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Coming up next on Passion Strike.
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What you do daily is so much more important than the big things that you ll do annually.
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So it s really easy to forget that, but I ll repeat it again.
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Your days are your life in miniature.
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And as you craft each day, so you craft a life.
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So just by getting your days right, your days slip into weeks, your weeks slip into months, your months slip into years, your years slip into a lifetime.
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So consistency is the mother of mastery.
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What you do every day is really mission critical to living a world-class life and a soulful life and a healthy life and a happy life.
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Welcome to Passion Struck.
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Hi, I m your host, Jon R. Miles, and on the show, we decipher the secrets, tips, and guidance of the world s most inspiring people and turn their wisdom into practical advice for you and those around you.
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Our mission is to help you unlock the power of intentionality so that you can become the best version of yourself.
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If you re new to the show, I offer advice and answer listener questions on Fridays.
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We have long-form interviews the rest of the week with guests ranging from astronauts to authors, CEOs, creators, innovators, scientists, military leaders, visionaries, and athletes.
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Now, let s go out there and become Passion Struck.
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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Episode 457 of Passion Struck.
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Consistently ranked as the number one alternative health podcast.
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A heartfelt thank you to each and every one of you who return to the show every week, eager to listen, learn, and to discover new ways to live better, to be better, and most importantly, to make a meaningful impact in the world.
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If you re new to the show, thank you so much for being here.
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Or, you simply want to introduce this to friends or family members, and we so appreciate it when you do that.
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Either go to Spotify or Passionstruck.com slash starter packs to get started.
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I am also so excited to announce that my new book, Passionstruck, won the gold medal at the Nonfiction Book Awards
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And it also received an honorable mention at the Eric Hoffer Book Awards.
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And you can purchase the book at PassionStruck.com, Amazon, or wherever you purchase books.
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In case you missed it last week, I had three fantastic interviews.
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The first was with my friend, Oz Garcia, the renowned nutritionist who shares his expert insights on longevity, wellness, and the art of thriving at any age.
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The second was with Humera Kabir, a celebrated women s well-being and leadership coach with a rich background in positive psychology and coaching psychology.
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who joined me to explore the transformative journey from perfectionism to embracing the full spectrum of our inner and outer lives.
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And then lastly, I interviewed Jesse Bradley, author of The Power of the Second Thought and founder of Hope Habits, who shares the power of hope in our lives.
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And if you liked any of those previous episodes or today s, we would so appreciate you giving it a five-star rating and review.
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They go such a long way in strengthening the Passion Star community, where we can help more people to create an intentional life.
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And I know we and our guests love to hear your feedback.
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Today, I have the privilege of welcoming back Robin Sharma, a globally respected humanitarian and a personal growth expert who has spent over a quarter of a century guiding people toward unlocking their true potential.
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His number one international bestsellers such as The 5am Club, The Everyday Hero Manifesto, and The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari have sold over 25 million copies in more than 92 languages and dialects.
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making him one of the most widely read authors alive.
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Robin is no stranger to many of you.
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He s been the guiding light for countless individuals, including billionaires, professional sports superstars, and even heads of state, helping them achieve greatness and live with purpose.
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But today, he s here to talk about something much deeper than wealth in terms of dollars and cents.
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His latest book, The Wealth Money Can t Buy, The Eight Hidden Habits to Live Your Richest Life, is a transformative guide that redefines success beyond the conventional trappings of money and luxury.
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In a world where many financially prosperous people find themselves feeling empty and unfulfilled, Robin s book offers a new philosophy and methodology for leading a truly rich life.
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It s a life filled with personal power, authenticity, and deep connections, the kind of life that brings genuine happiness and peace of mind.
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Robin s 8 Forms of Wealth learning model has delivered transformational results for his clients, and he s ready to share this knowledge with you today.
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In our episode, you ll discover valuable insights and strategies such as how to become a perfect moment creator, the wisdom of going ghost for a year, and the top rules of authentically wealthy people and why your choice of mate is 90% of your joy.
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So get ready to dive into an engaging conversation about what it means to live your richest life filled with moments that truly matter.
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Let s welcome back Robin Sharma to the Passion Struck podcast.
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Thank you for choosing Passion Struck and choosing me to be your host and guide on your journey to creating an intentional life.
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Now, let that journey begin.
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I am absolutely thrilled and honored to have Robin Sharma back on Passion Struck.
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It s so great to see you again, Robin.
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It s great to see you, John.
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Thank you.
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So after the last time you and I talked, you told me after writing The Everyday Hero Manifesto, which if the audience is unfamiliar with this book, I ll just put a copy of it right here.
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You told me it was likely going to be your last book.
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And we then corresponded over the months that came after that.
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and you told me out of the blue one day you decided to write another book.
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What changed?
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just the way I felt in my appetite to write again and to create the Everyday Hero Manifesto as it was written in the pandemic.
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It was a very interesting time.
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I put so much into it and towards the end of it, I said, I don t plan to do this again or definitely not writing another book for a long time.
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And then after a little bit of living life and traveling and refueling, I got my creative spark back and I decided to write a book.
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around the eight forms of wealth and call it the wealth money can t buy.
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And so that s that s what s just been released into the world recently.
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So speaking of that and defining true wealth, this new book really redefines wealth beyond financial success.
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Can you explain for the audience what the wealth money can t buy really means and why it s so critical for our times?
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Well, I think in many ways there s been a cultural hypnosis, John, where
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Society has told us to measure our success and wealth by the amount of money we have in the bank and the size of our stock portfolio.
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And that s leaving a lot of people feeling very empty.
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And people who have achieved financial success, some of them are cash rich and life poor.
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And so what I ve done with the Wealth Money Can t Buy is introduced the eight forms of wealth.
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And money is actually the fifth form of wealth, financial
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Resources put food on the family table they allow us to do great things for our family.
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They allow us to help people in need I m certainly not saying money is not important and I m not saying that financial freedom is not a wise pursuit.
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What I m saying is, there are seven other forms of wealth worth pursuing and.
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and enriching your life with, whether it s personal growth or the second form of wealth, wellness and health, or the third form of wealth, which is a rich family life, or the eighth form of wealth, which is service.
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So there s a lot of, I guess what I m trying to suggest is I ve mentored a lot of the world s most financially successful people over the past 15 years, billionaires, CEOs, sports superstars, entertainment royalty.
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And I can tell you from personal experience, a lot of these people are cash rich, but they re life poor.
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And I don t want that to happen to anyone.
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I ve been fortunate enough to work very closely with two different billionaires, Michael Dell and also Mark Benioff who runs Salesforce.
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And I liked the fact that both of them actually, although they had the money, were living rich lives on top of it.
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And I think it s because both of them put so much focus on their family unit and how much time they were enjoying with their family.
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But you re right.
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A lot of people that I ve met.
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who have a lot of money don t have a lot of happiness in their lives.
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And I have to tell you, Robin, my own backstory is I was chasing all these things for so many years.
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And I had gotten to all the points that I had put on my trajectory of hitting the C-level in a Fortune 50, becoming a CEO.
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And I remember sitting in that chair when I was the CEO and I felt the loneliest that I have ever felt.
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It was, as you describe,
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I had this great life externally, but internally, everything was just falling apart.
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And I think so many people are facing that same situation today.
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It makes me think of what Jim Carrey said.
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He said, I wish everyone could be rich and famous to realize it doesn t make a difference.
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And so I think that s really important for people to remember.
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There s a chapter in the book called The Multi-Billionaire in the Very Empty Mansion.
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I was invited to do an engagement for a very successful and very famous financial tycoon.
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So I decided to do the engagement.
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I flew to his home country.
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I went to his home city.
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I went to an area filled
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with embassies and leafy gardens.
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And I showed up at this house and it was definitely the most beautiful, biggest house I ve ever seen.
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There was an aide who met me at the front door and I was led past his art collection.
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I was led past his car collection in his home with a glass window separating and down a set of stairs.
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And I was told that the tycoon I was meant to mentor was at the end of the hallway in his office.
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And so I could smell smoke.
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Metallica s For Whom the Bell Tolls was playing.
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And finally, I walked down this hall and there he was.
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And we spent two hours together and told me how we built his company and told me about his collections and all the things he d done in the world.
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And then I said, well, who do you get to share it with?
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And John, there was a long pause.
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And he said, I m alone.
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And I think that s a cautionary tale.
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You don t want to be super wealthy and all alone.
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I can so relate to that Robin, and in the beginning of the book, you share Henry David Thoreau s quote money is not required to buy any necessity of the soul.
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However, the quote I wanted to talk to you about.
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is the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation, which Henry David Thoreau also wrote.
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And I believe more people today than ever are living in this state of quiet desperation.
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What do you think is leading so many to feel this pervasive sense of despair and how do you break free from its grasp?
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It s a brilliant question.
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I would say so many people are living lives of quiet desperation because they re chasing a mountaintop that won t lead to lasting fulfillment.
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No matter how much money you make or no matter how many houses you get or watches you buy or suits you wear, none of those things will ever fill any emptiness on the inside.
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And so I m not saying the pursuit of material things is wrong.
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I m just saying there are seven other forms of wealth.
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I think also we live in the culture of comparison.
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We re so plugged into social media and what other people are doing.
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And we re measuring our lives based on how we compare to what other people have versus doing what my mentor at 21 encouraged me to do, which is run your own race.
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So I think we re just, in many ways, as simple as it sounds.
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A lot of us are chasing the wrong things, hoping it ll fill us with joy, peace, and freedom.
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And I can so relate to that because when I hit that apex of what I thought was success and what turned out to be a despair, I was the most emotionally numb I ve ever felt in my life.
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And it s a state of being, I wouldn t wish on my worst enemy because you wake up and it s as if nothing matters.
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You feel no significance.
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And your life just becomes this microscopic version of what it could be.
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Well, Robert, I want to go back a little bit to your personal journey, because over the past few years, you ve made some pretty drastic life changes, including moving from where you had lived for 55 years now to where you live in Europe.
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In your vivid description in the book of life in the Italian countryside, you talk about the magic of simple moments and the deeper wealth they represent.
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Can you expand a little bit on why you decided you needed a new adventure in life and how these tiny simple moments have so influenced your way of thinking?
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I believe, first of all, in terms of a primary principle, that the discomfort of growth is always less dangerous than the illusion of safety.
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And what I mean by that is spending a long time, 55 years in, well, 30 years in one city and 55 years in one country, it s a long time.
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And I think growth, that s why growth is actually the first form of wealth I talk about in the book.
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If you are growing, if you are stretching, if you are getting to know more of your gifts and your talents, if you are tackling your fears, you ve got a currency that money can t buy.
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And so what I did a number of years ago, as you re suggesting, was I left and moved to Italy with three suitcases.
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My partner, Ellen, and I just started a completely new life.
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But I needed that to keep the sparkle in my eye and to protect that sense of adventure.
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And you talk about these simple moments, well, that is a form of wealth.
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In the book, there s a story about a man named Eugene O Kelly.
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Eugene O Kelly was the CEO of KPMG, the accounting behemoth.
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And he went to his doctor s office one day to get the results of a routine medical.
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And the doctor came back to him with an expression you never want to see on the face of your doctor.
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And essentially, he was given 90 days left to live.
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He was told he had inoperable brain cancer.
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And so what Eugene O Kelley decided to do was he realized, confronted with his mortality, that in all his years as a CEO, he d never taken his wife to lunch.
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He missed many of his daughter s Christmas concerts and never gone on long walks through Central Park with his great friends.
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So he decided to reverse engineer the last 90 days of his life to create what he called perfect moments.
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And so he started doing the things he had never had the time to do when he was hustling and grinding.
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And I just think,
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All too often, we forget that some of the greatest of all joys, the greatest of all pleasures are the simple moments you can find in a day, whether it s a conversation with a stranger, whether it s mentoring a teammate, whether it s having a family meal, those kinds of experiences are worth more than all the money in the world.
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Now, Robin, I don t think I ve ever mentioned this to you before, but the past four years, my sister has been battling pancreatic cancer and seeing her go through this and hearing that story you just talked about with this gentleman from KPMG.
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I have seen the exact thing play out in her life.
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It s as if as she is prioritizing what s meaningful in life.
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All these distractions that we find ourselves in
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I have seen her get rid of and where she spends the vast majority of her time is with the people who light her up and bring the most meaning to her, meaning her immediate family, her closest friends.
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Because when you re going through something like this, you unfortunately really do find out who your closest friends and the most important people in your life are.
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But it s taught me so many valuable lessons I m trying now to apply to my own life because
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The fact of the matter is that 90 day story could present itself in any of our lives.
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I mean, tomorrow is never guaranteed to any of us.
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I m sorry to hear about your sister.
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Confronting ourselves with their mortality is very powerful.
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One of the things I ve been doing every morning in my journaling is asking myself five questions.
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Hopefully this will be helpful to your many viewers and listeners from around the world.
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Five journal prompts as part of my morning routine.
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Number one is, what am I grateful for?
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Because we know gratitude is the antidote to fear.
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Number two, where am I winning?
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So we focus on the micro wins because small daily seemingly insignificant improvements when done consistently over time lead to stunning results.
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Third question I ask myself, what will I let go of today?
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So we don t be what I call in the wealth money camp by a resentment collector.
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We start forgiving the people we need to forgive and letting go of the macro and micro trauma that is limiting our creativity, productivity, prosperity, and energy.
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Fourth question I ask myself most mornings in my journaling is, what does my ideal day ahead look like?
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Intentions are creative.
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You don t want to live your day in a reactive way and chase the day.
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So by asking yourself, what does my ideal day ahead look like?
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You give yourself a blueprint to live your ideal day.
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And your days are your life in miniatures as you live each day.
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So you ll craft your life.
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Fifth question.
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And this was my point.
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What needs to be said at the end?
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If every morning we can write a line or two about what we want said to us on the last day of our lives, then we re going to live to the point.
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And I think there s great value in connecting with our mortality, because exactly as you say, loss, accident, pestilence, wars, emergencies, they re just a part of life.
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And as human beings, as a species, we ve become great postponers.
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We put off launching the business, running the marathon, finding true love.
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getting to know our primal genius until some imaginary time in the future when things are less busy and life is a little easier.
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And yet, we don t know what tomorrow, as simple and obvious as it sounds, we don t know what tomorrow will bring.
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And all we really have is this moment.
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So I think it s very wise to embrace the things that are most important right now.
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And last thing I would say on your point is, family is the third form of wealth in the book.
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And the more years I get under my belt.
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the more I realize having a great family life, a rich home life, no drama, wonderful friendships is worth more than all the gold in the world.
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Well, you re absolutely true about that.
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I spent this past weekend around a very close friend of mine who is in a relationship that I feel is toxic and
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You just see how much a person s personality changes because they re on pins and needles when they re in that type of environment.
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So absolutely, that harmony is so important.
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I did want to touch on two things that you brought up out of those five questions, because I think they re really profound questions.
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You mentioned how it s these seemingly small things that we do over time that create our tsunami of greatness or our valley of despair, as I like to say, and
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I have now been studying behavior science for over seven years, and I ve had about 50 behavior scientists on this program, and every one of them talks about the importance of micro-choices, that it s not the big things in our life that define our lives.
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It s the micro-choices we make in the micro-moments of our life.
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So I think that coincides exactly with that one.
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And then you also talked about intentionality and the focus of it, which is the focus of this podcast.
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And in my own book, I wrote about how so many people today are living unintentionally.
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They live their life as if they re a pinball.
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then they just bounce off of all the distractions instead of being intentionally about how they re trying to live out their days.
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And to me, that s the make it or break it on whether you re taking actions to make yourself better or whether you re sitting in this constant revolving cycle of being in the same place stuck.
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Do you think that s an accurate way to look at it?
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I agree with you.
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We re singing from the same songbook on that.
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What you do daily is so much more important than the big things that you ll do annually.
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So it s really easy to forget that.
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But I ll repeat it again.
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Your days are your life in miniature.
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And as you craft each day, so you craft a life.
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So just by getting your days right, your days slip into weeks, your weeks slip into months, your months slip into years, your years slip into a lifetime.
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So consistency is the mother of mastery.
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What you do every day is really mission critical to living a world-class life and a soulful life and a healthy life and a happy life.
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Secondly, you re absolutely right.
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There are many people, and I say this respectfully, I m not judging, I m just reporting, but many people, they want the rewards of an amazing life, but they re not willing to do what an amazing life requires.
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I think we live in an age, an era of a lot of entitlement and people want these magical gifts without putting in the sweat equity and the focus and creating the habits that will create a beautiful life.
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And you re right, one of the things that create an amazing life is understanding that vague plans lead to vague goals.
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And so precision and clear intentions of what you want to do each day, what your Mount Everest in your business look like, what I call your four beautiful projects, what your ideal home life looks like.
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And again, I ll go back to journaling.
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Many mornings, I will reverse engineer my ideal life.
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Many mornings, I will rewrite
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my big five and what my personal Mount Everest will look like.
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I really just try to write and create what I call my game charts.
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Most mornings at 5am, while the world is asleep, just to create that intentionality and by writing it out I deepen commitment by writing it out and even visualizing it.
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I just create that clarity that allows us to go out into the world and execute on our vision.
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I mentioned morning routine.
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One thing I ve been doing recently as I get up and I do MVP, as MVP means most valuable player in sports circles.
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In my methodology, MVP is one of the most important tools for personal transformation and elite performance.
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MVP to me stands for meditation, visualization, and prayer.
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And so for the past eight months or so I ve been getting up about four o clock on the farm and for about 45 minutes meditating.
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then visualizing what I want to happen in the day, what I want to happen in my life, and then praying for my family, praying for my team, praying for my amazing readers from across the world, praying for the clients who put food on my table, praying for people who are in need or struggling.
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And I find that 45 minutes of MVP incredibly
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important because it does give me a lot of intention and it keeps me monomaniacally centered on the things that are most important in this age of dramatic distraction.
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But I also want to say doing MVP four or five, six times a week really has made me stronger and has really helped in my personal growth.
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So I really offer that to all your followers from around the world.
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Yeah, I love that.
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The MVP, it s a good way to vocalize that practice, which is so important.
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I m not sure I ve gotten really good at waking up at 5 a.m.
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I guess it s a little twist.
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Maybe I have to go to bed a little bit earlier if I want to get up at 4 a.m.
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I now, through practice, I mean, it sounds obvious, but the things we practice, we get better at.
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Every single human being alive today has a gift, and it s the gift of neuroplasticity, which is the brain s facility and ability to adapt and grow according to new conditions.
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We all have this gift.
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And so, over the past eight months or so I ve been getting up at four o clock I would say if you get up at five, which you do you can get up before pretty easily.
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And you re right, the key is to go to sleep earlier so now I m in bed by 930 or 10, and I love it.
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And so,
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I get up at four and I think you ll love it because four to 445 roughly is MVP five to six is when I work out and I hydrate I do cardio I do mobility I do some weights and then six to seven is the part of my morning routine where
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I will journal, I mentioned some of the journal prompts.
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I ll have two cups of espresso and then I will do a 15 minute nature walk with my little dog.
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And by eight o clock I m locked and loaded and ready to go.
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So I would really encourage you.
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A lot of people have read the 5am club, which I wrote a number of years ago, but I would really encourage you to try 4am because it gives you a three hour morning routine.
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and imagine three hours every morning or even five days a week, what that will make you into as a human being and creative and producer and entrepreneur.
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Well, it s just been such a profound change already in my life since I ve started religiously getting up at 5 a.m.
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and people often ask, why do you do it?
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And there is just something magical about that time in the morning because they re not distractions.
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I might see one person on a walk.
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You don t see cars.
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You get to see the complete night sky still.
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if it s not cloudy.
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And I just find it such a great way when I m walking my dog to just do that MVP, because I use that fluid motion as my way to get into my visualizations.
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And I try to use my senses as a way to focus myself on what I m feeling that day through my senses.
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And then it helps me set the intentions for the day.
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So Robin, your newest book, which I ll put here,
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is very similar in style from what you did in your last book.
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And I thought both of them were really great because you boiled these eight habits down into a series of then micro topics.
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What led you in both of these books to take that approach?
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Well, creatively doing these, as you re suggesting I ve got the eight forms of wealth and each form of wealth, whether it s craft, whether it s money, whether it s family, whether it s wellness, whether it s adventure, whether it s service.
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I ve got about 20 to 25 little chapters under each form of wealth and why did I do it creatively, it felt right.
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We also live in this age of dramatic distraction where a lot of people, unfortunately are suffering from broken focus syndrome.
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And so writing these one or two page chapters allowed early readers to really, one of the things they said is that the Wealth Money Can t Buy is unputdownable.
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They re getting what they felt was very strong information to help them really upgrade their lives, but in quick bites.
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So I just thought it was a great format for this
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new book to serve my readers and make sure that they stayed with the book.
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A lot of people read a few chapters from the book, and then they don t continue.
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And that brings up, I think, a key point, which is, if you look at the most creative people, the most successful people, these people all have the ability to sit alone in a room focused on a project for a long period of time.
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And I think it s a GCA, a gargantuan competitive advantage to be able to
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focus on what s most important in this age where so many people are chasing shiny toys, only to realize at the end of the quarter at the end of the year, or maybe even the end of a lifetime, that they spent their finest hours chasing things that were really trivial pursuits.
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Well, Robin, I m going to ask you about a couple of these sub components.
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And one of the things I often say,
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myself is that the greatest person you will ever meet in your life is the person who you look at in the mirror every single day.
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But the greatest critic that person will ever encounter is also that person who stares back at it in the mirror.
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And in your habit one around growth, you bring up a famous quote by Gandhi, which reminded me of this whole topic.
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The only devils in the world are those running around inside ourselves.
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And this is where the battle should be fought.
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So if someone is fighting these devils, how do you recommend they start confronting and overcoming them to facilitate the profound personal change that can come about when they do?
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Well, I would say the very human condition, John, is we all have these insecurities, these fears, these wounds inside of us.
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One of the chapters at the beginning of the book is Penham.
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These are the five forces that shape us, our parents, our environment, our nation, our associations, and the media we consume every day.
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So we all have these limitations, no matter who we are.
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It s just the human condition to have these devils, to use Mahatma Gandhi s term.
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So how do we confront them?
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Well, the starting point is awareness.
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You don t want to be asleep at the wheel to what s going on inside you.
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Victims blame.
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Victims say, oh, I don t have enough prosperity.
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I don t have enough creativity.
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I don t have the love I want.
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I have toxic people in my life.
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I m not able to seize opportunities because of the world.
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That s what a victim does.
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They re about CBE, complaint, blame, and excuse.
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They give away their power to change the world and live their finest lives to external excuses and conditions.
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Leaders are fundamentally different.
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They re not about CBE, complaint, blame, and excuse.
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Leaders are about APR, absolute personal responsibility.
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And what I m suggesting is, how do you release these limitations?
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Well, you show leadership and you say, OK.
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I m going to build some self-awareness around what I m contributing to the things I don t like about my life.
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That s how you take back your power.
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You say, oh, I m not as energetic as I want, not because of work or not because of this excuse.
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I m not as energetic as I want because I don t get up at 5 a.m.
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or I don t work out or I don t eat clean food or I don t install the habits of health and wellness.
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So the starting point of removing these devils or these limitations is self-awareness.
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And you can work on self-awareness by writing in a journal in the morning and asking yourself, where am I being limited?
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What are my toxic mental programs?
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What are my emotional wounds?
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And the more you re right, the more you re gonna get to know yourself.
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Solitude is very powerful, spending some time in reflection every day.
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Again, maybe early in the morning or before you go to sleep, just sitting there and doing something, committing the radical act of being in silence and simply reflecting on the things you might need to improve.
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Third thing that s very powerful is,
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Once a week meeting a mastermind alliance partner, and for an hour maybe early Friday morning just talking about personal growth and your limitations.
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Yeah, and I wanted to cover another one out of this section, Rob, and I was recently talking to Jim Quick and we were talking about reading and he says to me, John, the only thing that s different between someone who s illiterate and someone who s not is that they actually read books.
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And it s so funny because I find so few people today are reading.
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And you have this great segment here.
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You write that it s the human who reads the most books who wins.
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Can you explain that?
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Well, education is inoculation against disruption.
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Maybe I should mention that again because I think it s so important for all of us to remember in this age of entertainment and so many of us scrolling, watching videos that really don t enrich our lives.
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Education is inoculation against disruption.
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And I really do believe that the leader who learns the most wins.
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There s an acronym that I think is very powerful, which is BABLE, B-A-B-L-E, Book Accumulation Beyond Lifetime Expectancy.
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And I think, John, I m sure you buy more books than you ll ever read in your lifetime, and I hope you have a long lifetime.
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And I sure am someone as well who can t leave a bookstore without buying five or 10 books.
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And I think that s a wonderful affliction to buy more books than you ll ever read in your lifetime.
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Because when you buy a book, I think you re buying a promise.
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you re buying the promise of an idea being in the book that you buy that will allow you to see the world through a new set of eyes.
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When you buy a book, if it s the right book, you could read a sentence that so lights you up, the hand that puts down the book is a fundamentally different hand.
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And when I mentor the billionaires and
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celebrity CEOs and the moguls.
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These people all have one thing in common.
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They buy more books than they ll ever read.
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They invest in their personal growth and professional mastery.
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And they spend time most evenings reading.
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And they have libraries.
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What a concept to build a beautiful library that has psychology books and communication books and leadership books and history books.
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Bonus point,
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Mark Twain said history doesn t repeat itself but it often rhymes and Winston Churchill said, to paraphrase, the best way to predict the future is to understand history in the past.
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And so I really do believe, get a.
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GCA, a gargantuan competitive advantage when you fall in love with reading in this world where a lot of people don t read anymore.
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And last thing I d say on that is the marketplace rewards magic rendered.
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The marketplace, this is key for entrepreneurs.
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The marketplace rewards value that you put in magic that you put into the marketplace, and by enriching your knowledge base and your wisdom and your acumen and your mastery through reading and audio books and audio courses and online courses and going to live events.
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you develop a gargantuan competitive advantage where people are card carrying members of the cult of mediocrity.
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Most people don t really know that much about the work that they do.
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Most people are not on a pursuit to being BIW best in world at their craft.
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By the way, in the Wealth Money Can t Buy, the fourth form of wealth is craft.
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Seeing your job as your craft and pursuing mastery is a currency money can t buy.
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And so part of the way you get there is through out learning everyone around you.
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Given we only have a few minutes left, Robin, I m going to jump around to a couple other sections of the book.
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And thank you for sharing what you just did.
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One of the most profound things I ve been doing for the past seven years is intermittent fasting.
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And I think not only has it helped me regulate my weight and help with wellness,
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but I think it s helped me have better mental clarity.
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And you bring up a concept in the book called OMAD.
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I was hoping you might be able to discuss this.
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OMAD.
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So the second form of wealth in the book is wellness.
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In one wisdom tradition, they say health is the crown on the well person s head that only the ill person can see.
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In another wisdom tradition, they say when we are young, we would sacrifice all of our health for wealth.
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And when we get old and discover what life is really about, we would sacrifice all of our wealth for one day of health.
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And health
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is one of those things that we take for granted until we lose it.
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And I pray no one listening and watching loses their health.
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But if someone loses their health, nothing else matters.
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All their dreams dissolve, and they spend the rest of their life trying to get their health back.
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So there s 25 chapters in that second form of wealth designed to help people battle proof their energy, extend their longevity, and maximize their energy.
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And you re talking about the chapter on OMAD.
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which is an acronym for one meal a day.
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And so I m not giving medical advice, but what I ve recommended to my clients and it s worked really well is once a week, have one meal only and take the money that you would spend on the other meals and give them to someone in need.
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That way you benefit physiologically and the person who receives the food benefits as well.
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And why is intermittent fasting powerful?
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And again, I m not giving medical advice, but when you experience caloric restriction, you put your body into a state called autophagy.
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And autophagy is the body s natural response mechanism to the stress of not eating, where it actually creates a cellular
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cleansing process, which promotes great health and longevity.
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So I really believe that fasting, I fast a lot as do you, John, intermittent fasting, probably four days a week, I find it really gives me incredible energy.
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I find it s great to extend your lifespan, and you mentioned how good it makes you feel mentally.
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There s some research that says when you go into fasted state, your brain releases BDNF brain derived neurotrophic factor, which creates mitogenesis which is
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the creation of new brain cells, and also it repairs brain cells damaged by stress.
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Last thing I would say on that, in one of my favorite books, Siddhartha, Herman Hesse writes, the person who can wait and the person who can fast is unbeatable.
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And so fasting is not only good for your brain and your focus and your creativity and your energy and your longevity,
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Fasting is fantastic for your self-discipline.
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If you can t control what you eat, how are you going to have the self-discipline to build your Project X, to create your Taj Mahal, and the handcrafted life you love at the end?
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Thank you for sharing that.
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And for the listener, I have had a whole bunch of
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dot medical professionals and person who specialize in this on the show.
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Everyone recently from Mark Hyman to Terry Walls to Chris Kenobi, Morley Robbins, Eric Edmeades.
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So there s a whole bunch of episodes that you can go back and listen to if you want to learn more about that point.
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And then, Robin, I wanted to bring this one up because I m talking about family a number of times.
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Family is your third habit that you talk about.
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How do you savor the small surprises of family life?
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Because I think it s those small surprises that really ignite, for me at least, the love that I feel, not only from my family, but it brings out my own self-love as well.
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Well, it s a profound point you make.
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Your relationship with your family reflects your relationship with yourself.
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That primary relationship that you have with you
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sets up how you treat your family, how you treat your team, how you treat your friends, how you relate to your money, how you see your work.
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So the more self-love and the more self-respect you can build through MVP, through journaling, through mantras and affirmations, through nature walks alone, where you pay attention and you re thoughtful about how you re living, through reading, through mentors, all the things I talk about in the book, you start to build greater self-respect.
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A human being who respects themselves naturally respects their family.
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A person who has built heroic levels of self-respect respects the work they do, no matter if they re sweeping floors or running a Fortune 100 company.
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A person who respects themselves has respect for human life.
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So your relationship with yourself sets up your relationship
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with everything.
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And that s why personal growth is so important and it s the first form of wealth I talked about in the book, but you re talking about the third form of wealth and the wealth money can t buy which is family and how do you build to answer your question and appreciation.
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For the value of family life, I think you just pay even more attention to the things that really bring joy to a human life.
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And the more you experience a greater family life, you ll realize it s a form of riches that money can t buy.
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Your relationship with your parents, if they re still alive, your relationship with your significant other, or your friends, or your brothers and sisters, your relationship with your neighbors.
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I mean, that laughter, even
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having three great friends, the kind of friends who you can be yourself with, the kind of friends who you see them after a few years, and you continue with the next line after the last line you finished off on, the kind of friends who you could call at three in the morning, you re in a foreign country in some trouble.
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And John, they say, I m going to be on the first plane to come get you.
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How much is that worth?
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Worth more than a huge stock portfolio.
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So how do you appreciate family life?
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You just realize it is a form of wealth.
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And maybe you read, and maybe you think, and maybe you just make it an even greater value.
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I want to just go back to the fact of how many rich people are in the world.
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I ve mentored so many billionaires, but they re alone, or their 20-year-old kids won t talk to them because they neglected the relationships while they were scaling their financial fortunes, or they don t have any friends, or they re caught up in lawsuits, or their lives are so complicated with all their business affairs that they don t have time for love.
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I mean, what is a life without love worth?
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Can t put a price tag on that.
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What s the point of having watches and gold and things?
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You know, have someone to laugh with and someone to travel with.
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I mean, one of my favorite things to do when we re at the old farmhouse, Elle and I, we talk for like two hours with my little dog, our little Chihuahua Yorkie, and we ll just sit on the terrace and watch the sun come down, or we ll just talk for an hour or two and talk about our days and have a laugh.
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I mean, that s one of my favorite things to do in life.
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As I get older, being with my friends, how much is that worth?
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I know you know what I m talking about.
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Well, I absolutely do, Robin.
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All you have to do is look at the lives of centurions, the people in the blue zones, the work that Bob Walninger has really talked about coming out of the Harvard Study of Adult Aging.
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And even I recently read Bronnie Ware s book on the five regrets of the dying, and two of them tie to relationships.
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And one of those is the regret people have of allowing their
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sentiments to block someone from their life that was important to them.
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And they go through life regretting that they didn t figure it out and spend more time with them.
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And the other one is not cultivating enough relationships in their lives.
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So such an important point, which is why I wanted to hunker down on it.
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So the book is so profound.
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We don t have a chance to even go through a tiny bit of it.
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The fourth form that Robin talks about is craft.
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which is the work as a platform for purpose habits.
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And in this chapter, there are great things like stop copying your heroes, be patient like a pro.
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apply the no second, basically anti-procrastination rule, the Michelin rule.
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His fifth area or fifth form is money.
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And I love the section on why is the Howard Hughes money trap and why should we avoid it?
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The sixth form is community.
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You go into things like live your hero s life, dig your well before you re thirsty, which is a great one.
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But I wanted to hit on the seventh form of wealth, which is adventure, which is where we started this whole discussion from.
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And this whole concept of going ghost.
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And I wanted you to talk about this because I myself am feeling this need for adventure that you re talking about.
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And I m thinking about how do I go ghost for a year myself, but I m trying to think of how do I do it with everything else that s going on in my life.
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So I d love to hear your advice on this.
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Sure, everyone s loves seems to be talking about that chapter of the book going go so the concept is basically take one year, leave your phone at home, and that s a challenger or metaphor but the idea is to leave your normal life and go to the place that fills you with joy and lights you up.
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could be Vietnam, it could be Medellin, could be Tokyo, could be London, and take a year and get away from the world.
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Get into the wilderness, so to speak, and spend that year learning MVP.
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Spend that year reading the classics.
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Spend that year strolling art galleries.
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Spend that year learning to fast and getting fit.
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and detecting your deepest values and architecting the rest of your life.
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And if you can t get go ghost for a year, then go ghost for six months.
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And if you can t go ghost for six months, go ghost for a quarter.
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Can t do it for a quarter, do it for a month.
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And if you can t do it for a month, do it for a week.
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But genius loves solitude.
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We are too much in the world.
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So we are so
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filled with noise, we can t hear the signal.
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And so what I would suggest for you, John, I believe you absolutely can go ghost for a year.
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I believe it s about what I found building many teams is the more valuable you are to your team, the more your team comes to you with problems and asks questions.
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But if you say to your team, I m going ghost for one year,
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I will only be available for email two days a week and phone calls on those two days.
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The rest of the five days each week for the next year, I will be dark because let s say you re with your family in Mongolia or Dubai or Buenos Aires, wherever you want to go.
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You re going to teach your team to run the businesses without you.
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But I think also it s incredibly important for someone who s achieved what you ve achieved to take the time to honor your adventure and your wanderlust, and to get the sparkle protect the sparkle in your eye.
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by having a huge adventure.
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In the book, I also talk about the importance of every three months learning a new skill or doing something that is difficult and frightens you.
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And that I learned from my sailing instructor.
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Every two years, he would learn a major skill.
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And every three months, he would learn a micro skill.
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And that s a great way to inject adventure back into your life.
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I m a huge sailor, so I love that analogy because everyone thinks sailing is so simple and oh my gosh, it is not.
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When you re around a person who is a master sailor, it is just so awe-inspiring the amount of knowledge that they have that s been attained over the course of decades of being on the water.
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So I think that s a great analogy.
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Robin, it is always such an incredible honor for me to have you on this podcast and so meaningful.
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I know you ve been doing a book tour.
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You re doing a lot of speaking engagements.
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If anyone has not seen you speak, it is something that to me is one of the biggest gifts that you give.
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And I would encourage any of the listeners to go see you speak.
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Where will you be going over the next year or so?
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Well, I know you were just in the United States.
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Yes, I just did a book tour across the U.S.
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and I m here in London today.
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I ve been traveling for the past six plus weeks and I still have another two weeks ahead of me.
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Back in Orlando this week for Edward Jones and then I m back in London for podcast and Athens
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Madrid, and it just continues.
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So I spent a year of my life writing The Wealth Money Can t Buy, and probably 20 different versions of the manuscript, 10,000 changes per manuscript.
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And what I m suggesting is it was a very challenging book to write because I wanted to put my best in it, but I also want to make it simple and easy to read and fun.
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And so it took a lot of work but what I ve realized is I put so much of myself in it that I now have almost like a drive that I haven t felt in the past number of years to just get out there and evangelize the message as much as possible.
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So maybe the takeaway for all of us is, the more you put into your work.
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the more you re going to run through walls to get the work out in the world because you ve put so much of yourself in it that you believe in it.
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But thank you so much for having me back on your show, John.
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I really appreciate your kind words and all the great work you do for so many people around the world.
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Well, thank you, Robin.
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It means the world to me.
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It can be life altering for you.
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Thank you so much.
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Such a pleasure.
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Thank you, John.
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What an incredible honor that was to have Robin Sharma back on the PassionStruck podcast.
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And I wanted to thank Robin and Crown Currency Press for the privilege of having them come back on the show.
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I think there s nothing that matters more than getting clear on what your life purpose is and not just trying to get through day to day, but also living a life that feels like it s connected to a larger purpose.
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This goal of just trying to feel better isn t where it s at.
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