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Coming up next on Passion Struck.
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So the only reason that we are not at our peak state is we have some type of toxicity or we have some type of deficiency.
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Because we don t necessarily control our bodies.
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We control what we put into them, given them the raw material, and then our body and its innate wisdom knows what to do.
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So I always say that there is no doctor in the world that heals you.
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Your body heals itself.
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A doctor or integrative health practitioner will help you put your body in position to heal.
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I call it the big rocks theory.
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I m sure you ve heard of this before.
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So big rocks theory is like, how do we get better?
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Well, you ve got big rocks, small rocks, pebbles, and sand.
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If you want to fill a barrel, almost like the reverse rain barrel, and you want to get the 80% of the results with 20% of the work, you need the heavy hitters.
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fix the nutrition, fix the sleep, and work on the stress, like these types of things.
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And take good nutritional supplements just to fill up your deficiencies.
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Welcome to Passion Struck.
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Hi, I m your host, John R. Miles.
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And on the show, we decipher the secrets, tips, and guidance of the world s most inspiring people and turn their wisdom into practical advice for you and those around you.
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Our mission is to help you unlock the power of intentionality so that you can become the best version of yourself.
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If you re new to the show, I offer advice and answer listener questions on Fridays.
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We have long form interviews the rest of the week with guests ranging from astronauts to authors, CEOs, creators, innovators, scientists, military leaders, visionaries, and athletes.
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Now, let s go out there and become passion struck.
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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Episode 431 of Passion Struck, the number one alternative health podcast.
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A heartfelt thank you to each and every one of you who return to the show every week, eager to listen, learn, and discover new ways to live better, be better, and make a meaningful impact in the world.
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And in case you missed it, earlier this week, I had a phenomenal interview with Sharon Salzberg, a pioneer in bringing meditation and mindfulness to the Western world.
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As a New York Times bestselling author and co-founder of one of America s first meditation centers, Sharon shares timeless wisdom on cultivating compassion, resilience, and true happiness.
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Tune in to discover how Sharon s teachings can transform your life, offering practical tools for dealing with life s challenges and enhancing your emotional well-being.
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And if you liked that episode or today s, we would so appreciate you giving it a five-star rating and review.
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They go such a long way in strengthening the Passion Start community, where we can help more people live an intentional life.
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And I know we and our guests love to hear your feedback.
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Today, I am thrilled to welcome Dr. Stephen Cabral, a board-certified doctor of neuropathy with an extensive expertise in integrative health and general medicine.
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In a world where healthcare costs continue to soar, chronic illnesses like autoimmune disorders, Alzheimer s, diabetes, and more are on the rise.
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It s evident that conventional approaches are falling short.
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What if the key to reclaiming our well-being, shedding unwanted weight, and truly feeling alive again lies in a 6,000-year-old secret?
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That s precisely what Dr. Cabral s book, The Rain Barrel Effect, implores.
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Imagine your body as a rain barrel, slowly filling up with life s daily challenges, lack of sleep, stress, toxins, and more.
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You may not notice the accumulation until it spills over.
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Dr. Khabarov feels that the spillover is what often sends us rushing to the doctors for quick fixes, while the real issue lies in addressing the underlying habits that fill our barrels.
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This principle is echoed by great minds in various domains, from Warren Buffett s advice on accumulating knowledge to financial planners advocating small, consistent savings.
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And it s also what we discuss on this podcast continuously.
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It s the small actions that add up, and yet we often overlook this wisdom when it comes to our health.
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In our interview, Stephen offers a common sense
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approach to well-being, breaking it down into key areas, diet, exercise, stress reduction, sleep, and moving toxins from our life.
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These are simple steps that can lead to optimal health, yet they are often neglected in our daily routines.
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One of the most eye-opening takeaways from his work is the profound impact of toxins on our gut biome.
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With over 77,000 man-made chemicals in the U.S.
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alone, our bodies are under siege.
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It s no wonder that many people experience improved health when they consume higher quality foods and reduce exposure to chemicals.
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Thank you for choosing PassionStruck and choosing me to be your host and guide on your journey to creating an intentional life.
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Now, let that journey begin.
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I am absolutely thrilled and honored today to have Dr. Stephen Cabral join us on Passion Struck, and I m so excited that we re actually bringing you this episode today live, which I know the audience loves.
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Steve, it s so great to have you here, and thank you for making the drive and coming to do this in person.
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Yeah, I appreciate you having me, and I m excited for our conversation today.
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Well, I wanted to start off by
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maybe understanding your roots.
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And I understand that when you were a kid, you wanted to be an archaeologist.
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Yes.
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Can you tell me a little bit about that passion and where that came from?
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That s great.
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So you did your research.
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So my passion was always for the unknown.
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And it was for adventure and exploration when I was a kid.
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I used to read a lot of books.
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And some of it was science fiction.
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And some of it was mysteries like the Bermuda Triangle and those types of things.
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And when I was younger, I knew that I loved sports, but I wasn t going to be a Division I athlete.
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I wasn t going to be able to make it to the pros.
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So I started to explore other things in my life.
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And what it allowed me to understand is that there is so much in this world that we can feel passionate about, that we can begin to explore, that also shows us, I think, so much about ourselves.
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Why that came in handy is that when I got extremely sick at 17 years old, I had to
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eventually branch out from conventional medicine in order to find the answers that would ultimately lead to my cure.
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Yeah and that s actually where I wanted to go because I understand you re a teen and everything is going well in your life and then one day you wake up and you re just so ill you didn t know what to do with yourself.
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Can you take us back to what was happening at that point and what was
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going through your body and what you were experiencing?
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Yeah, so the truth is that I always had the signs as a teenager that something wasn t quite right.
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I had the allergies, I had sometimes the grogginess upon waking that really shouldn t happen as a teenager, but I always ignored that and I always just continued to push through.
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But when I did wake up that one fall morning at 17 years old, which I can very specifically remember even to this day, is that my glands and my neck were swollen to the size of golf balls or a little bit larger.
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Same within my armpits, same within the groin.
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You ve got lymph nodes basically at different key points throughout the body.
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And their job is to circulate the white blood cells, bring them to those lymph nodes, almost like cleaning stations, and to be able to purify the body.
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So for me, when I woke up and all my lymph nodes were swollen, I could barely swallow.
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My eyes were basically swollen shut.
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I knew something was very different.
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I had been sick many times as a child, which I thought was normal, again, just being a kid.
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But that morning was different.
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And I knew that it was different.
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What I didn t know, it would be two years of going to the doctor.
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for 24 months, seeing over two dozen different specialists, a lot of these the best doctors in the world in Boston, Massachusetts.
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And although my blood work was off and I had low white blood cells, they knew something was wrong.
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They couldn t figure out what it was.
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And it took me over two years just to get a diagnosis.
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Yeah, it s one of the biggest issues I ve experienced myself.
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with the way that the medical system works today is it seems to be all protocol-based.
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And the way I like to give the analogy is it s almost like it s a tree, but instead of looking at the whole system, they re looking at the leaves or the branches individually instead of what s underlying
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causing all these issues, and that s at the core, I think, of the difference between traditional medicine and what you practice with functional medicine.
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Is that a good way to think about it?
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It is, and I had no idea what integrative health or alternative health or functional medicine was.
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This is back in the mid- 90s.
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So I was a senior in high school, supposed to be the time of my life.
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Like, I played three sports, and I loved school.
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I really did.
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And what happened was, when I got sick, I had to leave school for almost two months.
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I almost lost literally everything.
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I had basically a scholarship grant going into college.
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I was in National Honor Society.
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All these different things that I built up basically for the ego, right?
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And all of that came crumbling down.
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I lost 30 pounds, and most of that was muscle.
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Because when you re a teenager, you re probably pretty lean in the first place if you re playing a lot of sports.
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So all of that just washed away.
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And I had to rebuild myself, what would be over the next 10 years.
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Now, two years later, I finally had a doctor say to me, this is
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chief of staff of one of the top hospitals in the world.
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And Boston, Massachusetts has three of the top hospitals in the world.
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It has Mass General Hospital, it has Brigham and Women s, and it has Beth Israel.
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And so I don t want to say the hospital is at one of those, and the chief of staff is the top one.
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So I got a referral to be able to go there.
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My parents pulled any strings they had, and we re just a regular middle-class family.
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And they basically said, listen, you ve done MRIs, you ve done CAT scans, you ve done this.
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We can t figure it out.
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It s either going to get worse, and then it will show up in your blood work.
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Or maybe it ll get better, but we just don t know.
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And so I was dejected.
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I was told it was all in my head.
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I was told all these different stories.
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And then one day, by chance, which sometimes happens in your life, you just have to take action.
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And if you re given that opportunity, a neighbor said, have you ever heard of the Marino Center in Cambridge, Massachusetts?
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And this is one of the very first integrative health centers really in the United States in the 90s.
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This is 30 years ago or so when functional medicine was being done.
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And that opened my eyes to a new world of practicing medicine and healing.
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Well, and then how did that lead you down the path of what you ended up studying and becoming and your incredible podcast and everything else?
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Was it that personal journey that ignited that spark in you to pursue this professionally as well?
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Not in the beginning, because I was skeptical of alternative health or natural health.
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But we started to run lab tests that went beyond blood work.
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So blood work is amazing at diagnosing disease.
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But it never tells you why that disease came about in the first place.
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So my blood work only showed my white blood cells were off, because they were running basic panels.
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Well, it turns out I had autoimmune issues.
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I had Addison s disease, which is the inability to produce cortisol.
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And I had type 2 diabetes.
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Now, besides that, I had POTS.
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I had insomnia.
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I had allergies.
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I had all sorts of other issues, histamine issues.
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But those were the major ones.
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Those were real diagnosed diseases.
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Again, I always say there s no alternative to alternative health, because nothing else looks for the underlying root cause.
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But when I would go to these doctors, they would look at my gut health.
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And it turns out I had small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, which is called SIBO.
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I had candida overgrowth.
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I had what s called leaky gut, or increased intestinal permeability.
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30 years ago, they would laugh you out of a conventional medicine doctor s office.
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Now, of course, it s written about on Harvard s website.
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These are things that are believed in.
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So what I did was begin to work on all the issues that I had.
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I had high mercury levels, because when I was in college, I was trying to put muscle on and go to the gym and all these things, because if I couldn t fix the inside, I wanted to fix the outside.
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That s how I looked at it.
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And it gave me a lot of hope, honestly.
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That s why I love exercise and I love the gym.
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But what I did, I was eating a can of tuna every night on microwavable rice, which obviously you should not do these things, and then some cheap olive oil.
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And that was a great source of that.
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But there s a lot of mercury in tuna.
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And so my mercury levels got built up over time.
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So over time, I began to fix these things.
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I met my mentor, finally, at 27 years old, 10 years after this process started.
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And she was the one, Dr. Pete, who put everything together.
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She took the different labs,
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So state-of-the-art functional medicine lab testing with Ayurvedic medicine, put it together.
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Six months after I met her, I was completely better.
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She was the one who pushed me to say, you ve read thousands of books.
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You ve been to a hundred different practitioners.
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You have to go back to school and then teach this yourself.
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And that s exactly how it was.
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I love this story because I have a history of having traumatic brain injuries.
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And I had a ton of post-concussion long-term syndromes and symptoms.
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And I kept going to doctors, and they kept telling me, basically, you re barking down the wrong tree.
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It has nothing to do with any of that.
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And I finally was actually talking to a psychiatrist who said, John, what you need to do is become the CEO of your own health, and you need to start guiding these people to the destination that you want to go.
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And so what it...
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opened up for me is I did get those lab tests but a much more comprehensive panel of them.
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And what it showed was that I had critical deficiencies in hormones and vitamins and other things that were at the root cause of this inflammation.
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And then
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I also discovered that I wasn t eating as cleanly as I possibly could and that my gut health was playing a huge role in it.
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But similar to you, once I started to get the right supplements in the system, altered my diet, started doing intermittent fasting, got my sleep routine in check,
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It was like just dramatic things started to happen for me.
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The brain fog cleared.
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I was much sharper, et cetera.
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So a long way to asking this question, but I remember talking to Katie Milkman, who s a behavior scientist at the University of Pennsylvania.
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And I asked her, what got you to want to get so involved with
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behavior change.
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And she said, when I was an undergrad, happened to see this study that by the time most of us are in our 50s, we have one, if not two underlying conditions.
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And she said that at the core of it is all of these things are typically
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reversible but they re caused by the choices that we make which is really the study of behavior science and how much do you believe that s true.
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I 100 percent believe it s true.
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The problem is that it s very difficult to discern what your underlying root cause is that s leading to these one to two conditions.
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So in our practice bring it full circle.
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I never thought about this until years later, but I ended up doing my internships overseas.
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Now, I did some in the United States, but I went to China, and I was an intern at a traditional Chinese medicine hospital.
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I studied Ayurvedic medicine in India and Sri Lanka.
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I studied functional medicine and bioregulatory medicine in Europe and in the US.
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And so at the time, I didn t realize it, but I was using my love
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for exploring adventure in the unknown to figure out what the best way to help people was.
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I honestly believed.
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that there was one way that we could help everyone.
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And when I realized that Ayurvedic medicine is amazing, traditional Chinese medicine is amazing, functional medicine, all of that, but not for every single individual.
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I was in clinics with hundreds of people in these clinics.
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Some got better.
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Some didn t.
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So what I realized was that everything works.
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You have to know who to use it with at the right time.
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Now, the way that you know how to do that is by running, yes, your blood work, very important,
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but not overlooking looking at gut testing, vitamin and mineral testing, omega-6s versus omega-3s.
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So when people ask, do you believe in omega-3s?
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Do you believe in this diet?
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Do you believe in that diet?
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I say, yeah, I believe in all of it for the right person at the right time.
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Here s how you find out what s right for you.
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That s what I was missing for years.
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I didn t know what was right for me.
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A friend would say, oh, I used to have bloating.
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I used to have all these things.
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This is what I did.
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I would try it.
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Got some results maybe, or maybe I didn t.
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And it s the same for each individual.
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We don t necessarily know what s right for us until we start to explore that.
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So we ve seen now over a quarter of a million people in our practice.
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In Boston, I had two locations.
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And now it s completely virtual.
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And we work with people in 27 countries all over the world.
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So we have a large data set to say, there are things festering under the surface.
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We call it the rain barrel effect.
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And you think you re totally fine, just like I did at 17.
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But one little thing, and it overflows, and now you get the diagnosed disease.
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And so our job is to say, before that rain barrel overflows, what s going on?
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And it s not usually one thing.
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No, and I love that analogy to the rain barrel effect, because what it brings up in my mind is something I experienced, which is burnout.
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And I ve heard you talk about burnout on a couple podcasts.
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And to me, when you think about burnout, it s not something that happens overnight.
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At least for me, when I think it originally started, which was probably a decade before it hit its peak,
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I think it started almost unconsciously.
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It was this subtle, gradual build-up and then
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once it s reached another foundation it keeps building up and you don t even notice it because it s happening so slightly.
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I think this is how depression happens as well.
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And then I reached a point where it was at a medium grade and a couple things happen in life and all of a sudden it hockey sticks and you re completely numb.
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Yes.
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And I think our health kind of goes the same way is
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Over time, like a rain barrel, it collects with these drops, and before you know it, it starts overfilling.
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you have all these percussions that you re feeling, whether it s chronic pain or fatigue or you can t sleep or whatever it might be.
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Is that a great way to think about it?
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And I say that there s usually three events.
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So one, there s a genetic predisposition.
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So I was genetically predisposed to type 2 diabetes that runs in my family.
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And I was genetically predisposed to autoimmune issues like rheumatoid arthritis.
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Now, usually, you would get those in your 40s or 50s or 60s, not at 17.
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So, strange that I would get that early, but it s in my genetics.
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And then it s lifestyle.
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And then, just like you said, there s a hockey stick event.
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That s what I have seen over my 25 years, is that there s a triggering event, I call it.
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So, that is what overflows that rain barrel.
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Now, sometimes, it s exposure to a heavy metal, pesticide, whatever it might be, but sometimes,
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is emotional-based stress.
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So I have something called the de-stress protocol that reverses this.
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But the beginning of it, I was 17.
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But I was stressed out.
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I was playing three sports.
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I was the oldest in my family.
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I was going to be the first one to go to college.
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I was trying to ace my SATs.
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I was working a job at the same time.
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I was doing martial arts on top of the sports I was doing, trying to have friendships, trying to have relationships, not sleeping.
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And that was terrible.
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But I was also taking amoxicillin, an antibiotic, since 14 years old.
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My dermatologist, meaning well, to improve my overall skin, wanted to give me something that would help with acne.
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Well, lo and behold,
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And they didn t know it back then, but it destroys your gut bacteria as well.
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So since 80% of your immune system is in your digestive system in your gut, what did it also do?
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Destroyed my immune system.
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So now it left me susceptible to this huge amount of stress that many people have in their life.
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My body couldn t handle it, and it overflowed.
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By that point, I had so many deficiencies and so many toxicities.
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It shouldn t take years to get better.
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It should take, for the worst cases, about three to six months.
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Not overnight, but about three to six months.
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For me, I didn t have the answers, so it took years.
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Yeah, and I think that s another thing that people don t understand is you find yourself in this place and you think it s going to be like a light switch and you re going to go from feeling this way to all of a sudden feeling recovered.
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And just as it was a gradual buildup, it s going to take time for your body to readjust.
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And I think that s something that s often overlooked, is people start changing their eating habits or something, and three weeks later, they don t feel completely different, and then they wanna stop, and they don t understand that it s gonna take a long time to work yourself back to a stable environment that your body needs to function properly in.
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Well, two parts to that.
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So one is in 21 days, you can feel radically different,
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because you may have been missing certain B vitamins, or antioxidants, or mineral imbalances were off.
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But at the same time, people then just be like, oh, I m healed.
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But you re not, because you have to get to a much deeper level within the body.
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You can t just, yes, adding nutrients can sometimes give you a huge boost.
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But just as you said, that does not mean that the work has been done at a much deeper level.
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So, when I was 27, I met my mentor, Dr. Pete, better in six months.
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That means no more arthritic pain, no more of the Addison s disease, again, that weak cortisol production, no more of the mastocytosis, the bad allergies, and those types of things.
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But it actually wasn t for years later that I was at my pinnacle, which I have been able to maintain.
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So, now I m in my mid-40s, but I feel better than I did when I was in my early 30s.
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or even my teens, before I got sick.
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And the reason is that just interest, your health, what you re doing, compounds over time.
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So my biological age has continued to go down from when I was in my mid-30s.
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I was also much more stressed in my mid-30s, running a huge practice and all of that.
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But it doesn t mean that just because now I m in my mid-40s, I should start to decline.
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If anything, the work that I ve done over the years now is starting to finally pay off to a greater degree.
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Yeah.
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And my inflection point happened when I was a sea level on a fortune 50 company.
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And I think I was under just so much stress.
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I had family stress.
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I was traveling outside the country about two weeks.
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A month, in fact, one of these years, I did 350,000 miles traveling.
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And then when I was in the office, there was so much catch up that I was doing 80 to 100 hour weeks, plus the pressure, the politics, the HR issues, it was just everything.
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And once all that starts compounding and you re eating on the road all the time, so you re not eating healthy, you re not getting in the regular exercise, you re not getting in the self-care practices,
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It s like everything unravels.
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And I remember finally going to a therapist, and I was talking to him about everything that s happening in my life.
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And he said, I want you to do a visualization exercise.
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And he goes, picture yourself sitting on a stool in the kitchen.
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And he goes, but your stool just has one support underneath it and it s the constant grind.
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And he goes, what do you think that s doing to you and it s gonna do to you?
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I go, it s gonna make me topple over.
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He said a much better way to think about your life is think about it as a stool with multiple pillars under it.
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And one of them could be physical health, mental health, emotional health, relationship health.
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And if you get all those things in balance, you re not gonna have to worry about
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these other things because you ll be better able to handle stress.
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And I think that s a lot of what you teach in your practice.
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I love that analogy, because I always think of it as, I haven t thought of the single-leg stool before, but people always use the analogy of the three-legged stool.
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But ours is an eight-legged stool.
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So as you re thinking that, I m like, yeah, the de-stress protocol is eight parts.
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So it s diet, exercise, stress reduction, tox removal, rest and sleep protocols, emotional balance, scientifically backed supplements, and a success mindset.
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And you teach so many of these things on your show.
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It s amazing.
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But the nice thing is, so one is, if you get the perfect diet, phenomenal, still probably not going to fix the majority of people.
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Like, diet alone is not enough.
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Because if you don t produce enough stomach acid or too much, you re not eating the proper foods for your body.
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You don t have the right bacteria in your gut.
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You might have H. pylori.
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You might have parasites.
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You might have yeast overgrowth.
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You might have mold.
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You don t actually know.
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So all the greatest foods in the world, they re not going to fix that.
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So that s a problem.
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But I like to look at it this way.
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you don t need to be perfect in life to get an A result.
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But if you re 80% in 80 areas, instead of being 100% in one area, which is really hard to maintain, if you re on the road, it s so challenging to eat well every single meal.
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And sometimes you just want to enjoy yourself for a meal.
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So I look at it as, OK, de-stress protocol, all of the major things, no one is more important than another.
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Because I ll tell you, I have people in my practice, high performers, and they re hitting all of the top ones except for the stress,
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emotional balance, success mindset.
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They re always worried about what s going to go wrong.
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They ve got childhood trauma, things that they re dealing with, like most people, but theirs are kind of coming to a forefront.
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And there is feelings of shame or not enough self-worth.
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And that stress weighs on them and crushes their health.
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And sometimes they re looking towards a supplement or a thing for that.
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No, supplements are very helpful.
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Magnesium, things like Adrenal Soothe, which have phosphoserine.
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They ll take the edge off, but you still have to do the work.
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and the work is what allows you then to use less then of the supplements and diet and exercise, less of the maybe sauna cold plunge, which are all great, and more of being at peace within yourself.
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Yeah, I always like to bring up magnesium because I was, one of my favorite interviewees is Dominic D Agostino, who I m sure, and Dom always says to me, magnesium is the most underrated supplement there is out there.
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It could be true, yeah, for sure.
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Well, one of the things that you explore in the book, and it s in part one of the book that I think it s important for us to go into, is toxins.
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And if I remember correctly, you go through ten of them in the book.
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But why are toxins something that
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we should be aware of, but so many of us don t pay enough attention to.
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Yeah, the first half of my book is dedicated to how you got here, not at your peak health, not at your peak body, not at your peak longevity, anti-aging, and mindset state.
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And so there s really two things.
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That s the amazing thing, is that
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Most difficult things to achieve in life can be broken down into simple components.
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So the only reason that we are not at our peak state is we have some type of toxicity or we have some type of deficiency.
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Because we don t necessarily control our bodies.
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We control what we put into them, give them the raw material, and then our body and its innate wisdom knows what to do.
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So I always say that there is no doctor in the world that heals you.
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Your body heals itself.
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A doctor or integrative health practitioner will help you put your body in position to heal.
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So you have to get enough sleep.
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You re not going to heal in five and a half hours of sleep.
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So we need to start with some heavy, I call it the big rocks theory.
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I m sure you ve heard of this before.
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So big rocks theory is like, how do we get better?
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Well, you ve got big rocks, small rocks, pebbles, and sand.
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So if you want to fill a barrel, almost like the reverse rain barrel, and you want to get the 80% of the results with 20% of the work, you need the heavy hitters.
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Fix the nutrition, fix the sleep, and work on the stress.
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These types of things.
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Take good nutritional supplements just to fill up your deficiencies.
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The exercise is important.
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Meditation is important.
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But if you re not doing the big things, it s going to be difficult to get there.
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For me, I talk about toxins, and even when my book came out, which isn t that long ago, people were, they would just dismiss, conventional medicine would dismiss toxins like it doesn t exist, but when I wrote my book, there was over 77,000 man-made toxins.
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That means these things are not natural from nature.
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All of Europe, they only allow 8,000 in Europe of these 77,000.
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Now in the United States, there s well over 100,000, with summer in the range of about 140,000, because these actually have to be listed with the World Health Organization and the United States, the FDA, and it s remarkable
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a full-body MRI now, without contrast, of the toxicity of the contrast, and you can look at the brain, and you can find hints of dementia or Alzheimer s 20 to 30 years in advance.
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Alzheimer s doesn t happen overnight.
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Again, it overflows that rain barrel.
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It is years of, just like you said, the amyloid plaques is one of them.
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There s no doubt about that.
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High levels of cortisol, inflammation, heavy metals.
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These are all things that affect the brain.
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Lower amounts of neurotransmitters.
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And so our job is to test,
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And give yourself, on a yearly basis, a clean bill of health.
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Yeah, I m good.
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Now you don t have to worry about that.
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Because yeah, my family as well, unfortunately, one of my grandfathers had Alzheimer s.
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On my wife s side, her grandfather had Alzheimer s.
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And you look at a specific allele that you have in your body, which tells you are you more prone to it.
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Even if you re more prone to it, it doesn t mean that you have to have it.
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So the nice thing is, test ahead of time.
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Give yourself the clean bill of health.
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Nobody develops Alzheimer s over a year.
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And you re good for the next year.
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Keep doing the things that
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are keeping you well.
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And as a teaser alert, in a couple moments here, we re going to be talking about my own toxicity reports, which we re going to share.
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So that s going to be interesting for me to go through those.
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So one other thing I did want to ask you about is there seems to be a rise in ALS right now.
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And to me, it was quite shocking because it is such an awful, depilitating disease, yet the occurrence of it is just starting to skyrocket.
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Are the same things that we ve been talking about linked to this as well?
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Unfortunately, if you look at the studies of what the top cause of mortality were in the early 1900s, it was
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specific diseases and accidental deaths, things like that, that are very easily treated now, which is amazing.
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But we now have all of the diseases of chronic inflammation.
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And so one of the things that I really try to hit home is that inflammation is not necessarily something to be squelched for the sake of squelching inflammation.
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So you could take turmeric, right?
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There s all sorts of great things that you can take.
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Ginger, all these great things.
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But
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Do you know why that you have inflammation in the first place?
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Because inflammation doesn t come out of nowhere.
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There s always an underlying root cause.
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It could be weakened mitochondria.
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Again, it could be high levels of cortisol, low levels of thyroid, heavy metals, gut-based issues, go on and on.
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There s probably like a good dozen to two dozen things.
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Now, I would say for every disease,
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There s no more than typically 10 to 12 factors for that disease.
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So all we need to do is work through which one of those 10 to 12 you have for high blood pressure, or low thyroid, or for whatever it is.
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And by process of elimination, we figure out what it is.
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Now, it s typically not just one.
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It s two to three.
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And OK, we work on those two to three for you individually instead of
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oh, is number eight or nine, or this is what your friend had, it might not be the same exact thing as you.
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So now the leading causes of death in the United States are cardiovascular disease, high blood pressure and stroke, which go hand in hand, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and then Alzheimer s.
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And after that, it s really preventable things.
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Like, it s COPD.
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OK, well, we can t smoke.
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We can t inhale asbestos or chemicals.
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And then it s accidental falls.
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It s, believe it or not, climbing up a ladder or riding a motorcycle.
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We don t want to do these things.
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So these are all very preventable.
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There s kidney-based issues, which goes along with type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure, and being on a handful of medications.
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I mean, they don t tell you that being on
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blood pressure medications affects your kidneys over time.
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So our goal is to work on chronic preventable disease.
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We add a minimum of 10 to 15 years to our life.
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The only reason we have a human lifespan of 74 to 77 years old, 74 for men and 77 for women, is only because people die of one of those specific five.
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And so if we can prevent those, which we can, people easily can live to 85, 90.
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Now, we teach how to get to 100, but it s not a guarantee.
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But you certainly get not only increased lifespan, you get increased healthspan.
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So quality of life, being able to do what you love well into your 60s, 70s, and 80s.
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I m glad you did bring up type 2 diabetes.
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You probably weren t aware of this.
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I m sure you re familiar with Cyrus Kambada, doctor.
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He wrote the book Mastering Diabetes, and he s from California, but he just happened to move to St.
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Pete about two years ago, so he and I become good friends, and I love his book, and what they showed in it
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was primarily through diet interventions that 95% of type 2 diabetes is reversible.
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But almost all of it is preventable in the first place.
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Yes.
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As for type 2 for type 1.
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I believe that in
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In the future, we will be able to reverse type 1 diabetes through stem cell-based therapy and a lot of these rejuvenative therapies.
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They re called Yamanaka factors, which we don t have to get too deep into that.
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But certain cells in the pancreas are destroyed with type 1 diabetes.
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With type 2, you re not responding properly with the beta cells to insulin and being able to unlock the cells to get the glucose actually where it s supposed to be.
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And I totally agree that type 2 diabetes is reversible, for sure.
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Okay, and then the last area I wanted to talk about, because I think it s something that a lot of people experience, is problems with elevated cholesterol.
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And what leads to that?
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And for so many people, why is it so difficult for them to bring it down?
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Yeah, so there s a genetic predisposition to high cholesterol, but a lot of people blame it on genetics alone.
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It was very easy for me to do the same.
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When I started running all this blood work at 17,
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I had elevated cholesterol at 17 years old and low HDL, which is the so-called good cholesterol.
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It s only called good cholesterol because it s non-oxidized cholesterol, and it takes the oxidized cholesterol out of the bloodstream, right?
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So that s why it s called the good cholesterol.
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But you need to balance both, of course, to make enough hormones, et cetera, in your body.
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We get a lot of conflicting information.
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You don t want a high cholesterol.
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A lot of people say, no, it s no problem.
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It creates hormones.
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It creates this.
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No.
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You want a balanced amount of cholesterol in your body.
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Now, the issue is that cholesterol doesn t come from one factor.
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So dietary cholesterol
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makes up about 20% of the cholesterol you might see essentially in your bloodstream.
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80% is produced by the liver.
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But people dismiss diets because they say it s only about 20%.
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Well, some people don t do a great job of clearing saturated fats from their body.
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So some people don t respond well to saturated fat.
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That is actually a fact.
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However,
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A lot of people do just fine.
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So how do we know?
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Well, we have to see if you re a responder to that or not.
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Elevated levels of cortisol can be another factor.
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So when your body produces high levels of stress, you start to pull calcium into your bloodstream, and you create a lot more inflammation.
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So that s why we re big on magnesium, because magnesium pulls the calcium then out of the bloodstream, along with K2 and D and a lot of other factors.
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But what happens is when there s inflammation in your arteries, the body will naturally produce more cholesterol in order to patch up the inflammation or the micro tears in those arteries.
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So our job is to say, why the inflammation?
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why the deficiency may be in certain vitamins and minerals.
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Are you not getting enough antioxidants?
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Is the diet best for you based on your bio-individuality?
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Bio-individuality just means what s good for you may not be right for another individual, even though there s a foundational approach to overall health and nutrition, and to figure out what that factor is.
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But again, no more than eight to 12 reasons total of why your cholesterol may be elevated out of range.
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And I like, as someone who took the oath to do no harm,
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I always want people s cholesterol between 160 and 200.
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And in total cholesterol, the HDL ratio of 3 to 1 or less.
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And then I look at more advanced factors, VLDL, ApoB, and others.
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But I like to start at the top and then work down to the more refined factors.
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OK.
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And then maybe one just side question to that is more and more people are getting
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hormone therapy these days.
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Do you see any correlation between hormone therapy and cholesterol at all and how it s being processed by the liver?
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So I do, and again, this doesn t affect every male, but one is I think, I say this with sensitivity because I understand why many men and women are using hormone replacement therapy.
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Let s just talk about testosterone replacement therapy right now though.
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you might be in your 30s or even 40s and start to feel low.
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Low mood, low energy, low libido, low ambition, low drive.
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The problem is there is an underlying root cause, even if your testosterone is low, as to why it s low.
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And if we use testosterone at a younger age, we never find out why it was that your testosterone dropped.
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So I m OK with testosterone replacement therapy.
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I don t use it in my practice.
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But I m not OK with not finding the underlying root cause, which will just find another mechanism for its way out.
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And you ll get the boost in energy and libido and ambition by taking TRT.
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But underneath, there s still that issue that wasn t corrected.
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And so I want to work on that, whether it s the stress, the sleep, the diet, the exercise.
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However, having said that,
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Testosterone replacement therapy is now much better than it was a decade ago.
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Men or women that are using TRT are now giving themselves an injection once or twice a week rather than one massive injection once or twice a month where the levels go really high and then dip back down because it can cause an increase
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and red blood cells, and thickening of the blood itself, and cardiovascular issues, especially if you re not monitoring your testosterone levels, which is easy to do right at home with just a tube of saliva as well.
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So monitor your levels, make sure that you re not at what s called super physiological levels, that you re around a normal range if you re running your free testosterone and total testosterone, really important, or it can have side effects.
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Okay.
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Well, how about we go into my results and drumroll here?
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Well, I appreciate you, as I say, always being the brave one.
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Not so much the guinea pig.
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People always use that term.
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But these are labs that have been run now for 40 to 50 years.
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These labs, although not specific blood work, are CLIA certified.
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They are from FDA-based labs.
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And millions upon millions of data has been used to get the same validity that you would have with these with anything else.
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And maybe just give a little background, because as you said, I was pleased because some of my sponsors had me do blood work.
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So I was pleased I didn t have to do it again.
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But you had me do a hair sample, and that test is for what?
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That looks at minerals and heavy metals, and we re going to go over that first.
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So functional medicine works by looking beyond the blood work, integrative health, however you want to refer to it as.
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You can take a saliva sample when you want to look at hormones.
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It s a great way to look at free hormones.
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So not total, but actually what your body s able to use.
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And then you would use a hair sample to look at heavy metals or minerals, because your hair is just a protein that captures anything that s excreted, which is why they use hair mineral testing for pregnancy-based lab tests for PubMed.
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They use it for NASA.
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They use it for the FBI, for anything like that, which is great for that.
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And then we use a finger prick.
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You didn t do that specific one.
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But we ll look at thyroid that way.
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We ll look at vitamin D, other things that have to be looked at by the blood.
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Every specific component of the body and specific sample looks at something different in the body beyond just blood work.
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Now, blood work has a big downside.
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So again, we run blood work in our practice as well, but running your blood work
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only shows what is in the blood, not being used necessarily by the cells and tissues themselves.
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So it shows what s available, but not necessarily what s being used.
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So we want to look at what was used and excreted.
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All right, so we re going to look at that minerals and metals test first, then we ll look at the candida metabolic and vitamins test, which that one s for the gut health and vitamin levels versus the mineral levels and heavy metals that we ll look at now.
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So, this one goes through a bunch of minerals.
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We ll go over the ones that were maybe just a little bit out of range and could be improved.
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The first four are the electrolytes.
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This is what always throws people off.
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It s calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium.
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And they think that if they re not using enough sea salt or magnesium or calcium, that their levels, that s why their levels are off.
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It actually has everything to do with the state of stress in your body.
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So when your body s stressed, you produce more norepinephrine and cortisol.
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That then begins to draw calcium into your bloodstream, which, believe it or not, can lead to hardening of the arteries and can lead to a heart attack.
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So that s why it s not always about cortisol, right?
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So backdrop is we re in the middle of a book launch, so probably you re a little bit more stressed than normal.
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Yes, so when I looked at this, I said, all right, John has to be following a wellness-based protocol, because these are good results overall.
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They really are.
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So we have a mildly elevated calcium, and we have a low optimal magnesium.
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So you might say, great, magnesium s optimal.
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But everything in your body has an antagonist or agonist partner, basically.
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So if you look at the yin and yang of Chinese medicine,
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there is a dark side and a light side, right?
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Everything, there s no happiness without sadness.
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In your body, there is no, calcium is the fight or flight, and magnesium is calming the parasympathetic nervous system.
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So even though your magnesium is good, it s in the optimal range, your calcium is slightly high.
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So for you, we would actually say, let s increase higher magnesium foods or your magnesium dosage just a little bit more at dinner time or before bed.
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This is really where you begin to fine tune your health.
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I m sure you re taking magnesium.
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You re already doing a great job.
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So it might be increasing that by one capsule, 120 milligrams or so per day.
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And then what do we do?
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Well, we retest them in another four to six months and actually see if that s the perfect amount.
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Siri s speaking to me right now.
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So now we look at your sodium to potassium.
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Your sodium is a little bit elevated over your potassium.
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All this shows, again, is that you re increasing a hormone called aldosterone and increasing blood pressure a bit, probably because of a little bit of stress.
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So what do we do?
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Not necessarily increase potassium to balance it, but work on things like resonance breathing, journaling, doing a sauna, specifically breath work to calm that sympathetic nervous system.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah.
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So then we move on to the rest of the minerals.
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We look at copper levels, manganese, zinc, chromium, which is used for blood sugar, selenium, and phosphorus.
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There s just two that I want to point out.
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Typically, we would go one by one for everyone, but I want to give you an overview of this, and then it comes with a summary on the lab, which is not for medical professionals.
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It comes for everyday people, so that you can actually read your results.
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It s very important that, as you said earlier, you become the CEO of your health.
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You can t put this off to a doctor.
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You can t put this off even to an integrative health practitioner.
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You want them to guide you, but you need to take ownership of this.
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The plan explains all of that.
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This is interesting because a lot of people now, especially since the pandemic, have been using a little bit more zinc.
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And we ve been finding, though, their copper levels are starting to go lower.
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And it s because when you increase one, you decrease the other.
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They need to be in balance.
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They need to be in balance at precisely 15 milligrams per day of zinc and about 1 milligram of copper.
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So copper is very little.
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But it still has to be within ratio.
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And when your copper levels start to go down, we see things like allergies or ADHD in children, learning-based issues.
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We see skin rashes sometimes.
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We see hair loss or thinning or grain.
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We sometimes even see stress and mitochondrial issues.
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Can t produce the same ATP energy for the workouts.
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So it s pretty fascinating.
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So because copper is used for the mitochondria, it s also used for the thyroid.
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So what we do is we say,
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Zinc is a great nutritional supplement, great to get in foods, but there s a product called Balance Zinc that s 15 milligrams of zinc with one milligram of copper.
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So in addition to, we use daily nutritional support or daily activated multi, whatever vitamin that you like, you add that to it to boost those copper levels a little bit.
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Does that make sense?
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It makes sense because I take a liquid zinc every day, but I m not doing the copper, so.
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And you re not doing too much zinc.
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So on your lab report, it shows just optimal or low optimal.
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So you re doing the right amount of zinc, or you could use a little bit more, but not enough of the copper.
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And you don t want to overdo copper either.
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It s like you don t want to overdo a vitamin and mineral, but you also don t want to undo it.
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You find this optimal zone.
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And believe it or not, like you said, it doesn t happen overnight.
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But you re like, oh, yeah, I do have a little bit more energy.
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I am able to push past lactic acid or fatigue a little bit better.
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I love this type of work.
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Again, this kind of goes back to the archaeology, the adventure.
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Every new lab that I read is fun to look inside of someone s body that they don t necessarily know.
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Myself included.
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I run these twice a year.
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All right, so there s one thing that we want to go through, and that s the heavy metals.
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So we look at lead, that s probably the most egregious.
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Luckily, we almost never find lead in most individuals.
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I could share with you some crazy case studies.
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I have one in my book where someone thought they had cancer.
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Ends up being very high levels of lead.
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So you did have elevated levels of mercury.
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You have elevated levels of cadmium and elevated levels of aluminum.
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So there is some exposure in your life that s leading to these.
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It could be cookware, like aluminum pans, aluminum spatulas, aluminum foil.
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That s the most often.
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Sometimes it s antiperspirant.
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And I will tell you, though, we don t know how long you ve had it.
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So this is your first time running this lab.
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So if I had data from you five years ago and they were normal,
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And then I had one a year, I d say, oh, it s over the last six months that you got exposed to this.
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What new things have you been doing?
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Do you have a new water filter?
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Are you just drinking tap water more often?
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How are you getting exposed to these things?
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And we would actually be able to look at that.
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So I podcast, too, on how you get cadmium, how you have high levels of mercury, how you have high levels of aluminum.
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Mercury is almost predominantly from fish.
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There s other reasons that.
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I don t know that we should discuss here on the show today, but it s predominantly from larger fish like tuna, swordfish, bluefish, large fish in general.
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Okay.
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Eat a lot of swordfish.
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Yeah, that could be it.
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That could be it.
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So, for the large fish, we like to say, first, we do a heavy metal detox.
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So, we pull these things out of your body naturally, using crack cell chlorella, biofilm disruptors, vitamin C, and a few other things.
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So, all natural.
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It takes about eight weeks.
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But we limit the large fish for three months.
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We don t eat them.
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But then we add them back in if people love them, once a month, maybe twice a month.
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Okay.
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Any questions on those?
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No.
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Not as bad as I was worrying about.
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No, it s actually really good.
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And then what I want to do now is go over what s called a candida metabolic and vitamins test.
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This is over 70 biomarkers.
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It s a urine sample that you just take first thing in the morning.
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So these labs can be done ages three and up.
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Our oldest wellness client s 105 years old.
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So we span three years to 105.
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And the first page.
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goes through looking at yeast overgrowth in the body, candida overgrowth, potential mold exposure, as well as bacterial imbalance in the gut.
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And the way that it looks at this is that your gut is semipermeable, and if these things end up in your bloodstream,
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Well, they end up then getting filtered by the kidneys which comes out in your urine.
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So it s very simple how we look at them Okay, overall good news.
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No yeast major yeast overgrowth.
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So no candida overgrowth.
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How do we usually get this?
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alcohol Antibiotics for women birth control these things can lead to yeast based overgrowth.
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There are some bacterial imbalances though
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Now, most of it though, believe it or not, is in an overgrowth of commensural or even beneficial bacteria.
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So, there s not something like a lot of the negative bacterias, but there s an overgrowth of gut bacteria.
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This typically happens with slow bowel transit time, so sometimes constipation or sometimes just slow moving through the body.
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Sometimes it s with things like Prilosec or antacids, and we didn t do an intake, so I m just throwing things out there for the average individual.
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did a protocol, and you over-replenished, we ll say, with bacteria in the gut.
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That s almost never the case, but it s possible.
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And there s the fermentation there.
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So there s a little bit of overgrowth with bacteria.
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What we would do is a mild protocol, called the CBO protocol, to begin to lower those levels, and then just use a
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Multi-strain, daily probiotic support, but we might not even need it on an everyday basis.
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We might only use it for 90 days for you, and then your gut settles out, and we maintain that.
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And again, this can be retested four weeks after you begin the protocol to make sure everything s perfect.
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And so again, this is the future of medicine, but we re able to do it now, which is the amazing thing.
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Any questions on the gut health?
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No, I try to eat clean.
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Like I said, I intermittent fast.
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I m proud of myself that I m doing the right things because I absolutely want to have that health span.
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along with the lifespan because I don t want to feel like I can t do the things later on in life that I want to do.
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And what I found with your labs, and this is what I find for a lot of people that have already been into health for a little bit, is that the labs are good.
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Now we re trying to make them great.
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We re trying to optimize to that next level.
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Where if you had come to me and you said, I have bloating, I have gas, I ve got autoimmune issues, the first page would be,
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not something that you want to see.
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Now, the nice thing is, everything is correctable.
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This isn t that rheumatoid arthritis where it s deformed the joints.
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We re not there.
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We re at an imbalance that can, yes, create inflammation of the body, lead to some gas and bloating, but we re not overboard.
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We need to just fine-tune that area.
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Next, we look at your mitochondria.
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And your mitochondria are actually fantastic.
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I m assuming you re someone that has pretty good energy, good amount of drive, good amount of ambition.
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All of that look great.
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So no issues with the mitochondria.
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Next, we look at neurotransmitters.
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You have good levels of dopamine.
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Oftentimes, by the time we get to age 40,
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Dopamine levels start to drop a little bit.
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Norepinephrine drops a little bit.
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Some of that is just deficiencies and burnout.
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But your levels are good.
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Dopamine leads to the reward center of the body, the pleasure center.
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So you still have, most likely, good drive, good ambition, good leadership, want to achieve that next level.
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And that happens there.
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All right, so now the next part we want to look at is serotonin levels.
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So it s one of the numbers that I marked down on your lab that I would like to help you improve.
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So serotonin is the happy, feel-good neurotransmitter.
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And on this lab that we look at, what we re looking at is not necessarily serotonin itself, but a metabolite of serotonin called 5-HIAA.
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And it means that you actually use serotonin in your body.
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So serotonin comes from tryptophan, it gets converted to 5-hydroxytryptophan, and then actually serotonin in your body.
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So we can help with 5-hydroxytryptophan, but really a lot of people are missing vitamin B6, they re missing copper, they re missing selenium, they re missing a lot of the things that help convert that.
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The other issue is, even if it s not showing up as not in a good mood, or not as happy, or just feeling a little bit more low, which can happen with people, even not depressed but moving towards just lower mood, it can actually affect their sleep.
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Because in order to be able to really get to melatonin production at night, which helps to shut down cortisol, get you into that deep sleep, good REM sleep, you need to be producing enough serotonin.
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So that s one that we would obviously love to go deeper on, help you a little bit more with that.
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to produce that to improve your overall sleep and potentially even a little bit mood as well.
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So the last part that I want to go over is actually your vitamin levels.
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And obviously, we didn t do an intake ahead of time, which I like to be able to read this from an outsider s perspective and say, here s all the different possibilities without necessarily knowing you and allowing that to cloud my judgment.
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So when I look at this, I saw someone that really was on a good nutritional supplement and good diet plan.
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So, our philosophy is that 90% of what you want is from your diet.
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But I ve never run a full report on anybody and seen that diet alone fills every single vitamin and mineral that they need.
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I ve just never seen that happen.
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And I ve worked with high performance all over.
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When you play all out in life, and you go all out, and you have a lot of stress, even if it s good stress, it depletes a lot of these vitamins and minerals.
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So whatever you re using right now, your B12 is excellent, your B6 is excellent, which almost never happens.
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I ll tell you that.
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B6 is really used for the nervous system.
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Your B6 is excellent.
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Your B5 is excellent.
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That helps produce a lot of the hormones, cholesterol, all the way to testosterone and cortisol.
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So that looks great.
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B2 is excellent, which is called riboflavin.
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CoQ10, I don t know if you re supplementing with CoQ10, but your levels are excellent.
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So this is not a product that we would actually need to use right now.
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That s great to know.
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It also then says, oh, I can save $50 a month by not using ubiquinol or CoQ10.
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N-acetylcysteine looked good, which is used for detoxification.
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And your biotin, which is energy, carbohydrate utilization, hair, skin, nails, really powerful vitamin there too.
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The only one that was a little low was vitamin C.
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which is interesting because vitamin C helps recycle vitamin E and a lot of your other antioxidants.
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So I might suggest just a little bit more vitamin C in your diet, high vitamin C foods or supplementation.
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You don t need a lot of it, but maybe 500 milligrams a day, maybe one gram total per day, typically in divided doses would be just that right amount.
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And again, like I said, whatever you re using right now currently is getting you there.
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Now this combined with the minerals and metals test
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is what we really needed.
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That s called a starter kit.
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And you do all of this at home.
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Why is it important?
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Because we saw that you actually needed a little bit more copper, maybe a little bit more zinc, a little bit more magnesium.
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We do that.
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Everything begins to improve.
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And those are things that you would actually feel the difference within 21 days.
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Now, over time, they build up.
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They refill the reserves.
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You feel even better.
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But you ll notice a difference, without a doubt, in two to three weeks of taking this.
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OK.
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Well, great.
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And one thing I wanted to tell the audience is the tests he gave me were not that intrusive.
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So it was just a hair sample and a urinalysis.
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And so that s something I like because a lot of these tests
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You have to have your blood drawn.
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You have to do other things.
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This is specifically why we lead with these labs.
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Because a couple of snips of hair, that s all that you need.
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It tells you the last 30 days of data just because your hair grows about a quarter inch a month.
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And then a urine sample.
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Anybody can run those.
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You ship it to the lab.
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We get your results.
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And everything is kept private.
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It s not shared with your insurance.
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or life insurance.
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It s not shared with your medical doctor unless you want to share it with them.
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And you get the results with a plan that s customized for you.
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So I truly believe this is what helped me get well.
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This is why I m so adamant of bringing this out to the world.
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And I truly believe this is going to be the future of medicine for everyone.
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Personalized based nutrition, personalized based protocols.
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So I ve heard that from you, and I ve heard it from Mark Hyman.
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So those are two very good sources.
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And Kerr, if it s Gerald.
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So three of you.
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Well, speaking of podcasts, you have an incredible podcast.
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It s one that I personally like to listen to myself because you have so many great solo episodes where you re covering so much of the different topics we talked about today.
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And I m glad that you re starting to do interviews now as well to supplement with that.
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But maybe if the audience isn t familiar with your podcast, can you tell them a little bit about it?
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Yeah, I appreciate that.
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So my podcast is called The Cabral Concept.
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I ve been doing it now for about eight years.
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There s about 3,000 episodes.
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And there s a search box.
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It s a daily show.
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But it s only 15 minutes long.
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And the reason why I do the 15-minute shows is because sometimes, if I was teaching an hour and a half long seminar, the breadth of information that you go through can be overwhelming.
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So what I wanted to do was teach one topic per day.
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of what we need to look at, and then an action plan on how to improve it.
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So even though there s things to worry about in the world, there s always an underlying root cause.
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There s always an answer as to how to improve it.
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So each day, there s a new topic in terms of functional medicine.
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On the weekends, I answer people s questions.
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And there s also a search box.
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You can just type in rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis, Hashimoto s, diabetes, whatever you want, and all the shows will pop up on that at my website.
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Well, no, and I think your timing is great, because I do mine for 15 to 20 minutes as well, because I found that s typically the time when people get distracted.
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So some of the stuff I ve loved to read is things by Jim Quick, where, as you re speed reading, I try to read no more than 25 minutes.
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20 to 25 minutes at a time is the sweet spot, because after that, you start wandering.
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And I think the same thing with podcasts.
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Yeah, I haven t even really thought of it like that, but I totally agree.
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That s about the amount that you can kind of keep headspace-wise, and then I hope
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that then someone takes that next step, whatever that next step is.
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Maybe it s at-home lab testing, maybe it s just another podcast, maybe it s reading a book, whatever that next thing is to help them down that journey, because it doesn t happen overnight.
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That s obviously the goal.
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Okay, and then Steve, where s a great place for people to go if they want to learn more about you and if they re interested in potentially being a patient of yours?
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Yes, so my website is stephencabral.com.
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It s Stephen with a PH.
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You can find the labs there.
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You can find my book there.
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You can find really whatever you re looking for at that main spot.
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Social media, I m pretty active on Instagram.
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We re starting a new YouTube-based channel.
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But also, I d love to be able to put in your links today, your show notes, just an offer for your community for the starter kit.
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I just truly believe that this is the best place to get started for them, for their children, for their family, and so wherever they want to find us or find me, they can do so.
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Okay.
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Well, it was such an honor to have you on the show.
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Thank you so much for joining us today.
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I appreciate you having me.
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Thanks again.
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Richard shares a story of creating wealth and impacting lives.
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In this episode, Richard divulges strategies and mindset shifts that are necessary for achieving financial independence and living a life.
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purpose and abundance.
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Politicians, members of the royal family, artists, writers, musicians, actors, producers, dignitaries.
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I ve worked with so many people from different classes of life.
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That s the one thing I noticed they all share in common is that when it s go time, it s grow time.
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They lock into something really, really narrowly.
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I ve called it the zoom vector.
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when you look at the zoom factor it s like the function of your telephoto lens and for some people they might look at their camera and say like that has a zoom lens as well when you zoom in on something when you take that which is far and you bring it close nothing else matters nothing else matters taking something that s out there and bringing it right here so that s all that matters that s what they share all in common
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