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How long did you work with Julius Feeney?
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Do you know how many seasons?
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I think probably three.
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Or four.
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So we had Nora Dunn and Jan Hooks and Victoria Jackson as our primary female cast members.
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Some killers.
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And they were great.
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And then when, I think when Jan and Nora left, then Julia came in and took that primary role of doing a lot of stuff with Phil Hartman.
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Her range is incredible.
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And then we do talk about in this podcast, really interesting, her character, it s Pat, about a kind of a woman that no one knows whether it s a man or a woman.
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This was 1991 or two, but she talks all about her reaction to that, what she feels about it.
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We also talk about, she brings up a sketch I wrote for her when I was a lawyer.
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Yes.
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And that even shocked me and I did not remember, and it was great to hear.
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It was a very real reaction from me.
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I always say to people like, take away David Spade, all the fame, The Bachelorette, all the shows, all the movies, all the world, Missy.
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He was a dandy little sketch writer.
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I like that.
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I ll take that over everything.
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That s the hardest thing to do.
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But you wrote some jokes for me once.
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You were my opening act.
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We did a little tour and I would give you subjects and you d go, sure, boss.
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And you had a pencil in your ear and a little notebook.
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Right away, boss.
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Here s a joke Dana did today.
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Why do they call them neat freaks?
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Why do you have to be a freak if you re neat?
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That s yours.
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Can t you just be tidy?
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Nah, you re a neat freak.
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I m vacuuming.
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Why am I a freak?
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Who s a freak?
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I m not a freak!
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I m just vacuuming.
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Freak!
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Get away from the freak!
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Get the cat away!
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That s Dana s new one.
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All right, here we go.
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Julius Wink.
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So you were saying about religion.
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Oh, yeah.
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You ve done two or three one-woman shows based on... Well, really just one.
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Letting Go of God was the... Yeah, that s the religion one.
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The other ones are other things.
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God Said Ha, yeah, I got it.
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So you re an atheist.
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Yes.
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Although I really it sounds so negative, but it s just yes.
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Well, no, because to American ears, atheists sounds like I hate puppies and flowers.
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Yes.
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You know, it s kind of a Nazi thing to it or so.
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Yeah.
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Even though the Nazis weren t atheists, but I which I m always explaining to people.
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OK.
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But anyway.
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Well, it comes from Catholicism.
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But yeah, I yeah, I mean, I ve had a yeah, I don t believe I don t let me put it this way.
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I don t live my life under the assumption that there is a deity watching what I do.
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Right.
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I guess that makes me an atheist.
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Yeah, I guess, I don t know what, I keep coming back to this, like I can t comprehend infinity, that there was no beginning or end to this, whatever, why do things exist?
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And when did they get here?
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So I keep going around with that.
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I did know a Jehovah s Witness once who told me he could understand infinity.
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I said, so you can think of a God who never was not here, was always here.
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He looked up and he goes, yeah, I got it.
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Yeah, yep.
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Not me.
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I want to say to the record, I like puppies and I like flowers.
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I think, Julie, what people is the it hits the ear like if you don t believe in that, then you don t believe what we believe is that that created those things.
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So you re against everything.
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Is that kind of what the vibe is?
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Yeah, that s it.
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And it s like a very I used to think I could
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I don t know what I thought.
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I guess I thought doing my show, I would change people s mind.
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I wasn t doing it to change people s mind.
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Actually, the reason I did the show is because for me, it was a huge, huge, the philosophical transformation.
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I wasn t particularly religious before.
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So it was about age 40 that this happened.
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Well, I was religious.
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I wanted to be a nun in high school.
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I was completely committed Catholic, but I let it kind of go away.
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And then I had a crisis in my life that made me believe more like I really felt, you know, like I had religious experiences.
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And then after that, I started trying to think, well, what was going on with those experiences?
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And then as I learned more and more about the brain and how we evolved,
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Then I finally read the Bible, you know, and then over two years, I realized that I could explain it psychologically or naturally or, you know, like I didn t need a God to explain what happened to me.
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And then so then I wanted that was a big dramatic change in my life.
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And I had been doing these one person shows about things like that.
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So I thought, oh, that s a good challenge to kind of do a one person show about a change of mind that all the dramas all takes place in your head.
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And that was really hard.
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And I didn t necessarily achievement achieve it.
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I had to make stories and you know, like I had to conform to normal dramatic structure.
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But I did it.
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And it was probably my most popular show.
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And but I wasn t thinking I m going to convince people to be an atheist.
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It was more like I have comedic tones, I m sure.
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Oh, yes, it was actually I felt defensive about it because I felt like I was getting as many laughs per five minutes as comedians were.
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But because it was a difficult topic, I wasn t considered a stand up, you know, like.
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Right.
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And well, it s a brave topic and that s hard to stand up.
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It s more respected in a way to try to tackle things instead of 7-Eleven, which I tackle.
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I watched about 12 minutes of it.
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I thought it was really charming, and the way you walked yourself into it was very disarming for the audience.
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But yeah, did I ever believe in a magic god and all that stuff?
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No, I m with you on that.
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I mean, I never bought it, and no one bought it in the Lutheran Church, even the pastors, you could tell for sure.
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Oh, I fully believe now that
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Oh, everyone.
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No one really believes it.
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I mean, like no one really about tribalism and history and affection for the ritual and affection for the way of life.
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Mm hmm.
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And so it almost is like it was useless to try to argue rationally with someone about it.
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It isn t a rational choice.
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It s usually you re born into it or you have an emotional thing that makes you join something because it helps your life.
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Like,
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And, you know, I don t care.
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That s fine with me, with people like I m not, you know, so I went back to the Catholic Church with my wife and I found it just interesting because they were talking about Pontius Pilate and stuff, you know, and it s like, wow, they re still doing it.
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It was like going back in time, but I m still doing these bits.
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Yeah.
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But I know it s the old material.
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David, have you ever had?
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Yeah.
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Now I kind of as a hobby, follow these right wing Catholics.
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It s interesting.
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Right wing.
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OK.
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Oh, yeah.
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There s a huge schism coming in the church, I think.
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Oh, that makes sense.
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I think there s the Latin masters and they re the people who are with Pope Benedict and not with Pope Francis.
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And they think Francis is the antipope.
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Did you say Pope Benedict or Pope Wannadick?
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Good night!
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Sorry, okay.
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Anyway, I canceled, I m sorry.
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I m canceled every five minutes.
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I like that one.
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I just made it up.
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That s a good one.
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I just made it up.
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Anyway, should we talk about your other supernatural experience, meeting David Spade in 19...
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That s Julia.
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When you got, my question for Julia is, and then we re going to get to me and Julia, of course, when she, I think you came from Groundlings.
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So when there, when, when that happens and you can explain how it happens, is there any jealousy when someone gets plucked out of Groundlings?
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Well, it s so funny.
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I think I was so naive.
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I didn t think anyone was jealous of me and I wasn t jealous of other people, but now I understand that most people get really jealous of those things.
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I mean,
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So I was just kind of oblivious about it towards me and and the people who got on before me, like Phil Hartman and John Lovitz, who I only didn t know well, but I I knew Phil a lot better than John.
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But I didn t feel jealous.
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I just thought, wow, that s so exciting.
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You know, like I didn t.
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But.
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There s something wrong with me that I don t feel that way.
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I actually don t feel that way.
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I know it s an innocence, a nice, it s a nice innocence that you might, you learn later, like, oh shit, they re mad at me because of this.
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Or I started to feel those tingles of jealousy at SNL, to be honest.
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And I didn t really have it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, at Groundlings, everyone s good, too, you know, but SNL is just a whole nother level, like going from college probably to.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, my experience at the Groundlings was all for one and one for all.
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And if someone gets it, we re all happy.
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And then at SNL, it took me a long time to understand how to be competitive.
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You know, like I didn t.
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It was really brutal.
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I was really kind of a lamb fed to the sharks in certain ways, but I did adapt.
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and
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that the difference, the stand ups were kind of trained to kill.
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Yeah.
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Destroy elbow out.
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Right.
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And seem like the groundlings were sweeter and nicer overall.
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Oh, wait.
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I mean, I m sure I was naive and I was and frankly, I was succeeding so much.
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I didn t know.
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That sounds arrogant to say.
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But at that moment, I was succeeding enough that I didn t have any awareness of the competitiveness of it.
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I was just thought we were all doing it.
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And
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But then when I got to SNL, well, actually, and I feel like I had mostly really good experience there.
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But now that I m older and I look back, I think I I really didn t understand what was going on.
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I didn t understand how hard you had to compete.
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I thought we were all just going to look out for each other.
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Yeah.
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Well, when when Nora and Jan left and you came in, it seemed like you had a lot of you were very active initially.
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You were doing stuff.
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I was beaten down.
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Well, you became the go to wife.
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Solid utility.
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You were just in every sketch in a sense.
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You and Phil had that sort of a lot of sketches together.
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Right.
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And you were very active your first.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he was with Jan was mostly his wife, but I was like I was the B team wife.
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But then Jan left the show and there you were, and then you came in.
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You were the alternative wife.
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Did you and Jan overlap a year?
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Yeah, a year.
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One year.
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Okay.
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A year, yeah.
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And Nora, not at all?
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No, because I think I replaced her.
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Oh, like chased her out is what we call it.
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No, no.
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There was several shows.
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She s not a sharp.
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Got some sharp elbows, Sweeney.
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Yeah.
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But it s a good SNL book title.
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Yes.
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Sharp elbows.
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Well, yeah, Julia.
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So you come in, you get plucked from the groundlings.
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Was anyone else with you or was Phil and John already there?
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But you got plucked solo.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, it was between me and Lisa Kudrow.
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Oh, really?
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And when I got it, I thought, you know, I hope Lisa gets something.
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Oh, she deserves success like me.
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Yeah.
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Bless her heart.
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And I hope she you go.
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I hope one day she makes some millions of dollars, you know, because she you know what?
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She deserves it.
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You know what s funny?
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I m not saying if there was room for two women and I m saying back then it was probably a lot tougher where they wouldn t even consider that.
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I know.
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But you and Lisa would have been so.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, this is wonderful.
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I mean, yeah.
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So.
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I mean, it was it did.
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I kind of bought into that culture, too, like you have three women and seven to ten guys.
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And that s how it is.
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Too many women.
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That s right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was a good ratio.
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Twelve guys and three women.
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I really enjoyed that.
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In fairness, it was true that there was, you know, talk about not enough for the women.
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And it was true.
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So and it s very it s I think nowadays they re more cognizant of it because there s a lot of great women have come through there.
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Yeah, I think I think you changed everything.
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I think she revolutionized us now.
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Yeah.
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And doing update and writing and bringing women in.
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And yeah.
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And pointing out that there s no reason not to have the women that if all the sketches are so male focused, that there s only women as weird archetypes in sketches here and there.
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It s like you re never going to get the women use.
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You have to really change your whole point of view.
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And I don t I wasn t there, but and I don t even know Tina Fey, but I I sense that there was a huge revolution took place.
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That was a good one.
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You know, it s funny when Tina was there, that was it sounds crazy.
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That might have been the first time when there s like a sketch with all women.
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Yeah.
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Where people would be like, what?
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Well, she wrote about that in her book.
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I mean, not about the sketch, but just about why you couldn t have a whole sketch group that was all women or like, why can t why wouldn t you be able to think up a lot of sketches for a lot of women that didn t happen to have a man in it?
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You know, like and and I was I had that prejudice myself.
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Like, I really thought, oh, yeah, you think of something for a guy to do.
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And then you think how you could come in, you know, like it.
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It took a long time for me to see how much the sexism was even in myself.
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Yeah.
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And that that was sort of the way it was.
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We were all there around the same time.
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And I remember it was just the way it was thought of good or bad.
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It was just the way it was thought.
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Yeah.
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It s amazing how you don t even question certain things like I thought of myself as a liberated, progressive person.
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And yet I didn t.
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I thought, oh, yeah, it will always be three women and ten guys.
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Well, also they Sarah Palin came in as a vice presidential candidate.
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So that was and then Hillary later.
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So that gave two political parts that were, you know, I don t know who you could do back then, really.
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I mean, Senator Feinstein, she was there.
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Oh, you said you did Chelsea.
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Did it say that you that she had that rubbed somebody wrong?
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Yeah, Hillary.
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Oh, you did Chelsea.
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OK, Chelsea Clinton.
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And then Hillary, I don t like it.
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Oh, and then people were saying how unattractively I was playing Chelsea.
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And all I did was wear makeup and put braces on.
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I was like, if you say that, you re saying I m unattractive, like which maybe that s so.
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But it s like that s like I wasn t trying to play unattractive.
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With all that prosthetics, you made her look horrible.
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You re like, I just went I just watched my face and then I walked in.
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Yeah, I just didn t wear makeup and put on braces.
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That was it.
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And a wig, a long wig, curly wig.
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But anyway, but I understood what Hillary was saying, especially now that I m a parent.
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Like it s like, yeah, fuck off.
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You know, I mean, don t play kids.
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I mean, that was wrong.
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She was right.
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That was wrong.
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What about when Farley played show apology?
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Who was the mayor or was it whose kid did Farley play?
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And he played him like such a moron, jumping all over his dad.
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And while he s giving a speech.
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Oh, yeah.
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Was it Phil?
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Was it Giuliani?
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I can t remember.
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Giuliani s 10-year-old boy Andrew.
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Yeah, and he would just wear a suit and grab and eat hamburgers.
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I would have been furious, of course, if you had to watch that as your own kid.
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Yeah.
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We did a lot of things that we couldn t do now.
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I was in Lyle Bullock, the effeminate heterosexual.
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I know, but I can t people mention that to me so often.
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I mean, people love that.
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That describes the type of person and behavior that is recognizable that hadn t been labeled yet.
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I mean, like that was at least in a pop culture sense.
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So I feel like that.
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And I think that s true.
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That is true.
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There are people who are feminine and heterosexual who are men.
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Yeah, that s a true thing.
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I mean, like.
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Right.
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And you slow it down.
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It sounds better.
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I don t see how people could be offended by it.
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Well, what I found out later that that pained me was that I think it was the mixer in the booth.
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The gentleman at the time was gay.
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And when that sketch came on, he recused himself.
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Oh, really?
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Someone else worked to leave her.
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So why does he think that being effeminate mannerisms is
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pejorative towards a gay person.
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I mean, right.
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It goes both ways.
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You re right.
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You know, like I guess.
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I don t.
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Yeah, I find it hard to understand some of the stuff that people object to.
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But anyway, I m with you.
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We re we re comedians and we re not very offendable and we want to say the thing you re not supposed to say.
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It s just instinctual and do the thing you re not supposed to do.
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And so we re not normal.
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And then but that one I couldn t do today.
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And I did an Asian character, too.
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We re making our way to a character called Pat, too, which has had a resurgence in notoriety in the last few years.
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I mean, there s been a lot of talk about it.
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We were way ahead of the game on that.
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Or behind.
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That s right.
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I. Yeah.
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I mean, the thing for me is that I always thought the joke was mostly about the people who were around Pat, who were so flummoxed, who were so freaked out, which I thought was Christine and I at the beginning, because we wrote all those sketches together.
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Zander, Christine Zander, as we said at the beginning, the jokes are not on Pat, except that Pat looks weird and drools and is annoying.
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It s not because people aren t going to laugh at Pat for Pat s androgyny.
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What we re laughing at is the people around Pat.
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How do we understand it?
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That Pat s androgynous.
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So to me, it makes them frustrated.
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Yeah.
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And so but that s a subtle comedy thing, you know, that people
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Yeah, there s people.
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Yeah, there s a lot of people upset by Pat.
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And it s and the truth is, I wasn t thinking of androgynous people as an SNL audience.
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You know what I mean?
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I was doing a character like we re laughing at this idea.
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If I if I thought the audience was filled with androgynous people, I probably would have played it a little differently.
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You know what I mean?
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Like we didn t think of those people as our audience.
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But now you would now you would it would be aware of them.
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But then to me, to me, the character forget that it s Pat and no one knows whether it s a man or a woman.
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is just a funny character.
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You know, that s what I mean.
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The way she moved, the way she talked, it was just a funny character.
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Goofy.
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I guess if I did it again, I would make Pat more enigmatic and make it clear that it was about the other people and not Pat.
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Almost more Charlie Chaplin asked, like just people not talking much.
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just just about everyone else s reactions.
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Yeah.
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But anyway, no one s asking me to do that.
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So no, I do.
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It s never too late for it s Pat to you know, I think it s time for another one.
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We do it for eight million at Warner s.
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Oh, wait, let me tell you the saddest story.
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OK, I love it.
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I was going to I was going to New York and I was going to go to SNL and bring my daughter who hadn t.
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I guess we ve gone twice in her life.
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But this was one of those times.
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And
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The Supreme Court had just had a case where they had brought up Pat at the Supreme Court during the case.
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And Alito didn t know who Pat was.
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And then there were these jokes about it.
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And.
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Lauren and I had been emailing each other for something else, I think I had to get permission for something anyway, we had had this email and and.
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Either here, I was like, oh, it s not funny that the Supreme Court joked about Pat and who on the Supreme Court knew who Pat was or whatever.
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And then he said, when you when you go to the show next week, bring your pad outfit with you to New York, because maybe, you know, I don t know.
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Who knows?
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You know, maybe we ll do something out of the Supreme Court thing.
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But then the actual act of the sad fact of me, you know, like at 58,
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not at really packing my bad outfit in a suitcase and bringing it a little hoping, hoping that maybe we do a basket like it was really.
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And of course, no one even mentioned it.
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And the whole like I had to bring the fucking suit.
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And it was so it was such an offhand comment.
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And then I took it.
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I shouldn t have.
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Oh, God.
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Every time I was on a hanger, did you show up with it on a hanger?
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Here s my outfit.
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Yeah.
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It s a really good opening.
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Or is it an update piece?
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And everyone s like, is what?
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No, no, no one even mentioned it.
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And then it was like in front of my husband and daughter, which we all just took carry on.
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It s like, no, I have to check my my path.
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And then and then it s like, oh, well, I guess I I really didn t need to.
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How come how come church lady never got together with Pat?
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Why was Pat not on church chat?
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That seems like we should have done that.
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God, I always travel with my Tom Petty hat.
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he did it no matter where i don t know about the chops right workshops and workshops in the side of this you know you never know when someone who wanted a birthday party or something when you put when you came on you uh...
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Well, you started I started for four weeks.
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Of the end of a season with Schneider, and then I think you started with Rock and Farley that that was there.
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I came and visited the show when he did his Patrick Swayze sketch.
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Oh, I watched that show from the audience, but I wasn t on the show yet.
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So you came in midseason probably, right?
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Well, no, it was just I think it was the next episode.
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Oh, OK.
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Maybe I knew I was going to start, but I wasn t in that episode.
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Yeah.
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I came the week before to look at a show.
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They said, why don t you come early?
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And I think that may be what they do to us.
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But and you watch it and going, oh, my God, I m going to be part of this shit.
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It s moving so fast.
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I have no idea what s going on.
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I think it s scary watching a practice show, knowing projecting yourself out there a week later.
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How will I be out there?
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But you guys are you re because you guys see to me it wasn t but.
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It wasn t scary to me, but that s not saying that it shouldn t have been scary.
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But I think because of doing sketches at the groundlings, like I it was just like I was in so many sketches and you had to learn it was very similar to being at the ground.
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Yeah, yeah, you re right.
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That s right.
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That s different for me and Dana, because we didn t seem scary.
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I just I actually had the opposite.
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Like I thought as I watched it, I thought, oh, I can do this.
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I can do this.
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Oh, good.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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So you come in and you see all of us.
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So, Phil, you knew and you have great admiration for Phil.
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And you guys were for my teacher at.
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Oh, teacher.
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Yeah.
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God, who s better to teach?
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He s so good.
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Oh, my God.
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No, he changed my life with his teaching.
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He was such a he could really not very many comedians can explain why they re funny and how they do it.
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And he could, you know,
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Funny thing about Phil seeing around the office is how, Dana knows him way better, but how unassuming and how egoless, and he s always thinking about other things at work when I m only thinking about SNL, but he s so good, he would be like, hey, I might go fishing this weekend, or hey, and then you think, how are you thinking of one other thing?
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This is driving me mental to try to, but he s just great.
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I just remember how organized he was.
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He had his folder, all the sketches, all the lines, he really made sure he knew his lines.
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Oh, he s so good, yeah.
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He took it so seriously.
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Yeah.
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And then he was he was so disciplined around it.
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And then he would have a Popular Mechanics or some kind of Motorboat Today magazine.
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If you look at the schematics of an Evinrude and then he put it down and then he d go in a rehearsal scene.
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Nail it.
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Perfect.
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Go back out.
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I think he had that red hard cover that says Saturday Night Live in the corner in that circle.
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And then it was like a red hard notebook and you d open it up three ring binder and you put.
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That s right.
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Yeah.
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I d put my two pages of script for that week in there and open up my update.
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It s a consistent theme with David.
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He had a rough time.
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I keep saying it.
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And then so you got along pretty much like you knew.
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What were your first thoughts of like an Adam or something?
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What s my first thoughts about what about like Sandler or Farley?
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Sandler came a little later, I think.
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Oh, right.
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Maybe a year later.
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Yeah, I think he wasn t there right away.
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Ellen Cleghorn was with you.
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Yeah.
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Siobhan Fallon.
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Yeah, I love Siobhan.
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Melanie Hutzel and Beth Beth for each season.
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Beth Cahill.
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Those were kind of your
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I didn t really know Beth very well.
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They were she was just there for one year.
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But yeah, I mean, it was exciting.
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I mean, of course, it was the most exciting thing.
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You re at the center of the universe and you re at the top of what you would want to be for your.
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You know, we are skill set.
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I mean, like it s the best.
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I mean, it was the greatest, most thrilling thing.
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I would say it was completely great till the last year.
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And at first, what happened the last year?
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Well, I for one thing, the sketches changed.
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They were more bro sketches.
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And who would be doing that?
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And I wasn t there was no place for me in those sketches.
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I mean, like there was no and I wasn t getting my own stuff on and no one was casting me.
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And Christine had left.
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That was the big thing.
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So we had written together every week and she d gone to work on Third Rock from the Sun with Bonnie and Harry and Xander.
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And I I just was lost without her, frankly.
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And and I felt like the sketches were more
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I remember something.
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I mean, that s why it was kind of terrible.
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There was some sketch where they had to have a beautiful woman.
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And I was listening to everyone talk about how none of the women who were on the show could.
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Oh, a beautiful woman.
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Yeah.
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And they had to bring in a model.
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Because there was literally no one there that even with makeup and everything who could pass as.
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sexual like.
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And so and then I was like, wow, I m oh, my God, really have.
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I mean, not that I would have necessarily been that choice anyway, but it s like.
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That point of view, there just was no room for me.
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Now, looking back, I think I should have pushed harder of my own comedy and I should have.
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You know, shoulda, woulda, coulda, but everybody does.
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But well, Xander and the Turners, who have people listening, Bonnie and Terry Turner were great writers together.
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Christine Xander was wonderful.
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So so having them in your corner or at least a piece of it or something.
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Yeah, it really takes a chunk away and you need every piece to keep going.
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And if you have a little bit slipping and I knew it would be harder, but I didn t know it would be devastating.
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You know, I didn t know that it would be.
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Hmm.
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I thought bottom would drop out.
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Yeah.
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The bottom really seemed to drop out.
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And so there were for the first time there were sketches I have shows I wasn t even in it, you know, like and.
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Yeah, that was hard.
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It was really hard.
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I could hardly wait to leave at the end of that year.
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But up until then, though, it was fantastic.
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Yeah, sure.
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It really was very exciting.
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Yeah.
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It seemed like you I was there three three years with you.
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And it just seemed like you were really, really active in the show.
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Yeah.
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And I think that was a big part was my youthful enthusiasm and also Christine.
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Yeah.
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Who wrote the reconciliation sketch?
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It was such a me that actually I had written that sketch.
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Well, Christine and I wrote it together.
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But I had had the idea and done a kind of early form of that sketch.
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Describe what it what it was.
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I mean, well, it was.
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Now I m thinking, is that really true?
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Well, it s the one with Alec Baldwin plays the handsome priest.
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It was Alec Baldwin came on and he s so handsome.
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And, you know, he s just he s like he s one of those guys who s handsome and funny, as you know, blah, blah, blah.
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Yes.
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And I was telling Christine that in my Catholic high school, they had changed confession and they now called it reconciliation.
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And you looked at the priest in a room instead of going to a confessional.
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And that at our high school, I went to an all girls Catholic high school and the priest was Father Boley.
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And he was so handsome that people would get so distracted telling them their sins.
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That s funny.
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Couldn t like he was so handsome.
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Father Baldwin.
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And then I would go in and start flirting with the priest and then it was creepy and everything.
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And that I would start making up sins just to stay in the confessional, you know, like just so we could keep this conversation going.
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Yeah.
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And so we wrote that with an Alec came in and wrote it with us.
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I mean, at least parts of it with us.
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And God, that was really fun.
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It was so much very, very funny.
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He was perfect casting.
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And then you were you played it beautifully.
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I mean, it s just and then the best thing about that, we had written a line at the end where because I m like, I, I cheated on my diet.
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And he s like, well, that s not really a sin.
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And I m like, oh,
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And then he goes, but I know I know what it s like to, you know, try to go on a diet.
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What did you cheat with?
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And I go, I ate a whole box of Oreos.
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And he says, oh, do you like to unscrew it and eat out the creamy center or something like that?
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There you go.
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And then the standards and practices like you can t say eat out the creamy center.
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We suggest you say lick out the cream.
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They always get it more pornographic.
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It s so funny every time.
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Classic.
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OK.
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Wow.
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Can you say go down on the Oreo?
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I think that would be better.
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Yeah, I haven t.
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I, um, this is just a Catholic, uh, 22nd story.
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My wife and I were married in Catholic church.
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The priest, we went to dinner with him, this and that.
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They usually have a few pops, you know what I mean?
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and my wife, very pretty, 23 at the time, gets up, goes to the bathroom with her tight jeans.
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He looks and says, if you don t marry her, I will.
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That was the priest.
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Good night, that s all I got.
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David?
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Julia, were you there when Alec, I m just looking at your thing where it says, you brought up Alec, and then it says, she demonstrated an early talent for mimicry.
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What is that?
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Is that like an IMDB or something?
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Characters.
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Awesome.
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I love a character.
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By the way, I was not good at mimicry and people were often, you know, assigning me famous people to play.
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And I feel like I really was like C, C minus at that.
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It feels like more special skills at the bottom.
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Mimicry.
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I heard you re good at mimicry.
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You re a mimic in third grade.
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Do you remember Dana?
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I don t think Julie was there, but
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Alex, first show is my like third one.
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And he did a sketch called The Mimic, unless he did it later.
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Oh, I think we have done it when he came.
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He had already done that.
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This is stupid.
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And he was so funny because the mimic and he pick up the phone and go, hello, because he can do anything.
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And then he was like kind of bad at all of them.
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And because he actually is good at all these accents and stuff, but they just he dressed all black.
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Well, the classic was Frank Gorshwin.
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He was a brilliant impressionist on Ed Sullivan in the 60s, and he would do the classic turn away from the camera and kind of fluff his hair up and then come back, which is like, look at me now, you know.
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I like that.
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I like that kind of impression.
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Yeah, we can do voices.
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So, Dana, do you you live in L.A.
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now, not in Mill Valley anymore?
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I was just in Mill Valley.
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The actual address is no.
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Yeah, I was just there.
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We have the 1912 haunted house up there.
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And I ve experienced I don t know if I
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Believe it, but poltergeist up there.
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What?
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And I told Dan Aykroyd about it.
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And he says, I got to get someone in there.
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Check it out.
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It s in one particular bedroom.
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And at night I would hear white noise because my son had moved out of that bedroom and moved in with his brother because he felt and I would hear white noise because there was a portable radio there.
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So I would walk in and then the white noise would stop all that.
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I m going to share with you.
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And it happened, you know, a couple of times a year.
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And I saw some things.
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Anyway, I m in.
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I know the top paranormal debunker in the United States.
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if you re interested.
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I don t necessarily believe in it.
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I ve had the nightmare where you feel a pressure on your chest, even though you re in a waking dream state.
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And that made me leave the San Ysidro Hotel one night with my wife at three in the morning.
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I woke her up and said, we have to go now because I felt the pressure on my chest when I m sleeping and bouncing up and down on me.
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And then I went and used the bathroom thought, OK, that s a
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I was dreaming.
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Then I laid back down and I felt like I was awake as I am right now.
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And then massive pressure that felt angry, pushing down on me.
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And I was just couldn t move.
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And then it released me.
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Didn t you have heart issues?
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Like, isn t there a physical explanation for that?
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Yes.
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I had seven stents and a botched bypass 25 years ago.
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Look at me now.
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Those are my issues.
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Let me charge.
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But I mean, there s I mean,
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There s always a natural explanation.
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Oh, by the way, Julia, I know a paranormal bunker.
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They should meet your debunker.
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Dana, I get scared at my house because I just moved and I don t want to hear that story because I hear like clicking in the house, settling in quotes, but it s like, and Julia will say it s a house settling, which I say, because I can t in the middle of the night when it s dead silent, you re so scared.
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You re like, I have to think of a reason what s going on.
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Cause it s always scary, but I haven t felt pressure or anything like that.
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I would fucking freak out.
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Oh, I read it out since I became a person who doesn t believe in supernatural in any way.
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Yeah.
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I never get scared.
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I mean, I get scared when I think there s a reasonable chance that something s truly wrong.
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But that kind of stuff, I doesn t even I just think there s some things making the sound.
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Yeah, I m not I m not frightened of it at all.
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I because I never got hurt.
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It just flipped me out the first time.
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But I don t know if I said this, but I Mike Myers, who kind of read the encyclopedia as a five year old.
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You know, nightmare is from the word, you know, it s some medieval Latin prefix for a mare, and I eat a horse, feels like it s laying on top of you.
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And it s just a waking dream state.
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I read about it in the New York Times.
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The brain disconnects.
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David, you re fine.
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That scared me, and I ve never heard about the horse part, but I like it.
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Julia, you were in Coneheads.
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No, you were in Coneheads, weren t you?
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That was sort of a sign.
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Wasn t it or no?
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You weren t.
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Well, I remember thinking I m playing the principal and Chris Farley s playing a high school student and we re only like four years apart in age.
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That tells you a lot about.
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Yeah, that was fun.
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I don t remember that much about it.
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Yeah, I was in it, too.
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Believe me, we were all in it.
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I think as I think Lauren just said, David, you ll be reporting to Conehead.
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I was like, oh, yes, I think it was like it was like you just were told that you were going.
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But David, you know what I remember is that sketch you wrote, not necessarily for me, but I got to be the main comedy driver of it.
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I always bring that up in the sketch.
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Remember the sketch where I go on the date and I just keep ordering expensive food and then I start talking about how I m not going to put out trying to push me towards the more cheap, the cheaper food.
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Do you remember that?
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I don t.
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That s hilarious.
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And you came to me and said, I have this idea for you.
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I m going to write the sketch.
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And it was wow.
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I m forgetting who the guy was, but it was some handsome guy.
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And I m just and the whole thing was like me, like, oh, I m so happy to be on the same old lobster and steak.
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That s what I m going to get.
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And then it s like, I just want to tell you that I don t ever have sex with anyone.
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And then it kind of goes.
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I mean, it wasn t that obvious, but it was really well written.
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And when people say those guys at SNL, they were so, you know, together and not, you know, really into the women that much.
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I say David Spade wrote a sketch for me.
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That was one of the best things I ever did.
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That s so great.
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I love that.
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And you know, he wasn t even in it.
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He just wrote it.
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You know, like I can t believe it was a very loving thing to do.
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I don t know how much it meant about me, but I took it.
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That s a very, well, first of all, I did great, as you write.
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I know you re good.
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That s I knew you re good.
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And it s fun to have a sketch and you got probably had the host in there.
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But when you get the funny parts, because it s really hard.
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Yeah.
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I mean, because usually you re not getting to be the driver of the comedy and you and that this character was.
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I mean, it was really the host was kind of just reacting to me and you had just written it.
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And it was just the most wonderful gift.
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I mean, it was just an incredible thing.
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I and I bring that up at least once a month.
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I m telling people that.
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And David s so nice.
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And David doesn t remember.
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I said, that s the most baffling part of the sketches I wrote.
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I didn t write that many.
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That s crazy.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you.
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And I m glad
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you did it and I m glad you remember it and say it.
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That s great.
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Um, I don t want to talk about me forever, which I, but I like that.
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You want to talk about the, not many people, this will go full circle, got a movie out of a character like, and you did, there was no church lady movie.
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There was a Stuart Smalley movie.
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There was a pat movie in the nineties with anybody else.
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of a character.
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I think those were the two.
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Those two should have been in the movie together.
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They would have been great.
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I know it.
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But is that a bittersweet memory or is that a good one?
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Bittersweet.
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I had such a good time making it.
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We didn t know what we were doing.
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I didn t do it with Lorne.
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I didn t understand the politics.
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He wanted to do it.
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But then
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Oh, didn t he own it?
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Didn t he own the character?
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No, I was one of the people when I came in, my lawyer got me to own Pat.
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Oh, OK.
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Matter.
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I mean, got it.
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So you owned it and did it outside the system.
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So I could have because I had done that character at the groundlings.
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I I don t know why anyway.
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So he did.
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So it was my choice.
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And I think I made a dumb choice not to have learned to be the producer of it, because of all kinds of awful things happen, aside from the fact that we didn t write a good script.
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I mean, like.
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You know, so I don t know.
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It was really fun to do it and it was really fun to make it.
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Oh my God, it was so much fun and I learned so much and then it was really a big bomb.
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But I always felt grateful for it.
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And I am I wrote to Eisner afterwards and said how I know I made it.
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I know I just wasted eight million dollars of your money.
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Really?
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But I learned so much and had a great time.
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And I know that shouldn t compensate for it because that s a lot of money.
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But I just want to say everything about it was really great.
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And thank you.
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I ll never forget that, obviously.
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And then he sent that letter around Disney as like, here s somebody who s grateful for failing.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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You know, Julia, I did that with a movie once and I, and I, I think that s so cool.
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You did that.
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I, I felt so bad after a movie.
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I called the guy and said, uh, I appreciate you doing it.
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I m just so sorry.
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I didn t do what you wanted kind of thing.
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And I don t think he wrote me back, but, uh, I do think for myself, I felt like I need to do that.
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Like now, of course, everything s so different now, but I, I,
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I don t know how I would have done it differently and maybe I wasn t really up to the task of turning that into something successful, but.
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It wasn t.
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And and, you know, yeah, but I got the chance.
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I mean, I got the chance.
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But, Julie, is it hard to take a sketch?
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I m sorry.
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Yeah, no, no.
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That s take a sketch.
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Difficult.
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And and you ve done a sketch and you feel like a lot of the good jokes is the reason the sketch is doing well.
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And then you re not really starting from scratch, but to fill the whole.
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Yeah, no, I think it is.
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I mean, actually, it wasn t till late.
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I didn t watch all the Charlie Chaplin movies till
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much later in my life.
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And when I watched them, I realized not that Pat is in the character of Pat is anything like the Charlie Chaplin character, but that the way he was enigmatic and let everyone else be reacting to him while he was doing physical things would have been the way that I think it could have succeeded.
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But I didn t know enough.
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to know that I was in some very shitty movies, but I never felt like I was driving the boat.
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But I do think that funny with the sound off, like if the sound broke on a Pat movie, it would be nice to think it could still work.
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But to solve that dilemma, especially, you know, Stuart Smalley, these are quirky characters.
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They re not.
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Yeah, I think Wayne and Garth just follow Bill and Ted and they re like dudes, you know, party on.
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They re very accessible.
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And to make Pat
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Yeah.
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It would be a challenge because it s such an eccentric character, but visually it s funny.
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It s sort of more for adults and Wayne and Garth could be for adults or kids.
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They can get into it too.
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Mostly kids.
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But, you know, Stuart Smalley, I watched I did I when I lived in Chicago for 10 years and I was helping to teach at the Harold Ramis Film School.
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They have this film program that I was teaching.
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I was really not teaching.
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It was a friend of mine teaching it, but I kind of helped for one semester.
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And we were watching some Harold Ramis movies and he directed Stuart Smalley.
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And so we watched it.
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And you know what?
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I liked it.
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I thought it was a successful film.
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I you know, I mean,
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It it was it s it s a really quirky movie, but I was really unlike Pat.
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When I watched the movie, I was like, yeah, this doesn t work.
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I mean, this really didn t work.
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But Stuart Smalley, I thought, works.
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Yeah, I mean, Harold Ramis is so talented.
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I think talking Al Franken, I think he s going on Fallon soon.
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And I told him he should he should do Stuart Smalley for the young audience and hold Jimmy s hand, make it all about Jimmy, you know, good enough, strong enough, you know, that kind of thing.
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So.
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Oh, my God.
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You know, I almost canceled myself, except that no one cares if I m canceled.
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Uh, because after Al Franken s debacle and demise from the Senate, I was so angry and upset.
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I was so angry I couldn t sleep for a month.
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I was so angry.
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And then I wrote a one person show about it and did it for like five Saturdays at the Groundling Small Theater until people came up and said, Julia,
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First of all, this isn t even funny in any way.
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It was just me.
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I was all I did.
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I went through all the allegations.
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Allegation number four.
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You know, like I was I was crazed with anger at how the MeToo movement had been twisted up in the worst possible way to go after this great guy, in my opinion, and complete.
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I was so angry, you guys.
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And then I had somebody come and say, you know, you ll never work again if you open this show, because it s really just
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Even though I m a me too supporter.
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But when it came to Al Franken, I just could see how that all that shit went down.
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And it was bullshit.
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And it was.
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And then people weren t talking to me.
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And then I finally just dropped it because I couldn t make it entertaining enough.
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It really was a show of me for 90 minutes talking about each allegation against Al Franken and why my bulletin board and this and why and why and why.
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And
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And I think that s when I really went over on the other side of the culture, because I felt like, OK.
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This I m so angry about this, it s so unfair and.
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And yet the culture is, you know, I m not I can t influence the culture and I m just going to wreck my own career and health over it.
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So I kind of just dropped it.
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And then I also realized I didn t really have the standing for anyone to care.
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about it, you know, what I thought about it.
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So I couldn t really even help him.
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And then later I finally saw Al Franken and then I realized he didn t really care if I was doing that either.
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I was like, oh, I ve just been doing a one person show about you.
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And he s like, oh, oh, thanks.
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You don t have to.
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It s kind of scary because anybody if someone from high school said I looked at him wrong in nineteen seventy three or something.
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Exactly.
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It s just like, whoa.
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I mean, you know, there s there s the other the big players.
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We don t have to name them where it s pretty obvious.
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Yeah, exactly.
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There was a lot of people that maybe behaved a little boorishly or something.
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But to be canceled for life is just a bit much.
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No, it was really that was really anyway, I didn t mean to take us into sad territory, but that was really, really, really just fucking got my goat.
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I just couldn t believe it.
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I couldn t believe it.
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And I wanted I just couldn t I couldn t think of anything else.
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And it took a long time to just.
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except that s how life goes in an unfair way sometimes for some people.
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And that s how it s always been.
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I mean, like not for everyone, obviously not for everyone.
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But sometimes you re at the wrong place at the wrong time.
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It s I keep thinking it s almost like there was a huge pile up on the road and Al Franken was driving on the outside of the road and his fender caught it and he just caught up in it.
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You know, like.
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one thing about al you can rest assured he s he s a uh... very resilient obviously and it s not a bad yet no no when i saw him he s already had a million ideas yeah i have a sky the gear change question for you you have a way again if you re going to just you know i guess i m sorry
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No, I don t care.
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We love we love all of it.
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We love all listeners.
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I just before I got off, I wanted to ask you if you if I read that you felt badly that you might have cracked up during motivational speaker.
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And I never thought of that of you.
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I never thought anything negative about that.
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I thought I did.
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I did.
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I do have a problem controlling laughing during sketches.
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I didn t really think that of you.
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I thought I fucked that sketch up.
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Me and Christina ruined it.
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But we were just laughing, which didn t really ruin it.
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It was just it just it was so rare to happen.
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Yeah.
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It was really just seeing the funniest thing.
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And you knew that I was going to live forever.
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And you re in the middle of it and you have the best seat in the house.
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And I can t
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and stop laughing like I did Farley in that character.
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I said it on another podcast.
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I think that s the most I don t know, most potent thing Sony s ever done.
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Maybe it just the way he squatted and got ready for his next line.
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It s very crisp moves.
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They were just it was like it was like Chaplin s he s just going to get squatted, get set with his body before.
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Yeah, I that might have broke me if I was in it.
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I think so.
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Yeah.
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Phil might be the only one that didn t laugh.
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I know Phil is so good.
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He could really.
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I couldn t control it.
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I couldn t control myself.
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We all started to break.
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And that s the problem is that we and back then I think they do it more now.
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They crack up a lot.
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Yeah, it was definitely a no, no.
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No, it was terrible to do that.
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You were being like, yeah, Carol Burnett show now.
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Yeah.
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We didn t have as much fun as we could have had, you know, because I was just you get fired.
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I mean, when Phil finally broke,
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Phil finally broke doing Tonto, Tarzan, and Frankenstein.
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And he s Frankenstein, he crashes through the thing or whatever.
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And then that first time, Phil broke.
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Phil was done.
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Fire, bad.
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And then he was, I was toast.
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And I thought, wow, this is amazing.
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Is he going to be in trouble?
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There s always fear on that.
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Yeah, there was.
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I wonder what it s like now, because I was thinking, you know, Lauren is so much older now than the people who are performing than he was from our age.
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You know, like for us, he was kind of an older guy, but now he s a much, much older guy.
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Yeah.
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Seventy six.
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And then a new cast members like twenty two.
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Right.
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I mean, that s a whole different feeling.
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I mean, yeah.
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I wonder what it s like.
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I don t know.
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The meetings are like, who s your favorite rappers, rap singers?
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Right.
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Is Dr. Dre really a doctor?
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Does anyone know?
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I think they always seem to find a way that show to find great people.
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You know, you know, it s an incredible success that I didn t I didn t think I thought, oh, it ll go for a few more years, but you really have to hand it to him.
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I mean, like,
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It s really incredible.
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He is the show.
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And he never panicked because there were so many years of like, we got to do it taped or we got to change the name and change the band.
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And he knew he had an incredible brand and he just stuck to it.
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And like Steve Higgins said, Lorne wrote the Constitution of the House.
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And then he lets it s a it s liquid form.
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It can be whatever it becomes, because now going full circle with women, they play a lot of men.
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on the right.
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You probably would have done George Bush or Ross Perot.
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Yes.
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Well, the reason I played Pat at first is I was trying to play a man, but I didn t feel like it was very convincing.
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And so I thought, oh, I ll just make a joke that you don t know if it s a man or a woman to kind of cover for my lack of acting ability.
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But now I probably wouldn t think that I think I could just play a man if I want it.
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Julia, can we just get up because we need something to trend?
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You know, we re we re behind smart list, but we re getting close.
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Do you in inside your mind, have you ever thought to yourself, was Pat a man or a woman just internally to yourself?
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Do you know the secret?
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I m sorry.
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There is no secret.
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There s no secret.
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You know, you wish I could.
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So you had a little soundbite.
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You could.
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Yeah, I know.
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I was making fun of soundbites.
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Here s a soundbite.
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Church lady wasn t religious.
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No, I don t.
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We could have done a church lady becomes an atheist.
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That would have been fun.
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Oh, I do think church lady with Pat.
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would have been perfect, you know.
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You know what I think is that they just live together and you just don t ask questions about that relationship.
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They moved in together, you think?
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I just think it d be funny if they just like you find out that they live together for 35 years in separate rooms, you know, but it s just.
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Yeah, I just says we anyway, that would be.
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We like to get dressed, don t we, in our clothes?
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Well, we have our special clothes on that fit us in a certain way, so we can t tell quite what we are under.
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Dana, do you have anything else for the lovely Julia Sweeney to ask her?
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So you guys are both mainly living in L.A.
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now.
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I m living in L.A.
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Are you?
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Are you back from Chicago?
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And OK, so I bought a house in 1992 that I thought was going to be a starter house, but it s an ender house.
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And prices have gotten pricey.
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No, because I couldn t afford to live in this neighborhood.
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There s no way.
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No chance.
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So now we re my husband.
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I just married about 15 years ago.
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And my husband and I. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He s a good guy.
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Go ahead.
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And we re remodeling that house.
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It s a small house, but it s perfect for two retired people.
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And so we re remodeling it and we re living next door while it s being remodeled.
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But it s supposed to be done in about a year.
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It s supposed to be done in 10 and a half years.
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So are you?
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It takes a while.
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So when it s done, I want to have you guys over.
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That s more like it ll be really pretty.
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And we can sit in the backyard and I would love it.
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Will you invite us?
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Should I go?
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Do you have my email or Greg will give it to you?
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No, Greg, you give me both their emails.
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Yeah.
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I think I saw you, David, at somebody s
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Who was it?
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Some a party and David at a party.
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Yeah, it s crazy.
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Oh, Dana, those are the good old days.
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But I still go out if it s someone s dinner or some small thing like that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that s what I used to have big parties all the time.
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I used to have a Sunday night party that was huge every Sunday.
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I think I was young.
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Yeah.
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But now I like four to eight small, the right people.
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Nice food early.
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Early and early is the key.
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I like the way I eat.
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I like to eat at four or five.
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I eat at five.
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And so I would have an adult on the same page.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Early fun.
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Maybe Sunday, four to eight.
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Boom.
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Get in.
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Get out.
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Maybe four to seven.
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And you re an atheist.
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So you won t care.
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It s a holy day.
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I am too.
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And I m an agnostic.
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I m pretty sure I m not an atheist.
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I don t know.
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Whatever.
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Joke to come.
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Julia, send us a mass email and get Dane and I on there.
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Julia Sweeney, one of the all time great cast members of Saturday Night Live.
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Thanks for having me.
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It s really nice to see you guys.
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And when your house is done, we will see you.
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And if we don t see you then, we ll see you at the 50th.
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And my hair is going to even be more weird.
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I guess it s pretty close to that now, right?
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Oh, yeah. 2025.
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I don t even know if I would go.
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I m going to get a few little things done right as a right before I go.
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The last one I really cared about being there.
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And it was really important for me, my identity that I was on SNL.
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I m in such a different place now.
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I don t even know if I go because I just feel like, yeah, OK, I know I want to fly.
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You just yeah, I know you can.
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It s it s it s really it s really about Lauren, you know, kind of.
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Well, no, I mean, it is fun, but you don t it s not like you can really talk to people.
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I mean, like you just kind of be in this.
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No, you re going, hey, there s there s there s Bill Hader or there s there s Melanie Hutzel.
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Yeah, I know it s everywhere, but nowhere.
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I like a small party, 68 people.
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I think I ll just I ll have it after you guys go.
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I ll have my dinner party and we ll tell you all the juice.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Juice it up.
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All right, Juicy.
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Julia Sweeney.
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Okay, honey, I ll get your emails.
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Yes, get our emails.
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We d love to keep in touch.
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And so great to see you.
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So good to see you.
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This is a fun part of this podcast, just getting reconnected with old friends.
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All right, bye.
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Bye.
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Bye is awkward.
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