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in the industry that I was previously associated with, which was large life insurance.
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Please welcome to the show, Gary Brecker.
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Gary, thank you for being here.
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I am so excited to be here at the top of the mountain.
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On the way up here, though, I was kind of like, not it on some of these places that are sticking out from the edge of the cliff.
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I ve been looking forward to this.
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I m a huge fan.
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I ve been loving what you ve been doing in the industry.
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I ve been loving watching your interviews.
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I m so glad to finally have you here.
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I remember when I first came across you, I told my team, I was like, we ve got to get Gary on.
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Really?
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Thank you so much, man.
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I m super pumped to be here too, man.
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Me too.
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And I m always trying to learn.
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I feel like I m always trying to grow.
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I m new in this space in the sense that I got into in the last couple of years, and I m learning from great experts like yourself.
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And I want to start off by talking about this because
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You talk about the ability to predict how long someone will live.
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And that sounds fascinating and crazy at the same time.
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How is that possible?
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Well, first of all, it s based on large data.
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And it wasn t me just looking at blood work and gene tests and saying, I can tell you how many more months you have left on earth.
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But if we got in the industry that I was previously associated with, which was large life insurance, if we got 10 years of medical records on you and 10 years of demographic data,
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we could tell the insurance company how long you had to live to the month.
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And there are enormous companies that do this.
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The biggest one is probably a Fasano and Associates, but this is based on very, very large pools of data.
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And remember that life insurance companies have data that no other financial services enterprise has, no other bank has, CDC doesn t have it, collegiate universities that are doing longevity studies don t have it.
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And that is that they know the day, the date, the time, the location, and the cause of death
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for hundreds of millions of lives.
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And they have blood work on these people.
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They have very in-depth analytics on their demographic data.
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If you ve ever applied for a large life insurance policy, let s say $5 million, $10 million, $25 million policy,
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There was, at some point, somebody determining not where you were on an actuarial curve, but your specific mortality.
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And the way that it s done is you start with an actuarial curve, right?
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So if you re a 35-year-old male, you have a life expectancy of X. If you re a 28-year-old female, you have a life expectancy of Y.
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The question is not where are you on that curve, but what is your specific mortality?
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And it s incredible how big data trends can actually predict and not only the onset of and the severity of, but how quickly you will succumb to certain disease conditions.
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And what became glaringly apparent to me was that, you know, if the database that I had access to during that 20 plus year career could see the light of day,
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it would permanently change the face of humanity.
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It would upend modern medicine in a way that would be catastrophic, because they have real data.
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You know, so if you went to your cardiologist, for example, and he put some heart stints in your heart, and you left his office, you may or may not ever see him again.
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He doesn t know if something happened to you three days later or 30 years later, if you passed because of complications related to the heart stint or just died of happy, ripe old age.
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But the insurance company know exactly
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Day, date, time, location and cause of death.
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And you can triangulate that back into the record and you can see where the mistakes were made either in diagnostics, as we know medical error is the third leading cause of death and that doesn t mean that doctors are out to kill people or that the healthcare system is out to kill people.
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We know that it s completely overburdened and sometimes medical error occurs.
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It just happens to occur at a rate that in the United States at least is the third leading cause of death.
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And if you ever want to question whether or not insurance companies are good at predicting mortality, just look at what happened during the 2008 and 2009 financial services crisis.
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We had 364 banks fail.
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You didn t have a single life insurance company fail.
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In the United States, a valid death claim in America has never failed to have been paid.
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That s an impressive statistic, but you also have to realize that only 2% of life insurance policies ever pay a death claim.
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98% of all life insurance policies lapse.
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So I guess I really belabored that point, but the science of mortality is some of the most accurate science in the world.
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And if you really boil it down to the sum of its components, you find that
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It s predicting where processes in the body that are running on parallel tracks will finally converge, right?
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What we call comorbidities.
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When that happens, there is a parabolic rise in the ability to predict the terminal end of somebody s life.
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We know that, for example,
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all human beings leave this earth the same way.
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We actually all die of the same thing.
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It s called hypoxia, lack of oxygen to the brain.
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So when you can no longer sustain enough oxygen to the brain that you don t have brain function, that s essentially the definition of death.
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And we think of it as a
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an event like a gunshot wound, a heart attack, a bust, a stroke, you know, some other kind of event.
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But the truth is that this is a predictable curve.
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We used to use an underlying what we called a hypoxic curve.
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How well is this person managing oxygen or how poorly are they managing oxygen?
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And once we were able to predict that looking at red blood cell counts, hemoglobin levels, hormone levels, nutrient deficiencies, you can very accurately discern whether or not somebody has a fighting chance of getting out of their condition or that condition, you know, resulting in their demise.
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You know, two things were very trying for me in that industry.
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One was that, you know, I really began to realize that it wasn t just data.
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There were human beings on the other side of these spreadsheets.
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But the second immensely obvious point that came out of 20 years in that career was that the majority of the reason why people are not living healthier, happier, longer, more fulfilling lives were because of things that we called modifiable risk factors.
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just simple changes that they could have made to their daily routine that would have materially changed the trajectory of their life.
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In most cases, they had to do with simple basic nutrients that were missing from their body that were causing the expression of disease.
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And, you know, anemias, D3 deficiencies, hormone imbalance, not because of their endocrine system had a particular disease or pathology, but because it was nutrient deficient.
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And it became so obvious to me that if I had just been able to pick up the phone
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and call any number of these people, you know, I could have dramatically changed the trajectory of their life.
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Wow.
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I mean, when I m hearing you talk about oxygen to the brain, which sounds so obvious, but it s something that is rarely articulated.
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Oxygen to the brain is not just gas entering the brain.
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If you look at the molecular structure of a lot of the states in the brain that we talk about, like if you were to say to me, what is a mood?
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What is an emotional state?
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Well, it s a collection of neurotransmitters, in most cases bound to oxygen.
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If you look at the molecular structure of some of these activated, deactivated neurotransmitters, or some of these, the differences between different moods, elevated emotional states, passion, elation, joy, arousal, or suppressed emotional states, anger, vengeance, despair, you d find that a large reason, a large difference between these two emotional states is the presence of oxygen.
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You know, one of the reasons why no human being has ever woken up laughing is because you don t have the oxidative state to experience laughter.
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But can you wake up angry?
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Very easily.
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Lower tier emotional states do not require the presence of oxygen.
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And so when, you know, if you want to do a fun experiment tonight, just pinch your wife while she s in a deep sleep.
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She will instantly wake up angry, right?
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I actually don t suggest that.
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And then I may laugh.
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But if you wanted her to laugh, right?
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If you wanted her to be joyous, if you wanted her to be elated, aroused, you would have to wake her up, improve the oxidative state, and then allow those emotions to come in to play.
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And so, you know, I have a saying that the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease.
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And so we know, and you know very well because you re in this space, that we feel emotion in an area of the brain called the amygdala, right?
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Two little almonds.
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And the fascinating thing about this area of the brain where we experience every emotional state that we can experience, if you re angry, you re angry in the amygdala.
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If you re elated, you re elated in the amygdala area of the brain.
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is that it is, according to MIT, the sole gateway to the hippocampus, which is where our memory is stored.
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And so when you start thinking about that from a physiological standpoint, you re like, well, the sole gateway to the hippocampus is through the amygdala.
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But when you start thinking of it from a practical standpoint, then the sole gateway to our memory is through our current emotional state.
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And if that s how we access memory, and memory is what we draw upon, you know, our prefrontal cortex and our consciousness, our future draws from our memories, then if the amygdala is what accesses the hippocampus part of the brain and taps into our memory, and then our conscience pulls from our memory, then this essentially means that
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your current emotional state determines your future.
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And I just feel like if we could improve the capacity for people to experience elevated emotional states for prolonged periods of time, not like a heart monitor, right?
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Because you find so many people that are not in good physiological condition that are trying to become in better emotional condition, right?
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Better mood.
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And
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they re only able to reach these emotional states for short periods of time, like a heart monitor.
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And they do all the right things.
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They wake up, they journal, they read self-help motivational books, they go to the right seminars, they try to express gratitude, even fake their way through it.
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But as soon as they re done, that intentional focus drops back down into the state where they most comfortably exist.
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And I believe a lot of this has to do with the oxidative state in the brain.
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It also has to do with nutrient deficiencies, right?
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I mean, every emotion that we can feel, every mood that we can experience is a collection of neurotransmitters.
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As we have imbalances and deficiencies in these, then we cannot manufacture the moods and the emotional states that we really want to experience.
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And then we re told we have a mood disorder or a mental illness.
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And I think very often we just have a lack of mental fitness
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And so when you realize that the happiest people are the people that are moving the most, that have
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the greatest sense of purpose and that they re not necessarily the world s greatest biohackers, but they re eating whole foods.
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They re moving their body a lot.
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They have a sense of purpose.
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You look at the blue zones and some of the things that actually extend life.
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You know, we would see this in the medical record.
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Yeah.
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Were those people actually having some alcohol?
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Yeah.
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Were those people actually having a little bit of elevated LDL cholesterol?
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Sure.
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Did those people eat sweets once in a while?
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Yeah, they sure did.
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But they moved on a consistent basis and they had relationships and they had a sense of purpose and for the most part they ate.
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whole foods and not any particular type of whole food, not any particular type of diet.
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It wasn t a carnivore diet that extended their life.
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It wasn t the keto diet that extended their life.
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It wasn t the raw food vegan diet that extended their life.
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It was the whole food diet, you know, just eating real whole foods.
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So I kind of diverted there for a second.
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No, no, no, no, I get where you re going.
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Sometimes my wife is like, you just eat people s face.
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I love it.
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God forbid you sit next to me on like a commercial flight or something.
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Oh yeah, I love it, I love it.
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Just eat your face.
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How do we do that though?
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Like, how do we get more oxygen to our brain?
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Like, what does that mean?
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What does that look like?
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Well, I mean, we know that sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause of all cause mortality, right?
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And why is sedentary lifestyle the leading cause of all cause mortality?
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We know that sitting is the new smoking.
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Well, we know why smoking was bad for you, right?
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It destroyed the lungs, but, and you know, the nicotine caused permanent lung damage.
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And, but it wasn t the, really the nicotine.
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It was the reduction in the oxidative state.
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And when the body doesn t have oxygen, it can t really defend itself.
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I mean, if you actually were to go in through the wall of a cell, go through the cytoplasm and find the little organelles floating around in there called the mitochondria, which there s probably a thousand or so per cell, 32 trillion cells.
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So it s estimated we have 110 trillion mitochondria.
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about 10% of your body weight are these little mitochondria.
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This is the true energy source for human beings.
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And when cells become metabolically sick, it usually begins in the mitochondria, including the genesis of cancer and forms of all kinds of different pathologies.
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So when the mitochondria does not have the right oxidative state, you have a 16-fold step down in its production of energy.
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And what happens when you take, you know, a 16-fold step down in the energetic state of a cell is now that cell can no longer eliminate waste, repair, detoxify, regenerate.
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And so you re becoming metabolically sick, mainly because of the deficiency in oxygen.
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It s not that linear, but that is the main component.
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And sedentary lifestyle means that we have prolonged periods of where our respiratory rate is very shallow.
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When our respiratory rate s very shallow, the majority of the air that we breathe in and out is high in carbon dioxide, it s expelled air.
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I mean, right now, every time you let out a breath, from the tip of your nose and the front of your lips, all the way down your esophagus, through the back of your pharynx, and all the way down and out to the bronchioles in your lungs, this is all expired air.
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So when you breathe in and out, if it s very shallow,
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You re breathing in that repetitively expired air and you re dropping that oxidative state in the blood.
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You re making the blood more acidic.
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You re making it more hospitable to disease, not alkaline and less hospitable and not full of oxygen, which is energetic.
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And so what are ways to get more oxygen?
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Obviously things like breath work, just simply moving your body.
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Give us one that, so I love what you re saying here because it s so fascinating to understand that the reason a shallow breath is reducing our lifespan is because of this idea of just how much can get stuck and lost in there.
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Changing in the gases.
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Yeah, and so what are some breathwork practices
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because I think what we don t realize today is with everyone dealing with anxiety, dealing with stress, dealing with pressure, we re all subconsciously breathing far more shallower, and we re breathing quicker, and you ve got these shorter, quicker breaths, and I think sometimes we re doing it without knowing at all.
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What are some great breathwork practices that you stand by that?
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So, you know, I don t have a breathwork practice that I take credit for.
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I use a Wim Hof style of breathwork.
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I mean, you could spend a lifetime going, and I encourage people to do so, I mean, a lifetime going down
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just the breathwork avenue.
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There s breathwork to wake up, there s breathwork to go to sleep.
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But I think it s important, you know, as a part of a really daily health practice, longevity practice.
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See, you re just taking a deep breath now.
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Now I m like, now I m like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The camera s suggesting, he s like.
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That s what I m saying, yeah, I m like, yeah, let s get really clear on this.
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Probably he s like, I m not dying anytime soon.
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Yeah, yeah, I m like, it s good, yeah.
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I m not going down.
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I hope everyone listening and watching is taking a breath right now too.
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Everyone s like, everyone s doing the same thing I m doing right now.
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They re doing it right now.
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Everyone s like counting how long their breath is right now.
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The truth is, you know, it s better to breathe deeper and longer and less frequently than it is to breathe more shallow and less frequently.
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In fact, Wim Hof in some of his teachings will do a very simple exercise where he ll say, I just want you to look down at your watch and I want you to count the number of times you breathe in and out in the next minute.
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And people will just, they don t know that they re actually being tripped.
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And what he s showing is that the majority of people are breathing 15, 18, sometimes 20 breaths in 60 seconds.
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And what this is showing you is if you re breathing that frequently, you re breathing that frequently because of the
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very little amount of oxygen that you re getting.
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And so you re breathing shallow and your body is trying to get more oxygen.
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Then he says, okay, count the number of breaths.
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In the next minute, I want you to only take four breaths for the entire minute, one every 15 seconds.
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And you re gonna breathe in.
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And you re gonna pause and you re gonna breathe out.
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And so essentially what he s trying to demonstrate is that in that same minute, four breaths actually was equivalent to 15 or 18 or 20 breaths in the same period of time, but they were four deep breaths.
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As we age, I read a statistic, I don t know if there s any valid science behind this or not, I actually got hassled online for repeating this, but I read a statistic that after age 30, less than 95% of people
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will ever sprint again.
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I don t know how much truth there is to that, but as I kind of just meander my way through the world, I have a tendency to think that it s fairly close.
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And if it s not 95% of people, maybe it s 70% of people.
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But after age 30, and this means that we re not using our auxiliary muscles of respiration, we re not using our inner costals, we re not using our diaphragm to massage our intestines, we re not correcting our posture and getting air down into the lobes of our lungs and out of the apex of our lungs.
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And so what Wim Hof talks about is I do three rounds of 30 breaths every morning, takes about eight minutes.
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That is the one thing that I do that I never, ever, ever, ever miss.
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Three rounds of 30 breaths that every minute you re only taking four breaths?
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No, so it s three rounds of 30 breaths.
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So the one minute of four breaths was just a way of showing you how you re actually hyperventilating yourself.
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You re actually, if you re taking 20 breaths in a minute or 15 breaths in a minute,
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Those are really short breaths, which means you re not drawing in a lot of oxygen.
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And you made it through the next minute breathing less than a quarter of the amount of time.
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And it just shows you that it s because during those 15 or 18 breaths, you use the apex of your lungs.
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During those four breaths, you use the lobes of your lungs, where two-thirds of the storage capacity is.
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And so it s just demonstrating the fact that getting oxygen deep into the lobes of our lungs and into our bloodstream is a very, very healthy thing.
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And it not only elevates your mood and your emotional state, but it is the antithesis of disease.
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It can actually even alkalize the blood.
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So I do three rounds of 30 breaths, obnoxiously deep breaths, and then exhale.
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And then on your 30th breath, you exhale and you hold.
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as long as you can.
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When you start, you might be holding your breath for 15 seconds, 20 seconds.
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After several months of doing it, because the oxygen tension will change, the storage capacity changes, you ll be up to, I m up to almost four minutes now.
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So I can hold my breath for four minutes between rounds.
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And you want on that exhale, you want to build carbon dioxide.
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That s the main vasodilator in the human body.
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It s not nitric oxide, it s carbon dioxide.
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The reason why we get vascular during exercise is because of the carbon dioxide traveling back to the lungs, not necessarily because of the pressure.
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So we want the carbon dioxide to build up.
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We want that vasodilation.
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And then post vasodilation, we take a nice obnoxiously deep breath in,
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We let that air out and we start again.
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It s like my coffee, my caffeine, my double espresso in the morning.
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I call it my drug of choice because my body craves it like a rat to cheese.
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So within 30 minutes of waking every day, I m finding a spot to do 30 minutes of breath work.
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And the great thing about it is number one, it s free.
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Number two, it s portable.
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You do it in a hotel.
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You just sound a little weird doing it in the hotel room or in airplane bathroom.
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You know, when I m on long flights, I go in the restroom and do it.
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God only knows what they think I m doing in there.
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Well, why weren t you doing your seat?
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Well, cause there s like everybody out there and I m like, I don t want to ring the flight attendant call button.
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But I was actually on a long flight from Dubai back to New York.
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And actually a few times ago when I was in LA, I went LA to Dubai on Emirates and they got a big bathroom in the front of the plane there.
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And I just went in there and had at it, you know.
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25 air squats, and then I would do 25 deep breaths, 25 air squats, 25 deep breaths.
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And I could see the looks on people s face when I came out of the bathroom.
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I m like, I feel great.
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And then every hour on the hour, I was going back in and doing the same thing.
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I know they were thinking, God, just give it a rest.
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Give it a break, guy.
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They need a gym on planes.
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We need to normalize gyms on planes.
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Somebody was actually talking to me about that.
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My friend Mikey Wang was talking to me about that the other day, how he wants to put gyms on planes.
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Take out the bar.
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Even if you just put like some TRX bands.
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or something, I can t imagine a squat rack with some free weights, but what a cool thing it would be if the business class section in the back, like in Emirates, it s a bar back there with a cool TV and lounge seats, but I d love for him to put some islets around and just throw up some TRX bands.
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I would be back there doing it.
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In fact, I had a whole group of people in the back of the planes, about 12 or 13 of us last time on my way to Dubai.
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And it convinced everybody to do breathwork.
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And we all sat in a big circle on the back of that Airbus and did breathwork for like 20 minutes.
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It was amazing.
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Gary, I wanna go back to something you said earlier.
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What s the relationship between mental health and vitamin deficiencies?
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Well, if you look at- I don t think this is talked about enough.
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I don t think it s talked about enough either.
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When we talk about mental health and lack of mental fitness, so many mental health disorders are, in my opinion, poorly understood.
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They are defined one way and treated a different way.
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I just had Dr. Palmer from,
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from Harvard on my podcast.
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It was fascinating how he was treating, and he s a board-certified psychiatrist, an MD, and a Harvard professor, and he s treating some of the most drug-resistant psychiatric illnesses.
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And I m talking about the most awful of psychiatric illnesses, you know, paranoid schizophrenia, the conditions where people are literally tortured inside their own head, voices, what have you.
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and they re drug resistant.
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And he treated them with supplements and ketogenic diets.
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And again, I m not trying to oversimplify mental health by any means and saying, if you re suffering from severe depression, just get on a ketogenic diet.
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That s not at all what I m saying.
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But if you look at the, if you keep digging in and you say, okay, what is a mood?
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What is an emotional state?
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These are collections of neurotransmitters.
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They re recipes, right?
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What is anxiety?
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It s an excess.
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It s an elevation of a category of neurotransmitters called catecholamines.
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So if catecholamines rise in your brain, you will feel fearful.
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You will actually feel the presence of a fear without the presence of a fear.
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And when we understand that the brain can play tricks on us because it truly doesn t know the difference between perception and reality.
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You know, I use the example that if you drove home tonight and you got out of your car and somebody was standing in front of you with a knife, very real fear, right?
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You would begin to have a fight or flight response.
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Pupils would dilate, heart rate would increase, your extremities would flood with blood.
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But you could also be in your place here, and we re very high on the mountain in LA, and you could be laying in your bed tonight, and you could start thinking about getting eaten by a shark.
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You know that the chances of a shark getting out of the Pacific Ocean and making it up there, even if he had an Uber, are virtually zero, but you could have the exact same reaction.
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How is it that I can have the same reaction to the presence of a real fear as an entirely imagined fear?
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Because at their core, at the hub, where all these spokes meet, it s the same thing.
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It s a rise in catecholamines.
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So if we know fear can be born from a rise in catecholamines, then we know anxiety and anxiousness can be from a rise in catecholamines.
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This is why so many people that have anxiety or experience anxiousness,
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very often will say, I ve had it on and off throughout my entire lifetime, and I cannot point to the specific trigger that causes it.
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They could be sitting on a podcast like we are right now, very calm, their staff around, nothing to be afraid of, and all of a sudden become overwhelmed with anxiety.
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And then we take it a step further and we say, well, where are these neurotransmitters come from?
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How do we make neurotransmitters?
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Well, the majority of these are made in the gut.
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Serotonin, for example, is methylated in the gut.
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We take a simple amino acid called tryptophan, we methylate it into the neurotransmitter serotonin, it travels up the vagus nerve and it creates a mood.
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We take phenylalanine and tyrosine and we turn those into dopamine, the main driver of behavior.
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So if we know that mood and behavior,
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driven by neurotransmitters that are derived from amino acids, then why isn t it possible that deficiencies in amino acids could give rise to deficiencies in neurotransmitters, which could then be interpreted as a mental illness?
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And again, I m not trying to oversimplify mental illness by any means.
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I believe in therapy.
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I also believe that, you know, meds do work in many cases, but, you know,
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Why wouldn t we start first?
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If we define, for example, depression as an inadequate supply of serotonin, then why are we not trying to raise the level of serotonin?
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If we define some addictive tendencies as an inadequate supply of dopamine, the absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction.
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One of the reasons why addiction has a tendency to shift is because we never treat the dopamine deficiency, we only treat the physical addiction, right?
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So these are why drug addicts become alcoholics, alcoholics become,
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Workoutaholics, workoutaholics become workaholics.
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You know, you shift one addiction for another because that deficiency in dopamine drives you to want to feel normal.
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And this is where I believe most addiction starts is the search for normalcy, not the search for a high, right?
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I don t believe that most addicts woke up one day and said, I want to get really banged up.
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They woke up one day and said, I want to feel normal.
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Yeah, or numb.
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Or numb.
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Numb, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And in this search for that numbness or the search for that normalcy, whether it was alcohol or nicotine or permiscuity or what have you, they felt that either that numbness or that sense of normalcy.
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And then the addiction grew from that.
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And so they were then running from a low, not running towards a high.
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And this is one of the reasons why I have so much empathy for people that are trapped in the cycle of addiction.
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And I think that more addictive therapy needs to address these dopamine deficiencies.
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But now we re getting down to the possibility that nutrient deficiencies could give rise to neurotransmitter deficiencies that could give rise to
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states of mental instability.
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And then we label this mental illness.
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You have ADD, ADHD, you have OCD, you have manic depression, you have bipolar, you have schizophrenia, you have generalized anxiety, you have generalized depression, which I personally think are nonsense.
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Again, I m not attacking their mental health profession.
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When you deprive the human body of certain raw materials, you get the expression of disease.
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And we accept this in so many different areas of medicine, but we don t really accept it in mental illness, right?
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I mean, how is a leading PhD from Harvard having success treating drug-resistant mental illness with diet?
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because it s not the diets, the nutrients that they were deficient in.
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And how is it that people that experience high rates of anxiety and anxiousness and attention deficit disorder or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder can sometimes do something as simple as take a methylated multivitamin?
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and experience a dramatic reduction in their symptoms because nutrients matter.
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The human body is such a fascinating machine.
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The more you study human physiology, the more you believe in God because
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There s no way that this was just assembled by accident or by chance over time, right?
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I don t care how much time you give two bacteria in a mud puddle, you re never gonna get a human being out of it.
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And the intelligence with which it s designed, how one raw material enters a cycle,
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it gets used, it creates waste and then that waste is accepted and taken into another cycle and it s utilized and it s like one man s trash is another man s treasure and cellular metabolism is so fascinating because one amino acid enters a cycle and it gets converted into something completely different, homocysteine gets metabolized into methionine, homocysteine then
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can be one of the most inflammatory compounds in the human body.
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This gets metabolized into methionine, which then goes up into the mind and quiets the mind by dismantling, by essentially down-regulating catecholamines, these fight-or-flight neurotransmitters.
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So it puts people into a calm state of being calm.
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So then you start to understand, well, the majority of people that have sleep disturbance have one or two types of sleep patterns.
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They are either lay down to go to sleep, body tired,
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and they are mind awake.
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So when their environment quiets, their mind wakes up.
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Why does the mind wake up when the environment quiets?
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Because you have excess catecholamines in the brain.
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There s a gene mutation called COMT, C-O-M-T, catechol-O-methyltransferase.
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It s a fancy way of saying the gene that codes for the enzyme that breaks down this class of neurotransmitters, that down-regulates them.
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Well, let s say that this gene mutation, you have this and you have an impaired ability to downregulate catecholamines.
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That doesn t sound like a big deal until you realize that catecholamines create a wakened state in the brain.
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And so this wakened state usually happens at night and somebody will lay there and they will just think about the most innocuous little thoughts while they are exhausted.
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They re just like, did I get everything on my grocery list?
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Did my belt match my shoes?
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We changed the Juni label to fuchsia from dark blue, you know?
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And you re like, why am I thinking about this at 2.30 in the morning, right?
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Or you get up to use the restroom and you go back to bed and you lay there and your mind s awake.
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And so you don t have a sleep disorder.
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You don t have a mental disorder.
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You don t have generalized anxiety.
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You don t have a mood disorder.
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You have exercise.
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catecholamines in the brain.
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And very often these can be downregulated very simply with complexes of B vitamins, methylated B12, methylfolate, the raw material that the body needs to downregulate these.
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And by not giving the body the raw material, we get this expression of disease and then we say this person has this condition.
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You know, I tell the same story all the time a lot about when I was in grad school and I took these plant botany courses, which I didn t like to take because I wanted to get a human biology degree and I had to study algae.
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It wasn t super interesting to me.
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That s what was so interesting about biology growing up.
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I remember there s so many subjects now where I m like,
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If I knew that neuroscience was a part of, you know, looking at biology and so many other things, I would have been fascinated by it.
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Right, right, exactly.
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But if you were learning about plant biology, I didn t care.
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Yeah, me too.
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I really could have cared less about plant biology.
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But, and then, you know, then you have to decide, rock stratas and, you know, fossil lineages and all this other kind of stuff.
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And I m like, who makes a career out of this?
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I know, I know, literally.
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But you can actually get a degree in traffic management too.
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So I guess that, I d rather study rocks than traffic.
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No offense to the traffic experts out there.
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You guys are killing it.
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But you know, when you start to realize that.
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I m just gonna laugh at you.
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I hope we cut that out.
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They re gonna be like, what an asshole.
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Just lost half your audience right there.
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Like, don t offend the traffic guys, dude.
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Somebody s gotta figure out when these lights go on and off.
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God, sorry.
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I m just having a good time.
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I m having a good time too, but I don t know how we got down that road.
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But in any case, when you re studying plants,
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All right, I gotta go.
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I don t know why that s so funny.
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Hopefully your listeners think it s so funny, but when you re studying plants- We ll cut it.
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We ll cut it.
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Maybe we should leave it in, actually.
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I kind of like it.
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You don t think you have a lot of traffic experts that listen to the podcast?
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No, I don t think so.
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No, probably a very low.
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You probably lose two followers on that one.
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It s worth it.
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You know, if you have a leaf that s rotting in the top of your palm tree,
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and you call a true arborist, a true botanist out to your house, they ll look at that leaf and they won t touch the leaf.
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They won t even touch the tree, they ll cortex the soil.
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And they ll say, you know what, Jay, there s no nitrogen in this soil.
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And they ll add nitrogen to the soil and the leaf will heal.
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We stopped thinking about human beings this way.
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We go very quickly to chemicals and synthetics, pharmaceuticals, as a way to solve potential nutrient deficiencies in the human body.
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And we re fascinating machines like plants.
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And when, if you didn t add nitrogen to that soil, all of the things that were good for that plant, um, would have done nothing, right?
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You re like, well, maybe we should water it.
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Water s great for plants.
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When you put water on there and nothing happens.
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Maybe we should add sulfur.
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Sulfur is great for plants.
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And you, and you put sulfur, you put peat moss on there and you re like, peat moss is great for plants.
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And this happens in human beings too.
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We don t get data, so we actually never find the nitrogen.
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We never find the raw material that s actually missing, that s causing the expression of disease.
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And this is how most people wander their way through their supplement routine.
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They get lost in the myriad of great supplements.
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And they start supplementing for the sake of supplementing.
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Well, is NMN good?
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Yeah, it s great.
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It raises NAD levels.
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Is resveratrol good?
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Yeah, it can lengthen telomeres.
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Is St.
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John s wort good?
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Is ashwagandha good?
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Is supplemental good?
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Should I take CoQ10?
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I mean, you could make an argument for all of these different things that we could supplement with.
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But like the missing raw material, like the missing nitrogen in the soil, if you don t find the deficiency, none of that matters.
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And that s why I tell people that they should get data on their body.
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You know, there s 74 biomarkers that I look at in the blood, they re right up on my Instagram.
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If anybody wants to take those biomarkers off my Instagram, take them to your doctor,
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your healthcare practitioner and say, hey, will you look at these in my blood and have your doctor interpret those?
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That s a great place to start.
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I put the genes that I think are the most impactful for mental health and for gut health and for mood and for anxiety and for quieting the mind and for the research that I ve been able to uncover on ADD and ADHD and poor sleep, poor focus and concentration.
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And you can take those five genes and you can find a genetic methylation
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counselor or find a place to get a genetic methylation test and get data so that you go, you know, like you were telling me, but when we sat down before the podcast, you were telling me where you go to get your blood work done.
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That s great because you re getting data.
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You re not just aimlessly wandering around going,
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I don t know if I feel good, I don t know if I feel normal, I don t know if I could feel better, I don t know if maybe some of the little nagging things that are going on in my life, and I don t know if you have any, but.
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Of course, always.
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Yeah, I mean, I m not sleeping as good as I could, and I ve been working out, and I don t have a response to exercise like I wanted, I feel like my focus is off, you know, my waking energy is a little off.
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I was gonna ask you actually about that, because I think a lot of people,
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feel, and I want to talk about some of the symptoms that I hear from our community, our audience, what people feel, and to get your take on how to combat that.
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So one of the biggest things I hear from people is, gee, I m just feeling brain fog, right?
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I m just feeling like I have no clarity, like I struggle to make decisions, I m feeling a sense of low energy, and so like I m lethargic, like these are very common things.
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So with brain fog, what s going on there?
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Well, I mean, everything that you feel about energy, like when you say I don t have, I m low on energy, physiologically what you re saying is I m low on oxygen in my blood.
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Because everything that you perceive about energy is nothing more than oxygen in your blood.
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So if oxygen equals energy, which it does, then if I wanna raise your energy level, I need to improve the oxidative state.
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And how do I do that?
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Well, one of the ways, and I m not saying this is the only way, but one of the physiologic pathways is,
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If we know energy equals oxygen, then we take it a step further and we say, well, what carries oxygen around the human body?
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Well, red blood cell carries oxygen inside of a fluid, and I m simplifying for you ultra work biohackers, but the red blood cell carries oxygen inside of a fluid called hemoglobin.
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So if I m low on red blood cells,
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I m low on vehicles to carry oxygen.
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If those red blood cells are further deficient in hemoglobin, then the few cells that I have that are able to carry oxygen have less fluid to carry oxygen, therefore I m hypoxic and it hides in plain sight.
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So then the question becomes, where are red blood cells and hemoglobin made?
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Well, they re made in the bone marrow.
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So how do I get the bone marrow to make more red blood cells and hemoglobin?
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I go to the bone marrow s boss, which is the hormone testosterone.
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In men and women, one of the roles of testosterone is erythropoiesis, to put pressure on the bone marrow to make new red blood cells.
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And in nearly every case where we see clinically deficient levels of this hormone, testosterone-free testosterone, we see red blood cells and hemoglobin towards the low end of the range.
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And then you look at, well, what is testosterone made from?
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Well, I mean, it s made from several things, but largely from DHEA.
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So if I m a deficient in DHEA, I should get that fixed.
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And what is the next macronutrient below DHEA, vitamin D3?
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So you go oxygen, red blood cells, bone marrow, hormone testosterone, DHEA, D3.
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So if you start in the root and you raise your D3 level to the optimal functional range, which I think most practitioners would agree is between 60 and 80,
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And then you raise your DHEA into the optimal range and you wait to see if your hormones respond.
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And if your testosterone rises, especially your free testosterone rises, your red blood cell count and hemoglobin will go up.
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As your red blood cell count and hemoglobin level rise, the amount of oxygen that you transport in your blood will rise and you will perceive that as more energy.
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you will perceive that as improved focus and concentration and your sleep will deepen.
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Why?
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Because in low respiratory states, when our respiratory rate gets very shallow, we want our blood to be very good at carrying oxygen.
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Because if you re already poorly transporting oxygen and then you try to get into a deep sleep and your respiratory rate drops and you get to where you are hypoxic, your brain will wake you up.
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It will wake you up by pulsing cortisol.
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And so people that are exhausted sleep the worst.
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And ask a physician sometime, why is it that people that are the most exhausted sleep the worst?
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They very rarely connect the fact that they re low on oxygen, which is why they re tired and have brain fog, and they re low on oxygen, which is why they re not sleeping, because their brain is waking them up.
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And then they do the worst thing.
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They go to their doctor and they go, I can t sleep.
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And so then the doctor suggests something like a zolpidem nitrate, diazepam, you know, um, the Nesta Ambien.
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And essentially they tranquilize you.
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And, and what s happening when you take a lot of these sleep medications, not all of them, but when you take a lot of these sleep medications is you re in a low oxidative state.
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So your brain s trying to save your life and wake you up.
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Then you take a sleep medication and you block the brain s view of blood oxygen.
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So now the brain can t, isn t able to try to save your life and wake you up.
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And so now you get into a deep sleep and you wake up the next morning, you go, man, I hate taking Tylenol PM because it is.
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I am so groggy.
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It s still in my system the next morning.
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That s actually not true.
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That drug s been out of your system for hours.
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You are feeling the effects of having suffocated for six hours.
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And so suffocating yourself to sleep, and then now you ve slept, but you get up from the sleep medication, and you are still exhausted, and you still have brain fog.
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So there are other potential causes, but that is the one.
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The one nice thing about the clinics that we have is we see 20,000 new gene test patients a month.
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We see thousands of new blood test patients a month.
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So we do have voluminous pools of data.
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And some might say, well, it s never been put through a randomized clinical trial, and it s anecdotal, but it s actually not anecdotal.
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When you see
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Pools of data as large as we see them, you know, you can say, listen, if you have, if you are clinically deficient in free testosterone, you are very likely to have low red blood cell count.
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The reason why people feel so good when they get on hormones or when they supplement and their hormones return to the normal range is because the effect of those hormones returning to the normal range reoxidizes the blood, for lack of better words.
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Brain fog is...
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has to do with access.
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You know, it s like in the disease Alzheimer s, you know, it s not so much that people are losing their memory, it s that they re losing access to their memory, right?
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And in the early stages, access can be restored.
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There s a significant difference between the memory actually fading, which it does in the later stages, and access to the memory fading.
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So the oxidative state of the body is very important, which is why I think people really need to get data.
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If your hormones are in the optimal range, you re not nutrient deficient, you re not insulin resistant.
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I m not saying that your blood labs need to be perfect, but by dialing in a few markers in your hormone levels and your nutrient levels, you can live a dramatically different life.
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And in the majority of cases, probably 70% of the cases, people that qualify to be on hormone therapy don t even need hormones.
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They need the nutrients to make hormones.
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And that to me is really exciting.
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I mean, I could just be deficient in something like DHEA, like D3.
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I could have an elevated protein like SHBG and I could take something simple like boron and lower that and raise my hormones and feel a lot better, yes.
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I m not saying that you have to go and get hormone injections by any means.
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But I am saying that you need to get data on the deficiency so that you can drive a state of being optimal.
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Because so many people that I work with will call me like, you know, weeks into our journey and say, oh my God, Gary, I feel amazing.
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Including like Dana White.
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And I m like, you know, you really don t feel amazing.
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They re like, what?
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They say, you feel normal, right?
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That s how normal is supposed to feel.
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You re really supposed to feel that good, right?
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We re not used to that though.
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We re not used to that.
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Yeah.
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I was going to ask you, what does it feel like?
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Have you worked in your clinics with women preparing to give birth and then post giving birth?
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Yes, quite a bit.
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In fact, our clinic director is a board certified OBGYN.
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She s a gynecological surgeon.
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She s got a double master s.
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Because I feel like that journey, we still don t talk enough about how challenging it is on the human biology.
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Oh, yeah, it s very challenging.
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I mean, if you look at a woman s, you know, what happens during a woman s menstrual cycle, and you look at what happens when she becomes pregnant,
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It s perfectly normal during regular cyclical periods of her cycle for her estrogen to be as high as, you know, in the 400s, perfectly normal for it to be in the teens.
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So it has a very large frequency, you know, rise and fall depending on where she is in the cycle.
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As soon as she becomes pregnant, you know, estrogen goes into the 4000s.
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mainly because one of estrogen s primary role is to retain water, to pad the uterus and protect the fetus, has other roles, but it retains water.
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But postpartum, you don t wanna be estrogen dominant.
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And it s not necessarily, for women especially, the level of hormone, it is the ratio of hormones in their body.
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And Dr. Sardis, who s our OB-GYN,
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phenomenal about pre- and postpartum care.
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She s an enormous believer that certain gene mutations like MTHFR, which increase the frequency of miscarriage, she delivered 9,000 babies, so she s very qualified to speak on that, that the gene mutation that is one of the most common gene mutations in the world, the MTHFR.
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What does it do?
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It stands for methylene tetrahydrofolate reductase.
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It is the gene that codes for the conversion of folic acid and its derivatives, like folate, into the usable form called methylfolate.
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And this is what I mean.
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We have a process in the body called methylation, which is where we take one raw material,
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which is useless, folic acid for example, entirely useless in human body.
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Folic acid does not prevent neural tube defects, it doesn t prevent anything until it is converted into methylfolate.
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So what if your body can t make this conversion?
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Well, it might not sound like a big deal until you realize that number one, it s the most common gene mutation in the world.
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And number two, folic acid is the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet in the United States.
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So if you have an issue converting the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet into the form that your body can use, you have a significant deficiency.
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And the expression of this deficiency is increase in the number of miscarriages.
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Infertility, a difficulty in getting pregnant, I m just talking about in the female cycle.
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Postpartum depression, which can actually begin before the pregnancy ends.
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We call it postpartum depression but very often it begins during the pregnancy.
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And women that have this MTHFR gene mutation, the first thing they re told when they get pregnant by their OBGYN is to take high doses of folic acid.
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Well if you put 1400 or 1800% of the daily allowance of folic acid into a woman like that,
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who has that gene mutation and cannot process it.
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That is a disaster.
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And she develops postpartum depression before the pregnancy ends.
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And eventually when the pregnancy ends, she stops taking the prenatal vitamin and the symptoms go away.
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And so she blames it on the pregnancy, not on the vitamin.
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And this is another pandemic that we see is that pregnant women, all of them could use methylfolate.
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Less than 60% of them can use
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folic acid.
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So why don t we just give women methyl folate?
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Why don t we actually just give them the form that their body can use?
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By the way, folic acid also is a man-made chemical.
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You can t find folic acid anywhere on the surface of the earth.
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It does not occur naturally in nature.
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So someone convince me how a synthetic chemical that we make in a laboratory is somehow necessary for optimal health.
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Yeah, it s bizarre, isn t it?
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It can t be.
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It wasn t even around, I don t think, until 1993 or so.
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What did we do before that?
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Just suffer?
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So I m a huge believer that getting back to the basics is really the gateway to optimal health.
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How do you know if you have that mutation and what do you do?
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You do a genetic cheek swab.
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So there s a cheek swab test, you swab your cheek, you usually put it in a test tube, you send it to the lab and they ll send you back the results.
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Even 23andMe, I do genetic tests at 10X Health.
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You do not have to do the test through me, but we do 20,000 of these a month.
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I m sure 23andMe does something similar to that.
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But you also get a lot, depending on the type of genetic test you do, you ll get a lot of the non-actionable data, right?
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I mean, like, if I pulled your entire genetic code, I could see that you have dark olive skin, you have green eyes, you have brown hair, you have detached ear lobes, but there s nothing you can do with that genetic information.
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You want to look at the genes responsible for converting raw material
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vitamins, minerals, amino acids into the usable form.
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I always use the analogy that we pull crude oil out of the ground, right?
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But you cannot put crude oil into your gas tank.
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The car doesn t understand that fuel source.
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Crude oil has to be refined into gasoline.
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Now the car can run.
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Human beings are no different.
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We put vitamins, minerals, amino acids, nutrients, proteins into the body, which are useless in that state until they are converted into the gasoline, into the form that the body can use.
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And this is governed by several of our genes.
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And they re very easy to look at.
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And you only do that test once in your lifetime.
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That s fantastic.
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Thank you for that.
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I think that s going to help a lot of people listening and watching because I feel like when we re thinking about people are planning for kids or have had kids and they re struggling.
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And again, I think we all do this.
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And that s why I m so glad we re talking about this because I think the first thing we blame is our mind.
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That s the first thing we all do is we judge ourselves and we go, I m not strong enough.
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I m too weak.
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I m mentally not there.
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I m not figuring it out.
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There s something wrong with me.
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Right.
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But we re not looking at the fact that let me actually take a look at what is wrong and which part of it and where has it gone wrong.
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Yeah, you know what I think we try to do, I mean just naturally, instinctively, is when we don t feel good or something seems to be going wrong in our bodies, we re anxious, we re worried, we re depressed, or there s something more physical, we re bloated, we re constipated, we re irritable, we got cramps, we re fatigued, we begin to look at our outside environment.
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We look at what s called a cluster of symptoms, and a cluster of symptoms is very often nonsense.
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We diagnosed Abraham Lincoln with a depression 150 years ago with a cluster of symptoms.
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We did the same kind of diagnostic.
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We use similar diagnostic tools today.
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What if you consider that it s not something happening to you, it s something happening within you?
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Like that leaf that was rotting in the palm tree,
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nothing happened to it.
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Something happened within the soil that then caused something to happen within the tree, which translated to that leaf.
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And I always use that example because it starts people thinking that, you know what, maybe I m not as sick or pathological or diseased or mentally ill as I think.
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You know, people very often that suffer from gut issues.
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I mean, we see this thousands and thousands of times.
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So they re like, they get gas or bloating or diarrhea or constipation or irritability or cramping.
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and they are always trying to relate it to what they last ate.
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Because that makes sense, right?
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I ate something and now I blew up like a tick.
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It must have been what I ate.
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But you may not be considering that if you re deficient in methylfolate, for example, very simple nutrient.
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that the peristaltic activity of the gut is off, so the pace of the gut is off.
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You can think of the human intestinal tract as a 30-foot long conveyor belt.
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You put contents on it at one end and as it traverses to the other end from the stomach to the rectum, there s a very specific sequence of events that needs to occur.
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There s acidic bacteria in the proximal end of the small intestine, there s alkaline bacteria in the distal end near the rectum.
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What if you just changed the pace of that conveyor belt?
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What if you went into any factory in America that works on a conveyor belt system and doubled the speed of the conveyor belt?
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The whole line would break down.
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What if you went into any factory in America and reversed the speed of the conveyor belt?
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The whole line would break down.
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But there s nothing wrong with a conveyor belt.
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And so, you know, it sends people down the wrong road because they re like, well, should I get my gut bacteria checked?
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Should I get my gut biome looked at?
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Should I start taking probiotics?
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Should I maybe take, you know, antibiotics and maybe may I have SIBO?
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Should I change up my diet?
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And nothing really seems to work.
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because they think it s something happening to them rather than something happening within them.
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And this happens very often with anxiety, with, you know, people that suffer from anxiety generally have the same three characteristics.
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Generally, if you ll ask them, have you had it on and off throughout your entire lifetime?
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They ll say, yes.
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Can you point to the specific, the trigger that causes it?
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No.
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Have any anxiety medications helped you?
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No, they just make me feel like a zombie.
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Those are very commonly the same sequence of answers.
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So that is not something happening to you.
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That s something happening within you.
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If I ask you if you have anxiety and you go, yes, I m afraid of heights and every time I walk to the edge of a 30th floor balcony, I freak out.
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Yes, I m claustrophobic.
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When I step on a crowded elevator, I really get anxious.
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But if you say, yes, okay, well, what causes it?
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I don t know.
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What makes it come and go?
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pretty much anything.
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Have you had it on and off throughout your lifetime?
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Yes.
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Then this is a sign that this is a genetic mutation that s led to a deficiency that s causing the expression of that condition.
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We very rarely pass disease from generation to generation.
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We do pass deficiency.
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We pass these genes that
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are either broken or operating, and when they re broken, for lack of better words, these gene snibs, the body has an inability to convert a certain raw material into the usable form, which means that this deficiency is passed from generation to generation, right?
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So a deficiency in the ability to downregulate homocysteine means that you get the expression of hypertension.
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So you see that hypertension runs in these families, even though there s not a hypertension gene.
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you see that the inability to convert thyroid hormone T4 into thyroid hormone T3, which is a deiodinization process in the liver and the gut and the periphery, that this process is impaired.
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So people have hypothyroid, but the hypothyroid runs in families, but there s no specific hypothyroid gene.
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And you could go through dozens and dozens and dozens
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cases like this.
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We accept that things are inherited or familial because they run in our family, not because we consider that the deficiency may run in our family and the deficiency can be fixed.
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Two more things I want to ask you, Gary.
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I want to get your thoughts on this.
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Tap water.
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What is wrong with tap water and what is wrong with plastic bottles?
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We ll start with tap water.
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I mean, there are two or three things that I think that everybody should get out of their life, permanently out of their life.
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Tap water is definitely one of them.
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And the reason for this is that it contains high amounts of fluoride, contains high amounts of chlorine.
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It also contains microplastics.
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Very often now it contains high levels of glyphosates and even pharmaceuticals, which are very hard to filter out of the water.
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And, you know, we have to decide if we want to filter things before they get to the temple.
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Or the temple s doing the filtering.
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Let the temple be the filter.
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And what s astounding to me is if you ask just about anyone, what s the most important thing to you, your business or your health?
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They ll always say their health.
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What s more important to you, money or your health?
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It s always their health.
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But when you just take one step further,
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And I do this with entrepreneurs all the time.
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I was actually at a, uh, uh, an event this week with, uh, Damon John and, and it was high level Tuesday night, but yeah, I was going to be there.
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I was traveling.
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Yeah.
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And this isn t to pick on Damon.
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He s a very good friend of mine.
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I love Damon.
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He s done a lot for me and he s, um, and he s just an incredible entrepreneur and, uh, he s been a very, very good friend to me, but we were, um, in a room with, um, you know, entrepreneurs,
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And if you went around that room and we asked several of them, what s more important to you, your business or your health?
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And they d say, my health.
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But then you bring them up and you say, well, you know, how much money did your business make last month?
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What was your net income?
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How many employees do you have?
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What s your hemoglobin A1C?
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Like, right, what is your, what are your testosterone levels like?
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Right, so we, our intention is to put our health first, but our activity is very different, right?
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And I could have asked them 15 more questions about their income statement, their balance sheet, their P and L, the best marketing strategy, where they re getting the ROI, what their, you know, what their best return is on Facebook ads or
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any number of other things, and they would have hit every one of those metrics, don t know if they have a clinical deficiency in vitamin D3 or not.
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They don t even have the most basic of information.
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And so this goes back to, we need to put an imaginary fence around ourselves and start filtering things before they make it to the temple, just consciously being intentional about what we re letting into the temple.
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It s very easy for me to look at food and say, are you going to serve me?
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or are you going to steal from me?
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Because if you re going to steal from me, I m not going to let you into the temple.
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You wouldn t knowingly let a thief into your house, right?
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And so tap water is one of these things.
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You know, there are fluoride, which we know is neurotoxic.
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And if you don t believe fluoride is neurotoxic, just find a, you know, just find a, you know, a fluoride toothpaste label in your house.
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If you re using Crest or Colgate,
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or any toothpaste with fluoride and flip it over and look at the back because there s a required FDA warning on there and it says if more than an amount used for brushing is swallowed contact poison control immediately.
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It also says keep out of reach of children under six years of age and it also says do not use more than a pea-sized amount.
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So if you swallow more than a pea-sized amount of fluoride toothpaste you are supposed to contact poison control immediately.
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you will get four times that amount of fluoride in six, eight-ounce glasses of water.
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So, why wouldn t I call poison control at the end of every day when I m drinking six, eight-ounce glasses of water?
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According to the previous disclosure, I should call poison control at the end of every day and let them know I ve been micro-poisoned.
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There is an interesting...
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a study that was published by the National Toxicology Program in March of 2023.
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And they were able to pull this data from the CDC through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.
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And what it found was in 52 of the 54 studies that they reviewed,
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And in nearly every municipality in America that had fluoridated water, they found an inverse relationship between IQ and fluoride.
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So in other words, as fluoride went up, IQ went down.
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So the more fluoride in the water, the lower the prepubescent IQ.
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And if that s not enough data, we have to ask ourselves, where does fluoride come from?
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Well, fluoride is fluorosilicic acid.
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Fluorosilicic acid is a byproduct of phosphate fertilizer production.
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It s also a byproduct of aluminum production.
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But the majority of the fluoride that we use in municipal water supplies comes from phosphate fertilizer production.
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It is the waste.
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from phosphate fertilizer production because if we leave it in phosphate fertilizer, it burns the root of the plant.
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So we can t keep it in because it kills the plant.
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So we take it out and we have a big stockpile of fluorosilicic acid.
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So what are we going to do with it?
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Well, let s dump it into the municipal water supply because there is marginal
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and I would call it weak, evidence that we can remineralize the enamel with fluoride and stop tooth decay, which you can also do with hydroxyapatite and other things that are safe.
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And so we dump this into the water supply, but now the evidence is clear that this neurotoxin in small doses over time, it s not the dosage determining the poison, it is the cumulative dosage determining the poison.
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And one of the challenges that I find with a lot of governmental regulatory guidelines is that there are safe levels of mercury, right?
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There are safe levels of fluoride, there are safe levels of cyanide.
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But our bodies clear these at different levels.
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Nobody got mercury poisoning from one piece of tuna fish, right?
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They got mercury poisoning because they ate, you know, small doses of mercury over a prolonged period of time.
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So fluoride is one of those things.
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Tap water is definitely one of those things to permanently get out of your life.
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I use something called an echo water filter.
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And it s a four-stage RO filter and then it actually adds hydrogen to the water on the way out.
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And because the water is demineralized, I just remineralize it with a salt called Baja gold salt.
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But you could also use Celtic sea salt.
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I like this Baja gold because it has all 91 trace minerals and they test it for microplastics and whatnot.
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But just about every grocery store chain in the world has Celtic salt.
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So you get four-stage RO filter your water, add Celtic or Baja Gold sea salt to your water to remineralize it, and you re covering the basis of not missing one of the 91 nutrients, 16 of which are essential for human function.
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Amazing, what a great answer.
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I m hoping no one, please stop drinking tap water.
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Yeah, yeah, please.
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It is the worst thing in the world for it.
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Daily call to the, you know.
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Yeah, daily call to poison control.
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Yeah, poison control.
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I mean, that is like, you know, you just think about just these things that we re so conditioned to do on a daily basis.
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And we re like, ah, this doesn t matter.
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I don t feel any different.
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And then it just adds up and accumulates.
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Why would I want to put something into my mouth consciously that if I swallow it, I have to call it poison control center.
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And then you think, well, how much is being absorbed in my gums?
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How much, you know, the thinnest skin in your body is on the floor of your mouth and it is fraught with blood vessels.
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One of the best delivery mechanisms besides the, you know, oral, the first best metabolism is sublingual.
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So now I m drinking tap water all day and then I m sublingually.
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And then the second thing that s in there is chlorine.
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And I did a really interesting video on my Instagram the other day and people, it really made an impact, a ripple effect.
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I went to the faucet and I filled up two glasses with tap water, clear glasses of tap water and just set them on my counter and I had my,
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One of my heads of production just take four fingers and hold them down in one of the glasses.
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And he held them there for about a minute.
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And he took his fingers out.
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And by the way, you can do this.
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The kit to do this, you can order on Amazon for six bucks.
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And then I took a chlorine testing kit and I put drops of chlorine in one glass and I put drops or drops of the chlorine tester in the other glass.
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One of them tested very high for chlorine.
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One of them tested as having no chlorine.
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And so the question is, where did the chlorine go?
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Well, it was absorbed into a skin in just that 60 second period.
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And so that s how good that transdermal, it will absorb that chlorine.
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And you can do that.
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You can get a chlorine testing kit for about six bucks on Amazon.
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Just try it.
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Take your tap water.
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You ll never drink it again.
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Take two glasses of tap water, fill it up, put it on your counter, put your fingers down in one glass of tap water for 60 seconds, take them out and test both for chlorine.
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You ll find whatever glass you put your,
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fingers and tests for no chlorine.
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Now imagine that s fluoride, microplastics and other things.
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And you know, when we talk about plastic bottles and microplastics, you know, BPAs, the bisphenols, these BPAs were until the 60s, they were used as a synthetic estrogen.
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So it was used in female hormone therapy, labor induction and other forms of female hormone therapy.
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how some scientists with way too much time on his hands realized that if you actually mix a petroleum-based product with this synthetic estrogen, this bisphenol, this BPA, that you ll make the surface of the plastic more viscous, and therefore, you know, like oils and waters and fluids and things won t stick to it.
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How they figured that out, I m not sure, I m not sure how that combination occurred, but make no mistakes, the BPAs are synthetic estrogens, and there s,
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Some indications that there is enough BPA inside of the lining of a non-BPA-free can of like tomato paste, for example, which acidic foods leach it out, heat leaches it out, to actually shift a woman s menstrual cycle.
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So from ovulation to utile or follicular to ovulation.
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So imagine that you could actually just be eating a food with enough bisphenols in it that
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not disclosed on the label that you don t know are in there because it s leaching from the plastic to actually shift your menstrual cycle.
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That is astounding to me.
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And so, yeah, plastic.
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Plastic bottles is one that I would try to get out as much as you can too.
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Gary, I love, we ve covered so much great ground today that we ve never covered on the show before.
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So I want to say a big thank you to you because there are so many things that I know that everyone s going to be listening.
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There s so many actionable things I know that people can practice straight after this episode.
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We end every episode of On Purpose with a final five.
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And these questions have to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum.
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Wow.
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So, Gary Brackett, these are your final five.
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Why didn t you tell me about this so I could have had like a really cool answer?
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So, question one, what is the best advice you ve ever heard or received?
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The best advice I ve ever heard or received is if you want to shrink your problems, grow your purpose.
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Beautiful.
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Very aligned, second question.
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Next time you come on the show, we re gonna talk about that, because you have to come back, this is amazing.
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Second question, what is the worst advice you ve ever heard or received?
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You re perfect the way you are.
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Question number three, what is something that you used to value, but you don t anymore?
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Wealth.
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Question number four, how would you define your current purpose in life?
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I would define it as God-given.
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And fifth and final, if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be?
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To pause before you speak.
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That s great.
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Gary Brekker, everyone.
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Gary, thank you so much.
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Super welcome.
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I really enjoyed this.
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You are fantastic at what you do, and I m so grateful to spend time with you, man.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, brother.
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