Extracted Content: Amalia Ortega: Wouldn't wanna be Project Manager. Uh what, we going to do. Um, once again I'm uh gonna take minutes. So, um no presentation for Mary Schryer. Uh, first we have a prototype presentation by G_ and G_.
  Kathleen Berry: Yo.
  Mary Schryer: J_
  Amalia Ortega: Afterwards
  Mary Schryer: and J_.
  Amalia Ortega: some uh eval eval evalu
  Maryann Gallardo: Evaluation.
  Mary Schryer: Evaluation.
  Kathleen Berry: Evaluation
  Amalia Ortega: evaluation
  Kathleen Berry: criteria.
  Amalia Ortega: s sorry. Uh evaluation crit criteria. Uh, in combination with the finance I um uh I received uh a an uh an Excel uh file
  Mary Schryer: Hmm.
  Amalia Ortega: which we have to fill in later on. Um, you see. Uh, and
  Mary Schryer: Hmm. Interesting.
  Amalia Ortega: then we must see uh if we uh stay under the twelve
  Mary Schryer: Ah,
  Amalia Ortega: and a
  Mary Schryer: okay.
  Amalia Ortega: half Euro. So, that's uh
  Kathleen Berry: Oops.
  Mary Schryer: Cool.
  Maryann Gallardo: Mm-hmm.
  Amalia Ortega: that's a
  Maryann Gallardo: That's
  Amalia Ortega: big
  Maryann Gallardo: gonna
  Amalia Ortega: l so
  Maryann Gallardo: be
  Amalia Ortega: let's uh wait
  Maryann Gallardo: problem.
  Amalia Ortega: it uh um
  Kathleen Berry: Some creative
  Amalia Ortega: we have we
  Kathleen Berry: uh
  Amalia Ortega: have must uh, we must have uh some time for that uh because it will be uh yeah, quite a lot
  Kathleen Berry: Oh.
  Amalia Ortega: of mathematics.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: And after that, uh uh an evaluation of uh the process how we uh how we have done it here with the SMARTboard, with the with our laptops, with the all uh all this. And uh afterwards, uh we closing. Once again, forty minutes, so uh
  Kathleen Berry: Ok
  Amalia Ortega: let's start.
  Kathleen Berry: okay.
  Amalia Ortega: I would g give the word to um G_ and G_ for the prototype
  Kathleen Berry: Shall I
  Amalia Ortega: presentation.
  Kathleen Berry: give a short introduction and then uh
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, well sure.
  Mary Schryer: J_ and J_.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: J_ and J_.
  Mary Schryer: Jane and Jane.
  Kathleen Berry: J_ and J_, okay.
  Mary Schryer: 'Kay guys, take it away.
  Maryann Gallardo: Hi.
  Kathleen Berry: Take it away.
  Kathleen Berry: Um, this was our first concept. We decided to use a single touch-screen. So, we've worked out this concepts, how to how to hold it, where to put the buttons and and stuff. And um, well, we began with uh a form of, that is uh is easy to hold w in one hand, left or right handed. So, we made i it a little bit less thick and uh it has some ar artistic meaning. No? This uh isn't nothing. Idea maybe uh is better. Um well, during the meeting I showed you the concept of uh placing the buttons on top, usable with your thumb, and uh the menu structure, uh if necessary, with your other hand, so it's just gonna hold it easily. And it has to be acce accessible with your uh other hand too, of course. So we began uh working out a concept.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, uh well, and as you saw, we would just have the basic remote with the panel L_C_D_ uh screen. Well, these would be the main buttons, h you could uh change them later on in your own profile if you want to. But, well it's standard they will be delivered with this kind of uh set-up. We have the more advanced menu uh setting right here. We the sub-menus and We made a top oh, or a front view. Just so like you wanna uh back view. As you can see, this uh there, there are uh two uh weird bumps in it. This is for uh the added uh effect of uh well uh y youth and dynamic. And uh this is for the artistic effect. Well, what we figured is uh we'll show you a picture later on you have more b a better idea after that. But, idea is for to stay in balance with these two uh with
  Mary Schryer: Hmm.
  Maryann Gallardo: these two. And so when you put it on the table, it will just lay down. It won't uh roll around or stuff. But it will lie more in your hand like an old telephone maybe, or like these old
  Amalia Ortega: Mm.
  Maryann Gallardo: uh phones. Y you you may get the idea. So thi this is about uh how we figured it should be. The s panel we g you would hide with some more uh rubber layers, like we discussed early on. Uh, you would s you wouldn't see the uh straight panel, but more fluidly and
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: round.
  Kathleen Berry: the panel just uh of course goes like this.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: But the overlaying layer is uh a little bit uh curved and stuff.
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: No, okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: And uh, in these bumps you could actually uh put some electronics uh that would you can make a more thinner uh
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: design, and that would actually
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: look very nice, yeah. And uh, about the colour, what have
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah. Oh, we added that this um can be held with your hands for this maximum is om yeah, one and a half centimetres. So, you have room here for your battery and maybe even other um electronic chips. S
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: and you can just be the the layer of the touchscreen and some have some wires underneath it to make
  Mary Schryer: Hmm.
  Kathleen Berry: it as uh thin as possible in the middle for good grip.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, f uh, as colours, do you do you have the picture in uh
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Oh yeah. Now, well this is the idea about uh the bumps. Uh, you can see there's a v a very uh youthful uh dynamic uh exterior. It uh you just want to hold it you uh you are young and uh dynamic
  Mary Schryer: 'S l
  Maryann Gallardo: like
  Mary Schryer: it's
  Maryann Gallardo: us.
  Mary Schryer: like an uh Easter egg.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, it's
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: like an e but this is for children. We we want a more adult version. But, this is like a remote control for children.
  Amalia Ortega: It's called a weemote
  Mary Schryer: Weemote.
  Maryann Gallardo: A weemote. Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Weemote.
  Maryann Gallardo: Hey, that's actually a brilliant uh marketing stand. Uh,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Wait
  Maryann Gallardo: but
  Mary Schryer: what I w got in mind.
  Maryann Gallardo: So this actually basic the idea. We we just want to build a more uh adult vers adult version of of this.
  Mary Schryer: Mm-hmm.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, I can imagine that.
  Maryann Gallardo: And and for colours, we we figured starting with basic colours like uh white or metallic grey. Those are the technological colours actually,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: so
  Kathleen Berry: It
  Maryann Gallardo: it
  Kathleen Berry: would
  Maryann Gallardo: d
  Kathleen Berry: be best to to appeal to a broad public and make the covers exchangeable, so the young people will buy an orange and a red and
  Maryann Gallardo: Or
  Kathleen Berry: blue
  Maryann Gallardo: blue
  Kathleen Berry: and a purple,
  Maryann Gallardo: or whatever.
  Kathleen Berry: but when the o older people uh go in the shop and they see uh an orange um remote control, it would be less appealing than a white one. And young
  Mary Schryer: Hmm.
  Kathleen Berry: people, we think, are a little bit more flexible, they think, ah I'll buy for a couple of Euros
  Mary Schryer: Hmm.
  Kathleen Berry: some noi nice hip
  Mary Schryer: Maybe
  Kathleen Berry: uh
  Mary Schryer: it's an idea to sell it without a cover, so
  Kathleen Berry: Well,
  Mary Schryer: that can a in the
  Kathleen Berry: um
  Mary Schryer: in the shop.
  Kathleen Berry: I think a cover is necessary, 'cause als otherwise
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, okay.
  Kathleen Berry: you'll just
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, okay.
  Kathleen Berry: have the L_C_D_ screen. So, there must be some cheap standard cover,
  Mary Schryer: Hmm.
  Kathleen Berry: um maybe
  Mary Schryer: Mm.
  Kathleen Berry: white or something, that's could comes with it and you can buy, so we can make extra
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: money.
  Amalia Ortega: but uh you
  Mary Schryer: Oui okay.
  Amalia Ortega: d you mustn't forget that uh our target aim is younger people. Uh, we had decided to uh put uh some flashy fruity colours in it, uh and uh in the survey from uh Milan and Paris uh it uh it came out that uh uh the d the older people are uh more willing to uh to spend money on extra features.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: So I think uh it will be a better idea to have some uh flashy
  Kathleen Berry: The other way around,
  Amalia Ortega: fruity colours
  Kathleen Berry: you mean.
  Amalia Ortega: as as a standard,
  Maryann Gallardo: Oh
  Amalia Ortega: and
  Maryann Gallardo: yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: for the people who uh really want uh a more sophisticated, more traditional
  Kathleen Berry: Uh-huh.
  Amalia Ortega: look, they're willing to pay uh that.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: They want uh they want more luxury stuff, but they have the money to do it and
  Kathleen Berry: Mm-hmm.
  Amalia Ortega: they want to b to buy that.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: So, maybe
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: it's an idea to put that as an extra and
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: not as a standard.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, maybe yeah, perhaps you're right. Uh, I I would I would actually agree with this sounds logical.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay,
  Mary Schryer: An another
  Kathleen Berry: yeah.
  Mary Schryer: idea. Uh, maybe we could uh develop a cover uh with wood style.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: They'll please the elder users as well.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Well yeah, a colour of a wood style, a white c and uh a couple of h hip uh fruity colours.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Yes.
  Maryann Gallardo: Nah.
  Kathleen Berry: And lea
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: uh l delivered standard with a fruity colour, but not too
  Mary Schryer: Not not too
  Kathleen Berry: not too
  Mary Schryer: uh
  Kathleen Berry: much. This is
  Mary Schryer: yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: banana and mango, not not purple or p orange and
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, exactly.
  Kathleen Berry: yellow.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah. But,
  Mary Schryer: Yeah. Or
  Amalia Ortega: the
  Mary Schryer: blue
  Amalia Ortega: mai I
  Mary Schryer: or
  Amalia Ortega: think th uh the standard must be some kind of uh uh attractive flashy colours. Not
  Kathleen Berry: Ah.
  Amalia Ortega: too, but
  Kathleen Berry: Mm-hmm.
  Amalia Ortega: w a little,
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: because
  Maryann Gallardo: li like
  Amalia Ortega: that's
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: our
  Maryann Gallardo: like
  Amalia Ortega: aim.
  Maryann Gallardo: this like this. This
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: isn't this isn't too
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: much,
  Kathleen Berry: okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: is it? I
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: f
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Well, the buttons
  Mary Schryer: Well
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: don't
  Mary Schryer: I
  Amalia Ortega: have
  Maryann Gallardo: The
  Amalia Ortega: to
  Mary Schryer: I
  Maryann Gallardo: buttons,
  Amalia Ortega: be
  Mary Schryer: I think
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Maryann Gallardo: I
  Amalia Ortega: all
  Mary Schryer: so.
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, except
  Amalia Ortega: all of
  Mary Schryer: for the buttons it's
  Amalia Ortega: yeah.
  Mary Schryer: it could
  Amalia Ortega: It
  Mary Schryer: be a standard model.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, uh something like this would be nice.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: Okay, that's that's it from us.
  Amalia Ortega: Thank you.
  Mary Schryer: 'Kay, it's my time now.
  Kathleen Berry: It's my turn.
  Amalia Ortega: Mary Schryer.
  Maryann Gallardo: Uh-oh.
  Mary Schryer: Okay. During the Oh. During the design uh design life-cycle
  Amalia Ortega: Sorry.
  Mary Schryer: we uh we made lot of requirements and trend analysis and stuff. Um, now is the time to uh evaluate our prototype concept to uh to the past requirements. So we are going to evaluate the design according to the past user requirements and trends analysis. Um, we're going to do that with a seven point scale. Opening a Word document now.
  Mary Schryer: Okay. One oh, okay, uh I have to expla explain something. We have to uh be consensive about about things. So, it has to be a group uh group decision. Okay?
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, so
  Mary Schryer: Uh
  Amalia Ortega: we gon we gonna evaluate
  Mary Schryer: We're going to
  Amalia Ortega: the
  Mary Schryer: vote. We yeah? The
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Mary Schryer: prototype.
  Amalia Ortega: the the thing we saw.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, just saw.
  Mary Schryer: Okay, one. The remote control is designed for people with age below forty.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah. Seven?
  Mary Schryer: Seven is false.
  Amalia Ortega: Uh, true.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: Sorry.
  Mary Schryer: b one or
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, one I think.
  Mary Schryer: Most
  Maryann Gallardo: Why?
  Mary Schryer: true?
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, it's not
  Kathleen Berry: Mm.
  Maryann Gallardo: just uh designed for people under the age of forty. It's also designed for people above
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: forty.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: so so
  Maryann Gallardo: So
  Mary Schryer: a o one is appropriate? Or,
  Kathleen Berry: No no, a little
  Mary Schryer: more
  Kathleen Berry: more
  Mary Schryer: like a
  Kathleen Berry: in
  Mary Schryer: four.
  Kathleen Berry: the middle. No,
  Maryann Gallardo: I have
  Mary Schryer: Three.
  Kathleen Berry: uh
  Maryann Gallardo: I've
  Kathleen Berry: three or yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, two or three, because it's not just uh the qu question
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: is aimed at is it designed for people with age below forty. But it's also designed for people
  Mary Schryer: Ah,
  Maryann Gallardo: of
  Mary Schryer: exactly.
  Maryann Gallardo: age above forty. So,
  Mary Schryer: Exactly.
  Maryann Gallardo: I'll say it's about
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: three.
  Kathleen Berry: it will be primary
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Mary Schryer: Three.
  Kathleen Berry: appealing to to m minus forty, but
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: also appealing
  Mary Schryer: But also
  Kathleen Berry: to
  Mary Schryer: for yeah, okay. Uh, second. The remote control is beautiful.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah. It's Wow.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, acco according to us, it's one? Or
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: I I think
  Kathleen Berry: it's
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: the marketing uh
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: angle on television.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, p s
  Kathleen Berry: We have a wonderful
  Mary Schryer: Of c of course you have to be uh very positive and uh enthusiastic about your
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: own product.
  Kathleen Berry: Well, it's also fancy
  Mary Schryer: Three.
  Kathleen Berry: then.
  Mary Schryer: Uh, the remote control looks fancy.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yes.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: One?
  Kathleen Berry: Of
  Maryann Gallardo: Yes.
  Kathleen Berry: course.
  Amalia Ortega: Yep.
  Kathleen Berry: We have a perfect remote.
  Mary Schryer: Good. Four. The remote control has big, clear channel switching buttons.
  Kathleen Berry: Yes. Yeah yeah, oh they have to agree but
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Yes.
  Maryann Gallardo: Leads to user face, yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Daniel.
  Kathleen Berry: I'm the User Interface uh Expert.
  Mary Schryer: Uh, teletext buttons and volume buttons?
  Kathleen Berry: Um,
  Amalia Ortega: No
  Kathleen Berry: uh
  Amalia Ortega: teletext
  Kathleen Berry: no.
  Amalia Ortega: buttons. Teletext
  Kathleen Berry: You you've
  Amalia Ortega: is in the menu.
  Kathleen Berry: different
  Mary Schryer: False?
  Kathleen Berry: menu.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, false.
  Kathleen Berry: And volume
  Mary Schryer: And
  Kathleen Berry: is
  Mary Schryer: volume?
  Kathleen Berry: impo yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Volume is true.
  Mary Schryer: True.
  Maryann Gallardo: Uh, hmm.
  Mary Schryer: Big and clear?
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, the
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah
  Maryann Gallardo: they are big
  Kathleen Berry: yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: and clear.
  Kathleen Berry: big
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: and clear.
  Amalia Ortega: big and clear.
  Kathleen Berry: But you could make a teletext
  Mary Schryer: Hey.
  Kathleen Berry: button uh six. Otherwise,
  Mary Schryer: Hey.
  Kathleen Berry: the people who read
  Mary Schryer: Hide.
  Kathleen Berry: this uh are gonna think we have no teletext button.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, but but the teletext button. Yeah, you can ch
  Mary Schryer: It's
  Maryann Gallardo: That's
  Mary Schryer: it's
  Maryann Gallardo: in
  Mary Schryer: not
  Maryann Gallardo: a menu. So, it's
  Mary Schryer: yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: w yeah,
  Mary Schryer: it
  Maryann Gallardo: it it it it
  Mary Schryer: J
  Maryann Gallardo: isn't entirely unclear, but So, I wouldn't give it a seven. I would
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: give it a more a five or a six.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Five? Okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: Uh, I don I don't know. What
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: do you think,
  Mary Schryer: it's it's
  Maryann Gallardo: uh
  Amalia Ortega: Oh,
  Maryann Gallardo: Mister
  Mary Schryer: yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: Project
  Amalia Ortega: Well,
  Maryann Gallardo: Manager?
  Amalia Ortega: I agree. I was thinking
  Maryann Gallardo: Hmm.
  Amalia Ortega: very black and white.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Black and red.
  Amalia Ortega: Thank you J_.
  Mary Schryer: Red.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay,
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: don't forget to save it.
  Mary Schryer: Volume.
  Kathleen Berry: Uh
  Mary Schryer: The remote control is easy to be found.
  Kathleen Berry: Uh well, when we put in fancy colours, yeah and
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, it has these all these fruity colours and it
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: has a strange shape.
  Amalia Ortega: Fruity.
  Maryann Gallardo: So, if you so if you have
  Kathleen Berry: But, um
  Maryann Gallardo: trouble finding it
  Kathleen Berry: it it's not making any sound uh, have
  Mary Schryer: Oh,
  Kathleen Berry: we
  Mary Schryer: okay,
  Kathleen Berry: deciding?
  Mary Schryer: but
  Kathleen Berry: So
  Mary Schryer: If you put uh your normal uh remote control under your bed, or you throw this remote control under your bed, is it better findable?
  Kathleen Berry: It'll make a difference. We have the better re I don't know. Yeah, I think so. My remote control's black.
  Mary Schryer: A li little bit maybe?
  Kathleen Berry: A little bit,
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: but yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Well,
  Mary Schryer: Four?
  Amalia Ortega: we p
  Kathleen Berry: Uh
  Amalia Ortega: we can
  Mary Schryer: Fi
  Amalia Ortega: do it glow in the dark. So,
  Mary Schryer: I
  Amalia Ortega: if
  Kathleen Berry: K yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: it's in the dark
  Kathleen Berry: Fo
  Amalia Ortega: place,
  Kathleen Berry: fo
  Amalia Ortega: you still
  Kathleen Berry: yeah
  Amalia Ortega: see
  Mary Schryer: Ah,
  Amalia Ortega: it
  Kathleen Berry: fo
  Amalia Ortega: glowing.
  Mary Schryer: I
  Kathleen Berry: five
  Mary Schryer: I I
  Kathleen Berry: is.
  Mary Schryer: think five. It's it's it doesn't really make a lot of
  Maryann Gallardo: Well, then uh then I'll go for four.
  Mary Schryer: Four?
  Maryann Gallardo: Because uh four is between three and uh uh also between between
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: true and false.
  Kathleen Berry: okay,
  Maryann Gallardo: Uh,
  Kathleen Berry: you're right.
  Amalia Ortega: I
  Maryann Gallardo: so I'll
  Amalia Ortega: think
  Maryann Gallardo: I'll go for
  Mary Schryer: Yes,
  Maryann Gallardo: four.
  Amalia Ortega: Ah,
  Mary Schryer: but
  Amalia Ortega: you must
  Mary Schryer: five
  Amalia Ortega: see it as
  Mary Schryer: is between four and six.
  Amalia Ortega: uh,
  Maryann Gallardo: Wha
  Amalia Ortega: w uh according to uh the the other uh remote controls, there may uh
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Mary Schryer: B_.
  Amalia Ortega: be there in your
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: uh T_V_ room, this one will stand out, I think.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, that
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: that's a better question
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: actually.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: it
  Amalia Ortega: Exa
  Mary Schryer: it's
  Amalia Ortega: I think
  Kathleen Berry: If your
  Amalia Ortega: that
  Kathleen Berry: uh fifteen
  Amalia Ortega: that's what
  Kathleen Berry: remotes
  Amalia Ortega: it's about.
  Kathleen Berry: in a drawer, uh you find it, yeah?
  Amalia Ortega: If it if this lying on your couch, you're you're you think what's that for kinda orange
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: uh thing.
  Mary Schryer: yeah. But
  Amalia Ortega: So
  Mary Schryer: but the survey under
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: users was that they uh really lost it.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, that's stupid.
  Mary Schryer: Like, no not uh not seeing it, but lost it in the house or something.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: Uh, but when
  Mary Schryer: But,
  Kathleen Berry: you
  Mary Schryer: okay.
  Kathleen Berry: lost it
  Maryann Gallardo: Well,
  Kathleen Berry: you're just
  Maryann Gallardo: if i if
  Kathleen Berry: not
  Maryann Gallardo: you see a strange shape lying somewhere, uh then you'd uh recognise it as, whoa, that is strange.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, mostly
  Amalia Ortega: That's
  Kathleen Berry: when
  Amalia Ortega: our
  Kathleen Berry: you
  Amalia Ortega: remote
  Kathleen Berry: lose
  Amalia Ortega: control.
  Kathleen Berry: your
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: remote
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: okay.
  Kathleen Berry: control,
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: it it's
  Maryann Gallardo: what
  Kathleen Berry: under
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: is
  Mary Schryer: I
  Maryann Gallardo: that.
  Kathleen Berry: your
  Maryann Gallardo: Uh,
  Mary Schryer: I agree, I agree. Okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: so it's
  Kathleen Berry: Most of times
  Mary Schryer: Eight,
  Kathleen Berry: when you lose it you're sitting
  Mary Schryer: the remote
  Kathleen Berry: on it.
  Mary Schryer: control
  Kathleen Berry: Uh
  Mary Schryer: has fresh, fruity colours.
  Amalia Ortega: True.
  Kathleen Berry: Um I would call uh choose two, 'cause we decided not to make
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: two f
  Mary Schryer: yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: uh fresh colours,
  Mary Schryer: not
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: too flashy.
  Kathleen Berry: as it would not.
  Mary Schryer: The remote control is made of soft material.
  Kathleen Berry: Um,
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, rubber, is kind of soft.
  Kathleen Berry: kinda
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: soft,
  Amalia Ortega: but
  Kathleen Berry: but
  Amalia Ortega: not too
  Kathleen Berry: but
  Amalia Ortega: soft
  Kathleen Berry: not
  Amalia Ortega: we have
  Kathleen Berry: this.
  Amalia Ortega: decided.
  Mary Schryer: Three?
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Three, yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah. Yeah yeah, easy to use,
  Amalia Ortega: Easy to use. One.
  Kathleen Berry: very afford.
  Mary Schryer: Easy to use?
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, can it be zero?
  Maryann Gallardo: Well, I don yeah, it is
  Mary Schryer: Top
  Maryann Gallardo: kind
  Mary Schryer: easy
  Maryann Gallardo: of
  Mary Schryer: to use? It's
  Maryann Gallardo: It
  Mary Schryer: it's not the most easy to use
  Kathleen Berry: No,
  Maryann Gallardo: No. Uh
  Kathleen Berry: you can do two, because um
  Mary Schryer: It can be easier.
  Kathleen Berry: it can be easier.
  Maryann Gallardo: It could
  Mary Schryer: Jus
  Maryann Gallardo: yeah.
  Mary Schryer: just with ten
  Kathleen Berry: l
  Mary Schryer: buttons,
  Kathleen Berry: yeah,
  Mary Schryer: that's the easiest.
  Kathleen Berry: but then you'll lose
  Maryann Gallardo: Functional
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: function
  Maryann Gallardo: ability.
  Kathleen Berry: f yeah, functionality and our fancy uh look, so.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, but the most uh
  Kathleen Berry: But
  Mary Schryer: easy to use
  Kathleen Berry: It
  Mary Schryer: is just
  Kathleen Berry: is r
  Mary Schryer: with
  Kathleen Berry: it
  Mary Schryer: one
  Kathleen Berry: is rather
  Mary Schryer: button
  Kathleen Berry: easy to use, because you have
  Mary Schryer: on
  Kathleen Berry: the
  Mary Schryer: t
  Kathleen Berry: primary buttons always visible.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, okay, but easy n not not the most easy to
  Maryann Gallardo: No,
  Mary Schryer: use,
  Maryann Gallardo: it's
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Mary Schryer: I
  Maryann Gallardo: it
  Mary Schryer: think.
  Maryann Gallardo: I I'll go for two. My vote's
  Mary Schryer: Two?
  Maryann Gallardo: on two.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Kathleen Berry: m mine
  Amalia Ortega: two.
  Kathleen Berry: too.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, two.
  Mary Schryer: We also have to compare it to the uh to the remote controls on the market nowadays. So
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, but waits just a minutes. Inspiration.
  Amalia Ortega: What's the time? We also have uh to do the evaluation,
  Kathleen Berry: These are the
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: m
  Amalia Ortega: the production
  Kathleen Berry: regular
  Amalia Ortega: costs
  Kathleen Berry: remotes.
  Amalia Ortega: and uh stuff.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah yeah, I'm uh hurrying. Okay, eleven. The remote control is innovative.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yes,
  Maryann Gallardo: Yes.
  Kathleen Berry: true, one.
  Mary Schryer: A very
  Amalia Ortega: You're agree, Tim?
  Mary Schryer: of course.
  Amalia Ortega: You haven't seen a more innovative uh thing in uh
  Mary Schryer: The remote
  Amalia Ortega: Paris?
  Mary Schryer: control has m remova removable from
  Kathleen Berry: Yes,
  Mary Schryer: Multilux.
  Kathleen Berry: one. Very multifunctional. No.
  Mary Schryer: The remote control, i it has speech recognition. False.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yes,
  Amalia Ortega: False.
  Maryann Gallardo: it
  Kathleen Berry: This is used with speech recognition, this.
  Mary Schryer: The remote control has built-in games?
  Kathleen Berry: Yes. But uh, maybe make it two, because the games are in a sub-menu and not uh it's not an entire
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, but
  Kathleen Berry: game.
  Amalia Ortega: they are built in, so it's one.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, they are built in.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: Not down.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Mary Schryer: And the last, paren parental advisory function.
  Kathleen Berry: Yes.
  Maryann Gallardo: You really like the parental
  Amalia Ortega: Freak.
  Maryann Gallardo: advisory.
  Mary Schryer: Yes,
  Kathleen Berry: Th did
  Mary Schryer: I do.
  Kathleen Berry: you make this or
  Maryann Gallardo: Bu
  Kathleen Berry: the
  Mary Schryer: Save as.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, he made it.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, It changes it maybe.
  Mary Schryer: Okay, I will uh
  Kathleen Berry: Oh yay.
  Mary Schryer: do the the math.
  Kathleen Berry: Oh dear.
  Mary Schryer: Now it's your turn.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, thank you. We'll see.
  Kathleen Berry: Hmm?
  Amalia Ortega: Mm.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, we have now to c uh to calculate the production cost. If it's under uh twelve and half Euro, then it's uh ok uh okay. But i is it if it is b Huh? No, this isn't right. Okay so, Redesign.
  Kathleen Berry: If they're under
  Amalia Ortega: Oh
  Kathleen Berry: twelve
  Amalia Ortega: yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: fifty.
  Amalia Ortega: if they under Yeah. No. Oh yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah? Cau 'cause so
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: it's okay.
  Amalia Ortega: it's sorry. Yeah, if the costs are under twelve and a half Euro, uh then we uh can uh ra uh move on to the project evaluation, as we have uh experienced it. Otherwise, we have uh do uh have to do a little uh redesign uh thingy. So to fill in the numbers of the component uh components. We have to uh fil uh, want to uh do it in and uh see uh if we stay under the twelve and a half Euro. So, do we have uh a hand dynamo?
  Maryann Gallardo: No.
  Amalia Ortega: No. That's
  Maryann Gallardo: Mary Schryer, too.
  Amalia Ortega: zero.
  Kathleen Berry: Battery,
  Maryann Gallardo: Yes.
  Kathleen Berry: yes.
  Amalia Ortega: Battery,
  Kathleen Berry: One.
  Amalia Ortega: one?
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: One,
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: yeah. Kinetic, one.
  Amalia Ortega: Kinetic,
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: one?
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, solar cells, zero.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, uh simple
  Maryann Gallardo: Uh,
  Amalia Ortega: chip on print?
  Maryann Gallardo: n no.
  Mary Schryer: No.
  Amalia Ortega: No?
  Mary Schryer: Advanced
  Maryann Gallardo: No.
  Amalia Ortega: No,
  Mary Schryer: chip.
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Amalia Ortega: advanced
  Maryann Gallardo: Yes.
  Amalia Ortega: chip. Sample sensor sample speaker?
  Kathleen Berry: No,
  Maryann Gallardo: No.
  Kathleen Berry: the advanced
  Mary Schryer: Advanced
  Kathleen Berry: chip
  Mary Schryer: chip is
  Kathleen Berry: is
  Mary Schryer: three.
  Kathleen Berry: uh
  Amalia Ortega: Three?
  Mary Schryer: Three Euros, yep.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Uh,
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah
  Maryann Gallardo: we have
  Amalia Ortega: uh, but
  Maryann Gallardo: one.
  Amalia Ortega: it
  Maryann Gallardo: We
  Amalia Ortega: it's
  Maryann Gallardo: have
  Amalia Ortega: one
  Maryann Gallardo: one.
  Amalia Ortega: one
  Mary Schryer: Okay,
  Amalia Ortega: thing,
  Mary Schryer: one piece,
  Amalia Ortega: it's
  Mary Schryer: yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: three Euro.
  Maryann Gallardo: No,
  Amalia Ortega: Uh,
  Mary Schryer: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: sev
  Amalia Ortega: what's
  Maryann Gallardo: zero.
  Amalia Ortega: the sample sensor?
  Maryann Gallardo: Well, that's um
  Mary Schryer: Speech recognition,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: you
  Maryann Gallardo: speech
  Mary Schryer: I
  Kathleen Berry: give
  Mary Schryer: think.
  Maryann Gallardo: recognition
  Kathleen Berry: it a sample,
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: and s
  Kathleen Berry: uh one.
  Amalia Ortega: Zero. Uh, uncurved flat.
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Mary Schryer: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: A zero.
  Amalia Ortega: No. But is it s
  Mary Schryer: No.
  Kathleen Berry: You
  Amalia Ortega: it's
  Kathleen Berry: no.
  Amalia Ortega: not made from a single uncurved thingy
  Maryann Gallardo: No.
  Amalia Ortega: and
  Maryann Gallardo: No.
  Amalia Ortega: then uh
  Mary Schryer: Thingy.
  Amalia Ortega: and then uh no? Okay. So it's only uh once double-curved.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Yes,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, 'cause
  Mary Schryer: three.
  Kathleen Berry: um the
  Mary Schryer: Eight.
  Kathleen Berry: layer around it fits around the bubbles on the o on the uh
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: the back
  Amalia Ortega: We're
  Kathleen Berry: of
  Amalia Ortega: now in a
  Kathleen Berry: the
  Amalia Ortega: problem, 'cause uh we have uh reached eleven Euro
  Kathleen Berry: Uh,
  Amalia Ortega: yet.
  Kathleen Berry: we don't have anything else. So
  Mary Schryer: Okay, go on.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Mary Schryer: Just
  Amalia Ortega: but
  Mary Schryer: go on.
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Maryann Gallardo: Just
  Amalia Ortega: we
  Maryann Gallardo: go
  Amalia Ortega: have
  Maryann Gallardo: on. Then we'll see uh we'll we'll see uh wha how much we are over budget.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: Could you step a little to the
  Mary Schryer: Two.
  Kathleen Berry: right ma Yeah. Oh, sorry.
  Mary Schryer: Two.
  Amalia Ortega: Uh, rubber.
  Kathleen Berry: Or
  Amalia Ortega: You.
  Maryann Gallardo: Zero.
  Kathleen Berry: And
  Amalia Ortega: Titanium,
  Kathleen Berry: zero.
  Amalia Ortega: no?
  Kathleen Berry: Special uh is the special
  Amalia Ortega: Special
  Kathleen Berry: colour?
  Amalia Ortega: colour?
  Kathleen Berry: Mm.
  Maryann Gallardo: I don't think so. No,
  Mary Schryer: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: this is a standard colour.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yes,
  Mary Schryer: S
  Maryann Gallardo: this is a special
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: colour.
  Amalia Ortega: but we want to make uh the wood colours, uh that uh
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, if if you're honest, we'll uh type one,
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, but
  Kathleen Berry: special colour.
  Maryann Gallardo: That's
  Mary Schryer: but
  Maryann Gallardo: an add-on.
  Mary Schryer: D but Daniel, tha
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Mary Schryer: that's
  Amalia Ortega: one.
  Mary Schryer: that's another brand. That's another article to sell.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, but we we going to yeah yeah, that's true. But yeah, it's it's
  Kathleen Berry: Uh,
  Mary Schryer: That doesn't
  Amalia Ortega: it
  Kathleen Berry: j
  Mary Schryer: account for this.
  Kathleen Berry: maybe we'll finish
  Mary Schryer: Producing
  Kathleen Berry: uh the
  Mary Schryer: this.
  Kathleen Berry: the list first and then look back,
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Kathleen Berry: aye?
  Amalia Ortega: the push-button, no.
  Kathleen Berry: No. Scroll wheel, no.
  Amalia Ortega: Scroll-wheel, no.
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Amalia Ortega: No. Oh, no. Yes, one.
  Kathleen Berry: One,
  Amalia Ortega: Uh,
  Kathleen Berry: yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: button, no.
  Maryann Gallardo: No.
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Amalia Ortega: No, the
  Kathleen Berry: Mm,
  Amalia Ortega: the we
  Kathleen Berry: is
  Maryann Gallardo: These
  Kathleen Berry: it
  Maryann Gallardo: three.
  Amalia Ortega: don't
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Amalia Ortega: have a s
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: Well,
  Amalia Ortega: no.
  Maryann Gallardo: we're only four
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: Euro over budget.
  Amalia Ortega: Oh, okay.
  Kathleen Berry: So
  Maryann Gallardo: But
  Amalia Ortega: So, um what's the thing we can change?
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: Well, other
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: case, we can make it single-curved or uncurved.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Uh,
  Kathleen Berry: Mm,
  Amalia Ortega: can I uh I
  Kathleen Berry: single-curves.
  Amalia Ortega: say something?
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: No, can
  Mary Schryer: of
  Amalia Ortega: I
  Mary Schryer: course.
  Amalia Ortega: say something
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: uh as Project Manager?
  Kathleen Berry: Just cut
  Amalia Ortega: The
  Kathleen Berry: off
  Amalia Ortega: kinetic
  Kathleen Berry: the kine
  Amalia Ortega: thing,
  Kathleen Berry: yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: can we just skip it, because
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Or
  Maryann Gallardo: Okay,
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: sure.
  Amalia Ortega: you have to shake it, but that's not really innovative.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, we just put a good
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: battery it it. Mobile phones
  Mary Schryer: Daniel.
  Kathleen Berry: nowadays.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Daniel,
  Amalia Ortega: Yo.
  Mary Schryer: what do you
  Amalia Ortega: Sorry,
  Mary Schryer: think about
  Amalia Ortega: yeah, yes.
  Mary Schryer: Here. What do you think about uh putting a battery in it,
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: but also selling like uh the covers, a docking station just apart from the from the thing,
  Amalia Ortega: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Schryer: so that you can uh put uh rechargeable batteries in it
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Mary Schryer: and just
  Kathleen Berry: But you can use rechargeable batteries anyway, just you s you have to recharge
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, and not
  Kathleen Berry: them
  Amalia Ortega: really.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: manual.
  Mary Schryer: yeah, okay.
  Amalia Ortega: But we if you forget
  Mary Schryer: Just
  Amalia Ortega: about
  Mary Schryer: an idea.
  Amalia Ortega: the kinetic,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah,
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: that's
  Maryann Gallardo: sure.
  Kathleen Berry: a
  Amalia Ortega: well
  Kathleen Berry: cost reduc
  Amalia Ortega: if we do that, we shall.
  Kathleen Berry: Ah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Okay, well you
  Amalia Ortega: So
  Maryann Gallardo: you can
  Amalia Ortega: um
  Maryann Gallardo: go from double-curved to single-curved.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, of course.
  Maryann Gallardo: And that would solve the budget problem.
  Amalia Ortega: Uh,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: b
  Kathleen Berry: so we have to bake
  Amalia Ortega: but
  Kathleen Berry: the ba back
  Amalia Ortega: i
  Kathleen Berry: flat,
  Amalia Ortega: but
  Kathleen Berry: and then
  Amalia Ortega: the single-curved
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: is just
  Maryann Gallardo: It's
  Amalia Ortega: oh
  Maryann Gallardo: just
  Kathleen Berry: No,
  Maryann Gallardo: yeah
  Kathleen Berry: it's
  Maryann Gallardo: well, the single-curve
  Kathleen Berry: it's just
  Maryann Gallardo: that
  Kathleen Berry: one curve and not a back uh curved I think.
  Amalia Ortega: Oh, okay,
  Kathleen Berry: Or
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: Exactly, yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: So that's
  Kathleen Berry: Or
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: are
  Amalia Ortega: wh tha
  Kathleen Berry: these two curves?
  Amalia Ortega: that's
  Kathleen Berry: Uh
  Amalia Ortega: one option. And then w yeah, and then we could have it,
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: but uh it's its' well it's it's r it is the main point of the the the
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, but what
  Amalia Ortega: the look.
  Kathleen Berry: else uh do we have to cut out?
  Maryann Gallardo: We
  Kathleen Berry: No
  Maryann Gallardo: going
  Kathleen Berry: advanced
  Maryann Gallardo: to cut
  Kathleen Berry: chip, uh that's a little bit of problem.
  Amalia Ortega: No, tho uh
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: that that can be done. So
  Kathleen Berry: Although,
  Amalia Ortega: uh,
  Kathleen Berry: can we make it with a regular
  Amalia Ortega: okay,
  Kathleen Berry: chip?
  Amalia Ortega: a little less uh conversation.
  Kathleen Berry: Curvy.
  Mary Schryer: Hey, those ar arcs, why are there for?
  Amalia Ortega: Sorry?
  Mary Schryer: The blue blue uh
  Amalia Ortega: Fill in Just a
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: Explanation.
  Amalia Ortega: explanation.
  Kathleen Berry: Twelve fifty.
  Amalia Ortega: I
  Kathleen Berry: Well
  Amalia Ortega: can delete it for you if you want.
  Mary Schryer: No, no no.
  Amalia Ortega: So, if we do this, uh we're on uh twelve and a half Euro. And we're done.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, but does it fit with our design? Do we have to u adapt
  Amalia Ortega: Uh
  Kathleen Berry: it?
  Amalia Ortega: well, the only uh thing that don't
  Kathleen Berry: It's single-curves.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, single-curved,
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: W
  Amalia Ortega: but there's a curve in it. So
  Kathleen Berry: Could we just make the bubbles uh cut off the back, and then we're uh has
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, we just make it flat.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay.
  Mary Schryer: But,
  Maryann Gallardo: But, you
  Mary Schryer: wha
  Maryann Gallardo: do l
  Mary Schryer: 'Kay, look, what is the uh If you make it double-curved, it costs one Euro
  Kathleen Berry: More.
  Mary Schryer: more.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: But
  Kathleen Berry: You make it optional.
  Mary Schryer: No, but does it have a lot of extra
  Maryann Gallardo: Function.
  Mary Schryer: uh
  Kathleen Berry: Functional.
  Mary Schryer: fun function more
  Maryann Gallardo: Worth,
  Mary Schryer: like
  Maryann Gallardo: does
  Kathleen Berry: Uh,
  Maryann Gallardo: it
  Kathleen Berry: there's
  Maryann Gallardo: have
  Kathleen Berry: an
  Maryann Gallardo: added
  Kathleen Berry: a
  Maryann Gallardo: worth?
  Kathleen Berry: a athe
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: aesthetic
  Maryann Gallardo: No,
  Kathleen Berry: value,
  Maryann Gallardo: um
  Kathleen Berry: but not functionality.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, it's really
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: a
  Mary Schryer: uh
  Amalia Ortega: static
  Mary Schryer: aesthetic.
  Amalia Ortega: value. Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: I mean, uh you make like eleven and a half Euros profit instead of twelve and a half. But I don't know if twelve and a half is uh a fixed uh fixed price.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, well
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Mary Schryer: No, we
  Maryann Gallardo: let's
  Amalia Ortega: it
  Mary Schryer: can't
  Amalia Ortega: is.
  Maryann Gallardo: assume
  Mary Schryer: go above
  Maryann Gallardo: it is.
  Mary Schryer: that. Yeah?
  Amalia Ortega: Oh.
  Maryann Gallardo: We we should assume it i that it is.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: But
  Mary Schryer: okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: I I figured
  Mary Schryer: Then it's
  Maryann Gallardo: that
  Mary Schryer: okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: the kinetic would be a marketing promotion. R if you uh promote a kinetic um I kinetic remote control, I mean, that would b sell better than an a normal remote control.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah. Do you think?
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, I
  Amalia Ortega: Well,
  Mary Schryer: think
  Amalia Ortega: now
  Mary Schryer: so.
  Amalia Ortega: you can shake your remote control.
  Maryann Gallardo: No, well, y I mean uh, y you can go into your neighbour and tell him, ha, my k uh remote control is kinetic.
  Amalia Ortega: Kinetic.
  Maryann Gallardo: You
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: have standard old
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: battery control uh remote
  Mary Schryer: What
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: con
  Mary Schryer: a what about all the m the environment freaks? Not freaks,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, but
  Mary Schryer: the
  Kathleen Berry: it
  Mary Schryer: envi
  Kathleen Berry: doesn't fit in our co cost profile. So
  Mary Schryer: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: True.
  Mary Schryer: I I think it's it's It look like this one.
  Kathleen Berry: You ma can make an
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah?
  Kathleen Berry: an especialised extra gold version.
  Amalia Ortega: Who because if you want to go to kinetic, you're uh you're on thirteen and a half and you must go to flat, and I think now it's it's more of uh a compromise
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: thing. And if you make the single curve ha just a big curve, then it's uh then
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: it's uh
  Kathleen Berry: just one big
  Amalia Ortega: yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: curve.
  Amalia Ortega: one big good curve. I was going to uh say nasty words, but I don't. This is strange by the way. Wood is m is is is cheaper than rubber. We
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: thought that wood would be
  Kathleen Berry: Uh,
  Amalia Ortega: more
  Kathleen Berry: this
  Amalia Ortega: expensive.
  Kathleen Berry: uh American figures. You just cut down some trees.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, maybe. But uh that this is this is it? Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: This is it.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, this
  Kathleen Berry: Whoever
  Amalia Ortega: is it.
  Kathleen Berry: makes uh a remote
  Amalia Ortega: I'm
  Kathleen Berry: control
  Amalia Ortega: gonna save
  Kathleen Berry: out of
  Amalia Ortega: it.
  Kathleen Berry: titanium.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yes.
  Maryann Gallardo: It is possible, but you can't use double uh curves for titanium.
  Kathleen Berry: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: That's one of the functionability uh
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, well, considering we have
  Mary Schryer: Ah no, we have to do all those hours again. Go back. One back? Costs on uh No redesign.
  Amalia Ortega: Well, we were above, so
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: we
  Kathleen Berry: We sue.
  Amalia Ortega: did a little
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: redesign
  Kathleen Berry: We
  Mary Schryer: okay, yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, we'll start her all o
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Kathleen Berry: all over again.
  Amalia Ortega: um now uh it's about time to uh talk about uh this project. Uh, some uh things. Were there uh room for uh was there room for creativity
  Kathleen Berry: Um
  Amalia Ortega: in
  Mary Schryer: Hmm.
  Amalia Ortega: our meetings or in your individual meetings?
  Mary Schryer: I I didn't think so. That there was a lot of room for it. But, that's mainly because uh of the information that was delivered to us.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: It was just fixed information and get your stuff from there, and I couldn't
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: go on on i on the internet and search
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Mary Schryer: my own stuff.
  Amalia Ortega: yeah,
  Mary Schryer: Bu
  Amalia Ortega: yeah. That's true. I agree with that.
  Maryann Gallardo: Well, I th I think you two, uh especially you and uh and uh Daniel, you d you you both had uh the less creative uh roles
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: in the
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: project.
  Amalia Ortega: That's true.
  Kathleen Berry: For
  Maryann Gallardo: 'Cause
  Kathleen Berry: us,
  Maryann Gallardo: I
  Kathleen Berry: there was
  Maryann Gallardo: think
  Kathleen Berry: a lot of
  Maryann Gallardo: m
  Kathleen Berry: creativity. We could just sign up an uh remote if we liked.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, that's true.
  Maryann Gallardo: I think Jeroen and I, we had a more design we could have more we had more room for creativity than than
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: you two.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay. Uh how about the leadership?
  Kathleen Berry: Uh
  Mary Schryer: Leadership
  Maryann Gallardo: Ha.
  Mary Schryer: was uh crappy.
  Kathleen Berry: Crappy.
  Maryann Gallardo: Nah,
  Kathleen Berry: Cra
  Maryann Gallardo: the leadership wasn't crappy, it was the leader that was crappy.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Nah.
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Maryann Gallardo: No,
  Amalia Ortega: thank you very
  Maryann Gallardo: the
  Amalia Ortega: much.
  Maryann Gallardo: leadership was
  Amalia Ortega: Now
  Maryann Gallardo: okay.
  Amalia Ortega: we're done.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, example of crappy leadershi
  Mary Schryer: No, leadership was uh
  Kathleen Berry: Okay, yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah,
  Mary Schryer: Okay,
  Maryann Gallardo: it was good.
  Mary Schryer: I thought uh the first meeting was a little bit of unstructured meeting.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, that's
  Mary Schryer: Uh,
  Amalia Ortega: true.
  Mary Schryer: you could have but uh, it was your first, no uh no disrespect or something, but you could have uh structure it a l little bit more. So
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: like, I I was talking most of the time the first meeting
  Kathleen Berry: You could
  Mary Schryer: meeting,
  Kathleen Berry: of said, shut
  Mary Schryer: and
  Kathleen Berry: up you
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: fool.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: But
  Amalia Ortega: I notice it too. I was a I was also very uh unhappy, uh very unsatisfied uh about the
  Mary Schryer: About Mary Schryer.
  Amalia Ortega: about the first meeting. So, uh I hope uh uh the the
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: Try to
  Amalia Ortega: the
  Mary Schryer: you
  Maryann Gallardo: learn
  Mary Schryer: made
  Amalia Ortega: other
  Maryann Gallardo: from
  Amalia Ortega: meetings
  Mary Schryer: up.
  Maryann Gallardo: your mistake.
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Maryann Gallardo: And we will never do it again.
  Amalia Ortega: get better and uh I
  Mary Schryer: No,
  Amalia Ortega: think the
  Mary Schryer: it
  Amalia Ortega: the last
  Mary Schryer: you did
  Amalia Ortega: two
  Mary Schryer: better.
  Amalia Ortega: meetings uh also we we reached uh some good decisions
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: about
  Kathleen Berry: more
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: more
  Amalia Ortega: talk
  Kathleen Berry: consensus.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Ev
  Amalia Ortega: yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: everybody w was
  Mary Schryer: Much
  Kathleen Berry: agreeing
  Mary Schryer: more constructive.
  Kathleen Berry: every
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: so uh that's cool. Uh, teamwork? Well, maybe that's uh only Yeah well, it's for us,
  Kathleen Berry: Well,
  Amalia Ortega: because
  Kathleen Berry: we work
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: together on a project, but
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: everybody has his own task.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah
  Kathleen Berry: So, it
  Amalia Ortega: and
  Kathleen Berry: is
  Amalia Ortega: it's wo
  Kathleen Berry: a little
  Amalia Ortega: more
  Kathleen Berry: bit
  Amalia Ortega: like presentation and some points were discussed.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: But,
  Kathleen Berry: No
  Amalia Ortega: really teamwork were you two uh
  Mary Schryer: Two
  Kathleen Berry: Well,
  Mary Schryer: guys.
  Kathleen Berry: it went okay.
  Amalia Ortega: The
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, that went w it went well. It's
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah?
  Maryann Gallardo: it's just uh
  Amalia Ortega: No
  Kathleen Berry: Stupid
  Amalia Ortega: hard feelings.
  Kathleen Berry: stupid
  Maryann Gallardo: Nah.
  Kathleen Berry: pen, but uh
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, we we had some trouble with the pen, but
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah. Now you you must push a little while.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, but
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: but
  Maryann Gallardo: but us
  Kathleen Berry: draw something uh difficult.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: D uh just write your name right now. Try to write your name,
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: in in writing letters, of course, yeah? Yeah, normally, uh this uh the w Block letter sign it, yeah?
  Amalia Ortega: O Just
  Kathleen Berry: Just
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: just write your name in
  Amalia Ortega: okay.
  Kathleen Berry: in one line. If it's a little bit too small bit quicker now. It
  Amalia Ortega: You
  Kathleen Berry: didn't
  Amalia Ortega: can be you can go quicker, 'cause then it it won't notice it.
  Kathleen Berry: Uh he he knows how it works, yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: I
  Maryann Gallardo: Oh.
  Amalia Ortega: follow the Master class for the SMARTboard, so I think that's the that's the main issue.
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: Um, so uh
  Mary Schryer: Means.
  Amalia Ortega: about this one you were uh you're dealing with,
  Kathleen Berry: Y well, yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: um
  Kathleen Berry: Th the
  Amalia Ortega: the the
  Kathleen Berry: i
  Amalia Ortega: the the digital pen.
  Kathleen Berry: The idea is great, but it
  Amalia Ortega: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: doesn't work properly.
  Mary Schryer: Digital
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Uh
  Mary Schryer: pen, I thought uh th the first time I did individual work, I used it.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: But, a and the first two meetings I brought it with Mary Schryer, but I didn't use it at all
  Amalia Ortega: No.
  Mary Schryer: after the first
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: No, I
  Mary Schryer: the first
  Maryann Gallardo: have it
  Mary Schryer: meeting.
  Maryann Gallardo: working. But, uh yeah,
  Mary Schryer: It's
  Maryann Gallardo: well
  Mary Schryer: it's not
  Maryann Gallardo: uh
  Mary Schryer: real real use for
  Maryann Gallardo: No,
  Mary Schryer: Mary Schryer.
  Maryann Gallardo: it doesn't have
  Amalia Ortega: Huh.
  Maryann Gallardo: that much added value to
  Kathleen Berry: Nee.
  Maryann Gallardo: the
  Amalia Ortega: Well
  Kathleen Berry: As uh as I said a m a c few moments ago, it I would like, myself, to write with a normal pen, because must um Yeah, it's almost the same concept, but
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: you can just sim more simply put it on our scanner. I it's the same concept
  Amalia Ortega: M yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: as the pen, where you f have to download the software or s uh very uh
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: slow.
  Amalia Ortega: And it is still your own handwriting
  Kathleen Berry: Yes.
  Amalia Ortega: uh popping
  Kathleen Berry: No,
  Amalia Ortega: up
  Kathleen Berry: and
  Amalia Ortega: in
  Kathleen Berry: it
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: doesn't
  Amalia Ortega: Word.
  Kathleen Berry: give any added value.
  Amalia Ortega: No,
  Mary Schryer: Not
  Amalia Ortega: uh that's
  Mary Schryer: really,
  Amalia Ortega: true.
  Mary Schryer: no.
  Amalia Ortega: No. And uh the SMARTboard is uh useful, but the the pen is I uh not user-friendly, I
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: think.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: not user-friendly.
  Amalia Ortega: Be it it takes a lot of time to draw things
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: and to
  Kathleen Berry: and
  Amalia Ortega: write
  Kathleen Berry: it's
  Amalia Ortega: things,
  Kathleen Berry: it's not
  Amalia Ortega: and that's
  Kathleen Berry: very precise.
  Amalia Ortega: the
  Kathleen Berry: We're
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: trying to m to
  Mary Schryer: like when you do this.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, it may um Yeah, and tr try to wri write your name uh in a in a normal uh size, yeah. Smaller.
  Mary Schryer: Smaller?
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, smaller. Just like when you're writing on a letter.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, but that's not th the the you when you at a foreign audience, you b don't gonna wr uh write
  Kathleen Berry: No,
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: a as you
  Amalia Ortega: small.
  Kathleen Berry: saw on on this drawing, just open open this one or that one. It's uh th it it Yeah, uh we had more problems even here when we trying to draw these buttons, it's almost impossible to get
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: clear uh when you're uh
  Mary Schryer: Oh. Sorry.
  Amalia Ortega: But maybe there's some function with no, it isn't. With uh
  Kathleen Berry: And the eraser was another problem. It w t is is this large. And when you try to erase this line,
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: y
  Amalia Ortega: Well, I'm gonna erase my uh name.
  Kathleen Berry: I'm gonna erase my name there.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, it's a big uh big
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: eraser.
  Mary Schryer: New ideas?
  Kathleen Berry: M
  Amalia Ortega: Um
  Kathleen Berry: Abo What kind of new ideas?
  Amalia Ortega: Well, the the idea of the touch-screen is uh
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, uh
  Mary Schryer: Do you? Go on.
  Amalia Ortega: I'm just uh
  Kathleen Berry: New ideas about uh the working of this software, about about
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: the project, about
  Mary Schryer: Mm, yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: the
  Mary Schryer: I think
  Kathleen Berry: remote
  Mary Schryer: so.
  Kathleen Berry: controls or
  Amalia Ortega: I don't know what what I mean.
  Kathleen Berry: Hello.
  Mary Schryer: Did you heard what he said? I don't
  Amalia Ortega: No.
  Maryann Gallardo: Know what
  Mary Schryer: I
  Maryann Gallardo: I
  Mary Schryer: don't
  Maryann Gallardo: mean.
  Mary Schryer: know what I mean. Oh, I have some figure. Here. The
  Amalia Ortega: Oh.
  Mary Schryer: eva the evaluation,
  Amalia Ortega: Oh yeah.
  Mary Schryer: the mm the mean uh number is uh one point eight one point eight six.
  Amalia Ortega: That's interesting.
  Mary Schryer: So that's fairly uh fairly good, I think.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: because what does it mean?
  Kathleen Berry: So true.
  Mary Schryer: Uh, that uh
  Amalia Ortega: All
  Mary Schryer: all
  Amalia Ortega: the
  Mary Schryer: the
  Amalia Ortega: mo
  Mary Schryer: requirements
  Amalia Ortega: yeah, are
  Mary Schryer: uh are
  Amalia Ortega: between
  Mary Schryer: true
  Amalia Ortega: one and two.
  Mary Schryer: or very
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: true,
  Amalia Ortega: Oh, okay.
  Mary Schryer: right. Yep.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, okay. Thank you, expert. But the new ideas found for uh wi with working with this uh software?
  Kathleen Berry: Not really,
  Amalia Ortega: Not
  Kathleen Berry: just
  Amalia Ortega: really, yeah?
  Kathleen Berry: they have to improve it. Uh, the concept is okay,
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, I think
  Kathleen Berry: but it has to be quicker. Uh, it is still opening my programme, n almo almost uh my entire computer is locked up during
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: the process and it, yeah, just takes too many time. People will still feel the need to to write it quickly on uh a page
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: and not download it and save it, and
  Amalia Ortega: You had expected it to to be uh more more uh
  Kathleen Berry: More user-friendly.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: 'Cause when you use a pen, you can just
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: draw like you d
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: draw normally, and
  Mary Schryer: May maybe
  Kathleen Berry: you do
  Mary Schryer: the idea you proposed is uh a screen here.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: And draw it, and
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: it's it's
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, that l
  Mary Schryer: placed over there.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: Would be easier. Or at least when you you don't have to adapt to the technology, just you can write in the way you normally write.
  Mary Schryer: Hmm? No.
  Kathleen Berry: And now you have to um keep constantly in mind that you're drawing on this screen. And that's
  Amalia Ortega: Yep,
  Kathleen Berry: a very bad concept.
  Amalia Ortega: yep. Yeah, that's
  Mary Schryer: Ah,
  Amalia Ortega: true.
  Mary Schryer: very bad.
  Kathleen Berry: Nah,
  Mary Schryer: But
  Kathleen Berry: okay, I I it's my
  Mary Schryer: I
  Kathleen Berry: opinion
  Mary Schryer: think
  Kathleen Berry: that
  Mary Schryer: this
  Kathleen Berry: I
  Mary Schryer: is better than regular flip-overs, but
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, it's can be saved easier.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: But if you're in normal flip-over you a lot of people write text. There's
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: no text option. And writing text uh, yeah, you've gotta really do your best to write
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, and
  Kathleen Berry: some
  Amalia Ortega: and maybe some uh functions for uh uh uh circle or uh a square.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: You have to draw it yourself now.
  Kathleen Berry: Or maybe even
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: insert picture. If you have uh some presentation,
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Or
  Kathleen Berry: and you have
  Maryann Gallardo: text
  Kathleen Berry: some
  Maryann Gallardo: function.
  Kathleen Berry: f
  Maryann Gallardo: Just t t type text, and that
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: that would be uh excellent. Mean
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, but insert image isn't available?
  Kathleen Berry: 'Cause then you
  Mary Schryer: Here.
  Kathleen Berry: could
  Mary Schryer: Picture from scanner, clip-art.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: Oh,
  Amalia Ortega: that
  Kathleen Berry: okay.
  Amalia Ortega: that can be done already. But
  Kathleen Berry: So
  Amalia Ortega: not
  Kathleen Berry: you can
  Amalia Ortega: the the the
  Mary Schryer: Hyperlink?
  Amalia Ortega: the predefined uh squares I think uh
  Mary Schryer: Hey, what if you do like hyperlink?
  Kathleen Berry: With uh
  Mary Schryer: Type
  Kathleen Berry: W_W_
  Mary Schryer: type it?
  Kathleen Berry: dot Google dot com. Oh
  Mary Schryer: Re
  Kathleen Berry: yeah. Maybe.
  Mary Schryer: Real Reaction dot N_L_.
  Amalia Ortega: Hmm?
  Mary Schryer: Yes,
  Amalia Ortega: Sorry?
  Mary Schryer: is now is okay. Okay?
  Kathleen Berry: You'll just make a link in
  Mary Schryer: Huh.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Well, that's nice.
  Kathleen Berry: There's one way to uh
  Amalia Ortega: Is it
  Mary Schryer: 'Kay, double-click it.
  Kathleen Berry: Maybe if if you're not using the eraser
  Amalia Ortega: Here. oh.
  Mary Schryer: You're erasing.
  Amalia Ortega: Oh, sorry.
  Kathleen Berry: Something else th Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: Select.
  Kathleen Berry: arrow.
  Mary Schryer: Double-click
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: it.
  Amalia Ortega: Here, that.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay. Well,
  Amalia Ortega: So
  Kathleen Berry: it's
  Amalia Ortega: you have as you saw, you have a little uh Oh, you can Yeah, thank you. You can go uh
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah, okay.
  Amalia Ortega: there. So there the the the functionality is there, but it's
  Kathleen Berry: But.
  Amalia Ortega: not it's not ideal, and it's it's very it costs a lot of time to uh
  Kathleen Berry: To use, yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: to use.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: And that's a pity, if you uh if you have uh thirty, forty minutes uh
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: for this kind of things,
  Kathleen Berry: And
  Amalia Ortega: and we
  Kathleen Berry: that's
  Amalia Ortega: are now
  Kathleen Berry: m
  Amalia Ortega: with four people, but it well, imagine you are here you're with the ten people and everyone
  Kathleen Berry: That's mostly
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: the case, from the over here with the managements you get two minutes to make your case, and if you
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: have to do all
  Amalia Ortega: Two minutes
  Kathleen Berry: this kind
  Amalia Ortega: of drawing, yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Yep.
  Kathleen Berry: You'll rather use PowerPoint and work it out in advance.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: And th the one or two things you have to draw when you're
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: there, just use a flip-board.
  Mary Schryer: What I really miss also is uh is a d is a turtle is a decision uh decision system like um With the evaluation, you have to Polls like, what do you want, a one, a two,
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah yeah.
  Mary Schryer: maybe a
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: a l a little application like uh uh give your own number and click one two three four five six seven.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, just like he said with the with the a screen which you can write, also uh a
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: kind of
  Mary Schryer: j
  Amalia Ortega: voting
  Mary Schryer: ju
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Mary Schryer: ju
  Amalia Ortega: mechanism.
  Mary Schryer: yeah, v voting
  Maryann Gallardo: Oh.
  Mary Schryer: application. Just
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: a little group group decision application.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: But uh, problem is, well you can't discuss anything well you you ca uh you can, but you will discuss a lot less than l like we did now.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: We I mean uh w w w one one person s maybe said three. But, well uh I we said uh, no I w th think two, because this and this, and then you can react uh on it. But
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: if you
  Mary Schryer: okay.
  Maryann Gallardo: you put a three on it, uh just figure well, everybody knows what I'm knowing, so they'll all just put a two on.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, of course. But, uh you can still discuss about it,
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah, but
  Mary Schryer: but
  Maryann Gallardo: it would yeah.
  Mary Schryer: but click it in an application, that's a lot easier to process.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah okay, the for processing
  Mary Schryer: The digit.
  Maryann Gallardo: part.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: But then uh, I think the idea of one person entering it and the rest uh discussing it, that uh isn't that bad idea, actually.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Maryann Gallardo: Not that your opinion isn't valued, but but still.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: Okay, so
  Kathleen Berry: Yo, manager.
  Mary Schryer: That's it?
  Amalia Ortega: Uh
  Kathleen Berry: When
  Amalia Ortega: well,
  Kathleen Berry: are w
  Amalia Ortega: just about, because uh
  Kathleen Berry: When are we going to produce it?
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, tomorrow?
  Mary Schryer: Celebration.
  Amalia Ortega: Uh, the costs are within the budget. Uh,
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: the project is evaluated.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: But, before we going to celebrate, uh I have uh a little question which you can't answer, because uh there must be some kind of end report. I am busy with the end report right now. You might thinking what the hell was he doing
  Mary Schryer: What
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Mary Schryer: is an end report?
  Amalia Ortega: Uh about all the meetings, what we have decided,
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: a r r a report of this day.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Uh, that must be made, but I don't know, here is uh standing uh whoa, we can celebrate now, but the
  Mary Schryer: Oh,
  Amalia Ortega: end report
  Mary Schryer: you ha you
  Amalia Ortega: is
  Mary Schryer: have ten minutes left, I uh read.
  Kathleen Berry: Oh.
  Mary Schryer: You have now ten minutes left to finish up the end
  Amalia Ortega: Okay
  Mary Schryer: report.
  Amalia Ortega: well, that uh that can be done. Maybe we can do it uh together. You can see what I've uh
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: yeah? So
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: I
  Maryann Gallardo: sure.
  Amalia Ortega: I s I will uh put it on a story-board. You can see it.
  Mary Schryer: Um
  Amalia Ortega: Because I think it will uh it must be uh
  Mary Schryer: You you already made a beta version, or
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, it's a three uh with seventy five uh
  Mary Schryer: Pages.
  Maryann Gallardo: Y yikes.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Maryann Gallardo: Seventy five pages.
  Amalia Ortega: just about. Well, just a moment. End report.
  Mary Schryer: Okay, Daniel. Do you want a chair maybe?
  Kathleen Berry: A chairman.
  Mary Schryer: Hey?
  Amalia Ortega: No no no, I'm just uh
  Mary Schryer: Oh, okay.
  Amalia Ortega: you can s you can read it and uh here here it is. End
  Maryann Gallardo: So you
  Amalia Ortega: report.
  Maryann Gallardo: you finished it actually, and so we just have to read it and say yes or no?
  Kathleen Berry: Yes.
  Amalia Ortega: Well, this not nit it read-only. But it's not uh fully
  Mary Schryer: Five minutes
  Amalia Ortega: finished yet.
  Mary Schryer: for finishing.
  Amalia Ortega: Um, this is about the functional design, the
  Mary Schryer: Management
  Amalia Ortega: things
  Mary Schryer: Expert, you have
  Amalia Ortega: yeah yeah.
  Mary Schryer: to change that.
  Amalia Ortega: Oh yeah. I'm uh
  Mary Schryer: Marketing.
  Amalia Ortega: when I said it, I remember I
  Kathleen Berry: It's
  Amalia Ortega: had
  Kathleen Berry: a
  Amalia Ortega: it
  Kathleen Berry: read-only
  Amalia Ortega: here.
  Kathleen Berry: version.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, but you can save it u the under another name.
  Kathleen Berry: Oh, okay.
  Amalia Ortega: Marketing Expert, okay. Um about the three functions where uh which are most used and uh which must uh immediately be visible on our uh remote control. Um, it must be uh simple to use, very clear what to do, and at the younger people. So, this is really about wh uh what kind things uh must be in it and uh yeah.
  Mary Schryer: Maybe um the
  Kathleen Berry: Uh
  Mary Schryer: The
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, I understand you, I
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: can talk a little bit Dutch.
  Mary Schryer: You Yeah. No, you have to put uh, switch channels uh at the top, because that's the most
  Amalia Ortega: Oka
  Mary Schryer: used function
  Amalia Ortega: okay,
  Mary Schryer: and
  Amalia Ortega: okay, I
  Mary Schryer: teletext at the second
  Amalia Ortega: I really didn't
  Mary Schryer: Oh
  Amalia Ortega: knew
  Mary Schryer: nay, a
  Amalia Ortega: that.
  Mary Schryer: volume changing, second.
  Amalia Ortega: So, this one's
  Mary Schryer: S
  Amalia Ortega: first.
  Mary Schryer: switch, yes.
  Amalia Ortega: You go there and you go there.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: So, okay.
  Mary Schryer: Okay, go on.
  Amalia Ortega: Well, maybe I can then do it one two three.
  Mary Schryer: Yes,
  Kathleen Berry: One
  Mary Schryer: very good.
  Kathleen Berry: two three.
  Amalia Ortega: If the order is in uh is
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: is uh important,
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: that's the word for.
  Mary Schryer: The order.
  Amalia Ortega: Uh, then the conceptual design. Uh, well all the things we have uh discussed, uh the energy, which uh turn out to be uh batteries, so that's
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah. Well, okay, maybe you can add it later
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Kathleen Berry: that we decided
  Amalia Ortega: because
  Kathleen Berry: in the end
  Amalia Ortega: yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: because of the cost.
  Amalia Ortega: Uh, he here it is still double-curve,
  Mary Schryer: Single-curves.
  Amalia Ortega: the rubber, the flashy, the fruity, the removable. Uh,
  Maryann Gallardo: It's
  Amalia Ortega: the
  Maryann Gallardo: not
  Amalia Ortega: buttons
  Maryann Gallardo: double. Uh,
  Amalia Ortega: Hmm?
  Maryann Gallardo: it's
  Kathleen Berry: A single-curved.
  Maryann Gallardo: not double anymore, eh?
  Amalia Ortega: Not
  Mary Schryer: No, okay.
  Amalia Ortega: double anymore. Nay but that this is what um
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah,
  Mary Schryer: Was
  Maryann Gallardo: okay.
  Mary Schryer: initial, the
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: plan.
  Maryann Gallardo: Yeah.
  Mary Schryer: The initial plan.
  Amalia Ortega: And the the added functions like Tetris snake, it's under the parental control, the touch-screen.
  Maryann Gallardo: On
  Amalia Ortega: So,
  Maryann Gallardo: thing
  Amalia Ortega: it's
  Maryann Gallardo: uh
  Amalia Ortega: uh just a summary of what uh we had discussed uh
  Maryann Gallardo: One small thing uh, the added functions. Uh, was it included in the cost? I don't think so, eh?
  Kathleen Berry: Ah, it's very cheap.
  Maryann Gallardo: It's
  Amalia Ortega: Uh,
  Maryann Gallardo: very
  Amalia Ortega: it's
  Maryann Gallardo: cheap.
  Amalia Ortega: very cheap, you you maybe you you you you come at uh
  Mary Schryer: No, it's it's not very cheap, but
  Amalia Ortega: It's very
  Mary Schryer: that
  Amalia Ortega: necessary.
  Mary Schryer: no, but it's a development inside corporation. Like, uh w we don't have to buy parental control. Our own people can
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah,
  Mary Schryer: make
  Amalia Ortega: but
  Mary Schryer: that,
  Amalia Ortega: it
  Mary Schryer: I
  Amalia Ortega: still
  Mary Schryer: think.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: has
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: some
  Mary Schryer: it it has some
  Amalia Ortega: yeah.
  Mary Schryer: cost, but
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Kathleen Berry: He'll
  Amalia Ortega: but
  Kathleen Berry: do
  Amalia Ortega: so
  Kathleen Berry: it
  Amalia Ortega: we
  Kathleen Berry: in
  Amalia Ortega: can
  Kathleen Berry: his free
  Amalia Ortega: discuss
  Kathleen Berry: time.
  Amalia Ortega: that
  Kathleen Berry: So
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: uh
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: we can discuss that kind of things I think with the with the the board of uh
  Kathleen Berry: Of directur or directors.
  Amalia Ortega: What's it what's the company called? I just keep forgetting it.
  Mary Schryer: Real
  Amalia Ortega: Real
  Mary Schryer: Reaction.
  Amalia Ortega: Real Reaction.
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: Real Reaction, yeah.
  Kathleen Berry: You can ask
  Amalia Ortega: Okay,
  Kathleen Berry: your personal
  Amalia Ortega: so uh anybody uh misses something here about
  Kathleen Berry: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: uh
  Kathleen Berry: the end conclusion. But uh
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, okay, that's that's what
  Mary Schryer: Okay.
  Amalia Ortega: I'm gonna write b
  Mary Schryer: Still the end
  Amalia Ortega: between
  Mary Schryer: conclusion.
  Amalia Ortega: now.
  Mary Schryer: That's
  Amalia Ortega: But,
  Mary Schryer: all, I think.
  Amalia Ortega: i in here nothing uh
  Kathleen Berry: Um, the decision to make um the buttons on the top, and the menu on the
  Amalia Ortega: Mm-hmm.
  Kathleen Berry: on the bottom. And
  Amalia Ortega: Yes.
  Kathleen Berry: clearly Yeah, touch-screen you've mentioned.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, touch-screen I've
  Mary Schryer: Yeah,
  Amalia Ortega: mentioned.
  Mary Schryer: but but the the decisions are put in the uh conclusion, I think.
  Kathleen Berry: Okay.
  Mary Schryer: Why we decided to
  Kathleen Berry: Okay,
  Mary Schryer: use
  Kathleen Berry: this
  Mary Schryer: a flat
  Kathleen Berry: n
  Mary Schryer: uh
  Kathleen Berry: yeah.
  Mary Schryer: L_C_D_.
  Amalia Ortega: Yeah, okay, well I gonna redesign uh something now.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah.
  Amalia Ortega: No.
  Mary Schryer: Um
  Kathleen Berry: Party party.
  Amalia Ortega: Because I think it will Oh, five minutes from to
  Kathleen Berry: Oh,
  Amalia Ortega: finish meeting.
  Kathleen Berry: before you change anything maybe you um save
  Mary Schryer: Save
  Kathleen Berry: it first.
  Mary Schryer: it.
  Mary Schryer: Hmm.
  Kathleen Berry: You can't you can select file and export and then those J_ PEG files.
  Mary Schryer: Yeah, but then you had the same thing.
  Kathleen Berry: Well, eight. And we have uh, another blank one.
  Mary Schryer: Example of children
  Kathleen Berry: Did we change
  Mary Schryer: remote.
  Kathleen Berry: anything?
  Mary Schryer: Oh wait. Wait.
  Kathleen Berry: Wow. Yeah. It's a new uh commercial logo.
  Mary Schryer: Hmm. That's a pity.
  Kathleen Berry: Don't save it, aye?
  Amalia Ortega: Oh, that's cool, Tim.
  Kathleen Berry: Uh,
  Amalia Ortega: Finish meeting now. Well,
  Kathleen Berry: why are
  Amalia Ortega: I'm
  Kathleen Berry: only
  Amalia Ortega: I'm
  Kathleen Berry: the first five SMARTboard files
  Amalia Ortega: I'm going to finish my
  Kathleen Berry: saved?
  Amalia Ortega: end report.
  Maryann Gallardo: Okay, um hereby is the meeting is finished.
  Mary Schryer: You declare.
  Amalia Ortega: I am the one who can say that. Yeah? Hereby the meeting is finished. Yeah.
Updated Content: Amalia Ortega opened the meeting and went over the agenda. Kathleen Berry and Maryann Gallardo presented their prototype design, describing the shape and layout of the remote. The group discussed colour options and decided to make the standard remote in fruity colours, but with the option of buying different exchangeable covers which might appeal more to older buyers. Mary Schryer led the prototype evaluation and the group were happy with their product. The group calculated the production costs. The group were 4 euros over budget, so they decided to make the case single-curved and not to use kinetic energy. Amalia Ortega led the evaluation of the project process. The group felt that only Maryann Gallardo and Kathleen Berry were able to be creative and work as a team. It was felt that the first meeting was disorganised because of poor leadership but the leadership improved in the later meetings. The group were also had problems with the digital pens. The group helped Amalia Ortega fill in the final report before the close of the meeting.