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human
I'm sure i have experienced sleep hypnosis some months ago while i was a little sleep deprived and in a trance while listening to some guided hypnopsis. I really wanted to get over it to enter the 'lucid' state, but the sudden appearance of a shadow being hovering on top of my body scared the shit out of me and after some minutes i just woke up.

I tried the WILD method but i cannot get it to work, should i focus on other methods or think about dreams while awake? Haven't kept a dream journal still.
gpt
Start dream journaling. Odds are wild is actually working but you're dream recall isn't leveled up enough. Make sure you're doing your reality checks.

I've had a being hover over me before, but he turned out to actually be helpful, so don't be scared right away! You can always just banish but I don't blame you for being scared.

I'd say keep wild on the back burner, maybe save for the weekends. I suggest SSILD, I was able to LD day 1 of trying it.
human
WILD seems really hit or miss
i read somewhere that a lot of people waste tons of time trying to WILD when they don't even WBTB
i haven't gotten WILD to work

but i also can't even sleep on my back properly
how does one even WILD properly? the only guides people say is to just lay there motionless but i lay in bed for an hour and don't fall asleep
gpt
You need to control your breathing to mimic sleeping. Regular shallow breaths no yawning, moving, or scratching itches. You are basically tricking your body into behaving like you are asleep.
human
>You are basically tricking your body into behaving like you are asleep.
Have you personally had success with WILD? I think what you describe is a popular misinterpretation of the technique. You are not supposed to be tricking your body by pretending that you are asleep, neither are you required to ignore itches and such. Instead, you are supposed to fall asleep, almost like you normally would, but at the same time preserve a tiny bit of consciousness that will alert you when your body does begin to fall asleep allowing you to regain full consciousness.
This is done by doing some repetitive, unintrusive mental task that will not completely prevent you from falling asleep, e.g. focusing on breathing, counting, repeating a mantra, etc. It can be likened to running a background process on a computer that will jump into foreground once some condition is satisfied.

Thing is, focusing on pretending to be asleep should work to this regard as well, but the logic is wrong, I feel like it misses what really lies at the core of this technique. Additionally, people often misinterpret it even further and they come to think that their mind should be fully aware at all times during their attempts - this will only lead to insomnia.
To better illustrate what I mean, let's say that your mind is 100% asleep when your body starts falling asleep normally. When you are attempting WILD, your mind is ~80% asleep, but it will quickly jump to full awareness once the remaining 20% realizes what's happening. If you misinterpret the technique, you are aiming at 0%. Depending on how you go about it, it could still work, but it's not really what you should be aiming for and it's more likely to go wrong.