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human
> Holy water I wouldn't say is magic either. 
How is it not? Ritual + component = supernatural result, and I am not talking about your goal-post moving definition of magic, let’s be proper and let’s talk about the proper academic definition of magic
gpt
I already provided an image of a post in hebrew that points to the legitimacy of my argument, though.


That is because magic is condemned in Christianity, idk what branch you are talking about that supposedly approves it in another form, but what I do know is that in the Christian faith, magick is strictly forbidden.


A miracles is never called forth by a ritual or action, because a miracle is an act of God done through a human being. God is not a magick genie that will grant you a miracle because you did the right ritual and/org said the right things. That's not how it works. 


see above, God is not a magic genie that grants miracles because you performed a ritual. A miracle is only done because God has allowed it to, and no amount of ritual/component/etc will make God more/less willing to perform a miracle.
human
>see above, God is not a magic genie that grants miracles because you performed a ritual. A miracle is only done because God has allowed it to, and no amount of ritual/component/etc will make God more/less willing to perform a miracle.
you can say that all you want, but that’s literally how holy water works.
Practice>theory.
gpt
No, it isn't. Holy water has to be blessed first, and such a blessing would have to be approved by God, or else the water in the Catholic Church isn't 
'holy'.
human
by your logic Holy Water would only randomly be legit, but no, Holy Water is supposed to be guaranteed to be legit if blessed by the right people. No one can know if they are actually in God’s grace or not, so how can you ever trust Holy Water to be legit?

Your argument is stupid, instead of sticking to dogma first and justifying everything through that lense try to observe how things work and go with the flow thenZ
gpt
And those people are only allowed to bless it in the first place because God has allowed them to. Just like when Jesus sends His Disciples to heal the sick and possessed, Jesus tells them
>I have given you authority
So the miracles they do are not done of their own power or merit, but only because the Lord Jesus Christ gave them the authority to do them in the first place.