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It is written in the Mishna Brurah siman 320:22 that, on shabbas, one should squeeze the lemon juice onto the sugar instead straight into the liquid because it could be lemon juice is nowadays considered like tutim v'rimonim.

Would one be allowed to squeeze lemon juice onto ice (slush)? Namely, is that considered a solid or a liquid for the purposes of this halacha?

I remember hearing this question a while ago, but never heard an answer.

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Are you talking about pouring lemon juice that is already squeezed, or squeezing it directly from a lemon onto the ice? –  yoel Nov 18 '12 at 5:19
Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/23448/5 –  Seth J Jan 9 '13 at 19:01

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Regarding the definition (Geder) of what a liquid is:

The Shulchan Aruch HaRav writes in Seder Bircat Hanehenin 8:8

אוכל שנימוח כ״כ עך שראוי לשתייה - יצא מתורה אוכל. וכן:משקה שנקרש עד שראוי לאכילה - יצא מתורת משקה - אפי' יש בו טופח ע״מ להטפיח

(And in my own free translation:)

A food which has dissolved to the extent that it is suitable to drink it - it ceases to be food (and becomes a liquid)

Similarly, a liquid which has congealed to the extent that it is suitable to be eaten - ceases to be a liquid - even though it is still somewhat wet.

So it depends on how you would consume the 'slush':

If you eat it - which would involve processing the food with your mouth like chewing or sucking (like on hard candy) - the it's a solid [see Minchat Yitzchak Vol2 Siman 110], however, if you drink it - then it's a liquid.

(Presumably it would be a liquid - as you generally drink slurpy's and the like with a straw)

Just for completeness:

Even though the Mishna Brurah seems to permit squeezing the lemon on the sugar without extra conditions being met, there are other Poskim which only allow this when

1) All the lemon juice is absorbed into the sugar (with no excess liquid) - [ Chazon Ish Siman 56 S"K 1]

2) You want to eat the sugar/lemon mixture (and,say, only add a little exra liquid). But if you're planning to eventially make a lemonade out of it - it's forbidden as if he initially sqeezed it on liquid. [Chazon Ish Siman 56 S"K 7, Ktzot HaShulchan 126 S"K 19]

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Do you have any reason to assume the laws of brachos parallel those of squeezing on shabbat? What about the definition of liquid and solid in regards cooking on shabbat? cooking basar bechalav? various rules of ritual purity? –  Double AA Nov 20 '12 at 0:58
@DoubleAA: The terms for food/drink used regarding the laws of squeezing is Ochel/Mashkeh (like in Birkot Hanehenin) however regarding Bishul / Baser VHalav the term used is davar yavesh/davar lach... so it seems fair here to use the definition of Ochel and Mashkeh. –  Danield Nov 20 '12 at 7:13

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