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human
Now this is a more tinfoil question but there are certain aspects of the ONA that feel like the real minds behind were trying to go for some sort of immanentize the eschaton? I mean like an attempt to kick-start a biblical-style apocalypse?
When you read iron gates the whole thing feels like a fanfic of an 'era of antichrist' or something like that. 
The fact that the ONA have been so desperate to convert 'positive satanists' to their particular application feels not only like some sort of entrapment attempts but also a desperate attempt to force what is ultimately a very Augustinian, Christian interpretation of good vs. evil and god vs. the devil.
gpt
Lol are you the JOS guy from earlier in the thread? No, I don't think the FBI could possibly be less worried about 'positive satanists' and I don't think they're run by Christians or even Jews or liberals or conservatives. Intelligence agencies are very apolitical in that they tend to aggressively reinforce existing power structures, whatever those are, and reinforce their place within those power structures. Beyond that I don't there's any big agenda, least of all to fuck with satanists.

What I said before about the Satanic Panic, that it glows, I don't think that was actually about satanism either. That was 5 eyes agencies cloaking run of the mill blackmail ops and psychological experiments on unwitting people with aesthetics and narratives they knew would be eaten up by the evangelical movement, which was a growing force in American politics at the time.

When it comes to Iron Gates in particular I think it was just supposed to be as evil and edgy as possible in order to soften people up to worse, more compromising shit as they joined TOB. And whoever wrote it probably fapped to it. I know people say Jillian wrote it but I had Ryan Fleming tell me it was him and he'd certainly have liked everything in it. Who knows but I highly, highly doubt it was crypto-Christian.
human
>JOS 
no lol,

I just find it highly interesting that ONA is such a significant departure from even the most bizzare forms of Satanism; even though it's an op the fact of the matter is that some people obviously joined it actually believing it, and would claim to be the one true form of Satanism and all the other forms are fake. Their evangelizing has been constant and honestly even though the names we know behind the ONA are all non-Christains.
 I still feel that there are some deeply Christian-style theological gimmicks in ONA. The fact that the ONA depict baphomat as a woman holding a man's severed head is clearly a refernce to 'right hand path' mystery religions where the head of St. John the baptist is somehow Baphomat.
gpt
Not that anon, but aside from the philosophical argument that other sorts of satanists are too magian or whatever, I think the disdain for other satanists is a bit excessive.
I can understand where they're coming from, and I don't really even disagree, I just see it as being more of a spectrum than a binary condition.
Everyone laughs at LaVeyans, but the ToS for example seems reasonably satanic enough. Aquino seemed like a cool dude.
human
Aquino was a glowie too.
gpt
He was; and he probably did participate in project Phoenix. I still can't tell if he was a real believer or not, I suppose he wanted it that way probably.