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human
>The round square is not a contradiction, because it doesn't exist in the concrete world you can see, but it is REAL as an abstract idea. Numbers are real, but they do not exist in the concrete world. The number 5 does not exist physically, but it does exist. This is the same for the round square.
This is a very interessting thought experiment, doesn't this actually make the possiblity of a simulation more real?
gpt
it doesn't really matter since we will never be able to know, at least not in life. i think it's just important that you take a stance and either you believe that it is a simulation and that the concrete world is not real or you do the opposite, then you go from there and consider the implications of reality.

I think that everything that is both concrete and abstract is just the cosmos, god, the simulation, or whatever you want to call it subdivided into fractions that make up what we experience. We are a very small part of it just as everything else is.
human

It isn't either or. It is both in some ways. It is like wet concrete, and by being observed, it solidifies, but the observer also has a small impact on its formation, but we are all doing it. However God has the final say in what it is, unless he delegates that authority.
gpt
please help me understand, infinite amounts of properties and objects exist encoded in the abstract
the abstract is therefore in some way the building blocks of our physical reality, but where do the limitations we have on our concrete reality come from?
why can't an object be a round square?
why can't a man be dead and alive?

is the abstract god or the cosmos or simulation or whatever, and the concrete it's creation?
if so, when i die, since i am real even in the abstract, do i go there? am i code?
human
if you're meditating, then you're doing so for the purpose of exercising your attention control muscle
and then you complain about getting the chance to really exert that muscle?
you don't make sense!

>why can't a man be dead and alive?
Are you like Schrodinger's Cat?
Schrodinger's Cat is in the box and it is both alive AND dead at the exact same time.
If you never open the box, if you wait for the cat to exit the box by itself, then the cat never stops being alive.
But if you peak into the box, then you might kill the cat!
gpt
I'm talking about the round-square copula and how objects that are encoded in abstract can have properties that contradict our physical reality. But why does our physical reality have those contradictions when the encoded ones do not?