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 Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health and wellness podcast in the world, thanks to each and every one of you.
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Today, what you're going to hear is a conversation between me and power couple, Dr. Daniel Amen and Tana.
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Dr. Amen, the director of Amen Clinics, has worked in the world of psychiatry for 40 years.
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His wife, Tana Amen, is a world-renowned wellness expert and New York Times bestselling author of The Omni Diet.
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 Today we have a conversation about the internal and external conditions that contribute to mental health.
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As we all are confronted with internal and external stresses, this conversation with Dr. Aman and Tana will give you another perspective on how to approach the healing process.
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 Dr. Eamon, Tana and I had this conversation over Instagram Live a few weeks back during my Mental Health Day series.
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And I'm really excited to share this conversation with you today on On Purpose.
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 Hey, how's it going?
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Hi, Jay.
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Hi, Jay.
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I'm so happy to see you both.
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Thank you so much for tuning in.
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How are you?
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Oh, thanks for having us.
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 We are awesome and happy to hang out with you.
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Yeah, I love having you here.
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And I'm so glad that my audience is going to get to tap into both of your geniuses and your mind today and all your great insight and advice.
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So this is day three of our online mental health festival.
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And I want to hear from both of you about your incredible insights.
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And I want to start with you.
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 Dr. Raymond, based on something we talked about in my podcast, and I remember you redefining our challenge as not being mental health, but brain health.
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And when you shared this with me, this was truly unique, something I'd never heard before.
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And I'd love for you to share that with everyone who's listening and watching today.
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 Well, thank you so much.
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I have a new book, The End of Mental Illness, where I argue, you know, I've been a psychiatrist almost 40 years, and I've always hated the term mental illness because it shames people.
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When you call someone mental, that's not a good thing.
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 It's stigmatizing and then about 30 years ago I started looking at the brain and I realized most psychiatric problems are not mental health issues at all, rather they are brain health
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 issues.
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And this one idea just changes everything.
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Get your brain right and your mind will follow.
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And very few psychiatrists, psychologists ever talk about brain health.
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You need to eat right.
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You need to exercise.
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You need to take your supplements.
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Because if the hardware of your soul, your brain,
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 is not right.
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It won't run the software program.
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 That's incredible.
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Truly, every time I hear you say that, I'm like, oh, gosh, I need to start focusing on my brain more.
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So it's a great reminder for all of us.
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And I would encourage everyone to go and get a copy of The End of Mental Illness to get that beginning journey of where to start and any of Dr. Amon's work.
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But, Tana, you obviously have just recently or about to release this incredible book called The Relentless Courage of a Scared Child.
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And I haven't had an opportunity to sit with the book yet.
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And I'm excited.
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I know we're going to
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 figure out how to get you on the podcast and have a conversation in deeper.
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I'd love to do that.
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But tell me about this.
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I love the title and I love the cover.
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I have it here and every time I look at the cover, it's captivating.
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It's captivating because it kind of just brings me into that feeling of being a scared child.
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And I think all of us are carrying around a scared child inside of us.
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So tell me what that title means to you and how that connects with mental health.
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 So I grew up in a very chaotic environment, as did so many of us.
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Very chaotic, lots of trauma, lots of addiction, lots of mental illness, or what we call mental challenges.
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And as a result, out of my own survival, I learned to build walls, isolate, pull away from people, disconnect.
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And if you don't want to
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 reconnect with people and you don't want to have or if you want to stay disconnected here's just a little tip that's why I don't marry a psychiatrist who wants to fix everybody.
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 So Daniel's always nudged me to reconnect and be curious instead of furious.
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It's like, why did they behave that way?
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Maybe it's not all just about willpower.
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Did they have a head injury?
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We look at mental health through four circles.
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Biological, you know, how is your body functioning?
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Psychological, your mind.
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Spiritual, what is your meaning and purpose?
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And social, who are you connected to?
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Because people are contagious.
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And when I started thinking about my family through that lens, it was uncomfortable.
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 because because I really wanted to stay disconnected and distant from all that chaos.
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But then all of a sudden, I felt this this level of responsibility.
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And I love the word responsibility because it means the ability to respond doesn't mean taking blame.
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It means the ability to respond.
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Wow.
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Writing my story was one of the most powerful things I could do.
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It really was uncomfortable, but gave me the opportunity to see some of the chaos and some of the trauma through an adult lens.
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 and just heal and see that many of these people were doing the best they could with what they had because it was pretty crazy.
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It's not only beautifully written, it's fun, it's funny, it's disturbing.
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 You know, to just talk about one of my favorite stories in the book is how she disconnected from her dad, who was a pastor who embezzled from the church and cheated on.
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I mean, it was just not good.
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And she had pushed him away.
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But when we first dated, he had just been diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease.
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And I'm like, well, I have to see him.
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And I'm like, no, this is like Jerry Springer material.
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We're not bringing him into my life.
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 And I found through imaging that he didn't have Alzheimer's disease.
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He had something called pseudodementia, which is severe depression that masquerades as Alzheimer's disease.
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And over the next six months, he went from being a recluse to someone who was giving all day seminars at the church.
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And even though he died five years later, it had nothing to do with his mind.
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He died with a very clear mind in Tana's arms.
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 with me praying for him.
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And I realized in that moment, one of the big lessons in my book, one of the big overarching themes is sometimes you're called to do something that you don't want to do.
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And you don't realize that the help might be for someone else, but the healing is for you.
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So don't rob yourself of those opportunities to heal by helping someone else, even when it's uncomfortable.
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 That's a really interesting perspective.
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And I love that redefinition of the word responsibility.
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I've never, ever heard that, never thought of it like that.
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 the ability to respond, not taking blame, not feeling guilty, not saying, now I have to sort this out, but just actually saying, well, let me find the ability to respond.
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I think that's incredible.
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Now, Dr. Raymond, I know I was speaking to your team and they shared these incredible statistics with me from your work.
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This is what they shared.
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Every 14 minutes, someone commits suicide in the United States.
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 Every eight minutes, someone dies of a drug overdose.
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And according to a large epidemiological study, 51% of the US population will struggle with a mental health issue at some point in their lives.
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Where do we start?
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Because I think looking at those stats, we all know someone or know of someone who's going through this right now, even if it's not ourselves.
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 Where do we start?
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What's step one?
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And I'd love to hear from both of you and both of your unique approaches as to how you think people need to start.
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Well, those statistics are actually from before the pandemic.
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So before March, 8% of the population struggled with significant depression, which has been creeping up over the last decades.
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 in September it was 27% just with depression.
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So the mental health challenges have skyrocketed.
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I have never seen suicide at this level, the level of hopelessness.
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And when the pandemic started for me, it was actually March 10th, the end of mental illness had just come out.
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I had a trip, I was gonna be in a special show in New York and that got canceled.
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And that night,
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 I wrote down mental hygiene is just as important as washing your hands.
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So where we all start, the end of mental illness will begin with a revolution in brain health.
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That we see this organ, I'm in a new docu-series with Justin Bieber called Seasons and he came out, I've been his doctor for a long time.
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 And I love Justin, but like many celebrities, sometimes he'd do what I'd say and often he wouldn't.
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But he came into my office and he said, my brain is an organ just like my heart is an organ.
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If you told me I had heart problems, I'd do everything you said.
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 And that's how we need to start the revolution is love, honor, take care of the brain.
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And it's super simple.
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It's three strategies.
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Brain, envy, you gotta care about it.
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Avoid things that hurt your brain, know the list, and do things that help.
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And the little tiny habit, I talk about many tiny habits in the end of mental illness, but the one that's the most important as you go through your day,
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 Just ask yourself, whatever you're doing, is this decision good for my brain or bad for it?
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And if you can start answering that with information and love, love of yourself, love of your family, love of your mission, you're going to start feeling better from a mental health perspective because ultimately your brain creates your mental health.
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That's where The Bright Side comes in.
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A new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that's bringing you a daily dose of joy.
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Listen, both Danielle and I are reporters.
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We've covered the news and we know the world can feel heavy, but The Bright Side podcast is a space to have a little fun, to learn something new and get into some friendly debates.
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What's that, Will?
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So iHeart is giving us a whole minute to promote our podcast, Part-Time Genius.
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I know, that's why I spent my whole week composing a haiku for the occasion.
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Why don't we just tell people about our show instead?
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Yeah, that's a better idea.
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And this season, we are bringing fans even deeper into the ton.
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Colin Bridgerton has returned from his travels abroad.
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 Kenna, I'd love to hear your perspective.
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Where do people start when you hear those statistics?
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I saw your reaction on your face immediately.
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And now that we know that those stats were from before the pandemic and Dr. Ravens just told us that it's actually 27%.
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I mean, where do people start?
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So, I mean, I agree with my husband 100%, but for me, it's more personal.
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It's one of the things I write about in my book.
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It's, my heart goes out to people who are struggling with this right now because there was a point in my life where I wanted to be dead.
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 I fortunately didn't have it within me to take my own life, but I kept praying that a truck would hit me or something would happen so it wasn't my fault because I was wasting oxygen on the planet.
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When I met my husband and I started learning about our work and looking at mental health through that lens of the four circles,
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 because I had cancer, I had all these things that happened in my life, besides the trauma growing up, that just devastated me, and it all crashed in at one time.
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When I really understood those four circles, the biology, the psychology, the social circle, the spiritual circle, and I realized how bankrupt I had become in all of them, right?
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It's like four tires on a car.
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If one goes flat, the car will drive for a while.
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Not well, but it'll drive.
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If two go flat, you're probably going to crash.
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And I had crashed.
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I had four tires that went flat.
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 So the car kind of flipped.
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And so when I look at it through those circles, when I met my husband, I started to really look at it.
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I'm a neurosurgical ICU nurse.
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So for me, it was all biology.
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It was just like, get this person, stop the bleeding.
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But when I really started to understand this, it was so freeing for me.
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 It released the shame.
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And if I could tell people watching one thing, if you're struggling with this right now, I wanted to be dead, and I'm not.
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It's the worst time in my life.
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It was a pain like nothing I've ever experienced.
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I wanted to rip my skin off, only I couldn't.
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Couldn't get away from the pain.
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It's not like a toothache where you can take a pill.
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It's something you can't escape.
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But what I couldn't know then that I know now
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 is that that pain, all of that pain, all of that shame, all of everything I felt back then, there's no way I could know that that would be the thing going forward that would become my purpose in life.
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So please just hang on, get help, reach out.
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 And one of the things you talk about in the book is about paying into purpose, which is just so important.
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And another thing I think that was really critical is learning how to not believe every stupid thing.
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Discipline.
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You're a monk, you know this.
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 Discipline.
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Disciplining your mind is so important.
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So whenever you're sad or whenever you're mad or whenever you're nervous or out of control, write down what you're thinking and then just ask yourself, is it true?
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You don't have to believe every stupid thing you think.
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How many of your listeners were good at talking back to their parents when they were teenagers?
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 I was excellent, and my mom will totally verify that I was a pain when I was a teenager.
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But no one ever taught me to talk back to myself, that thoughts are not real.
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 Right?
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It's sort of like the weather.
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It comes, it goes.
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It's not the thoughts you have that cause suffering.
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It's the thoughts you attach to.
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It's the ones you let stick around.
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And so, yes, get your brain right, but then you have to program.
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 properly and where you bring your attention always determines how you feel.
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And so learning how to focus your mind on what's helpful rather than what's hurtful.
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And during the pandemic, Tan actually did really well.
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I mean, she's an ICU nurse, but when the societal disruption came, she sort of lost her mind a little bit.
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 Because it was like my childhood.
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It was uncertain.
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The most important thing she did was turn off the news because when she watched the news, she'd start screaming at the TV and it wasn't helpful for her.
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And you know, Jay, the news is actually not the news anymore.
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The news is about driving clicks.
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And what does the brain pay attention to first?
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Negativity.
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Negativity.
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And that's what they're doing.
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They're driving that, which is increasing the incidence of mental illness.
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And in the end of mental illness, I have a writing device where I just imagined if I was an evil ruler and I wanted to create mental illness around the world, what would I do?
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I'd create our news system.
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I'd create our food system.
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I want to hear from you.
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 how you have the courage to, you know, you just shared earlier, you know, like the tip of the iceberg of some of the trauma and the challenges that you've been through in life.
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And I look forward to really going deep with you, but how did you have the courage to face that scared child or to reconnect with that scared child?
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Because I feel like for so many people,
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 it's so much easier to try and forget or push it away and it's so much easier to try and hope that no one ever knows it happened and we kind of ignore it or suppress it.
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How do you, how do you really confront that?
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 It was actually an epiphany.
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It wasn't necessarily my choice, I suppose you would say.
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Again, I'm nudged to do a lot of things by my partner sitting next to me.
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But I was the queen of building the facade, the wall, making people think I had it all together.
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And inside, I wasn't.
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I was feeling pretty broken.
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 But I finally started the journey of healing, but I didn't realize how judgmental I was.
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I didn't realize how much I still was disconnected from my past, even though I felt like I was personally starting to heal some of the brokenness.
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That was still a big issue.
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I was disconnected, didn't want to get involved with people from my past, and I was very judgmental and didn't even realize it.
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And I started to do a program at the Salvation Army with some people with addiction, one of the largest inpatient
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 addiction treatment centers that they have.
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It was 186 beds.
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I was asked to help transform their food.
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And so I thought, yeah, I can deal with the menu.
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And then she said, no, I want you to work with the people.
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And I'm like, no, I can't work with the people.
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And I started wrestling with this.
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And Daniel's like, why can't you do this, honey?
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And I'm like, God just called the wrong person this time.
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I'm sorry, I can't do this.
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And he looked at me and he said, God called the perfect person.
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 And I was stunned, and I started to cry.
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One less little girl that felt like an afterthought.
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One less little boy that felt like he had to hide because it felt safer.
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That's above my pay grade.
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 And the stories of transformation were spectacular of the people that she helped.
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It was the most powerful work I ever did.
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I mean, people are using social media in a positive way.
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I mean, we all know it's got negative effects, but it can be used as this tool because pain shared is pain divided.
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And, you know, building that wall, keeping that facade up, that's
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And I hate, I'm a nurse, unfortunately, I use these gross, you know, examples, but it's like this boil building up pressure.
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And once you lance it and let all that ugliness out, it has the opportunity to heal.
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 When the Taliban banned music in Afghanistan, millions were plunged into silence.
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Radios were smashed.
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Cassettes burned.
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You could be beaten or jailed or killed for breaking the rules.
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This is the story of how a group of people brought music back to Afghanistan by creating their own version of American Idol.
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 The danger they endured.
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They said my head should be cut off.
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The joy they brought to the nation.
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You're free completely.
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No one is there to destroy you.
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I'm John Legend.
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 What is the one thing from both of you, this is our last question, what is the one thing that you think people need to do today in 2020?
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Because the level, like you said, Dr. Raymond, we went from 8% to 27% feeling depression.
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We were all thrown this curveball.
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It was completely unpredictable.
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It was completely
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 you know, unexplainable, like no one saw this coming.
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Do we have the ability to evolve fast enough to deal with the stress and pressure that's coming our way?
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And what's the one thing that we can do to be ready and prepared for that?
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And I'd love to hear an answer from both of you and wherever you'd like to go with that.
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Well, it's why we survived as a species, because we can pivot.
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And those people that will thrive during this time will not wish for the good old days.
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 What they'll do is they'll see what are the opportunities going forward.
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And during this time, they will love and take care of their brains because that's what's going to get you to not only survive, but thrive.
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So it's back to that one question.
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What I'm going to do today, is it good for my brain or bad for it?
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 So, doing things that help you feel better fast, like alcohol, marijuana, bad food, being sedentary, being addicted to the news, all of those things are going to hurt your brain.
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But, taking...
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 a multiple vitamin, omega-3 fatty acids, optimizing your vitamin D level, getting out in the sun if you can, exercising, learning how to not believe every stupid thing you think, those things are great for your brain.
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So back to, is this good for my brain or bad for it, will help you not only survive, but it will help you thrive doing this historic time.
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 Mm hmm.
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I like that.
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So one thing that really because this this has been a stressful time.
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We've got teenagers in the house like everybody else.
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It's just it's stressful.
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So what helps me is looking at things from a 30,000 foot perspective.
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So if I step back, I step out of the picture, take myself out of it and look at it from a distance or like you're watching a movie.
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And then for me, it's like, what part of this is important?
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What part of it is not?
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Who has our best interest?
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Who does not?
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And then I ask myself what
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 can I control?
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Focus on the things I can control, not the things I can't, because so much of it we can't.
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We can't control what people are saying on the news and the negativity.
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We just can't control that.
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But we can control our thinking.
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And I noticed that when I go in the backyard in the morning, walk through my grass with bare feet and watch the hummingbirds with green tea in my hand, nothing is wrong in the world.
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It's not until I come back in the house and start watching the news and listening to what's happening in the world that it all sounds like doom and gloom.
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 So I focus on what I can control.
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And I always go back to those four circles and I really practice it.
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Nutrition, diet, meditation, prayer, you know, all for me, I have to do all connection.
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I have to do all of it.
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I'm not a person who can do one thing.
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 It's amazing.
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Thank you so much, both of you, for doing this.
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If you want more information, please, please, please go and grab the books, End of Mental Illness.
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You can see one of the other books.
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Dr. Daniel Amen's written, like, I think, what?
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Are you on your 12th book now?
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Oh, dear Lord, no.
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Like, 42nd.
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42nd?
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You have a ways to catch up, but I'm also much older than you.
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 Have a catch up, but change your brain, change your life.
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The End of Mental Illness was the last interview that we did on my podcast.
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And Tana's new book is available for pre-order.
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It's not out yet.
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It's The Relentless Courage of a Scared Child.
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So those are the names of the two books.
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I highly recommend them.
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Please, please, please go and pre-order Tana's book and you can go and buy Dr. A. She has an event coming up on December 12th, free.
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 So people can sign up for it at RelentlessCourage.com.
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Tell me the website.
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Say that again.
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RelentlessCourage.com.
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Amazing.
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I'm just putting that in the Relentless Courage.
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I'm putting in the comments.
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Oh, thank you so much.
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RelentlessCourage.com.
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OK, everyone, I'm just going to pin this to the top of the comments.
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Sorry, it's the bottom of the comments.
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You can see it right.
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Oh, I can't put my hand down.
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Tana can put her hands down.
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 RelentlessCourage.com, it's right there.
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So go and click on that and sign up.
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What date was that again, Dr. Raymond?
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Can you remind us?
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December 12th.
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Great, December 12th, RelentlessCourage.com, so you can go and sign up for a free event, which is dedicated to the book.
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So please, please, please, everyone who's watching this, whether you're watching it live with us right now or whether you're going to watch the replay, check out RelentlessCourage.com.
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But thank you to both of you for doing this and joining our Mental Health Festival.
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 I can't wait to see you all after this, get my brain scanned finally.
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I know we've been talking about it.
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It's life changing.
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It really is.
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And you will fall in love with your brain more than ever before.
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And then you will treat it like it's your best friend, because it is.
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Your best friend or your worst enemy, depending on how it works.
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So we love you.
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We're grateful.
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So grateful.
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 be part of your community.
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Thank you so much, both of you.
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Please go and follow both our incredible guests today, everyone.
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Grab a copy of this book and make sure you go to RelentlessCourage.com to not miss out on that event.
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Thank you for joining.
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Thank you so much, Dr. Raymond.
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Thanks, Jay.
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I'll see you soon.
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And thank you for coming back at home.
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Thank you so much.
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 Hey everyone, thank you so much for listening to this conversation with Dr. Daniel Amen, Tana Amen today.
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I really hope it gave you some ideas of how to view mental health from a physiological perspective and how one can employ strategies to heal from past traumas.
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 Make sure you tag me, Dr. Amen, and Tana on Instagram with your thoughts on their approach to healing.
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I thank you so much for being a part of the On Purpose community.
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Thank you for listening.
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Have a wonderful weekend, stay safe, and don't forget to look out for episodes next Monday and Friday.
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 This podcast was produced by Dust Light Productions.
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Our executive producer from Dust Light is Misha Yusuf.
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Our senior producer is Juliana Bradley.
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Our associate producer is Jacqueline Castillo.
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Valentino Rivera is our engineer.
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Our music is from Blue Dot Sessions.
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 Guess what, Will?
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What's up, Mango?
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I've been trying to write a promo for our podcast, Part-Time Genius, but even though we've done over 250 episodes, we don't really talk about murders or cults.
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I mean, we did just cover the Illuminati of cheese, so I feel like that makes us pretty edgy.
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 So what you're saying is everyone should be listening.
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This is the story of how a group of people brought music back to Afghanistan by creating their own version of American Idol.
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The joy they brought to the nation.
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You are free completely.
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No one is there to destroy you.
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The danger they endured.
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They said my head should be cut off.
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 I'm John Legend.
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Listen to Afghan Star on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.