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 of the human existence that you need.
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I imagine that is such a challenging thing to face, right?
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Because you're dosing out a little bit of this thing that can be pretty haunting in the wrong dosages.
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 But for me, so I was able to sort of like completely abstain from those major things.
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And then the food thing is the thing that I'm just thoughtful about.
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It's reassuring to know that I don't know if anyone isn't thinking about food.
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I think there's a very small percentage, but especially the people that are in incredible shape, I think they're probably thinking about it more than anyone wants to admit.
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Everyone is.
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 Everyone's worried about it.
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And so I just I rarely wake up in the morning in the mood for a salad But I've had enough data to support that if I eat that salad I'll feel better than a lot of other things and then sometimes I black out and eat like a bunch of White Castle hamburgers Oh, man, those are good.
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Wake up.
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I mean you're from Ohio man White Castle.
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Yeah, Wendy's in White Castle.
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It's a good life Sometimes you gotta do that.
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I do it constantly
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 But I also, you know, I fell in love with working out and being active and just like the endorphins that come from, you know, getting those sort of good chemicals going.
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So I'm able to sort of even it out.
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But, you know, you might find me at the wrong time.
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You never know, six White Castle hamburgers.
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Yeah, Baskin Robbins.
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You're like, Josh, good to see you.
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I'm like, I'll act like we never met.
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Please don't talk to me.
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I'm just eating my ice cream, yes.
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Let me have this moment.
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 What is the biggest misconception about fame you feel like people have?
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And what is the difference between TV slash movie fame and social media fame?
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 I think the difference between social media and traditional TV and movie fame, the difference is becoming more and more slight.
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And I think by the time my son is a teenager, he's three now, I don't know if there will be a separation.
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Because inevitably, I'm not sure that the people that he watches on my iPad are any different than if we go watch a movie in the theater.
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 He might think Mr. Beast is more famous than Jim Carrey or something.
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He's probably going to be watching an iPad or an iPhone more than a big screen.
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When we grew up going to the big screen was a big deal.
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It was such an event.
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And they were big stars.
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 Mr. Beast or I don't know a Dhar Mann video with these younger actors in his videos you might think you're more connected to what you're seeing consistently, right?
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Totally and I think too like the way we saw with TV shows you know when you let someone into your home and you watch something with your family like it's a very special relationship and
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 And I think now with social media, having access to these people that you love.
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Yeah, nonstop.
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Yeah, you're invested in their life.
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And I think you're so much more inclined to buy their thing, because you're like, I want to support them, or I know I have a shorthand with them, and they wouldn't lead me astray.
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I mean, you have to be careful, right?
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The things that you do sell them have to be of value, because you'll lose that quickly if you steer your audience wrong.
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But yeah, I think that's very true.
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 How have you managed it yourself?
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Like the idea of fame over the last, I guess, 15, 20 years.
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I'm not, listen, this is when I really like fame.
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Really like it.
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I do these college gigs where I go and I'll go speak at some college and recently I was at Bryant University in Rhode Island and listen, I'm not gonna hide it.
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I stay in a Marriott courtyard.
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Nice.
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You know?
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Nice.
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 And a lot of these places, you know, I'll want to maximize time with my son.
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So I'll take the red eye in, you know, you get in, you know, you do so much speaking stuff, you get in at 8am, 9am, and you're like, what am I going to do?
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 you know, I'm tired and you wanna go crash at the hotel, check-in's not till two.
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So I go to the Marriott Courtyard, and if I see the, and it's like 10 a.m., maybe 11 now.
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And if I see.
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Get that free breakfast over there, the Continental, man.
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Are you kidding me?
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Make your own waffles?
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Absolutely.
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Where else you gonna do that?
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But if I see that the person behind the desk recognizes me, I go, I'm checking in early.
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That's what I like.
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That's what you like about it.
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That's about it.
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There you go.
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 No, I mean, yeah, I don't know.
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I don't implicitly think about it a lot, except in where can I be useful.
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Writing this book, I wanted it to be a self-help book, hiding as a memoir.
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And I realized that I love a good self-help book, and by that I mean I don't read them, but I put them on my bookshelf.
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I want you to think I read them.
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 And sometimes I feel like self-help books or even memoirs can be written by people who feel like they're at the finish line and the people who have summited the peak and so it can be hard to relate.
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But for me I was like wow a lot of people grew up watching my show and if I was saying to them that time when you were watching me where maybe you were assuming everything was perfect.
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 I was actually going through this.
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That's special.
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So to me, it's like, okay, if I have this specific thing that's unique to me, how can I sort of help people in a way and use that to their benefit, ideally, while enjoying the spoils of getting a chicken at the Marriott.
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Exactly.
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Why are happy people annoying to you?
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 Well, I think I made a snap judgment for a lot of my life thinking that happy was this thing that was inherited by attractive people, the generationally wealthy, arena football players.
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Yeah, I was making 250 bucks a week playing arena football.
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Watch out, watch out.
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Yo, how much smaller is the field in arena football?
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Half the size, yeah, it's 50 yards and about 25 wide.
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But the athleticism is insane.
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Oh yeah, freaks.
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And also, it's violent.
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 Extremely violent.
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I mean you're playing on like concrete essentially with a little slab of carpet.
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You're getting hit by either a wall or the concrete every play or another human being within no space to run around.
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So they're just smashing into you.
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 So I played a quarterback in this movie, Red Dawn, the remake of Red Dawn, okay?
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It's one I'm pretty proud of.
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I'm not.
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No, I could've been better, I'm sorry.
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It's a good movie, I wish I was better.
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And I'm playing, I'm 21, and I'm playing this quarterback, so I go to football camp for two weeks.
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And with a lot of former arena football, or current arena football players, some college athletes, and they were so lovely.
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And I remember,
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 We're gonna show some plays to the producers, right?
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Like this is what we've set up for a couple of the different takes in the movie And I line up behind my center a guy named Reggie who I've been with for a week and a half He was about 300 plus pound black guy the best like a real center in life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah total center and I
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 I yell, Hut, and then I realize that I'm now behind a 220 pound white guy named Mike.
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I lined up behind the wrong guy.
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On the first play, in front of the director, in front of the producers.
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And I just was like, I, I, I.
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 I give up, I give up on this role.
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I'll never, I'll never be enough.
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And your brother-in-law's a quarterback, right?
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Yeah, my brother-in-law played for Fresno State and my father-in-law played for the Jets.
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But you didn't know them then?
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No, thank God.
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That would've been good to get the training, though.
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I think they've seen the movie.
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They don't bring it up at Thanksgiving.
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That's good, that's good.
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 Something that you mentioned beforehand, which I thought was really inspiring, is that you've had this career as an actor very consistently since you were in your teens.
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You've built, I don't know, 30 plus million followers on social media.
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You speak, you've got the book now.
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What I heard you say before, which I think is really inspiring, is that your next chapter, you want it to be about impacting people and service.
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That's what I heard you say before we jumped on the camera.
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Why is that something that excites you at this stage of your life?
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 you know, being of service in a bigger way.
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 I guess, I've heard it said before, there's no true altruism because when you're doing something for someone else, did you say that?
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You came up with that?
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No, I was just pointing back to yourself as it always makes you feel better.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, that's what I was pointing at me saying.
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Totally.
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It makes you feel better, yeah.
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I'll give you credit for it.
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No, no, no, no.
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But yeah, there's no true altruism just because it's this idea of you're instantly repaid the moment you do it, especially if you don't get caught doing it.
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 and try to do good things for other people and don't get caught doing it, I've heard.
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So yeah, whether I believe it really deeply in my soul, which I believe I do, but I also know it's kind of like the only free high in life.
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And it's the only way for me to pay back how utterly overpaid I am in my life.
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And again, throughout my life, even when we talk today, when people say,
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 what are your next goals or what's the rest of the year looking like or the next five years.
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When I interviewed Neil Brennan for my podcast, Male Models, I interviewed him and he's a brilliant comedian, helped create the Chappelle Show and I'll never forget what he said.
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He's like, you'll probably get what you always wanted, just not in the ways you were expecting it.
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 And then he said, actually, you'll probably get what you always wanted, but by the time you get it, you won't want it anymore.
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And I found that to be incredibly true.
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And so everything in my life, I could not have sort of expected it or set it up in the game plan, but it's been exactly what I needed at the right time.
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And I think that me using all of this goodwill that I've accrued to sort of help people is sort of like the only, it's the only thing to do.
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 Yeah, what's the thing you got that you really wanted that you realized when you got it wasn't all that after all?
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Oh man, that's such a great question.
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Is it landing some big show or getting some award or something that you thought was going to change the way you felt about yourself or give you something that you didn't have?
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 I think there's, look, I went three years really struggling.
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I was having a great sort of part of my life in social media and speaking gigs and writing this book for three years, but I was not really working as an actor, and that was so ego-deflating.
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It was this thing that I'd done since I was nine, and I'm like,
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 And I'm dealing with this idea of like, but I'm taken care of and I feel like I'm ungrateful to be pissed.
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But and yet like there's this thing that my identity is wrapped up in it.
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And if I am not this, then what am I?
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And, you know, I would audition, I would get close to certain things.
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So I'm like, okay, like I'm in the ballpark, but it just wasn't connecting.
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 And then I finally, once I had sort of let it all go, right, which people had told me my whole life, but it was like the destination without the directions, which was like, oh, when you stop caring, that's when you book the big job.
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I was like, well, that sounds great, but that's like a bumper sticker.
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How do I do it?
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 But I had to really face that thing of, can I be okay without the things that I thought would make me all better?
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Can I allow a good life to be the result of good living instead of, but I need these trophies.
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I swear to God, once I get this award, I'll be fine.
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Once I have X in my bank account, then I'll be okay.
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I had to be okay with, I have a wife, I have a kid, I can pay my bills.
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 I feel like I'm a good man, like, I gotta be okay with that and the rest has to be icing.
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 So I got a really great job.
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I became the lead in this Disney Plus TV show called Turner & Hooch, which is very canceled, but it was very good for the time we made it.
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And I loved doing it, but even in that moment, I'm standing on set and I'm like, I miss my kid.
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And I was like, if you had flashed forward or flashed back six months ago, I would have been like, to be the lead of some big fancy show would be the only thing I'd want in the world.
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 I loved every second of it and I would've loved to keep doing it, but certainly in those moments, I'm like, well, there's always something.
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You're always sort of, you're never all better.
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Yeah, that's interesting, that's good perspective.
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Speaking of your kid, how old is your kid?
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He's three.
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Three years old.
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What has been the biggest lesson of fatherhood so far for you?
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 Oh boy, I think it's much like we were chatting, I'm not sure whether we were chatting on camera about it or it was before we were rolling, but like lack of reaction and how much that will serve me.
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Not reacting to things.
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Yeah.
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Why is that?
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 So much goes on in a given day with my three-year-old son, and I would venture to guess most three-year-olds, where you are so overwhelmed by this joy and meaning and value as a human being, and then you feel utterly frustrated and hopeless, because why doesn't this kid listen to me?
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And you're like, oh yeah, he's three, it would be ridiculous if he bent to my will.
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 He's figuring out his place on this earth too, and he's pushing limits and trying things.
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And I've learned that from my wife, really.
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I always imagined that I would puff up on my kid and be like, here are the rules, and we're gonna be like, and I'm gonna teach you how to be a man.
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When in reality, it's about me being non-reactive and just, you know,
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 Gentle, you know giving him gentle guidance about what's right and what's not and obviously you still have like your bottom lines Like hey, we're not gonna act like this and if we do we're gonna go into a timeout But there's no need to sort of be explode or react or something.
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Yeah, and and my wife Leads by example in that way.
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That's beautiful.
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What's the biggest lesson?
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Your father taught you by not being here.
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I
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 You know, there was sort of two things about my dad that I realized.
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One was this idea of in my 20s I would sort of have these relationships.
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Throughout my teens it was initially with men in my life that I would turn men into these father figures without them knowing.
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Older male figures?
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 Yeah, and these sort of covert contracts that I would make with men that they had no idea about.
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Just like TV executives or managers or agents or?
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The doorman of my building.
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Interesting, really.
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Random guys that if they were nice to me or I just would put them on a pedestal and basically set them up to disappoint me.
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Of course.
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And it would just breed resentment.
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 And then eventually with women in my life, what I found was, you know, I'd get into these relationships and like, you know, these are typical of the relationships you have in your early 20s.
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Like it wasn't these super long-term things, but you know, I would be dating someone and then there would be a natural conflict as is just natural in relationships, especially early on.
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 And I would just head for the hills.
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What I didn't know was that I was sort of perpetuating the bad behavior of my dad.
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Because what I was doing was I was saying, listen, he left.
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 So obviously nothing is forever, right?
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Like if 50% of your parental system can leave, well then there's a chance no one will stick around ever.
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So I'm okay and actually I'm going to prove to you how okay I am by leaving first.
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 And she would be left going, we were literally fighting over what we were gonna order for takeout.
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It would just be these little triggers that instead of being like, oh, these are the natural conflicts that if you walk through as a couple, you become closer.
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When did you realize that was a thing and how did you learn to shift that energy from,
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 Leaving to okay.
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Let me have the uncomfortable conversation and figure out a solution I think it was you know I think it all sort of stemmed from recovery and getting sober and being aware of like the work like You'll never know what the thing is that wakes you up to this idea of life is constant inner work, right?
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And you talked about it early on like doing your therapy like it's like how can I hold myself more accountable?
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Uh-huh
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 Even if you have the best parents, there's always going to be some blind spots.
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Some gaps in your rearing where you have to do some self-parenting.
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And usually with the help of others.
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Absolutely.
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That's interesting.
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So have you been doing a lot of self-parenting for your life recently?
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 Well, I just think it became this idea of whether through recovery, through other people, through traditional therapy, it was like, how can I look at these things, these negative patterns, and try not to allow them to completely run my life?
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And then I learned it from my wife, because when we started dating, we would have a conflict or get into a fight, and I finally understood that family doesn't leave.
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 So she made me understand that like, oh we can fight we can even go to bed angry, but family doesn't leave So where am I going?
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Right.
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We'll figure this out today tomorrow or maybe in a week from now, but family doesn't leave So when we're ready, I'll be here to figure this out You take some time if you need to to go have space but then come back and we'll talk about it
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 Yeah, and that was revelatory for me because it reinforced this idea, but her family structure was so healthy that that was natural to her.
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And it wasn't, even though I have this great mom who was so there for me, I was so influenced by this guy simply by him just not being there.
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What was the positive lesson that him not being there taught you?
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 The positive, I think, I don't know, I think it all being full circle with me having a son.
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 I think it might not sound positive, but it allowed me to have closure with him, which was having my son and totally getting off on these mundane things of putting clothes on my kid or bathing him or walking him for miles while he slept in his stroller.
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I started to feel bad for my dad.
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I was like, he missed out on all this.
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 And I think once you can have empathy, it's nice.
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Because I think for most of us, the initial is just anger and resentment.
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And when it can evolve into empathy eventually, it's like, oh, this is less corrosive to my spirit.
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 Yeah.
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That's a beautiful perspective, man.
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I've got a couple of final questions for you before I ask them.
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Sure.
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Happy people are annoying.
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You look very happy here on both sides of the book.
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It's a beaten switch.
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Right, exactly.
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Make sure you guys get a copy of the book, the Un-Memoir Memoir, self-help, teaching a lot of stories about here that Josh has gone through and lessons and inspiring things.
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So make sure you guys pick up a copy of this.
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It's going to be really insightful stuff.
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 You're all over social media, I think you've got 30 plus million followers.
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It's Josh Peck everywhere.
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Twitter, Instagram, Josh Peck official on Facebook.
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What platform are you spending the most time on and excited about the most right now?
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I think it's Instagram, I'm actually Shua Peck.
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I know, I'm all over the place with these handles.
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Okay, okay.
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I'm a mess.
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Got you, I read it backwards.
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This is dyslexic, I see things backwards, but I see it.
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Shua Peck, yes, on Instagram.
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 But yeah, I would say TikTok and Instagram for sure.
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TikTok as well.
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You're going hard on TikTok, huh?
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You gotta love it.
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Do you like TikTok?
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 I do, I don't, we're posting stuff on there.
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I know from the show, I think we have like 1.5 or 6 million followers.
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I'm sure you got like 30 million on there.
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No, I mean, not crazy.
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Yeah, just like 20.
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But I like it.
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I don't go on there that much because every time I go on there, I'm on there for like an hour just seeing what are the trends, what's happening, what's the new stuff out there.
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And so I try not to look at it for like a week or two at a time.
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And then I spend like an hour or two just
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 down the rabbit hole.
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It's fun.
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It's too much though.
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The algorithm knows us better than we know ourselves.
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I get just motivational speech after motivational speech.
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Do you?
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That's awesome.
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Because that's all I like to watch really.
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Do you find
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 That's interesting because I would also guess that at certain times you're like, enough motivation, this is my business.
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Sometimes I need a release from it.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, they throw in other stuff that I like too.
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I have a cat, so there's different cat stuff or animal stuff.
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It's always fun for me to just.
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Cat guy.
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Got a cat.
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Love it.
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Love dogs.
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 I probably love dogs more than cats, but the amount of responsibility of having a dog, it's too much for my personality because I put so much love and attention, and I want to be around the dog all the time.
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 And I want to walk the dog all the time.
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And so I lose myself and like the rest of my life because I put so much on the dog.
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Because my heart is too big for these animals.
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So cat, I love cats, but I can leave when I don't feel as bad.
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But I just got back from a trip for a few days and I was missing my cat.
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I was like, I have a little cat, like a camera that watches to see when the motion is in there.
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And I'm like, oh, how's my cat?
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My cat's name is Grady.
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 Grady the podcat.
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If we were in high school together.
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Grady the podcat.
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I would look at you and I would be like, that guy.
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 he's got it all.
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And I'd be like, athlete, handsome.
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But.
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I wasn't handsome back then.
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I was goofy.
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Trust me, you were.
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That's what all hot people say.
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They go, you should have seen me in high school.
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I'm like, I'd like to.
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I was goofy, man.
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Listen, you should have seen me in high school.
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I've seen photos of you.
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It's in reruns.
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Just check out Team Nick.
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And who would have known that you would have been a future cat guy and that would have really humanized you to be.
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Cat guy, man.
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Yeah, if I had known in high school you'd be a future cat guy, I'd be like, that guy's all right.
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 That guy's not bad.
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Yeah.
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He's not too cool for school.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You're the big teen star celebrity up in here.
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You're too cool for school.
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Happy people are annoying.
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Make sure you guys pick up a copy.
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Get some for your friends.
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Share it out.
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Follow you over on social media.
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This question I ask, these two final questions, this one I ask people at the end, it's called the three truths question.
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So imagine a hypothetical scenario.
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It's your last day on earth, many years away.
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You live as long as you want, but eventually you gotta pass away.
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 And you get to accomplish everything you want to accomplish you live a healthy a healthy happy life You've got the family everything happens the way you want it or envision it or better But for whatever reason in this world, you've got to take all of your work with you So all the reruns that you're embarrassed by they go with you the books the content the social media anything you share into the world No one has access to anymore
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 All your message.
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But you get to leave behind three things you know to be true.
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Three lessons you would share with the world.
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What would be those three truths for you?
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It takes no courage to critique.
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It takes courage to create.
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Allow a good life to be the result of good living and the bad times are here to teach us and the good times are here to remind us what we're fighting for.
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 Mmm Sounds like you've had that memorized for a while.
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And it's a good I Hope everyone has the opportunity to meet John Stamos once cuz he's as handsome in person.
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I'm sure that would just be like a footnote That was like three point.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he lives up to the hair, huh?
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It's great.
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It's great the whole thing the whole thing.
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Oh, yeah, that's why I smile the hair, dude You should smell him
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 Smells like a man.
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Smells like an old book.
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An old book?
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Yeah, like the inside of a drawer.
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 I like this, man.
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I want to acknowledge you, Josh, for a moment for the journey you've been on.
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I think growing up, I don't know what it's like to not have a father growing up.
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I couldn't imagine that.
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Growing up and turning out to be a decent human being, but also having these kind of different shadows in your teens and early 20s that you learn to face and overcome.
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I think it's really challenging to face the big challenges in our life.
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 The unhealthy addictions losing the weight losing 100 pounds That's seems almost impossible for people when they and they think of that task if they've gone that far so to do that and overcome all the other challenges and also overcome the fear of Abandonment and not running away and with intimacy and relationships.
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I think that's probably the thing I'm when I acknowledge the most for
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 Diving into committed relationship marriage and not running away.
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I think it's really beautiful journey that you've been on I'm excited to see what you create in service with all this as a foundation moving forward, so I really acknowledge you for this man and Excited to see what you build moving forward my final question.
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What's your definition of greatness?
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Oh man
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 God, I should have been more prepared for this one.
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Definition, what's my definition of greatness?
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It's how you affect others.
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Yeah.
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What you do with the great things that are given to you.
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 I think.
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Thanks, man.
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Thank you, brother.
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Appreciate it, brother.
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Thank you so much for listening.
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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and inspired you on your journey towards greatness.
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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's show with all the important links.
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And if no one's told you lately, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.
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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.