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Hey folks, it s Lyle.
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All right, let s get into the episode.
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Well, hello.
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Hello.
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How are you, man?
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Oh my gosh, I am well, actually.
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I am surprised you called.
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I was listening, I heard you say holy shit, and here I am.
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Well, yeah, so, um, I got a message.
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So for some context, uh, to those who are listening, um, I got a text on the GECK line, um, from you saying, hey, I m the bounty hunter that ran over the rocks almost crashing while listening to you.
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So context to that, there was this video that I kept getting tagged in on Instagram and TikTok of a dude who like crashes his car running over a bunch of rocks.
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And it s some like viral car crash video.
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And in the car, he s listening to this podcast.
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I wouldn t I don t know where people could go to watch this video or what they can Google but anyways I kept getting tagged in this video and Now I m talking to you Yeah, no, it s super dope so I posted it on my Instagram because I run a run a small channel of all the bounty hunts that I do kind of like patty mayo, but real stuff and So I was
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Uh, out hunting for a person, listening to your podcast, it was like, oh, probably one in the morning, pitch black, taking the canyon on the way home.
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And these rocks jumped out from nowhere.
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And ironically, the best timing was after I crashed over them, you said, and that s the best you can do.
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And that s how it ended.
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I was like, well, that s the best I can do right there.
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Now, I got to say this in the video, and I don t, I don t know where we ll put it.
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Maybe we ll link it in the episode description or something, but in this video, it kind of looks, you got a lot of negative comments on the video because it kind of looks like you crashed the car on purpose.
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Well, hear me out.
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So here s what happened.
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Um, so I just spent the entire day, maybe 18 hours searching for this guy.
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And I did catch him.
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But after that, it was really late coming back.
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And my defense is the camera, in my defense, sees better than my vision.
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Because it was dark and my headlights weren t that great.
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And we were coming around the curve.
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And then all of a sudden, there s the rock.
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But you re right.
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People commented on that video.
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And it was just nonstop negative, negative, negative.
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Now really quick, I gotta say this.
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What s your name?
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My name s Jamie.
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Jamie, it sounds like you re driving right now.
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Ironically, I am.
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Are we about to see another video online of you talking to me while you crash a car?
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No, I was actually on my way to work.
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I do another job at night as well.
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So I m on my way to work right now.
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Okay, so what s this channel that you do because I didn t look through the whole channel.
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I just saw this one video Yeah, so the channel you can find it on Instagram and all the other platforms.
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It s the same thing It s a it s a bounty vault like a vault of bounties, but it s a bounty vault And what do you what exactly does it mean to be a bounty hunter?
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Uh, so what I do is I am, hold on, I m going to park real quick.
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Cause I got like 15 minutes.
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I can spend.
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That is a good idea.
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So let s see, let me get parked real quick.
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You re going to get a DU, you re going to get a D U G driving into the GECK Fluence.
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Yup.
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All right.
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So now I m parked.
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We re safe now.
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Uh,
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So what a bounty hunter is, is it is the coined term for someone that is a bail enforcement agent.
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And so what my job is, is someone goes to jail, they can t afford the full, say your bail is $10,000 and you can t drop 10,000 or your family can t, you can go to a bail bondsman in most states and they will charge you 10% of that total bond.
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And the bondsman guarantees to the court under their bond,
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that you will go to court.
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But if you fail to appear, then they send someone like me ask for you and I will return you to jail so you can go to court.
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And that way, the bondsman doesn t have to pay that 10 grand.
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OK, what kinds of things are these people accused of doing?
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Oh, everything under the sun.
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You have everything from your basic driving under the influence, from either marijuana or alcohol, all the way up to your really heinous crimes, where you get your murder and child-related crimes.
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You know, some real, real piece of crap people, all the way down to your innocent, like, didn t know better and got caught up on a bad day.
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Now tell me when you encounter these people, when you finally find them, how do you get them to come with you?
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Do you have like a little, like one of those James Bond net gun things?
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Uh, it depends.
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Um, some of these people I have a rapport with, I ve arrested them five, six, seven times.
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Um, so I just knock on their door and they re like, I say hi.
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And they re like, hi.
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I m like, get in the car and I get in the car.
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Um, but these people, you know, we have to find them.
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Um, just recently I found a guy hiding inside a closet under a pile of clothes.
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And the way I found them was of course I was digging through the closet and I see an arm that wasn t buried very well.
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And so I told him to show me, show me his hands.
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He didn t want to.
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So he ended up getting tased.
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Uh, it took three of us to take him down, but the taser ended up finishing the fight.
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Now,
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Mm-hmm.
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Would you say you have a rapport with these people?
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So you ve used people who you ve literally arrested five times and when they see you they re like, yep Do they not?
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Yeah, how did I mean after five?
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Here s the thing though?
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Okay after five times Is it like they ve been sentenced and released five different times over the course of however many years?
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No, this is so let s say let s the simplest one a DUI and
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You go to jail, and you get bailed out on DUI.
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You just never went to court to go deal with your charge.
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So then I go f*** you back up, and then your family bails you out again on the same exact charge, and you re just waiting to go to court.
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And then you miss again, and then I show up, and then you miss again, and then I show up.
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And it s just a rinse, lather, repeat type of situation for some of these people.
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They don t know how to stay out, but they don t want to deal with it.
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Why do you think they don t just like show up for, I mean, if they know that they re gonna get caught, why do you think they keep missing the court date?
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I don t know.
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I think it s, you know, the whole play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Some of these people just, they don t go.
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I don t understand it.
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There s some people that they re court, they literally have court the next day after we bail them out.
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And I m showing up in two days after bailing them out because they chose not to go to court the next day.
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And they could have avoided the whole situation.
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How long have you been doing this for?
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I ve been doing it five years.
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And what were you doing before?
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Before that, I was a school security guard as well as a U.S.
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Navy reservist.
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Okay.
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Which of these things has been the most difficult?
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Schools.
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Out of all of it, dealing with the adolescent children that hormones are pulsing through and
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the, uh, them not wanting to listen.
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Why, what made you want to go into this line of work where you have to like, uh, you know, uh, handle people who are fucking off?
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Um, well, I would be lying if I didn t say I eat adrenaline.
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Um,
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It is definitely an adrenaline rush to go after people.
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My big thing when I was looking at it, ironically, I was watching like Patty Mayo and I was like, I can do that.
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And then I Googled him and then I realized he wasn t real.
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And so I went and figured out how to do it in my own state because each state has their own licensing requirements and my state has some pretty strict ones.
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So I got licensed and luckily I have a lot of contacts in town and I just started doing it.
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Would you ever want to do something else?
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Would you ever get tired of this?
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I don t know.
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That s a good question.
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I m trying to decide if this is what I want to stick with for the next 20 years, because I m 30 now and I d like to retire when I m 50.
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And that all comes down to how much income I can put away in a retirement account.
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And I don t know if I can sustain that.
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How much can you make finding people under clothes and closets?
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Oh man, it depends.
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On a good year, you can make 100 grand.
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On an average year, you can make 50, 60 grand a year.
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Where are you operating out of?
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I operate out of Washington State.
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Oh, cool, man.
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Now, have you ever gotten into trouble?
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Have you ever been to jail or anything like that?
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Nope.
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I am a goody two-shoe.
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I don t like breaking rules.
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And I don t think I d survive in jail now, because I d put people there.
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Would you like run into a guy who you put in jail and he would just fuck you up?
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Oh, absolutely.
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If I didn t have... I know jiu-jitsu, I know how to handle myself, but if he s got a little posse and he can outnumber me, he s got me.
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You know, I talked to a bounty hunter before.
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I met one in one of my interview sessions that I do out in the real world, and he was actually a born-again Christian who had previously led, like, I guess a life of
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Crime and is now yeah Is now Putting other people in jail.
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He said it was complete he and he told me something He said it was complicated because he felt bad for some of the people he was putting away because He used to do some of that shit Yeah, that s true.
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I know a video of any of your talk.
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I saw it on YouTube and
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What I can tell you, you can absolutely have a felony.
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You can you can be a previous criminal as long as you can put that life behind you.
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And as long as depending on how heinous your crimes were, you can you can still become a bail bondsman or a bail enforcement agent.
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You just have to make sure you can maintain your gun rights, because if you have your gun rights taken away, you can t be a bondsman at all, at least not in Washington.
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Do you have a family?
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I do.
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What kind of family?
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It is a very complicated situation So I am a single dad to two children that are not my blood children But I didn t adopt them either Their their mom is Not a hundred percent the best and that s the most I ll say on stream in case she ever hears this but
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Reality is her kids now live with me mom s in the picture when it looks good for her So I take care of two kids and then I have six cats and three dogs You take care of six kids No, six cats two kids six cats two cats and six kids.
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That s still that s a lot of things That need you.
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Oh, yeah
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It s true.
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My life is nonstop chaos and I don t know when I sleep.
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Sometimes I sleep, sometimes I don t.
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Does that suck?
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Are you happy with that?
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I m happy with my children.
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They ve brought a lot of joy to me that I didn t know was available until I entered that world.
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Everything I do, every little bit of money I make goes towards their success.
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My life priorities have changed to better their lives.
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How old are they?
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I have a 15 and a half year old and a nine year old.
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15 and a half and you re 30.
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Yep.
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Interesting.
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And they re, and they are your, I m sorry, can you re explain that situation that you were explaining?
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Sure.
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So I, uh, I m into older girls.
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Um, and so their mom is like 36, 37.
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Um, and I m, I m into their mom and
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When we broke up, unfortunately, I learned a lot about her that wasn t beneficial for the kids.
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There was some hoarding situations and not safe living environments.
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And so we drifted apart.
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And as a result, her kids stayed with me because I m the one that has the clean house, the bedrooms available for them.
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I have a safe living space.
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Whoa.
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And like, so legally, are they, are they, are they legally your children now?
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Legally?
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No.
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So I still have to have mom s consent to do a lot of things.
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Um, we re working towards, uh, we re working towards getting a split custody, uh, and that where we re more moms can at least assign me like 50% guardianship.
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We don t know.
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I don t know how that all works yet, but we re moms open to it.
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And, uh,
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And so we still communicate.
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We do a lot better as friends than we did as a couple.
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So they primarily stay with you?
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Whoa.
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I mean, that s a lot.
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So like, damn.
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So they were with their mom.
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And then how long have you been in that woman s life for?
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I have been in their life for nine years.
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Whoa.
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All right.
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So nine years ago and that, and one of the kids is nine.
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Yes.
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All right.
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So you ve been there their whole life.
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So you re like a stepdad, but you re not married to the wife.
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Yep.
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It s a very weird situation, unfortunately.
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And there s a lot of, there s a lot of trauma to the kids of why the,
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The family kind of dynamic is the way it is.
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There is a middle child that was murdered by the second baby daddy.
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Whoa.
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Yeah, there used to be three kids and mom was always into the bad boys.
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And unfortunately, while she was at work, the dad of the of my youngest right now, his dad ended up murdering the middle.
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Holy shit.
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How old was he?
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He, so he was in the womb still.
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And so he, he doesn t know, he knows nothing of this drama.
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Um, but the youngest child, she was, I want to say she was just barely three when she, when she passed.
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Hmm, man.
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So, so, all right.
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So I, yeah, cause I was going to wonder, I was kind of wondering what s up with these kids  dads.
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All right.
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So there were three kids.
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And then one of them was killed by the second baby daddy.
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And then the oldest kid, the 15 year old, where s his dad?
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Her dad hung himself off a bridge two years ago.
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And is no longer in the situation.
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That s why when that happened, I vowed to the kids that I wasn t gonna be the male figure that left them for the third time.
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Jeez, man.
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So you really, I mean, so these kids were just in, in just totally fucked situations and you decided to step in and, uh, and, and yeah, be, be their father figure.
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Yep.
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I wanted to step in and I mean, it started out with like, I was just totally into their mom.
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Like, I mean, you know, midget mom, good bod.
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I was totally into it.
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And then all this started happening and
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The oldest told me she was like, don t ever leave me because I have nothing else.
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And so I made a vow that I was never going to leave her.
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And and the youngest, he knows nothing but me.
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And so I don t want to put him through unnecessary trauma.
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How old was was the was the the daughter when when she said that to you?
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She was 13.
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Just a few years ago Man hmm and how is how is everything going like how often do they?
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get to see their mom versus seeing you like what s what s the custody kind of look like um right now they see their mom so mom can come see them whenever she wants and i ll take them to her as well um mom is actually going to see is taking the oldest on a road trip this weekend um the oldest is going to be in one of her weddings so she s the oldest is reconnecting with her with her biological father s side family
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And she got asked to be one of the bridesmaids for a wedding in the family.
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So she s going to be taking a road trip to go up there with mom.
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So I would say mom comes around.
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I thought the biological dad hung himself.
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He did.
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But on biological dad s family side, the oldest is reconnecting with his side of the family.
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So there are her aunts, uncles on his side.
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And so she s learning all these connections and wanting to explore that side of her life that she never got to.
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Was, um, were you ever married to, to this woman?
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It was going to be.
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Um, and then, uh, we started taking a massive decline.
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I proposed her and everything.
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And,
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I m kind of glad we didn t go through with it because we learned very quickly after the proposal and things started getting really real that we did not do well together in that capacity.
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And what what made you realize that?
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Oh, goodness.
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When when I realized that the hoarding was getting out of control and there was to the point where, you know, glass was being broken on the ground and
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She wouldn t pick it up and I d have to pick it up, but it just like she just leave food all over the ground and it would get moldy and she just wouldn t pick up after herself.
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And ultimately it piled up in her house and it piled up, piled up, piled up to the point where like the kids didn t couldn t walk around barefoot in their own home.
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And it really frustrated me because we hadn t moved in fully yet.
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We were kind of going back and forth whose home we were going to stay in.
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Was it going to be mine?
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Was it going to be hers?
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Because we both equally owned a house.
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And so we were trying to figure that out.
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And the more her home started getting worse and worse, and I tried to help everywhere I could, there was no changing it, if that makes sense.
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Her mind was set on this is how it is.
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Ultimately, she still needs help addressing the trauma that she s gone through.
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She signed off.
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She went to counseling when everything went down with her, with her middle kid, but she went, she did it just long enough to where they said, yep, you passed.
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And then she left.
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Wow.
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Um, how often do you see her?
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I see her.
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I mean, shoot, we text all the time, but I, I see the mom, um, two, three times a week.
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And mainly, uh, to, to discuss matters with the kids.
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Yeah, whatever s going on with them schools getting ready to start so we actually got together and I bought all the Stationery supplies and then she went and bought all of their all the new school clothes and shoes and stuff like that So she helps fight.
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She helps financially.
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She s involved but not Wild so I got a question so
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I mean, if, if she gets a new man in her life, is she going to, is she going to want to like, be like, all right, let me get my kids.
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Let me get my man.
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Let s ride off into the sunset.
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Or is she going to be cool with you still?
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Like, I guess being about that.
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Father, oh, is that kind of an issue?
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It s already a thing.
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And ironically, so she s fine with me being in the kid s life.
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She has told me multiple times that she s glad that the kids have me.
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But, but she is with a new dude and she s pregnant with this dad, with this guy.
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So this is baby daddy number three, or four, sorry.
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There s four baby daddies total.
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This is number four.
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And she s pregnant with this kid, with this guy.
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And I ve arrested this dude.
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No way.
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Yeah, no way.
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No, it s absolutely true.
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I have arrested this guy and he wants nothing to do with me.
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But here s the here s the catch.
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He also does.
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That is that is a fucking.
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Like move.
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That s a movie plot.
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Your ex-girlfriend starts dating a guy that you as a bounty hunter have arrested.
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That s fucking nuts.
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What did he, I want to let you finish your story, but what, what did you, what did you arrest him for?
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I arrested him on a three counts of DUI.
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Jesus.
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Wait, weed DUI or alcohol DUI?
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Both.
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Anyway, yeah, all right, so so she s pregnant again with this dude who doesn t like you because you Fucking smacked him in the head with a baton or something He went really deeply Know what?
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Hey, what s the what s the what s the story there?
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What s what s the drama what s going on?
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Oh, so I
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The mom makes really good money.
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So he is using her as a sugar mama right now.
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It s very, it s a very apparent because he is controlling her money and he s currently on house arrest.
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He s been sentenced.
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So he s on house arrest right now, but is demanding that she pays for things is demanding, bringing him food.
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And he s this dude still lives under his mom s roof on the couch.
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Uh, and all these things he has, he has kids with three other women.
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and has told my kid s mom that he doesn t want the kid, and just to give it to me.
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And I literally put my foot down and said, one, I m not taking care of another child.
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I m not the one that got you pregnant.
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So the mom wants you to just start taking care of the new kid that she s having with this guy?
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No, the boyfriend does.
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The boyfriend told mom, the boyfriend told mom, just give, just give Jamie the kid.
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He ll take care of it.
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Dude.
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Some people should not have fucking kids.
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There should be a license.
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They really should.
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Oh man.
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So, uh, so yeah, so I am in a, the biggest clusterfuck of a relationship that I, I put myself in.
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So it s, it s equally my fault.
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And then I made a vow to the kids that I won t leave.
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And so I m not going to ever leave them.
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And my goal is to make sure that they are as successful as they possibly can be given the way they grew up.
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Hmm.
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So, okay.
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So this is the, this is the opposite of the kind of scenario that I was painting, because I imagined a scenario where she would get with a new guy and then they would be like, all right, let me get my kids back.
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But it s the opposite.
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She s in a scenario with a new guy making a new kid and being like, Hey, can you take this new kid?
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Yep.
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Miles.
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Luckily, I put my foot down real quick on that because she told me that the boyfriend said that.
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And I looked at her square in the face.
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I said, that s not happening.
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I go, it s already happened.
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And I m happy with where I m at.
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But I didn t ask for a third one.
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What was the, I m losing track of the relationships between all these people.
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The mother of the children.
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Talk was talking to you and she pitched the idea to you.
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What was her what was her pitch of the idea?
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her pitch of the idea was he was sitting in the car with me and He and her boyfriend literally texted it to her while we were sitting next to each other and she goes Well, here s what he wants to do after I I found out she was pregnant and all of a sudden She shows me her phone and her phone says just give Jamie the kid and I looked at her and I said no I
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Dude, what a nightmare.
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Jesus.
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Right.
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So I m living the craziest lifestyle as a bounty hunter with crazy living situation, but I own my home and I m happy and the mom s involved as best as she can.
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So I guess there s that.
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What about you?
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Are you going to date anyone?
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Are you on the apps?
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Are you on bountyhunterlove.com?
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What s up with you?
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I wish that there was someone for me.
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I know everyone s going to say there is someone, but I haven t found the time.
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You re optimistic about other people s optimism.
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I don t think that s what people would say.
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I would like to say that I can find someone but I have tried and I have looked and it is what it is.
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And if it happens, it happens.
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If it doesn t, it doesn t.
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I ll be happy with where I m at.
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Yeah, you seem like a pretty happy guy.
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You seem like you re not spiraling into fits of depression and despair on a constant basis, are you?
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No, but I talked to a therapist.
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It s because of your stream that I m on better.
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Okay, how s that going for you?
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You know, it is probably one of the best things I ve ever chosen to do.
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SPEAKER_01
Really?
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Yeah, to be completely honest, I like my therapist.
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I never thought therapy would be for me.
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I thought that I just had to kind of suffer by myself and it was nice to be able to talk to someone and be able to lay everything on the table and be told that
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i m not doing a terrible job that i m actually doing okay i am very happy to hear that i just need to say this i just because i know people are going to accuse me of this i swear on my mother s life i did not pay this man to say this
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No, not at all.
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I would never do that.
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I just know somebody s gonna be like, I ll pay this guy to talk about... No, this is not... This is an organic thing that just came up.
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Yeah, no, it was the best choice I ever made.
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There were so many ads, ironically, there were so many ads in all of your Spotify podcasts that I just decided to Google it and look into it.
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And I was like, I gotta try.
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Did you use the code Gecko?
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Of course I use the code Gecko.
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Such a crazy scenario.
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And so your oldest is in high school right now?
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Yep.
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She starts 10th grade.
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Is she doing okay in school and shit?
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She, you know, she is so freaking smart.
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Um, like wickedly smart.
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She s an all honors student.
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Um, she gets A s and B s like nothing.
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She s also in the junior, uh, the JROTC program.
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So the junior military program.
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And she is just wickedly smart and it pisses me off because there ll be times like I m trying to do something and I never thought I d have to go to her and ask her, how do I do this on my iPhone?
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Or what s the answer to this question?
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And she just knows it off the top of her head and makes me feel really old and dumb sometimes, even though I m not old and I know I m not dumb, but it s crazy just how smart she is.
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I can ask her anything and she just knows the answer.
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What s funny?
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Cause I mean, 30 is so young and, and like, you know, you guys are really not like, oh, you re very, you re very young for a father figure.
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Right.
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Well, and especially for her, I get confused, uh, to be, to being her brother a lot more than I do being stepdad.
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And I understand the confusion and,
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It s something that her and I have had to work through.
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I don t get that with her brother because obviously he s a lot younger.
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But a lot of people don t understand that I was much my my interest was very much so into the older woman and resulted in her having a family that I became a part of.
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How did how does she feel about the convoluted nature of her situation?
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Oh, my oldest?
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Yeah.
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Some days, she just explains it like that I m just stepdad, and that s what it is, and people just don t bother her with it.
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Other times, she uses me as a bragging right because I m a bounty hunter.
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And it scares the boys away, the ones that she doesn t want around at least.
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And then other times she gets frustrated because I get confused to being her brother instead of the parent figure.
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Do you think, is she going to, does she want to go to college?
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I mean, I guess it s kind of early for that discussion, but.
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Well, she does.
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She wants to grow up to be a therapist, a psychological therapist for military veterans suffering through PTSD.
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That is a wildly, impressively specific life goal for a 16 year old.
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Yep.
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That s what she wants to do.
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And I want to make sure it happens for her.
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That s beautiful, man.
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That s beautiful.
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And the nine year olds probably likes playing Xbox.
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Yep.
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Nonstop Xbox.
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I have to keep it on a timer.
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What s he on?
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What s the game?
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Is he on?
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Uh, what one isn t he on?
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Um, he is,
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on every game, he plays a lot of Roblox and a lot of Fortnite.
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And then I have Grand Theft Auto blocked because he doesn t need that.
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I m trying to think, what grade is nine years old?
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He is starting fourth grade.
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Okay, yeah, cuz I said I want to say I first played Grand Theft Auto 4 in the sixth grade Which is probably still not an amazing time to play Grand Theft Auto
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yeah that s about when i started playing it um which would be like sixth grade it s like what 11 12 um anyway all right well before we go what s your dude what s your name again one more time jamie jamie
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Jamie what s what s your before we go what s the next for you man what s what are you what s your what s your what s your dream what are your hopes you know what do you are you gonna have anything to you have so much to nav I m throwing a bunch at you but you have so much to navigate and yet you seem happy you don t seem as stressed as I think I would be if I were dealing with everything you re dealing with absolutely you know my
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My big goal in life right now is just to make sure they re successful.
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And that said, I m looking for what my retirement plan is going to be.
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I want to make sure that at 50, 55, I am done.
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And if that means I need to find a more stable career that can be sustaining for the kids and myself and keep my home over my head,
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That s what I m going to do is whatever, whatever benefits the greater good for the kids.
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What are you going to do with your retirement?
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Like if you are fully retired, what are you going to do with your time?
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I m going to sleep.
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Um, uh, I m going to sleep and I honestly, I want to travel.
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I ve been around the world and I want to go back to Korea.
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I want to go back to Japan and visit some of the places I haven t gotten to see.
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What s the, what s, what, what is your net worth have to be before you retire?
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Goodness, well a million dollars isn t what it s gonna be worth in 20 years But I mean they say you gotta take your annual income times how many years And that so I don t know million at least See, I m thinking too, but I m thinking I m thinking I m thinking differently I m thinking like how can I train my body to not need food and shelter so that way I can just retire on the streets, you know Right
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No, you still need food.
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Um, you can live on the streets, but you still need food.
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Uh, I m going to do this real quick.
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Does anyone in the chat have any questions for Jamie?
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Sometimes I ll, I ll, I ll ask the chat for questions.
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Are the kids in therapy?
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Yes, both of them are.
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They are both actively in professional help.
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Someone asked when the kids are grown, are you going to leave the situation?
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It doesn t sound like you are.
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Oh, I don t know.
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That s a, that s a question for the future.
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Um, and how I feel.
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All right.
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Somebody asked, what is your favorite food?
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That would have to be a really spicy sushi.
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Really spicy sushi.
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Well, uh, I hope that you do eventually get to retire and go to Japan and have all the spicy sushi that you want.
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And if you don t, they have some at the grocery store.
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Uh, Jamie, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Um, well, the only thing I would want to say for that is, you know, look forward to all your goals, achieve what you can and leave a better legacy behind than what you currently have.
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Thanks, man.
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Hey, you know what, Jamie?
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I might just go steal a candy bar from a liquor store just so I can see you again one more time.
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Sounds good.
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Good, Lyle.
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Have a good one.
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You too, goodbye.
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Solid conversation with Jamie making me think about what my retirement plan is.
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My retirement plan is I m gonna see if anyone listening to this podcast wants to pay me a million dollars for a used gecko glove.
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Any takers starting?
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All right.
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500,000.
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No.
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400.
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No.
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SPEAKER_00
All right.
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Maybe I ll just get a job at the DMV or something.
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Hello?
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What s up, dog?
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How you doing?
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SPEAKER_00
How s life?
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Dude, oh man life is better now that I m talking to you.
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Holy buckets.
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Oh Wow What s your name?
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What s your name?
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Oh, oh, my name is Connor Connor Connor and before we but I must say we ve met once before When did we you were at Bonnaroo?
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SPEAKER_01
You re at Bonnaroo and then after you re set there you went behind and someone was like I play you a song and you were dancing and
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I walked up to you and I said, can I get a picture?
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And you re like, yes.
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And we hugged and you re like, what s your name, man?
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And I was like, I m Connor.
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And that was the first time we met.
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What did I say after that?
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You were just like, nice to meet you, man.
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And I was smiling so big.
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In the photo that someone was like, it s Christmas for him.
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And I was like, God, man, normally, normally, if I m walking around at a festival, and I m in my gecko costume, and somebody asked me for a photo, I ll look at them.
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And I ll go like, does it?
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Don t you see that I m fucking busy, and I ll shove them into the ground.
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So I m glad you re not one of the people that I did that to.
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Oh, me too.
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Me too.
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Um, Connor, Connor, you texted me.
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You said, um, you said the biggest choice of my life is in the next two weeks.
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SPEAKER_00
What s up with that?
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So, so yes.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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So let me precursor this.
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So I m in law school, right?
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and I m in my third year of law school.
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It s coming to an end, my last year of college, then getting thrown to the wolves into the real life, right?
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SPEAKER_01
And so last summer, I interned and I m going to law school in North Dakota.
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And last summer, I interned at a place in South Dakota.
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And the place in South Dakota liked me so much that they offered me a job.
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But
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I go to school in North Dakota, all my friends are in North Dakota, and when it comes to, like, law and stuff, wherever you decide to work, like, that s where you re at, because you ve got to take an exam called the Bar exam, and it s state-specific.
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So if I were to choose South Dakota, I d be like, oh, peace out, all my friends who I ve made over the last three years and all my connections kick rocks.
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But if I choose North Dakota,
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I m like, Oh, peace out this nice job offer that I was offered kick rocks.
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I don t want it.
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And then I d have to like, do the whole application and interview process and all that stuff in North Dakota when it s kind of nice, just, you know, the offers already out there, you know what I m saying?
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Take com- First of all, I need you to take comfort in the fact that you re fucked either way.
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Because no matter what, you have to live in either North or South Dakota.
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And that should be comforting for you.
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SPEAKER_00
That should make the decision less difficult.
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SPEAKER_01
Yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_01
Um... How old are you?
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I am 24, but in a week and a half, I ll be 25.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay, cool, man.
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And where are you calling me from?
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North Dakota?
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Grand Forks, North Dakota.
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Shout out UND, baby.
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All right.
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SPEAKER_00
And you re in school right now?
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What are you doing right now?
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SPEAKER_00
School?
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SPEAKER_01
So I m in my last year of law school.
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So I already have an undergraduate degree, which is four years of college.
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And now I m on my third last year.
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It ll be my fifth.
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Seventh year of school of higher education and then I m done.
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SPEAKER_01
Cool.
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SPEAKER_00
Cool.
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Cool.
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SPEAKER_00
Cool.
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I kind of need to figure it out.
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And the reason I only have two weeks is because the job offer in South Dakota gave a deadline of August 31st to accept it.
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SPEAKER_00
Do you have a job offer in North Dakota?
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SPEAKER_01
I do not.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know this universe.
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SPEAKER_00
How rare are job offers?
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SPEAKER_01
You know, I don t know.
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I don t know because I ve just been in college my whole life.
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SPEAKER_01
I really don t know how rare job offers are.
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SPEAKER_01
I mean, it s my first and only one, I guess.
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SPEAKER_00
All right.
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SPEAKER_00
Can I ask you how much money the South Dakota job offers for?
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, you can.
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You can.
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SPEAKER_00
South Dakota where the cost of living is pretty low, but it s 70 G s 70 G s can get you can get you You can get you a hell of a 7-eleven run in South Dakota.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh Oh, yes, it could get me to a live gecko show hmm hmm, well it won t because I m never stepping foot in South Dakota, but
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SPEAKER_00
Bet why can t you so all right so wait a minute, so have you been on indeed or LinkedIn or or?
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Any of those other, but have you have you?
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Reason because it sounds like you want to live in North Dakota because you have friends and connect you have a your life is In North Dakota, and you do you like your life I?
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Yeah, I like my life.
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It s a pretty good life.
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SPEAKER_00
All right.
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SPEAKER_00
So is this so is this decision to take a job in South Dakota?
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Is it out of a mind?
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Is it out of a scarcity mindset that you will not be able to find the job in North Dakota?
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That s that s in the field of law.
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Almost scarcity and also like like I almost like my confidence in myself to get more job offers.
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It s not very good, like interviews and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01
I m not really an interview guy.
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SPEAKER_01
I feel like I m more of a get to know me type guy, you know, rather than like a 30 minute hour meeting.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, that was, you know, so it s really the fear of going through the whole process again.
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SPEAKER_00
Let s step back, Connor.
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What makes you happy?
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What s making you happy in life right now?
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Oh, what makes me happy?
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What makes me happy?
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That is a great
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You know, I do enjoy time with my friends.
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I play video games.
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SPEAKER_01
I like concerts, but on a day-to-day thing, I really don t know what makes me happy.
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okay because there s there s um i m thinking about this in several ways there s this whole idea of uh leaving your comfort zone and going to a new place evolves you as a human being which is something i i believe in a lot but you re also going from north dakota to south dakota so that s not
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the most... I don t know if you re going to have an eat, pray, love experience down in South Dakota that will evolve you as a human being.
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But it could evolve you as a human being in other ways because you re now challenged to make new friends.
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You re challenged to put yourself out there, right?
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Yeah, and the dude, and like South Dakota, like the dude from The Reverend, that movie Leonardo DiCaprio acted in,
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Like he s from South Dakota that happened.
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And so like, it s got cool things like that.
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And the Corn Palace, I think is down there.
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Moving to South Dakota, because it s where the Revenant takes place.
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And that s where the Corn Palace is.
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That s an that s a terrible reason to move there.
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That s also fair.
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I honestly think a job is a terrible reason to move to South Dakota.
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Sorry for the... There s somebody in South Dakota who s listening to this that I m upsetting.
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No, no.
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One of the 20 of them.
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And also, okay, you mentioned too that if you move down there that
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You, if you take the bar, that s like where you re settled at, right?
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Because you can t, you have to- Forever.
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Forever.
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Yeah, for like a half decade.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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All right.
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And you don t want to move there?
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You know, I m fine with moving there.
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I m fine that like, like moving s not the issue.
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You know what I mean?
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It s just like the people, you know, I, I, I m fine with moving there, but I m not fine with leaving my friends too, you know?
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Yeah, sure, man.
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Well, what have you even... Let s say you had two job offers for the same amount of money, and one was in North Dakota, one was in South Dakota.
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You d take the North Dakota one, right?
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I think I would, actually.
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You think you would?
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What do you want out of life, Connor?
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Are you trying to expand your social circle and life experience outside of the Dakotas?
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Or are you really happy diving deeply into the existing social circle and existing experiences that you have?
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It s an important question.
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You know, I know it sounds kind of vanilla, but almost the latter.
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Because when I was younger, I m 25.
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But I used to, like, want to venture and, like, be, like, a private practice attorney and get a boat or something.
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But now I just kind of want to be, like, a humble, like, law professor who, like, goes hiking in the summers.
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Okay.
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Go on and- I don t- I- I- This is a tough question.
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Go on Indeed.
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Go on fucking LinkedIn.
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Go see what s- Go see if you can get a job in North Dakota.
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okay okay so maybe so maybe just you know let that 31st deadline slide a little bit maybe i would say look i m not i can t tell you what to do because yes no of course of course i can t tell you i can t tell you what i can t tell you what to do but i can tell you have some have some confidence in yourself that you re good enough at what you do that you can you can you ll be okay okay
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Okay.
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You know that, you know, my mom tells me that same thing all the time, but for some reason coming from therapy gecko, it just sounds, it hits way more home.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Confidence in myself.
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Don t just settle on the first job offer that was floated at me.
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Okay.
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That s what I m taking from this conversation.
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Okay, and and I just want you to know if You fuck up your life because if anything I told you Remember that your mom said remember remember Remember that your mom said it to you first, so blame her not me Is there anything you want to say to the people of the computer before we go oh man people of the computer just
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keep keep keep being you and you if you re part of the therapy gecko family you re probably a pretty chill person and thank you guys for listening to me and thank you Lyle for taking my call it s it s it s been an honor it s been you know what fuck it man it s been an honor talking to you too um good have fun in the Dakotas man go uh go for a walk hell yeah i will and
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You, I know you probably have a PR team or something, but I m gonna send you that picture of me and you at Bonnarill.
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And whether or not you actually see it or not.
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Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean, what do you mean I have a PR, like send it to my Instagram?
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Yes, I m gonna send it to your Instagram.
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I do not have, I think people think I have like a guy or something.
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It s me, I m looking all that shit.
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Well, hopefully you see the picture, and I will, and I ll enjoy the rest of your stream tonight.
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Alright, thank you, Connor, you have a good night.
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Thank you, you as well.
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Hey guys, it s Lyle here.
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They also get bonus episodes, recordings for my live shows, members-only streams, and they support my ability to keep doing this show for a long time,
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Alright, let s do some ads.
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Call from Jules.
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Hello?
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Hello.
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Hi Jules, how are you?
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Hi, good, how are you?
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Not much.
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What s going on?
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How can I geck you today?
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Oh, um... I mean, what is your preferred method of gecking?
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Uh, well, I ll rephrase the question.
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Is there anything in particular that you wanted to talk about today?
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It s okay if not.
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Yeah.
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No, you know, the one thing that is super on my mind is life after college and how much of a mess it could be.
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Are you in life after college?
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I am graduating in 22.
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Graduated in 22?
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay, and what are your observations thus far?
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Well, it s a time.
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I went to school for theater, so it s not something where it s like, yes, I know I m gonna have something like right out the door, you know what I mean?
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Um, okay, so you graduated in 22 and what have you been doing since then?
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Well, I moved to a new city literally like a year ago around this time.
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Um, I ve been, I moved here because I was, you know, trying to make it as an actor.
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Um, but when I first came here, I started as an English tutor for elementary kids.
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Um, didn t like the nine to five,
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aspects of it.
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It didn t really give me time to really do theater as much as I thought it would.
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And then I got a job at a bakery and not baking, just selling the stuff.
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And I actually put in my two weeks for that the other day.
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And today I had my first training for a waitress job.
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So I ve done a few shows in between that, but
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Other than that, I m just trying to make money, but I m not doing good at saving it.
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And you live in New York?
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I actually live in Philadelphia.
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I m from New Jersey, like close to New York, but I live in Philly now.
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Did you go to school in Philly?
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No, I went to school in South Jersey.
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Oh, okay.
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Philly is a great city, man.
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Are you still pursuing acting?
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I am, yeah.
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Okay, how are you making stuff on the internet?
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No, that s not my forte.
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Okay, what s your forte?
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Really just live theater.
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I m trying to get involved in student films and do some volunteer, non-paid stuff just to get in front of a camera or get on a stage and
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make connections and whatnot and what I what is um like in that I don t I don t know much about the the live theater universe is the goal to like get a get in some kind of like touring show or something like that like what s the what are the jobs in that well you know there s a lot of ways that you people can make it happen um I recently got
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I had a conversation with someone who works for like the national theater children, uh, theater for children and they do tours and like the greater Philadelphia area.
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Um, but.
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It s not, it s, he was the guy that I talked to was like, you should submit another time.
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Cause it seems to get a lot going on.
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Um, I actually like, don t have a specific like goal.
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I just want to do it.
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Cool.
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Well, that s fun.
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That s good.
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That s better than having a specific goal.
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I think just wanting to do it.
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It s better than having a specific goal.
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Because you ll be happier just wanting to do it than being like, if I don t do this then I m gonna have to die.
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Right.
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Okay, are you like... What else are you...
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Any other specific stuff about post-grad life that you wanted to touch on from your experience?
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You know what I m struggling a lot with?
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Since moving to Philly, my biggest issue has been meeting people and making friends and keeping those relationships that I made in college that I assumed would continue after college.
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You know what I mean?
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Where do those people live?
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Do they live outside of Philadelphia?
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Yeah, outside, but where I went to school is literally 20, 25 minutes away.
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So it s not that far.
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And I ve tried to reach out, tried to keep up with it, but it s just not being reciprocated.
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And then I m sitting here like, what did I do to not have this friendship keep going?
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Do you have friends in Philadelphia?
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No, I ve had a hard...
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I don t know.
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I ve had a hard time, I guess, like branching out and meeting people like I live with two roommates, one of them I went to school with and like, I m pretty good friends with my roommates.
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So like, that s a plus, but we all have different lifestyles.
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And, you know, like, our paths don t always intertwine.
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Hmm.
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I m thinking about this.
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I m having a hard time making friends, too.
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I m thinking about.
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It s that s like, you know, I, you know, I joined Bumble BFF, um, and I put in my bio, my sister suggested I do that.
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And I put in my bio, like, I have a really hard time connecting with people over the phone or like through a screen.
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So it d be great to like grab drinks or like get coffee or something.
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And nobody seems like.
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Interested in doing that.
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It s like I got a few messages that are like, I know it s hard but like we can make it work So like I m trying to take the steps to meet people Well, you re in acting and I feel as though there s a lot of different clubs and and
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I mean, why don t you join a fucking sketch comedy group or something like that?
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In that whole vein.
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Yeah, I m gonna give you a specific suggestion.
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I don t usually do that, I usually meander.
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Go get involved in improv and sketch in Philadelphia.
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Go to FIT.
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You know what FIT is?
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I don t know if it s still around.
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No, what s it called?
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Fit, P-H-I-T.
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I do not know if it s still around.
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They might ve closed with the pandemic, but if it is, go check it out at the Philadelphia Improv Theater.
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Philadelphia has all this great sketch and improv going on.
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And it s really just people who go and fuck around on a stage for five minutes and then get drunk afterwards.
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So it s a good place to make friends.
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Yes Go look into that that s what I that s how I made friends when I was in Philadelphia was through stand-up And it was cool because yep because you could go there and there would be it felt like cheers man you go to an open mic and even though you suck and Stuff like you know you know everybody it s fun.
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It s a good time Yeah, there s all these scenes in Philadelphia, and if whoever s listening to this in cities around the world so go find a scene because
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You know, this whole thing of trying to keep up all these individual friendships that are all over the place, it s fucking hard.
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So, you know, try to get involved in a scene of some kind.
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You re in the absolute most perfect place and in a perfect city to go do that.
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So, you know, go on Facebook and search fucking improv group.
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Or just- or sit at home alone and never talk to anybody again.
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That s- there s nothing wrong with that.
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Yeah, you know, that s the easy route, right?
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And that s like what I do now.
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But... The most, like, what I ve- what I ve been telling myself constantly is, like, you know, you ve got to just do it.
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And, like, I don t know, I was talking with my friends and he said, like, if you just show up, just show your face, see what happens, you don t have to say anything, you just have to be there.
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Um, see what the vibe is, you know what I mean?
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Jade, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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I want to say YOLO.
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You know, um, people, people look at the word, I think YOLO has this brand of being vapid, but, um, it s really deep.
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You know what, you know what the phrase, you know, the phrase memento mori means?
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No.
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Remember death.
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I think that s what it fucking means, I don t know.
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But, um... It s like, why is Memento Mori, why is that some cool Roman thing that book people say, but YOLO is stupid.
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They mean the same thing.
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So I m with you, YOLO.
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They do.
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YOLO.
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Uh, thanks for calling, Jade.
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Yeah, it s Jules, but thank you so much.
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Oh, sorry.
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Jules forever!
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That is A, okay.
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Jules forever.
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Have a great night.
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Oh my god.
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I don t have any friends either, man.