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Welcome, welcome, welcome to armchair expert.
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I m Dak Shepherd.
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I m joined by Monica Padman.
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We have a rare occurrence.
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Occasionally we ll interview two people at the same time.
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It s pretty rare, but it happens.
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And it also marks back-to-back episodes where we were out on the ground somewhere else interviewing people.
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On the road.
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Out of our safety zone.
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Out of the attic.
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In this case, we were at a hotel in Austin, Texas.
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That s right.
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And it ll come up in the fact check what all we did while we were there.
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Yeah.
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But this is Jake Gyllenhaal and Conor McGregor.
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Jake is an Academy Award nominated actor and Conor McGregor is a multi-weight UFC champion entrepreneur.
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He s the only person to hold belts in two different weight classes.
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Fascinating human being and he s never done a podcast.
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Yes, this was his first podcast, which was super fun.
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Yes.
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I m tempted to say as a caveat that my hope and aim for this episode was to be able to connect with Connor and get him to trust me and explore some maybe more emotional things that are not readily discussed with him.
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So I guess I got a little self-conscious.
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I think as you re hearing it, you ll hear a bro-ier side of me.
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Oh, interesting.
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And I don t know why I want to just flag that going in, but I hope people give me a little benefit of the doubt and know that I m trying to get somewhere, which I feel like we got.
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That s fair to say.
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Yeah.
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And of course, the reason they re together is they are in a reimagining or remake of one of my all time favorite movies,
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For people who heard the Jake Gyllenhaal episode last year, he just kind of as a throwaway mentioned he was with Conor McGregor.
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And I was like, what the fuck are you doing with Conor McGregor?
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And he s like, oh my God, we re remaking Roadhouse.
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And I went berserk, if people remember.
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Roadhouse is my movie.
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I mean, top five.
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What a film.
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This Roadhouse delivers holy fistfights and car chases and boat chases.
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I mean, it s action packed, full throttle.
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So Roadhouse is streaming this Thursday, March 21st on Prime Video.
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So you can check it out the day it comes out.
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You don t have to go anywhere.
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That s fun.
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So fucking pop some popcorn, put on a tight shirt, get some dumbbells.
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Get a drink going.
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Get several drinks going and enjoy Roadhouse.
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And then lastly, just want to let everyone know the Armchair Anonymous prompts for next month are tell us about a crazy cosplay experience, tell us about your worst day ever, tell us your best cautionary tale, or tell us a crazy experience you had as a delivery driver.
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in any, any many ways you could be a delivery driver.
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Please enjoy Jake Gyllenhaal, Jake Gyllenhaal and Conor McGregor.
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You guys, it s so awesome that you re here.
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Hello!
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How are you?
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Good to meet you, brother.
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I m so happy to get to talk to you.
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Hi, I m Monica.
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Very nice.
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You look so nice.
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I love the purple.
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We had Jake on 11 months ago, and it was a beautiful interview.
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It was so fun.
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Yeah.
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I listened to it on the flight here.
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You did?
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Yeah, to reacquaint myself.
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It was so fun.
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The chairs aren t as nice, but you re great.
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And by the way, the row, I ve been like, you know.
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Do you think of me now?
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I ve told you on the row.
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I love it.
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I felt very flattered, because after you visited us, you sent us both gifts, which was very sweet of you.
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You got to send us something really nice.
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Yeah, Jake already sent us something nice.
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Jake sent us a present after we interviewed him last time.
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Alcohol?
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I do.
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Boy, I used to like it.
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I m a producer.
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No, but you should have seen me do it when I did it.
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It was something to behold.
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We re coming out with 00 Ford Stout.
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The 00 thing is growing legs, innit?
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You gotta be careful with the goggle.
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You gotta be careful with it.
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I m an athlete, right?
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And I m also an athlete that makes alcohol.
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Yes, yes.
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It s kind of yin and yang.
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You don t put one with the other, so I ve got to be careful with it.
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I have imparted, like a rock star, probably like myself back in the day, something to behold also.
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Sure, sure.
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A real sight.
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But hey, it s Paddy s mom!
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St.
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Patrick s month, I don t give a fuck also.
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But I know my limits as well and my boundaries.
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And I m coming to the finish of this.
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I ve got this Roadhouse promotional tour.
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I ve got St.
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Patrick s Day.
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But I ve got a fight on the horizon.
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I just want the fucking date.
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If they give me a date and I say, right, and I know I can t miss.
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I m in the best shape ever and then I ll have a party and I ll go heavy on it and then...
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You know, I kind of build it back up, but if I have a date, I won t deal with that.
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Yeah, you must reverse-engineer your life from these hard dates.
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But I gotta tell you, we re competitors then, because I have a non-alcoholic beer.
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Have you, yeah?
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I do.
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Oh, wow.
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Ted Seeger s.
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What a memory, Jake.
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So, I m gonna tell you one of our taglines, and I feel like you re gonna be jealous.
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What s it called, first of all, sorry?
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Ted Seegers.
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Ted Seegers.
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Good strong name, right?
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What is it now, a lager?
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Yes, yes.
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I have two lagers as well, I haven t released them.
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So I own a brewery in Ireland.
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I know, I know all about you.
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I have a house lager that I made, forged lager.
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It s a light, crispy beer and it s very successful on premise.
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I haven t bottled or canned it yet.
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There s so many lagers out there.
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You know, I m looking at this whole thing like I m looking at a map.
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I ve got the stout doing well.
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But I ve actually got two lagers with the same recipe.
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I added more hops into the crispy one and made a darker beer.
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So it s like a beer of Moretti or a Heineken.
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I love it.
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I didn t think you and I would have anything that deeply in common, but we re like... I have to draw the line there.
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You went heavy, just wore all day, every day.
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Yeah, and I love cocaine so much.
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It smells so good.
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It really smells nice.
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You got to be careful.
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We got a full-blown addict audience over here.
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But I just want to hit you with two... You look fresh, man.
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You look fresh.
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There s a comeback on the cards, man.
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I m telling you.
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I believe.
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Let s hang when I m 70.
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But I just have two slogans I want to hit you with, because I feel like they re going to really, really register.
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One is, Ted Seegers is the only logger I trust when I m alone with my sister-in-law.
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The next one is, drive fast, fuck slow.
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Ted Seegers.
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Do you guys write that on the thing?
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Yeah, the poster s in the bar right now.
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Let me go back to the sister-in-law.
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So sister-in-law, not related, your brother s wife, is it?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But there s two ways to go.
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Either you don t want to be drunk around her, because it can go either way.
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Maybe you ll hook up with her, maybe you ll kill her.
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Don t blame salt for what sugar s done, you know?
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Don t blame alcohol for what cocaine s done, if you get me, you know?
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I don t know.
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People are... You know, it s 2024.
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You wouldn t know what s going on.
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It was our fault.
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No, anyway, man.
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I d love a beer now, actually.
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Rob, get the mirrors up.
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Okay, how long have you guys been doing this?
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Jake s face matches my face.
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Wait, I do want to call out something that s really obvious about the two of you, and it s really wonderful.
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It s an incredible dynamic, because I ve already interviewed Jake, and I ve watched you in a lot of interviews.
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Jake, you re very careful.
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You re kind of meticulous about what you say.
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You want to make sure that you re representing yourself correctly.
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Hmm.
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It s a good way.
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Do you agree or not?
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Yeah, deep tinker.
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I don t want to go forward unless you think that s true.
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I mean, thoughtful.
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I try at least feigning articulation.
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He s running at like a hundred miles an hour.
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I m in like a sort of second gear generally, and then he can get me into it, you know?
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When we re together, I m announcing, hey, everyone s a notorious Conor McGregor.
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Check out our new movie, Broadhouse on Prime.
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And then Jake s like, I want something in front of my name.
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What was the name?
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He came up with Anxious Jake Gyllenhaal.
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Anxious Jake Gyllenhaal.
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Jittery Jake Gyllenhaal.
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Jittery Jake Gyllenhaal.
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The thing about it is that we didn t meet actually in person until he came on set.
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Oh no.
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Yeah, because he was there maybe a week before.
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I was working a lot.
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We had choreography, but they were rehearsing somewhere else.
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We were shooting.
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And then when he came on set, it was like a crowd followed him.
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People were craning their necks when he walked on set.
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He s such incredible energy when he walks in that to me, all I want to do is like, watch him.
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So inevitably when we re together, I m just sort of like, we re doing interviews and people ask me a question and he answers and I m like, that sounds good to me.
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That s fine.
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You just defer.
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It s a great pairing because you guys are on opposite sides of the spectrum in that regard.
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And then of course it then feeds into the movie, which is beautiful.
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It s like,
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You re very, very, no bravado.
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You have a regret about your past.
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You re kind of low-key.
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You don t even want to be doing the thing.
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And then you arrive, there s a tornado here.
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It s loud as fuck.
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It s the most wonderful asymmetry.
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Oh, there s potential mega business between myself and Jake Gyllenhaal.
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We can do a lot of stuff, 100%.
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It works.
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That first scene where he headbutts me, that was the first time we ever were on screen together.
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I remember that moment going like, what the fuck am I doing in a scene where Conor McGregor s about to headbutt me?
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And then I had to remind myself that I d been doing this for a while.
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That was a space I could hold with any headbutt mean.
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You might not have felt it from me, right?
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Maybe I m a better actor than I probably give myself credit.
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Yes.
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But I felt that for sure.
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You re a true veteran.
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As good as it gets, as big as it gets, 75 films.
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I felt that as well.
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I didn t want to let you down.
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I didn t want to let anyone down and think I was not doing my best, you know.
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So I put in the time I put in for you.
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Yeah, but you said early on, you said, I m a white belt in this.
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That was like the first conversation we had.
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That s a real martial arts way of looking at things, especially the mixed martial arts.
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You know, you look at a guy who s a specialist in boxing or kickboxing or some discipline.
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They have too much of an ego then to go and become a white belt again.
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You have got to become a white belt again.
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You ve got to start from the ground up.
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I used the lessons I learned in my martial arts game, studying and learning different crafts into the movie.
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business.
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I m a white belt coming into this and I m absolutely blessed and thankful and grateful and a lucky Irish SOB that I m at the landing right next to this man and with director Doug Liman, with producer Joel and the team that was behind it.
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I just approach it with a novice mindset.
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I m going to argue you weren t a white belt.
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Yes, I m going to argue that too, actually.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We ll team up on him.
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He ll still win.
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Here we go.
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I would not gang up on him.
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You just probably want him.
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You re with me, lady.
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You want me on your team.
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You want to stand by the exit, I think.
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You know, when I look at your career as a fighter, the most obvious comp is Muhammad Ali.
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As far as just showman, showman, showman, I m almost even curious, would you rank yourself higher as a promoter than a fighter?
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And then is that a dicey question?
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I think you re one of the best promoters to ever live.
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I agree with that.
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And you re one of the best fighters to ever live, but I think you re literally tied with Ali as far as creating excitement and vitriol and passion.
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You re a fucking showman.
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And a storyteller.
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I think above all things.
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I m a damn good fighter, though.
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I m a damn good fighter.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don t want to fight you.
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I don t really.
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I m great, to be honest with you.
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Yes.
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And, you know, my reckless nature.
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That s the best attitude.
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My reckless nature.
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At times, I ve never been beaten.
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I ve beat myself going in.
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I ll take that as a good compliment.
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Ali s the man.
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Ali began that showmanship element to the fight game.
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Oh, you get it.
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But for me, there s a lot more left in my game and I look forward to getting back in and showing it.
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I m not trying to take anything away from you as a fighter, but I m saying you actually will go down in history as probably tied as the best showman to do it.
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And I also think the transition for guys, the rock in WWE into acting, it s like they re already
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They have a character.
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They have a persona.
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They have the confidence of getting up in front of a crowd and talking.
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You re at these press conferences.
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You ve been practicing show business for a minute.
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Yeah, but not even practicing, my man.
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There s no act on.
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I am who I am in the given moment.
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If Jake is a different person to me...
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I m gonna be a different person to Jake.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You get me?
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And so some fighters, that s the way it is.
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Look at the Portier fights.
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I knocked him out in the first one and then he comes back and we re friendly.
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And then a few things get said after he gets the win back.
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And then it just changes again.
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It s not acting, it s just what it is.
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Well, you have facets to you.
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But I have, like us all.
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Yeah, you re a dad.
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And the fight game has put that to the forefront in front of the world.
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For those Mayweather press conferences, 25,000 people are there for the press conference.
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The very first one.
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The way the UFC press conferences are laid out, you sit on a table and then the media asks you a question.
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Hello, Conor, how was training?
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In boxing, it s not the case.
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You walk in and you got to say something.
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So I m sitting up on the stage.
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I got to go up and say a big speech and I fucking have nothing in my head.
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I don t know what to be saying.
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And I just roll with it.
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I want to go back to the first big
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press tour they put you on, I think was for Aldo, yeah, maybe, where you went to eight cities.
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And then he pulled down on me, man.
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Then I had to do it again.
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That first press tour, again, Jake and I can relate to this.
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We ve been doing press tours for movies for 25 years.
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That would have helped me for sure.
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Well, that s what I m curious.
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I wasn t dialed in yet.
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So on that first press tour where UFC s like, you re the guy, we re going to commit some actual capital to this.
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We re going to send you around the country and raise some fervor for this live event, which set records.
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It was the first time I had ever done that.
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What was your learning curve on that?
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Like, I m curious, you couldn t have started where I see you now, where you can go toe-to-toe with Mayweather and talk shit.
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Well, you know, I went up against the pound-for-pound goat at that time, Jose Aldo, undefeated in 10 years and an absolute menace in the octagon.
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People thought he was going to run through me.
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I thought otherwise.
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I had confidence.
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At that time, he s a 28-year-old man.
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I made him feel about 48.
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He s saying he s past his prime, all this thing.
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It was all just trying to get into his head.
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I didn t do it, like, even thinking I was going to do it.
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I believed it also.
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You are over the hill.
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You re at the having too many wars.
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I was live at one of his fights against Chad Mendes, so I ended up fine.
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It was an absolute war.
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It s a crazy game, the fight game.
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That promo and that world tour really set a precedent for the industry.
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We were still kind of fringe.
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Now I m hearing that we re top four in the sports.
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So you ve got your American football, baseball, and the UFC now is top four.
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which means it either passed basketball or NHL.
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I think it was the other one.
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I m not sure.
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Now this was someone from Endeavor saying that, but I believe for me it is.
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For me it s top one.
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I love that.
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Even in early interviews, I was listening to one with you and the guy s like, you know, they just said you re the fifth most recognizable sports star.
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Oh, it was Tony Robbins.
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And you go, that s a shit test.
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I think they got the data wrong.
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That s it, man.
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You gotta have it that way.
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Were you always that confident as a kid?
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I don t know.
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You just gotta fake it till you make it.
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I always felt that I was the man.
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That s the way I felt.
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That s the way I carried myself.
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And it worked.
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And as you re saying, Jake, about the foreword of me rocking around with people like a fucking circus.
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Sometimes life is like a circus.
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You re like an animal in a cage.
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Although you re out and you re free, sometimes it s like you re in a cage.
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Yeah, but you do have two older sisters.
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Wait, what does that mean?
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Well, I ll tell you, he s got an older sister too.
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Okay.
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So probably the only nice part about you was implanted by those older sisters.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So they re relevant in your mother.
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Okay.
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The things we often are tackling in here, cause I suffer from it as like, I m from a blue collar shit, whole place in Detroit.
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I m a fucking drunk.
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I want to know about the shit stuff people s been through.
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That s now made them who they are today.
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I see that in you that you re interested in that.
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So for me, the most pivotal moment I m curious about is you walk into a boxing
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school at 12.
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That s the first time you walk in.
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And I want to know why we walk in there.
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I want to know that too.
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Like most young boys, why they get into combat sport is to defend themselves.
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I was nervous in scenarios.
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I was attacked once or twice.
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I m from a rough area.
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I m from a rough town.
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Dublin 12.
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You get into fights.
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Were you small for your age?
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I was small enough.
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My hair was real blonde.
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I stood out like a sore thumb.
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I never got away with nothing.
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And you had sisters, no older brothers?
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No older brothers.
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My older sisters would have a fight themselves.
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Yeah, don t.
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It wasn t like I was a major thing, but I just wanted to be able to defend myself.
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I knew that was critical as a young boy growing up.
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It led me to begin to study the arts.
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Do you remember the moment, though?
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Like, is there a moment where you went, oh, this feels right?
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Why I said, oh, I m going to a gym, fuck this.
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Everyone and everything they do, there s like the hard work.
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There s the moment where everyone goes like, well, I could do that.
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And they re like, well, are you willing to put in that work, right?
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And with every job.
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And there s that moment where, you know, it doesn t matter.
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You just got to go back.
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One of the moments, I think I ve spoke this before.
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I was with this chick, right?
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I was young.
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She was about 16.
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I was, whether or not she was all that.
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I was only about 12.
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They killed me.
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Respect, yeah.
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You know yourself.
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And we were walking down the street, and she had an older boyfriend, who was older than me as well.
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These motherfuckers drive by me in a car, packed out about five or six of them.
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And a man jumps out, and she s with the guy, but she s with me, do you know that way?
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So I m just standing on the road, and I just threw a few shots, and we just covered up and took the shots, and got left for the yoke.
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We kept going, and I think it happened again.
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The second time I grabbed a hold of him, and ended up in top position, and just rolled him over.
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And then I got out of there.
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It was the same thing as outmanned, outnumbered, and outaged, everything.
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And then I just said, no, I m not letting that happen.
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When someone walks up to me, they re not going to walk up on me twice.
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And that s it, I was straight.
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I went straight into the gym and I learned how to fight.
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Okay, so right now, this is the most exciting thing.
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So the reason I have to start getting involved with fighting is I m in sixth grade and the most popular girl in eighth grade asks me out, Sasha Crossey.
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Similar, similar.
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And I m like, oh my God, what a miracle.
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And then guess what?
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Every eighth grade boy fucking hated my guts.
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And so almost the exact same situation where it s like, I let someone
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basically beat me up because I was afraid.
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And the pain, I try to explain this, Monica s like, why are you being in bar fights?
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The physical pain for me doesn t even compare to the regret pain of not fighting back.
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Trying to fall asleep at night going, fuck, you didn t even fucking fight back that.
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Mental agony, where you go, there isn t a broken nose that hurts as much as that.
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Was any of that happening?
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Yeah, for sure.
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I just wanted to get out, and I said it was an out, it was till midnight.
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Yeah, you re scared.
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There s a moment in life a dude might decide
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that the back down mental agony and regret, you ll never experience that again.
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What s so great about him is how he s been in defeat.
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I would say one of the things that makes him such an interesting personality and showman and what I really admire is watching him in defeat.
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No, that s the most mind-blowing part of it all.
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Sorry, I don t mean to jump ahead.
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We re definitely, in my analogies, George Foreman, the story of Ali Foreman, and up to that point, George Foreman is undefeated.
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He s such a heavy hitter.
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He s the baddest motherfucker on planet Earth.
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Ali beats him.
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He goes into a depression for like five years.
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It ruins his own identity.
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You re in a game where you re gonna get losses.
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It s not like boxing in that you re gonna pick up some losses, but you ve had some streaks,
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that ended, and in those streaks I imagine you felt that same indomitability.
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What did it do to you emotionally and mentally when you would suffer one of those defeats?
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It s never nice.
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You start just playing back everything, but it happens.
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The sun rises the next day.
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The sun rises the next day.
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I wouldn t let the fear of failure
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I d urge everyone, don t let the fear of failure stop you from going out and experiencing it and doing things that frighten you, that you may lose.
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The sun rises the next day, we go back in, we go again.
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This is what martial arts is.
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Guess what?
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Every single martial artist, every single UFC fighter you see right now has gone through a million losses inside the gym.
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You get beaten in the gym every fucking day.
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what it is.
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It can happen.
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It s about adjusting and coming back.
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But I appreciate you saying that, Jake.
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I only have a few fucking losses that are overplayed.
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People want to downplay my success.
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I m coming up on 20 knockouts in professional mixed martial arts history, a feat that very, very few have, along with all the world titles won.
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20 professional KOs is a huge
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So I focus on the good, and if I think about everyone I ve fought in the octagon, more than once I ve smoked.
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I upended Nadia after they beat me.
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I KO d Paré in 60 seconds, and I was walking him like a fucking dog in a lead in the second foot.
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Cut the leg, caught Lucky, and then the toad when he was getting broke up as well.
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This is the moment that happens when someone s got an edge on him and then he s like, nope.
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I m sitting here like that, yeah, keep thinking.
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So it s just I m being able to control this animal in me as well.
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Because I tell you what, if I didn t commit
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everything to it and I was partying away while I was training, which I ve done.
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I ve done it all.
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I ve partied on fucking fight week and then I ve lived like a monk.
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I ve done them both and I ve had varying runs on both, so it s not even about that.
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But I think for my own good, if I didn t dial in and it didn t go my way, which can anything can happen, I m very, very confident.
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I like the opponent lines up that I have.
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I like the level I m at now, skill-wise, and what my recent work is.
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But if I didn t give it my all and it went my way, I don t think I d be able to live with myself.
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I d really be disappointed in that.
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Whereas if I gave it everything and I took it, I d say, now enjoy the entertainment, people.
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You re welcome.
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Because at the end of the day, we re giving something for the people.
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Life is this big, arching story, and your fighting s a part of it.
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But what is amazing, and Ali had this.
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Ali lost, and then he d come back, and he d lost.
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In the overall, it doesn t matter.
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No, do you think anyone s looking back and saying Ali s the greatest?
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He was.
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In what manner?
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Like, why do you think that?
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Do I think he s the greatest boxer?
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I mean, he s not.
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Yeah, because he beat every kind of guy.
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Because I was asked, what s my favorite movies of Jake?
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He was asked, what s his favorite fight of mine?
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And he said something that I was surprised by, but it s actually accurate.
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It s bigger than fighting.
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It s the whole thing is what he was saying.
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Like you step back, you re looking at the micro, like you re talking about this fight and that fight.
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And I m saying as the macro lens, when you pan out, I think you will, if you re not already, you probably already have the gratitude.
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But when you look back on the deathbed, you re like, Oh, all those little chapters.
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And I made the story super interesting.
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And I doubted myself and I refound my courage.
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And I went right back at the same guy.
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That s a much more complex and colorful and interesting life.
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Yeah.
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Well, there s a reason some people supersede the sport.
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If you don t know the sport, but you know the person.
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Is he the only UFC fighter you know?
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Yeah, 100%.
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I don t know anything about... And Jake s the only actor you know, right?
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Exactly.
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Did you just learn that I was an actor?
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Monica just learned that I was an actor.
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She thought you were a fashionista.
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Yeah, which you are.
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Which you are.
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Wait, I do have a question for you because I want to know how universal this thing is.
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A girl made me feel inadequate, basically, and that made the trajectory— Well, not a girl.
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A girl made me feel adequate.
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From a physical standpoint, you faltered or disguided you to succeed?
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The thing that you guys both connect with, do you have that?
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Like, do all men, did the trajectory of your life change because of this male competition?
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Probably.
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For me, yeah, yeah.
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For you, for sure.
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Probably, yeah.
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Are you saying that happened to you also?
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No, I m trying to figure out... Oh, is it a man thing?
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Yes.
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Jake s saying he doesn t have that.
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But Jake has a different disposition, so I m wondering.
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Yeah, I d like to sing and stuff.
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Also, context, context.
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Like, you grew up in Hancock Park.
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Right.
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Where s Hancock Park?
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In LA.
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Fancy pants.
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There are definitely a fair share of fights, but yes, I hear what you re getting at.
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It s not the same.
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Every kid I went to school with his dad worked on the line at General Motors, right?
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And they taught him, you fucking punch that kid in the mouth the second he says something.
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It s the Kentucky culture of pride that s all up north.
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Like, it s a different thing.
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And there were five, six fights a week in school, and then there s scheduled fights at the Milford Cinema on Friday night.
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deep respect for that because it is so different from the world in which I grew up.
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And to answer your saying, Monica, I think I grew up with this different type of expression.
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There was a focus and a honing in and a consistency every day in trying to understand a different kind of craft.
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So I get that when you perform and you re on stage and the energy of that and what you get back from an audience, you know, there are similarities, but there are not the same ones.
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So I admired that, particularly like in the space of growing up and going, what s this world I didn t know anything about.
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So I like went and played all these roles and learned from
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all these people.
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You ve been special forces, you ve been all these hyper-masculine things.
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But to learn from people like him.
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I remember when I was sitting next to Eminem when I did this movie Southpaw and he did the music and we did all this press together and I was like, what the hell?
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I ve listened to all his music.
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How am I sitting next to this guy?
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Like, this is crazy.
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It s brought me to people like that.
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But I ve admired what you re saying and I ve looked in those worlds and I m still trying.
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That s why when we were fighting, right, I don t have anywhere near those skills.
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But what I was trying to understand was I wanted to learn from him.
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You get to learn from the best.
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comical that this was yours.
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I mean, it is.
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It s literally yin and yang, isn t it?
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No, it is.
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You re a great man, Jake.
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You re a great lad.
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Serious, for real.
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You make me feel like a bad guy.
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It s good, though.
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It just works, doesn t it?
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It does.
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No, it s a beautiful pairing.
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And he ll decide it and he ll come up with it, but it fucking works.
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I watched the movie two nights ago and I text him and I m like,
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Dude, hats fucking off.
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Any real human that stands across from Conor McGregor, and I believe for half a second he might win, it s almost impossible.
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I don t know why he let them cast him.
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I don t know why either.
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I literally don t.
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I got the call.
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I got the call.
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I remember where I was, because I knew they were chasing him for a long time.
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And there was a part of me that was like, oh my God, that d be amazing.
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And I was like, oh my God, I don t want that to happen.
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And then I was like, then I get the call.
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Everyone was so excited.
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And it was like, they accepted the offer.
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You bought the best house.
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And I was like, absolute fucking buyer s remorse.
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Let s just say it s like you re playing a snowboarder in a movie and your competition, Sean White is in the movie.
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And you re like, really?
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No one s going to buy this.
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You want them to face replace you on Sean voice.
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But to be up against, I mean, there was this moment though, like when we did meet up for the first time, he had really tried to stay in the space of who the character was.
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He s this wild nature, like in that space that you see when he first enters.
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Oh yeah, he s terrifying.
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And so he was like that.
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As another actor, I could understand what he wanted to get in that space.
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He s like, I m in it.
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I m fucking Knox.
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And he s in the corner.
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He s like, I m ready to take you out.
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I was trying to figure out whether this is a character.
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But then I was like, wait, wait.
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So you, yeah, but like I talk all the time about, okay, so we try and get into the space.
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Cause I think the octagon is a sacred space.
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And I think that in front of the camera is a sacred space too.
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When you re in there, you go, okay, you talked a game.
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Now he s in your space.
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And now he s about to present this thing to you.
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He s been working on a character and what are you gonna do, cower?
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In your head, you have to go like, all I fucking circles around you, bitch.
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Let s go.
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In my head, I went, I ve spent 30 years doing this.
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You ve spent 30 years doing this.
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Let s party.
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They re two different, but that s the look that we have at each other.
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But that s perfect for this movie.
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To go back to the way Jake was raised enviably his mom s an artist his dad s an artist He s free without any fear of being emasculated by pursuing that inside of him.
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That s beautiful.
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Yeah, so
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I started there and I ve been trying to let go of all the shit.
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Trauma, like from years past?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Walking into a room and going like, what guy is, okay, now I got to keep my eyes on him.
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Always prepared.
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Like you were saying, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting.
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When s this shit going to hit the fan?
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What s my plan?
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Everywhere I go and trying to accept that my life has gotten good.
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I m 49.
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I ain t hanging out at the Milford cinema.
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I don t really have to have
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have that anymore.
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And I ve been watching you.
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I m so fascinated by you.
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You re such a fascinating human being on planet Earth.
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And I know you, I was broke as shit.
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You got the fucking money.
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You got the cars.
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You drove like a knucklehead.
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You got the boat.
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You got it all.
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I know we had the fantasy.
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I know we had the fantasy.
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I m going to get this shit and I m going to feel this way.
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And then you get this shit and you re like,
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Why don t I fucking feel that?
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Did you have that experience?
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Yeah, for sure.
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It goes back to them, the love of what you re doing and what vehicle you use to get you there.
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I use my love of martial arts and being in great shape and being physically ready to compete against another well-trained individual.
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Once you acquire all of these things, you kind of just revert back to what you are then.
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You know, I wake up, I like to get my training in.
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I like to get my good food in.
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I m sharp then in the mind.
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I m fresh then.
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I go about my business throughout the day.
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I go back in then later in the evening, you get another training session in.
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It s the same as what I was doing anyway.
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It s around nicer surroundings, but it s the same thing.
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That s why I always say, understand right now, young athletes or young
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aspiring actors, what you re doing right now, this second, you might not have a pot to piss in, you might have no money, you might have really bad surroundings, but what you re doing right now is what you will be doing when you achieve it.
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So carry yourself as if you have achieved it, because you have.
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You re living the dream.
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That kind of took the edge off for me as well.
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I imagine you have to ask yourself, I know what got me here.
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You look back, we know.
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Is that what will keep me here?
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Yeah, yeah, it s a different time.
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Who do I want to be for the next chapter?
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I think that s an interesting question for you.
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I ve wrestled with it.
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I don t know the answer to that.
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I m probably just
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an addict to the fight game.
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I m addicted to the fight game.
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I just want to get in and I want to test myself.
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There s more in me.
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This is gonna be the hardest question I ask.
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Was there a sweet boy, though, that was 12, who that girl liked, who you had to kind of fucking put away and start on this other path?
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that maybe as you re a father and you think of your next chapter of your life, do you want to let that little boy out that was sweet?
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Maybe, maybe, maybe.
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Not that you re not sweet.
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I m not saying you re a monster.
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It s such a beautiful business.
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When you make that walk and you step your bare feet on the canvas, it s
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freedom for a person like me.
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Then you re challenging yourself and then the lights, the action, the crowd.
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I m not saying fighting couldn t be a part of that.
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Yeah.
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You could still fight and then fucking, in therapy they call it, not incorporating, what do they call it when you...
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integrate.
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You like integrate the little boy that had to go away at 12.
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And then you re a model of dudes like, oh no, I ll still knock motherfuckers out.
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And I ll tell you I m scared of life.
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And I m scared of my wife being mad.
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That s interesting.
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Yeah.
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Do you know what, now that you say that, my children, my son, Connor Jr., my firstborn son, really brought that back out in me.
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And I look at him with no trauma or no life experience.
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It s me as a
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young boy, blank canvas, how sweet I used to be.
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And then I start blaming people.
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Not blaming people, I m saying, you motherfuckers hardened me or changed me a bit, you know what I mean?
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But see the way you re saying you re dealing with life s trauma.
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I have that as well.
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We all have our trauma that we re dealing with.
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I got into this stage in life of trying to think of why the person done that to me or why they were that way to me.
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And then trying to understand from their standpoint, you know what I mean?
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We have compassion for them and I felt empathy and that was it then.
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Yeah, the dudes who were fucking with me, their dads were kicking their ass.
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Exactly, or even my own father had a lot going on through his life.
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I caused him to be a certain way.
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I always just tried to understand that then.
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As I got older, I said the things he went through made him in this way.
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You know, it just made me a lot more forgiving, a lot more acceptable.
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Not that anything bad with my father.
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It wasn t great.
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My father was an angry man at times.
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Angry at his situation.
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Now I look at him, I came back for my people.
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And now he s a little happy sap walking around with the money in the pocket and all, you know?
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I tried to see it from other people s, why are they like that?
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You know, how people are with you is more a reflection of them than it is of you.
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A thousand percent.
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So if you kind of understand it, it brings you to ease, you know, brings you peace.
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But the fatherhood, for me, this has been the most illuminating for who I am.
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I have two girls.
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So I haven t had to decide if I m going to tell them like, listen, man, whoever hits first generally wins.
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You get some shit, you swing.
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If I had a son, I got to decide what I m going to pass on.
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Right.
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And I have a girl and it s already come up where someone s talking mean to her and how am I going to tell her?
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And I m at this crossroads where it s like, do I want this little person to have to go down the same road as me or do I want to go?
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No, no, that s actually not the world they re in.
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That s not me protecting them by giving him this skillset.
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I just imagine you with a boy have to be deciding, do I teach him how to be me, or do I trust that the world s beautiful enough that he doesn t need it?
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Because it comes with a price.
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I have them in class, I do my own training with them.
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Life has to show itself at some point, you know.
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But do you wrestle with it, I guess?
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My daughter s in, she trains with Cecilina Gracie, one of the Gracie daughters.
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Jiu-Jitsu is a really great martial art, especially for women, for anyone.
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You know, you get a Jiu-Jitsu lady wrap you up in a bow, man, at the end of the interview.
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There s no danger.
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Yeah, they re doing crazy stuff.
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There s no danger.
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So we ve got some world champions in our gym, some female world champions, but train martial arts.
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Pray nothing happens.
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It s all peace and flowers and love and happiness and hope for the best, but prepare for, you know.
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Yeah, it s just tricky.
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Conor, my old 26, is very artistic.
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I could see acting school or some sort of school of performing arts.
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I d love to send my child.
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Him and my daughter, Crea, do Irish dancing.
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Oh, wonderful.
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So I used to do Irish dancing in my school, but these are real competitors that do this.
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They re world champions in Irish dancing.
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You ever seen Irish dancing?
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You know, like Riverdance?
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Of course, Riverdance.
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But in my head, I m saying that s going to be great for his fighting.
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Yeah, he s going to be delightful.
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But he doesn t want to fight.
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He said it to me many times.
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I don t like training.
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I don t want to fight.
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I say, Sean, you don t have to.
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But trust me, there ll come a time, if you have it in the back pocket, you re going to be confident.
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If there s four guys, you re not going to win.
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So start river dancing.
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Maybe you can win them over.
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That s my technique.
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It will definitely scare everyone.
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Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare.
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Okay, first of all, the movie s fucking rad.
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He s watched it, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, I watched it two days ago.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then I ll be tonight at the premiere and I m moderating your panel.
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Well, I ve not heard from many people, only one or two that have watched it outside of the cast.
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But I m biased, because one of my very favorite movies of all time is the original.
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I m interested to hear your thoughts then, because I was aware of that, you know, I knew that people were magnifying glass, that would be very critical of it.
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I think they re going to be happy.
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I don t think there ll be no issue with it.
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I think people will be actually delighted.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And it s another addition to the Roadhouse family.
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And it s an honor.
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I have a question for you, actually.
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Going in, you know people in it, you have ties and stuff like that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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When we talked last- I was interviewing him, and he just randomly goes, yeah, I was in a scene with Conor McGregor.
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And I go, what the fuck were you in a scene with Conor McGregor for?
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And he goes, oh, we re redoing Roadhouse.
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He was like, why the fuck are we talking right now?
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He literally was like, why am I talking right now?
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Why isn t Conor here?
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We re also just like, they re remaking one of my favorite movies of all time, and I fucking know it inside and out.
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What did you think about it with the new one and the old?
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I just wanted to ask you, because as a fan, it s very important to me, because you are a true fan of the OG, OG Roadhouse.
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We ve been in the middle of this conversation about, oh, what s it like to redo?
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And I m like, well, we didn t redo, we reimagined it, as everyone s saying.
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But then there s also mirrors of things that happen in it.
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Listen, let s just get to the spirit of it.
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We re going to tell a story that s the solution to everything is knocking someone out.
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It s so classic.
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It s the beyond everyone s hot the stakes of it are like I don t know this person was a builder is okay That s not the priority.
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Let s start breaking glass at the bar.
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Let s get some good music in Let s get some fucking motorcycles and let s swing and make out with chicks.
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I mean this
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He didn t really do that, though.
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He did a little bit.
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There was a little folk folk still going on with it.
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It could have been a little bit more.
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I would have thought.
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You may have said, well, we understand the times we re in.
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I taught that myself as well.
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There could have been a bit more.
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That me picking up the chick down the dance, that whole scene was on the floor.
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Once they cast Conor, we started to lose time.
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It s just, you know what I mean?
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But when we started talking about it 11 months ago, I was saying of the many things I liked about it, Patrick Swayze was a peak powers.
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What a man.
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He was so awesome.
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He was a gymnast.
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He was a firefighter.
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He was an outsiders.
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Yes.
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He was a football player.
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And what took him out of being a professional football player, or he played in college is he destroyed his knee and in dirty dancing, he has to jump off the stage.
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And if you watch the doc about it, he went over and over.
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And every time he landed, just collapsed like in so much fucking pain.
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This is what I love about you.
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Not only are you obsessed with Roadhouse, but you also love Dirty Dancing.
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Have you seen Outsiders?
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It s a gang movie.
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Francis Ford Coppola.
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It launched everybody.
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Tom Cruise.
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So he was the king when I was a kid.
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Swayze was everything.
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So, okay, he makes all the decisions in the movies he s making at that time.
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He makes Roadhouse and he gets out of bed naked.
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We watch him walk all the way over to the dresser and we re just seeing his ass cheeks.
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This is Swayze?
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Oh, this is me?
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No, no, Swayze, but you too.
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Swayze!
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I don t even know that you know that that was a nod to that.
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The most memorable thing is- Yeah, I wouldn t do it, so they asked you to do it.
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Swayze!
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You looked at your arsehole.
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I always thought it was something to do with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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I must have been telling people.
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No, no.
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Because Schwarzenegger came in that way.
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Terminator.
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Well, that s what I was telling myself.
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Look, Arnie done it.
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I d say the people are going to be shocked at that.
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Oh.
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Because no one knows really that that s going to be a bonanza.
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Oh, full reverse.
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So not only is he nude, and he walks to the thing, and he s in a medium shot.
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then they put a different lens on close up of his ass.
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He squeezes it.
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I was like a 12 year old going like, what s he doing?
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I think I like it.
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I said to Jay, when we talked about the movie 11 months ago, my first question was, are we going to see your ass cheeks?
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And he said, no,
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I m gonna argue that you actually topped it.
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Okay, so I m going into the movie hoping we re gonna see something that nods to this and then we meet Connor jumping out of a window.
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He s clearly with someone else s woman.
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He s bare naked.
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Ding, ding, ding.
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Back to the beginning of your history.
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It s a through line of his life and artistic work.
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Look at that.
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You ve really hit on something.
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So not only did we get the butt cheeks, but Connor, well fucking done.
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There ll be a 12-year-old that s having the same experience I had when I was 12.
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But you didn t clench, or you just are always clenched.
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No, I didn t.
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No, I didn t.
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No, I didn t.
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It s a classic Conor McGregor walk.
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I was just going to say.
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He does his walk, and then he doesn t.
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No, I wasn t even.
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I just happened to be doing it.
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It was.
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You can t be a champion without good glutes.
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That is true.
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You gotta be strong.
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It s the center of your being, right?
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Sure.
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Well, I ll tell you how, okay, now this is for you, Jake.
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Yeah.
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So I have once gotten in the shape you got in for this movie.
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You got an insane shape.
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Yes, congratulations.
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It s glorious.
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Thank you so much.
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You looked great.
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No, it s glorious.
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You always look great, by the way.
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What a fucking buffet of muscles.
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But what I know- Buffet of muscles is really good.
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What I know- That s the first time anyone s ever said that.
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Buffet of muscles is fantastic.
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That should be the like colon roadhouse colon buffet of muscles.
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I think that s good.
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All you can eat.
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Just me and Connor eating muscles.
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All you can eat.
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All you can eat buffet of muscles.
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Is there no camera?
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No, it s just audio.
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We want people to be comfortable, not worried about how they look.
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This show is fantastic.
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You re on a fantastic show.
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There s a lot of noise out there.
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Taxi drivers back there.
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There s so many of them.
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They re champs.
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Okay, back to your body.
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Know what you went through and I m gonna say cuz I did this for chips, right and I had a butt shot in it But once I cut to get ripped my ass cheeks disappeared now Here s the difference between an actor and a champion somehow he was cut like that and then as fuck
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ass cheeks were banging.
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That s the difference, right?
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You would have been bummed with your buns at that weight, yeah?
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Well, I stay pretty consistently in shape all the time, mental and physical health.
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That s important for me.
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I always stay, as we say, when I train about two to three weeks out.
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I like staying in that space.
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And if I have to do something more extreme for something, then I ll do that and then I ll change.
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Would you say, though, this was peak of your career?
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Yes, absolutely.
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We had a team, we had somebody cooking for me, the right calories, everything.
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We trained an hour and a half before work.
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But the truth is, on this movie, I had to stay in this weird space where you looked aesthetically in the right place, but you also had to function.
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That first headbutt we did, for instance, we did that 30, 40 times.
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And we did some of these fights like... The work was hard.
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Yeah.
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That surprised me when you were like, I come from a tough game.
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Jake has 16 projects on the go right now in motion.
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He cannot understand how he can have that much work on.
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He s like, oh, when I fight, I fight for 30 minutes.
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I got trained and I fight for 30 minutes.
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He s like, we have to do this a hundred times.
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14 hours, four days in a row to get one sequence.
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But yeah, you re right.
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The difference between obviously a professional athlete and me is that your glutes have to be ready to go all the time.
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You know, I knew my ass was going to be on the show.
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I put a couple more plates on the squat rack, you know?
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Searching YouTube, booty blast workouts.
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This is your sweet spot, though.
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We talked about this last time you were here.
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You love a regimen.
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I do love a regimen.
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And in fact, weren t we saying, like, maybe that s something you were trying to sort of taper back a little bit?
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Well, we talked, I had already made this movie, so.
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Oh great, I like that.
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He was recovering from this movie.
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Yeah, but at the same time too, you get to an age and you re like, I love what I ve learned from my body.
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I loved what it shows you and teaches you.
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Sometimes I ll be on a run and I ll be like, man, I don t know how long I ll be able to do this.
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I am grateful for this.
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Are you 43?
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43, yeah.
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43, yeah, you start realizing, well, if I don t do this now, probably I m not gonna be able to do it in five years or I m not gonna be able to do it in six years.
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Your brain shifts somehow.
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Your mortality becomes a reality.
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For real.
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And so to me, I was like, this is an amazing opportunity.
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At a certain point, I thought, this is fun.
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I have a team of people I know.
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We kind of gathered all together.
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And I ve never done that before.
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Every other movie I ve done, I ve eaten whatever I need to eat myself.
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I have had a trainer, I ve trained.
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And I thought, there s an opportunity here.
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Let s go full Marvel movie.
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Full, full, full force.
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Connor, your physique, how much of it is just from having done the sport you ve done?
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And how much do you actually lift and train?
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For that, I did no martial arts training.
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I just kind of bent to the martial arts.
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I put it to the side and I was just lifting heavy.
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You were lifting heavy as a motherfucker.
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I was doing that anyway because I had the leg injury.
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So I was lifting a lot.
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Let me tell Monica, his last fight, his tibia got snapped in half and it was visible in the fight.
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It was one of the grossest.
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It s a tough injury.
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It s probably the toughest in the game.
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Oh my God.
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I was just lifting heavy anyway.
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And then the call came and then I just lifted that extra bit heavier.
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And then I just tidied up the diet and while I rocked in, so chest and what weight were you in that every fighter I ll tell you this, I have a mad relationship with the scale from putting weight one 45, one 55, one 70.
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After the fight, I just tell Monica real quick,
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He s the only guy in UFC history that was holding two different belts at two different weight classes.
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So he s fighting at one weight one month, and then six months later, he s fighting a completely different weight.
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And so he ll have to cut 15 fucking pounds.
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Like sometimes even within a day.
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It s not a nice portion of the game.
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It should be monitored a bit better.
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Yeah, because they have to hit the weight at weigh in, 145, right?
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And then he ll start drinking water and come fight night just two days later, he might be 15 pounds heavier.
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I swear I ain t even, I m not even two days later.
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Those injuries come from some of that.
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We all have a relationship with the scale.
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I was in the Beverly Hills Hotel, because that s where I had a villet after the surgery, because I had the surgery in Los Angeles.
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So I m in an electric wheelchair, wheeling myself to the Beverly Hills gym, down to the Beverly Hills Hotel gym.
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And just getting onto a bench and lifting.
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That was all I was doing.
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My favorite thing is he s like, I wasn t in shape for this movie, I just lifted.
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There s a moment where I try and choke him out and I m on his back and he runs backwards and slams me into the back of the wall and then throws me on a table.
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I don t know what the fuck he s like when he s actually in shape.
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Insane.
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What weight would you have been that time?
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I m usually around 190, 200.
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I don t know what weight I was when, that s the truth.
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I decided I am not even looking at a fucking scales again and I haven t since that time I stepped on weight to make that weight for that last fight.
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I have not touched the scales once.
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Do you want to though?
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Do you not get curious?
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I don t care.
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I called and said the fight is going to be at 185 pounds against Chandler.
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Oh, it could be 171.
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Where do you sit then?
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Normally, like right now you think?
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I don t know, I don t know man, I haven t checked.
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Rob, get the scale out.
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Get the scale out of the belt.
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I d say a give or take.
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I feel like I m coming back down because I m doing more cardio basketball.
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I think you re coming back down, yeah.
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I m definitely coming back down.
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I m doing more martial arts work.
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In fact, I haven t been lifting at all really.
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I m doing more martial arts work.
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Getting the kicks snappy, getting the balance work ready.
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You know, I know what s ahead of me.
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So the body s getting naturally trimmer.
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I m probably about 180 maybe I d say.
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Give or take.
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But we have a fact check on this show, so we ll need you to go weigh yourself and send us in.
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I ll do it for you.
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It s coming soon.
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I m going to wait until the Paddy s festivities happen.
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But who knew that Michael Chandler, in the promo video for the UFC fight that I did that s also in the movie, Chandler came to the DR to be my opponent that I knock out.
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No way.
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I m sorry, Derek.
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Yeah, you were there.
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I had no idea.
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And then, forgive my ignorance, are you fighting him next?
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Well, I mean, that s what I m saying.
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You re coming back, right, to the UFC?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I have two fights left on my UFC contract.
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I m in a lovely position.
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I d love to renegotiate with the UFC.
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I d love to figure something out.
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I m the highest paid UFC fighter of all time, but even despite that, I m the most underpaid UFC fighter.
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Well, when you fought Mayweather, you made a hundred and some million.
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I m just saying, when you compare- The figures I bring in, I m the most underpaid fighter in history.
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So it s fine, I m rich as shit, I ve made hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars, I have businesses trending towards millionaire status, but
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What happens now, I have two fights left in the UFC, I go to the finish, become a free agent, then McGregor Promotions happens, then I can pick who I can fight, I can pick where.
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Do you like looking at young fighters and do you like thinking about that?
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Like what, to fight them?
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No, no, no, to manage them.
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More agency.
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Oh for sure, I have a management agency also.
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Paradigm Sports, we manage some great fighters, we have champions on the roster also.
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One of our guys is making his UFC debut tomorrow night, Michael Venom Page.
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I sponsor athletes, I sponsor promotions.
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By the way, you did do that when we were working, he d look at myself and he d be like,
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right just a little bit off like that way and then come back and then you re gonna grab me take me just higher bring your arms up higher you know he s always mentoring.
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Connor you can say that you would want to promote me you can say it yeah you can say it on the show and I think maybe both of us should be on Paradigm I feel like right yeah I m just gonna like river dance and then you can I m making so much money you can swim in it
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I just want to dance in it.
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I ll tell you what, I will make you fucking as much if not more than you make for a movie.
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And it s only 30 minutes, it ain t fucking 10 months.
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Oh, you mean in the ring?
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He s saying in the ring.
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In the ring, if he wants to get in the ring, I can make him fucking more money than he makes making a movie.
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I know, I watched the money that Jake Paul and these Paul brothers have generated, and I m like, I d fight Zach Brown.
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Can we set that up?
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I think you should start a whole series that is just actors fighting, and I want to be your fighter.
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I don t.
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But again, like I said, I will dance, I ll riverdance, and I ll do other things.
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You re dying to fight.
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Yeah, yeah, of course.
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I m a part of this thing called Train Alta.
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It s essentially regular people who have regular jobs and they dedicate, I think it s six months you have to do of their life, to training for a fight and then they fight in a show.
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It s Train Alta show.
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And it is hugely successful.
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It s growing at a rapid rate.
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We re going to the New York Stock Exchange shortly to announce it to the public market.
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And what it does also is it s boosted martial arts gyms around the world because they re taking on the program.
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People are signing up regular people and they re getting loads new members.
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Loads of people are like yourself.
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You could do that.
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You train and you learn together and then you match and then you fight.
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Don t you want to know if Monica s ever fought?
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I want to know if you ve ever fought.
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Oh, that s a good question.
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Nope.
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No, never.
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Have you ever wanted to?
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Well, actually that s not fair.
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I fight all the time with my words.
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Oh yeah, she fights me.
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I don t have a great record against her verbally.
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I m pretty good with, I won t finish that sentence, but yeah.
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So I ve never fought physically and I have a zero desire.
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So when you watch movies like, when you watch a movie like this.
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I don t mind seeing it.
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When Dax talks about fighting all the time in his fight stories, I definitely don t.
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She hates them.
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She finds it unattractive.
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I don t find it hot, I will say that.
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A professional sense is such a different thing, but like a bar fight doesn t do much for me.
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Yeah, nah, it s messy.
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They re not good.
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They re not good, 100%.
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It s just like, why guys?
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You want to go out and enjoy yourself.
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Well, no, do you want to get deeper psychological?
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Yeah.
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There s a real reason.
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So back when I was a drunk and I fought all the time at bars, there were girls that liked that, but those were girls like me who grew up in an environment that was scary and they want someone that s going to protect them because they got
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knocked around by dad or they got knocked around by an uncle.
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What s sad is you attract other people that are also hurt.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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It s not like my wife who s not maladjusted or grew up in a lot of violence.
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I beat a guy up on the sidewalk one day when we were driving to an event and she fucking hated it.
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I m like, that dude threw a fucking glass at our window, he could ve hurt you.
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And she s like, no, we were fine.
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You didn t need to do that.
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That was terrible.
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That s not my way to be, it s not nice.
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I m a happy drunk, by the way.
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I don t fight a lot, to be honest.
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The only way I ll ever really fight in a bar or out in an open space is if there s a threat right on me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But also I want to say there s also a reason I would never fight because everyone had their own scary environments.
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I didn t have any physical fear growing up, but I had a lot of like, I have to be accepted.
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So I was not ever going to be in a situation to fight because I would do anything to be liked.
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I m not going to be the person to fight.
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You can find safety in many ways.
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Exactly.
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And for me, safety was being liked by most people as possible.
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So fighting was not on the radar.
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Outside of the fight, to me, I love the physical part of the training, the training for it mentally also, and even sparring.
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It takes you to a different level because it does something in your nervous system, in your mind, in your body, all of it together is working.
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So outside of the fight itself, the training, I love it.
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It pushes you to a place, it fortifies you in other areas of your life.
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It gives you the opportunity to see how far you can push your mind and your body.
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And fight training is really the only space where you can do that in that particular way.
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It would be easy for you to get addicted to it.
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If you got a competition under your belt and you felt that experience and that rush, there s no adrenaline rush like it.
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Oh my god, you re going to join UFC.
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Yeah!
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Yeah, right.
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My explanation of fighting is I have never lost a fight because I ve only been fighting the fear in myself.
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So if I can not be afraid, I can t lose.
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I can get beat up.
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That s the truth for me.
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Everyone gets to decide, and it s great for everyone to make their own decision.
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But for me, only thing I m fighting is fear.
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So I can t lose.
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I don t care if I have my nose broken, it s crooked.
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I got missing... I always say, once you make that walk, you re a winner once you make that walk.
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Yes, because I only have to defeat the voice in my head that s afraid.
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Guys, guys, guys, guys, nobody ever wins a fight.
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I ve just been trying to, I just been trying to get it in there.
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I ve just every fucking second.
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I ve been trying.
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You re like, you won t even let me.
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That s all I wanted to say.
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That s a pro that s 70 press jump.
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That s what a pro does.
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When you throw that left hook, that s your thing.
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What he just did is his left hook.
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That s right.
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Okay, I do want to talk about the fight sequences are so fucking radical.
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Doug Liman, I wish he was here.
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What an incredible job.
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He s coming.
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Oh, he got over it.
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Well, I mean, I don t know.
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I hope he s got over it.
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He did an incredible job and he told me I found it hard to believe he hadn t even seen the original movie But regardless there s so much physical fighting and reenacting of fighting Did you get hurt a bunch and also is it hard for you to snap into movie version?
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I was definitely acting and playing a role, for sure.
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And as far as like, did I get hurt was as tough as I ve ever fucking experienced.
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Me and Jake were fighting on a little dinghy in the middle of the ocean, yeah?
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And I have this fucking anchor.
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And I swing the anchor and then the boat veers.
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I get thrown off.
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But not only that, when I land in the water, the camera was there so I had to... There s a thing online, it s a white Siberian tiger jumping into the sea or into a pool or something to grab a bit of meat.
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Did you ever see that?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It s a picture.
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On Instagram, yeah.
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I wanted to get that.
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when I got in the water, but that wasn t the finish of it.
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The boat was going, it s a speed boat and it s going fucking, it s tearing the fucking shoulder down me.
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I had shoulder surgery on the right shoulder about eight months ago.
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That really accentuated it because it was tearing the fucking shoulder down me socket.
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It s a damn tough business, especially a movie like that.
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Now I d imagine you re sitting on a rom-com type of thing, they re probably handy, I don t know, you d know Jake, but that one was fucking handy.
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Sometimes in those scenes, we re fighting on the floor, we re fighting around tables, we re fighting around glass, even if it s breakaway glass.
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You know, the car goes through the... You drive the truck into the... Into the, because not everyone... Oh, into the bar.
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Into the roadhouse.
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Into the roadhouse.
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Ding, ding, ding.
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I have to jump over the bar as the car crashes, but Doug wanted to do it in a very particular way because he didn t want it to look the way it usually looks, so I go over the bar.
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It s CGI d, that truck coming in, but we had to do the whole thing, the doors opening and all that shit.
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And so then I get up.
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I m supposed to have sort of been a little bit out of it.
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I put my hand on the bar.
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It was glass.
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Fucking straight glass.
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But the take I knew was good because we were cutting right before and they didn t cut.
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So I was like around the corner.
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I was like, we re not doing it again.
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I felt the glass go into my hand.
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So that s the part where I slammed the door in his leg.
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Yes, yes, yes, over and over again.
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So I have to just finish that off so he can get to that point.
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I remember the feeling went, that s a lot of glass.
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And I would just finish the fucking take.
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And I just finished the take and got to the thing.
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Stuff like that all the time.
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I mean, staff from grappling and all that, you get those types of injuries.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Did you get an infection?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The mats have to be clean.
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I thought it came from, remember that scene where you come with a piece of wood?
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Oh, you only got it after, did you?
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I kept grabbing it.
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I was on the ground and ground.
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grabbing you as you were at me, and I grabbed your arm.
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And I thought, oh, maybe I injured, but my whole arm swelled up.
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It ended up being staph.
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No shit.
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Wow.
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You got to watch for that staph.
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There were things like that that happen all the time, but gratefully, I was really, really trying to take care of everything that we did and my body while we were doing it.
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I didn t sustain any major injuries.
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You didn t break anything.
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He s a testament to the team I was working with.
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Yeah, who s the crew of stunt dudes?
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Gareth Warren.
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Gareth Warren is our stunt coordinator.
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Steve Brown s our fight coordinator.
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Has he been with Lyman forever?
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No, no.
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Garrett and Steve.
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This was Avatar.
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There s fight scenes in Avatar, isn t there?
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Yeah, there are.
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But they do a lot of water work, too.
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So actually, that was fun.
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I thought that was like a cartoon.
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But actually, they designed this like four pass system that we did for the movie.
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Garrett designed this thing where basically you do the Hollywood pass of the fight in a take, right?
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So you do the angles for the camera and then you do the next pass where there s a pad.
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So the pad then replaces Connor.
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So then I hit.
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Punch for real for real.
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So you see the impact on my body.
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Yes, then it switches and then it s the punches hitting Connor So then we take the pad and hit Connor with the pad.
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Yeah, so his body responds Then we do the last pass which is a slow-motion pass.
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It s like when your kids and your play fighting I ve never seen that in the movie.
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I ve never seen the connection like that in the movie.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So when I force the
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that were just big.
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I was trying to explain that forward pass thing in an interview.
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You just done it way better.
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I have a video of Chandler that we did because we were testing it out and I m just hammer fisting him.
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It s in the corner of the octagon for just a clip.
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And it s really funny working with real fighters because like with him, you asked before, and I think it s really interesting.
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He didn t know how to fake fight.
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You get to learn how to fake fight.
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And the same thing with Chandler.
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I m fake hitting Chandler and he s resisting as you would.
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He s keeping his neck stiff enough so that he don t knock him out.
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And we re like, you need to play like
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You re getting hit.
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And so to unlearn that for a fighter is like telling you to go against all your instincts, right?
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I ll say something and people can look out for it in the movie.
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In a scene where you jump on the back and you re on the choke and I smack you on the table and I m trying to get out of it, right?
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Yeah.
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You re actually choking me, right?
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No shit, you told me, mate.
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And his foot, you know you put your hooks in, it s called you put your hooks in so you have full control of the person.
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I was trying to turn into you.
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As I was getting choked and the hook was there stuck so I couldn t, I was like this.
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I had to let go.
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Get the hook out and then turn.
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That s as real as it gets, yes.
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He told me to do it like that.
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So he was like, you want to really get me?
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Just do it like this and wrap your legs around me.
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And I was like, okay, sure.
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And then I do and he s like, what the fuck are you doing?
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I got out.
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He was escaping, yeah.
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If I were you, I d be living the whole time in fear of like, when am I going to accidentally trigger his real response?
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Because something happens at some point.
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It s not an emotional response.
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It s a fighter s response.
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And so to me, that s the thing that I had to understand.
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And there were a number of times I remember having to say to you before we start the scene, I d be like, remember, you don t have to actually hit me.
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And he would say, he would literally go,
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Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
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I remember.
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Thanks for the reminder.
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Yeah, because I think in those moments, the instant comes in.
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Remember that first thing we did?
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We did four, five combination and then you come off camera and then you roundhouse me, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I was supposed to block you.
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But early on, he was so psyched to do the scene.
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It was like his first day shooting me.
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Too excited.
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He just came running off camera and just roundhouse kicked me every time.
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I remember I said to you- That was my fear for you when I was watching.
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Like, does he know how to pull?
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But this is the thing with him on set.
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He was so great.
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I turned to you and I said, you know, we re not on camera.
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And he was like so in the character.
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Yeah.
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Because I didn t really know where the cameras were at that time.
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Sure, sure.
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I didn t know.
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Yeah, it s hard to know.
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It was actually my very first take that I d done.
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I was in the water.
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You weren t there at this time.
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I came up out of sea after the boat crash.
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I had to swim to the fucking ladder.
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It was a wide shot or a long shot.
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I don t know what he s calling it in the industry, but it was nowhere near me.
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Yeah, you didn t need to do any of this.
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So I m under the water, letting myself drown.
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I m saying I m coming out of this water like a torpedo.
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I just want that full body.
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I m thinking this is gonna look so great in the movie.
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I don t like I came out of water like a fucking torpedo and then okay guys now we re switching cameras It was actually time to do it I was like
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It s a hard lesson to learn.
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It s kind of like, when does Siegfried and Roy s tiger decide to bite?
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It s like that, right?
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Where it s like, trained and it s fine, and then all of a sudden, they re a tiger, really.
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Yeah, like you catch him on accident on the button, and all of a sudden there s a real snap.
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Only once, and by mistake.
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We looked at the shot, and he was like, oh, there s this, and I could throw that right a little bit tighter, and if I throw that right a little bit tighter, and then you hopped me, and you went, oh!
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I didn t mean to.
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You took it well.
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That s minimal though for that much fighting in a movie.
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What I realized is really we
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We re at different ends of the spectrum in that sense, and the pacing of yourself in shots, understanding where the camera is, all the techniques of making a movie.
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It s a marathon, not a sprint.
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Exactly.
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All that stuff that any professional athlete would tell anybody who s just an amateur in the same game, he would do the opposite when we were in fights.
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You know, when we were in fights, it was always that, you don t have to do that because you bring this leg up and you do it like that.
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And then he ll look back and he ll say, that left was a little weak.
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Maybe that straight needs
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Yeah, just a little bit stronger, just a little bit of torque of the body, a little bit of torso work, a little hip.
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Jake knows how to throw a backhand, knows how to throw a jab.
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The work he would have done with cell partners, regular training.
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But as it went on, in a flurry of combinations, one of them might have been a little bit off.
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I dialed a few little things and just made it come across way more venomous, way more realistic.
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We had a great balance together and a great chemistry and it shows in the movie.
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So listen, when a professional athlete joins a movie,
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It s happened a bunch of times, we have a lot of examples of it.
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You re always like, how s this gonna go?
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And I want to tell you, you re fantastic.
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Thank you so much.
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You re so good.
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Thank you, appreciate that.
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If you want to do it more and more, you will do it more and more.
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You re really, really confident, and you re not self-conscious, and you re entertaining as hell.
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I mean, the movie goes like this, doesn t it?
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He comes in and he goes...
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How is it fitting into, and I wonder how calculated the overall thing.
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So it s like, you ve got beer, you ve got the whiskey, you ve got nightclubs, you ve got fighting, you ve got clothes, acting.
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How does this play into the overall thing?
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I m a creator.
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I create in entertainment.
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So this would lend itself well to, and you know, let s see how it goes.
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It s a huge pay decrease for you to spend your time.
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You love movies.
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I love movies.
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I enjoy the process.
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I m enjoying this process.
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Who knows?
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What I will say is, with confidence, my life is so far removed from regular life.
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You know, as you say, it s like being an animal in the zoo.
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I feel like I m so far detached as it is, I could play any role and that helps me.
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Yeah.
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Let s see.
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Okay.
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So you reminded me of the first movie I ever did was without a paddle and I didn t know anything.
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I didn t know how cameras worked and no, this was a stain on the same spot or that they did a wide and then we had to do it again.
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I didn t know anything.
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And I was like, you, I m trying to be the best at it.
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And Burt Reynolds is in the movie.
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Thank God.
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And he pulled me aside a couple of times.
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He s like, I know you want to do this stunt.
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They re not going to see you.
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You re gonna break your arm.
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I broke my back in this movie.
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No one could see me.
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You know, he was like helping me along.
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But then he also told me this great fucking story.
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He was friends with Rocky Marciano.
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They were bros.
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And he said one time they were sitting at a bar and they were hammered.
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Rocky is seated and Bert gets up to go to the bathroom and he looks at Rocky and he thinks, I think if I just swung right now while he s sitting, I think I could knock him out.
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And he said, as he was thinking it, Rocky turned and he said,
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Bert, don t do this.
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And he goes, you know what I was thinking?
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He goes, everyone around me will have that thought.
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Don t think that.
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And it made me think of you.
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And I was like, do you have this sense that guys are just like, shit, is this the moment I can trust?
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Like, do you live with that little bit?
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Eh, fuck it, you know, I just left her now.
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But do you experience that at all?
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Whether you re a fighter or not, alcohol can make people like that, you know?
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So it doesn t necessarily mean it s because I m a fighter, you know, people want to take a shot.
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That s the way people are.
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But here s the irony.
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The irony is you get good at this so you can feel safe.
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You want everyone to know, like, move to someone else.
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It was an easier target.
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It was almost to get left alone.
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Yes.
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So it kind of backfired a bit now, because now I get left alone.
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Yes.
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I do have that at times, yes.
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Yes.
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And I ve done this so people would leave me the fuck alone.
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Now I can t fucking go anywhere.
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The irony of, you know what, I m going to make it so clear that you re better off fucking with another person.
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And then yet that in itself makes these random people feel like, well, I d be a legend for life if I could knock this stranger out.
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You kind of invite more.
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Who would want to do that with you?
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A million dudes I know from Michigan.
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They would risk their life to have a story where they punched him out.
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They would risk their life for it.
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They are risking their life for it.
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Especially because they rock around with motherfuckers armed.
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I m not playing over here in the United States of America.
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I rocked around with the logs to the shop.
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Don t give a fuck.
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Don t mess in this country.
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You know what I mean?
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So that s it.
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Harlem, probably not far off either.
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Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert.
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Guys, the movie kicks so much ass.
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It has so much of the original DNA, which, of course, I m a huge, huge fan of.
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Connor, you must feel flattered that not only was the first reverse nude scene so wonderful... You keep saying reverse nude like there s a front view.
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My Irish compatriot, Bartie Cowan, was butt naked in one of his recent movies.
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Frontal as well.
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Oh, I love him.
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Yeah, he s a great guy.
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I ve known him well.
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I ve known him for many years.
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Do you?
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Yeah, I know Bartie, yeah.
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He s had a crazy story, right?
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He s had trouble doing alright, but he s doing very well.
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He s a great actor, Bartie.
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Yeah, he s a great actor.
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But he done a bit of Frontal.
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I mean, I don t give a fuck.
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Talk to me.
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But I gotta say, the ultimate compliment is they were like, you know what, that was so good, let s fucking end this movie with another shot.
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That s how you know you ve scored in a movie, when they decide to put you in the back frame of the movie.
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Yeah, that is crazy.
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I didn t think of it like that.
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I was just happy not to be wiped out, and maybe there s an opportunity.
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Well, as we educate you on this, let me just tell you, when they decide to go back to you with the titles... That means you ve done good.
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That means you popped.
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That s great ideas, yeah.
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That s so good.
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Alright, well boys, what is next?
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Do you think now that you like it enough, you ll try to do it again?
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Well, we ve had no discussions about it.
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You know, it s all still in the air.
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I m sure an offer will come and I m interested to see what it is.
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Will we be bros?
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Will we have a task?
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That s what you guys need to do, the Rocky Apollo.
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I m so interested.
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Because there s some incredible writers out there that can really make magic.
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And if there s a man that can make magic and two men, it s myself and Jake.
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So we ll be excited to do something like that.
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I got to add one other thing I forgot to say is the gift you gave the writers, which is normally they would have had to spend 15 minutes on your character to establish why you would be a threat to a guy who was seemingly undefeated in the UFC and killed somebody.
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We don t really know why you re as tough as you are other than it s Connor fucking McGregor.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It s so meta.
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I mean, that s the thing about the movie that s so great.
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Meaning, it just exists outside of the actual storyline and inside the storyline.
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That s also what makes the movie so fun is like, you can t remake the OG original.
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Well, this is where this movie s superior to the original, is that the bad guy in the original, it s not you.
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Patrick brings that movie home, but we don t have a comparable or equal as an adversary.
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Yes.
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And in this, we do.
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We fall in love with you.
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You don t want to be doing this.
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And then he starts going crazy.
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He s suicidal.
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There s all these things about him.
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sinister.
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His turn when he starts going crazy and putting the thing in the back of the head, that happens at the drop of a hat.
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Me and him are fighting, right?
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And I m beating him bad.
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And at one stage I look at him like, what the fuck is up with this guy?
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There s something wrong with this guy.
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He s a psycho.
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I looked at him like that.
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Just not even part of the story unbeknownst.
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And then Doug Liman jumps in, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
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That s it.
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And then the whole thing shifts.
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And then he becomes a bit evil.
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And then I almost become the likable guy.
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And it s just a weird fucking dynamic.
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I was shocked that could happen in the making of a movie.
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But stuff like that happens on
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Doug s movies all the time.
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Even with Steven and Garrett, that first slap fight was just a punch fight.
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They wanted to be kind of funny and I was like, oh, it s cool, but what if I just slapped the shit out of all them?
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And they were like, yes, we re going to redo that.
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And so they just really re-choreographed the whole thing for slap fight.
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By the way, you re telling so much about your character in that moment.
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To choose slapping, it s like, you don t want to do this.
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You re not a bravado tough guy trying to dominate people.
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You have integrity.
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The difference between you punching them and slapping them in that scene establishes that your character has integrity.
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Yeah, it s so good.
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Yeah, it s so subtle and it can just be discovered and it s so powerful.
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But the writers had their couple columns of scenes that were always there that worked so well.
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But then there was always room for play.
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Even in the fighting, there was always room for play.
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So we were re-choreographing moments in the moment.
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We d have a shape of the fight, and then we knew Doug wanted to shoot things in longer takes than just like cutting for angles.
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Yeah, cheating.
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And then we would do stuff, and it wouldn t work, and then we d recalibrate, and then he would come up with an idea.
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We d look back, oh, that looks better if I come over here.
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Why don t I just throw a kick instead of a punch?
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And why don t I give you an elbow, and then I ll grab you?
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And then we d just do it.
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So for me, I m not the best with remembering choreography when I d got to do it like an improv, or someone told me,
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Say the line like this, go now.
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It was the same thing with the fights.
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So the fights have that spirit.
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Yeah.
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We did that one take and it worked.
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Okay, cool.
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We did that.
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It wasn t exactly how we choreographed it.
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Let s move on.
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Let s go to the next section.
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We did that the whole time.
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Just made it so much more enjoyable.
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Sometimes you would hit a wall with the cardio and you were like, right, I m done.
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And I d be fucking exhausted also, so when he done that and he s the head, I was like, yes, thanks.
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Because a lot of these fights happen at night, they happen at night.
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And so we were shooting over a long period.
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4am, I d be like, guys, it s going to be dangerous.
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Where are you?
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You need to be back now for the day shoot.
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He was like, 10 hours.
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I work in January and then I work in July.
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That s exactly what he said.
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He s like, I m coming back tomorrow.
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We re not finished.
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I bought last night.
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I ll see you in six months or another.
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It s so true.
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You said that to me.
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How long was the shoot?
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It was between two and three months.
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Oh, he was only supposed to be there for four weeks.
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I was there for about 10 weeks all in.
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So he doubled me out.
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I actually shaved my beard because I was like, all right, we done.
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It was wrapped.
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We had the fucking wrap happy days.
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And then I shaved the beard and then I started getting phone calls.
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I ll come back.
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We do one more thing.
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Sorry.
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As you might have spoken for the story, I m at the shave and the beard.
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Well, you guys crushed it.
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How nice is it to be out promoting something where you actually can be friends?
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100%.
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You can go back and forth, right?
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Oh, yeah.
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You don t need unsolicited advice, but I m going to give it to you.
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I think you re a very special person.
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Thank you so much.
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I m 13 years further down the road than you, and you have the most special opportunity, which is, like, you ve been building, building, building, and you re going to continue to build.
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And at some point, you ll have built all the shit,
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And I think you ll find the joy in giving it away to people.
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Not the things, but helping the other people get to build their shit.
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And you have the most incredible opportunity because every boy loves you.
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You are the most masculine human being on planet Earth.
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And if you choose to bring in the 12-year-old sometimes, you give permission to all those boys to bring in their 12-year-old.
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And I hope you do that because you have the power.
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You re so powerful.
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Appreciate it, man.
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Thank you so much.
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What would you say?
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Would you say keep going in this industry, in this business?
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The more you are able to be honest about the vulnerabilities and fears you ve had and the things that scare you and the humanness you have, I think it allows another boy to go,
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Yeah, me too, man.
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I m fucking afraid, and I m afraid of this, and I m not allowed to even say it, or I m a pussy.
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So, you re on this incredible ride.
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You re really special, and I think the more you choose to bring that in, that s a gift you could give.
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You have the ear of so many boys that no one has.
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And they re little.
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And what you would tell your son, feel free to share that out loud everywhere you go, because it s really powerful.
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Thank you so much.
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I appreciate that, man.
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It s been such a pleasure, man.
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I didn t think I d ever get to sit down and talk to you.
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This is so fun.
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The two of you are obviously just great human beings, and what you bring out in people in your show is so special.
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And I just love what you said, and what you re doing every day is good stuff.
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Thank you.
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Like, really, it s really good stuff.
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Right back at you.
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Thank you.
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Real Recognize Real.
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I like the hard work.
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So attractive.
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Everyone here is so hot.
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Let s just say it.
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Let s just end on that.
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This is a fucking smoke show.
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They are bringing the fire extinguishers in a minute.
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I love you guys.
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Good luck with Roadhouse.
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It s spectacular.
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It comes out March 21st on Amazon.
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I know everyone s a little bummed by that.
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I m excited.
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I think the most amount of people will see it.
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I want everyone to see it.
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You think it s better for streamer?
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I think more people will see it.
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So it s like, again, isn t it really?
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If you re in a position where you re trying to build some career and want box office data to demonstrate how much you should get paid, sure, I would want that for you.
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But if you re an artist and you want the most amount of people to have a blast on a Friday night and watch this, this is it.
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Yeah, deadly, love it.
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I agree.
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You know, when you think about it as a kid, I think about when I watched certain things on VHS.
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Oh, fuck yeah.
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Some of the things that I loved the most that lasted, I mean, the truth is- I didn t see Roadhouse in the movie theater.
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No, I saw Point Break on VHS.
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You feel like you own it.
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You have like ownership over it.
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A P.S.
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And I think it doesn t take away from that experience of going to cinema because tonight when we go... No.
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I m very glad I get to do both.
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Yeah.
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I can t wait to be in a room with those people watching this movie on a big screen.
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It s gonna be a party.
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Let s go party, son.
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Yeah.
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Let s go party.
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I hope you pace yourself.
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It s a little early.
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Let s get you an eight ball so that you re awake for the... Started and ended on coke.
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I love it.
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All right.
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Good luck.
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This was awesome.
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Stay tuned for the fact check so you can hear all the facts that were wrong.
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Ready almost?
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I have a few more chews left.
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Just a couple more bites.
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These bars are very chewy.
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Yeah, they are.
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Which I like.
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You know how I feel about too chewy.
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Caramel.
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Not for me.
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Ding, ding, ding.
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You have caramel pants on.
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Yeah.
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I was going to fight that, but you re right.
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You have caramel skin.
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That ll fight.
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Why?
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It s not the appropriate color.
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Not that yellow?
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Yeah.
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That s fair.
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What would you prefer?
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It s brown skin.
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Brown skin.
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My skin is brown.
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Brown skin, I m talking about your brown skin.
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I don t know where your stops and where mine begins.
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What s that?
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It s a beautiful song.
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I feel very excluded about it, because it s two brown-skinned lovers, and they don t know where one starts and the other ends.
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And you would know, if you were brown-skinned and you were with me, it would be Stark.
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Like, ew, gross.
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Yeah, you re not a part of that song.
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Jesus, turn the lights down in here.
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India Arie?
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Yeah.
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Oh, India Arie.
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Go ahead and hit us with a little bit of that.
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There s also a brown-skinned girl.
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Leon Bridges?
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Leon Bridges song.
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That is good.
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Very good.
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That I like, that I think of myself.
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And there s brown sugar.
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Ooh, sexy.
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Oh, nice.
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Okay.
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Fuck.
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Great.
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Ding ding ding.
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I virtually had the lyric.
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It s probably been 15 years.
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You did good.
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I ll give it to you.
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I mean not in its rendition, but the lyrics were.
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Yeah.
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Ding ding ding, India, Ari.
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Oh wow.
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India, the country.
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Today we released Bill Gates  episode.
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It s actually not ding ding ding because that s not what this is for.
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We re not redoing the fact check for an episode that came out this morning.
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But I m thinking about it.
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Me too, because we got to post our little videos about it.
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And do you know what Bill posted?
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No.
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Do you want me to read it?
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Yes, I m scared.
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You should be so scared.
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Really scary.
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It s always great to join at Dak Shepherd and at ML Padman for an episode of at Armchair Expert Pod.
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They re two of my favorite people.
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Oh man.
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Now I posted that and I put an arrow to that line.
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Okay, great.
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And I said, you said it, no take backs.
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You re good at this thing.
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Life.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah, well, life, but social media and emails, what you wrote to the best boy, classic.
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I call that writing.
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Yeah.
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You re good at it, too.
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I have an arena in which I m good at it.
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I don t know how great I am at it, like on Instagram or stuff.
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Like, I can write prose and screenplays.
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Don t you feel, I guess we re gonna brag,
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Today s a good episode to brag.
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Why?
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Because this is for Jake and Connor.
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Oh, right, and he is- And Connor s all about- He s made a career out of self-promotion.
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That s right.
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Yeah.
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And he is, he promotes self-promotion.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He talks about that and it s important.
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It s weird, well, it does fall into the thing I have said in the past, which is there s certain people when they re ostentatious, I don t like it, and there s certain people I really root for them when they re ostentatious.
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Conor McGregor is from fucking Dublin 12.
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If he s out there showing off.
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You made it happen.
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I like it.
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I can stomach it.
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As opposed to the child of a billionaire doing it.
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Sure.
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It s a little different.
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Ding, ding, ding, bill.
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India, India arena, brown skin.
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Okay, bragging, writing.
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I think writing is the only, now I m gonna say it and it s gonna backfire so bad.
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But I think for me personally, writing is the only place, it s the only arena that I feel confident.
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I m never gonna write something
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Bad.
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Sure, yeah.
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I might write something just fine, or it ll be okay, but I don t ever worry that what I m putting out there and writing is bad.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can relate to that.
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Do you feel like that?
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I thought you were gonna go way further.
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That s fine, that s not too braggy.
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Well, it s a little braggy.
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It s braggy, but I can t say that about any other arena in my entire life.
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It s just that, I know that about myself.
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Yeah, I would agree.
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Like, I can do some bad acting.
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I tell jokes that don t work.
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I, you know, fucking crashed my charger a couple years ago.
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Sometimes I wear bad outfits.
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Sometimes, you know, it happens.
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Yeah, in the morning I have bad breath.
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Let s not talk about it.
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I think it s good to, good.
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I sound like Aaron s uncle.
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You sound like Christopher Walken.
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No.
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I m not seven, and I sure as hell ain t four.
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I m 74 years old, motherfucker.
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Wow.
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It s a really interesting accent.
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It s almost Cajun, it s almost Southern, it s almost Native American.
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There s a lot going on.
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Yeah, and he s a white gentleman with very long hair.
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He looks like a biker.
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Yeah.
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I think it was six, though.
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I m not six, and I sure as hell ain t four.
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I m 64 years old.
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He is not to be confused with the person on the Ted Seegers.
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Cam, that s Aaron s dad.
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Yeah, but his brother.
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Aaron s dad s brother is this guy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Also, Ted Seegers is in Los Angeles.
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It s here in LA, yes.
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Very exciting.
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Yes, at Boyson, is that how I pronounce it?
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And I didn t know that until Laura posted it, which like, I should have known that.
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And I ve been to that store.
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You have?
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Yeah, in the Valley.
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It s a good store.
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It s all NA, yeah.
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I bought wine there, not for me.
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Yeah, of course not.
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But it s a beautiful store.
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Yeah, yeah, I was, I m like overly thrilled by it.
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If you live in LA, you could walk in there and buy a six pack of Ted Seeger.
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It s really cool.
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I mean, you should definitely go.
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Okay.
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And like, you know.
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Take a picture?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, I should.
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We ve had a very busy week.
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We have.
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Yeah.
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But it s no excuse.
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It s not an excuse and it s a failing.
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It s a failing on my end.
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And talk about some writing I m proud of.
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Yeah, Ted Seegers.
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That weirdly is my favorite thing to write on.
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It happens all the time, like we ll have to write a deck, we ll have to write a pitch to a bar, you know, I have to write some posters to celebrate St.
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Patrick s Day.
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Yeah, fun.
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They tell you what that one is?
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No.
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Make sure you don t wake up next to a leprechaun, Ted Seegers.
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Oh, that s fun, that s so funny, I love it, great.
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I like the image of waking up next to a leprechaun.
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Oh my god, so tiny.
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They re tiny, right?
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Yeah, they re real miniature.
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They re at the ends of the rainbow there with the pot of gold.
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They re rich.
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Maybe you should wake up next to a leprechaun because they re rich.
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It s just like interspecies breeding s bad.
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Yeah, sure, that should be avoided.
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Unless it s a male, no, yes, a female human and a male dolphin.
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That s the only one we ve approved.
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I have not approved that.
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The woman wants to have a relationship with a male dolphin.
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It s still not okay.
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And the male dolphin is not a victim.
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Women can take advantage too.
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I m not gonna sign on.
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Of a male dolphin?
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Yes.
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They d fuck a pile of wood hoping there was a snake in there.
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SPEAKER_02
No, dolphins are almost like humans.
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Yeah, they re perverts, like humans.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, humans without any of the societal pressure to not be perverts.
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Yeah, they re gross.
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They re so cute, and then they re not.
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They re not really cute, that s what s weird.
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Well, they re very cute.
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Okay, we place them in the category of cute animals.
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Flipper.
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That s probably why.
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Yeah, I guess.
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It s just like when you really try to remove yourself from your programming about cute animals.
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Yeah.
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They re not.
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Objectively look at them.
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Well, no.
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Dolphins look like they re smiling.
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The corners of their mouths kind of tilt up like they re smiling.
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SPEAKER_02
They re smiling because they re sickos.
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No, because they just blasted some human.
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Exactly.
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Some happy human.
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Do smiling dolphin.
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They re crazy cute.
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But it s so hard to know what s what these days.
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But remember there was the fucking video of the ones in a river in South America
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and the dolphin was on its back.
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Do you remember this, Rob?
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I don t think so.
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I think he was fucking a dead anaconda or something.
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I think I remember this.
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You remember this?
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Yeah, we talked about it on here.
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Yes, it was so extreme, the horniness of it.
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It was like trying to pump on an anaconda and its dong was hanging out and stuff.
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It was at full attention.
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I just think there s absolutely no way you can look at this.
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That little puppy, cute little Dalmatian.
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And then think it s the same category as a puppy.
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It s a dolphin?
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Dolphin.
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I think dolphins are very cute.
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Does it bother you?
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SPEAKER_02
This is a statue, this cute thing.
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It did not look like a real dog to me.
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SPEAKER_01
I was like, that s either AI or a product, and it was the latter.
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Does it bother you when animals have those pink penises?
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SPEAKER_01
Yes.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, why is that?
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SPEAKER_01
It s like their insides are out or something.
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SPEAKER_02
Well, you mean the red rocket?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, the dog s penis is very troubling.
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SPEAKER_01
Yes.
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SPEAKER_01
And then the dolphin penis is so troubling.
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It s like pink and human skin.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
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It s because they don t have control over it.
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It feels dangerous.
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It feels like the insides of their bodies are pouring out.
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I want their penises to be that nice silver gray color that the rest of their body is.
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SPEAKER_02
That d be preferred.
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SPEAKER_02
Our insides are different colors.
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They are, but a horse dick is very consistent with their belly skin.
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SPEAKER_01
Like a horse dick s still dark as hell.
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SPEAKER_02
But is that because there s hair all over it?
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SPEAKER_01
No, it s the skin itself is dark.
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SPEAKER_01
It s not like bright pink.
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SPEAKER_02
Well, what about white horses?
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Type in white horse.
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No.
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Yeah, that s why I think the law will come at you You re allowed to look at animal penises.
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I don t think I want to see that you do.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, it s not pain Stop you re being a red rug.
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SPEAKER_00
It looks like your skin.
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SPEAKER_00
It was like peeled off.
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So just imagine your penis with its skin off Yes, it looks internal.
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It s like I m looking inside the body.
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Oh
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It s dark, it s dark.
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The white horse penis.
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SPEAKER_01
He s got a big dark penis.
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SPEAKER_02
So it s not the same color.
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SPEAKER_01
They have such enormous penises.
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SPEAKER_02
Ew, look at the, ew.
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SPEAKER_02
Actually, it s kind of pink again.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, see, it s pink.
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SPEAKER_02
They re all, ew, this one.
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I have a lot of memories of it.
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This one I like.
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This is very pink.
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SPEAKER_02
Is this another statue?
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SPEAKER_02
No, that s real.
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SPEAKER_01
What if it s a statue of a horse with his penis?
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SPEAKER_02
Okay, a lot of animals have pink dicks.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, it s weird.
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SPEAKER_01
I want it to match the rest of their skin color.
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SPEAKER_02
But a lot of, I mean, I think, don t white men s penises
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SPEAKER_02
air on pinkish, like they could be pink?
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SPEAKER_01
No, my penis is completely consistent with my normal skin color and it gets darker where the foreskin used to be.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, mine too.
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SPEAKER_00
But I ve heard of people having mis-colored penises.
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You have?
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Yeah.
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In your travels?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Bobby Lee famously talks about his being like purple.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, really?
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, I ve seen a pink one.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh.
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SPEAKER_02
I ve seen a pink one.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, really?
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
Like, pink like a dog s?
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SPEAKER_01
That s right, I guess.
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SPEAKER_02
Kind of like brightish pink.
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Oh my goodness.
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SPEAKER_02
It s kind of cool.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, rare.
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SPEAKER_01
Limited dish.
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SPEAKER_02
Let s clean it up.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
Sorry, guys.
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SPEAKER_02
Sorry.
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Although, if you made it through this episode.
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Sorry, not sorry.
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SPEAKER_01
It s the right episode for this.
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SPEAKER_02
You re right.
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But I m sorry, Bill.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, but this isn t his episode.
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SPEAKER_02
You know, but we were talking about it.
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Oh, but there was something that came up.
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during the dolphin debate of 2024, which was my daughter went on a field trip to the L.A.
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Zoo.
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Oh, because I know, because I was saying, why do we think they re cute?
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I think largely because of media.
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So Flipper was a very popular show.
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And so she went to the L.A.
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Zoo, and they were tasked with kind of writing down pros and cons of the experience of the animals, I guess, whether it was a good or bad thing, or if it s ethical, which is great.
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SPEAKER_01
Let s have the debate.
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Yeah, and of course, my knee jerk is to get nervous that everything s so lefty.
8
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, you are very nervous about that.
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I am.
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I mean, look, they go to a very, very liberal school, which is which I like, but.
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What I was nervous about is just that, like, zoos would be bad, because, like, everything s bad and needs to stop.
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SPEAKER_01
And so I was trying to explain to her the history of the orca, the killer whale, which was like, there was no hunting regulations on killer whales.
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There was no protection, you know, governmental or otherwise, until SeaWorld.
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SeaWorld, which is, you know, Blackfish, if you ve seen that, of course, I m not arguing it s not terrible for the orca that s at SeaWorld, but also what is undeniable is that Shamu changed the image of the orca.
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Prior to that, there was no appetite to get any regulations to protect these animals, and then America fell in love with Shamu, and then we get all this legislation to prevent them from being hunted.
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So, you know, it s just very utilitarian argument.
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It s like, yeah, it s not great to keep not even it s not great.
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It s bad to keep an orca in a swimming pool.
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It s terrible.
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Yeah, it s terrible.
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But if the orca suffering in the swimming pool saved all orcas, that s a compelling.
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But no, because then I wanna go see Shamu and I wanna go to more water parks like this that have captive animals and when there s a business around it, it s gonna make more and more capture.
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But what I m saying is without Shamu, they would have been still the killer whale.
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We would have not fallen in love with them and seen that they re cute and smart.
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So there would have been no legislation.
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They probably would have been hunted to extinction.
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So like Shamu saved, I think most people would agree with this even in the zoological world.
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Shamu saved the orca.
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So that s a relevant part of the whole thing.
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And so what s weird is like a zoo, clearly not how an elephant should be living.
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Elephants are supposed to walk hundreds of miles a day.
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It s a migratory animal.
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It s heartbreaking that they would be in there.
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But if people don t see those animals, they also tend to not care and they don t vote for legislation and they don t
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donate money and try to save animals.
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So it s weird that there might be a sacrificial lot that is ultimately better for the whole population.
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Minimally, it s a complicated situation.
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It s not just, is it good or bad to have zoos?
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It s like, you need the will of the people to protect them, and you need them to have experienced them and know they re real and care about them.
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So it s complicated.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I guess you could argue though, like if I was listening to me right now, this is the argument I would mount.
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That is probably true up until the, even into the 60s and 70s.
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But now you have Animal Planet and nature shows.
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So kids do see and fall in love with animals.
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We don t necessarily need them in the zoo.
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I don t think there should be any more zoos, no.
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Well, here s another thing.
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You could also make a democratizing argument, which is like 99% of Americans, 99.9% are never going to have the resources to see any of these majestic animals in their real life.
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Like for the kid from the inner city, they re not gonna go and see any of these animals.
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If they don t get to see them at the zoo, they ll never be able to see that kind of animal.
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But that s okay.
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Yeah, and that s actually, to me, the problem.
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It s like, this is an opportunity for people to see them.
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It s just gonna spur on more and more business around it, which is gonna cause more and more of these animals that should not be in these environments to be in these environments.
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that s a problem to make a business out of like, oh.
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Let s just be clear, if it were super profitable to start up zoos, yeah, I think that would be an issue, but all these zoos are municipalities.
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SeaWorld?
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Not SeaWorld, not SeaWorld.
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But I m saying.
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The LA Zoo, the San Diego Zoo, these are all city owned, and they lose money, and they re there to let children get to see these animals.
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Yeah, I don t think it s a right.
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I don t think it s a human right to get to be able to see those animals.
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I don t think it s a right.
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I don t think it s more important for a human to be able to see it than, I m not even an animal person, but I don t think it s more imperative for a human to be able to see an animal than for that animal to be able to exist in its environment.
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Yeah.
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So Jake, we said he has been in 75 movies, according to his IMDb.
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Seven.
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Seven plus five, 12.
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12?
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No, no, of course not.
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Well, you never know.
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There s some actors that have been in like a really shockingly slim number of movies.
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As an actor, it says 61.
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Okay.
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Now, do you know staph infection is spelled S-T-A-P-H?
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I just learned it.
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Hmm.
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Well, I,
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I know, I don t know that.
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I don t know that.
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New information.
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Yeah.
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S-T-A-P-H.
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Staphany.
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It s short for Staphany.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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A name that used to be popular.
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Before staph infection.
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That s right.
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Yeah.
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That s why we haven t heard of it in a long time.
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Yeah.
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Staph infections are caused by staphylococcus bacteria.
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Oh, very common in hospitals, right?
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Yeah, and very common on the wrestling mat, which we use wrestling mats for cheerleading.
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Right.
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And so we were always like, had to be really careful about staff infection.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Oh, wow.
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Because the wrestlers like had it and it was gross.
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Gross wrestlers.
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So we had to wipe, you know, we had to wipe.
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How do you know you guys weren t tainting those mats?
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We didn t have it.
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We re clean, hot and clean.
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Cheerleaders are hot and clean.
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Actually, that is not true.
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Yes it is.
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Okay.
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It s true.
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Ooh, it says often found on the skin or in the nose.
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Is it not a bit of a, an umbrella term?
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Is there a bunch of different kinds of staph infections?
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Like it s a big umbrella.
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I don t think so.
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I mean, maybe.
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Is this always the same exact?
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No, there s, oh, well, there s like MRSA, that s a type of staff.
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So yeah, I guess.
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There s different strains.
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Yeah, there we go.
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Yeah.
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But boils, blisters.
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That ll come from a staph infection?
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It can cause food poisoning.
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Oh.
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That doesn t make sense, but that s what it says.
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Okay.
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It says in rare cases it can turn deadly if the bacteria invade deeper into the body or under the bloodstream, resulting in fever, joint and muscle pain.
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I wonder if I ve ever had it.
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You would know, you d have to take antibiotic for it.
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You know, I always think this, like once in a blue moon, I ll have to take an antibiotic because like, I ll have surgery.
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And then I do wonder in those times, like, am I knocking out some stuff I didn t even know I had?
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Like, I almost think, I mean, there s a big campaign to not take antibiotics because then you get super bugs.
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Right.
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Let s shelve that for half a second.
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Sure.
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It also kills your microbiome.
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Yeah, it s not good for you.
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But fuck all that, table all that.
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Okay.
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Just every four years, just do a cycle to make sure in case you got some stuff or this or that, like nothing s like, you know, accumulating.
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Yeah.
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Okay, I don t think that s good advice.
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Okay, great.
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I guess I m grateful when I, I never wanna take one.
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And I m also the type of person that when they re prescribed, I generally don t take them.
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But I do, of course, for surgeries, you have to.
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Yeah, you must.
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But when I have to take them, I think, oh, this is good, in case I have any other kind of infection.
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I m all I m fine taking them.
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Yeah, you like apparently pneumonia is a type of staph infection and like food poisoning Boil, oh, that s what I just said.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, there s a whole bunch.
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Yeah boils are those are just those are this
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Symptoms the skin ones just one of TSS I m glad I haven t had a boil no shade to anyone that s got boils, but that just the word it s one of these It s one of these diseases like Peronis, which I have so I can make fun of that one Sure, well, they didn t do the disease any favors by naming it boil It s like your skins boy.
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Yes.
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I know it s like a descriptor.
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Oh
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Impen- remember?
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Impen- I thought it was called- oh my god, I m learning- What if they named diarrhea yuck?
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Stinky yuck.
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You would.
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Diarrhea is a horrible word.
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It s a horrible word.
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Back to ding, ding, ding.
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We love when Bill Gates has to say it, because it sounds- Exactly, even though this isn t Bill s.
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I know, but he shouldn t have to say that word ever.
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But in the documentary, he had to say it so many times.
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He has to say it a lot, because he disseminated the rotavirus vaccine and saved all these people.
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Okay, I always thought it was infantigo.
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Impentigo.
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It s impetigo, impetigo.
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Oh my God, this is new information.
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I hate to tell you why I know that.
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You had it.
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As a kid.
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Impetigo.
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I had impetigo on my nose.
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And it was assumed, I don t know why anyone knew this, but it was assumed I got it swimming in my grandparents  motel pool.
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Sick.
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Yep.
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Is that a kind of staph infection?
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Then you ve had a staph infection.
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Oh, wow, then I did.
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Impentigo.
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No, impetigo.
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Okay.
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And I thought it was infantigo, infantigo.
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Yeah, and I thought it was impentigo.
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You thought it was impa-tay-go.
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Impa-tay-go.
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Oh my God.
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Now I can t remember what I thought it was.
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Impa-tay-go.
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Yeah, when I was a kid, I had impa-tay-go.
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That s how it sounds.
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Ever tell you about my impa-tay-go?
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I haven t, bro.
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Oh, fuck, grab a beer, dude.
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Yeah, I totally, you know, my grandmother s had a motel, right?
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On the highway?
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Oh, God.
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I lived in it, man, and I got fucking impa-tay-go.
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It sounds Italian.
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Did it hurt?
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Yeah, I got like a scab on my nose.
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Do you remember it?
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Yeah, I actually do.
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I hated it.
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I was like, why do I have a scab on my nose?
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I didn t scrape it.
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Or maybe I scraped it on the side of the pool and then I got impantago.
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I don t know, but fuck.
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It was embarrassing and it was a gross one.
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I think my brother was grossed out.
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Well, yeah, they re fluid filled blisters or sores and they leave a yellow or brown crust.
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Fuck yeah, and the family knew.
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I knew it was gross.
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I knew I had a gross thing.
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And I didn t do anything wrong, I went swimming.
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I was just a little boy.
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It wasn t like I was with a prostitute or anything.
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Or doing drugs.
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If you re with a prostitute, it s great.
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It s good for you.
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No judgments.
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And if you get impetigo.
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It s great.
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It s fine.
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Oh my God.
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So you took antibiotics for that.
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I don t remember that part.
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I remember my grandmother scraping this scab off my nose.
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Yeah.
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And then adding like alcohol or rubbing.
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Oh, she messed it all up.
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I m lucky I don t have a humongous scar.
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And maybe I do.
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No, you don t.
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You never saw this scar on my nose, bro?
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Yeah, from my impetigo.
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Did I tell you about that?
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Grab a beer grab a beer light up.
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Let s talk Okay, well, I want to stop talking about this one tiger.
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Yeah, that is nice though that you had an acorn I did those infant I go cuz you thought what infants got it.
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I think yeah And I wasn t I was not an infant, but I was not yours.
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I was still a boy.
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How old were you?
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Probably eight
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Yeah, yeah white hair and scabs on my nose too many freckles smell like shit head diarrhea you did no I never really had it when I was a kid.
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I mean I did occasionally and I don t remember it.
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Oh
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There s no way, oh wait, I wonder.
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I developed like a gluten allergy and didn t know it.
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I told you that, like when I stopped actually eating gluten, we used to talk about it all the time.
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I had Lucy Goosey several times a week.
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Yeah.
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And I have not had it in like two years.
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Yes, you have.
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Sometimes you text me about your diarrhea.
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So I know you have it more than I ve maybe had it once or twice in two years Well, it s been shocking the numbers gone down by 99.9% what where I had just thought my Intestinal fortitude and disposition was that that created that?
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Yeah.
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No, it was gluten.
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I don t wanna, I m mad about that.
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Of course, I am too.
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I want you to eat pizzas.
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Tim Tams.
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Tim Tams and lasagnas.
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Oh yeah, Big Macs, I was talking with Lincoln about Big Macs yesterday.
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I was saying death bed, I might have two or three.
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Then I was telling her this funny thing where at some point Chris and I had the same Postmates account.
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We only had one account in the households for whatever reason.
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And when she would go out of town, this happened a couple of times where she was out of town and then we were talking and she said, who d you have over for dinner last night?
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And I go, I didn t have anyone over for dinner.
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She s like, you clearly had someone over for dinner.
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You spent $33 at McDonald s.
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And you ve got two Big Mac value meals and a 20 piece nuggets.
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And that was for me.
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All for you.
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Occasionally if she would travel, I d put the kids to bed and I d go, let s go.
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And I would get the two full meals with the extra sauce and the extra cheese and a 20 piece nuggets.
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And I d sit in front of the TV at my old house and just.
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Would you eat it all?
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Yeah, I d get high.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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So I was saying it might be my deathbed meal because I won t ever have to pay the price.
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Yeah, that s true.
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Of the gluten.
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It s weird, because you re much bigger than me, obviously, but your stomach can t be that much bigger than mine.
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It can t be.
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You re right.
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How I could never do that, and not because I wouldn t want to, but I physically would not be able to eat that much.
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But I am virtually too exercise, weight wise.
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But I wouldn t be able to eat.
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You could eat a Big Mac value meal and 10 nuggets.
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And 10 nuggets.
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Yeah, if you wanted to get high.
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It would be very hard.
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Yeah, that s not hard for me at all.
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Well, of course, that s not.
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That would make sense to me.
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No, no, the order I get.
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Really?
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The two value meals and the 20 piece, that s not hard at all.
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I m loving it down to the last nugget.
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I mean, but I guess it s, maybe it s all, I don t know, because I could eat a whole pizza.
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Exactly, it s like, what are your Achilles?
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But you could maybe eat three whole pizzas?
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Two, I could eat two.
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I always ate a whole pizza on my own when I still ate pizza.
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I d always order my own, and then I would get into other people s as they didn t finish.
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I want pizza.
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When I can really go down crazy, have you ever seen me eat chili dogs?
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Coney Island?
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I ve been with you once, but I don t remember.
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I ll eat six or eight.
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Yeah, and I used to go with my friend Tim Lovestead to Sizzler and we would have chicken wing eating contests.
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And I d eat like 28 of those wings.
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But contest, okay, that s like a different thing.
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You re right, you re right.
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I m just thinking about like average.
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Yep, not to win anything, just to make yourself happy.
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And yeah, I would eat a whole and a half pizza for sure.
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I m having a pizza tonight.
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Oh, I m so jealous.
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Domino s?
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Maybe.
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Extra sausage or cheese?
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S or crispy, thin and crispy?
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Thin.
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Yeah, thinner the better.
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It s a good pie.
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There s two really good free commercials we just did.
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I know.
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Okay, and for impantaygo.
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Yes, also if you re the proprietor of an impantaygo dispensary, you re- In antibiotics, turns out we re pro, which- You re not supposed to be, but we are.
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I m not supposed to be.
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Okay, Patrick Swayze, yes, he did gymnastics, he did swimming, he did football.
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He was offered an athletic and dance scholarship.
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Yeah, I think he did ballet, too.
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Yeah, well, dance.
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San, ooh.
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He enrolled in San Jacinto?
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How you spellin  that?
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J-A-C-I-N-T-O.
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San Joaquinto.
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San.
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Joaquinto.
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You think so?
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I do.
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With the C?
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Yeah.
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Oh, wouldn t it be, oh, maybe.
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I think it s San Joaquinto.
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You re lying.
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No, I m not, I really believe that.
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She just made a smiley face.
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Well, because it sounds ridiculous that I m saying San Joaquinto with such confidence, but Rob s gonna let us, yeah, here we go.
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Jacinto.
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Jacinto.
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What?
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You were talking to me.
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We are looking at how to pronounce this name, as well as how to say more interesting, but sometimes confusing names.
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Pause it.
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Pause, pause, pause.
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Everything he s saying already sounds wrong.
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So how are we going to trust this?
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You have to pick a different one?
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No, but he said, it was the way he pronounced the J. And the next thing.
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No, it is though cuz I I read that as I said, you see there s San Jacinto or San Jacinto and that is what he s saying Jacinto So San Joaquin toe he s saying no pansy say I
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No, keep it fun.
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It s so fun.
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I want to finish this sentence.
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Houston, Texas, very focused on gymnastics.
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Gymnastics.
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What if that was a way to like butch it up for boys?
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I thought it was too effeminate to call it gymnastics.
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I don t do gymnastics.
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I do him nasty.
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This is such a ding ding ding What we just fell into is such a ding ding ding.
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Okay, we went to the Roadhouse premiere.
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Yeah after we recorded this episode We went to the Roadhouse premiere you moderated a panel afterwards with all the actors.
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I
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With the actors, yeah.
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And before you went up there, you said, I m gonna introduce him as Yake Gyllenhaal.
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Yay, thank you.
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I ve been begging you to say it for a week.
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I said, don t do that.
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And then you did, and everyone laughed.
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And then you tried to get me to say it for a while and I didn t.
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But now it s sort of like San Jacinto.
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Yes, or gymnastics.
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Gymnastics.
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Yank Gyllenhaal.
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It s just so fun to say.
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Did you have fun just now when you said it?
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Um, no.
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Rob, are you willing to say it?
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I like Yank Gyllenhaal.
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Yes.
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Like it s a big shock to get Rob to say Yank Gyllenhaal.
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That s not the point.
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I just want to know if he enjoyed saying it.
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Because it feels good to me to go, Yank Gyllenhaal.
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Well, I said it.
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You heard it.
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That was for you.
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That was January 2nd.
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You got that covered now.
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You don t have to give me a present next year.
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Okay, he said UFC is the fourth biggest sport.
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He said it s
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Bigger than hockey or... He did say that.
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The only thing that would make that hard to measure is... It s worldwide.
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Yeah, which is relevant, but I would just imagine their hurdle would be frequency.
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Like there s 62 or 78 hockey games a year.
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How many are there, Rob?
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I think 80.
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80.
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So you re like, you re multiplying 50 teams times 80 games for the viewership.
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So it s kind of, but maybe it just means attendance or single event viewing is bigger.
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I don t know how you d quantify that.
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But there s UFC fight nights that aren t pay-per-view.
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That are on weekly?
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Yeah, I think they re weekly.
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Just on any given night, aren t there 20 hockey games on?
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Yeah, yeah, there s 82 games a season and how many team a lot of teams 30 teams Yeah, I mean, I can t look it up because last time we looked it up member.
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You didn t agree with it Hockey was weird in the list, which one remember I did a list.
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Oh Yes in like oh it was because I m lawn hockey was on there.
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Oh
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field hockey was like the third biggest sport in the world.
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Yeah.
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I mean, and we did just meet an Australian who played field hockey in high school.
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Yeah.
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And I also heard about somebody else who did that.
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Okay.
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Five most
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popular sports in the world based on global participation and viewership includes soccer, basketball, cricket, tennis, and field hockey.
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It s here again, different.
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So, yeah.
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Talk about being in a bubble.
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I mean, I have, I can t even picture what that looks like.
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And they re saying that this is the fifth most popular.
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And then a different one is saying soccer, cricket, field hockey, tennis, volleyball.
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No NFL.
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Yeah, these are worldwide.
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No, I know.
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I think his claim was for America.
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But what I said, I misled you just now.
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I do think you can count the viewers that are outside of the U.S.
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for the most popular U.S.
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sport.
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That s what I meant.
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Like say nobody s watching hockey internationally, but UFC is global, but it s a sport in America.
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So I do think you should count those viewers.
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That s what I meant about worldwide.
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It says most popular team sports in the US are American football.
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Well team, it s not a team sport.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Most popular sport.
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Well, that s biggest sports in the US.
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America.
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America.
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Individual sports, I mean, it s different.
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Individual sports, golf.
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Sure.
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Boxing.
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I don t think boxing s bigger than UFC.
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I don t know what to tell you.
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Not anymore, I don t think it is.
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That s what it says on Wikipedia.
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I know, I know.
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I accept what you re reading to me.
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I don t accept that boxing s bigger than UFC, despite the claim on Wikipedia.
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I know that s frustrating.
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It sure is.
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Yeah.
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Do you want from statisticsanddata.org?
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There s so many fucking.
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It s an org.
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It s a good one.
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Yeah.
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So football, number one, then basketball, baseball, boxing, hockey, soccer.
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Do you think they re counting UFC in boxing?
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MMA is here at 16.7%.
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What s that place at, number seven or eight?
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Well, I think it s hard to because those pay-per-view, like certain pay-per-view events for UFC are huge.
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I think that will pass viewership for like any given NHL game.
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Is it viewership or is it money?
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Or is it attendance?
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There s probably a lot of ways to measure it.
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Yeah, I mean, according to Top End Sports, one is motor sports.
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Well, NASCAR.
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Two, tennis, three, golf, four, wrestling, five, skiing.
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Yeah.
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If you went attendance, NASCAR, I can, there s like this too many metrics.
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There is.
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Cause there s multiple games on a football Sunday, but I just want to point out there are races where there s 250,000 fans.
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Okay.
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Well this, according, this is to, for Pew.
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Oh.
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What s America s sport?
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Far more U.S.
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adults say football than anything else.
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Okay, percent of U.S.
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adults who say blank is America s sport.
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That s kind of an interesting way of looking at it.
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I mean, there s just one metric, I guess.
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Football is far and above.
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Then baseball, basketball, soccer, auto racing, then hockey, and then something else.
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Something else.
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Well, baseball used to be America s pastime, right?
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That s like an official slogan.
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Exactly.
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Baseball, Chevrolets, apple pie.
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That s right, Honda.
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Impentego.
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Ew, what, I- Puse, who has Impentego?
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Puse, oh.
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Who has Impentego?
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It s not Impentego.
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That s what I call it.
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And I ve had it.
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This is kind of like, I m an ethnicity group, I can tell you that.
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Yeah, this is a very rare situation.
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Ugh, no, no one would prefer that.
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It sounds horrible.
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More than impen-tigo, is that what you re saying?
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No, it s impa-tigo.
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Impa-tigo.
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Impa-tigo.
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Fuck, it s a plethora.
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Stop.
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This guy had a plethora of fucking impen-tigo all over his head to toe.
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What?
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Head to tago.
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This is what happens, it s probably already obvious to the listener, but fuck if we had a long week.
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We ve had a long week, and this is the finish line.
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Okay, he says the quote, I ll make you so much money you could swim in it.
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That s from Rocky V. He loved his Rocky movies.
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Yeah, he would.
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Sure did.
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Of course.
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I was just gonna open up the door.
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I m fine, I will.
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Okay.
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Ass cheeks clenching.
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Yeah.
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Because that s the whole thing with Swayze in the movie.
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And like, is it hot?
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Not really.
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I m just gonna- Did you watch the scene?
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No, I just mean, yeah, we ve watched it on here.
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Oh, I just meant like, have you touched?
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Rewatched it?
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Yeah, to see if you like it.
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I haven t rewatched it in a minute, but you ve played it a lot.
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Uh-huh, yeah.
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I mean, I don t think so.
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The butt looks better unclenched, is my vote.
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Exactly, me too.
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And I wonder why he did that, because it s kind of like, it s kind of like he was trying to squeeze in a fart.
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It didn t read as that to me, because he was alone by himself in a room, so he would have just let it go.
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No, sometimes I hold him in.
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By yourself?
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Sometimes.
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Oh my God, here we go, buns of steel, let s see.
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Are they allowed to show it on YouTube?
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They are.
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Of course.
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Buns?
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There s QAnon on.
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Okay.
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Oh, she looks.
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Oh, there is someone else.
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They have like slowed down.
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They re missing the end of that scene.
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There s a clench as he puts his pants on.
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Fuck, I hope I m not imagining the clench.
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Oh, no.
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Oh, my God.
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Let s see.
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Well, I don t think you re going to be able to see.
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I m going to have to put the film in tonight.
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That s what I m going to do.
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Perfect excuse to rewatch.
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His butt looks great, though.
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There s no two ways about that.
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It s like it s clenched though when he s walking.
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Yeah, it does.
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I think he s clenching it.
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Yeah, he s clenching it while he walks.
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So, is that what you mean?
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Maybe.
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I need to watch the film.
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I want to put a pin in this.
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It does look clenched.
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Yeah, it is clenched.
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It looks smooth.
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It doesn t.
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The skin is nice.
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It looks like a fart is trying to come out and he s desperate to keep it in.
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I can see that.
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It looks like he s just trying to hold it in.
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Yeah.
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That woman s in there and he s ashamed.
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I just, I hope no one,
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thinks they should go try that for sexiness.
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Cautionary tale, Armchair Anonymous, write in.
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If you ve clenched your butt cheeks to impress a lover.
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And it did not work.
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And it backfired.
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And then you backfired.
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Yeah, because there was a backfire.
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So you were unable to hold it in.
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Anyway, I m just saying, and it looks like we all agree, clenching is not as sexy as you d think.
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Unclenched.
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Unclenched is the way to go.
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It looks the better.
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Because it gets kind of concave when you clench.
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Right, but I guess- And we like convex.
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But people might like it because then it looks a little more muscular.
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I think.
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It s like a pec flex.
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Yeah, well they do it in bodybuilding and it s really the grossest part of bodybuilding because it looks like two roast beefs back there.
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It s not, that muscle doesn t look good clenched.
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It looks like a big, two big roast beefs.
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You know what I hate is when people refer to vagina lips as roast beef curtains.
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You do.
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I m not surprised.
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It s not fun.
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It s not cute.
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They don t like that.
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Okay, well.
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I m surprised you even know that.
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Of course I know that.
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I didn t just wake up out of a cave.
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I didn t just fall off the turnip cart.
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Is that a phrase?
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Yeah.
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Is that what it means?
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That means you re new to town.
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I think I fell off the turnip cart.
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Yeah, they just fell off I thought falling off the turnip cart meant like a truck turn up turn up truck There s probably car before I thought falling a falling off.
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The wagon is a addiction thing.
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Not not.
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Yeah, not maintaining your sobriety What does it say rock?
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Yeah country bumpkin hillbilly fool or country redneck who s basically jumped a truck to get into town Yeah, and what this one just fell off act phrase fall off a turnip truck, huh?
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You never heard that, but you know roast beef curtains.
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Yeah.
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I haven t heard it either, so.
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Turnip truck?
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Yeah.
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Oh, I m showing my age, I guess.
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It might be, it s like that quiz we took where it tells you your, where you re from.
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Regional.
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Yeah, it could be regional.
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Totally.
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In the seventies thing as well.
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Oh.
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Yeah, I m from the seventies.
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Clinch.
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Curtains.
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Hey.
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In Pantago.
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Okay, love you.
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All right, love you.
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