Extracted Content: Brian Newman: Do you need to change anything on it
  Brian Wood: Um
  Brian Newman: Because? otherwise I will already open it.
  Brian Wood: Mm, don't think so.
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Brian Wood: Unless uh things have suddenly change again.
  Brian Newman: Is it much changes?
  Brian Wood: Uh don't know. Maybe uh
  Brian Newman: Uh I didn't
  Brian Wood: you've got new information,
  Brian Newman: No no. I do
  Brian Wood: like
  Brian Newman: hot have
  Brian Wood: uh last time.
  Brian Newman: Only the same information.
  Brian Wood: Okay.
  Brian Newman: Hello, Sebastian.
  Donald Greis: Hello hello Mister P_M_.
  Brian Newman: I believe uh Miss uh Tentel is with us as well, in the control room.
  Donald Greis: Well, that's where the thinking goes on.
  Brian Newman: Oh, it's that Roo again, always late. Bongiorno.
  Robert Salinas: Bongiorno.
  Donald Greis: I think you should punish him. You're the P_M_.
  Brian Newman: Hmm.
  Robert Salinas: Punish.
  Brian Newman: I see some interesting okay.
  Donald Greis: Possibilities,
  Robert Salinas: You wish.
  Donald Greis: yeah?
  Brian Newman: People, welcome back.
  Robert Salinas: Welcome.
  Brian Newman: The third
  Robert Salinas: Uh
  Brian Newman: meeting.
  Brian Wood: Oop.
  Brian Newman: I some points I would like to uh some some issues I would like to point out. Um first of all, um if you make minutes yourself as well, uh like Sebastian does, um could you put them on the shared folder? If you do not make minutes, no problem, but it's easy for Brian Wood to see what
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: you uh wrote down, so I could uh can uh um use that in the in the report. Um the second thing, um I was th uh s thinking to myself, I have this little remote control, and I'm talking to it, but I still need to point to the television, because it works with infrared. That's quite strange.
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: So
  Brian Newman: We'll come to that later, I g I think. Um the agenda for now uh uh are there any pre-discussion questions?
  Robert Salinas: No.
  Donald Greis: Not at all.
  Brian Wood: No.
  Brian Newman: Okay. Um we wi we will have your individual presentations, uh then the decision on the remote control concept, um and uh the closing. Forty minutes in total for this. So um I think we we can immedis immediately start with the individual presentations,
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: um the progress you've made. Um I think it might be smart to look at uh Ruud's um information first,
  Brian Wood: 'Kay.
  Brian Newman: because I understood there are some uh significant changes in the market
  Brian Wood: Hmm?
  Brian Newman: situation.
  Robert Salinas: Alright.
  Brian Wood: Oh.
  Donald Greis: Just press the okay button, it
  Brian Wood: Yeah,
  Donald Greis: works.
  Brian Wood: Okay.
  Brian Newman: Um
  Brian Wood: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: yeah.
  Brian Wood: Yeah. My method?
  Donald Greis: How surprising.
  Brian Wood: Well, findings. Uh Ease of use is important, but uh innovation is more important, and a fancy look and feel is uh even more important. watchers have found out that the young target group likes fruit and vegetables in their uh clothes, shoes and furniture, and that they want spongy material. Probably watch too much Sponge Bob. Uh the older group uh still prefers dark colours. Simple shapes uh m material. But we since we are concentrating on uh the
  Brian Newman: Uh
  Brian Wood: younger
  Brian Newman: w
  Brian Wood: group
  Brian Newman: wait a
  Donald Greis: Oh
  Brian Newman: sec
  Donald Greis: wait uh wait up.
  Brian Newman: wait a se uh could you go to the previous slide? Um because I'm taking minutes and it
  Brian Wood: 'Kay.
  Brian Newman: Um were the important themes enclose. Yeah okay. The feel of to be spongy
  Donald Greis: Uh so do you think um when fruit and vegetables are important for clothing and shoes that they are in remote controls also?
  Brian Wood: Well, uh one example given was this, so um I assume they just want something colourful. Not uh
  Donald Greis: Not
  Brian Wood: specifically
  Donald Greis: something dull.
  Brian Wood: uh an apple as a
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Wood: remote control
  Robert Salinas: But they
  Brian Wood: or
  Robert Salinas: like
  Brian Wood: something.
  Robert Salinas: dark colours, you said in
  Brian Wood: No,
  Robert Salinas: the
  Brian Wood: uh
  Robert Salinas: p
  Brian Wood: the younger group likes uh more colourful
  Robert Salinas: Okay.
  Brian Wood: uh objects.
  Robert Salinas: Well then I suggest that the
  Brian Wood: But
  Robert Salinas: corporate colours are grey and yellow. I
  Donald Greis: But
  Robert Salinas: had
  Donald Greis: can you can you go back to that slide? The
  Brian Wood: Which one?
  Donald Greis: uh
  Brian Wood: This?
  Donald Greis: just one slide back, no no no. Yes. Okay, and the feel of the material has to be spongy.
  Brian Wood: Yes.
  Donald Greis: Has it something to do with that uh natural feeling also, do you think?
  Brian Wood: Uh well, it might. But personally I wouldn't like a sponge as a remote control. But Maybe soft material or something. But not
  Brian Newman: Okay, so
  Brian Wood: a real
  Brian Newman: so,
  Brian Wood: sponge.
  Brian Newman: yeah, it might not be t uh it it shouldn't be too hard. It it maybe it rubber or or
  Brian Wood: Yeah, exactly.
  Brian Newman: yeah. Okay.
  Brian Wood: Yeah, and like uh
  Robert Salinas: Or we could
  Brian Wood: the older
  Robert Salinas: make
  Brian Wood: group
  Robert Salinas: oh.
  Brian Wood: likes familiar materials, but that doesn't mean we should use wood, So
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Wood: Well, this this is an example of what they would like. But since we're conten concentrating on uh the younger group, I think we should use soft materials and uh make it colourful or uh like cell phones, exch exchangeable covers.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Brian Wood: So we could provide both for the young and the old what they like.
  Brian Newman: Well, that's interesting.
  Donald Greis: It's quite interesting.
  Brian Newman: You could make a few v very colourful ones,
  Robert Salinas: Yeah, o o
  Brian Newman: and uh a very traditional
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: co
  Robert Salinas: I'm thinking
  Brian Newman: cover.
  Robert Salinas: about uh the Bananarama telephone uh telephone from uh Siemens. The yellow uh rubber
  Brian Newman: Yeah, yeah.
  Robert Salinas: telephone. It's the it's the rubber uh
  Brian Newman: Yeah, it is, it
  Robert Salinas: cover.
  Brian Newman: is i yeah.
  Robert Salinas: And uh colourful. It
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: looks likes a banana. We have the fruit, we have the colours.
  Brian Newman: Do
  Robert Salinas: We have
  Brian Newman: you know
  Robert Salinas: the simple
  Brian Newman: the phone?
  Robert Salinas: design.
  Donald Greis: I don't know the phone, but
  Brian Newman: It's the Siemens
  Donald Greis: I can imagine
  Brian Newman: uh
  Donald Greis: it.
  Brian Newman: C_ twenty five,
  Robert Salinas: Um
  Brian Newman: I believe it's it's
  Robert Salinas: thirty
  Brian Newman: the
  Robert Salinas: five.
  Brian Newman: one the Post-bank uh gave away,
  Donald Greis: Oh, that one,
  Brian Newman: the
  Robert Salinas: And
  Donald Greis: yes.
  Brian Newman: very
  Robert Salinas: the b the light
  Donald Greis: Now
  Robert Salinas: blue
  Donald Greis: I kn uh oh, I know,
  Robert Salinas: and
  Donald Greis: I know.
  Robert Salinas: it's also in yellow.
  Donald Greis: Yes, I I've seen it. I've seen it.
  Brian Newman: You kn you know, Ruud, as well? About
  Brian Wood: I've
  Brian Newman: th
  Brian Wood: seen it, but
  Brian Newman: Okay. Okay. Um uh okay. Do
  Brian Wood: 'Kay.
  Brian Newman: you have uh thit that was
  Brian Wood: Uh that's about it.
  Brian Newman: Okay. Okay, so the the m uh important findings are uh innovation is more important than ease of use for the our target group.
  Brian Wood: Yes.
  Brian Newman: And um colouring is important and and
  Brian Wood: Uh
  Brian Newman: uh
  Brian Wood: soft material.
  Brian Newman: soft materials. Okay.
  Donald Greis: So So ease of use is important, but technology is twice as important. And what was even more important?
  Brian Wood: Uh the fancy look and feel.
  Donald Greis: Okay. So that's the most important thing for
  Brian Wood: Yes.
  Donald Greis: our customers.
  Brian Wood: Apparently.
  Brian Newman: Okay, Roo,
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: could you do your presentation?
  Robert Salinas: Mm-hmm. Well, I don't ha really have much to add, um because most of things we already said in uh the previous uh discussion. Um
  Brian Newman: Okay, well it's good to to sum up uh the things we already thought about.
  Robert Salinas: Uh the previous ideas were voice recognition and uh the round button for uh the p channel programming and uh volume. Well, a few interface I uh I found on the internet are are these. These are both with uh with voice recognition, but they're very advanced and very high-tech and just um, well, a weird um
  Brian Newman: Shape.
  Robert Salinas: shape. So I suggest I couldn't uh I had a small uh mock-up uh sign on the on paper. But it didn't work. My pen didn't load um the information. So I made a really simple f uh a shape on uh in um PowerPoint. But we could make uh a round uh an oval uh um
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm. But it's it's
  Robert Salinas: remote
  Donald Greis: kind
  Robert Salinas: control.
  Donald Greis: of uh
  Robert Salinas: Uh yellow.
  Donald Greis: it's kind of o organic, so that's very good.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Brian Wood: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: And what I'm thinking about, maybe um we should make very light but um uh a grip um I mean this is how you hold a remote control.
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: Um it shouldn't be too uh glatt, too
  Donald Greis: Slippery.
  Brian Newman: slippery, s because
  Robert Salinas: But
  Brian Newman: um
  Robert Salinas: if you
  Donald Greis: You have
  Robert Salinas: have
  Donald Greis: to
  Robert Salinas: something
  Donald Greis: grab it.
  Robert Salinas: like uh the Siemens phone,
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: it's rubber. So
  Brian Newman: Yeah, exactly.
  Robert Salinas: it's easy in your hand Uh
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: indeed.
  Donald Greis: Yes. There are there are also remote controls who have uh a little shape underneath
  Brian Newman: Yeah,
  Donald Greis: where
  Brian Newman: ex
  Donald Greis: you can put
  Brian Newman: for
  Donald Greis: your fingers
  Brian Newman: your fingers,
  Donald Greis: in,
  Brian Newman: yeah.
  Donald Greis: so you can get
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: a really good grip on it. So you you don't have to um attain much pressure to it. It's it's a lot easier.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: So
  Brian Newman: It grips
  Donald Greis: m
  Brian Newman: automatically.
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: Yeah,
  Donald Greis: But
  Brian Newman: okay.
  Donald Greis: I'll I'll go into that deeper in my presentation.
  Brian Newman: Okay, good.
  Robert Salinas: Great.
  Robert Salinas: Oh and um to add on um Ruud's information, in this um interface we can have uh high-tech with the voice recognition and uh, well, the the fancy colours and uh and so on, and still have the ease of use, because we have an easy interface. And all the other remote controls are high-tech in buttons
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: and uh
  Brian Newman: Way
  Robert Salinas: and so
  Brian Newman: too
  Robert Salinas: on.
  Brian Newman: much I think for
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: our goal, yeah.
  Robert Salinas: So if you have the voice recognition, you can you can programme like thirty uh um
  Brian Newman: Okay,
  Robert Salinas: thirty c
  Donald Greis: Okay,
  Robert Salinas: uh
  Brian Newman: b but I think
  Donald Greis: but
  Robert Salinas: controls
  Donald Greis: I'll
  Brian Newman: we'll
  Donald Greis: I'll
  Robert Salinas: on
  Donald Greis: go
  Robert Salinas: it.
  Donald Greis: into that,
  Brian Newman: yeah.
  Donald Greis: because there are are some possibilities and some impossibilities. Um I had a talk with uh our manufacturing uh division, and uh we had a talk about all the different components um who are in this design. Uh these are the things we've looked at. And of course I used the web to uh find my information. About the casing, we have three different casing possibilities. We have the uncurved or flat case. Uh that's the most common uh remote con control form uh we're used to is just a it ju it's just a box. I'm sorry I I don't have any pictures of uh of this thing. We have uh a curved one. It's uh curved in two dimensions. You have to imagine it's a bit like a wave form. So it's uh
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: a little more advanced in its in its shape. Uh and we have an even more advanced uh shape, which is curved in three dimension. I c I think you can compare it a little bit with the uh big grey image uh you had in your presentation.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: The the big remote control,
  Robert Salinas: Right.
  Donald Greis: something like that. But it's quite uh advanced and it's it's quite daring to to use I think. Um for these casings we have uh different types of finishing. We can use plastic, which is uh very slippery and maybe not so nice, but you can give it any colour, uh which is the same for rubber, but it's not slippery. We can use wood and titanium. Well, um we cannot use the titanium on the double curve cases. And these latex cases, there's there's just the plastic ones uh won't allow the use of solar cells as an energy source source. Which brings Brian Wood to the different energy sources. Um well, we even seem to have uh hand dyn dynamos for uh powering our uh remote controls. You really have to imagine like winding
  Robert Salinas: Great.
  Donald Greis: up your uh
  Brian Newman: Well,
  Donald Greis: I
  Brian Newman: it
  Donald Greis: d
  Brian Newman: would be very new to the market, but
  Donald Greis: It would be very new, but it's a kind of a retro uh style, I
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: think. Uh Well, this is quite interesting. Uh there's there's also a kinetic energy supply. So um when you're watching T_V_ uh or
  Robert Salinas: Like the
  Donald Greis: when
  Robert Salinas: watch.
  Donald Greis: you're you you have to um make some kind of energy kinetic energy by shaking the remote or throwing it against the wall, whatever you wish. It have it it has to move, that's the the sense of it. And you can store the energy in the in the thing.
  Brian Newman: I think um, if if I can hook on to that, um the kinetic thing
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Brian Newman: is very funny.
  Donald Greis: It's very funny indeed.
  Brian Newman: I mean solar is of course it's nice, but it's,
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Brian Newman: well, your uh your calculator has a solar panel.
  Donald Greis: Indeed.
  Brian Newman: Um hand
  Robert Salinas: But
  Brian Newman: dynamo
  Robert Salinas: if you're watching a movie, how many times uh you take the the remote control and and
  Brian Newman: Well, maybe
  Robert Salinas: if
  Brian Newman: m
  Robert Salinas: uh if you have a watch, you have the kinetic uh idea in a watch also.
  Brian Newman: Yeah,
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Brian Newman: I know.
  Robert Salinas: You you walk
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Robert Salinas: and
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: uh but
  Donald Greis: But
  Robert Salinas: uh you you're
  Donald Greis: you
  Robert Salinas: sitting
  Donald Greis: know
  Robert Salinas: on a couch.
  Donald Greis: you know from your own watch your watch uses uh a minimal con it consumes a minimal amount of energy. the the shaking of your body, which is almost uh every activity makes your uh body shake, uh it charges it. But uh the problem here is that it it supplies a a very little amount of kinetic energy. So I think uh you have a problem when you're watching a movie and uh you haven't moved the remote uh i remote control in a
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: in an amount of time,
  Brian Newman: And
  Donald Greis: and you
  Brian Newman: wha
  Donald Greis: want t to switch uh the channel or something, well, m it might not work. So that's something you have to keep in mind.
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: So, but maybe maybe there's a possibility com to combine it with m uh traditional batteries, on the batteries and
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: um when there's enough kinet kinetic energy, use the kinetic energy, and otherwise use the batteries.
  Brian Newman: Okay, because I guess the voice recognition feature u consumes quite a f uh a lot of power.
  Donald Greis: Uh yes, it does.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: I'll come to that later.
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: And we of course have the traditional uh solar power, which is just uh uh uh uh uh a piece of material on the remote control which transfers light energy into electricity. The user interface controls, um of course we have the push-buttons and uh we also have scroll-wheels. And these scroll-wheels can also be integrated with buttons. So it's just like a mouse. You can scroll 'em, you can also push it. Um uh in the indicators we have the L_C_D_ displays, which means uh you can watch uh in a display w
  Robert Salinas: Mm-hmm.
  Donald Greis: which channel you have chosen or something like that of the li amount of volume which is uh currently uh and we also have double scroll-buttons, which are just two of these things. So we don't really have the the kind of button we had in mind in our uh uh in our last meeting, the the thing with the the round
  Robert Salinas: Mm-hmm.
  Donald Greis: with the four
  Robert Salinas: Oh, we can just make four push-buttons in a form of a round.
  Donald Greis: Yes. That is possible too. Yes.
  Robert Salinas: But I th I don't think uh the scroll-wheels I had some I had some information about it too.
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Salinas: I don't think there's any possibility for us to use scroll-wheels.
  Brian Newman: Well
  Robert Salinas: I d I can't see uh any uh scenario where you would use a scroll-wheel with a
  Donald Greis: Well,
  Robert Salinas: button on it.
  Donald Greis: mayb uh well, m Brian Wood neither. Maybe when you
  Brian Newman: This
  Donald Greis: integrate
  Brian Newman: will be the
  Donald Greis: some
  Brian Newman: remote,
  Donald Greis: functions.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: right? Um with uh maybe a channel selector. What about integrating a scroll-bar on this side?
  Robert Salinas: Yeah, uh that's
  Donald Greis: Uh
  Robert Salinas: a possibility,
  Donald Greis: it's
  Robert Salinas: but
  Brian Newman: Because
  Donald Greis: do it's
  Brian Newman: this
  Donald Greis: done
  Brian Newman: is
  Donald Greis: before.
  Brian Newman: how you keep it
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Robert Salinas: But Flores,
  Donald Greis: It's quite quite good, yes.
  Robert Salinas: think about a scenario where y where you would use the scroll-button
  Brian Newman: Volume?
  Robert Salinas: for
  Donald Greis: Well, it's it well, i what he means is there's an
  Robert Salinas: A volume,
  Donald Greis: button
  Robert Salinas: okay.
  Donald Greis: integrated in the scroll-wheel. There's no scenario where you use uh the button in the scroll-wheel. You just use the wheel.
  Brian Newman: Well, what about mute?
  Donald Greis: About mute. Well,
  Brian Newman: Thi
  Donald Greis: yes.
  Brian Newman: i i m I guess uh th this
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: is my volume button.
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: And I can either on this side or this
  Donald Greis: Well,
  Brian Newman: side
  Donald Greis: okay.
  Brian Newman: um
  Donald Greis: Well, that that that's one possibility, okay.
  Brian Newman: And click it to muten the device.
  Donald Greis: Well, okay.
  Brian Newman: And and
  Donald Greis: It's quite
  Brian Newman: it
  Donald Greis: goods.
  Brian Newman: makes it different from the traditional uh devices on this market. So I'm looking for a way to uh make it a little different than the traditional
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Brian Newman: ones.
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: So maybe um I guess that that's something you two uh
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: need to think about. Uh Ruud, wha what do you thing about uh a scroll-bar?
  Brian Wood: Um
  Brian Newman: Uh scroll-wheel.
  Robert Salinas: Wheel.
  Brian Wood: Uh well, it's obvious obviously new. So it might attract uh the young customers.
  Donald Greis: Hmm.
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: But it's done before, uh there are many other devices um like uh telephones and our uh radio, pocket radios. We use this.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: And Well, it's it's been done years ago and I don't see it anywhere now. So
  Brian Newman: Well,
  Donald Greis: maybe
  Brian Newman: all
  Donald Greis: it's
  Brian Newman: the Sony
  Donald Greis: not no.
  Brian Newman: telephones use it, for example, for volume. but on their side th the the volume button is on the side, because
  Donald Greis: Hmm.
  Brian Newman: you gri grab it like this.
  Donald Greis: Yes, but it uses two separate buttons.
  Brian Newman: Yeah. I know,
  Donald Greis: It
  Brian Newman: it's
  Donald Greis: doesn't
  Brian Newman: not really
  Donald Greis: use
  Brian Newman: a
  Donald Greis: a.
  Brian Newman: scroll-wheel. No. Yeah.
  Donald Greis: Well. Uh something for uh
  Brian Newman: For
  Donald Greis: Roo
  Brian Newman: you too,
  Donald Greis: here.
  Brian Newman: yeah.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah, I believe uh if you have uh what we've earlier said, um the grip uh places in in the remote control. You have your hand on one place on the remote control, so you have to place all the buttons in a range
  Donald Greis: Wi within
  Robert Salinas: of your
  Donald Greis: reach.
  Robert Salinas: thumb.
  Donald Greis: Yes, you have to.
  Robert Salinas: So in that
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Robert Salinas: case uh the volume button on the side uh
  Donald Greis: yes.
  Robert Salinas: of the remote control would be perfect.
  Donald Greis: Yeah, yeah.
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: Sebastian. Um
  Donald Greis: Okay, um we have to know, if you want to use uh these rubber double-curved c uh case, um you must use these push uh push-buttons. There's no way you can integrate L_C_D_ displays. There's no way you can integrate scroll-wheels, because it's all curved. There's
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: there are no uh flat areas where you can incorporate these things. So that's a limitation. About um the components, uh just the hardware. We basically have uh three types of chips we can use and uh these chips incorporate all the Logica and um um uh hardware that is needed to send uh to send a signal. Uh we have a simple, regular and advanced chip. And there is something like a sample sensor and sample speaker, which is a little cryptic uh to Brian Wood. But I think that's the the voice recognition thing that we are uh thinking
  Robert Salinas: Yeah
  Donald Greis: about.
  Robert Salinas: yeah, you can um I have some information about it. Uh in the voice recognition you say a word you can
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Salinas: programme words like
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Robert Salinas: uh v uh volume up.
  Donald Greis: Okay. So
  Robert Salinas: Of mute, let's
  Donald Greis: so
  Robert Salinas: say mute.
  Donald Greis: okay.
  Robert Salinas: Um you programme it, you m mute and you g you give um an uh an action to it
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Salinas: that that's really the mute function
  Donald Greis: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: and uh when you speak in the the remote control, it repeats uh your saying. So that's the sample sensor.
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Robert Salinas: So if you say mute, it says mute again,
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Salinas: and then it's um well, I believe
  Brian Newman: It
  Robert Salinas: it's
  Brian Newman: performs
  Robert Salinas: uh
  Brian Newman: the action.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah, and
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: then uh he he
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Robert Salinas: repeats its action what which he believes it is. So you
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: say mute, he repeats mute and you makes a computer sound mute, and then goes to the mute
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Robert Salinas: function.
  Donald Greis: Okay, so that's basically the the voice recognition item we were searching for. Okay. This sample sensor uh requires an regular chip, I thought. Um no op I'm not very sure. No, it's not in here. If we want to use the L_C_D_ display, we really need the advanced version, which is a bit l little bit more costly. If we want to use the scroll-wheels we need the regular version. And if we don't want to use uh any of these uh more advanced functions we can keep with the simple uh chip, which is a bit cheaper.
  Brian Newman: Okay. Uh well
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: uh d did we already decide on the display? To
  Donald Greis: Um no, but I think that's something for uh Roo here
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: to
  Robert Salinas: Well,
  Donald Greis: think about.
  Robert Salinas: I don't have um I haven't looked for uh for information about it, but I don't think information uh y I don't think you need it on a display.
  Brian Newman: No.
  Robert Salinas: Especially
  Donald Greis: I I don't
  Robert Salinas: when
  Donald Greis: think
  Robert Salinas: when
  Donald Greis: either.
  Robert Salinas: we have to look at a cost, I don't think uh
  Donald Greis: No. I
  Robert Salinas: 'cause
  Donald Greis: don't think
  Robert Salinas: uh
  Donald Greis: you need it.
  Robert Salinas: uh all any T_V_ can uh can uh view
  Brian Newman: On
  Robert Salinas: a
  Brian Newman: screen
  Robert Salinas: digit
  Brian Newman: display.
  Robert Salinas: on uh on screen, yeah.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: Okay th
  Donald Greis: Okay, well my conclusion, um unfortunately the market has decided the a little uh other than I thought. I thought um the market would like uh a sort m sort of titanium casing, but they seem to like natural uh stuff. So maybe we should think about uh wood finish. Um I've chosen the more battery with solar cell uh solution for the energy. It's more reliable, it's cheaper.
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: So I
  Brian Newman: Good.
  Donald Greis: don't think we should use the dynamo
  Brian Newman: Kineti
  Donald Greis: thing.
  Brian Newman: okay.
  Donald Greis: The
  Brian Wood: Hmm.
  Donald Greis: kinetic thing it it's it's a possibility. It's it's more advanced, but I'm I think you should combine it with batteries.
  Brian Newman: Okay, it's
  Donald Greis: Otherwise
  Brian Newman: maybe
  Donald Greis: it will
  Brian Newman: a bit
  Donald Greis: not
  Brian Newman: too too
  Donald Greis: too
  Brian Newman: flashy,
  Donald Greis: advanced,
  Brian Newman: too
  Donald Greis: uh well.
  Brian Newman: yeah.
  Donald Greis: It's in in in some way it can give us an advance, because you will save on your batteries. But
  Brian Newman: Yeah, but that that's the same with the solar cell.
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: That's no
  Donald Greis: And
  Brian Newman: different.
  Donald Greis: I think it's more robust. It's
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: more uh
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Robert Salinas: But what
  Donald Greis: Uh
  Robert Salinas: about
  Donald Greis: it's more
  Robert Salinas: um
  Donald Greis: functional.
  Robert Salinas: the markets uh wants colourfuls uh designs? So if you use titanium
  Brian Newman: No no, but the uh um
  Donald Greis: The titanium
  Brian Newman: that's what Sebastian
  Donald Greis: thing uh
  Brian Newman: said. He said uh
  Donald Greis: we
  Brian Newman: this
  Donald Greis: have to
  Brian Newman: is
  Donald Greis: skip
  Brian Newman: what
  Donald Greis: it.
  Brian Newman: uh this is my personal preference.
  Robert Salinas: Okay.
  Brian Newman: But but yet, I understood that the market is different.
  Robert Salinas: Oh, sorry. Yeah.
  Brian Newman: So
  Donald Greis: So
  Brian Newman: um
  Donald Greis: I think we should skip the titanium uh stuff,
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: and we should uh use wood or something like that.
  Brian Wood: And
  Robert Salinas: And I
  Brian Wood: yeah,
  Robert Salinas: would
  Brian Newman: No,
  Robert Salinas: think
  Brian Wood: the
  Brian Newman: r rubber with colours.
  Brian Wood: yeah, the older people liked wood.
  Donald Greis: Oh okay, sorry. So it
  Brian Wood: No
  Donald Greis: it
  Brian Wood: the
  Donald Greis: needs to be rubber.
  Brian Newman: Colourful
  Brian Wood: Yeah, the younger
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Wood: people
  Brian Newman: and
  Brian Wood: liked soft material.
  Donald Greis: Okay,
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: spongy materials.
  Brian Wood: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: Okay, um well um these scroll-wheels, I think uh they they can be they can be handy. So
  Robert Salinas: And they can be implemented with a regular chip?
  Donald Greis: Yes, they can. But they really need the regular chip, you cannot use
  Robert Salinas: Okay,
  Donald Greis: the sa
  Robert Salinas: but we
  Donald Greis: simple
  Robert Salinas: also uh we already need the regular chip for the sample uh
  Donald Greis: Well, I'm not
  Robert Salinas: sensor
  Donald Greis: very sure.
  Robert Salinas: speaker
  Donald Greis: Maybe that's an
  Robert Salinas: oh,
  Donald Greis: uh
  Brian Newman: But but
  Donald Greis: a different
  Brian Newman: do
  Robert Salinas: evalu
  Brian Newman: we want the curved uh uh design, or
  Donald Greis: I think so, if you if you stick with the the simple uh straight-forward uh not curve design,
  Brian Newman: I it's
  Donald Greis: i uh
  Brian Newman: too
  Donald Greis: it's too
  Brian Newman: dull.
  Donald Greis: dull.
  Brian Wood: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: I don't think c our customers will like it. And um if you uh take the double-curved, uh then you cannot um you can only use the rubber buttons
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: and you cannot use the scroll-wheels. So
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: I
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Donald Greis: think this is the best of two worlds.
  Brian Newman: Okay, what about um the issue I um addressed at the beginning of the meeting? Um the voice function w with the infrared uh issue.
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: Because it it's of
  Donald Greis: It's
  Brian Newman: cour
  Donald Greis: it's uh I uh I can imagine it's very dull to talk to a device w if you have to point to another device.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: It's very unlogical.
  Robert Salinas: infrared uh remote controls don't have to be pointed at all.
  Donald Greis: Well the
  Brian Newman: Well
  Donald Greis: there has to be some pointing at. But
  Brian Newman: It depends
  Robert Salinas: Well,
  Brian Newman: also
  Robert Salinas: if you
  Brian Newman: on
  Robert Salinas: if
  Brian Newman: your
  Robert Salinas: you
  Brian Newman: on
  Robert Salinas: take your
  Brian Newman: your
  Robert Salinas: hand before it, okay, it won't work, but you can point it just
  Brian Newman: Well, it depends
  Robert Salinas: to the other
  Brian Newman: on
  Robert Salinas: wall.
  Brian Newman: your walls actually. If you
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: have uh have um smooth walls, it it it probably you're probably right. But if you have carpets on the wall,
  Donald Greis: All
  Brian Newman: which
  Donald Greis: lights get
  Brian Newman: our
  Donald Greis: absorbed,
  Brian Newman: natural
  Donald Greis: yeah.
  Brian Newman: loving friends probably do have, then um yeah, th th it might be a bit more of a issue.
  Donald Greis: Yes, because
  Brian Newman: So
  Donald Greis: the walls they they reflect the infrared light.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: So it has an it's easier. Um I suggest we use the the sensor sample. Uh the sample sensor and sample speaker. Um
  Robert Salinas: And the regular
  Donald Greis: with a
  Robert Salinas: chip.
  Donald Greis: with a regular chip. I think uh it gives us the advantage
  Robert Salinas: And and
  Donald Greis: of
  Robert Salinas: the scroll uh scroll-wheels.
  Donald Greis: Yes,
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: yes.
  Brian Newman: I
  Donald Greis: And
  Brian Newman: like the
  Donald Greis: uh
  Brian Newman: scroll
  Donald Greis: skip
  Brian Newman: wheels uh idea.
  Donald Greis: and skip the L_C_D_ part.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: I don't think it it's any uh value added
  Robert Salinas: No.
  Donald Greis: thing. So
  Robert Salinas: Think so too.
  Brian Newman: Well, it looks
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: uh yeah, well um according to Ruud, the the the market likes um
  Donald Greis: Technology.
  Brian Newman: new flashy technology, and
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: I mean L_C_D_
  Donald Greis: It's
  Brian Newman: is
  Donald Greis: not very flashy and
  Brian Newman: well,
  Donald Greis: new.
  Brian Newman: ok I know, but it's m it's less um s
  Brian Wood: Standard?
  Brian Newman: standard than than Well, we are not very w we do not know uh much about the the f the financial part. That's the problem.
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Brian Newman: Because if we do have enough um space in in our finance,
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Brian Newman: I would say do integrate it, because it it adds a little ext extra
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: high-tech feeling to it.
  Robert Salinas: But we already have the scroll-wheels, the sp uh the speaker uh the speak recognition,
  Brian Newman: Mm yeah.
  Robert Salinas: the rubber,
  Donald Greis: Uh I think our customers
  Robert Salinas: the fancy
  Donald Greis: will go
  Robert Salinas: colours.
  Donald Greis: insane.
  Brian Newman: Okay, okay.
  Donald Greis: It's it's too much.
  Brian Newman: Yeah. Okay, I I agree. I think i Ruud, do you have any um anything you would like to um add or or maybe thoughts or
  Brian Wood: Nah, um n no, I don't think so. M
  Brian Newman: No? Sebast uh nee, Roo? Roo, do you
  Robert Salinas: Um
  Brian Newman: have any other
  Robert Salinas: no. Nothing more.
  Brian Newman: Nothing more. Um
  Donald Greis: Okay. Uh the n the next
  Brian Newman: Sebas
  Donald Greis: phase will be um the um not the what is the next phase f Flores?
  Brian Newman: Well, we we need to describe uh decisions now.
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: So um
  Donald Greis: So i
  Brian Newman: on the energy,
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: well, we decided. Chip.
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: The case uh rubber with uh c one
  Donald Greis: Okay,
  Brian Newman: one
  Donald Greis: okay.
  Brian Newman: uh one curve. User interface um
  Robert Salinas: Uh but uh can't scroll-wheels uh work with one uh one-curved case?
  Donald Greis: Yes,
  Robert Salinas: Yeah,
  Donald Greis: they can
  Robert Salinas: okay.
  Donald Greis: work.
  Robert Salinas: Sorry,
  Donald Greis: They
  Robert Salinas: yeah.
  Donald Greis: cannot work with double-curved.
  Robert Salinas: Oh, sorry.
  Donald Greis: That's that's
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: problem. I'll check it for you.
  Brian Newman: Um then the corporate identity should be uh in the product. I guess that is something for Roo and Sebastian. Uh you talked about it before, the colours, grey and yellow.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: Keep it in mind. And um the buttons, well we talked about it now. The next phase, um Sebastian, um
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: is um the design of the look and feel.
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Brian Newman: The user interface design. And for you, the product evaluation. Um I'm sure your personal coach will give you more information on that. Um and uh the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ need to work together on the prototype drawing on the SMARTboard.
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: And I'm going uh to plan my holidays.
  Donald Greis: Okay. So you will
  Robert Salinas: The project
  Donald Greis: be on the Bahamas.
  Robert Salinas: drawing is
  Donald Greis: Uh
  Robert Salinas: for the next
  Brian Newman: Yeah, it's it's uh when we come back in
  Robert Salinas: Yeah,
  Brian Newman: thirty minutes,
  Robert Salinas: right.
  Brian Newman: uh you will have a uh prototype ready.
  Donald Greis: Okay. So can you uh give us a summary of all uh decisions we've made?
  Brian Newman: Yeah? I can. Um maybe one of you could write it down.
  Donald Greis: I'll do.
  Brian Newman: Great. Um Uh you you need to help Brian Wood. Um
  Donald Greis: Okay. W start with the casing.
  Brian Newman: The casing is curved,
  Robert Salinas: Single-curved.
  Donald Greis: Okay,
  Brian Newman: single-curved.
  Donald Greis: single-curved case. Okay. What about the energy source?
  Brian Newman: Traditional batteries uh and solar.
  Robert Salinas: But can there be uh wor can they work together? Or do we have to choose between them? 'Cause if we
  Brian Newman: No,
  Robert Salinas: have to
  Brian Newman: they
  Robert Salinas: choose
  Brian Newman: can be complementary.
  Donald Greis: I
  Brian Newman: Uh
  Robert Salinas: yeah?
  Donald Greis: I
  Brian Newman: al
  Donald Greis: think they can.
  Brian Newman: al
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: I uh
  Robert Salinas: Okay.
  Donald Greis: Well, uh
  Robert Salinas: What
  Brian Newman: Every
  Robert Salinas: if not?
  Brian Newman: device
  Donald Greis: It it should be. There should be really no problem. They
  Robert Salinas: Okay.
  Donald Greis: can be supplementary. That's no problem.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: So
  Brian Newman: Okay, um
  Donald Greis: So
  Brian Newman: th
  Donald Greis: uh uh just uh the energy source is um
  Brian Newman: Battery
  Donald Greis: the batteries and
  Brian Newman: and
  Donald Greis: the
  Brian Newman: solar,
  Donald Greis: solar. Okay.
  Brian Newman: yeah.
  Donald Greis: What about uh the finishing of the case? We have decided we wanted to use the rubber?
  Brian Newman: Yeah,
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: with colourful rubber. Uh if it's possible with uh different um covers, but I'm not sure if our suppliers can uh can help us with uh with such uh uh a wish.
  Donald Greis: Okay, and I think we should use the company colours. Something like black and red. uh black and yellow.
  Brian Newman: Uh grey and yellow
  Robert Salinas: Grey and
  Brian Newman: or
  Robert Salinas: yellow.
  Brian Newman: black and
  Donald Greis: Grey
  Brian Newman: yellow.
  Donald Greis: yellow,
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: okay.
  Robert Salinas: Yellow case and grey buttons, I think.
  Brian Newman: Yeah, although
  Brian Wood: Hmm.
  Brian Newman: I don't think that's very colourful. Except for the yellow of course, but um I could think of a more uh attractive uh c uh set
  Donald Greis: Oh,
  Brian Newman: of colours.
  Donald Greis: I think it's uh it's not very dull. It's quite modern actually. Don't you think?
  Brian Newman: Well, I was
  Robert Salinas: I believe
  Brian Newman: more thinking
  Robert Salinas: the
  Brian Newman: about the fruit colours that the Ruud showed us before.
  Robert Salinas: But you have already um you must have a red uh on and off button. And um
  Brian Newman: Well, it it doesn't
  Robert Salinas: Well
  Brian Newman: have to be red.
  Robert Salinas: well
  Brian Newman: Uh I mean th uh I think these colours are really what our young people are looking for. Um so maybe it shouldn't even be two colours, it should be a full
  Donald Greis: Hmm.
  Brian Newman: colour cover with such an image or or I mean
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: thinking in two colours is is too black and white for our m uh c uh market group, I guess.
  Brian Wood: Or black and yellow.
  Brian Newman: Black and yellow, yeah.
  Donald Greis: Okay, but uh I'm afraid it's not possible to print a picture on uh the device. Because uh I agree it would be nice to have have something like that on the device itself. But
  Robert Salinas: Well, there is. Just a week ago, a keyboard manufacturer
  Donald Greis: Oh, I've
  Robert Salinas: would
  Donald Greis: read.
  Robert Salinas: print,
  Brian Wood: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Robert Salinas: with and uh
  Donald Greis: Yes, but our manufacturing department is not so advanced in its uh techniques. They're actually very slow
  Robert Salinas: No.
  Donald Greis: in its techniques.
  Brian Newman: Okay,
  Donald Greis: So
  Brian Newman: so we have to deal with wh what's possible here.
  Donald Greis: So I'm afraid it's not possible.
  Brian Newman: Yeah. Okay. Um more f more more decisions we made. Um Um
  Robert Salinas: A scroll-wheel.
  Brian Newman: The scroll-heel. Yes, the voice recognition we
  Robert Salinas: Voice
  Brian Newman: already
  Robert Salinas: recognition,
  Brian Newman: decided.
  Robert Salinas: of course.
  Donald Greis: Okay, so scroll-wheel. But there will be some additional buttons, I guess.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: And th the they should be spongy also, because they're they're rubber too.
  Brian Newman: Uh I'm going to leave that up to you two.
  Robert Salinas: What what did you say?
  Donald Greis: Well uh you can use well, when you use the buttons, they'll they'll be made of rubber too. So
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: it has th the spongy uh feel also.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: So I I think that's okay.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah, or you could use plastic buttons. In the rubber.
  Brian Newman: I think rubber is nice. Because it uh i I mean what do you touch the button, and what do they want spongy uh uh devices,
  Robert Salinas: Yeah, b
  Brian Newman: or or i
  Robert Salinas: But then you just have the the fact that um the drawings on the buttons will disappear eventually. What I said in the in the first uh discussion, uh the digit six on the button, it will disappear when it's from rubber.
  Brian Newman: Uh is that uh does our our
  Robert Salinas: It
  Brian Newman: supplier
  Robert Salinas: is not uh
  Brian Newman: say
  Robert Salinas: something
  Brian Newman: so?
  Robert Salinas: uh it's no information I read about it or so, but
  Brian Wood: Uh
  Robert Salinas: it's
  Brian Wood: didn't
  Robert Salinas: just from
  Brian Wood: did we inc uh include the digi digits or uh leave them
  Robert Salinas: No,
  Brian Wood: to the
  Robert Salinas: but
  Brian Wood: speech
  Robert Salinas: but
  Brian Wood: recognition?
  Robert Salinas: uh it
  Brian Wood: 'Cause things like uh volume could be uh placed next to the button.
  Brian Newman: Yeah. You could place a um
  Brian Wood: There
  Brian Newman: uh
  Brian Wood: the
  Brian Newman: this
  Brian Wood: icons.
  Brian Newman: this would be the button. The scroll-wheel, I mean.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah,
  Brian Newman: And
  Robert Salinas: b
  Brian Newman: you could
  Robert Salinas: yeah.
  Brian Newman: place the indica
  Donald Greis: Yes.
  Brian Newman: th th the signals the
  Brian Wood: So you don't
  Donald Greis: That's okay.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah,
  Brian Wood: touch
  Robert Salinas: that's possible,
  Brian Wood: the icons that
  Robert Salinas: but
  Brian Wood: much.
  Robert Salinas: then you have still the images on the rubber of the case. So still then, if you feel uh li uh if you feel your remote control, you just rub on the cover, so you rub on the painting.
  Brian Newman: No no, there's no painting, only uh
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: yellow or But it's into
  Robert Salinas: Yeah, but
  Brian Newman: the
  Robert Salinas: but
  Brian Newman: rubber.
  Robert Salinas: the the plus or the minus.
  Donald Greis: Yes, the
  Robert Salinas: You
  Donald Greis: signs.
  Robert Salinas: have to draw
  Brian Newman: Yeah, but
  Robert Salinas: the
  Brian Newman: this is on the pla yeah,
  Robert Salinas: Yeah,
  Brian Newman: I
  Robert Salinas: it's
  Brian Newman: know.
  Robert Salinas: on the cover.
  Brian Newman: Um
  Robert Salinas: So if you uh
  Brian Newman: I think uh I know which you understand af uh I know
  Robert Salinas: You
  Brian Newman: what
  Robert Salinas: just
  Brian Newman: you mean.
  Robert Salinas: move the problem.
  Brian Newman: What about um making this rubber and making this plastic?
  Donald Greis: Uh I see what you mean. Well, maybe that's possible, because um uh our manufacturing division also offers plastic finishing. So maybe they can combine these two.
  Brian Newman: Yeah. Well actually, we should have it the other way around, I guess. A plastic cover with rubber finishing. I mean, this is this is the finishing. This is um what's on the edge. What you feel.
  Donald Greis: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: But the front, on which the the buttons are doesn't
  Donald Greis: Mm-hmm.
  Brian Newman: have to be rubber. I
  Donald Greis: Well,
  Brian Newman: mean
  Donald Greis: I'm I'm not so sure, I think
  Robert Salinas: Y
  Donald Greis: it
  Robert Salinas: uh can
  Donald Greis: c should
  Robert Salinas: you separate
  Donald Greis: be
  Robert Salinas: these uh these
  Donald Greis: Well, I'm not sure, I have to ask with manufacturing, but I'm I'm not sure that's what you want, because our customers specifically ask for the spongy feel, and that's what you get with rubber. So if you want the spongy feel, you need uh to make these buttons all all of rubber.
  Brian Newman: I know, but do you touch this or do you touch this? I
  Donald Greis: I
  Brian Newman: mean,
  Donald Greis: think
  Brian Newman: I
  Donald Greis: both.
  Brian Newman: I never touch between the buttons.
  Robert Salinas: I do.
  Donald Greis: I do.
  Robert Salinas: Or the s uh the sideways.
  Donald Greis: I think
  Robert Salinas: Or the
  Brian Newman: Yeah, the side,
  Robert Salinas: the
  Brian Newman: exactly,
  Robert Salinas: back. Or
  Brian Newman: the
  Robert Salinas: the
  Brian Newman: sideways.
  Robert Salinas: back.
  Brian Newman: The side, but
  Robert Salinas: I
  Brian Newman: do you
  Robert Salinas: think
  Brian Newman: touch between the the these buttons?
  Robert Salinas: Yes, especially when there are l a few buttons on it, you have uh a lot of space to touch. So you just have it in your hand completely or or
  Brian Newman: Okay.
  Robert Salinas: i
  Brian Newman: Well,
  Robert Salinas: you
  Brian Newman: we
  Robert Salinas: play
  Brian Newman: do
  Robert Salinas: with
  Brian Newman: not
  Robert Salinas: it.
  Brian Newman: have very much time uh left. Um I guess you two have to figure that out.
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Brian Newman: I'm going to leave the decision to you, um because you have to make its prototype, and um yeah y you have the most knowledge about the suppliers, the possibilities and uh
  Robert Salinas: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: so I'm going to leave it the decision with you. Um Sebastian, did you write enough decisions down?
  Donald Greis: Um not quite. Um what about uh the chips? We use the regular chip?
  Robert Salinas: Regular.
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: And
  Robert Salinas: Use with.
  Donald Greis: Well no, I think that's about it. Yes.
  Brian Newman: Okay. With those regular chips we can still uh control advanced functions. The chip is is not really
  Donald Greis: The only difference between the advanced and the regular version is that the advanced uh version of the chip supports L_C_D_.
  Brian Newman: Okay,
  Donald Greis: That's
  Brian Newman: well.
  Donald Greis: all. And we've decided not to use L_C_D_.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Donald Greis: So
  Brian Newman: Okay. Um okay, then I think we are uh quite finished. Um I'll see you guys in thirty minutes and um
  Robert Salinas: For the finishing touch.
  Brian Newman: Yeah? Yeah,
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Brian Newman: um if you write wrote anything down, uh could you put it on the shared folder?
  Donald Greis: Okay.
  Robert Salinas: Uh yeah.
  Brian Newman: Yeah.
  Robert Salinas: But um Sebastian has everything.
  Brian Newman: I know, but well
  Donald Greis: I'll put it online.
  Brian Newman: Great.
  Brian Newman: Right.
Updated Content: For the conceptual design, Brian Wood talked about the public's preference for looks over technological innovation; however, they both seem to be more important than ease of use. The current fashion among younger people favours bright colours and fruit and vegetable themes and spongy materials: pertinent exchangeable fronts can express such trends on the remote, and could also provide themes for other target groups. They could also add some rubber to provide easy grip of the device. Cases can be flat, single- or double-curved. They can be made of plastic, rubber, wood or titanium. Hand or kinetic dynamos, batteries, and solar cells can be used as energy sources. Possible interfaces are push buttons, scroll wheels, and LCDs. A way to make this device different would be to use a scroll-wheel on the side with integrated button for volume control and mute. Speech recognition can be implemented by adding a sample sensor and speaker on the remote. The final decisions also included combined battery with solar cells. The team will design a single-curved device with a scroll wheel and speech recognition, in black and yellow, the company colours.