   Forgot your password?  Comment Re: Paved with good
intentions... (Score 1) 245  Your fantasy would still not be
appropriate even if it was true. If you need the kid to talk the
last thing you should do is torture him. Torture will not make
him talk, it will make him lie and it will affirm his bad views
so certainly that he will grow up to be a suicide bomber or
worse.  Comment Re: Sanders (Score 1) 488  I know that
"socialized systems" is a meaningless term and has nothing to do
with socialism either.  Check a dictionary. Socialism is defined
as a system of economics where the workers own the means of
production.  That's the ENTIRE definition, within Marxist
philosophy it gets a rider attached - which basically comes down
to "not good enough".  But that, broad, definition is all of it.
Please note that NOWHERE in the definition of socialism does the
word "state" or "government" occur, it has nothing to do with
them. And thus you get, for example, anarchist forms of
socialism which has no government - yet m