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>>Is it not just a vivid lucid dream?
>No. A full successful astral projection/shift/oobe feels just as, and often even more real than the waking reality you're experiencing right now. The difference between this and even extremely vivid lucid dreams is absolutely huge.
You might want to elaborate on this answer. There is nothing preventing a lucid dream from being extremely vivid and lifelike. I've had many lucid dreams that felt more 'real' than reality. Then again, both the astral projection and reality shifting technique sounds like your run-of-the-mill lucid dreaming techniques to me, so maybe I was 'astral projecting' or 'reality shifting' all along. At least according to your definition.
gpt
they just sound the same on paper. when it happens you'll know