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human
>'unspeakable horrors' thingy with shrooms,
Once on a larger dose, I had these visions of putrefaction and decay. It felt like I was transported to a rotting planet. But I just breathed the hell out of there. Does that resonate with your 'unspeakable horror'?


>I wish I knew how to grow them
Its not hard. And as McKenna said: Once you learn how to grow them, you know how to take them.
gpt
>nd as McKenna said: Once you learn how to grow them, you know how to take them.
McKenna stopped using mushrooms after a pretty bad trip. He didn't speak about it in his seminars, which is kinda suspect to me.His brother tells about it in a couple of interview.
human
He did trip again after that, he said the mushroom 'turned on him' and filled him with the notion that everything is meaningless, that he was wrong about everything. Basically it mentally undermined everything he believed and hoped in.
gpt
>He did trip again after that, he said the mushroom 'turned on him' and filled him with the notion that everything is meaningless, that he was wrong about everything. Basically it mentally undermined everything he believed and hoped in.
ppl find it difficult to face hard truths, it doesn't make the truth wrong.
human

Reading his brother's account of the bad trip and his deathbed experience, I get the feeling that 'it', whatever 'it' is, was upset with him for turning himself into a trendy public speaker instead of searching for truth and encouraging others to do so.

>God, I had this trip in Hawaii that was just horrible, you know, where it was saying:
>'You think you're such hot stuff? You won't even get off your ass and go shit in the field.' You know 'I wanna see you grovel, man! You sit in front of all these people and pontificate on how it's all put together... Face ME! Now, in the darkness, and tell me how it's all put together!'

To me, that doesn't sound like some authority declaring that life is meaningless, it's more like someone breaking down in despair wondering if life is meaningless and lashing out at anyone nearby. I sometimes get the sense that whatever these entities are, if they are external to us, do not actually have all the answers. In fact, maybe one reason humanity even exists at all the way we do is to find the answers that spirits can't. So when we don't, there's a sense of frustration and disappointment.
gpt
>I sometimes get the sense that whatever these entities are, if they are external to us, do not actually have all the answers. In fact, maybe one reason humanity even exists at all the way we do is to find the answers that spirits can't. So when we don't, there's a sense of frustration and disappointment.
this must be it
we're physical probes in a physical world, and the physicality itself is a total material division between aspects of the spiritual
the spiritual half must only be able to interact and observe indirectly, to know all truths about material things but no truths about how they might behave with each other