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Okay, Vanessa Bayer is today.
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Vanessa Bayer.
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What a lovely girl.
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We had a great time with her.
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She s an SNL vet from not very long ago.
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She just- No.
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She had a great run.
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She just took off.
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Like a lot of people, started as a feature, moved up to the main cast and just created a lot of indelible, wonderful characters.
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Laura Parsons, who acts out like adult movies.
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She does a lot of childlike things in such a funny way.
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Her Miley Cyrus is hysterical.
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And she s just really, really sweet.
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And she talks a bit, in her new show, she talks about surviving childhood leukemia.
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So there s a seriousness to it and how it affected the rest of her life.
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And so in this new show, I Love That For You, it s about that.
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Oh yeah, I thought it was I Love You For That, but it s I Love That For You.
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I love that for you.
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I wrote it down because it is one of those on Showtime.
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So she s adorable and talented, and this was a really, really fun podcast.
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Yeah, I saw that.
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And then she comes in, and Molly Shannon, the great Molly Shannon.
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And Molly and Shannon are her together.
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Yeah, so that s a score.
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I have to tell you, off the record, Dana, I cram these things in.
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This is just a quick story.
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I told Dana the other day that I auditioned for the Monkees.
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He wanted to find out what happened.
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So the Monkees is a band.
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I was in that era.
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I m a believer, I couldn t leave.
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I mean, I knew they weren t the Beatles, but I was watching that show every night.
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Dana, I just got the numbers and our crowd is four to seven year olds.
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That s our big demo that listens to this podcast.
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So it went from two to five to four to seven.
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Yeah, we re going up.
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We re getting more mature.
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So they reboot it.
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They reboot the monkeys.
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And they want you maybe to play.
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Right when I move out here, I m just starting standup.
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I m staying with Kevin.
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I m staying with you maybe at that point.
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or the funny boys, Jim and Jonathan, on their couch.
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So I m barely here.
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I m back and forth to Phoenix.
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Oh, you just arrived.
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Scottsdale, yeah.
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So Bud Friedman, the legendary owner of The Improv, sees me do a few spots, lets me stand.
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I m probably 20.
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He goes, David.
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They re doing a Monkees reboot or something.
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They never call it a reboot.
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They re going to do the Monkees again.
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It s called the New Monkees.
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I go, oh yeah?
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And he goes, you should get, I could try to get you an audition for that.
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He goes, you look young.
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You look like you re 15.
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I go, oh yeah?
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I go, but the only thing is I skateboard, but I don t play.
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I don t really sing or do band.
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He goes, it doesn t matter.
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These shows are like all fake.
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You just go in there and they have someone do it for you and it s all lip sync.
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I go, oh, okay.
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He s just such a nice man, bud.
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He goes, I ll get you in.
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I go, all right.
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I have to drive back to LA and I have to fly back on Southwest to do it.
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And I go to Warner Brothers and I go to some trailer.
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It s not quite as glam as you see in the movies.
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So this dusty trail looks like a school trailer and they re like, next.
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So.
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All these kids are there and they have all- And cattle call.
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Yeah, cattle call.
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Cattle call.
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That s what they call it.
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Textbook cattle call.
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Yeah.
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I go in, they all look like me and they re all little squirts, they re all fucking.
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Oh, I love it.
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Don t you love it when you go to, I see all guys with weak chins.
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I m like, everyone in here has a weak chin, why am I in here?
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Yeah.
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And they re all like, but some cool like band looking dudes, you know?
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So I walk in, I literally sit down and he goes, so, looking at your comedian?
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I go, yeah, yeah, pretty fucking funny if you go by the world.
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And he goes, so what instrument you play?
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And I go, tambourine.
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I don t play an instrument.
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He goes, you sing?
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And I go, no.
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And he goes, what are you doing here?
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And I go, well, and he goes, do you know what this is?
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I go, it s the monkeys, it s all pretend.
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And he goes, well, you sing and play good.
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Well, they learned, the real monkeys learned to play their instruments later.
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They had such a chip on their shoulder.
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They learned it and went out and toured and played all the instruments.
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But the initial, they didn t.
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Yeah, but of course, I look like the biggest asshole in the world.
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And he goes, so why would you come in?
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And I go, I skateboard.
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And he goes, well, this isn t the X Games.
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Who gives a fuck?
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Who is your agent at this point?
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I know, it was Bud Freeman.
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He just told me to go in.
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I didn t have an agent.
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Take it outside.
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So then I fucking,
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Cab, back to the airport, back to Southwest, gone.
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I feel like I nailed it.
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You were the surfer, skateboard, teen idol look back then.
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Got me nothing.
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Yeah.
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Hey, so here we go.
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Here s Vanessa Bayer.
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Where?
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Is that her?
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That s her, yeah.
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I shut up a minute late like a little princess.
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Jeez, Meg Markle s finally here.
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Jeez, good lord.
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Where s Chuck?
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Where s the bigger guy?
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Oh, here s my microphone.
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Sorry, Vanessa, I m new.
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Do I need a microphone?
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So this is David s first first podcast.
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Vanessa is first time hosting a podcast right now.
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And you are you have a Broadway video sweatshirt.
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I have this on today and I thought I ll keep it on.
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Yeah.
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Those of you at home.
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Go team.
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Dana, what s Broadway Video?
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For those of you at home who don t know, Broadway Video is sort of a production company started by a man, a gentleman by the name of Lorne Michaels, a Canadian gentleman.
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And they sort of do all kinds of activity and television shows.
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That s all I got.
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You know, David, when you get your check for Coneheads, if it says Broadway Video, don t be frightened.
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It s still going to clear.
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David Dana, if you re going to interview Vanessa, remember to be very clear, be very, very brief and be on point.
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Thanks, Lauren.
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Call you soon.
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I like really love you.
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Talk to you later, Lauren.
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I don t even know what I m doing.
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That s all I got.
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Mic drop.
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Let s get some house.
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Let s get housekeeping.
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Do you want me to record on QuickTime?
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Greg?
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I haven t heard about QuickTime since I watched little porn clips when I was like 22.
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I had quick chips.
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Remember quick chips from 1962?
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You youngins don t remember.
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In my day, we had quick chips.
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Vanessa, we re gonna let you talk in about a half hour.
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Just hang tight.
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Oh, I get it.
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Whenever.
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We re really self-involved.
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We re horrible hosts.
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I want to tell you guys, I, well, I, I have to, I was just on a plane.
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I m in New York now.
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I was just on a red eye.
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That s not what I had to tell you.
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I love, I love plane stories.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, I slept a little, whatever.
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But I was thinking about just now I was like getting ready for this.
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And I didn t need to tell you at all that I was just on a red eye.
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That s not part of the story, actually.
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But I was thinking about how excited I was to do this because I really
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I love both of you so much and I just want to say like I truly like you re two of my favorite like comedians and actors and I just like just thinking about getting to do this with you and how influential both of you were like I just am so happy to be doing this.
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Let s end it there.
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Yeah, I think this is great.
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Thank you for having me.
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We re going to take a quick break now with our sponsor.
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That s been Vanessa.
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She got the cue card.
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We sent her.
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That s so nice.
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Right back at you.
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You know what I thought about you, because it s OK to be nice and sincere in 2022, I think, because when I thought about you and I host the
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show I thought damn she s like an incredibly nice person like literally that s kind of was I mistaken?
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That s the question.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, I really like the whole cast, too.
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But no, but I remember you, Fred, are there all that cast was great.
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But anyway, love.
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Yeah.
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But no, I I hope that I am a nice person.
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But even if I was like a real a real nasty monster, I still meant what I said about you guys.
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That s nice.
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Now Vanessa- We have it recorded and it ll be on a tape loop, so we re gonna work that on Instagram.
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We were wondering just quickly, who is the biggest bitch in the show again?
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I think you were, just quickly.
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Who did you, did you hate someone on 8H?
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You don t have to say the name, but was there someone you go, man, I hate that fucking person.
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Like, I mean, in general.
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No, I m kidding.
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She s like, eight people came to mind.
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She s like, well, let me whittle this down.
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I was going to start going through a list for you.
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No, I wasn t.
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Yeah.
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I think you guys have had a good little squadron there when you were there.
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And I think you came on in 2010.
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Is that right?
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Yes, that s right.
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And you had a pretty long run, it says, and someone asked me at TMZ at the airport the other day, literally, they re like, you know, and he goes, is everyone leaving too quickly?
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I think Pete s been there for eight years and Kate s been there for 10.
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I m like, too quickly?
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I mean, I stayed like six, I think Farley and Santa were five.
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They go, why did people leave?
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I go, because it s a mental and physical beating every day.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I was there for seven and I think Kate and Aidy were there for 10.
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That s a lot.
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Cecily s been there for 10.
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Yes.
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I mean, Kenan s been there.
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He was there before Lorne.
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Keenan predated Lorne.
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He grew up there.
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In 1971 there was a whole different, it was called SNL Nights and I can t remember who the producer was.
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He was actually Rodney Allen Rippey.
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Dick Cavett was the producer of SNL Nights in 71 and Keenan was the number one cast member.
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Oh wow.
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We ll let you talk now.
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If we re talking about Casper, it s kind of interesting because it changed a lot for you.
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I had the same and then I had the bad boys come in, you know, Spade being one of them, Farley Sandler and Rob Schneider.
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So you started as a feature player and you had Zeth and Bobby Moynihan, Andy Samberg, Jason Sudeikis, and then
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Cecily Strong or Cecily?
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Cecily Strong came.
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Cecily.
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Sorry.
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Yeah.
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Cecily, Kate and Aidy came like my third year.
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And I knew Aidy from Chicago.
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Okay.
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And she was a good friend of mine.
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So that was like incredible.
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But all of them were so great.
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And by the way, I have like, if you look it up, it says I have the record for the women who was there the longest because I was there seven seasons, but they were all there.
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The whole time with you and season.
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So it just hasn t been updated.
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Yeah, I read that about you.
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And it said a hundred.
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Not true.
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One hundred and forty nine episodes in seven seasons.
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So that means you had episodes where you went past 20 shows a season.
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Well, yes, exactly.
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It s a technical.
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It was a technicality that I had was the most shows because other women had been there for seven seasons, but their seasons just weren t as long.
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Is that Maya?
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Right.
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I think it s Maya.
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I think it s Maya Rudolph.
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I m going to call you the champion.
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I don t think I d be out of place to call you the champion of Saturday Night Live episode quadrants or whatever.
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Dana, do you know how many shows or years you did or how many shows actually?
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I was just shy of seven years.
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David, thank you for asking.
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We ll be with you in a minute.
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This is not about me.
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No, I was.
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There was a strike, so I only ended up with like 130 episodes, but it was basically seven seasons.
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So I think that s a good run.
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Did anything in specific participate your departure since all your bandmates, a lot of them were staying?
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Yeah, well, a couple of, one, the main thing was seven years was the contract, as you know, right?
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It was probably the con, was it the contract when you were there?
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No, maybe not.
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I think it was five.
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Five.
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Okay.
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It was seven for us.
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And I just couldn t envision an eight.
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Scam.
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You know, our, my second or third year, I think my third season, the pay went up and it was the first time it had gone up since like you guys were there.
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So it was like- Wait, without you asking, it went up?
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It just sort of bumped?
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I think they realized that, meaning the pay for everybody that like set rate that you get, like you get a certain amount your first year, it like stayed the same since like, I think the nineties.
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And then eventually in like 2012, they were like, maybe we should add to this a little because of inflation.
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A few pennies.
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So you had three roommates, you couldn t afford an apartment, so then you got down to two roommates.
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Yeah.
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It was cool.
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We got paid not well.
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Vanessa, just on the side note that we all, you know, I think no one has leverage when they get hired because no one s famous.
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No one has any.
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Right, right, right.
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You just say, I ll sign on the dotted line.
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And then the last year we got all tough and Farley and Adam and I asked for a raise and we said we were not coming back to the show.
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Can you believe how crazy we were?
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And Lorne goes, that s fine.
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And we go, wait, no, we re like not coming back.
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Show will collapse.
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He goes, no, I think it ll stay.
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Have you met Will Ferrell?
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He s always coming in.
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And I was like, I didn t know he was such a home run hitter, but he s also good.
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We didn t, we actually backed ourselves into a corner because we didn t know what to do.
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We were like, wait, are they not going to do anything and we don t go?
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I mean, and then,
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I think he talked to Bernie Brillstein.
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This is how old we are.
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And Bernie met him in the middle.
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A Santa Claus superstar talent manager.
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He just said, give them half of what they want and let s just go.
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That s good.
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It was something.
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And then those guys left, I guess, got fired.
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I didn t know Sandler Farley got fired till a year ago, I think.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Did you know that?
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I kind of heard about it, but I didn t really understand what happened.
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That it could be possible.
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Yes.
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But also, yeah, it was just confusing because it seemed like they were so beloved, but stuff was happening with the network or something.
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I think they wanted to start over, like, let s get new people in.
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I don t know.
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It seems dumb.
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I thought they were both doing so well in movies.
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They just left and it made perfect sense.
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Yeah.
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I don t think anything at SNL, the culture of it would be you re called in and someone tells you, by the way, you can get your things and leave the building.
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It s like a cast member telling you, oh, I think you re fired.
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That s true.
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It s a slow motion thing.
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It s like SNL.
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You never quite know what s going on.
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Maybe it s by design.
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Where s my desk and what am I doing?
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How did you land on that when you first got there?
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That s such a good point because it s like they probably don t even know.
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Like Adam probably doesn t really know exactly because you sort of hear and then it s like through reps and then there s like
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Yeah, you re right, you re right.
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Nobody knows.
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And then he was like, let s have a talk.
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Can you come to my office?
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And you re like, oh, and he s like, you know, it s just not working out.
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It s just with us, it was Marcy Klein or Shoemaker going.
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Right.
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Totally.
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And you d see people running out of Lauren s office in tears.
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I m graphing their script.
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I remember Erin Moroney, this girl that worked for Lauren.
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She used to come down and poke her head in my office and go, Lauren s gonna be mad at you.
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And then she d run off.
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And I d go, he s mad at me?
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But it was so easy to get me going because it made sense.
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It was worse when they said, they said, Lauren really likes you.
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And that was scarier.
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Lauren really likes, he does?
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Aww.
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So Vanessa, I m gonna get into some SNL stuff because Dana s obviously on something.
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I didn t do my research.
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No, I actually... I did a little edible.
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You don t know this, but you starred in 2010.
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Right.
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And I m going to go through a couple things with you.
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Okay, I ll take it.
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Were you, okay, first we re going to go back to when you, it says, because we re going to talk about your show name, and Dana and I argued, it s either called, hang on Dana, I Love You For That or I Love That For You.
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Um, well, I was going to say it s, it s, I love that for you.
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Oh, we both missed it, but it does.
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It makes sense.
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You d be confused because it used to, well, initially it was called big deal.
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And then we changed it to, I, I love this for you.
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And then Showtime did like research.
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Cause they were like, we re not sure that s the phrase.
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And the more common phrase is I love that for you.
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So honestly, I feel like any, any,
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collection of those kinds of words.
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Yes.
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Right.
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Does that sort of sound is it supposed to be condescending when people say, yeah, it s supposed to.
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Well, it s supposed to be like it s a lot of people on like a home shopping network would say that.
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But it s also kind of this phrase that s used a lot, sometimes genuinely, sometimes condescendingly.
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We sort of love like all the kind of takes it could.
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Yeah.
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All the kind of ways you could.
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It is true.
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I bought a house once and my friend had a
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girlfriend that was 20 and I was 35 and it was the first time I m buying a house it was pretty big and she looked at it I was this great she goes I think it s good for you.
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And I go, what does that mean?
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And he told me later, she thought it wasn t big enough for her to live in.
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I go, this is the biggest house I ve ever bought at that point in my life.
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And I was like, dude, I don t know.
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But that s how it is.
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It sounded nice.
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And I walked away feeling crummy.
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And I go, what does that mean?
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Yeah, it s just got a little twist in it.
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Right on the edge of being patronizing.
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Yeah.
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But I love that for you.
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But in the show, because I watched, it s on Showtime and I watched... Showtime and streaming.
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Oh, and streaming?
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And streaming through Showtime.
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Okay.
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Through Showtime.
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Like if you get like Hulu with a Showtime accent bump.
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Yeah.
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It s not Showtime Plus though.
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Is there no Showtime Plus?
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No, there s Paramount Plus.
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There s Paramount Plus.
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I think there is a Showtime app.
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They ll figure it out.
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So yeah, I m sorry to concentrate on that part.
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Well, I wrote a pilot for a show recently called How to Find That Show.
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It s kind of, well, you know, it s an office thing.
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Go back to your show.
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So you, it seems like you re a master of, I don t know the, because I was looking at all your stuff, like of this very fine line of this sort of archetypal character you have that plays the line of sarcasm and sweetness.
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And how would you describe like what you and Molly Shannon are doing on your show as far as the banter and the subterfuge and things mean this and that?
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I mean, obviously, do you want to talk about that a little bit?
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Well, yeah, I mean, I think it s like it s like.
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It s the thing of just trying to be.
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Just just trying to be sweet and stuff, but not fully, but also like trying to keep up and so just talking to sort of like.
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Look, I m doing it now.
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I don t even know, but it s just kind of like trying to.
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Sort of.
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seem like this character is with it and understanding and fits in when really she s just trying to figure things out.
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Yeah, it seemed to me like you have characters, a lot of your characters, you re pulling for immediately.
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You have a very genuine sweetness and authenticity.
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And you re always smiling and you re always upbeat.
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When they re just little things that are doing your hair and you re kind of excited, no one gives a shit, that you have this new job and you re the only one excited at a new job.
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Everyone has been in that position, or a lot of showbiz people have, and everyone s jaded.
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But you don t really know what the sharks are gonna be like when you get to a new position.
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When I got to SNL, I thought they d be like, four, he s a jolly good fellow.
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Every time I go in a room, I go, is this a surprise party for me?
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And they re like, no, no one even knows you re here, and actually they re mad you are.
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So it s different, so you get hired at this home shopping network, but you re like a really good person and very excited about it, and you re going to a place, where I m not giving a lot away, I don t think, but you know, everyone s sort of,
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In the groove, it s kind of like SNL.
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Everyone s doing their thing, and everyone s sort of quietly competitive, and everyone doesn t know if they like the new person.
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They re dealing with you, and then you, I think, have to at some point, as genuine and sweet as you are, you realize, I have to make some moves here to keep up or I m done.
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Yeah, totally.
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And, you know, I created it with other SNL people.
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My co-creator, Jeremy Byler, and I like wrote together SNL.
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Jesse Kleiner, showrunner, worked at SNL.
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So we saw like parallels, like even like the first, I don t know if you guys felt this way, but my first day, I was just like, there were so many famous people.
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And I just was like, now I have to work with these people.
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And I have to just kind of be like, you know, normal with them.
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And that was hard for me.
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And I had to, you know, you have to fake it.
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Well, you walk in and you probably have some SNL people that have been there for a while.
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And even writers are intimidating.
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You hear good big writers are there.
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Yeah, because you just want them to like you.
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Yes.
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It s all you want.
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It s for the writers to like you.
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It s kind of just like Larry David does a version of just awkward, awkward situations that are subtly played.
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You know, it s kind of fun to act like that, right?
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To be that character.
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Yeah, totally.
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And I also think like, um,
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Because like, I think because I smile a lot and I like have this nice demeanor, which I think is, I d like to think is genuine, but I guess, well.
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We ll see if we get a season two.
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You tricked Dana.
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He thinks you re nice.
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You re not even from Canada or Minnesota, right?
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But I m from Cleveland.
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I m from the Midwest.
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That explains it.
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You know, Molly and I are from like the same part of Cleveland.
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We re from like 15 minutes from each other.
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Both the most likable people.
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You re both extremely, extremely likable.
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And I was excited when I saw that you were in a show together.
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So I thought you have a comic sensibility that would match very nicely the way you play.
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It s so fun getting to do it with her.
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It s how I feel about you guys.
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It s like it s just like, oh, my God, this is a dream.
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But thanks.
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So because I because I because of that smiling and like my demeanor, I feel like it s fun because I can sort of get away with more things.
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And I think this like
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you know, as this character.
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Probably in real life, too.
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Well, and then extended going to SNL for a second, because I looked at some of your stuff.
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There s some great YouTube videos that kind of show a lot of that I was aware of.
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But to watch it again, Laura Parsons, who talks like a child star and then goes way out of bounds.
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It s sort of that smiling, super likable, but then says the totally inappropriate thing.
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It just feels like it s a wheelhouse that you have, you know, and I love the bar mitzvah boy.
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It s so that character Jacob.
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His name is Jacob.
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Yeah.
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He s so cute and sweet.
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And you captured a boy that s like 12 or something.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Completely try to interact with him, but he just keeps reading his script.
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He s kind of he s not like warm.
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He s kind of like rude.
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And very stuck on his script.
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It really is a funny observation that he just has to keep going back to his speech.
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Yeah.
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Well, I think boys that age too, that s, I also, I mean, I just think boys that age are so awkward.
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And especially when they have to go have bar mitzvahs, they don t know like how to navigate that like formality.
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And so they just like go like this to like,
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put their glasses up and stuff, because their hands are just like... It looks like high pressure.
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I went to a bat mitzvah last week, and it looks like such high pressure.
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I got to hear... Who else was telling me they were... Oh, yeah.
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I know what you went to, and I got to hear about it.
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It was pretty high-falutin .
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What was it?
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Why?
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Was any celebrities there?
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Conan was there.
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Conan!
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Yeah.
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I think he has a pass to go to all bat mitzvahs.
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I ve seen him in every one.
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And, but he, he was there and, but the, you know, when they give their speeches and stuff, it s about two hours and it s like pressure for the parents.
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Everyone has to get up and talk.
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Everyone has to do things.
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There s a lot, there s a lot of changing of the hands and, and then they have to recite.
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I think she was singing, possibly in Hebrew.
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Is that possible?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You usually have to sing like you re, I could be getting like your haftura.
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portion or something.
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Yeah.
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And it s all like, na, na, na, na, na, na.
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Like it s all like, kind of like what?
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There was some toe tappers in there.
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I didn t understand all of it, but.
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Toe tappers.
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Yeah.
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And it was nice that you.
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Oh, that I went.
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Oh, you just froze.
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But I think she said I went.
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She froze off.
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I m just going to talk about myself.
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I did go.
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She had a great voice and she sang.
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And so to combine.
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Oh my God, Dana s frozen too.
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Am I the sole survivor?
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That s, you know, a little orthopedic action.
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All right, I m going to stop talking.
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David?
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David?
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David, we ve lost him.
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But we re not frozen, so we can continue.
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My guest today is Vanessa Bayer, and David will be back in a second.
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He probably just took a bathroom break.
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Oh, it all just shut down.
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He s coming back.
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Rachel from Friends.
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I just have a list of some of your greatest hits that are just fun to talk about.
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David, are you back?
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Unfortunately, yes.
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We re so happy.
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Did you guys never go away?
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We never went away.
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Oh, and I was talking about singing?
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No, well, we heard past that, and it was something about going to the daytime bat mitzvah.
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Oh, I was saying you went to the service.
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I went to the service.
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There was singing.
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I m going to go back a half hour.
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I went to the service.
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We talked only about you while you were gone.
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So don t worry.
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We talked about how her tunes were toe tappers.
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We re not toe tappers.
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She has a great voice.
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She sang.
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We did two hours.
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It was interesting and everyone was excited.
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And then that night they had a full-blown rager.
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All right, a super spreader event.
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Omicron 3.B-7X.
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I think I had the most germs out of anyone.
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You know what happened is, I think you were just talking about Jennifer Aniston.
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My daughter was so excited to meet Jennifer.
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We ll finish up that thought if you have a second.
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We ll go back.
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The funny thing was,
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I was at the table and I go...
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And I said, hey, you guys want a drink?
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I was running the bar and it was, it was three celeb types.
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No, two.
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Two and a half stars.
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I m gonna go grab.
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And I go, you guys want anything?
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But I was a little buzzed.
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And they go, oh yeah, maybe like a vodka soda with splash.
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And then I was like, yeah, I ll take like a, maybe a creme de cassis lemon twist.
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I go, yep.
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And then I m walking and I m realizing I don t really remember it.
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And I m saying it over and over my head and like,
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paying telephone with myself, but I m saying it back wrong too.
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And then people are like, Spader.
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And I know people there.
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And I m like, hold on, hold on.
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And then I come back to the table.
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I m like, here s your Jaeger bomber and a side of spaghetti.
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And they re like, what?
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And I m like, what did you want?
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And of course I botched the whole thing.
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Anyway, we can cut that out.
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I m never going to be a bartender, Bob.
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That s for after hearing that story.
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I will never allow myself to get recruited to serve drinks.
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We had a great time.
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And then when, I think I left with Harper, my daughter, but Halsey was about to sing.
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and Charlie Puth, Charlie Poop, what s his name?
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And Chunk Poop.
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And they sang and then, but the one before that was when I was leaving with my mom, when the other daughter had a rager and my mom was like, oh, my feet are tired.
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I go, we can get you out of here.
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So we ve been here like three hours.
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So we re walking out and we,
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This guy goes, don t go.
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And I turn, it s Adam Levine, and he s got his shirt off.
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And my mom goes, ooh, who are you?
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And she goes, he goes, I m a singer.
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I m going on right now.
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It s a surprise.
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And she goes, oh, why are we leaving?
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I go, you wanted to leave.
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And she goes, no, let s stay a couple.
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And then I go.
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She goes, I got my sketches on.
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I m fine.
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So we go back in and then she just is like holding her phone up like every kid there watching.
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Oh, my God.
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That s so fun.
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Those must have been the most fun bat mitzvahs of all time.
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I just hear.
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Yeah, I can t imagine.
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I mean it was just like a just a fun party and they all got to talk and sing and do everything But anyway back to this.
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So you did you re right you re talking about Very cool impression that Vanessa did Jennifer Aniston Yeah
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Yeah, I was just saying it was like she was sort of she was considered like a friend of the show and no one was really doing her.
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It s true.
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I was like, I don t think I ve seen people do of all obvious huge stars.
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Yeah, because I think they were like, you have to get it.
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They re sort of like you have to get it right.
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And like, we love her so much.
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We don t want to like, even though like I was saying, like, I think usually often the impressions are like kind of
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tributes to people, you know, they re not like negative, they re not, but then I,
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Then I did it on Kimmel, I think, actually.
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And then I did like Rachel, you know, Jennifer Anderson doing Rachel on Kimmel.
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And then the next my next season on SNL, they let me do it like on Weekend Update.
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And then I did a movie that Jennifer Anderson was in.
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And that s when I met her.
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And she was an office party.
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Yes.
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Office Christmas party.
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And she was so nice about it.
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And we were like, she was like,
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Um, I don t know if it was her or Chris McMillan who does her hair.
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Who s also so funny.
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One of them was like, it s, it was one of their ideas, I think maybe, or, or, or we were all like, that would be so fun to, for them to come on, uh, for her to come on as, but did she come on without hosting?
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Yeah, she came on, it was like the holiday episode, I think.
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And I did, um, I did,
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Rachel, and then she like comes on to update, but she wasn t hosting.
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She wasn t hosting.
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No, that s even bigger for the audience.
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They go bananas.
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Did you have, you know, Oh, go ahead.
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Oh, no, I ve had nothing.
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I just have your technique.
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And did you have a, a line or a little thing that she did as Rachel that hooked you into that?
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Yeah.
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Her, yeah.
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Her, well, because I think I, her going like, yeah, oh, oh, yeah.
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Like her like thinking.
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And then.
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Yeah, that s like spot on.
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And then how she like finishes words.
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She goes like, that s right.
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Like she does it.
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Yeah, I mean, that s well, those are hard to pick up.
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But Dana s great at that.
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That s why I m doing Ross Perot or something.
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This is a very subtle.
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I m not near you, but I but I but it was just it s fun.
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Yeah, it s just fun to to.
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It s fun.
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It s incredibly fun.
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And now that we re here as Vanessa Bayer Impressionists, Miley Cyrus, were you the first one to sort of break that on SNL?
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Because that s a really fun... Yeah, I couldn t believe... One of the hosts had done it
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in like a sketch or something, but in general, no one was doing her.
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And I couldn t believe it because she also has such a distinct way of talking.
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It s a really distinct, twangy voice.
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Yeah.
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And and I think we have really we both have these just like enormous mouths.
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And she s like, hey, leave me out of this.
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So I think it just felt like a natural, a natural thing to do.
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So I auditioned with Miley.
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I had been working on that.
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Yeah.
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And I did this thing about like her comparing herself to
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But not in like a sacrilege, but her comparing herself to Jesus.
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Like, we both have really long hair and stuff like that.
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And like, we both have, like, nails in her.
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I don t know.
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Like, it sounds like really bad importance.
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Let me try.
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I don t do it, but let me try it.
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Hi, I m Miley Cyrus.
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Oh, that s terrible.
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You just say you always say the name of the person you re doing to let people know you re doing it.
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Miley Cyrus.
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How y all doing?
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No, it s awful.
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You know, that s the thing about impressions.
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You just have to be bad at first.
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If you say, I m consciously gonna try to do this person, you have to just wander around by yourself and do it out loud and be horrible, right?
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It s so, yeah.
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I do Madonna, but it s on the last day of her 160 city tour when she just left Japan and her voice is fried.
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Holiday!
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If we took off.
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I m Madonna.
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I saw a video of her and it was the last day of her tour and I m like, I think she blew a tweeter or something because her voice was so low at that point.
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If we took off.
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I auditioned with a Madonna and never made it on the show.
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And that s a tough one.
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How did that go, Vanessa?
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I mean, what was the she was doing a roast of Sean Penn.
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And guys, it s going to be so bad.
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You re going to just say, I know you ll be OK.
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Hello, I m Madonna.
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It was like it was like
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This is a roast of my husband, Sean Penn.
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I don t know.
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That s kind of good.
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That s when Madonna had a little bit of a British accent.
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She s British.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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She used to be more British than now.
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Well, when I was, yeah, she s- We go through that phase.
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We all do.
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She s intimidating.
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When I was interviewing Sean Penn as the church lady, she was just eagle-eyed, didn t even blink.
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She was off, right off the camera, just staring at me.
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Don t you hurt my husband at the time.
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Did you have like out of body experiences?
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I mean, there s two things I want to get to is one is your audition and what that meant to you and how you kind of got there.
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We know you went through Second City and other improv groups in Chicago, which seems to be a classic move, but talk to either of those things either.
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Well, your audition and how you how you made your way to that.
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What was that?
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Yeah, I well, I had been living in Chicago.
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I was in Chicago
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for like about five years and then I sort of got like fixated on SNL and I was like,
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I like submitted a writing packet to them and stuff.
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And then I took this workshop with this director, Matt Miller, who was, he was sort of starting to do these workshops where you would do like characters and impressions for like five minutes to a classroom of people.
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And then the classroom and he would like give you notes on it.
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And then you would come, yeah, you d come back in two weeks and he d put it on tape.
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And then, and the thing that he told us, which was really helpful was he was like, if you re auditioning for something like SNL, like they want you to be like a good writer too.
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So you, so it s not just important that your characters and impressions are accurate or like good, but that also that what they re saying is funny.
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Yeah.
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Like really stuck with me.
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So, so I did that.
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Yeah.
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That s the hard part.
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Right.
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So I did that.
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And then
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I had my DVD and then a year later, SNL came to Chicago and I basically auditioned for Sharna, the owner of IO, with this DVD.
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They were coming and I called to get an appointment.
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Most people were getting booked for the next week and she was like, can you come in an hour and audition for me?
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me to get into the SNL work showcase.
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And so I just watched my DVD that I d given her a year before and never looked at it.
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I don t think, but, um, and, um, and I watched those characters and then I came in and I just did them for her and she put me in the showcase.
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And then you got seen at the Improv Olympics by some SNL people?
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Yeah, I got seen at I.O.
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and then... Who was working in talent?
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Was it Marcy or was it Shoemaker?
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Marcy was like sort of just... Shoemaker left the year before I started, which is so sad.
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He went to Seth?
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I just missed him.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Down a floor to Seth Meyers?
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, same floor.
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Oh, it is same floor.
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Yeah.
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Same floor, which is crazy.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So but Marcy was sort of working more on 30 Rock.
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And so it was Lindsey Shookus and.
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I think I don t think.
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And Aiella.
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No, I m a rail.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She s an agent now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She s great.
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Yeah.
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And they come up to you.
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Are they there or are they contact you?
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How does that even work?
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So I, so I auditioned and they,
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I auditioned and then they asked, like I left town right after.
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I was supposed to, I was doing the Del Close Marathon with my improv team from Chicago.
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And I was supposed to go to New York that weekend to do the Del Close Marathon.
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And for those who don t know, it s an improv marathon.
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And he s kind of the legendary.
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And he s got the Del Close.
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Yeah.
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And and so the showcase that I owe the first night ran really long.
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So they moved me to the second night.
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They added a second night.
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And so I missed my Del Close marathon show, which my team fully understood.
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Why did I bring that up?
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Oh, then I went to New York the next day to see my improv team there.
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And then they called
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SNL called and was like, do you want to get drinks with like Lauren and some of the writers?
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Oh, my God.
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I know.
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And I was like, I m I m not in Chicago anymore.
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I went to New York and I was like and they were like, it s OK, it s fine, whatever.
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And then so then then they called me and said, like, would you like to come to New York in two weeks to do the showcase?
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For.
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The, uh, camera test is what I mean.
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Well, that sounds like two weeks of hell.
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as far as nerves or I, you know, can we just back up for just a second really quickly?
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Like how, because I know that people listen to this, wanna be in, wanna get on Saturday Night Live or be in show business.
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Like what in God s name made you think you could do this and how did you end up doing improv in Chicago?
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And when did you kind of think to yourself, I think I m actually really good, I m really funny, I maybe should be.
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It feels so, yeah.
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It s surreal.
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It feels so weird to,
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But it s almost hard for me to talk about this to you guys, because you guys are like...
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We re scared too.
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Well, we all did the same thing, but we all had probably no confidence and we all are just trying to just inch to the next thing and just hope crossing our fingers something clicks or whatever.
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Yeah, it was a fantasy that seemed impossible really for the longest time.
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But then I had Dennis Miller and friends got on and it became more reality.
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But for your journey, I mean, when was the genesis of that?
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of you thinking you might be a funny person in life for a living.
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It s such a huge thing.
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Anyone who s ever worked with me, excuse me, knows about the all-female sketch comedy and musical parody troupe I was in in college called Bloomers.
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Okay, so it started in college.
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Bloomers.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Bloomers.
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It was, well, I didn t start it.
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It had been around for about 25 years when I started it.
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Yeah, I mean, it s still around, you can still.
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You know, it s online here in Philly.
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Still know the shows there.
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Yeah.
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The shows are live in Philadelphia.
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But I do think they have an online presence now because it s, you know, been such a long time since I was there.
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And the Internet was like kind of newer.
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But but I did bloomers and I like loved it.
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And I was like, I always like
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I was pretty good at school when I was in like growing up like I was like if I study really hard, I can get good grades.
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I m not saying that I wasn t good at anything else, but I m just saying like all of my friends were like these incredible athletes and stuff and I was like I ll never know what it s like to like
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be like good at sports or something like that.
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Like, I just didn t know what it felt like.
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And then when I started doing bloomers, I was like, Oh, this feels like I get it.
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Like, I feel like I understand this.
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Or you fit in or something.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It felt like this is a world where I can thrive kind of.
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And then I was like, and I,
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I was like, this is what I should do.
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And I also, like, I ve talked a lot about, like, with my show coming out, which is kind of about someone who, who survives like childhood leukemia, as I did.
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And then also, and, and like,
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really like once she s done with it, misses like all the attention she got and stuff.
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I like sort of, I was like, I would joke about stuff like that with my friends when I was sick.
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Like we would joke around a lot.
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And I was like, I think that actually helped like kind of form my like sense of humor.
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And, and I was like, Oh, I should just, this is like the world I want to be in forever.
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And when you go through something like that, leukemia, and listen, I ve caught myself telling people I have it.
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I get it, but.
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But you know, when you have that.
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He got me.
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And then you get beer 15, which is a very formative time of your life, which is very scary and your whole life s in front of you, but maybe it isn t.
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And obviously it s great that you got through it.
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And then you probably develop a sense of humor, you re saying.
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And then also it said you helped with Make-A-Wish.
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You did a Make-A-Wish too, right?
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I did a make a wish.
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Yeah.
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And how does that work?
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Do they check if you re bluffing?
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I mean, is it, is it just like, no, so this is a common misconception about make a wish is that you have to be terminal.
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You just have to have a life threatening illness.
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Okay.
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I like that.
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You can be like, like I was actually done with treatment when I had my wish, which was to go to Hawaii.
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Um,
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But so yeah, so yeah, but you do have to have, like you can t fake that you have a disease, but your prognosis can be good.
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Okay.
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And you, and it says, I think you work with them after too, right?
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Yeah.
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When I was in Chicago, especially, I volunteered with them and then I ve, I ve done some stuff with them since with like some of their gala, like hosting some of their gala.
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You know, Sandler does a lot with them and you know, Sandler s always quiet about this stuff, but I ve been over there at Happy Madison or he will call and say, Hey, we got a kid coming down.
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Do you want to come down?
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Cause he likes whatever movie or what, and then we ll all, whoever s around can rally down there and just like,
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he ll meet us, he plays basketball with him, then we come and we meet him for lunch, and then we all go back.
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But the kids, he always makes sure they have a good time.
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So I really think those things are cool, and I think they do a great job.
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Very cool.
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It s awesome.
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And by the way, on this same subject, How to Care for a Sick Bear, which I read today.
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Yeah, oh, thank you.
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And it s beautiful and really emotional, because it s such a sweet book.
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It s for kids to really understand if their friend gets sick,
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How do they navigate that and react?
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It s really a sweet children s book.
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Well, I sort of I I wanted to write that because I was like I noticed like from from me being sick, like a lot of times people get like really freaked out when someone is sick and they think like, sure.
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their maybe their personality has changed or something like it s like it s like you sort of awkward.
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It s just especially for kids.
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It s so scary.
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But like the lesson that I sort of learned from being sick is like you if someone s going through any kind of trauma, like you don t have to like you don t have to like assume that they want to be left alone.
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Like it s good to like reach out to the person.
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And then if they want to be left alone, they can tell you.
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But like, it s good.
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I don t know.
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That s and I m yeah.
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And is it good to be treated pretty normally?
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When I meet these kids and stuff, I try to just goof around and be normal and not make such a production out of the fact that they re sick.
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Just treat him like a normal dude or goof around with him or even make fun of him.
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The same thing if you visit Walter Reed and people with shattered legs, same kind of thing.
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They want you to be kind of up and funny and ask questions.
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Take their mind off it for a second or something.
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Yeah.
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But it s awkward.
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It s hard to know sometimes what to say to someone who s having struggles.
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Sure.
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You know, just.
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Yeah, it s like,
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Yeah, it s really hard for people.
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And again, I think that s why I would joke around with my friends a lot when I was sick, not only about all the perks I was getting, but also about like, you know, I d be like.
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I d be like, you know, you think you re so cool because your hair is real.
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Because I was like, I think so.
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And and I they would like be like, great, you know, and then they would like come home from like school and like give me all the gossip, you know, like they realized I was like the same person.
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But it is it s like so scary for everyone.
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But that s I do think like.
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That s right, like everyone s still the same.
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They just have this thing they re going through.
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Well, you know, pity is a powerful kind of force.
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And, you know, when I had my health issue, blocked arteries and stuff like that, and the doctor had a bad day, but I m totally fine.
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But, you know, a lot of what I call the RCA Victor is that the head would tilt to the left like the little dog in the RCA Victor.
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Aw, are you feeling okay today?
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I said I either feel perfect or I m in a hospital.
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There s no middle ground.
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So the hangover from you going through this, getting completely healthy, totally rear view mirror, and then probably having residual people going, are you okay, Vanessa?
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How are you feeling?
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And that s not their fault, but it s like you don t want pity.
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At a given point, you want to go, I kicked ass, I m fine.
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So go ahead, talk to that.
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I m just babbling.
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No, no, no, that s true.
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I mean, it is, it is like, it is like, um, it s interesting because I sort of went from like everybody knowing that I was sick when I was in high school to then being in college where like, nobody knew.
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And it was like, um, and it was like, fine, but I had to get used to like, everyone s treating me like normally.
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What s that?
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Yeah.
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I was like, well,
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but can I kind of cut the line here?
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It s like being famous or something.
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Well, that s the thing.
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And then like, I guess I graduated college in 2004 and I got on SNL in 2010.
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So then I got on SNL.
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It was like my new leukemia.
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No one s ever said that on this podcast.
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That s a t-shirt, I m just saying.
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Lauren says, you know, it ll feel like leukemia for the first few weeks.
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It ll feel like you have some sort of autoimmune deficiency the first few weeks.
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I have a few hard-hitting questions for Vanessa.
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Okay, let s go.
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This is called the hot seat section.
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I was going over some of your things, and Dana s not brave enough to hit you with these.
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I like the nice questions.
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David, go give her hell.
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This is called the spade moment.
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I saw that you coincidentally make out with a lot of guys in your sketches.
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My God, Adam Driver, the great looking, Ryan Gosling, the biggest stud in America.
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Oh yeah, I saw the Ryan Gosling one, yeah.
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Even, I think Kristen Stewart even maybe, or maybe.
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Yeah.
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Hilarious.
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Chris Pratt, yeah.
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That s so funny.
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So is that planned or just accidental?
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And Chris Pratt?
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah, it is planned.
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But the Adam Driver one, I did not write.
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But the other ones I helped.
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I kind of co-wrote all the other ones.
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Hey, guess what?
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Just a newsflash so we can trend.
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All you have to do right now, only if you want to say who is the best kisser and it s going to be all over Yahoo News.
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Oh, that s right.
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But you don t have to.
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But that s a classic.
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I don t have an answer because all the kisses were different and wonderful in their own ways.
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You know, it s funny when I was watching those, I m like going, you kiss, when you kiss, when you have to kiss someone sort of crazy, it s really not even kissing.
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You re just like, how do we do this?
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It looks nuts, but I don t know if it s sexy.
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And then you re always wondering, I don t want to get their icy leathery tongue actually jabbing around.
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You just never know.
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Like one time I kissed a girl on an old movie, Dana, and I go, how do you want this?
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I d never kissed anyone on camera.
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And she goes, oh, just kiss me like, uh, I m your girlfriend.
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Doesn t matter.
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I don t care anything.
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Do anything.
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So, okay.
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And so, uh, she came in close and I touched the side of her cheek and kissed her and she, and, and they go cut and she looks at the director and she goes, can you tell him not to touch my face?
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Oh yeah.
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That, you get, you get canceled for that now.
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That s a bummer because you asked her.
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I asked her and then I go, is that me?
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And she didn t even look at me.
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She just looked at the director and I was like, I m one inch away from her going,
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I ll do whatever you want, I tried, I don t know what to do, I m scared.
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I have a more benign kissing question for Vanessa.
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Okay.
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Because this may happen to anybody.
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Did you kiss anyone on SNL where you just had a little bit of electricity, just a little bit of like, oh, there s a chemistry, nothing illicit or pornographic, just like, oh, this is some sort of physical chemistry with, you don t have to give us their name.
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This wasn t bad.
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I m going for a general.
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Well.
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I m going for a general.
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But then give us her name after.
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I think, I think I sort of like, it s hard because you re like, if you re in a live sketch, it s like really hard to.
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It would happen during rehearsal probably.
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Like a rehearsal or like a pre-tape thing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I, any of the people we named, I would guess.
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Well, what about Ryan Gosling?
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Cause my sister, my sister who s in her sixties, but she s always like, well, you got to admit Dane, Ryan Gosling.
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I m just saying, she always says, well, you got to admit Dane.
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Admit what?
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Like you re fighting her on it.
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He would be, I know I m, well, by the way, we ll just inject this is here now.
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How do we, how did, how did we get weird podcasts you do with your brother?
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Which reminds me of me and my sister.
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It s really fun.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that s so nice.
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Well, I, I, I ll just say this, like, as we re recording, I d love to have you.
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both of you as guests sometime, and please agree now, and then it ll be interesting.
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I m not weird, though.
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I m gonna come on, and I wanna talk.
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Dana s so weird.
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Because I love childhood stuff.
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I love finding out what people, I usually say, what movie or TV show blew their mind.
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Did they have a bicycle that they liked and a favorite toy?
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Those are so great.
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Yeah, and I was gonna save these for the end, but if you wanna answer those three now, it d be fine.
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Do you have any answers for those?
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Young, 10, 8, 10, 11 year old Vanessa.
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What was the first one?
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Movie or television show, whereas a little kid, you go, holy shit, you know, it could be The Wizard of Oz.
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It could be anything.
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You know, I m I m sorry to come back to this.
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It was watching you guys on SNL.
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Oh, damn.
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That s a first.
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That s what we would.
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Yeah.
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Watching you guys on SNL, we would watch I wish we would watch
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SNL.
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Here s what we would do.
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We would watch the movie April Fool s today.
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It s a horrible horror movie.
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It s like I was saying, is that a horror movie?
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My friend, Stephanie Rue, had the VHS tape, I think.
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So we would watch April Fool s Day.
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And then sometimes if SNL wasn t on, we d watch The Incredible Mr. Olympics.
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So we would not be scared.
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Oh, yeah.
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She also had that on VHS.
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But then we would stay up and we would watch SNL.
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And it was like our favorite thing.
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And we would quote it all week.
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I mean, you guys were exactly like it just it was you guys were so funny.
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I mean, we were doing like Wayne s World, like my friend Lissy did like a Wayne s World like.
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um, report, like, where they played Wayne and Garth, and, like, we were, like, quoting Tommy, like, we were, like, reenacting Tommy Boyle.
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Like, it s, like, we were just, like, like, just, it was so great.
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It was, like, we were just laughing all the time to it.
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You re a lot younger than I am, so, you know, we had our people, too.
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I mean, the SNL first cast, I was, like, just starting college, but they were, like, rock stars, and I can t believe there s people
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that look like us, act like us on TV doing crazy stuff.
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So I get that, but that s always very nice.
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And if you ever run into them, I get it because when I grew up and I had movies that meant a lot to me and like, that s all that meant everything.
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Most kids are into comedy, but when you re with your buddies and you re watching a movie and it s so funny and you see it over and over,
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And then if I ran into Bill Murray, if I ran into Aykroyd or all these people like Eddie Murphy later in life and you see him, in your head you re still like a kid going, I cannot believe I m in some scenario where I m in the same room with these people.
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Like the SNL 40th was really a candy store.
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It was like, oh my God.
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Vanessa, I just want to ask her a question real fast too, because it dovetails to what you said.
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Like, do you have people fan out on you at an airport or somewhere with, oh my God, it s Vanessa Payne, I can t believe it.
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So how do you react to that?
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I mean, so you see how it s just a, you have your fan base and people be flipped out to meet you and want to be like you and it s a trip, isn t it?
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Yeah, it s so nice.
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It s so, it s so crazy.
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It s just, it just is like,
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It s crazy.
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Yeah.
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It s crazy to think that, like, because, you know, the thing Lauren says or is it about that you re not the one that what is it?
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I was going to say the one and I m going to try my impression.
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It s not going to be.
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No, everyone has to do one on the show.
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It s everybody s favorite cast is the one when they were growing up.
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That s right.
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Yeah.
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That s what he said, but I think that s true.
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And that s not to take any credit away from you guys.
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Sure, but it is kind of... We were in your formative years.
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You were watching Wayne s World and you were like 11 or 12.
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There are certain years, early formative years, teen years, that things just hit you harder.
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So go ahead, David.
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Right, right, right.
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And then you start going out more.
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And by the way, we didn t have this benefit of...
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if you miss it, which I miss it a lot, and then it s suddenly on a Twitter, like I follow SNL now, or it s on Yahoo News, or it s like, here s our best sketch, or here s five sketches, so you go, oh, I didn t even have to watch it, like, it s going to be forced upon me at some point during the week that I see who hosted, who did this, and that, and then you go, oh, that s a great benefit of getting the show out there.
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
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And we wish we had to tape it.
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I mean, I would tape it a lot if I wasn t home.
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But then, you know, like you start watching it and someone s taped over.
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It s just like it s just not very reliable.
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Wait for a rerun, you know, six months later, I would just and I m sure you guys can relate to this.
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Just the idea of the grease paint and the wires and the clothes falling off.
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Like you re in 8H, you re in your costume and you re seeing your bandmate, your co-star in the sketch, his wig is riding up, and you re exhausted or you just bumped your knee and you re just trying to get the crowd there to like you.
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And then 10 years later, you see it on YouTube and it s all shiny and bright and you have people that are fans of it.
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But in the moment, it s like, really?
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It was just in a dress going, isn t that special?
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You saw it?
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It s so surreal.
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Yeah, it s really, yeah, crazy.
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The second you get done with it and you re doing laundry on Sunday and then like, someone calls you and goes, dude, it s Michael Keaton this week, what do you got?
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And you re like, we just fucking finished Tom Hanks last night.
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I mean, God, I gotta, that s where the burnout comes from is,
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You, like you re there for a hundred hosts or something, you know, and you re like, everyone, Glenn Close comes in, Danny DeVito, they go, what do you got for him?
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And you have to rack your brain and write and distress about read through and then you don t get it on.
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Then you re like, now I m one show behind for the next show, I gotta get something on.
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What you re saying about the writers, you want to give them some moves or some chop or be funny around the office just so they go, oh, maybe you could do that in this sketch we re writing.
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Or maybe, do you do Miley and you re like, yeah, no, okay, maybe she could be in this sketch.
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And all that synergy is where you have to be sort of ready at all times or have some moves.
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to get in there.
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Very tricky.
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Did you have a character or a sketch that was just killing so hard that every time you did it, it just killed?
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Or one that, when you re in it, you re like, damn, this is rocking.
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We are crushing it.
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Yeah, which is your best one that works.
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You know those kind of magic moments?
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I mean, you had Rachel, you had...
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The Poetry Class.
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Was it Weather Girl?
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Dawn Litt, Weather Girl and Coherent.
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That s really acid humor, you know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Those ones, they, the weather one, I didn t get on until like right before I left.
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Like it was my, I did it my third to last show and my last show.
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Such a weird idea.
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And then I came back the next season and did it on update, like when I wasn t on the show anymore.
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But that one was really felt like,
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It was just so fun.
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The Bar Mitzvah Boy too, and Laura Parsons, the child actor.
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It was stuff that I felt was really from my life that I felt was so funny.
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Not saying that I was being so funny, but just the way that kids act when they re in plays and the way that
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boys are when they re getting permits that are being formal.
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Like it was so it also feels kind of like validating because you re like, I knew that this was like a really funny thing that people do sort of, you know, so.
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But it is it s so fun.
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I mean, you guys it s like it s so fun when you re doing something like that out there.
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It s yeah.
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So it s so hard.
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It s so hard to have fun, because especially your first couple shows and you re quick changing and all that, but I think your stuff really exudes fun.
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And you re not breaking, but you can just tell you re having so much fun doing those characters.
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And it just translates.
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Your rom-com thing on Update with Michael.
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Oh yeah, that rom-com thing, yeah.
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That s pretty funny, you see that one, Dana?
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That s pretty funny too, she starts going.
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I mean, the weather girl s a little weirder, which is even funnier, because you re saying insanity, and everyone s like, what?
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And then the romp got me like, is this Kismet?
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And he s like, is what?
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I just met you 70 seconds ago.
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There was one funny one about when you were playing, I guess, former porn stars where they carry Tina Fey by and she goes, she lets the dogs out.
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She let the dogs out.
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It was just like nonsense.
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So dumb, yeah.
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But it s hard to write smart, dumb stuff.
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It is, it is, I agree.
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Because just dumb doesn t work.
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Yeah, but it s so fun when the audience responds to stuff that s so strange.
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Yeah, they re waiting for it, yeah.
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They appreciate it.
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It s the best when it s a non-sequitur.
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It s a line that shouldn t be funny, but it is.
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It s just in that area of like, then they repeat it.
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It s like a good comedy club crowd or a good improv crowd where you go up and they re pretty trained to go, don t give us the basic stuff.
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It s like going to a nice restaurant going, give us the sushi from the back.
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And then the people, you do these weird things and they like it.
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Yeah, it s so, if there s, yeah, there s like, there s nothing like that feeling of like, cause it s just, it s, you can t predict any of that stuff, which is why it s so hard.
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It s like, you just don t know what stuff is gonna.
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Yeah, cause I don t know about you, but I just am not a gifted at writing traditional jokes, like jokes, like Dennis Miller, brilliant at it.
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Is it David?
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David.
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David is really, really good writer.
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And performer, but he also can write really great jokes.
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And so I m always coming off rhythm and abstraction and extrapolation, and I think you re kind of a kindred spirit, because you do sort of acid-y stuff, you know?
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Yeah, it s so nice.
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I mean, yeah.
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And there s room for all kinds.
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I love when you do that stuff.
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Yeah, that s the good that s part about the show everyone to get everyone doing different stuff.
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It works All right.
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Well, let s let her go Dana.
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She s been very nice.
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We just want to reiterate I love that you I love that for you for you.
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I love that for you on Showtime
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with the lovely Molly, which is so fun to watch.
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And some of your real life things are in the show.
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I don t want to give everything away, but... Yeah, yeah.
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It did have a surprise ending.
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Stay to the end.
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Stay to the end and you ll see a twist.
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You ll be hooked.
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It s like a M. Night Shyamalan.
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I smell a big binge.
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I m just doing Lauren trying to work a thing at first stream that thing.
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Also, how did we get weird a podcast with your musician brother Jonah?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Who I know you met once he was at the show when you were there.
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He loved meeting you so much.
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I don t think he s met you, David, but
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but you ll all meet when- He did, was I nice to him?
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You were so nice.
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You were so weird.
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Oh, good.
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You were so nice.
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I love musicians.
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I like anyone who plays and sings, which you also sing, and you have, I never had that.
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Here, I can funny sing, but you can sing.
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Well, I think I can more funny sing.
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Well, welcome to Compliment Theater.
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Bye, Dana.
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Mostly bye to Dana, and also bye to Vanessa.
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Bye, you guys.
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Thank you so much.
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It s been such a pleasure.
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This was so fun.
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Love to see you at the 50th.
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We ll see you at the 50th, but not sooner.
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Okay.
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Bye-bye.
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He s done.
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Okay, bye.
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Bye.
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Hey, what s up, flies?
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What s up, fleas?
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What s up, people that listen?
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We wanna hear from you and your dumb questions.
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Questions, ask us anything.
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Anything you want.
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You can email us at flyonthewallatcadence13.com.
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Hey, Dana, David, this is Colin Mack.
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This is our Q&A session.
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And Colin gets to see me sitting on my knees.
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Well, what is his question, David?
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It s called, he starts with big fan.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I m wondering what props you may have kept from your SNL days or your movie careers.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Okay, I ll go first.
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I do keep some stuff.
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You do, I ve seen your house.
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You have a lot of mementos and memorabilia.
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Yeah, I have some clothes from Dickie Roberts, just the outfits, for some reason I kept them.
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I have the Jodert, what was that, janitor shirt.
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I have the wig, it was a wig.
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Everyone s like, what?
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I wish it wasn t, I would grow my hair like that in a second.
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And then I have, oh, Farley s family gave me his coat from Tommy Boy, which is a big one.
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That s what I ll say.
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Do you have like a diorama in your house, like stuffed people that are wearing these clothes that look like you?
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No, but we re working on it.
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Okay, I just had to ask.
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It s gonna be you, Danny.
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That d be scary to bump into in the middle of the night.
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When I stuff you.
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What, Tommy Boy?
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Don t jump back in.
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That s what you were saying, Tommy Boy.
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Tommy Boy jacket from Farley, that checkered one from the poster.
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And then I have just some little nicknames.
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Snacks, what do you got?
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What do you got?
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I also have a Joe Dirt s wig.
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Weirdly, that wasn t in the movie.
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I have Joe Dirt s pubes still.
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I have the chair and the receptionist spit that you did.
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And you are?
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No, this is weird because I got a, it s not weird, but I just said it was weird.
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I got an SNL and in those days, I came in with church lady.
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as a character and then they changed the rule but I owned it, quote unquote.
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So I had a copy of the church lady dress made and wig just in case I ever wanted to do something with it.
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Take on the road.
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So I have the church lady s dress and wig and glasses and maybe twice a year I wear it for a day.
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Yeah, you could run a superhero movie where you go into a phone booth and come out as church lady.
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Certainly.
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You walk in, I wish the church lady was here to fix this.
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Hang on, you on there?
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Well, they re like, oh my God.
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Well, the church lay is funny to me because it s condescension and being patronizing and passive aggressive is a funny attitude.
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So she would say, well, well, well, we kept the dress.
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We want to be the lady, but we re not, you know, just a fun rhythm.
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I do like you.
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Give me some lady.
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Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, look what?
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Oh, look what the cat dragged in.
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Apparently we don t love Jesus.
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Apparently we don t love Jesus.
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Yeah, there you go.
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Apparently we punch people when we try to solve our problem.
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You already do it better than I did.
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No, your voice, I never see it coming.
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Your voice goes so different when you do impressions.
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Well, well, well, well, we ve got a little podcast and we ve got to fly on the wall and we want to swat him.
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Listeners are going, what is this, and how do we turn it off?
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Listeners are going, how did my question turn into this?
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But that s what happens here.
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How come it s not a kill switch?
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You ask a question, get fucked.
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All right, thanks.
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Thanks, Colin.
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Colin Mack.
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This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13.
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Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes.
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Available now for free wherever you get your podcasts.
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No joke, folks.
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Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment.
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The show s lead producer is Greg Holtzman with production and engineering support from Serena Regan and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.