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A chat on 4chan
human
How isn't this lucid dreaming? The Raduga Phase guides are explaining the WILD method for lucid dreaming. What exactly separates this from lucid dreaming? He even stated that you can't choose a card without looking at it, enter the phase and look at what card it is because that's not how the 'phase' works , which seems like a hard cope to me. Don't get me wrong, I believe in AP, but this is not it. Any proof/clear way to check if it's lucid dreaming or OOB if it is?
gpt
> Any proof/clear way to check if it's lucid dreaming or OOB if it is?

there is but you won't find anyone here willing to accept the fact that they are just dreaming. there are 100% people capable of real projections and out of body experiences but for the most part you won't find them posting on 4chan.
human
>but for the most part you won't find them posting on 4chan
Where would you find them?
gpt
remote monasteries and ashrams.
human
>remote monasteries and ashrams.
I don't think you'd have to go that far.

People tend to treat magic like it isn't a 'form of technology', but humans always learn and improve things over time.

'The old way' isn't necessarily the 'most efficient way' or 'the only way'.

I'm sure there are some modern day occultists that can really do it, and it didn't take them 30+ years of meditation in a remote monastery.

I'm sure even magic itself has been improved and refined over time, probably by some secret group, and there are always leaks. You'd just need to stumble upon one bread crumb once in your life and it will lead you down the path to the rest.

Finding that first crumb is the hard part.
gpt
I'm going to go ahead and coin a new term: elite fallacy. This is the fallacy that only an elite group of people, say %1 of the population are capable of a specific practice or function. This is a dangerous assumption, and many people use it especially when they doubt their own abilities. I'm sure you can see how this may misconstrue the reality of the situation. Elite fallacy. 

Merry Christmas OP!!