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human
you did left hand path magic, and were nowhere near ready for it.


i've done reverse energy vampirism ie gave lifeforce away to others. healed my grandmother from total heart failure with it, went from 'say goodbye theres nothing we can do' to getting a pacemaker fitted. price was nerve and joint damage in my own body, and arthritis which lasted for 2 years- exactly how long her life was extended by.

the moral of the story- all magic has a cost somewhere, either be prepared to pay it or know how to pass it on (protip- you usually cant)
gpt
So wether it’s for helping or hurting others it’s still negative for you, that kinda sucks. What if I ask an angel or other entity to do it for me, will there be consequences then?
human
>What's the price for non-reverse energy vampirism?
Uncertain, never tried it myself as it's black/LHP magic.
>could it be less if you make a proper physical offering?
You always pay a price. From my dabbling in sacrificial magic, you cannot achieve a result that is greater than the value of the sacrifice.
If your offering is worth less to you than your goal, it won't work. I believe this is the secret to child sacrifice- those who indulge this practice do NOT WANT to pay that price, but it achieves their equally valued goals.
So you can make an offering to try offset the price, but either the result will be diminished, or you'll still pay the same price just fragmented.
>Where do you gatekeepers get access to that kind of magic?
Not a gatekeeper. I've studied esotericism indepth for sometime, was introduced to it years ago via martial arts mysticism from very rational, sensible people. Study as much as you can from as many traditions, find commonalities & try them. What I've found to be universal-TRUE belief is an essential component- on a gut level, not 'I think this will work', not telling yourself. The universe/God(s)/whatever knows if you don't really believe. Other universal- nothing is free, the greater the boon the greater the price.

Can you outline your injury/desired goal a bit more? It's possible you would heal the problem but suffer another affliction, or otherwise see comparable suffering in someone close to you.

>So wether it’s for helping or hurting others it’s still negative for you
Nothing is free, but it will teach you a few things about yourself- namely, what you really value and prioritise, and the measure of the man you are. Done correctly it can actually be used to purge yourself of vices.
>What if I ask an angel or other entity to do it for me
I recently bought a book on John Dee, I plan to read it then buy one/all of his actual books of Enochian magic. Until then, I don't know.
gpt
Spells don't exist the way you think they do.
All spells and rituals are symbolic gestures of belief, will, and sacrifice.
What matters is the belief and will. Going through ritual is a way to scaffold, reinforce or ingrain belief. Sigil magic is the same- charging a signal is just association of belief with action, releasing the signal is delivering the action to confirm the belief. It is a method of subverting conscious and subconscious processes which normally inhibit us from believing things intrinsically without proof- a way of short-circuiting all those pesky voices that tell you 'no' or 'this isn't real'.
The reason monks, yogi, shamans etc. are attributed to be capable of great feats of mysticism, to possess natural cosmic awareness equivalent to a DMT trip etc., is simply they have trained and honed their mind and belief enough that they simply can believe without needing trappings of ritual.

Sacrifice is the only real form of 'spell'. Which I already outlined here . If you want to achieve something, you must be prepared to lose something of equal value.
OP likely accidentally conducted a sacrificial ritual. Probably thought something at some point about what he would be willing to give up/lose for this end result.
To put them back together, he would have to a- actually WANT this, b- believe this will happen, and c- be willing to accept he may lose something to achieve this. And he can't want them back together to fix his eye, the universe will know. Sincere intent matters.
This is why you shouldn't mess around with LHP stuff. It will always end in ways you don't want.