Why Marx Was A Clueless Idiot- Communism and Developed Nations

The Red Prophet

The development of Modern Industry, therefore, cuts from under its feet the very foundation on which the bourgeoisie produces and appropriates products. What the bourgeoisie, therefore, produces, above all, are its own grave-diggers. Its fall and the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable.

—(The Communist Manifesto)

Well, not really.  The Commie god Karl Marx predicted revolution.  And revolution came.  But it was not the proletariat that rose up as he foresaw, but backward, feudal, agrarian societies.  It was all backwards.  The Commie prophets and gods kept saying how the Western developed nations will follow suit.   But the West never did rise up.  And no Red dialectic could answer why.  They argued, they waited and some are still waiting.  But the answer is very simple.  Their god and creator Karl Marx was a clueless idiot who had no idea how a human being and society works.

Revolutions are usually lead by small bands, they come in broken societies.  Even when the majority of the society is disaffected the people still do not revolt.  The most popular “revolution” was the American Revolution.  It was supported, more or less, by about a third of the colonists.  Another third could not care less, and the last third wanted to live under the crown.  The rest of the revolts came from tiny minorities in states that failed, where the police and army could not keep the status quo.  The majority of the population neither supported not participated in the revolutions.  The support was gotten after victory through terror, reforms, or by simply gaining power.  There never was a revolution of the proletariat.  And most likely there never will be.  The reason for that is quite simple.  Social mobility.

Social mobility is a part of a developed industrial society.  Even if a tiny portion of the proletariat achieves success, that success is real and is a dream of all of the working class.  And when one dreams of becoming part of the rich ruling class one will never attempt to overthrow the class he wants to join.


No. Its not, and never will be.


And that in a nutshell is why Marx’ dream never came true.  Another thing Marx failed to consider is that most of the developed states are democracies (those that were not in his time later became ones).  In a democracy the people have a voice, no matter how weak.  They vote and through that vote take part in the process of governance so they do not revolt against the very representatives they put into office.  All one needs to do (in theory at least) is wait till the next election and vote those who have failed the people out of office.  Democracy provides for a regular, peaceful “revolt.”  The need to rise up is diminished greatly when one has hope of changing the rulers regularly.  Its a vent that allows the disaffected to feel like they did something.  Even when ones candidate loses there is hope as in a few years time there will be an another election.  Every few years a different part of the society feels like it won.  When one party stays in power long its due to the majority of the people being content with them.  So there is no need for revolt.

In most of the states that communism came to there was no vent, and there was hardly any social mobility.  Not so in industrialized states.  In time the lives of the proletariat improved enough for them to not want to revolt as each small improvement meant that the anger dissipated.  Working conditions were improved, hours were better, pay was raised, unions provided protection, laws were implemented to protect the workers.  Each a small step, but enough to forestall any revolt.  Of course many of those changes were won with blood of the workers, but in time the ruling class realized it can only oppress so much.  Now in many industrialized states the workers have a say in how the companies are run.  Instead of being against the ruling owner class they work with them for the common good.  And in such a society there is no way that a revolution could come.

When the Red revolt came at the back end of the Great War in Russia there was a small window of opportunity for a wider revolution of the proletariat.  But the Western nation were able to stem the revolt by giving some rights to the workers, and the situation stabilized by force or peacefully.  Even during the Great Depression there was little chance of a widespread revolt.  Everyone suffered.  Even many of the rich.  After the Second World War there was no chance that the workers would rise up.  The West was rebuilding after WWII and there was prosperity and great social mobility.  Plus thanks to the Cold War communism became the enemy.  Even when workers in Europe protested this and that, they still did not want a Soviet type of communism in their countries.  And that was the only communism they knew, and it was not pretty.

In the end Marx’ creation failed on all fronts, simply because it, like its god, failed to understand human nature and society.  The idea itself is a noble one.  In theory it eliminates poverty, provides care for all, and creates equality.  Sounds great.  But.  Yes, the big BUT.  People don’t want to be equal.  They want more than basic needs.  They want to be better, and to live better than others.  Its simple human nature, greed and ego are a great part of it.  In theory any American who is not rich should be for higher taxes for the rich.  But most do not want to tax the rich.  Not because they love them so.  But simply because they still believe in the American dream.  And just as they wont rise up and try to destroy the class they want to join, they also do not want to tax the class they hope to become a part of.

Today in America we can argue about the rich creating jobs and how taxing them higher may or may not affect those potential jobs.  But mainly no one want to tax the rich because they believe that one day they too will become rich themselves, and then they wont want to pay those high taxes.  Its a hope, one that is equal to straw clutching, but one that is real.  Millions play lotto every week even though their chances of winning are minuscule.  Yet they play.  Social mobility is not different.  That tiny chance of “moving up in the world” exists and the hope is strong.  And there is contentment with ones place in a society even when one stopped dreaming of making it.  Modern, developed, industrial societies provide for stable, peaceful lives with many distractions and there is no time nor is there a need felt to change ones station.  If that need arises there is opportunity for change, even if that change is lateral and not upward, its still a change.

So no Comrade Marx, and all you deluded Reds who are still around.  The revolution is not inevitable, in fact its as likely as the coming of the god you don’t believe in.

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  1. As they say, almost everything he wrote about communism was wrong…but everything he wrote about capitalism was right.

    • No, he wasn’t right about it or anything else. Marx based all his attacks on capitalism upon the dealings he frequently had with London loan sharks, the only “capitalists” he ever dealt with, and was constantly in debt to. Try as he might in his London years, the only unpaid worker he ever found was his own housekeeper whom he did not pay in her years of service, even having his son, whom Marx never acknowledged. And Monarchy and Aristocracy were the architects of European class systems, not capitalists. Marx was a fool.

  2. Well the way he described how capitalism exploited the working class at the time yes, but that was not really hard to figure out, all one had to do was have the power of observation. the rest… rubbish

    • All of it was rubbish.

  3. I had a nice little chortle after reading this. Nice one! Raf

    • I’m here all week 😀
      Though someone just handed me my coat….

  4. Thanks! I now have a better understanding on the unknown Marx brother. If only this one had been Harpo.

  5. I was rather disappointed when I read this article for the lack of understanding of history and Marxism itself. Marxism is based on something called dialectical materialism, or historical materialism, basically: “the history of man is the history of class struggles”, marxism is based on the theory that capitalism is a contradictory system in which the productive forces are alienated by money and capital. With that said, following this Marxist doctrine there is a high possibility for revolution at any point in the future, which you denied.

    Secondly, the history, after Karl Marx had written the manifesto of the communist party many small revolutions occurred throughout Europe, the governments compromised with the revolutionaries through welfare programs which alleviated the need for revolution. Socialist factions were created, organized and represented in the parliaments. The biggest revolution in Europe was the German revolution of 1918 – 1919 led by Rosa Luxembourg, which only failed because of the strong organization of the German government and the failed support from Lenin and his “comrades”.

    The only reason why communism never sprouted in the US was because the amount of propaganda the nation produced to press down any leftist ideology.

    Social mobility is quite low in nations which are traditionally conservative or liberal, it is much higher in nations where the standard of welfare is higher, like Sweden or the rest of the Scandinavian states, social mobility would not exist in the Utopian communist society however.

    My final point is that Marx was not a clueless idiot, I think that was very immature of you to write that. Marx is the reason why I can go to school and not have to work 12 hours a day, hes the reason why I don’t have to live on the street and wake up 4 in the morning to go to work, and the same goes for you, even though Marx did not impact western Europe through violent revolution he did change the way we thought from a economic and conservative mindset, to a humanitarian progressive mindset which was really important to the future generations(us).

    • You need to revise your history my boy…i think your future generation is fucked and have no clue about history itself. I think the majority of you young people should be put in front of a firing squad like the rest of those 99 percent and or people over profit liberal commie groups that are revolting in the world right know. Marx was a lazy bastard like all commies and liberals they did not want to work but still want to get payed. I cant wait till marshall law and then capitalism can rain supreme once again.

      • I am from former USSR. Born and raised there. Will be glad to feel your shoulder in the firing squad.

  6. No reply, this is a disapointment rlisu

  7. No reply, this is a disappointment rlisu

  8. I was not around, people have lives you know.

    But lets get on with it. Paragraph by paragraph.

    1. While I may not be as well versed on my dialectic as someone who thinks himself a Red I can still read. And even what you posted to contradict my points and show my ignorance shows the ignorance and lack of understanding of Marx and his fellow commies.
    The history of man is not a history of class struggles. Hell many vote against their own class. Look at America. Why would anyone not making millions vote for Republicans? yet they do. Because class is not as important as you lot think. Most people have other priorities. Religion, family, those seem more important to people. And as long as they make a decent wage in decent conditions people will be content while the hope of social mobility lives. So no, in a stable society, like most industrialized democracies, there is hardly any chance of a revolt by the working class against its masters. You lot never got that, its why you failed. People vote against their economic interests for many different reasons. And you never realized that. While yes, it may be good propaganda, its still works. And if you wont realize that, you’ll never get anywhere. People don’t want to destroy a stable society, they want to be a productive, even if insignificant, part of it. So no, history is not about class struggle, never was.

    2. Small revolutions? Did you read my post? Germany was not a stable society. It just lost a war, economy was collapsing, its society was breaking apart, there was a huge power vacuum. And it was not just the commies who tried to rise up. It failed because it was doomed to fail. The Soviets themselves were fighting for their lives, they were in no position to help anyone. And a year later thankfully Poland stopped the Red march to the West.

    3. Sorry, but America not being a Soviet Republic is not due to only propaganda. If you believe that then you have no idea about America. Americans are a conservative people. They don’t really do revolts. At least not for reasons that you would like. The first was over feeling alienated from its leadership and not having any voice. The second was to keep traditional institutions like slavery. Not very radical. America historically was very mobile socially. It has now slowed down, but the idea of social mobility is not dead. And its what people want. They do not want to have the same thing as their neighbours, they want to be netter than them. Simple really. And while that idea lives, communism will never take hold. Then there is the religion of Americans. They are a god fearing people. They don’t want Jesus supplanted by some German Jew. Not going to happen. Millions of Americans work for small companies, they know their owners personally, they wont rise up against them. Surely you must see that. Propaganda has nothing to do with most of it.

    4. You mentioned social mobility. And how its much smaller in certain states. And then you popped up with the commie “no social mobility.” I said this already. People want a better life, or whatever their idea of a better life is. To a lot it means a bigger house, a bigger tv, a nicer car, a nicer holiday. And by offering them none of it you wont gain many members. It goes against everything they believe in. Social welfare states is what we can hope for in industrialized states. Not communism. Marx never got that, you do not seem to either.

    5. And finally, Marx was a clueless idiot, sorry. He is not responsible for my better life and not having to work 12 hour days, or being able to get an education. Marx was not an original, just one of hundreds of “social philosophers” who spouted similar ideas. Its nothing new. The idea that it was Marx who came up with, and is somehow responsible for modern social improvements is absurd. Those positive changes occurred naturally. His claim to fame is that some Russian asshole read him and used his name for his agenda. So no, I wont be thanking uncle Karl for my blessings in life. There were many people before him who came up with these ideas, some several hundreds of years before uncle Karl. Most of them were as clueless and as idealistic as he was. However, not many of them misunderstood human nature as much as he did.
    So no, no apologies. Believing in him is as pointless as believing in the Easter Bunny, or god. Even though he did exist.
    I am a social progressive. A very liberally minded person. But I do not lie to myself and do not live in a cocoon separated from reality of life and human nature. Yes, his ideas, as I mentioned, are nice and all. But not very realistic. And that is what makes him a clueless idiot. No clue about humanity and its nature, and very unrealistic goals and expectations. One could say, a clueless, well intentioned, idiot. We had many of those. Too bad people had to die because of some idiot wrote. We have enough of bloody holy books, don’t need another one.

    • The same system that provided you with flexible working hours and better pay is plundering the third world in the same form with which it used to plunder England during the advent of capitalism. just because situation improved in America, please do not come to the conclusion that those exploitative characteristics of captalism have gone. No they have not. You can read a lot about labour law floutings in countries like India, Indonesia, Philippines etc. Why even child labour, the most evil manifestation of capitalist exploitation. There are over 70 million Children employed to work in various capacities across India. That is even greater than the population of many a European country in the preceding centuries. Now capitalism is in its highest stage, imperialism.

      The phenomenon of “outsourcing” whereby Multi national companies plunder the reserve army of labour in the third world has brought the real wage of the average worker in the world down. Do not have a narrow mindset. The problems of capitalism are not altogether solvable. They can be shifted from one place to another, that is all. Just spurning that problem away as a problem of a different nation state is only an escapist response. As to why the governments of the erstwhile third world are resorting to such policies is that they are not able to follow alternate development policies thanks to agencies like the IMF, World Bank etc who want to implement free market in places where it may lead to large scale displacement, disaster, unemployment, human suffering and primitive accumulation so that the Multi national companies they represent stand to gain the most. you can understand whatever little you understand of democracy by choosing between the two parties that you have and be happy about it. But do not worry, the first salvo against the imperialist domination shall be fired from the third world. Once that perpetuates watch yourself stoop down to the level of a “proletarian”. You will have a better understanding of the contradiction between capital and labor.

      You have to be very clear about certain things. The teachings of Marx do not directly concern you right now. But it teaches a lot of people here in the third world and it is a guide to action to many. Who in turn are the one’s that are responsible for sustaining the profitability of many a multi national company. The creators of value are here not in USA.

      To prove that the history of men is not a history of class struggles you chose the voting pattern in the American elections? Is this the best that you could think of? Subtle differences apart, a choice between those two is not a choice at all.

      Please try to gather a wider understanding of things before passing judgment on who is an Idiot and who is not.
      A human being is socially and historically conditioned. Hence, do not link the greed for wealth as a basic human tendency.Had it been so capitalism would have evolved many centuries ago. In the prevailing social conditions in USA, greed seems to be a human tendancy, that is all. In the third world only survival seems one not greed.

      I am sure a wider study of this phenomenon called globalization will be in order.

      I gather from subsequent posts that there is no part about imperialist globalization and its impact on third world countries in your sociology text books. If my understanding is correct, then I can claim that your educational system itself is at odds with the truth. So go beyond text books and know the world for what it is.

      • And where have I claimed that modern capitalism is good or that it does not oppress the Third World? My piece had nothing to do with the Third World. If you really read it then you would understand that. And not jump to silly conclusions and argue about things that were never mentioned. I have not defended capitalism, modern or old. I wrote this piece to show the idiocy of Marx and his followers.

        And thanks for pointing out my ignorance, several times, but again, you are fighting shadows. Show me where I written about the things you keep harping about?

        And even your claims about oppression and conclusions are stupid and ignorant. Its quite likely that the situation in the Third World will follow what happened in the Western Democracies. In millions people flock to the new cities to work for almost nothing in those new factories built by the multinational corporations. For now they will still work 80 hours weeks for just a couple of dollars a day. But sooner or later their pay and conditions will improve and the multinationals will run out of countries in which the workers are willing to do hard labour for little pay in tragic conditions. So they will improve their pay and conditions. Its a natural course. Again, I am not claiming its right, but this is how the world works, however you label it. It still does not change facts.

        And if those shots will be fired from the Third World, the “First World” wont care. They will instead worry about the price of their iPads going up, not about equality. Sorry to break this to you. But it wont give a shit. The multinationals will just move their factories to a more stable country and we will just have to live with a more expensive iPad.

        And one reason why “capitalism was developed so late” is rather obvious. As one who is “so educated” you should have realized that, industrial revolution did not come until the late 18th century. Its difficult to build a capitalist society when you have to publish books by hand.

        Third World “survival” is the same as Western greed. Once the Third World will get access to safe drinking water and food, then they will want a better house, more crap in it, etc. etc. Poor people are not nobler than the more affluent. They just have less crap. That is human nature. There is no nobility in poverty. Try to study that, but I doubt you will. Like all who are far up their own asses you wont see the obvious. The Third World goes willingly to work for those evil multinational corporations because of greed. Survival is greed, in its most basic form. One you gain enough to not have to worry about starving and basic housing then you will want more and better things to make your life more comfortable. And you wont be revolting, no, you’ll be working for the same corporations, it will only be for a bigger salary. You will feel less exploited and that will be your vent. After a while a more stable and democratic political system will come and again, no revolution.

        Over centuries idiots like Marx kept coming up with idealistic theories, some even tried to implement them, yet none worked. Because of human nature. I used America and the Western European states as examples for one simple reason. The leading quote I used claims that once a society modernizes, its proletariat will rise. Sorry, but none did. Because once those states became properly modern industriesed states then there was no need for a revolt. Because the working class attained enough to be somewhat satisfied with their lot. There was enough social mobility. Like there is in Asia now. China, India, S. Korea, Thailand, etc. There people are not different than the Europeans. This is what you fail to understand. Most people don’t want to overthrow the ruling class and the wealthy, they want to join them. As long as there is some social mobility, there will be no revolt. At least none based on class. In the West, and America especially, social mobility has gone down, and people are more dissatisfied. Once the economy improves and people will go back to work then that dissatisfaction will diminish.

        So while you run around feeling good about yoursefl and keep insulting me and my education try to first read and understand what I was talking about before posting such claims. Because you look like an idiot making those stupid claims. Do you have any comments about what I actually posted? Or only about what you imagined I think?

  9. Marx and crew completely ignored the most successful revolutions the American Revolution, with its reliance on freedom, private property and balance of power. All the progress, science, wealth for the working and middle class came from that freedom and respect for private property. There is no incentive within communism to create, invent or discover anything. If world wide communism succeeded in 1865 we would be living in huts with none of the benefits of today such as indoor plumbing, electricity, internet etc. But if they studied American success and modeled that, the 20th century would have looked totally different.
    It’s incredible that there are still people that believe there can be a dictatorship of the proletariat. When really it’s nothing more than a no-nothing thug who enriches his inner circle and impoverishes the masses.

    • Thanks for the comment vbasic
      While I detest communism and its prophets, we have to remember that at the time America was not the beacon of freedom and liberty and opportunity we think it was. There was no proper labour movement in America. America was just some backward country of little or no consequence to a European. Also we either had slavery or just fought a war over slavery (depending on when Marx would have been influenced), so we were hardly a beacon of equality. Another issue was that the US, like any other industrialized nation at the time exploited its labour force for all it was worth just as much as Europeans did. The 19th Century was a difficult world unless you were rich, white and a man. Considering all that was happening at the time I quite understand why such good intentioned idiots like Marx existed. Though that does not make his or any other kooks theories any more valid. Communism as an idea is great, but no one, ever, should try to bring those ideas to life as they go against human nature. So yes, you have a point, the world would be a shitty place if we all lived under the dictatorship of the proletariat.

  10. Pseudo-sociology. I am currently revising for my OCR A2 Sociology exam and every point you make/every paragraph in this post looks like it was pulled straight from the pages of their book. Why not try thinking for yourself instead of simply re-typing the words of another like some programmed sentinel?

    And by the way, repeating stuff without making your own analysis wouldn’t even get you a C. Take that, bitch.

    • ha ha, that’s cute. Perhaps you should stay in school and take a few more courses then, maybe one that would help you argue your points. Because simply insulting people without actually rebutting anything they said is not a way to win an argument. Sure we could trade insults to see how many times we can call each other cunt in one sentence but what would be the point? You see some of the comments above? Some completely disagreed with what I’ve written, but they were intelligent enough to actually post their own thoughts and argue them. You on the other hand posted like a silly child. And why did you even bother? Because what? If I don’t gain the approval of some angry idiot from the internet then I will change my mind or will take it down? Do you even disagree with anything I posted or are just angry at ME for some reason? I long lost child I fathered many years ago? Your teachers would be disappointed tsk tsk. Now go back to your books, adults are arguing.

  11. Wow, you crazy as hell. I like how you assumed I was a child as well just because I’m doing my A Levels.

    I wasn’t angry when posting that. In fact, I agree with many of your points. I just found it funny that a lot of it sounded copied straight from a text-book.

    You sound really mad, though. You need some calm down pills, baby.

    • You mean an adult wrote those replies? Wow, now I’m a bit sad. If you were some bored 17 year old then you might have en excuse. Now…
      If your textbooks do indeed sound like the way I write then I truly fear for the British education system. Plus seeing how pretty much all European liberals are closet Reds I doubt any of them would call their hero an idiot. Sorry slick, that was all me. I don’t think I have ever written anything on here while using sources, other than perhaps some quotes. And you did sound a bit angry. Its as if you read my post, did not like something (other than the accusation of me copying I am still trying to figure out what that was) and so you tried to belittle it by posting something silly in order to “put me in my place” somehow. The ending gave it away. Posting “take that bitch” did not make you sound as if you were serene and content with life. It sounded as if you were trying to prove something. But if it made you feel better than I am happy to be of service. After all, not many things in life are more satisfying than insulting people you don’t know over the internet. So indeed, carry on.

  12. You sure know your history, What I do disagree with however is your terrible amount of generalisations; “commies” and “Reds” just show you to be a stereotypical American and make it hard not to instinctually shun your view. Then you come out with “we in America”; hate to break it to you America is a big place and I bet there is more than one American citizen who would see a communist revolution if they had their way.

    Now while I ironically totally agree with the fact that communism is not the way forward, marx’s philosphy was reliant on the principle of human selflessness which undoubtedly is not in abundance just because of this one simple fact does not make him- as you aptly put- “a clueless idiot”. He saw how his social theories were put into practise and even shunned the Russian brand of communism.

    Marx’s idea was flawed not the man himself as was said above his ideas on capitalism were completely right and if anything helped it move forward. Now while he’s not the reason you and me are working 12 hours a day(which admittedly I can’t see any way in how he would be) Marx was no idiot.

    Now since we’re on the subject of insulting Europe; Your reliance on sweeping statements and generalisations with your own population make me think less of American’s in general. You personally sound like someone easily swayed by propaganda and obviously grew up with the anti-communist brand of it.

    Now while Europe did have more communist countries than North America how many countries are there in North America? Now compare that to the amount in Europe. Secondly in Europe or more specifically Britain they teach us How to think, not (like in America) What to think.

    And as a parting quip a word of advice; insulting entire continents is generally a bad idea (Hm… Slightly Hypocritical) and remember that one man or in this case boy does NOT speak for millions he supposedly represents no matter what precedence the only way this would (or should) be accepted is if he was fairly voted into that position by a democratic poll, maybe that will decrease your generalisations slightly

    • Thanks for the reply. But we have to clear a few things up. You call me a typical American. Sorry to break this to you, but I am not. Was born in Europe, and grew up there, but yes, I live in American now and am a US citizen. So the propaganda I was fed was actually the opposite of what you assumed. I hate to break this to you, but when one makes a generalization like “we in America” its just that. Meaning I am speaking for the majority, not ALL. So yes, obviously you would find more than one naive person who would want a Red Utopia from sea to shining sea. It does not negate what I said, because “we in America” have not risen, therefore do not want communism. In general of course. Now I shall be careful to make the distinction that when I speak of a group I am not saying that ALL are.

      And yes, he was, when one propagates a silly idea which has absolutely no chance of working, ever, then one is at best a silly dreamer, at worst a dangerous idiot, because some may actually listen to his nonsense.

      Again, assumptions. I insult Europe as a European. Not as an American. Though I may be partially at fault by the use of “we” when speaking of the US. I am both an American, and a European. So no, those not sweeping generalizations made my a mindless Yank who was told what to think. Funny how you get on my case for making generalization when you made several of your own, all wrong btw. I grew up behind the Iron Curtain. And was fed pro-Commie propaganda. I despise the bastards because I know what they were like, I did not need to read about them in a book.

      But speaking of insults and generalizations. I think you win there. You made many more than I did. And worse too. i just realized that you may have taken exception to my last exchange with that British lad. And you see this as an insult to a whole continent? Because I made a remark that I fear for the British Education system if my writing sounds like his textbooks? I was actually insulting myself more than anyone else with that comment. And a bit hypocritical on your part don’t you think, calling Americans automatons while you’re on your high horse getting defensive about generalizations of Europeans. Is that the typical Brit? All self righteous and self important thinking the cousins across the pond are all ignorant robots?

      Or was it the assertion that most European intellectuals are closet Reds that got you all bothered? Well sorry, they are. Especially the continentals. The French, Spanish, Greek and Italians are the worst. I know many of them, and read even more of their books, they are as red as the sky is blue. Its less evident now that communism failed, but while the Party boys were ruling the Kremlin they would have loved to try Marx’ theories out on Western Europe.

      And where did that numbers thing come from? You getting defensive about more European states being under the Red yoke than American nations? I don’t remember making an argument along those lines. It would be especially futile as most of the European states behind the Iron Curtain had the misfortune of being close to the USSR and had no choice in the matter.

      Frankly I am a bit baffled. That you took offense based on faulty assumptions I can understand, somewhat. But some of your arguments I truly don’t get, and don’t see how they are relevant to anything that I have written.

      Anyway, thanks for reeding and the feedback.

      • Just goes to show where assumptions can get you. I hate generalisations in general.

  13. rlisu needs a psychiatrist

    • Thank you for your input, I have now seen the light and am a convinced Red, bring on the revolution!!!

  14. This is not the complete list; it was taken from the 45 Communist goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963.

    Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .






    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.


    “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” – Barack Hussein Obama – Audacity of Hope

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 (King James Version)






    In ancient Babylon their economy was based on usury.
    Usury is unlawful; expressly prohibited by GOD!



    Our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. (But vetoed a raise for those on Social Security) A member of Congress only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus.  If some one in the military stays  in for 20 years (providing that they are not killed in combat before that) and gets out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $2,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm’s way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.

    The debt added by the previous 43 U.S. Presidents from 1789 through 2002 combined was
       $6.3 trillion

    The debt added by Obama is
        $6.5 trillion

    “I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”—Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, was born in Wellesley MA and co-founded the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

    Usury is unlawful; expressly prohibited by GOD!
    Leviticus 20:2-5

     “I don’t believe people should be able to own guns.” – Barack Hussein Obama

    “The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”— Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
    “Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.”
    Sun Tzu 
    “We can’t expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have communism.”—Nikita Kruschev, former Soviet Premier/dictator.

    The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom and before I leave office I must inform the Citizen of his plight.” PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
    (5  months after he signed Executive Order 11110, and 10 days before he was murdered)




    Jeremiah 48: 10Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.




    • speaking of psychiatrists (check comments above yours).

      Wow dude, what rock was pressing on your head? Seriously? I don’t even know how to respond, only thing I can say is cold war is over dude, really now….

  15. Reblogged this on The Unbearable Lightness Of Being.

  16. “The majority of the population neither supported not participated in the revolutions.”

    I think you meant nor instead of not.

  17. Dumbocracy is no more rational, realistic or stable than Marxism; it’s just the mind-control version of egalitarian bullshit. The USA will never become Communist, but it will become something just as bad, and probably more annoying if you don’t give a shit about dumb-ass liberal values like ‘equality’, etc.

    • LOL, how cute.
      Actually democracy is indeed the most rational system of government. Certainly much more rational than a system based on wishful thinking that resembles religion more than it wishes to admit (communism is really a non-supernatural religion, I don’t want to say natural, because there is nothing natural about it). And it certainly is more stable, seeing as the US has survived for well over 200 years, while your beloved commies have not even lasted one century. Democracy keeps flourishing while the reds are on their last throes.

      The US may be becoming an oligarchy, but that is not the fault of the system. In fact the takeover goes against everything a democracy is. It’s partly due to the ignorance of the electorate, partly due to some shocking SCUTUS decisions which let the oligarchs rule.

      As for your last little dig? What?! The fuck are you on about? Are you an e-psychic? Where did I state that I do not give a shit about liberal values, or even equality (under the law, and equal rules for everyone, because no one really wants real equality, that is nothing but mediocrity, no one wants to be mediocre, we are too egoistic for that, too selfish, too irrational. Even the socially liberal and fairly egalitarian Scandinavia is capitalist, albeit nothing like America. They do take care of their needy and are far more rational than most of the planet). I really don’t know what you are on about. FYI, I am one of those Liberals who wishes that America was more like Sweden or Norway, instead of what it is today. But not with a commie, or a socialist govt. Social democracy is the way of the future. I had the misfortune of living under the commies, or socialists, whatever you want to call those cunts, and it was not a pleasant experience. I value my freedoms. Communism is antithetical to freedom. And the only way the Reds offer equality is for everyone to be equally poor, equally miserable, and equally oppressed.

      • The US is a left-wing republican radical state obsessed with spreading WASP culture by bombs. The decent America died with Albert Jay Nock.
        I am not a Communist. I just hate the Allied Empire more than the defunct Marxoid states.

  18. LOL, US left wing, that’s cute. And obviously you never had anything to do with any commie state, defunct or otherwise, or you would not be writing such nonsense.

  19. “Their god and creator Karl Marx was a clueless idiot who had no idea how a human being and society works.” That sums it up and you probably do not need to say any more than that. I only recently started looking at some of these lunatics like Marx. It is ridiculous that so many people got taken in by these fools.

    If Karl Marx were not so utterly stupid – he could possibly be one of the most evil people that has ever existed. People like Marx are not leaders. Their so called philosophies are autocratic – it has nothing to do with finding out what is best for people – it is all about telling people what they should do. Communism is a pipe-dream – a very dangerous pipe-dream. You said in this article one of the most fundamental aspects of humans… we are not equal! Not only that – we do not want to be equal (even if sometimes we imply that we do).

    • Why is it Marx’s fault that communism turns into Leaderism?
      Also cheesus, you have some dumb generalizations.

  20. At the base of collectivism(e.g. fascism, islam, national socialism, socialism , communism etc) stands the postulat that the individual has zero value, whereas in reality the progress of all civilization is based upon individual freedom. As a tought experiment remove all great achievers from human history. What’s left? Perennial stone age is left (including a 19th century guy who couldn’t even shave his face).

    Even idiots can see that. So, Marx must be called a complete idiot.

  21. Einstein was communist. Most smart people are. Capitalism is accepted for the same reason feudalism and theocracy were accepted: most people are stupid and are easily exploited.

    • Lol, Einstein was basically a democratic socialist, not a commie. The commies would probably kill him, because he would have been a subversive. He promoted democratic values, not communism.

      And again, even a bigger LOL Most smart people are commies? Are you drunk? Most smart Western people would fall into the liberal category, or could be called democratic socialists (Western means European also). And there are plenty of very smart people who are conservative, hell, some brilliant people are even fucking fascists. And I knew plenty dumb commies. Political leanings have nothing to do with intelligence. Also, the vast majority of these aforementioned smart people are capitalists, economically speaking. They want capitalism watched and regulated properly, but they do not want communism.

      And almost all socialists hated the commies. The feeling was mutual. The first thing that the commies always did when they got into power was to eliminate most or the proper socialists.

      You sound like some atheists who try to claim that most atheists are smarter than theists. And that is also a stupid argument. What does it prove, even if it were true? Not a damned thing. I used to be a religious person, I did not get any smarter when I finally admitted to myself that I can not longer believe in any god. Smart people believe in dumb things. Stupid people can reach great conclusions, sometimes even on purpose. Trying to argue from authority is silly, and a fallacy.

      Plus all that shit you wrote simply isn’t true. Capitalism is accepted because it’s a system that fits human nature perfectly. Socialism, because communism is just simply unattainable, requires us to put aside our natural urges and greed in favor economic justice. Most people simply refuse to share their good with those who are needy.

      I am a leftie liberal. But a sane one, and I live in the real world, Plus I knew proper socialists and dedicated commies who were in power. They were fanatics, comparable to the Islamic fascists we are dealing with today. Sorry, I don’t want the Taliban to be in power, I don’t want the Christian Taliban either, and I certainly do not want the Red Taliban.

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