At optical frequencies the electromagnetic analogs to quantum tunneling involve wave propagation in photonic bandgap structures and frustrated total internal reflection at the interface between two prisms in close contact. Spielmann, et al. sent 12 fs (FWHM) laser pulses through the stop band of a multilayer dielectric structure. They found that the measured group delay was independent of the number of layers, or equivalently, the thickness of the photonic barrier, thus confirming the Hartman effect for tunneling light waves. In another optical experiment, Longhi, et al. sent 380-ps wide laser pulses through the stop band of a fiber Bragg grating (FBG). They measured the group delay of the transmitted pulses for gratings of length 1.3 cm, 1.6 cm, and 2 cm and found that the delay saturated with length L in a manner described by the function tanh(qL), where q is the grating coupling constant. This is another confirmation of the Hartman effect. The inferred tunneling group velocity was faster than that of a reference pulse propagating in a fiber without a barrier and also increased with FBG length, or equivalently, the reflectivity.