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human
You're projecting. You've said that there was something (abyss) BEFORE God BECAME self-aware. Before and Became are qualities of this universe and dictated by TIME. God is not dictated by time -- when God acts it is we who are limited by time who perceives of the act as beginning and ending, but when he acts he has always preformed the action and always will; even now God is still saying
>Let there be Light
His Word holds all of creation and renews its constantly. And He is everywhere, including in this Universe.
gpt
>You're projecting. You've said that there was something (abyss) BEFORE God BECAME self-aware.
Anon when I said abyss I meant an expanse of nothingness. There is not any word that exists to describe the base reality and so I had to create terms on my own. What I'm referring to is a reality where absolutely nothing exists. The terms abyss and void somewhat describe this type of space but not complete. Most would look to outer space and perceive that as a void or an abyss, even though that is occupied space. Our entire universe is like a balloon filled with air, or in this case, a closed contained whose empty space is occupied by Aether. When I refer to the base reality, or the expanse of nothingness, you need to imagine a plane of existence where not even a single particle exists. There is no time. There are no laws of physics. It's a plane of existence so devoid and bare that just a thought materializes and becomes real. These 'thoughts' are what God used to create. When I speak of God becoming self aware, if the first thought were a spoken word, It would be 'Let there be light'.
human
I understand what you meant. The Abyss did not come before God and there was no single point in which God, the Father, became self-aware. He was always aware, always existed, always was and will be. And he is omnipresent, yet there is an Abyss in which God is not? How can this be? The Abyss, like Heaven, is an approach to God. Or rather, the Abyss is an anti-approach to God. The Abyss doesn't 'exist' because there is no place in which God is not because he's omnipresent. The Abyss then is an anti-place created by the desire to remove oneself from God -- it's a complete and willful turning off of the awareness of God.
gpt
>The Abyss did not come before God and there was no single point in which God, the Father, became self-aware.

You are touching on a question that even God cannot fully answer. 

>How long did the expanse of nothingness 'exist' before God became aware of Itself?
>Does nothingness exist if there isn't something to be aware of it?
>Did the expanse of nothingness conjure itself around God? Or did God become selfaware within the expanse of nothingness? 

Our frame of reference regarding the origins of existence begins with the Genesis of God. This does not mean that was truly the 'beginning' though.
human
I responded to this in the last thread.

Here:

gpt
God the Father doesn't experience the Abyss. He has knowledge of it, but he's incorruptible and does not depart from himself, because he is existence itself. However, God the Son can and has experienced the Abyss, departing from the presence of the Father.