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Hey guys, it s Spadoodle.
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You can always go to davidspade.com to look at my tour dates, because I bless a lot of cities in America with my hilarious stand-up act.
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Or you could not go to it and get on my enemy list.
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Up to you!
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Wow, guys.
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Today is a big one.
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This is...
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God, Dana and I were really pumped about Danny Aykroyd.
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He s one of the biggies that we just have talked about since the beginning.
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And even before I ever wanted to be on SNL, which was, I didn t really want to be on SNL almost until I got on SNL because I didn t think it was even a possibility.
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I dream low.
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My mom always told me, dream within reason.
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Dream about getting a new spare tire for your Volvo.
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So I was never thinking I was like a character guy for SNL and the king of the character guys is Ackroyd.
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I mean, Phil Hartman is up there, but I have to say, it s very hard to compete with that first crew, Hall of Fame crew of SNL guys and Ackyroyd love.
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and with Belushi, and there was too many things to go over, from the Blues Brothers to Coneheads we talked about.
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All that stuff, of course.
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We didn t even get to Julia Child, Bass-O-Matic, and Heather s favorite, Jane, you ignorant slut.
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I wanted to say that on my phone machine.
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Who has a phone machine?
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Anyway, that s not the point.
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The point is, he was lovely, he came into my pad,
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I showed him Farley s jacket from Tommy Boy that is on the wall.
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We did Tommy Boy together.
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We did Coneheads together.
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He was a stud.
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I interviewed him once for Spin Magazine when I was on SNL.
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He was very generous and let me do that.
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And he is a character.
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And he was doing some impressions and goofing around.
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And there isn t enough time to talk to Tanek, right?
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There s just too much.
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And what a stud.
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And he s got his vodka.
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And we talked about that.
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And we had a few knocks.
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I did, definitely, with him.
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Put a little Diet Coke in it to ruin it.
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And it was just a blast.
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So without further ado, let s get... Here s Danny Aykroyd.
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And we had such a fun time with this dude.
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I saw Chris two days ago, and he said to stay at the Chateau.
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Love, Chris.
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He must love you.
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He came over and gave me a hug.
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He said I was seeing you guys, and he was, yeah.
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He should have been more excited about you seeing us, but that s OK.
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It s great when you meet someone who hasn t become a superstar yet.
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Chris.
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Yeah.
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And if you treat them normal, they never forget it.
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If you re just reasonably respectful.
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He s pretty much of a superstar though.
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Oh yeah.
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And just boy, from what I gather, hasn t changed a bit.
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This looks like a congressional inquiry.
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We re sitting on a table like a seat in Oppenheimer.
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The podcast is actually called The Hot Seat.
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It s a surprise.
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And we welcome Dan Aykroyd to The Hot Seat.
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Heather, help him with that.
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You know how to do that?
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I ll do the side thing.
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And will you bring a crystal head vodka, is that the one?
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Do you have plain?
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Do you have any fresh squeezed orange juice in the house?
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I assume so.
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Did you ever win an award?
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Do you have any juice at all, any cranberry or any?
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You know what we might have is, it s not juice, we might have lemon, seltzer.
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Is that nothing?
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You don t have a juice like a hibiscus or cranberry
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Hibiscus?
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Yeah, that s all right.
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Put some ice in there.
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Yeah, I will.
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No, no, no, no, no, don t worry about that, no.
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But it s just if you, to sample it, it pops it better if it s cold.
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Oh, if it s cold, I ll put some ice in there.
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Yeah, put some ice in there.
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I ll try some.
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So, and please let me know, so I don t, let me know when we re rolling so that I ll do all the politically incorrect stuff now.
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We re always rolling.
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We don t have to use it, but we re rolling.
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But you always have editing capability.
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We will send you the raw tape.
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The conversation begins then.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, what you re doing there is you re pouring the mash.
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OK, go ahead.
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Let s start.
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Have you won awards for this vodka?
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Do you do a formal introduction or do we just start?
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No, we do have Dan Aykroyd.
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I start everyone as Joe Biden.
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Get your facts straight, Jack.
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That s it.
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Yeah.
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And then there was the other president you did so well and so beautifully.
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Yeah.
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You know, that was the way that eventually, yeah.
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It was a slur.
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You know, it s a Washington.
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Not gonna do it became not gonna do it.
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And in Washington now, there s a slur that is commonly used commonly for a word that is frequently employed in the trade.
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Sir, sir, sir, it s senator, senator becomes sir, sir.
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It s Sewell, Sewell, remember Sewell?
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Yeah.
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Catan.
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How genius was that guy?
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Sewell, do you remember Sewell?
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No, Chris Kattan.
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Chris Kattan, yeah.
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He did Sewell, because yeah, I m talking to him now, I m gonna tell you a story.
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You know, Sewell, the slur.
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Yeah, people slur all the time.
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Well, a little bit now, I think he, a little bit, yeah.
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Can I do a six degrees of separate?
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I don t think that s the term.
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I m in college.
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You re doing Jimmy Carter on Saturday Night Live.
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I m recording it with a cassette and trying to steal, you know, playing at the little teeny club, steal your Jimmy Carter.
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and was in awe of it, and then- To use where?
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In clubs, I was just trying to do what you guys did.
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You guys were, to me, like badass rebel pirates.
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I think of Bill Murray and you.
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That s so accurate, an analysis of us, it really is.
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Well, we were little, look at us, we re tiny people, but you guys were kind of strapping all over six feet.
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You would punch a guy or make him laugh.
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Yeah.
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And so you do, you d copy the Jimmy Carter.
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Well, Jimmy Carter, you know, he had that eye contact and a very soft way of approaching things.
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And he ended up being, you know, one of the great post presidents and really a giant figure.
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You know what s interesting about him?
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Because I became fascinated by him because he s constantly referred to.
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So I read this book about him.
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Could not understand the idea of deficit spending.
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He was like, I don t understand how we re taking this much money and we re gonna give out that much money?
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It makes no sense to me.
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But my Jimmy Carter I do now, I still do all the presidents, is that he had a nervous breakdown, put peanut butter on his head, wandered around the White House.
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Sir, are you okay?
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You got peanut butter on your head.
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No, I don t.
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I m a peanut butter man.
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I got peanut butter hair, peanut butter suit, peanut butter tie, peanut butter shoes.
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I m a peanut butter, peanut butter, I m doing you.
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But here s the thing that got me crazy.
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is when you, you were visiting SNL and then you praised my George Bush senior impression.
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So it was like 10 years later.
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So that just, you know, these things are.
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Carter was unbelievable.
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You know, he, he was a nuclear physicist and an engineer in the Navy and he helped set up Canada s reactor program.
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There was a, there was a, he troubleshooted, uh,
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went up to Ottawa, my hometown there, and troubleshooted a reactor problem they had at one point.
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In what year?
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Before President?
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Oh yeah, no, when he was, you know, in the 60s.
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I ll get back to the economy, I m going to do this reactor for the Ottawans.
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Yeah, but well, deficit spending, you know, look,
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We live in a country that is a fiat currency.
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Well, Canada as well.
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Say, you know, fiat currency, all you do is you just print more money if you need it.
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And so, you know, spending, you gotta spend the money.
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People need it.
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You gotta spend it.
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And we re doing it, yeah.
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We ve almost got a third.
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Don t let it sit on the shelf.
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No, it shouldn t.
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A third world debt load right now.
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But because we can print more,
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Why not spread it around?
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Spread it around.
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Modern monetary theory.
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Now we re getting close to a trillion in interest on that.
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Oh, I know, it s really bad.
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Pour me a little, yeah.
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A little bit of that, yeah.
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I poured some for myself.
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Now you ll notice our notes, sweet, thank you, sweet, vanilla, dry and crisp, made in Canada, no additives, no sugar.
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Can I ask you a question about this?
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Yeah, we don t have to talk about the vodka, we can talk about anything.
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No, no, I wanna talk about- We ll hop around.
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integrate into you as a performer.
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You were one of the first celebrities that made a... Oh, so sweet.
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Dan s drinking his own vodka.
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There s a mmm constant in the back of his mouth.
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Now, I ll do it.
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This other vodka, I won t mention the name sometimes.
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I m always looking for a vodka, so go ahead.
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And I knew about this.
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Okay, we have here.
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David Spade is going to take a little sip.
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Am I smelling the notes first?
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Didn t you love Johnny?
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Last night he had two slippery monkeys at the hook and crook.
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What a great Carson, y all.
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Oh, I love Johnny.
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When he died, when the joke would die, that was the funniest, the way his reactions were.
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Yeah, the deconstructing of the show.
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Dry crisp.
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You did it right to finish.
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It s it s clean.
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It s you ll do the sweetness from our corn there Yeah, and I m a vodka guy.
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Yeah David most of the other vodkas, I don t name names, but they put a lemonade sugar and they put Citrus oil they put glycol and sugar.
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You don t need that.
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No, don t eat that.
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I
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You know, if you re a bartender, you re making things where you add all kinds of additives in there, St.
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Germain, Frank, uh, uh, you know, all kinds of Burnett, Bronco, all that stuff.
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So, so you don t need, if you re a bar chef, you don t need.
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Well, I don t know the story.
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How did this originate?
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I m sorry.
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I just want to know how you- I just wanted a cleaner vodka, really.
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What year was this?
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Because this has been around- We ve been in a decade and a half in this.
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Okay.
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Now there ve been many vodkas come and gone.
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Come and gone.
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Right.
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Many come and gone.
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It s a tough game.
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And all the celebrities are doing tequila now.
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Well, many.
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You know what?
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There s 200- Sick.
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Celebrity spirits brands.
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200?
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I didn t even know there was 200 celebrities.
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200?
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I gotta get going on this.
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Yeah.
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And weren t you an early adopter?
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It seems like Sammy Hager did his tequila.
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And then I just, I just, I just began to research vodka and saw that, uh, you know, uh, that they were, uh, kind of polluting it a bit.
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And so Johnny Alexander and I came up with the idea for the skull.
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Remember him, you know, Johnny, Johnny Alexander, the artist.
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Yeah.
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Well, the skull is revolutionary.
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We met, uh, when he, uh, when his girlfriend, uh, or my girlfriend dumped me for him, Rosie Schuster, who developed Churchill a with me.
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Yeah.
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I wrote with her.
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Oh no.
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A spectacular human being.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, and a beautiful, beautiful woman from, from, I didn t know she was Lauren s ex wife.
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For like a year.
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Lauren s XY.
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Yeah.
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Well, I knew it.
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I knew and it didn t stop me, but he was very magnanimous.
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But anyway, Johnny, I got it back because not that I took her away from him.
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That was kind of over with Lauren and Rosie at the time.
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But I was with Rosie and she fell in love with Johnny and dumped me.
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Gave you the heisman.
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And now we re friends.
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Yeah.
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Now we re friends, Johnny and I. And as Rosie said to
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All three of us one night at Davis s memorial, she looked at Lauren, she looked at me, and she looked at Johnny.
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We were all sitting there like crows on a wire at Davis s.
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She said, well, at least you have each other.
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Oh, we love Rosie.
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So today we have the vodka company, Johnny and I, we re having a ball.
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It s really fun.
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You know, if you can drink moderately and respectfully, it s a good thing.
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Now, Danny, are you saying some of these, like, there s a lot of celebrities.
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I drink Urkel s tequila, which is probably the best one.
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Urkel s?
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I m kidding.
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I don t know.
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No, it sounded real.
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It probably does.
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It sounded real.
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It s probably in the works.
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I ve got Felix the cat.
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What would that be?
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It s a lager and beer.
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Yeah, Felix the Cat.
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Felix the Cat.
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You remember Felix the Cat?
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Yes, oh, of course, the bag.
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Does he remember?
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Elwood Blues is partly based on- Oh, he s partly Felix the Cat.
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He s partly based on Felix the Cat, the briefcase that has everything in it.
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Oh my goodness.
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I love Felix.
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That s gotta be brought back.
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That is a beautiful, beautiful character.
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That was one of my first animated memories.
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Oh yeah, yeah, no.
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58, 59.
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Felix is great.
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Yeah, Felix the Cat.
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He s one of the Blues Brothers, Felix.
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Yeah.
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He s black and white.
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Yeah.
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I know.
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Yeah.
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That s a mission from God.
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Yeah.
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Now listen, now when you do, when you do this, you re saying the as vodkas, they have some of those things you re saying that are in it.
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I didn t know all the words, but they might make for a hangover.
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Uh, the glycol certainly would.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So when you have too many things in it, it s not great.
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Yeah, no, no.
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Of course.
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Now you, you, you get to eight shots of this, even without the pollutants in there, you re going to, it is ethyl alcohol.
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So, you know, you gotta be kind of, uh, one of our new sponsors, I guess, is trying to mitigate that problem.
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Oh, we have one of ours that says it helps hangovers.
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But you know what?
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Oh, it doesn t have hangovers?
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It mitigates them.
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It s not vodka.
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It s saying it helps you with a hangover.
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It s not a vodka.
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Well, you know, try it.
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Yeah, try it.
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By the way, the House of Blues, Dan, you don t know this.
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You were part of the House of Blues, and it was across the street.
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I m so sad it s gone.
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They dug up the coolest place in the world, and now it s some dumpy hotel.
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that nobody cares about.
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Well, Live Nation bought House of Blues in 2007.
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How much did they pay for it?
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They paid several hundred million.
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Okay.
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Basically to save the company.
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because it had had many challenges and they came in and saved the company because, you know, the dot-com bomb 2008, all kinds of things, 9-11, all kinds of things fought against House of Blues survival and Live Nation came in and saved the company in 2,500 jobs.
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And then across the street here, the leaseholder basically wanted the building back.
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And so they just paid Live Nation, you know, some to say, we want to build our own thing here.
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And Live Nation looked at it economically and said, you know, we d have to run a restaurant here for the next 50 years to make the money that was offered.
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So I understood the decision, but it s too bad.
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They took out our beautiful bar with the steel, curved steel, and that was my office.
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I mean, I hung.
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I saw the go-go s there.
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I saw so many great bands.
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Oh, so many great bands, yeah.
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There s a hot little spot.
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There s one in Vegas.
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There s a cool one in Anaheim, Vegas.
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They re still out there?
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Oh yeah, there s 11 of them.
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And they re rocking.
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The one in Chicago is just great.
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It s a great brand.
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So another business thing you got into, it seems to me, just listening to you, it s a super creative
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expression of yourself, because the first time I met you and you sat us all, you were visiting SNL, it was me and Phil and John, my first season, we were at a restaurant.
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First thing you said was, don t be in a hurry to leave the show.
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And the second one was just about business and pay attention.
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Well, it s show business, right?
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Yeah.
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But I remembered that to this day.
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It s always great to have great advisors.
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And, uh, you know, I ve,
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Any work that I ve done that I m proud of, it s because I ve been with wonderful collaborators.
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Any success I ve had, it s consulting people who are smarter than me in many areas.
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And just the fun of working with just great people all the way through.
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Murphy and Murray and all of them.
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And Lovitz, of course, we just think of him as, as far as I m concerned, he s worth the price of admission to SNL, generally, is Lovitz.
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Justin Lovitz was there, you know.
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Why do you say that?
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That s so funny.
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I don t know where he got that character from.
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He is spectacular.
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I did this thing, it s going to be out in the next year, The World in Six Glasses.
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It s a documentary talking about all the fluids that have influenced mankind over time, and I had him on there.
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He came on and that was one of the most fun.
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Yeah.
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Huh?
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I ll do it.
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Oh, yeah.
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He s so fucking.
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Oh, no, he s just he s just always a lot.
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You put him in a wedding singer.
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He s funny.
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Yeah, I ve I ve had him in movies.
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He s great.
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No, he is.
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He is jealous.
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Yeah, that s his big one, by the way.
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Hey, I like your glasses.
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jealous yeah yeah you mentioned uh trading places and i uh i mean there s too many things to ask danak right about i know there s not much to ask other than the fawn over things but trading places was one of the those movies that just hit us hard and it was an r-rated movie and it was so fucking funny and then
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You just so I don t want to say did you know going in but you know you get to work with Eddie and Did you know him well at all or was just was it was it a gamble to put Eddie in?
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Nobody well, I think You know, he did the Walter Hill movie the Walter Hill movie and then Paramount said yeah, he d be good.
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Mm-hmm
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And somehow that pairing came together.
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I didn t know him before we started.
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Of course, it was spectacular to see that talent grow and what he did in that film.
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And when I read the script, it was so intelligently written.
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And I thought, yeah, this would be a great thing to play and have fun on, because it was certainly different from anything I d done before.
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and then Landis directing it, because we made a couple of things together.
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So all the cylinders were clicking.
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Was it kind of like a 30s screwball comedy in that sense?
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It wasn t, in a way.
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Because it was so fun and easy to watch.
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It was written by a pair of writers, Weingarten and Harris, and they wrote it.
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and corresponded, I heard, by fax machine to write it.
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And I believe they did one other film, but that was certainly their most famous and well-known one and so well done and, you know, well-directed with great actors in it.
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Yeah, that s a triple A. I m proud of that one.
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Jamie Lee is spectacular.
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She s a force of nature.
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Everything is working and you eating the salmon out of
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of your beard, I mean, I don t know if it s an ad lib or what, but those are the texture things in movies where they stick with you forever.
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I think that was, I have a beard on, I see the salmon, I m going for it.
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You know, you come into the set, you know, you re looking around, stuff you can use all the time, you know, we re desperate.
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How do I fill it with business?
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So I have this beard and there s a salmon, oh yeah.
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I don t know if it was scripted or not, but I kind of remember it being spontaneous.
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I m going to pick it up.
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I m going to go for it.
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But that s great because you look at scenes and I almost forget that we did Tommy Boy.
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Same thing, you look at a day s shoot and you go,
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Is there anything funny here?
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There s a clip on with Farley.
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We re like, in the night before, we re like, hey, can he bring a, can you guys give us a clip on just for one laugh so we can, it s all about break pads.
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It was hard to make it that everything funny.
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That reminds me of that.
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You get there, you see a salmon, you see a beard, you want to chew the beard.
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And Landis was generous with that about just grabbing things.
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So he was smart.
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He lets the performer go, you know.
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And you mentioned Farley, of course, dearly beloved, dearly beloved, you know.
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Of course, we love him.
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Gee, Mr. Aykroyd.
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Could he be more in love with Dan Aykroyd?
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It s unreal.
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I don t think so.
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Coneheads, man, Coneheads.
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He was in the Coneheads.
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He played the beautiful part.
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Oh, he was good in Coneheads.
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Yeah, he was great.
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Oh yeah, you know when he would do stuff on the set and he d move his head and we re like, that s Aykroyd, that s Bill Murray, that s Belushi.
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But the sweetest, sweetest, sweetest guy.
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Just a sweet, sweet man, yeah.
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Zelinsky, the name came back this year.
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I have a question.
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He did such great stuff with his pants.
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Pulling his pants out.
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He was so respectful and polite and a church going, you know, church goer.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We had a blast on Tommy Boy.
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I remember one night when you, we were in like a, I think you were showing us, is it where Rob Lowe gets hit in the balls?
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I don t wanna give the whole movie away, but when we were in like, we shot like 24 hours and we had some factory in Toronto.
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We got to go up there and we were getting tired.
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Magna auto parts.
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And yeah, there was the,
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the air freshener show, so many things.
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And then just to have you from the guy we love to be in the movie, and then the movie worked out.
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Yeah, it did.
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Oh, so much fun.
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That s a good picture.
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That s a really good picture.
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It is.
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The deer scene, I mean.
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Oh, God.
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That happened to Franklin and Davis, you know.
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Oh, is that deer came in alive?
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A car, it went through the windshield, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think that happens a lot, but I don t know how many times deer comes back alive.
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but that was the other.
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I think, I think, I think in their case, it might ve.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Frank was like this.
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Wow, we got a deer in the back of the car.
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Well, you ve got to be here.
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We ve got a show.
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We ll take care of the deer later.
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Oh, I got to tell them.
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Sorry.
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We had Michael McKeon on.
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Remember Michael McKeon?
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Of course.
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Yeah, of course.
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I know, his resume, it s like yours.
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It s like exhausting in a brilliant way.
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And they re making Spinal Tap again, I hope.
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Oh, I don t know.
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I wouldn t ask.
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There s rumors of,
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We don t ask the good questions.
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We just bond.
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But we were talking about Conant s.
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He was my partner in Conant s.
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And I was telling Dana that we were the immigration guys.
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Kind of the bad guys, whatever, you know.
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And it was peppered with, we didn t mention, but I think Sandler was in the movie.
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Farley had a big part.
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It was his first movie appearance, Sandler.
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Oh was it Billy Madison?
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Yeah he sold me the ID.
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That s right, fake ID, right?
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And we had Ellen DeGeneres, Drew Carey, Sinbad.
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I know, that s crazy.
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Everywhere, Peppered that place.
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If you watch it, you go, whoa, hey, oh look who that is.
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It was a very good, serviceable family comedy, and it certainly endures today, no doubt about it.
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Serviceable.
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I think that wasn t in the pitch.
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No, I love Coneheads.
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I told Dana and Michael that.
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Michael didn t know this.
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It was supposed to come out on Halloween.
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They rushed it.
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Oh, is that what happened?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Stanley Jaffe there at Paramount.
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prodded Lauren to get it ready.
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And Lauren and I were thinking, Halloween, Halloween, we need it now, we need it now.
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So it would have done better at Halloween, but it didn t, all of these things have a life now.
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Listen, people wind up seeing them.
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And when you re smoking weed and watching Saturday Night Live in 1978, they come on and they re called the Coneheads and their heads are like coneheads.
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That s the funniest thing you ve ever seen.
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When I smoked weed and wrote the thing?
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They re the Coneheads and their heads look like that.
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No, that s good.
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Yeah.
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I didn t tell, I don t know if Danny remembers, I was telling them yesterday that, right, you were probably narfling the Garthok at this point, but we were,
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Narvala Garthak, Michael and I were in t-shirt and boxers to do a scene and I was in my trailer and I said to the AD, because I was so naive and so adorable and cherubic, but I said, hey, don t tell anyone, and I can still work today, I do have chicken pox.
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And he goes, you have chickenpox.
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And I go, yeah, but it s, oh, it s here where my shirt is and it s on my legs and you can t see it.
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And I m in a scene with you and- Could have infested the whole- Oh yeah.
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And he goes, okay, hang on.
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And they go, shutting down the set.
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I m like, what s going on?
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I didn t even connect it to me.
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And so they sent everyone home and I don t even know if you re working that day, but I was like, oh my God.
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And so, and then someone goes, oh, that s going to cost the studio.
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You re in trouble.
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Everything was terrifying me to get fired.
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but wound up being a blast, but that s... Remembering you have a chicken pox way late.
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I know, you didn t get it as a kid?
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No, and I was such a weak little puss of a kid.
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I got measles knockdown for three weeks, which was abnormal.
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When you were 37?
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No, that I got when I was a normal kid.
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Okay.
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But I was very frail.
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You can t tell this athlete that sits in front of you today.
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No, that s right.
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Marathon runner.
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Marathon runner.
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Dana s a marathon runner.
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That was such a fun picture, Conehats.
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And then we had a great cast.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I m proud of that one.
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I like that one.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I mean, this is just fan type questions.
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Like when you look at... You will be spared.
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You take a dragnet, you take a... You will be spared.
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You will be spared.
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You will be spared.
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I will place both of you on the protected rolls.
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Say no more of it.
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Goodbye.
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Remember, I was behind Dave Thomas at the end.
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They brought me in for an extra scene because I, there will be, and I go, it s too bad.
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I was just mocking everything he said.
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I just said whatever.
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I turned and went with the Coneheads at the end.
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So you can order this on Amazon for like three bucks, right?
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For just people listening right now.
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Just to like shrink when you see a celebrity.
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Were there two Conehead movies or just one?
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Just one.
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Hey, listen, I would do that character in a second.
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In fact, I have a story idea, but you know.
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I m too busy now to, you know, and no one s going to listen to a story.
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How do you sleep at night?
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No one s going to want another cone heads out there.
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Paramount plus.
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No, no, no, no.
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I know the guy who runs crystal vodka, the movie.
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I m going to text him.
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Yeah, no, no, no.
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I was, I was on the Hulu there.
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I was, I did a little show called zombie town and RS Stein, you know, the author.
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Yeah.
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So it s on Hulu now, it s called Zombie Town.
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And it s like, okay now, children of America, you re going to have to learn about zombies.
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This is an introductory movie about zombies for you.
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Gentle and soft and kind of funny and a little scary.
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Yeah, so that you can step up to, you know, the world of Z. What s that Z?
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World War Z. World War Z. Oh, that was great.
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I remember Lorne asked me when his kids were little, he goes, I don t really understand Scooby-Doo.
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And I said, yeah, I don t really get why they love it.
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And it was, to your point, it was the first time when they re a certain age, it s a little scary.
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The mask comes off, there s a haunted person.
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So that was the rocket fuel for that.
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You stepped them up to the exorcist.
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That s right.
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I saw it at 17, still haven t unseen it.
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But I love Linda Blair.
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17 is even too early.
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Yeah.
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Well, we went in.
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I ve never seen it.
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You don t see it.
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I m too scared.
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I guess it s brilliant.
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It s brilliant.
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I believe in that shit.
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I m a paranormal guy like that.
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Dan, you believe in UFOs.
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I believe that they re real.
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I know they re real.
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Everyone believes in UFOs, it s just where are they coming from is the only... But of course there s... I know they re real.
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You can be a skeptic and say, oh well... I m not a skeptic, but I do have a question for you.
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where they re coming from all different species.
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There s probably dozens of them.
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Do they come from the ocean?
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There may be bases there.
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Go ahead.
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Oh, I love it.
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Tell me if there are.
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Look, I m totally, because whenever I m thinking about supernatural stuff, I always go, we re here.
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So the greatest supernatural thing is that we exist right now, talking here.
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How d we get here?
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What are we doing here?
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So I m open-minded to all of it.
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What I was curious about the United States Air Force,
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the sightings of the UFOs seem to be stuck in kind of a black and white herky jerky 1950s motif.
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Yeah.
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Can t they get more sophisticated cameras on these suckers so we can really, well, there s more footage coming out.
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Uh, and, uh,
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It is all governed now by the new office at the Pentagon that handles this.
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And it is called the all domain.
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because they go in water, they fly through water a thousand miles an hour.
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So space, sky, water, all domain, anomalous, you don t know what it is, resolution, because they have to resolve, they ve got military craft and equipment being exposed.
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So it s the all domain anomalous resolution office to figure out what they are.
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And so that s, we actually have a Pentagon department now that s working on that, or a branch that s working.
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And you know, all those sightings will be
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brought in by the military and brought in by civilians and analyzed there.
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So it s real.
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Again, your question, who, where, where are they coming from, why?
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I think a lot of them are just tourists.
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I think it s not as scary a little bit because they, and I m scared of them, even though I do.
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It s a dimensional world, but I think they,
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They would have done whatever they re going to done.
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They re already here.
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They ve been here a million times.
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They would, they can take us out if they want.
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That s why I feel a little easier.
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They re not, I don t, I don t think they re a threat.
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However, if you talk to some of the aviators down there in Marina Del Rey with fire department, the police department, the sheriff s department, helicopters, and such, they see them all the time.
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And they seem to be bugging them and flying them, flying around and like challenging them.
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Do you feel in a way, Dan, you were ahead of your time in a sense, because now it s going more mainstream.
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Yes, you were.
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With the Pentagon and it s more acknowledged.
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And you ve been talking about it for a while.
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I ve seen four of them.
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Oh, we ve seen two here unidentified.
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And my mother saw one.
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That was why I got interested in it.
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My mother saw one in 1947 and she worked in the aircraft production ministry in World War II with
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in Ottawa during the war and aircraft production for the fuselages on the hurricane.
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So she knew aircraft and she s in 1947.
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She saw one on, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, sparks spark street there in Ottawa.
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Yeah.
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Back then they worked.
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Yeah.
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I don t think they want a formal relationship with us, but they will take advantage of us using their flirty.
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Well, do you have any sense of being connected to 2001 a Space Odyssey?
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Just the idea that we were seated here by an alien race still seems of fascinating.
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Yeah.
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You know, one of the favorite movies of a lot of people at NASA is the movie that, uh,
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that was made, Mission to Mars, which had the face on Mars in it.
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That was with Gary Sinise?
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Yeah, I think so.
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Mission to Mars.
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It wasn t the one with Matt Damon.
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No, no.
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It was the one with Gary Sinise.
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This postulated that
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we were seated here and there was some help, there was some help.
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And so a lot of NASA personnel see that as a kind of a viable concept from what I ve, you know, what I understand.
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Well, of course, and everything s on the table, unless someone has all this figured out.
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Have you seen any aliens?
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Cause they have pictures of them.
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I don t, I never, no, never seen.
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But you know that people have seen pictures.
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Yeah, sure.
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Sure, no, all kinds of different shapes.
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And you know my poltergeist, or whatever you call them, experiences that are... Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, you really went through that.
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Yeah, and it was annoying to you, your experiences.
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It wasn t something you enjoyed, right?
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It was- No, what?
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Well, the one that was the, well, there s many of them, but in this house we have up in Northern California, it was built in 1912, there s three bedrooms upstairs.
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My son was in one bedroom, he was the older brother, and over time, he had a lot of waking dream states or nightmares, and he moved into his brother s room,
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just organically the younger brother.
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And so one night, and I didn t know what white noise was at this point.
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Believe it or not, I just had not used the 90s or whatever.
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So he had a boom box in the bedroom he d left.
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So I wake up to this.
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like a FM radio between channels, right?
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I m going, why is everyone sleeping?
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So I walk around and by the time I get in the room, I don t hear it.
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But it was not a waking dream state.
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It wasn t like a nightmare.
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It was just like, what the heck?
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And so that room, I also had some, when I slept in there once because company s over, I had an experience there, but I ve become less afraid of it because
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If it starts to happen, I just sort of go with it now.
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Yeah, well, it happens to millions of people.
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Hans Holzer, H-O-L-Z-E-R, he was the great Ghostbuster, and he has a great number of books dealing with all of the things that he dealt with in his career.
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Is that how Ghostbusters started, is you just got into all that?
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Well, my family was into it.
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My great-grandfather was a spiritualist researcher, and all around the house, in the cottage there that we had in the summers, which was the summer house where he lived, was full of journals and books and his writings.
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And so I was sitting there flipping through a journal from the American Society for Psychical Research, and it was an article on quantum physics and parapsychology, and I just went,
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Okay, paraphysicology, quantum physics, the real terms, the real vernacular, the real research that s being done, marry that to an old style comedy like Abbott and Costello, Bowery Boys, Bob Hope and Dean Crosby who did ghost movies.
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In fact, Hold That Ghost I think is a movie with Jerry Lewis and
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Dean Martin, and it s the first use of the term Ghostbusters.
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Somebody asks Dean Martin, who are you guys?
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We re Ghostbusters, he says.
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And by the way, just as an aside, he says, yeah.
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So that was the first use of the term.
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And it was a great tradition of ghost movies in Hollywood.
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I thought, let s marry the real vernacular, the real science, the real fact that
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that people are seriously, you know, seriously into this research with an old style comedy.
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Now, as an aside, that movie Hold That Ghost with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin, Jerry Lewis does a...
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a walk down the stairs in the old castle set that defies physics.
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The way he comes down those stairs and doesn t kill himself is amazing.
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He was spectacular.
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Was he trying to be?
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He was just coming down the stairs.
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Oh, just being.
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As like clumsily coming down the stairs.
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Not possessed or something.
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No, no, just clumsily walking down the stairs and he,
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I don t know how he didn t kill himself.
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He was a masterful physical comedian.
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Absolutely masterful.
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You hung with him unless you must ve known.
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Jerry Lewis?
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Yeah.
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Not really.
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I met the woman who played the ingenue in Cinderfella.
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Oh yeah.
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Cinderfella.
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And then I went and looked at a scene on YouTube of Jerry Lewis.
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There s a centerpiece where he s dancing around with the stairs.
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To your point, the physical comedy is breathtaking.
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Yeah.
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And it went on and on.
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He was directing it.
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You must have met him.
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I did.
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I, well, actually I met, I talked to him on the phone.
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Dean and I. Schaefer hooked him up on the phone with me one day.
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And Jerry and I, I said, Jerry, can you, can you give me a, give me a, and he on the phone, I ll never forget over the phone.
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It all comes from the Jewish Yiddish theater of the Lower East Side, the Catskills, all of that humor, the nyung, the shoulder take, the spit take, the fork drop.
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Have you ever, the fork drop s wonderful.
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You re sitting at dinner, somebody says something and bank, the fork, that s all a comedy from the Yiddish Lower East Side.
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Do you know that there s a wonderful expression for your show in Yiddish, the fly on the wall?
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and it goes, it s the flik oifterwand.
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That s how you say fly on the wall in Yiddish.
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The flik oifterwand.
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Let s get this so we have this in our promos.
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That sounds like he s making.
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It s poetic.
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So that, the ngang, he gave me a ngang.
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And all of that comes from that rich, rich tradition.
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Did you have other, um, like heroes, like did Cary Grant ever reach out to you or other supers in the seventies when you guys were exploding?
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Cause Tim Leary and Davis were Timothy Leary.
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I bought him on our friends.
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I bought the last steak dinner that he ate before he died.
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at the Marmot over there at the restaurant.
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It was already taken care of.
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And now everybody s doing it for mental health reasons.
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You know, Timothy Leary, I met Jimmy Hoffa.
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Whatever happened to him?
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That s a big one.
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Giant Stadium, that s the last I heard.
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That was, yeah, yeah.
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Well, you saw that movie with El Chino in that.
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That s rather nice.
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Lauren Bacall, I worked with her.
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I worked with Jim Garner and Jack Lemmon.
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I worked with Jack Lemmon and Jay in a movie called American President.
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And Lauren Bacall was in that.
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That was wonderful.
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Was that Pete Siegel?
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Yeah, Pete Siegel, yeah.
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And worked with all great veterans like that.
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Yeah, that s what I was curious about.
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Wow.
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Soon you intersected them.
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So neat, so neat.
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It s something special.
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When you left SNL, was there... So Chevy came, we had Chevy on here.
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He was perfectly bananas, the way we wanted.
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That s amazing.
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He was...
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We re so mad we didn t film it, it was so funny.
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He was doing schtick and stuff.
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Schticks and stones.
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His work with his fingers, if you never saw any other part of him, the work with his hands.
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I remember he did something just like, he s there, he s got the fingers walking and then all of a sudden.
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And it starts to, and you, it s just hilarious, the control.
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Yeah.
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Well, we had this here, which is like 10 bottles on a tray, and he just waited, and at a given point, he just put them all down.
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He reached for it, and it was just like, they were flying.
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Like bowling pins, yeah, perfectly.
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But he waited.
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He knew, you could tell, he knew early on.
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Yeah, that was his go-to.
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No, I love Chevy.
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No, we do too.
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And you stayed straight through.
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He was the first year of SNL, and then you stayed, how long did you stay?
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Five years?
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Four.
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Four years?
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Yeah, and the reason we left was purely and sorely because we had to finish The Blues Brothers.
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Oh, really?
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We thought maybe it was a possibility we d go back.
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We went to Chicago, then the movie went sort of early summer.
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late summer, autumn.
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But you were shooting.
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We were shooting, and we had to go back to LA to shoot some of the stuff inside.
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The church scene, the soul food restaurant, all of that had to be done in LA, and we knew we couldn t go back.
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I made the call to Lawrence saying we weren t gonna return for John.
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How hard was that?
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It was made a little easier because when Animal House was being done, they wanted me to play D-Day and they wanted me to join Landis and Reitman and John in Oregon to do that movie.
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And I just looked and I just, John s gone, man, I just looked and I thought,
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you know, I can t leave Lorne here without another, without a writer or an actor, you know?
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So I told him, I said, I m going to stay.
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And I stayed on then.
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So when we left for Blues Brothers, it was a little easier because I did stay on and I didn t leave for Animal House.
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Yeah.
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And there s like somebody, some analysts somewhere, some pundit or something said, oh, Lorne forced me to stay.
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Or was it, you know, he enforced the contract.
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Lorne is not a dictator slave driver.
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He s not like that.
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You want to go, you go.
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He s not like that.
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No.
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He encouraged.
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He wouldn t want to look thirsty like that.
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He would say, we d love to have you, but if you need to go, that would be his thing.
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Gracious Canadian.
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He fell in love with his cast members.
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He did.
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To this day, he loves comedians.
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My boys and my girls, he calls them.
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He loves them.
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When I came in in 86, because he d had that five-year hiatus, constantly references to you guys.
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And it was so intimidating to me.
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And it was like, Danny did it, because I d come up with an idea.
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Danny did that season two.
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Chevy believes.
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But you guys are the originals.
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So there is only Chevy, Danny.
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Never the last name.
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Never said Dan Aykroyd, never said Paul Simon, never said Paul McCartney.
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And look how the show s going now, so current, so relevant.
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Extraordinary.
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So extraordinary, yeah.
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When you did Blues Brothers, which is one of my all-time great ones, and I know you opened for Steve Martin at the Universal, I heard that s a bad show of the century.
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That s why there is a Blues Brothers, because John recorded the record from there.
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Goddamn.
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How do you get Carrie Fisher?
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Was she Star Wars, or was she right around?
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How does it go?
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You mean my girlfriend, you mean?
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Yeah.
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Oh, let s get into the Dan Aykroyd love line.
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No, well,
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It wasn t the Barbie part for her.
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She was good friends with John and just good friends with Penny Marshall and John.
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She was Penny s buddy and we just asked her to be a part of it and she was a part of it and then we fell in love and we almost got married.
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We had blood tests and rings exchanged and everything.
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And I was ready to spend the rest of my life with Carrie.
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And after we wrapped the movie, we got into a Lear 24 with John and Judy, and we flew to Martha s Vineyard, and we flew to this house that Judy had bought me in the vineyard to be near John to plan future projects, right?
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And I said, Judy, just buy me a house.
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I don t care.
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or what it looks like.
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It was our first check from Atlantic Records and she bought me a house and said, you re going to see your house tonight for the first time and you re bringing Carrie home.
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So I brought Carrie home to this house I d never seen and it s night and fog is like down and low and we go in and
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walk in and they flip the lights on and I could just tell that it was not to Carrie s design sense at all.
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It was a mid-50s, a lot of modern furniture, very, you know, Eames chairs and stuff.
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And she, so that night was a difficult night.
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And then in the morning, I heard her talking to Paul Simon, her boyfriend at the time before, and I could hear her talking and hear, well, I ll be there and I ll be in New York tomorrow or today.
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And I thought, oh, she s leaving.
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So I
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I said, you know, Carrie, the view is supposed to be beautiful in this house.
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You should stay.
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No, I have to get back.
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I ve got to go back to Paul.
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I ve got to go.
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I m going back down.
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Please take me to the airport.
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Nothing rancorous, sir.
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Very amicable.
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I thought it was, we thought we were getting married.
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I go, I drive her to the airport, get her on a plane, kiss her goodbye and say, I ll see you soon.
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We ll hang, you know, I love you, I love you.
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And then, you know, she flies off and I drive in the Jeep back to the Martha s Vineyard house and I m kind of despondent.
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And I walk, I drive up to the house and the fog has lifted and I ve got a 275 degree view of the ocean.
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the islands and that this beautiful, beautiful promontory that the house was on.
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I thought, you know, she d saw, saw that.
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She might ve, we would ve been married today.
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It s like Manhattan socked in.
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Oh, it s the only time we went.
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Is it always foggy?
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No, no, no.
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And so we were good friends all the way right to the end of her life, of course.
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And Blues Brothers, I think it s one of those where a lot of people want to be around funny people.
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And she s like, if I,
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And she s a big star, but it s okay.
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I m funny herself.
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I mean, hilarious.
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Brilliant, brilliant woman.
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She s great in that.
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Yeah, she s great.
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We had a ball, of course, you know, because we were making a movie and we re in love.
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You know, when you re making a movie with someone you love, you can go to work in the morning with them.
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I can t imagine the rocket ship.
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You know, I had my own little success there too, Wayne s World.
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Anyway, but you guys, I m doing a David there.
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Blues Brothers, when I first saw that, I was like, this is so electric on every level.
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So like, you re enjoying it.
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You and John, the dancing and the energy of it was like, well, this is something new, different.
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This is like really musical too.
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Like the band was kicking and then you guys were just so funny with all the shtick to me again at just a
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fantasizing about being on Saturday Night Live.
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Just those characters.
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Don t get me started with wild and crazy guys.
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Don t even start with that one.
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Come on, I don t think I can do that guy no more.
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No, you can t play around with accents anymore.
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You can t have it.
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And you can t even talk about the parts on a woman.
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The parts.
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And we look, they love our American bulges or what was it?
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Yeah, the bulges, yeah.
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Please don t.
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You will be shocked by my great bulge.
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You know, you gotta watch it these days.
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I mean, I was so influenced by you guys, rhythmically, musically.
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What about Aretha Franklin?
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Oh, she was astounding.
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Yeah, she was astounding.
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She looked so cute in that waiter s outfit.
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She didn t want to wear the waitress s outfit.
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No, I can t, I can t.
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And then Deborah Nadulman, Landis  wife, the designer, designed this beautiful
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Waitresses outfit that made her look great.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She was a sport man.
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It was even funnier that she had that on.
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So supportive of us all the way through.
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She always was and so was Ray and everybody.
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Yeah.
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And John Candy.
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Yeah.
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Another legend.
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Yeah.
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And then we had Cropper and Dunn who were Otis Redding s guitar players.
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So that made it happen.
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Now I still play with Jimmy, John s brother.
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We go out and we have an active concert schedule and we go out with a band that we got here from California and Texas that we put together over the years.
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We got a, you know, we got a couple of gigs coming up.
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What s more fun than that?
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The music and I hear that guitar and hear just the organ and, you know, move.
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And I ve got, you know, 78% of the moves left.
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So, you know.
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That s pretty good.
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Yeah.
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Last week it was 80, but it declines.
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Yeah, I m in the low 40s.
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I don t know.
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Yeah, it s not all clicking.
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Or it is clicking.
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So you re going along, there s trading places, there s Blues Brothers, there s all these stuff we get on Saturday Night Live.
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And then what s Dan gonna do now?
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And then I don t know what the trajectory was, but then Ghostbusters was like,
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Probably equivalent inflation adjusted, almost like gone with the wind or something.
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It was like 300 million in 1984.
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That s right.
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So like 300 million now.
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Oh my God.
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Titanic.
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And you thought of it, the cusp of it was you.
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That day at the farmhouse where the seances took place, where my great-great-grandfather had seances.
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from the 20s and that and I was sitting there reading that journal and I just thought Old-style Abbott and Costello comedy with the real science marry it up.
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It s brilliant.
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But who s the first person?
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What was the first person you told?
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Well, that would have been Bernie Brillstein, I guess.
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Oh.
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Yeah, Bernie.
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I love it.
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And then Ovitz.
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And then I turned a draft in to both of those guys.
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And then we went to Ivan, and Ivan got it, how it could be fixed and made what it was.
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You wrote it fat, right?
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Well, not so much lengthwise, but it was a little darker.
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It wasn t the movie you saw, but it certainly had all of the stuff in there that became the movie.
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All the elements were there.
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So, and then Ivan looked at it and then Ivan said, let s go to Harold and Harold looked at it and understood what I was trying to do here with it.
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And then, and then we decided, what do we do about Caswell?
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And then Harold and Ivan looked at each other and said, well, if we could get Murray, we will give it to Murray.
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I mean, and then, so we, we, he carried the ball for us.
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He was the master of those lines, those throwaway lines, his style.
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Probably the greatest comedy, romantic lead of our generation and maybe many, many.
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And him and Sigourney Weaver.
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Yeah.
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Very cool.
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Beautiful.
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Brilliant.
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Beautiful.
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It all came together.
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It s just magic once a film works, any film.
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But when something like that, that s old and new,
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and then just connect so strong.
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I remember going to, you know, it was like Jaws in a way.
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Huge lines, theater packed.
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It was a whole phenomenon.
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How fun to have that hit.
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And because you could have screwed that movie up easily.
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I mean, it s a great idea, but everywhere along the line, you know, any movies you go in where it s good and you go,
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God, where did we go wrong?
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The editing, the this, the casting, but to get it every step of the way, and it comes out.
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Well, look at who was on it, right?
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Harold, Ivan, the shooter.
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Rick Moranis had a great part.
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Oh, he was hysterical, too.
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Rick Moranis.
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Oh, Moranis was wonderful, wonderful.
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Him and Sigourney are big parts of why that movie works.
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Sigourney is great.
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Yeah, I know.
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Zool.
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I was on IMDb today because I could not remember who Dan Aykroyd was.
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And so I looked them up and even Ghostbusters, there s like 80 iterations.
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It s like a cartoon of this.
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There s so many.
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I think there s a new one coming out.
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Well, there s a new animated cartoon that they re working on right now.
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Okay, but is there a movie movie or not?
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I don t know what the status is with Strikes and all that.
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They re telling me not to talk about movies.
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Strike s over.
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Is it really?
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Yeah.
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Well then in March, Ghostbusters.
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Frozen Empire with McKenna Grace, Finn Wolfhard, Billy, myself, Winston, Ernie, and Patton Oswalt, thank you very much, and Paul Rudd, and Carrie Coon.
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You ve already got a cast.
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We are ready to go in March with a spectacular new release, a great new story, and it is going to be hot and really fun, scary, whole new generation, handing it to the kids.
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I m really excited.
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We completed it in England, and it s going to be coming out in March.
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Oh, so you did do it.
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It s done.
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Oh.
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It s done.
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It comes out in March.
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I just couldn t talk about it until this instant.
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I read about this and then I thought maybe something happened.
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We have a, we have a, yeah, give me that blank stare.
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Fly on the wall.
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It s our first real scoop.
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I m talking about it for the first time in any media right here.
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Yeah.
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Paul Rudd.
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You ve got Kelly Patton Oswalt.
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Yeah.
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Finn from Stranger Things.
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How about that?
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As a genius.
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He s a great, great comic actor, serious actor too.
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He is, great delivery.
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Always, yeah.
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Any name ghosts?
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We got the Tic Tac Ghost from the Navy video.
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What s the plot, Dan?
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Oh yeah, what s the plot?
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Or can you tell us?
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Well, leave us to say that an entity is found in a psychometrically charged object.
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Too much, thank you.
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That s all.
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I figured the whole thing out.
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Okay, I love it.
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I m excited.
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Oh no, it s good.
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And it s Jason Reitman?
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I m gonna do a pre-order right now online.
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Gil Keenan directed it, Jason s partner.
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I love it.
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Jason did second unit and they co-wrote it together.
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Great guy, Jason.
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And of course the kids are wonderful.
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Oh yeah.
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You know, McKenna, Finn.
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And you do, you re a guy.
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I do, you know, the, uh, the enthusiastic, uh, you know, wants to believe everything, uh, you know, uh, kind of, uh, a little kind of resentful that, that, you know, things have passed him by Ghostbuster in this one, you know, because he s no longer licensed.
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You always have that skillset of putting a lot of words together, really.
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That is true.
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Like as a comic concept, you know.
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Is that something you did as a kid?
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It s like Danny Kaye or something.
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My mother was French-Canadian and I grew up around French-Canadians.
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And French-Canadians, they speak very fast like that.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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They talk a lot, a lot fast.
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Bring me that right now.
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Give me the salt, give me the pepper, give me the steak, give me the potato.
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You want some wine?
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They talk like that.
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They re fast, the French Canadians.
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So I had this always, you know, and plus sitting around the table, there d be 14 family members.
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And you know, you couldn t get a word in unless you interjected it, injected it in there.
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So how did you go from like a 14-year-old, 15-year-old, and then you were really, were you on SNL at 21 or 22 or something?
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Well, I was 23 the first year.
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So young.
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Yeah.
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So what, just quickly, I mean, for your fans.
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Second City at 21 and 22.
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Wasn t it your late teen years, high school?
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And Lorne Michaels at 19.
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I worked with him on a CBC special at 19.
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And his show, Heart and... Heart and Lorne Terrific Hour.
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You were on that?
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It was on an offshoot of that.
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That s right.
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So you were like 18 or 19, you re on television in Canada doing sketch comedy.
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That s right, that s right, 19, yeah.
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Okay, it s called a savant.
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Yeah, well it was called a... It s called a savant.
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An early adopter.
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It was being steeped in improv.
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My parents sent me at 12 years old to Ottawa Little Theatre, improv class.
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And so I was already doing it sort of back then, you know.
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It just, it came to you.
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It s like Larry Bird, he said when basketball, he first got a basketball in his hands.
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He said, the game came to me.
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So it just came to you.
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And then you worked your ass off, of course.
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Well, I was encouraged to pursue it.
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And it was fun to do improv and that.
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And then at Second City, I was learning all the techniques over again that I d already known at 12 and 13 years old.
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at the little theater improv classes.
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Yeah.
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So started early.
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It seems to me that in your part of this, we re talking to Michael McKean and the Beatles and all the music of the 60s, and then the trundling along with Peter Sellers, and then you all kind of knew each other.
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from 70 or 75 or, you know, it s very interesting because you were like the, the Beatles of comedy to me, the SNL cast.
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Well, you had the, you had the Lampoon crew, you had, you know, Chevy and you had Chris Guest and Harry Shearer and you had, uh,
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Johnny Belushi, and then you have- Gilda.
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Gilda, eventually, because Belushi stole her away there from Second City.
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Then you had the Canadian crew, Levy, O Hara, myself, Candy, Moranis, Thomas.
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Yeah, that was- So there were two, and the Venn diagram kind of crossed, and some of those people ended up working with each other on various things.
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Yeah.
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But I think my first- Heavy hitters.
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The first time, like,
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getting interested in entertainment, okay?
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I m in grade three.
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Now, what the hell?
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In grade three, I m like, I m five years old, maybe four or five.
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No, eight, eight.
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I m grade three.
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So I go- You were 17.
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No, I was young.
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I was five or four or five, I guess, in grade three or something.
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Yes.
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So what happened?
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And so they, they were doing an Irish, uh, St.
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Patrick s day concert and they compelled me to learn McNamara s band.
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You know that song?
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Oh, Hennessey, Tennessee s tootled the flute.
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The music was something grand.
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So they put me in a green bowler and a green vest and a green pants and leprechaun shoes, put me out on stage with a sync track.
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And I, you know, they made me learn it.
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They made me stay back from school to learn it.
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And so the concert comes and we go.
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I go to the concert, and I start singing, and I m like, oh, I m just going to get through this, God.
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I remember it vividly, oh God.
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And I get to the end, and I finish, and give the tap dance finish, and
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They were howling.
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The crowd, whoa, really?
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You like that that much?
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And I m thinking to myself, oh, wow, that s good.
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And so I was the big applause, and they take me off stage into the wings.
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I give back my bowler, and I m thinking, oh, man, wow, that was very, very interesting.
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And then two of my friends, Ricky
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And Greg come up, Rick Hollingsworth and Greg Chitavas, and they come up and they say, hey, yeah, that was nothing, man.
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Like the bad donkeys in over in Pinocchio, you know, the bad, bad.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, think that was good.
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You think that, come here, come on with us.
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Let me show you something.
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Let me show you this.
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Let s show you this.
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They take me across the street to the funeral home, across the street from the church hall where I did the concert.
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So I go from the elation of singing McNamara s band and getting cheered to two minutes later, walking into the funeral home where seven bodies are laid out.
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A family that had drowned in a car the night before.
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Seven, the father, the mother, the sisters, the brother.
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God, these cock blockers don t want you to be famous.
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I go, look at this, look at this.
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And I walk in, I ll never forget that as long as I like.
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He d rolled his car in the Gatineau River and drowned.
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And so they bring me from, you know, my performance, I go across the street, euphoria to, whoa.
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But are they jealous?
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I didn t, well, there was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Namby Pamby singing and they look at these dead people.
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So they go over and there were the seven on a baby coffin too.
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Jesus, great crew.
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I didn t do any jigs for years and years afterwards.
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That s turned me right off any kind of performance.
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That s a true story.
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Isn t that weird?
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Oh, wow.
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It s horrifying.
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Seven bodies, the family, and all beautifully preserved.
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Never forget the dark eyebrows of the mother and father.
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I m still processing this story.
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Exhilaration, yeah, yeah.
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At age five, six, seven.
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They ruined it.
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They ruined it, yeah.
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So I didn t dance or sing for years afterwards.
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Weirdly, my first gig was in a funeral home, but that s a whole nother story.
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David?
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I played a dead body in that scene.
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No, you went on SNL, so you get there.
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What s your first big sketch that works?
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Is it just the very first show?
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Basimatic.
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Oh, the first sketch that works was the one that Garrett and I did as home invasionists to prove to the homeowner that their house was vulnerable.
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And so we break into their home to prove it was vulnerable, yeah.
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and then pitched them on an alarm system.
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Is that first show?
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That was the first sketch I was in, yeah.
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First show, yeah.
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And that was the Wolverine one?
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Well, the cold opening was John and the Wolverine with Michael O Donoghue.
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Oh, Michael O Donoghue.
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And then we had the home invasion sketch, yeah.
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You were after the monologue?
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After the monologue.
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Oh, that s a good spot.
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That s the home run spot.
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Who was the host of your first show?
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George Carlin.
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George Carlin.
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George Carlin, I waited on him once at a Holiday Inn.
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I brought him oatmeal, he goes, oatmeal, drop the O and you have that meal.
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Did he really?
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Yeah.
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Why is there no blue shoes?
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Look at your shoes, big shoes, little shoes, brown shoes, girl school shoes.
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He was working on a bit.
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Don t tell me about Richard prior to.
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I was a waiter at the Holiday Inn, I waited on all of them.
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Oh, because it was next to the Circle Star Theater?
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Yep.
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Waited on Rich Little.
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Everyone said, which holiday in Highland?
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Oh, no, this was on the peninsula.
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It was a theater in the round, uh, like be near Michigan.
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No, no, Peninsula, south of San Francisco.
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Oh, I saw San Francisco.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I see, right.
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And they all stayed at the Holiday Inn.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So they were, you know, I gave Richard Pryor a damn romblet, stuff like that, you know.
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Yeah, well, you know, I find the great people are really nice.
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The ones who are really great are nice.
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And the medium talent people aren t so nice, you know.
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I ve kind of, I think that s true.
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You know, he was a great Richard, well, Pryor and Carlin, they were both, yeah.
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And they would have been gracious to you.
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Very nice, I did a movie with Pryor.
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He was very sensitive and sweet and vulnerable.
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Did he host when you were there?
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What s that?
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Did he host?
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Richard Pryor hosted, sure.
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I remember helping to write that show.
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Oh, right, sir.
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Fair enough, sir.
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What s that?
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That s right, yeah.
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I think I was doing Harry Shearer doing Tom Snyder.
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He did a great Tom Snyder, really.
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Oh, really?
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Outstanding, outstanding.
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Ah, Tom, mm, everybody.
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I remember seeing, I love Tom Snyder.
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I was a kid, I didn t even know, Dan, I m so young.
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No, I m not.
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But I was watching it going, I never thought of being on Saturday Night Live, I just was, every kid loves comedy.
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And I was like, oh my God, and that s Tom Snyder.
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I was just starting to get,
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why it was so funny.
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I didn t really get the depth of how funny it was.
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I m like, that s like the guy I just saw.
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And it was so good.
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It was like that dumb little studio and it s a little light and you have a cigarette and all that stuff.
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I mean, Fred Garvin, was that, was his name Fred Garvin, male prostitute?
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That s right, little lady.
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Is it for the lady?
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Yes, little lady.
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The name is funny at the time, because that sets his title and he announces himself that way.
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But you know, the copycats and Rich Little in that generation, Frank Gorshman, and those are the shows I was watching.
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Oh, I love those impressionists, Rich Little, Fred Trevelina.
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Oh, that s right.
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Extraordinarily gifted.
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Yeah, they were great.
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That was like magic to me.
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But when you guys came in and did them in a different
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a different context.
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It was just postmodern.
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Yeah.
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You know, it s just a lot of great impressions on the show for Hartman was spectacular.
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And we ve, we ve referenced you and Phil, there s a connection personality wise.
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So you both have so many interests outside of being
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quasi-effortless performers and then would go read these journals.
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He was a pilot.
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Yeah, he s a pilot.
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He was sailing.
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I loved him.
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I loved him, too.
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He was wonderful.
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You did Bilko with him, right?
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Yeah, that s right, Steve Martin.
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Yeah, here s to Phil and Chris.
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Chris, John.
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And a lot to be thankful for at this time of year, Thanksgiving and Christmas.
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The old vodka there in the skulls is available in stores all over the nation.
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All over the world.
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If you want to get a gift out to a friend.
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The coolest bottle you ll ever see.
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Well, it makes a great gift.
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That s why I m on this kind of little tour here, because it s gift-giving time of year, and we want to remind people that Thanksgiving and Christmas, there s a gift you can bring home.
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And, you know, everybody wants to get ahead.
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That s it.
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It takes a second.
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Get head or get a head.
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But where do you get it?
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Is there a website?
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Is there?
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Worldwide web, crystalheadvodka.com.
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It s in most liquor stores across the country, chains and otherwise.
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Yeah, Crystal Head.
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And I think it s got a pretty big brand name.
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Yeah.
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I think people really are aware of it, but it s always good to start a podcast.
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It s got a lot of room to grow.
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Because there s a lot of people.
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A lot of room to grow, so yeah.
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See?
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The bottle should be on your shelf if you have
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It just looks cool.
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It tastes good.
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It should be on every bar in the world.
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And Crystal Head, just a few seconds before we get out of here, how d you come up with that name?
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Well, it s based on the legend of the Crystal Heads, which- From Indiana Jones?
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Was referenced in the Indiana Jones movie, and they made a movie about it.
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In fact, we were developing the concept kind of right in parallel, and I find out that Stephen s doing this movie.
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about crystal heads.
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So I actually called him to take a meeting to tell him, you know, we re not copying your enterprise here.
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We started at the same time and it takes two years to build a project like this.
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And so.
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I said, well, you know, when your movie comes out, we will be out on the marketplace.
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We will have been out a little before, but, um, I explained to him that we, and it wasn t kind of a plagiarism and it wasn t really, um, uh, crystal had, uh, there were 13 of them.
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What if he stole it from you?
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Uh, I don t know.
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The lead time doesn t work out in terms of like when the, both projects came to fruition.
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But the Navajo, the Aztec, the Mayans were supposed to have had these heads and they were used for crystal balls.
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And so we decided we were doing this vodka that had no fluids that were pollutants, glycols, sugar, lemonene, clean.
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And so we wanted to sell the idea of enlightened, purified drinking of beverage alcohol.
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And this was the perfect package to put it in, yeah.
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Yeah, it came from that.
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I have one more question before this young man takes off.
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During that, when you leave SNL, you did a lot of big movies.
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You probably got offered so many ones that you wish you did, or those are movies that you got offered?
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other than James Bond?
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Spies Like Us?
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Oh, Spies Like Us was so fucking great.
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I don t know that I was offered anything that I turned down and it became, no, I don t think so.
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No regrets where you go, oh, I should have done that one.
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Spies Like Us was unreal.
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That was you and Chevy.
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Yeah, I did audition for things that I didn t get.
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The People versus Larry Flint.
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I auditioned for the part of the lawyer played by,
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Edward Norton, and I auditioned for Milos Forman, you know, and I read it a couple of times.
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Don, Don, do you work with him?
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I auditioned for Amadeus.
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Oh, did you?
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Yeah, Don, Don, Don, Don, Don.
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Stop acting.
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Oh, really?
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Stop acting.
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He was too bored with me, I don t know what he just said.
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I think we re ready to move on.
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Yeah, yeah.
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During yours?
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Well, I didn t know what I was doing, but I did, I saw the movie and I go, okay, I see.
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They wanted a blonde haired cherubic guy.
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Yeah.
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Boy genius.
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Did you go off script and do chopping broccoli?
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No, but I,
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I wanted to be on Saturday Night Live.
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Yeah, I know.
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That was my thing.
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And you guys did, and you were great.
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And today, your stuff endures just as strongly as anything that we ever did on that first cast.
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If you look at Church Lady and all your impressions and everything, and your flight attendant, of course, Klaus.
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A classic, a classic.
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All of it, all of it great.
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My theory is this, is that music and comedy just have to reflect the times.
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And so we were for our time.
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And then I don t ever want to be a grumpy old man about Taylor Swift.
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She s no John Lennon, you know, that kind of thing.
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I said, and tried to really do a deep dive into Taylor Swift, because I want to know, and she s incredibly skilled.
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And same thing with Saturday Night Live now.
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This is their era.
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And they re great.
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And they re great.
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And Higgins said, Steve Higgins, he said, Lorne wrote the Constitution, and then everyone interprets it for their time, for their era.
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No, the show s been really great.
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The Halloween show was
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outstanding writing, really, really very smart.
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We had him on the podcast a couple days later.
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Yeah, he was a great comic.
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He s a really good writer and he s so excited about that.
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He d only done talk shows.
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Quality work, all of it.
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That s nice, you still watch.
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Oh yeah, well, when I m awake, I mean, I
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I live a very, very quiet life right now, very quiet.
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I m not in the cities, I m in the country.
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I used to have a Grand National that was pretty sweet.
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Yeah, right, right, the old Black National, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, Black Grand National.
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Do you have a little pastry store you go to and everyone knows your name kind of thing and nobody asks for anything?
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Oh, yeah, I ll go in on the motorcycle or take one of the old, you know, the old cars in.
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It seems to me, just from afar, you ve always had one foot still in whatever you call regular life.
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I would say so, yeah.
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Recycle friends, get a steak.
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I don t know, I ve heard things, but it seems like you ve always kept that.
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Oh, sure, sure.
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Well, of course, for sanity, yeah.
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But I don t like living in cities anymore.
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I prefer to live in the country, just because I have tinnitus, you know, the ringing, and also to sleep at night, the blackness.
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You need the blackness to sleep.
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And where I have a place?
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the mountain air is coming in, and I can open my eyes or close my eyes.
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Black.
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It s still black.
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Black.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And dead quiet.
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All I hear is the coyotes sometimes throw a party, but it is so.
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So good.
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The deep sleep you get there.
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It ll prolong life, that sleep.
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It really will.
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Mine s being short, and I m about 40 feet from sunset.
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Yeah.
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Uh, it s quiet and this is a fortress here, David.
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This is where we want to be during the great reset.
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Plus he s got a lot of food.
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He stocks a lot of food.
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This whole thing.
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Um, Dan, first of all, we, we, we ve all looked up to you.
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We, we, we, you re a lovely guy.
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You re always nice to me.
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I interviewed you for spin magazine and I got an SNL and you re so cool.
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And just the fact that you still,
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generous, everything, and talking to us.
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We love just bullshitting about the old days.
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Yeah, you know, there is an expression, Canadian nice, and I went to Canada once and did a gig, and there is Canadian nice.
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There s Minnesota nice, but Canadian nice was like, I was just at a table before I was gonna go out there, and a guy was like, he saw me look at some water.
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Hey, would you like some water there?
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I can get some water for you.
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So there is Canadian nice, and Mike Myers yourself, and it s very sweet, and my wife s Canadian, so I m impartial.
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She s very nice.
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Sure, sure.
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She listens to the podcast.
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I just did Calgary last weekend and it was nice.
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Yeah, it s just Canada is just a cool country.
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Not a rumor, it s real.
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Yeah.
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Thank you, Danny.
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So anyway, Dan, it s been such an honor and a pleasure.
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You ve been a big part of the puzzle of our little project here and we re so glad to have you.
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We ll hang again soon.
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Yes, see you around campus is what I say.
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Okay, take care.
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Let me slam my crystal head just for you.
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David has quietly gotten drunk during the podcast.
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David is hot.
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David is messed up.
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The stuff works.
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Oh boy.
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This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13.
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