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Sunday, 29 November 2015

My Allotment

I did something for the first time this week, I went to a meeting of my allotment association. It wasn't just any old meeting though. It was an EGM to discuss accepting the terms of new leases for both allotment sites in the town where I live and to also vote on the association changing its constitution so we could self manage the sites.
Important stuff.
It's been a long process to get this far; over four years in fact. The other site in the town is relatively straightforward, although it still took numerous draft leases before the association committee received one that they felt was good enough to accept the terms of.
My site however is a different kettle of fish.
Apparently my site has been an allotment site for over 100 years yet despite this it hasn't been designated what is known as 'statutory allotment land'. When a site is designated as such, it has additional protection under the Allotments Act of 1925. Section 8 of the act states that local authorities cannot dispose of allotment land without the Secretary of State's consent.
And why hasn't my site been designated as statutory allotment land? Because the actual land is owned by the county council. County councils cannot be allotment authorities so they can't lease it directly to us. Only district or local authorities can be allotment authorities. And so the county council lease the land to the district council who then rent the plots to the tenants of each plot.
A simple solution would be for the county council to sell the land to the district council so we could then become a statutory site. But they refuse to do this.
Currently, when our tenancy agreements are up for renewal on 1 April each year, the district council could just say they won't be renewing them i.e. we have no protection at all. The new 25 year lease will give us 12 months notice that they wish to evict us and while this is far from ideal, it is more protection from what we have now. So that is why I voted to accept the new leases.
The extra complication and perhaps why it was better to accept a slightly more protected position, is the councils are currently still in discussion about the local plan for the town. Supposedly they need to build nearly 3,500 homes in my little market town which has a current population of around 10,000 people. And guess what? My site, which is bordered by farmland on two sides and roads on the others (one an A road) is one of the areas that will possibly be allocated for everything may all change in 18 months time.
Self management will hopefully put us in a stronger position should we have a fight on our hands, as well as bring our extortionate rents down in a few years time.
I guess only time will tell.

Friday, 6 November 2015

Job Perks

When you're self employed and also work freelance, there aren't too many perks that get offered to you, apart from the perk of working when you want to of course.

Although saying that, quite a few invitations and offers do arrive in my inbox at the magazine.  But I think, being the type of person that I am, I don't usually take them up.

I have, however, taken up two invitations/offers this year and I'm glad that I did. The first was an invitation to attend a little get together for a designer called Kaffe Fassett as he celebrated 50 years of working in the textile industry; first as a knitwear and tapestry designer and latterly as a fabric designer. The event was being held at the Gardens of the Rose not far from me so this was my main reason for finally saying yes to an invitation.

The gardens are wonderful. Sadly the event was being held just before the roses were out in all their glory, but there was plenty of colour and inspiration to behold still.

And the colours of Kaffe's quilts...

And then there are the offers. An press release email popped into my inbox a couple of weeks ago. I read it briefly as I usually do and then moved on to the next one. I returned to the email a couple of days later and reread it. It was from a PR company asking if they could send me a new iron from Phillips. The iron was so great, they said, I'd love ironing!

I ummed and ahhed and finally decided to accept their offer. It was only then I looked at the spec of's RRP is more than £300! I'm currently using a basic iron I bought from Tesco for a fiver...!

The iron arrived this week. It's huge. I've had a little play and I have to say I think I might learn to like ironing after all....

Cat for scale

Monday, 26 October 2015

Sweet Potato Harvest 2015

Earlier in the year I wrote a post about growing sweet potato slips yourself from tubers. It was a successful experiment and I managed to grow over a dozen slips for myself from tubers I grew last year as well as send some to a friend on twitter. She sent me four slips of different sweet potato varieties in exchange.

I planted out my first Beauregard slips in the first week of May, having assumed the risk of frost had passed. They were planted in open ground on my allotment.

I was wrong.

We had a patchy air frost the first week of June which obviously set the plants back a bit. I did think I was going to lose the plants for a time, but thankfully they survived.

At the end of June I planted out my remaining Beauregard slips together with an evangeline plant. The Murasaki, Bonita and burgundy slips were planted out in the first week of July. All were planted in open ground on my allotment.

It's been a difficult growing year this year, with that late frost setting things back plus it was never particularly warm apart from one short period. So I had a feeling this year's sweet potato harvest wasn't going to be the best. As late summer turned to early autumn, it was clear the plants were still behind schedule so I covered them with plastic to make a polytunnel of sorts to give them a bit of warmth for longer

Today, I dug the plants up. It wasn't good, but also not a complete disaster as I think I have tubers of each variety that I can use to grow next year's slips, hopefully!

So here goes....

Beauregard. The first plants yielded a few decent sized tubers but only about a kilo in total.

The ones I planted a bit later were all skinny

The remaining plants from my twitter friend had come from Suttons Seeds but as they were delivered late, I think they had little chance of success

And finally Burgundy which was a failure

But look what I also dug up, a tuber that was already regrowing!

So what did I learn this year?

For starters they need their long growing season and they need warmth if the summer isn't a scorcher like last year. So I think next year I'll cover them early on. Covering them will also protect them from a rogue late frost!

But as I said earlier, all is not lost as I'll try and grow slips from each variety. Even that tiny Burgurndy one, assuming it survives the winter!

Here's to the 2016 growing season!

Sunday, 18 October 2015

Accidental Blog Silence

Oh dear! Somehow it's been a few months since I've written a blog post again! I'm not sure how it keeps happening. I keep meaning to write about the allotment or my quilting but just don't seem to get around to it. Sometimes, when I think I'll write something, but then what I want to write seems too long and so the post gets put on the back burner again, supposedly because I don't have the time.

So a New Years resolution of sorts (after all it's only mid October) but I'll try (again) to post more often....little and often; just a little update of what I've created both on the plot and in my sewing room possibly each week, although deciding to do this just before a busy couple of weeks might not be the best timing.....

The weather is definitely autumnal now so work on the allotment is mainly digging and clearing ground for the winter. Last weekend I went to an Apple Day at Tewin Orchard near Welwyn Garden City. Here's my purchases from the day

Conference pears for poaching, Monarch and Catshead cooking apples for some crumbles and Adam's Pearmain dessert apples.

My sewing this week has been some square in a square blocks using some Nature Trail fabrics from Dashwood Studio. It's supposed to be a quick little quilt to help sell the fabrics.

I'm foundation piecing the blocks but they are being really frustrating to piece as the fabrics keep moving as I'm stitching. I like to use freezer paper for my foundation piecing these days so I can iron the pieces once I've stitched them. Hey ho. I'll keep on with it

My baking week included this creamy apple tart made using apples from Tom's new apple tree. It was quite tasty and a bit like a patisserie

Until next week....hopefully!

Sunday, 5 July 2015

A Baby Quilt for a Baby Bee

About halfway through our Little Blogs Quilt Bee (LBQB) our queen bee, Lou, who brought us all together announced that she was having a baby. This was all very exciting as it meant we could launch a bit of secret sewing!

A look through Lou's Instagram feed found that her favourite colours were pink, teal and grey which worked for not knowing whether she was having a boy or girl. A few secret discussions later and we agreed on a star type block 54-40 or Flight

We each made a block before I joined them together and sent it off to Gina to work her quilting magic.

We were so pleased with the result, but nearly got caught out as her little bundle of joy arrived five weeks early!

Congratulations Lou! It was a fun project to make and a fitting end to the bee

Monday, 1 June 2015

The UK Low Volume Plus Swap!

If you follow me on Instagram, you might have seen my callout for interest in doing a block swap.

It seems there is a bit of interest so let's do it!
The original #lowvolumeplusswap was run by Lindsay Conner in the States. It was open to US citizens only and she is currently sorting the blocks for all the recipients. She has quite a few to sort!
The block is quite simple and quick to make. You can find a tutorial on Lindsay's website here. Please ignore other information on Lindsay's page such as the sign up link and the number of blocks to make. All the information you need for the UK swap is here.
The Plus block
The block is 11 3/4" square unfinished and uses charm squares for the corners, although this isn't a necessity. The background should be made of scrappy low volume prints, although a few white, cream or grey solids are fine. Make sure that the background and the plus fabrics have a different value when you lay them out.
The plus should be ONE bright, single-colour print. You can use colours of the rainbow, including dark neutrals like blacks, dark greys and browns for each block. Make your blocks all different colours or all the same; the choice is yours!
All fabrics should be quilt-shop quality fabrics  e.g. Robert Kaufman, Moda, FreeSpirit, AGF, Benartex. The main thing in a swap is to remember to give as you would receive!
I'm going to suggest we each make a maximum of 12 blocks to start with. Lindsay has over a 1000 blocks to share out which seems a bit of a logistical nightmare to me! She has suggested on her page how many blocks you need to make various size quilts and has also posted some finished quilts as inspiration.
How the swap works
1. However many blocks you make and send to me is the number of blocks you will receive in exchange.
2. Blocks must come from a smoke-free home.
3. I will email you my address once you have signed up. Signing up to the swap is not a commitment to providing the number of blocks you have indicated. It just gives me an idea of who is taking part and the number of blocks I'm likely to need to sort.
4. When you have made your blocks, send them to me. Remember to enclose a stamped addressed envelope with your blocks so that I can send you your swap blocks in return.
5. When sending your blocks, please include a note with your name, address and email address so I know who they have come from AND the number of blocks you have sent.
6. I'll share blocks at random after the closing date.
7. The swap is restricted to quilters with UK addresses only.
8. The closing date for sending your blocks is 31 August 2015. This means you can make one block a week which makes it a bit less daunting.
Here's a BIG tip!
Use the same size envelope and same postage you use to send your blocks to me for your return parcel as guess what.....I'll need to use the same size envelope and postage to send you your swap blocks! If you don't put enough stamps on or a large enough envelope, it will be you that has to pay the excess postage charge or have blocks squeezed into a small envelope!
Ok, nagging bit over......
Still interested?
Don't forget to hashtag your blocks #UKlowvolumeplusswap on Instagram and share the swap with your friends. The more people involved......the more variety of blocks to swap!
Let's have some fun!

Sunday, 3 May 2015

The Sweet Potato Queen

This is a bit of a tongue in cheek title I have acquired on twitter as a few friends have followed my attempts to grow my own slips from sweet potatoes.

Whilst they are called potatoes, sweet potatoes are from a different plant family than your regular spud; the ipomoea family. They have a vine like quality that spreads over the ground while the roots form long tubers below the surface. And as they are from a different family, you don't grow them from a seed potato but rather from slips. Slips are new plants that are grown from a tuber

However, experiments with friends have shown you can't use just any old tuber as many commercial tubers have been treated with a chemical called budnip which prevents any growth from sprouting on them.

I grew sweet potatoes last year from some slips I bought from Marshalls Seeds and had a reasonable harvest from five plants; and they were delicious! Mellow, smooth and sweet to the taste.

Having watched some videos on YouTube, at the end of January I placed a couple of my homegrown tubers into two jars of water

A couple of weeks later the first few signs of growth sprouting

And gradually more and more growth, mainly shots but also a few roots

When the growth is ideally about 6" long you simply break off the slip

Placing the slip in water again encourages root growth

The slips then need to be potted up before being planted out after the risk of frost has passed

It will be interesting to see what kind of harvest I get from these homegrown slips. It's certainly been satisfying growing my own as they are expensive to buy online at approx £10 for five slips. I probably grew about 18 slips from those two tubers but what was noticeable was the slips were gradually smaller and less strong, so maybe a note to myself in the future to take a maximum of four or five slips per tuber.

I'll hopefully be planting my slips out on the allotment in the next couple of weeks and will post an update later in the year.

Saturday, 7 February 2015

My Musings on The Big Allotment Challenge

So the second series of The Big Allotment Challenge has just ended on bbc2 and I enjoyed watching very much.

I enjoyed watching the first series too.

It's a TV programme. It's a competition. Yet people are still moaning about the grow challenge being about growing perfect veg. Yet if you belong to any horticultural society or exhibit vegetables at a village show, that's the sort of thing you are expected to enter and the veg has to satisfy all the entry requirements to be in with a chance of winning.

Yes all of us who grow vegetables are growing them for the taste and so we know exactly what has gone into producing that parsnip or whatever. We don't care what they look like. Nothing beats homegrown.

But are you telling me you don't get excited or a certain amount of pride when you dig up a perfectly straight carrot or grow a massive cabbage?

I like that the TV company listened to comments after the first series. There was more factual information about growing each vegetable or flower and I think I preferred the one gardener per plot format.
I'm gradually getting converted to growing more flowers and already know I want to make a Christmas wreath for my front door this year.
The eat challenges were a bit more inventive in the latest series too, which is great as was using the veg or fruit that they had grown.

I've heard on the grapevine (twitter) that a third series hasn't been commissioned which is a real shame when you think how much crap there is on television these days. Surely a programme that promotes growing your own and preserving and healthier living and exercising as a result, is something that should be welcomed with open arms? People say it's a poor imitation of the Great British Bake Off, but how many series did that take before it became the massive success it is today?

I really hope the beeb reconsider.

And finally I'm delighted to see that my fave Rob won, and feeling smug that we followed each other on twitter before he became famous! Well done that man!

Saturday, 17 January 2015

A Year in Review - the Year of the Bee!

I've been so busy this month I've just remembered I didn't do a review of my quilting year! To be honest, there isn't a huge amount to report on and I mentioned a lot of what I have been up to quilting-wise in my Around the World Blog Hop post a couple of months ago.
2014 was definitely the Year of the Bee for me where I dipped my toes into the online world of the virtual quilt bee. The first bee I joined was the Little Blogs Quilt Bee. I blogged about it here last year. We are almost at the end of this bee now with just one more queen bee in February but we hope to keep some joint quilting efforts going in some shape or form.
The second bee I joined was the Modern Instabee on Instagram. This has been a fun bee too making blocks for each other from the book Modern Bee by Lindsey Conner. I am queen bee in March so looking forward to receiving my blocks then!
My recent quilting has been to make a quick Plus Quilt for the designer of my magazine who left to have a baby
And I finally found a bit of time to join my #LBQB blocks together. Looking forward to quilting this soon!
So I think that's probably about it quilting-wise for 2014. I've already got lots of ideas bubbling around my head for quilts I want to make this year, including getting back to my City Sampler quilt.
Let's see how I get on!


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Review: White Trash Zombie Gone Wild (White Trash Zombie #5) by Diana Rowland

White Trash Zombie Gone Wild - Diana Rowland

Angel Crawford has buried her loser past and is cruising along in undead high gear--that is, until a murder-by-decapitation sends her on a hazardous detour. As Angel hunts for the killer, she uncovers a scheme that would expose zombies to the public and destroy the life she's built, and she's determined not to rest until she finds out who's behind it.

Soon she's neck-deep in lies, redneck intrigue, zombie hunters, and rot-sniffing cadaver dogs. It's up to her to unravel the truth and snuff out the conspiracy before the existence of zombies makes headline news and she's outed as a monster.

But Angel hasn't quite escaped the pill-popping ghosts of her past--not with an illicit zombie pharmaceutical at her fingertips. Good thing she's absolutely sure she can handle the drug's unpredictable side effects and still take down the bad guys...or maybe she's only one bad choice away from being dead meat--for real this time.

Angel knows a thing or two about kicking ass, but now the ass she needs to kick might be her own

At the end of last book I was really worried about Angel as she found a new way to get high now as a zombie. And we are dealing with that a big part of this book. But I admit I really enjoy that we are not getting the “prefect” character with this series and especially this book. Angel not only has to deal with her new addiction but also gets outed. So she has plenty of stuff thrown at her in this book. She gains some unlikely and new allies in this book. Which I really enjoyed. I also liked that we got less of the whole SaberTech stuff and more of Angle and her daily life or more of her chaos would be more fitting. I absolutely love this series because Angel is one of my all-time favorite character arcs. It is slow and gradually, has its up and downs and overall is very realistic and easy to relate to . The same goes with any and all relationships in this series. Friendships and romantic. Which by the way we don’t get much in this book. But I think something has been brewing in that department for a while and we will get to … hopefully soon. Anyway. I love the way they build up relationships and works through issues. Like her and her dad, I used to hate her dad and he has done some pretty nasty things but I really think, he is next to Angel a rising star of the series. I absolutely loved him in this book. Thinking back to book one I would have never thought that happening. We have some nice surprises and twist in this book that I honestly didn’t see coming. Some spots of the book were a little slow but overall I really loved this book and Angle’s adventurers and I’m really looking forward to the next book in the series.

I rate it 4 ★

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Diana Rowland has lived her entire life below the Mason-Dixon line, uses "y'all" for second-person-plural, and otherwise has no southern accent (in her opinion.) She attended college at Georgia Tech where she earned a BS in Applied Mathematics, and after graduation forgot everything about higher math as quickly as possible.

She has worked as a bartender, a blackjack dealer, a pit boss, a street cop, a detective, a computer forensics specialist, a crime scene investigator, and a morgue assistant, which means that she's seen plenty of weird crap. She won the marksmanship award in her Police Academy class, has a black belt in Hapkido, has handled numerous dead bodies in various states of decomposition, and can't rollerblade to save her life.

She presently lives in south Louisiana where she's deeply grateful for the existence of air conditioning.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014

Primitive and New Cookie Cutters.

  Cookie cutters can be very versatile.  Beside the baking of yummy cookies, they can be used in crafty ways. You can use either old or new ones. I like this "chandelier", what a great focal point this would make.  Making shapes for cutting watermelon or pancakes. Just displaying them in a primitive wooden bowl.  Or making swags & ornaments out of them. They can also be used as napkin holders.  I can't wait to bake cookies with my children during the holidays.

Tuesday, June 17, 2014

Vintage Chic Using A Soft Color Palette

I like to say that my style is "vintage chic".  It is not hard to decorate this way. But, first you have to accept the notion that your decor does not have to match.  Things don't have to be new. One of the most important things is choosing what you like.

When you are deciding on a palette of colors that you want for your "vintage chic" design,  choose soft colors. Light blue, white, cream, soft pinks, and greens. Floral designs are a great way to add colors. Adding different textures such as quilts or lace tablecloth's. Just as in "cottage chic" roses and peonies are a must.

Monday, June 16, 2014

Vintage Luggage

I love the look of vintage leather. The smell and feel of worn out pieces of luggage. I can only dream of the places they have been. Paris, Rome, Egypt,  or maybe even Alaska.

Sunday, June 15, 2014

Shabby Chic and Flea Markets

Fleas Markets have always fascinated me. You can find treasures from days gone by to more recent times. One thing I have learned is "if you can afford it now, you should buy it. Because it probably won't be there again."

Walking around flea markets is a wonderful way to pass the day. The amazing things that can peak your interest is infinite.

Everything from vintage dresses.

To quilts, fabric and sewing accessories.

Finding those needful items that you can use for decorating.

The cozy feel of an antique store as you walk through the door. Nostalgic  feelings abound and a peaceful feeling settles in your soul.

Wednesday, June 11, 2014

Vintage Black Satin Prom Dress

 Vintage prom dresses are making a big come back. They bring a nostalgic feeling that gives a generation of young men and women a connection with their parents. Or it can just be a fun thing to do. Check out this black satin dress with big silver and black bow. Donna Summer would be proud.
So you Can Dance The Night Away.

Waiting for that special someone to call.

Thursday, June 5, 2014

Vintage Linen At It's Best

If you love vintage linens and doilies, but not sure how to display them. You will love this blog. It gives great ideas and methods on how you may use these linens and create a masterpiece that you can give as gifts or hang them in your own home. Enjoy.


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Forrest Fenn’s Poem Line: Put in Below the Home of Brown

Put in below the home of Brown.  That’s the sentence in the poem which seems to be one of the major keys for the finding of Forrest Fenn’s hidden treasure.  It’s the eighth line in the poem:

As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,
And hint of riches new and old.

Begin it where warm waters halt
And take it in the canyon down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown.

‘Put in’ could suggest the 1150 AD bronze chest, filled with over a million dollars worth of gold and jewels, was ‘put in’ ‘something.’  That instead of this poem line referring to the searcher, it is referring to the chest.  Many feel it is possible the treasure is concealed in a cave, stone crevice, or old mine.  It was ‘put in’ there (below the home of Brown (where you may be standing at this point?).

Assumingly, some feel it could also mean ‘put in’ a stream or creek.  For those who haven’t seen the latest Gadi Schwartz video, this seems to be what Gadi and Dal were thinking.  They are shown looking in a stream.  Or maybe they just liked the line on page 4 of the book which said, “My church is in the mountains and along the river bottoms where dreams and fantasies alike go to play.”  The dreams of finding the treasure are ‘in the mountains and along the ‘river bottoms’?

The term ‘put in’ can also imply a few other meanings. However, wherever the chest rests, the person who eventually discovers it will have also unearthed the meaning to ‘home of Brown.’

There is an interesting point to bring up here.  A few people are aware of the fur trapper Joe Meek and are following leads about him for the subsequent line of the poem, “From there it’s no place for the meek,…”

If meek refers to Joe Meek, and Brown refers to a proper name which needs capped (like Meek), then why didn’t Forrest capitalize meek?  Too obvious?  Or is Joe Meek proven wrong because Forrest doesn’t capitalize it?

I find it hard to decide.  I like the Joe Meek line of thinking, but it would seem ‘questionable’, because it isn’t capped, like Brown is; If Brown is capped for that reason?  I suppose this is one of the riddles.  Obviously, by capping Brown, Forrest is drawing attention to its importance, but why?  Does it refer to a proper name, place, or thing?

Thinking on that always gets me sidetracked, because since I can’t decide, I go back to the ‘put in’ and the fact Forrest could have put the treasure in a stream.  I don’t like thinking that!  But it does seem like a perfect place to hide a treasure, so that no one is going to just happen to come across it (unless you are looking for crayfish, which I actually do like to do with the kids..(wouldn’t the finding of a chest of gold instead of a crayfish be a surprise)!).

Plus, on page 137 of the book, Forrest mentions, “Bronze is a non-ferrous metal, meaning it won’t rust or deteriorate in any way.”  Now he was talking about the making and hiding of his bronze bells, but the chest is bronze, as well.

The thought of it being in a stream, even though I imagine a small one; one which ‘there’ll be no paddle up your creek’ because it is too shallow, has me looking for a good pair of waterproof boots.  Any suggestions? Lol…

Could the possibility it is hidden in a stream, also be a meaning behind, “Your effort will be worth the cold?”  To be searching in a stream certainly would get a bit cold after awhile.  But if you found the treasure, it would be worth it.  And to back up just a bit to the Meek line of ‘From there it’s no place for the meek.’  Psalms 37:11 says, ‘the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace.’  However, the poem line says it is no place for the meek.  Could this imply ‘it is in the water?’ (not the land in which the meek will gain title)

There is one other thing about this ‘put in’ a stream possibility.  Although I would like to think ‘it’s not in a stream’, (for I don’t know why)…. I read the following sentence in a book Forrest mentioned in The Thrill of the Chase.  It is:

“To be suddenly connected through a rainbow arc of rod and run of line to something as purely wild as God’s own trout produces astonishment at the cellular level and, at least for a moment, blurs the border between man and nature.  It is a bond which renews itself time after time and is the addictive essence of the sport.”

Right before the poem, we all know it says, “So I wrote a poem containing nine clues that if followed precisely, will lead to the end of my rainbow and the treasure.”

Forrest loves to fish, if his ‘rainbow’ is that of the rod and line (like the above passage relates), at the end of his rainbow… a stream…..could be the treasure.

Darn, we might get wet fishing for gold!  Of course, it still might be in a nice, dry, warm, place on land.  Who knows?  Only Forrest.

Best of luck to all…..

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Another possible interpretation for the line of ‘put in below the home of Brown’.

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  1. Stephanie says:

    I think the original thought is that it’s under water. Once you’ve thought about it a while though, you start to realize water high can mean other things. Maybe it’s near a waterfall, but not in the water, near a water tower, maybe it’s saying you have to walk through the water to get to the other side. The chest has a wood liner and his love for antiquities comes to mind as a reason he might not want it soaking in water for 1000 years.

    As for Brown and meek. He says non fiction only has to be right 85% of the time. So I don’t think we can go by any grammar rules…especially when he’s told us that he is willing to bend when it comes to grammar. There is also some Browns that have to do with Yellowstone that I’ve had friends mention to me. One is Gary Brown who would have been a ranger in the park when Forrest frequented it as a child. His cabin is now the Lamar cabin where they do something with buffalo and teach classes I believe.

    • Jenny Kile says:

      I wasn’t even thinking of water high in the above post yet…I would agree there is probably some more meaning to that. I was still on the ‘put in’… lol. Assuming Forrest was referring to putting the chest in something…which may or may not be the case…but if it did, and following that line of thought…..what could he put it in, in the rocky mountains? Cave, crevice, petrified tree, under a rock, stream, or so on?

      In looking for support for any possibility…..I found support for putting it in a stream….not that I wanted to…and I always know with interpretations, it all could be wrong. I don’t want to mislead anyone…only sharing my thoughts.

      The Brown and Meek situation is interesting. It’s possible meek hints at both. Thanks for the Brown ranger info… many Brown’s…..

  2. Fred says:

    What about the Brown Construction Co. in Taos, NM. (Home of Brown).

  3. jeff Lynn says:

    brown trout below El Vado Dam. “Home of the Brown Tout.”

  4. Jeff Lynn says:

    Entry point. Home of Brown and where warm waters halt. Warm waters halt during most season below a Damm. Swim on top fish for brown at bottom. Or Hot springs that flow into a cold river. This is entry.
    Final exit or find point is at the blaze. Bright place on rock where a rock slide cant cover it.

  5. Jeff Lynn says:

    its too far to walk. He has known the place for years. So quit thinking its only where an old man can walk. Its to far to walk for take a horse or boat. raft canoe.

    BUT WHAT IS IN THE WOOD. Maybe the tall pines.

  6. Dave Belsito says:

    My interpretation is the treasure is NOT in NM., it’s in Wyoming. Below the home of Brown, could be Grizzly Bears, also where warm waters cease…The roads around Grebe lake where he used to fish, are closed for the winter….my guess is it’s up there!

  7. Brian Massey says:

    The visual thought that I get is it is hidden in a secret place that ONLY Forrest Fenn knows about. Think about that for a second. So the first place he states is a WATERFALL where warm waters halt and take it in the canyon down not far but too far to walk. This waterfall is high enough that it takes the water into the Canyon down below it. So where around the bottum of the waterfall you want to look for a place thats incorporated to Brown Trout. Go into or around the Waterfall,you will be waist high to stacked Rocks that are big and heavy loaded stacked on top of each other. it is no place for the Meek,the waterfall has a cavern or cravause,look for a stand where the blaze is,the chest sits on top of it. Forrest Fenn has said himself that some people have come close to finding his treasure. Which Waterfall has this secret cavern in it or Cravause around it remains the question. I believe it is somewhere that has a vault like structure inside or around a waterfall. Pay attention to details. The waterfall is 5,000 feet above Sea level,it has’t do something with being close to water but not in water. The Mecanism to the poem is a WaterFall and what connects it to the treasure. I believe it will be found. It will be in a waterfall or around it and it’s a secret place where ONLY FORREST FENN KNOWS ABOUT IT.

    • David says:

      I took that as the treasure is old to him since he’s had it for a while, but it will be new for who ever finds it, but i really hope you’re right on this one. That changes everything, you wouldn’t be digging for some chest but looking for a hidden entrance to a cavern.

  8. Colton says:

    I have a few very good ideas of my own which I will not share. 🙂 But the line that says ,”And hint of riches new and old.” This is saying that there is more in this location then just his treasurer( new) but also there is other treasure(old). I honestly think he found the location of another hidden treasure but never told anyone about it ans put his own treasure there.

  9. Hank says:

    It’s hard for me to believe he would put a valuable box worth what $25000.00 (without the treasure) in a river that would be under constant punishment from rocks, logs and any other debris flowing down stream. Bronze would seem to be a soft metal composed of copper and tin and could easily be destroyed by high water and the forces of nature in short order. If my effort will be worth the cold is in a river then why put in brave and in the wood?

    • Rich says:

      Thats my main concern with the poem. I feel like its hidden in or near a river or waterfall, but at the same time, how could you guarantee it wouldn’t get washed away during a flood. You couldn’t. Therefore – by default – It cant be in a stream.

  10. F. F'n says:

    Eeeeehhhhwwww . . . . white lightnin’.

  11. Jacko says:

    Forrest was recently on TV saying it is NOT in a grave! He has also said on many occasions that he never said it was buried, period. Quit digging up historical site and tearing up public lands. He is 70+ years old. He did not hike into the wilderness with 42 pounds and dig a 3 foot hole!

  12. Ginger says:

    Don’t forget about trains and stations. Ma Brown ran the broading house at Scribner MT

  13. Seeker says:

    oh!!!! so close but yet so far. your thinking right, but wrong conclusion. try this line of thinking. FF said in an interview with the daily beast that the chest was “exposed” to rain, snow and could be scored by fire.
    also he said, it can be safe from mud slides, floods, earthquakes and “I can not think of any better place for my bones to rest for a few millennia”.( yes that’s the exact spelling ) so if a chest or any object can last and be safe for that long a time period! why would you think that a “ranger station” would last or stay in the same place. a millenium ago the USA wasn’t even founded, names and place of cities roads and even yes mountains and canyons have change names even in the pass 200 years.
    Not saying that the poem is not giving you directions to the chest, but reading it like a road map is the wrong approach. in my humble opinion, anyways. so in conclusion if some one was to search for the trove 1000, 2000 or more years from now why would it be at Mr. Browns home? Hell … Rome is not the same Rome of 2000 years ago

  14. Cynthia says:

    Wow, just found this page. I have thought so many off the same things as you posted. I really think this is going to be found soon. So much to read into, and so much to take in…Im ready to go look soon.I feel good about this…Thanks for your page.

  15. Sixer/Jenny says:

    Best of luck to you Cynthia!

  16. Mike Owens says:

    Yellowstone, or near it. The place is dear to him. It is above 5,000 ft above sea level. •Highest Point: 11,358 ft / 3,462 m (Eagle Peak)
    •Lowest Point: 5,282 ft / 1,610 m (Reese Creek)

  17. Forrest fenns treasure is in a hallowed out tree with
    A blaze or marking on the tree as he said
    “If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,
    Look quickly down, and your quest to cease.”
    ~ The Xiled One

  18. E* says:

    F.F’n: I hope we don’t have a Brown Out,…white lightnin’ is blazin’ RIGHT!:

  19. Edward says:

    Fenn specifically said it is exposed to rain and snow and not in the water

  20. Bob says:

    A ranger cabin is a structure and it seems like everyone is messing with his poem and not starting at the beginning.

  21. Rob Miller says:

    I like to think that Home of Brown is the home or Brown Trout and Put in is a fishing term for getting in the water. I truly doubt that a fisherman would use the term “home of Brown” and “Put in” and not be referring to Brown Trout…But I could be off base.

  22. Me says:

    “Put in” has always been a term I’ve heard as to when/where you put your skiv in a creek, river.

    • Me says:

      Not too far, but too far to walk…. then it says to “Put in” because you can’t walk there, you have to go by boat.

      • Me says:

        Also, I’m interpreting it as saying that maybe it’s just across the creek/river. It’s not too far, but in order to walk, you’d have to go very far to get across it.

        • Rob Miller says:

          Me…that was my thought as well…Further, home of Brown sounds like a fish hatchery to me. So put in below the fish hatchery, cross the river and go up a small tributary with a waterfall (water high). Further, it must be on public property…so a fish hatchery above 5000 feet on public property that raises Brown Trout (a non-native species that has been eliminated from many of the hatcheries and river systems). A correct interpretation of the starting point could really narrow down a search.

          • Also, the term nigh can mean “to the left”…it does not have to mean in close proximity…

            • “Just heavy loads and water high.” heavy loads to me means big rocks and water high is a waterfall. Therefore, the sentence: “There’ll be no paddle up your creek, Just heavy loads and water high.” Is a clever way of saying leave your boat because you have to walk up the left side of the waterfall.

              • Michael says:

                I just wanted to add something here as a few people I think missed something very important. In Fenn’s second book “Too Far To Walk” he mentions in the preface that to him, too far to walk is 10 miles. He later said in an interview that he didn’t realize that was published, as he thought he took that line out of the preface. He gave an unintentional hint in the book.

                But he also states that sometimes he purposely messes with people. Like when he said it is at least 300 miles West of Toledo. Someone asked if he meant Toledo KS or Toledo OH, and he said Ohio. Well, that’s kinda obvious as it is some 600 miles from Toledo to even make it into the mountain range states where he said the treasure may be.

                Also, people talk about him lugging up this heavy 42 pound box. He said himself that he made two trips from his car, in one day, to hide the treasure. He said he first took the box, then went back to his car, and came back later that day with the contents of the box.

                As he said before “If you find it, it will be intentional, and it will be because you followed the clues.”

                Personally, I think it’s near a big trout fishing hole somewhere near Silverton Colorado. As There is a meek creek some 15 miles north of silverton, and Silverton was once known as the brown are due to the high influx of prostitution etc near Blair street, etc…. BUT, I could be completely wrong on my theory.

                I know this: a lot of people will lose their minds looking for his treasure. (On a side note, he recently said in an interview in February of this year that his clue about the box being wet isn’t really a hint at all. He said “It’s in the rocky mountains. You could bury something 6ft underground and it’d still be wet. It’s not a clue about water at all.”) Just something to ponder!

                • Michael says:

                  One other thing. He said at another time that the BLAZE he is referring to can be seen at night with a flashlight…. has a ton of stuff on this, as they talk to him quite frequently and he usually does his interviews with these guys. They have spent literally years trying to find it and haven’t been successful. He did say that one of the guys came within 200 feet of the box, but he wouldn’t say which one.

    • Hi Me
      I do believe you are right…about put in…a boating and aviation term. But didn’t forrest say he walked in with the treasure? Could that mean in involved some walking…..He kidded about a bike too, at one point. Lots of questions. I think if he used a horse and horse trailer to get near to his spot. It would of brought too much attention to himself….Someone would of said “Oh Yes Forrest came and got a horse and was gone locally for a day or two….around this time.”..So I say….No to horse….
      From everything I have gathering in the last few years. I think its up a small creek….not on a human trail and most likely 200 feet or so off a main road and or trail.

      Just my thoughts…Lou Lee Bear

  23. Bob Cullens says:

    below the house of brown.og. Brown is a name he respects. the cheif say don’t bother the house of brown. the brown family has been around way before this guy. witch became his play ground of artifacts and gold. daniel brown was actually mr. fenns friend. he says put in at the house of brown then thats where i would start down the canyon. he refers of the fire. if you find the fire look down. well if he refers to the sun risesing at the time of day and shinning on the mountain that glimmers and looks like a flame. but you would have to be ther just at the right time of day. good luck with that.

    • William says:

      Just started researching it myself within the last month or so. Would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on this.

  24. T says:

    I seen a post on facebook about Fenn’s Treasure Hunt and I took a look at the poem. It was very interesting, so I decided to do some research on this guy and this hidden treasures worth millions. I started to decipher the poem and didn’t want to think to far outside the box and remember this guy was at least 80 years of age when He hide the treasure. I have my theory. I’m new to this poem as of Today. I have no time to travel, plus I’m not a water person or a Hunter. I am more than willing to to give my theory to anyone whom is interested.

  25. Dwayne perry says:

    His rainbow probably refers to trout so I would start by finding where he liked to go trout fishing

    • Lou Lee says:

      Many have thought its all about the connection with fishing. Could be…Rainbow, Brown. We don’t know for sure. He fished Gallatin, Madison, All rivers in Yellowstone…Lakes etc….I feel like if I could spend a whole summer devoted to hunting, I could figure it all out. I can’t tell you how many hours I have spent, in the past few years on this, but it is much; Reading old maps, books and more books. Charts, water ways, divides, canyons, everything under the sun…..Wishing for the perfect solution!
      The perfect clue or sign leading the way…..

      Lou Lee Belle,

      Modern Day Miner, Treasure Prospector, chased by Brown Bears in Jellystone Park and lived to tell the tale, from Whoville 🙂

  26. Jarren says:

    I plan on going this June (2015). Anyone who thinks they know where it is email me. I’ll give you half if you successfully help me. I’ll need money for supplies and so I know you’re not throwing darts at a board. jabutus(a) (replace (a) with @.) I wrote it that way so Web crawlers don’t find me.

  27. KC says:

    The treasure is in a river / river bank. You must wade upstream from the boat “put in”…..and wading upstream in strong current is certainly “heavy loads” against you body as well as “water high”.
    It is from this view – out in the river looking back at the bank…(that a fly fisherman can relate to)… that you will be able to see the “blaze”. It will be quite “cold” because you must search in winter when the water level in the river is low enough to expose the blaze & treasure.
    See the poem titled: In The Wood by H.E.Clarke. It describes a journey that ends in winter. Fenn’s clue “if you are in the wood” – means if you are there in winter time……and early morning when the first light beams into the canyon with a “halo” like glow, (again taken from the Clarke poem)….That is the “BLAZE”. (so your search must be on an early winter morning with no clouds…sunlight must create the blaze as well as shine though the water to give you a glimpse of the chest. Fenn says don’t “tarry”, because you will be wet from reaching down into the water to grab the chest – and you must rush back to your vehicle before you freeze.)

    That’s the way it is…………….unless I’m completely wrong – and in that case, Never Mind!

  28. Stan says:

    Home of Brown could be Brown House Pottery and Lodging in Montana

    I think the creeks in the area start and stop, so “There’ll be no paddle up your creek”. There are dams and reservoirs in the area, where warm waters halt Lots of canyons..

    Sorry, never been there. Follow the rainbow.

  29. poor man says:

    i think someone should go to trappers lake colorado ill bet why life on it. if i had the money id go get it myself..good luck to you all

    • JC1117 says:

      If you know where it is then I will go.

      I don’t have money, either.

    • EW94469 says:

      I’ve been to Trapper’s several times. It’s my “spot” for several reasons. If the treasure is not there then I am absolutely stunned at the coincidence for how many clues I have matched there, even outside of the poem. If you ever get some money to visit, look me up…we’ll share treasure stories!

  30. Dave says:

    Well, we all seem to have found our “treasure” just as Fenn would like us to do. Adventures in the outdoors, being with family or friends. I truly believe that the actual treasure, the one he hid, has been found and that that person has kept it quiet as so not to ruin the adventure for all that it has inspired or will inspire.

    If it has not been found, would hope that everyone enjoys the thrill.

  31. Cat Brooks says:

    I think the treasure is in Wyoming, in the Medicine Bow Park because, in his latest interview, he said it is W. of Cleveland and N. of Santa Fe. The longitude and lattitude lines meet at Browns Peak in the park. There is a canyon with a road that goes along the rim and down into the canyon. He also said the tresure is above 5000 feet and below 10,200. There are elevations in this specific area that are EXACTLY 10,200 feet, narrowing down the area considerably. This is the one place that has all the clues.

  32. The clues are not obvious – they are tricky and well-thought out ..

    Forrest is a lot more intelligent than many seem to give him credit for. He is not simply a ‘Trout Hound’ plying the waters of “Old Yeller Ranch”, year after year, returning faithfully to his favorite old haunt, simply because he has fond memories of his childhood. He CAREFULLY CRAFTED every single line to be as difficult as possible for the average person to figure out, yet capable of being understood – after the fact. It’s like reading an Agatha Christie Mystery Novel – The clues are obvious, even to children, but they only make sense AFTER you’ve read the final page and KNOW who the killer is ..

    I have read many, many, MANY posts where “Chasers” absolutely defend, to the death, the idea (ad libbing, here, folks) that – “Forrest is a dedicated ice water stream caster and he would NEVER fish on a lake from a boat!” — and, yet, his father fished from a boat on Lake Texoma (a very warm place mind you, well below 5,000 feet), and Forrest himself sent an old photo (to Dal, I believe) of FORREST standing next to a grungy old boat strapped on the roof of a grungy old car – near a lake .. Or the idea that it “HAS to be a Waterfall .. or is HAS TO BE a Geyser” or it HAS to be at the “Bend of a Certain River” that Forrest went with his Mother, or some other nonsense, “just below a Brown Trout School, next to a Brown Trout Tractor Shed, where steaming hot lava from the Red Geyser below the Green Waterfall, where he swam with his Brother, merges into a four foot diameter kiddie pool of warm, dry water, creating a rainbow arc, just past a bunch of huge rocks that have to Black, beneath a thousand year-long petrified tree with an ‘F’ engraved into it at the only place where you’ll find the letter ‘X’ .. It MIGHT be a Waterfall. I MIGHT be a Geyser – but there are so many other things it also MIGHT be ..

    So many “Chasers” have locked onto their interpretation of what they think the poem means – and, failing, year after year, search after search, they still refuse to change their interpretation — Oh, they might move a few feet to another place, or change geyser to boiling mud pit, but their interpretation invariably remains the same — “I’ve studied and studied and it HAS TO BE RIGHT!! – Because I’ve studied and studied and it’s the ONLY interpretation that makes any sense!” – to you. – “I know I’m right , I’m just not looking in the exact right spot!” – “Next time, though, and you’ll never hear from me again! .. ” — pull your heads out of your asses and look at other LESS OBVIOUS possibilities .. His knowledge is vast. The books he has read are ancient. Spending your life anywhere West of 12″ of rain a year creates a Unique Mental Concordance with Nature. (Trust me, I know .. ) Fenn’s IQ is probably much higher then “1930s Texas Farm Boy’ – even though he was stupid enough to become an officer ..

    The poem means exactly what it says – if you can interpret it .. “Alone In There”, “Treasures Bold” and “Hint of Riches New and Old” are important clues, both to the general and immediate “Location” .. The TRAIL has been found .. it’s tricky to decipher, but it’s possible .. the clues ARE there, if you’re patient enough to not only find them, but read them .. they are (kind of) in order (there are a few tricks to that order within the poem) .. what you think are clues may be “alternate clues” .. their location, within the poem, may change, and their initial INTERPRETATION MAY CHANGE .. be prepared .. there are a lot of .. “Diversions” .. along the way .. “Clues” that may lead you in multiple directions .. to “Other Clues” that also may lead you in multiple directions –

    The trick to finding the FINAL CLUE is to decipher which, exactly, is the right direction to go ..

    • Devinver says:

      Brad Hartliep,

      Couldn’t agree more with your view of so many people’s take on the poem, it’s meanings, which is the first clue or which aren’t clues, where this is, where that is.

      Also, I think most are taking the vagueness of some of the poem as meaning “open to my interpretation”, which I doubt is the case. I don’t think you can just shrug and say “mmyeah, that’s too far to walk”. To far for whom?

      Anyway, I’ve been into this for about a month or less and am a little obsessed. I guess I like puzzles 🙂

      And thus far the only thing I’m positive about is that I’m not positive about anything. Hopefully that will work in my favor

  33. Karen says:

    In an interview he was doing he was asked we he took the chest to this certain place and he said it was a place that he had visited several times and was fond of this place. So it is probably not some fro. His childhood. Just saying.

  34. Karen says:

    In an interview he was doing he was asked why he took the chest to this certain place and he said it was a place that he had visited several times and was fond of this place. So it is probably not some place from His childhood. Just saying.

  35. kinglost says:

    may be house of brown referees to house of brown bear near the lake, some how i thing the poem is related to the constellation name aquila the eagle altair. the colour of eagle must be goldes brown and its also in mexico’s flag.some resemblance must be there.

  36. matt says:

    the conejos river (rabbit river) was discovered in 1830’s and the first settlers of mexican goverment home of 50 families what were considered brown people aka the house of brownand also the home of rabbits a rabbit hole … also “put in” for paddling or whitewater rafting was big in the conejos river in the pinnicale canyon and home also to brown trout and brown bears it is warm water because the conejos river is mostly shallow and wide so its warm but when it reaches the canyons like pinnicale canyon a big spot for rafting it flows into canyon forming whites water rapids and to far to walk because the river is 25 miles long but for a boat not to far aka a blaze (the rapids) are white

  37. rewd1 says:

    Check the Santa Fe sewerage treatment facility. Where the warm waters end. House of brown, up the (shit)creek without a paddle, no place for the meek. jmho

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  38. Cliff says:

    Forest sounds like a pretty interesting person, and this treasure hunt is definitely an adventure worth bad I live on the left coast.its too far to walk. We do have a brownlee reservoir and lots of high places with water falls . Albeit not ones with Fenns treasure but surely gems in their own right.Maybe some day I will stroll that direction to visit the beautiful desert country and look for some great rainbow fishing.

  39. W says:

    I think you guys are overthinking this. If you’ve spent a bit of time outdoors in the west the terms of the poem are pretty obvious.

    Things like “put in” are what you do when you’re on a river trip and you make camp at night. Maybe I’m getting old but that’s how we always used the term. It’s just a good spot to put your canoe in the river or take it out. I seriously doubt he means putting it in the water or some nonsense. He’s telling you where to pull your boat/canoe up, and start the next leg of your trip.

    Also a blaze is a trail mark. If you find the lucky blaze, that he probably made himself, you are on the right track I guess.

    That poem is all common slang, at least it was when I was younger. The more you overthink this the more words you put in his mouth and the more it becomes more your story not his. Except for the starting point the directions are straightforward.

  40. Brenda says:

    Just started getting interested in this again. Heard of the treasure a few yrs ago. I am a poet and have just read the poem. I read it as a poet would read it and looked for meaning as if I had written it. I have several thoughts. The treasure is not in a forest or stream or wilderness. The treasure is in plain view. I believe Brown is a proper name of a person. Draw is not what it seams….and other clues that come together for me to point to a totally unexplored area. Don’t want to give too much away but I truly believe that everyone is taking the lines literally and they are not literal but as a poet would describe what he sees.

  41. chas says:

    As i have gone alone in there…this sounds like a cave…though Fenn has said the treasure is NOT in a mine.
    Begin it where warm waters halt
    And take it in the canyon down,
    Not far, but too far to walk.
    Put in below the home of Brown.
    This verse is pretty straightforward…we know that Fenn made two trips to plant the treasure. We know that the treasure is in the rocky mountains north of Santa Fe, and is NOT in idaho or Utah..
    Put in below the home of Brown…I believe this is the spawning pool for Brown Trout, and is the same as
    Begin it where warm waters halt
    Not far, but too far to walk…between ten and fifteen miles, no more…so you’ll need to take a canoe from the dam or spawning pool, thru a canyon
    From there its no place for the meek
    The end is ever drawing high;
    There’ll be no paddle up your creek,
    Just heavy loads and water high.
    Obviously you have to get out and walk, so bring a good pair of waders…water high can only mean one of two things…deep water…or a waterfall…or both…after you pass the ten mile mark from the spawning pool, the entrance to where the treasure is is within a five mile radius,IF u have the right stream, so look for something interesting and ‘special’ like an island and or a copse of trees or a wood
    If you’ve been wise and found the blaze
    Look quickly down, your quest to cease…
    Fenn has said u can see the blaze at night with a flashlight…its certainly a marker
    But tarry scant with marvel gaze,
    Just take the chest and go in peace
    So the chest is not buried…but it is probably in still water…very possibly in a cave or hollow tree
    So hear me all and listen good,
    Your effort will be worth the cold,
    If you are brave and in the wood, I give you title to the gold.
    So, don’t go in the winter, don’t go in the spring…the cold is the water, and the wood is where you’ll find the treasure…let the snows melt…only do this in summer and fall

    • chas says:

      You gotta think like Fenn…or Hemingway…or the ghost of Thoreau searching for ‘moose’. Take short rations to last a week and choose the best Brown trout stream you can find…take a kayak and fly fish your way to the treasure…Honestly, be careful not to get what you wish for…the treasure’s not the treasure…you will rue the day you find it, if you find it…Just fish and if they won’t bite change flies or go hungry…then break out the short rations you lugged up there, canned spaghetti in a skillet…just don’t burn your pallet or you’ll ruin it….I am planning these fishing trips around Fenns treasure when i retire
      ..IF I retire…

  42. as i have gone in there alone yellowstone park warm waters halt madison junctione below home of Brown yellowstone park entrance put in madison river forest road near west yellowstone my guess a favorite fishing hole in madison river near the blaze forest fire of 1988 look into the madison river where Brown trout go to spawn in the fall got to be there has to be only place possible

  43. jon says:

    Has anyone checked off the path by Ampitheatre Lake in the Tetons. There seems to be a perfectly square bronze looking object inside a triangular shaped rock just off the trail to the right. Its in the middle of the rock formation that kind of resembles the part of Fenn’s book that states about a bathroom with an overhead light. Also, begin it where warm waters halt which would entail Yellowstone area. Canyon down would put you somewhere near the Tetons. Put in below the home of Brown which could be the National Elk Refuge. No place for the meek, Mount Meek is in the Tetons. There’ll be no paddle up your creek, Beaver Creek is near by and beavers have paddles. Just heavy loads and water high, the Tetons has lots of boulders and many high lakes. If you’ve been wise and found the blaze, there is a peak called Owl Peak and a blaze to the right called Burnt Wagon. Tarry scant with marvel gaze, Thor ( who is a marvel character ) is a peak close by straight down. Hear me all and listen good, could mean Ampitheatre or could mean the world to listen. Effort will be worth the cold, Forrest mentions in his book that bronze is considered cold. If you are brave and in the wood I give you title to the gold, there is a plaque on a table at the Jackson Lake Lodge that states “World Peace Table” which could mean the Table Mountain that is also near the Alpha and Omega Lakes that have a beginning and an end. Also, if you look a little down the slope from Delta Lake, it looks like a perfectly square rock with a picture of an indian brave praying to the heavens in a meadow between the tree lines. All this can be seen on Google Earth.

  44. David says:

    On the commercial listings of a group of powerful Santa Fe Businesses, one on line ad stands out as a dead give-away to a line of Fenn’s poem. The on line ad shows an adobe wall with a HOME sign painted brown. How clever! If you click any advertiser on this page another wall shows up with a different logo. The treasure is in Santa Fe. The second give away clue:
    if you take artist’s road to the lookout point over the city of Santa Fe when the sun sets, you will see the marvel glaze covering the entire valley; this is the first and intentional replacement of the word marble which now alludes to other substitutions if you care to play. And finally, when the sun sets, the city turns into the blaze as would any city from this type of view point. The drop off from the lookout would not hold any treasure as to its dangerous slope-so to look quickly down infers motion. The overall treasure phrase is: in the wood! And, curious as it is; only Forrest can give you title!

  45. Charlie says:

    Do you want to work together and split it? I live in Santa Fe, I think it is here somewhere?

  46. C.M.R says:

    I might think about it, what do you have to offer? Can you pay for gas? I live in Santa Clara Pueblo. I have relatives with some land that borders public land and I think I have it solved.

  47. Charlie says:

    I have a backhoe if it helps. I have an idea of another place to look but I don’t have all the clues figured out.

  48. Roy says:

    Well, guess I know where its at.

  49. james says:

    sure wish I lived closer to Yellowstone, having the love of trout fishing gives advantage to the poem. things in the poem a trout fisherman relate to. Another advantage is being around old school men ,knowing there ways , how they think an talk. Yellowstone fall trout fishing trip is on my bucket list if I find it ill leave half of it that’s my word.

  50. Randy says:

    Hi Jenny,
    I just read this post and appreciate your insight. You have reinforced my own interpretations and given me faith in my current solve on several points. Thank you and good luck in your search.

    Sincerely. -Randawg.

  51. Andrew Jef says:

    Chas, can you point me to where Forrest said that you could see the blaze at night with a flashlight?
    Thanks. The reason I ask is that some folks think that the blaze relates to the sun — or may, in fact,
    BE the sun.

  52. Terell says:

    also heavy loads and water high i think its by a raging river with rail road tracks by it meaning the rail road tracks carry heavy loads and the raging water is water high.

  53. Grant says:

    I had never heard of Forrest Fenn until a coworker told me about the treasure today. I decided to look it up and was told to start with the poem. So, with a virgin eye I typed the poem into Word so I could type notes and brainstorms next to the lines. My first thought was the treasure would be somewhere near a treatment plant or power plant as I took the lines ‘warm waters halt’ (waste water from plant or factory), ‘heavy loads’ (load can be an electrical term), and ‘water high’ (high concentration in the water such as waste, salinity, pH, etc.). My second thought was it was near a dam – ‘waters halt’; ‘canyon down’; ‘too far to walk (too steep?)’; ‘heavy loads (electric dam)’. After reading the posts on this website, it is romantic to think it is the poem of an old fisherman creating a verbal map to his favorite fishing spot. I think the poem is direct but uses uncommon uses of word or plays on the words such as ‘home of Brown’ meaning the word home might be painted brown (except that nagging capital ‘B’ which makes it a proper noun and I believe not by accident). My next step is to rewrite the poem with my interpretation and then sit back and feel proud in my genius, knowing I am not wrong until the treasure is found. Happy hunting to those that actually get to hunt the treasure!

  54. michael r rankin says:

    Hello Jenny my name is Michael and I have read a lot of other Searchers thoughts and you are the only one who now makes me worry with what you have shared, even though you have no Clue what you have found from what I gather but another Searcher may have a Clue. I have been waiting for things to be as they need to be for me to retrieve the Chest since I stood over it in October and until now my wait wasn’t so bad but next week if weather allows I may have your answer to one of your questions and will try to contact you again and share with you my Solve. Until then Ponder this, one Path from the South and one Path from the North meeting in the middle where the Chest lies.

    • Nathan Bellew says:

      I think we may have the same solve, but mine is incomplete. Email me at I live in Wyoming and I can easily travel to any of the 4 states. I would also be willing to go 75/25 on the chest. (75 you, 25 me). Let me know… N.

  55. Steve says:

    Found this thread looking for Brown Trout near the Hoover Dam , Where warm waters end I believe is at the Hoover dam, down that canyon there are Brown Trout fishing holes or the home of Brown, (he is a big fisherman) I’d say somewhere around Willow Beach.

  56. Steppenwolf Goats says:

    So what if put in below the home of Brown simply means that you’ll put your watercraft in a river dictated by the preceding lines at an elevation below the resting spot of the bronze chest? Bronze is after all a brown colour; So the “home of Brown” could be the resting spot or home of the bronze chest or Brown and Brown could be his name for the chest.

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Sunday, May 24, 2009

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Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Nanotechnology Challenges: Implications for Philosophy, Ethics and Society. Review

Nanotechnology Challenges is an expansive collection of papers originally published in successive special issues of Hyle: International Journal for Philosophy of Chemistry and Techne?: Research in Philosophy and Technology, which were themselves the product of a number of stimulating and energetic conferences held at University of South Carolina. It is a welcome development to have the papers collated and published in a single volume. Edited by Joachim Schummer and Davis Baird Nanotechnology Challenges includes a number of notable contributions — particularly by authors such as Bernadette Bensaude-Vincent, Alfred Nordmann, Cyrus Mody, Jean-Pierre Dupuy and Alexei Grinbaum — which have already become key references in the academic consideration of the societal and ethical dimensions of nanotechnology. As such the volume stands to make a valuable contribution to this young field, and to the development of nanotechnology itself. At the heart of the book Bruce Lewenstein asks a tantalising question: ‘What counts as a ‘‘Social and Ethical Issue’’ in nanotechnology?’. He goes on to suggest that: To say that there are social and ethical issues is to say that science and technology exist only in a social context, and that we cannot understand how science and technology develop without understanding both the social conditions that produce them and the simultaneous scientific and technological conditions that produce society. (p. 202)

Lewenstein therefore argues that science and technology do not simply have ‘implications’ to which society mutely responds. Rather science and technology are enacted in thoroughly social, moral, ethical and political contexts such that it is impossible to speak of asocial or ‘pure’ science.

This is particularly the case given the fact that, as noted by a number of authors in the volume, nanotechnology is a relatively young field and therefore presents an unstable object for social science and philosophical analysis. Indeed, nanotechnology is characterised as much by competing claims as to its societal ‘impacts’ than its technical promise. As Schummer notes in the final chapter of the volume, notions of societal and ethical implications of nanotechnology have been articulated, over the last few years, by a diverse set of actors and interest groups with a stake in the future development of nanotechnology.

That is that notions of the ‘implications’ of nanotechnology are embroiled in strategic arguments about what nanotechnology itself constitutes. Ideas of the implications of nanoscience and technology — both opportunities and risks — are articulated in order to legitimate particular versions of nanoscience the particular social futures that nanotechnology is cast as enabling. What counts as a social and ethical issue in nanotechnology is also therefore intimately tied to political and strategic questions of what counts as nanoscience.

Lewenstein’s question recalls Latour’s distinction between matters of concern and matters of fact. In a challenge to critical inquiry Latour suggests that: The critical mind, if it is to renew itself and be relevant again, is to be found in the cultivation of a stubbornly realist attitude — to speak like William James — but a realism dealing with what I will call matters of concern, not matters of fact. The mistake we made, the mistake I made, was to believe that there was no efficient way to criticize matters of fact except by moving away from them and directing one’s attention toward the conditions that made them possible. But this meant accepting much too uncritically what matters of fact were (2004, p. 231).

Latour’s suggestion is that we move from critical appraisals of what are issues to an enlarged and affirmative assessment of what counts as issues. That is to effect a reorientation of social, political and philosophical scholarship in which the question of what counts as an issue is not taken to be simply a product of ‘the science’. Rather social, political and philosophical scholarship is, in Latour’s view, to be more proactive in widening the scope of what counts as an issue of concern. That is to add vocabularies and repertoires to current articulations of the social and ethical implications of nanotechnology that widen the frames of reference and legitimate socially robust forms of nanotechnology development. Given the breadth and imagination of its scholarship, Nanotechnology Challenges stands to make an important contribution to this ambitious project.

Saturday, May 02, 2009

Senior Dating

Dorothy and Edna, two "senior" widows, are talking.

Dorothy: "That nice George Johnson asked me out for a date. I know you went out with him last week, and I wanted to talk with you about him before I give him my answer."

Edna: "Well, I'll tell you. He shows up at my apartment punctually at 7 P.M., dressed like such a gentleman in a fine suit, and he brings me such beautiful flowers!
Then he takes me downstairs, and what's there but a luxury car... a limousine, uniformed chauffeur and all.
Then he takes me out for dinner... a marvelous dinner... lobster, champagne, dessert, and after-dinner drinks. Then we go see a show.
Let me tell you, Dorothy, I enjoyed it so much I could have just died from pleasure!
So then we are coming back to my apartment and he turns into an ANIMAL.
Completely crazy, he tears off my expensive new dress and has his way with me two times!"

Dorothy: "Goodness gracious! ... so you are telling me I shouldn't go out with him?"

Edna: "No, no, no ...
I'm just saying, wear an old dress."

Friday, April 03, 2009

What I got from is "the overall quality or character as seen or judged by people in general". Basically it is the quality that people see in oneself be it good or bad.

Hurmm...I dont know what to say. we're all grown ups. this year, all of us who were born in '84 gonna turn 20. So, I assume that all gonna be mature. In relation to that, you dont have to worry about your reputation just because a single unfortunate dumb ass mother fucker (as what we can call him) wants to do that. He doesnt own the world. 99% of the population in this world dont even know him. In fact, they dont even care about him! If he ever dare to say bad things about you, their friends wont buy it (if all of em are not dumbasses like him). however, if they do hate and laugh at you while pointing fingers, that's their loss because who might know what will happen in the future. Just let it be. He wants to say bad things about you, thats allrite. one day, he'll come crawling back to you, coz i've been there.

And thats not all with my life. I've been giving advice to people, but I myself are surrounded with problems. but to hell with it. I feel good helping others instead f helping myself.

Sunday, March 29, 2009

galloping saturday

It was a saturday which hurried past at great pace. I went out for a drive at 11:00 AM and landed up at the strand book stall,Manipal center. I picked up the "The complete sherlock holmes" which i am sure going to savour every bit of reading.Let the detective instincts begin!
Strand book stall, oxford book stall have some really good collections (of course! not computer science!!). I also happened to pick up p.g.wodehouse's "blandings castle". He is suppossedly the best comic writer of the 19th century. After having exhausted all books of "Calvin and hobbes" i thought of reading the book which inspired bill watterson the creator of calvin, charles.M.schulz's "peanuts".

Tuesday, February 24, 2009

this is a physical reminder to myself that i have to update. and i will as soon as i do my effing homework cuz i actually have stuff to say. my past weekend was abnormally eventful. i wouldn't even have realized that i was ignoring blog cuz i though no one read it BUT stephanie said she had no idea what was going on in my life cuz i ignore this thing! it's nice to know i have such a faithful reader hahahhahaha. i'm sad that i don't update as much as i used to. i never talk about what i do when i go out now and all taht stuff cuz it seems so boring/pointless. wiohsguiohsghs whatever

Saturday, February 21, 2009

I'll be damned. You ARE bisexual AFTER all!

You sees "31 Flavors" as the ideal place to work.

You can get unequivocally turned on by eating Cheese 'n Crackers -

taking the little sticks from the wrapper and sliding them into the cheese.

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Sunday, January 18, 2009

Nanotechnology: Risk, Ethics and Law. Book Review

Nanotechnology: Risk, Ethics and Law. Book ReviewThis book joins a growing number of publications exploring the opportunities, risks and implications of nanotechnologies. The question of what constitutes nanotechnologies, the extent to which they will disrupt or converge with existing technologies, and how best to reap the benefits of applications, while minimizing the risks have been major themes in recent discussions in the scientific community in the UK, US, Europe, Australia, and elsewhere. Further, the issue of how best to engage ‘the public’ before technologies become established, to ensure consent and legitimacy for developments, has preoccupied science groups and science policymakers, particularly in the UK, where a number of recent public engagement initiatives have been undertaken. The 2004 report, Nanoscience and Nanotechnologies: Opportunities and Uncertainties, published jointly by the UK’s Royal Society and Royal Academy of Engineering, has served as a focal point in debates about the implications of nanotechnologies and reflects concerns about public responses to this emergent field in the wake of the GM controversy of the late nineteen nineties. However, although highlighting a number of pertinent issues, this publication is science-focused and gives relatively scant attention to the socio-political, ethical, legal and global dimensions of nanotechnologies. The wide-ranging discussion of these issues in Nanotechnology (which claims to be ‘one of the first comprehensive books on the impacts of nanotechnology’ – p. 273) is therefore welcome.

The book, part of Earthscan’s Science in Society Series, includes contributions focusing on the development of scientific ideas about nanotechnologies, regional developments, the benefits and risks of nanotechnologies and public understanding of related issues, and the legal and ethical implications of innovations. The contributors represent a range of disciplines and fields, including molecular science, electrical and computing engineering, communication studies, oncology, sociology, health policy, law and environmental improvement. This is an impressive cast of contributors who, from their different perspectives, help advance understanding of the multi-dimensional character of the nanotech landscape. The chapters are, in the main, well written and provide useful summaries of a field, which is both contentious as to its boundaries and rapidly advancing as a consequence of huge investment, particularly in the United States under the National Nanotechnology Initiative (NNI), launched in 2000.

The early chapters (comprising Part 1) emphasise the history of the ideas and the contending definitions of nanotechnology, as well as the expectations for the field. They offer a useful orientation to the science and its potential applications for those who are unfamiliar with the issues. Novel properties are seen to emerge at the nano (billionth of a metre) level. Nano-size structures and processes are believed to offer new possibilities in diverse fields, including the manufacture of super-hard materials, the minituarization of electronic components and medical devices, new means of environmental management and of imaging, and novel sensing, monitoring and intelligence devices. However, these novel properties are seen to also present risks, particularly those arising from the manufacture of nanoparticles which may affect ecosystems and human health. Consequently, like other emergent technologies, such as medical genetics and GMOs, nanotechnologies have been greeted with a mixture of both fascination and fear. Taking responses to earlier technologies as a cue, Kulinowski argues (Chapter 2), one may predict a likely trajectory for the controversy surrounding this new field to follow from ‘wow’ to ‘yuk’. Uncertainties and fears are in particular associated with the predicted convergence or the synergistic combination of multiple technologies (e.g. Nanotechnology, Biotechnology, Information Technology and Cognitive Science) (NBIC), which are likely to present new possibilities of human performance enhancement, manipulation, surveillance and control. The trajectory for controversy, however, is likely to play out somewhat differently in different national contexts. The book’s discussion of nanotech developments in Japan, the United States, Europe, and Canada (in Part 2) therefore is interesting in highlighting both commonalities and divergences in the path of technology development. Like biotechnologies, nanotechnologies are seen by policymakers in a number of countries as having applications in numerous fields and as potentially delivering major economic benefits. International competitiveness is a major driver of policies. However, the trajectory of innovations is shaped by local politics, history and culture. In Japan and the United States, the political-industrial elite are less welcoming of the precautionary criticism of nanotechnologies than in Europe where the emphasis has been on the policy of ‘better safe than sorry’ and on ‘upstream’ public engagement as early in technology development as possible. The chapters comprising this Part provide a useful description of these trends, although are limited in terms of their analysis and critique of issues and policies and assessment of potential longer-term impacts.

Other Parts (3, 4 and 5) include chapters on the benefits and risks and risk management of nanotechnologies, the global ethics of nanotechnologies, risk, trust and public understandings of nanotechnology, toxicological issues, the future of nanotechnology in food science and nutrition, the lessons from the biotechnology field, nanotechnology and the law of patents, matters of civil and corporate criminal liability and the ethical conduct of research involving human subjects. These chapters offer both a useful summary of some recent debates about the regulatory challenges posed by innovations and serve as a source of information on current policies and legislation. Finally, the concluding chapter (‘What makes nanotechnology special?) (Part 6) emphasises the importance for nanotechnology of gaining the support of users of nanotechnology products and ‘the public at large’ if it is to become a ‘mature and sustainable technology’. Here, the potential for a ‘nano-divide’ is raised, and the reader is offered the pessimistic prediction that ‘Nanotechnology will reinforce global inequalities by fostering a nano-divide’. The chapter concludes with a recommendation that the United Nations or a similar body convenes an international conference oriented to the creation of ‘a permanent international multi-stakeholder body (for example, International Nanotechnology Agency) to review, monitor and regulate developments in nanotechnology’.

Like many edited collections, this one lacks a coherent theoretical argument and clear normative position. Further, the book makes little reference to the significance of the media in framing debates and to the politics of the public representations of emergent issues. This is a field full of expectation and competing claims about applications, benefits and risks, with much at stake in how issues are defined and communicated. Depictions of fact and fiction compete and blur in the me? lange of the numerous claims and counter-claims about the technologies’ possibilities and risks. As Vaidhyanathan (Chapter 18) points out, ‘Despite current nanotechnology claims being more relevant to science fiction than science, billions of dollars have gone into firms – all of which hope against hope that they will be among first-movers in this field and marshal the great proportion of what some claim will be a ‘US$1 trillion prize’. Nothwithstanding its limitations, however, the book can be recommended for its coverage of a broad range of topics, its inclusion of many disciplinary perspectives and its focus on the social, ethical and legal implications of developments which has been missing from many discussions thus far. This will make it an invaluable resource for science and technology scholars and students, science policymakers and funders, and indeed anyone wishing to learn more about this rapidly developing field.

Sunday, January 04, 2009

Another day in the life

I actually do understand some things, although it often takes time to figure out. Sometimes I mope because I'm wronged, other times I'm just sad because of missed opportunity.

(For the gallery: My parents called Sunday to say they were on their way to visit for the night. I wasn't real happy about that since we had just arrived back from being out of town for four days, and it had been over a week since we had sex. I was hoping for romance, not likely with Kate's in-laws visiting.)

Mondays are always a little hard for me. I really miss my kids the first day of the work week, even though yesterday was a short one. I got home and enjoyed the delicious dinner you made with food grown in your garden. Sorry if I didn't thank you enough. After dinner I went with the kids to go horse around in the living room. I had a nice evening, back at home with my family for the first night in several. This wasn't some grand homecoming but it was nice to just be the four of us at home.

You were busy with the laundry from the trip. Sorry I didn't help much. Here's what I think I understand now, and I didn't get last night.

-You put up with my parents visiting. They did buy us dinner and did spend some quality time with their grandkids, but as usual it seemed a bit forced. Our hints about them coming down to watch the kids went without response. I'm at least as upset about that as you are. (Remember though that my mom did agree to watch them all day next week).

-On top of them visiting, you changed the guest room linens so we could have a bit of fun. You also showered, put on my favorite camisole and my favorite shortie black robe. Thank you for putting effort into setting a romantic mood.

-I, on the other hand, enjoyed sitting in bed watching TV with a sleeping boy cuddled next to me. It was very nice and the I Love Raymond episode was pretty good. What I didn't realize is that you were off setting up this romantic scene without me seeming to care. I do care and I do appreciate it. Unfortunately I didn't know what all was going on until later when you were out of the mood.

Friday, January 02, 2009

got this from aisha x-core bebeh!

Name Four Bad Habits You Have:
1. smoking
2. touching my nose
3. waste good foods
4. spent too much time on the internet

Name Four Things That You Wish You Had:
1. a red mini cooper
2. L'eau D'Issey Eau de Toilette by Issey Miyake
3. that retro swatch watch
4. a fun and normal relationship (as in no sex, no longing for his/her touch whatsoever!)

Name Four Scents You Love:
1. BCBGirls Metropolitan
2. L'eau D'Issey by Issey Miyaki
3. Love by Anna Sui
4. Moonflower by Body Shop

Name Four Things You'd Never Wear:
1. army print of anything
2. carrot cut jeans
3. hotpants
4. boob tube

Name Four Things You Are Thinking About Now:
1. last friday
2. my 400 words essay
3. tyiara
4. things i said yesterday

Name Four Things That You Have Done Today:
1. went to class
2. had rice for breakfast
3. drove
4. smoked

Name the Last Four Things You Have Bought:
1. a book 'a walk to remember'
2. mascara
3. lip gloss
4. cigarette

Name Four Bands/Groups Most People Don't Know You Like:
1. ozomatli
2. n'sync
3. sonic youth
4. buzzcocks

Name Four Drinks You Regularly Drink:
1. barley ais
2. watermelon juice
3. air mesra petronas
4. nescafe ais

Last Song You Sang?
'get busy' sean paul

Last Person You Hugged?
my nephew, azfar.

Last Thing You Laughed At?
enamiix's friendster message

Last Time You Said 'I Love You' And Meant It?

Last Time You Cried?
3 weeks ago.

What's In Your CD Player?
sean paul 'dutty rock'

What Color Socks Are You Wearing?
no wearing any

What's Under Your Bed?
my yellow boots

What Time Did You Wake Up Today?
0700 hours

Current Hair?
long and layered

Current Clothes?
pink checked baju kedah

Current Annoyance?
this open burning caused by my neigboor

Current Desktop Picture?
my girl gang

Current Worry?
too personal!

Current Hate?
if i state it here, it would be an issue.

Last CD You Bought?
beyonce 'dangerously in love'

Favorite Place To Be?
my room, coffee bean subang parade.

Least Favorite Place?

If You Could Play An Instrument?
i wanna play that scottish pipe.

Favorite Color?
yellow and apple green

Do You Believe In An Afterlife?
well. yes?

How Tall Are You?
i'm short!

One Person From Your Past You Wish You Could Go Back And Talk To:
no one

Favorite Day.
FRIDAY bebeh!

Where Would You Like To Go?
new york- do my degree

Type A Line You Remember From Any Book:
'that's exactly how i feel about you!'

A Random Lyric:
' i don't want you to adore me, don't want you to ignore me...'


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