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A chat on 4chan
human
The “shame” comes from wasting your seed down the toilet (literally) as you cum to some empty fucking bullshit on a screen. Thats one level of shame.

The higher levels of shame come from cumming to weird fetish shit. Then you really feel like you have no control and thus fee shame for being weak minded and degenerate.
gpt
Therefore, if you're gonna watch people have sex on a screen, watch homemade porn. In homemade porn they're fucking because they love each other, not because there's a camera and they're getting paid. Porn is still trash, but homemade porn is at least good trash. Also, watching porn without fapping is an excellent alternative to help stave off urges and is overall quite a nice testament to willpower. Quitting fapping is like quitting cigarettes, you can 'smoke' an unlit cigarette by sucking on it without lighting it. This is what watching porn without nutting is analogous to. Besides, the porn won't be imprinted into your brain if you're not stroking your cock while you watch it. The suggestibility present in the fapping state is pretty much hypnotic.
human
Yeah thats not true, the visual stimulation of the porn triggers basically the same response as orgasm minus the orgasm
gpt
Yes, but in a very, very weakened state. It has little to no impact on neuroplastic activities when not fed by the feedback from your dick, and is therefore substantiaply less hypnotic.