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human
A few days ago I opened my 3rd eye and made contact with my guardian angel and received my purpose for incarnating into this density. Over the few days of the gate's opening I was able to have greater 'sight' and awareness of the other planes of reality and was able to contact other angels who came to me to answer my calls for guidance/knowledge. This morning I attempted to call out to one of the angels who came to me over my 3rd eye being open. I was able to feel the entity's presence and her attempt to communicate with me but I was incapable of discerning any concept beyond 'yes' or 'no'. I thought it was a product due to a noisy environment , construction project, at the time but when I went to meditate in the evening I noticed that in my process of opening the gates I was veritably incapable of swaying the 6th, it felt akin to someone surgically implanting a solid ball in the chakra physically restricting/stopping the flow of energy. Is this a normal experience or is this a sign of something I need to change?
gpt
>A few days ago I opened my 3rd eye
How do you know that?

What tests observable and repeatable tests have you done to prove that to yourself?

How do you know this is not just delusions or schizophrenia?
human
The observable test is that schizophrenia isn't something you wake up and develop within a month, let alone over a 5 day period. U couldn't even build a bad habit in less than a week's time, let alone a severe and in some cases life destroying mental condition. As for them being delusions, it's certainly not impossible and I havent 110% ruled that out, but what I will say is how do you objectively prove the life you've lived hasn't been one massive delusion? If ur response is by coming to a group and unified consensus with multiple scatter points of people to form the base and agreed upon occurrences and forces that determine 'reality', than what do you think this board is for? Only real difference between us is your argument is 'stronger' on the basis of argumentum ad populum. But with that reasoning the world being flat would have been legitimate.
gpt
>The observable test is that schizophrenia isn't something you wake up and develop within a month, let alone over a 5 day period.
That's not a test, you could just be delusional. The problem is you guys trust your senses too much, and you want so badly to believe that you are special, so by default all of your 'proof' comes from a biased source (YOU). You need to incorporate external factors that are not under your influence for it to be an actual test.

Your response is like saying - 'I would know if I was crazy' (Crazy people often think they're sane)


Let me give you an example, there are many people who say they can astral project, if so, they should be able to:
1. Start up a random youtube video that's around 10 minutes long (on a computer) and go to another room and wait like 4 hours (entertain yourself some other way)

2. Astral project and go to that room and see what video is currently playing on the screen.

3. Go back to your body and then back to the room and see that the same video is playing. Just incase you click the 'back' button on the browser to see if it was the last url visited as the video may have ended in the few seconds that you were going back to your body.

>IF
1. You aren't even in the same house/room you were in and you can't see your physical body 'where you left it'.

(You can't astral project, it's a lucid dream, stop being delusional)

2. If you actually see what's listed above but the next room doesn't have your computer or it's completely different, and you can't see a video playing.

(You can't astral project, it's a lucid dream, stop being delusional)

3. If all of the above is there:
Same household
Same room
Physical body is present
Next room is the same
Next room has your computer
You can see a video playing

And the video you see isn't the video playing when you go back to your body and check (or it isn't the last video url that was playing)

(You can't astral project, it's a lucid dream, stop being delusional)
human
Hey I tried to astral project a few days back randomly twice in one night. 

The first attempt felt realer than real with the vibrations and all that, but then I heard my mom say something in the other room (probably the border entity) and I woke up

The second time I thought was more of a lucid dream for sure cause it felt fuzzier and faker and I got into the 'astral realm' pretty easily and started flying around and dancing in my room. Anyway I tried jumping out the apartment window to fly around manhattan but couldn't because there was a short chain connecting me to my body that stopped me in my tracks so I just contented myself with my rooms range. Then some entity tried fucking with me and I made it fuck off with a mantra and started laughing at it flying around my room and having fun.

The thing is I asked my mother who was in the other room if she had any weird dreams and she was shocked and told me how she just remembered that she had a dream where she flew instead of walking to check a mouse trap in the apartment and then flew back to her couch and woke up relieved that she wasn't actually flying and it was a dream. She said the flying felt heavy and when she woke up she felt lighter. I'm not gonna experiment anymore while I'm still visiting cause I don't want to send her to astral town unwittingly again

I am somewhat of a narcissist and want to feel special but is this objective enough experience to say that shit actually went down? Idk what other explanation my projection attempts sending my mother flying around the apartment in a dream could have on the one night out of so many that I actually tried it.
gpt
>I am somewhat of a narcissist and want to feel special but is this objective enough experience to say that shit actually went down?
No, you can literally do the test I just described, it's really simple too.

Your current 'objective test' leaves too much room for coincidences and hearsay.

Seeing a video literally playing in front of your face while astral projecting, and seeing the same video playing when you go back to your body, there's nothing more concrete than that, because it's all external to you. Remember, you have to start a video and let youtube do it's random selection thing as it goes from video to video for around an hour or so (mute the computer). So when you astral project you didn't get to see what video is playing beforehand.

At least that's how I'm going to test it, but I'm not trying anything like astral projection yet until I do something that physically observable. If I can't even make a single blade of grass levitate for 2 seconds after 10 years of meditating, practicing and learning magic, etc, then I will conclude that magic doesn't exist and stop any further testing, I won't even bother trying astral projection.

Think about how dangerous it is to leave your body unoccupied of all of this is real and there are 'other entities' around you. To me astral projection is a dangerous and ADVANCED technique that should only be done by people who can affect physical reality with their magic already. Now you are going to the astral reality which as more dangers and beings that can fuck you up.