Plasma gasification test facility at Integrated Environmental Technologies.
Plasma gasification test facility at Integrated Environmental Technologies. - 
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Bob Moon: A little later in today's program we'll be talking to an author who's been trashing the idea of energy independence -- He says it's just not realistically possible -- but some of the innovators looking to free us from our oil habit are promoting an idea that could turn one man's trash into another's energy source. At the same time, they suggest their idea could help clean up the mess we're making of the planet.

From our innovations desk at North Carolina Public Radio, Janet Babin reports.


[Sound of thunderstorm]

Not the thunder, but the lightning that goes with it, and in this case, the lightning is contained inside a reaction chamber and the bolt never ends. This man-made lightning is so hot, most things put inside the chamber completely vaporize in seconds.

The technology's called plasma gasification and proponents say it could be the answer to our growing trash problem. Although it uses intense heat, developers insist it's not incineration. The "not-in-my-backyard crowd" has complained for years about emissions from burning trash.


That's Dan Cohn of MIT. He was part of a team that developed a plasma gasification device for a company called Integrated Environmental Technologies. IET says its plasma melter can take a ton of trash down to five cubic feet in less than a minute.


The stainless steel chamber where the lightning happens is about five feet long by three-and-a-half-feet wide. Before the sneaker can go inside the chamber, it has to be shredded, so IET's president Jeff Surma and four engineers take a band saw to it.

Jeff Surma: Andy looks like he's having fun here.

Babin: How many engineers does it take to shred a sneaker?


Surma: It's going into the plasma zone. So first, the shoe gets pre-processed in the gasifier and then what doesn't get completely gasified there gets dropped into the high-temperature plasma zone.

That plasma is about the temperature of the sun. Most of the sneaker is vaporized in seconds. The rest comes out looking like a blackish glass bead. IET says beads like this can be used as fill in road construction.

Since it was mostly plastic, the sneaker also created about four gallons of a gas that could be used to make alternative fuel. Jeff Surma says rising energy prices have more firms interested in his invention.


Robert Do: You know, we would be taking away a large business for the landfill people and the incinerators, so waste company do not want to see this technology come out. On the other hand, if we produce power, we will be infringing on the coal business and fossil fuel burning business.


Steve Boton: We see waste as a signal of design failure because products and materials can ideally be designed so they can maintain their flows within closed loops.


I'm Janet Babin for Marketplace.