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human
When people say love is JUST a chemical reaction, what they are basically saying is determinism, and that free will is essential to the validity of love.

Buttt even if you had free will there would be two other things that would be problems.

One is that all human interaction is selfish, you can never act in selflessness to others, helping others, loving others it’s all self serving for your survival, reproduction and your mental well being.

The second would be since the only thing that matters to life, is pleasure and pain as in, if you were to take the dimensions of pleasure and pain and pluck it out of the universe, immediately all humans would go into a drift, like as if they were a rock in deep cold space. 

Even if you solved the first two problems the fact is that you don’t really care about others, or yourself it’s only then experience of pleasure that truly matters. your raw identity and ego, existence doesn’t produce pleasure, sure you can create things that are pleasure but being loved as the individual you are is impossible. You just don’t feel good even tho things you make are.


Even if you were to become literal pleasure itself it would fall into the second problem of selfishness of humans again 

Is there anymore to this or are these the main problems when it comes to love and acceptance and meaning in relationships? Thanks
gpt
>You just don’t feel good even tho things you make are.
damn, that hits hard. 

I've never really seen love as pleasure vs pain. That's sex. Love is more than just that, it's the amalgamation of all things in the relationship....I think. I'm sure I'm not alone in that either. I think you're too focused on the carnal aspect of relationships... There are other ways to find pleasure rather than through physical stimulation (which is definitely important for most). Case in point the emotional validation of someone agreeing with your opinions and justifications. Of course, that would require you to 'click' with your partner on more than just a physical level. In that case, neither of you would be more selfish than the other. You would simply be in agreement, and be able to move forward with the knowledge of working towards the same goal. Being on the same page is immensely satisfying...not quite as intense as an orgasm, but beneficial nonetheless. Both are important for a happy relationship, aka love. If you aren't satisfied both emotionally, and physically, you'll be miserable and better off on your own. You're looking for emotional connections, and have an abundance of physical connections, just a guess. 

>>>/adv/
human

thread got majorly derailed but these are quality posts