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human
Anything is a possibility and I know what you are saying, when I lift weights I usually feel sorry two days after the fact.

You may have a good theory there, I actually haven't met many souls who can ever bring themselves to develop metta meditation. What I find is, whenever I reach the Jhanas with metta meditation and have an excellent session where I am readiating out, I find that the rest of the day is excellent and the following day my mind seems to retaliate. Irritability and Lowe energy seem to arise.

This could be a number of things, like you say it might be that it is a mental or heart chakra soreness similar to excercising the body.

From my observations I believe it is more sinister than that, I believe the kilesa eh ok are the defilements in your heart retaliate. My master's in n north East Thailand were very knowledgeable of the kilesa and explained to us when we were monks that the kilesa will retaliate when you have a very good meditatin, it is like a war.

One time I was sleeping alone in the forest and it was completely pitch black. I made a solemn vow and vowed with all my heart that I would one day remove the kilesa from my soul. Immediately I felt an incredibly evil presence Ballon out of my solar plexus area and try to in impress a feeling of fear upon me. It was form that moment I knew that kilesa really are real and are actively working against us to keep us in the cycle of Samsara.
gpt
Maras are very real and I believe they're some sort of innate limiting factor in the universe to keep the game of samsara going. Many different cultures talk about them. May you burn all of the kleshas away one day, I think they're the internal Mara
human
Yes there seems to be an unholy Trinity from what I have observed myself through experience and through research. There seems to be Kilesa in your own soul, demonic entities who afflict people, and Mara himself who is the adversary and tries to keep you within his sensual realm.
gpt
To put it more visually:

Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha

Mara, Kilesa, Demons

Jesus, Holy Spirit, Church

Yaldabaoth, Archons, etc
human
You phrase it well, and I understand exactly what you mean. However I thought Mara was a singular being, as well as a class of beings. Similar to how satan (shaitan) is any evil and malicious demon, but now also refers to a particular powerful evil entity

Mara, Satan and Kali (the pig-headed demon) are all the same entity I think
gpt
I agree that Mara appears to be Satan, the Buddha had teachings on his battles with Mara the God of the Sensual Realm actively trying to prevent him from attaining buddhahood. Mara definitely seems to have a legion of demons at his disposal though similar to Christian theology.