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Hello?
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What s your name, big money player?
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Uh, this is Derek.
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Derek.
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You ever seen the, uh, no, Disney Channel show called Life with Derek?
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How have I not seen that?
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Uh, is that like, is that a lot older?
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How old are you?
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I m 29.
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You would have, you, maybe you were too old for Disney Channel when it came out.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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I was more of a Nickelodeon kid, you know?
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Okay.
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Would you watch on Nickelodeon?
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Fuck ton of blues clues, bro.
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That was my shit.
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That s cool I remember when the blues clues movie came out and they had the dog the dog was in a costume and it was a Crazy game-changer to me.
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I actually saw that and was like, how did they do that?
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How did they make?
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Yeah, man come alive and Imagine like seeing that at the at a young age man is mind-blowing crazy
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Well, Derek, I assume you didn t call in to talk about how awesome the Blue s Clues movie was.
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I did not.
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You re correct.
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Although I could, if you want to.
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Tell me what you wanted to talk about initially.
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Yeah.
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So I have very overbearing parents.
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Even at the age of 29, they really don t give me much freedom.
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And it s concerning.
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to say the least.
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Okay.
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When you say they don t give you much freedom, freedom... Well, I mean, I have a few questions, but... Okay, when you say that, freedom to do what, specifically?
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What things do they not give you the freedom to do?
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Just, like, normal adult things.
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Like, they won t even let me move out of their house, even though I have definitely the financial means to be able to do it.
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And because I m under their roof, they ve
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feel like rightfully so, because it s their house that they can dictate, like, who I hang out with, what I eat, what I drink.
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So, yeah.
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Okay.
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So, if you have the means, by what authority do they control these things?
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I just think
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because maybe, maybe it s me just not, um, putting my foot down, but I just feel like if they, if they really want me to stay there, that I have to respect that because they re my parents, you know, like, like, you know what I mean?
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Maybe, maybe I shouldn t be doing that, but I, I do feel like, you know, they did a lot for me growing up.
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So I thought, I think the least I could do in my mind, not saying it s right or wrong is to stay there with them.
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They don t really need any help or anything just to stay there.
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Um,
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Hmm.
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Are you, are you in their house right now?
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I am.
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Yeah.
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I m in the basement.
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Just you or any sibling?
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No, I m an only child.
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Okay.
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So just you, mom and dad.
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Correct.
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Uh, parents still together.
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They re not remarried or anything.
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Yeah.
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They don t have the best relationship, but they re still together.
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Okay.
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Um,
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If you have the means to move out, and maybe you ve explained this already, but if you have the means to move out financially, how come you don t do it?
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Um, like I said, I think, I think it s just kind of like a subliminal thing.
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Like I want to, I want to respect my parents wishes since they like raised me and like paid for my college and all that.
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You know what I mean?
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Do you want to leave your parents  house or do you kind of like it there?
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I mean, I don t mind it.
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It just, I feel self-conscious about it, I guess is my thing.
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Like, cause, cause all my friends my age are all like with their own homes, their own families, you know what I mean?
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And I m kind of the only one who s still here, even though I don t need to be, but I m comfortable.
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Do you ever leave the house?
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I do.
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Yeah, I like go hang out with my friends.
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But like I said, there s some times where like, I ll say I m going to hang out with Matt.
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And they ll say no, no, no, you can t hang out with Matt.
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And I just I just I don t I follow their wishes.
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I don t know, maybe they brainwashed me or something.
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Do you have a more, do you have a, I guess, a more compelling reason to stay in your mom s house other than you feel like you owe her?
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I guess just my own comfort with just being, being content with what I ve known forever.
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Right.
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And I struggle, I m taking long pauses when I m talking to you because I really do struggle with this thing of like, I truly believe that everyone s wired differently and that there is no right or wrong way to live your life.
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But if we re talking about whether or not you would be happier
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not living in your mom s house and being able to go hang out with your friends and live life and not be subject to your parents telling you what to eat and what to drink and who you can and can t hang out with.
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I would hypothesize that you would be happier, but do you agree with that?
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I don t disagree at all.
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I guess, I guess where I m at is like, I don t even know how to start that conversation.
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like to break apart from it, you know?
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Tell me more about why you agree with the hypothesis that you would be happier.
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Cause I think even, even though I m comfortable, I think deep down, I know that having the freedom would be better for me in the long run.
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What do you do for work?
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Um, I, uh, I design websites.
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Cool.
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You work for a web developer?
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I do.
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Okay, cool.
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So you can go anywhere, really?
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You don t even have to stay in, what state are you in?
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Uh, I m in Colorado.
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Okay.
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Oh my God.
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You can go anywhere.
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Um, if you had to, how would you start this conversation?
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I had to.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think the right thing to do obviously would just to like be sit, sit down with them and be honest.
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But I, I, there s a lot of anxiety around that.
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Why is that?
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I think most people would have.
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Just, just cause you, you fear, uh, I fear of the many different reactions I would get from them.
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And you just like never know until you do it, you know, what reactions do you fear you would get from them?
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I mean, in my mind, they could, they could get kind of upset about it just because they ve been kind of like controlling for the whole time that I ve been around, you know?
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Um, okay.
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I asked this question honestly.
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Yeah.
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What is so bad about your parents being upset at you because you re moving out?
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Just the fact that I m disappointing them.
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Again, it just goes back to like being grateful for what they ve done for me as a person.
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I think that you can be grateful for them for what they ve done for you as a person and not view and not let that gratefulness serve as some sort of eternal debt that you need to pay back by allowing them control over your life.
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Right.
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I see what you re saying.
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You know, this is not me, this is something I read on Reddit at some point.
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Your parents raising you is not some kind of a debt that you need to pay back, okay?
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I think it s nice that you re being grateful to your mom and your dad, but you don t owe them anything, and you certainly don t owe them
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You know, your birth your birth certificate doesn t come with a clause that they own all the rights to your existence in perpetuity.
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So I don t think it would be.
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I don t think you need to live like that.
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For sure, for sure, I know, I definitely get that.
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I think it all just comes down to
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In my, like I said, I m just like worried.
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I ve always worried about.
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their reaction to me wanting to get out.
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And I need to stop worrying about that.
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It s not that bad.
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It s not going to be that bad.
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People being upset with you.
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I believe you.
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People being upset with you is not that bad, especially the people, people being justifiably upset at you is not that bad.
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People being unjustifiably upset at you.
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That s like, that s nothing, you know?
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Right, right.
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I mean, you and I both know, I understand that you re afraid, but I think you know that you gotta put your foot down and face your fears and your parents being upset with you.
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You were mentioning earlier about being a people pleaser, like I feel like I kind of fall into that trap too.
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Sure, you know sure my thing with people-pleasing is it s I think it s okay.
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I think it s good to be cognizant of people but not until it has a Detrimental effect on you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and this is having it down like anything in life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, for sure and also, you know, you re not like a
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You re not like, um, I don t know.
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Disabled and need to stay home and like, can t don t, I don t have the, the, the means to, you know, uh, leave your house.
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Like you re, you re a, you have friends.
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You re like, uh, you know, you got a whole, you got a whole life.
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except for this little thing.
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And I think you need to sit down with your parents.
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I mean, you don t even need to sit down with them.
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You can leave them a note, but I think it d be good for you to sit down with them because you got to face this fear because it s going to severely hold you back in life.
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And you don t want to be 40 and still repaying this theoretical debt to your parents and realize that you just wasted a bunch of your life.
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Right.
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You re still very young.
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You can go out and do a billion different things.
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So, you know, go do that.
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I mean, also, look, people shit on it, but hanging out in your mom s basement, eating chicken tenders and playing Xbox.
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Oh, dude, there s nothing like it.
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is nothing like it s a great life it s pretty sick yeah it s pretty uh that s that s okay this this is why i said at the beginning i was like there s no right way to live life i honestly think a guy who
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you know, travels the world and, you know, gets in perfect shape and falls in love and has a family and, you know, gets an award for creating windmill whatever stuff.
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I honestly think that guy and a guy who hangs out in his mom s basement playing Red Dead Redemption and
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getting high and stuff.
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I think both of those lives are good in different ways.
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So, you know, you do you, man.
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Yeah, I appreciate that.
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I think I think I just needed to talk this out with someone and it was really helpful.
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I appreciate it.
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I think I m going to go try and talk with them tomorrow.
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Okay, good.
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Please do.
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And please, dear God, what s your name again?
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Derek.
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Derek, listen to me.
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Do not be afraid of your parents being upset with you because you want to go out and live your own life.
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Fuck yeah.
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Alright, sweet.
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Fuck yeah.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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No, thanks for the time, man.
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Appreciate it.
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Take care.
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I m actually about to go move back into my parents, uh, basement.
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Two.
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And... I m excited.
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I think I m gonna get sick of it after... I think it s gonna be pretty sick for... like, three weeks.
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That s- you know what, that s the thing, is I- and I actually take back what I said about the, like, living your life to the fullest versus sitting in your mom s basement playing video games is the same thing.
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I think... the first...
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three weeks of getting high all day playing video games is like, if you could have that, if the first three weeks was the whole existence of that, it would be sweet.
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It would be better than living your life to the fullest.
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But after those first three weeks, it, it, it, the returns diminished significantly.
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So it s probably better to leave your mom s basement.
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Hello?
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Hey, what s up?
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This is Lyle.
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Yeah, who is this?
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This is Kay.
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Hey, what s up, Kay?
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How s life?
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Um, currently I am dealing with COVID for the first time, so I feel like ass, so that s where we re at.
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You have- you have- let s see.
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Wait, so you got through- I mean, it s been three years.
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Yeah.
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And you re feeling it for the first time?
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Yeah, my mom tested positive this morning, and then it just all happened today, so yeah.
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Hmm.
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Well, I feel like, um... Well, you re fine.
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You can probably- I mean, no one cares anymore, so you can probably just go out.
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Yeah, but do I really want to?
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No, it s kind of nice in the comfort of my home here.
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That s true.
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That s true.
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Um... Kay, what s up?
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What do you want to talk about today?
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Um, well, I m gonna say it was about a year ago, I saw my sister s boobs online with my best friend, willingly.
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Um...
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Just for a backstory really quick, I am not close with my sister anymore.
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She s about 22 years old.
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At that time, I was at my dad s apartment every weekend and she was living there for a little bit of time as well and basically, she told my dad, Hey, I m gonna go see a friend for the weekend.
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My dad s like, Okay, whatever.
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I don t really care.
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The weekend goes by, we ve heard nothing from her.
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only to find out that she flew out to California to hook up with a girl.
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Cool.
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Yeah, so I had to do some internet digging to kind of figure out like, what the hell?
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Why?
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Why is she not home?
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So yeah, she was out in California.
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And long story short, I started figuring out that she was on this platform like TikTok.
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Um, I m not going to say the name.
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How old is she?
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How old is she at the time?
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She was probably 20, 21, 21.
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Yeah.
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So basically I found out that she was streaming on this app, kind of like Tik TOK.
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Again, not going to say the name, but basically she was seducing the crowd issues like on this kind of like a Tik TOK live, but that other app.
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And she was basically telling me she was- Wait, she was on- She was on like a cam site.
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She was camming.
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Basically.
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Alright.
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So, long story short, my best friend and I get into the live and we all have our code names, whatever.
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So she s like, oh, you need to tag- I m sorry, I m sorry.
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You and your friend find out that your sister is camgirling and you get- you just start hanging out in her live with all the guys that are jacking off to her?
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Exactly.
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So what inspired you to you know, go ahead.
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I ll save my questions for the end of this story So long story short my best friend Isaac.
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He decided to pay to get into the live like the next stage So if you didn t pay, you know, if you didn t pay for the next part you were just kicked out We were screen recording the entire time and it alerted my sister which we had no idea that was a thing so
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So I alerted my sister, and she s like, oh my god, do not record, I ll let you stay in, but cut it out now or you re kicked out.
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So we just kept it going, because we weren t gonna stop it, whatever.
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Just to figure out why.
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Hold on, so you find out that your sister is camgirling, you go into her cam chat thing, you screen record it, she expresses that she does not want it to be screen recorded, and you continue to screen record it?
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Correct.
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Why?
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Um, it was more, this sounds terrible proof for my dad, I m like, she is not doing good things, you need to kick her out.
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What?
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Why?
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Why would you do that to your sister?
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Now, okay, so for my entire life, she has been a pathological liar.
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She wasn t able to walk at graduation.
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She was just a very bad person overall.
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So, her and I never really clicked together.
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And at that point, she wasn t paying rent to my dad.
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She was just, again, lying like everything happens.
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And yeah.
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So, basically,
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Yeah.
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How old are you?
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I m 19.
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Why do you give, why do you fuck, why do you give a fuck about any of this?
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Now, I don t have a problem with like sex work online.
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However, it kind of hit different when it was like my sister.
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Yeah.
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I grew up with her when I, you know, I was little, whatever.
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But then she was trying to take that route.
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And again, just from our history and shit, I was like, nah,
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We could be doing better things, but... Okay, what s your name?
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I m Kay.
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Kay, I m gonna highly suggest to you that, um... Kay, I m gonna highly suggest to you that you abandon your interest in your sister s... I m gonna highly suggest that you abandon your interest in chastising your sister s life.
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Um...
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for any reason other than out of love for her and desire.
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for her to, you know, be better, whatever you think that looks like.
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I highly suggest you abandon chastising your sister s life and focus on your own.
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Because this, like, I mean, screen recording your sister s cam sessions and send them to your dad... There s just no reason for you to be doing that.
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Like, it s not helpful for anyone.
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Yeah, so we were getting stuff like in the mail, like it was her taxes.
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So like basically she had to pay whatever company it was, but she wasn t paying them.
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And my dad, it had like a weird name.
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He s like, can you figure this out?
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What I am looking at here?
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I m like, yeah, okay.
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So then that kind of spiraled into me finding what the thing was and all that stuff.
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Still, why do you like, this just doesn t seem like something that s productive for you to get involved in.
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No, but it was very interesting with the outcome of it because it was not expecting it at all type of thing.
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What s your relationship like with your sister?
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We do not talk.
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I ve tried reaching out and being like, hey, how are you?
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She moved to a different state.
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I think she s in like Tennessee right now.
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I m like, hey, you want to talk?
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And she s like, oh, yeah.
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And then I kind of just dropped everything.
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Whatever.
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I don t think if you have the desire to repair your relationship with your sister, I don t know if this is the way to go about it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, she doesn t know that I told my dad, so that was like nothing in the works.
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So yeah, I would love to repair my relationship with my sister, but from everything she did in like my childhood and whatnot, it was just like, it s hard to get back to it, you know?
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Listen, Kay, I- I m not gonna tell you whether or not you should attempt to repair your relationship with your sister, but, um, I will say to you, I m- like, Get- and you- and the fact- the fact- you say it s interesting, right?
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Yeah.
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Like, this was- this was, like, entertainment for you.
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Okay, I think you should I think and I mean this I m not saying this to like be a dick to you I think you should find better sources of entertainment Okay, I think like you know one thing that will just fuck you up hard is if you Don t have anything going on in your own life
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And, as a distraction from doing whatever you gotta do to make it so that there s stuff going on in your own life, you fuck around with other people.
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You know?
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That s a- that s a- and- and, wha- I mean, whatever man, you re like, young, so I don t fault you for not understanding that right now, but like,
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I just hope you, I don t know if this one phone call, I don t know if you re gonna understand that in this one phone call, but I just hope that...
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You understand that because it ll just fuck you up for it.
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It ll fuck you up forever Like you ll if you don t understand that you re gonna be like the 80 year old woman calling the cops on the kids skateboarding that s how you become that is you just have no you have no life and so you see other people doing things and you try to fuck with them because it s Something and it s a bit.
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It s not a good road and not that it was just like
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I was trying to like totally blackmail her.
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I was like, hey dad, I found out what was going on.
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I don t know if you want to hear what s going on.
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Why?
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But just why?
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Why Kay?
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Why?
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Um, because yeah, during that time we, she kind of just like dropped everything, did not
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speak a word to us, like, hey, I m going out to a completely different state, whatever.
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Yeah, she s fucking 21 years old.
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She can do whatever she wants.
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She s an adult.
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She probably pays, she probably pays, she probably makes money doing that, pays her own bills with it.
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She can fucking do whatever she wants.
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She doesn t have to tell her dad or, and she doesn t have to do any of that.
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Right.
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Again, it s just kind of like the sister part of me.
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I m just like, ah, what are we doing?
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But like I said, I don t necessarily have a problem with like the work online at all.
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It s just when I see my sister, I m just like,
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dang all right well i listen k um i i don t know dude i hope you got something out of talking about this um is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go um let s say peace actually i m real before i know i what do you what do you do with your life right now are you in school do you i m a banker you re a banker yes
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You can bank at 19.
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Don t you need to like go to school for that?
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No, um, I got a, it was originally a part-time as a teller and then I got promoted to a full-timer.
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So we were kind of doing that after high school.
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Do you like banking?
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Um, I do.
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However, some people nowadays have been really grouchy because of the holiday season, which I get.
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It s busy time and whatnot.
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Oh, sorry.
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No, sorry.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Um, peace, love, and I hope everybody has a good night on the stream.
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Alright, take care, Kay.
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You too, buh-bye.
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Bro, look, dude.
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If your sister is of age and wants to show her boobs on the internet, you know, that s her prerogative, you know what I mean?
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I don t think it s cool to, you know, start telling on her to everyone.
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Hello?
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Hey, what s up, dude?
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I m a gecko on the computer.
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I just drank a Celsius energy drink.
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That s a free promotion for Celsius energy drink.
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I drink them a lot and they have like 200 milligrams of caffeine in them, which I think is like the maximum
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No, I think the maximum like the the amount that s like if you go over this you ll die is 400 so two cans gets you there, but right now I m only on one and I feel I feel pretty good.
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I don t know what s in the stuff, but I know the stuff is in me Well are you jittery?
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No, I actually feel, again, not, and Celsius did not pay me to say this, I actually feel really good when I drink these things for like a second.
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I feel alert.
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It s like, you ever take Adderall?
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I feel like Adderall-y, you know, Adderall makes you feel awake, alert, optimistic, all that stuff.
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If you go, by the way, for those listening, if you go out and drink a Celsius and you have a heart attack, I m not liable for that.
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What s your name?
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I don t want to talk about this anymore.
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I m Brady.
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Brady, how can I geck you today?
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I don t know, man.
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I just wanted to hear your voice.
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I ve been partying so much, thought that d be cool, and I watched you for so many... I guess years now, but I just wanted to hear your voice.
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That s...
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Cool.
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Have we spoken before?
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Absolutely not.
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You ve been partying.
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You re talking to me like I m a lost lover from your life or something like that.
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Aw, shucks.
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I mean, I think everyone s a lost lover to me.
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I try and play it fair.
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Who are you, man?
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What s your deal?
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You ve been partying a lot?
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yeah i think too much man i mean i got so much going on i got a good girly i got a good job so i just can t stop having fun what is that what does having fun look like to you having fun to me is waking up and just getting obliterated man and i know that s
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not a good thing, but I just love it so much.
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That sounds more like alcoholism.
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It s not even alcohol, though.
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It s it s why it is alcohol, but it s more of just like everything that you could think of.
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I ve tried and I don t know why, because I m such a good I m a good boy, you know, like I d hold the door open for any old lady and I smile at everyone.
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But for some reason, I ve got this demon in me that s like, we have to have fun, even when it s not fun.
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What is everything?
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Like, are you on heroin or meth?
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And like, are you getting into hard stuff?
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I ve tried.
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I mean, I smoked H, but it s not, you know, it s just not what it is, right?
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You know, people say it s all that, but you know, next thing you know, you re just a loser.
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Do you feel like a loser?
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No, not at all.
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I love my life.
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I got a beautiful fucking girlie.
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I got a beautiful job.
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I mean, I got my own place.
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I mean, that s pretty much more than most people I like to believe.
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That s really all you could, I think, want in life is a good career, a nice place to live and a girlfriend.
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That s cool.
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But also, um, I mean, I don t know, I m no doctor, but, uh, waking up and getting obliterated every day doesn t sound extremely healthy.
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I mean, I do it with Skittles, but... Well, I don t know, you re right, but, you know, what, hey, Kay, I gotta ask you, Gak, what age would you be okay with dying at?
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Why are we, are you... How long have you been waking up every day and getting obliterated for?
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Oh, years, man.
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Ever since I was like 15.
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Okay, how old are you now?
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I m 22.
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Okay, how much longer do you think you can keep it up for?
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I hope I can keep it up till 40.
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I mean, that s pretty much where I want to go is at 40.
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I like to believe after 40, you know, you ve done it.
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your body has done it.
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And after 40, it s like, okay, we re kind of enjoying what we have, but I don t want to enjoy what I have.
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I want to enjoy the house.
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Hmm.
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It s harder.
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Um, what does your girlfriend think about this?
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Hmm.
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She doesn t like it, but you know what?
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No, I know it s a surprise, right?
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But I mean, come on.
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I mean,
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What do you do?
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I m such a lovable guy and I treat every, I mean, I don t want to toot my own horn, but I really do take an extra step to be that good of a guy for the extra person that I don t even know.
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Just because I know that I m going to have less years than the average human being.
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I like the idea that you re a guy where drugs and alcohol have actually made you a nicer, better person instead of a dick.
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That s a scary fucking thing, Geck.
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Yeah, it is.
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Scary thing.
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It is.
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So you don t even remember a time in your life where you weren t getting obliterated every day?
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No, I do.
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But I was just, you know, as a kid, I was just so bullied.
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And I always had like a tough relationship.
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Like my parents were kind of like the worst.
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So anytime I was obliterated, I was just given love.
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And even when I m not obliterated, I m giving love, but I just prefer to be obliterated while giving love.
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Are you obliterated right now?
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No.
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No, I just got off work.
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What do you do for work?
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I work at a pipe factory.
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Okay.
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Do you ever get obliterated and go to work?
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I used to, honestly.
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I m ashamed to say.
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I used to.
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And then I got trapped in a saw.
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Like a huge industrial saw and I almost died.
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It s a good reason to stop doing that.
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Thank you, Jack.
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I liked it.
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That s what my girlfriend said.
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How long have you been with your girlfriend for?
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Two years.
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Love of my life.
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I m going to marry this woman.
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She gives it all for me and I just wish I could give it all for her more.
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Does she also get obliterated?
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Um,
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You know, that s the scariest thing, Gak, is I ve always had this nature, and again, I m not too in my own horn, but I m just a social fucking guy, and I can read cues where it s, I can understand when someone is a little bit curious of it, and I just got these demons in me that since I m just such a, an obliterated type of guy, I can really get any person to, you know, consider it.
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And then I don t know why I do it, but I turn them to the dark side, and I like it.
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What, what does that mean?
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What do you mean you turn them to the dark side?
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Well, you know, we started this conversation, you re talking about like, how long do you think you could live, Brady?
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But to me, how I look at that is not how long I can live, but how many people I can influence to live the lifestyle I live.
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And it s not right.
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Brady, Brady, come on, man.
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What are you fucking talking about?
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I agree it s not well, but I know it s dark.
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It s it s really dark.
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I don t know how to fix it.
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Oh my god.
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So well, first of all, you know, this is this is I hate to sound like a fucking school principal, but this is drug and alcohol addiction, not the fucking Star Wars, my friends.
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I completely agree.
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Grady, you said your name was?
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Did you just say it with a G?
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Brady, like Tom Brady, the dude that deflated the football.
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God, I don t know, this is so beyond me, but I m conflicting.
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Look, on one hand, on one hand, I m slightly, I don t know, libertarian on this issue of like, look man, if your prerogative is to go and, I don t know if I m using the word libertarian correctly, I might be stupid.
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I kind of think if your prerogative truly is to just, you know, spend your life getting fucked up, then, you know, that s your right as a free human being on the earth to go do that.
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But I don t know if it s gonna help you in the long run.
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Or the people that you have in your life.
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That s an interesting...
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I respect that, that s an interesting outlook.
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Can I ask why you think that?
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Can I ask?
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You re asking me why I think that getting fucked up every day is not a good thing?
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No, Bullet, well... When you put it in that sense, it sounds dumb.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, it does sound a little dumb.
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No, 100%, but that s what I m trying to fix, Jack.
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I don t know what to do, because...
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You know, there s, I just, uh, I believe that I m a really good person, but I believe I m also an even better person when I m like messed up and I love to be messed up, but I also love turning people into the messed up stuff.
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And I m trying to fix that in me.
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Like, I know it s wrong.
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Trust me.
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I don t, it s not like I want this.
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I didn t grow up to think that this is what I wanted, but I mean, just being in it and living day to day, I mean, just the ability to change a person s aspect or even their day.
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By me being obliterated, like I have a higher chance to make them happy.
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This is all I ve ever wanted.
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Like when I was a kid going to school, I remember I wouldn t go to school to learn.
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I went to school to make people s days, make them smile.
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Brady, this is one of those times in my show where I need to tell you that this problem is beyond me and you need to go see a real therapist-slash-counselor person.
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But now that I ve said that to you, I ll just tell you this logic that you have.
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Brady, I think you re a sweet guy.
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Um, and you re a nice guy, you have good intentions for the- okay, you don t seem like a hostile individual, but this logic that you re bestowing upon us right now is- is nuts, dude.
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You re saying to me right now that you getting obliterated and fucked up is making other people s day?
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What does that mean?
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Like an example of that would be like, if I go to the grocery store sober,
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You know, and I see an old lady, I smile at her and I say, hey, you look nice.
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But like, if I go, and obliterate is the wrong word, but if I go and I ve had a bump or I ve had anything, you know, just a toke or just a drink, you know, I can go to that lady that s working the cashier and I can really look at her and be like, you know what, I just want you to know that like, people love you.
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And sometimes
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It does backfire, and then they look at me like I m a junkie, which is respectable.
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I kind of am.
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But on the other side, it s those small moments.
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Sorry, yeah?
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Brady, you can do those things without being- Brady, you can tell a person to have a nice day without being on cocaine.
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Oh, 100%.
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Brady, again, I ll say this because, you know, I think you re- I think you re a sweet guy, but you re- the logic that you use to live your life every day is- is- is a fallacy and is- is fucked up and is gonna make your life and the life of people around you, um, worse.
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And I want you to understand that because I- and because I think that to your core you re a good guy, I want you to understand that.
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And and try and take that into like some real therapy because I I don t I I don t agree with a single thing that you ve you ve said to me.
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I think hiding in you
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is a sweet guy who wants everyone to love everyone and wants everyone to have a nice day and wants to be entertaining and make people laugh and make people smile.
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And I get how you can get into a trap of thinking that you need to be fucked up on cocaine and alcohol every single day to make that happen.
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I understand the math of how you got there, but that math is wrong.
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And I hope you understand that, um, these things that you want to do and accomplish and this person that you want to be and this energy that you want to radiate can- all of those things can be done without you having to take a bump of cocaine first.
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And, um, I don t know what to do to make you understand that more than just telling it to you, um, but you need to unlearn those things about yourself because I think they re just going to be very detrimental to you.
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Hey, you know, I get, I really appreciate your honesty and I do, I take your words deeply.
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But if I can open up just for one second, you talk about therapy and this is the one issue I ve had is I ve had therapy.
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I have family members that are close to me that are counselors, but I ve struggled with therapy before just because I ve been groomed by a therapist.
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And then I had one of my best friends be a therapist and he just completely turned to the dark side, like the worst human being I ve ever met.
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So both of those has really turned me away from ever getting help.
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Okay, I m very curious about this, because you ve used this phrase, the dark side, several times, and I think it has a different meaning when you say it about your friend.
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What does it mean when you say it about your friend?
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Well, me turning people to the dark side, you re right, you re right.
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Me turning them to the dark side is more of just like evil versus like really drugs is what that is.
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versus him turning the dark side was more of an arrogance, high and mighty.
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I don t care what you say, because I m always right type of deal.
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But I m going to be, I want to be honest with you, Jack.
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That s not the main reason.
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The main reason is, I mean, when I was 15, I was groomed by a therapist.
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So it s really hard for me to even trust someone who has that kind of power and you have to listen to them.
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But Brady, first of all, I m sorry that that happened to you.
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Um, but I, I, I mean, I don t know, man.
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Look, look, Brady, you don t have to do anything, but, um, if you re calling me and you re asking, I don t even know if you re asking me, I don t know if you came on here just to tell me these things or to ask me for my perspective on them.
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Um,
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But did you come here to just tell me these things or to ask me for my perspective on them?
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I genuinely would like to know.
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Honestly, I came in here to hear your voice.
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I mean, I love your perspective and I ve been a longtime listener.
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And you do, you ve got some very just raw, you tell it how it is.
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And I really respect that even though you have your own issues going on.
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But I do really respect how
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You give advice, even you want to tell people what to do, even though you don t want to tell people what to do, but you just have that deep thing inside of you where you, you know, what s right.
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And I would love to hear it.
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Well, I m on the, I, I, the only reason I m being so, um, I m going to be so honest with you.
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The only reason I m being so adamant in this phone call is because I m on a lot of Celsius energy drink caffeine right now.
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And it s hyping me up.
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Um, Oh God.
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Um,
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I don t- I don t know, Brady.
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I don t know.
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It s- it s- it s beyond me, man.
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But I- I just think that you re doing the wrong math in your head about the person you want to be.
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I like the- the crux of where you re coming from.
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You know?
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You want to be a pos- you want to be a cool guy smiling at old ladies at the grocery store.
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And just- and follow that- but I just- I need you to understand that- that
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getting fucked up all the time is not the best way to achieve that goal.
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I think when it comes to drugs in general, it s like anytime you take some aspect of your personality or of your life
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and you make it a condition that you can only be that way when you re on drugs, you just fuck yourself for no reason.
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It s really a stupid thing to do.
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Anytime you re like, oh, I m a better person when I m fucked up, I m funnier when I m fucked up,
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I m nicer when I m fucked up.
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I m more whatever when any part you take any positive trait and you make it a condition that you can only be that trait when you re fucked up you just you re doing that for no reason and It s not gonna help you and I want you to understand Brady that the thing that s causing you to want to smile at that old lady is is a desire within you that has nothing to do with being fucked up and
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So, um, if you get any, I don t know, I appreciate that you, um, like the show and you wanted to hear my voice, um, but if you get any, if you can think about anything after I hang up from this phone call, I just want it to be that you have a, you have a, your fundamental understanding of
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Who you are and why you are that way is fucked up Which I know is a crazy thing and I don t know it s probably not my right to say that to a stranger, but You should re you should rework yourself to understand that you can be all the things that you want to be without having to Be fucked up all the time Is that a fair thing to say?
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Oh Yeah
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Be honest, everybody.
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I mean, you re spitting facts right now.
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Of course there s an issue.
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I m not arguing this is an issue.
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The only thing I m saying is I ve just, I ve done this for so long and I didn t have any parental conditioning to pull me away from this.
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So from 15 to 22, I mean, like I ve just been, I know I don t have to be messed up to look at a lady and say, hey, you know what?
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I really hope you have a beautiful day.
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Because that s in me, but it s also in me
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the drug.
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And I know it s not good.
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But but but but Brady you get your I I m I m I m very sorry to hear that.
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you experience what you experience.
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But I really think at this point in your life you get to decide whether or not certain things are a part of you.
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And I think it would be helpful for you to really sit down and understand what parts of you are helpful for your life and what parts of you are not helpful.
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And, um, I m not, you know, like I said, if you want to get fucked up all day, uh, that s your prerogative, and I get where you re coming from, and I m not going to tell you whether or not your life is going to be better if you do it, um, or even if you- I don t even know if you care about whether or not your life would be- I don t know what you care about, but, um, I just- Brett, I just hope you think about, um,
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You know, I hope I hope you examine the beliefs that you have about yourself and really prod at them So you and you know are living intentionally instead of just letting yourself get swept away by your your your habits and Entrenched beliefs that didn t even really come from you.
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Does that make any sense?
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I Really appreciate you telling me that for sure I
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This got way more.
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I swear to God.
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I actually feel this is not an ad for the Celsius energy drink.
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It s really not, but I actually feel like the energy.
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I actually feel like I was fired up because I m on so much caffeine that I
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was us acted like a school principal for the entire time of this call.
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Thanks for letting me do that.
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Brady, is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
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You know what?
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There is.
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I just want to tell people, you know, in your darkest moments, you re really going to look around and you re going to wonder what is what means the most to you.
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And coming from a guy who has almost died, messed up on drugs at work, those small moments where you just think it s all going to be over.
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The only thing you re ever going to think about is the people closest to you.
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So just remember that don t, don t follow money and follow the moments of people.
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Thanks for calling Brady.
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I love you.
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Dude, sometimes with this show, I m like, I m gonna probably watch this phone call back and be like, who the fuck is this guy that s talking right now?
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I don t know, I m in over my head with a lot of this shit.
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I don t take back anything that I said.
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I hope it got through to Brady in some way.
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I think he s a good guy.
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But yeah, I don t know, I m in over my head doing this shit.
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But you know, it s my life now.
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This is what I do.
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I talk to strangers on the phone about sometimes crazy things So I don t know this is let s just do it.
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What s the worst that could happen?
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What s the worst that could happen?
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I don t know.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Let s keep this.
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All right Hello, hello, what s your name?
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Oh
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Oh hey, this is Cliff.
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Holy crap, it s Gak.
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Hey!
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Yeah, what s up Cliff?
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What s going on, baby?
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I am just having a nice Friday.
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I m gonna go out and see my girlfriend tonight and have some drinks.
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Doing good, man.
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That s cool, man.
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I like a baseline life, you know what I mean?
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Like a baseline day, like no one died, nothing amazing happened.
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It s just you going to eat food with the person that you like.
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That s a good day.
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Hell yeah.
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I mean, I went to the dentist or that.
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That didn t change a single thing, in my opinion.
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Cliff, what s up, man?
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What d you want to talk about today?
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Yeah, well, I wanted your thoughts on what men who do aerial philcs are supposed to wear, pants-wise.
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Because, like, a lot of the other students in the class, like, it s mostly women, and a lot of them wear, like, really, really tight yoga pants.
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You know the kind that, like,
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have the stitch in the butt.
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Yeah.
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For me to answer this question, I need you to explain exactly what the hell you are talking about.
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Oh, oh, right.
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Okay.
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So have you ever been to like, uh, I ve seen it at the Ren fair or at, um, I don t know, a different performance.
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Like you might see it at like, like variety shows or live performances where people are kind of hanging from,
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like silk fabric way up in the air.
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They kinda like push themselves up in it.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It s like a giant handkerchief and people are twirling around, right?
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It s a giant handkerchief, absolutely.
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Yeah, okay, I know what you re talking about.
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Oh, that s cool.
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Yeah, so you do that?
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I do, actually, yeah.
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I ve really been enjoying that for about a year now, I think.
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Cool.
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I like that.
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Would you ever, um, dude, you should like dangle out of a helicopter and do that shit.
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That d be awesome.
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Holy crap.
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That s really cool idea.
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So this is about what pants you should wear while you, while you defy gravity.
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Yeah, because, all right.
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So like I said, like a lot of the, you know, it s predominantly a, uh, is it a sport, a dance, a hobby?
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Uh,
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Anyways, like it s predominantly, like it s female dominated, if you will.
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And yeah, like a lot of the women, you know, they wear like, you know, like dance outfits and stuff, wear like with the tight, like leggings and stuff like that.
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And like yoga pants, stuff like that.
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But they really don t make that for guys.
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And I figured out a system, but I just kind of wanted like, you know, some extra thoughts on, I want to see what you thought of it.
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Um, listen, to to prance around dangling from a silk sheet.
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uh, I think would invite the same amount of criticism as would wearing women s clothing.
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And you, my friend, Cliff, seem as though that criticism is- is- is- is but a little- a little gnat.
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flying onto your arm that you smack and move on with your life.
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And so I don t think it matters what fucking pants you wear while you hang out of a helicopter holding onto a handkerchief.
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That s actually really insightful.
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How did you get into my brain and pick that out so easily?
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Well, cause, like, I guess I don t, I mean, I mean, here s the thing.
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This is any guy, any, any guy who s doing a female dominated activity.
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If you re a pole dancer, a cheerleader, whatever it is, I assume you re already, um, don t really care, uh, what people think about you, um, doing this.
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And so I don t see why you would all of a sudden care about what, what people think about the pants that you wear.
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You know, I mean, to be honest, most of my concern is, uh, how much is what we were going to show?
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That s pretty much my concern.
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Well, look, look, I mean, we re not, you re not showing any, it s like, it s just the outline, right?
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Yeah, pretty much.
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And I actually re kind of recently had to, uh, buy an, um,
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with a dance belt to be able to, I mean, that obscures a lot of outline and a lot of, and it gets, it gets, it gets your bits out of the way pretty darn effectively.
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I mean, look, this is, um, look, these performances, this is, you re not doing this for the Ringling bros, right?
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This is not a family event, I assume.
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Oh, that s true.
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Yeah, that s true.
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These are all grown adults who can handle a little bit of a bulge, I think.
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You know what?
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In fact, one of the places that I really kind of would like to perform eventually when I get my confidence level high enough is at burlesque shows and kind of kink-friendly dance events and stuff like that.
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I ve seen aerialists
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do stuff at those types of events.
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Yeah, those people are paying for birds.
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You gotta deliver.
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Yeah, you re right.
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Yeah, they want that.
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Should I accent my bulge?
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I don t really know what that means.
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Like enhance or maybe even decorate?
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Now you re on a different spiritual plane than I am.
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What does decorate your balls mean?
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I don t know.
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You got me thinking, man.
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Like, what if I could like, I don t know, paint it, put like a mask or something or a smile, like a yellow smiley face or like, oh man, I could cut the face off of a off of a doll, like a baby doll and put that there.
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Alright, so you ve gone from, is it weird to wear yoga pants, to, hey I ve got an idea, I m gonna cut the face off of a doll and put it on my dick.
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You know what, you ve got me thinking a lot of- You ve gained so much confidence over the course of this call, and I m very happy to see it.
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This is the effect.
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This is the geck effect.
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Hey man, I m just along for the ride, this is all you.
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Oh, wow.
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That s awesome.
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Thank you.
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Where are you?
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Where can I see?
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Where, where is this?
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What do you, where do you do this?
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Uh, I m in Charlotte.
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It actually, when you came to Charlotte recently, I held the door for you and you told my girlfriend and I that we re going to go crazy that night.
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And it meant a lot to me to get a little picture with you and stuff.
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So that was awesome.
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Thank you.
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Hmm.
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I m trying to think what, what, Hmm.
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What was it about you guys that would make me say that you, you re going to go crazy tonight?
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I,
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I don t know, but after the show, I just happened to be like by the door and we just kind of like got up and skedaddled and held the door for it.
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And you were like, I mean, I can t contact earlier.
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And I was all like, oh, I noticed me.
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And and yeah.
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And then we just said, hey, why are we meeting outside?
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And I don t know what I don t know why you said that.
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We actually had a really tame night that night.
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I wish we had gone crazy.
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Were you wearing yoga pants with your penis bulging out in them?
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No, I wasn t.
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Maybe, you know, maybe I should have.
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I have no comment on whether or not you should have, but OK, what s your girlfriend think about this?
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You have a girl.
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You re you have you re in a relationship.
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Yeah.
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For three years.
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Going great.
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She s awesome.
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Yeah.
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Use a woman in your life who loves you and whether or not you wear women s clothing.
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Isn t that because you re so lucky.
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That s amazing.
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Well, I m actually looking for like dance
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Like they do make dance leggings for men.
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I don t know, you know, cause like if you wear like women s dance leggings, there s a stitch there that man, it is not comfortable.
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Um, what does she do?
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Is she, does she play rugby?
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She, no, she, um, she does cosplay.
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She likes to make cosplay and, um, is very supportive of me doing silks and, um,
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is just the coolest cutie you ll ever meet.
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Purple hair, I don t know.
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That s a thing.
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Cliff, and your name is Cliff.
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Cliff, you got a cool life.
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Do you have any advice for me?
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How do I live?
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I want to live like you, man.
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You re doing whatever you want.
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You re in love.
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You re going out to eat.
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Why don t you honor me?
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Hmm.
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You know what?
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I think I could actually say the same thing back to you exactly.
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You are living your life.
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I m sure you re in love with things you are you have a successful show going on that you re touring with that s amazing and Man, you re just like going out some decent wisdom to people while also remaining humble.
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I Don t know.
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Maybe we both just need to kind of like keep you know, keep up the good work I guess, you know, you know what, you know a cliff you re right.
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I am awesome and I m gonna start.
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Yeah being a being a real dick about it Look, yeah.
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Well, okay
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You know what?
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I don t know if I can support that.
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I don t know why I m talking the way that I m talking to you.
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Unless you re a dick about it.
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Unless you re a dick about it while you re like decorated with a cut off baby doll head or decorated or something like that.
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You re a crazy cl- You know what?
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I- I- I- I- You know what s funny?
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I m- I m very happy to hear that when we met I said to you that you two are gonna go crazy tonight.
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Because I- you- because I- I don t know what it is but now that I ve talked to you there s gotta be something about your face that expresses your personality because you seem like the kind of guy that s- that s gonna go crazy tonight.
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I wonder.
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Yeah, well it is Friday night, so.
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So, yeah, I go crazy on Friday night.
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Cliff, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Man, the people at the computer, I just want to say, hey everyone, be you, do your thing, and man, I really appreciate everything you do for the people at the computer, of which I m one.
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And man, thanks for talking to me.
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Holy crap.
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This has been an honor.
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Thanks, Cliff.
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I appreciate it.
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And by the way, you know, if it makes you feel any better, these gecko pants that I wear are pretty close to yoga pants style fabric.
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So I bet you they are.
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You know, they re we re we re in the same boat here.
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Alright, man.
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Well, hey, keep the boys comfortable while you re sitting there.
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Thank you, brother.
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Take care, Cliff.
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Alright, take care.
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Have a great one, man.
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Cliff s a nice guy.
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I agree with what he said.
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Be you.
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You know, do what you want in this life, unless if what you want to do is kill people.
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I mean, even then, you know.
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No, actually, no, you shouldn t do that.
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You shouldn t.
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You shouldn t kill people, that s my official... You can quote me on that, you can quote me saying that.