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Zach s desperate for love.
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At Zach Zang Show on all social media platforms if interested.
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Hi beautiful human, I m Zach, that s Sam, and welcome to the studio back again.
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Huddy!
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So why are you in a healthier place today than before?
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A lot with life, a lot of growing up.
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I owe a lot of it to my girlfriend and just taking the time to, you know, rekindle myself and just grow from the past and like accepting things and then
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Not only that, but just getting back into what I know how to do best, which is just making music and writing stuff about my life.
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I think that s the best thing for me, is to just stay in that studio, spending time with friends, and just making sure that
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I m having real relationships in my life and real friendships and, um, you know, staying close to my family.
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I got a new puppy and that like changed my whole life.
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Puppies do add meaning.
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Yeah.
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I had one dog and it seemed like he was, um,
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little lonely and like always wanted to play and like now I have a second dog and so like up seven in the morning every day just what are we doing the dogs crying I m just like I would take her out and then like start a system of like all these things that you need to do to take care of two dogs instead of one it s a lot harder and it feels like I have children now you do yeah I really do they count on you mm-hmm
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So would you say that the past relationships that existed in your life were unhealthy, holding you back?
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How would you categorize them?
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No, I mean, all the relationships I ve had in my life have been what they were.
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But I think, like, with this relationship I am in now, I think I m just a stronger person.
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I feel like we take on life together.
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I mean, we live together.
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And making that decision was also a really great decision for me because I need someone in my life that I can combat life with.
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you know, be there for each other at all times and I think part of it s maturing but yeah, I had a lot of like
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I don t know just like feelings I kind of kept to myself for a long time, and I feel like very comfortable with Telling my girlfriend how I feel and we just like share so much of our life together So there s like no bullshit like all the bullshit s cut because you don t get to spend a second to yourself You know what I mean?
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when you live with someone you feel everything in a real way, and you have to talk through it and
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So I think it took for me to like take that step of moving in with my girlfriend for me to feel those things and like really You know because like if you were like say you were dating someone, but you weren t living with them You know when you spend time without them That s when you re starting to think to yourself about like all the issues going on with your life whereas like you re in it you re in it at all times when you live with the person and You can talk to them about it because you have nowhere else to run if anything I m going outside now like
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call my mom and I ll be upset about something, but then I go back inside and then I m like, fuck.
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So I feel that I really feel this way.
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And like, um, just really talking through things with her has helped me become a better person.
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You know, you really can t run from your feelings when you live with someone.
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No, not at all.
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And so you, you really think about them a lot more because I m just like an introvert in a, in a way that I keep everything bottled up and like held down.
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But now I feel like she just texted me right now.
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She sent me a picture of our dogs.
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Um, but yeah, man, it s just a, a really real relationship and I don t know, it s so authentic and just perfect, you know?
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How d you meet?
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We met on Halloween night and how I how I knew that it was perfect was because I was wearing a Beetlejuice costume and she still looked me in my eyes and said I remember when we met for 15 minutes like a few months ago and I
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Like I ve known I ve known it was you I knew there was a spark there, but I wanted to like see you again and like we really just chopped it up and and like how to spark on Halloween and now it s like in in the moment in that conversation with her and then I took a step back and I realized I was wearing a fucking Beetlejuice costume and I had green hair and moss on my face and stuff like that I m like and we re connecting right now and she knows what I look like underneath
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all of this and I m just it made me like feel like it was so surreal because I just realized how stupid I looked and like how how real she kept it with me just made me know that there was a real connection there.
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So you had met before Halloween night but then you remet on Halloween?
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Yeah, so we met for a few minutes when I had a 4th of July party and I was just being a dork.
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I was just showing her like my snakes in my room and just stuff like that because I had like a big one-story house and I like, I don t know, I always run away when I had parties and I would just go to my room and like
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hang out with my dog and stuff like that and like have like a few of my friends in the room and my best friend s ex-girlfriend is my girlfriend s best friend and she introduced us and she s the one that like really saw that there was a spark between us and
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Yeah, I owe her a lot for, you know, introducing us.
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Wild.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Would you say this is the first time you ve been in love?
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This is like, I think this is the first time I ve been in love, like for real, like been fully 100% and then no questions asked.
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What makes this relationship different than other relationships?
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I think just the authenticity of how well and organic that it worked out.
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I think we both gave each other that space.
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We didn t rush into anything.
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We both knew that there was something there and we wanted to make sure that we were
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Safeguarding our heart as we were getting to know each other we spent like six months just getting to know each other and just hanging out and like doing little things together and I think by building a relationship from the ground up before you like ask somebody like will you be my girlfriend was something that was really healthy for us and I think taking that time is what made all the difference in the world.
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How soon did you guys move in with each other?
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We moved in after about six months of dating.
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That s good.
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That s pretty fast though.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you were one day.
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I knew my boyfriend for like 86 days.
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You moved in with your boyfriend in one day?
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No, maybe six.
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Six days?
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Yeah.
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See, you know.
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Hey, move in with me girl.
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What s up?
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Yeah, so it took us a while but then I lived with a few of my roommates and then the next house I lived with one of my roommates and I hated the house and I wanted to move into a new place and We were already just so in it together.
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We were spending like at least six days of the week She s like, you know, I d have to go like home and see my family sometimes right?
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I m like
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yeah, like you can go do that like you whenever you want like okay, and then it ended up being a thing where I would go and see her family with her and I became friends with her dog and her sister lives next door with three kids and then The kids just really loved me and look up to me.
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And so she got to see how I was with other kids and then They became like huge fans of my music which is like all I could ask for and more like they re
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more hyped about my release than, like, anyone.
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It s actually so, like, cute to me because having that relationship with her niece and nephew is just everything and more to me.
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It s really special.
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Right?
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It s giving family.
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It is.
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She grew up in Manhattan Beach, has this really nice, sweet family, and they do everything together.
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And if there s something going on that they think that Kiara can make it out there for.
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Love makes its way into this music though, right?
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Always.
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I mean, obviously, outside of the fact that it s called Love Bites, but it s woven throughout the thing.
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Right.
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It s a completely woven throughout the whole EP.
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It s supposed to be what love is just told into four different like chapters of a relationship and giving you just some different insight and some different wordplay and some different, you know, sounds from me.
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I wanted to try new things and yeah, it took my time and I feel like I really accomplished that.
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What does it mean to take time?
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Like how long did these four songs take?
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These four songs took about seven months.
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I finished them last year, but doing the preparation work for putting out the EP took a really long time.
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And yeah, we felt like coming back at the beginning of the year is a really strong way to put your foot down.
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And so we were trying to kind of put it all together before the end of last year, but then that didn t make sense.
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So we kind of held onto it for a little bit longer.
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we re like yeah let s start in February and then kind of make our way and put it out in April and we ended up putting out the EP on my birthday so it s gonna be dropping in a week from today.
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Pretty cool.
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Pretty cool.
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How many songs do you cut before you get the four or did you just record four?
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I ve recorded so much music in the last couple of years.
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This is honestly and I love Lovebites.
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This is a warm-up.
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This is just me like getting the oven started and just showing people that there s a lot more to me than people realize that I
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don t like to stay in one place with music or in life.
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Like I want to make as much music as possible, try as many new things as possible, and just show people that there is different variations of Huddy. 
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Do you ever wonder what the public thinks of you or like what their perception is of you?
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Yeah, I do all the time because I have no fucking clue Like I can t tell if they love me if they hate me if they re like this guy s a little weird this guy dresses weird I have no clue and I never will like that the only thing I really get is like an honest in-person reaction because either I
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They laugh, or they like, are really genuinely freaked out.
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Like, they re like, holy shit, like, you re a real person?
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And it blows my mind.
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I m just interested in terms of like, you do fashion, you make rock music, and maybe there is no real public perception of you because you re kind of shaping it as you go, right?
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It s just more based on your aesthetic and the very... I mean, because you give people glimpses of your life, people know, but they don t fully know, you know?
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And the general population only is getting this more aesthetic idea of you, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I know I like to be pretty polished and I m also my biggest gatekeeper in a way that people should know all about me but I m also scared because of the shit that I have gone through like I spent years going and Trying to make people understand my personality and then I kind of got shamed for it You know people thought I was cringe or weird or this or that and then I mean I look back now and keep in mind
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I agree, like there s a lot of shit in there that I m like, holy fuck, I can t even believe I posted that.
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Like what?
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Anything from, anything before 2021, like anything I posted on TikTok, I like can t, I can t even look at.
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And people just repost it for fun, and I m like, oh my God.
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And when I see it across my 40 page, I m like, oh my God, I can t believe people saw this.
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Yeah, but without that, you probably wouldn t be where you are right now.
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Exactly, no, I know, like I ll,
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say I had to do it, you know, I had to be done to make it to where I am today, and I, you know, you have to look at it with a little bit of grace and be like, alright, you know, you did what you did, but that was also what it was at the time.
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And I just kind of evolved with the app and with myself and, like, tried to keep it a buck, but at the same time, people just don t know me on a deeper level, and I m not sure if that s me protecting myself too much, or if that s
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Just me not wanting to share my personality as much with everyone anymore, you know, I like to give people doses and you know, just make sure that I like just keep my heart safe and
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Feel like if you put too much of yourself out there like people have ridiculed me for my personality and and like I don t know so it s made me like More scared to do like talking videos or like going on live and stuff like that But yeah, I like to keep it short and sweet, but maybe there s something to that especially when you re releasing music you can speak to your music and
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Exactly.
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I think music s the best way that I can express myself and I really leave it all on the table when it comes to music and you can really tell my personality through it and you know
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Yeah, I think more people have to like see interviews like this to really understand me more because there s so much more to me than just the music and Yeah, no, I don t share too much so like I I really try to give it my all in that place in that place alone but it s also a place that you kind of I mean could you is it fair to say that your plan was always music or Did you really kind of fall into it by chance?
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I would say there s a little bit of both because when I lived in Stockton, music wasn t even a question because I never knew how to make it, I never knew how to have access to people that were producers or writers or anything to do with music in general.
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As I found my way into LA, I knew that I wanted to make music, I just didn t know how.
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And I always thought it was just like this foreign thing that you just couldn t get your hands on.
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I always thought it was something that... I don t even know how to put it, because there was just not many people in Northern California that made music.
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I didn t really know how to have access to it.
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And so, when I got to LA, I wanted to figure it out, and I wanted to find a way to make music
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because I knew I had it in me, I just never knew how to go through with the process.
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And when I started to figure out how I can have access to these people, I just went full force.
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And as soon as I did my first studio session, it was from one to like 30 sessions all within like two months.
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And yeah, I just hit the ground running as soon as I figured out how to make music, honestly.
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But it means something different today than before, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, there s so much more evolution in the music just over time I feel like I m growing into it and I m maturing and I m saying a lot more real things and I m going at more real topics and not that my first album wasn t real because it was very real to me but I think it s getting more and more real and I m seeing what I can do, how I can stretch my vocals, how I can
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I m trying to figure out a scream.
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I m trying to figure out how to hit the falsettos that I was afraid to do in the first album.
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You know, I m trying to do it all now.
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Real rock.
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Real rock.
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Confidence and comfort breeds all this, no?
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Yeah.
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No, and honestly, you can only, you can already like start to tell that it s getting more and more confident as we go.
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And yeah, there s just like something that
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just comes out of me when I work and when I sing in the studio because I ll be like kind of mumbling it as I m like in the room writing it and like they re like okay cool we don t know how this is gonna sound because I m just like afraid of singing in front of people but when I m in front of a mic and I get the chance to really listen to myself in the headphones I just I lock in I become a different person.
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Are you like recording and, like, are you looking at anything?
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Is it black?
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What are you, like, what s around?
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Because I know, like, people, like, will record in, like, total black, like, dark rooms.
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Oh, yes.
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I record in total darkness.
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I don t like there being light because I think it s too distracting.
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Yeah.
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And I just, like, I go in there, I bring a water, and I bring my phone, and I like it dark, though.
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Like, when it s too bright, you know, I like to close my eyes, too.
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Like...
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Just being able to just tap in with yourself and the only thing you can think about is what you are doing I think that s the best way to get it done because It s
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It s hard to not think about those things when you re in the moment making music.
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You have to really put some focus into it, otherwise you re not gonna get the product that you want.
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And so, yeah, it s true, I do make music in the dark.
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It s funny that you said that.
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It s really common, and it cuts that sentence.
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Really?
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It s a whole thing, yeah.
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Cool, I fuck with that.
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See, I m right there with you guys.
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It s working, it s working.
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It is.
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I know you re probably interested in this, but you are trying to master scream singing?
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Yeah, so I m trying to figure out how to scream a little bit more and more.
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The thing is is it s so tough to do live that I m making sure there s like special moments for it and everything and I ve been making more friends with like the heavier like punk artists just to try to like learn from them as well.
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I m
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really close with this band called Palais Royale and they re really good.
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We just made a song about like six months ago and it s the coolest song ever.
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I ve fucking made.
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It s just like straight, heavy, mysterious.
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The lyrics are fucking all over the place.
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And in that studio session, they taught me how to scream.
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And ever since then, I m just like, I love it.
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I want to try this.
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I want to try this on everything.
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And so I ve been trying it a little bit more.
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Not that it s like,
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So crazy, but it is fun, I will say.
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You just gotta send it.
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I remember Jaden told me when we were doing Downfalls High, he s just like, you just gotta scream.
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Just go in there and scream a couple times, see what happens.
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Is it hard to scream singing though?
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There s a difference between screaming and then like Corey Taylor screams, right?
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From Slipknot?
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He screams, like Oliver Sykes is like a real screamer from Bring Me The Horizon, like that takes talent.
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That s fucking talent.
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Yeah, I know, I know.
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He s brilliant.
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I love Bring Me The Horizon.
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Yeah, man, I just want to work with more and more rock artists because I think like just taking those little bits of learning stuff from them really goes a long way.
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Also, I can t say who but I just worked with my favorite artist and that man screams like nothing I ve ever heard before.
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It s fucking insane.
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Can you guess who?
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I m trying to think.
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You re trying to think?
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I don t know.
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Can you give us a clue?
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Can I give you a clue?
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Shit, I can t give you a clue without giving it away.
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He was really big in the 2010s and he s even bigger now.
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Man.
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And he screams.
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Like crazy.
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For me, he s the pop-punk hero.
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He is the fucking goat.
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I feel like when people are bailing out of pop-punk, you re sticking with it, eh?
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Yeah, I m trying to figure out more, how much more alternative I can make it, because I really want to make rock music at the end of the day.
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Stay consistent with it, because everybody s bailed on it.
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Look at everybody who thought they were pop-punk rock stars, and now, where the fuck are they?
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Making pop records or rap records or really?
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Yeah, yeah, I think there s such a heart to punk music and the stuff that you can say in it and like just the extensions that you can go because I m trying some new stuff in punk, but I ve been really trying to Make more rock music because I love the heavy shit.
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I love how slow and heavy it is at the same time and I
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There s just so much more you can do with a guitar and some drums.
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Without it, it s so much more tough.
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I ve made maybe two or three pop songs.
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Hate doing it.
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Hate doing it.
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But some of the songs on this EP do lean a little pop.
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They do.
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The song s structure could be pop, but the sonics could be punk rock or rock.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I think there s a pocket in pop music that I love to make, which is kind of like electronic dance rock pop, and that s what Lovebites is.
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Yeah, that reminded me of like Cobra Starship or something.
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I couldn t even, I tried so hard to think of something that it reminded me of, and I was like, fuck, it reminds me of nothing, and that s why I love it, because it stands out in such a unique way that I ve never written any song before, and I m trying to make more music like it.
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But it s such a crazy pocket of different things together.
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It s synths, it s like, there s a little bit of EDM in there.
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There s a little bit of rock in the straight beat.
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It s taken from old disco music.
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There s a little bit of like, the newer, kind of how they make disco pop nowadays in there as well.
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And then there s the lyrical twist on how I kind of turn every song.
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It s just, I like to add a little bit of like, my own like, swagger and edge to it.
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Are we talking about hickeys or like love bites?
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It s kind of a thing where it s almost a double entendre or a triple entendre where love bites in the way that love should be sweet but also intense, you know?
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And it s also in the sense where it s a hickey and it s also in the sense where love can bite you in the ass if you let it.
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and you know I think the intensity of just like the title itself really like brought me into it I was like love can bite you know love can really bite you but it can be in a good way too you know if someone leaves a hickey on you you ll remember that and if someone leaves a mark on you you ll remember that and if someone s
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Loving you with their full intensity and really giving you their all and leaving nothing out like nothing else I think that s something that really stands out in a relationship.
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You gotta give it your all you gotta pour your love into somebody and It can bite you in the ass.
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You know, there ll be tough days, but you re gonna have even better days
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SPEAKER_01
And on Lovebites, you said you can make her do what twice?
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Make her come twice.
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SPEAKER_01
Like make her come over to my house once or twice.
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Yeah, two times.
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Got it.
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Like writing lyrics like that cuz I feel like when your first album came out you would never put that in a lyric and oh No, no, I wouldn t I did a backflip when I wrote that lyric like an actual backflip No, but like in my head.
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I was doing backflips.
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I was like holy shit.
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I just wrote the craziest lyric that I could have possibly made and I
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After I made that song, I remember my team telling me, um, I really love the song, but I think you should change this lyric.
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And I said, that s it.
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That s the lyric right there.
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This is what s going to take people by surprise.
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Because they asked you to change it.
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That s how you knew.
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That s how I knew it was the one.
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Makes sense.
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SPEAKER_00
That s rock and roll.
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That is rock and roll.
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You ve got to be able to say one or two crazy things every once in a while.
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Otherwise, you re keeping it PG.
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It s true.
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You know, that s about maturing.
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You know, you keep it a buck with these people.
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And people respect you for it.
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Am I wrong?
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I mean, no.
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No, I mean, I listened to the song, and that s the line that stuck out to me.
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There you go.
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So thank God you kept it in.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I wanted to give people a little bit of that vulgar, honest edge because who am I to leave things out of a song that actually happened?
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Hell yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh man.
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SPEAKER_00
I have so many things to say.
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SPEAKER_00
I m sweating.
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SPEAKER_00
By the way, you can listen to the EP Lovebites.
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It s on Amazon Music.
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SPEAKER_00
We re going to put a link below for you.
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SPEAKER_00
It s nice to hang out with a fellow Taurus.
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SPEAKER_00
You give Taurus energy, eh?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I am as Taurus as they come, and I m also at Cancer Rising, so.
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SPEAKER_01
Oh, really?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, so there s that emotional side to me that s unavoidable, and then there s the Taurus energy in me that s very stubborn and likes to make sure I m getting things done and that I m competitive.
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SPEAKER_01
All of the, like, competitive nature that s in me and, like, the drive comes from being a Taurus.
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SPEAKER_00
It s crazy you re only 21.
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SPEAKER_01
I know.
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SPEAKER_00
I m 21.
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SPEAKER_00
That s so weird.
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SPEAKER_01
That s not weird.
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SPEAKER_01
I m 22 next week, okay?
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SPEAKER_01
I m getting older, guys.
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SPEAKER_01
You know, but turning 21 was a big turning page for me because I always wanted to be 21 and I never had the balls to get a fake ID.
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So I would go to clubs and I would just be like, yeah, I m 19, Anne.
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And it worked every time.
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SPEAKER_00
What?
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SPEAKER_00
Every time.
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I never got turned down.
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Only once when I was at my sister s college and I used my brother-in-law s ID.
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They re like, um, I m like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_01
You re right.
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SPEAKER_01
I m gonna go.
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SPEAKER_01
I m just going to walk away.
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SPEAKER_01
I m not going to fight this battle.
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SPEAKER_01
How old s your girlfriend?
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My girlfriend s 25.
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Got it.
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
She s a baller.
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She s just, she s got her head on her shoulders.
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She knows what she wants.
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She s lived life and she s a real honest trooper at the end of the day.
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Like she knows what she wants.
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She keeps it real with me and
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Like because of that I owe her so much because she teaches me a lot and she inspires me.
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She s just beautiful and every day like we ll be going to the gym and she s wearing a cool outfit.
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SPEAKER_01
We ll go to lunch and she switches the outfit again and I m like dude should I change?
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Like she s always on it.
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She s on 10 always and I love that so much about her and she s always like
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She s so quick with her friends too.
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She s always up-to-date on what s going on.
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SPEAKER_01
She s I don t know She s like ten steps ahead of everyone and and so for that I love her so much, you know And and when something happens, she ll be able to like have foresight over everything
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If someone wrongs her, she ll know.
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She ll be like, I noticed you did that thing.
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SPEAKER_00
I noticed this person did that thing when we went out last night.
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SPEAKER_00
I thought that was really weird.
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SPEAKER_00
And then two weeks later, you just find out that person s a terrible person online.
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SPEAKER_00
And you re like, what?
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SPEAKER_00
How do you call these things?
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SPEAKER_00
She s just really intuitive and smart.
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SPEAKER_00
And I learned so much from her through that.
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SPEAKER_00
You re in love.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
No, I m, I know her.
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SPEAKER_00
I can read her really well and she can read me really well.
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SPEAKER_00
I m in love, man.
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SPEAKER_02
That s amazing.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
Very special.
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SPEAKER_00
It s very special.
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SPEAKER_00
How was your love life, Zach?
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SPEAKER_02
It s pretty good.
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SPEAKER_00
It s pretty good.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
It s good.
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SPEAKER_02
It s good.
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SPEAKER_02
I mean, I m in love.
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SPEAKER_02
I m very similar.
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SPEAKER_02
I do very much understand what you re saying and I do understand like when you re talking about living with somebody and how you have to kind of merge lives and it s all woven into one.
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SPEAKER_02
And yeah, it s really interesting.
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SPEAKER_00
No, it really is.
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SPEAKER_00
You guys do anything fun?
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SPEAKER_00
You guys been to Disneyland together?
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
We ve gone to Paris together.
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SPEAKER_03
We re gonna go to London.
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SPEAKER_03
There you go.
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SPEAKER_03
You know, we went to Australia.
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SPEAKER_03
Oh, that s that s how you do it, man.
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SPEAKER_03
We go to New York sometimes.
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SPEAKER_03
We do things.
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SPEAKER_02
How long have you guys been together?
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SPEAKER_00
We ve been together for a year and three months.
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SPEAKER_00
That s sick.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
So we travel a lot together too.
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SPEAKER_00
Like we re just two peas in a pod, man.
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SPEAKER_02
Look at you.
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SPEAKER_02
Year and change.
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SPEAKER_02
That s good.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_02
I m at eight months, nine months.
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SPEAKER_02
Really?
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SPEAKER_02
It s not even a year yet?
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SPEAKER_02
No.
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SPEAKER_02
I guess not.
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SPEAKER_02
It just feels like a year because I talk about it all the time.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, feels like it s been 10 years.
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SPEAKER_02
Mugshot, the first record, why does it start with Mugshot?
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SPEAKER_02
Well, I guess it s the part, like she s realizing she s in love with this person in a mugshot.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, it s like, it kind of starts in chapter two of a relationship where she starts to realize that she s falling in love with this bad boy who s on the edge.
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SPEAKER_00
I think Love Bites is like the introduction of what the relationship is and it starts on night one and then
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SPEAKER_00
I guess Mugshot is really chapter two, but we wanted to come with it first because one, it s what people know from me.
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SPEAKER_00
It s pop punk, but it s also got a little bit of rock flair to it, so it s a little bit something new.
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SPEAKER_00
The solo is really cool, just like all around catchy song, but it really captured the idea that of like where the music was heading and the direction that it s going in.
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SPEAKER_00
I would say my album s a little bit more
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SPEAKER_00
about, um, I just said my album.
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SPEAKER_00
I didn t say that.
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SPEAKER_00
EP.
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SPEAKER_00
Oh, you have an album coming?
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SPEAKER_00
No, I don t.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t know what you re talking about.
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SPEAKER_00
Um, so I would say like the direction that my new music is going in is more mugshot.
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SPEAKER_00
Hmm.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
I didn t say that.
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SPEAKER_00
Don t listen to me guys.
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SPEAKER_02
Don t listen to him, but listen to his music.
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SPEAKER_02
It s waiting for you.
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SPEAKER_01
Amazon music.
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SPEAKER_01
What are you thinking?
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SPEAKER_01
Do you ever miss anything about the TikTok Hype House days?
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SPEAKER_00
No, not really at all.
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SPEAKER_00
I honestly think I treasure my peace more and I think there was probably something intense going on just about every day that Hype House was a thing.
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SPEAKER_00
Had really strong friendships with everybody.
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SPEAKER_00
It just seemed like we were all competing with each other in a sense and When I wanted to make music when I wanted to really step into that space and I needed them to be like my friends and supporting me the most when I Moved out of the hype house I didn t have them there for me and I
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SPEAKER_00
That really upset me, you know, it stuck with me.
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SPEAKER_00
They made it the whole joke of the reality show is how I m like leaving the hype house and becoming a musician and how it s this bad thing and I don t know it left a sour taste in my mouth that they were not in support of me switching my career paths but were in support of everyone else doing their own thing now, but when it was me that
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that they just didn t appreciate it.
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SPEAKER_00
And yeah, no, you can kind of tell that all the people that I had real friendships there with have just, it s just kind of grown apart because of me making that decision for myself.
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SPEAKER_02
But are any of them of any relevance or doing anything?
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SPEAKER_02
I have no idea.
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SPEAKER_02
It looks like a giant scam.
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SPEAKER_02
I know.
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SPEAKER_02
Did you make any money?
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SPEAKER_02
Zero.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, like it just looked like an older guy taking blatant advantage of a bunch of younger people who had looks and talent that he didn t have.
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SPEAKER_02
And like, it was weird.
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SPEAKER_02
The whole thing s fucking weird.
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SPEAKER_02
And the guy shows up on my feed from time to time going, I m selling my house!
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SPEAKER_02
Fuck you, man.
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SPEAKER_02
It s the same guy, right?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
And by the way, I think I ve been in the same room as that person, I think, but I...
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SPEAKER_02
Someone told me we- I may have met him one time, I- I m sure you ve met him out and about before.
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SPEAKER_01
Wh- Whatever.
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SPEAKER_01
Looks like a f- Like, it gives- Ugh, energy, you know?
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SPEAKER_01
I just can t believe there s still- There s a whole new cast of characters now.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
People are falling for it still?
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, I actually have no idea but I mean people did when they moved into the house they had like Vinny move in and Jacob Day and like they started bringing in new people and then people kept leaving.
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SPEAKER_00
But what was really weird is they moved from West Hollywood to buy a house in Moorpark an hour outside of LA and so I had to make a conscious decision when Everyone in my life was telling me fuck.
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SPEAKER_00
No don t move an hour away from LA.
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SPEAKER_00
You re making music now You have to be by the studio.
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SPEAKER_00
You re going every day.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, and so I was like okay Let me try to meet them halfway, so I moved to Encino and they were still upset about I m like dude I
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SPEAKER_00
I am 30 minutes now from you and 30 minutes from my studio.
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SPEAKER_00
That makes me happy.
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SPEAKER_00
But then after I moved in, they just were just salty that I was spending more time doing music than putting my time into making brand deals for the Hype House.
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SPEAKER_00
And they were just like, yeah, we ll cover your rent if you make four bang promos for us.
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SPEAKER_00
We said, fuck no.
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SPEAKER_00
And so we never did one, and obviously we would never.
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SPEAKER_00
Because at the end of the day, they weren t going to cover our rent.
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SPEAKER_00
They were going to save all the bank stuff and cover their rent.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, at the end of the day, they were just like, we re just going to put our money into what we already have going on with this house.
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SPEAKER_00
And I m like, they just made a crazy decision to drop all this money that they just started making on a house.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, it was a scam at the end of the day.
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SPEAKER_00
Like, we had the stuff in Target, we had Hype House merch in Target, didn t make a buck from that, didn t make a buck from the merch, and we each had our separate codes for, like, if you wanted to, like, support a certain creator, never made a buck from that.
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SPEAKER_00
Like, anything to do with Hype House, like, you could probably profit off of the videos that we made, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00
They get views.
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SPEAKER_00
Adsense here?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_02
Wait, so is Vinny and all of them still a part of it?
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SPEAKER_00
No, everyone s pretty much gone.
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SPEAKER_00
I don t, I haven t really seen much of it recently, but you know.
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SPEAKER_02
I just, I ve seen him on my page being like, I m still in my house.
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SPEAKER_02
This is my trillion dollar house.
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SPEAKER_02
That s, by the way, horrendously ugly.
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SPEAKER_02
Like, God, you either have such a small penis or like really, really, really, really bad childhood trauma.
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SPEAKER_02
So bad.
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SPEAKER_00
A little bit of both, you know.
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SPEAKER_01
So bad.
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SPEAKER_01
Everything you re saying is the same stuff Alex was saying when he was here a while ago.
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SPEAKER_00
No, we re her.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Okay.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
No, I mean, I love Alex right like at the end of the day when we see each other is fucking all good and dandy, you know, we Like still share ideas with each other still Talking the phone every now and then we still like when we see each other when we re out like we ll catch up and it s civil But I think I m friends with like maybe five people from the hype house Ryland storms Nick Austin
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SPEAKER_00
Alex, Cover, and yeah, that s about it.
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SPEAKER_00
That s four.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, that s about it.
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SPEAKER_02
Can you describe what it means to be a Dior brand ambassador?
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SPEAKER_02
I always see motherfuckers out there being an ambassador.
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SPEAKER_02
I don t know what the verb version of that is.
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SPEAKER_02
Embissing?
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SPEAKER_02
No, an ambassador.
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SPEAKER_00
An ambassador.
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SPEAKER_02
No, but like, what does an ambassador do?
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SPEAKER_02
There s like a verb of like- They ambass it.
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SPEAKER_00
You rep a brand and by being an ambassador, they give you a check they don t give anyone else.
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SPEAKER_00
A check?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you get cut a check.
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SPEAKER_00
Paperwork.
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SPEAKER_00
DocuSign.
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SPEAKER_00
you have like a list of deliverables whereas most people it s kind of like one-offs and like hey can you come to our show and there s a lot of lists there s a long list of the people you can t work with and I m fine with that because at the end of the day like I grew up Christian Dior was the coolest brand to me and always just knew how to get it done knew what was classic and I ve always thought it was sick and so now I m being able to work with
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SPEAKER_00
after a long time.
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SPEAKER_02
How long has it been?
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SPEAKER_02
Like, how long have you been an ambassador?
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SPEAKER_00
I ve been an ambassador for about four years this year.
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SPEAKER_02
Is it like a new deal every year?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
So it s a year-long contract and then it s a renegotiation.
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SPEAKER_02
Damn.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
So they fly you places, right?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Fly, suite, hotel, you know, nice flights.
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SPEAKER_02
Do they just send you clothes randomly?
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah, actually they send me stuff on random and then like if I m performing for something, we could ask them, like a birthday party next week, just like, hey, we have this going on.
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SPEAKER_00
You just kind of keep them up to date with what you re doing.
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SPEAKER_00
They ll come through.
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SPEAKER_02
Damn.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
Damn, for a year.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
Interesting.
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SPEAKER_00
It is cool.
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SPEAKER_02
Sketchers shape if you re looking for your next brand ambassador.
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SPEAKER_02
Give me a ring.
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SPEAKER_02
I m looking to get in shape I want them sketchers that you don t need to bend over to put them on you just slide right in I m pretty sure that s all of the sketchers There s a certain cut okay, and I like it s not fucking Chelsea boots Pretty simple those are intense I can t do that
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SPEAKER_00
What s come on?
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SPEAKER_01
You know you love some Chelsea boots the little black boot with the fucking shirt you have on Toughest thing ever yeah, yeah, probably give me like discomfort No, not Martin s are pretty comfortable if you get the right ones Doc Martens of those dogs you have to break in Doc s not the vegan ones Not the vegan ones.
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SPEAKER_01
I got vegan Doc s on right now.
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SPEAKER_01
They feel like slippers there you go, so I
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SPEAKER_02
Listen to Lovebites, there s an EP waiting for you, plus new music could be on the way after that, which is so exciting.
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SPEAKER_02
Really excited to watch you turn into a rock star.
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SPEAKER_02
Like the quest, the journey continues, you know?
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SPEAKER_00
The journey s always continuing.
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SPEAKER_00
It s always gonna be growing.
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SPEAKER_00
Fuck yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
I met your girlfriend one time.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
Do you remember, where were we?
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SPEAKER_00
You don t remember, you were fucked.
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SPEAKER_00
Måneskin.
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SPEAKER_02
Okay, just kidding.
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SPEAKER_02
You do remember.
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SPEAKER_02
I remember everything.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, that s pretty impressive, eh?
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SPEAKER_02
It s really good.
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SPEAKER_02
She had a good energy.
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SPEAKER_02
She was very protective of you.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
She s very protective.
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SPEAKER_02
She cares about you very much.
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SPEAKER_00
She does.
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SPEAKER_00
No, she loves me so much.
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SPEAKER_00
That s really special.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
I forgot that we did that, but now that you mentioned it, I was like... I think my boyfriend was there too.
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SPEAKER_02
You may have met my boyfriend.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah, no, I think I did.
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SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_00
Well, we were like both like running to get into the concert.
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SPEAKER_00
It was about to start.
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SPEAKER_02
We were like, oh my god, hi, how s it going?
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SPEAKER_02
She s a good egg.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02
Healthy.
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SPEAKER_00
Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02
I m really happy for you, man.
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SPEAKER_00
Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00
Thank you so much.
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SPEAKER_00
I mean, dude, she has me jumping up at nine in the morning, going on hikes and going to the gym with her.
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SPEAKER_00
We went on a hike this morning.
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SPEAKER_00
Hell yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00
I like that.
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SPEAKER_00
Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01
House is wealth.
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SPEAKER_01
Good.
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SPEAKER_01
You like it?
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SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I love when people get up early and do something.
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SPEAKER_01
That s what I do.
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SPEAKER_02
You gotta find a girl that does that with you.
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SPEAKER_01
Or a dog.
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SPEAKER_01
Or a dog.
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SPEAKER_02
Hey, if anyone s looking to adopt a dog, let me know.
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SPEAKER_02
I have three that I m fostering.
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SPEAKER_01
Just DM me.
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SPEAKER_01
I ve always wondered this for people who get a lot of tattoos when they re young.
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SPEAKER_00
Do you still like them all?
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SPEAKER_00
I love all of my tattoos.
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SPEAKER_00
They embody me.
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SPEAKER_00
And I will say that until I m in the grave.
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SPEAKER_02
Because you can t really do anything about them or because you really mean it?
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SPEAKER_02
Oh, I totally 100% mean it.
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Yeah, I have the rest of my body planned out, and I m waiting for the right moment for each one.
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I have the rest of the sleeve planned out, the rest of my chest, my back, my legs, everything.
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I know what I m gonna do, but I think it s always a matter of time, because I rushed.
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When I did these, I knew exactly what I wanted,
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But I feel like I went and did it all within a year.
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And when people get a new tattoo, you have to let it be its own thing, you know?
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I get a new tattoo, and then I get a new one the next week.
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But now I have been taking my time.
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I haven t gotten a tattoo in a year.
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But I ve been dying to get back in, because I have a chest piece that I want.
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And then when the times right and when I m you know Going on a six-month bender of just going to the gym every day I want to get a big chest piece right here.
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Do you consult your girlfriend before you do these things or on your design?
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I mean I I talked to her about it, but
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No one can change my mind.
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Like, I know exactly what I want for, like, the tattoos on my body, and they re all sick.
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So I m a big guy when it comes to my theme.
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It s kind of like a Renaissance theme.
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And it s got a little bit of, like, sticker tats, but it s also just, like, all this is old, medieval, like, this is a dagger.
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And then, I forget what this is called.
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Yeah, I got I got a few weapons on here Bunch of shit I got a castle yes a graveyard really pretty Thank you, and then on this arm.
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I got this is my most recent one.
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I got a Tim Burton tattoo.
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That s cool Damn, what s next?
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What s next?
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I m getting a vampire playing a harp cool.
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Yeah, and he s got like a huge cloak on It s the coolest shit ever
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Are you the vampire?
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Yes.
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21st century.
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21st century.
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21st century vampire.
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Come on now.
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Got it.
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It s weird, like I was watching your smile, like you give the vampire a little bit.
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I have fangs.
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Are they real or like?
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No, I mean they re just my teeth, yeah.
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Yeah, it s not like I sharpened them or anything.
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Actually, it might be a little bit of like chewing on my other teeth.
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I just got like anxious and I bite down.
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Oh, interesting.
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Yeah, so that might be how it s developed.
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But yeah, I ve always had like sharp teeth.
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I don t know why.
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Damn.
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I think it s anxiety.
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Now you know.
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Now you know it is anxiety, 100%.
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Yeah.
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Well, it works for you.
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It s built a whole aesthetic, a whole brand.
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Yeah, I know it has.
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We ll become a tattoo.
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I know.
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And part of that s thanks to like Lil Tracy, Lil Peep too, because I used to love them when I was a kid and still do.
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I m friends with Tracy right now and I just really, I really loved the goth like vampire aesthetic.
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It s always like stood out to me and what I ve always wanted to be like a tattoo theme of mine.
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It s sick.
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Thank you.
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God, I wish I can get tattoos.
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You can.
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You know it s possible, right?
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Yeah, I d just be making mistakes.
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My mom told me is if you think about it for six months, then you can get it and I didn t listen to her the first time but after 20 tattoos now I listen to her so Barely even alive for 20 years 21 about to be 22 Listen love bites.
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There s a link below you good.
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My last comment is Headlock from your first albums really good song
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Oh my god, thank you.
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I went back and listened to that album this morning, and Headlock s really good.
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Thank you so much.
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Headlock was the one that I did as an intro song when I went out on stage.
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And it s not like, it s not like the biggest song ever, but it s, dude, it s such a sick vibe.
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It s got a great pocket that lives in and it s also a great intro song.
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But yeah.
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Respect.
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And approved.
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I just thought it was great.
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Yeah.
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He was wondering.
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Yeah, I know he was.
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Yeah.
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Thanks for being here, man.
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Yeah, no problem.
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Thank you guys for having me.
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Thanks for repping the Lovebites shirt.
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Yeah, duh.
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Come back, though, for the album.
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We re always here.
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Oh, yeah.
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The album.
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The album.
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The album.
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No album.
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No album.
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Listen to the EP, though.
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It s on Amazon Music.
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Huddie, everybody.
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Listen to the intro to the album now.
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Thank you, Huddie.
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It s the Zach Sang Show.