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human
>How do you stomach the fact that Christianity proposes giving eternal life or eternal torture for people living finite lives of sin?

IT doesn't though, just repent with thou heart, thou mind and thy soul by accepting Christs ultimate sacrifice and Resurrection to divine ruler of the time-space

Note: this is increasingly difficult to do the deeper one ventures into Dante's pit
gpt
Isn't Christ an avatar of God? So, by definition of 'Sacrifice', the feat shouldn't* hold meaning, should it? It would be analagous to you saying you're sacrificing yourself by clipping your fingernail, knowing you haven't done any real damage to yourself, and that the fingernail will of course grow back. All of this, all the trials and sacrifices and everything, God was aware of beforehand; orchestrated, by way of bringing it all into being. Isn't is more applicable to say that we're a living story, than anything else? 
I'm not knocking God, I accept him as my savior, but he could've just as easily not created anything. And being wholly self-sufficient, the needn't create us to express/share his love, because he could've literally done it with himself.
human
>I'm not knocking God, I accept him as my savior, but he could've just as easily not created anything. And being wholly self-sufficient, the needn't create us to express/share his love, because he could've literally done it with himself.
Hes infinite being. Creation for him is like breathing for you. He can't just not create, as simply as you can't just not breath. For you to cease breathing is to die, for god to cease creating is for him to stop being god.
gpt
>stop being God
But isn't that a literal impossibility? And if true, then he simply could've created perfect beings, or beings wholly different from humanity. What I'm getting at is that the 'Drama' of human existence, all of it, stems directly from God, because as the creator of everything, he initiates it. Nothing is beyond him because everything more or less is him.
human
>But isn't that a literal impossibility? And if true, then he simply could've created perfect beings, or beings wholly different from humanity.
He already did that. They are called Jinn, the first born of god. The are egomaniacs who descended into hell because they wanted to rule in hell rather than serve in heaven. Then god came and made existence 2.0. Beings that can live and die, grow, learn, improve, make mistakes. We are more perfect than the Jinn, because we have the capacity to choose and change our nature. We aren't set in our ways for eternity. They hated the fact that god made a second creation, they wanted to be #1 forever. They found a way to fuck it up, and so they did. Then god came back around and put forth a way to fix the fuckup. Humankind is left with the choice on whether to be egomaniacs like the Jinn, descending further into hell. Or to be compassionate and wise, following gods ways, and ascending back to heaven.