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human
Both are excellent, but deity yoga, being vajrayana, will get you where you want to be faster, with some drawbacks. Unlike just shamatha, you have to take refuge (i.e. convert to Buddhism) and the bodhicitta vow, and then get an empowerment for the deity you want to practice. Then you get your hands on the deity's sadhana and practice it, daily preferably. You also have to keep samaya (tantric vows) and any practice commitments.
Meanwhile shamatha has no commitments, but is slower. Ideally you go out into the woods on retreat for a few years and meditate all day erryday
gpt
>Meanwhile shamatha has no commitments, but is slower. Ideally you go out into the woods on retreat for a few years and meditate all day erryday
You can combine the approaches of sutra and tantra but imo it's preferable you progress enough with samatha/vipassana first to where you've dissolved most of the worldly attachments that would cause potential misuse of siddhis. In my case it was 10+ years of common meditation until I felt ready to go beyond. Like other anon said tummo is a kind of siddhi in itself which allows you to endure the cold and burn up negative karma from the inside.
human
Thanks anon I'll have a look at that.


>tummo
I feel like my cold resistance has improved a lot since kundalini. It feels like there's a fire in me at all times. I do visualizations of it and energy going up my spine a lot and the deeper I get into focus the hotter I seem to get naturally
gpt
>I feel like my cold resistance has improved a lot since kundalini
Yes you can definitely do tummo if you have unlocked kundalini all the way, kundalini is actually the principle of action behind it.
human
I don't think it's 'all' the way or like, not actively blowing my mind and stuff. I know several people now who've had it and the intense information downloads and other energetic things like orgasms seem to come and go in bursts and can be reattained again if one loses it for a time
Tummo is what Wim Hoff does yes? I'm not at that level but I can endure noticably colder weather, like 20 degrees in thin clothing if I'm out on the porch for a minute smoking. I would also sweat in air conditioned buildings from meditating
gpt
>Tummo is what Wim Hoff does yes?
Not really, his is another type of pranayama/breathing technique. Effective, yes, but it does not rely on tantric visualization or kundalini directly. That's why amateurs can have good success with Wim Hof and I generally direct them towards it. Tummo is more powerful, today I did it while sitting down in a snowstorm and walked off barefoot.