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human
I have two general points to make in response. 
First, to the many variations of the argument 'look at the structure of the universe/reality! This has to mean there's a god'. What would a godless universe even look like? We have a universe survey sample size one 1. We have no way of being able to compare our existence with any other. When you call this universe 'finely tuned', what are you referring to? The fact that life was able to form? This presupposes life is special in some way. On our planet it seems common, but as far as we can see right now, this is the only planet in a huge vastness of nothing, a mere speck, that happens to support life. I'm more willing to remark on the specialness of life than the universe, because we can at least see that across other celestial bodies, the self perpetuating chemical reaction of life happens to exist only here. If you are instead calling physics finely tuned and reality/time having a beginning of an end, what are you even talking about? As it stands, scientists are finding that special substances in outer space, along with very very small particles, practically ignore the laws of physics we observe in our daily lives. The thing is though, we still only have *one* version of physics we can study. We don't have any 'meta' of universe designs we can compare ours to, so we have no objective frame of experience we can use to declare whether or not our universe is 'finely tuned'. 
Second, there's not enough empirical records of Jesus for us to confirm the supernatural circumstances told of him. I'm willing to believe that there was a historical person many people worshipped and believed to be saintly, but none of the miracles he performed can be viewed today. If he (or god I guess) wanted to provide a simple everlasting proof of their existence, why not create some unique object that can be easily recognized by anyone as having utterly unique properties? (continued)
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How about a bottle of water that refills itself? How about a tree that cannot be burnt or cut? Surely, there must have been some everlasting object that could past the test of time as proof of the celestial? I'm willing to acknowledge that if something like this did exist that some powerful shadow council controlling the world could just have it in their office as a paper weight, but no one (I've heard of) has made any claims like this. Our reality can be generally said to function through patterns- laws of physics, rules about life, gravity, etc. so the easiest way to provide prove of aliens/god/your mom's cock would be to present an object that clearly (and measurably) breaks most/all known laws of reality- and you'd think if a deity cared so much about people believing in their existence, they would at least make it easy. If there is a god and the bible is generally true, then if god's consciousness even *slightly* compares to the way a human thinks, they must have serious self-doubt issues and have serious anger problems. If they then demand worship from an entire species they made while only providing minor evidence to a handful of the billions of (in ways that could not be tested later) then that would be gaslighting on a celestial fuckin level. The claims you make are unconvincing and even if true, do not in any way prove that your interpretation of a creator deity is real. The historical Jesus christ was a cult leader that did some magic tricks that impressed uneducated goat farmers. He generally preached universally good things but christianity has been a moral circlejerk since the last person to have personally known the historical Jesus passed away some time in the first or second century C.E.
human
>circlejerk
>historical Jesus