Take the 2-minute tour ×  Creature A grapples creature B.
Creature B has Rake. Creature B attempts to rake creature A.
Can you rake when you did not start the grapple, and can't win a
grapple check?  Edit 1: In this case, creature A is some kind of
giant squid style monster, and creature B is an Androsphinx.
From what I understand, usually using Rake works like this- 1,
attempt to grapple. 2, assuming grapple succeeds, roll attack
roll. 3, assuming attack roll hits, roll Rake damage. My
question is, if you are grappled, can you forgo step one?
share|improve this question There is no such thing as
"controlling the grapple". Either you are grappling, pinned or
pinning w.r.t. an opponent. Which do you mean? –  Eric Mar 10
'13 at 9:13 Also, do you picture this all happening within
creature A's turn, or spread out over both creatures' turns?
Could you give an example of the monster you have in mind for B?
–  Eric Mar 10 '13 at 10:04 add comment  3 Answers  up vote 4
down vote accepted  Answer: Yes, (and maybe m