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Notes on the Future of Activism

Posted 2 years ago on Aug. 22, 2014, 11:32 a.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Tags: Mental Environmentalism

Written by Micah White, PhD







To escape the problems of linear time and cyclical time, activism must rely on a new temporality. Perhaps the best articulation of this new activist temporality is in the work of Slavoj Žižek. In his most recent book, First as Tragedy, Then as Farce, Žižek blames the failure of contemporary activism on our assumption that time is a one-way line from past to future. He argues that activism is failing to avert the coming catastrophe because it is premised on the same notions of linear time that underpin industrial society. According to Žižek, therefore, a regeneration of activism must begin with a change in temporality. Paraphrasing Jean-Pierre Dupuy, Žižek writes, "if we are to confront adequately the threat of (social or environmental) catastrophe, we need to break out of this 'historical' notion of temporality: we have to introduce a new notion of time." This new notion of time is a shift of perspective from historical progress to that of the timelessness of a revolutionary moment.








Looking back on Carson’s book from the perspective of mental environmentalism, it is significant that it begins, not with hard science as we may expect because Carson was a trained scientist, but with fantasy. The first chapter, entitled “A Fable for Tomorrow,” reads like a fairy tale: “There once was a town in the heart of America where all life seemed to live in harmony with its surroundings.” She then goes on to describe an idyllic, pastoral community known for its abundant agriculture and wild biodiversity. She writes of foxes and deer; laurel, virburnum and alder; wild birds and trout. However, the beauty of the place is not permanent – an evil, invisible malady spreads across the land. Birds die, plants wilt and nature grows silent. The suggestion is that the land has been cursed; if this were a different story perhaps the farmers would have prayed, offered sacrifices to the gods or asked their ancestors for help. Instead, Carson shifts the blame away from transcendental forces and back to the materialist domain of man. “No witchcraft, no enemy action had silenced the rebirth of new life on this stricken world.” Carson concludes, “The people had done it to themselves.”















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[-] 6 points by flip (7101) 2 years ago

i call bullshit on micah - what a load of crap. get in the trenches - go door to door - speak in the language that working people understand. the freedom riders is our example - not zizek philosophizing. for floodwallstreet go to - https://twitter.com/hashtag/floodwallstreet?f=realtime&src=hash


And that is the last newspost that is up on this site. Nothing about the events of the anniversary of Occupy Wall Street, September 17, 2014.


The people at [$#flodwallstreet](https://twitter.com/hashtag/FloodWallStreet?src=hash)  here for information

there should be a front page article supporting this assembly


BROTHER EARTH (with Boots Riley and Josh Healey)

If Star Wars was made by environmentalists..


what the hell happened to this site - did shooz and all get their wish - to ruin any chance of making this mean something

[-] 9 points by beautifulworld (22590) 2 years ago

I wish I knew. I think OWS has been under attack since day one and there have been many forces here, but the biggest factor is probably the fact that one single person controls the url and the code of something that truly belongs to the 99%.

[-] 7 points by Renneye (3874) 2 years ago


That's the crux, right there, bw.

[-] 5 points by flip (7101) 2 years ago

are we talking justine here - has she checked in to google and out of ows

[-] -1 points by grapes (4573) 2 years ago

I think that the people got to her nerves. There were the many avatars of "Trashy" posting negative things about her. She probably has little more time for this forum to defend it against hackers and attackers now that it has attracted more attention. Prohibiting signups was probably the easiest way to shut them out. It may also just be fatigue. I can sympathize with that when people throw around things that are false and yet not own up to them.


"the future of activism" is in Hong Kong. & it's umbrellas.

Occupy Central:

"The government's crackdown has been unsuccessful in dispersing the protesters, who are still out on the streets—and solidarity marches are taking place in cities around the world, including Ferguson. Here's a wrap-up of photos from the weekend."


Unbrellas I tell you.!!

[-] 1 points by grapes (4573) 1 year ago

Hong Kong is all the way on the other side of the world. Issues seem eerily similar. It's a small world after all!


"HK protest U.S. plot!": Putin


"One report on Rossiya 24 also suggested the U.K. was to blame. "Experts say another force behind the protests is the U.K., which is currently losing benefits its companies enjoyed in the years after it handed over the colony to China," the anchor said. He didn't identify the experts."

I guess 'Occupy Central' is an arm of western spy orgs.



The U.S. does not have the influence over Hong Kong. I am pretty sure that Edward Snowden had been listening to Hong Kong before he put his life in Hong Kong's protection. Hong Kong was dragging its feet regarding the U.S. extradition request and eventually it let Snowden fly away to Moscow.

Hong Kong awakens when China broke its promise to Hong Kong. The U.S. has NO interest in causing domestic strife for its banker, China. China's own policy caused the strife. The U.K. is even less likely than the U.S. to stir up trouble for China because the U.S. is a Pacific power but the British Empire east of Suez exists only in remnants. The U.S. does have interest in seeing that our first and second amendments are observed. Assad understood this well and still lives, unlike Gadhafi.

Putin is hallucinating but whatever he has IS indeed strong!


Hong Kong Occupation: Gov surrounded.

"Leader offers talks, not resignation"


Solidarity with Occupy central as the gov gears up to make a move,

[-] -3 points by timeforabigchange (-43) from Winnipeg, MB 1 year ago

It really is a small world.




pushed this post down trying to get the floodwallstreet event listed

You have the top post

could you put it up?


i have no idea what you are saying - sorry to be so stupid


you have the top post on this subject

I want people to be able to find floodwallstreet from here

edit a link into it will be most visible in the top post


well i did something but not sure if is exactly what you would like - check it out and let me know


thank you

that should help

we still need a frontpage article for Flood wall Street




Activisms future needs reflection on the past.


Early 'occupation' that informs all our efforts.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4573) 2 years ago

The problem is not language. The problem is what working people can understand given their motivations, education, or the lack thereof. We can whack-a-mole to raise their wages, for example, or we can resist the effects of the corrosive consumerism by mental cleansing.

Your "running out of inches" misses the important point of "collapsing trust." We must rebuild trust by avoiding any fuzziness in our math, our thinking, and our actions. Take out and look at a quarter and repeat after me the phrase above George Washington. "In God We Trust."


seems you are saying that poor uneducated working people can't understand what is happening to them - i disagree and history proves you incorrect - take a look at the populist movement. as for trust - once again you show what a good education does to common sense. if you have to pay your taxes in dollars you will need dollars not matter what you trust. you seem to be thinking like an elitist!

[-] 2 points by grapes (4573) 2 years ago

Where did the populist movement get the masses by now? Back to striving for that same $15 minimum wage achieved many decades ago. Where has that purchasing power gone? Persistent inflation through the intervening decades.

Ahhh! I do need "dollars" to pay my taxes but what are the taxes on "income"? If a rich person takes out a secured loan from a bank using an apartment building as collateral, is that loan income? Can the person get a high-priced call girl, snort cocaine, and fuk their brains out with the proceeds of the loan? Why can the person take out a loan using the building? Its nominal value has gone up due to more currency flowing around as created by the (Non-)Federal (No-)Reserve. Not only does the person not have to pay income tax on the loan, the interests paid back on the loan can be deducted from the person's other incomes. Meanwhile, the building's being depreciated on tax returns shield even more of the person's incomes from taxation. By the way, the rich person did not own the building using their own money. It was mostly other people's money from the stupid people who save in banks, buy insurances, and pay into pension plans.

Learn the difference between nominal and real values and you will fare much better in this land of "Everything is not what it seems."


and where did the civil rights movement get us - certainly a better place than 1940 and so did the populists - they laid the ground work for all that came later - social security unemployment ins etc. we should end this - you can't see what i am saying. there is no one way for things - inflation hurts old people on fixed incomes but in general what i am saying is correct no matter what you like to think, in the past inflation has been mainly driven by wages - that has been driven out of the system so far by reaganism. the next one may be driven by resource scarcity which is why we need to understand the difference between money and real wealth - alan watts makes it perfectly plain to any who want to see it - you do not. thanks for your time and good bye


I agree that the New Deal and the Johnson '60s have improved our social safety net but not keeping our wary eyes on the scourge of inflation let much gain of the middle class be stolen.


if that is so then why did productivity grow and wages stayed flat for the last 30 years - was that because of inflation? nope - you need to give up the fixation on inflation - i am sure there are many things we can agree on regarding inflation and economic policy but this last point is obvious - inflation did not cause the problems for the working class since the days of reagan - it was no wage growth that is the problem here


Inflation is "NOT" good for the middle class and is even worse for the never mentioned ( and growing by leaps and bounds ) lower class.

Couple inflation with frozen incomes and you ( WE ) have a disaster economy.

Inflation - certainly has caused major problems for the working class - who are also suffering from frozen wages.

What is "obvious" is that your thinking is pretty flawed.


you did not really address the question - try another one. this discussion could be helpful to many if you approach it honestly. can you explain how we had big inflation from 1940 to 1975 and a huge increase in the wealth of the middle class - a raising of the living standards of the poor and a lowering of inequality - it was "the golden age of capitalism" - look it up! don't get snippy dk - you don't know the subject here. you made a good point when you said "Couple inflation with frozen incomes" - well who says incomes have to be frozen and how is that accomplished. it is VERY obvious if you take a minute to think about it. do you want to be the guy in the lifeboat or the guy with $10,000 standing on the deck of the titanic trying to buy a spot. money and wealth are two different things and ows needs to understand that. we are entering a time when resource scarcity will cause huge problems - we need to understand how to deal with that.


1940 was essentially the start of World War II - the war effort was the biggest economic stimulus program ever. Inflation be damned if we had to lick the Huns' jackboots! Everyone had a job to do paid through massive deficit spending.

1975 was essentially the start of the oil cartel's control of the price of the "blood of industries." It was the end of cheap oil triggered by the Yom Kippur war. That was the start of resource scarcity that had caused huge problems (Fed monetizing Vietnam War debts, high inflation, high interest rates, Reagan riding quixotically to the rescue partly by crushing labor unions).

In between, the U.S. was the unquestioned world economic leader. After WWII, U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Soviet Union, China, Japan, or virtually the entire Old World all laid in ruins. The U.S. middle class had the greatest rebuilding task ever to do. When coupled with the New Deal and Johnson '60s buildup of social safety net, vast number of people were lifted out of poverty. The working class boomed.

It was NOT inflation that made the U.S. masses better off in 1940-1975 than before. Inflation (from massive fiscal economic stimulus program) coupled with even higher wage growth are not in the cards. There is nothing like WWII going on unless the Ukraine situation gets out of hand.


long answer but not as simple as - that period had huge inflation and an increase in wealth of the middle class so obviously inflation can not be the problem. now we do not need ww3 - we could use a massive mobilization to create renewable energy and a sustainable economy - would have the same effect as a build out for war. one last time - if wages are tied to inflation then inflation redistributes wealth - and the only reason they would be not is because of a lack of democracy in the political system. resource scarcity will cause a different kind of inflation and that has nothing to do with the fed and your complaints


My objection to a political fix for the problems caused by the Fed printing is that we are only treating the symptoms, not the cause. It misdirects the focus and efforts of the victims of inflation. I hate patches because they need to be redone again and again. Fixing the cause is preferable.

Regarding the most venerable Chomsky's comment about "work needing to be done," I absolutely agree. Our economic system fails its prime directive. It sucks and fuks!


i think where we disagree is that i do not think fed printing is the problem. if the fed printed money and gave it to citizens to retro fit houses to be energy efficient or to build out a smart grid or mass transit or fix our infrastructure i would ask them to print away. giving it to the banks to make profit is fucked up!


Everytime we say the Fed printing money, we are automatically making a wrong statement. The whole process involving the (Non-)Federal (No-but-ultimate-)Reserve, the nationally chartered banks, and the U.S. Treasury Department, and the U.S. Mint is rather complicated but it amounts to no less than printing money. The Fed can create credit for these privileged banks which own it at lightning speed, far exceeding any printing press.

The Fed cannot outright print away in broad daylight because people will probably say, "That is criminal!" so it has to hide behind the contraption and create credit for these special banks to loan away. Yep, they are exactly the ones now owning the entities which drove the U.S. economy into the ditch in 2008 and are still holding back the recovery. You probably put your finger on the crux of the matter when you mentioned 6% inflation. They do not want to loan out at below 4% and have 6% inflation eat away their debt holdings. They need assurances of their FUTURE profits of all of their debt holdings, including the rotten ones from the crash of 2007-2009.


When you buy a good bottle of whiskey with your credit card you are "printing money." The whole system of money creation is a bit of anarchy. The central bank should create whatever amount of currency that is needed for full employment and a sustainable future


it's a negative exponential game

how can we lose ?


You know I rarely know what the fuck you mean. I think I agree with you but I never know for sure


If you are financially flexible, you can switch sides. In one breath, you condemn the traders. In another breath, you become a trader whom you have just condemned. That is what it takes to survive under the crooked system. Rest assured that in a negative exponential game, zero is an asymptote. Nearly all will be reduced to poverty aside from the fast, big, or knowledgeable ones. It is disgusting.


Look in the mirror when you say - " don't get snippy "

If you will remember I said look at the last 40 years. If you are bad at math - that time period starts at 1974 and goes through today 2014.

I never said incomes had to be frozen - it is what it is = they "are" frozen.

Living a good life is true wealth. But unfortunately - we live in a system that is tied to money - money to have or have not a home - money to have or have not food on the table - and time tied to working enough hours to have both a roof over our heads and food on the table. This is what you need to understand - we are not living in a "what if" situation ( as in - what if wages were not frozen - we are living in a "what is" situation ( where wages "are" frozen ).


No I do not want to be the guy with money trying to buy a spot in the life-boat. I don't have that kinda money and never have had - "that" would be the wealthy - ya know - those who are currently hoovering up all of the money that they can get a-hold of - the ones that have gone on the program of destroying the middle class and making it a two class society = those who have and those who have not - and those who have will be the very few - so you have the reason a plutocrat gives a ted talk about seeing the pitch-forks coming for him and the others like him.


there is one simple question in all of this - is inflation the problem or not. i say no - wages and the political process that keeps wages flat is the problem. if wages are tied to productivity as they were during the golden age of capitalism then inflation is a good thing. by focusing on inflation we distract people and make it harder to see how to fix things. stable money, gold standard are tools of the wealthy. you can see that by by those who advocate for it. inflation actually helps redistribute wealth - IF wages rise with inflation.


Redistributing wealth through inflation is very arbitrary and unfair, not only to the people who do not have the credit worthiness and/or knowledge to play the game well. For example, what do the renters of the apartment building get from inflation as opposed to the landlord/lady? Higher rents. The landed gentry gets higher valuation of their real inflation-proof buildings and can therefore borrow more loans, money even better than the additional higher rent "income" because it is not taxed.

The ones savvy about the ways of the markets use inflation and its expectations to make hedges and do lightning trades. All the numbers get obscured. No one can steer the economy well so it has to crash big. Last time around, Paul Volcker wrung inflation out of the U.S. but the medicine was much more awful than that of the recent Great Recession.

Look at the big ups and downs in the stock markets in recent days regarding Fed statements. Nothing much in the real world had changed in two days but instead of no change in the stock market indices, we got gyrations. Traders' eyes are glued to the Fed instead of the real world. It cannot be good if these drivers of the economy are watching and playing the Fed's video game instead of the real world of our economic road. Even worse, the Fed's easy money finds its way into things that people need to live on. You can get rice riots, Arab Spring, Syria, etc.


we agree here. i never said that inflation was the best way to redistribute wealth or the best way to do anything. what i did argue against was that inflation is an evil and that fiat currency is evil and central banks are evil. the central banks have been working for the banks - they were set up to be that way - anti democratic. if under democratic control a central bank and fiat currency can create full employment and the currency necessary to fund a sustainable future! end of story - i hope


I agree. Rather than giving many billions of dollars to the financial criminals to loan out, a much more effective way to bring back the economy is a special dividend check in U.S. stimulus coupons of $20000 per taxpayer of record on October 17th, 2008. Coupons are to be treated as cash within all U.S. jurisdictions and have no legal value elsewhere.


interesting idea - i like clinton's idea (not many of his but this one anyway) of tax credits or some such way to pay people to retro fit houses to be more energy efficient - lots of ways we can put people to work and build a better future. chomsky said it years ago - "look around you - there is plenty of work that needs to be done and lots of people who need work. it is obvious that the economic system does not work!"



I say inflation "is" a problem.

Even if wages go up with a rise in productivity - one can only be so productive. At a point in time an individual can not be more productive = they have hit their peak - both in hours that can be worked and the amount of work that can be accomplished in that time.

So with inflation - one of two things happen =

1) wages stay stagnant as they rise to match ( keep pace with ) inflation.

2) wages diminish if they do not keep pace with inflation.

If wages rise and cost of living does not rise = no inflation. Then the worker gets ahead. Or if wages rise faster than inflation rises = workers get ahead.

If wages are stagnant and we experience deflation = workers get ahead because the dollar can buy more than it used to.

Inflation is not a good thing.


So you think that when the ruling class experiences deflation they will keep wages stable. Ha! Like during the depression with masses of unemployed. Stable wages. Wow no wonder you get snippy. I would too if I were you


Follow-up to my previous comment = " U R an incredible idiot - aren't U."

You cherry pick your positions flavored with a bunch of "what ifs" - not with realities as they currently stand.

Then when I mention what could happen with an experienced deflation - "YOU" go for a major depression event.

So yeah - I think that U R an incredible idiot!

Let me cherry pick a "what if" for you.

"What if" Fossil Fuel went through a major devaluation? Say the 3.50 or 4.00 a gallon gasoline - devalued to being 1.00 per gallon.

What would happen to the economy as a whole?

Major depression? No I don't think so.

Major cost savings in every industry in the USA ( other than Fossil Fuel that is ) ? I do believe so.

Major burden for small business removed? I do believe so.

As every business is affected by the cost of fossil fuel = the greater the cost the greater the burden - the lesser the cost the greater the business flexibility = economic power/resilience/robustness.

Would jobs be lost in the fossil fuel business? Probably. Which jobs? Production? or perhaps management.

What would happen to the average individual's buying power? They would for one be saving 2/3's to 3/4's or so on their fuel expenditure. For two = could they then spend that money elsewhere?

With fuel savings of 2/3's or more would business be in a better position to do things like expand or reinvest in better technology/equipment and other things? Maybe take on a larger work force?

Would the overall economy see an influx of money? Money that had been tied up in fuel purchases?


sorry to annoy you but i have to say you do not understand money - i am not sure what your position is exactly. can you tell me - mine is that in normal times inflation is not a bad thing. it redistributes wealth from top to bottom - or at least middle. the rich - the bond holders and owners of banks hate inflation since it eats at their wealth. so - anyone who complains about inflation in general or complains about fiat currency and wants a return to the gold standard or complains about "money printing" by the fed is (for the most part) doing the work of the .01%! that is a fact and i am sorry if you do not like it or want to see it. a democratic central bank should be able to print all the money (paper or electronic) the economy needs to create full employment and to build a sustainable economy. the only limits are those (that you point out here) that have to do with real world resources. if we cannot get enough concrete or steel or energy then we cannot build what we need but paper dollars should never - NEVER prevent us from doing what is good for the population. now yes - since our society and wealth is built on oil if the price of oil drops it is good for almost everyone. that does not change ANYTHING that i said. we can discuss that if you like but it should be obvious. it is a simple point of logic - if you (or grapes or that dopey little facts guy) say that money printing is bad and inflation is bad you must defend that position. if the country experienced HUGE inflation from 1800 to 1970 (or you pick the time frame) and at the same time experienced tremendous increase in wealth and in the standard of living of the majority of the population then it cannot be that inflation is always bad. CANNOT BE! it must be other factors that determine whether the wealth of the country and standard of living increases or decreases. ok - so respond and try not to be a child. a snippy child at that. try to respond logically - state your position clearly and defend it - or just stop.


U R an incredible idiot - aren't U.


Well done. A very thoughtful response

[+] -4 points by anarkette (24) from Boston, MA 2 years ago

Stop insulting and bickering against others. If you can't debate like an adult, go play with the kids at the arcade. This place is for respectable people, not net jerks. Capiche señor.


The issue is NOT getting to $15 an hour. If the people making $7.50 promise to go with Everything doubling, we can get them to $15 in a heartbeat but they will realize after the initial euphoria that they are no better off.

Productivity per unit labor grew for decades without wage growth because there were many hitherto undocumented quasi-labor from overseas, machines, and smarter ways of doing things. They were NOT counted as labor of the U.S. The U.S. is still near the TOP in productivity per unit labor but the benefits of that accrue to the managements and owners. Believe in "trickle-down" and those at the bottom get the least goodies. By the way, it is actually far more pleasant for management to deal with machines or overseas contractors than to manage domestic labor because domestic labor is "overly qualified."

Persistent inflation degraded all wages. Cursed were the (non-inflation-indexed) wage earners for their lot was the financial poor house.


you and i are saying the same thing you just use more words! you said "the scourge of inflation let much gain of the middle class be stolen." now you say "The U.S. is still near the TOP in productivity per unit labor but the benefits of that accrue to the managements and owners." i agree totally here - inflation did not destroy the wages of the working class - it was political issues that did it - as alan greenspan said " worker insecurity" - that is all for me i have to go to work - slaving away for the man! well not really - i teach kids how to play tennis - not a bad gig - i work for myself so my only boos is the little kid on the other side of the net


The delusion of the masses is that the degradation of quality of living was due to not getting wage increases sufficient to overcome inflation. Both the politicians and the business people prefer that. Business people have their real (inflation-adjusted) labor costs reduced year after year. The politicians get voted into office by constituents clamoring for a minimum wage increase.

Why did the masses not see the origin of the problem being inflation itself created by currency expansion made out of thin air? Sufficiently low inflation bores them but over decades it will definitely hurt.



:Popular resistance", internet, & street action is the future of activism.


"This past week, there has been a lot written about next steps in the climate justice movement. Now that hundreds of thousands have marched, it shows that the movement exists. But marching alone doesn’t change things, so what do we do? There are many tactics required to move to a carbon-free nuclear-free energy economy. The task for all of us is to build on the momentum created by the march and the Flood Wall Street sit-in and escalate both resistance and building alternatives."

What else is there?

Oh, Voting! of course.

Are you with us?


Activisms future NOW, in HK.



Philosophy has it's place, The streets will define the future of activism.

Solidarity with 'Occupy Central' in Hong Kong.

[-] 4 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

Beastly Bloodsports: The Overlords state their objection to killing animals for entertainment. They put teeth into this pronouncement by causing every member of the audience to actually feel the bull's pain at what, for obvious reasons, is the last bullfighting event for the humans.

Childhood's End is a novel by Arthur C. Clarke


Fast Food Workers & their supporters must engage in actual activism on the streets and everywhere else. Words are wonderful but actions are imperative.

facta non verba ...


Solidarity with fast food workers across the nation today, September 4, 2014. Go for it! You have nothing to lose.

[-] 2 points by ShadzSixtySix (1936) 2 years ago

And everything to gain !!! Anyone working 40 hours a week should be able to pay for a basic standard of living !! The dubious logic of ''trickle down'' is now revealed for the clap-trap that it was because The 99% can clearly see the 'Hoover Up' nature of the 'Extraction Economy' ... that 40 years of Neoliberalism has given us all in Western demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcies !

ad iudicium ...


The top 3% of Americans now own 54% of the wealth. If that doesn't get people out on the streets, I don't know what will.

"Gap Between Richest And The Rest Widened After The Recession: Fed"


Well, come on Fed, do your job! You are part of the government. You are supposed to be protecting the general welfare of the people.

This kind of concentration of wealth at the top is deleterious to the welfare of the people and is unsustainable.


The Fed is NOT ''part of the government'' bw - I beg to differ but I absolutely belief that !!! That it is ''part of the'' USG is exactly what we are supposed to think tho' !! The Fed is modelled on 'The Bank Of England' - the world's first 'Central Bank' and a private organisation that precedes the .. 'democratic British state' & which also pretends to be an arm of state - especially after it's alleged nationalisation in 1948 - when all that really happened was that the UK state only officially owned the HQ building in London ! Thanx for your strong link tho' and in reply, I append and recommend :

''This week, nearly five years after the Supreme Court paved the way for unlimited corporate political spending through its Citizens United decision, a majority of the Senate voted in support of a constitutional amendment that would overturn that decision.

''What was remarkable about the vote wasn't the result, but why it happened at all. Since the day Citizens United was handed down, Americans across the political spectrum have rejected its reasoning. Even while pundits were explaining that the constitutional amendment would never receive widespread support, grassroots activists were organizing on a massive scale to demand exactly that.

''As Sen. Bernie Sanders said on the Senate floor this week, "Of all of the issues out there -- whether you are concerned about education, health care, the environment, the economy -- the most important issue underlying all of those issues is the need to end this disastrous Supreme Court decision which allows billionaires to buy elections." To fix any of these problems, we have to fix our democracy problem and make the voices and votes of everyday Americans central to our political process once again.''

radix omnium malorum est cupiditas ...


Well said. Sadly, we don't have a government that represents us and getting it back is proving to be a difficult struggle.


That ''we don't have a government that represents us'' - is really mainly because it is wholly owned by Banksters and Corporations with just a thin veneer of demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy - for appearances sake. There is no option but to struggle for The 99% & re. 'The Fed', I append :

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 0 points by grapes (4573) 2 years ago

This article proves that the Fed has been doing its job. At one time, we had $15 an hour minimum wage, adjusted for inflation. The Fed steals from the masses to give to the 1% through decades of inflation it had produced. The 1% owns real (inflation-proof) assets, owes the most, and pays back the debts with cheaper dollars. The masses had to fight just to get back to where they were economically decades ago. This is the crocodile's tear for the poor thing it chewed up.

Anyone can get rich with billions of dollars of 0-0.25% credit with the Fed committing to 2% inflation but anyone excludes most common folks.


Occupy Wall Street! Occupy the Fed! End this madness.


i agree that we should occupy the fed - it should be in democratic hands but i hope you do not fall for the inflation argument. the gold standard and a strong dollar are tools of the rich - inflation redistributes wealth from the creditors (the rich) to the debtors ( the rest of us) - this is a crucial issue for occupy to understand. fiat currency is a tool of the masses - you can read it every day in the business press - the wealthy hate inflation. that is why they fight so hard even with a struggling economy to keep inflation at bay.


Good points. They get away with a lot of their bad behavior because most people haven't got a clue as to what it is they are doing.


just now reading the article - i think zizek is an idiot! not sure what you know about the money issue but stephanie kelton has one of the best talks on the subject that i know of. google her in italy and it will come up


The brightest people make the most complex matters, simple. I'm not big on those who over-complicate concepts.

I'm listening to Kelton in Italy right now, and she is explaining money in a very simple way. Great. Thanks, flip.

Kelton on "What is Money?:



let me know what you think - in conjunction with stephanie here is a simple and obvious point by alan watts - "Let me illustrate this point and, at the same time, explain the major obstacle to sane technological progress, by dwelling on the fundamental confusion between money and wealth, Remember the Great Depression of the Thirties? One day there was a flourishing consumer economy, with everyone on the up-and-up; and the next, unemployment, poverty, and bread lines, What happened? The physical resources of the country the brain, brawn, and raw materials were in no way depleted, but there was a sudden absence of money, a so-called financial slump. Complex reasons for this kind of disaster can be elaborated at length by experts on banking and high finance who cannot see the forest for the trees, But it was just as if someone had come to work on building a house and, on the morning of the Depression, the boss had said, "Sorry, baby, but we can't build today. No inches." "Whaddya mean, no inches? We got wood, We got metal. We even got tape measures.' "Yeah, but you don't understand business. We been using too many inches and there's just no more to go around." A few years later, people were saying that Germany couldn't possibly equip a vast army and wage a war, because it didn't have enough gold. What wasn't understood then, and still isn't really understood today, is that the reality of money is of the same type as the reality of centimeters, grams, hours, or lines of longitude. Money is a way of measuring wealth but is not wealth in itself. A chest of gold coins or a fat wallet of bills is of no use whatsoever to a wrecked sailor alone on a raft He needs real wealth, in the form of a fishing rod, a compass, an outboard motor with gas, and a female companion.

[-] 7 points by beautifulworld (22590) 2 years ago

That is exactly right. Money is not wealth, but I do think the 1% has figured out how to create wealth (for themselves, not for society) from money, but in and of itself, money is not wealth. Very true and well put by Watts.


The way to create wealth from money is to obfuscate the origin of the money and the nefarious process through which it is created. Catch big fish from murky waters. The catch phrase on the U.S. currency is "legal tender for all debts, public and private." It is based on the might of the U.S. government (the "legal" part) to enforce (ultimately by the U.S. military).

The rich know how to use "seemingly fuzzy but not really" math to turn that currency into wealth by creating inflation which fudges away the value in the currency between consecutive changings of its ownership. Real math eludes the masses and intricacies in the arcane creation of money make it hard to comprehend by them.


The ultimate wealth throughout much of the world and for millennia was land. The rich people own that even with lots of borrowed money. The U.S. extended this debt thing to much of the middle class so many of them fancy themselves being rich (with the Fed-created inflation).

Let me ask you a good question. Who can borrow the most money from the banks? The rich people with the real assets or the ones who "wear big hats and own no cattle?"


the answer is rich people with real assets - and who do they borrow the money from? and who owns the banks - "which is the greater crime? to rob a bank or to own one?"


Rich people borrow from the stupid people who save their money in banks, who buy insurances of all kinds, and who pay into pension plans.

The average joe and jill can own the banks, too, but not to the same extent as the rich people. This is like your situation of owning a house and crowing about how great inflation was but do you know the people who own all of those tall buildings on Manhattan island?


Inflation really only profits those who buy property. As the property becomes more valuable than what you purchased it for - over time. But if your income does not keep pace with inflation - then over time ( reference the last 40 years ) one is unable to afford to buy a property and make the payments on it. The fortunate ones bought in ( were able to buy in ) when they could afford to - and hopefully had a locked in payment and rate.


the last 40 years are different form the previous 40 because the power of unions was broken by reagan and volker etc (and work done long before that by countless others of the power elite). they were able to drive wages down and productivity up thereby increasing profits. yes wages need to keep pace but that does not change the basic facts. most middle class wealth is in houses with mortgages - during any typical inflation houses increase in value and mortgages decrease - which is why the ruling class hates inflation. otherwise why would we see the fed and the rich worry so much about inflation in a time of terrible economic performance.


Mark my words. The low-paid worker groups which are lucky enough to succeed in getting $15 an hour today will be back decades from now to try to get $15 an hour real wage again. Inflation will erode wage gains that they may have achieved. Who can undermine the value of their wages? None other than the creators of that money!


look at the 40's and 50's and 60's - the golden age of capitalism. wages went up because workers had strong unions and government protection. you are confusing a political problem with and economic problem


I am a realist. I believe that economic numbers should be real, not obfuscated by inflation. Economic problems should be redressed in the economic realm. Remember the three golden monkeys for financial success: "See no evil!" "Hear no evil!" and "Speak no evil!"

"Let your yes be yes and your no be no. The rest [probably] came from the Evil One."


[ edit ] As inflation increases - value for the individual who already has a mortgage increases in their favor - those who do not yet have a property take a beating - as the housing costs increase as do the size of the mortgages and payments for such.

Inflation is not the friend of the average individual - in these days - as pay is not keeping pace with inflation - except for the Board Members and Executive officers ( then it is out-pacing inflation by decades and decades ) - so the wealthy currently love inflation - while inflation is driving the poor into early graves and the middle class is not far behind in feeling the same repercussions as time goes by and their pay continues to fall behind inflation.

edit -> BTW - those who already bought their homes ( scuse - entered into a decades long payment program to purchase ) - still have to make the payments and as their income shrinks due to not keeping pace with inflation - so does their ability to keep being able to make those payments as everything else costs more - their leeway on income disappears and then they find themselves looking at the need to sell to get a cheaper place ( HAH ) and they look to sell - they find that they do not have buyers able to pay the value of their current residence.


first rule of rent club


you are wrong here. yes the rich are outpacing inflation with wages but inflation eats away at their wealth and that is why the fight so hard against it. read about the populist struggle - they understood fiat currency and inflation. you are right that today the middle class is being ground down but that is because wages are not matching productivity. think it through - if you have a big pile of cash in the bank deflation is your best friend. that money can buy more and more. read any business publication - bondholders hate inflation and who are the bond holders but the rich! today we are in a mess because the power of labor has been crushed and the great liberal bargain of the golden age of capitalism has been torn up by the forces of capital


The rich do not own their assets mostly in the form of big piles of cash in the bank. They own real assets with big piles of other peoples' money through credit borrowing. It is called leverage and enhances returns but that can be both positive and negative so they need to make sure that returns are always positive.

Borrow $1 billion from the Fed at 0-0.25%. Loan it out at 4%. That gives 3.75-4% a year or $37.5-4 million a year. Very profitable indeed (in the positive with other peoples' money)!


yes banks borrow at .25% right now - but as you say they loan it out - often as fixed rate mortgages at 4% or less. now what happens when inflation is 6% - my house value goes up and my loan payment goes down. very obvious for anyone to see how this helps debtors and hurts creditors. also the rich own bonds and treasuries etc - they usually hold much of their wealth in fixed assets


I see. Sorry if I misread you. You are wishing for 6% inflation so mortgage borrowers like you can come out ahead with their house loans. With all my fondest hopes for safe unwinding, the Feds are still working on it so stay tuned. Maybe the banks see 6% inflation coming like you do and stop loaning out mortgages.


you miss the most basic point - you have been brainwashed by economics as practiced today. you can have all the stable money or gold you like - when oil is scarce you will understand the value of currency. as franklin said - "you learn the value of water when the well runs dry"


Pension funds own bonds and treasuries and your average union working stiffs paying in to the pension plans are "rich"?

Inflation is NOT 6% in recent quarters. You are way off. I suspect that you confuse inflation with the increase in the nominal market price of your house. In fact, if inflation were running at 6%, the (Non-)Federal (No-)Reserve would have already ended its quantitative easing.

It is also very easy to see why those people owning the tall buildings on Manhattan island come out way ahead of you.


boy you are difficult - i did not say inflation is 6% - i said "now what happens when inflation is 6%"


The rich drive inflation - inflation does not "just" happen. They got lower taxes - so they should have been able to keep static pricing - but they did not keep static pricing - they kept increasing costs so that they would see bigger profits - as their actual costs didn't go up - just what they charged to their customers went up - and their ( the wealthy ) income took a several hundred percent leap upwards.


sorry but you are way off base here. the rich are richer because of tax policy and the political destruction of the power of unions. inflation is not the problem. if you are interested in truly helping the working class and the 99% you must understand this issue. read the business press - look at simpson bowles - read about the eu - they are terrified of inflation - why because they are working to save the middle class - no! this is pretty obvious once you think about it - the dirt poor farmers of the late 1800's understood it. you are falling for the ron paul, libertarian, money masters bullshit. i do not have time to keep going over the same ground with you. google stephanie kelton italy and she will help you - that is if you want to be helped


sorry but you are way off base here

When did you start drinking the financial kool-aid? Bet you just love and live for the words of our current economists - ya know - the ones who didn't see the economic meltdown coming and are with wallstreet about further deregulation.

You are not in touch with reality and realities.


nobody siad anything about deregulation or meltdowns - they are off topic. inflation good or evil is the question. try to address what i said - for those with cash deflation is good and inflation bad. for those in debt - like a mortgage or student loans - inflation helps them. it is an obvious point. whether you know it or not you are arguing for the gold standard - hard money - this is bad for working people and they have known it for 130 years - through many panics and depressions and meltdowns. it has nothing to do with the latest crisis. here is alan watts on the subject - if he doesn't get through to you nothing will - "If money must be gold or silver or nickel, the expansion and distribution of vast wealth in the form of wheat, poultry; cotton; vegetables, butter; wine, fish, or coffee must wait upon the discovery of new gold mines before it can proceed. This obviously ludicrous predicament has, heretofore, been circumvented by increasing the national debt a roundabout piece of semantic obscurantism by which a nation issues itself credit or purchasing power based; not on holdings in precious metals; but on real wealth in the form of products and materials and mechanical energy. Because national debts far exceed anyone's reserves of gold or silver; it is generally supposed that a country with a large national debt is spending beyond its income and is well on the road to poverty and ruin no matter how enormous its supplies of energy and material resources. This is the basic confusion between symbol and reality, here involving the bad magic of the word "debt," which is understood as in the phrase "going into debt." But national debt should properly be called national credit. By issuing national (or general) credit; a given population gives itself purchasing power, a method of distribution for its actual goods and services, which are far more valuable than any amount of precious metal.


The U.S. does the same thing as the 1% to the rest of the world - it owns (requiring a strong military) real (inflation-proof) assets, owes the most, and pays back with cheaper (its own newly printed) dollars so I add: Occupy the U.S.!


More good points. What happens on a micro level, happens on a macro level. What happens within a nation, happens among nations. We are the world's biggest bully, financially and militarily. We can do much better than that, surely, as our legacy to the world, at this point, is quite sad. We need to turn things around.


Our legacy to the world must include the sordid history lessons discernible from our experiences. For better or for worse, turning things around is always precarious during the transition. The taming of our mental environment as well as building up sufficient potential energy can effect a well-targeted decisive transition that minimizes risks.

Ancient Rome with its Greco-Roman culture fell but a millennium later its learnings, preserved by the Muslims, still inspired and guided the Renaissance. Cultural death may not be as final as an empire's demise.


It is a very long process and this is something some people do not understand. Watershed change does not happen over night. It is gradual. But, we've planted the seeds here with Occupy and we should never give up.


Yes, Occupy built an earthen dam so the water builds up behind it and floods the valley. It will take a long time to fill to high levels but the level of the water will keep on increasing until one day it happens - the Deluge!



i know we have had this debate before but how do you account for the period from 1910 to 1965 - massive inflation but the middle class grew to unprecedented size and wealth. it is not inflation that steals from the middle class.


That period 1910-1965 was characterized by great growth of the productive capacity of the U.S. economy. It was not really inflation but deflation in real terms. More goods to buy makes the dollars worth more.

An excellent reason why the U.S. economy grew so much during that period was because of its secluded location (at the other end of either one of the two biggest oceans) and its being able to keep from getting involved in global wars until it had no choice anymore. Trading with belligerent nations can be very profitable but eventually gets one into their wars.

Going through the Great Depression cleaned up much of the excess of the Roaring Twenties. It was not FDR's New Deal programs that really jump-started the economy. It was the trading with the nations at war while the "arsenal of democracies" hummed along. FDR's New Deal and the murder of the Czar's family in the Russian Revolution admonished the Establishment and enabled the sharing of wealth through social programs.

Give me a murderous bloodbath like that for the Czar's family, a Great Depression, and rebuilding after two of the most destructive wars in history and I will show you an Establishment that is eager to share, progressive government policies, and a prosperous middle class.


labor productivity has increased greatly from 1980 to the present but wages have not. largely because of the policies of reagan, clinton, bush and obama. you are finally correct that the russian revolution and commie union organizing helped push fdr and keynes into "saving capitalism." so you point out correctly that it is not inflation but the political process that keeps the working class from sharing in the inflation gains. once again i am not arguing that hyper inflation is good and i hope we can end this debate soon - but in pushing against inflation you are helping the rich. ows people must understand money or we are doomed. households and businesses must operate differently from governments since they do not have the power to tax and a PRINTING PRESS!


Everyone is free to play the same game as the rich people but do they have the knowledge, the vision, the credit worthiness, and most important of all the DISCIPLINE? Yes, the rich get hit hardest in their cash reserves but they had the DISCIPLINE to keep them around for meeting their financial obligations, taxes or otherwise. It is like a game of blackjack. If one does not have the DISCIPLINE and let Greed take control, one can go BUST!

The road to hyperinflation winds through the prickly rose garden of inflation. Some sniff and feast their eyes but others less knowledgeable bleed and eventually wonder, "How do I end up HEREEEE?"


everyone with money is free to play the same game - and what kind of money does the bottom 80% have? enough to buy a bank - boy you are out there


Remember in the U.S. - everyone is created equal and those of means are created more equal than others. They can buy into houses in better neighborhoods, send their children to better schools funded by real estate property taxes, and get better education for their children so they can enter a selective college branded for success. Owning a bank is just an excursion to dynastic rule. The bottom 80% can own a bank's stocks, not much barrier there at all - just don't even think about "controlling shares"!


the bottom 80% has no wealth to invest in bank stocks or anything else - what are you smoking? i want some!


Where there is a Will, there is a Way. Where there is No Way, there is quantum tunnelling. Enough Will of randomness possessed by the bottom 80% can get Anywhere albeit with low probabilities and few succeed. "Seek and you will find." "Knock and the door shall be opened unto you." Note that there is no time stamped on any of these Biblical promises. God is as shrewd as a bar member!


i think the better college are successful because the attendants and future business money have made connections they're

I'm sure they have the best teachers money can buy than again a dedicated scholars would value knowledge over money

*first words new thought


Connections count everywhere but how much they count can vary.


I thought about the plug in's made available by other companies for facebook

but I think those came after the facebook broadcast media hype

I built a cross website plug in 2003


friendster myspace facebook

facebook was successful because of a non-internet advertising campaign


Activism is also possible through connections, however tenuous or anonymous, on or off the internet. A colony of army ants can run down and eat an elephant. In small groups, ants do not seem to be intelligent to me (watch a group of ants move a dead grasshopper - they remind me of our divided Congress) but they have some rudimentary coordination mechanisms.

[-] -2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

those not working 40 hours don't deserve standard basic living ?

a lazy slave is a dead one


http://strikefastfood.org/ is an excellent site and I'll assume that you're trying to get a rise with what you say and I'll not respond in any other way now, other than what I say here now. Or is that a ruse too far ?

fiat lux ...


i've tried to get fast food jobs uncountable times

should those allowed jobs be paid more?


in the meantime, fill out our online application deadline

[-] 3 points by ShadzSixtySix (1936) 2 years ago

Try teaching physics / science to kids - in school, college or even privately, Matt.

ad iudicium ...




"Stop Capitalism. End the Climate Crisis."

September 22, NYC and Everywhere, Wear Blue

Absolutely, Matt, this should be on the front page of this website.


Climate activism guidelines: (in compliment)


Cool huh?


''97% of 2,500 UN climate scientists agree, humans cause global warming'' :

I don't know what was ''cool'' - about your near random blog link. Do you look at your own links ? If you excerpted maybe the rest of us mere mortals could get insight into the points that you are making, as we don't have enough people here to decipher you, so perhaps we need a OWS Army - I'm just sayin'.

minima maxima sunt ...


Always look at the links I post. you don't know whats cool about it?

"that is why you fail" Y


Explain the ''fail'' or even explain ''cool huh?'' - or conversely ... you could STFU !!!

verum ex absurdo ...


That's a great one. Haven't seen it.

Now try to post without the verbal pollution/personal attacks/ distractions & you will have recovered from your regular flameout syndrome.

Back to business:

Legal observers are critical when protesting today:




Fck off & go closely consider the following ... you partisan fuk-wit :

Solidarity & blessings @ The Anti-Frackers @ Barton Moss, tho' !!!

et temet nosce ...


Lazy! (lnk to another comment)

In the meantime, the in between time, in post related, & occupy created news tonight:


Please note it omits any of your concern troll, distraction/disruption tactics.

Digest it, BE the substance, embrace the meaningful, discard distractions.



''Why the Left Must Challenge Corporate Democrats''. by Richard Eskow :

It's not ''lazy'' to have connected to that previous link because it was actually on an important matter & even you seemed to accept that in reply to the comment linked to, you stupid ass !!! I am not sure that you actually understand the term 'concern troll' tho' ... so you ought to go look it up again and see how it'll more closely apply to you !! After all, I'm not the one telling someone else how to comment, am I ?!

nosce te ipsum ...


I voted for TeachouT HA! So another greatpost polluted by your PPP activity, & personal attacks/distractions.

Here's activism/protest related bits.



Can we challenge ALL corp pols? Or just Corp Dems, officer?

[-] 1 points by ShadzSixtySix (1936) 2 years ago

''Polluted'' ?!!! By you, I'd contend !! Prick !

So, still worried about PR for Dems, huh ?

temet nosce ...


No sir officer.


Activisms future? Global, shared, urban!


Sharing Cities Network launched its second annual global #MapJam, a project that brings activists together across the globe by mapping shared resources in cities to help make community assets more visible through grassroots sharing projects, cooperatives, community resources and the commons."

We're in this together, and stronger when we share.

Join Mapjam.

We need you!

[-] 2 points by cheViva (35) 2 years ago

Organizing to systematically overthrow all of the negative aspects and lies of the past, with a seven point platform I learned in Occupy Oakland: Oppression, race, patriarchy, land paperwork, control, capitalism, and religion. Wisdom, is recognizing impermanence. Once capitalism is defeated, for example, which is my focus, but I/we cannot forget that there must then be a culture, too!

For example, a good construction would be, "imagine if NYC abolished the institution of rent, and implemented a services directory phonebook where you could call someone to help for free." Rather than maintaining all negative, free everything involves what you already do.

PS - inter-movement solidarity - if you are having trouble with making rent or don't want to work slave, come to Detroit where we are doing it first! "ed.che@riseup.net"

[-] 2 points by nakedsex (94) 2 years ago

Really good article. I'm always impressed by how entertainment has become so non-stop action packed. Family Guy is a good example because you literally never have a second to think for yourself, or you'll end up missing half the show. All you can do is let your brain absorb the information, and when it's over you don't even realize what's become of your psyche.

I love watching old movies because not only are the plots deep but they actually give you time to critically think about their gravity and dimension, or how something feels, even just the scenery. After all the stimulation of today's stuff I can't even get anyone else I know to sit through something like that because it bores them.

I sort of see this specifically as an addiction, wanting more stimulation in order to be greater than before, always needing a little bit more. And the only way to curb addiction is willpower.

[-] 1 points by ButtonHGwinnett (44) 2 years ago

Activism will be effective if there is a free press able to publish information about it.

At the core of American society has been the assumption of a free press.

Doubts about the validity of these assumptions surfaced over 40 years ago. This is off the radar of most Americans.

Project Censored: Is the Press Really Free? The 1998 documentary


A very worthy cause for American activism is liberating free speech and the free press while there are still enough people and resources to sustain it.

Shadows of Liberty



this essay is ill communicated at best

produce by a random word generator at worst




Let’s take a page from Al Gore’s activism on climate change.




Peer-reviewed research suggests that at least until 2005, natural variability was responsible for half the ice decline. But exactly how big its influence is remains an open question – and as scientists agreed, establishing this is critical to making predictions about the Arctic’s future.


Sounding the alarm and raising a global awareness was a noteworthy accomplishment. But Mr. Gore's real expertise is American Politics not climate science.

He can provide a larger influence on the future course of the United States as an elder statesman and economic and political activist with democratic values.


Given the choice of Nuclear Winter or something else. We chose something else which was the other climate change. The questionable decisions that brought civilization to this dilemma were made a hundred years ago.

The end of WWI coincides with the Bolshevik Revolution which led to the Red Scare in the United States and began the War on Socialism directed by Capitalist. The Capitalist have been recklessly running the Military-Industrial Complex society in the United States for over a century with the global economy in tow through 2 World Wars and other minor ones at their peril.

Would throwing Capitalists overboard and transferring private ownership of strategic and vital national services and industries to the Commons be the equivalent of pulling the emergency brake before the bus goes over the cliff?

(Finalized) Red Scare: American Reaction To Communism 1919


[-] 2 points by ButtonHGwinnett (44) 2 years ago

The arms race and wars in the 20th century can be seen as attempts to contain Socialism.

It is premature to take Nuclear Winter off the table. The US and Russia still have large nuclear arsenals. More countries want them and will have them. A nuclear conflict between the smallest nuclear powers could still doom the planet.

Nuclear winter - still possible but preventable: Alan Robock at TEDxHoboken


The new activism must work for worthy causes. There are many.


Banning all nuclear weapons/energy is not necessary.

While solar power is much more commonly used, nuclear power offers great advantages in many areas. Solar cells, although efficient, can only supply energy to spacecraft in orbits where the solar flux is sufficiently high, such as low Earth orbit and interplanetary destinations close enough to the Sun. Unlike solar cells, nuclear power systems function independently of sunlight, which is necessary for deep space exploration. Nuclear reactors are especially beneficial in space because of their lower weight-to-capacity ratio than solar cells. Therefore, nuclear power systems take up much less space than solar power systems. Compact spacecraft are easier to orient and direct in space when precision is needed. Estimates of nuclear power, which can power both life support and propulsion systems, suggest that use of these systems can effectively reduce both cost and mission length.

Nuclear options are vital when it involves exploration and development in outer space.


Space? Hmmm. You make a good argument for nuclear energy.

I suppose I could support nuclear energy when an 'evacuation plan' is not required for siting nuke plants on earth.

Otherwise, I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

[-] 1 points by publius31 (75) from Fort Lee, NJ 2 years ago

There is need for activism. There is need to change the basis of civilization. There is no need for physical, military, or economic revolution. The change can be made by changing our Government. We are a representative republic and NOT a democracy. We elect people who presume to act in our stead when making and voting on laws. We feel, and are, disenfranchised by this election of intermediaries, these representatives, 538 of them, who presume to represent the 320,000,000 million of us living here. They don't, they can't, and they don't even try anymore. And it's been that way from the beginning. We are ruled by our representatives. Every year they decide how to spend 30% of our gross nation product. This year that's 4 trillion dollars, a 4 followed by 12 zeros. Do you think they are qualified to do that? Qualified by the fact of their birth? Qualified by their education? By there superior intellect, training, judgement? No, they are qualified only because of the votes we cast for them. There is no evidence that the average representative is in any way 'superior' to an average person on the street selected at random. To change this government the people must cease having representatives vote on the laws and vote on them themselves. And the majorityof votes passes the law. We will no longer give someone power over us which they can then use against us. We are responsible, interested, bright, vital people capable of good judgement and great understanding. We have this high standard of living, this generally high quality of average life, not because of our representatives, but despite them. We see the inequality in economic distribution, in opportunities for work and education. Wherever we look the ineptitude of representative government has lead to 1% of us have command and control over the other 99% because they control the law makers and command the representatives. End this insanity. Change the constitution so the people vote directly on the laws. Make an Actual Democracy. Make every voice equal to every other one by putting a vote behind it, for everyone.


Until this happens we will hit the streets and beg representative to represent us. We call it a victory when they do. It isn't. It just proves that now and then begging works. A nation based on begging cannot long survive, and it shouldn't. And it won't. Elect representatives that will join us in making an Actual Democracy. It's the only way. Quit begging for freedom and vote for it. Quit begging for equality and vote for it. Quit saying you are somebody and prove it, vote for it. assosactualdemocracy.com.


Action Alert!! #Floodwallstreet


In compliment


I agree that a change in the way laws are decided upon is desirable and desperately needed. Does the electorate have access to the facts needed to make an informed decision? The people I talk with everyday have no way to access information over the Internet. They do not have smart phones, cell phones or computers. They get most of their information from newspapers, talk radio, and Fox News-like sources. There are many Americans that are still against Obama Care and would like to spend time repealing it.

I believe the American public is not capable of understanding the important decisions that need to be made for their future because there are too many details involved to be translated into a yes/no vote.

For example - What should the US do with the thousands of nuclear warheads it already has? Or Why hasn’t Glass-Steagall been reinstated? Or Why hasn’t WTC Buildings’ Collapse on 9/11 been thoroughly investigated? Or Why haven't the big banks been broken up?

A lot of Americans are apathetic.


Jefferson said, in his first inaugural speech, that it is frequently said man is not wise enough to govern himself, then he should govern others? You are one of the people, I am one of the people. We advise ourselves of what's going on. Most people do. The roads, airports, utilities, newspapers, universities, are all built and run by people. The people have built the nation, they are at least as competent as our Representatives. If two heads are better than one then 200,000,000 million are better than 538. There are no special people, better able to govern than anyone else.


You have put a lot of faith in the American people.

Contrast electing a US President to participating directly in crafting legislation.
The candidates compete for delegates, debate issues, and present arguments supporting their election. The legislative process would be similar but with more formality.

Recently the American people elected the worst US Presidents for two terms against considering a different candidate.

Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, G.W. Bush.

Nixon took the US off the gold standard which permanently destabilized the US dollar. Gave us Watergate scandal. First US President to resign.

Reagan gave us Reaganomics which led to widest gaps between rich and poor. Increased government spending and lowered taxes which led to highest US debt ever. Deregulated business. Allowed off shoring middle class jobs.

Bush gave us 9/11 attacks, Afghanistan War, Iraq War, Bank Bailout.

The Democrats were on the right track when Lyndon Johnson left office.

Blame the American people for electing Nixon, Reagan, and G.W. Bush twice.


That gold standard you seem to like is a tool of the ruling class. The populists of the late 1800's knew that. You should learn about fiat currency also


You are correct. But the President isn't directly elected either. There'ss the Electoral college. And Judges are appointed by the President with consent from the Senate, so they aren't voted for either. The people know their "participation" in Democracy is sham. They know their vote isn't a vote for a law or an officer of the government. Hamilton made sure that the "special people", the landed, educated, intelligentsia, aristocratic people, made the laws, picked the few leaders, and kept command and control of the country. And it has lasted until today. I've pointed this out elsewhere. Here's a quote: YOU DON'T LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY. YOU LIVE IN A REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC.


You only voted for someone else to make decisions and to vote 'for you'.

We REQUIRE an ACTUAL DEMOCRACY An Actual Democracy is one where the people vote directly on the laws, Vote directly for the Executive officers and directly for the Judicial officers. Nothing Else is Democracy

We need a Constitutional Amendment: something along these lines:

  2. The President and Vice President of the United States shall be elected directly by the people.
  3. One ninth of the Federal Judiciary shall be elected every year by the citizens of their respective jurisdictions. Currently serving judges will be elected in reverse order of their years of service, longest serving is next to be elected until all have been elected.
  4. The right of citizens Of the United States to directly vote for the laws under which they live, to directly vote for the President and Vice President, and to directly vote for the Judiciary, shall not be abridged by the United States or by any State.

It is essential to quit begging for representation and to represent ourselves. It is essential to quit begging for equality and freedom and to vote for them.

The Association for the Advancement of Actual Democracy. HTTP://WWW.ASSOSACTUALDEMOCRACY.COM assoc.for.actual.democracy@gmail.com P.O. Box 464, Teaneck, NJ 07666 Join up. Support the Association. Set up offices today. Conventions annually. Victory in 5 to seven years. It's only the Nation's future, a "MORE PERFECT" Nation's.

We must quit delegating our responsibility and our power. It's being used against us and against our best interest. Have fun. Fight the good fight. Change the world.

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 2 years ago


Excellent outlook and point of view. Thanks for another excellent article on organizing.

[+] -5 points by 99nproud (2697) 1 year ago

HK Occupy Cntrl regroups


"Thousands of protesters regrouped in central Hong Kong on Friday to push their call for democracy, a day after the government called off talks with students amid a two-week standoff that has shaken communist China's capitalist hub."

Peacefu protest! Solidarity

[-] 3 points by grapes (4573) 1 year ago

There were and could be more cyberattacks on Hong Kong People's messages leaking out of China. The U.S. will likely be, in any case, an asthmatic big bad wolf blowing at the houses of the three little pigs. As far as a Communist Party's hogging power by any means is concerned, measured asthmatic huffings and puffings may not achieve much aside from having U.S. computers crashed and data breached.

From a strictly legal standpoint, the U.K. having the legal basis, not the U.S., should be gunning at China for the breach of agreement but China has kept on insisting its "sovereignty" (actually reneging on promise) be respected which will probably be its undoing.


HK Occupy Central upd:


"The standoff between Hong Kong’s government and protesters who have taken control of vital avenues entered its third week on Sunday with no signs of a resolution, as the student leaders of the demonstration appealed to President Xi Jinping of China to accept their position, which was then flatly rejected by Hong Kong’s leader."

China is clearly breaking it's agreement to allow free elections & the people are justified in their peaceful protests.

[-] 2 points by grapes (4573) 1 year ago





Activisms future IS Arisleyda Tapia!!


Solidarity with the front line activists!

Occupy supports you


Physicians For Social Responsibility on the March!

This weekend in New York City, PSR members will be marching in the health contingent of the People's Climate March, the largest climate action in history. Just ahead of the U.N. Summit on Climate Change, PSR and other health professionals are calling for preventative action to avoid the worst impacts of runaway climate change. PSR has helped organize the March and numerous solidarity events being held around the country. Please join us and help push for a healthy future for our planet. Sign up here for details.

PSR Hosts Health Impact Workshop in NYC

On Saturday, September 20th, the day before the People's Climate March, PSR is presenting an educational workshop. "Health Impacts of Climate Change and Action for Clean Energy Opportunities" is aimed at health professionals as well as the general public. It will focus on how people's lives and health are threatened by climate disruption and what role we can play to repair the damage. The event will be held at St. John's College/Manhattan Campus in room 109 at 2:15pm. Sign up here for more details.