Extracted Content: Kenneth Soukup: Okay um, welcome to our detailed design meeting I'm. pretty excited. Let's start it's approximately fifteen forty or something like that. Okay um the agenda we're gonna do an opening and then um I'll talk about the minutes from the last meeting, what we d discussed um, then we'll have the prototype presentation and a look at the evaluation criteria. We'll look at the finances and finally a do a production evaluation and close. So, starting off with the um last the last one, oh I don't have it here um, but we talked about energy, we're gonna use a kinetic battery um, we want to use a simple chip, because we're not gonna need a a shuffle um, we're gonna need a scroll um, we're choosing a latex case w in fruity colours that's curved and um we're using push buttons uh with a supplement of an on-screen menu. And it sounded like we had set um like eight or nine buttons, including five pre-set channels. Okay? Let's do the look and feel design presentation first.
  Phillip Osborn: Right, do you wanna start?
  Eric Bravo: Right, well we made three different prototypes and I guess we'll start with with this one. Um we have our colours not are not fixed, but this is the general shape. Um it's you hold it sort of either like like this in your left hand or you switch it over and uh it's easily adaptable to either hand. You can push the buttons with your thumb like a mobile phone, or you can push them with your index finger of your other hand, or even mean there's whole variety, you can hold it like this and press it with your same index finger. Uh we have the on off button at the tip, very visible, very big. We have our up and down buttons, which are also gonna be our channel selectors, and we have our little menu button here. If you push if you're just pushing these normally, they're the menu buttons, if uh the volume buttons rather. If you press select once, they become channel changing buttons. If we press select three times, the menu with the other features and pro possibly also with your T_V_ channel choices shows up, and you have your five presets down here. Um if people wanna grab hold of that, see how it feels in your hand. That's our number one prototype. Um do you wanna present the potato,
  Kenneth Soukup: like a little
  Eric Bravo: or
  Kenneth Soukup: lightning
  Eric Bravo: shall I
  Phillip Osborn: Okay,
  Eric Bravo: present
  Kenneth Soukup: in it.
  Eric Bravo: the Martian?
  Phillip Osborn: um
  Kenneth Soukup: The little lightning bolt in it,
  Phillip Osborn: What
  Kenneth Soukup: very cute.
  Phillip Osborn: We call that one
  Joseph Roche: I could
  Phillip Osborn: the rhombus, uh
  Kenneth Soukup: The v the rhombus
  Phillip Osborn: the rhombus.
  Eric Bravo: That's
  Kenneth Soukup: rhombus?
  Eric Bravo: the rhombus, yep.
  Phillip Osborn: Um this one is known as the potato, uh it's it's a how can I present it? It's an ergonomic shape, so it it fits in your hand nicely. Um it's designed to be used either in your left hand or or in your right hand. Um I've gone here just for just for four buttons on this one. Um two here for adjusting. So you've got volume up and volume down on the other side here. Um the red ones are for uh changing channels, channel up and channel down and that's um moves between your favourite channels that you've selected. Uh this middle button here brings up the on-screen menu and when you're working in the on-screen menu you use the other four buttons to navigate around the menu system and the middle button uh to select and that's basically it, that's the potato.
  Kenneth Soukup: Um on, off?
  Phillip Osborn: Uh that would be one of your channels, basically, so
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Phillip Osborn: like channel zero would be t to switch
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah we turn
  Phillip Osborn: switch
  Kenneth Soukup: it off.
  Phillip Osborn: the machine off, yeah.
  Joseph Roche: Could the middle button of the on-screen menu function as a power button?
  Phillip Osborn: Um not really, it would make it hard to turn
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Osborn: the machine off, to turn your T_V_ off.
  Eric Bravo: If you pressed and held it maybe.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah
  Joseph Roche: If you like
  Phillip Osborn: yeah,
  Joseph Roche: held
  Phillip Osborn: that
  Joseph Roche: it down,
  Phillip Osborn: that'd be one
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: way of doing it, yeah.
  Joseph Roche: that would be
  Phillip Osborn: That'd
  Joseph Roche: on
  Phillip Osborn: work,
  Eric Bravo: On
  Joseph Roche: off.
  Eric Bravo: off, that's
  Phillip Osborn: yeah.
  Eric Bravo: a possibility, yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Eric Bravo: And then finally we have um the Martian or the pear, either way. Um it's a bit different, just a little bit more of a creative feel. Uh you have the on off toggle stem on the top. We have the five preset seeds. And then you have on the sides to make it a little bit more three-dimensional, you have your channel changing, volume changing buttons and your menu button right here in the middle. So, that's for your consideration as well,
  Phillip Osborn: Let's pass.
  Eric Bravo: plus it's an interesting talking point to have standing up. We figured it could stand up like this on your table,
  Kenneth Soukup: Uh-huh.
  Eric Bravo: if you wanted it to, if I made the bot the bottom flat.
  Joseph Roche: Sorry, what's the yellow one in the middle, I forgot.
  Eric Bravo: Uh the menu select button.
  Kenneth Soukup: Very interesting. I
  Phillip Osborn: So that's
  Kenneth Soukup: think that one's my favourite.
  Phillip Osborn: So that's our three prototypes. Um basically, in terms of making decisions, what we'd need to do is first of all decide on a form uh which of the three different shapes we want, then decide what kind of button layout we want, how many buttons, and then to choose what colours we want to make the buttons and if we wanna put any text on the device, like label on the buttons or put a brand name or or
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Osborn: a logo on it or whatever.
  Eric Bravo: We were we were thinking that normally we'd go for fruity colours, but maybe we're also thinking that your sort of middle aged man, for an example customer, might not want a fruity coloured remote, so m maybe we'd have one version that's a bit toned down,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm 'kay.
  Eric Bravo: maybe with with less contrasts on it. Yeah,
  Phillip Osborn: Would
  Eric Bravo: something still a little bright to make it
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah,
  Eric Bravo: hard to lose, but
  Phillip Osborn: but we don't want it to look like a kids' toy.
  Eric Bravo: yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Now that was one thing that we brought up over email. I don't know if you picked up your email,
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: but um the f the um feature that we considered for it not getting lost.
  Eric Bravo: Right. Well we were we were talking about that a little bit when we got that email and we think that each of these are so distinctive, that it it's not just like another piece of technology around your house. It's gonna be somewhere that it can be seen.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: So we're we're not thinking that it's gonna be as critical
  Joseph Roche: But if it's like under
  Eric Bravo: to have
  Joseph Roche: covers
  Eric Bravo: the loss
  Joseph Roche: or like in a couch you still
  Kenneth Soukup: It's
  Joseph Roche: can't
  Kenneth Soukup: really
  Joseph Roche: see it.
  Kenneth Soukup: Would it be very difficult to um just have an external device that like I dunno, you tape to your to your T_V_ um that when you press it you ha a little light beep goes off? Do you think that would be conceptually possible?
  Phillip Osborn: I
  Eric Bravo: I think
  Phillip Osborn: think it would be difficult technologically,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Osborn: because if your if your remote's lost it's probably under the settee and in that case you can't you can't send an infrared sing signal to it to
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Phillip Osborn: find it, s so it's I'm not quite sure
  Kenneth Soukup: That's true,
  Phillip Osborn: how it
  Kenneth Soukup: mm
  Phillip Osborn: would work
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: and
  Kenneth Soukup: 'kay.
  Phillip Osborn: then I wonder if it's if it's more just a gimmick then anything else. Uh I mean ho how many times do you really, seriously lose your remote control and would would a device like that actually help you to find it?
  Eric Bravo: There might be something that you can do in the circuit board and the chip to make it make a noise or something, but it would take a lot more development
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: than we have this afternoon.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay, that's a fair evaluation. Getting lost. Um we so we do we've decided not to worry about that for now. Okay 'cause well, the designs are very bright, so you're right, they're gonna stick out, but um
  Eric Bravo: So d do people have a preference as far as feel and functionality? Um.
  Joseph Roche: I feel like this is simil or it's sort of what already exists so if we're trying to think of something sort of like new and fun, even though this what you're init I'm initially drawn to, just 'cause it's like comfortable and like not different. I sort of like this one, like I I don't know why, it just it's like small but still sort of like cute looking, I dunno. But I also like the b the side buttons on that one,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: like I think that's kind of neat. But I dunno how much any of this has to do with the fashionable, sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on.
  Kenneth Soukup: Could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off? So then w we wouldn't
  Eric Bravo: Mm
  Joseph Roche: Ah,
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah,
  Kenneth Soukup: have to
  Phillip Osborn: it's
  Kenneth Soukup: have like
  Phillip Osborn: possible,
  Kenneth Soukup: a dual
  Eric Bravo: yeah,
  Kenneth Soukup: function?
  Eric Bravo: that's
  Joseph Roche: there we
  Phillip Osborn: yeah,
  Joseph Roche: go.
  Eric Bravo: good, that's good.
  Phillip Osborn: yeah.
  Eric Bravo: Here, stick it on.
  Phillip Osborn: Put an extra the
  Kenneth Soukup: Sure.
  Phillip Osborn: button on.
  Kenneth Soukup: Um uh why don't we do a product evaluation using your criteria, if you've
  Joseph Roche: Well
  Kenneth Soukup: developed
  Joseph Roche: do we w
  Kenneth Soukup: some?
  Joseph Roche: like I think we're supposed to have one that we do it for.
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh okay. Okay.
  Joseph Roche: That was
  Eric Bravo: So where
  Joseph Roche: I was a little vague on what exactly I'm supposed to do, but let Joseph Roche I have to like write something on
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: the whiteboard, so.
  Kenneth Soukup: Do you need this or just write on the white
  Joseph Roche: No,
  Kenneth Soukup: board?
  Joseph Roche: I actually don't have like a PowerPointy thing,
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: 'cause
  Eric Bravo: Right.
  Joseph Roche: I think it would be redundant.
  Eric Bravo: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: I dunno.
  Kenneth Soukup: It's kind of like uh
  Eric Bravo: Ooh.
  Kenneth Soukup: like a joystick kind of thing, you know, kinda push it.
  Phillip Osborn: Cool.
  Eric Bravo: Hey.
  Kenneth Soukup: 'Kay. Maybe a little smaller than that.
  Eric Bravo: No, I kinda like it. That's hard to miss.
  Phillip Osborn: It makes look more fruity as well.
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh it does, it's kind of like
  Phillip Osborn: It's like a deformed foot, I dunno.
  Kenneth Soukup: There it could have a stem like that, 'cause I do l kind of like the stem.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: Like
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah. It almost helps you ge keep a grip too, 'cause it goes
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: in between
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: fingers.
  Eric Bravo: Interesting.
  Kenneth Soukup: I like this one.
  Eric Bravo: Okay, is that
  Kenneth Soukup: Variety
  Eric Bravo: where people
  Kenneth Soukup: of colours
  Eric Bravo: are leaning
  Kenneth Soukup: are
  Eric Bravo: then,
  Kenneth Soukup: nice.
  Eric Bravo: the potato? I like the idea
  Kenneth Soukup: I think
  Eric Bravo: of the
  Kenneth Soukup: I'm leaning towards the potato.
  Eric Bravo: I mean that's really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down, that one.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm. I am worried about like um using a menu. Um in that like i withing menus there are submenus,
  Eric Bravo: Hmm.
  Kenneth Soukup: and so how do you
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: get back to the main menu?
  Eric Bravo: Well that on the iPod, for example, you just every time you wanna go back you hit the menu button again and it brings you back one level.
  Kenneth Soukup: But that has a menu button separate from a select button, whereas if
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: this one's both the
  Eric Bravo: Good
  Kenneth Soukup: menu
  Eric Bravo: point.
  Kenneth Soukup: and the select button?
  Phillip Osborn: This is, it's the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Phillip Osborn: You find the choice that you want and you press uh you press the right button uh.
  Kenneth Soukup: Could these
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: be used for going to
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah,
  Kenneth Soukup: submenus
  Phillip Osborn: so they're used
  Kenneth Soukup: or
  Phillip Osborn: for going into and
  Eric Bravo: Maybe
  Phillip Osborn: out of your submenus,
  Eric Bravo: yeah,
  Phillip Osborn: yeah.
  Eric Bravo: maybe it can
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Eric Bravo: be one of those, if you press down and hold for two seconds, then it brings you back one level or something.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still, mm 'kay.
  Joseph Roche: Okay, so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities, the yellowy one is that
  Eric Bravo: The potato? Are we leaning
  Phillip Osborn: Potato.
  Eric Bravo: towards the potato?
  Kenneth Soukup: I think so.
  Joseph Roche: Okay, well we can obviously change it after we go through each different
  Eric Bravo: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: one. So basically what we need to do is some of the things that we've talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does
  Eric Bravo: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: conform to the things that we said it was going to. So what we sort of wanna do is that we each need to separately rank each of the following things and then I'll tabulate an average just to make sure
  Eric Bravo: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: that it does meet that. So we'll just go through them one at a time and we'll just go around and each of you can tell Joseph Roche on a scale of one to seven with one being really extremely true and seven being not true at all, or false, if the remote that we've created conforms to the following criteria. So we can do this one first. First we wanna know if it meets the fancy look and feel um objective. So like in my opinion the for now at least, the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so I'm gonna say it's like a three. That's just my opinion.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: What does each of you
  Kenneth Soukup: I I kind of think it's it's unique enough that I'd give it a one or a two.
  Joseph Roche: Okay, well give it a number,
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: sorry.
  Kenneth Soukup: I will give it a one.
  Eric Bravo: Um I dunno if it's it's creative. I dunno if fancy is the word I would use. I dunno if any of them are fancy in I'd say two, because
  Joseph Roche: Okay.
  Eric Bravo: c unique.
  Joseph Roche: And
  Phillip Osborn: I'll go for two.
  Joseph Roche: two, awesome. Alright, and same sort of scale for functionality, is it functional? I think it's extremely functional, I'm gonna give it a one.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah, one.
  Joseph Roche: One?
  Phillip Osborn: I think it's it's functional, it's also pretty basic, so I'll give it a two.
  Joseph Roche: Okay.
  Kenneth Soukup: Um functional. I think it'll get everything done, I think it might be a little confusing at first, um,
  Joseph Roche: Okay. Well there's some
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Joseph Roche: other
  Kenneth Soukup: don't know if that's
  Joseph Roche: ones,
  Kenneth Soukup: gonna
  Joseph Roche: I
  Kenneth Soukup: be
  Joseph Roche: will
  Kenneth Soukup: a later
  Joseph Roche: address
  Kenneth Soukup: one.
  Joseph Roche: that, yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay, then I'm gonna give it a two.
  Joseph Roche: Awesome, okay. Um we wanna know next if it's technologically innovative.
  Kenneth Soukup: Did you give a functional?
  Joseph Roche: Yeah, she said it was one.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: Um is it technologically innovative? Mm. Not really, I mean not so much, 'cause we we don't have the L_C_D_ screen, we don't have fancy chip. Other than what it looks like, I dunno if it's
  Kenneth Soukup: Well, the kinetic
  Joseph Roche: really
  Kenneth Soukup: battery.
  Eric Bravo: In the battery,
  Joseph Roche: I
  Eric Bravo: that's it.
  Joseph Roche: kinetic battery is a big one, so.
  Eric Bravo: How many people
  Joseph Roche: Mm.
  Eric Bravo: would notice that, though?
  Joseph Roche: But it
  Kenneth Soukup: But
  Joseph Roche: but
  Kenneth Soukup: they'll notice
  Joseph Roche: we know
  Kenneth Soukup: it after
  Joseph Roche: it's there.
  Kenneth Soukup: like a year, they'll be like hey, I have never changed the battery.
  Joseph Roche: And if it's made of like latex, that whole
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: idea, that's pretty cool. I'll
  Kenneth Soukup: Just
  Joseph Roche: give it
  Kenneth Soukup: the
  Joseph Roche: a
  Kenneth Soukup: material.
  Joseph Roche: three. 'Cause it we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really
  Eric Bravo: Yeah. I I would say that it's Yeah, like fancy versus creative it's it's different. But does that equal innovative? I dunno. I'll give it a three.
  Joseph Roche: Alright. Everyone else?
  Phillip Osborn: I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique, I mean it's it's just it is just pushbuttons um, so I I'd give it a four.
  Kenneth Soukup: Think I'm gonna go with the four as well.
  Joseph Roche: Mm 'kay.
  Kenneth Soukup: I really like that kinetic battery though.
  Joseph Roche: Next, is it easy to use? Just so you know, easy to learn will be separate,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm
  Joseph Roche: so don't
  Kenneth Soukup: 'kay.
  Eric Bravo: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: overlap them. I think it's really easy to use. I'll give it a two.
  Eric Bravo: Um I'll give it a one. Pretty hard to mess up.
  Phillip Osborn: I'll say one.
  Kenneth Soukup: Uh let's say two.
  Joseph Roche: Alright. Um we next wanna see if it has a spongy quality and if indeed it's made of latex or rubber I it's spongy all the way.
  Kenneth Soukup: Give it a one.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: I wonder if it bounces when you drop it.
  Eric Bravo: Ooh,
  Joseph Roche: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: that you couldn't it'd be harder to break, harder to lose.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: 'Cause there would be less impact maybe,
  Joseph Roche: Iain, what
  Eric Bravo: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: do you give
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah
  Joseph Roche: it?
  Phillip Osborn: I'd I'd give it a one.
  Joseph Roche: Alright and the next is, does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables?
  Phillip Osborn: Uh um.
  Joseph Roche: Well, is it gonna be yellow?
  Eric Bravo: It it might be, 'cause that's our corporate colour, isn't it?
  Kenneth Soukup: That's right, yeah, corporate
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: colour, we didn't keep that in
  Eric Bravo: We might
  Kenneth Soukup: um
  Eric Bravo: wanna keep it yellow.
  Kenneth Soukup: well if we I know it would make it a little less c a little more confusing, but if we had all the buttons in black, and a design in and the outside in yellow, that'd be our corporate one and we could also have alternative colours, one a more conservative one, one
  Joseph Roche: Yeah,
  Kenneth Soukup: that's
  Joseph Roche: but if
  Kenneth Soukup: more
  Joseph Roche: you had
  Kenneth Soukup: fruity.
  Joseph Roche: like a silvery kind of white or something.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah,
  Kenneth Soukup: Um and
  Eric Bravo: If
  Kenneth Soukup: can
  Eric Bravo: we
  Kenneth Soukup: we
  Eric Bravo: had
  Kenneth Soukup: have
  Eric Bravo: a yellow
  Kenneth Soukup: like an R_R_ inscribed on the bottom or something?
  Eric Bravo: Sure.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: Oh,
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: yeah. Alright, so
  Kenneth Soukup: Fruity,
  Eric Bravo: So,
  Joseph Roche: I think it
  Kenneth Soukup: so
  Joseph Roche: it's
  Kenneth Soukup: fruity.
  Eric Bravo: so I think
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: it's pretty
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Eric Bravo: fruity.
  Kenneth Soukup: think i it's kind of mangoey too.
  Eric Bravo: Oh,
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: Mangoey
  Eric Bravo: mango
  Joseph Roche: I
  Phillip Osborn: is
  Joseph Roche: okay,
  Phillip Osborn: better,
  Kenneth Soukup: Yes.
  Phillip Osborn: yeah.
  Eric Bravo: that
  Joseph Roche: I'm giving
  Phillip Osborn: I
  Joseph Roche: it a one
  Eric Bravo: that
  Joseph Roche: the mango
  Phillip Osborn: like mangoes.
  Joseph Roche: put Joseph Roche over.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Eric Bravo: That's a much more trendy than a potato
  Joseph Roche: What are what's everyone's numbers?
  Eric Bravo: one.
  Phillip Osborn: Uh two.
  Kenneth Soukup: One.
  Joseph Roche: Alright um, and does the design match the appropriate behaviour? Remember earlier we discussed that people don't use a lot of buttons, that they use the channel flipping and the volume the most. I think we really took that into account a lot, so I'm gonna give it a one.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah, Joseph Roche too.
  Phillip Osborn: Uh one.
  Joseph Roche: Did you say one, Rose?
  Kenneth Soukup: Yes.
  Joseph Roche: Okay um, also we talked earlier about R_S_I_ and wanting to prevent um any sort of like Carpal Tunnely kind of thing. Do we think that the latex sort of grip appropriately takes that into account? I think I'll give it a two, matter what you do, something
  Kenneth Soukup: It's gonna
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: is
  Kenneth Soukup: be
  Joseph Roche: gonna
  Kenneth Soukup: hard.
  Joseph Roche: happen.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah, yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: And if it's repetitive movement it is gonna be only four buttons that you're constantly pushing, but um
  Joseph Roche: Um um worth the risk,
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Joseph Roche: I
  Kenneth Soukup: like
  Joseph Roche: think.
  Kenneth Soukup: how it fits in the hand though
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: I'd go with a two.
  Eric Bravo: I'll I'll say two as well. Because older people that aren't used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: 'Kay.
  Eric Bravo: at first, but
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah I'll I'll say two.
  Joseph Roche: Alright, awesome. And the ease of learning it. I know you were saying that you're a little bit nervous about that, I dunno. It sort of reminds Joseph Roche of the iPod. I just got mine, I still haven't read the instruction book and I'm doing okay,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: so and I'm not good at learning technology. So I'll give it a two.
  Eric Bravo: The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing, but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out, but you'll have it afterwards.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess.
  Phillip Osborn: I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn, because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are and
  Eric Bravo: Oh,
  Phillip Osborn: that
  Eric Bravo: good
  Phillip Osborn: could
  Eric Bravo: point.
  Phillip Osborn: take a bit of learning at first,
  Joseph Roche: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Osborn: but once you've, yeah once you'd learned how to use it, I think it is a lot easier. So I'd I'd give it a four.
  Joseph Roche: Okay.
  Kenneth Soukup: I think I'd give it a four too. It's a pretty high learning curve, it'll be easy once you've done it, but
  Joseph Roche: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: Alright, um also earlier we had something about losing it and so now we're not addressing that at all, so
  Kenneth Soukup: We we I think we can kind of say we addressed it with colour,
  Joseph Roche: Okay, so
  Kenneth Soukup: but
  Joseph Roche: in terms of not losing it, do you think that on a scale of one to seven, how easy or hard is it to lose? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four, 'cause I think that you can still if it's in between somewhere where you can't see it, you're kind of not gonna find it, but
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: anywhere
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: else it's gonna stand out.
  Eric Bravo: Um I'd say I'd give it uh a three, I guess it depends on how tidy you are normally.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm I'd give it a four.
  Phillip Osborn: Um I'll give it a five 'cause i it would be easy to lose something like
  Kenneth Soukup: Small
  Phillip Osborn: that,
  Kenneth Soukup: too.
  Phillip Osborn: yeah.
  Joseph Roche: Alright, we also said simplicity, how w how well does it address just being simple?
  Eric Bravo: Simple to use or simple in design? Do you
  Joseph Roche: I
  Eric Bravo: know?
  Joseph Roche: think overall, 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion, so those are the next two things we're gonna look at. Separate from fancy, like
  Eric Bravo: Right.
  Joseph Roche: that sort of thing. Um it like wants to be simple but it's not like totally totally simple, so I'm gonna give it a two.
  Eric Bravo: I'm give it a three I guess.
  Phillip Osborn: I'll give it a two.
  Kenneth Soukup: Three.
  Joseph Roche: Alright, and fashionable?
  Kenneth Soukup: It's totally fashionable.
  Joseph Roche: It's
  Kenneth Soukup: I'd
  Joseph Roche: hot,
  Kenneth Soukup: give it a one.
  Joseph Roche: I mean it's a mango, come on.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mango.
  Joseph Roche: I mean how fashionable can you make a remote? I think it's bringing technology and fashion together real really well.
  Eric Bravo: I dunno. I don't think it's quite as fashionable as my robot remote
  Kenneth Soukup: I do like uh the little
  Eric Bravo: or
  Kenneth Soukup: Martian
  Eric Bravo: alien
  Kenneth Soukup: one.
  Eric Bravo: or whatever he was.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah, the toggle on off switch, it's really appealing. Number.
  Eric Bravo: Um two.
  Phillip Osborn: Three.
  Kenneth Soukup: One.
  Joseph Roche: And does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal, that whole thing? Just that it would se serve our audience. I don't see why not.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm. I think as long if we offer in a in at least three different colour arrangements. Um
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: yeah,
  Joseph Roche: Mm-hmm.
  Kenneth Soukup: that's good. So I'll give it a a two.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah, I'll say two.
  Joseph Roche: Alright, did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we didn't talk about?
  Kenneth Soukup: Well um we didn't we didn't address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo, so let's let's make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colours concepts is
  Eric Bravo: Shall
  Kenneth Soukup: corporate
  Eric Bravo: we uh
  Kenneth Soukup: and has an R_R_ on it.
  Eric Bravo: Well I think all of them
  Kenneth Soukup: All
  Eric Bravo: should
  Kenneth Soukup: of them
  Eric Bravo: have
  Kenneth Soukup: should
  Eric Bravo: an
  Kenneth Soukup: have
  Eric Bravo: R_R_.
  Kenneth Soukup: R_R_, yeah.
  Joseph Roche: And so we're gonna do that, so it will address
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: it,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm
  Joseph Roche: fine.
  Kenneth Soukup: 'kay.
  Joseph Roche: Okay. That's
  Kenneth Soukup: Lovely.
  Joseph Roche: Joseph Roche.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay, now we're gonna look at finances. Um I have an Excel sheet that we're actually gonna calculate the cost um, so let Joseph Roche exit out of this first. Okay um
  Joseph Roche: Whoa.
  Eric Bravo: Oh my.
  Kenneth Soukup: I know. Let Joseph Roche one more space. Gonna zoom in real quick. Okay. Hand dynamo. We're using
  Eric Bravo: Uh
  Kenneth Soukup: kinetic
  Eric Bravo: we're
  Kenneth Soukup: battery,
  Eric Bravo: n using
  Kenneth Soukup: right?
  Eric Bravo: kinetic, yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Um and we're having one per
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: One, okay. Um electronics.
  Eric Bravo: Single. Simple,
  Kenneth Soukup: Simple.
  Joseph Roche: Simple.
  Eric Bravo: simple rather.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm 'kay. Um the case.
  Eric Bravo: Uh uh uh
  Phillip Osborn: Guess
  Eric Bravo: double-curved.
  Phillip Osborn: it's double-curved. It is pretty curvy.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: It's very curvy, so okay.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah I never did get a picture of those so I don't really know. Our case material supplements oops, we just skipped
  Joseph Roche: Well
  Eric Bravo: by
  Joseph Roche: don't
  Eric Bravo: them.
  Joseph Roche: we need plastic, and
  Eric Bravo: No, we we the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed.
  Joseph Roche: Provided,
  Eric Bravo: The
  Joseph Roche: okay.
  Eric Bravo: supplement is
  Kenneth Soukup: The wood?
  Eric Bravo: Oh, I guess it was rubber rather
  Kenneth Soukup: I mean
  Eric Bravo: than
  Joseph Roche: It was
  Kenneth Soukup: the
  Joseph Roche: rubber
  Eric Bravo: latex.
  Kenneth Soukup: rubber.
  Joseph Roche: and special colour, right?
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm, okay.
  Joseph Roche: Do we have more than one special colour?
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah,
  Eric Bravo: Uh
  Kenneth Soukup: we're using
  Eric Bravo: well
  Kenneth Soukup: we're gonna
  Phillip Osborn: Special colours,
  Kenneth Soukup: need at least
  Phillip Osborn: isn't
  Kenneth Soukup: two
  Phillip Osborn: it?
  Kenneth Soukup: special colours. Um.
  Eric Bravo: I don't know what
  Joseph Roche: Per
  Eric Bravo: the se the basic colour
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Eric Bravo: is
  Kenneth Soukup: dunno
  Eric Bravo: though.
  Kenneth Soukup: where it yeah.
  Joseph Roche: Well, but we know that we're having at least three colours,
  Kenneth Soukup: So
  Joseph Roche: so
  Kenneth Soukup: let's y say
  Eric Bravo: Well,
  Kenneth Soukup: three.
  Eric Bravo: are we talking about on each colour combination or are we, you know, we'll like we'll have yellow and black. Is that two special colours?
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah, I dunno.
  Eric Bravo: Or
  Kenneth Soukup: That
  Eric Bravo: or
  Kenneth Soukup: I thi
  Eric Bravo: is
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Eric Bravo: white and
  Kenneth Soukup: thought
  Eric Bravo: black,
  Kenneth Soukup: that would be under
  Eric Bravo: then
  Kenneth Soukup: yours.
  Eric Bravo: two more or Uh. I guess it's three,
  Kenneth Soukup: We'll just say three.
  Eric Bravo: three three.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: Right.
  Eric Bravo: Alright.
  Kenneth Soukup: Maybe the R_R_ will be in colour as well, so yeah. Interface, we're doing push buttons.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: And how many buttons do we
  Joseph Roche: We
  Kenneth Soukup: have?
  Joseph Roche: have
  Phillip Osborn: We've got
  Joseph Roche: six.
  Phillip Osborn: five.
  Joseph Roche: Oh
  Eric Bravo: Six,
  Joseph Roche: no,
  Phillip Osborn: Oh
  Kenneth Soukup: Six.
  Joseph Roche: five.
  Phillip Osborn: six.
  Eric Bravo: with the power. Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Anything else?
  Eric Bravo: No. Oh, we'll do we wa Are the buttons in special colour, special f I didn't get information on
  Joseph Roche: Oh wait.
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh, buttons oh, so um. So the case material will just have one colour, right, but
  Eric Bravo: Well,
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: then the buttons
  Eric Bravo: does it
  Kenneth Soukup: will be in special colours?
  Eric Bravo: but if we're making multiple varieties of this is where I'm getting confused.
  Kenneth Soukup: We're saying per unit.
  Eric Bravo: per unit,
  Joseph Roche: Yeah, per
  Eric Bravo: okay,
  Joseph Roche: unit.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay,
  Eric Bravo: okay.
  Kenneth Soukup: so each unit will only have one colour
  Eric Bravo: Alright, and each
  Kenneth Soukup: on their
  Eric Bravo: button
  Kenneth Soukup: but the case is
  Eric Bravo: s
  Kenneth Soukup: could have up to thr I mean the buttons could ea could be up to three colours, 'cause that
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: how it's designed there.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: I like
  Eric Bravo: Yeah,
  Joseph Roche: it like that.
  Kenneth Soukup: So
  Eric Bravo: okay.
  Kenneth Soukup: Special form? They're all kind of just push button,
  Eric Bravo: No, I think
  Kenneth Soukup: right?
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: they're fine.
  Kenneth Soukup: Special material?
  Eric Bravo: Material, we want them rubber as well probably, yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Uh. Oh do I have to do it per button, do I?
  Eric Bravo: No, I don't think so. I think they're if they're all
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Eric Bravo: gonna be rubber then it that's what it matters.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah, 'cause
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: it wouldn't make sense
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: otherwise, 'cause for the whole mat case material it's only one.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: It's I mean it's two to make it rubber.
  Eric Bravo: Okay.
  Joseph Roche: Oh wait, so maybe.
  Kenneth Soukup: Thirteen point seven.
  Eric Bravo: Oh oh.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah, what can we reduce?
  Eric Bravo: Okay, let's have our buttons all be one colour.
  Joseph Roche: Mm, I kind of like
  Kenneth Soukup: Let's
  Joseph Roche: the
  Kenneth Soukup: see
  Joseph Roche: buttons.
  Kenneth Soukup: what that would do. It's only gonna bring us down to thirteen point three anyway.
  Eric Bravo: Alright.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay um,
  Eric Bravo: Uh.
  Kenneth Soukup: are we sure this is double-curved? Maybe it's single-curved,
  Eric Bravo: We have no idea.
  Kenneth Soukup: we have no idea.
  Eric Bravo: I dunno, I didn't get any pictures.
  Joseph Roche: It's
  Eric Bravo: It's single curved.
  Joseph Roche: single curved.
  Eric Bravo: Why not?
  Kenneth Soukup: Well it's not the yeah. Okay, it's the kinetic battery that's kind of expensive, but we have a simple chip, single curve, case material is rubber and it's a special colour,
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: but that's important.
  Eric Bravo: That is important.
  Kenneth Soukup: Six buttons
  Eric Bravo: How did
  Kenneth Soukup: we
  Eric Bravo: it get
  Kenneth Soukup: have
  Eric Bravo: more
  Kenneth Soukup: to
  Eric Bravo: expensive,
  Kenneth Soukup: have six buttons.
  Eric Bravo: what did you just change?
  Kenneth Soukup: What?
  Eric Bravo: It was it was thirteen and now it's fifteen.
  Kenneth Soukup: No, okay, maybe not. I don't know what just happened. Now it's
  Joseph Roche: We
  Kenneth Soukup: twelve.
  Phillip Osborn: What was our target price again?
  Eric Bravo: Twelve
  Kenneth Soukup: Twelve
  Eric Bravo: point five.
  Kenneth Soukup: point five.
  Eric Bravo: Hey
  Phillip Osborn: Twelve
  Eric Bravo: hey.
  Phillip Osborn: point five. So we're just
  Kenneth Soukup: So we're
  Phillip Osborn: just
  Kenneth Soukup: okay,
  Phillip Osborn: about there.
  Eric Bravo: We're all
  Kenneth Soukup: I think.
  Eric Bravo: set then.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: Ish.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay,
  Eric Bravo: Alright.
  Kenneth Soukup: we're all set. Um save. I saved that to our um our big shared folder, so you know. Um okay, back to agenda. Um are the are the costs under twelve fifty Euro?
  Eric Bravo: Yes.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yes.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah,
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: they are.
  Kenneth Soukup: Let's move on to the project evaluation. Project process. Satisfaction with for example the room for creativity, leadership, teamwork, the means, any new ideas found. So I guess what we're gonna talk about here is just evaluating how we created this project, the information we got on the news, how we used it, if we were able to um, you know, use our creativity with the information, um how how well I guess I led it, um the how well we worked together as a team, um the digital pens, the whiteboard.
  Eric Bravo: Well.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay.
  Eric Bravo: I felt very creative. I enjoyed making the prototypes.
  Phillip Osborn: I think we've been successful in that we've achieved almost all of the design goals that we've set
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: and we've come up with a finished project and we just about got cost.
  Eric Bravo: I think we could've done even better with a little bit more information, like
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: what's a single-curved case, how many colours, what do colours count
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: things, but given given what we had I think that we did we did really well. Um I think we worked together pretty well.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah, I mean if I'd had more market research on the fruits
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: and vegetables, maybe we could've taken that into account.
  Eric Bravo: But the fruits and vegetables, they really my creativity, so.
  Joseph Roche: I know, I really did, the the whole mango idea was great. No, I mean
  Eric Bravo: Do you think we
  Joseph Roche: I
  Eric Bravo: could
  Joseph Roche: thought the pen was a little distracting for Joseph Roche personally, like its heaviness, and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages, I dunno. That was a bit of a distraction.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: That was the last one, like I chose not to do a PowerPoint 'cause I didn't think it made sense to, so I liked that I had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: that whole sort of thing.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: I think we all made um very significant contributions, I don't think anybody dominated it, which I thought was really good, like each of us was able to um like each of you had your information and I uh I tried to facilitate it without like taking over, um
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: I like our little finished products.
  Joseph Roche: They're funny.
  Kenneth Soukup: Really cute.
  Joseph Roche: I kind of want one.
  Eric Bravo: Can we market this as the mango remote? Should we have that somewhere on the packaging? I have a little
  Joseph Roche: I'm
  Eric Bravo: R_R_.
  Joseph Roche: trying to think of a good pun that I could add there.
  Kenneth Soukup: I know, let's think of it like a little jingle. Um.
  Joseph Roche: I like the R_R_, that's gonna be etched in.
  Eric Bravo: Yes. Hopefully not with just my fingernail at some point but um it's quite a useful little gadget. All thanks to Iain for the design of that one.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay um
  Eric Bravo: Mm. What did we
  Kenneth Soukup: new
  Eric Bravo: find
  Kenneth Soukup: ideas
  Eric Bravo: for new ideas?
  Kenneth Soukup: found?
  Eric Bravo: People should really base their remotes on fruits and vegetables.
  Kenneth Soukup: Definitely.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Or or at least be c p creative enough to think of toggle switches mm
  Eric Bravo: I
  Kenneth Soukup: etcetera.
  Eric Bravo: I am really into the idea of kinetic batteries now
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh, I'm
  Eric Bravo: after
  Kenneth Soukup: so
  Eric Bravo: reading
  Kenneth Soukup: excited.
  Eric Bravo: about them.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah,
  Eric Bravo: That
  Joseph Roche: I didn't
  Eric Bravo: was
  Joseph Roche: even know they existed.
  Eric Bravo: I I knew you can get watches that had them, like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery, 'cause you're always moving your wrist.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: But in other things, I think it'd be really good.
  Kenneth Soukup: I thi yeah, that's awesome. Um okay, closing. Are the costs within the budget? Is the project
  Eric Bravo: Yes.
  Kenneth Soukup: evaluated? Now there's the final questionnaire and meeting summary. Um so, this is the great product kids, I think we've created something really interesting and that we have a market for it, um
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: especially if we can produce it at twelve point three which we hope um yeah. Make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the um the final results and.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah, Real Reaction.
  Kenneth Soukup: I do like the Martian remote. If we could choose more than one, that would be my second choice.
  Joseph Roche: Oh, that would definitely be my second choice.
  Phillip Osborn: Mm.
  Kenneth Soukup: Although the tog toggle I'm afraid
  Phillip Osborn: That's
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Phillip Osborn: cool.
  Kenneth Soukup: would
  Phillip Osborn: Let's
  Joseph Roche: I
  Phillip Osborn: all
  Joseph Roche: would break
  Phillip Osborn: let's all
  Joseph Roche: it.
  Phillip Osborn: go for
  Kenneth Soukup: It's
  Phillip Osborn: the
  Kenneth Soukup: cool.
  Phillip Osborn: yellow
  Joseph Roche: I would break it.
  Kenneth Soukup: I think I would break it.
  Eric Bravo: It
  Phillip Osborn: Break
  Eric Bravo: started
  Phillip Osborn: the stem
  Eric Bravo: because
  Phillip Osborn: off.
  Eric Bravo: I wanted to have it as st as a stem and then alright, so
  Joseph Roche: Oh that's funny.
  Eric Bravo: Is it started as a pear, but then it started looking more and more like a Martian when I put
  Joseph Roche: Kind
  Eric Bravo: the
  Joseph Roche: of looks like a penguin, like with no eye.
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh
  Eric Bravo: Take
  Kenneth Soukup: yeah, it's
  Eric Bravo: Joseph Roche
  Kenneth Soukup: kind of a
  Eric Bravo: to
  Kenneth Soukup: penguin.
  Eric Bravo: your leader.
  Joseph Roche: I like that it stands up.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-mm.
  Eric Bravo: Wow, maybe I should market it to some remote control company now. So are are
  Phillip Osborn: That was
  Joseph Roche: Oh,
  Phillip Osborn: bound to happen
  Joseph Roche: sad.
  Eric Bravo: poor little thing.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm 'kay, congratulations. Um. Anything else to say?
  Joseph Roche: Nothing will come up until after our meeting's supposed to be over,
  Kenneth Soukup: Alright.
  Joseph Roche: its all timed.
  Eric Bravo: Oh.
  Kenneth Soukup: Um anybody
  Joseph Roche: Oh.
  Kenneth Soukup: have I got more master classes, anybody else wanna like take a master's class?
  Eric Bravo: It's really funny that you got spam in your work emails.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah, but check it out. So like there are all these like links, they don't go anywhere. But all that you need to keep in mind your knowledge management. Um just wanna make sure you do.
  Joseph Roche: No the first one that you sent like I didn't realise that it was a joke and I was like why did she send this
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh
  Joseph Roche: to us? It's very it's very work relevant, 'cause people
  Kenneth Soukup: It is.
  Joseph Roche: send spam a lot.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yes definitely I'm very sad that I didn't get any links to the corporate website.
  Joseph Roche: Oh here you can
  Eric Bravo: Let's see,
  Joseph Roche: you can
  Eric Bravo: what
  Joseph Roche: view.
  Eric Bravo: did I get through the corporate website? It's
  Joseph Roche: You can
  Eric Bravo: just
  Joseph Roche: just see what's
  Eric Bravo: inspiration
  Joseph Roche: up.
  Eric Bravo: about circuit boards.
  Kenneth Soukup: Wow.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah it's it's really deep. Hold on. Takes a little while to get excited to load. That the Excel thing is pretty cool.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yes.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah, that
  Joseph Roche: Here,
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Eric Bravo: is
  Kenneth Soukup: love
  Joseph Roche: like,
  Eric Bravo: pretty
  Kenneth Soukup: Excel,
  Eric Bravo: neat.
  Kenneth Soukup: it's
  Joseph Roche: basically
  Kenneth Soukup: one of my favourite programs.
  Joseph Roche: it's like inspiration, basically I'm gonna give you two sentences on fashion and that kind of thing, see. You didn't miss
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Joseph Roche: out
  Kenneth Soukup: see,
  Joseph Roche: that much.
  Kenneth Soukup: mm.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah, my inspiration from from last time
  Kenneth Soukup: Spongy.
  Eric Bravo: is the in interior of a remote control being taken apart bit by bit, talking about circuit boards. I learned a lot actually.
  Phillip Osborn: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: Oh wow.
  Eric Bravo: I could probably take apart a remote control now if I really needed to.
  Joseph Roche: This one was cooler. I got a whole table and everything.
  Eric Bravo: Now I have all about circuits and chips and transponders and I wrote it all down, because I thought it would be relevant, like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control, but then they're like, you don't actually need this you just
  Joseph Roche: That's
  Eric Bravo: need
  Joseph Roche: like
  Eric Bravo: to
  Joseph Roche: mine
  Eric Bravo: talk
  Joseph Roche: it
  Eric Bravo: about
  Joseph Roche: was like,
  Eric Bravo: the case.
  Joseph Roche: would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen or a multifunction remote control? And then it didn't have like any kind of table, like awesome, I'm glad they asked that question and didn't report the result.
  Eric Bravo: It's really
  Kenneth Soukup: I
  Eric Bravo: interesting though.
  Kenneth Soukup: I thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: We had a lot of the um
  Phillip Osborn: I
  Kenneth Soukup: otherwise
  Phillip Osborn: think.
  Kenneth Soukup: the technology today was kinda cool.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: That was really neat how I got emails
  Phillip Osborn: We didn't
  Eric Bravo: and
  Phillip Osborn: we didn't
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Osborn: use the whiteboard that much.
  Kenneth Soukup: No.
  Eric Bravo: No.
  Kenneth Soukup: Although I don't see how we could have very l at least for Joseph Roche I
  Eric Bravo: I yeah. If I'd gotten pictures of the different parts of the case, the different looks of the case, I would have probably drawn them up, but
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: 'Cause we weren't like voting on anything and I think usually, like whiteboards are good, you know like crossing out ideas, or like if we had had like a brainstorming
  Eric Bravo: Yeah, we could've
  Joseph Roche: period.
  Eric Bravo: put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it, but
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: But I thought we were good orally.
  Eric Bravo: with only four people it doesn't really make sense.
  Joseph Roche: Get
  Eric Bravo: I think if you
  Kenneth Soukup: And
  Eric Bravo: had
  Kenneth Soukup: with
  Eric Bravo: a larger
  Joseph Roche: crazy.
  Kenneth Soukup: and
  Eric Bravo: group
  Kenneth Soukup: with the PowerPoint that we can all look at, like you
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: can do all those things pretty much on PowerPoint
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: as that's
  Joseph Roche: And
  Kenneth Soukup: not
  Joseph Roche: these
  Kenneth Soukup: as necessary
  Joseph Roche: might've
  Kenneth Soukup: to have.
  Joseph Roche: made us more willing to like take notes than to like
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: write up them here, 'cause we all needed them separately, kind of on the whiteboards in
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: this room.
  Eric Bravo: Because we're all gonna be working in different places.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: We if we were all gonna stay in here all the time, then
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: having the notes up on the whiteboard would've been alright, but everyone needs their own, like specific notes, I guess.
  Kenneth Soukup: Now when you were um creating your um prototypes here, did you work together or did you like do separate projects?
  Phillip Osborn: Uh we we worked together,
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: um but we were making like we sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the how the buttons might work,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah. So it was a bit of both really, we just kind of started out by each taking a colour of clay and just fooling around with it and I came up with that rhombus shape and he came
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: up with the sort of potatoey, mangoey shape, and then just went from there really.
  Kenneth Soukup: Cool.
  Eric Bravo: It was fun.
  Eric Bravo: So well done with the management, I felt well managed.
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh thanks.
  Phillip Osborn: I think we did well in
  Kenneth Soukup: It's kinda fun.
  Phillip Osborn: first of all giving our meetings the time, and second we actually we we did a good job of making firm decisions at the ends of the meetings.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: Sorry.
  Phillip Osborn: And I
  Eric Bravo: That happened to Joseph Roche all the time though.
  Phillip Osborn: I know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sort of have meetings and then people sorta drift away without anything actually really being decided.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Osborn: But I think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points at the end of the meetings, so that we we knew where to go on from there.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah, I was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we weren't getting we didn't really have enough information to make firm decisions,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: but we were able to do it regardless, so. I'm not usually a very decisive person, so it helped to have people say this needs
  Kenneth Soukup: This
  Eric Bravo: to
  Kenneth Soukup: is
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: be
  Kenneth Soukup: what
  Eric Bravo: done
  Kenneth Soukup: we'll do.
  Eric Bravo: in five minutes.
  Kenneth Soukup: I found that we did we could have used another five or ten minutes sometimes
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah, for
  Eric Bravo: Especially
  Phillip Osborn: some
  Kenneth Soukup: in
  Phillip Osborn: of
  Kenneth Soukup: the
  Phillip Osborn: the
  Kenneth Soukup: meetings.
  Phillip Osborn: meetings,
  Eric Bravo: last
  Phillip Osborn: yeah.
  Eric Bravo: time,
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah I think the last time we had a lot of information,
  Eric Bravo: Yeah,
  Kenneth Soukup: but at the same time not quite enough,
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: you know what I mean,
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: like we
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: we couldn't answer every single question.
  Eric Bravo: Right.
  Kenneth Soukup: Um but
  Eric Bravo: And I I felt the first two meetings, that I was coming in with no information, and not sort
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Eric Bravo: of made Joseph Roche really like, ooh I don't know, throwing together PowerPoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite. I had so much information and so much to talk about.
  Kenneth Soukup: It was interesting what came out like later, like as I was doing
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: the when I was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave Joseph Roche um, that more points came out from your
  Eric Bravo: Mm.
  Kenneth Soukup: presentation even. Um. I'm a little I am a little disappointed that we didn't do a um something for losing the remote, because
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: that was kind of a big point.
  Eric Bravo: that was something like in order to talk about that we would've had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards
  Kenneth Soukup: About
  Eric Bravo: and
  Kenneth Soukup: yeah.
  Eric Bravo: things
  Joseph Roche: Well the problem
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: like
  Joseph Roche: was, even when we just were creating from the Excel file, there wasn't like a option to select to somehow
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: have it included, so there was no we could be like yeah, it
  Eric Bravo: I
  Joseph Roche: has
  Eric Bravo: think
  Joseph Roche: it
  Eric Bravo: we
  Joseph Roche: included.
  Eric Bravo: were
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: There was no way for us to have
  Kenneth Soukup: Considered
  Joseph Roche: written
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: down
  Kenneth Soukup: the re
  Joseph Roche: that
  Kenneth Soukup: yeah.
  Joseph Roche: it was really there.
  Eric Bravo: I think we were just getting overenthusiastic with the task.
  Kenneth Soukup: Well it's interesting
  Eric Bravo: I think we really
  Kenneth Soukup: that
  Eric Bravo: got
  Kenneth Soukup: they
  Eric Bravo: into it, I mean I got into it as the day went on and I got really like, ooh I'm designing a remote control, I dunno if that's just
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm,
  Eric Bravo: Joseph Roche, but
  Kenneth Soukup: yeah. It was interesting though that they put that fifty percent of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they didn't provide us with information to
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: um
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: we weren't provided with information to discuss that. I know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it'll beep,
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: but I but I'm sure that would require some kind of technology that I just don't know what it is,
  Eric Bravo: I think
  Kenneth Soukup: but
  Eric Bravo: there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you won't lose them.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Eric Bravo: I dunno. I mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least, there's only about two places that the remote is ever
  Kenneth Soukup: Hmm.
  Eric Bravo: 'cause there's only one T_V_ and there's
  Joseph Roche: That's
  Eric Bravo: only
  Joseph Roche: like
  Eric Bravo: like
  Joseph Roche: saying
  Eric Bravo: three
  Joseph Roche: you're never
  Eric Bravo: chairs.
  Joseph Roche: gonna lose your keys, and I always do, anyway. You'll lose 'em in your pocket, like you
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Roche: just will forget that or you like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Joseph Roche: not remember, there's always ways to lose things.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: It d yeah, it depends on how organised you are personally, but
  Eric Bravo: Yeah, or like I guess what the setup of the house is too.
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm-hmm.
  Eric Bravo: But, I mean I am notorious for losing my keys, I just I guess I've just never lost the remote. I put my keys in the refrigerator the other night and couldn't find them. 'Cause I was putting groceries away.
  Joseph Roche: That's funny.
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh.
  Eric Bravo: You you're taking stuff from a bag and putting them in the refrigerator and then go back to my room.
  Kenneth Soukup: Can't get in.
  Eric Bravo: Can't get in, look all around the kitchen. Definitely in the vegetable drawer.
  Joseph Roche: That's funny.
  Eric Bravo: So.
  Joseph Roche: I always do that, leaving it in my coat, and then like using a different coat.
  Eric Bravo: Mm.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yep.
  Eric Bravo: But I guess it's 'cause we don't carry remotes around that much.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah. Can't really take it into the other room.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah. Maybe with our little robot one we could've had him have a robot, alien, pear, whatever he is, have a little voice like, I am located Oh a G_P_S_ system, internal G_P_S_.
  Joseph Roche: Oh man. Here you go.
  Eric Bravo: Although if it's sitting still for
  Kenneth Soukup: We
  Eric Bravo: too
  Kenneth Soukup: should
  Eric Bravo: long.
  Kenneth Soukup: make one that walks by itself.
  Eric Bravo: Yes
  Joseph Roche: That really
  Eric Bravo: I
  Joseph Roche: could get up and walk away.
  Kenneth Soukup: Or or like some crazy like electro-magnet, that you push
  Eric Bravo: Or
  Kenneth Soukup: it and it'll
  Eric Bravo: little
  Kenneth Soukup: go zoom to the T_V_ and stick there.
  Eric Bravo: Or just just a wheel, you know. Just if you like you'd have a remote for your remote, that'll.
  Phillip Osborn: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: Well, but if you could attach
  Eric Bravo: zoom
  Kenneth Soukup: them to the T_V_, then you can.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah. Hmm. All
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Eric Bravo: kinds of possibilities.
  Kenneth Soukup: Okay. Sorry, I'm just um trying to update my minutes. I decided to you know how I sent you the email saying that PowerPoint minutes will be complimentary,
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Kenneth Soukup: rather than like repeating them. Just gonna make I'm making full minutes, so that it'll
  Eric Bravo: Oh.
  Kenneth Soukup: include all of the agenda and all that.
  Eric Bravo: Wow.
  Kenneth Soukup: 'Cause that seems a little more useful.
  Eric Bravo: 'Cause you've had like the most typing and organising to do.
  Kenneth Soukup: But I didn't have like information to sloth
  Eric Bravo: Yeah,
  Kenneth Soukup: through either, so
  Eric Bravo: I guess How much of your PowerPoint was already done for you, every meeting.
  Kenneth Soukup: Most of it, mm-hmm. I added slides, um
  Eric Bravo: Oh.
  Kenneth Soukup: I added a couple slides each time, but that was about it.
  Eric Bravo: Okay. Yeah, I didn't even think about adding slides, 'cause I would just get slides with titles on them and
  Kenneth Soukup: Mm.
  Eric Bravo: fill them all in w didn't even think about adding more.
  Kenneth Soukup: Well, the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points, but it wouldn't have a slide for each point.
  Eric Bravo: Ah
  Kenneth Soukup: And that's the only
  Eric Bravo: yeah..
  Kenneth Soukup: way I remember that I need to go other that point. I know personally when I do PowerPoint, that's what I do and so I had it once, even if it was just like the title of it, like the three presentations, and I would do your
  Eric Bravo: Right.
  Kenneth Soukup: three.
  Joseph Roche: You have you have to have the slogan on it or can it just be like
  Kenneth Soukup: The slogan
  Eric Bravo: No,
  Kenneth Soukup: on it?
  Eric Bravo: no,
  Kenneth Soukup: No
  Eric Bravo: definitely
  Kenneth Soukup: no
  Joseph Roche: Okay
  Kenneth Soukup: no.
  Joseph Roche: good.
  Eric Bravo: not. We
  Joseph Roche: 'Cause I was like, it could go around the outside.
  Eric Bravo: No, I don't think we need to I
  Kenneth Soukup: I think
  Eric Bravo: think
  Kenneth Soukup: we just
  Eric Bravo: the
  Kenneth Soukup: need
  Eric Bravo: R_
  Kenneth Soukup: the
  Eric Bravo: and R_,
  Kenneth Soukup: um
  Eric Bravo: especially
  Kenneth Soukup: the R_R_,
  Eric Bravo: if
  Kenneth Soukup: yeah.
  Eric Bravo: the yellow and black one.
  Joseph Roche: Is it yellow and blue?
  Eric Bravo: Or yellow and blue. Lemme go to the web page.
  Kenneth Soukup: Yeah, I was just kinda going by the web page, 'cause they didn't give Joseph Roche any clear, like yellow,
  Joseph Roche: Oh
  Kenneth Soukup: grey,
  Joseph Roche: I guess it is black,
  Kenneth Soukup: or.
  Joseph Roche: grey. Grey is better than black, doesn't look so bumblebeeish.
  Kenneth Soukup: I don't really like yellow in general.
  Joseph Roche: Hey now I understand the
  Kenneth Soukup: But
  Joseph Roche: random
  Kenneth Soukup: it
  Joseph Roche: like newsclippings.
  Eric Bravo: Finish meeting now.
  Kenneth Soukup: Wasn't it interesting that um I thought it was interesting that our market marketing um expert did not agree with the marketing um the marketing choices, you know, like
  Joseph Roche: Yes. I will I just feel
  Kenneth Soukup: that
  Joseph Roche: like
  Kenneth Soukup: was
  Joseph Roche: if you're
  Kenneth Soukup: a bit
  Joseph Roche: really
  Kenneth Soukup: of a conflict.
  Joseph Roche: doing like a a really big market evaluation, you wouldn't just have like one set of source, it's kind of an they were so not backed up, it would just be a sentence like we did a survey, this is what people said.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah.
  Joseph Roche: S mm, I dunno.
  Kenneth Soukup: People are stupid.
  Eric Bravo: I guess it i it sort of a grey, isn't it? Yellow and grey, but then the slogan's in blue.
  Joseph Roche: Well we got some grey and we got some blue buttons, we're good.
  Eric Bravo: Yeah. Well we don't have the right colour clay anyway.
  Kenneth Soukup: Maybe, like I don't know. That could always be.
  Eric Bravo: Well we're not, sadly, going to actually be producing this, so.
  Kenneth Soukup: Oh.
  Joseph Roche: If they ever come out with potato
  Eric Bravo: Potato mango shaped remotes.
  Joseph Roche: I'm gonna
  Kenneth Soukup: I'm
  Joseph Roche: have
  Kenneth Soukup: claiming
  Joseph Roche: to
  Kenneth Soukup: it intellectual property.
  Joseph Roche: Yeah.
  Eric Bravo: I can't believe a whole day is gone.
  Joseph Roche: I know.
  Eric Bravo: I don't feel like it's been that long. Get sucked in. Mm I haven't gotten questionnaire eight yet.
Updated Content: Kenneth Soukup recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting and two team members presented three prototypes which differed primarily in shape. The team felt it was not necessary to include a feature to prevent the remote from getting lost as the prototype designs were quite bright. The team conducted a product evaluation of the prototype the team liked the most. They rated the prototype on the basis of its appearance, functionality, technological innovativeness, sponginess, usability, learn-ability, its ability to be found when misplaced, simplicity, and its ability to meet the appropriate demographic. The team then discussed the production costs of the remote and what features they should retain or lose in order to maintain their target cost. Kenneth Soukup then led the team in a project evaluation in which the team evaluated how they created the project, the information they found and used, their creativity, their teamwork, and the materials they had at their disposal. The team was generally quite satisfied. After Kenneth Soukup's closing, the team discussed their personal preferences in terms of the prototypes. They also further evaluated the project process and discussed what they had learned.