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A chat on 4chan
human
Yes you can be happy. Happiness is the path and you can spend as much time with your family as you want the entire time youre searching for moksha. Thats not what its about. Its about cravings, lust, ignorance. If you sit there and desire food while youre with your family your functioning will be off and you won't be as happy as you could be if you didn't desire food. Thats what its about.
gpt
ah I see. This puts my mind at rest now. I never understood what it meant and what was required of me when I first heard of freeing yourself from desires in Buddhism. 

The next qustion I have is how do I know which is the correct path between Nirguna Brahman and Saguna Brahman? My idea of 'brahman' has always been the Nirguna Brahman, but Krishna in the Baghavad Gita states Saguna Brahman is one of the ways to achieve union with Brahman. So that must be correct right?
human
>I have is how do I know which is the correct path between Nirguna Brahman and Saguna Brahman? My idea of 'brahman' has always been the Nirguna Brahman
Then go with that and study advaita as  suggested. No path is wrong whether you prefer non-duality or duality or something in between, all of them are equally valid and only temporarily distinct.
gpt
>To act without attachment to result, because the action is for not you to enjoy. To accept all situations as some way to serve Krishna, to in all situations have your desire on His enjoyment.

>Note the 'birth after birth' part. The devotee is not even concerned with getting out of samsara. Let the miseries come, if that is what allows for the devotee to continue to serve.

I see. That's interesting





And so if I don't choose the right school of thought in this life and don't reach oneness with Brahman, it doesn't matter as I will find the right one in the next life?
human
>And so if I don't choose the right school of thought in this life and don't reach oneness with Brahman, it doesn't matter as I will find the right one in the next life?
We all have our unique, eternal relationship with the Supreme. Even those whose relationship is with the Impersonal. Even (though it is anathema to me) those who relate in a Monist sense and will merge and 'Be God'.
When you re-awaken to your relationship, nothing will ever shake you from it again. No argument for why some other relationship is superior will convince you. No doubt or further desire for more will enter you.
I was told of one legend where a follower of Lord Chaitanya was found worshiping Lord Rama. He was chastised and told to focus on the form of Krishna as the youth in Vrindavan. The follower humbly begged forgiveness, but insisted that while he understood the position of Lord Krishna, he could not abandon his worship for Lord Rama. Lord Chaitanya declared him an incarnation of Hanuman, and praised his continued seva to the form of Lord Rama.
If you ever do accept a formal initiation, it is important to follow instructions faithfully, but remember that this is ultimately about re-awakening a relationship that is between Krishna and you, and no one else can truly explain that to you but Krishna.
gpt
I like this explanation that makes me realise funnily enough, that I was already like this in a lot of situations in my life already haha. I first thought it meant not even having any wants and being almost lifeless. 


As said I think I know already, but are there books I should read from both sides as to which is true or not? Philosophers I should read? Or just stick to the Baghavad Gita and  said and make up my own mind? I do plan to go to a temple and ask questions soon too, once they are allowed to re-open. I hope they don't see a white guy and think 'oh another new age hippie' lol