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The Joe Rogan Experience.
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Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night.
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All day.
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Hello, Eleanor.
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What s cracking, kid?
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I m excited to be here.
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Excited to have you.
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How s LA treating you?
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LA s good.
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I mean, I ll be honest.
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I haven t been there a lot.
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After I film my special, I m on the road so much, which is good.
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And then I get to go to Philly.
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In between, I hang out with my mom.
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So in between gigs, I ll just hang out with my moms instead of going back to L.A.
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But I feel like I haven t been.
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I think I was there for five days last week.
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When you do the road all the time, your house sort of just becomes some stop.
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Yeah, but I have no responsibility whatsoever.
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I don t have a plant.
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I have nothing.
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What a free existence you ve carved out for yourself.
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What an asshole.
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So selfish.
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It s funny because people think about it that way.
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You have to have things you re responsible for, otherwise you re a bad person.
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Yeah, I always tell my mom I m leaving her what she would want it to do had she not had 10 children.
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10 children.
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Yeah, good times.
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Isn t that crazy?
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Keep it up, lady.
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10 kids is so bonkers.
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Who does that?
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How about on the ninth one?
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You re like, one more.
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Her worst pregnancy.
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The ninth one?
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The ninth one, longest delivery, my little brother Bobby.
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She said that s how lazy he was.
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He wouldn t come out.
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He s so lazy.
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She said he was hanging on for dear life.
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I m like, why?
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She said, because he s lazy.
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It d be an interesting study to have 10 kids and just to see, like, what makes them come out different.
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Because they re a fucking... This is one thing, like, having children, seeing them from babies, you realize, like, oh, they re different right out of the box.
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Yeah.
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Like, it has zero to do with, like, what you tell them.
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This is what you should do.
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Like, a lot of them is just how they come from the factory.
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Exactly.
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And you always think like, I know this genetic stuff, like there s you inherit stuff genetically, whatever, you know, I m pretending I know what I m saying.
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And epigenetics.
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Yeah, but my Oh, that s good.
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Yeah, I remember that.
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Anyway, I asked my mom to write this thing for me, like what she was going through with each kid, just to see if I can get it because we are all different, like in the craziest way.
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Oh, like in her life.
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Yeah, like what was going on.
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And it is interesting because when it gets to my brother, Charlie, like she was going through stuff with my dad and physically her whole body.
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She was pregnant.
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Her kidneys were failing and they had to literally move him to the side, you know, operate on her kidneys, take it out, whatever, before it like killed the baby.
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It was insane like she tells the story.
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I m like, oh what how right why and then she said they put it back Cleared her out.
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She was good.
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The kidneys didn t affect anything and then they assumed Charlie was gonna be stillborn so she they the nurse came in and she was like real down and the nurse goes, uh Are you nervous?
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You re gonna miss you re gonna lose this child and she s like, is this your first and my mom goes?
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No, this is my sixth and she goes you go right ahead and lose that baby
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Oh my God.
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The nurse said that?
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It s a different time.
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Oh my God.
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Imagine if a nurse said that today.
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She d be executed on the spot.
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Humans were so different before social media.
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Yeah, it was so cool.
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What is that?
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Is it accountability?
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Is it that we re now influenced by so many different people?
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Is it like a lot of it is just more bullshit?
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Like people can t just say what they really think?
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because they re just terrified they re going to get attacked by so many people, so you bullshit more.
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And that lady was telling the truth.
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Yeah, she was telling the truth.
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That s all she did.
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And she was, in a weird way, she was trying to encourage your mother to feel better.
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Like, hey, you ve got six kids.
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You re going to be fine.
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You re good.
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You can lose this one, right?
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She was just being serious.
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By the way, Charlie s in his 50s.
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He s fine.
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He s just amazing.
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They didn t know a lot back then, you know?
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I don t know which one of your brothers I ve met.
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You ve met Jimmy, I know that, and he tortures me, he s like, I want that car.
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Which car?
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He s a car guy, the Bronco.
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Oh, my Bronco, yeah.
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He s obsessed with the Bronco.
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He s like, I ll come there, I ll take it.
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I ll just take it.
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I m like, oh God.
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I remember this one night at the comedy club, they re crazy.
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I don t know if you ll remember this because it was more like I was a nervous wreck.
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Jimmy was visiting.
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He installed computers all over the country.
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So he would come to LA a lot.
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And he d just pop in to the comedy store and we d be like, oh shit, my brother s here.
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So we re hanging out.
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We were all hanging out like in the, what is it called, like the back?
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Where the parking lot is?
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Kind of, but like inside, you know, in the little, so you re sitting on the ledge and Don Barris was saying crazy shit to me, right?
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And in a way, Don does it, we love it, we love it, but I m dying and he s saying like horrible shit.
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But we re crying laughing and then and Jimmy was like just taking it in like the fuck is this Don look at his calves Rethink what you re saying because Jimmy has these Ridiculous calves and he s like Popeye and he was wearing shorts.
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Yeah, of course Jean shorts.
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I m positive.
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He s an idiot the
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But I was like, Don, you re about to get smashed.
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Yeah, he s like, dude, calm down.
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And you re like, Don.
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It just made me laugh so hard.
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Like every time I think of that.
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But Jimmy was in a lot.
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Men who don t know or understand dangerous men are hilarious.
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And Jimmy walks on his knuckles.
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He s got giant hands.
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Everybody always sees his hands and they re like, oh, God.
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But it s also from a different part of the world.
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Right.
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It s basically like picking a fight with a Russian.
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They fight way more often somebody s like Philly Boston There s like there s like a few cities like that parts in New York where you better shut the fuck up, man Just take it in they ll they ll fucking hit you quick a lot quicker than you think like you re not gonna have any room for Talking your way out of this.
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You re gonna get hit.
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It s not gonna help I remember Don s face like what I remember thinking like oh my god, what happens here?
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Your brother s gonna beat the fuck out of poor Don Barris.
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And Don s just saying, you know.
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But that was a thing, though.
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Don would do that to everybody.
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He would go on stage in the later spot, the last spot in the OR.
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And that show was done.
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It was done two hours ago.
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And somehow or another, there s still people in the audience.
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So those people in the audience, they re the strangest of people.
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Like, some of them are just ne er-do-wells, nothing s ever worked out for them.
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But then, finally, at 1.30 a.m.
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in Hollywood, on the Sunset Strip on Tuesday, they found their tribe.
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They found their tribe.
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And it s just them and a few other fucking scragglers and Don Barris.
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And Don Barris is telling you how big his dick is, and he s like...
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And he s put his foot on the table, staring people in the eye.
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He s just doing, he s developed this style to do like kind of anything to get laughter out of people that have seen everything.
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Everything.
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You have to understand for people that are listening how the comedy store works.
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You get there, the show starts, on a regular night, starts at 8 o clock.
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What is it, what is it, potluck?
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What night does it start on potluck?
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Potluck s Monday now.
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It was Sunday and Monday.
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Right.
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For a while.
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It was Sunday, Monday, Tuesday for a while.
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We were dying.
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What time, when does potluck start?
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I think it starts at seven.
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Okay.
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So that might be Don Barris might go on at the end of all the comics who go on after the end of all the open micers.
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So there s, there s, there might be people that are on fucking
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All kinds of shit.
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Methadone, fucking Adderall.
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How many drinks they had.
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Their whole life s a mess.
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They ve been texting their ex through the entire show and she s not texting back.
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These fucking lost, lost people.
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The dregs of society.
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And Don Barris would have them left over.
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Yeah.
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I ve seen people like women walk out on their guys because Don s like, let me spit in your mouth.
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What?
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I m like, you want another rum and coke?
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Like, I m trying to sell drinks.
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It s so crazy.
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He was just trying to, I mean, he essentially developed a style.
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Oh, yeah.
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A king of late night.
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Yeah.
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Well, he put on a show, right?
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Right.
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It wasn t just his stand-up.
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Like, he had a show.
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Yeah.
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Like, he really, he ll play music sometimes.
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Yeah.
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There was a lot going on.
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He was entertaining you, which is interesting.
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It s like he s an entertainer.
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He s truly the freest of entertainers.
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Like, when I go up, I still get nervous.
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I don t know if you get nervous at all.
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Sure.
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You do?
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Yeah, sure.
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Because sometimes I feel like an idiot.
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If you don t care about something, you re gonna get nervous.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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That s what it is.
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And so I panic a little.
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But Don Barris just doesn t... He just walks up like, hey, it s me.
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Like, he just... Maybe it s from years of doing the warm-up as well.
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I think that too.
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I think it s a reps thing.
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Sure.
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It s reps.
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How many reps do you put on stage?
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Like, some of those guys in New York that were hosts, they would get better really quick.
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Yeah.
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Especially at their delivery.
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Because if you re hosting these nights in New York where people are doing seven minutes,
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You re going on stage, you re interacting with the crowd over and over and over again.
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And you find a way to be yourself.
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It s like the inauthentic thing that a person does on stage.
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You feel it while you re doing it, the audience feels it, and they might laugh still, but you know that you re not really... But then when someone figures out how to be just them, for whatever reason, like Sebastian, he had to figure that out.
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Sure, sure.
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It took him a minute.
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But he did.
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And when he figured it out, it was like instantaneous murdering.
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The best.
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It went from a guy trying to figure it out to, oh, I got it.
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Joey.
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Do you remember the early days of Joey?
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Joey Diaz?
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Yes.
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Interesting.
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Would you remember?
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I do.
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Joey used to bomb.
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Joey used to bomb.
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It was crazy.
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It didn t make any sense.
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He was the funniest guy in the parking lot.
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And then he would get tense when he would go on stage and he wouldn t have a good set.
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It just wasn t him.
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Interesting.
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It was like more jokey joke.
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Like he was trying to be a comedian.
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He was trying to be some guy that s on late night television or something.
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Maybe because I saw him in that light, the parking lot light, or he would fuck with me if I was waiting tables, so it would make me laugh.
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So I didn t judge what he did on stage.
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The funniest guy of all time, talking to people.
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Oh yeah.
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You would scream.
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If there s a few of us hanging around and Joey came over, all of a sudden the life of the party was there.
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Everybody had a big smile on their face.
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Joey s here.
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you know and it would be fun but he it took him a while and what it was was like getting his heart broken by deals that didn t happen agents that didn t follow through managers that fucked him up or fucked him over yep
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And then he eventually is like, fuck these people, fuck these people.
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And he just brought that energy on stage.
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Like, he thought it was over.
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He thought, I don t have a career.
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I m probably going back to prison.
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I just got out of prison.
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Like, when I met Joey, he was not out of prison very long.
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No.
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I mean, yeah, when did he come to LA?
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97?
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Somewhere around that, yeah.
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I know I was on news radio because Joey would come visit me on the set and they would be like, who s this fucking criminal that s eating all the shrimp?
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Leave him alone.
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He would go in the VIP, because the VIPs had their own separate green room.
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And they actually could watch the performance from the green room, I think, at one of the sets.
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So anyway, they had really good food, because it was like network executives.
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Of course.
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So they had shrimp cocktail.
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When Hollywood was alive.
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You got Joey Diaz, this fucking savage.
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Joey was built like a football player back then, too.
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Joey wasn t like big belly Joey.
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Joey was like 235, 240 pounds, jacked.
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Big Cuban dude, he was kind of street, kind of sketchy, a little scary.
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You know, like high-energy, 35-year-old Joey.
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And so they were like, who the fuck is this guy?
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That s so funny.
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That s a great image, though.
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It just took—something happened to Joey.
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It was right around the time we got big, too.
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where his belly got big.
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It s just like he just didn t give a fuck about anything anymore.
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And he figured out a way to just be that guy who he was in the parking lot on stage and he did it like that.
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He did it like that.
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Theo Vaughn did it like that.
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Theo Vaughn, I remember that.
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Now I remember his
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I remember his break, for sure.
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In the beginning, it was like, God, this guy s funny, but he s so weird.
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The act is weird.
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He seems awkward, but interesting.
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He was trying to please too many people or something, or trying to be something he wasn t.
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And then once he started being himself,
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Yeah.
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Unbelievable.
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It was just finding that authenticity.
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And that s exactly what we re talking about with these hosts in New York when they do all these sets.
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If you can get a job hosting, I know it doesn t pay anything and you re committed to it all night long.
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If you re a comic, you could definitely make more money on the road.
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Sure.
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But there s something to that in terms of training sessions.
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First of all, you have to start the show, which is death.
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The worst.
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Death.
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I always tell those guys at the mothership, for the first five minutes, you re doing a job.
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Yep.
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A real job.
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A real job.
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For the first five minutes, you re massaging people s feet.
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You re fucking washing hair.
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I m going to think of it that way forever.
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You re fucking polishing people s nails.
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You re doing a job.
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You feel good?
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It s not as simple as you just doing your act.
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You ve got to get the audience hypnotized.
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You ve got to get them hypnotized to laugh.
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When I open for Dice, that s how it is.
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It s a cold, you just go out there.
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Sometimes people are like, are you going to introduce yourself?
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I m like, what kind of assholes?
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Callan was at the Irvine Improv once, and I opened for him, just for fun.
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Just cold open.
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It s hard.
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It was fun.
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It was a good time.
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It was fun.
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But it was like, whoa, we re jumping right into this.
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It s a little easier because they were happy to see me.
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But if it was not that sort of situation, and you re unknown, and you re not the person that people came to see, they re like, all right, what do we got here?
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And if you re a
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chick, oh forget it that is I ve always said this and I think this needs to be recognized like women are limited in The way the audience is willing to perceive them right off the bat just willing willing to you have to break through Boundaries right in order for them to take you even remotely serious like you start off
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If a man starts off at zero, a woman goes on stage, she starts off at negative three.
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Minimum.
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Immediately.
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Immediately.
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If a guy sees a girl go on stage, how many guys, like your brother, if he sees a girl walk on stage, they re like...
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With Dice, when they look at me when I come out, they re like, is this a sacrifice?
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Who s this?
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But now they know me.
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But once you re proven, they re like, oh, OK.
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Cool.
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But it s a harder gig.
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Absolutely.
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It s a harder gig for a woman.
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And then women have these two other boundaries.
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If you talk about sex, then people think you re a slut.
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And they disrespect you, right?
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You can talk about how men suck.
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You can talk about a few things.
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You can t talk about politics.
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You start talking about politics to a bunch of men like shut the fuck up.
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I got opinions too.
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They ll just start yelling at you.
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Bullshit.
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That s fucking Russia collusion in the Steele dossier.
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They ll start yelling at you like facts and things.
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You can t talk politics.
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It goes back to the 50s.
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Like who are you?
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Why are you speaking?
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What is wrong with you?
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If you re a guy, you can do political humor.
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There s not a lot of female political satirists.
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I m trying to think.
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Yeah, yeah, not a lot.
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Think of all the Mort Sauls and the Lenny Bruces.
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He goes back to the 60s.
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How many women would you put in the political satirist category?
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Right.
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Zero.
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I mean, now Roseanne-ish.
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Roseanne.
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But Roseanne was kind of like forced into that.
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They forced her into that.
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True.
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Yeah, I guess.
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I mean, it s not, well, it s political in that we talk about like abortion and stuff like that.
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I shouldn t say she was forced into that because that was one of the issues that they had with her when she was on that show is that she loved Trump.
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Right.
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She got fired for it.
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She got fired for her opinion.
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She got fired because she was ambient up in the middle of the night.
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She made some tweets about the lady from the government that looks like the lady from the Planet of the Apes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And she didn t know that that lady was black.
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She thought that lady was Jewish.
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And she talks about it on stage.
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She s like, I thought that bitch was Jewish.
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And if you look at her, you get it.
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Like, she s very light skinned and she has straight hair.
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And, you know, unfortunately, the joke that she was making, the only reason why she could make that joke is because it kind of works.
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right like you know it s pretty accurate right but it s not she was just an old lady who has mental health issues who s on ambien and a host of other drugs and people wanted to ruin her life for something she didn t even fucking remember doing that s the crazy part they do they dope people up with all
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Shit and then they make you responsible for what you did when you re on that wild shit that seemed so crazy ambience the fucking scariest to me Kevin James made a turkey.
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I think it was a turkey He made a meal and then woke up in the morning saw the plate of food.
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It s like what the fuck He thought someone broke into his house and cooked
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He didn t remember anything.
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I was living with Dice when he was on Ambien.
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It was brutal.
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He would move the car in the middle of the night.
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We thought it got stolen one time and here he parked it in front of somebody s driveway.
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so they towed it but he like moved the fucking car my dude he would he would wake me up is these characters he was
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Listen, it s enough to live with dice.
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I don t need extra characters.
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He would do this black guy.
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I forgot his name.
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He would do this military guy.
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It s always, hey, wake up.
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And I m like, ah, like my father s back.
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What?
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You know, like crazy.
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So funny.
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Oh, yeah.
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He was so funny.
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He would do some crazy shit.
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So I believe Kevin doing that.
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Andrew would eat wild stuff like
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Yeah, people do that.
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Just people that have been in like shootouts with the cops.
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He got off it, thank God.
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Is Kevin off it?
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I hope.
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I do not know.
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Wasn t there someone who like drove to his in-laws house and killed them with a crowbar?
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Oh, Jesus.
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Like something crazy.
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Some guy did something crazy on Ambien.
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That s ambient and anger mixed together.
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The thing is, it s like you could take a person who s not that smart and maybe has a real problem with their in-laws.
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Right, right.
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Maybe the father in him have even gone to blows.
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That shit happens.
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Sure.
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You get a picnic, too many Bud Lights, next thing you know, dudes are duking it out.
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Here s Sleepwalker acquitted of murdering mother-in-law after 15 mile drive.
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Wow.
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What?
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What the fuck, dude?
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Look how we re so ghetto.
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We can t even look through the LA Times.
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They re nickel and diming everybody.
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You have to pay for everything.
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Toronto, a man was acquitted of murdering... Oh, it s Canada.
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It s Canada.
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They live in Narnia up there.
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A man was acquitted of murdering his mother-in-law after saying he was sleepwalking when he drove 15 miles to her house and hit her with an iron bar and repeatedly stabbed her.
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Ontario Supreme Court deliberated nine hours before finding Kenneth Park s nearby Pickering not guilty on Thursday.
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What about the Ambien though?
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More, they try to hit you again.
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Is that what he was drinking, Joko, whatever that is?
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Does it say Ambien or does it say just sleepwalking?
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It just says sleepwalking, right?
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It says because he s in a sleep state.
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My nephew s a sleepwalker.
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But was this guy on Ambien?
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Does it have anything to do with Ambien or is it a different story?
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Well, that s what I typed in and that s what popped up.
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Let me see.
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Yeah, there was something about a guy... That s so crazy, though.
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...who drove... Maybe I fucked the story up.
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It seems like that s pretty similar.
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That s so similar, it seems like I might have fucked the story up.
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You would assume.
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But also, this happened in 1987, so I don t... Was Ambien even around?
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Oh, wow.
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No, this is not that story then.
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It s definitely a more recent story.
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87?
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Yeah, because no, this is a story while I was a grown-ass man living in Los Angeles, if I remember.
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I don t remember what I thought had happened in America.
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No, it might have been Canada.
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Canada is silly.
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They are silly.
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It s like if you let your cousin who s like 17 run the house while you go out of town for a week and then you come back home like what the fuck are you doing?
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That s Canada Local cases involving man who shot at five people tests ambient defense in court.
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That s a recent one, huh?
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That s 2023.
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Oh shit.
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It s it.
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How so what is this guy trying to say?
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I just he said he shot at five people while he was on ambient.
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I remember
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Oh, wow.
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He said, no member of the shooting, two random cars in the middle of the night four years ago.
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He s probably telling the truth.
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And I know Roseanne is telling the truth.
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I know she s telling the truth.
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Yeah.
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She was on Ambien and she was smoking weed.
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And I think, I don t know if she was drinking alcohol, but listen, Roseanne likes to party.
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but also She likes to party drinking and doing yeah, that s a that s a real dangerous combo and look everybody should understand this Because you kind of know but you really need to know And I talked to there s one of the reasons why I had Roseanne on my podcast right after she got in trouble I wanted everybody to know what I know Roseanne got hit by a car and
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Yeah, when she was 15 years old and she spent nine months in a mental health institute when she was a child She couldn t count after that.
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She s straight A s in math After that, she couldn t do math Wow, she she was fucked up
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and that wild impulsiveness led to an amazing career as a stand-up comedian that probably came at least somewhat some part of it came obviously came out of her creativity and her performing and her work ethic and all the good things that are funny she s awesome but that wildness
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is part of that injury.
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And that wildness exists in football players, it exists in former fighters, it exists in... There s a lot of people that are running around out there that have brain injuries.
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And if you get someone a brain injury and then you dope them up with
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Ambien and then marijuana and then who knows what the fuck you re taking ketamine Fox News She s just fucking Tower 7 Tower 7 she s just taking it you have a device that you can tell everybody what you re feeling in that moment that s crazy and you re you know, it s like
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you re trying to get responses out of people.
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See what the people think.
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It s almost like testing an audience for some people.
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If they don t understand how to manage it psychologically, how many comics have we seen just get addicted to being on Twitter all day?
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Get out of there, man.
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You re losing your life in that box.
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It s insane.
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It s insane.
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I don t know how people do it.
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It s so bad for you.
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I m a little addicted to TikTok.
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Yeah, TikTok.
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SPEAKER_01
Is this an intervention?
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No, it s not.
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I m just kidding.
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But I think, I wonder if TikTok is, I wonder if it s better for you to just scroll at videos of things happening that are nonsense.
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Sometimes there s news, but.
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But maybe that s better, because that doesn t, like, I don t have TikTok, but I have Instagram, and Instagram does not make me feel the way that Twitter makes me feel.
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Twitter makes me feel like I m watching a fight between cats.
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Like it s a cat fight in a house.
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I just want to get the fuck out of here.
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I don t want to be a part of this.
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And it s also like a very poor, it s a very clearly poor management of time and resources.
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If you re using your time and resources to argue constantly on Twitter,
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But your life has to be a mess.
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It has to be a mess.
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It s impossible for you to only be disciplined in this area, where you contain yourself in this area.
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The rest of your life, though, everything s locked down, you don t have any problems, but when you go after Twitter, it doesn t affect you.
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It doesn t affect the rest of your life.
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SPEAKER_00
Bullshit!
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Bullshit!
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You re fighting with the invisible man, but that stuff is out there forever.
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It s out there forever and it s 100% proof that you are engaging in a foolish waste of your resources.
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100% undeniable proof.
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Dice would have been in as much trouble as Roseanne if Twitter was... It might have been a thing but he probably didn t know how to use it.
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It s been 20 years.
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SPEAKER_00
How long has Twitter been out?
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He d been in so many controversies that people expect it from Dice.
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Maybe, yeah.
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Roseanne was like America s blue-collar sweetheart for the longest time when she was on TV.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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She was beloved.
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And then she grabbed her pussy and spit when she did the national anthem.
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I was going to say, she did some shit.
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The national anthem.
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Who knows what she was on back then?
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Right, right, right, right.
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Listen, this lady, they ve been medicating this lady left and right her whole life.
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And she s always like, I don t know if they got the formula right this time.
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SPEAKER_00
Let s move it around a little.
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She s still working it.
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She s so good.
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She s got a lot of money, and I m sure those doctors are helping out.
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SPEAKER_00
But they were telling her at one point in time that they were threatening her royalties.
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that if she kept talking about things.
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SPEAKER_00
How is that possible?
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It s her show.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, but they can do things.
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SPEAKER_00
They can pull deals.
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SPEAKER_00
See, like if you re not making any money anymore, but you own a piece of a television show, and also we re dealing with, it s 2024.
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I m not in the TV business anymore, but I
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kind of know how it works.
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In 2024, I don t know how many people are buying old sitcoms.
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I m sure like Netflix and streaming sites, maybe they could use, but if they just decide, you know, hey, we don t want Roseanne on the platform, like there s shows you can t get.
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SPEAKER_00
Like 90s sitcoms, you can t find Grace Under Fire.
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Try finding that show.
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No, and I loved that.
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I loved her, I should say.
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She used to work at the store.
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She was wild, but she was funny.
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I think towards the end of her tenure there, she might have fucking lost the plot.
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I remember her showing up.
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She was crazy.
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SPEAKER_00
I heard she s got a little nuts, and she had substance problems.
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But she was so fucking funny.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you could tell.
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SPEAKER_00
She was a very funny comic, too, back in the day.
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and asked me to do her, like, bizarro favors at the store.
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SPEAKER_00
Favors?
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Like what?
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Yeah, like just to see if certain comics were there.
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Go comb my cat.
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She would have, like, crushes on certain comics, so she s like, hey, so call me if they come in.
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I m like, alright.
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But I was like, are you coming in?
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Because you re, like, hilarious.
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You re one of the ones I laugh at.
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SPEAKER_00
So are you coming in?
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SPEAKER_00
That s hilarious.
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But then she just stopped coming.
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But I think she did have some.
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But there s a thing called TV Land, which goes way back, I believe.
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Because I have, like, nieces and nephews that are like, Jeremy T, I love Lucy.
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I m like,
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Yeah, and reruns.
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They re like, it s my favorite show, but they watch it now on like TV land.
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I think it s a channel or could be on an app.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know.
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I can t keep up with the kids.
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SPEAKER_00
I still have cable.
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It s my own house.
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It s very expensive.
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Most things have to be both now.
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Like you can t just be a channel anymore.
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You kind of have to be a channel and an app.
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SPEAKER_00
I think you re right.
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If you re just a channel.
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Or they ve merged with the apps.
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SPEAKER_00
So, yeah, my nieces watch the oldest shows and, you know, I don t see, like, nobody comes up and says, like, the Bunker, what s that called?
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Archie, All in the Family.
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All in the Family, that s my favorite.
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But people don t say that one to me, so I wonder if that s available.
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SPEAKER_01
It s definitely available because people send me little videos, like Instagram videos of Archie Bunker.
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SPEAKER_01
You see the clips on TikTok.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
You see them on TikTok.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t use that Chinese spyware.
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SPEAKER_01
I prefer my spyware to be American.
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SPEAKER_01
I want people in this country sneaking around in my data and finding out what I m researching.
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SPEAKER_01
I m so lonely, I want them all to know where I m at at every moment.
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SPEAKER_00
Does India have an app?
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SPEAKER_01
Let s go.
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SPEAKER_00
Bring it on, bitches.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, it s just weird.
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It s TikTok.
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My nieces were like, you have to get on TikTok.
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So I did, but I stink at it.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know how to excel at it.
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SPEAKER_00
I do watch the videos, though.
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Well, you gotta be trans, first of all.
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Can you?
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Can you at least fake it?
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SPEAKER_00
No, it s not fair.
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SPEAKER_00
I wanted to transition when I was a kid and my mom wouldn t let me.
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I begged.
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I begged.
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I think I was like seven or eight.
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I wanted to be a male bodybuilder.
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SPEAKER_01
Really?
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And my mom was like... Imagine if that was around today and you lived in Santa Monica.
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I would be halfway somewhere at least if I was a kid now.
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Yeah, I d have one nut maybe We ll see but I m saying like I would I begged I told my mom I wanted I took a picture out of a male bodybuilders Magazine, I ripped it out and I was like, this is what I want.
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And my mom was like the guy like
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I like no, I want to trans.
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I want to be a male bodybuilder and I want it.
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I didn t know transition I just said I want to be a boy and she was so mad because she had Four boys in a row and she begged for a little girl and then I came out and I m like, what s up?
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Motherfucker, you know like how much that you what s up motherfuckers was affected by the fact that you have all those brothers
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Sure, just surround, I didn t know any difference.
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It has to be, right?
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Yeah, of course, because my little sister Edie is, she s not girly by any means, but she s not as butchy as I was.
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But she still played the sports and stuff and fought, whatever.
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But she didn t, she wasn t, we were just surrounded.
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SPEAKER_00
You know, the two of us, if we had dolls, they d rip their heads off, you know, so I d be like, oh cool, it looks better.
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And then we d color it in and just do dumb shit.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t remember girly stuff.
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I know my mom would beg me to do it, or wear a dress, and then I played rumble fumble in my communion dress.
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She was pissed.
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SPEAKER_01
Well, just the amount of boy behavior, and you re trying to fit in, and you re the youngest.
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Yeah.
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Well, not the youngest.
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Well, at the time.
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Yeah.
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And then I remember this boy saying to me, because I liked boys, but I was very boy-like.
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How many older brothers do you have?
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I have five older brothers.
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So when you were born, you re born into a home with five boys.
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Surrounded.
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Yeah.
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Crazy people.
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So that s the early developmental time where you re kind of like forming your view of the world.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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You have no evidence that girls are even real.
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Right.
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For years.
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For years.
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SPEAKER_00
My sisters didn t talk to me.
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Why am I not like these?
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I did, I had to share a room with my sisters and they, my mom put this big like canopy bed in there and it s a little tiny row home and the middle room is like a glorified closet.
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And so she put this canopy bed in there.
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You could barely open the door.
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And then when I slept in there, I wet the bed for a long time.
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So they kicked me out.
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So I had to sleep in my brother s room.
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So there was seven of us in the front room.
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I don t know why I m pointing like it s over there, but you know what I m saying?
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Like it just, so I was now I m in the room with that and that s all I know.
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That s it.
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So I m doing everything they do.
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I m playing football.
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I m outside with a helmet.
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Is she slow?
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SPEAKER_00
No, she s got a game.
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And you know what I mean?
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Like I was I was joking on the I did the are you garbage podcast with those guys.
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They re so funny.
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And I remembered a story because they were asking questions.
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And I remembered when I would play like handball or stickball, I take my shirt off and tuck it in the back of my pants and spit and everything like no shirt like
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And my mother s song, Jesus Christ, you know, but I was eight or something.
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I don t know, but I didn t care.
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I was like, that s what they do.
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SPEAKER_01
Isn t it funny that a woman s nipples mean something?
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SPEAKER_01
Why?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
It s very, it s funny.
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SPEAKER_01
I mean, it s so, it s so odd because even a woman that has the smallest of breasts, her nipples are like...
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SPEAKER_01
You can see them.
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SPEAKER_01
Like, it literally is the same form as a young boy.
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SPEAKER_01
Like, if you have a 13 year old boy and a very thin woman who has no breasts, they re very similar.
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SPEAKER_01
But one of them, when you realize it s a woman, you re like...
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SPEAKER_01
Isn t that crazy?
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SPEAKER_01
It is weird.
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SPEAKER_01
You re essentially literally looking at the same organ, the same part of the body.
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SPEAKER_00
Same exact thing.
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SPEAKER_01
It s not like you re looking at a vagina or a dick.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, those are significantly different.
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SPEAKER_01
You re just looking at nipples.
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SPEAKER_01
Female nipples make you go.
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SPEAKER_00
Because there s a slight drop behind it?
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_01
Have you seen the hack these hoes have found how to do on Instagram?
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SPEAKER_01
What?
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They breastfeed fake babies.
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SPEAKER_00
You can breastfeed.
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SPEAKER_00
Whoa, time out.
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SPEAKER_01
What are you saying?
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These hotties are pulling out giant melons, and they shake them in front of the audience and squeeze them, and then they stuff them in the face of a fake baby.
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SPEAKER_01
And this one girl, she s got her other tit out, too.
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Like, fuck it.
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SPEAKER_01
What if he gets hungry on the other side?
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SPEAKER_01
So she s got both tits out.
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SPEAKER_01
And it s a fake baby?
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SPEAKER_01
Fake tits, too.
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SPEAKER_01
Big, giant-ass fake tits and fake baby, and you re allowed to do it because you re allowed to show breastfeeding for educational purposes.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, this is how I m gonna get more followers, Joe.
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SPEAKER_00
You just gave me the insight.
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SPEAKER_01
These hoes are scandalous.
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SPEAKER_01
Check out my new TikTok.
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SPEAKER_01
They know.
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SPEAKER_01
Wow.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know if it s a TikTok thing.
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SPEAKER_01
I bet it ll probably get you kicked off TikTok.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, look at the baby.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh Jesus Mary and Joseph that fake baby and a big ass a lot of fake things on there What a filter by the way, by the way Not a lot of attention, but that s the one I d watch with the football play like an idiot
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SPEAKER_00
Wow.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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Glad you knew about that.
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SPEAKER_01
The most obvious, that s a shitty fake baby.
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SPEAKER_00
It is, it is.
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SPEAKER_00
That s a dead baby.
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SPEAKER_00
That s a doll.
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SPEAKER_00
People are writing, your baby s dead.
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SPEAKER_00
Your milk is poisonous, lady.
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SPEAKER_01
There s some people that get really good fake babies.
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SPEAKER_00
Wow, okay.
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SPEAKER_01
You have to look at the baby real close.
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SPEAKER_01
I think that s a rubber baby.
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SPEAKER_00
So they re just getting away with showing their tits.
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SPEAKER_01
Got it, okay, okay.
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SPEAKER_01
I think essentially it s an ad for OnlyFans.
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SPEAKER_00
I was going to say, yeah, oh that s, oh God.
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SPEAKER_00
So that s somebody s fetish.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, well, it s just the fact that they get to show their tit.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t even think it s someone s fetish.
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SPEAKER_01
It s probably definitely someone s fetish.
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SPEAKER_01
I mean, let s be clear.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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Out of all the freaks in the world, some guy s out there jerking off to women breastfeeding, for sure.
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SPEAKER_01
But it s not that.
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SPEAKER_01
It s just an opportunity to show your tits.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00
But now my boobs are starting to grow.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know why.
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SPEAKER_00
How?
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SPEAKER_00
Late in life.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know if it s hormone.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
But for years, nothing.
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SPEAKER_00
And now all of a sudden, I m like, this doesn t fit.
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SPEAKER_00
What s happened?
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SPEAKER_00
So I m going to start.
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SPEAKER_00
These guys just came in.
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SPEAKER_00
I didn t even know I was a girl.
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SPEAKER_01
Let them go.
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SPEAKER_01
Free the nipple.
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SPEAKER_00
New York City where they were like illegally arguing that I ve seen that I ve seen the protest I should be able to walk around topless because men can walk around topless Yeah, I saw a protest in Asheville one time and I was having lunch with Carl above we were doing a festival down there and it was packed like and it was we were both like
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I m not gay, but watching them flap while you re walking.
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It s just I was like, oh wow That s what they re supposed to look like.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean Carl s just on the floor like holy shit.
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SPEAKER_01
I m gonna move here Isn t it interesting that that s controversial that like there s laws that will tell you so
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SPEAKER_01
Look, if there s laws about a man exposing himself in public, that makes sense, because that s like a public health danger.
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SPEAKER_01
And it s danger because the vast majority of sexual predators, especially for younger people, are men, right?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
So a guy with his dick out in public is like a public safety hazard.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
A woman with her tits out is really, no one s scared.
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SPEAKER_00
But it s because of the predators.
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It s the only time where a law is in that where you don t have any fear whatsoever about that person harming someone with their body.
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SPEAKER_00
But yet you make their body a crime.
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SPEAKER_00
Right you make showing parts of their body of crime like you get a ticket or you can get right I think they could probably even arrest you for indecency Exposure.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but meanwhile, I could walk right next to that lady with my shirt off and there s no problems at all But didn t before I think the men got the right to take their shirt off Wasn t till like the 50s or 40 for a long time.
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They weren t allowed to either real.
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I believe so.
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SPEAKER_01
That s hilarious Yeah, what they do on construction sites
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SPEAKER_01
Well, they just arrest everybody?
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SPEAKER_01
What do you mean?
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SPEAKER_01
They can t be shirtless at a construction site.
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SPEAKER_01
It s a job.
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SPEAKER_01
You can t be shirtless.
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SPEAKER_01
They only were shirtless when they were having lunch, maybe.
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SPEAKER_00
Have you ever worked at construction site?
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SPEAKER_00
Are you out of your fucking mind?
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SPEAKER_00
Wait a minute.
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Are you talking crazy?
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SPEAKER_01
I m seeing them in the vest and the shirt.
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Maybe today.
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Because I d sit there and watch for a long time if that was true.
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If we were working outside, I did mostly construction jobs when I was in high school.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
So my stepfather was an architect, so I got a lot of jobs on building sites.
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SPEAKER_00
And so I would just get jobs as a laborer.
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It was a good job to get because you could always get them and it s hard work.
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SPEAKER_00
You would be outside topless constantly.
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SPEAKER_00
Ninety-one, court let stand law bearing topless men.
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Supreme Court Monday let stand a local ordinance prohibiting, this is in Washington, prohibiting males from jogging topless or otherwise appearing in public without wearing shirts.
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The court refused to review the constitutionality of a statute from the village of Southampton, New York, making it illegal for anyone to appear on a public street shirtless.
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SPEAKER_00
That s a very specific area.
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SPEAKER_00
So that s like, this is Southampton, New York.
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SPEAKER_00
It s what they re talking about.
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SPEAKER_00
I know when I lived in Boston, when we were working the summer, we always had shirts off.
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You get a great tan, too.
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SPEAKER_01
I can see it as a roofer, of course, things like that, but I don t know, I m just picturing maybe people- It s fucking hot.
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SPEAKER_01
Of course, it s crazy hot.
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SPEAKER_00
It s hot, you re carrying lumber, and the building that you re building has no ventilation, it has nothing.
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SPEAKER_00
It s just frames.
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SPEAKER_00
You re basically helping carpenters frame things.
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SPEAKER_01
I m my head.
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I m seeing them like right now with the vest on but maybe that s just my fantasy.
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SPEAKER_00
That s the summertime.
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SPEAKER_00
No shirt is easy.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
The hard one is wintertime.
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SPEAKER_00
No heat.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, because I had wintertime.
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SPEAKER_00
No heat gigs.
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SPEAKER_00
Whoa, those.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s tough, especially in Boston.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I had some of those right after I graduated from high school.
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They were a wake-up call.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
It was like, hey fuckface, you better figure out what you want to do with your life or this is going to be you forever.
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SPEAKER_00
This is it.
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SPEAKER_00
Being in the winter with numb feet, moving shit around on a construction site.
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SPEAKER_01
Mm-hmm fingers being frozen.
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SPEAKER_00
I hate that would have like a little public a little public portable heater that we would all gather around to eat lunch So you d all stand around this blowtorch where you re eating lunch like it s so dangerous, but amazing.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, this wasn t really a blowtorch it s like
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SPEAKER_00
You ever seen one of those?
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SPEAKER_00
They have them on set sometimes.
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SPEAKER_00
I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
They re hot.
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SPEAKER_00
When Chappelle and I did Fear Factor, I did Fear Factor on The Chappelle Show, so I came in and Tyrone Biggums was on Fear Factor.
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SPEAKER_01
Hey, Joe Rogan, I remember.
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SPEAKER_00
They filmed that in the dead of winter in New York in this warehouse, this space, whatever they were filming at, and they had one of them heaters.
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SPEAKER_00
So they would have them on set sometimes.
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SPEAKER_00
Got it.
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SPEAKER_00
It s like this big tube.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I vaguely remember.
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SPEAKER_00
And it gets hot as fuck.
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SPEAKER_00
You basically can cook a grilled cheese sandwich in front of it.
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SPEAKER_00
But they cause fires.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
You get a light on fire.
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Very dangerous.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
And so we would gather around in front of one of those fucking things.
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SPEAKER_00
And just be like... Just freezing our dicks off and then go right back out there.
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SPEAKER_00
You got to carry in the cement, carry in the lumber.
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SPEAKER_01
That was your motivation.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, it was just a wake up call.
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SPEAKER_00
You don t want to be doing no hard labor, son.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
But the point is, we could have no shirts on and walk around.
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No one cared.
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SPEAKER_00
But if we were a bunch of gals framing rooftops with our tits out,
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All the local hens.
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SPEAKER_01
You can wear the bra.
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SPEAKER_01
That s why girls now think they ll just wear a bra.
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SPEAKER_00
They didn t want to wear a bra.
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SPEAKER_00
They just wanted to let their tits out like a guy does.
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SPEAKER_00
All the local hens.
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SPEAKER_00
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SPEAKER_01
That s a baby.
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SPEAKER_01
I m not looking at that.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_01
I know but that s what they do.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know Yeah, well, I mean I think that s again There s always been a less girls that dress like that or close to that right go you can go way back to the I tried I try I wore cute little hot pants in the 80s.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I wore you used to wear a bustier Because I started clubbing like when I was 14.
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SPEAKER_01
I
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SPEAKER_00
Oh my god, Eleanor.
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SPEAKER_00
What a fucking background you have.
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SPEAKER_00
The perfect background to be a comic.
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SPEAKER_00
It s true.
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SPEAKER_01
Well once that, this is what happened with the boy, like me wanting to be a boy, I liked boys.
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SPEAKER_01
And this one really good looking kid that played football, he was, and I m like standing there, I remember like I m wearing shoulder pads, idiot.
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SPEAKER_01
And he goes, are you ever gonna be a girl?
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SPEAKER_01
And I was like,
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SPEAKER_01
And then I asked another guy friend I go how come so-and-so doesn t like me and they re like because he thinks you could beat him up like He doesn t nobody s attracted to the girl who may or may not be able to knock him out So I stopped and I was like, oh and then boys started to like me and I was like, oh, oh
4
SPEAKER_00
You had to learn a new pattern of behavior.
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SPEAKER_00
Yes.
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SPEAKER_00
Right.
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SPEAKER_01
But I still am like, watch it.
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SPEAKER_00
Like when guys start wearing cologne.
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SPEAKER_01
Right.
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SPEAKER_00
Like, oh, okay, I m going to clean up.
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SPEAKER_00
I stink.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
I still am like, not so grateful to be a woman.
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SPEAKER_01
It bothers me a lot.
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SPEAKER_01
Does it?
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SPEAKER_01
Because I still have that in me.
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SPEAKER_01
That s hilarious.
4
SPEAKER_01
It would be so much easier to just be a dude.
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SPEAKER_00
Do you think they could have talked you into being trans if you were like 12?
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SPEAKER_01
Absolutely, 100%.
4
SPEAKER_01
Isn t that crazy?
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SPEAKER_01
And I m good friends with Dylan Mulvaney.
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SPEAKER_01
We did a pilot together.
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SPEAKER_01
That s hilarious.
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SPEAKER_01
Dylan was not trans when I met them.
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SPEAKER_00
How do you say it?
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
Be careful.
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SPEAKER_00
You re gonna get in trouble.
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SPEAKER_01
She knows I love her, so I can t say anything wrong.
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SPEAKER_00
So you knew her when she was a he?
4
SPEAKER_01
Right.
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SPEAKER_01
But meeting her, when I did, I was like, oh, she s more woman than I ever was, ever will be.
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SPEAKER_01
I know I have the parts.
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SPEAKER_00
Even with a dick?
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SPEAKER_01
I m telling you, more girly than... I mean, girly, girly.
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SPEAKER_01
And my best friend growing up was like that.
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SPEAKER_00
You re a very kind person.
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SPEAKER_00
You re a very kind person.
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SPEAKER_00
And I just want to introduce this thought into your mind.
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SPEAKER_00
Uh-oh.
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SPEAKER_00
People are performative occasionally.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00
And sometimes when people want you to think of them in one way or another, they will behave that way.
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SPEAKER_00
And people can keep that up for... I didn t know them from anybody.
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SPEAKER_01
We just met.
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SPEAKER_01
Right, so you re saying she she was performing.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, I think he d be Deciding that you re a woman right and then performing like a woman.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, I think that we can all I see what you meant me Eleanor if you met me and you re like, oh my god, Joe Rogan is a woman like
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SPEAKER_00
thinks like a woman, behaves like a woman, has off this woman energy, like so sweet, so amazing.
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SPEAKER_00
It s performative.
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SPEAKER_00
Like you re a biological man.
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SPEAKER_00
And there s a lot of social value in being trans today.
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SPEAKER_00
There s a lot of, you get attention.
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SPEAKER_00
You get attention for having nothing interesting about you.
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SPEAKER_00
Other than the fact that you re a boy who wants to be a girl.
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SPEAKER_00
That s it.
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SPEAKER_00
And that is like a crazy low barrier to entry to be a part of a protected class and to be celebrated for people that will never be celebrated.
4
SPEAKER_01
But you don t believe people can be born and have like mixed up things.
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SPEAKER_00
I do.
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SPEAKER_00
I do.
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SPEAKER_00
I believe both things.
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SPEAKER_00
I believe yes, this is what we have to be wary about because when you see these cluster cases like particularly young girls We get like 10 girls that are on the spectrum and they all go trans in the school together That s crazy.
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SPEAKER_00
And you you have to realize that people are motivated just like you were when you were a young girl
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SPEAKER_00
And you were dressing like a boy and acting like a boy and then you go.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, I gotta not do that anymore And then now boys like me people are motivated by behaviors that get them positive reinforcement and there s this in this time in this day and age there s immense amount of positive reinforcement and
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SPEAKER_00
being a part of the LBGT pride whatever it is right and I that makes sense because it s a natural reaction to the the times when we were kids or gay people were shunned and
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SPEAKER_00
shit on and it was up until 2013 Hillary Clinton was saying that she didn t think that marriage should be between gay men.
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SPEAKER_00
It should be between a man and a woman.
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SPEAKER_00
Barack Obama used to say that.
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SPEAKER_00
They all used to say it.
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SPEAKER_00
So imagine being a gay person and so there s like this natural overcorrection.
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SPEAKER_00
So we re in this overcorrection right now.
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SPEAKER_00
But this overcorrection gets co-opted by opportunists who are just narcissists, just people with mental illness, and people who realize that they can get a tremendous amount of attention by just fitting into this new play.
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SPEAKER_00
And it s also a great way for perverts and sex offenders to weasel in.
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SPEAKER_00
If you were a guy and you were really into dogs, you d get a job as a dog trainer.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
Right?
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SPEAKER_00
Guy s really into dogs.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
He loves working with dogs.
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SPEAKER_00
If you re a pedophile, wouldn t you get a job at Nickelodeon?
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SPEAKER_00
Right.
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SPEAKER_00
You would, right?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_00
Well, isn t there like a scandal that s going on right now?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, bad.
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SPEAKER_00
Real bad.
5
SPEAKER_00
What is the Nickelodeon scandal?
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SPEAKER_01
The Dan guy?
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SPEAKER_01
I don t even know if it s that.
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SPEAKER_01
There s another one, too.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, really?
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SPEAKER_00
A new one?
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SPEAKER_00
I just like kids.
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SPEAKER_00
I just like working with kids.
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SPEAKER_00
Agreed.
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SPEAKER_00
I just like being around them and being alone with them.
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SPEAKER_00
Priests.
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SPEAKER_00
Being alone with them.
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SPEAKER_00
I like being alone with them.
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SPEAKER_00
Teachers.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Just me and the kid.
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SPEAKER_00
Camp counselors.
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Shh.
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SPEAKER_00
Let s keep a secret.
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SPEAKER_00
What the fuck?
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SPEAKER_00
That s fucked up.
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SPEAKER_00
But there s humans that recognize that there s like patterns that they can fall into where they can get more attention and get more praise.
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SPEAKER_00
So this is the Nickelodeon thing.
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SPEAKER_00
It says the actors claimed he was sexually abused by dialogue and acting coach Brian Peck, who pleaded no contest to performing a lewd act with a 14 or 15 year old and to oral copulation with a minor under 16 in 2004.
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SPEAKER_00
Ultimately sentenced to 16 months in prison in order to register as a sex offender in October 2004 His first interview since the release of the doc Bell has shared his thoughts on Nickelodeon s response to the allegations Yeah, I mean, how do you know when someone I mean if you hire you re hoping you re hiring people to just like
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SPEAKER_01
Like making kid shows maybe they have kids Why can t the parent be present like this this kind of shit?
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SPEAKER_01
But like they say kids that get molested and stuff like that a lot of times It s parents just being like giving them off, you know, like yeah and not being present There was I mean, I feel it s like think about I m like, why didn t we get molested?
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SPEAKER_00
We were on our own for a long time I dodged a couple bullets when I was a kid
5
SPEAKER_00
Did you really?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
But you re trusting people.
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SPEAKER_00
Sure.
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SPEAKER_00
And most people you can trust, and you hope you can trust these people.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_00
Did you know about UFC heavyweight champion, former heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez?
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SPEAKER_00
What happened?
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SPEAKER_00
His son was apparently by daycare, and he went after the guy and shot at him from his car and got arrested and was in jail for it.
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Yeah.
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He s still awaiting trial.
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But it was literally one of those things where everybody that hears that, that s a father, if you ask them, what would you do if that happened?
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Everyone says the same thing.
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If you can get away with sleepwalking and killing your mother-in-law, you should be away with fucking blind rage that makes you shoot at some guy who molested your kid.
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Listen, I don t have children, and if that happened to one of my nieces and nephews, I d be the one who snapped.
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I d lose it.
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It s the most evil of things.
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It s disgusting.
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But it s also, it s one of the weird ones that today they re trying to normalize.
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They re trying to call it minor attracted persons.
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When I say they, I want to be really clear.
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Yeah, it s just a few fringe psychos.
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But the problem is that- Those are pedophiles.
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That fringe psycho dialogue winds up on social media and then gets amplified by places like TikTok that want us to be upset at these kind of things, whether it s to program us or whether it s just to keep us fighting and then engaging in the algorithm, which is ultimately beneficial for them because that s really what they want, is more views and more interactions.
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Yeah.
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And so you ll have these wacky fucking people that give these speeches in public with cameras on them where they re talking about, we have to understand this is an identity and this should be a protected identity, a minor attracted person.
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This is not one person saying this, it s multiple people saying this.
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But it falls into that same thing.
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Some people are fucking insane.
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I agree, I agree.
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I just, like my best friend growing up, he was flamboyant from the get.
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And I mean, we were friends when we were six, seven.
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So he would always be like, and he made me get into cheerleading because he liked cheerleading.
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Yeah.
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Like cheerleading and then I was like, can we just do something?
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Can we play football?
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you know and then he started like we would fight and then we always used to say that we wished we had a button or We wanted to there was a cartoon where you can run into each other wonder powers activate or something like that Something different we were gonna run into each other and become a boy.
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Yeah nice
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And it never worked.
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But so he waited till both his parents passed and then he transitioned.
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But he wanted that his whole life.
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He just didn t want to disrespect his parents.
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It s it s 100 percent a real thing.
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It is.
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It s the problem is.
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But I agree that there s always people that.
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Jump in and act there is that and then there s this other thing.
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The other thing is money Oh, yeah, you have to realize how many gender-affirming care clinics have opened up just since 2007 if you look at the map of 2007 versus 2023, it s crazy the difference
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I mean, it s probably now or in 2024.
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It s probably even more but the the number of those things that they The by the way, they re just like a body shop.
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Yeah, bring a car into a body shop They re gonna want to fix the car.
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Okay, you bring a kid into a gender-affirming care.
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They re not gonna go Billy You don t just need to find yourself man.
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Maybe you re just a gay man.
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I
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They re not gonna just tell them like you just like there s a lot of social pressure on this and you re very Uncomfortable in your own skin in your own life and you re thinking that this is gonna be the solution to make you whole Right and also if you re a woman if they give you testosterone you are gonna feel better So the thing about testosterone it makes them alleviates anxiety it does all sorts of different creates a sense of euphoria when girls take it in high doses and
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My friend, someone in his immediate vicinity is transitioning from a girl to a boy.
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And he found out what the dose was, the dose of testosterone.
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He goes, this is like a hardcore bodybuilder steroid dose of testosterone.
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He s like, this person was banging.
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banging like a lot of tests every week.
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Holy shit.
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And it was just changing everything.
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Changing their voice.
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Yeah.
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Changing the facial structure, growing a mustache, like weird shit.
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Like knowing someone their whole life as a girl, then all of a sudden they have a fucking beard.
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Yeah.
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What is happening here?
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Yeah, so of course it s going to make you feel different.
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But is that who you really were?
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Is that who you really are?
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That s the hard part.
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I think of that a lot because I think if I did it, how would I feel?
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Because there are people that do it and then say, I want to go back.
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Yeah, detransitioners.
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And they get shamed, by the way.
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That s what s really scary.
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Those people get attacked because they re fucking it up.
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Because here s the thing.
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And you just have to look at it like a system.
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Groups of people always want more people in their group.
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Always.
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Like, people that use Windows PCs will try to convince you that Apple sucks.
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I know, I have heard it.
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I ve heard the argument.
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Now, trans people, unless they re actively trying to reproduce by going to a clinic, so unless you re a trans
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woman who has a fully functional dick and you re having sex with a trans man who has a fully functional vagina and hasn t taken so much testosterone that they re no longer fertile and Then even so like what s going on there?
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Yeah, but but that s like it s not the regular way that people have kids so you and there s no guarantee that you re gonna have a trans kid and
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So there s only one way to get more trans people you got to recruit Exactly.
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You got to recruit.
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Everybody needs a record.
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You can t draft you must recruit That s what they would say about gay people they re recruiting well Do some do but that s I m saying there s always a percentage I had this friend who s gay and he would always talk about how we convince straight guys and letting them suck their dick and
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Oh my God, I have so many friends.
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He loved it.
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He thought it was so funny.
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He s like, all these straight guys.
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Just get them a little drunk and tell them you suck their dick.
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It s amazing how many of them let you.
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It s unbelievable.
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And then there s, I know women that are gay and so forceful.
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One is like, was so, she would turn women, if you will, for a period of time.
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Date them, drop them like a bad habit.
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Now they re all fucking confused.
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They don t know who they are.
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Am I gay?
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Am I straight?
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Who am I?
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And then go through all this crazy mental breakdowns.
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I have two really good friends that like went crazy over this shit.
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And I m like,
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They got turned out by a lesbian.
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Turned out and turned down.
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See ya.
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Bye, bitch.
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Later.
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Sometimes lesbians come as hard as God, you know what I mean?
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Same kind of behavior.
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Drop you, just cut you off.
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You re out.
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Also, you re recognizing, if you re in that dating game, there s two players in that dating game.
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There s the strong, successful dominator, which could be a woman.
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And then there s a person who s like, well sure, I d love to come to work with you.
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It doesn t even have to be male or female.
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There s guys like that that wind up with these boss ladies.
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How many boss ladies do you know that have these really bag of milk husbands?
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Like these guys have zero will.
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Such a great line.
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They just have no will.
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There s no drive.
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If someone breaks into their house, they re going to faint like a possum.
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They just, there s no, there s no animal in there.
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You know, it s just.
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It s all gone.
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He s under the covers.
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You get him, honey.
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If it wasn t gone because of environmental conditions or biology, it s gone by the circumstances they find themselves in.
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They have a dominant woman and she yells at them and they get no sex.
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I try to not be that way, but I have done that.
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I have I have done that like I remember Andrew get dice getting angry.
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I always call Andrew whatever well when he got angry at me because there was like a Fight he got an argument with this guy at 7-eleven and I got in between and I and he was just like what are you doing?
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Doing and I was like, I ll kill somebody what you know, you know, I m gonna help like I thought we were on the same team You know, but he got mad and I was like, okay, you gotta calm down with your bruteness Okay, and not you know, throw a man through something cuz I m an idiot like that I just again like it s come to growing up with the wrestling and like even like you and I when I physically start really literally started wrestling and my mom was like
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Furious at that like what are you used to love going to watch you?
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But she was sorry at the forum.
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It was awesome.
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You re a fucking pro wrestler.
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It was incredible It was amazing.
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I loved it.
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I was like, this is so good at it, too.
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It was fun It was fun.
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My mom started giving me notes
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But it was entertaining.
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Sure.
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It s very entertaining.
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What it s supposed to be, you know, and so, yeah, I would have like, you know, now I m physically in the ring fighting with people like she was so embarrassed, but there was a point I was going to make and I lost it because my brain.
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No worries.
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But yeah, it s just I m saying like that whole trajectory of like I m still doing boy like things in a girl s body, right?
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And I do believe where you re saying like it s it s like my brother Charlie jokingly.
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I m Talking about like it s hitting everywhere.
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He went to the doctors and they were asking him questions She said what do you identify us now Charlie s in his 50s and he goes the fuck are you talking about?
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You know what I mean?
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I know, it s funny when they bring it up out of nowhere.
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What are your pronouns?
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You can see me, bitch.
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How do you identify with your mustache and your gray chest hair?
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Yeah, and he s sitting there, he s rubbing one out, like, what are you saying?
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But he looked at her because it s so foreign to him, and the lady apologized.
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She goes, I m sorry, I have to ask.
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It s like part of the regulations.
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Well, it s probably a DEI thing that they have that s attached to their business.
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It s so crazy.
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Yeah.
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It s it s well it s you know Vivek Ramaswamy.
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That guy was running for president.
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He s a brilliant guy and he said some very interesting things when he said he called it the tyranny of the oppressed.
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He goes Yeah it s not good to oppress people.
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Sure you should.
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Everyone should be free.
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But it s also not good.
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to give the oppressed so much power that they can just run rampant over everyone else, and everybody has to, like, adhere to their rules because they were, at one point in time, a part of an oppressed class.
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And I think that s the overcorrection that we re talking about with, like, the trans stuff.
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The problem is, today, it can be pushed in a way that s so different than when we were kids.
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When we were kids, if you were a gay guy, you became a priest.
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Did you have a gay guy in high school that became a priest?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we did.
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And he s not a pedophile.
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He s a great guy.
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No, our guy wasn t a pedophile, unless he turned into one.
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But when I knew him, he was a regular kid.
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He was my friend s sister, or my friend s brother.
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Whoops, Freudian.
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My friend s brother, they would always talk about, he s going to be a priest.
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So we were in high school riding the bus together.
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I think people even back then were calling him father.
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He was fucking 15.
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That s amazing.
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He just had it on him.
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Everyone knew he was going to be a priest.
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Yeah.
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My friend that did it, he s now out of it.
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Of the priesthood or the gayness?
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He s still gay.
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Still queer as they come.
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But he left the priesthood, which was weird because we were like, whoa, is he coming out?
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Is he this?
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And he left.
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And now he just said they were changing too many things, like the literal religion.
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mess him up to get him out.
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Really?
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Interesting.
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What were they changing?
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The Catholic Church, and my mom, please, she doesn t know how to listen to podcasts.
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Anyway, the Catholic Church changes on a dime.
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Like even something, Lent.
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Right now we re in Lent, right?
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Right.
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There was so many rules that my mom had that we don t have, like my generation didn t have, and now it s a whole nother, like Lent is not, now I m looking at kids like, what?
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You can do that?
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It s Lent, you re not allowed to, you have to do this, this, and this.
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But they ve changed, they just changed so that they can recruit more people.
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That s why the Muslims are gonna win.
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They don t give a fuck who joins.
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Ramadan is, you got a month and nobody s eating.
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All day long, no water, no food.
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We were in downtown the other day, driving downtown LA, and there s an alleyway, and this dude was in the alleyway.
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In LA?
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No, in Austin.
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Did I say LA?
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Yeah, that s okay.
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I m sorry.
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In Austin.
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Downtown Austin.
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And there was this dude that was in an alleyway, and the sun was going down, so he was praying.
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I saw that wherever the fuck you are.
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You gotta pray.
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I saw it in New York City He was like and it s so hard to find a space in New York City So I I was like, wow, that is impressive Exactly.
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He was behind like a pillar that like went into there was a little bit of room to go into these offices and he was literally just behind the pillar just doing that and I was like, wow, that is right in Times Square and
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Have you ever seen the one from Toronto?
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Uh-uh.
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Remember how wacky Canada is?
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Oh, yeah.
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It was Toronto, right?
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Call to prayer in the street.
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It s bananas.
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Really?
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The street is filled.
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They just do the call to prayer and people just come out of their houses?
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I don t know where this is.
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I don t know why they were there.
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I just saw the video and I m like, whoa, this is Canada?
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It just seems... Canada s a mess.
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I don t know if you ve been there in a while.
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I m sorry.
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I know they have health care, but it s not working.
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It s a mess.
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Their president sucks.
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They need some sort of no-nonsense president to straighten everything out, or prime minister, or whatever you want to call him.
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Yeah, the nerve of them.
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Get a better king.
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What you re doing is nuts.
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Every week, there s some new strike on rights and laws and freedom of speech.
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They just keep cracking.
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They stop people from being able to get guns.
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You can t have a handgun anymore.
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They re cracking down on all sorts of different things in regards to what constitutes hate speech online, whether or not they can filter your internet access.
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It s not good.
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They re homeless.
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I was in Vancouver.
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Did you find that video?
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Oh.
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It s really crazy.
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They re in this tree.
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Yeah, I want to see it.
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There s thousands of people in this tree.
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Oh, there it is.
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Give me this.
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Look at this.
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Look at this.
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This is in Toronto.
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Wow.
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This is in Toronto.
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So this is a protest for something.
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Oh, there it is.
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But it s still, it s still a protest.
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Okay.
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I even if it s a protest, that many people that are doing that, there s not another religion that would do that.
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That would do that.
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They are so much more devout in their belief.
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They re praying like the Catholics would just wave a cross in your face.
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And a lot of people would come out.
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Yeah, more Muslims are out there in the street on their fucking knees.
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Fuck your traffic.
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We re Which is this is that s a different thing Toronto.
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It s busy.
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Yeah and Toronto and Canada like their approach to immigrants was not assimilate and
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and become a part of America.
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Like, that s what we do.
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We re like, become one of us, become a part of it.
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Their thing was like, no, keep your culture.
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Keep your culture and keep it here.
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Okay, what if your culture is Sharia law?
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Like, what are you guys saying?
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Like, you know there s parts of the world that are living like the 1200s.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I, but that doesn t look like that.
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Like it s hard to figure out.
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Like you look at a priest, you go pedophile, right?
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And then you look at a Muslim, you re a terrorist.
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Like that s so bad.
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Like it s not, it s, it s again, it s a small portion.
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And it sucks.
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And it s also like our version of it is like, oh, you see him, they re terrorists.
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Well, why?
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Yeah.
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What did we do?
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What was your part in it, little lady?
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How many bombs have gone off in Yemen?
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What have we done?
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What did we do in Iraq?
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What did we do in Afghanistan?
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What did we do?
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Yeah, what did we do to deserve this?
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Accountability is lost everywhere in the world.
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Yeah.
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What we re doing is so bonkers all over the world with so many different bases.
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We re the only country that has bases.
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How many countries does the United States have military bases in?
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Let s just take a guess.
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How many have they had abandoned?
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Let s take a guess.
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Let s take a guess.
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Oh, a guess.
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Oh, shit.
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A guess.
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How many active military bases in how many countries?
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I m trying to see if I m smart.
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I see multiple military bases probably exist in some countries of strategic importance.
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Sure.
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But if we had to guess, how many countries have US military bases?
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Let s guess.
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I m going to guess countries.
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I know there s like so many.
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I m not smart.
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I m going to say 15.
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15.
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OK, I m going to go a little higher.
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I m going to say 30.
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Oh, shit.
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Really?
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Yeah, it s probably higher than that.
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How many countries?
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have military, US military bases in them?
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According to Al Jazeera, the number is not published by the Pentagon, but it is known to be around 750 bases in at least 80 countries.
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80?
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80.
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I was because I was thinking of the main ones that I hear.
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Yeah.
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Imagine if there s 750 Apple stores.
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Wow.
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I think there is.
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I gotta be honest.
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In countries that we invade and put an Apple store in.
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Wow.
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We d be like, what is Apple trying to do?
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Apple and Starbucks, side by side.
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They re everywhere.
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McDonald s just made it all the way to the Congo.
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McDonald s.
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Yeah.
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That s nuts.
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80 countries.
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That is 80 countries.
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And 700 plus military bases.
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Holy shit.
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So, you know, when you see terrorists and you go, why are they mad at us?
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Oh, yeah, I never.
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There s 520 Apple stores.
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Oh, there you go.
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So there s more military bases in other countries than there are Apple stores.
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Apple, you re slacking.
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Get it together.
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Isn t that wild?
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Wow.
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That s crazy.
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That s wild.
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We re a bigger business.
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And people are still talking about Microsoft?
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Yeah.
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What is happening?
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The US military is a bigger business than Microsoft.
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That s why they had to recruit the trans.
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They re like, we just need bodies.
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Get that admiral.
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That fucking dude, put him in a dress.
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Make him an admiral.
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Yeah, get everybody excited.
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You can become an admiral if you re a girl.
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You can win woman of the year.
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Give them woman of the year.
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Get a woman in the air.
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Look, I know you re a loser as a guy, but listen.
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As a woman, you re a winner.
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Nobody wants to fuck you anyway.
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Why don t you just pretend you re a woman for a little bit and move up that goddamn ladder, Lea Thomas.
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That s what you have to do.
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Swim it out, bitch.
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Yeah, swim it out.
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But that s the world we re living in.
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And then also you have China.
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which is so much more clever than the United States.
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Yeah.
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They re they ve been around and they ve thrived economically for 4000 years.
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So China has been infiltrating all of our education systems easily infiltrating buying up stock and businesses buying up land.
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They have their fucking tentacles in the entire system.
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in this country and they run the most addictive social media app.
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Adam Curry said this best, he s the original Podfather, he s the first podcaster, the guy from MTV, remember Adam Curry?
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Oh yeah, that name, yeah.
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No Agenda podcast.
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He s the best.
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I love him.
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But Adam pointed it out.
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He s like, this is the only time where there s been a thing that the United States makes where China dominates in what is ordinarily thought of as like a creative thing, like tech things, like for like a social media app that TikTok is the most addictive.
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And he thinks that all of this attacks on TikTok.
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He s like, they re not doing anything different than we re doing.
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He goes all the attacks is all just really designed to shut out the competition or break it up Yeah, and then make other countries Like China if they have a an app like tik-tok you have to sell to America Mm-hmm, I m not gonna keep doing the same thing, but now we ll have the data We don t want the data in those other people that are shifty.
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We want our shit people.
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That s right.
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Oh
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We re gonna keep an eye on you and use your microphone and look at all your fucking text messages that you send to your friends.
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Check your memes folder for fucking dangerous things.
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See how much makeup you really have.
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That s all they do.
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This guy in Belgium, they sentenced him to a year in jail because he s been sharing racist memes with his friends in a private chat.
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And then we went and saw the memes.
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Oh my God.
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They re like nothing.
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Oh yeah.
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Mine got out there.
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But I mean, they re nothing in that.
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Like they were talking about like Nazi ones, but the, did we ever find that the knots we did, we, we, we showed it on the show.
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See if you can find his memes.
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We found again, but remember the one had guns in it.
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We were like, maybe it was something to do with the gun Yeah, there definitely was a gun thing But the guns one was like they were in another country taking photos with guns Saying something like we re gonna take back our country or some crazy.
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Oh, well, anyway, they arrested this dude and okay, but they re allowed to look in your private chats and then sentence you for memes you send your friends and
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But that s how slippery this shit can get.
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Yeah.
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When you give people control over what you can and can t say and then you acknowledge that you re getting influenced constantly by foreign governments and foreign agents that are trying to sow the seeds of chaos.
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Yeah.
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According to this, there s no gun charges, so maybe not.
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Just straight racism.
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Racism, holocaust denial in relation to material shared amongst private group chats, although Van Levergo denies sending the material himself.
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So he was on the chat.
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He was on the chat that got all these things shared.
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Let s see what the actual I m trying to find them.
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I ve been trying to find them every time you talk about I can t really That s insane.
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I bet it has it for fortune.
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I bet 4chan s got it You don t know how to look up on 4chan what is a fake internet guy, you know what I do I call Duncan by the way, it s unfortunate all day long.
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No, hey, man I ll use my burner account
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I ll ask the guys.
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I m obsessed with Duncan.
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He s the best.
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The greatest human being ever.
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We forced him into being the talent coordinator at the comedy store.
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Yeah.
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Well, that s how Duncan and I became friends.
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Talent coordinator?
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Yeah, I used to call up and leave my avails.
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We d have these crazy conversations about Alan Watts and some speech that he gave.
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Yeah, the smartest person in the world.
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He s a fascinating guy because he s so uniquely him like Duncan He s not he doesn t change who he is to be around like other people He s just he s always been this really odd kind of hippie guy but also like very objective about things and He ll see like people getting sucked in a certain pattern of thinking and like hey what?
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Hold on, he ll be one of the first to, and he s really great at satire too.
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He s really great at pretending he s really into something.
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He uses Twitter for that all the time.
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If you look at some of his tweets and you didn t know, you d think he s serious.
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I read and I go, this is the greatest.
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He did one recently, something about the CIA.
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He s just fucking hilarious.
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I don t understand how people can t read the sarcasm.
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Because they re dumb.
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I guess you re right.
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But what he s saying, I m not smart.
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You had to survive though.
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You had to develop some kind of smarts.
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You had all these brothers.
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It s chaos.
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But laughing at what he s saying.
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It s so bizarre that you know it s fucking crazy.
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No, not if you re one of them Illuminati people.
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Oh, like believes in.
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Everybody s eating babies and getting adrenochrome.
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Yeah, yeah, I m looking for those babies.
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Well, there s a thing if you if you re on this podcast, there, there s a certain group of people that will think you re in with the Illuminati.
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They would think that I m in a man with the loom.
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I m here to tell you folks.
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The guy who has the number one podcast in the world this fucking thing is like it s all in my head It s all me getting text messages from it s all me like emailing guys to get them to come on It s all in my head.
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There s no CIA Influenced by the NSA and I was like an undercover spy sort of like this
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Strip search was normal That was the thing about the rock and roll movement in Laurel Canyon in the 1970s Eddie Bravo made me read a book on it.
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Yeah I watched the documentary I think yeah, there s there s like a crazy fucking conspiracy that
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The CIA created like Jim Morrison, The Doors and the rock and roll movement of the 60s, all the decadent rock and roll.
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Yeah.
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And it s there s weird connections.
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It s like you got to go like, whoa, there are some connections there.
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Here s the thing.
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I don t think you can create a Jim Morrison.
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You need to have a guy who s that guy.
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But Jim Morrison s dad was like a federal agent.
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Jim Morrison s dad was, what was Jim Morrison s dad?
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General.
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Wasn t he in the CIA as well?
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I don t think so.
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No, just a general.
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So it s like the one that gave the orders that started the Gulf of Tonkin or something.
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Okay.
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Jesus Christ.
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Whoa.
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Okay.
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So imagine that.
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So his dad, deep state, right?
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So that s a military connection.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Look at that rear Admiral.
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Not what I expected his dad to look like.
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So he s not a general.
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That s how he s heavy duty military man.
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And then his son,
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goes on and becomes one of the biggest rock and roll stars of all time.
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And like a complete counterculture figure, drugs and chaos and pulling his dick out in front of people, madness, driving a 67 GT 500 Mustang in the desert and fucking hair and sunglasses.
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And there s people that think that that sort of image, the rock and roll star, the decadent, depraved rock and roll star image,
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was calculated by the CIA in that this was all part of the same anti-war movement.
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What they were trying to do is stop the anti-war movement.
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They were trying to stop the hippie movement.
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And they think that what they did was encourage a chaos that came out of worshiping these degenerate rock and roll stars that were all drug addicts and saying crazy shit.
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Right.
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You re taking away his talent.
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No, but you re not, though.
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You re not.
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You re essentially saying that they promoted that.
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Promoted it, got it.
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The talent already existed, but they realized, if you can get this crazy, chaotic guy, sign him to a major record label, and then push him everywhere, and have these young kids see this guy- Worship this guy with his sayings.
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Worship this weird- Poems.
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The Lizard King.
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Right.
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This fucking wild dude that Val Kilmer played in that movie.
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Yeah, Val Kilmer like excellent thought he was Jim Morrison.
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He lost his fucking marbles.
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It s a great movie He seemed like Jim Morrison in that movie But that like that this this documentary this book is all about that the CIA had a hand in this Different I think a different.
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I don t know exactly what they said he did in it, but this is an explanation of what happened
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The details of the incident were distorted, perhaps intentionally, between Morrison and the other commanders on the scene, the Pentagon and the White House.
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That night, President Johnson interrupted primetime TV, a very big deal in those days, and told the American public that two U.S.
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Navy warships had been attacked on the high seas, and he was asking Congress for support to counter the North Vietnamese aggression.
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At the same time, Morrison and his staff told Navy headquarters in Hawaii that the radar returns the destroyers had targeted were probably false returns generated by the rough seas.
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Headquarters relayed the information to the Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara, but he failed to give those details to President Johnson.
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So based on Johnson s testimony that the destroyers had suffered an unprovoked attack in international waters, Congress approved of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, giving the president the authority to conduct military operations in Southeast Asia without a declaration of war.
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So that was Morrison s dad was a part of that.
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Wow.
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So, the thing is, it sounds super far-fetched, but when you look at what they definitely did with the Manson family, what they definitely did with Operation MKUltra,
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and Operation Midnight Climax and all these different crazy mind control experiments that they did and what they did with the Harvard LSD studies and what they did with the, they were dosing people with acid and trying to make them do things and trying to turn them into psychopaths and they did it with the Manson family.
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They got Manson when he was in prison and dosed him up with acid, allegedly, taught him how to be a cult leader, allegedly, and then provided him with acid, and then repeatedly let him out of jail every time he got arrested for things.
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Yeah, because he was arrested a lot.
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Yeah, and someone would step in and say, this is above your pay grade, and he would be out.
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Yeah, and they know that he worked with Jolly West, who was the guy who was running MKUltra for the CIA.
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So if they were doing that, do you think they re going to leave rock and roll alone?
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No, they probably would do it.
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And then there s also some people now that are saying they were a part of funding the gangster rap movement of the 80s and the 90s.
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That was another way to sow discord in society.
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And when society is unstable, you can control people more.
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When society is stable, then they want to go, hey, let s fucking get rid of some of these bureaucrats that are useless.
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Let s fucking clean up the streets.
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That s a stable society with a great economy.
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No, you want things in chaos.
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So the that s the way you stay in power and stay in control Yeah, what was it?
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It was a movie or something silly where they would play in the it was the music they were Musicians whatever they had an album out and in the album they were putting Something to like get people to buy certain things or do so little messages.
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Yeah I forget what it was.
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They would show like one frame.
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He said hungry eat popcorn.
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I
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Yeah, they would show like a photo.
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Is it a silly Will Ferrell movie?
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I can t it s drive me crazy Bill like Ben Stiller and so they but it was getting people to do things It was yeah crazy, and I was like that probably fucking happens Movies and Josie and the Pussycats I know something stupid find themselves in the middle of a conspiracy to deliver subliminal messages through the popular music
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It was so silly.
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So that was the TV show?
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Oh no, this is later.
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This is way later.
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Josie and the Pussycats was an actual animated show that was on when I was a kid.
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That s why I was thinking it was silly.
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So that s the movie from 2001.
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Yeah.
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Is that Will Ferrell?
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I don t know if he s in it.
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I just remember it being quirky.
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Oh, I never saw this.
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She s my favorite.
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I love that dude, too.
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Yeah.
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I think I watched it because Parker Posey was in it.
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That dude from Schitt s Creek?
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Yeah.
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Schitt s Creek is hilarious.
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You ever watch that show?
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My mom loves that.
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Such a good show.
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She s like, put that shit on again.
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I m like, it s Schitt s Creek.
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You know what s a good show that I used to shit on for no reason at all?
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Because I just never watched it.
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The Big Bang Theory.
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Oh.
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Big Bang Theory is a fucking funny show.
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It is funny.
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It s a funny show.
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Yeah.
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People say it s canned laughter, but I think they did do it in front of a studio audience.
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No, no, no.
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They did.
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Well, some of it is canned laughter, but that s the case in every single sitcom.
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So what happens is in any single sitcom, you ll have takes that someone flubs a line or something fucks up and you have to redo it.
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Sometimes you redo it without the audience.
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So you have pickups.
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So after the sitcom s filmed, the audience leaves and they say, oh, Joe, you have two pickups.
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Dave, you have two pickups.
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And so you ll just wear whatever you wore in that scene again and redo the scene.
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So you ll do it with no audience.
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Yeah, I didn t think of that.
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I thought they redo it with the audience.
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No, sometimes they do that, too.
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We did that, too.
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But you don t want to beat the audience up.
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Right.
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Sometimes if it s just a real quick second take, they ll do a second take.
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We ll do it one more time, folks.
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But if there s like a real pickup or maybe they need a writing fix, like maybe someone comes along and sometimes they ll be watching it live and they ll go, you know, we need a better line here.
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And so, OK, let s get it in post.
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So then they wait until after the show and then they do it.
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So if you watch like an episode of The Big Bang Theory and no one s laughing,
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And the reason why is because they probably filmed that without an audience.
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Sure.
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It s part of the process of making a sitcom.
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Also, it s a funny fucking show.
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It s funny.
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And what they re talking about is bizarro like that.
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We call my nephew Brandon Sheldon because he s like, you know, everything s a ritual.
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Like you have to do it a certain way.
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It s incredible the way he shits on people.
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Yeah, and the way he does like saying things and then like they ll have to remind him Hey, that s sarcasm and he s like, oh that like you people You re so minimal.
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Well, he s also not that competent, right?
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Bizarrely smart bizarrely overestimates his so even amongst other Physicists he falls short.
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It s a complicated character.
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It s very funny.
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I
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I think it s great.
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I think he did a great job with it too.
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No, it s a great show, but I was watching the other day.
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You know, the reason why I found that show actually is a show that I think is even better than that, which is Young Sheldon, which is a Netflix show, which has no audience.
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Yeah, and young Sheldon s about him when he was a little boy, and it s hilarious.
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It s not new.
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I think there s like several seasons Yeah newer yeah, I but I think there s like six seasons I think they started making it after Big Bang Theory was done so then they did young Sheldon right, but it s it s
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It s a really funny show.
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And I was like, God damn, this is about the Big Bang Theory.
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And then we started watching the Big Bang Theory.
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And I m like, it s a good sitcom.
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And it made me think like, man, other than Miss Pat, Miss Pat, who has a regular sitcom, she has an actual legit film.
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And it s hilarious.
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But you have to have the BET app to get it.
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Maybe it s on something else too now.
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What else is Miss Pat s show?
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I see it on BET.
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So, other than that, like, dude, they don t exist anymore.
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The audience sitcoms?
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There used to be a hundred of them.
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Not good ones.
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They used to be on the WB, and the UPN, and the fucking ABC, and NBC, and CBS, and Fox.
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And there was so many fucking sitcoms.
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Yeah, I think now everything s about hospitals.
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Oh, OK.
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You can get it on everything now.
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Oh, yeah.
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OK.
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So you can get it on Roku, Amazon Prime, YouTube, Google Play, Apple TV, and BET+.
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Well, Apple TV s real good about that.
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Most shit you can get even stuff.
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That s like, you know, I m watching Shogun Shogun s on FX Somebody just told me about that.
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I gotta get into it.
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They said it s really good.
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It s very good, but you can watch that on Apple Yeah, you just get on Apple TV.
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I love Apple TV.
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I have that I
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They just turn you into a fucking Apple robot.
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You buy everything, you get sucked into the ecosystem, and they make it easy.
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You resist, but you re like, why am I resisting?
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It s so much better.
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My phone is a remote control.
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You use your phone as a fucking remote, and it s a better remote control than the one that s on your stupid thing that the guy programmed.
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Wait a minute, this could be a remote?
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I m kidding.
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My niece taught me that.
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Your phone is a remote for Apple TV.
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It s incredible.
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It s the best.
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The Apple TV, I mean, to go back to the TikTok thing, I would see a lot of clips from Ms.
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Pat.
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People love it.
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It s a great show.
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So it s great to see.
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Because then, this is another thing, they ll play clips from TV shows.
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So you re like, oh, what is that show?
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And then you kind of get into that.
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Or I never watched that whatever show was out a long time ago.
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And then I m like, oh, I should check that out.
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And you ll find it on the apps.
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And so now I m watching it.
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So TikTok is telling me what to do.
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Yeah.
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They re definitely moving you in a direction.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it s not bad.
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But the thing is, the question is, should we protect people from the kind of influence that can scramble their brains?
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Sure.
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Because you can t, like remember when a few years, not a few years, a few months back, all the TikTokers had got a hold of, what the fuck s his name?
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Osama Bin Laden.
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Osama Bin Laden s letter to America.
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And they were like, oh my God, it s John Bin Laden.
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He was the good guy.
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Like, America s the bad guy.
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And it was like all these fucking... Fucking Cobra Kai?
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What is this shit?
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No, I m telling you, it s this foreign influence.
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I guarantee you there s some of that that s a part of like the accentuating that.
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And then there s also like the radical left today that wants to, you know, attack everything that s America and thinks that American flags are racist, you know?
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People are out of their fucking minds.
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Well, anybody that wears an American flag, they re considered like this, you know, Trump or whatever.
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It s hilarious.
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It s the left, right?
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Is it the left?
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I don t know.
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I m not good.
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Look at that right there.
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I don t know.
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That s a goddamn American flag right next to Missy Shore.
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Yeah, it is.
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I was literally looking at myself like, hi.
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And then I m looking at Missy s nipples.
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And yeah, that flag is gorgeous.
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See, I grew up, my mom worked for the Philadelphia Navy shipyard.
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So she had rules you weren t like when I see people with flags like bikinis We weren t allowed to wear that like my mom was like, that s disgraceful.
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That s not how you wear the flat I m like, oh, okay, like you couldn t have shorts with it on it You had to fold it a certain way we drive down the street and she d see tethered flags and she those people are un-american and
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Like she had folded a certain way you had to take it in when there was a storm Like she is a little crazy about like so when I see it I m like, oh like I stand up straight cuz I m gonna you know get yelled at by my mom So I get nervous.
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But yeah, I do I don t look at a flag and think oh, that s but have you watched?
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It s bizarre to say I watched it for a little while I gave it up.
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You see what I m saying?
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They made Johnny Yeah, he s a bad guy now
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No, but they made him like he was yeah, right.
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Uh, no, he s the good guy and ralph macho is the bad guy, right?
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It was hilarious I was like this is and then i m like is that really what happened?
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Like now i m starting to think it so the osama bin laden people are probably like Fuck this we ve all been lied to yeah
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Because we do get lied to a lot.
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So the second you see one thing, you could be like, see, we re right.
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Also, Osama bin Laden was a CIA asset.
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Osama bin Laden trained the Mujahideen to fight the Soviets.
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He was a part of that.
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So when he turned on America, it s not like we didn t do anything.
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Again.
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We re like a crazy girlfriend.
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Like, I didn t fucking do anything.
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He just fucking left me.
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I didn t do anything.
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It s no big deal that I shot his window out.
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Why d you guys get kicked out?
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We were just laughing.
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We weren t doing anything.
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We were just laughing and they kicked us out.
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How many times I ve heard that?
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I was helping this show.
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How many times have you heard that?
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A billion.
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Easily.
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I was so disappointed in Donnell yesterday.
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Donnell was telling me he started his career as a heckler.
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Shut the fuck up.
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Donnell Rawlings started his career heckling.
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He s like, son, I was moving tickets as a heckler.
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He was saying that people would come to see him heckle, that he would heckle the comedians.
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That s how he got it started.
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I don t know how to feel about that.
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That s how he got it started.
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He got his career started as a heckler.
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Our enemy?
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I go, don t you feel bad about that now?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Don t you feel terrible about that now?
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Yeah, I mean, that s awful.
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So how would he move tickets?
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Like, he would go to shows and, like, prove he was better than the comics?
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It s done now.
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It s all, like- He s so funny.
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It s gonzo journalism.
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You re not sure what s real, what s not.
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I do love him.
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He s the best.
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I love him, too.
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He was looking sharp yesterday.
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He got a three-piece suit.
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He does dress so nice.
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Yeah, sometimes he does.
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He s, like, changed his look.
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He had a three-piece with a tie and a, like, a pocket square.
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Ooh, okay.
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Yeah, Netflix special and a pocket square my man slim cut.
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He looked good.
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He looked like using a good shape Yeah, lost weight.
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I like it my specials on YouTube.
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So I m wearing a sweatshirt Yeah, but specials on YouTube are great because they re accessible to everybody.
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No, I love it.
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It s a good move I I was a little bit like a discipline like oh I should try to shop it and I sent it to a few people, you know did a little bit of the shopping but then I was like No, I think the YouTube s the better the better option
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It s a great way because you re going to ensure that people will find it easy and be able to get a hold of it instantaneously.
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Everybody has a YouTube account.
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Or if you don t have a YouTube account, you just use YouTube with no account.
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Exactly.
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YouTube is like the only thing that ll let you watch stuff with no account.
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Well, I knew that when I saw my brother Charlie watching it, and I was like, wow.
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He can t work Netflix, but he s got YouTube?
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This is amazing.
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Things like Instagram or TikTok.
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People send me TikTok links all the time.
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I don t have TikTok, so I m not going to click on it.
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Oh, interesting.
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Then I would have to sign up, or I d have to watch it on the website.
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It s annoying.
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I don t want to do that, and I don t want to sign up for TikTok, so I don t have it, and so I don t click those links.
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But if someone sends you a YouTube link, it just starts working.
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Yeah.
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Instantly you just don t have to have a YouTube app on your phone it just shows you the thing you can go to YouTube from other websites and like it ll be like a Embedded link and you can watch YouTube without ever opening up a YouTube app I don t think I knew that about the tick-tock thing because I do send them to my brother Jimmy a lot He doesn t know if he doesn t have tick-tock face nothing You can kind of watch them, but you got to go to the website and ask you to download the app.
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You re like no.
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Thanks, China Fuck off
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Fuck up, China.
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I m buying all the American propaganda.
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I m not going to your Chinese website to watch an open letter to America from Osama bin Laden.
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By the way, I m going to Google that later.
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Want to hear it?
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Want to hear the open letter to America?
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Because they translate it.
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See, the thing is, through AI, one of the really wild things about AI is it can seamlessly translate your voice and even your lip movements to other languages.
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So they re going to do that with this podcast, where they re going to translate this podcast to Spanish, German, and what was the other one, Jamie?
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Was it India?
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Was it Hindu?
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No.
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That s great.
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French.
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I think it s Spanish, German, and French.
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I think that s it.
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Is that right?
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I think those are the three at first.
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That s awesome.
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Right.
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So what they can do now, though, is they can translate Hitler s speech.
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So they ve got Hitler s speeches that Hitler gave in German.
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And you get to see it in English, and you re like, oh, he sounds like Trump.
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He doesn t sound nearly as radical as you thought he did.
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I m just kidding, he doesn t sound like Trump.
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He doesn t brag about himself.
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He doesn t?
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I thought he did.
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No, he s not funny.
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Trump is funny.
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Trump is definitely funny.
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Funny things no one s like him, but what he what he s doing is not like we gotta kill the Jews like that s what I thought it was all I thought it was all like we got exterminate the Jews and killed when you see those things those speeches That s not what he s saying.
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You can t convince somebody just to say it outright you have to manipulate them first So he brought him in he really brainwashed them
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For sure.
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And also, he s methed out of his mind.
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Oh, really?
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Oh, yeah.
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Hitler was on all kinds of amphetamines.
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You didn t know that?
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I heard it, but I didn t believe it.
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You can see proof of it.
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There s a video of him in the, I think it was the 1936 Olympic Games.
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And he s in Moscow, and he s just rocking.
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Just sitting there.
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Look at this.
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Look at him.
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Oh, yeah, but I see I ll look at that and I ll think it s the film from back then.
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Footage of Adolf Hitler, 1936 Olympics.
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Some people did say this is sped up a bit, but he still is moving.
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Yeah, whatever dude, whatever.
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Dude, I m doing that now and I m not on meth.
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Just look at all the other people in the audience.
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They re not moving like that.
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Yeah, that s weird.
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Bro, that guy s methed out.
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Even if it s sped up, but it doesn t look sped up.
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The guy next to him does not look like he s moving faster than normal at all.
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Well, maybe he does.
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Maybe he does.
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That s creepy.
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Look at the way that guy lifted up his binoculars.
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It looks a little bit sped up, like maybe one and a half speed.
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Something s off.
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You know sometimes people watch podcasts at one and a half speed?
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Yeah, I ve seen that.
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I was watching this YouTube video where these guys were watching another YouTube video, but they were watching it one and a half speed.
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And I was like, wow, that sounds weird.
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And then I realized what they were doing.
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I m like, oh, they just speed it up to get to the point quicker.
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Yeah.
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When I was in high school, I got a little bit obsessed with Hitler.
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Literally, I was a bad student, terrible student.
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The only thing that piqued my interest is this creepy guy was able to run five countries, get five countries to believe what he was saying and do what he was saying.
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He was conquering these people.
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And I m like, this is a real person?
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I was oblivious to everything.
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So I started getting good grades because I was paying attention.
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And my mom was like,
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Just like during the pandemic.
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She s like remember when you loved Hitler No one Loved Hitler.
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I was just well listen also back then when you were a kid that was 50 years after the war Which is like it just happened.
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Yeah, so so you re looking at like your grandpa s age Yeah, your grandpa was alive when this happened like what?
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yeah he was in the war yeah so it s like wait what this is a real person like i just didn t because it would seem so far away and then you re like this just happened yeah it seems completely insane yeah it seems completely insane that that just happened
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Yeah, but so the point is like so now they can take this Osama bin Laden speeches and they can translate that Wow Yeah, do you use AI for anything else?
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Like I don t use it.
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My friend is Trying to get me to download this app and GPT.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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No, I says it every day I know a lot of Duncan uses it constantly Duncan fixes her letters if you hate someone say if you hate someone Duncan will Make an audio recording of you praising that person
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And talking about how you want to go down on her and I m not even gay But there s something about the sweet smell for pheromones that excites me on a cellular level like he ll Anytime anybody is mad at somebody he will make some ridiculous audio recording some satirical audio recording of Duncan isms
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Because it s almost as smart as Duncan.
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Almost.
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To me, I just put him on a pedestal.
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He would torture me when we were working together because he s the talent coordinator.
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We called him the Sheik because he came in after Princess Corrie.
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He hated the nickname, he hated the whole job, everything.
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Well, he s just a comic that wanted a job.
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Exactly.
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And he says that, you know, when I was waiting tables at the store, I would be very harsh to comics, right?
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And especially if I liked them, I would fuck with them a lot.
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And he said that he got off stage and I said to him, I don t know what that was, but it wasn t comedy.
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I m like, I did not, because Duncan s one of my favorites, but I probably did.
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But you did as fun, for fun.
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I probably did.
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For fun.
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We all did that to each other.
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It was a good time.
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It was part of the fun of performing together.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, but it s like what Duncan was, was like this complete unique person.
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Like, what are you doing here?
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Yeah.
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You know, you should be in an ashram somewhere.
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What s in the box?
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Little hobo.
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Oh, okay.
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He s fucking tall everywhere.
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Someone stole Little Hobo and he replaced it with a better Little Hobo.
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I know.
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I was very upset when I heard Little Hobo was stolen because that was like one of my favorite things to watch in the original room because it would do the music, you know, the whole thing.
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It was so good.
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Dice would sit in the back and just be screaming.
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It s his favorite thing ever because I was like, you have to see this.
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And then he came in to see it and he s like, like this to Duncan.
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Worships him.
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No, it s incredible.
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It s but Duncan is a unique guy.
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There s no other Duncans.
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I don t know anybody like him I know people that like try to pretend that that guy but that s really him He did call me an old mayor for a while.
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So mayor motherfucker Fucking kill you Duncan
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But you were always really good to go to, like if, I could always ask you if someone was coming in from out of town, if they were any good.
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You were the one who would give, because a lot of people would bullshit.
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Because they were thinking, maybe this guy s going to get a sitcom, maybe I ll be on a sitcom.
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I ll probably say, oh, he was great.
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It was a good set.
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Solid material.
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And I go to you, you re like, fucking hack.
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He s a hack.
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I go, really?
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Yeah, he sucks.
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I m like, wow, really?
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You re like, yeah, yeah, terrible.
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As a comic, I feel like when people ask me, like, hey, so-and-so s coming in from New York.
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And I m like, oh, wow.
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Because I don t want to lie.
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Right.
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But I m also when I was waiting tables, I had no steak.
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Right.
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Like I wasn t a comic.
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Exactly.
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So it s like, OK, I could say whatever I want because I m in a different field.
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But now I m in the same field.
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So what if I m coming to New York?
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Right.
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Somebody s like, she kind of sucks.
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You know, whatever.
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But then be undeniable.
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Yeah.
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So I get nervous that it s going to backfire.
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It will.
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It will.
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That s how it works.
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It will.
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If you talk shit, people will look at you.
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Yeah, it s true.
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If you watch groups of people that have developed a hater community, that hater community will always target them.
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They ll eventually turn on them.
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Because you ve developed a bunch of attack dogs.
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Yeah, but now now people like in a text thread they ll ask about people and you know we always fuck with each other and the text threads and we could be very vicious and you know send horrible shit to each other and so I you know somebody brought up some comic from New York and I go oh they re really good oh that s the new Eleanor oh they re really good and I m like you go fuck yourself because now I m watching people in a different light
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Yeah, but there are there are people that are objectively hacks like you see and you still see them clear as a fucking I mean anything they re just like plug-and-play Yeah, they re like find a topic that everyone s talking about and talk about that topic that topic take
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No zero unique take but also like sometimes it s internet jokes, and I m like dude You re getting away with this like Rick Ingram said something about a comic that Getting a lot of press right now.
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Whatever you want to say for their special and he was like this is vaudevillian
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Oh my God, it does go that far back.
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I m like, yes, that is accurate.
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But I don t try to shit on as many people, but I do see it still.
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Yeah, it s sometimes better to keep moving.
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But sometimes you have to be honest.
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Sure.
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There s a problem when you re running a club.
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Oh God, yeah.
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My situation, thank God I have Adam.
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That club is so fucking amazing.
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It s pretty fun.
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I can t.
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Last week, I mean, two weeks, whenever I was here, I m still not off that high.
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Yeah.
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Still not off that high.
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And getting to do it at Dom Irere, even fucking better.
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Yeah.
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It s a fun place.
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Yeah.
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So I give up all the power to Adam.
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I basically say, look, you know what you re doing.
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You re really good at it.
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You decide who s booked here or not.
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And we talk about it.
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We talk about certain things.
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You know, when someone hits me up and they, you know, this is not the level that we re looking for.
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It s hard to say.
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Like, what do you say to that person?
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Like, you re, you ve lost the way.
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Like, I don t know what you got, but it s not good.
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Whatever you just did, it wasn t comedy.
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I don t know what that was.
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But the thing is, it s like, if you, especially if you re in a scene that sucks, like if you re out there, that s one of the things that s the most beneficial thing about the club is that you re involved with a bunch of other comics now.
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Sure.
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You know, it s a scene of like-minded people.
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Yeah.
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And everyone s kind of doing the same kind of thing, you know, and you get to like, you get to feed off of each other s success and energy.
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And there s a lot of comics out there that do not have
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access to that and they get stagnant.
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Get stuck in this little like I thought about this job I didn t get a long time ago and then I saw a person who got the job and I was like oh I m glad I didn t get that job it was a writing thing but now they re stuck in that little that s the velvet prison right and they can t get out.
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Yeah, that s the velvet prison.
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It s a bad prison to get in, because you get a good living.
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And then all of a sudden, during the pandemic, all that shit got shut down.
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And all those guys were like, Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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And I can t go on the road anymore, because nobody knows who I am.
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Because I ve been working in a writer s room for 20 years.
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And now I m watching that person like try to bring themselves back.
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And you re like,
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The paddles aren t working.
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And you also have a family now and you have a mortgage.
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You re not a 21 year old guy on the road where you could just kind of like sleep with two other dudes in a hotel room and crash on the floor.
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I m going to sleep in the tub because everybody snores.
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It s like we we did wild things back then.
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I slept in a storage room once.
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I did a gig on an island and they had cots in a storage room.
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It was like canned tomatoes and shit.
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We had a bathroom that we could shit in.
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And then there was like, there was nothing there.
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Yeah.
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There was no hotel.
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It didn t exist.
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Yeah.
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Just so many gigs like that.
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But those, they build character.
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Those are important.
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Oh, certainly.
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You can t do those when you re 50.
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No, but I will say this I I do kick myself in the ass a lot cuz I didn t start when I first moved to LA You know, I waited tables 12 years then left came back a year and a half later as a comic that s mental illness I know I get it not but didn t jump but that s weird like all those years no interest in it No, nothing.
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That s the weird part because you didn t have an interest.
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Oh
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Well, no, and I think it was when Freddy Soto passed, that was the jarring moment that was like, what are you doing?
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And he would say it constantly.
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You should be doing stand-up.
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Come on the road.
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That kind of shit.
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And a lot of comics said it.
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But it was because we would fuck around in the kitchen.
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I mean, I m doing bits in the kitchen with you, looking for a stamp.
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Eleanor used to always do this thing where I would say, hey, I ve got to send a letter.
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Do you have a stamp?
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And she had an apron.
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She d put her hand in her apron and just start fingering herself and I m like, are you fine in the stamp?
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People around us would be like, what the fuck are you guys doing?
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I m like, are you okay?
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And it was just like this running gag that we did for like five years.
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You re doing comedy in the kitchen, but we re trying to find things that would entertain our brains, right?
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Right.
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You were always doing it with us So like then you did the pro wrestling and then you just stand up after the pro wrestling.
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Yeah But it worked like you know, you re a headliner like it worked
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That s what I m saying.
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I m loving it.
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I mean, probably I got lucky with going on the road with Dice.
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We only had a few uncomfortable encounters where I had to share a room with him and his ex-wife.
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I ve never heard any of this before.
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That s crazy dice made you share a room with what just it was though.
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I ll tell you what he s already dice It was doing great.
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It was my fault It was I I was supposed to leave at a certain time and the plane got delayed not my fault But whatever like so it was like oh shit or immediate like that.
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That was the only uncomfortable other than that We re in five-star hotel, so I m spoiled, right?
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You know, I get that little one thing and it was, you know, oh God, what is this?
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You know, then I go on the road as a headliner by myself and I m like, oh, this is different, you know, not as bougie, but we re getting there.
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Are you bringing people with you?
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Not yet.
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That s why I want to make this like my special.
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I needed to go up because I think that s a great asset to be like me and Andrew have so much fun on the road because we re such good friends.
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And we fuck around and do those videos all day.
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And so we make the most of it.
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But when you are on the road and you have to use people you don t know, and they re fine, but having your friends is really a, it s a great way to travel.
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It s the only way.
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It really is.
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But you gotta get to a certain level to be able to pay them to do that.
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Yeah, I started doing it before I really could afford it.
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Because I realized at a certain point in time, it s better to have people on the road with you than to make... Well, I could afford it.
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Let me correct myself.
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I could afford it, but it cost me money.
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Yeah, you re losing money on your gig.
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Yeah, because I wasn t getting a lot of money back then either.
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So it s like if I knew that the club wasn t willing to pay airfare and hotel and pay an opening act a good amount of money, more than they re getting normally when they would be working at that club.
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So then I started bringing guys on the road with me, and I was like, oh, this is so much better, because then we re going out to dinner together, we re laughing, we re in the green room together, we re laughing, we do shows, we re laughing, we go to the airport, we re laughing.
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It s a lot less lonely.
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It s fun.
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It changes the entire gig, and it makes the gig a great time.
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And, you know, I m out there with Duncan and Joey and Ari, so they re family.
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Yeah.
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Like, we were having a great time.
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It was a great time.
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Yeah.
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It was just fun.
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It was just fun.
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And it just makes the whole thing more of an experience.
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And then you re getting to watch them grow as well.
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And now their headline, they re doing it.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, everybody is moving up, and that s a positive.
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Exactly.
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Everybody s learning from the road.
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And it s also, it s like, just the experience of the job is, we re all like, oh, we re so lucky we get to do this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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We do that all the time at the club here.
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It s like, well, God.
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Unbelievable.
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We re so lucky.
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We re so lucky.
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Last night, me and Steve Small were like, we re so lucky to be here.
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We re just in the green room loving it, because it s just so great to see.
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It s family.
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It is.
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It s family.
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And when you meet somebody on the road, like you go to another city and you see somebody that you kind of came up with or whatever, you re like, hey, you re like a dog.
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Let me hang out.
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Let s go hang out.
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No, there s something extra special about being on the road with some friends from a different city.
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Like one guy s working at a local club.
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When s your show over?
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10 o clock.
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All right, let s meet up.
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Oh, you have two shows?
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What a pussy.
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You know, I m like, I m sorry, I m still... Yeah, but those those days are, you know, like, it s hard to appreciate it while it s happening.
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But that s,
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the rarest of rare in in the world of occupations because you do a thing that is really fun to do.
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You love doing it.
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And other people get a great joy out of it.
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Yeah.
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Like the people go and they feel better.
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And you re doing it with other friends who are also doing it and also enjoying it.
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And everybody s just having a party.
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And you re just making the whole journey just more fun, just a better experience.
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Another fortunate thing is Dice loves doing clubs, right?
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And I mean, he could do theaters, whatever, but he loves doing these little clubs.
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So what he ll do is he does the early shows.
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He doesn t like to do two shows.
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So I headline the late shows.
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So it s like we re still getting to hang out and then I m meeting a lot of cool like locals from different areas So that s a little easier in that like I m still hanging out my buddy and then I meet new people.
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That is nice Yeah, so I got I am very very fortunate not good to work with him and where do you go up in LA nowadays?
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I m always at the store, of course, but I do the laugh factory, the improv, and sometimes I ll even go do the ha-ha.
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I haven t done it in a while.
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The ha-ha is a good break.
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But I love the ha-ha, too.
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I never fucked with flappers.
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I think I only went up on flappers once.
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No, I haven t.
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I went up once there, I think.
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The ice house, they say, is all revamped.
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I haven t done it, to be honest, since you were there.
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Yeah, that was a great spot.
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Well, that s where I used to go when I get kicked out of the store.
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I spent a lot of my time with the Ice House.
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My fucking nerves with that story.
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Yeah, it was a fun time.
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Fun piece of history.
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It was fun.
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No, but yeah, we were doing the Friday Night Chronicles or the Ice House Chronicles.
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I m sorry.
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Yeah, we did the Ice House and I did the improv quite a bit too.
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in Provincetown, but I always miss the hang of the store.
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The hang of the store was always the different thing.
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We had that quite a bit at the Ice House.
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We had a good hang at the Ice House.
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Well, say you built that with your club for sure.
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The hang is phenomenal.
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The show s itself great as well, but it s like, that hang is so cool too.
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It s important.
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But you brought that important because I do feel like, even if I work the other clubs, I do wind up back at the store because they have more of the space to hang.
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But, you know, some nights you go and you go, oh, it s not tonight.
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And then some nights you re like, oh, okay, this is like an old, you know,
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Yeah.
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Well, that was always how it was even back in the day.
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You d go down there and no one would be there.
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There were a few haters.
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Yeah.
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And as a waitress, I d be waiting for eight people so we could start the show.
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So it was fucking rough times.
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But those nights sometimes were like the best.
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Everybody would show up and they re you know, we just hang in the kitchen.
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Well, that s really Holtzman developed, you know, oh god.
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Yeah, those crazy late-night sets.
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I another one.
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I remember him Showcasing.
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Oh, he it s do I did his show when I was here I came in a little bit early and I did his show on a Thursday night and it was the crowd was
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phenomenal.
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They love him.
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And I realized I said something a little like, you know, out of control.
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And then I got a big I go, Oh, this is a Holtzman show.
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Okay, because for a second, I was like, Yo, you re not opening for it.
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Chill out.
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This isn t a crowd that expect.
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And then I realized, oh, it s Holtzman.
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Yeah.
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And I remember him showcasing for Mitzi, and she was passing on him, like not passing him, if you will.
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And he d come in the back and he d crush, like murder, and he d come right in her face and he d be like, was that good enough?
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Was that good enough?
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And she passed him in the belly room That s where she passed.
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Oh, cuz she it was like a whole thing.
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She put him through she really put him through the ringer But it was great and he just I would come in and come in and we had so much fun with him Remember after September 11.
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She wouldn t let him go up for two weeks Because he would bring it up
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Bring it up.
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He was going to open with it.
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Of course.
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He did it with the Oklahoma City bombers.
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Yeah.
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Bombing.
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And he did it with the woman woman who drowned her kids.
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Susan Smith.
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We talked about the night after like all the Harvey Weinstein shit came out.
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I don t know if I should say what I should say.
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I m not going to say what the bid is.
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Me and Adam were in the back like, they re going to lock the doors.
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We re done.
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I didn t see what he said about Israel after October 7th.
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I was not there, but I could only imagine.
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He did not leave that alone.
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No, he didn t.
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He s a wild fucker, and he s putting these road gigs up.
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He s going and doing road gigs, and then puts videos up of people leaving a show.
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It s a lot of people getting upset.
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Oh, it s hysterical.
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It s my new favorite thing.
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Because, you know, I had to deal with it.
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And back in the day, they would walk out, can I see the manager?
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It became a thing.
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I used to fuck with Holtzman, and you d see he s saying stuff, people aren t loving it.
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And I d be in the back, I d be like,
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Can I see a manager, please?
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And he, you shut up, bitch!
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And he d go crazy.
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But it was like a, I feel like Don L, I used to heckle.
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But it was a bit.
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But it was a bit.
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It was a running gag we did at the store a lot.
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We used to do a running gag with Brian, I would say, tell us about your gay son!
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Of course.
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It s my favorite thing to say.
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But people would say it too early.
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Like, not yet!
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No, you gotta wait on that one.
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And he would go, I m proud of my boy.
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Just go into this bit and you just like what the fuck are you saying?
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Sometimes he would add crazy shit to it.
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Oh, yeah, we were at dinner Yeah, we were at Mitzi Shores house art link letter was there who?
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Eleanor Kerrigan and like he put random people in there with bizarro historians And then I remember Mitzi used to fuck with him and make him follow certain people so he would follow Tanya Lee Davis I don t know if you remember her very funny.
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I don t a little person.
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Thank you.
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I couldn t remember the person
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proper term and she d crush right and then she d get off and she had a chair on stage and everything and Mitzi would be sitting in the back Holtzman go up throw the chair down what what kind of shit is it what is this a circus who s up next the bearded woman
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He couldn t handle that Tanya Lee was in front of him.
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And Tanya knew he was doing it, so she laughed too.
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She didn t care.
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But he d throw the chair down and just yell at Mitzi for booking little people.
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And Mitzi loved it.
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She thought it was the greatest thing ever.
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And Tanya would laugh too, so she didn t care.
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She loved chaos.
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Yes, but it was fun to even make it more fun like like a drama.
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Yeah townies walking away like But she knew it was a gag so she didn t care and she s killing it She s still doors, but it s just so funny.
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Like I would love to put them back together I m just like a bunch of years later because it s got to be like 20 some years.
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I ve been doing this 16 years That s crazy
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That s that s legit every when you get over 10.
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It s like getting your PhD.
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Yeah, 10 years is like you re a real comic I cannot it seems like I mean people have done it quicker But you got to be really obsessed and you maybe you have a special talent and maybe lucky too could be lucky But it also could be you are used to talking in front of people like maybe you were an AA Like a lot of guys from AA became really good comics.
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Yeah
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Especially in Boston because they go up in front of people and tell stories about being hammered and all the shit they did So now I gotta find my car But it s hilarious at the same time a lot of really good comics started out in AA Yeah, and so that was like if and also they had a lot of experiences to draw from because they had this crazy life But now they re sober so they almost they had sort of a theme when they re on stage and
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Yeah, that was like a cheat code and I saw some guys get good really quick that way But it seems like 10 years is the number that s a lot of and even then at 10 years you re still Are you any good?
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But you re trying to like sort it out.
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You re trying to figure out what it is that you do exactly I feel like that at 16 years.
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Yeah, it takes a while.
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Yeah, I still feel like that sometimes I m like
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Still sometimes I just reevaluate my stuff and really I love to be inspired, you know Yeah when I m inspired the the key is like acting on that like if I get inspired of someone really funny He s at the club and I see him like that was great.
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No, I want to go right, right?
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But you got to really like go act on that like right while the inspiration is still Why we got that ember?
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Yeah, and then and then go with it, but you know, it s like it
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You always should be fucking with it.
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You re always looking at it and tweaking it.
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Me and Norman were talking about that the other day.
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He s like, does it ever get to Groundhog Day?
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And I was like, not if you re writing new shit.
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It doesn t, because you always get something constantly.
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So there s always some new thing you re fucking with.
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We do a lot of shows in New York together, and I see him at every show.
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If I m at New York Comedy Club, if I m at The Cellar, wherever Mark s on the show, I m like, this is great.
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No matter what, he s still out there.
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I think the night before he did, he just did a big one in New York.
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Not the Carnegie, because that s where I did, but I was with Tice.
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He was doing a big one and he was like, you know, how do I, do I take the subway like a normal?
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And I m like, take the car, get a nice car or something and take it there.
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I forget what venue he was doing, but it was giant and it was a big deal for him.
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And he, he s still at the stand the night before, like doing shows.
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And he s like, well, I ll see you guys after the big show.
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You know, he s so, yeah, he s so down to earth, which I love because you re still out there grinding.
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And I remember one night I was at the cellar and I wasn t, I was mad at myself because I didn t do a newer bit.
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And he goes,
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Pussy.
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I was like, you motherfucker.
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But he s right.
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Do the bit.
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Take the chance.
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He s just always on, too.
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When we do protect our parks, he s just a pun machine.
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Half of them, you can t even address them because they would just throw everything off.
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You d never get a sentence out.
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Just like he just he just he thinks it is such a different way.
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He really is notes are a clear sign of mental illness Unbelievable, those things are insane.
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Yeah, right.
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Well, it s like that the stat you can see in his back pocket I thought he had a booty from one side.
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Hey, man It s all flat on the other curved and swollen
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Wedded on and shit.
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He s been sitting on him for years.
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I believe it very strange We were going from the stand to the comedy cellar And so we all piled in our buddy this guy Greg Stone also hilarious comic and we jump in his car He s got kids.
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So me and Mark were like wedged in baby seats Like we moved them, but we were like wedged and he s like, is this good for you?
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I
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always on and we re just literally on each other s laps like squished in poor Greg Stone s car.
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Yeah, then we all did sets at the cellar after but I was like, I hope he doesn t watch because you know, I don t want him to judge.
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Call me a pussy for not doing my new shit.
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But I worry about because I talked so much shit about comics that s right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, that s why you gotta really make sure you dot your I s and cross your T s.
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Yep.
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So you can watch my special and you can see that I work really hard.
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And where s the special?
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Tell people how to get it.
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It s on YouTube.
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What s it called?
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It s called No Country for Old Women.
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That s a great name.
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I know.
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And it came out March 1st, so it was like Women s Month.
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And I was like, if you don t watch it, you hate women.
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No, I m just kidding.
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Is that March?
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Women s Month is longer than Black History Month.
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Well, we re women.
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Oh, look how they spelled my name.
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No country for old women.
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Do you fucking believe that?
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That s how my name looked?
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Was that on purpose or is it a joke?
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No, they didn t know.
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We had a windstorm the night before and it blew those letters off.
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Oh no.
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How fucking crazy is that?
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That s hilarious.
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Yeah, and I did it in the OR.
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We kept the lights on.
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We did good.
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It looks beautiful.
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Lights look incredible.
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My friend Lexi Shoemaker was the director and she really, you see the light on the bottom of the stage, it kind of brightens it up a little bit.
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There she is popping the cooch.
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Wow.
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the nerve of her to do this.
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It s really good.
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I m very, very proud of it.
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And I love the name, of course, because I love being silly.
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But you know what it is, because we were talking about women, you know, people say if you talk about sex, if you talk
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about this, politics, whatever it is, they do tend to, oh, she always talks about her sex, she always talks about this, she always talks about that.
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Fine, and they always say, you re old.
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Yeah, I know, and I m fucking fine with it.
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I m happy to almost be dead.
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I don t know what else you want me to do.
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People get mad.
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People are just always trying to find some way to shit on you, because you re the person on stage getting attention.
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So I m telling them, I m old, in my title.
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Deal with it, fucker.
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Yeah, deal with it, fucker.
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All right, Eleanor.
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Am I going to see you tonight?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I m excited.
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All right.
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Thank you, my friend.
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You got more things to tell people?
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This is exciting.
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No.
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Oh, the Comedy Store podcast still.
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We re still doing that.
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Nice.
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Comedy Store podcast.
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Nice.
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And hopefully What s Up Doc with Jeff Danish will be back where we watch documentaries and reveal them.
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We have so much fun doing it.
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Oh, beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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All right.
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Give everybody your Instagram.
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Instagram, EJ Kerrigan.
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And I think it s just EJ Kerrigan across the board.
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Somebody else.
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Yeah.
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Twitter.
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TikTok.
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TikTok.
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Go ahead, China.
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Get in there, China.
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Get your information.
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Okay.
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I love you.
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Love you more.
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Bye.