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Hello.
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Hey, what s up?
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Hi there.
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Who s this?
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This is Hunter S. Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
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Is that Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
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That s him, right?
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Yes, I believe that is him.
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Well, I can only assume I got part of my name from there, but you know, you know.
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It was him, Hunter, but now it is you.
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What s going on, man?
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How can I get you today?
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What s happening?
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Well, I guess for all the viewers out there, my name is Hunter.
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I have a multitude of disabilities.
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And for some reason, I generally like to see myself as a more chill person.
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But whenever I meet other people named Hunter or other people with disabilities, I get weirdly... I can only describe it as, um... Territorial, almost?
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Yeah, man.
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It says, uh... It says I get weirdly territorial when I meet other disabled folks or other people named Hunter.
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Now, you said territorial is the only way to describe this.
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How would you describe this feeling?
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It almost, I guess a part of it almost, you know, just because I, you know, I moved around military-wise, I m so used to being like, almost like one of a kind, almost.
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I think like a weird part of me just has kind of like, just kind of neat to, on one hand, to see, oh, I m not the only one out here with any particular thing.
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But at the same time, another part of me almost feels like, well, now I m not special anymore.
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And that almost, almost kind of bums me out a little bit.
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When you were growing up, like, go ahead.
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I was going to say, never, never had a real problem with any, any of, any of one.
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I just thought it was just a weird thing that I d hopefully
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I don t know, like, do you hear input on any sort of... Growing up, I never really had this issue.
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I didn t notice this until I more so graduated high school.
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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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How old are you now?
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25.
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Cool.
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So, um... Growing up, like, okay, so, growing up, what, like, did you, was being, was, like, the identity of being disabled, like, important to you?
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No!
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Oh, it was, um...
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For the most part, like, I barely noticed it growing up.
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It didn t become more noticeable until I got older.
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I have cerebral palsy.
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scoliosis and then my doctor says I might have a little bit of arthritis in my back so I got to get checked up for that at some point as well.
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And like nowadays like you would you consider your disability like I would you consider it a big part of who you are or how you define yourself or your personality or anything like that?
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100% I think it s at the point where I can actually notice how it affects everything and
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just how over time this changes what I ve done and how I do things.
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Why do you think that when you were a kid, you barely noticed it, but now at 25, it s like a cornerstone of who you are?
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Um, well, I guess cause as a kid, you know, you re, you just, you have a lot of energy, you use it.
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But of course I, I always, um, instead of using it to take care of myself, I dread just went off and did whatever made me happy.
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And I can only imagine now a lot of that s just catching up with me.
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Hmm.
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Um, now do you have like, like how else, I mean, aside from being disabled, like how else do you define yourself?
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What else is important in your identity?
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Well, identity wise, I, I think it s important.
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Um, I guess I mentioned I m on the more, uh,
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Quiet side initially, but I do tend to open up as long as someone else starts the conversation Sure, I generally try to be on the more friendly side of things Which is why I find my weird I guess my weird feelings of meeting other people s with similar ailment to be just baffling to me hmm I never have the issue with the person as a whole like I was an individual.
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It s just like I
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I can only explain it as like, oh hey, this is the space I ve occupied for so long.
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You re in my space.
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But again, I don t have a problem with them ever normally.
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This is one of those, I have these two, these thoughts that you have or feelings you have that are like guttural, and then there s a second part of you deeper in your brain that looks at that guttural feeling that you have and goes, why the fuck am I feeling like this?
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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I feel like there s a way, you know, yeah, I have that too.
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Where, like, you re talking to someone, and you re thinking something, and you re like, why the fuck did I think that?
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I should, you know, where s that coming from?
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You know?
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Like, I think there s a power in that self-awareness that you can use, right?
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Like, because you can, theoretically, you can
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To some degree, I think, train your brain to not feel certain- I don t know, actually, this is something I have thought about a while, like, can you train your brain against these certain guttural feelings?
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You can try.
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You can definitely, like, be mindful of it.
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And every time you re talking to another disabled person, and something in your brain goes like, Hey, I m the only motherfucker with cerebral palsy on this block.
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Alright?
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This person s on my turf.
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You look at that thought, and you re like, you know, you understand that you do not desire for that to be in the lexicon of your brain.
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And you take it, and you put it away.
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You know?
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Right, I think for me too, at least I m aware enough to where, at least in my friend group, I m constantly joking about my own ailments.
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I m very self-deprivation-wise in my humor.
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Love it.
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So it s enough to where it s like, I know this isn t really a problem, but you know, it is just interesting to think.
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Definitely think I can
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Definitely train myself to not go go to that right away Okay, I gotta ask you this I get it I get where you re coming from with the cerebral put with like the You know being territorial about disabilities I get I understand kind of why you might be having those thoughts But I have no idea why you re territorial about other people named hunter.
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Oh
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Um, I don t know.
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I think part of that just comes to at least growing up.
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Like I was, um, finding at least all the places I ve lived, finding someone named Tundra was a rare thing.
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And now it s becoming more common.
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And the more, the more often I hear someone else being called, that s not me.
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The more like weird and confused, but just, I just get confused.
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And part of that, I think also comes back to like, Oh, see, I m not, I m not as special as I used to be.
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You know what, Hunter?
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Actually, now that I m thinking about it, every time, now that I m thinking about it, in the two or three times in my life I ve ever met another Lyle, there is a little part of my brain that goes like, fuck this guy.
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Right, and I wonder how much of that comes to, when I was a kid, there was another person in my kindergarten class named Hunter S.
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And from what I remember, just didn t know.
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I thought he was loud and obnoxious.
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It s like, I just, ah, I wonder how much of my subconscious mind associates other people with that specific hunter, despite, you know, everyone being so different.
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That s like, oh, this is a far cry from who they used to be when they were in kindergarten.
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I doubt this person named Hunter I m talking to is that.
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Hmm.
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And now let me ask you this, has this territorial thing that goes, it just goes on in your brain, right?
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It s going on in your brain and you re looking at it and you re going, why the fuck am I thinking like this?
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Has there ever been a time where any of your, these thoughts of territorialness have ever creeped their way in or manifested themselves in your words or actions to these other people?
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Um, I, I want to say no, but a part of me just cause I m typically shyer.
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around, you know, meeting new folks.
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I wonder if to a degree that manifests itself as almost like a standoffishness.
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But I don t think so.
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Well, yeah, man, I think what I think I would just Yeah, it s hard.
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It s hard to get your brain to not think thoughts that you don t want it to think but in the brief moment I would in the brief moments where you do It s like lucid dreaming You know what?
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I mean?
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Like when you when you when you have that awareness that you re dreaming and you all of a sudden you can control your dreams You can kind of do that with your thoughts to like you have this awareness that you re Acting or thinking in a certain way that you don t like you can take you can reign it in
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And you can go, you know what, there s room in town for multiple cool disabled guys named Hunter.
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Right, and I know at least where I grew up, because I m from Washington State, it was a very communal, you know, if I met other folks with disabilities, it was a community thing.
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We were all, everyone was nice, everyone was friendly, so it s like there should be no reason that this thought even occurred to begin with, let alone after high school.
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Alternatively, you could challenge them to a duel, and that would... I don t know if that d be healthy, but it d be sick.
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It would be interesting, but I feel like I d get more stuck on the kind of duel, and that would essentially have the opponent go away in boredom, because I feel like I d get a little too specific.
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Alright, let s say I m... Alright, let s say I roll up to you, and I m Hunter, and you don t like the sweat of my brow, and you don t like my name, and you don t like that I m in a wheelchair, and you wanna duel me.
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What would the parameters of the duel be?
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First and foremost, I d imagine I d have to find, of course, something that works for the both of us and both of our ailments.
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Because, you know, I want this to be a fair duel.
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And not a duel I can simply win because I, while I ve had some issues walking, I m still not wheelchair-bound yet.
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So I d want to make sure to establish some fair ground.
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Ideally, we d find something that we both can do to a healthy and
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skillful enough degree to where it doesn t come off as a one-sided duel.
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You know, because I imagine if we re gonna have a duel, you know, it s gonna be like an old, old Wild West movie.
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There s gonna be a lot of onlookers, everyone s coming to the center of town, ready to watch, watch everything just go down.
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So I d hopefully find something that we re both good enough at so we don t quite embarrass ourselves in front of everyone else.
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Do you, if you re in a wheelchair, can you ride a horse?
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You know, I, that s a good question.
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Cause I, me, me personally, um, I, I ve been fortunate enough to where I m, like I said, only, only recently have I really struggled with walking.
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And I think that s more from the scoliosis of anything.
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But I do remember seeing this gentleman on TikTok whose sister tends to get him, um, a lot of gifts that don t quite fit, um,
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Him and his disability.
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So I know on one of the TikToks, she put her brother on a bike and it just kind of fell over with him on it.
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So I d imagine with a lot of upper body strength, he d probably be able to hang on to the horse, but I don t think you d be able to get a good, I guess like a kick in to push the horse forward, you know?
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So jousting is out.
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If you were to, all right, let me, I ll phrase you this before we go.
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What s your name again?
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Hunter.
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Hunter, if you could pick, what would you pick as the dueling activity?
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If I go for duel, it s gotta be, I feel like there s gotta be a spectacle to it, for sure.
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Right, you wouldn t just wanna do chess.
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I generally, if we can put on a bunch of suits of armor and fight with swords or crossed hands, I feel like that d probably be the way to go.
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Let me know if you do this, because I want to emcee it.
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I will keep you posted, good sir.
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Hunter, thanks for talking to me.
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I hope this conversation was of any remote kind of sort of minuscule amount of good for you.
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Oh, no, it s fantastic.
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I appreciate it a lot.
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Thank you, Gak.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go, Hunter?
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Uh, I guess, um, I guess I hope everyone else is enjoying themselves, having a nice day, and also if things feel dark, um, things will get better.
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I ve had many on and offs in the last two years, um, so you folks can get through it.
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Y all have yourself a nice night.
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Thank you, Hunter.
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Take care.
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Take care.
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If there are any Lyles out there who would be willing to accept my challenge of, um,
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fighting to the death with shotguns.
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Let me know.
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Hello?
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What s your name, partner?
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My name s Cory.
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Cory, it says here you texted me saying, I used to work for Paul Rudd, and now I can t stand the guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, dude.
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Pissing me off.
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All right.
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This is the tell all.
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Is this the first?
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This is some real, this is a hot goss that you re about to drop on the Therapy Gecko show.
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I don t know if I want TMZ knocking down my door, but fuck it.
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I signed an NDA, but you know, enough times passed.
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I wonder, I wonder if we re okay.
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I think we re good.
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I think so.
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I worked on a, I worked on a show with him.
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Um,
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The show was called The Shrink Next Door.
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And my job, I was the production secretary, which is a production office position.
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Basically, you re like the lackeys of the producers.
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It s like the producer wants you to get something done, like hire a vendor to do X. I m just the guy who communicates with the vendor and gets things done.
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And we were shooting in Los Angeles, and Paul Rudd,
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lives in New York.
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He s from New York.
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He s like a New York guy, right?
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So my job, I was assigned the job of helping Paul Rudd find a home in Los Angeles for him to stay for like six months for the duration of the shoot because he wanted like a home home.
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So I had to, I had to help him find the home home.
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So what I did was I reached out to realtors and I would get the best properties they had and the budget
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I found out what his budget was per month and it s not his money.
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He s spending productions, paying for him to come out because you know, it kind of makes sense.
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If you re making the guy come live somewhere, uh, to shoot, you might as well pay for his home.
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So his budget was crazy.
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And this was back in like 2021.
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So it was like in the middle of the pandemic.
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So it was tough.
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I had to like find realtors I could work with.
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So I had a bunch of properties.
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I like it.
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So wait, wait, wait, let me ask you something.
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Let me ask you something.
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What s your name again?
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My name s Corey.
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I can talk for a while, so if I need to speed it up, please tell me.
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Are you sure you re, well, no, this is all, look, here s the thing.
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This is all fascinating information for me, but are you sure you re allowed to tell us all this?
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I think the LDA I signed pertains to the content of the product, which has already been released.
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Like, I couldn t tell, I had access to scripts.
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I couldn t tell you before it was released what was in the scripts, my guess.
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Okay, all right.
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That s a good question.
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I guess I wanna make sure that nobody s gonna, I wanna make sure that Paul Rudd s not gonna fucking snipe you while you re on the phone with me.
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This is a good point.
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I ll avoid numbers going forward.
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Paul, I have, if you hear this, I have respect for you and your position.
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You ticked me off a little bit, but you know,
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I thought you were I thought you hate okay let s get let s keep going because I thought you hated the guy I want to hear about this oh okay so okay so he pissed me off and then the same year he pisses me off he becomes like sexiest guy alive and that s the thing like like he like the guy s always been popular since he s been a movie star but then like this year he exploded of course when he pisses me off so like why did he why did he piss you off okay okay okay so like basically I had to do like
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My whole job transitioned from being a production secretary to being Paul Rudd s realtor, basically.
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Finding him, I was in contact with multiple realtors, multiple properties, sending him the properties, making spreadsheets.
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And I finally, like, narrowed it down to, like, four properties.
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I went to 12 properties.
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He wanted me to be a videographer for him, video all the properties, edit the videos down to, like, four-minute synopsises and narrate.
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So, like, this was my whole job, was finding Paul Rudd a home for two weeks.
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And he needed to move in.
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I had two weeks to find a home.
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I needed to move in in two weeks.
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Things needed to move.
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This was hard.
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So the work was laborious.
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difficult and frustrating and the communication from him was very poor and like we get close to locking in one place and like I thought we had it and then all of a sudden he s like I don t like the vibe at this place so we re changing it up so we changed it up and I was like I was a good sport that s a good sport I find it I find a place it s Gerard Butler s home I might be sharing too much again are you sure you sure you
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We ll go with it.
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We ll go with it.
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Lord Paul, I m sorry.
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You know, we re good.
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But moving forward, yeah, we get Gerard Butler s home.
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I do video tours with it.
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We settle on it.
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Good.
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Done.
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Deal.
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Deal is signed.
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And then he all of a sudden is like, wait, Corey, are you free for more work?
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I was like, OK, I should probably get back to the production stuff.
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But you know, it s Paul Rudd.
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I ll do what he wants me to do.
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He s like, can you make me a home gym in Gerard Butler s home?
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And this is like, again, at the start of the pandemic context, it s in Los Angeles.
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Like everyone s trying to make a home gym right now.
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Cause no one wants to go to the gym.
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Like this, this, this making a home gym.
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Is this like an extra thing on top of what you already get paid from the production?
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No, I would still be doing a production secretary, but I m hired by a production company that is making something that Paul Rudd is an executive producer for.
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So in the structure of things, like I kind of work for Paul Rudd.
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Like his assistant should be doing this job, but because in an indirect way I work for him, and his assistant already does enough things, he decided I was the guy.
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And I already made a house appear for him.
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So he s like, here, this guy can do another thing.
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Yeah, I get the guy a home gym.
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But it was like the hardest thing.
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I had to assemble it from like four different rental vendors.
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And I finally get it all set up.
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I hire movers.
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The costs were exorbitant.
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Like, everyone realized the home gym equipment was so valuable right now.
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Like, prices were so high.
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So like, I have to hire movers to come move the things in.
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I have to install a new floor in Gerard Butler s home to protect the antique floor.
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Just like, rich people problems.
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So like, there s some maybe classrooms that I m in here too, where I m like, solving rich people problems and getting paid pennies to do it.
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Um, so then it s all done, right?
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So it s all set up.
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It s a home gym set up, put my heart and soul into it.
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It was actually excited to do it for him.
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And then I FaceTime him.
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I FaceTime him.
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I m like, here s the moment.
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You re going to show off the house.
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You re going to show off the home gym.
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You said of all this love, labor you put into it and you FaceTime him.
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And I will say he s a very nice guy.
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And it s like the kind of nice where it s like, it almost hurts.
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It s so nice where it s like, he s killing you with kindness.
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So everything he says.
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Everything he says, you can t be mad about because his tone is so sweet.
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But I show him the room, and he s like, oh, Corey, great job.
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But I really prefer to do my workouts clockwise around the room.
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I like to go from station to station doing my workout.
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So I need you to rearrange the room
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So I can do that.
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And like the movers just left.
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Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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He likes, so he wants to have the machine.
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So he wants the machines set up so that he, he rotates through them clockwise.
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Yeah.
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So I, I m going to give him some empathy here.
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This is Marvel time.
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So he s got like,
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and
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i m ringing that tab up i m ringing that tab up you know what if it s marvel s money i m like this um this is like if disney is paying for you i m like yeah let me just you know this is infinite money so i get them on that yeah and then i guess i guess you re right i guess if you re like a big fucking movie star like you know your whole thing is uh
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Although who really gives a shit about the physique of Ant-Man?
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Can t he just be like skinny?
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Isn t that the whole thing?
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It s like he s- I don t know, they blow- They blow him up pretty big when he goes- I don t know what it s called.
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SPEAKER_01
When he goes into big Ant-Man form, he s pretty big.
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He s big on the screen, you know?
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SPEAKER_01
You gotta look good for that shot.
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Sure, sure.
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I reckon.
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I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
So he- So he wants to do- He wanted to do the workouts clockwise, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so I had to like- Not double my budget for the whole space, but I had to like hire movers to come back and it took like three or four of them because it s heavy gear.
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And like, again, more considerations with the space being like a classic historical house.
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So just like the budget went up like crazy again.
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And my pay didn t.
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Again, it s class resentment.
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That s the truth of it here.
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He was very sweet about it, but I had it all sorted out.
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So all of it was sorted out.
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And this kind of fueled my desire to fucking want to leave.
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the type of work I was doing.
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Here s the thing, you ll probably never work in the film industry again, but it s a good thing because as you know, better than I do, it s a terrible place to work.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Go ahead.
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SPEAKER_00
What were you going to say?
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SPEAKER_01
I mean, I ve been abused since I got out here.
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My first job that I worked on was Barry and the fucking props guy was like emotionally and manipulative and abusive.
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Um,
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Yeah, I ve had a shit experience in that.
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So I used to, um, I ve never had, I ve never had any, I ve never had anyone like that I would write an expose about or anything like that.
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SPEAKER_00
But, um, you know, yeah, I mean, people, people are, people are definitely.
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crazy this i once had a guy um well you re telling me about all this like i m thinking about this because you re telling me about like oh i meant i was i thought i was gonna be like on the set of marvel movies and now i m like helping a guy build a home gym i was once a pa on um a show as a pa
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and, um, the executive producer of the, uh, shoot had this, like, van that he wanted to deck out, so he basically just had me, like, drive the van all around Atlanta, like, going to various Home Depots, like, getting supplies for a van that I m pretty sure had nothing to do with the show, but he just, you know, I was kind of his bitch, so I- so I- so I did it, but...
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You know, I guess those are the kind of... I don t know, I guess... I guess that s what you do, alright?
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SPEAKER_00
You re kind of a bitch for a while, and then eventually you work your way up to having somebody else build your home gym.
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Maybe.
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Yeah, I mean, maybe.
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I feel like it doesn t work out like that for 95% of the people in the business.
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They usually get burnt out and then leave.
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But my perspective, my healthy... I m like 27 now, so I ve got a healthy perspective on this.
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I ate shit for a while and didn t get paid a lot, but I have some cool stories from it, and I think I grew and got some good experiences that helped me be a better person from it at the very best.
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I didn t tell you the worst part of the Paul Rudd story.
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So he had me jump through all these hurdles.
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And then I left the show because I was so sick of it.
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That was one of the breaking points for me.
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And then the other breaking point where I was like,
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The producers made a bunch of decisions that were anti-worker, and I had to be the mouthpiece and spread the news to the crew about all the shitty things.
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The producers didn t want to say anything, so they had me say everything, and then I would violate union rules.
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I would just share information in the ways that I had to tell the crew members that they weren t going to get hotels when we were doing travel shoots.
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Like I had to be that guy sharing information that was like the crew would hate me for.
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So then they all like call me screaming at like 2 a.m.
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in the morning about how I m, I personally am violating union rules by following the orders of the producers.
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So I just like quit.
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I left that show.
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Um, but I heard, so I left the show halfway through four months later, I checked in with Paul Rudd s assistant.
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Cause I wanted, I was curious.
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I had a morbid curiosity.
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I was like, did he, did he ever use the home gym?
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And the personal assistant said, I can guarantee you, he never used the home gym once.
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SPEAKER_00
Of course he didn t.
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All of it.
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All of this for that.
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Yeah.
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So then a few months later, he got sexiest man of the year, I think.
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So then, yeah, I got super mad then.
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all
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story than I thought it would be I thought you were gonna say he hit you or some shit oh no he s a good guy and it fucking sucks sorry I can t swear you you re totally allowed to discuss the financial details of people that you ve signed NDAs to not talk about but no you cannot say fuck all right well
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I m already on my way out of the business anyways, might as well.
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SPEAKER_02
Right, 5% of the people who are lucky, if even that, they get to go make a movie.
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SPEAKER_02
But you don t have to do that anymore, because now you can just make a movie and put it on the internet and do shit that way.
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SPEAKER_02
That s so true.
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SPEAKER_02
I did a little bit of... I spent a lot of time as an intern being people s bitch.
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But then most of whatever I ve got came from the internet, so it s a little... A little bit of both doesn t hurt.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, no, it s so true.
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SPEAKER_00
Um, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
What, what s next for you?
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Are you, what are you going to go into now?
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SPEAKER_02
If you re not, what s, what s, what s next for you?
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SPEAKER_00
Currently I m a cinema lens technician and that was going great until the strike.
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SPEAKER_00
So my whole life in the film industry has been like getting shit on, uh, like COVID and then now the strikes and I support striking workers everywhere.
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SPEAKER_00
But that doesn t mean I m not impacted by it.
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And I m not in any union, so I don t really get strike funds or union protections.
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So I m kind of, business isn t great right now.
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I work for a rental company, a camera rental company.
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And, you know, shout out to B-City.
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It s a really great company.
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But yeah, I don t, I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
I think I want to go into like real estate photography, honestly.
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I ve always been passionate about cameras and
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I have done a lot of photography in the past, but never architectural or real estate.
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I don t know if I can make some money off the back of some realtors selling investment properties.
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SPEAKER_00
That feels like a more ethical way to go about an industry that s actually proven to make people money, I guess.
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I don t know.
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I m still working it out.
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I do have to say this, and I think you understand this as well.
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Say what you will about Paul Rudd and your experience with him, but it sounds like he awakened within you this desire to do real estate photography.
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Yeah, definitely.
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SPEAKER_00
He pissed me off enough to make me reject his fucking Kool-Aid, Paul Rudd.
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SPEAKER_02
Wait, but isn t he, he s the one who would, he would, he told you, he was like, I need you to make these short films of each room in the house.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh dude.
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He got, oh wait.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, I see your point.
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SPEAKER_00
I was doing real estate videography and photography for him.
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Right.
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And he is the impetus.
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SPEAKER_00
Ah, okay.
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SPEAKER_00
So now, now I m supposed to like worship him, huh?
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I should be, I should be thanking him.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Damn it.
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I m trying to think of what was the one... I don t think I ve ever seen Ant-Man, actually.
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Have you?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I ve seen one and two.
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SPEAKER_00
There s a third one, but that one looked crazy, so I checked out.
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SPEAKER_02
Are you like, are you not gonna watch any Paul Rudd movies anymore?
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SPEAKER_00
No, I just watched I Love You Man the other day, and it was really good.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
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So, you know, he pissed me off.
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SPEAKER_00
He got Sexiest Man Alive.
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SPEAKER_00
But, you know, he still has a place in my heart.
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SPEAKER_02
He could probably hit me and I would still watch his movies.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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I don t know where the line is.
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He hasn t crossed it yet, but there ll be something.
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Wait.
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I m not going to bring up Israel-Palestine, but I think he made some comments recently.
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I don t know.
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I don t know.
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I don t know.
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SPEAKER_02
Just one last-ditch effort to get something in on him.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Bro, what s your name again?
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SPEAKER_00
My name s Corey.
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SPEAKER_02
Corey, you re a cool guy, man.
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SPEAKER_02
I hope whatever thing you get out of or into that you find success and peace in it.
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SPEAKER_00
Thanks, Lyle.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know you.
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SPEAKER_00
You don t know me, but I like you a lot.
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SPEAKER_00
You re a great guy.
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SPEAKER_00
You do good things.
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I hope you re taking care of yourself, because I think you are taking good care of everybody that you talk to.
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SPEAKER_02
I m trying my best to do whatever I m doing.
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SPEAKER_00
All you can do, dude.
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Hell yeah.
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Well, take care, man, and good luck, sir.
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SPEAKER_02
Sweet dreams.
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SPEAKER_02
You re the sexiest man alive in my book.
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SPEAKER_00
Hell yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Take that, Paul.
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SPEAKER_02
Later, buddy.
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SPEAKER_00
Bye.
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SPEAKER_02
Something tells me I m going to be hearing from some lawyers sometime soon.
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SPEAKER_01
Hello.
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SPEAKER_02
Hello.
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SPEAKER_02
Hey, what s up, man?
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SPEAKER_02
Hey, what s going on?
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SPEAKER_02
This is Brandon.
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SPEAKER_01
Yep.
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SPEAKER_01
This is Brandon.
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SPEAKER_02
Have we ever spoken before, Brandon?
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SPEAKER_01
We have not.
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SPEAKER_02
Oh, beautiful.
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SPEAKER_02
Well, what s going on, man?
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SPEAKER_01
Hey, so me and my friends are having a competition to see who can get with the most women before the end of the year.
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SPEAKER_02
Mm hmm.
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SPEAKER_01
And I am in dead last.
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SPEAKER_02
Uh, what was the, what was the impetus of this competition?
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SPEAKER_02
How did this come about?
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SPEAKER_01
Uh, because, um, it was kind of just, uh, like, uh, last year we kind of thought we re talking and I was, my body count is pretty low and all those are pretty high.
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SPEAKER_01
And I was like, well, I guarantee if I really tried to, I could get with more women than any of you guys.
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SPEAKER_02
Okay.
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SPEAKER_02
And are you, what does you really trying to, what does that look like?
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SPEAKER_01
Like actually going out of my way to pursue sexual intimacy with other women.
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SPEAKER_02
Sure.
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SPEAKER_02
How has that endeavor been going for you?
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SPEAKER_01
Absolutely terrible.
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SPEAKER_02
Why has it been going terrible?
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SPEAKER_01
I m pretty bad at talking to women, to be honest.
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SPEAKER_02
You re bad at talking to women?
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SPEAKER_02
Is that what you said?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, it s not my strong suit.
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SPEAKER_02
Okay.
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SPEAKER_02
What are you, are you, um, are you on Tinder or are you, are you, what are you doing?
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SPEAKER_01
It s just like an in-person thing.
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SPEAKER_01
We kind of just go to parties and kind of just my thing.
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SPEAKER_02
How old are you?
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SPEAKER_01
I m 22.
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SPEAKER_02
All right.
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SPEAKER_02
Are you in college?
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SPEAKER_01
No, I m not.
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SPEAKER_02
Okay.
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SPEAKER_02
I mean, what s your... What s your... Like, is this an endeavor coming to you because of social pressure, or loneliness, or sexual frustration?
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SPEAKER_02
Like, what is the true motivation behind this quest?
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SPEAKER_01
To get pussy.
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SPEAKER_01
I m not gonna lie to you.
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SPEAKER_02
Right, but the whole, getting pussy, there s still a motivation behind that, I think.
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SPEAKER_02
And look, the motivation behind that could just be... Look, if your truth is that the motivation behind that is hedonistic, then that s fine, but I just wanna know what, you know, what is the motivation behind getting pussy?
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SPEAKER_01
I think it s to prove something to myself.
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SPEAKER_02
There we go.
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SPEAKER_02
All right.
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SPEAKER_02
That s what I meant.
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SPEAKER_02
That s what we re getting at.
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SPEAKER_01
Can I put the phone down for one minute?
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SPEAKER_01
I m selling a graphics card for a lot of money and it s going to help me.
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SPEAKER_02
You re selling a graphics card for a lot of money?
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
Are you giving up video games in an attempt to be more attractive to the opposite sex?
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SPEAKER_01
I think so, to be honest.
3
SPEAKER_02
Okay.
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SPEAKER_02
How long is it gonna take you to sell this graphics card?
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SPEAKER_01
One minute, Max.
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SPEAKER_02
Alright, you can put me on hold.
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SPEAKER_02
I m gonna say a lot of mean things about you while you re selling this graphics card.
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SPEAKER_01
That s okay with me.
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SPEAKER_01
Alright.
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SPEAKER_01
Give me one minute.
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SPEAKER_01
Please and thank you.
3
SPEAKER_02
This guy sounds like he smells bad.
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SPEAKER_02
Nah, I m just kidding.
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SPEAKER_02
I don t know who he is at all.
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SPEAKER_02
I really want to hang up on him, but I m fascinated by this play.
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SPEAKER_02
I actually don t really want to hang up on him I m fascinated by his plight, and I would like to hear more I
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SPEAKER_01
Wouldn t it be funny if this guy killed him like it was just a craigslist serial killer guy I Never understood like mercury or Craigslist or Facebook like the whole like meeting up with strangers to sell stuff like when you do the internet I
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SPEAKER_01
Although I guess that s kind of what this guy is all about he s like on tinder and meeting up with strangers anyway, so whether it s for you know Romantic sexual interest or to sell a graphics card.
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SPEAKER_01
I guess I guess this guy s meeting up with strangers It s been more than a minute.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know if I have any more ranting within me I
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SPEAKER_01
You don t have time to j- Caller, you don t have time to joke around.
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SPEAKER_01
You gotta get back on the fucking phone.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t wanna hear you laughing.
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SPEAKER_01
This guy s yucking it up.
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SPEAKER_01
I m on hold.
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SPEAKER_01
Listen to this guy yuck it up with the Craigslist killer.
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SPEAKER_01
What are you doing?
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SPEAKER_01
Alright.
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SPEAKER_01
Alright Brandon, we can um...
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SPEAKER_01
We can include those rants, but I m gonna just wait until he comes back.
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SPEAKER_01
I m back.
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SPEAKER_01
I m back.
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SPEAKER_01
I m back.
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SPEAKER_01
All right.
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SPEAKER_01
You re back.
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SPEAKER_01
There we go.
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SPEAKER_01
All right.
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SPEAKER_01
I was about to... All right.
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SPEAKER_00
All right.
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SPEAKER_01
Sorry about that.
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SPEAKER_01
I actually wasn t about to do anything.
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SPEAKER_01
I was... I m in a pretty... Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
I heard... I heard my name.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you were... you were yucking it.
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SPEAKER_01
You were making jokes.
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SPEAKER_01
I... I know.
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SPEAKER_01
I know.
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SPEAKER_01
You were hit... you were... you re hitting on anyone that moves.
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SPEAKER_01
You were hitting on the person you were selling the graphics card to.
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SPEAKER_00
It was a little Asian guy.
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SPEAKER_00
Why not?
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SPEAKER_01
Jesus Christ, man.
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SPEAKER_01
All right.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, okay, okay, okay, so let me Okay, so the whole thing is that I have two bodies and all my friends are like mid 20s 30s And it s kind of like a it s kind of like a thing.
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SPEAKER_00
They like put me down.
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SPEAKER_00
It s You know, I thought it was kind of just to prove something to myself that I could not so much prove it to them all right, so
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SPEAKER_01
What, I mean, what exactly are you trying to prove to yourself here?
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SPEAKER_01
Because, you know, I ll tell you this.
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SPEAKER_01
I ve been there, I ve been like, you know, I remember when I was in high school, I was like one of the last of my friends to have sex.
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SPEAKER_01
And, you know, I remember that making me, you know, right, feel in that way, like you needed to prove something, like, you know, I needed to prove something to myself.
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SPEAKER_01
Or, you know, it made me, you know, feel lesser than and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_01
You know, so I understand where this is coming from, but can you go in more on what you mean when you say you re trying to prove something to yourself?
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SPEAKER_00
So I think it s just like trying to give myself some type of worth.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know if that s the right word for it.
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SPEAKER_01
Sure.
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SPEAKER_00
It s like I m trying to prove something to myself, but just when you keep kind of failing, it s kind of like,
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SPEAKER_00
It s like I m starting to get the feeling that like this doesn t really matter in a way You know, I think
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SPEAKER_01
I actually, you know, I remember having several moments where I, like, learned this lesson in real time.
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SPEAKER_01
Especially when it comes to, like, the pursuit of sex, you know?
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SPEAKER_01
And it s like, I remember in college, I was like, a number, like a number of girls that you ve slept with, I m telling you right now, it s not going to
4
SPEAKER_01
It is not a long-lasting solution to any sort of lack of self-esteem or self-worth.
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SPEAKER_00
I think that s more what it is.
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SPEAKER_00
I m a pretty good-looking guy.
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SPEAKER_00
I ll say it not in a cocky way, but I just don t know how to use my words.
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SPEAKER_00
I get nervous.
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SPEAKER_00
You know, you see a pretty little Latina girl standing there and you just get nervous.
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SPEAKER_01
You got to stop with the race thing.
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SPEAKER_01
I m going to tell you that right now.
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SPEAKER_01
If you just stop, stop doing that.
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SPEAKER_01
Just stop.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know what you re, I can already kind of tell why the words aren t working.
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SPEAKER_01
You got to stop doing that.
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SPEAKER_01
I look, I don t, I don t think you re a bad guy and I understand where you re coming from, but you got to stop doing that.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01
Um, okay.
4
SPEAKER_01
Where were we?
4
SPEAKER_01
Um, what, what, tell me, tell me in your, in your life in general, do you feel like you have a low kind of self worth?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00
Like I grew up, like I was in and out of foster care as a kid and it was, it just, I feel like that kind of was the start of it.
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SPEAKER_00
Like, no self-worth.
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SPEAKER_01
Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_01
Um... Hmm.
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SPEAKER_01
Okay.
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SPEAKER_01
Alright, so this is like... I mean, this is... We re in real therapy territory.
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SPEAKER_01
This is like an issue that stems from your childhood.
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SPEAKER_00
Yes.
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SPEAKER_00
You know, my parents, like... I can t really blame them.
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SPEAKER_00
They were, like... They were... Mid-high school.
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SPEAKER_00
And, like, back then, like...
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SPEAKER_00
abortion wasn t really a feasible option.
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SPEAKER_01
You had teenage parents.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
That s rough.
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Yeah.
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Let me ask you, let me ask you a question.
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Have you ever gone to real therapy to talk about this?
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No.
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Okay, well, look, I m just a dumbass in a gecko costume.
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I m a little high right now, too.
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Which I m not normally, and I regret just now admitting it, but I m trying to be more myself, so I m gonna be honest with you.
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But if you have the opportunity to, you should go and talk to someone, because it sounds like there s some
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Deeper rooted issues if we can I think establish something from just us talking right now Anything I hope it is that you understand I mean you you clearly understand this because you re talking to me about it And I didn t even have to you know dive too deep into you for you to say something is that whatever is going on with you in terms of this lack of
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Confidence or self-esteem.
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It s something deeper that you re not gonna solve by you know Going and and and fucking a bunch of different people So yeah for that so then for you to then get sad about the fact that you re not fucking a bunch of people and have that be You know limiting then have that be like a hit to your self-esteem and
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is why are you it s like it s like it s meaningless because it s not even the thing that is causing your low self-esteem does that are you following me does that make sense yeah yeah so i mean it s not even the fact that like they don t necessarily want to sleep with me it s like i think i get more of like a thrive off of just the interaction itself
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Yeah, no, that s, I know you, are you saying you thrive off of like, just this idea, you know, not even like, you know, like sleeping with someone, but just this idea that like, somebody would want to sleep with you, like that makes you feel attractive?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Think I feel like that s a feeling that you know Is all people chase I don t even I don t think that s a gender thing even I feel yeah Everyone it s a common thing that people people want to feel like they want to feel attractive.
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So yeah But it but that goes that goes back to why like why do you Feel like I ll need that so
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every single relationship I ve been a part of, I ve been cheated on.
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And it s, you know, it s just like, like, obviously they don t like me or they don t want me.
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Or so it s like, just, just to get out there and get that feeling of, um, not love, but like just attraction.
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Right.
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Like, I don t want to go into like a new relationship.
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Cause that just, it just opens up scars and then you can,
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I d rather just get that little bit, get that little.
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bit here and there to keep me going without having to jump into a whole something new.
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But then, you know, and then, but I m not, I m not sleeping with these women.
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So then it s like this whole trade that me and a couple of friends are doing is just, it s not working out in my favor, like for the quote unquote game.
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But it s like it s feet.
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It s feeding me a little bit, but I think I I also and This is a whole other thing that I want to I have other things I kind of want to talk about with this first, but I think It s this isn t it s a mistake to gamify this mm-hmm I Think it s a mistake to gamify this because that s not that s not the game you want to be playing I
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Because, for a lot of reasons.
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One, I don t know if this competition is something you want to brag to other people about.
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That s one.
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But two, it s like... The games you want to play are going to be games with yourself.
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Not games with like, oh, how many girls can I sleep with?
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Or how much, you know, external...
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you know, positive feedback can I get that will fill up my cup.
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And it s weird, I m thinking about it right now because, yeah, when you get that positive feedback and it s sort of like...
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It s like a quick fix.
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It s like eating fast food or something like that.
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It makes you feel really good in the moment, but it s not a- it s not a great long-term, uh, you know, play.
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Because you still, at the end of the day, whether- if you re not, you know, comfortable with yourself, then you re fucked.
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No- no- no amount of you, you know, no amount of- of- of Tinder hookups is gonna- to make you feel comfortable with yourself.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I feel like the game I m playing is just making it worse, too.
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You know, if you get denied and then it s like, oh, like the self-worth drops again.
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But like, the talking brings it back up and then you get shot down.
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You know?
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What s your name again?
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Brandon.
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What else do you do with your life, Brandon?
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I work.
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I work.
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I do
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I design 3D, I 3D print a lot of stuff.
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I m kind of like a closeted nerd.
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Can I ask you this then?
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And I m trying to, I feel like, by the way, I just gotta snap out of it for a second.
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I feel like I ve been going real hard therapy mode on this call.
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No, I m enjoying just talking to you.
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What what aspects of yourself do you feel?
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at unsettled with let s say um I Don t like wearing shorts because I have cankles Not fat.
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I just I just have cankles.
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I just have really thick thighs Or like ankles um I wear glasses Like my hairline starting to fade back a little bit, but it s not it s nothing like you can t really look past You know what I mean?
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You can still look in the mirror and be like, all right, I still look good You know, I m gonna this I used to talk about this on the stream more I haven t read it in a long time, but I read this book a little while ago It s it s by a guy named Mark Manson who wrote he wrote this other book that was like super popular called the the subtle art of not giving a fuck and
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Oh, I remember, yeah.
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I remember you bringing that up.
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Yeah, I ve talked about this before.
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He wrote this other book that I thought was really interesting called Models.
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Okay.
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It s sort of a dating book.
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And the thesis of it, I really like the thesis of it, which is basically like, you know, it s not about
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What a game or like how to say the right thing or anything like that?
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It s more about like?
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Why how do you like before anything?
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How do you make yourself into a person?
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Where you like yourself, and you like who you are and you like your life, and you re living you know honest yourself And then how do you honestly project that out into the world and the idea that if you do those things?
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You know, you just become a more naturally attractive person, which I think is an interesting thing.
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And who s that book by again?
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A guy named Mark Manson.
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Okay.
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What do you do for work again?
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You just told me, but I forgot.
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Oh, I don t think I told you.
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I work for a recycling company.
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I operate an appliance crusher, so I just crush appliances all day.
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That sounds awesome.
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It sounds like it would give me all the sexual, um, pleasure that I would need.
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Oh, dude, it s, it s cool.
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It gets, it s, it s pretty cool.
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It is pretty cool.
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Um, are you, is this like kind of the only aspect of your life that you re feeling unhappy with is, is kind of the, the romantic sexual sphere of, of humanity?
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Um,
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Yeah, at the moment, at the moment right now.
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Yeah, I would, I would say that s kind of my, my big thing.
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But I don t know.
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I find a lot of joy in a lot of things.
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Good, good.
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Keep doing that.
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I don t know, it s a hard, it s in general, for men and women, really hard to navigate that spectrum of life.
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I myself am pretty fucking terrible at it, so.
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I don t know, but.
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Photography is fun, it s really fun to take pictures of stuff.
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What s the last thing you took a picture of?
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Uh, the Chicago skyline.
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I was, um, I ve been listening to- I listened to that song by Kanye West, Homecoming.
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You know that one?
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Yeah, yeah, I know that one.
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It s a sick song.
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It s about Chicago.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I live like 30 minutes from where, uh, from where Ye was.
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I feel like since I m Jewish, I m allowed to listen to Kanye West.
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Is that fair?
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I think everyone should listen to Kanye West.
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You just keep raising those flags, my friend.
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I know.
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No, I like Kanye.
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I try not to pay attention to the media too much.
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You never know.
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Do you sound like...
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you re are you like in the I don t know the I don t know what you would call it the the the dark web of the internet whatever they call that um if you ve been read it then yeah um look go I don t know lift some weights stop referring to people by their race okay
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Go try to talk to some people.
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Eat a sandwich.
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I ve got a question for you.
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I might answer it.
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What is it?
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What was it like meeting Eric Andre?
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It was cool.
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He s a cool guy and I m a big fan.
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Oh my.
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Yeah, it was a lot different.
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The podcast with Eric was a lot different than what I thought it was going to be.
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What did you think it was going to be?
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I like how you guys talked about portraying yourself, how you portray yourself when he s going around the city putting his tongue in people s mouths going, bird up.
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It was weird.
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It was like seeing a whole different side of him.
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Um, it was, I was, it was kinda, there was a funny moment where, um, I handed, like, we take, we use AirPods to, um, like, listen to the calls and stuff, and so I handed him a set of AirPods, and he, he, he was like, are these clean?
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And I said to him, I was like, I wasn t, I wasn t expecting him to ask me that, because I have seen him, um, you know, put his fingers in several strangers  mouths, but, um,
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The way he described it was that he s only, you know, he s a totally, totally different guy when he s performing than when he s living his normal life, but he was a cool guy.
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I m glad, I m very appreciative of him for doing the podcast.
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Yeah, that was, that was, I was, oh, and
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And Danny Brown.
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You had Danny Brown on the podcast, didn t you?
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Yeah.
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Hey, I got a question for you.
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What s it like being friends with Devin?
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Devin?
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I took a wild guess that one of your friends  names was Devin.
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No, I don t have any friends named Devin.
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That s not true.
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You have these weird friends that you re making this bet with.
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Who are these friends, by the way?
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I got my boy.
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I got my boy Carson and I got my boy Dylan.
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Okay.
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Friends from childhood.
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Okay.
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Are they good guys?
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Are you friends with them?
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Do you like them?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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They want, they want homies.
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That s, that s the most important thing in life, I think, is to have good friends.
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Someone that, you know, you have, you can lean on a little bit.
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Well, Brandon, um, was this conversation remotely helpful for you?
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Lyle, just hearing your voice made it all worth it.
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And yeah, it was helpful.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Stop buying Kia Souls and Ford Explorers because you look like cops.
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My last piece of advice is that you should take more walks in the park than you do looking at car facts on Reddit.
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Maybe that will make you, I don t know, maybe that will improve your life somehow.
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Anyway, that was a douchey thing to say.
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Take care, man.
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Thanks for calling.
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Absolutely.
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Thanks, man.
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Have a great night.
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You too.
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Bye.
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I feel like I feel like that guy I feel like nothing that I said to that guy got was he listened to I ve been that guy I ve been in college being like oh I need to have sex with people so that I can feel good about myself it s a terrible terrible pursuit
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He s teaching you how to live your life But he s not really an expert