Interview with Frank Smith (Big Black)  Tell me what it was like
in terms of getting a shower, having to just use toilet paper.
There's nothing too much that you could do no more than just
wait, or, or hope you get lucky or some way to get on some kind
of recreational list on the weekend in order to get more than
one shower. You know, shower, getting more than one shower is a
problem, you know. As far as the police are, as far as the
facility is concerned, the institution is concerned, there's no
problem as far as the water or the availability of a shower, its
there but it just wasn't, it just wasn't a thing that they would
give you more than one shower per week, you know, and as far as
the toilet paper, you get one, one roll of toilet paper and that
lasts until it give out or until the police, until you can get
someone, you know, to swag, that mean another fellow inmate that
can get access to a roll of toilet paper, possibly to get a roll
out the police's toilet, ah, they bathroom, because they got
three,