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So let me set the scene for you right now.
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Well, not for me.
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No, no, you re here.
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Yeah.
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OK, so we re we re two days out from the Met Gala.
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We re sitting on the couch in the hotel room and there s no blankets.
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So we re using a robe as a blanket over our little laps.
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And I m here with Jared, who is my stylist and my best friend.
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You re like, I m not your, you re not my best friend.
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Speak for yourself.
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No, you re my best friend.
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Really?
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Yes.
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Well, you can t, I mean, now you have to say that.
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Who else is my best friend?
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Okay, Drew.
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Yeah.
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How are you feeling?
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I feel good.
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I m feeling great on this couch, loving this hotel room.
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It is a great hotel room.
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Generally, I feel good.
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I feel like it s a crazy weekend leading up to it, but
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I feel calm this year.
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Okay, that s what I was going to ask.
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Do you feel calm this year?
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I feel calm this year because I feel like we re quite locked in.
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Normally, maybe we re jumping into this too quick, but normally every other year we re doing first fittings this weekend.
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First fittings happen sometimes the weekend of, and we have had much more time this year, so I feel good.
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How do you feel?
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I mean, I feel so good.
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It s true that we have had this super extended Met experience this year because literally right after the Met last year, you re like, okay, so I m thinking about Met next year.
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I m like, Jared, what if they don t even invite me?
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And you re like, it s okay, we ll have a dress.
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I ll give it to someone else.
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No, I m kidding.
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But we did our first fitting like fucking two months ago.
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are so prepared.
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I mean, I ve been hearing stories about people doing their first fitting tomorrow, Sunday, before the Met.
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So we re just chill.
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But that s normal.
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Lots of people do that.
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We re being kind of weird about this.
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We take it really seriously.
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We take it too seriously.
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It s cringe and weird.
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It s embarrassing, for sure.
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And we can t tell anyone about it.
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No, but you also have four other people that you re styling at the same time.
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This year there are multiple people, which is different too, usually I ve had.
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you or one other person.
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But now there s some more people, so we just have to get everybody ready to go.
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I m managing it well.
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I mean, everybody is like, they re all lovely people.
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No one s a diva, no one s difficult.
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Everyone s very kind, so everyone s trusting and everyone feels good.
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I feel good this year.
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It s so weird to talk about The Met now and then have this episode come out.
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It s like a time capsule.
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This episode s gonna come out.
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after the Met?
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It is nice to be able to talk openly about it because you even like who you re wearing and what it s like because it s so sneaky.
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What year is this for you and me?
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Four.
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Yeah.
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Four feels like a good number.
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We have had chaotic years.
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What s been like the most chaotic?
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I m trying to remember.
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Um, the most chaotic.
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Maybe the first one.
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First one, I would say it was chaotic just because neither of us knew what was going on.
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Year one was really stressful because it was just all so new, but it was also exciting and weirdly less intimidating because we didn t know- How big it was.
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Yeah, it s almost like you know it s a big deal in fashion and whatever, but until you go and do it, you don t realize why everyone- For sure.
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Takes it so seriously.
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I think it s just because it s so visible.
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Yeah, extreme.
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Well, also, you re having to do so much more mental work than anybody else going because you have to look amazing.
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Like, I think that was your first red carpet.
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Honestly?
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Genuinely.
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Wait.
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I don t know if there was a red carpet before the Met.
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I wasn t involved.
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Well, I never did a red carpet without you.
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You, your first red carpet was the Met Gala then.
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That is so, how did I, well it was also like, I didn t know how to pose.
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Yeah.
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I like didn t know what I was doing.
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It worked though.
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I think it worked.
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I was totally fine.
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I mean there were definitely some awkward poses happening.
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I actually don t think you had any awkward poses that year.
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Now we like practice though.
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Yeah, but you did very well.
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And that was kind of an awkward dress.
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It had this side tail situation.
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Yeah, it was hard to manage.
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You did great.
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But in theory, it was a simple look.
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The first year, it was just my natural hair blown out.
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Pretty simple makeup.
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A dress that, honestly, doesn t have this long train.
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I can manage it all myself.
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I can just, whatever.
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Whereas, every year, I feel like it s become more... It hasn t become more complicated.
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I feel like second year,
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I did have a train.
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That was complicated.
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And that s stressful because you re not there to manage the look.
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A lot of times these red carpet looks, they don t look right unless they re placed perfectly.
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Placed perfectly.
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Which is so interesting.
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This whole thing is smoke and mirrors.
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So there s people who are helping to straighten out the dress and stuff there, but you can t be there to make sure everything still looks as it s supposed to.
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Do you have a meltdown about that on the day of?
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Are you refreshing Getty Images, freaking out?
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Of course, I m literally waiting for something to go wrong.
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But it hasn t gone wrong for, I don t think there s been like, I ve never had something where I m like, oh my God, her top fell off.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, it s not like, oh my God, nipple out.
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Kind of chic.
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That would be cool.
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Maybe that could happen this year.
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How are you feeling?
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I m feeling so chill.
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Well, actually no, let me elaborate.
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There are a few things I worry about every year.
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Number one, how am I going to up my game with the interviews?
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Like I don t want it to feel exactly like the year before.
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I m always like, Oh, what can I bring to the table?
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That s maybe a bit new, but it s kind of hard to reinvent that wheel.
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Like it sort of just is what it is in a way.
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Like, and it s natural and it s dependent on the other person.
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And there s kind of,
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There s nothing you can really do.
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No, and there s not a lot of planning you can really do.
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And also, you also don t have much time.
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You have to ask people what they re wearing, how they re feeling, and then they leave.
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And then they leave.
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And it s like, I try to get something else in there too, if I can.
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What s your favorite movie?
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Yeah, literally.
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Well, see, that s what I m thinking.
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It s like, how can I make it feel fresh or like bring some new
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questions to it, but it s also like I cannot overthink it.
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Yeah.
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So I m just trying not to overthink it.
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So that s where I m at with that.
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I m a little stressed because I m out of control of it.
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I don t know what it s going to be until the moment.
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And I don t know who I m going to be interviewing.
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Like I know who s going.
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Yeah.
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Because I had my table read today.
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How was it?
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SPEAKER_01
It was great.
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Do you want to explain what that is?
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Oh, yeah.
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The table read is basically now you re interviewing me.
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I love it.
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It s basically where I go to the Vogue office and they tell me everyone who s going and what they want to talk about in their lives or careers, what they don t want to talk about in their lives or careers so that everybody feels comfortable and safe and loved.
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Do you have someone is someone whispering these things to you again on the carpet?
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Yeah.
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They have like a full binder with all that.
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So that s stressful.
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Also, what really stresses me out is like
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I want the day of, like you want, there s this fear, it s so vain, but it s like you re, you want to look good.
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Yeah, of course.
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And so it s this stress of like, is my skin going to be good that day?
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Like, am I going to pose well that day?
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Like there s all these things like, is my face going to look good?
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washed out or whatever, or am I retaining water because it s my period and my face is bloated?
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I don t know, it s just all these fears.
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No, thank God.
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I feel like a lot of people are.
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Really?
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What do you think is the worst thing that could happen?
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On Met Day?
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Yeah, I don t think period is the worst.
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I was on my period one year when I wore the white skirt, I think.
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Yeah, I remember that.
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Fully on my fucking period.
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No, stark white skirt.
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There actually has never been a whiter skirt.
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You ve never worn a whiter skirt.
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I don t know how I didn t bleed.
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I don t either.
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You were so cleansed.
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I was clenching my cooter.
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Y all have never seen anything like it.
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What is the worst thing that could happen on that day?
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I mean, you get so sick you can t go.
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That s, yeah, but is there such a thing as being too sick?
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I would go anyway.
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Imagine you re like food poisoning.
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I would go anyway.
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I m actually not kidding.
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I m fully serious.
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Wait, this is a good game.
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What if you got hit by a car and had memory loss and had to do the interviews?
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You knew it was the Met.
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That s so dark.
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You knew it was the Met.
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But I don t remember.
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But you don t remember who these people are, why you re there,
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Anything.
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But you know you re gonna look amazing.
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Oh, if I know I m gonna look amazing, I m still going.
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The dress is great.
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But you have to interview everybody.
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Can I be honest?
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It d probably be the best interview I ever do.
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Because when you re not, when you re overthinking the interview, you re like, that s when it s weird.
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That s true.
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I feel like most people don t realize that you pretty much go in cold turkey.
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I m full cold turkey, whereas like, for a podcast.
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I don t know if cold turkey s the right term, but.
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It is not, but I love.
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You know what I mean?
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You understand.
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The way that you said it, you had spirit and it was close enough.
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That you felt it.
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So I say that we run with it.
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Okay, great.
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So you go in cold turkey.
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Yeah, like, I don t plan.
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Yeah.
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Which is crazy.
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Which is so crazy.
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I can t, like, it s like, I do, I mean, planning in the sense of, like, I m aware of who s going and I m trying to be aware of, like, what they re working on and stuff at the time so that I can maybe reference it.
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However, I do feel like, you know, a lot of times celebrities, they talk about what they re working on in that very moment so much on press tours and stuff that I think a lot of times people are excited to talk about
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themselves a little more, and something a little bit more personal, because I think most of the time people are like, my God, I ve been talking about my fucking movie for six months.
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I have nothing else to say, I m just repeating the script.
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Yeah, it s like a how are you is gonna have a more interesting answer for them.
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They re gonna be excited to answer that question.
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Okay, but anyway, back to fashion.
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What is your ideal formula for putting together a Met look?
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in the sense of working with a designer or not, maybe sourcing archive, what s sort of the ideal relationship with the glam team?
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What s your sort of dream scenario?
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What makes it the smoothest and the most effective?
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And what is the opposite?
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Like, what is a challenging situation?
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I think something I didn t know before our first year was that
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It s so much more effective when you start these conversations with designers to pull references from their past runway shows, because everyone s mostly creating custom things.
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So the first year, I think I had all these ideas and I presented it to Louis Vuitton, who you re going with, and none of them had anything to do with the brand.
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Like nothing was like from past seasons, an archive pull, anything.
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And it was just like for inspiration.
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Yeah.
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Quite quickly.
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I was like, oh you have to Like pull from what they do best one so that they feel like it s highlighting their work But also like you want to pick things that they ve done well in the past because you see examples of it You know that it went well
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And like it just helps speed the process along.
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Yeah.
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Because everyone feels included and it s like leaning into people s strengths.
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So that is a I mean like that s where I try and start with anybody is like picking things from designers paths that are strong instead of just like random references.
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So that s kind of what I can do.
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But then it is always nice when designers are receptive and excited and like want to collaborate because very rarely do talent and stylists and designers all like have the same idea.
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Totally.
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Are you kidding me?
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Ever?
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Literally ever?
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Never.
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It never happens.
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Ever.
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So, which is great.
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It s like everyone brings something to the table.
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Yes.
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Which makes it like this collective fashion stew.
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Stew and soup.
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Stew.
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SPEAKER_00
I m hungry.
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SPEAKER_00
Can you tell?
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SPEAKER_00
Ooh, that sounds yummy.
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SPEAKER_00
Should we have stew?
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We should have stew.
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We should call down and say thanks.
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SPEAKER_00
Do you have stew?
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SPEAKER_00
They d be like, please leave our hotel.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, they re like, you re being moved to another hotel.
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SPEAKER_00
You can get stew on the street.
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Yeah, you can get, yeah.
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You can get stew from a bodega.
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Do not do that here.
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Where were we?
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Oh, fashion stew.
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Oh yeah, stew.
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Okay, back to stew.
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So, I mean, when a designer s receptive, that s like so nice, just because it s so much better when it s a collaboration, when it s like people who are down to like,
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collab like really collab yeah and like want like talent and stylist opinion same for hair and makeup I think the best possible scenario is when everybody s like trusting and excited and like respects everyone around them which I feel like I think we ve gotten there but
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We were quite young for our first two years, and it s hard to be the youngest people in the room and also be the ones who are supposed to be directing it because, I mean, why would they trust us?
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We re like- We re little kids.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, we re literally- We re stinky little kids.
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Like, gross.
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SPEAKER_00
We re honestly gross and we need to change our diaper.
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That s kind of how people look at you, though.
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I know.
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And but I get it.
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I would, too, if you re like have been in the industry for years and you have like a 19 year old and a 23 year old like telling you what to do.
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It s like, shut the fuck up.
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Yeah.
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One thousand percent.
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I mean, but I do feel like.
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year after year we re becoming more and more involved.
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Completely.
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But I would say like the first three years we were just kind of fish out of water in a way.
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It was just still such a new thing and I feel like this is the first year where it s like Jean-Paul Gaultier was so down to collab with us and make something that felt like a true marriage of all of us in a new way that we ve never experienced.
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Like they are asking us
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Like what do you think of this exact like material?
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Like do you want to use this type of lace or do you want to use this type of lace or this type of lace?
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Like they re giving us so many options.
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Options so that we re really involved in the design process.
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I mean especially you like you re helping them choose like very specific details.
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But I think where it gets challenging is
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The Met is such a public event that everybody wants their art in one way or another to show through.
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You know what I m saying?
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So it s like, that s why I think there s such a conflict of interest a lot of times.
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It s like the brand wants to represent themselves in a certain way.
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The stylist wants to represent themselves in a certain way.
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Hair and makeup want to represent themselves in a certain way.
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And then of course, the person wearing all of it wants to represent themselves in a certain way.
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So there s like so many people who want
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themselves to be represented in the way that feels truly them as an artist.
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And that is where it s challenging because it s valid.
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It s like, yeah, it makes sense that everyone wants to showcase their art and have it come through.
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But it s like, there are compromises that have to be made in a way.
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Not every part of every person involved can shine, but that doesn t mean it s not going to be a great representation of everybody.
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Yes.
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I think we both like to play around and be involved.
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We re really hands-on.
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Probably to a point that everybody s like, can they just fucking stop?
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Can they get out?
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SPEAKER_01
We never can work with them again.
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Why do they like fashion this much?
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SPEAKER_00
People hate us.
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People hate us, but I m ultimately going to be snatched.
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And then they love.
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And then they love me again.
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Let s talk about creating this year s look.
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As I said earlier, we started doing fittings for it and having meetings for it, what, two months ago?
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SPEAKER_00
It was during Paris Fashion Week, which was February?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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Is that right?
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SPEAKER_00
Yep.
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I think so.
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Yeah.
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A while ago.
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Explain the whole process.
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The whole process, well first we put together a list of people that we wanted and Vogue has a say in who you re wearing and it ended up being Gaultier and when we were in Paris for Paris Fashion Week we decided to have a meeting at their headquarters which is
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Gorgeous.
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I will say that was like one of the best days slash meetings of my entire life.
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It was the best meeting ever because it s the most beautiful building in Paris and there s like the most amazing view and they have the whole atelier in there.
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And so you can just go see them making like hand sewing all these crazy things.
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It was the coolest thing I ve ever experienced.
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Yeah and I mean you had scoured
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Vogue, Runway, or whatever, and found so many good references that made sense for the theme, because that s the other thing, is that it can be hard to be on theme, because again, there are- I think it s very hard to be on theme.
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It is very hard to be on theme.
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I think, well, it depends on the theme especially, but I think in general it is hard to be on theme, because again, everybody has their own vision.
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Totally.
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So you have to find something that s on theme, but also in the brand s DNA that you re wearing.
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So like you found all these references that could be torn off the runway and just warranted the event because it matches the theme enough.
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You know what I m saying?
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So you, that was really smart on your end, finding those references beforehand, bringing them to them and saying, this is the fucking vibe you guys.
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Yeah.
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But also let s make it new.
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Well, yeah, we showed up.
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We had this meeting.
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They showed us their gorgeous offices with some of the best fashion I ve ever seen.
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And then we laid out all of our ideas.
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And they had someone sitting next to us sketching as we were talking.
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Also the coolest thing that s ever happened.
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So cool.
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This is like where I m like a nerd.
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Like that s like that.
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I would not even you re like, yeah, coolest fashion nerd ever.
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You need like a little pair of black glasses with a little tape around the center.
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And then like but it s like ultimately like Chanel.
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Wait, that s so cute.
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You know what I mean?
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Like we do that nerdy fashion nerd glasses.
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I love I feel like a brand needs to come out with those is like a
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SPEAKER_00
By the way, someone will know that would be really cute, you know?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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Right.
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That s actually adorable.
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That s like Balenciaga.
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I was going to say they love being silly like that.
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Yeah.
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I ll tell them.
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SPEAKER_01
OK, tell them.
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SPEAKER_00
I will.
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SPEAKER_00
No, we need to keep that.
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SPEAKER_00
But we had that meeting, they had someone sketching, then they took all of your measurements, they measure your pinky toe, the distance from your toe to your thumb.
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They actually measure every single inch of my fucking body.
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SPEAKER_00
They re like bottom of ear to top of ear to eye, just in case.
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SPEAKER_00
Just in case.
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For the fashion glasses.
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Then after that, we had a couple Zooms where they put together some options, some sketches, and then we just gave them feedback.
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they came to LA, we did our first fitting, which was like what, like a week and a half ago?
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When was two weeks?
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I don t remember.
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Two weeks, I think.
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And it was a good fitting.
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Everything was great.
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Like we had a few things to change.
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Like I think, you know, I have two looks because I have my main like look for the carpet and then I have a slightly less dramatic version for the,
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interviews and so, you know, we had to try on two separate dresses, but there were only like a few minor changes to both.
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The carpet dress had more to do.
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Well, it was unfinished.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, the interview dress was closer to being done.
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So that look was pretty solid.
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It was like done, but also even like even the actual dress dress was close to being done.
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It s close enough.
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And it like everything fit really nicely because also this specific look is it s
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sleeveless corset vibes.
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And sometimes that can be a tough one to be flattering because you get the armpit vagina, you know, it doesn t give your arm the space to move properly.
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Like it just sort of like if you re if you have a strapless corset, it can squeeze you at the top.
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They can go up too high and then be very unflattering.
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And I was very nervous about that when we went into this look doing a corset.
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I was like, Oh God, like I m going to definitely have a lot of notes about, you know, let s get rid of this armpit vagina.
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SPEAKER_01
And ultimately there was none.
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There was no armpit vagina.
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I don t need more than one vagina on me, on any red carpet.
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All I need is one.
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SPEAKER_01
What underwear am I going to wear under this, I m thinking, because it s kind of see-through.
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SPEAKER_00
It s a little bit see-through, like the thinnest matching, like... Are you... Well, I was going to suggest somewhat of a thong, but maybe just... I would wear a thong.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, cool.
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SPEAKER_00
Like a thin one, like a little seamless.
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SPEAKER_01
Super thin thong.
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Barely there.
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SPEAKER_01
Okay, that s fine.
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I hate thong.
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SPEAKER_00
Maybe we can make it a little thicker than a thong.
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SPEAKER_01
Like a bikini.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, like a bikini.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, that s actually big.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, it s huge.
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SPEAKER_01
That s covering a whole lot.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but then is there anything between bikini and thong?
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SPEAKER_01
I don t think that there is.
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SPEAKER_00
Maybe there s not.
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SPEAKER_01
Maybe we should create that.
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SPEAKER_01
So we have a new company.
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In one day.
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So we have a new company starting.
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And as you can see, fashion glasses and in between thongs and bikinis.
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SPEAKER_01
That s great.
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SPEAKER_00
I think this is a huge market.
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SPEAKER_01
This is a huge market.
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SPEAKER_01
I love this company.
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SPEAKER_01
What should we call it?
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Thong bikini glasses.
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Can I be honest?
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Open that up in Soho, thong bikini glasses, something called that.
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SPEAKER_01
Genuinely, there would be a line at the door.
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People would be like, I don t even know what they re selling, but the name is so chic.
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Like it actually is like, there s like a lore to that.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, I d be so confused.
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SPEAKER_01
Same, but that s what people would be like excited, like what does it mean, I need to know.
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SPEAKER_00
I ve never seen something like this.
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SPEAKER_01
I ve never seen something like this, I need to know more.
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SPEAKER_01
What is a good Met Gala look to you?
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SPEAKER_01
Like when you see it, you re like, oh fuck.
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What it like, paint that picture for me broadly.
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And I ll tell you what I think too.
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I think it has to take some type of risk for men.
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I think so.
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I think if you re going and not doing something out of the ordinary, it s like, this is the time to do it.
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So something that s different and taking some type of risk.
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Yeah, I just, I would love, I like it when people steer away from boring.
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Because again, when else can you do this?
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I think for regular red carpets, if you just look gorgeous, great.
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But for this, there s so many added layers that there s the opportunity to do something more creatively exciting.
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So that s like the biggest thing.
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But also, I think you can just tell when something is flattering on someone and is the right color for them.
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You can kind of feel when it was a good process and they feel great.
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Personalized to them.
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Totally.
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And their features.
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What do you think is a good Met Gala look?
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number one, something that does feel truly organic to the person.
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Like you see them in it and it s not like they look like they re dressing up in their parents  clothes and they re a kid.
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You know what I mean?
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Um, it feels like, oh, this is them.
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This is not, and it doesn t even necessarily need to be
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their consistent aesthetic.
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You know?
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Just like they re wearing it.
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It just needs to feel like them wearing it.
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Exactly.
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Like they are shining in it.
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It makes sense for them.
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In some way,
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ties into their personality or who they are, whether it s in a costume way, like in a, you know, I m dressing up as someone else or something else way or in a personal way, whatever.
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SPEAKER_01
I also think definitely like beautiful tailoring.
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Yeah.
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Like the way something s tailored, if it s made for the body, like I think a lot of times, like
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Anytime it looks like, oh, you know, that the pants are a little too long or like the corsets a little too tight.
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It s like that s not how it s supposed to be.
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That s not how clothes are supposed to fit.
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SPEAKER_00
No.
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And that but we find ourselves in.
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Do you know what I m saying?
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Totally.
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Like, for example, if we re doing a fitting in there and I m like squeezing into something, it s like we just can t do this.
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Yeah.
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Like even if we could make it fit, it s like
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The perfect tailoring is it s everything it s everything and I feel like that s overlooked for sure like that s why we have to do fittings up until the very last day because your body changes like you could be you could have pooped more and now you need to
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SPEAKER_01
Take it in a little bit on the waist or maybe like you haven t pooped and you need to let it out There s so you need to let it out or you have gas and you re very very good at it And so there s there s always there s so many variables that you need to be doing fittings up until the last day to have something perfectly fitted Which is so crazy, but it kind of reminds me of like weddings, you know what I mean?
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People are doing fittings for their wedding like constantly constantly.
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It s like oh
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SPEAKER_01
Wow, you re still doing fittings for the wedding?
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SPEAKER_00
This is so boring.
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SPEAKER_00
It s so boring, no one cares.
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SPEAKER_00
Do something else.
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SPEAKER_01
Do something else.
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SPEAKER_01
Why are you wearing, it s a white dress.
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SPEAKER_00
Why are you wearing that?
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SPEAKER_00
Okay, that s not camp.
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Jared, it can t be easy to do more than two people.
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SPEAKER_01
No, scratch that.
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More than one person for the Met because it is the biggest carpet of the year in many people s eyes.
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And there are so many details that go into it and there s,
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kind of, it feels like a lot on the line, right?
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Like it s like very high pressure, especially when you are, you know, directly helping someone achieve a good look.
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Like there s a lot of pressure on you to make shit happen.
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Making me so nervous.
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You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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So no, but listen, hear me out, hear me out.
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SPEAKER_01
Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
You re correct.
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SPEAKER_00
You re correct.
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SPEAKER_01
How do you manage having this year,
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what, five different people going to the Met, or four?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, five.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
You re addressing five people for the Met.
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How do you manage that?
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Like, you re not doing it all alone.
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SPEAKER_00
No, I have an insane, amazing team that, it s mostly, I mean, I have a team in LA, and most of them came out.
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SPEAKER_00
I have a team of four.
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Lauren, Brooke, Maya, Emily, shout out.
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And literally obsessed.
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Would be dead without.
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So would you.
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You d probably be naked.
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You think I do things?
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I don t do anything.
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It s just them.
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You re just like, come on you guys, where s my coffee?
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And you don t do anything else.
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It s really inspiring.
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It s who I am.
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So I have a team and they re amazing and they have been like, they re very used to getting people ready for red carpets because there are lots of times where red carpets are happening and multiple people are going.
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So everybody has somebody who s with them, even if I m not able to be there.
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But I try and, one, I try and give everybody as much time and attention as humanly possible.
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Like everybody has one to two, if not three fittings.
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I m usually there for all of them.
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And then kind of like day of,
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I do try and make it to everybody.
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SPEAKER_00
I was actually just planning this out.
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But it really, the way I have to prioritize it is by who has the most complicated look, who needs the most help getting into it, who has the most unknowns with hair and makeup that need direction, and just kind of take it from there.
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SPEAKER_00
Like this year, I m getting a car for myself.
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SPEAKER_00
I ve never done that.
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SPEAKER_00
I ve always, it s like a really-
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I gotta be whipped.
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SPEAKER_00
Like, it s actually a nice system because you re the first person on the carpet.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Which is so weird.
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SPEAKER_00
I know.
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SPEAKER_00
You re the first one there, so you re earlier than everybody else.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
So the way it s gonna work this year is I have another client staying at your hotel.
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SPEAKER_01
Yep.
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Who s starting glam around a similar time.
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So I can run up and down and like be with both of you.
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SPEAKER_00
Yep.
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And then we ll take you to the carpet.
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SPEAKER_01
Yep.
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And then I can swing back and take
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another client who s at another hotel to the carpet and then hopefully swing back and take another in the car to the carpet and then hopefully swing back and take the last couple to the carpet.
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That is so intense.
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SPEAKER_00
I m trying to do it because everybody I want to be with everybody as much as possible but the way I like plan it out is whoever
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I mean who needs the most like the most TLC tender loving care.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, you re You re dressed this year is a full corset from top to bottom This is definitely the most complex one in terms of getting dressed Yeah, and you re the earliest so I can lace you up and then go and then go take care of the next but I don t know you just have to like I m being present at all the fittings to make sure that like
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all the prep going into it is done well is like the most you can do.
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SPEAKER_00
And then showing up as much as humanly possible on the day of is also ideal.
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SPEAKER_00
But once all the looks are like sorted and everything s done, like if the hair and makeup is simple and the outfit is worked out, like you really don t need much assistance.
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It s more just like moral support.
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So I m trying to be there for everybody as much as humanly possible.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, you get it done, babe.
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SPEAKER_00
We re trying.
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You get it done.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, we ll see.
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Do you have any predictions for what other people are gonna wear this year?
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SPEAKER_00
This is a great theme to go off.
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I feel like, I mean, honestly, the best predictions I can give is there s gonna be a lot of florals and nature, but we re doing kind of the darker, grungier,
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more gritty side of nature.
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It s very much about death and decay and things at the end of their life cycle, which was a choice because the story that this theme is based off of, it ends with this enchanted garden being plucked and decayed and then it s just leaves and dead things left.
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Which was fun for us, but I feel like we re going to get a lot of people and like blushing flowers and beautiful blooming things.
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But I don t know.
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Maybe we re wrong.
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Maybe everyone will be like, let s do decay.
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SPEAKER_01
Well, I was excited about the decay because it s it s sort of I like that color scheme.
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I like that.
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I like the silhouettes that go hand in hand with that.
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I just like the overall feel of that more.
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SPEAKER_01
I m a hot topic kid.
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SPEAKER_00
I m super different.
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I m super different.
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Very emo.
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I m really emo.
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SPEAKER_00
Goth.
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And goth.
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Can t say goth on the carpet.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh my god.
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I said something on an interview once and I got so much shit.
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SPEAKER_00
You literally wore black to a red carpet and you were like, this is super goth.
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And the internet was so mad.
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SPEAKER_01
No, but you know what I meant?
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SPEAKER_01
It was more like, I don t know, I m kind of like in a more gothic.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, it was grungy.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I was.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, I said grunge.
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SPEAKER_01
I didn t say goth.
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SPEAKER_00
Did you?
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SPEAKER_01
I said grunge.
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SPEAKER_00
Don t say grunge.
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I said this look is like a bit grungier than what I m like.
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SPEAKER_00
It was like a gorgeous corset dress.
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I don t remember what I said, though.
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So if somebody s going to get mad at me and be like, you re lying and you re gaslighting.
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SPEAKER_00
Something with a G and was either soft or grunge.
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I said grunge, I know that.
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I said something about being more in a grunge era of my life, I guess.
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And everyone was like, this is not grunge.
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You re wearing a gorgeous black gown.
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Strapless dress.
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And red eyeshadow.
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But for me, it was grungier for me.
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But it wasn t necessarily grunge by definition.
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So I definitely.
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We just strike those words from our language.
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Wow, I am not using them anymore.
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Grunge, grunge, stop saying it.
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I m going to be doing the interviews being like, this is so grunge.
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SPEAKER_00
Doing a pink little frilly dress.
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Everyone s like, what are you wearing?
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SPEAKER_00
I m so grunge this year.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh my God, that s a one way ticket to just, I don t know, not really being a fashion girl anymore.
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SPEAKER_00
No.
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SPEAKER_00
It s hard to predict exactly what it ll be, but that s the fun of it.
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SPEAKER_01
Zendaya s a co-chair.
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What s Zendaya going to wear?
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SPEAKER_00
Zendaya s going to wear,
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I feel like she s gonna wanna wear something corseted.
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SPEAKER_00
But I don t know, I feel like she ll wanna, maybe this is more of a hope, but I hope she does something romantic and kind of Edwardian.
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SPEAKER_01
I see romantic in silvery blues for her for this.
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SPEAKER_01
You don t see this?
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SPEAKER_00
Teal weirdly too.
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I see greens.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, green in it too.
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SPEAKER_00
Greens, you re like green, green, yeah, that s what I know.
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SPEAKER_01
Just be psychic and get this all right, I will freak out.
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SPEAKER_00
Can we put, do we win?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, what do we win, you guys?
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SPEAKER_01
We ll just have a shot of tequila at the after party.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
Are you excited for after parties?
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, wait for that.
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SPEAKER_01
We re going to get into that last.
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Pause.
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Because we have to name a few more celebrities and what they re going to wear.
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SPEAKER_01
Okay, what about Ariana Grande?
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SPEAKER_00
Big and pink, because it s wicked.
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SPEAKER_00
She s in her wicked era.
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SPEAKER_01
Big and pink, interesting.
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SPEAKER_01
Okay, I could see her in like a really sheer white
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thing, okay, with like a bunch of flowers tacked onto it.
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Like floral, like it looks like a forest inside of the.
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SPEAKER_00
Her.
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SPEAKER_01
Inside of her.
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It s inside of her.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay, so that s what I picture.
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SPEAKER_00
What s Rihanna gonna wear?
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, Rihanna.
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SPEAKER_00
Interesting, because last year she did a big like floral.
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SPEAKER_00
I loved it.
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SPEAKER_00
Like cape-y thing.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Like flowers, so.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
And there was another year where she did.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh wait, I actually don t remember what that looked like.
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SPEAKER_01
Wow, I need to Google that.
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SPEAKER_00
White.
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SPEAKER_00
She was pregnant.
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iconic as well.
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SPEAKER_01
I hope that one day I can go to a Met Gala pregnant.
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SPEAKER_00
That would be so sick.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh my God.
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SPEAKER_00
You have to do this.
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SPEAKER_01
But I want to be like eight months pregnant, like about to burst.
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SPEAKER_01
Like I like go into labor at the Met Gala vibes.
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SPEAKER_00
Well that s obviously the plan.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
But that would be, you could actually time that out well.
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SPEAKER_00
I know.
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SPEAKER_00
You could find the day, have sex on that day.
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SPEAKER_00
I just have to have sex in November.
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SPEAKER_00
Or no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_00
That s great.
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SPEAKER_00
I am.
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SPEAKER_00
I m not even going to attempt this.
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SPEAKER_01
I think it s August.
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SPEAKER_00
I m going to trust you.
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SPEAKER_01
August, September, maybe.
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SPEAKER_00
I m so tired.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t want to.
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SPEAKER_00
No, we can t do math right now.
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SPEAKER_01
Anyway, so I ll know when to have sex.
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SPEAKER_00
And then you can have you get that would be amazing.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_00
Pregnant Met Gala would be.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_01
Imagine I bring baby daddy of the baby to it and we put him in a matching outfit.
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SPEAKER_00
And then the next year you have the baby in an outfit.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh my boy.
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SPEAKER_01
And then you get a dog.
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SPEAKER_01
You don t even think about it until you re 18.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I actually was thinking about that the other day.
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SPEAKER_01
So baby gets shoved at home with my mom.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay, fine.
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SPEAKER_01
Mommy, you re taking this one.
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SPEAKER_01
But I feel like for me, like let s say, let s put this into the calendar, like 2029 Met Gala, I m pregnant.
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SPEAKER_00
That would be sick.
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SPEAKER_01
It s kind of not in that long, five years.
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SPEAKER_00
That s not that long.
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SPEAKER_01
I ll have a baby at like 27, why not?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
You should have a kid.
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SPEAKER_01
I wouldn t know.
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SPEAKER_00
Don t have a kid yet.
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SPEAKER_01
But it would look so cute at the after parties.
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SPEAKER_00
This is a big question.
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SPEAKER_00
Are you slash we going to after parties this year?
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SPEAKER_00
Because it s been back and forth.
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SPEAKER_01
I have decided yes.
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SPEAKER_01
Which is so fun.
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SPEAKER_01
Listen, here s the reason why I want to go.
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SPEAKER_01
Well, originally I booked my return flight back to L.A.
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SPEAKER_01
Tuesday after the Met Gala at 7 a.m.
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SPEAKER_01
So I was gonna literally stay up all night and then fly home.
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SPEAKER_01
Which is just crazy.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t know what I was thinking.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know why anyone listened to you and booked that.
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SPEAKER_01
I know.
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SPEAKER_00
Someone should have stopped you.
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SPEAKER_01
Where were y all?
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SPEAKER_01
I m like yelling at my team who was in another room.
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SPEAKER_01
No, I don t know what I was thinking.
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SPEAKER_01
I was like, oh, I m just gonna be so tired.
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SPEAKER_00
No, I know what you were thinking.
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SPEAKER_00
You were thinking, if I go to after parties, then I ll get straight on the plane.
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SPEAKER_01
Yes, that s what I was thinking.
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SPEAKER_00
But that s it, that was probably it, because you wouldn t come home and go to sleep.
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SPEAKER_00
You have an illness where if you- I have to pull an all-nighter before my flight.
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SPEAKER_00
And it s so weird.
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SPEAKER_00
It s so awesome.
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SPEAKER_00
And it makes no sense to me, and it s something we ll disagree on until we die.
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SPEAKER_01
I sleep like baba on the plane.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, but there have been times where we have flights early, and we have four hours, and you re like, we should probably just stay out.
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SPEAKER_00
It s like, let s get a three-hour nap.
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SPEAKER_00
No.
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SPEAKER_00
Yes.
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SPEAKER_00
No.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, but you also don t- I ve gotten better about it, though.
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SPEAKER_01
I do it more now.
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SPEAKER_00
You also don t know, because I remember when we took a nap during that shoot, and it was the best decision we d ever made.
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SPEAKER_01
That s true.
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SPEAKER_01
We did have a photo shoot once.
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SPEAKER_01
We were super jet lagged, because it was a shoot in Paris.
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SPEAKER_01
And we were like, OK, we have a one-hour lunch break.
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SPEAKER_01
Can we nap?
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SPEAKER_01
And we fucking napped.
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SPEAKER_00
Hard.
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SPEAKER_01
OK, you re right.
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SPEAKER_01
I m not opposed to a nap.
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SPEAKER_01
The only thing is I just hate flying on the plane so much.
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SPEAKER_00
You want to be knocked out.
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SPEAKER_01
That I want to be knocked out.
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SPEAKER_01
And that s my journey.
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SPEAKER_00
It s fear-based.
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SPEAKER_01
All is well because I moved my flight.
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SPEAKER_00
So we can party and sleep.
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SPEAKER_01
So we can party and then sleep and then wake up at like 11 a.m.
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SPEAKER_01
It s all good.
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SPEAKER_01
Maybe even noon.
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SPEAKER_00
Amazing.
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SPEAKER_01
Not going to shoot for 11.
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SPEAKER_01
And I can have a drink and like just enjoy myself.
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SPEAKER_01
But it s crazy because there s like eight after parties.
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SPEAKER_00
I was gonna say, this year I feel like conflicted because there s so many, so it s hard to tell what s the good one, what s the fun one, who s where.
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SPEAKER_00
We re just gonna have to be working the system.
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SPEAKER_01
Lots of group chats.
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SPEAKER_01
Lots of networking.
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SPEAKER_00
Lots of emails.
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SPEAKER_01
I know.
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SPEAKER_01
The thing that s interesting though is that I think when I went to my first
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SPEAKER_01
Met Gala party, I was expecting it to be first year, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh yeah, pajamas.
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SPEAKER_01
Yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_01
I was expecting it to be like a party I ve never experienced, the after party.
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SPEAKER_00
It s just a party.
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SPEAKER_01
But it s crazy how normal the Met party, well, the Met gala event is unlike anything I ve ever been to before.
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SPEAKER_01
I mean, ultimately, it is like celebrity prom, but it is still its own experience.
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SPEAKER_01
There s nothing remotely like it.
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SPEAKER_01
I mean, it is very unique in all ways.
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SPEAKER_01
However, the after parties totally just feel like a party.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, after party.
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SPEAKER_00
I feel like last year, no one went out, and it was kind of sad.
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SPEAKER_01
It was weird.
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SPEAKER_00
This year people are going out.
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SPEAKER_00
Definitely.
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SPEAKER_00
But I remember last year us like sitting in a corner being like, why is no one here?
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SPEAKER_01
Like no one s going out.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
I feel like this year we ll have a lot of good stories to report.
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SPEAKER_00
I think so too.
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SPEAKER_01
I m going to be buck wild.
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SPEAKER_01
Are you?
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SPEAKER_00
Are you going to dance hard and stuff?
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SPEAKER_00
I m trying to think if there are even ones with dancing.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
I remember that one that was like a basement.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, basement, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
I ll dance there.
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SPEAKER_00
It s like a big open room with no one dancing.
4
SPEAKER_01
Austin, our friends, we need to go and we need to have fun and we need to dance and just say, who cares?
4
SPEAKER_01
All of you guys are trying to be too cool for school.
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SPEAKER_01
I m done with this BS.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s cringe and I m gonna do the fucking Macarena if I have to.
4
SPEAKER_00
Please don t do that.
4
SPEAKER_00
Okay, too far?
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SPEAKER_00
I will leave you.
4
SPEAKER_01
Oh no, I just wanna do the Macarena, please.
4
SPEAKER_01
Oh yeah, my final story that s so funny, and then I m letting you go to your next, you have so much to do today, don t talk to me anymore.
4
SPEAKER_00
I m gonna just drop this.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, literally just leave and I ll just keep talking for two hours.
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SPEAKER_01
Not last year, but the year before I dyed my hair blonde, obviously I bleached my hair, and a photo of it got leaked or whatever, and we wanted to debut my blonde hair.
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SPEAKER_00
Can I be honest, I didn t know a photo got leaked.
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SPEAKER_00
No one told me.
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SPEAKER_01
a photo fully got leaked and it was I like it was so funny because my agent saw the photo.
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SPEAKER_01
and was like, oh my God, no, and started freaking out and wouldn t tell me what was wrong.
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SPEAKER_01
And I was like, girl, you gotta fucking tell me what s going on.
4
SPEAKER_01
And she s like, no.
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SPEAKER_01
And I was like, did my nudes leak?
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SPEAKER_01
I m like, I don t even take nudes.
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SPEAKER_01
What could it be?
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SPEAKER_01
Also, my boobs probably look great.
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SPEAKER_01
I bet they look great.
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SPEAKER_01
I was probably holding them properly.
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SPEAKER_01
It was probably good.
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SPEAKER_01
And I was like, I haven t taken a nude in a really long time.
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SPEAKER_01
I don t take bad nudes, so it s all good.
4
SPEAKER_01
I facetune my nudes, so it s fine.
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SPEAKER_01
That s Owen s joke.
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SPEAKER_01
Is it?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, Owen always jokes about facetuning his nudes.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t even know my own boyfriend.
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SPEAKER_01
I know.
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SPEAKER_01
I know.
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SPEAKER_00
But that sounds like him, so you should be apologetic.
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SPEAKER_00
I know.
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SPEAKER_00
I know.
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SPEAKER_01
Owen, I m sorry.
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SPEAKER_01
I stole your joke.
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SPEAKER_01
Honestly.
4
SPEAKER_00
It is a good joke.
4
SPEAKER_00
It s a great joke.
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SPEAKER_00
Facetuning nudes is funny.
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SPEAKER_01
No, I genuinely haven t taken a nude.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know the last time I ve taken a nude.
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SPEAKER_01
It s just like not happening these days.
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SPEAKER_00
Maybe in the coming future.
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SPEAKER_01
Maybe I ll take a nude.
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SPEAKER_01
Maybe I ll take one tonight.
4
SPEAKER_00
We could do that.
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SPEAKER_01
but it ll be like really gross.
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SPEAKER_01
And I ll like be, oh my God, I had this like one time my friend took a photo of me in the bathtub and I like had a bunch of back knee and I was like bent over and it was like so funny and it is sort of a nude but it s hideous.
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SPEAKER_01
I m into that vibe of a nude.
4
SPEAKER_01
I think that s funny.
4
SPEAKER_01
Repulsive nudes.
4
SPEAKER_01
Yes, yes, where it s like not trying to be hot.
4
SPEAKER_01
Okay, anyway, back to what I was saying.
4
SPEAKER_01
Basically, she s freaking out.
4
SPEAKER_01
She s like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
4
SPEAKER_01
And I was like, what is wrong?
4
SPEAKER_01
She s freaking me out.
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SPEAKER_01
my nudes are leaked and like something, like my cat died, like something happened.
4
SPEAKER_01
And she was like, your hair got leaked.
4
SPEAKER_01
Everyone can see it.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s like a photo with like, uh, I had gotten a massage done the day before and taken a picture with the girl who did it.
4
SPEAKER_01
Cause she s so awesome and whatever.
4
SPEAKER_01
And she posted it on her Instagram.
4
SPEAKER_01
And so now the blonde hair is out in the world and she was freaking out.
4
SPEAKER_01
She s like, Oh my God, are you upset?
4
SPEAKER_01
And I was like, not at all.
4
SPEAKER_01
Like this shit is not that serious.
4
SPEAKER_01
There is,
4
SPEAKER_01
We re so tunnel-visioned, and we re so zoomed in that it s such a big deal to us, but also, it s not that big of a deal.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s really, it s all just fun.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s all meant to be fun, and to raise money for the Metropolitan Museum, and that s really all it is.
4
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, that s it.
4
SPEAKER_01
And that s it.
4
SPEAKER_00
And it s not that serious.
4
SPEAKER_00
No, however, we take it extremely serious.
4
SPEAKER_00
We spend nine months of the year thinking about it.
4
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, actually 12.
4
SPEAKER_01
Well, it s honestly, it is a year round thought.
4
SPEAKER_01
Although then there s like, but after we have to wait till I get an invite again, because then it s just like you can t start planning unless you get invited.
4
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, it s embarrassing.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s embarrassing to do that.
4
SPEAKER_01
However, we do also that.
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SPEAKER_01
Jared, I can t wait.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s like so nerve wracking, actually, when I think about it.
4
SPEAKER_01
two days before, there s so much pressure.
4
SPEAKER_01
Like the pressure s building, building, building, building, building.
4
SPEAKER_01
So I m not like, I m not worried about anything.
4
SPEAKER_01
Everything s gonna be good.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s just pressure.
4
SPEAKER_01
But it s just pressure.
4
SPEAKER_01
You re just under pressure.
4
SPEAKER_01
But there s so much to be excited about.
4
SPEAKER_00
I m so excited.
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SPEAKER_01
And we re just gonna have fun.
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SPEAKER_01
We re gonna make it fun.
4
SPEAKER_00
It s gonna be good.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s gonna be great.
4
SPEAKER_00
It s gonna be good.
4
SPEAKER_01
Thank you for hanging out in your busy week, your busy met week.
4
SPEAKER_01
Are you kidding?
4
SPEAKER_01
You came to my hotel room and talked on the couch with me under a robe.
4
SPEAKER_00
Well, that was my I asked for the.
4
SPEAKER_00
Well, you re cold.
4
SPEAKER_00
And also, I wouldn t I wouldn t even be.
4
SPEAKER_00
There would be nothing else if you hadn t if you hadn t brought me on to do your first met.
4
SPEAKER_00
That is the only reason I m here.
4
SPEAKER_01
So, OK, well, let s relax with that because you re you slay and you re amazing at what you do.
4
SPEAKER_00
And so are you.
4
SPEAKER_01
OK, we ll stop.
4
SPEAKER_01
OK, so we re going to go cry and hold hands.
4
SPEAKER_01
We re going to go cry, hold hands and kiss.
4
SPEAKER_01
So we ll talk to you guys later.
4
SPEAKER_01
By the time that you all are listening to this, you ve seen you ve seen it all.
4
SPEAKER_01
It s all out on the Internet.
4
SPEAKER_00
So bad.
4
SPEAKER_01
I know.
4
SPEAKER_01
What if it s so it s hideous?
4
SPEAKER_01
You guys are like it could be.
4
SPEAKER_01
And it could be.
4
SPEAKER_01
So we ll see what you think.
4
SPEAKER_00
Touch base later.
4
SPEAKER_01
We ll touch base later.
4
SPEAKER_01
But we love you all.
4
SPEAKER_01
And thank you for listening.
4
SPEAKER_01
And thank you, Jared.
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SPEAKER_01
I love you.
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SPEAKER_01
And thank you for coming on.
4
SPEAKER_00
I love you more.
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SPEAKER_01
I think I love you more.
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SPEAKER_00
No.
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SPEAKER_01
OK.