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human
Thanks anon. What's the best English translation of Hanuman Chalisa? Is there any advantage to studying the original language?

>This was done by his power hungry children, the Race who lived on Olympus Mons on Mars.
So Jupiter lived on Mars, but is also a planet himself? Or am I taking this too literally?

>This is to symbolize the fall of Saturn, who was once a golden sun but has been reduced to base materials.
>Saturns rings are what is left from the accretion disc
Is there any material evidence left behind by this event? Is there anything in the rings that could not have easily been formed by the standard scientific explanations?

Is there anything in the Vedas similar to the Greco-Roman revolt of the Olympians?

Interesting. Do you know why Suryadev has darker skin? Is there a symbolic significance to this?
gpt
You could just opt to listen to hanuman chalisa. Additionally,u can also do prayanama,Saturn is a Vayu(air element) planet so Pranayama is one of the most effective remedies to deal with the Saturnian energy. Meditate on staurn while holding vayu mudra(hand position)
human
>Saturn is a Vayu(air element)
Grrr.
Vayu and I have issues.
Well, I'm an arrogant little snot so better to say I have issues with Vayu and he literally doesn't know I exist.
But still, not a fan of wind.
Why does Vayu and his associates always have to be moving the air around?
Why can't the maruts just go fuck themselves?

I should be more respectful.
Vayu has always been a dear friend to Vaishnavas. Hanuman, Arjuna's brother Bhima, even the founder of Dvaita Vedanta Madhvacarya - all are declared as sons or incarnations of Vayu.
But from an early age I have never like wind, and I have to imagine my stubbornness on this is karmically induced.
gpt
Always wondered what's our composition like as humans?
Do we have a body that is mainly made up of varun, water? How abt the beings on higher planets, i assume, fire body?
human
>Now, in this Earth, in this planet, earth is prominent. Anywhere, the body, material body, is made of these five elements: earth, water, fire, air and ether.
>Now, in this planet we have got this body which is where earth is very prominent. Similarly, in other planets, other planets, somewhere water is very prominent, somewhere fire is very prominent. In the sun planet, the bodies there... There are also living entities, but their body is so made that it is fiery. They can exist in the fire. They can exist in the fire. Similarly, Varuṇaloka, in the Venus, all these planets, they have got different types of body. Just like here you can experience that in the water the aquatics, they have got a different type of body.
>Prabhupada lecture, 3/11/66

>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We can accept that the soul is not burned, but what about the body?
>Prabhupāda: Body is burned.
>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So how can any body live in the sun?
>Prabhupāda: So they are.... No, if.... They have got fiery body. As your body is made of earth, the fish body is made of water, and the so many others, different elements, so similarly, there the body is made of earth..., er, fire, fiery body. The so-called scientist, educationist, they.... Everything they conclude according to his own position. Therefore avajānanti māṁ mūḍhāḥ (BG 9.11). They think Kṛṣṇa also 'like me.'
>Acyutānanda: The fish is in the water, but the fish is not water.
>Prabhupāda: No, fish is not water, but he has got a body suitable for the water.
>Acyutānanda: So the people on the sun have earthly bodies...
>Prabhupāda: Yes.
>Acyutānanda: ...who can tolerate heat.
>Prabhupāda: Yes. There is no heat. They live.... Just like.... They are not suffocated. They don't feel any inconvenience. They enjoy. Against the waves they enjoy. You cannot go against the waves. They can go, even small fish. You'll find within this there are so many animals, so many. How they are living?
>Morning walk 1/2/76
gpt
Things like this give me a conception that your material body will be made of elements suitable for the planet you are on.
I think people with 'higher' bodies are made of more subtle elements, but have access to the lower elements.
Elements in order from most gross to most subtle:
>Gita 7.4: Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego – all together these eight constitute My separated material energies.
Like, Surya-deva would have a body of fire, air, ether, and the mental/astral.
The denizens of the Moon (which is considered higher than the sun in Vedic cosmology) have bodies made of ether.
But both - if they desired - could manifest a body of more gross elements such that they could appear to someone with an earthly body.
Lord Brahmā has a body made completely of intelligence.
As you go 'below' human forms, the bodies start losing access to the more subtle elements.
Note - this does not affect the soul at all, just the ability of the soul's capability to shine through that body.
So animals start not exhibiting ego/identity, start not having access to intelligence, and when we get into plants and lower there is only the barest hint of mind.