Extracted Content: Henry Jefferson: Okay. Uh first of all I'll start with the costs, because that's going to influence
  Alvin Jones: Oh no.
  Henry Jefferson: our design.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh,
  Henry Jefferson: If you Don't know if you al already had a look or not?
  Robert Rodgers: Did you
  Alvin Jones: No
  Robert Rodgers: do your
  Alvin Jones: n
  Joseph Robinson: No.
  Robert Rodgers: questionnaire already?
  Alvin Jones: I I already did it. It's not much. It's just
  Henry Jefferson: Because
  Alvin Jones: one
  Robert Rodgers: Uh
  Alvin Jones: question.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh
  Henry Jefferson: we have a problem. If you look closely,
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: you can see.
  Robert Rodgers: It wants
  Henry Jefferson: Um I already took the liberty to make some suggestions.
  Henry Jefferson: At the moment we have fifteen buttons, one L_C_D_ screen, one advanced chip-on-print. We use a uh sensor, that's for the speech. Uh we use kinetic energy. And we wanted uh the buttons in a special colour. Okay. What's the first thing we should drop? The special colour of the buttons?
  Alvin Jones: No that's that's for the trendy uh
  Henry Jefferson: Okay.
  Alvin Jones: feel and look. So
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Robert Rodgers: but everything is.
  Henry Jefferson: Should we switch to a hand dynamo? Uh that's
  Joseph Robinson: No.
  Henry Jefferson: the still the same idea as the kinetic energy because you have to use
  Alvin Jones: Yeah,
  Henry Jefferson: it
  Alvin Jones: b
  Henry Jefferson: and do
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: things.
  Alvin Jones: but
  Joseph Robinson: but young people like that. So
  Henry Jefferson: Batteries?
  Joseph Robinson: just do normal battery.
  Henry Jefferson: Batteries.
  Alvin Jones: I think
  Robert Rodgers: Just
  Alvin Jones: the
  Robert Rodgers: a
  Alvin Jones: battery
  Robert Rodgers: normal
  Alvin Jones: option.
  Robert Rodgers: battery then, yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. It has to be twelve and a half.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Or not?
  Alvin Jones: Oh.
  Robert Rodgers: Oh my goodness.
  Henry Jefferson: So You're going to redesign something.
  Alvin Jones: Oh no.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay, so we're at twenty five.
  Joseph Robinson: Uh, yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Um Do we keep the shape doubly curved or g do we go for single curved?
  Robert Rodgers: Well I guess i we'll have to go for single curve then. I mean we have to drop on everything.
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: we can keep it single curved with uh top view still curved, but from the side it's it's flat, and
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: the screen screen is just Well you just have to hold it like this then. So
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: How
  Henry Jefferson: Um
  Robert Rodgers: about Sorry.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh another option I saw was to drop the buttons one through nine, so you can't directly access a channel, but instead use only the up and down arrows.
  Robert Rodgers: That's what
  Henry Jefferson: That
  Robert Rodgers: I
  Henry Jefferson: would
  Robert Rodgers: was thinking.
  Henry Jefferson: skip
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: nine buttons and four and a half Euros.
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah?
  Joseph Robinson: Let's
  Robert Rodgers: A a
  Joseph Robinson: do it then. Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh then
  Alvin Jones: But
  Henry Jefferson: we have
  Alvin Jones: we
  Henry Jefferson: left
  Alvin Jones: don't have any basic options any more.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh yeah. We do.
  Robert Rodgers: And uh
  Joseph Robinson: F_
  Robert Rodgers: 'cause
  Joseph Robinson: eight.
  Robert Rodgers: then they don't have to n They don't need special colour as well.
  Henry Jefferson: They don't need special colours. Fine. That's more like it.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: You were saying something.
  Robert Rodgers: That was exactly my point. Like
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: let's drop all the buttons, and just make one I mean we're gonna use the L_C_D_ screen anyway.
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Rodgers: So we'll just have to use it for everything.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: And then you can make an overview of channels in the screen, and select a channel,
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, some
  Robert Rodgers: click
  Henry Jefferson: more menu options. Yeah. Okay so maybe we can drop few more buttons. But um Now let's look.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah we c could We only need the the the the the menu arrow arrow button uh thing. Everything you can do with with menu. So
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Alvin Jones: With the
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: display.
  Robert Rodgers: we need one integrated button for everything
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: then.
  Joseph Robinson: The joystick.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah. Kind of. I was
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Robert Rodgers: Because Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, scroll-wheel, push-button uh
  Joseph Robinson: Integrated
  Robert Rodgers: If you if you go
  Joseph Robinson: scroll-wheel
  Robert Rodgers: to
  Joseph Robinson: push-button,
  Robert Rodgers: If
  Joseph Robinson: yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: you go to our uh view, like you if you are in the sound system there,
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: uh and you wanna adjust the treble for instance,
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: this is just uh an example,
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Rodgers: y y you wanna see a bar on which you can adjust it from
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Rodgers: zero to ten for example.
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Rodgers: But you want a sound preview of how it's gonna sound, right? So
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: you wanna click on it, activate it, whe and when you move it, hear the difference of the treble coming out
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: or going into the sound. So you'll you'll need a a kind of a joystick
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah or
  Robert Rodgers: uh
  Joseph Robinson: or the
  Robert Rodgers: button.
  Joseph Robinson: integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: So that's kind of on your mouse and then you can click it, adjust it, click again and then you're out of it. But
  Robert Rodgers: Exactly.
  Joseph Robinson: you still But you then still need to have Well you can use the scroll-wheel as well for um maybe for the channels. But you still um
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah it's r Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: You still have to have some some button in the
  Alvin Jones: So
  Joseph Robinson: menu
  Alvin Jones: you do one
  Joseph Robinson: to go
  Alvin Jones: inte
  Joseph Robinson: back.
  Alvin Jones: You can do one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: And then just drop all the other buttons.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Well not all. Not
  Alvin Jones: But
  Joseph Robinson: s not sound
  Alvin Jones: but
  Joseph Robinson: I
  Alvin Jones: th
  Joseph Robinson: guess.
  Alvin Jones: the cost of one
  Robert Rodgers: No.
  Alvin Jones: integrated button is far more than a few extra push-buttons.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah. It's uh One integrated button is five times the cost of a normal
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: button.
  Joseph Robinson: Mm.
  Alvin Jones: So we
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Alvin Jones: have to to make it s uh more uh It has
  Henry Jefferson: You
  Alvin Jones: to be
  Henry Jefferson: could also drop j three more of these, without losing much functionality.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: You
  Joseph Robinson: Wh
  Henry Jefferson: just
  Joseph Robinson: wh
  Henry Jefferson: drop
  Joseph Robinson: what
  Henry Jefferson: the
  Joseph Robinson: what
  Henry Jefferson: Okay
  Joseph Robinson: what
  Henry Jefferson: and
  Joseph Robinson: is
  Henry Jefferson: the Back.
  Joseph Robinson: the what is the uh sample sensor sample speaker?
  Henry Jefferson: Oh, that's for the speech.
  Joseph Robinson: Speech recognition.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Could
  Joseph Robinson: Right.
  Alvin Jones: drop the speech recognition.
  Henry Jefferson: S s Drop speech recognition?
  Robert Rodgers: No but
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah that's
  Alvin Jones: We
  Henry Jefferson: possible.
  Alvin Jones: we d
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah it's it's expensive, but uh we never considered the possibilities of uh speech recognition. 'Cause it can take the function of a lot of uh
  Henry Jefferson: Buttons.
  Joseph Robinson: Buttons.
  Robert Rodgers: uh buttons.
  Henry Jefferson: That's
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: not
  Robert Rodgers: I
  Henry Jefferson: very easy to use.
  Joseph Robinson: No,
  Robert Rodgers: No.
  Joseph Robinson: it can be disturbed by by noise and
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: stuff
  Robert Rodgers: but lets
  Joseph Robinson: like
  Robert Rodgers: just say that
  Joseph Robinson: that. Let
  Robert Rodgers: the speech
  Joseph Robinson: let let
  Robert Rodgers: recognition
  Joseph Robinson: Joseph Robinson see what's more
  Robert Rodgers: works.
  Joseph Robinson: what's more popular. I guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: I have to look on that. Let Joseph Robinson see. Uh well no I was wrong. There are more people who like speech recognition than
  Henry Jefferson: Yep.
  Joseph Robinson: an L_C_D_ screen.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay. Because if you d
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Henry Jefferson: lose
  Joseph Robinson: if it
  Henry Jefferson: the L_C_D_ screen,
  Joseph Robinson: But it
  Henry Jefferson: we
  Joseph Robinson: it it's a it's a both
  Alvin Jones: We
  Joseph Robinson: a
  Alvin Jones: lose
  Henry Jefferson: need
  Joseph Robinson: hypers
  Alvin Jones: our
  Henry Jefferson: a lot
  Alvin Jones: whole
  Henry Jefferson: of
  Alvin Jones: concept. Uh
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: so No we
  Henry Jefferson: We need
  Alvin Jones: just
  Henry Jefferson: a
  Joseph Robinson: No,
  Henry Jefferson: lot of extra
  Joseph Robinson: but
  Henry Jefferson: buttons.
  Alvin Jones: We keep
  Joseph Robinson: Well
  Alvin Jones: the
  Joseph Robinson: we
  Alvin Jones: L_C_D_.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah we keep the screen. I mean it's it's about the same. Eight one to ninety one percent, uh
  Robert Rodgers: We
  Henry Jefferson: Okay
  Joseph Robinson: sixty
  Robert Rodgers: uh we
  Henry Jefferson: so
  Joseph Robinson: six
  Robert Rodgers: we
  Henry Jefferson: we drop
  Joseph Robinson: to
  Robert Rodgers: haven't
  Joseph Robinson: seventy
  Henry Jefferson: the speech.
  Robert Rodgers: really
  Joseph Robinson: six.
  Robert Rodgers: integrated this the speech into the system, so we can might as well s
  Henry Jefferson: And
  Robert Rodgers: drop
  Henry Jefferson: drop
  Robert Rodgers: that.
  Henry Jefferson: it
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: yeah?
  Joseph Robinson: Let's
  Henry Jefferson: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: drop
  Henry Jefferson: S
  Joseph Robinson: the speech.
  Henry Jefferson: Fo Four less Euros.
  Joseph Robinson: Sixteen
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: Euros.
  Henry Jefferson: we still have three and a half Euro to lose.
  Robert Rodgers: We need
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Robert Rodgers: to
  Joseph Robinson: y y
  Robert Rodgers: lose some buttons.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah if you lose the the Back, the Okay button Uh v let's say we only have the four arrows,
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: and the Menu button.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Then
  Joseph Robinson: And
  Henry Jefferson: you're
  Joseph Robinson: then and then use um
  Henry Jefferson: Oh and the power button we have also.
  Joseph Robinson: The the Okay. And the menu button does also does the okay function then.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: And then when you in the menu
  Henry Jefferson: So that's one
  Joseph Robinson: S
  Henry Jefferson: Euro.
  Joseph Robinson: so so you activate the menu.
  Alvin Jones: If we do uh two integrated scroll-wheel push-buttons, we
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: can drop all the the push-buttons.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah?
  Alvin Jones: With
  Henry Jefferson: And
  Alvin Jones: with one uh integrated button we can uh do the whole menu thing.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: With
  Joseph Robinson: yeah.
  Alvin Jones: the other, we can do the the channel, the volume, et cetera.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: That would save zero point two Euros compared to No.
  Alvin Jones: No it's three Euros. No? Um
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: No
  Henry Jefferson: To
  Alvin Jones: it's
  Henry Jefferson: This
  Alvin Jones: it's
  Henry Jefferson: together
  Alvin Jones: n Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: is more expensive than
  Alvin Jones: Yeah yeah
  Henry Jefferson: Oof,
  Alvin Jones: yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: it's almost the same as t keeping this.
  Joseph Robinson: Well okay.
  Henry Jefferson: And we can
  Joseph Robinson: For
  Henry Jefferson: drop
  Alvin Jones: It's
  Joseph Robinson: example
  Henry Jefferson: these
  Alvin Jones: the
  Joseph Robinson: if you have f
  Henry Jefferson: two.
  Joseph Robinson: f four buttons, channel up and down, uh volume
  Henry Jefferson: Volume.
  Joseph Robinson: left right Okay, I've I think we have to keep that.
  Henry Jefferson: And the
  Joseph Robinson: And
  Henry Jefferson: power
  Joseph Robinson: then
  Henry Jefferson: button.
  Joseph Robinson: and the power button. So that's five.
  Henry Jefferson: That's the basic.
  Joseph Robinson: That's basic. That that's what you need anyway. And then for the menu, um you can have a button that activates menu. Or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button. And then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel, the the the menu gets activated, and then you can scroll, choose an option, click on it, it goes into an feature. Click on it again, selects features, scroll, adjust it. Click again, it's okay. Then you only need one button to move back. Or or under each option, you set a you set an a screen thing what says back, and you select that one, click again, and you go one step back. And in that menu, scroll, click, one step back. So that then you need five buttons,
  Henry Jefferson: Yep.
  Joseph Robinson: and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button.
  Robert Rodgers: Which
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Henry Jefferson: Okay
  Joseph Robinson: we
  Henry Jefferson: th
  Joseph Robinson: can't
  Henry Jefferson: that's
  Robert Rodgers: That's
  Joseph Robinson: drop three buttons. But I
  Robert Rodgers: even
  Joseph Robinson: see
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: that's
  Henry Jefferson: that's one Euro more expensive.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. So that's not a good
  Henry Jefferson: That's
  Joseph Robinson: idea.
  Henry Jefferson: not an option.
  Joseph Robinson: Because which buttons do we have now? Those five which I mentioned, and then menu, and
  Henry Jefferson: Menu,
  Joseph Robinson: then
  Henry Jefferson: power.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. F of the four things?
  Henry Jefferson: Four arrows?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, th power.
  Henry Jefferson: Power. Uh
  Joseph Robinson: Which
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah, if
  Joseph Robinson: more?
  Robert Rodgers: you if you go to eight I don't know how to
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah. Okay. So four arrows?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: Power.
  Henry Jefferson: power I believe?
  Joseph Robinson: Th Yeah that's five.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh We have a Back and a Okay button.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, okay that's seven,
  Henry Jefferson: And
  Joseph Robinson: and
  Henry Jefferson: the
  Joseph Robinson: one to activate the menu,
  Henry Jefferson: Menu.
  Joseph Robinson: yeah. So okay that's eight. Well we can't reduce that. We we keep the display. Oh, well
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah,
  Joseph Robinson: okay.
  Henry Jefferson: and even if we drop three buttons from here, we still have to make some adjustments around here. So
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah, we need the chip for the for the
  Henry Jefferson: The
  Robert Rodgers: L_C_
  Henry Jefferson: L_C_D_?
  Robert Rodgers: display.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Let's
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: make
  Joseph Robinson: well we
  Alvin Jones: the
  Joseph Robinson: need
  Alvin Jones: Let's
  Joseph Robinson: the
  Alvin Jones: make
  Joseph Robinson: advanced
  Alvin Jones: the case plastic.
  Joseph Robinson: Instead
  Henry Jefferson: Then I rather
  Joseph Robinson: of r
  Henry Jefferson: make it wood. Because then also it's good in the market with the
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: forty five plus uh
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: people.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Robert Rodgers: True.
  Joseph Robinson: but but that's not
  Alvin Jones: But
  Joseph Robinson: our market.
  Henry Jefferson: No that maybe not. But maybe it's better than plastic anyway.
  Joseph Robinson: Ah no, hard plastic.
  Alvin Jones: Plastic
  Robert Rodgers: Oh.
  Alvin Jones: with a with a special colour. A
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah,
  Alvin Jones: woo wood
  Joseph Robinson: plastic
  Alvin Jones: uh wood
  Joseph Robinson: with special
  Alvin Jones: uh wood
  Joseph Robinson: colour.
  Alvin Jones: colour.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah?
  Alvin Jones: That's
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: an option.
  Henry Jefferson: okay
  Joseph Robinson: No
  Henry Jefferson: uh
  Joseph Robinson: but I I Because we have to use the special colour anyway. You forgot that.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yep. Yeah, yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Alvin Jones: So
  Joseph Robinson: let's
  Alvin Jones: we do
  Joseph Robinson: go
  Alvin Jones: one
  Joseph Robinson: for the plastic.
  Alvin Jones: one s Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, okay. Plastic.
  Joseph Robinson: And since it's not kinetic, it doesn't have to flip
  Henry Jefferson: Uh that's
  Joseph Robinson: around
  Henry Jefferson: easy
  Joseph Robinson: that
  Henry Jefferson: because
  Joseph Robinson: much?
  Henry Jefferson: plastic
  Robert Rodgers: Hmm.
  Henry Jefferson: is free.
  Alvin Jones: Hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: We still have problem of two Euros.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, okay. Uh if we dropped uh
  Alvin Jones: No the buttons, those are really needed.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: we can't
  Alvin Jones: th th
  Joseph Robinson: drop
  Alvin Jones: it's
  Joseph Robinson: them.
  Alvin Jones: it's uh An advanced chip-on-print.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah uh
  Henry Jefferson: You still need
  Robert Rodgers: You
  Joseph Robinson: Do we
  Henry Jefferson: that.
  Joseph Robinson: really need
  Robert Rodgers: uh uh
  Joseph Robinson: that advanced chip for an L_C_D_ display?
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah. So the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker, and Which can use a regular chip, wh which is six Euros
  Henry Jefferson: S
  Robert Rodgers: in total. That doesn't matter.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh.
  Henry Jefferson: No,
  Joseph Robinson: I rather
  Henry Jefferson: I
  Joseph Robinson: keep
  Henry Jefferson: keep
  Joseph Robinson: I rather
  Henry Jefferson: the re
  Joseph Robinson: keep the display.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Well
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Because
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Henry Jefferson: we already designed for
  Joseph Robinson: the
  Henry Jefferson: it.
  Joseph Robinson: only
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: option is an hand
  Robert Rodgers: Exactly.
  Joseph Robinson: dynamo.
  Alvin Jones: Oh
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: that
  Henry Jefferson: and something else.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh no tha Oh that's
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: one
  Robert Rodgers: but
  Joseph Robinson: Euro,
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Joseph Robinson: right.
  Robert Rodgers: uh can't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button? 'Cause that will save us one and a half Euro already. And
  Joseph Robinson: And
  Robert Rodgers: then
  Joseph Robinson: then
  Robert Rodgers: if
  Joseph Robinson: integrated
  Robert Rodgers: w
  Joseph Robinson: s Yeah but that would make it not so
  Henry Jefferson: No
  Joseph Robinson: easy
  Henry Jefferson: y
  Joseph Robinson: to use.
  Henry Jefferson: you
  Joseph Robinson: I mean it's
  Henry Jefferson: would
  Joseph Robinson: not
  Henry Jefferson: rec
  Joseph Robinson: that important, easy to use, but
  Henry Jefferson: Then you
  Robert Rodgers: Th then we have
  Henry Jefferson: have
  Robert Rodgers: to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want,
  Henry Jefferson: Then you
  Robert Rodgers: huh?
  Henry Jefferson: still
  Robert Rodgers: And
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: need
  Robert Rodgers: uh
  Henry Jefferson: two additional buttons I believe. For
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: the volume.
  Robert Rodgers: d at l
  Henry Jefferson: You
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: can use those Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: At least one for power.
  Alvin Jones: But
  Henry Jefferson: Oh
  Alvin Jones: the
  Henry Jefferson: yeah and power. That's
  Robert Rodgers: Oh.
  Henry Jefferson: three buttons and this would
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah it's
  Henry Jefferson: cost
  Robert Rodgers: just as expensive as what
  Alvin Jones: But
  Robert Rodgers: we
  Alvin Jones: the
  Robert Rodgers: have
  Alvin Jones: integrated
  Robert Rodgers: now.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: uh button? How many func functions can it uh have?
  Henry Jefferson: Three. Up, down,
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: Okay.
  Robert Rodgers: endlessly. I mean it can
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Robert Rodgers: be a power button as soon as it powered on. You
  Joseph Robinson: You
  Robert Rodgers: can
  Joseph Robinson: you
  Robert Rodgers: go
  Joseph Robinson: press
  Robert Rodgers: into
  Joseph Robinson: it for
  Robert Rodgers: you
  Joseph Robinson: like three
  Robert Rodgers: in
  Joseph Robinson: seconds.
  Robert Rodgers: you main menu, you can choose uh flip channel, uh you can choose sound options, any options.
  Joseph Robinson: Then then then you should do everything in the menu.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: On the screen.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, okay. It
  Robert Rodgers: Maybe
  Henry Jefferson: would
  Robert Rodgers: we
  Henry Jefferson: save
  Robert Rodgers: should. 'Cause we
  Henry Jefferson: enough
  Robert Rodgers: don't have money and w we
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Robert Rodgers: want
  Henry Jefferson: you
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Henry Jefferson: can
  Robert Rodgers: screen.
  Henry Jefferson: choose this, drop these, then we have a half Euro left.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: So we can maybe still use power button.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah,
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: but we'd Alright.
  Robert Rodgers: I guess
  Joseph Robinson: It
  Robert Rodgers: we
  Joseph Robinson: s
  Robert Rodgers: have
  Joseph Robinson: it saves
  Robert Rodgers: to.
  Joseph Robinson: us four Euros and it costs us two and a half. So let's see, we
  Robert Rodgers: We'll
  Joseph Robinson: we drop
  Robert Rodgers: we'll
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: be
  Joseph Robinson: the price
  Robert Rodgers: on
  Henry Jefferson: You see?
  Joseph Robinson: by one and a half. But we still have thirteen
  Henry Jefferson: Oh still
  Joseph Robinson: left.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah? Oh then I miscalculated. Oh yeah. Shit.
  Joseph Robinson: There
  Henry Jefferson: Drop
  Joseph Robinson: goes
  Henry Jefferson: the special
  Joseph Robinson: the special co
  Alvin Jones: Oh no.
  Joseph Robinson: Well
  Henry Jefferson: colour.
  Joseph Robinson: That would make it less appealing. So that's no option.
  Henry Jefferson: 'Kay. What else? Uncurved?
  Alvin Jones: No no, it has to be um
  Joseph Robinson: We sure
  Alvin Jones: curved.
  Joseph Robinson: about the advanced chip we need for the display?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah it says right here.
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Henry Jefferson: They made
  Joseph Robinson: Well
  Henry Jefferson: it very easy for us.
  Joseph Robinson: yeah. yeah. We made it hard for ourselves with the display, but
  Henry Jefferson: Ah,
  Joseph Robinson: it's a cool
  Henry Jefferson: I
  Joseph Robinson: feature.
  Henry Jefferson: don't think I can s uh persuade the management to say, this is better for the market so you sell more
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Henry Jefferson: than
  Alvin Jones: Wh what we could do is um drop the the special colour,
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: and uh do the special colour for the buttons.
  Henry Jefferson: Buttons. That's Oh yeah since we only have one button.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah but I mean what is meant by special colour?
  Henry Jefferson: I just
  Alvin Jones: Just
  Henry Jefferson: m
  Alvin Jones: something
  Henry Jefferson: I don't
  Alvin Jones: else
  Henry Jefferson: I
  Alvin Jones: than
  Henry Jefferson: think
  Alvin Jones: than black or white
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Alvin Jones: I think.
  Henry Jefferson: yeah it's I think it's grey, regular.
  Joseph Robinson: S yeah. Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: Grey and rubber.
  Robert Rodgers: But we definitely want
  Henry Jefferson: Of
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Henry Jefferson: plastic.
  Robert Rodgers: thing to be a special colour
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: though.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. So I rather
  Robert Rodgers: Damn.
  Joseph Robinson: have an hand dynamo
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah and then
  Joseph Robinson: than than drop the colour.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: You
  Robert Rodgers: yeah
  Joseph Robinson: can still
  Robert Rodgers: yeah
  Joseph Robinson: play
  Robert Rodgers: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: with it then I guess. I don't know.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, but a hand dynamo costs a lot of energy to keep the screen working. So I guess that isn't an option.
  Alvin Jones: The display
  Robert Rodgers: Well,
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: you only have to
  Alvin Jones: The
  Robert Rodgers: power it up when you wanna use it.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: But if
  Robert Rodgers: I
  Alvin Jones: you
  Robert Rodgers: don't
  Alvin Jones: have
  Robert Rodgers: know.
  Alvin Jones: to power the for ten minutes, then
  Henry Jefferson: No
  Alvin Jones: the
  Henry Jefferson: I don't think
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: the current status of uh chips are pretty uh
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: energy conserving, no.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah true.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Let's let's go for the hand dynamo then.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah hand dynamo? Do you want an extra button?
  Joseph Robinson: Or or do we Or do we do uncurved and flat? Instead of
  Alvin Jones: No no it has to be curved.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah it
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: has to be curved and
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: has to have that colour.
  Alvin Jones: Just put
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: a
  Joseph Robinson: And
  Alvin Jones: special
  Joseph Robinson: a screen.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: special
  Robert Rodgers: That's
  Alvin Jones: colour
  Robert Rodgers: the most
  Alvin Jones: of the buttons,
  Robert Rodgers: import
  Alvin Jones: or something.
  Henry Jefferson: Yep? Instead of
  Alvin Jones: Yeah or
  Henry Jefferson: an
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: additional
  Alvin Jones: spe
  Henry Jefferson: power
  Alvin Jones: special
  Henry Jefferson: button?
  Alvin Jones: form?
  Joseph Robinson: S what what is special f Oh yeah, special form.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah?
  Joseph Robinson: Maybe that's nicer.
  Henry Jefferson: It's for scroll
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Henry Jefferson: Without
  Joseph Robinson: we don't have any buttons. So
  Robert Rodgers: We only
  Joseph Robinson: do
  Robert Rodgers: have
  Joseph Robinson: d Uh make
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: it a
  Alvin Jones: But
  Joseph Robinson: special
  Alvin Jones: it's
  Joseph Robinson: colour
  Alvin Jones: it's for
  Joseph Robinson: then.
  Alvin Jones: the integrated button, I think also. Or
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: ma
  Robert Rodgers: but
  Joseph Robinson: make it a special colour
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: then.
  Henry Jefferson: but it's just a scroll-wheel which
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: you can push
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Henry Jefferson: down.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: Okay. Make
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah?
  Joseph Robinson: it a special colour and then it look fancy.
  Alvin Jones: Yep.
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Henry Jefferson: Woah we're within budget.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: It's
  Alvin Jones: Oh
  Henry Jefferson: a
  Joseph Robinson: Let's
  Henry Jefferson: miracle.
  Alvin Jones: just oh
  Joseph Robinson: let's
  Alvin Jones: ma
  Joseph Robinson: save
  Alvin Jones: make
  Joseph Robinson: it.
  Alvin Jones: it two special colours, but we only have one button.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: Let's do it like this, I mean, because
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah?
  Joseph Robinson: it does not lose our identity of the product as we
  Henry Jefferson: Okay. Um, well. 'Kay, this was old.
  Robert Rodgers: Well we come back to the drawing board then, huh?
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah back to work.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah all
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: your
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: designs are uh pretty much
  Robert Rodgers: It's
  Henry Jefferson: Did
  Robert Rodgers: silly
  Henry Jefferson: I
  Robert Rodgers: 'cause we we
  Henry Jefferson: save
  Robert Rodgers: should have had this
  Henry Jefferson: it?
  Robert Rodgers: meeting before we start drawing.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah but that but that's the fun part of
  Henry Jefferson: I
  Joseph Robinson: it.
  Henry Jefferson: I wanted to go,
  Robert Rodgers: Oh yeah?
  Henry Jefferson: but I wasn't allowed. So
  Robert Rodgers: okay.
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh I just forgot to save this. Just a minute.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah what's the next uh phase?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, this the last phase of course, so
  Joseph Robinson: Uh the agenda. By your humble P_M_.
  Henry Jefferson: Hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh f
  Henry Jefferson: Oh.
  Joseph Robinson: Frustrated. Alright. Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay. Um Well we first should have had a uh prototype presentation. But well as you saw that hadn't made no sense, because we had to
  Robert Rodgers: Drop
  Henry Jefferson: drop
  Robert Rodgers: everything.
  Henry Jefferson: it.
  Joseph Robinson: Drop, yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Robert Rodgers: We went straight into finance?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah. Yeah it was more important, so
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: I
  Robert Rodgers: For
  Henry Jefferson: just
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: pushed
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: up the agenda. Uh, evaluation criteria. You have t
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: produced
  Joseph Robinson: that
  Henry Jefferson: something
  Joseph Robinson: that's
  Henry Jefferson: about that?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. I uh I sure did. And it combines with product evaluation. Uh so
  Henry Jefferson: Uh you put it in the.
  Joseph Robinson: We all have to keep in mind what has changed now. So what we have left on the
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements. Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: F_ five.
  Joseph Robinson: Let's make it big. Um Well we evaluate uh the design with a seven point scale, as following. Well the remote controls according criteria blah blah blah. True or false, and then on a scale of seven points, a scale,
  Robert Rodgers: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: as we all know it. Um Well the criteria are based on the user requirements, uh the trends from the marketing research, and the marketing strategy of the company itself. Um well they are in a Word document, which I will open now.
  Henry Jefferson: Alt up
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. I don't know it's open yet. No. And we all have to uh agree on a certain level. What's this? Oh. I don't know.
  Henry Jefferson: Freaky.
  Joseph Robinson: Um Well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user. So that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions. How do you think about that?
  Robert Rodgers: I think it does. Because the operating behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of L_C_D_, right?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah. Uh, of course
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: we dropped
  Joseph Robinson: the us
  Henry Jefferson: a
  Joseph Robinson: u
  Henry Jefferson: little bit of those uh
  Joseph Robinson: It it it's
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: it's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions, in
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: this question. So do you think
  Robert Rodgers: Well, we have extended menus, on
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Joseph Robinson: You
  Robert Rodgers: on the
  Joseph Robinson: can
  Robert Rodgers: L_C_D_
  Joseph Robinson: you can ma
  Robert Rodgers: screen.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah,
  Alvin Jones: Yep.
  Robert Rodgers: So
  Joseph Robinson: you can make a lot of extended menus. That's true. I mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited,
  Robert Rodgers: I
  Joseph Robinson: to to build in menus in the screen.
  Robert Rodgers: No.
  Joseph Robinson: So on a scale from one to seven, what do you
  Alvin Jones: Two
  Joseph Robinson: think?
  Alvin Jones: or three.
  Joseph Robinson: Huh?
  Alvin Jones: Two or three.
  Joseph Robinson: Two or three? Something like that? Well we
  Henry Jefferson: Two.
  Joseph Robinson: have
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: to choose one. So uh what do you say?
  Henry Jefferson: Uh y
  Joseph Robinson: I agree
  Henry Jefferson: we should
  Joseph Robinson: on two.
  Henry Jefferson: fill this in now.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah okay.
  Joseph Robinson: I
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: uh I say two, personally. But
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah in
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: the
  Robert Rodgers: alright.
  Henry Jefferson: new design I s would say it's three. But now, in original design I say
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: two.
  Joseph Robinson: well we have to evaluate I guess what we have now.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay then I say three.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah? You say three,
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: and you you
  Robert Rodgers: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: said al also three? Three?
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Okay well I say still two, but it has to be three then.
  Henry Jefferson: Hey, you're marketing, eh.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah I know. So it's made bold. But it's
  Henry Jefferson: Hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: nah, it's
  Henry Jefferson: M
  Joseph Robinson: not very
  Henry Jefferson: maybe
  Joseph Robinson: clear
  Henry Jefferson: underline.
  Joseph Robinson: on the sc
  Alvin Jones: Or give it a colour.
  Joseph Robinson: Maybe other colour, yeah. That's better. Uh
  Henry Jefferson: Red.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Alright. Oh, it doesn't have to be bold anymore. Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: Oh yeah very true.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah true one.
  Joseph Robinson: Um well the remote
  Henry Jefferson: He
  Joseph Robinson: control
  Henry Jefferson: types everything.
  Joseph Robinson: has Wha
  Robert Rodgers: Definitely one.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: It has to be.
  Joseph Robinson: The remote control has irrelevant or less used functions. For example audio settings
  Alvin Jones: It
  Joseph Robinson: and
  Alvin Jones: hides
  Joseph Robinson: screen settings.
  Alvin Jones: uh
  Henry Jefferson: Everything.
  Alvin Jones: basic functions.
  Henry Jefferson: You don't
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: use anything
  Joseph Robinson: Well,
  Henry Jefferson: else.
  Joseph Robinson: yeah. So
  Robert Rodgers: You're
  Joseph Robinson: it
  Robert Rodgers: not gonna
  Joseph Robinson: it's
  Robert Rodgers: find
  Joseph Robinson: a very
  Robert Rodgers: them.
  Joseph Robinson: true point. I mean
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah. Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: it hides
  Henry Jefferson: okay.
  Joseph Robinson: all those function.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: But, I mean
  Alvin Jones: true.
  Joseph Robinson: uh they're hidden in the screen. If you don't want to use them, you don't s you s just scroll over them. And you place them
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: F I don't know where. So that's very true, I guess, for our case. Uh
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: the
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Joseph Robinson: second
  Robert Rodgers: next
  Joseph Robinson: point.
  Robert Rodgers: Not so much
  Joseph Robinson: It
  Robert Rodgers: so.
  Joseph Robinson: shows the relevant and most used functions.
  Henry Jefferson: Nope.
  Joseph Robinson: Power button. Do we ha still have a power button?
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: Well yeah the button's integrated,
  Henry Jefferson: check with the
  Joseph Robinson: huh?
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Excel sheet.
  Alvin Jones: I think
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: we
  Robert Rodgers: it's
  Alvin Jones: are
  Robert Rodgers: uh it's integrated.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah we dropped it. You j you just push
  Alvin Jones: It's
  Joseph Robinson: it
  Alvin Jones: in
  Joseph Robinson: in
  Alvin Jones: Oh
  Joseph Robinson: for
  Alvin Jones: yeah it was integrateds.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: integrate
  Joseph Robinson: just just
  Henry Jefferson: it.
  Joseph Robinson: push it in for th for three seconds or something, and then
  Robert Rodgers: E exactly
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: just like a m
  Joseph Robinson: I
  Robert Rodgers: mobile.
  Joseph Robinson: don't
  Henry Jefferson: Just go scrolling and it
  Joseph Robinson: know.
  Henry Jefferson: will
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: activate.
  Joseph Robinson: Um it shows the relevant and most used functions. Yeah uh on the other uh on one side I would say yes, and the other side I would say no. So it's I don't know.
  Henry Jefferson: It shows the most used functions and they are relevant,
  Alvin Jones: Can you uh
  Henry Jefferson: but
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: change channels directly with with just one button? No, you have to
  Joseph Robinson: With
  Alvin Jones: scroll
  Joseph Robinson: the scroll
  Alvin Jones: through
  Joseph Robinson: butt
  Alvin Jones: the menu, before
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah and then say channel.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: And then
  Alvin Jones: So it's
  Robert Rodgers: Well
  Alvin Jones: it's
  Robert Rodgers: uh we
  Alvin Jones: not
  Robert Rodgers: should b build it so that if you don't kind of push into the menu or something, if When it's on, yeah, it's
  Joseph Robinson: Hmm?
  Henry Jefferson: You
  Robert Rodgers: turned
  Henry Jefferson: say
  Robert Rodgers: on,
  Henry Jefferson: you double click on the
  Robert Rodgers: It automatically
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: has the the programme and the volume function, but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Of you Or you double click
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Robert Rodgers: it.
  Joseph Robinson: but how do you change from volume to channel?
  Robert Rodgers: No because it has four arrows, right?
  Henry Jefferson: No, not
  Alvin Jones: No.
  Henry Jefferson: anymore.
  Joseph Robinson: No.
  Henry Jefferson: Because he's
  Robert Rodgers: Oh
  Henry Jefferson: now have
  Robert Rodgers: yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: a scroll-wheel
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: that you can push in.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: Like
  Robert Rodgers: I was
  Henry Jefferson: on
  Robert Rodgers: thinking
  Henry Jefferson: the the mouse.
  Robert Rodgers: still about our uh integrated joystick.
  Joseph Robinson: No we have n we have no buttons left. So
  Robert Rodgers: Say.
  Joseph Robinson: the joystick was not an option.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah that
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Robert Rodgers: is a bummer.
  Joseph Robinson: so
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: you hav So you you have to double-click, I mean, for, I mean, uh
  Henry Jefferson: To
  Joseph Robinson: volume,
  Henry Jefferson: get into menu.
  Joseph Robinson: and three
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: double click for the menu, or something.
  Alvin Jones: Oh no.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Or hold it ten
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: seconds.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Alright.
  Robert Rodgers: We'll make it a Morse code.
  Joseph Robinson: But but ease of use was not very important, may I remind
  Henry Jefferson: No no
  Joseph Robinson: you.
  Henry Jefferson: no.
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: that's
  Henry Jefferson: it should be trendy.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah but that that's not a question. Uh the remote control shows the relevant and most used functions. Well I think it's pretty much in the middle.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah. Four.
  Joseph Robinson: You have to search for them in in the
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, im in the menu.
  Joseph Robinson: in the s in the screen, in the menu. So
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Seven.
  Joseph Robinson: So maybe it's more like a f a five.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Or
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: Five.
  Robert Rodgers: I would go for five or six, yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Five or six?
  Henry Jefferson: Five.
  Robert Rodgers: Okay
  Alvin Jones: Five.
  Robert Rodgers: five.
  Alvin Jones: Yep.
  Joseph Robinson: Five? Alright.
  Robert Rodgers: Let's not diss our remote.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: It's the weirdest
  Joseph Robinson: Oh.
  Henry Jefferson: remote control I've ever seen. So
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yep. Just one button.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Well
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: it's
  Joseph Robinson: Uh
  Henry Jefferson: different.
  Joseph Robinson: the the
  Robert Rodgers: But
  Joseph Robinson: remote
  Robert Rodgers: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: control
  Robert Rodgers: yep.
  Joseph Robinson: makes use of technolog technological innovation like L_C_D_ screen and speech
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: recognition. Well yeah but we dropped the speech recognition.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah,
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Henry Jefferson: it's
  Joseph Robinson: it
  Henry Jefferson: still
  Joseph Robinson: has at least one innovation.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, I say two.
  Joseph Robinson: I say two
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: then.
  Robert Rodgers: We still have the fruit and vegetable print.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: Oh,
  Joseph Robinson: but
  Henry Jefferson: that's
  Robert Rodgers: Fr
  Henry Jefferson: the
  Robert Rodgers: Oh
  Henry Jefferson: next.
  Robert Rodgers: I
  Joseph Robinson: that that's
  Robert Rodgers: mean
  Joseph Robinson: not
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Joseph Robinson: that's not this question.
  Robert Rodgers: Oh
  Joseph Robinson: Uh
  Robert Rodgers: never
  Joseph Robinson: thi
  Robert Rodgers: mind.
  Joseph Robinson: uh that's the other question.
  Robert Rodgers: I'm a bit lost.
  Joseph Robinson: This one.
  Alvin Jones: I think a two.
  Henry Jefferson: Two.
  Joseph Robinson: Two
  Alvin Jones: No.
  Joseph Robinson: yeah. I think
  Alvin Jones: Yep.
  Joseph Robinson: L_C_D_'s more useful than speech
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: What?
  Henry Jefferson: definitely.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh not the bold one.
  Robert Rodgers: It's way more practical, yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Right. Okay, it has a fancy look and feel by using fruit and vegetable prints, primary colours and sponge-like material. It should have
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: been two questions. I realise now, because sponge-like material is dropped. But the look and feel
  Henry Jefferson: You
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: still have rubber d
  Robert Rodgers: So we still
  Henry Jefferson: Or no.
  Robert Rodgers: uh
  Alvin Jones: No
  Robert Rodgers: we still
  Alvin Jones: you got
  Robert Rodgers: have the
  Alvin Jones: a
  Robert Rodgers: primary
  Alvin Jones: plastic.
  Robert Rodgers: colours.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: But only
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: on the on the outside, not on the button.
  Joseph Robinson: The button has also colour.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Okay.
  Henry Jefferson: The one button we have.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: The
  Robert Rodgers: still
  Joseph Robinson: one.
  Robert Rodgers: we we dropped also on the the double uh curve.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah you
  Joseph Robinson: Mm
  Henry Jefferson: could check
  Joseph Robinson: mm.
  Henry Jefferson: with the
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Excel sheet.
  Alvin Jones: You
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: only
  Joseph Robinson: we have
  Alvin Jones: have
  Joseph Robinson: single
  Alvin Jones: one
  Joseph Robinson: curve now,
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: And
  Joseph Robinson: and no
  Robert Rodgers: and colour.
  Joseph Robinson: and no material.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah. S
  Joseph Robinson: So maybe in the middle or
  Alvin Jones: Four.
  Joseph Robinson: something.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, I mean it's
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah or three.
  Joseph Robinson: worth
  Robert Rodgers: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: the Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: We have
  Robert Rodgers: Actually
  Henry Jefferson: something.
  Robert Rodgers: we d we didn't do so well on this one. Because it's basically an old one, uh with little curve on the side, and in a different colour. Still, it's still
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: hard. I mean the sponge-like and the three D_ shape, that would give it something young and
  Henry Jefferson: New.
  Robert Rodgers: fresh.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. But then we would have to drop
  Alvin Jones: Red.
  Joseph Robinson: the screen. Oh red. Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: You like both.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. I like bold. Uh the remote control displays the corporate logo.
  Henry Jefferson: Um oh yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Mm yeah
  Robert Rodgers: Of course.
  Alvin Jones: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: I
  Joseph Robinson: You just
  Henry Jefferson: just
  Joseph Robinson: have to draw
  Henry Jefferson: couldn't
  Joseph Robinson: it.
  Henry Jefferson: Um, just one minute.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah but it
  Alvin Jones: It's the white
  Robert Rodgers: be
  Alvin Jones: part
  Robert Rodgers: because
  Alvin Jones: uh
  Robert Rodgers: uh we couldn't hardly draw on the b s on the lower half of the screen, we could not make it big enough to actually draw in the
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: So
  Alvin Jones: We have a we
  Robert Rodgers: I
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Robert Rodgers: mean
  Alvin Jones: have a
  Robert Rodgers: I wanted to put digits on the buttons as well. But
  Joseph Robinson: But there's uh enough space for the corporate logo. I mean, if
  Robert Rodgers: Hell
  Joseph Robinson: there's only
  Robert Rodgers: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: one
  Robert Rodgers: If we
  Joseph Robinson: thing.
  Robert Rodgers: have only one button.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. So I will say that is very true.
  Alvin Jones: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Rodgers: And even the shape we have now uh simulates kind of an R_ and the reversed R_, doesn't it?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. The
  Robert Rodgers: So
  Joseph Robinson: remote control is easy to use. Well I would say
  Robert Rodgers: No.
  Joseph Robinson: Skill, uh I would say six, or something. I don't think it's easy to use, or not
  Robert Rodgers: The only
  Joseph Robinson: so.
  Alvin Jones: Ah
  Robert Rodgers: e the only
  Alvin Jones: i
  Robert Rodgers: thing easy about it is that you don't have to move your fingers.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: 'Cause it has only
  Alvin Jones: And
  Robert Rodgers: one
  Alvin Jones: that
  Robert Rodgers: button.
  Alvin Jones: you only have to control one button.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah exactly.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. It it it has a nice screen. But Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: It gives visual feedback. So
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Well I I would say a five or a six.
  Robert Rodgers: I would
  Alvin Jones: I think
  Robert Rodgers: say six.
  Alvin Jones: a five. Five.
  Joseph Robinson: What do you say? Easy
  Robert Rodgers: It's
  Joseph Robinson: to use?
  Robert Rodgers: really not
  Joseph Robinson: Five
  Robert Rodgers: easy
  Joseph Robinson: or a
  Robert Rodgers: to
  Joseph Robinson: six?
  Robert Rodgers: use. 'Cause
  Henry Jefferson: No
  Robert Rodgers: you're putting
  Henry Jefferson: not
  Robert Rodgers: everything
  Henry Jefferson: anymore.
  Joseph Robinson: So a six, more.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, uh I would go for the six too.
  Alvin Jones: Okay. Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Robert Rodgers: Most votes count. Um
  Joseph Robinson: Um
  Alvin Jones: Yeah that
  Joseph Robinson: well,
  Alvin Jones: looks uh great.
  Joseph Robinson: another question, uh the remote control is durable. I don't know if that's the correct
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: word.
  Robert Rodgers: Definitely
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Alvin Jones: Nah
  Joseph Robinson: uh
  Robert Rodgers: in casing,
  Joseph Robinson: In
  Robert Rodgers: 'cause
  Joseph Robinson: use,
  Robert Rodgers: we have a hard
  Joseph Robinson: both
  Robert Rodgers: plastic
  Joseph Robinson: battery as casing?
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah?
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah because the the batteries, those thingies last forever.
  Joseph Robinson: True, true.
  Robert Rodgers: And the
  Joseph Robinson: And the casing is plastic,
  Robert Rodgers: the casing, hard plastic also lasts forever.
  Alvin Jones: Yep.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: If you don't drop it too much, it's
  Robert Rodgers: So
  Joseph Robinson: uh should last pretty long.
  Robert Rodgers: I would go for one.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah? But uh I think rubber compared
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: is better.
  Alvin Jones: S
  Joseph Robinson: So I think a two is more appropriate
  Alvin Jones: Yep.
  Robert Rodgers: Okay yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: than
  Alvin Jones: Wow.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Logo.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Okay I will go go for two. Uh the last one? The remote control's a good example for company's motto, we put
  Robert Rodgers: Oh.
  Joseph Robinson: the fashion in electronics.
  Robert Rodgers: No m
  Alvin Jones: No we put the electronics into the fashion.
  Joseph Robinson: uh turn around. Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Robert Rodgers: I
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Robert Rodgers: would
  Joseph Robinson: um
  Henry Jefferson: well
  Robert Rodgers: g
  Henry Jefferson: yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: I would go for four.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah?
  Henry Jefferson: No
  Robert Rodgers: Because we
  Joseph Robinson: It's
  Robert Rodgers: kind
  Joseph Robinson: not
  Robert Rodgers: of tried to but we kind of failed with the budget that we have.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, true.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah okay.
  Joseph Robinson: So a four. It's it g it g goes, it's not the best we could do,
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: I guess. But it all has to do with the budget, because it's it's not the bad idea we had, so
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah. Yeah yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah, four
  Joseph Robinson: Alright,
  Alvin Jones: is okay.
  Joseph Robinson: yeah. Right.
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Robert Rodgers: That's it.
  Joseph Robinson: if I understood it right, we have to count these numbers.
  Henry Jefferson: Ooh. And
  Joseph Robinson: Uh
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah? What?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh Alright. Word document, the
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Henry Jefferson: That
  Joseph Robinson: we have to count them.
  Henry Jefferson: Count them.
  Joseph Robinson: Uh
  Henry Jefferson: Add them? Or
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah just add them and then uh
  Henry Jefferson: Could
  Joseph Robinson: divide
  Henry Jefferson: somebody start
  Joseph Robinson: them.
  Henry Jefferson: calculator?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Mm. I
  Robert Rodgers: Ah
  Joseph Robinson: all made
  Robert Rodgers: we can
  Joseph Robinson: it
  Robert Rodgers: do
  Joseph Robinson: po
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Joseph Robinson: I
  Robert Rodgers: math.
  Joseph Robinson: I all made it I all made it
  Robert Rodgers: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: possible uh for a positive questions,
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: so we can count it. I mean if you have reversed
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah,
  Joseph Robinson: question,
  Henry Jefferson: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: you have to
  Henry Jefferson: You
  Joseph Robinson: reverse
  Henry Jefferson: have to
  Joseph Robinson: the scale, uh
  Henry Jefferson: 'Kay.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yes.
  Henry Jefferson: So four and
  Robert Rodgers: Did you make this questionnaire or what?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Thanks.
  Henry Jefferson: Nice work.
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Robert Rodgers: Oh.
  Alvin Jones: Three plus?
  Robert Rodgers: I wouldn't be able to
  Henry Jefferson: O
  Robert Rodgers: do
  Henry Jefferson: one.
  Robert Rodgers: it that fast.
  Alvin Jones: Plus one.
  Henry Jefferson: Plus five.
  Alvin Jones: Plus five?
  Henry Jefferson: Bo
  Joseph Robinson: Oh Easy. Question number four, yeah?
  Henry Jefferson: Uh two.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: F
  Henry Jefferson: Four.
  Alvin Jones: Oh. Wait a second. Oh. It's it's gone wrong.
  Joseph Robinson: How hard is it?
  Alvin Jones: Okay. It's your
  Robert Rodgers: Pretty
  Alvin Jones: turn.
  Robert Rodgers: difficult.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah just
  Henry Jefferson: Start
  Joseph Robinson: use
  Alvin Jones: No it's
  Henry Jefferson: over?
  Alvin Jones: if you press
  Joseph Robinson: Oh there tho
  Alvin Jones: twice
  Joseph Robinson: uh there's
  Alvin Jones: on the
  Joseph Robinson: no
  Alvin Jones: plus
  Joseph Robinson: n
  Alvin Jones: button, then you
  Joseph Robinson: There's
  Alvin Jones: get
  Joseph Robinson: no num
  Alvin Jones: s s
  Joseph Robinson: pads.
  Henry Jefferson: You can
  Alvin Jones: No.
  Henry Jefferson: Oh yeah.
  Alvin Jones: That's why it's uh
  Joseph Robinson: It's a it's a bit uh
  Robert Rodgers: Just type in the digits. They're all one digit numbers right? And then you can count them together.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. I think you can
  Alvin Jones: Just
  Joseph Robinson: just
  Alvin Jones: count
  Joseph Robinson: count
  Alvin Jones: it
  Joseph Robinson: them
  Alvin Jones: to
  Joseph Robinson: by a
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Um let's move
  Henry Jefferson: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: over. Three, plus one,
  Henry Jefferson: Three, four,
  Joseph Robinson: four. Nine.
  Henry Jefferson: nine. Uh
  Joseph Robinson: Uh, yeah. Are you here? Eleven.
  Robert Rodgers: Eleven.
  Henry Jefferson: Eleven,
  Robert Rodgers: Fifteen.
  Joseph Robinson: Fifteen.
  Henry Jefferson: fifteen.
  Alvin Jones: Sixteen.
  Robert Rodgers: Sixteen.
  Joseph Robinson: Sixteen, yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Seventeen.
  Henry Jefferson: Seventeen.
  Joseph Robinson: No sixteen. Uh sixteen plus
  Robert Rodgers: Oh
  Joseph Robinson: six.
  Robert Rodgers: what?
  Alvin Jones: Twenty two.
  Henry Jefferson: S
  Joseph Robinson: Twenty
  Robert Rodgers: How
  Joseph Robinson: two.
  Robert Rodgers: hard is this?
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: Twenty two, yeah?
  Robert Rodgers: Never
  Alvin Jones: Twenty four.
  Robert Rodgers: mind.
  Joseph Robinson: Tw
  Robert Rodgers: Twenty four.
  Alvin Jones: Twenty six.
  Robert Rodgers: Twenty eight.
  Alvin Jones: Oh,
  Joseph Robinson: Twenty
  Alvin Jones: sorry.
  Joseph Robinson: Twenty eight.
  Alvin Jones: Oh my.
  Henry Jefferson: That was the last one. That was
  Robert Rodgers: Twenty
  Henry Jefferson: that.
  Robert Rodgers: eight.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Okay. Twenty eight.
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: Twen Uh okay.
  Henry Jefferson: divided by nine.
  Joseph Robinson: By nine.
  Alvin Jones: Hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: That's uh three uh
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: Or
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah the
  Joseph Robinson: le
  Robert Rodgers: lower
  Joseph Robinson: less
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Joseph Robinson: than a three.
  Robert Rodgers: The lower the score the better, right?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Twenty
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah but
  Joseph Robinson: eight
  Henry Jefferson: Divided
  Joseph Robinson: di
  Henry Jefferson: by nine.
  Joseph Robinson: divided by nine
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: makes
  Henry Jefferson: thr t
  Joseph Robinson: three
  Henry Jefferson: two.
  Joseph Robinson: point one one one one one
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: one
  Henry Jefferson: we're
  Joseph Robinson: one.
  Henry Jefferson: better than average.
  Robert Rodgers: But
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: I Are you sure we this number actually tells us somethings?
  Henry Jefferson: No.
  Robert Rodgers: I don't think so because some
  Alvin Jones: Some
  Robert Rodgers: questions
  Alvin Jones: questions are
  Robert Rodgers: are
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: related to positive issues and some to negative. So if you give a true to a positive, it actually means that the low the lower the better. But if you give true to a negative question
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, but there are no negative questions I guess.
  Robert Rodgers: No?
  Joseph Robinson: Good example. Durable
  Robert Rodgers: Durable,
  Joseph Robinson: use.
  Robert Rodgers: that's good.
  Joseph Robinson: Easy to use.
  Robert Rodgers: Easy to use.
  Joseph Robinson: This is good. Fancy look and feel, that's good.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Technology innovation was
  Robert Rodgers: Also
  Joseph Robinson: good, because
  Robert Rodgers: good.
  Joseph Robinson: of a marketing uh requirement. Re
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: relevant
  Robert Rodgers: okay.
  Joseph Robinson: most used function.
  Robert Rodgers: I guess you
  Joseph Robinson: And
  Robert Rodgers: did do it.
  Joseph Robinson: hides these functions. That was also a good thing.
  Alvin Jones: Oh yeah. Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Oh yeah
  Joseph Robinson: And
  Robert Rodgers: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: then matches
  Robert Rodgers: No
  Joseph Robinson: the opera of the user was also
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: a good thing.
  Robert Rodgers: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: So it
  Robert Rodgers: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: were all positive questions,
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah true.
  Joseph Robinson: by uh by purpose. So Yes, so the It tells us something, yes. Becau But
  Alvin Jones: Oh
  Joseph Robinson: the
  Alvin Jones: great.
  Joseph Robinson: picture would be a lot different if we didn't have to drop those uh
  Henry Jefferson: Things,
  Joseph Robinson: those
  Henry Jefferson: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: things,
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: I guess.
  Robert Rodgers: definitely definitely.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay.
  Robert Rodgers: Because now it's just an average
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: It's remote.
  Joseph Robinson: Nah it it's it's better than average, but
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah okay because of the L_C_D_ screen. But
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: uh
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Robert Rodgers: it
  Joseph Robinson: th
  Robert Rodgers: looks
  Henry Jefferson: It's still
  Robert Rodgers: and stuff, it still
  Henry Jefferson: yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: uh
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Has
  Robert Rodgers: it's
  Henry Jefferson: some
  Robert Rodgers: not,
  Henry Jefferson: shortcomings.
  Robert Rodgers: it's not really eye-catching, except for
  Joseph Robinson: No.
  Robert Rodgers: the colour.
  Joseph Robinson: The colour and the screen.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay so Um this we had, this we had.
  Robert Rodgers: Product
  Henry Jefferson: We have
  Robert Rodgers: evaluation.
  Henry Jefferson: to do a product evaluation. Uh prototype presentation we dropped. So Uh the finance we looked. We have redesigned. Uh not on that, but
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah we we have to maybe if we have to redesign it on this
  Alvin Jones: Okay
  Robert Rodgers: Shall
  Alvin Jones: it's your
  Robert Rodgers: we try?
  Alvin Jones: turn now.
  Henry Jefferson: So you can just make one big L_C_D_ screen.
  Robert Rodgers: Black.
  Joseph Robinson: With some casing around it, yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Okay uh we're still gonna go for the fancy colours?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: uh
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: But are we gonna stick with the green or are we gonna do blue?
  Alvin Jones: Yeah we we can just uh use this one. And then uh over-paint it with uh
  Henry Jefferson: The the button has
  Alvin Jones: uh
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: a special
  Alvin Jones: the green
  Henry Jefferson: colour, the
  Alvin Jones: uh he only
  Henry Jefferson: frame
  Alvin Jones: needs
  Henry Jefferson: has a special colour.
  Alvin Jones: one button.
  Robert Rodgers: One scroll
  Henry Jefferson: It's
  Robert Rodgers: button
  Henry Jefferson: plastic.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: and
  Alvin Jones: Or we have to delete this one
  Henry Jefferson: And
  Alvin Jones: or
  Henry Jefferson: single curved.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Oh and you might want to add a uh infrared LED.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Oh oh no.
  Robert Rodgers: For
  Henry Jefferson: Otherwise
  Robert Rodgers: what?
  Henry Jefferson: it uh doesn't function uh
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Henry Jefferson: so well.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: So that's
  Joseph Robinson: Do we have to do other things?
  Henry Jefferson: Well
  Joseph Robinson: Or just redesign?
  Henry Jefferson: I have to um um make an uh report of every decision we made so far.
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: And I try to get chip just before uh I uh receive the Excel sheet.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: So I
  Joseph Robinson: So you made a start, right?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah I'm I'm somewhere, but maybe
  Robert Rodgers: Should
  Henry Jefferson: you
  Robert Rodgers: give
  Henry Jefferson: can
  Robert Rodgers: it
  Henry Jefferson: help
  Robert Rodgers: some
  Henry Jefferson: Joseph Robinson.
  Robert Rodgers: time?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yay.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Alvin Jones: Okay, but how do we make the the scroll
  Henry Jefferson: I was here.
  Alvin Jones: uh button?
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Alvin Jones: It's just one
  Robert Rodgers: Have to
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Robert Rodgers: take this away also.
  Alvin Jones: yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Ah
  Robert Rodgers: And this um
  Alvin Jones: Uh that's the infrared uh
  Robert Rodgers: Oh
  Alvin Jones: thing.
  Joseph Robinson: The
  Robert Rodgers: yeah,
  Joseph Robinson: the
  Robert Rodgers: of course.
  Joseph Robinson: target group has a
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: weak
  Robert Rodgers: Um
  Joseph Robinson: spot for fruit
  Robert Rodgers: pen
  Joseph Robinson: and vegetables,
  Robert Rodgers: yeah?
  Joseph Robinson: like primary
  Robert Rodgers: Format.
  Joseph Robinson: colours, spongy shape.
  Robert Rodgers: Current
  Joseph Robinson: The
  Robert Rodgers: colour
  Joseph Robinson: playfulness,
  Robert Rodgers: red.
  Joseph Robinson: we decided to use kinetic
  Robert Rodgers: Oh
  Joseph Robinson: energy as a power
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: sour
  Robert Rodgers: we did our special colour for
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: the
  Joseph Robinson: Okay.
  Robert Rodgers: Line
  Joseph Robinson: That's
  Robert Rodgers: widths,
  Joseph Robinson: conceptual,
  Robert Rodgers: now that's
  Joseph Robinson: yes.
  Robert Rodgers: a ten.
  Henry Jefferson: That's enough to get started
  Alvin Jones: Yeah. Um,
  Henry Jefferson: with,
  Alvin Jones: uh it's
  Joseph Robinson: Mm.
  Alvin Jones: just a
  Robert Rodgers: It's gonna
  Alvin Jones: scroll
  Robert Rodgers: be one str
  Joseph Robinson: How
  Henry Jefferson: so
  Joseph Robinson: many
  Robert Rodgers: scroll.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah, is
  Joseph Robinson: pages?
  Alvin Jones: it's horizontal or vertical?
  Henry Jefferson: Uh, I just took one for every step
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: and then
  Alvin Jones: I think
  Henry Jefferson: a
  Joseph Robinson: Y
  Henry Jefferson: conclusion.
  Joseph Robinson: you have
  Robert Rodgers: Horizontal's
  Joseph Robinson: you have done the
  Robert Rodgers: easier
  Joseph Robinson: first two.
  Robert Rodgers: too,
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: 'cause you
  Joseph Robinson: Okay,
  Robert Rodgers: can
  Joseph Robinson: and and the look
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: and feel is
  Robert Rodgers: Is it more natural
  Henry Jefferson: Well
  Robert Rodgers: than this?
  Henry Jefferson: I think I have to make a p
  Robert Rodgers: So
  Henry Jefferson: an
  Robert Rodgers: let's
  Henry Jefferson: issue
  Robert Rodgers: say
  Henry Jefferson: called finance.
  Robert Rodgers: Whoops. 'Kay.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yes.
  Robert Rodgers: Basically.
  Alvin Jones: It doesn't
  Joseph Robinson: The items
  Alvin Jones: look like
  Joseph Robinson: we had
  Alvin Jones: uh
  Joseph Robinson: to drop.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Uh it it's it's not Yeah. It's not very fashionable anymore. But uh it's okay.
  Robert Rodgers: It's really ugly.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Where did we start with price? Twenty
  Alvin Jones: Maybe
  Joseph Robinson: six
  Alvin Jones: m make
  Joseph Robinson: and a half.
  Alvin Jones: it bigger? Or
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: Or not? Or twenty six? Something like that.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah. That looks little bit more uh Maybe
  Robert Rodgers: Oh
  Alvin Jones: that's a s a special colour for it.
  Joseph Robinson: This?
  Alvin Jones: So we can make it uh special?
  Robert Rodgers: What do you mean? Like a other colour than this one?
  Alvin Jones: Or or speckles in it? I dunno. Uh
  Joseph Robinson: Speckles?
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah can we do it uh uh can we do a print?
  Alvin Jones: I'm not sure.
  Robert Rodgers: I think we
  Henry Jefferson: ... I.
  Robert Rodgers: have
  Henry Jefferson: don't
  Robert Rodgers: to choose,
  Henry Jefferson: think so,
  Robert Rodgers: yeah?
  Henry Jefferson: if you see
  Joseph Robinson: Uh
  Henry Jefferson: the options. But
  Robert Rodgers: Okay special colour. We do have special colour. Does it
  Alvin Jones: Yeah
  Robert Rodgers: mean uh
  Alvin Jones: red
  Robert Rodgers: that
  Alvin Jones: is already a special colour, I think. So It's
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: not very special, but uh
  Robert Rodgers: Shall we just give it some dots to make it look pretty?
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Purdy.
  Alvin Jones: Just
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: uh
  Joseph Robinson: Some
  Alvin Jones: put the
  Joseph Robinson: some
  Alvin Jones: purple
  Joseph Robinson: big dots.
  Alvin Jones: uh purple on it.
  Robert Rodgers: Purple?
  Alvin Jones: That's trendy.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah yeah. Oh no
  Joseph Robinson: ... We. have the
  Robert Rodgers: my
  Joseph Robinson: original
  Robert Rodgers: remote
  Joseph Robinson: balance
  Robert Rodgers: has acne.
  Joseph Robinson: sheet, or
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Woah.
  Robert Rodgers: No. That's why we have that button.
  Alvin Jones: Oh yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: It's so cute.
  Alvin Jones: Hmm. Oh what?
  Robert Rodgers: Doh.
  Joseph Robinson: Woah. Just cut. Control Z_.
  Alvin Jones: Oh no.
  Robert Rodgers: Is that that?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: No no. Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: How the
  Alvin Jones: Oh it's
  Robert Rodgers: We
  Alvin Jones: it's just
  Robert Rodgers: did we do
  Alvin Jones: one
  Robert Rodgers: that?
  Alvin Jones: computer?
  Joseph Robinson: Just
  Alvin Jones: Or
  Joseph Robinson: dual screen.
  Alvin Jones: No. But can we delete it, just with delete? Or
  Robert Rodgers: We can try. That doesn't respond also to the undo. It looks like it's
  Alvin Jones: Crashed.
  Robert Rodgers: No,
  Alvin Jones: Oh, no.
  Joseph Robinson: Very
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: nice.
  Robert Rodgers: Where do you want some more dots?
  Alvin Jones: Yeah, over here. Hmm?
  Henry Jefferson: You can't even draw anymore.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Even
  Alvin Jones: What's
  Joseph Robinson: Y y
  Henry Jefferson: children
  Alvin Jones: this?
  Joseph Robinson: you
  Henry Jefferson: can draw.
  Joseph Robinson: you you push the button or something. Or
  Henry Jefferson: Can you just push
  Alvin Jones: Oh
  Henry Jefferson: pen
  Alvin Jones: yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: and then
  Alvin Jones: Oh
  Henry Jefferson: keep
  Alvin Jones: that's
  Henry Jefferson: on
  Alvin Jones: the select button. It's
  Henry Jefferson: Hmm.
  Alvin Jones: uh
  Robert Rodgers: Okay, it's not the prettiest, I know.
  Alvin Jones: No,
  Robert Rodgers: It's
  Alvin Jones: it
  Joseph Robinson: Lot
  Robert Rodgers: not
  Alvin Jones: looks
  Robert Rodgers: so
  Joseph Robinson: of options.
  Robert Rodgers: random huh?
  Alvin Jones: It's okay. Specially the the R_.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, the R_ and another R_.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah okay.
  Joseph Robinson: It's called the Real Remote, right?
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Maybe maybe it c it can say that. The Real Remote.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah just on the the m um the L_C_D_ display.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Welcome.
  Robert Rodgers: We can make
  Henry Jefferson: This
  Robert Rodgers: a
  Henry Jefferson: is
  Robert Rodgers: l
  Henry Jefferson: your
  Robert Rodgers: a logo.
  Henry Jefferson: Real Remote.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Like uh
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: put it like the shape.
  Alvin Jones: D designed by
  Robert Rodgers: Something like that.
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Robert Rodgers: I mean it's not too uh That's not their logo, is it?
  Alvin Jones: No. Do they have a lo Oh, the here. This i this is the logo.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah. It's
  Alvin Jones: Two
  Robert Rodgers: a
  Alvin Jones: R_s and a one.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah. You can just reuse that, because the name is the same.
  Joseph Robinson: You can copy
  Henry Jefferson: Initials.
  Joseph Robinson: and paste the picture if you want.
  Robert Rodgers: How Shall we do the logo in black or not?
  Henry Jefferson: Mm.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. What is that? Look more Looks more like a campfire.
  Robert Rodgers: Are you dissing my drawing? This one?
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: It looks like a ribbon.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Robert Rodgers: So who wants to draw? This is actually quite fun. Do we need to do anything? I hear you
  Alvin Jones: Are
  Robert Rodgers: people
  Alvin Jones: we uh ready?
  Robert Rodgers: are typing.
  Alvin Jones: Uh Or
  Joseph Robinson: Type in your report.
  Robert Rodgers: Oh, okay.
  Joseph Robinson: I don't see any new messages. So
  Henry Jefferson: Luckily.
  Joseph Robinson: Hmm? Luckily, yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Is this uh the last assignment? Or
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, it's uh
  Alvin Jones: Final
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: It's almost four.
  Joseph Robinson: What time do we have to deliver the report? Four o'clock or
  Robert Rodgers: At four, yeah,
  Joseph Robinson: Or before that?
  Henry Jefferson: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: Just
  Henry Jefferson: And
  Joseph Robinson: compare
  Henry Jefferson: copy this.
  Joseph Robinson: uh
  Henry Jefferson: Just a minute.
  Robert Rodgers: This is really bizarre.
  Henry Jefferson: It's
  Robert Rodgers: It looks like there's a It looks
  Alvin Jones: Um
  Robert Rodgers: like
  Alvin Jones: bug.
  Robert Rodgers: a butterfly.
  Alvin Jones: Bug.
  Henry Jefferson: It's somewhere I
  Alvin Jones: No
  Henry Jefferson: d
  Alvin Jones: it's
  Henry Jefferson: It
  Alvin Jones: in inside
  Henry Jefferson: isn't inside.
  Alvin Jones: the
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, and don't know how it's
  Joseph Robinson: No it's
  Henry Jefferson: or
  Joseph Robinson: on
  Henry Jefferson: eject
  Joseph Robinson: the on
  Henry Jefferson: it.
  Joseph Robinson: the beamer I guess.
  Alvin Jones: No it Oh.
  Robert Rodgers: No, but it
  Henry Jefferson: From
  Robert Rodgers: i
  Henry Jefferson: up there?
  Robert Rodgers: It's not a bu a beamer.
  Henry Jefferson: No.
  Robert Rodgers: B It's a normal T_V_ screen, kind of thing.
  Alvin Jones: Hey,
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah it's
  Alvin Jones: you've
  Henry Jefferson: somewhere
  Alvin Jones: got it
  Henry Jefferson: in
  Alvin Jones: uh
  Henry Jefferson: here.
  Alvin Jones: read only. So you have to uh
  Henry Jefferson: Save copy.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. Strange. This something what's projection
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: from behind, I guess.
  Alvin Jones: It's too uh
  Robert Rodgers: Oh. Yeah there is some kind of projection I think.
  Henry Jefferson: Yes.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah it it's a beamer, but then with
  Robert Rodgers: With
  Joseph Robinson: a within
  Robert Rodgers: a
  Joseph Robinson: a
  Robert Rodgers: with a mirror, huh?
  Joseph Robinson: mirror,
  Robert Rodgers: Or something.
  Joseph Robinson: yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: So it looks like a big screen, but in fact it isn't.
  Robert Rodgers: So are we gonna
  Alvin Jones: It
  Robert Rodgers: change
  Alvin Jones: is
  Robert Rodgers: anything to this? I mean is
  Joseph Robinson: Well
  Robert Rodgers: it gonna
  Joseph Robinson: it's it's
  Henry Jefferson: Well
  Joseph Robinson: single single
  Alvin Jones: It's
  Joseph Robinson: curved.
  Alvin Jones: now single curved. So
  Joseph Robinson: Th this
  Robert Rodgers: This
  Joseph Robinson: is
  Robert Rodgers: is
  Alvin Jones: It's
  Joseph Robinson: flat.
  Robert Rodgers: gonna be
  Alvin Jones: flat.
  Robert Rodgers: flat. Yeah
  Alvin Jones: Oh
  Robert Rodgers: exactly.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: no. Okay. It doesn't matter. It's
  Joseph Robinson: But it's
  Alvin Jones: it's
  Joseph Robinson: it's better to have in the front, this kind of shape, because it looks nice. I mean you see more of this than of that.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah, more like that.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah. And this is also gonna be
  Joseph Robinson: It's not very uh ideal.
  Robert Rodgers: Nope.
  Joseph Robinson: Do like this.
  Robert Rodgers: But sometimes then uh all of a sudden it does work.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. What's this?
  Alvin Jones: That's the detector uh for the
  Joseph Robinson: Ooh.
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: But
  Robert Rodgers: Maybe
  Joseph Robinson: I don't see a detector over there.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah. I don't know.
  Robert Rodgers: No it's I think you only need two points. Or not. No,
  Joseph Robinson: I
  Robert Rodgers: you sh
  Joseph Robinson: thought it was a kind of thing to put it on, and then draw right
  Alvin Jones: Maybe that's
  Joseph Robinson: lines
  Alvin Jones: why
  Joseph Robinson: or something.
  Alvin Jones: it's it's not working, because it's more
  Robert Rodgers: Slanted yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Or just messed it up.
  Robert Rodgers: Well maybe.
  Alvin Jones: Oh. Oh yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: it it matters for the aim of this
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: thing.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah but it wasn't good.
  Alvin Jones: You've to make it s uh ninety degrees.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah it it has to touch the corners, I guess. But th this one wasn't good, because if I was drawing here, I drew a line and then it came over here.
  Henry Jefferson: Um now you probably have to recalibrate.
  Alvin Jones: You have
  Henry Jefferson: Oh, five minutes to the end of the meeting.
  Joseph Robinson: Oh.
  Alvin Jones: Oh we're always
  Henry Jefferson: And
  Alvin Jones: long.
  Henry Jefferson: the recalibration is done using this icon here.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah,
  Joseph Robinson: Ooh.
  Alvin Jones: can we t can we get to that i Oh it's not working anymore.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah well I just
  Alvin Jones: Oh
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: yeah
  Joseph Robinson: yeah,
  Alvin Jones: yeah
  Joseph Robinson: it's
  Alvin Jones: yeah
  Joseph Robinson: it's
  Alvin Jones: yeah, it's
  Joseph Robinson: okay.
  Alvin Jones: it's working, it's working.
  Joseph Robinson: It's working again.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: It's better than before.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: We're improving uh Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: You go ahead.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: that's improved uh pretty much.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah it's only a bit like to
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: that side, but that is that one by the way.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah but
  Robert Rodgers: 'Cause
  Joseph Robinson: it's better,
  Alvin Jones: No it
  Joseph Robinson: it's
  Robert Rodgers: this
  Joseph Robinson: better
  Robert Rodgers: one makes the angle either like this. So i if I change this, it will go there,
  Joseph Robinson: Mm.
  Robert Rodgers: if I change that, will go there.
  Joseph Robinson: No. It's better than it was I guess.
  Robert Rodgers: Mm-hmm. I will take this away 'cause it looks messy.
  Joseph Robinson: Silly. Yeah. Works pretty well. Five minutes before the
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: meeting's over. And
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: then? We have
  Henry Jefferson: Then
  Joseph Robinson: to present
  Henry Jefferson: I have to uh uh write this, and I don't know if you have to present, because I didn't receive any information about that so far.
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Robert Rodgers: Maybe we will.
  Henry Jefferson: Maybe
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Henry Jefferson: we get
  Joseph Robinson: it
  Henry Jefferson: a
  Joseph Robinson: after
  Henry Jefferson: a final
  Joseph Robinson: the after
  Henry Jefferson: mail.
  Joseph Robinson: after these five minutes,
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: you have to
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah, I have still ten minutes
  Robert Rodgers: What's
  Henry Jefferson: to finish
  Robert Rodgers: this anyway?
  Henry Jefferson: the report.
  Alvin Jones: So
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Alvin Jones: cake.
  Joseph Robinson: After after that five minutes,
  Robert Rodgers: It
  Joseph Robinson: you have
  Robert Rodgers: looks
  Joseph Robinson: ten
  Robert Rodgers: like
  Joseph Robinson: minutes
  Robert Rodgers: candle
  Joseph Robinson: to finish
  Robert Rodgers: wax.
  Joseph Robinson: it, or
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Alright. And we uh
  Henry Jefferson: And you can uh just uh relax and uh have cup of coffee
  Joseph Robinson: Right.
  Henry Jefferson: or
  Joseph Robinson: Chill.
  Henry Jefferson: oh no, they don't have beer here so
  Joseph Robinson: Huh.
  Henry Jefferson: you can't celebrate. You can just if you ma finish my presentation please. Uh
  Joseph Robinson: Uh
  Henry Jefferson: over there.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah?
  Henry Jefferson: The presentation is still open. So if you finish that then you'll see uh Yeah next.
  Joseph Robinson: Next slide.
  Henry Jefferson: Oh yeah, we have to do the project uh evaluation. Just uh do that quickly.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah?
  Henry Jefferson: Uh
  Joseph Robinson: How do you do it?
  Henry Jefferson: Uh well basically what that says, we discuss it and um So
  Joseph Robinson: Alright.
  Henry Jefferson: how were did the project process uh go? Did you, were you all pleased with the process as it was? Or
  Robert Rodgers: Uh
  Henry Jefferson: are there
  Robert Rodgers: th
  Henry Jefferson: uh
  Robert Rodgers: uh do you mean the the interaction between
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Robert Rodgers: us?
  Henry Jefferson: the interaction
  Robert Rodgers: Or
  Henry Jefferson: and the steps we followed, and and so forth.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah well at first I was really stressed. Because
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: it went a bit fast. But then as I knew the tempo that I had to be on, the second time I think I did a bit better.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: And the third time yeah, I
  Joseph Robinson: And
  Robert Rodgers: mean
  Joseph Robinson: we move
  Alvin Jones: No.
  Joseph Robinson: more to to working together as team, because
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: at first you you make your individual contribution, and then come here, and you have no idea what the
  Alvin Jones: No.
  Joseph Robinson: others have to make.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah, yeah yeah
  Joseph Robinson: And then
  Robert Rodgers: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: finally you have some idea, okay this is gonna w this is what we gonna make together and okay I will arrange this and
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: you will arrange that, and you have a k a kind of idea what you can expect on the next half hour when you have to work on your own. So The
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: process,
  Robert Rodgers: we
  Joseph Robinson: I mean, the interaction between us became better and better
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: I guess.
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Alvin Jones: Especially
  Robert Rodgers: Mm-hmm.
  Alvin Jones: after the first meeting.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah,
  Alvin Jones: And
  Joseph Robinson: especially if f f if you see uh you se you saw the largest difference from the first to the second
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: meeting
  Robert Rodgers: Definitely.
  Joseph Robinson: I guess.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay and was that due to my leadership?
  Alvin Jones: Yeah yeah yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Well you did become more assertive the the second time round, so that
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah?
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: That okay?
  Robert Rodgers: You were more in charge kind of thing.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay. Um was there uh enough room for creativity?
  Robert Rodgers: I guess so.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah but
  Robert Rodgers: I mean
  Alvin Jones: only the the financial parts uh
  Joseph Robinson: Li Limiteded
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: afterwards, but If if you don't take that into account, there's plenty
  Robert Rodgers: I
  Joseph Robinson: of room for creativ creativity. Also not only the drawing and the the making of the thing itself, but also in explaining it to the other people, by means of uh
  Robert Rodgers: We were pretty democratic.
  Joseph Robinson: the the board and uh PowerPoint and Word and stuff like
  Henry Jefferson: So
  Joseph Robinson: that.
  Henry Jefferson: and the uh about the board digital pen? Uh was that
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: helpful or
  Joseph Robinson: Mm
  Henry Jefferson: Ooh.
  Joseph Robinson: uh I think in in essence the digital pen is better than the SMARTboard. Because it it it just works better. I
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: mean uh uh
  Henry Jefferson: it
  Joseph Robinson: I've
  Henry Jefferson: works.
  Joseph Robinson: made yeah, uh I've made several notes just to test it, and and just put the pen in into it, and then it came onto my screen and it looked perfectly.
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: So
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Robinson: it it's better a better device than uh than the screen.
  Robert Rodgers: Maybe Yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: But the screen is useful, in essence, but it doesn't work that well.
  Robert Rodgers: It's uh it's The the pen is more intuitive, 'cause we're all used to writing
  Henry Jefferson: Use
  Robert Rodgers: with
  Henry Jefferson: the
  Robert Rodgers: pen.
  Henry Jefferson: pen.
  Robert Rodgers: And uh as I said, uh I uh have no idea how PowerPoint works, so will take Joseph Robinson half a day to be able to make a normal PowerPoint presentation.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: But once I get to know the program probably, I mean, it looks better, you know. Or uh something like that. You can give it a kind of a home style, like we have i the the logo and everything.
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: And
  Joseph Robinson: Yep.
  Robert Rodgers: I don't know.
  Henry Jefferson: Blink. Oh.
  Joseph Robinson: Warning. Finish
  Alvin Jones: Finish
  Joseph Robinson: meeting
  Alvin Jones: meeting.
  Joseph Robinson: now.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay, are are there any new ideas about this? All I think I
  Joseph Robinson: Well,
  Henry Jefferson: didn't
  Joseph Robinson: it
  Henry Jefferson: really receive,
  Joseph Robinson: It's use
  Henry Jefferson: yeah.
  Joseph Robinson: especially useful, I guess, to to evaluate designs and graph graphical stuff.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh uh
  Joseph Robinson: And and
  Henry Jefferson: w uh S sorry uh
  Joseph Robinson: the screen and stuff like that.
  Henry Jefferson: Mm-hmm.
  Alvin Jones: I think the PowerPoint is is too limited. You can't uh draw easy in in PowerPoint. It has to be uh yeah. The drawing board has to be integrated into PowerPoint, so that you can just easily
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah the the the problem with PowerPoint for Joseph Robinson is that you have to i put in the pre-made chunks c as
  Alvin Jones: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: well. You
  Henry Jefferson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: know, you can draw something on
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Robert Rodgers: the sketch-board and then take it there, or whatever.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. But it it's useful to to show something to to
  Alvin Jones: Yeah
  Joseph Robinson: an
  Alvin Jones: just
  Joseph Robinson: a small
  Alvin Jones: for text,
  Joseph Robinson: audience, and
  Alvin Jones: for
  Joseph Robinson: then
  Alvin Jones: text
  Joseph Robinson: to
  Alvin Jones: it's uh it's okay. But
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah. These these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things. So Yes.
  Henry Jefferson: Oh.
  Joseph Robinson: Check your email.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh we should uh enter our questionnaire.
  Joseph Robinson: You also.
  Alvin Jones: 'Kay.
  Henry Jefferson: Ah. Woah.
  Robert Rodgers: Alright.
  Joseph Robinson: Right.
  Henry Jefferson: Okay.
  Alvin Jones: Okay.
  Henry Jefferson: Uh okay.
  Robert Rodgers: Alright.
  Joseph Robinson: Yes boss.
  Robert Rodgers: Well,
  Henry Jefferson: That's
  Robert Rodgers: s
  Henry Jefferson: the management.
  Robert Rodgers: see you in a second huh?
  Joseph Robinson: Well see you soon.
  Alvin Jones: Oh. Okay.
  Henry Jefferson: Hope so.
  Joseph Robinson: Yeah.
  Henry Jefferson: Um
  Robert Rodgers: Yeah we have to pull it this way, huh? Wait.
Updated Content: Henry Jefferson decided to start by looking at costs instead of the prototype presentation because the original design was too expensive and had to be changed. The group discussed which features should be dropped. The group decided that the LCD screen was integral to their design, but dropped the speech recognition. They decided to drop all the buttons in favour of an integrated scroll push-button, and to use a hand dynamo instead of kinetic energy as a power source. Joseph Robinson led the prototype evaluation, based on the new design. The group were satisfied with the overall score of 3.1. Robert Rodgers and user interface designer worked on a drawing of the new design, while Henry Jefferson and marketing manager worked on the final report. Henry Jefferson led an evaluation of the project process. The group thought that they worked well together, especially after the first meeting. They were happy with the room for creativity, but thought they were limited by the budget. They preferred the digital pens to the SMARTboard.  They had mixed feelings about using PowerPoint.