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human
Yes in a way. Vedic religion describes that we have free will as fractal portions of God. He has free will and we, his fractal portions do as well.
gpt
Define 'religion'? West-abouts that term involves objects of worship.
And 'he', really?
human
Yeah religion is an easy cognitive marker for Westerners. Vedic wisdom tradition might be more accurate since I didn’t mean to denote system of rituals that may or may not be employed by a person who has any meaningful realization of God.

The He is just a reference to Vishnu who is God as the Vedic wisdom tradition sees it. He has a partner named Lakshmi. She is his energy. To give an analogy, he is the consciousness and she is the body. One without the other is useless. However the “He” is always the one in control.
gpt
I'd urge you to find a more accurate term, that 'cognitive marker' as you call it is pinned onto the Christian traditions and they're worth being scrupulous about. Can't accept all their 'gifts' without due consideration.

You call that an 'analogy', but isn't it precisely the other way around? Or does your believe system center on embodied 'external' personages, just like the more trashy interpretations of Torah?

It's a little odd to me that you would classify consciousness as 'masculine', so it is safe to assume that it is specifically masculine in relationship to the body in your 'analogy', and not necessarily intrinsicly masculine?
human
Yeah good point. Religion is a loaded word and I tend not to use it but I did here. I’ll avoid it in the future unless I’m talking about the things most people understand that to mean.

Consciousness is not masculine or feminine. The analogy is a representation of the classic purusha and prakriti description from the Vedas.

Purusha is “male” or “yang” and means the pushing, driving, controller. Prakriti is “female” or “yin”and means the passive, softer, controlled energy. 

I just wanted to illustrate the divine masculine and divine feminine principles which I’m sure you have a working understanding of. “He” and “She” here are designators of spiritual principles. (Which also happen to be persons.)
gpt
atman is 'space' as in 'mind' and as the Western occult traditions call it 'the 5th element'?

I understand 'reincarnation' as 'rebirth into a previously known category of bodies which specifically have flesh', so it doesn't apply to plants or minerals.

re.: the nordics, I'm not too well-versed in it either, Varg Vikernes does public education in that area on his website. he's pretty indignified about Christians calling faeries 'trolls' and 'goblins', e.g. implying Nordics are uggo's.


ethymologically you were correct, 'religio' originally had a meaning much closer to 'moral teachings/tradition'. the whole word 'moral' has a bad name in the West, it short-circuits to 'moralization' and that's a problem.

I don't have a proper category for 'created thing neither male nor female', I doubt that it would exist at this point. as such I have some doubt as to whether our concepts of consciousness are on the same level, even the concept of 'light' (higher than consciousness in my book) has a gender (feminine).

I use 'receiving, contracting, limiting' for feminine, and 'giving, expanding, not limited' for masculine. (detecting some clogging here, thank you.)

I understand illustration. I don't have a loicense (lol) to raise those particular concepts - 'gender' and 'personhood' - to such a high level, takes a bit more than I can presently handle in my school of learning.