i switched to the human bean in red bluff so that i didnt have to feed corporate america via starbucks. the coffee is comparable, but the price is the same...which it shouldnt be since it doesnt have the overhead. when i was forced to pay a quarter to get my 2 year old a cup of water after paying 4 bucks for coffee, i refused and gave the water back. she said i could wait in the parking lot whil.e she contacted the owner re. a refund. it was 109 degrees ...f that. i left without the quarter that she charged  me, without the water...and ill never go back. starbucks is successful for a reason, i know that now