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human
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the point is that one carries more blame than the other
and its whoever blindly believes anything and doesnt know how truth works and how it can be discovered that is to blame,for he didnt discover truth,he listened to what someone told him and thought of it as truth,didnt think it through get it?he just believed what was told
gpt
also cause whoever believes and never changes carries out the wrong action,the ones who spread out the lie just said something hile the masses obeyed AND DID THE WRONG ACTION
DID
THEY HAVE DONE IT
human
I guess... I just don't know if the reason YOU'RE 'imprisoned' is because the people around you don't 'understand the truth' or whatever you're getting at.

I'm saying that humans could exist happily in ignorance if there wasn't a small few of them that insisted on controlling the others.


I definitely don't agree that the 'masses' in your example are the totality of the cause for that bad thing. So... both are to blame, I guess, in your terms...

Either way, I agree with where you're coming from. It would be nice if people wanted to see outside of their pre-existing world views, and maybe the world would be a better place for it. I just don't think that makes them bad people. I see the faster way to solving the problem as solved on a government level instead of an individual one.
gpt
>I see the faster way to solving the problem as solved on a government level instead of an individual one.
if you dont see a problem with this i feel sorry for you

>I just don't know if the reason YOU'RE 'imprisoned' is because the people around you don't 'understand the truth' or whatever you're getting at.
Let me guess 'Muh others cant dictate if you are free or not,WE CREATE OUR OWN EXPERIENCE,NEW AGEY WAGEY NEW AGEYYYY'
listen i dont know if you knew but IN REALITY we co-create all together the shared manifested reality we live in.
the saying that 'we create our own experience' would only be true if you alone lived on a planet,ONLY YOU AND NOTHING ELSE.
we all co-create together and the ignorance and stupidity of other people AFFECTS whether you are free or not
Cause if people are ignorant of their rights,how freedom works and how morality is the key (like you since the statement about government said that) they will through their stupidity,gullibleness and IGNORANCE bring you down
OTHER PEOPLE AFFECT YOU and its your job to teach them truth,not say some bullshit like 'They dont affect me nanananana'
THEY DO AFFECT YOU,GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL
human
That is not what I was getting at.

>blah blah blah feel sorry for you
Look man I don't think it'd get solved overnight, and maybe I'm naive for believing in a utopian government, I think it would have to be implemented at small scales to be effective.

But let's get back to your main point.

Sure, everyone is in this reality together. And sure, their actions and decisions influence mine. But all of ours are being influenced by a set of cultural biases as well as a nearly omnipotent oligarchy. When you point at your neighbour and say it's all your fault, you let the oligarchy win by distracting yourself with someone who is not the real enemy.

As for educating people and getting them to agree with your myopic viewpoint, that's noble but misguided, seeing as neither of us have the fundamental viewpoint in all likelihood. More to the point is pointing out their own biases as opposed to inserting your own or trying to replace theirs with yours.
gpt
>seeing as neither of us have the fundamental viewpoint in all likelihood. More to the point is pointing out their own biases as opposed to inserting your own or trying to replace theirs with yours.
no i have the fundamental view period,get good i carry my knowledge with pride,humility is bitchass