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human
It is simple. Eliminated free will. There. No more suffering. Now. Why do you have free will in the first place? Oh well. All go back to the one true religion. Hahaha.
gpt
The elimination of free will still allows for desire/operation. A being can be programmed to act a certain way through his/her environment and genetics and therefore will still exercise action and cause reactions. The elimination of free will only eliminates the idea of accountability. I don’t believe we have free will in the first place, only the illusion of choice. We are simply, like most things, a reaction, to a prior actions/reaction, leading back to the initial cause/action. Therefore only in the first action ever, was freewill exercised
human
No, you have free will alright. In the first act of freewill. Humans chose power. To not become ignorant. What's the different between you and a dog? Knowledge. The power of knowledge. Humans can be as ignorant as an ape, and live just fine without worry. But because of intellect. You are worrying about all kind of shit.
gpt
This is untrue. Animals also suffer. The difference between man and lower conscious beings is our capacity/understanding of suffering. What you’re trying to break it down to is existence vs. non-existence. I think therefore i am. Awareness/non-awareness. Animals suffer but may suffer less because they have less awareness. However, our higher level of awareness does not prove the existence of us having free will. It only allows us to understand how or why things unfolded. Not choose how they do.
human
What can a dog do when it get trapped in a cage? Nothing. It can only whine and cry until someone or something break it. But Humans? We can break the cage solve the puzzle and free ourselve from it.
gpt
I’m not sure how this relates to free will at all friend. That only shows humans are intelligent but does nothing to display free will. Are you trying to say free will is not the ability to choose, but the ability to have a wider range of choices compared to other beings? If so you would basically be saying that all beings have free will, but humans have, more free will than dogs because humans can make more complex decisions than dogs.? I’m proposing that neither have free will, regardless of complexity. Complexity doesn’t prove free will. A robot designed to play chess has no more free will than a frog that can’t escape a box with no lid. You’re equating complexity of reaction, with free will. Free will entails that a being can choose. I’m saying humans, dogs and robots are all programmed to choose, through external and internal boundaries. In fact time itself disproves free will. Humans have a past and future, if humans have a future, then those choices are already made and cannot be undone. Just as the past is set in stone so too is the future. Abrahamic prophecies show this as well, where a prophecy says xyz will happen with no doubt. This disproves free will. You cant have an unchanging future, yet have free will. In real life, not religious semantics, free will is disproven again by cause and effect, time, and such factors as genetics, environment etc