Monday, November 21, 2005   I spend my life listening to what
people say. While I have to make judgements all the time about
whether I am being told the truth or not, I tend mostly to take
what people tell me seriously. Especially if they are telling me
that they want to do harm to themselves and/or others.  Here is
what Abu Bakar Bashir, the alleged spiritual leader of Jemaah
Islamiyah in Indonesia has to say about Islam and the West in an
interview in his jail cell in Jakarta: (hat tip: Dave King)
Scott Atran: What are the conditions for Islam to be strong? Abu
Bakar Bashir: The infidel country must be visited and spied
upon. If we don't come to them, they will persecute Islam. They
will prevent non-Muslims converting. SA: What if they persist?
SA: So this fight will never end? SA: How can the American
regime and its policies change?  This man just had his sentence
reduced for conspiracy in the Bali bombings and will soon walk
free.  There is no reason to doubt that he means what he says.
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