0
SPEAKER_00
You guys, we ve got the wonderful Amy Poehler, who we ve been talking about using on here for a long time because she s so great and she s such a part of comedy, obviously SNL, but just comedy in general.
0
SPEAKER_01
I think she s as good as anybody sketch player in the last, I m going to say 70 years.
0
SPEAKER_01
She s up there with anybody.
0
SPEAKER_00
That s a wide net.
0
SPEAKER_01
Men and women.
0
SPEAKER_01
I don t want to go Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett, Gilda Radner, but I can also go Sid Caesar, Peter Sellers.
0
SPEAKER_01
She s very talented.
0
SPEAKER_01
She writes, she directs, she sings, and she s a heck of a nice person.
0
SPEAKER_00
She has a new podcast and she s going to talk about that.
0
SPEAKER_00
We re going to talk about her tour with Tina Fey.
0
SPEAKER_00
We won t talk as much about her unbelievably funny movies and TV shows because of the SAG strike, which is happening as we speak.
0
SPEAKER_00
We can t mention that.
0
SPEAKER_00
So don t get mad at us.
0
SPEAKER_00
We love to hear about that stuff.
0
SPEAKER_01
David, no offense or nothing, but you just mentioned it.
0
SPEAKER_00
I know I can just mention it, but that s it.
0
SPEAKER_01
You can mention that you re not supposed to mention.
0
SPEAKER_00
I didn t say which things though.
0
SPEAKER_00
I don t think we can say what they are.
0
SPEAKER_01
Oh, certain things we can t mention.
0
SPEAKER_00
I can say the word TV.
0
SPEAKER_00
That s all I can say.
0
SPEAKER_01
Okay.
0
SPEAKER_01
I could say something like I went bowling and I got a strike.
0
SPEAKER_00
I wouldn t.
0
SPEAKER_00
I wouldn t.
0
SPEAKER_00
I don t want any trouble.
0
SPEAKER_00
It s a game show.
0
SPEAKER_00
That s really, you re walking a thin line.
0
SPEAKER_01
There s our game show.
0
SPEAKER_01
Can you say it or not?
0
SPEAKER_00
What s going to get you canceled?
0
SPEAKER_00
That should be one.
0
SPEAKER_01
No, the contestants are already canceled and they have to fight their way out.
0
SPEAKER_00
Oh, that s good.
0
SPEAKER_00
That is a good game show.
0
SPEAKER_00
Uncanceled.
0
SPEAKER_01
But Amy Poehler is, I m gonna say it 1940 style, she s a kick in the pants, she s a natural performer, she s great in movies, great film actor, I don t know.
0
SPEAKER_01
She may be one of those, I might have to say, hmm, what can t she do?
0
SPEAKER_00
That s very true, we ll find out.
0
SPEAKER_00
I know what we can t say.
0
SPEAKER_01
But we can say Amy Poehler, thank goodness, that s not outlawed.
0
SPEAKER_00
Alright, here she is guys.
0
SPEAKER_01
Amy Poehler!
0
SPEAKER_02
Hi, guys!
0
SPEAKER_02
Hello!
0
SPEAKER_02
Can you hear me okay?
0
SPEAKER_01
We can hear you and see you.
0
SPEAKER_01
I love your glasses.
0
SPEAKER_02
Aw, thanks.
0
SPEAKER_01
Those are cool, yeah.
0
SPEAKER_01
They re kind of 60s or something, something hip.
0
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, I get them off at Amazon.
0
SPEAKER_02
Mm-hmm.
0
SPEAKER_02
Is that now I got to I got to use my reader, my readers, my cheaters.
0
SPEAKER_00
Got your cheaters.
0
SPEAKER_00
Give me them cheaters.
0
SPEAKER_00
Look at Dana.
0
SPEAKER_00
Watch him go.
0
SPEAKER_02
Oh, would this change the vibe of the interview?
0
SPEAKER_02
It makes you it makes you feel more like conservative, like you re going to drop some politics.
0
SPEAKER_01
Really?
0
SPEAKER_02
Sunglasses.
0
SPEAKER_01
Well, yeah.
0
SPEAKER_00
Interesting.
0
SPEAKER_02
Would you agree, David?
0
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I think I think there s a vibe.
0
SPEAKER_01
Are you guys forming an alliance?
0
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, we are.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s a little early, but I get it.
0
SPEAKER_01
Is she overlapped or did you overlap?
0
SPEAKER_02
I wish.
0
SPEAKER_02
No.
0
SPEAKER_02
I mean, but David hosted.
0
SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah, that s right.
0
SPEAKER_02
Wait, can we we can talk about SNL, right?
0
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
0
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
0
SPEAKER_00
Because we re not.
0
SPEAKER_00
It s already been on.
0
SPEAKER_00
But Amy did a funny one.
0
SPEAKER_00
I just thought of this, Amy.
0
SPEAKER_00
Oh, you re my stunt double.
0
SPEAKER_02
Yes, we did a sketch where I played David Stunt Double because we could probably be brother and sister, like we have similar features.
0
SPEAKER_02
So I played your stunt double.
0
SPEAKER_02
And then that s all I remember of the premise.
0
SPEAKER_00
No, I think it was someone played The Rock and I was like The Rock s buddy in a buddy comedy.
0
SPEAKER_00
And then when we got to like climbing on a building, they brought in
0
SPEAKER_00
Chris, and I think Chris, and that was you, which I thought would be a boy, and it was you.
0
SPEAKER_00
And you re like, hey, we re going to do this for all good.
0
SPEAKER_00
And Seth, I think, was the director.
0
SPEAKER_00
I m just remembering as I go, and I m like, hey, is it weird that I m a guy?
0
SPEAKER_00
And he s like, no, it s all equal, and it s just stunt people.
0
SPEAKER_00
And I m like, right, and I m not loving it.
0
SPEAKER_00
And then when she gets on, she goes,
0
SPEAKER_00
Oh, no, rock.
0
SPEAKER_00
It s so scary.
0
SPEAKER_00
I m like, I don t think she should talk if she s my you just keep you keep like crying and acting like you re me.
0
SPEAKER_00
And I m like, that s not what I d say.
0
SPEAKER_00
And no one has any problem with it.
0
SPEAKER_02
No.
0
SPEAKER_02
And I think when I when I put on that wig and I think we looked a lot.
0
SPEAKER_00
It was pretty close.
0
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I m going to say Dana, you blew it.
0
SPEAKER_02
You missed out British, Irish, Scandinavian, German, French, French, British, Irish all the way, mostly Irish, mostly Irish.
0
SPEAKER_02
My brother lives in Sweden, so sometimes I people assume there s some Scandinavian, but no, none that we can find.
0
SPEAKER_00
Lots of Norway, lots of Scottish and lots of Irish.
0
SPEAKER_00
I m British, American and Southwest.
0
SPEAKER_00
I m airlines.
0
SPEAKER_02
Have you guys done the have you done the 23 and me?
0
SPEAKER_02
Have you done any of that stuff?
0
SPEAKER_01
terrified.
0
SPEAKER_01
My son did, and he had a disproportionate amount of Neanderthal.
0
SPEAKER_00
So I don t know.
0
SPEAKER_01
Maybe that explained something.
0
SPEAKER_01
I don t know.
0
SPEAKER_01
He s half Neanderthal and my wife s half Dutch.
0
SPEAKER_01
There was no Dutch.
0
SPEAKER_01
No, no.
0
SPEAKER_01
His grandfather was 100% Dutch.
0
SPEAKER_01
and there s no Dutch and a lot of cavemen.
0
SPEAKER_01
Anyway, welcome.
0
SPEAKER_01
We re going to do this for the rest of the podcast.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s about genealogy today with our expert, Dr. Sheila.
0
SPEAKER_02
Oh my gosh, that s right, I m here to promote my podcast.
0
SPEAKER_02
Thank you for reminding me.
0
SPEAKER_00
Do not forget about this.
0
SPEAKER_01
I listen to it, and it s one of those things you go like, God, what a great thing to do right now.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s so fun.
0
SPEAKER_01
Because everyone s in therapy.
0
SPEAKER_01
Our therapists, we have a company that we love, a sponsor, that does online therapy.
0
SPEAKER_01
So therapy s big.
0
SPEAKER_01
I listen to the Chris Parnell, Anna Gasteyer hysterical.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s really funny, and they re so easy.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s better than this podcast.
0
SPEAKER_01
Put it that way.
0
SPEAKER_01
If you re listening to this, switch over.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s not a competition, but they re nice.
0
SPEAKER_01
They re like 22, 25 minutes.
0
SPEAKER_01
Amy plays a megalomaniacal, but with so many, because I was in therapy for five years, I still see or talk to a therapist.
0
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you re not done.
0
SPEAKER_01
You re capturing a rhythm and a thing, especially in that every time someone says something, you just ask them another question, kind of.
0
SPEAKER_01
So that makes me feel sad.
0
SPEAKER_01
And sad is feeling bad about myself and feeling bad about myself.
0
SPEAKER_01
They do their own therapy, basically.
0
SPEAKER_01
So anyway, that s all I have to say.
0
SPEAKER_01
But you talk about it.
0
SPEAKER_01
promote it or just say why you re doing it?
0
SPEAKER_02
Well, it s super fun.
0
SPEAKER_02
We did it during the strike and we just improvised with a bunch of our buddies like Ana and Chris and a bunch of SNL people are on it.
0
SPEAKER_02
Rachel Dratch, Paula Pell, Tina Fey.
0
SPEAKER_02
We have like couples, people that are actual couples in real life and people that like are like
0
SPEAKER_02
comedy partners like Abby and Alana from Broad City.
0
SPEAKER_02
We have all these different people come in and I play a therapist named Dr. Sheila and it has to be said in the form of a question because she s not a doctor.
0
SPEAKER_02
And it s just that fun game where I m bad at my job and they have something they want to work out and we just improvise and cut it down.
0
SPEAKER_02
And it s just been a blast.
0
SPEAKER_02
Like it s been very creatively fun because it s been a minute since I ve
0
SPEAKER_00
I don t know, gotten the play character improv bones are rusty.
0
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
0
SPEAKER_00
I mean, when the one I heard and it was probably the first one, but I don t know if it said who it was.
0
SPEAKER_00
So I know your voice, your voice is very unique and then and distinctive.
0
SPEAKER_00
But who was the first couple that was had the mom problem?
0
SPEAKER_02
Ah, that was out today.
0
SPEAKER_02
And that is the three great Chicago improvisers, Pete Gross, Gene Villapique, and Stephanie Ware.
0
SPEAKER_02
And the premise of that is super fun is basically a couple comes in and they re like, what s the problem?
0
SPEAKER_02
He s like, I don t know what the problem is.
0
SPEAKER_02
And the wife is like, his mom is really meddling in our relationship.
0
SPEAKER_02
So Dr. Sheila encourages her to talk about how much she hates her mother-in-law.
0
SPEAKER_02
And then we reveal that she s been hiding under a pile of blankets the whole time.
0
SPEAKER_02
Those three performers are just expert improvisers.
0
SPEAKER_00
I ve done a little improv, but I don t really do it, mostly because it was so hard.
0
SPEAKER_00
When you hear it so smooth like that, I guess there s editing, but I was thinking it sounds so conversational.
0
SPEAKER_00
that I was thinking, where are they cutting?
0
SPEAKER_00
Because it s just boom, boom, boom, boom.
0
SPEAKER_00
And in so many throwaway lines that are just like, and he s like, well, I eat breakfast with my mom.
0
SPEAKER_00
She comes over in the morning and makes me my cereal.
0
SPEAKER_00
And does that bother you?
0
SPEAKER_00
And the wife s like, well, I do sleep in.
0
SPEAKER_00
I usually get up at 9, 9.30, 10, 10.30.
0
SPEAKER_00
That s such a funny answer.
0
9, 9.30, 10, 10.30.
0
SPEAKER_00
But there s so many little texture jokes like that that keep it going aside from the overall feel that is a funny
1
SPEAKER_02
idea of who s the queen of the house, and he suggests that his mom could be co-mom of their babies.
1
SPEAKER_01
I think is that what they call it?
1
SPEAKER_01
I love the way that the laugh points just sneak up on you because the rhythm you re using for the therapy is so accurate.
1
SPEAKER_01
There s a there s a kind of a it s almost like a dialect in a way.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I think I think it s really I love therapy to Dana.
1
SPEAKER_00
I love it.
1
SPEAKER_00
I revere it.
1
SPEAKER_00
And I m in a lot of it.
1
SPEAKER_00
And I m I love watching couples therapy and listening to couples therapy, too.
1
SPEAKER_00
I m always fascinated by how vulnerable people will be.
1
SPEAKER_00
publicly.
1
SPEAKER_00
It s like, whoa, I can t believe they re sharing this with the whole world.
1
SPEAKER_00
But I could listen to it forever.
1
SPEAKER_00
And I love podcasts.
1
SPEAKER_00
By the way, I love your podcasts.
1
SPEAKER_00
I ve listened to almost every episode.
1
SPEAKER_02
You know probably every single person on the podcast.
1
SPEAKER_01
That s crazy.
1
SPEAKER_00
So great that I m getting a chance to do it.
1
SPEAKER_00
I m so grateful.
1
SPEAKER_01
You made my day.
1
SPEAKER_00
I love it.
1
SPEAKER_00
And, you know, we all we are SNL, like you said, many times is kind of the it s like you were in very specific, like special forces.
1
SPEAKER_00
And you all just want to kind of share stories about the nightmares that you continue to have about it.
1
SPEAKER_00
20 years.
1
SPEAKER_02
It s all poor, poor, rich people.
1
SPEAKER_02
It is funny.
1
SPEAKER_02
We re like special ops.
1
SPEAKER_02
We say war.
1
SPEAKER_02
And then people say, don t say that.
1
SPEAKER_02
So we changed it.
1
SPEAKER_00
You re right.
1
SPEAKER_02
I should say it to SWAT team.
1
SPEAKER_01
I said it once here.
1
SPEAKER_01
It s like the Marine.
1
SPEAKER_01
And I and I backed off of it in 10 seconds.
1
SPEAKER_01
I said, please don t write me any letters because it s fun to say that.
1
SPEAKER_01
I did not mean to equivocate it in that way.
1
SPEAKER_01
I would just say if someone is unknown, maybe in an improv group like yourself, and is suddenly on national TV, and then we all, as an audience, we, oh, what s her name?
1
SPEAKER_01
Amy Poehler.
1
SPEAKER_01
Oh, she s getting really good.
1
SPEAKER_01
It s like a reality show.
1
SPEAKER_01
Oh, she s really confident.
1
SPEAKER_01
Now she s right.
1
SPEAKER_02
Lots of opinions.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_00
Lots of opinions.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_00
Message boards.
1
SPEAKER_00
Like I started when message boards came out.
1
SPEAKER_00
So it wasn t, it wasn t, um, there wasn t any Twitter or anything yet, but it was these message boards that used to spring up like the next day.
1
SPEAKER_00
And so I started around when I, 2001 Tevo, remember Tevo came into play.
1
SPEAKER_00
So it was like, Ooh, I could fast forward SNL for the first time.
1
SPEAKER_00
Like that was, yeah.
1
SPEAKER_01
What a million dollar idea.
1
SPEAKER_01
I m not so sure that s a good thing, Amy.
1
SPEAKER_01
No, I talked to TiVo.
1
SPEAKER_01
We d rather have them to like watch the show as opposed to... I mean, I ll go for a pause, but that s... You record it and then you like never really watch it.
1
SPEAKER_01
Everyone has a Lorne.
1
SPEAKER_01
You might as well do your 10 seconds of Lorne because you have to have a Lorne.
1
SPEAKER_00
Oh, my God.
1
SPEAKER_00
I love it.
1
SPEAKER_00
My Lorne is not great, but yes, it s very.
1
SPEAKER_01
There is no there s no.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, it s very.
1
SPEAKER_00
My Lorne is a little more paternal, which is like when he comes on the floor right before a sketch and goes like, do you like these wine glasses or these, you know, is this table look right for you?
1
SPEAKER_00
And you re just so nervous.
1
SPEAKER_00
You re about to do a sketch in a restaurant.
1
SPEAKER_00
You re like, what?
1
SPEAKER_00
Are you happy with the wine glasses?
1
SPEAKER_00
OK, OK.
1
SPEAKER_02
You re like, I mean, on the table in the sketch.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_02
They re like five, four.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_01
My first season, I don t know if he did that later.
1
SPEAKER_01
It was a glass of Chardonnay and he would be outside because then he went under the bleachers.
1
SPEAKER_01
Well, that was for the dress show mostly.
1
SPEAKER_01
But during the live show, you re so fucking terrified.
1
SPEAKER_01
And Lawrence went around the glass of wine acting.
1
SPEAKER_01
So like, there s not a live TV show going on.
1
SPEAKER_01
It was just amazing to watch him try to, by osmosis, calm us down, I guess, you know?
1
SPEAKER_02
I m saying I m waiting to get pushed out on update in that chair.
1
SPEAKER_02
I m in the dark and he s like, do you know who s winning the Yankees?
1
SPEAKER_02
I m like, right now, I don t know.
1
SPEAKER_02
I got I have to look at the cards.
1
SPEAKER_01
It s a mind trick, the non sequitur to distract you from the chair turns.
1
SPEAKER_01
And there s 10 million people watching you.
1
SPEAKER_01
Go ahead, Amy.
1
SPEAKER_00
No, I was going to say when you guys talk about your experiences at the show, too, on on your on this podcast,
1
SPEAKER_00
it kind of feels like the before times because my first show was two weeks after 9-11.
1
SPEAKER_00
So for like the first three years or so at the show, you know, the chardonnay was gone.
1
SPEAKER_00
It was very much like
1
SPEAKER_00
serious business to keep comedy afloat you know it was very like will we ever laugh again and how can we do comedy and you know New York is under attack it was all this like how do we make fun of politics like it was just this like slow build back to get to
1
SPEAKER_00
Palin and Hillary by the end of that run, but it took so long to even... I can just remember starting that job and being like, my dream job, I was 30 years old.
1
SPEAKER_00
I started, I was like, here we go.
1
SPEAKER_00
And then all that happened and it was like, will we ever laugh again?
1
SPEAKER_00
That was basically the headline.
1
SPEAKER_00
And it was like, could we though, just a little bit, because I m here now.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you know, it was it was intense.
1
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I I ve been dreaming and working toward this for my whole life.
1
SPEAKER_01
Could I do something funny?
1
SPEAKER_02
How could you do such a stupid sketch when what s going on in the world?
1
SPEAKER_02
And you re like, oh, well, this is the idea is to get away
1
SPEAKER_01
But it went on, to your point, it went on for a long time of the idea of when will the next attack come and where really are we?
1
SPEAKER_01
So there was a really anxious period.
1
SPEAKER_01
I don t know when it finally would kind of, I guess 2004?
1
SPEAKER_00
It felt like 2003, 2004.
1
SPEAKER_00
But don t forget, you know, there was like anthrax in the building when we were there.
1
SPEAKER_00
It was like, you know, it was wild.
1
SPEAKER_00
But I think it felt around 2000.
1
SPEAKER_00
I had one year of overlap with Will Ferrell and he did a sketch.
1
SPEAKER_00
I guess it must have been 2001, 2002, like about a guy who was really patriotic and he was wearing like, oh, yeah.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_01
And the hot tub.
1
SPEAKER_00
He was wearing a Speedo.
1
SPEAKER_02
He s going to work.
1
SPEAKER_02
I think Dan, I think it was Matt Piedmont might have wrote.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I think you re right.
1
SPEAKER_02
And he wears it.
1
SPEAKER_02
He has a he s very patriotic.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, yeah, that was a big one.
1
SPEAKER_01
It s very well the way he wore the Speedo, the way he s played his legs.
1
SPEAKER_01
I mean, he is he s brave or whatever you want to call it.
1
SPEAKER_01
He s just out there.
1
SPEAKER_01
But so that really broke the seal a little bit.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_00
And he had, you know, we had stopped doing any Bush stuff.
1
SPEAKER_00
We didn t do any politics during that time.
1
SPEAKER_02
Interesting.
1
SPEAKER_00
But that was like a big, silly, stupid, you know, guy in a Speedo sketch.
1
SPEAKER_00
And the audience really loved it.
1
SPEAKER_00
And you re like, okay, maybe
1
SPEAKER_00
Maybe this is going to be OK.
1
SPEAKER_00
Maybe so.
1
SPEAKER_00
But we did a bunch of dumb pop culture stuff because, you know, it was like Britney Spears.
1
SPEAKER_00
Snake Trainer was like a character I was trying to get on because because no one wanted to talk about news.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_01
So it was it was weird, but I kind of appreciate the big, silly ones more even later on.
1
SPEAKER_01
Big, dumb, whatever word you want to apply to them.
1
SPEAKER_01
broad, really just balls out funny where you want to get that I love Lucy kind of roll of a laugh.
1
SPEAKER_01
I got it with the dog on, it wasn t me, it was that sketch.
1
SPEAKER_01
Massive Head Moon Harry just unleashed a whole I love Lucy type of laughter because I was fighting with a dog over a fake head.
1
SPEAKER_01
Fake brains.
1
SPEAKER_01
But it seems like, just as an overview here for a second, you came on the scene and then by the time you left, you were just as good as anyone had ever done that show.
1
SPEAKER_01
I believe, and I say this to people with all sincerity, the thing you did with Maya, the Long Island ladies.
1
SPEAKER_01
You were both brilliant, and you were just so in the pocket of that character, rhythmically.
1
SPEAKER_01
I watched the immersion of that.
1
SPEAKER_01
It was just beautiful to watch, that sketch.
1
SPEAKER_00
Thanks, Dana.
1
SPEAKER_00
That means a lot.
1
SPEAKER_00
That sketch, that felt like we could have only done it when we were seniors.
1
SPEAKER_00
We were relaxed enough to do it.
1
SPEAKER_00
We wrote that with Emily Spivey, the great Emily Spivey.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, we hear about her a lot.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you should have her on this.
1
SPEAKER_00
She would be an incredible guest.
1
SPEAKER_00
And yeah, we improvised a lot of that.
1
SPEAKER_00
It was just a lot of overlap.
1
SPEAKER_00
The cards were kind of loose, and we kind of knew what we were going to say, but not really.
1
SPEAKER_00
And I don t think we would have been able to do that in the first couple of years.
1
SPEAKER_00
I know I wouldn t have.
1
SPEAKER_00
I would have been too
1
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s what I mean.
1
SPEAKER_01
I find that a lot.
1
SPEAKER_01
There s maybe Eddie Murphy, the most extreme the other way, like as confident in day one, apparently.
1
SPEAKER_01
And then there s people who have a pretty quick run-up, but then somebody that just goes and goes, and then the audience discovers you.
1
SPEAKER_01
And then it s, you know, could you, I mean, I don t want to put, you don t have to do that character for five seconds, but if you, what would she say to David and I right now?
1
SPEAKER_00
I mean, Well, like she s, you know, it s a very important time because it s sweater weather, like sweater weather s coming
2
SPEAKER_00
it s very, very, she s going to having a lot of hot flashes, and she enjoys the nip in the air.
2
SPEAKER_00
But we base those two ladies, we base those ladies off of ladies that were in really one woman who was in the hair department, Jodi Mancuso, who was running the hair department.
2
SPEAKER_00
She was like, Long Island, like, or Staten Island, I forget.
2
SPEAKER_00
Sorry, Jodi, if I forget.
2
SPEAKER_00
And she had like, she was very like, and like gave it to you straight and just like, come sit, talk, let s talk like she just had this
2
SPEAKER_00
chatty, fun energy that was kind of flirty, very maternal.
2
SPEAKER_00
And Maya and I used to just talk with her like that and talk like her.
2
SPEAKER_00
And mine was, my lady had a little bit, just because I m not particularly great with accents, my lady probably fell into like a little Boston at times, just because that s
2
SPEAKER_00
my hometown.
2
SPEAKER_00
But so we played Betty and Jody and they were just it was almost like those women that happen to have a TV show, but they weren t they were just chatting anyway.
2
SPEAKER_00
So we had a lot of fun where we would just the camera would just come up on us and we were already in conversation and the camera would pull away and we were still talking.
2
SPEAKER_00
So that was the kind of vibe it was.
2
SPEAKER_02
could be in a wasp from California.
2
SPEAKER_02
And then when I started going to New York and meeting characters in New York and they were recognizable in that sense of come sit, have coffee, please.
2
SPEAKER_02
How are you?
2
SPEAKER_02
It s very it s warm.
2
SPEAKER_02
It s extroverted.
2
SPEAKER_02
Everything is out in the open.
2
SPEAKER_02
I feel spilt this and that.
2
SPEAKER_02
But you guys just nailed it beautifully.
2
SPEAKER_02
I don t know.
2
SPEAKER_02
It just I see.
2
SPEAKER_01
I just saw it on Instagram.
2
SPEAKER_01
I mean, like, you know how they pull up old sketches.
2
SPEAKER_01
They just they start traveling around because it is sweater weather.
2
SPEAKER_01
So.
2
SPEAKER_01
I saw clips of that and it s kind of fun when things live on or they make a meme or something pops out.
2
SPEAKER_00
Oh, it s the best.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s so cool.
2
SPEAKER_01
And then you go, oh, something mattered.
2
SPEAKER_01
Something I did in the old days caught somewhere, you know.
2
SPEAKER_02
Totally.
2
SPEAKER_02
People ask me this sometimes, like, what kind of compliments do you like to get?
2
SPEAKER_02
And I always say specific ones.
2
SPEAKER_02
You know, I like that line and that thing.
2
SPEAKER_02
And so when you re out and about in the world, just what do people come up and say to you?
2
SPEAKER_02
Maybe they talk about some of your movies or certain sketches or.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s funny, you know, you can kind of tell, like the millennials love Parks and Rec like that was their show.
2
SPEAKER_00
And that s a show that like a lot of teenagers discovered during the pandemic.
2
SPEAKER_00
So there s a lot of millennial and Gen Z love for Parks and Rec.
2
SPEAKER_00
The Gen Xers and above know me more from SNL or, you know, more like movie or like hosting stuff.
2
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, like they kind of know that more, I think.
2
SPEAKER_00
But or like maybe they saw Mean Girls 25 years ago or something.
2
SPEAKER_00
But.
2
SPEAKER_01
Oh, right.
2
SPEAKER_00
But it kind of feels like I get a lot of nice women.
2
SPEAKER_00
That s like my demo is nice.
2
SPEAKER_00
You know, Tina and I are on tour right now, and we re having a blast.
2
SPEAKER_00
And like, we it s just like the nicest women just coming with their friends or their daughters, you know.
2
SPEAKER_00
So I get a lot of just like friendly women.
2
SPEAKER_00
So I m lucky that I don t get, you know, occasionally
2
SPEAKER_00
And I get mistaken all the time for other women, whether it s Tina or Dratch.
2
SPEAKER_00
They kind of mush us all together, which is fine with me.
2
SPEAKER_02
Really?
2
SPEAKER_00
But that happens sometimes too, but it s okay.
2
SPEAKER_02
Well, my wife is not a comedy fanatic or anything, but I told her that you and Tina were doing a show.
2
SPEAKER_02
She goes, oh, I would see that show.
2
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
2
SPEAKER_00
We re doing that show for your wife.
2
SPEAKER_02
I think that, well, she s a nice woman.
2
SPEAKER_02
I go back to that.
2
SPEAKER_02
She s a nice woman.
2
SPEAKER_02
The Golden Globes kind of cemented it.
2
SPEAKER_02
We saw you do an update.
2
SPEAKER_02
There s Tina.
2
SPEAKER_02
You guys have this connection.
2
SPEAKER_02
I assume really, truly, really good friends.
2
SPEAKER_02
and have the chemistry of Steve Martin and Martin Short.
2
SPEAKER_02
And so seeing that, it s like, well, this is going to be fun.
2
SPEAKER_02
Because when I think of you two, even though you did satirical jokes on Golden Globes, it was still always fun.
2
SPEAKER_02
I think that s a good brand to have.
2
SPEAKER_02
You re going to have fun.
2
SPEAKER_02
It s underrated.
2
SPEAKER_00
I think you re right.
2
SPEAKER_00
I think I don t know.
2
SPEAKER_00
I, I am in no way an expert in hosting things, but one thing I did learn really quick was from SNL too.
2
SPEAKER_00
Like if you don t look like you re relaxed or having fun, the audience gets very stressed.
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
2
SPEAKER_01
They re worried about it.
2
SPEAKER_00
I, when I see hosts and they re either nervous or stressed or even like coming in angry, like
2
SPEAKER_00
I don t know why I m here, like that kind of thing.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s like, oh, no, I get so stressed because you are hosting a party.
2
SPEAKER_00
You re supposed to look like you re having fun.
2
SPEAKER_00
Like it s a party.
2
SPEAKER_00
Like who cares?
2
SPEAKER_00
It s an award show.
2
SPEAKER_00
Who cares?
2
SPEAKER_01
You, you, Maya.
2
SPEAKER_01
It was you, Maya and Tina.
2
SPEAKER_01
Was that at the Academy Awards?
2
SPEAKER_00
But we didn t host it.
2
SPEAKER_01
We just like opened it because that was a good trick of like less pressure.
2
SPEAKER_01
They re not the host, but you re on longer than you should be.
2
SPEAKER_01
And you re just joke machine.
2
SPEAKER_01
And then everyone s like, fuck, where are these?
2
SPEAKER_01
Why aren t they here the whole time?
2
SPEAKER_01
It s so great.
2
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
2
SPEAKER_01
You don t have a month of lead up like, what are you going to do?
2
SPEAKER_01
What s so funny?
2
SPEAKER_00
Because, you know, those hosting gigs are a lot of work.
2
SPEAKER_00
They re hard.
2
SPEAKER_00
There are a lot of jokes to write and get through.
2
SPEAKER_00
And then also you can get, you can, you know, now they like are kind of, you can fall into traps and you can, people can get mad.
2
SPEAKER_00
And so you re like, Oh my God, forget it.
2
SPEAKER_01
Someone always has a problem with it.
2
SPEAKER_01
No matter what.
2
SPEAKER_02
I know it s okay.
2
SPEAKER_02
It s like when Billy Bob Thornton got his Emmy, I think he goes, uh, I m not going to say anything.
2
SPEAKER_02
Cause you can get in trouble.
2
SPEAKER_02
I m substituting Bill Clinton as Billy Bob Thornton.
2
SPEAKER_02
I apologize.
2
SPEAKER_02
I m not going to say anything because you can get in trouble for saying something these days.
2
SPEAKER_02
He just walked off, you know.
2
SPEAKER_02
But to the fun part, you might find this funny in a way because John Lovitz, I was the one who kept saying, John, you got to do standup.
2
SPEAKER_02
So I was kind of, I m no expert, but I m coaching him a little bit.
2
SPEAKER_02
I go, John, the one thing you always have to remember right before you go out, because you can forget
2
SPEAKER_02
just say to yourself, have fun.
2
SPEAKER_02
And he goes, I did it.
2
SPEAKER_02
I tried it.
2
SPEAKER_02
And then I started having more fun.
2
SPEAKER_02
And then I was getting bigger laughs, you know, John.
2
SPEAKER_02
So it s, it s an amazing thing, but sometimes you go, what is going on?
2
SPEAKER_02
I m not having fun.
2
SPEAKER_02
I forgot to have fun.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s the hardest.
2
SPEAKER_00
I think it s actually like the last piece.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s the hardest piece to learn because you re pushing or you re nervous or your head somewhere else.
2
SPEAKER_00
And then it Yeah, and then when you actually relax, the audience just relaxes with you.
2
SPEAKER_00
I mean, I learned a lot from Will Ferrell that way.
2
SPEAKER_00
And because I would watch him perform.
2
SPEAKER_00
And he had this
2
SPEAKER_00
like mischievous quality where he him and the audience were in on it together, you know, is kind of like this, this bemused quality of like, can you believe we re all here doing this stupid thing?
2
SPEAKER_00
And.
2
SPEAKER_00
It would, you know, just like the minute they see you sweat, it s it gets so stress free, they tighten up.
2
SPEAKER_02
This goes to therapy or something, but try not to try.
2
SPEAKER_02
Try not to push.
2
SPEAKER_02
Try not to be desperate.
2
SPEAKER_02
Try not to rush it.
2
SPEAKER_02
Take your time, but be in the pocket.
2
SPEAKER_02
And of course, when that voice goes silent, then you know you and Tina are just on a roll.
2
SPEAKER_00
Well, what do you guys do when... This rarely probably happens for you anymore, but let s say you re trying new material and it s not working.
2
SPEAKER_00
What do you do?
2
SPEAKER_00
Do you pull back?
2
SPEAKER_00
Do you pull back in that moment?
2
SPEAKER_00
Or do you put like, do you push?
2
SPEAKER_00
Because I ll tell you that what I have to work on is pulling back too hard and like getting sleepy.
2
SPEAKER_02
You joke isn t working and you go to sleep.
2
SPEAKER_02
I go to sleep.
2
SPEAKER_02
I go right to sleep.
2
SPEAKER_01
You recoil.
2
SPEAKER_01
You know, it s funny when I when something doesn t work, there s I had it happen on the road recently where the whole show is going well.
2
SPEAKER_01
And one joke doesn t click.
2
SPEAKER_01
And I go, I had to stop and go.
2
SPEAKER_01
Literally, no one bought that.
2
SPEAKER_01
Not one person.
2
SPEAKER_01
And it wasn t a couple of you.
2
SPEAKER_01
Everyone said no sale.
2
SPEAKER_01
And I feel like you re wrong on this one.
2
SPEAKER_01
And I m going to give you one freebie.
2
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
2
SPEAKER_01
And then they don t know what to make of that.
2
SPEAKER_01
They re like, well, you re mad at us.
2
SPEAKER_01
But it s like joke mad.
2
SPEAKER_01
But when something doesn t work in a regular set or if you re doing a set on TV, what happens to me is you get spooked like a horse because my brain goes, what happened?
2
SPEAKER_01
And I can t think of my next joke because I m it s preoccupied with what do I do?
2
SPEAKER_01
Why?
2
SPEAKER_01
Wait, should I even do the next one?
2
SPEAKER_01
What did it just?
2
SPEAKER_01
Did I say it wrong?
2
SPEAKER_01
And then you re like, that throws you.
2
SPEAKER_01
If you take one extra second.
2
SPEAKER_01
They think something s up.
2
SPEAKER_01
It s got to be just so smooth, like a play.
2
SPEAKER_01
Boom, boom, boom.
2
SPEAKER_02
I know.
2
SPEAKER_02
I have a bit in my act.
2
SPEAKER_02
I won t even say the bit, but whatever.
2
SPEAKER_02
It s sort of like two thirds the way, like you re trying to bring it to the barn, you know?
2
SPEAKER_02
And the last two times, it s not landing.
2
SPEAKER_02
And I know Jerry Seinfeld, who s this Bengali about this, check the setup, you know?
2
SPEAKER_02
The setup is...
3
SPEAKER_01
You know, I did this for Steve Marvin.
3
SPEAKER_01
Jerry s gonna do a live album on vinyl, and you re gonna see a picture of him on the cover, and it s called, Paperclips, Why?
3
SPEAKER_01
Just like that joke.
3
SPEAKER_01
Jerry, we love him.
3
SPEAKER_01
He s brilliant.
3
SPEAKER_01
I think sometimes you, when you first say it in a joke and you re kind of connected to it or a bit, and then you can get a little bored and you maybe drop just even part of the setup or stuff like that, because you re doing, are you actually out there solo in your show with Tina as well?
3
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, we do some sketch, we do stand-up, we do- Do you do update?
3
SPEAKER_03
Stuff together, we do update, we do, yeah.
3
SPEAKER_01
Really?
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh, great.
3
SPEAKER_01
So what s your first line?
3
SPEAKER_01
Ladies and gentlemen, here to do some stand-up for our show,
3
SPEAKER_01
is Amy Poehler!
3
SPEAKER_03
No way!
3
SPEAKER_01
Are you out of your mind?
3
SPEAKER_01
I thought your first line would be you d say what you d say what s up and then the name of the town.
3
SPEAKER_01
What s up Chicago?
3
SPEAKER_01
What s up Denver?
3
SPEAKER_01
That s a good first line.
3
SPEAKER_02
Here s my opener.
3
SPEAKER_02
I d be like this.
3
SPEAKER_02
Hey guys, Tina will be out in a minute.
3
SPEAKER_03
Just because I got it s funny that you say that.
3
SPEAKER_03
I m like, I m going to do a little stand up while Tina gets her IV drip.
3
SPEAKER_02
Well, I think we re Dana and I were talking before we brought you on because we re both on the road here and there.
3
SPEAKER_02
And there s so many things about the road that are so tricky and I see that, you know, it is true something about like
3
SPEAKER_02
The show is the fun part, obviously.
3
SPEAKER_02
And it s so hard just to get to their city.
3
SPEAKER_02
You just want to get high five like I got here.
3
SPEAKER_02
I m in the theater.
3
SPEAKER_02
Get in the hotel.
3
SPEAKER_02
And I don t I feel like shit.
3
SPEAKER_02
But here I go.
3
SPEAKER_02
Let s do this because you almost never feel great.
3
SPEAKER_02
And you re almost never like, well, that was easy.
3
SPEAKER_02
It s like this is problem, problem in the hotel and get there.
3
SPEAKER_02
And what s backstage?
3
SPEAKER_02
There s so many interesting questions we were thinking of with you guys.
3
SPEAKER_02
When do you go on?
3
SPEAKER_03
Oh, I know.
3
SPEAKER_03
It s so fun because you re right.
3
SPEAKER_03
Every different theater and space has like a vibe and it has like the guy that s in charge, like the one that- Character.
3
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
3
SPEAKER_03
There s always a character.
3
SPEAKER_03
It s like, oh, I can t answer that.
3
SPEAKER_03
You have to talk to Dan about that.
3
SPEAKER_03
And you re like, okay, where s Dan?
3
SPEAKER_03
Like it s always- Dan doesn t come in today.
3
SPEAKER_03
Dan s always around.
3
SPEAKER_03
Dan doesn t come in.
3
SPEAKER_03
Dan zooms in from home.
3
SPEAKER_01
My guy s usually named Dan as well.
3
SPEAKER_01
I don t know if he travels a lot.
3
SPEAKER_01
Do you do a sound check?
3
SPEAKER_03
We do.
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh, you have to have a lot of stuff going on.
3
SPEAKER_01
You got a montage of greatest hits or whatever, and you ve got whatever.
3
SPEAKER_01
You have a piano player and stuff like that?
3
SPEAKER_03
No, we have some recorded music stuff, but we don t have a live, yeah.
3
SPEAKER_03
And you sing together?
3
SPEAKER_03
Live piano player.
3
SPEAKER_03
But it s, what s that?
3
SPEAKER_01
Do you sing a song together?
3
SPEAKER_00
Maybe.
3
SPEAKER_02
You have a good voice, Dana.
3
SPEAKER_02
Have you heard her sing in the beginning of the podcast?
3
SPEAKER_00
Tonight, before I go to sleep, I m going to try to figure out what can t Amy Poehler do.
3
SPEAKER_01
What do you do to relax your giant brain?
3
SPEAKER_03
well i i really like um the the water like that calms me down i like swimming and in a pool ocean water ocean lake and swimming i like can you swim no i can t but i mean
3
SPEAKER_01
I go to a hotel pool, and I go freestyle, and I go the length of the pool, and I m completely wiped out.
3
SPEAKER_01
I m sprinting, but I don t know it.
3
SPEAKER_01
There is a whole technique to it, but you ve learned it, right?
3
SPEAKER_03
How to actually- I think if I need to get regulated in my nervous system, water does help me, whether even if it s a bath or just getting in some water.
3
SPEAKER_03
But before a show,
3
SPEAKER_03
you know I m kind of used to it s it s funny when I would do shows as an improviser and like sketch comedian with stand-ups I was always surprised
3
SPEAKER_03
that there wasn t a lot of chit-chat.
3
SPEAKER_03
You know, there was, stand-ups were just kind of trying, like walking around, talking or with their headphones, like thinking about their set and really, really, and frankly, trying to remember it, which is half the battle.
3
SPEAKER_03
And you, and with improv and sketch, you know, it s like, you want to just like keep doing bits up until you go on stage.
3
SPEAKER_03
It s like, you want to just like make a connection with the people you re performing with.
3
SPEAKER_03
And so,
3
SPEAKER_03
I kind of tend to want to just chit chat and talk and not overthink things.
3
SPEAKER_03
But now that I m older, sometimes I just want to do some light stretching.
3
SPEAKER_03
Just some light stretching so I don t...
3
SPEAKER_03
full of hammy.
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh, definitely.
3
SPEAKER_01
You can t go high.
3
SPEAKER_01
And then your arms like, oh, sorry.
3
SPEAKER_01
You know, I mean, I try to do a wide squat and make sure because I might get in that position or move around, stretch your calves.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
3
SPEAKER_01
Have you ever had any a physical thing or cut yourself on stage?
3
SPEAKER_03
Oh, my God.
3
SPEAKER_03
Yes.
3
SPEAKER_03
I just well, I m just getting over this thing.
3
SPEAKER_03
I talk about it on stage.
3
SPEAKER_03
I m just getting over this thing, which is so embarrassing.
3
SPEAKER_03
It sounds like a it sounds like it sounds like a bad cocktail.
3
SPEAKER_03
But I had this thing this year called frozen shoulder.
3
SPEAKER_01
Know all about it, yes.
3
SPEAKER_03
I bet your wife, like, was it your wife that went through it?
3
SPEAKER_01
No, no, it was our mutual manager, I think.
3
SPEAKER_03
Okay.
3
SPEAKER_01
Had a frozen shoulder, yeah.
3
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, I feel- What does it do?
3
SPEAKER_03
It s the weirdest thing, it comes out of nowhere and it s like, anecdotally, I find it s mostly women of my age, but it s just like inflammation and suddenly you just like can t lift your arm all the way up.
3
SPEAKER_03
And so it s this, it just feels like you re like, you just feel really fucking old.
3
SPEAKER_03
You just feel like, oh, fucking hell, what is this?
3
SPEAKER_03
And it ll take about a year.
3
SPEAKER_03
And you re just like, what, a year?
3
SPEAKER_03
And it s proven to be about a year.
3
SPEAKER_03
So it sucked.
3
SPEAKER_02
They re just making up names for old things.
3
SPEAKER_02
Frozen shoulder sounds good.
3
SPEAKER_02
And you re like, well, is it a real thing or I m just falling apart?
3
SPEAKER_03
It s a real, real thing.
3
SPEAKER_01
I was doing a podcast with David, I never even said this before, we ve done a few live and then my, I think it was my left foot, my toes splayed out in a spasm and I was in massive pain, but I just was riding it out, just riding it out, we re interviewing someone.
3
SPEAKER_01
Spade, take it.
3
SPEAKER_01
And I m like, and it doesn t happen to me all the time.
3
SPEAKER_01
They just, the toes went out and got really angry.
3
SPEAKER_01
As soon as it was over, I just walked around.
3
SPEAKER_01
It was fine.
3
SPEAKER_01
But we have to, we re supposed to do all this freaking stuff all day long, pulling and stretching and Pilates, all this stuff to keep us together, you know?
3
SPEAKER_03
So I did.
3
SPEAKER_03
I know.
3
SPEAKER_03
And I was so much younger when I was on SNL.
3
SPEAKER_03
And I think about how much I just,
3
SPEAKER_03
partied and just walked, like I didn t do, I didn t worry about any of it.
3
SPEAKER_03
I just wasn t even thinking about any of it.
3
SPEAKER_03
I wasn t thinking about collagen.
3
SPEAKER_03
I wasn t thinking about water.
3
SPEAKER_01
Nothing.
3
SPEAKER_03
Nope.
3
SPEAKER_03
Wasn t even thinking about water.
3
SPEAKER_01
Did we know, do we, did we, I know I look at you see picture yourself cause you re in show business ago.
3
SPEAKER_01
Damn, did I know how cute I was?
3
SPEAKER_01
Did we know how young we were, or is it all wasted on young?
3
SPEAKER_01
Who said that, Cole Porter?
3
SPEAKER_01
I don t know.
3
SPEAKER_02
I didn t have a glass of water during SNL.
3
SPEAKER_02
I was there six years.
3
SPEAKER_02
That just wasn t the thing that everyone, I didn t know what carbs were.
3
SPEAKER_02
I ate fucking pasta every day.
3
SPEAKER_02
Wally and Joseph s ate pizza, and I always felt shitty.
3
SPEAKER_02
I never put anything together.
3
SPEAKER_02
I m like, what is it, what is it?
3
SPEAKER_02
I don t have the Rubik s cube to figure this out.
3
SPEAKER_02
All I eat is carbs, no water, and Diet Coke.
3
SPEAKER_02
And my body is so sore at Amy, when I, every day, it s like my shoulder s going.
3
SPEAKER_02
I open a cart or they re like, what?
3
SPEAKER_02
I m like, I do this every day.
3
SPEAKER_02
And it s like, oh, what are you doing?
3
SPEAKER_02
Like it s, it forgets overnight, I m doing basic things.
3
SPEAKER_03
I know.
3
SPEAKER_03
Well, you know what?
3
SPEAKER_03
You know what has helped me with this?
3
SPEAKER_03
And I know this is probably like people listening are like, oh my God, be quiet.
3
SPEAKER_02
How old are you guys?
3
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
3
SPEAKER_03
But you know what I ve been doing is I ve been doing cold dips and they ve changed the game.
3
SPEAKER_03
Yes.
3
SPEAKER_03
I do cold dips and it changed the game.
3
SPEAKER_01
because that s a big deal.
3
SPEAKER_01
Now, do you do it in a in a bathtub with ice in it?
3
SPEAKER_01
You do it.
3
SPEAKER_01
You take the or is it in a pool or a lake or where are you?
3
SPEAKER_03
I have it like I have a cold dip tub.
3
SPEAKER_01
OK, cold dip.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
3
SPEAKER_01
OK.
3
SPEAKER_03
Like a tub that I keep cold.
3
SPEAKER_03
So and I have like a sauna, a little hot sauna.
3
SPEAKER_03
So I do 15 minutes of the sauna and then I plunge in the cold and it helps a lot.
3
SPEAKER_02
David inflammation.
3
SPEAKER_03
Yes.
3
SPEAKER_02
I think you and Tina should do 10 minutes in a cold plunge doing update on stage.
3
SPEAKER_02
Just bring out the ice.
3
SPEAKER_03
I would love that.
3
SPEAKER_03
I think our endorphins would be flying.
3
SPEAKER_02
Sponsors.
3
SPEAKER_01
I m in an undisclosed location, but I have a pool for the first time in a long time and don t heat it.
3
SPEAKER_01
I like it as cold as I can get it now for that very reason.
3
SPEAKER_01
Wake up.
3
SPEAKER_01
It s amazing if you get into a cold lake, because I always look at it as a lake that s really too warm, how you really suffer for about 10 seconds.
3
SPEAKER_01
But if you re moving, all of a sudden you re like, oh, it s fine.
3
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, that s the thing about getting
4
SPEAKER_00
there is like forced austerity.
4
SPEAKER_00
It s like, what can I do to myself that a doctor is not telling me to do, but that I can do to torture myself like I have the privilege of cold dipping or like I only eat apples after five p.m.
4
SPEAKER_00
And it s like, why is like just that s what I m doing now.
4
SPEAKER_01
Like it s just it s got to be good.
4
SPEAKER_01
I know I m trying something.
4
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, well, it s it s it s always nice.
4
SPEAKER_02
You get a blood test and stuff and you re wondering, well, did they find some doctors talking to you like this?
4
SPEAKER_02
Fine.
4
SPEAKER_02
It s good.
4
SPEAKER_02
Everything s OK.
4
SPEAKER_01
So my guy, my guy looks at my blood test.
4
SPEAKER_01
I sit there and he goes, hmm.
4
SPEAKER_01
Then he goes like this.
4
SPEAKER_01
Don t love that.
4
SPEAKER_02
You know, the worst thing, the worst thing about you here from a doctor is I went to a dentist because I had a toothache.
4
SPEAKER_02
This is what we re going to talk about.
4
SPEAKER_02
The guy comes in and he actually said, he actually said, wow.
4
SPEAKER_02
When he looked at my mouth, he said, wow.
4
SPEAKER_02
I said, wow.
4
SPEAKER_02
Wow.
4
SPEAKER_02
Wow.
4
SPEAKER_02
Wow.
4
SPEAKER_02
Wow.
4
SPEAKER_01
He said it like, oh, he said it like walking.
4
SPEAKER_00
He said it like walking.
4
SPEAKER_00
Wow.
4
SPEAKER_00
Wow.
4
SPEAKER_00
Wow.
4
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_01
Three.
4
SPEAKER_01
Amy, I just said someone were you in a walking family?
4
SPEAKER_01
I never saw that.
4
SPEAKER_01
I said to my friend, I go, look at this ridiculous.
4
SPEAKER_02
Oh, you all were walking in the sketch, right?
4
SPEAKER_00
Yes.
4
SPEAKER_00
And that was so fun because, you know, I think I I am.
4
SPEAKER_00
I benefited from low expectations.
4
SPEAKER_00
I don t think anyone expects me to pull out a good walk-in, but I was playing a little kid, like a little girl who was doing a walk-in.
4
SPEAKER_00
And I had had a friend who had told me a story about Christopher Walken and that, you know, he went to, he was on set one time and he was like, you know, are there any ghosts here?
4
SPEAKER_00
You know, this place is spook.
4
SPEAKER_00
He kept saying it s spooky.
4
SPEAKER_00
It was such a funny word to say.
4
SPEAKER_00
So I got to say ghosts and spooky.
4
SPEAKER_00
And that was, yeah, that was enough.
4
SPEAKER_01
Did he care at all?
4
SPEAKER_00
He, he was one of the most interesting hosts.
4
SPEAKER_00
because he was really, really, you know, no surprise, eccentric dude.
4
SPEAKER_00
So he was really comfortable with silence.
4
SPEAKER_00
So, you know, most people, when you re just waiting around to run the scene again, you re just sitting on the floor, like you chit chat, like, but he would want to just sit quietly
4
SPEAKER_00
But between each, you know, so he he might have been the longest I ve ever gone seated next to someone and not talking with five, six, seven minutes.
4
SPEAKER_00
It would just be me and him and we wouldn t talk.
4
SPEAKER_00
And it became like a contest in my own mind to see how long we could go.
4
SPEAKER_00
And he was he was fine with it.
4
SPEAKER_00
He was fine with it.
4
SPEAKER_01
Can everyone shut up?
4
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, he was super, super talented and very, very.
4
SPEAKER_01
I swear he s so interesting.
4
SPEAKER_01
He s riveting.
4
SPEAKER_02
The first sketch, I don t know what it was, maybe a church chat or something.
4
SPEAKER_02
Anyway, we did it all.
4
SPEAKER_02
We rehearsed it.
4
SPEAKER_02
But on air, he never looked at me.
4
SPEAKER_02
He just looked straight at the cue cards and read it.
4
SPEAKER_02
And it worked.
4
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_02
And it was funnier, you know.
4
SPEAKER_00
I heard a rumor that he takes out, I don t know if this is true, but that he takes out all the punctuation in his scripts.
4
SPEAKER_02
Wouldn t surprise me because his rhythm is so specific that might get him out of his rhythm.
4
SPEAKER_02
Don t like to pause in ways like that.
4
SPEAKER_02
I mean, John Lovitz again, my friend John, he s the kind of guy that goes, is it you?
4
SPEAKER_02
Are you making up that dialect?
4
SPEAKER_02
Is that the way you really talk?
4
SPEAKER_02
And he said, walk and just started laughing.
4
SPEAKER_02
You re making it up, right?
4
SPEAKER_01
Oh, that s funny.
4
SPEAKER_00
Well, that s funny.
4
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_00
He seemed like he had a good sense of humor about himself.
4
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_02
And who knows?
4
SPEAKER_02
You know, there s certain actors who just extenuate their rhythms as they become film stars over the years, like Al Pacino when he feels like it.
4
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_02
And Walken, too.
4
SPEAKER_02
He was in that Woody Allen movie as the psycho driver.
4
SPEAKER_02
It was in the set.
4
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_02
First time I saw it.
4
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_01
You know, and he goes, sometimes I like to turn the car.
4
SPEAKER_01
I think of turning into the headlights.
4
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_01
And he goes, well, I wouldn t on this trip maybe put a pin in that.
4
SPEAKER_02
Well, you know, it s like a crazy just when as soon as you drop me off, you can indulge your piccadillos if you want to go into that and get some rhubarb and, you know, writing.
4
SPEAKER_02
But yeah, he said just one of the thrills of doing Saturday Night Live is just doing sketch comedy with someone like this for walking.
4
SPEAKER_00
And, you know, seeing him in The Deer Hunter, I just feel like, you know, growing up in the 70s, like I just saw every movie way too young.
4
SPEAKER_00
I was so many images.
4
SPEAKER_02
You saw that at what?
4
SPEAKER_00
Oh, I can t even imagine.
4
SPEAKER_00
I think I was seven.
4
SPEAKER_00
And it was like I learned about.
4
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I learned about Vietnam.
4
SPEAKER_00
I learned about prisoners of war.
4
SPEAKER_00
I learned about, you know, Russian roulette.
4
SPEAKER_00
I learned it all from Christopher Walken.
4
SPEAKER_00
And it was like, you know, and then I went to first grade like that.
4
SPEAKER_00
I got it.
4
SPEAKER_01
I m having first grade, guys.
4
SPEAKER_01
I m tired.
4
SPEAKER_01
I was at the deer hunter last night.
4
SPEAKER_02
That they were getting slapped in the face in Vietnam.
4
SPEAKER_01
Now they re the exorcists.
4
SPEAKER_02
And they re forced to play Russian roulette and they would slap them and say, and slap them.
4
SPEAKER_02
And I don t know what that word meant in Vietnamese, but it s one of the most riveting, darkest scenes in film history.
4
SPEAKER_02
I saw the reefers with Steve McQueen when I was a little, I saw Bonnie and Clyde.
4
SPEAKER_02
when I was like 11, it s a little tamer, little tamer.
4
SPEAKER_02
But there was a sex scene.
4
SPEAKER_02
It was a little, you know.
4
SPEAKER_02
So but yeah, you ve seen those 70s badass movies as a little girl.
4
SPEAKER_00
We and you know, I was the generation that got like HBO and MTV like in our house and no one was paying attention.
4
SPEAKER_00
So suddenly you just there are movies on that you should not.
4
SPEAKER_00
I should not have been watching.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s just that, yeah, no one knows.
4
SPEAKER_01
Just the next movie on.
4
SPEAKER_01
And everyone s gone.
4
SPEAKER_01
You re like, oh, what s this?
4
SPEAKER_01
Oh, the omen.
4
SPEAKER_00
Yep.
4
SPEAKER_00
The Omen.
4
SPEAKER_00
Let s see what this is about.
4
SPEAKER_01
Oh, this might be fun.
4
SPEAKER_02
Hopefully, I hope you both didn t see this movie because it stayed with me and disturbed me very much.
4
SPEAKER_02
And I think it s Dustin Hoffman.
4
SPEAKER_02
I know it s Dustin Hoffman.
4
SPEAKER_02
It s the first Straw Dogs.
4
SPEAKER_02
Look it up, kids.
4
SPEAKER_01
I don t even want to talk about it.
4
SPEAKER_01
Fucking Lovett sent me that the other day.
4
SPEAKER_01
Is that crazy?
4
SPEAKER_01
He sent me a preview.
4
SPEAKER_01
Watch this movie.
4
SPEAKER_02
Straw Dogs with Dustin Hoffman?
4
SPEAKER_01
Yes.
4
SPEAKER_02
Is that weird?
4
SPEAKER_02
He s brilliant, but it is...
4
SPEAKER_02
Dark.
4
SPEAKER_00
Oh, I was just watching Midnight Cowboy the other day.
4
SPEAKER_00
They had a showing of it in New York.
4
SPEAKER_00
And I was like, oh, I love Midnight Cowboy.
4
SPEAKER_00
I love Dustin Hoffman.
4
SPEAKER_00
And I love John Boyd.
4
SPEAKER_00
And then I m like, oh, my God, I forgot this giant, horrible.
4
SPEAKER_00
you know, assault scene.
4
SPEAKER_00
There s so many, you know, there s so much assault in that movie, like flashbacks of what happens to Jon Voight s character and his girlfriend.
4
SPEAKER_00
And I just like, I forget with 70s movies, you just be cruising along and then there d be like a really violent scene that you re just, oh no.
4
SPEAKER_00
And when now I m the mother of teenagers and I m like, oh, you should watch this movie.
4
SPEAKER_00
And then there s just the scene that s always, oh, I forgot this scene was in this movie.
4
SPEAKER_00
It s brutal.
4
SPEAKER_01
I even got, I got scared at Tommy Dana.
4
SPEAKER_01
I was young, and my brother took me, and the gypsy acid queen, and then she threw acid at his face, and there was fire at the beginning, and it burned his face, and I was like, and I go, I have a stomachache, and I went to the lobby, and then I never came back.
4
SPEAKER_01
Cause I got scared.
4
SPEAKER_01
They go, what s up?
4
SPEAKER_01
I go, no, I m fine.
4
SPEAKER_01
I just have some stuff to do out here.
4
SPEAKER_01
Literally nothing to do.
4
SPEAKER_02
What s the first, have you showed a movie to your, to your kids where it blew their mind?
4
SPEAKER_02
It was kind of satisfying.
4
SPEAKER_02
Cause at one point, I don t remember how old they were.
4
SPEAKER_02
This is my example.
4
SPEAKER_02
I put on jaws for them.
4
SPEAKER_02
And maybe they were sort of 12, 14, whatever.
4
SPEAKER_02
Okay, see you later, kids.
4
SPEAKER_02
So I come back 10 minutes later and they re not moving, they re just staring.
4
SPEAKER_02
They just hit him at the right, like, oh man, this is amazing.
4
SPEAKER_02
So that was mine.
4
SPEAKER_00
I have two boys, they really like a lot of sci-fi, you know, action adventure stuff, but they, I remember when they were really young, Willy Wonka was the first one that I was like, I think you re going to love this.
4
SPEAKER_00
And they loved it.
4
SPEAKER_00
And I felt really, and as far as comedy, like it, you know what, you don t love what your mom likes.
4
SPEAKER_00
Like your mom is lame.
4
SPEAKER_00
Like you don t want to like what your mom likes.
4
SPEAKER_00
But so I almost had to let them discover SNL on their own.
4
SPEAKER_00
And they re at the age now, they re 13 and 15, where they re at that age where they re like, I wonder what SNL is going to do about this.
4
SPEAKER_00
Like, that s what, you know, and, you know, definitely their favorite anchors are Jost and Che.
4
SPEAKER_00
And they, of course, and they just don t want to watch.
4
SPEAKER_00
They barely want to watch stuff I m in.
4
SPEAKER_00
It s like, it s embarrassing.
4
SPEAKER_00
Like it s their mom.
4
SPEAKER_00
They want to watch their mom on TV.
4
SPEAKER_01
Have you recommended comedies that they give the thumbs down like that you grew up with?
4
SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah.
4
SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah.
4
SPEAKER_00
There s been so many things where I m like, that s funny.
4
SPEAKER_00
Now that is you should watch that.
4
SPEAKER_00
That s funny.
4
SPEAKER_01
Oh, that s funny.
4
SPEAKER_02
Mom, you got to check this.
5
SPEAKER_01
out.
5
SPEAKER_01
This is really funny, mom.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_02
And I m always like, turn that off.
5
SPEAKER_02
That that guy is.
5
SPEAKER_02
But I remember the Simpsons was a first crossover where we could all watch it and they were kind of learning how to structure a joke.
5
SPEAKER_02
And and they and, you know, I was laughing, too.
5
SPEAKER_02
But
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, it s always that that group on SNL, for example, when you re 12 or 13.
5
SPEAKER_02
And, you know, not to make you feel old, Dana, but that was you for me, which was me, too.
5
SPEAKER_01
I don t.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I feel terrific.
5
SPEAKER_01
I m the youngest I ve ever been at this particular.
5
SPEAKER_02
Your toes, your toes are not spasming at all.
5
SPEAKER_02
Everything is.
5
SPEAKER_01
No, no, nothing is spasmed during.
5
SPEAKER_01
And if they were spasming, I would cover for it.
5
SPEAKER_01
I would just get kind of quiet on the zoom.
5
SPEAKER_01
He d go like this slunk down.
5
SPEAKER_01
A little bit, I d be like that.
5
SPEAKER_00
Right in the frame, come like this.
5
SPEAKER_01
And Amy would go to herself, is he spasming right now?
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_01
Is he?
5
SPEAKER_01
No, I feel good.
5
SPEAKER_01
I do a lot of countermeasures for Asia.
5
SPEAKER_01
I hydrate a lot.
5
SPEAKER_02
Oh, congrats.
5
SPEAKER_00
You know, Dana, sometimes I think, you know, cause we all write and we all write comedy and write this and whatever.
5
SPEAKER_00
And sometimes not just obviously comedies, but I ll watch a show and I ll be like, this is so fucking complicated.
5
SPEAKER_00
I am not even in the same genre.
5
SPEAKER_00
I m not a writer because the fact they have so many levels to these things.
5
SPEAKER_00
And I go, what is this dog shit I write?
5
SPEAKER_00
Why am I called a writer?
5
SPEAKER_00
This is ridiculous.
5
SPEAKER_00
I shouldn t even be in the guild.
5
SPEAKER_00
Well, we just do bite-sized silly stuff every week.
5
SPEAKER_01
I know, it s goofy.
5
SPEAKER_01
Comedians don t really get awards.
5
SPEAKER_01
They generally don t win Oscars.
5
SPEAKER_01
And we don t have the American Comedy Awards anymore.
5
SPEAKER_02
But you know what, you guys will be the right people to talk to about this.
5
SPEAKER_02
What irritates me so much, though, is that once a year, at least, there s someone that we would all consider genuinely funny, who gives a performance that s really good, good acting performance.
5
SPEAKER_02
And people are always like, wow.
5
SPEAKER_02
And I m like, are you, do you, like, I think acting and comedy are so combined.
5
SPEAKER_02
They re so close, you know, like you, one must be a good actor to sell a bit, tell a joke, to like, there s, I m just, I m always surprised that people are surprised that funny people can be good actors.
5
SPEAKER_02
You know, so rarely are good actors funny, but, but funny people are often very good actors and,
5
SPEAKER_02
I always think it s just I think I don t think they get I don t think people get I don t think 20 people.
5
SPEAKER_01
It s such a rare commodity.
5
SPEAKER_01
But if we were if comedy was outlawed, I would love to do drama or do do kind of realistic acting.
5
SPEAKER_01
But it s this is what I do best.
5
SPEAKER_01
I guess it s just a rare, rare thing.
5
SPEAKER_00
And good comedy performances don t really get the old Oscars and stuff.
5
SPEAKER_00
You see like somebody you re not saying us just saying other people that are great at it and they do a great performance.
5
SPEAKER_00
It s not even considered.
5
SPEAKER_01
No, it s crazy.
5
SPEAKER_01
There s a reason they say, well, who said this?
5
SPEAKER_01
Dying is easy.
5
SPEAKER_01
Comedy is hard.
5
SPEAKER_01
I know that was like from the vaudeville or something.
5
SPEAKER_02
Mm hmm.
5
SPEAKER_02
Mm hmm.
5
SPEAKER_01
It s tough.
5
SPEAKER_02
Mm hmm.
5
SPEAKER_02
That s why I m jealous of musicians, because when musicians have to play an event, they just get up there and they play their song and they play the song.
5
SPEAKER_02
Everybody wants that.
5
SPEAKER_02
They they play the same song over and over again that everybody wants them to play.
5
SPEAKER_02
And when you re when you re going up there trying to do something funny, people are like, give us something new.
5
SPEAKER_02
We don t want to hear your usual stuff.
5
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_00
I m like, how about this?
5
SPEAKER_00
It s old.
5
SPEAKER_01
You can t repeat your bits and then you have to create rapport.
5
SPEAKER_01
And oh, it sucks.
5
SPEAKER_01
I always want to plug in a guitar.
5
SPEAKER_01
And oh, my God.
5
SPEAKER_00
After every line, you re judged.
5
SPEAKER_00
If they don t laugh, even people that aren t listening, like, I guess it s not going well.
5
SPEAKER_00
But with musicians, here it is.
5
SPEAKER_00
Applause.
5
SPEAKER_00
Here s the next one.
5
SPEAKER_00
Applause.
5
SPEAKER_00
But there s no like.
5
SPEAKER_00
I guess we did good.
5
SPEAKER_01
Do they yell out for you?
5
SPEAKER_01
Do you get yell out for you, David?
5
SPEAKER_01
Or do they yell out your hits or they or they yell stuff?
5
SPEAKER_00
I get sort of sometimes a rowdier crowd.
5
SPEAKER_00
I mean, Tia, Amy, Dana and I have done corporates.
5
SPEAKER_00
Have you and Tina ever done a corporate?
5
SPEAKER_02
Oh, yeah.
5
SPEAKER_02
I used to do.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yes.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yes.
5
SPEAKER_02
And there, I mean, I used to, I used to do a lot of, we used to do a lot of corporate stuff for second city back in the day.
5
SPEAKER_02
Like, you know, and this was before anyone, you know, knew our names, but we would have to go, we would get paid, you know, to like
5
SPEAKER_02
to to do jokes about, you know, old John Miller.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_02
Vice President John Miller.
5
SPEAKER_02
Like he s got crazy hair and he loves great, you know, wearing kooky ties and everyone be like, that s me.
5
SPEAKER_02
I m John Miller.
5
SPEAKER_02
And you just have to do all these like specific jokes.
5
SPEAKER_00
So hard.
5
SPEAKER_02
It s so hard.
5
SPEAKER_00
I work with him.
5
SPEAKER_02
That s true.
5
SPEAKER_02
It s so him.
5
SPEAKER_02
You re doing it.
5
SPEAKER_00
He s got three balls and beats his wife.
5
SPEAKER_00
Say something about it.
5
SPEAKER_00
I go in my act, I don t know what to say.
5
SPEAKER_00
And then and then one guy laughs in the back.
5
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_00
And then everyone else like, was that true?
5
SPEAKER_00
It s one guy sets you up.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I knew the meet and greet.
5
SPEAKER_01
I m sure you ve had this, but I don t know if it s like alpha male stuff, but you re kind of this little guy.
5
SPEAKER_01
And I m sort of the star of the show.
5
SPEAKER_01
We re in the meet and greet.
5
SPEAKER_01
I have these guys just really kind of fucking wailing on my hand.
5
SPEAKER_01
I mean, and maybe they ve had a couple of cocktails show off.
5
SPEAKER_01
I m like I had at one point then I got tennis elbows more more ailments so I had to do the fist bump or I had to kind of wave and they re like I want to put my mitts in time with your mitts squeeze you know.
5
SPEAKER_00
I ll show you who s boss I m like you re boss we don t even have to do this.
5
SPEAKER_00
Yeah you win boss.
5
SPEAKER_00
I go I have frozen hand and Dana has frozen elbow and Amy has frozen shoulder.
5
SPEAKER_00
But at least my screen hasn t frozen.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you can t shake it.
5
SPEAKER_01
So Amy, so you re going to therapy and stuff.
5
SPEAKER_01
I mean, first of all, just career-wise, I mean, do you have any, are you going to try to do a dramatic film?
5
SPEAKER_01
Or you re directing, you directed Wine Country, you re writing, you re producing shit.
5
SPEAKER_01
I mean, what doesn t she do?
5
SPEAKER_01
Don t be scared.
5
SPEAKER_01
You have your glasses.
5
SPEAKER_01
Don t run away from it.
5
SPEAKER_02
She doesn t pay her taxes.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, I have this production company called Paper Kite.
5
SPEAKER_02
So we produce a lot of TV and film.
5
SPEAKER_02
I love I like doing a lot of different things.
5
SPEAKER_02
That s why, you know, and trying to stay
5
SPEAKER_02
Trying to stay doing a lot of different things because I find this business is very, I mean, the strike is a perfect example of it like it s really fickle it s really, you have to stay, you have to know how to pivot so like I like acting and stuff and writing stuff and directing stuff and
5
SPEAKER_02
And so I try to kind of do, you know, whatever is the next thing I try to do is different from what I just did.
5
SPEAKER_02
But I haven t done, I ve been more into writing and directing than performing lately.
5
SPEAKER_02
And the tour has been really fun because it s gotten me back into being excited.
5
SPEAKER_02
And this podcast.
5
SPEAKER_02
It s been fun because it s good to play like a character, but actually doing TV or doing movies like this, so hard, so much time, so hard being on set.
5
SPEAKER_02
It s just takes up, as you guys know, it just takes up your life.
5
SPEAKER_00
The hardest are such a chill beginning, middle, end of your day.
5
SPEAKER_02
And, you know, I feel like so lucky, like some show that I love that I couldn t imagine going to do something else right away and then
5
SPEAKER_02
You know, suddenly I m looking at whatever it is, like six, seven years later.
5
SPEAKER_02
But so yeah, I m just kind of doing whatever feels right to do next.
5
SPEAKER_02
And I m so lucky that you brought up wine country.
5
SPEAKER_02
I have such a group of ladies.
5
SPEAKER_02
It s kind of like you guys, it s you guys with grownups.
5
SPEAKER_02
Like, it s just like, I want to just keep doing stuff with the women I love and they re so funny and there s so much fun.
5
SPEAKER_02
I mean, there s no better joy than doing stuff with your friends.
5
SPEAKER_02
Like that s success.
5
SPEAKER_01
I love this phrase, it s been used a few times in this podcast, a murderer s row.
5
SPEAKER_01
It s such a funny, but it was a murderer s row on Wine Country.
5
SPEAKER_01
Obviously, Maya, Rachel, Anna.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yes, we had a murderous row in that movie.
5
SPEAKER_02
Paula Powell, Emily Spivey, Ana Gasteyer, Rachel Dratch, Tina Fey, Maya Rudolph.
5
SPEAKER_02
But then when I was at SNL, I was lucky.
5
SPEAKER_02
I was in this group of Will Forte, Fred Armisen, Vito Hayter, Andy Samberg, Seth Meyers, like Kristen Wiig.
5
SPEAKER_02
That all happened in my years too.
5
SPEAKER_02
Kenan Thompson, like it was just, so that was, they were so talented.
5
SPEAKER_02
People were so, so good.
5
SPEAKER_02
and talented.
5
SPEAKER_02
And when I look at those cast photos of who I got, and also the beginnings and endings of my time there, my endings, it was like, you know, Will Ferrell, Chris Parnell, and then
5
SPEAKER_02
And that was being in the when I was leaving, you know, Kate McKinnon was coming in and all these people were coming in that were.
5
SPEAKER_02
So that s the cool thing is you just if you re lucky, you get some overlap with people that you just love.
5
SPEAKER_02
And that s the best.
5
SPEAKER_00
I had one year with Will.
5
SPEAKER_00
I got to watch him.
5
SPEAKER_00
One last question from me and then Dana, whatever he wants.
5
SPEAKER_00
But you you you did Hillary.
5
SPEAKER_00
And then it was a Kate did it after you.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yes, yeah.
5
SPEAKER_02
And Anna, I think Anna Gasser did it before me.
6
SPEAKER_02
maybe did Hillary before me yeah there was a bunch of them and and I did it when when Downey was writing a lot of them and then and then
6
SPEAKER_02
And then we did, when Palin, that was like, first she was running it against Barack, you know, for the, to win the thingy there.
6
SPEAKER_02
And then Barack won the, what you call it, nomination?
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, well, first he won the nomination, right?
6
SPEAKER_02
He beat Hillary, and then Palin showed up.
6
SPEAKER_02
So it was so fun to be able to do those two characters together, because you don t get a lot of like,
6
SPEAKER_02
female politicians getting to even do scenes together half the time.
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
6
SPEAKER_02
So that was super, super fun to do.
6
SPEAKER_02
And it felt like it was everybody was paying attention to that election.
6
SPEAKER_02
It was very, you know, I played Dennis.
6
SPEAKER_02
I played Dennis Kucinich one time and it was like, ah.
6
SPEAKER_00
Look him up, look him up if you don t know who he is.
6
SPEAKER_00
Dennis Kucinich is here, yeah.
6
SPEAKER_00
Dennis Kucinich.
6
SPEAKER_00
Well, then it became a lot, which, you know, we asked Keenan this question, and I ve referred to it a couple of times, you know, about great casts or great cast members.
6
SPEAKER_00
And he just said the MVP basically is the women of since the late 90s.
6
SPEAKER_00
And we have Jan Hooks and Nora Dunn, but there s been so many dominant women, and even in
6
SPEAKER_00
Later years now, the women play the male politicians.
6
SPEAKER_00
All the rules are... So that s kind of cool.
6
SPEAKER_00
It s progress, I suppose, for women.
6
SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah.
6
SPEAKER_02
I mean, I was very, very lucky to be dropped into that show at a time when Tina was the head writer and Molly and Sherry and Ana had just left.
6
SPEAKER_02
They had just done so much great work.
6
SPEAKER_02
And yeah, I mean, I was- They just kept going.
6
SPEAKER_00
Just kept going.
6
SPEAKER_02
I think that wasn t always the case.
6
SPEAKER_02
Everyone has their version of their experience there.
6
SPEAKER_02
And I think there were stretches when women did not feel heard, supported, encouraged.
6
SPEAKER_02
And I m sure there still are places and stretches now.
6
SPEAKER_02
Everyone has a completely different experience about their time there.
6
SPEAKER_02
But I felt like I lucked out in that there were these
6
SPEAKER_02
just killers that were there crushing that I felt I was part of that group and I felt very lifted up by them.
6
SPEAKER_02
So I was very lucky.
6
SPEAKER_00
It feels like it s been wiped out.
6
SPEAKER_00
If there was ever some dude in the 70s,
6
SPEAKER_00
Women aren t funny, not Lauren, but somebody, you know, like women aren t as funny as men.
6
SPEAKER_00
Why?
6
SPEAKER_00
After Lucy of all and others, they would say that Carol Burnett, but it seems now it s like to me anyway, being a baby boomer, it s obliterated.
6
SPEAKER_00
This is a funny person.
6
SPEAKER_00
I don t think I m watching a woman.
6
SPEAKER_00
I just go, they re funny.
6
SPEAKER_00
They re funny.
6
SPEAKER_00
So I guess I m calling it progress a little bit, at least.
6
SPEAKER_02
And I would even I would even say to expand it less about gender.
6
SPEAKER_02
Like I find the more talented you are, the less most unless you re yeah, you re just not you re not that insecure.
6
SPEAKER_02
Like the funniest people I know love other funny people.
6
SPEAKER_02
That s what they love.
6
SPEAKER_02
They get drawn to other people s work regardless of
6
SPEAKER_02
hundred percent gender.
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, they don t care.
6
SPEAKER_02
But if it s people that like have their own stuff, they re working out.
6
SPEAKER_02
And here we are back to therapy.
6
SPEAKER_02
Dr. Sheila would be able to get these people in and talk and say, like, I know you don t laugh at this person, but really, what s the thing about yourself that you re not not laughing at?
6
SPEAKER_02
They don t laugh
6
SPEAKER_00
What s part about you that isn t funny that you re mad at the women that are funny?
6
SPEAKER_02
Yes, what are you mad about?
6
SPEAKER_00
But I do think, you know, kind of dovetailing back into the quasi-Marine analogy or esprit de corps, but when you see somebody who makes you laugh, or me personally, who does this and knows how hard it is or just some whimsical luck that something hits you and the rhythms are right and it works, and then watching other people do it,
6
SPEAKER_00
And then really in your own mind going, well, they re doing it.
6
SPEAKER_00
They re doing it, I think, better than me.
6
SPEAKER_00
And you kind of connect to them.
6
SPEAKER_00
And if you meet them socially, places, there s a frequency there or a shortcut.
6
SPEAKER_00
It s a great way of communicating.
6
SPEAKER_00
And since humor
6
SPEAKER_00
is a good thing if you can have it, you know, in friends and relationships, it just cuts across.
6
SPEAKER_00
And anywhere I would be in the world, if a few comedians walked in, if it was any social awkward thing, even if I knew them or didn t know them, I would instantly be a lot more comfortable.
6
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, at parties I go up, even those big Oscar type, you just zoom right over to the comedian.
6
SPEAKER_01
Anybody in the comedy world sort of gravitates together, feel like your own little group.
6
SPEAKER_02
Mm hmm.
6
SPEAKER_02
Totally.
6
SPEAKER_02
Absolutely.
6
SPEAKER_02
Feel like you re part.
6
SPEAKER_02
I mean, I really mean it.
6
SPEAKER_02
Like I feel honored to be in a group that you guys feel like you re in, too.
6
SPEAKER_01
I mean, I feel like I would zoom right to you and Tina.
6
SPEAKER_01
If I saw you out, I d be like, guys, save me.
6
SPEAKER_00
What s I m saving this for them.
6
SPEAKER_00
But I am a licensed therapist.
6
SPEAKER_00
I just it s a casual thing I got.
6
SPEAKER_00
And why do you feel that way about your peers?
6
SPEAKER_02
I mean, why do you feel the need to ask?
6
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
6
SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah.
6
SPEAKER_00
Check mate.
6
SPEAKER_01
She s been practicing.
6
SPEAKER_00
My therapist helped me.
6
SPEAKER_00
The one thing she said was, she basically says, life is a shit show.
6
SPEAKER_00
Don t get involved in this idea that these people are living these dream lives on Instagram or whatever.
6
SPEAKER_00
It s all made up.
6
SPEAKER_00
To live is to suffer and to embrace it.
6
SPEAKER_00
You re like, oh, cool.
6
SPEAKER_00
Okay.
6
SPEAKER_00
It s all right.
6
SPEAKER_02
It s kind of like where we re talking about about SNL.
6
SPEAKER_02
You have to kind of believe that
6
SPEAKER_02
No one s really thinking about you.
6
SPEAKER_02
Everyone s kind of thinking about themselves.
6
SPEAKER_02
And if you take the pressure off of yourself that everybody s thinking about you, then you can have a good time.
6
SPEAKER_02
But most people are just thinking about themselves.
6
SPEAKER_02
You know, life is hard.
6
SPEAKER_02
Everyone s in their own head.
6
SPEAKER_00
It s the entire audience.
6
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
6
SPEAKER_02
And you know that we all know that we watch really successful people who kind of get what
6
SPEAKER_02
would be the platonic version of all the stuff everyone would want, and they re still just not happy.
6
SPEAKER_00
Happy is an elusive kind of concept.
6
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, it is.
6
SPEAKER_00
Because going for content at this point.
6
SPEAKER_00
If you re striving... Content.
6
SPEAKER_00
Because it s not... Well, another cliche.
6
SPEAKER_00
So is it about the shiny things and the money or people talking to you at an airport?
6
SPEAKER_00
Ultimately, it is.
6
SPEAKER_00
But landing the bit, right?
6
SPEAKER_00
I mean, for me anyway.
6
SPEAKER_00
Well, David s different.
6
SPEAKER_01
He s coming up.
6
SPEAKER_01
Listen, coming up with ideas or something that makes me laugh is like one of the last joys of like it s still something works in your brain.
6
SPEAKER_01
You re like, oh, this is.
6
SPEAKER_01
Oh, that s going to kill code of a joke or an angle.
6
SPEAKER_01
You go, fuck that.
6
SPEAKER_01
Little things like that are really mean a lot.
6
SPEAKER_02
You know, yes, agree.
6
SPEAKER_02
And hopefully we can still do it when we re like, not able to stand up and lift our shoulders.
6
SPEAKER_02
We ll do sit down.
6
SPEAKER_02
You guys will do sit down.
6
SPEAKER_00
No matter what they say, if use it or lose it is a concept.
6
SPEAKER_00
I think the more you, I mean, I think trying to memorize your act, like say you have kind of a new act, I was shooting a special and just the exhaustion of your brain, it must be some kind of workout to keep you articulate or all things being equal, because you ll stay more fluid longer and doing this.
6
SPEAKER_00
When we started reading ads, I was dyslexic or something.
6
SPEAKER_00
Remember, David, in the early days, I was like, I couldn t really read them.
6
SPEAKER_00
And now I ve liquefied my ancient brain and now I can.
6
SPEAKER_01
I heard Amy doing her ads and I m like, this is liquid IV.
6
SPEAKER_01
I go, I m drinking one now.
6
SPEAKER_01
I go, this is this is similar, but it s.
6
SPEAKER_02
I have to say it s fun to do podcast ads as a character, though, because you.
6
SPEAKER_01
Yes, I told Dana you do that.
6
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, you can just say whatever stupid stuff you want.
6
SPEAKER_00
If it helps you, this is the way I think about it.
6
SPEAKER_00
I just think of these small companies that are our sponsors, sometimes they re mom and pop and families.
6
SPEAKER_00
I go, they re trying to live the American dream.
6
SPEAKER_00
They re going all out.
6
SPEAKER_00
With that attitude, I m excited that they re supporting our show.
6
SPEAKER_00
I turned down every commercial, every gigantic Bring in the Brinks truck in the 90s because we re supposed to be like Bob Dylan or something.
6
SPEAKER_00
We don t have a catalog to sell.
6
SPEAKER_00
That s the problem.
6
SPEAKER_00
You got to sell the catalog later.
6
SPEAKER_00
But
6
SPEAKER_01
Anyway, I mean, I m going to sum up Amy with a listen to this summary.
6
SPEAKER_01
OK, Dana, and you can jump in.
6
SPEAKER_00
He does this every time he lands it.
6
SPEAKER_00
OK, OK.
6
SPEAKER_01
Dr. Sheila, Dr. Sheila podcast out now.
6
SPEAKER_01
And then she s got her head down listening very contently.
6
SPEAKER_01
She is also, it was very fun to talk to you because I don t see you a lot.
6
SPEAKER_01
It s this great time to just shoot the shit with someone that s funny.
6
SPEAKER_01
And Dana, you were fine.
6
SPEAKER_01
And also,
6
SPEAKER_01
Oh, we forgot, you were in Baby Mama, we re not gonna talk about that, but it s a great movie, also.
6
SPEAKER_01
Baby Mama, great movie.
6
SPEAKER_01
And she s in Mean Girls, along with memes of Mean Girls, which she s in.
6
SPEAKER_00
Memes.
6
SPEAKER_01
That everyone loves it.
6
SPEAKER_01
And Dana, continue, wrap it up, you get half of this.
6
SPEAKER_00
SNL All-Star, just a little milestone.
6
SPEAKER_00
The first all-girl update, feature all women,
7
SPEAKER_02
Sorry, her and Tina.
7
SPEAKER_02
Oh, funny is what I call it.
7
SPEAKER_02
A book she released, Yes, Please, about her life.
7
SPEAKER_02
The Restless Leg Tour.
7
SPEAKER_02
I don t think they need- That s the tour, I forgot.
7
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, the tour s gonna be big.
7
SPEAKER_02
They don t need us to promote them.
7
SPEAKER_02
The tickets are going fast.
7
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
7
SPEAKER_02
Whoops, mean we can add another show?
7
SPEAKER_01
But it s hard.
7
SPEAKER_01
It sounds easy to go, add another show, and then you go, but it s still tough.
7
SPEAKER_01
It s so fun, the audience knows.
7
SPEAKER_01
It s so fun to perform for the audience.
7
SPEAKER_01
Everything around it is so tough.
7
SPEAKER_01
That s the only decision.
7
SPEAKER_01
It s like, shit, give me a good crowd.
7
SPEAKER_01
I love it.
7
SPEAKER_02
Because what are you going to do?
7
SPEAKER_02
You re in your room for like 14 hours waiting for the show.
7
SPEAKER_02
Maybe go to a matinee if it s easy to get to a theater.
7
SPEAKER_01
Walk out front and sign a bobblehead.
7
SPEAKER_01
They re like, sign this.
7
SPEAKER_01
But we re not complaining to people listening.
7
SPEAKER_02
We understand we re getting paid.
7
SPEAKER_01
Dana s complaining.
7
SPEAKER_02
I m I love I love it.
7
SPEAKER_02
We re getting the money to act like idiots.
7
SPEAKER_01
Thank you, Amy.
7
SPEAKER_01
Very nice of you to take the time.
7
SPEAKER_01
We love it.
7
SPEAKER_02
We love talking to you, and the best part of this podcast, we just get to spend a focused hour getting to know you in 20 whatever it is, 23, it s a very boring time in America, nothing s going on.
7
SPEAKER_02
So it s good that we have, we can figure out something to talk about.
7
SPEAKER_02
But anyway, well, we ll see.
7
SPEAKER_02
I love, this is what I use, because someone did it to me.
7
SPEAKER_02
See you around campus, as if show business is a high school or something.
7
SPEAKER_00
Oh, that s cute.
7
SPEAKER_00
I love that.
7
SPEAKER_00
I love that.
7
SPEAKER_00
And that s better.
7
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, that I love spending time with you guys.
7
SPEAKER_00
Thanks so much for asking me.
7
SPEAKER_00
I really have so enjoyed listening to everybody on this podcast.
7
SPEAKER_00
And so thanks for letting me be part of it.
7
SPEAKER_01
We appreciate it.
7
SPEAKER_01
I ll see you in science class.
7
SPEAKER_00
See you in science class.
7
SPEAKER_01
This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13.
7
SPEAKER_01
Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes.
7
SPEAKER_01
Available now for free wherever you get your podcasts.
7
SPEAKER_01
No joke, folks.
7
SPEAKER_02
Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment.
7
SPEAKER_01
The show s lead producer is Greg Holtzman, with production and engineering support from Serena Regan and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.