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 So that's one and also I don't like blocking people But I love muting them
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 I don't like blocking people.
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I don't like knowing that I've put a wall in between someone because I can't handle what's going on.
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That feels like defeat sometimes.
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But muting things is important because not everything needs to be in your brain.
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So, sometimes you have somebody that you love, but you need to love them from a distance.
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That is the mute button to me.
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So, on social media, if you're getting a little too critical of me, if you're getting a little too frisky, if every time I do something,
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 You pop on, because it starts off cool.
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Hey, man, I love you so much, man.
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Do this.
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Okay, cool.
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Hey, man, blah, blah, blah.
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After a while, I'm going to mute you.
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I'm not going to block you.
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I'm going to mute you, because I don't need to hear your opinion on my life every single day.
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I just don't need that.
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There are people in my life who I entrust, who I've given them permission to give them opinions on my life.
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Like random people on social media, and some people that I even work with are not those people.
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 There you have it.
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Those are three powerful things.
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Therapy, breath work, and mute button.
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What's the biggest lesson you've learned from therapy?
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You have to control whatever it is for you.
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Stress, anxiety, fear.
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It's not going away.
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Self-doubt.
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It might not get worse, but it's not going to get better unless you deal with it.
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It's not going away.
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Sometimes you can be in different places.
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You might not feel stressed when you're in Turks,
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 You know what I mean?
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You might be there drinking a rum punch and you think, oh, two weeks, I'm feeling good.
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Well, you're going to get back to a place where the environmental triggers are going to be back there and some of the personal triggers in your life are going to be back there.
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And sometimes I would wonder whether or not I really wanted to address these problems or whether or not I was more comfortable having them.
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And therapy helps you, or it's helped me,
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 It's helped me learn that there is a prescription and a way to get around some of these things.
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You might not never cure them.
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It's like my homie told me, one of my trainers, I told him one time, I was like, back in the day when I was dunking all the time, dunking all over people.
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And he goes, but I could never jump off two feet.
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I can't jump off two feet either.
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I'm a one-footed dunker, man.
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I'm a one-footed, I'm a one-footed dunker.
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 Maybe five times I dunked off two feet.
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I've never once in life done it.
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Dude, it's so hard.
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And some guys can't jump off one foot.
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I know.
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And it's so weird.
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People ask me, like, you know, because if you're trying to get to the rim super quick, one foot is better.
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But if you're trying to do something crazy in the air or take a hit and finish, you need to jump off two feet.
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I can never jump off two feet.
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It's just not a thing, right?
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 And so I remember I was talking to a friend of mine.
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I go yo, can you teach me how to?
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Be an explosive two-footed jumper and he goes I can't promise that He says you I can do though.
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I can make you a better two-footed jump.
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Mm-hmm and I'm like
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 That's life.
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But you may never be able to explode out of the gym.
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It may never get to the point to where you're boom, off of that, doing whatever you want.
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That might not be for you, right?
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But you can get better at what it is that you're doing.
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You can get better.
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I might not ever be at the point to where I'm never feeling anxious in the world and never feeling anxious in my life.
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 But I can be better.
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I can be better.
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And like therapy, even though he taught me about the two-footed jumper thing, that was years before, right?
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I was like, oh, all right, I'm with that.
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When I talked to her, I'm thinking,
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 Life is about learning to jump off two feet.
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It's not about putting some sort of artificial goal in your head.
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I mean, you should have goals, right?
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Sometimes you need a finite goal.
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Sometimes your goal should just be to be better.
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Be better at what you're doing.
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What would you say is the biggest challenge, obstacle, or problem that you know you need to face and find a better solution for in your life right now?
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 resentment.
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Towards who?
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I feel like as a black man in America, if I didn't have some issues, I wouldn't be paying attention, right?
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Having said that, I need to always let those things inspire me to make change and actually do something.
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When I say actually do something, I mean awareness is great.
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Using my voice is great.
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Talking to people who have solutions are great.
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 but I'm gonna feel better served and I'll be a better servant if I'm actually initiating things and following people, not necessarily always leading.
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Maybe not leading a majority of the time, following people who are on the ground with answers that are doing things.
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I told you I met a guy in Chicago named Pastor Cory Brooks.
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I met a lady in Chicago named Inglewood Barbie.
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I met a guy in Chicago named Chicago King Dave.
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 When I was out of Chicago, we were in some of the worst areas of the city.
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People would call them the worst areas of the city.
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I call them areas where people are looking for solutions.
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And talking to all of these people, what I've learned is that anywhere there's a problem, there's somebody looking for a solution.
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And being that they're looking for a solution, you can be a part of that.
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And the reality is, being mad about it is only useful
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 being mad about it is only useful if it inspires you to do something.
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Like, other than that, the anger will be corrosive, it'll stop you from experiencing things, it'll stop you from expressing things.
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What has resentment, holding onto resentment in all these areas of your life, done for you?
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Or how has it hurt you?
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Well, one way that it's hurt me is it's probably cut off some relationships, you know what I mean?
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And it's probably made me
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 The socioeconomic resentment hasn't really hurt me at all, but I think resentment for other things has hurt me.
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 Some of the resentment I felt towards my parents, some of the resentment I felt towards friends of mine, some of the resentment I felt towards other people I was competing with, I think it caught me, it stopped me from viewing these people as human beings and looking at them as obstacles.
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Because once you, once resentment is inside of you, it just, it chokes inspiration.
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It just, it like, it chokes it.
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Resentment just chokes inspiration.
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So this is still a big part of your life right now, resentment?
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Not as much.
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 what would it take for you to let go of it?
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Totally?
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I don't know, Louis.
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And what do you think is available on the other side when you let go of that?
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As long as there are black women in this country who don't have access to adequate health care and who have a significantly higher chance of dying during childbirth, as long as there are black children who don't have what they need, I'm gonna have some resentment.
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 I think getting over the resentment is not as important as channeling it.
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Like recycling it.
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Like not letting it fester.
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Inside of you?
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Inside of you.
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What happens when you fester the resentment?
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When you fester the resentment, it turns.
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 it infects you, right?
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So like it, something inspiring you is one thing, something infecting you is a different thing.
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Like when you're infected with resentment, when you're infected with anger, when you're infected with these things, they actually shut off avenues to solutions to me.
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 They block them.
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They block them.
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Like you can't think past what it is that's going on and you need to be able to think.
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You need to be mentally limber.
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You need to be spiritually limber.
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You need to be nimble in these ways to solve problems.
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You need to be open.
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 You need to be able to look into the world with open hearts and open to in order to have a conversation with someone that you disagree with.
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You need to be mentally open.
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You need to be mentally limber.
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You need to be spiritually open.
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You need to be spiritually limber.
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You need to have that look in your eye that sometimes like.
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And I'm.
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So I'm from the South, so there are there's Christianity, as is portrayed in
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 by people that would hijack a plane at 30,000 feet and play their songs without asking anyone.
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And then there's real Christians, someone who really loves God.
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And this is not just Christians.
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This is any single mantra or religion or whatever.
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I know this rabbi, Rabbi Ari Lamb, you know what I mean?
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Him, some of my Muslim brothers, some of the Hindu people I know, the people that are really believers, there's a certain
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 certainty and a grace that they move with.
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Like you can talk to them about anything and they're like, oh, okay.
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Oh, nice.
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Okay.
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I disagree with you.
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Let me tell you what this teaches you.
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Let me tell you what this teaches you.
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Let me tell you what this teaches you.
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But there's an anointing, there's a circle around them.
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And this, even if you don't have like a religious belief, if you are really devoted to
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 Humanity itself, doing good for humanity can be a religion if you ask me.
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It can be a spiritual calling devoid of a higher power if you don't believe in that.
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And when people are truly anointed to do that, they sit and they listen and they absorb what you're giving them and they turn it around and give you back an energy with things that you never even thought of before.
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 or with disagreements that you can use to make your foundation stronger.
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Disagreements are incredibly valuable.
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But when you have resentment in your heart, disagreements are not disagreements, they're declaration of war.
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And if every single disagreement is a declaration of war, you'll never stop battling.
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So in order to remove the resentment and really find what society is based around, it was just compromise.
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 Compromise you don't win.
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I don't win we win Not my world Not your world right our world right and it's just hard to do With resentment, that's why we have to push ourselves a little bit to be a little bolder
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 All right?
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But we have to be accepting of one another.
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And when I say accepting, I mean, you know what I mean?
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Like, we have to talk to each other.
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I might have got that backwards.
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We have to talk to each other and say things to each other that aren't easy to hear.
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And it's much easier to do that if I can temper my resentment towards you.
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Right.
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But you said,
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 that you might always hold on to some resentment, right?
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It's always gonna be a little bit.
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I'm a human being.
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Sure, sure.
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I'm a guy.
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I'm a dude.
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I hear you, man.
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You know what I mean?
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I'm a dude.
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I would love to challenge you.
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Okay.
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In a loving way, to challenge you.
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Gotcha.
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To reframe the word, then.
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Okay, give it to me.
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Maybe it's not resentment.
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Maybe it's frustration.
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It's upset.
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It's sadness.
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 There's a wrong that you want to see right, or there's a struggle that you want to see peaceful in the world, or within a relationship, or whatever it might be, and have the feeling of anger, frustration, sadness, hurt, all these different things.
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Feel the feeling, but don't hold onto it consistently.
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This is something I'm learning still, because if I'm holding onto it, it's hard for me to see the person from a beautiful place, even if they're doing the most messed up stuff.
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 Not saying I need to agree with them, but to be able to find a solution with that cause or thing or person.
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It's not easy.
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It's a constant thing I'm working on.
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But as opposed to holding resentment, I'm coming from a defensive attack mode when I'm resentful personally.
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So something to look at.
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I will.
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I'll try.
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Something to consider.
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 Try it on, as a therapist would say.
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I love this, man.
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I'm excited for your journey, and I think it's interesting to see that you were a nine out of 10, now you're a seven out of 10.
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What do you think it would take for you to get back to the nine?
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Oh, I think it's coming.
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 I think if you'd asked me this question last year, it was a six.
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Oh, yeah.
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So it's coming back.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Or maybe even, and there were points in 2020 where it was probably a five.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like low.
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So I think I'm turning up where things are coming together.
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I just got to stay the course and continue to grow.
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Right.
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What is the thing that you wish you would have been able to say to your dad that you maybe didn't get to tell him?
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I appreciate what you were trying to do.
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 I appreciated it.
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In his way.
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In your way.
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You're alright, man.
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You did the best you could.
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With the tools you had.
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With how you were raised.
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With your measure of it.
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You did the absolute best you could.
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You know what I mean?
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And I got my hugs from mom, so it's okay.
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 You got the affection you need to kiss in the eyes.
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Your book, Fat, Crazy, and Tired, Tales from the Trenches of Transformation.
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It's out now.
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People can go get it over on Amazon or bookstores.
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They can follow you on social media, Van Lathan on Twitter, Instagram, and all the different places.
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You've got your podcast, Higher Learning Podcast on the Ringer Network.
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 Where you're doing that how often every week?
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How much a week?
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Two times a week.
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Two times a week?
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Yeah, Higher Learning Podcast.
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They can find that if they go to your Instagram, follow you there.
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You always got great clips on there.
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I love seeing your stuff, man.
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It's always very entertaining and inspiring.
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How else can we be of service and support to you right now?
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Oh man, nothing.
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That was amazing.
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I would like to thank Kalika.
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 my girl who put all of this together, who helped me.
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She was in contact with you guys, playing a little assistant role.
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She's a big fan of yours.
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But yeah, no, I think, listen, I've appreciated your friendship.
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I've appreciated being able to bounce things off of you.
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I've appreciated you challenging me sometimes, because Louis' answer for everything is just do it yourself.
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 The loosest answer to everything is, I remember when we were first talking about leaving TMZ and getting a podcast deal, he was like, just do it yourself.
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Just do it yourself.
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Why do you need a network or this or that?
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Why do you need a network, why do you need that?
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And to be honest with you, that is in the back of my mind every single time.
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 I'm not going to rush it but the point to where the answer is just do it yourself and I'm doing it and all of this is a big time inspiration to me so I appreciate you.
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That's cool man.
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I'm excited for that man.
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This is a question I ask everyone towards the end called the three truths.
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So imagine a hypothetical scenario last day on earth many years away.
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You live as long as you want to live.
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 But eventually you gotta turn the lights off and this time on your earth is gone.
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And you accomplished all your dreams.
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You're making movies, you're doing books, you're doing content, whatever it is you wanna create, you do it.
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Have family, anything, you make it come true.
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But for whatever reason, you gotta take all of your content with you to the next place.
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So no one has access to this book, the podcast, anything you've ever said, it's gone.
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 But you get to write down three lessons that you can share with the world.
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Three truths.
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And this is all we would have to remember your legacy by, essentially, these three messages.
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What would you say are those three truths for you?
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You're bigger than fear.
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Two is, it's not that big of a deal.
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And the third one is this.
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This is the most important one.
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 Every single problem has a solution.
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Nothing on this planet is bigger than our collective understanding
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 and our drive and will to be better, more healthy, and well-adjusted people.
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All of these problems that everyone keeps shoving down your throat every single day, all of these things that are wrong with the world, all of these things that are wrong with human society, we can figure them out.
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We can figure them out if we get on the right wavelength.
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 Concentrate on the solutions.
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Concentrate on getting better.
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You can fix it.
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Like, you can.
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Like, I swear to God, man, it's frustrating sometimes.
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You can fix it.
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You can be a part of it.
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So, I just want everybody to feel super empowered to go out and make the world as they need it to be.
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That's beautiful, man.
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 I want to acknowledge you, Van, before I ask you the final question for your constant journey of growth.
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I think it's challenging to go from one position and pretty much overnight get a lot of opportunities and have this awareness about you and take on the weight of these challenges and take on the weight of the responsibilities that come with it and do it in the face of
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 having an addiction that you've overcome and facing all these different challenges that way as well.
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I think it's really hard to overcome an addiction.
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I think it's one of the hardest things people have to learn how to do, especially a weight addiction or a food addiction that causes a weight and then it creates guilt and shame and all the stuff that happens there.
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So I acknowledge you, man, for being on the journey, the imperfect journey.
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 Grateful for you for using your voice to share a message for people, to let people know they don't have to be perfect, but they can be on the journey as well, just like you, and for constantly developing your own masterpiece.
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I appreciate that.
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It's beautiful, man.
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It's a beautiful, beautiful journey.
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Final question, what's your definition of greatness?
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 My definition of greatness is peace.
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That's what I'm telling you about me.
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So you have all of these things you want to do.
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I think about your story, right?
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So you have all this stuff that you want to do.
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You came from, you know, living on your sister's couch and all that stuff like that.
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The world isn't designed a lot of times for us to find peace.
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 There's always something, in order for you to go out and be a cog in the consumer wheel, you have to feel danger and pressure and all of these things.
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You have to feel that way, right?
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You have to feel all of those things.
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You have to feel, okay, I've got to do this or the light's going to get cut out.
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I've got to do this or this is going to happen.
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I've got to do this or this person's not going to want to have sex with me.
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I've got to do this.
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I've got to do this.
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I've got to do this.
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 Greatness to me is when you're at a peaceful place in your life and you can seriously look back and you have all the latitude to figure out how you want things to be.
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And you have to build towards that.
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And you have to get there.
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To me, Michael Jordan was the best on the court, the greatest on the court, because he was the most peaceful.
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He wasn't rattled.
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 Like you couldn't rattle him, you couldn't get him out of himself.
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Like he was intense, but he knew the shot was going in.
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He knew that he would succeed.
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He knew that he was the most, he had the least amount of chaos in his body.
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When you see a situation to where like, you see Dr. King,
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 And he's talking to someone.
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You might see people yelling at him.
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You might see people throwing rocks at him.
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You might see people... Watch how he comports himself.
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He comports himself in a way because he is absolutely at peace with who he is.
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Even at peace with the fact that who he had to be was going to mean that his life was going to be cut short.
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 Peace gave him the opportunity to be completely dead set on what he was doing, and in the face of any adversity, never lose himself.
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So every single great person that I know,
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 Makes you feel like things are gonna be okay.
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Makes you feel like you're at peace and confident with them when you're around them, right?
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And so that's what I look at it like.
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And that's kind of what this place has, man.
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It's a very peaceful place.
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I walk in here, I walk in here, 10 minutes I'm in here, somebody's showing me a picture of their son's first step.
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You know what I mean?
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Like you guys seem peaceful and humble and ready to serve.
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So I think greatness is peace.
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My man, thanks so much for being here.
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No problem, my guy.
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Appreciate you, man.
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 Thank you so much for listening.
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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and inspired you on your journey towards greatness.
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And if no one's told you lately, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.
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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.