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>Why has no one, as to my knowledge, not taken it upon themselves to arrange some large event or study to demonstrate these existence of these powers in a obvious way under scrutiny of sceptic observers?
Who exactly are the test subjects? Because normal people, the ones usually chosen for scientific studies, simply don't have these abilities, and wouldn't know where to start to develop them, and only after much time and effort would they gain anything, and the things they gain would likely not be visible to human senses or known scientific instruments.
They have done MRI studies and such on meditators and yogis, but that doesn't really demonstrate the full extent of these capabilities that are subjectively experienced.
And shapeshifting is done through the nagual, which is hardly known in any living modern civilization. I've dreamed myself into a shapeshifted form through which I could perceive physical reality, but it was for a short instant, and I wasn't able to replicate that ability for a long long time since then. I might be close to getting there again, but its a very intimate process which I wouldn't show the public, or anyone except the closest of lovers.
gpt
for real? any recs on studies like these?

>The whole point of spirituality is to transcend the physical boundaries of the mind.
sure, I get that. I just feel like if there was a yogi or someone who wished to enlighten as many people as possible, it would be in their best interest to demonstrate the transcendental powers their path is capable of in a way that is palatable to the masses (for example by flying a little bit or something) so as to open more peoples eyes and a pique their interest to the path of enlightenment and thereby leading to a more peaceful world

>Who exactly are the test subjects?
The test subject would be a yogi/shaman who would possess these powers, observed by scientists
human
>sure, I get that. I just feel like if there was a yogi or someone who wished to enlighten as many people as possible, it would be in their best interest to demonstrate the transcendental powers their path is capable of in a way that is palatable to the masses (for example by flying a little bit or something) so as to open more peoples eyes and a pique their interest to the path of enlightenment and thereby leading to a more peaceful world
I'm trying to be that person, but straight up I don't yet have those kinds of powers. I have telepathy, and its useful for interacting with peoples souls through the mental and spiritual realm. I can help people whose eyes are already open, and trying to do stuff in that realm.
I believe in time I might be ready to do some of the things you wish, but by then I might not want to anymore. I believe such people did exist, and might still exist, living as hermits in various places. In general, spirit isn't about being boastful. If people are walking with god, they already know. Those of you who wish a miracle to prove it to you, aren't really the target audience for these things.

Luke 16:31
“He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

But what I mean about if I ever get that far, I might not want to do it anymore, is true. That far for me, is complete transcendence. That has nothing to do with whether or not humankind sees me doing a miracle, and in fact the idea that I would do a miracle in front of people publicly, goes against the idea of transcending the ego, and the mortal world.
But that isn't to say I don't try to prove these things to people. I am just limited to the dream world, and nobody seems to care about that from the physical world, and when I do it in front of them in a dream, they just think its a dream.
But my dream consciousness is reaching a point that is almost practically able to effect the physical world.