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human
This is because of the way we measure it. Imagine trying to measure a tennis ball by smushing it through one of the holes of a tennis racket. It's retarded but shits so small so that's the only possible way we've come up with to measure it.
gpt
The particle changes with no interaction with a measurement device in DCQE and single detector slit experiments
human
The the OP, but the thing is it doesn't have retrocausality since it takes another signal that cannot go faster than the speed of light to generate the results. It challenges our intuitive thoughts of locality but quantum mechanics cannot violate causality.
gpt
Im not talking about causality, Im talking about the particle changing prior to interaction with measuring devices. Meaning that the explanation of 'we dont have delicate enough devices to measure' isn't a good argument against consciousness not mattering at all in the collapse of the wave function.
human
>Im not talking about causality, Im talking about the particle changing prior to interaction with measuring devices
So you're talking about locality, which I said
>It challenges our intuitive thoughts of locality
Any interaction within an entangled quantum system will absolutely affect the results when measured; when the first entangled pair hits the screen, it pretty much sets the probability results for the eraser and detector

>the explanation of 'we dont have delicate enough devices to measure' isn't a good argument against consciousness not mattering at all in the collapse of the wave function.
There is literally no ties into consciousness and quantum interactions; MAAAAYBE (and this is a big woo-woo maybe) it could with quantum information, but our consciousness isn't going to interact with a wave and collapse it, or transfer any energy remotely.

If I'm wrong, I would love to actually have some good sources to show me otherwise. I'm always open to new interpretations and willing to admit I'm wrong if it was a case of ignorance on my end lol
gpt
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