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  Joseph Scott: Mm.
  Jeffery Towner: it was function F_ eight or something. This one right
  Joseph Scott: Tha
  Jeffery Towner: there.
  Joseph Scott: Okay.
  Jeffery Towner: Okay.
  Joseph Scott: Who is gonna do a presentation
  Jeffery Towner: Think we all Huh.
  Joseph Scott: You will as well?
  Jeffery Towner: Oh I thought we all were. Yeah, I have
  Joseph Scott: Okay.
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  Joseph Scott: Yep.
  Jeffery Towner: Whoops I forgot to put the thing on
  Frank Vandeusen: Right. I just wanna 'cause basically I can't re I've really crap at remembering everyone's name so I just wanna rather than going uh Miss Marketing and Miss this and Miss that
  Jeffery Towner: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: wanted to know your names again.
  Joseph Scott: Okay I'm
  Frank Vandeusen: just gonna leave this up here 'cause
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: I'll
  Joseph Scott: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: you know.
  Jeffery Towner: Sure, that's a good idea.
  Frank Vandeusen: So
  Joseph Scott: I'm Catherine with a C_. C_A_T_H_ E_R_ I_N_E_.
  Frank Vandeusen: Okay, and
  Jeffery Towner: Uh Gabriel.
  Frank Vandeusen: Gabriel. E_L_ is
  Jeffery Towner: E_L_.
  Frank Vandeusen: it? 'Kay. And you're
  Jonathan Courtney: I
  Frank Vandeusen: s
  Jonathan Courtney: am Reissa. R_E_I_S_S_A_.
  Frank Vandeusen: r
  Jonathan Courtney: Double S_ yeah yeah. Sorry.
  Frank Vandeusen: R_E_I_S_S_ Okay. 'S just a bit nicer calling people by their names I think
  Joseph Scott: Right. True.
  Frank Vandeusen: Uh. right.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm 'kay.
  Frank Vandeusen: Okay, right, welcome to meeting B_. Um this is gonna go a lot better than the last meeting, basically, uh 'cause I know what I'm supposed to be doing now. I am your Project Manager, and, uh yeah, I'm just here to sort of liaise between the three of you and get things going, get people talking and and I'm gonna be making notes and sending them off to the powers that be and stuff basically. Um right, this for the purposes of this meeting what this meeting is all about is um I'm gonna have some presentations from all three of you, what you've been working on for the last wee while, when you haven't been getting hit with spam on your computers and and, you know, filling out silly questionnaires and things. But hopefully you've been actually been doing something productive. So we're gonna each of you gonna give us a litt a little presentation.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: Um. Then we're gonna work, you know, from each of your presentations. We'll we'll uh talk about what we actually need as a final coming together of it all. Um and then we'll, yeah, we'll sort of conclude anything else comes up at the end of it.
  Joseph Scott: How long is the meeting?
  Frank Vandeusen: This meeting it's not very long. It's uh probably down to about thirty five minutes now.
  Joseph Scott: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: So I want each of your presentations to not be too long, five
  Joseph Scott: No problem.
  Frank Vandeusen: five minutes, something like that. Um if you haven't done a PowerPoint thingy, it doesn't matter, it it just it just says that you it's that's just one particular medium. If you haven't had time to prepare one, you can draw stuff on the noteboard, you can talk to us, you can you know however you want to do your little presentation, basically, you can. Don't feel pressurised into using this thing. 'Cause I don't. Uh okay. So um. You okay over there? Reissa,
  Jonathan Courtney: I'm fine. Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: are you uh b are you joining in with this meeting here
  Jonathan Courtney: I uh yeah, yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: Think she's
  Frank Vandeusen: or are y or
  Jeffery Towner: finishing
  Jonathan Courtney: D
  Frank Vandeusen: are
  Jonathan Courtney: I mean,
  Frank Vandeusen: y or are
  Jonathan Courtney: I
  Jeffery Towner: up
  Jonathan Courtney: I'm
  Jeffery Towner: her
  Frank Vandeusen: you
  Jeffery Towner: presentation.
  Jonathan Courtney: finishing
  Frank Vandeusen: are you just
  Jonathan Courtney: off my
  Frank Vandeusen: are you
  Jonathan Courtney: presentation.
  Frank Vandeusen: just uh doing some Internet shopping there?
  Jonathan Courtney: No no. Uh I'm done. Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: Okay, jolly good. Alright, let's have um well, we all know that it's it's a remote control that we're gonna be dealing with. I
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: think the first thing we should look at is um probably the um what it is that it is actually supposed to be. So that's gonna be you Catherine,
  Joseph Scott: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: if we wanna hear from you first.
  Joseph Scott: Okay. Um just connecting this.
  Joseph Scott: Are we
  Frank Vandeusen: You
  Joseph Scott: getting
  Frank Vandeusen: don't have to
  Joseph Scott: i
  Frank Vandeusen: worry about screwing it in just
  Joseph Scott: Really? Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: there you go.
  Joseph Scott: Cool. Okay. So I've got a very quick uh Uh. Okay. so um I've oh no, you can't see a thing. Oh well, I'm gonna draw it on the board then. It's
  Jeffery Towner: Oh.
  Joseph Scott: in blue uh, and I couldn't change it. We
  Frank Vandeusen: Ah.
  Joseph Scott: it's fine on my screen, but never mind. So um the idea is that we've got the energy source um, which in our case will pr, oh well okay, never mind. So um I think maybe uh two batteries, I dunno what they're called six, or something like
  Frank Vandeusen: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Scott: that. Uh and then um then on the uh remote control itself will have um the sender for the signal, which could be uh an infra-red signal, um which will be sent by an electronic chip. And uh the chip will be controlled by the user interface. So we'll hear about that later from Gabriel.
  Frank Vandeusen: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Scott: And uh the sender will send to the telly itself an infra-red signal to tell it to switch on or switch channels. Um and that's it really for the working design.
  Frank Vandeusen: Great. Okay.
  Joseph Scott: Sorry the presentation wasn't very uh clear
  Frank Vandeusen: I prefer
  Joseph Scott: but
  Frank Vandeusen: the pe I prefer the human
  Joseph Scott: Really?
  Frank Vandeusen: touch personally.
  Joseph Scott: Cool.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Joseph Scott: Um, should I erase this
  Frank Vandeusen: Do you wanna
  Joseph Scott: or
  Frank Vandeusen: just give us a moment, I just
  Joseph Scott: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: wanna copy this down. Um
  Joseph Scott: Fine.
  Frank Vandeusen: I dunno if you guys have got any questions for Catherine on any of this?
  Joseph Scott: Or suggestions?
  Jonathan Courtney: Is a battery like the only way of
  Joseph Scott: Well, it's just, you don't want it plugged in really, s
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah, alternate energy source, like win wind power or
  Jonathan Courtney: No,
  Joseph Scott: In
  Jonathan Courtney: no
  Joseph Scott: indoors.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah,
  Jonathan Courtney: No
  Frank Vandeusen: you
  Jonathan Courtney: I meant
  Frank Vandeusen: blow
  Jonathan Courtney: like
  Frank Vandeusen: on it and i
  Jonathan Courtney: No 'cause like cha
  Jeffery Towner: Bicycle
  Jonathan Courtney: 'cause
  Jeffery Towner: power.
  Jonathan Courtney: always changing um um batteries can get like annoying. The battery's down and maybe, I dunno,
  Joseph Scott: I dunno, swi
  Jonathan Courtney: solar
  Joseph Scott: I
  Jonathan Courtney: charged?
  Joseph Scott: th I th I think changing your batteries once every six months is not really a pain, but
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah, it's
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: worked for the last fifty
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: years you know.
  Jeffery Towner: One question I have, and I don't know how much control we have over this is um, as far as the infra-red signal, do we have control over, you know, how far away you can be from the receiving unit, the the T_V_, and still have it be operational? I mean, maybe we want one with a strong signal stream.
  Frank Vandeusen: How far away is your television?
  Joseph Scott: Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: It's
  Jeffery Towner: Uh
  Frank Vandeusen: never gonna be more than
  Joseph Scott: Well, the thing
  Frank Vandeusen: it's
  Joseph Scott: is
  Frank Vandeusen: never
  Joseph Scott: uh
  Frank Vandeusen: gonna be,
  Joseph Scott: you
  Frank Vandeusen: you
  Joseph Scott: you
  Frank Vandeusen: kno
  Joseph Scott: don't
  Frank Vandeusen: unless you've got a T_V_ the size of a football pitch, it's not doesn't have to go that far, does it? Doesn't have to go through a wall, because you're not gonna be looking through a wall.
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah,
  Jeffery Towner: That's
  Jonathan Courtney: but if
  Jeffery Towner: true.
  Jonathan Courtney: like you're on the phone in the other room and you need turn television off or something and you don't really want to go into the put the telephone down, and go into the other room.
  Joseph Scott: Well, we can make the the signal strong enough to go through walls if if you fancy it. I didn't think about that
  Jonathan Courtney: How about
  Joseph Scott: but
  Jonathan Courtney: Bluetooth? Instead of using infra-red, use Bluetooth.
  Joseph Scott: Why not?
  Jonathan Courtney: Isn't
  Joseph Scott: I just
  Jonathan Courtney: that a better
  Joseph Scott: think
  Jonathan Courtney: signal?
  Joseph Scott: that it's it's gonna cost more and
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah,
  Joseph Scott: I'm
  Frank Vandeusen: yeah
  Joseph Scott: I'm
  Frank Vandeusen: I
  Joseph Scott: not
  Frank Vandeusen: d it
  Joseph Scott: sure
  Frank Vandeusen: sounds
  Joseph Scott: it's
  Frank Vandeusen: like you
  Joseph Scott: you're gonna use
  Frank Vandeusen: you w
  Joseph Scott: it.
  Frank Vandeusen: don't wanna overcomplicate things.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: You know we don't need
  Joseph Scott: It's a
  Frank Vandeusen: it.
  Joseph Scott: fancy idea uh it's quite nice, but then I don't th I dunno, either you if you wanna watch the telly you're in the room, you are gonna
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah, exactly. Basically,
  Joseph Scott: But
  Frank Vandeusen: we're we're desi we're designing and marketing a television remote control unit. We're not w w w w designing something that you can plug in a headset to and and you know connect to your laptop computer and stuff. It's uh
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Joseph Scott: Oh, we can we can keep the idea if you i We can see
  Jonathan Courtney: 'S just an
  Joseph Scott: at
  Jonathan Courtney: idea.
  Joseph Scott: a later stage, maybe, I don't
  Frank Vandeusen: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: Right, well done, Catherine. Um Gab Gabriel let's
  Jeffery Towner: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: uh let's hear from you on on on
  Joseph Scott: Do you need the border?
  Frank Vandeusen: such
  Jeffery Towner: Uh
  Frank Vandeusen: things.
  Jeffery Towner: I'm just gonna use the PowerPoint
  Joseph Scott: Okay.
  Jeffery Towner: uh.
  Joseph Scott: Sorry.
  Jeffery Towner: Technical. Okay.
  Jonathan Courtney: Adjusting.
  Jeffery Towner: Okay, so, while this is warming up, there it is
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: uh. So I'm doing the user interface design.
  Frank Vandeusen: Mm-hmm.
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah, and basically uh, as far as methods, I was I was looking looking at looking at uh already existing remotes, trying to find some inspiration from designs that are already out there. Thinking of what we can retain, what we can do away with, uh what we what we can perfect a little bit as far as design um. we don't want to do something that's too radical of a change, I guess, I mean people want a remote that's familiar, that has their favourite functionalities um and and does the basics,
  Frank Vandeusen: Mm yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: but Um so we can improve what's out there and maintain that, the basic functionality that people want. Um so things that seem like absolute must-haves uh would be a volume control, um so up-down keys for that, uh channel keys up-down, but then also a numerical key pad so that they can just key directly to the channel that they want, rather than doing up-down, and uh a mute button. Uh one thing that I didn't include here, that I forgot that we talked about last time, was doing um some sort of lock uh function. Uh,
  Frank Vandeusen: Okay.
  Jeffery Towner: I don't I dunno, uh that's one possibility. And so in the research that I was doing there's basically two types of remotes, ones that are engineering centred and ones that are more user centred, which I don't know if I can access the web page from here, but I can show you uh. Yeah. So this is a engineer centred one, so you see it's rather busy, but it also lets you play your movie, stop your movie, fast-forward, all this,
  Frank Vandeusen: Mm-hmm.
  Jeffery Towner: um freeze frame. Uh and this is a user centred one. Uh it's
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: it's easier to g just glance at this and see what's possible to do, you're not gonna be staring at it for five minutes.
  Frank Vandeusen: Great.
  Jeffery Towner: And I judging from what what we all talked about during our last meeting I kind of gathered that that's what we were going after, uh or the direction we were going in at least. Um. So, the engineering centred ones uh provide a lot of functionality, but it can be a little bit overwhelming, so the user centred ones just focus on ease of use. Uh and this sort of overlaps with what the marketing person uh, Reissa, because
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Jeffery Towner: uh we we need to find out what what people want before we make firm decisions
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: on this. So uh, yeah, that's Jonathan Courtney.
  Frank Vandeusen: Great. Okay. Now that's I just have a q a q question for you. This w um research that you've been doing looki looking at other, you know, existing units stuff. Um have you found that anyone else has do has looked into the locking function
  Jeffery Towner: No that
  Frank Vandeusen: or
  Jeffery Towner: that that seemed like a novel idea as f as far as I know. I mean obviously another exists like you like you said in in mobile phones.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: That was sort of the inspiration for it. Um I've never seen that with in in all my years in in
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: the remote business. I've, haven't I've never seen a locking functionality. I dunno, what uh do you guys have a a yea or nay on that a feeling about whether that's really necessary?
  Frank Vandeusen: Um I would say it's If it's simple to do, which I think it probably should be,
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: even if it's a physical, you know, a f a like a f a physical switch or a physical cover for the remote,
  Jeffery Towner: Mm-hmm.
  Frank Vandeusen: even something like that,
  Jeffery Towner: 'Kay.
  Frank Vandeusen: um then yes, it's like, you know, like s you said earlier on ab ab ab a flip thing,
  Jeffery Towner: Right.
  Frank Vandeusen: something like that, being physical. Look into. Um I've had word down from head office that something that we should be centred well, something we should take into account is um we've gotta keep the corporate image within this remote control unit. It's gotta d look like it's in the R_ and R_.
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: You know, the the company it's it's, from what I can see from our other products, are yellow with blue writing on them.
  Jeffery Towner: Right.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: Um.
  Jeffery Towner: And our motto is is we put the fashion
  Frank Vandeusen: We put
  Jeffery Towner: in
  Frank Vandeusen: the
  Jeffery Towner: electronics.
  Frank Vandeusen: fashion in electronics.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Jeffery Towner: I
  Frank Vandeusen: There
  Jeffery Towner: think
  Frank Vandeusen: you go.
  Jeffery Towner: I think we have to carry that mental.
  Frank Vandeusen: So it's kinda gotta look it's gotta look new and s you know something fashionable. If
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: if remote control well, if telephones can be fashionable, then maybe remote control units can be.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Jeffery Towner: Well yeah these, I think, we can so we talked about the layout in my presentation and what I didn't mention yet really is is the sort of like the ergonomic
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: design.
  Frank Vandeusen: Because we
  Jeffery Towner: I t
  Frank Vandeusen: need
  Jeffery Towner: I think we can make big improvements over these two that you see here, I mean.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: Uh,
  Frank Vandeusen: Great.
  Jeffery Towner: everything is going t ergonomic, you know, there's you know mice for your computers that are very ergonomic and keyboards and that could be one of our niches p sort of uh uh in the market, I guess.
  Frank Vandeusen: Okay,
  Jeffery Towner: Um.
  Frank Vandeusen: fantastic. Right,
  Jonathan Courtney: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: well done, Gabriel. Um Reissa.
  Jonathan Courtney: Where does it go
  Frank Vandeusen: Let's
  Jonathan Courtney: into?
  Frank Vandeusen: plug you in, baby.
  Jonathan Courtney: Here?
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah.
  Jonathan Courtney: The blue thing.
  Jeffery Towner: Uh, yeah, this is getting all. Mm. Yeah, then you just have to do function F_ eight and it should come up.
  Jonathan Courtney: Well, function F_ eight. No
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah,
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah,
  Frank Vandeusen: w it
  Jeffery Towner: it just takes
  Frank Vandeusen: it just
  Jeffery Towner: a second
  Jonathan Courtney: oh.
  Frank Vandeusen: takes a wee while.
  Jeffery Towner: uh.
  Jonathan Courtney: Come on. Right. Okay. Okay. Well, for our marketing report uh we observed remote control users in a usability lab, and also gave so this is research and we also gave participants um questionnaires to fill out. Um total number of people tested were a hundred just so you know, so that hundred people were tested and these were the findings. So seventy five per cent of users find the remote control ugly. Okay, so they don't like the look of the remote control. Um eighty f eighty per cent of them would spend more money if the rem remote control looked really cool and fancy. So I think we all agree with that. Um current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user. So, they don't like like the way they operate it doesn't like match how people behave. Um per cent of the users say that they only use ten per cent of the buttons on a remote, so probably if you have like one, two, three, four, five, the whole up to z ten, they probably don't use those, they only use the up and down channel.
  Frank Vandeusen: 'Cause we've only got five channels.
  Jonathan Courtney: exactly. That's another thing. Um seventy five per cent of users say they zap. Not quite sure what they mean, zap, goes like.
  Frank Vandeusen: I think that's k flicking quickly between channels.
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah, you
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: wanna navigate the channels quickly
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: I guess.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm. Um takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. I think especially for uh the older generation. I know my grandmother doesn't like mobile phones, takes ages to work how to use. Anyway um and they also remotes often get lost in the room, so nobody can find them.
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Jonathan Courtney: So maybe tracking devices is a good idea. Um personal preferences.
  Frank Vandeusen: Wow. You are a child of technology, aren't you?
  Jonathan Courtney: Um so yeah um I was thinking something easy to use, especially for older people. Um has to look really cool, flashy groovy for people to buy it. And it's easy to find, so I don't know whether maybe and also we asked them whether they wanted whether they'd be interested in um voice activating. So voice activation. So and this was what we came up with. Then if you look fifteen to twenty five this is age, sorry, age groups. So fifteen to twenty five said like ninety two ninety one per cent of them
  Frank Vandeusen: So
  Jonathan Courtney: said
  Frank Vandeusen: there
  Jonathan Courtney: yes.
  Frank Vandeusen: you go, yeah.
  Jonathan Courtney: Um so basically the majority except for the forty five to fifty five year olds for some reason didn't want a voice activated one. And neither did the older generation, but the younger generation who we are catering for, like who have most of the money nowadays, do want a voice act speech recognition
  Frank Vandeusen: Uh but do the younger
  Jonathan Courtney: in a remote.
  Frank Vandeusen: generation have the money?
  Jeffery Towner: No I would I
  Frank Vandeusen: They
  Jeffery Towner: would
  Frank Vandeusen: they
  Jeffery Towner: say the
  Frank Vandeusen: don't.
  Jeffery Towner: older
  Frank Vandeusen: It's
  Jeffery Towner: the older
  Frank Vandeusen: older
  Jeffery Towner: people,
  Frank Vandeusen: generation, they're the ones
  Jonathan Courtney: Well
  Frank Vandeusen: that have gone
  Jonathan Courtney: the
  Jeffery Towner: yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: out
  Jonathan Courtney: twenty
  Frank Vandeusen: and
  Jonathan Courtney: five to thirty five year old, and thirty five, and the thirty five to forty five, forty five point seven per cent
  Frank Vandeusen: People
  Jonathan Courtney: say no, so
  Frank Vandeusen: people from the age of thirty f there's a big drop off there. For people up to the age of thirty five, you're kinda saying, yeah, they want it. Um but no they're not sort of most people that have the money are people from the age of thirty five to fifty five,
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah, that would be my guess as
  Frank Vandeusen: uh
  Jeffery Towner: well.
  Frank Vandeusen: 'cause they're the ones
  Jonathan Courtney: So
  Frank Vandeusen: that
  Jonathan Courtney: they
  Frank Vandeusen: have
  Jonathan Courtney: don't
  Frank Vandeusen: been working for twenty years. Um d
  Jonathan Courtney: Well
  Frank Vandeusen: and tha and that's a that's quite a minority there, so yeah, it's not even like fifty fifty that's th thirty five per cent.
  Jonathan Courtney: These guys are growing up.
  Jeffery Towner: about just from the the prospective of our manufacturing cost? I mean if if it's twelve fifty per unit.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: I mean, okay, there's
  Jonathan Courtney: Voice activation might not be the best.
  Frank Vandeusen: I would say scra
  Jeffery Towner: Uh.
  Frank Vandeusen: I'd say scrap that straight off.
  Jonathan Courtney: Um also with um with buttons, a thing called R_S_I_, so wrist sense
  Jeffery Towner: Repetitive strain uh
  Jonathan Courtney: Huh?
  Jeffery Towner: rep repetitive strain injury
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah,
  Jeffery Towner: or like
  Jonathan Courtney: repetitive
  Jeffery Towner: from doing
  Jonathan Courtney: strains injury, so they don't I think people who watch T_V_ maybe too often, keep changing channel hurts their wrist. I
  Joseph Scott: Well
  Jonathan Courtney: don't think
  Joseph Scott: maybe they shouldn't watch
  Frank Vandeusen: So
  Jonathan Courtney: so.
  Joseph Scott: so
  Frank Vandeusen: y
  Joseph Scott: much
  Frank Vandeusen: so
  Joseph Scott: T_V_
  Frank Vandeusen: it's so
  Joseph Scott: then.
  Frank Vandeusen: it's so you got so that's something we should have a look into then
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah
  Frank Vandeusen: i when
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Jonathan Courtney: maybe
  Frank Vandeusen: desi
  Jonathan Courtney: not
  Frank Vandeusen: when
  Jonathan Courtney: so hard.
  Frank Vandeusen: designing the ergonomics of see
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: have a look if um there's any w any medical
  Joseph Scott: Maybe
  Frank Vandeusen: background
  Joseph Scott: it could
  Frank Vandeusen: we
  Joseph Scott: be,
  Frank Vandeusen: can
  Joseph Scott: instead
  Frank Vandeusen: find
  Joseph Scott: of
  Frank Vandeusen: out about
  Joseph Scott: pressing
  Frank Vandeusen: this.
  Joseph Scott: button it could be just touching a
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: Let's
  Jonathan Courtney: Maybe
  Frank Vandeusen: jus we just want need to cover our arses so that people aren't gonna sue us in ten years' time, say your remote control gave Jonathan Courtney repetitive strain injury.
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah, we
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Jeffery Towner: should probably consult with our legal department uh.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah. They're having a lunch break at the moment, but yeah.
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: I'll see if I
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: can get see if I can get hold of them for the next meeting.
  Jeffery Towner: I think we can do some really in in that department, the the ergonomic department,
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: we can make some some really good improvements.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm. Maybe th the buttons not so high up so you don't have to press so much,
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Jonathan Courtney: or we just like flat buttons, something. Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: Okay.
  Jonathan Courtney: So that is Jonathan Courtney.
  Frank Vandeusen: That's great, thank you very much for that, Reissa. Um okay, so we've basically we've decide we've d we've decided that it's gonna be, you know uh, we're going for a basic television remote. It's gotta be safe to use, it's gotta look cool.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: It's gotta be cheap. S um.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: Now going back to the uh industrial design of it, you know, we were looking at whether to use maybe infra-red or Bluetooth. I think, we should just go with the simplest option on everything, uh and that would be infra-red, energy source, that would be batteries. Uh mean we we can look into using the s, you know, the little tiny weeny batteries, all like special long-lasting batteries. Um. But a in there's no I don't think there's any point in making a remote control unit that's gonna last for fifty years, because technology will have changed and, you know, we won't have televisions in ten years' time. So
  Joseph Scott: Yep.
  Frank Vandeusen: I think we're all um pretty sussed on that. Um anyone have any questions?
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: Everybody happy in their work?
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah, it seems like we're all on the pretty much on the same page.
  Frank Vandeusen: Now this is good, we've got a good structure going on. We all know where we're going to. Have you been ge has have any of you lot been getting loads of crap spam on your computers?
  Jeffery Towner: Oh it's probably just you, 'cause you're Frank Vandeusen.
  Jonathan Courtney: Well, just questionnaires.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: Sell trying to sell your things.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah, stuff. Um okay. Do oh have you guys found out if we can if we can e-mail stuff to each other?
  Jonathan Courtney: Yeah, you can.
  Frank Vandeusen: Right.
  Jeffery Towner: Okay.
  Frank Vandeusen: Do all you all know my e-mail address?
  Jeffery Towner: No I don't.
  Jonathan Courtney: I
  Joseph Scott: Well,
  Jeffery Towner: I
  Jonathan Courtney: think he's participant
  Joseph Scott: in the project
  Jonathan Courtney: one,
  Joseph Scott: announcement,
  Jonathan Courtney: aren't you?
  Joseph Scott: you've got the addresses, I think.
  Jeffery Towner: Uh
  Joseph Scott: So Project Manager, it's
  Jeffery Towner: Oh, it's
  Joseph Scott: participant
  Jeffery Towner: just participant
  Joseph Scott: one
  Jeffery Towner: one
  Joseph Scott: at
  Jeffery Towner: oh okay. Yeah.
  Frank Vandeusen: Can
  Joseph Scott: A_M_I_.
  Frank Vandeusen: you all d e-mail Jonathan Courtney your e-mail addresses?
  Jeffery Towner: Well it's just
  Joseph Scott: You have
  Jeffery Towner: w
  Joseph Scott: them
  Jeffery Towner: it's
  Joseph Scott: i
  Jeffery Towner: just it's just
  Joseph Scott: you have them,
  Jeffery Towner: par participant
  Joseph Scott: but
  Jeffery Towner: one,
  Joseph Scott: we'll
  Jeffery Towner: participant
  Joseph Scott: send you
  Jeffery Towner: two.
  Joseph Scott: an e-mail.
  Frank Vandeusen: Send
  Joseph Scott: You want
  Frank Vandeusen: Jonathan Courtney, yeah
  Joseph Scott: to have friends, don't you?
  Frank Vandeusen: yeah, okay.
  Jeffery Towner: So are we headed towards like a b a big yellow and black remote as far as maybe that's our next meeting
  Frank Vandeusen: Is
  Jeffery Towner: that
  Frank Vandeusen: it
  Jeffery Towner: we
  Frank Vandeusen: yellow
  Jeffery Towner: discuss
  Frank Vandeusen: and black
  Jeffery Towner: that.
  Frank Vandeusen: or is it yellow and blue? I I kind of thought it was blue writing on a yellow background, but I might be just going
  Jeffery Towner: Well,
  Frank Vandeusen: a bit
  Jeffery Towner: it's like white on i white and blue on a black background with white with yellow borders.
  Frank Vandeusen: Okay.
  Jeffery Towner: Maybe that's
  Frank Vandeusen: Well,
  Jeffery Towner: like getting ahead of ourselves.
  Joseph Scott: It wouldn't
  Frank Vandeusen: maybe
  Joseph Scott: be
  Frank Vandeusen: you can come up with a few with a couple of different
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: ideas?
  Jonathan Courtney: Can't we have different colours in the remotes, so somebody can choose different col like does
  Frank Vandeusen: Well,
  Jonathan Courtney: it have
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: see the
  Jonathan Courtney: to be
  Frank Vandeusen: thing
  Jonathan Courtney: of a certain?
  Frank Vandeusen: is is we've gotta keep the company image. It's gotta say people have gotta look at this remote control and instantly recognise that it's a Real Reaction
  Jonathan Courtney: But if
  Frank Vandeusen: i
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Jonathan Courtney: it's
  Frank Vandeusen: product.
  Jonathan Courtney: a R_R_, it would be Real Reaction, like if it had
  Frank Vandeusen: There's
  Jonathan Courtney: a symbol
  Frank Vandeusen: loads
  Jonathan Courtney: on
  Frank Vandeusen: of
  Jonathan Courtney: it.
  Frank Vandeusen: companies that
  Jeffery Towner: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: called R_R_. This is slog but this is the slogan, this is the the the
  Jeffery Towner: And
  Frank Vandeusen: the
  Jeffery Towner: this
  Frank Vandeusen: type.
  Jeffery Towner: is something that came on down from from the higher ups,
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Jeffery Towner: so, I mean, we are sort of beholden to them.
  Jonathan Courtney: So we have to have it one colour.
  Frank Vandeusen: Well, not necessarily.
  Jeffery Towner: Not one colour, but the
  Frank Vandeusen: But
  Jeffery Towner: pattern
  Frank Vandeusen: we have to
  Jeffery Towner: needs
  Frank Vandeusen: incorporate
  Jeffery Towner: to be recognisable.
  Frank Vandeusen: it.
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: Not necessarily even if i it just has to ye but you have to look at the product and instantly know that it's one of
  Joseph Scott: Well
  Frank Vandeusen: our
  Joseph Scott: you
  Frank Vandeusen: products
  Joseph Scott: could
  Frank Vandeusen: as
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Frank Vandeusen: opposed to a Sony product or a, you know, a Panasonic product. It's got to
  Joseph Scott: It could
  Frank Vandeusen: so
  Joseph Scott: come
  Frank Vandeusen: maybe, so you can have a look at our our other products and see if they all follow a s similar vein, perhaps.
  Joseph Scott: But it could come in different colours and have the R_R_ colours just
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Joseph Scott: somewhere like just around the lock button could be the R_R_ logo
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah.
  Joseph Scott: or colours and
  Jonathan Courtney: Mm.
  Joseph Scott: If.
  Frank Vandeusen: Quite poss yeah. Well this is all your department. Mm okay. Well, well done everybody. And um, I think we uh stop for lunch now.
  Jeffery Towner: Yeah, pretty soon I think, I guess that's now.
  Jonathan Courtney: Are we are we finished ahead of schedule?
  Frank Vandeusen: We might possibly have done.
  Joseph Scott: Cool.
  Jeffery Towner: Alright, see you all soon.
  Frank Vandeusen: If we've if we've finished at five minutes before the meeting's supposed to finish, then that means we get an extra five minutes for lunch.
  Jonathan Courtney: 'Kay uh.
  Frank Vandeusen: Yeah, there you go.
  Frank Vandeusen: Right. I just have to there's a few little bits and pieces I have to write down, but Take your headsets off, kick back, smoke 'em if you got 'em.
Updated Content: Frank Vandeusen had the team members re-introduce themselves and then briefed the team on his own duties and on the meeting agenda. Joseph Scott discussed the interior workings of a remote and the team discussed options for batteries and infra-red signals. Jeffery Towner discussed what features the remote was required to have and presented two existing products which were based on different concepts. Frank Vandeusen then introduced some new requirements to bear in mind when designing the remote. Jonathan Courtney presented research on consumer preferences on remotes in general and on voice recognition and the team discussed the option to have an ergonomically designed remote. Frank Vandeusen briefed the team on the decisions made so far and the team discussed color options for the remote.