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The following podcast is a dear media production.
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She s a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
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Fantastic.
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And he s a serial entrepreneur, a very smart cookie.
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And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride.
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Get ready for some major realness.
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Welcome to the skinny confidential him and her.
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When you grow up around a successful parent, you are exposed to successful people.
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You re exposed to people who have pulled themselves out of like poverty and become a billionaire.
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There are lessons to be learned there.
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You re sitting at a brunch or a dinner with people who have phenomenal advice to be able to give you or like contest you and push you.
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You can get jobs, obviously, because of who your parents are, but I would say writing is one of the few things where it doesn t matter who you know or what you have.
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You either have a riveting script that takes you on a really incredible ride, or you don t.
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Hello, everybody.
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Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show.
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Today, we re sitting down with a dynamic duo, a sibling duo that is Aaron and Sarah Foster.
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Aaron and Sarah Foster are well known for their presence in the entertainment world as comedians and writers.
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In addition to their investments and involvement with companies including Bumble and Mirror, they also have a VC fund that they started.
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They join us today for a wide spanning conversation about being mindful, about finding your partner, finding somebody you re sure about.
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how to bet on yourself, balancing parenthood and career.
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There s a ton of takeaways.
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We had a ton of fun with them on the show.
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I m surprised it took us this long to do it.
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With that, Erin and Sarah Foster, welcome to the Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show.
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This is the Skinny Confidential Him and Her.
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I just was thinking how I know about you and
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Sorry, Michael.
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You don t even know the story.
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Like an ex-boyfriend?
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I was hooking up in Cabo with someone who rhymes with Schmode Runner.
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Oh, my God.
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And his pickup line to me... Not hooking to you?
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You re going to die.
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His pickup line.
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My sister s on the cover of Maxim.
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Stop.
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Guys, am I 900 that I don t know who we re talking about?
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Sarah, come on.
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Say it one more time, schnody schninner.
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Sarah, I m going to let you get here on your own.
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I m not even going to walk you to there.
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He said, my sister is on the call.
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Oh, in my mind, I m thinking someone she dated.
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No.
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So I m going to.
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Oh, OK.
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Got it.
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Can I say who?
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Yeah.
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Brody?
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So his pickup lines to me.
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Oh my God, that is so funny.
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was my sisters on the cover of Maxim.
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That s quite a pick-up line.
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By the way, if he only knew how famous his other sisters were gonna be... Seriously.
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That would have been a way bigger... He had no idea how big he could have gone.
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He had no idea how big he could... I mean, he had to slum it with me.
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By the way, that worked.
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You said you were hooking up.
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We ll talk off-air.
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Okay.
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This is a lot... Now we re dating ourselves, because it was before all that.
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No, this is before him.
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Way before him.
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But that was the pick-up line.
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How long have you guys been together?
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We ve been together since we met at 12.
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So this would have been 2003.
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You were there in Cabo.
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I was there separately.
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But we were all like kind of down there.
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But I wasn t.
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We were in high school together.
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We went to middle school, high school.
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We were together.
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But you were on the cover of Maxim.
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Do you remember what I m talking about?
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Obviously, you remember being on the cover of Maxim.
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That was a big deal.
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So really, you guys, it was a big fucking deal.
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I kind of think with this episode, you should post the cover on your Instagram.
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This gives you a reason to be like,
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I was like, look, I was on the cover of Max and Remember.
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Oh, they re making me feel cheated.
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I already used my daughter as an excuse to post it like two years ago.
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Oh, what did you say?
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I ve already sort of done that.
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I was like, oh V, I was just like cleaning out the garage.
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This is crazy.
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Look what I found.
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And she was like, ew, disgusting, is what she said.
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You look so hot.
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If I remember correctly, there was like leather and black.
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I thought it was white lace.
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Oh.
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I remember requesting the photographer who shot like all the Victoria s Secret.
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They gave me like an option.
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They re like, who do you want?
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I go, I want him.
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Thinking that if I had him, I would look like Heidi Klum or whatever, whoever the models were then.
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This guy Russell James.
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The pictures were fine.
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I mean, they were fine.
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No, they were great.
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They could have been better.
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They were gorgeous.
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And so when he said that, I went to like the 7-Eleven in Cabo or whatever, and I like wanted to see the sister.
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So I got the magazine, I bought the magazine.
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I remember looking through it and being like, oh my God, his sister s so hot.
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How s the sister?
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And then now he has all kinds of sisters.
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He has all kinds of sisters.
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He does have all kinds of sisters.
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Way bigger covers than... But like, cute.
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I love that.
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Maximum was the jam back then.
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Got the guys revved up.
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I really, yeah.
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No, you were on the cover at the peak of Maxim.
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Like whoever s on, if it s still a magazine, whoever s on the cover now, we don t know.
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It was a peak.
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Oh yeah, if Instagram hadn t been around when I was on the cover of Maxim, I mean, the sky would have been the limit for me.
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Yeah.
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But this was really just at a time when you actually, you know.
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Here we are.
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Here you are.
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On the podcast.
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First question I have to ask is who was funnier when you guys were little?
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That s me for sure.
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Tara discovered how funny she is as an adult, wouldn t you say?
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Yeah, I mean, I think you were considered like the funny kid.
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And then I think the first time that I really realized like, oh, I am funny is with Barely Famous, which I was really, which was a comedy that we wrote, starred in, scripted comedy, poking fun at reality stars and the desperation to be famous and all those things.
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But I had to push Sarah to be like, you re funny, you should embrace it, lean into that side of you, because that s actually like the cool side.
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The hot side, of course it s cool to be hot, but it s temporary.
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You ve got to like... You re also really funny.
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You ve got to last longer.
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It s temporary hot.
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I know.
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That s kind of hard.
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You have to be multifaceted.
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You ve got to have more.
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It s got to be more.
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I d take funny over pretty.
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Yeah.
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I feel like guys would, too, if you really dissect it.
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And I know a lot of guys who are dating really hot girls and they are trying to get out of the relationship.
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That just isn t enough.
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And I think as women, we grew up thinking, oh, if you can just be pretty, if you can have a great body or great this or that, then I ll get the guy or the guy didn t want me because how I look.
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And it actually is not ever that.
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It can help you get the guy, maybe not keep the guy.
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A hundred percent.
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I feel like you have a really interesting perspective.
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I think like, yeah, you don t want to go to a staring contest every night, right?
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Like it s got to be something to say.
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That s a Frank Sinatra quote.
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Don t you know the Cindy Crawford story?
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No.
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It s like the fakes.
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Erin s heard it before, so she doesn t want to hear it, but it s like... I can sit through it.
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It s like, OK, so so it s not actually Cindy Crawford, but a guy is on a deserted island with Cindy Crawford.
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And he s like, holy shit, like I m on a deserted island with Cindy Crawford.
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This is every man s dream.
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So they hook up.
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and they re done hooking up, and he s, like, not feeling satisfied.
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He s like, God, like, that s not what I thought it would be.
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This feels terrible.
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Like, he s like, OK, what can I do to feel better?
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He s like, OK.
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And he puts his hat on her and, like, draws a mustache on her and puts his clothes on her and is like, now I want you to walk all the way down to the end of the beach and then start walking towards me.
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And she s like, OK.
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And she starts walking towards him and he s like, yo, bro, I just fucked Cindy Crawford.
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And it s like this thing, right?
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Again, this isn t actually Cindy Crawford.
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But now it felt good for him.
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And then he was like, oh, that s the thing that was missing.
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It s like, it feels good to tell your bros or to tell, oh, I m dating this person.
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Or when you actually peel back the layers, like, is it meaningful?
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Is it actually who you want to be with?
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Do you even like this person?
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It s so true.
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They just want to brag in the locker room.
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It s true.
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And I think that the people who are envious of another relationship, like a friend s relationship, it s not, oh, my friend who has like the hottest girlfriend or the hottest wife.
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It s like the one who actually likes his wife, wants to hang with his girlfriend.
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They laugh.
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He s not trying to escape her.
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He s not cheating on her every time she leaves town.
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I think it s like the guy who s actually happy.
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You re the man in the room, tell us.
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When my guy friends come to me now and ask about it, it s exactly what you re saying.
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They want the connection and they want the relationship.
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They all run around and do their thing, they re a bunch of animals, but I think when they get alone with their thoughts, some of them, they re sad if they don t have the connection.
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They want that thing.
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Those are the relationships I m envious of.
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Never the one with the hottest husband or the richest husband.
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It s always the one where it s a mutually respectful relationship, where they re laughing, a lot of respect, a lot of joy.
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Those are the relationships I m always like, God, they have it all.
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Yeah.
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I also have a theory that— A lot of my friends are in dark days, too.
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They re out there.
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It s not as glamorous for them as they portray it to be.
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I know what goes on behind those—
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I mean, imagine waking up every day and there s a new stranger and it s like, you know, you re sitting... I don t have the capacity.
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What were you going to say?
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Oh, I was going to say, I have a theory that, you know, there s a lot of like supermodels and like famous actresses who end up getting cheated on with someone who s not nearly as beautiful or successful.
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And I think that there s because men are such visual people, you know, like women, we can be attracted to a guy for so many different reasons.
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But men are very visual at first.
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It s very much like this is women don t say like, oh, I like brunettes or I like guys with big butts.
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It s like we don t think like that.
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We just think it s like a vibe.
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I think that sometimes women who are considered like a fantasy, it s so hard when for their partner when she s normal and she has like bad breath in the morning or she like has like dandruff or she says something embarrassing at a dinner party and, you know, like falls off the pedestal.
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I think it s a much further fall for the guy to watch.
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That is really aware and so true.
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You both grew up around so many famous people in such a wild town.
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When you look back on the way you grew up from this perspective now, is it like weird or is it just normal?
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Aaron and I have discovered that we had different childhoods.
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Really different experiences in our home and with our family and like in our world.
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They don t match up.
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No.
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And we ve realized that the oldest gets treated differently.
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So her experience and her journey is different.
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And Aaron was the middle child.
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And so for me, I grew up, I went to a different school.
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My best friend was Kate Hudson.
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So for me, I m like, well, that s famous, famous as her parents.
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You know, I d go to her house.
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I m like, holy shit, this person s in the kitchen and that person s in the kitchen.
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And and so I always felt like my friends were growing up in this very,
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fantasy world and we had like a normal life.
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That was my delusion at the time.
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And then for Erin, she was at a different school.
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I was at a public school and I was the rich kid.
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I was the kid who had like the biggest house and the fanciest life.
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And so I always thought, oh my God, we have so much.
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Like we re so
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and like everyone else around us doesn t have what I have.
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Like I was the friend who had more than everybody else and she was a friend who had less than everybody else.
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So it kind of like set us up in a weird way.
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Do you want to go to Goldie Hawn?
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I was not invited.
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No.
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Sarah didn t really acknowledge me until I was like 25.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think it was Aaron.
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That s not true.
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I was like 22.
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What s going on there?
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Oh, God.
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Oh, Lord.
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No, we just didn t connect until later in life, guys.
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I mean, I was trying to connect our whole life.
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I was desperate to be Sarah s friend.
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She just she really wasn t interested.
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You guys seem so simpatico, though.
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Oh, we are.
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It s yeah.
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Yeah, but it s not a no, we are.
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I mean, that is true.
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It happened, but we are as adults now.
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I mean, it s a different relation.
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Do you have siblings?
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I have siblings.
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Did your relationship switch as adults from children or no?
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We got to do a whole nother part.
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That s how I feel about it.
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Do you think it s unique to have that?
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I think it s a bigger game.
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gap.
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They re five years.
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That s a big gap.
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No, but I also have three siblings.
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It s different with each sibling.
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And you know what I ve realized is the birth order is a real thing.
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Now that I have kids too, it s just different.
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The oldest one gets so much attention
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when they re a baby.
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Like it s also a totally different thing when your parents go through a divorce.
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Right.
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When you re young.
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So it s a very different.
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We ve unpacked this on our podcast.
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I don t know if we want to bore your listeners.
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We could.
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We could.
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But but we ve we ve realized through therapy and through so much conversation, there s a lot of responsibility that falls on the oldest through a breakup.
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But I think Erin has now a lot more grace for what I was going through, and I obviously have grace for what she was going through.
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But it takes time to get there.
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You want to just point fingers and go, God damn, why weren t you a better sister?
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Why weren t you this?
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Why weren t you that?
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And then when you sort of step out of it and you hold space for the other person s experience also, you can heal from that.
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Yeah.
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I also think like when looking back when you re little, you re just like surviving, especially if you come from divorce, you have any kind of trauma or whatever it is like you re just you re just doing the best you can.
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I really believe that people are doing the best they can, especially when they re little.
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How old were you when your parents split up?
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I was five.
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I was three.
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Oh, that s young.
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Yeah.
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But it s so true what you re saying, because I think about as an adult, when I would hold resentment towards Sarah for what was going on when we were children.
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And it s like, I m holding her responsible as a seven year old for having not been there for me through what we were going through in our household.
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She s seven.
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Like, but for me, I m five at the time thinking like, where the fuck s my older sister, like walking me through this.
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But she s a child too.
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Yeah.
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So I think it s important as adults to kind of have those conversations, have the arguments, the tears, and get to a place where it s not really getting me any closer to healing by blaming her or it s not getting her closer to healing by, you know, blaming me or whatever and just kind of moving forward.
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But it s also as you get older and you have your own kids, then you start also seeing your parents  journey and blaming them less because then you start going, wait a minute.
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Look at what they were doing.
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But this is the this is sort of how this is the roadmap, right?
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This is always how it works.
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You get to you.
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You hate your parents.
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You re resentful.
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You blame them for everything.
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And then you become to realize, wait, they they didn t have it easy growing up.
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They are imperfect people.
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And then you forgive your parents.
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And it s all about forgiveness on all ends of the spectrum.
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I think that if you can actively on a daily basis, imagine your children at or your excuse me, your parents as three year olds, five year olds, seven year olds, and really put yourself in their shoes.
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It does, like you said, really help let go of resentment.
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I just read that somewhere.
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That s so interesting.
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Look at your parents as a toddler.
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I think about it.
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Yeah, there s like this weird meditation that I do when I lock Michael out of the bathroom and pretend like I m on my period every day because I need some space.
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But this meditation, it s like, the whole meditation is like imagine your parents as children, like being three and it s really helpful.
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It s like, it makes you feel lighter because you understand.
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You know what I mean?
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Totally.
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So how did you guys sort of come back together?
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Like what was the, who came to who?
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How did it happen?
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Well there was no like, I mean there was no like, we were never estranged.
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It wasn t really like that.
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I was just living my life, trying to stay above water, trying to figure out where I was going.
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I didn t go to college.
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I moved to Paris to model.
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I was really just on this path, right?
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I was like, I need to be independent.
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I need to make a living.
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I need to... I just had blinders on.
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You re totally the oldest.
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It s like drive, drive, drive, drive.
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And there was no part of me that was like, fuck my sister.
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It was more just like, this is my path.
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And so there was never... We weren t like estranged.
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We just...
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As then as in our early 20s, I started being more like, oh, come with me to this thing.
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Like it felt like there s a very big difference between like 16 and 14 or 17.
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And you know what I mean?
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But then in your early 20s, it s kind of like, oh, like it s smaller, the gap gets smaller.
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And so it started being like, oh, Aaron, come with me to this or, you know, let me introduce you to this person or let s have a fun birthday.
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You know, just just shift it.
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Modeling in Paris, what s that like?
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I mean, it was horrible.
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What do you mean?
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I lived in like a dorm with like 80 ladies and ladies, like kids.
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And you re just you go on like a thousand castings a day.
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And, you know, if you get a call back, it s like a celebration.
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You know, I was, I m like just under 5 9 , so this was the time in like 2000 when if you were not 5 9 or taller, you had no chance.
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Like there was Kate Moss and that was it.
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She was like an anomaly.
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But if you were not right at 5 9 with the ruler, I m saying if you weren t like a supermodel, if you were just a regular model, they wouldn t even look at you or see you.
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Now it s like anyone can be a model.
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But it was very strict, so I was already like,
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going through, oh, no, you won t be seen for this because you re five, eight and three fourths.
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How did you deal with all that rejection?
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That s a lot of rejection.
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I think it builds like it builds resilience.
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Oh, yeah.
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No.
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I mean, and from modeling to acting and hosting and all those things, it s it s rejection every day.
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I mean, it s really horrible.
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It s horrible.
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And what were you doing while she s in Paris modeling?
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Who knows?
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I don t know.
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But it s also a different time.
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You weren t allowed to know when that was.
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What age was that?
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You were maybe writing for Daily Candy.
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I don t know.
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I don t know.
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I was starting a writing career.
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What s so crazy is how people were treated.
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You know, you were allowed to treat people like shit.
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You were allowed— Give me an example.
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Oh my God.
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I remember being on set for a catalog, like a big company, and the photographer and all the people are like,
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literally saying loud where I can hear them.
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They re like, oh my God, look at her.
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I mean, her teeth are, no, this is not working.
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Like, this is not working.
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We need someone else.
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We need to, like, they would just, there was no consideration.
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If you were not at the top tier, it was just terrible.
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Yikes.
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It s horrible for a girl s self-confidence.
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I think it s interesting what Bella Hadid just said, how she said, like, modeling,
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I don t know how she said it, but it s like not filling her cup up anymore.
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And like she needed to be, she wanted to feel more fulfilled.
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Like she felt like it was draining her.
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That career of modeling, it seems like so much work that people don t see.
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And then you have people thinking it s easy, which is like a mindfuck.
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And that is a much easier time.
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Her generation, it s like you have Instagram, you have all these things.
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It s a much, it s a very different time to try to be a model.
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And what was your writing career like?
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Writing is also a very, very interesting.
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There s a lot of rejection there, too.
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Complex career.
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It s different kind.
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I mean, it s less you have more control in a lot of ways.
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You can t control.
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I mean, today you can control how you look a little bit more than you could 15, 20 years ago.
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But there was no Botox.
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There was no Botox when I was born.
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But like you, you know, you re being judged for something different, something you can work on and get better at.
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And so I don t think it has the same surface level where it s the same kind of rejection where it can kind of set you back with emotionally the same way.
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But I just I don t know.
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I always wanted to be a writer and I didn t really know how to figure out how to do it.
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And so I started working with Daily Candy was like my first ever being paid to write.
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Do you remember what Daily Candy was?
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Why does that sound so familiar?
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It was this thing that, well how long have you guys been in LA?
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We don t live here, we live in Austin.
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You live in Austin full time.
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We came in 2014.
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We live in the San Diego area.
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Right.
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So 2014.
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Yeah, I think that it exists.
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It was honestly like a city guide with like comedy, like with humor, a sense of humor.
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It was like a city guide.
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Where was it on though?
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It was just on the internet.
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I don t know, it was like dailycandy.com.
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You d get a newsletter.
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You d get like an email newsletter.
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OK, that s it sounds familiar.
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Well, they paid me fifty dollars every time I wrote a thing that made it in.
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It was not like something you re making a living off of, but it felt like this accomplishment that it was being like printed somewhere, you know, and it was like a step in a direction.
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It felt like a big deal at the time.
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I know, which is so funny.
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And then I was writing for Hello Giggles, if you remember Hello Giggles.
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And then I started writing in TV and it was just like a real slow progression, like getting the lowest level job and like working my way up.
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I don t know.
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It just kind of evolved in a really cool way.
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When did something hit?
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Like, when did you see momentum?
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The Ryan Murphy Show.
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No, I wouldn t say that.
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Really?
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Getting hired to write on a Ryan Murphy show?
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That s pretty fucking cool.
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I mean, I had a party when you got that job.
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I know, you re like, oh, not that old thing.
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Well, I take a lot of pride in being a writer on the only show of his that never succeeded or made it past one season.
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So I picked the wrong show.
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But that was very cool for me because it was just, I don t know, I just felt like I was in the game.
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Like I hadn t gone to college.
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I would, you know, I was insecure as a writer.
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And it felt really validating to have a real job.
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And I d never made that much money before.
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And it just felt, I felt like so, I did feel like I had made it.
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But then after that... You used to call me every day driving out of the Paramount lot.
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You d be like, I still, I just want you to know, I m like, I can t even believe I get to, I have a drive on, on the Paramount lot.
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It s true.
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It felt really cool.
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SPEAKER_00
How did you guys keep it together here in the city growing up the way you grew up?
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I mean, I just asked that curiously because we have two kids and I was like, I don t know if I can... We have to credit our parents.
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Listen, like I think our parents really instilled, we had just the right amount of fear.
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You know what I mean?
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We were just the right amount afraid of them.
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Also, our mom was very anti-Hollywood.
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She was not interested in us having famous friends or becoming friends with our parents, our friends  parents because of a certain thing.
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She was very anti that world.
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And so she kind of always forced us to stay grounded because she s very grounded.
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And our dad, who was in that world, he still had very high expectations for who we were going to be as people.
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So he wasn t interested in raising spoiled brats.
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He was very much like,
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I grew up poor.
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I worked really hard to make money.
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If you would like to be rich like I m rich, then you should go make your own money.
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And there was always like a step involved in anything that he gave us.
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Right.
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Like, OK, I ll help you get a car, but here s your part in it or I ll help you get your first apartment.
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But here s what you have to do in return.
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It wasn t like everything is handed over.
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So we always still carried
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like a weight of responsibility and guilt around anything that we were given.
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And it just kind of pushed us to be as independent as we could as early as we could.
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We re also told very early on, there s no like trust fund.
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You know, you see a lot of these L.A.
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kids who, you know, I m not judging, but who are raised with wealthy parents or and they know they re coming into money.
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Right.
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And there s something about
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knowing you re coming into money that I can t see where any kind of drive or ambition can come from.
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So we were told very early on, just so you are aware, you are not coming into anything.
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That doesn t that s not going to happen here.
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So and I m so grateful for that.
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No, I, you know, I grew up with some privilege and I and I think sometimes they re like the Internet eats people for this.
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But I actually think sometimes people that grow up with the parents that are very accomplished and have set up their
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that can also be very challenging for those kids, right?
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Because it s such a high bar to live up to, and the pressure to live up to that is different than someone s like, hey, you know, maybe more humble beginnings, you just need to get out there and make it.
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I m just saying it s a different experience, again, if someone s listening.
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No, that s valid too.
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I mean, we still, no matter what we accomplish, you know, we can still find a headline that refers to us as David Foster s daughters.
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and he ll have nothing to do with the accomplishment that we ve created for ourselves on like a TV show or, you know, you can t get a TV writing job because your dad is David Foster.
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Like there s no connection there, but to a lot of people, it s easier for me than it is for someone who just moved here from Ohio.
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And that might be true.
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You still have to prove yourself though.
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And I think it s taken us a long time to shake off the like resentment about that because there s a lot of, there s a disadvantage to it, like you re saying,
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But there s also advantages you can t ignore.
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Like when you grow up around a successful parent, you are exposed to successful people.
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You re exposed to people who have pulled themselves out of like poverty and become a billionaire.
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There are lessons to be learned there.
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SPEAKER_01
You re sitting at a brunch or a dinner with people who have like
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phenomenal advice to be able to give you or like contest you and push you or give you an opportunity as an intern or something.
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I mean it happens and like you know everyone takes advantage of those opportunities and it gives you a huge step up.
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It doesn t give you your career because who s going to give someone a job you know.
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Well, people do.
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People do.
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You can get jobs, obviously, because of who your parents are, but I would say writing is one of the few things where it doesn t matter what you— who you know or what you have.
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SPEAKER_03
You either have a riveting script that takes you on a really incredible ride or you don t.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
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Yeah, no, and I guess, you know, we ve had people with that who have very accomplished, well-known parents on this show.
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And I, you know, in a weird way, like, nobody s gonna shed any tears for them, right?
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I m saying nobody s shedding any tears for either of you.
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And we wouldn t want them to.
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Like, we don t, you can t deny the privilege, you can t deny, Aaron always talks about inroads, you can t, it s really, I think, embarrassing when people are like, act oblivious to their privilege.
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Like, we sit here going, we are so grateful and very aware of our privilege.
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I guess what I m saying though is it could be a lot of pressure to live up to that kind of bar.
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Yeah.
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Because it s just a really high bar.
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I think if we were in the music business, right?
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I think if we wanted to go into the music business, if we wanted to be singers, that s a different, that would, yeah, I think that would be different.
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There s a law in 48 Laws of Power.
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There s a law in 48 Laws of Power.
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I don t know what that is.
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Robert Greene, my favorite writer, 48 Laws of Power.
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And he says that it s I think the law is never live in a never try to live up to a great man s great man s footsteps.
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But it s it s not just for what we re talking.
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It could be anything like if you have
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you know, a mentor that is a great politician or you have a mom that is this or that.
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And you try to do that.
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You re always compared to that.
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And unless you surpass that, which is very hard, you re better to just go some completely different career path.
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Someone who has done it pretty well, which it s very rare, is like Clint Eastwood s son.
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Like Scott Eastwood.
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He s kind of carved out an impressive.
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I actually didn t realize he s his son It s gonna be very hard to surpass that so it s almost like Choosing a different career is more strategic.
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SPEAKER_02
Mm-hmm, because you re always gonna feel like you re falling short.
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That is pressure
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100%.
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We were really lucky because we have no musical talent, so there was no question if we were going to be in the music business.
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But I even mean like for kids who like say take all of like the you know someone who s maybe not known but who s just a very accomplished in business like they ve just been very successful.
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The bar is higher, of course it is, but I think that can also help
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drive you, you know?
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I mean, we didn t have a dad who was like, you know, putting pressure on us, like, I could accomplish this, you have to accomplish that.
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But he very much would be like, you know, people would say to him, why didn t you push your daughters to be in music?
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And he d be like, that s not my job to push them to be in music.
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My parents didn t push me to be in music.
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Like, it was a choice that I made because I was driven to do that.
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And so if you re driven to do that, you ll show up.
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I m in the studio every single day after school.
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But I shouldn t have to
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One thing that I find really refreshing about both of you two from afar is that
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you don t seem affected by a certain vapidness of Hollywood.
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And I m not talking about, I m talking about just like peers, maybe of not friends, peers around you.
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There s a really like a down to earthness about you.
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Do you guys get that a lot?
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Where does that come from?
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We give our mom credit for that.
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Yeah, I mean, honestly, our dad is too.
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Our dad is, for all that he s accomplished, he s really down to earth.
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Thank you, first of all, for saying that.
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I ve learned in therapy you re supposed to, like, let compliments land, so that s really nice.
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Thank you for saying that.
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I only say our mom because we re women and you look at your mom for sort of the, like, setting the standard of
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how you, you know, what your relationship with the world is or how you relate to other women or beauty.
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And our mom is just very earthy.
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And she s very like she goes up to women and tells women how beautiful they are all the time.
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And she s she s just not stuck in vanity.
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She s really quick to tell you how old she is.
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And she looks very real and normal.
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And I think growing up and seeing that as an example compared to a lot of the other things around just really made me want to like
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age gracefully and be comfortable in my own skin.
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How do you guys deal with the vapidness that does come along with Hollywood?
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So weird.
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I don t know if it s like for me if I never fully feel like I belong.
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So there s that part of you that still would appear down to earth because I don t feel this entitled.
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I feel like anything I ve built could be taken away from me at any time.
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So I m always so afraid.
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I mean, listen, this is bad.
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I operate.
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Sarah lives with a lot of fear.
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I would live with a lot of fear, like a lot of self-esteem issues.
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And so I don t have that.
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Aaron does not.
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Aaron s like, I am a 10.
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No, but I just don t have that.
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No, no, she doesn t.
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And you know what s interesting?
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And I was going to say, when we re talking about privilege, there are so many sort of layers and levels of privilege.
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Like, I think it s real privilege to grow up in a home with two parents.
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who make you feel really seen.
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I have friends who are literally the most confident women you have ever met in your life.
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And it came from the home they grew up in.
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It came from being in a home with two loving parents who were on the same page, who mirrored an incredible relationship.
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And they re winning in life because of that step up.
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I do think that there are so many layers of privilege.
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Are you answering the question?
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I don t know if you are.
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I don t know.
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I don t think so.
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Why are you so fearful?
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Oh, God.
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What are you so afraid of, Sarah?
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Everything!
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No, listen, I think that I have a lot of guilt about my privilege.
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I think I have a lot of guilt about the opportunities we ve been given.
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I think I feel guilt around... I don t know.
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I m just always afraid things are going to be taken away from me.
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I have a book for you.
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Have you read?
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Michael s going to get mad because I mention it every episode because it s changed my life.
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You Can Heal Your Life by Louise Hay.
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Oh, I don t know it.
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You re such a little book nerd.
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I love it.
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I know.
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I really love this about you.
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It s so cool.
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You can read.
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I m so happy for you.
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No, you don t have to even read it.
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You can just listen to it.
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Do you know I ve never done that?
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I ve never done that.
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You re a reader.
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You can read.
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I like to read.
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I listen to this book.
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Eight times a year.
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Just everything you re saying, it will teach you how to completely flip everything you just said.
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Sarah lives in fear that there s not enough of something, right?
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That she always thinks like, I m not gonna make enough money or I m not gonna, there s something that s not enough.
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And I just always for some reason think there s enough.
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I don t stress about it.
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But that goes back to our child, that goes back to I was paying attention to things that she wasn t paying attention to.
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Because you were older.
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Yeah, so I was paying attention to my mom always being like, oh god, like I don t know if I can pay for this or I don t know if, you know, always fearful around those things.
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I had this conversation with my mother the other day because I have two younger siblings.
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And when I was a kid, my parents were going through tough times.
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And I think like when I was three, four, five, I would see them freaking out about all those tough times.
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But then when my sisters came along, things were better.
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So I m wired a little bit the same way.
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What can happen?
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So I think that probably, if you re a child and your parents are going through that kind of stuff, you re getting that.
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Well, my mom would come to me when she d be stressed.
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She d be like, oh, the child support hasn t come yet.
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Like, I don t know if we can do that thing.
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I mean, she would talk to me.
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So you internalize all of it.
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Yes.
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And it s taken us so long to unpack that.
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For her, I think, for you to be like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
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Like you were the oldest.
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Because I just thought she was a pathological liar.
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She would talk about her childhood.
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I m like, girl, you can t go around saying like we didn t grow up with anything.
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And like, you can t say that we grew up with a lot.
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You know, I think that stuff gets wired really early because my other sister is 10 years younger than me.
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And by the time she came along, everything was rolling for her.
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I m more like you.
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You re always like, I m going to be fine.
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We re going to be great.
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So much money.
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Spend the money because we re going to make more.
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I feel like you just have to tell yourself that.
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I do think it s a bit of a state of mind because you have to be, you have to A, believe, you have to bet on yourself, right?
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Like I m betting on myself and I know that I m going to win.
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And then B, if I don t win, if I lose money, if this is the peak of where I get to, that has to be okay.
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It just has to be.
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I am very comfortable living with what is.
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Not what I want it to be, but what is.
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I can make the most of it.
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I really believe that I can make the most of it.
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You re also not on this train that I think a lot of people are on right now, which is this hustle mentality where people are so addicted to more.
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and more and more and nothing s enough.
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It s like we live in this multi-hyphenate world now where if you don t have a podcast and a brand, investments, and you work at a tech company and you re acting, like, then you re not doing enough.
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You re 100% right.
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And I think, yeah, and I think that it s not
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It s really actually bad because everyone ends up doing just like 30% at everything and you can t be 100% at all those things.
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And I m sitting here as someone who has a lot of different, my hand in a lot of different things.
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And I sort of sometimes go like, okay, have all these things happened because
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it out.
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When you have innate talent, when you are a writer, when you are someone who truly— no one can take that from you.
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You don t need Instagram.
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She s like, not even— you don t need it to give you validation.
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And I think we live in a world now where it used to be we only knew someone s name if they were, like, killing it, right?
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But now, because of all the things, it just fucks with people, I think.
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I think it really fucks with people, and you don t have it.
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I struggle a lot with all the things you just listed and then showing up as a mother Oh, yeah, because it s like you got to check all the boxes and then also like I want to be the best mother But you can t it s like third the 30% thing you said I totally understand that I feel like I m sometimes doing things 30% and it s you really don t want to be doing 30% of being a mom and that s really hard at the same time
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to do it 100% hands-on, always present, would take away from doing the career, and I don t think that would make me fully fulfilled.
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So it s a mindfuck.
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But your kids are, do you have boys or girls?
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A boy and a girl.
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Oh, the perfect family.
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It s so cute.
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But I think that you have to also remember that, you know, for kids growing up with a working mom who s like, I love you.
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I want to be there.
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I have to miss this thing is also a sense of pride that you give your kids because as they get older,
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They re really proud.
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You have a boy who s going to want to fall in love with a woman who is independent and makes her own money, and a girl who looks up and is like, I can do it all.
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I can be a mom and I can work.
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And so if you reframe it, I feel like your kids are going to one day be like, it s really dope that you were working your ass off when you were raising us.
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I hope so, but I do have to say my son is going to be living with me for the rest of his life.
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You re marrying your son.
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I whisper Oedipus in his ear.
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So fucking weird.
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Moms and their sons.
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So my son s going to stay with me.
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So you re in a relationship with your son.
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Let me tell you, all my guy friends that had moms that did all that stuff, they struggle a lot later with women.
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Go up under the umbilical cord and how you didn t have it.
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They re not used to getting with a woman that doesn t make everything about them.
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Because the main woman in their life makes everything about them.
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Michael s mom did not make everything about him.
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Set me up perfect.
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Your mom is half Japanese.
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I m quarter Japanese.
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I am fascinated by you.
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You re the whitest looking person I ve seen.
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Is it Asian?
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It s a quarter Japanese penis.
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No, but she... They re really known for being really well endowed.
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That s a great thing.
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I was just saying, I had the dynamic of that kind of Asian household.
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And I m grateful for it now.
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And she worked all the time, too.
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I m attracted to women that are doing things.
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But I see a lot of my guy friends that moms, they baby them and made them about everything.
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And then they get in a relationship and they don t get that.
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They re like, what s going on here?
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Here s how I justify it.
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Okay, here s how I justify it.
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Don t set them up to fail.
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No.
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I justify all the things I do and things that I miss for my kids.
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I justify it because you have to know when to say no to people, right?
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And to events and to invitations and to trips.
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So it s like for me, I m saying I m getting invited to something, you know, really cool, some Hollywood event.
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And I m going, no, thank you.
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I m staying home, putting my kids to bed.
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So I think what happens is we see a lot of working, you know, moms who don t know how to.
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They re not really working.
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No, but just a lot of women who don t know how to say no.
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So it s like you re doing the podcast, you re doing the brand, you re doing the this, you re doing the that, you re doing the movie, you re doing the business stuff, whatever, and you re also like out every night.
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Right, so you re teaching that addiction to your kids.
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Yeah, so I think if there s a balance, I think if you re doing all the things, that s great.
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But for me, I just think I don t, and this is probably bad, but I don t really go on like Cabo trips.
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And some would say that s bad.
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Some would say you need to go do the Cabo trips with your girlfriends.
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But for me, the only way for it all to work with me is I m really, I put my kids to bed basically every night.
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I m the same way.
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Every night.
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And I drive them to school every morning.
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Every housewife I ve ever interviewed, I m like, how do you do those girls trips?
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I m like, oh, those are insane.
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They re so toxic.
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I don t want to be judgmental because I ve been judgmental on my podcast since like, who the fuck am I?
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Like, everyone should do what works for them.
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I m just saying what works for me and why my kids don t feel like my mom is always gone and my mom s always doing this is because of nighttime.
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I like to be in bed at 730.
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So I m on the same vibration.
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And that s why I like Austin, because it s a protective bubble and we can come here and we can do what we need to do and come with our briefcase and leave with it.
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And we re back.
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When did you guys move to Austin?
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2020.
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That s cool.
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And it s like, I look through it of a lens is like, is this worth being away from my kids?
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I also don t have FOMO.
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Do you have, you must have?
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No!
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Yeah.
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But you guys, FOMO s a real thing.
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I get JOMO, joy of missing out.
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I think a lot of people get JOMO now though.
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I m noticing COVID changed things.
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Listen, I only want to do things I want to do.
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Yeah.
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Same.
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Yeah, you were asking when you came in like we do we ll do this like a hard week of just like a bunch of these but then we re kind of reclusive.
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Do you guys have a vitamin company?
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Did I make that up?
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No.
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You don t have a vitamin company?
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No.
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No.
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Maybe you ve worked with...
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You have something, but you have like products.
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It s got like fraud vibes though.
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Oh, I m going to give you an ice roller.
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Yeah, you re the ice roller.
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But wait, you have nothing to do with any vitamin company.
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I mean, I m sure we talk about a lot of, you know, we talk about health and wellness a lot.
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It s very interesting you guys doing this podcast together.
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I m so fascinated with like the dynamic.
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It s cool.
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Well, look at it this way.
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We ve known each other since we were 12.
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Sometimes people get weird about the banter.
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Like, oh my God, does she hate that?
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I m sure that you guys get that too.
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People get mad about the banter.
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They can imagine.
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since you were 12, right?
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So in a romantic relationship, it s different because since fetuses, there s an expectation of siblings to like be like bitchy towards each other.
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But in a relationship, it s like it s a more fragile dynamic.
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So I could see how people would try to find fault in that.
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I guess I love my dynamic.
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I get eaten alive on YouTube.
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They re like, show me your husband.
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I m like, he loves it.
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He you know, every woman in my life, every woman in my life is, again, going back to moms, mothers and sons, like every woman in my life that I have
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strong relationships with, like even like this business I co-founded with my partner who s a woman, right?
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Wait, what s the business?
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Dear Media.
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Wait, is Dear Media yours?
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SPEAKER_02
Oh, you co-founded it?
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Yeah, I m the CEO.
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I did not know that.
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Good for you.
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Oh my God!
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That s how I see you at network, you re like, good for you.
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What the fuck?
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This is your business?
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But I get it, I get where you re at.
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Oh my God!
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A little bit of a mindfuck.
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Oh, he just got hotter, she s like, oh, forget about the hairline!
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SPEAKER_01
No, she s into him now.
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You know what?
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What?
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I slowly reel him in over time.
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Sarah just started taking you way more seriously.
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No, no, no.
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You just sat up straight.
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I m like, my God.
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We slowly, yeah, Patty Singer was here the other day and I was like, I slowly reel him in that way.
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That s really funny.
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SPEAKER_00
You don t want to lead with it, you know?
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Yeah.
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No, but I think like,
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You re literally talking on a Dear Media mic with the Dear Media background in, and you could be wearing a Dear Media shirt.
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Listen, I love doing the podcast with my wife, but from an enterprise standpoint, I need to make it a little bigger, right?
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I like a man who thinks big.
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I can t just say, like, we re just going to do a podcast together.
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We ve got to, like, think a little bigger.
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But most of the women... Like Mauricio.
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Mauricio s not just that husband.
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He is rich as fuck.
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Well, they re actually divorced, I think.
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I don t know where I even came up with that comparison I m mostly attracted to very strong women in my life that s who I spend most of the time with I ve done very poorly with women where I can just kind of like truck over I need somebody that s gonna like really give it to me
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But you shouldn t get burned for that because the truth is like we all have the issues that we were given from our childhood or whatever we all have our preferences and if there s a girl who you know there s plenty of guys who like girls that are a damsel in distress and they want to be saved and that s not your what you re attracted to and you re allowed to be attracted to whatever you want.
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Like I don t I don t need the meal on the table at home that like I would be like what are you doing?
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I m also, I m like, I m not an octopus.
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Like, what do you want me to, like, it s like, the blowjob, the brand, I gotta be a mom.
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SPEAKER_04
Are you doing a lot of blowjobs?
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SPEAKER_00
I do need the blowjobs.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, all the time.
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SPEAKER_04
I ll do a blowjob all the time.
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SPEAKER_04
You re doing weekly blowjobs?
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SPEAKER_00
Whenever.
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SPEAKER_04
Whenever he wants.
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SPEAKER_04
That s a hot tip to me.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I can break it down.
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I have a whole theory on this.
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Wait.
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Hold on.
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So, wait.
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I m sorry.
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SPEAKER_00
We haven t been together this long for no reason.
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No, no.
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Okay.
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So, there s never been a time when he s like, wants to walk, or is like, okay.
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And you re like, I have a microphone in front of your face.
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And you re like, I m tired.
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Like, I m tired.
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Not tonight.
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I m tired all the time.
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But you just grin and bear it.
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I m gonna tell advice I say this on the podcast I called my stepmom when we were first dating when I was 21 years old and I was bartending until midnight and I was doing this blog and I was Exhausted and I was going to school full-time and I said he wants to have sex all the time I m just tired and my stepmom goes Lauren you rally
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And ever since she said that to me, thank you in my entire life I rally wow because I think like no, but let s but hold on but I think it s important I do and people get mad at me for saying this you re gonna paint a bad picture.
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No.
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No, I know a lot of women I don t think it s a bad picture if I if I see I love it.
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She s like beat up and done I m not like I have like little tricks that I could tell you later.
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Like I mouth tape my mouth shut and let s look I do not disturb
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Yeah, I m not a creep about it.
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I m not gonna be like, hey, you look really disheveled.
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But you re not gonna like shame her if she doesn t want to.
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Yeah, I m not like, hey, you said you d rally and you re like on your last leg.
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No, he s... You re thoughtful.
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Okay, so you don t have like flu sex.
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Or you do?
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Flu sex?
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We ve had flu sex.
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I don t know if it s flu.
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I don t know if I m into flu sex.
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I don t know if I m into flu sex either.
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Maybe you re not asking for it.
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I ll rally.
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Good for you.
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You ll be married forever.
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I don t know.
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You know, I don t know.
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I might want to evolve.
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I might want to have a second marriage, a third.
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I don t know.
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Who knows?
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Wow.
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I do think that blowjobs are a secret sauce to a happy marriage.
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I do.
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It s once you get the hang of it, too, and it s like, it s two minutes of your life.
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Just give me a little more credit.
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If you know what you re doing, it really shouldn t take that long.
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Well, I took a class once.
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I don t know if it really worked, but like, have you heard of this, like, basket weave thing?
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I took a whole class.
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What s the basket weave?
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Like, you re supposed to, like, basket weave.
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You re supposed to work the tip.
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We re in a basket.
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We ve grown like this.
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What is this?
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I ve never seen... Wait, I don t know.
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I think it s like... That s not what I should say.
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I don t think you need any lessons.
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You guys, I ve been in a relationship for 17 years.
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So like blowjobs are like... 17 years?
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Yeah, 17 years.
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Good for you.
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Congratulations.
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That s awesome.
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We met in New York at Nobu next door.
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It s like a really long story.
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Well, I don t know if it is.
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17 years is a long time.
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It s a really long time.
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Married?
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17 together or 17?
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We re not married.
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Together, 17 years, two kids.
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Your Goldie Hawning.
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She got that example, the Goldie Hawning.
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I like that.
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Well, I just was always like, okay, if you don t get married, you can t get divorced.
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Like, I cannot get married.
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But I never dreamed of a wedding.
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Like, I was proposed to by guys I was in love with pre-hymn, and I was like, it was not, like, exciting to me.
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I think that s so cool that you ve been together 17 years and you re not married.
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Yeah, but it doesn t come with its own issues.
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Why?
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Because he is more traditional.
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I mean, the truth is, like, it s not the healthiest.
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Looking at it in hindsight, it probably would have been better to do it.
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But you won t do it now, even after all this time?
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She s got 20 different things going on and she already is feeling like the 30% thing and now you got to get married on top of it.
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With all due respect, I would never do like a wedding.
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And I just met you.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, might as well.
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It seems like a little bit of like a trauma thing here.
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He was like 17 years.
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He hasn t approved it, you know, if he wants it.
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Well, I think it gets to a point where it turns like it becomes like more resentful.
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He s always like, oh, yeah, well, like, fuck you.
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You know what I mean?
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Not he doesn t say that, but I think it becomes a thing like the man proposes, he propose.
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And I was very much like, oh, no, we are not getting married.
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Like, let s just be together.
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That marriage is what if we get divorced?
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That s so traumatizing.
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Objection at some point.
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Exactly.
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But I didn t look at it like that for a long time.
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I mean, you know, it s fine.
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We have two kids, 17 years.
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It s a very long time, but I think it s I don t.
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It is complicated.
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Yeah, I think it s sexy.
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It becomes, I thought it was sexy and the truth is it maybe is a little complicated and the kids are a little bit like, huh?
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And you know, he s like, well, ask mom.
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Kids have his last name?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they have his last name.
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And how old was he?
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Yeah, 13 and 8.
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13 and 8.
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I think it s hot and sexy.
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Yeah.
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And what I like about it.
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Could have saved a lot of paperwork and a lot of time.
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And what I do like about it,
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It s like you guys want to stay because you want to stay.
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I think there s something loving in that.
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Totally.
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Does that make sense?
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No, either one of us could walk out at any time.
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That s literally, we don t have— It would be hard.
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It would be hard, that s true.
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And how long have you been married?
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I ve been married since, what year is it?
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2019.
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Four years.
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Four years.
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Yeah.
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And do you like being married?
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I love being married.
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And what s your husband s wife?
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I m way more traditional.
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Erin s like a housewife.
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Erin lives for cooking.
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She s like a Michelin star chef every night.
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She ll literally come home from a 15-hour writer s room, pregnant, show up, blow him, and then make him a meal.
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Stop!
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And then clean the kitchen.
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Actually, Lauren, maybe I do need you to switch gears a little bit.
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She s like an insane cook.
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You re nine months pregnant, cooking, blowing all the things.
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All of it.
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And working.
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See, Lauren, you say you can t cook.
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You can now you can do everything that is on the list.
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Looks like you can do one more now.
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Aaron s an insane cook.
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No, I wife pretty hard.
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But my husband is just the best.
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Like we re just I don t know.
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We just got really, really lucky with each other.
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And we re just obsessed with each other.
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How did you guys meet?
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Wow.
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Did he come up to you?
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No, I hit on him.
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Well, she slid into his DMs.
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Yeah, that s true.
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Wait, you saw him working out at the gym and then you found him on Instagram?
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Well, I saw him working out at the gym.
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Sarah worked out at the same gym, and Sarah dresses like a huge whore at the gym.
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So do I. And he didn t hit on her, and I was like, that s a good step in the right direction.
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He also didn t hit on me.
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Oh, Sarah s like, yeah, he did.
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No, he did not.
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I mean, I wouldn t have blamed him if he did.
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He was just very much like, you don t hit on girls at the gym because then it like, it screws up your schedule if something gets weird.
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You know, he s like, I don t want to lose my 9 a.m.
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time slot.
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Yeah.
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So it s not worth it to me.
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He s like a very good guy.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, I just started feeling like something was up with him.
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Like, I just felt a vibe.
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I was like, I like, I just liked his vibe.
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I got kind of drunk by myself one night and I went on to the gym s Instagram.
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Okay, see, this is, I love a stalk like this.
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Keep going, walk us through it.
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The cousins, sisters, dads, dogs.
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Then I found the trainers and then I found his trainer.
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Yep, found it.
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And then I found who his trainer follows.
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Found a guy named Simon.
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And I was like, fuck, it s private.
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I can t like snoop around his life.
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I don t know if he has a girlfriend.
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I don t know how old he is.
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So I ll just follow him.
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And that s how it started.
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Yeah.
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You know, I have to say I m happy that that worked out for you, but I would not like to be hit on at the gym.
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If I was sweating and working out and a guy came up to me, I d be like,
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What?
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That s why he said that it was never appropriate.
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I get it.
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He was very much like, there s a boundary there.
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I m not going to cross it.
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And I was like, well, I will cross it.
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Yeah.
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It s OK if the girl crosses, but it s a little creepy when the guy... Yeah, I agree.
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But there is kind of an interesting lesson in this, is that we found out years later that years before that, one of Aaron s friends had said to him, you know who you should meet?
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Aaron Foster.
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No, no, no.
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There was no names.
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There wasn t?
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No, there was no names.
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But our girlfriend, Julie Yoren, this girl was playing a poker game at someone s house.
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She was sat next to Simon three years before we met.
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And I m two years older than Simon.
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And he was like a fuckboy before we met.
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And they were sitting at this poker game and she was like, you are such a great guy.
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Like, I have a girlfriend I would love to set you up with.
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And he goes, how old is she?
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And she said, 33.
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And he s like, nah, I m out.
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And then he met me in person two years later when I was 35.
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And he was into me in person.
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But the idea of a 33 year old was not for him.
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I noticed that your friends can be like that, too.
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I think every guy can be like that.
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I would love your guys  take on this.
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There s a little bit of a epidemic going on.
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What is it?
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The epidemic is that guys are trying to pick the girl like they re picking out a cake at Vons.
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It s like vanilla.
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Cherry sprinkles.
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I want a rim of lace with 16 black candles Plastic cut like it s you can t get every single little tiny little detail.
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It s you re not gonna find anyone
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But it s also when you re dating online, you re looking at a profile like it s a cake, right?
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You re like, it s a menu.
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OK, he s this height.
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He has this color hair.
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He s been married this many times.
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He has this many kids.
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He does this for a living.
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So he probably makes this amount of money.
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This is what his friends look like.
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You re looking at it like it s a menu.
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It s such an interesting example that for Simon, the idea of a woman in her 30s, he was like, I m not interested in that because I don t want what she wants.
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A woman who s 33 wants to settle down.
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That s not where I m at in my life.
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But then in real life, he meets someone two years later who s 35 now, who s like definitely looking to settle down.
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But you aren t looking at it like these menu options.
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You re looking like a person.
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And he liked the whole package.
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He just didn t like the idea when you re giving the stats.
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We always say on paper, people never, it s never as good as you think.
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Like, we have friends who are, you know, 40 with three kids and blah blah.
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You go tell a single guy that like, oh, she s 40, she s got a couple.
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You re like, no, that s a past.
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But then you meet her in person, you re like, holy shit.
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I can make this work.
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She s freaking hot.
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She s fun.
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She s cool.
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She s intelligent.
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And that s the problem with dating online, I think, because Simon and I were both on the same dating apps, but I probably wasn t in his algorithm because he cut the age off before me.
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Right.
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And you guys are soulmates.
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Joe Rogan was on the dating app.
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I think he s 5 6 .
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Literally.
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He has no hair.
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Like I think that people need to be a little bit more fluid that like what you guys are saying like you got to like meet someone in person and feel their essence and like feel their frequency and like I mean it s so easy to judge someone so quickly.
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And we re saying that as former creative directors of Bumble.
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Like we worked at Bumble for years.
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After we did the episode about air quality, I personally emailed the Jasper team and said, can you guys come over to my house and put a Jasper air filter in both my kids  rooms and downstairs?
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I already had two, but I wanted two more in my house.
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I just think it made so much sense when he was saying that we all think about
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what we re eating, what skin products we use, and none of us are thinking about the air that we re breathing and we re in the air all day.
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It s the most beautiful air purifier on the market by far, but it s also the most effective.
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I have found my sleep is so much better when I sleep with it on.
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I wouldn t even give it to my kids.
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On the episode, I was like, I m keeping my own.
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My kids have to get another one.
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It s awesome for sleep, mold, allergies, skin, aging.
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If you have eczema, if you have any rashes, it s great for that.
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I also think if you have asthma, it s a non-negotiable.
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So my sleep stack is red light, little magnesium water,
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my Kindle, skinny confidential mouth tape, and a Jasper.
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This is the ultimate sleep sack, let me tell you.
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But clean air is really a non-negotiable.
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This is so important.
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We re breathing it every single day, all day long.
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I have possibly the best PMS hack on the planet and I ve been playing with this and trying it and it is so good you guys.
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Okay, so sometimes I ll get like a stomach ache when I m on my period or like a cramp
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And what I ve been doing is I m spraying 2,700 plus milligrams of elemental magnesium on my stomach, okay?
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This is a miracle mineral and it s known to ease discomfort and soothe period symptoms.
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So the other night, not only did I do that, I sprayed it all over my stomach, then I took my heated, warmed lavender neck pillow and I put it on top of this magnesium.
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spray that I put on my stomach and it was seriously insane.
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I didn t need to take an Advil.
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I could just lay there and relax and the amazing magnesium did its work.
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The one that I ve been using is a cycle soothing spray and it s by Primally Pure.
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You may have heard me talk about my daily non-negotiables on past episodes, one of which is a morning walk with my son.
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So after I wake up, I try to make the bed.
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I hydrate with an electrolyte water and I do my quick wellness and skincare routine.
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I make my kids breakfast.
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Then my son and I go outside for a walk.
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So he is in the stroller and I m doing a walking meditation.
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We get in our morning light and movement in and we love it.
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It s like a habit stack if I ve ever seen one.
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And during those morning walks, I m wearing Nike specifically at my indie bra and my Nike Motiva walking shoes.
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The bra is so supportive.
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In fact, it comes in different support levels so you can get like low, medium or high support depending on the size of your boobs or preference.
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Plus, the bra has adjustable straps and is so comfortable.
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Nike s Motiva walking shoes are smooth, they re cushioned, they re comfortable, they re great for like a daily walk.
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And what I like about them is they give you optimum support for every move every day.
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I have plantar fasciitis and these are amazing for that.
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Both the Indie Bra and the Nike Motivas are the move.
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The Indie Bra just sculpts your body in a perfect way.
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I feel like we ve been talking a lot lately about tailored, well-fitting clothes, and this is it when it comes to athletic wear.
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Another thing that I love is they re both so durable, so you re getting high-quality, flattering apparel that you can wash and wear over and over again.
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You ll just keep reaching for these staples just like me.
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Shop now at Nike.com.
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Again, that s Nike.com.
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Creative director as a Bumble.
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Did you love doing that?
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We loved it.
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It was great.
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No, it was awesome.
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How did you guys... You guys were early there.
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We were early there.
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How did you get that?
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Like, what did you do as a creative director?
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Because her team, Whitney s team, the founder of Bumble, her team loved our show.
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So she just, we came and did a speaking engagement to her team.
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No, not to her team.
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We did a, we did like a, like a, we did a panel with her.
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Whatever it was.
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It was a speaking engagement.
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What year did you join?
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2017.
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So early.
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Yeah, it was really cool.
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I mean that really is what kicked off us navigating into like tech and more of a business side of our career.
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I was gonna ask you guys how you got into investing and all that because you re savvy investors.
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It really started with Bumble because Bumble really opened our eyes.
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Whitney is really cool about thinking outside the box and so we had this great panel.
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She saw that we really could like speak to women and she thought
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I want to hire you guys in a larger capacity.
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And so she brought us on and it really kind of woke us up to our abilities outside of entertainment.
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And then that kind of made us confident to start.
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We d never had equity in a company before.
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Everyone told us not to take the job.
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They were like, you are just coming into your own as I know.
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Yeah, but we found that a lot in our in our careers.
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But everyone was like, you are just coming off of your show Barely Famous.
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It was getting it was sort of it was getting
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People were talking about it and putting us in a box that we had never been in.
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We were all of a sudden these respected comedic actresses and it was opening up this whole new world for us.
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And then we went and took that job.
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So people were like, wait a minute.
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The New York Times is saying you guys are like the blonde curb your enthusiasm.
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It s like doing a Vegas residency and like thinking that your career is over or something.
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Right.
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But I wasn t the market for that.
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But I remember feeling like when that happened, like the brand got a personality.
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Does that make sense?
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And that was Whitney s.
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Yeah, that s great.
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I think it s hot to have juxtaposition.
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like you know when Supreme does a collab with like something so random and you re like huh or when Glossier did the collab with Swiss Miss chocolate I didn t see that but that s cool you know you remember Swiss Miss like the chocolate powder and Glossier did that I like love
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Like an unexpected pairing.
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Yes.
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That s why I thought that Bumble thing, it felt cool.
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You know what I mean?
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It was really cool for us.
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I mean, it really set us on a different path.
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And I think now it s really common for people in entertainment to be connected with a brand like that, but at the time it wasn t.
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And so it was one of those things that really taught us to take a risk and say yes to something that might seem sort of out of your comfort zone or you might fail at it.
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You don t know until you try.
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And what s the worst that happens?
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Like you fail and then you go back to something else.
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And I think you just have to.
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It s another area where I think for Sarah, she was really scared and worried to fail at it and that it like sends us down the wrong path.
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And for me, I was like, this is sort of a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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You have this crazy chance and it either pays off really, really big or it kind of goes away.
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And I was just really excited because for the first time in my life, I was sort of being taken seriously as an actress.
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I mean, kind of.
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You know, and I had never experienced that.
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So I was finally feeling that and then I was like, wait, if we go do this, then I m not going to get another opportunity.
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Like then I was just, everything I do, everything I do is fear-based, you know, but then what happened is, you know, a huge part of investing in early stage consumer companies is
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is you re educating the customer, right?
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So we had to educate the customer on why it s not lame to go find a friend on Bumble, you know, because we were brought on to launch the Bumble BFF and biz arms of the business.
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So a lot of education comes along with that.
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Like, guys, it s cool.
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Like, it s cool to meet friends online.
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It s cool to meet business, potential business partners online.
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And then from that, we got the mirror.
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which was, it was pre-launch early stage, the workout mirror.
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And we had to then educate the consumer on why it s not weird to work out to a mirror.
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And it became this, this thing like, oh, you want to launch your brand?
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Like call the fosters, like bring them on.
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So that s how we started just getting so much deal flow.
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And we were angel investing and writing small checks and always getting advisory shares.
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And it got to a point where we were just, we were leaving
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too much money on the table by not raising money.
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You started your own fund.
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We raised money because we wanted to write, you know, $400,000 checks instead of $25,000 checks.
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So how do you even think to start that and conceptualize it?
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How does that even start?
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Well, we had a problem, right?
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Our problem was we re getting deal flow that we can t fill.
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So we re getting allocations to deals that are really good and where we d be so lucky to be on the cap table.
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And we re like, we can t
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We don t have the personal capital anymore.
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So someone says, hey, you guys, we ll give you a million dollar allocation.
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You re like, okay, we don t have the million for all of these different deals.
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A million, I mean, 150,000.
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Sure, whatever it is.
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Sure, whatever it was.
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So Erin s husband goes, you guys, you ve reached the point now.
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Like, you need real skin in the game.
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You need to own between, you know, three and 10% of these businesses that you are helping.
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I know.
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You guys need to go.
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All those blowjobs are really getting, he thinks very clearly.
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Blow it down, blow the house down.
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He s like, you guys need to go out and you need to raise money, but you need to do it with a great partner because you re doing a million other things
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So I know who your partner should be.
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It should be this guy, Phil Schwartz.
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Phil is an investor out of Chicago.
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He brought us the mirror because it was too late stage for his firm.
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He brought it to us.
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We had stayed in contact with him and he s like, that s who you need to do it with.
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So he s our partner.
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His fund in Chicago anchored our fund and it s like an incredible, it s an incredible partnership.
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So what kind of, what stage companies are you looking at now?
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I mean like seed a like we re opportunistic up to a little bit of the fun, but I wonder we should,
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Well, the reason I asked you, you asked about the supplement thing.
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Now I understand because what we do through here is we will write checks, but we re not a VC, so we ll do early.
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We stood up these brands.
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But you don t like lead rounds.
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We have lead rounds, but early.
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But then we ll go into things.
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I don t know how much I want to say, but after I ll tell you.
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But we go into a lot of things and the theory is that then this platform of Dear Media can help accelerate
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For sure.
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Those things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But to your point, you re like, if I m moving the needle for you guys, I need, I need it.
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But we find people like you that will lead and then we ll say, OK, well, we don t lead rounds.
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OK.
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But our partner does.
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But you get what I m saying?
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It s like, yeah, like the theory is like, OK, like, could this platform give a greater lift to whatever it is?
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And I think what s cool about Dear Media is that there s a hundred podcasts on it, so you can put it through the funnel of the podcast.
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Yeah, totally.
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Now, you guys have built an incredible thing.
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Yeah, it s all him.
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No, it s not.
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No, it s not.
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It s not all me.
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Don t sell yourself short.
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Those blowjobs are really getting things done.
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Slow jobs.
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Talent recommendation.
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Maybe similar to you guys.
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Conversation.
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No, it s a partnership.
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He talks a lot in the morning.
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No, but I looked at like how hard it was because I come from the e-com world.
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I looked at how expensive it was getting.
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I m like, what s the unfair advantages if you could eliminate that spend?
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You mean to acquire a customer?
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Yeah.
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So if you can eliminate that spend and speak directly to the person, that s an unfair advantage.
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That s why we re doing Favorite Daughter with our clothing company.
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Yeah, I want to talk about you as entrepreneurs, because I look at you as entrepreneurs now.
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Is that how you would identify?
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I would like that, yeah.
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I mean, it s crazy.
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Multi-hyphenate.
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Yeah, I mean, I think, sure, I ll take it all.
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I mean, I think
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I don t know for you.
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I mean, Aaron s the creator of a Kristen Bell Netflix show that premieres in October.
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September.
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No big deal.
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Casual.
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Yeah, casual.
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Casual.
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Let s see if it s a hit.
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Hopefully it s a hit.
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No, it is going to be a hit.
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It s going to be the biggest hit ever.
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It s going to be the biggest hit ever.
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No, but it actually is.
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You re kind of funny because, well, you re really funny, but because you re like very confident, but also like kind of hedging a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Does that make sense?
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Like it s a big deal what we re talking about.
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Did you guys think you were going to come to therapy?
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It is a big deal.
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No, it s a big deal, but I think I always just, I think I try to take things with like a measured amount of excitement or enthusiasm because.
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So many disappointments.
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Yeah, especially as a writer, honestly, you do a lot of work that you don t get paid to do.
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or you get paid really good money for something that never makes it on the air.
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And the second something is dropped or canceled or they don t want your script or whatever it is, you genuinely have to close that chapter and move on to the next thing.
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You have to get over it.
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There s no turning back.
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No one else is going to buy it from you now.
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Those words will go nowhere.
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No one will see them.
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You just have to let it go.
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I mean, occasionally other streamers or networks will come and revive, but very seldom.
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Once you re dead, you re dead.
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So I just sort of have a mentality of like, if it s a hit,
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Everyone s going to know it s a hit and I don t have to talk about it, right?
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If I hype it up and it s not a hit, then that ll be embarrassing.
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So I like to try to let it speak for itself.
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I feel like, though, you have to go through all those different things you went through to get to where you need to be.
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Does that make sense?
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Totally.
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No, I ve had a really unique year that has felt really exciting.
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I m not trying to downplay it in a way that it s like,
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so humble it s unrealistic or something like it s more an internal thing where I get really excited and proud of myself in like small ways but I get nervous to hype something up publicly because I have no control at this point whether people love it or hate it you know so I kind of am curious to see what happens but it was very interesting for me to be
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pregnant while shooting my first full-to-series show on Netflix with stars that were in it like they were in it.
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It was really surreal for me and really challenging and fulfilling in a very cool way.
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What s it about?
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It s loosely based on me, when I met my husband, I converted to Judaism for him, or for me, but you know, because of him.
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And the process was just so interesting.
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And so I sold a show about a girl who has
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a podcast that s sort of about like sex in the modern world.
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And then she falls in love with this guy who s this young, cute rabbi.
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So my husband s not a rabbi.
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He s just Jewish.
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But for the sake of the show, you know, you like dial it up a little bit to be clear.
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We sold this when we had a deal at Disney like five years ago.
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So the fact that it s actually happening now, I think there s such a disconnect that people don t understand how long
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things can actually take, you know?
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And then it becomes real when Kristen Bell and Adam Brody want to be in it.
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Yeah, they re really cute together.
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So do you just keep firing off things?
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Like that one you did, you have to wait five years, but in between?
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No, we tried to sell like 10 things under our deal.
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We didn t sell anything.
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I was having a real crisis of faith for a few years because I was a writer who wrote about my life experiences, typically about being single and like not figuring it out.
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And then I met someone and I got really happy and I didn t feel very inspired and he s very private.
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So he was sort of like, you can t really write about our life.
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And then I sold this idea and it was sort of uncomfortable for him because he was like, wait, so you re like making fun of me and my family and how different we are from you and your family.
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and it just I realized there s another person in my life that I have to take into account now I can t just like making fun of myself is easy but there s this other person there so it was uncomfortable for a while for me to figure out how to do it and I honestly did get really into being a wife and like becoming domestic and we were trying to have kids for like for so long now since we got together basically and that just became my focus and
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all the business stuff is really fulfilling, but when you have like a creative talent that you want to fulfill and you re not doing that, you feel a little like you re not living up to your potential.
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So I had a hard time around COVID just feeling like, what am I doing with my life?
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I m not really fulfilling what I m meant to be doing.
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I m fulfilling stuff that s fun to do.
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Everything else felt like fluff to you.
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Like, and that s what I was saying, like when you have such an innate talent,
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right, like being a writer, it doesn t matter that you have a profitable clothing line or an investment fund or a podcast that people really love.
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If you re not doing the thing you know you were put on this earth to do, which is write, you re not, you feel like a failure.
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You feel like- Yeah, I did feel like a failure for sure.
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So then when the show finally got bought, like so many years later, it was really satisfying for me, even though it was hard doing it pregnant and all the things.
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But like, it felt like things had come full circle and I had figured out a way to have
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that too.
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How are you guys structuring your day with all the stuff you have going on?
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Do you have like structure a routine around it or is it just kind of like... We are like, what do you always, Eric always calls it like the accidental empire.
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We are not organized people.
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We are a disaster.
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I think that s what s endearing about you guys.
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We never were like,
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Ooh, like let s be this sister duo and let s have all these things and let s be these people.
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Like we were late to join Instagram.
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We were not like this was not a plan at all.
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None of it.
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I didn t even want a clothing company.
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I don t know.
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It s hard.
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It s like you re saying about 30 percent of everything and being a mom and all that.
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It is it is hard.
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It s it s really tricky.
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I mean, I ve been handling most everything while she s been on set 15 hours a day.
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It s true.
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And really the answer to how we do everything is because of Montana.
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Montana is like, keeps us on track.
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I get it.
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I have to have someone to keep me on track.
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He s scared back there for whatever she said to him.
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Is it she or he?
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She.
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Now we re not organized.
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Check your phone, Michael.
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Well, something s working.
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So tell us about all the things you re doing.
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Well, we are really proud of Favorite Daughter.
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Favorite Daughter is doing really well, and it s really exciting for us.
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And it is something that we are very connected to.
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It s not like a put your name on something and walk away.
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We are like in every fitting.
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We really care about it.
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And women have an emotional connection to the clothes in a way that we feel really proud of.
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And we run in fashion circles with girls who wear
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stuff that we re not willing to spend money on, you know?
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We would never walk into, like, Dior and buy something.
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Like, we don t dress like that.
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So it really, I think you see a lot of celebrity influencer brands that don t necessarily work.
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And I think it s because they re not wearing the clothes.
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Right.
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So why why do we want to buy this from you if you re wearing, you know, Louis Vuitton all day long?
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But this is how Aaron and I dress.
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We created a brand for girls like us who want to feel chic, who want to feel put together, who don t want to stand out like looking like shit when you re at these fancy events.
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But who s like who fits in?
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And is it going to spend eight and is it going to spend, you know, and where can everyone shop it?
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favoritedaughter.com.
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Yeah, go to favoritedaughter.com or we re in a lot of boutiques.
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We re also in Nordstrom.
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Nordstrom, Shopbop, Revolve, Moda.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Selfridges in London.
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You can only say one word each.
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Who s the favorite daughter?
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Like name the person?
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No.
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Which one of you is the favorite daughter?
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Me.
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I think maybe I m my dad s.
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That s funny.
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No, I m serious.
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I m actually serious.
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I was his first call when he had a surgery.
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That does say a lot.
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That does say a lot.
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But you might be mom s.
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Yeah, I think it s more that he likes to chase Sarah.
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Sarah doesn t call him back and he appreciates the chase.
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Oh yeah, aloof.
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You know what, I ll say this.
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I think it s different at all times.
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Well, because the name really came out of the joke where, and I think everybody s parents do this, you know, like our dad would always say to each of us when we were alone with him that we were his favorite.
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Oh.
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And then, you know, he s like, wait, he told you that?
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That s a good tip.
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And so we always believed that we were all the favorite.
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It s kind of like succession vibes.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Anyways, we have a really complicated life.
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You can listen to the World s First podcast where you can hear all of this.
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If you, if you hate us, then don t listen.
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But if you are interested in learning more, it s all there.
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Where can people find you on Instagram?
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Yes, it s just our names.
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Aaron Foster, Sarah Foster.
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Can we give away like a set to someone to follow Favorite Daughter on Instagram?
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Yes, please.
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Go follow at Favorite Daughter on Instagram and tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest post at Lauren Bostic and what does one person get to win?
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They can choose the outfit themselves.
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Ooh, they can just go on and choose an outfit.
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Pick an outfit.
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You get tops and bottoms, whatever.
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Top, blazer.
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I mean, get creative.
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If you re smart, you re gonna go, oh, I need a tank top with a button down and a blazer and a belt and a pair of pants.
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I mean, if you re smart.
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I love it.
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You guys are great.
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Please come back on so I can get the rest of the juice on beauty, health, diet and wellness.
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Thanks for having me.
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We didn t even talk about that.
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I know.
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Well, Montana threw you out.
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Sorry, Montana.
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Thank you for having us.
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We have like four bottles of sunscreen left in the company.
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We are sold out.
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All Skinny Confidential sunscreen is sold out for a while, but we have four bottles left.
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So I m gonna give away two of those bottles.
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All you have to do is go to my latest Instagram, at laurenbostick, and tell us who you wanna hear next on the show.
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We love your feedback and we always take notes on who you guys are wanting to hear.
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Go to at laurenbostick and tell us your dream guest.
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and I will send two of you, literally, the last bottles of the caffeinated sunscreen.
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Make sure you join the list at shopscanada.com.
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SkinnyConfidential.com and you ll be the first to know when we re back in stock.
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That s ShopSkinnyConfidential.com