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Hey, Danas and Beckys, what you re about to hear is an encore presentation of one of our favorite episodes from the Don t Ask Tig archives.
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Please enjoy.
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I have a program on the BBC called Meet David Sedaris.
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They mispronounced my name on my own radio show.
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That happens to me all the time with... I get notero a lot.
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Well, I would call you tignotero.
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You call me tignotero?
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Tignotero, yeah.
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It s just to kind of join the words together and then put the emphasis on the wrong syllables.
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Oh, I like it.
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So, to me, you re tignotero.
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Yeah.
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Well, let s get started.
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Okay.
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This is Don t Ask Tig, I m Tig Notaro.
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Who s asking?
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Here to help me give advice today is David Sedaris.
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He s a very funny writer and fellow public radio personality.
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Maybe one of us is a bigger radio personality than the other, but who s to say, right, David?
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Hi, Tig.
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Hi.
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Actually, I would say I haven t been, gee, I haven t been on NPR in a while.
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I m mainly on the BBC now.
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Well, I feel like anywhere you go, you re kind of the big shot.
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So I m going to hand that over to you.
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All right, David, you and I both have been on This American Life.
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We actually had Ira on this show earlier this year.
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Do you think you ll be giving better advice than Ira Glass did?
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Oh, yeah, I do.
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I think so, too.
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I can tell.
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Your confidence.
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Well, somebody asked me on stage one night, they said, what s the worst advice you ve ever given?
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And I said, I told a woman who was pregnant that she needed to get an abortion.
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And the next day, her husband was killed in a car accident.
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And the audience went, like, made that really sullen sound.
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And it wasn t true.
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And I just, during their like stunned silence, I wondered what it would be like if it was true.
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Gee, that would have been bad advice.
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You know, as a comedian, I don t know how you feel doing live performances, but do you enjoy the, or the aww, or any of that stuff?
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Because as a comedian- I don t like an aww.
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Yeah, that s the worst.
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Like I was on this,
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I had to go on this television program in Chicago.
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I was on a book tour, and so I had to go on this daytime television show.
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And I don t know anything about daytime television.
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It was like a local daytime television show hosted by a wildly attractive man and a woman.
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And they said, so your father is still alive.
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And how old is he?
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And I said, at the time, my father was 95.
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And the audience went, ah.
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And I said, my sisters and I look at him and like, what are you still doing here?
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I was horrified.
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But I just kind of wanted to punish him for making that ah sound.
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Because I think that s the worst, getting that sound.
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It s the absolute worst, but, um, well, I know, I know you re supposed to be on a 45 city, uh, book tour and then the Corona virus obviously took over.
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And, um, I m assuming you ve been in some version of lockdown.
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I mean, I can t do what I would normally do, you know?
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I mean, I went to a warehouse and I signed 12,000 books.
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You know, I mean, that s not, I like a book tour.
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I like going to bookstores and meeting people and all that.
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So I just can t, I hate this.
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And it feels really weird to have a book out and not be out, you know, in support of it.
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I was going to say, I m assuming the 12,000 books were your own books.
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I ve had a fantasy of doing a book signing where I just sit next to a stack of random books and just sign them.
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It takes 20 hours to sign 12,000 books.
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Oh my God.
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The level you have reached as a writer, do you find it difficult to find something new to write about?
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No.
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I mean, I don t imagine you find it hard to find things to talk about.
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I don t, but I do have moments where I think, where s that piece that I ll hopefully write again that will really excite me the way that this old piece did?
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Or I always am scared I m not going to find that again.
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Yeah, I think everybody is.
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Yeah, they re scared of that for me.
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And so with your time that you ve had during the pandemic, is there anything new, interesting or different you ve been doing?
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The only thing, you know, it s been years since I ve spent this much time with Hugh, you know, my boyfriend.
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We just had our 30th anniversary, like a couple weeks ago.
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But I haven t spent this much time with him since probably
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Oh, ever, because I would be leaving and I would be going on tour.
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And so we really haven t had more than a few days away from one another since this all happened.
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And I gotta say, it went a lot better than I thought it would.
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Well, that s nice to hear.
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Yeah, I mean, I like him and everything, but I just worried that we would discover something about one another that we had never seen before and realize that we each made a horrible, horrible mistake, but it didn t happen.
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Now, David, you have gifted me with one of the greatest stories that I get to tell people.
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I was performing in Edinburgh, Scotland,
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maybe five, six, seven years ago, and I got off stage and a woman came up to me and said, David Sedaris is in town, he couldn t make it to your show, but he would like to know if you would meet him for dinner tonight.
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Yeah, and I didn t know who this person was.
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I didn t know if I was being lured somewhere to be murdered.
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And then I took a taxi to the address and I saw you standing outside.
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And I thought, well, be damned, there s David Sedaris.
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And I went inside and had dinner with you.
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Because we both had shows on that week.
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We did.
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But it was a very exciting, flattering moment for me.
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And it is something that when I tell people that story, I can feel how jealous they are.
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Well, the food was good, don t you think?
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It was so good.
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And we had, I think, a five-hour dinner.
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It was long.
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My friend Patsy was there.
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She happened to be in town, so she was there, too.
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Yes.
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Anyway, I wanted to thank you for that, um, that gift where I get to really drop your name and impress people.
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Well, I get to do the same.
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All right, David.
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So are you ready to try and, um, solve some people s problems?
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I sure am.
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All right.
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Question one comes from Barry.
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I suspect my sister-in-law gifted me expired chocolate for my birthday.
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The chocolate was pale whitish-brown dust.
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and the pecans were also disintegrating.
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It s quite possible that it s been sitting around for years.
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I would like to make clear that this isn t about money.
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She can afford to buy a box of chocolates.
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I feel insulted and hurt when I receive items like this.
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In the past, I ve received expired wine from her.
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Frankly, I d rather not receive a gift at all.
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Any advice on how I should handle this?
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Well, I didn t know wine could expire I don t think I knew that either I mean, I thought it just got better But this afternoon we had some somebody come over to the house and we said can we get you anything?
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And he said I ll have some water and I said, oh here there s that water in the refrigerator and he said I think It s in water Oh David you re cutting out
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Can you hear me?
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Let me try this right here.
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Gosh, I m sorry about that.
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It s not a problem.
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Let s see.
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Okay.
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Is this okay?
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Does it sound like a telephone?
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No, I think it s okay that it sounds like a telephone, right?
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You were laughing saying you didn t know wine expired and that Hugh... Oh, I didn t know that wine could expire.
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But then Hugh and I had a guest today
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the guy asked for some water and the people who we bought the apartment for left all this bottled water in the refrigerator.
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And I said, Oh, Hugh, there s that.
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And he said, I think it might ve expired.
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And I just thought that was so silly that anyone would think that water would expire.
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I mean, if it was in a, you know, if it was in a canteen, you know, for a number of years, I could see how it might have a sour taste to it.
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But I think that this water was just fine.
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It s really, really hard to tell somebody
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you don t like their gifts.
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But at the same time, most of the people I know who hate Christmas, the problem is that they never set anyone straight, right?
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Like when I got together with Hugh, I said to him right away, let me tell you why this is not an acceptable gift.
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You know, uh, you know, it, the buttons are hidden on this shirt.
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I don t like a hidden button or the collar s too big or the collar stands too high.
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Or it s like, yes, I like taxidermy, but I have standards.
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So I get really, really great gifts.
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But this is a little bit tricky because you can t tell your sister-in-law that you d rather just not get her crummy gifts.
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I think what you need to do is just go tit for tat, really, and give her expired things as well.
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You know, like prop old cans of Hawaiian punch, you know, from like 1972 or pineapple in a can that s expired.
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That would taste pretty bad.
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You could also take food off the table.
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I mean, that could just, you could, like how you re saying the directness that you used with Hugh about buttons and shirt collars, you could say that you re not interested in food, but thank you.
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Well, then she s just going to give you a candle
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that the sun melted and it s oh yeah where the wick won t you can t be you have to dig the wick out of there that s true i m so curious what barry s sister-in-law what her financial situation is because when he says that it s it has nothing to do with money i almost wonder if this person is potentially even wealthy i bet she has a gift closet and she goes to the gift closet
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and you know I have a gift closet and it s things it s a lot of things sometimes I just see something and I just buy it and I think I ll figure out who to give it to later or sometimes people give me a gift and it s nice and everything it s just not necessarily me right so I put that in my gift closet as well so probably the sister-in-law has a gift closet she just reaches in there she says ah chocolate fine and
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She doesn t know that it was like the Say-Rose chocolate or doesn t care, doesn t check to see.
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Obviously, he doesn t mean that much to her.
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Right.
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That s what her gifts say.
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Barry, I hope your holiday season is full of non-expired chocolate.
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More questions after the break.
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a six billion dollar con.
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It didn t take long for it to spread like wildfire.
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You got to take a look at this really crazy gold stock.
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A buddy of mine got in at a dime.
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Which destroyed lives and devastated communities.
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Every little town across the nation, people have shares in this.
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We lost everything.
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And to date, no one has been brought to justice.
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Somebody knows more than we know.
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The $6 billion gold scam from the BBC World Service and CBC.
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Search for the $6 billion gold scam wherever you get your podcasts.
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David, our next question is what I call Hoo-Boy.
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Hoo-Boy.
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That means it s a difficult one.
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You think you can hang with this?
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Sure.
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All right.
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Susanna writes, my son is 12 and still believes in Santa.
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Last year, I thought middle school would straighten him out, but alas, then distant learning happened.
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Should I tell my son the truth or keep the dream alive?
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I met a woman at a book signing.
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Her godmother, when her godmother was young,
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Her family convinced her that if she was naked, she was invisible.
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You know, when she was a very little girl.
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And so they would be sitting in the kitchen and she would walk into the kitchen naked and climb up on the kitchen counter and get into the candy.
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Or she would come into the kitchen naked and pull a chair up to the refrigerator and start drinking Coke.
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And everybody went along with it.
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Nobody said anything.
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And that, to me, is such a charming story.
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And I love to imagine her as a teenager, you know, walking down the front steps of the house and outside naked, you know, sneaking out with her friends, except feeling like she didn t have to sneak.
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I wouldn t tell your son that Santa doesn t exist.
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I mean, I think that s beautiful that he s 12 and still believes in Santa.
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Yeah, there doesn t seem to be a real pressing reason to get in there.
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I mean, other than, you know, being concerned about bullying or something, but if that hasn t happened, it doesn t seem to be something to worry about.
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What, are you in junior high by 12 years old?
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I think if you re in junior high school and you think, I m gonna ask Santa for a skateboard, I think your friends just assume
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that you re being ironic.
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So I wouldn t even worry about it in a bullying way.
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I think that s a beautiful thing, and I don t think she should touch it.
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And that s damn good advice.
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And what about you, David?
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Did you ever believe in Santa, or was there a moment that you realized there was no Santa?
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Yeah, no, I believed in Santa, and I don t remember the moment that it occurred to me
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that he didn t exist, but it wasn t traumatizing.
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I was in high school watching Psycho for the first time, and my sister Lisa came into the room and said, it s him dressed as his mother the whole time.
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I couldn t believe it.
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That was shattering to me, but the Santa thing, I could deal with.
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That s hilarious.
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She was so horrible when she was younger.
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Well, Susanna, all will be fine.
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David, the next question is, it s a corona conundrum.
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Are you at all concerned about the coronavirus?
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No, not really.
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We know that mandatory masking works.
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You literally cannot mandate somebody to wear a mask.
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You must not leave the house for any reason.
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Unless, of course, you have a reason, and then you may leave the house.
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Bex asks, I finally started to reach huge career milestones when I conducted a Broadway musical in New York City last year.
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Now I ve been unemployed since March and Broadway will remain closed possibly for another year because of the virus.
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I feel sad most days and feel like I m grieving while I can t work perform and support myself How do I keep myself hopeful for a future?
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That is no doubt what so many people are experiencing So that s a hard thing conducting right like so that s something you can t just do when you re living
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living room, right?
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But you know what, and I know this sounds really phony, but nothing feels better than helping people.
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I mean, if you re depressed, I feel like the best way to get out of it is by helping people, you know, by volunteering, by doing something that can improve the life of somebody else.
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And then people are just gonna think you re Christ-like when you talk about it, when you say, you know, I didn t even have the subway fare, so I walked 200 blocks.
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So I could empty someone s colostomy bag.
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I was thinking about this recently, how there s so many comedian friends of mine that are up and coming.
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They re so concerned about how their career was on the brink of something that felt bigger and then the pandemic happened and and so I think that and of course Bex knows this but so many people s lives are on hold and
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And you can only assume that once it gets going again, that it will likely pick up in a very similar way that it left off because nobody s getting ahead of you.
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Everybody s just frozen in time to some degree.
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But I feel like if I can give some out there advice, what I would want to do, or maybe
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could see myself doing.
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I have no idea what Bex s personality is like, but I could see myself, especially since you re in New York City, go on a rooftop somewhere and bring your record player up there, your boom box, and blare your music and conduct just the city of New York.
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I have no idea what your setup is, but that would be a fun thing, I think,
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in these times.
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Does that seem insane to you, David?
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On mushrooms.
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On mushrooms.
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Yeah, I don t think it s gonna make sense without the mushrooms.
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I ve never done mushrooms.
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But you know, so many people, oh, really?
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No.
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Oh, you must.
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Oh, yeah, you gotta try it.
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And you just have to be in nature and plan for it and go to a beautiful spot in nature.
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It just changes everything.
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But so many people, I ve heard so many people say, people will never go to theaters again, those days are over.
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People will never fill a restaurant again, those days are over.
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I don t believe that for one second.
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I think the moment people are allowed to go back to what they were doing before, they ll do it.
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People are already doing it.
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Even before they re allowed to go back, they re doing it.
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Yeah.
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But I agree, no one s going to jump ahead of you.
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But I feel awful for that person.
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You know, that s I just feel awful for people like that.
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You know, they just got a part in a Broadway show.
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Gosh, my heart really goes out to to that person.
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But the thing is, when you help people and see them, OK, you help people, but then you ve got to get somebody else to tell everybody that you help people, because when you tell them yourself, then it doesn t sound good.
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And it kind of takes away the glory of it.
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So you ve got to get somebody else to say that.
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David, I can t believe it.
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You know, here he s got so little time, but what little time he does.
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I saw him give a sack of gold to a harp player.
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Because you kind of need everybody to know, or it s like a tree falling in the forest.
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Well, why don t we offer to be that for Bex?
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Tig and David will make sure to spread the news.
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If you keep in touch with us, Bex, let us know about your rooftop musical or symphony, whatever you re conducting, and also the good that you do and the gold that you distribute.
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And David Sedaris and myself will definitely put the word out that you ve been doing good.
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You know how in America you would say, oh, stop blowing your own horn.
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In England, they say, I can t get him to blow his own trumpet.
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I like that better, blow your own trumpet.
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Well, yeah, that s the perfect case of telephone, right?
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It starts out, blow your own trumpet, and then it gets to the States and it s blow your own horn.
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Well, I heard somebody also, I heard somebody say, gee, you can t say anything anymore.
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You know, everyone s walking on potato chips and I like that so much better than walking on eggshells.
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I just immediately picture the potato chips still in the bag and a big pop when you step on them.
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But Bex, hang in there.
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I have faith in Bex.
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I think he s going to come out of it, and I also think that the world is going to wait for Bex.
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David, our next question is about defining the relationship.
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This is from Viv.
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I m a 56 year old widow.
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I am now in a new relationship with a 54 year old man named Kevin.
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My question is, how do I introduce him?
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Boyfriend is ridiculous at our age.
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Significant other is pompous.
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My mother s suggestion is gentleman friend, but she s 92 years old.
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I don t know.
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I m a firm believer in boyfriend.
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I don t, you know, I m, I still say it.
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And I know all these well-meaning people want to say partner, you know, like they heard somebody say partner.
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And so then they think, Oh, that s the thing to do.
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Like, like, I don t know how you feel about this, but you know, we re queer now and I m not, I mean, I m not queer.
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I m gay.
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And but everybody, but now you re supposed to say queer.
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And so people say queer because they think, you know, they re well-meaning people and they re trying to say the right thing.
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And so, and it s like, no one ever asked me, right?
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Well, somebody asked me on a flight.
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I was, this was the craziest, and I know they meant well, but, um,
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I was sitting there and the flight attendant came up and asked what pronoun I would like.
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And I was a little thrown off and I just said, oh, she, her?
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And I said, but also, why aren t you asking everybody else on this flight?
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It was, it was so uncomfortable.
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And it was, it was a moment of not making an assumption, but making an assumption.
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But well-meaning people, someone told them, and so they think, okay, this is what we should be doing now.
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And so I d say boyfriend.
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And I don t care how old I am.
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I like boyfriend because I think that, you know, when you see two, not that these people are in their nineties, they re 56 and 54.
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But when I see a, a couple in their eighties or nineties and they say boyfriend and girlfriend, I love that.
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I get such a kick out of that.
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I think it s fun.
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Gentleman friend does sound like actually it sounds like you re in your hundreds.
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if not passed away.
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But I mean, that s better than, I mean, see, but partner to me is more like you re living together and you re, but if you re dating, then just, uh, either say, this is Timothy.
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We screw or this is Timothy.
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We ve been going out for a few years now.
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This is Timothy.
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Don t you dare sleep with him.
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He s taken or,
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This is my Timothy.
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Here s my Timothy.
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I always like how the British say that.
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They ll say like, oh, how s our Laura?
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But when you say my friend, that doesn t, that just sounds like you re trying to hide something.
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Yeah.
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It seems unusually suspicious.
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This has always been a problem.
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It s been a problem for decades.
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Oh, you know what I m going to say?
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Hmm.
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You know what I m going to say?
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If it s that much of a problem, marry him, and then just say, this is my husband.
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If it s that much of a problem for you, and that s good advice.
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All right, Viv, congratulations on your new gentleman friend that you re screwing.
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David, those were all of the listener questions we had today, but there is
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one more person that you and I have to help before you go, and it s someone named Unlucky, in quotes, and it s from almost 100 years ago.
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This is Advice of Yesteryear.
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When Jerry brags about taking Ginny out, he learns that she dates all the boys.
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So as we see now, menstruation is just one routine step
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in a normal and natural cycle.
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How do you choose a date?
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Well, one thing you can consider is look.
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I did everything you said, but my boss still hasn t asked me to lunch.
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Here we take a real question from an old advice column, and we try to give a better answer.
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This question comes to us from 1927.
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Here it goes.
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Dear Dorothy Dix,
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I m a young man and have been keeping company with a typical flapper for three years.
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I love this girl very much, but she has an entirely different point of view from myself about life.
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She knows that I m saving my money to go into business for myself, but she s always asking me to lend her money to buy clothes.
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She never returns the money.
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She s very extravagant.
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And when I refuse to give her money, she calls me a tightwad and refuses to speak to me.
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Do you think she really loves me?
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Do you think that if I marry her, we will be happy and have a peaceful home?
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Signed, unlucky.
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I mean, I personally feel like this flapper doesn t really love unlucky.
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If, you know, if it was a modern question, it would be like, but the sex is great.
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What do I do?
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Right.
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But if it was a hundred years ago, you can t mention that aspect of it.
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And I m going to guess, but when I read between the lines there, I m thinking the sex is pretty good.
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And otherwise he would have cut her loose already.
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I m guessing this, the, the, the thrill of the sex is wearing off.
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And now he s like, wait a minute.
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She always wants money from me.
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maybe she doesn t love me.
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Yeah.
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At first it was fun to be with this crazy old flapper.
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And now all of that s worn off and he s just got this gold digger.
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Well, I think he s kind of a square too.
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I get the idea that he s kind of a square and that it would be the same thing.
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Like, you know, if the question was, was from a hundred years ago,
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She s like exciting, you know, she s like a hippie chick, you know, in the 1960s, she s like new and now and vibrant.
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And, um, and, you know, when he s kind of saving his money up to go into business and he doesn t say what the business is, but I don t know, doesn t sound like it s going to be too terribly exciting.
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And she s young and he s, you know, she s probably thinking, well,
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you know, I might as well get something out of it.
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No, she doesn t love him.
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And he needs to go and find someone, you know, there are plenty of women out there who, you know, oh, that s great.
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He s saving his money to go into business.
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And I ll just wear this sack dress until, you know, his business gets off the ground.
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And I ll just, you know, I ll just eat one meal a day instead of two.
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But I wish that,
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he would have included more detail of their relationship because it sounds in his letter like we just go out and we go to restaurants and sometimes we hold hands and we go dancing sometimes and now she wants this money from me.
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And I think every generation thinks they invented sex.
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You know, my mother said that to me once, you kids think you invented sex.
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And it was so shocking to hear that from my mom because I thought, didn t we?
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Didn t we invent it?
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And no, of course we didn t.
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In this segment about yesteryear, I m always reminded that we re basically essentially talking about corpses because this is so long ago, nearly a hundred years ago.
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But here s what Dorothy Dix said, the chances are that your guardian angel will save you and that this girl will leave you for some man who is easier to work.
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She s just a gold digger.
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See, as I said, and the only thing about any man that she is capable of loving is his pocketbook.
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I mean, Dorothy Dix sniffed this one out years ago.
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You don t really hear the term gold digger anymore though, do you?
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David, thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
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I was going to say, I know you re a busy guy, but it sounds like maybe you re not.
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I m not busy, but I will say, I think I dispensed some damn good advice.
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You jumped in and really answered every single question with such confidence and like you know what you re talking about.
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It s as if you re a writer or something.
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But hearing your voice and hearing your thoughts is just such a really incredible reminder of raw, raw, amazing talent you are.
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And it s just really inspiring.
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I m jealous of your brain and I m thankful for your time.
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I m blushing.
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Yeah, thank you so much.
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And would you like to plug your book before we head out of here?
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Sure, no need to.
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Well, then I m going to.
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David s book, The Best of Me, is available everywhere that books are sold.
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You can send in your own questions at DontAskTig.org, and we might try to answer them on a future episode.
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Or we have a brand new option to send us questions.
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You can now call 833-275-8444.
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That s 833-ASK-TIG-4.
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leave me a voicemail.
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That s an option to these days.
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And again, that s don t ask tig.org to reach us with your questions.
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Thank you, David.
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And I hope to see you again, whether it s Scotland or elsewhere.
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Don t Ask Tig is hosted by me, Tig Notaro.
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It s produced by Thomas Ouellette, Mary Knoth, and Tracy Mumford.
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Our editor is Phyllis Fletcher, executive producer Lauren Dee, engineering and sound mixing by Eric Romani, digital production by Christina Lopez.
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Talent Booking by Marianne Ways, Production Assistance by Nancy Hsu.
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Our theme music is Friend in Tig by Edie Burkell and Kyle Crusham, and Listen to Your Heart by Edie Burkell.
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Special thanks to Hunter Seidman, Lily Kim, and Alex Schaffert.
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Our executive consultant is Dean Capello and Gobsmack Studios.
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You can always ask for advice at DontAskTig.org.
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Just write in with your problem or send us a voice memo.
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You can also follow us on social media at DontAskTig.
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DontAskTig is a production of American Public Media.
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And as always, thanks, Dana.
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And I ll tell Becky.
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I m Christina Cotarucci, and this season on Slow Burn.
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It s called Proposition 6.
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The Briggs Initiative.
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John Briggs is going to fire every gay and lesbian school teacher in California.
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With so much at stake, young people became activists.
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We can t let this happen in California.
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And activists became leaders.
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My name is Harvey Milker and I m here to include you.
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Slow Burn, Season 9.
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Gays Against Briggs.
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Out now, wherever you listen.