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Marcy Klein intro, Dana.
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Marcy Klein, just for everyone who s about to hear this podcast.
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Marcy Klein was a very important figure at SNL for many decades as a producer, kind of Lauren s right hand woman.
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and was talent management and guest management.
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And she has some amazing stories.
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She s really funny and just fun to hang out with and fun to have dinner with.
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Yeah.
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You know, we, I think we used her.
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She asked about it.
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She said, if you guys want to talk to me, because I hear my name, we, we throw it in casually.
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Like Norm was back there.
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Marcy brought her out, you know, Marcy brought us in.
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Yeah.
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She brings you to see the host when they need the host.
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If the host is bored, she walks in.
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Spade, Sharon Stone s in there.
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Go, go, go, say something.
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All right, all right.
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And then you go in there and she doesn t want to talk to you.
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And she ll tell some stories about that inside baseball.
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She won t mention the name, but it s like five minutes before the air show and goes into the dressing room and the person s like, I just can t go on tonight.
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There s no acting.
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And she has to figure out the psychological jiu-jitsu to get this person ready to do 90 minutes of live stand-up.
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Yeah, so she had a lot of funny stories.
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It s a lot of inside how people got on auditions, how they pick.
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Very interesting.
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She was there my whole run.
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I think your whole run too.
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Oh yeah, she was, I mean, I knew her, which we talk about when I did Brown University as a stand-up and she was in the front row and something funny happens.
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Oh, that s right.
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And we talked about that.
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So I knew her from that and all of a sudden she s at the show and she has a very famous dad.
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I just didn t have any idea.
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And she s running the talent department and she was sort of a scout also.
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She had a lot of different, she would look at the old VHS tapes.
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And she would just hang out with us, all the cast members.
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She was our mascot.
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Actually, Will told me I used to go, let s go down to Wally and Joseph s when he was, we had our overlap.
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Wally and Joseph s.
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That s a good place we used to all go.
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Okay, here she is, Marcy Klein.
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Enjoy Marcy Klein.
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There was an amazing guy that he brought when he hosted that was a, like, guy that, like, I can t explain who he was, but I was like, David, that guy s amazing.
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He was like a chiropractor.
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Do you know who he was?
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When you hosted, David, did you bring a chiropractor to the show?
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Oh, maybe I brought.
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What a movie star traveling with a team.
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It didn t help.
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By the way, Marcy, do you remember?
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Hi, Marcy.
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Hi, David.
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Do you remember when I got sick when I hosted?
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I don t know if Dana remembers this.
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I will refresh your memory.
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What are we talking, the early noughts or past 2.10, the middle noughts?
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I think I hosted, maybe it was the second time, whatever.
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I m gonna try a digital host.
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I only did two.
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Whoops, I did three.
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Because you guys all tried to blackball me.
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No, I m kidding.
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I only did two, but they were fucking terrifying.
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And it s so much harder because when I was on, I didn t have, I was never in like a ton of sketches like Dana.
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So when I m on- Well, Phil was in a lot of sketches.
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Hosting is a motherfucker.
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Oh, it s so brutal.
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That s 13 sketches, the cold opening and some Signorelli shit.
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Did Marcy hold your hand that week?
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Were you around or were you working on 30 Rock at that point?
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I feel like when David, maybe when you hosted, I was like, oh, I can take the week off.
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There s nothing better than ex-former cast members that come back.
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Yeah, you knew this.
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See you at the party.
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Yeah, you re like, you know the drill, you know, I know a read-through, I know when it s going to be hard.
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But I m sure we did spend time together that first, because I remember you hosting and thinking that was a big deal.
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I think what happened was... You were stressed out.
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Dana, when he hosted, was not stressed out.
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Well, in the 90s, I was.
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When I came back in 2010, I was too... You know, you re living up to the past and you can t.
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Where s the Pepper Boys sketch?
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You know, it s like, you know what I mean?
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It s like you put a little pressure on yourself, but David s always calm and cool.
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Didn t you do a character, what was the character that, the guy who did the dance with Will Ferrell?
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Sorry, it was Chris Kattan.
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He had that little funny- Oh, I did Mango and Kiwi.
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Mango!
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And you wore shorts, and I go, God, that guy has really muscular legs, and that s been your legacy.
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I should never not wear shorts, because it was a, that was a big hit.
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It was unbelievable.
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Oh, the letters that came in.
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Here s what happened, though.
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Dana, I do dress, and I m sure it was Marcy who was there, because when I retell this, I say it was Marcy.
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For people that don t know, Marcy, she ran the talent there, producer, for years and years and years.
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She was, for probably at least 20 years, she was going into a room with a scared movie star or athlete who said, I just can t go on tonight.
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It s like 11.20, and Marcy s job was to get them out of that room,
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So they go out for the monologues.
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Anyway, we ll get back to that.
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Marcy would go, listen, you quit and we fire you.
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And they re like, wait, what?
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They re going to take my children away.
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Now get your ass out there.
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I m doing one of my hilarious bits, but I m in so many things and Spade s very fragile, like powder.
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So is Carvey.
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What about you, Klein?
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I m doing like a nine hour dress Dana and we re about almost we re probably to the last two sketches and it s like 10 50.
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I was either it was food or it was stress or I wasn t feeling good and I was sick and I m like and I m just sitting in a sketch and you know right when right when the sketch is over they go okay run over here you know you got 30 seconds and I just sat there in the sketch and I think it was Marcy Cameron Spade let s go and I go
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And all the customers are waiting.
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And then I just laid down in front of the sketch.
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And they go, what the fuck s going on?
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And Marcy s like, hold, hold, tell them to hold.
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And so they bring me in the dressing room.
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Hold, was this a rehearsal or the air show?
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It was a dress, which is still a full audience.
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No, it s embarrassing.
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Hold, dress.
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Oh, I go in the bathroom and I m laying there and it s coming out both ends.
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I m laying on the floor.
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I m like, do I have food poisoning from Huxleys or what?
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Well, because I always tell the host never eat.
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They re like, I ll have sushi.
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I was like, you don t have sushi before the fucking live show.
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I ll have the scariest thing to eat possible.
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Nothing for me, just these Vietnamese egg rolls will do.
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And you re like, oh, I wouldn t eat that before.
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So I am laying on the floor, Dana, freaking out.
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And Marcy comes over.
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And Marcie s at the door and I hear Lauren, what s happening?
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And she goes, Spade s just doing... No, Lauren came up and asked her.
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And I just hear on the other side of the door, I m laying face down in my bathroom going, like I don t even want to... And why didn t you get asked to go back for a third time, Host?
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No, you know what?
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And I didn t sue them.
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No, but what happened is I was just either overstressed or didn t eat and it was too much presh.
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And then after I sort of got everything out of my system, I could feel myself lightening up going, okay, I feel better.
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And then I think Marcy and Lauren, this sounds like a lot, but I think they were saying, what do we do?
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Because we have to tell NBC if we re going to run a rerun tonight.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Like you might not be able to make it.
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So the nurse who is still.
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Oh, yes.
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Yes.
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Teresa.
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Yeah.
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I just ran into her.
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I m at NBC.
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Oh, is she around to Teresa?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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She.
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I saw her last time I did.
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Fallon text her to come up to discuss it.
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Well, we can talk about when I separated my shoulder.
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But let s go back to him.
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Did you rally Mike Myers?
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You know, have you guys had Mike?
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Mike.
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was violently ill.
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Do you remember?
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Yes.
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There was a show where he was truly.
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Yes.
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Really violently throwing up like behind the set right before he came out.
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Oh, yeah.
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I thought it was Philip and he pooped in the bathtub.
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He posted and he was sick, too.
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David, are you trying to be like my I m I m trying to be exact.
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I m stealing his story.
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You re sicker than Mike Myers.
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This is going to trend by the way.
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Marcy, I m like laying there in like a UPS outfit because I m in whatever sketch, you know.
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So then I get my act together.
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A lot of people don t feel great.
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Sure.
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I should be a seasoned vet, though.
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I should be the last one, of course, that you need to worry about.
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Hoson s a marathon.
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Used to pass out at the read through a lot.
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You know, I mean, come on.
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I didn t like it.
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I d have spaghetti brought into the read through it at the break.
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And then I just said, go ahead, Tom Hanks.
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You just reminded me that I used to order the food for read through.
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That was another one of my jobs.
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Remember, I used to like I was was I got the cars for the cast.
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Oh, you were a Friday night.
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You had like five jobs.
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It seemed like you were kind of I used to think you were just like everywhere.
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You were holding the hand.
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You were hanging out with us.
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I hung out with your moms.
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Remember the Mother s Day episode?
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I took them out.
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That was a fun week.
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Took my mom to Chippendales.
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I just saw Rose Rock.
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Rose Rock.
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Rose Rock.
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I just saw Rose at Radio City.
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Oh, you saw Chris?
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Yeah, and Chris and I just went on Sunday to see Tar.
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Have you seen Tar?
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Tar?
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Tar?
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Spain, you wouldn t get it.
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Is it a movie, a play?
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It s with Cate Blanchett, my celebrity crush.
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Oh, it s a great, it s a play that s brilliant, right?
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No, no, it s a movie.
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A movie?
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It s a masterpiece.
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Is it on live streaming?
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Could I watch it right now on the corner of my laptop?
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It probably will be.
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I mean, it s like an almost three hour movie.
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I see it.
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I m going to have the sound off, but I m just going to let it run there.
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Has she hosted?
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Wait one second, I keep hearing a ding and I think it s coming from my computer and I m trying to, do you guys hear that?
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Stop notifications.
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It might be your emails or something.
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We re not hearing it, I had that, you go into notifications.
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No I guess it s, I mean is it gonna annoy you?
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Well just pretend you re baking a cake.
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I haven t heard it.
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Okay if you guys haven t heard it then maybe it s only on my end.
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Yeah, it s fine.
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We have a very low budget podcast.
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Our technical resume, we barely make it.
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I don t even know if I m recording.
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Yes, I am.
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Dana, I ll just tell you that the end of the story is I dragged myself back up.
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I finished the UPS sketch.
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Those people have been there for 25 minutes.
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I do it, I give it absolutely nothing.
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The poor writers are like, well, that one s not gonna make it.
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And then I do one more sketch, skate through, and then we get ready for air and everything was fine after that, but I swear it was touch and go.
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And I remember Marcy, Marcy, you were there from the very, very beginning for me for sure, I think, right?
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Yes, I remember when Dana brought you in and you sat on the couch outside of the talent department waiting to meet with Lorne.
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on 17 in front of the microwave oven, which is where my desk used to be.
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Because I knew David before SNL and in the club.
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So I brought him in and he actually passed out the same way with the UPS story.
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He just went down.
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I go, hold on, just Marcy.
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Tell Lauren, can we get 10?
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And, you know, Marcy s a champ.
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Always cool under pressure.
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But yeah, you have an amazing.
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That was like on a Friday night.
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Yeah.
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No, I who was I talking to?
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Marcy goes, Lorne will be with you in three to seven hours.
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Just relax.
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I m like, what s that?
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Lorne will be with you next Thursday.
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You have to wait here.
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The year that you were meeting him on 17, it must ve been like a Tuesday night.
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Cause there s, I would have not been, it was up on 17.
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David, do you remember this?
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I don t remember meeting Lorne outside of 17.
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I would always- I just remember thinking, Dana is here with some guy I ve never met.
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And I was trying to, you appeared and then you, I don t remember how you got on the show, but I know it was, I feel like- Well, Dana and Dennis helped.
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And then I had the audition.
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Were you at the audition for me?
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That s a good question.
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Well, I was at the- That s a great question.
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Chris Rock and Farley came later.
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Did they come later or before?
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They came before you.
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No, Rob and I got the last four episodes of a year.
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So we finished a season.
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That s right.
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When we came back, they picked us up as writer performers and then Rock and Farley were joined.
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So they were the first read through.
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That s right.
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That s right.
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I remember that.
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Yeah.
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They were full feature and we were, I think, writer features.
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And then Sandler came about two, three months after that.
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and there was the bad boys arrived.
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It was like they were leaving, right?
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Wasn t that the whole thing?
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I started in 89.
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I remember.
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Can I tell the story when I went to Brown University?
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I know, I know.
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That was the funniest best story ever.
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Tell it.
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I was playing in the college, you know, and I was doing my act and
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And Marcy sat up front.
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She had this incredibly crazy hair, like just gigantic thick hair.
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I don t know if you were laughing very hard or talking to me or something.
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I was like, you know, everyone was obsessed with Dana and no one could believe you were there.
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And I was like front and center.
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And I felt like we had eye contact.
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And my hair must have been because my hair was so big.
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Yeah.
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Is that.
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And I use the old comedian trick of calling you Big Hair Woman.
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And then you call it back.
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What do you say, Big Hair Woman?
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So you became the co-star of that set.
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And then I don t know if it was like six months later or whatever.
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All of a sudden, I see you walking around 8H.
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It s like Big Hair Woman s here.
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And I was like, wait, do you remember that?
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And he said he remembered.
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And of course, I don t really know.
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At the time, I was like, wow, he really remembered that.
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Oh, yeah.
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But obviously, that was just shtick.
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And
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that you didn t remember me.
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Oh, I did remember that.
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Oh, yeah.
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I didn t do that many colleges.
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And I remember you did have big hair.
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There was a woman with giant hair and I called her Big Hair Woman.
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I don t know.
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I did other things with the audience like, you know, Orange Coat Man.
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Spade does it, too.
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Yeah.
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I did Shorts Guy the other night.
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This guy Shorts Guy.
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And you called him Shorts Guy.
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What do you think?
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Yeah.
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So you were Big Hair Woman.
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So I did remember it.
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And you were front and center.
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You re kind of almost in the light.
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So I remember what you look like.
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And then you did tease it up.
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It had a little Bon Jovi-ness to it.
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You didn t have to tease it up.
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It was just big.
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I probably did tease it up back then.
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It was just a lot of hair.
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It s a university thing.
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We re all over the place, but that s sort of how we are.
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Yeah, Miss Miller called me hair too.
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That was like my name for a while.
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Hey, hair, come over here, okay?
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Can we get some orange sun kiss kind of deal down here if you don t mind?
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Hey, Spudly, wouldn t kill you to write some update jokes.
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Slide them under my desk.
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We love Dennis.
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No, slide him under my door.
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Let s for a second, whatever, I ll do some housekeeping.
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For people who are listening, this is Marcy Klein.
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She is an Emmy Award winner.
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I think Alec Baldwin would call you the greatest producer in the history of broadcast television.
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She produced 30 Rock.
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And then she was ubiquitous.
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She was everywhere on Saturday Night Live for like 20 years.
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And she did 25 years and she did every kind of job.
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And I remember as just just doing a lot of things.
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She wasn t like a handyman, but she was.
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Well, she did fix my sink.
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Anyway, she had a toolkit.
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She did drywall my office.
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Yeah, I called her toolkit.
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And everything except be a cast member.
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Yeah, but I ve been in.
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OK, I ll do I ll cut to it like a Barbara Walters.
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Who is the craziest host?
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What did Lauren say when you asked?
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We asked him craziest host, David.
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Um, no, because, uh, he, I don t think he would ever say, I always get hurt.
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There were, there were some, I wouldn t use the word crazy, but some were more heavily maintenance, you know, kind of thing.
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But everyone asked me and I, I just do Steven Seagal cause I have a Steven Seagal bit.
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You know, but I don t say I liked Steven Seagal, actually.
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Me, too.
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Right.
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That was a crazy week.
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I think that was a bizarre week because Nora left the show.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or no, no.
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She she had left the show because of Dice Clay.
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Sorry.
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She left Dice Clay week.
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David, did you boycott the Steven Seagal show?
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I boycotted mostly because of his ponytail.
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But what was that week like for you, Marcy?
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Were you in chat?
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I just remember that he was weird about standing in the set.
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Do you remember this?
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When he was doing the sketch, he wanted to be outside of the set.
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Yeah.
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Jesus.
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Liz Welch.
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Liz, I remember.
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Yeah.
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I just was texting with Liz.
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She s so funny.
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She s so great.
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Steven, you can t stand there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Steven, sweetie.
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You know, we need to you know, like we were trying to sort of deal with him.
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I mean, looking back, like he, he just, I don t want to say anything more, but he, it was a, it was a, a week that was one of my first weeks where I thought like, oh, not every week is the same and it s different and you have to deal with them.
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He, but in the end it just was, was it like, I feel like Jim Downey was, that was a difficult week for Jim.
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Oof.
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As a head writer.
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Anyone that had to get right face to face with him and deal, it s always tough when the host is A, probably nervous, which is understandable, and B, didn t want to be.
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I just remember Kung Fu fighting, like he didn t want to goof around.
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We did the Hans and Franz thing where we made fun of him in the re-thrill.
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Arnold could beat you up, you know, your buttocks are like marshmallows.
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And he just sat there and listened to it.
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And then on the rehearsal stage, didn t say anything for two days.
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On Thursday, we re walking through it.
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And then he goes way over.
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He leaves where we are at the center of 8H and moves like 100 feet away.
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He s just standing.
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And Kevin or maybe Marcy said, can you go talk to him?
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And I went over there and he didn t even look at me.
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And he said, I just wish Arnold was here so I could kick his fucking ass.
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So for two days he was stewing and then we had to rewrite the thing.
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You re stronger than Arnold.
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And then I ran into Schwarzenegger in Santa Monica six months later.
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I said, Seagal says he wants to kick your ass.
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And he s with all his giant Austrian guys, a foot long cigar.
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He leans back and goes, is that the fact?
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So that s that was a he was eccentric
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but I just liked his stories.
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It was all, he was talking about Russia and martial arts and conspiracy theories.
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I found him fascinating, so.
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Yeah, yeah, no, he was.
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That just reminded me of Sylvester Stallone, who s so nice.
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And I had to go to the set.
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David, were you with me?
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I wasn t there.
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I was there when he hosted.
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I think it was Adam McKay.
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Maybe I m, were you there when Adam McKay was there or that was after you left?
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I think he might have been.
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I should look.
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I need a sheet.
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I was not.
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He might have been Will Ferrell s first year.
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I would have loved to have been there when he was hosting, but I was gone.
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It was it was like I had to do like that.
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You know, you watch it in the movies of, you know, like
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talent people that try and sign, you know, like I had to go to the movie set and meet with him.
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And I brought Adam McKay and I feel like I might maybe I brought welfare.
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I can t.
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We need Ayala here.
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Right.
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But you remember going to the set to kind of walk him through what SNL would be like to convince him?
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Yes.
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It was like I had to sort of, you know,
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host comes in and the first person they meet in, when I first started, when, when, when you were there, when you, when, when I came, when you were already there, I would go to my first host was Dolly Parton.
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And I had to pick her up at the airport.
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Like she got, wow.
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Oh, you know, I I m airport pickups.
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I love it.
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Yeah.
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And that was for cell phones.
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They couldn t send a car.
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You had to drive to the.
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No, no, no.
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I was in the car.
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Yeah, Max.
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I would.
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It was just a lot of like waiting around.
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And and then eventually I you know, so when the host comes in, I have to sort of explain everything that s going to happen.
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Yeah.
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Lauren sort of does that.
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He shortens that.
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Mm hmm.
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Go in and it s before the Monday meeting.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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They meet first.
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And so with Sylvester Stallone, it was the first time where I think I don t know if Fred Spector was his agents, whoever whoever his agent was said, no, you have to go get convinced slide to do the show.
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It s old school.
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He was the only one that was not just showing up because he was booked.
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So he was shooting a movie here, Ray Liotta.
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I remember getting in trouble because I was Ray Liotta was like, she s in my fucking eye line.
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Like I was like, wow.
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Yeah, it was like that.
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And then eventually Ray Liotta hosted.
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But anyway, those guys were all sort of similar.
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Well, maybe that s old school, like, come talk me into it, come get me, you know, I need coaxing.
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Stallone is the nicest dude anyway.
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He s the nicest, and he wrote everyone thank you notes, and he was so nice.
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I didn t know that.
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Yeah, he s a total, you know, down to earth guy.
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Still can, not too late.
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Hey.
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Dear Liz.
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Dear Audrey.
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Audrey Peart was there, Ken Amon, Jim Henry.
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Jim Henry sat me down to explain why I m making so little money.
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Jim Henry.
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Oh, he was the business affairs guy.
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Do you guys remember Andrew Brewer?
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Yeah, we talked about him.
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He emailed us a letter, didn t he?
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He emailed us a question.
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Yeah.
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Cause he says he s at a cafe in Barcelona or something.
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Yeah.
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He s in Barcelona.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we, all those old.
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It was one time, Marcy, when I said pussy on the air with Dennis at Update and Andrew Brewer, he said, you got to mumble it.
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And I walk off stage, he goes, what are you doing to me?
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He meets me right, right when I step off of Update.
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Spade, what are you doing?
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You re going to get me fired.
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We re all going down.
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That s like when who smoked pot.
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Who was the band that they were smoking pot on stage?
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I m gonna guess Black Crowes.
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Stone Temple Pilots.
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Do you remember Marcy, I was upstairs and I did a joke where I said, Stone Temple Pilots, I liked them the first time I saw them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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When they were called Pearl Jam.
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I know.
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And then when they hosted, I remember that.
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They said they wanna kick my ass and then Marcy had to go down and they, I always just picture you with a cigarette going, all right, listen, I m gonna go talk to him.
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All right, but do not come downstairs.
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Don t come down to eight, stay on 17 until we figure this out.
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God, how many fires did you put out?
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I mean, my God.
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That s what Loren always said.
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He s like, Marcy puts out fire.
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Anyway, putting out fires was always, I think that was something I m proud of, you know, that I did that.
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That s important.
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That s a scary thing when someone s melting down or being a problem.
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You re walking to the door and you do the little knock and you don t know what you re going to find.
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Have you ever had anybody you came in and they got overtly hostile?
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Like, what the fuck are you telling me?
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Yes.
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Was it David?
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No, but a very famous, very famous woman.
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Woman, Glenn Close.
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Um, no, no, she turns to threw a boot at me, one of her shoes at me when I had to tell her something that she didn t want to hear.
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Sharon Osbourne would do that.
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So I go ahead.
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I don t think I ever met Sharon.
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So they threw a boot at you with true anger.
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And did you dodge it?
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I mean, did you like.
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Yeah, I understood her reaction, to be honest.
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You know,
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Gabriel Byrne, he hosted, were either of you there?
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I was there for that one.
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He came up to me.
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I loved him.
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And at the next week, he was like, he came back like the next Saturday and he grabbed me and he s like,
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So you do this every week, you know, like it, because you know what it s like when you come in there, it s machine and everything just, you know, it s Monday, Tuesday, whatever.
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Working chaos.
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Yeah.
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We do dinner and then we did in the band and then the promos and then the thing and everything.
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You go in the room, we eat, you know, the food on Friday, we hang out, everyone, you know, so.
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I guess that s why I believe SNL is still on, you know, because there s nothing else like it and you as a host and you come on, you re treated, no one in, maybe if you re shooting a movie, that s, Dana, you guys would be able to know.
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I mean, isn t, don t you think this is like, there s nothing else like this where you re like running your own show-ish?
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No, there s nothing like Saturday Night Live, nothing.
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That s why it s the seminal experience for all of us.
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And we re talking to Lorne about that, that because a lot of times you re getting movie stars or actors or non-comedians having to suddenly come in and host a comedy sketch show, there s a reality show aspect to it.
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So even if Saturday Night Live has a dud of a show, I think it s almost more entertaining than when it kills to see how people react and everything, so.
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The same amount of work goes into the ones that bomb.
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That s like movies too.
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Well, I remember Mike Myers being really upset and I get it that we booked Nancy Kerrigan
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Oh, like stunt casting.
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Because I hit the leg of the woman.
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It was the whole project.
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And that was, you re talking about sports people that come on.
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Yeah.
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There s that whole group of people.
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That happened before I was there.
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You weren t there for Nancy Kerrigan?
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No, I was there.
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That was my idea.
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I booked Nancy Kerrigan.
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And Mike thought it was stunt casting, kind of?
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Well, he was right.
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Yeah, I heard some grumblings.
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But I was like, well, how come George Steinbrenner hosted?
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How come Nancy Kerrigan can t host?
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I don t understand.
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What s the difference?
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That s a bigger stunt.
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That s a New York stunt, specific.
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So maybe that was New York specific, which SNL was very New York specific.
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I remember when Nancy Kerrigan was fucking huge and I was kind of bummed because it wasn t a great show.
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It was like dice.
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We got a big number and we just wasn t quite the show we wanted to show everyone.
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It s still amazing.
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She showed up and she s so nice.
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And she that was a very like I was like, wow, I can t believe she s coming here and doing that.
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Well, her skate scene with Farley, where she was throwing her up in the air and skating with her, and Phil and I were- Well, that was, for anything with Farley- That was a really funny sketch.
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That was really memorable.
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Oh my God, that was so funny.
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I was there on that shoot.
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I went on that shoot.
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Was that a Rockefeller Center?
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Yeah.
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It was a Rockefeller Center, but then it was also at like, you know, Sky Rink.
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There were two.
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I was.
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Oh, my God.
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And I was so cool.
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I was like, can you do a triple act?
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She was doing things for me.
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Just like a little puppet.
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Can you do the thing where you spin around?
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Well, it s magic when they do it.
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It s crazy how they ll spin those giant, heavy skates around, whirling, and then land it.
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But Chris could actually skate enough, too, because he grew up in Wisconsin, right?
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That s the funniest surprise of the sketch, is that he was actually good, and he was wearing a goofy outfit, and then, of course, he s falling, and then he s screaming, and then throws her in the air.
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Wait a minute, Chris is falling
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and screaming, and it s hilarious.
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Was that before or after the Chippendales?
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Oh, I think it must have been after because Chippendales was early on.
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I think Downey said it might have been his fourth or fifth show.
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Yeah, that was great.
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Another monster.
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Did you hear any blowback at Chippendales about he didn t want to do it?
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I didn t hear that.
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Yeah, there s a big controversy.
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Was Chris being exploited or just being funny?
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And some feel one way, some feel another.
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I mean, I remember that he I don t feel like he felt that way.
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I do.
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I don t want to get that vibe either.
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I thought he knew exactly.
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I mean, he would take off his all his clothes to walk into the rewrite.
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He s always so it s like, you know, right.
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But it was always like it was never in if I can say it was never inappropriate.
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It was expected.
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It was yeah, it was not you know, it didn t feel it wasn t threat.
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I wasn t I ve never felt threatened by Chris.
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Well, because he was so he was enjoying it so much and he was so joyous about it and so silly and cackling and he burst into the writer s room naked, kind of his legs crossed and then he d do a pratfall and then he would do that guttural.
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You know, what can you do is laugh, you know, just I just had a memory that I won t
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Say, but I remember walking into his dressing room, like makeup on eight.
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Yeah.
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And he was like, mercy, come in here.
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Like, and I was like, okay, you know, and then he did something.
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He did something.
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You cannot fucking do that.
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Yeah, I know.
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Sometimes he pushes his wiener in between and does like the bush shot.
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He would do that, the silence of the lambs.
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He would do that about twice a week in different parts of the- There weren t that many of us too.
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I mean, it was like- Well, do you remember this Marcy?
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And I know we re jumping around of course, but that we never talk about on here.
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that was such a weird thing that I don t know if you kept doing, but Mohonk.
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We went- I was just gonna bring Mohonk up to you.
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Yeah.
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The retreat, because by the way, I planned, that was one- Was that your idea?
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What Lauren said, we re going on a retreat.
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Lauren and Jim Downey wanted to- It s like a movie.
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Retreat.
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So, and they were like, Marcy, you plan it.
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I planned the party.
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I mean, I was like, okay.
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I was 22.
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Yeah.
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I had just gotten there.
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And Aaron, I said to Aaron,
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Aaron Maroney.
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Aaron Maroney.
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I was like, you need to help me do that.
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What are we doing?
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I m too young to do this.
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Well, just for a second.
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Has there ever been a retreat before or after?
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with the whole cast of SNL.
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I never, that was a one-off.
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Did you have more than one?
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That was the weirdest thing.
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So we all went to Mohonk, all the cast, I guess the writers and Marcy planned it, I guess.
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Yeah, it was the cast and the writers and like we had campfires and then we had like parties and it was like camp college.
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Yeah.
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It was, I actually, Laurie Jo has photos.
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I think it was,
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Yeah, she does.
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Those are crazy.
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We re throwing the football around.
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Yeah, there was the football and then we all, and I was thinking about that last night.
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I was like, God, Mohonk, I think did it twice.
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We never, I only went once, but I remember Lauren, Lauren did us some more demonstrations, the proper way to make us some more.
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Everyone graham crackers, marshmallow and chocolate.
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Marcy, Kevin, are you looking, Kevin?
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You have to see it.
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Okay.
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Smash them together.
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Stories and stuff.
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Lauren telling a ghost story.
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It s that thing of like, you want to open the closet door, but then again, you don t want to open the closet door.
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And then he said, boo, or something like that.
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And you re running.
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But how about this?
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Norm said, I think Norm was new.
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And he said that he got there and it was like a big haunted place.
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Like terrifying.
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And every time people talk about Long Island, I go, is that where we went from anyone who know what Mohonk is?
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And was like, no, I go, is that Mon?
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talk.
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I don t know where we all had haunted experiences.
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I did a movie there and I had a haunted experience.
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You guys have some weird poltergeist.
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Yeah.
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In my room, I absolutely had a poltergeist experience.
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It was terrifying.
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And I remember sleep in my room like we were.
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It was very big and gothic and.
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Yeah.
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Who picked the hotel?
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That was a thing.
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Shelley Duvall.
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It s called Mohawk Mountain House and it was a place that someone had done.
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Got killed at.
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Yeah, that was- Well, Marcy, Norm McDonald goes, he goes, when I got there, Farley goes, because Norm was new, he goes, I have to tell you a secret, which is always a good Farley bit.
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He goes, come here, Norm.
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And he goes, we keep walking.
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And he goes, Norm, follow me down here.
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So they walk farther.
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And he goes, then we go down a hall.
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Then we go down to the basement.
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Then he comes in a room and he closed the door and he goes, what Farley?
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He goes, that s a girl.
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So Chris put all that trouble.
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Yeah, he went all that way for a bit.
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It s Pat.
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Oh, funny.
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It s Pat was an old sketch.
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Were you there when I had to produce sort of like the Mohawk thing, the Mohegan Sun Casino night?
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No, that was a separate trip.
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It was your precious Jimmy Fallon and Tina Fey, maybe a lot of years.
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No, it wasn t that.
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It was it was Dan Aykroyd.
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Not that I was in the 70s, but they brought in a bunch of SNL.
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Oh, former cast members.
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And maybe it was like, will that group I can t remember.
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Hmm.
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Wow.
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Well, there s a whole other kind of version of Mohawk and but in a casino.
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I would rather do that.
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So would Norm, I m sure.
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So also, we can go anywhere we want to go, but you also were part of, like, picking cast members, having a big influence, seeing them audition.
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I was getting to that.
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She discovered comedy superstars Molly Shannon, Tracy Morgan, Fallon, Seth Meyers, Will Ferrell, Armisen Katan, Daryl Hammond, Sarah Silverman,
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It says Kevin James, Kevin James for the Mall Cop.
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It s so funny because Kevin James, they Stephen Colbert, Kevin James were my two.
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I kept saying, why can t we hire them?
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But Jim and Lauren, that didn t, you know, didn t compute.
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Well, there was he was the understudy when I went to Chicago before, like Lauren and everybody would come.
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Mike Shoemaker.
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Have you had Mike Shoemaker on yet?
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No, we d love to.
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Shroomtaker?
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No.
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And I was there, maybe it was with, it was just Mike, I think.
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I remember whoever I was going to see was sick, and Stephen Colbert- It was- The understudy, and I m like, that guy s really funny.
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It was Steve Carell, and then he understudied Steve Carell.
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Yes!
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And Steve was sick.
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Yes!
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Look at that.
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And have you already?
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I call them the two Steve s member when we put them on the show in 96, because luckily SNL passed on them or at least didn t see them properly because they were brilliant at what they were doing.
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And also Bill Hader, Maya Rudolph, you take us, Jason.
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So who?
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Well, I don t know.
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Here s like a I mean, a question that s maybe Barbara Walters.
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Who was the one you saw like they stepped out and you went, holy shit, not only should they be on SNL, they re going to kick ass.
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Yeah, who s a clear star.
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Wow.
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Other than all of them.
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Other than all of them.
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Everyone that obviously ends up on SNL stands out.
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I mean, there isn t anyone, you know, who... There s something there.
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It s a hard vetting process.
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If you find your way into the inner sanctum, you got some kind of chops, because it s difficult.
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Right.
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I mean, Jimmy and Seth both, like, I mean, you know, Seth, I feel like he had the perfect audition.
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He just nailed it.
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And... He had new impressions.
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What does he do?
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He or did he?
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He he had a pretty good year.
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I mean, if you want to do an impression, I think he did Hugh Grant.
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I remember because I remember he does a few.
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I remember that Ayala had seen him in Chicago and she said, you know, he s a great writer.
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That s what.
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And I said, well, he also is.
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He looks like he could be on TV.
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I mean, you know, more so than I could, you know, so it and I know we should put him
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on like Tina Fey was the same thing everyone Scott adds it, I, when I was in Chicago he s like, he s the one who said, Tina Fey is a brilliant genius, you know,
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Scott adds, it is so funny and so great.
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And Scott adds, it auditioned for SNL and didn t end up getting hired, but he kept saying, Tina Fey, Tina Fey.
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And so Tina ended up being hired as a writer first, and then she ended up becoming a cast member.
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So, I mean, it- When I guest hosted the show the first time, Lauren always, you ll do church lady.
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So then I was with, um, it was Tina was assigned to me.
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So we did it on and off all week.
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And when she would write, she would do, well, I m doing, you know, and then when I did it with Zeth later, he did the same thing.
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They both would just do the Churchill to me.
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So, um, Tina, uh, in some ways kind of reminds me of Steve Martin.
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uh yeah just totally and the fountain of writing that she can do she s kind of shy in a sense never ending yeah very sweet they can perform their ass off and the writers they seem they re good friends right because they seem like they re brother and sister or something yeah there are certain people that i email with every time they send me an email i laugh out loud you know yeah those two are super funny um
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You know, they re, Tina s just, she s unbelievably funny.
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What does she come to you and say, I want to do 30 rock cause you re on 30 rock, right?
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You were, you, um, no, the re that the way that came about was they, they called me in.
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Lauren was like, get Marcy.
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You know, I, I came in.
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You re just in a special room waiting for your orders.
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And they re like, uh, they told me the idea and they said, um, you know, we want Alec in this.
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And I was like, ooh, that s going to be interesting to convince him to do a TV show.
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But then I read The Crypt and I think because I was the Alec
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whisper.
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You understood Alec.
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The Alec whisper.
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Alec Baldwin.
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Yeah.
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And I actually like, I actually, when I read the script, I was like, this, this, this is, he s going to win every award.
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I thought it was so perfect for him and so funny.
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And I had, that was my job.
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I was like, I got it.
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So I had to
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um, convince him to do that.
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Also, you know, like a lot of people, what did you do on SNL?
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Well, as you know, the read through there are 50 sketches and then they go down to 13.
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And then I have to convince the host
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to do them.
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Yeah.
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No one else is doing that job.
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That was my job.
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And that s difficult, right?
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Because so much work.
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It s really difficult because you, I feel protective of the host.
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That s my job.
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I also have a job, which is to make sure the show runs and Lauren and Jim and, you know, Tina, Seth,
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you know, whoever s show running it, we get on, I have to look at the big picture, but I also have to make sure that the publicists and the managers and the agents and the host and the musical guests all want to come back because I would always argue, you know, this, we re inviting them and then we basically tell them that they can t.
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We can t sabotage them.
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So it s like, you know, as you know, once you become on Monday, and especially if the host is into it, you know, I get attached.
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I got attached to some more than others.
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So with Alec, you know, he s so smart and so funny and so brilliant.
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And when he I I knew the way to convince him to do that show and it worked.
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And also, I mean, it was just how did you convince him?
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What was your strategy?
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Well, I mean, it s just a pilot.
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It obviously was so well written and perfect.
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And also he he had a lot to do with making that show, even that pilot script.
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I, I went over to his house and I read it with him and I played the Tina part and he played and, and he just kept doing it.
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And, um, you know, he didn t want to do T and the whole thing, I kept that whole season.
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It was negotiating.
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with Jeff Zucker, Mark Graboff, you know, because he would he just only wanted to do two episodes or three episodes.
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But the brilliant thing about Alec was that he really produced it, too.
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I mean, he it was his idea.
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Jane Krakowski, he really fought for her and.
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He is so funny and he s almost, isn t he almost sort of like a cast member on SNL?
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Yeah.
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Can I interject a quick thing?
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And I wonder if you were there, Marcy, but it was really struck me when Alec first hosted because he was full movie star.
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Of course.
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And I remember he was just on the set with us and we re blocking or whatever.
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And I guess I kind of said something effective.
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What do you want to do?
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And he goes, well, I want to do this.
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You think I want to be on a submarine going aye aye captain the rest of my fucking life?
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This guy was a full-blown, ready-to-go, give him a franchise.
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He could be James Bond.
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Full-blown.
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Remember they gave him the fucking Fugitive, which is a huge movie.
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All the Tom Clancy submarine ones he could have done.
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And he fell out of Fugitive to do a play.
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So he is like a cast member.
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He s between a guy who s on the show.
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Well, yeah, he s like a second, his own individual lane of a cast.
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And I want to say like 91.
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I mean, it was like Marcy was my third show and it was it went Corbin Bernson.
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Yeah.
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Maybe Alec.
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And then Dice and then Candice Bergen.
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But Alec was such a star.
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I think you set up a thing for us to see Hunt for Red October.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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And maybe Miami Blues.
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Yeah.
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Well, then did he because he hosted maybe when he hosted again, he hosted.
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So that was his first time hosting and he did Green Hill 8, which I always bring up.
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I thought it was so funny.
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Remember he s kissing everyone like, and he did the mimic and he did.
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Yeah.
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And he was so funny.
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And then he got up for an Emmy for that.
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And, uh, and I remember Dennis Miller in the summer goes, Christ Spudley, there s no fucking chance you re up for an Emmy for absolutely no reason.
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You were there.
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It s your second show.
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Your name s on the credits.
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I go, yeah, but I m up.
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I m going to the Emmys motherfucker.
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So your relationship with him is very, you know, you are the Alec horse whisperer, I mean, and he, person whisperer, and he won Emmys, he made a lot of money, it was a hugely successful show.
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Yeah, that show, the problem with SNL and that show is that once you ve worked on those shows, it s very hard to,
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Work on something else is it just feels like molasses right so slow and i like it s you know it s.
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amazing.
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I mean, 30 Rock, those read-throughs were just, you were crying, laughing.
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And yeah, I mean- And then it was a single camera or mixed with an audience and single camera?
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Single, no audience.
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So it gets a little tedious.
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That was another thing Alec used to say to me, just go.
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I know, single camera is- Just go.
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It s like a movie, single cameras like a movie.
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And it was long, but what was nice, there were so many people from SNL that I was doing both jobs.
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I was going from SNL.
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It was weird because I think there was a point where.
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Everyone in SNL was like, where s Marcy?
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And everyone at 30 Rock said, where s Marcy?
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I was never any.
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What were your titles at that point?
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Then it was executive producer, talent coordinator, executive producer of 30 Rock, which I had to fight for.
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Your book should be called Where s Marcy or Get Get Marcy.
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Get Marcy.
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Give me Marcy now.
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Um, did you Jeff Daniels remember when Jeff Daniels eyebrows, his eyebrow, when he lost his eyebrows, was that was that his second time I was with.
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That was one of the most terrifying heat, the plaster plaster thing.
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And oh yeah, I remember that story.
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Yeah.
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Friday night.
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Yeah.
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Like they had to pour oil and take off his face.
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And I remember the next week,
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It was for the Jay Leno.
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Can we just for a second for the listeners to describe what that is?
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They put you in a head cast and you breathe through a straw in your nose.
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A life mask.
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A life mask.
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You can t hear, see.
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It s all over your mouth.
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You just have one little straw in your nose.
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And it can be very claustrophobic.
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So they somehow it was the wrong mix of glue.
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We found out it wasn t a real plaster or something.
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It was real plaster.
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But what was crazy about it was George Mendez.
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Remember George Mendez, who sort of had the Lorne hair, you know, and he was he was in charge of, you know, the studio.
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And I remember he came up to me and he was like,
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I remember how scary this was.
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This was like midnight Friday night.
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It s tumbleweed.
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We need a casket for Jeff Daniels.
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Come down.
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I go into the makeup room and he s screaming.
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It was I ve never seen it was like I was like he s covered in plastic.
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It s still covered.
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And you can hear him screaming, screaming and kicking and going insane.
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Yeah, that s me.
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But he couldn t speak, you know, and I run it up.
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Aaron was outside of Lauren s office and Jim.
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She s like, well, they re in there.
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I m like, I just burst in.
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Jeff Daniels, like it was his dying literally down there.
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And then I had called Dr. Lamb.
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Dr. Lamb happened to be in the Rainbow Room.
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I feel like this was an episode on 30.
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Unreal should have been 30 Rock.
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And he was like in a bow tie.
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And then he came down.
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Anyway, it was just, you know, it was that.
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I don t know.
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How did they get it off?
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I think I remember they bent it back from his forehead and took an X-Acto and went down and cut off his eyebrows.
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And his eyebrows and all his hair.
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And his eyelashes.
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It ripped off.
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I mean, it was a whole big thing.
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Like what the fuck happened?
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Basically, somebody, why was there any- Was it a sabotage?
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You remember that?
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Yeah.
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Sabotage.
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Because I ve never heard of that happening.
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Like, how did they get the wrong mix, the wrong plaster?
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You know, I don t know.
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I don t know.
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I remember they said Jim Carrey.
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No, all I know is the next week it was Monday and the show, you know, it was like
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Yeah, nobody cared.
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But also, Jeff Daniels, to his credit, went through all that and then did the show the next day.
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He was un-fucking-believable.
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And did great on the show.
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You can see his eyebrows are like painted in.
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Now, they said, because I got a life mask once, and I was telling him, and they said, you know, when I put the holes in, they go, we re going to cover your ears, just plaster over your whole head.
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Yeah.
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They go, cover your ears, cover your mouth, cover your nose.
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And they said, when we cover like the third one, you are going to freak out.
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And I said, why?
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They said, it s just, you can t.
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And I said, no, I m very calm.
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I know.
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They go, we re going to do it very slowly.
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And right when it covered, I go, take it off, take it off.
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Like it s something about being buried alive.
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And they said, they said, if you cover this, don t,
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If you get sick or throw up, you will die because you can t, it has nowhere to go.
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And all I thought is Jeff Daniels, them going, calm down because if he throws up, well, he died.
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I had one that didn t go wrong, but they had to do it twice.
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But the first time, I mean, I ve had many of them, maybe eight or 10 in different situations.
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but they put it on and for some reason they re talking to each other and all you re hearing is... It sounds like they re panicking.
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So then they needed to do another one.
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Guys, just talk calmly to each... Because when I hear... It s like, hand me that, hand me that.
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But yeah, it s a real mind fuck.
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It s a meditative thing to go.
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They re professionals.
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Everything s okay.
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It goes against all your human instincts.
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Wow.
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OK, so you had you had a shoe thrown at your head, almost got blinded.
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Yeah.
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You saw a host almost die in your arms.
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Yeah.
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Other than Alec, who are you the closest with out of all those hosts?
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Do you still stay in touch with any of them?
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I actually became close with Gwyneth Paltrow, Renee Zellweger.
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OK.
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John Ham because he s cool.
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Obviously because you re seeing them at their most real and vulnerable when they re doing quick changes and they re exhausted.
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So then you get to know them and they re looking for you as a life raft like, Marcy, is this normal?
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Am I okay?
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So it s a very bonding.
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And you get them through it.
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I I feel like I I didn t when I became a mom, when I had kids, I was like, oh, this is like when the hosts.
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Yeah.
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I go with my kids like they re hosts, you know, like that s how your parenting style.
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That s perfect.
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So, you know, what to do, you know, with accidents and ER visits.
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And I m like, hmm, actually, they re right.
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You know, like there is that time between drafts and error when the host is not in the
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the meeting.
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And I m like, ooh, that s the host s favorite sketch.
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And I already see that that s going to go.
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And I would fight and say, like, you can t do that.
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You know, I mean, there s stuff that goes on that, you know, behind the scenes.
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You hear the way everyone has talked about.
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You hear how everyone is talked about in the heat of the moment.
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Yes, I definitely feel like I was ever I had on.
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I could go in anywhere.
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There wasn t there wasn t a place that I was not able to go in and know what was going on.
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And so when between dress and air,
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The thing that s always funny is I always would say to the host on Monday at the party, you are going to say this is the best week of your life.
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And at the party, they re always like, you know, we re right.
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You know what I mean?
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Everyone reacts the same way.
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They re full of endorphins, full of like.
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Let s tell the crowd that listens.
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We have a huge crowd.
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We have at least 2,700 listeners.
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I heard this is a popular podcast.
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A few people have mentioned it.
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What are you talking about, Mosse?
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I never heard such a thing.
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When the host does a read-through, which we talk about a lot, but I think the one we don t really talk about is from the read-through,
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That- Everyone breaks.
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All the writers cast.
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Wednesday at eight.
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Yeah, we would all go out to dinner.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Lorne, the host, let s say Lorne Alec, Downey Smigel, maybe Franken, that s when I was there, would all go in to pick the sketches.
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So they put them all on a card.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Now, first it was Lorne, Jim, me.
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Yeah.
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Oh, go ahead.
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Then, like, the host goes in later, there s a,
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pre-host meeting.
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Pre-host.
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We re like, well, how are we going to break into the host that this one... And then some writers and producers are asked in, like, Lauren would like to see you.
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And he s like, could you make that sketch shorter?
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Or could you take out that entrance?
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So he s producing.
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Then what happens?
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It s dangling.
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Yeah.
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And there was always like a host would always say like, what, you know, I thought I was going to do a Wayne s World.
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And I m like, and then...
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Yeah, there was always like that thing of, you know, when Lauren would be someone had to do a Wayne s, you know, you d have to.
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Like, oh, a host would come in and say, I want to be on blank.
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Well, there would be that also be the wait, what on Wednesday?
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It was like, you know, how long Wednesday is.
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Well, we re up to that sketch.
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So that would always be like, I d have to go and be like, oh, he s mentioning that, you know, yeah, didn t happen.
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So that there was a pre meeting before the meeting.
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Oh, yeah, that s right.
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And the host gets a vote when he s in there.
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Obviously, they re in it.
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So,
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They say, what do you think of this?
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What do you think of this?
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We thought this would go up early in the show.
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And then someone would say, like, I wrote that one thing with Tom Hanks, subway surfing.
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It wasn t the greatest, but he liked it.
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So they go, it s all negotiations.
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They re like, we ll give you that.
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We ll give it a chance.
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Now it s already dangling because it might go the wrong way and it s not that strong.
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And when we didn t dress her, so when Tom was on, we joked about it because it was bombing.
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And we knew in the middle of it, we look at each other and it s over, but we gave it everything.
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And then, and then they just move it to the other side of the board.
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When you walk in and you go, it didn t, we re not even going to discuss it.
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Everyone comes in at 11, 10, the show starts in 20 minutes.
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There s 60 of us in Lauren s office.
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So you come in and you look at the board.
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And you look what s off the board, still the card is up there.
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But you had to be the bearer of either good news or bad news all week with a host.
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And did you have a tactic with that?
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You d say, but this is in, you soften them first and this is going great.
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This one probably I think is cut.
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I guess you re skilled at that.
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Um, I think that you I, I, I was so much a part of the week and especially with Jim, you know, I kind of knew where we were headed.
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And also, I feel like I m maybe I m too honest.
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And I would never lie to a host unless
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I just, I don t, I m trying to think of, there must ve been times where I m like, okay, I have to convince them to do both.
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Like Lauren might say to me, go in and find out it s fly on the wall or fly on the window.
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You know, like, which one is it?
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And I would, I think,
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that those were times where I don t know, I think I m just direct and I don t think you lie because there s no it s going to bite you in the ass later because they re going to figure it out.
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And also, well, I think, Marcy, I m going to interject this.
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You were very popular because you were so real.
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And that s why you re fun to have dinner with or talk.
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And you could be blunt and you could be just honest.
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And so I think you
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had a good skill set for that particular part of your resume on Saturday Night Live of dealing with vulnerable people.
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But I still once someone is a host and you see them later out in the real world, there is just a bonding there.
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There is a huge bond.
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I know I always said, like, it s amazing.
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You re just talking about Tom Hanks.
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But even people that
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You know, I mean, they know you both.
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You re famous.
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But I see people, whether it s the Golden Globes or on the street, Marcy, like they recently went to a thing like a screening for Nicole Kidman, the I Love Lucy.
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And she did the.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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And I walked up to her.
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I brought Mary Ellen with me, the photographer at SNL, who s a good friend of mine.
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And I walked up to Nicole.
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I hadn t seen her in a really long time.
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And I said, I said, I don t know if you remember me.
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She s like, of course, I remember you.
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You said that week you got me through that week.
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I mean, I could not believe that she remembered me.
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But I think for hosts that that is fucking intense.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, we know it s fucking intense.
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It s fucking amazing.
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These motherfuckers come in like they re the top of the mark and we got it is amazing to be a part of all of it and know how the whole thing works.
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You know, I ll say that and David will back me up in the very first even before we started our first podcast, just aggregating people to come on this show.
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And you were one of the first that popped in my head like, well, Marcy Klein, because she s she s connected, you know, by by so many situations that
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Everything.
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It s in it from when I was there.
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I mean, who got to work with them?
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Us, then Will Ferrell.
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You got to see the switching from Dana and all those guys to all of us.
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And then Will Ferrell, Tina and Jimmy.
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Well, you guys, it was weird because when
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It was so much smaller and I was so close with all of you.
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And then you guys left and then like Norman, Laurie, Joe and Jim, like everyone was leaving.
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And I m like, oh God.
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And then I m in my thirties.
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Then I was in my forties and I m like every, but then all my friends live in LA, you know, it s, I miss- And there s 25 cast and you re like, I don t even think I ve met anyone, everyone this year.
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So you re as close to like, Lauren has 45 years of,
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being a teacher in school and then his former classmates go and he sees him around campus, you know?
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And so you had your own experience with that, like, oh, now I m in the Will Ferrell era, here s Anna Gasteyer, you know, now it s Bill Hader.
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You met me when I was like doing everything and then I became in charge and that s a whole other
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thing.
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And like we were talking about Farley.
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And I remember when he hosted and I had to call everyone.
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I knew things were bad.
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I mean, you know, I just was like, he could not make it through this.
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And everyone was so excited.
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He was there.
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And I remember Tracy Morgan and Jim Brewer, were they were they
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they, I think they shared an office and everyone was like, it was a Tuesday night and Farley wanted to go out.
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And I called the entire cast into the talent department.
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And I said, you cannot go out with him.
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You, you cannot, I just knew something bad was going to happen.
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And, um,
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there was, I felt more like a mom.
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Like, I don t feel like you, you guys didn t know me in that role.
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You know, I was younger, I feel like, but then I became the mom of everyone.
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Well, you re like one of us.
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We re all around the same age.
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We re all younger, jumping around.
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The interns, you know, I d be like, they can t come to the party.
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I remember getting that little ticket.
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Like you would slip all of us that said where the party was during the show.
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And then I would see people like Dana s table and have to have like someone in my office.
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I m like, find out how many people David has.
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He s going to sit with Spade with Sandler and they can have a plus one each.
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And then all hang out and sit.
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And then, you know, and then it,
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it running a party at one in the morning.
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And I know nothing about running, but then eventually everyone was so nice.
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And that s the thing, like everyone is supportive of each other.
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So no one ever got mad.
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Where s my table?
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You know what I mean?
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There wasn t the party would kind of get up and running like at 2 a.m.
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because the good nights were at 1 a.m.
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We get in the cars, maybe it s during the winter.
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So it s like starting a party at 2 a.m.
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What was the last time you started a party at 2 a.m.
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after 13 hour work day?
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I don t go out after nine.
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That s why I left.
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I couldn t, I never saw my kids.
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I think on Sunday I was completely out.
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Yeah.
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It s just, yeah, it s like jet lag.
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It s like.
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It totally like jet lag.
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Yeah.
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And you re just, and I m still recovering as Jim Downey says.
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Like he s still recovering.
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From those days.
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I m still recovering from the 15th anniversary.
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I m still.
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I remember that one.
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The 15th, what about the 40th, now the 50th?
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Are you going to, you think the 50th, that s gonna happen, right?
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The 50th?
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Seems surreal.
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Why not?
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Mohunk.
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All right, we better wrap it up with her, Dana.
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This went faster than we thought, Marcy.
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Thank you.
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I love you guys, I miss you.
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We could do a 12-parter with Marcy.
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And Jimmy Fallon, there s a,
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There s some thing like some screening of his of.
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Oh, great.
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Adam Sandler remembers me.
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He will, he s on the road right now doing gigs.
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Why do you mean I m not gonna remember you?
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Iraqi Pete.
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Iraqi Pete, Marcy Klein.
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Yeah, this is, well, season three, we re having you back because there s too many stories, but it s so much fun to chat with you.
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She s the glue.
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Look us up when you re in LA.
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We ll go to that crazy restaurant that you put your phone in a satchel and be there for seven hours.
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And this time Faye Dunaway better show up.
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All right, bye guys.
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Hey, what s up flies?
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What s up fleas?
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What s up people that listen?
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We want to hear from you and your dumb questions.
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Questions, ask us anything.
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Anything you want.
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You can email us at flyonthewallatcadence13.com.
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We re gonna do a Q&A question.
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I gotta first say my coat is fuckin  off the hook, if I may be so present with my thing.
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I didn t know Sears still had a boys department.
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I m sorry.
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The coat is, the word bumpin  has been thrown around.
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That was a bit of a NASA vibe over there.
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Fuckin  ridiculously.
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What are you, Apollo 17?
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Cooler than fuck pie, but I don t wanna talk about it.
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I don t wanna over talk about it.
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What color do you call that, taupe?
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You know, that s a great question.
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Yeah, taupe.
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Is it taupe?
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I don t think so.
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I said olive and then I said gray.
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That is an olive-y taupe.
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Yeah.
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And it s got a diametric.
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You can t buy this.
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You can t buy that shape.
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But you can live on the moon with it.
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Yeah.
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That s where I should go.
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It looks very astronaut-y to me.
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Thanks.
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Your new nickname is Buzz Spade.
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Buzz Plowood.
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That s my porn name.
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Buzzed Spade.
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Buzz Spade is more of a buzz.
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Enough about Tito s neat.
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He s got a ratatouille hat on.
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I like that.
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I want to tell you a question.
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Don t tell an accenter an accent.
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That s a good color.
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Alright, let s read a question.
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I m going to read a question.
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Etherington.
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Hi Dana and David, the show is great.
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Can t get enough.
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We always add that part.
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I listened to the entire, hey this is in your handwriting, I listened to the entire Farley tribute twice, that s nice.
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All nine hours.
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It seems like when you get to SNL, you get a wooden desk, a yellow legal pattern, Bernie Brillstein as your manager.
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How is that seemingly everyone on the show ended up with Bernie as their manager?
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Or am I just imagining that he was everyone s manager?
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Maybe you could give a little more insight into how so many cast members ended up working with Bernie.
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Also, Lauren.
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Sharon.
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Lorne s with Bernie.
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So what it was, I think at the beginning, you would know more, Dana, he had a management company.
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Sharon Ether... Simon.
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Oh shit, okay.
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I don t have my big boy glasses on.
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Excuse me.
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Where are you cheaters?
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Excuse me.
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I should never drink before this.
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I m gonna go to Rite Aid.
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Simon Etherington.
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So Bernie... Simon.
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Was... Enough of Simon.
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Fuck that guy.
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Yeah, but that was the guy who wrote us the question.
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I know, I don t care about him anymore.
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I took his question and I came up with it.
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Why are you so mad at Seinfeld?
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I don t know, he s being a dick.
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All of a sudden, all your rage is coming out.
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Uh, Bernie handled Belushi, Aykroyd, Lorne.
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It s so funny to handle both sides of the table.
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Bernie was an old-timey manager.
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He was probably, when I met him, like 41.
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He seemed like he was 70.
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No, when he was 70, he seemed 70.
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He looked like Santa Claus.
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He looked exactly like Santa Claus, literally.
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White hair.
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And he did manage all the original casts.
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He just got in there, and I think Lauren was the first client, and then everyone went with Bernie, and then by the time I came along, Bernie had hired Brad Gray and Mark Gervais.
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to be some of his partners and we had Sandy Warnick in there.
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Brillstein company is a company you ll hear about a lot because so many SNL people, you re right, are connected to it.
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Me, Sandler, Dana, Kevin, Neil and Dennis Miller, Norm, Farley, Lovitz, Schneider for a while.
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Bill Maher.
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Who was that?
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Bill Maher, Ed O Neill.
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A lot of SNL people, a lot of just famous people, but they always had sort of a monopoly on SNL, which is great because they know Lauren so well, they know the negotiations so well.
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It became a farm league ecosystem, one Brad or Bernie would say.
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I think this guy could be good.
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Cause he talked like that.
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And then they d sign you and then now they re gonna, it s beneficial for everybody.
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And Bernie was just a taste of old show business.
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Like I said, he had a big voice and a lot of people do better impressions of him than me.
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Sandler used to call people from our office.
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We d answer fan mail and he d just call as Bernie.
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And talk to someone, some kid as Bernie.
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This is Bernie, Adam s manager.
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And we just answer fan mail when we re bored and just call the number and ask for some kid and then talk to him.
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He was one of those guys, he leaned into me when he first met me and goes, you got a faith for television.
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A face for television, can you do?
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Yeah, I don t know.
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I had a Disney face for a while before life beat the shit out of me.
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Have you ever been described as cherubic?
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That s what I was gonna say.
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Whoa, uh-oh, don t we do a thing, abracadabra?
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I got legally carded by a mentally healthy person to buy a beer at age 53.
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I got carded, honestly, I told you this, Heather.
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A month, like it was, where was it?
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Was it my own show or something?
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I went somewhere and they go, no, it was at Chili s.
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She goes, I gave my credit card.
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No, I ordered a drink.
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Because I have a problem.
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Well, you don t order drinks too much.
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Come on, fans.
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I had to because it was nighttime.
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Okay.
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So she goes, I know who you are and I m a huge fan, but I have to see your ID.
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Why?
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I don t understand.
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So I give it to her and she goes, some quick math.
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Carry the fort.
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Okay.
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Why did we do that?
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She was like, so you weren t in grownups when you were one?
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I ve seen a 90 year old man get carded at a liquor store.
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I don t even care.
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He s like literally, I can t even care.
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We have to.
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It s just the law.
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It s the law.
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Even with the fuzz on the chin, they tag you.
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I go, you okay with this?
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Light a match?
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How did we answer the question?
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I don t know, the question s about Bernie.
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Bernie Brillstein, great guy, everyone, it was an ecosystem of Farm League team, of being with Brillstein.
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He has a book out if you want to read it, and it s very interesting about all that stuff.
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He has his own book out.
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Great guy, Bernie.
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Loved him.
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Thank you for the question.
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Thank you, Simon.
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This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13.
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No joke, folks.
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Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment.
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The show s lead producer is Greg Holtzman, with production and engineering support from Serena Regan and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.