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Electricity for the world from cars.


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    Lejan .

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    Oct 18 2013: Hi Allan,

    you truly have a very rich and highly imaginative creativity, and you do not shy to think 'out of the box', which makes for the wide variety of your ideas.

    Yet I like to suggest to you to take one idea at a time and have a first check on its overall energy balance.

    Try to do this with the two following rules in your mind:

    1) Action equals reaction
    2) Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be transformed

    Try to develop a feeling how the energy flows in a system, what it does and how it changes.

    Let me do this with your first idea with 'bicycle generators attached to all tires' of a car' to find out how it behaves.

    If the car isn't moving, so are the tires and the generators attached do not generate energy. So far so good. Now the car moves, the tires too and the generators attached produce energy. But now comes the important question, what makes the car move? In order to move the car, it burns fuel, which is a liquid form of stored energy. Therefore the original cause what makes the generators produce electricity is fuel. So the highest efficiency for the generators to produce electricity was, if the care engine was directly attached to them, because anything else in between would only create losses.

    So you transformed chemically stored energy (fuel) into electrical energy (generators) but where is the benefit to do this with a car engine? For this we already use - more or less - optimized power plants to produce electricity and this way much more effective than a car engine could. So where is your intended benefit?

    Additionally, the battery in the car adds weight, the generators add weight and create a lot of friction (moment of resistance), the copper wiring adds weight and all of this reduces the miles per gallon dramatically. So overall you are loosing more energy in your setup as if the same amount of fuel was burned in a specialized power-plant to produce electrical energy.

    Do you understand what I mean?
    • Oct 20 2013: I gave a reply above. Didn't know about the reply button. Sry still new to the site
  • Oct 25 2013: The unit that generates power for the lights on a bicycle is called a dynamo. Cars have something similar called an alternator, which is used to charge the battery (needed for starting the car). Sadly, the car alternator is not capable of generating more energy than you have to put in. This is because it is simply impossible to generate more energy than you put in no matter what mechanism you use. Such hypothetical systems are called perpetuum mobile (Latin for eternal motion), and Lejan properly explains the fundamental reason why they don't work.
  • Oct 20 2013: Maybe I should be more clear. This was never intended for a gas powered vehicle. It is an idea for an electric battery bank car that produces electricity over and over again filling the battery bank over and over again thus leading to the power transfer to say walmart. You pull in. Plug in. Drain the cars battery bank down to a safe opperating level and transfer all that power to said walmarts battery bank. Possible for hones as well. Now would a more efficient battery be needed for the banks. Maybe. But other than that I don't see the problem. And I deff don't see a problem with the main idea which was putting a magnetic system along road ways to react when vehicles PSS through the magnetic fields. My only question on that one would have to be what speeds can the cars go throughsaid mmagnetic field and still be recognized so to speak or is there a field to speed ratio that can be proved
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      Oct 20 2013: ' ...an electric battery bank car that produces electricity over and over again ... '

      How? Solar? Apply this again:

      1) Action equals reaction

      '... magnetic system along road ways to react when vehicles PSS through the magnetic fields ... '

      1) Action equals reaction

      Cars induce electricity (action) and slow down proportionally (reaction) while doing so. To keep the car moving it needs more energy than it has produced by induction. Thus - no gain in electrical energy!
      • Oct 20 2013: The energy produced by the magnetic system on the rd has nothing to do with the car. The car is just setting off the system by simply driving or passing** through the magnetic field and then the energy is transferred to business and homes off of major highways. And the electric car is powered by solar wind and bycicle generators on the tires. It is constantly producing energy the two ideas are completely separate
  • Oct 11 2013: we could make a static electricity system involving our cars and collect it in one blocked channel down the road almost instantaneously producing and collecting electric current off into banks for the world to use
  • Oct 11 2013: One could also put systems on cieling fans in a house or on helicopters for the airport or planes for that matter.