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human
You should learn the methods naturally before starting these drugs though. 
Otherwise, Take melatonin and mugwort before bed to charge your fuel. Then use Galatamine/Huperzine + Valerian Root with the WBTB method.

The Gal/hupe will make you lucid in your final rem cycles so you will always wake up in paralysis/high vibrations, and can continuously AP or enter a lucid dream from that point over and over.

Also I dont recommend them for daytime medicinal use, too many uncomfortable side effects
gpt
>You should learn the methods naturally before starting these drugs though.
Yeah but here's the thing, I think I've actually projected once randomly a long time ago when I was sleeping. And I think I came close a few times earlier this year, even after not having attempted it that many times. It looks like I have good potentiality, whatever I was doing I think I'm on the right track. I think I was making good quick progress, but I just haven't been feeling very collected and I've been having issues concentrating. I haven't really been able to do anything at all cause of it. My progress has been stalled. Not to mention these issues concentrating are hindering my daily life, but that's not my point. What my point is though is I think I need to use a crutch for a while. I wish I can figure out how to sort out this difficulty concentrating once and for all though.

Thanks for the advice though. I think my main issue is I wasn't able to will myself hard enough to project whenever I came close. Also I'm not that good at holding certain thoughts. It's not necessarily that I get distracted, I just kinda forget or lose track of what precisely I was thinking about. Do you have any advice for how to increase concentration or willpower?
human

>melatonin
>mugwort
>Galatamine
>Huperzine
>Valerian Root
Also I forgot to ask, but where can I find this stuff at? Do you have any specific recommendations for any vendors?
gpt
Yeah, what you have to understand is you are just planting the seeds the now, It might take a week or two but your desire to project will come true. All that matters is that you plant the seeds now and learn the methods.


Im USA so I just buy off amazon, I dont know which country you are in
human
Yeah, if anything I plan to eventually wean myself off using any substances.

I'm also in the US. Do you have any specific users you buy them from or do you just buy them from anyone as long as it seems legit?
gpt
I heard lucidimine was great, some anons recommended it here a few weeks ago and it's got very good reviews as well.

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