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Now, I sometimes get a little nostalgic.
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I get a little reflective and introspective.
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And I wanted to share with you, I believe it s the first ever podcast public interview I ever did.
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And I always like to remind myself not only where I started, but why I m doing what I m doing and the intention that got me to where I am.
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And listening to this episode, I really feel so connected to that purpose.
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I think this was one of my favorite interviews I ever did.
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It was with my friend Tom Bilyeu.
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I think the questions you asked were so powerful and I hope that you get to hear answers in here that support your journey, to find it your passion, to finding your purpose, to having meaningful relationships.
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So I can t wait for you to listen to this one.
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Share it.
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Absorb it.
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Pass it on.
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Thank you so much.
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Often the advice I give to people today is fast forward where you are, look at yourself in 10, 15, 20 years time and ask yourself the question, is that where I want to be?
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And if the answer is no, then you need to find a new path to just get to understand yourself.
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You don t know what you need in your life until you figure out who you are.
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Hey everybody, welcome to Impact Theory.
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You are here, my friends, because you believe that human potential is nearly limitless, but you know that having potential is not the same as actually doing something with it.
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Our goal with this show and company is to introduce you to the people and ideas that will help you actually execute on your dreams.
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Today s guest is a former monk whose wisdom has truly gone viral.
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After finishing business school, he turned down lucrative offers from prestigious companies, shaved his head, and hit the road.
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For three years, he traveled across India, Europe, and England living as a monk, studying, meditating, and building food and shelter programs for those in need.
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He was definitely in love with what he was doing, but he knew that it didn t scale.
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So, driven by a desire to share what he was learning with as many people as possible, he re-engaged with the world and dove head first into learning about the tools and techniques that might allow knowledge to spread as fast as entertainment.
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And to that end, he joined Accenture, helping them build their digital division while learning about the forces shaping the new digital landscape.
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He learned
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fast, and quickly became their number one social media influencer in a company of 400,000 people.
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Along the way, he also helped advise over 150 executives on their personal brands, allowing him a very broad base with which to test his theories.
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Leveraging what he learned, in 2016, he launched his own Facebook page, and it exploded.
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In less than 12 months, his inspiring, entertaining, and highly useful videos garnered over one
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billion views, and now he has north of 2.5 million followers globally.
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He makes content not only for his own pages, but for places like the Huffington Post, and he has interviewed such luminaries as Tim Ferriss, Simon Sinek, Dr. Shafali, Deepak Chopra, and countless others.
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In the wake of his ridiculous level of success as both a content creator and digital strategist, he was named to Forbes 30 under 30 list in 2017, the Asian Media Awards named his blog Best Blog in 2016, and he was added to National Geographic s Chasing Genius Council for which he is now helping to source solutions to some of the world s greatest challenges.
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So please, help me in welcoming the urban monk himself, the man who is proving that you really can scale impact, Jay Shetty.
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Thanks for being here, man.
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Thanks for having me.
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Dude, truly an honor.
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Oh, man.
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Thank you.
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It goes both ways.
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As I was telling you before we started rolling, in my research, I normally just go watch all the interviews that people have done, and I ve come across you a million times in researching other people, so I thought, oh, this will be the easiest thing ever.
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This guy will have been interviewed a hundred times.
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and you haven t.
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It s insane to me.
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You re pumping out so much content, nobody s nabbed you up yet.
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This is gonna be really fun to really go deep.
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Your ideas are clearly very well thought through, so this should be a lot of fun.
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Thank you, man.
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Yeah, I m patient.
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Patient of having the right interviews, the right time, being with the right people, having it be framed correctly.
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I m very honored to be here.
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I m a huge fan of the show.
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Thank you, man.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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One thing I want to talk about, obviously, having lived in London, knowing a little bit about what it s like to grow up as an Indian kid in England.
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How on earth did you buck the trend of you once said growing up in in an Indian household?
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You re either a doctor a lawyer or a failure.
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Yes, that s right.
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Yes, so How like how did you not fall prey to that?
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Yeah, those are my three options, right?
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That was it.
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There was no fourth option.
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So according to my parents family or the community I grew up in I m a failure that s crazy and How did I buck the trend?
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I was really, really fortunate that very early on I started to experiment with what mattered to me.
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Sometimes that got me in a lot of trouble.
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What people don t know about me is that I was suspended from school three times for trying out all sorts of things, like things that people would never imagine of someone who goes on to be a monk.
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Experimenting with all the drugs in the world.
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I had multiple relationships.
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I was really trying to search for some sort of meaning Fulfillment and as far as long as I ve known I ve been chasing thrill I really value thrill and feeling like I did not see that coming
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Yeah, no, not many people do.
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It s very different.
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From 14 to 18, I was like this kid who just wanted to try new things out.
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My parents  rhetoric would always be, well, make sure you get good grades.
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I used to think, well, if I can be bad and get good grades, then it all works, right?
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Everyone s happy.
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That s kind of what I did.
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At 18, I was really fortunate when I met a monk.
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And this monk was invited to speak and I kind of just went because one of my friends forced me to.
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At that time I was listening to CEOs and entrepreneurs and business people and marketers who I thought that s what I was aspiring to be like.
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And then I hear this monk.
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And he captivated me like no one had ever captivated me before.
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It was like staring at the most beautiful woman on the planet.
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I was completely fixated on him and his message.
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And that is the beginning, without me going into too much detail before we probe.
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That was the beginning of what changed me.
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Because I went from being someone who did only want all those things to become successful and trying to, but I started hearing my own inner voice much more in all that noise that I had around me.
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I remember one of my, my parents had a maths tutor for me because they wanted to be amazing at maths.
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And I was pretty good at numbers and I d have this tutor and he d tell me that, he goes, the reason that you re struggling with the next question
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is because you re always worried about what your parents think.
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And that really stayed in my head.
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I was just like, wow, so as long as I m trapped by what my parents think, I can actually never find the answers to the real questions of life.
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And there were all these little things happening.
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I lost two great friends when I was 16.
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One girl died in a car accident.
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One guy died because he was involved in drugs and violence.
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That made me rethink everything.
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I just thought to myself, wait a minute, these were beautiful people, people that I loved, people that, in my opinion, were good people.
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And I just lost them in a moment and it was kind of like this
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of little things that just made me think, wait a minute, having money, having fame, this, that just doesn t seem to add up.
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And then meeting the monk kind of made that shift possible.
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And as I said, he was completely captivating.
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And then I found out that he d given up jobs in Google and Microsoft to be a monk.
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And I thought to myself, who does that?
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You know, he s given up everything that I m chasing and that all my friends are chasing, but he seems happier than anyone I ve ever met before.
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And he spoke about this incredible principle where he said that we should plant trees under whose shade we do not plan to sit.
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And he was speaking about this principle of selfless sacrifice.
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And that kind of just penetrated me right there.
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When he said the words selfless sacrifice, for the first time in my life I felt a thrill about something that I d never felt before.
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I thought, wow.
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giving up everything you have for the service of others sounds like the best thing you could possibly do.
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And I don t know why I had that thought, because I wasn t a spiritual kid growing up.
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I wasn t a religious kid growing up.
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I wasn t even a good kid growing up.
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I was just a rebel, a misfit, trying things out, an experimenter, which I still consider myself.
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And so what I started to do is I was interning
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at companies and firms and corporates thinking I was getting a grad job afterwards.
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Then I d spend the rest of my summer holidays interning in India, living with him as a monk.
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I d use all my summer and Christmas holidays to just be out there with the monks.
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He introduced me to another 200 to 500 monks that were just like him, just as smart, just as bright, giving up everything they had and using all their skills to make the world a better place.
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Tom Bilyeu I want to go back.
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to why that resonated with you, which is really surprising.
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Maybe you re just so far ahead of where I was at the time, but that would have sounded absurd to me at that time.
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Did you already have a sense of unease that I m a rebel without a cause?
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What was it about that moment?
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You seem very aware of yourself.
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I m hoping that some of that awareness is present then.
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What was that moment?
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I believe the moment was I ve always had friends who are older than me.
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I could see a lot of them in the most successful careers, successful jobs, beautiful partners, whatever it was, but I saw a sense of lack of fulfillment, meaning, and purpose in their lives.
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I ve always been an observer, and I would see these people who are five years older than me, seven years older than me, maybe 10 years older than me.
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I d be watching them and go, is that the life I want?
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Often, the advice I give to people today is fast forward where you are, look at yourself in 10, 15, 20 years  time, and ask yourself the question, is that where I want to be?
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If you re in a company, look at the person who s 20 years ahead of you and ask yourself, is that where I want to be?
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If you re in a startup, look at where other startups have got to in similar roles and go, is that where I want to be?
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If the answer is no, then you need to find a new path.
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For me, the answer at that time from observing was no.
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The path that my parents or society or the university I went to or the community I had that was carving out for me
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Didn t feel like the path for me.
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So I was almost seeking an alternative or a new path I was just so fortunate that it happened to be an uplifting powerful path as opposed to something that could have actually taken me down the wrong road because that could have been possible to
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Walk me through the first time you step off the plane in India.
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It s summer and so I m living there I m waking up.
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I m almost doing all the practices just as if you were shadowing a CEO I m just shadowing a monk.
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And so I m just shadowing his lifestyle.
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So we wake up.
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He s he s like one of the most elite monks So we re waking up at like 2 a.m.
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Every day after sleeping at like 9 or 10 p.m And then we study these ancient Vedas which are 5,000 plus years old together and we spend two hours and I m studying with the best of the best here so
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He can like analyze and assimilate and I m learning fast taking notes then 4 a.m.
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We go to collective meditation We do those practices with the other monks as well 6 a.m.
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We have personal meditation So I m literally going through the life of a monk and falling in love with it step by step going Wow I ve never had this experience before I just threw myself in and I was practicing it to the T and
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It wasn t like, oh no, my back hurts when I sit on the floor, I can t stay here for too long.
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Today, when people are like, oh, I can t meditate for longer than two minutes, I was like, no, I m going to do it for two hours.
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If that s what they re doing, I m going to give it a go.
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Because I can only test, the hypothesis will only be true if the experiment is carried out to the degree that they are.
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If the hypothesis is, if you live like this, you ll are happy, more fulfilled, then I want to do that.
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All right, so let s explore this then through the lens of creating one s own perfect life, which is pretty interesting, especially because ... Interesting because I think this is so accurate to the way that most people are.
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It s not like, oh, there s some grand missing thing in my life, but you took that first action.
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Codify this for me or for anybody that wants ... They don t know what their ideal life looks like.
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They just know that they re not living it yet.
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So, step number one is take it seriously.
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To find out if the hypothesis is true or not, you have to take the experiment, you have to do it sincerely.
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What comes after that?
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I think even one step before that is opening yourself up to new role models and new experiences.
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See, we live in echo chambers.
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We re just surrounded by the same thinking.
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How often do you bump into a monk?
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It just doesn t happen.
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No one has a dinner party and goes, oh yeah, we just invited the monk from town, the local monk.
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No one ever does that.
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We meet people who are just like us most of the time.
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We talk about this in business all the time.
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If you want to be a billionaire, spend time with billionaires.
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If you want to be a millionaire, spend time with millionaires.
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If you want to be a tech startup, spend time with ... That s the common rhetoric that we hear all the time.
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What if you want to find purpose and master the mind?
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There s no one better than a monk who s mastered the mind.
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So for me, the first step is just opening yourself up to new experiences and new role models.
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Because most of us can t see ourselves in people, so then we try and fit ourselves into the boxes that we do see.
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And I mean, there s this beautiful quote that I ve been saying it everywhere and I wish I wrote it, but I didn t.
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So it s by a philosopher and writer named Cooley.
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And he said that today, I m not what I think I am.
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I m not what you think I am.
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Am what I think you think I am I?
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And just let that blow your mind for a moment.
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It s a it s so powerful.
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I m not what I think I am I m not what you think I am I am what I think you think I am so we live in this perception of a perception of ourselves and
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Hence, my identity is made by what my parents think I should be.
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My identity is made up by what my college or university thinks I should achieve.
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While you re living in that bubble and that echo chamber, getting to what you really want to do is impossible because maybe that just doesn t fit.
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I think so many people feel that way today, that they don t fit into the current education system.
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They don t fit with the three or four or five careers that you re taught exist.
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So that process of self-excavation and actualization first requires being exposed.
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You can t be what you can t see.
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If I never saw a monk, I would never have wanted to be a monk.
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If I never meet a billionaire, I wouldn t want to be one because I wouldn t know what that feels like.
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I don t know what it looks like.
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I don t know what it takes.
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And I think that s the biggest challenge of our society, that we re not exposed.
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So that s the first step, being exposed to unique experiences and role models.
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Second step is finding that experience or role model that you re passionate about, and exactly like you said, taking it seriously.
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Shadow them, network with them, spend time with them, observe them, even from afar.
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It takes that observation, being addicted to observing that person s lifestyle.
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And then the third step is going yes or no.
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Does that work for me?
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Not everyone who s gonna go off and become a monk is gonna feel like the way I did, and that s cool.
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But not everyone is gonna go and follow and shadow a billionaire and go, that s exactly the lifestyle I want.
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They may want the result, but do they want the hard work that goes with it?
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And so for me, that s the third step.
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It s observing, focusing, shadowing, getting as close to the process of that individual, and then going yes or no.
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Do I want that process?
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not do I want the result.
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Everyone wants to be that monk who s fully enlightened, can walk through, has an incredible aura that people just gravitate towards, but when you realize he has to wake up at 2 a.m.
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every day and sleeps about four to six hours, you re like, ah, I don t want to do that.
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That doesn t sound like me.
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Tom Bilyeu All right, so a couple things.
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One, you said he s as powerful as he is.
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Define power for me.
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Power being, so from a monk s perspective, the greatest power is to be self-controlled.
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To be able to train the mind and energy to focus it exactly where you want it and when you want it to be.
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You are completely detached and undeterred from external ups and downs.
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You re able to navigate anything that seems tough, challenging, fun, excitement, with the same amount of being equipoised.
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and balanced and equanimity without being too excited in pleasure or being too depressed in pain.
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But knowing how to navigate every situation, to me that s great strength and great power.
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I heard in one of your talks you were saying that if you look at a literal lifeline, a heartbeat for instance, it s up and it s down and people have this sense that something like enlightenment would be the equanimity forever and just an even keel.
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You said, but what does that resemble?
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It resembles a flat line when you die.
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What I love about you is you sort of went into the wilderness of being a monk, but you brought it back to the real world.
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When you talk about a monkey, talk about them being detached, and that to me seems like the only real way to have that super even keel existence, which is not appealing to me personally.
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If you re bringing back that notion of power of having control over yourself, not letting your emotions take you everywhere, but knowing that life is the series of ups and downs, what does that power look like when it s brought back?
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Absolutely.
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Actually, that s the whole aim of monk training.
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It s more like a training system than it is a lifelong commitment.
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It is bringing that mindset into the real world where you get to test it.
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Now, I got to do that for real when I left being a monk around five years ago.
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When I left, it was like, oh my God, I m in the real world now again, real world.
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I have to think about how to apply all this.
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I m going to test for real.
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All this stuff that I ve learned and I was scared like I was nervous.
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I was anxious and all those things that I ve been trained not to be rushed back because For the first time in my life.
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I had to really put it into practice and I love that feeling I m so glad that I had to do that.
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So for me, actually the mindset is completely
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Trainable to bring into the real world.
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That s that s what I m trying to do And and what it allows you to do is it allows you to bring clarity and perspective when you need it Because you know when you can just take a bird s-eye view from something, you know when you need to get close into something You know when you need to pull back from something.
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There s a beautiful verse in the Bhagavad Gita that says that
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Detachment is not that you own nothing Detachment is that nothing owns you and I love it because to me that summarizes detachment in a way that it s not usually explained Usually people see detachment as being away from everything Actually, the greatest detachment is being close to everything and not letting it consume and own you and that s real power.
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That s real strength How many people do we know that have had fame and then that fame has ruined them?
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so for me that definition of detachment is
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Possible to practice even in the real world rather than saying oh, I m just gonna have a really simple life I m just gonna have nothing in life What was the best part about being a monk the best part about being a monk is that your?
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Morning routine and practices are so powerful that you can actually aspire for more incredible values in life
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Because your mind is clear.
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Because your mind is clear and you have that ability to have more clarity so you can seek that which is higher.
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I ll give an example of what I mean.
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Define, is that what you re about to define, what is higher?
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Yes, exactly.
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Being able to overcome ego, being able to overcome envy, being able to overcome jealousy, being able to overcome the negative of competitive state.
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There s a positive competitive state and there s a negative competitive state.
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Today, when people are looking on Instagram or Facebook or YouTube, all you re looking at is, oh, she got that many likes, or he got that many likes, she got engaged, or he got married, or, oh my God, look at her body, or look at that.
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And it s like, that stuff s destroying us inside.
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Envy, jealousy, ego, greed.
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to be able to have enough clarity to purify yourself of those things is going to alleviate the biggest anxieties and depressions of our time and mental health problems.
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And we know that.
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We know that because all the mental health research today suggests that things like isolation, overexposure, we now can have more pain consumption in one day because of what we re exposed to than the pain we would have had in a lifetime.
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That s huge.
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Stress, anxiety,
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Overwhelm Burnout What do all of these have in common?
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A lack of perceived control over your time, thoughts and tasks.
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But what if I told you fixing all of these problems is as simple as fixing your mindset towards them?
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I know, not simple at all.
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Everyone s busy, everyone s stressed, but we could all use more calm in our lives and learning to stay grounded and grateful is truly a daily practice.
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When you find that bright spot to help you get through your day, it s powerful.
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That s where The Bright Side comes in.
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A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that s bringing you a daily dose of joy.
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I m Danielle Robay.
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And I m Simone Boyce.
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Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters.
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We ve covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy, but The Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new and get into some friendly debates.
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That s right, join us five days a week to see how life can look from the bright side.
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We ll hear from celebrities, authors, experts, and listeners like you.
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Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine every weekday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I m your host, Gabrielle Collins.
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And this season, we are bringing fans even deeper into the ton.
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Colin Bridgerton has returned from his travels abroad.
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Is Betrothal written in the stars for the eligible bachelor?
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Meanwhile, the ton is reverberating with speculation of who holds Lady Whistledown s pen.
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We re discussing it all.
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I sit down with Nicola Coughlin, Luke Newton, Shonda Rhimes, and more to offer an exclusive peek behind the scenes of each episode of the new season.
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Guess what, Mango?
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What s that, Will?
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So iHeart is giving us a whole minute to promote our podcast, Part-Time Genius.
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I know, that s why I spent my whole week composing a haiku for the occasion.
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It s about my emotional journey in podcasting over the last seven years, and it s called Earthquake House.
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Mango, I m going to cut you off right there.
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Why don t we just tell people about our show instead?
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Yeah, that s a better idea.
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So every week on Part-Time Genius, we feed our curiosity by answering the world s most important questions.
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Things like, when did America start dialing 911?
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is William Shatner s best acting work in Esperanto.
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Also, what happened to Esperanto?
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Plus, we cover questions like how Chinese is your Chinese food?
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How do dollar stores stay in business?
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And of course, is there an Illuminati of cheese?
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There absolutely is.
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And we are risking our lives by talking about it.
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Listen to Part Time Genius on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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That s ridiculous to think that in one day because of the media news and social media We consume more negative than we did in a lifetime for me being able to have time energy and clarity to focus on self purification That is the best thing about being a monk because you have that time reflection and a process and an environment that only allows you to become more purified of those things and
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If I was the interviewer that I wanted to be, I would have asked you this question when we were on the topic, but I m going to go back just because it s important enough.
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You gave us the three ways that you can really construct your ideal life, but define an ideal life for me.
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An ideal life for me is a life, and this applies to a company, an organization, an institution for me.
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And I do life is when we all have a head a heart and a hand all three elements together Working in alignment without one or the other we start to lose something if you only have a head and a heart You ll find that life is stable and define.
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Sure So a head is the clarity of vision what you want what you want and
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Knowing what you want the way you picture life and being able to navigate and make the decisions to get there That s a good head a good heart is being able to understand what your intuition and heart wants being able to connect and tap into that Understanding deeper and beyond the vision you may have painted for yourself so I often say to people that you ll get to where you want in life just not in the way you imagined and
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And that s because the path that s paved up and down is far different to the path we pave.
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So you can have a great head and a great vision and a great mission and know where you want to go.
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But if your heart s not able to have that resilience and be able to adapt.
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and have compassion and care and all of that, then you re not gonna be able to make the toughest decisions without your heart.
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But to be able to realize that we need to care and be sustainable and long-lasting requires a heart.
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And a hand is that service, wanting to pass that on, that which you have, wanting to give it forward, pay it forward.
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The idea of serving with what you have, I often say to people, your passion is for you, your purpose is for others.
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Your passion makes you happy, but when you use your passion to make a difference in someone else s life, that s a service, that s a purpose, and that s the hand.
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So those are my three elements of an ideal life.
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I like that a lot.
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When you first said it, and I m glad you defined it, because when you first said it, I thought the heart was going to be the part about just compassion and caring for others, doing something for other people.
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I like that, the hand being tied to service.
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One thing that I think a lot about is deep fulfillment.
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Really, when I think about, okay, what is a life we re living?
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Honestly, it comes down to neurochemistry for me.
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It comes down to
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experiencing this world in a way that optimizes for sustainable pleasure, which I ll differentiate between a bowl of ice cream, a bump of cocaine.
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Those are pleasurable.
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I haven t done the cocaine, but the ice cream I can speak for.
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It s good.
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I ll trust that it holds up.
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They don t bring a lasting fulfillment.
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It s not sustainable.
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Both of them end up creating this self-destructive loop.
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and purpose really does become that thing that gives you something that is, on a neurochemical level, deeply satisfying.
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How did you marry the deeply spiritual, the often abstract, oftentimes I ll hear spiritual speakers talk and I feel them sort of drifting off into the ether.
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How did you marry that to experimentation, neuroscience, practicality?
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One, why do you find that interesting?
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And then two, what are you doing with that?
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I studied behavioral science at university, so I ve always been fascinated by why people do what they do.
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Whenever I was reading these books that are 5,000 years old, my greatest fascination was finding a principle and finding its relevance in modern science.
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I said to myself, the day I can t find that, I ll quit.
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I won t believe in this anymore, so I m still doing that, and I m ready to quit.
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If someone shows me a piece of science and I can t find a principle in these ancient literatures, or actually what I like to call these timeless literatures, then I ll give up my faith, because for me, it has to track forward.
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I ll give you a really basic example.
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Today, we re in the gratitude movement.
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There s like a million gratitude journals out there.
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There s a million scientific studies on gratitude, and gratitude has been linked to better mental health, self-awareness, better relationships.
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I mean, there s so many scientific studies on the neuro level that shows that gratitude is great for your mind, brain, and fulfillment.
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Now, I look back, and gratitude is all over the timeless wisdom.
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One of the first things we were trained to do when we were a monk was to pay our respects to the earth for what it gives us, and you do that first thing in the morning.
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What is that if not gratitude?
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When you wake up in the morning, you thank the earth for the food.
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You thank the earth for the water.
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You thank the earth for allowing yourself to walk.
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you start your day with gratitude.
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Today, the biggest tip on Forbes and Ink and everything is start your day with gratitude.
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Where does it come from?
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It s right there.
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These things are old.
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I get fascinated.
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I m intrigued by the parallels and patterns because it saves you time.
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It s the same way as which if I say that this business person got invested by this company And that s why they re successful because they had the right investors etc.
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That s a pattern So I know if I m building a business in that area.
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I m gonna look for investors like that It s the same thing that pattern saves you time rather than you trying to figure out does gratitude work How shall I be grateful?
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creating your own process almost
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It s really interesting.
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Life has taught me to stop believing everything I think.
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The way that it s taught me that is by relentlessly punishing me every time I overinvest in being right.
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I remember when my wife and I first got together, she used to get chest infections all the time.
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She told me it s because of the AC.
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I was like, that doesn t make sense.
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She was like, no, no, no, my grandmother used to just swear up and down if you re hot and you stand in front of a fan that you re going to get sick.
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I was like, that is the biggest load of crap I ve ever heard in my life.
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That does not make sense.
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Getting sick comes from either bacteria or virus.
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It s that simple.
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She was like, I m just saying it s what my grandma always said and it seems true to me.
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I was just like, oh God, this is exhausting.
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Then, one time, I went to a doctor and I was like, yeah, and my wife is crazy and thinks that when you re hot, if you stand in front of AC, it ll make you sick.
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He goes, oh, yeah, she s right.
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He was like, well, she s sort of right.
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He s like, this is what s happening.
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You have a mucous layer membrane in your throat that keeps it moist, keeps germs from being able to break through the barrier, and so they get trapped.
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They go to your stomach.
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They re killed by the acid or whatever.
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He said, but if you get a crack in that, then the bacteria or virus can actually get into your bloodstream, and that s how you get sick.
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It s just drying her throat out.
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I was like, what?
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It was one of those moments where I was like, how many wives tales are true?
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Directionally, they re not accurate, but they re true if you see what I mean.
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That s how I think when you think of a book that s lasted as long as it has, and I know you and I, we ve never talked about this, but we share a real fascination for storytelling.
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It s a way to convey an idea that resonates emotionally and allows people to carry it on and pass it on.
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Obviously, this all starts long before we have science and can prove any of this, but we see the patterns.
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We need a way to encapsulate the pattern.
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We encapsulate it in a story.
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The story is in and of itself totally fake, but now in a modern context, we re getting lost in that the story is fake even though the take home message is incredibly powerful.
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I mean, it s the classic story, right?
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The more you learn, the less you realize you know.
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Just as I ve gotten older and really started to understand this stuff and read as much as I do and quite frankly live and suffer and go through things like my wife having microbiome issues and at first thinking all of her descriptions make absolutely no sense and then you stop passing a judgment on it and start saying, what if everything she s saying is actually true?
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Like, how would we treat it then, right?
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There is something really fascinating there.
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Now, I find myself, I m way more emotionally drawn to the science because when I can picture it, I have a much easier time doing something about it.
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When you were talking about the things that you learned from meditation,
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I ve gotten tremendous value out of meditation, but it s nothing like what you ve learned.
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For me, it was once I understood that diaphragm breathing made sense because it triggers the parasympathetic nervous system, then because I understood it, the understanding becomes a force multiplier.
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Let s talk about behavioral science, self-awareness.
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Watching your content, which Have you ever looked at how much content you ve put out?
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No, it s a lot dude Like when you search your name like to go because I normally try to watch like basically everything and I was like I give up it s just it s really incredible and Going through that stuff.
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It seems really clear to me that you have massive self-awareness and
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What would you say, like, A, is there a process for people to gain more self-awareness?
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And then what are, from a behavioral, just human behavior level, what are things that trip up the average person?
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The first answer, I mean, I m a huge fan of the book Thinking Fast and Slow.
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I don t know if you ve read it.
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It s a great book.
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Yeah, it s a great book because for me, it s got a really close pattern connection again to what I studied.
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Just understanding system one and system two, if anyone watching hasn t read it, I highly recommend it.
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Just being able to differentiate between system one and system two as Daniel Kahneman calls it.
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I was like, if he is doing this off the cuff, I have to hate myself a little.
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If he s writing it down, he performs it so well that it feels off the cuff, but it s very impressive.
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The answer is both.
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Thank you, man.
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You re so kind.
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I m genuinely touched coming from you.
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Look, and I love giving compliments when they re real, but more importantly, you compliment the thing you want to reinforce in somebody.
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You ve got a mission, I find it very interesting, which is can we make knowledge, my word, I don t remember what word you used.
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Tom Bilyeu Wisdom.
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Wisdom, perfect.
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Can we make wisdom spread as far and as fast as entertainment, which is so similar to what I m trying to change people s beliefs through entertainment.
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I recognized the kindred soul right away.
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Then just watching the content, I m like, whoa.
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I m not surprised the number of views that you ve gotten because it s ...
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Songs work because they make you feel an emotion, but they also tap into whatever it is about humans, whatever it is that we convey through rhythm.
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Before the cameras were rolling, we were talking about it.
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The one thing that makes me very uncomfortable, I do this thing called impact quotes.
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Impact quotes is the first time where I allowed myself to perform, where I m knowingly, I would not say it like this if you and I were standing next to each other.
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This is for the camera.
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I know how it s going to be edited, I know we re going to add music to it, so it is a performance.
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It s also some of our best performing content.
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It s like what you were saying earlier about, look, I just accept that not everybody geeks out on neuroscience.
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I have to understand who my audience is and give them something in a way that will then resonate and go viral.
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Absolutely, and so I think acknowledging that s really interesting.
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So anyway, I m responding just what you were saying Your life seems to be an echo of that answer.
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All right, so there s a few more things.
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I have to get over it I m here.
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I m here.
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I m I m loving this and if you re loving it, that s even yeah a hundred percent So there are three questions that you get asked a lot.
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What are they?
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Who the big one is?
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How do I find my passion?
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You can tell me the ... I need you to answer each one of them, but if you want to run through what each of the questions are and then we ll go back or ... Sure.
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Yeah, no, I ll just do them as they are.
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Perfect.
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How do I find my passion, my simple motto which
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is the Dharma model.
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Dharma means eternal duty in the Vedic tradition.
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It s very similar to what Ikigai is being spoken about today, which is the Japanese version of reason for being.
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Why do we live?
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Where is meaning coming from?
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And it talks about an intersect of four areas.
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What am I good at?
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What do I love?
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What does the world need?
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And how do I get paid for it?
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To me, those four help you unlock your passion.
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When you find the intersect across all of those four, you re making your passion your purpose.
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You ll unlock your passion, you ll find your purpose.
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This is path one.
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There s two paths.
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Path one, I find my skill set and I engage it to help other people and become better at it.
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So, I m becoming better at what I m good at and I m using it to help other people because I m aware of what I m quite good at and I know what knowledge I have, what skills I have.
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I have some self-awareness.
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The other path that people often miss is actually I just start serving people.
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I just start helping people and I start to notice what I enjoy about that and what I m good at helping people with.
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So, that s Gandhi s path.
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Gandhi said that you find yourself when you lose yourself in the service of others.
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So for me, those are the two paths of how do I find my passion and finding the intersect between those four areas of that.
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And the second one is, Jay, my relationship s falling apart.
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I get asked that all the time.
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So the answer to that is much harder.
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It s harder to summarize it, but I always start with self-actualization that the problem is we have a list for the one that we want and we don t have a list for what we need to become.
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I don t mean become to attract.
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I mean become to just be.
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to just get to understand yourself.
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You don t know what you need in your life until you figure out who you are.
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And so I find too many people rush into relationships without really recognizing and being fully aware of what they need from a relationship.
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So it all comes back to how aware are you?
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How much understanding do you have of yourself and what you need and what you want?
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That s my best advice for a relationship in like a minute.
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Then the third question I mostly get asked is, Jay, what do you read?
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What are your favorite books?
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Because it seems you read a lot.
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What are your top three books?
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They re not groundbreaking in the sense that people may not be like, oh my God, that s the best book I ve ever read.
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For me, they changed my life.
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That s where I m coming at a point from.
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I love Start With Why by Simon Sinek, and not because I applied it to businesses, because I applied it to my life.
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And even today, I m constantly refining my why.
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That s all I do every day.
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My deepest morning routine and practice is to refine why I do what I do.
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It s so easy for me to now do it for money.
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It s so easy for me to now do it for followers.
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It s so easy for me to now do it for fame.
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Every day I have to refine that because I know having lived as a monk and what I practice that if those become what I want Then I ll forget who I need to be so my daily practice and my daily routine is refining my intention which in modern language is why so for me Simon s book helped me do that and
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The Bhagavad Gita, which I would love to do for Vedic knowledge, what Ryan s done for Stoicism.
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The Bhagavad Gita, over 5,000 years old.
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That book really exemplifies human challenge.
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Third book, I d say this one s going to be hard because it s the last one.
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Let me think.
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I m going to try to throw something else in there.
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So I ve done one like self-development, one more spiritual enlightenment.
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Let me throw a business book in, seeing as I m sure you have a lot of business viewers.
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I love the book Exponential Organizations.
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I don t know if you ve read it.
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It s by Salim Ismail and the Singularity University.
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That book, for me, is an incredible analysis of the success of all the organizations we see ruling our phone today.
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The way it breaks down their business models and how they were created, to me, it s fascinating.
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If anyone really wants to start up an exponential business today, then that s where they have to go.
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That s when Peter Diamandis said that if you want to be a billionaire, redefining it is someone who impacts the lives of a billion people.
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And that s what that business book is really about, is how do you create an exponential organization that positively impacts a billion people?
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So those are my three for today.
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That s pretty good.
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Yeah.
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All right, I ve got one more three that I want to hear you talk about.
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Those are your three Es.
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What are they?
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Why do they matter?
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So for me, my three E s are element, environment, and energy.
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Everyone has an element that they thrive in.
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If you take someone out of it, their element, they won t be the same.
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A modern day example would be Michael Jordan.
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He was incredible at basketball.
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You took him out of basketball, put him into baseball, no one remembers his career.
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We re talking about one of the best athletes of all time.
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Your environment is the environment around you.
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You can take a fish out of water and give it a beautiful mansion and a Bentley and all the money in the world, but it will die.
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That s what we are, like our environment.
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Everyone needs an environment in which they thrive, which we have to craft.
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Your boss, if you re at work, is never going to ask you, hey, what environment do you succeed in?
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That never happens.
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We have to create an environment where we thrive.
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Then finally, it s energy.
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Some of us love high energy environments, high pressure.
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Some of us succeed in low energy environments and low pressure.
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Figuring out your energy and the frequency on which you operate best will help you thrive as well.
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For me, those are the three E s to really create a thriving environment.
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Know your element, know your environment, and know your energy.
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At all times, if I see anything going wrong, I m going, is my element out of alignment?
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Environment out of alignment or is my energy out of alignment and that s a great three question test you can do to yourself When you don t think things are going right and all you have to do is bring that back into alignment.
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I love that All right before I ask my last question, where can these guys find you online?
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Absolutely, you can find me in my favorite place for you to find me if you see the most of his Facebook.
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I m Jay Shetty on Instagram I m Jay Shetty as well.
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There s my two base two best places YouTube as well Jay Shetty Twitter Jay Shetty, so it s just yes Jay Shetty on any platform that you re on I m probably there awesome All right, what s the impact that you want to have on the world?
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I think you ve said it so beautifully so many times and shared my vision, which is wonderful.
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It s wonderful to know that we share the same thing.
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It s making wisdom go viral.
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There s an incredible study in 2017 that said the most successful people in the world, healthy, wealthy, and wise, choose education over entertainment.
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The impact I want to have on the world is I want to transform and revolutionize the entertainment industry so that it becomes educational without anyone knowing.
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It s still completely entertaining.
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It s still like watching Netflix, but you re learning about human behavior, the mind, neuroscience, and everything without even knowing you are.
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To me, that s the greatest win that we can have for our society.
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How many people are going to quit watching Netflix and reading a book every night?
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I don t know, but if we can make that book come to life on Netflix, that s going to change the world because that s what people are going to consume.
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For so long, media has been used to numb people, to switch people off.
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If we can use it to excite, elevate, enlighten people.
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Not by just, not by like the cheesy way of like, oh, let s follow someone through their journey of enlightenment.
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It s not like that kind of stuff.
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I mean like really entertaining programming where you can learn by being entertained at the same time.
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If I can do that by changing the most powerful industry in the world, then I will feel that I ve had some, whatever, impact.
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because that way I think we ll reach the world without having to get around to change their habits too much.
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My thing is how do we meet people where they are and really deliver a message and a powerful expression of love.
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To me that s the highest form of compassion, the highest form of empathy, love and compassion
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to meet people where they already are rather than expecting them to change and Yeah, that s the impact I d like to have on the world So fingers crossed with your help with the help of everyone who s watching, you know, it s gonna be a team effort I can t do it on my own.
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I m not expecting to but yeah, that s that s the impact.
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I d like to have on the world.
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That s awesome All right
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Guys, I m telling you, when you look at a tribe of people, everybody has different roles and there s always somebody whose job it is to go out, to experience the world, to bring back the wisdom in a form that has been digested and made easy for other people to take away.
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Jay Shetty is that man.
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Go watch his content.
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It is somebody who has gone out into the world, who s been a monk, who s worked at Accenture
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and everywhere in between and come back with a real ability to explain what is going on, and he does it from a position of not trying to seem smarter than you or better than you, but just that that s his role.
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Some people are musicians, some people are the doctors, and some people break down the information.
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I really think he has unique access to the wisdom, as he calls it, to understand what people are trying to encapsulate in the books, modern or ancient, and his ability to articulate that in a way that feels like modern.
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modern rap, spoken word, whatever you want to think of it as, it is in and of itself an artistic creation.
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You cannot go wrong diving into it.
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It is not a mistake that he s had over a billion views in less than 12 months, which is insanity.
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Go check his stuff out.
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Hit him up.
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Ask him questions.
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Keep an eye, because I think he s going to be
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one of the greats at really digesting that information and really helping wisdom go viral.
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