Extracted Content: John Ford: I'm proud of it.
  William Battee: Okay. This is our final meeting, the detailed meeting. And again I'll take minutes. The what we have to get through in this meeting is firstly the prototype presentation from you two, so you can show us what you've been working
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: on so diligently. Um
  William Taveras: It
  William Battee: then
  William Taveras: does look very cool.
  William Battee: then Cat's going to present the evaluation criteria that we're going to be evaluating this against. Then I need to say some st a few things about finance, 'cause we have to check that it's within the finance criteria. Um and then be making sure that product fits both the evaluation criteria from Cat the financial. Um and then we uh will have a brief evaluation of the whole process of production and design that we've been through. So we've got forty minutes.
  William Taveras: And
  William Battee: S
  William Taveras: then do get to make a remote control?
  William Battee: 'Cause we missed out.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: So it's now I guess that we're supposed to start at fifteen thirty five, so we've got until four fifteen.
  John Ford: Uh-huh.
  William Battee: Is that
  John Ford: How
  William Battee: right?
  John Ford: how much do we have, forty minutes?
  John Cardozo: Yeah, about
  William Battee: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: four
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: fifteen,
  William Battee: until
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Battee: about four fifteen. So yeah.
  John Ford: Okay, so.
  William Battee: Go for it. Do you want
  John Cardozo: So, you said um are are we starting with the
  William Battee: Yes.
  John Cardozo: the
  John Ford: Presentation.
  John Cardozo: so will you maybe start with like the mm the shape and things and and then I will explain the the user interface th uh things,
  John Ford: Okay.
  John Cardozo: like the buttons and the scrolling things and
  John Ford: Okay. So um basically going with our trend of vegetables and we selected the colour and approximate shape of banana. Um
  William Taveras: You think bananas are a safe thing to use? It's a bit um phallic.
  John Ford: Yeah. Um
  John Cardozo: Well, but it's it's just an a
  William Battee: Dual
  John Cardozo: approximation.
  William Battee: use, perfect.
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Battee: Dual use, perfect.
  William Taveras: Oh, your remote control? Oh that's just bad.
  William Battee: Does it vibrate when you press the buttons? Sorry, sorry.
  John Ford: Um so basically it's the it's the flip open thing again.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Ford: So now we we have the okay, so Ma Maarika explain you the user interface there. And it flips open on the side, so it opens like that.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Ford: And we have the user interface
  William Battee: Wow.
  John Ford: o in here and uh the the L_C_D_ and and the scroll are inside. Um well, everything else is probably user interface, so. Yeah,
  John Cardozo: Uh
  William Battee: And it's
  John Ford: yeah.
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Battee: the whole thing's made of rubber,
  John Cardozo: Rubber.
  John Ford: Oh
  William Battee: is that
  John Ford: yeah. Yeah, it has, yeah.
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Taveras: Is it to scale, or do you think you can make it a bit smaller?
  John Cardozo: Um it could be made a bit smaller, and and of it would be and yeah,
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: but um one thing we actually kind of um forgot while designing, that one side was supposed to be rounder, so we
  John Ford: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: said the back side
  John Ford: well,
  John Cardozo: round,
  John Ford: but
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  John Ford: i since it's made of rubber anyway. I
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Ford: I think
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  John Ford: it's
  William Taveras: It
  John Ford: it's
  William Taveras: l does
  John Ford: uh
  William Taveras: look like the curvy and then the whole shape's curvy, so I
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Taveras: that this
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: curvy does look quite like a vegetable.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  John Ford: Mm. Hmm.
  John Cardozo: And it's spongy as well.
  William Taveras: I wasn't
  John Cardozo: So
  William Taveras: very keen on that, but yeah.
  William Battee: Huh.
  John Cardozo: so uh the user interface as as we discussed last time uh mm on on the on the cover we just have the very basic things.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Cardozo: So we have that n uh channels here starting from um uh one two three there would be numbers in in
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: the on the actual one. So it's four, up to four, up to seven,
  William Battee: Six
  John Cardozo: up
  William Battee: seven
  John Cardozo: to nine
  William Battee: eight nine.
  John Cardozo: and zero, z
  William Battee: I
  John Cardozo: zero
  William Battee: like
  John Cardozo: here.
  William Battee: that.
  John Cardozo: Yeah. And then, well this is on off button. It's it's quite standard mm place for it and and also the colour is quite often red, so it's it's kind of user friendly.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: And then these ones would be for flipping the channels back and like the previous one and the next one.
  William Battee: Uh-huh.
  John Cardozo: And and we would also have a l little um thing saying here, previous and ne prevon prevon next.
  William Taveras: So
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: where's the volume?
  John Cardozo: The volume is is scrolling. On
  John Ford: It's
  John Cardozo: the side,
  John Ford: on the side.
  John Cardozo: this
  William Taveras: Ah,
  John Cardozo: one.
  William Taveras: you
  John Cardozo: Yeah
  William Taveras: did
  John Cardozo: you
  William Taveras: get
  John Cardozo: just
  William Taveras: that
  John Cardozo: do
  William Taveras: in
  John Cardozo: it
  William Taveras: then,
  John Cardozo: like this.
  William Taveras: mm-hmm.
  John Cardozo: And and and it's it's on the back is mm cover or back lid, because if you flip it open, you can still do the scrolling here.
  William Taveras: Oh
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: okay,
  John Cardozo: See? So the volume is you just scroll, but then once you flip it open, okay, there there you have the screen
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: and and you have the mm spinning wheel with
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Cardozo: options to choose. You can move back and forth and then if you need to m choose something on the screen, you just push the cen mm the middle button.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: Cool. Oh, the thing we forgot was like a mute button.
  John Cardozo: A mute
  John Ford: Uh
  John Cardozo: button.
  John Ford: no,
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: we we'd not put
  John Cardozo: Well,
  John Ford: so on
  John Cardozo: we'll have this on the screen, on the display.
  John Ford: on the cover
  William Battee: Y or
  John Ford: we
  William Battee: you could
  John Ford: have
  William Battee: have
  John Ford: the
  William Battee: it
  John Ford: the
  William Battee: so
  William Taveras: On
  John Ford: bare
  William Taveras: the
  William Battee: you
  John Ford: essentials.
  William Taveras: wheel, like
  William Battee: on the
  William Taveras: if
  William Battee: wheel
  William Taveras: you hold
  William Battee: if
  William Taveras: the
  William Battee: you.
  William Taveras: wheel down then it will
  John Ford: Uh on
  William Taveras: mute.
  John Ford: the L_C_D_ we r you know, the main
  John Cardozo: Well,
  John Ford: menu will
  John Cardozo: but
  John Ford: have
  John Cardozo: the
  John Ford: various
  John Cardozo: but the mute
  John Ford: options.
  John Cardozo: yeah, the scrolling is kind of you have to scroll all the way to make it mute, right?
  William Battee: But if you
  William Taveras: Yeah,
  William Battee: hold
  William Taveras: but it's a
  William Battee: it
  William Taveras: scroll
  John Ford: Mm.
  William Battee: in,
  William Taveras: and click, isn't it?
  William Battee: if it's a scroll and click so you
  John Cardozo: Okay,
  William Battee: hold it in?
  William Taveras: Okay, cool.
  John Cardozo: yeah,
  William Taveras: So that
  John Cardozo: okay.
  William Taveras: that solves the whole mute issue.
  John Ford: Mm.
  John Cardozo: Yeah. And okay, so i so the the voice recognition is also just part of it. You can't really see it in
  William Battee: no.
  John Cardozo: the interface.
  John Ford: Yeah, it's
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  John Ford: hidden in there
  John Cardozo: And
  John Ford: somewhere.
  John Cardozo: we do have the logo on it as
  William Battee: Mm-hmm,
  John Cardozo: well.
  William Battee: very good.
  John Cardozo: So I think
  William Battee: And it's
  John Cardozo: it
  William Battee: with the the black and yellow you're even in the right colours.
  John Cardozo: Yeah. Yeah, I
  John Ford: Cool.
  John Cardozo: think um we could do l the logo in grey,
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Cardozo: as it is on the website.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: We
  John Cardozo: In the actual
  John Ford: ran out
  John Cardozo: one.
  John Ford: of resources here, so.
  John Cardozo: Yeah. So if
  John Ford: You
  John Cardozo: you
  John Ford: can
  John Cardozo: have
  John Ford: have
  John Cardozo: questions.
  John Ford: a look.
  William Battee: Very good, let's have a look. Test it out. Uh it's a sort of intermediate colour, I guess.
  William Taveras: Yeah, oh, we hold the remote. Oh, but it it does feel all cold and slimy. I hate Play-Do, it's just minging. But yeah, uh that's cool, cool.
  William Battee: Very good.
  William Taveras: Mm-hmm.
  William Battee: Okay, so maybe if we go on to evaluation cri criteria
  William Taveras: Okay.
  William Battee: and then we'll
  John Ford: Yeah,
  William Battee: there
  John Ford: see
  William Battee: I
  John Ford: the
  William Battee: suspect
  John Ford: budget.
  William Battee: we're gonna have a couple of minor finance issues, but um we'll se I'm sure we can get around them somehow.
  William Battee: We'll just send all of our manufacturing to some nice poor country and cut some of the prices that way.
  William Taveras: Wales.
  William Battee: Wales, for example.
  William Taveras: Mm. Cool, okay. Right, okay.
  William Taveras: Fabulous,
  William Battee: Marketing Expert.
  William Taveras: yeah. Okay, cool. So what we're gonna do is prefer prepare the evaluation of the new design.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: Um so we're gonna be using a seven point scale, so one is, you know, yes, it totally meets with that requirement and seven is, no, it really doesn't, we need to go back and start again. Um, you know. Basically, what I did was I went through all the like user requirements and things that we've done and we've worked on and like made a list of them. Um you know, so that we can evaluate each one and like so it was about going back to the start and saying oh yeah, we did manage to do that, or oh no, we really forgot about
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Taveras: that.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: Okay? Cool, so these are what they are. Oh
  William Battee: So for each of these we need to give it a one to seven. Is that right?
  William Taveras: Yes, I did have A_, B_, C_, and D_ down here, but it seems to have turned into like
  William Battee: Mm
  William Taveras: just bullet
  William Battee: dots,
  William Taveras: points.
  William Battee: never mind.
  William Taveras: Okay. But if you can imagine that they say A_, B_, C_, and D_, then that would be really good.
  John Ford: I guess we'll give it maximum points in everything.
  John Cardozo: Yeah, the yeah, it's definitely attractive.
  William Battee: Yeah, I agree.
  John Cardozo: Oh, the locatable thing we actually forgot.
  William Taveras: Well, I thought we'd um kinda said that you'd have a little thing to stick on the T_V_?
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: Shall I just prepare it
  William Battee: just
  John Cardozo: now?
  William Battee: prepare one now.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: It will be red, too.
  William Taveras: Cool. Okay. So, be attractive to look at. That's this one. What do you all say?
  John Ford: So?
  William Battee: I reckon
  John Cardozo: S seven
  William Battee: it
  John Cardozo: was th the maximum, yeah?
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: I I go for seven.
  William Battee: Seven,
  William Taveras: Oh
  William Battee: yeah,
  John Ford: Yes.
  William Battee: it's terribly
  William Taveras: we're all so
  William Battee: sexy.
  William Taveras: proud of the.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: Okay, so that'll be a seven for A_. Could oh no, you can't whilst that's up there. Okay um uh what I've done on the next page is I've set it up so we just put the marks in.
  William Battee: Ah, okay.
  John Ford: Okay.
  William Battee: Excellent. Except we can't
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: uh we
  William Taveras: But
  William Battee: can
  John Ford: But
  William Taveras: that's
  John Ford: we can
  William Battee: if
  William Taveras: alright.
  John Ford: we can
  William Battee: we
  William Taveras: If you
  John Ford: I can
  William Taveras: take
  John Ford: I can take
  William Taveras: a note
  John Ford: note
  William Taveras: of them,
  William Battee: then
  William Taveras: and
  John Ford: uh
  William Taveras: then
  William Battee: yeah,
  William Taveras: I'll
  William Battee: I'll
  John Ford: uh
  William Taveras: put
  William Battee: take
  William Taveras: them
  William Battee: a
  William Taveras: in
  William Battee: note,
  William Taveras: in a minute.
  William Battee: it's fine.
  William Taveras: Okay, so we're all agreeing on seven for A_?
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: Cool, okay. Does it match the operating behaviour of the user?
  John Cardozo: I
  John Ford: Um
  John Cardozo: would
  William Battee: I think
  John Cardozo: think
  William Battee: it does.
  John Cardozo: yes,
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  John Ford: the the
  William Taveras: I
  John Ford: only
  William Taveras: mean
  John Ford: thing that we were considering was that uh this thing is kind of more for right-handed people than for left-handed people, so if you're left-handed you're kind of
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  John Ford: left uh
  John Cardozo: so
  William Battee: Alright.
  John Ford: scrolling
  John Cardozo: y so we
  John Ford: with your
  John Cardozo: we
  John Ford: finger.
  John Cardozo: might do we might want to do like a uh another m model another another version, which is like exactly the mirror image of this one.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: But that's gonna be a
  John Ford: But
  William Battee: problem,
  John Ford: then
  William Battee: 'cause
  John Ford: yeah.
  William Battee: you don't always have all left-handers or all right-handers in a family.
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  John Ford: So
  William Taveras: I th I think
  John Ford: bu
  William Taveras: it's
  John Ford: it's
  William Taveras: not
  John Ford: it's not a huge problem,
  William Taveras: it's
  John Ford: because
  William Taveras: not like
  John Ford: i
  John Cardozo: But
  John Ford: i it
  William Taveras: it's
  John Cardozo: then
  William Taveras: a pen.
  John Cardozo: then
  John Ford: is operatable.
  John Cardozo: I think left-handed people are already used to discrimination
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: anyway, so they just
  William Taveras: Yeah, but I mean because it's not like it's a pen, you know, left-handed
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Taveras: people can't normally write right-handed, but they can normally do most things right-handed,
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: so I
  John Ford: Right.
  William Taveras: would say it's not such a big issue.
  John Cardozo: Yeah, because
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Cardozo: I mean anyway, right-handed people would be able to
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: scroll with it, so i
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: if the
  William Taveras: I
  John Cardozo: majority
  William Taveras: mean you can
  John Cardozo: are right-handed,
  William Taveras: you can use
  John Cardozo: it's
  William Taveras: your finger
  John Cardozo: uh
  William Taveras: to to
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: scroll rather than your thumb.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: Yep.
  William Taveras: So I mean that does kind of negate the whole R_S_I_ issue.
  John Ford: Mm.
  William Taveras: So maybe we need to put that needs a little bit of investigation, maybe
  William Battee: Um
  William Taveras: give it a five, I would say? What do you what do you all think?
  William Battee: Six.
  John Cardozo: Or maybe
  John Ford: Mm.
  John Cardozo: six, because it's just one one i one
  William Battee: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: among
  William Battee: I
  John Cardozo: the issues,
  William Battee: think
  John Cardozo: I
  William Battee: I
  John Cardozo: mean.
  William Battee: think
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: for um I mean most people are right-handed, so in in terms of our greatest target group, I think it's pretty good,
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: but
  John Ford: One
  William Battee: we might
  John Ford: more
  William Battee: want
  John Ford: thing
  William Battee: to
  John Ford: is
  William Battee: flag
  John Ford: that i
  William Battee: it for management, they want might want to um
  William Taveras: Okay.
  John Ford: It
  William Battee: They
  John Ford: might be a little clumsy when when it opens up, right, so it opens on the side.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Cardozo: No, yeah,
  John Ford: So
  John Cardozo: but mm but we have it nicely with the hinges
  John Ford: Yeah
  John Cardozo: here yeah.
  John Ford: yeah
  John Cardozo: So
  John Ford: yeah,
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: I mean
  John Cardozo: it
  John Ford: yeah.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: So you
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: guys
  John Cardozo: won't
  John Ford: can decide
  John Cardozo: be a problem,
  John Ford: wh
  John Cardozo: it will be
  John Ford: whether
  John Cardozo: and it will be it won't be heavy.
  John Ford: Oops.
  William Taveras: I th I think the alternative is flipping from the top.
  John Cardozo: Yeah
  John Ford: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: well
  John Ford: but
  John Cardozo: yeah,
  John Ford: we
  John Cardozo: but it's it's
  John Ford: which
  William Battee: The
  John Cardozo: a
  John Ford: makes
  John Cardozo: bit
  William Battee: length
  John Cardozo: long.
  John Ford: it kind
  William Battee: is gonna
  John Ford: of really
  William Battee: be difficu
  John Cardozo: It's a little bit long.
  John Ford: big, yeah.
  William Taveras: Yeah
  John Cardozo: Well, I mean it can
  William Taveras: um
  John Cardozo: be opened like this of course
  William Taveras: But
  John Cardozo: and
  William Taveras: you were thinking
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: about making it smaller, yeah?
  William Battee: Mm.
  John Ford: Uh
  William Taveras: Because
  John Ford: this
  John Cardozo: S
  John Ford: this
  John Cardozo: uh
  John Ford: kind
  John Cardozo: slightly
  John Ford: of uh
  John Cardozo: smaller.
  John Ford: makes it more and
  William Taveras: So you have
  John Ford: two,
  William Taveras: to
  John Ford: it
  William Taveras: keep
  John Ford: might interfere with the
  William Taveras: that side
  John Ford: I_R_
  William Taveras: flat.
  John Ford: channel.
  John Cardozo: Yeah, but if we flip it open only as much as that.
  John Ford: Okay.
  William Taveras: So it works like a mobile phone flipping, but y you know, as long as that side's flat, than that will work.
  John Ford: Right.
  William Taveras: Okay.
  John Ford: Okay.
  William Taveras: Um okay, so C_. Are are we admitting defeat on C_ or are we saying we're gonna stick a locator on the T_V_?
  William Battee: No,
  John Ford: No,
  William Battee: we're gonna
  John Ford: we
  William Battee: put
  John Ford: have
  William Battee: it like
  John Ford: a locator.
  William Battee: we've got th there's the locator
  William Taveras: There's a locator.
  William Battee: dot.
  William Taveras: Cool,
  John Cardozo: Mm
  William Taveras: so that
  John Cardozo: that
  William Taveras: means
  John Cardozo: you stick
  William Taveras: you need
  John Cardozo: on
  William Taveras: a
  John Cardozo: T_V_.
  William Taveras: that
  William Battee: Mm.
  William Taveras: does mean you need a little speaker on it though, doesn't it? To make it beep.
  John Cardozo: Yeah
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Taveras: Or
  John Cardozo: well
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: a buzzer.
  John Cardozo: w but l but the speak sample speaker is included, so it it has some
  William Taveras: Okay.
  John Cardozo: capacity to mm to do
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: some to
  William Taveras: So
  John Cardozo: make some sounds, so
  William Taveras: that's
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: two, so that's seven, yeah. It's locatable?
  John Cardozo: Yep.
  William Taveras: Fabulous. D_.
  John Ford: Intuitive, completely intuitive.
  John Cardozo: Yeah. If uh uh if this means intuitive, if it means the way people kind of are used to finding things and it's
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: I th I think
  William Battee: I'd
  John Cardozo: it's
  William Battee: say six, 'cause the I mean the the standard layout for numbers is three three three and one, rather than the way you've got it. I really like the way you have it,
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: but it's not the immediate thing that
  John Ford: Intuitive.
  William Battee: you're used to.
  William Taveras: Yeah, and I mean
  William Battee: So
  William Taveras: d
  John Ford: And uh even the scroll, it's a it's a new technology so m m
  William Battee: Might
  John Ford: might
  William Battee: be
  John Ford: be a little more difficult for people to get used to in the beginni so it is kind of not very intuitive but uh it's a good technology,
  William Battee: But it
  John Ford: I mean
  William Battee: and
  John Ford: once
  William Battee: it's
  John Ford: they
  William Battee: something
  John Ford: get used
  William Battee: that
  John Ford: to it.
  William Battee: they will be experiencing in a lot of different places
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Battee: soon.
  William Taveras: So,
  John Ford: So
  William Taveras: should
  John Ford: l
  William Taveras: we maybe say f a five
  William Battee: Five?
  William Taveras: and say it is intuitive, but it's different, so,
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: do you know, I mean it's obvious how to use it, but you might have to think about it first. So we give that one a five, you
  John Ford: Yeah,
  William Taveras: think?
  John Ford: okay.
  William Battee: I'm
  William Taveras: Yep.
  William Battee: happy
  John Ford: I'm
  William Battee: with five?
  John Ford: gonna
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  John Ford: give a seven in everything, so.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: I'm glad you're accepting this. It has taken a little while, hasn't it? Um intuitive but
  William Taveras: it's really hard to write on those. I just
  John Ford: Mm.
  William Taveras: went a bit mad, didn't I? Um okay, cool, E_, okay. Um I would guess this comes back from this whole B_ thing links in here, so possibly for left-handed. Investigate.
  William Battee: Yep. But otherwise it's superb.
  William Taveras: So, should we give it a six?
  William Battee: Six.
  William Taveras: Six?
  John Cardozo: Um uh the ergonom ergonomic design well
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: mm I mean I d uh I dunno, I mean the the repetitive stress things, but then who would be really pushing the buttons so much on the on the remote control anyway,
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: yeah?
  John Ford: Yeah, unless
  John Cardozo: See.
  John Ford: you are a all the time sitting.
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: so it's kinda
  William Battee: Well we've
  John Ford: Yeah,
  William Battee: banned
  William Taveras: I
  John Ford: I
  William Taveras: used
  William Battee: them
  John Ford: I think
  William Battee: from
  William Taveras: to send
  John Ford: it is
  William Taveras: fifty
  John Ford: ergonomic.
  William Taveras: texts a day, you know, and I never got repetitive strain injury from
  John Ford: Mm
  William Taveras: that, so
  John Ford: yeah.
  William Taveras: I find it quite hard to believe to be honest.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: And moreover it it has um L_C_D_ and everything, so that
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  John Ford: uh you know
  William Battee: Yeah,
  John Ford: uh we minimise
  William Battee: it's varied.
  John Ford: the pressing of the buttons anyway.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: Okay, so
  William Battee: Six?
  William Taveras: we give that a six, yeah. Okay, F_.
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Battee: Voice
  John Cardozo: it
  William Battee: control
  John Cardozo: does have
  William Battee: have seven.
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  John Ford: Absolutely.
  William Taveras: Hang on, how come it's showing up with the things there but it only had bullet points there? That's
  William Battee: Ah,
  William Taveras: just
  William Battee: that's the second one. So you must have changed it on this one where it's got score, but not on the previous slide.
  William Taveras: Oh okay, cool. Um right, so.
  John Ford: So it has voice control.
  William Taveras: Yes, so that's a seven then.
  John Ford: Yep.
  William Taveras: Um,
  William Battee: G_
  William Taveras: cool.
  John Ford: Anyway
  John Cardozo: Technologi
  William Battee: technologically
  John Ford: it ha
  William Battee: innovative.
  John Ford: yeah,
  John Cardozo: well
  John Ford: it's the most sophisticated remote that I ever seen.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: But in terms of the actual technology, none of it is actually new.
  John Cardozo: well, which
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: is yeah,
  William Taveras: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: it's kind
  William Taveras: but
  John Cardozo: of
  William Taveras: I
  John Cardozo: new.
  William Taveras: mean you
  William Battee: All
  William Taveras: don't
  William Battee: of the components have been used in other things before.
  John Cardozo: But
  John Ford: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: at
  John Ford: but
  John Cardozo: the same
  John Ford: they've been
  John Cardozo: time
  John Ford: brought
  William Taveras: They're
  John Ford: together
  William Taveras: never
  John Cardozo: they are all
  William Battee: But
  William Taveras: been
  John Ford: in
  William Battee: do
  William Taveras: used
  John Ford: a remote.
  John Cardozo: they are all
  William Battee: yeah,
  William Taveras: i
  John Cardozo: relatively new.
  William Taveras: they've
  William Battee: yeah.
  William Taveras: never been using remote remote control before I don't think.
  William Battee: Yeah. What do you reckon, five, six?
  William Taveras: Yeah, what do you all think?
  John Cardozo: Six.
  William Taveras: Six?
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: I mean how how far can you go with a remote control, really?
  William Taveras: Well, that's
  John Cardozo: It
  William Taveras: it,
  John Cardozo: still
  William Taveras: I mean
  John Cardozo: has to do what i what it has to do.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: Yeah, but I mean everything has been used in space before it gets to anyone else really, hasn't it? So, I don't think many
  William Battee: Space
  William Taveras: peop
  William Battee: remote.
  William Taveras: That's it, they can take it with them.
  William Battee: Put fashion in electronics.
  John Ford: Absolutely.
  John Cardozo: Yeah, isn't it fashionable? Yeah, sure.
  John Ford: The carrot banana
  John Cardozo: It's the maximum
  John Ford: remote.
  John Cardozo: fashion.
  William Taveras: So, we give it seven,
  John Cardozo: Fruit
  William Taveras: and
  John Cardozo: fruit
  William Taveras: we write
  John Cardozo: and vegetables are fashionable these days, so.
  William Taveras: There we go.
  John Cardozo: So
  John Ford: I
  John Cardozo: I think
  John Ford: think that's
  John Cardozo: we've
  John Ford: a.
  John Cardozo: done very well, but
  William Taveras: Cool.
  William Battee: Very good.
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: What's the assessment?
  William Taveras: So, we need the average here, so we got
  John Cardozo: The average is about six and something.
  William Battee: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: A little bit over
  William Battee: one.
  John Cardozo: six.
  William Taveras: Seven
  William Battee: Or a seven.
  John Ford: There are how many sixes?
  John Cardozo: No,
  William Taveras: So we've
  John Cardozo: wait,
  William Taveras: got
  John Ford: One,
  William Taveras: four
  John Cardozo: a
  William Taveras: sevens,
  John Ford: two,
  John Cardozo: little bit under
  John Ford: three.
  John Cardozo: six.
  William Taveras: so that's twenty
  John Cardozo: No, wait.
  William Taveras: eight,
  John Ford: Three.
  William Taveras: three sixes,
  John Ford: And one five.
  William Taveras: eighteen.
  John Cardozo: Oh, three sixes, okay,
  William Battee: Fifty
  John Ford: Okay,
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  John Ford: twenty
  William Battee: one,
  John Ford: eight, thirty
  William Battee: one,
  John Ford: eight,
  William Battee: two,
  John Ford: fo
  William Battee: three, four,
  John Ford: forty
  John Cardozo: Four
  William Battee: five,
  John Cardozo: sevens.
  William Battee: six,
  John Ford: six.
  William Battee: seven, eight.
  John Ford: Forty six and five,
  William Battee: Six
  John Ford: fifty one.
  William Battee: point
  John Ford: Fifty one divided
  John Cardozo: Six
  John Ford: by
  John Cardozo: point something,
  William Battee: point
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: Two
  William Battee: about
  William Taveras: three
  William Battee: six point five.
  John Cardozo: Six
  William Taveras: four
  John Cardozo: point five,
  William Taveras: Seven
  William Battee: Close
  William Taveras: eight.
  William Battee: enough.
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: Okay, that's pretty good, I think.
  William Battee: Now wait until we get to finance and then we'll see if we can afford it. That's all you've got at the moment, or did you have anything more?
  William Taveras: Um no, that's
  William Battee: That's
  William Taveras: it,
  William Battee: it?
  William Taveras: yeah.
  William Battee: Alright. So, finance. And we'll see if we can unscrew this first.
  William Taveras: Cool,
  William Battee: Sorry, this
  William Taveras: there
  William Battee: is
  William Taveras: we go.
  William Battee: I'm just um
  William Taveras: There we go and there are the marks.
  William Battee: Beautiful.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: Not anymore.
  John Ford: Mm I guess it'll have to wait for a bit.
  William Battee: Adjusting. There we go. Okay, so we've looked at the prototype presentation and the evaluation criteria. And now we have to calculate the production costs. So I've got an Excel spreadsheet to help us do that. Can you read that? Almost. More or less. Um I started filling it in, but of course these are provisional, so we have to go down. No hand dynamo, right?
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: One simple
  John Ford: Mm.
  William Battee: battery. No kinetic energy, no solar. The chip, we're going for an advanced
  John Ford: Advanced,
  William Battee: chip
  John Ford: yeah.
  William Battee: on print. We also said the sample sensor and sample speaker.
  John Cardozo: Yep.
  William Battee: Um single-curved surface, so that
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Battee: we can fold
  John Cardozo: yes.
  William Battee: it. Case material we said rubber.
  John Cardozo: Rubber.
  John Ford: Yep.
  William Battee: I don't know what special colour means.
  John Ford: Mm anything uh I think which
  John Cardozo: I
  John Ford: is
  John Cardozo: think
  John Ford: not
  John Cardozo: something
  John Ford: more.
  John Cardozo: coloured, yeah, probably. So I think this is probably special co
  William Battee: It
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: no?
  William Battee: could be
  William Taveras: Yeah, but rubber comes coloured,
  William Battee: Rub
  William Taveras: doesn't
  William Battee: rubber
  William Taveras: it? You
  William Battee: comes
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Taveras: know.
  William Battee: coloured, it's I would maybe it's like if you want titanium coloured or wood
  John Cardozo: Or
  William Battee: coloured,
  John Cardozo: maybe
  William Battee: it's
  John Cardozo: maybe
  William Battee: different.
  John Cardozo: if you want some kind of pattern thing on it,
  William Battee: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: yeah
  William Battee: let's leave
  John Cardozo: yeah,
  William Battee: it as zero,
  John Cardozo: okay.
  William Battee: 'cause it's easy.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Taveras: Yeah, you might end up having to take off
  William Battee: We
  William Taveras: the
  William Battee: we're definitely going to
  John Cardozo: We
  William Battee: have
  John Cardozo: have
  William Battee: to
  John Cardozo: pushbuttons,
  William Battee: so
  John Ford: Mm.
  William Battee: we've
  William Taveras: sample
  William Battee: got pushbutton,
  William Taveras: sensor.
  William Battee: and then
  John Cardozo: scro
  William Battee: we've
  John Cardozo: we have scroll wheel as well.
  William Battee: Scroll wheel with pushbutton we had, no? S for
  John Cardozo: S
  John Ford: No
  William Battee: the muting.
  John Cardozo: yeah,
  John Ford: uh we
  John Cardozo: yeah,
  John Ford: we
  John Cardozo: we had,
  John Ford: have uh
  John Cardozo: for muting,
  John Ford: yeah.
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: And we have L_C_ display and yeah.
  William Battee: And button supplements.
  John Cardozo: Um
  John Ford: Mm no.
  William Taveras: No.
  John Ford: We
  William Battee: No.
  John Ford: don't have we're not using any
  William Battee: No?
  John Ford: of
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  John Ford: that.
  John Cardozo: but what do we ha we have L_C_ display, but but the wh
  William Battee: But
  John Cardozo: but
  William Battee: the
  John Cardozo: the
  William Battee: the
  John Cardozo: s
  William Battee: spinning wheel's
  John Cardozo: spinning
  William Battee: not
  John Cardozo: wheel
  William Battee: there. I have think
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: maybe it's integrated with the L_C_ display?
  John Cardozo: Okay,
  William Taveras: We've got
  John Cardozo: let's
  William Taveras: more than one pushbutton though,
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: haven't we?
  William Battee: I think the pushbutton oh.
  William Taveras: 'Cause then you have
  William Battee: I don't know if that's one
  William Taveras: That means you can only have twenty five push buttons in total doesn't it? Not counting anything, we'd
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: still be in budget.
  William Battee: That seems unlikely. Push
  John Ford: Huh? Wh wh what
  William Battee: what
  John Ford: is the limit?
  William Battee: uh
  John Ford: Uh.
  William Taveras: Twelve
  William Battee: whether
  William Taveras: point five.
  William Battee: whether pushbutton means that
  John Cardozo: We have to count
  William Battee: p
  John Cardozo: all
  William Battee: count
  John Cardozo: of them, or
  William Battee: by
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Battee: button or do
  John Ford: Mm
  William Battee: we
  John Ford: I
  William Battee: I
  John Ford: don't
  William Battee: don't think
  John Ford: think
  William Battee: that
  John Ford: so,
  William Battee: makes sense.
  John Ford: no.
  William Taveras: No. Well
  John Ford: No
  William Taveras: it doesn't,
  John Ford: it says
  William Taveras: but it
  John Ford: what what is the kind
  William Taveras: uh
  William Battee: No.
  John Ford: of interface, if it is pushbutton then you got a zero point five, it's a scroll wheel so we we've put it's pushbutton and
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: scroll wheel
  William Taveras: And
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: and L_C_D_
  William Taveras: L_C_
  John Ford: display,
  William Taveras: display.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: so that's that's the three kind of interfaces
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: that we have.
  William Battee: So, as we can see, that's way too expensive down here.
  John Ford: Wh wh what's
  William Taveras: This
  John Ford: our
  William Taveras: sample
  John Ford: criteria?
  William Battee: Our budget's
  William Taveras: sensor.
  William Battee: twelve point five.
  John Ford: Uh okay.
  William Taveras: Yeah, the sample sensor will have to go, 'cause that's the most expensive thing
  William Battee: Yeah,
  William Taveras: on there.
  William Battee: so that has implications though for the.
  John Ford: Uh it does not have for voice recognition, but it does have for the feedback speaker. when you
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: say when you press one it says
  William Battee: For the
  John Ford: one
  William Battee: locator.
  John Ford: or it says hello.
  William Taveras: But that's a bit of a gimmick anyway really,
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: isn't
  John Ford: Mm
  William Taveras: it? We can afford
  John Ford: and
  William Taveras: to get
  John Ford: the
  William Taveras: rid
  John Ford: locator
  William Taveras: of it.
  John Ford: also goes away.
  John Cardozo: But it was very no innovative
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: So that
  John Cardozo: innovativeness.
  William Taveras: means no locator,
  John Cardozo: Well um
  William Taveras: does it?
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: I mean does
  William Battee: What else
  John Cardozo: Well
  William Battee: does
  John Cardozo: the speaker
  William Battee: it need?
  John Cardozo: uh the sample speaker is is expensive, but we could just have some some very very easy device that just beeps.
  William Battee: Yeah, 'cause the sample
  John Cardozo: This would
  William Battee: speaker
  John Cardozo: be
  William Battee: was, I think, more complicated then
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Battee: just a beeping
  John Cardozo: yeah
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: yeah
  William Battee: thing.
  John Cardozo: there you record your samples
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: your speech samples
  William Battee: okay,
  John Ford: A also
  John Cardozo: and
  William Battee: so
  John Ford: i
  William Battee: we
  John Ford: in the case I'm not sure that you will evaluate this as a curved surface, because it's just rubber, so it's probably a flat surface rubber. Uh I mean
  William Battee: Uh-huh.
  John Ford: uh um
  William Taveras: Okay, yeah.
  John Ford: yeah.
  William Battee: Right,
  John Ford: Um
  William Battee: so we need one fifty off.
  William Taveras: See, I was gonna say the scroll wheel pushbutton thing, 'cause
  William Battee: Take it down to just a scroll wheel. We could
  John Ford: So
  William Battee: do
  John Ford: tha that mean that we cannot press
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  John Ford: how
  John Cardozo: then
  John Ford: do we how
  John Cardozo: then
  John Ford: do
  John Cardozo: we
  John Ford: we
  John Cardozo: would
  John Ford: make
  John Cardozo: be
  John Ford: a selection
  John Cardozo: in the b budget.
  John Ford: in uh in the L_C_D_? If in the L_C_D_ we can scroll, right? But how do we make a selection if we d
  John Cardozo: Yeah
  John Ford: cannot
  John Cardozo: b
  John Ford: push
  John Cardozo: no
  John Ford: the button.
  John Cardozo: no, you can push this one, but we don't have a pushbutton uh we ca we don't have this muting mechanism for this scrolling
  William Taveras: But
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: that's
  John Cardozo: thing.
  William Taveras: well you would just have to to spin
  William Battee: You can
  William Taveras: it down.
  William Battee: have to scroll it straight r roll it straight down for
  John Cardozo: Mm-hmm.
  William Battee: for mute.
  William Taveras: So
  John Ford: No w
  William Taveras: that's
  John Ford: w
  William Taveras: point
  John Ford: w
  William Taveras: three.
  John Ford: but ha it's it's the scroll wheel and I thought we were referring to this as a scroll spinning wheel and pushbutton thing.
  John Cardozo: But I mean we can put an additional mute button on the top as well. If you
  William Taveras: Yeah, I mean that wouldn't actually cost any more. That's the spin wheel though, isn't it? Didn't that come with the L_C_
  William Battee: That's with the L_C_
  John Ford: That comes with the L_C_D_?
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: We decided, 'cause it's not on our list.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: Oh so
  John Cardozo: Mm.
  John Ford: so the the this is.
  William Battee: The scroll wheel is on the side.
  John Ford: So we're adding costs for right, okay uh I mean I think this is good.
  John Cardozo: So
  William Taveras: S so we're point three
  William Battee: We're
  William Taveras: over.
  William Battee: point three over at the moment. It's nothing
  William Taveras: Unless
  William Battee: n
  William Taveras: we just take off the scroll wheel altogether and just have pushbuttons for the volume. Could b still put them on the side. But
  William Battee: Yeah,
  William Taveras: yeah. I mean
  William Battee: I
  William Taveras: the
  William Battee: have
  William Taveras: scroll wheel's pretty cool, but
  John Ford: Instead of scrolling here we have two buttons here,
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: up for up and down.
  John Cardozo: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: On the side.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: Mm uh it
  John Cardozo: Okay,
  John Ford: sounds good actually, yeah.
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Battee: Rather than having three different things that people have to do.
  John Cardozo: Okay.
  William Battee: There we go. Oh look, we're way under budget and we'll make huge profits and we'll all get bonuses.
  William Taveras: Yeah, well we could admit to the single curve, couldn't we?
  William Battee: Or or that we have to have some sort of special colour.
  William Taveras: Yeah,
  William Battee: So
  William Taveras: but
  William Battee: that's alright. We we'll leave it at that
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: and then I'll take I can send it back to management and say we weren't quite sure about the colour, if that costs extra then we've still got some space for
  John Ford: We
  William Battee: it,
  John Ford: have, yeah.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: yeah.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: Excellent. Alright. So did we lose um on our evaluation criteria, as a result
  William Taveras: No.
  William Battee: of doing that?
  William Taveras: No, I don't
  John Ford: Not
  William Taveras: think so.
  John Ford: really, no. Because we keep all the features, we keep voice recognition, we keep L_C_D_
  William Battee: Mm.
  John Ford: display.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: We
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: instead of having scrolling we we just
  William Taveras: We just
  John Ford: push
  William Taveras: got
  John Ford: the buttons.
  William Taveras: rid of a gimmick that
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: Um
  William Taveras: was never anyway, and
  John Ford: yeah.
  William Taveras: the scroll wheel is I mean essentially the two buttons that was it's not a great difference I don't
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: think.
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Battee: Alright then.
  John Ford: But we lose the locator.
  William Taveras: Really?
  William Battee: We're
  John Cardozo: Well
  William Battee: gonna have a beep.
  John Cardozo: we're going to have a beeping thing.
  John Ford: So instead of speaker,
  John Cardozo: But yeah,
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: it's it's not like sample speaker, but it will just beep, so we still have the locate.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: 'Kay.
  William Taveras: Cool. That's not a very exciting colour. I think you should make it more vegetable-like.
  John Cardozo: Which colour,
  William Battee: Tha.
  John Cardozo: the the colour of the phone or the colour of the
  William Taveras: Oh the the beeper thing.
  John Cardozo: But
  William Taveras: It
  John Cardozo: it can be yellow as well. It can come in the same colour as the
  William Battee: 'Cause
  John Cardozo: the
  William Battee: we
  John Cardozo: case.
  William Battee: we won't have run out of our pot of Play-Doh.
  William Taveras: Yeah, I think Jen wants it to vibrate. You know, your pen
  William Battee: Yeah,
  William Taveras: vibrates?
  William Battee: I know I
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: know, my pen vibrates. But only for a very short time. Um okay. So looks like we've designed a banana. Well done, team. Um we need we've just got about ten minutes or so left of the meeting, so it would be good if we could just have a little talk about the project itself and how it went, um so that we can feed back to the management for next time they're designing a product.
  William Taveras: Cool.
  William Battee: Feedback?
  John Ford: I think it mm
  William Battee: Ideas?
  John Cardozo: Yeah mm, as far as creativity is concerned, yeah I think there was there was room for creativity. The only the only problem being that at the end we had to cut some things down because
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Cardozo: of the the budget we had.
  John Ford: I think uh n one thing that was lacking uh was that we did not know what the various things cost to begin with.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: Um we kap kept a adding things randomly.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: So,
  William Taveras: If
  John Ford: had
  William Taveras: we'd
  John Ford: we
  William Taveras: had
  John Ford: known
  William Taveras: that sheet at the beginning should've been like, okay, so
  John Ford: Yeah,
  William Taveras: we can have that lot,
  John Ford: that
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Ford: or not,
  William Taveras: let's
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Taveras: just
  John Ford: yeah.
  William Taveras: throw it together
  John Cardozo: yeah,
  William Taveras: and
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: do what
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Taveras: we can.
  John Ford: So d all the random decisions at the end could have been
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: prevented. Mm.
  William Battee: But in terms of the process of um going and working individually and then coming back to a meeting, that
  John Ford: Yeah,
  William Battee: that worked
  John Ford: mm.
  William Taveras: I think 'cause
  William Battee: in terms
  William Taveras: the meetings
  William Battee: of.
  William Taveras: were so regular, you know.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: It wasn't like we were alone for very long, so you didn't st go off and think, wouldn't it be great to have a vibrating
  William Battee: Mm-hmm. Banana.
  William Taveras: remote control shaped like a banana, and then, you know, come back three days later and Jen's
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Taveras: going look, look, it vibrates and it looks like a banana. Um yeah, so yeah.
  John Cardozo: Yeah, the m the means were very very good, the means we used.
  William Battee: Mm-hmm, the whiteboard digital
  John Cardozo: And
  William Battee: pens.
  John Cardozo: the pens.
  William Taveras: Uh
  William Battee: We like
  William Taveras: I like the
  William Battee: the
  William Taveras: pens.
  William Battee: pens.
  William Taveras: I want one. That would just be so cool, to d do all your notes and s
  William Battee: Yeah, you could take it to lectures and just write stuff down
  John Ford: Yeah
  William Battee: and have it printed out
  John Ford: yeah
  William Battee: when you
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Battee: got back
  John Ford: yeah,
  William Battee: to the
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Battee: office.
  John Ford: that's it's it's
  William Battee: They great?
  John Ford: I wonder what one of these costs.
  William Battee: Do you think they'd notice if one went?
  William Taveras: I don't think you should say that was the recording.
  William Battee: Oh okay.
  William Taveras: Okay, cover up the microphone. Alright,
  William Battee: Yep.
  William Taveras: let's
  William Battee: Shh.
  William Taveras: take it.
  William Battee: Yep.
  William Taveras: Okay.
  William Battee: But that worked well having having a whiteboard that we could draw on as well as having the PowerPoint, 'cause the I find that the problem with PowerPoint often is that it's so static and you can't change
  William Taveras: It
  William Battee: it
  William Taveras: is
  William Battee: once
  William Taveras: a bit
  William Battee: you're
  William Taveras: limiting,
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: in
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Battee: there,
  William Taveras: isn't it? Yeah.
  William Battee: yep.
  John Cardozo: Yeah, and and and this time also the time limits but actually
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: preparing the
  William Taveras: The
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: thing flew in, you didn't have the whole whooshing thing,
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Taveras: 'cause there wasn't time for that, so
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: yeah.
  William Battee: That's alright, that always irritates
  William Taveras: Not
  William Battee: William Taveras
  William Taveras: that you
  William Battee: anyway,
  William Taveras: can do that on the board, either.
  William Battee: yeah.
  William Taveras: We could make some little
  John Cardozo: But yeah, but I mean already just just preparing the slides before
  William Taveras: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: before
  William Taveras: totally,
  John Cardozo: the meeting,
  William Taveras: I mean that was
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: fairly tight anyway,
  William Battee: Mm.
  William Taveras: I mean especially with that last-minute alteration.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: Mm yeah.
  William Taveras: back it, this is just had to be changed. And yeah, so cool.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  William Taveras: Are we supposed to say nice things about Jen now?
  William Battee: And presumably you don't you can say nasty things as well.
  John Cardozo: Yeah. I was
  William Battee: I have
  John Cardozo: I was
  William Battee: no
  John Cardozo: satisfied
  William Battee: stake in it.
  John Cardozo: with with
  William Taveras: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: the leadership,
  William Taveras: definitely.
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Taveras: You weren't
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  William Taveras: like a a dictating leader, so that was always good.
  William Battee: You have to say that, 'cause I'm taking the notes.
  John Cardozo: Mm-hmm.
  William Battee: I'll leave the room and you can
  William Taveras: I
  William Battee: have
  William Taveras: know
  William Battee: another
  William Taveras: you've got
  William Battee: go.
  William Taveras: the pen, you might attack William Taveras with
  William Battee: Better
  John Cardozo: And then
  William Battee: than
  John Cardozo: the
  William Battee: that
  John Cardozo: teamwork
  William Taveras: it.
  William Battee: than the banana.
  John Cardozo: I think I think it worked quite
  William Battee: I think it
  John Cardozo: quite
  William Battee: worked
  John Cardozo: nicely,
  William Battee: quite well.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Battee: Did anyone feel that they were getting sort of covered up and not being able to say
  John Cardozo: To express
  William Battee: their bit?
  John Cardozo: them mm
  John Ford: Mm.
  John Cardozo: mm
  John Ford: I guess
  John Cardozo: no.
  John Ford: it was a fairly small group, so all of us got
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Ford: to express our opinions, yeah.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: New ideas found. Not
  John Cardozo: Well
  William Battee: quite
  John Cardozo: it's
  William Battee: sure
  John Cardozo: it's
  William Battee: what
  John Cardozo: it's
  William Battee: about.
  John Cardozo: pretty new,
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: pretty
  John Ford: Mm.
  John Cardozo: novel solution for a for a remote control really, all this flipping
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: open thing and
  William Taveras: I don't know, I don't go shopping for remote controls that
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Taveras: often, maybe somebody's
  John Cardozo: neither neither do
  William Taveras: already
  John Cardozo: I, but I've
  William Taveras: though
  John Cardozo: never
  William Taveras: of
  John Cardozo: seen
  William Taveras: it.
  John Cardozo: anything and and none of my examples were was was like this, actually,
  William Battee: Mm-hmm.
  John Cardozo: so.
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  John Ford: Hmm.
  William Taveras: Yeah. I'll be looking out next time I need
  William Battee: Yeah,
  William Taveras: to write
  William Battee: that's
  William Taveras: an essay.
  William Battee: right.
  William Taveras: That looks boring, I'll see if anyone's
  John Cardozo: Yeah maybe
  William Taveras: made
  John Cardozo: w
  William Taveras: a
  John Cardozo: maybe we
  William Taveras: remote
  John Cardozo: could have
  William Taveras: control.
  John Cardozo: a patent on this one.
  William Taveras: Yeah,
  John Ford: Yeah.
  William Taveras: yeah.
  John Cardozo: Patent patent patent.
  William Battee: Banana
  William Taveras: I think we'd
  William Battee: remote.
  William Taveras: like to
  John Cardozo: Mm.
  William Taveras: think the ideas were new, but we've got no way of finding out.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: Mm-hmm.
  William Battee: Or you can always go to Google and type in banana remote control.
  William Taveras: That
  William Battee: Flip.
  William Taveras: vibrates
  William Battee: Vibrate. And uh yeah.
  William Taveras: Yeah, but that would just come up with like other things really
  William Battee: Nothing
  William Taveras: wouldn't it.
  William Battee: that you really want. True. Yeah. Okay. So, costs are within budget,
  John Cardozo: Yes.
  William Taveras: Yes.
  William Battee: well within budget, including a little what have we got? One Euro left over for bits that we didn't foresee. Um we've evaluated
  John Cardozo: Yes.
  William Battee: the project. You've
  William Taveras: And it's fabulous.
  William Battee: got the scores. Can you put that in the project documents file?
  William Taveras: It's in the project
  William Battee: It's in
  William Taveras: documents.
  William Battee: there already. And the process wheel didn't really have any major problems with. Were there any was there anything that you found difficult, or anything that didn't go as smoothly as you'd
  John Cardozo: And
  William Battee: hope?
  John Cardozo: my main difficulty was the the time pressure.
  William Battee: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: Otherwise
  William Taveras: Yeah,
  John Cardozo: it's
  John Ford: Mm-hmm.
  William Taveras: yeah, sometimes
  John Cardozo: it's all fine.
  William Taveras: it's like a little bit rushed.
  John Ford: I thought that was good though, because if you're given too much time
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  John Ford: then you got nothing
  John Cardozo: yeah,
  John Ford: to do with your time and
  John Cardozo: yeah.
  John Ford: um yeah. Although we could have made the R_s better had we had
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  John Ford: five more minute.
  William Battee: Okay then. Um I think we're still well within our
  William Taveras: Yeah, we've got like
  William Battee: time.
  William Taveras: five minutes left.
  William Battee: We've got about five minutes left, but if we've finished, then we've finished.
  John Cardozo: Yeah.
  William Battee: We're just too too efficient and
  John Ford: We certainly
  William Taveras: Yeah.
  William Battee: you should
  John Ford: are,
  William Battee: never
  John Ford: mm.
  William Battee: drag a meeting on just because you have extra time.
  John Ford: Yeah.
  John Cardozo: Yes.
  William Battee: So I would say that's the end of that meeting.
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Battee: Thank
  William Taveras: 'Kay.
  John Cardozo: it
  William Battee: you,
  John Cardozo: was a
  William Battee: team.
  John Cardozo: pleasure working with you.
  William Battee: It was
  John Ford: Yeah, same here.
  William Battee: very productive day
  William Taveras: We
  William Battee: and
  William Taveras: could draw animals on the board again.
  John Ford: Mm uh no.
  William Battee: Mm uh
  John Ford: I don't
  William Battee: no.
  John Ford: think so.
  John Cardozo: You can make some animals.
  William Taveras: I
  John Cardozo: Oh,
  William Taveras: don't
  John Cardozo: you
  William Taveras: like
  John Cardozo: don't
  William Taveras: Play-Doh,
  John Cardozo: like
  William Taveras: no.
  John Cardozo: anim
  William Taveras: It's just minging. It smells so bad.
  John Cardozo: It doesn't?
  William Taveras: It
  John Cardozo: Smells
  William Taveras: does.
  John Cardozo: quite nice. Smells very sweet.
  William Taveras: Mm.
  William Battee: Right, so we have to complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary when they
  John Ford: Was there a
  William Battee: send
  John Ford: questionnaire
  William Battee: it.
  John Ford: already sent?
  William Battee: I don't know if it's already sent or
  William Taveras: No,
  William Battee: not.
  William Taveras: it hasn't been.
  William Battee: Um presumably I
  William Taveras: Do
  William Battee: have
  William Taveras: we have
  William Battee: to
  William Taveras: to go back into the other room or can we stay in here now?
  William Battee: I don't see why you can't stay here, really.
  William Taveras: Okay, so the other way.
  William Battee: Did I save this one? Production costs.
  John Cardozo: I made your animal for you.
  William Battee: It was supposed to be pink.
  John Cardozo: Yeah,
  William Battee: But
  John Cardozo: that's
  William Battee: it was blue
  John Cardozo: the
  William Battee: on
  John Cardozo: one
  William Battee: the board.
Updated Content: William Battee opens this detailed design meeting by going over the agenda. The designers present the prototype, which they decided to make the color and shape of a banana. They demonstrate the remote components, showing how it flips open on the side and features a LCD and scroll inside. William Taveras gives the product evaluation, which is based on the criteria of attractiveness, whether it matches operation behavior of the user, locatability, intuitiveness, ergonomic design, and how technologically innovative it is. They rate the product using a 7 point scale and come up with an average score of 6.5. The group goes on to calculate the production cost and finds they are over the budget. They have discussion and decide to eliminate the sample speaker locator and the scroll wheel inside. The team discusses the project process- saying that they had to cut out some creativity in order to meet the budget because they had not known the cost of features beforehand. They were satisfied with the leadership but felt rushed for time. They finish the meeting 5 minutes early and William Battee tells them what is left to complete.