Extracted Content: Phillip Stamour: Just put it on the deskt desktop.
  Blake Molina: No on the desktop you'll find you should that there's a project documents link. A well actually just there.
  Phillip Stamour: Project documents, yeah.
  Blake Molina: Yeah. That's it. If you dump it in there.
  Phillip Stamour: What's your username?
  Blake Molina: Your username.
  Phillip Stamour: What's your username and password? Mm-hmm. Sorry. Okay.
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Phillip Stamour: There we go.
  Blake Molina: Excellent. Right. Hopefully that's us ready to uh to go. So. Functional design meeting. We'll have to flesh out some of the uh stuff. Um we'll start with the minutes of the last meeting. Not a lot thankfully to say. We introduced ourselves, the of a macro facility, interacting the T_V_ a bit more, um mentioning of bar-code, joystick for user manipulation, um and ergonomics of the remote control as well. Um it's come to my attention the following. Teletext has become outdated due to the populat popularity of the internet. Remote control should only be used for the T_V_. Um due for uh time to market and possibly also cost issues. Um also key is the corporate image should stay recognisable, um f uh your colour and slogan of course is down at the bottom there. Um. Now. Just to say quickly uh I would have thought that only being used for a television the macro facility may now not be required.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: Um or at l its functionality would have been of limited use. So to the point in my opinion anyway that it might not be worth pursuing. Um if anybody disagrees we can uh definitely say so. Um and hopefully we'll just crack on and we'll get everything going. Um I'd like to if possible hear from our Marketing Expert first,
  Phillip Stamour: 'Kay.
  Blake Molina: to help us gain an idea of where we're going to go. So um I'll just load up your presentation from here if you want.
  Phillip Stamour: Sure. Um, sh would you like to I'll just do it from here.
  Blake Molina: Yep. Sorry. Uh. Is yours the
  Phillip Stamour: Um, try second one maybe. Try it, yeah maybe.
  Blake Molina: Oh sorry.
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah. Okay.
  Blake Molina: Okay, right.
  Phillip Stamour: Oh, I thought I put in my last name, I guess not, but.
  Blake Molina: Uh if you that's all right.
  Phillip Stamour: Okay.
  Blake Molina: If you do you want Phillip Stamour to just cycle through it for you or?
  Phillip Stamour: Oh yeah, that'd be, that'd
  Blake Molina: Yeah?
  Phillip Stamour: great. Okay. Functional requirement by Phillip Stamour Ebenezer.
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Phillip Stamour: Okay, so um we did some research, we asked one hundred people their opinions on remote controls. We asked some uh open ended questions, just, what are your opinions on the remote control, got a lot of re responses, and we asked some very specific questions, and we got a lot of good feedback. Please bear in mind this is only a hundred people, so even when the groups are divided into fifteen to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five, there's only maybe ten people fifteen people in each group. Okay.
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Phillip Stamour: So we got some the bad stuff we got, remotes are often lost. I often lose my remote control, the back of the couch, some place, and even if it's not lost permanently, it takes Phillip Stamour a few minutes to find it. Most buttons are not used any more, like you said, teletext is outdated now. I remember trying to load a D_V_D_ player recently, and there were so many buttons, it took Phillip Stamour I don't know maybe ten minutes to to go through each button, 'cause you have to press the shift button to access the yellow buttons, you know there's just a lot of stuff that no one really uses. And if they do, not very often. Takes too long to master the remote control. I've seen some remote controls that are big, they have a lot of buttons, you have to hold down more than one key at one time to do something, they're just not great to use. We just got a lot of bad complaints about remote controls, people do not like remote controls. Some of the good stuff we got. Between the age of uh fifteen and twenty five, most people would be willing to pay extra for voice recognition software. Now don't get excited yet, I've got more to say on that. Most people'd be willing to pay for that um most people want remote controls to be pretty, they want it to be fancy, th they they want it to be different, everybody has a white remote control with black buttons, and a red button and a green button, not everybody wants that. Finally, my opinion.
  Blake Molina: Yep.
  Phillip Stamour: The voice recognition thing is cool. And uh voice recognition, the software, open source software exist already. It's a bit sketchy at some times, uh, you're not gonna get good always accurate results, but for a very fixed number of words, you know you have, how many different words can you have for a remote control, up, down, left, right, channel five, channel seven, you know, how many, you can't have that many words. For a fixed vocabulary it works quite well. I'm pretty sure people would buy it. But after a while people may wanna return it, because if you have to to say som I mean most people use a remote control for switching to channels, and they say they do that about ninety eight percent of the time. Using the remote control, ninety eight percent of the time for changing channels, and that's for flickering through channels. So if you have to say up, up, up, up, if you have to do that all the time, then people might get a bit fed up with that and they may return it. However, oh, because the voice recognition software exists already, there's no need to spend money on research and development, but this does mean the need for microphones in the in the remote control, which is an unusual feature in my opinion. But if we do have the voice recognition thing, there's a lot of stuff that you can uh get rid of. See, you could there're two options. Either you have voice recognition by itself, which I think is a bit impractical for like night time if you wanna be watching television and you wanna be quiet, or I don't know you have a visitor coming round and the remote's only trained for you, it's a bit impractical to have just voice recognition by itself. So you can have voice recognition and a regular remote. But imagine you got rid of the regular remote part, then you can design the remote to look any way you want it to look, because there are no restrictions on physical size, or shape, it it could be as fancy as you want it to be, you know, it could be like a lollipop or something like that, something weird like that. As long as the voice recognition stuff works, that's that's fine.
  Blake Molina: Okay, yep.
  Phillip Stamour: So we have the three birds, that we have the the fancy bit, right, the voice recognition's fancy, it's cool, it's different, it's radical, so, and then we have an extra bit I don't remember so I'm pretty sure people will buy the remote, but is it practical to have a voice recognition system in a remote control, I think is a big question. Um, will people will people be willing to wait for the the period that it'll take to train the remote, 'cause I think it will the remote will uh get better over time with the same user user, but for the first week or for the first two weeks are you willing to wait, are you willing to have a bad remote control. And uh what if you have visitors come round, they stay the night, they wanna use the T_V_, they can't use the remote because they speak differently to you. Um, how do you account for regional accents and stuff like that. Uh, will people return the remote control, I think a lot of young people will buy the remote control, if they have the money, you know, so,
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Stamour: do our audience have the money, but would they return it after a while because it's not as fast as pressing a button, it's not a practical. So.
  Blake Molina: If
  Phillip Stamour: These
  Blake Molina: you could
  Phillip Stamour: are things
  Blake Molina: uh
  Phillip Stamour: I think we should consider. I
  Blake Molina: sor
  Phillip Stamour: think it's cool,
  Blake Molina: if you could speed it up a bit, yeah.
  Phillip Stamour: I'm sorry?
  Blake Molina: If you could uh speed it up a bit please,
  Phillip Stamour: Sure.
  Blake Molina: yeah.
  Phillip Stamour: I'm about
  Blake Molina: Sorry.
  Phillip Stamour: to end, yeah.
  Blake Molina: Cool.
  Phillip Stamour: I think it's cool but there are definitely some considerations.
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Phillip Stamour: So, yeah.
  Blake Molina: Excellent. Right. Um. Hear from Bobby Taylor now I think might be an idea.
  Bobby Taylor: Okay.
  Blake Molina: Um,
  John Rojo: How did where
  Blake Molina: you've
  John Rojo: did
  Blake Molina: got your presentation now,
  Bobby Taylor: Yeah,
  Blake Molina: is it
  Bobby Taylor: it's
  Blake Molina: on
  Bobby Taylor: in
  Blake Molina: the
  Bobby Taylor: the it's the folder
  John Rojo: did you
  Bobby Taylor: yeah.
  John Rojo: get
  Blake Molina: is
  John Rojo: all your
  Blake Molina: it?
  John Rojo: in
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  John Rojo: information?
  Phillip Stamour: There was uh a website,
  John Rojo: Oh.
  Phillip Stamour: uh, right here.
  John Rojo: Ah, okay.
  Blake Molina: Technical functions?
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: No. Yeah.
  Phillip Stamour: G I started making stuff up, then I got an email saying
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Bobby Taylor: Okay, this is a brief run through of the um of the technical functions of the remote. As um is uh the the the presentation is uh already slightly obsolete because I had in mind something that would uh be i be aimed at controlling multiple devices but uh there's still stuff of relevance, so
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Bobby Taylor: press on. I've looked at looked at a num uh couple other uh remote control models just an basic design principles. Um and wasn't really satisfied by what I saw I have to say so this is more sort of springboard for uh how these could be improved on. Um um basically the job of the device is to send commands to an appliance, in this case the television set. Um to save you getting off your backside. Um and there's two main trends in th in the sort of design practice. On the one hand and this uh this particularly relates to its sort of earliest models where with you know i so so many buttons on it so about the size of the television set. Um giving you every possible function that the that the device has, the remote control controls. And most of these functions are not going to be used, it creates a rather user unfriendly interface. And on the other hand there's a user focused approach that pares things down to just what what is most likely to get used. Um With uh a and a and of course there is a certain amount of sort of loss of function here obviously, but mostly that's relatively peripheral functions. And so you go for something that's fairly intuitive to use, and um well f the for the most part for T_V_ remote it's uh tha that would be channel control and volume. Um and if you if you if you are wanting to incorporate uh control of a D_V_ D_V_D_ or uh V_C_R_ presumably into that then there's a play, pause, stop, rewind, fast-forward, record, so forth. Um. My own view is that we should definitely be going for a user focused design. Um but uh the pro I think the problem with a lot of the sort of user focused designs that are about is that they sort of make assumptions in advance about what uh what a given user's going to uh want mo want to do from want it to do most. So, something that's uh something that is more programmable, that uh perh perhaps has the full range of functions available to it but you can then specify yourself what you're most likely to want. Um so that those are then immediately accessible through fairly minimal number of controls, um I liked Ebenezer's idea of including a joystick in that and uh possibly a sort of fairly minimal number of sort of function buttons, and have a disp you then have some sort of basic display on it so that if you're um sort of cha changing from different modes for the device it'll tell you just exactly what uh you know each direction of the uh of the um joystick's going to do or wha or what each function button's going to do. Um, this is actually a again slightly taking inspiration off of uh games controllers,
  Phillip Stamour: Mm.
  Bobby Taylor: you know the Playstation control where you have four basic function buttons that are just marked with um distinctive uh geometrical shapes but the and then dependent on what you're doing with it what game and so on um those uh those functions are then sort of further specified. And so it's taking taking the lead from that. Um.
  Blake Molina: Okay. Yeah. Right.
  Bobby Taylor: That's it.
  Blake Molina: Um, if we could hear from our Industrial engineer, or
  John Rojo: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: Designer.
  John Rojo: Uh, I was still working on stuff, I hadn't got it finished. Um, alright. Click to save in where do I have to save it?
  Blake Molina: If you look on the desktop you'll find that there's a link to the project folder, or project documents. If you save it in there we can open it up from here.
  John Rojo: Um, what I've done with it, I'm sorry.
  John Rojo: Shit. Um
  Blake Molina: Are you finding it okay or?
  John Rojo: I'm just closing it now. where I've saved it.
  Phillip Stamour: Well like if you go to one, uh whichever one you were
  John Rojo: that's
  Phillip Stamour: working
  John Rojo: it there, yeah.
  Phillip Stamour: yeah, and you just click file save as.
  John Rojo: Oh right.
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  John Rojo: right I'm responsible for working design, uh, this is basically the inside going on of the the uh remote control. So we have the energy source, we have the user interface, this this is what I've seen. Uh the sender will push the button, the chip will respond, uh and then the dig digital signal is sent to the T_V_. So uh uh, if you go to next slide, you'll see you'll see uh what do we need on the user interface. Do we need uh many buttons, or do we need l many light bulbs that could be easier to uh to realise which appliances are on or not. Um, or would that take too much power, would we need more um components in there to supply the power? Um, the joystick is another thing, if we were gonna add that, um, there'd be more components to deal with that.
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  John Rojo: Um, so uh we need to I dunno exactly what That's the design of the the the layout of the uh electronic design, but um obviously there'll be more details once we've decided what we're putting on the user interface.
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  John Rojo: So, that'll be decided, I guess. Uh, and the next slide. Oh, yeah Um, if you go to the next slide then.
  Blake Molina: Oh. Yeah.
  John Rojo: I just used the it was a mess, uh I was just putting adding it together at the end there.
  Blake Molina: Ah, don't
  John Rojo: Uh
  Blake Molina: worry about it at all mate.
  John Rojo: Uh so you have the energy source obviously connected to the chip, and the user interface obviously contains everything. You have the switch turn it on, infrared bulb, uh will contact the T_V_ and will have whatever device or D_V_D_ player, the bulb will turn on to say it's on. Uh, so do we need on the control uh different buttons to decide, or different light bulbs, would it be easier? Um, I dunno what we should decide on that.
  Blake Molina: Okay. Well. Oh sorry, I'm I'm interrupting you. Are
  John Rojo: No,
  Blake Molina: you
  John Rojo: it's finished,
  Blake Molina: is it
  John Rojo: yeah.
  Blake Molina: yeah? Okay. Right. Um, right we can probably skip that for now. So, we've had some stuff put forward, um along with the new user requirements, um we've had a lot of kind of input I'd say so far. Um I hear what Phillip Stamour's saying about um voice activated control. However I've got a couple of worries about that. The power required, um and the ability
  John Rojo: Cost.
  Blake Molina: to
  John Rojo: Mm.
  Blake Molina: the cost, it seems like for uh an embedded system, this could cause us issues. Um for example you see that there's fairly robust services on uh computers via uh via voice, I_B_M_ do um drag and dictate,
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: but these require a lot of memory and usually um state quite advanced processor requirements. Um voice activation could be an interesting idea but I think that our Ind Industrial Designer would probably upon some research say that it's maybe not feasible.
  Phillip Stamour: 'Kay.
  Blake Molina: Um that's just my view
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: right now, however the idea of a joystick and then maybe an L_C_D_ which has been kind of put forward so far, it's almost like having a small T_ not T_V_ to say, but if you can control almost all of the functionality from the display, I don't know how much power an L_C_D_ would take,
  Phillip Stamour: Mm.
  Blake Molina: but it might be quite low?
  John Rojo: L_C_D_
  Phillip Stamour: I uh
  John Rojo: on the remote just telling you what's on, or uh,
  Blake Molina: Well literally
  John Rojo: interactive
  Blake Molina: um
  John Rojo: L_C_D_ or
  Blake Molina: if you can imagine the display maybe slightly larger than um those on a a mobile phone, something
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: where you can read an an um fair amount of information, traverse maybe quite a few menus, if we maybe used mobile phones as a good example, they usually incorporate they have the keypad, and then evr all the other functionality is usually associated inside by traversing around.
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: That could be one possibility. Um and then we could have like say the common buttons as you say,
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: volume control, changing channels
  Bobby Taylor: I I was thinking that the remote the um sort of default functions for the joystick would be up and down for uh volume, left and right for channels.
  Blake Molina: We
  John Rojo: Do you think that people will get mixed up, like, they'll be looking at this screen and that screen and then, you know, trying to get everything working, would it be a bit confusing?
  Bobby Taylor: Um I think probably for the first couple of hours of using it
  John Rojo: Yeah.
  Bobby Taylor: um but you know muscle memory's a wonderful thing, um.
  Phillip Stamour: Mm.
  Bobby Taylor: And I think and I think that size of uh display was about what I had in mind. Um though I mean I w I would say that uh we could probably probably be required to um mo most of the mobile phone displays you see these days are colour but we should probably try to stick to black and white.
  Blake Molina: I
  Bobby Taylor: Si
  Blake Molina: would agree with
  Bobby Taylor: si
  Blake Molina: you.
  Bobby Taylor: simply to keep m keep the unit cost down. Um I mean colour could be a sort of subsequent development but uh you know cost a bit of extra money f w w w w w once everyone's got the first, you know, oh colour's out, we'll have to replace
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  Bobby Taylor: it won't we. It does nothing extra.
  Blake Molina: That would be my feeling as well, I think we could possibly create quite a useful user interface. Um
  Phillip Stamour: Sure
  Blake Molina: now I mean
  Phillip Stamour: but
  Blake Molina: I don't sorry, go for it.
  Phillip Stamour: the idea of a remote with a menu or and a joystick I think like I h if I was in the habit of buying remote controls then I would want one, but I think we don't have a specific audience, you know, like what is our target audience, what niche are niche are we trying to market and corner. You know, you know what I'm saying, like, for whom is this intended? Everybody?
  Blake Molina: I think it could probably be aimed at most people who've used a mobile. And that might be just another way of saying try to target most people.
  Phillip Stamour: Most people, yeah.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: might be s you know um we're kind of almost relying on their experience with a mobile phone I suppose.
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: But that does cover a very large section of the people out there.
  Phillip Stamour: Sure. I think that's fair
  Blake Molina: Um,
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Phillip Stamour: yeah.
  Blake Molina: I mean I imagine as well that the actual L_C_D_ and maybe to a certain extent the joystick as well would be for the additional functionality. Which maybe doesn't get used as often, maybe it makes it easy for them to figure out how to um change the channels as in the frequencies and such for reprogramming it.
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: Um and you can still have the main buttons that allow the people to turn the machine on and off, d up and down, it depends, I mean maybe we have the fol um the joystick as a separate one for the other functions then, that there's just a a small number of as you were saying uh buttons that have already been defined.
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: So like we go for the nice standard um up and down for and volume control. So that literally anybody can come along, pick up the remote and still know what do do. And
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: they can completely ignore most of the functionality which would be for say the o actual owner of the the T_V_ and who would normally use the unit.
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: I dunno.
  Bobby Taylor: I th the thing I like about the uh the uh joystick is that uh you you you then basically you can then basically put it I mean for for T_ T_ for T_V_ remote alone, you could put um I mean there are like I say the the the main things people do with a T_V_ remote control is the volume and the channel. You can pack all that onto was onto a single control.
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  Bobby Taylor: Um. But uh but the but then o uh obviously if uh you know I mean with things like ch with things like tuning and channels um you know adjusting brightn uh brightness and fiddly things that no one really bothers with, most T_V_s these days actually have menus anyway so
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  Bobby Taylor: this would be a fairly rational way of integra integrating the uh the remote with the device it's controlling. Um concern about our market. Um, if we are I mean most of the uh of the replacement remote market is sort of remote control rationalisation. Um, you've got twenty different devices
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  Bobby Taylor: in your living room,
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Bobby Taylor: you want one wo y you want one that'll do the job of all of them.
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  Bobby Taylor: Um, if all you're replacing is one of the you know however many remotes you have in your living room, um you know you still need separate remotes for everything else. I just think that uh
  Blake Molina: Well this
  Bobby Taylor: possibly
  Blake Molina: is a requirement that we have
  Bobby Taylor: mm.
  Blake Molina: to stick to I'm afraid, this isn't one that I've just arbitrarily decided on.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: So um this is this is one of the solid ones that has to be obeyed, for now.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: So I can understand your point, and I would agree with you, but this is our design spec for now. 'Fraid to say. Um
  Bobby Taylor: Does that um would that include um access to say interactive functions on digital or cable?
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: I would say so, yes, because then we have to be able to control the remote boxes, and that is a separate unit. Um I think that it I would say that the design spec we've been with is for the television only for now.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: And until we
  Phillip Stamour: Hmm.
  Blake Molina: hear otherwise we should go with just that.
  Phillip Stamour: Okay, specifically
  Bobby Taylor: Okay.
  Phillip Stamour: television.
  Blake Molina: Okay. Maybe we'll hear differently, but
  Phillip Stamour: So
  Blake Molina: for
  Phillip Stamour: the
  Blake Molina: now
  Phillip Stamour: joystick is just for differentness.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: It would be ease of manipulation of certain functions,
  Phillip Stamour: Okay.
  Blake Molina: yes.
  Bobby Taylor: Just
  Blake Molina: Um
  Bobby Taylor: a thought. Um maybe then our market should be T_V_ manufacturers, rather than the public. Try and sell it t sell it to them to supply with um
  Blake Molina: There is that possibility, yes. B However I don't know exactly where we'll be going with that, but
  Phillip Stamour: Mm.
  Blake Molina: it might not even be the avenue of Phillip Stamour, that might be sales,
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: who are not in this meeting.
  Phillip Stamour: It's just, the way I figure it, twelve point five Euros per unit,
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Stamour: we have to sell at least like three million or something like that, not to account for all the the money we waste on remotes that no one buys, you know, like if we made a perf if we made a ks
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Stamour: for every remote we made someone bought it, then we have to sell a lot of remote controls. We just Is this gonna be enough to to sell?
  Blake Molina: Well, something else that you brought up was uh the ability to lose a remote, which as you said you've done, in fact we've probably all done.
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: Um, I don't know if it's a gimmick or not, but have any of you ever seen those odd little key rings where if you whistle, it will beep and you tell you where it is.
  Phillip Stamour: I had
  Bobby Taylor: Mm,
  Phillip Stamour: one of those,
  Bobby Taylor: yeah,
  Phillip Stamour: and my
  Bobby Taylor: I've
  Phillip Stamour: brother,
  Bobby Taylor: seen them.
  Phillip Stamour: and my
  Blake Molina: Um.
  Phillip Stamour: dad, could have beat Phillip Stamour up because it it went off all the time accidentally.
  Blake Molina: Well the other option of course is that um
  Phillip Stamour: The clapping one.
  Blake Molina: the well I was going to say clapping, um Um digital telephones, uh for example, one unit has of course you have to have that base unit, somewhere where there's a button, but maybe it's a button that you attach to the T_V_.
  Phillip Stamour: To a television.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: Something which you when you press that, it would beep to give its location away, on the remote unit.
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: And
  Bobby Taylor: Yeah, I think that's
  Blake Molina: that
  Bobby Taylor: a good
  Blake Molina: could
  Bobby Taylor: idea.
  Blake Molina: be something could um
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah,
  Blake Molina: separate
  Phillip Stamour: that's a good idea.
  Blake Molina: us a bit. And that way, because we're attaching what would be a small button to the T_V_, again say what, it would be a small transmitter, um watch battery type scenario I would say, or something that if it was problems enough you could actually even just um I don't power that might be something that we could look into.
  John Rojo: Yeah
  Blake Molina: Yep. Yeah, it's uh putting a lot on your shoulders there, so I mean that could be something that separates us a bit from the market
  Phillip Stamour: I
  Blake Molina: as
  Phillip Stamour: think
  Blake Molina: well.
  Phillip Stamour: so, yeah.
  Blake Molina: So. To go on from here. Um we have to decide exactly what we're going to do with the remote. Before we leave this meeting, it would be best to say this is what we're going this is the design we're gonna try and get, this is how we're gonna make ourselves look unique. Do we go for
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: maybe a remote contro uh sorry, we're gonna go for a remote control obviously, do we go for a small joystick that would operate say changing channels, up and down, and then, what, another button that would say that it's now being used to manoeuvre round the L_C_D_.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm yeah.
  John Rojo: We're
  Bobby Taylor: Yeah,
  John Rojo: just saying volume.
  Bobby Taylor: I think that's
  John Rojo: Should volume be important in the joystick, do you think?
  Blake Molina: We could use
  Bobby Taylor: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: say the left and right for changing channels and the up and down
  Bobby Taylor: For
  Blake Molina: for
  Bobby Taylor: volume.
  Blake Molina: volume,
  John Rojo: Yep.
  Phillip Stamour: But
  Blake Molina: and
  Phillip Stamour: we have a frequency of how what people use a remote control for most.
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Phillip Stamour: Um, power
  John Rojo: I
  Phillip Stamour: is used like once per hour, channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight
  Blake Molina: Mm-hmm.
  Phillip Stamour: per hour, that's by far the biggest one, and then teletext, is still here, that's like fourteen,
  Blake Molina: Vol
  Phillip Stamour: and volume selection.
  Blake Molina: Volume selection okay, yep, the teletext we're gambling with, and we're gonna say
  Phillip Stamour: No,
  Blake Molina: it's
  Phillip Stamour: yeah,
  Blake Molina: dead,
  Phillip Stamour: okay okay.
  Blake Molina: the way of the dodo
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah, um
  Blake Molina: So we well, sorry, we could maybe even go as far as saying power button, small joystick, L_C_D_, and then what maybe is it one more button to say that you're using the menu system, and with the possibility of pushing down on the joystick to say okay? So we're having very very few buttons involved,
  Bobby Taylor: Actually
  Blake Molina: but
  Bobby Taylor: how
  Blake Molina: navigation around a menu for most things.
  Bobby Taylor: Actually I would say maybe two two function buttons, the y we're now using the menus button and um and an og and an okay button. I
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Bobby Taylor: mean certainly something I've found with the joystick on mo the joysticks on mobile phones is that a lot of the time th the device mistakes you trying to move it in one direction or the other for pushing down for okay.
  Blake Molina: Okay.
  Bobby Taylor: Or vice versa. And that's really irritating.
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: Um
  Bobby Taylor: The o the o the other dis design constraint I think we should bear in mind is that people are you know very much used to using a remote control one handedly, um, so we need to make sure that e even with the joystick, you know something that can just sit comfortably in the palm of the hand and have the joystick just controlled by the thumb.
  Blake Molina: Okay. So um we're actually that sounds like a rough idea. Do we incorporate the idea of trying to f locate the remote control again via a beeping noise?
  John Rojo: Yeah, think so.
  Blake Molina: Do
  Phillip Stamour: Um, I think
  Blake Molina: you
  Phillip Stamour: because
  Blake Molina: mind looking?
  Phillip Stamour: it's so small it might be an uh I mean if we only have like two three buttons it might be essential to have to have
  Blake Molina: The ability
  Phillip Stamour: that
  Blake Molina: to locate it again.
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: So that would require a um transmitter maybe attached to the T_V_, just so that it says find Phillip Stamour, and what, a basically a small microphone um on the actual unit, can maybe hide it in
  John Rojo: Light
  Blake Molina: the base.
  John Rojo: bulb as
  Bobby Taylor: Oh.
  John Rojo: well, no?
  Blake Molina: Sorry?
  Bobby Taylor: So so a small speaker you mean.
  Phillip Stamour: Speaker
  Blake Molina: Some speaker, sorry, yeah.
  Phillip Stamour: yeah.
  John Rojo: And a light bulb? No. To flash. No.
  Blake Molina: Um
  John Rojo: Nah, you'd see it anyway, if you hear
  Blake Molina: E
  John Rojo: it.
  Blake Molina: us we might be better with the sound possibly
  Phillip Stamour: W
  John Rojo: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: we could maybe
  Phillip Stamour: those
  Blake Molina: incorporate
  Phillip Stamour: little key-rings have both, so
  Blake Molina: th e the true fact, considering the cost of an L_E_D_,
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: we could just incorporate it anyway.
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: The L_E_D_s can be surprisingly bright now.
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  John Rojo: Mm-hmm.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: Um.
  Bobby Taylor: Blue ones particularly. Plus that's a nice wee design touch.
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: So by the sounds of it, with what we're suggesting so far, your design um the user interface is still quite open, you could go for quite an interesting design. Because
  Bobby Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: we're only going to have a very few key and you've got you know a small L_C_D_, joystick, e I think it leaves you open to a a potential wide range of shapes, something that can make it stand out slightly.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: Um if you could look into what we've suggested so far, the feasibility of um small transmitter, um and such, maybe if an L_C_D_ screen requires too much power, or such. Ebenezer, um, Marketing Expert
  Phillip Stamour: Well I can give you the frequency, what people what options people use most often, I guess that's gonna be important in the ts defining the the software side of the interface, right. You
  Blake Molina: If,
  Phillip Stamour: want the stuff.
  Blake Molina: yeah if you could maybe as well see what people think about the idea of this minimalist approach that we've taken, where of a joystick to control the very basic functions,
  Phillip Stamour: Okay.
  Blake Molina: and then the idea of manipulating it like you would a mobile.
  Phillip Stamour: Okay.
  Blake Molina: I don't know how easy that will be within the time frame, but could
  Phillip Stamour: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: be something we could maybe look into.
  Phillip Stamour: Sure. Sure.
  Blake Molina: Okay. Um any last comments that anybody would like to put forward? Anything that they think has been missed out. Bit of a wide open question there of course.
  Phillip Stamour: Mm.
  Blake Molina: Feel free to email Phillip Stamour if you think that uh we've screwed something up and wanna get it rectified as soon as possible.
  Phillip Stamour: Sure. 'Kay.
  Blake Molina: Right.
  Phillip Stamour: Yeah.
  John Rojo: So I should just look at um the speaker, the speaker and an L_E_D_. And
  Blake Molina: Speaker and L_E_D_ for locating, um,
  John Rojo: Yeah,
  Phillip Stamour: Transmitter.
  John Rojo: and a transmitter.
  Blake Molina: transmitter
  Bobby Taylor: Actually one one wee thought about that. Um, if we do end up trying to market this to television manufacturers then the um then the transmitter could actually be built into the television.
  Blake Molina: getting the external power source, yep, that's quite true. Um, and something that we can can easily be adopted at the last minute as well I'd say.
  Bobby Taylor: Yeah.
  Blake Molina: The electronics could be s either placed externally or internally, makes no difference
  Bobby Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: to the final product of the actual remote control, so that's good. Uses maybe gives us a new potential market.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: 'Kay.
  Bobby Taylor: You know
  John Rojo: P
  Bobby Taylor: I think I mean if it w if we get a major television manufacturer to say y oh yeah we'll have that, save us the bother, then that's you know vast amounts of sales. Quite quickly.
  Blake Molina: Oh, one thing that we've almost not talked about at all, my apologies for that, um, user interface, we also need to maybe get the slogan in here, um it's,
  John Rojo: Fashion.
  Blake Molina: I'm pointing at my laptop, what in God Real reaction, and such. So um
  John Rojo: The slogan is yeah,
  Blake Molina: Oh, sorry.
  John Rojo: the slogan's we put the fashion in electronics, isn't it?
  Blake Molina: My apologies. No it could well be, I've probably missed that. Um,
  John Rojo: 'S also
  Blake Molina: I
  John Rojo: look
  Blake Molina: think
  John Rojo: cool.
  Blake Molina: that's l almost the last minute thing we can just incorporate into the actual plastic on top. So
  Bobby Taylor: Mm.
  Blake Molina: I'm not too concerned a that we haven't gone into depth about that. But it might be something you could consider when you're thinking about shapes? In fact we might
  Bobby Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: like to put a slogan on, and um
  Bobby Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Blake Molina: possibly the two R_s to signify the company. Rather than real reaction.
  Bobby Taylor: Mm. Yeah. I thought the uh the d the double arc could perhaps uh be the uh the enter button.
  Blake Molina: Sounds good. And I'd say that that's us for now. Okay.
Updated Content: Blake Molina recapped the events of the previous meeting and briefed the team on some new requirements the team must follow when designing the remote. Phillip Stamour presented research on consumer preferences and user requirements for remotes. Phillip Stamour also presented information regarding voice recognition and what demographic finds the feature appealing. Bobby Taylor described the technical functions of a remote and stressed the need for a user focused design. John Rojo discussed the interior workings of a remote. The team then discussed the option to include voice recognition, LCD, and a feature to locate a misplaced remote. The team briefly discussed who they were aiming their product to along with the idea of marketing their product to television manufacturers. The team also decided on some features to include in their product.