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Since high school, I ve been cycling between two phases.
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Phase number one, wow, this girl is productive.
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Wow, this girl does not stop.
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Wow, this girl is on fire.
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Wow, she doesn t sleep.
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And then cycle number two, wow, this girl cannot get out of bed.
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She can t get anything done.
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She has not gotten anything done in a week.
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What s wrong with this girl?
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Is she okay?
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Since high school, I ve been bouncing back and forth between those two phases nonstop.
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I rarely find myself in between.
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I m either one or the other.
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When I m in a productive phase, I just feel like I have endless energy.
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When I m in a productive phase, working just comes easily to me.
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I sit down, I start working on something, and I just immediately click into a flow state, and things are just seamless.
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When I m in an unproductive state, it s the complete opposite.
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I procrastinate beyond belief.
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I feel intimidated to start projects because I m not confident that I ll have the brainpower to complete them.
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I think it s because usually when I m in an unproductive state of mind, I m physically and mentally exhausted.
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Not because I didn t get a lot of sleep the night before, not because I m sick, but because I just am and there s no explanation.
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I tend to waste a lot of time on social media, online shopping, things like that.
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My addiction to entertainment becomes 10 times worse.
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I can t focus.
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I ll sit down and start working on something, and then I ll get distracted by my phone.
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I ll get distracted by an online shopping website.
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I ll get distracted.
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Or I ll be like, oh, I m hungry, and I ll go cook something.
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I m not hungry even.
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I can t focus.
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And my self-esteem suffers because I feel incapable of performing at the level that I want to perform at.
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And it just makes me feel bad about myself.
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And it kind of ruins every other piece of my life.
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My social life is very important to me.
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It hasn t always been, but it is right now.
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I ve gone through phases throughout the years where my social life is a priority, and then it s not, and then it is, and then it s not.
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But more recently, it has been.
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And it s really hard for me to go and be social when I m not being productive in my work life.
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I feel guilt and shame, and I don t feel like I deserve to go and be social.
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Whether or not that s a healthy mindset is a different conversation, but my self-esteem goes down, which then ruins everything else in my life.
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During these times when I m struggling to be productive, I always need to take a step back and analyze what s happening.
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Why is this happening?
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Why am I unable to be productive?
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And what I m always trying to figure out is, am I being lazy or am I burnt out?
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Because laziness requires a different treatment, if you will, than burnout.
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Laziness requires discipline and willpower to solve.
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You know, it s about being a little tougher on yourself.
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Whereas burnout requires a break.
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It requires submitting to the exhaustion, submitting to the inability to be productive, and allowing that to run its course a bit more.
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Laziness can only be fixed by counteracting it with effort, whereas burnout can only be fixed through taking a break.
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They both require complete opposite treatments, yet they re so hard to distinguish.
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They are very hard to distinguish.
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And obviously the best option is to go and talk to a doctor, talk to a therapist, get help that way.
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But sometimes we want to take matters into our own hands and figure it out for ourselves.
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That s always what I do.
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Today I want to talk about the difference between laziness and burnout because they are kind of hard to distinguish, but it s such a great thing to understand because it helps you get through that phase of not being productive so that you can get back on track.
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So first let s start out with the definitions for each.
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What is laziness and what is burnout?
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Laziness is not wanting to do an activity or exertion despite having the ability to act or exert oneself.
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Laziness is not always bad.
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Sometimes we must be lazy to recharge.
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But at times we must be honest with ourselves about whether we re being lazy in a responsible way or in an irresponsible way.
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I think an example of irresponsible laziness is laying in bed and watching TV all day when you really need to finish work.
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and you know you could do it and you know it d be fine like you wouldn t have a mental breakdown if you if you did it but you don t do it anyway because you re just so cozy and comfortable in bed and you re like eh I know that this this thing is due tomorrow or due in two days but like I just don t want to do it.
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I think responsible laziness is laying in bed all day on a Sunday when you have nothing better to do.
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That s responsible laziness.
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That s just being a human.
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Like, we can t do shit every single day.
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It feels so good to lay in bed and watch TV and recharge when it s responsible to do so.
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And we should all do that, right?
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It s irresponsible when there s going to be a really negative consequence for you being lazy and mentally, you know deep down that you actually could do it and it wouldn t
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harm your mental state, you know?
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It might be a little frustrating, it might be a little exhausting, but it wouldn t severely damage your mental state, right?
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Burnout is a state of complete mental, physical, and emotional exhaustion caused by a lack of adequate social support, taking on more than one can handle at work, school, or interpersonally with family and friends, and poor self-care.
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Burnout is much deeper.
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I ve experienced burnout many, many times, and it s so much deeper than being lazy.
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When I m feeling lazy, I m like, yeah, I could go do that, but I really don t want to.
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Like, what comes out of my mouth when I m lazy is, oh, I really don t want to do that.
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When I m burnt out, I m like, actually, I can t do that.
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Like, I literally cannot do this, or else I don t know what I m going to do.
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I can t do it.
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When I try to work through burnout, I have a mental breakdown every time.
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A freakout.
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Whereas when I push through and work through laziness, I m like, glad I did.
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And I always feel better at the end.
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Whereas when I m burnt out and I work, it destroys me.
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I m an emotional wreck.
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I m exhausted.
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And it doesn t get me back on track.
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It actually makes the problem worse.
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Now, a huge difference between laziness and burnout is that laziness can be irresponsible or responsible because it s more of a choice in a way.
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Burnout is not a choice.
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It s never irresponsible or responsible.
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It just happens to you, you know?
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And it s so deep in your brain and in your body that you can t just push through it like you can laziness.
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And both laziness and burnout come into our lives at inconvenient times.
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Why?
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Because there s never a convenient time to not be productive.
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I mean, sometimes are a bit more convenient, but even then, there s no good time to be lazy or to be burned out.
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But at least with laziness, it s something that you can push through.
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It s not easy.
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I know I m making it sound easy right now, but we all know it s not easy, but you actually feel better when you push through.
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So I decided to do some research, specifically listing out what laziness looks like and what burnout looks like, because I had never done that before.
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In the past, I ve just gone based on feeling, you know?
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Oh, I feel like I could push through this, so I must just be lazy.
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Or, oh, I don t think I can push through this, I think I m burnt out.
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But I ve never really dug into what they both look like.
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So let s explore that together.
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What does laziness look like?
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To start, you have no motivation to start the day, but you feel rested.
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Like, if you were to get out of bed, you wouldn t feel like you were carrying a backpack with bricks in it.
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Like, you d be able to get up and feel pretty good.
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but your bed is just so cozy and it s so warm.
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Ooh, it s so warm.
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And you re so cozy and your remote is right next to your bed and the TV s right there and you just want to turn it on.
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Like that s lazy.
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Right?
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It also looks like
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Like making a lot of excuses.
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Saying, I can t do that because I have to do this other thing later so that means I can t do that.
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Constantly making excuses.
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I definitely make a lot of excuses when I m in a lazy mood.
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Like for example,
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If I have like a doctor s appointment at 3 p.m.
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I ll be like, well, I can t really do anything before 3 p.m.
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today because I have to make sure that I don t miss my doctor s appointment.
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I can t be late to my doctor s appointment.
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So I m not doing anything before that doctor s appointment.
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When you re in a lazy mood, you may also
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Spend a lot of time entertaining yourself.
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Social media, YouTube, TV, mindless entertainment.
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When I m in a lazy phase, I cannot stop.
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There is no time in my life when I m more addicted to entertainment because it just allows me to forget about the shit that I m supposed to be doing.
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And it s so easily engaging and it just kills an hour, kills two hours, it kills three hours.
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And I don t have the willpower to turn it off when I m lazy.
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Whereas when I m in a productive phase, I m like, it s no problem.
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It s no problem, I m turning it off, putting my phone in the other room, not gonna look at it all day.
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When you re lazy, you may also settle for mediocrity.
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You re not pushing yourself to produce your peak quality of work, you know?
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You re half-assing everything, doing the bare minimum.
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Because you just wanna check things off the checklist.
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You re not trying to go above and beyond.
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And I don t think any of us feel great about ourselves when we work in that way.
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We re not proud of ourselves when we half-ass shit, you know?
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But sometimes that s all we want to do.
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We don t want to put the full effort in.
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We could, but we don t really want to.
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Laziness also comes with the victim mentality, feeling like your life is too overwhelming when in reality, that s not accurate.
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There have been times in my life where I m like, it s not my fault that I have so much stuff to do.
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And it s like, no, you don t.
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You have nothing to do.
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You have barely anything to do.
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You just don t want to do it.
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And being lazy makes you feel bad about yourself.
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And when you feel bad about yourself, your ego is being threatened.
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And it s so much easier to be like, I m the victim of my life when in reality your life is not bad.
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You know, like you don t have that much to do.
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You just are lazy.
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I totally do this sometimes.
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And I try to snap out of it fast because I don t like complaining when it s not warranted like that.
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I don t like complaining because my ego is bruised because I m lazy and I feel bad about myself.
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So I try to catch it in the act, but sometimes it slips out.
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When you re in a lazy phase, you may also find yourself afraid to start a project because you re scared you re going to fail.
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I know I mentioned that earlier because that happens to me a lot, but I feel like there s this sort of hamster wheel dilemma with laziness because lazy behavior lowers your self-esteem.
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You don t feel good about yourself.
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But then when your self-esteem is lower, you don t feel confident to start a project.
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So then, it s like, the laziness makes you insecure, and then being insecure makes you not wanna start working on what you need to work on, because you re scared you re gonna fail.
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But then that leads to more laziness, which then, do you see what I m saying?
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It s a hamster wheel.
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And it s very hard to get off sometimes.
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It s also very hard to stick to any habit that requires discipline when you re in a lazy phase.
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Work, exercise, challenging hobbies, et cetera, are all put on the back burner.
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Stuff that s easy, like hanging out with your friends, going to a party, that stuff s fine.
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But like anything that requires discipline, no.
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Not happening.
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Although I did mention the parties and hanging out with friends being easy.
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That s not necessarily easy for everyone.
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And some people are too lazy at times to go and be social too.
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Everyone s sort of different.
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Last but not least, many people experiencing laziness are kind of messy during their lazy phase.
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Their house is a mess.
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Their room is a mess.
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Their closet is a mess.
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You know, things start to pile up.
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Now, that s what laziness looks like.
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There s not one perfect picture, right?
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It definitely looks different for everyone.
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Now that we have a vague picture of that, let s dig into what burnout looks like.
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Genuine exhaustion, physical, mental exhaustion.
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Getting out of bed in the morning is challenging.
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It feels like you re carrying a backpack full of bricks.
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It s sometimes excruciating, based on my experience.
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But it s not just physical, it s also mental.
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I can t explain it, and if you haven t experienced it before, humor me here, but when I m in a stage of burnout, I literally feel like my brain cannot process anything else.
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I can t think, like I try to think about something and my brain is just, it feels fried.
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It s so tired, it s so fatigued that I can t process a thought.
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All I can really do is lay down and stare at the ceiling empty in my head.
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During a phase of burnout, you may find yourself unable to put full effort into everyday tasks, like you have no motivation.
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There s no motivation left.
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I would say the difference between laziness and burnout when it comes to motivation, at least based on my experience, is how it feels impossible when you re burnt out.
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It feels like you truly can t do what you have to do.
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Burnout also causes you to feel dissatisfied with the level of work that you re getting done.
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It brings a sense of failure and self-doubt.
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It s almost like no matter how much you do, no matter how much you get done, you never feel satisfied.
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You never feel like, oh yeah, I m done.
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I m accomplished.
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I m proud of what I did.
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For whatever reason, you never feel satisfied.
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And this is sort of a hamster wheel as well.
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You re burnt out, but you push through and you get work done.
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Then you don t feel satisfied about it, which then makes you feel like you re doing all this work for nothing, which then makes the burnout worse.
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And then you re like, oh, I have to keep working.
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So then you keep working, but then you still feel dissatisfied.
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You see what I mean?
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It s another hamster wheel.
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And the burnout just constantly gets worse.
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People with burnout also experience emotional outbursts.
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I really, really, yes, I have experienced that.
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I know I m burnt out for sure when I start working because I m trying to pursue the burnout and then I have a meltdown, crying, panic attack.
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I have an extreme outburst.
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And it always happens in private.
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You know, it s not like anything anyone ever sees, but it totally happens to me.
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And that s when I know I m burnt out because when I m lazy, when I start working, I am like, wait a minute.
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I m like feeling more motivated now.
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Burnout can also cause depression and anxiety due to feeling detached or alone in the world, feeling drowned by one s own life.
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I ve noticed this as well when I m burnt out.
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I feel trapped in my own life.
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I m like,
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There s so much that I have to do.
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I ve already done a lot.
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I feel trapped.
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I feel suffocated by my life.
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I feel like I have no space to just breathe and be silent and recharge.
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And that has caused me depressive episodes and anxious episodes for sure.
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A lot of people also isolate themselves when they re burnt out.
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It s interesting because I have had phases of burnout where I ve isolated myself big time, but I ve also had phases where it s really helped me to go out and be social because I had fun.
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There have been times when going out and being social has helped ease my burnout because I feel loved and supported and I m having fun.
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So I think it depends.
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Burnout is usually caused by an overwhelming life.
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A particular person might have a lot of time pressures, due dates for things, deadlines for things.
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They might have a massive workload.
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They might be experiencing
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experiencing emotional turmoil, there s something or some things in this person s life that overwhelms them to a point where they re empty.
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They don t have any gas left in the tank.
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We all can handle a certain level of challenge, difficulty, but we all run out of gas at a certain point and we burn out.
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We re not machines.
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We re not robots.
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As much as I wish I was a robot, I m not.
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So keep that in mind.
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And last but not least, burnout cannot be cured through vacation or time off.
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This is the worst part.
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There have been periods in my life where I ve been experiencing burnout and I ve gone on a vacation so hopeful that it would make it all go away.
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And then by the end of the trip, I d be like, fuck, it s exactly the same.
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Like nothing has changed.
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I m still burnt out.
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And what the hell am I going to do?
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There are definitely a lot of similarities between laziness and burnout, but I think there are enough differences that it s not impossible to distinguish.
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It s hard to distinguish, but it s not impossible.
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I think the hardest part about figuring out which you re experiencing is you can convince yourself that you re burnt out just because you want to be more lazy.
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Like, you can use the excuse that you re burnt out when you re really just lazy.
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And I ve done it.
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That s why I m saying that.
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I ve done that.
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I ve been like, oh, I m burnt out.
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It s like, no, Emma, you re not.
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And you know that.
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You know what burnout feels like, my love.
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You re not burnt out.
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You re being lazy.
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You know what I m saying?
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It takes brutal, brutal, brutal honesty with oneself to figure out what you re experiencing.
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And you really have to analyze yourself almost in third person and figure out what s really going on.
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But it s way easier said than done.
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It s so easy to just be like, I m burnt out when you re really just being lazy.
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It s so easy because the irony of it all is like, burnout looks almost identical to laziness.
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There s definitely some differences, but it looks very similar.
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And yet to solve both are completely opposite.
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If you convince yourself that you re burnt out when you re really just lazy,
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then you just get to keep being lazy because in order to heal burnout, you have to rest.
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I mean, it s not just resting.
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There s more to it, but resting is a part of it.
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It s not fun to admit to yourself that you re being lazy.
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It s a huge blow to the ego.
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And I mentioned earlier, it s not always bad to be lazy.
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Sometimes it s a responsible thing to do.
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But what we ve been discussing today is irresponsible laziness.
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It s a different type of laziness.
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But the plot thickens because sometimes you ll be convinced that you re not in a productive phase.
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You ll think you re lazy or you ll think you re burnt out because you feel like you re not getting enough done.
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But sometimes you have neither laziness nor burnout.
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You re just experiencing hustle culture.
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Well, what s hustle culture, you may ask?
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According to Talkspace.com, hustle culture is when a workplace environment places an intense focus on productivity, ambition, and success with little regard for rest, self-care, or any sense of work-life balance.
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If you re in an environment that has hustle culture or you self-inflict hustle culture into your own life because of the internet or societal pressures or whatever,
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You may feel like you re lazy when in reality you re normal and you re doing great.
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Hustle culture inspires us to believe that having a work-life balance is being lazy.
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And I experience this all the time.
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I experience laziness, burnout, and hustle culture all at various times.
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And it s so overwhelming to try to figure out what my issue is because the way to solve each one is so different.
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I may get all my work done for the day and then decide, oh, I m going to go out tonight with my friends.
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We re going to go get a little drink.
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And I ll feel like a lazy piece of shit.
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Why?
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Because I know deep down that I could have kept working into the night, you know?
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I m self-employed.
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I am my own boss and I make my own schedule and I can work whenever I want, you know, at any hour I want.
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And sometimes I feel like I should just never stop working because there s always more to do.
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But I need to go hang out with my friends.
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Like that recharges me, that refuels me.
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And so in moments when I feel guilty about having a work-life balance, I have to be honest with myself.
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Are you actually getting your work done too?
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And then doing fun stuff?
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Or are you just doing the fun stuff?
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And if I m doing both, then I can conclude like, okay, this is the hustle culture voice speaking in my head.
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This is not reality.
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So now that we sort of know how to distinguish one from the other, let me share with you how I personally handle each one.
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When I determine that I m dealing with burnout, I allow myself to rest first and foremost.
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I move around my schedule to the best of my ability.
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I can t always move everything around, but I ll move as much around as I can to lighten things up a little bit.
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And then I ll figure out what it is in my life that s causing the burnout.
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Is it work-related?
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Is it relationship-related?
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Is it friend-related?
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What is it?
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What s happening?
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What s the root?
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I ll figure out what I need to address there so that my life doesn t feel as overwhelming and suffocating.
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And it s not always an overnight fix, but I think the best way to heal burnout, at least based on my experience, is to actually change your life.
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Change something in your life.
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And again, it sucks because it s not always something you can do overnight, you know?
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But I think that s the only way that you can heal it for good.
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I also think with burnout, talking to a professional is very helpful because it s a much deeper issue than being lazy or believing in hustle culture.
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It runs so much deeper.
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And for some people, just resting and making a few tweaks to life isn t enough.
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And so I think burnout needs to be taken the most seriously because it just runs way deeper.
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When I determine that I m being lazy, my first step is to ban entertainment for the next 48 hours minimum.
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Entertainment just feeds the laziness.
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It s so easy to procrastinate.
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It s so easy to distract yourself.
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So when I own up and admit to myself, you re being a fucking lazy bitch.
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The TV s off, the computer s away, the phone, well, the computer s not away, because I might actually have to work on the computer.
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The computer stays out, the phone goes in the other room.
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I m focusing.
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And I find it s also helpful during phases of laziness to make a checklist and to commit to completing the checklist to the best of my ability.
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And I might put the bare minimum on my checklist, but I force myself
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to put 100% into that shorter list of things to do.
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Because I found that it s harder to come out of a phase of laziness and then try to do everything all at once to the best of your ability.
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That s just too much.
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So I try to
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do the least amount I can to get by, but put 100% effort in.
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And then that starts to build my self-esteem back up.
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And then I started to feel more confident in myself.
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So I m like, okay, now I can go and I can do more tomorrow.
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But it starts with putting the entertainment away.
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I m not kidding.
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That changes everything.
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Everything.
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When you re in a lazy phase, you turn the TV off, you put your phone away, you put the book down, you do all that, and you just lay there quietly for a minute, you ll be out of bed.
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You ll be ready to go.
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I think during phases of laziness, it s still okay to watch a little TV before bed, but like during the working hours, off, right?
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That s what I do.
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I don t know.
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And last but not least, when I determined that my issue is hustle culture getting into my head,
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It s a matter of being proud of yourself for what you did accomplish.
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Realizing, hey, wait a minute, I did get shit done today.
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And hey, wait a minute, I m establishing a healthy work-life balance to avoid burnout in the future.
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I m doing the right thing.
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And there s nothing wrong with having a work-life balance.
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In fact, that is
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the best thing you can do, right?
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So it s more of a mindfulness activity, replacing the negative narrative that comes from hustle culture with a positive, confident narrative.
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Like, I m doing great.
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I m getting my shit done and I m having fun.
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This is what life s about.
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And that s kind of all you can do.
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when it comes to the hustle culture of it all, because the way that you re living your life is not flawed.
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Actually, it s just your mindset.
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You re actually getting enough done.
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You re not being lazy.
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You re not burnt out.
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You re actually doing great.
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You actually are very balanced.
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You re just listening to the wrong narrative.
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And that s all I have to say for today.
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That s it.
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That s all I got.
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I hope you enjoyed this episode.
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