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human
>When I interacted with them on Salvia, LSD and Mushrooms (I was never able to obtain DMT in my college psychedelic experimenting days, maybe someday) they were as the simultaneous constructors and the 'levers' of our 3D Reality below their hyperspatial 'control room' They were almost the absolute smallest, kalapic constituents of reality, a veritable 3D totemic volumenet of the best description of any part of reality under God; a 'self transforming machine elf'.

I've ONLY used DMT, and not the other three, but this is VERY much like my experience and understanding. When I use DMT, I have a strong feeling that I'm not going to some 'other' place, but rather 'inside' the place I already am. Like all matter has inner-dimensionality and this is where these beings exist. Almost like animistic spirits that inhabit the essence of objects, folded inside them somehow. I was unnerved when 'the backrooms' meme started spreading around, because it reminded me so strongly of my DMT experiences. 'The backrooms' are different from my experience in that the places I go to aren't completely deserted, and not intentionally scary/horror-themed, but the feeling my brain gives me when I'm there is the feeling of being in the back hallways or service corridors of a giant building. Like I can see the plumbing and electrical and air and IT infrastructure, wires and pipes, that all somehow work together to keep the material world as we experience it running. Most of the 'little' creatures that I encounter, which I associate with McKenna's 'machine elves' even though they present differently to me, tend to come across as infinitely-busy worker drones, programmed instinctively to build and maintain reality. Sometimes they are friendly, sometimes they are mocking, but never seem dangerous.
gpt
>Animalistic spirits 
I was just reading 
and realizing that 'being in the DMT realm' would be a lot like suddenly finding yourself in a forest full of animals that are coming out of the most obvious hiding places that you never consider when sober
Am I on to something? I've never done DMT, don't even know where to find it other than blackweb ofc
human

If you take enough, they're not really coming out of hiding places you 'missed' while sober because the geometry of your location is no longer the geometry of your body's location. But in the lead-up, as the world is changing, I at least see consciousness in everything. Layered tiers of conscious awareness in every piece of matter, 'deciding' to hold its current shape and fulfil its current role.
gpt
See Advaita Vedanta. All my DMT trips mirror that exactly. It was coincidental and odd that I hallucinated a Hindu goddess after the trip that made me Google for monism which made me find Advaita Vedanta which is Hindu.

It can be the same, sometimes. I find the drug to have insane amounts of variability in terms of visuals.
human
Nice yeah. It’s cool when you see that something from a spiritual tradition isn’t just made up but that there’s some literal higher being.


Gosh it makes so much sense now!
gpt
anyone have the paper about shape of higher dimensions? the pictures drawn look like old hindu shapes.