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You have to feel safe for your hormones to be balanced.
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That s why fasting didn t work for women to do all the time.
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Because people, the body was like, it s too stressful.
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But cycling fasting works for women.
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Welcome to the School of Greatness.
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My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
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And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
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Thanks for spending some time with me today.
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Now let the class begin.
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Welcome back, everyone, to The School of Greenness.
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Very excited about our guest.
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We have the inspiring Dr. Mindy in the house.
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So good to see you.
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Thank you.
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So great to be here.
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You are an incredible fasting expert teaching people how to burn fat, balance hormones, and live better lives.
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And my first question is,
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I m going to set you up.
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How do we look and feel younger?
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How do we burn the fat that we really don t want in our bodies faster?
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And how do we have the best sex of our lives through fasting?
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Oh, wow.
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We re going to put all those together.
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Okay, let me start with a principle, and then I m gonna answer each one individually.
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So here s the principle.
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We have two energy systems.
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One where we create energy when we eat, and one energy system that kicks in when we re not eating.
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Okay, this is where every diet has ever failed.
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This is where aging starts to speed up.
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This is where you get your libido wrong.
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It s because every conversation around nutrition has only been around what we should eat.
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And what fasting is doing is I m now, and me plus many other experts are coming to the masses saying, why don t we talk about when we eat?
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So when your blood sugar starts to come down, usually around eight hours, eight, 10 hours without food, you switch over into what we call the ketogenic energy system.
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It s also, I like to call it the fat burning system because it s there that your body burns fat for energy.
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We re like a hybrid car.
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And so you switch over, you start burning fat for energy, you make something called a ketone.
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Ketone goes up into the brain, it shuts off hunger, it amps up GABA, so you get a lot calmer, and it gives you incredible mental clarity and insane energy.
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If you never go eight to 10 hours without eating, you will never tap into the system.
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And so you never get that limitless feeling that we re all getting from fasting.
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And so if all you re doing is working with the one energy system, you are absolutely accelerating the aging process.
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Really?
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And every diet is going to fail you, because what ends up happening is you re only focused on food, and that s why we re hopping from diet to diet to diet.
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You know, this is great, then this is great, then this is great.
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So you could eat all the right foods, but if you re eating it too frequently, you re still going to gain weight.
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you could potentially still gain weight.
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If you re not taking at least eight hours of rest, if you re just constantly eating every hour, right, or every few hours, constantly eating, you could gain a lot of fat.
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Yeah.
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So think of it like exercise.
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What would happen if you just kept working out and working out and working out?
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Every day was like a hard workout, a hard workout.
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There s no recovery.
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It s the same thing with fasting.
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You re giving your body a chance to recover.
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And the longer you let it recover, the more healing switches turn on.
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And that s why it slows down aging.
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And you re burning fat in the process.
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It s the recovery that matters.
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Wow.
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But when I go a long time without eating, I feel really hungry.
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And sometimes I feel sluggish or tired at the same time.
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So when is it that we get this unlimited feeling or this burst of extra energy?
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When does that happen after extending the window of not eating?
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Yeah, so the first thing is it s a training process.
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So it s just like, you know, if you re going to run a marathon, you don t just throw on some shoes and go 13 miles.
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You re going to feel pretty bad.
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I did that before.
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And I got the flu right afterwards.
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I ran a marathon without training.
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Well, maybe it was like three weeks of three miles at a time training, but it really wasn t training.
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And I was sick for days, and I couldn t walk, and I had the flu, and it was just miserable.
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I finished it, but my body said that was a big mistake.
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That s right.
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Yeah.
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And I paid the price later.
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Yeah.
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And that s the same thing that happens with fasting, is that people go, oh, fasting s not for me.
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It didn t work for me.
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Okay, well I could say that, you know, that about a training that I didn t properly train for.
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So what we ve got to do is start to slowly work people into this fasted state.
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And usually I tell people you want to get pretty much to like 12 hours in the beginning.
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Can you go 12 hours every day?
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And then you might suffer a little bit, but check this out.
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In the suffering, your body s healing.
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So it s called a hormetic stress.
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You re pushing your body just with enough stress that you re forcing it to repair itself.
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It s the same thing you do every time you go into the gym.
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You re stressing your body so the body repairs itself and makes itself stronger.
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So when you go into this fasted state, around 12 hours the body s repairing.
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Now, what I tell people is if you re suffering at 12, switch back to food and then go again next day.
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Maybe go another 12, another 13 maybe.
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And then when that gets easy, you start compressing your eating window more and more, leaving longer time for fastings.
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So you just didn t train yourself.
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Right.
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And is it better to fast in the morning or at night?
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Because some people wake up and they want to eat right away, but they say, I can skip dinner.
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And some people say, well, you ve got to skip breakfast and then you can eat a little later.
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Have you seen the data on skipping breakfast versus skipping dinner and the benefits for fasting?
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Yeah, this is hugely debated in the fasting world.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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So I m just going to give an easy principle that everybody can grab onto.
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Eat when it s light out.
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When it s light out, you don t have melatonin in your system.
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The minute it goes dark, we get melatonin because we re trying to prepare for sleep.
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So when melatonin goes up, you re more insulin resistant.
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So the meal you eat at eight o clock at night is gonna be stored more as fat than if you have it at five in the afternoon.
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Why is it so comforting to eat at night though?
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I know.
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It just is like, oh, late night snack, you know, extra bowl of cereal for some reason.
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You just trained yourself.
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I trained myself, right?
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Yeah.
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So when I eat when it s dark, what is happening to my body?
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When you re eating when it s dark, you have a little bit of a hormonal dilemma going on.
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Because when it s dark, the body s preparing for sleep.
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And so if we re eating, then two things can happen.
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You re more insulin resistant, like I mentioned, but then your digestive system s shutting down because you re going into what we call a parasympathetic relaxed state.
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So if you go to bed with a full belly, and that food is not going to be digested as well,
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And so, I mean, there s a whole issue, a bunch of gut problems that can happen.
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You can, that food can ferment at night, which now starts to create more like, you know, we can go down the path of candida and fungus and that it s, it s undigested food.
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Whereas if you eat at five, go for a walk afterwards, like you re using that glucose, your body has the ability to digest.
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So yeah, night eating s not good.
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So what did you say, the digestion shuts down at night?
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Is that what it does?
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It just slows down.
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It slows down.
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Let s call it slows down.
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So when you re asleep, let s say you have a meal or a snack or even a few almonds or something an hour before you go to bed.
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Yeah.
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Let s say you ve eaten something.
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It could be ice cream, something healthy, something not healthy.
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And within an hour you re eating it, then you go to bed.
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What is happening to the digestion
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during that process of sleep versus if you were awake at noon and you had that food.
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Yeah.
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So when you re asleep, the body s repairing.
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So the food is definitely not breaking down as easily at night.
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So again, it s sitting there, it s not being digested as efficiently.
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So from a digestion standpoint, better digestion at noon than you re going to have at nine o clock.
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Now, you said something about what if you had a handful of nuts.
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I think what you eat matters.
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I ll tell you something that I will often eat right before I go to bed or at night if I m craving it.
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It s just a piece of really dark chocolate.
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One or two pieces, it helps that craving that you get.
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It doesn t spike my blood sugar because it s really dark chocolate.
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It s not a lot for the digestive system to work on.
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It s more like the big meals that we re talking about.
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That s going to be a problem.
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Something tiny and healthy is not that bad.
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That s right.
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But if you have a big meal an hour before bed, it s probably not going to digest.
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You re not going to get the maximum nutrients out of that.
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Yeah, the digestion.
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You re not going to get as many nutrients.
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You re going to create a real change in the microbiome.
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You re going to see more of that candida show up.
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That s going to give you sugar cravings.
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And it s not going to help you burn fat at night either.
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No, no, no.
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Don t we burn the most fat when we re sleeping?
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Yes.
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Really?
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Yes.
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side.
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Yeah.
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Well, think about what the body is doing when it sleeps.
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It s getting rid of anything that doesn t serve it.
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So, like, there s some really interesting research on, like, at 11 o clock, certain organs repair.
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I know at 2 in the morning, the liver repairs, the adrenals repair.
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Like, your body goes through this massive, like, reboot.
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And so sleep is really important for that.
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Now, this is something really interesting that I ve thought a lot about, and I wish we could reframe this.
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What is fat?
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So fat, all it is, is your body had to put excess somewhere.
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So it put excess glucose, it put excess hormones, it put excess toxins.
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So it stored it somewhere else so that it didn t store it in your organs, your internal organs.
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And when it stores it, if it stored it in your internal organs, your life would be shortened.
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So the body s so brilliant, it stores it somewhere else.
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But we do have fat in our internal organs, right?
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Visceral fat?
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Yeah, we do have visceral fat.
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And we don t want that.
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That s the worst.
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No, we don t.
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Yeah, that s the worst.
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Yeah.
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The body potentially had maxed out the other stores.
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Really?
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Yeah, it went inward.
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Do we store fat first internally in our organs, then excessively on the outside?
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Or is it outside first and inward?
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Yeah, it s such a good question.
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So the three patterns are
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First, when glucose goes up, it will be stored in the cells.
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So to me, fat is a largely stored glucose.
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So it goes to the cells.
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When the cells are swimming and they can t take all that glucose in, then it s going to start to go to the muscles because it s so brilliant.
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The body s like, hey, I m going to go pour in glucose because if we ever need to run from a tiger, I need to have those powered up and ready to go for your survival.
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then if the muscles are saturated, it goes to the liver, and then usually at that point, it s also stored in its fat.
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So it has a system of where it wants to store it based off of your survival, because that s the number one priority of the body is to survive.
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Right.
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So what would you say is the difference was between how men should be thinking about burning fat versus how women should be thinking about burning fat, unwanted fat?
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Yeah.
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Oh, it s such a good question.
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One I ve never been asked before, and here I m gonna make a really bold statement that I don t think a lot of women will love, but it s part of living in a female body, is that a little bit of, we re meant to have a little bit of fat.
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I know, right?
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Like a little bit.
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Right, of course.
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I m not saying like, but we re not meant to be skin and bones.
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Right.
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We re meant to have a little bit of extra fat.
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It s part of, like, the female body.
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And because here s what s interesting.
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Both men and women have, the body has one major thing it s focused on, which is survival.
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But women have two.
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We have reproduction.
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So our bodies always, it doesn t want to be, think about when we re too thin, we bring calories down too much, our cycles stop.
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Right.
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So we need a little bit more padding to make the reproductive system work.
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Men don t need that.
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And if a cycle stops for a woman, is that a bad thing?
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Oh, it s a horrible thing.
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Why is that bad?
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Yeah, and thank you for asking that.
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I will say that one of the biggest ahas I ve had from this book going out in the world is how many 20 and 30-year-olds don t have a cycle.
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Really?
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So this is what women need to know.
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Your cycle is a detox.
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you are shedding the inner lining of your uterus and you are getting rid of what is not serving you.
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So it s not just a troublesome situation you have to deal with.
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Your body is getting rid of hormones, it s getting rid of toxins, it s how we detox.
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It s recycling.
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Yeah.
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It s kind of like a fast.
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It s like a fast.
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Really?
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So a cycle is detoxing and getting rid of toxic things in the female body.
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That s right.
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And it happens once a month, right?
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Every 28, 30 days, roughly?
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Yeah, 28 to 32.
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No woman has the exact same.
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I mean, every woman s different, but 28 to 32.
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Does it usually go in the same time for most women, or when does it line up, and why do you hear that some women in families or friends say, oh, our cycles are aligned?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Does it have anything to do with
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astrology or the moon?
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Does it have to do with what you re eating, how you re sleeping, your environment, your mood cycles, your age?
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How does it all work?
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Yeah, it s kind of all of it.
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Really?
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So here s something that I think women really need to know that is, again, different than men.
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And that s that our bodies are always adapting to our environment.
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Women s are.
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Women s are.
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So if we re restrictive too much with our calories, this is why I taught like a girl when to fast and when not to fast.
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If we re too extreme with our exercise, if we re too extreme with our stress levels, whatever environment we re putting in, our hormones are like
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navigating that and adapting to that.
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And your cycle will change based on that.
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Your cycle will change based on that.
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Really?
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I ll give you a great example.
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I had a friend who had, she had three, at the time she had two kids and was trying to get pregnant with a third.
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And she was struggling to get pregnant with a third.
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And she waited a year to go to this reproductive specialist who had her fill out like
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you know, mounds of paperwork.
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She goes after a year of waiting, she sits down with this guy and he says, I ll tell you how you need to get pregnant.
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You need to stop doing so much.
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Wow.
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You need to stop stressing so much.
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And she was so upset.
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She left and she s like, I waited a year.
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I filled out all that paperwork.
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And then she was, and that s what he told me.
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And she goes, and then I decided to try it.
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And within a month she was pregnant.
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Really?
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Why do you hear this a lot from women who say they can t get pregnant, and then you hear stories of, well, they were too much in control, or they were stressing too much, and the moment you let go and surrendered, then they got pregnant.
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Why do we hear that so frequently?
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Yeah, so if you think about it, if reproduction is a top priority for a female body, if you re under so much stress, the body is like, it s not safe to house a baby in there.
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Interesting.
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The body s always doing the right thing at the right time.
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So if it s not able to have a baby, the first thing you have to ask is, for the female, is, does my body feel safe?
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And sometimes, you ll love this because you re such a mindset expert, I was gonna call you guru, you re a mindset guru.
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If you are thinking toxic thoughts, if you are constantly under, like not dealing with traumas in your life, if stress is really high, the body is always feeling like it s under threat, your hormones will go massively out of balance.
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So your hormones are connected to the way you think also.
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Absolutely.
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Do you think if a woman subconsciously knows that they re in a relationship with the wrong person, they married the wrong person, or they re trying to have kids with some man that subconsciously they know they re not supposed to, do you think that their cycle will be off or they won t get pregnant because they think that way?
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I think it s very possible.
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Really?
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There s some interesting studies.
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I want to go back to the- Because they don t feel safe.
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you have to feel safe for your hormones to be balanced.
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That s why fasting didn t work for women to do all the time, because people, the body was like, it s too stressful.
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But cycling fasting works for women, because you re using the principles of fasting to heal, and you re using the principles of food to nourish yourself, so the body feels safe, and you do that in accordance with your hormones, and your cycle, and the body s like, I m safe, I can release weight.
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I want you to talk about cycling and fasting in a moment, but I think I just cut you off from something you were going to say.
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Yeah, so I wanted to go into the pheromones for a second, because why do we cycle together?
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And then I wanted to talk about one study about birth control that was really interesting.
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So we cycle together, women do, because as crazy as it sounds, we smell each other.
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Yeah, so there s a scent that we give off and it changes our cycle.
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That s how powerful a woman s body is and how it will adapt to the environment it is in.
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So when you smell another woman who has, it ll know when the cycle is happening and it ll sync up your hormones with theirs?
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Yes, but it s when you re like in families and work environments.
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When you re constantly with that person.
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Yes, it s constantly.
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It s not like you go out into the world.
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It s not like you see your girlfriend once a month and oh, we re gonna sync up right now.
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because they re called pheromones.
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Pheromones.
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Isn t that crazy?
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That s fascinating.
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Okay, second interesting study.
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What is the reason behind that pairing of cycles within families or communities?
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Is there a safety thing when you re both in a cycle at the same time?
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That s a great question.
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I always go back to our primal caveman days.
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I m like, why did they?
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Because that s where you can really see, why did we do that?
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I guess men back in the day used to
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spread their seed a lot.
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Maybe that was it.
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multiple women at once.
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It s true.
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I mean, in tribal days, it was like, okay, the man with the most money or the doctor or the whatever, the person with the most resources is able to kind of spread their seed to as many people as possible for survival.
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Yeah, it s possible.
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I think there s something I wrote in both my books called The Hormonal Hierarchy.
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And it works in women because our hormones are more complicated.
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And the hierarchy looks like this.
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Well, you guys aren t simple.
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We re not.
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Are you just figuring that out right now?
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We re not.
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It s so funny.
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So many men say to me, like, you said it.
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I didn t say it.
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And this is why I love conversations like this.
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Let s just, yes, we re not simple.
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And our moods constantly change.
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Well, I think you can be simple when you understand a lot of this stuff, as opposed to feeling like, I don t know how to understand.
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Why am I feeling this way?
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Why am I feeling more stressed this time?
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When we have awareness and we have an understanding of our
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As a man, as our body, our hormones, our different environment, things like that, we feel more at peace.
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It doesn t mean it s going to give us 100% peace, but we re going to feel like, okay, I have a sense of understanding around it.
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That s right.
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I think when women get understanding around their bodies, their cycles, their hormones, like why they re gaining weight and why they re losing weight and all these different things, when they re aware of it,
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they don t have to feel as bad or shameful or anxious or stressed about it, right?
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Yes, that s exactly right.
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It doesn t mean it s perfect, but at least you have awareness.
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You nailed it, and this is why I m trying to open this conversation up so we can all talk about it.
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If you look at what we ve done historically in our culture, is women don t, we don t want to talk about our periods, we don t want to talk about menopause, we don t talk about it.
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It s like a shameful thing that we have to hide.
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And that s now changing, which is really great.
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But if we can bring it to the surface and talk about it, men and women can understand each other, women can understand each other better.
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So it s so important that we bring it to the light.
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So, but here s what I want to go back to this pheromone.
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I ve gone off so many different tables.
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I know, but you ve got me thinking and excited.
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So here s what I think happens is in this hormonal hierarchy, in order for your sex hormones to be balanced, you have to be insulin sensitive.
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You have to have that system right, which is why I think Fast Like a Girl is so many women are getting their cycles back.
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They re getting pregnant for the first time because I help them see how to do that.
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But what s in charge of insulin is cortisol.
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So like we talked about, well, okay, if cortisol is high, you become more insulin resistant and you have a harder time balancing sex hormones.
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And cortisol is stress.
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Cortisol is stress.
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And is stress based on food stress, lack of sleep stress, environment stress, relationship stress, all of it?
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All of it.
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Fasting raises cortisol.
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Exercise raises cortisol, which is why we have to do it differently as women.
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Interesting.
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But at the top of that, all is oxytocin.
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And this is why I think perhaps we smell each other and would cycle together.
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Because women are meant to be in community.
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Because when oxytocin and we re connecting with each other, then cortisol goes down.
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This is why you should always let your gal go out on ladies  night.
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Always.
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Because now she gets oxytocin, it brings cortisol down, she s more relaxed.
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And then when she s more relaxed now, all the dieting and exercise that she wants to do is going to work.
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And when that regulates insulin, now we can balance her hormones.
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So we re just humans in general, but women are geared towards connection.
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Mm-hmm.
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And so what about You know, so you mentioned cycling fasting or fasting while cycling.
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How do we know?
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How does a woman know when to fast and how frequently in a fast?
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Yeah based on their cycle so
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In Fast Like a Girl, I created something called the fasting cycle for women.
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And basically, I walk through the whole menstrual cycle.
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I ll give you the basic principles of it.
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Break it down for me.
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Yeah, and showed women, this is when you fast, this is when you don t fast.
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And then I timed it to six different level fasts.
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Give me the 101 of a menstrual cycle.
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OK, this is going to be great.
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When does it start?
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Or what happens the day it starts versus when it ends?
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Okay, great, and then you gotta go home tonight.
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And be like, this is what I learned.
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Yeah, and let me know how useful this is.
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Yeah, because it s really interesting if more men understood this, I think you d understand the women in your life more.
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Okay, day one through day 10.
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Day one is the day you start to, a woman bleeds.
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A lot of women don t realize that that s day one.
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So you have to use feminine care products, it s day one.
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So your hormones actually come crashing down at that point, and for the next 10 days, you re gonna specifically build a hormone called estrogen.
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Estrogen needs you to be insulin sensitive.
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So keeping your carb load down, fasting longer, exercising more.
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Those first 10 days, a woman can do it then.
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That s when you can fast and exercise more.
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Day one through 10.
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Day one through 10, and that s where keto works.
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That s where the whole low-carb situation worked really well in those first 10 days.
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The other unique thing about estrogen is when cortisol shows up, she doesn t care as much.
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She s a little tolerant of cortisol.
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The other interesting thing for you to know, and anybody who s got a woman in their life, those first 10 days when estrogen builds, estrogen, one piece of estrogen, it s called estradiol, stimulates dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, BDNF, acetylcholine, glutamate.
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So she s gonna be happy, focused, more outgoing, wanna socialize more.
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Really, in the first 10 days?
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Yeah, give her a couple days after she starts to bleed, but as she gets closer to day 10,
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Because usually when it starts, you hear people say a little more moody, right?
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Yeah.
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I think that s because we don t mind the back half of our cycle.
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Really?
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So when I go all the way through, I ll explain that.
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Okay, yes.
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Yeah.
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Because Martha, my fiancée, she really doesn t get moody.
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She doesn t get cramping.
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It s really rare if she feels pain or feels ... She might for a couple hours be like, I just want to cuddle a little bit more or something like that.
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She might be doing this right, though.
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We re not meant to have PMS is because we re going against our natural rhythm.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Bad menopause symptoms, also going against natural rhythms.
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How many women do you think, percentage-wise, have intense PMS?
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Oh, I would say the majority of them.
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But think about it.
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Women exercise the same all month long.
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Women eat the same all month long.
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Women don t think about, oh, progesterone s coming in.
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I maybe need to slow down my life a little bit right now.
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We don t talk like that until this moment in time.
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And this is what, again, another thing I m trying to open up this conversation.
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So we have been trying to diet and exercise and live life very much like a man.
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Right, especially in the coastal cities.
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I m not saying this is a bad thing, but you see women going to the gym five, six days a week or getting up early in intense yoga, hot yoga every single morning.
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It s like you got to get it in and you got to work hard.
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And it sounds like, yes, for a period of the month, but not the entire month.
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Exactly.
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Or for part of the week, but not every day.
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Exactly.
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That s what I m hearing you say.
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Yes.
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Got it.
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And that is so important for women to hear.
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And when I get to the back half of the cycle, you ll understand why.
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But our hormones pulse in and out in a 28 to 32 day period.
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You all have one hormone.
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You have testosterone.
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That s it.
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That s it.
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How many hormones do women have?
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We have, well, sex hormones.
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So we have three, but you also have estrogen, but you make testosterone, it goes up into the brain and converts into estrogen.
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So the conversion happens in the brain.
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So all you have to think about is make more testosterone, and you get it every 15-ish minutes.
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Every 15 minutes?
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Yeah, just pulses in.
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Really?
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Hormones are always pulsing.
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So they pulse in every 15 minutes, and then it goes away.
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And then it pulses in, and then it goes away.
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Naturally.
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Yeah.
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You re highest in the morning.
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Testosterone s highest in the morning.
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Women... That s why men usually have extra sex drive in the morning, right?
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That s exactly why men have a higher sex drive in the morning.
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Right, right.
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And it s a good time to work out.
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Is it the best time to work out, you think?
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Yeah, because you have all that testosterone.
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Energy, right?
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Yeah.
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And muscle building.
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So it s better to work out for muscle building and fat loss in the morning for men than it is at night, would you say?
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Clinically.
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Now, I want to be, because I ve done this enough.
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Everyone s different.
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Yeah, I ve done this enough times, and I know the men will be like, wait a second.
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I work out at midnight, and I burn fat, and I get a six pack, and you re like, okay, well, yeah.
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Right.
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If you look at the rules of hormones for a man, well, all of us, it s better to work out in the morning, because the other thing we both get is spikes of cortisol in the morning.
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And if you use cortisol by working out, you won t store it as fat.
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Right.
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And you feel relaxed.
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You feel more calm.
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You get more dopamine probably from the process of working out.
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I m assuming that s right.
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But if you use testosterone,
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And for you all, when testosterone comes in, if you re lifting weights, you re gonna help build that muscle more.
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We only get testosterone, check this out, we only get testosterone, a big surge of it, day 11 to day 15.
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You don t get it for 10 days?
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Yeah.
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Really?
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It comes in in a big surge, right in ovulation.
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So it s a great time for a woman to build muscle.
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You re going to notice her libido is going to go up.
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She s going to want to have sex more then.
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That one is like mind blowing, right?
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How many men and women are a mismatch?
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And again, this is purely obviously a heterosexual moment, but how many men and women don t feel like they re sexually matched right?
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But yet, do we understand that women get that surge of testosterone in that five-day period?
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That s interesting.
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How do you time that up, though?
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It s like, OK, day one, she s got her period.
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She started bleeding, right?
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And then you think, OK, 11 days from now.
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Let me put a mental note or put it in my calendar.
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I m like, okay, this is gonna be the day, right?
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That doesn t sound so like sexy though, when you think about it.
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Let me like mark this on my calendar and really be aware of when she s gonna be available at the best time.
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Well, so here s what you can do is, I mean, I m not saying don t have sex the rest of the month.
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I m just saying you got a shot, a big shot at that point.
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Like, so just be aware of that.
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Sure, sure.
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The woman may be more aroused.
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That s right.
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Gotcha.
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She might have more desire.
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Naturally.
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Yeah.
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And she can t even control it.
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She can t, I mean, well, the body is surging with the hormones, right?
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Sure, yes.
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I mean, I guess you can mentally block it, but the body is naturally more turned on.
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The body is naturally more turned on.
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Okay, I mean, yes, you can control anything, but I m just saying the body, you can t block the hormone.
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Yeah, I was thinking of like all these, this visual of like all these women like... Women like jumping on men, ah, ripping their clothes off.
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That s right, it s not like that.
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I can t control it.
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It s not like that.
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Yes.
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But the body, unless you, I guess, medically or put some medication, you can t block these hormones, is what you re saying.
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That s right.
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Well, I mean, there are situations like birth control pill has- That s blocking it.
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Yeah, it s manipulating it.
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And you re taking a medication to block.
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It s changed it.
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It s synthetically directing it.
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And when a woman has been on birth control for multiple decades,
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What challenges might come up in their bodies with their hormones?
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Well, this is a big, a major issue for women, especially the younger women, is because it takes a couple of years for the pattern of the brain and the ovaries to get to know each other.
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So if we come in with birth control a year after a woman started her period, there s never an internal innate sense of the body.
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And then we keep women on birth control until menopause, and we take her off of menopause, and now she has a serious hormonal issue because she never learned that pattern.
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Wow.
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So that s one.
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Second one is horrible for the microbiome.
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It decimates the microbiome.
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And you need your microbiome to make serotonin.
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You need it for immune system.
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You need your microbiome to break down estrogen.
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So when you take that pill, and it s like a daily pill for like, what, 10, 12 days or something?
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Yeah, it s on a month.
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It s like half the month?
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Yeah.
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You take it for two weeks?
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Yeah, you have a cycle according to them.
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When you take it, you take it daily for like two weeks or whatever it is, what is in that pill and what is it doing to your gut microbiome?
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And what is it doing to your brain?
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Yeah, well, so it s controlling hormones for you.
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So you re adding in hormones into your body.
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So it s doing the controlling instead of the body naturally doing it.
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Is that good?
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My opinion is no, but we have to really
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think about what the alternative is.
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We don t have any, and here s a question for you.
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I asked my 21-year-old son this recently.
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It s what has become standard for women to be the ones in charge of birth control.
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And when you look at the birth control pill, it is it is an Exogenously from the outside controlling our hormones, which is setting us up for a whole bunch of hormonal problems There s some new research where they re looking for a looking at a pill for a man That would change the change the semen the sperm, right?
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They change sperm, huh?
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Now, would you take it?
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I want to take it.
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Why wouldn t you take it?
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Why would I want to block my body s natural way of being?
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then the same as goes for women.
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Yeah, I m not saying women should take it.
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I know, but that s the, that is.
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And I also, I wouldn t take it unless they were like, listen, there are zero side effects.
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And right when you got off of it, you would be perfectly back to where your body was in sync.
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And your sperm would be just as optimized or healthy or powerful, whatever it is.
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And there wouldn t be, you know, you wouldn t hurt your sperm later.
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Yeah.
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Then I d be like, OK, well, if there s decades of research and this is proven and babies are still OK afterwards, then I d be like, oh, maybe.
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I don t know if I was 20 or something, but it s not something I would take right now.
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So that s what s happening to women.
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Really.
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is that we have manipulated our hormones, and this is why women s health is in a really disastrous place right now.
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So I totally hear what you re saying, and I would agree, like, yeah, your logic is right, but we ve been doing this to women forever.
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Why, I mean, this is probably a whole nother subject, but why is birth control such a normal thing if it s so bad for women s bodies?
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Yeah.
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Why do we do it?
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It s because the alternative is nobody wants to have a child.
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Young.
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A young child.
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What s more painful?
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Hurting your body for decades and maybe a lifetime.
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Having a child young, I get it s a big risk and there s a lot of pain and pressure that could come to that, along with a lot of beauty and wonder and magic as well.
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At what price?
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Somewhere along the line, we decided that the woman was in charge of the birth control process.
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And we didn t think, and I will say this with as much kindness as I can.
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Yes.
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And I m not here to judge people.
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Yeah, no, me neither.
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My sisters were both on birth control for a long time.
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It s one of the reasons why I asked, because one of my sisters was on birth control, I think, for two decades.
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Yeah.
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And she couldn t get pregnant.
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Right.
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And it was devastating.
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For like four or five years, she was trying and she could not get pregnant to the point where she gave up.
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She was just like in tears for months, sad that she wasn t able to have a child.
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And there were some other complications.
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I can t remember the terminology of things, if it was something she had.
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But it wasn t in her cards anymore.
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And she was in her late 30s and she was devastated.
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And then she got off of birth control and just said, okay, well I guess I m not gonna be a mom.
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And then four or five years later, she was able to have a child.
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It kind of magically happened.
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And now she s got an amazing one and a half year old son.
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So it s a beautiful thing now, but it was really scary and painful for many, many years.
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And it was sad to see.
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And it affected her hormones and different things.
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It took time for the body to re-regulate.
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That s it, exactly.
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I mean, you just painted the picture that so many women are struggling with.
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And so when we come in with an outside source to manipulate our hormones,
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when we get off of that outside source, we don t have a natural rhythm.
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And that s honestly one of the things that I m seeing with Fast Like a Girl when I go and read my reviews and see how people are responding to it, is I just gave a lifestyle that allowed women to get back into routine with their hormones.
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So it s awesome she has it now, it took her four to five years, but what I m hoping is that we can use lifestyle as a way to give that rhythm back.
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Right.
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And you said between day 11 and 15, that s when there s a surge of testosterone for women in their cycle.
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What happens after day?
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And that s when they can be working out harder.
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That s when you can go to the gym four or five days that week and push it a little more.
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Well, so day one through day 10, you can do the hard workouts.
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Day 11 to day 15, you get the most amount of testosterone you ll ever get.
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You have the most amount of estrogen you ll ever have.
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and a little bit of progesterone.
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So let s talk about that period because it s a really cool period.
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So testosterone is libido and motivation and drive.
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Estrogen is she s going to want to talk to you.
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She wants to have a call.
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So if you if you if you want to have sex with her, you better talk to her first.
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Because during that time she s got estrogen, she wants to verbally process with you.
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Especially late at night.
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When you just want to sleep.
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Her brain is like on fire.
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And then she s got progesterone so she s a little bit calm.
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I called it in the book the manifestation phase.
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Because I was like, oh we are super our superpowers like we put on our hormonal superpower cape and we could manifest a baby We can manifest a raise we can manifest some new project at work because all our hormones show up then So for those four days, is it just your sharp?
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You re sharper, you re more focused, you re more energized, you re clear, you re goal-oriented during those days, you know what you want to create.
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That s how we should be.
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So women listening that are like, I don t feel like that, I m going to ask you to look at are you living a lifestyle in accordance with your hormones.
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So let s go to your fiancee, who is like, this is kind of her period and menstrual cycle s easy.
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She s probably, if she looked at it, is living in accordance with her hormones.
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She is.
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She is.
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Yeah.
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She s doing amazing.
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Yeah.
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She s got great family relationships, great friendships.
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She s got a meaningful work that she loves.
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She eats very well, very clean.
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She rests well.
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and she s positive and joyful.
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She has an attitude of just gratitude and giving and thoughtfulness and accepting.
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She doesn t hold onto grudges.
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She has a calm mind in the sense that it s not a rigid mind.
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She lets go of things.
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She creates boundaries and lets go of things.
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She forgives people, so she doesn t have a lot of stress and tightness internally.
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I think that allows her to flow.
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And not be in pain or have PMS or be like cramping a lot or off cycles.
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You nailed it.
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I mean, you just gave the formula for oxytocin.
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Really?
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So she gets a lot of oxytocin is what I just heard.
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All day.
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Yeah.
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So it s balancing everything else out.
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Interesting.
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Okay, so that s day 11 to 15.
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Yeah, day 10, day 11 through 15 is that ovulation manifestation period.
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Lifestyle-wise, this is something interesting that I ve been really deep into thinking is if women have the most amount of testosterone then, why don t we use that to build muscle?
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Maybe you ve had them on your show.
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Do you know Tony Horton?
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I know Tony, I don t know him that well, but I haven t had him on yet.
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Yeah, you should bring him on, he s a funny guy.
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So he and I created a program together last year, a fitness program called PowerSync60.
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And we took his genius of putting workout programs together with my knowledge of hormones.
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And so it s out there in the world, you can find that.
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But I brought it to him, I m like, why don t you have a monthly calendar for women s workouts?
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Why don t we have a weekly calendar?
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And so we put a lot of weightlifting in during that time.
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Heavy, that s the time you want to live heavy weights for women so that you can build more muscle.
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That s interesting.
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Okay, so after day 15 then what?
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Okay, so then after day 15, and then also fasting during that manifestation, keep it low, you don t want it really high.
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Eat more foods that support good gut health, be mindful of your liver, maybe chill out on the alcohol a little bit so you can break all those hormones down.
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Then you come out of ovulation and all the hormones crash again.
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So it s kind of like, you ll notice it in our attitude, we have like, we re up, we re down, we re up,
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We re down, because that s how our hormones go.
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So when the hormones go low, you can fast more.
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So that s a time where you can go into some longer fasts.
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You can do harder workouts, like day 11 to day 19.
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I m sorry, day 16 to day 19.
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It s a short little winter.
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You can fast longer.
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So you can go, what, 10 to 12 hour fasts?
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Well, longer is like 36, 48.
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48 hour fasts.
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OK, so during those days, you can go longer.
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You can go longer.
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You can go two days without eating.
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And what do you consider a fast?
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Anything that doesn t raise your blood sugar.
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What can you consume?
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Yeah, so water, mineral water, teas, coffee.
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You can do MCT oil.
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If you want to do butter in your coffee, that works.
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You just need to make sure it doesn t raise your blood sugar.
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So there s actually apple cider vinegar, water, if you want.
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Do electrolytes?
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You can do electrolytes, yeah.
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It just can t have a sugar or a sweetener of any kind.
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Can it have salt, like element tea?
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Element tea is amazing.
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You can do that during a fast.
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Yes.
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Do you know that element tea was actually created for fasters?
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Oh, wow.
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So, the idea was to... I love it.
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I do, too.
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The idea was to put it in water when fasters so that they re getting those magnesium, sodium, and potassium so the body can fast better.
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Interesting.
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So, you can do a few packs of that a day?
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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All right.
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So, that s day 16 to 19.
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And then day 20 hits, and everything changes.
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Is that the end of the cycle?
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Yeah.
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So day 20 hits, and progesterone appears.
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Okay, so progesterone s the outlier.
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She does not like stress.
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So you shouldn t be fasting.
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You shouldn t be pushing your workouts.
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You should slow your social calendar down if you can.
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You should slow down your workouts.
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That s more yoga, Pilates, hiking.
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Make that your recovery time.
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That s not a time to push extreme anything.
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In the book, I call it the nurture phase because I want women to nurture themselves.
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But if we go back to the libido topic, it also can be a great time if you want to connect with the women in your life during that time, foot rubs, kind comments, shoulder rubs, like gentle, be gentle with us and you will get a better version of us.
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I mean, if you do that every day with a woman, you ll probably get a better version of it.
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But that week is the one that really matters.
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If you talk kindly, if you rub it back every day, it s probably going to be a better day.
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Okay, so this is a 20-day cycle, menstrual cycle for women.
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Well, and then you do that until she bleeds, until she starts.
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So then it s 10 or 12 more days or eight days later until she bleeds.
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Then it starts all over again.
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It starts all over again.
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So the women that are having really heavy PMS, the women, a lot of menopausal women that get a lot of clotting when they start to bleed, they have really bad periods, it was the week before they didn t mind.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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So that s, if you bring, and oh, here s the other thing about progesterone.
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You have to bring glucose up.
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So this is why almost every woman I talk to, and I know there s a few outliers out there, because I ll get that question, but we crave carbs.
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We crave chocolate.
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We want to sit on the couch.
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We re not as outgoing, but we ve taught ourselves to push through that time.
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So there s a reason you crave carbs.
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You ve got to bring that glucose up so that you have enough fuel source for progesterone to be made.
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So what are the key steps then during that 10-day period, or I guess really during the whole cycle, to optimize your lifestyle for hormones?
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Yeah.
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Well, it would be in the front half of your, let s make it as simple as possible.
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The front half of your cycle, all the extremes that you wanna do.
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Okay.
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Whatever it is, work, working out, dieting, fasting, typically does better.
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In the back half of your cycle, there needs to be more nurturing and more recovery.
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It s interesting, because you would think, as a man, that when your woman starts her period, that s when you would want to take it easy on her.
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Or, like, make sure she relaxes and chills out.
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That s what I would think.
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Like, okay, she s on her period.
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She s probably going to be moody or whatever.
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That might be the way of thinking.
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But what I m hearing you say is, like, that s the time to push things.
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Like, more than normal.
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Yeah.
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That s the time to, like, get organized, work out, you know, fast.
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and to be more in the drive phase versus the nurture phase.
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Yeah, the nurture happens before.
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Right before it.
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Right before it.
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So like... Days or period starts, like, let s get an action.
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Well, the first two days, give us a couple days.
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Okay, I m just trying to get clear here.
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Trying to get clear here.
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Like the first two days, remember, we went from progesterone really building, a little bit of estrogen comes in, and then our uterine lining sheds.
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Okay, okay.
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So the first two days, we re detoxing.
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They re intense.
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Yeah, those are kind of magical days, like we have access to both sides of our brain.
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So we may still feel a little more inner.
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Okay.
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But on day three, we start coming outward more, and that s when we can push it more.
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So good to know.
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So the day the menstrual cycle starts, when she starts bleeding, wait a couple days until you get things into action is what you re saying.
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That s right.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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This is a good one.
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Right.
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Is that helpful?
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This is very helpful, I think.
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I mean, what else should men know or women know about their cycle?
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I think the biggest challenge I m seeing and why we have all these hormonal problems is that just women need more rest and recovery.
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And it s a really hard concept because... How do you tell a woman that in the modern world today to say, women, you need more rest and recovery.
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You shouldn t be pushing as hard.
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You shouldn t be as driven in certain days of the month.
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And that s not what your body wants.
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Yeah.
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It s hard for... I would think that it s hard for a modern woman
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who is very independent, who makes their own money, who s got a great job, who is in control of their life, maybe a little too much for their hormones liking.
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It s probably hard for them to hear that.
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Yeah, it is.
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And I am one of those women, just so we re clear.
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I m not here prophetizing a Puritan lifestyle.
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I m here saying that what we did to keep up with the patriarchal
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world, which to me just means the power to be at the table with men and to be there where we deserve to be, is we forgot that we do need more rest and recovery.
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So we get to choose where that is.
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So let me give you a couple examples.
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That week before your cycle for women, maybe you don t, if you have a lot at work,
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Then don t tack on a whole bunch a new workout and and really stress yourself working out and don t tack on a fast Don t tack on like rigid diet routines.
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There needs to be something that s nurturing you during that time Don t go out every night of the week.
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That s right
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And if you do that, then you can come into the front half of your cycle, and you re working with your hormones, so you actually will be more powerful.
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I mean, and again, let s just, if we look at hormones, we have three hormones, and these three hormones are making all kinds of neurotransmitters in our body.
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So on a neurochemical level, we re a little more superior, just saying.
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Okay.
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If you are in alignment with those hormones.
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That s right.
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But we ve never been in alignment with it.
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Wow.
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Well, maybe we have in the past, right?
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Maybe primal days.
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Right, exactly.
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So when women are in alignment with their hormones, they are unstoppable.
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Bingo.
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But when they re out of alignment, they re just hurting themselves.
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Absolutely.
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A thousand percent.
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Wow.
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This is fascinating.
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Right?
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But we do everything very similar in lifestyle to men.
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and we need to realize that we are living in a different body.
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So I m not saying.
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A lot of people don t want to hear that though.
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They don t want to hear that.
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So like you could do, it could be as simple as the week before your period, get to sleep a little bit earlier.
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You know, do more yoga and then go to work and kick butt at work.
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But maybe if there s a big project that you re about, that you have control over, could you start it at the front half of your cycle, not at the back half?
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Just goes back to know thyself.
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That s right.
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Know thyself, study yourself, understand how your body, your mind, everything works.
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Be a student of yourself and your health, for sure.
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That s right.
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So there s three hormones that women have, right?
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And there s one that men have.
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Well, one, you have two, because you have estrogen, too.
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It just is made in the brain.
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Got you.
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The main one that s being generated is testosterone.
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And the three for women are?
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Progesterone, estrogen, and testosterone.
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OK.
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What I m hearing you say is that men should fast differently than women.
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Yeah.
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And men, can we fast daily?
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Is there a time where we should stop fasting?
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Yeah.
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Can we do intermittent fasting every day for years?
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Should we take a break, you know, weekend?
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What should we be doing?
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Yeah.
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So again, let s go back to our primal friends and let s think about them.
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So you can fast
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You don t have anything to cycle it to.
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You do really well with fasting, and you just have to have moments where you re feasting, too.
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So let s go, the man comes out of the cave in the primal days.
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He goes hunting for food.
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He s now clicked over.
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Maybe it takes a long time to make a kill, so he s clicked over into that ketogenic energy system.
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He finally makes a kill, comes back home, brings it to the cave, and cooks it up and feasts.
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So if men stay in a fasted state all the time without stepping out and eating, eventually it ll catch up with you.
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So women, we just have to do that according to our hormones.
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Because if we go back to our primal friends, it was around right before we got our period that we were probably sequestered off.
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We don t have documentation of this, but hypothetically, we were probably sequestered off, and we re more in a nurture phase.
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So we weren t out doing the kill.
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Right.
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When you were bleeding, you weren t going off to work in the first few days.
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That s right.
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But probably once, the days leading up to our bleed, then we would bleed, and then we probably went and perhaps joined the pack to go kill, make a kill.
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We re so primal.
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That s fascinating.
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Yeah.
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Now, I wanted to go back to the
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the women having these superpowers and having this kind of manifesting masters when you re in alignment with your hormones.
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What do men and women need to do?
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for their brains to be wired for abundance, hormonally.
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How can we wire our hormones to be connected to our brains to see the world differently, to make better decisions, and to attract opportunities, abundance, and good things into our life better?
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Oh, I love this question.
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That was so good.
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Well, let s start with women.
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For starters, we do exactly what we ve been talking about.
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We have to know how to live a lifestyle that is in accordance with our hormones.
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And do you have like key tenets of this lifestyle?
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Do you have like?
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Yeah, it would be fasting, food, working out, sleep, and probably socializing.
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I m gonna put socializing and work.
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Like those six things, if you could time them and know how to do them with your hormones, you are absolutely increasing your ability to attract more abundance in your life.
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And these six things kind of create your environment.
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That s right.
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Everything within your environment of your day-to-day life.
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Yeah.
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If those things are in alignment with healthy habits and healthy living and healthy choices, I m assuming you re going to feel better.
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That s right.
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But if one of them or a few of them are off or all of them are off, your hormones are probably going to be off too.
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That s right.
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So, what s the consequence of your hormones being off?
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We can talk about PCOS, weight gain, menopausal symptoms.
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I mean, there s a lot.
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PMDD is a new concept that s just being talked about.
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What is that?
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Really bad premenstrual symptoms.
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Okay.
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So, all of that that we have fancy names for, I equate to, we re just living out of accordance with our hormones.
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So, when you re physically suffering, you re not a money magnet for sure.
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But if we look at what happens to women when they go through menopause, we start to lose one hormone or component of estrogen called estradiol.
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When we lose that, we lose all those neurotransmitters that I talked about.
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And we react to stress a lot more acutely.
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Our ability to hold on to information becomes more difficult because we lose BDNF because we lost estradiol.
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So again, that s why the menopause reset, I talk about perimenopause and postmenopause because there s another level of lifestyle that needs to come in there to accommodate all of the loss of neurochemicals.
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I mean, it s really, like, it s intricate.
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Yes.
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But once you understand it, like, again, a woman becomes unstoppable.
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Does that make sense?
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That s powerful, yeah.
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Right?
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And what s the best way that a man or a woman can clean up their insulin system?
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Fasting.
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Fasting.
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Fasting.
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That s why it s taken over the world.
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I know.
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What s the downside to fasting?
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If you do it too much, for women, it changes to our hormones, so that s why I wrote the whole book.
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So it s almost like women need to be very mindful when they start fasting.
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How, the time of the month.
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How and when, for how long, and they need to test it a little bit more, it sounds like.
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Don t just jump in and try to do it like men would try.
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Because there s certain apps that might just say, okay, just go for 20 hours a day, or 16 hours a day, and just do it every day.
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you know, rank yourself amongst your peers and try to, you know, compete.
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And that s probably not the way that women should be thinking about it, right?
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That s right, that s right.
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Nobody should be competing in fasting.
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Right, right, exactly.
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Even men.
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But there s the gamification of apps that are like, okay, your score is up, keep going and go a little longer.
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You know, it s like that whole gamification can be tricky psychologically for people.
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Yes.
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So for women, I m hearing you re fasting, but be very mindful and test it and track it.
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Yes, track it, test it, experiment.
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Fast Like a Girl has become the manual for women, so it s all in there.
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You can go to my YouTube, I have a bunch of things there.
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And I m just saying that because we just consolidated it in one location.
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But then I say this all the time, then test it, like you said.
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Test it for you.
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Test it.
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See if it works.
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You might find you can fast a little longer during ovulation than my recommendation.
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If it works, then great.
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But the problem was is that we didn t have this conversation when fasting took over the world.
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So all these people started to lose weight, and women started to lose hair, they started to lose cycles, their thyroids crashed, because they weren t given the formula, and now they have the formula.
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That s kind of scary, right?
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When fasting kind of took over, really in the last four to five years I would say it s gotten more popularized, right?
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And how many women were coming to you saying that this doesn t work?
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hundreds of thousands.
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Really?
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So this is actually really interesting.
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So I was the first one.
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So I found out about fasting, loved it, started, and I was about 44 years old at the time.
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And I was like, okay, this is great.
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And all of a sudden I started dropping weight, my moods improved, like every perimenopausal symptom I had went away.
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And then I started to notice like anxiety crept up.
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I started going into menopause at 45.
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And I was like, this doesn t seem right.
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The later I go, like the average age for a woman going into menopause is like 52.
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So I ran a Dutch hormone test on myself and my hormones were completely tanked because I was fasting too much.
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What were you doing at that time, for how long?
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Oh, I was doing like one meal a day.
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I was doing three-day water fasts a couple times a year, like three, four, five times a year.
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I felt so good.
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And that s the problem.
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You do feel so good.
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That first year, because your body s getting rid of all the dead fat cells and the toxic cells.
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You re flushing it out, right?
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Yeah.
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But then your hormones weren t feeling good.
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Right.
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When did you start to feel the negative symptoms of fasting?
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It was about a year of doing all that.
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A year in.
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Yeah.
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Your body was like, all right, this is too much.
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Yeah.
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So then I broke the menstrual cycle down and I was like, okay, wait, wait, progesterone doesn t do well with cortisol.
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Wait, progesterone needs glucose up.
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Okay, I gotta change that.
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And then I went to the ovulation part of my cycle and I was like, wait, I should be focusing more on my gut and my liver.
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How can I support those with food?
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And I started to change that.
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And then literally I was like almost in menopause at 45 and my cycle came back.
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You were almost in menopause at 45, so you just weren t having your period anymore, it was gone.
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It was gone.
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For how long?
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It was about three or four months.
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Okay, so you were like, I m feeling good, my body s looking good, but something s off.
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Yeah, and anxiety was through the roof.
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I couldn t sit on the couch and relax anymore because progesterone makes GABA.
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And so what I did is I killed progesterone.
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And then progesterone s what allows that uterine lining to shed.
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I wasn t making the neurotransmitter to calm me, so anxiety was showing up for the first time in my life.
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But I loved the weight I was.
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Yeah, you were like, I look great, I feel strong.
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That s right.
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Interesting, so when did it start to come back?
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When did the cycle come back and you realized you started testing different things?
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It was within 90 days.
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Wow.
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And then I got really excited about it and I was like, well, let me test it on my patients.
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So we started testing it on the patients that were hormonal hot messes and they all started coming back within 90 days.
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They re like, oh my gosh, all that stuff you had been giving me supplements for, they re all balanced now.
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Then I was like, okay, let me test it on women that are struggling with pregnancy.
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That one blew me away.
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So I had a couple of staff members that were struggling to get pregnant.
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And I was like, I think this might be the cure or the thing that will help you.
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I don t know.
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Let s try it.
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Fasting or taking it off fasting?
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Fasting like a girl.
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So knowing how to go in and out at the right time.
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All of them got pregnant within a month.
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Wow.
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And you go to my YouTube videos, you go to my reviews on Amazon.
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I mean, we ve been able to reproduce this over and over again.
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And then I started teaching it on YouTube.
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That s cool.
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And you have a channel.
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I really looked at YouTube, my YouTube community, as like an incubator.
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So I would say, hey, this is what I think is working.
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This is years ago.
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Go try it.
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And then millions of women all over the world flooded our channel and just started saying, like, hey, this is working.
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So we just took inventory of what was working and not working.
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And that s why I think Fast Like a Girl is resonating.
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That s amazing.
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We tested it all.
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That s so cool.
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It s really cool.
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It s really fun.
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What do you think is the hardest thing about getting our hormones in alignment and healthier?
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Well, the first is understanding it.
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So this is why... Even if we have all this information, because a lot of us understand, eat less, eat better things, and we ll feel better.
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But we eat poorly.
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We eat sugar.
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We overeat.
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We overconsume.
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We re influenced by marketing, by abundance of it, whatever it might be.
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Lack of
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motivation, whatever it might be, we re influenced.
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We re out at parties, whatever it is.
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It s the modern world.
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A lot of us know we re not supposed to do certain things and we still do it.
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And I m not here to judge, because I eat sugar a lot, just with the best of them.
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And I know I m not supposed to do it, right?
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I know it s hurting me, but I ve eliminated so many other things that I m like, okay, this is the only thing I m going to allow myself to have every once in a while.
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That s right.
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But what is holding us back the most?
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a lack of discipline, a lack of motivation?
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Is it our environment?
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Is it our family s habits that have passed down to us that now we re just in routine from what they ve done?
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Is it our friends?
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Is it just we have too much access to devices that are marketing to us these things and causing stress?
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Is it everything?
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It s all of that.
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I mean, this is why I say we re at a mismatch with the modern world.
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But if we just take, let s, that s, this is, this is why I want to simplify it because it would be easy to listen to everything you just said and think, well, I m screwed then.
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Like, okay, that s impossible.
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And I m saying that it s not impossible and you should take steps.
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So let s start with the food step.
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The, the food, the processed food is made to make you addicted to it.
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So how do we change that alone?
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Okay, well if I can get you to fast, I actually can get you to start to feel better without food.
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And your microbiome would change and your food choices would change.
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If we start there, we start to clean up the hormonal system.
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because the food industry is working to keep you addicted to food.
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So they have no incentive for you to not be addicted to their food.
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To fast, there s no incentive.
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There s no incentive to fast.
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They don t make any money.
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That s right.
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But if I can get you to fast, I can change your microbiome, I can get you feeling good there, you re gonna make better food choices.
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And there s tons of research.
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My favorite story that I tell all the time right now is a man came to me, he was 300 pounds,
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And he said, I really need your help.
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And I said, OK, tell me what s going on.
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He said, I need to lose weight.
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I said, OK, why?
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He said, I need to stay alive for my family.
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I was like, I m in.
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How can I help you?
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I said, what s your biggest hurdle?
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He goes, I m food addicted.
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I drink 12 sodas a day.
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I can t get off the buffalo wings.
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I can t get off the fast food.
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Well, those are making you addicted.
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They want you to be addicted.
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So I took his addicted food and I just started to have him eat it within a certain period.
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First month, I got him where he was only eating that horrible food within like a 10, 12 hour period.
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The rest was fasting.
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First month, drinking 12 sodas, eating buffalo wings, he lost 13 pounds.
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just by eating it within a window?
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Just by compressing it into one window.
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Second month, I said to him, can you just do the soda outside the house?
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Like, just don t bring the soda inside the house.
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Stay with this eating window.
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I think he was doing like an eating window of like eight hours by that time.
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So he was going 16 hours of fasting.
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He lost nine pounds.
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Next month, I still haven t taken much away from him.
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I had him add protein in.
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He started to add protein and he lost 15 pounds.
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Wow.
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So we did this routine.
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And when I got him into some longer fasts, we got him like, it was just a process.
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I just saw him for the first time.
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He s down 175 pounds.
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Wow, that s incredible.
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And we started with when he ate, not what he ate.
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It s, it s, I didn t recognize him.
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It blew me away when I saw him.
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I was like crying.
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We were both crying.
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And all we did is change when he ate and that was the door in to change everything else.
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Wow.
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Does he still eat certain unhealthy foods or is he now like, okay, I know the value of these nutritional foods and I m going to eat more of these, less of the bad foods?
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So he still eats, he still, every once in a while, the majority of his diet is really good.
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Yeah, 80, 90%.
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Because he started craving different foods.
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Your taste buds change, your microbiome, you re craving different things, they want healthier things.
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That s right.
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But, we came up with the help, there was a team of us that started rallying around him, like an exercise specialist and a life coach and everything.
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The life coach came up with this idea of like, okay, if you re gonna go off your diet, just don t do it two days in a row.
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You can do it one, but then the next day you have to clean it up.
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Just two turns into five.
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That s right.
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You know, two just is like, well, let me just roll into this the next day.
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I thought that was a really good, I was like, that s a really good rule.
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Just don t do it two days in a row.
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That s really good.
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Dr. Mindy, I have so many more questions I want to ask you, but we ve got to wrap things up here in a minute, so I ve got a couple final ones.
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If you guys are fascinated by this, listening on audio or YouTube, and you want another episode with Dr. Mindy to go in deeper, because I don t even ask most of my questions, then leave a yes below for another episode or part two.
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Type in yes or another episode in the comments.
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And share your biggest takeaway as well in this episode so far.
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What has shocked you or what has helped you or what s the thing you ve underlined the most from this conversation?
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Leave that in a comment below.
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Your book Fast Like a Girl, sold over 400,000 copies in the first year so far, is helping
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So many women get healthier, lose the right types of weight, balance their hormones, look younger, feel better, all these different things.
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And so I want people to get your book, Fast Like a Girl, A Woman s Guide to Using the Healing Power of Fasting to Burn Fat, Boost Energy, and Balance Hormones.
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Make sure you get this for a friend, get it as a gift.
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for a woman in your life, they will thank you and send them a link to this episode as well.
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You also have the menopause reset.
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Get rid of your symptoms and feel like your younger self again.
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So make sure you guys check out this.
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You ve got a few other books on your website.
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Your YouTube channel has, at the time of posting this, will probably have a million subscribers by now.
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Thank you.
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Five days a week, great content.
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So people can search over on your YouTube channel and on your podcast to get a lot more information on this.
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We barely scratched the surface.
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I m fascinated.
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This is inspiring stuff.
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Is there anything else we can send people to to support you to today before the final couple questions?
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Oh, you re so sweet.
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Yeah, I mean, again, play with the principles.
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So, YouTube s my passion project.
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I pour my time and soul into that, so go there, get the books, and leave comments on my YouTube and what you wanna know more about, because I do have a team there that s scouring that, so I think that s probably the best place to go.
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That s exciting, very cool.
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And the YouTube link is, what s the link there?
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It s just my name, Dr. Mindy Pelz.
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Dr. Mindy Peltz over on YouTube.
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This is a question I ask everyone towards the end called the three truths.
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So imagine a hypothetical scenario.
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It s the last day on earth for you many years away.
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You get to live as long as you want, but it s the last day.
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You get to create and experience all the things you want to in this life for the rest of your life.
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But for whatever reason, on this last day, you ve got to take all of your work with you.
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Your books, this conversation, all your YouTube videos, they all go with you when you pass away.
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But you get to leave behind one final message, and this is all we would have of yours.
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And this final message is your three truths, the three lessons you would leave behind.
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And we wouldn t have access to anything else.
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What would those three truths be for you?
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Well, the first one goes for both men and women, but I really want women to hear this.
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You are more powerful than you ve been taught.
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Your body is a freaking miracle.
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It can heal.
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It can adapt.
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It knows what it s doing.
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Trust it.
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That would be the first one.
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My second truth would be
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People matter, who you surround yourself with, who you connect with.
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Don t isolate yourself.
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Don t surround yourself with people that bring you down.
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People matter.
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Hormonally, they matter.
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And then my third one would be, be a lifelong learner.
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Just keep learning, stay curious, stay curious.
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We live in a world where we wanna cancel everybody out because they don t think like us.
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But the people that don t think like us actually can help us deepen our thoughts.
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So stay curious to all information.
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Those are great truths.
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Dr. Minnie, I wanna acknowledge you for a moment because you ve been doing this work for over 25 years.
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But it really hasn t been until the last year, after 25 years, where all this stuff has taken off into the world in a bigger way.
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So I want to acknowledge you for dedicating most of your life to this work, to helping women and men, but doing it where, you know, maybe you re only working with your local community for many of those years.
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And it wasn t being spread to the masses, and it wasn t selling hundreds of thousands of copies of your book, but you showed up daily to learn, to try new things, and to serve people.
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And that has made a big impact on the world.
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by your commitment and your dedication.
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So I really acknowledge you for your lifelong service to healing and health.
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It s really powerful and it s helping a lot of people right now.
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So I m grateful we got to connect and I hope we get to do this again.
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Yeah, I agree, yeah, I d love to come back.
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And thank you, I appreciate your kind words.
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And like we started off, I ve been a fan of your podcast for years.
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I appreciate it.
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And I really feel like conversations like this can really impact people s lives if you just sit with the information and see what resonates.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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Thank you, thank you for the opportunity.
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Of course.
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Final question, what s your definition of greatness?
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Trusting yourself.
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Trusting your own inner guidance.
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There you go, Dr. Moody, thank you so much.
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Appreciate you.
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Thank you, appreciate you.