system
A chat on 4chan
human
'Denying oneself certain things with 'will power' is an indulgence and I don't recommend anything of the kind. The indulgence of denying is by far the worst; it forces us to believe we are doing great things, when in effect we are only fixed within ourselves.'
gpt
I see little value in things like ill will and lust, it's something that mostly arises in me from outside forces, ignorance or in culture and media. For that I'm not denying myself of anything, I'm trying my best to not be taken advantage of. So I don't see your point.
human
it's a quote. From a book. It is not a dogma, more point of contemplation

Desire arises in your mind, naturally. Provocation may be external, but we live in the world and are of the world, we are not separate entities. 

I guess I have no point. It is complicated topic and I don't have ready made 100% working solutions
gpt
the problem only arises if people deny themselves something they genuinely value, and I do not value lust, gluttony or ill will, yet I can fall into it because of ignorance and trickery. 
This isn't denial or indulgence, it's trying to not be ignorant or animal-like.