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 Conflict is that so why not create it before that?
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So therapy is the vitamin C. It's incredible, right?
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They're vitamin C to everything.
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That's it So I think it's I think it's conscious energy.
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It's yeah effort, but I think you're right.
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It doesn't just magically happen We need to let that idea go
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 Yes, yes.
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What is the biggest challenge you're faced with today then?
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Because it seems like you've got all these things manifesting from your vision board.
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You've got peace, inner peace.
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You're an authentic 10.
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You've got light radiating.
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Disney show, the book, Be a Triangle.
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You've got, you know, Canada's Got Talent hosts.
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You're like the star everywhere.
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Everything is coming.
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It's a pretty cool time.
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What is the biggest challenge?
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 And even more importantly, what do you think is the biggest wound you have yet to fully face and do the work on to get to the next level?
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My biggest challenge and something, actually my answer is kind of the same for both of the questions you asked, which is in my life, as much as I've done the work to detach from accolades, like I've talked about, what I've not been able to detach from thus far is the pressure of being a first.
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 And in my life, I've been the first in many instances, whether it was YouTube, you know, the first Indian girl doing things like this, the first Indian girl on billboards for YouTube, then the late night show was also a first.
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I get that headline a lot, the first.
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And for someone who hasn't lived the experience, it can sound like, why would you ever complain about that?
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That's awesome, you get to be in all these headlines, you get to make history, you get to be the first, you were the first person to do things.
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 It's wonderful and exhilarating and also horrendous at the same time.
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To be the first is a really lonely place to be because you not only have so much pressure of every minority looking up at you, expecting you to do right by them, which you cannot possibly do for everyone, but you also have no one to turn to.
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 when things get rough.
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Late night being the best example of that, when things got really rough for me, which other female late night host was I supposed to turn to and ask advice for?
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So because that has been a theme for so much of my career, this first idea, it's such a big concept to say, but I've associated my success a little bit with history making.
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 which is a really heavy thing to associate yourself with.
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I have to make history every time I do things.
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I have not been able to, if I'm being honest, completely heal after those types of instances.
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I still, when I think about those things, I feel very nauseous thinking about them.
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I have a lot of anxiety about them.
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From the past things, you've been the first.
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From the past things, and also the fear of it happening again.
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 which is a really unhealthy place to be because sometimes when I have an opportunity that's really exciting and awesome and I'm excited about it, I have a little voice in my head that goes, you could be the first again and it's going to be horrific all over again.
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And that's a very tainted type of evil that's in all things to come.
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I haven't been able to reconcile that.
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So based on this framework,
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 how would you coach yourself if you were stepping outside?
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Yeah, this is great, I love that this is a therapy, thank you, I can cancel my therapy session tomorrow, this is fantastic.
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Okay, so it's fine.
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Honestly, yeah, how would you coach yourself if calm, peaceful, loving Lily was sitting in front of you?
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What would she say to you with that fear?
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The first thing I would say is, with the relationship with myself, I just finished telling you about how we easily define ourselves.
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I just defined myself as the first, I just did that.
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But if I change that wording from you're not the first,
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 You are someone that loves to try new things and then you get put into a circumstance where it's unfamiliar territory.
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I can actually empathize with that person a lot more.
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So already that feels better to me.
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You're not the first, you're someone who tried something new and got on this path and now it's unfamiliar so allow yourself some grace.
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 With my relationship with the universe, I would say that, hey, the universe has provided an opportunity to you, right?
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So yes, it's scary, but it's also an opportunity, and you should focus on that part of it, you know, because this will be an exchange in some types.
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You will gain something, no matter what it is, you will gain something from everything.
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The worst heartaches in life, you will still gain something from them, so I will remind myself of that.
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 Understanding distraction will play a big role here because all the reviews and comments and people putting pressure on me are actually distractions from what my actual goal is, which is to do something cool and try something new and do my best and find fulfillment.
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So all these things people are saying are actually irrelevant.
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Of course it might mean a lot to them, but I actually do not owe to anyone to make history for them.
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I can only talk about my own experience.
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I can't talk about theirs.
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So I have to like,
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 take away the permission I've given them to tell me what I should be doing in this situation.
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And then implementing design, this can get real real.
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Oh, this intense new cycle is going to happen?
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I'm not going to see it.
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 I'm not going to put myself in the position to hear these things or be in those rooms where those intense conversations happen.
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I'm going to remove myself.
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Or implementing design is also, okay, I actually want to really do well in this situation.
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How can I build the best possible scenario where this thing is fun and I can actually enjoy it?
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So that's how I work through it.
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Did I just do it?
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I think I did it.
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I think I just did it.
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That sounds peaceful to me.
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 Wow, the first one really hit me, the taking away the definition of first.
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That one really hit me.
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Yeah, because it sounds like I've been hearing you putting this identity on yourself, this label for years of I've always been doing the first and the pressure, the weight, the identity that you've held onto.
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Seems like that's not serving you, that identity.
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 You're right, because when people call me the first, they're also giving me that identity without giving me context.
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Not only are you the first, but you're going to be doing something no one else has done.
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You're going to be trying something new.
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It's going to be scary.
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You know how lovely it would be if in an interview someone said, I'm sure it's really scary to be the first, and I'm sure you're going to be trying new things.
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And like, tell me about that.
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But no one ever asked that question.
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No one ever asked it in that context, because I'm not given the context.
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 Sure, sure.
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That seems like a good framework though.
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This framework works.
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We're testing it live, it's working.
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I love it.
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Is there any other fears you think you'll need to?
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The great thing about life is life is so creative.
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The universe is so creative.
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You know when you were younger and you're like, oh my God, I lost my best friend, this is the worst pain I could ever feel, and then the universe was like, hold my beer because I'm gonna introduce you to 17 more things that are painful?
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Humans always think what they're going through right now is the most painful thing ever.
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 But the universe is very creative.
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The universe will come up with new ways to both gift you and torment you.
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And so the goal is to build a framework that can last those things, even the ones you haven't met yet.
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And so I'm sure there'll be many other fears that I haven't even thought of yet.
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But the more you implement this framework, the more, I guess, resourceful, the more confident you'll be with any new challenge that comes your way.
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Absolutely.
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 That's beautiful.
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I want people to get the book.
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Get the book.
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They can go to lillysinghbook.com, also just anywhere on social media, follow at Lily, and get a few copies.
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I love this type of book, I told you before, because it's short.
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It's short and sweet.
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And for someone like me that can't read that long.
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It has illustrations also.
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It's got pictures, I feel like I'm seven years old again, it's perfect.
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 And it's speaking about real life, which I think is really powerful.
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So make sure you guys get a few copies, not just one, but this is one where you get like three, five, 10 copies and give them to all your friends.
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You can read this in a day.
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For me, that might take me a couple weeks, but most people can read it in a day, and I think it'd be a great book club for you and your friends.
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So get a few copies of this book.
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LillySinghBook.com, at Lilly pretty much everywhere.
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How else, before I get to the final two questions, how else can we be of service to you?
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 Well, first of all, you're already been of service to me.
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I want everyone listening to know this, that I literally emailed Lewis about this yesterday.
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I literally was like, I would love to be on the podcast, talk about the book.
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And now I'm sitting here in your studio today.
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So you've already been of service.
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I'm sure you uprooted your schedule.
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I'm sure you made a slot happen.
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You've always been so supportive.
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So you've already been of much service to me.
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And your exact response to my text was so excited to support you.
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So I want all your listeners to know you're a fantastic human being.
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Of course, I got your back.
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 I mean, people, besides the book, they can watch, tell me what else is going on.
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They can watch the movie.
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Yeah, I'm part of an animated movie called The Bad Guys.
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It's a DreamWorks animated movie.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's coming out April 22nd in theaters, so that's gonna be really fun.
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If you have any Canadians listening, I'm a judge on Canada's Got Talent, which is every Tuesday on City TV.
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Yeah, I'm gonna start shooting this Muppet thing.
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I just did a TED Talk recently.
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I guess that's kind of cool.
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I saw that.
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It was awesome.
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I'm doing a few things.
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You know, I'm trying to stay busy.
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A few things.
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Are you still doing consistent YouTube right now, or is that kind of like?
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 No, I am not.
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I mean, I am going to release a really cool video I'm passionate about related to the book.
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Cool.
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But I am not consistently making YouTube videos for the sole purpose of... Your mental health, probably.
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Making them that frequently is not fun for me.
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Yeah, it's not.
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And I don't find fulfillment in that anymore.
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Yeah.
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It served you for a season, but not this season.
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 I like to do things sporadically here and there.
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I could post a video, but the whole creativity on demand is no longer fulfilling for me.
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Yeah.
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Okay, cool.
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I asked you this last time four years ago you were on the show.
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I asked you this question.
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It's called the three truths question.
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You probably don't remember it, but I'm going to ask it again.
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I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday.
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And I have your answers here.
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Oh, dang.
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So I'm going to see if they're the same or what has changed in the last four years.
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I love this.
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 So this is a hypothetical scenario.
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Imagine it's your last day on earth.
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You get to live as long as you want, but eventually you gotta go to sleep, right?
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For the long haul.
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And you have this vision board every year that is just manifesting.
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Everything comes to life.
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Anything you want happens.
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You accomplish.
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 Peaceful, love, fulfillment, all these things are great.
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Health, but one day you gotta go and you gotta take everything with you.
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Or no one has access to your content or your information anymore.
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All your videos, all the Disney shows, the books, for whatever reason, it's gone somewhere else.
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But you got a piece of paper and a pen and you get to write down three lessons you would share with the world.
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Three things you know to be true.
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And this is all we would have to remember your content by.
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What would be those three truths for you?
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 One, I would say, is much of my content can be defined by being a disruptor.
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I think that is my purpose on this planet.
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I'm very clear on that, is to disrupt things.
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So I would say don't be afraid to look at the mold and break it into pieces and do things the way that are right for you, not the way someone told you to do them.
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I would also say that you shouldn't take life so seriously.
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And that's what the power of comedy is.
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A lot of my videos are taking my traumas and pains and making fun of them.
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 You know, and I think we should be able to laugh at ourselves and we should never get to a place where we can't laugh at ourselves.
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And then I would say that we are doing a disservice to ourself if we are not showing stories that actually
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 showcase what the world is like.
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And I know representation is kind of a fluff word and a buzz word at this point.
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Representation, what does that actually mean?
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It means that there should be stories for everyone and not every story has to be about everyone.
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But there should be stories for everyone.
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Everyone should be able to look at something and be like, I see myself in this and now I can kind of understand myself better and I can understand others better.
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We all deserve that type of medicine I feel in life.
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 Not every story is for everyone, but there should be.
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There should be stories for everyone, although not every story has to be for everyone.
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Yeah, OK.
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Because I feel like we also criticize stories a lot, because like, well, that's not my experience.
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It doesn't have to be your experience.
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It's someone's experience.
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And everyone should be able to look at someone and say, that's kind of me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, if people want to know the other three truths you had, we'll have it linked up so they can go watch it.
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OK, amazing.
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 because you had three different things.
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From here and that last side, which is interesting to see just kind of where you're at in your life.
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Yeah, evolution, that's cool.
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That's a cool thing you do.
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Look at you in your awesome podcast doing cool things.
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We're having fun.
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Good on you.
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We're having fun.
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Before I ask the final question, Lydia, I want to acknowledge you for the incredible growth that you've had, for the journey you're on, because I think it's really easy for a lot of people who have built a following, success and accomplishments,
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 to not look within and do deeper work because things are working on the outside.
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And they're getting recognized for the things they've been doing for so long.
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But the fact that you were struggling on doing this book multiple times for however long and said, something's not working on the inside fully, what is that and how can I heal and transform and go beyond that?
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I think it's really beautiful.
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So I really acknowledge you for the growth, for the work,
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 for diving in on yourself and going from a 2 to a 10.
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I think it's really powerful.
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I think it's hard for a lot of people to be at a 10 these days or even like a 7 through 10 range on average.
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So the fact that you were doing that work I think is really inspiring and it's a beautiful representation
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 of what's possible for people when they accomplish something externally as well.
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There was a quote I think I saw you post on your Instagram recently that was like, you wanted your life to be identified more on your potential rather than your pain.
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Isn't that right?
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Yeah.
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It was about how going back to relationship with yourself and how we define ourselves.
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If you don't have a clear idea of who you want to be, you often define yourself by pain.
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 your past pain.
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It's why when people would ask me, tell me about yourself, my answer would be, well, you know, I've had some mental health struggles.
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I had a rough childhood.
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I instantly gravitated those types of answers because I've defined myself by the pain because the potential of who I could be is quieter than the pain in my brain.
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And so I, the quote was that pain often screams louder than potential in our minds.
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 And I don't want to be that person.
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I respect and acknowledge and see all of those painful things about me, and I'm not trying to erase them.
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But what I'm trying to say is that while they are part of who I am, they don't need to define me entirely.
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When someone asks me, tell me about yourself, I want to say, well, I'm going to create great things, actually.
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I'm going to create things that change the world.
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And I want to answer like that.
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 with potential rather than pain.
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We always define ourselves by our struggles, usually.
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And those struggles are beautiful, but we're also more than those struggles.
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Yeah, that is beautiful.
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I love that.
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I'm gonna start doing that more as well.
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My final question for you, Lily, is what's your definition of greatness?
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 someone who actively puts the work into discovering their purpose.
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Whatever that purpose is, I don't care if it's making great ice cream or changing the world.
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Whatever your purpose is, you put the work into learning why you're here and what you can uniquely offer.
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I think that is greatness because I think people should impact the world in only a way they can.
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But so often we don't put the energy into figuring out what that way is.
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Really, appreciate you.
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Always appreciate you.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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 Thank you so much for listening.
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I hope you enjoyed today's episode and inspired you on your journey towards greatness.
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Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's show with all the important links.
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And also make sure to share this with a friend and subscribe over on Apple podcasts as well.
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 I really love hearing feedback from you guys, so share a review over on Apple and let me know what part of this episode resonated with you the most.
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And if no one's told you lately, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.
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And now it's time to go out there and do something great.