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Doja Cat.
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Hi.
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What s been the most persistent thought on your mind lately?
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I don t know.
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Freedom.
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Freedom.
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Yeah.
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Just like being able to do things I like to do and like instilling boundaries.
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Boundaries have been on my mind.
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Interesting.
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More than freedom.
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What boundaries have you been setting lately?
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Um, like professional boundaries and, and kind of just really just boundaries in general, like, like relationship boundaries.
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Like if I m talking to like a guy and they re like, let s go get drinks.
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I ll like, be like, I don t trust you.
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I don t even know who you are.
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Like, I don t know you.
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If some guy told me that he wanted to move into a cabin in the woods.
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Like there s like an invite?
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He was inviting you to move into a cabin in the woods with him?
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Well that was his opener.
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In what context did somebody just come up to you and invite you to be in a cabin in the woods?
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It was a dating app.
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You re on dating apps?
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I m on a dating app.
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Can I ask you what dating app you re on?
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I think so, yeah.
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I think, well, I m on Raya.
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You re on Raya?
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Yeah, I think I m allowed to say, yes, I can say that.
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Yes, I am on Raya.
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I keep getting rejected from Raya.
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Really?
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Would you give me a referral?
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I don t, dude, honestly, you re not missing out on anything.
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Really?
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Yeah, everybody looks the same.
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Everyone has the same haircut.
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What haircut is it?
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A Caesar.
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What s, what other kind of like opening line, what s the worst Raya opening line you ve gotten?
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Oh boy, it was long.
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And that s why it was bad.
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People are, I mean, I have to imagine when people match with you on Raya, and they re composing a message, they re doing it like it s the most important thing they ve ever written down ever.
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No, that s exactly how it comes off.
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Yeah, and that s the thing, is I m sure it comes off like that every time.
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It s the craziest thing.
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Some people will write a paragraph, and it s almost like a stand-up,
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Like bit.
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It s like they have like a beginning, middle and end to it.
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Yeah.
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And it s like, relax.
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Like I do the opposite of that.
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Cause I feel like that s more, more chill, more trustworthy to just kind of not really say anything meaningful at all.
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So like, I just, I ll be like hot.
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Do you, do you ever just get a hay?
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I don t like that.
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I don t like, hey, it makes me sad.
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It s like someone s sitting on their phone.
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Like I imagine them on their phone and they re like, Hey, you know what I mean?
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So it needs to be somewhere between Hey, and here s something I had chat GPT right for me.
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Yeah, it has to be creative.
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I really value creativity.
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So like, like I say like, to some guys, I ll be like, clap it.
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And they ll be like, sure.
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It s like, like, it s like, no, I wanted to do something.
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Yeah, more just like something stupid.
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And it doesn t.
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I can tell when somebody is saying something stupid, because they re trying to be funny, or if they re actually funny, and they just say stupid things.
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Hmm.
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Like some people like are try to be funny when they approach me and then there s some people who are just like literally just naturally pretty funny and are chill and cool.
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This is one of the tough things to realize, is that your intentions and what you re thinking subconsciously, it always comes through whether you try really hard not to.
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Yeah.
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Because if someone s composing a message where they re trying not to seem cool, them trying not to seem cool comes off.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I see patterns as well on Raya.
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What patterns?
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So you have a description and your description will like whatever you can put whatever you want.
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And I notice every like 10 guys, there s one guy who s like, can t wait to match and not talk and never meet.
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Can t wait to never meet.
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Do we have to put a bag on that?
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No, you re fine.
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Really?
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No, free advertising for Miller High Life.
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Fuck it.
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Oh, sick.
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Let s go.
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Go crazy.
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And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There will be like every 10 guys, some guys like really bitter.
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And it s like, you don t know that we can tell that you re bitter?
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Right.
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Right.
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Like relax.
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It s a dating app.
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It s not going to be fun.
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It s like going to be fucking sad.
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Did you did you use dating apps before you were famous?
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No, I didn t.
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But I tried to go on Tinder and there was a guy who had a picture of him in front of like three exotic cars or whatever.
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And he just looked like a criminal.
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Like he just looked and he had his glasses on at night.
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And that usually says a lot about people.
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And so I never went back on again because of that one guy.
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Are you, for Raya, are you looking at men and women or just men?
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Just men.
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What s the, like, let s say that somebody, let s say you had a friend who just got on Raya, and they asked you for advice on how to build a good profile, what would you tell them?
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Put pictures of not just yourself looking hot.
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You should put pictures of things that represent your sense of humor Some people don t I I guess don t have a sense of humor sometimes and that s fine That s life.
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But if you if you re like funny and cool like Like let people know that let that be known I
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What are you looking for on Raya?
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Are you looking for love?
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I m just looking for a hot, funny babe.
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A hot, funny, hairy babe with a cool vibe and who is not, I don t know, who has an opinion.
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I like people with opinions.
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Some people just like
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I don t know.
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Everything?
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Or- and that s- that s fine too.
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I don t know, honestly.
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I don t know what the fuck I want.
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I just want to be safe.
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I think that s- that s- You just want to be safe.
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I just want to be safe.
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Hmm.
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Men are terrifying.
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I m really small.
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I m 5 3 .
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They could- I could- Anything could happen.
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That s crazy that somebody asked you to go with them to the cabin in the woods.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That was his opener.
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but like god bless him like if you had gotten to know okay if you had gotten to know him and maybe you d met him in public a few like what how long would it take for you to be like you know what i ll go and i ll go to the cabin in the woods it would have never worked with me and him he s like too docile and sweet i think i need like a little little edge yeah a little bit of edge
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Has your has what you has what you re looking for in terms of like The personalities of the people that you re attracted to evolved as you ve gotten older as it stayed pretty much the same throughout your life They ve evolved absolutely they ve evolved like I ve had a lot of really shit boyfriends, sorry guys and then I ve had You know some some really really really great ones and
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who have kind of and they ve all taught me to Look for the right things and you know in some way or another I think I ve just learned from from all of my relationships to some extent about what not to look for or what to avoid or what to seek What did you did you date a lot like in high school and stuff I
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Uh, yeah.
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No.
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Actually, no.
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No, I didn t date.
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I did the other thing.
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Okay.
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If you know what I mean.
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Were you, um, were you popular in high school?
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Um, I, I, I don t know.
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I don t not really like I, I really liked the the dance sector of my school because I went to a performing arts.
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So I kind of stayed with all the like, within the circle of whoever was a dancer.
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Were you like sort of a theater kid?
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Yeah, like generally speaking, yeah.
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Like I really liked theater, but I think for the most part I wanted to dance and yeah.
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The more theater-y kids, I never really got to know them that much.
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But then I joined some dance crews in LA and I battled around.
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You used to do dance battles?
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Yeah dude, but I don t want to talk about it.
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It s so bad.
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Have you ever done, would you ever rap battle somebody?
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I used to want to do that and nobody that, like nobody I knew was into it.
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So it just never happened for me.
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So I just kept dancing.
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Would you ever challenge somebody to a rap battle?
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Or like show up at one of the, cause I think every city has like a scene of like underground rap battle shit.
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I would love that.
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And I feel like if you rolled up
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Yeah.
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You could destroy people.
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Yes.
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Well, yeah.
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I would love to do that.
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But yeah, I just don t know people that d be down for that.
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You know?
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I know who would.
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I just don t like surround myself with, with people very much.
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I m a lone wolf.
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Have you, have you always been like that?
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Yeah, kinda.
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Yeah, sort of.
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Not really.
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It s like comes and goes.
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Like right now I m very social.
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Like, I m putting myself out there.
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But, uh, yeah.
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I don t know.
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It comes and goes.
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I remember I d like stay locked in my room every day and like make music and stuff on Periscope.
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Remember Periscope?
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Periscopes was the precursor to TikTok or it was like the Twitter streaming thing?
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Yeah, it was Twitter streaming.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I would go on there every single day and I would knock it out of the house.
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I would just like stay and make music and chill all day.
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I ve also been having like an interesting relationship with like isolation because you you ll like go I ve like gone three years and then kind of like been like, oh, I ve been isolating myself this entire time.
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Has that happened to you?
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Yeah, for sure.
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And I like need a change of scenery and need people noises and things like that.
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What do you, like, I ask this for genuine advice.
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What do you do when you feel like you re too isolated?
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How do you get yourself out of that?
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How do you, how do you rejoin the community?
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Uh, oh man.
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Just go on discord.
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Just jump on discord.
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Just hang out on discord all day.
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Honestly, that s like, that s I have a kind of a big friend group on discord.
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And those are sort of my I just don t like see them because everybody s spread out throughout the United States.
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But it s just like, just me and my friends on disc.
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And that s kind of it.
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One of the number one things that people call in here to talk about is how do you make friends as an adult?
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Right.
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That s a great question.
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Yeah.
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And it s really and I struggle with that.
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I used to do stand up and that made it really easy because everyone because, you know, you go out to bars and there s always people around.
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But since I stopped doing that, it got so much harder.
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And I always like
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I guess I try to tell people like find an interest that you have and join a club that s like based on your hobby or something you ever Yeah, it s like you have to physically apply yourself to a community or something
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But it s hard to even begin to fathom that when you ve kind of gotten comfortable in such a, you know, like a cozy, you re a cozy little egg.
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I don t know.
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I like, I think also some people just don t, don t have a hobby or don t want to do anything.
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And like, I get that.
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Man.
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I don t know.
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I think that- I think that being creative, like this- this- my best advice would be is to be creative to some extent, and somebody will share that thing with you, that same liking, and... Maybe- maybe you can make something of it with- with somebody else.
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It doesn t have to be, like, I don t mean so much, like, it being successful, but just, you know... Eh, fucking...
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getting out there and just like doing something, making something, materializing something that happens in your mind, you know, make, make beautiful things.
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I don t know.
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Do you feel like you ve been able to attract a lot of other people into your life, friends and whatnot by making beautiful things?
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And I don t- Actually, yes.
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Actually, yes.
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Actually, yes.
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I was gonna say no.
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Please.
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Please.
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Yes.
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Please.
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So, in a funny way.
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So, like... What else can I say?
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I, uh...
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So my creative director is one of my closer friends to me.
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And then he had an assistant to him who s just like the funniest, like coolest
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girl.
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And like, so chill, such a vibe inspires me.
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But she she was just his assistant.
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She wasn t like being creative along with me.
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But then I started asking her like, hey, like, where do I source this kind of because she has really great style.
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But I was like, you know, asking her stuff about fashion.
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And like, we kind of vibed on that same thing.
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And we just became best friends.
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Like closer than, kind of closer than, sorry Brett.
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Kind of closer than me and my creative director, to be honest with you.
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But everyone s worst fear is that they introduce their friend to somebody and then they become closer with them.
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Yeah, but I mean, you know, yeah, me, you know.
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We all work really, really great together and we still go out, like all of us.
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And she s just like the funniest thing and I even started kind of making music with her.
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She s not musical at all whatsoever, but she has a really good scream.
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She has like a beautiful like, like,
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gut-wrenching, like, blood-curdling scream.
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And I m like, dude, can you please do that on a song for me?
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And so she s been doing that.
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I had her do that on a song.
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It was great.
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It was really cool.
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Is it a song that you put out or that you re- It s not out yet.
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And I, well, yeah, it s not out yet.
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I might start a punk band with her.
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Really?
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So I listened to, um, this interview you did on, uh, Apple music and you were talking about like all this different kinds of, like, you want to get into new genres and stuff.
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You want to get into punk?
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Yeah.
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Do you like, do you like to like mosh?
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Um, I like don t mosh, but I like the culture and I like the feeling.
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I like the emotion that surrounds it and the, you know, what it incites in me.
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Do you have favorite punk bands?
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Yeah, I do.
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I really like the chats right now, just currently.
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I m getting into Sonic Youth.
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My favorites though, probably Idols.
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Who else?
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I mean, yeah, Idols is like, I think my number one.
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Um, I don t know a lot of the bands, but I like the genre, like, do you know the Misfits?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I love the Misfits.
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Classic, yeah.
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Love, uh, like, the Ramones.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um, I wanna go to more, like, local shows.
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Yeah.
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And just, like, fuck around and get punched in the face and stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I don t like, I don t like pain like that.
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No.
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I understand that.
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But, like, I, I love to, like, I love to just surround myself in that.
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Hmm.
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Do you do you ever make?
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Music that you re just like I m literally I m not gonna put this out.
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I m just gonna do it just Absolutely, just to like hear what it would sound like.
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Yeah, I did this thing.
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Yeah, I definitely do that I do like experimental moments where I made a I made a punk song on my own with like splice and like
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Different programs and stuff that I I just downloaded I am learning how to like actually produce and not just use Like default noises, which I ve been doing for like since the beginning And they don t ever come to anything.
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They never come to fruition Rightfully so but yeah, I like actually made like a quite okay thing the other night and It was cute
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Did you really see you really seem like you re always I don t know if this is true, but you really seem like you re always having fun Yeah, and I appreciate that.
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Yeah, I am I am I am
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I am.
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I really like to have fun.
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I think it s important to have fun.
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I think it s important to chill.
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Do you ever, um, have you ever, like, do you ever notice that you re not having fun and you stop?
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Yeah, sometimes.
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yeah yeah you know what actually the other day i found myself i so like most of my life things have been like messy in my room or my house and i ve always had something to do something to organize something to like get done the other day i was in my room my room was perfectly clean i m like great at keeping my house in order
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and i found myself sitting on my like little day bed in my room and just like doing nothing like i was like i was just doing this and so when i did that and i realized i was doing it
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I was like, what the fuck is going on?
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And I kind of understand why people meditate.
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I was gonna say, it sounds like you accidentally meditated.
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I think I by accident meditated.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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How did it feel?
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Were you like, this is gross, I don t like this?
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Yeah, I wanted a vice.
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I wanted to go pour a fucking glass of wine or smoke something.
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Yeah.
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Zero nicotine.
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Um, no, it s very hard to sit and do nothing.
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And it doesn t even feel that productive.
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Cause like people make it out to be like a big, like productive thing to like meditate for an hour every day.
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But I don t, I don t get it.
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Like you could meditate for an hour every day for a year and you d accomplish nothing.
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Honestly?
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Like I could see myself meditating.
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Why is the mic so far?
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I see myself meditating and then being like, I have to meditate now.
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Do you see what I m saying?
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Like it becomes a, like, like a habit.
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In order to feel sane and feel good.
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Yeah.
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I ve got to meditate.
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God forbid.
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Like I have stuff to do.
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Like I can t.
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But couldn t, okay but the vices, couldn t meditate and couldn t meditation theoretically, I guess this is the defense of it, couldn t it theoretically replace some of the other things that you like have to do that I guess are like bad?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, but it s like maybe I want to drink like during a thing that s happening where I can t sit down.
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I bet meditating while drunk.
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Yeah.
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Could be.
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Probably feels great.
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I feel like I already do that naturally.
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I think it would make it easier.
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Yeah, maybe.
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Like sometimes, like when I drink, I don t feel, like I know it s supposed to make you feel like social.
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Yeah.
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But I like, you know when you re drunk and you go to the bathroom?
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Oh my God, yeah.
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And it s quiet and you just are alone with your thoughts and you re like in the toilet?
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Yeah, and it like feels good.
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That s my favorite part.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and your face, you like feel your like face.
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Yeah.
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It like feels good and everything s warm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, totally.
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I ve gotten, um, there s been a couple, do you, are you a weed person?
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Do you smoke pot?
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No, I can t.
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Like, um, well, like when I smoke pot, I ll like get really in my head and think and stuff.
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And I ve noticed that happens to me when I drink too.
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Like anything that deviates me from like normal sober mind, like causes me to reflect on the normal sober mind.
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Do you have anything that does, does that to you?
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Puts you in a state of reflection?
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you know what kind of yeah I think any stimulants like like I last night well not last night a couple nights ago I like don t do this kids I smoked a cigarette and like it was great I really liked it but then the next day I had anxiety all day and then I also had another day like a week before that I had a cigarette
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and and it made me feel terrible the next day like it was I never I don t remember ever getting anxiety from smoking cigarettes or feeling wildly introspective or not even like that just like more just kind of shitty and just you know yeah I uh I think cigs do that to me any sort of nicotine any stimulant any coffee caffeine tea things like that you into you into celsius at all
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No, no, like I just can t drink it.
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Like I can t so I have a really crazy Celsius story Please I like got I like almost got into a beef because of Celsius I blame the size not me like I I so I was singing a song and like doing the voice of somebody else
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With the song like I filmed myself doing the song in the crazy voice and it was like my really bad impression of that person and And people took it super wrong.
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They like thought that I was like trying to like Start cause drama and like issues when really I was just being a fucking asshole People are always
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Doing that looking for something looking for something.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, maybe I don t know if that s the fault of the Celsius Maybe that s the fault of the people.
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Yeah Sure, but I also was just so I feel like with Celsius you re high I Give her.
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Um, if you re so hot if you re taking Adderall before I have it does me I was prescribed it medically.
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Mm-hmm
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And I took it and I was like, I m high right now.
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I m on drugs.
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I m on meth.
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But it makes me feel like optimistic.
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Yeah, I think my experience was I was very robotic and responsible.
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Mm-hmm, but maybe it wasn t Adderall.
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Mm-hmm.
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Maybe it was something else like I m I ve been I ve been I ve been prescribed like SSRIs every now and then and they I was give up because you re supposed to take them for like three weeks until you feel something and I was like fuck this and then it got Adderall and I was like Oh, this is what I thought
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the SSRIs would be.
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It s just instant optimism and appreciation for life and shit.
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But it felt, I mean, I know there s people who take it every day, but it just felt unsustainable to me.
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I was like, I m gonna be on, I m gonna just be fucked up all day.
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Yeah, why do I have to depend on this thing?
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When I could like, I know I could find it in myself.
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I think that s a big part of like, just in general, just like you gotta, you gotta find it in yourself.
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I mean, I under, like.
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And if you really need it,
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people people people will go against the argument by saying stuff like well if your leg is broken you would take a pain killer so why not do the same thing if your brain is broken and so I respect maybe I should give it maybe I should give it a try yeah yeah but you know hey hey man it s a wild industry hey do you want to take a phone call yeah I do let s see what s going on
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Hey folks, it s Lyle.
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I m here to tell you that tickets for my Therapy Gecko live show are available right now at therapygeckotour.com in several cities across the United States.
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Or you can find them at the link in the episode description.
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If you ve never been to one of my live shows before, they are extremely fun, unpredictable, wild evenings that involve a mix of group gecko therapy sessions, as well as some material and presentations from myself.
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And if you ve been to the show before, I have new presentations and will, of course, be interviewing new people.
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If you re a fan of the podcast, you re gonna have a great time at the live show, so I hope to see you guys there.
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Go to therapygeckotour.com or check the link in the episode description for a full list of cities where tickets are available.
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Also, if you don t see your city on the list of cities, please still click the link and RSVP with your phone number so I can contact you when tickets go on sale for your city, because I m going to announce a bunch more dates very soon.
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Geck bless.
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Hmm.
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Let s talk to Carlos.
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Hello?
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Hi, what s up?
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What s up?
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Hello?
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Is this- Hi.
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Is this Carlos20 from California?
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Yes, this is.
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Hi, Carlos.
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Hello.
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Carlos, it says here that your ex recently came back into your life.
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You said it was your fault that you guys broke up.
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And now that she s back...
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You re wondering if you can maintain a friendship.
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Do you want to talk about about this in your own words?
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Yeah, I mean It was kind of like I had a I had a lot of mental health issues going on to the point of like hospitalization and like other shit and then on top of that like I just wasn t being like the best boyfriend and I unblocked this girl who like
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I guess I ve been, um, not even I guess, but I ve been like emotionally cheating with this other girl.
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Um, so my, my girlfriend at the time finds out that like we had been talking again, but like just as friends.
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And regardless of that, like it was, it s the fact that I unblocked this person who she told me to block, right.
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Um, whatever.
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So that happens.
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We end.
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And then recently, like I was just on Tinder and she s like,
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She s still near my hometown.
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Um, so like I swiped right.
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She swipes right as well.
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And then, um, I don t know.
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We re just like talking as friends again.
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And it s like, it s cool.
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It feels like comfortable, but at the same time, like, I just feel bad because of what happened.
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And I don t know if I can like, you know, offer her a friendship with having that guilt, you know?
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And I don t, I don t think that s her fault, but I like, I just, I m not sure it s healthy, you know?
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You feel like you want to break it off completely, kind of.
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yeah yeah and like people have been telling me to do it but like at the same time like i i think she s like i think she s a really great person and you know i i the prospect of having her in my life hypothetically sounds cool i just don t know if it would work out you know yeah man yeah do you have any thoughts on this i have like a not a similar situation but like somewhat i m trying to trying to
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I mean, I don t know, man.
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I think I think follow your follow your gut instinct.
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And if you re doing something for the sake of like, moving on and and finding things that benefit you to your to your soul and like follow your you know, your like your core values and stuff like that.
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Just just follow those and and
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it s about, you know, feeling good and not trapped in a situation that, you know what I mean?
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You don t want to be, you don t want to be trapped.
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No.
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Yeah.
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You don t want to feel trapped.
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I get that.
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Um, and then also just being honest.
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I think being honest is really, really important, especially to her and the way that you, um, part is, is really important.
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I think like expressing it, express all those things, even the things that you think you wouldn t.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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You know, you know, sometimes it s like you want to dress.
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Oh yeah.
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Sorry.
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Wait, what the fuck?
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Oh, okay.
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Sorry.
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Hold on.
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Okay, wait, we re gonna get back in.
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We re gonna get back.
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Oh, wait, crap.
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I hope Carlos Yeah, you know what oh, you know what it is I am oh Crap okay
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Wait, sorry, this is so annoying.
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I have to add funds to this fucking call-in studio thing.
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This is a terrible time for this to happen.
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Put a quarter in the machine, man.
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But we have to put quarters in the machine.
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Okay, let s hope this- Alright, I have to log into my PayPal account.
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Hell yeah, let s go.
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Okay.
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Should I sing while you do that?
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That would be awesome if you could do that.
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Sorry, I m a little bit different when I m like not
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on stage.
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Let s add even more funds just in case.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay, we are back.
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Alright, wait, we might have gotten- wait, where s Carlos?
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Carlos?
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Can you hear me?
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He wouldn t be.
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Okay, let s take... a call... from Joe.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Hi!
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Hi!
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Hi!
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How are you, baby?
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I m all right.
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Um, how are you guys?
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We re just chilling.
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We re just very, very, very much chilling at the moment.
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Yeah, thank you for the singing.
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Oh, yeah, no problem.
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How are you?
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What s going on with you today?
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Um, not much.
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I ve been helping my mom clean, cleaning my room, taking care of the dogs, you know, normal things.
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Nice.
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Joe, what did you want to talk about today?
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It s fine if there s nothing in particular.
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We could just vibe.
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Yeah.
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Oh, well, I mean, there s something I wanted to talk about.
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Also, your assistant is really nice.
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She sounded really pretty.
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Is that Brie?
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Yeah, Brie Rocks.
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Yeah, she was really sweet.
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So I did want to talk about something.
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Um, my boyfriend of like, we re about to go on one year next month.
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And, um, I m so sorry if I sound really shaky.
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I just, my heart dropped when I heard hello.
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So, um, yeah, my boyfriend of about to be one year.
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He lives like 15 like minutes away by car.
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And for the longest time, I ve been doing like a lot of
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long distance, like, you know, I ve been trying to make it work with other people.
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Like, it s funny, because I call, I would try calling you, I think, two years ago, regarding that ex, just never got in.
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I think I actually was on waiting one time, but then I guess it dropped.
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But yeah, like that was also long distance.
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It was like, I think two hours away, and I would always go see him and like stay there for like a week and then come home.
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Um, and, um, like now that I have somebody here, you know, I mean, he s always here.
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He s always here.
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Like comes after class and like stays for like, maybe like three, four hours.
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Um, but like, I don t know.
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I ve asked my friends questions, like how they feel about him.
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And like, um, I don t know.
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I don t think I ever tell them mostly like the bad things, you know?
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I don t know if they re just biased because of my last ex or what, but like, and I ve talked to him about it a lot, you know, something that was like on my mind.
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Are you, are you, are you enjoying this relationship?
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Is it making you feel happy and fulfilled?
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I love it.
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I haven t been this happy in a very long time.
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I m being completely honest.
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I mean, um, because like the last one, oh, were you trying to say something?
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No, no, no.
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I was approving.
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Oh, um, so I mean, like the last one was awful.
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Um, let me give you a little context.
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I was, I went homeless for him.
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I went homeless for him.
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That s how much I loved him.
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He had nowhere to go.
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He was on drugs.
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Um, he, his mom threw him out because of all of it.
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Um, she didn t want that around her kids and everything.
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So like, I totally understand.
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I let him come here.
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Um, he started stealing.
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My mom has diabetes, so he would take her needles.
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and, um, he would go through the bins in the back and, like, he had, like, a lot of old expired debit cards one time, and he, like, he stole one of my old iPods, so it was just awful.
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So, like, now I m with this guy.
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He actually took me to go get my stuff that was in the storage, like, bin, like, out there.
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So, I m, like, I m pretty happy with this guy.
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He s, like... Seems to care.
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Really, really nice.
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Yeah.
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He really cares, um,
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And, but like, I mean, I know I can do things that might upset him.
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Like I never keep my fucking room clean.
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Like ever.
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I have five dogs.
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It s a little hard to keep my little room clean.
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Um, but, um, I just like, I would like to play with him sometimes.
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you know, like play video games.
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But it s always like, oh, I can t because I m with the boys.
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And I ve played with his brother s friends.
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My personality is very,
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let s say, out there.
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I m very loud.
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If I could interrupt for just one second, I guess I want to ask you, if you could pin it to anything, what would you say would be, if there is anything, and I guess I m sensing that because you called, there might be, what would you say, if anything at all, is the main point of contention between you and this guy that maybe you wanted some perspective on?
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If you had to narrow it down to just one thing.
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Wait, why can t I play with you?
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And why can t you come over?
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Like, when it s like an emotional thing, like... He s like, emotionally unavailable sometimes.
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Like, you feel like he s not giving you enough attention that you want out of the relationship?
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Sometimes, yeah.
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Genuinely.
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Like, if I felt, like, in distress at night, I just feel like he wouldn t be here.
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You know?
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And then if I want to spend time with him and his friends, like, it ll just never happen.
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There s a lot of distance between you guys.
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Do you, um, do you tell him that?
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Are you honest about that?
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I have.
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And, um, with the friend thing, I ve told him, like, I just, like, it s just, it s just like your friends.
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Like, what s the worst thing that s going to happen?
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Like,
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You think they re going to say something bad towards me because they aren t, let s say, PC, his friends.
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They never have.
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They aren t very accepting of people like me.
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So I think that s maybe what he s scared about.
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But then sometimes he says it s something else.
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I m not sure what it is, but I just want to be able to play with him.
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You know?
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And it s like, I don t know what he s hiding.
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I feel like he s hiding something.
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I don t know.
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I guess, Joe, I would say this.
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Are you, I mean, to Doja s point, were you being honest with him?
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And are you getting what you want out of, you know, this expression of honesty?
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Is there any progress being made when you guys speak about your issues?
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Is he willing to change things about his situation in order to
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make you happy or better the relationship or benefit in any way?
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He has made a lot of progress, yeah.
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He was never out and he s somewhat out now.
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I think that s complete progress coming from like a
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very conservative family, very, very conservative.
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So he s willing to, he s willing to make leaps for you.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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That s great.
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That s good.
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I think that that s all that kind of matters, right?
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When somebody is willing to work.
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I think that a relationship is a, it s a two way street and it s a lot about, you know, working on, um, you know, on, uh, being together.
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And most of the time it s not work because you love being together.
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But yeah, there should be a mutual respect of each other s feelings.
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And as long as he s meeting the needs that you have, then I think, you know, it s worth continuing.
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Definitely, definitely.
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Joe is there um is there anything else that you want to say to the people of the computer or?
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Anything at all do you want to mention about this before we go?
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Something off-topic my friend wanted to wanted me to say something that does your cat She said ask her to remaster suckered punch.
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I don t know what that means, but that s it Mastered sucker punch they want me to remaster a song that I m never gonna put out.
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Oh I
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Um, yeah, that s it.
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I just want to do that for my best friend.
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But, um... Okay, tell her I said take it easy.
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Thank you, Jo.
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Thank you so much.
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Um, I love you guys and I love, like, your work.
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And you guys really make me laugh a lot.
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Thank you, Jo.
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Have a good night, dude.
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Thank you for that.
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You too.
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What was the song called again?
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Sucker punch.
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Is that an old one?
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Yeah, very old.
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Maybe like four, five years, maybe even six years old.
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Do you look at the past a lot or do you like to stay present?
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I, sometimes I revisit the past.
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Uh, yeah, I, I leave a lot of things behind though.
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I know how to forget about things.
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I know how to just close things out.
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I m very good at that.
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You know, but, um, I don t know, you know.
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What are you, and not even music, just in general, what are you the most excited about for the future?
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What am I most excited about for the future?
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Uh, uh,
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expanding my brain musically and trying things that I m not used to and going to jazz clubs.
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I ve been trying to go to a, I just moved to New York and there, I know they have like all these jazz clubs.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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God, New York has really good bar culture and jazz culture and just art culture.
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I think in general, do you, I m like, do you, is it hard for you to like go out and like bar hop and do all these things just cause like of who you are?
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Um,
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Yeah, sometimes it is sometimes I m very very paranoid.
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I am generally just very very very paranoid about stuff because of what I do and But you know, I make it work.
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Mm-hmm.
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I think also just even if I wasn t Famous, it would still suck sometimes really.
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What do you what like how what do you?
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There s like there s like creepy like men
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And like, I, my like ass hangs out when I go to the club or I go to the bar.
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Like I m always wearing something very sexy.
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Like I dress crazy.
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But you know, there s like stuff that people react in certain ways and like, you know, guys are just like drunk, like drunk people are awful, you know?
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I just like, I, yeah.
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People react to the way that I am men react to the way that I dress that s fine.
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It s like it s gonna happen but like Yes, dude drunk drunk men And drunk women.
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I think honestly drunk.
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Everybody really is not a vibe most of the time Even when you yourself are drunk
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like drunk strangers, like I m fine, but it s like strangers who are like trying to talk about their astrology signs and stuff.
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Does that happen to you?
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Yes, literally that just happened to me.
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Can I hear what this conversation was?
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Some woman came up to our table and was like, you all, for like, okay, to be fair, this was like very nice what she was saying and positive, but like don t do this.
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She like came up to the table and was like,
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I just wanna let you guys know that you are all so loved and you re all so special and someone out there loves you and you re incredible.
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I m a cancer so I just like, I get like this and I just can t help myself.
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And I m sitting there looking at her like I don t exist.
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I m watching her like she s like a screen, like a thing on a screen.
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I can t believe that like,
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some people just get to that point and it s it s you know whatever she sounded like she was on molly
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Yeah, could ve been some mall.
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Like, I do, I, um... Something like that would be hard for me, because, like, I typically... Like, if any stranger talks to me, like... I have a lot of respect for people who are willing to approach strangers and talk to them.
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It s like, if someone ever does that to me, I wanna, like, reward it by being like, oh, yes, of course, and... Yeah.
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But, um...
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But that does that does sound extremely intense.
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I think I m quite closed off.
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So I think when that stuff happens, it s just like Stop it.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know, are you into astrology at all or I m really like I m I get it like I know I understand the signs I understand cuz my mom s really really into it.
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Mm-hmm
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So I just can deep dive into like different signs and stuff, but I don t I don t like it
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I have, okay, here s my take on astrology.
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I m curious what you think about this.
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I don t, I think there s like, I don t like the idea that somebody s like, oh, I am this sign, and so they go to a website, and they read like, because you re this sign, you are like this.
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Like, because you re a Gemini, you get emotional easy, or something.
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And then they take that, and then it just becomes like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, they have to live by it.
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They have to live by it.
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Yeah, it like defines their existence.
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And so it just causes all this like,
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Unnecessary negative personality You can you can abuse astrology you can you can abuse like pseudoscience absolutely Just like anything that is kind of a vice You know, it s yeah, man, I
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I, um, I like talking about it and I actually have a friend who s really good at readings, like doing readings.
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Really?
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He s like fantastic.
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You like give him your, your, uh, date of birth and then like your time, your time of birth and like all this like specific information about you, like where you were born and blah, blah, blah.
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And he ll like, he ll just, just, yeah.
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Can I ask what he read about you?
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He said that right now My life is all about kind of pleasure and just kind of just going for it and just like doing the thing Yeah, even if it s like kind of dumb Enjoy it and like lean into it Don t be ashamed There s like a massive like Saturn return situation happening for me and
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that like that s supposed to It there s a time in my life that s happening right now But there s a couple signs that are going through it right now, but it s it s almost like the planets are asking you Do you really want this?
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Is this what this is what you asked for here?
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It is.
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Do you actually want this?
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Is this really the life that you want to lead for forever and
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And it s so it s like it s crazy when he said that cuz I ve been going through like all this crazy fucking Just like oh my god, dude, like I don t know it s just yeah, it s been a wild year publicly, you know, so I think it s a little poetic and cool and interesting and You know, sometimes I ask him for a reading because of that
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I m curious and you might not have an answer or have an answer that you want to share but when faced with The planets are giving you this is this what you really really want it like when he said that to you Did you have an answer?
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Like if somebody asked me is this what you really want what s my answer to that yeah, I
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No, probably not.
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This is probably not what I want.
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It s what I wanted.
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It s what I used to want.
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It s what I think I needed to be in a safe place.
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I needed to get the fuck out of whatever situation I was in.
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now that I have this freedom I have a I Have this like physical freedom and physical autonomy and now I m more in like the like the mental Autonomy of it all like like taking back my power and kind of doing what I want to do creatively regardless of like this very Marketable Thing that I ve created I m kind of tearing it all down
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But like I mean, that s the thing is if if you were to be Beholden to it you you know, it doesn t matter if it was like the most marketable successful thing ever you just be fucking miserable Yeah, exactly.
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I d be doing the same thing every single day.
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Yeah, and and and I cannot do that I just can t and like and like I said, I think they re cool I think the coolest thing about usually you always seem like having fun.
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I
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Yeah.
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Fuck it, rock and roll.
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That s honestly- That s what I- Fuck it, rock and roll.
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Fuck it, rock and roll.
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Fuck it, rock and roll.
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Hmm.
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So, I- I ve- Yeah, I ve been having a lot of fun creatively.
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I ve been painting a lot more.
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I m like- Yeah, it s nice.
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Yeah, I see you re painting a- I see you on Instagram all the time, painting a wall.
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I know, I painted and people said I look like an old grandma with fat ankles.
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You wanna take another call?
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Yeah.
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Let s see what we got.
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Grandma.
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Fat ankles.
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Hello?
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I just heard myself say fat ankles.
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Hello?
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How are ya?
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I m good, how are you?
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Hanging in there.
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What s, uh, what s going on, Lauren?
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How s life?
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Uh, not... It s pretty good.
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How s y all s life going?
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Skip.
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Look, man.
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We re trying to talk about things.
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We re trying to solve problems.
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Eddie?
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What s up?
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Oh!
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Eddie!
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Oh, hi!
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Hi!
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Eddie, it says here that you have an intense fear of death.
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Oh, no.
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Yes.
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Yes, it is.
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Um... It s... It s really... Oh, God.
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It s intense to, um...
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to a certain degree, for example.
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I, you know, fear of death is in everyone.
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I don t know if y all feel the same way I do, but like, for me, it s just been like, every little thing I do, it s just, oh, this is so cool in the moment.
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But then I, for some reason, I just flash to, oh, what if I can t do this anymore?
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And like, so and so amount of time.
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And, but I don t know if I, if I m making any sense.
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It sounds dumb, but I feel like I m nervous.
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That s not dumb.
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That s natural.
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Go ahead.
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What s your take?
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I think it s fine.
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Continue, but I m just validating.
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Right.
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I appreciate it.
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But I don t know.
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I shit.
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I m trying to formulate words.
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A good example is
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I sit in bed, let s say three in the morning, four in the morning rolls around and first thought that comes to mind is me dying.
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And then like, oh shit, like it settles in.
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It s going to happen someday.
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Of course I m far away from it right now.
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By the way, I m like barely about to turn 19.
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Like I m far away from that time coming, but still it s like a very, like a very valid thing that like,
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I just can t stop thinking about it.
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I can t stop thinking about it.
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It always comes into rotation.
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Is it of old age?
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Is it of natural causes?
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Or is it of an immediate thing that s like happening in the room?
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Or is it a... You just think of... Do you think of like something falling on you, for example?
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Or like, is it... Where does the fear stem from?
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So it just comes... So I... There is a...
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The one of the fears I this fear comes from my grandma basically getting dementia and like, dying really, really young, like, I say really, really, because like, she died in her 50s.
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And like, it runs, it s a thing that runs in the family, like her sisters, like, has it really, really bad.
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And I m afraid of me getting that I m afraid more of my mom getting it because you know, she s like the, she s like a direct descendant of my grandma and stuff.
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Like, that s where the fear sprawled out of.
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Like, first it started off with mental, you know, decline.
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Then it moved on to death itself.
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And then my own, like, the thought of my own death then sparked the question, like, shit, fuck, my dad s getting old as hell.
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What do I do about that?
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Shit, fuck, my sister probably will outlive us.
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Like, and then, and then I, like.
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Yeah.
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And I wanna say,
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And I want to say that it started, like, it probably started for everyone in 2020 because it was just a shit year.
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Like, 2020, I was convinced for the longest time, May 25th, May 25th, exactly, we were going to hit by an asteroid and we were all going to die.
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May 25th, no one died.
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And just the thought of dying, like, OK, yay, no asteroid.
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But, you know, I m going to die still.
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I m gonna die.
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I m gonna die still.
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Something it s impending do constantly.
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Yeah.
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And I ve been trying to like, I ve been trying to get into therapy and stuff.
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I ve been trying to, you know, like, make appointments and stuff to talk with someone about it.
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But, like, I ll be honest with y all.
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I m in college right now $20,000 in debt freshman year.
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I don t got time for anything like and if I
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I do got time for anything.
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I just, I use what I can to sleep.
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Cause God working a job to this fucking economy.
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So, so like, I really just, I try to pull myself out of that hole.
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Like I try distracting myself with any little thing that there is, but I will always end up coming back to fuck.
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I m going to die.
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Yeah, you re working to support yourself in order to support yourself.
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You re working to support to support yourself enough to afford therapy and to even begin to Yeah, it s it s the battle of, of the monetary and the the physical that health the body like what you need to do to take care of yourself.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don t know how you guys feel, but I think the cool thing about dying is that it s like this unifying thing that happens to everyone, like nobody s above it.
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You know what would be way worse?
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You know what s way worse than dying?
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Living forever.
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That would be horrible.
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It would fucking suck.
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It would suck so bad.
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It would be so shit.
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Imagine that.
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Think about that.
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I, um, you know, as a little, as a little kid, like, and this is going to sound cliche as fuck, but as a little kid, like, you know, one thinks they re going to live forever.
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One thinks nothing s going to kill them.
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Like, believe me, like that thought of like immortality as a kid was like, Oh, like nothing, like I m invincible and stuff.
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Now, like as a, you know, maturing adult, like, I don t believe me.
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I don t want to be like, as much as I m afraid of dying.
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I wouldn t want to stay alive after it to see my friends die, family die.
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That s what you should do is you should replace this fear with a fear of living forever.
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And then you can satiate your new fear with your old one, which is, oh, thank God I m going to die.
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And it becomes a meditative good thing.
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Yeah.
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You afraid of dying at all?
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How do you feel about your mortality?
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To an extent, yeah, because I know that, like, I couldn t defend myself in a specific situation.
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I m talking mainly about, like, the inevitability, not like, yeah, not like, oh, I m gonna get murdered.
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No, I don t think that I am.
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I think I just... Yeah.
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Yeah, I don t think I am.
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I hope you don t die anytime soon.
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I... Oh, yeah, I m...
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I don t think you will.
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Saying that is kind of like jinxing it a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, I don t know.
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That would suck if you just died right after this phone call.
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I think I got half of a 40 ounce in me, so maybe take what I say with a grain of salt.
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Eddie, before we go, how do you want to die?
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If you could pick anything.
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Okay, well, I ve thought, there has been a few ways of me dying.
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if I don t die in my sleep, I want to just be killed fat like quickly.
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Like so I quick and painless as painless as can be because I don t I don t want to feel shit when I die.
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Um, and, you know, or let s, you know, let s see what course this country takes, like, you know, let s say they legalize euthanasia.
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Like if I m like, you know, really bad condition, like, I d rather go out like
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literally getting euthanized and it sounds like it sounds barbaric it sounds like whatever but like i i wouldn t want to like if i m in a state of suffering and like i m asking all this to like you know as a question like if you re in a state of suffering do you really think it s like ethical for you to hang around longer like you know what i m saying like i think you should put across like
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I think you should play some Tetris, man.
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I think you need something that just gets you... Yeah, you gotta move your digits.
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Yeah, just something that fully just gets you... outta here.
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But you re thinking too much.
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Yeah.
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You re thinking way too much.
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Yeah, you need to stimulate.
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Just keep stimulating your brain with just, like, shit.
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Like, play something.
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Play a game.
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Play some games.
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Video games really are a great way to forget about death.
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For real.
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Um... Thank you for calling, Eddie.
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Any final words?
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Um, well, uh, yeah.
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Gek, you re awesome.
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Doja, you re fucking amazing.
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Um, and fan of the show.
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I m glad I got to talk with y all.
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Have a good evening.
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Take care, Eddie.
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You as well.
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That really is like, that s all I m looking for, man.
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That s all I want.
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That s all.
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That s all I want is just to be it just to be in the moment.
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Yeah.
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Snoppy with my fucking.
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Because when you re depressed you re thinking about the past and possibly the future when you re actually thinking about the future, but when you re just Playing Tetris and getting drunk.
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Yeah, you re right.
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You re there.
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Yeah, you know, yeah, do you don t you don t you re not afraid of death at all?
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You re like you ve accepted it.
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Yeah, I think I ve accepted it How would you if somebody if you got diagnosed with like a terminal thing and it was like you have a week I would be like I d be like, oh, let me prep my brain for this.
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Okay, I would be like, yeah I mean fuck it.
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Like what am I gonna do?
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Mm-hmm
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Let me, like, do something I like.
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I d be like, what s a fun thing I can do right now?
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Like, hey, this sucks, but, like, what s a cool thing to get into while this sucks?
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A death hobby.
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Yeah, a death rally hobby.
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Death rally hobby, like, I m trying to think of something.
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Well, I assume a death rally hobby would be something dangerous.
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Would it?
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My god it will Breaking Bad kind of yeah, no not selling meth.
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This is a hobby.
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Yeah No, not for me, but you know
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Um, I think I would just like, uh, yeah, I would, I would just be creative as I can in that, in that time.
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Are you, does the concept of legacy, is that a thing that you think about or do you think about like?
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Not at all.
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That s good.
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Not at all.
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That s good.
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Like I don t want kids ever.
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Really?
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No.
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Never?
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Yeah.
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No.
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Really?
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Because the thing about life is when you have kids, you re gonna destroy them.
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You re gonna fuck them up.
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You don t have a choice.
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I don t feel like fucking anybody up.
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I don t know.
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It s a lot of responsibility.
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Yeah, no judgment towards people who have kids.
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It s just I don t want to do that.
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Do you ever fantasize about domesticated life?
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Just like, like, are you like a, I want a ranch in Wyoming.
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Oh yeah.
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100%.
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I want like dogs.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Hard to fuck up dogs.
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Yeah.
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I want dogs.
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I want to be responsible enough to take care of dogs.
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I like animals.
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Like if I m going to have kids, they re just going to be like hairy animals, four legged.
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quadrupedal what s the four four legs on four legs quad quadrupedal quadrupedal quadrupedal quadrupedal puppies yeah quadrupedal puppies is what i would have is there a breed of dog that you re particularly interested in i really like scotty dogs and i like um anything that just can t kill me no pipples
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Um, I, I, so I had, um, before I readopted my dog to my, one of my best friends, uh, I had a, uh, what s his name?
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Or sorry.
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What is it?
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What is it called?
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It s called a, uh, American bully, but I don t think that he was like purebred.
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I think he had like a mixture of a couple things.
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I don t know what the deal was over there with that.
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They didn t have really the right information.
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I don t think about his, uh,
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Yeah, his mixture, but he was, he s the perfect dog.
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He s like textbook, gorgeous, like perfect proportions, like beautiful, like best personality that I ve ever seen in a dog.
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A little like jumpy still in his puppy mode, but he has these moments where he sits there and he just looks into your eyes and he just like takes you in.
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Are you a cat person at all?
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SPEAKER_00
I am a cat person.
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SPEAKER_00
I have four cats.
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You have four cats?
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SPEAKER_00
I have four cats.
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SPEAKER_00
I have two babies, one 16 year old.
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Do they come with you when you tour and stuff?
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No, they don t.
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Because cats get stressed out and they like to be in one spot forever.
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They like routine.
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So I wouldn t do that to my babies, but sometimes I do wish that I could bring them with me.
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yeah you know um i ve always said like the thing about kids is it s really the only thing really the only anything could happen to you and you could figure out a way to deal with it except like grievous injury death going to prison or having children
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Mm-hmm.
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There s like the four things that like you can t you can t hustle your way out of yeah Yeah, I mean you can like it is frowned upon you can abandon your child, but that s yeah, that s frowned upon.
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Yeah That s not cool.
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Those are like the four permanent that anything else you can quit your job.
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You can get divorced You can do you have pets?
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I have a dog, but it s not my dog, it s like my family s dog.
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SPEAKER_03
Wait, earlier you said you had two questions for me.
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Oh, I do have two questions for you.
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SPEAKER_00
What were your two questions?
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Is it still gay if you come?
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And... Hold on, wait, before I... I want to think, is it still gay
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Wouldn t it be, is it still gay if you don t cum?
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Because if you cum, that would make it more gay.
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Is it, oh sorry, is it gay if you don t cum?
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SPEAKER_00
Is it still gay if you don t cum?
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SPEAKER_03
Is it still gay?
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Wait.
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Are you, and I assume the context is gay sex.
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SPEAKER_00
I wrote it correctly, and I don t remember how I wrote it.
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The question is, is it gay- is it still gay to have gay sex if you don t cum?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03
Is it gay to have gay sex if you don t cum?
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SPEAKER_00
Do you wanna know what the other question was?
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SPEAKER_02
Yes.
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SPEAKER_00
Uh, why isn t your face red if you re the mouth?
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If it s the mouth.
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Like, your face is inside of the mouth.
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Like, you should be like- it should be red.
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or like black or something.
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SPEAKER_02
It s probably gay.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, it s probably gay.
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SPEAKER_02
Let s take another call.
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SPEAKER_02
Hello.
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SPEAKER_01
Howdy.
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SPEAKER_03
Oh, I like howdy.
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SPEAKER_03
How s it going, Carlos?
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SPEAKER_03
What s up?
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SPEAKER_01
Um, I m doing well.
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SPEAKER_01
Um, I have a lot going on, but, um, I am trying to wonder how to attract a dominant woman into my life.
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SPEAKER_00
I can help you with that.
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SPEAKER_00
Uh, okay.
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SPEAKER_00
Um, how old are you?
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SPEAKER_01
I m 38.
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SPEAKER_01
Uh,
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SPEAKER_00
Fuck, maybe I can t help you with that.
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Because he s 38?
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know what older women are doing that that that like in your bracket vibes.
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SPEAKER_03
That would be like a like a cougar for you at this point would be like a woman in her 60s.
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SPEAKER_00
I also don t know what type what what what s your age preference?
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SPEAKER_01
Um, I tried, I don t know, like, mid 20s to mid 40s, I guess.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay, cool.
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SPEAKER_00
Damn, how would you attract, okay, how to attract, how to attract a dominant woman?
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SPEAKER_03
Wear one of those rainbow hats with a spinner on it.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you could do that.
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SPEAKER_00
You could also, you could do that.
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SPEAKER_00
Damn.
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And a big lollipop.
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SPEAKER_00
I m, like, really struggling trying to... I don t know, go to karaoke?
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SPEAKER_00
Fuck it.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know.
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SPEAKER_03
Where do you think dominant women hang out?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, where do dominant women hang out?
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SPEAKER_03
What about those axe-throwing places?
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SPEAKER_00
You could... No, because that s... Oh, maybe.
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SPEAKER_00
At a shooting range?
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At an axe-throwing range?
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03
Go to...
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You re in Texas, right?
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SPEAKER_01
I am.
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SPEAKER_03
Go to a gun range.
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SPEAKER_00
Dominant women want to go to a place where they feel... Dammit.
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SPEAKER_00
What does a dominant woman want?
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SPEAKER_00
I m trying to start from the bottom here.
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I don t know...
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I m not sure I know where that is.
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SPEAKER_00
Like where... Go to like a bar that has a pool table in it.
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They like leaning up against pool tables and like play... I don t know.
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SPEAKER_00
Honestly, man, I m... He might be a... Lyle might be a better... Help to you.
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Okay, Lyle, what are you thinking?
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SPEAKER_03
Do you consider yourself a... Are you a docile... boy?
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SPEAKER_03
I guess a dominant woman... I assume if you want a dominant woman, you re a submissive man.
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SPEAKER_03
Or I assume dominant women would be... Would a dominant woman typically be attracted to an even more dominant man or to a submissive man?
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SPEAKER_00
People are too complex for me to even answer that.
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SPEAKER_00
Do you use dating apps?
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SPEAKER_01
I try to but like I m already dealing with the fact that around here people are just not my type generally.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I get that.
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SPEAKER_01
There are a lot of people here that like they hold values that I don t and then like I m also like you where I don t really want kids and there are a lot of people that really want to start families and it s not for me.
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Maybe a creative woman.
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I think creative women, they paint their own reality in some way.
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They kind of have control over, they have a vision.
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SPEAKER_00
And I think you have to have a vision in order to be dominant or somewhat in control, right?
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SPEAKER_00
So somebody with a vision creatively.
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I was thinking that too, because I m trying to become a better artist.
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And one of the jokes online is that, you know, when people make art, this is their barely disguised fetish.
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SPEAKER_01
And it s like, yes, I want to draw things that, you know, turn me on and turn others on.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
So maybe I should be the one to be drawing that as well.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03
Are you, do you draw like giantesses?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
What do you draw?
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SPEAKER_01
No, it s usually like, uh, bonded stuff and like muggles and leashes.
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SPEAKER_00
So your art, your art directly, um, mirrors what you are seeking quite literally to some extent.
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Okay.
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Um,
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Honestly, man, you might wanna just be involved in a community that s into that sort of thing, right?
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Like you just, you know, like poke around and see who s into what.
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And there s a lot of people, there s a lot of people that are into that.
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SPEAKER_03
Brother, why don t you get on, why don t you get on FetLife?
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SPEAKER_03
You know what FetLife is?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, get a FetLife, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03
I bet.
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SPEAKER_00
Go to Folsom, have you gone to?
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SPEAKER_03
What s Folsom?
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SPEAKER_00
Folsom Street Fair.
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SPEAKER_03
Oh, I ve seen that before, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, dude.
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SPEAKER_03
Dude, I bet FetLife in Texas is fucking crazy.
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SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03
I bet there s a scene of all kinds of people who would love to tie you up and piss in your mouth that you can find on FetLife.
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SPEAKER_00
He s not kidding.
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SPEAKER_03
You re probably right.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Try FetLife.
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SPEAKER_00
I would trust it.
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SPEAKER_00
I would trust.
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SPEAKER_00
Try that.
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SPEAKER_00
Try poke around on the, poke around on the internet a little bit.
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Look at some, look at some, uh, some forums.
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SPEAKER_03
They go on the forums.
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SPEAKER_03
You know, is that what you re looking for?
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SPEAKER_03
Somebody to piss in your mouth?
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SPEAKER_01
No, no, not really.
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SPEAKER_01
No.
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SPEAKER_01
So specific.
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SPEAKER_03
If you re looking for someone to I feel like isn t that the ultimate form of domination is somebody peeing in your mouth?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, sure.
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SPEAKER_00
But that s so specific because that s just water sports.
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That s
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It s not even like- What do you mean it s water sports?
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SPEAKER_00
It s water sports.
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That s like a category.
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SPEAKER_01
I ve never heard it referred to as water sports.
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SPEAKER_00
It s literally called water sports.
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And it s a specific category.
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SPEAKER_01
You re saying it like it s in the Olympics.
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I mean it fucking kind of is.
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With how- Maybe.
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With how intense it can be.
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SPEAKER_02
Maybe Lyle needs to spend more time on the internet.
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SPEAKER_00
No, I don t think he likes to gargle.
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SPEAKER_00
I think he s more of like a- I think you hear more of like a cerebral fucker.
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SPEAKER_01
Cerebral fucker.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, he s more an intellectual fucker Yes, uh We ll meet with your mind.
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I Think that it s part of I think it s like do you do you feel you feel safe with someone who s dominant because you feel like there s somebody who is in control and and you You feel like you can lean on that a little bit and you can trust Like you want to trust someone?
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SPEAKER_02
I like the idea of being vulnerable with another person.
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SPEAKER_02
Like, I really want that.
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SPEAKER_02
I ve just been alone for a while now, and it s... Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
Ugh.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
It s hard.
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SPEAKER_01
So, like I said, this is not a sexual thing, specifically.
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SPEAKER_01
This is just you want someone to... You want someone that you can trust to be vulnerable with.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, a lot of that BDSM stuff is, like, rooted in, like, a core...
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SPEAKER_00
saying that people, people have been through different things in their life where they need to feel like they can open up to somebody or they can trust somebody.
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SPEAKER_00
And like, for instance, like, if you tie someone up, you re putting all of your it s like a trust fall, like you re just putting your you re just saying like, hey, like,
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, that s literally it.
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SPEAKER_00
You re just like saying, I trust you.
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SPEAKER_00
And that s a huge part of relationships is trusting people.
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SPEAKER_00
Some people have relationships where they don t trust each other, but there s nothing more ultimate than like being in trust with someone.
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SPEAKER_01
That s a good way to look at it.
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SPEAKER_01
You re looking for somebody who you can trust enough to tie you up.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Cause once you re tied up, they could like,
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put a cigarette out on your nipple and you re like, ow.
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SPEAKER_00
Or they could throw you in a cold pool or something that you wouldn t like.
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SPEAKER_00
But they won t do that because... Because they love you.
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SPEAKER_00
Because they love you.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
And you trust them not to do those things.
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SPEAKER_00
Some people like cigarettes being put out on their nipples.
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SPEAKER_01
I kind of want to get on FetLife now.
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SPEAKER_00
Dude, make one.
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SPEAKER_01
I ll make one.
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SPEAKER_01
I ll run into Carlos.
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SPEAKER_00
Run wild.
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SPEAKER_00
Hell yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
What would be your thing?
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SPEAKER_01
What would be my thing?
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SPEAKER_00
Would it be being a furry?
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SPEAKER_00
Cosplay?
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SPEAKER_01
Dude, alright, so a lot of people ask me, they re like, am I a furry?
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SPEAKER_01
And if a furry is somebody... well technically I d be a scaly.
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SPEAKER_00
You re such a fucking scaly.
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SPEAKER_01
If a furry is merely somebody who is a human being that regularly dresses as an animal, I do fit that description, yes.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
There s nothing wrong with furries.
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SPEAKER_00
He s a cosplayer.
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SPEAKER_00
He s a...
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, he s a, he s a furry.
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SPEAKER_02
Y all know what mursuiting is?
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SPEAKER_01
Say that again?
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SPEAKER_02
Mursuiting?
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SPEAKER_01
Mursuiting?
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SPEAKER_02
When you have sex while you re in a fursuit.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh.
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SPEAKER_01
What about it?
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SPEAKER_00
That s what they do, like they do that in the suit.
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SPEAKER_00
By the way, no way that that lasts longer than five minutes.
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SPEAKER_01
What, having sex in a costume?
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SPEAKER_00
In a fur suit.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh my, you d probably sweat your fucking balls off.
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SPEAKER_00
Physically able you have to be, you know, physically like just advanced you have to be to be able to do something like that with like the gloves and like
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SPEAKER_01
It s like doing push-ups with a weight on your back.
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SPEAKER_00
You re looking out of a mouth that has a black mesh on it, probably.
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SPEAKER_00
And you can t see anything.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, it just sounds absurd.
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SPEAKER_00
I m imagining it as the guy, though.
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SPEAKER_01
It s kind of like two glory holes having sex with each other.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01
You re just you re right because you re fully blocked off.
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SPEAKER_00
That s true.
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SPEAKER_01
You re like, you re just two walls.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
That are going at each other.
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SPEAKER_00
Right.
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SPEAKER_01
Well, I ve also heard that those costumes, like the real ones are like, I mean, people s people will drop 10 G s.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
They re so expensive.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_01
They re so expensive.
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SPEAKER_01
Are you a fursuit guy?
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SPEAKER_02
Uh, no.
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SPEAKER_02
I consider myself a furry, but I don t have the money for the fursuit.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, you are a furry, but you don t have the suit.
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SPEAKER_02
Right.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, okay, okay.
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SPEAKER_01
What, uh, so how, like, your fur is in you, like, it s, like, mentally you re an animal, or how does that work for you?
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SPEAKER_02
No, I just, like,
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SPEAKER_02
furry characters.
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SPEAKER_01
Nice.
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SPEAKER_02
And I like to draw them as well.
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SPEAKER_00
Taking on another identity.
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SPEAKER_00
Sorry.
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SPEAKER_00
Like you like to take on another identity other than yourself.
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SPEAKER_00
It s the fantasy aspect of it.
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SPEAKER_02
Like that kind of goes along with like the BDSM stuff.
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SPEAKER_02
It s like it s just role play with another person.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
You re building a scenario.
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SPEAKER_02
Mm hmm.
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SPEAKER_00
You re building a world.
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SPEAKER_00
That s fun.
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SPEAKER_01
Hell yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
What would the fursona be of a dominant woman?
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SPEAKER_01
Like a rhino?
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SPEAKER_00
She d be like a... I don t know if I d fuck a rhino.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know if she d be a rhino.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, maybe she d be a rhino.
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SPEAKER_00
Fuck it, she ll be a rhino.
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SPEAKER_00
But I mean, whatever, dude.
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SPEAKER_00
Maybe like a horse or something.
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SPEAKER_00
No, because you ride a horse.
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SPEAKER_00
A horse is a submissive creature sometimes, but it s also a creature that runs wild.
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SPEAKER_00
So to some extent, I don t know, they can go both ways.
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SPEAKER_00
Uh, yeah, I don t know.
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SPEAKER_01
Grant, do you feel like this was helpful for you?
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SPEAKER_00
A little bit.
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SPEAKER_00
That s good enough.
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SPEAKER_00
That s good enough for me.
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SPEAKER_02
I ll start a FetLife account, I guess.
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SPEAKER_01
Please do.
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SPEAKER_02
All right.
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SPEAKER_01
Have a good night, Grant.
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SPEAKER_01
You too.
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SPEAKER_01
Wait, I don t know why.
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SPEAKER_01
Why the fuck have I been called?
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SPEAKER_01
Your name is Carlos.
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SPEAKER_01
Why have I been calling you Grant this whole time?
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SPEAKER_00
Maybe there s another kind of thing called Grant.
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SPEAKER_02
Whatever, man.
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SPEAKER_01
Bye, Carlos.
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SPEAKER_00
Bye, Carlos.
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SPEAKER_02
Love you both.
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SPEAKER_02
Bye.
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SPEAKER_02
Good luck.
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SPEAKER_00
Dude, I have to piss.
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SPEAKER_01
Go piss.
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SPEAKER_00
Really?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, go piss.
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SPEAKER_01
I ll hang out.
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SPEAKER_01
I ll talk to the chat.
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SPEAKER_01
How was your bathroom break?
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SPEAKER_01
Do you feel relieved?
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SPEAKER_00
It was cool.
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SPEAKER_00
I went barefoot and I stepped on something wet.
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SPEAKER_00
Do you think I have athlete s foot now?
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SPEAKER_01
You might have something.
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SPEAKER_01
Well, I don t even know what athlete s foot is.
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SPEAKER_00
I definitely have something.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, athlete s foot is...
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SPEAKER_00
Athlete s foot is more just like when like your feet are sweat.
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SPEAKER_00
It s like you got to be an athlete, but not really It s like you re like are wearing too tight of shoes And you know you ever heard of foot in mouth Disease no that sounds hot.
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SPEAKER_00
What is that?
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know I was asking because that s something I ve just heard of I assume it s a disease that you get when you put your feet in your Mouth okay, okay?
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SPEAKER_01
And then athlete s foot and mouth is the disease you get when you step in something wet in the bathroom And then you put your feet in your mouth If I wanted to I could have foot and mouth Syndrome do you think people ever make themselves sick for fun?
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SPEAKER_01
Me really That s gotta be someone s thing
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SPEAKER_00
Part of me likes to be sick, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00
Do you ever get sick and you feel like... Yeah, you re a little high.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you get a little... Like you get a fever.
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SPEAKER_00
Like when you get the flu.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
Do you ever... Well, it s a great excuse to not fucking do anything.
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SPEAKER_00
Right.
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SPEAKER_01
And, um...
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SPEAKER_00
Dude, are you does ever feel good?
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SPEAKER_00
Like, you know when you re in bed and you re like out of body and you re like you re like floating.
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SPEAKER_01
Mm-hmm There s a little bit of like restriction of oxygen to the brain.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, it does feel good.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Are you a NyQuil person?
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SPEAKER_01
No, I don t take any of that stuff.
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SPEAKER_01
I think I m scared of it.
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SPEAKER_00
Really?
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SPEAKER_01
I think I m scared of NyQuil.
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SPEAKER_00
What are you scared of?
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SPEAKER_01
Or maybe I m not scared of... Well, NyQuil is always a drink thing.
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SPEAKER_01
You always drink it, so it s liquid.
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SPEAKER_00
You can take it as a pill.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01
No, yeah, I think I just avoid anything that s like a liquid medicine.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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SPEAKER_01
So I just don t...
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SPEAKER_00
Not to, like, try to put you on a new vice, but, um, fucking NyQuil is so awesome.
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SPEAKER_00
I ve never done- I ve never done Lean before, but I have- I would probably love it.
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Is that, like, baby Lean?
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I- Lean is just- Have you ever done Lean?
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NyQuil is baby Lean.
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Lean is just NyQuil and, like- I haven t, but- Lean is just NyQuil, right?
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Yes, it s like very strong That s that s big boy NyQuil and then NyQuil is baby lean
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and they put jolly ranchers in it yeah and then they put jolly ranchers in it and then they rot their teeth and then they make it they re embarrassing sorry guys sorry i m sorry some people like really really like that shit and they can t even help themselves and so i understand that so that s you know no no no judgment but but like but i don t think the do you think are you afraid the lean community is gonna
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I think that the lean community might come after me.
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Do you think r slash lean is gonna?
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Via x.com.
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I think that the lean community is gonna be really upset about that one.
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Well my message to the lean community, if anyone wants to hook me up with some free lean, I would love to try it.
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Is there any like, what s left for you to try that you haven t tried yet?
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Why isn t your face red?
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I m never gonna answer that question.
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Why would you do that?
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Why would you not answer that question?
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Some things in life You love that you that you painted your face green and you re not following the norms of how geckos should anatomically add up I ain t a normal gecko You re like a you re like a you re like a
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Fuck it, whatever.
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Moving on.
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What s up?
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So what was that?
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What were you gonna ask me?
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Oh, uh, if there s anything you haven t tried yet that you wanna try.
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Just in general.
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Anything that in- Oh, like drugs?
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It- It could- I- The question was spurred by a drug thing, but it does not have to be a drug answer.
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Um, okay, okay.
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Something that I wanna try.
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I wanna try... Um... Uh... Uh...
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Ooh, I wanna go to a rave.
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You ve never been to a rave?
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I ve never been to a rave.
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I would ve thought you d like.
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I seem like that, don t I?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no I haven t.
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I really wanna go to a rave.
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I wanna be sweaty.
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I think I would ve never done that in the past just cause my, I would wear wigs and stuff and there d be glue on my head and it was gross and to be in a sweaty environment.
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I feel like you could put together a sick rave outfit.
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Oh my god, yeah.
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Yeah, I ve been practicing for that.
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What would your rave outfit be?
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It would be so chill, first of all.
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I have a couple different outfits.
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My one would be some regular windbreaker pants with the stripes down the side and a tiny little t-shirt.
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I d put fake nipples under so that it looked like my nipples are erect the whole night.
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and it s hot and I ve got glitter on my face and I have on like maybe no makeup I might put on some like some mascara but just glitter and then uh and like yeah and and some sneakers.
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I feel like you would you ever would you ever like are you I know you re like experimenting with different genres would you ever do like a DJ set would you ever like play a rave?
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Um, I don t know.
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And I honestly, I think that like, my focus isn t very great for something like that.
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I think I d get distracted quite easily.
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I can see myself having too much fun.
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And then like, ruining the set.
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I actually, I put on a rave, uh, for New Year s this year.
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It was called the, it was called the reptile rave.
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No way.
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It s called the reptile rave.
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And, um, we got a real, we got a DJ and I stood on stage and just did this.
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Did I hear about this?
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Were there like, were there like folks there?
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There was like a hundred there s no it wasn t it wasn t like a folks or not I don t think I would be if you had heard of this I would be extremely surprised.
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Oh, okay.
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No is the reptile rave?
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Niche folks niche folks.
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Okay people some people shut up in crocodile costumes.
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I just wanted to do something different I don t even like MD.
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I don t even I don t even like a DM.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I just thought it d be fun I that s dope.
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I love themed parties, too.
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I
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would you ever get you should go to uh... track rate that s like to take it and i think that s what i heard about that i got a mixed up with what you re saying yeah uh... really track rate what s it what does that entail and is everyone look like track i well i think people
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Dress up as characters from Shrek, okay, and then the DJ plays I assume I ve never been but I assume the DJ would play music that like samples Shrek I want to go I want to go I want to go I want to get to two of my homies goes the three little pigs what?
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Look, that s amazing.
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There s also a Spongebob rave.
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Oh, see, now I would do that.
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I would do that one.
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But I m also a Shrek.
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I get the whole Shrek thing.
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I love that, like, the producers of Shrek did not see that coming, probably.
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I m surprised they haven t gotten C and D. What is that?
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Cease and desist.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like, I don t know how that works.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Are you a Spongebob fan?
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I m a big sponger.
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Um, and I sponge frequently.
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I love, I love Spongebob so much.
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I, um, it s sad because I think, and no offense to like, I know it s not easy to make a show.
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This is going to seem mean, but like it, it, it s been bad since after season three, I think.
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Yeah.
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There s only been three good seasons of Spongebob, in my opinion.
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I think something happened, obviously.
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Yeah.
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But I do really love Spongebob.
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Yeah.
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Well, if so, if you were going to go to the Spongebob rape, what character would you?
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I would be, well, obviously I d be Sandy because I just want to be sexy.
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I don t understand the implication that you can t be sexy as like Squidward.
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Well, thanks.
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Mr. Krabs.
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Thank you.
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Patrick.
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I think you could put, you could put, you could pull, you could pull off any of the fun stuff.
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I could be a sexy Patrick.
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I could be a sexy Patrick, but I honestly, Sandy.
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Cause I love wearing a little tiny bra and then put, and then, wow.
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You know what?
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She s, she s like kind of naked in that whole.
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She s like totally like naked and like, she s like, yeah, she s got like body and everything.
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Sandy?
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Not really.
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She s a squirrel.
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I shouldn t say that.
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We need Carlos s opinion.
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We do.
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We need Carlos s opinion on Sandy Cheeks.
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Have you have you ever done MDMA I have do you like it?
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Yeah, it s the bet I want to do it last time I did it was at Coachella two years ago.
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I haven t done it since Yeah, I I stopped doing all of that stuff Way back when but I ve had a great experience on it I
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And I really didn t need to do it more than... more than... once or... twi- I think I did it twice.
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I think I felt pretty satisfied after the second time.
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I think it s just, like, intense, and I have so much, like... I get, like, overstimulated, and I have a lot of energy, and, like, I just don t even need it.
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I don t even need it.
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I think I, like, naturally am just, like... People, like, really genuinely think that I do... like, coke.
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People think I m, like, a coke head.
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Why do you think people think that?
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Maybe because like I m like I have like corny moments about me.
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Like I can be quite corny and like outspoken or something or like I m loud or something or like I can come off very angry sometimes and like on live and shit like that.
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I think that s a lot of what it is and I m
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I m just, I m just a goofy, I m just a goofy guy.
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I mean, it s just, I mean, it s like a, it s all a character.
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Yeah.
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I think sometimes when I m a goofy babe, people get, you know, they get uncomfortable.
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Are you like a, are you, or were you ever like a shrooms acid person?
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I did.
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I did my share of shrooms.
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I did my acid.
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I quit cigarettes on acid.
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I heard it.
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I forget what interview but I heard you tell a story about how you quit Nicotine through hypnosis.
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Yeah, and I quit sick.
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I quit nicotine through hypnosis what recently nine months ago eight months ago.
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I
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I heard that and I was like, fuck, I gotta check out hypnosis.
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Yeah.
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Um, and I have some interesting, uh, is it prognosis?
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I don t know the words very, very much, but I, I, uh, I quit cigarettes.
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I walked in, I walked into that hypnosis session, walked out of that building and didn t smoke one cigarette or have one nicotine vape for nine months.
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Really?
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Can you explain what went on in your brain?
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I just was like, fuck I want a cigarette so bad.
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And then I was like, I don t smoke cigarettes.
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But I m not a smoker.
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I don t smoke.
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I don t want a cigarette.
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I don t smoke.
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But I do want a cigarette, but I don t smoke.
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So that s what there s this internal dialogue over and over and over every single day.
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And in my mind, I would scream inside my head.
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I would go, I m like, I m not a smoker.
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I don t smoke.
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I m a nonsmoker.
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I don t smoke.
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Like I wouldn t say I don t want to smoke but I would say I m a non smoker and I don t smoke and I would say it in my head over and over every time I thought about Cigarettes you make it an identity.
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Yeah.
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Yeah sort of or I just like I just think about it occupies my mind that I don t smoke cigarettes.
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I just don t
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I m trying to get on that wave with, uh, I ve been addicted to candy.
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That s like my vice is like candy and like sugar.
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And like, that s the problem is that it s it.
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See it.
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The fact that it s cute is a problem because it s like, uh, well, bad.
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Well, do you like, do you brush your teeth and everything like that?
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Sometimes this is embarrassing to say as an adult, but I ll say it.
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sometimes I get too lazy and I don t brush at night.
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I brush every morning.
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You know what, I don t brush at night either, I never do.
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I don t brush at night ever.
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Sometimes I do, sometimes I like, yeah.
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Can I, all right, so like, you, all right, you go out, you play a fuckin  arena show, you throw your entire life, you throw it all out,
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Yeah.
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On the stage.
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Yeah.
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You re exhausted.
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Yeah.
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You have nothing left to give.
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Yeah.
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You re not gonna brush your fucking teeth after that.
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No, are you kidding me?
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I m not gonna brush my teeth after a relaxing night of Fortnite.
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Hmm.
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I m not gonna even do it then.
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Do you brush your teeth at all?
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Uh, no.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Why did I just say that?
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God fucking damn it.
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Do you, was that the truth?
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What s the truth?
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Look at my teeth.
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You have nice teeth.
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They re gorgeous.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But do you brush them twice a day?
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And I brush my, so, so my thing with my teeth is one of my exes used to brush their teeth for like 10 minutes straight nonstop.
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And I felt like he had like a moral high ground over me.
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And so I started brushing my teeth for a very long time.
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And then I brush my tongue for like five minutes.
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Every single day.
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It s weird.
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I brush the absolute fucking life out of my tongue.
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I get everything off of that thing.
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Because I m terrified of bad breath.
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I even mentioned it when you were doing my makeup earlier.
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You did?
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Yeah.
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You didn t have bad breath though?
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Really?
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No.
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You swear to God?
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No.
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Okay, cool.
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Here s the thing.
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I wouldn t tell you if you did.
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Why?
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Am I scary?
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No, I don t think you re scary.
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But you didn t.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, that s fucked up though.
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You should tell me that I have my have stinky breath.
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I don t remember you.
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I don t think you did.
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Do you feel like you have bad breath right now?
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well um my mouth did taste questionable earlier and i m not sure why did you eat anything weird no i did well i had wine and lemonade but that s not weird it s not weird at all yeah um do you brush your teeth like during the wait you had a okay so your ex
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Like he was like posturing about how he brushed his teeth.
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No, like he I mean like he would just be he would like do things while he s brushing his teeth and he would keep his mouth closed.
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So it wasn t like a mess and he
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he would just like walk around the house with the toothbrush in his mouth and just like sit with it and like lay down with it in bed with the toothbrush in his mouth.
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And so I would look at that and go, fuck, I ve got to get my shit together.
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And so I got veneers and I started brushing my teeth like religiously 10 minutes at a time, whatever, six minutes or something like that.
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Not 10, 10 is 10 is insane, but you know, all right, let s get into this.
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Flossing.
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I don t do that.
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And I want me to tell you something right now, please.
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I went to the dentist the other day for a cleaning and they said, do you floss?
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And I went, no.
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And I was like all like, you know, shy about it and guilty.
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And then.
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And she was like, you re good.
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You re fine.
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You don t have to like your dentist told you that my one.
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So now I ve never had a dentist in my fucking life.
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Tell me not my dentist, but the what s the other the person that helps the dentist dental assistant, dental assistant or dentist.
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Fuck it.
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Okay, here s a if the dental assistant says you re gonna be fine and then the dentist says you got a floss No, the dentist didn t even say that he didn t even like like say hey make sure you floss when you go like they d like they were just like just brush your teeth and like get in there and like once it s smooth you re good I don t know if you feel like that every time I go to a dent or even a doctor I feel like I m like talking to the assist the assistants doing 97% of the work and the doctor or the dentist comes in looks at the teeth real quick and just dip.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah
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What the fuck is that shit?
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You re the dentist, shouldn t you be doing most of the stuff?
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I think that the dentist, in a way, is like a... they re like a surgeon, almost.
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Like, they re, like, doing the real... the real deal.
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Like, getting in there and taking those... what is that called?
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The root canal.
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Taking those things out of your teeth and redoing your teeth and opening them up and blasting them with crazy shit.
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You ever have, um, you ever, I think they re called tooth tunes.
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Do you know what I m talking about?
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Yeah, I remember that.
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The things that like they would, uh, it would play like a Justin Bieber song.
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Like very Y2K, very early 2000s.
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And it would like, uh, play for two, cause you re, you re apparently supposed to brush your teeth for two whole minutes.
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Now that, another thing I ll admit, and I brush my teeth every day, at least once.
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I don t do it.
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Do you know how long two minutes is?
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It s pretty long.
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It s not long.
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You have to, what you do is you take, so you need like a laptop or something, and then you just like put on music and then you just like daydream while you tooth, while you brush your teeth.
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You daydream?
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What do you dream about when you brush your teeth?
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Is this an I m thinking face or I don t know if I want to say it face?
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Men.
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My voice cracked when I said that.
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That s, that s really sweet.
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Men.
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You dream about men when you brush your teeth.
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Yeah, sometimes.
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That s really sweet.
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Sometimes.
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That s really nice.
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That would be the, if somebody, how much they, how much they what?
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How much they annoy me.
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Why do men annoy you?
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I don t know.
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It s like why, why they annoy anyone.
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I love men.
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I m sorry.
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I m just kidding.
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Move on.
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What were you going to say?
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What were you going to say?
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Um, what was I going to say?
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I was going to say, if somebody told me they were thinking about me while brushing their teeth, I would be flattered.
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Yeah.
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But if they were, if somebody told me they were brushing their teeth, thinking about how annoying I was.
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Yeah.
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You think about life and you think about what you want when you brush your teeth.
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It s like right before you fall asleep It s like you lay in bed and you like think about a thing and then you slowly fall asleep It s like the same with brushing your teeth.
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You do it for a full two minutes.
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What do you do in the shower?
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What do I do in the shower?
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Yeah.
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Like, when you shower, like, do you think about shit?
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I don t have a shower right now where I can do this, but normally I sit down.
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Really?
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Every time I can, I will sit down in the shower and I ll let the water pour over me and it ll just be like a...
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It s very meditative.
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Do you not sit down in the shower?
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Um, I don t because it s different when there s like balls Nothing can get into your balls because there s no like hole there like if you I don t have balls So like if I sit if you re afraid if you sit down in the shower, I m getting athletes pussy you re getting So I can t I can t sit on the can you get a
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a vaginal infection from sitting down in the tub?
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Absolutely.
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Oh, in the tub, in a tub.
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Yeah, but if you re at home and you have a trusted tub that you know does not have any vagina bacteria.
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Well, that s different.
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That s different if it s a tub.
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Some showers have a bench in it.
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And something about that puts me off.
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I don t like the vibe of, like, seat in the shower.
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You re afraid you re going to catch something?
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I d rather sit down on the ground, which would be the tub.
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Yeah.
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I d rather be like this, because then you see I m angled in such a way.
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You re like, you re like cradling yourself.
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Right?
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And that s me in the shower.
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I wonder sometimes if it s a, like, is that like a depressed person thing to do, to sit down in the shower?
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You think that it is, but really it s just like quite a nice feeling to like be, it s almost like there s rain.
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Yeah.
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It feels rain-like.
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It s like a simulation of rain.
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Yeah.
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It s sad, but it s cool.
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It s fine.
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Um, do you ever, do you ever pee in the shower?
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Absolutely.
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All the time.
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I piss on my legs every day.
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Yeah, me too.
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Yeah.
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Do you ever feel guilty?
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Like, why am I doing this?
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This is a bad thing to do.
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I feel guilty of like, like if I m staying at a friend s house and I piss in the shower, I feel guilty.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I don t.
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Does that say something about me?
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Does that mean that I m like a bad person?
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I mean, if I had a friend, probably not.
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If I had like any of my, for anyone who, anyone who wants to can piss in my shower, I don t care.
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Yeah.
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That s why I wouldn t care if somebody peed in my shower.
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I had a guy call into the show once who said that he...
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He said, I pee in the shower, but I know everyone pees in the shower, but my thing is I only pee in the shower.
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Like, like, he ll, like, if he s, like, at someone s house... He holds it?
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No, no, no, no, like, like, like, if he s at someone s house, and he s like, hold on, I have to go to the bathroom, he goes to the bathroom and pees in the shower.
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Why the fuck would he do that?
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I don t, I have no idea.
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He definitely should be calling you about that issue, because that s, that s an issue.
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Um, I don t know what I told him, but, uh...
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Yeah, I think I ve started peeing in the shower every time I take a shower.
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Yeah, you should.
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But then... But then I ll pee in the shower, and then I sit down in the shower, and I m like, wait a minute, now I m sitting in... You piss, then you sit down immediately after?
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Or do you wait for the yellow to disappear?
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I wait for the yellow to disappear.
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Okay.
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Sometimes.
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Yeah.
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I m gonna get like, I m gonna get a... Sometimes?
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I m gonna get athlete s butthole.
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Athlete s ball sack.
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You can t get an infection in your booty hole, it s a booty hole.
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You haven t seen that movie?
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What movie is it?
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It s with Tiffany Haddish and Jada Pinkett Smith.
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I feel like there s no science to that.
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What is it called, girl?
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It s called Ladies Having Fun.
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I don t know what it s called, but the movie is Ladies Having Fun.
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You can get all kinds of infections in your butthole.
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No, you can t.
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Google it right now.
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No, you can t Google.
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Can you get an infection in your asshole?
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I m gonna actually do that Can you get an Infection In your Asshole Anal yeast infections are a common
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fungal infection caused by a yeast called I Should have been had that at one point in my life.
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I have not gotten that sorry to Tiffany Haddish intense inch itching sensation around your anus called Oh pruritus Ani
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But don t be alarmed.
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Treatments include antifungal creams, ointments, and suppositories.
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And you can prevent anal yeast infec- This- I don t know why they wrote this.
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This is redundant.
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They said you can prevent anal yeast infections by keeping your perianal area clean and dry, which probably includes not sitting in piss.
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Yeah, probably, but- but- but-
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I m not a doctor, but that s bullshit.
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You cannot get an infection in your asshole.
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I don t care what Google says.
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Hey, you want to take a phone call?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Is anything standing out to you?
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Yeah, I kind of like Marco.
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Marco?
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Let s talk to Marco.
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Marco?
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Marco.
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Yes.
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Hi.
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What s up, baby?
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Not much, not much.
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I actually just, uh, I just got done closing the store, my word.
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So, hi.
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What s up, man?
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How s life?
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Oh, not too bad.
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Pretty good so far.
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Pretty chill, you know.
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Vibin  here, you know.
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Chillin .
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Depressed.
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Yeah.
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Why are you depressed?
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I m just kidding.
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No, I m alright.
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just a lot of stuff happening, home life, but, you know, things are going pretty okay so far though.
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Um, can we, well, I guess I ll let you say it in your own words.
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What is it that you wanted to talk about with us today, Marco?
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Okay.
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So, um, I was talking to, I actually want to talk about, uh, something with one of my best friends I have done.
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Uh, one of my best friends, I still talk to him to this day, but,
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He actually, uh, we actually did stuff together, you know, like, uh, you know, right now I m a, I m a, I m a, I m a straight man, you know, I m a straight young man.
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And, uh, I have a girlfriend now, but I have a best friend that, you know, me and him did stuff together, you know, a couple of times, you know, you
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I know there are times whenever he would grab my crotch in the middle of the smith s store.
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There are times whenever he would- That s cool.
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There was a time- Cool, man.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There was a time whenever he was- We were- What was it?
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We were in a row.
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We were driving in his car one time, and then out of nowhere, he just starts grabbing my crotch again, and he was like, oh, your balls are so full.
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Oh my god.
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Or, oh, you re- That s great.
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He was like, and I was just like, I kind of was just like, Oh, okay.
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Like normally I normally dances like that.
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But, but, but I, I,
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Cool, man.
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You don t want to hear the end of that story.
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If he really wanted to discuss that issue, he would have not described how full his balls were.
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He wasn t describing how full his balls were.
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He was describing somebody else describing how full his balls were.
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Well, right.
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No, but like, whatever.
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Still, like he would have, I don t know, maybe I m more of like a reserved person sometimes.
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But I think he would have maybe gone about that differently if he was being dead ass serious.
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You think he was- wait, do you like- I think he was like- Do you think he was playing it up or do you think he was straight lying?
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I think he was fucking around or he was getting off on like telling us this publicly.
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Really?
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You think so?
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Yeah, a little bit.
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I don t- I m gonna respectfully disagree.
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I don t think he was doing that.
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That s fine.
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That s fine.
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But- But you do- you have- I ve relinquished upon you ultimate skipping power.
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I don t know.
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I don t know.
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Something about it.
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Just being like, yeah.
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And then he grabbed my nuts and he was like, fuck, your balls are so... Something about that.
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Does anything else around here look exciting to you?
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Yeah, let me see.
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Hit.
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Wait.
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I kind of up up up up um kind kind of yeah what are you thinking Ryan Ryan yeah okay cool let s talk to Ryan hello
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Hello?
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Hi, Ryan.
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Hello.
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What s up, Ryan?
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What do you want to talk about today?
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What s up?
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Wow.
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I can t believe I m on.
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Wow.
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What s up?
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I guess I told the screener... Damn, yeah.
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I m really nervous right now.
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Don t be.
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Take your time, man.
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If you don t feel comfortable doing it, don t... Don t worry about it.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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Take your time.
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So, oh yeah.
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So I guess, um, yeah, I, I wanted to talk about, uh, like a couple of years ago, my dad died.
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I don t know why I m laughing, but, um, so, um, and I ve been like doing really well since, and it s just interesting.
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Like I think about like,
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a lot of people I know, or like, some people I know who when they re like, one of their parents passed away, they kind of like, went into like a, like a dark thing.
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But I m like, it s happened to me.
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Like, it s happened in my life now.
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And I m like, I kind of just kind of just chilling.
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I don t know.
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I just thought it was interesting.
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Hmm.
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Was it, is there anything that you wanted to talk about regarding, because I, it said that, pull that up.
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Something about your cousins, or?
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Or.
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Oh, you picked the wrong one.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, this is what he said.
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Oh, I see, I see.
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Okay, okay, okay, okay.
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Sorry, my eyesight is kind of fucked.
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Well, I guess I ll ask you this, Ryan.
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Why do you feel like you re chilling so hard?
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Why do you feel like you re feeling good?
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There s nothing wrong with feeling good, I don t think.
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Do you feel bad for feeling good?
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Yeah, that s a good question.
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I ve thought about that a little bit.
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I guess, like I said, I ve been around some people
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And they re like, you know, like their dad passed away.
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And like, he was like someone I used to know.
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Yeah.
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And yeah, it like, it like really fucked him up.
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Yeah, but you feel like you re handling it well.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And it s, I guess it s just interesting thinking about like, someone else going through that and witnessing it and obviously like being there for him and, you know,
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Um, yeah, it s just interesting, like, what s up?
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Sorry.
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I was just, I was saying like, there s a lot of feelings that come with, with something that, um, uh, kind of that big, you know?
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So I think, um, yeah, you know, I, I haven t had, I, that hasn t happened to me, but I, yeah, I mean,
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It s valid and I think you should always strive to feel better and just push forward.
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I think that that s kind of... Yeah.
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I think you kind of got it.
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You kind of got it down.
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Like, I think, you know, but I think the guilt comes, comes with with your situation.
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Typically, so and you know, yeah, I mean, it s it s good that you feel good.
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It is good that you feel good unless you had some sort of
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some sort of issue, like, like, I don t know, you know, it s, it s just good that you re pushing forward, period.
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So there s really... Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, like, I don t know, it s obviously been, you know, I felt, I felt sad and have thought about it, you know, since, of course, you know, yeah.
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But like, you know, it s always been like, when I do, when I do, it s like, pretty positive.
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Like, I m just thinking about like,
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You know, I m like late, like sniper in on the good stuff, you know?
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And I m like, yeah, you know, he was cool.
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Did you guys, did you guys have a good relationship?
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Yeah.
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I d say, I d say like through it, it was pretty good.
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There was, there was also like some not good stuff, but like,
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And I think that kind of goes into how I ve felt since he hasn t been around too.
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It s really interesting.
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There s less tension.
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But also, I loved him to death.
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He was cool as fuck.
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I think that it sounds like you have the tools to deal with a situation like this in a high stress, in a high stress situation, your friend may not have known how to deal with this.
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And not everybody knows how to deal with this when this happens.
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It s very, it s different with everyone.
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And I think you were just able to, you had some sort of mechanism that allowed you to push through.
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And that s a blessing.
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Yeah, I d say I m, yeah, I do have that.
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I feel like I ve, I don t know.
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And also, yeah, I don t know, just witnessing a lot of stuff.
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And then I m like, okay, this might happen to me at some point.
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And then it does.
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And I m like, okay, I feel kind of prepared, you know, pretty prepared somehow.
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But like, yeah.
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Yeah, you re right.
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And, and, and, you know, the person I knew that where that happened, and I was like, you know, pretty close to them in their life.
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It was, you know, we were all we were like, 20.
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And I m, you know, that was 10 years ago now.
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Yeah.
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Like in that area.
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So I don t know, it makes sense.
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And I, you know, that is also valid, too.
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It s just weird.
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Like having, witnessing it happening to me now, you know, or having it have happened in the past now to me.
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And I m like, huh, I m still out here kicking and I m just moving, you know, it s just weird, but cool.
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And I don t, I m not sensing, I m not even sensing that you do, but I don t, I don t think you should feel guilty about that.
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Yeah, there s an there s an uneasiness.
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Yeah, it s just a weird thing I think about.
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Yeah, there s an uneasiness or an unsureness about it.
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Like, do I act this way?
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Do I do this?
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And should I feel this way?
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But I think that that bottom line, it s about, it s about overcoming any sort of that kind of that kind of feeling and it s and that it s also okay to have those feelings.
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As long as they re balanced to, you know, and I mean, to some degree,
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Um, you know, when it becomes imbalanced and you feel it and you know, you need answers, you know, ask.
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And, and, um, that s kind of, I don t know.
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That s how I view it.
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I also think like, knowing that you loved him and he probably loved you, he would love to see that you re okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You re doing good.
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You know?
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That s the great part about it.
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You know?
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Oh yeah.
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How you feeling right now, Will?
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I got hit.
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Hell yeah.
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I m feeling pretty good, Mr. Gecko.
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Hell yeah.
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What are you doing right now?
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Where are you?
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I m just... I m just in my apartment, just chillin .
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I m just sittin  on my couch.
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I just ate a... the remainder of some popcorn.
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It was this... cinnamon... cinnamon bun popcorn.
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Hell yeah.
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That sounds awesome.
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That s about it.
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Do you ever eat popchips?
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Popcorners?
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Popchips?
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Popcorners.
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Popcorner?
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Popcorner.
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Are you gonna say popcorner?
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Yeah.
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The place yeah, that is literally what I have right now Yeah, that s with the cinnamon the and they taste like okay put put that on vanilla ice cream.
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Oh My god It s just like a place that you go to no, no, it s a brand popcorn like a place pop corners.
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Oh
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Oh, it s different from pot chips.
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crunch but like the health vibe the health version that fucking rocks yeah it s amazing you can t stop though that s the problem put that put that bitch in a bowl with some with some with some protein shake but it has to be chocolate I mean it could be you could try vanilla if you re feeling I don t know I don t trust that crazy I don t trust that
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I have cookies and cream ice cream in my freezer right now.
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I hate that.
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What kind of cookies and cream ice cream is it?
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Is it Ben and Jerry s?
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I think it s just like, uh, you know, like Kroger, Kroger brand.
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Hell yeah.
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the good the good cheap kind you know nice that s that s crazy you literally pinpointed the fucking popcorn i was eating that s that s crazy yeah because it that s like the only cinnamon popcorn that s worth it i don t know why in my head i thought you had like the little white like the icing
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I thought you had like a bucket.
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I thought you had a bucket with like cheddar, caramel, cinnamon.
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Yeah, no.
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I ve gotten one of those.
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This is like a bag.
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There s some snacks that I want to put you onto.
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I don t know the name of them.
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What, how would you, can you describe them?
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They re tiny, little, little, like, patty, circular, like, rice crackers.
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Uh, rice, uh, Quaker, Quaker oats, fuckin  rice cake, cinnamon shit.
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Uh, Quaker, Quaker... No.
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Rice?
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It s, it s birthday cake flavored... What?
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Birthday cake.
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Like, funfetti flavored, like, drizzled over with, like, little rainbow sprinkles on top of a rice cake.
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That sounds awesome.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh my god.
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Gosh darn it.
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I need to go to the fucking grocery store and get me some snacks.
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Dude.
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Best vibe.
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You know what?
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Best snack.
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I m feeling like everything s gonna be alright.
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Yeah, me too.
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You?
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I think so too.
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Hell yeah.
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I think so.
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Will, is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
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Doja Gek.
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Gek.
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And I love you.
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I love you both.
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This is crazy.
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I m talking to y all.
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Everybody, I love you.
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I love you.
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Take care, buddy.
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Bada bada bada bing bada bing bada boom.
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Bye, Ryan.
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Bada bada boom bada bing.
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See ya.
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See ya.
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Bye.
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How you doing?
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Good.
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This is so relaxing.
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Probably because I ve had a half of a fucking- a 40.
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No, I haven t even had half of the 40, honestly.
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I said that earlier and I did not.
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I was like not even close to that.
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Um, Doja Cat, thank you very, very, very much for coming on the show.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for hanging out.
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This is very cool.
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Uh, sincerely, I really appreciate you coming on.
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Um, is there anything that you would like to, A, plug or talk about career-wise and then B, just say in general and final parting thoughts, feelings, sentiments?
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yeah uh if anyone out there feels like they re struggling with with figuring out maybe who they are or with their creativity in some form just fucking
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just do whatever you want and stop listening to other people unless you really trust their opinion and like I mean really really really really trust their opinion and you know that they re dope uh other than that yeah love yourself and
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That s it.
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Oh, what else do I have?
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Oh, I have my European leg of my tour coming up.
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I m going to be going to all the peons.
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Uh, just a lot of peons.
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There s a lot of places going to London.
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I m not going to Germany.
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Unfortunately, I am not going to Ireland.
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Oh, am I going to Ireland?
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I don t know.
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I don t know a lot of things off the top of my head when it comes to like, you know, the plan of
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Yeah, things changed around actually, too, I think.
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I m touring with Hemlock Springs, and she s fantastic.
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She s an amazing talent.
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And what else?
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That s kind of it.
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Oh, I have a thing coming out.
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I have also a deluxe Scarlet
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Ooh, what s in the deluxe?
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Scarlet, it s called.
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It s S2.
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Claude Frollo is the name of the deluxe, but it s just like an eight song, seven song, something like that, roughly.
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Okay, I m gonna this might sound stupid.
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It s Claude Frollo the guy from yes back of Notre Dame Yeah, why did you name it after Claude Frollo?
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Um, because he is like a is he a tyrant?
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He s just like of He s like, uh, I feel like it connects to the story of Scarlet to some in some way and I
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if you look up his personality traits and like who he is and his story you ll understand kind of the whole the whole connection there s like a control aspect like he just abuses his power and his control and it s just like dogmatic and like is just a total cunt and
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All Esmeralda wanted to do was just be creative and sing and dance but nasty old Claude Frollo is just
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having a field day on her and just being awful and a bad guy and a stinky man and this isn t about anyone in like there s not anything very personal happening to me with one person Claude Frollo doesn t depict a single person in my life it s like a it s like a metaphor for the people that
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creatives endure on a kind of a, yeah, on like a daily basis and like a bigger picture, a bigger scale.
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And that s kind of what that is.
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It s a if you just read up on him, it s kind of it makes sense with the other stuff that I was doing on the other album.
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The music isn t as angry on this one, though.
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check out that song hellfire you know the one he goes fire hellfire yes yeah oh my god yeah that s a great song um oh you re also headlining coachella soon um i am i m headlining code oh
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I think we re good.
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I thought the fire alarm was coming.
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Yeah, you summoned a fire by singing that.
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I did!
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You did.
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Yeah, I have Coachella.
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I m headlining Coachella.
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And that s going to be fun times.
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Get your booties down there.
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Let s do some dancing.
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And yeah, you ll enjoy it, I think.
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I hope.
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Doja Cat, you re a legend.
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You re the voice of a generation.
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I m a big fan.
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Thank you.
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And I appreciate you coming on.
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But he s not really an expert.