Extracted Content: John Goldstein: So we come again for the the second meeting.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm-hmm.
  John Goldstein: Uh for the aim of this meeting now is to to make presentation about uh the work for each one. And take the the decision
  Ernest Ogren: Okay.
  John Goldstein: about the the design and the functionality of the the remote control.
  Anthony Wheeler: Okay.
  John Goldstein: And we have think I got a new project requirement. So I think uh teletext becomes outdated. So
  Anthony Wheeler: Okay.
  John Goldstein: the popularity of the since the popularity of the internet, and I think we don't need lighting adaptive, for the the television. And of course we should have our image in the in the design. So, let's start with the Anthony Wheeler.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah, alright. So
  John Goldstein: Or
  Anthony Wheeler: uh
  John Goldstein: y you can use the whiteboard
  Anthony Wheeler: Well I have
  John Goldstein: if you
  Anthony Wheeler: a
  John Goldstein: want.
  Anthony Wheeler: PowerPoint pr presentation stored
  John Goldstein: Here.
  Anthony Wheeler: in my in my personal folder so I I I think you can reach it from here.
  Caleb Hall: Just go to explorer. Or open.
  John Goldstein: Oh okay.
  Caleb Hall: Participant.
  Anthony Wheeler: Participant two.
  John Goldstein: This one.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: Open uh.
  Anthony Wheeler: Uh open.
  John Goldstein: Do you want to open
  Ernest Ogren: Because it's you mean.
  Anthony Wheeler: Right, so um I will talk about the the w
  Ernest Ogren: F_ five.
  Anthony Wheeler: working design and
  Caleb Hall: Slide show, view slide show,
  John Goldstein: Ah.
  Anthony Wheeler: And um well I I will present my my first idea on how to build the our new remote control for television. So uh can you go one page down, please. So I things do is to define the hardware components neededs to achieve uh what we want to do. So uh mm I'm thin uh I think uh I I'll do a survey about what is uh what is available on the market and what what is the the cheapest possible things we hav we can use. Then uh I will try with the technical team to to build a prototype and to see uh with uh h how this little box would uh look look like. And how an and we can uh start troubleshooting first uh com communication problems or things like that. And when we are ready with this first prototype I I think we can add some software functionalities on a programmable chip like browsing by content or um things like that. Okay so can you go down uh So, wha what I think for now is we don't want to have a remote control w which is wired so uh I think we u we can use a battery for the. Then two programmable chips for both software functionalities and communication. And the communication with the T_V_ set is uh made through uh infrared communication So uh this is the the schema of
  Ernest Ogren: Did you draw it?
  Anthony Wheeler: the
  John Goldstein: Wow.
  Anthony Wheeler: o of the future uh remote controls so uh you can you can see the components, uh battery and uh the two chips goes to the infrared uh connection to
  Ernest Ogren: This.
  Anthony Wheeler: the T_V_ set.
  John Goldstein: This
  Ernest Ogren: What is the other chip for? The one on top.
  Anthony Wheeler: The one on top is for the um well
  Caleb Hall: One is
  Anthony Wheeler: the
  Caleb Hall: a communication.
  Anthony Wheeler: functionali the functionalities and the the th red um sorry the green one is is to well, putting things together, um f transform the data into uh
  Ernest Ogren: For
  Anthony Wheeler: qu
  Ernest Ogren: men.
  Anthony Wheeler: into the format to
  Ernest Ogren: To the
  Anthony Wheeler: to
  Ernest Ogren: in
  Anthony Wheeler: uh to communicate with the T_V_ set.
  Ernest Ogren: Okay.
  Anthony Wheeler: And, that's it. I think we should use a F_P_G_A_ for
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: for the functionalities which is easy to
  Ernest Ogren: What
  Anthony Wheeler: to
  Ernest Ogren: is F_P_G_A_?
  Anthony Wheeler: t It's field programmable uh something
  Caleb Hall: Gateway
  Anthony Wheeler: array.
  Caleb Hall: arrays.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: It's a field programmable gateway arrays.
  Ernest Ogren: So why's it how is it different from the Bluetooth?
  Anthony Wheeler: Well, uh a F_P_G_A_ is just a chip you
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: can uh you can
  Ernest Ogren: Programme it.
  Anthony Wheeler: pr
  Caleb Hall: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: programme it uh wi with wh whatever you want.
  Ernest Ogren: Okay.
  Anthony Wheeler: And uh well the Bluetooth chip is just responsible to uh make
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: the communication uh between
  Ernest Ogren: Uh
  Anthony Wheeler: uh the two devices.
  Ernest Ogren: So this are the they have to work together? Or? they have to work
  Anthony Wheeler: No.
  Ernest Ogren: or two
  Anthony Wheeler: Well, th the F_P_G_A_ will produce the the data to send.
  Ernest Ogren: Okay.
  Caleb Hall: Or it's something like isn't hardware the first one? And the second one is
  Ernest Ogren: Is the
  Caleb Hall: for the software.
  Ernest Ogren: is the software par
  Caleb Hall: Yeah to
  Ernest Ogren: alri
  Caleb Hall: run
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: th
  Ernest Ogren: okay.
  Caleb Hall: to make it run. That's
  Ernest Ogren: Okay,
  Caleb Hall: it.
  Ernest Ogren: okay. So you can control if you want, right?
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: No.
  Anthony Wheeler: Alright and that's it for the working design. So if you have any questions?
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: Okay, and how about the battery power? power to the battery comes through infrared?
  Anthony Wheeler: Uh no no no no, I think uh we have uh to to uh have uh embedded uh b batteries in in the
  Caleb Hall: Into the
  Anthony Wheeler: yeah into the t.
  Caleb Hall: more compact and
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah,
  Caleb Hall: uh
  Anthony Wheeler: yeah.
  Caleb Hall: okay,
  Anthony Wheeler: And uh I I don't think it will need um very uh
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: much power to
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: make it run, so
  Caleb Hall: Yeah, yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: Okay.
  Ernest Ogren: You can put it on the charger when uh you when you don't
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: need to use it.
  Anthony Wheeler: It's a good idea.
  Caleb Hall: Yeah, that's right.
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: Having a charger rather than putting the battery cells
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah,
  Caleb Hall: always.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: yeah.
  Caleb Hall: People don't like it to have to
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: buy the batteries when they run out.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: We
  Ernest Ogren: Uh
  Caleb Hall: just make a small
  Ernest Ogren: mm. Y
  Caleb Hall: charger
  Ernest Ogren: yeah,
  Caleb Hall: and put
  Ernest Ogren: yeah.
  Caleb Hall: it
  Ernest Ogren: Because
  Anthony Wheeler: That's
  Ernest Ogren: you
  Anthony Wheeler: a
  Ernest Ogren: are
  Anthony Wheeler: good
  Ernest Ogren: using
  John Goldstein: You
  Anthony Wheeler: idea.
  John Goldstein: can i yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: because you are using
  John Goldstein: Ma
  Ernest Ogren: Bluetooth, if some people have P_D_A_ they can use their P_D_A_ to control the T_V_ if they want to, right?
  Anthony Wheeler: Also, but
  Caleb Hall: Bu
  Anthony Wheeler: but I
  Ernest Ogren: I dunno.
  John Goldstein: Yeah we can
  Anthony Wheeler: I
  John Goldstein: change
  Anthony Wheeler: I think
  John Goldstein: the
  Anthony Wheeler: uh the the
  John Goldstein: b.
  Anthony Wheeler: goal is to sell our
  Caleb Hall: Our
  Anthony Wheeler: remote
  Caleb Hall: remote,
  John Goldstein: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: we do not
  Anthony Wheeler: control.
  Caleb Hall: want to make it P_D_A_.
  Anthony Wheeler: S okay, so charger for is the.
  John Goldstein: Um.
  Ernest Ogren: So is mine.
  John Goldstein: It's mine.
  Ernest Ogren: Oh.
  John Goldstein: Participant one, no?
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah, this your
  John Goldstein: Mm. Oh we have so let's move to to user interface design.
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah. So you can open uh
  John Goldstein: Participant
  Ernest Ogren: three. Yeah. So So I'm working on the technical functions design. can you show the next slide. So the the purpose is to to find uh the important questions to ask is what effect should the apparatus have. So so I found on a webs on the internet
  John Goldstein: During the weekend.
  Ernest Ogren: yeah. I spent a lot of time searching
  John Goldstein: That's
  Ernest Ogren: and
  John Goldstein: good.
  Ernest Ogren: uh and I found that uh the function of remote control is to send messages to television set.
  John Goldstein: Mm-hmm.
  Caleb Hall: G
  Ernest Ogren: For example switch on, switch off, switch the next channel and so on and so on. So I found two very good prototypes for for this interface from our competitors so can you
  John Goldstein: This are usual functionality.
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ours is a bit uh different. So these are two example. One is from the other one is from,
  John Goldstein: Tasks.
  Ernest Ogren: yeah, uh engineering centr yeah. This is the most competing prototypes I've found. But then uh loo but then I found if you look at you see on the left one there are too many buttons
  John Goldstein: And they are small.
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah. O on the right I tried to play with the problem is that uh if I have hundred channels I have uh I have to choo press the other button to choose the
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: hundred channels and I have to compose the number so it's very lousy.
  Anthony Wheeler: Of
  John Goldstein: Mm-hmm.
  Ernest Ogren: So you
  Anthony Wheeler: course.
  Ernest Ogren: so you move to the next the next one. Yeah, so I talk about the problem. And then I I look at the user manual they are a hundred pages thick, so we don't want that.
  John Goldstein: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: So I propose the easy to use uh prototype. You can navigate on T_V_ screen and we can the user's preference and we need to have the T_V_ connected to internet so we end in order to access the T_V_ programmes by X_M_L_ and we need some to do some preprocessing. From the technical aspect, the processing should be done on the T_V_ set than on the on the remote controller, right? And then we the speech recognition as uh Harry says we may just put in we may K_I_V_.
  John Goldstein: What do you mean by the pa pa processing will be done on the T_V_
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah, all the processing
  John Goldstein: than the
  Ernest Ogren: is done the T_V_ is a compu has some processing power the
  Anthony Wheeler: So we
  John Goldstein: So
  Anthony Wheeler: have
  John Goldstein: we
  Anthony Wheeler: to
  John Goldstein: should
  Anthony Wheeler: t
  John Goldstein: have specific T_V_?
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  John Goldstein: Or?
  Anthony Wheeler: We have to
  John Goldstein: We
  Anthony Wheeler: sell
  John Goldstein: can
  Anthony Wheeler: a
  John Goldstein: use this.
  Anthony Wheeler: T_V_ with the remote
  John Goldstein: Yeah,
  Anthony Wheeler: control too.
  John Goldstein: we don't
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah because are you just wondering what controller
  John Goldstein: Yeah, I think
  Ernest Ogren: okay.
  Caleb Hall: Yeah,
  John Goldstein: so.
  Caleb Hall: not
  John Goldstein: J
  Anthony Wheeler: I think
  John Goldstein: j
  Caleb Hall: the T_V_s.
  John Goldstein: just the
  Anthony Wheeler: there
  John Goldstein: remote
  Anthony Wheeler: there is
  John Goldstein: control.
  Anthony Wheeler: there is al there there is a a technology like show view
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: who is already available on most of the T_V_ set on recorders or thing like that and we can try t to get this information
  Ernest Ogren: Okay.
  Anthony Wheeler: on to the remote control to
  Caleb Hall: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: to do
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: the processing on the remote control
  Caleb Hall: Yeah,
  Anthony Wheeler: because
  Caleb Hall: that's right.
  Ernest Ogren: Okay. So i the
  John Goldstein: Mm.
  Ernest Ogren: processing on on the remote controller
  John Goldstein: Yeah,
  Ernest Ogren: so it can
  John Goldstein: we.
  Ernest Ogren: u be used in any T_V_, any conventional T_V_ sets?
  John Goldstein: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm. Okay.
  John Goldstein: Speech recognition.
  Ernest Ogren: N yeah, that's all. The next one? So I come up with a simple design, just keep the v navigation buttons.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yes, that's a good idea, I think.
  John Goldstein: Keep the
  Anthony Wheeler: We
  John Goldstein: navigation
  Anthony Wheeler: d we don't we we
  John Goldstein: but
  Anthony Wheeler: don't need really much buttons to i if we have a screen to navigate on
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: on the T_V_ so uh
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: Well, f four five buttons, it's
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: sufficient.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: It's easy to build,
  Caleb Hall: Yeah,
  Anthony Wheeler: it
  Caleb Hall: that's
  Anthony Wheeler: does
  Caleb Hall: right.
  Anthony Wheeler: not consume much power.
  Ernest Ogren: Okay, that's
  Caleb Hall: Oh,
  Ernest Ogren: all.
  Caleb Hall: but you have a catch there, um assume that um if you want to go to if you are watching channel two and if you want to go to channel ninety nine, then.
  Anthony Wheeler: Well, then y you you go to the main menu and uh you have uh go to channel and
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: then
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: uh you
  Ernest Ogren: No,
  Anthony Wheeler: can
  Ernest Ogren: because you choose by channel, so
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: Uh-huh huh
  Ernest Ogren: you choose
  Anthony Wheeler: Maybe
  Caleb Hall: huh huh.
  Ernest Ogren: by T_V_
  Anthony Wheeler: you.
  Ernest Ogren: program so you don't have hundred channels to choose from.
  Caleb Hall: Mm-hmm hmm
  Ernest Ogren: If you
  Caleb Hall: hmm.
  Ernest Ogren: go by channel, you don't have to do that.
  Anthony Wheeler: but uh
  Caleb Hall: But
  Anthony Wheeler: I I think i
  John Goldstein: So you are
  Anthony Wheeler: i if you if you want to to make uh
  Ernest Ogren: Ah.
  Anthony Wheeler: well a a big jump
  Ernest Ogren: Ah,
  Caleb Hall: Yeah
  Ernest Ogren: a big
  Caleb Hall: then
  Ernest Ogren: jump.
  Anthony Wheeler: but
  Caleb Hall: yeah that's right.
  Anthony Wheeler: uh well you you have to to have a a a device when you could you could
  Ernest Ogren: A mouse or
  Anthony Wheeler: Well, not a mouse but uh something that that says more clearly that uh right, left, up, down,
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: Mm hmm
  Anthony Wheeler: well,
  Caleb Hall: hmm. Okay.
  John Goldstein: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: the to have the ability to to to write something to the navigator, maybe directly, or
  Caleb Hall: Okay.
  Anthony Wheeler: So,
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: we can think of buttons like in the telephone to send messages or things like that.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm-hmm.
  Anthony Wheeler: But
  John Goldstein: How
  Anthony Wheeler: we'll
  John Goldstein: the
  Anthony Wheeler: see.
  John Goldstein: this remote?
  Ernest Ogren: Uh it's gonna be small.
  John Goldstein: Yeah, of course
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah. So it'll beep
  John Goldstein: small.
  Caleb Hall: too small that it goes
  Ernest Ogren: if
  Caleb Hall: under
  Ernest Ogren: you
  Caleb Hall: the sofa
  Ernest Ogren: wanna
  Caleb Hall: and we can't find
  Ernest Ogren: find it you just
  Caleb Hall: it.
  Ernest Ogren: uh shout y h just it just has to re respond to you when you look for the device.
  Caleb Hall: Yeah, that's.
  Ernest Ogren: I dunno how
  Caleb Hall: just give it a name
  Ernest Ogren: bu
  Caleb Hall: and we call him.
  Ernest Ogren: And responds to you,
  Caleb Hall: Yeah,
  Ernest Ogren: and
  Caleb Hall: that's right. Yeah, that's right.
  Anthony Wheeler: Okay, so uh next presentation
  John Goldstein: Participant four.
  John Goldstein: So Harry.
  Caleb Hall: Okay, after having the inputs from industrial design and user
  Anthony Wheeler: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: interface, I think most of the points which I want to are already covered here. And to find the most interesting features what the users would be interested, then what we have done is we have put a feedback forms in all the magazines, and the users send the feedbacks, and based on that These are the findings which we got and yeah adding of a speech interface is always good for a T_V_ remote but the technology We already know that as
  Anthony Wheeler: Well
  Caleb Hall: discussed
  Anthony Wheeler: I I
  Caleb Hall: earlier
  Anthony Wheeler: think it will be a, yes, a bit complicated to um make a speech recognisers runs on the small uh ts
  Caleb Hall: An it
  Ernest Ogren: I-
  Caleb Hall: does how
  Ernest Ogren: mm.
  Caleb Hall: feasible it is.
  Ernest Ogren: But I think if you to recognise numbers it's a well-studied problem. I if you just recognise uh numbers is a limited you have limited
  Caleb Hall: Oh
  Ernest Ogren: vocabulary
  Caleb Hall: we can put an limited vocabulary as in the mobile phones.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: We just have the
  Ernest Ogren: Mm. Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: so it's a good idea.
  Caleb Hall: it's not going to take much space also. It's going to be very slim.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: And
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: next one was the size of the remote control. It has to be of course a very slim and small one. And of course most of the people are interested in if it's less expensive,
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  John Goldstein: Mm-hmm.
  Caleb Hall: so this is an important criteria here
  Ernest Ogren: But
  Caleb Hall: is
  John Goldstein: But do you think what they sug suggested s possibility.
  Caleb Hall: I mean
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: we have to look for a trade-off. The
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: features and the cost.
  Ernest Ogren: I
  John Goldstein: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: no I I think that uh i if we go for quality people may tolerate for high quality and of course comes with uh reasonable cost. Maybe not less, but they may be willing to pay
  Caleb Hall: Little bit more
  Ernest Ogren: little
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: if
  John Goldstein: It
  Ernest Ogren: bit
  Caleb Hall: it's
  Ernest Ogren: more for
  Caleb Hall: with extra
  Ernest Ogren: comfort,
  Caleb Hall: features.
  John Goldstein: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: yeah, extra features.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah, s
  Caleb Hall: Okay.
  Anthony Wheeler: s speech is a important extra feature I
  Caleb Hall: Yeah,
  Anthony Wheeler: think
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: yeah. That's right.
  John Goldstein: But is
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  John Goldstein: it useful or not u
  Anthony Wheeler: Well,
  John Goldstein: I don't
  Anthony Wheeler: uh
  John Goldstein: know. There is in
  Caleb Hall: I mean, for
  John Goldstein: the
  Caleb Hall: a lazy guys they could say nine and the nine channel comes. Or they say movie name or I don't go for movie names but only for the numbers on the channel, or volume up, volume
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: down, brightness, contrast.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  John Goldstein: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: So, I think this should be a good idea, to put this features. And the fourth one was the teletext in various languages.
  Anthony Wheeler: we we just have to find a mean how to
  Caleb Hall: Mm,
  Anthony Wheeler: to
  Caleb Hall: I
  Anthony Wheeler: add
  Caleb Hall: think
  Anthony Wheeler: a m a a a microphone or uh well yes a microphone into the the remote control, so I well
  John Goldstein: I think
  Anthony Wheeler: it
  John Goldstein: i
  Anthony Wheeler: will be alright.
  Ernest Ogren: What is the teletext?
  John Goldstein: If it's necessary can you can
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  John Goldstein: do that. We can integrate small microphone in the
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  John Goldstein: remote so it's not really a problem.
  Anthony Wheeler: Okay.
  John Goldstein: What about lighting adaptive options?
  Caleb Hall: Yeah as discussed
  John Goldstein: According
  Caleb Hall: in the earlier
  John Goldstein: to the
  Caleb Hall: meeting,
  John Goldstein: re to the new
  Caleb Hall: but
  John Goldstein: requirements I think we
  Caleb Hall: I
  John Goldstein: don't
  Caleb Hall: think
  John Goldstein: need
  Caleb Hall: uh
  John Goldstein: that.
  Caleb Hall: not much people are really
  John Goldstein: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: interested in this point if it's not really
  Ernest Ogren: It
  Caleb Hall: required.
  Ernest Ogren: is interesting but we are only concerned with the remote controller.
  John Goldstein: Mm.
  Ernest Ogren: So you need s special T_V_ sets to do that? Or it's it's done via this remote controller? It's
  Caleb Hall: I
  Ernest Ogren: very
  Caleb Hall: mean
  Ernest Ogren: complex.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah, I think it's a bit complex too
  Caleb Hall: I mean yeah, it's for the um industrial design and users interface designers to decide
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: if it's going to be working or not.
  Anthony Wheeler: For our next product, our
  Caleb Hall: I
  Anthony Wheeler: new
  Caleb Hall: think
  Anthony Wheeler: T_V_ set with
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah,
  Anthony Wheeler: uh
  Ernest Ogren: then we can conclude
  Anthony Wheeler: automatical
  Ernest Ogren: that.
  Anthony Wheeler: uh sound
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: adjustment
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah,
  Anthony Wheeler: light
  Ernest Ogren: but it's quite possible but maybe not in this project.
  John Goldstein: So we have I think we have s still we have couple of minutes. Mm-mm.
  John Goldstein: So any things to to discuss?
  Caleb Hall: I
  John Goldstein: Or
  Caleb Hall: think
  John Goldstein: any
  Caleb Hall: as I
  John Goldstein: suggestions?
  Caleb Hall: discussed th that four points would be good for um marketing. The speech interface and uh less uh
  John Goldstein: Expensive.
  Caleb Hall: reasonable
  John Goldstein: Price.
  Caleb Hall: uh cost.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: And the lighting adaptation and the teletext.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: And regarding the teletext uh these are the subtitl these are the text information which you got on the televisions.
  Ernest Ogren: Okay.
  Caleb Hall: If you are watching an foreign movie,
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah.
  Caleb Hall: you get subtitles sometimes.
  Ernest Ogren: Okay.
  Caleb Hall: And uh if
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Caleb Hall: you are a French guy watching an English movie you would like to have it in French. And if I am a German then I would like to have the my options in German. So, the remote it should have some
  Anthony Wheeler: Function.
  Caleb Hall: it should give Caleb Hall some flexibility of choosing the ch languages. That should be a good uh point.
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah, but well what about the the new project's requirement? I I I think we should
  John Goldstein: I think we
  Anthony Wheeler: give
  John Goldstein: we
  Anthony Wheeler: up
  John Goldstein: can
  Anthony Wheeler: with teletext,
  John Goldstein: we
  Anthony Wheeler: no?
  John Goldstein: is
  Anthony Wheeler: Yes.
  John Goldstein: the.
  Anthony Wheeler: Well, so maybe we we can j we can already think uh about a way to to access the internet via the television.
  Ernest Ogren: Mm.
  Anthony Wheeler: Because if
  Ernest Ogren: Using the T_V_ to access the internet? Or what? I didn't quite understand
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah, but
  John Goldstein: Yeah.
  Anthony Wheeler: uh we can think that in a few years there will be T_V_ set that can access the internet.
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah, okay.
  Anthony Wheeler: So
  Caleb Hall: We already
  Anthony Wheeler: it's
  Caleb Hall: have
  Anthony Wheeler: a good
  Caleb Hall: some.
  Anthony Wheeler: idea if i i if we i if if we uh think about how to to to build up our remote uh control w with this functionality in a w which will c which will come in a few years. So if we already have it in our
  John Goldstein: So you have to
  Anthony Wheeler: remote
  John Goldstein: anticipate
  Anthony Wheeler: control
  John Goldstein: the the future?
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah. The future
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: demand, market demand.
  Caleb Hall: Yeah,
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah, to desi
  Caleb Hall: that's right.
  Anthony Wheeler: well, not not to implement it, but to well, to find a way to to add
  Ernest Ogren: The
  Anthony Wheeler: to
  Ernest Ogren: functionality
  Anthony Wheeler: add this functionality in a
  Ernest Ogren: in the future.
  John Goldstein: In future.
  Anthony Wheeler: yeah,
  Ernest Ogren: Alright.
  Anthony Wheeler: in an in an easy manner, if is possible.
  Ernest Ogren: Yeah. Because all the T_V_ sets will be digital, right. All the programmes, everything will be in digital than analog. Th the system will change and
  Anthony Wheeler: Yeah, yeah.
  Ernest Ogren: we have to anticipate for those change.
  Caleb Hall: Yeah,
  Anthony Wheeler: Okay.
  John Goldstein: Okay.
  Anthony Wheeler: So
  John Goldstein: So let's go for the the lunch break, and
  Anthony Wheeler: Okay,
  John Goldstein: we will
  Anthony Wheeler: thank
  John Goldstein: meet
  Anthony Wheeler: you.
  Caleb Hall: Okay,
  Ernest Ogren: Okay.
  Caleb Hall: thank you.
  John Goldstein: after.
  Ernest Ogren: Thank you.
Updated Content: John Goldstein presented the goals of the meeting and new product requirements. Anthony Wheeler presented the internal components of a remote control and showed a diagram of how they operate together. He suggested that field programmable gateway arrays be used for the chip controlling software functionalities, and it was suggested that the remote be used with a recharging stand. Ernest Ogren gave a presentation on the technical functions of the remote, and displayed the interfaces of two existing products for comparison. He showed that the competitors' remotes were too complicated. He suggested that the televisions that the remotes are used with connect to the internet to access downloadable programs. He suggested a simple design with few buttons, small size, and a locator function. Caleb Hall presented several characteristics important to users. He discussed using speech recognition and ways to make it feasible for the project, small size, low price point, and incorporating teletext in different languages. The group discussed the new requirement that required them to omit teletext from their design, and discussed the possibility of using the remote to access the internet through the television.