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  Dorothy Cox: Okay.
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  Dawn Weaver: Okay. What's your name?
  Jill Phang: Uh Martijn.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, but your surname.
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  Jill Phang: Uh Abbing. A_ B_ B_ I_ N_ G_.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay, thanks.
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  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh.
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  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: but
  Dawn Weaver: Dorothy Cox too, so that's
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
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  Dorothy Cox: Oh. Sorry.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh let's see. Which one was
  Dawn Weaver: So
  Sheryl Giraldo: mine?
  Dawn Weaver: let's have a look, we have forty minutes, so it's it's more than enough. Okay, perfect. So we have Oh no, what's that? So so we have uh forty minutes for this uh for this second meeting, and we have to
  Sheryl Giraldo: Good.
  Dawn Weaver: make uh sure that we going t that we are sure, that we are, that we know what we're going to make uh th what the product is going to like look like. Uh first I have the notes of the last meeting, so I showed uh show them to you. Oh, sorry about that, I just escape this one. How do I escape this?
  Jill Phang: What?
  Dawn Weaver: How do I I escape this s uh presentation?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh
  Jill Phang: Uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: left.
  Dawn Weaver: Ah okay.
  Jill Phang: Just
  Sheryl Giraldo: So
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: And show, sorry. Okay, so let's have a look s at this one. Okay, so the f the f the points we had last meeting was the um Should be a univ uh universal remote control No, that's I uh s I just got a email from the from the personal coach and it should be a T_V_ remote control only. So have you changed that part?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: Um so yeah, it still has to be uh f a r a remote control for kids and elderly. It's it's still the same. Um All these points uh we have to look at. You all know them. But uh there's another point. The um uh the main uh people of interest of this company are forty plus people. So they're old and not younger people. So we have to look at that as well. 'Specially old people, maybe bi bigger buttons or something, I dunno.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, okay.
  Dawn Weaver: Uh so So yeah, that's it, so just you can do your presentation for uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: Which one first?
  Dorothy Cox: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: Oh it doesn't matter, just start with the
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: Mm.
  Dorothy Cox: Uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: Functional requirements, yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: Okay. Well my name is Jens Damman, but we're in a group, and I I will start it. Wait. Um I've used a marketing report on uh the site. Uh I think you've uh read it too. and uh f and furthermore I uh surfed the o the other site.
  Dawn Weaver: I I didn't read i read it, so it's not
  Dorothy Cox: You didn't
  Dawn Weaver: for Dorothy Cox,
  Dorothy Cox: read it?
  Dawn Weaver: I didn't get
  Sheryl Giraldo: No,
  Dawn Weaver: it uh anyway.
  Sheryl Giraldo: I didn
  Dorothy Cox: Oh okay,
  Dawn Weaver: It's
  Sheryl Giraldo: don't
  Dawn Weaver: only
  Sheryl Giraldo: thing
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  Dorothy Cox: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: we
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  Sheryl Giraldo: got
  Dorothy Cox: was
  Sheryl Giraldo: it.
  Dorothy Cox: the only one who get it.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yes.
  Dorothy Cox: Okay it was uh uh uh um um a report about uh an experiment with uh a lot of users. And uh they had a lot of findings in their report uh with statistical uh uh uh thing uh with statistical uh proof. So I um I had three pages with findings and sev a lot of uh a lot of findings. So we can use this uh to uh create our own remote control. Uh seventy five percent of the users find uh most remote controls ugly. Yeah, I think uh uh that's a lot, so we have to make a beautiful remote control. Uh eighty percent of users would spend when uh a remote control will l uh look fancy. I think this fits uh at the uh what what uh Michael said about uh older people. Older people will uh spend more money uh for uh something uh uh what's good. Because younger people are more critical uh about uh uh where they spend their money money at. Uh seventy five percent uh seventy five percent of the users say they zap a lot. Well okay, that's uh normal. I think uh we we have to make uh good zap buttons. But that's one of our requirements.
  Dawn Weaver: The last point is quite an interesting
  Dorothy Cox: Yes, fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons. Um Martijn
  Dawn Weaver: So if
  Dorothy Cox: alr
  Dawn Weaver: we
  Dorothy Cox: already said it.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: And uh maybe our uh fold open system is is a good one, but I don't think it's uh
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, we should have the ten percent
  Dorothy Cox: reachable.
  Dawn Weaver: on the on the top, then you're you're
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah, the ten percent on the
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: top, yeah. That that's a good one. Um uh page two. Remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room. That's exactly what we said about um maybe a home station for uh for it uh to uh recharge the batteries or something. Uh I thought mo maybe we could make a clap system, so when you clap your hands it will beep or something. Uh you must find it
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh.
  Dorothy Cox: uh quickly.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Maybe just a button on the home station. So remote control beeps when you click that button on the home station.
  Dorothy Cox: Okay, yeah. Yeah, we can uh combine that. Uh it takes too much time to learn how to use a r new remote control. Uh I think we must t uh take a look at this. It's only uh th thirty four of the thirty four percent. But it's uh a tough one. Because if we make a ha whole new product, our own style, we we c uh this is so difficult, uh a difficulty I think. Uh next, remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. Yeah, but only if they zap a lot, and they watch over five hours T_V_ or something. I don't We we haven't Uh we mustn't look too much at uh the last point. Okay, last page. Uh the last uh experiment uh was about gadgets, like uh speech recognition. We didn't uh think about that already. And uh an L_C_D_ on the remote control. We already thought about that. Um uh they finally had a conclusion that younger people um uh under an age of f forty five are uh more interested in new features. And but they're more critical. And older people uh want to spend uh more money. But uh they uh they don't want to uh have a lot of uh new features, because they're in their old uh thinking way. And they want to keep the old uh things the old things.
  Dawn Weaver: So we have uh a new uh age
  Dorothy Cox: But
  Dawn Weaver: of forty
  Dorothy Cox: y But you
  Dawn Weaver: plus.
  Dorothy Cox: but you already said that the uh company was about uh forty plus uh
  Dawn Weaver: People. So
  Dorothy Cox: clients?
  Dawn Weaver: yeah, so we just can skip the L_C_D_
  Dorothy Cox: I
  Dawn Weaver: r on the remote
  Dorothy Cox: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: think
  Dawn Weaver: control,
  Dorothy Cox: we
  Dawn Weaver: because
  Dorothy Cox: can speak, uh we can skip speech recognition uh directly, because
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: it's not
  Dawn Weaver: It's
  Dorothy Cox: reachable
  Dawn Weaver: too
  Dorothy Cox: for
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: twenty five Euros.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: Um then I have my personal uh preference. Okay, that's not very good, because I thought about television, D_V_D_ player, stereo and V_C_R_. I had a question about. But it's already out of the question, this. Um my point is, well, I If we ma uh make a a remote uh control for only television, I think it's hard to uh sell it for twenty five Euros. But it's the exercise.
  Dawn Weaver: Because it's too expensive.
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Dorothy Cox: only
  Dawn Weaver: probably.
  Dorothy Cox: only for television uh On the market you can now buy for twenty Euros a remote control for everything. And we only make it for television, so we mi mm we m must made it make it uh very special.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, but good usability, you can use it.
  Dorothy Cox: Okay, I told about the home station. Uh it must be simple, because uh our the the elderly people uh needs to use it. And I I found a motto. And we put the fashion in electronics. And that's uh the motto we are uh referenced to uh for our uh our style We. we have to make a a new product. We have to be um Yeah. One of a kind, I think.
  Dawn Weaver: So it has to look uh uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: Unique.
  Dawn Weaver: uh unique,
  Dorothy Cox: The company is
  Dawn Weaver: but
  Dorothy Cox: about our uh th th their own fashion, their own style.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: I reckon
  Dawn Weaver: But old people are not looking for that.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh I think
  Dawn Weaver: Not
  Sheryl Giraldo: mm
  Dawn Weaver: really.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh
  Jill Phang: I think the main thing is the usability, that's where we can uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: make it
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: a special product.
  Dorothy Cox: to
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: k to keep it simple
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: when
  Sheryl Giraldo: But
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: you Sorry
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Dorothy Cox: I thought
  Sheryl Giraldo: we
  Dorothy Cox: about
  Sheryl Giraldo: also
  Dorothy Cox: it, yes.
  Sheryl Giraldo: have to stand out, 'cause there are already, like you said, so many controls out that support lot of stuff. But we have to make sure that we're better usability, and stand out by just looks of it. So make it just a different colour or different shape,
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: so
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: Okay, this was uh my presentation.
  Dawn Weaver: Thanks.
  Jill Phang: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: I don't Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: So Paul,
  Dorothy Cox: You can
  Dawn Weaver: you
  Dorothy Cox: ask
  Dawn Weaver: can
  Dorothy Cox: some
  Dawn Weaver: do
  Dorothy Cox: questions
  Dawn Weaver: the next one if you want.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: or something.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah well Uh.
  Dawn Weaver: It's on the on the uh net net
  Sheryl Giraldo: There
  Dawn Weaver: uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: it is.
  Dawn Weaver: thing, isn't it?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay. Technical functions design. Okay, well, so we have s mm uh broad audience. Isn't that isn't true anymore. But um we have elderly people, so we need to keep it simple. Uh the way I want to keep it simple is to use the sen uh standard. So standardised uh methods like uh on all uh remote controls. Not too full, like uh Jens already said, only ten percent is being used.
  Dawn Weaver: So what do you think of only the numbers and the on-off button or
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, I have it on the next page. But
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: yes uh basic functions like numbers and that sort of stuff. Um so the options that we put on there should be easy to use, and 'cause you have more room then, and for elderly people big buttons. Uh an icon on it or text on it, so it's very clear what that buttons does. So it doesn't take much time to figure out uh how to use it. Um a way to find out uh what people use is maybe just to use uh questionnaires on the internet or just ask some random people, elderly people what they use, what they want on a remote control
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: to find out. But there is already in a one done. Of functions I could think of. Uh volume, channels, the the basic according to. Just one two three etcetera. Uh text service options. Um basic on-off. And I found an uh Could I think of favourites? I always look up the same um pages on text and always have to click the number.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: But if you could make a new option, that you just have to press one button and you get on your
  Jill Phang: Yeah, but then you have to remember what favourite is what channel. So you might as well remember the number. Or not?
  Sheryl Giraldo: No
  Dawn Weaver: Maybe
  Sheryl Giraldo: y
  Dawn Weaver: i maybe it's too complicated, but not sure.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well
  Dawn Weaver: It's a good
  Sheryl Giraldo: it's
  Dawn Weaver: idea,
  Sheryl Giraldo: It
  Dawn Weaver: but
  Sheryl Giraldo: was just a thought. So I'm, I u I would find it handy, I think, when you just press one button and you get on six six six.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, okay. But um can you remember what uh channel uh connects to what
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well
  Jill Phang: favourite
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Jill Phang: button?
  Dawn Weaver: Uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: what I was reading on the page. Uh a remote control just sends commands, basics commands to uh the television. So switch to channel six.
  Jill Phang: Yeah?
  Sheryl Giraldo: So uh button six says says six. And if you make favourites, it can say six six six in a row. Just numbers. That
  Jill Phang: Yeah
  Sheryl Giraldo: can
  Jill Phang: okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: be
  Jill Phang: But
  Sheryl Giraldo: in
  Jill Phang: uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: the
  Jill Phang: uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: in the
  Jill Phang: for a user to to remember, if I press that button it goes to that channel.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well if you said a favourite
  Jill Phang: Yeah, but isn't it hard to remember? Like favourite one and
  Dawn Weaver: Uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well
  Dawn Weaver: mayb
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  Jill Phang: hard
  Dawn Weaver: use my telephone,
  Jill Phang: as
  Dawn Weaver: I never use those buttons to to to call
  Sheryl Giraldo: Never?
  Dawn Weaver: sh Never.
  Jill Phang: No, neither
  Sheryl Giraldo: Oh.
  Jill Phang: do I.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Oh
  Dawn Weaver: So
  Sheryl Giraldo: are you?
  Dawn Weaver: And
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay now, m maybe not.
  Dawn Weaver: If I don't do it, maybe old people
  Sheryl Giraldo: No, maybe elderly people uh.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, I
  Sheryl Giraldo: Right.
  Jill Phang: dunno.
  Sheryl Giraldo: They don't like new features. So maybe not.
  Dorothy Cox: Mm-hmm.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Um well play, pause. I dunno if that's usable
  Dawn Weaver: It's not, it's
  Sheryl Giraldo: when
  Dawn Weaver: still not It's not anymore n
  Sheryl Giraldo: Not
  Dawn Weaver: uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: anymore for T_V_. Right, on off. I dunno, miss Did I miss any other buttons, basic buttons?
  Dorothy Cox: Um
  Sheryl Giraldo: I couldn't think of any other, 'specially not for T_V_.
  Dawn Weaver: Just on the front as well. No, that's the only th the only thing you need.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Is
  Jill Phang: Uh uh the p uh next and previous. Previous I know, but next channel?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Just the
  Jill Phang: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: channel
  Jill Phang: don't thi
  Sheryl Giraldo: um uh What I mean is
  Dorothy Cox: Forward.
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Jill Phang: Li like a web
  Sheryl Giraldo: Six
  Jill Phang: browser,
  Sheryl Giraldo: seven
  Jill Phang: so
  Sheryl Giraldo: eight
  Jill Phang: Oh, okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: or
  Dawn Weaver: Just
  Sheryl Giraldo: five.
  Jill Phang: But
  Dawn Weaver: very
  Jill Phang: uh
  Dawn Weaver: simple.
  Jill Phang: um there's also a button to uh go to the channel you've been before. Like a web browser back
  Sheryl Giraldo: Um
  Jill Phang: button.
  Sheryl Giraldo: I dunno.
  Dawn Weaver: Uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: I don't have Uh
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: I
  Dawn Weaver: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: did
  Dawn Weaver: know what it is, but I think it's all
  Dorothy Cox: No.
  Dawn Weaver: too difficult
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, I don't
  Dawn Weaver: for old
  Sheryl Giraldo: think you
  Dawn Weaver: people.
  Sheryl Giraldo: use
  Dorothy Cox: Uh
  Jill Phang: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: that. Y only
  Jill Phang: okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: when you want to go to Yeah, just use uh when you wanna switch between channels all the time.
  Dawn Weaver: And
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: how do you want to uh do it, like if you have a channel above ten? Normally you can press one,
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: zero
  Sheryl Giraldo: I think
  Dawn Weaver: or
  Sheryl Giraldo: um f Especially for older peo elderly people use standard buttons. So you have that uh
  Dawn Weaver: A ten plus or
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, the ten plus button. Just uh one one pressing, or quickly after each other.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: To just keep it simple and standard uh features.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, w wouldn't it be a problem to uh Because you h have to be fast enough. Maybe the elderly people
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh yeah mayb
  Dorothy Cox: It gets some seconds.
  Sheryl Giraldo: But I think that's in the T_V_ as well. That's how the uh the T_V_ T_V_ handles it. But you can have a button that says um two
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: Oh
  Dorothy Cox: it's
  Jill Phang: okay.
  Dorothy Cox: it's no
  Sheryl Giraldo: two st
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: it's
  Sheryl Giraldo: two
  Dorothy Cox: not
  Sheryl Giraldo: stripes.
  Dorothy Cox: a
  Sheryl Giraldo: So you have uh like a
  Jill Phang: Yeah, but
  Sheryl Giraldo: five
  Jill Phang: that's
  Sheryl Giraldo: seconds
  Jill Phang: th mm
  Sheryl Giraldo: period to press those two buttons.
  Dorothy Cox: It's what Paul says. It's not a remote control uh uh that um uh makes the T_V_ um do one two. It's the T_V_ who depends that it must
  Jill Phang: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: be two seconds or three seconds or one second that you must uh type one
  Sheryl Giraldo: So if
  Dorothy Cox: or
  Sheryl Giraldo: you
  Dorothy Cox: two.
  Sheryl Giraldo: have a
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: universal T_V_ controller, you needed one button that has two uh stripes.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: So we have a a period of, I dunno, five seconds to press those buttons, and that
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: And not for elderly people to look, one two uh press and aim and
  Dawn Weaver: But do we still need a two level remote control? Because if we only have
  Dorothy Cox: It's
  Dawn Weaver: that
  Dorothy Cox: only
  Dawn Weaver: l
  Dorothy Cox: for television now.
  Sheryl Giraldo: So
  Dawn Weaver: only
  Sheryl Giraldo: I I
  Dawn Weaver: f
  Sheryl Giraldo: don't think so.
  Dawn Weaver: No.
  Dorothy Cox: No.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh I just thought of another one. Most things in modern T_V_s are also on the menu.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: So you also need a menu button. And then uh navigation uh But we can
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: integrate that with volume and previous and next, so you have
  Jill Phang: I I think you ha
  Sheryl Giraldo: four
  Jill Phang: really
  Sheryl Giraldo: arrows.
  Jill Phang: have to divide between functions you often use, like um uh m maybe uh switch channels and uh volume and k that kind of things, and uh the menu button. Because you n almost never use menu button.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: So
  Sheryl Giraldo: okay, but um
  Dawn Weaver: Maybe it's still still a good idea, I'm not sure. You'll also have to use a mute button to to
  Sheryl Giraldo: mute button. Yes.
  Dawn Weaver: Maybe,
  Sheryl Giraldo: Don't think
  Dawn Weaver: not
  Sheryl Giraldo: so.
  Dawn Weaver: I don't know where where you have to put it.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah well, that's that's I think that's the layers that produce. Now I have to figure out what's uh what to put on.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: What we're
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: gonna use.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: That's right.
  Sheryl Giraldo: And later we can d uh do the design. Okay, uh now my personal preferences. Uh using the standards, basic Um I think that we should stand out uh unique, being unique with the design. So we have to, I dunno, uh make a different shape than usual. So when you are in the shop and you see our T_V_ controller hanging, that it stands out. Not just in in the row when you see all the same uh remote controls.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah. Does
  Sheryl Giraldo: Um
  Dawn Weaver: it have to be Uh it has to be uh with different colours or
  Sheryl Giraldo: I dunno. Different colours um
  Dorothy Cox: Maybe we can give it out in different colours. You can choose blue
  Dawn Weaver: It's like
  Dorothy Cox: or
  Dawn Weaver: a
  Dorothy Cox: yellow
  Dawn Weaver: iMac
  Dorothy Cox: or
  Dawn Weaver: or something. Just to
  Jill Phang: Mm-hmm.
  Dawn Weaver: make it
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah. Well why not? Or
  Dorothy Cox: That's
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: fa That's fancy. That's uh fashion.
  Dawn Weaver: But it looks cheap as well, because it's a small thing. It's only twenty five Euros. It looks very cheap if you make it
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well, maybe you can look at uh mobile phones.
  Dawn Weaver: Oh, you just I dunno
  Sheryl Giraldo: Oh.
  Dawn Weaver: what happened.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Who?
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, we have to look at mobile phones, that's right.
  Sheryl Giraldo: They
  Dawn Weaver: Just
  Sheryl Giraldo: they're uh designed very well. And
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: well basically are the same, just a bit smaller. You think you can't make a T_V_ controller too small, 'cause then you will always lo always lose it.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: But uh well, I think that's a good example.
  Dorothy Cox: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay, we hurry up a bit, because otherwise
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay,
  Dawn Weaver: we won't make
  Sheryl Giraldo: sorry.
  Dawn Weaver: it. Is
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well
  Dawn Weaver: it fin Are you finished?
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, I I'm finished. I think we discussed everything.
  Jill Phang: Okay. Well, the working design. The method I used is uh search the web. Just the web page provided. Um Basically I'm I'm not very technical uh uh educated, but uh I could figure it out. Um basically what happens is you press a button, uh then a circuit gets closed by pressing the button, uh like a switch. And by closing that certain circuit, the chip knows uh what bu button is pressed. So like you press a one, that circuit is closed and uh Then the chip produces a pattern. Like a Morse code to uh And and sends that to the uh L_E_D_. That's the uh light emitting diode, I think. Um and the light emitting diode is uh producing infrared light. That's un uh invisible to the human eye. And uh transmit that uh to the T_V_. However it has also an uh a visible uh diode that's uh blinking red if you look in it.
  Dorothy Cox: Mm-hmm.
  Jill Phang: And that's uh another diode, I believe. Because infrared is not visible. So that's er uh do two different
  Dawn Weaver: So
  Jill Phang: things but
  Dawn Weaver: also have to have a LED li
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: LED
  Jill Phang: I I think
  Dawn Weaver: light
  Jill Phang: so.
  Dawn Weaver: on it?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh j
  Jill Phang: I I'm not sure if
  Sheryl Giraldo: Is
  Jill Phang: it's the
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: same
  Dawn Weaver: it's
  Jill Phang: thing.
  Dawn Weaver: I think
  Sheryl Giraldo: Ain't
  Dawn Weaver: it's
  Sheryl Giraldo: it
  Dawn Weaver: usable.
  Sheryl Giraldo: just to to indicate that it's
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: transmitting?
  Dorothy Cox: that's active.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: So
  Dawn Weaver: Or just a green one, because it's If you use it, it's green or the red, it's r green.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah. Maybe uh
  Dorothy Cox: I I think it's in the case that it's active. It's not uh
  Jill Phang: Yeah, when
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: you
  Dawn Weaver: that's
  Jill Phang: press
  Dawn Weaver: right. But
  Jill Phang: it.
  Dawn Weaver: if you
  Jill Phang: So
  Dorothy Cox: I it's it's just uh the the
  Jill Phang: Two?
  Dawn Weaver: Red's l shows up like something's wrong, and green is like it's okay, you press
  Dorothy Cox: Mm.
  Dawn Weaver: the button.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, I dunno.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Maybe
  Jill Phang: Ma on
  Sheryl Giraldo: depends
  Jill Phang: on most
  Sheryl Giraldo: on uh
  Jill Phang: on most uh uh remote controls it's red.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: So
  Dawn Weaver: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yes.
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: know. Okay, we make it red.
  Jill Phang: So
  Sheryl Giraldo: But maybe
  Jill Phang: I know.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well we don't have to make it red. Maybe integrate it in the design as well.
  Dawn Weaver: You have to The whole the whole uh remote control becomes uh green if you press the buttons. Uh that's cool.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh Oh, maybe it's it is would an
  Jill Phang: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: e
  Jill Phang: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: No.
  Jill Phang: think uh the batteries will
  Sheryl Giraldo: Just
  Jill Phang: be
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Jill Phang: uh a
  Dawn Weaver: No, we have
  Jill Phang: little
  Dawn Weaver: a recharger
  Dorothy Cox: Empty.
  Dawn Weaver: in it,
  Sheryl Giraldo: Oh.
  Dawn Weaver: so
  Jill Phang: Yeah, okay. Uh
  Dawn Weaver: If
  Jill Phang: maybe.
  Dawn Weaver: we can still make that then
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, but it doesn't have to be red. It's just to indicate something's
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: on.
  Jill Phang: Yeah. That it's working. That it's not
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: not the
  Dawn Weaver: But
  Jill Phang: batteries
  Dawn Weaver: it's cool
  Sheryl Giraldo: It's
  Jill Phang: are
  Dawn Weaver: if
  Jill Phang: low.
  Dawn Weaver: it was
  Sheryl Giraldo: it's
  Dawn Weaver: green.
  Sheryl Giraldo: not very important,
  Dawn Weaver: Green or
  Sheryl Giraldo: so
  Dawn Weaver: red or whatever, it
  Jill Phang: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: is cool.
  Sheryl Giraldo: yeah.
  Jill Phang: I know. Just to indicate it's working.
  Sheryl Giraldo: So mm
  Jill Phang: And uh the receptor in the T_V_ senses the pattern. So we have to understand what patterns are used to, you know, to make it universal. So that it can be used with all the T_V_s. We have to really understand what patterns are used, so we can uh o On the Otherwise it won't work.
  Sheryl Giraldo: So we have to uh make buttons for that as well, to make
  Jill Phang: No.
  Sheryl Giraldo: it
  Jill Phang: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Jill Phang: I uh The chip um uh is producing the pattern. So we have to make a chip that produces patterns to,
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay.
  Jill Phang: y you know, to
  Dorothy Cox: An automatically
  Jill Phang: Yeah. That are
  Dorothy Cox: search
  Jill Phang: working.
  Dorothy Cox: function for each television, or
  Jill Phang: Yeah,
  Dorothy Cox: something.
  Jill Phang: or I dunno how it's uh exactly how it works. It wasn't explained there.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well,
  Dorothy Cox: Uh I
  Sheryl Giraldo: I
  Dorothy Cox: kno
  Sheryl Giraldo: I use a universal uh remote control, and list of all the T_V_s you have, etcetera. And you have to put in a number,
  Jill Phang: Yeah?
  Sheryl Giraldo: so it works on your T_V_.
  Jill Phang: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: Oh, I have a modern one. And the modern one you you uh you type uh search, and the LED began to blink blink blink. And uh uh uh after uh a short time the television turns off. And then you know, oh it it's the right one. And you can stop it, and then it's okay.
  Jill Phang: Ah okay.
  Dorothy Cox: So you don't have to search for your television or your code.
  Jill Phang: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: It uh search uh the pattern for itself.
  Jill Phang: Okay,
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay,
  Jill Phang: yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: so we use that.
  Jill Phang: So it uh We have to make a a s a bit more intelligent chip than the standard one.
  Dorothy Cox: Yes.
  Jill Phang: Because
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yep.
  Jill Phang: you have to Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: I just say Can you s just say it again, because I was just looking
  Jill Phang: Uh
  Dawn Weaver: There's
  Jill Phang: okay.
  Dawn Weaver: just a short
  Jill Phang: Well uh y you have this chip.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: That's uh when the circuit is closed,
  Dawn Weaver: Mm-hmm.
  Jill Phang: it produces the pattern. But uh ma basically for uh brands of T_V_ these patterns are different. So like when you press a one on one T_V_ it go go to one. And on the other T_V_ it won't work, basically. So uh basically what you have to do is uh get these patterns right.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: And uh by d uh that can be done by uh just uh
  Dorothy Cox: Changing the
  Jill Phang: cha
  Dorothy Cox: signal.
  Jill Phang: yeah, changing this pattern all the time. And um What he's doing when he's configuring this pattern, this chip, uh is trying to switch off the television. And when it's uh switched off, you can push a button as uh it's working now, so And then he saves that setting
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Jill Phang: and
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: then um it's working.
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah, that's the right uh
  Jill Phang: Okay.
  Dorothy Cox: option.
  Jill Phang: Well uh the components. Yeah, that's a bit technical, and I hadn't I w I was a little short on time. Um but I think I understand it Um. the energy source is uh the battery, basically.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Um that's connecting to all the components. Because it has to be fed with energy. Okay. Uh the subcomponent is uh w I I think it is uh the button pressed. So basically when you press a button, a switch get closed. Um that's connecting to a chip. So the chip knows what button you pressed. And the chip sends out uh the pattern to the infrared bulb. I didn didn't put the description by this one. Th this is a normal bulb. So the normal flashing light.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay. So that's the LED,
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: L_E_D_.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, and this is a LED too. But this one is producing infrared light
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, okay.
  Jill Phang: that's invisible. And this one is producing normal light.
  Dawn Weaver: So we can make the normal one also a normal light. Not a LED light, but as a normal one.
  Jill Phang: Yeah
  Dawn Weaver: To flash up your
  Dorothy Cox: Uh if you if you use the buttons, uh both of them works. But one you can't see and one indicates that you use a button.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, presu Yeah yeah yeah. Because uh when you button press a button and it doesn't work, it can Basically if the battery is low, it
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: won't work.
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: So
  Dorothy Cox: and
  Jill Phang: you have to indicate that it's
  Dawn Weaver: Maybe you have to uh put uh a small light around the button you push. So you see green if you push that button.
  Jill Phang: Huh,
  Dorothy Cox: Mm I
  Jill Phang: that's
  Dorothy Cox: think
  Jill Phang: a good
  Dorothy Cox: it's
  Jill Phang: idea.
  Dorothy Cox: unnecessary power uh you use then.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, but if you
  Sheryl Giraldo: No,
  Dawn Weaver: u if
  Sheryl Giraldo: y
  Dawn Weaver: you do that, you
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: know that you're uh sending a signal.
  Dorothy Cox: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: And it's you
  Dorothy Cox: But
  Dawn Weaver: also
  Dorothy Cox: then have
  Dawn Weaver: know
  Dorothy Cox: to be
  Dawn Weaver: which
  Dorothy Cox: on
  Dawn Weaver: button
  Dorothy Cox: the
  Dawn Weaver: you
  Dorothy Cox: in
  Dawn Weaver: p
  Dorothy Cox: the all uh remote control have to be LEDs.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, that's right. But
  Dorothy Cox: Everywhere
  Dawn Weaver: it
  Dorothy Cox: in the r
  Dawn Weaver: But does it make any difference for the energy you use? You got
  Sheryl Giraldo: No
  Dawn Weaver: still
  Sheryl Giraldo: I don't
  Dawn Weaver: one
  Sheryl Giraldo: think
  Dawn Weaver: LED.
  Sheryl Giraldo: so, but Yeah, i it it will look different, and I think we need to find something else.
  Dawn Weaver: That looks different, yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Hmm.
  Sheryl Giraldo: 'Cause otherwise we will just make another standard, and our uh motto also is
  Dorothy Cox: Is LEDs uh beneath the the buttons?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, w around the buttons, or in the buttons even.
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah, okay.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, but mm like when you push it
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, then then
  Jill Phang: n
  Sheryl Giraldo: won't
  Jill Phang: n
  Sheryl Giraldo: Then you
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: won't see it.
  Jill Phang: You have your finger over the button. So you can see
  Dorothy Cox: It must be around it then.
  Jill Phang: Yeah. Or or m maybe on top of the A green
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: light
  Dorothy Cox: then
  Jill Phang: is flashing
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah. Not
  Jill Phang: or
  Dorothy Cox: not not not here, but
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: here.
  Jill Phang: There. Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: Maybe uh
  Dawn Weaver: The same as a telephone, or a mobile phone, or
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: what
  Sheryl Giraldo: we're
  Dawn Weaver: do
  Sheryl Giraldo: thinking
  Dawn Weaver: you mean?
  Sheryl Giraldo: about it. Uh on
  Dawn Weaver: If you
  Sheryl Giraldo: a mobile
  Dawn Weaver: push
  Sheryl Giraldo: phone, in the dark uh
  Dawn Weaver: It lights up. Everything lights up.
  Sheryl Giraldo: everything
  Dawn Weaver: That's a good
  Sheryl Giraldo: lights
  Dawn Weaver: idea.
  Sheryl Giraldo: up.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Why ain't that on a remote
  Dawn Weaver: It
  Sheryl Giraldo: control?
  Dawn Weaver: it only takes a l a little energy
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: and it's not
  Sheryl Giraldo: if
  Dawn Weaver: that
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Dawn Weaver: much.
  Sheryl Giraldo: a mobile
  Dorothy Cox: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: phone a phone can do it, it's
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: It's f Yeah. Maybe that's a good idea for old people as well.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, i
  Jill Phang: Mm-hmm.
  Sheryl Giraldo: if you're in the dark, you can't see the remote.
  Dawn Weaver: It's only
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: few LEDs. Only four or something. Four LED.
  Sheryl Giraldo: No, I dunno. But if we use a battery station, which I think we will use
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah, I uh
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, that's a good idea,
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: okay.
  Jill Phang: We'll have enough power to
  Dawn Weaver: Everything agre Everyone agrees with that, or
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yep.
  Dorothy Cox: Maybe what Paul said, uh under the on
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Dorothy Cox: the
  Dawn Weaver: and then
  Dorothy Cox: on
  Dawn Weaver: you
  Dorothy Cox: the home station, uh a button to uh to call your uh remote control, that
  Dawn Weaver: Okay,
  Dorothy Cox: it beeps.
  Dawn Weaver: yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: And also
  Dawn Weaver: But you
  Sheryl Giraldo: it's
  Dawn Weaver: have to make a sound device in it then.
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah, there must be sound in it.
  Jill Phang: Hmm.
  Dawn Weaver: But Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay,
  Dorothy Cox: I dunno.
  Sheryl Giraldo: it shouldn't take
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: much
  Jill Phang: B maybe it's that that's a little too hard to make. Especially for that kind of money. Because
  Dorothy Cox: Mm
  Jill Phang: it's
  Dorothy Cox: uh,
  Jill Phang: i
  Dorothy Cox: twenty
  Jill Phang: it
  Dorothy Cox: five
  Jill Phang: has
  Dorothy Cox: Euros,
  Jill Phang: to be
  Dorothy Cox: I think we can
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh
  Dorothy Cox: make
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: I
  Jill Phang: Production
  Sheryl Giraldo: th
  Dorothy Cox: it.
  Jill Phang: cost
  Dorothy Cox: Bec
  Jill Phang: is uh t uh twelve and a half.
  Dorothy Cox: Twelve and a half, okay. But but we only have to make it for television, and
  Jill Phang: Yeah, okay.
  Dorothy Cox: um
  Sheryl Giraldo: I think
  Dorothy Cox: we must have something
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Dorothy Cox: special.
  Sheryl Giraldo: you also
  Dorothy Cox: So
  Sheryl Giraldo: have uh remote controls with a lot of options. But we lose about ninety percent of those options. So
  Dorothy Cox: Uh.
  Sheryl Giraldo: I think you can uh
  Dorothy Cox: We have to give our customers some extras.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: I
  Jill Phang: okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: think we will save money with that.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay. Are you almost finished or just
  Jill Phang: Yeah, the the personal preference, I didn't fill it out. Because
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Jill Phang: I was short on time.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay. No worry.
  Jill Phang: But um Basically what we could do too is uh have a Bluetooth uh integration.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, I just want to talk some about some more. So maybe you
  Jill Phang: Yeah?
  Dawn Weaver: have to Yeah?
  Jill Phang: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: So this Oh, sorry. Wh what's that? So uh Oh, sorry. We have some new uh project requirements. We have to have a look what they are. They're still in um Uh teletext has become outdated since the popularity of internet. So a teletext option, maybe we have to skip that one. I'm not sure. I don't
  Jill Phang: No,
  Dawn Weaver: think
  Dorothy Cox: No.
  Dawn Weaver: so,
  Jill Phang: and I
  Dawn Weaver: but
  Jill Phang: I think a lot of people use
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: uh teletext,
  Dawn Weaver: and it's it's on your
  Jill Phang: still
  Dawn Weaver: comp it's on
  Jill Phang: use.
  Dawn Weaver: your television. It's only one button. So I
  Dorothy Cox: Uh.
  Dawn Weaver: don't think
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: it is
  Jill Phang: Hmm.
  Dawn Weaver: We definitely should use it. Um Yeah, that's uh what I told you. The remote control should only be used for a television. So that's maybe easier. And um the the forty plus people, I already told you. Oh no, sorry. Oh, this is a problem. Oh sorry about that. The new product should reach a new market with customers are the younger than forty. So it should be flashy or just
  Dorothy Cox: Okay.
  Jill Phang: Oh.
  Dawn Weaver: more interesting.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay,
  Jill Phang: Mm.
  Sheryl Giraldo: that's It changes
  Dawn Weaver: I'm sorry about
  Sheryl Giraldo: things.
  Dawn Weaver: that. I just I just didn't read it well. So does it make some
  Dorothy Cox: Changes.
  Dawn Weaver: decision about that?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Um
  Jill Phang: Yeah. That kinda changes
  Dorothy Cox: Uh
  Jill Phang: the whole situation.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well yeah, then we have to make some nice features. I think uh the thing in the dark is a good way, to make it more
  Dawn Weaver: That still
  Sheryl Giraldo: like
  Dawn Weaver: stays.
  Sheryl Giraldo: a mobile phone.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: More modern.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: That's important I think and
  Dorothy Cox: L_C_D_ doesn't work for uh twelve and a half Euros I think.
  Sheryl Giraldo: And I d I don't don't think it's very usable in a remote control, especially when you only have T_V_ functions on
  Dorothy Cox: Oh.
  Sheryl Giraldo: it.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Mm
  Sheryl Giraldo: So
  Jill Phang: ah I I don't y you'll use it often, because you can see on the television
  Dorothy Cox: Oh,
  Jill Phang: wh what
  Dorothy Cox: I'm
  Jill Phang: channel
  Dorothy Cox: watching
  Jill Phang: you
  Dorothy Cox: uh the channel one. Okay. No,
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dorothy Cox: it's
  Sheryl Giraldo: I
  Dorothy Cox: not
  Sheryl Giraldo: tho I think that's not usable.
  Jill Phang: No.
  Sheryl Giraldo: So, but uh Yeah. What other features can we put in?
  Jill Phang: Yeah. I think you you have to make it a bit flashy and and popular. And uh then the usability is not that required, because the Like in the mobile phones, usability is not that
  Dorothy Cox: But
  Jill Phang: good I
  Dorothy Cox: uh
  Jill Phang: think.
  Dorothy Cox: some of you had uh something to read about um uh speech uh recognition. About you said one and the television turns on one. Is that reachable maybe? That's very
  Jill Phang: I didn't
  Dorothy Cox: That's
  Jill Phang: read
  Dorothy Cox: fancy. That's cool.
  Sheryl Giraldo: It's
  Jill Phang: I
  Sheryl Giraldo: very
  Dorothy Cox: Twelve
  Jill Phang: didn't
  Sheryl Giraldo: fashion.
  Jill Phang: read
  Dorothy Cox: and
  Jill Phang: any b
  Dorothy Cox: you've
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: got twelve.
  Jill Phang: Yeah okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Mm.
  Dorothy Cox: Only
  Jill Phang: I
  Dorothy Cox: the
  Jill Phang: I
  Dorothy Cox: numbers,
  Jill Phang: know.
  Dorothy Cox: only numbers. Uh furthermore nothing. But only the numbers, one to twenty or something.
  Jill Phang: Mm.
  Dorothy Cox: That should be cool.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, maybe we have to integrate that as well. If it's possible.
  Dorothy Cox: If it's
  Dawn Weaver: But
  Dorothy Cox: possible, I dunno.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, I
  Dorothy Cox: I
  Jill Phang: don't
  Dorothy Cox: didn't
  Jill Phang: know.
  Dawn Weaver: I don't
  Dorothy Cox: read
  Dawn Weaver: think
  Dorothy Cox: it.
  Dawn Weaver: it's
  Sheryl Giraldo: Mm.
  Dawn Weaver: very expensive actually. Why should it?
  Dorothy Cox: Uh if
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dorothy Cox: i
  Sheryl Giraldo: I think
  Dawn Weaver: You
  Dorothy Cox: if
  Dawn Weaver: only
  Dorothy Cox: i
  Dawn Weaver: have a
  Sheryl Giraldo: it's
  Dawn Weaver: microphone in it.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: I didn't have
  Jill Phang: But
  Dorothy Cox: information
  Jill Phang: it has
  Dorothy Cox: about
  Jill Phang: to
  Dorothy Cox: that.
  Jill Phang: work. And and and does it have to work only in English, or in Dutch too
  Dawn Weaver: Nah,
  Jill Phang: or
  Dawn Weaver: maybe
  Dorothy Cox: Ah that's a problem, but
  Jill Phang: And and
  Dorothy Cox: Uh only
  Jill Phang: uh
  Dorothy Cox: in
  Jill Phang: w
  Dorothy Cox: English.
  Sheryl Giraldo: What
  Dorothy Cox: Only
  Sheryl Giraldo: But
  Dorothy Cox: in English
  Jill Phang: Yeah?
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Dorothy Cox: I think.
  Sheryl Giraldo: I dunno how that works then. Uh does your
  Jill Phang: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Jill Phang: it's
  Sheryl Giraldo: Does
  Jill Phang: probably
  Sheryl Giraldo: it lie
  Jill Phang: my
  Sheryl Giraldo: in the
  Jill Phang: job
  Sheryl Giraldo: centre
  Jill Phang: to
  Sheryl Giraldo: of
  Jill Phang: figure
  Sheryl Giraldo: the room
  Jill Phang: that out,
  Sheryl Giraldo: and
  Jill Phang: but
  Sheryl Giraldo: can you scream from wherever
  Dorothy Cox: No,
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh one
  Dorothy Cox: that
  Sheryl Giraldo: to have in channel
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: one?
  Dorothy Cox: then th we have to think about that. But do do we do it? It's
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dorothy Cox: more
  Sheryl Giraldo: I dunno.
  Dorothy Cox: if we
  Sheryl Giraldo: So,
  Dorothy Cox: if we do it.
  Sheryl Giraldo: is it very usable? That's what I'm looking at.
  Jill Phang: And and do you have to speak in in like in
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: a thing or
  Sheryl Giraldo: Is
  Dawn Weaver: Maybe maybe it's too hard to uh to realise that. It We have short
  Jill Phang: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: time
  Jill Phang: I dunno.
  Dawn Weaver: to to put it on the market, so that
  Dorothy Cox: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: We
  Sheryl Giraldo: Mm
  Dawn Weaver: have to
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah
  Dawn Weaver: do a
  Sheryl Giraldo: well
  Dawn Weaver: lot of testing before we can do that.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, I think so.
  Dawn Weaver: We
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah, and
  Dawn Weaver: make
  Dorothy Cox: uh and
  Dawn Weaver: uh make
  Dorothy Cox: uh
  Dawn Weaver: uh, we can make
  Sheryl Giraldo: It's
  Dawn Weaver: th th the new remote control very flashy.
  Dorothy Cox: In uh indeed uh the languages are a difficult thing. Uh because
  Sheryl Giraldo: I
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: d
  Dorothy Cox: we we
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: have
  Sheryl Giraldo: I don't
  Dorothy Cox: a lot
  Sheryl Giraldo: think
  Dorothy Cox: of
  Jill Phang: And
  Dorothy Cox: languages.
  Sheryl Giraldo: it's
  Jill Phang: and
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh useful enough to take the effort to design something with uh speech recognition.
  Jill Phang: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: and also
  Dawn Weaver: I think
  Jill Phang: if
  Dawn Weaver: so.
  Jill Phang: if you have a good speech uh speech recognition, you can just throw
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: the uh
  Dorothy Cox: A uh someone says that
  Jill Phang: the remote
  Dorothy Cox: uh
  Jill Phang: away.
  Dorothy Cox: give Dorothy Cox one Coke, and the
  Jill Phang: Mm.
  Dorothy Cox: T_V_ turns
  Jill Phang: Hmm.
  Dorothy Cox: uh to one.
  Jill Phang: Mm.
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah, it's not
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: uh
  Jill Phang: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well
  Jill Phang: okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: yeah, that's the right command. And
  Jill Phang: But
  Sheryl Giraldo: then you have to say uh T_V_ channel one, or something.
  Jill Phang: Hmm
  Sheryl Giraldo: Not
  Jill Phang: yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: just one, but
  Jill Phang: T_V_
  Dorothy Cox: Okay, but
  Jill Phang: one.
  Dorothy Cox: th that becomes your f Uh uh because that's very hard for uh speech recognition.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Well
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: I dunno. But I don't think, it just ain't useful enough.
  Dorothy Cox: Mm-hmm.
  Dawn Weaver: So we have to make some decisions. So you
  Dorothy Cox: Okay,
  Dawn Weaver: can see
  Dorothy Cox: no speech
  Dawn Weaver: on the
  Dorothy Cox: recognition.
  Dawn Weaver: uh So we have to know what we're going to put on. Do we, do we make uh a light under the under the n under the numbers and everything? Do
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, I think
  Dawn Weaver: If
  Sheryl Giraldo: so.
  Dawn Weaver: you press something, it lights up for a few seconds, so you can see what other but buttons there are, okay?
  Jill Phang: Yeah, that's good.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yep.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay, we just take that one. And what else, we have
  Sheryl Giraldo: Also the one in the dark. So uh It lights up when it's dark?
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: I
  Dawn Weaver: but
  Sheryl Giraldo: didn't
  Dawn Weaver: it's Oh th I thought would, that that would be the same. If you
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: push something,
  Dorothy Cox: Yeah. Yeah
  Dawn Weaver: it
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: it
  Dorothy Cox: yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: but
  Dawn Weaver: all
  Dorothy Cox: it
  Dawn Weaver: lights
  Sheryl Giraldo: um
  Dawn Weaver: up.
  Dorothy Cox: it mustn't work all the time.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yes,
  Dorothy Cox: It uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: that's
  Dorothy Cox: uh it
  Sheryl Giraldo: what
  Dorothy Cox: have
  Sheryl Giraldo: I mean.
  Dorothy Cox: to work only when you use it. So
  Dawn Weaver: Or
  Dorothy Cox: if
  Dawn Weaver: you can
  Dorothy Cox: you
  Dawn Weaver: switch it on or something.
  Dorothy Cox: No,
  Sheryl Giraldo: Or
  Dorothy Cox: if
  Sheryl Giraldo: maybe
  Dorothy Cox: you use
  Sheryl Giraldo: when you
  Dorothy Cox: one button,
  Sheryl Giraldo: yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: it must turn uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: It
  Dorothy Cox: on
  Sheryl Giraldo: lights
  Dorothy Cox: for
  Sheryl Giraldo: up all.
  Dorothy Cox: twenty seconds,
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, that's
  Dorothy Cox: and
  Dawn Weaver: right.
  Dorothy Cox: then
  Dawn Weaver: You
  Dorothy Cox: it
  Dawn Weaver: have
  Dorothy Cox: must
  Dawn Weaver: to
  Dorothy Cox: turn off.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah, that's right. That's what
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay
  Dawn Weaver: I said. It's
  Sheryl Giraldo: yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: the
  Sheryl Giraldo: D
  Dawn Weaver: same as the telephone.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah, alright.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Dawn Weaver: And do we use a a Uh what's it called? Like a iMac, if you can look through it. Or just a normal
  Sheryl Giraldo: Maybe
  Jill Phang: Mm,
  Dawn Weaver: remote control.
  Jill Phang: maybe
  Sheryl Giraldo: just as an
  Jill Phang: it's
  Sheryl Giraldo: option,
  Jill Phang: a good idea.
  Sheryl Giraldo: w like we discussed, like iPod. Different colours, uh maybe use even different fonts.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: Oh yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Like uh phones.
  Dawn Weaver: Different colours. Okay, so
  Jill Phang: Hmm.
  Dawn Weaver: y
  Dorothy Cox: A see-through.
  Dawn Weaver: you just make it th through
  Dorothy Cox: Mm,
  Dawn Weaver: You look
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: that's
  Dawn Weaver: through
  Dorothy Cox: cool.
  Dawn Weaver: it?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: as an option maybe.
  Dawn Weaver: And so the buttons we have, this is, yeah, this is normal. We put in
  Sheryl Giraldo: It's the
  Dawn Weaver: the
  Sheryl Giraldo: standard
  Dawn Weaver: the simple buttons on the top, and probably
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: the the
  Sheryl Giraldo: uh
  Dawn Weaver: the more complicated buttons
  Dorothy Cox: But you have
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dorothy Cox: You
  Dawn Weaver: down
  Sheryl Giraldo: we
  Dorothy Cox: had
  Sheryl Giraldo: but
  Dorothy Cox: a lot
  Sheryl Giraldo: we
  Dorothy Cox: of
  Sheryl Giraldo: don't
  Dawn Weaver: there.
  Dorothy Cox: different buttons.
  Sheryl Giraldo: We don't really
  Jill Phang: Hmm.
  Sheryl Giraldo: have any
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Sheryl Giraldo: complicated
  Dawn Weaver: maybe you
  Sheryl Giraldo: buttons.
  Dawn Weaver: have you have to Uh when you use teletec teletext, you can press a green or a red button
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah
  Dawn Weaver: to
  Sheryl Giraldo: okay,
  Dawn Weaver: go to
  Sheryl Giraldo: but
  Dawn Weaver: the next one, or to go
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah,
  Dawn Weaver: to the previous
  Sheryl Giraldo: well
  Dawn Weaver: one.
  Sheryl Giraldo: w I think the buttons are very easy. With just uh standard buttons we just have so
  Dawn Weaver: O but maybe you
  Sheryl Giraldo: little
  Dawn Weaver: can put um the g the options of teletext on the second level of the remote control.
  Sheryl Giraldo: No, I don't
  Dawn Weaver: Because
  Sheryl Giraldo: need
  Dawn Weaver: you ne
  Sheryl Giraldo: don't
  Dawn Weaver: almost
  Sheryl Giraldo: need
  Dawn Weaver: never use it.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Uh teletext options are only four buttons or something.
  Jill Phang: Yeah, but younger people I think um more often use the internet and elderly people often use teletext.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah,
  Jill Phang: So
  Dawn Weaver: that's
  Sheryl Giraldo: I use
  Dorothy Cox: No,
  Dawn Weaver: right.
  Jill Phang: uh
  Sheryl Giraldo: teletext
  Dorothy Cox: I use
  Sheryl Giraldo: as well.
  Dorothy Cox: te teletext every day, I think.
  Jill Phang: Hmm. Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah. For Dorothy Cox too, it is. So we just keep it one level then?
  Sheryl Giraldo: Yeah yeah, one
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: level.
  Dorothy Cox: Mm.
  Sheryl Giraldo: And I think, uh 'cause um we don't have that many buttons, I think the design is most important.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: You can d uh integrate the buttons in the design very much.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Sheryl Giraldo: 'Cause simple buttons. If you
  Dawn Weaver: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: put one above it, it's clear.
  Dawn Weaver: Okay. So that's it for toda for We're going to have a lunch lunch break. Um
  Sheryl Giraldo: How long is lunch break?
  Dawn Weaver: So yeah, you know what you have to do. This is uh this is it. You get your meal and everything, so
  Dorothy Cox: Trendwatching. Okay.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: That's fine.
  Dorothy Cox: Yo.
  Dawn Weaver: So, we're finished for t for this time. We're going to have some lunch.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Okay.
  Sheryl Giraldo: Bye.
  Dawn Weaver: Yeah.
  Jill Phang: Yeah.
  Dorothy Cox: Mm. Uh.
Updated Content: Dawn Weaver announced that the remote should only control television, and that the marketing should be targeted towards ages 40 and above. Dorothy Cox presented the results of a lab study on users of remote controls, and showed that users want a fancier, less complicated remote that does not get lost easily. The group decided not to use speech recognition or an LCD screen to target the older demographic. Sheryl Giraldo discussed the button functions and how to make channel-changing easier. The group decided not to include programmable "favorites" buttons. Jill Phang presented the internal components of the device. The group discussed having the remote light up when used. He also stressed that the remote must be compatible with all television brands. Dawn Weaver corrected his target group announcement and announced that the target age group was actually ages 40 and below. The group again discussed the possibility of adding speech recognition and LCD screens to the design but decided that it was not feasible. The group decided to have the remote light up when used and is including teletext. Dorothy Cox was instructed to report on trendwatching.