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Hello?
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What s your name, Squire?
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Uh... You can give me a name.
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Alright, I m gonna call you Ethan.
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Ethan, what s up?
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How can I, uh... How can I be on the phone with you today?
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Well, it s been, uh... A crazy past 24 hours, to be honest.
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Tell me why.
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And... Also, uh... I just had a... An ex-girlfriend from, uh...
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It s a long story.
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I don t know if you want to take it back 10 years ago.
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And then, uh, I don t know if he saw a message saying, uh, it was wrong for me to steal her family pictures out of anger.
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So yeah, you mentioned that you, you stole your ex girlfriend s family photos now.
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Um, well, how many did you steal?
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Uh,
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a full album and whatever was on the wall.
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Just like you were, was this from her place or like her mom s place or what?
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This was her place.
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I was living with her and I was just like, uh, so I don t know if we, if we take it back, I guess it s 10 years ago we met, I was married and uh,
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We kind of, we were trying to do a little fuck buddy situation and it didn t work out.
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Uh, we, we ended up catching feelings and I was still married.
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So it, it didn t, it didn t, it wasn t working for her.
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So we broke off 10 years later.
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I m single.
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I made up my, my life, you know, started up my own company and uh,
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You know, I was doing pretty good.
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So she comes in back into my life 10 years later and she pretty much, after I committed on giving up my dogs, my shop, she tells me she wasn t ready for a relationship, you know?
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So I have her photos and I m thinking about burning them and sending them back to her so she could feel the same pain I felt when my dog got put down.
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So that s a pretty, pretty big story to take on right now.
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And that s where I m at right now.
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Okay, I m confused on several aspects of this.
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The first one is why did you... I know.
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We ll get there.
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Why did you have to kill your dog to be in a relationship with this woman?
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Well, uh... I was moving back.
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I was trying to move into her estate and I couldn t find... I didn t know this was a high-risk kill shelter dog location.
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And, uh...
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I was, I was on the timeline, let s just say.
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So me not thinking what type of dog shelter I took me to ended up finding out like two, three months later that, you know, they got put down.
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So you get, all right.
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So you, so this woman comes back into your life.
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She lives how, how many States over does she live?
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Uh, one stayed over a bit.
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This is about, you know, over three over.
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It s from I m in Portland.
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So she s in California.
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All right.
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Like L.A.
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area.
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So.
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All right.
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All right.
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And you gave this dog up to a shelter.
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Why do they do that?
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Is that a thing?
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You give a dog up for adoption or to a shelter and they just they fucking kill it.
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Does that really happen?
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Well, they got to they got to find a house for them if they can t find a rehoming
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home.
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They, you know, depending on the dog, if it s aggressive or not, you know, they, they, they decide from there.
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Yeah, that is kind of fucked up.
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And these were great days.
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You know, I had them from babies and I don t for at least four years before this woman came back into my life.
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How, how, how old?
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Wait, so it was two dogs?
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Yeah, it was two, two, two great days.
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I was the owner of three dogs that kept my little Frenchie.
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And so that s the only, my, my only little buddy at the moment.
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Man, so you had a Frenchie and two great Danes, you gave the two great Danes.
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How old were they?
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They were about five, six.
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They were just a year apart.
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Damn, that s kind of young to just kill a fucking dog.
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Yeah, I mean, like I said, I should have done more research.
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I wasn t on a timeline and I was committed to this person that I guess didn t... I mean, I don t know.
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I don t know if I m going to put that on you, man.
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I mean, is that... I don t know.
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I don t know how that universe works, but there s got to be something better you can do with the...
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Like, shelter-wise, if you ve got a bunch of people coming to you with dogs, there s got to be something better to do with them than kill them.
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I mean, yeah.
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I mean, they were there for about a month and a half or two before I called.
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I mean, I was nervous to call in to find out if they were still there or if they got adopted.
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So once my friend called in, I found out that they put them down.
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That s fucked up, man.
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I m sorry to hear that.
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I m still, I m honestly shocked that that s what they do instead of just... I mean, I guess, I don t know what else they would do with him, I guess, if there s no space for him.
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But there s gotta be something better they can do than that.
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I don t know.
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Anyway.
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I m sorry to hear about your dogs, man.
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Also, I m not gonna put it on your girlfriend.
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No, no.
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It s all on me.
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I decided, you know, I should have done research.
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You know, I decided to do stuff like that.
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But, you know, I also decided to, like, you know, because I also have kids and I decided to, you know, spend time away from the kids.
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You have kids?
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Yeah, I got kids.
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How many kids?
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I got three girls, twelve, ten, or fourteen, twelve, and a three-year-old.
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Twelve, ten, and three.
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Yeah, or, I mean, it s 14, 12, and 3, sorry.
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14, 12, and 3, okay.
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And are they with the woman who you were married with?
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Yes.
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I mean, they re taken care of and everything, but, you know, I gave up, you know, time and I gave up a lot just to, you know, accommodate to this person.
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And about maybe on Sunday, she decided to tell me she wasn t ready after a year and I don t know how long that she was in a relationship.
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And so I packed up all my shit.
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Where are you?
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Oh, I want to get there.
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But like, where where are your kids?
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Are they like, do they live with with their mom?
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Yeah, they live with their mom there.
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How long, how long have you and your wife been divorced?
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Uh, over three years or so.
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How often were you, were you seeing, did you guys have a split custody agreement or were they kind of like mainly with mom?
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What s, what s your deal with that?
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Uh, it was pretty open, you know, it was there, you know, we didn t live too far from each other.
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It was, I could go pick them up on the weekend.
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I could go pick them up, you know,
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It was a very neutral relationship.
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So you and your ex-wife had like a decent co-parenting relationship.
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There s no crazy animosity or anything, right?
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No.
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When she came into the live, everything was all good.
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She came back in.
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And of course, there s some anger because, you know, it s the same person that came along 10 years ago.
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I decided to drop my whole life.
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Well, hold on.
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I m talking about your ex-wife.
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You and your ex-wife are cool.
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I m not talking about this woman just yet.
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How old are you, by the way?
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I am too old for this high school stuff.
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I m like 36.
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All right.
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Okay.
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So you re living in Portland.
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Uh, you re single.
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I was hoping to catch your show too, but tickets are all sold out by now.
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So you re living in Portland, you re single, you got your three dogs, you see your kids fairly regularly, and then, um... Yeah, I do, I got a, had a shop, have a, had a shop.
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Right, okay, and then, and then you mentioned that shop.
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I m glad you brought that up again.
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So why, why did you have to get rid of your shop because you were moving?
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So I closed it because I wanted to spend, you know, more time in California.
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So, uh, I closed the shop so I could, you know, move to California to be with this person and I had to do it.
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Otherwise, um, I was flying, like I said, I was flying back and forth for a good while and
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It became an issue that I was flying out.
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And then it became an issue that I wasn t communicating while I was out.
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And, you know, while I was out, you know, I was focused on my work because I have a short timeline.
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When you say you were flying back and forth to see this woman, and when you were back in Portland, she said that there was an issue with you guys not communicating?
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Yeah.
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But when I m in Portland, I m focused on my work.
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I want to get it done.
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What do you do?
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I do vehicle wraps.
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I don t want to mention the name of the shop.
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I do vehicle wraps and, uh, you know, I have a good career.
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I got a good, good thing.
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A hundred and six K figure a year for the past.
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The shop was open for six years before this woman came back into my life.
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So I was doing, I was doing good.
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Okay.
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And so when did you decide to fully move from Portland to California?
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So the decision took place when I was renting.
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I was renting out.
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The dogs were a little bit of an issue, but I didn t mind.
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I ended up renting out a house to have my dogs with me.
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I had their paperwork all ready.
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I could have just rented out a house at the yard and you know... When did you decide to move from Portland to California?
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When the apartment complex where I was
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living that decided that my dogs were they re big what we re a little bit today in the complex just just real quick so it s it is may of 2024 when did you decide to move from california from portland to california uh that was uh
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About September, November of last year.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And then when did this woman decide that she did not want a relationship?
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I m just trying to get an idea of the time.
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Yes, Sunday.
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This Sunday?
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Yes, this is so fresh.
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This is Sunday.
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Okay.
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So you re, are you calling, are you in California right now?
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Did you move in with her in her place in California?
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Okay, so you left your place in Portland, moved in with her and her place in California.
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She says she doesn t, and you re living there for a few months.
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Quite a time, yes.
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Like nine months, almost a year.
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Yeah, flying back and forth and working and trying to make things.
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I was away from her and I had my own bills.
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I had my bills I had to take care of.
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California rate was not cutting for me to, you know, pay that off and, and live.
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So I had to keep flying back and forth to make up the difference.
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Okay.
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I mean, so you were doing a lot.
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You were going, you weren t even moved into California.
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You were just, you never even really fully moved to California.
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You were always going back and forth.
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Correct.
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All right.
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So now I assume you don t talk to this woman anymore.
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No, no.
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I don t want you to talk to her.
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And I hope she ends her little courtesy and reaching back out to see how I was doing 10 years later.
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Because yeah, this really shook my whole lot.
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Hmm.
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Uh, oh yeah.
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I almost honestly forgot about the family photos thing.
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Don t let me forget about that cause we re going to get into that.
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Yeah.
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I haven t forgot about that either.
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Your where are, I mean this is really fresh.
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This is, I mean Sunday, that s three days ago.
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Yes.
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And you re back in Portland.
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Are you at your place?
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Do you have a place?
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I have a place.
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Yes.
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I was renting out a place, a room.
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Everything s all good right now.
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For now, I feel like I don t know.
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I don t know what s going on.
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And so she tells you this in person on Sunday in California, you storm out of her house, taking a bunch of her family photos.
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I did.
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I mean, I actually, you know, I was I wanted to see if she could just, you know, talk it out, you know, I did sacrifice or I did.
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I did.
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I moved a lot of pieces.
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to be with a woman.
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So I was just hoping, you know, to, to have the benefit of doubt to like, you know, prove that I was committed or something like that.
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How you doing Ethan?
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Um, I m angry.
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Um,
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So, I mean, look, man, I got a few things.
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One is, and you have the family photos right now, right?
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And you said you wanna angrily burn them?
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Yes, and send them right back at her, you know?
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She could live with the, I have to live with my memory of my dog, so she could live with the memory of her.
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Okay.
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Her only childhood memories.
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I m gonna try to give it.
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Would you let me try to give you a compelling reason why to not do that?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I ve been thinking about this all day.
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Okay.
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I m gonna try to give you a compelling reason why to not do that.
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Because look, man, I
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I get it.
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I get what was behind moving all of the pieces and sometimes people move all of the pieces of their life for another person to go move somewhere else and it works out and they re happy and that s great.
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And so that s why I ve recently, um, you know, not felt like it was the,
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ultimate thing to do to not do that.
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But ultimately, I don t think stuff like that s a good idea.
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And here s why you shouldn t burn the family photos is because for the past year or however long that you ve been maneuvering around the pieces of your life to be with this woman, you have let this woman
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And kind of more importantly, the emotions surrounding this woman influence and dictate what you re going to do with your life.
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And I think for you to like heal and get better, you have to let that go immediately.
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And when you burn her family photos out of anger and send them back to her out of anger, you are continuing to allow this woman and your emotions surrounding this woman to direct your life.
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So if you want to stop that immediately,
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you would just send the photos back you don t need a whole I mean apologize if you want you don t need a whole thing you don t need a whole whatever just send them back and start focusing on rebuilding your life because if you burn them out of anger and you re sitting around burning them fucking fuck
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or fuck this I m pissed off fuck that you know you re just diving deeper into the emotional bullshit that got you into this thing in the first place so if you really want to let it go and move on with your life I would return the photos
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cause letting your emotions towards this woman guide you is what got you here in the first place so the first step of being like I am no longer going to do that is saying I m no longer going to follow the anger that I have towards this person by burning this shit and I m just gonna let it go and move on what do you think about any of that?
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Uh, from hearing that, you know, I feel at peace and something I should, I should do, but I don t know.
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I, um, like I said, I, I felt like, like I abandoned my kids.
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You felt like you abandoned your kids?
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I mean, I m going like I could I could see the girls, my girls on a daily basis if I wanted to.
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Ethan, Ethan, Ethan.
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And Ethan.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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Dude, there s still time.
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You have a three-year-old, and a 12-year-old, and a 14-year-old, and you re in Portland, and you have the greatest, you still have, like, you re acting like you ve burned everything to the fucking ground, man.
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There s still time, like, if I were you, man, like, fucking send the photos back and go hang out with your kids.
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and go be a dad and go be like I m gonna fucking you know I m not gonna sit here and beat myself up and go fuck this and and dwell and go do things out of anger be like you know what I m gonna cut my fucking losses look to the future hey I can still rebuild my shop hey I can still be a dad to my kids
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Hey, I can still be a good dog dad to this Frenchie, you know?
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And the time that you re spending focusing in stewing in your anger by burning these fucking photos is just a distraction from the opportunity that you have to do those things.
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Yeah.
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Are you there, Ethan?
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Yeah, I m still here, Ethan.
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Does any of this resonate with you?
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Yeah.
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I mean, like I said, I haven t spoken to anybody about this.
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And I feel dumb.
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Why do you feel dumb?
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I feel better just, you know, speaking about it and listening to someone else s feedback.
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Those are my own thoughts.
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Dude, I m telling you.
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I ll just say everything I just said again.
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It s like,
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You have the opportunity, like everything you re talking about, being a better dad to your kids, doing better for your business, taking care of your dog, you can still do all of it.
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And you can do all of it really well now that you re not distracted by what s going on in California.
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And if you want to feel better, you would start doing that instead of distracting yourself by getting really pissed off and burning this woman s photos.
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Yeah.
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Okay, well, yeah, I ll definitely
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Talk to me Ethan, what s going on?
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I mean... It was just... I don t know, I just don t understand why after 10 years she would, you know, text me from a number that wasn t even hers and come back into my life, you know?
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Why did she question the love that I had towards her while I was moving all these pieces?
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There were just too many pieces that were moved in this timeline to just be okay, fuck it, whatever.
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Dude, listen, listen, I know that it s very hard, because you ve moved around a bunch of shit, and you clearly have very strong feelings towards this woman.
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But just, bro, whatever you do, don t convince yourself that you have no life.
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You have... You ve got three kids, man.
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No, no, I admit it.
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I know I got a lot.
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I know I can rebuild myself, and my shop, and that shit.
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It took me years to make six figures, and I know it s just... It s just, the reset is what s, you know, bothering the most.
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Because I did tell her that, you know, if we were going to try this relationship, I didn t want to reset.
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And I have to do.
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Ethan?
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Yeah.
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Um... What s up?
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I don t know.
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I m okay.
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Let me just... Oh, I m definitely gonna take in the consideration just melting them back in and... Cut my losses.
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Okay.
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I know I could do... I know I could do whatever.
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I know I could do... I have the resources to do...
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Take some time to mourn.
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It s cool to take some time to mourn.
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It s totally cool to take some time to mourn.
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And you should.
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And you don t have to rebuild right away.
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You can take some time to mourn.
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I was, like, I was even losing a paycheck.
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But dude, dude, just do whatever you do.
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Don t, don t burn those photos.
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Not because of anything with her, but because it will only deepen your issues.
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It won t make them better.
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Thank you.
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Ethan, is there anything else that you want to say about any of this or to the people of the computer?
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I really think things through.
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And I dive into the unknown.
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Alright, take care Ethan.
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I ll say it one more time, if you get anything out of this, re-watch this if you can.
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I will, I will.
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If it was helpful to you, okay?
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Rewatch this if you can, man, cause... You re gonna... Cause you also, you might get like a little... Tinge of motivation.
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And then go right back to being like, fuck this, fuck her, fuck everything.
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But you just gotta keep reminding yourself that you got a good life and you gotta... Give your attention to serving the life that you already have.
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Instead of mourning... This life with this woman.
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Cause you got a pretty damn good life already with her or without her.
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Thank you, Jeff.
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Take care, Ethan.
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Thank you.
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Life is crazy.
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I guess there is something kind of funny about like, like it s a picture of her at Disneyland on the Splash Mountain ride, and it s just burning in a fire.
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Still don t do it.
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Don t do it.
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What s up, man?
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What s up, dude?
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What s your name?
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Uh, this is Ian.
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How s your life going, Ian?
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It s going great.
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All right.
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So this is my first stream I ve watched.
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I ve been working on YouTube for a couple of weeks now.
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So I logged on, I like got my Twitch set up and then I followed you and then I saw your stream.
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So I m like, fuck it, I ll send a text.
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I feel blessed to be the first person you call.
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Nice, man.
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Nice.
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Well, um, Ian, yeah, you texted me and you said that you re a driving instructor.
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And then you wrote after that, you said, I guess that s a good conversation.
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And, uh, I m curious.
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Have you ever been in a car with somebody that you re instructing on how to drive and, uh, they crash into somebody and kill them?
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Um, no, no, definitely.
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I don t, I don t think I still have a job if that happened.
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Really?
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I mean, I feel like you don t have liability in that situation.
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Well, I mean, I have like a little brake pedal, so I have, I have some modicum of control, but if you re in that much, if you re in the passenger seat and somebody in the driver s seat runs over somebody and kills them, are you legally liable because you have your own brake?
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I mean, maybe, I don t know.
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I m sure somewhere in the world, someone has been on a driving lesson and run over somebody else.
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I can see that happening, for sure.
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Are you a good driver?
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Personally, I ve been pretty good, yeah, the past few months, yeah.
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I mean, when I was younger, definitely.
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I mean, younger isn t like a few years ago.
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Definitely not the best driver, but yeah, I ve chilled out for sure a little bit.
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Now, when you say you weren t the best driver, what made you not a good driver, and what did you chill out to become a better driver?
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Yeah, I was mainly a pretty bad speeder when I was younger, so I would just kind of go out super late at night and just drive super, super fucking fast.
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Do you ever get the urge to do that again?
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Um, no, not so much.
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I try to keep it under 90, which is still a pretty big number, but under 90 less than under 90.
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Yeah.
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What s the speed limit where you live?
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Oh, like 75.
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Okay.
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So in my mind, that s not, that s not too much, but yeah, it s still 15 over, which is kind of a lot, but no, yeah, usually about like 75 or 80 when I m driving around, but
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there s sometimes I get a little bit of road rage for sure.
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You get a little bit of road rage, you say?
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Very rarely.
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Yeah, very rarely.
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There s some crazy drivers out here.
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Really?
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Because I imagine you as like some kind of Zen master of driving where nothing bothers you.
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But what gives you road rage?
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Is it people going slow?
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Is it people cutting you off?
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Is it people entering your car?
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taking all the stuffing out of your seats?
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What gives it gives you road rage?
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Okay well yeah taking all the stuffing out of my seats would probably be the last.
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It s already pretty uncomfortable in my car but no it s usually people that pass like a little like uncomfortably too close.
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I can get you know some people just don t see me but sometimes it s like okay like I see you in my rear view you re coming up at like a hundred and ten or whatever I m going like speed limit
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And then you decide to do some super close shit.
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And I m like, I don t want to hit anybody, but that makes me mad.
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I know it shouldn t, but it does.
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Hey, I got a question for you.
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Yeah.
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What s your take on walking?
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My take on walking.
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It s not too bad, man.
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It s not too bad.
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Um, I mean, given a good pair of shoes and you know, not terribly hot weather.
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Yeah, I could walk.
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What was your dream when you were a child?
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My dream, like the, like dream goal in life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I always wanted to be a pilot.
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Yeah.
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You all right.
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Look, I mean, like I m an airplane.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like a plane, an airplane.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I mean, you did pretty good if that was your goal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, cause you re not, I mean, you re a pilot.
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No, I mean, you are a pilot, but just of a car, which I guess is not that special because most, a lot of people, they give a driver s license a lot more freely than plane licenses, which by the way, I don t think that they should.
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I think it should be just as hard to get a driver s license as it is to get a plane one because, um, it s safer to fly on a plane than be in a car.
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Yeah, that s totally true.
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Yeah, it s a lot more.
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I mean, in some places that is a little bit harder.
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I ve watched videos like on Germany, they have to do some things like hours, like crazy amount of hours of like studying and taking all these tests.
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But right.
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That s true.
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It s incredibly easy to get a license.
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Dude, you can be 16 and high and they ll let you drive a car.
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It s pretty wild.
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Nobody s going to say anything.
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Nobody stops you.
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And that s the thing.
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Like I do.
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just like multiple hours of talking to students and they re all about like 16 or whatever.
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I just, I talked to them about like random shit.
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It s very unique position.
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So I guess I just talked to them.
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And it sounds like for some reason, yeah, a lot of people do like smoking at that age, but they re all high.
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They re all every 16 year old that you were teaching how to drive is high while you re teaching them because you learn when you re like in high school, every like weed person you learn.
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Okay.
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Look, look, look.
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Driving Stones is a DUI.
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It s a DUI, alright?
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You can t argue with it.
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It is undeniably a DUI.
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But at some point, like if you have an old
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sibling or like some some other kid tells you that you can drive high and it s not that big of a deal and you believe them forever
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And you drive, and also because like driving around in a car, they call it a blunt ride.
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Driving around in a car, getting high at 16, dangerous thing to do.
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But also, I mean, the most fun that you ll ever have in your entire life until you get a DUI and your life sucks from then on.
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But every kid that you re teaching how to drive is incredibly stoned.
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I mean,
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I believe it.
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In some cases, I would definitely, definitely believe it.
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Well, the thing that s crazy, too, is there s no, like, compared to, like, alcohol, there s no, like, roadside, real, like, serious test that tells, you know, yes or no if you re high.
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It s just, you know, if your eyes are red, I guess.
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I don t know.
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I ve never, I ve never run into that problem, but I could definitely see that being the case, every student being high, and that s only slightly concerning, because nobody s crashed yet, so I guess they re doing a good job at it.
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Some people say that they re better drivers when they re high, but I don t believe them at all.
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I mean, people have said that about being drunk too, and I don t believe them.
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Do you get high?
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Do you smoke weed?
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Um, I mean, I ve kind of chilled out maybe like once a month.
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I definitely used to be daily user, but maybe like once a month now.
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Yeah.
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When you, were you driving high?
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Remember when you were saying you were speeding?
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When you re going 90, when you re going 95, are you stoned out of your gourd?
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Not recently, but as far as the past goes, maybe, maybe not.
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I ll put the fifth on that one.
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Okay.
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Does that disqualify you from being a driver, driving instructor, if you ve ever gotten high?
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They never asked me about that.
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I mean, I would assume they probably frown upon you being high while you re teaching people how to drive, but they never said anything.
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Do they drug test you for that?
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No, I mean they pulled my driving record and that was pretty much the extent of like any background check Why there should be like a driving school that you go to to learn how?
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to drive drunk Like they teach you how to do it so that and and and it should and I m like it should still be illegal and
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and you still shouldn t do it but there s it s kind of like how you know how there s um like safe injection spots the kind of thing where it s like people are gonna do it anyway so let s you know kind of prep them for it let s do a drunk driving school where you can drive drunk which you shouldn t do and should definitely be illegal but if you re gonna do it here s the here s how to do it I guess
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Yeah like here s why you should not do it because I guess everybody gets to crash while they re drunk once and then say well I went to drunk driving school I m not going to do it again.
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Yeah.
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What if there was there should actually be like you re not allowed to get drunk and ride bumper cars or go karts or something but they should really just like idiot proof.
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maybe like a dome or an arena or something and like make some really really fuzzy cars put like a bunch of padding on them and shit and be like all right in this one instance you can get drunk and drive in this controlled environment for all the i think that would like curb drunk driving
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We like a purge of drunk driving, but it was like one doe is like a big dome complex, where everything is padded and pillows and I don t know if pillows are gonna stop a car crash.
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But you know, I m saying?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of like how they do like the drag race, like the cops will show up to like drag races and like race race a cop type deal.
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I don t, I don t know if you ever heard of that.
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I do know.
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I don t know if that had anything to do with what I was talking about, but also I don t, I don t know what I was talking about even really made any sense.
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So that s okay.
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Um, it s totally do it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What s your, do you, would you ever do a drag race?
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Are you fast?
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Do you think you could do well in a drag race?
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Um, me, well, it depends on my car, I guess.
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Cause it s just kind of like jump the throne and go, I ve done some,
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A couple races at like, well not necessarily races, but some like track days for sure going around track, but I haven t done any drag racing, no.
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Do you think you d be good if you were to do drag racing?
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Yeah, I don t know if my car would be good.
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I don t think, I don t think it would like that very much, but yeah, I could definitely try it, sure.
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One of my, I actually might ve talked about this on the podcast before, but one of my favorite Onion articles is, um, driving instructor has own gas pedal in case student, a total pussy.
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No, there are definitely some times I wish I had like Bluetooth gas pedal.
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Cause you know, we ll like make a turn or something.
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I m like, okay, there s a car coming to like 45 and returning going like 10.
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Like we need to kind of pick it up a little bit.
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So yeah, I could totally see it being a thing.
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I wish it was a thing, but all I have is a brake pedal.
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That s actually a good, uh, that s a good, um, driving instructor reacts to the onion article take.
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Like that s a good, cause it seems like just a joke at the first, but you re right.
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Actually as a second gas pedal would be good because sometimes it is, it s dangerous to go slow.
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Or like, you know, sometimes we got on the interstate too.
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It s like, okay.
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we need to be going a little bit more than like 30 here.
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You have to speed them at 75, right?
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Yeah.
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So to give it a little bit more oomph, get things moving along.
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So is anything horribly wrong with your life that you want to talk about before we go?
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Oh, horribly wrong with my, no, I mean, money s tight for sure.
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I mean, being a driving instructor is fun, but it s not incredibly the most high paying job out there.
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So money s tight a little bit, but,
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Not necessarily anything horribly wrong, I don t think.
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You could probably make some extra money selling weed to the kids.
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Um, I probably could.
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There definitely, I ve met some that probably could happen.
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I don t think I could get away with it.
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Yeah, no, I don t think I could get away with it, but definitely, I m sure, again, it s not outside the realm of possibility.
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Do you think one of them would narc on you?
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I don t know how to get away, like in broad daylight, like to pull back up to the driving school and just like, what were you doing out there for like even 10 minutes?
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Oh, no big deal.
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You know, just talking, I guess.
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It wouldn t be too hard to get away with.
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I don t know if I have the, I don t know.
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I feel like I m not too good at doing shit like that.
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What s your name again?
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Ian.
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Ian, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
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Um, drive safer, buddy.
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It s dangerous.
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But no, thanks for taking my call, man.
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Appreciate the podcast.
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Of course.
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Take care and good luck.
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Peace.
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Have a good night.
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I need a I need a gecko instructor who has his own hang up the phone button just in case if things get a little too crazy.
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You know, Ian seems like a cool guy, I bet.
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I hope he finds a better way to make money than selling weed to teenagers.
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Although, I mean, when I was a teenager, the other teenagers that were selling teenage me weed, they made a lot of money.
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They made more money than I think a lot of people make as adults.
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So, you know, I guess it is a viable career option.
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Hello?
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Hello there, what s up?
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What s your name?
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Um, my name s Amber.
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I m a little nervous.
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Amber, how can I... What s up, man?
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What do you want to talk about today on the Gecko Show?
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Um... Well, I recently lost my virginity, and it was like... It kind of sucked.
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Interesting.
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For like, both of us, but... I mean, I don t know.
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How old are you?
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24 24 and so you just where is this was just like a Was just like a waiting for marriage thing.
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Was it a you know, the timing never happened thing.
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SPEAKER_00
What?
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You know, what was the deal?
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Yeah, it was like it was a waiting for marriage thing And Are you are you religious?
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Yeah, we both are
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and you said it sucked so I guess I mean I guess of course it s gonna yeah I mean it s definitely gonna suck I guess well no I m not gonna say it s definitely gonna suck because I guess you have the pro of the fact that the person you re doing it with is somebody who you ve you know
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made this, you know, big commitment to, and so there s some, like, comfort in that, but, um, you know, they also probably don t know how to eat pussy very well, because they ve never done it before.
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So it s a trade-off.
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It s a trade-off.
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Um, well, tell me, why did it, why did it suck?
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And I mean, it hurts.
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Like, it s, it s like, it s uncomfortable.
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Like, I ve never,
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I don t know, had something like that big down there.
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It s hard to relax too.
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I don t know, you re stressed out.
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Did it live up to your expectations at all?
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I think kind of, yeah.
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I wasn t really expecting it to be good, just because it was our first time and
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I mean, he doesn t know what the fuck we re doing, you know?
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So I wasn t like really, I wasn t really disappointed.
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Like, I think it was still like a good time.
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It was like a good experience that we both had.
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And it s just something that we ll keep working on together.
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And I look forward to that, you know?
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That s very nice.
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How was it for him?
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Was he stoked?
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Yeah, I mean, we were both stoked.
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We re both like really nervous though, like we both kind of struggled.
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So I mean, we re kind of on like the same boat, you know?
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How long have you guys been dating for?
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Um, two or three years now.
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I think two years.
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And what was it about him that made you want him to be the the first and only person to ever touch touch a penis of?
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Um, he s just so sweet and caring and he s someone that I can be vulnerable around, you know?
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Like, I don t need to feel uncomfortable around him, like, I don t know, I just feel really comfortable being vulnerable around him.
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He s so patient and so kind and he loves me so much and I love him a lot too.
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And he just gets me, like, we re both just, I don t know, we just fit each other well, you know?
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You know what I mean?
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Like, you just get along with someone really well.
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That s nice.
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That s nice.
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You know, I guess I ve never been a big, uh, like religious person.
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And I think, well, anytime I talk to somebody who s religious or like, uh, you know, like what you just said there, there does seem to be this, um,
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Lowering of anxiety there s something what s the app for lowering of anxiety if I can there does seem to be this this calmness to I m gonna follow these rules and When I get lost in life, I have these rules that I can go back to You know what?
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I mean?
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Like that sounds like it gives you less You know being on hinge or whatever No, I like completely feel that like I wasn t really I
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religious until like I don t know like two or three or no like four years ago and like I was kind of feral like I don t know it was it was kind of hard like living through life thinking like there s no purpose like we re all gonna die like I don t you know what I mean like I can just do whatever I want whatever makes me feel good in the moment and I just kind of I don t know like I would get like drunk every weekend and
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It sucked.
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I thought I was happy.
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It just wasn t for me, not saying that.
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If you enjoy those things, there s nothing wrong with it.
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But for me, I don t know.
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I just felt really lonely and all that.
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And what was your come-to-Jesus moment?
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What was it that transitioned you from being, quote, feral into being a woman of God?
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Um, I honestly met like a really, really nice group of people that, um, I don t know, they were just so welcoming and loving.
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And I felt like I could be like honest with these new friends and I, I didn t feel judged.
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Like, I just felt like, like they just listened to me and, um, you know, and they like in the, the nice thing was too, is like, I wasn t like pressured at all.
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Like it was just kind of.
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I made these friends that happened to be really religious and they were just so kind and loving and I was like, oh my gosh, how are you like that?
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I hate everyone.
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You know what I mean?
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And was it an easy transition to start believing from nothing?
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Because it sounds like you weren t, were you particularly religious growing up?
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I mean, my family was, but it wasn t like, it kind of felt like there was a lot of rules, but like there wasn t any reason for them.
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Like, it just kind of felt like you need to behave or you re going to hell.
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So that obviously like very much turned me away.
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It was just kind of like, well, like, what the fuck?
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Like, you know what I mean?
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Like, so it got, that kind of gave me like a bad taste in my mouth.
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And I was just like,
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This sucks.
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So I kind of like, I did grow up in like a pretty religious household, but, and it turned me away.
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And then, you know, I met those people and I was like, oh wait, you guys are like actually nice and like not crazy.
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That s interesting.
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Cause a lot of the times people, they grow up in a religious household and then they meet a group of other young people, their age.
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And they re like, how are you guys staying so cool?
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And most of the time they re like, well, we do whippets every moment of every day that you happen to meet.
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People who are like no we like Jesus and so that s good.
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Is it Jesus or is it?
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Are you Buddhist?
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What s up?
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Does Buddha make people wait to have sex?
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What are you?
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Christian Do what you ever do whippets No, I never have the most I ve ever done is like weed and that s not even that intense I
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And I had, like, a really bad experience with it, like, a couple months ago, so I m like, I don t even touch it anymore.
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A couple months ago.
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Wait, so when did you start... When was it like, okay, I m not, uh... Is God against weed?
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Can you smoke weed as a Christian?
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Um, I mean, I think you can enjoy things, like, within reason.
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Like, I feel like, you know, like, you can enjoy alcohol to, like, um, you know, not to, like,
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like so much that you re getting like drunk every night.
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Like I think you can really get joy, enjoy those things.
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And I would like to say the same thing for weed.
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I don t really see a big difference between the two, you know, as long as you know, sorry, go ahead.
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No, no, I m awkward as fuck.
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Go ahead.
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No, me too.
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I m like so scared right now.
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Um,
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I mean, I don t know.
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I feel like as long as you re like not doing those things to like the point that it s like ruining your life, you know, but I guess, you know, everyone s different and have different tolerances.
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So it s obviously not the same for everyone, you know, how d you meet your husband?
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We met at a bonfire.
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That s cool.
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What was the first thing you said to him?
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Yeah.
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I don t even remember.
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He was honestly like such a dork.
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It was kind of cringy.
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I don t remember, I just know.
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Was this like a Christian bonfire?
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Like a Christian meetup group or something?
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Yeah, it was like a Christian community on our campus.
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That s cool.
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I m Jewish and we don t have, the last time we had a big bonfire was actually when we killed Jesus.
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So we gotta do another one.
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We re due for another bonfire.
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I don t think there was a fire when we killed Jesus.
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There might have been.
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I assume there was a fire.
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When I imagined the scene in my head, there was a fire.
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But anyway, that s cool, man.
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And sorry, are you guys gonna have a kid?
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Um, maybe someday.
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I don t want it right now though.
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Um, well, Amber, uh, is there any, I guess, I don t know if I have any more questions for you.
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Where is the guy?
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Where is he at?
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Um, he s like, he s not home right now.
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Does he have a job?
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Yeah.
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What s he do?
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He works like in a manufacturing warehouse.
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What do you do?
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Nothing too crazy.
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I work as a substitute teacher right now.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Do you ever get into fights with kids?
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No, but sometimes it s tempting.
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Well, Amber, I m gonna let you go.
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Thank you for talking to me about stuff.
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Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go or about any of this?
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No, but thanks for calling and thanks for listening to me.
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I hope you all have a good day and enjoy your life.
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You too, Amber, and sorry again about killing Jesus.
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It s okay.
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I forgive you.
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Hell yeah.
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We got it.
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We did it.
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We got the forgiveness.
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All right.
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Take care, Amber.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Have a good day.
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It s funny in, actually it s kind of like this I guess in Christian camps, but like in Jewish, like when I was growing up, I, okay, I think from what I understand is when you grow up like super Christian, they teach you about like abstinence and stay, you know, wait until marriage and all that stuff.
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And from my experience in Judaism, it s really been the opposite.
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They really do the opposite.
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What they do is they have this, there s this thing called BBYO.
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It s like the B nai B rith.
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youth organization or some shit like that and Jewish people do the opposite where they re like you guys should start having sex right now so we can make more Jewish people they basically take all the Jewish I think I ve talked about this on this fucking podcast before but like they basically just take all the Jewish kids
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and put them on a dance floor, and so they all start grinding on each other.
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And that s kind of what the messaging is.
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It s like, don t wait, just have sex right now.
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Have a baby right now that puts you into wedlock so that you can make more Jewish people.
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That s how I understand it, I think.
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I don t know.
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I m not qualified to literally talk about anything.
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Therapy Cat goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.
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Therapy Cat goes to his right, he s teaching you how to live your life, but he s not really an expert.