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 you know, where we want to be yet, but at least we're not who we used to be.
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I think that's such a beautiful prayer and such a beautiful affirmation in connecting us with God.
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I loved what you said earlier.
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I want to go back to it.
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You said that the opposite of addiction is connection.
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 Thought that was so powerful.
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I mean, that in and of itself is such a, what are some of the deepest ways you choose to connect with people now?
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Obviously it's service, obviously it's helping them, but if someone wants to deepen their connection with someone, what should they be doing?
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 I think be more present.
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Priscilla used to struggle with that, as we know.
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Priscilla's laughing.
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But I think she's seen improvements.
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I love what you say about the cell phone before you go to bed at night.
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I've been getting better at it.
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Because that just doesn't work.
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You just have to, if you're struggling yourself with something, the quickest way to get out of your own head is to be of service to somebody else.
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They don't need to be struggling with drugs, alcohol.
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It could be a health issue, family issue, friend problem, job problem.
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 And I just think when you're there on that moment and you're there without looking for a payoff, but just to be a good, kind, caring human being, you know, you will help that other individual a hundred percent because they're going to feel that energy.
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It's all about the energy and the, you know, what's behind it.
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You know, I don't, I'm never somebody in my business that asks for favors.
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My clients know that.
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 You know, you, Lois, you guys are my boys, if I can help you get clients, we just have that connection on that call, you know.
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I just believe things happen energetically and the way they're meant to happen at a certain point.
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 if they're meant to happen.
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But I just think that connection, the opposite of addiction, is so powerful.
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And I've got to give credit to my spiritual brother, Brendan Novak from Jackass, because he's the one that said it.
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And I think he's coming up on eight years sober.
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It's just such a beautiful, deep, deep statement for somebody like me.
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 How often do you still keep in touch with your spiritual family now?
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It sounds like you talk to them all the time.
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Look, you've got them, Lewis and all your guys.
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And, you know, I've got, I got to just mention them, whether it makes the cut.
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You know, I've got Tim Ryan and Jennifer Jimenez and Chris Herron, who's the best in the game, the ex-boss from Celtic, and Anna David, Ryan Hampton, Brandon Novak I just mentioned.
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I mean, they are my Mount Rushmore.
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 They're the ones with the big, big followings.
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They're out there constantly pushing this message, speaking hundreds of times a year on all the biggest talk shows.
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And we all use each other as our own therapist.
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When we're drained, when we're beaten up, when we need that source of energy, we need that reminder, we call on them.
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We call on each other.
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My sponsor, Steve Delaval, saved my life.
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I called him two days ago.
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I said, I can't thank you enough because, man, you'll never understand it.
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You helped me, Darren, way more than I ever helped you.
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 Because you put the work in and you need it.
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I mean, I heard it in your voice when we spoke a couple months ago.
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I told you what I was taught.
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I'm not a genius making up these things.
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You know, I said, learn to say no.
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Because you got to take care of you.
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I know what's going on with your book tour and you need to get to England with your wife and just check out.
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It's key because
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 You know, if you forget these little tidbits, these little nuggets, you know, you're going to put yourself in a bad energy space.
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You're not going to make it to other people.
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You know, I've learned so much from MJ spirituality wise, like now life is about saying what I mean, meaning what I say and not saying it mean.
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I try to understand people instead of me being understood.
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 And this goes for everybody.
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If you're in a heat of an argument with somebody, bite your tongue, stop the text, don't send the email, because it's so much better to be all right than right.
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Just stay in that place of peace.
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In 10 minutes, you're not going to know why the heck you were so angry in the first place.
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That's what I've learned that keeps me on that spiritual super being, because a lot of those old character defects that come out, that's going to push me closer to a relapse.
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And I'm not afraid of relapsing and dying.
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That's easy.
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 I go bad, my system's not going to take it.
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I'm deathly afraid of relapsing and living.
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That's what I don't want.
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Ever.
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And I'll do whatever the heck it takes.
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I'll move away from people, places, clients, whatever it might be to stay in that place.
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Because nothing is ever worth going back to that life.
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Do you ever feel when you hear someone
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 And they say to you, Darren, you know, I read your book, I hear you, but I just can't change.
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Like, you know, someone's just like, I just, I just, I can't do it.
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It's just not for me.
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I'm not you.
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I'm not as special as you are.
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I'm not as hardworking as you are.
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I'm not as disciplined as you are.
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I can't do the 90 days.
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Have you ever had anyone say that to you?
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And when they've said that, what's been your response?
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It's a great, it's another great question.
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I'm at the La Montrose about,
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 Three years ago, before the book came out, I had this individual.
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I was honored at the New Jersey Mental Health Association Gala in May of 2015.
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I knew nothing about speaking.
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If I even watched the tape long before I started working with my speech and coach, it was probably embarrassing, but I still got the claps and whatever.
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So I found out a week before that this individual was coming, a 23-year-old kid that was in 18 treatment centers, 18.
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 He's coming to see me because he read my bio and the father said it's the first time I saw some light of excitement.
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I actually knew then this event had nothing to do with me.
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That ego was pushed aside.
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This event has this individual all over it.
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That's why I'm chosen to be the speaker in the keynote.
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And we kept in touch.
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I had a great time at the event.
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I spoke to him.
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I actually flew to London later that night right out of Newark airport for some business and text me when I was in London.
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Kept going back.
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 10-20 times I'd be instilling whatever my spiritual knowledge is to him Got to a point where he wasn't checking in as much and I'm at the La Montrose three years ago And I text him from the place that hey, bro, you doing?
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Okay taxes you back.
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You know what?
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 I wanted to reach out for your day.
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I'm just so embarrassed.
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I just feel like I'm wasting your time.
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I just can't get this.
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I'm just not ready.
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I'm not you.
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Everything you just said.
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I picked up the phone and I called him and I said, hey man, I don't care if you go bad 99 more times.
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Get me on the hundredth because I don't want to miss the magic in your eyes because I've seen it.
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 From that phone call, he just celebrated six years sober.
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Wow.
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I love hearing that.
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You can see that one gets me, because it's... I love hearing that.
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That's beautiful.
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How many of the 99 did he get?
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How far did he have to get in?
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Was it the 100th?
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Or he did it 30th?
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It didn't even take more, man.
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I think it was like another one, and he was there.
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He made it.
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You never know how close you are.
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And I just said, it's the greatest feeling in the world, because I know, again, it's not...
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 It's not even me, I'm just being used for my purpose.
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You know, feelings never get old.
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It's just the greatest thing, because you're not just changing that individual.
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It's the mother, and the father, and the girlfriend, and the sister, and the grandparents that are at his first coin ceremony, that I've got the privilege to give him that coin, in tears of joy and hugging each other, this individual from two completely different walks of life.
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 But we had one thing, we had nothing in common, but we had everything in common.
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 I love that, man.
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I love that.
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Everyone who's been listening, I hope that you're going to go and grab a copy of Aiming High by Darren Prince, how a prominent sports and celebrity agent hit bottom at the top.
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It's already an Amazon bestseller, but more importantly, the reason what's resonating with me right now that I want everyone to hear is a lot of the times we turn to knowledge, especially in this space, reactively.
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 We think about it afterwards once someone in our family gets affected or once we're addicted to something.
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And the truth is that we can all avoid this in our lives.
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If we read this book, if we listen to this conversation now, we can actually live a life where we don't have to hit the bottom.
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 to be able to practice this.
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And I think some of us can sometimes be complacent to the fact that, oh, that won't happen to me.
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Oh, that won't happen to my kids.
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So that won't happen.
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And it's so easy to get lost in the, it won't happen to me.
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And the next thing you know, you and someone in your family.
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That's exactly what happens to you.
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 Exactly.
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And it's so, I hate saying that, but it's, it's just reality and the truth.
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And I know that every time my teachers would always say to me, every time I say like, oh no, I don't think that's an issue for me.
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They'd always be like, ah, like that, you know, like don't ever say that because you're, you're running the risk of just having a massive blind spot.
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And so if any of you are listening today and have been moved by Darren, as I've been,
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 Please, please, please go and grab a copy of the book, Aiming High, share it with a friend.
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Darren, before we go into our final five, I wanna ask you one question.
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Anyone who's listening, actually no, I'll share this with you after the final five.
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So as you know, we end every episode with a final five, which is our rapid fire fast five.
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So you already know this, but the answers have to be one word or one sentence maximum.
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So Darren, the first question is,
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 For your final five days, what is your ultimate metric of success today?
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Happiness within and being of service to others.
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Beautiful.
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I did not expect a different answer.
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Second question, what's the best advice you ever received?
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Probably my father.
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It's not what you say, it's what you do.
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I love that.
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Number three, what's the worst advice you've ever received?
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 Probably I got to look back on my buddy.
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I'm not going to mention his name when we decided to go to New York City fresh out of outpatient.
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It didn't turn out too well.
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You know, 90 stitches in my face.
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This is why I got this ugly mug today.
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Oh God.
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No, you look great.
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Uh, question number four.
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He looks great.
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Uh, question number four.
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What's something that you think other people value, but you don't value anymore?
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 stuff and things.
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Again, I got nothing against it.
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I like my stuff too, but ultimately it's not going to be your legacy.
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It's not, it's going to really make you happy.
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It's going to give you temporary happiness.
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Absolutely.
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And fifth and final question.
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If you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be?
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Oh, it's a great question, man.
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Um, one law that everybody had to follow.
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I think I got to go back to being kind.
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 You know, I think that's what it comes down to so often being kind of being a service and not enough people are to wrap them to their own crap.
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And you don't realize when you're more kind and you're more in that place of service, everything works out so much better for you.
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 Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Darren, one last question, which is not part of the final five, but I had to ask this to you.
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If anyone's listening today and they've been incredibly moved and they want to support the work you're doing, what can they do to help?
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How can they support?
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How can they get involved?
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How can they, uh, apart from of course, reading the book, which we're recommending to everyone, but how can people, how can people help?
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 So my foundation, most likely, aiminghighfoundation.org.
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We take, like I said, 100% of the proceeds.
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If people are listening and they can't afford a book, Patrick and the publisher have sent out hundreds and hundreds of books free of charge.
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They can get to me on Instagram at agent underscore DP.
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I just want to put them in people's hands.
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I didn't write the book to make money.
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When it started making a lot of money, that's when I said, I'm going to start my foundation because that's what God would want me to do.
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 Yeah, that's amazing.
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I love that.
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Everyone head over and follow Darren on agent underscore DP on Instagram.
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Go and grab a copy of the book.
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We've put the link in the comments for you as well.
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Darren, thank you so much for doing this.
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Thank you for sharing your soul and your story.
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And I can't wait for people to dive in the book.
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And I mean, there's so many more incredible stories in the book that I can't wait for people to read.
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But most importantly, I want to thank you for just really bearing your soul today and
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 being truly one of the, you know, an ambassador of God, an ambassador of God.
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And I deeply thank you for being that in my life, for being that in everyone else's life today.
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And I can't wait for people to hear this.
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So thank you so much.
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Thanks, my brother.
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And again, thank you for having me.
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Thank you for being so genuine in who you are and touching the world like you do every single day.
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And this has just been a beautiful experience.
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And I can't wait to see how many lives we touch.
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That's why I'm here.
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That's why you're here.
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 Absolutely.
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Thank you, Darren.
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Thank you, man.
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