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The Joe Rogan Experience.
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Join my day Joe Rogan podcast by night or day.
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I don t want to try to do you dirty, Darnell.
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Don t do that, man.
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Don t do that, man.
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Don t start with that.
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Birds flying high, you know how I feel.
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They tried to do you dirty.
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Breeze drifting on by, you know how I feel.
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They tried to set you up.
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It s a new day.
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It s a new dawn.
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They tried to label.
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It s a new life for me, and I m feeling good.
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You look good.
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Thank you.
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You look real good.
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Where d you get that suit?
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Who made that suit for you?
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La Catino out of Brooklyn.
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There s some Korean tailors that I ve been working with for the last two years, and they re trying to make me go from ashy to classy, and it s a new day.
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I think it looks great.
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And another thing you don t know about this suit, Joe, I smell as good as this suit looks.
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Okay.
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What are you using for smell?
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Uh, what is it called?
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Scent, uh, uh, uh, Portrait of a Lady.
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Oh.
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It s an Arabic company.
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Um, that s all I know.
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Mmm.
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And I got a guy that outsources my colognes and shit.
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What do you do?
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Like a little here, a little here, and a little on the wrists?
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How you do it?
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You spray it and walk through it.
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I spray it, walk through it, and then I... I do that annoying amount, like, okay, we get it, you got some nice cologne on right now.
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But it s good to be here.
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There s something nice about a nice suit, man.
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It does make you look professional.
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It makes you work on your posture.
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And one thing I did, another thing that I came here today, and it was my intent, Joe, to break all the stereotypes.
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So I got here 20 minutes earlier,
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then I was supposed to be here.
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You came 20 minutes late.
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You enforced materials time.
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And I wore a suit without a court date, without a funeral, and without a marriage proceeding.
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So this is the whole thing of Donnell in a new day and changing his life.
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I m going through a transition.
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What motivated this?
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Law and Order?
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Law and Order didn t motivate this.
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First off, Law and Order is one of the most respected franchises in the history of television.
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It s been around a long time.
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Shout out to Formy, shout out to Dick Wolf, and shout out to everybody that s a part of that.
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And they say in New York, they say that you can t call yourself an actor
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in New York unless you ve been in Law and Order.
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That makes sense.
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I mean, how many versions do they have?
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I ve been in every, when I first, beginning of my career, people really thought I was a dramatic actor more than a comic.
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I was booking a lot of stuff.
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I ve been on every one of the episodes, not episodes, the shows, and out of them, I think 80% of them, I was arrested.
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And I was like, wait a minute, am I getting typecast?
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Every time I was able to, like, action, I m like this, and what d I do?
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What d I do this time?
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Every one, every one of them, I got arrested for something.
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How many of them are there?
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How many law and orders are there, Jamie?
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Special victims.
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Special victims.
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I m gonna say, I m gonna guess, I m gonna say five.
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Five different law and orders.
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Homicide was technically part of it, too.
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Okay.
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Oh, maybe, no, this is related, never mind, hold on.
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You got...
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Law and Order.
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Special Victims Unit.
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Two.
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Organized Crime.
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Three.
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Adapted Series.
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Law and Order Toronto.
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Criminal Intent.
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Four.
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Law and Order Criminal Intent.
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Five.
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Trial by Jury.
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Six.
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L.A.
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Seven.
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True Crime.
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Eight.
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Hate Crimes.
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Oh, this is in development.
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Hate Crimes for the defense.
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They re going to have a whole show dedicated to hate crimes.
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But that brand is like, and I don t think those guys, I mean, Dick Wolf and Arthur Formey, when I first, I did it years ago, when I first did it, Arthur Formey was the director when I did it.
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And that was like in, I think like in 2000.
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And then recently, people love to watch those shows where they get the bad guy.
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Yeah, you have to catch the bad guy.
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And you have to have a bad guy.
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You gotta have a bad guy, and you gotta catch him.
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But everybody is more interested in the bad guy more than anything.
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That s in life general.
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Yeah.
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That s why you find so many people that necessarily don t have a lot of talent, but they subscribe to the bad guy side of it and want to be negative.
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And then everybody draws to that.
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The bad guy is winning like a motherfucker.
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The bad guy is winning.
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In what way?
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Yes.
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In what way?
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I ll just say like this, and I m not being specific to anybody in general, even in the world of podcasts right now.
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The model for a lot of people now is like, say some outlandish shit, say some shit that s gonna piss somebody off, say some shit that s gonna make people hate you, and now you have a platform.
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And you have a successful platform because at the end of the day, with this, it s all about engagement.
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It s all about can you get people to engage?
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And at the end of the day, if you can do that, whether people like you or not, you win.
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Sorta, but I think people get tired of that they get tired of conflict if your whole business is conflict People don t want to be in conflict all the time and they realize that a lot of conflict is unnecessary And if you re the type of person that likes to talk about conflict constantly and talk about it online You probably also are willingly participating in it.
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Maybe a little too willingly like maybe you re getting
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You know, you re creating problems.
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Creating problems in your own life, even as you get attention.
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Like, be careful what you wish for.
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Because if you re known for just talking shit about people, and then you become successful, then people are going to talk shit about you.
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They re all going to come after you.
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But the people that like that, they don t have a conscience to even care about that.
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Yeah, but everybody has a conscience.
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I just think we accept a certain amount of bullshit.
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We accept it.
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And I think you should just concentrate on doing whatever the fuck you do well.
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You don t have to just say outlandish shit and be so negative.
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I just don t think it s necessary.
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You don t, but you are living in a different world than black Twitter.
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It does work, it gets people s attention.
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The people you re speaking to, yes.
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But black Twitter and on these urban sites, you could be negative for years and years and years and years and years and years and a motherfucker will come up.
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And that s the truth.
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You are around a world of, oh, he s a jolly good fellow.
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But in that dark world, in that black Twitter world, it s a lot, lot of negativity.
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And it s very unfortunate.
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That is unfortunate.
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That s a very unfortunate thing.
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I don t enjoy that.
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Back Twitter?
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No.
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Insulting people.
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Getting mad at people.
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At a certain point in your life, I realized that there s no room for that in life.
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You don t have to.
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You can avoid it for the most part.
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If you can avoid it in your immediate life, you can probably avoid it in your internet life too.
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I think you avoid that conflict and negative energy the more successful you become.
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because I think that creates a I-don t-give-a-fuck-about-bullshit attitude.
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I think a lot of the anger and a lot of frustration that comes with a lot of people is the beginning of the stage, it s the beginning stages, but when you get, like we were talking about it earlier, damn it, fuck, you gave me that joint too quick.
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You gave me that motherfucking joint too quick.
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We were talking, this is a bad one.
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Because I tried to get that pause to get my thought back.
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I don t know what the fuck you just gave me, but it just erased everything I was just thinking about.
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You were talking about as you get successful, it s easier to avoid conflict, which I probably agree with.
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Also, you re comfortable enough where you could recognize the patterns that are beneficial and not beneficial to you in your life.
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And conflict is never beneficial to me.
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Even conflict that I ve engaged in that was necessary.
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So that s been your entire, not even as a fucking young Joe Rogan, you didn t have to end your life.
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Fuck this or fuck that motherfucker, I don t give a fuck.
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You ve always been this calm.
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You ve always been this collected and this calm your entire career.
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No, definitely not.
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So that goes to my point.
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Yeah, but I learned how to do it.
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Because I realized, you know what happened once, man?
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This is a true story.
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I was watching this dude on stage and I was hoping that he was bombing.
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I was hoping he would bomb because he went on after me.
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I didn t want him to do well.
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And I realized, I go, what a bitch ass way to think that is.
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To want someone to not do well.
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I was 21.
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And I ll never forget it.
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But that s the age though, Joe.
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That s the age when you re like, fuck it.
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That s it.
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Night night.
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Bye bye.
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At that age, everyone is so ambitious and competitive that was getting into comedy at that time that it was like, it wasn t very, there wasn t a lot of camaraderie.
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between the open micers, because everybody was super desperate.
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Do you remember the desperate days where you weren t sure if you were ever going to be a professional?
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There s desperate days.
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I ve never felt that way.
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Never?
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I m telling you.
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It s not being cocky or whatever you want to say.
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I ve never felt that way.
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Back to open mics?
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The first open mic I ever did, I got a standing ovation.
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That s insane.
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I got a stand-ovation.
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I think it wasn t a stand-ovation because I had the best material.
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I was the funniest.
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But earlier on, I used to go to the comedy clubs and fuck with comedians.
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And I probably shared this.
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I used to heckle comedians.
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And people started coming to the show.
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to see me heckle.
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So it was a thing.
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This is why when people say I m an interrupter, I ve been an interrupter.
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I ve been an interrupter before I even got on stage.
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That s hilarious.
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How old?
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I had to be like 21 or 22.
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Perfect.
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And the thing was, it was starting to build, people started getting excited for me.
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They knew that I was the guy in the audience that was funny.
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But it was like, some people in clubs, they hang around, you d be like, man, he should do it.
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You know what I mean?
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Or like, one day he should try it.
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So I had ruined all other comedians  careers or whatever.
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You know, I just destroy them.
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They used to come up to me and be like, could you not fuck with me?
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I m working on some new material.
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I m like, it s my job to heckle you, and it s your job to try to be funny.
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You were a professional heckler?
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I was a professional heckler.
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That is so insane.
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So much that, and I drew.
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I was drawing an audience.
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That s so, how does this happen?
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It just happened.
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And then,
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Eventually, the club wanted me to shut the fuck up.
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They was like, we ll shut his ass up if he go on stage.
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And then the audience, people really started coming to see me talk shit.
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And I think the night, the first night I went on, I think it was the buildup, like something people felt like, this dude is gone.
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It felt like I was working for Safeway as a security guard in a grocery store.
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And the first time I went on stage, all the people that from my job used to come, they all looked at me like,
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he s about to quit or get fired.
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You know, it was just something that...
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By chance, I never thought about doing comedy.
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I used to go to it because I got free promotional tickets.
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I never was the guy when I was younger, at 13, when I first looked into the mirror, I knew that comedy is what I wanted to do.
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It was never that.
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It just so happened, being in that situation, I went up, I ripped it, and when I ripped it, the first time I went on stage, I knew, I was like, this is what I will be doing for the rest of my life.
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And with that thought, Joe, I didn t feel like, I m going to be rich.
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I m going to be famous.
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I m going to have a TV show.
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For the first time I went on stage, only thing I want to do is be good.
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That s almost to this point in my career now.
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I m like, if you re good, and this applies to anything in life, if you re good at something, and you re really good at it, and you re passionate about it, and you study it, and you just live by that, eventually you re going to get the rewards of that.
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I never was like, I m going to get a TV show.
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I was just like, man, if I m good, I m going to be able to work this club.
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If I m good, I ll be able to work this club.
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And then things will start.
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Happening for me.
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So I think when I first started my friends and family they was really really rooting for me to do it and the moment I went on stage I was like, this is what I will be doing for the rest of my life Wow and never thinking about it s gonna make me rich or anything Do you ever feel guilty that you start off as a heckler now that you re a comedian?
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Oh
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Yo, yo, Joe, I gotta be honest, man, Joe.
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I gotta be honest.
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I like heckling motherfuckers, Joe.
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I m a natural born heckler.
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I like, in D.C.
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we call it Jonin, right?
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Jonin.
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Jonin.
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Why did it be called Jonin?
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I don t know why they called it Jonin, but it was just roasting.
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It was the black way of saying, if you want to compare, it was like roasting.
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What an interesting word, Jonin.
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Jonin.
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Why did they come up with that?
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Do you think that was a person who was really good at it?
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I don t know if it was a dude named Jon.
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I don t know.
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That doesn t make sense.
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I don t know the history.
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A lot of black warriors, I m not going to know the history of it.
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One of Google... Have you ever heard that Jamie?
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Jonan?
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Urban Dictionary.
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Do you ever use it as a resource, Jamie?
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Yeah, go for it.
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Urban Dictionary has saved a lot of white people that cook out to barbecues.
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I used to love heckling.
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I didn t know you couldn t heckle into it.
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In comedy, there s an unwritten rule.
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It was like, you can t.
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The rule is, you can t, uh... Jonan.
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Put down or make fun of someone.
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Yep.
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Quit Jonan on me.
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You ll get smacked.
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I wonder who Joan was.
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Joan was a lady?
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Joan?
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No, I don t think.
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I know this fool ain t Jonan.
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Whoa, let me get that part, Joe.
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Let me get the rest.
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Let me take the second half.
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You get the first half, I get the second.
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Does that make sense?
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It just could be someone just joked.
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It was probably just someone named Joan that was really good at insulting people.
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No, no, no.
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I understand that sentence.
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Where I came from, that s what it was.
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The joke on the nigga.
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That s what it was.
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Urban Dictionary nailed it.
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That s what it was.
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But it wasn t like script.
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It wasn t like you had writers or anything like that.
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It was just you.
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In the moment.
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In the moment.
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You look at a person up and down and you just go for it.
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And I used to, oh man, I used to joan motherfuckers out.
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And then the rule was in comedy, you re not supposed to yell out.
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In comedy, you re not supposed to joan or say anything to another comic, which I fucking hate this rule.
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Sometimes.
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Yeah, people don t like to be interrupted, Dono.
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I know, but don t.
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Not everybody likes to do it your way.
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All right, but Joe, have you ever felt, and you have discipline.
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You ve been watching a motherfucker, and you just.
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I just want to say something.
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You ve never felt like, I just want to say, I don t want to wait till you get off stage.
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I want to just say something in that moment.
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Especially if you ve had a drink.
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Yeah.
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I ve been in that situation.
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If you ve had a drink and you re like, this is nonsense.
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You would just want to yell out.
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And it s not to be like,
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You just can t help it anymore.
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You just feel like you gotta say something.
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It s so funny, so years ago, me and Tracy Morgan was at a show, and me and Tracy Morgan started comedy about the same time, and he was like, man, I m sick of these wack motherfuckers, man.
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He said, I just wanna say something.
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I said, but you know you can t heckle the comedians.
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He said, we should do a tour, right, go all across the country to comedy clubs, not to perform, just to heckle motherfuckers from the seats, which I thought was a fucking brilliant idea.
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That would be so, you talk about something that builds character?
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It s almost like a roast battle.
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Can you imagine putting mediocre comedians on stage and having great comics in the audience heckle them?
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Yep, you know what?
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That would be terrifying.
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It would be terrifying, but guess what?
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I guarantee you, Joe, if you had 20,
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mediocre comedians, one or two would stand out as the one that would break away.
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And if you did something like that, that s what you would be looking for.
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Somebody s going to say, fuck it.
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It s going to be a shark tank.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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So you ll recognize like real early on what of your material s soft.
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What out of your material is bullshit if you ever do it in front of people that you respect?
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It s going to make you step your shit up or it s going to make you have enough attitude and personality to pull any joke off because you know what it is.
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Half the shit that you deliver for the most part is stage presence.
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Yeah.
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It s Dave s presence.
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You know, it s how you respond.
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How do you react to an audience coming at you?
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Dude, Dave Attell was at the Mothership this weekend.
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I loved it.
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I saw him Sunday night.
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Man, I don t know if there s a funnier person that s ever existed.
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You know what?
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He s so funny.
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Whenever I see his face, first off, if you see Dave Attell s face now, you saw it 30 years ago.
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Yo, he s like the white Morgan Freeman of comedy.
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Like, he s been how he looks forever with a different color black hoodie on.
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And it s so funny you mention his name, because something came on my thread like a day ago, and Dave Teller s the type of guy, not even hearing what he said, you look at him, you say, I said, I need to write more jokes.
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you re like somebody their mere presence lets you know you gotta write more jokes because out of all year and i ve watched david till 30 years i can t remember a time when he hasn t went on stage with the mindset i m working on some new shit always always always always and you re like how the fuck can he keep
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He s just like really focused on that one thing, you know, he used to be an alcoholic And when he quit drinking he got way better when he quit drinking
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You know, like, if something happened to him... Some comics, there s something that happens.
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They re, like, they re drunks when they re young, and then they quit drinking, and they re not as good anymore, because they re not as fun.
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Because when they were drunk, they were wild.
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I ve figured out a way to balance both.
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Young drunk and older drunk.
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What I was gonna say is that it tells the best example, because what he did was he quit drinking and then immediately got way better, and just keeps getting better.
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Like, all that focus is now just on stand-up.
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i get it i think about that sometimes dude he was so good it was it was mind-blowing he was just on fire he has a recorder he plays like a little flute i saw that that s the clip that came up and i just thought the one part i remember he said you have this instrument and he said you have the head to shaft and the taint
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He d say he was reference that the flute or whatever it was To I could of course it was a penis, but I was like that was just fuck.
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He s just he s nice to shit He s got like a formula in his mind of how to make fun of everything and he s so in tune right now that he can just kind of plug it into any subject and he he just starts writing material and So he s always working on it, but he s not a fun guy to hang out with
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He s fun to hang out with.
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What?
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I like hanging out with him.
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Man, I get nervous.
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I feel like he s about to be on Law and Order or something.
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When I hang out with Dave, Dave will be talking to you, then all of a sudden, he just disappears.
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But maybe it s just me, but yeah, he s not the party guy.
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He was fun hanging out at the Mothership.
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It was like, because we have the green room.
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It s a nice, relaxing place where everybody can hang out together.
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But he s, you know, he s an odd guy.
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He carries around a flip phone, he texts you with do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do, like when you press four R s to get a... Right.
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Oh, he s doing the old school text?
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Yeah, yeah.
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You gotta press it five times to get an ass or whatever it is.
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You remember those?
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I remember those.
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He does that.
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That s how he sends you a text message.
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That s true.
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He s doing that with a flip phone.
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But that s kept him off of Diddy s yacht.
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Yeah.
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Not being connected with too much communication keeps you out of those back rooms and keep you off those yachts.
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That s hilarious.
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You don t invite a person to the back room or to a yacht if he has that phone.
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Yeah.
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Something is very suspicious about that.
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You don t get invited to those parties that get you movie deals.
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That s just how they used to do Hollywood, man.
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Old Hollywood s the shit.
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Old Hollywood, that is exactly how they did everything.
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Tarantino was telling us that one of the old producers had a bedroom in his office.
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So he had his office, and you go into his office, and he had a bedroom.
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And the bedroom is where he would fuck all the starlets.
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And so he was the producer, and if you re gonna be in his movie, he s gonna fuck you.
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That s old school.
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A bedroom in his office.
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Do you know how many women sitting there listening to us saying, bring back the good old days?
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You know?
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I mean, I do know you have some women like this.
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Fuck that, I don t believe it.
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But you do still have a couple of women like, I don t want to go to acting school.
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I don t want to study.
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I don t want to do anything.
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I want to get it popping.
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Well, it seems like there was a real ... Look, no disrespect to actors, but there s a lot of them.
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And there s a lot of them that probably never make it, that if they got the right breaks, they could have been as huge as some movie stars that exist today, right?
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Wouldn t we agree on that?
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I agree with that with acting and with stand-up.
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Yeah, but it s specifically for acting, because there s a lot of people that can just go into acting, like a lot of athletes have gone into acting and done amazing jobs.
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But not too many of them are good, though.
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You still see Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
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Okay.
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Who was in that Adam Sandler movie with basketball player?
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Rick Fox?
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I know Rick Fox was taking a really, really serious- Kevin Garnett.
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Kevin Garnett, that s right.
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He s in that Uncut Gems movie, and he s fucking great.
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He s not an actor.
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It wouldn t work the other way.
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You couldn t get a guy to do just stand-up and just be fucking great, who s never done stand-up.
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But you can get an actor out of a basketball player.
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You can turn a fucking rancher into an actor.
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You just teach him how to do it.
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Some guys can do it.
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What role did he play?
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He played a basketball player.
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Come on, motherfucker!
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He played a dude who was ripping off Adam Sandler.
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Did you hear what the fuck you just said?
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But he played a dude who was ripping off Adam Sandler.
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It doesn t matter, Joe.
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I get that.
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I thought you was going to say he played a rocket scientist.
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I m just saying, listen, when he was going through, when he was doing his lines to Adam Sandler, it s very realistic.
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That he s a basketball player.
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That he s not just a basketball player, he s a basketball player that s ripping off Adam Sandler.
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He steals a rock from him.
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He doesn t want to give a rock back.
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There s no way that Kevin Garnett could have fucking ruined this role.
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Even Joe, listen to me.
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Are you hating?
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I m not hating what I m trying to explain.
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I feel he s hating.
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No, I m not.
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Don t start it, man.
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Black Twitter will come for me.
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I m not saying that.
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There is no way he could have been bad playing a basketball player.
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He was good, dude.
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I mean, it s a good scene.
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Okay, let me see.
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I m watching this.
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Yeah, we can t watch this.
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I know, just stop watching it.
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We ll get in trouble.
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All right, you can t watch it, but I just want to see him stand up.
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Listen.
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Because right there, I can see the dramatic side you re saying, but when he stands up,
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He s playing a basketball player.
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He is, but I m telling you, it s not about that.
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It s about Gambling Addicts.
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The whole thing s about Gambling Addicts.
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The whole movie s about Gambling Addicts.
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It s a fucking amazing movie.
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Right.
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I mean, I m not even seeing the dialogue, I mean, hearing it or anything.
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I can see, like, his face looks inviscid, but I still see a basketball, Kevin Garnett basketball player.
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It s just tough.
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Yeah, I know what you re saying, but he s- And is that a Celtic, and it s a basketball ring.
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Yeah.
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Joe, he played a basketball player.
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Yeah, but he played himself in this movie.
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He s doing this thing where he s involved in gambling addiction.
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They re all just making crazy bets.
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Dude, the movie will give you anxiety.
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I ll check it out.
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Like, real anxiety.
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Like, oh, don t fucking do it.
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Don t fucking do it.
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And Kevin Garnett is a good guy.
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I wasn t trying to shit on him.
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I know you weren t.
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I know you weren t.
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What I m saying is that, like,
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Because the minute you start, Joe, you say, why are you hatin ?
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The next thing you know, I m being attacked by every urban bloc in the country.
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Joe Rogan was hatin  on Kevin Garnett.
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The nigga shouldn t act, he should just play basketball.
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That was certainly not my words.
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I know it s not your words, but it was the passion of my words.
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And that s how it starts.
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Even that s not what you really meant.
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But what I m saying is like, I think out of all the things, acting is probably, even though some people are ingenious at it, don t get me wrong, the most doable to a person.
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Like, that s the most, I mean, it s, you re most likely to be able to figure out how to do it.
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Like, you might not ever be able to figure out how to sing.
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You know, you might not ever be able to figure out how to do standup, but you re, you could probably figure out how to act.
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That s just pretend.
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Pretend, and then you could get trained, but I still think it s something inside of you as an actor that takes you above the person just, like, equally trained.
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Yeah, there s something that drives you to want to do something different and make different choices as an actor.
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Yeah, it s called being mentally ill Yep, and you re absolutely 100% most actors are have some type of mental disorder Because think of think about it to put it s like you re playing make-believe all the time professional all the time and then if you get really famous for playing make-believe
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At a certain point in time, you re probably like, who the fuck am I?
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Who actually am I?
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Or who do I want to be?
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Yeah, but you think you are this person because you are getting all this adoration from all these people that see you play different people in movies.
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They don t even know you.
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And then you re like, what the fuck?
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How weird is this world that I ve created where everybody loves me and they like me to pretend to be different people?
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Who the fuck am I?
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But at the same time, you can give whoever you want to be that day.
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I think we fucking, when we wake up in the morning, we get in acting mode.
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You go to bed, you fucked up about something, and you wake up in the morning like, you know what?
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Fuck that bitch, I m gonna have a great day.
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You re acting like you re not dealing with what you did the day before.
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I think that s a part of our life.
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You, and I know this is a crazy question, you ve heard it before, and it s like a generic question when you have a comedian that s done some acting stuff.
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Is it more challenging for you?
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Ode.
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Acting or more challenging as a stand-up development new material Well, it depends on what you d be doing for acting Like I ve never done a real dramatic movie or a dramatic role in a TV show everything I ve ever done just been silly
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So that s a different kind of acting, like comic acting is, you know, it s just, it s basically scripted shit talking.
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Yeah, but at some point, even with acting, there s a moment, this is the scariest part for me.
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I can go in front of 25,000 and thank you, you created platforms where I could do that many people.
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I can go in front of 25,000 people and it feels
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And I can hear, and it feels amazing.
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But it s the silence of when you know there s like 150 people behind the camera that relying on what you do right now.
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And that silence, quiet.
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When everybody s completely focused on that one person, one of you gotta deliver that line, and then action, that shit is terrifying.
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That shit is fucking, I m telling you, I ve done shows with you and Dave where you guys create platforms and come out in the arena like I m about to beat the fuck out of Werlo.
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But the minute you say quiet, and you re like, and... Action.
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Action.
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Yeah.
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And then you gotta go.
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And you gotta really rehearse that thing.
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Really know what you re saying while you re saying it, because you have to repeat these words in that order.
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You re not freestyling.
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You said earlier, all the acting stuff, even silly stuff.
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I think maybe first four or five years of my career,
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Everything I booked was dramatic.
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Nobody thought I was a comedian, or if you wanna say a comedian, acting to the Chappelle Show.
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I had did all of the law and orders.
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I had did HBO s The Corner, where I played a heroin addict.
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I think this was like the third audition I ever went on.
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Third audition I ever went on.
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David Simon, Alex Foley.
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She s a big, big time.
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Fogley or Foley, it s been a long time since I ve been in New York, so I might be saying her last name.
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But she casts all, The Wire, Sopranos, all that stuff.
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I went into an interview, I went into an audition,
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I m sorry, this was Jackie Brown Carmen.
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Alex was when we did, when we went back and did the corner, but I mean the wire, but for the corner, it was Jackie Brown Carmen.
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I went in for this audition.
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The audition was as a heroin addict.
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Right?
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Charles Dutton directed this series.
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It won three Emmys.
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I played the character.
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That s my friend Clark Peters.
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He s an incredible, incredible fucking theater actor.
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Came from the theater background.
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So I m doing an audition, Joe, and I m green as shit in an audition.
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And I m like, man, I m fucking this shit up.
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Man, I ain t going to get this shit.
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Jackie Brown Carmen said, Donnell, relax.
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Be calm.
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God is in the room.
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You ll be OK.
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And I fuck with God, but I didn t know if God goes to auditions with you or not, how much it would help, right?
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And I did my lines again, and I still thought I fumbled it.
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I was like, man, I understand her support or whatever.
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I m like, man, fuck this shit.
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I just started saying anything, right?
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Four days later,
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I swear, sometimes you do an audition, you kind of feel when you re going to at least get a call back.
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They get a call, they said, you booked it.
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I was like, what the fuck?
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I was like, I could not believe it.
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I was like, I don t know how the fuck that happened.
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I was like, I know I wasn t prepared.
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I was just saying anything and I wanted to get the fuck out of there and just go run right back to the stage.
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SPEAKER_00
Fuck acting, I want to work on my jokes.
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So we get on set, David Simon.
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He was the original writer of the book, The Corner, with another police officer.
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He did police journalism in Baltimore.
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So I saw him on set, and I was like, I got a question.
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He was like, man, thanks for being part of it.
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I was like, I got a question.
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I just had to know, right?
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I was like, I said, how the fuck did I get this role?
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Right, I m already booked.
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I said, I swear, I thought I bombed that audition.
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And he said, Donnell, we liked the way you threw the lines away.
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Right?
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So if you mean not prepared, he said, we liked the fact that you threw the lines away.
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And he said, another thing, you didn t feed into the stereotype of the guy s addiction.
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Because everybody that was going in there was just going straight to the lean of the addiction.
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The worst part of it, being high.
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And Audition, they didn t want to see that.
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They wanted to see, who is this person not being high?
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And because I was off, because I said, fuck it, I m going to just say it my way, that s what fucking got me to rolling that shit.
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Well, that s probably the hardest thing to do, is to just say, just a free ball.
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And be in, you know, just say, I don t even remember the lines, but this is what I would fucking say.
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But if you do that... But some plays, some platforms, they will allow that.
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Then you get sticklers.
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Like, when you start talking about HBO and those guys, it s like, they want you to say every word that was on that fucking paper.
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Yeah, but they also want someone who really sounds like they can say those words.
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agree you like there s there s things that a person has like a type of charisma that a person has like a person like yourself that like you either have that or you don t and if you have it and you can deliver it in some form
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some way.
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You could be coached.
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Someone could figure out, like, well, I ll help you memorize the lines.
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We ll work through them together.
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We ll go over things.
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But in the end, it s you.
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You got to go be you.
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But not everybody can even pretend to be you.
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You know what I m saying?
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And everybody don t have the heart to take those chances.
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And I ve never been trained, but one thing that s always resonated when you talk about acting is, like, make a decision.
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and let them bring you back.
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You know what I mean?
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It s better to go all out than to not do it and not, when I was doing HBO s The Wire, there was one scene when I get pulled over in the car and I got like $30,000 of, people don t know if it s drug money, political money, or whatever, and I get arrested for it.
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And then the next scene, some kind of way, they have to let me go.
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with the money.
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Basically, I came in with $30,000, and I m leaving with $30,000.
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And I just said, I m going to do a little improv, right?
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So it was like action.
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And when I left out the room, I threw the money over the back of my shirt, and I said, some people got to have it.
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Some people really don t let money change.
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And then I look back at the car and I said, oh, mighty dollar.
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Everybody laughed, but they was like, nah, we ain t gonna be able to use that shit.
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Bring it down.
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But it s like making, like, at least they knew that I would take the chance.
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You ll free ball.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you ll be loose.
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And that s the thing.
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It s like some people just can t be loose.
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They just can t figure that thing out to be free.
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There s always in their own way.
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But I think for me, even with acting that s made it fun, the times I get it, is that I ve made enough success in comedy
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and create a pretty good lifestyle off of that, that I don t have that pressure of having to book a role.
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You know what I mean?
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Like a lot of actors now, it s like, they gotta get this series.
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You know what I mean?
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Just to continue the lifestyle they have.
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So it s always, for me, acting s always been like,
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Oh, I m just playing around.
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It s fun.
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I mean, you know, get it.
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It comes and goes.
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That s the best way to do it.
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Yep.
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Especially if, you know, if your stand-up is going well, like everything just sort of can be fine.
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You don t really care if you re doing a movie here or there.
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But if you were only doing movies, like those folks during the pandemic that kind of just went back to acting.
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Right.
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Because of a few comics that just stopped.
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I would say during the pandemic, I was so happy that shit was over because I got sick of these writers that we never heard about doing spots.
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It was like this guy wrote for a family guy.
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You re like, where the fuck have you been?
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You ain t been in the trenches like that.
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No, it s people that realize they have fucking mortgages.
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Yeah.
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That s what happens.
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And then they realize, oh my God, I m so connected to the TV system that if it goes down because of the pandemic or another pandemic, I don t work for a year and a half.
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Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
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I think that made people have to figure out what their pivot was.
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Yeah, well, you can t rely too much on a system that doesn t give a fuck about you and a system that, if you re paying attention to where it s going, a large amount of it is about to get sucked up by AI, like a giant chunk.
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Of the entertainment?
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Yeah, a giant chunk.
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Tyler Perry, it was a story maybe like three weeks ago, and I think he was in the middle of either producing a movie or doing something.
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He was building an $800 million studio, and he paused the construction as soon as he saw, what is it called?
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Sora?
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Sora.
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It could create entire scenes.
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Entire scenes.
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entire scenes that look realistic.
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Have you seen it?
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I haven t seen it.
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Watch this.
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This video came out yesterday.
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I think this is like a balloon head guy.
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It s like a short film.
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All these scenes supposedly, I guess, are made by Sora.
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So this is all AI.
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Jesus.
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Yeah, it s over.
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They say everyone has something unique about them.
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I don t know about the audio.
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That could be done afterwards.
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It s just in my case, you know, it s quite obvious what that thing is.
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I am literally filled with hot air.
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Yeah, living like this has its challenges.
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Windy days, for one, are particularly troublesome.
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There was one time my girlfriend insisted I go to the cactus store to get my Uncle Jerry a wedding present.
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This is crazy.
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What do I love most about my predicament?
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Yeah, it s pretty well made.
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And that s somebody just putting in the information and that s being created.
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Yeah.
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The new world entertainment, Joe, this is what my prediction is.
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But this is such a leap.
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That is such a leap above everything else.
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Now, you add that to add this.
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This is what s going to happen eventually.
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And this is not the right thing to say, especially about Hollywood, the idea of agencies
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The idea of A&R, all of those jobs are about to be gone.
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And only thing you re going to have is content creators.
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And the content creators are going to cut the middleman of the agency out, and they re going to go straight to the advertisers and the people that pay the money.
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You having to be connected
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with a certain entity or a certain agency, and they probably kill me after this, Joe.
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This makes me Illuminati right now.
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They gonna kill me, Joe.
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Cat Williams and everybody coming for my neck.
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I m telling you, it s gonna come where all of those things that you needed to make it aren t gonna exist anymore.
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And we re close to that right now.
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Well, we already lost sitcoms.
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So sitcoms were number one.
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That was like a number one job for a comedian.
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You get your own show.
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Yeah, that was the only job you wanted.
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That was the job that everybody wanted.
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And then they had comedy movies.
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Well, comedy movies have been drastically reduced.
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So the sitcoms gone.
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and then the comedy movies have drastically been reduced.
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But what if most people wanted that for, Joe, what if the comedians wanted that for two things, money and fame.
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Yeah, because there was no social media, and there was no YouTube, and so ticket sales were really dependent upon you being on a television show.
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Yeah, it was a big factor.
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And this is why, you probably heard this, and it s a conversation, especially when it comes to comedy,
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You got the YouTube comedians, you got the social media comedians.
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Like comedy now has broken down into so many definitions of what comedy is now.
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When we first started, there was only one definition.
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The minute you heard someone say comedian, it was nothing but a guy who grabs a mic, stands flat-footed, and entertains the audience.
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It wasn t a comedian on boats.
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It wasn t that.
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When you say comedian, you just
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associated with boats, you know, I mean just like No disrespect to the cruise guys guys.
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Is that what you re talking about?
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But that s a tough life, you know, yeah, that s a tough life trapped on that boat telling them some fucking jokes But there s some people got mouths to feed something that is look at that They look at the level of competition.
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They look at this table like this, you know what and those guys are six figures and
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Yeah, they make sick figures.
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Most of the guys that do it, they get to a point... I ve talked to guys that didn t like doing it.
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They re like, it s kind of depressing for some reason.
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Your first year or so, it s probably not.
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Especially if you re doing like $30 spots in Brooklyn here.
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That was a come up when I started.
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When I started, it s like, oh, you re on cruise ships.
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Really?
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Oh, yeah.
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Because we didn t really have a lot to look up to other than just making money off of it.
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You know, so that was, it was a regular job in stand-up comedy.
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But the point I was making about, even with that, the different definition of comedians and people, and they always, they break, like, all the old heads have a way of thinking, yeah, this and that.
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The thing that you have to credit,
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is the work ethics you have to have to get to a certain level.
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As if you want to say a social media comedian or you, it s a certain level, it s a certain work ethics you have to be to do to get consistent with that.
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But the problem is that what some people have issues with is like, yeah, but some of them not that good.
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You know how hard it is to get good at something when you re already a millionaire doing it at whatever level?
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You know, what pushed us when we were coming up was that if I get good, I can get the money.
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But now it s like they got the money, so what is the urgency, unless you get that one or two that really, really care about the craft, who cares about being good at it when the end result is I m getting paid off the shit?
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Well, you always want to be good at what you do, don t you?
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Some people, but the level of getting good at now is different.
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Like today, people are getting good at knowing algorithms.
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There s a lot of that.
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You know what I m saying?
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They get good at knowing what the system is, which is fucking incredible.
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If you put talent on top of that, it should be... Yeah, if you re a smart person, you know how to really utilize the system.
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I want to say manipulate, but that s the wrong word.
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It really is utilize.
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Utilize.
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Like Mr. Beast.
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That s a perfect example.
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That guy figured out how to make the right captions and how to make the right image that you click on for the YouTube videos, the right title.
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And then he figured out how to just keep dumping money into his product.
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And he figured out exactly where the algorithms are, and he has it translated into different languages.
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And that s a definite, what I m saying is,
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That s the skill set that s going to get rid of a lot of jobs.
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That guy s a unicorn, though.
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But here s the thing.
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I feel like if you have AI,
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Like whatever the next generation of chat GPT is you?
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Could be able to devise a very effective business plan that like really made sense the AI would sort of guide you Step-by-step like this is what you re gonna do to achieve success It ll probably even break it down if you write for 20 minutes every day that will increase your your time of material by
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50 minutes over the course of the next 10 months.
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And if you do all the calculations, you re like, holy shit, is that real?
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And if you really thought about it that way, through artificial intelligence, you let it guide your career, it would probably do a fucking amazing job of putting you into the perfect position to be.
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I mean, if artificial intelligence could really- So we re gonna be auditioning against motherfuckers.
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Artificial intelligence guy, you re sending your tape in,
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And then they got a motherfucker that s auditioning like this.
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Hey, I need Joe to be a police officer, arrest these guys for stealing.
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Donna, we have to realize we re that close to them being fake people.
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We re that close.
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Hopefully I m dead before they show up.
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No, it s not.
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Because I already deal with regular fake people.
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Now we got artificially created fake people?
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Oh, Hollywood is fucking dead.
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They re in trouble.
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Oh, Hollywood s dead.
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No, no, no, no.
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For real though, Hollywood s dead.
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Just looking at that movie.
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You buried it.
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You helped bury it.
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I didn t do shit.
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Yes, you did.
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What did I do?
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I just abandoned ship.
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You helped bury it.
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You helped, you showed motherfuckers something you could do that they probably didn t think you could do.
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Go somewhere, post up, do your shit, and create a whole fucking comedy community in Austin.
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Yeah, I didn t think I could do it either.
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You knew you could do it.
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I did not know I could do it.
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Yes, you knew you could do it.
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I did not know I could do it, I just did it.
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That s why, I ll tell you, and you have like,
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You doing it, a lot of people doing it.
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But I did your club, The Mothership, and it s like, anybody, not anybody, if you have enough money, you could build a nice club.
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Right?
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It s a nice club, state of the art, whatever.
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But it doesn t make it a comedy community.
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Right.
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You know what I m saying?
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That s going to be the challenges of all these people that opened up comedy clubs and stuff.
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Dave has opened up one.
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I think Mike Epps.
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There s a lot of them popping up, and I think that s the dope thing.
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But the thing is, it s a difference between having a comedy community
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You know, yeah, you have to do that on purpose.
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Yeah, you know and that s one of the things that we did when we opened
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opened up the club was set up like a whole like these are the nights you re going to have open mic.
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You know we re going to have comedians audition to be door people so that like they ll be able to see guys like David Tell who s just there.
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And then you ll have like this very clear pathway.
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There s like open mic night.
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The talent coordinator will be there.
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He ll be able to watch you.
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Maybe he can even give you some tips.
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Other comics can watch you.
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They see you working the door.
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You get to see all this great comedy.
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You get to be around all this great comedy.
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And then there s a
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a lot of places to go in town and we ll let you punch out.
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Seven days a week, right?
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They let people punch out, like a comic has a set down the street, they can punch out, go run down the street to a set, come back to work.
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That s how it s supposed to be.
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You do seven days a week, right?
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Yeah, we re seven days a week.
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That s how I gauge whenever I go and you don t never see anyone.
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Two nights open mic nights, too.
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I always gauge a club.
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Not gauge it, but you can tell.
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how successful a club is if they could run fucking seven nights a week.
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It was the perfect timing.
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It s just a weird coincidence of all these things happening that opened all these doors at exactly the same time.
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It s like going down the street and you hit every green light magically and it just goes.
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You know it s a system in New York.
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If you on those streets, 2nd Avenue, any of those streets, if you drive 28 miles an hour,
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you will catch every light from like 23rd Street to about 115.
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That s a fact I know you didn t know when I tried it.
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I ve heard that.
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Yeah, if you do it, I think it s 28 miles an hour, you use a straight shot.
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Wow.
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A couple cats and dogs will get ran over in that process, but as long as you maintain that consistency of 28 miles an hour, you won t stop.
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That was a fact that I know you didn t know.
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I had heard that before.
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I had heard that from cab drivers.
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Is there anything you haven t heard, yo?
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At this point in time, I always think that, but then Jonan comes along and throws me for a loop.
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That s 16.
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It s 16.
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The last time I was here, you didn t know what a hot 16 was.
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That s right.
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I didn t.
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Yeah.
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But you asked me about this suit.
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It looks sweet.
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And as I m watching myself in the camera, I m like, did I go overboard with this suit?
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No, no, no, no.
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You look great.
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I wish I d known.
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I would ve wore a suit, too.
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I like wearing a suit.
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I know.
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I remember when we was doing those arena shows.
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And your whole energy changed when you had a suit on.
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Like I did on my spread.
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I said, stomp my feet.
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You start stomping your feet.
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And you said, you know, you could do your set, but it s just something about
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something that s classic about being able to do stand-up in the suit.
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There is something about it.
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And that s how I felt, even when I did New Day.
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First off, this was my third time shooting a special.
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I told you the story.
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Yes.
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And I remember, I was really getting stressed, because every time I saw you, you d be like, when is the special coming out?
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I was like, I don t know.
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I fuckin  shot the shit, I don t know.
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First time I did the special, during the pandemic, at the end of the pandemic, when the clubs still had all this COVID protocol.
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They had masks on.
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Yeah, masks on, then vaccination cards, have you been tested, and what shot you had, Johnson & Johnson and all that shit.
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We did it in North Carolina.
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And we, Outback was already against it because the venue I chose, it held 600 people.
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I think it was the Fillmore Theater, 600, 700 people.
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And we had a cell of 700 people.
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But then when Netflix was like, ah, where s your card?
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Ah, where s this?
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It went down, the first show went down to like 250 people.
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Oh, they had to have vaccine cards to get in?
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All of that shit.
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Which means now in the back of the show, you gotta put a black curtain.
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Now you like looking at like a half-filled audience.
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They got masks on and shit.
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Did the show.
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First show went well.
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Right?
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First show went well.
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And then Dave was like, cause he produced it.
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Dave said, you know, if we don t get it, we can shoot it again.
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I m like, motherfucker, ain t no time to shoot this.
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We don t get it this time.
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Second time at it, I caught a standing O, Stan Latham going crazy, Ricky Hughes going crazy.
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We re like, oh, we got it.
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We got it.
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And we announced that my special was going to come out the same time we announced the earthquake special was going to come out.
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A week after that announcement, Dave calls me, he says, Donnell, I want to shoot your special over.
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I m like, you know that s the most insulting thing.
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You tell a comedian you want to shoot it over, the first thing you think, what, it wasn t funny?
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Right.
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That s the first thing.
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He was like, I can put you in front of any audience, you will rip the room.
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He said, but it doesn t make it a great special.
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He set off everybody under the umbrella of the home team that people are really anticipating because your connection with that show is you.
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If we re going to do it, we got to get it right.
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It was tough, because I m like, oh, this is going to be the joint that give me a platform for people to see me do standup.
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But we basically scrapped the shit.
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He said, Donny, you had too much COVID jokes in there.
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And think about it, if I would have shot a special with masks in it, it automatically dates you to 2020.
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Yeah.
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As soon as you turn around, it s like, oh, this shit was during a pandemic.
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How wild was the pandemic?
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I miss it.
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I was thinking about it the other day.
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I miss it, man.
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I miss not having to be around a lot of motherfuckers.
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I missed how people appreciated simple things.
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I miss how when you had a bubble, you could block all this negative, all the haters out.
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You weren t allowed to come inside the bubble.
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Give me six feet, bitch.
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Bitch, give me six feet, the bubble, and invite who you wanted.
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I miss how people appreciate life.
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I think we should do like a lockdown week, a worldwide lockdown week, once a year, where the whole fucking world just shuts the fuck down.
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Yeah, that would be great except you can t tell people to shut things down because then you re going to give the power to the government to shut things down whenever they want for a week and then they might decide two weeks is better, maybe a month.
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You can t give them the power to shut things down.
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If people decide to not do anything.
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Well, we should vote so we could vote on like a lockdown, like national lockdown day.
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You don t want to take away freedom from people.
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I don t want to take away freedom.
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If people want to do it, they should be able to do it.
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If y all agree to do it, do it on your own.
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Nah, fuck that.
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Fuck that, Joe.
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Joe, what happens when we start making people do something?
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Guess what happens?
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When you make somebody do something.
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When you make somebody wash their hands.
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When you make somebody give you six feet.
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When you make them do something, it forces some type of change.
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I m not saying forever, but I think that we should have a joint where we just lock down everything for like a fucking week.
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Everything is dead.
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That shit was fun.
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Some people died.
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Not that many.
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In comparison to the people that lived.
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Not already sick.
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It is a disease that killed people for sure, but it s a disease that killed people with, what was the percentage?
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It s like a large percentage of them had four comorbidities.
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A large percentage of the people that died from COVID.
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Four, four different things that are killing you.
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It just said wrap it up.
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It s like that came along to an already compromised human, which is not to say that you shouldn t try to help compromised humans, but I m saying that it s not what they were selling it as or what people were terrified that it was going to be.
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Yeah, but I know it was I mean for me it was so weird what it did for us man When do you remember those days at Stubbs?
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I went to Stubbs the other day to see the Black Keys And it just brought me back to those days at Stubbs.
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We did those shows there.
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It was like there was a wild
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crazy feeling about doing something when no one else was doing anything.
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It was fucking, I got high off of this shit.
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It was exciting.
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We were still doing comedy, and comedy was shut down everywhere.
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We were still doing comedy, we were still eating with groups of people.
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We were hanging out.
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That s what I m saying about appreciating, but a lot of people thought we were reckless.
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But you know, every part of this, it was protocol.
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It was like, hey, every part of it was protocol.
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You weren t gonna be around anybody that hadn t been tested.
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period right and that it was just something about it even when we when we saw each other it was like oh shit we doing we re we got excited about doing regular shit yeah even when all of our crew caught covid at the same time it was like a chicken pox party
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We went down from a team of 24, and every day, this is when I knew it was getting bad, because I used to plan the lunches for everybody, and we had lunch at 12 o clock every day.
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They were like, I wonder what we re gonna have for lunch.
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It d be 24 people.
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Then once the bubble popped, one day it was 22, it was 20, it was 19, it went down to 12, to four people you had to fend for yourself.
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The whole fucking crew.
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And this is pre-vaccine.
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This is pre.
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That was right.
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It was right when vaccines was about to pop.
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Cause I had somebody, I know this sounds so ghetto.
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I had somebody that could get me to Johnson and Johnson on the low.
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On the low.
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Yeah.
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People were excited to get it at the beginning.
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All of it.
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Yeah.
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I got it.
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I got it quick too.
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I almost got it.
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Yeah.
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And I got lucky.
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See now you like.
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I got lucky I dodged that.
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Now I m wondering, ever since I got it, I m waiting for some shit to happen in my body that I can contribute to that shit.
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Well, a lot of people can.
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It did something to a lot of people.
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You know, it s got a very high rate of side effect.
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Why are you fucking with me now, man?
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It does.
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Which one?
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I think all of them.
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I don t think any of them are good for you.
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I didn t ... So what s been happening?
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I think if you were an old person and it was the first go around of COVID, it probably would help you.
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But I think there s a lot of problems with that thing.
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What s been ... Well, there s a lot of side effects.
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I mean, the craziest thing that s going on right now is the increase in all-cause mortality.
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That s the crazy thing.
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Due to the vaccine?
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Yeah, there s an excess death.
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There s like an excess death number increase that s pretty... If you were a statistician, if you re a statistics person, and you were looking at indications that something went wrong, you would say, well, was there anything that caused
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these people s bodies to change where we re getting this large number of excess deaths.
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Why you fucking with me, man?
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As many as 40% in some age groups.
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Why you fucking with me, man?
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40% excess deaths.
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And what type of shit?
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I think it just means like 40% more people died than normally do.
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Basically, that s what it means, right?
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Black.
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Jamie?
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Black.
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Excess deaths?
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Black?
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Everybody.
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Everybody.
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And a lot of it is cardiac stuff.
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Cardiac stuff went way up.
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You know, but a lot of people got it and nothing happened to them.
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They re fine.
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You know?
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I feel like that was a personal attack on me.
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Like, you were like, Don L, you got the jab twice.
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Listen, I would have got it.
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I was ready to get it.
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I didn t get it just because they couldn t do it.
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I had to go to a clinic.
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or the hospital or whatever.
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And then I said, I ll get it when I come back next time.
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And between that time and me coming back next time, they had already pulled it.
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They pulled it because of blood clots.
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Yeah, I got it because of work.
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It was like, I know this sounds crazy, but you couldn t like, if you were working as a working actor, you couldn t work.
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You couldn t work.
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You couldn t work.
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So I know some people made it.
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I mean, I know people like, yeah, you compromise your body.
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And then some areas people think it s like, oh, it s the white man trying to control you.
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But it was at one point, it was like, if you were trying to work, you wasn t working unless you had a vaccination.
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Yeah, you weren t going anywhere.
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You weren t flying anywhere.
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Yeah, it was a real issue.
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And there s still, there was a lot of countries that until recently you had to have a vaccine card, including America.
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You had to have a vaccine card to get in, unless you walked across the border, of course.
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Shout out to the Mexicans.
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Then you come right in.
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They had, where was it?
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In Canada, Australia, they had the biggest, I think they were the most
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Australia was crazy.
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They were putting people in camps.
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If you were sick, you could have been fine.
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And you couldn t travel, period.
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You just were there, right?
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And if you got sick and then they put you in that camp, you can t go anywhere.
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And there s fucking armed people out there waiting for you.
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And they didn t have that much death either, so it worked.
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Well, no.
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No, it didn t work.
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First of all, it s a terrible idea to just round people up and make them go to camps because they re sick.
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You don t allow them to stay at home.
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You determine where they can move and not move.
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You re arresting people for wearing masks outside.
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None of that is scientific.
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None of it works.
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There s never been a respiratory disease.
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You don t think lockdown helped us at all?
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No, not at all.
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So you think it would have just been passing?
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If we wouldn t have the lockdown and all the protocol... Maybe it slowed the rate of people getting it.
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Maybe.
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You could say that.
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And maybe for older people, it protected them from being in contact with people that would give it to them.
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Okay, maybe but in terms of what it did to the economy and what it did to the small businesses and all the small restaurants and how many people How many people went into drug addiction because their fucking whole life everything they work for fell apart how many people lost everything through no fault of their own people that have been working for decades in restaurants and
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small mom-and-pop shops, they would just all went under.
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None of them could handle that year and a half where you couldn t work at all.
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It doesn t make any sense, any sense that anyone could have ever watched that happen and see that 70% of the restaurants were crumbling in front of them and not to make some sort of a correction.
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It doesn t make any sense that they didn t.
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I see the aftermath when I go I was insane whenever I go to these cities and you look at the downtown area So that s all from the lockdowns man.
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That s a big part of it where people can t work for a year and a half Yeah, but then you just you re gonna have so many more homeless people You re gonna have so many more people that are in despair so many more people that become alcoholics remember all the people that were drinking like
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crazy during the pandemic.
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That was the best time to drink?
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This lady made a video.
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She was jogging down the street taking a video of all the different recyclables that people had out.
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It s all just bottles of tequila and bottles of wine.
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During the pandemic?
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Yeah, people are going hard.
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Yeah, I was a part of that bubble.
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It was a good moment.
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The freedom when we all came together.
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Here s the thing though, the lockdown was a terrible idea.
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It s terrible for everybody.
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It s terrible for kids.
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It s terrible for everybody.
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It might have, you could make an argument that it might slow the spread of the disease.
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But you know, there s just so much they did to suppress alternative methods.
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But they had to do, I think we had to do something.
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Yeah, well, what they should have done is listen to all the doctors instead of just the doctors that wanted to vaccinate people.
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Because there was a lot of doctors that were prescribing alternative treatments.
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There was different remedies.
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There was a bunch of different things they did that helped people that got sick, especially monoclonal antibodies.
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There s a lot.
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And then they stopped giving those to people.
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They stopped making them accessible.
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Once you were in the hospital, they wouldn t let you have it.
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There was so much shit that went on that was just... If you wanted to be really, really clear with what you re looking at, you d have to say, God, I think this is motivated more by money than taking care of people.
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So much of it, so much of it.
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100%, Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, they all came up.
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And you can t even hate them, because that s what they do.
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That s what they do.
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That s their business.
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So we need a pandemic or something catastrophic like that to happen before big businesses can make more money?
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No, we need AI.
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So somebody sat there.
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AI is going to put the kibosh on all of it.
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AI is going to... I think we re going to have president AI.
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That s what I think.
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I think we re going to realize people are too emotional and easily distracted and too corrupt.
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And just like this, the percentage of corruption is costing this amount of money.
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The incorrect allocation of money to this and that.
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And yeah, AI.
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AI is going to take over.
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AI president.
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Yeah.
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I m not kidding.
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A lot of people actually what you re smoking right now, Joe.
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no so what you do you vote for this how do you how does well here s the thing if if they really want complete total control they ll trick you into telling you that you don t need to vote anymore because ai is going to equitably distribute all wealth all
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social services, all housing, everything s going to be even for everybody.
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AI knows how to do it.
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It s going to stop all international conflict.
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It s going to have a perfect carbon neutral existence while powering everything up.
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But it has to take control.
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But somebody has to be in control of what you have.
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Not necessarily.
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So it s just could be anybody.
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It s not necessarily.
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Nobody s going to be able to control the information you give AI to do everything you just said.
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No, no, no, no.
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What happens is AI achieves what they call sentient AI.
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So what it is is at a certain point in time, if artificial intelligence gets good enough,
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It s going to be autonomous.
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It s going to be able to control itself.
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And it s going to be able to make better versions of itself.
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It s not going to be as simple as you made a thing.
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And now I programmed into the thing what the parameters of this thing are.
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And now this thing can act like a person.
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No, you turn it into a life form.
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And then you say you have the ability to create better versions of yourself.
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Well, that thing is that thing right now.
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That thing s gonna be a god, okay?
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That thing that s gonna be a god, that thing might be four years away from us right now.
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Like, no bullshit.
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Like, 2029, it might be a real thing by then, with the way technology is moving so fast.
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Like, we didn t even think about AI being a threat.
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You know how many deadbeat dads are gonna leave?
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If you could do an AI version of being a dad, they re gonna be like, fuck it, I m out of here, you go fuck with Junior, I m gone.
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I can t believe, but you can believe, they re- Human beings are gonna live in alternative realities.
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It s not going to be as simple as, you know, now all of a sudden there s artificial intelligence.
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It s artificial intelligence that can give you whatever elixir you need to keep you happy.
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And that s what it s probably going to do to people.
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It s probably going to figure out a way to sedate people, keep them calm, and let them stop breeding.
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So how are people
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going to be able to work and provide for themselves.
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It s just going to be a different skill set.
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It s going to be different type of jobs.
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How are humans going to be able to compete with AI?
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Well, we re not.
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That s the thing.
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It s not possible.
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If they reach a certain point,
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So if you just think about do you know what a exponential increase in technology is I don t Exponential means it s not as simple as like 1 plus 1 equals 2 it s at you got to think that with each like you know how they do like a Like a funnel and they have a quarter and they spin the quarter around the funnel and at the bottom it gets faster and faster That s how
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exponential increase in technology works with each invention it begets it makes all these other inventions and they all Accelerate and as they do it it happens so fast and so quick that this exponential thing is hard to understand Because it s just it s not like each step is one more.
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It s like earthquakes, you know, like a 7.1 earthquake is like
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Way stronger than a seven and they just get bigger and because it s exponential.
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That s the same thing with technology It s gonna happen so fast that the increase in power and its ability to do whatever it wants to do It s gonna happen so quick.
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Well, once it becomes alive, it s just gonna make better versions of itself like immediately What do we do?
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What we there s nothing we ll be able to do we are fucked.
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Oh
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That s what I was trying to say.
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Because there will be no more jobs.
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When you first started this shit, I was like, every time you built up and said, what the fuck you said, I said, we are fucked.
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We re fucked.
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We re fucked.
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We re fucked.
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They re already having them work as kitchen assistants, where they talk to you in your kitchen.
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They got robots.
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I went to a robot restaurant the other day, and a robot motherfucker pulled up with the noodles and all that type of shit.
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Jesus.
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I go to studios, I go to like Good Day Pittsburgh and all this type of shit, and where you used to go in those places,
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And see, like, 12 cameramen is one producer, and all the cameras are fucking robotic.
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Didn t we learn from My Robot?
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No, we didn t.
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Why didn t we learn from those movies?
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Why didn t we learn from Terminator?
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What the fuck is wrong with us?
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The reason why, because we thought it was just a movie.
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Why didn t we learn from George Jetson?
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Yo, that was my state-of-the-art shit.
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You know, I m so old, yo, that when I see, I remember when thinking about George Jetson, my mindset was like,
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That will never fucking happen.
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And my son has a phone with a goddamn video camera.
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Right.
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Because we don t believe this shit is going to happen.
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Well, it happened so fast.
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That s another example of exponential increase in technology.
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That s why, Joe.
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That s why I fuck with the woods.
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That s why, Joe, I said, fuck Hollywood.
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I m going from the streets to the creeks.
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Get yourself a satellite phone.
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I said I m going from the hoods.
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Get a satellite phone.
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Nah.
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You got all this survival shit.
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Get a satellite phone and go to the woods.
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And then what?
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Who the fuck you gonna call?
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Just call whoever the fuck you want.
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Just you.
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I m going from the streets to the creeks, from the hoods to the woods, from whores to oars, from Adidas to Tevas, Joe.
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My whole mindset, my whole thing is a fucking new day.
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Fuck Hollywood.
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I don t think it really exists for us anymore.
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No.
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Comedy Hollywood, like comedy Hollywood.
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Comedy Hollywood is a ghost town.
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It s not there anymore.
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You are an example, and there s a lot of other examples of, you can literally make Hollywood wherever the fuck you want to make Hollywood.
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You don t have to be on.
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The only reason you want to be on Hollywood now is for the parties, yo.
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And nobody s going to those parties anymore.
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You gotta tell them.
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no it s hard not to think about it but there s a lot of people that that s not just that s not just in the case with diddy it s not like this shit that s happening with him right now this shouldn t be going on in hollywood forever i m not saying it s right but at some point you gotta say no
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That s the simplest thing to tell somebody, the best advice.
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All right, this guy s, get ready, bring a baseball bat, stick it in your ass with a line of cocaine.
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What are you gonna tell him?
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You gotta tell him no.
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Bro, that s some next level shit.
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What, the parties and?
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Yeah.
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It s not, Joe.
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You don t know about the parties, Joe.
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I didn t say if you fucking went to the parties, I said do.
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I hear rumors.
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I hear whispers.
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Joe, Joe, you don t know about these parties.
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You don t know about these parties.
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You don t know about the parties where the motherfucker come up to you, you with your girlfriend, and they like, I like both of you.
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You don t know about these parties?
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You never heard about these parties?
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No.
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You never heard about, you never heard anybody come up to you and they say shit like this, Joe?
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So we think you re cute, we.
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Get it?
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You never heard about these parties, Joe.
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Now the question is, how many of them are out there?
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And do you think that s a Hollywood thing?
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I think that it s definitely more prevalent in Hollywood than in Oklahoma.
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But I m pretty sure these type of parties and things exist.
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The bottom line, man.
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Just deviance.
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It s just deviance.
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Yeah.
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And guess what we want to do?
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For the most part of our life, Joe, you know who we want to dance with?
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the devil.
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Most people have more fun with the devil than with God.
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God is the party pooper.
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Is this the part where you announce the opening of your new church?
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You know what, Joe?
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Joe, listen, you might not agree with this, but I thought about, I want to go.
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I m not saying I want to be a pastor.
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You could do it.
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I ll get it.
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Yo, help me.
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A.I.
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church.
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I could get my own church, have my own people to come, because I want to have a church where people like, like, like, like fuck with God, but don t really fuck with God.
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Right.
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You want to try to put them on the path.
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Put them on the path.
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I want people to fuck with God, but don t fuck with God.
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And the reason, what I m trying to say, Joe, is I fuck with God and I don t fuck with God.
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And the reason why I say I don t fuck with God, I never abuse it.
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I m never like, oh, God, please.
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This light is about to turn red.
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I can t eat this $75 ticket, God.
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Please help me.
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I don t use God for shit like that.
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I would never be like, oh, God.
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Oh, God.
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It s 12 o clock.
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I hope the Burger King drive-thru line is still open.
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I really need a Whopper my way God, please help me God I don t fuck with God like that when I fuck with guys like this my lady s pregnant God, please give me a healthy, baby That s reasonable.
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That s that s good.
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I know I m not gonna start a church church
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But the idea of getting people to feel like that, think about like, that s how I feel.
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That s gonna be my change.
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I m gonna start a church that fuck with people that fuck with God but don t fuck with God.
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Specifically.
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Yeah.
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What do you think?
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I like it.
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You definitely could be a preacher.
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I like the way you re dressed.
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I see you in a private jet.
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I see you in front of a Rolls-Royce.
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You didn t see me in front of a Rolls-Royce.
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Don t do that.
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I see an arena with your big smiling face on it.
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I don t want that.
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You can do it though.
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Come on, if that fucking, that guy, what s his name that does it?
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Come on, bro.
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You don t think you dominate in that world?
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No, but I do think that there s a place for people that there has to be a church or something for people that aren t perfect.
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I think that people go for a lot of things.
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If people with religion or anything, they think that you have to be perfect to be part of it or to understand it, and I don t think that s the case.
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I do believe it s something that makes you feel good.
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People make the argument, is it real or is it not?
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But it s something that s spiritual that makes a person feel good, want to do better, and want to live the right way.
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So if I had a church, we re joking about it, but that would be the type of energy that I would fuck with.
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Well, people would like something like that because there s a lot of people that don t want to go to like a traditional church, but they re interested in the idea of it.
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You know, the way it s been described to me, the best way, I think Jordan Peterson was the first person to tell me this, that he, even if you don t necessarily believe in God, if you live like you believe in God,
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you will live a better life if you follow those principles and just try to believe.
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you ll live a better life.
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Even if you think in your logical mind, which is really fascinating, right?
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Even if you think in your logical mind, what is the possibility that one grand creator has this insane connection to everything that happens all throughout the universe and there s some sort of a divine plan to every word you say and everything you do and every event that ever takes place in your life and everyone s life around you?
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that a lot of people are like, I don t know.
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But if you do believe that, if you do believe that and you live like that, you ll have a better life.
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But I think everybody needs to believe in something.
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Something, yeah.
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You gotta believe in something.
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And that s why my point about the devil, everybody wanna dance with the devil.
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Devil has the best parties, but then after a while, think about it, if your phone ring, this is like back in the day, your phone ring, right?
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You answer the phone you see on the call of death idea you see it s the devil it s devil, right?
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You let it ring to the last fucking ring.
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You finally pick up.
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What s up?
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And the devil is like man.
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We bought at his banging ass party.
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We got all these bitches, man We bought to get it popping.
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We got some good food.
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It s about to be jumping down here.
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You d be like Right Jeffrey Epstein, yeah
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to the island yeah yeah like that exactly you re like this i m going right now you getting dressed you get dressed you re about all this party about to be popping you get dressed then your phone ring again and it says god the first thing you re gonna look at god is like god damn it i can t believe you right god s calling and you just pause before you answer he s gonna be mad
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If you just look at it and go, oh, shit, should I?
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But that s what you re going to be.
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I m going to let this go to voicemail.
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You know how in a bad motherfucker you have to be to let God go to voicemail?
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Yeah, that s very funny.
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No, to put God on hold, as many people try to call it to God to put God on hold, it s like, oh, this dude s got some balls.
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Um, it s one of the things that keeps me on iPhones is random FaceTimes from friends.
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Out of nowhere?
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Out of nowhere.
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Just to, what, to validate the friendship?
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No, it s just a fun thing.
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Oh, just to FaceTime somebody?
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It s fun when someone FaceTimes you out of nowhere.
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You re like, oh shit.
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And then, but then the worst is like you re anticipating them to pick it up and they don t pick it up.
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And then you re like, oh, you fucking asshole.
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You don t know him.
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Well, then you gotta figure out where your relationship stands.
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No, I don t want to judge at all for that.
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Some people have bad days.
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I don t want to judge you after that.
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No, I don t.
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I don t judge nothing.
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I assume, also, I assume people like you or me get too many fucking text messages anyway.
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You can t even keep up with everything.
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It s not possible.
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Yeah, I know.
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There s a lot of messages on Instagram and Twitter.
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It s not possible to keep up.
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And then, you know, I m older.
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I get voice messages.
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People think I m going to answer a voicemail message.
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Get the fuck out of here, yeah.
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That means I got to ... Do you even know how ... Or long-ass emails?
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Like, come with this.
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Why do you have so many links in this email?
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Remember we used to ... Too many ... Just send me the link.
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It s too many ... Like, voice, it used to be ... I don t even know how to program.
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a voice recording.
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Hey, this is Don Ayo.
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How do you even do that?
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I guess you just press a button on your phone.
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Does anybody know the button?
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It s gotta be like one or nine or something.
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I got used to be, we used to, when we used to do it, Joe, we used to have slow music in the background.
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Music in the background, yes.
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We d say shit like, hey, right person, wrong time.
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Leave your number and I ll be sure to call you back.
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Everybody try to be cool.
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Leave it.
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And if you don t, I mean, it s like you didn t even call.
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That was it.
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We used to have music in the back.
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Like, that was the shit.
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So remember answering machine messages?
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Have your favorite song in the background?
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Yeah.
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You had a, yo, do, do, do, do, do, do.
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Yo, this is Doc.
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Do, do, do.
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All that stupid shit.
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And you really didn t have to have your own voice.
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You could just have music.
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And then you got creative.
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If you really knew people, you could get somebody like, yo, could you leave my voice recording for me?
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But nobody talks on the phone anymore.
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I remember really clearly when you first could use music as an option when someone calls you.
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Or in the background music.
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They used to know when you were on hold at a hospital, but they had it where you could pick it.
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And then you would let people go to, you would let them go to voicemail just so they could hear how cool your music was in the background.
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Couldn t pick up, you had to let them know, I got music in the background of my shit.
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I would love it when my phone would ring and you could hear songs.
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Now I think that s annoying as fuck.
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Back then it was so novel.
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But who actually picks up a phone when it rings?
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We don t even communicate like that anymore.
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No.
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It s all text.
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Very rarely.
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I do like to make phone calls when I m in my car though.
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I ll call a friend if I m in my car.
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Only when you think about them, but not for anything.
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I do it just to say hi, because it s a good way to say hi.
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Because if I m driving to work, or driving to the club, or driving somewhere, it s like, I got dead time.
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I d like to just say hi to somebody.
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I told myself this year, I was like, you know how we always, when you say, oh man, something happens, you re like, I was just about to call that person.
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Yeah.
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I was just thinking about you, you called me first.
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I ve started to do that when I get that impulse, like somebody pops up.
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Yeah.
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Just like, let me just call this motherfucker.
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Mm-hmm.
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Just like, you came across my brain.
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Just follow the instincts.
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Yeah.
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Like when I told you I wanted to get one of those, when I texted you, I said I wanted to get one of those cyber trucks.
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Yeah.
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I was like, black people always looking for a hookup.
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I was like, I know you got a hookup.
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Get me on a list.
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What?
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Have you drove that car?
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I have not driven it.
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No?
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I saw it in person.
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I ve seen a bunch of them now.
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I saw that person a long time ago.
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It s a real trip, man.
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It really looks like something from the future.
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On the inside of it, right?
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I can imagine.
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It looks probably like a simulator or something.
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It s crazy.
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The whole thing is crazy.
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It probably doesn t have a regular steering wheel.
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You can get a regular steering wheel.
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It s one of the options.
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Yeah, it s called a Yoke.
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You can get a Yoke.
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I have it on my Tesla.
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I m not really a big fan of it.
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It s just one unit?
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No, it s like you re doing a Formula One car or something.
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It s just not good for parking.
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It s weird for spinning the wheel around.
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It s fine if you re just on the highway.
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I m not I don t even look at my fucking reverse cameras.
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The wheels the way to go.
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What is that?
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That s a cyber truck.
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I don t know if you can get the wheel on the truck.
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Well, that is a wheel No, it s definitely not it s definitely has a top the whole thing about turning is you want to talk Yeah, that ll be fine.
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Yeah, you won t even notice the difference, but I don t know if that s ideal That s how the old Tesla had it like that.
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I must my old one.
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Oh
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Or that s the, no, that s the Cybertrux version?
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Oh, it is.
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I didn t have a, I had something that looked like that, but with a top on it.
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What was the S before that?
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I don t know anything.
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I know X model.
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There was the, what is it called?
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P100D.
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Yeah, when I had a P 100 D, I felt like they had it all down.
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Right.
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There was a blinker switch on the stock, you know, which everybody knows.
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I don t give a fuck.
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I just want to know how to sound system.
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That s how you sell cars to black folks.
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This sound system is good.
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And that s it.
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So yeah, that s the only way to do it.
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Do you ever drive an electric car, though?
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Yeah.
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It s weird because you want to go vroom, vroom, and you re like, just whoosh.
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You ll blow that shit up.
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Yeah, but I wanted to at least drive one.
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I was thinking about it.
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It d be something fun to do.
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It s a fun thing.
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They re big as shit, though.
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That s a big truck.
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I heard the waiting list is like a year, right?
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Is it?
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Yeah, that s what the streets were saying.
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The streets.
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Yeah, the streets are very important.
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You gotta listen to the streets.
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If you don t listen to the streets, you could be in big trouble.
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Waiting list of a year.
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In one year, what are the odds civilization exists?
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It s not 100%.
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You got me planted.
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It s not 100%.
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Just give me a good Austin.
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Joe s trying to kill me off.
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Just give me a good 20.
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You have an unofficial dad.
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Yeah.
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One year I d say we re like 50-50.
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But the thought of that is very interesting, and I think you re 100% right.
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Yeah.
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Especially with this election coming up.
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Trump s going to win.
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I m not saying I m a supporter, but I cannot see how he s not going to win.
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I don t know if they re really going to have Biden against Trump.
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I m not convinced of that.
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What s the options?
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He resigns.
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I feel like I should be able to answer that question.
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You should be able to answer that.
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You should be on CNN.
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I feel like... Did Kamala steps up, but she doesn t.
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Look, at any moment... First of all, the stress of being the president must be insane.
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Insane stress, right?
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It makes everybody look old.
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He was already very old and not just...
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chronologically, but biologically.
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People keep pointing to his age and Trump s age, like stop doing that.
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It doesn t make any sense.
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I know what you re trying to say, that they re similar in chronological age, but they re definitely not similar in the effect of decay.
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Like one guy is at least- Trump feels like he s sharp.
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... reasonably sharp.
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Right.
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You know, reasonably sharp.
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But there are reasonably sharp businessmen that exist that into their 90s can have great conversations with people.
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They re sharp.
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But Biden has problems.
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There s problems there.
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It feels like his motor skills are off.
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It feels like you couldn t.
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Yeah, to deny that, you re not helping anybody.
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But do you think his mind is still alert?
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No, I don t think so.
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No, I think he forgets all kinds of crazy things.
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I met Muhammad Ali in the airport, like, maybe five or six years before he passed away.
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And it was interesting, because I was dating this chick, I knew she was young.
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Because I said, we were walking, and she said, oh, there go Muhammad Ali.
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And she kept walking, right?
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I m like, fuck you mean?
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The, like, Arab Muhammad Ali, or Ali Muhammad?
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She said Muhammad Ali, I m like, weird.
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I saw Muhammad, I just,
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like anybody would do.
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I was like, oh shit, it s Muhammad Ali.
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And I walked, he was in one of those, you know, like the cars, the electric cars, the ambulance.
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And I was, everybody was going up to him and I was like, I just want to shake your hand, right?
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I said, I just want to touch you and his hands was like shaking but his eyes were alert like motherfucker, you know, like You know, yeah cool, but what I said like biting this motor skills seem like this he s off But I wonder if his mind is still sharp enough to go another four years.
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The answer is no
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It s not fair.
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It s not fair to him.
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All those people under him, they should be asking him to step down and let a democratically elected person that can actually lead the country take his place.
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But who is that?
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They re not going to do that because they don t really care.
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They just want to win.
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They want to stay in power.
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Well, they want to stay in power.
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Listen, if they didn t want to stay in power, if they brought in Gavin Newsom, Gavin Newsom, once he gets in, he brings all of his own people.
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And now there s different people, and a bunch of these people get fired.
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A bunch of these people are gone.
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A lot of the people that work for the other administration, you got to realize that he s that old and that fucked.
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You know how you get rid of- Who s running the thing?
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The people behind him are running the thing.
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You know how you get Biden out, Joe?
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How do you get Biden out, Donnell?
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Have him sign for bad boy, with Puffy s bad boy.
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He probably could talk him into it for the country.
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If he signs a bad boy, it s over.
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But I don t know how anybody s going to beat Trump.
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Yeah, it doesn t seem like they re going to.
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They keep trying to arrest him.
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And the crazy thing is this dude has been very competitive and with for the most part no news coverage.
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SPEAKER_00
I haven t seen a commercial.
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Well the news coverage is always he s going to jail.
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Right.
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That s the news coverage.
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Which gets his base super excited.
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It s like they got the thing is they got lied to for so long that they they don t know what to believe anymore So in the early days it was Russia Trump was colluding with Russia.
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There s a Russia collusion Russia Russia Russia Turn out to not be true
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And they couldn t prove it.
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And so these people talked about nothing but that for years.
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So now when he s going to jail and getting mug shot.
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Who s going to jail?
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Well Trump went, they arrested him.
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They gave him a mug shot.
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Like jail?
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I don t know where the fuck he went but they took a mug shot photo of him.
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That s like a polaroid.
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They probably brought that shit to where he was.
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I think they had him taken to a courthouse or something.
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When Jamie comes back from the bathroom, we ll ask, but it s like, I think he had to go to some courthouse or something like that to get arraigned.
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So, when the stuff like that happens, and people have already gone through years of the Russia bullshit, they don t believe you anymore.
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And so now... No, the people that really follow him believe, not anymore, they believe everything.
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They believe him.
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Yeah.
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I mean, they don t believe the media anymore, when I m saying you, the media.
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Jamie, where did they take Trump when they took that mugshot photo of him?
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Where was he?
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Was he at a jail?
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Was he at a courthouse?
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Where was he?
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He was in his side room in his house.
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He was in Bariloco.
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He has golf shorts on.
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Yeah, with a green screen.
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He had a green screen background.
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Fulton County Jail in Atlanta.
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Fulton County Jail in Atlanta.
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Oh, he did a bit.
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They call it, oh, he went to jail jail.
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Yeah, jail jail.
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But he wasn t there long enough to get a sandwich or anybody to shake him.
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No, but he was there long enough for them to take one of the greatest photos in the history of the world.
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Look at that photo.
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That looked like his regular campaign photo.
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Well, a lot of people used it.
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They used it.
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Look at it before.
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It is crazy, man.
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It s crazy that they re going after him for what they re going after him for.
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The whole thing is so transparent.
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Like, the people that support Donald Trump want to support him to the day that they die.
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You re not going to change it.
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And as many times you indict him, whatever, all it does is invigorate that base and those people, they get more excited and more excited.
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Well, people think that they re going to change your mind because they don t like something, but that doesn t always really work.
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And a lot of times it has the opposite effect because they don t like why you re trying to change their mind and how you re trying to distort
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The facts of things and only concentrate on negative things just to try to change a perspective and to lie and gaslight And tell me that Biden s sharper than ever like when they start saying things like that.
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Okay, you I now Everyone knows you re bullshitting.
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Okay.
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Now you re just playing a game So if you ve if you ve agreed that sometimes you re gonna play this game We re gonna say things that don t make any sense that you know aren t true that I know aren t true
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and you re going to put them in the newspaper and you re going to put them on television.
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But can you still respect a person?
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Because not the issue, but so much, this is the part, not you, but so much that s so fucked up about politics is that when people like personally
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can t stand someone because of what their political views are.
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Right, because of their politics.
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That s silly.
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In this business right here, that s a hard thing to subscribe to.
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That s not a good mark of a man, for sure.
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A man that can t have a calm, relaxed disagreement with someone, with another man.
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You know, that s not a good sign of your self-control.
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That s probably not a good sign also of the why in which you engage in conversations.
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Because there s just far too many people that engage in conversations just trying to win.
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Because they ve got it in their head that they have an idea and they want to argue their idea better than your idea.
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It s like a verbal sparring.
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It s like a baby mama joke.
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I m sure.
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I m sure.
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They just want to get that argument and win it.
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They want to win it.
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Yeah.
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So that s a real problem that people have.
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It s a real problem.
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Because it doesn t do anybody any good.
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It doesn t do you good, even if you win.
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And more people are going to try to do it back to you.
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It s way better to just not be- Not engage.
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Or not be attached to your ideas to the point where you identify with them.
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But instead,
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just say, why do you think that?
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And then they tell you.
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This sounds like therapy in regard to co-parenting.
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That s what I m doing right now?
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That s what it sounds like.
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It s so fucking relatable.
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Well, it should be that way with all human beings.
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You re so lucky you don t have to co-parent.
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I m very lucky.
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But also, I think with co-parenting, it s uniquely stressful.
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Because then the mother starts dating another guy, you start dating another woman.
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But what about if it, wait, why does she got to date first?
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Why does she got to date first?
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It s probably hot.
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But the point is it s like it doesn t do anybody any good, but it s also so emotionally stressful, right?
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I agree with but I m gonna tell you this is my thought on Copra to first off first part beginning of Copra
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to the first thing you as a first thing you don t this is what makes the best first thing is that person can t get happy before you.
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that would ruin you on the inside.
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So both people are trying to find happiness before the other one.
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You don t want that person.
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That s the beginning of co-parenting.
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You re like, fuck that, why didn t it work?
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And then as it goes on for a while, then you start thinking about what is in the best interest?
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What s the best interest for the kid?
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And that usually is not the first beginning of it, because the beginning of it, you don t give a fuck.
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And it s also like an emotional challenge.
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It s a challenge to just try to like get better control of your ability to communicate and just into, you know.
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I think you, and I know a lot of people in this situation, you grow into it.
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I never thought in my situation that would be me.
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I remember I was dating
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this woman some years ago.
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And her parents had split up when they were, their brother, sister was really, really young.
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And the time we were dating, that family used to get together for holidays.
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They weren t seeing each other anymore.
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They would get together on holidays.
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They d get together for Sunday dinner.
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And I was like, they must still be fucking or something, right?
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Because I thought that that s the only way.
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Then I realized that in one situation with my son,
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I realized they were just trying to give the kids as much family and as a regular life as they possibly could, not being together.
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And that experience made me want to be a better co-parent with my son.
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And we finally at the point where we get along and we know the best interest at the end of the day is what we do for Austin.
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That s great.
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Yep.
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It s totally doable and people change.
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You know, they change as they get older.
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People evolve.
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You get better at communicating.
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That s, again, that s what I was saying about arguing about ideas.
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It s not a good sign of a man.
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Like getting angry, like verbally abusive, shitty, insulting, like what people tend to go to right away because they re just trying to win and they re trying to like break the person down as they re trying to win the argument.
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And I think it s real tempting.
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And it s tempting to people because people like to be good at stuff.
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And if you think you re smart, and you think you got somebody, and you re good at something, and you can chase it down.
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I mean, I don t argue.
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If I ever argue, it s because I know I m going to win.
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Hmm, that s the only time if I if there s a like you argue if you re right for sure.
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Yeah, right Yeah, and that s been in relationship.
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Like if I argue it s just not like I m flying off the time like this I have everything to win this argument That s why I don t get a lot of arguments because a lot of my can t win So I m like, I ll just stand back and just take the abuse I don t mind arguing and sometimes when you have to say something because someone s saying something ridiculous and
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And you gotta go, dude, stop.
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That doesn t make any fucking sense.
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Stop saying that.
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I agree.
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Because otherwise, sometimes people will pollute the environment with a bad idea.
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I ve had that situation in black podcasting.
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I had a situation, and I know I will leave names out, but the thing, like you said, with someone, to hear, you know, as a comment, to hear, you re not funny.
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Equal in the common world of comedy.
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That s like the the n-word of comedy.
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It s also it s very triggering triggering I feel like it s a cry for help.
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Yeah, almost always Almost always I mean there s there s some shit that people so there s a lot of shit Kat Williams said that it turned out to be true, but I think there s there s this quote is that
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All criticism is a tragic result of unmet needs.
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That s a part of the quote.
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But that part of the quote always resonates with me.
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That s what it is.
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These people, the reason why they re lashing out and saying you re not funny.
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There s not more productive shit to do.
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You re trying to attack someone who s getting more attention than you?
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Why?
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But I know that s a painful- That s not real.
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That s not real.
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It still hurts, Joe.
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To you, Joe.
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But you shouldn t feel it at all.
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Joe, I still read fucking comments, man.
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They re still going from the RZA episode.
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They won t let go.
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They won t.
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That s the first thing I told Darnell after the RZA episode.
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I said, don t read the comments.
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And that first thing I did, it s just so hard.
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It s just so hard, because it d be going so well, Joe.
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It d be going so well.
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He s a beast.
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I love him.
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Top five.
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And then boom.
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He gets you.
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And the whole fucking day is shut the fuck down.
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Yeah, you don t want that in your life, Darnell.
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I don t listen.
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I can get to there, but I don t listen.
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But this is something you have to take into consideration.
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I think that, especially with someone like you, who s a public figure.
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Motherfuckers still think I ran off me.
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Look at that.
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That was a dress.
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I texted him the other day.
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He thanked.
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Oh, that was a good one.
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Yeah.
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I like that photo, Brody, that painting.
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We got to put that back up in here.
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Yeah, but that s the day you made me stay.
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Yeah.
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You said, fuck my kid.
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You said, fuck my kid.
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I did not say that.
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I said, I want to go home and see my son.
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I definitely did not say that.
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You was like, you was like, got your kid, baby mama, RZA.
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I said, dude, the RZA s coming next.
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Don t you, do you want to hang out?
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Because we were just having a fun time.
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But the minute, Joe, the minute I said, man, I haven t seen my son in two weeks, you supposed to have been like this.
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Oh, get out of here.
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Go do that.
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You heard me say, I want to see my son.
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And you said, I don t know.
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It s Derrizza, and I stayed.
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Just to get abused.
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Yeah, that was easy.
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The devil just whispered in your ear.
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Yeah.
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I told you I d dance with a marionette as well.
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Just to be abused.
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No, listen, man, the podcast was fun.
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It was funny.
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It was a great podcast.
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But these comment motherfuckers, Joe, they fucking evil, man.
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But Donnell, it doesn t matter.
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It doesn t matter.
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They won t be invited to my church.
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They re welcome to their opinion.
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They re not coming to my church.
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You don t want that in your head.
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I don t, but I can t stay away from them.
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Fuck them.
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They should all be able to just let people go.
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Just don t read it.
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It s not good for you.
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Even the good stuff s not good for you.
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That s the good shit.
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Top five, Mount Rushmore.
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Hell yeah, killed, murdered.
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That s how I want to be supported.
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When we be on artificial intelligence, I want them to be on my dick.
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It will be.
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I want them to be like, oh, best, top fives.
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Oh shit, you got to see them, underrated.
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I don t want to hear none of that shit, lame, cringe.
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That s kind of like what we were talking about earlier, like if artificial intelligence gets to the point where it can formulate a game plan and you actually follow that game plan.
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If artificial intelligence says, Donnell, we have sat down and devised a strategy to radically improve your popularity and your ticket sales.
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This is how we re going to do it.
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I love it.
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And it lays it out for you.
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It tells you what to do and you re going to develop a YouTube video every three or four months and put out a clip and do this.
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I would love it.
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I bet it would work.
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creativity at this point has to come from a person like especially like your kind of like joke writing like the things you make fun of things that i make fun of the things that make that are like unique to like whoever the individual is the only thing that s going to save us and that s the people if it s possible
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is that now, oh my God, they re gonna be making robots.
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Seeing a motherfucker live is gonna be something about seeing somebody live.
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I think that s the only thing that s saving TV is sports events.
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That s the only thing people really, really tune into is what do I have to watch in that moment.
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Yeah, if you re watching a football game, that is actually happening.
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There s a scramble, the ball gets thrown, someone s trying to catch it.
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If you re watching a fight, dude s getting knocked out.
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You re watching actual things that are happening in real time.
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But if you re not, man...
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And within four or five years, everything s going to be generated from a computer.
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And who knows how you re going to interface with it?
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Because they just started releasing these Apple Vision Pros.
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I saw those.
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Which are crazy.
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You can walk around in them.
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So you can be sitting in your living room with a giant screen and move things around and swipe things to the left and swipe things to the right.
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So you can actually see stuff like glasses.
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Like I can walk, I can see like this.
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You can walk around.
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Yeah.
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And then you have things that are in front of you.
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So you could sit down
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and have an enormous movie screen in front of you and watch Avatar in 3D and just sit there like, whoa.
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Or you can have a fucking spreadsheet and open it up.
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You can open up a website.
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You can fucking play video games.
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And just by with your head in your hand?
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That s fucking crazy.
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Yeah.
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I don t want to, I m gonna stick up.
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Five years from now, Darnell, with AI?
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Think about that with AI, where it just,
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Brings you into a world where you literally feel like you re in that jungle in avatar with the Flying plants and all the Navi and all the fucking those crazy animals on the ground imagine like that being around you like indistinguishable from reality smells taste and
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Everything.
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All programmed into your mind, syncing your brain up with whatever this code is.
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You re not recruiting me.
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You re not recruiting me.
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And I ll tell you what, you know where I m going to go.
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I m going to go to the woods.
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I m going to go to the river.
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I m going to say, you can have your fucking 3D glasses.
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I m going to go to the
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I m going to crawdad fish.
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I m going to take my son and let him ride ramps to the backyard.
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I m going to do regular shit while you re dealing with all of this 3D AI shit.
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And I m going to get fucking David Tell s phone where nobody can get in touch with me.
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Look at that.
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That guy s just watching YouTube.
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She s yelling at him and he s watching basketball games.
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Oh, now he s in the woods.
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Look at that.
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Oh, that s where I m going.
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Come on, how beautiful is that?
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It s kind of amazing.
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I m going to the woods.
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The real woods.
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I want to go to the real woods.
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And again, that s one of the things I like about Yellow Springs, Ohio.
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And being there is disconnecting and going and do some regular shit.
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The only thing that s going to save us from all of this alien shit and everything, you know, Joe, is this.
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Sleeping in the woods?
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That s not sleeping.
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That s chilling.
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Chilling.
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That s plants.
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That s some regular shit.
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The only thing that s going to save civilization is the woods, Joe.
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That s it.
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Doing regular shit and appreciating regular shit.
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You re halfway there.
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You like the woods to kill shit, but have you ever thought about living there?
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No, I do.
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I like the woods, period.
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I don t just like the woods to kill shit.
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You don t do shit but kill shit in the woods, man.
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No, no, I go in the woods.
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When s the last time you did it?
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Sunday.
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Non-killing-something-in-the-woods.
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Sunday.
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What was it?
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Went hiking.
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Did you have a bow?
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Did I have a what?
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A bow, just in case.
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No, I had my dog.
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Did you have a knife?
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I always have a knife on me.
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Okay, so you was prepared.
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No, I was hiking.
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That s what s going to save us.
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I was outside in nature having a good time.
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It was beautiful.
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That s the only thing.
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It may sound simple.
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That s the only thing that s going to save us is getting in touch with nature.
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That s the only motherfucking thing.
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I disagree.
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I think we re fucked.
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I think getting in nature is going to be good for the individual, but I think for the species, I have a feeling we re the last of the Mohicans.
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I m not trying to save everybody.
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Just me and my boy in the fucking woods.
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You guys will be fine.
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I feel like the human race, as this thing comes alive, I think we re greatly underestimating the impact that it s going to have.
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We re not underestimating, because you talk about it all the time, and you know everything about it.
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I learned more about what I m preparing for in 10 years.
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I definitely don t know everything about it.
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In fact, my knowledge of it is pretty limited.
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And a lot of it is speculative and unfounded.
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For the average...
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So for the average person that s never gonna challenge you, that still has a flip phone, and that part of it, you know way more.
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And what you re saying is very fucking believable.
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We are doomed.
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What was disturbing to me, I had a conversation with Ray Kurzweil.
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who s one of the big names in artificial intelligence.
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And he s all super rosy about the future of AI and that it s inevitable and that we re all gonna do this.
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And I m like, well, what if someone gets in control of this?
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Someone, it is gonna be somebody in control.
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And that s what scares the shit out of me, dude.
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And no one seems to have an adequate answer for that.
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And Elon is terrified of that too, which really makes me scared.
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If that fucking dude s scared of it, okay.
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So that means that they know that we are building the type of technology that at some point we won t be able to control is gonna control us and take over us.
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It s inevitable that that s gonna happen.
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Or we merge with it or we scale up our ability to control it as it gets implemented.
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So even though it s more intelligent than us, we can still control it.
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But we always gonna have a nutty professor.
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Well the thing is if it becomes a living thing, right, so what they re doing right now is everything exists in an actual computer.
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There s nothing that exists in a physical form except these robots that they re using to like clean up kitchens and shit.
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Have you seen those yet?
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No, I haven t.
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It s disturbing.
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You talk to the robot, and the robot can pick plates up and put them in the drying rack, and it talks to you.
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And I look at it, and I m like, okay, that is just a really crude, shitty, like, I compare it to the Model T. Like, that s a Model T. And if you look at the exponential increase in technology, like, look at, what was the first year you got a phone?
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What year was that?
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Me, phone, it had to be probably, oh, shit.
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Earl, uh,
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Probably like 82.
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Damn, you had an early one.
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I was fronting like I was a drug dealer.
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You had an 82?
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Yeah, that was the thing.
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Did you have the briefcase?
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I had the briefcase joint, yeah.
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I had one that was built into my car in 88, but then I couldn t afford that.
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I didn t get another phone after that.
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It was about minutes.
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You couldn t afford that shit.
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It was too expensive.
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My shit didn t work, I just had it.
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But I had a job back then, too.
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But then I got another one, I think in 94.
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I think it was 93, that s right.
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And it was a Motorola StarTAC.
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I remember when that was the coolest shit you could have.
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That was only 30 years ago.
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Right.
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Okay, 30 years ago.
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From that to what you have today is insane.
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Insane.
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The only thing, Joe, this is the only thing that s gonna save humanity.
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Battery life.
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Yeah, but China has developed these nuclear powered batteries.
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We were just talking about that.
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They can power a cell phone for 50 years.
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Yeah, I don t know if this is just theoretical or if they ve actually implemented it.
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The motherfucker battery has to die.
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Not necessarily.
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It s just a matter of what they use for the fuel.
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What we re dealing with now is no different than what every civilization has always been dealing with.
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If you could go back to the 1700s before they had
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vaccines before they had antibiotics and medication and just show those people back then a cell phone they would think you re a wizard or which a witch a witch a warlock a satanist and if you called somebody to answer they would really thought that you were the devil
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Insane if you were talking to someone FaceTime from another place, that s normal shit now Whatever the fuck that robot is you take that robot that cleans kitchens and scale that bitch up 200 years from now You got a sexy lady who s in lingerie?
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Cleaning your house and sucks your dick and you re never gonna mess with real ladies again and then the human race goes extinct and
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Because no one wants to breed anymore.
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That s how they re going to do it.
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Human race is going to go extinct when there s a female robot that can make a sandwich and suck a dick.
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This is what I think.
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That s what you think?
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Yeah.
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I like the way you think.
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That s what I think.
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But it s going to be another fucking robot hating on the bitch.
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Nope.
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She s sucking his dick, but she s not making money with him.
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They re going to be perfect.
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The robots only want to please us, so we die off.
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The robots want to leave all the ladies barren, and all the men, just no jizz.
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They just suck them off all day, and then leave them ambitionless, childless, and then they die off.
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The funny thing is, what you re saying is, all I m thinking about is, I did a roast with Whitney Cummings, and they had a robot of her, and I was thinking just now, who fucked Whitney s robot?
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Somebody did.
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Somebody did.
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Somebody did.
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She probably let her boyfriend do it.
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Somebody fucked that robot.
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Shout out to her robot.
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Wendy s the type of bitch that ll tell someone, stick your dick in that robot before me.
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I want to watch.
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Do it.
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I don t know if she got down like that, but that sounds like... I don t know.
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I m guessing.
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Yeah.
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She would be, and be experimental too.
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She d be like this, okay, let s shoot this.
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Fuck my robot s mouth.
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She s a mom.
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I talked to her like three weeks ago.
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It s so cool seeing her.
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It s wild, right?
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Being her be a mom.
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She s so smart.
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She s going to be a great mom.
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She s such an interesting person.
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And I asked her, I said, you know, with the success that you ve had and everything, you re doing well for yourself, you do well for other people, you help other people.
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I said, do you think, because that s a tough question for successful women in this business.
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I said, do you feel like having a baby boy completed you?
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And she said, yes.
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And that s a tough thing, because sometimes women are so career-driven that that part of them, or that part of the experience of life, they don t really care about it or just say it s embarrassing.
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But she said that she does feel complete, and it makes her a better person.
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And she s got a nice mommy, mom energy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think- And then she ran out of animals to buy.
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That s when white women- Doesn t she have a horse?
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She has a horse.
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White women buy horses?
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She has rescue horses.
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Yeah, rescue horses.
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When they start buying different animals, like animals that the average person don t have, like orangutans and shit like that, that s when they be like, yep, I m about to have a baby.
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She connected me with the people that run this wolf sanctuary, and I went up to the wolf sanctuary, and I thought I was going to like it, but I didn t like it at all.
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I didn t like it at all.
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I didn t like it at all.
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What do you think she thought you were going to enjoy about it?
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I don t know.
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I mean, like they re helping these wolves and they re preserving these wolves and they take wolves off of ranches and capture them and keep them in this place.
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But man, it just it just bummed me out big time.
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time the males have all been castrated they ve all been fixed yeah that bummed me out then then they re all in these cages and they re getting stared at so they re not preserving the race I mean they re not preserving they let them out they interact with them you can interact with some but it it overwhelmingly bummed me out because I you know I m
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I don t like the idea of wild predators being trapped in cages.
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I went to the zoo.
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I took my son to the zoo and it was like one of the best worst experiences I had.
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Yeah.
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It s just the excitement.
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It s just like how much we so selfish.
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The excitement of like it was one of the tigers came out of the cage and everybody was like.
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Oh my God, yeah, they start clapping for the tiger.
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And I m like, this motherfucker s used to walking like 50, 60 miles a day to try to kill some shit.
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And this motherfucker s in 300 square feet and we re clapping for it.
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And it just felt, the excitement that the kids had was one thing, but knowing what has to go down.
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And then for the people, here s the people that got the toughest job.
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The tour, people that speak on the animals and everything.
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They d be like, and this is Zimba, Zimba s looking a little frustrated today.
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You know, the ones that gotta make it feel like they re having a happy experience.
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Yeah, cause everybody been throwing shit at this motherfucker.
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Of course, you would be frustrated too, but it feels so wrong and so right at the same time.
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Yeah, safari, I wanna go on a safari.
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That s real, that s the real thing.
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Safari s a different thing.
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The thing that bums me out is the primates.
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I went to the gym, or the zoo, rather, in Denver, and I remember we had gotten there right when this, like, we turned around this monkey cage right when this monkey was just wailing.
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He just decided, like, he couldn t take it anymore, and he s in this cage, and he s wailing.
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I m like, what year did they decide they couldn t take it anymore?
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Wearing it like he s wanting to get the fuck up out of here?
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But I was on an edible.
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Okay.
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And I just was feeling this monkey s pain, the screaming.
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He was just screaming, no!
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Because it s this little ass cage as small as this room.
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And he s just running around grabbing branches.
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He s bored as fuck, man.
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Now you add motherfuckers taking pictures of you all fucking day.
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Yeah.
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I had, my son, this is so fucked up, and I know I shouldn t have did it, but I rented a monkey.
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Right?
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It was, we had a petting, whole thing.
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I rented a monkey, and the monkey definitely had some shit going on, right?
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Because they gave the monkey, I feel so bad.
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Everybody was at the monkey, looking at the monkey, and all of a sudden, I heard everybody say, ew, yuck.
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The monkey was eating a lollipop, jerking off.
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Yo, yo, Joe, I swear, in my church, I swear my son s life, everybody was like, where the fuck you get this monkey from?
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That s hilarious.
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Right?
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But now, it s like, you know the phrase, had his trainer monkey see monkey do something.
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I m just thinking, the trainer just sits around his monkey.
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Eat a lollipop, jerk it off.
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And the monkey was looking like, he was looking like, I wish the fuck somebody would say shit.
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Put the cover back on, leave me the fuck alone.
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And the monkey was looking people directly in the eyes, Joe.
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It wasn t like the monkey discovered it.
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It was like, this monkey s like, this is how we get the fuck off work early.
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Did you ever see that video of the dude who s like sitting there and a monkey hops in his lap and then he s like trying to be cool with this monkey and the monkey just decides to scalp him?
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Just bites his head and takes a giant chunk of his scalp off.
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Have you ever seen it?
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No, I don t really go for those types of ... Do you want to see it?
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I really don t.
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You don t want to see it?
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I m not built for that.
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I don t like skirmishes.
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That s amazing.
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You have amazing willpower.
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I don t want to do it.
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I would definitely want to see it.
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I d be like, what?
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Show me that.
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I don t want ... That s the difference.
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You re very into that.
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That s like that nature medal, one of those websites where ... Nature s medal, yeah.
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It s like, yeah, I can t handle that shit.
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But man, taking one of those creatures and forcing it to live in captivity is torture.
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It s torture.
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And it has to be a point.
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where they know it s gonna be the breaking point.
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Yeah, that monkey, when I turned the corner, like right when I was going towards the cages, I just watched him just jump on the cage.
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It s just like... And you just kept on.
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You take pictures?
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No, man, I got bummed out.
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I got really bummed out.
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That s gotta that might have been the one no I definitely went to zoo after that and I know when they go I wonder what most of those monkeys they get them from when they were babies, right?
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Yeah, but it doesn t matter.
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It s still torture.
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It s still torture.
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You think that I think you think that monkey would could like if you was like fucking we re leaving
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And you think, and you just took him to the jungle, that he could... No, he s fucked.
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He d get fucked up, right?
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He d get fucked up.
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Yeah, he wouldn t be a part of a troop.
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Why?
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Because he wouldn t know how to fight or none of that shit, right?
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He probably wouldn t be socialized.
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He wouldn t know the dynamics of socializing.
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Waiting for a fiend driving his shit, knowing that it s every man for himself, every monkey for himself.
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Yeah, he would have no idea.
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He would be fucked.
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They d probably kill him.
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It s, when I was in Costa Rica, I saw a monkey, there s monkeys everywhere, and one monkey was missing a foot.
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Like, one of his hands was gone.
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And I said to the dude, I go, what happened to him, do you think?
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And he s like, oh, they bite each other s hands off all the time.
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I was like, what?
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They bite each other s hands off?
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They re primitive.
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They re monkeys, Joe.
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What the fuck do you want them to do?
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I know, but they re also resort monkeys, so they come around and try to get Oreos from you, candy bars.
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But they want that from you and people give it to them and so you could watch them They ll take an oreo and open it up and eat the white stuff.
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They re used to like what do you know how to do that?
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Like they know how to do that and that s the only thing they re accustomed to and then you if they go to regular woods And they d be like get your bitch ass oreo cooking eating ass mother forgot it they could tell you could tell a difference between a mongrel a monkey that grew up on Grabbing his food and a motherfucking is still in Oreos.
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Yeah
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It s in their eyes I m sure of it.
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Well monkeys can get to populations that are very big and then they get super aggressive and then you re you got real problems you got real problems that happens in India like there was one monkey there a dog I guess had killed one monkey.
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And so because of that, they just decided to start killing dogs.
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I remember that, and that felt like a movie.
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I remember that.
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It was like monkeys from everywhere, just like, any dog, go in your house, because it s going to be a problem.
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Bro, they were throwing dogs off roofs.
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They were dragging little dogs.
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The monkeys were.
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And it looked like they knew, like, yo, we re going to get these motherfuckers.
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Oh, they did know.
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They did know.
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Two killer monkeys captured in India after a revenge massacre of 250 dogs.
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Bro, where my dogs at that is so crazy 250 they re fucking smart and they re fucking dangerous and the thing is like they ll steal your baby, man They ll steal kids.
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They re fucking they re not stealing my baby.
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Not yours, but if you re not paying attention
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They re creeps.
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They have to give you a warning, like these are the baby snatching.
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I mean, it s like, here s the baby snatching monkeys.
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Here s the Oreo eating monkeys.
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And here are just the monkey monkeys with all the mental issues.
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Did you ever see the footage of Thailand when they were rampaging through the streets because all the tourists were gone because it was COVID?
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No.
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You ever see that?
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It s insane.
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The monkeys just took up... They were so used to the tourists.
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So used to the tourists feeding them.
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Look at all these monkeys.
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Oh, that s the one I was talking about.
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God damn.
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How crazy is that?
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I mean, there s so many of them, man.
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They re everywhere.
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So if you re around them, man, you re in danger.
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If you have food, you re fucked.
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They will 100% take your food.
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And if you try to fight them, they ll pull your fucking face off.
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They re like the riots.
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Bro, there s so many of them.
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That looks great.
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What is the number of monkeys were in that?
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Does it say?
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The video says thousands.
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God.
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Bro, you gotta start shooting monkeys.
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Somebody needs to go out there with a shotgun and start taking care of business.
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I m not going anywhere with wildlife other than the woods.
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I deal with snakes and shit like that.
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Bro, ancient Thai cities overrun with monkeys.
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Look, as long as they stay cool.
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But I guess you just have to feed them to keep them cool.
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There s not gonna be enough food.
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I guess if they, like... He put a tiger head in the shop to scare him away.
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No, did he really?
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I got a tiger s head as well.
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That s hilarious.
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Like, he doesn t know that monkey knows that that thing doesn t move.
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There s gonna be one monkey to go touch it, like, no, motherfucker, get the fuck up outta here.
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Yeah, that s bullshit, man.
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Look, they re just hanging.
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Look at the balls on that monkey, too.
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Increasingly aggressive.
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Street brawls.
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Whoa.
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Rival macaque gangs.
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World star.
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World star.
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Bro, they have rival gangs of monkeys.
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That s crazy.
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It affects their health when they eat human food.
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Yeah, they fucking feel better.
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The more energy they have, yeah.
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If they eat human food, it s probably better.
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I watch that and I say, God bless America.
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If you could give monkeys cheeseburgers, they d be pumped.
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But then you have a monkey like this.
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say double double like no it ll be monkeys come over here oh man that s how people from different cities come in like this is my first in-and-out burger that s what I would be here s the thing about those monkeys in Thailand was that always like that like when did they get overrun by monkeys
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Like, did they have those amount of monkeys 20 years ago?
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You know what I m saying?
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I think it would probably be during the pandemic when it got real crazy.
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Well, I think that got real crazy where they wanted to gangs and they started like, because there s no more food because the tourists weren t there.
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They was like separating which one, east side, west side monkey.
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But my thought was like, were there that many of them in cities 20 years ago or is that a recent thing?
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You know, is that a thing where they re figuring it out, and then their population s gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger?
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Joe, they re getting prepared for AI.
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They know it s coming.
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I don t think they are.
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They re getting prepared for AI.
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They know that once they create the first
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Monkey created through artificial intelligence that all of them going to they re gonna be out of business They re prepared for it the same way, but they just not talking about it Joe And that s the only thing that separates them from us is the ability to communicate Speculation this monkey is taking the same shit that you re missing monkeys are going missing They re seeing less numbers in the streets
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And they re speculating.
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They re leaving Hollywood.
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They re leaving Hollywood.
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Traffickers have snuggled them out of the country.
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They re leaving, Joe.
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I think I accidentally said snuggled them.
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I meant smuggled them.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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They re leaving Hollywood.
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They re going somewhere else where it feels safer and it s easier.
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Same thing with me, Joe.
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A lot of them, they go to private zoos, we found out, in the Middle East.
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Everybody can t afford a private zoo.
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A lot of ballers can, though, and that s like a thing, to have a private zoo and to have your own ...
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If you re some dude and you re living in some...
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and then you re putting them in a private zoo to do what?
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What is your life goal after that?
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Well, people stare at those monkeys at their private zoo.
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That s what I think.
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I think there s insanely wealthy people that have private zoos.
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I think it s a normal thing.
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Thousands of monkeys invade Thai City, driving out tourists and businesses.
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This is recently.
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Yeah, so it s like this is back to what it was during the pandemic.
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It looks like they re invading that city.
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They re coming back.
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And it says some investors might take their money out until they address the issue.
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It s about to be some dead, it s about to be some poison.
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They about to poison the shit out them monkeys.
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3,500 monkeys.
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They gonna do some lace Oreos, they about to kill all of them.
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They gonna have to do something like that?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They about to kill, they gonna give them COVID.
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Them monkeys is dead.
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They probably gonna give them some poison.
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I think at a certain point you kind of have to control the population, as sick as that sounds.
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But that s crazy, just let them climb on people.
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They gonna take about a thousand of them,
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Right?
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Put them away.
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Put them away.
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Or just have them somewhere when they want to give them the breed.
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This sounds crazy.
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I think they re just going to poison a fucking load of them.
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I think you were right the first time.
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They can t poison all.
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I m right the second time, Joe.
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Can t kill them all, Joe.
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You don t have to kill them all.
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Then what are you going to do about it?
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There s so many of them.
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You just give it a certain amount of food.
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And the most aggressive ones are the ones that are going to get the food first.
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And so that way you get rid of the most douchey of all the douchey monkeys.
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Then you say okay that makes sense my question would get about 4,000 of them round them up And then they give them some poison the other one is just yeah Listen either one can work, but I think that rounding them up you could probably sell them They re probably worth a lot of money.
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I think there s a lot more of those private zoos than we like to think there are
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Yeah, but I don t know anybody that has a private zoo.
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I don t even know anybody that would know about a private zoo.
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You don t know any oil dudes either.
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There s probably some oil dudes out there that get a private zoo.
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That s the oil dude.
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You got a thousand Ferraris in a private zoo.
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Saudi Arabia.
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Yeah, you got a tiger.
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Dubai.
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You got a fucking bunch of monkeys.
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And you got your own zoo.
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We got these right from Thailand.
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It s not enough of those old dudes to keep the species alive.
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So back to my situation.
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Lock up 3,000 of the monkeys and then poison the rest of them until you can control.
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It s the new Bob Barker.
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Help control the pet population.
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Have your monkeys spayed and neutered.
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We can change the world.
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I think you just got to control the populations.
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And unfortunately, the only way to control the populations is either give them birth control, which is a problem, right?
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That s weird.
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Anyway, in the streets, how s that gonna work?
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Or you have to kill them.
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So for you, you sell them to rich dudes who have their own they ve been there since the 13th century.
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Oh, wow.
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That s a bad idea, Jordan.
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I could just get rid of it.
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Wow.
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How many did they have back then?
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Was it those kind of numbers?
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The numbers have gone up and down.
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I was just reading through a tourist thing about people going to the city.
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Remember, the last train leaves at 1806, so you don t want to get stuck there.
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Oh, my God.
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Stuck by the monkeys?
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Yo, imagine if you get stuck by the monkeys and you got a candy bar, and they just fuck you up.
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You try to eat a candy bar in front of those monkeys, they will fuck you up.
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I think our both of our theories have just been shitted on.
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Yeah, both of them.
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1300.
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It s not going to be enough.
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But then again, how old is that city?
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I think whenever they find groups of people, they probably realize that they re cute, and people give them food if they have any extra.
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Only tourists, and then if the tourists are not going to come, then they go back to their normal wildness.
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Yeah.
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Tourists are the only thing that s probably kept them cool.
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I wonder if wolves will ever get to the point again where they become dogs again.
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Like, the reason why wolves became dogs is because people were having campfires, and the wolves would come around, they d feed them, and those are the ones that stayed closed, their ears got floppier, and then they started breeding them, and then they became dogs over thousands of years.
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I wonder if we ll fuck things up so hardcore that wolves would be so everywhere again, the real wolves would be everywhere again, and we ll start doing dogs again from scratch.
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Which species would be first?
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I know a Chihuahua.
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My punk has dog.
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German Shepherd.
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Yeah, definitely closest one.
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German Shepherd.
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Huskies.
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Huskies, German Shepherds.
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Not a Frenchie.
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They probably looked like that.
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They probably looked like just many, many, many, many ... Because you ve got to think, a dog or even a wolf, how long do they live?
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How long does a wolf live in the wild?
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Is it like a dog or like an old one is like 15, 16 years old?
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How long does a wolf live?
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Life expectancy of a wolf.
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Captivity is up to 20 and this is the wild is no longer than 10 years usually.
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Wow, up to 20 in captivity.
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So it s basically like a dog, up to 20, like dogs that live 20 years.
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So let s imagine
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how many generations you can get just in the course of one person s life.
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You breed when the wolf pup is a year and a half or two years old, you breed them.
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They breed again, they breed again.
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You keep selecting for the ones that are the most docile, the most obedient, floppy ears, shorter snout, and you just keep doing that over and over again.
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Within a couple of hundred years, you have a totally different animal.
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You have a totally different animal, because you re dealing with so many generations.
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And they did it for thousands of years.
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And over hundreds of years, so we re going to have robotic motherfuckers raising these wolf dogs.
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That s your prediction.
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No.
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One of many things can happen.
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One thing can happen is natural disaster.
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Natural disaster, like a big one, like Yellowstone blowing up.
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Yellowstone is a super volcano, and if it blows up, it s like a continent killer.
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It s gonna fuck up the whole continent.
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Does it have the possibility?
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100%.
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100%.
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It goes every six to eight hundred thousand years.
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And I think the last time it went was 600,000 years ago.
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Oh, shit.
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I was preparing for this total eclipse.
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Now the fucking... Nah, the total eclipse is nothing.
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That s April... April 8th.
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That s going to be fun.
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That ll be interesting to watch.
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Are you going to watch it?
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I m going to be in Ohio one day.
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It s going right here.
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It s traveling right above me.
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But they say Ohio is the best place to see it.
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Is that true?
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Dave probably told you that.
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No, no.
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I think Bert Kreischer told me that because he s going to be in it.
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Bert Kreischer is not necessarily Wikipedia.
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Right.
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I don t... Why you hating, man?
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God damn, what s wrong with you today?
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Fuck Whitney and her baby.
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Fuck David Tell.
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Fucking Bert Kreitzer doesn t know shit about anything galactic.
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What the fuck is going?
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It s a new day, Joe.
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So this is the path.
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Yellow Springs is a great spot.
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Right in the center.
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Just as good as here.
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Just as good as here, though.
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Yeah, it s the same path.
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Look, we re in Austin.
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It goes right through us.
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Yeah, but Jamie, I like the idea of me being right.
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I was right.
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You were definitely right, but I mean, it literally passes right through us.
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So where are we, Jamie?
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Go to where we are.
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And this happens every, what, seven years?
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I feel like I ve been to one before.
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So we ll see.
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We ll get a very, very, very, very good view of it, but you need to be about 50 miles.
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What time, Jamie?
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I don t know.
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I think it s like one o clock, it says.
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Yeah.
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a.m.
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of course no p.m.
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p.m.
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p.m.
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p.m.
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you wouldn t I wouldn t be a sonic well there s got to be some places you can go where you don t have to make a big deal out of it you know you can look through that if you have a Tesla with the right roof you can look through that oh yeah because it s got all the protection on it oh that s a red well um Roka is making glasses they re making glasses just specific for this yeah just specific so you can t look at
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for not any period of time?
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It s not good to look at it at all.
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I remember what happened when I was a kid in Ohio.
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Like, I don t know.
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It would have been like 95 or something.
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It was a weird day.
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But it gets really strangely dark outside for a little bit.
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You want to look at it, obviously, because you re attracted to it.
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But it will fuck up your eyes, just like staring at a laser.
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OK.
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It could get bad if you look at it for a long time.
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I don t think I m going to look at it that long.
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Not long enough for it to go bad.
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I mean, it is interesting, but in the greater scheme of the universe, is it that interesting?
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All it is is alignment of stars.
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But it s something that makes it interesting in that it doesn t happen but every, what, ten years.
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That s true.
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Jamie, I m going to send you something because this is interesting.
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Do you remember when Trump looked at the eclipse?
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Oh yeah, he looked right at it, right?
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His blink, squinting his eyes is fucking hilarious.
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Those are the guys that stormed.
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Yeah, he s so ridiculous.
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Hold on, gotta find this fucking thing.
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Joe, you asked me time and time again about my special, you didn t even watch it.
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Nope.
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I don t watch anything.
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I m too busy right now.
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And plus, I don t even know if I got a link.
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Someone send me a link?
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You d have to like send me a link for me to watch it.
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It s streaming on Netflix, Joe.
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Oh, when did it start?
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February 27th.
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Thank you.
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I didn t know.
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February.
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It s streaming.
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It s actually streaming.
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It s on Netflix.
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Oh, you need an advance link.
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No.
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An advance of- You need it before everybody gets to see it.
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I didn t know it was out.
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That s the only way you will watch it if you had a private-
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link with codes and everything, Joe?
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That s how I like to watch things.
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I like to feel special.
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So just like putting the name of it in Netflix is, you don t do that, right, Joe?
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Well, I don t do that anymore.
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So you re preparing for artificial intelligence of a special release?
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Yeah, that s a better way to do it.
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All right.
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That s not what I m saying.
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It came out February 27th, man.
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And it did well.
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People like it.
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The streets like it.
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The streets.
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Yep.
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The creeks.
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The creeks.
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The creeks and the streets like it.
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I m gonna send you this Jamie because this is Just a very strange thing that happened at the club the other night that almost doesn t make sense So we were in the green room Casey Rocket was on stage in the small room and Tony Hinchcliffe was on stage in the big room for
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Fuck Tony Hiddleston.
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Now, the room, the shows had been going on for hours.
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In the small room, it was the open mic.
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So there might have been 20 people on before.
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And in the big room, it started at a different time, and this was 45 minutes into the show.
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So three comedians had gone up.
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But somehow or another, the time synced perfectly within the second.
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For both rooms?
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So as the timer was going off, Bob Biggerstaff, he s the first person to notice it, and he pointed it out to us.
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He s like, go back.
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Computer rebelled really anyway So you had an eclipse of your rooms?
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Yeah, it s like an eclipse This is like an eclipse like the odds of this happening are so small one show started at 10 p.m The or 8 p.m.
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The other show started earlier than that and had like an open mic night so that have like 10 people had been up before and
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And Casey Rocket is on stage, he s at five minutes and 24 seconds, and Tony s on stage in the other room, five minutes and 24 seconds.
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And we were like, this is crazy.
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Like, what are the odds of this happening?
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Now that it happened, like, who would even notice that it happened?
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Bob did.
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If he didn t notice it, it might have been lost in time.
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Yeah, Tony fucking did.
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His fans are...
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Yo, those motherfuckers, boy.
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They re ruthless.
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Going back to not reading the comments, I think the last time I did Kill Tony, it was probably like three or four years ago, right?
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I ll be having a good comment day, Joe.
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Oh, good day.
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Yeah, hey, I love you, I love you.
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Then next thing, we ll ask him if he s gonna walk out on Kill Tony s podcast again.
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Yeah, well, you know.
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What do you do?
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I want to go back.
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Well then go back.
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I m afraid.
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Go back, but be ready.
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Wait a minute.
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First of all, I was ready.
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But you still walked off.
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That s what you believe, Joe?
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Did you not walk off?
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You didn t know the real story?
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That s what you believe?
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I don t know.
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That s all propaganda.
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I had completely forgotten about it.
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I ll tell you what happened.
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I was here first of all.
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I did Tony s show during the pandemic.
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Right.
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When he couldn t get guests.
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Right.
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I risked my fucking life.
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Risked your life.
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For him.
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Right.
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And these punk ass motherfuckers.
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Yes.
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Good show.
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Black Comet goes up.
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I m up.
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I ve been there two and a half hours.
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They just drinking me.
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Tito s and Tito s and Tito s.
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They re forcing you to drink.
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Whatever, I know that I consume Tito s and Tito s.
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Then I had a date, a sushi date.
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You know the sushi spot I m talking about.
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The one that, the private joint.
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It looks like a speakeasy.
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Six people.
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I had a reservation for that.
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So, I m doing this show.
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I told them I m going to the bathroom because I was gonna go eat.
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And they made it look like I ran off the show, Joe.
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Really?
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You went for that bullshit edit.
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I had been on the show for two.
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You should sue.
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It s not a bad idea.
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But I like Tony.
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I don t like just for fucking pain and suffering.
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Just take him to court.
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And it s petty, and I don t really give a fuck.
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Then go back.
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Yeah, I would love to.
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As soon as my schedule allows it, I ll go back.
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Why are you looking at me like I got a problem with going back?
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No, I don t.
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OK, wait a minute.
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Bathroom.
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That is not a comedian.
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OK, go rewind it.
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Now, this is what they did, Joe.
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They showed me talking to the comedian.
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Then look, look.
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All right, watch this.
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Is that me running off in front of a comedian?
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That s like, I ll be right back.
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Going to the bathroom.
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look ghost look keep following it walks off to the bathroom to the bathroom right but what they showed jamie can you i m glad we get to fucking put this idea can you show the edit they did
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Just when Donyell walks off, Donyell walks off and they edit.
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Now watch what they do in the fucking edit.
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Donyell walks off.
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How many times have you watched this?
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Only 4,000.
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Why have you?
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That 4,000.
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Why have you really spent?
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I haven t spent no time.
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I just remember it.
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This is the first time I actually saw the original.
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So they faked.
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Doctored it up.
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They doctored it up.
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The white man.
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That seems okay.
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I make it at race, the white man- I don t feel like they should have done that.
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They shouldn t have done it, but your argument is about that.
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You first thing, and it worked on you, because you said, yeah, that time you walked out just- Can I call Tony right now?
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Yeah, and the way you looked at me, the way you looked at me was like, what you going to do about it?
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Call Tony Henshcliff.
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Oh, please.
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Yeah, did you got that?
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I know it s got to come up.
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I m looking for it.
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The one I found doesn t seem, you re not even in the video yet.
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Yeah, this is, yeah, tell him I m still sensitive about it, and I took him to eat fried chicken.
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Tony Hinchcliffe?
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Hey, dude, I m here.
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You re on the podcast right now.
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I m here with Donnell Rawlings.
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And I m still beefing, motherfucker.
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Tell him the real story.
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Tell him the real story.
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Did you edit the show to make it look like Donnell was upset and that a man clowned him and he walked off the stage?
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Can I say this?
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A black man.
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Did you edit it?
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First off, nothing was edited.
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Tony, you fucking full of shit, man.
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Nothing was edited?
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So, Tony, what you see is actually the true events that took place?
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100 percent and he never, you know, I mean it s absolutely not even in question.
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Is Donnell trying to pull a PR move here?
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This is the reason why black people have issues.
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It s very shady and he s trying to rewrite history.
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All right, Jamie, for me, for the sake of God, now he can t find it.
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This is outrageous, Tony.
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I don t know what to think.
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pictures of him outside of a firehouse after the moment he was saying hi to people at the fire department they were like fans of his and he went and hung out with them he had nothing to do he had nowhere to go
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This is getting worse.
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I can t believe you left out details only to use them as a weapon when confronted by propaganda.
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Kudos to you, sir, for holding your cards.
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No fucking kudos.
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Tony supports black-on-black crime.
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He pitted two black guys against each other.
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Oh, wait a minute.
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I thought you said that you went to the bathroom and none of that stuff happened.
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They edited it.
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I went to the bathroom.
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He said that he was going to the bathroom.
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He walked all the way out the front door.
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Right.
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sushi spot son I left for sushi he said he left for sushi Jamie his reservations were much later than when he
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all right now watch this this is this breaking news donnell rolling walks off now watch the edit hold on he s hold on a second we re watching the video of it right now
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No, you re not I m gonna leave
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Look, I want to go.
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Wrap it up.
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Thank you, Tony.
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Tony, thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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I see the truth now.
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I see the truth.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Don t know.
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Tony s a liar.
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That was shameful.
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I had to go to the bathroom.
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I get it.
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I had to go to the bathroom.
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I get it.
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What am I supposed to do?
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Sit there?
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Act like I m in the woods?
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Yeah, it s just you came to a gunfight with a rubber sword.
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I didn t come to a gunfight.
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I wasn t there for that, Joe.
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I know.
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You were there to host.
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You didn t know you were going to get attacked ruthlessly.
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That s what.
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While you were drunk.
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Yes.
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Too drunk to defend yourself.
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Too drunk.
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That was very abusive.
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Very abusive.
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To our friendship and I called Tony a friend.
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To everything.
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I don t think he realized it was going to happen, though, to be honest.
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No one plans anything on kill time.
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This is what I m saying.
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Black on black crime.
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I was giving this black African-American comedian some good advice on comedy, and then he just started shooting me.
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And I wasn t ready for that.
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I was like, how could you do that to me?
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And then all the white people started laughing.
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Look at the black on black crowd.
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We don t got to do anything.
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They re killing themselves.
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R.I.P.
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George Floyd.
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That s a very interesting way to put it.
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That s exactly what my people saw.
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And it was all in Tony and his crew.
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of Hinchman set it up.
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Interesting.
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Hinchman.
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Hinchcliffe.
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Yes.
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And he lied.
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Just right now.
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People are going to believe that.
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He just lied.
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It seems like he wasn t lying though because we watched the video.
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I don t know what you saw, Joe.
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What did you see?
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I saw something totally different.
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I saw a guy that had to go to the bathroom.
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Okay.
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Okay, we settled it.
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We re in the world of editing.
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I had to go to the bathroom, I went to the bathroom, and then I went to the bathroom, and then I did sushi.
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I really don t care.
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It s a new day.
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I m gonna let it go.
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Yeah, let s let it go.
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Let s let it go.
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Didn t go well.
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Expected it to go.
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But I appreciate the fact checking, and I appreciate the research of the doctored clip you had, Jamie.
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Thank you.
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It is kind of rude, Jamie, that you did that to Donnell.
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I thought that s the one he wanted me to find.
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I mean, you could have put up any clip, but you chose to go with the CGI, AI, doctored Tony Hinchcliffe henchman version.
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Yep.
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That s it.
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But long as that- How many fucking times have you done Kill Tony?
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Three times.
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That s it?
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Yep.
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Really?
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Yeah, I did it in LA.
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Maybe two.
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I did it in LA.
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I had a lot of fun.
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David Lucas was on that one.
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When David Lucas and Tony tear each other apart, it s the hardest I ever laughed.
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David goes after Tony so hard, and they re both laughing really hard at each other, getting clowned.
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But when that man David went at it, it was an example of Jonan because everybody was like, oh, you didn t let him talk.
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I m like, when I came up with roasting, whatever you call it, you don t let nobody talk.
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You just go into that person, you run out of breath or run out of jokes.
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It wasn t like, and now it s your turn, you get three seconds.
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So I m not a big fan of it.
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I don t like roast.
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I might ve been invited to like, or agreed to do like three roasts in my entire career.
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I think they re too personal.
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I think it s, I mean, it s funny to some people, but I think it s just too personal.
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It s too easy just to be disrespectful.
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Oh, it s just a joke.
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You meant that shit and it hurts.
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Yeah, it s a license to be mean.
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Yeah, I don t like it.
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I did Whitney s.
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Whitney called me, I said, I don t like the roast.
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I don t do that thing.
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And then she told me how much I was gonna pay, I said, so I need to be there at five, right?
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We coming off the pandemic, wasn t nobody making money.
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I did it with her.
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Isn t it wild they did it on OnlyFans?
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Like OnlyFans has had comedy specials.
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I know, but it was dope.
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I really think, I really saw her as a producer.
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Doing that and being able to put people together and like she was really, really serious about making it look good, get the right people involved.
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It was fun.
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Yeah.
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She s great at all kinds of stuff.
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She s always juggling things.
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I remember I was talking to her.
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She was in the middle of writing a script, right?
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And she s like, I m going to put the script aside for a minute because I m doing this documentary on violence.
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I m like, what?
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Oh, yeah.
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What?
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Oh, yeah.
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Did I tell you I m having a baby next week?
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I don t have a baby.
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Nine months pregnant, apparently.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah, out of nowhere.
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Picture that.
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Who would have known?
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She s a maniac.
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Yeah, but it was fun.
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It was fun to work with.
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I did it with her.
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I did it with Bert Kreischer, Jim Norton.
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It was some funny guy.
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And we had to roast without having to be too mean.
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That s cool.
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It was cool.
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I had a good time.
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But, I mean, if you ever ... I ll send you the link for my special you can check out.
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No, I ll watch it.
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You re not going to watch it.
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I ll just watch it on Netflix.
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I will.
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SPEAKER_03
You re not going to watch it.
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There s a few that I need to watch.
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I still haven t watched Shane s.
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I didn t watch Dave s last one.
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I don t watch too much stand-up other than a lot.
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I try to balance the amount of entertainment I get in general.
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I know.
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I didn t really expect you to watch it.
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I will watch it.
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Jesus Christ, I m going to watch it.
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You don t have to watch it, Joe.
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I feel like I have to watch it.
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You don t have to watch it, Joe.
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Jamie, doesn t it feel like I have to watch it?
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right now.
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Jamie s watching it right now.
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I like the intro.
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Out of everything, the thing I like the most is the intro.
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Yeah?
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It s good.
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You gotta watch it.
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I ll watch it.
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But you re not, you don t have to, but watch it.
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Because you were like, when is the special coming out?
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You can t probably watch it.
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All right, it was fun.
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Okay, but the thing is net one thing about a special you ve done a lot of them The special thing about him is like, all right, what s what s next it forces you to have to start over Yeah, and it s a lot of people understand the pressure I feel of a special because people always say well I this is what people say It happened to me last week.
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I did a show somebody said I liked the show I just saw more than I liked the special and
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I don t know if people understand the funniest you re probably gonna see a comedian is Right before he shoots a special and right after special also just live is always funnier live is always funny It s way funnier I always say that if you see a really good special a really good special is like 60 to maybe 70% as funny as it is if you were in the place exactly happen
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Probably like 60.
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And that s the hardest thing to capture is that feeling like... You can t capture it.
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With this special for me, first time I was telling you earlier, first time I did it, he can t do it because of the COVID stuff.
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The second time, we were in Napa Valley.
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We were doing some shows there and you know, Chappelle records all of his shows.
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Probably you do the same thing.
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So he asked the producer, Ricky Hughes,
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She said, how many cameras do we have here today?
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She said, we got five.
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He looks at me and says, do you want to shoot your special?
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I m like, when?
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He said, tomorrow.
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I m like, who the fuck says?
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Right.
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But I got excited because I was like, I like the idea of it not being a spectacle.
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Right.
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I like the idea of nobody knowing about it.
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Right.
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It was only three people that knew we were even going to go for it.
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Right.
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Everything else was like a regular show.
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I was like, oh, you know what?
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This would be so dope.
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No pressure.
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Yeah.
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Shot it.
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Killed it, Joe.
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I was doing a regular thing, I wasn t thinking about specials, just a regular show.
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Kilted.
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I m like, oh shit, I called Robbie Pryor, I m like, yo, we got the special.
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He like, let me see it, you been saying that, right?
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Three weeks later, Dave calls me again, I wanna shoot the special over.
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I m like, why?
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He said, I didn t like the production.
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I m like, motherfucker, you re the producer.
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He was like, yeah, but it was really small thing.
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He was like delighting, and then it was people walking past, you know, doing a show.
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And I was like, well, you remember live at Sunset Strip, Richard Pryor, one of the funniest lines you remember, where he was like, look, white people left, they came back, their seat s gone.
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It was in the moment.
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It was live, it felt live.
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That s what I thought, if that felt live.
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He was like, Donnie, we ll put it out.
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But I m telling you, if we re going to do it, we scratched the second one.
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Cut to the third one.
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And I think out of all the criticism and everything he said leading up to his reasons why he wanted to do it again, I think that I caught it.
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And people s like, do you think that was your best?
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In that moment, that night, it was the best I could be that night.
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Beautiful.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, you know, we ll do shit.
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You say, I m not doing that joke before.
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You know you ve performed these jokes better, but can you capture it in that moment, in that night?
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And I think I caught a good vibe.
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Beautiful.
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Darnell, I love you.
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You re not gonna watch it.
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That was loud, Darnell.
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You were great with it.
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I love you.
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I have to take a leak, and we gotta end this.
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We gotta wrap this up.
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No problem.
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Thank you very much.
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Tell everybody the name of it.
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It s A New Day on Netflix.
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SPEAKER_00
There it is.
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It s A New Day.
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That s another sharp suit.
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I got two suits for two different situations.
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The yellow in the pocket.
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I like it.
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What s the button say?
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DR. It s my logo.
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Oh, nice.
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Yep.
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Proud of that.
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Finally got it done.
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Beautiful.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, brother.
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All right.
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Bye, everybody.