, especially at corporate gigs.
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Yeah, so you do corporates.
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We all do them.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah, you sell the house.
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Yeah.
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Think I get this from getting 28 bucks at the improv?
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I used to do like 50 a year or 60 a year.
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They re paying real money at these clubs now.
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At the clubs?
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Yeah, these clubs, you re making hundreds of dollars.
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Yeah.
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It s up to 50, no, not 100, but it s up there.
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400 seaters, you know, two shows.
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Do you ever do two shows anymore?
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Yeah, I still do.
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Okay.
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In one night?
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Yeah, one night.
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Wow.
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What is your perfect size venue?
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A lot of people brag like we played this and it s bigger and bigger.
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I don t like to.
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You wouldn t care.
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What s a good type?
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It s not my job.
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Is a couple thousand where you want to stop and say?
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It s not my job.
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The stage is my job.
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I don t care who s out there.
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I know.
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I m saying, do you like it?
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No, I don t care what I like.
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So if they...
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I know what you fucking like.
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Would you prefer screens or not screens?
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You don t care.
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I don t.
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If it s 20,000 seats.
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Caring is not my job.
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Do you want the microphone to actually amplify?
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That s not your job.
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Do I love arenas?
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No.
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Thank you.
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There we go.
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We cracked them down.
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We broke them.
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I don t love it, but it s not my job to think.
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If you re hired, you re supposed to do good no matter what.
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What?
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Are you saying if you re hired, you re there, you do good no matter what?
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I m here to do the best I can.
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If it s one person or 100,000.
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The best I can with your setup.
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That s my job.
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Jerry, I have a question for you.
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Yeah.
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And I m going to answer.
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Good attitude.
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what you would have done.
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That s very political, this gesture.
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There he is, Jerry Seinfeld.
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Funny.
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Don t you love, Dana, just quick, when they go, look.
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The word look is like, what do I say?
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When they get asked the question, look.
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And I disagree with everything you ve just said.
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Who had the bit where they had the glasses on and they go, what do you mean my son s gay?
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Who was that guy?
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I don t remember.
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I had a putting a cigarette out bit to end the argument.
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Oh, I had one of those, but I used to do it that people who smoke when they put, they don t, they re not annoyed by the smoke until they put it out.
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So anyway, that was great.
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Went to the pool.
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Don t forget your question.
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What about the doctor eating shit?
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Okay, here s the question.
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What Jerry Seinfeld would have done.
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Maybe a thousand seater out in West Virginia.
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A little soft.
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Jay Pharoah played the night before, so I assumed, so I said, sounds just like Jay.
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I mean, how s the sound?
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I didn t do a sound check.
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Oh yeah, it was great.
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Sounds great.
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So I go up, huge slap back.
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Hello, hello, hello, hello.
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I don t think they can fix it or they would have, so I had to do the whole set feeling like I was in a fishbowl.
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Oh, that s hard.
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That s really hard.
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Because you start- No, it wasn t hard, because hard s not my business.
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Yeah.
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No, hard is your business.
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Hard is exactly your business.
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The choice is just to suck it up and do it.
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That s right.
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Or to go, could you guys-
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You start to have a mini production meeting, because you re trying to be funny, but you re like, hey guys, this guy from DeVry over here, but honestly, could you fucking fix this?
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And are you hearing that?
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And then blah, blah, and are these lights too bright?
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But you try to work it in, but you can t just stop and go, OK, here s what s going on.
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Because if they can t fix it, now the audience is on to it and gone.
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I did a show two weeks ago and I said, 10 minutes into the set, please go to the box office and ask for a refund if you re not happy.
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And $4,000 had to be returned because they cocked up the sound.
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So, by the way, when you had that bad set, did you think you were just... Sometimes I feel like the audience is better than me.
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It was a B. It s a B. Yeah, I was about to say, easy, easy, Dana.
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It was a bad set.
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But would you have felt... Sometimes the audience... You re better than the audience.
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Sometimes the audience is a little quiet and you re really on, and sometimes the audience is really good and I feel just a little... Yeah, that s all fine.
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Yeah, good.
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But there are those shows where you can t get that coat off.
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You know what I mean?
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You walk in someone s house, you got your coat on, and your job is to take your coat off and just
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be comfortable in their house, and that s a set.
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When you get your coat off in front of the audience, okay, I m here with you, we re socializing, quote unquote, and I couldn t get off of myself.
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I have a trainer guy, Adam Wright, and he s a sports psych who works for a lot of teams, a lot of Olympians, and we discussed the negative voice a lot, which every comedian,
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is intimately acquainted with, the war between you and the negative voice on stage, telling you, why would you even go into this field?
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It s clearly not your forte.
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It s not working.
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It s not working.
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Tennis is very strong.
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Tennis, golf, and stand up, if you have to
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have a strategy for the negative voice so you won t be able to play.
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I would say like the code analogy for me is sometimes I forget to say this one thing right before I go out.
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Have fun.
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And if I forget to say that and I m out there, why is this not feeling good?
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I m not having fun.
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But the good sets are like you re having fun.
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It s a subtle distinction.
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But if you forget to have fun and that voice is really loud, the best is when the voice is gone.
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right the best yes very hard to completely yeah but fun is not really a good um it s an internal clinical word the the real the sports uh psychology word is flow that that s the state that you seek in writing or performing
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or socializing, flow is really the word.
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It is a bit overused, but there s no better word for it.
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Would you accept zone?
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Tone?
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Zone?
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Yeah, zone.
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I ll accept zone.
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I ll accept zone.
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But flow is a little more... Flow has movement.
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And that s what you re always trying to find.
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Let me try and do this bit a little different.
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Maybe I can find fun or flow.
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But when you get flowing, and then they get flowing, and then you don t have to work.
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Well, it s like you re enjoying it and they can feel it.
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And it feeds, it s a feedback loop.
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You guys are seeing the really good show.
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Do you ever do that?
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Do you ever like, it s going really well, and you say, you guys are really great tonight?
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Do you?
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I can t do that.
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I didn t think you would.
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I didn t think you would.
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I tell them it s their fault when they re not laughing.
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I gotta let them know.
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What I will say is my version of that is I ll just take a sip of water and go, let s go to work.
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Okay.
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That s what I ll say.
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That s my way of saying, this is a good crowd, I m into this.
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I have a theory that most comedians, especially the all-time greats, have a little bit of a tell for the audience, and that s a little giggle.
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And if you look at Pryor, Pryor had the, you know, a constant little thing.
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That s funny.
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Louis C.K.
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will do eight or nine minutes, and then once in a while, he ll just do a big laugh.
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And you ll do it, and then you ll put a little laugh in everyone s mouth.
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It s very subtle, but they re seeing that you re enjoying it.
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I ve seen that.
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Your eye is stunning, by the way.
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You have an amazing eye.
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Thank you.
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That you know that and you tweezered those out.
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That s great.
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Well, I m just curious.
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No, I got a tweezer for you.
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I like to see a great comic that doesn t have one.
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I don t think you do.
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I don t think you do tons of crowd work from when I ve seen you.
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I do, my encore is always Q&A.
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I guess that s crowd work.
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That s just fun, right?
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But you don t open with it.
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So you win them over without it, and then you have it at the end.
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But a crowd work thing that s funny is when someone goes, hey, blah, blah, blah, and then they answer.
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And then if it doesn t get a laugh, he goes, two weeks ago in Cincinnati, I asked this lady the same question.
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I go, you re reliving a joke that wasn t from this crowd?
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Have you seen that trick?
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It s hysterical.
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I saw it last night, I was like, ay caramba.
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How do you feel, this is a younger person s thing that they do.
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I m curious if it bothers you.
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Any comedian that says, when I wrote that joke, that s...
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It s not really part of the show, dude.
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We ve come here to hear, let s play the illusion that you re this funny.
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The magic rabbit will appear and we don t know how it got out of the hat.
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Don t say when I wrote this show, please.
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Now, when you re watching stand-up or watching a special, do you find yourself being analytical a little bit?
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What are you talking about?
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Well, you re going, oh, he s doing that bit.
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Oh, he s doing, you know, just watching the stand-up, maybe a young stand-up.
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It s all right, we can move on.
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Wow.
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Note to self, never bring up- That was worse than the race.
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Sorry about him.
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Sorry about him.
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You sit down for a- I was, thank God.
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No.
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You re just saying it s so obvious that you do.
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I am always, we re always, have the meter running in the cab, we re watching.
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how, you know, when I watched Nate, when I called him a great writer.
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Yeah.
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And I watched his second special and I wasn t really that into him.
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I hadn t seen, I shouldn t say that I hadn t seen much of him, but the second one, his, uh,
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laugh per minute rate was so high.
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So that I called him and I said, that was a really, and my daughter is writing comedy.
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And I said, this is what we call tight.
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This is what this defines tight.
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And so the meter s running, but I will totally get lost in anybody I like.
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But that other thing is also there.
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Well, once in a while, stand-up has someone come on and it s kind of, they have their moment, you know?
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And so I think it was seven or eight years ago when I just would go through and watch Sebastian, his first kind of special, and his physicality and his rhythm.
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He s clipping his toenails over there, eating the Cinnabon.
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And I was just like, okay, this is a rebirth for me.
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This is new, familiar, but new.
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And I knew that that was his moment.
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And I m trying to think the current, but that happens once in a while.
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It lasts a few years.
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Not often.
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Not often.
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Once a decade?
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Yeah.
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I mean, definitely.
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I think Nate is having his moment.
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Sebastian had his a few years ago.
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Who was before that?
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Chris?
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Well, Louis.
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Louis.
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Yeah, Louis.
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Louis had his moment.
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It s quite rare.
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It s quite rare when all the pieces- Nate does have a high slugging percentage of like, you keep watching, you go, wow.
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Because a thing that I was not accustomed to, and you probably weren t,
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more is when a new thing of doing tour special, tour special.
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And I always feel like the first one s probably the best special, and then these are the second best jokes.
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It just feels like, just because how hard I work on just jokes to work, and I hate throwing them in the garbage.
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And you don t really have to, I guess.
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Because I sort of like a little mix.
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I like stuff that I love, and I like stuff that
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Like if you were on, I wouldn t mind if you pulled out They ve Seen the Fork or whatever that joke is.
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Yes, I still do that.
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But I hate to tell you this, we re old and out of it.
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That s just not the way it s done.
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I m told every day.
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Of course.
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But if I went to see George Carlin, I would love if he did baseball and football.
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Oh yeah.
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I would love that.
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That s what I m saying.
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But I think our day has passed.
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I remember a comedian coming to the punchline in San Francisco.
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It might have been Frank Orchman or something.
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The impression.
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But he was like 55.
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And I was like, what is he even doing this for?
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Why would you still be out of the house?
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I was 26.
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Do you remember Denny s joke?
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Denny Johnston?
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No, Denny Miller.
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Oh, THE Denny.
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Do you remember, for some reason I want to see Nancy Reagan in Frank Gorshin s old Riddler costume.
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Do you remember that joke?
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I think about that joke at least once a week.
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I love that joke so much.
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I don t know what it is.
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He has to say Frank Gorshin s old Riddler costume.
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And you see the image immediately.
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You get that image.
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The green tights.
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Yeah.
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I mean, Dennis, I love Dennis.
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Dennis, my favorite one, I don t know why this one always stuck in my brain.
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He s up there and he goes, Jimmy cracked corn and I don t care.
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Big pause.
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What the kind of hell attitude is that?
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I m so glad you re laughing that hard.
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I love Dennis so much.
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Dennis is brilliant.
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I mean he was the one where I started when I would go to the improv when I was like that old
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I was probably 20, 21, and the chalkboard.
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And it would be guys like you and Leno and maybe Dennis and Kevin.
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Not so much Dana, because he was more up in San Fran when I started, but I d see him.
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But I would go in there, and it was such great comedy school, just to watch and go, fuck, is everyone this fucking good?
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I mean, it s unreal.
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How about his big gulp one?
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You know what I mean?
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Big gulp, 32 ounces of liquid.
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Who needs that much liquid?
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I just stepped off the surface of the sun.
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I m a little parched.
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You can only drink with a fucking undertow.
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You got a life to lead, chonk chonk.
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Or the guy who didn t forgive the Pope.
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You re lucky my chick s not here.
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Yeah, Dennis got a million.
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But I think in the hall of fame of our generation, I think of you and Leno and Dennis.
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You know, I saw Jay last night.
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We had the premiere of Unfrosted last night.
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Jay was there.
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Jimmy Brogan was there.
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Larry David was there.
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And I felt like I was getting married to myself.
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It was like, well, there s the life.
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That was the life.
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It was fantastic that they showed up, you know.
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and who wants to support me why you know that there s a raise more success exactly that s about helping out this guy you know i m not to talk about the movie but on friday to talk about speaking of tight
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One thing that hit me pretty quickly was how fast it was moving.
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Not really like a normal movie.
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It s got a story, so it s not just set up punchline, but it s really line, line, lap.
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It feels like a rhythm where it just goes, wow, you re not wasting any time.
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You re getting the scenes out, which takes a lot of work ahead of time to just tighten, tighten.
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But I thought Gaffigan was funny.
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Everyone that came in, of course, I got the whole cast list here, but Melissa McCarthy s always funny.
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Amy was in it, Bill Burr, of course.
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The surprise takes you a second to find out it s him.
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But everywhere you turn, there s some funny people.
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And the movie is light.
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It s maybe, I wouldn t say Willy Wonka-ish, but something weird.
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Something like that.
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Very light.
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Very fun.
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It s a mad, mad, mad world.
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It s people caring so much about something and so maddingly caring about a serial thing.
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That was the track we tried to sing.
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This, I think, as a director, this is my first note that I thought was great.
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The kid in the first scene is so good.
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So good.
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So hard to get a kid that good.
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Isaac Bay, who I just love this kid.
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I saw him last night.
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I hadn t seen him since we shot that.
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I just was hoping, is Isaac gonna come?
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to the premiere.
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I got to see him again.
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He was just a sweet kid.
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He was funny.
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He didn t realize how funny he was.
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And he had some adult line, like, I ve had better days.
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There was something really funny.
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Leave the box.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And the guy at the counter says, tough day.
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He says, you don t want to know.
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That was it.
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You don t want to know.
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And then a little while later, you had the little girl in the dumpster.
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Like, she was a star.
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She was great.
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She was great.
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Her voice, and then she comes back.
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She s got a lot of
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She s a killer.
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Did you add her because those two were getting laughs?
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Did you add a scene for them?
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No.
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That s done sometimes.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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No, we didn t.
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We didn t.
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But you know, when the scene s killer, obviously there were scenes I cut, but their scenes always worked well.
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Tell me her name again, the little girl.
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Okay, I got her right in front of me.
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Yeah.
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Her name is Daily Sheets.
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No, Bailey was the boy.
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Her name is John Slattery, I think.
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She s kind of a cherubic face.
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Her name is John Hamm.
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I like when Amy calls her Cabbage Patch.
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Amy Schumer is so great in this movie.
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She s so funny.
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God, you had Gaffigan was so fucking funny in this movie.
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It was a perfect part for him.
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He looked like central casting from a 60s sitcom or something.
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Born to play that role, right?
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The son of the president of Kellogg s.
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He inherited the company.
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And he plays it so earnestly.
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Kyle Dunnigan doing Cronkite, that was a great runner.
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And he did Carson too.
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I saw that with the face thing.
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The face replacement.
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We interviewed him right here.
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Oh yeah, how great is he?
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He s as good as they come.
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As good as they come.
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Brilliant.
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Underused, undersold, I m glad you re using that.
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Very humble, kind of unassuming, but he nails it.
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Christian Slater was great.
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He came up with the whole Cronkite, I ll stop drinking when you stop talking.
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That was an ad lib in a take.
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I said, that s this character, that s who he is.
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Nobody knew that Walter Cronkite had an
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uh an old uh bitch wife and a drinking problem it is a it s our generations you know it s such a touchstone yeah i mean i mean syria was huge in our family oh sure huge silly putty x-ray specs yeah they all get a shout out
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Silly Putty, if you got one, which one?
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We ll tell you what Tom Hanks said.
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Wow, that s a tough call.
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I d probably go with Silly Putty because of the egg.
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The egg was a hit.
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I love the dual, two-color egg.
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I didn t slam it too hard, then you never see it again.
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That s Superbowl.
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Superbowl is a hit too.
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Silly Putty is like you go for the newspapers.
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I went nuts when they came out with the Superbowl mini.
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Do you remember the Superbowl mini?
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Oh, the little tiny one, yeah.
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The little one gets lost faster.
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When they did that, I went, wow, they made it smaller.
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Yeah, and you would slam it on the sidewalk and it would fly.
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I want a bigger one so I can fucking find it.
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Sometimes they just go and that s it.
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You get one out of it and then it s like down the street.
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Yeah, so you wonder, are kids having as much fun today as we had?
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No, I don t think so.
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The Stingray was in there too.
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You had everything.
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The Stingray, yeah, everything I loved.
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Everything.
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It was a little indulgent.
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I have to- Why would it be indulgent?
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I just love stingrays.
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There s no reason for that to be in there.
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Oh, Steve Schwinn and the stingray?
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Yeah.
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Well, we had to kill somebody because I wanted to do the full serial honors buryout.
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That was the bit I wanted to do.
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With the milk and all, yeah.
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I think the rhythm that you hit with the movie was like, if this joke wasn t your thing, just wait a second.
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Here s another one.
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Well, we re comics.
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I m not a filmmaker, I m a comic.
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I have a 13-year-old nephew and I said, what is the equivalent of a Slinky for you to kill time?
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And he said, porn, online porn.
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Is that a joke?
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No.
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That s sad.
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And Slinkys would get all caught up.
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Only because you re never gonna enjoy sex.
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You re never gonna enjoy it.
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And that s a shame, isn t it?
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I had a slinky and I don t like seeing it.
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They ruined it, they ruined it.
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I know, we had a Playboy magazine at the dump and we just saw a little bit, but there s hardcore porn for a first grader.
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I don t agree with it.
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Just count me as, don t like porn for kids.
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Taking a stand.
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Who said this?
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I quit porn.
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Chris.
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Yeah.
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It s so funny.
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You could just do the pace without the words.
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Tells me every day.
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Also the fingers on his shoulder.
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Spade.
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Spade.
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Listen to me.
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He had one of the greatest lines I ve ever heard about how to be a professional comedian.
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We were talking the other day, we did Kevin Hart s Mark Twain Prize.
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He was talking to some young comic, not gonna mention that name either, and he was telling him, he said to the kid, what do you do during the day?
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He says, I don t hang out.
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Don t do anything during the day?
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And he says to the kid, during the day is when you make the money.
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I go, yeah, we collect it at night, but we make it during the day.
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So that line, he and I really love that line, that that should be the code for Sam.
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But I think all the young kids today, they do.
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They re either doing these, they re selling, or they re writing, but you make money during the day, you collect it at night.
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So you go out in the world and that s how you get big.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Look at things.
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Do you have any bit that you haven t, that s just in your brain right now and you haven t done it in your act, just the thing you re working on?
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Tons.
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Any you want to sell one?
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Oh, I would just, I had a notion.
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I don t have any, maybe you try to finish it.
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We ll fix it right now.
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You probably have thought of this.
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A question announcements.
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Uh, I ve got a little bit of a grip on it that I did earlier to you.
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yes uh no more stop announcing i have a question right one question well that s in your right question yeah i m working i m working you fell into the trap that was a bit so that was i kind of knew that and i was sort of a cynicist
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Yeah, that was an assessment.
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I made that up.
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So that s what I m working on.
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My thing is this, because the phone is always going in and out of the car, talking to someone, I m taking you into the car now.
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I m going for a ride?
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Can I just have a conversation?
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I m putting you in my ear.
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Oh, okay.
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That s funny.
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My wife said the other day, oh, I just dropped you in the trash.
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Oh, that s really funny.
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That s a concept.
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I love it.
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That s so much more you that you can run with it.
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You re giving it to me?
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I am.
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I don t want it.
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That s too sweet.
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That s too nice.
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It s something you could make.
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I have enough.
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Yeah, you ve already done so much for me just having me on the show.
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You re our biggest guest in quite a long time.
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That s cool.
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I don t want to waste the notes that you did.
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These are notes that I had about the movie that I liked.
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I missed the first hour, but I love it.
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I love Bill Burr as Kennedy.
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We love Bill Burr as Kennedy.
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He sounded like Kennedy, even his regular voice pretty much.
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Yeah.
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Well, Bill Burr is the only guy out of Boston that I ve liked since Kennedy.
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A long time.
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Yeah, a long time.
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Those are my two, the only two guys out of Boston that I like.
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The Peppermint Twins are here.
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Yeah, so are they wearing the traditional garb?
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I think this meeting s over.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, him as Kennedy was so fun.
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Did you have to cut any friends out of the movie and tell them?
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No, no.
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Brush over that one.
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What is your favorite scene in the movie, if you have one?
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The Pop-Tart launching into the toaster, which I stole from Ron Howard s Apollo 13.
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I took the same track, Spirit in the Sky, Norman Greenbaum, those Pop-Tart launches.
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I just like the energy of that.
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I felt like I was filmmaking there.
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It felt like a big budget.
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Inside a toaster, that whole thing, like a rocket.
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Inside the toaster.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And the funeral scene, which was a scene that a lot of people did not want to do.
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They said it won t work, it s not on story.
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And I said, yeah, but this is why you make comedy movies.
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To do something really silly that you think will play.
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Mel Brooks, the Cowboys come into the Busby Brooklyn.
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What else?
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That whole movie to me is to just get to that.
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And Harvey Korman saying Raisinets at the candy counter.
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You remember that?
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Yes.
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Count Vodka.
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Was that one of the lines?
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Count Vodka.
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Hysterical.
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But that just, it just peppered with so many jokes that it s hard to remember all of them, but I just remember going, oh, it s still going, it s still going, it s still funny, it s still funny, it s over.
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Before I forget, before I forget, Jon Hamm s moment with Melissa McCarthy when they re flirting.
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Yes.
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It s just a very, worked really, I thought Jon Hamm was,
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stood out too, with all these cameos you had.
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How he was so serious about advertising.
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Yeah, why are they so mean?
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It s just advertising.
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He gets in your face.
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He was so cool about doing that and doing that with John Slattery.
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Yeah, they were really amazing to do that.
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That was a dream that you thought, can we get them?
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You didn t think they would do it?
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yeah so that the other thing i wanted to do that i couldn t i almost did was chris rock was going to be the emcee of the bowl and spoon awards and we shot that right after the will smith slap and i was going to have somebody come up on the stage and have chris punch him out as they got there
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And then Chris, he wasn t up to perform.
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He was still a little shook from that event.
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But that was what that scene was going to be.
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But Cedric saved the day.
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I love Cedric.
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Yeah, he was instantly hilarious in that moment.
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Do you think that would have been funny if Chris as an MC of the Bowl and Spoons, somebody comes up on stage and he lays them out?
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Without the Will Smith thing, I think it s funny.
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It just sort of, there s a still kind of a residual darkness around that moment.
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Yeah, isn t that what we re attracted to?
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I don t know.
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I m just saying, if we were in the writer s room, I d be sitting with you and Spike going, it could be, let s think about that.
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Yeah.
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But if Chris is there, wants to do it, you get it.
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I don t know if it would have worked.
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You can always trim it.
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It was an idea.
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Always get the shot.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So what was your first cut?
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How long was it?
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Because the movie s like 85 minutes.
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84 minutes.
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And there s not a chance in hell I was going to go over that.
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I don t know how long the first cut was, but I definitely pulled out at least 15.
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Wait, you had a number in your head first?
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Oh yeah.
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Wow.
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Woody.
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Woody Allen?
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Woody would go 81, 82 and everyone s happy.
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No one s not happy with Andy Hall.
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It s too short.
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We do comedy, we get in, we get out.
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I think you said about stand-up, or maybe I asked you just off the record about a party or something.
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At a certain point, it gets to be people... Even Rock, with his specials, an hour and a half, I go, why don t you save a half for the next one?
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Just do a tight hour, and he goes, nah.
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I think they expected from him maybe, but I was like, I m from the school of after an hour, it starts to get- What they expect is not our business.
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It is our business.
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Don t give them what they want.
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You think they know what they want?
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If they knew what they want, they wouldn t have to pay to get it.
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Let s get that on a T-shirt.
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Yeah, I feel like, oh, when I m watching someone and it goes over a certain amount, I start to lose, and that s when I start to go, God, I love comedy, and I m starting to go, fuck, how long is this going?
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You can ruin it so fast.
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And I learned that watching Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis at the Sands.
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In Vegas?
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In Vegas, and Jerry came out,
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He did 45.
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Sammy came in, they did another hour together, and then Sammy started singing, and it was like, this is now not a good experience.
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I always felt that Jerry Lewis  telethon was too long.
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There ain t anything else.
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Sammy can go on a long time.
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I was sitting with Kevin Pollack s about to go on The Tonight Show.
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He s out of his mind.
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I was just there visiting, so excited.
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And Sammy s singing.
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So Sammy gets a thing cause the name of love and then he breaks it down break it down And I just see Kevin just deflating in the green room.
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There s a knock maybe next time I want to hear more stuff you like that makes me feel good and stuff that I didn t like made me laugh at your first name is is a Trap pop
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Trap up.
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Did you see it coming that we were gonna know?
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It was a mirror image Yeah, the silly putty but I like cuz you know, you I knew I didn t change I didn t know how you re gonna find figure that out We didn t either and that was a great.
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Yeah, we didn t either does it make sense?
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Exactly.
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Yeah, it s the exact reverse words letters, right?
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I said if he s fucking cheating this no, I didn t because it was a big discussion of should we show it on the silly putty spelled backwards or
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make it say Pop-Tart back and forth.
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And that we like to do what it would really look like with the letters backwards.
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It s funny when it s a bad name and everyone s like, yes.
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It sounds horrible, it means nothing.
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Snap, Crackle, Pop, Bobby Moynihan, those three characters.
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Mikey Day.
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That wasn t Bobby Moynihan.
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Mikey Day.
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No, Bobby, he was Chef Four.
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I saw the movie, Mikey Day.
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You did a great movie recently.
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Do you still wanna do another?
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What are you talking about, Wrong Missy?
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Yeah, Wrong Missy was great.
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Wrong Missy, thank you, bud.
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Yeah, I have one I wrote with Theo Vaughn.
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You know Theo, the comic?
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So we re trying to do that hopefully end of summer this year.
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Oh great, fantastic.
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So we wrote it together, so even if you like one of us, just come to that one.
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Who are you working with?
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It s about serial, it s a little bit of a bump.
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Netflix?
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No, I wrote that.
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We don t know yet.
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Oh, okay.
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We don t know who the lucky winner is yet.
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Right.
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Embarrassing.
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You ve got James Marsden in there too.
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Yeah, James Marsden.
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James Marsden.
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Did you see Jury Duty that he did?
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No.
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Oh, it s amazing.
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I heard about it.
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Yeah, mock documentary.
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Yeah.
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And the bloopers, I always like outtakes at the end.
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Yeah.
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I do.
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Yeah, me too.
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Singing and dancing, laughing, breaking character.
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Yeah.
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It s just fun.
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Yeah.
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The movie s just fun.
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Thank you.
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And I do think that this will get a little zeitgeisty.
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You ll have a strong opinion about this.
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This is so trite right now.
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You know, with the way the world s going, we need- Please stop.
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I know you re- I m going to- I m begging you.
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I m begging you.
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I know ahead of time.
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You know, in these troubled times, Mr. Seinfeld- I will pay money for you to stop talking.
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Do you have to get the cast to stay to shoot the song?
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Yes.
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At the end of the day when they re tired?
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Yes.
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How is that?
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Not fun.
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I knew it.
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Anything extra on a day is like... Spike gets all the credit for that.
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I could not ask them.
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He would.
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He thought it would work.
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I never thought it would work.
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It does work.
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because the song is cute and it just gets you off.
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The cow farting thing, when you re running through the cow fart thing.
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What were you thinking during that?
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That actually happened to Spike in real life as a kid.
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They forced him to exit a dairy barn between two cows.
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a line of cows, and I just found that so funny.
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He was so traumatized by it as a kid, so we put it in the movie.
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And then your character is traumatized.
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There s nothing else to make him feel bad.
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I can t get clean, you re having a nervous breakdown.
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I can t wash it out of my mind.
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That was it.
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You re clean now, what about my mind?
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I can t unsee it.
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Do you still have this Mount Rushmore as just something someone lied about?
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Richard Pryor, Carlin, Cosby, Rickles?
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Is that close?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But I do think I started the Mount Rushmore trend.
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Oh, by saying the Mount Rushmore of something?
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Yes.
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Of something, I think.
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And my advisor, Tom Keeney, agrees that that s... I did it with Rickles, to introduce Rickles.
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What s your comedy standup memoir?
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You don t want to hurt anyone s feelings, but.
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No, no, but if you go back to, there s two ways for me to think of it.
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Like now looking back, but like in the seventies, they were all magic.
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I saw prior on Ed Sullivan doing regular standup.
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Sure, of course.
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And they were all magic to me, Jonathan Winters.
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Absolutely deserves that.
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And Carlin, you have to put in there.
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And I think that... Carlin Winters, you got one more slot.
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Well, then mid-70s, like Steve Martin, peak Steve Martin.
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Yeah, that s a pretty great group.
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And Robin Williams, who
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Sorry, we re out of time.
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Yeah, we are out of time.
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Who I thought later about Robin and what, because he was very, he s like, oh, I think I might ve taken material from you.
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He was very, very shy about stuff.
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I said, I tried to take your whole act.
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I mean, the thing that he presented was a Shakespearean
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actor is pushed out on the stage with no material.
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And that was the brilliant conceit.
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And he s just wandering around, and I don t know what I m doing, and he picks up his braid.
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For those of you going, I said, this is a Frisbee.
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And so that was his genius.
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So I think those Steve Martin and Robin at that time, for me, the rhythm of Steve, excuse me.
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The freedom of Steve.
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His freedom on stage is still stunning to watch.
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We ll talk about a performer expressing joy.
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The character, the happy idiot.
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So likable, yeah.
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But a very calculated joy.
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Meticulous.
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Meticulously calculated to be funny
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Slash dumb.
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It s gotta be funny.
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Dumb.
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It s very hard to do.
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Yes.
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And it s a recipe.
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The acting of it.
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Cause he, we were talking with him and he goes, we ve talked about the excuse me.
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And he goes, Oh, it s just a catch phrase.
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But I go, no, no, no.
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I saw you do it at the boarding house.
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You say, can I get a blue spot?
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Can I get a blue spot?
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And you work your way to that, excuse me, just ask for a blue spot.
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That s the brilliant thing.
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You think it s an actual screw up.
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When I was listening to an album and I m sitting there riveted and he goes,
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Can I get a blue spot for this?
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And then he waits and he goes, blue spot?
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And then he goes, red or blue?
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It doesn t matter.
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And then he keeps inching up and then he stops playing and he goes, you know what s funny?
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I come here, I get up, I write jokes.
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He does a whole fucking set up.
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And you think so, I m like, someone actually fucked up.
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And it made the album, that s what I thought.
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If you asked me to name your Mount Rushmore, I think I could spend an hour and I wouldn t get it.
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I could not guess your comedy
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stand up taste.
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But the audience and I are dying to hear it.
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We want to hear your- You can go.
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I have one more I m going to talk about.
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You can t add any more.
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It s on more people.
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That s the game.
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But Jerry, it s the best guy.
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For me, on talk shows, the best guy ever.
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Rickles.
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Rickles.
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Rickles.
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Okay, I had to say it.
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Yeah.
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The Rickles and Rodney, interestingly, no one ever talked about it and probably shouldn t.
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The two most exciting guys on The Tonight Show.
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Tough to do an hour for both of them.
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Tough style for an hour.
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That s why he had the band, Rickles.
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The genius of him, no joke.
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It was so dry.
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As a kid, it just made me laugh.
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He d be out there with Johnny and Ed.
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Ed doesn t know the show style.
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Ed s in the corner, give him a cookie, pack him in ice.
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There s no real joke.
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It s just all rhythm and attitude.
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Oh yes, those are jokes.
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Those are jokes.
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Give him a cookie.
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Pack him in ice.
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They sound like jokes.
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Who cares?
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Yeah, before you can answer.
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So you know what?
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And I just want to answer because those guys were 100 meter sprinters.
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They were sprinters.
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And then other comedians are long distance, middle distance guys.
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Bob Newhart.
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Bob Newhart, long distance runner.
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So
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That s hard, I couldn t even do it.
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Come on, you gotta give it a shot.
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We ran out of time.
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You can start with Jerry if you want.
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No, no, no.
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I don t know, I know I probably, because it changes over the years, that s why I was asking you yours, because you ve seen so many since Rickles that has anyone even put up a fight?
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That s a different question, but the question is to you first.
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Mine would be,
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God dang, I never even thought of it.
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I know Steve Martin.
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I know Steve Martin for sure because I listen to his albums so much.
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Fryer?
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Fryer, we had his eight tracks.
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If I have to have a black guy in there.
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You do.
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You do.
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You gotta have one.
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He s out of four?
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If you want to keep doing the show.
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Yeah, that s Long Beach.
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That s his special in Long Beach.
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Long Beach.
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Yeah, that is.
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Yeah.
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Is that what it was or sunset?
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Well, he walks out.
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Well, Long Beach is where he walks out.
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The crowd is still coming in.
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They re still coming in.
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He s opening up for Gladys Knight or something.
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Didn t he open for someone?
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He s doing it.
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No, it was Patti LaBelle.
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Yeah, he opened it.
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He s filming a special.
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They said he was opening for someone.
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Is that possible?
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No, no, no.
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Patti LaBelle opened the show.
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That sounded crazier.
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Okay.
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But that, yeah.
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Yeah, crazy.
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So he walks out, is what you re saying?
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He walks out when they don t even introduce me.
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Yeah, there s no introduction and the crowd s still coming in and talking.
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I love it.
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That s so awesome.
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See, you gotta shut the fuck up or I can t assist you with my gag.
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Sorry, that s my best retort.
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I think that was Cosby.
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Just because, would you like a little pill?
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Come on, David.
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I mean, I m gonna go back early like you did, because that s what s shaping.
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I would maybe put Carlin, because I did go see him even at the Celebrity Theater in Arizona when I was 14.
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What about Sam?
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Sam Kennison?
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Yeah.
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What about Bernie Mac?
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Bernie Mac, Sam.
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I didn t see much of Bernie Mac.
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When I wanna laugh, and I m just, you know, that s who I YouTube those guys.
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Kennison in his prime.
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Get out of the desert.
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Go to where the food is.
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Yeah, go with the food and I saw him at Finney Bones You might remember Finney Bones in Arizona and I would get be an emcee same thing Drove him to his condo had me go get him beer and do all that and then he had a pile of coke and he said You want some and I go no and he goes.
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Okay, you can stay
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And he was with Robert Townsend.
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And Robert Townsend said, he didn t want any part of that.
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So he goes, can you run me to my room?
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So I drove him to his hotel and thirstily came back to hang out with Kinnison, because I loved him so much.
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And I did want to do Coke.
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And I didn t want to do his, because I didn t want to look like a mooch.
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One of my favorite Kinnison lines is from a movie, the Rodney movie.
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What is it called?
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Back to School?
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Back to School.
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When he asks about why we went to Vietnam.
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And he goes, is she right?
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before he goes into the ring, you know?
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Is she right?
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Holding the rage?
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You know, okay, I thought of, I thought, Kinnison, when you said that, and I go, I don t know, there s too many people to think of, but Kinnison, I had to say was- It s not really fair.
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It really shocked me, Kinnison, and I was like, fuck, when you see people that really put you on your heels, like, and you go, fuck, that s new, that s a new angle, that s new, but there are comics, and I ll say that I think we re all pretty good at,
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You can see, you don t need an hour.
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You can see one joke and you say, it might be a fluke if it s good.
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And if you see another good one, you go, okay, he s good.
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That s right.
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Do you guys remember the Westwood Comedy Store?
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I was there like a Tuesday night at midnight, maybe eight, 10 people.
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First guy comes up dressed like Elvis, you know, and he s kind of going around like that and he goes with the cigarette Yeah, yeah, you know dice dice.
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I m gonna get you, you know, and he was so electric So fuck then Kennison came up all in the same show He goes there is no God and he took his beret off and he was bald.
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There s no God And he got a guy so frenzied the guy got up and took his pants down.
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Oh
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It was just like, I never really liked it.
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So I tried to get him to do work.
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I couldn t get him work because I went back to San Francisco.
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And they go, what has he done?
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Who is he?
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Well, you ll find out.
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I also love Pablo Francisco.
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Do you know him?
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All about him.
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Absolutely.
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I love that guy.
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See, now that s the kind of guy I don t see anymore.
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Sam, same energy.
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Remember those, there was guys that, they re crazy.
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Altman.
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I miss those guys.
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I feel like we don t see a lot of that.
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Kind of that energy.
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Madness.
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Madness.
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Barely under control.
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You don t know what s coming.
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Pablo, did he later on do a thing where he played a video game character with music and lights and he s walking around like a... Who?
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Pablo.
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Oh yeah.
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Pablo does a lot of techno club.
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I watch him all the time.
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all the time just because I want to laugh.
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Altman, Bernie, Bernie Mac.
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I love watching Sam s first Letterman and then I ll watch the second one because I like the first one he was nervous and the second one he knew this shtick works, this character works.
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He had the long coat and I love the way he took the mic.
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Nobody
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took the mic on a stand on Letterman in those days.
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He handed it to you.
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Yeah, or you used the boom, which was so weak.
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I was on a Tonight Show with Carson, and Sam was out there doing his thing, and then he starts to do something you re not supposed to do, I guess.
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It was kind of X-rated, and Johnny s an X-man.
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He s going, oh, sham.
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Oh, sham.
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To himself.
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Oh, sham.
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No.
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No, don t, Sam.
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Don t you think he s fucking up, Dana?
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Really?
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No, I didn t say that.
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But I was there.
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Carson said, no, Sam.
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Oh, Sam.
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He s out there.
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Just how great was Carson?
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He really did love comics.
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Yeah.
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You know, for all his other political structures that he
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put comics through, they created the hierarchical structure to, I don t know why.
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Jim McCauley, is that who you re talking about?
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No, I m sure it was, maybe it was Fred DeCordova.
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You don t sit down until you re approved.
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You don t just come out and not do stand-up until you re approved.
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It was a hierarchy that they built, even though we were the best part of the show.
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Yeah, people wait for that stand-up.
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Do you remember your first set?
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Well, I don t remember this.
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Did you get called over?
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No, but he called me back out.
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I walked behind the curtain and he made me come back out and take a bow.
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You killed that hard?
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No, I didn t.
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But he liked it.
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I was not happy with it.
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I thought it was good, but everybody was killing it.
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And I didn t know in those days that if I don t have a mic in my hand, I can t do it.
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My thing doesn t work.
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Oh, did you use the boom?
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I used the boom, and I can t do it.
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It s so different.
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I can t make my stuff work with a boom.
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Well, you don t have any dynamic without a mic, because then you can go a little bit closer.
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Right, you have no vocal dynamics, and you can t move
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Yeah.
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Uh, physically.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you re so used to every set you re doing is practicing like this and you walk out in the one that matters and you re like, well, what am I doing?
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What do I do with my hands?
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So what are you excited about doing David in the near term?
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Okay.
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That s a good one.
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Um, I, uh, I think, uh, movies are hard, but I like them if, if I like to do them.
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So, uh, what do you like about it?
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I think I like when they come out.
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When they re done.
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You like when they come out?
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Yeah, the process, the kind of, you know, sometimes they re fun to do and then it s fun.
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But if you re just doing it for the money, which I ve done in the past, if you re doing it, you don t love it, that s brutal.
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Amazing that you would admit that.
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But you can tell which ones.
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But when you get one that s like the wrong Missy that does well, that becomes worldwide, and then Ted calls, then you feel like, oh, one worked.
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And I really like when,
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a comedy works and you go oh it actually worked the whole way because the interesting thing was reading it and it s funny and it gets funnier and doing scenes about halfway through I go
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Wait, we still have these scenes to do that are supposed to be pretty funny if it works?
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This actually might be good.
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And you never know.
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Something interesting about movies is no one has it solved.
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No one has it cracked.
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Or they just make good movies.
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You cannot fucking.
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If you go over to 100 movies, AFI, and you re looking to watch a movie.
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God.
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Or even like best science fiction.
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There s like 10 good science fiction movies.
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I mean, obviously, comedy s our category.
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Greatest comedies ever made.
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Or movies that we think are what we would call great comedic movies.
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That is a short list.
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Right.
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What I was going to say in terms of the stand-up.
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You say yours and I ll agree.
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Our first exposure, Jerry, to funniness was probably Abbott and Costello meets Frankenstein.
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And Jerry Lewis movies.
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Meets Frankenstein.
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Loves all the Jerry Lewis movies.
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Yeah, I remember those being big.
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So the fun of movies are like, you re making this movie, and then you think of- Oh, you re like those guys?
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Well, you re just, you re trying to do something like they did.
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It s almost impossible, and they didn t make every movie that was great.
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No.
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Abbott and Costello goes to Mars, it s terrible.
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The trick is you have to meet Frankenstein.
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Those guys aren t, their movies are not great.
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If you wanted to show an alien how funny Laurel and Hardy was, you re not gonna show them the features.
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You re gonna show them the shorts.
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Well, here s, I have a, okay, I won t say this question.
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How do you feel, because someone was on the podcast recently, and it was Michael Keaton, and said, as a kid, he didn t really get the Three Stooges, you know, and now he loves them.
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No, not a fan.
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That was Michael Keaton.
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But I watched anyway because of Curly.
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Curly was so gifted, such a genius.
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The other two, especially Moe, you re not funny.
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Well, they were in their early 60s when they started.
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Moe would try to get them back on track though, when things are going wrong, which is a lot of the time.
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What s a great comedy film to you?
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Yeah, go.
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You have five seconds.
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I am not in any way comparing what I did in any way, shape, or form.
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I watched Blazing Saddles the other day and I felt like, oh, I m in this universe.
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I m in this universe.
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The reality tone of this one is in that universe.
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Mel Brooks having a GOV on the back of the jacket.
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The big band in the desert.
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Things that we know are not really happening.
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But we like- Punches the horse.
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That was incredible.
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Knocks out the horse.
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Wow, I would probably have to go Marx Brothers.
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I think the Marx Brothers, their pacing today is still quick.
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In the way they work.
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Because they worked it out on the road.
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The pacing, the complexity of the bits, the physical bits with dialogue.
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So I would pick one of theirs.
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There s a few, of course, that are great.
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What about something like Airplane that s sort of crazy?
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Airplane, absolutely, absolutely.
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You know, Manhattan, Woody.
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You know, I don t think, it is funny, I don t know, is Midnight in Paris is, I think, a great Woody Allen movie.
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Great.
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And funny.
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Great, absolutely great.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Can you, do you fight?
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Yeah.
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You know, the guy who played him?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, Owen Wilson was the perfect surrogate voice for Woody.
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Yeah.
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Incidentally, because Woody s like, Jim, shoot.
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No, you re a terrific woman.
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I was just wondering if you maybe want to go to a museum today.
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Was he in the Seinfeld?
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No, that Seinfeld sketch, not the Woody Allen.
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What sketch?
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We did a Woody Allen sketch.
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Oh really?
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We did one.
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It was with Jason.
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The one I saw the day, today you played the game show host with me and Schneider and Sandler.
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Stand up and win.
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Yeah, stand up and win.
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That s a huge one.
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That was funny.
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The way you played the host was very funny.
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How about when you re the teacher?
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Okay, the energy s waning, guys.
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I know, where is it?
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When you play the teacher and we re all in the audience.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And you go, what s the capital of... And Farley goes like this, and you go, it s not Germany.
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He goes... He puts his hand down.
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I think it was me, Sandler, Farley.
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I like seeing that it showed up and I was like, oh, it s so fun to see old ones, it s like a group of everybody.
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And it s funny, and you were there, and it s funny.
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Okay, that s it.
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I gotta go, Jerry.
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Um, I got to wrap this up.
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I got a million things going.
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So Jerry Seinfeld What s what s next?
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You ve just done any money you re gonna kiss remember when you modeled that I did yeah, a lot of people like that how do you do with the reviews cuz I
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I love bad reviews.
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I love them.
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You love bad reviews?
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Yes.
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Why wouldn t you hate it?
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Of course.
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I didn t make it for you, particularly.
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I made a movie that bombed in 1988.
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It s called Opportunity Knocks.
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I remember Opportunity Knocks.
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I m casually talking to Bill Murray.
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I didn t hear it when it was the best movie list.
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It s a Wednesday.
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The movie s coming out Friday.
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Bill Murray very seriously says to me,
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Can you get out of the country?
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I mean, could you go to the woods?
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I mean, he s assuming the reviews will literally destroy me.
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Really?
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Any way you could hike somewhere and just be away from all our drawings?
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But yeah, I got some bad ones.
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Yeah, but as comedians, it s not fair.
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because we have Iron Man suits that we wear in show business, which this was the biggest thing that I experienced doing this movie, is seeing the lives of these actors and how different it is from our lives.
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They are- A lot of waiting.
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To have a house like this, like you have, they re sweating out each gig, this, I have to kill in this, this has to work, or things could- Or that s it, yeah.
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Or there could be a downturn.
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You and I, we don t think like that.
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Yes, we want our stuff to work, but you ve got this metal Iron Man suit that nobody can get off of you.
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You can go out and work.
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You can go out and work whenever you want.
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It was revolutionary to John Lovitz when I convinced him to try it.
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How s he doing with it?
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He loves it.
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Because the movies are, they edit, they cut my part all out.
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Then he goes, he goes, I go to the club.
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They go, here s your dressing room.
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There s the stage.
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I do my time and they give me a check.
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You could not believe the arithmetic thing that stand up is.
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It s kind of the most interesting thing about our careers is we lived through what it was at the beginning to what it is now.
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It changed underneath us.
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Yes.
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And I give Ted Serrano a tremendous amount of credit for this.
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He, he changed who comedians are in the culture.
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He changed it.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I went on Burt Kreisner s podcast, he goes, I m playing Berlin tomorrow night.
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Wow.
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You know, these Netflix specials are global.
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Yeah.
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You know, hundreds of millions of people.
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Yeah, God bless America.
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All right, my final thing, what are you going to do the rest of the day?
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You re going to go meditate to get energy.
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I ll go meditate and I ll just
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I got to come up with a weekend update.
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I m doing weekend update.
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Oh, this weekend?
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I need a bit.
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I don t have a bit.
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You don t have a bit?
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You re booked?
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I won t do it if we don t.
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I m going to call Colin Jost and we re going to try and come up with a bit.
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Right.
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They ve invited me.
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I mean, I have to do it because when your movie comes out and you re on SNL, you re officially the guy of the weekend.
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You want to be the guy of the weekend, right?
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You absolutely should.
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I m just starting to think of what you could do.
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Did you see the bit I did where the president of Pop-Tarts calls me into the boardroom
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Kelvin, Kelvin P. Gasworth.
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Yes.
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I mean, was that in the actor?
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No, that was just a promotional bit.
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Oh, I saw it.
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Yeah.
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Did you like it?
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It s not with the guy, Jeff, where the guy says, how do you feel?
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Yeah, I know.
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How do you feel?
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People just take your stuff and do whatever they want.
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I go, you mean like friends?
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I didn t say I like because he goes, I m going to take your stuff.
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Yeah.
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Friends, the sitcom took stuff from Seinfeld.
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Well,
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We got our trender, that s all we needed, Jerry.
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That s gonna go all over the world.
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I saw that promo, and you need that.
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That stuff s floating around on Instagram.
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So what do you do on there?
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Anything in the news lately?
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Anything non-protesty that s in the news lately?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right, I ll hit you with some stuff later.
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I don t want to sit in front of you.
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Okay, how does that stuff get written on the show?
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You mean the update stuff?
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Yeah, update gags.
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You want to have somebody on just to do an update.
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Yeah, usually it starts right after probably the read-through on Wednesday.
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You would go to the update guy at the time, Herb Sargent, when I was there.
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I m thinking of doing an update thing.
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It just gets in the ether.
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But if they say, we have Seinfeld this week, they might even say it earlier in the week.
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But if the writers are freed up after they wrote their sketches, they go, everybody, let s brainstorm.
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and we ll come to him with three ideas.
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Okay, so I should say to them, see what you can cook up.
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If you could have Hugh Grant, you re doing something and then Hugh Grant comes in, probably can t get him.
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He s in London now.
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But he also was incredibly funny.
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I love Hugh Grant.
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Yeah, it s just something about that accent.
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He s what men used to be.
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The hard drinking, fun, just yeah.
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Collar open, broad shoulders, everything I wanted.
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Broad shoulders.
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He s got really nice shoulders.
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He does.
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He looked good when he had the horns on.
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Yeah.
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Comedians... You know, Nate Bargatze has good shoulders.
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Almost no comedians have good shoulders.
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Can you name one?
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I can t think.
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I was thinking about this the other night.
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Sandler?
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I don t know.
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Sandler had good shoulders when he was younger.
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Younger, but now not so good.
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Yeah, not anymore.
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There s our second rude.
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Rude.
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You really noticed shoulders.
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That s your update bit.
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Okay.
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Colin, little shoulders.
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Jay, shoulders.
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Yeah.
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Jay had them.
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I never had them.
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Jay had them.
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I never had them.
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Yeah.
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Comedian shoulders.
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Jay was scared.
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Then you show clips.
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Jay had Jewish shoulders.
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Jewish shoulders.
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Here s this comic.
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There s your bit.
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Shoulders, seven out of 10.
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Here s this comic.
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I know you ve probably already done this at home, but I m gonna go through it with you guys.
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And then we d say, who s got weak shoulders?
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And you ll never work on them.
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It s the relationship between the shoulder and the hip.
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Because if you have shoulders, what else do you need when you re young?
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If you have really good shoulders, everyone s gonna like you.
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Right, yeah.
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Everyone s checking their shoulders.
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You re gonna get gigs, you re gonna get free food.
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People love big shoulder guys.
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Little shoulders, not so much.
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Rickles, surprisingly, I saw him once with his shirt off.
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Jack shoulders.
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He has a solo flex in his dressing room.
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Deesh.
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A deesh.
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I gotta pee.
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That s enough.
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Good night.
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We did a good job.
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That was fun.
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That was as good as we thought it would be.
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It is.
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It s great.
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This has been a presentation of Odyssey.
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Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss, Berman of Odyssey, Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment, and Heather Santoro.
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The show s lead producer is Greg Holtzman.