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human
no, because I was the agent, it didn't just happen.
gpt
Of course you're the agent, you manifest everything you experience
human
you don't get it.
With the ladder experiment, the ladder appears in some way.
In this case, she didn't text me, I did. That's not manifesting, that's just doing things.
Difference between magic and work.
gpt
You are misunderstanding the law. It's not a looney tunes mallet space trick. You manifest your world, which includes your body, which includes your mind, your ideas and actions. The law is not just responsible for things that seem to appear out of thin air.
human
This. Let's say a girl breaks up with you. She tells you she never wants to speak to you or see you again. You work on your self-concept and change your view of how she sees you. You text her after a few weeks, you end up reconciliating, you get together and live happily ever after. That's still a manifestation even though you took conventional action (texting her). Your state was congruent with you being in a happy relationship with her, so that's what you got. If you were in the wrong state, she would've ignored or rejected you.
gpt
I understand what he means, the law is definitely pushed as a form of magic problem solver and it sure seems like it, so when mundane things happen in a way that is easy to conceive it doesn't look like 'manifesting'. But even if the law only worked in that magical way, if we were to rationalise events and point out how it's just people doing shit normally, we can perform that exercise to infinity until we reach something that wasn't voluntary (1. I decided to do x because 2. something put me in a state of mind in which I wanted to do x because 3. an unrelated event put me in that state of mind because 4. someone else did that unrelated event because....)