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human
Have you done it yourself?
>How many people have you heard say 'I saw everything, I was revealed the final truth of the universe... if only I could remember it'
This doesn't mean all experiences on it are invalid.
gpt
I talked to a friend about it who does acid or shrooms semi-regularly, he mostly agrees. I'm not saying that nothing can be gained from them, but meditation is ultimately superior, to which he also agreed.
human
I 'get' that the way out of being targeted is supposed to be productivity, but I HATE being productive for psychological abusers. I hate it as a lifelong opponent of hatred! For in activism against hatred, there should have been some safety, yet I was faced without reciprocity. I protected others, but was then treated not as one to be protected, but as one who was edible! I gave over a full decade in what should have been a productive decade of life to altruistic activism and then I was treated as edible for the 'parasitism' of my altruism. I sacrificed my time doing something I hated for the happiness of others and the defense of a liberated future, but there was nobody to protect my liberation when I needed it.

I don't WANT to be productive for parasites targeting me. I WANT to be productive for an honest society where nobody ever targets anyone ever.  Reciprocate me!
gpt
They are completely different things. I'm not trying to argue with you, just saying that you arguing about psychedelics from hearsay is like arguing about a book you haven't read.
human
The Dalai Lama was asked about psychedelics and he said they are unnecessary. Does he need to try them to be credible?
gpt
I do not care for what Dalai Lama says. He is entitled to his opinion, however it still does not change my personal experience - and it tells me that psychedelics allow for states unreachable by any meditation method I've tried, and one being superior to the other depends only on the goal you're trying to reach. If it is the so called abolition of desire that Buddhists are after, then sure, psychedelics are not only unnecessary but also may ultimately be hugely disruptive to this goal.
However, as that is not what I seek, and also not what I believe most people on this board seek, even if they were told otherwise, psychedelics are an amazing tool, more effective even than the tedious process of learning how to meditate - They are an amazing tool because what I seek is a diverse and exhilarating experience of life
human
>experience seeking
If that's what your after, cool. You can enjoy the Maya as long as you like, who am I to tell you otherwise.