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A chat on 4chan
human
If you believe it, and experience it, its true to you. Why do you want to debunk when its all subconsciousness? Is it because you are miserable you cant achieve the same state?
gpt
I am indeed miserable and I indeed cannot achieve the same state. When I make posts like this my actualy objective is that someone will come along who can absolutely BTFO me and force me to see that shifting realities is actually possible.
human
You cant be disproven, science will not support the contrary. You need to revert back to an infantile stage where your imagination was real, and then it will become real. And you will see a world you did not think was possible, like me, who was already an experienced lucid dreamer.
When I AP the first time, it was life changing,
when I shifted the first time it was life changing. There is so much out there more than just Wake and dream and logic.
gpt
Are you just bullshitting me or what? I've been trying my absolute hardest to shift to and stay in another alternate reality for like a month now and nothing. How the fuck do I know if I'm doing it right and how long am I expected to wait before it actually works? I just want out man please what the fuck am I doing wrong
human
The Afinef here.
From another anon: I see you've updated my technique. Nice job! 
I never understood why people make leaving their body so difficult. You hit the nail on the head-all you have to do is get into that void state. If you get those hypnagogic colours, the brighter they get the more stable your leave will be. Another important thing is making sure that you don't fuck with the vision too much when you first go out. Your concentration is pretty weak, so it's more likely to collapse. 

This seems like what it would be for most people but also be patient as it is really rather simple for Me, so I kind of 
forgot how to manually start.

Shifting isn’t AP though. Shifting is more like sailing to a destination in the universal ocean instead of just drifting through possibilities in your vessel.

Have you the heavenly chariot? If you don’t know what that means go watch some Spirit Science on YouTube, that’s a great resource.
gpt
Okay, what is the procedure for getting into the void state? Do I have to concentrate on the concept of a void or something? How do you even do that?