What is the worst charity in the world? by Blinkoftheeye in AskReddit

[–]meatard_hunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe PETA can't but you can do a lot by simply eating vegan a few days per week. When enough people do that this will:

  • Reduce greenhouse gas emissions,
  • Reduce water usage and pollution,
  • Reduce demand for meat and then supply and then the number of animals suffering.

"If we want food to remain cheap we need to stop putting it in our cars" by JoJoAran in environment

[–]meatard_hunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes. Meat-centered diets are extremely wasteful.

Instead of directly raising plant foods, you cultivate grains and beans to feed cows, wasting 90% of the stuff in the process to the cow's metabolism.

The result is an unhealthy, environmentally damaging and unethical food.

It's unhealthy because:

  • Saturated fats and cholesterol,
  • Concentrated environmental toxins and antibiotics and their breakdown products,
  • Foodborne diseases due to poor health conditions, unnatural diets, cultivation of resistant bacteria strains, mad cow disease due to forced cannibalism,

It's environmentally damaging because of:

  • Water usage,
  • Water pollution,
  • Nitrous oxide and methane emissions,
  • Energy consumption,
  • Land use.

Animal farming is unethical because:

  • Sentient beings that can feel pain are subject to a life of reclusion and torture,
  • Sentient beings are killed and thus deprived of a happy life,
  • All animal foods and most uses of animals can be easily replaced.

Vegans/Vegetarians of reddit, What are your best arguments that could convince me to stop eating meat? by sarockk in AskReddit

[–]meatard_hunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Significantly decrease your chances of dying from a heart attack.

This is true. Dead animal flesh is full of saturated fatty acids and cholesterol. Cholesterol (dietary) has been demonstrated to cause coronary heart disease.

Another reason is that dead animal flesh may be contaminated with mad cow disease. source

Prions, the agent behind mad cow disease, are utterly indestructible by kitchen processing. source

Photos: PETA's Secret Slaughter of Kittens, Puppies that Fail to Find a Home by armchairdetective in worldnews

[–]meatard_hunter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess that is the case, but don't you think that people who donate money to PETA and other animal rights organisations would like to know what the money is being used for?

What makes you think people don't know what PETA does? PETA does a lot of other things. Humane euthanasia is only one of them. They provide subsidized neutering, vet services, conduct farm investigations, make a stink about fur and they push cruelty-free diets.

Just collecting them and putting them down doesn't seem like a great option.

Unfortunately there isn't another option. The point is that they use a humane euthanasia by injection technique that makes it painless. Many shelters don't do that and use far more barbaric and painful methods like gas chambers.

Atlanta vegan blogger vanishes in Texas by holyshitaki in Austin

[–]meatard_hunter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We were born with canines and lateral incisors for a reason.

I presume you believe those are for eating meat?

The worst is vegan parents that come into the restaurant where I work with their infant and feed them only vegan fare. GUESS WHAT, YOUNG CHILDREN NEED A LOT OF NUTRIENTS TO BE HEALTHY, not just the stuff you've decided will make you cooler or a better person!

We don't have to consume eggs, fish, meat or dairy for health. We can get all the protein, calories, essential fatty acids and fiber we need from plants. Here is the position of the American Dietetic Association :

J Am Diet Assoc. 2009 Jul;109(7):1266-82.


It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful adequate, and may provide health benefits benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.


Silicon Valley’s Fake Eggs Are Better Than the Real Thing: “They’re 19 percent cheaper, have a longer shelf life, and are safer to use” by runnerdood in technology

[–]meatard_hunter -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

TIL you don't need carbohydrates.

EDIT: I was being sarcastic. Only low-carbers think carbohydrate intake is harmful.

Carbohydrate restriction, in contrast, when extreme, is actually or potentially linked to an array of adverse health effects.

These adverse effects stem from wholesale reductions in carbohydrate intake and do not pertain to shifting calories within the carbohydrate class from sugars and refined grains to whole grains, fruits, and vegetables, a practice with widespread support.

There is evidence that weight loss attributable to carbohydrate restriction is in part body water loss.

Gluconeogenesis consumes water along with glycogen, and ketone bodies cause increased renal excretion of sodium and water (317).

Studies indicate that dizziness, fatigue, and headache are common side effects of ketosis (318).

Ketosis is potentially harmful, with possible long-term sequelae, including hyperlipidemia, impaired neutrophil function, optic neuropathy, osteoporosis, and protein deficiency, as well as alterations in cognitive function. Children on ketogenic diets as part of an antiseizure regimen have developed dehydration, constipation, and kidney stones. In response to ketosis, renal calcium excretion increases. To make up for the loss of calcium in urine, it is mobilized from bone to circulation. One study of adolescents on a ketogenic diet showed decreased bone mineral density after just three months, despite vitamin D and calcium supplementation. Sustained ketosis causes bone resorption, suggesting a risk for osteoporosis.

People of reddit with face tattoos… what is your profession? by maverick66 in AskReddit

[–]meatard_hunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll also bet that he is working 50 hours per week while his wife is banging the delivery guy; from the animal products he consumes mindlessly his veins get more and more clogged with cholesterol each passing day while tumors grow slowly but certainly in his colon, thanks to his diet and the noxious mattress fumes. By age 60 he'll be all used up and sick, while the vegan lady will still look like she's 30 something.

Vegans by t3rneado in funny

[–]meatard_hunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was never against the idea of eating dairy since no animals have to die or suffer to produce it



[–]meatard_hunter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, and vegetable-centered diets aren't?

Exactly. Plant-centerd diets are an order of magnitude less wasteful than meat-centered ones.

You have to look at how much we grow that we actually eat that doesn't go to textile production, or the production of other food ingredients.

Irrelevant. We're talking about food.

My rebuttal of your statements:

The saturated fats and cholesterol you state is necessary for human diets. An overabundance of these is detrimental, just like the arsenic and formaldehyde we already produce naturally.
  • Saturated fats are not essential, and they are harmful unless their intake is limited. Animal products in general provide too much saturated fat.
  • Cholesterol is not a dietary requirement. The optimal dietary cholesterol intake is zero.

Environmental toxins? What toxins?

Dioxin for example.

Also, those antibiotics you're talking about are necessary to keep disease from running rampant in the animal population.

They are necessary for large-scale industrial meat production.

I fail to see how animal water usage, which gets recycled,

Please educate yourself about ground water depletion. Water tables take time to fill.

is damaging to the environment more-so than vegetable water usage.

In addition to water directly needed by animal farming, you have to take into account water required for producing all the food they ingest.

Water pollution? All kinds of animals defecate in water. It's a natural process.

Again, you fail to understand quantities. We are talking of billions of animals each year. It's not because of a few pigs shitting. Do you know how many animals are used each year for farming?

Nitrous oxide and methane emissions? Animal farts? Really?

Again you show your ignorance before even doing a five-second research. Here is what an intelligent person would find upon googling "animal farming nitrous oxide":

Primary human-related sources of N2O are agricultural soil management, animal manure management, sewage treatment, mobile and stationary combustion of fossil fuel, adipic acid production, and nitric acid production.

That vehicle you drive puts out more than a cow does.

Please read this: Farm Animals More Damaging To Climate Than Cars

These 'sentient beings' are only subject to a life of reclusion and torture if the companies are doing it wrong.

It's unhealthy because:

You're eating plants that have been sprayed with poisons intended to kill pests

Animals eat the same plants and these toxins accumulate in their bodies. By eating animal products, you eat concentrated pesticides.

There's a lack of dietary protein that is essential to a healthy and balanced diet

Your ignorance level is so high I wonder if you are trolling.

Plant-based foods provide perfectly adequate proteins without any particular effort.

Foodborne diseases due to poor storage conditions, and unsantiary processing, such as e. coli and botulism

E. Coli in plants is generally due to contamination by animal manure; it also applies to animal foods. So does botulism, which happens in canned foods.

It's environmentally damaging because of: Water usage, to water the plants Water pollution, because after you spray them with the aforementioned pesticides, you wash them off with the water you use to water them and that soaks into the soil and hits the water table Also with land use. Far more than what's used to house cows/pigs/chickens, etc

Looks like you didn't take Basic intelligence 101. What do you think the animals feed on?

How many times do I have to repeat?

  • It takes fifteen pounds of grains to produce one pound of beef.
  • One pound of ground beef provides 1200 kcal of energy.
  • Fifteen pounds of grains provide 30,000 kcal of energy.

Congratulations you have just wasted 96% of the energy!!

You don't need gasoline and diesel powered combines and harvesters to process animals

Animals don't magically grow!! You need to feed them plants!!! Intensive farming, as practices today, is necessary to produce the huge quantities of meat and dairy people eat.

That causes massive pollution.

Vegetable farming is unethical because:

There is a high percentage of vegetables that cannot be picked by machine, thus companies hire immigrant workers that are paid peanuts to stand out in the hot sun for 10-12 hours a day to pick the vegetables

The same immigrants pick the vegetables used to feed the animals, and in much greater numbers.

You are introducing foreign plants and disrupting the ecosystem, either by draining the soil of nutrients, or by causing an artificial rise in pests

The same foreign plants are introduced into the ecosystem to feed animals, and in much greater quantities.

TL;DR: Everything you said about how raising animals for food is bad can also be applied to vegetables. There's pros and cons to both sides

TL;DR: You are officially a meatard.

11 months of lifting - progress pics! [xpost from xxfitness] by Sulidae in Fitness

[–]meatard_hunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do you assert otherwise?

I'm sorry to bother you, but that's what the research says.

On average, vegans and vegetarians are in better health than their meat-eating counterparts.

For instance, they have lower cholesterol levels.

It is well-established that meat consumption increases cholesterol levels and leads to heart disease.

Animals accumulate environmental toxins in their fats, and when you eat them, you get a concentrated dose of toxins.

As such, vegetarian women have much less environmental contaminants in their breast milk.

Processed meats, and especially cured ones, have been repeatedly shown to increase risks of colorectal cancer.

The list goes on, and on, and on. We've been had by years of meat & dairy industry propaganda. I'm so glad I managed to get out of it before it's too late.


[–]meatard_hunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see how eating a grilled steak frequently can cause high cholesterol\

Whaat? Are you fucking kidding me?

Let's say you regularly eat an 8 ounce zero inch fat sirloin, that provides you with a whopping 11 grams of sat fats and 152 mg of cholesterol.

Sat fats, dietary cholesterol and their combination cause a worsening of your blood cholesterol.

When vegan ideas backfire by Amgroma in funny


hacksoncode wrote:

If you care about the environment, fewer people should be your #1 priority.

You clearly have NO idea what you're talking about.

  • Do you know that meat is a VERY LARGE source of greenhouse gases? Almost AS LARGE AS TRANSPORTATION, if not bigger?
  • Do you know that 5x1010 animals are fed to be killed every year?
  • Do you realise that instead of eating plants directly, eating them through animals wastes 90% of the calories?
  • Do you have any idea how much water the meat industry consumes?

Eating meat in the amounts we do is pure madness.


[–]meatard_hunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

we know for a fact that vegetarian life style is not any more healthy than a normal one

Please elaborate or provide sources.

I finally have a reason to make an account. After a year and a half of lurking, a video I saw on the front page a few weeks back inspired me to make something. I give you, homemade bacon. by IAmBaconsReckoning in pics

[–]meatard_hunter -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

According the United States Department of Agriculture's nutrition database, average U.S. "meatleess" bacon has the following nutritional composition:

  • Calories from fat: 80%
  • Calories from protein: 12%
  • Calories from carbs: 8%

In 100g you wil get 13.3g of saturated fat and 113 mg of cholesterol.

And here are the bad news:

Also, bacon is made from formerly living pigs. Watch this to see how smart they are.

So don't eat too much bacon.

PETA killed 90 percent of adopted animals by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]meatard_hunter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are not "adopted" animals. It's part of their mission. It's called humane euthanasia. The reason is that there are way more animals than homes willing to adopt them — this includes perfectly healthy, sociable and cute animals.

So instead of lettimg them live in a cage for the rest of their lives, they are put to sleep humanely by PETA.

This website explains it all:

PETA provides no-cost, veterinarian-supervised humane medical euthanasia to any animal in their community who requires it for a current crisis of illness, injury, or emotional devastation. This service is available to animals 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, nights, weekends, and holidays. Every animal should have access to euthanasia when they are suffering, regardless of their owner's ability to pay. Because of PETA, animals in the greater Norfolk community do.

You are being tricked to believe that PETA pretends to find a home for these animal and then secretly kills them out of greed or for ideological reasons. This is not true.

That's just the propaganda spin that the PR company behind this campaign, Berman & co. is putting. This PR company works for the meat and fast-food industries. They were behind campaigns opposing legislation against drunk driving. They were opposed to legislation against second-hand smoke. They fight against minimum wage increases. They want you to stop worrying about mercury in fish. They opposed trans-fat labeling. They are evil.

Atlanta vegan blogger vanishes in Texas by holyshitaki in Austin

[–]meatard_hunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point is that, evolutionarily, it's what our bodies were designed to do, from eating all the way to digestion.

If our bodies were "designed" to eat meat as you say, how come we get heart disease when meat is a major part of our diet?

Overly Manly Man on Nutrition by doovidooves in AdviceAnimals

[–]meatard_hunter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is safer to get your iron from plant-based foods, since in these foods, iron is not in the potentially harmful heme form.

There are excellent plant-based iron sources such as lentils, beans, parsley or seaweed. They also provide many nutrients that meat won't provide: fiber, antioxidants, carbohydrates and phytochemicals.

You will also avoid the unavoidable cholesterol and saturated fat that comes with red meat.

If you eat your red meat rare, you expose yourself to pathogens - from bovine leukaemia virus to various bacteria.

Killing those pathogens requires high-temperature cooking methods which produce very harmful, carcinogenic chemicals.

And you can't escape mad cow prions by cooking.

On the other hand, cured meat is especially harmful (think bacon) because of the high sodium and nitrosamine contents.

This anti-milk "fact sheet" been making the rounds on my Facebook feed. Is there any truth to it at all? by GemberBonbon in skeptic

[–]meatard_hunter 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah but is it safe for adults? Drinking milk past infancy, drinking another species milk, drinking milk from animals fed an unnatural grain diet, drinking milk from sick animals... are these safe?

What does science say?

Here are some things science says.

Article 1:

Consumption of cow's milk (CM) by infants and toddlers has adverse effects on their iron stores Source

Article 2:

Food-derived peptides, specifically those derived from milk, may adversely affect health by increasing the risk of insulin-dependent diabetes. Source

Article 3:

... Consumption of soy protein stimulates insulin secretion to a lower extent than casein despite the fact that both are high-quality proteins. ... Also, soy protein increases insulin sensitivity, whereas casein has the opposite effect. ... These metabolic changes result in a decrease in lipid depots and ceramide which reduce hepatic lipotoxicity, whereas casein produces the opposite effect. Source

Tired of veganism being used in place of 'fad diet' and 'ed'. Does the body acceptance community have a problem with vegans? by hlkolaya in vegan

[–]meatard_hunter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I personally am tired of "ismisms". Everyone has their pet "ism" these days. Everyone is a victim and everyone feels discriminated against.

The recipe is simple, you pick something people don't like about people, find an adjective, tack on an -ism et voilà! You can go on your little crusade.

Overly Manly Man on Nutrition by doovidooves in AdviceAnimals


I don't know what's manly about meat. Men are supposed to be intelligent and rely on rational, scientific data and not on emotional bullshit.

Iron in meat is in heme iron form, which is considered harmful. Example


[–]meatard_hunter -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

This is propaganda that is pushed by a public relations firm called Berman & co. that works for the catering, meat, fish and tobacco industries.

This website explains what PETA does and why it's no secret.

TL;DR: Shelters are overflowing with abandoned pets because of irresponsible owners who fail to neuter them or encourage breeders. Euthanasia is the only feasible option.

2+ years after the Fukushima catastrophe, predicted eventual radiation deaths are still zero. Still SO much safer than coal or oil. by [deleted] in worldnews


Nice propaganda, bro.


Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment, Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, vol. 1181.

TIL that vegetarian activist group PETA wants to rename the gritty Tenderloin district in San Francisco to Tempeh, a "cruelty-free" meat substitute, saying "the city deserves a neighborhood named after a delicious cruelty-free food instead of the flesh of an abused animal." by funkykingston in todayilearned

[–]meatard_hunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your decription of the tempeh manufacturing process is totally irrelevant to my claim that most of the taste we get comes from plants.

Also yeast is yummy. Mmmh bread, mmh nutritional yeast. Yummy yummy yeast. And tempeh is delicious.