0
SPEAKER_01
The Joe Rogan Experience.
0
SPEAKER_01
I m ready when you are.
0
SPEAKER_01
Matt s already on the roll.
0
SPEAKER_01
I feel like we missed the joy that is Matt Serra.
0
SPEAKER_01
We need a name for this order of unruly gentlemen.
0
SPEAKER_01
We need a name for us.
0
SPEAKER_01
I want to think about it.
0
SPEAKER_01
This is Matt s first zen, by the way.
0
SPEAKER_01
And it s a six milligram.
0
SPEAKER_01
That s a heavy dose.
0
SPEAKER_02
But I m a caffeine guy.
0
SPEAKER_01
I love caffeine.
0
SPEAKER_01
That s a lot like caffeine, but like even more.
0
SPEAKER_01
Really?
0
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0
SPEAKER_02
I seen it at 7-Eleven.
0
SPEAKER_01
I know Tucker Carlson takes it.
0
SPEAKER_01
He loves them.
0
SPEAKER_02
He got so excited that I had one, he s like, why do you have them too?
0
SPEAKER_02
It s not a dip though.
0
SPEAKER_01
No, it s just a little pouch.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s not actual tobacco.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s just the nicotine chemical.
0
SPEAKER_01
Nicotine chemical nicotine is a chemical is neuroprotective it shows there s been studies that have done that it shows some sort of a connection with Helping ward off Alzheimer s I believe if I know if that s true.
0
SPEAKER_01
I might have made that nicotine.
0
SPEAKER_01
I might have made that up Yes Nicotine as a chemical is not bad for you.
0
SPEAKER_01
What s bad for is the delivery system of sex
0
SPEAKER_01
Particularly cigarettes if you buy like cigarettes with chemicals in them, so there s like there s those spirits They have shit in them, too
0
SPEAKER_01
No, but I think it s different.
0
SPEAKER_00
Interesting.
0
SPEAKER_00
I thought they were just supposed to be a paper in the tobacco.
0
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I don t think it is.
0
SPEAKER_01
Oh, those liars.
0
SPEAKER_01
Okay, nicotine for Alzheimer s disease.
0
SPEAKER_01
There s no evidence from randomized controlled trials to support the use of nicotine as a treatment for Alzheimer s disease.
0
SPEAKER_01
So what was the thing that ... Wasn t there something about a connection between the way nicotine works and some sort of ... There s something I read.
0
SPEAKER_02
My thing is, if I start with the nicotine- Go back to that, please, Jamie.
0
SPEAKER_01
It says, while nicotine itself doesn t cause dementia, the act of smoking cigarettes may be linked to an increased risk of developing dementia as you age.
0
SPEAKER_01
The harmful substances that cigarettes smoke can lead to inflammation, factors linked to the onset of Alzheimer s disease.
0
SPEAKER_01
I know that nicotine is a medication that they use sometimes for heart patients.
0
SPEAKER_01
So find out what that is.
0
SPEAKER_01
Fuck that is.
0
SPEAKER_01
The whole thing is the cigarettes.
0
SPEAKER_01
Do you ever see that movie with Russell Crowe, The Insider?
0
SPEAKER_01
I think it s about the dude who works for the cigarette companies.
0
SPEAKER_01
He s a chemist, and he s talking about all the shit they throw in the cigarettes to make them super hyper addictive.
0
SPEAKER_02
So it s actually not the nicotine that makes it addictive?
0
SPEAKER_01
Well, nicotine is addictive as well.
0
SPEAKER_01
Nicotine is addictive as well.
0
SPEAKER_01
And then they just super juice it up, according to this movie.
0
SPEAKER_02
Before you get me addicted to these things.
0
SPEAKER_02
If I put this in my mouth, am I gonna... What are you gonna be, scratching my fucking tyrone?
0
SPEAKER_02
If I start it and I m gonna... Hey man, Sarah, I do nicotine.
0
SPEAKER_02
If I m an everyday... What is this called again?
0
SPEAKER_02
Zin.
0
SPEAKER_02
If I m an everyday zin guy, if I stop it, am I gonna be like... No, I stopped it the other day for two days.
0
SPEAKER_01
I said, I wanna see what it s like.
0
SPEAKER_01
And?
0
SPEAKER_01
Nothing.
0
SPEAKER_01
Did you wait three days?
0
SPEAKER_02
What about four days?
0
SPEAKER_01
I didn t have an itch, no.
0
SPEAKER_01
I would think you would have got it earlier instead of later.
0
SPEAKER_01
I like them.
0
SPEAKER_02
Are you an everyday zinner?
0
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, not every day.
0
SPEAKER_01
I take days off.
0
SPEAKER_01
But the thing is, I don t know if that s my biology.
0
SPEAKER_01
I can just do things and stop doing them.
0
SPEAKER_01
I can t.
0
SPEAKER_02
There s a reason why I never tried fucking cocaine or anything.
0
SPEAKER_01
I d be out of my fucking mind.
0
SPEAKER_01
I haven t either.
0
SPEAKER_02
I had I had these two pizzeria bosses and one of them just just be just last week Had to get a new spine, and now he s he s on a ventilator.
0
SPEAKER_02
I don t want to get emotional, but anyway He s pretty I think he might be dead by now, but it s very depressing but anyway
0
SPEAKER_02
I was 17 years old, and I used to deliver pizzas for these guys, Nicky and Louie, and they were funny.
0
SPEAKER_02
They remind me a little bit of a Joey Diaz.
0
SPEAKER_02
They were just smoking cigarettes.
0
SPEAKER_02
They were very funny.
0
SPEAKER_02
But they told me, they go, if you try it once.
0
SPEAKER_02
They used to have a cocaine problem, but they cleaned up.
0
SPEAKER_02
And he goes, Matt, you try it once, and you re fucked.
0
SPEAKER_02
And I, wait, sold, and I got scared.
0
SPEAKER_02
I got fucking scared, you know?
0
SPEAKER_02
So, and I knew that, and I ve been in situations, obviously, I mean, we all have, like, where it s like, talk about pure pressure, man.
0
SPEAKER_02
I don t know, I was like, fuck it, you know?
0
SPEAKER_02
And it s like, you know, you gotta be that guy, you gotta be like, ah.
0
SPEAKER_01
I got real lucky when I was growing up that I had friends that liked it, that were good friends and told me to never do it.
0
SPEAKER_01
And then I also had a friend whose cousin sold it.
0
SPEAKER_01
And when he sold it, he went from being this like regular dude to being like a vampire.
0
SPEAKER_01
And he just stayed in the attic.
0
SPEAKER_01
He had an attic apartment with his girlfriend and they just did coke and watched movies and sold coke.
0
SPEAKER_01
And he lost a ton of weight.
0
SPEAKER_01
He started getting real gaunt and skinny looking.
0
SPEAKER_01
And I was like, yo, it s like they got bit by a vampire.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s like they got bit by a vampire.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s like you re not the same person again.
0
SPEAKER_01
Now your whole mission in his life is getting coke.
0
SPEAKER_01
That s your whole mission.
0
SPEAKER_01
Everything else is out the window.
0
SPEAKER_01
All that success and love and family and friendship and dinners with friends, fuck all that.
0
SPEAKER_01
You gotta get coke.
0
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s not the way to live.
0
SPEAKER_00
You just throw this thing in your mouth like that.
0
SPEAKER_01
I just stick it between my cheek and my gum.
0
SPEAKER_01
That s it.
0
SPEAKER_01
I m in but you know what else I found that I really like is these this I don t know this is I should kind of not be talking about this because these motherfuckers took the name that we use for our new tropic which is oh but it s a these are like a new tropic pouch
0
SPEAKER_01
So this doesn t have any nicotine in it.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s a bunch of nootropics, which I really like nootropics.
0
SPEAKER_01
Maybe they didn t steal our name, but it s kind of close.
0
SPEAKER_01
AlphaBrain was one of the first.
0
SPEAKER_01
The first one that I ever found out was NeuroOne.
0
SPEAKER_01
Remember that guy Romanowski?
0
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, Romanowski, who was a football player, obviously got a lot of head impacts and he was having problems with his memory, so he devised a supplement.
0
SPEAKER_01
It s really good.
0
SPEAKER_01
That was the first one I found out about.
0
SPEAKER_02
And I m sorry, what did you say, Zaynab, again?
0
SPEAKER_02
This one?
0
SPEAKER_02
It s got a bunch of different nootropics.
0
SPEAKER_02
No, the word you just said.
0
SPEAKER_02
Nootropics.
0
SPEAKER_02
Now, not for the people at home.
0
SPEAKER_02
Not me.
0
SPEAKER_02
What exactly is a nootropic?
0
SPEAKER_01
It s the building block for human neurochemistry.
0
SPEAKER_01
So it s things like acetylcholine.
0
SPEAKER_01
There s a bunch of different ones.
0
SPEAKER_01
If you can show the ingredients for alpha brain, if you could.
0
SPEAKER_01
There s lutein.
0
SPEAKER_01
There s a bunch of different things that have been shown to increase cognitive performance So we actually did randomized controlled trials at the Boston Center for memory for alpha brain We sponsored two of them and it showed an increase in verbal memory your ability to retain words Which I ve really find like I take it every time I do a UFC.
0
SPEAKER_01
I take alpha brain always Helps my memory.
0
SPEAKER_01
Yes.
0
SPEAKER_01
I m talking about fights from
0
SPEAKER_01
And you d be bringing up Zingers.
0
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, you d be bringing up Zingers that everybody forgot about.
0
SPEAKER_01
I d be like, yeah, I did.
0
SPEAKER_01
I got some Pete Spratt information for you.
0
SPEAKER_01
You know?
0
SPEAKER_01
But it does help.
0
SPEAKER_01
OK, so.
0
SPEAKER_01
Alpha-GPC, herpersia, vitamin B6.
0
SPEAKER_01
Theanine is a really good one, too.
0
SPEAKER_01
Theanine is also in another thing I really like, which is NeuroGum.
0
SPEAKER_01
Not a sponsor.
0
SPEAKER_01
I like to use that.
0
SPEAKER_01
Yep, I have these right here, NeuroMints.
0
SPEAKER_01
I like these.
0
SPEAKER_01
Not a sponsor, just good, good product.
0
SPEAKER_01
Vitamin B6, obviously good for you.
0
SPEAKER_01
So all these things, what it s shown is, if you take these things, it s just like we know that there s certain nutrients that your body needs.
0
SPEAKER_01
We know we need vitamin D.
0
SPEAKER_01
And if you re not getting it from the sun, you can supplement it.
0
SPEAKER_01
There s a bunch of different things you can supplement, but you can supplement the things that your brain needs to work at the best level.
0
SPEAKER_01
Speaking of menstrual.
0
SPEAKER_00
The amount of supplements I take, you would go crazy.
0
SPEAKER_00
Oh, I would not.
0
SPEAKER_00
Morning stuff, night stuff.
0
SPEAKER_01
If there was one dude in this room, who s got the supplements?
0
SPEAKER_02
Jocko mocha some shit.
0
SPEAKER_02
What are you on?
0
SPEAKER_00
What s that?
0
SPEAKER_00
What kind of protein?
0
SPEAKER_00
I do have some Jocko s molk at the house.
0
SPEAKER_01
I buy that shit by the case.
0
SPEAKER_00
I have the new one.
0
SPEAKER_00
Have you tried Mark Bell stuff?
0
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, Mar-Bell stuff s great.
0
SPEAKER_00
The steak shape, that s great.
0
SPEAKER_00
I love that shit.
0
SPEAKER_00
That s what I ve been into lately.
0
SPEAKER_01
But what I like about the Jockos is they re already made.
0
SPEAKER_01
I m lazy.
0
SPEAKER_00
I gotta run out the door.
0
SPEAKER_01
I grab two of those bitches, I got 60 grams of protein.
0
SPEAKER_00
Bam.
0
SPEAKER_00
So you don t get the pre-made ones?
0
SPEAKER_00
No, I get the powder and the main reason too is because I like to put it in my oatmeal too, so I ll mix it up like that.
0
SPEAKER_01
Well, I m not a goat, so I don t be eating oatmeal.
0
SPEAKER_01
Like a fucking goat.
0
SPEAKER_01
I m eating bacon and eggs.
0
SPEAKER_01
What are you eating?
0
SPEAKER_02
I m fucking back on, I m back to being gluten-free now.
0
SPEAKER_01
Isn t it funny that when people choke, people used to eat oatmeal if they were starving.
0
SPEAKER_01
Those were people that were like poor people that were just starving to death working in the fields.
0
SPEAKER_01
And now we re like, oh, granola.
0
SPEAKER_01
Eat some bacon, you fucking idiot.
0
SPEAKER_01
Get some eggs, just eat a dozen eggs and some bacon.
0
SPEAKER_00
I hope you don t think I miss many meals.
0
SPEAKER_00
No, you ain t missing any meals.
0
SPEAKER_02
You mind if I grab some coffee?
0
SPEAKER_02
Get in there, it s for you.
0
SPEAKER_02
I seen a um since the last time we spoke
1
SPEAKER_02
Remember the last time we were talking about my ass not to get anything fucked up?
1
SPEAKER_02
Remember we talked about my ass?
1
SPEAKER_02
What a segue to the folks at home.
1
SPEAKER_02
A refresher.
1
SPEAKER_02
I don t want to leave everybody on a cliffhanger.
1
SPEAKER_02
The last we spoke, I was supposed to take a shit in a box to go to the lab.
1
SPEAKER_02
Right.
1
SPEAKER_02
It was, I don t know what it was.
1
SPEAKER_02
I just never did it.
1
SPEAKER_02
And then I finally was like, you know what, fuck it, I m doing it.
1
SPEAKER_02
And then I changed insurance, so I had to get a different doctor.
1
SPEAKER_02
Anyway, I seen a holistic doctor, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
So I ended up doing it.
1
SPEAKER_02
Like a witch doctor?
1
SPEAKER_02
Dude, now listen, I was a little nervous too.
1
SPEAKER_00
What is a holistic doctor?
1
SPEAKER_00
Is that a real thing?
1
SPEAKER_02
Is that a real thing?
1
SPEAKER_02
Well, listen, I m gonna find out.
1
SPEAKER_02
Thank you, brother.
1
SPEAKER_02
It s Mike G.
1
SPEAKER_02
from Huntington, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
Somebody recommended him.
1
SPEAKER_02
I know what you re thinking.
1
SPEAKER_02
I was thinking the same thing.
1
SPEAKER_02
It s gonna be, do you have any sweeteners?
1
SPEAKER_00
We don t.
1
SPEAKER_02
Nah, I m a, look at me, prima donna.
1
SPEAKER_02
Do we have any out there?
1
SPEAKER_00
No, no, I don t wanna be that guy.
1
SPEAKER_00
Jamie, sit down, please.
1
SPEAKER_00
We got a guy, what do you want?
1
SPEAKER_00
Like Splenda?
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, Splenda, Stevia.
1
SPEAKER_02
He s like, I don t wanna be that guy.
1
SPEAKER_02
Splenda, Stevia, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1
SPEAKER_02
Stevia.
1
SPEAKER_02
He don t need that mint cream.
1
SPEAKER_01
Jamie, sit down.
1
SPEAKER_01
There s Stevia.
1
SPEAKER_02
Listen, first of all, it s hard to get a, it s hard to get an appointment with a lot of these fucking doctors, you know?
1
SPEAKER_02
Especially the holistic ones.
1
SPEAKER_02
They re all doing voodoo.
1
SPEAKER_02
That wasn t his, for some reason.
1
SPEAKER_02
A lot of ceremonies.
1
SPEAKER_02
My wife, you know, my wife, my wife started by trying to book these doctors and couldn t get it.
1
SPEAKER_02
So then somebody recommended this guy, all right?
1
SPEAKER_02
So I was expecting a fucking half a hippie sipping wheatgrass.
1
SPEAKER_02
I didn t know what to expect.
1
SPEAKER_02
It was a guy who looked like John Rollo, 59, strong guy, nice guy.
1
SPEAKER_02
He was telling me that a lot of these, they just want to put you on meds.
1
SPEAKER_02
They don t look at what caused the problem.
1
SPEAKER_02
They want to treat the problem.
1
SPEAKER_02
They want to treat the problem.
1
SPEAKER_02
He s like, I want to turn back time with you and shit like that.
1
SPEAKER_02
I don t know.
1
SPEAKER_02
Nice guy.
1
SPEAKER_00
Like a Cher song.
1
SPEAKER_02
Like a Cher song.
1
SPEAKER_02
I sort of understand.
1
SPEAKER_00
Back down!
1
SPEAKER_02
She was pretty, but she had no ass.
1
SPEAKER_00
She did not have to have an ass back then.
1
SPEAKER_00
She snuck in under the wire.
1
SPEAKER_00
She s still kind of hot.
1
SPEAKER_00
I d smash.
1
SPEAKER_00
Back in the day she was gorgeous.
1
SPEAKER_00
She looks pretty good today.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, that s what I m saying.
1
SPEAKER_00
Really, right now.
1
SPEAKER_02
The sunny and sheer days.
1
SPEAKER_00
She was hot.
1
SPEAKER_00
That s wild that he went on, what did he become, a senator?
1
SPEAKER_00
I think he was the mayor of his, like, whatever city he lived in.
1
SPEAKER_00
Clint Eastwood became the mayor of Carmel, California.
1
SPEAKER_00
But I think Sonny Bono was, like, a senator or something.
1
SPEAKER_00
Wasn t he, Jimmy?
1
SPEAKER_00
Was he a congressman?
1
SPEAKER_00
I knew he got into politics, for sure.
1
SPEAKER_00
But, like, heavy duty into politics.
1
SPEAKER_00
And then he died skiing.
1
SPEAKER_00
Boom!
1
SPEAKER_00
Ran into a tree.
1
SPEAKER_01
That s a motherfucker.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah Kennedy died, too Yeah, one of the Kennedy s nice a way into like real close proximity to a taste the love skiing 16th mayor of Palm Springs, California from 88 to 92 and served as the u.s.
1
SPEAKER_00
Representative for California s 44th district from and from 1995 till his death.
1
SPEAKER_00
He was both He s a Republican
1
SPEAKER_00
I got you, babe, the hippie movement with the fucking bell bottoms and shit.
1
SPEAKER_02
My thing is this, from Ronald Reagan to Sonny Bono, do people like the policies or are they just liking the fucking guy?
1
SPEAKER_02
I was just watching Idiocracy the other day.
1
SPEAKER_02
Oh my lord, it s so good.
1
SPEAKER_01
Still, still.
1
SPEAKER_02
Terry Crews is a great president.
1
SPEAKER_02
Still, so good.
1
SPEAKER_02
It holds up so well.
1
SPEAKER_02
You like the white Terry Crews.
1
SPEAKER_02
He s seeing the council, he s like, yeah, my first wife was taunted.
1
SPEAKER_02
She s a pilot now.
1
SPEAKER_02
No, that movie is fucking great.
1
SPEAKER_02
It s a great movie, man.
1
SPEAKER_02
It s not exactly politically correct, but it s fucking good.
1
SPEAKER_00
It s not at all, but it holds up.
1
SPEAKER_00
You almost couldn t make it today.
1
SPEAKER_00
You can t make any of these.
1
SPEAKER_00
Tropic Thunder.
1
SPEAKER_02
Tropic Thunder would be impossible today.
1
SPEAKER_00
No, you couldn t make that.
1
SPEAKER_00
I gotta watch that again.
1
SPEAKER_00
Impossible today.
1
SPEAKER_02
I haven t watched that in ages.
1
SPEAKER_00
Bro.
1
SPEAKER_01
Great movie.
1
SPEAKER_00
That s a great movie, man.
1
SPEAKER_00
Great movie.
1
SPEAKER_01
That s a great move at Robert Downey jr.
1
SPEAKER_01
Not only was he in blackface, but he was in yellow face memory came out talking to them about Catching Jack black and the rice patties and shit Asian people take it better than anybody.
1
SPEAKER_00
No, I know Asian emojis
1
SPEAKER_02
emojis are all yellow and there s no complaints.
1
SPEAKER_02
Not a single complaint.
1
SPEAKER_00
Asian people just keep working.
1
SPEAKER_00
That s true.
1
SPEAKER_02
They never have a problem.
1
SPEAKER_00
That s what they say.
1
SPEAKER_00
There was legit Asian hate, though, after COVID came out.
1
SPEAKER_00
There was a lot of really dumb people that were just running up to Asian people and hitting them.
1
SPEAKER_02
Hitting them, screaming at them.
1
SPEAKER_02
Especially in New York, a lot of the subways.
1
SPEAKER_00
Crazy.
1
SPEAKER_00
That s crazy.
1
SPEAKER_02
That s where they need people.
1
SPEAKER_00
But that s real.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, that was like violence, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
That wasn t just, you know, talking.
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, it wasn t just like yellow face.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_00
You can get away with yellow face.
1
SPEAKER_00
Nobody fucking says shit.
1
SPEAKER_00
You can dress up like a bumblebee, nobody will freak out.
1
SPEAKER_00
Like when they got that kid, there was a kid who turned out to actually be Native American who had half of his face... Oh, the Chiefs game.
1
SPEAKER_00
So brilliant.
1
SPEAKER_00
He had literally put on war paint of, I think, of the tribe that he s from.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
1
SPEAKER_00
Right?
1
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I m pretty sure.
1
SPEAKER_00
I think it s from the tribe that he s from.
1
SPEAKER_00
One of those websites tried to label it as a fan, a racist fan in black.
1
SPEAKER_00
So they only showed this side of his face where it was dark and the other side of his face was white, which was like this war paint.
1
SPEAKER_00
Oh no.
1
SPEAKER_01
And the kid turned out to be Indian as well.
1
SPEAKER_01
So they got the double.
1
SPEAKER_01
They were wrong twice.
1
SPEAKER_01
People are just so quick to jump the gun.
1
SPEAKER_02
I m sick of this woke shit.
1
SPEAKER_02
And let me tell you, let me tell you loud and clear.
1
SPEAKER_02
I am sick of what they did to fucking Star Wars.
1
SPEAKER_02
They took the shit all over it.
1
SPEAKER_01
They get angry.
1
SPEAKER_02
Listen, I love everybody.
1
SPEAKER_02
I love everybody.
1
SPEAKER_02
I have three daughters.
1
SPEAKER_02
I love strong female characters.
1
SPEAKER_02
Vasquez from fucking Aliens.
1
SPEAKER_02
Oh, yeah.
1
SPEAKER_00
Oh, she was badass.
1
SPEAKER_02
Sigourney Weaver.
1
SPEAKER_02
Linda Hamilton.
1
SPEAKER_00
I ll go all this.
1
SPEAKER_02
Linda Hamilton, Terminator.
1
SPEAKER_02
How about this?
1
SPEAKER_02
There s nothing wrong with making everybody badass.
1
SPEAKER_02
I m facing the wrong guys.
1
SPEAKER_02
Did you guys see Ahsoka?
1
SPEAKER_02
I did.
1
SPEAKER_02
What s Ahsoka?
1
SPEAKER_02
It s a Disney Plus show.
1
SPEAKER_02
It s about a Jedi.
1
SPEAKER_01
There she is.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, Rosario Dawson.
1
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, she s hot.
1
SPEAKER_02
It s a, not to get too geeky on you, but listen.
1
SPEAKER_01
That s too late for that ship.
1
SPEAKER_02
That ship has sailed.
1
SPEAKER_02
I gotta listen.
1
SPEAKER_02
I gotta go.
1
SPEAKER_02
This is the deal.
1
SPEAKER_02
With Ahsoka,
1
SPEAKER_02
It s based basically off of another show, which was an animated show, not to get too nerdy on you.
1
SPEAKER_02
First of all, before you pick on me, George St.
1
SPEAKER_02
Pierre watches these same fucking shows, because I talk to George about this, and we geek the fuck.
1
SPEAKER_02
I go, George, how do we have a fight?
1
SPEAKER_02
He knows more than me about all this shit.
1
SPEAKER_02
He reads the books.
1
SPEAKER_02
But anyway, this show was a cool show, this show Rebels, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
And it s about this young Jedi,
1
SPEAKER_02
Ezra, Ezra, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
So now they re doing a live- Guys, stay with me for two seconds.
1
SPEAKER_02
So now the live action comes out, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
And Ezra, at the end of the series, Ezra fights this guy Thrawn and he goes through another dimension and he leaves a fucking hero.
1
SPEAKER_02
And now he s gonna- Now the next appearance is him live action in this series years later, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
They make him the biggest cuck in the universe, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
This guy was a fucking Jedi, badass in the cartoon.
1
SPEAKER_02
I ll give you a couple instances, right?
1
SPEAKER_02
They find them, they re on the planet.
1
SPEAKER_02
His friend finds him, I forgot her name, but she gives him a fucking, she s like a Mandalorian.
1
SPEAKER_02
She gives him, here, here s a lightsaber, do your thing.
1
SPEAKER_02
Now look, they can t make him look too cool, because he s a dude.
1
SPEAKER_02
They go, hey.
1
SPEAKER_02
He goes, listen, I don t need the lightsaber.
1
SPEAKER_02
the force is my weapon.
1
SPEAKER_02
So already, boo, right there, big boo.
1
Really?
1
SPEAKER_02
The lightsaber, he s surrounded right now, so he s like doing some fucking hippie shit, it s whatever.
1
SPEAKER_02
Next, this gets me now, you ll relate, Dean, you ll relate to this.
1
SPEAKER_02
When you run, listen, now, they have two of these, he s been on this planet, they find them on, they have two of these horses, these alien horses.
1
SPEAKER_02
It s Ahsoka, the Mandalorian chick, and Ezra.
1
SPEAKER_02
So there s three of them riding.
1
SPEAKER_02
On a motorcycle, when there s two guys riding, now the guy in the back, it s called riding bitch.
1
SPEAKER_02
Who s riding bitch?
1
SPEAKER_02
Ezra.
1
SPEAKER_02
Now is that just because, you know, it just happens to be?
1
SPEAKER_02
No.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s like that on purpose.
2
SPEAKER_00
I get it.
2
SPEAKER_00
Am I going with it?
2
SPEAKER_00
Hold on.
2
SPEAKER_01
I believe it on the Z. Here s the thing.
2
SPEAKER_01
You can have both.
2
SPEAKER_01
You can have a strong woman character and a strong man character.
2
SPEAKER_01
Yes.
2
SPEAKER_01
Conan the Barbarian could be riding on the back of a horse with a chick at the reins and no one would question shit.
2
SPEAKER_01
Right.
2
SPEAKER_01
He thinks she s so badass, but imagine, he thinks she s so badass, he lets her, yeah, Red Sonja.
2
SPEAKER_01
Isn t that who he was, he was banging?
2
SPEAKER_01
He s gotta be thanking, he s gotta be humping the chick to get on the back.
2
SPEAKER_00
The warrior lady.
2
SPEAKER_00
Hold on, I disagree, I don t think he s riding bitch.
2
SPEAKER_00
Me neither.
2
SPEAKER_01
As I was saying that, I was like, I can t defend this bitch.
2
SPEAKER_01
Went too deep, too fast.
2
SPEAKER_01
Went too fast!
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you didn t think that out all the way, yeah.
2
SPEAKER_01
Okay, maybe John wick on the back of a motorcycle killing people while his girl drives You wouldn t say John wicks a pussy.
2
SPEAKER_02
Well, you know, you know, he can t very undeniably cannot be a cuck There s a there s a big but this guy was the guy that he s talking about surely was I mean I didn t even think he was a badass in the show Yeah, so it s like
2
SPEAKER_01
Wait a minute, but it s all, who wrote it though?
2
SPEAKER_01
Here s the thing, it s not really Star Wars.
2
SPEAKER_01
It s just this new thing that they use in Star Wars, the Star Wars universe, and Star Wars is Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader, and that s it.
2
SPEAKER_01
It s Obi-Wan Kenobi, it s C-3PO, everything else, you re just stealing my money.
2
SPEAKER_00
The truth.
2
SPEAKER_00
That s pretty much what I think.
2
SPEAKER_00
Listen, right now, Han Solo would be toxic.
2
SPEAKER_00
Han Solo was the fucking PIMP.
2
SPEAKER_00
How about when Han Solo s about to go with the fucking Carbonite?
2
SPEAKER_00
As a kid watching this, as a kid, it s emotional.
2
SPEAKER_00
He s getting lowered into the fucking Carbonite.
2
SPEAKER_00
You don t know if he s gonna survive this thing.
2
SPEAKER_00
Chewie s sitting there upset, fucking Lando s being a bit of a, you know, we re unsure about Lando.
2
SPEAKER_00
And Leia, wait a minute, I love Leia though, he s a badass, but Leia goes to him, I love you.
2
SPEAKER_00
What the fuck does he say back?
2
SPEAKER_00
Watch this, what does he say back?
2
SPEAKER_00
Could you play it or no?
2
SPEAKER_00
Watch this.
2
SPEAKER_01
He says I know, right?
2
SPEAKER_01
Spoilers, Rogan.
2
SPEAKER_03
Watch this, watch this.
2
SPEAKER_00
Look at that first of all, yeah?
2
SPEAKER_00
Watch this.
2
SPEAKER_03
I love you.
2
SPEAKER_00
I know.
2
SPEAKER_00
Yes!
2
SPEAKER_00
Gangster!
2
SPEAKER_00
That s my fucking Star Wars!
2
SPEAKER_00
He doesn t know if he s gonna live!
2
SPEAKER_00
He doesn t- and he does love her, he does.
2
SPEAKER_00
He s the fucking man.
2
SPEAKER_00
I love Han Solo.
2
SPEAKER_00
Hey, Ezra, Ezra, take notes.
2
SPEAKER_01
Matt Serra, former UFC welterweight champion, is also a nerd.
2
SPEAKER_00
A real, full-on, 100%.
2
SPEAKER_00
Full-on nerd.
2
SPEAKER_00
First, can I thank you now?
2
SPEAKER_00
Because listen, this show doesn t come without perks.
2
SPEAKER_00
Listen.
2
SPEAKER_00
I was only geeking out about the VR last time.
2
SPEAKER_00
So all of a sudden, I love that Pop One, I still do, I was just playing it before I got here.
2
SPEAKER_00
Another guy got in touch with me from Caveman Studios, this guy Lon, he goes, look, I love how enthusiastic you are, try this game in beta testing.
2
SPEAKER_00
So, it s not even out yet.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s coming out at the end of the month.
2
SPEAKER_00
Contractor Showdown.
2
SPEAKER_00
Fucking money!
2
SPEAKER_00
I don t play anything but Pop One.
2
SPEAKER_00
Am I getting off the subject?
2
SPEAKER_00
We re just talking about MMA.
2
SPEAKER_00
No, we re talking about... We already got the MMA.
2
SPEAKER_00
Listen, holy shit, it s like...
2
SPEAKER_00
It s like Warzone.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s like Call of Duty Warzone.
2
SPEAKER_00
I love the battle royale format where it s like a squad and then everybody gets brought in together and you gotta take each other out.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s cool.
2
SPEAKER_00
Let s pop one.
2
SPEAKER_00
Technically it s Fortnite, not to sound like a nerd.
2
SPEAKER_00
This shit!
2
SPEAKER_00
Contractor Showdown!
2
SPEAKER_00
Fucking nerdgasm.
2
SPEAKER_00
I love it.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s so much fun.
2
SPEAKER_00
So you re parachuting in?
2
SPEAKER_00
No, listen.
2
SPEAKER_00
This is the deal.
2
SPEAKER_00
You parachute out.
2
SPEAKER_00
Now when you go, you loot up, right?
2
SPEAKER_00
You get money.
2
SPEAKER_00
You get shit.
2
SPEAKER_00
You wrap your hands?
2
SPEAKER_00
What the fuck?
2
SPEAKER_00
Well, he must have had some damage.
2
SPEAKER_00
He had to heal up a little bit.
2
SPEAKER_00
So you re fixing to go to war.
2
SPEAKER_00
You got money.
2
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you get your boys.
2
SPEAKER_00
And then you re like, look, I don t know about that nerd, but look.
2
SPEAKER_00
We re here now look all right now that you see the perimeter Dude, everybody gets brought in you get scopes you put it on you get money You could buy stuff put it on and you re taking these guys out you re sniping them, and this is all in virtual reality virtual reality It s fucking cool, dude
2
SPEAKER_00
That guy likes it, though.
2
SPEAKER_01
You should get a new job reviewing VR games.
2
SPEAKER_01
That s not a bad idea, actually.
2
SPEAKER_01
Imagine.
2
SPEAKER_01
It s so much fun.
2
SPEAKER_01
Imagine if you had a YouTube channel.
2
SPEAKER_01
People would love watching him review a game.
2
SPEAKER_01
That s actually a great idea.
2
SPEAKER_01
He wouldn t do it, though.
2
SPEAKER_01
What?
2
SPEAKER_01
Oh, my God.
2
SPEAKER_01
Just video him playing the game.
2
SPEAKER_00
Just get someone to film him.
2
SPEAKER_01
He probably won t do it, but get someone to do it.
2
SPEAKER_00
That s a fun game.
2
SPEAKER_01
You should get the UFC to do that.
2
SPEAKER_01
I m telling you.
2
SPEAKER_01
Do you still do the thing with Jimmy?
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, man.
2
SPEAKER_00
Okay.
2
SPEAKER_00
Jimmy, me and Jimmy twice a week.
2
SPEAKER_00
UFC unfiltered.
2
SPEAKER_01
Why don t you get the UFC to just film you doing that too as well?
2
SPEAKER_01
Dana, you listening, motherfucker?
2
SPEAKER_00
It s a great idea.
2
SPEAKER_01
Dude, it s a no-miss.
2
SPEAKER_01
You d be fucking awesome at that.
2
SPEAKER_01
You really love these things.
2
SPEAKER_00
You re a character.
2
SPEAKER_00
I mean, look how enthusiastic he is about it anyway.
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you should 100% be reviewing games.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s so funny, because that could be very sad normally when a 50-year-old s fucking.
2
SPEAKER_00
I m going to be 50 this year.
2
SPEAKER_00
Last time I was on here, they did a thing called My Dad is a Gamer, and it had me on there fucking being sick.
2
SPEAKER_00
But I love that shit, it s fun.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s fun.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s harmless.
2
SPEAKER_01
I ve known you you ve been on it It s harmless if you can control it, but but you they re so fun.
2
SPEAKER_00
You ll wind up wasting your whole life My thing is it s like getting a fit everything s about balance like like passing the guard you know
2
SPEAKER_00
I feel like I deserve it at the end of the day.
2
SPEAKER_00
If I go, I do a 7 a.m.
2
SPEAKER_00
class, I fucking do my podcast, I go back, I m rolling with my wife.
2
SPEAKER_00
I had a full day, you know what?
2
SPEAKER_00
I deserve two hours, not an hour, a couple games, whatever it is.
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, no, you definitely do, but you re a disciplined man.
2
SPEAKER_01
Well, it s fun.
2
SPEAKER_01
But you re a disciplined man.
2
SPEAKER_00
Most people don t have that type of discipline.
2
SPEAKER_01
But you re an accomplished martial artist, you run a business, you have a family.
2
SPEAKER_01
You re a disciplined man.
2
SPEAKER_01
If you re just a fucking dorky kid, who just has a job, you got a life otherwise.
2
SPEAKER_01
And that s all you fucking do.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s the same thing with the reefer.
2
SPEAKER_00
Like if you re a guy doing stuff every day and you re smoking, it could help you.
2
SPEAKER_00
But if you re like in that commercial when, hold on, they re blowing the shit out the window.
2
SPEAKER_00
Hey, ma, the guy s gonna call me back.
2
SPEAKER_00
I left a message for the job.
2
SPEAKER_00
That s a problem.
2
SPEAKER_00
You know what I mean?
2
SPEAKER_00
You re 30 years old, you re living at home, you re fucking.
2
SPEAKER_00
But, you know, everything is how you use it.
2
SPEAKER_00
Back to, what is that?
2
SPEAKER_01
It s a Star Wars mod for contractors.
2
SPEAKER_00
And women always win.
2
SPEAKER_00
You gotta be a woman character.
2
SPEAKER_01
There is contractors.
2
SPEAKER_01
He says you gotta be a woman character because the women always win.
2
SPEAKER_00
Contractors is a game that s all been out forever.
2
SPEAKER_00
I m not really into it, but the Contractors Showdown is coming out at the end of the month, and that s the Battle Royale version, nerd.
2
SPEAKER_00
My wife hears me talking about this online, and she s like, you fucking have no idea.
2
SPEAKER_00
You know, she loves me, but it could be a turnoff, I m sure.
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I don t think it turns them on.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s not a panty dropper.
2
SPEAKER_01
It s not the ultimate panty dropper.
2
SPEAKER_01
I was trying to think of a light way, and that was the right way.
2
SPEAKER_00
You know what fucking is?
2
SPEAKER_00
Hold on.
2
Oh, here we go.
2
SPEAKER_00
Oh, look at that.
2
SPEAKER_01
Look at the abs, son.
2
SPEAKER_00
Fuck it.
2
Don t fuck with it.
2
SPEAKER_01
I m back to gluten free.
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
2
SPEAKER_01
I think the Zen thing s making me crazy.
2
SPEAKER_01
It s making you crazy.
2
SPEAKER_01
It s hyping you up.
2
SPEAKER_00
That s great.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s good.
2
SPEAKER_00
It s good.
2
SPEAKER_00
I m going to give you another one in five minutes.
2
SPEAKER_00
No, don t do that.
2
SPEAKER_00
The problem is this.
2
SPEAKER_00
The problem is this.
2
SPEAKER_00
Step on the accelerator.
2
SPEAKER_00
Me and him went out to eat last night.
2
SPEAKER_00
We went to the Brazilian joint.
2
SPEAKER_00
I and I didn t eat since cuz I got a clear out cuz I got a you know I got issues you know so I woke up and I had the water and I had a double shot of espresso and I don t want to be and I was a little down last night because I ate I had too much of whatever s edible okay so I was a little like I hope I m not like this tomorrow so I had a five-hour energy yeah and now I had that in the coffee so this is what it s on it s on
2
SPEAKER_00
Oh, I m having fun.
2
SPEAKER_00
You were talking about making... You were talking about coming up with a name for us.
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, we need a name.
2
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, we need a name.
2
SPEAKER_01
A cool Star Wars name.
2
SPEAKER_01
Nerdgasm.
2
SPEAKER_01
I might just call it Cucks.
2
SPEAKER_01
Just so no one can say shit about us.
2
SPEAKER_01
That s not bad.
2
SPEAKER_01
That s not bad.
2
SPEAKER_01
Cucks.
2
SPEAKER_01
That s actually kind of funny.
2
SPEAKER_00
I was going to say like the OGs, but that s too serious.
2
SPEAKER_00
That s too serious.
2
SPEAKER_01
Cucks might actually work.
3
SPEAKER_01
I like cucks.
3
SPEAKER_01
Cucks is not bad.
3
SPEAKER_02
Cucks is not bad.
3
SPEAKER_01
It s so ridiculous.
3
SPEAKER_01
It is ridiculous.
3
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
3
SPEAKER_02
You know?
3
SPEAKER_02
You want to be cucks?
3
SPEAKER_01
I kind of like it.
3
SPEAKER_01
I don t want to be a cuck.
3
SPEAKER_01
I think I m kind of enjoying that.
3
SPEAKER_01
Cucks is not bad.
3
SPEAKER_01
Let s placeholder it, put a sign, put a bookmark on it, come back to it later in the day, see how we feel in an hour.
3
SPEAKER_01
Should we take a poll?
3
SPEAKER_01
No, you don t want to let the people be involved.
3
SPEAKER_01
They re gonna hijack that shit.
3
SPEAKER_01
We re gonna be cucks for sure.
3
SPEAKER_01
That will not be a fair vote.
3
SPEAKER_01
They would try to get us.
3
SPEAKER_02
Johnny, you had one first.
3
SPEAKER_02
You were like the four horsemen.
3
SPEAKER_02
Oh, Jesus, that was a long time ago.
3
SPEAKER_02
I have a weird memory.
3
SPEAKER_02
I remember weird shit.
3
SPEAKER_02
I remember it on the furthest thing from a horseman.
3
SPEAKER_02
I m not exactly a fucking Dothraki horseman.
3
SPEAKER_02
You need help getting on a horse.
3
SPEAKER_02
You know what the problem is?
3
SPEAKER_02
You ll be on a stallion, and me and Joe will be on ponies and shit.
3
SPEAKER_01
You ll be on a mule.
3
SPEAKER_01
You ll be on a mini horse.
3
SPEAKER_01
I want to be on a sturdy mule.
3
SPEAKER_02
I was watching a mule biting a fucking hyena.
3
SPEAKER_02
They use them to bite wolves and coyotes.
3
SPEAKER_01
Mules are mean, man.
3
SPEAKER_01
They re fucking mean.
3
SPEAKER_01
They re smart.
3
SPEAKER_01
Mules.
3
SPEAKER_01
Mules.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
3
SPEAKER_01
They ll use them to protect the herd and shit.
3
SPEAKER_01
What?
3
SPEAKER_01
For real.
3
SPEAKER_01
Mules are so much smarter than horses.
3
SPEAKER_01
People like them when they travel through the mountains because a mule won t go anywhere where it s not safe.
3
SPEAKER_01
A mule will go, uh-uh, bitch.
3
SPEAKER_00
I know better.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I m no better.
3
SPEAKER_01
I m not going over there.
3
SPEAKER_01
That edge is too steep.
3
SPEAKER_01
We re falling.
3
SPEAKER_01
And so a horse is just like... Horses just go right off the dedge, man.
3
SPEAKER_02
They just listen.
3
SPEAKER_02
You gotta not stand behind those motherfuckers, though.
3
SPEAKER_01
Horses whip?
3
SPEAKER_01
No.
3
SPEAKER_01
Either one of them.
3
SPEAKER_01
A mule?
3
SPEAKER_01
Either one.
3
SPEAKER_01
Horse kick you?
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh, my God.
3
SPEAKER_01
I watched a horse kill another horse.
3
SPEAKER_00
No.
3
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, in a video.
3
SPEAKER_00
Well, online.
3
SPEAKER_01
That s what I m talking about.
3
SPEAKER_01
That s crazy.
3
SPEAKER_01
I m gonna spit up my coffee.
3
SPEAKER_01
That s a donkey.
3
SPEAKER_01
What I say they don t fuck you a mule a mule is a cross the difference a mule is a cross between a horse and a donkey and They re they re not viable.
3
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, but wouldn t you think that the hyena would fuck this thing?
3
SPEAKER_02
Really?
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah Yeah, you would think so, but it looks like that hyena is fucking tranquilized because they re videotaping this
3
SPEAKER_01
It s almost like they re playing.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, maybe it does look like they re playing.
3
SPEAKER_01
That doesn t seem very playful.
3
SPEAKER_01
That seems pretty violent on the donkey s part.
3
SPEAKER_01
It s like Hoy playing, but he s not... I don t know, man.
3
SPEAKER_01
I don t think they play like that.
3
SPEAKER_01
I think it recognizes that s a predator, and it wants it to fuck away from it.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s what I think it is, man.
3
SPEAKER_01
And that thing s trying to bite it.
3
SPEAKER_01
What is going on here?
3
SPEAKER_01
It s three and a half, four minutes.
3
SPEAKER_01
Bro, this is some gay shit.
3
SPEAKER_00
I know, right?
3
SPEAKER_00
They re sniffing assholes.
3
SPEAKER_01
Maybe they are friends.
3
SPEAKER_01
Maybe I m out of line.
3
SPEAKER_00
Maybe they re friends.
3
SPEAKER_01
Maybe the hyena and the donkey will get along, but probably not.
3
SPEAKER_01
Predator and prey animals yeah But if they kick you bet so there s a video of these Beautiful horses man, and they re in this corral and this one horse just starts kicking And he just kicks the other horse in the head and the head and it dies It s like it dies right then and there dies like you got shot like black
3
SPEAKER_01
Just falls down, legs stiff.
3
SPEAKER_02
Killed it.
3
SPEAKER_02
There s times I m in the fucking bathroom like an hour at a clip in the middle of the night.
3
SPEAKER_02
All I do is watch those fucking animals on animals.
3
SPEAKER_02
Nature s metal.
3
SPEAKER_02
You don t get into that shit, do you?
3
SPEAKER_02
I m either watching the world star hip hop fights.
3
SPEAKER_02
I watch that more than regular fights.
3
SPEAKER_02
I don t know why because they re more fun.
3
SPEAKER_01
I saw one today.
3
SPEAKER_01
I don t think we could play it It s probably violates rules, but this dude is on the ground and he s basically like fighting this guy s got a helmet on it looks like there was some sort of a traffic altercation and the guy who s on the ground has a dude and he s like setting up a heel hook and the guy s trying to Attack him and then the other guy comes over and punches him and then they separate him and when they separate him The dude is on the ground It was like holding the guy like he s gonna set up a heel hook pulls a gun out and shoots him in the dick
3
SPEAKER_00
Oh my god.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yes, just like this boom shoots him in the dick.
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh What the fuck bro, it s Some things you can t unsee yeah, but you never ask oh
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but you gotta see this.
3
SPEAKER_01
It s so funny, man.
3
SPEAKER_01
You gotta see it, because I had to watch it, because it s an Instagram reel.
3
SPEAKER_01
I had to watch it a couple of times.
3
SPEAKER_01
Fucking wait so long for it.
3
SPEAKER_01
Just to try to figure out what exactly was going on.
3
SPEAKER_02
I always like to see what s going on out there, you know?
3
SPEAKER_02
I always like to... Is it this video, Joe?
3
SPEAKER_01
No, no.
3
SPEAKER_01
Hold on a second.
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh, good.
3
SPEAKER_02
Get a scar with some other shit, Jamie.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
3
SPEAKER_01
Hold on a second.
3
SPEAKER_01
Hang on a second.
3
SPEAKER_01
Was this chick up there last time, or am I fucking crazy?
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, she s always on.
3
SPEAKER_01
Okay, I sent it to you.
3
SPEAKER_01
Okay, this is the horse.
3
SPEAKER_01
Watch this.
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh no.
3
SPEAKER_01
So this horse, it just kicks that horse s head.
3
SPEAKER_01
Boom, dead.
3
SPEAKER_01
Is it dead?
3
SPEAKER_01
Yep, dead.
3
SPEAKER_01
Look at its legs.
3
SPEAKER_01
Good lord.
3
SPEAKER_01
It died.
3
SPEAKER_01
Look at its legs.
3
SPEAKER_01
Wow.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yep.
3
SPEAKER_01
Bro, you get hit by one of those, you might as well get shot.
3
SPEAKER_01
That s a hoof at the end of a 18-horse beast.
3
SPEAKER_01
Okay, now show the guy getting shot in the dick.
3
SPEAKER_02
Did you ever try horse meat, by the way?
3
SPEAKER_02
Yes.
3
SPEAKER_02
How is it?
3
SPEAKER_01
Is it good?
3
SPEAKER_01
It tastes like wild game.
3
SPEAKER_01
I tried it in Montreal.
3
SPEAKER_01
There s this amazing restaurant in Montreal called Joe Beef, and me and Duncan and Ari ate there, and they served you ... They had horse tartare, so it s essentially raw horse.
3
SPEAKER_01
and then they had like a horse filet.
3
SPEAKER_01
They served us horse filet.
3
SPEAKER_01
I was like, wow, this is weird.
3
SPEAKER_00
You know who used to eat horse meat?
3
SPEAKER_00
Patrick Cote.
3
SPEAKER_00
Remember when he was in the house?
3
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah.
3
SPEAKER_00
We used to get a list of what we could put on there, what we wanted, and he put horse meat on his list, and we was like, what the fuck?
3
SPEAKER_01
Smart.
3
SPEAKER_01
He knew everybody would fuck with it.
3
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
3
SPEAKER_01
That s all those dudes up north in Canada, you know?
3
SPEAKER_00
He s a Montreal guy.
3
SPEAKER_01
I almost don t want to see this, bro.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you do.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you do.
3
SPEAKER_01
So watch this.
3
SPEAKER_01
Why are you saying that?
3
SPEAKER_01
So this guy- This has got to be Brazil.
3
SPEAKER_00
I don t know, but look.
3
SPEAKER_00
So the other guy comes over and kicks him.
3
SPEAKER_01
They push him away, now watch this.
3
SPEAKER_01
Keep an eye on the guy on the bottom.
3
SPEAKER_01
He s got a gun?
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, watch here.
3
SPEAKER_02
Come on, man.
3
SPEAKER_01
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
3
SPEAKER_02
And the best is, it looks like they re doing a little, all right, they might be blue belt level.
3
SPEAKER_01
I was about to say, yeah, that s definitely Brazil.
3
SPEAKER_01
That guy s got a stripe or two on his butt.
3
SPEAKER_01
But I don t think that could be just- Oh, fuck!
3
SPEAKER_01
Come on, man!
3
SPEAKER_01
Bro, bro, bro, bro.
3
SPEAKER_02
Dude, keep that shit between you and Tom Segura.
3
SPEAKER_02
I don t need to see that shit.
3
SPEAKER_02
I don t want to be part of that fucking test.
3
SPEAKER_01
Okay, that shit hurt me.
3
SPEAKER_00
It hurt me just to watch it.
3
SPEAKER_01
Fuck.
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh, no, you gotta wonder what other damage that oh, that s it does it s over He lost everything he lost a lot that bullet probably To his organs, you gotta you gotta really try to avoid everything in this everything everything what I always tell Dean Thomas a troublemaker.
3
SPEAKER_01
Oh
3
SPEAKER_00
What?
3
SPEAKER_00
I always gotta stop him from fighting.
3
SPEAKER_02
Dean does mellow me out though.
3
SPEAKER_02
I gotta stop him.
3
SPEAKER_02
Every time we do a show, he almost gets in a fight.
3
SPEAKER_02
First of all, that s not true.
3
SPEAKER_02
But second of all,
3
SPEAKER_02
We did, it didn t come out yet, but we did that fucking cold plunge on that fucking show.
3
SPEAKER_02
Let me ask you something about the degrees of that, because I m thinking about adding this into my routine.
3
SPEAKER_02
The cold plunge?
3
SPEAKER_02
I swear, man, because I start my day with a steam.
3
SPEAKER_02
I m thinking about putting it, a small one, in my locker room upstairs in my thing.
3
SPEAKER_02
It was fucking brutal, is what it was.
3
SPEAKER_02
When we did it, it was 32 degrees?
3
34.
3
SPEAKER_02
Okay, I m trying to make it worse.
3
SPEAKER_01
34 for three minutes.
3
SPEAKER_01
Is that pussy shit?
3
SPEAKER_01
No, that s normal.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s what I do every day.
3
SPEAKER_01
Normal?
3
34.
3
SPEAKER_01
Three minutes every day.
3
SPEAKER_02
That was fucking... I do it before my workout.
3
SPEAKER_02
Next question is, did you build up to that?
3
SPEAKER_01
Yes.
3
SPEAKER_01
In two days.
3
SPEAKER_01
Two days?
3
SPEAKER_01
I took you two days to build up to that?
3
SPEAKER_01
Third day I did 20 minutes.
3
SPEAKER_01
Stop.
3
SPEAKER_01
No, I did.
3
SPEAKER_01
I filmed it.
3
SPEAKER_01
At 34?
3
SPEAKER_01
34 degrees.
3
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I wanted to see how long it would go.
3
SPEAKER_01
That s pretty crazy.
3
SPEAKER_01
See, but that s different if somebody watched.
3
SPEAKER_01
Nobody s watching.
3
SPEAKER_02
We handled it differently.
3
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, we sure did.
3
SPEAKER_02
He was quiet, and then once in a while you hear like a Goggins come out of him, like, I can handle this.
3
SPEAKER_02
I m carrying the boats and all that shit.
3
SPEAKER_02
I just wouldn t shut the fuck up.
3
SPEAKER_02
He wouldn t shut the fuck up.
3
SPEAKER_02
I was thinking to myself, will he shut the fuck up?
3
SPEAKER_02
I can t concentrate in this moment.
3
SPEAKER_02
I had to keep myself, I wanted to jump the fuck out.
3
SPEAKER_02
And Dana was right there.
3
SPEAKER_02
Did he do it?
3
SPEAKER_02
He did it.
3
SPEAKER_02
How long?
3
SPEAKER_02
He does it every day.
3
SPEAKER_01
I m pretty sure he told me he does it at like 50 degrees or something.
3
SPEAKER_01
I don t think it has the same amount of an effect probably But I m just guessing it might be the same thing if you did like 50 degrees for like five minutes Maybe that s that s the same as like 34 degrees
4
SPEAKER_03
for three minutes or two minutes.
4
SPEAKER_03
I don t know.
4
SPEAKER_01
I ll do that.
4
SPEAKER_01
It was brutal.
4
SPEAKER_03
I like the part where I don t want to do it and then I do it.
4
SPEAKER_03
I like that.
4
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, and you do it in the morning?
4
SPEAKER_01
First thing.
4
SPEAKER_01
How do you do that in the morning?
4
SPEAKER_01
That s the last thing that I want to do when I wake up.
4
SPEAKER_01
Exactly.
4
SPEAKER_03
Probably the best time.
4
SPEAKER_03
Exactly.
4
SPEAKER_03
That s why you do it.
4
SPEAKER_03
It s easy.
4
SPEAKER_03
It s an easy win.
4
SPEAKER_02
It s over and done.
4
SPEAKER_03
It s an easy win.
4
SPEAKER_03
It s an easy win.
4
SPEAKER_02
Imagine if all day you were thinking about, oh, I got to do it.
4
SPEAKER_02
I got to get it in and get it done.
4
SPEAKER_03
It s also, you know you don t want to do it, and yet you did it.
4
SPEAKER_03
So it s an easy win.
4
SPEAKER_03
Well, I felt like that after we finished.
4
SPEAKER_01
So I bought one, but I purposely didn t put it together yet.
4
SPEAKER_01
Just so I didn t have to do it.
4
SPEAKER_00
Just so I didn t have to look at that local girl and make myself look like a bitch.
4
SPEAKER_00
That s awesome.
4
SPEAKER_00
I think it s an easy thing to add to my morning routine, because I have a nice routine as it is.
4
SPEAKER_00
I start at 7 a.m., I do that to class, I get up at 5, I get there early, I get my head straight, and I get in the steam, that nice steam after that.
4
SPEAKER_00
I like getting my head straight, but I don t like smelling bad, so I like to, like, afterwards, I m just, I m in this, I m zen mode, man.
4
SPEAKER_00
And I m caffeined up.
4
SPEAKER_02
Now you re in zen mode.
4
SPEAKER_00
I see what you did there.
4
SPEAKER_00
Booze, I like that.
4
SPEAKER_00
I might get into that shit.
4
SPEAKER_00
I like it.
4
SPEAKER_00
As long as I m not fucking craving, like, Marlboro s if I get off this shit.
4
SPEAKER_00
I m not gonna want to fucking want nicotine, am I, or need it?
4
SPEAKER_03
Well, just don t get it.
4
SPEAKER_03
What?
4
SPEAKER_03
Don t get more of it.
4
SPEAKER_03
I m saying if I stop the zit, am I going to want more of it?
4
SPEAKER_03
Well, I don t know how your body works, but a lot of people get addicted to it.
4
SPEAKER_00
Well, thanks for turning me on to it, you fucking crack pusher.
4
SPEAKER_00
Thank you.
4
SPEAKER_03
It s good for you.
4
SPEAKER_00
Is it good for you, though?
4
SPEAKER_03
I think it s good for your brain.
4
SPEAKER_00
Then there you go.
4
SPEAKER_03
I m on it.
4
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_03
But I think you ve got to be careful if you re one of those guys.
4
SPEAKER_00
I mean, how many of them do you take a day?
4
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, talk to me, Jamie.
4
SPEAKER_03
Look out for me.
4
SPEAKER_03
Nicotine prevents the formation in the test tube of protein clumps linked to Alzheimer s disease, scientists announced at a press conference today.
4
SPEAKER_03
The finding may provide a useful starting point for developing drugs that delay or prevent the disease.
4
SPEAKER_03
Research is a quick to caution.
4
SPEAKER_03
However that harmful effects of smoking.
4
SPEAKER_03
Yeah strengthened by report in Science last week linked in a carcinogen byproduct of cigarette smoke to a specific kind of lung tumor far outweigh any possible benefit from nicotine and tobacco so but what they re saying is Don t smoke, but they re not to itself.
4
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, I think nicotine itself
4
SPEAKER_03
Nicotine definitely is a nootropic, right?
4
SPEAKER_03
Like, if you can Google that.
4
SPEAKER_03
So it s a substance that s been shown to enhance cognitive function.
4
SPEAKER_03
So one of the things that, like, Stephen King said when he stopped smoking, he said that was one of the hardest things for his writing.
4
SPEAKER_03
He said, like, his synapses didn t fire as fast.
4
SPEAKER_03
Oh, what does this say?
4
SPEAKER_03
Nicotine s cognitive effects have gained significant attention in recent decades, and some non-smokers have even started using nicotine gum or patches as a nootropic.
4
SPEAKER_03
Research has shown that nicotine can speed up reaction time, improve working memory, and enhance focus and attention.
4
SPEAKER_03
What?
4
SPEAKER_03
Dude.
4
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
4
SPEAKER_03
You got me.
4
SPEAKER_00
I know.
4
SPEAKER_00
You got me.
4
SPEAKER_00
Watch me in VR now.
4
SPEAKER_00
I m going to fucking kill everybody.
4
SPEAKER_00
That s nice, man.
4
SPEAKER_00
I might fuck around with that.
4
SPEAKER_00
Interesting, right?
4
SPEAKER_00
Interesting.
4
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, man, as long as it s... I think I m gonna go with the alpha brain.
4
SPEAKER_03
That s great.
4
SPEAKER_03
I m interested in anything that gives you a positive effect in the brain.
4
SPEAKER_00
Or also, what about dick pills?
4
SPEAKER_00
Anything that has a positive effect on your life.
4
SPEAKER_00
You know?
4
SPEAKER_00
It s fun to party.
4
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I used to take the alpha brain all the time.
4
SPEAKER_01
Then I ran out and forgot.
4
SPEAKER_01
Oh, we ll get you some.
4
SPEAKER_03
We ll get you some.
4
SPEAKER_03
I ll get some sent to you.
4
SPEAKER_03
But all those other ones are really good too.
4
SPEAKER_03
That Neuro One shit, that stuff s great.
4
SPEAKER_03
You can put it in a protein shake.
4
SPEAKER_03
Or you can just drink it by itself, tastes good.
4
SPEAKER_03
There s a bunch of them.
4
SPEAKER_00
How many of the Zen things would you do a day?
4
SPEAKER_00
Like one?
4
SPEAKER_03
It takes me a few days to go through one packet.
4
SPEAKER_03
I don t know how many is in a packet.
4
SPEAKER_00
Oh, so would you take more than one a day?
4
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, I ll take one, two, three a day.
4
SPEAKER_03
Really?
4
SPEAKER_03
Four a day if I feel like it, yeah.
4
SPEAKER_03
And you feel a difference?
4
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, but I do like to know that I can take days off.
4
SPEAKER_03
And I take days off, I m like, how do I feel?
4
SPEAKER_03
I feel fine.
4
SPEAKER_02
You do feel fine?
4
SPEAKER_02
I don t feel weird.
4
SPEAKER_02
Do you use it before like a podcast or before you do a show?
4
SPEAKER_02
Before shows, yeah.
4
SPEAKER_02
For that purpose.
4
SPEAKER_02
I like it during podcasts.
4
SPEAKER_02
So you see, it has to have a purpose.
4
SPEAKER_03
This is also the same reason why I drink coffee a lot.
4
SPEAKER_03
I m trying to keep my brain going if I m talking to really smart people.
4
SPEAKER_00
I was happy when I saw that guy and he was telling me what I should, because I got my
4
SPEAKER_00
So I took, did I tell you, so I took the shit in the box.
4
SPEAKER_00
Oh yeah, the shit in the box.
4
SPEAKER_00
You stopped that story.
4
SPEAKER_00
Oh, I m sorry, let s get back to the shit.
4
SPEAKER_00
You stopped that shit in the box.
4
SPEAKER_00
I m sorry.
4
SPEAKER_00
All right, so I had a, so after I saw the guy and he gave me the sample, I go, all right, listen, I m gonna knock this thing out.
4
SPEAKER_00
It took me a while, it was months before I did it.
4
SPEAKER_00
But then I finally, he s texted.
4
SPEAKER_02
Now real quick, does the shit in the box go to a doctor or to a holistic doctor?
4
SPEAKER_00
No, they come and pick it up and then they go to a lab and then he gets the results.
4
SPEAKER_03
I searched for a doctor doctor.
4
SPEAKER_00
He gets the results from it.
4
SPEAKER_03
We wanted to find out what s the definition of holistic.
4
SPEAKER_03
The problem might be in just that people have co-opted that term and used that term holistic for a bunch of hippie shit.
4
SPEAKER_03
But a holistic doctor... I m telling you, he could be a holistic approach.
4
SPEAKER_03
What is the exact definition of holistic?
4
SPEAKER_03
And I said I could smell bullshit, you know, I m when I met the guy I m like again I was expecting half a hippie and he s okay characterized by the belief that the parts of something are interconnected and can be explained only by reference to the whole well, that s Characterizes the treatment of the whole person take into account mental and social factors rather than just the symptoms of an illness, okay
4
SPEAKER_03
Many people conclude that holistic medicines are beneficial.
4
SPEAKER_03
So the problem is not it s the Like when I hear that word holistic, I think bullshit already just hippies Even but if you re talking about medicine, it totally makes sense.
4
SPEAKER_03
I agree.
4
SPEAKER_03
He was just it s been co-opted, right?
4
SPEAKER_03
Good word.
4
SPEAKER_00
We were doing a zoom thing with me
4
SPEAKER_00
him and my wife, you know, because he wanted her there because he knows I m like a bad kid.
4
SPEAKER_00
I don t want to eat vegetables and I don t know what he s going to tell me to eat and shit.
4
SPEAKER_00
I don t like eating bad, you know, I m picky my eating.
4
SPEAKER_00
Right.
4
SPEAKER_00
So I was afraid what he was going to tell me.
4
SPEAKER_00
So when we went on there, he was showing me all the stuff that
4
SPEAKER_00
Well first, let me tell you how I took the shit first.
4
SPEAKER_00
So I was afraid of taking the shit because you never know how it comes out and I was really like, I didn t know where to do it.
4
SPEAKER_00
So I went into my, you guys don t have to hear about it.
4
SPEAKER_00
You re in now, brother.
4
SPEAKER_00
So I go to my school and listen.
4
SPEAKER_00
I like to keep stuff somewhat spicy with me and my wife, so I don t want to do it at my house.
4
SPEAKER_00
God forbid it goes all over.
4
SPEAKER_00
So I go to my shower at my school, right?
4
SPEAKER_00
And I m basically ... Thank goodness it wasn t all over the place, and I was doing more of a standing ...
4
SPEAKER_00
I was almost like a rodeo rider.
4
SPEAKER_00
So you re catching it?
4
SPEAKER_03
You really gotta make sure your wrist stays parallel.
4
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, could you imagine?
4
SPEAKER_03
If you get a little accidental dip in your shit, then you gotta scoop it up.
4
SPEAKER_00
I was in the shower.
4
SPEAKER_00
You know what s bad about it is after you take a shit,
4
SPEAKER_00
There s nothing good about it.
4
SPEAKER_00
But I have to know what s going on with my gut.
4
SPEAKER_00
So after I took the shit, you gotta, it s almost like, and it really ruined my love of Nutella because I used to always like the fucking little scoops with the, because you gotta take a little spoon.
4
SPEAKER_00
in your shit, and he goes, make sure you get different sides of it.
4
SPEAKER_00
If there s a watery part of this, I m like, oh.
4
SPEAKER_00
And I m not doing, oh.
4
SPEAKER_00
So I m in there, and you got to do the dip, and you got to put it in a little vial and gossip it.
4
SPEAKER_00
You guys wanted to hear about it.
4
SPEAKER_00
So after that, you take it, you shake it off.
4
SPEAKER_00
And then you put it in an envelope and you ship it off.
4
SPEAKER_00
So that was the story of that.
4
SPEAKER_00
And then when they seen like the stuff that was highlighted in the red zone, like what is gonna be affecting my gut?
4
SPEAKER_00
Like I had, I think you said there was like a parasite thing in there.
4
SPEAKER_02
Spaghetti.
4
SPEAKER_00
There was like a parasite.
4
SPEAKER_00
I don t know what the fuck he goes you usually get this something you have he was do you have animals?
4
SPEAKER_00
I m like no.
4
SPEAKER_00
I don t fucking have animals I don t know what the fuck, but there was also um like a big bacteria in there.
4
SPEAKER_00
You know so the clear that bacteria
4
SPEAKER_00
I m drinking a shake, this thorn type shake.
4
SPEAKER_00
I don t know if it s called thorn, but it s that.
4
SPEAKER_00
And I m on different supplements from, I don t eat vegetables, so there s these, I got these four green pills.
4
SPEAKER_00
He s got me on supplements.
4
SPEAKER_00
We ll see how it goes.
4
SPEAKER_00
It s fresh.
4
SPEAKER_00
It s only like a weekend.
4
SPEAKER_00
Because it took me forever to do that shit in the box.
4
SPEAKER_00
So I ll let you know how it works.
4
SPEAKER_00
I don t know how it is yet.
4
SPEAKER_03
Ari Shafir was on Legion of Skanks, this podcast they do.
4
SPEAKER_03
So they film it live in front of an audience.
4
SPEAKER_03
And Ari had taken a shit in a Tupperware.
4
SPEAKER_03
Brought it on stage and who do you give it to Luis Gomez?
4
SPEAKER_03
No?
4
SPEAKER_03
Why who do you give it to big J?
4
SPEAKER_02
Fucking mine, dude
5
SPEAKER_02
She opens up, they open up this Tupperware and the smell is just... No, come on.
5
SPEAKER_00
Oh, man.
5
SPEAKER_02
People start running out of the room.
5
SPEAKER_00
Good Lord.
5
SPEAKER_00
Is there a video of that?
5
SPEAKER_00
There s nothing worse than the smell of human shit.
5
SPEAKER_02
I don t know if they have video.
5
SPEAKER_00
Especially if it s someone else.
5
SPEAKER_00
In a Tupperware for days.
5
SPEAKER_02
Like when you take a Horrific shit, it s been someone in your family goes in there after you and you re like, I m so sorry I m sorry meanness, but I m gonna do it.
5
SPEAKER_01
You mean my boy meanness?
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah We were in California.
5
SPEAKER_01
We were hanging out.
5
SPEAKER_01
We hit that one of them Dell tacos.
5
SPEAKER_01
I
5
SPEAKER_01
So food is fucking alright He s got to take a shit.
5
SPEAKER_01
He comes out of the fucking bathroom dry heaving his eyes water and from his own shit You don t mean is to amaze me What s the name of his diner
5
SPEAKER_01
Valentino s love it.
5
SPEAKER_02
Well, that is hilarious.
5
SPEAKER_02
Your own shit is so bad.
5
SPEAKER_02
You re dry.
5
SPEAKER_02
Oh, come on.
5
SPEAKER_00
Oh, no.
5
SPEAKER_02
Go from the beginning of the beginning.
5
SPEAKER_00
I don t think you ll see it.
5
SPEAKER_01
I think it is Mickey.
5
SPEAKER_02
I think it is Mickey dude.
5
SPEAKER_01
I legit almost threw up Did you see that Jamie?
5
SPEAKER_02
I legit almost threw up.
5
SPEAKER_02
I can t look at that.
5
SPEAKER_02
Get that off the screen.
5
SPEAKER_00
I will throw up.
5
SPEAKER_00
How about Ari not able to look away from it?
5
SPEAKER_00
I know, right?
5
SPEAKER_00
What is this?
5
SPEAKER_00
He looks like a proud dad.
5
SPEAKER_01
He s the best.
5
SPEAKER_00
Ari is the best.
5
SPEAKER_01
He s such a psycho.
5
SPEAKER_01
He s crazy.
5
SPEAKER_01
Is he still training?
5
SPEAKER_01
Nah, he fucked his knee up.
5
SPEAKER_01
Fucked his knee up, then quit.
5
SPEAKER_02
He trained for a little bit though.
5
SPEAKER_00
Got a brand new knee.
5
SPEAKER_00
Everybody s tapping out now.
5
SPEAKER_00
They got their fucking knees.
5
SPEAKER_00
Well, you re still rolling even with the new knee, right?
5
SPEAKER_00
I am, but I m a little more choosy.
5
SPEAKER_00
Does it have the same stability?
5
SPEAKER_00
What s that?
5
SPEAKER_02
Does it have the same stability?
5
SPEAKER_02
What is it like?
5
SPEAKER_00
The problem is, I was rollin  with one of my buddies, Abe, my black belt Abe, and I d always meet up with him, because we have nice trainer sessions, and it s not, I don t think it s my knee as much, remember I told you I tore my quad in the rehab, like I was steppin  down too high, and I tore that shit, so it s a little deformed.
5
SPEAKER_00
And I went to butterfly sweep him.
5
SPEAKER_00
And when I went to butterfly sweep him, something popped on the outside.
5
SPEAKER_00
Like if I show you my leg, it s a little something on that knee.
5
SPEAKER_00
And I don t know what I strained or what I pulled.
5
SPEAKER_00
I don t know what MCLs I have left.
5
SPEAKER_00
I don t know what the fuck s there.
5
SPEAKER_00
But it felt weak for a bit after that.
5
SPEAKER_00
So I haven t rolled super hard since.
5
SPEAKER_00
And that was over a month ago.
5
SPEAKER_00
Did you do any of that like knees over toes stuff?
5
SPEAKER_02
I heard about that, man.
5
SPEAKER_00
I ve seen guys do it, and it seems like it works.
5
SPEAKER_00
It does work.
5
SPEAKER_00
I use it a lot.
5
SPEAKER_02
There s a guy, KneesOverToesGuy on Instagram, and this dude had gone through a bunch of knee surgeries and real problems, and realized that part of the problem was he wasn t strengthening all of the stabilizing muscles all in and around his knee.
5
SPEAKER_02
with like tibia raises and those step-downs and walking backwards on a treadmill and then Yeah, and Nordic curls when you re lying on your your chest and you bring your body up only with your I do those every day.
5
SPEAKER_02
I do those two on a slant board.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, I have a slant board But those Nordic curls are so fucking hard to do like when you first do it you like oh my god This is crazy super hard to do
5
SPEAKER_02
So the whole idea is about strengthening all the muscles that stabilize the knee, and most people are just using the leg, and they re hoping that all that work gets done.
5
SPEAKER_02
But if you really want to make your legs really strong, where the knees are really stable, you really want to do things that stabilize that.
5
SPEAKER_02
I mean, you think about how much of a knee injury puts you out.
5
SPEAKER_02
Every elite athlete should be doing this kind of shit.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_01
Like, I have pretty bad patellar tendonitis in my left knee, and it s helped pretty much eliminate it.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, it s it s pretty impressive stuff And this guy gives it all away for free because his philosophy was look if I was an 11 year old that had a knee Injury, I would want this available to me.
5
SPEAKER_02
And so he s a fucking awesome guy But his stuff is rock-solid man, I mean my knees feel so much better doing that.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah split squats
5
SPEAKER_02
Slant board bodyweight squats.
5
SPEAKER_02
I do a hundred of those every day.
5
SPEAKER_02
I do the Nordic curls.
5
SPEAKER_01
I do all that shit That s where I got to get on that slant board and step off and touch your heel to the floor to it.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, that s great I got to be more disciplined that you use the sled the backwards walking backwards.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I ll do for like 10 minutes throw a couple plates.
5
SPEAKER_01
Oh, yeah
5
SPEAKER_01
You know back and forth back and so that work cuz I got no meniscus in my left knee So and I was always I always feel the bone grinding we were talking about the cadaver meniscus They do do that now you looked in any like gel one or sin visc to like sometimes you can get a shot that ll help With some of that it only lasts four to six months, but it s better than having your knee grind I got one of those once and it didn t really seem to help didn t help you know
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, mine, I mean mine I liked and then I got the stem cells.
5
SPEAKER_02
But I ve talked to people that had no meniscus at all and they got one of those things and it was like my knee was brand new again for months.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I had a guy, he s a firefighter, my buddy Carl, his knee was jacked and he s the one that told me about the gel one and all and he was doing it and it allowed him to come back and train and everything and eventually insurance wouldn t pay for the shot but they would pay for his knee replacement.
5
SPEAKER_00
It s so crazy.
5
SPEAKER_01
Instead of a $1,500 shot, they ll pay 50 Gs.
5
SPEAKER_00
It s a scam.
5
SPEAKER_00
Such a joke, man.
5
SPEAKER_00
The thing with those knees, though, me and you last night, I m not doing that without my new knee.
5
SPEAKER_00
Walking around town, I m not doing that.
5
SPEAKER_00
I d go to Tropicana for a fight, and I d be with my buddy, and we d have to stop every
5
SPEAKER_00
How many feet?
5
SPEAKER_00
I m like, yeah, we gotta chill.
5
SPEAKER_00
I m like, dude, he s like, dude, it s time.
5
SPEAKER_00
I couldn t walk.
5
SPEAKER_00
So now I could, you know, I m back.
5
SPEAKER_00
That s why I m not getting the other one done until I have to.
5
SPEAKER_02
My problem was anytime I would injure something, I would not give it enough time.
5
SPEAKER_02
I would get stem cells.
5
SPEAKER_01
I would not give it enough time.
5
SPEAKER_02
And I d be like, it s good enough, you know?
5
SPEAKER_02
And then it would get aggravated again.
5
SPEAKER_02
It s like, goddamn it, now it s chronic.
5
SPEAKER_00
See, I don t like to do all those exercises and shit.
5
SPEAKER_00
I think I m scarred from all that.
5
SPEAKER_00
The only way I like to stay in shape- Training camp.
5
SPEAKER_00
Get some- Oh, why training camp?
5
SPEAKER_00
Longo had some old school shit.
5
SPEAKER_00
I did so many- Longo s the best.
5
SPEAKER_00
I love Ray Longo.
5
SPEAKER_00
You two would be the greatest reality show of all time.
5
SPEAKER_02
Oh my god, you ain t kidding.
5
SPEAKER_02
I love Longo.
5
SPEAKER_02
What am I, a UFC producer?
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, here s another one.
5
SPEAKER_02
You two, the two Longos, imagine that.
5
SPEAKER_00
Longo s one of a kind, Longo.
5
SPEAKER_00
He s one of my favorite people.
5
SPEAKER_00
Longo s just an old school guy, never had a contract with anybody, just always there helping people for the right reasons, not just to get his face in there.
5
SPEAKER_00
Nowadays, he s just a great fucking whores out there.
5
SPEAKER_02
He s just a real man Fucking love that guy, but I love the two of you together when you guys were in the corner It s also rock-solid information We keep it very simple, you know and I
5
SPEAKER_00
It s just crazy nowadays.
5
SPEAKER_00
It s a little weird now with the whole team, man.
5
SPEAKER_00
Times change and stuff, but everybody s out in Vegas now.
5
SPEAKER_00
The whole team s like... I mean, everybody s doing well, so we re all happy for everybody, but Vegas is very tempting for young fighters, and I don t blame them.
5
SPEAKER_00
Well, the facility really, I think, is going to pull people out.
5
SPEAKER_02
The PI, all your food is taken care of, and you have the most sophisticated training environment available on earth.
5
SPEAKER_02
And if there s something better, they re gonna get it.
5
SPEAKER_02
Whatever the fuck it is.
5
SPEAKER_01
I mean, it s a beautiful thing.
5
SPEAKER_01
I think it s fantastic.
5
SPEAKER_01
The only thing I think it sucks for is that you have these guys who are coming up
5
SPEAKER_01
you know, with their people at home, then they get to where they re at the UFC, they get to the P.I., which is awesome.
5
SPEAKER_01
And then some school in Vegas is claiming, you know.
5
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_01
And I m no slam on Couture s team or nothing.
5
SPEAKER_01
You know, like Nick said, he s a great coach.
5
SPEAKER_01
But if I got a guy who s out here and he s been with you for, you know, a few months, you can t take credit for that guy.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_01
I think.
5
SPEAKER_01
you know, in a perfect world.
5
SPEAKER_01
And it s not his fault either.
5
SPEAKER_01
He just is there.
5
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
5
SPEAKER_01
And, you know, it just makes sense.
5
SPEAKER_02
But I think in a perfect world, they collaborate.
5
SPEAKER_02
And then they re both there.
5
SPEAKER_02
I think in a perfect world, that s how, you know, that s how you do it.
5
SPEAKER_02
Right.
5
SPEAKER_02
I mean, that s what Greg Jackson and Feras Ahabi and all those guys did when they were trading fighters back and forth.
5
SPEAKER_02
And they all trained together.
5
SPEAKER_02
That s the way to do it.
5
SPEAKER_02
But you never leave your original team if they re good.
5
SPEAKER_02
If it works out and you have a relationship with them, you figure it out together.
5
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
6
SPEAKER_02
Unless you re trapped in a too small of an environment and your coach is just not able to fit the needs of like You know, there s some guys that are just super talented, but they start out in the middle of nowhere Yeah, and you know, they don t have a real good gym The guy doesn t really know the PI level.
6
SPEAKER_02
I think that s the best thing ever for the fighters.
6
SPEAKER_02
It s
6
SPEAKER_03
I m in Vegas all the time, and I m working with all kind of fighters, and I would never ask anybody to leave their team in fact I m like listen.
6
SPEAKER_03
I ll give you any information you want beautiful, but you can t leave your team.
6
SPEAKER_02
I m saying like I m not taking you I don t want you good beautiful Taxes they save money with taxes out there.
6
SPEAKER_01
It s it s a very it s very desirable
6
SPEAKER_02
But it also creates a conflict where the conflicts not necessary, right?
6
SPEAKER_02
It s cuz it s like he s for sure getting new information guys getting new information from Nix it getting new information from training with everybody You re you re on a path, but you re on a path with the people that you started the path, right?
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah Even if you re in this new place, like this is maybe you re enhancing your education.
6
SPEAKER_02
You re getting better at fighting.
6
SPEAKER_01
You re still And you want what you want what s best for them if you really care for them Yeah, but at the same time like
6
SPEAKER_01
What did you sign up for?
6
SPEAKER_01
What did I sign up for?
6
SPEAKER_01
Like, I m not gonna be in a corner with somebody, and I could like them, but, you know, me and Longo, what we did is with me and Longo, some local kids, there s a time when it s like, all right, Al s from Wontore, Wyman s from Baldwin, they re all local kids.
6
SPEAKER_01
Who s fighting?
6
SPEAKER_01
This one s taking out the best of Brazil.
6
SPEAKER_01
This one s, we re going to Australia, Al s fucking up this guy in London.
6
SPEAKER_01
This is what I m a part of.
6
SPEAKER_01
Me and Longo taking our guys to the flagpole.
6
SPEAKER_01
And then who s with us?
6
SPEAKER_01
Aljo or Al as our third guy.
6
SPEAKER_01
I m not beat.
6
SPEAKER_01
I didn t sign on for anything else.
6
SPEAKER_01
Like, in other words, I want to make these guys the best they can.
6
SPEAKER_01
But once it gets to a certain degree now where it s like, all right, man, this guy s going to be in the corner and this.
6
SPEAKER_01
All right, well, now that you guys are calling the shots.
6
SPEAKER_01
You don t need me no more, because I m not going to be fucking in there.
6
SPEAKER_01
Okay, is it my turn to take the towel in?
6
SPEAKER_00
Fuck everybody!
6
SPEAKER_00
I m out!
6
SPEAKER_00
Who wants to go in this time?
6
SPEAKER_01
Nick Sig, John Wood, who wants to?
6
SPEAKER_01
And I love those guys, they re good guys.
6
SPEAKER_01
I like them, they re good.
6
SPEAKER_01
I m friendly with them, but I m not a part of that.
6
SPEAKER_01
I want the best for my fucking guys.
6
SPEAKER_01
I love those guys.
6
SPEAKER_01
Fucking Marab s gonna be the next champ.
6
SPEAKER_01
Fucking Marab is unstoppable.
6
SPEAKER_02
When he was carrying Henry Cejudo with his tongue out.
6
SPEAKER_02
Oh yeah, I know.
6
SPEAKER_02
And he s like a savage moment.
6
SPEAKER_02
What a savage.
6
SPEAKER_02
Walking over to Mark Zuckerberg.
6
SPEAKER_02
Holding Henry fucking Zahudo.
6
SPEAKER_02
Two division world champion.
6
SPEAKER_01
Embarrassed.
6
SPEAKER_02
Look at that.
6
SPEAKER_02
That s insane.
6
SPEAKER_01
Marab, the thing is with Marab.
6
SPEAKER_01
He s a savage.
6
SPEAKER_01
I ve never seen, in all my years, I ve never seen a gas tank like that.
6
SPEAKER_01
I never had it s incredible.
6
SPEAKER_01
You know, it s incredible.
6
SPEAKER_02
It s incredible because it s not like he s slow like generally associate like Really high level endurance with guys that maybe don t have the kind of power he has but he s also He s durable if you watched his fight with Marlon Marant.
6
SPEAKER_01
Oh Man, yeah, not only did he get dropped it was almost about to get stopped.
6
SPEAKER_01
Oh
6
SPEAKER_01
But then it was almost, by the end of the round, not only did he recover, he was beating the shit out of Mark Witton.
6
SPEAKER_01
Like, just beating, it almost ended in the other way.
6
SPEAKER_01
He might have won back that round.
6
SPEAKER_01
I never see, I m like, holy fuck.
6
SPEAKER_01
He s an animal.
6
SPEAKER_01
I ll tell you.
6
SPEAKER_02
Dude, his social media is getting funny, too.
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, he s great on social media.
6
SPEAKER_02
He s the best.
6
SPEAKER_01
He s the best.
6
SPEAKER_01
He s an animal.
6
SPEAKER_01
And I m happy that him and Aljo never fought.
6
SPEAKER_01
They never, you know what I mean?
6
SPEAKER_01
That s a beautiful thing.
6
SPEAKER_02
Did Aljo have to go up?
6
SPEAKER_02
Is he, like, really struggling?
6
SPEAKER_02
Why did he decide to go up?
6
SPEAKER_01
Well, I think it s time.
6
SPEAKER_01
I mean, you d have to ask him, but...
6
SPEAKER_01
It was hard for him to get down to that weight.
6
SPEAKER_01
I m sure, I mean, he s done it, he s a pro.
6
SPEAKER_02
He s so good at that weight, though.
6
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but, man, he ll strangle guys the size of Rallo.
6
SPEAKER_01
I ve seen him, I ve felt him.
6
SPEAKER_02
Oh, I m sure he can.
6
SPEAKER_02
But I m just saying, I always felt that he had, like, really good endurance for a guy who cuts that much weight.
6
SPEAKER_02
And he could push a pace.
6
SPEAKER_02
And his size and the grappling advantage, like, when he strangled Corey Sanhagen, I was like, holy shit.
6
SPEAKER_03
But I think it s gonna be better now, so I ve been working with him a little bit just talking to him Yeah, he s healthier now He s not concerned about his weight and that was a big part for him at 35 is like half of his camp was just making weight and as as he like puts it do you think there should be more weight classes and
6
SPEAKER_02
I think so.
6
SPEAKER_02
I think so.
6
SPEAKER_01
I think they should have been back in fucking 2001.
6
SPEAKER_01
I was a fucking tweener, man.
6
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, for sure.
6
SPEAKER_01
155 was fucking hard for me, man, but I was like Gollum on that fucking scale.
6
SPEAKER_01
But 170, imagine me now at 170 with fucking MVPs and all these motherfuckers, I ll be up to the dick.
6
SPEAKER_01
That s true.
6
SPEAKER_01
First of all, people will shit on that guy.
6
SPEAKER_02
How does MVP make one seven?
6
SPEAKER_02
I have no idea.
6
SPEAKER_02
Hey, what did you think of his ... I liked his ... Everybody shit on him.
6
SPEAKER_01
I liked his appearance.
6
SPEAKER_02
I was impressed by him.
6
SPEAKER_02
Listen, that s what I always was telling people.
6
SPEAKER_02
He handled Kevin Holland easily.
6
SPEAKER_02
I was telling people those point fighters, the guys who are elite at that skill of blitzing in, that s a very specific skill, and it s hard to handle.
6
SPEAKER_02
And if you re just used to guys muay thai-ing you, and then some guy is doing that, it s wild, wild to deal with.
6
SPEAKER_03
He s a tough dude, man.
6
SPEAKER_03
No, when I trained Tyron for Wonderboy, we brought in karate people.
6
SPEAKER_03
We went to karate schools looking for the best karate guys just to be able to deal with that aspect of the fight.
6
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, well, I still think Wonderboy won, so what do you think about that?
6
SPEAKER_02
I think Tyron handled Wonderboy better than anybody in Wonderboy s prime.
6
SPEAKER_02
Right, right, right.
6
SPEAKER_02
I think he handled him better than anybody because he just waited on him.
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
6
SPEAKER_02
He did a lot of waiting on him, but he fucked him up.
6
SPEAKER_02
Like, he rocked him twice.
6
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
6
SPEAKER_01
Like, bad.
6
SPEAKER_02
And, you know, Wonderboy was the guy thought to be the striker.
6
SPEAKER_01
I never really watched I saw some highlights of Michael page Michael venom page From Bellator, but I never really watched He s sensational he is people was shitting on his first appearance.
6
SPEAKER_02
I thought it was I thought it was great He jumped into the deep end of the pool with a real dangerous guy Who s got one punch knockout power from his fucking back?
6
SPEAKER_01
Hey, it s the first guy in there whoever fucking Kevin Holland Kevin Holland, you understand like he Kevin Holland s usually talking shit winning or losing, you know, he s on the bottom of the I go like you re stronger than I thought Yeah, he had him.
6
SPEAKER_01
He had him, you know little fucking um perplexed
6
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I remember when I like to hear a lot of times when they go back to the corner, dude He was mentally beat after the first round it really sounded like you can t hit that guy and when you get close He s so creative those spinning elbows.
6
SPEAKER_02
He kept hitting him with And they go you got to cut him off he goes he s not there like you know, it s a different thing He s doing that point karate type movement like this shit and he trained over and over again
6
SPEAKER_02
It s that that ability to move in and out and his footwork is so sensational It s like that is a different thing to deal with it s like wrestlers If you re if you re used to grappling on your knees only and then all of a sudden you have to wrestle a big difference It s kind of like that these guys they re their ability to close distance in that sideways stance the Wonderboy did it the best UFC.
6
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, Wonderboy.
6
SPEAKER_02
It s so funny wild shit in the UFC.
6
SPEAKER_02
I
6
SPEAKER_01
It s such a different style, and my little Jimmy Bird is always like, they keep their hands down.
6
SPEAKER_01
I got you, Jimmy.
6
SPEAKER_01
It s a fucking thing.
6
SPEAKER_02
I remember Wonder Boy, Jake Ellenberger.
6
SPEAKER_02
Oh, that s the wheel kick?
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, whoop.
6
SPEAKER_02
And this was like after Jake Ellenberger had said he s not going to hit me with any of that fancy spinning shit.
6
SPEAKER_01
Oh, yeah.
6
SPEAKER_01
Oh, no, he laughed.
6
SPEAKER_01
He goes, I don t karate.
6
SPEAKER_01
He goes, that s cute.
6
SPEAKER_01
Something like that.
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
6
SPEAKER_02
And he got embarrassed.
6
SPEAKER_02
I think Wonder Boy has the perfect con.
6
SPEAKER_02
Here s the perfect con.
6
SPEAKER_02
He s genuinely the nicest guy in the world.
6
SPEAKER_02
He s handsome and wholesome, and he s just a sweet, sweet guy.
6
SPEAKER_02
And so that s like a mask that a killer wears.
6
SPEAKER_02
And then he s fucking piecing you up, and you re like, oh, no.
6
SPEAKER_03
What about the Jeff Neal fight?
6
SPEAKER_02
But that s what he did with Jeff.
6
SPEAKER_03
What he did with Jeff Neal was he pretended to be his friend.
6
SPEAKER_02
In the little cage, too.
6
SPEAKER_02
In the little cage.
6
SPEAKER_02
You get real confused.
6
SPEAKER_02
Back up a little bit so you can see before it.
6
SPEAKER_02
You get real confused with this dude, and you get confused by the way he looks and how nice he talks.
6
SPEAKER_02
He s a fucking karate assassin.
6
SPEAKER_02
He s so good.
6
SPEAKER_02
Probably the greatest karate fighter that s ever fought in MMA.
6
SPEAKER_02
He s so good.
6
SPEAKER_02
I mean, there s Raymond Daniels.
6
SPEAKER_02
He was another guy that was like an elite point fighting guy that s also a kickboxer that fought in Glory.
6
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, Raymond Daniels is good.
6
SPEAKER_02
He s the guy that has that 720 degree punch.
6
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
6
SPEAKER_02
He spins in the air and KOs the guy with one punch.
6
SPEAKER_02
It s the craziest thing you ve ever seen.
6
SPEAKER_02
If you saw it in a movie.
6
SPEAKER_02
You think a kick is coming and then he just goes whap.
6
SPEAKER_02
If you saw it in a movie, he s a California guy.
6
SPEAKER_02
Or that s where his gym is, I believe.
6
SPEAKER_02
Oh, he s so dangerous, dude.
6
SPEAKER_02
Raymond Daniels, watch this.
6
SPEAKER_02
Boom!
6
SPEAKER_02
I mean, come on, son.
6
SPEAKER_02
That is crazy.
6
SPEAKER_02
That s a crazy thing to watch.
6
SPEAKER_02
How do you prepare for that?
6
SPEAKER_02
How do you prepare?
6
SPEAKER_02
And in Bellator, he has one of the wildest knockouts, excuse me, not Bellator, in glory, in glory kickboxing, he has this touch side kick, jump spinning back kick to the face.
7
SPEAKER_02
KO in a high-level kickboxing match man but the way he set it up watch this it s this is a thing of beauty watch this here oh man what what what the fuck is that show that again show that again look at that dude are you fucking kidding me I think he kicked him in his neck but he s still fighting like he s fighting in karate combat yeah that s shirt on
7
SPEAKER_02
Bro, Raymond Daniels.
7
SPEAKER_02
Raymond Daniels, dude.
7
SPEAKER_02
Raymond Daniels, danger.
7
SPEAKER_02
And Raymond Daniels and Michael Venom Page fought, I believe, back in the day in a point fighting match.
7
SPEAKER_02
So those guys that can cover distance like that, that s a different thing, man.
7
SPEAKER_02
It s a different thing.
7
SPEAKER_00
I like that he s part of the UFC, because there s so many nice matchups.
7
SPEAKER_00
At first, I was liking maybe him versus Wonderboy.
7
SPEAKER_00
Then I was thinking about it more, and I m like, wait a minute.
7
SPEAKER_00
It might just be that, but there s a lot of nice matchups and he didn t look like he had those UFC jitters.
7
SPEAKER_00
Not at all.
7
SPEAKER_00
No, he looked like he was enjoying himself.
7
SPEAKER_02
I was impressed.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s really dangerous, man.
7
SPEAKER_02
It s just, it s so tall and such a sniper and just that movement.
7
SPEAKER_02
Good luck finding anybody to emulate that shit in camp.
7
SPEAKER_02
I mean, you gotta get Raymond Daniels.
7
SPEAKER_02
Also, if your whole life is spent fighting at a certain pace and a certain distance, and all of a sudden this guy moves it by 30%.
7
SPEAKER_02
30% is crazy.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s way back here.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s way back here, and he s standing in front of you, and he s moving around.
7
SPEAKER_01
And you try to close the distance, and they re just so fast, they beat you to it.
7
SPEAKER_02
You remember when Liotta Machida knocked out Ryan Bader?
7
SPEAKER_02
Ryan Bader s trying to close the distance, and Liotta just planted a left hand on him.
7
SPEAKER_02
It was like that style is very hard to deal with if someone s really good at it, and they can do the other shit, too Yeah, if they can defend a takedown I m so interested in Jamal Hill and Pineda.
7
SPEAKER_02
I m so interested in that fight.
7
SPEAKER_02
I am so interested in that fight.
7
SPEAKER_02
Do you think his Achilles is straight?
7
SPEAKER_02
Dude, I don t know.
7
SPEAKER_02
I mean, I would assume it is, otherwise he wouldn t be jumping back in.
7
SPEAKER_02
I know it was more than eight months.
7
SPEAKER_02
Is that what they say it takes?
7
SPEAKER_02
How many months ago did Jamal Hill injure his Achilles?
7
SPEAKER_01
I was there at the game he was playing too.
7
SPEAKER_01
They was all playing a basketball game.
7
SPEAKER_01
It s always something stupid.
7
SPEAKER_01
It s never jujitsu.
7
SPEAKER_01
He can hoop though.
7
SPEAKER_01
Jamal Hook will play, and he somehow, some of them, yeah, he could also strike.
7
SPEAKER_02
Okay, so this was in July.
7
SPEAKER_02
So August, September, October, November, December, January, February, March.
7
SPEAKER_02
Ooh, I d like to have more.
7
SPEAKER_02
I need to have a little more.
7
SPEAKER_03
I would assume he s had to be on the BPCs.
7
SPEAKER_02
No, you can t.
7
SPEAKER_02
You can t.
7
SPEAKER_02
Even as an injury?
7
SPEAKER_02
No, you can t.
7
SPEAKER_02
So they can t even get permission to use it?
7
SPEAKER_02
No, you can do stem cells.
7
SPEAKER_02
They can do PRP.
7
SPEAKER_00
They can do a lot of things.
7
SPEAKER_02
It s so silly.
7
SPEAKER_02
He assures Achilles injury fully healed ahead of UFC 300.
7
SPEAKER_02
It s not a problem at all.
7
SPEAKER_00
I don t think he gets enough props, first of all.
7
SPEAKER_00
I think he s a fucking beast.
7
SPEAKER_00
Jamal Hill s fucking dangerous.
7
SPEAKER_00
Watch the fight with Glover.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s pieced Glover up.
7
SPEAKER_02
And Glover is fucking good.
7
SPEAKER_02
To piece him up like that on the feet?
7
SPEAKER_02
Taking away his singles real quick.
7
SPEAKER_02
People underestimate him for some strange reason, and I don t understand it.
7
SPEAKER_02
I ve heard people talk about his power.
7
SPEAKER_02
Watch that Johnny Walker fight.
7
SPEAKER_02
He hit him in the forehead.
7
SPEAKER_00
He was hit by a sniper.
7
SPEAKER_02
The OSP fight?
7
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, man.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s good, man.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s good.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s fucking dangerous.
7
SPEAKER_00
Show me somebody that did something to him standing up, because I m not finding it.
7
SPEAKER_00
That s what I m saying.
7
SPEAKER_00
I think Alex is going to be so confident
7
SPEAKER_00
You know, shit happens.
7
SPEAKER_00
But I think Alex is going to be so confident because of all his kickboxing and everything else that with these little gloves, I think Jamal s going to surprise him.
7
SPEAKER_00
He s going to fucking sharpshoot him.
7
SPEAKER_02
Jamal s a one-punch knockout striker at light heavyweight, for sure.
7
SPEAKER_02
And he s a big, tall dude.
7
SPEAKER_02
And he knows movement.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s fucking dangerous, man.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s good at keeping his range.
7
SPEAKER_02
Bro, he s fucking dangerous.
7
SPEAKER_02
Jamal s dangerous.
7
SPEAKER_02
I mean, a lot of people are picking Pejeta to run him over.
7
SPEAKER_02
Really?
7
SPEAKER_02
Which I think is interesting.
7
SPEAKER_03
I m not sure about that.
7
SPEAKER_02
I m not sure about that, man.
7
SPEAKER_02
Dude, I think this is going to be a great fight.
7
SPEAKER_02
Oh yeah.
7
SPEAKER_02
The thing about Behater though is he s ultra high level.
7
SPEAKER_02
Like people just think about only his power and you only think about like, cause he s got that, he s got the most insane touch of death.
7
SPEAKER_02
It s insane.
7
SPEAKER_02
He just sleeps people with everything.
7
SPEAKER_02
But when you see his movement and that sneaky shit he does where he gets that calf kick off, you don t see, you don t see shit man.
7
SPEAKER_02
You don t see shit.
7
SPEAKER_02
And when he checks his kicks, he doesn t check them.
7
SPEAKER_02
He gets his foot like a hacky sack position.
7
SPEAKER_02
He lifts his shin up so you re just sliding under it.
7
SPEAKER_02
You ain t getting shit.
7
SPEAKER_02
And he s coming down with the right hand every time.
7
SPEAKER_01
He s good, man.
7
SPEAKER_01
He s fucking good.
7
SPEAKER_01
I think the speed of Jamal Hill is gonna be the difference.
7
SPEAKER_01
As long as he has it and that Achilles doesn t hinder him.
7
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, well, god damn it would suck if he came in at 70%.
7
SPEAKER_02
Oh shit, not 100.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s gonna need to be 100.
7
SPEAKER_02
The thing is, there s gotta be a lot of pressure to be UFC 300.
7
SPEAKER_02
And you might be like, I can do it, I can do it.
7
SPEAKER_02
I don t know.
7
SPEAKER_02
I m hoping it s 100%.
7
SPEAKER_02
I just hope they for sure got him some stem cells.
7
SPEAKER_02
And I would imagine, you know, he s an elite UFC world championship caliber athlete.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s the world champ.
7
SPEAKER_02
He just relinquished his title.
7
SPEAKER_01
No doubt.
7
SPEAKER_02
I mean, he s fighting for his title, essentially, right?
7
SPEAKER_02
Because he didn t lose.
7
SPEAKER_02
He gave it up.
7
SPEAKER_02
He got injured.
7
SPEAKER_02
I bet he only gave it up because Uri gave it up too.
7
SPEAKER_02
I mean it s basically what he said when he gave it up.
7
SPEAKER_03
It s kind of like warrior s code.
7
SPEAKER_03
He said Uri got out of the way.
7
SPEAKER_03
I m going to get out of the way.
7
SPEAKER_03
I m not going to hold up the division.
7
SPEAKER_01
And that s why I like them guys because what other division would do that?
7
SPEAKER_01
What other guys?
7
SPEAKER_01
I don t think anybody else would do that.
7
SPEAKER_02
Well, those guys are warriors.
7
SPEAKER_02
That is a warrior division.
7
SPEAKER_02
Even Uri, who thought the fight was prematurely stopped, he wouldn t say it inside the octagon.
7
SPEAKER_00
Right, he was just like, yeah.
7
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, afterwards he said he could have continued.
7
SPEAKER_00
I hate when guys are bitching right afterwards or they start talking about the injuries they had and everything.
7
SPEAKER_02
That one was a close one, though.
7
SPEAKER_02
When you watch that one, you re like, ooh, you could have one or two more seconds.
7
SPEAKER_02
Close, but I thought it was a fair stoppage, too.
7
SPEAKER_02
Yes, I thought fair stoppage, too.
7
SPEAKER_02
Same doctor Aaron Rodgers had.
7
SPEAKER_02
Oh, okay.
7
SPEAKER_02
Went to the right guy, right?
7
SPEAKER_02
I bet Jamal got all the good stuff.
7
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
7
SPEAKER_02
Well, that s good, then.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s gonna need it.
7
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, Aaron Rodgers was he was practicing quite a bit.
7
SPEAKER_02
He said like his strength of the leg wasn t the same, his ability to push off it wasn t the same, but it was getting a lot better.
7
SPEAKER_02
I just don t want Jamal to be compromised in any way in that fight.
7
SPEAKER_02
It s such a big fight.
7
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but like I said, man, his speed and his instincts and his vision, it s just different.
7
SPEAKER_03
And he s got that boxing punching set where he throws straight where Pejeta s a little loopier.
7
SPEAKER_02
Well, Pejeta does fight with his hands way low, too, and he kind of lures guys into these slugfests because he s got such insane counterpower.
7
SPEAKER_00
His one loss, Jamal Hill, is from that fuckin  armored triangle from Paul Craig.
7
SPEAKER_02
That could happen to anybody.
7
SPEAKER_02
Paul Craig has one of the most dangerous guards in any fuckin  division.
7
SPEAKER_00
Period.
7
SPEAKER_00
I love it.
7
SPEAKER_02
Period.
7
SPEAKER_02
Full stop.
7
SPEAKER_02
I know.
7
SPEAKER_02
Remember he caught Ancalaya one second ago in the fight?
7
SPEAKER_02
One second ago he catches him in the triangle.
7
SPEAKER_01
How does he got wins over Jamal Hill and Ankalyev?
7
SPEAKER_01
That s how good his guard is.
7
SPEAKER_02
His guard is sensational.
7
SPEAKER_02
His guard is what everybody s guard should strive to be.
7
SPEAKER_02
Exactly.
7
SPEAKER_00
That s what I love and it ll never go out of style no matter what happens with jiu-jitsu.
7
SPEAKER_00
At my school, I have everybody doing the latest fucking leg locks.
7
SPEAKER_00
This is a horrible one because he broke his arm too.
7
SPEAKER_02
His arm is completely flopping around.
7
SPEAKER_02
It s already broken by this point.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s still trying to fight though, that s the fucking- Oh, Jamal s an animal.
7
SPEAKER_02
Look at it, he s still not- He s such a warrior, dude.
7
SPEAKER_02
They stopped the fight, he wasn t quitting.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s a beast.
7
SPEAKER_02
And his arm is fucked.
7
SPEAKER_00
He just looks at it.
7
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, he s fucked.
7
SPEAKER_02
Remember what it looked like when it was going backwards?
7
SPEAKER_02
It was horrific, man.
7
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah.
7
SPEAKER_00
It was horrific.
7
SPEAKER_00
I think he s winning the fight, to be honest with you.
7
SPEAKER_00
I do.
7
SPEAKER_00
And I like Alex.
7
SPEAKER_00
Really?
7
SPEAKER_00
I swear I think he s winning.
7
SPEAKER_02
Listen, I think it s a very interesting fight.
7
SPEAKER_02
The odds are real close on it.
7
SPEAKER_02
It should be.
7
SPEAKER_02
I think it s a pick-em fight.
7
SPEAKER_02
Me too.
7
SPEAKER_02
I can see a bunch of scenarios going both ways.
7
SPEAKER_02
I think people are underestimating Jamal.
7
SPEAKER_02
The thing is, though, Jamal does
7
SPEAKER_02
Stand with like almost like a boxing stance sometimes.
7
SPEAKER_02
I wonder how good he s gonna be of getting away from the calf kick That is such a primary weapon in pajamas because he s so fucking sneaky with it And even though everybody knows that he s sneaky with it.
7
SPEAKER_01
It s still hard to you can t defend it The one thing about him he s smart though Jamal is a very intelligent fighter for a young guy He s very cerebral and he I think he understands that that might be a problem So he should have an answer for it early
7
SPEAKER_01
Mm-hmm.
7
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, you gotta have an answer for that.
7
SPEAKER_02
He s got all these combinations that he sets up that are based on your reaction to certain movements And it does he like repeats these patterns and fights and it s always surprising.
7
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, he
8
SPEAKER_03
You see like the way he s able to land those things is so surprising and he s just got this very specific strategy I m gonna kill that leg and Then you re fucked and I hit really hard and you re not gonna be able to get out of the way Did you ever get hit with one of those calf kicks?
8
SPEAKER_01
No me neither.
8
SPEAKER_01
I m happy.
8
SPEAKER_01
I didn t know Play kick me and it hurts like hell
8
SPEAKER_02
I did before they were a thing, and I think it was my fight against Josh Neer.
8
SPEAKER_03
He seemed like the dude who would use a calf kick.
8
SPEAKER_02
But they weren t a thing.
8
SPEAKER_02
I think it was an accident, and he kicked me in the calf, and I swear I thought my leg was broke.
8
SPEAKER_02
Wow.
8
SPEAKER_02
I was like, I couldn t walk.
8
SPEAKER_02
I thought my leg was broke.
8
SPEAKER_02
Now imagine Pejeta.
8
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, I know.
8
SPEAKER_02
I don t know how to deal with that.
8
SPEAKER_03
He fucked up Jan Bohović s shit.
8
SPEAKER_03
Jan Bohović is literally made out of rocks.
8
SPEAKER_03
He s made out of rocks.
8
SPEAKER_03
I guarantee you if they do some bone density, he s got some fucking Viking rock bones.
8
SPEAKER_03
He s a beast.
8
SPEAKER_03
That dude hits so goddamn hard.
8
SPEAKER_02
Hey, but what about the BMF?
8
SPEAKER_03
You re not really interested in that one.
8
SPEAKER_03
I am interested in that you know why I m interested in that because people are counting max out.
8
SPEAKER_03
I m not I think max might win Max has had a lot of times to a lot of time to prepare Justin s a 230 favorite I would not take that can I just say that they were that based on a lot of that shit on his fight verse Dustin Poirier right if you hear my opinion
8
SPEAKER_01
If you hear Max talk about it, he had only six weeks to prepare for that thing.
8
SPEAKER_01
And he was doing this for like 10 or so weeks.
8
SPEAKER_01
And I don t know, man, Max is an intelligent guy.
8
SPEAKER_01
I was there, we were there live, when he fought Calvin Cater.
8
SPEAKER_01
And he s looking away, I m the best boxer!
8
SPEAKER_01
And he moves his head and he fucking hits it.
8
SPEAKER_03
And you and you remember where Dana was Dana was like somebody to stop this Dana was like scared He put a real beating on Calvin that takes a long time to recover from I mean the amount of punches that he landed on Calvin were insane my thing with the Dustin and Max fight was I thought Dustin just physically
8
SPEAKER_00
I think that s going to be a problem.
8
SPEAKER_00
If that if my perceptions right then that would be a problem because I think Justin stronger and more of a bully and his leg kicks which Max never seems to check.
8
SPEAKER_00
I think his leg kicks could present a problem.
8
SPEAKER_00
That could be a real problem.
8
SPEAKER_03
Because he had a problem with that with Volkanovski.
8
SPEAKER_03
And the thing about Gaethje is, Gaethje lands them in the clinch.
8
SPEAKER_00
He can be standing like next to you.
8
SPEAKER_03
His hip flexibility is insane.
8
SPEAKER_03
It s insane.
8
SPEAKER_03
This was such a beating.
8
SPEAKER_03
This was a beating, man.
8
SPEAKER_03
This was wild, man.
8
SPEAKER_03
This is wild live because it was it was during the and Calvin Cater.
8
SPEAKER_03
I mean, he s a fucking dangerous dude.
8
SPEAKER_03
He s got real good boxing and he just couldn t touch Max.
8
SPEAKER_01
I see a single for Aljo.
8
SPEAKER_00
I told you old Binky Jones type cater back in the day.
8
SPEAKER_00
That was his first loss.
8
SPEAKER_00
Binky Jones?
8
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, one of my guys.
8
SPEAKER_03
James Binky Jones.
8
SPEAKER_03
One of the reasons why I m interested in this is because I think Max is going to go into this fight with a tremendous amount of
8
SPEAKER_03
Anticipation this is not a fight that you you don t get real scared about this is this is a fight You got a really fucking prepare and when max gets pushed you see the best man.
8
SPEAKER_03
He s still what is he 33?
8
SPEAKER_03
He s one of the young yeah, Max He started is what 19 we really kind of put aside when a guy loses the title that maybe they re not as good as they used to be
8
SPEAKER_03
But Max keeps getting better.
8
SPEAKER_01
Not to mention his nuts.
8
SPEAKER_01
I mean, let s think about when he was going to fight Habib on 24 Hours.
8
SPEAKER_01
Oh, yeah.
8
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
8
SPEAKER_00
He s one of my favorite guys, without a doubt.
8
SPEAKER_00
One of my favorite fighters.
8
SPEAKER_03
He s a beast, and he s a sweetheart of a guy.
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, right.
8
SPEAKER_00
The nicest guy.
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, no doubt.
8
SPEAKER_03
Nicest guys.
8
SPEAKER_03
And he talked openly about why guys like Conor, why those guys gas out.
8
SPEAKER_03
Guys like Aldo.
8
SPEAKER_03
He was like, they got too much power, man.
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
8
SPEAKER_03
Hey, did you see Roadhouse?
8
SPEAKER_03
I did not see Roadhouse.
8
SPEAKER_03
Is it good?
8
SPEAKER_03
I seen Roadhouse.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I liked it.
8
SPEAKER_01
You liked it?
8
SPEAKER_03
On a one to ten, how high were you?
8
SPEAKER_01
Oh, you know.
8
SPEAKER_01
Compared to what?
8
SPEAKER_01
Like, normally?
8
SPEAKER_01
No, no, it s fun.
8
SPEAKER_01
It s like an 80s type movie.
8
SPEAKER_01
It s a little, like, silly in a way.
8
SPEAKER_01
Like, you know, it s not too serious in a sense.
8
SPEAKER_01
But it s fun.
8
SPEAKER_01
I like Jake.
8
SPEAKER_01
Jake, he s likeable.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, Jake carried the movie.
8
SPEAKER_01
And let me tell you, Connor,
8
SPEAKER_01
What an actor, I mean... He did his self.
8
SPEAKER_01
Did his fucking self!
8
SPEAKER_01
Cut down the drunk, it was fucking brilliant.
8
SPEAKER_01
People are like, yo, what an actor, he s gonna take the world, Hollywood by storm.
8
SPEAKER_01
He s playing himself, basically.
8
SPEAKER_03
Right, but couldn t he play himself in a bunch of movies?
8
SPEAKER_03
I bet Guy Ritchie s on speed dial with him right now.
8
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, right, yeah.
8
SPEAKER_02
I mean, but all he had was a lot of one-liners, so it s easy to
8
SPEAKER_02
To deliver one-liners, right?
8
SPEAKER_02
Listen to me.
8
SPEAKER_03
Conor McGregor could be a movie star.
8
SPEAKER_03
Easy.
8
100%.
8
SPEAKER_03
If The Rock can do it, you don t think Conor McGregor can do it?
8
SPEAKER_02
For sure.
8
SPEAKER_03
He got the discipline to do it.
8
SPEAKER_03
100% he could do it.
8
SPEAKER_03
And he s a character, man.
8
SPEAKER_01
Look at him.
8
SPEAKER_03
Look at him.
8
SPEAKER_01
He s a fucking character, dude.
8
SPEAKER_01
I like the part in the movie when he takes the trolley and he throws it into the ... Oh, no.
8
SPEAKER_01
That s a different ... Oh, no.
8
SPEAKER_01
He s a fucking ... Listen, I liked him in the movie, though.
8
SPEAKER_01
He didn t take you out of the movie.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I thought the movie was cool.
8
SPEAKER_01
You know?
8
SPEAKER_01
It was fun.
8
SPEAKER_03
I would definitely watch it.
8
SPEAKER_03
It s like a fun ... I m going to get to about nine.
8
SPEAKER_03
It s not the original, but ... On a one to ten, I ll get to about nine.
8
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, get to about nine.
8
SPEAKER_02
It s a bit corny, but... I like a corny movie.
8
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, if you like corny movies and just want to be entertained, it s the perfect movie.
8
SPEAKER_03
Bro, I loved the first Roadhouse.
8
SPEAKER_02
That s corny as shit.
8
SPEAKER_02
There was no Sam Elliott in this one.
8
SPEAKER_03
Why didn t they have a Sam Elliott character?
8
SPEAKER_02
That disappointed me.
8
SPEAKER_03
That s true, that s true.
8
SPEAKER_03
Why wouldn t they have a Sam?
8
SPEAKER_03
They should get that guy from Yellowstone.
8
SPEAKER_03
That old dude with the mustache from Yellowstone, right?
8
SPEAKER_00
What s that guy s name?
8
SPEAKER_00
He s a real cowboy.
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, that s a real cowboy.
8
SPEAKER_03
No, not Rip.
8
SPEAKER_03
Rip is dead.
8
SPEAKER_00
The other dude.
8
SPEAKER_00
The older guy.
8
SPEAKER_03
He looks like Sam Elliott.
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, he would be perfect.
8
SPEAKER_01
I have a Sam Elliott.
8
SPEAKER_01
I m on the last season of Yellowstone.
8
SPEAKER_03
Why didn t they just get actual Sam Elliott?
8
SPEAKER_03
I like Yellowstone.
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, have Sam Elliott come back.
8
SPEAKER_03
Patrick Swayze s dead, but have actual Sam Elliott come back?
8
SPEAKER_03
He was a handsome fellow back then with that salt and pepper hair.
8
SPEAKER_03
He s a real Marlboro man.
8
SPEAKER_03
For sure, son.
8
SPEAKER_03
What a voice that guy s got.
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, my favorite was the baseball crew
8
SPEAKER_01
Listen, we talked about Star Wars a little bit.
8
SPEAKER_01
Fuck Star Wars ever since, what s that chick?
8
SPEAKER_01
Kathleen Kennedy.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I love the South Park thing.
8
SPEAKER_00
Put a chicken in, make a gay and leave.
8
SPEAKER_01
That s exactly what the fuck they re doing.
8
SPEAKER_01
Cartman hit the nail on the head.
8
SPEAKER_01
But fuck all that shit.
8
SPEAKER_01
The new Star Wars, fuck all that.
8
SPEAKER_01
And it s pre-Star Wars.
8
SPEAKER_01
Did you see Dune and Dune Part II?
8
SPEAKER_01
No.
8
SPEAKER_01
Man, you got it.
8
SPEAKER_02
Do you see it?
8
SPEAKER_02
I saw part one.
8
SPEAKER_02
I fell asleep.
8
SPEAKER_02
You fucking idiot.
8
SPEAKER_02
I couldn t help it.
8
SPEAKER_02
I m sorry.
8
SPEAKER_02
Wow.
8
SPEAKER_02
No, it s okay.
8
SPEAKER_02
I don t know.
8
SPEAKER_01
I m sorry.
8
SPEAKER_01
That was mean, right?
8
SPEAKER_01
Sometimes you get tired.
8
SPEAKER_01
That was mean.
8
SPEAKER_01
Sometimes people get tired.
8
SPEAKER_01
I was tired, man.
8
SPEAKER_01
I work all day.
8
SPEAKER_01
Listen to me.
8
SPEAKER_01
Sometimes people get tired.
8
SPEAKER_01
Joe, these movies are so fucking good.
8
SPEAKER_01
Really?
8
SPEAKER_01
Okay, I m excited.
8
SPEAKER_01
I see them.
8
SPEAKER_01
I m telling you right now.
8
SPEAKER_01
Josh Brolin s, first of all, I don t think Josh, from Goonies to that, he s never in anything bad.
8
SPEAKER_01
Josh Brolin.
8
SPEAKER_01
He s fucking awesome.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, he s a man.
8
SPEAKER_01
Momoa was in it.
8
SPEAKER_01
I like the, you know, he could do a couple push-ups, but I like the Timothee Chalamet.
8
SPEAKER_01
Chalamet?
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
8
SPEAKER_01
No, he is.
8
SPEAKER_01
He s in Wonka.
8
SPEAKER_01
He s good.
8
SPEAKER_01
But these movies are so, they re like so good.
8
SPEAKER_01
The director, he s a French guy, he also did Blade Runner, the new Blade Runner, which is another very underrated movie.
8
SPEAKER_01
These aren t underrated, these are popular, but Blade Runner is underrated, the new one.
8
SPEAKER_01
He s fucking awesome, man.
8
SPEAKER_01
This guy, what s his name?
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, he s fucking phenomenal, but I ll do one and do part two.
8
SPEAKER_01
We did a rival to do I ll tell you did you see a rival I?
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, but I think I forgot about arrivals the one with the alien.
8
SPEAKER_03
Oh, yeah, that was good.
8
SPEAKER_03
Yeah They speak with like oh, yeah, that s right.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, they like show him.
8
SPEAKER_01
It s fucking dope.
8
SPEAKER_01
I like this June the characters the fucking
8
SPEAKER_01
And it s so good.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I haven t seen the second one yet.
8
SPEAKER_01
And it s so funny.
8
SPEAKER_01
In the first one, I don t want to give it away, but the guy he fights at the end of it is a guy I had a jujitsu match versus, this Babs.
8
SPEAKER_01
I swear to God.
8
SPEAKER_01
I did a drop Sayonara on him.
8
SPEAKER_01
Well, that was your move back then.
8
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, man.
8
SPEAKER_01
If you put in Matt versus Babs, you see me throw at a fucking guy.
8
SPEAKER_01
But he s actually great in the movie.
8
SPEAKER_01
He s great in it.
8
SPEAKER_01
He plays Jamis, part of the Freemen.
8
SPEAKER_01
The Freemen.
8
SPEAKER_01
The Freemen s on Arrakis, and they re on these desert planets, and this big giant worms.
8
SPEAKER_01
Such a nerd.
8
SPEAKER_01
Another nerd guy.
8
SPEAKER_01
Joe, you look like, when I say all this shit, you re looking at me like you want to unfriend me or something.
8
SPEAKER_01
No!
8
SPEAKER_03
You re looking at me like this is a mistake.
8
SPEAKER_03
I m fascinated.
8
SPEAKER_03
There he is!
8
SPEAKER_01
This dude?
8
SPEAKER_01
He s good.
8
SPEAKER_01
I went versus him in a jiu-jitsu match and Minotauro was the ref.
8
SPEAKER_03
Wow.
8
SPEAKER_01
Was that at Niagara?
9
SPEAKER_02
It s Nagger in 1996.
9
SPEAKER_02
If you put in Matt versus Babs, you don t have to, I don t give a fuck, it s not about me, but that guy.
9
SPEAKER_00
Don t get the HD version.
9
SPEAKER_00
Get the HD version, watch us throw.
9
SPEAKER_00
And don t share that video.
9
SPEAKER_02
But I was so happy when I seen him.
9
SPEAKER_02
Well, first of all, look at those abs.
9
SPEAKER_02
But yeah, I mean, you can fold it a little bit.
9
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, you fold it a little bit.
9
SPEAKER_02
After I mount him and he gets up, this is back in the day, yo.
9
SPEAKER_02
This is like a Minotaur was the ref.
9
SPEAKER_02
but uh yeah you can fold it a tiny after i mount them and i get off mount but uh yeah look at that this is old school but uh once i get off mount and he once he right now you can pull it right right after i miss the arm bar
9
SPEAKER_02
But now this is, this is for Paul Atreides.
9
SPEAKER_02
Sorry, if you know it, if you see the movie.
9
SPEAKER_02
Ready?
9
SPEAKER_02
And a one.
9
SPEAKER_02
Damn, you almost had that armbar.
9
SPEAKER_02
I did almost have that, but Henzo got happy for this, because he worked on me with this fucking throw.
9
SPEAKER_00
Boop!
9
SPEAKER_00
That s two points.
9
SPEAKER_02
Hey, what belt was this?
9
SPEAKER_02
This was when I was a brown belt, and he was a purple.
9
SPEAKER_02
Watch one more second, because I do a nice back take.
9
SPEAKER_02
I want Joe to see it, because Joe likes Jiu Jitsu.
9
SPEAKER_02
This was our team versus the Alliance team back in the day.
9
SPEAKER_02
I used to do the same thing on Gomi, but it looks cool because what happens is you go first and it s almost like a second later for him to go, so it looks cool.
9
SPEAKER_02
I love that one.
9
SPEAKER_02
Enough of me, I feel like a brat.
9
SPEAKER_01
That s a fun back take.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, he did that in Abu Dhabi.
9
SPEAKER_01
It s dramatic.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, it s dramatic.
9
SPEAKER_01
So I seen him at the end of the movie.
9
SPEAKER_01
It s also kind of humbling.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
9
SPEAKER_01
Your feet are up in the air, you re like, oh, there we go.
9
SPEAKER_01
It s cool.
9
SPEAKER_01
Everybody s watching.
9
SPEAKER_02
Fuck.
9
SPEAKER_02
But back to the movies, you re going to love these movies, man.
9
SPEAKER_02
They re good, they got good characters, they re deep, and the action is fucking good.
9
SPEAKER_02
I mean, yeah.
9
SPEAKER_02
I believe you.
9
SPEAKER_02
It s good.
9
SPEAKER_01
Give it a chance.
9
SPEAKER_01
But I don t believe Timothee Chalamet is beating this guy in anything other than checkers.
9
SPEAKER_01
I need you to stop right there.
9
SPEAKER_01
He needs to have some kind of superpower.
9
SPEAKER_01
I m not buying none of what I was just saying.
9
SPEAKER_02
You know how in Star Wars, like the Force and all that stuff, Dune by Frank Herbert ... Stop looking at me, John Rollins.
9
SPEAKER_02
John Rollins is like, I want to throw you in a locker.
9
SPEAKER_02
Shut up, Rollins.
9
SPEAKER_02
So these books came out in the 70s and George Lucas got up He took a lot from this they use something called the voice that they control people instead of the force But very cool Josh Brolin for the way to be honest.
9
SPEAKER_01
I like the force a lot more than the voice.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah You don t seem like a movie guy I
9
SPEAKER_01
I like a few movies.
9
SPEAKER_04
But you seem like the type of guy to like to be outside and hunting and catching shit with your hands.
9
SPEAKER_01
Like a good old white boy just out there.
9
SPEAKER_01
I like doing things.
9
SPEAKER_01
If you spend too much time watching movies it s like time you can t be actually doing actual things.
9
SPEAKER_01
I think of it as a reward.
9
SPEAKER_01
If I m gonna watch a movie it s like I busted my ass all week.
9
SPEAKER_01
I could watch a movie.
9
SPEAKER_02
Fucking you know to kill boredom like I might my family went to Texas recently Dallas to go visit my sister-in-law And I was by myself and when you have you know the deal Joe when you have three kids and a and a wife and you got a routine
9
SPEAKER_02
It s different when there s nobody home and shit.
9
SPEAKER_02
So I m like, I m just sitting there, there s only so much VR you can play, you know what I mean?
9
SPEAKER_02
So I go to the movies by yourself.
9
SPEAKER_02
When you go to the movies by yourself in Long Island, it feels different than the city.
9
SPEAKER_05
In the city I do the- Yeah, you feel like a pervert.
9
SPEAKER_05
Yeah, you feel like a pervert.
9
SPEAKER_02
It s like some fucking creeper rubbing his dick in the middle of a Goonies movie.
9
SPEAKER_02
So I m in there by myself watching- Watching Frozen.
9
SPEAKER_02
What the fuck?
9
I m watching this.
9
SPEAKER_05
Let it go, let it go.
9
SPEAKER_02
Disney movies suck, man.
9
SPEAKER_02
So I watched that fucking thing twice.
9
SPEAKER_02
Wow.
9
SPEAKER_02
Dune twice by yourself?
9
SPEAKER_02
Three hour movies.
9
SPEAKER_02
Don t say I don t have a life.
9
SPEAKER_02
I have a nice life.
9
SPEAKER_02
That s incredible.
9
SPEAKER_02
Listen, you know what I could do?
9
SPEAKER_02
I could be out getting in trouble.
9
SPEAKER_01
My VR, my nerdiness.
9
SPEAKER_01
No bar fights.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, just VR.
9
SPEAKER_01
You re much better off doing what you re doing.
9
SPEAKER_02
I could have went another route.
9
SPEAKER_02
My wife really, and let me tell you, I didn t tell you this last time, Joe, and he knows, my wife at 40 years old had an MMA fight.
9
SPEAKER_02
I saw it.
9
SPEAKER_02
I saw it online.
9
SPEAKER_01
She won.
9
SPEAKER_02
It was fucking phenomenal.
9
SPEAKER_02
It was crazy.
9
SPEAKER_02
I was like, what is Matt Sarah doing in his house?
9
SPEAKER_01
I know, right?
9
SPEAKER_01
It s funny that at a later age, as a mother,
9
SPEAKER_02
Husband of a guy was a world champion decides to just start fighting She never threw a punch when I got when when I won the title she never threw a punch It wasn t she do the kickboxing between each door to lose weight and
9
SPEAKER_02
And then she took a kickboxing match on the Lou Neglia, our buddy, who I used to fight under, you know?
9
SPEAKER_02
And she was, didn t she become three in a row?
9
SPEAKER_02
This is my wife s fight, look at this.
9
SPEAKER_02
This is me and her before.
9
SPEAKER_02
Is that you with the blue shirt?
9
SPEAKER_02
You re a son of a bitch.
9
SPEAKER_02
That used to be, that was it.
9
SPEAKER_02
You know what?
9
SPEAKER_02
Before Gluten Free, that was you.
9
SPEAKER_02
That s when Dana used to say, oh, it looks like you ate Matt Sara, you fuck.
9
SPEAKER_02
But yeah, that was me.
9
SPEAKER_02
But I was so proud of her, man.
9
SPEAKER_02
She got out of the cage.
9
SPEAKER_02
Longo s the one who greeted her at the fucking thing.
9
SPEAKER_02
Look, she s fighting a purple belt from Virginia here.
9
SPEAKER_02
And again, she never did any kind of sports in high school.
9
SPEAKER_02
I mean, if you see her standing up, she s like doing a fucking clinic, man.
9
SPEAKER_02
She snaps down, she takes the back, and you know, she s a blue belt, she fought a purple belt, it was always that last, that chance of the girl.
9
SPEAKER_02
You know, doing something, and you never know how these things go.
9
SPEAKER_02
So she s one and done.
9
SPEAKER_02
I m happy she s done with it.
9
SPEAKER_02
She did it.
9
SPEAKER_02
That s awesome.
9
SPEAKER_02
It s nice for my daughters to see.
9
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
9
SPEAKER_02
And now I m saving myself from all the shit I said earlier about the fucking girls with the fucking... No, I m only kidding.
9
SPEAKER_02
No, my wife... No, I m just really proud of her.
9
SPEAKER_02
It was really nice.
9
SPEAKER_01
That s amazing.
9
SPEAKER_01
What a crazy aspiration at that age, just to say, fuck it.
9
Yeah.
9
SPEAKER_00
Fucking crazy, but I saw like clips of like your daughter helping her train, and I mean what a cool like The whole setup with the school and all like he s like his family s part of it now, and it happened naturally Yeah, he didn t like drag them in and say I ll do this some his girls were dancing and yeah my oldest just left dance to like pursue it full-time and now she s got a like a jiu-jitsu max net next munch next month at the Same place with my wife for it.
9
SPEAKER_02
It s cool.
9
SPEAKER_02
She s on the looneggle you have an event and
9
SPEAKER_02
It s cool.
9
SPEAKER_02
And again, what I found with having a kid is you can t make them love it, but you can make them hate it.
9
SPEAKER_02
I never tried to be like, I used to always just play with them, play with them, but now they re living at the school.
9
SPEAKER_02
It s so cool.
9
SPEAKER_01
It s so fucking cool.
9
SPEAKER_02
Family business, you know?
9
SPEAKER_02
Dean, have any new kids lately?
9
SPEAKER_05
Sorry, Dean.
9
SPEAKER_04
No kids for me.
9
SPEAKER_04
I got one.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, he s doing good, though.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
9
SPEAKER_01
College kid.
9
SPEAKER_01
Shout out, Ethan.
9
SPEAKER_01
So what are the other interesting fights on 300?
9
SPEAKER_01
You get the BMF fight you got the versus yon chow non That should be watched on weight.
9
SPEAKER_01
Lee is a mom.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, thank you every time.
9
SPEAKER_03
I m at the PI.
9
SPEAKER_03
She s always there She s never not training when I m there
9
SPEAKER_01
This is the dark horse, Olivera and Saryuki.
9
SPEAKER_01
Let s talk about that.
9
SPEAKER_01
What do you think about that?
9
SPEAKER_01
That Saryuki dude is a dangerous motherfucker, but so is Olivera.
9
SPEAKER_01
Olivera is the wildest turnaround of any fighter of all time.
9
SPEAKER_01
At one point in time, he would fall short a lot.
9
SPEAKER_01
He taps the strikes to Paul Felder, and then comes back and just knocks everybody out.
9
SPEAKER_01
And just annihilates everyone, and has no fear.
9
SPEAKER_01
It s a good different human being was like reborn inside of his body because he was no not known for it But he was known to be able to break.
9
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, so but he s like if that s in him it stays in him It hasn t been in him for a while.
9
SPEAKER_01
No, it s been smashing.
9
SPEAKER_01
Everybody may smash Gaethje.
9
SPEAKER_01
He smashed these fighting Yes, yeah be Gaethje.
9
SPEAKER_01
He d be who else would he be Chandler Chandler
9
SPEAKER_01
Look, the Chandler one was crazy, too, because he got hurt real bad in the first round.
9
SPEAKER_01
It s just also the power that he has is very unusual.
9
SPEAKER_01
He loses to Makachev.
9
SPEAKER_01
That s right, he beat Poirier.
9
SPEAKER_01
I mean, come on, son.
9
SPEAKER_01
Beat Chandler, Poirier, and Gaetje in a row.
9
SPEAKER_01
I mean, that s wild.
9
SPEAKER_02
I fell for Benio on that fight, man, because Benio was doing so, like, Benio wasn t afraid to face him down there.
9
SPEAKER_02
A lot of guys are afraid to go down there with him to the floor.
9
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
9
SPEAKER_02
And, you know, rightfully so, because I just watched recently his fight with Kevin Lee again.
9
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
9
SPEAKER_02
And Kevin Lee thought he d be okay down there, and fuck, man, you re fighting off one, you re fighting to get out of an arm, he s on your neck, out of the neck, he s on your leg.
9
SPEAKER_02
That was the one where Kevin didn t realize he went out.
9
SPEAKER_01
And he tapped.
9
SPEAKER_01
He didn t realize he tapped.
9
SPEAKER_02
I m feeling, I think, uh... I think that Arman s gonna take him, I think he will take him down, and I wonder how that s gonna go.
9
SPEAKER_00
That s what I m waiting to see.
9
SPEAKER_00
Very interesting fight.
9
SPEAKER_00
If Charles is able to get on top of him, like Gamrat was able to, like, to control him on the ground, and you can t leave Charles going like that.
9
SPEAKER_00
But then, literally, he just did a Daryush.
9
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah.
9
SPEAKER_00
Look what Arman just did to Benich.
9
SPEAKER_00
Benil.
10
SPEAKER_01
whacked the Neal too in the first round.
10
SPEAKER_01
He did too.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, he did too.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s an interesting fight.
10
SPEAKER_01
Isn t it crazy that you got Bo Nickel, who s only had how many MMA fights?
10
SPEAKER_01
Four, five.
10
SPEAKER_01
And he s on the main card.
10
SPEAKER_02
I mean, here s my thing with him, man.
10
SPEAKER_02
I think he s going to be great.
10
SPEAKER_02
I think he s going to be a great fighter.
10
SPEAKER_02
For sure.
10
SPEAKER_02
I don t like how he talks about already accomplished fighters who ve been through it.
10
SPEAKER_02
What does he say?
10
SPEAKER_02
Like, I mean, he s always talking about, oh, me and Khamzat will be an easy fight, and this, that, and the third.
10
SPEAKER_02
I m like, yo, dude, like, you got four fights, and you got help with those fights.
10
SPEAKER_00
And we haven t seen you get stuck on your feet yet.
10
SPEAKER_02
I mean, yeah, I mean, but the thing is, like, even his opponents, like, you know, Jamie Pickett, like, even Cody Brunch.
10
SPEAKER_02
Cody Brunch is known to fold in fights.
10
SPEAKER_02
Like, he s fighting guys that are folding.
10
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, well, maybe they see a future champion in the competition in the right way.
10
SPEAKER_00
I get it, but what I m saying is- I think they re trying to bring him along.
10
SPEAKER_02
But, I mean, you could bring them along, but don t, if you in that position, don t talk about guys that had to go through it.
10
SPEAKER_01
I hear you.
10
SPEAKER_01
But isn t it interesting that some fighters, they decide to bring along.
10
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
10
SPEAKER_01
And others are victims of their success.
10
SPEAKER_01
Look what s on the undercard.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yuri Prohaska.
10
SPEAKER_01
Look at this.
10
SPEAKER_01
This is the undercard.
10
SPEAKER_01
Prohaska versus Rakege.
10
SPEAKER_01
That s wild as it is.
10
SPEAKER_01
Wild.
10
SPEAKER_01
Wild fight.
10
SPEAKER_01
Calvin Cater and Aljo.
10
SPEAKER_01
Holly Holm and Kayla Harrison.
10
SPEAKER_01
Let s talk about that.
10
SPEAKER_01
What do you think of that?
10
SPEAKER_01
Can she make the weight?
10
SPEAKER_01
I like Holly.
10
SPEAKER_01
What was she fighting at? 155.
10
SPEAKER_02
There s no way she doesn t make the way she s a complete professional, but how she performs is gonna be tough.
10
SPEAKER_01
I just think Diego Lopez, bro.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yo, that dude is a killer.
10
SPEAKER_01
He s a killer.
10
SPEAKER_01
That s a future world champion caliber fighter.
10
SPEAKER_00
No doubt about that.
10
SPEAKER_00
He s a straight up killer.
10
SPEAKER_00
Sadiq, he s fought for me back in the day on Shogun.
10
SPEAKER_01
Excellent.
10
SPEAKER_01
That s a good fight.
10
SPEAKER_01
Jalen Turner and Hanato Mokano.
10
SPEAKER_01
Look at all these other fights that aren t on the main card.
10
SPEAKER_01
Jim Miller, listen to Jim Miller.
10
SPEAKER_01
Jim Miller on UFC 300.
10
SPEAKER_01
Davidson Figueredo with Cody Garbrandt, that opens up the fights.
10
SPEAKER_02
That s crazy.
10
SPEAKER_01
That is the craziest card of all time.
10
SPEAKER_02
That s the first fight on the prelims.
10
SPEAKER_01
That is the craziest card of all time in human history.
10
SPEAKER_00
I was shocked when I saw that was the first prelim fight.
10
SPEAKER_01
This fucking card is bananas, man.
10
SPEAKER_01
Scroll up a little bit more, Jamie.
10
SPEAKER_01
I mean that is wild dude.
10
SPEAKER_01
That is a wild undercard Do you think Holly s gonna be able to deal with that grappling in the physical strength?
10
SPEAKER_01
Kayla is a monster.
10
SPEAKER_00
I mean like we already saw her do it with Rhonda, not that she s as big
10
SPEAKER_00
I think Ronda s a better grappler than Kayla on the ground, transitioning to submissions and things.
10
SPEAKER_00
I just watched Kayla fight Aspen Ladd and look like dog shit, personally.
10
SPEAKER_00
That s one of my guys on the PFL card, and she struggled.
10
SPEAKER_00
She got swept against that girl and stuff.
10
SPEAKER_00
I don t think Holly can grapple with her for sure, but I don t think Holly s going to be so easy to take down because she requires the clinch to get her down.
10
SPEAKER_00
And Holly s a big, strong chick.
10
SPEAKER_00
I mean, I know she s 42 now, so maybe the age becomes a factor, but if she can just keep range, she s going to win on her feet.
10
SPEAKER_00
So, I mean, I have to see Kayla take her down.
10
SPEAKER_00
I just don t think it s going to be so easy.
10
SPEAKER_01
And if Holly doesn t feel a threat on her feet, Holly might start lighting her up, you know what I mean?
10
SPEAKER_03
I seen Kayla fight, I don t know who the girl was, but I don t think she- The Brazilian girl shut her down.
10
SPEAKER_00
That s what I m saying, a Brazilian, that s who it was.
10
SPEAKER_03
She didn t do shit with her.
10
SPEAKER_03
On the floor, she didn t do shit with her.
10
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
10
SPEAKER_03
And right here, she s fighting a soccer mom.
10
SPEAKER_01
Right, and if you back up, back up before that.
10
SPEAKER_01
Oh, it s Aspen Ladd?
10
SPEAKER_01
I m sorry, Aspen Ladd.
10
SPEAKER_01
I m sorry, I didn t know it was Aspen Ladd.
10
SPEAKER_01
But if you look at the way she s throwing punches on her feet.
10
SPEAKER_01
She s gonna stick a German Shepherd s on me.
10
SPEAKER_01
It s not good.
10
SPEAKER_01
She s not a striker, right?
10
SPEAKER_01
She wants this.
10
SPEAKER_01
But in these grappling exchanges, she s gonna be a fucking handful.
10
SPEAKER_01
I mean, this is where I m kind of excited.
10
SPEAKER_02
But we don t know how the weight is gonna affect her.
10
SPEAKER_01
Well, if she did it right, it might actually help.
10
SPEAKER_01
You know, probably help her gas tank tremendously.
10
SPEAKER_00
Like in this fight, she never put her in danger.
10
SPEAKER_00
Never put her in danger.
10
SPEAKER_01
It really just depends on how much muscle she loses, you know, and how much strength training she continues to do.
10
SPEAKER_01
Like, you don t get that big without a lot of strength training.
10
SPEAKER_01
You know, Holly s got a lot of experience.
10
SPEAKER_01
I mean, a lot of it is, of course, judo, right?
10
SPEAKER_01
A lot of the throwing around.
10
SPEAKER_01
Bigger arms than Rallo.
10
SPEAKER_01
She s a tank.
10
SPEAKER_01
But that comes at a requirement.
10
SPEAKER_01
There s a lot of oxygen to get sucked up by those.
10
SPEAKER_01
That s what s interesting when you watch guys get older and they get more economical like Yoel.
10
SPEAKER_01
Mm-hmm got way more economical about how and when to move But put guys to sleep because they forgot that he could just explode on right right every time in the wide in the wide in the flying knee Right, right.
10
SPEAKER_01
He would just just jump on dudes and you didn t expect it coming It s like, you know, cuz he would chill and just sit back sit back sit back
10
SPEAKER_01
That s funny they really not to bring that up, but they really fucked Tim Kennedy back in a day for that That was crazy that was fucked up that was crazy It was like an extra how many seconds my man was 39 seconds That s a
10
SPEAKER_01
And then there s the mental break that comes from thinking that you won because the guy s not getting off the stool and then you got to fight again.
10
SPEAKER_01
Oh, yeah, and then Yoel caught him.
10
SPEAKER_01
And the thing about Yoel is he can catch anybody.
10
SPEAKER_01
He can catch anybody.
10
SPEAKER_01
Remember when he caught Machida?
10
SPEAKER_01
The Machida knockout was terrifying.
10
SPEAKER_01
Bro, it s like everybody else is a child.
10
SPEAKER_01
People just go flying.
10
SPEAKER_01
Everybody else is like a child.
10
SPEAKER_01
Is this the end of the fight?
10
SPEAKER_03
I wanted to see when Tim was winning.
10
SPEAKER_01
I mean, come on, man.
10
SPEAKER_01
This is some bullshit.
10
SPEAKER_01
So this is it right here.
10
SPEAKER_01
So Tim Kanek, look at him.
10
SPEAKER_01
He s got him hurt there.
10
SPEAKER_01
Boom.
10
SPEAKER_01
He s got him hurt.
10
SPEAKER_01
Bad.
10
SPEAKER_01
And then the bell rings.
10
SPEAKER_01
So he goes back, I mean, Yoel s on the verge of going out.
10
SPEAKER_01
Like, look, he goes back, but they gave him all this extra time.
10
SPEAKER_01
The round was supposed to start, he s still sitting on the stool.
10
SPEAKER_01
What is Big John doing?
10
SPEAKER_01
They covered him with, like, water or ice, and they have too much Vaseline on his face.
10
SPEAKER_01
There was a bunch of different things, and he just laid there.
10
SPEAKER_01
But then he eventually caught Tim.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s rough, man.
10
SPEAKER_03
Man, that s some bullshit.
10
SPEAKER_01
Well, it sucks.
10
SPEAKER_01
That s for sure.
10
SPEAKER_01
Sucks for Tim, because in all fairness, I think when the bell starts, if you re not willing or able to get up and that should be it.
10
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, no doubt about that.
10
SPEAKER_01
You re not able to answer the bell.
10
SPEAKER_01
But I think there was something else going on, like he was covered in something, they had to wipe him off, there was like some shenanigans.
10
SPEAKER_01
And there was ice on the ground too.
10
SPEAKER_01
I think they did all that shit on purpose.
10
SPEAKER_00
All on purpose.
10
SPEAKER_01
All that shit on purpose.
10
SPEAKER_00
Old school shit.
10
SPEAKER_01
Angelo did that, Angelo Dundee did that with Muhammad Ali back when he was Cassius Clay.
10
SPEAKER_01
And he fought this dude in London.
10
SPEAKER_01
No, I don t know if it was in London.
10
SPEAKER_01
It was Henry Cooper.
10
SPEAKER_01
Henry Cooper was this badass British dude who had a nasty left hook.
10
SPEAKER_01
And he caught Cassius Clay with a perfect left hook, just bank, whoomp, dropped him.
10
SPEAKER_01
And it was at the end of the round, and they cut his gloves in between rounds.
10
SPEAKER_00
They had to give him new gloves.
10
SPEAKER_01
They gave him plenty of time.
10
SPEAKER_01
So this was after the fight.
10
SPEAKER_01
They re yelling at each other.
10
SPEAKER_01
Well, Tim was yelling at him.
10
SPEAKER_01
If you can t get off the stool, you can t get off the stool, let s end the fight.
10
SPEAKER_00
Laborious such a nice guy too.
10
SPEAKER_00
He s right though.
10
SPEAKER_00
He s right.
10
SPEAKER_00
He s a hundred percent, right?
10
SPEAKER_01
He s right But I don t I think like I said, I think there s a bunch of shenanigans that were involved I think there s too much Vaseline on him There was there was I think there was water all over him But there s a bunch of shit where they re like they did a bunch of things to make sure that the round got extended How is the the dirty business?
10
SPEAKER_03
It s been a dirty business.
10
SPEAKER_03
How s the now that you saw it is gone How s this new testing thing?
10
SPEAKER_01
Well, Walt Harris just got popped, right?
10
SPEAKER_01
Oh, yeah, four years.
10
SPEAKER_01
That s a death sentence right there.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you re done.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, Walt s already 40.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that s it.
10
SPEAKER_01
And he got popped, allegedly, I should say, from what the report was that I read on one of the websites.
10
SPEAKER_01
It was like three different things, three different times.
10
SPEAKER_01
God, when you re 40, shit doesn t work so good.
10
SPEAKER_01
Right, you kind of need it.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, on the natch.
10
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, it s kind of weird.
10
SPEAKER_01
Like, we know this stuff really works, but you re not allowed to use it.
10
SPEAKER_01
48 months sanction for two separate violations of the UFC anti-doping policy first tested positive What is that say tell me what that is?
10
SPEAKER_01
No Rollo Rollo knows what it is Fuck all you guys
10
SPEAKER_01
I just think you re good at those words.
10
SPEAKER_01
Metabolite 3A, hydroxy 2A, methyl 5A, androstan 17 on, and testosterone of exogenous origin.
10
SPEAKER_01
And samples collected on June 24, 2023, July 12,
11
SPEAKER_03
2023 Harris was notified of the first adverse finding on July 11th of 2020 So he s no so they told him that he got popped the first time and then he tested positive the next day
11
SPEAKER_03
Subsequently, after he was notified of the adverse finding, he provided urine and blood samples on August 6, 2023.
11
SPEAKER_03
Urine samples tested positive for the presence of anastrazolone, a prohibitive substance that was not present in any of the previous samples, as well as drostanolone and its metabolite.
11
SPEAKER_03
His blood samples tested positive for the presence of exogenous testosterone.
11
SPEAKER_03
Which based on its values was determined as a new administration since the notification of his first adverse findings on July 11th So I wasn t taking the test that day Wow four years of it.
11
SPEAKER_03
That s a life sentence.
11
SPEAKER_03
How old is he now 40?
11
SPEAKER_03
That s kind of it seems kind of crazy that he would just take all that stuff knowing that they were gonna catch him and
11
SPEAKER_02
Have you ever asked Novitskiy why they made BPC-157 illegal?
11
SPEAKER_02
It s not a performance enhancer.
11
SPEAKER_03
Because some state regulators, like athletic commissions, they have it illegal.
11
SPEAKER_03
So if the UFC allows something that the athletic commissions don t allow,
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, it really should be allowed by the Athletic Commission a hundred percent.
11
SPEAKER_03
It s all it s doing is helping people heal from injuries So it s that s all it is.
11
SPEAKER_03
So it s yeah, the states are it s a naturally occurring compound in the human body Yeah, so it s it s something that should be legal and you know And I think the FDA is trying to stop its use now too, which is crazy thing that works.
11
SPEAKER_03
I
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, listen you fuckheads just sell it to us just Don t be stupid.
11
SPEAKER_03
There s a lot of money to be made.
11
SPEAKER_03
I ll help you just make it legal and sell it.
11
SPEAKER_03
It s good It s really good for injuries really good for injuries Yeah, it s there s a bunch of stuff like that that should be legal the testosterone one They those boys went wild and that they fucked it up for everybody the TRT Vitor era.
11
SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah
11
SPEAKER_02
Those boys went wild.
11
SPEAKER_03
When you just take testosterone replacement, everybody s like, oh, I definitely have low testosterone.
11
SPEAKER_03
Hook it up.
11
SPEAKER_02
Eric Silva, he was another one that really noticeably changed.
11
SPEAKER_03
Oh, a lot of dudes did.
11
SPEAKER_03
We had guys that were 25 years old that were signing up for testosterone use exemptions.
11
SPEAKER_01
That s gonna fuck them up when they re older though.
11
SPEAKER_03
100% but that was the thing a lot of those guys were already fucked up because they did juice.
11
SPEAKER_03
So if you re a young guy and you do like a bunch of cycles of juice and you get Gigantor that is gonna jack up your system.
11
SPEAKER_03
It takes a long time to recover.
11
SPEAKER_03
Damn.
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, so there s dudes that are like 25 years old that have wrecked their endocrine system, and they probably can t have kids.
11
SPEAKER_03
Really?
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, yeah.
11
SPEAKER_03
They have low sperm count.
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, it can fuck you up.
11
SPEAKER_03
When you see these social media kids that are like 18, 19 years old, and then all of a sudden when they re 22, they ve gained 80 pounds of muscle, and they have zits all over their back, and they re fucking huge, and they re getting all this attention because they re massive.
11
SPEAKER_03
And there s quite a few of these kids.
11
SPEAKER_03
They re going to ruin their body.
11
SPEAKER_03
They re going to ruin their endocrine system.
11
SPEAKER_03
You re shocking your system at a very, very young age.
11
SPEAKER_01
When you re on T.R.T., it s like fuckin  birth control for men.
11
SPEAKER_01
I haven t pulled out in years, son!
11
SPEAKER_01
And I was able to have, I could have a kid.
11
SPEAKER_01
When I wanted to have a kid, I don t know if it s because I go commando forever, I d have a kid.
11
SPEAKER_01
I d be like, I wanna get pregnant.
11
SPEAKER_01
I m like, all right, you know, it worked.
11
SPEAKER_01
So I know we were good to go, but ever since I m on T.R.T.,
11
SPEAKER_03
Isn t it funny, because the other idea for a male birth control is the opposite.
11
SPEAKER_03
There s a male birth control pill that came out that radically lowers testosterone levels.
11
SPEAKER_03
Oh, fuck that.
11
SPEAKER_03
Hold on, why would you take that?
11
SPEAKER_03
It s so good, fuck your life.
11
SPEAKER_03
How many dominant women
11
SPEAKER_03
who have cucked men are gonna force them to take that stuff.
11
SPEAKER_03
Slippin  that shit in their oatmeal.
11
SPEAKER_03
No, no, no, force them.
11
SPEAKER_01
Force them.
11
SPEAKER_03
Oh my God.
11
SPEAKER_03
Force them to take it.
11
SPEAKER_03
Force them.
11
SPEAKER_03
None of that.
11
SPEAKER_03
Nah.
11
SPEAKER_01
Why would anybody take that?
11
SPEAKER_01
Because they don t want that as the wife.
11
SPEAKER_03
They want the alpha.
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, but they want to do that to the guy.
11
SPEAKER_03
Some women like doing that.
11
SPEAKER_03
Off control.
11
SPEAKER_03
They like doing that.
11
SPEAKER_03
To curb them?
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, they ll turn you trans.
11
SPEAKER_03
They ll do whatever they want to you.
11
SPEAKER_03
They ll drain your bank account, leave you broken, bye.
11
SPEAKER_03
Turn your trans, screw that.
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, they ll make you.
11
SPEAKER_03
It s just there s certain people.
11
SPEAKER_02
It s like your Kardashian skit.
11
SPEAKER_03
Hmm.
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, you got a wonder man.
11
SPEAKER_03
What?
11
SPEAKER_03
Trying to be like a young kid in this day and age with social media trying to be an 18 18 19 year old kid trying to fan your way through life seeing these juiced up gigantic dudes getting attention and girls with lip fillers at 18 year old and Everybody s got a Ferrari It s harder for them than it was for us right because of social media way harder thing it s way harder because there s so much
11
SPEAKER_03
Chaos out there like the guy getting shot in the dick you see things all the time That was really hard to see when we were kids cuz I only knew motherfuckers in my neighborhood, right?
11
SPEAKER_00
No, no
11
SPEAKER_00
Just in general.
11
SPEAKER_00
You only hung out with people in your neighborhood.
11
SPEAKER_00
That was it.
11
SPEAKER_03
And if you saw someone on TV that was like in a MTV music video or something like that, like that, okay.
11
SPEAKER_03
But that s not even real world.
11
SPEAKER_03
That s not the real world.
11
SPEAKER_03
But if it s like some guy you know from your school now has a million followers on TikTok, like what?
11
SPEAKER_03
You made $100,000.
11
SPEAKER_03
What the fuck are you talking about?
11
SPEAKER_03
How?
11
SPEAKER_03
What are you doing?
11
SPEAKER_01
I don t know.
11
SPEAKER_01
I don t know, man.
11
SPEAKER_01
Maybe because I got my kids homeschooled ever since the pandemic because we didn t want them wearing masks and all that shit.
11
SPEAKER_01
My wife s lucky enough that, you know, we re lucky enough.
11
SPEAKER_01
She gets to be a stay at home mom and whatnot.
11
SPEAKER_01
Oh, I got ADD.
11
SPEAKER_01
What were we just talking about?
11
SPEAKER_01
Kids having it rough.
11
SPEAKER_03
People being able to see things that they never could see when we were kids.
11
SPEAKER_02
Kids are homeschooled.
11
SPEAKER_01
Oh, yeah.
11
SPEAKER_01
Sorry, I m back.
11
SPEAKER_01
The zen s kicking in.
11
SPEAKER_01
We keep them close.
11
SPEAKER_01
Nowadays, if they go to school all day, one
11
SPEAKER_01
what the fuck are they telling these kids is weird enough and uh from oh my my friend s kid came home the other day he s like he s like oh man he s 10 years old he s like oh dad i could so when i grow up i could be a boy or a girl
11
SPEAKER_03
I don t know where it is in different school systems, but I didn t like stuff like that It s not like when we were kids that stuff is so weird It s funny, but it just shows you that whatever is socially popular people will gravitate to and that people will change their behavior based on what gets them more attention and
11
SPEAKER_03
That s why I m saying, like... Some of them are definitely trans.
11
SPEAKER_03
Let s be... That shit s existed since the beginning of time.
11
SPEAKER_03
Men who feel like they were born in a woman s body.
11
SPEAKER_03
But some of them are getting sucked into a social contagion.
11
SPEAKER_01
The majority of them.
11
SPEAKER_01
They think it s cool to be bi.
11
SPEAKER_01
What are you?
11
SPEAKER_01
Dude, it s fucking... It s just fucking weird.
11
SPEAKER_03
If you want street cred, you gotta suck a dick.
11
SPEAKER_03
Whether it s a transgender dick or a regular dick, you gotta experiment and suck a dick if you want some street cred.
11
SPEAKER_00
No, I don t want no street cred.
11
SPEAKER_00
No street cred for me.
11
SPEAKER_03
Today they ve they ve gone to places where 50% of the kids identify as lb a lg btq minutes 50% really yeah, that s a joke indoctrinated then this never happens
11
SPEAKER_03
Well, it s just fascinating that it s working.
11
SPEAKER_03
That s what s fascinating.
11
SPEAKER_03
And when you look at the people, like, look, if you re going to pay someone 35 grand a year to take care of your kids, they re not going to be good people that are like dominant in their field and really on the ball.
11
SPEAKER_03
You re going to get wacky people teaching kids.
11
SPEAKER_03
And a lot of these people that are teaching kids in public schools that you see making these TikTok videos, they re wacky people that just happen to be in the position where they re running a school.
11
SPEAKER_01
As a parent, though, I think you should just keep them close and just talk to them every day.
11
SPEAKER_03
You definitely need to talk to them, but they re going to have to talk to other people, too.
11
SPEAKER_03
There s something about running into really cuckoo people when you re young that s probably good for you, just so you know that they exist.
11
SPEAKER_03
The problem is if they have too much influence over your kid, and your kid starts believing things that they re saying, and they indoctrinate you into some weird way of thinking that maybe you don t align with in your home, and you don t want your child being raised that way, which is your prerogative as a person.
11
SPEAKER_03
But also, the kids should be exposed to a lot of weird shit.
11
SPEAKER_03
It s good for them to see kooky people.
11
SPEAKER_00
I think that s where me and Matt have a benefit, because we re the kooky people that our kids see.
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, we all are, right?
11
SPEAKER_03
There s no way to avoid that.
11
SPEAKER_03
But I don t ever remember- If you re interested in what we re interested in.
11
SPEAKER_03
It s true, right?
11
SPEAKER_03
I always preference things when people ask me my opinions.
11
SPEAKER_03
I m like, listen, I m a dirty comedian and a cage fighting commentator.
11
SPEAKER_03
Exactly.
11
SPEAKER_03
With that said, this is my dumb ass perspective.
11
SPEAKER_03
But understand who the fuck you re talking to.
11
SPEAKER_03
Loosely educated at best.
11
SPEAKER_00
Think about that, dirty comedian and you commentate fights.
11
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, that s a perspective to-
11
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, that s a person of questionable judgment.
11
SPEAKER_01
Yeah It s true Highly unnormal communications everything though.
11
SPEAKER_01
I like I really I don t remember my parents talking to me I remember finding like my kids 15 now The dude when I was 15.
11
SPEAKER_01
I am sleeping over Jimmy s house.
11
SPEAKER_01
I d be walking the fucking streets fighting and doing I m 15
12
SPEAKER_03
I can t think of it my kid.
12
SPEAKER_01
I never not know where she is like I think it was a different time Matt and I think their parents raised them in a different way like it s it takes a while to like understand why your parents raised you the way they re they raised you but it s because the way they were raised and the way people
12
SPEAKER_01
Look, my grandparents were straight-up immigrants from Italy and from Ireland.
12
SPEAKER_01
They were all people from the boat, and those were wild people.
12
SPEAKER_01
Those people that took a chance, got on that fucking boat, and made it across the ocean.
12
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, a bunch of wild people, and they didn t have a whole lot of time for parenting.
12
SPEAKER_01
You know and then their kids grew up and had kids and then their kids had kids It s like it takes a while for everybody to settle down.
12
SPEAKER_01
I think people are We have way more information information today than ever before which is probably good for kids It s good to be aware of all the different types of humans and all the different possibilities of good and bad things that can happen in the world, but also It s got to be overwhelming man
12
SPEAKER_01
It s got to be overwhelming to be a kid and to think you ve got to worry about climate change and Ukraine and Russia and fucking Mexicans.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s just every day.
12
SPEAKER_00
It s something new.
12
SPEAKER_00
That s the thing.
12
SPEAKER_00
The phone puts it in their face all day, every day.
12
SPEAKER_00
Every day.
12
SPEAKER_00
It s something new.
12
SPEAKER_00
We didn t have any of that shit.
12
SPEAKER_00
Biden falling down the flight of stairs.
12
SPEAKER_00
Trump calling somebody a pussy.
12
SPEAKER_00
It s every day.
12
SPEAKER_02
It s like, this is crazy.
12
SPEAKER_02
Life is fun now.
12
SPEAKER_01
It is definitely fun if you re an adult.
12
SPEAKER_01
If you re an adult and you re not being affected negatively by it.
12
SPEAKER_02
Well because we, like you said, we come up from a different generation.
12
SPEAKER_02
We didn t grow up doing that.
12
SPEAKER_02
So we can live without it.
12
SPEAKER_01
We re also, all of us are in wild businesses.
12
SPEAKER_01
You re in the business of people beating the shit out of each other.
12
SPEAKER_01
This is a wild business.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s a wild business.
12
SPEAKER_03
It s funny that it is where it is now.
12
SPEAKER_03
I remember coming up, we were talking about before being OGs, I remember each fight thinking, all right, this might be the last one, and it s gonna be done.
12
SPEAKER_03
You know what I mean?
12
SPEAKER_03
So now it s just such a mainstream thing, it s crazy.
12
SPEAKER_01
I remember very clearly, Eddie Bravo and I were having a conversation, and it s almost like we manifested this.
12
SPEAKER_01
We said, dude, we know MMA is awesome.
12
SPEAKER_01
Wouldn t it be crazy if just some fucking billionaire dudes who were fans of the sport just dumped a bunch of money in it Just to show everybody and then it would just catch on yeah I was like if somebody just came along that would work man That s the only way it worked somebody would have to lose tons and tons of money just to get it out there And that s what they did.
12
SPEAKER_03
It s literally like it was manifested
12
SPEAKER_03
Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta.
12
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, it s amazing.
12
SPEAKER_03
And they just really loved it.
12
SPEAKER_01
They loved it.
12
SPEAKER_01
They trained.
12
SPEAKER_00
They were tough guys.
12
SPEAKER_00
They loved it.
12
SPEAKER_00
They lost like 50, 60 million before they made money.
12
SPEAKER_00
That s how much they loved it.
12
SPEAKER_01
They were down more than 40 million when the first Ultimate Fighter came around.
12
SPEAKER_01
And they funded that whole thing.
12
SPEAKER_01
They funded the whole thing.
12
SPEAKER_01
They just rolled the dice and came up double six.
12
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, when you think about the chain of events that had to happen.
12
SPEAKER_02
That made it.
12
SPEAKER_01
the Fertittas, then the Forest fight, and then just everything that happened.
12
SPEAKER_01
And you have to have a guy like Dana.
12
SPEAKER_01
You have to have a complete maniac running the show.
12
SPEAKER_01
You have to have a guy like that.
12
SPEAKER_02
People don t understand how much of a maniac he is.
12
SPEAKER_02
Like in psycho in terms of like his work ethic.
12
SPEAKER_01
Oh, he s a maniac.
12
SPEAKER_01
I mean, that s pretty obvious.
12
SPEAKER_01
The guy works constantly.
12
SPEAKER_01
He loves it.
12
SPEAKER_01
He loves setting fights up.
12
SPEAKER_01
We ll talk at two o clock in the morning for like hours just about matchups and shit.
12
SPEAKER_03
Did you see the other day on the podcast when the girl s in the league?
12
SPEAKER_01
She s interviewing him, right?
12
SPEAKER_03
And she s like, tell me, what does Joe Rogan think of whatever it was?
12
SPEAKER_03
And he s like, what does Joe Rogan think?
12
SPEAKER_03
She goes, Dana White.
12
SPEAKER_03
He goes, wait, you think I m Joe Rogan?
12
SPEAKER_03
He goes, I came in after his podcast.
12
SPEAKER_03
You know that s UFC events, like weeks of the events or when I m doing a looking for a fight.
12
SPEAKER_03
You ve been there.
12
SPEAKER_03
Hey, can I have a picture of this and that?
12
SPEAKER_03
I m like, oh, well.
12
SPEAKER_01
and then you know thanks a lot mr. why you know thanks a lot always think he s either Joe or Dana people call me Dana I ve been called Dana before some dude you told Dana I go no I m the other dude
12
SPEAKER_01
But I think she just made a mental for trying to say all bald white guys look alike when you re doing a podcast And you re interviewing someone especially if you haven t done done a lot of them, and it s like a high-profile thing You re doing Dana white you re always thinking of what to say even the question is like.
12
SPEAKER_01
What s your dream?
12
SPEAKER_01
You know, that s a crazy question.
12
SPEAKER_01
That s like, I don t know what to ask you.
12
SPEAKER_01
What s your dream?
12
SPEAKER_01
So she s probably floundering a little bit there and doesn t know what to say.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s fucking weird having a conversation with someone lying.
12
SPEAKER_02
But I think he handled it the right way, right?
12
SPEAKER_02
By making fun of it.
12
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, and she handled it the right way too.
12
SPEAKER_01
She kept it in there.
12
SPEAKER_01
She edited it out.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s funny.
12
SPEAKER_01
It is funny.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s funny.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s just a flub.
12
SPEAKER_01
I ve done it all the time.
12
SPEAKER_01
It happens.
12
SPEAKER_03
People fuck up.
12
SPEAKER_03
It wouldn t have been funny if they called fucking Dean Thomas Pete Spratt or something.
12
SPEAKER_01
That would be fucking racist.
12
SPEAKER_01
I wouldn t laugh at that shit.
12
SPEAKER_01
Somebody called you Pete Spratt when they told you Eve Edwards?
12
SPEAKER_01
No, no, Eve Edwards.
12
SPEAKER_02
They used to always do that.
12
SPEAKER_02
Oh, just for fun.
12
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, just for fun.
12
SPEAKER_01
Just for fun.
12
SPEAKER_01
How the fuck I took a picture when you thought you were Eve Edwards?
12
SPEAKER_02
Don t say that was just for fun.
12
SPEAKER_02
One time on Looking for a Fight, Khabib really thought I was Eve.
12
SPEAKER_02
He was like, you knocked out my teammate.
12
SPEAKER_02
I m like, what are you talking about?
12
SPEAKER_02
He s like, Josh Thompson.
12
SPEAKER_02
I was like, no, man, that was Eve.
12
SPEAKER_01
Isn t it wild how Khabib just said, nope, done, see ya, bye.
12
SPEAKER_02
Promise my mom, I m done.
12
SPEAKER_02
I mean when you re that good and your life is... Pretty incredible though.
12
SPEAKER_01
What a legacy, right?
12
SPEAKER_01
Undefeated.
12
SPEAKER_01
Only one fight was kind of close, the Gleason-T-Bow fight.
12
SPEAKER_01
Go back and watch that one.
12
SPEAKER_02
I thought Gleason might have won that one.
12
SPEAKER_01
It was arguable.
12
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, they gave it to him nobody would yeah, nobody would like protest.
12
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, it was close pre-usada pre-usada My man glazing isn t built like a fucking superhero Those Sean Shirk days son yeah, I
12
SPEAKER_01
Russell shark the Russell shark remember shirk shirk was a little fuckin a little fire plug Damon mmm shirk shirk was one of the first guys that had preposterous strength and conditioning yeah yeah strength could do it him and Rich Franklin the thing about Gleason that always used to freak me out was the fact that he could make 155 I know I was like how
12
SPEAKER_01
Because I would stand next to him, I m like, Howard, you re so much bigger than me.
12
SPEAKER_01
How the fuck are you 155?
12
SPEAKER_01
It doesn t make any sense.
12
SPEAKER_01
And Gleeson got him down in this one, didn t he?
12
SPEAKER_01
A couple times.
12
SPEAKER_01
Gleeson, he hurt him on the feet.
12
SPEAKER_01
Gleeson was a dangerous fighter, man.
12
SPEAKER_01
What ever happened to Gleeson?
12
SPEAKER_01
Well, you know, he got older, had a lot of wars, you know.
12
SPEAKER_01
Didn t Islam KO him?
12
SPEAKER_01
Islam KO d him, yeah.
12
SPEAKER_01
Islam KO d him bad.
12
SPEAKER_01
It was a bad one.
12
SPEAKER_01
He s had a few KO losses.
12
SPEAKER_01
He s a tough dude, though.
12
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, he fought, I think, a few times in PFL or something.
12
SPEAKER_01
Fought, they re going to war.
12
SPEAKER_01
Gleason was a house, though.
12
SPEAKER_01
The thing is, Khabib looks natural, and he looks fucking... But look, he can t take Gleason down, which is crazy.
12
SPEAKER_01
That s how strong Gleason was.
12
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
12
SPEAKER_01
I mean, Khabib takes everybody down.
12
SPEAKER_01
But Khabib looks smaller then, right?
12
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, he does.
12
SPEAKER_01
Doesn t he, physically?
12
SPEAKER_01
He s much smaller.
12
SPEAKER_01
You look at him, and now look at him against Conor.
12
SPEAKER_01
Let s just look at this right now.
12
SPEAKER_01
Pause this.
12
SPEAKER_01
Now go to Khabib versus Conor.
12
SPEAKER_01
How old was he here?
12
SPEAKER_02
He looks young.
12
SPEAKER_01
Well, he s young, one of the first fights in the UFC, but made a marked improvement in that department, because he looked way stronger later in his career.
12
SPEAKER_01
Like, when he fought Gaethje, he looked way stronger.
12
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
12
SPEAKER_01
Way stronger.
12
SPEAKER_03
Developed that man strength.
12
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
12
SPEAKER_01
Six years later, too.
12
SPEAKER_01
Six years later, that s a big deal.
12
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, look at him there.
12
SPEAKER_01
Oh, that s a big deal.
12
SPEAKER_01
Come on, bro.
12
SPEAKER_01
That s a different dude.
12
SPEAKER_01
Look at the difference, man.
12
SPEAKER_01
Oh, 100%.
12
SPEAKER_01
Go back to that picture again.
12
SPEAKER_01
Like, yeah, he s all smooth here.
12
SPEAKER_01
Now go to another one, the other one that you just showed me.
12
SPEAKER_01
Look at him proud.
12
SPEAKER_01
That s that man strength.
12
SPEAKER_01
That s also I want to kill you motivation.
12
SPEAKER_01
I mean, he got in fucking shape for Conor.
12
SPEAKER_01
When he s standing on top of him, punching him, let s talk now.
12
SPEAKER_01
Let s talk now.
12
SPEAKER_02
You know what?
12
SPEAKER_02
I was surprised Conor didn t quit at that moment because he was getting his ass whooped.
12
SPEAKER_02
I don t think Conor s ever going to do that.
12
SPEAKER_03
Well, Conor did say to him, you know, it s just business or something.
12
SPEAKER_03
And then he said something like, no, I didn t say that.
12
SPEAKER_01
He definitely did.
12
SPEAKER_01
He gets a lot of fucking... He was probably a little rattled.
12
SPEAKER_01
I mean, it wasn t going his way.
12
SPEAKER_01
He did win a round, but it would seem like it was around that Khabib took off Yeah, to keep you kind of coasted for around and then got back on him again Khabib just knew how to wear you out man that thousand yard stare the dudes would have when he d grab a hold of him Look at some Barbosa.
12
SPEAKER_01
That s the best one like it s
12
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, Edson or Michael Johnson, where he s one of them guys where you re like, oh my god.
12
SPEAKER_01
I was going, please tap.
12
SPEAKER_01
Because I was anticipating that spiral fracture that guys get when they don t tap to the Kimura.
12
SPEAKER_01
I don t like that.
12
SPEAKER_01
The Kimura s an ugly break.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s a bad break.
12
SPEAKER_03
Minotauro versus Frank Mias, the ugliest example of that.
12
SPEAKER_03
Don t be stubborn with that, man.
12
SPEAKER_01
I saw it in a jiu-jitsu tournament recently online.
12
SPEAKER_01
Some kid snapped, his arm just goes limp.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s horrible.
12
SPEAKER_01
It s horrible.
12
SPEAKER_01
And it happened quick, too, man.
12
SPEAKER_01
The guy just turned it, he turned the corner, it just popped.
13
SPEAKER_01
Right in his arm, and he goes like this backs up, and oh, it s awful I had a guy the other day listen that people fall asleep all the time.
13
SPEAKER_00
You know what happens?
13
SPEAKER_00
Well our goal is to you know put someone to sleep or get a limb so sometimes if they guys a little stubborn
13
SPEAKER_00
You know, an arm lock or, you know, usually it s like, ah, you know, and they ll stop, if anything.
13
SPEAKER_00
But with the chokes, sometimes you don t know.
13
SPEAKER_00
So the bread cutter, you know the bread cutter?
13
SPEAKER_00
Fuckin  when the arm s not like this?
13
SPEAKER_00
I love that fuckin  one, it s so good.
13
SPEAKER_00
One of my black belts, Gord, he went with this other guy.
13
SPEAKER_00
Now this other guy, Syed s a strong fuckin , like, Middle Eastern guy, and he s, dude, he s not in that quick tap club.
13
SPEAKER_00
And it s not good, see, this is the second time he went out.
13
SPEAKER_00
But this time, when he goes out,
13
SPEAKER_00
I go over like you know you pick up the legs so I go over to him and he s I always usually make a joke and like you know because they usually come right back so I m like hey yo I m in your bedroom hey remember I slept over you know and he s looking at me dude in 30 years I never seen one like this because I don t know how long this guy had him out his eyes were open he looked like a fucking zombie he s got my wrist he s going
13
SPEAKER_00
His eyes were like he was out, but not my dude, and he had my wrist wrong I thought it was you fucking grabbing me.
13
SPEAKER_00
I go hey, dude.
13
SPEAKER_00
I Had knee on belly on him.
13
SPEAKER_00
I m like fucking don t let go of his legs.
13
SPEAKER_00
I didn t want him to move It was fucking it took him a it actually was starting to scare me a little bit how long I take before he came back
13
SPEAKER_00
It felt like fucking eternity.
13
SPEAKER_00
It was a few seconds.
13
SPEAKER_00
And his eyes would just open the whole time.
13
SPEAKER_00
I m like, dude, is this fucking, what am I dealing with here?
13
SPEAKER_00
And then he started, then he started to, the whole time he s clenching his, he s got my wrist.
13
SPEAKER_00
And I go, dude, are you back?
13
SPEAKER_00
Did you sign a waiver?
13
SPEAKER_00
No, I m just kidding.
13
SPEAKER_00
I go, he was okay.
13
SPEAKER_00
He was all right.
13
SPEAKER_00
And then the best was, that guy Gord s a big sweet over guy.
13
SPEAKER_00
He s like a half a hippie, you know?
13
SPEAKER_00
He looks like Kung Fu Panda.
13
SPEAKER_00
He s been calling me later.
13
SPEAKER_00
He goes, you know, I haven t seen Syed since.
13
SPEAKER_00
Is he alright?
13
SPEAKER_00
I go, come to think of it, nobody s seen this motherfucker.
13
SPEAKER_00
I go, Sue, check up on this guy.
13
SPEAKER_00
My girl, check up on him.
13
SPEAKER_00
He came back the next day, he was fucking fine.
13
SPEAKER_00
But I was like, nobody s seen him.
13
SPEAKER_00
I go, wait a second.
13
SPEAKER_01
He might have been a little embarrassed.
13
SPEAKER_00
Nah, he s a nice guy.
13
SPEAKER_00
I go, listen.
13
SPEAKER_00
Then I found out, it was like the second time he went out.
13
SPEAKER_00
I go, dude, you can t.
13
SPEAKER_00
I go, this is... Yeah, it s hard.
13
SPEAKER_00
You gotta... I go, and I go, Henzo... Because listen, it happens once in a while.
13
SPEAKER_00
It happened to me once.
13
SPEAKER_00
I don t know if it ever happened to you guys.
13
SPEAKER_00
You ever get put to sleep?
13
SPEAKER_00
I never got put to sleep.
13
SPEAKER_00
I was a purple ballot in the city, and I was going with this other purple ballot.
13
SPEAKER_00
I didn t even like this guy.
13
SPEAKER_00
This guy was a little prick.
13
SPEAKER_00
I ll tell you his name in a day or two.
13
SPEAKER_00
I don t wanna give him any street cred, right?
13
SPEAKER_00
This guy, he was a purple from Pennsylvania, never liked him, I would always best him, but he was just like a dicky dude.
13
SPEAKER_00
So he was trying to fucking, and he was not bad at jiu-jitsu, so he s in my guard trying to strangle me.
13
SPEAKER_00
Amateur move, you know feet the hips flip them over mounted him fall asleep.
13
SPEAKER_00
Motherfucker had it on still, you know Yeah, so I m like what the fuck hands were like woke me up.
13
SPEAKER_00
He didn t want to make a scene He goes nah.
13
SPEAKER_00
Nah, he s okay.
13
SPEAKER_00
So the guy went back after me and I woke up like during it I m like what the fuck and then I kind of then I realized what s going on I fucked him up, but I remember after wait a minute.
13
SPEAKER_00
So they didn t stop the match.
13
SPEAKER_00
Oh
13
SPEAKER_00
No, it was during the whole night of rolling.
13
SPEAKER_00
It was us just training on a whatever night.
13
SPEAKER_00
It was back to the Gracie Kukuk days.
13
SPEAKER_00
Craig Kukuk days.
13
SPEAKER_00
Craig Kukuk, yeah.
13
SPEAKER_01
He s the guy that they had those video tapes, right?
13
SPEAKER_00
I learned jujitsu from him.
13
SPEAKER_01
I learned a solid amount of skating.
13
SPEAKER_00
He was my first instructor.
13
SPEAKER_00
I got my blue belt under Craig.
13
SPEAKER_00
Craig came to New Jersey first, and Henzo came two years later.
13
SPEAKER_00
And then later on they ended up having a split and Henzo came to me, you know the story.
13
SPEAKER_00
Where d that Ku Klux guy go?
13
SPEAKER_00
Idaho or something.
13
SPEAKER_00
He was a very good instructor.
13
SPEAKER_00
He was under Horian and Hoyce and then they disowned him for some business reasons, you know.
13
SPEAKER_01
How weird.
13
SPEAKER_00
When I seen shit like that, I had like a newsletter of the Gracie newsletter.
13
SPEAKER_00
I was like a 17 year old.
13
SPEAKER_00
Like I, cause my father was a martial artist and this is before, you know, Black Belt Magazine days, you know?
13
SPEAKER_00
So I m like, wait.
13
SPEAKER_00
So then I found out they did something at Black Belt where he was going to be in New Jersey doing one day a week in Manhattan at Oishi s Judo Club down in the village over there.
13
SPEAKER_00
So I go, I got to take advantage of this, you know?
13
SPEAKER_00
Like I didn t know, I knew they kicked him out, but I knew they already awarded him.
13
SPEAKER_00
So there he is, big German guy.
13
SPEAKER_00
He was a very good teacher.
13
SPEAKER_00
So my foundation is... How long ago is this, Jimmy?
13
SPEAKER_02
The videos from 92 the video was reuploaded and remastered years ago.
13
SPEAKER_02
It s could be from this is very old DVD so wouldn t be a video Oh interesting, and it s funny cuz we started training.
13
SPEAKER_00
He didn t like the keys like I don t even own a key He s that guy, but uh he was a very good teacher.
13
SPEAKER_00
He learned on the Hori and on hoist
13
SPEAKER_00
But the problem was he wasn t a very personable guy like he was like you could never get too close to the guy and him and Hanzo had Like a falling out business-wise and I was almost I felt I was a young kid at the time So I remember Hanzo took me out to eat afterwards and he goes look one day after training and he told me he goes look
13
SPEAKER_00
Now that I got my green card, I m getting away from this motherfucker.
13
SPEAKER_00
And he goes, if you go with him, because I was one of the top students.
13
SPEAKER_01
That guy tried to kind of cock block his green card.
13
SPEAKER_00
It wasn t as good.
13
SPEAKER_00
And then I remember Henzo going, if you go with him, some guys will go just because of you.
13
SPEAKER_00
Nobody likes this motherfucker.
13
SPEAKER_00
Henzo goes, if you go with him, and he goes, but I want you to come with me, and this and that.
13
SPEAKER_00
It wasn t even a choice, because Henzo was like family.
13
SPEAKER_00
And I m a loyal guy.
13
SPEAKER_00
I felt like parents were breaking up a little bit.
13
SPEAKER_00
But Henzo is a gem.
13
SPEAKER_01
I want him to run for president.
13
SPEAKER_01
I want him to run for president.
13
SPEAKER_01
You can t have Brazilian citizens running for president in America, unfortunately.
13
SPEAKER_00
He s a great human being.
13
SPEAKER_00
Isn t that kind of weird?
13
SPEAKER_00
You could live here, but you can t run it.
13
SPEAKER_01
We just want to make sure we don t get some foreign infiltrators.
13
SPEAKER_01
It s like some old-school espionage shit Yeah, somebody someone takes their child or this is gonna be the next president.
13
SPEAKER_00
Yeah Destroy the world.
13
SPEAKER_00
He s the best.
13
SPEAKER_00
No.
13
SPEAKER_00
I mean Enzo like just you know he s just a Great human being you know he s done so much for me, so I was the best yeah, it wasn t everybody loves Enzo I don t yeah, I ve never met anybody doesn t
13
SPEAKER_00
The thing about Henzo is the night it looks nice as fucking guy there is yeah, no he ll switch it in a heartbeat Listen he was in a Really quick he was with his son who Ron who s a sweet kid, and he told this story on my podcast But I ll do I ll try to do it justice he they were in a
13
SPEAKER_00
He s the best story teller.
13
SPEAKER_00
They pulled into a gas station, right?
13
SPEAKER_00
And he was in a little sports car that he was giving to his son, Horan.
13
SPEAKER_00
And then somebody, there was some guys, some street guys go, that s a chick s car, something like that, right?
13
SPEAKER_00
And he saw his son s face get a little sad.
13
SPEAKER_00
So he gets out, he goes, hey, come, see the size of my vagina.
13
SPEAKER_00
Something like that.
13
SPEAKER_00
Let s see, and he gonna go, oh, oh, oh, he don t got no, Hensel s a fucking nut.
13
SPEAKER_00
Come on, man.
13
SPEAKER_00
He s a fucking piece of nut, see?
13
SPEAKER_00
Hensel don t give a fuck, man.
13
SPEAKER_00
Hensel, like my first shoot fighting match, like I, my first time ever fighting in a cage, it was at Big Dan, you know Big Dan, the ref?
13
SPEAKER_00
He used to have shoot fighting matches.
13
SPEAKER_00
I remember, I fought on him.
13
SPEAKER_00
At his school in Elizabeth, New Jersey.
13
SPEAKER_01
It s like Bama fight nights or something like that.
13
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah, so my first time ever as a purple belt,
13
SPEAKER_00
First time ever doing any kind of combat, you know, I did a jujitsu tournament, but I never fought before.
13
SPEAKER_00
So he came and it was like a three week notice thing, but I was always in shape.
13
SPEAKER_00
So I asked Henzel, you know, what do you do like the day of the fight?
13
SPEAKER_00
I was a little nervous, you know, and I m thinking the crazies with their diet and this and that.
13
SPEAKER_00
He goes, uh, this is what you do.
13
SPEAKER_00
You go to GNC, you get the Rip It Fuel.
13
SPEAKER_00
Get one of those, you feel good all day.
13
SPEAKER_00
So back then, there s a Fedra back then.
13
SPEAKER_00
You know what I mean?
13
SPEAKER_00
So I m like, all right, Rip It Fuel, right?
13
SPEAKER_00
Again, I took one.
13
SPEAKER_00
I m backstage, there s stuff going on.
13
SPEAKER_00
I m a little nervous.
13
SPEAKER_00
I took another one.
13
SPEAKER_00
Oh, my Lord.
13
SPEAKER_00
Oh, no.
13
SPEAKER_00
Let me do one more.
13
SPEAKER_00
I m fucking, I don t know what this stuff is.
13
SPEAKER_00
Henzo s.
13
SPEAKER_00
So I took like fucking three.
13
SPEAKER_00
So I fought some kid from Virginia who was like a blue belt level or something.
13
SPEAKER_00
And this was with rope escapes.
13
SPEAKER_00
So I went out there fucking, kind of like I am now.
13
SPEAKER_00
So I fucking like all hyped up.
13
SPEAKER_00
Boom, took him down.
13
SPEAKER_00
Bah, rear naked choke.
13
SPEAKER_00
He grabs the rope.
13
SPEAKER_00
So I get him in two seconds he gets out, so I get a point, but then they started on so I started over I can t take him down again.
13
SPEAKER_00
He starts clamming up There s no striking on the floor on the face, so it goes the distance cuz I m exhausted I got exhausted because of the fucking my heart wouldn t stop afterwards.
13
SPEAKER_00
I couldn t even walk back I m like dude this fighting is exhausting meanwhile.
13
SPEAKER_00
It s the fucking Fedra and
13
SPEAKER_00
After the fight Bart Val, you know who Bart Val is?
13
SPEAKER_00
He was one of the refs.
13
SPEAKER_00
Somehow he knew Dan through the shoot fighting.
13
SPEAKER_00
Him and Henzel was supposed to fight.
13
SPEAKER_00
I remember that yeah.
13
SPEAKER_00
One and done event that was like a UFC wannabe but Henzel fought three times in one night and that guy fought for some Hawaiian guy and they both got injured he got out but he was a big
13
SPEAKER_00
He gave me my first cauliflower here Henzo was
14
SPEAKER_02
in my corner, so afterwards.
14
SPEAKER_00
He s a big dude.
14
SPEAKER_02
He s like 50 or so.
14
SPEAKER_02
So afterwards, he saw ... Even though we went the distance, I won because I got the choke.
14
SPEAKER_02
So Bart Val was going like that.
14
SPEAKER_02
Henzo jumps up on the ... There he is.
14
SPEAKER_02
Henzo thought he was going me and you.
14
SPEAKER_02
Henzo thought he was calling Henzo.
14
SPEAKER_02
Henzo went over there to fucking go jump on.
14
SPEAKER_02
Really?
14
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, yeah, fuck yeah.
14
SPEAKER_03
I mean, he was a big dude, man.
14
SPEAKER_01
Oh, he was a massive dude.
14
SPEAKER_01
And he was in the early, early days of bare-knuckle MMA.
14
SPEAKER_03
He was like something out of Fraggle Rock or something.
14
SPEAKER_03
I remember that event.
14
SPEAKER_03
That s like Eric Paulson and Matt Hume.
14
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
14
SPEAKER_03
James Waring.
14
SPEAKER_03
Eric Paulson is a very good fighter.
14
SPEAKER_00
Very good fighter.
14
SPEAKER_00
But I mean, it was the same time frame.
14
SPEAKER_00
James Waring.
14
SPEAKER_02
fuckin  schoolyard, he fuckin  wrapped his hair around his, he s a boxer.
14
SPEAKER_02
And Eric Paulson s a very complete fighter.
14
SPEAKER_02
He s a very well-rounded Jeet Kune Do guy.
14
SPEAKER_02
He d fight over in shudo.
14
SPEAKER_02
But, well, I don t think they would, no, you re allowed to go back there.
14
SPEAKER_00
I mean, he tried to go through the striking side with his grappling experience, Paulson.
14
SPEAKER_00
I don t know, what does that mean?
14
SPEAKER_00
Like, they had two divisions.
14
SPEAKER_00
It was grapplers and strikers.
14
SPEAKER_00
Wearing was in the striking side.
14
SPEAKER_00
Oh, that s interesting.
14
SPEAKER_00
And then the end of it was the guy who won the striking side fought the guy who won the grappling side.
14
SPEAKER_02
That s not right, though, because Hensel fought a judoka.
14
SPEAKER_00
I mean, they were still fighting, but it was like they had rules on how long you could be on the ground, all that shit.
14
SPEAKER_00
Like, I remember.
14
SPEAKER_00
He s cool, Mr. Waring, actually.
14
SPEAKER_00
I met him down in Florida.
14
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, he s a nice guy.
14
SPEAKER_01
It shows you when Matt Hume fought Pat Militech.
14
SPEAKER_03
He was very good yeah, I remember I trained with him in Japan the first time I fought uno and he beat the shit out of me I should even be here Mighty Mouse says he still beats his ass.
14
SPEAKER_03
I m sure I m sure yeah, I m sure he s got He s gotta be older than 50.
14
SPEAKER_01
I m about to be 50 60
14
SPEAKER_01
I met him was good.
14
SPEAKER_01
He was very good.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
14
SPEAKER_00
I was always fascinated that he didn t continue to fight.
14
SPEAKER_00
Remember he did contenders too where they had to grab like the wrestlers.
14
SPEAKER_00
Didn t he, wasn t it Kenny Monday?
14
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
14
SPEAKER_00
Kenny Monday tried to go for his legs.
14
SPEAKER_01
And that was when Frank Shamrock Kevin Jackson was in it.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
14
SPEAKER_01
No, no, no Dan Henderson.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you got Dan Henderson.
14
SPEAKER_01
He caught him in like an ankle lock.
14
SPEAKER_01
Was that when Bustamante fought Erickson?
14
SPEAKER_01
No, that was a different event.
14
SPEAKER_01
That was a different event.
14
SPEAKER_01
That was a MMA event.
14
SPEAKER_01
That was Mars.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, Mars.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, 30 minute time limit.
14
SPEAKER_02
He fought Tom Erickson for 45 minutes.
14
SPEAKER_02
Murillo Bustamante and Fabio Gajella, two of my all-time favorite jiu-jitsu fighters.
14
SPEAKER_01
Me too.
14
SPEAKER_01
Me too.
14
SPEAKER_01
Bustamante tapped Matt Linlin out twice.
14
SPEAKER_01
I remember that because he tapped him out and Big John stopped the fight.
14
SPEAKER_00
I thought Bustamante beat Chuck Liddell in that fight too.
14
SPEAKER_00
Me too.
14
SPEAKER_00
I thought he outstruck him.
14
SPEAKER_00
I thought he won that fight.
14
SPEAKER_00
Boy, I d have to go back and watch that again.
14
SPEAKER_00
You know what it was?
14
SPEAKER_00
Me too.
14
SPEAKER_00
He was a beast.
14
SPEAKER_02
Sometimes he was so comfortable in the back, sometimes Chuck would do a punch and he d go back with it.
14
SPEAKER_02
The optics were a little weird.
14
SPEAKER_02
What I love about those guys is that if you ve seen those guys in Abu Dhabi, you ve seen them in a jiu-jitsu tournament, you ve seen them in MMA, their jiu-jitsu transitions.
14
SPEAKER_02
That s like, who did I just say earlier, the young kid?
14
SPEAKER_02
Not young kid, he s younger than me, I guess.
14
SPEAKER_01
Here s Bustamante and Chuck right here.
14
SPEAKER_01
And Bustamante was an 85er, right?
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
14
SPEAKER_01
This is a crazy fight, if you think about it.
14
SPEAKER_01
How many times did Bustamante fight 205?
14
SPEAKER_00
He was pretty, I mean, for a jujitsu guy, he was pretty well-rounded, especially for that time.
14
SPEAKER_00
For that time, for sure he was.
14
SPEAKER_00
None of the guys would be on their feet.
14
SPEAKER_00
He was awesome, real Bustamante.
14
SPEAKER_00
And people sleep on Chuck.
14
SPEAKER_00
They don t realize Chuck was a wrestler.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that was a good right hand by Chuck Chuck had the touch of death don t you that s what I like but Chuck when he hung in there too long It s unfortunate that they don t have a fucking exit strategy You know and then also if you ve got a bunch of wars probably not thinking so good anymore.
14
SPEAKER_03
Yep It s hard to muster up the mental energy to create a new career It s hard to accept the fact that you ain t as good as you used to be yes very
14
SPEAKER_01
When you re young you just you don t think you re ever gonna be old it s a kind of wild that fade or still throwing Is he really didn t he retire finally?
14
SPEAKER_00
I hope Ryan Bader fight knocked out the second time thought he retired but then I saw him talking about like trying to do a boxing match with Tyson or one of those guys and
14
SPEAKER_01
We have to look at him in the context of what came before him and there was no but yeah There was nothing like him before him for sure the fact that he could both knock you out when all submissions from everywhere from everywhere off his back I mean
14
SPEAKER_01
When Randall been through him remember that yeah Yeah, spiked him on his head and his expression never changed his variety of just being able to do so many different things so many different so tough personality When he could have fought at 205 forever About 230 with that belly yeah, he always looked chubby very active
14
SPEAKER_01
Accurate, man.
14
SPEAKER_01
Holy fuck, that s accurate.
14
SPEAKER_03
His hand speed was, I mean, pretty fucking good.
14
SPEAKER_01
Phenomenal.
14
SPEAKER_01
Phenomenal.
14
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, I was with Jeff Munson in Russia when he fought Jeff, and man, I d never seen a beating like that.
14
SPEAKER_03
And when Jeff was walking out, I mean, Jeff, yeah, he really looked like he was going to his death.
14
SPEAKER_03
I mean, it was bad.
14
SPEAKER_01
That was Fedor when he was really Fedor.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, the Fedor that fought him, remember when he walked down Crow Cop?
14
SPEAKER_03
He most of that fight was him beating him up.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, for sure.
14
SPEAKER_01
Okay, Ryan Bader, he said he suffered a TKO in the first round, retiring from MMA after the bout.
14
SPEAKER_01
So he says, but that was real recent.
14
SPEAKER_00
That was February.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, a year ago.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I don t know.
14
SPEAKER_01
I mean, I think you could talk some of those guys, I just think they just don t like not doing it.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
14
SPEAKER_01
The thrill of getting, it just gives them a purpose, and as they get older, it gets more and more dangerous, you get KO d more often.
14
SPEAKER_00
You would think Putin would make him the minister or something like he did with Karelin and stuff, give him a job.
14
SPEAKER_02
The problem is when you compete that long, I know the weirdest feeling for me, I don t know how it was for you or any of you guys, you all competed.
14
SPEAKER_02
Like the three month to the six month mark of not getting another thing coming up, it s a fucking weird feeling.
14
SPEAKER_02
It s like, shouldn t I be calling Joe Silva now and getting another fucking fight?
14
SPEAKER_02
Like what am I?
14
SPEAKER_02
Your purpose.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, it felt weird.
14
SPEAKER_01
Your identity.
14
SPEAKER_01
It felt weird in the beginning.
14
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14
SPEAKER_01
For a lot of people they just can t accept.
14
SPEAKER_01
And then if they go and do other stuff and they don t find success in that other thing, then they get it all.
14
SPEAKER_01
I could have just made $30,000 for a fight.
14
SPEAKER_01
I could have done this, I could have done that.
14
SPEAKER_03
And then you re watching other dudes make all this money and you think, damn man,
14
SPEAKER_01
Still hang with them right I still got it, and then you gotta get a real job There s also the difference between someone who s absolutely obsessed to being the best in the world and someone who s thinking I could probably fight and make money Yeah, it s just not gonna train.
14
SPEAKER_01
You re not gonna focus.
14
SPEAKER_01
You re not gonna have the same intensity enthusiasm.
14
SPEAKER_01
That s the same everything It s you re not gonna.
14
SPEAKER_01
You re not gonna be the same guy so even if you used to be that guy when you were younger when you re 20 and
14
SPEAKER_01
You re 27, and you re just doing it for money And you think you re still that guy that you were when you were 20 when you were obsessed with it No, it s fucked up.
14
SPEAKER_02
You re gonna get fucked up things can go south so quickly to like you could be on a tear and next thing You know you look you re down to you down three now.
14
SPEAKER_01
What do you got look at Volkanovski?
14
SPEAKER_01
Volkanovsky before the rematch with Islam Makachev is in dispute as the best pound-for-pound fighter alive, right?
14
SPEAKER_01
He almost won that fight, a very close fight.
14
SPEAKER_01
Some people thought he could have won, some people thought Islam could have won, but either way, he went up, fought the best fighter in the 155-pound division, and
14
SPEAKER_01
got to a standstill with him.
14
SPEAKER_01
So at that point, you re looking at him, this motherfucker is one of the greatest of all time, probably the best pound for pound fighter alive.
14
SPEAKER_01
And then he gets KO d in the rematch he takes with 10 days notice, which is crazy to take a fight like that with 10 days notice.
14
SPEAKER_01
And then he gets KO d in the fight with Toporia.
14
SPEAKER_01
And in two fights over the course of, what was it, seven months, eight months?
14
SPEAKER_00
Everything s everything you think his team did him a disservice running him out there right after my like I was too soon after Makachev in my opinion and if they let him run out there again in three or four months I think they re really doing him a disservice because the lights been turned off twice.
14
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, and they got to give him his brain time Yeah, but is that really his team or that s just him
14
SPEAKER_03
I mean, I guess you do have the final say.
14
SPEAKER_01
You do have the final say, and fighters always think they can do anything.
14
SPEAKER_01
They always think they can do it.
14
SPEAKER_00
They always think they can pull it off.
14
SPEAKER_00
Because like you said, he pretty much, at that weight, might have been the best guy ever.
14
SPEAKER_01
When Manny Pacquiao got knocked out by Marquez, Freddie Roach said, one year.
14
SPEAKER_01
You only take a whole year off if you re not doing anything for a year.
14
SPEAKER_01
It was one of the best one-punch knockouts in the history of the sport.
14
SPEAKER_01
And Manny was piecing him up until that point.
14
SPEAKER_01
And the consequences of the fight, you know, this is their third fight.
14
SPEAKER_01
Hindsight s 20-20, though.
14
SPEAKER_02
I mean, he could have went in there and fucking knocked him out.
14
SPEAKER_02
I mean, what if he got that head kick?
15
SPEAKER_03
You re not gonna be able to compete against a guy like Makachev with no camp.
15
SPEAKER_03
You re not gonna be the same guy.
15
SPEAKER_03
This is my argument with Kamar Usman and Hamzat.
15
SPEAKER_03
And everyone s like, Hamzat beat Kamar.
15
SPEAKER_03
I m like, sort of, sort of, kind of.
15
SPEAKER_03
Ten days notice, Kamar wins.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, cuz Camaro was winning in the third also Camaro didn t have time to prepare.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, he doesn t know he can t trust his gas tank So yeah fighting a weight class fighting up a weight class But Hamza was really legit 170 if he could make the weight But at 170 Hamza that s the most terrifying guy in the planet right cuz he s fucking horrific.
15
SPEAKER_03
He knocks you out with one punch He s got crazy
15
SPEAKER_03
crazy speed.
15
SPEAKER_02
Yeah I was about to say his speed is what is underrated.
15
SPEAKER_02
Off the charts.
15
SPEAKER_01
Could you trust him to make the weight though?
15
SPEAKER_01
No.
15
SPEAKER_01
Can t trust him to do shit.
15
SPEAKER_01
Can t trust him to show up.
15
SPEAKER_03
The thing about that one weight cut that he missed by eight pounds though, that s New York and they stopped him from cutting the weight.
15
SPEAKER_03
You know how they do it.
15
SPEAKER_03
Fucking New Yorkers.
15
SPEAKER_03
No, some athletic commissions, they intervene a little.
15
SPEAKER_03
They get it and they go, oh no, he s not going to make it.
15
SPEAKER_03
Like listen, they can make it.
15
SPEAKER_03
It ain t going to look good, but they can make it.
15
SPEAKER_00
get their two cents in.
15
SPEAKER_03
They did that with, that s why Al had to fight Khabib, right?
15
SPEAKER_03
Because they didn t think Max Holloway was cut, they didn t want him cutting any more weight.
15
SPEAKER_03
Because Max was cutting the weight and they were like, uh-uh.
15
SPEAKER_03
So 24 hours notice, Al steps in.
15
SPEAKER_03
And he stepped in like a stud.
15
SPEAKER_01
Let me say, raging, allied with him.
15
SPEAKER_00
Khabib didn t take him down after the second round.
15
SPEAKER_01
He was supposed to fight Paul Felder, a totally different, totally different fight.
15
SPEAKER_01
For three rounds.
15
SPEAKER_01
Kickboxer.
15
SPEAKER_01
He got taken down right away.
15
SPEAKER_01
He went with him five rounds, and he was in there.
15
SPEAKER_01
He was in there, and that was without a camp for that.
15
SPEAKER_01
He was fighting a three-round.
15
SPEAKER_01
He wasn t even getting ready for five rounds.
15
SPEAKER_00
Personally, that fight, to me, I thought kind of exposed Khabib a little bit.
15
SPEAKER_00
Obviously, he s undefeated and all that stuff, but what if he would ever got in there with a dude that had a skill set like George, who could strike, who could defend a take-down, who could wrestle with him?
15
SPEAKER_03
He did.
15
SPEAKER_03
He fought Justin Gaethje.
15
SPEAKER_00
Justin Gaethje s a dangerous motherfucker.
15
SPEAKER_03
I don t think his wrestling s the same.
15
SPEAKER_03
No, he doesn t use his wrestling.
15
SPEAKER_03
He doesn t use it to attack.
15
SPEAKER_03
But he s hard to take down.
15
SPEAKER_03
Justin s very hard to take down.
15
SPEAKER_03
And Khabib dominated him in grappling exchanges.
15
SPEAKER_03
The thing about George is he s just much bigger.
15
SPEAKER_03
George is a big guy.
15
SPEAKER_03
George fought 85, beat Michael Bisping.
15
SPEAKER_03
I know he s not really an 85-er, but George at 170 is a big, strong 170.
15
SPEAKER_03
It could be the same kind of deal when Izzy went up and fought Jan Bohovic.
15
SPEAKER_03
It s like you got the 185-pound champ who s a virtuoso, but he s fighting a guy that s just a lot bigger than him.
15
SPEAKER_03
He s a lot bigger.
15
SPEAKER_03
If you re not gonna have the time to prepare and get your body into a position where you re in somewhat similar range in terms of strength, if you re in these crazy grappling exchanges with a big dude.
15
SPEAKER_02
That s what I was gonna say.
15
SPEAKER_02
Plus, Izzy just sucks on the ground.
15
SPEAKER_03
He s not the best on the ground.
15
SPEAKER_03
That s a fact.
15
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, he s not.
15
SPEAKER_03
Which was surprising in the first fight with Pejeta, when he gets him down.
15
SPEAKER_03
You know crazy, and he had his back.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, I mean he he could have did a lot more Yeah Yeah, Alex s level on the ground is not good either.
15
SPEAKER_03
You know, but the thing is he s getting better at defending He s getting a lot better at defending once he gets taken down and when he s on his feet He s just a motherfucker to deal with especially as you slow down a little bit I don t think either those guys are going for a takedown to be honest Jamal Hill or Alex
15
SPEAKER_03
But Jamal would be more capable of taking Alex down and doing well on the ground Jamal s not lost on the ground.
15
SPEAKER_03
He just is such a good striker.
15
SPEAKER_03
He prefers to stand up It s a fucking fun fight.
15
SPEAKER_03
I know it s a fun fight.
15
SPEAKER_03
That s fine.
15
SPEAKER_03
I m gonna have goosebumps before that one starts
15
SPEAKER_02
That s why I don t understand why people were upset about that being the main event.
15
SPEAKER_03
Oh my god, they re great.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, that s just dorks.
15
SPEAKER_02
Yeah Do you guys think Connor will fight this year
15
SPEAKER_01
I think so.
15
SPEAKER_03
They keep saying he s going to fight.
15
SPEAKER_03
They keep saying he s going to fight.
15
SPEAKER_03
Just keep pushing it back, pushing it back.
15
SPEAKER_02
I think so.
15
SPEAKER_02
I think after doing that movie and how much he had to put into that movie, I think he s going to want to come back to do something like fighting, something that he loves to do.
15
SPEAKER_03
This is the movie curse.
15
SPEAKER_03
The Tommy Morrison curse.
15
SPEAKER_03
When he became a movie star, remember Tommy Morrison was like the man in boxing.
15
SPEAKER_03
He was the Duke.
15
SPEAKER_03
He was John Wayne s grandson, right?
15
SPEAKER_03
Or nephew, what s his name?
15
SPEAKER_00
I think he was a nephew or something.
15
SPEAKER_03
Nephew or some shit.
15
SPEAKER_03
So they could call him the Duke, you know, and everybody thought he was gonna be the man.
15
SPEAKER_03
And then he fought, he did Rocky, and then after Rocky, he fought Ray motherfucking Mercer.
15
SPEAKER_02
That might be one of the worst knockouts in the history of worst knockouts.
15
SPEAKER_03
And it s, it s, he s out already, and Mercer s keeping him up with punches.
15
SPEAKER_03
He s tangled up in the ropes, and Mercer s just teeing off with bombs.
15
SPEAKER_01
Not to mention, Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia.
15
SPEAKER_03
Oh, yeah, he hit her with that right hand.
15
SPEAKER_03
That was when they agreed to be boxing only, and Sylvia opened up with an inside leg kick, and Ray Mercer looks up.
15
SPEAKER_03
He s a Timber, motherfucker.
15
SPEAKER_00
Bro.
15
SPEAKER_03
And he was like 46 at the time, right?
15
SPEAKER_00
What about Mercer when he fought in Japan?
15
SPEAKER_00
Who head kicked him, and he just said,
15
SPEAKER_02
fuck this and like got out of the ring or something I m fine I m trying to remember who that was I remembered I remember with the Japan he looked like what I m cuz he came to American top team when I was with them he came there a few times just to kind of see what
15
SPEAKER_03
There was a few boxers that gave it a go in kickboxing.
15
SPEAKER_03
Both Vince Phillips.
15
SPEAKER_03
Vince Phillips fought Masato.
15
SPEAKER_02
And he was like, nah, I m straight.
15
SPEAKER_02
No, they fought a while.
15
SPEAKER_03
He fought a while.
15
SPEAKER_03
He got really lit up in the legs, though.
15
SPEAKER_03
Real bad.
15
SPEAKER_03
Masato was so good, too.
15
SPEAKER_01
What about Butterbean versus Genki Sudo?
15
SPEAKER_01
Oh yeah, Genki Sudo, he hooked him, right?
15
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
15
SPEAKER_01
Genki Sudo was a stud.
15
SPEAKER_01
Oh, fuck yeah, he was.
15
SPEAKER_01
He was a good guy.
15
SPEAKER_01
He was great.
15
SPEAKER_01
You had an Abu Dhabi, didn t you?
15
SPEAKER_01
No, no, I had a training session with all the Japanese guys that were going to Abu Dhabi one year.
15
SPEAKER_01
I was in Japan with Henzo, and Henzo was fighting in Pride, so he wanted me and Ricardo Almeida to go with everybody, all the Japanese guys, they were filming it, they were going over,
15
SPEAKER_01
Uno, Romano Sato, Genki Sudo, they were all getting together, all the Abu Dhabi team together, grappling session, they were gonna film stuff.
15
SPEAKER_01
So he goes, I want you and Hikaru to go down there, it ll be good for you.
15
SPEAKER_01
And meanwhile, it was my first time in Japan, I m like, I don t wanna do shit, man, I just wanna fucking.
15
SPEAKER_01
But I m like, all right, fine, you know, hands over makes, you know, it makes you go.
15
SPEAKER_01
So the day before, Hyen did something to fucking Ricardo s leg, so Ricardo couldn t do nothing, Hyen s a wild man.
15
SPEAKER_01
So I had to go down, so it was just me, you know, so they were with me, but, so I went with Genki Sudo at one point, I went with a lot of the guys.
15
SPEAKER_01
And it was like four minute matches from like the feet.
15
SPEAKER_01
So at one point, like, I jumped guard, and he went down, he stood up, and he started going around in a circle, like, ah, and they re all going, oh!
15
SPEAKER_01
And I m like, ah!
15
SPEAKER_01
I open up and he goes for a leg lock.
15
SPEAKER_01
Oh my God.
15
SPEAKER_01
I got out of it, but it s fucking weird.
15
SPEAKER_01
But they all did the voice.
15
SPEAKER_03
Oh, Michael goes around like it s a fucking ... He was wild.
15
SPEAKER_02
He was a wild guy, man.
15
SPEAKER_02
Genki was supposed to be my first fight in the UFC.
15
SPEAKER_03
Oh, there s Remy Bonjasky.
15
SPEAKER_03
That s another guy.
15
SPEAKER_01
That guy was a killer.
15
SPEAKER_01
Oh, he s not used to that.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, he got head kicked.
15
SPEAKER_03
He said that s alright.
15
SPEAKER_03
Well, Remy Bonjasky was amazing.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, he was.
15
SPEAKER_03
And he had such an interesting style.
15
SPEAKER_03
Crazy knees.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
15
SPEAKER_03
Hey man, we just lost Rob Kamen.
15
SPEAKER_03
That sucks.
15
SPEAKER_03
That really sucks.
15
SPEAKER_03
Nice guy.
15
SPEAKER_03
I worked out with that guy a lot.
15
SPEAKER_03
I trained with that guy for like an eight week period.
15
SPEAKER_03
It was amazing.
15
SPEAKER_03
He was awesome.
15
SPEAKER_01
Those Dutch guys are cool, man.
15
SPEAKER_03
He s the coolest.
15
SPEAKER_03
He was the coolest.
15
SPEAKER_01
It s like Boss.
15
SPEAKER_03
He s super cool.
15
SPEAKER_01
I did a joint seminar with him in Canada one time.
15
SPEAKER_01
He s just a cool guy.
15
SPEAKER_01
That was it.
15
SPEAKER_01
Head kick.
15
SPEAKER_03
Ray Burchard.
15
SPEAKER_03
Check, please.
15
SPEAKER_03
Thank you.
15
SPEAKER_03
I m done.
15
SPEAKER_03
I don t enjoy that.
15
SPEAKER_03
Frans Botha, he did well in kickboxing, remember?
15
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, he did, yeah.
15
SPEAKER_03
He figured out how to do it a little bit and started fucking people up.
15
SPEAKER_03
Well, his hands were so good.
15
SPEAKER_03
Yeah.
15
SPEAKER_03
If you could have elite hands and you could figure out the kicks, you had a little bit of an advantage, because some of those guys, their boxing was not the best.
15
SPEAKER_02
Right, right, right.
15
SPEAKER_02
If you could just stay in close.
15
SPEAKER_01
I think Genkisudo get Raymond Decker also.
15
SPEAKER_01
Raymond Decker got submitted.
15
SPEAKER_01
I think he did, I think he did.
15
SPEAKER_01
I remember him because I remember, I think Genki did.
15
SPEAKER_03
I think that was his only MMA fight.
15
SPEAKER_01
I remember that guy because Longo used to always point that guy out and be like, this fucking guy.
15
SPEAKER_03
Decker s in his prime as the wildest highlight reel of any fighter ever.
15
SPEAKER_03
He was an assassin.
15
SPEAKER_03
He had his ankle fused.
15
SPEAKER_03
His ankle had broken so many times that his doctor, he couldn t bend his ankle, and his doctor was like, look, if you keep kicking with that thing, we might have to remove it.
15
SPEAKER_03
Fuck you wrap it back up kicking people to he just once we got in there.
15
SPEAKER_03
He just smashed well He kicked through everything he didn t kick through your arms to kick through your elbows Ramon Decker s was a fucking machine man, and he was a small guy So he s fighting the elite ties that are all his weight and just he s in people up
16
SPEAKER_02
He was mean too.
16
SPEAKER_00
Oh he was ferocious.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah just mean.
16
SPEAKER_00
Put on a Ramon Decker highlight.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was ferocious man.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was the combinations.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was the first guy that like perfected the Dutchie that Ernesto Hus used to always do that left hook to the body right low kick.
16
SPEAKER_00
He would hit that thing.
16
SPEAKER_00
It was a fucking thing of beauty and he was just such a fucking killer.
16
SPEAKER_00
Such a killer.
16
SPEAKER_00
Like, just mean.
16
SPEAKER_00
Everything was hard.
16
SPEAKER_00
Everything was hard.
16
SPEAKER_00
Every fucking strike was full power.
16
SPEAKER_00
And this motherfucker just put people away.
16
SPEAKER_00
It s a little bit like Nate Landar.
16
SPEAKER_00
A little bit, bro.
16
SPEAKER_00
Ramone Deckers was the fucking man.
16
SPEAKER_00
And his hands were so powerful, too.
16
SPEAKER_00
The thing that he had above a lot of those guys was his punching power in his hands.
16
SPEAKER_00
Oh, man.
16
SPEAKER_00
Bro.
16
SPEAKER_00
As he s on the way down, he s still trying to tee off on him.
16
SPEAKER_00
Ramon Deckers, bro.
16
SPEAKER_00
Come on, son.
16
SPEAKER_02
Let s see his hand in MMA after this.
16
SPEAKER_00
He s a guy who died young, too.
16
SPEAKER_00
That s what I love about jujitsu.
16
SPEAKER_00
He died young, too.
16
SPEAKER_00
Did he?
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I think he died of a heart attack while he was riding his bike or something crazy.
16
SPEAKER_00
What the fuck is that?
16
SPEAKER_00
He probably rode his bike like a fucking savage.
16
SPEAKER_00
He s probably going up hills and had a fucking heart attack.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was a monster, man.
16
SPEAKER_00
Imagine being stuck in the fucking ring with this guy.
16
SPEAKER_00
I mean, and back then, there was nobody like him.
16
SPEAKER_00
I mean, he was just fucking everybody up, and he was so mean.
16
SPEAKER_01
Holding motherfuckers up to knee them.
16
SPEAKER_00
I know.
16
SPEAKER_00
Look at this.
16
SPEAKER_00
Kicking them through the ropes.
16
SPEAKER_00
Like, you had to stop him.
16
SPEAKER_00
You had to pull him off you.
16
SPEAKER_00
Look, dude s going down, head kicks him.
16
SPEAKER_00
Bro, Ramon Deckers.
16
SPEAKER_02
Bring on Genki!
16
SPEAKER_00
That was the thing that Rob Cameron was great at too, that low kick across the front of the legs.
16
SPEAKER_00
He would step off to the left and throw that right low kick across both thighs.
16
SPEAKER_00
That s a thudder.
16
SPEAKER_00
Bro, Ramon Deckers.
16
SPEAKER_00
I mean, what a highlight reel.
16
SPEAKER_00
Whose fucking highlight reel is everybody getting smoked?
16
SPEAKER_00
It s all everyone just getting pieced up.
16
SPEAKER_00
And the power that motherfucker had with his kicks, with his punches, everything.
16
SPEAKER_00
He just destroyed people.
16
SPEAKER_00
But he destroyed his own body, too.
16
SPEAKER_00
I mean, his ankle was completely fucked by the time his career was over.
16
SPEAKER_01
I wonder if Steven Seagal shit in that.
16
SPEAKER_00
Bro, Brazilians love Steven Seagal.
16
SPEAKER_02
What does he pay those guys to hang out with him?
16
SPEAKER_00
I don t get it.
16
SPEAKER_00
I think Anderson had a great sense of humor.
16
SPEAKER_00
And I think Anderson loved those movies when he was a kid.
16
SPEAKER_00
When I met Chuck Norris, I was like, oh my God, I m meeting Chuck Norris.
16
SPEAKER_00
I hugged Chuck Norris.
16
SPEAKER_01
Wow, this is Chuck Norris.
16
SPEAKER_00
So for Anderson, it might have been like the fucking, the first one.
16
SPEAKER_00
What was the first one?
16
SPEAKER_00
Above the Law?
16
SPEAKER_00
Above the Law.
16
SPEAKER_00
Bro, that was a good movie.
16
SPEAKER_00
Everybody liked that one.
16
SPEAKER_00
That was a good fucking movie.
16
SPEAKER_01
Everybody liked that one.
16
SPEAKER_00
That movie was legit.
16
SPEAKER_00
So if Anderson fell in love with that Steven Seagal, it would make sense.
16
SPEAKER_00
What about Alpha Justice?
16
SPEAKER_00
Alpha Justice wasn t bad.
16
SPEAKER_02
Anybody seen Bobby Lupo?
16
SPEAKER_00
It was horrible.
16
SPEAKER_00
It was fucking horrible.
16
SPEAKER_00
That s the one where he was in Brooklyn.
16
SPEAKER_00
He pretended to be a gangster.
16
SPEAKER_00
He wanted to be Italian in the worst way.
16
SPEAKER_00
That was when the Mob was allegedly sponsoring his movies.
16
SPEAKER_00
He had like a mix-up with the Mob.
16
SPEAKER_00
The mob was involved in financing his move.
16
SPEAKER_00
It was like, Stephen, I don t think you understand here.
16
SPEAKER_00
Holy shit, he should do something.
16
SPEAKER_00
Showing him how to grab him by the nose.
16
SPEAKER_00
This is what you do, just grab him by the nose.
16
SPEAKER_00
Imagine telling Anderson Silva, when you get in the clinch, just grab him by the nose.
16
SPEAKER_00
Watch this, take him down, grab his nose.
16
SPEAKER_00
What the fuck are you saying?
16
SPEAKER_00
He s giving him coaching.
16
SPEAKER_00
It s adorable.
16
SPEAKER_00
And Anderson s listening.
16
SPEAKER_00
But the thing is, like, Anderson might be able to take something from some of this wacky shit.
16
SPEAKER_00
That s true.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, that is true.
16
SPEAKER_00
Because he s a creative, right?
16
SPEAKER_00
Remember when he hit Tony Fricklin with that step-in upward elbow?
16
SPEAKER_00
Do you know that he had to train that away from his coaches?
16
SPEAKER_00
Because his coaches told him to stop drilling that.
16
SPEAKER_00
You re not going to use that.
16
SPEAKER_00
Really?
16
SPEAKER_00
And so he made his wife hold pillows.
16
SPEAKER_00
So his wife would hold pillows, and he would step in and throw that elbow.
16
SPEAKER_00
No kidding.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
16
SPEAKER_00
Bang!
16
SPEAKER_00
And then he did it on purpose just to show them, fuck you.
16
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
16
SPEAKER_00
I can do this shit.
16
SPEAKER_00
And this was when Anderson, before he came over to the UFC, look at this.
16
SPEAKER_00
Boom!
16
SPEAKER_00
Is that when he got his head split?
16
SPEAKER_00
Bro, come on.
16
SPEAKER_00
No, he KO d him.
16
SPEAKER_00
Jesus.
16
SPEAKER_00
But bro, Anderson in those days when he was fighting in England, that s when he became Anderson.
16
SPEAKER_00
So when he came over to the UFC to fight Chris Lieben, I was like, everybody hang on.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I remember that.
16
SPEAKER_00
This is the motherfucker.
16
SPEAKER_02
Me and Dean Thomas fought on that card.
16
SPEAKER_02
It was the tough four finale.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
16
SPEAKER_00
It was.
16
SPEAKER_02
Wow.
16
SPEAKER_02
Chris Liebman didn t get close to him, man.
16
SPEAKER_00
Bro, that was a clinic.
16
SPEAKER_00
That and Rich Frank.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, both Rich Frank.
16
SPEAKER_00
He just brutalized those guys.
16
SPEAKER_00
Brutalized those guys.
16
SPEAKER_00
But that was when Anderson became Anderson.
16
SPEAKER_00
You know, like when we fought Rio Chonan and Pride, and Rio Chonan flying scissored him into a heel hook.
16
SPEAKER_01
I remember that too.
16
SPEAKER_00
He wasn t as good back then.
16
SPEAKER_00
Right.
16
SPEAKER_00
There was something missing.
16
SPEAKER_00
And then he goes to England, and then he finds himself.
16
SPEAKER_00
And then he starts fucking everybody up.
16
SPEAKER_00
Jorge Rivera.
16
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, for sure.
16
SPEAKER_00
Remember when Jorge stood right in front of him, let him punch him in the face?
16
SPEAKER_00
Mm-hmm.
16
SPEAKER_00
I mean, it s like Anderson was on another planet.
16
SPEAKER_00
I know.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was on another planet back then.
16
SPEAKER_00
Lee Murray.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, Lee Murray.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was dangerous back then.
16
SPEAKER_00
Dangerous.
16
SPEAKER_02
I was at the club that night that Lee Murray got into that fight with Tito.
16
SPEAKER_00
You were there?
16
SPEAKER_00
Did you see it?
16
SPEAKER_02
It was in London.
16
SPEAKER_02
Did you see the fight?
16
SPEAKER_02
It was in London or Manchester?
16
SPEAKER_02
It was that.
16
SPEAKER_02
Where the fuck was that?
16
SPEAKER_02
It was London, it was London.
16
SPEAKER_02
He beat up Tito and Tito said he came up to me.
16
SPEAKER_00
Slippery shoes.
16
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, slippery shoes.
16
SPEAKER_02
First of all, when you look in a dude s eyes, because he was talking to me in the club, and he s like, yeah, you like the jiu-jitsu?
16
SPEAKER_02
I can t do the accent.
16
SPEAKER_02
He s asking me about my, he says, yeah, you like the jiu-jitsu?
16
SPEAKER_02
I like to knock people out.
16
SPEAKER_02
I thought he was just like a crazy knucklehead.
16
SPEAKER_02
So I was just talking to him like, ah, yeah, cool.
16
SPEAKER_02
And then when I left later that night, I heard he fucking knocked out Tito, dropped Tito.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was a real gangster.
16
SPEAKER_00
Imagine a guy that s that good at MMA and fighting is actually a real bank robber.
16
SPEAKER_00
I know.
16
SPEAKER_00
Because he fucked a lot of people up, man.
16
SPEAKER_01
They did like a little mini documentary on that.
16
SPEAKER_01
I don t know if it s Showtime or HBO or who it was.
16
SPEAKER_00
Could have been on Netflix.
16
SPEAKER_00
Wasn t Guy Ritchie going to do a film about that heist?
16
SPEAKER_00
That s what I m wondering.
16
SPEAKER_02
That heist is crazy.
16
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, they should have did that movie.
16
SPEAKER_00
A bunch of fighters put on tactical gear and robbed $50 million.
16
SPEAKER_00
Had to love his mural and his
16
SPEAKER_00
It was last year It was this guy Richie s making a movie It does not say he is
16
SPEAKER_00
It says he s not.
16
SPEAKER_00
This Catching Lightning thing is more like documentary.
16
SPEAKER_00
God, Guy Ritchie s gotta do it.
16
SPEAKER_01
It s like his coach and people like that.
16
SPEAKER_00
People that were, you know, around when the heist happened, all that stuff.
16
SPEAKER_00
So, but if you click on that, it said Guy Ritchie s making a movie that someone s responding to that, but is that just rumor?
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, someone said, you said something about it.
16
SPEAKER_00
I m probably lying again So this is a documentary documentary.
16
SPEAKER_00
Oh, it s a documentary series.
16
SPEAKER_00
Oh, well, that s got to be really interesting.
16
SPEAKER_00
That s what I want to see Actually good.
16
SPEAKER_00
Oh beautiful.
16
SPEAKER_00
So that was out April 7.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, check it out.
16
SPEAKER_00
It s out right now last year
16
SPEAKER_00
Oh, okay, and it s called catching lightning.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, so I will check that out for sure It s a crazy story man, but he was a real elite fighter.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was a dangerous knockout striker.
16
SPEAKER_01
Yeah My wife is the one that like showed me that it was on we watched it it was good.
16
SPEAKER_01
Oh
16
SPEAKER_00
I saw him fight live, well obviously in the Jorge Rivera fight, but I saw him fight live against Amir Ranavardi.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was a fucking killer, dude.
16
SPEAKER_00
He was a killer.
16
SPEAKER_00
Lee Murray was a dangerous dude.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, he could fight.
16
SPEAKER_00
He could box.
16
SPEAKER_00
Dangerous.
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, good hands.
16
SPEAKER_00
Dangerous puncher.
16
SPEAKER_02
He had something in him.
16
SPEAKER_02
I remember, and this was
16
SPEAKER_02
I mean, shit, that was when I seen him at that club.
16
SPEAKER_02
I mean, when was that?
16
SPEAKER_02
Early 2000s?
16
SPEAKER_02
And I seen something in his eyes, you could tell.
16
SPEAKER_00
Do you remember when he got stabbed in a knife fight, and then was in the hospital, almost dead, and then hit and pad six weeks later?
16
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, so Lee Murray, I think it s like I Legitimately think it was like six to eight weeks after getting stabbed if I remember correctly he was hitting mitts And I was like this is the most insane thing I ve ever seen in my life See if you can find that because it was a video that I was it wasn t like that He was tearing the mitts up, but he was after getting stabbed in the heart in the heart in the heart
16
SPEAKER_00
Bro, I mean he got stabbed a bunch of times.
16
SPEAKER_00
That s crazy.
16
SPEAKER_00
He should have died and lived and then next thing he s hitting mitts and then after that he s planning a bank robbery.
16
SPEAKER_01
You ll see on the documentary like they kind of show they kind of say he s not you know, he ain t the mastermind They like set him up to be that guy.
16
SPEAKER_00
Oh the master.
16
SPEAKER_01
I wouldn t think he s the mastermind of the organization It s I mean it s pretty crazy and it wasn t it the largest amount of money like in Stolen and yeah history or something like that.
16
SPEAKER_01
How did they catch him?
16
SPEAKER_01
How do they know?
17
SPEAKER_02
know who did it I mean I m gonna ruin the documentary does there a video of him hitting the pads after being stabbed in the heart see if you can find that cuz it s so crazy does this thing dissolve when I spit this thing out
17
SPEAKER_03
I m chewing it like a gum.
17
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, it gets a little chewy.
17
SPEAKER_03
Can I have another one?
17
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, get in there, sir.
17
SPEAKER_03
Thank you.
17
SPEAKER_03
Junkie.
17
SPEAKER_03
Now, where s that Cat Williams shit?
17
SPEAKER_03
Let s go.
17
SPEAKER_02
Uh-oh.
17
SPEAKER_03
No, no, I m only kidding.
17
SPEAKER_03
My kids are watching.
17
SPEAKER_03
Hold on.
17
SPEAKER_03
Let s fucking go.
17
SPEAKER_03
Cat Williams stuff is not for amateurs.
17
SPEAKER_03
Give me a Zen.
17
SPEAKER_03
Give me a Zen.
17
SPEAKER_03
Good stuff.
17
SPEAKER_02
Thank you, bro.
17
SPEAKER_02
Let s go.
17
SPEAKER_02
Let s go.
17
SPEAKER_02
Ready to revive for round three.
17
SPEAKER_02
Do you remember when Panama Lewis gave Aaron Pryor that green one?
17
SPEAKER_00
Not that one, yeah, the other one I mixed.
17
SPEAKER_03
And then he came out, woo!
17
SPEAKER_03
Do you guys remember when Craig Hardy wanted somebody to give him a fucking... never mind.
17
SPEAKER_03
What?
17
SPEAKER_03
Craig Hardy the wrestler?
17
SPEAKER_03
No.
17
SPEAKER_03
Everybody forgot I shouldn t bring it up.
17
SPEAKER_03
Greg Hardy was fighting and he goes, man, I need my inhaler.
17
SPEAKER_03
So his corner guy, he must have been new to the UFC, he goes, all right.
17
SPEAKER_03
It was Dean Thompson.
17
SPEAKER_03
Dean, I m sorry.
17
SPEAKER_02
Oh, you were fighting Greg Hardy?
17
SPEAKER_02
No.
17
SPEAKER_02
Greg Hardy was fighting, Dean was cornering him.
17
SPEAKER_02
Oh, Greg Hardy, the heavyweight guy.
17
SPEAKER_02
Oh, Jesus Christ.
17
SPEAKER_00
Usada approved.
17
SPEAKER_00
I asked the dude and he said yeah.
17
SPEAKER_00
Is that not Usada approved?
17
SPEAKER_00
Who handed it to him?
17
SPEAKER_00
I handed it to him.
17
SPEAKER_02
Is that not Usada approved?
17
SPEAKER_00
No, it s not.
17
SPEAKER_02
Oh boy, and they did it on camera.
17
SPEAKER_01
In reality, if a dude fights with asthma, you would think he d be cleared to use his fucking inhaler.
17
SPEAKER_02
Right, but what does the inhaler do for you?
17
SPEAKER_01
It opens your lungs up.
17
SPEAKER_02
Would it be beneficial for someone who doesn t have asthma?
17
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, 100%.
17
SPEAKER_02
Then you can t use it.
17
SPEAKER_00
No, but he has asthma and he got cleared to have it in the back.
17
SPEAKER_00
And he thought he was able to have it in the corner.
17
SPEAKER_00
So when I asked the guy, he said, can he have this?
17
SPEAKER_00
He said, yeah, I think so.
17
SPEAKER_03
So I gave it to him.
17
SPEAKER_03
Well, sorry to bring that up.
17
SPEAKER_00
Dana threw me under the bus.
17
SPEAKER_00
He was like, yo, that damn Dean Thomas, how could he do this?
17
SPEAKER_02
You know, it s complicated too, because the rules keep shifting a little bit.
17
SPEAKER_02
But what but the testosterone rule was the craziest rule of all the rules that have ever existed in the UFC when they started giving people testosterone I know that was that was the crazy that was there were there were Wild West days People could take whatever they wanted.
17
SPEAKER_00
What years was that where they were just allowed the guys for those a good question I want to say it s like 2004
17
SPEAKER_02
What did what year did and the best thing cold fight Vitor?
17
SPEAKER_02
Because he came back a different man when he would yeah, man Look different fizz way different.
17
SPEAKER_02
That was when he spin kick Luke Luke Rockhold said I was looking at this guy at the weigh-ins going what the fuck is he on?
17
SPEAKER_02
Fucking silverback
17
SPEAKER_01
He was like 220 had traps up.
17
SPEAKER_02
Oh, yeah Came on the scene.
17
SPEAKER_02
I was there for his first fight UFC 12 in Dothan, Alabama and no one knew what to expect because Everybody thought that Vitor was a Carlson Gracie black belt.
17
SPEAKER_02
So they expected him But he came out with them Brazilian fucking model shorts on and the MMA gloves and just tuned up Trey tell it called Victor Grey
17
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, that s what I m Victor Gracie.
17
SPEAKER_02
That s what we called him back.
17
SPEAKER_02
Then we called him Victor I was at his school when he was training back then I was at Carlson Gracie s in 97 that s part of how the reason I got this gig you know it s funny he I Interviewed him once and he mentioned that that you used to train there.
17
SPEAKER_02
Yeah, I trained there in 96
17
SPEAKER_01
That s when I started training there.
17
SPEAKER_01
Dude, when he killed Vanderlei in that fight, when Vanderlei was a savage, too, back then, just people didn t know yet.
17
SPEAKER_01
He came out with wrestling shoes on.
17
SPEAKER_01
He came out, like, remember, he was, like, almost like he was freezing him.
17
SPEAKER_01
He was in, like, Vanderlei was in waiting.
17
SPEAKER_01
Navarro Romano, you know, the guy that, Gymnastica Naturale.
17
SPEAKER_01
Yep, yep, yep.
17
SPEAKER_01
He used to be, like, I guess, part of the Carlson team.
17
SPEAKER_01
And he said, like, Vanderlei was pissed because he thought Vitor was in the back trying to freeze him out.
17
SPEAKER_01
And what Alvaro said was that Vitor was petrified, said he was in the back, was crying, and they had to make him go out there.
17
SPEAKER_01
And he went out there and machine-gunned Vanderlei across the cage like so crazy.
17
SPEAKER_01
It was terrifying.
17
SPEAKER_00
I heard that story, right?
17
SPEAKER_00
So I had to, as a
17
SPEAKER_00
a journalist with integrity, I had to ask him about it.
17
SPEAKER_00
He said that he had stomach problems.
17
SPEAKER_00
Is he going to admit?
17
SPEAKER_00
I know, that s the same thing I thought.
17
SPEAKER_00
That s the same thing I thought.
17
SPEAKER_00
That s the same thing I thought.
17
SPEAKER_00
But I had to ask him about it.
17
SPEAKER_00
2013, so it was 2013, so 11 years ago, they were juicing.
17
SPEAKER_01
How many years they had TRT for when did it start?
17
SPEAKER_01
That s a question Yeah, but not for a while he was on like later
17
SPEAKER_02
He wasn t I don t think you and he was on a low dose of it and when he got off it He s one of the guys right that was basically the same guy when he got off of it He was he like he couldn t train his heart I think he said but he knocked out Hector Lombard after he got off of it.
17
SPEAKER_02
That was post TRT days He was still fucking people up.
17
SPEAKER_02
He remember when he knocked out Fedor.
17
SPEAKER_00
Oh, yeah Snuck out the back door and hit him with an uppercut boom
17
SPEAKER_02
Because Fedor had him rocked, and he went down, he was on his back, and Fedor jumped on him, he grabbed ahold of a single, snuck out the back, BOOM!
17
SPEAKER_02
And then just hammered him with that fucking Hendo right hand.
17
SPEAKER_01
Dude, the Bisping knockout was the craziest.
17
SPEAKER_01
The craziest.
17
SPEAKER_02
Because he gave him the little... The craziest.
17
SPEAKER_02
The flying punch, and that became his logo.
17
SPEAKER_01
I know after watching tough and Bisping, you know, he s he s a look.
17
SPEAKER_01
I like Michael Bisping and he s a he s an instigating motherfucker and he was on him the whole time.
17
SPEAKER_01
So you almost were happy.
17
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you know at that point that Dan got his revenge dancing.
17
SPEAKER_00
But now I work with Bisping, man.
17
SPEAKER_00
I like him a lot, man.
17
SPEAKER_00
I love him.
17
SPEAKER_00
I think he s great.
17
SPEAKER_00
And I hate watching that clip, man, because I like him so much.
17
SPEAKER_00
Well, you don t want to see your boy get hurt.
17
SPEAKER_02
It s rough watching a guy get hammered in the face after he s out cold, too.
17
SPEAKER_01
That s a rough one.
17
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, that guy s, I mean, I like Bisping when he was on tough.
17
SPEAKER_01
Like, when he came up, he was obviously a talented guy and wound up becoming a world champ.
17
SPEAKER_01
And he s a solid guy.
17
SPEAKER_01
Very solid guy.
17
SPEAKER_01
He s entertaining.
17
SPEAKER_03
And we should mention that he won that rematch.
17
SPEAKER_03
I got fucking hiccups.
17
SPEAKER_03
Oh, yeah.
17
SPEAKER_03
He won the rematch for Staten Island.
17
SPEAKER_03
For the title, when he was a champion.
17
SPEAKER_02
Did he have one eye at that point?
17
SPEAKER_02
Yup, he had one eye at that point.
17
SPEAKER_02
Well, how about the craziest one was when he beat Anderson, and then he gets his mouthpiece knocked out.
17
SPEAKER_02
He s pointing to the referee to get his mouthpiece back, and Anderson hits him with a flying knee and walk-offs.
17
SPEAKER_02
Like it s a walk-off KO.
17
SPEAKER_02
And then they didn t call it, because it was like the end of the fight, and John McCarthy was doing the refereeing, right?
17
SPEAKER_01
Wasn t it John?
17
SPEAKER_02
I don t think so.
17
SPEAKER_02
Was it Herb or was it John?
17
SPEAKER_01
At that point it might have been her.
17
SPEAKER_03
I think it was her, but I think the fight wasn t over.
17
SPEAKER_03
They had another round.
17
SPEAKER_02
Their fight was not over because Anderson thought he KO d him.
17
SPEAKER_02
He hit him with that flying knee and dropped him and walked away like it was a walk away KO.
17
SPEAKER_02
And then the fight kept going.
17
SPEAKER_03
And he jumped on the cage.
17
SPEAKER_02
Yes, that s right.
17
SPEAKER_02
He thought it was over.
17
SPEAKER_02
But meanwhile, it was like Bisping was blind in one eye.
17
SPEAKER_02
So Bisping, when he s pointing,
17
SPEAKER_02
To see where the fucking mouthpiece is.
17
SPEAKER_01
He probably couldn t even fucking see it coming.
17
SPEAKER_01
He s probably looking for his goddamn eye.
17
SPEAKER_01
What a... Jesus, Rollo.
17
SPEAKER_01
How many fights?
17
SPEAKER_01
He said he fought how many times with one eye?
17
SPEAKER_02
And then he walks away.
17
SPEAKER_02
He goes, what the fuck?
17
SPEAKER_02
I think he just said what the fuck.
17
SPEAKER_02
Man, mentally too.
17
SPEAKER_02
How do you come from that adrenaline dump?
17
SPEAKER_02
Meanwhile, Bisping survived.
17
SPEAKER_02
How tough is this motherfucker?
17
SPEAKER_02
One eye and survives.
17
SPEAKER_02
He s a savage.
17
SPEAKER_02
Crazy, right?
17
SPEAKER_02
And by the way, that left eye that s fucked up, that s the good eye.
17
SPEAKER_02
That s the good eye.
17
SPEAKER_02
That s the good eye.
17
SPEAKER_02
That s the eye he can see out of.
17
SPEAKER_02
And he comes back and he wins the fifth round, which is bananas, man.
17
SPEAKER_03
Just fucking bananas and even the win the title this thing had to be he had to beat Luke Rockhold Luke Rockhold took him out the first time And he beat him on short notice there was another very short notice fight one of my favorite moments is right before they were gonna fight Luke was going to him and he s like what s that buddy and he goes like he doesn t want to touch hands the guy touch in a minute motherfucker
17
SPEAKER_03
I ll touch you in a minute, motherfucker.
17
SPEAKER_01
He s funny as shit.
17
SPEAKER_01
It was great.
17
SPEAKER_01
That was a wild victory.
17
SPEAKER_01
He s entertaining.
17
SPEAKER_02
He s a fun guy.
17
SPEAKER_02
He s got an interesting perspective about this Mike Tyson, Jake Paul thing, because even though Bisping only has one eye, he s been trying to get Jake Paul to fight him, which is kind of crazy.
17
SPEAKER_02
It s a nice paycheck.
17
SPEAKER_02
Would they allow that, a guy with one eye to fight?
17
SPEAKER_02
I don t think so.
17
SPEAKER_01
They re allowing a 60-year-old guy to play.
17
SPEAKER_02
What do you think about this Mike Tyson, Jake Paul thing?
17
SPEAKER_02
Do you think it s crazy?
17
SPEAKER_01
It s always hard to say because you know he has the ability to drop him on his ass at any time.
18
SPEAKER_01
I think all the rules are to his favor.
18
SPEAKER_01
Are we getting tricked by watching pad work?
18
SPEAKER_03
We re getting tricked I mean, but if you look at the pad work, it s little three to five second bursts, right?
18
SPEAKER_03
It s not at one round if he was doing that in all one round I go.
18
SPEAKER_03
Oh, yeah.
18
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, but I mean anybody could put that together, right?
18
SPEAKER_01
But also he s just starting to train again, right?
18
SPEAKER_01
No still, you know, there s like a one to those videos.
18
SPEAKER_01
He s literally saying day one.
18
SPEAKER_01
Oh
18
SPEAKER_02
Here s the question, how was his fight with Roy Jones?
18
SPEAKER_02
I didn t see it.
18
SPEAKER_02
How was it?
18
SPEAKER_02
I think they had an agreement.
18
SPEAKER_02
Not to punch the head.
18
SPEAKER_01
Exactly.
18
SPEAKER_00
He was told Roy would not fight him, like he wasn t trying to get hit in his head.
18
SPEAKER_00
So they had like a pre-arranged thing where he wasn t going to knock him out.
18
SPEAKER_01
It looked like Mike was not trying to knock him out.
18
SPEAKER_01
That s what it looked like.
18
SPEAKER_01
The fight will be an exhibition, but it ll be real fight rules.
18
SPEAKER_01
I think this is when he was on Hannity.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, 16 ounce gloves and only two minute rounds.
18
SPEAKER_00
Like that, that s the Mike s favorite.
18
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, that s it.
18
SPEAKER_00
You know, two minute rounds for sure.
18
SPEAKER_00
Because that was my biggest thing.
18
SPEAKER_00
Like if he doesn t get him in the first couple rounds, what kind of gas is he going to have at his age?
18
SPEAKER_00
I don t know.
18
SPEAKER_00
See, here s the thing.
18
SPEAKER_00
It s at his age with a lot of supplements.
18
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah.
18
SPEAKER_00
You know, hey, look, look, I hope he wins.
18
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
18
SPEAKER_00
God forbid.
18
SPEAKER_01
If it was just a regular 57 year old dude with not modern hormone replacement and all that jazz, I d go, he doesn t have a chance.
18
SPEAKER_01
But 57 years old with just juice to the tits.
18
SPEAKER_01
I don t know, man.
18
SPEAKER_01
What are the rules?
18
SPEAKER_01
What are the rules?
18
SPEAKER_01
What are you allowed to do?
18
SPEAKER_01
Because if you just allow him to do whatever he wants to do, it changes everything.
18
SPEAKER_01
I guess if it s an exhibition, they re drug testing.
18
SPEAKER_01
Email response from the Texas Licensing Commission.
18
SPEAKER_01
The promoter is requested to have an event that day.
18
SPEAKER_01
We ve not received any proposed cards and thus have no details of what they re planning and that will affect the possible rules.
18
SPEAKER_01
All ballots are subject to review and approval by TDLR.
18
SPEAKER_01
Please let me know if you need any other information.
18
SPEAKER_01
Okay.
18
SPEAKER_01
So it s not necessarily carved in stone yet.
18
SPEAKER_01
They might not approve it.
18
SPEAKER_01
If a lot of people protest, maybe they won t approve it.
18
SPEAKER_00
Are they doing it in Texas?
18
SPEAKER_01
Is that where it s going to be?
18
SPEAKER_03
I mean, they were trying to do it at AT&T Stadium.
18
SPEAKER_03
Like, that s crazy.
18
SPEAKER_03
If Tyson dies.
18
SPEAKER_01
Right.
18
SPEAKER_01
Oh, my God.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
18
SPEAKER_01
See, if you have something like that, if you have... Look, if this... That ll be the end of the...
18
SPEAKER_01
Let s imagine it in a different way, right?
18
SPEAKER_01
Let s not imagine that Mike Tyson is fighting Jake Paul.
18
SPEAKER_01
Let s imagine Mike Tyson is fighting some young, like, really powerful knockout artist who s a contender.
18
SPEAKER_01
Well, guess what?
18
SPEAKER_01
Jake Paul could be that guy if we didn t think of him as Jake Paul.
18
SPEAKER_01
If you look at the people he knocks dead, when he knocked dead Tyron Woodley with one punch, that dude could fucking crack.
18
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, I was I mean honestly so like that s what I m saying exactly what you re saying We don t want to give him credit because it s Jake Paul exactly But we got a we got to wake up and realize that he s still 27 young and for the last four or five six seven years He s had training assistant coaches working with him one-on-one now We wouldn t be thinking that if it wasn t Jake Paul that he couldn t do it right so you re right about that and he s dedicated and he s dedicated and
18
SPEAKER_01
And if he was just some wild young dude coming up knocking people out knocking out former MMA champions like Tyron We would go whoa keep an eye on this kid this guy might be something someday like he s on the way up Tyson grew up in this sport 100% but he s also 57 Yeah, he ll be 58 at his army fight.
18
SPEAKER_00
Which is my question.
18
SPEAKER_00
How do you how do you think?
18
SPEAKER_00
like Jake Paul
18
SPEAKER_00
All the guys he s fought are much smaller than him, whether people want to say so or not.
18
SPEAKER_00
Ben Askren fought his whole life at 70.
18
SPEAKER_00
Nate s 55 and 70 pounder.
18
SPEAKER_00
Tyron s 70 pounder.
18
SPEAKER_00
So this guy s walking around well over 200, cutting to 85 for these fights.
18
SPEAKER_00
You know, this is finally a dude, like he didn t hurt the Tommy Fury dude, he didn t hurt Nate really during the fight.
18
SPEAKER_00
I thought Nate s inactivity, like he didn t really get busy in there.
18
SPEAKER_00
Nate apparently had a fucked up shoulder going into that fight.
18
SPEAKER_00
Alright, well then that would make sense because he didn t really throw.
18
SPEAKER_00
That s what I heard.
18
SPEAKER_00
But I might not be true.
18
SPEAKER_00
You know, so what how s he gonna handle again?
18
SPEAKER_00
The age is the factor but you know, I m in a really strong two-minute rounds ain t bad.
18
SPEAKER_01
I m sorry And it s just like it s not if they got him on the right fucking mixture They re gonna have to even if he s gonna be competitive Do have them on the right mixture, how do you pass drug tests?
18
SPEAKER_01
How does that work?
18
SPEAKER_01
I mean, is there a drug test on an exhibition?
18
SPEAKER_01
I
18
SPEAKER_01
I don t know.
18
SPEAKER_01
That s a good question.
18
SPEAKER_01
Because if there s not, ye fuckin  haw.
18
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, I know, right?
18
SPEAKER_03
That s the only way.
18
SPEAKER_03
Drugs is the only way I think he s competitive.
18
SPEAKER_01
Right.
18
SPEAKER_01
But he has to be.
18
SPEAKER_01
Well, I mean, that s obvious.
18
SPEAKER_01
If you just look at him, though, he has to be on some kind of hormone replacement.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, 100%.
18
SPEAKER_01
He looks pretty fuckin  yoked.
18
SPEAKER_01
He looks pretty yoked.
18
SPEAKER_02
What a comeback since The Hangover, huh?
18
SPEAKER_02
He was a fuckin ... I mean, right?
18
SPEAKER_01
He got big for a while.
18
SPEAKER_00
Oh yeah, when he was doing the one man show and all.
18
SPEAKER_00
It sucks when you re fat.
18
SPEAKER_01
You guys never really got fat.
18
SPEAKER_01
Both Tyson s on the podcast.
18
SPEAKER_01
I had Tyson when he was big, when he wasn t training at all.
18
SPEAKER_01
And I said to him, you don t work out at all?
18
SPEAKER_01
He goes, I m afraid I ll ignite my ego.
18
SPEAKER_01
Oh, man, that s terrifying.
18
SPEAKER_01
And that s what happened.
18
SPEAKER_01
It ignited that thing inside of him.
18
SPEAKER_00
When he came back for the Roy- It was two different interviews.
18
SPEAKER_00
Two different humans.
18
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, 100%.
18
SPEAKER_00
I agree with you.
18
SPEAKER_01
Jamie was the first one to say it.
18
SPEAKER_01
It s like a totally different person.
18
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, he was way more intense.
18
SPEAKER_00
Way more.
18
SPEAKER_00
You know what I mean?
18
SPEAKER_00
Terrifying.
18
SPEAKER_00
Probably.
18
SPEAKER_01
Supplemented up with all those anastromes, dolcines.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah.
18
SPEAKER_01
How you say them again?
18
SPEAKER_01
Anastrol.
18
SPEAKER_02
You gotta be in that mindset, though, when you re getting ready to fight, though.
18
SPEAKER_02
You re in a different mindset.
18
SPEAKER_01
The thing is, if he s physically capable of recapturing 70% of what he used to do, just dealing with that, just dealing with that with probably 90% of the power,
18
SPEAKER_01
70% of the physical ability and 90% of the power because the power is not gone You see it when he hits a bag.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, he s still got the power the power is there 100% But he s had a bunch of back issues.
18
SPEAKER_01
He had real bad sciatica when the problems walking So but who knows what they ve done stem cells I m sure he s with the right people like Even at 57 you can make a lot of money if Mike Tyson s fit in its shape, which is so crazy to say
18
SPEAKER_01
It s just weird that we re even talking about it.
18
SPEAKER_00
A hundred percent.
18
SPEAKER_01
That the fucking guy from Disney is going to fight Mike Dyson, the YouTube kid.
18
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I know.
18
SPEAKER_00
And the path to beat Mike always was long dudes that had a good jab.
18
SPEAKER_00
Later in his career when he wasn t moving his head anymore, so I don t know if Jake can keep Mike off with his jab.
18
SPEAKER_01
We re gonna see.
18
SPEAKER_01
But Jake will grab him and wrangle him.
18
SPEAKER_00
I mean, that s what he does good.
18
SPEAKER_00
He wrangles guys.
18
SPEAKER_00
Tyson s people are gonna be in the back saying, don t let him wrestle us.
18
SPEAKER_00
He ll be wrenching those fucking arms the way he used to.
18
SPEAKER_01
He used to do some jujitsu in it.
18
SPEAKER_01
If Tyson can have a flashback.
18
SPEAKER_01
to the glory days if there s just like a moment where he just got to land one sees a combination and empties it on him that would be wild to watch yeah for jake to hurt him he s got to be there to get hurt i know he yeah he s not exactly muhammad ali you know exactly so and if tyson can still move his head like he used to move his head now the thing about lower backs though if you got a lower back problem you got to kind of like save that movement you can only do it so many times where it s painful
18
SPEAKER_01
It all depends on the condition of his lower back because you ve got to think Mike Tyson in his prime Go back and watch some of those early days.
18
SPEAKER_01
He s just coming This is so much that just so much to calculate and the bombs are coming your way and you re trying to hit it with jabs like the custom Otto Tyson was Problem the head movement people forgot how hard he was to hit his head me was sick.
18
SPEAKER_00
That s what s not in his career I mean really that was a big difference
18
SPEAKER_01
Exactly, and I think that coincided with back problems.
18
SPEAKER_01
I just and he also had neck problems I believe he had a neck surgery because you know he s did a lot of those wrestlers bridges Oh my god, and you got to think of how many dudes like Lennox Lewis just teed off on his noggin Evander Holyfield just teeing off on his noggin.
18
SPEAKER_01
What is that doing to your neck?
18
SPEAKER_01
That can t be good
18
SPEAKER_03
But my whole thing is this man, like if what we saw with Vitor Belfort and Evander Holyfield, if that s any indication, and Vitor was 45.
18
SPEAKER_03
Right.
18
SPEAKER_01
I know.
18
SPEAKER_01
So is Jake.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
18
SPEAKER_01
You think Jake is?
18
SPEAKER_01
Maybe.
18
SPEAKER_03
Maybe.
18
SPEAKER_03
I mean, why wouldn t he be?
18
SPEAKER_03
But he s also young.
18
SPEAKER_01
And he s still 27.
18
SPEAKER_01
Right.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
18
SPEAKER_01
So maybe he s not, but either way.
18
SPEAKER_01
He s got natural testosterone.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
18
SPEAKER_01
A lot of it.
18
SPEAKER_03
Weren t you just shooting a movie?
18
SPEAKER_01
What?
18
SPEAKER_01
That s right.
18
SPEAKER_01
Denzel?
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
18
SPEAKER_03
What d you do?
18
SPEAKER_03
I m shooting a movie.
18
SPEAKER_03
With Denzel?
18
SPEAKER_01
No!
18
SPEAKER_01
What?
18
SPEAKER_01
No.
18
SPEAKER_01
I call him Denzel.
18
SPEAKER_01
Who the fuck said Denzel?
18
SPEAKER_03
Did you say Denzel?
18
SPEAKER_03
Nah, I call myself Denzel.
18
SPEAKER_01
I forget my Denzel.
18
SPEAKER_03
I m working on an independent film I m doing in L.A.
18
SPEAKER_03
right now.
18
SPEAKER_03
Nice.
18
SPEAKER_01
Don t get stabbed by any homeless people.
18
SPEAKER_01
Nah, nah, nah.
18
SPEAKER_01
Be careful what you say.
18
SPEAKER_01
Nah, man.
18
SPEAKER_03
L.A., I don t like L.A.
18
SPEAKER_01
It s weird.
18
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
18
SPEAKER_01
It s weird now.
18
SPEAKER_03
There s no optimism left in the city.
18
SPEAKER_01
No, it s a city that s abandoned.
18
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, San Francisco.
18
SPEAKER_01
Weird place.
18
SPEAKER_01
Oh, they re all fucked.
18
SPEAKER_01
And it happened so quick.
18
SPEAKER_01
It makes me wonder, like, what is that going to be like in five years?
18
SPEAKER_00
Everybody got out of there, huh?
18
SPEAKER_00
Look how quick San Francisco got cleaned up when Xi Jinping showed up.
18
SPEAKER_00
Isn t that amazing?
18
SPEAKER_01
And then, bam, right back to it.
18
SPEAKER_01
I was saying, if I was the mayor of San Francisco, I d just buy that dude a condo.
18
SPEAKER_01
Like, come stay.
18
SPEAKER_00
Whenever you re here, they re going to clean the streets.
18
SPEAKER_00
All the problems are fixed, right?
18
SPEAKER_01
This is going to fucking take care of them.
18
SPEAKER_01
When he came into town for a conference, they cleaned up the streets.
18
SPEAKER_01
Everything.
18
SPEAKER_01
Everything.
18
SPEAKER_00
They got rid of all the homeless people.
18
SPEAKER_00
Put barriers up so they couldn t get up.
19
SPEAKER_01
Exactly what Gavin Newsom said that was so hilarious.
19
SPEAKER_01
He said well when guests come over you clean up your house He s a psychopath he can lie to your face without even blinking an eye so weird to watch him do it, too It s like like 1980s Roadhouse line real
19
SPEAKER_01
You know, it s not even good.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s the one that got caught eating out.
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
19
SPEAKER_03
He s like, well, I ve been bad.
19
SPEAKER_03
You got me or something.
19
SPEAKER_03
He was like, you shouldn t really do that.
19
SPEAKER_03
And I was, you know, my bad.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s like, dude, you fucking sly.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s so slick and he looks like a guy who could be president.
19
SPEAKER_01
And we re dumb.
19
SPEAKER_01
We re like, hey, I think he talks good.
19
SPEAKER_01
He looks like Christian Bale in American Psycho.
19
SPEAKER_01
He does.
19
SPEAKER_01
He does.
19
SPEAKER_01
But it s like, you know, if he says the right things and he talks the right way, look, Biden won.
19
SPEAKER_01
Just say it with a smile and you re good.
19
SPEAKER_01
Biden won and he s barely alive.
19
SPEAKER_01
So yeah, there you go.
19
SPEAKER_01
And they re running him again.
19
SPEAKER_03
I d rather have Terry Crews from Idiocracy.
19
SPEAKER_01
Terry Crews could win right now.
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah The wildest shit the rock told me he told it on the podcast that they called him and contacted him about running for president Yeah, thanks wasn t on the podcast Yeah, they contacted him and asked him if he wanted to run the rock I
19
SPEAKER_01
What?
19
SPEAKER_01
That s idiocracy.
19
SPEAKER_01
I mean, for sure.
19
SPEAKER_01
How about he could win?
19
SPEAKER_01
I know.
19
SPEAKER_01
I would probably vote for him.
19
SPEAKER_01
I would probably vote for him.
19
SPEAKER_01
I mean, the dude is disciplined.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s a good guy.
19
SPEAKER_01
Jacked.
19
SPEAKER_00
I want a Jack president.
19
SPEAKER_01
I want a president where every other president has to step aside.
19
SPEAKER_01
Bitch, The Rock is here.
19
SPEAKER_01
The Rock Johnson details how a political party asked him to run for president.
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, on my podcast.
19
SPEAKER_01
It s hilarious.
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
19
SPEAKER_01
Isn t that wild, dude?
19
SPEAKER_01
Asked him to run for president.
19
SPEAKER_01
You know it s for the Democrats, for sure.
19
SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
19
SPEAKER_01
And if he did win ... I mean, he had brushed by it before the last election.
19
SPEAKER_01
Ted Cruz!
19
SPEAKER_01
Ted Cruz!
19
SPEAKER_01
There he goes.
19
SPEAKER_01
That s the president right there.
19
SPEAKER_01
Come on, son.
19
SPEAKER_01
If The Rock won and then came out like that ... Brando, that was the name of it.
19
SPEAKER_01
Imagine if The Rock won and came out with that outfit on.
19
SPEAKER_03
Can I just say, if anybody out there has not seen Idiocracy, they should watch that show.
19
SPEAKER_01
Oh my God, it s so good.
19
SPEAKER_01
It holds up.
19
SPEAKER_01
Mike judges them.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s a genius.
19
SPEAKER_01
Orpheus Space.
19
SPEAKER_01
Beavis and Butthead, everything.
19
SPEAKER_01
Mike Judge is the man.
19
SPEAKER_01
Office Space.
19
SPEAKER_01
Office Space.
19
SPEAKER_01
King of the Hill.
19
SPEAKER_01
King of the Hill.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s the man.
19
SPEAKER_01
Mike Judge is the man.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s a great guy, too.
19
SPEAKER_01
He lives out here.
19
SPEAKER_01
That s wild.
19
SPEAKER_03
We had him on Unfiltered once, and the fact that he knew one of my fights.
19
SPEAKER_03
I get weird when people know, because I don t think anybody watches anything, you know?
19
SPEAKER_03
And I was all like, because I don t get impressed with guys in Hollywood and stuff, but I fucking love Office Space.
19
SPEAKER_03
and all of his shit.
19
SPEAKER_03
When I like somebody s work, I m like, whoa.
19
SPEAKER_01
No, he s just a regular dude, too.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s a real cool guy.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s a fan, like a real fan of MMA.
19
SPEAKER_01
He loves fights.
19
SPEAKER_01
I met him years ago, too.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s been coming to the fights for a long fucking time.
19
SPEAKER_00
And he comes to the fights, too?
19
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19
SPEAKER_00
I met him at the fights.
19
SPEAKER_00
First time I ever met him.
19
SPEAKER_01
Was he a comedian as well, or was he just a writer?
19
SPEAKER_01
I don t think he did stand-up.
19
SPEAKER_01
I might be mistaken.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s pretty fucking funny.
19
SPEAKER_01
I don t know.
19
SPEAKER_01
He s a hilarious dude, though.
19
SPEAKER_03
And what s upsetting is these movies,
19
SPEAKER_03
that they ve become cult classics.
19
SPEAKER_03
I don t think Idiocracy or Office Space, I might be wrong, but I don t think they made a lot of money, but they are fucking classics.
19
SPEAKER_01
If you see those movies.
19
SPEAKER_01
Oh, I bet those movies made money.
19
SPEAKER_01
Do you think they made money?
19
SPEAKER_01
I bet Office Space made money.
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I don t know about that.
19
SPEAKER_01
Office Space was pretty big.
19
SPEAKER_01
Was it?
19
SPEAKER_01
And then you gotta think about all the DVD sales and all the streaming sales.
19
SPEAKER_01
Well, that s the difference.
19
SPEAKER_03
I don t think it s made in the theaters.
19
SPEAKER_01
A big theatrical thing.
19
SPEAKER_01
I m not sure.
19
SPEAKER_01
I don t think it did.
19
SPEAKER_01
Damn, that s a funny movie.
19
SPEAKER_01
That is pretty funny.
19
SPEAKER_01
That is such a good movie.
19
SPEAKER_01
But those movies, you can t get them today.
19
SPEAKER_01
They don t make them anymore.
19
SPEAKER_01
They don t make those wild, insane, funny, something about Mary type movies.
19
SPEAKER_01
You can t.
19
SPEAKER_00
No.
19
SPEAKER_00
Somebody s always going to get offended.
19
SPEAKER_01
Something about Mary was fucking great.
19
SPEAKER_02
I remember Ben Stiller s put out quite a few of them.
19
SPEAKER_01
Oh yeah.
19
SPEAKER_01
Dodgeball.
19
SPEAKER_01
Tropic Thunder is one of the all time great comics.
19
SPEAKER_01
I m telling you.
19
SPEAKER_01
Could not make it today.
19
SPEAKER_01
One of my favorites.
19
SPEAKER_03
A lot of the humor was just different back then.
19
SPEAKER_01
You can t just say you were allowed to joke about it.
19
SPEAKER_01
You were allowed to actually be funny.
19
SPEAKER_01
What about Ricky Bobby?
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, man.
19
SPEAKER_01
God damn, that was a good one.
19
SPEAKER_01
Tom Cruise, use your witchcraft!
19
SPEAKER_01
They don t even make funny movies anymore.
19
SPEAKER_01
It s such a judgmental world that we live in now.
19
SPEAKER_01
Everybody s trying to attack things and take people down.
19
SPEAKER_01
It s just so stupid.
19
SPEAKER_01
In the beginning of Hangover, your friends, they re just so immature.
19
SPEAKER_03
Paging Dr. Faggot.
19
SPEAKER_03
He s sitting there like.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s just silly.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s just silliness, you know?
19
SPEAKER_03
But you can t... People need more silliness.
19
SPEAKER_01
They do.
19
SPEAKER_01
We all do.
19
SPEAKER_01
That s why this is fun.
19
SPEAKER_01
That shit was great.
19
SPEAKER_01
That s why the four of us get together.
19
SPEAKER_01
So we need a name.
19
SPEAKER_01
Cucks?
19
SPEAKER_01
Is the Cucks sticking around?
19
SPEAKER_01
Is that going to be it?
19
SPEAKER_01
I have to be a Cuck?
19
SPEAKER_01
Unfortunately... I think we could take that name.
19
SPEAKER_01
I think we re the fucking Cucks.
19
SPEAKER_01
Why not?
19
SPEAKER_01
It s a funny thing to call yourself.
19
SPEAKER_01
Just take that name.
19
SPEAKER_03
You know why?
19
SPEAKER_03
Because you d think we would come up with something toxic.
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, like the four horsemen.
19
SPEAKER_01
But no.
19
SPEAKER_01
The four horsemen.
19
SPEAKER_01
Fuck you, Rogan.
19
SPEAKER_03
When you wrote that in the group text, I go, I m gonna wait until he says that.
19
SPEAKER_01
The bulldogs.
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, what are we?
19
SPEAKER_01
Pythons.
19
SPEAKER_03
I think that Cucks is a perfect- Cucks is funny.
19
SPEAKER_01
It s funny.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s like calling me tall or something.
19
SPEAKER_01
We re talking shit right from the jump.
19
SPEAKER_01
You can t take a show seriously that s called Cucks.
19
SPEAKER_01
Definitely not.
19
SPEAKER_01
I want to see that.
19
SPEAKER_01
On an episode of the Joe Rogan Experience called Cucks.
19
SPEAKER_03
You got to protect your parks, then you got the cucks.
19
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I like it.
19
SPEAKER_01
I like it.
19
SPEAKER_01
So that s it for now.
19
SPEAKER_01
We ll put a bookmark on it.
19
SPEAKER_01
We ll have to think about it.
19
SPEAKER_01
You might get home, wake up in the middle of the night and go, I can t be a cuck.
19
SPEAKER_01
No, no.
19
SPEAKER_01
John Rollo s gonna be the one texting us.
19
SPEAKER_01
Boys, let s rethink this.
19
SPEAKER_00
The four horsemen has a ring to it.
19
SPEAKER_00
For the record, I m all in on Cucks.
19
SPEAKER_01
For the record, yeah.
19
SPEAKER_01
I feel like Cucks is it.
19
SPEAKER_01
It came to be in a dream.
19
SPEAKER_01
Peer pressure.
19
SPEAKER_03
If it stays in here, it s fine.
19
SPEAKER_03
At my school, if somebody goes, hey, Professor Cuck, I m going to fuck you up.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s not happening, but I like it.
19
SPEAKER_03
That s good.
19
SPEAKER_01
All right, gentlemen, give everybody, bravo, your Instagram and Ground Control.
19
SPEAKER_02
Yep, got groundcontrols, groundcontrolbaltimore.com, fightpromotions, shogunfights.com.
19
SPEAKER_01
That s a fucking great show too, Shogun.
19
SPEAKER_01
You guys been watching Shogun?
19
SPEAKER_01
That was sick, man.
19
SPEAKER_01
God damn.
19
SPEAKER_01
I love that show.
19
SPEAKER_01
No, I didn t see that.
19
SPEAKER_01
I m going to watch it though.
19
SPEAKER_01
Are you watching it?
19
SPEAKER_03
It s good?
19
SPEAKER_03
Yes.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s good.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s great.
19
SPEAKER_03
The reading?
19
SPEAKER_03
The subtitles, you don t even know the end?
19
SPEAKER_01
No, no, no.
19
SPEAKER_01
It s not a lot.
19
SPEAKER_01
It s in and out, but it s worth it.
19
SPEAKER_01
They speak English, too.
19
SPEAKER_01
I m gonna watch it, man.
19
SPEAKER_01
Bro, it s fucking good.
19
SPEAKER_03
I watch The Yellowstone, but they get too much into the ... It s a good show, I like it, but then they do stuff just for the Midwestern people.
19
SPEAKER_03
I don t give a fuck about ... They play the hee-haw music, and they re like ... I m folding that shit.
19
SPEAKER_01
You wanna watch ... Watch 1883.
19
SPEAKER_03
I watched it.
19
SPEAKER_01
Oh, I watched that.
19
SPEAKER_03
I watched 1883 and I watched 1923.
19
SPEAKER_01
They were both great.
19
SPEAKER_03
I m waiting for the next 1923 to come out.
19
SPEAKER_01
You seen it?
19
SPEAKER_03
When the one gets back from Africa?
19
SPEAKER_02
That s the one.
19
SPEAKER_02
It s really good.
19
SPEAKER_02
I mean, they re both good.
19
SPEAKER_02
I thought that one was better.
19
SPEAKER_02
I like that one.
19
SPEAKER_01
They re both great.
19
SPEAKER_01
1883 is fucking amazing, too, but it s over when it s over.
19
SPEAKER_02
Taylor Sheridan?
19
SPEAKER_02
Oh, yeah.
19
SPEAKER_02
He s a great guy, too.
19
SPEAKER_01
I had him on here.
19
SPEAKER_03
Sicario is maybe one of the sickest movies of all time.
19
SPEAKER_03
That was depressing, though, the 1883.
19
SPEAKER_03
Yeah, but that s what life was like back then.
19
SPEAKER_01
That was a brutal existence.
19
SPEAKER_03
Even in 1923, I like when they start coming up with the refrigerator and shit.
19
SPEAKER_03
But yeah, yeah, exactly.
19
SPEAKER_03
Even the ones that are resisting it, they re like, well, I m going to have to get one of those washing machines or something.
19
SPEAKER_03
They re like, it s just coming out.
19
SPEAKER_03
They re like, look, I want to keep it to our traditions, but listen, I got to get that dishwasher.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s weird.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s like when it s just coming out, it s very cool.
19
SPEAKER_03
Good shit.
19
SPEAKER_01
All right.
19
SPEAKER_01
So Shogun Fights, Ground Control.
19
SPEAKER_00
And bemoremma is Instagram.
19
SPEAKER_00
Dean?
19
SPEAKER_00
Catch me at the next Karate Con Batman, Joe Schilling and Luke Rockhold taking a year.
19
SPEAKER_00
That s right, when is that happening?
19
SPEAKER_00
April 20th.
19
SPEAKER_00
Oh shit, I like Joe Schilling.
19
SPEAKER_00
Joe Schilling s a bad man.
19
SPEAKER_00
What about Modern Rose s?
19
SPEAKER_00
And Modern Rose, my restaurant in Hollywood, Florida at the Modern Rose Hollywood.
19
SPEAKER_00
Do you have a restaurant?
19
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, man.
19
SPEAKER_00
Coffee shop.
19
SPEAKER_00
Nice food, it s beautiful.
19
SPEAKER_00
Any gluten free, huh?
19
SPEAKER_03
UFC unfiltered with myself and Jimmy Norton my little bird and Instagram.
19
SPEAKER_03
It s Matt Sarah BJJ.
19
SPEAKER_01
All right, beautiful.
19
SPEAKER_01
Thank you gentlemen