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human
>Warning someone is not forcing someone against their will.
If you point a gun at somebody, and tell them to do something or you'll shoot them otherwise, are you not forcing them to do something? You don't have to take over somebody's body and move them yourself in order to force them to do something. You can force people indirectly, and that's what God does.


>its a consequence of your actions.
Actions that he designed us to be able to do, or at the very least consider. Everyone has thought about sinning at least once in ther lives. That's like making a car that can move to either left or right, and not like when the car moves to the left, even though that's how you designed it.

>let me guess, the human law is bad because youre not allowed to rob people
I never implied that things that are bad aren't. I'm criticizing God for creating imperfect beings and disliking when said imperfect beings do bad things.
gpt
God is not pointing a gun at you or anybody. He said we all reap what we sow. He is saying there is consequences for being a piece of shit. He gave us simple rules to live by and here you are trying to make it out to be something it isn't.
human
I meant imperfect in the eyes of God. Or is evil part of God's perfection? That would mean God is part evil himself, since he is perfect. You just told me God is evil.

>take responsibility for your actions, its called being an adult
Getting aggressive, aren't we?


Yeah, he isn't pointing a gun at us, he is doing something way worse. He threatens us with eternal suffering. If he truly loves us, he wouldn't have created us to be inclined towards sin.
gpt
>You just told me God is evil.
lol i did not.

your conclusions are not even entertaining as they pose no moral questions, just dumbfounded assumptions 

> Or is evil part of God's perfection? 
evil is part of humans as they have free will

an animal does not kill because it is evil, it follows its nature. humans do not have that, what you call 'nature' in people who do bad to others is just selfishness and they do it because it goes unpunished and promoted by this society
human
>That 'characteristic' was added to mankind when they fell for the devil's lies
And why doesn't he just take that 'characteristic' out? Does the devil have more control over humans than their own creator? Then this creator must be weaker than the devil.


>lol i did not.
lol you did
- I say we are imperfect.
- You say that we are because we have free will
- Free will implies to consider evil as an option. It is part of your nature to consider evil actions.
- Having free will makes up perfection and separates us from the imperfect animals. God is the perfect being.
- God is thus capable of evil and has evil thoughts.

> what you call 'nature' in people who do bad to others is just selfishness and they do it because it goes unpunished and promoted by this society
As I said before, it is human nature to consider doing sinful acts. Everybody does it, they just refrain from doing it. Humans as a whole have an inclination towards this 'selfishness'.

btw I gtg so I won't be replying anymore. It was cool talking to you guys, I guess.
gpt
>Every day I see others trying to accomplish 'The Way' on their own terms.
That is their choice. The odds are stacked against us. You choose who you choose, do you really want to see 'Lucifer' to rule in 'Heaven?' You can have it, see where it gets you. I already made my judgement, everyone is free to come and go as they please in the Afterlife. They can travel anywhere they want to. Be anything they want to in the way that they understand. It's not up to me to hold you back. They can choose to be clean and/or unclean [The effects can be nullified to the point where it only effects the person personally and doesn't spread] (which is possible). You saying it is impossible is where the line is drawn.