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human
Modern astrologers tend to emphasize the importance of the outer planets and relate to them more, but I personally think that they're less relevant most of the time compared to the original seven. As such, I don't really treat them as having rulerships or exaltation, and I stick to the traditional rulership scheme instead, which has Saturn ruling Aquarius and Jupiter ruling Pisces. I also don't really do 'dominants' in my assessments, even though I don't necessarily disagree with the practice, simply because I view it as more superfluous information which confirms what we can already tell about a chart on its surface, which is that certain planets are placed more prominently in a horoscope, and so the native is defined more by them than by the others.

With all this said, I think I gave a partial description of Uranus in my last post, so I'll just finish that here. Uranus signifies defiance, destruction, rapidity, obliteration, catastrophe, sudden bursts of explosive energy and potential, and in elements, he is identified with lightening, and electricity. Wherever Uranus is, he is opposed to all stable structures and will seek to overturn them, and whenever he is associated with a major trigger by transit or timing technique, he acts like a lightening bolt striking he situation with explosive energy. The very planet itself is tilted on its axis 90 degrees and rotates vertically rather than horizontally, such that it spins sideways from our perspective, and its orbit is extremely erratic. Thus Uranus represents things which defy the norm and are defined by being unique and different, whether that means their difference makes them deficient or exceptional makes no difference, for the planet values defiance for its own sake. Thus he creates incoherence and discord by his innate nature, and while he may also define one by their unique excellence or make positive changes through defiance, he does tend to be more troublesome, thus the label of malefic.
gpt
Uranus sounding kinda Luciferian rn ngl
I find it funny that his greeco-roman mythy equivalent or w/e is Eros, father sky, father of Cronus and the Titans, Cronus being Saturn. Not sure this really notes anything but I've always thought it interesting. I can't say I've made many explosive changes in my life but internally I feel I defy norms even if outer observation may seem like I live by them. My Aquarius sun Capricorn moon friend would go into shops when younger and just crack open the paints and make big circles on the floor before walking out. What you're saying clicks, especially since I have myself and my feelings as a aqua moon for reference and my friends visible actions as a aqua sun for reference. Thank you TF don't be a stranger come next thread
human
One thing I was thinking in your chart is you seem like someone who would resonate with Saturn more. You are a Saturn-ruled ascendant with Moon in a Saturn-ruled sign, and you have Saturn in a nice position in the fifth and copresent with Jupiter no less. It would certainly fit with your Virgo Sun since Virgo and Saturn have a lot of the same personality characteristics, especially when Saturn is well-configured. 

If you wanted to know what I think is relevant about the mythology associated with Uranus, it's that Cronus is the usurper of Uranus and cut his balls off to force him to get off the Earth and become the sky. Thus mytholgically, Cronus and Saturn are oppositional to each other, and if you think about it both of them are ringed planets with totally oppositional significations, so even astronomically they're both commenting on the same things, they're just representing diametrically opposed orientations to them.
gpt
The order of operations of usurping is something like this right
>Uranus oppresses mother Gaia and their offspring
>Cronus castrates Uranus, freeing his kin
>Cronus out of fear of usurpation eats his offspring
>Jupiter escapes this fate and slices Cronus's belly, freeing his kin
And then I suppose the Olympians coalesce into One or something
Are you saying they're two sides of the same coin? I consciously try not to associate with Saturn, despite an undeniable resonance. It's the sign of melancholy and further represented by the reaper and father time after all. There's a rigidity associated with it rather than a fluidity associated with Uranus. The only reason I resonate with Uranus so much is bc I've taught myself and learned with Uranus ruling Aquarius. I don't deny Saturn's influence though, as even mythologicaly it's violently present. It simply makes more sense for my mental organization to have each planetary body in our system associated with its own distinct sign, and each sign a prominent mythological figure. Both Demeter and Persephone representing Virgo to me. But I can see how this way of thinking could be a over simplification. You have done your studies TF where I anon have been merely absorbing and intuiting information
human
Saturn does many malefic things, but as the lord of time, he also creates lasting things and things made to stand the test of time. A man signified by Saturn is resilient, forward thinking, and a master of his craft. Many of the good things in life come through Saturn, which is to say they come by time, and he gives gifts in proportion to our suffering. There is great bitterness in identifying with Saturn, but there is also much worthwhile, and it is no mean thing to be identified by him. On the contrary, when it is well-configured it bears the promise of greatness.
gpt
Ty TF. It seems to me Saturn can be either the stoic or the authoritarian, and ofc even a blend. 

Definitely someone avoiding it. I hardly talked at all in school to the point where a running gag from peers was to suddenly say 'anon just shut up already!' bc I'd be so silent yet present. Fame in a lot of ways has always seemed an unfortunate and rarely fully fulfilled fate to me and I detest the idolatry of modern fame and it's myriad faces so I agree with you, and I agree with other anon in the sense that I often *dream* of having an affect on the world broadly. Key word being dream as is the sun trine neptune aspect