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A chat on 4chan
human
Awesome, what method did you use?
gpt
Laid on my side and counted my breaths. Reached vibrations but lost it. When I reached it again I started thinking about random shit that I could keep focused on until I eventually heard a loud ass roaring noise and I was able to pop right out.
human
It can't be that simple?
gpt
Worked for me. Took me a couple weeks to do it however. Lots of trial and error to find out what works. For instance, I spent a lot of time trying by laying on my back but I could never relax well enough, and laying on my stomach is uncomfortable all around. Tried laying on my side a couple days ago and was finally able to get vibrations, then fucked up the next 3 days by accidentally falling asleep.
But essentially I count my breaths till I reach 100, by then my body is relatively numb. Then I count to 100 again and focus on just kinda letting go. The second time gets really dodgy because I'm trying to relax yet also not fall asleep at the same time. Can barely count 10 breaths without my mind drifting and losing my exact count, I usually just go back to the nearest tenth, or start over if I completely lose count. Then after I reach 100 a second time. If I can make it past the second counting, I'm probably good. The third time I will count without limit, I heard the noise around 300ish and kept counting but it didn't hold my focus enough so I lost them. Kept counting till I felt them return and immediately just started thinking about about stuff I found interesting but wouldn't get emotional about. I have trouble remembering what I was thinking about exactly, but as an example, programming or black holes or something. Took me about an hour and a half total.
human
Did you have to do any prior training (like meditation) for this to work?

If so what specific methods did you use (book if it exists)
gpt
Never meditated before starting trying to AP, which I think it's been about 3 weeks now? I listened to the first set of hemisync taped and focus 12 from the second set and skimmed Kreiters out of body book. It probably helps that my mindset and beliefs were already very compatible with those presented.