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She s a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Fantastic.
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And he s a serial entrepreneur.
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A very smart cookie.
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And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostick are bringing you along for the ride.
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Get ready for some major realness.
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Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her.
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I had zero plan because I had no idea what to expect.
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I didn t know if someone was going to, like, tell me what to do.
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So when I pull up to the house, they, like, put a mic on me and they re like, OK, go.
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And I go, go where, though?
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They re like, go into the house.
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And so you walk in and you kind of wait for someone to say hi to you in the first
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I would say 30 minutes, I went into the bathroom and I called my mom and I said, I think I m going to faint.
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Like, I shouldn t have done this.
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This is not for me.
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I don t, I don t like it at all.
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And by the end of the weekend, I had met like Hannah and I was like, no, this feels right.
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I just, there s something about her.
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This is like going to be my best friend forever.
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Hannah was like, for sure my security blanket through it.
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I have been wanting to interview Paige on the show for a long time.
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I feel like she was such a breakout star of Summer House.
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I immediately liked her.
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I liked her energy.
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I liked her vibe.
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I liked her style.
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When she came on to Summer House, I had been a fan of the show.
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And she came, I want to say, in like season three.
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And immediately I was like, this girl is funny.
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She s interesting.
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She s sort of like the voice of reason for the show.
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I was also so happy when Paige appeared on my television screen for Southern Charm.
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She s dating Craig, who is like one of the stars of the show.
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And I always look out for scenes with Paige.
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On this episode, Paige dives into what the behind-the-scenes of reality TV is like, how she navigates the dynamic between her castmates, style, dating life.
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She also gives so many good tips, and she talks about her top podcast, Giggly Squad.
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I like this episode because it s multifaceted.
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It goes everywhere.
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It s funny, it s informative, and you get great style tips.
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On that note, let s welcome Paige to The Him and Her Show.
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This is the skinny confidential him and her.
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Paige, I have wanted to interview you for so long.
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I feel like I followed you for so long.
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I mean, right when I saw you on Summer House, I m like, she has it.
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Wait, I need because I have all of your products, obviously, because I brought you balls.
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Okay, wait, I need the drops.
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The drops?
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Yeah, of course.
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Okay.
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Because I was like, wait, how do I not have these drops?
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We ll get you the drops.
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Because you re flying to Southern Charm.
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How did I not know this was a thing?
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She needs the drops.
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I need the drops.
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I have wanted to interview you since I saw you on the show.
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There s something to me as a viewer that was really sparkly about you.
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Thank you.
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When you came in the house, it was like a sparkly energy.
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And I literally said to Michael, she s going to be famous.
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You know, my gosh, thank you.
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You just have it.
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Thank you.
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You have us.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It s a swagger.
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Yeah.
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You just have it.
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So now to have you on the podcast is like very full circle.
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I want to go back to before you were famous.
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What were you like when you were little?
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Probably the same.
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I loved attention and napping.
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I was always a great sleeper So when I was younger, I was actually a child model So that s limited to yeah, I was limited to easy bake oven like I did Like when I was like 12 13, I did like all like teen novel covers so like anything I m like the reading list that summer like I was I
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typically on the cover.
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It was very surreal.
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But at that time, I never wanted anyone to know.
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So, like, no one knew I modeled my whole life, probably until I was in, like, sixth or seventh grade when Limited 2 came out, because every girl got that to their house, like, before school started.
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So I was a child model and I didn t really ever do like sports or anything like that was kind of my thing.
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And that s how I fell in love with like New York City and knew like, OK, one day I m going to move to New York City.
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I thought I was like going to be a model.
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And then I would.
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I m five three.
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So that wasn t happening.
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Where did you grow up, though?
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I grew up in upstate New York in Albany.
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So my mom would drive me down.
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She would like pull me out of school, drive me down like two hours.
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I would do stuff.
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And then I would go back home.
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Maybe that s why this is really weird.
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You sort of like looked familiar.
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Yeah, I had got a lot of that.
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I m not I can t put my finger on it.
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But like,
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Easy bake oven limited to these are all things I had like that s I m like flashing back.
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Maybe there was like a familiar about because limited to that was like the Bible when that got delivered to your house.
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I have no idea what limited to is.
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I m trying to keep up.
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Men would never get the feeling like now I think about it.
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Like if limited to was still around, I feel like I d go in that store and buy everything because you would like go into a trance when you were younger and blow up couch.
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I can t the sticker machine a phone that you could like seal the wires inside.
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Just I know those things.
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I know the wire phone.
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No, no, no, Michael.
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Don t try to get on board with limited to you.
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I ll be right back.
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I ll be back in a couple of minutes.
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OK, so so other than modeling going to school.
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What what was your childhood like you re very close with your mother.
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Yeah, extremely close with my family We I like I said, I grew up in upstate New York and it was I have an older brother.
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We re very Italian My mom s a hundred percent Italian.
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So very like close-knit and
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And I was really like the first one to move away.
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And you would have thought like I moved across the country to like a different country.
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I moved two and a half hours away.
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But it was a big adjustment.
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And my mom kind of had to convince my dad after I graduated college to let me go.
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And my dad said, OK, you have a year in New York City.
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And if you don t figure it out in a year, you re coming home.
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And so when I first moved here for the first six months, I mean, I did nothing like I partied.
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I went out.
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I was like, because I lived at home for college, so I had never been on my own.
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And then I got a job at ABC News, and that was my first job.
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And I always wanted to be a broadcast journalist and thought like I was going to be like a news reporter.
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You kind of are in a way now a news reporter.
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Right, but then it was like you moved to the middle of nowhere, you did it yourself, and like on a farm.
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And I was like, I m not doing that.
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Like, I have to move to New York.
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And that was like right when Instagram was like, people were getting Instagram famous.
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And I was like, I feel like I could do this.
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And so I worked as an assistant for like two years, and then that s when I got the opportunity for Summer House.
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Did you always know when you were little that you were sort of destined for fame because of the modeling and you re moving to New York City?
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Like, you strike me as someone who has sort of, like, a natural confidence.
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I will say I loved, like, being the center of attention, like, in my household.
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Like, I d be up on the kitchen table, like, singing and dancing and being like, Mom, record me.
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Like, I… And I would always be like, on my E!
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True Hollywood Story.
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Like, this is what they re gonna say.
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Like,
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So like growing up, I always thought like, oh, maybe I ll be like an actress or I ll be something.
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And then as I got older, I was like, OK, I m probably not going to be famous, but I like the camera stuff.
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So that s why I went for broadcast journalism.
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Never in my wildest did I ever want to be on a reality TV show or thought that I would be on a reality TV show at all.
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Like even when I got it, I was like, absolutely not.
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Why do that?
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for like how confident I would I think I am and try to be I feel like
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I m equally as sensitive.
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And the first thing that popped in my head was like, I don t think I d be able to handle this amount of people not liking me if that were to happen.
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And so I was really scared about that.
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And my dad gave me the best advice.
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He said, look, do it for one year.
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And if you hate it, you never have to do it again.
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I ll get you out of it.
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Like, don t worry about whatever contract you re signing.
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I ll get you out of it.
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What does your dad do?
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Not literally, I don t think he could have, but like just your dad saying that you re like, okay, like my dad will figure it out.
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I will take care of that.
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He was like, I ll take care of it.
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But he was like, but if you don t do it, you ll never know.
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Like you don t want to look back and be like, what if I did that show?
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And so that s why I did it.
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So are you approached by Bravo or is it something you like audition for or does someone recommend you?
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How does the process work?
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It s more of a casting company reaches out to a bunch of people.
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So like Summer House hired this casting company.
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I think they found like a bunch of just girls Instagrams in New York, and they had reached out to one of my girlfriends at the time and interviewed her and asked her, you know, like, do you have any other friends that you think would be good for the show?
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And she gave my name.
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I did an interview and then I heard nothing like silence.
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And I was like, you know what?
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Everything happens for a reason.
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I wasn t meant to get this.
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I feel fine that I didn t get it.
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And then it was June, like two weeks before the show was starting.
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I was packing to like go away for a wedding with my boyfriend, like my boyfriend who was like at the time wasn t my boyfriend, but it was going to be.
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And they called me and they were like, look, we had two girls drop out and we want you to film this show, but you have to sign a contract today if you wanna do it.
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Ooh, that s a tactic.
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Full-on tactic, but I didn t know that then, I was 25.
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So I was like, okay.
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So I called my parents, told them what happened, signed it, and then started packing for my first weekend of Summer House.
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Had no idea what was gonna happen.
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Didn t really even know anyone on the show.
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When you re walking into that house, that s intimidating.
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Beyond.
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But I also think- Do they film every minute of every day?
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They do.
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Summer House is 24-7 surveillance.
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They re filming when you re in the bathroom.
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There s no area to go away and escape?
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There are no cameras in the bathroom, but if you re in the bathroom with another person, they can come in.
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But there s not surveillance in the bathroom.
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It s kind of real world.
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It s very real world.
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Yeah.
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So that s why when like the Southern Charm guys came and filmed Winterhouse, they were like, what is this?
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Because we re never not filming.
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Because they re used to just doing like that.
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They re used to filming and then you go home at night and then that s it.
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You ll film again the next day.
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But once we step foot in the house, that s it.
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We re filmed until we leave.
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And is it like an environment where as it goes on, you just kind of almost forget that you re being
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100% and whenever I would hear reality TV people say that like, oh you forget the cameras are there I d be like you re stupid like well then open your eyes Like I was like, there s no way that happened.
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I would be mewing the whole time in the first weekend I forgot that they were there
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How?
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You just kind of get, like, accustomed to people being around.
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And I will say, when I first walked into the house, I didn t think about there being lights.
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Like, I just didn t think about it, but there s lights all on the ceiling.
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That s nice, though, because you get a little filter.
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Great lighting.
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But isn t it when you go into bedrooms, there s, like, not even, it s, like, just, like, surveillance cameras, no?
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How am I thinking that wrong?
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No, there are.
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There s they re in the corner.
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And so when I first walked, that s what I would forget.
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I d be like, there s no way.
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Yeah.
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And they get like 10 p.m.
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The big camera guys like that s it there.
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They re done.
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But just the surveillance.
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And then it s just surveillance.
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When you walk into the house, though, and there s all these like girls and dynamics and like it s like an onion in there.
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Yeah.
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How what was your plan to walk in?
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And then what was it actually like walking in?
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I had zero plan because I had no idea what to expect.
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I didn t know if someone was going to like tell me what to do.
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So when I pull up to the house, they like put a mic on me and they re like, OK, go.
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And I go, go where, though?
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They re like, go into the house.
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And I was like, but and do what?
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And they were like, what?
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Like, just go.
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And so you walk in and you kind of wait for someone to say hi to you.
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In the first, I would say, 30 minutes, I went into the bathroom and I called my mom and I said, I think I m going to faint.
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Like, I shouldn t have done this.
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This is not for me.
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I don t I don t like it at all.
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relate to you, this is how I would react.
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And she was like, OK, just get through the like this weekend and then you don t have to go back like you won t go back.
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And by the end of the weekend, I had met like Hannah and I was like, no, this feels right.
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I just there s something about her.
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This is like going to be my best friend forever.
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Hannah was comfortable.
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Yeah.
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Hannah was like for sure my security blanket through it.
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Who was not comfortable?
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I mean, we can see when we watch, but who was not comfortable to you?
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Well, I think because the show, it wasn t the first season, Nide came on for the third season and they were having problems with the second season.
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They kind of needed new people.
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I felt just like a little bit of an energy from the first season people of like, okay, who are you?
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Who do you think you are coming onto our show?
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Which now looking back, I get for sure.
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But it was definitely intimidating because they all knew what was going on.
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And it s kind of like when you re in high school, like they re seniors and then the freshmen come in and you re like, you don t know anything.
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Exactly.
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And that s exactly how it felt.
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So you kind of felt like you had to earn your place.
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on the cast, and me and Hannah got so close, sometimes I almost felt like, oh, do they resent that we got so close or, like, that people like us?
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And so it s a very tricky dynamic to, like, navigate.
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There s also an undertone that I feel as a viewer of hierarchy, like, behind the scenes.
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For sure.
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I can feel like there s like the king of the castle.
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It s like Game of Thrones vibes, like, but that s not showcased on television.
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You can just tell like certain people are put on a pedestal.
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Yeah.
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Lauren s got a notepad out when this stuff s going on.
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I love it.
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No, I ve always said that there should be a reality show about the people that make reality shows because our COVID season
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that we were like all locked in the house together.
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Our whole crew like was fighting and wasn t talking to each other.
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So producers would come in and be like, OK, like what s going on?
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And I d be like, no, no.
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What s going on with you guys?
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Because what are they fighting like you re speaking?
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They like wouldn t tell us because.
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You know, they re not, like, our real, like, legit friends.
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Like, technically, they re, like, our producers, but... So we would never know the gossip, but we could tell, like, something was happening.
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But also, there s an energy within the cast that you can feel... Yeah.
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...off-camera.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah, definitely.
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I mean, I always say, like, it s like any group of friends.
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If you get 12 people in a room, obviously, certain people are gonna be closer to other people.
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Like, it s not...
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You know, it s not like we re all going to be best friends all the time.
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We would be an absolute disaster.
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We go to a party for an hour and a half and leave as quickly as I would be in the bed.
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That s why I d be in the bed watching Summer House.
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No, it would be like, Michael, you re staying in this house for 12 hours with the same people.
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I m like, listen, I usually am out.
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I ghost.
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I do the Irish guy hour and a half.
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People are wondering what happened to this guy.
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And people will always say like, how do you guys not get hung over?
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Like we never see you guys hung over.
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And I m like, you complain about me being in the bed.
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That s me being hung over.
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Like we re drinking all weekend.
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Yeah.
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And so I m like, I need like a minute.
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Why do they complain about you being in the bed?
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Oh God, let s write a thesis on this.
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Hold on, Michael, you gotta get with it.
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You could write a whole dissertation.
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I will watch the show, but I may be not up to the point of the follow-up of people being- I don t want to say it s the persona they gave me because I am in fact the one in the bed, but anytime we re gossiping or whatever, all the girls, we just get in the bed and talk because there s just so many places in the house you can go.
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What are you going to do to go sit on the couch and cross your legs with a spot of tea?
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You re at home, essentially.
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I can see why you re in bed.
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Now that I ve met you, though, I got this weird thing where I can t get fully vested until I meet the person.
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Whenever somebody comes on that is on one of these shows, and I will watch, and I will
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as a casual viewer, but when I meet someone now, I m gonna be screaming at the TV and yelling, and if somebody comments, I m gonna be like, hey, what the fuck are you talking about?
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You know what I mean?
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She just needs her rest.
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People do get viscerally mad that you re in the bed, though.
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It s like hysterical.
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It s so, honestly, though, if that s the worst thing, then I ll take it.
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You re gonna see me in the comments section fighting with people now.
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If that s what they re the most mad at me for, like, fine.
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On the show, I feel like you re the voice of reason.
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I try sometimes, but there are definitely times where I ve like regretted certain things I ve said or like you get just caught up in the moment.
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But I try and look at every situation a little bit more logically.
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Yes.
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Sometimes I m even like, wow, you held your tongue.
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Yeah.
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I m like, I don t know how she held her tongue.
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There are some times too, yeah, where I m like, I could have gone, I could have gone harder.
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Are you like thoughtful and like strategic when it comes to that or is there no strategy and you just show up as yourself?
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You kind of have to, you kind of learn that with trial and error.
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Like obviously, like the first time I was on the show, like I walked in and I was like, okay, what are, you know, what are people gonna think of me watching this?
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But you genuinely can t be anything but yourself because you can lie to the people around you, but there s something about the camera that if you re lying, people immediately pick up on it.
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And it s just like a very odd thing.
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I think it s like people recognize all the body language and all of that stuff.
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Yeah, so you really can t put on a persona too much.
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And also, you have nothing to do with editing.
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We have nothing to do with it.
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So how long are you filming for?
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So we start typically the first weekend in July and we film every single weekend until Labor Day.
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So your whole summer is there?
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Wow.
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Yes.
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I didn t realize it was that long.
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That s a lot of work.
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For some reason I thought this was like a three week thing.
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I haven t had like a summer, summer since I was 25.
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Yeah, that s a lot of work.
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Like you can never just charge off and go to the, you know, you got it.
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You re in that house.
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You re in that house just for the weekends.
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Then we re in the city during the week and we re filming during the week, probably like two days a week.
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So it s a full, yeah.
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But how much physical time do you have to actually be in that house from like a, I guess from like just like a straight, like how many nights in a row do you have to stay in there when you re there?
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Two.
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Okay.
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There are times where we ll have a long weekend and we ll have a party, like a 4th of July.
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That s we ll typically leave like that Monday.
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Okay, I got it.
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At what point do you meet Craig?
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And talk to me about your boyfriends before.
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I want to know the trajectory of the meeting of Craig.
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I saw you dating someone before Craig on the show.
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So I actually, the reason I did the show, I was 25.
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I ll never forget this.
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I was dating a guy.
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We were on and off.
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It was like a classic mid-20s relationship that changes you as a person.
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And he said to me, if you do this show, I ll never speak to you again.
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Oh, I was like, and that s it.
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And I m doing the show.
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Well, also, like, that s so controlling.
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Just it was a very 25 year old vibe.
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It was like we would get back at each other, but it was kind of like the push I needed to feel confident to do it.
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And I don t I m so thankful for him.
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Yeah.
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Thank God.
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I should send a thank you note.
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And then two years into being on the show, I started dating my next boyfriend, who didn t love the idea of his girlfriend or potential wife being on a reality show.
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And I understood it to a certain extent, except that he started dating me and I was already on the show.
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So it s like you knew
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who you knew what you were getting into type of thing.
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Also, you had started to form your career outside of the show.
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There was a lot of opportunity.
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From your perspective, he knew what he was signing up for.
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Yeah, basically.
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And he was older than me, and he wanted to settle down.
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And I totally understood that.
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And ultimately, I just wasn t ready.
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We were in two totally different spots of our lives.
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I definitely contemplated not being on the show anymore and like getting engaged and kind of going in a different way.
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But I literally broke out into hives one night and that was like my sign.
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I was like, wow, my body s really trying to tell me something.
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And I we broke up like the next day.
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I just knew it didn t feel right.
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While I was dating him, we were filming an episode of Summer House, and it was Kyle s birthday, and Craig came to the birthday party, and that s where I first met him.
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But I had a boyfriend at the time, so we didn t really speak at all.
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Did you think he was hot?
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Had such a crush on him, but obviously knew who he was.
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Okay, but where is the Italian guy in all this?
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He s not even around yet.
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Got it.
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He s nowhere to be found.
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Fast forward two years, we all do Winter House.
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Craig s in a relationship.
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So I don t even acknowledge him really.
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That s where the Italian guy comes in.
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That was his first season.
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And then a year later, me and Craig started dating basically.
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I get you and Craig so much.
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I get it.
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I think when you guys got together, I think you guys I mean, you don t have to say anything, but I think you guys are 100 percent going to get married.
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Thank you.
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It s because I think what it was for me.
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This is so weird because I love my reality TV.
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I ve seen both of your shows separately.
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And so when you guys got together, it was like two friends that you set up that made sense.
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Yes.
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Like it just works.
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Like when I met him, I felt
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Just felt something different and my mom even said when I would talk about him.
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I was like a classic any date I would ever go on and be like oh my god I just met my husband like I m literally marrying him and when I started talking about Craig.
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I didn t say any of that
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And my mom was like, wait, I actually think this is real because usually you ll call me and be like, oh, my God, I met my husband.
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And she ll be like, oh, did he ask you any questions about yourself?
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And I d be like, no.
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And but she s like, that s not your husband.
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And with Craig, it was just different.
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I don t I can t explain it.
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It just felt different.
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It kind of parallels with your friendship with Hannah.
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There s something comfortable about it.
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Something so comfortable.
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And I think coming from a relationship where I was almost like embarrassed that I was on reality TV and almost felt like a little bit trashy that I was on it.
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And then to start dating someone who was like, oh my God, everybody loves you.
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You re so good.
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You re so funny.
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Like to just go from that to like this praise felt so different.
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And like for him to get we basically have the same job, him to get certain things that I couldn t explain to someone who has never filmed a reality show.
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There s just certain things you wouldn t understand.
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And so like we had that going that I think was really important.
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It did seem like, again, this is all as a viewer, but it did seem like the people you were with before Craig felt that they were like above reality television, sort of like an elitist and dismissive of what you were doing, which to me is it s so crazy that someone can be dismissive of what you re doing because you ve taken it and really ran with it with everything you re doing, which we re going to get to.
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Yeah, but there was like you could tell there was like a dismissiveness towards you and that makes total sense that because Craig was on a reality television show he understood and I almost feel like now sometimes that s why I m almost a little bit too intense with Craig where I m like, I m not ready to get married I don t wanna I want to like focus on my career for like a little bit longer because I was in those previous relationships where I
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didn t ever like put myself first or my career first.
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And I feel like so strongly about it now being in my 30s.
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And Craig might get like, you know, the brunt of that a little bit.
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But it s so important to me to like be so independent because I had those relationships where I wasn t like I wasn t treated like an equal.
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I was very much treated like a girlfriend who s not as successful.
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And like, yeah, she s just there.
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I think a lot of really strong, confident, successful women can attract these men that try to put them back in the jack-in-the-box and stuff them back in.
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No, I don t think it s that.
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Oh, here he goes.
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No, I don t think it s like you re attracting those kind of men.
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I think a lot of men have a difficult time having a relationship with somebody who s potentially as successful or more successful than them.
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And it s like, I mean, if you think about social constructs, I think
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a lot of people grew up with an example of like the dad being the breadwinner in the mall.
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You know, that s changed obviously.
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I think a lot of men just can t handle with the fact that maybe they re not the one that is going to be in the limelight or being the breadwinner.
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You know what I mean?
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One of the first times I was recognized during Summer House, I was walking down the street with my previous boyfriend, and this guy came up to me and he was like, hey, my girlfriend s such a fan of you, do you mind if we took a picture?
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And it was the first time it had ever happened to me, and I was like, oh my God, this is so exciting.
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Like, yeah, absolutely.
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And I ll never forget, my boyfriend said, oh, I thought they recognized me and were coming up to me.
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I am guilty of that too.
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And I was like, but this guy was not like you wouldn t have known him like at all.
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I was like, what would they have known you for though?
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Like, so he basically was like totally dismissing you and shitting on you to make himself look better.
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So in that moment, I was like, wow, you kind of just ruined such a first time moment for me and made it about you.
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And I like, I should have known then, but
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Yeah, no Craig s Craig s the right guy.
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Yeah, so when you and Craig start dating were you guys secretive about it?
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How did you go about like deciding what to do with that?
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Yeah, so we like official we had started dating probably good juicy sound bite that one of the Like if there s something I ve never said before we had started dating scandalous in September and I
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We didn t people didn t really find out until like two months later, really.
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And it was Bravo.
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That was like Winterhouse was coming out and they were like, we would like for you to say it in press during Winterhouse press, because we hadn t said anything on Instagram.
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I m sure they would.
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And we were kind of like, look, if you want us to, we will.
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But we kind of like that.
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No one knows yet.
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So then finally, like we did say it, but people didn t.
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People, like, didn t love it at first, which I m actually kind of happy about because I think it made Craig and I way closer in the beginning of our relationship than we probably would have been.
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Because we kind of had, like, an equal… We re like, oh, everyone kind of hates us.
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What s the first date he takes you on?
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Like, what s the first moment that you guys fell in love?
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Like, your first kiss?
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Like, what was your first things that you did that we didn t get to see as a viewer?
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So we actually went our first date legitimately was on camera and they never aired it.
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What?
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Yeah.
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And we were so surprised by it because I remember filming that scene and being like, wait, this I can t wait to like watch this back.
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And they never aired the full thing.
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They did like a flashback to it.
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It was so bizarre.
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But so that our first date was legitimately on camera.
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And I was so nervous.
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Like I remember putting like a dirty martini down on the table and my hands were shaking like that s how nervous I was.
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Why were you so nervous?
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I think because like I also not only was I filming this first date, but I was legitimately on a first date with someone.
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And like I liked him.
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And then to have like eight people just watching it is like so nerve wracking.
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And then you also think, like, okay, like, if this doesn t work out, like, am I embarrassing myself?
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Like, does it— do I like him way more than he likes me?
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Like, what are people gonna think?
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So you kind of— there s so many other things you think about rather than just, like, being nervous on a first date.
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—Were you on Summer House or Winter House when this is happening?
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—Summer House.
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—And does he ask you out?
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Like how do we get to the date?
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Did he ask you out?
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Did he start flirting with you?
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He didn t ask me out on camera.
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No.
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Okay.
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Now I like can t even think how it even started.
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How that even started.
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It s going to come on the podcast.
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We re going to dissect it.
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Yeah, we need to.
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But prior to like filming that summer, I would say it was like May, May, like right before
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before Memorial Day.
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And he called me and he was like, do you want to come down for the weekend?
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And that was like the first time we had hung out by ourselves.
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And I stayed for the whole weekend.
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And then that summer, we kind of talked, but he was doing his own thing.
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And then I was filming the show.
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I was kind of doing my own thing.
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And then by the time it was September, I m not gonna lie, I gave him a little bit of like an ultimatum by the end of the summer.
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And I was like, look, we can either keep going and that s fine.
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That s like lovely.
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That would be amazing.
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Or we can stop.
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You can stop doing what you re doing and we can like legitimately date.
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So I was either like we re dating or like I got to go.
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Good.
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That s I love an ultimatum.
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Yeah.
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When you when you go to.
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Is it South Carolina or North Carolina?
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South Carolina.
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Southern charm.
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They re the same, isn t it?
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Wow.
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Okay, when you go to South Carolina and it s completely different from New York City, you can feel like that you re like, this is different.
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What was that like?
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Because you re also like, it s like you re almost going from one reality show to another that has its own set of dynamics and it s completely different energy and environment.
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I, I m going to be honest, I went to an all girls high school.
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So I know when like a girl doesn t like me.
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And I think going down and filming Southern charm, I was so nervous that the girls weren t going to like me because I was coming essentially like onto their show.
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I didn t want them to think like, okay, I m coming on now.
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And like, now this is my show.
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Like I tried to keep a really
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Like a boundary of how much I was getting involved in and how much of a presence I actually was on am on southern charm.
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Because I didn t ever want anyone to feel like I was stepping on their toes and also it s hard to like make girlfriends in general especially in your 30s.
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So I am just always nervous about that.
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I think like I never wanted the girls to dislike me and I never wanted to like be too much involved in their show or we didn t want it to touch your style.
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And also like I am just like so different in how I dress.
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The justification of that.
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Sometimes I m like, come on guys.
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Figure it out.
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Why don t you stay on the show?
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You re like, sometimes like how do you even put that together?
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Where do they sell that, honey?
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So it is like a little bit of an adjustment, but what did you do when you saw?
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Craig s fixer-upper His home.
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Yeah, so when we first started dating you guys I d be like like watching the show didn t even see how like bad it actually was like the kitchen there fully was no kitchen like it was a construction zone and
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And the kitchen was in the living room.
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And I remember, like, when we first started talking and, like, me visiting, he was so self-conscious about it.
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And, like, thought that, like, I wasn t gonna like him because of it.
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And I was like, it s... Well, it needed a little bit of a feminine touch in there.
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Yeah, it was like, look, I don t care.
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Like, we ll look back one day and be like, how fun when we, like, lived like this.
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But I knew he was, like, working toward, like, fixing it.
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But he needed me.
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Like, if I didn t hire an interior designer and, like, get things going,
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We would we d still have the same great couch.
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I m gonna defend Craig because me and Craig have a couple of similarities Okay.
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Okay.
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I feel like Craig is one of those people that has to get really chaotic.
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Mm-hmm But then likes to clean up the chaos
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Do you know, like there s something that s like, I m like this.
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Like I love like a huge disgusting slob closet bathroom situation.
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And then I like to go in and just like meditate and therapeutically clean it up.
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And it s like perfect.
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And the reason I say that is because.
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No, but it s absurd because you turn around and say how messy I am if I have one thing out.
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And then what she does is.
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I like to edit him.
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And then she cleans it up and says, aren t you going to thank me?
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And I m like, this was your shit.
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But like the thing with Craig is like,
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You could tell when he was doing his sewing that it made sense to him.
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The organized chaos made sense in his head, but to no one else.
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And I feel like he s done that with his sewing company, he s done that with his dating life, and he s done it with his home.
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It s like he fucks it up and chaoses it up to clean it up.
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On this line of thought, I could just go fuck a bunch of stuff up and clean it up, but that s part of my process.
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I always say to him, I m like, the inside of your brain has to be exhausting.
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Like, there s just gotta be so many things going on.
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He has in his closet, like, so many different piles of things, but knows exactly what are in those piles.
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And I m always like, there s just no way that you know that.
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And he I will agree he is similar to you, but he doesn t like to clean it But he likes when it gets cleaned like and organized and that s usually where I come in But how is it done with his company?
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He s done.
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Look what he s done with his company I will say his the people that work at sewing down south are some of the best humans I ve ever met like he genuinely has Created such a family like everyone that started at the company.
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They re still there like it s
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They definitely have such a close.
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It s really only like three of them that are like running it.
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I think about the coolest thing that he did with that is I mean, tell me if I m wrong.
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I feel like a lot of people didn t take that seriously at all until it became what it is now.
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Even now, I feel like people will kind of give him a little bit of shit and be like, you know, you don t run.
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You don t run it day to day or you don t do this.
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And he s like, right.
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But I started it and it s here because of me.
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And like, yeah, no, I hire employees to do like certain things.
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That s called
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Smart, delicate.
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Right.
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And so I think people try and like knock that, but that s just.
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No, no, I respect anybody that has a vision and can pull it off.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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What s the differences between filming besides the camera everywhere, Summer House and Southern Charm for someone who s a big reality fan?
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Like what are what give us some like behind the scenes of it?
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I will say the schedule in general, like summer houses, you got to prep like when you know you re going in on Friday and you re not going to not be filmed until Sunday.
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Like you got to really like prepare yourself like, OK, that s it.
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Like now I m essentially you re working like I m filming where with Southern Charm, it s very it s way more lax.
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Madison will come over for two hours, we ll chat, we ll gossip, and then that s it, they go home.
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Then you can decompress in your own bed by yourself.
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So I actually prefer the way Southern Charm films because it is just like, I feel like it s a little bit easier.
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And also I just hate packing for the weekend.
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You re very serious about your style.
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I mean, really, you have really good taste.
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Thank you.
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It s funny because everyone in Summer House, we all pack very differently.
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How do you pack?
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Michael loves packing.
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Like I pack for the weekend, where like Amanda and Lindsey, they ll pack for like the whole summer.
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What?
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So they ll like Amanda and Kyle will pack up their car that first weekend, pack everything, bring it out there, put it in the closet.
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And then that s like their summer wardrobe.
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But what if I m feeling different?
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I mean, I don t I could never do that.
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What if I need that shoe in the city?
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And I know it s in the Hamptons.
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And also, I m the type, you buy a little here, you buy a little there.
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To do that sounds so overwhelming.
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So exhausting.
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So I go weekend by weekend, because we will get a little bit of a schedule of what we ll potentially be doing.
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So I go by event, and that s how I do my outfit.
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What are the style tips for someone who doesn t know where to start?
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What are the essentials that they need to start with?
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I think it s all about, like, having really good basics and that s how you can figure out what your own personal style is.
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And I also think, like, your style can be different every single day.
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Like, today, she s… Business chic.
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She s business chic.
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Tomorrow, she might be full grunge.
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Yeah.
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So, like, you can… If you feel good in it, I really do think, like, then wear it.
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Who cares, like, if it s trendy or not?
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How do you dress for television?
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That would give me an anxiety attack.
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Yeah, because something that looks so cute in person does not look good on camera.
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It s like a stuffed sausage on camera.
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I never thought that was real.
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Like, oh, you look different on camera.
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You 1000% look different on camera.
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It is definitely a thing.
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And I now I actually try not wear a lot of black when we re filming summer house Because it just like doesn t pop on camera.
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It s kind of like and what about a print?
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I usually, I m not like a huge print girl in general.
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We know, we know.
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So I don t really have to worry about it.
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But no, there are certain times where I m like, oh, that s going to look so good on camera.
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Like that s a great color or, you know, that does nothing for my body.
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I m going to look 10 pounds heavier in that on camera.
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Yeah.
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So there are definitely decisions that I make like that.
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You have a lot of stuff going on off-camera, which I want to talk about.
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You have a really successful podcast.
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You also have this amazing thing going with Amazon.
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How did the Amazon thing start?
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So the Amazon thing started actually my first year on Summer House.
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I had gotten fired from my ABC job at the production company.
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And we… Why?
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Because I d technically signed a contract with NBC.
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And they were like, you actually can t work here also.
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But Summer House was like, we don t care that you got fired.
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They like never even like covered it.
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So no one even like knew that season that I had gotten fired.
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I get fired and I m at, happened to be at a 4th of July party like in the city.
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We weren t filming.
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It was like on a Monday.
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And I met this woman who worked at Amazon and I told her I wanted to be a broadcast journalist.
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And I just started doing this reality show.
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She was like, oh, we just started this thing called Amazon Live.
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Do you want to come and be one of the models while the hosts talk?
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And we saw this on the show.
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We saw you model for something on Amazon on the show.
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Did we?
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Yeah, we did.
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On my first season?
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Or was it Sierra?
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I think it was, oh no, that s when I did Access Hollywood.
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That was like years later.
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You re right.
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So I do this like Amazon Live thing as a model and no one knew about it.
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Like I didn t tell anyone on the show.
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I made like $200 from it.
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And every time they would call me, I would do it.
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And then like two months later, I was like, would you mind if I talked back to the host about like the item she s selling?
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And they re like, yeah, sure.
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And so they let me.
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And then a couple of months later, I was like, do you mind if I like host something?
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And they were like, OK, we ll give you like a segment.
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And then fast forward.
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Like now I have my own Amazon Live show.
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And now it s all like reality TV, which is so crazy.
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And also I feel like you re a tastemaker of what to get on Amazon.
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I ve gone to your page and there s a link section on your highlights and you have all these really cool curations of what to get.
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I think because how I really did start with Instagram was
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Showing my outfits that I was wearing to my corporate job every day and I was right out of college I was literally making like $2 like I couldn t afford any clothes But I wanted to look chic when I was going to work.
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So I ve always been that like on a budget Is there a dupe for it?
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Like how can you style it and it look expensive?
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So I think I just like so resonate with
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Amazon in general that it feels more authentic when you re buying something on my storefront And what about your podcast with Hannah?
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How did that come about?
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And do you guys always get along you guys are doing all these live situations?
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Like how does that work?
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Hannah truly is like there are just those people in your life that you meet and you re like, no, that s my soulmate.
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Hannah is that to me for sure.
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Right when I met her, I knew we were going to be best friends.
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We met actually at the Betches offices like in the elevator shaft.
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I got out of the elevator and she was the first person to greet me and I ll never forget that moment.
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So we started Giggly Squad because we just felt like on Summer House, we had formed such an intense friendship and you never kind of really saw it.
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And they would show like little clips or whatever.
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But then once COVID happened and we were in that era of like everyone going live, like everyone and their mom was like live on Instagram.
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It was a weird era.
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Who was that one rapper that like had like one of the craziest, whatever,
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But that was the era we were in.
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And we re like, okay, we ll do this.
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Our show was airing.
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People hadn t seen it before.
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And there was nothing else to watch.
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So everyone was watching Summer House.
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So we would go live after the episodes.
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And then once the show was over, Hannah was like, well, we have nothing else to do.
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Let s just keep going live.
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So we went live every single night from 10 p.m.
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to 11 p.m.
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for three months.
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Then we went into Summer House, filmed that season, got out of Summer House and said, OK, let s just like make this into a podcast.
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We make it into a podcast and then kind of for the next now we ve been doing it for like almost four years.
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So the next three years, we re just like doing a podcast.
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And we just started doing our live shows, which is like, have you guys done a live show yet?
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We have not.
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No, you have to.
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That s so much work, though.
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It s a lot.
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It s so fun, though.
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It is.
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And, like, you get energy, like, off the audience.
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We ll go speak.
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Like, we just, like, spoke it, but it wasn t a podcast.
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And I feel like with the way that we do this, I don t know if it always translates to live.
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How do you do it on, like, how do you take what you do here and pull it to stage?
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I feel like you guys have a little bit of a performing thing going on as well.
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Ours is a little bit more like comedy, so I think it s a little easier.
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Yes.
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But to be able to meet the people that listen to you.
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Yeah, that s cool.
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You genuinely feel like you know them, because you re like, oh, we think about things in the exact same way.
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Also, the reason is I tell people like,
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technically this podcast is just like a side thing.
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Yeah.
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Even though it s like a, you know, it s become something, but like day to day I m running the company and then she s running her company.
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And I think it s like to commit to be like, we re going on the road.
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No, I get it.
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And then the kids are at home and it s like, not that we don t want, I think at some point for sure we ll consider it.
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At one point, you should just do one show just for people to meet you and be in person with you.
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And you guys would be able to do it.
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Get whoever your favorite guest has been, have them as a special guest, and just talk to them.
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And people would love it.
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All they wanna see is you.
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I think we just have to wrap our heads around committing to it.
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They almost don t even care what you re talking about.
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It s just like a fun night where they re getting to meet you and getting to hang with you.
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No, I love it.
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I think it s really cute.
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It s so overwhelming with two children.
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No, I can t imagine.
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That s because it s like, do you bring them or do they stay?
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No, there was a company that put together a big proposal about this tour and I was trying to logistically plan it and then I just...
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But our live shows, I will say, I would never have thought I would have been able to do it without Hannah.
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And her being a stand-up comedian does really help.
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And when we started the podcast, in no situation did we think we would be in the comedy section of podcasts.
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Like that wasn t like a goal at all.
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Like we just kind of started talking to each other and it happened to be funny.
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So to now like to be performing at the New York City Comedy Festival with like legitimate comedians is just one of the craziest things.
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And that s how it s like it s so true.
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You have no idea what could happen in your career.
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like anything but don t you feel like because you guys are in that world of comedy there s like a little bit of a performance thing and like people don t have to be as serious like someone doesn t need to come on here and like learn about their resting heart rate live right no that s no we have to bring the car you bring but what she s saying is you bring a guest who is good with comedy yeah like it could be just like a fun night it doesn t have to be like a full you can show your penis like we do like do something fun like you could strip on stage
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Actually, I want you guys to come to a Giggly Squad show and then I promise.
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I would do that because that s different and I wouldn t feel the pressure to- Wait, come on the show or watch the show?
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I want you to come and watch to see what it is and then we ll brainstorm your show.
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Because I feel like you definitely- You don t have to go on tour either.
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You can do one show in LA.
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And just try it.
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And just try it.
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You re opening up my mind.
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If the wheels start to fall off this thing, I m going to skip all the live shows and we re going straight to OnlyFans, Lauren and I.
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And I feel like honestly, if I was smarter and a little less shameless, I would be like, let s get on there.
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Only fans.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I bet the revenue would be.
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No, it s insane.
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They deserve it.
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No, they work hard.
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I couldn t imagine.
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They do deserve it.
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I have basically changed every single thing about my hair in the last year and a half.
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So when I was postpartum, I noticed a lot of shedding and I got on board with fixing my hair and replenishing it.
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And how I did that was a couple of things.
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I eat so much meat now, so a lot of amino acids.
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I do microneedling on my scalp.
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I switched from blonde, over-processed hair to brunette.
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I supplement, and then lastly, I use a really great hair serum, and I do it with scalp massage.
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And the hair serum that I have been using for visibly thicker, fuller, and shinier, longer hair is Megamore.
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I like this one because it doesn t have a bunch of harsh ingredients.
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It s this cute little pink bottle.
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I bring it everywhere and I do scalp massage as much as possible.
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And just like a side note, scalp massage is so amazing for the fascia in your scalp to support your skin from being tight.
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What I mean by that is when you re massaging the scalp, it s like pulling up your face.
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So don t sleep on scalp massage.
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I like to do it specifically with Vegamour s Grow hair serum, and I like to do it daily.
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And a fun fact, Vegamour sells one bottle of Grow serum every 15 seconds on their website.
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When Hannah got kicked off, and actually, I wanna make sure she got kicked off.
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Is kicked off the right word?
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Okay, when Hannah got- Why d she get kicked off?
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She got fired, basically.
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When Hannah got fired off the show, what was that like for you?
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Who s her best friend, you end up going into business with her, you guys are building a podcast.
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That would put you in a very weird spot.
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It put me in a really weird spot because
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And I will say, I think about this probably the most of any moment that I ve been on reality TV.
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I have a lot of regrets from that season.
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I think about how I could have been a better friend to Hannah.
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I could have been a better friend to Amanda.
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I think about how I was in the middle and how could I have changed the outcome of Hannah not returning that next season.
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I think about that a lot but then also I think everything happens for a reason and in no situation would Giggly Squad be what Giggly Squad is had Hannah not been fired from that season because it just put us in a totally different area of our friendship.
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We no longer were on the show together which means we didn t really have certain
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animosity that comes with like being on a reality show even though we never had that before we were always so close but Giggly Squad just would not be would not have taken the form that it took had that not happened so I m thankful for that but also I do think about that time a lot of how
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Maybe I shouldn t have been so Switzerland and tried to be in the middle and I should have stuck up for Hannah and I should have stuck up for Amanda and I should have maybe talked more or said certain opinions.
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And.
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I.
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I just always think back and like felt bad for what Hannah went through that whole year because that was probably one of the toughest years Yeah, it was intense to watch intense, but she s also also with giggly squad in with what she does as a comedian Yeah, I mean she s she s flourishing.
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So it s like you re right.
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It s good.
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It happened.
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Yeah, but I think about it I think about it a lot
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How have you taken all of these things that you ve done and sort of created your own future?
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Because I think that s one of the most interesting things about you is like a lot of people just go on reality television and like that s it and that s fine.
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But you ve like really like laid a map out.
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Yeah.
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I think part of it is and I feel like I ve talked to a lot of people who are like about to go on a reality show or like thinking about it and I ve had friends like call me like what s what s your advice like what do you think I should do and I always give the same advice and I always say do it because you don t want to wake up in five years and wonder what if I did it how would my life be different
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and before you film that first scene, what is the end goal that you want from this show?
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That s good advice.
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Like, so I, and this I think is why Hannah and I bonded so much, my, going into Summer House, I always knew, like, okay, I don t want to be on reality TV for the rest of my life, but I want to be established enough so that after I m on reality TV, you still know who I am and you re still buying whatever I m selling or you re still tuning in to whatever I m doing.
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And at the time it was like Amazon Live and it was being a fashion influencer.
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And obviously that s like changed a little bit as the years have gone on.
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But I think if you re just going on a reality show to go on a reality show, you re going to lose yourself.
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Like you re going to lose your personality and what you were there for in the beginning.
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So I think having a plan of what you want from it is probably the best advice I could give.
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Yeah, if you just kind of go on it and you get like addicted to your press clippings and like there s no end goal that can be really toxic because at any time you could be kicked off.
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And it s so easy to get like sucked into that.
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I had a producer tell me like the first year I was on, he was like, 50% of people are going to be obsessed with you.
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They re going to love you.
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They re going to die for you.
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And the other 50 is going to absolutely hate your guts.
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Anything you do, they re going to hate it, no matter what it is.
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And he was like, but the great part about it is neither of those sides are right because neither of those people know you.
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And that stuck with me for so long.
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And I was like, wait, you re so right.
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So if like you go, I ve gone through times where like people have absolutely hated me on the show and I ve had to like take inventory of like, okay, are my friends mad at me?
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And are my family mad at me?
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And if the answer is no to both of those, then I kind of like have to kind of forget it.
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Cause I m like, it s then it s nothing for me to do.
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I do just stay out of the comments and the DMs.
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You have to, you really don t even look.
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I mean, there are definitely days.
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I m obviously a human.
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There are definitely days where I m like deep in them.
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And I m like, how could that person say that?
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But I will give myself credit, like as the years go on, as I get older, it s less and less kind of a part of my life, like the comments and what people could say.
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The problem with reading all that stuff too, as I think about this a lot, is it sways the way you ll behave or it sways the way that you ll actually share your opinion.
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And in the beginning when we started doing this, I used to think about, oh, what do they want to hear and what is the feedback?
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But the problem is that I have to be able to have a conversation with you without thinking about that.
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Yes.
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And that s I mean, that s the biggest thing on reality TV.
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You have to have a conversation and be yourself and not think about how are they going to edit this?
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Like sometimes I ll film something and I ll be like, damn, are they going to spin that where I look like such a bitch?
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But I m like, I can t worry about that.
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Like, tell her how you really feel.
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Like, how would you do it like authentically?
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It s kind of have to, like, put it out of your head.
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Yeah, and I also just like doing this for as long as we ve done it now.
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You just realize that like people care way too much about themselves anyway to actually pay attention to you for that long, right?
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No, that s so true.
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Like it s like at the end of the day.
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It s just like when everyone s going to sleep at night.
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They re not thinking about you.
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They re thinking about themselves.
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Yeah, like so.
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I mean, I like to think that they re thinking about me, but, you know.
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Maybe some are thinking about your hairline.
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I just think that everything is, people are way more concerned about themselves than they are about what anyone else is.
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I even think, like, in personal relationships, I just, like, with that perspective, I just think, don t get bothered anymore.
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Right.
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What are we in store for with summer house?
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Because this is I mean, what s just happened with Lindsay and Carl is intense.
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I get my first question because it s like two prong question.
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Did you know that was going to happen or was that out of nowhere for you?
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Yeah, no, I mean, I had no idea that they were going to break up.
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And I don t think either of them really did either.
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So it was if you don t know what we re talking about, you need to watch the show, Michael.
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I m nodding my head.
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No, I know who Lindsay and Carl are.
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Carl and Lindsay who were going to get married in like a couple of weeks or something.
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Yeah.
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I know who they are.
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Like everyone had booked flights.
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I know who they are, but I m just not up to speed with it.
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For their wedding and were set to go get married in a couple of weeks, got broke up, which is like crazy.
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Okay, so here s what I m saying.
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I m sure this is a big issue, but when I hear about it in the context of like, to me it sounds like, oh, a couple broke up.
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No, but it s not.
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It s for the show.
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It s in the ecosystem of the show.
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The drama is heightened.
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I think the thing that people are freaking out the most about is like, in the Bravo world, when you hear that cameras came back up, like that s just a phrase that people are like, oh, it must be so juicy.
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Like we were done filming and then they brought cameras back up.
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Is that true?
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I don t I didn t.
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Yeah.
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So we were done filming our season and then all of a sudden we get a call like we re filming again.
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Cameras are back up.
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And then and they broke up and called off their wedding.
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But is it just like, do they grow apart?
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We don t know, we have to find out.
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I will say like, if and when you watch the season, like when it comes out.
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I told you, now that I ve met you, I m going to be tuned in with a pen.
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Yeah, you ll definitely see.
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I m going to be fighting in the comments sections with trolls.
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You ll see the ins and outs of their relationship, what their problems were, what they fought about, what they didn t.
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And I think things will make more sense, but I can t say truly what it was because obviously I m not in their relationship.
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Do you think Craig is going to want you to move to South Carolina?
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I think Craig, I give him a lot of credit because he doesn t, honestly, he doesn t pressure me about moving ever.
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He ll rarely bring it up.
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But he misses you, you can tell.
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Yes, but I think he wants us to have a family and it be in Charleston.
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So I think whenever I- Can you imagine the pillows?
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The baby, I would make him do all baby bedding and we would go full baby.
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So I think until I,
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get the feeling of like, oh, I d like to have a child.
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It won t really be a thing of like when I m moving.
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I think how you re handling it is perfect.
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It s like there s no rush.
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You obviously met someone who who from the outside looking in looks like a soulmate.
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Like you don t need to like.
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And I truly feel like until I have children and they have to go to school, we don t have to be in one place like the whole time.
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We bounce around.
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Right.
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So I didn t move in with him until I was engaged.
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I waited, and here s the reason I didn t do it.
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He had this bachelor pad, beautiful house, and he wanted me to move in.
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I was living in my cute studio apartment that I loved.
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Everything was on my own terms.
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You were living in your Barbie dream house.
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It was all organized, and labels were out, and it was perfect and pristine, cute studio.
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And he wanted me to move into his house.
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And I always was like, I don t want to move my stuff into your house.
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And then it becomes my towel is on your floor because it s your house and I m taking over your closet.
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Yeah.
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Like it just there s an energy of like moving in with someone where it s still their house.
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Now we ve moved in together and my towel, you say, is on my floor, but it s our fucking house.
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Everything s mine still.
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But that s why I felt so adamant about getting Craig an interior designer because I was like, I need to feel like I m decorating your home.
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Mark your territory.
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Or it s gonna feel just like yours.
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Yes, that was really smart to do because it s like, you have a part in it.
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I think on this topic, I think it s okay to have a little bit of a courtship period and also live apart for a bit.
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Absolutely.
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It s sexy.
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But sometimes people, not to judge people, but people rush into a lot of heavy life decisions.
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I agree.
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And I like a list.
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I like a plan.
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I like to know what we re doing.
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I m not someone that rushes into major decisions like that, like uprooting my life and moving somewhere, or buying a house together, buying a car together.
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That s so not me.
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So I like taking it.
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People gave Lauren and I a lot of shit for a long time.
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I remember, it was like, oh, when are you getting engaged?
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There s this weird energy about it.
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When are you moving in?
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Ooh, when are you getting engaged?
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It s so bizarre.
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We knew that we had a really strong thing for a long time.
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In our perspective, we got together young.
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So I was like, listen, we re going to be together.
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But we wanted to have, even though we were not single, we wanted to have the 20s and the early 30s to do things that people our age do.
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No, I say it all the time.
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I m like, when people ask me, like, OK, are you moving or are you getting engaged?
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And I feel like it s like such a dumb answer.
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But I m like, I love my life.
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Like, I love my life the way it is right now.
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I don t want to change.
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I totally get it.
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Would you get married?
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They re going to say you have a kid.
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They re going to say when s the second.
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They did people.
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Yeah, it s busy.
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You know, go figure your own shit out.
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No, but there is that undertone always with that question of like, when are you getting engaged?
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It s exhausting.
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It s exhausting.
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And then I think you get to a point where people are like, enough of you.
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Stop talking to us about anything.
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The thing that I feel bad for Craig is because I m the one that is kind of like, oh, I don t want to move yet.
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Oh, I don t want to get engaged yet.
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I feel like because I m the woman, people will take it and be like, she doesn t even like him.
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She doesn t love him.
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Like he should move on.
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And that always makes me feel so bad for Craig because I m like, I don t ever want that to be like the narrative in the public because that is like mean to you, even though he knows that s so not like what it is.
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But I always feel bad that like people say that.
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because I don t want it to like hurt his feelings.
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But really, if the roles were reversed and he was the guy being like, I d love to like focus on my career a little and I don t want to move yet.
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And let s just keep doing what we re doing.
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Everyone would be like, he s got his head on his shoulders.
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He is look at him.
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just being mature adults.
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Or they might also say, like, this guy doesn t take this person seriously and is pushing her, like, wasting her time.
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Like, listen, you cannot win.
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Right, no, you literally can t win at all.
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I will tell you, though, like, my intuition, it s very interesting to see him on Southern Charm with you because his whole vibe has changed.
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Yeah.
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You can tell when he s, like, going out on the show, it s like,
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He has a guard up of, like, he is not, like, looking.
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There s an energy with, like, Austin where, like, when he was with someone on the show, you can still tell he s looking.
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He s looking around like a bloodhound.
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Craig s not looking anymore.
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Craig s closed for business.
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Craig is?
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to his core like a family guy.
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Like Craig can t wait to be someone s dad and like be like have that like core family.
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He s got like a teddy bear side.
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Yeah.
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Like he s ready for that next step, I think.
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And I mean, we talk about it all the time of like our children, like our future children and stuff like that.
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And he s so close with his family.
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And that s one of the things that
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is top on my list of how he is with his family, how he is with my family, and how excited he is to one day be a family guy.
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But you ll pick the name.
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I told him he can do dogs.
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He can pick dog names.
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You got to pick the name.
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Anytime he suggests something, I m like, and that sounds amazing for a puppy.
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I think, too, it s been fun to watch
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his other counterpart Austin now in therapy, so it s different roads.
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Yeah, they have different paths.
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I feel like that environment down there, because we ve spent some time in Charleston, it s kind of like a crazy environment.
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I ve spent time in Charleston, I don t even know if it s in Northern South.
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You don t have to maybe grow up as much maybe in some ways?
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There s so many, there s so many more women than there are men.
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And it s such a college town that people end up just like staying from college.
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So I feel like they don t ever leave that like college-y mindset because they re still living in the same city.
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Like because Craig went to college there and he s been there ever since.
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And so, yeah, their nightlife is definitely a little a little more juvenile than like going out in New York City or going out in L.A.. Yeah, it s been fun to see it through your eyes.
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Yeah.
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That s all I ll say.
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Paige, where can everyone find you?
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Pimp yourself out.
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Tell us where we can buy what you re doing.
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See what you re doing on Amazon.
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Give us all the things.
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OK, so Giggly Squad s out every Tuesday, wherever you listen to your podcast.
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And then my Instagram and TikTok is just at Paige DeSorbo.
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And then I have new Amazon lives every week.
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Paige, thank you for coming on.
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Thank you for having me.
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Next time you come on, I m manifesting that you come on with Craig.
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Yes.
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Or with Hannah.
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Either one.
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Yes.
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And you guys, we can do like a little round table.
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They fight with each other because Hannah s my boyfriend.
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They can rock, paper, scissors for it.
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Hannah s my husband.
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Craig is my boyfriend.
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I love it.
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Love it.
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Thanks for coming on.
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Thank you, Paige.
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Be sure to stock all Skinny Confidential products on revolve.com.
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And if you want to watch this episode, you can watch it on our YouTube channel.