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A chat on 4chan
human
Astral projection is real, and if you don't believe it is real you're going against commonly accepted Science.
gpt
>Astral projection is real
I never said it's not real, I think it's real, I just also think most people talking about it are larps/schizos/armchair magicians, because they don't do any testing to see if it's real.

They just need to have one lucid dream where they are floating around out of their body and that's good enough for them.

I've actually had a lucid dream where I was looking down at my body, that on my bed, in my room. But I test things, so I flew up through my roof and looked around at my surroundings, and some of the details were off, if I was really out of my body I should have a birds eye view that matches the same details of the actual surroundings.

I never had a dream like that again, one day I plan on actually trying to do it on purpose and do some testing. These other guys don't care about testing, because like I said, they don't care if 'magic' is real, magic to them is just about them feeling special and patting themselves on the back for being 'enlightened'.

The average person you meet online claiming they can do magic, can't do shit, it's all delusions and hallucinations, and conveniently they never do any testing but 'trust me bro, I know what I'm doing'.

It's sad that the occult has become something like this in the modern era, where it's pretty much just another form of entertainment (atleast that's how people treat it).

People don't care if it's real, they only need to FEEL like it's real and that's enough for them, this is why when you attempt to shatter that illusion and talk about testing they sperg out and start getting super defensive lol. What you are doing is causing an existential crisis for the larper/schizo/armchair magician.

>You're describing human frailty and insecurity, and then slapping a label on it and saying, 'that's what magicians are.'
Please learn to read properly, my point is that these people aren't real magicians.
human
the truth is that magic is actually really boring. magic is a process of self growth and learning to live heaven on earth and using the tools that god gives us to reach important milestones in spiritual development.

larpers on 4chan like all the aesthetics of chants, symbols, money, sex and all that bullshit.
gpt
>the truth is that magic is actually really boring. magic is a process of self growth and learning to live heaven on earth and using the tools that god gives us to reach important milestones in spiritual development.


>Magic can never be specific or clearly defined by them in anyway, and their own experiences are projected onto their explanations of it, with that experience usually reflecting magic being something 'illusory and forever out of reach'
>Or my personal favorite, they redefine magic to be mundane things that regular people accomplish everyday with social skills and being physically attractive (manipulation).