Extracted Content: Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Andrew White: Okay everyone's ready.
  Justin Pham: Hello.
  Andrew White: So we are here uh for uh functional design. Okay? So we are here for the functional design meeting mm so first I will show the agenda so we will uh I will take notes during this meeting so I will try to summarise it and put that summary in the shared folder if you want to look at it afterwards so then uh each of you will uh lead a presentation on the task that has been required last time so user requirement specification, technical design and Then I will uh present you some new project requirements I received from uh the management board. Then we will take uh the decision on on the remote control uh needed functions and then I will assign you the task for the next part of the meeting. Of the of the process. So uh who want to start the the presentation of what they did?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: F do you want to start
  Justin Pham: Make a start yeah.
  Andrew White: You can start.
  Justin Pham: So Cable, camera.
  Andrew White: You have uh PowerPoint?
  Justin Pham: Should be in my in their folder no?
  Andrew White: Ah yeah maybe there.
  Justin Pham: Up.
  Andrew White: Okay. Who are you?
  Justin Pham: Um at three I think. No? Mm.
  Andrew White: Ouch. And
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Andrew White: We have a technical problem uh.
  Justin Pham: Do we think w s in the in the wrong folder maybe? It is possible.
  Andrew White: You put
  Andrew Gabbamonte: No.
  Andrew White: it on
  Justin Pham: It was somewhere in something like this. I don't remember the name actually must be something like messenger AMI or something.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: What do you have in short cut?
  Justin Pham: Go up.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Participant two.
  Justin Pham: Yeah go up.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Again. No. Go back.
  Andrew White: You have no
  Justin Pham: Uh maybe messenger Messenger.
  Andrew White: Over. Okay.
  Justin Pham: No. There is nothing.
  Andrew White: There's no We have a
  Justin Pham: Let's
  Andrew White: technical
  Justin Pham: go and check.
  Andrew White: problem.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: I'll
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Otherwise,
  Justin Pham: go and check.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: could you just describe by hand?
  Justin Pham: Okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: With the the whiteboard?
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: If you remember yeah
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: but
  Justin Pham: So
  Andrew White: that's
  Justin Pham: uh. Basically what we want here is a remote control right.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: So um the question well first of all what to control. So most people want to have a a remote for their hi-fi and T_V_ and stuff like that.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Justin Pham: And but other people want th also remotes for controlling uh and toys like robotic pets and
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Justin Pham: little robots and stuff and other people also want to have remotes for controlling um whole house.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Yeah, so there's a project I think called X_ house or something like that that does that, uh you can integrate your remote with uh computers stuff.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Justin Pham: So there is one that is one thing. The other is the the finder feature yeah by whistling or whatever. Uh
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Justin Pham: if you have the finder feature then you can also have uh at the same time as and general voice commands if you want yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Justin Pham: So I think it should be a package in that case. Uh so the user interface will consist of two parts. One is the voice command part and on one is the actual buttons part. Uh and th the buttons part would be uh a set of buttons for choosing devices,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Justin Pham: a set of buttons for special navigation in space,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Justin Pham: a set of buttons for linear access of medium and a set of buttons for random access.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: Yeah?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: What do you mean by linear access then?
  Justin Pham: Like a video tape goes forward, backwards,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Ah.
  Justin Pham: uh fast and stuff yeah. Um.
  Andrew White: Okay so special navigation, linear access, random access and there's a fourth one no?
  Justin Pham: Mm?
  Andrew White: So the better now for special navigation?
  Justin Pham: Yeah. For special navigation for example you might have a T_V_ in the menu and you going to
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: change yeah?
  Andrew White: Then linear
  Justin Pham: Uh.
  Andrew White: access then
  Justin Pham: Mm.
  Andrew White: random access.
  Justin Pham: Yeah and also parameter
  Andrew White: Ah yeah
  Justin Pham: changing.
  Andrew White: parameter okay.
  Justin Pham: So if there are common parameters maybe we should put special buttons for that
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: um or maybe we could have everything uh generic but uh there are a lot of uh remotes on the market right now
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: and basically this is most of the almost everybody has this stuff.
  Andrew White: Okay and and voice command did you uh
  Justin Pham: Voice command w we could specify anything. We could assign
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: any button a command to any button,
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: if we have enough processing power, I guess so. Yeah.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: So that's uh that close your investigations?
  Justin Pham: Yeah. Uh
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: yeah I think so. Not so far.
  Andrew White: Okay. Maybe we can have a look at the user requirements with
  Chung Allen: Yeah. Um I dunno if you open
  Andrew White: I dunno if
  Chung Allen: the
  Andrew White: I can open
  Chung Allen: uh
  Andrew White: it. Maybe you
  Chung Allen: m
  Andrew White: can
  Chung Allen: is
  Andrew White: s
  Chung Allen: not here.
  Andrew White: It's
  Chung Allen: Uh in yeah okay.
  Andrew White: Messenger
  Chung Allen: No.
  Andrew White: no?
  Chung Allen: In document. Mm computer yeah.
  Andrew White: In which folder?
  Justin Pham: Where did you put it?
  Chung Allen: Here. Here.
  Andrew White: Short-cut to
  Justin Pham: mm.
  Andrew White: AMI
  Chung Allen: But it's
  Andrew White: shared
  Chung Allen: not
  Andrew White: folder?
  Chung Allen: Um.
  Andrew White: Maybe you can send it to Chung Allen by email. Just to participant one. At AMI.
  Chung Allen: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can do that.
  Andrew White: I will try to show it to everyone, that would be more comfortable.
  Chung Allen: Okay. Um.
  Andrew White: You send it?
  Chung Allen: It's participant one?
  Andrew White: Yeah. Uh this is this email.
  Justin Pham: I'm designing the user interface.
  Chung Allen: Okay. You can uh.
  Andrew White: Okay. So maybe I can switch slides when you
  Chung Allen: Yeah.
  Andrew White: whenever you ask, that will be more convenient. So okay,
  Chung Allen: Okay
  Andrew White: functional
  Chung Allen: so
  Andrew White: requirements.
  Chung Allen: you can you can go. Okay so in our usability lab we observed the remote control use among one hundred subjects
  Andrew White: Mm. Yeah.
  Chung Allen: okay? And here I have the results so you can see that um seventy five per cent of users find most remote controls ugly so we have to find something to make them more more nice, more kind. Eighty per cents of users would spend more money when the remote control would look fancy. Eighty hundred per cent of users would spend more money when the remote control would look oh to it's not good. So okay. So
  Andrew White: We
  Chung Allen: it's
  Andrew White: can
  Chung Allen: not
  Andrew White: just
  Chung Allen: in
  Andrew White: keep
  Chung Allen: theory
  Andrew White: doing
  Chung Allen: but
  Andrew White: that?
  Chung Allen: I I can I can say yeah.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: Fifty f uh seventy five per cent of users say they s zap a lot. So mm we have to have a remote control uh very um out for that. Uh the buttons have are to be um uh uh like you say resist resisting to to shocks.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: Um and fifty per cents of users say they only use uh ten per cents of but of the buttons in the
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: in the remote control. So all the buttons we we have to put are have to to have um a use a real use and not
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: only or
  Andrew White: Okay, so fewer buttons maybe
  Chung Allen: Yeah.
  Andrew White: would be
  Chung Allen: F
  Andrew White: good?
  Chung Allen: not many buttons, and uh and uh uh u useable buttons.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: But what kind of remote controls did you look at?
  Chung Allen: Sorry?
  Justin Pham: What kind of task was it? It was a T_V_?
  Chung Allen: Yeah. Uh
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: most for most is T_V_.
  Andrew White: Yeah but in fact we it it seems that we are going to make a T_V_ remote control according
  Justin Pham: Huh.
  Andrew White: to new requirements I received from the management
  Justin Pham: Uh-huh.
  Andrew White: bo I will present them in the following.
  Justin Pham: Ah! Good.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: 'Kay you can go so. So there are other frustrations expressed by users, so they said uh they lost uh often the remote control in in the
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: room so they want to have a way to to
  Andrew White: To find
  Chung Allen: to
  Andrew White: it.
  Chung Allen: find it.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: Um and um lot of the time they it takes too much time to learn how to use
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: a new remote control. So they want something s
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Chung Allen: really very simple and uh
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: easy to use. And uh remote controls are bad for
  Andrew White: What
  Chung Allen: R_S_I_
  Andrew White: is her other side?
  Chung Allen: um I
  Justin Pham: Other
  Chung Allen: dunno.
  Justin Pham: side yeah, yo wa your wrist. It i can become painful you can have tendonditis.
  Andrew White: Oh yeah?
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: I did not knew that.
  Justin Pham: If you also up on a computer in a strange position.
  Andrew White: Okay so you we have to make it uh more
  Justin Pham: Ergonomic.
  Andrew White: ergonomic yeah.
  Justin Pham: But uh. Have
  Chung Allen: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: to say ha ha.
  Andrew White: It's your job Oh.
  Chung Allen: Uh.
  Andrew White: Uh sorry got a message from Microsoft.
  Chung Allen: Okay um before that I I have some some some thing
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: uh to say before
  Andrew White: Yeah yeah.
  Chung Allen: um We know that uh the user use uh a lot their um remote control um to to change channel.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: Um and um to to change uh volume selection of
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: the and uh and not uh a lot for setting for
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: setting the the channels and uh
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Chung Allen: thing things like that.
  Justin Pham: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: So it's better to put uh uh uh something very easy to set and uh
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: and
  Andrew White: This function should be very
  Chung Allen: Very
  Andrew White: uh accessible.
  Chung Allen: accessible yes.
  Andrew White: Yeah, okay.
  Chung Allen: That's right.
  Andrew White: This is the main function okay.
  Chung Allen: So then we asked some questions to them and
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: um we asked this question if
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: they prefer an L_C_D_ screen or on their remultific function remotes control and if they mm pay more for speech recognition in remote control
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: and you can go we have here the results of
  Justin Pham: The first question.
  Chung Allen: of the questions. So you know that um for the younger it's very important
  Andrew White: To have L_C_D_
  Chung Allen: to have
  Andrew White: and
  Chung Allen: the
  Andrew White: voice.
  Chung Allen: s yes and speech recognition. And uh and the others is not so important but uh we know that uh uh people between fifteen and twenty five are people who watch a lot T_V_ and uh who who wh can use a lot this uh.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: So maybe we we can have a speech
  Andrew White: Yeah maybe
  Chung Allen: recognition
  Andrew White: this this
  Chung Allen: in.
  Andrew White: is important.
  Chung Allen: Yeah.
  Andrew White: Moreover th maybe those uh like those teenager customer could advice their parents to buy this equipment and
  Justin Pham: Mm.
  Andrew White: so we can we have to take care of that point of view I think or so.
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: Okay and if there is th the conclusion now. So as we say before, I think uh um a remote control lightening in the dark it's it's a good thing.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: Uh not to many mud buttons like we we said before, e
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Chung Allen: easy to use uh a way to find it easily in the room and uh uh resistant to to shock and to
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Chung Allen: to
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: An I s no,
  Andrew White: Okay
  Chung Allen: yeah.
  Andrew White: these are the user
  Chung Allen: I dunno
  Andrew White: requi
  Chung Allen: if you see something else important or
  Andrew Gabbamonte: I'm just thinking of some thing.
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Um We want to have a no, I know if a idea. We want to have a a general remote control for everything.
  Andrew White: No no no. We w it seems that we no want to have a T_V_ remote control.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Andrew White: From
  Justin Pham: Mm.
  Andrew White: the management board I receive
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Andrew White: an email. Cos it would be costly uh and and also it it would take more time to develop to
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Andrew White: have
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah
  Andrew White: a
  Andrew Gabbamonte: yeah.
  Andrew White: a general generic remote
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Andrew White: control.
  Justin Pham: Mm I it's not true I think. The
  Andrew Gabbamonte: No no.
  Justin Pham: the second claim that you put.
  Andrew White: That it would be too long to
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: develop.
  Justin Pham: I think that should be the same.
  Andrew White: Oh yeah. Because I received that email from management board and they seems to tell that that if we want to be on the market as early as possible we should uh focus on T_V_ more where it seems that the market is more important. So maybe it's a good decision. I dunno. What's your
  Justin Pham: I have
  Andrew White: opinion?
  Justin Pham: uh I've no idea I mean I should know a bit more about how fast we can uh design it. I don't think Uh yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Finish tonight.
  Justin Pham: Yeah. Okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: But basically yeah
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: maybe I can continue with my presentation, it would be
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: al
  Chung Allen: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: you
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: you but I think we have some technical problem or so. So I'm just going to describe briefly what we do in the remote control.
  Andrew White: Maybe
  Andrew Gabbamonte: If
  Andrew White: you can
  Andrew Gabbamonte: fact
  Andrew White: go to the whiteboard if you have some drawings to do I
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah
  Andrew White: don't
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: know.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: but Do I have oh yeah. Now I have enough cables.
  Justin Pham: Like a you feel a bit like a dog with this stuff.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay so I'm just going to describe in fact for for a remote control this is quite easy. We just have sorry, I'm going
  Andrew White: Okay. Are you okay?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Like that. I'm just going to describe. Basically we have a a battery a power supply here. After that we just have um user interface. Let's say that um something like that, which could be um a L_C_D_ let's say or um an array of push button, something like that. Push button or a L_C_D_. After that we we feed that into um uh an electronic chip. So I say U_C_ and I feed that to uh L_E_D_ which is uh infrared um which is a an infrared um component. And so what we for for myself this for for us this is quite easy.
  Andrew White: U_C_ is the central unit?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Andrew White: Okay
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Y
  Andrew White: yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: it's a it's this just a chip which does all the um numerical
  Andrew White: Computation.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: numerical computation
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: according to your display. And so for us uh this is quite easy. We just need to take to define what we want to do when the user interface um wants something and after that we just do the coding to s and send that to to to the not the to the television.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: So for us this is quite easy.
  Andrew White: Okay so this is quite easy.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah. Um
  Andrew White: There is not that much
  Andrew Gabbamonte: we just
  Andrew White: constraints.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: have to define the processing power that we need uh especially if we want to do some uh speech recognition, in that case that mean that we are going to use more
  Justin Pham: This
  Andrew Gabbamonte: for simple
  Justin Pham: will think this will take more time to develop
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah
  Justin Pham: also.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: of course of
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: course. And um but for a standard one this is really easy. It's a question of one
  Justin Pham: Soon.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: month and so
  Andrew White: To
  Andrew Gabbamonte: on
  Andrew White: have a
  Andrew Gabbamonte: s
  Andrew White: you s you speak about with voi voice control?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: No no no no, I say
  Andrew White: Standard button one.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: yeah standard uh standard remote control takes maybe uh one month to to do that.
  Justin Pham: Yeah. So the only time problem is the sp voice recognition.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Definitely.
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: So do you have any idea of how long it would take to have voice recognition now?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: I would say.
  Justin Pham: Ten years.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: I would say uh about eight months to have the first results.
  Andrew White: Okay so i it's a bit long yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah. I can Um.
  Andrew White: One month for the standard one with button.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Andrew White: Even if we have a L_C_D_ display?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah even. I mean that this is really standard devices now. Um eight. For uh speech recognition.
  Andrew White: Okay yeah. Okay so we can take this into account. So who think it would be good to go for uh like speech recognition?
  Justin Pham: But we don't have time to market.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: And also
  Andrew White: Yeah it
  Andrew Gabbamonte: how
  Andrew White: will.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: much uh I think
  Justin Pham: I think we should contact
  Andrew Gabbamonte: during
  Justin Pham: management.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: the kickoff meeting you say that we we shouldn't we shouldn't go up to twelve point five Euro
  Andrew White: Euros.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: per
  Andrew White: Yeah,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: unit
  Andrew White: yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: so how many units should we sell to have a
  Justin Pham: Well.
  Andrew White: Well
  Justin Pham: Uh
  Andrew White: each unit is is sell uh twenty five Euros.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah but how many yeah.
  Justin Pham: How muc how much do you get how much do you if you buy one million units h no, one hundred thousand units. Eh chips. We're gonna need chips right.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Yeah. How much will it cost for one hundred thousand?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Usually this is less tha at two dollars per chip.
  Justin Pham: Okay.
  Andrew White: Because
  Justin Pham: So
  Andrew White: we
  Justin Pham: you
  Andrew White: are
  Justin Pham: have any idea for a powerful one that has uh good enough for do speech recognition.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah,
  Justin Pham: Yeah? Okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: we can
  Justin Pham: So. No
  Andrew White: It
  Justin Pham: it
  Andrew White: seems
  Justin Pham: doesn't.
  Andrew White: that that we want to sell like four million units from the
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: first meeting.
  Justin Pham: Okay. Four million.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Um I just had a question uh do you want to continue with your presenta?
  Andrew White: Yeah
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Is
  Andrew White: I
  Andrew Gabbamonte: it
  Andrew White: I will continue. Well ask your question if you want.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Um you say that I don't remember by heart but thirty per cent
  Chung Allen: Mm?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: of the tested people say that's it's quite difficult to to to use the remote control.
  Chung Allen: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Do they say that this is difficult but for the same reason or do they have other reason?
  Chung Allen: Oh.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: To to
  Chung Allen: Would j
  Andrew Gabbamonte: maybe to keep in mind maybe to access to that menu you should do something like
  Chung Allen: Uh
  Andrew Gabbamonte: that.
  Chung Allen: yeah w I I think they they say that it's uh difficult to learn how to use it
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Chung Allen: but i when you know how to use it,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Chung Allen: it's it's
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Chung Allen: okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: And
  Chung Allen: But
  Andrew White: It's not intuitive first.
  Chung Allen: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: But yeah maybe and what about if we design a remote control which can be configure as you want? You say that I want, I have six
  Justin Pham: Mh-hmm.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: button
  Justin Pham: A a lot of people are uh if you have the L_C_D_ screen
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: if you can
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: do it completely the way you want because the buttons also look
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: the way
  Andrew White: But,
  Justin Pham: you want them
  Andrew White: but also
  Justin Pham: but
  Andrew White: it seems
  Justin Pham: it will be
  Andrew White: that
  Justin Pham: hard to configure I mean imagine
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: i uh so it's really something for the expert user.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Justin Pham: So I mean there are markets and markets. I think the young people are th uh are uh Christine here said uh
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: you have a
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: uh it is yeah. So for our young people uh it will be cool, they can be able to use it. Th maybe their parents will not but they will configure it. I guess.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: Maybe it would be more complex to
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: configure it
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah. Yeah.
  Andrew White: to be simple
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Mm.
  Andrew White: than
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: creating a simple product.
  Justin Pham: And there
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: are another thing is that if we make something that's simple and easy to use that's bas to use immediately that means that it will be exactly the same as everything else.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: All right?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Otherwise, if it's different then of course everybody has somebody has to learn to use it first.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Andrew White: Yeah. But also we we see that that most people find it find remote controls too complex because they have too many buttons and they mainly use only channels
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: and
  Justin Pham: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: volume buttons. So we may just uh make a very easy to use remote control with mainly those buttons
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: and maybe also um some lightning stuff too because most people find also hard to to find the remote control. Losed
  Justin Pham: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: lose it etcetera. These these are these two points are the main frustrations so maybe if we design something very simple and easy to uh find when lost it will uh add uh a serious competitive advantage without
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: making something too complex and too long to develop.
  Justin Pham: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: So but le let us see first the new requirement. So we don't have to so this this uh is uh is um in the this is in the same direction as we were speaking so we don't have to make a very complex remote controls to access teletext and stuff like that
  Justin Pham: But teletext is just one button.
  Andrew White: Yeah but then you have to you have to define the buttons to surf
  Justin Pham: You
  Andrew White: amongst
  Justin Pham: you
  Andrew White: pages
  Justin Pham: just write
  Andrew White: and stuff.
  Justin Pham: the write the numbers.
  Andrew White: Yeah. So
  Justin Pham: So will
  Andrew White: well
  Justin Pham: you add with the channel keys, right?
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: So.
  Andrew White: So anyway we don't have to include this feature because it's it's not used any more by users, they prefer to s
  Justin Pham: I am. I'm sure that uh it don't like but uh I don't see just one button.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: So.
  Andrew White: I dunno. If i one button is still one more button. If if if we want to make it very simple we have to reduce number of buttons compared to th to our competitors.
  Justin Pham: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: Well anyway I have this point. We can discuss. Also um so as as I told before uh it would be better if it's only for the T_V_ um because we want to be quick on on the market. And then also we have to make very uh uh clear that this uh this remote control is is part of of our products and show our corporate uh logo and and colours on the on the design as well so that uh they identify it as one of our product. So this is the the key point. So before uh finishing we can uh define uh what would be the characteristic of the o th of the control of the remote control and which button do we need which function do we want etcetera.
  Justin Pham: Capital.
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: So do you um so so from from the Chung Allen I think a key aspect is the easy to use aspect, it should be
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: very simple and most button are never used only ten per cent of the button are are used often so I think we have to do something very simple and I think we all agree on that point,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: no?
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Justin Pham: Well if it is going to be just a T_V_ remote control it is going to be very simple.
  Andrew White: Yeah okay. So yeah the key point here is simple. Maybe. So few buttons, channel, volume control and what el what function do you see
  Justin Pham: Well if it's
  Andrew White: in addition
  Justin Pham: going to
  Andrew White: to
  Justin Pham: be
  Andrew White: that?
  Justin Pham: as simple as possible then just have the remote control, there is no other function that I can see really.
  Andrew White: Yeah. Maybe switch T_V_ on and off
  Justin Pham: Uh no you want to keep television on so that the advertising can revenue can come back to us. Or
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: something.
  Andrew White: Yeah. Volume, maybe a mute button, and then
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm.
  Andrew White: on off button. And that's all?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Uh I know that som you say that many people are doing plenty of a lot of zapping.
  Chung Allen: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: Mm.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: I know tha I discovered that when I did a quick look, uh they do now som they do something which is quite nice now,
  Justin Pham: It's
  Andrew Gabbamonte: you have a
  Justin Pham: a
  Andrew Gabbamonte: button,
  Justin Pham: memory,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: you
  Justin Pham: yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: you press it, and this is uh the previous channel which
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: has come back.
  Andrew White: Yeah this is cool. Maybe we can include that also. Previous previous channel button. So we have like channel button, the previous channel button, the
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: volume button, plus a mute button,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: and uh just the the traditional on off
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: button.
  Justin Pham: And uh and of course the channel changing buttons.
  Andrew White: Yeah. I I talk
  Justin Pham: How
  Andrew White: about that,
  Justin Pham: should they
  Andrew White: yeah?
  Justin Pham: how should we implement that? Because uh could be numerical only or could be also incremental.
  Andrew White: Yeah. Incremental definitely because zapping you you switch
  Justin Pham: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: them.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Let's say that we can do something like that. This is uh incremental, but once you press it for a long time, you go five by five.
  Andrew White: We go
  Andrew Gabbamonte: To
  Andrew White: faster?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: go fa to go faster.
  Andrew White: Mm.
  Justin Pham: Mm. It's an interesting idea, that if you press it for a long time it does something else, in general. So if you you have your ten buttons for the for the numeric the numerical buttons and you have instead of having just one memory
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: you have if you press them for a long time No. Doesn't work does it.
  Andrew White: Maybe we should have also a digit
  Justin Pham: Maybe
  Andrew White: button
  Justin Pham: we should have a complete keyboard and just type console commands.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Change channel to eight. No.
  Andrew White: Maybe we have also to have digits or only incremental. I dunno bec because
  Justin Pham: Well
  Andrew White: if
  Justin Pham: if
  Andrew White: you
  Justin Pham: it's
  Andrew White: have the
  Justin Pham: useful like if if you want to change between three channels for example then you h
  Andrew White: Uh.
  Justin Pham: you cannot you cannot cannot work with just memory being incremental.
  Andrew White: Yeah. Because you have your previous channel button if you have incremental only it's
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Andrew White: not uh it isn't worth it because the previous channel is eith either minus one or plus one.
  Justin Pham: Yeah. Yeah.
  Andrew White: So I think we need also digits.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Andrew White: Maybe we we can make very obvious the channel and volume button button and smaller button down there with the the digits.
  Justin Pham: Yeah when you zap usually you will have to press the same button all the time
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: and
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Or we can do something like that. We can
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: design the remote control to have access. You know some remote control have uh protection
  Justin Pham: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: and so you you y
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Hey
  Andrew Gabbamonte: You
  Justin Pham: I just thought this thing there is a I mean you know there is are some with a wheel like this. Instead of having the up down buttons for
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: uh
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah,
  Justin Pham: you can have
  Andrew Gabbamonte: a kind
  Justin Pham: the wheel.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: of joystick.
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: Yeah. Maybe we can have a wheel for incremental.
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: Okay. So have a wheel for incremental, have the digits uh on the lower side that can be closed so as
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: you say protected,
  Justin Pham: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: and uh yeah I think this is
  Justin Pham: On
  Andrew White: the
  Justin Pham: the lower
  Andrew White: basi
  Justin Pham: side I think it you have to turn it. No?
  Andrew White: And do
  Justin Pham: If
  Andrew White: we
  Justin Pham: we do
  Andrew White: do
  Justin Pham: that.
  Andrew White: we have a
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Or a or a ball, yeah, not a a wheel but a ball, and you say uh
  Andrew White: No, a wheel is
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: to
  Andrew White: better. I would say the wheel is better.
  Justin Pham: Because
  Andrew White: What
  Justin Pham: of
  Andrew White: is
  Justin Pham: that
  Andrew White: the expert of uh
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Because it's uh it's it's not like a volume which is smooth yeah? The channels change one by one.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: So you have to the user has to like to should feel the the
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah,
  Justin Pham: the discrete
  Andrew Gabbamonte: the yeah.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: sense a bit.
  Andrew White: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: That's a good idea. Well also we have to decide uh so it should be lightening in the dark I think because most people lost their remote
  Andrew Gabbamonte: 'S quite
  Andrew White: control.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: it's quite easy we do
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: that w with back light on
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: the
  Justin Pham: Even
  Andrew Gabbamonte: on
  Justin Pham: if
  Andrew Gabbamonte: the
  Justin Pham: i
  Andrew Gabbamonte: wheel.
  Justin Pham: L_E_D_ uh or a if if it's the L_C_D_
  Andrew Gabbamonte: A blue
  Justin Pham: feature uh
  Andrew Gabbamonte: a blue L_E_D_
  Justin Pham: whatever,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: and
  Justin Pham: yeah.
  Andrew White: Yeah,
  Andrew Gabbamonte: we sell that
  Andrew White: and
  Andrew Gabbamonte: um.
  Andrew White: do we put
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: an L_C_D_ display? Because it was important for young customers if you remember.
  Justin Pham: I think it's only put on if cou have multi function.
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Yeah.
  Justin Pham: If you do not multi function then there is no p point in having L_C_D_. Just increase the cost.
  Andrew White: Okay.
  Justin Pham: The user does not have an advantage really.
  Andrew White: So no L_C_D_?
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Chung Allen: Hmm.
  Andrew White: And so no speech as well because it w it would delay too much the
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Andrew White: development
  Justin Pham: Well if it's going
  Andrew White: process.
  Justin Pham: to delay yeah but uh it will be cool. It would. Because a user could say C_N_N_ for example and it would go
  Chung Allen: Mm-hmm.
  Justin Pham: C_N_N_. Mm.
  Andrew White: Yeah. That would be cool. But
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: eight months is really long and Maybe we can just uh
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Ten years
  Andrew White: Okay. So um I I will uh I will so I we will move to next meeting so in after the lunch break
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Mm-hmm.
  Andrew White: uh here are the individual uh action uh you are required to do but you will be uh recalled to the actions by uh email I think but you can take notes if you if you want but well the instruction will be sent. So thank you for uh your
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Andrew White: suggestion and I I will make a summary of that meeting that I will put in the shared folder you
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Andrew White: can't see
  Andrew Gabbamonte: Okay.
  Andrew White: and uh and then you will um you will be able to to see what has been uh has been said on on this meeting and and what has been decided. Uh maybe for next meeting uh send Chung Allen your presentation before by email so that we can see them uh altogether.
  Justin Pham: Yeah.
  Andrew White: That
  Chung Allen: Mm.
  Andrew White: would be easier.
  Justin Pham: What is the folder that you put yours in? And did it it did work?
  Chung Allen: No.
  Andrew White: No it did
  Chung Allen: No
  Andrew White: not
  Chung Allen: no.
  Andrew White: work. She send
  Justin Pham: Ah
  Andrew White: it
  Justin Pham: yeah.
  Chung Allen: I dunno,
  Andrew White: to Chung Allen by
  Justin Pham: Mm.
  Andrew White: email.
  Chung Allen: I dunno it.
  Justin Pham: Okay.
  Andrew White: So maybe this is better, to send it by email.
  Justin Pham: Okay what
  Andrew White: Okay?
  Justin Pham: is your email?
  Andrew White: So yeah I I'm it's in the first uh email so I'm participant one
  Justin Pham: At participant
  Andrew White: at AMI
  Justin Pham: one. Okay.
  Andrew White: uh where is that, it's here. Participant one at AMI. Okay. So see you after lunch break.
  Chung Allen: 'Kay
  Justin Pham: Well
  Chung Allen: thank
  Justin Pham: during
  Chung Allen: you.
  Justin Pham: lunch break actually.
  Justin Pham: So next time we should have a fight. How about uh management or something. Who happens to be your friend.
Updated Content: Justin Pham presented the major components of the interface design, dividing the interface into two parts: voice commands and buttons. Chung Allen went over users' requirements as seen in a company study and showed that the major complaint was that remotes were too difficult to use. She also showed that users want fancier and more ergonomic designs, shock protection, voice recognition, and LCD screens. Andrew White announced a new requirement to the group, that the remote is only to control televisions. Andrew Gabbamonte gave a layout of the internal functions of the device and showed that a standard chip, instead of a larger one that would accomodate voice recognition, would be the most feasible. Andrew White announced also that the group was not to include a teletext function and that they should integrate the company logo into the external design. The group decided on what button functions should be included and decided to eliminate the LCD screen and voice recognition from the design due to time and cost restraints.