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You're somewhat right, I'd say.
>If someone wants to take the 'Left Hand Path' but they also want to have 'deep and meaningful relationships' (liabilities) I'd say they are an idiot that is lying to themselves.
Correct, LHP is not at all suited to maintaining those relationships positively.

>Everyone around you is in danger on the LHP, including you because you surrounded yourself with liabilities that can be used against you, or may even be your undoing.
True in part, it's more the LHP by its nature is not suited to any service to others, so rather than others being sources of weakness, they're simply incompatible with what you're doing.
I think the LHP is more suited to people like myself, who don't want to have a family, or children, and don't really care about having 'friends' that much. There are very few people like myself (as I've observed), so I'm not worried about competition.
That's your choice, but I hope nevertheless that you don't serve yourself at others' expense, and also contain and attempt to overcome your view of others as weak or inferior, or it will most likely blow back on you.

>By default someone like that is operating from a position of stronger 'security' than most occult practitioners, because they have no one that can be leveraged against them, or divert them from their path and make them doubt themselves.
Other people are only a source of weakness if you view them that way or let them be. I've explained how RHP methods can strengthen yourself.
>People just need to be honest with themselves about what they want and what they are willing to sacrifice to get it, but most people want to gain everything, with zero risk, and they expect no collateral damage.
This is true.
gpt
>I hope nevertheless that you don't serve yourself at others' expense
Depends, if I can serve myself without it being at the expense of others I'd prefer that, but if that is not possible I'll do what I have to do. When you look at reality, there is nothing gained without someone else losing.

When you get a job somebody else lost out on that job.

When you get a GF or Wife you 'stole' what was someone else's 'true love'.

The rich exist because there are lower classes and poor that are exploited.

The nature of the universe is that you only gain when others lose.

If there is a 'God' it shouldn't demand that I not play by the rules it set, it should have made better rules to begin with. I didn't ask for this rigged game of a universe, so I'm definitely going to play to win.

>attempt to overcome your view of others as weak or inferior, or it will most likely blow back on you
If I'm objective and logical, I doubt it. Things only blow back on people once they involve emotions.

>Other people are only a source of weakness if you view them that way or let them be
They are a weakness period. If someone kidnapped one of your loved ones, they could force you to do all manner of things.

Also you'd jump in front of a bullet for some of them, so they can literally be used as a tool to kill you by your enemies

The only way the people around you won't be a source of weakness is if they are also as powerful as you, but there's always someone more powerful and they can still put you in an 'ultimatum' situation where you have to choose between something you want and the people you 'love'.

So long as you have 'loved ones' you can be manipulated and killed. There's a reason why it's a cliche for the antagonist to hold the protagonists loved ones ransom. They just write the story in such a way that the 'hero' conveniently catches the 'villain' off guard and rescues them.

I'm 100% sure in the history of real life ransoms like this, the antagonist won 9 times out of 10.