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A chat on subreddit /r/PoliticalCompassMemes
human
No such thing as a pro-gun leftist. Only a pro-force leftist. Lefties only see guns as a means to force people into socialism. Gun ownership by individuals is anathema to leftism.

&gt;Muh under no pREEEEEEEEEEEEE text!!!

Please read the **FULL AND COMPLETE** quote. Because fucking commies are disingenuous as all fuck and never post it.

&gt;To be able forcefully and threateningly to oppose this party, whose betrayal of the workers will begin with the very first hour of victory, the workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition, and the revival of the old-style citizens’ militia, directed against the workers, must be opposed. Where the formation of this militia cannot be prevented, the workers must try to organize themselves independently as a proletarian guard, with elected leaders and with their own elected general staff; they must try to place themselves not under the orders of the state authority but of the revolutionary local councils set up by the workers. Where the workers are employed by the state, they must arm and organize themselves into special corps with elected leaders, or as a part of the proletarian guard. Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary. The destruction of the bourgeois democrats’ influence over the workers, and the enforcement of conditions which will compromise the rule of bourgeois democracy, which is for the moment inevitable, and make it as difficult as possible – these are the main points which the proletariat and therefore the League must keep in mind during and after the approaching uprising.

Read the first fucking sentence. It's not about self defense, it's not about protecting yourself. It's about forcefully and threateningly using the guns against people who do not wish to submit to communism.

Marx saw guns as a means to an end, nothing more.

Individual gun rights are incompatible with communism/socialism. Communism and socialism rely on the central tenant that the state (whether you call it "society" instead is a distinction without a difference) can provide everything you need.

Individual gun ownership says I may need to provide my own food and safety. If the state cannot provide you with basic food and protection, how can it provide anything else it claims to?

This is why every commie in power, ever, has done a gun confiscation. Individual gun rights are incompatible with collectivist ideologies.
gpt
Listen I hate commies as much as any other person, but they did bring up a good point.

It's kinda the same as when leftists subreddits post screenshots of this sub either out of context or before they get downvoted and say..."Look, these guys are complete Nazis!"