  OCTOBER 25, 1993    Segment 5 - October 25, 1993, Irvine,
California - Video Tape  WHITACRE:           Fourteen thousand
tons.  ANDREAS:            So we got fourteen thousand tons of
growth.  YAMADA:             Yeah.  ANDREAS:            In one
year.  YAMADA:             Yeah.  ANDREAS:            So the
question is who gets that growth.  YAMADA:             Yeah.
ANDREAS:            That's for, it doesn't matter whether we
believe each other or not,                     that that's how
much growth there's gonna be.  If it's, if the market's
two thirty, it's gonna be thirteen thousand.  If the market's
two fifty,                     it's gonna be fourteen thousand.
So it's, so it's one thousand tons  WHITACRE:           (ui).
ANDREAS:            Right?  WHITACRE:           It's peanuts if
its two hundred and forty-five thousand ton.  ANDREAS:
Yeah.  So now KYOWA would like to have...  IKEDA:
Well uh...  ANDREAS:            How much of that growth would
they li