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She s a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Fantastic.
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And he s a serial entrepreneur.
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A very smart cookie.
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And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride.
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Get ready for some major realness.
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Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her.
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we need to give some back to, and we have this platform to go on.
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We want to be the anti-supplement supplement company.
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Like why can t we do advocacy work and be thought leaders in this space?
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That s our goal, right?
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Like if we just want to sling some sups out of the back of our car, like we re doing a shitty job, right?
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Because we make high quality things that have high costs, we re premium, and it s kind of complicated, right?
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If we wanted to make a lot of money, we would just sling low quality things, do really good branding and marketing, which that s not who we are.
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Like you don t,
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Get change if you don t try.
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And this episode covers so much when it comes to health and wellness.
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We talk about what kind of research you should be doing on your supplements before you take them and why it s so important to do the research beforehand.
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We talk about women and creatine.
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This has become a huge subject.
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We talk about women and weightlifting.
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We talk about libido and men s libido, hormone regulation, talking about testosterone, testosterone replacement therapy, and is there a better solution?
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We dive right into that here.
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and everything you need to know about being a high performer.
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Jeff and the team at Momentus have some of the most stringent certifications when it comes to their products, and they ve actually won government grants to fund some of the company s initiatives.
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This episode is for anyone who wants to drive better performance, learn more about supplementation, and figure out what s going to work best for their body.
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With that, Jeff, welcome to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show.
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This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her.
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Welcome to the show.
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This has been a long time coming.
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We ve been talking for a while now.
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I have been a big fan of your products, of your company.
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I m sure many others have been as well.
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Lauren doesn t realize this.
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Every time I give you that sleep cocktail when we re traveling and we can t sleep, it s actually Jeff s.
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I do know that.
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I know that you give me some sleep cocktail, which I m like, what is in this?
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Because I go to sleep.
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I don t wake up the whole night, which is amazing.
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I don t even wake up to go to the bathroom.
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And then I wake up so fully rested.
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I m obsessed with it.
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I don t know what it is.
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I thought it was a tranquilizer.
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Well, you should do it not only when you re traveling.
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Yeah, we do it all the time.
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But, but when we re, you know, like when you re traveling, what I love about it so much is like you get all discombobulated in hotels and you get all messed up, especially in different time zones.
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We re talking about jet lag.
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Yeah.
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Jet lag.
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And I just feel like it, it, boom, it gets.
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You need to prioritize in those moments.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Okay.
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We re going to, I m sure this episode is going to go all over the place as we typically do, but I think to start would love to get for the audience, some context on you and how you even got interested in supplementation wellness health in the first place.
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Yeah.
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Uh, so I go way back.
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So.
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I was a Gatorade player of the year in high school as a football player, played offensive line, and I was one of the top recruited players going into college.
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My claim to fame, my fall and fall from the tree was I was up for an SB.
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A guy named Dwight Howard won it.
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He s kind of a big deal compared to me, but I went to USC, Southern Cal, and being in Austin, I have some
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love-hate with Longhorns because they beat us in the Rose Bowl, the national championship game when I was there.
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I went to SC, really highly touted recruit.
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I actually got hurt my freshman year.
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I started as a true freshman on that national championship team and I blew my hip out.
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And I was basically told that I was going to play football again.
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And as an athlete and a young kid, like many of us, we dreamt of being a pro at something.
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absolutely elite, whether it s an athlete, a musician, an actor.
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And that got ripped away from me pretty fast.
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And it became this, does football define me?
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Does sport define me?
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How do I want to define myself?
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And I feel very lucky.
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I had a really great stable of people around me.
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And it was like, nobody feels bad for you.
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figure out what you re going to do with your life.
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And I called the Dean of the business school after my dad told me that in some more choice words.
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And I said, Hey, I don t know if I m ever going to play again.
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I m here.
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I got five years of school paid for.
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And at that time I had like four and a half years left.
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And he said, Hey, I can t guarantee you I get you into grad school, but if you bust your ass,
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we can, I can guarantee your application gets looked at.
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So I ended up getting on track to graduate undergrad in three years, but I missed my whole second year because I had two hip surgeries.
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And then I was coming back and I blew my back out and missed my whole third year with two back surgeries.
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So I missed my second and third season.
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And really what happened there and how I really got into wellness, like I was a genetic mutant, right?
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I m a freak.
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To be that good, like you just have to be in a unique space.
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Well, you know, because I used to play Pop Warner football and I started playing football.
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And what happened was I got to high school and I started playing and I was up against guys like you that, to your point, you were a genetic freaks.
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And I was like five foot five in high school, you know, and maybe 125 pounds wet.
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And I was like, oh, fuck this.
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Like, I m out.
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At some point, you got to look and be like, OK, God didn t give me this talent.
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Why were you a genetic mutant?
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What do you mean by that?
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You were just like you.
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You could feel that you were like unique because of your stature.
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Yeah, to get to, like, to be that good, right?
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To be that fast, to be that strong, to be that resilient, like, it s just like, you don t, there s not that many people out there.
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Like, I m 6 4 , I played at 310, my heaviest.
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Wow, holy shit.
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And you just, like, not a lot of people can move or put on muscle mass.
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Like, if I, like, start training hard, like, I just turn into muscle, right?
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Like, it just, there s genetic make, like, just like all of us, right?
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Question, what did you, like, when you, when you were growing up,
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Were you always a big kid?
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I was always a big kid, but I wasn t like big.
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I was always big, like I was 6 3 my freshman year in high school.
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Yeah, see that s what I m saying.
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And strong.
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So Michael came up to your penis, go ahead.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But I remember being in football practice freshman year, my friend Wesson out there, you might have seen him with the broken hand.
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Like I got there and I m like dude, we are going you re practicing with the older guys And I m like, they re just getting trucked by people your size.
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I m like, oh fuck you just but so anyway, so like there s just like Genetic and then to stay healthy and to come back from injury and things like that Like you re just built differently like you have the right right right amount of balance speed power all of these things So anyways and to get to the level I did like you gotta have I call it being a genetic mutant.
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It s got
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You gotta be born with it, right?
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Because you re competing with how many other high school kids to get recruited to somewhere like SCU.
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You still gotta work your ass off, right?
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Hard work is mandatory, but you and I can work the same hard.
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You are never going to be 6 4 and 300 pounds and run a sub five second 40.
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It s not possible.
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It s not possible, yeah.
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And that s okay.
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Because we re self-awareness, that s a big part in people s lives.
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So anyways, I, I had this, this devastating injury and it really made me think what s important and devastating injuries and like big setback and as an athlete or like as anything in life, when you dedicate so much to it, you let it define you a bit.
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And I had this big, like hit in the face of like, who am I?
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Like, what am I here for?
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Like, that s why I ended up accelerating school and I ended up getting into grad school.
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I graduated on grad and three and gotten to Marsh school of business as a 21 year old, which is a whole nother story, another podcast.
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But I also, during that time became really close with the med staff, with the PTs, the strength coaches, all of these experts.
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Because they were helping you recover.
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Because they were helping me.
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And I realized that if I wanted to continue to do what I loved,
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I had to get close with the smart people in the room.
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It wasn t just enough to work hard and be a mutant anymore.
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It was like, okay, well, I got to really work on my mobility.
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How do I think about nutrition?
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I was doing sleep in college as a college kid.
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I was starting to track my sleep when I was 20.
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What year was this?
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This was 2006.
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Sleep didn t get cool until a decade ago.
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Yeah.
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It was actually not cool.
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It was actually not cool.
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Uh, exactly.
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But I like diet nutrition, right.
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How I trained, like, and when I trained and like, when I went to school and all of these things, anyway, so I got really nerdy into it.
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And part of it was just, I just became friends with like the top.
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performance doc at USC.
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And then when I went, and then when I got into the NFL, I started to become, I was friends with the dietitian and the strength coaches and the data scientist.
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And it was just like, how do you get nuanced and what should I be doing?
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Why should I be doing it?
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And just like this constant iteration, but realizing that for me, I was still incredibly talented, but I wasn t the best of the best.
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I needed to find how do I do the little things to optimize what s really important.
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And that really led me into this.
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right?
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Health wellness optimization.
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And when I retired, I walked into this black hole of what is the market, right?
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What the hell do I take?
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Why do I take it?
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Who do I trust it from?
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I was used to being around the best minds in the world.
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And it s like, let, I want to do X better.
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And they would create a protocol.
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They would talk about behaviors.
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And they would tailor it to me.
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And then also they would just give me the best products in the world or like you wouldn t buy them.
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And so when I walked out and like, I m like, well, I m really scared about my brain.
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Right.
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Like I still like to perform.
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And then you just like start Googling shit.
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And Google and your buddies are like equally dangerous, right?
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They re black holes.
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They don t give good advice.
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It s like going into GNC and be like, Hey, what protein should I buy?
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Not going to get the best one.
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Right.
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And that s what I realized.
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And then I just started like this never ending nerd out of like curiosity in there.
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And that s pretty much what led to what is momentous now.
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I mean,
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about 10 years of like me joining an early stage biotech, really kind of getting right physiology, hard knocks, how the body works, right?
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The underlying entity become a behind momentous came out of that biotech, a really interesting science tech that was funded by the, the department of defense.
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But it really got me into the space thinking about what are the pillars and the cornerstones and working with experts and really understanding, Hey, there s a huge gap.
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And that gap was what I saw.
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I didn t know where to go, where, who to use.
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And I didn t associate with the best brands out there.
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It was like, I want to partner.
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to help me on my journey.
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I don t want a pharmaceutical type brand and I don t want a bro science brand because that s not my, I m not, I m not a meathead anymore.
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You mentioned though, I know you said it s another podcast, but you did mention something about Marshall business school.
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I know that s a super hard school to get into and it seems like a lot of this is not just only built on your story.
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It s built on the fact that you have a business mind.
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I would love to hear, cause we have a lot of people who are into the business side, how that has also shaped you being the CEO of this.
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Yeah.
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So to start with, I have a co-founder and she is the genius one, right?
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I will say like, we have a really unique role.
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Like I am the visionary, right?
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Big idea, growth, innovator, and like this crazy connector.
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And she came from McKinsey & Company, which is like the proving ground for bad-ass people in business.
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And she s what we call the integrator, right?
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She like runs the day to day, like make sure the engine and the train shows up on time and those things.
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And I get to go out and do the crazy big things and, and really think about product formulations and iterations and who are we working with and go to Congress and do these crazy things.
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But she, she is the true like business mind.
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Like I got my MBA, I love business and I m, I m.
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I have good business acumen, but that s not my skill set.
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I went from the NFL, played for four years, and I jumped into early stage biotech and learned business hard knocks, and then started this company with her.
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We were both at the biotech together.
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like I m a galvanizer, like I m super passionate about what we do and I m a nerd out in it.
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We gravitated towards what we both really good at because we know you can t, you can t do both at the same time.
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Like you always need somebody like running, operating, thinking it, then you need somebody who s incredibly passionate building.
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How are you getting these big outside wins, like outside shots on goal anyways.
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So
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So it sounds like you have both counterparts, which is so important to running a business.
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What are the pillars that you guys really adhere to?
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Cause this is a unique supplement brand.
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Yeah, I would say, well, so when we started the company, we weren t in the supplement space.
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So our vision was to be the next great high performance company.
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And whatever the hell that means.
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And when you define high performance, how do you, when you think, when you guys thought about your ideal customer, like what does that profile look like?
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Yeah, it s definitely evolved over time.
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And now we ve definitely evolved and minimized like high performance because it doesn t resonate with everybody.
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Like when I think about high performance, I m like, you re right.
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longevity, right?
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Like how do I perform in my day?
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Like I care about performance and I want to be the best every single day.
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I want to win every call I m on.
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I want to win every meeting and that s performance.
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But what we found is high performance is it can scare people.
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Right.
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And our vision is to democratize high performance.
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What does that mean?
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Bring what is being done at the best, the smartest minds, bring it to the consumer.
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Right.
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And help make it easy to understand and get people in the right product.
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So when you and I first connected and Andrew Huberman put us in touch, thanks, Andrew.
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And what really resonated with me was we were talking and you shared like, listen, this is the kind of stuff that some of the best performers, whether it s in athletics or in business, would have access to that maybe most people don t know about or don t have access to themselves.
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And I think like what hooked me on was like, okay, if this is the best of the best, what people are using to perform, whether that s for longevity or in a sport or, you know, for whatever they re doing.
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I think that s what got me super interested and we re going to get into that.
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But I think it s to your point, I am from that same generation where you walked into a GNC and grabbed a Cytogainer and a muscle milk and- Fruity Pebbles flavored.
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Yeah, whatever it was.
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And you just assume because it s there that that s the stuff you should be taking.
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Yeah.
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And you ask the kid, the 18-year-old there, you re 18 yourself, 18-year-old self goes into GNC and it s like, what should I take?
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And they re like, this shit gets you jacked.
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And you re like, in.
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Right?
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And it s like, that was the wrong move.
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Right?
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Cause that s not really what s important.
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And, and, you know, I don t know if 18 year olds are our core demographic, but when I think about us and what we re trying to do in democratizing high performance, it s get people into the right products at the right time for them.
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Right.
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And that s the best because the quality of our, in our industry is quite scary.
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And there s a reason why pro and college sport teams can only work with so many brands.
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It s because the certifications that we have to carry to work with those brands are really hard to get and they cost a shit ton of money.
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What are some things that the audience can look out for in their supplements that are a huge red flag?
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There s a lot of things.
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The challenge is our industry is not regulated.
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So what s on the label doesn t have to be what s in it.
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Oh, all right.
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And so, which we know to a degree, but like give an example, give an example.
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I ll give an example about us.
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So we sell vitamin D vitamin D is
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It s really simple.
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Super simple.
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We failed a production run of vitamin D because it somehow got cross-contaminated with a banned substance.
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A what?
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A banned substance.
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What s that?
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Just something that s not allowed.
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Something that s impermissible within sport.
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What we do with that production run, it goes into a dumpster.
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because we can t market it based upon our certifications and our product standards.
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Because that supplement, that vitamin D, the most simple, vitamin D is super basic.
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Why is it so simple?
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It s just vitamin D, but it came in cross-contamination.
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There s no way vitamin D should do that.
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But in the manufacturing process, it could have been on a truck, it could have been in a warehouse, it could have been on the same production line.
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but it failed.
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And what we have to do is we have to dumpster it because of our certifications.
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Most brands don t certify anything or even test it.
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Right.
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And there are two certifications that pro and college sports can use.
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One is called NSF.
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The other one s called informed sport and informed choice.
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These two logos on the package.
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And basically they don t only test for banned substances.
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They test for actual what is in the product is supposed to be in it.
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So banned substance, like there s whatever, 250 banned substances by the Olympic standards and pro sports that you can t take.
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And if you take, you test positive for a drug test and you miss out on seasons.
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Me as a consumer don t want to take banned substances unless I m knowingly taking banned substances to increase whatever I want.
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Right.
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And then number two is.
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If it says it has 20 grams of protein in it, I want it to have 20 grams of protein in it, not 16 or 26.
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And that is not regulated either in our space.
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What we do is we also have label claim accuracy.
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So we ve actually have things that come out of spec.
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And what we have to do is we have to apply.
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To get label our labels change to meet those specs.
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So like if we re like in a hydration product, if we had too much sodium, we d have to change the label to be accurate.
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And there are some, there are great brands out there that do that, right?
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That follow this, but not that many.
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And just because we say we re, because a brand says they re third party certified, that could mean like you have somebody come in and make sure you don t have rats in your facility, right?
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That could be third party certified, but like there, these two governing bodies are incredibly important.
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Um, because this is what s regulating all college sports or professional sports.
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And so they have to, and you know, they have to measure that to make sure that everything s on an equal playing field.
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But let s say someone at home does have a huge vitamin cabinet of all different things.
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Is there anything that they can turn the label over and look for that you have seen in a lot of vitamins that you re like, this is bullshit.
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Cause I feel like you re like the vitamin detective.
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I don t know if I m the vitamin detective.
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I think the challenge is when you think about vitamins and supplements.
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Like to get 80% of the value, you don t have to do, only 20% of the vitamins and supplements matter, right?
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And then to get that last 20%, it s so dialed and so specific, but the impact is so low.
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So what we definitely do as Americans and society is, it s like, oh, let s just take the kitchen sink and then we don t do anything.
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Right.
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Because like, I took 20 pills today.
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I that s too many.
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And then you fall off.
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Whereas really there s like five things that matter to all of us.
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And then we should optimize around one or two other areas, not like take the kitchen sink.
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So I would say some of the things that were like sucralose is the devil.
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We know that.
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Right.
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And that s not going to be in any of your, your encapsulations, your pills, but sucralose is really, really bad.
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Right.
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And we know that there s a ton of things Huberman talks about all the like, but it s found a lot in powders, right?
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Gels, drinks, et cetera.
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Right.
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Fake sugar, fake sweetener.
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So if you see sucralose on the label, you re just, yeah, you should probably stay away from it.
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Right.
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And, and some sucralose is.
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Okay, but like, be smart on that.
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And I would say the other thing that s really important around supplements is understanding what the effective dose is.
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And that s something we ve worked very, very hard at with our experts is actually what is the effective dose that matters.
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Omega-3 is a great example.
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Omega-3s, right, people think fish oils, right?
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And our brain, so anyways, little known fact, omega-3s are really, really important for our brain, right?
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Our brain is made up of DHA, or the most common fat in our brain is DHA, which is one of three omega-3s.
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And we just don t get enough omega-3s in our diet.
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But the challenge is when you look at omega-3s,
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You can go to a big box store and buy fish oil, right?
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But it might only have 100 milligrams of omega-3s.
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Is it also true that some of that fish oil is like maybe not so quality?
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It s just fish oil.
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Fish oil does not equal omega-3.
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I don t know if you ve seen on Twitter, there was a lot of people, there was at one point, I actually messaged Andrew about this, because there was like a thread going on about people saying don t take fish oil because it could be rancid or like a lot of them, but I m assuming that
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A hundred percent.
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You re a hundred percent right.
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So the quality of fish oil.
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I m eating all your stash by the way.
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That s my personal stash that I brought to Austin.
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But the challenge with fish oil is you need high doses, like an effective dose.
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So a hundred milligrams of DHA and a hundred milligrams of EPA is not an effective dose, right?
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And we know we need a lot to make it effective.
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And omega-3 has some really cool things around cognitive longevity and the studies around it from cognitive longevity and cognitive performance is real, like 10,000 clinical studies around this.
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And this is like, if you had to pick two supplements that every human being should take,
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omega-3 and creatine, male or female.
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I want to talk about creatine with you in a minute, but keep going.
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But not all omega-3s are created equal.
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Creatine is pretty much created equal across the board.
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So if you pick up 50 different omegas, I guarantee you where you source it from, the amount in it is going to be vastly different.
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And so what s really important, really high amount of DHA and EPA, right?
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Critical, the two critical ones you get, right?
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We have 1.6 grams total per two capsules, which is as many as you can get.
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It s only DHA and EPA rather than 800 milligrams of each.
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rather than when you look at a lot of, of Omega threes, it will be like a hundred milligrams of this and a hundred milligrams, a hundred milligrams of DHA, a hundred milligrams of EPA, and then a gram of fish oil and fish oil is just, it just might as well be olive oil or might as well be oil, right?
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For that matter, just fat from fish, but it doesn t have those core components of it.
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So that s really important to understand.
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And also like an Omega is a great example because where you source fish from matters, right?
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mercury content, heavy metals, is it sustainable?
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There s like a lot of really important things, but people don t think about that.
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And the quality, so the quality of fish oil, it s very, very different.
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Now, when you talk about the quality of vitamin D, not that different, right?
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Vitamin D is essentially a commodity.
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I m buying the fuck out of your omegas because I m thinking about the omega I take right now.
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And it s like- We have this omega.
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I haven t tried this one.
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The one I have in my room is a different brand and I ve, I didn t even think about what kind of, like what the, is it farmed?
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Is it wild?
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That matters, right?
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I want to know more about creatine.
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You mentioned it earlier.
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Michael wants to know too.
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Creatine is a little testy of a subject with women.
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We, I feel like we don t have enough information.
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It s something that I just started taking and I m a fan of.
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I would love to hear your opinion.
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And it s interesting because I have taken creatine my entire life.
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Just always.
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I think a lot of guys that get into weightlifting, they take it and I only take, I take like five grams a day or whatever it is and feel great.
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But when I first introduced her to it, she was so scared that she was going to like get water weight and bulk up and all this stuff.
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So I think like you demystifying a lot of the assumptions around.
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Give us a TikTok clip for this.
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TikTok clip.
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Oh my God.
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I am like anti, I m like the most anti TikTok human ever.
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Start with that.
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Yeah.
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Sorry.
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Creatine is really misunderstood.
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And so creatine is like one of my favorite ones because I didn t know this about creatine too until probably three or four years ago.
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And so if I go back to what s most important to me is cognitive longevity.
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I hit my head for a living.
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I was a pro football player, right?
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I m scared of dementia, Alzheimer s, all of these things.
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And creatine and omegas are the two things that have very, very well researched around cognitive longevity.
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But creatine is just a basic amino acid and basically it helps optimize your
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your cells within your body, in your brain, right?
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How do you consume, right?
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It helps optimize when those cells that consume a ton of energy.
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Creatine s impact on cognitive performance is very well studied now, like very, very well studied and very well understood.
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It just has this terrible stigma.
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It s like,
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Creatine is like the bro-iest of all bro things.
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It reminds me of meat in 2018.
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Meat s PR has changed, and creatine s PR is changing too.
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Well, because I think a lot of these, I mean, of the bro-iest bro stuff, it s like these guys would take like 30 grams of creatine a day.
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Yeah, you gotta load.
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And it s, guess what?
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Guess what also consumes a ton of energy?
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Your muscles and your cells in your muscles.
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So when you re training super hard and you want to gain weight and
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get lean, load up on that creatine, shit works, right?
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Like I was an athlete in the late 90s, early 2000s, like creatine, I had no idea was good for your brain.
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But now what s happening in pro and college sports, and even in, it s fascinating, even in the most elite military special forces, they use creatine as a neuroprotective and a neural regenerative product.
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They are prescribing it to their athletes.
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or their special operators.
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Doesn t it help with sleep as well?
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It can have all those benefits, but creatine is just such a critical amino acid for our body.
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So anyways, creatine is fascinating.
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It s something that most people are very confused, and creatine costs no money.
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Essentially, creatine is cheap, and creatine is a pure commodity, whereas I just talked about how different omegas are.
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Very, very different, right?
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Quality matters where it s sourced from.
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Creatine monohydrate is creatine monohydrate is creatine monohydrate, essentially, right?
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You just want to make sure it s just creatine monohydrate.
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So when people are in market and they re looking at different creatine brands, it s not like the same as Omega where you could have a completely different source, completely different quality.
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It s pretty much cross the board, going to be the same.
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Very, very similar.
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And my guess is it s probably coming out of the same place.
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But what about specifically with creatine in women?
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Is there any, because we were talking about off air, how there s differences between men and women.
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Should women take creatine differently than men or no?
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Small dose of creatine, right?
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How much?
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Two and a half to five grams a day, right?
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And that s right when you think about cognitive longevity, et cetera.
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Anyways, not to go down that rabbit hole.
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How do you take it?
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Do you take it after a workout before?
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I just take it daily when I take my, all my stuff.
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I normally take it in the morning, post workout, et cetera.
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I am someone who travels a lot and I m constantly trying to be healthy when I travel, but it is a struggle.
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And I know this is weird, but it s really great for someone who is not that skilled in the hair department.
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So I like to use it in the morning after a blowout.
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I sleep on my silk pillowcase and then I use the Curl Secret by Conair.
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But I have to tell you, out of all the products that I ve tried, and you know I have tried a lot, bovine colostrum is it.
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First of all, I learned recently, because we had the owner of Armra on the podcast, that bovine colostrum harnesses over 400 living bioactive nutrients that rebuild the barriers of your body and fuel cellular health.
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Okay.
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I took it every single day and I did not get sick, which was really cool to see.
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I also learned that colostrum is like pre and probiotics on steroids.
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So I got the unflavored Armour colostrum and I take a scoop of it and put it in my mouth and swish it around.
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I am addicted to this taste.
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I don t know if it s something primal in me that just loves the colostrum or they also have like this incredible watermelon flavor that is so good over ice.
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What is your energy cocktail for supplements?
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Because I m going to get into your nighttime cocktail supplements, but what is your go-to if you want to wake up and you want to have a great day and a great mood and just be on it?
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I don t know if I have an energy cocktail.
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I go back to, again, what s most important for me.
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I go cognitive longevity.
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Sleep, connective tissue health, right?
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And then hormone support because hormone trickles up to all those other ones.
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And that s what I focus on.
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Stop, right?
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So we have like alpha GPCs, a great cognitive performer.
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I d very rarely take alpha GPC.
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It s really good, but I m just like, that s not in my hierarchy of needs.
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I take a lot of pills.
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I take four of those omegas a day.
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I double dose because I know the impact.
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I m scared shitless of my brain.
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That is one of my motivating factors in life is how do I know?
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Just because of football and all the hits?
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Because of football, yeah.
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I know I did material damage to my brain.
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to my gray matter in my brain.
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Like that s, that s a known fact.
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I hit my head 70 times a day for 10 years.
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Have you ever done a brain scan?
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Yeah.
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I m, I m, I m really lucky.
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Right.
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I m really good, but that doesn t mean shit.
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Right.
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Like my, like, again, genetically like lucky or something, but like my grandpa had, you know, a deteriorating brain disease.
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Right.
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Like all of, again, I think the next
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frontier when we think about where optimization goes is right now, right?
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And why do I think that is?
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Because if you might be the unlucky one that gets heart disease or cancer that we can t catch or can t cure, right?
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We can fix all of our knees, whatever.
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But this, once this goes, we re nothing, right?
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And right.
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I know you guys had a Tia on, but like
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like health span versus lifespan, right?
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Like my goal is to not have two years of my life where I am lost and confused is to live a full life, right?
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Or more in some cases.
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Yeah.
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Be cognitively sharp.
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Anyway.
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So that s my heart.
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So what do I take for energy?
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Like I drink a cup of coffee in the morning.
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realistically.
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And then, but my stack, so my stack is I m habitual on creatine omegas.
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If I don t do anything else, those are the two things I do.
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If I travel and I forget that shit, I ll go buy stuff at the store.
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Not my stuff.
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Like it s like now it s now I m in my head, right?
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It s like, I care so much about that.
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Right?
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Number two thing.
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I, number two thing I always do.
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I always do our, our sleep stack.
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Right?
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Not always, pretty religiously.
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Every night though?
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Pretty much, yeah.
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Magnesium, L-theanine, and apogenin.
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Okay.
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And it never has... I actually wanted to add... That s what he roofied me with.
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Yeah.
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That s what I roofied you with.
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You have these little sleep sacks that we travel with and I take them at home too.
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but you don t get a diminishing return if you take it every night.
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No.
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Okay.
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So it ll be the same, right?
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All natural.
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Exactly.
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Okay.
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So he s going to do it every single night now.
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Okay.
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And can we also take a magnesium water on top of that?
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Yeah.
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A hundred percent.
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Okay.
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So go on magnesium deficient.
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Let s go on with your list.
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I want to hear this list.
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I m really dialed into the tongue gap for dojo hormone stack.
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And I would say in our, in our portfolio of products,
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That s the one that makes the penis hard and, and does the sex doesn t stop.
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If you want to be scientific, if you want to, if you want some horny goat weed and that s not horny, go some, some natural Viagra.
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I would say I love it, but I would say the like, right.
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It is great for testosterone support.
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And I would say this is the part of our portfolio that.
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has the most science up and coming.
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So Tongat and Fedosia are natural products, plants.
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And Tongat s really, really interesting.
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And it has good clinical research behind it.
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It s still a growing base of evidence, but essentially Tongat is like an upstream and it has cascading events in terms of testosterone production.
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So it helps influence the systems that help produce testosterone in our body.
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Now, for doja on the other hand, like for doja is a really new, not well-researched supplement or, or molecule, but for doja helps with luteinizing lutein, uh, LH, which is a hormone.
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Can t say it on air.
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I can t say it.
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I just can t pronounce it.
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And basically what that does is it helps free testosterone.
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And so both of those things are really natural testosterone ages.
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And if you take your stack, is this something that you do for a period of time or can you do it consistently every day?
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Like, is this like, you know, with creatine, you re going to take it daily with daily, but, but this, is this something you like?
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You should cycle.
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Okay.
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Right.
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You know, I would say go down the rabbit hole if you re a dude or your husband s interested in this with Dr. Huberman and a guy named Kyle Gillette, Dr. Kyle Gillette.
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On his podcast.
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On Huberman s podcast, they go and do it.
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And yes, you should cycle on and off Tongat and Fadoja.
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And it s a little bit of a different one.
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And some of the recommendations is like Tongat 11 months on, one month off, right?
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And Fadoja could be, right, four weeks on, one week off.
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type of thing.
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So if you re a man and you re listening to this and you want to boost your testosterone, this could be an interesting, all natural way to do it.
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And if you re a woman and you want the man in your life to boost his testosterone.
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There s some really cool anecdotal.
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Again, Fodosia is super early in its research.
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I would say in our portfolio of products.
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If there s one product that in the next three years that we don t carry anymore, it would be fiduciary.
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And that just based upon if the body of literature grows and it, and it shows it doesn t do anything.
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Like it s the only one that has so early data, right?
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Like it s got a really cool mouse mouse study on it.
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right?
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And more data is going to come out on it.
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But anyways, you mentioned, you know, obviously you saw that we had a T on the show, but, and we talked about TRT and we re talking about like how sometimes a lot of young guys dive into this stuff way too early without trying other things first.
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It could be real problematic.
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So I think like, again, if you re thinking about boosting testosterone, this would be maybe a more, a smarter way to approach it before you think about jumping to TRT.
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That s my thing, right?
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Like I m,
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The smart people in my life, when they re thinking about TRT, I m like, I m not there yet.
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There ll be a day I pull that trigger.
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Someone messaged me about it, I said, I for sure will think about it at some point later in life, but at 35, 36, no.
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Yeah, and I got like two on you, not much.
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And I m like, I m not ready for it, let s do some natural stuff.
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And I historically have pretty low T, so testosterone and brain injury is actually pretty well connected, which is really fascinating.
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And we can go into like,
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They actually prescribe testosterone to guys in the NFL because when you have too many concussions, your testosterone levels drop pretty significantly.
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And you re out, you re so low, you re dangerous at that point.
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It s crazy.
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You just wouldn t think of a bunch of football players that are all hyped up and revved up and muscled out to have low T, but it s the brain.
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It s the brain, right?
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The brain is so important.
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Those are two really interesting ones that are definitely kind of at the, you know, I ll call them like products at the pace of discovery, like new products that are coming out.
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And we worked with our experts to say, Hey, should we have these?
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Should we not have them?
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Like, where should we source them?
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Et cetera on that.
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And testosterone for men and women is very important.
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Can a woman take this or is this, uh, no, that s where like,
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I m not smart enough, like the smart people say, hey, there s a role for tongue amphedosia.
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You would have to look at your hormone levels.
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Yeah.
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Hormone levels.
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And I would get smart on that.
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But again, right?
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Like males hormone cycle, like we re, we re like, we re just cavemen, right?
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Like testosterone peaks, like whatever, whenever, sometime in our early twenties.
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And then it just slowly dies over time.
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right?
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And it s depressing, but I don t feel bad for you guys at all.
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And then we have to go through all your testosterone.
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Yeah.
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When you think about a female s hormone profile of like menopause, perimenopause, like all these things, right?
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It s insane.
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Like after I had a baby and he goes, what s wrong with you?
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I m like, take it out of this episode, take it out and edit it out.
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Yeah.
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But when you think about, right, so if you naturally have a cycle, your hormone, you have four phases a month, whereas our testosterone doesn t change significantly in the course of three years, probably.
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And we re talking about four different periods in a month for a female, plus then you have all of the crazy things that happen, childbirth, breastfeeding, well, are you on, right?
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I m lucky to be around really smart women in this, but really small experts in women s performance.
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And we are, we as a society are just starting to begin to understand how a female hormones and cycles and whether they re right, whether they re on birth control or not play into the interactions on everything, right?
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Like our bodies, males are super simple, right?
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Because our hormone profile is pretty consistent.
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You know what, I was telling Lauren though, which has really been interesting.
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She just got into weightlifting in the last two, it s been two years now that she started weightlifting.
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And I think the bros have always known about creatine and a lot of this supplementation and whey protein and different proteins.
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But I think this is a new topic for many women.
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Not to say women don t know about this, but I know, at least in my wife s case, I m introducing her to a lot of this stuff.
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more women should know about this kind of stuff, because men have been using this for performance for years.
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And I think a lot of women are sometimes scared of these kind of things, thinking it s going to change their profile or their composition.
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A thousand percent.
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I mean, aimless plug for Stacey Sims, who s one of the leading female experts in physiology.
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And she is like all women s strength train.
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Right.
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When you think about bone density and long term health and wellness.
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And that doesn t mean get yoked, look like a CrossFit athlete.
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That just means like
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Go in and do something with some load.
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Right.
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And the importance of that.
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Yeah.
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That s not my goal to get you.
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I, I, all I ve seen since weightlifting and I do it four to five times a week for the last two years is my body composition has completely shrunk.
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Like my clothes fit differently.
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I feel different when I carry myself, my, I feel stronger in my body, but everything feels small.
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It feels like a trunk wrap me.
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Yeah.
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So that s why I m like always talking about it on the podcast, because I think that so many women have heard bad PR.
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for weightlifting, and it s really incredible, I think.
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Like, you don t have to get yoked.
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Yeah.
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That s not the purpose, right?
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Weightlift, this is just resistance training, right?
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Just a way of life.
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And anyways, it s quite fascinating.
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And I love to hear you say that because there is this huge stigma around weightlifting, like both for men and women.
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It s like weightlifting is not like throwing weight around and getting jacked, but you might want to get jacked.
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Like, I don t mind like getting jacked and like.
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who doesn t like a jacked, right, a fit, who doesn t like a fit partner.
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You ll never regret being jacked, I guess is the way I describe it.
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You don t need to be the main goal.
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There s so many different things, too, along with gaining muscle that you get from strength training.
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I think that, I was talking about this on another podcast, but
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The way my skin is attached to my muscle, because I m such a skin fanatic, is different.
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I can see my skin is tighter around the muscle.
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It looks younger than it did before I started weightlifting.
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Even the skin in my face
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It looks like glowier and tighter from building muscle.
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I know that sounds nuts, but skin is like what I do.
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So that s something that I ve noticed.
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And I look at, you know, one of my really good friends, Kim Kelly, she is huge into weights.
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And she s, I think she s like 50, but the way that she looks is her, her skin is just tied around the muscle.
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I can t explain it.
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And I think a lot of women don t realize that there s so many other benefits, the serotonin, or I don t even know if it s dopamine boosts that you get.
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I ll walk in and have be having a really bad day and all lift weights and it like diffuses the bad mood.
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Yeah.
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I would like to talk about something that I feel like you re the perfect person to ask.
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I had a girlfriend that got in a car accident and she had a traumatic brain injury and she got severe depression.
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And the problem with it was, was she looked normal.
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She looked fine from the outside, but she had this crippling, almost suicidal depression.
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Yeah.
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And everyone kind of was dismissed her because they re like, well, you look fine, like kind of get over it.
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I don t think people realize the effect that traumatic brain injury has on depression and anxiety.
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Yes, is the answer.
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I had a really smart person when I was playing the NFL and one of the reasons why I walked away from the game was basically said, hey, son, everything underneath the chin, that s carpentry.
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We fix that shit with hammers and nails.
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Everything above the chin we don t even know about, right?
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warp speed shit, right?
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And so, and this was a decade ago, but to say like, we still don t really understand how the brain works and what we know and what we ve learned in that last decade, right?
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These great, right, great professional football players and, right, the suicide rate of special operators, all of these people, they re not killing themselves because they re not high achieving human beings.
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They re doing it because their wires got screwed up.
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from traumatic brain injury, whether it s a car accident, getting blown up in Iraq or taking a big hit, right?
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It s all the same.
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And so I think there s so much, there s not a lot of great information out there and we re still learning so much about what it is.
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So I have three boys and my middle boy in this winter had gotten in a really bad ski accident and was unconscious, unresponsive on the mountain and had a- That s terrifying.
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Terrifying, like terrifying, terrifying.
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He s totally fine, but had a traumatic brain injury and we spent seven days in the hospital with him.
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And I am incredibly lucky because I have people like Dr. Huberman and other incredible minds that are neuroscientists that focus on this, that are treating the super secret people in the military and how they do deal with TBI.
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And I just called them.
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And so what should I be doing?
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And like, we talked about omegas and creatine.
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Is it okay for six-year-old why?
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Right.
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And I m sitting here and like the top neuro neurosurgeon or whatever at the, at the hospital or at, he had no idea that there was this research.
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on it.
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And basically I was like, hey, I m going to start giving my boy omegas.
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This was like day two in the hospital, right?
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And low doses of creatine.
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And he s like, why would you do this?
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There s no data on it.
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Which is scary in itself, not to throw shade at the guy, but that s kind of alarming as well.
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It is alarming, but that s not how they re trained, right?
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He s trained to cut open a kid s brain.
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He s a pediatric neurosurgeon, right?
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He s trained to cut open a brain and release swelling on a brain.
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But when you think about those two little things, and he went home, and he came back the next morning, he s like, I had no idea that there was this much research on here.
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And it s like, creatine omegas do no harm.
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And it s like, those are the types of things, to your friend, of like, you just wanna understand, what are the really low-cost, do-no-harm, easy things to do that could potentially help?
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And it s like, hey, take a cold shower
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for five minutes a day, if that helped your friend, she should do it.
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Right.
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Not saying that that does.
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Right.
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But there are things that are out there that are super simple, but they re not well known.
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And we re still learning about the brain, but the brain, right.
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You mentioned your friend with traumatic brain injury.
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That s what I m scared of.
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Right.
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Because I didn t have one major event.
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I had thousands of small events.
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Right.
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And when we think about how many of our great.
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Right.
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Men and women who serve our country are committing suicide.
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That s because they re, that s not like they re a psychological disorder.
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That s a wiring disorder, right?
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That s because their wires got pinched, shut off, changed.
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They have swelling, whatever that may be on the brain.
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We know that to be true.
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And so I think where I m really passionate about going.
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And one of the things that, the things that I want to do the most advocacy around is long-term brain health.
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I would love to develop a product with some of the smartest people that, that just touches that space.
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Cause I think it s the next phase.
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We talked about this, like we re going to, like our bodies are going to outlive us.
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Right.
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Unless we figure out how to make this go along.
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You, you, we were talking off air and I was, and I don t know if you can even share this, but we were asking where you were coming from.
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You said DC and that you were doing something or speaking to Congress.
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Yeah.
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Is that around this kind of subject?
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So we ve won 10 government innovation contracts now and momentous has momentous has, and these are around.
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Optimization and performance, both physical, cognitive, et cetera.
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And because of that, we ve really garnered a lot of respect within the government.
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We re really one of the only companies in the space doing that, and we re doing clinical research and actively trying to develop new innovative products in our space, or clinically validating existing ones for different use cases.
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And so some of what we learned in some of our work with the military is there needs to be a ton of advocacy work, and we need to change some policy.
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And so we took this approach this year of, hey, we want to go, because of our relationships with the DOD, we want to go share some of that with Congress and the Senate.
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And we got a huge reception and we got invited to host a briefing on Capitol Hill about four months ago on traumatic brain injury.
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And we brought in an expert panel to talk about traumatic brain injury, supplementation, and other things that are being done.
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We brought in the top dietitians from the military to talk about what they re doing in SOCOM, because what happens in special operations is very different than what happens at the 101st Airborne, for example.
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For example, and then we brought in some of these practitioners from pro and college sports teams that said, hey, this is our protocol.
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This is our neuroprotective protocol.
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This is our post-traumatic, post-TBI protocol.
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This is what we know about light, et cetera.
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And we brought in one of the experts from the UFC.
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Anyways, so we brought this all in to brief certain members of Congress that were interested around TBI and what can happen and what we should be doing and some of the challenges that are facing.
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And then this week, the other area that I m
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we ve become really passionate about because we just see the huge gap is female performance and female specific supplementation for that matter.
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We don t know much about the female body.
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We just talked about that.
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We, most clinical research has done on, on white men, 18 to 22, right?
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Like that s a really easy population to study.
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And really a lot of things around performance are that as well.
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And so understanding how the female body interacts at different times of their cycle, how they should train during their cycle.
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We re really passionate about building this product around female connective tissue.
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So women are three times more likely to have a soft tissue injury in the, in the military as men.
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Right.
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And that s basically during one of
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of the phases of the menstruation cycle, the luteal phase, you have the most joint laxity, right?
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And joint laxity is super important when you have a baby.
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But when you re an athlete playing soccer or you re in the gym and you re not trying to rear a child, joint laxity is not necessarily super important.
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And part of that, one of the doctors we work with out of UC Davis has a belief that collagen absorption and synthesis is blocked during that period.
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And collagen is really important to connective tissue health.
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Going down the rabbit hole.
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So we re, I believe that TBI and female performance and optimization are kind of the next two big things, but we need policy to change and we need some advocates in there to change how research dollars are invested.
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We need to change how we think about things and how we think about easy solutions like an omega-3 for TBI.
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And how are we expecting our military to be an effective force when we re counting on women to be an effective part of the military?
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Because we can t train women the same way we train men.
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Women and men can do the same thing, can do the same tasks, but they re going to get there in a different way.
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right that s just like we can t ask them to train the same i don t get why that s like such a polarizing conversation it s not polarizing but it it takes policy change to make it happen right right and that s the thing of like it needs to be talked about and that s that she s saying polarizing like some people will take issue with saying that men and women can t be trained the same way but you re basically yeah well i mean to quote
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Dr. Stacey Simms, women are not small men, right?
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You don t have a penis.
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I also think like, thank God I don t have a penis because I have other assets that I can use that you guys don t have.
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And I will also say, I just don t get why the energy of like, it needs this equality thing.
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Like we re exact equal people.
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Like we re just not exact.
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You said we can get there, but it s gotta be different ways.
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We have different superpowers.
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I am grateful every day that you don t have a penis.
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It really,
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It might be fun for a night.
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I don t know for there yet.
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But you know, I think a lot of this stuff, I mean, first, I think it s awesome what you guys are doing, but also like best of luck doing like all of it.
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I know how hard it is to implement small changes in big organizations.
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And now you re talking about a government entity and advocating for all this stuff, especially in a culture where, and I imagine many people are frustrated with this, including yourself, where it s like you jump to the extreme fix before you get to the root cause of things.
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And I think that has
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from an industrious standpoint gotten us very far, but I think from a health standpoint, it s not.
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To me, right?
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Yes, it s hard and it s a big audacious goal, all of these things, but I think we re all called, right?
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You all have an amazing platform.
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We re all called to do good when we have great power.
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or great access.
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And one of the things that I was just around people who gave back a lot growing up and just saw the impact you can have in communities and lives and that little people can make big changes.
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And we have this incredible access and incredible platform
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And some of them was like, we were just in the right room at the right time early on in this company where we got some government support, right.
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To like, we we ve received four and a half million dollars in federal funding, right.
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To do like, to help fund and build our company and build products like that s right.
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But also with that, like we need to give some back to, and we have this platform to go on.
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Like we want to be the anti supplement supplement company.
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Like we want to do things.
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Why can t we do advocacy work and be thought leaders in the space?
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We should, we are, that s our goal, right?
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Like if we just want to sling some subs out of the back of our, our car, like we re doing a shitty job, right?
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Because we make high quality things that have high costs, right?
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We re premium and it s kind of complicated, right?
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If we wanted to make a lot of money, we would just sling low quality things, do really good branding and marketing, which our business is not great at quite yet, but that s not who we are.
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Like.
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I, I believe myself and my co-founder, I believe we re called to be able to make an impact in the world and we can do make money, make an impact, do good, inspire change.
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And, and you, you leave DC and it was like, all you need is one champion.
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You just need one congressional office or one congressional member to say, this is important.
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We did it on TBI.
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We found a Senator that was like, holy shit.
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Why are we not doing this?
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Creatine costs like 30 cents a day.
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And he s like, 30 cents a day?
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And this could help protect people with TBI, our soldiers, our special operators?
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Why aren t we doing this?
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It s like more ammunition or more gasoline drips out of a fighter jet, right?
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The cost of then the creatine.
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So it s like, all you need is one champion to do it, to make change, but you don t
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get change if you don t try.
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Right.
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And we walked out yesterday and we had whatever day it was, Tuesday.
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And we had some of the smartest women and men in this space and female performance and optimization.
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Like we had one of the first Ranger, female Rangers ever passed Ranger school, which is like total badass.
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I want to be here when I grow up.
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Right.
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Like she s done the, she s been the first of almost everything she s done.
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But there are also people in there that were on day one of their journey.
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Like you have, like these people are the top or the tip of the pointy spear.
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But what I m proud of, we gave them a platform to communicate with really powerful people that create change because excellence is built in silos.
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Change is built in ecosystems, right?
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And excellence will always be built in silos, right?
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And you got to break down those silos and build an ecosystem to create change.
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I think that s something that Dr. Huberman has done, right?
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He has taken excellence and multiple silos, broken that down and built an ecosystem.
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Right.
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And that s what we re trying to do is like, if you can break down these walls and create opportunities for these really smart, talented people, just have a platform that s not their own platform, talking to people that are just like them, that believe the same exact thing, you can inspire some change.
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Well, I think what I love about what Huberman s done, not to go so far with him, but he s taken such a scientific approach and presented it in such a digestible way for anyone that s interested in health, well-being, wellness, to understand that it s really hard to refute a lot of what he s saying.
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It s the same thing with Atiyah.
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These guys, the reason they re becoming such authorities in their space is they ve taken things that affect every living human on the planet.
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And they ve made it digestible and it s not with a spin on it and it s not with some bias.
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It s just like, this is what the data is showing based on the studies we ve found.
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And I imagine when he sees what, I mean, obviously you guys work together, but what you guys are doing here, the mission from both parties is very aligned, which is like, you re just trying to present the best information with the best sources and best ingredients and the best products possible.
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Yep.
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A hundred percent.
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You are obviously a very high performer yourself.
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What are some things that you do besides supplementation on a day to day basis?
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Like you mentioned cold shower.
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What are you doing?
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What are your pillars?
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That s a really good question.
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I would say I prioritize my sleep.
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What does that look like?
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I will prioritize sleep over exercise and I will prioritize my family over both on that.
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And so I would say I m really active.
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Like,
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I have a treadmill desk.
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I love to rock, right?
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Put weight on my back and I just walk on my treadmill desk.
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Like it s being on zoom meetings is the most boring thing ever.
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And I m so thankful that this podcast is not over zoom.
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Uh, it s terrible.
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Zoom is the worst thing ever for what it s become.
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So I exercise pretty regularly.
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I always, like I train when I train, I train pretty hard and I do a bunch of stupid shit because it s fun.
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What s like, get, get specific on that.
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Like when, just for context, when you, when you say you, when you train, you re training really hard.
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Like, what does that look like?
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So I have a group that I train with in Park City and they re ex-Olympians, ex-special forces, ex-people like me.
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And we do, and there s this guy, Hobie Darling is his name.
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He was the former CEO of Skullcandy, the headphone company.
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Oh yeah, he s out there.
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He s like a big fixture out there, huh?
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Didn t they move the whole, wasn t that whole company out there?
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Yeah, the whole company.
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It s headquartered in Park City where we are.
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He has this crucible event that we do every year and it s like crazy.
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Last year, our crucible was, I ll walk you through it and be patient.
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It was, you started with 250 burpees.
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Oh my God.
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You did a 10-mile paddle, followed by 10-mile stand-up paddleboard, followed by another 250 burpees, followed by a 20-mile mountain bike ride, followed by 250 burpees, followed by a 20-mile, 20-pound ruck, followed by 250 burpees.
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Let me just, nobody finished it.
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Not one person?
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No.
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Somebody might have went to the hospital.
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Did he even finish it?
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No, nobody finished it.
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Like the purpose is a crucible.
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It s supposed to be scary, incredibly hard.
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How far did the front end person get?
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The front group did 14 miles of the ruck.
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I stopped doing burpees at 620.
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So I was in the front group, but I was just like...
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I m done with burpees.
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Also, I m much larger than every other human being that does this.
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Yeah.
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For you to do a bunch of burpees at your size.
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Burpees or rock or ride the bike, it s just mass equals more force equals all these things.
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Anyways, and I m broken, burpees hurt, and 600 burpees is a shit ton of burpees.
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I can t, anyways.
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I challenge anyone right now to do 50 burpees and see what it s like.
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It s terrible.
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Anyways, so that was one, that was a day.
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We did a crazy swim run.
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So we re always, and Hobie does a lot of programming and it s like, can you puke?
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Can you not puke?
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But is this mostly like, are you doing mostly this kind of stuff where it s like these extreme things, or are you doing like consistent weightlifting?
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Oh, consistent weightlifting, consistent.
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In Park City, there s also the Utah Ski Jump, and we run the stairs, right?
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It s a huge, huge amount of stairs.
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But we just like, and then we go in and we like, Monday I did back squats and RDLs, and I went for a little run.
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All those things.
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You re always active.
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Just trying to be active.
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But like my ideal world is like I train for an hour and a half every day and that happens.
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once a month, right?
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I normally like get 50 minutes.
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Like I have 50 minutes to do something.
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Right.
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And that s just because I prioritize, I prioritize what makes like, I can be active.
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I can rock and talk on the phone.
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I can do all those things.
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My family makes me happy.
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If I don t sleep, I m a disaster.
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Um, and that s really important.
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So you asked, I cold plunge.
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Okay.
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I have a plunge, love it.
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Best product on the market on there.
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And I eat pretty clean.
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Not super clean, but I eat pretty clean.
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When you say you have a plunge, that s the brand plunge?
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The plunge, yeah.
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That s the one that s white?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I know exactly what.
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We have that on the blog too, you guys.
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They re amazing.
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It looks sort of like a beautiful bathtub.
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It is.
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I mean, it s like, it looks good.
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You know, that s like, you don t have to fill it with ice.
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Like, it s like, it s just ready.
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It s cost effective.
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Yeah.
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I don t have a sauna.
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It s on the to-do list.
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It s on the to-do list.
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You like sauna.
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I would love a sauna.
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I would love nothing more than a sauna right now.
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But you know what s so interesting is we talk to a lot of people on the show, and then I ll personally, and some people, whenever I hear someone say, I don t have the time, but when I met you, I think you were rocking on your treadmill desk walking, and that was in an introductory meeting, but the point is,
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You can, people can get creative and find ways to move their body.
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Just saying you don t have the time just means you don t care about prioritizing.
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It s just BS, right?
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Like we can all have time to like move the body and we don t, you don t need to go to zone five.
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Like you don t need a red line.
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I mean, it s good to red line sometimes, but you don t need to like just be active, right?
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Like that s what we re called to like, we re built to move.
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One of my favorite ones is when I post a book on Instagram stories and someone will respond to me, how do you have the time to read?
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And I ll literally voice note back and be like, if you re on Instagram consuming my content, you have time to read.
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So true.
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Like if you re watching someone and you re like, I don t understand how they have the time to do that.
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Take the time that you spend watching someone s content and put it towards your own life.
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Exactly.
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That ll give you time.
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A hundred percent.
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I mean, for me, like whatever, I m staying down the street and I m on the 14th floor.
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I just take the stairs.
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Right.
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And that s like two more minutes than the elevator, but that s an impactful five minutes.
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Well, I think it s about also being creative with time.
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Like when you say you re on the treadmill and you re rucking, you re have your desk there and you re like, you re doing a lot of things at once.
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I think that there s ways to creatively habit stack things.
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A hundred percent.
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Right.
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And also just, you know, not, I m not a big fan of multitasking, but I love a passive multitask.
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So taking your calls while you walk outside, like it s just putting those little things together that you can where you can.
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So the really big thing that sold me on a treadmill desk was it actually allowed me to focus way better.
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Yeah.
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So what I realized when I m on zoom, I m checking email, doing texts, all these things.
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If I m sitting, if I m sitting in a phone booth or at my desk,
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when I m walking, guess what you can t do?
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You can t kind of listen and type and do all that.
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Like it s you in the screen, right?
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Like, cause you re walking.
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And so like, it makes me way more present in my conversation.
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It feels like you re in person because you have like this physical sense of there and you can t like, you can t do more than one thing.
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Just like in person.
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It s like, I can t look at you in the eye and give you my full attention while I m texting or it s why it s one of the reasons we won t do this show without it being in person.
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Like we literally, like we ve had,
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quote-unquote, big names request to come on the show and the only way they ll agree to come on is if they do it Zoom.
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A huge name.
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We ll say no.
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It s hard to say no, it s very hard.
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I know it would make a headline, it would get a buzz and be a big guest, but I just know it s like...
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Everyone s going to be distracted.
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Nobody s going to be paying attention.
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I don t have this interaction.
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I can t tell if it falls flat.
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I will say, and maybe the audience knows, there s one person we did that was a quote-unquote big name and it was on Zoom with a fancy setup.
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And it was the last time we ve ever done an interview like that because it was just not the best from anybody.
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Because again, I think a lot of human conversation is like, it s this, it s the interaction.
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I need to see you.
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I need to actually see your facial reaction and understand when to go and not to go.
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When you take all that out of it,
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I understand zoom can be effective for some things, but it is, it s a great tool.
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It just COVID made it like 90% tool.
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I also just, I m more late to zoom meetings than I am to in-person meetings.
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Cause I, people don t know when to get off that thing.
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It s like, sometimes you got to just hang up, you know, move on.
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It s a little awkward.
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It s like, do we, it s like, we got to go, you know?
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Yeah.
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And it s not as personal.
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Like I don t want to stand up anybody, but on zoom, you re like, ah, it s just a computer.
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It s like, ah, whatever.
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Yeah.
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Can we do a giveaway?
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Yes.
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And yes.
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Okay.
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Let s do code skinny code.
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Skinny.
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Boom.
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I am going to suggest since I just tried it, the omegas to everyone.
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I think that that s a really great product for my audience specifically to try, but I m going to let Michael suggest something.
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Cause he has a sleep cocktail.
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Well, because I think you have the sleep packs that are already the pre-portioned proper dosage that you guys have come up with to get the optimal sleep cocktail.
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Yes.
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And if I m flubbing this, let me know.
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It is basically, it s four pills in there, right?
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Five pills.
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Five pills.
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Okay.
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And it s the- Magnesium 3 and 8.
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Magnesium 3 and 8, which is really important because not all magnesium is the same.
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Magnesium 3 and 8 is the clinically validated form of magnesium to cross the blood brain barrier.
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And Apigenin.
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Apigenin.
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And that s it.
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That s it.
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So it s like, it s probably, is it two pills?
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It s three mags.
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Three mags.
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One in one.
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Yeah.
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And so if you take that, you re going to sleep like a baby.
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This to me is way better than, um, what s the product that everyone was taking?
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I don t even, it s gotten a bad name over the days.
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Calm?
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No, no, no, no.
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There was a thing that a lot of people thought that you take, but it was like, wait, you wait.
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Melatonin.
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Yeah, melatonin, which I think people should know.
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No, melatonin s not good.
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I do not like melatonin.
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I don t know how you feel about it.
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Yeah, melatonin, if used correctly, can be beneficial.
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So we have a product called Elite Sleep, and it has a very small dose of melatonin.
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It was designed with pro and college sports teams, and it was designed when you cross multiple time zones.
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Right.
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That s how they use it.
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Or when you need to prioritize sleep because melatonin is a hormone, right?
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Very important to realize that and messing with your own melatonin, you become dependent upon it.
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So that s why you got to be careful.
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That s why you have to be careful.
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But when you need to change your circadian rhythm and your body clock, it can be beneficial.
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But like I don t like like it is unless you need to prioritize sleep that night and it s like, I got a game tomorrow.
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I got something huge that I need to make sure I sleep.
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Melatonin is OK.
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Not habitual.
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I mean, even though the data says it s not a habit for me, not a slow low dose.
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No, that s why I had to stop because I noticed that I was at one point when I was doing it, we were traveling a lot.
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I was like, I kind of was like taking it all the time.
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But with, with the sleep cocktail, you can take it all the time.
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It s just three natural, right?
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L-theanine comes from, from tea.
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Apigenin comes from chamomile, grapefruit, and then magnesium threonate is just magnesium, but it s just the most bioavailable form of magnesium for your brain.
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And then for the last thing, I know this is two things, but I think for the men out there or the women that are interested in this for their men, the Tongat and the Fidoja that you guys make, I think is best on the market.
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And if you re interested in boosting testosterone or experimenting before you jump to something like a TRT or whatever, I think.
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A hundred percent.
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We re the only, only brand that actually has third party certifications of those two products too.
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So it s just super important.
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I love what you re doing.
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I think you re awesome.
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Thank you so much for coming on.
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I m so glad Andrew connected that you guys will do it again.
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Yeah.
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I hope that you give me a sleep cocktail every single night and I ll expect it on my bedside.
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All right.
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Thank you.