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human
I never said it was crazy you dork
This is what I mean: 
Just as everyone has their individual and distinct 'natal chart' in astrology, so to everyone likely has their individual and distinct relationship and experience with DMT, or even these 'machine elf' 'thought forms'.
It sound so bizarre to you bc you are not Terrence McKenna, and if you were to tell him about your DMT experiences, he would find the story and your beliefs very bizarre as well
gpt
To further explain, I suspect the 'DMT realm' is un-mapable. Look at the varied discourse and told experiences just in this thread. Some literally believe them to be demonic evil spirits, the classic B&W view, but when they say this it's clear at the least they had a 'bad trip'. 
I think everyone experiences such intellable and varied wackadoody wahwah when tripping off DMT that people just project their solitary experience and expect other people will find themselves stepping into the same situation. And I think Terrence did this as well with the dangerous affect of him having a large mass of people listening to him eagerly.
human
>I suspect the 'DMT realm' is un-mapable
it's fairly mappable. the problem is in the fact that navigation is not exactly how you'd think, and my map will be different than yours.
an analogy would be like this: say, hypothetically, cartographers 10,000 years ago had access to the same tools that modern maps use. topography, satellite - you name it. they make a map of the world, and put it in storage. now, in present day, you happen across that map - it's of the same 'locations' but you would, for the most part, think that whoever made the map was way wrong and not accurate.
it's hard for me to explain because i'm not very smart, but basically it's an idea that needs to exist independent of constraints of time and what we see as the material existence.
read about indra's web, bardo thodol, that's some insight on it. one key is to also stop thinking about it as a separate realm than ours, they aren't fully independent of each other in my opinion
gpt
I'm guessing I shouldn't just Google astral plane and watch the tiktok videos that pop-up, could you give me a lead or directly tell me something to be read?

I like to think I get what you're saying. Everyone's compass spins on DMT? Same land but, different landscape? 
And yes I suspect the 'above' and 'below' are different lenses viewing into the same mechanism of life, to the point to where I suspect it could reach out and touch you physically in ways. 
Ol' TMcK has a story of DMT tripping, having a wild adrenaline spike when someone bursted through his front door mid-peak, and the spinning geometry was floating in his room and the elves hanging off of his arms. The sentiment I imagined from the situation is this: 'We're Here now. Bet you never expected that! What else could we do, you wonder?'

Ah, so it's likely the elves/jesters are in fact a constant, whether or not you happen to encounter them on a trip or not?