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 a recent scientific sort of revolution into this process called autophagy, which has been, you know, very, very topical, people have been going crazy on it, because in 2016, one of the Nobel Prizes in medicine was awarded to one of the early researchers.
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And what it showed is that when you fast,
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 And you turn down these nutrient sensors, then your body actually starts to activate a process called autophagy.
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And autophagy is where your body breaks down these sort of subcellular organelles and just gets rid of them, right?
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It breaks it down and recycles them.
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 and everybody thinks well if you're breaking down stuff that's bad for you right you're breaking down protein it's bad for you it's good for you because the first thing you need to do whenever you uh want to renovate for example say you want to renovate your bathroom the first thing you got to do is throw out everything in there right that avocado green tub has to go otherwise you can't put in a new tub right it's just the way it is that's just uh so your body works the same way the first
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 The thing you have to do is get rid of the old, junky, old protein.
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You gotta break it down.
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You gotta kill off those cells.
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You gotta rip them off the body and let them, whatever.
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The stuff you don't need.
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Where they flush out your skin or whatever they do, right?
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Exactly.
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The skin proteins, the connective tissue, all of that goes.
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And it's not like the body knows what it needs and doesn't need.
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What happens is that everything starts to go and then the stuff you need, like if you're still exercising, your body's like, hey, I still need those muscles.
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I'm gonna rebuild that.
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 So that's the key that one of the things that activates during fasting is actually growth hormone.
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So if you fast for 24 hours, your growth hormone level is like four times what it is when you're eating.
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Yeah.
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And it sounds very strange.
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Why would growth hormone goes up?
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Well, it's because of this whole process where you want to break down stuff, as soon as you start to eat it, you want to rebuild all of it.
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So the Nobel Prize in medicine, which is
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 Dr. Osuni said, this is the body's intracellular recycling system.
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So it's not let's flush out all our old stuff.
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It's not flush it out and rebuild into new stuff.
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But if you think about it, that's incredibly powerful, because that's the whole process of rejuvenation, right?
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Get rid of the old stuff, bring in new stuff.
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It's like renovating your body, right?
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So all the cells in your body undergo this process of regeneration that you're not going to get if you are eating all the time.
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 So this is this whole, you know, in people who are very interested in wellness, a lot of people are looking into this autophagy and so on.
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And you get this this point where you're doing, you know, so you've done these longer fasts.
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It's like, wow, this is you just feel really good about yourself.
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You know, you're you're full of energy.
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Right.
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And this is the thing that I thought very strange when I did my first sort of three or four day fast is like,
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 I have a ton of energy, like I could feel like I could do anything.
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My friend who used to work, he's a doctor, and he worked a lot of nights and stuff, he said, it felt like my brain was like on fire.
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Like I thought I could do anything and everything faster than I could and better than I could ever do it before.
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Interestingly, another friend of mine who's a cardiologist, so he's a heart specialist, he says, you know, I used to,
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 he played piano for his whole life.
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And he says, there's always this piece that I couldn't play.
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And then as soon as I started fasting, I noticed that I could start to do.
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Wow, that's incredible.
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Right.
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And the doctors, when I talked to the doctors, they actually instantly see the logic of what I'm talking about, because they know the physiology, what happens in the human body, because what I'm talking about, which is what all the stuff we know about medical physiology,
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 is in contrast to all this stuff that people tell you about fasting, which is so you can't do it, and it's dangerous, and it's really bad for you.
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Whereas the opposite is true, right?
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It's actually part of a natural cycle, right?
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It's feeding and fasting, feeding and fasting, right?
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You don't feed all the time, you don't fast all the time.
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But we've gone so far into that one thing.
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 So yeah, I mean, this whole point of autophagy is very, very interesting and very topical.
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If you look at studies of longevity, for example, in animals, the only thing that really makes people, makes animals in the lab live longer is caloric restriction.
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And so even almost 100 years ago, people were talking about it and saying, well,
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 can try and restrict your calories.
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But if you do that day after day after day, it's really hard.
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So fasting may be a better way to go, which is something they figured out sort of ages ago.
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Because if you look back, that's how people thought of fasting, that people called it a cleanse, detoxification, you know, reawakening, spiritual, you know, purification, that kind of thing.
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 There's this whole sense of rebirth and something super healthy for you, which got turned in the 80s into something really bad for you.
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It's strange how things work, but without any sort of scientific evidence, and as we become as a nation more overweight, it becomes even more important.
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 And that's just one of these sort of fascinating things.
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So, you know, it's not like something I just made up.
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It's like literally the oldest dietary intervention.
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 in the books, right?
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I'm just rediscovering this and trying to tell people, hey, there's a lot of good medical science that tells you this is actually something that is applicable to what we're seeing today in our health care.
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And you can do something like you don't need your doctor, you don't need your dietician, you can do something about it right now for no money.
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 Right.
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And there's the sciences all there.
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Right.
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Imagine how much money you can save as a society if we got rid of this problem.
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And it's like, oh, my God, like it's mind blowing.
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Well, I think that's part of the issue is the reason it's not popular, I guess, is because businesses make a lot of money on medicine.
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Businesses make a lot of money on selling more food, not selling less food.
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 And therefore people want to make more money.
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And so they have to market their products.
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They have to market their medicines.
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They have to market their foods to try to sell more of it, not to say, Oh, just have a few of these, just have a couple of cookies a day.
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No, they want to sell boxes of cookies, right?
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It's not like they got to make money as in their mind.
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This is a business to be run and we need to sell more.
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More means more people need to eat.
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 sugar, refined sugar, breads, refined oils, refined meats, refined fats, all these things you said that are horrible for us to eat, the company is making them in order for them to survive financially, they need to sell more of these things to us.
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 It's a real problem, because if you look at, say, the doctors and the dieticians, you go to conferences, they're sponsored by Kellogg's and the breakfast makers and so on.
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It's crazy.
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I was watching this show the other day, one of these TLC shows with these very heavy women.
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Anyway, they're trying to lose weight, and they're taking these protein shakes.
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 And they couldn't drink it.
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It was horrible stuff.
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They tasted really bad.
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So they spit it out.
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I'm thinking, somebody is just trying to make a buck on you, because you should just drink water, let your body use the fat and use the protein from your own body.
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Why would you want to drink two of these protein shakes a day, except that somebody wants to sell it to you, right?
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You're being played here.
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 you're drinking this horrible, horrible tasting stuff and they're spitting it out.
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They couldn't take it.
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It's like, oh, this, the whole thing is so sad because it's like, if you knew you could simply take nothing at all and be far healthier and save yourself a lot of money.
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It's, it's a sad, sad sort of state of affairs that we get into.
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 What would you say are the top four or five benefits of fasting?
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Then if we had to recap that part of it, what would you say are the top five?
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I'm hearing it's free.
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Yeah, so it's free.
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That's a huge thing.
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It's it you really you can add it to any diet, because remember that it does not tell you what to eat when you're eating.
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It only tells you what the period of time that you're not eating.
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 So whether you're a vegetarian or carnivore or paleo or keto or whatever you want to be, even if you want to eat fast food all day, it doesn't tell you you can't eat fast food.
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It tells you that during this period of time, don't eat.
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So you can add it to any diet, which is incredible because now we're pulling on a completely different lever.
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That is, if you think about weight loss and nutrition in general, there's two levers, right?
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We always think of the what you're eating, right?
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Eat more vegetables.
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That's great.
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 But what if you don't like vegetables, right?
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Well, that lever doesn't work, right?
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So here's a completely different lever.
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You're talking about, well, there's this other thing I can do to lose weight or get healthier, right?
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So you can add it to any diet.
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It's completely flexible.
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That is to say, you can do it whenever you want or if you don't want.
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So if it's Christmas and you do not want to fast for these few days, then you don't have to.
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 If they decide to fast longer after Christmas, then sure, you can do that.
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That's completely up to you.
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It's not like you're locked in.
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You know, the fourth thing is that it's very simple.
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So if you look at a lot of diets, that is to say, say you're on a paleo diet,
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 It's a great diet, right?
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But it's like, this is paleo, and this is paleo, and this is not paleo, right?
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It's complex, or keto, or whatever you want to be.
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So it's very difficult for some people to understand, and I've tried to explain sort of these differences, because they'll always get confused, and you always get the, is this keto, or is this paleo, or whatever.
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 Whereas fasting is very simple.
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It's like you can drink water and tea and herbal tea, say.
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That's it.
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Everything else you can't eat, right?
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So it's very simple to explain to somebody.
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It makes it very easy for them to follow because it's very black and white.
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If you ate a peanut, that's not fasting, right?
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Yes, it's not a big deal, but at the same time, that's not fasting.
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 And then the other thing is that it's powerful, right?
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Because if you follow any type of a diet, there's always a natural limit.
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So say you want to lose weight.
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And so you say, I'm going to do a keto diet or a paleo diet or a vegetarian diet.
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So you do a vegetarian diet and you lose a few pounds, but not as much as you want.
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 Well, you can't go more vegetarian than vegetarian.
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Exactly.
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So what else are you going to do?
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There's nowhere else you can go more keto or you can't go more paleo, whereas there's no actual upper limit to what you can do in terms of fasting.
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 And it's powerful because you're eating zero, which means that it is by definition for weight loss, the most powerful diet there is.
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Like absolutely, you cannot lose more than that.
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If you put any calories in your body, no matter what diet you're on, you're not going to lose as much as if you had zero calories.
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 Exactly.
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So that's the whole thing.
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It is the most powerful diet.
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It's the most powerful.
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But it's like, OK, well, why would you not want it?
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Right.
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If you have a lot of work to do, you want the best tool.
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That's it.
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Right.
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This is the best tool.
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And somehow we said, don't ever use this.
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Right.
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It's like, why?
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If you use it, you'll actually get all these other benefits.
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So it's free.
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It's available.
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It's simple.
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 you know, you can do it with any diet, and it's powerful.
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And you actually don't have to stop, you can actually keep going, you can, you know, do a seven day fast and take a little break to another seven day fast.
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And you can't go lower than zero, there's no way it is possible physiologically to go less than zero.
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So it is the most powerful diet.
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So there's so many benefits.
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And yet for for years, I'll tell you when I started using it with with patients in about
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 about seven or eight, seven years ago, maybe it was like the stuff we saw was just incredible.
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People were like coming off their medications.
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They were reversing their type two diabetes or losing weight.
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And it's like, you know, all from this simple intervention that is literally the oldest one in the book.
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 Thank you so much for listening.
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