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human
Assuming this isn't a joke, you didn't understand what you read at all. These books forbid cooming altogether, including over sigils or otherwise. Switch to Crowley or something. The High Magic of the Ur Group is not for you.
gpt
>These books forbid cooming altogether
Even during sex?
human
To clarify, I should say I use 'forbidden' in an amoral technical sense. The method of these books is semen retention and ascesis in general, as a means to the end of initiatic transformation and, ultimately, total freedom.


Intro (Godwin) Vol. II, pp. 337-8.
>There is in man a principle of magic virility that is struck, hurt and absorbed when he gives in to desire and mindlessly pours himself into the female substance. And where he most thinks himself a man, and that he is possessing woman by embracing and losing himself in her, it is there, I tell you, that he surrenders his occult virility and gives in to the current of the Waters.


Since the first philosopher. If you don't understand the Four Elements, you don't understand anything. This is why Agrippa begins with a treatment of that very subject.
gpt
>The method of these books is semen retention and ascesis in general
i think it's a little more complex than that. not everything is about cooming.
what about the part where it suggests that you deliberately subject yourself to physical pain, increasing your level of detachment from the boy as you increase the level of pain? or the part where they talk about plunging downward through the center of the being? or the translation from gustav meyrink talking about drifting 'from awakening to awakening?'

these could certainly be interpreted as recommending some anti-ascetic practices. i dont think its all about semen but none of these ideas seem to entail that you cant jerk off. Like i said before, different parts of intro to magic are directed at different individuals on distinct spiritual paths. its a holistic exposition not a systematic philosophy.

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human
>from the boy
*from the body 
hah thatss a fkn awkward typo.
gpt
Hee-hee