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human
I learned to astral project in my 20s, with no enlightenment. And, I can't say astral projection got me any closer. But it's still worth it, especially for someone that is looking for verification that there is something more to us than a physical body. 

Learning to astral project isn't as hard as maintaining clarity once you're there. It easily turns into a lucid dream and then just a regular dream. In short, you can start to forget about yourself in the AP state. Then subconscious projections take over. I'm trying to AP more regularly after many years of not doing it. I'm convinced that having strong meditation skills will go a long way toward helping maintain clarity in astral projection, especially meditation that involves self-remembering.
gpt
>Learning to astral project isn't as hard as maintaining clarity once you're there.
What method do you use to detach from your body?
>It easily turns into a lucid dream and then just a regular dream. In short, you can start to forget about yourself in the AP state.
Are you sure you're actually astral-travelling?
Real-life is easily distinguished from your dream-canvas.
maybe you need to open some chakras, increase the energy flow of neural-energy for enhanced perception. 

Run this simple test to be sure you're not just lucid dreaming.
[A] Astral-Travel to a location that you've no idea what it looks like; park, shopping mall, backstreet, whatever...
[B] Take a good look around at everything, go up close to examine things in detail..
[C] Return home ending the venture.
[D] Write down absolutely every single little detail you can remember.
[E] Visit that location in person while the memory is still fresh studying it thoroughly, totally interrogate the accuracy of your written memories..

IF you can't pass this test, then you're not astral-travelling.
human
>What method do you use to detach from your body?

I use my will power and visualization of outcome during the day to direct myself to have an AP later on. 

>Are you sure you're actually astral-travelling?

Yes, I'm quite sure. I wake up, feeling oddly energized and in an, alert meditative state. The energy converges upward to crown of head. When I first started having APs, it converged at solar plexus. Suddenly I pop out into the room my body is in, and all details are of the space are correct. It is upon travelling to other places that things start to transform. 

You're 'test' of whether someone is astral projecting is really a test of whether they can astral project and THEN travel to other places without the subconscious filling in details. This is like saying you're not really waterskiing if you can't go up a ramp. 

But I'll tell you what. Come visit my room tonight in an AP and come back to this thread tomorrow and give me the details. If you can AP, then all knowledge of the universe is available to you and this should be no problem finding my house. Kidding.

Kreiter described the same issue of maintaining the objective view during APing. He gives solutions, which I have not yet tried, as I just read the book. But my point is the problem I described is very common to people who AP, and it's curious you seem unaware of it.
gpt
>I use my will power and visualization of outcome during the day to direct myself to have an AP later on.
ok, so you have no actual understanding of how you are anchored to your body. 
>THEN travel to other places without the subconscious filling in details.
only valid scientific-method can be used to verify this.
If its not something the scientific community will accept then it just another new-age hippie tripping out on shrooms.

I recommend you follow the test outlined here , BUT..
get a 2nd person to choose the location you astral-travel too...
Then give that 2nd person the notes you made recording what you saw at that location.. Allow the 2nd person to go to that location by himself and verify what you recorded..
If you don't follow scientific-method, then all you did experience is your own speculation at best.