Extracted Content: Mary Baisch: So um nice to see you again. Uh. So, uh. Tod uh for this meeting I will take the notes and do the minutes. Uh so we will see our three presentations. Um we will start with the uh Manager Expert wi who will talk about uh user re requirements, whats user needs and what it desire for this devi device.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay, can I have the laptop over
  Mary Baisch: Yep.
  Beverly Hunt: here,
  Mary Baisch: Oh, I don't think so. I think you
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: have
  Beverly Hunt: Have to get
  Mary Baisch: to
  Beverly Hunt: up.
  Mary Baisch: come here. I dunno. I think it should stay.
  Beverly Hunt: Excuse Beverly Hunt.
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah, that's it.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: Should stay in the square here.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: Oh, maybe.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay, so basically I'm gonna present
  Mary Baisch: Oh,
  Beverly Hunt: some
  Mary Baisch: you
  Beverly Hunt: findings
  Mary Baisch: can put it here.
  Beverly Hunt: of a study we conducted
  Mary Baisch: Oh that's okay, it's jus
  Beverly Hunt: uh into uh what users want in this remote control. Um so first of all we what we did is we um conducted a an experiment with a hundred test subjects. Um we put them in a in our um usability laboratory and got them to, you know, um play with remote controls and also to complete, after they'd done that, to complete a questionnaire uh to tell us what they like and what they don't like in remote controls. So basically um the major things we found out was that um basically users don't like the look and feel of of most remote controls that are currently on the market. Um they, you know, seventy five percent of the people we we uh did the experiments on, found that rem remote the remote controls that they'd used in the past were ugly. Completely ugly. Um they they didn't match the operating behaviour of the user, that is, you know, the the way users use remote controls when they're watching T_V_. Um, that the layout of the remote controls didn't match they way that they used it. Um and thirdly they say that w half of the users that we um tested said that they only used ten percent of the buttons that uh are on remote controls. Um so we collect we also some collected some usage statistics uh based on how these test subjects were using their remote control. And from this we basically came up with the figure that the channel buttons, the channel selection buttons are the most by far the most used buttons on the remote control. Um and you can see they're used a hundred and sixty eight times per hour on average, um, while the user's watching T_V_. Um the closest button that was used, well the cl the button that was used that was closest to the channel button was the teletext button, um which was used fourteen times per hour, followed by the volume button, which was four times per hour, um, all the other, all the other um buttons, such as ch um audio and picture selection um configuration buttons and things were used, you know, l approx well less than or equal to one times per hour. Um we also asked users um which buttons had the most importance to them, you know, which which buttons they felt were the most important buttons on on the remote control. And basically they came they said the channel, volume, and power buttons had the highest relevance to users, um note that only power was very infrequently used, it only had a b a a fr usage frequency of about one times per hour, but users ranked it as having a very very high relevance. Um and the audio and picture settings had a very that well the users thought that um w the audio and picture settings were very uh weren't very important to them um, and they used them very infrequently a as well. So we asked users what what um frustrates them the most about um current remote controls. And fifty percent of the users said that uh what frustrates them is losing the remote control um somewhere in the room and not being able to find it. Um they also said that it um it takes a lot of time to learn a new remote control, especially when there's many buttons and it's a, you know, a c a a unintuitive interface. Um and then thirdly, they some users commented on the fact that the the you know the way that you have to hold and press buttons on a remote control ar are bad and um cause u repetitive strain injury. We also asked some users about some specific features that they'd like to see in the on the remote control. In particular, do they want an L_C_D_ d display, and secondly, do they think speech recognition uh is a useful feature to have on a remote control. Um basically our findings are that um amongst a younger age groups uh the answer is umv overwhelmingly yes. They want these features, they want these high technology features. Um for instance, ninety one percent of pe of people aged between fifteen and twenty five said yes, they want these features. Whereas um the the trend was as users as users um became older and older uh they were less likely to want these sort of features in a um in a remote control. So I guess it depends on where we're focusing our our market. Um and as our company motto is putting fashion in electronics, um I think we're focusing on the younger younger um target demographic, and so maybe we should think about adding these sort of high technology features into our remote control.
  Mary Baisch: Hmm.
  Beverly Hunt: That's my dic that's my presentation. Thank you.
  Mary Baisch: Thank you.
  Lillie Fife: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: So, um maybe now we can talk about a user interface and uh about the technical function of this device. So uh Pet Peter, can you talk say something
  Krystin Abbey: Well
  Mary Baisch: about that?
  Krystin Abbey: okay, yeah. Yeah, but the user user
  Mary Baisch: No.
  Lillie Fife: B
  Krystin Abbey: interface
  Lillie Fife: you think uh
  Krystin Abbey: is responsible.
  Lillie Fife: I I'm User Interface
  Mary Baisch: Ah.
  Krystin Abbey: Okay, so.
  Mary Baisch: Sorry, I'm Sorry.
  Lillie Fife: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: Sorry.
  Lillie Fife: Okay. If I could go there with this cable.
  Krystin Abbey: You're scaring Beverly Hunt with L_C_D_ man. And speech recognition in remote unit, it will be very e expensive.
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah, it's true, but, you know, they're features that users want, so it's
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: And our production cost of twelve fifty Euros per per unit is fairly high I think, so
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: I think we can afford to to add these sort of features into our remote.
  Krystin Abbey: At least we have couple of months t to work on it so so it will be cheaper
  Lillie Fife: Sh okay.
  Krystin Abbey: finally.
  Beverly Hunt: It is true.
  Lillie Fife: Where's delete button? Okay. Oh I'm sorry.
  Lillie Fife: Okay.
  Beverly Hunt: That's the wrong one, I think.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah, it's still Bob Morris.
  Lillie Fife: Oh. Presentation three?
  Krystin Abbey: Because you cancelled
  Mary Baisch: Yeah you should have
  Krystin Abbey: it.
  Mary Baisch: put yes.
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Lillie Fife: Oh.
  Mary Baisch: Click on yes. yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: Yep.
  Lillie Fife: Okay, so here is my presentation about technical function design. I will talk about different components and s of system and how they react together. Okay, uh, first is a remote control it's a device, as, for uh, different commands uh with this device. And the main idea we don't use any cable and we can rec react simpler with the device. Uh i it has different blocks, different blocks. Uh first is remote control have sh ha should have some electric circuits uh making interface with uh keyboard and uh r reading uh keyboard and reading the keyboard uh commands. And then inter then make uh these keyboard commands, uh in interpret these int uh keyboard commands. And then there should be uh an electronic circuit making uh electronic signals according to these commands and uh finally there is a transmitter which is a cord or a a diode making uh making uh waves to transmit through the air and uh uh this air this uh wave uh will be received by the by the other device like a television or whatever, to uh r to realise the command. Okay, uh about what I found about uh different uh these different blocks are uh, usually there are two different methods uh to for designing a remote control. They are based on infra-red uh waves or uh uh
  Krystin Abbey: You still
  Lillie Fife: radio
  Krystin Abbey: want
  Lillie Fife: waves.
  Krystin Abbey: Beverly Hunt the presentation.
  Lillie Fife: There are two different uh uh solutions I mean. This is uh this can be uh uh the the differences the th between different kind of waves, infra-red or radio waves. And uh also as uh I understood, and uh I think it was a part of uh Bob, uh uh presentation, people prefer to have uh to have uh the remote control with less button. So for the electronic part, working and interfacing, with button, we should we should try to t try to design a remote control having uh some some simpler buttons or some rolling buttons to just to just to search between different options, and showing o something on T_V_ and putting less lesser stuff on the uh on the remote control. And uh personal preferences, uh uh uh uh certainly a remote control with uh working with radio waves is uh preferred because uh you can pr you can take it in any direction and you don't need to tune it any way. And uh uh again, using bigger buttons and less number of buttons are also preferred, as I see. Okay. That was my presentation.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Beverly Hunt: I have a question.
  Lillie Fife: Uh-huh.
  Beverly Hunt: Do you think radio waves um will interfere with other appliances in the home?
  Lillie Fife: Uh, I don't think so, because uh we can make uh we ca we can make this wave in a specific frequency. So they can be in a range which is not inter interfering with the with other devices inside the home.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: So
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah it should be
  Mary Baisch: can
  Krystin Abbey: okay.
  Mary Baisch: we use any any frequency? We have the right to use any frequency?
  Lillie Fife: Uh no but as I know, there is a range for uh for this uh f for for uh for this stuff, for designing this circuit. We can we can we can tune our uh transmitter to work in this range, and for this range we don't need to ask any permission.
  Mary Baisch: Okay. And what happen with uh radio waves when two neighbours have the same have our remote control, for example? And so do they have the same frequency, or?
  Lillie Fife: Uh for this I'm not uh I I don't know the solution, but one solution can be something like putting uh p password or something inside the wave, so the only your
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Lillie Fife: T_V_ can
  Mary Baisch: A
  Lillie Fife: understand
  Mary Baisch: kind of identification,
  Lillie Fife: it Yeah, identification
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah f
  Lillie Fife: code
  Mary Baisch: okay.
  Lillie Fife: inside the
  Krystin Abbey: uh
  Mary Baisch: So
  Krystin Abbey: I know about this, since it's my it's exactly my field, so. It's uh kind of handshaking, uh, when starting to uh when you start to communicate with the your T_V_
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: then then it's like an handshaking
  Mary Baisch: So
  Krystin Abbey: protocol with your your remote. So so if two two devices are trying to go to communicate with the T_V_ set then the the the one which has the more energy in the wave is chosen. Well it can be a problem sometimes, but most of the time it works okay.
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Lillie Fife: The password may simply uh or uh i identification code may simply solve this problem. A specific uh remote control has
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah
  Lillie Fife: a
  Krystin Abbey: but
  Lillie Fife: specific
  Krystin Abbey: we we don't have to think
  Lillie Fife: f
  Krystin Abbey: uh about this because I think as a function designer that we will use the already made uh circuits which we probably bu buy. It's worth to buy.
  Mary Baisch: Hmm.
  Krystin Abbey: And they have these problems solved so.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: So
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: we don't have to think about these.
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: So, maybe you can talk about the function, and
  Krystin Abbey: Yes. I have only a couple of things because I had I struggled a bit with the software that I'm supposed to use in this uh uh in this company. I was used to use Linux before, so. But I tried to tried to break through this too, I guess. Mm.
  Mary Baisch: Open.
  Krystin Abbey: Ah. Okay. How to make it big?
  Mary Baisch: Slide
  Lillie Fife: Five.
  Mary Baisch: show.
  Krystin Abbey: Slide show. Okay, thanks.
  Mary Baisch: It should work, so you can.
  Krystin Abbey: Okay. Oh so I will speak about working design. That's the first slide. Uh what uh I have to do? A look at what the other company Okay so uh presently I am looking what is possible to use, what circuits to use and stuff like that because uh I didn't work uh with these uh circuits so far so I have to look what what is a v a v available on the market for for the communication for the I_R_ circuits and so on, so I'm currently looking what is available on the web. And uh I wanted to ask you m maybe afterwards, after after our discussion, if we have some contacts in some companies, so, which can report on what is going on there, so, I would be
  Mary Baisch: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: glad if you can
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: tell Beverly Hunt about them. So, you know. Uh, okay findings, that's the point that I'm working on currently but uh so far I I was uh looking what what are the blue circuit, I mean radio wave radio frequency circuits
  Beverly Hunt: Mm-hmm.
  Krystin Abbey: are available now, but the prices I read are high. So, I know that uh the user interface people and these speak about radio frequency waves because you can you can uh
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Krystin Abbey: you can make the T_V_ do what you want even
  Mary Baisch: Hmm.
  Krystin Abbey: if you are in the bathroom or so on, but you know, when you are not close to the T_V_ you probably won't need to to change the program and so on and so I am I am voting for s to stick to the um infra-red control instead of R_W_ but we will discuss it later maybe. Uh. Components to use, I'm not exactly sure what I will use for the design of the circuit. It depends uh on whether we will use the L_C_D_ and mainly the speech recognition, because the speech rec Yeah?
  Beverly Hunt: Are we um are we planning to take an off the shelf an O_E_M_ component for the radio wave circuit, or are we planning to construct our own circuit
  Krystin Abbey: No no
  Beverly Hunt: board?
  Krystin Abbey: no no no. This we this we buy I think, because it's rather cheap nowadays and it's
  Beverly Hunt: Okay
  Krystin Abbey: not worth
  Beverly Hunt: s
  Krystin Abbey: to construct ourselves.
  Beverly Hunt: So we just buy a circuit board and
  Krystin Abbey: Exactly.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: But I'm not sure about the circuit which is responsible for speech recognition. This I prefer that we should make ourselves.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: But it depends whether we take a decision to use it. Same thing. It's fairly expensive to use these circuits. So, speech recognition well, L_C_D_ it's okay because it's common nowadays to use L_C_D_, so I agree on using any kind of L_C_D_, less buttons good for Beverly Hunt as a as a designer of the circuit.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: But the speech recognition we have to compare whether
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: the price and the
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: what does it offer, you know.
  Mary Baisch: So what do you think would
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah, I'm
  Mary Baisch: be the price, it would be out of range? Or it would be maybe
  Krystin Abbey: Oh.
  Mary Baisch: feasible?
  Krystin Abbey: I was not thinking too much about the price. But if we use the L_C_D_ uh even the radio frequency communication with the T_V_ set and the backlight and uh related things like the photo diodes and stuff, it should be okay. If we decide to use the speech recognition, then we probably could struggle but we'll see afterwards.
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: It depends of you if if the M_E_ or U_I_D_, I'm
  Mary Baisch: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: sorry about the names, I don't really know, uh want to have it like in metal or in plastic, these things, it it depends on you not Because the the the electronic device's price is not not so big in comparison to to the overall shape and stuff like that, so.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: We will discuss it afterwards. Oh, this is nothing. This is just my notes on what to use. preferably to use R_W_ circuit, but from the point of view uh of the design and price, I would stick to I_R_s. That's my opinion. Uh I mean if infra-red uh circuit not not the radio frequency.
  Mary Baisch: Why? Because it's simpler?
  Krystin Abbey: Because because the the range where you can
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: use it is fair.
  Mary Baisch: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: It's okay I think. And the price is fairly cheap
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: for this.
  Mary Baisch: It's
  Krystin Abbey: Well,
  Mary Baisch: a a
  Krystin Abbey: depends.
  Mary Baisch: price matter. Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: Jus just the price.
  Mary Baisch: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: Otherwise I don't care what I put there because it's the chip which I buy or which
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: we buy. So I I I think
  Beverly Hunt: What
  Krystin Abbey: it's
  Beverly Hunt: how much
  Krystin Abbey: o
  Beverly Hunt: more expensive?
  Krystin Abbey: y
  Beverly Hunt: Are we talking three
  Krystin Abbey: o.
  Beverly Hunt: times more expensive? Or
  Krystin Abbey: Well,
  Beverly Hunt: ten
  Krystin Abbey: three
  Beverly Hunt: times
  Krystin Abbey: to
  Beverly Hunt: more
  Krystin Abbey: three
  Beverly Hunt: expensive? Or
  Krystin Abbey: to five.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: N not ten times, but it
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah
  Krystin Abbey: depends what
  Beverly Hunt: yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: what we
  Beverly Hunt: That's still a lot. I think it's it's probably not
  Mary Baisch: Hmm.
  Beverly Hunt: worth spending the extra money, because
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: I mean all the other remote controls on the market have infra-red, so people don't expect anything other than infra-red.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: So it's
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: not worth spending
  Mary Baisch: Well
  Beverly Hunt: the extra
  Krystin Abbey: Th
  Beverly Hunt: money.
  Krystin Abbey: they are used
  Mary Baisch: I,
  Krystin Abbey: to use
  Mary Baisch: oh
  Krystin Abbey: it when they can see the T_V_ so,
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: I
  Mary Baisch: On
  Krystin Abbey: don't
  Mary Baisch: the other
  Krystin Abbey: know.
  Mary Baisch: side, we want to have something new. You know,
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: where we want to to have something new and So we I think we should still thinking about it. But
  Beverly Hunt: But I think,
  Mary Baisch: maybe.
  Beverly Hunt: based on my usability studies I th I feel that users are prioritise the look and the feel and
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Beverly Hunt: the trendiness above, you know, the difference between infra-red or radio waves. So I think we're better off spending money
  Krystin Abbey: You the user interface,
  Beverly Hunt: in the usability
  Krystin Abbey: and
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: management
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Beverly Hunt: phase.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: man, uh
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: Uh okay, that's it for Beverly Hunt.
  Mary Baisch: Okay, thank you Peter.
  Krystin Abbey: 'Kay.
  Mary Baisch: So um I have to inform you I receive an email from the management bon board today and they have new requirements for the for the remote control.
  Beverly Hunt: Mm.
  Mary Baisch: Um first um, they say that's uh about something about t teletext. Uh apparently it becomes from according to them it becomes out of date. Out-dated. And uh Because of the internet popularity and everybody has internet at home, and actually it's not useful to have teletext. Um. So I think we can avoid the teletext. Um the second thing is uh they suggest that that we should uh use the remote control only for T_V_, not for D_V_D_ and other devices, because it make it it makes it's too complex and uh because we have not much time for this project we should stay on T_V_ on the only specific T_V_ remote control.
  Krystin Abbey: I agree.
  Mary Baisch: The third the third one is uh about the the the image of the company. So um uh we should we should keep uh The the product should be recognisable. Uh, uh It's That mean we should use the colour of our company and maybe put somewhere the s the slogan of the company, which is uh, we put fashion of in electronics. So, when people see the the remote control, they should say oh it's from Real Reaction and he s they should recognise the company. So, um So now we we should take the decision what we are going to what function we will have on this uh on this remote control. So, mm, are we going to use L_C_D_, speech recognition? Uh.
  Beverly Hunt: Well, should we start with just the core, the basic functions that we need. And then
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: we can move on
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Beverly Hunt: to the
  Lillie Fife: Yes.
  Beverly Hunt: more
  Mary Baisch: Maybe,
  Beverly Hunt: advanced features.
  Mary Baisch: maybe.
  Krystin Abbey: Okay, so the available things are L_C_D_, the buttons and everything. Uh radio frequency depends. And, well the recognition it depends on
  Mary Baisch: Yeah
  Krystin Abbey: you guys. You
  Mary Baisch: but
  Krystin Abbey: should probably speak.
  Mary Baisch: first maybe what is what are the usual function of a standard remote control? I mean
  Krystin Abbey: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: what do
  Beverly Hunt: Okay, well,
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: I mean the obvious one is changing channels.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Lillie Fife: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: I think we should stick on very useful functions, because
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: we want less button. So, yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah, okay.
  Mary Baisch: So, turning channel, of course. Volume setting.
  Krystin Abbey: Uh just one note to the chan channel changing. Do we will we use only two buttons, or or like numbered buttons? I mean those nine
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: plus one or two?
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Baisch: I think it would be a b
  Krystin Abbey: Because it's many buttons and we were speaking about lowering the number.
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah, I
  Mary Baisch: On the other side we have more and more channels, and if you want to pass through all the
  Lillie Fife: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: channels to get the channel you want, it's
  Krystin Abbey: Okay so so we keep all these
  Lillie Fife: Yeah
  Mary Baisch: Maybe
  Lillie Fife: yeah,
  Krystin Abbey: all
  Lillie Fife: at
  Mary Baisch: maybe
  Lillie Fife: least
  Krystin Abbey: these buttons.
  Mary Baisch: we
  Lillie Fife: nine,
  Mary Baisch: could
  Lillie Fife: ten
  Mary Baisch: think of
  Lillie Fife: button.
  Mary Baisch: something more betweens, like uh
  Krystin Abbey: Like ten plus, five plus, one plus, one minus
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: or something.
  Mary Baisch: Maybe something
  Krystin Abbey: Or using
  Mary Baisch: like
  Krystin Abbey: the
  Mary Baisch: that.
  Krystin Abbey: names and the keyboard I
  Beverly Hunt: Ah yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: dunno.
  Mary Baisch: Uh.
  Lillie Fife: Or
  Mary Baisch: Maybe
  Lillie Fife: Or something.
  Mary Baisch: Oh I don't know. Oh. Maybe we could have key buttons, like uh discovery channe like documentary channel, and movies channel and
  Krystin Abbey: You mean
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Krystin Abbey: like
  Mary Baisch: And
  Krystin Abbey: hierarchical
  Mary Baisch: inside
  Krystin Abbey: structure.
  Mary Baisch: this
  Lillie Fife: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: this thing you can move,
  Lillie Fife: Like categorising
  Mary Baisch: maybe switch.
  Lillie Fife: channels.
  Mary Baisch: If you want to see a movie you click on the movie button so you have all the movie channels
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Baisch: and
  Krystin Abbey: Okay,
  Mary Baisch: after
  Krystin Abbey: so
  Mary Baisch: you've
  Krystin Abbey: s
  Mary Baisch: you plus
  Krystin Abbey: Oh
  Mary Baisch: plus
  Krystin Abbey: sorry.
  Mary Baisch: plus.
  Lillie Fife: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: I It just an idea. I don't know what you think about that but.
  Krystin Abbey: So it requires the use of L_C_D_ probably, to to tell you
  Beverly Hunt: To
  Mary Baisch: Yeah,
  Beverly Hunt: have some feedback.
  Mary Baisch: probably, yeah,
  Krystin Abbey: Okay,
  Mary Baisch: yeah.
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: so I'll make a note on L_C_D_.
  Beverly Hunt: We could maybe also c um incorporate Petre's idea of the um slider for the volume,
  Lillie Fife: Okay.
  Beverly Hunt: with the channel.
  Mary Baisch: Okay.
  Beverly Hunt: So we c you could quickly just
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: through many channels.
  Krystin Abbey: Like roller for the
  Beverly Hunt: For
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: the channels, perhaps.
  Krystin Abbey: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: Anything else?
  Beverly Hunt: So we've got channel and volume. Um.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: So we are still s speaking about the common devices or we are inviting
  Beverly Hunt: I think
  Krystin Abbey: the
  Beverly Hunt: so.
  Krystin Abbey: new one?
  Beverly Hunt: I think basically
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: the core functions we want, and then more advanced ones.
  Mary Baisch: What about the settings of the T_V_? Because it's button we don't use very often, but it's we need it anyway.
  Lillie Fife: So
  Mary Baisch: So
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Lillie Fife: uh we don't have any uh we don't have uh we should just design the remote control and we sh we don't have any access to the to the T_V_ design or we can change some design. Because one solution for this um uh uh ch changing channels is to see a summary of all channels, some some preview of all channels and then you
  Krystin Abbey: On
  Lillie Fife: can
  Krystin Abbey: the screen,
  Lillie Fife: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: you mean?
  Lillie Fife: Yeah
  Krystin Abbey: Not
  Lillie Fife: b
  Krystin Abbey: on the control,
  Lillie Fife: Not on
  Krystin Abbey: but
  Lillie Fife: the
  Krystin Abbey: on
  Lillie Fife: control,
  Krystin Abbey: the screen.
  Lillie Fife: on the screen, on the T_V_ screen.
  Krystin Abbey: Well, this
  Beverly Hunt: I don't
  Krystin Abbey: would
  Lillie Fife: And
  Krystin Abbey: avoid
  Lillie Fife: then
  Krystin Abbey: L_C_D_, then.
  Beverly Hunt: Oh, I don't but I don't think we're we're the ones. I mean this remote control we're developing is a generic control for
  Mary Baisch: Yeah,
  Beverly Hunt: all T_V_s,
  Mary Baisch: yeah.
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Baisch: know if
  Krystin Abbey: Oh.
  Beverly Hunt: I
  Mary Baisch: it's
  Beverly Hunt: think.
  Mary Baisch: possible to to watch something
  Krystin Abbey: W
  Mary Baisch: on T_V_
  Krystin Abbey: I I think it it would be better to to stick to the remote control
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: and not to bother the T_V_ to
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Krystin Abbey: to to print these things. Well it wi it will be still more expensive, but for the L_C_D_ and this stuff is no problem
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Krystin Abbey: in the price.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: So, what are we doing with the settings? Because settings if we want to do settings we need buttons for that and we want less buttons, so. Maybe with the L_C_D_ we can do something
  Lillie Fife: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: with less buttons, but
  Beverly Hunt: But then you don't want to make the L_C_D_ display too complicated
  Mary Baisch: Mm.
  Beverly Hunt: at the same time. I mean there's always
  Krystin Abbey: Two T_V_s.
  Beverly Hunt: we can always have these l less often used functions hidden somewhere, under a cover
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: or
  Mary Baisch: Oh yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: at
  Krystin Abbey: Like
  Beverly Hunt: the back of under
  Mary Baisch: Oh,
  Krystin Abbey: ma
  Beverly Hunt: a slide
  Mary Baisch: the.
  Beverly Hunt: or some
  Krystin Abbey: We we could have for example two buttons like simple mode and advanced mode. Or I dunno.
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: Or
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: like children and grandfather's mode, and
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: the, well the the user not the user, the man mana T_V_ manager mode.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: Ah,
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Krystin Abbey: I dunno.
  Beverly Hunt: So we have five minutes left.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: Um.
  Krystin Abbey: Uh.
  Beverly Hunt: So I think s the settings we th we are agreeing are agreed that they're required.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Beverly Hunt: It's just
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: how to a
  Mary Baisch: We should hide them somewhere.
  Krystin Abbey: Hide
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: them, okay.
  Mary Baisch: In the menus of the L_C_D_
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: or in the back of the remote control, or something like
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: that.
  Beverly Hunt: Uh, okay, what else?
  Krystin Abbey: Um.
  Beverly Hunt: I mean a power button's obviously
  Krystin Abbey: Yes.
  Beverly Hunt: uh
  Krystin Abbey: This
  Beverly Hunt: required.
  Krystin Abbey: I was thinking. Do we need a power button at all? Should should shouldn't we do it like sleep mode after five minutes of not using it? Because generally
  Mary Baisch: It's it's a kind of setting, I think. It should
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Mary Baisch: fit in those settings
  Lillie Fife: Settings.
  Mary Baisch: functions. Because it's not a very current useful function.
  Beverly Hunt: Uh, well I think when they say power button they mean to turn the T_V_ on and off.
  Mary Baisch: No,
  Krystin Abbey: Yes.
  Mary Baisch: I think it's after after five minutes
  Krystin Abbey: Well
  Mary Baisch: or something
  Krystin Abbey: I
  Mary Baisch: a timer
  Krystin Abbey: I uh
  Mary Baisch: I I think,
  Beverly Hunt: But if you're
  Mary Baisch: no?
  Beverly Hunt: watching T_V_ for two hours, you don't want your T_V_ to turn off
  Krystin Abbey: You don't
  Beverly Hunt: after
  Krystin Abbey: need
  Beverly Hunt: five
  Krystin Abbey: to
  Beverly Hunt: five
  Krystin Abbey: every
  Beverly Hunt: minute
  Krystin Abbey: five minutes to keep it alive. Uh probably. Okay, so we should keep this button.
  Beverly Hunt: I mean based
  Lillie Fife: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: on our usability studies again, um pe um people said that the power button was v a very
  Mary Baisch: Oh okay,
  Beverly Hunt: relevant button.
  Mary Baisch: yeah.
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Beverly Hunt: Um, you know, it was nine out of ten
  Krystin Abbey: Okay, so
  Beverly Hunt: re
  Krystin Abbey: we
  Beverly Hunt: relevance.
  Krystin Abbey: we could p what we could probably do is to keep also to keep uh keep the L_C_D_ and all the buttons and stuff, we could make it like a opening opening style that if you open it
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: you are you just turn on the T_V_ and if you close it, it will
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: turn off the T_V_. If if you like this,
  Beverly Hunt: Okay. B Okay.
  Krystin Abbey: Because, well
  Beverly Hunt: I think we need
  Krystin Abbey: it's
  Beverly Hunt: to concentrate
  Krystin Abbey: maybe question
  Beverly Hunt: on the,
  Krystin Abbey: for you
  Beverly Hunt: you know, the
  Krystin Abbey: t
  Beverly Hunt: major
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Beverly Hunt: usage of the th of the control,
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: which is you sit down, you turn on your T_V_, you change channels, you change the volume, you turn the T_V_ off.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: Um
  Mary Baisch: So s yeah.
  Beverly Hunt: and all the other f functionality is
  Lillie Fife: Yeah, they
  Beverly Hunt: not
  Lillie Fife: can
  Beverly Hunt: used very often.
  Lillie Fife: yeah they can be hide somewhere by a cover or something
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Lillie Fife: like this.
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Lillie Fife: Like covering
  Mary Baisch: On the
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: back, or
  Lillie Fife: cu.
  Krystin Abbey: I mean like the
  Lillie Fife: Yeah, like mobile phone
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah but
  Lillie Fife: covering.
  Krystin Abbey: since we have the L_C_D_, we didn't need too much button too many buttons. Um, okay, just um the decision of the power button. Should we make it a button, or some some something which would be
  Mary Baisch: For what?
  Krystin Abbey: Uh
  Beverly Hunt: I think a button.
  Lillie Fife: A button
  Krystin Abbey: power button.
  Lillie Fife: is better.
  Beverly Hunt: I think it should
  Mary Baisch: Ah
  Beverly Hunt: be a
  Krystin Abbey: If
  Beverly Hunt: bu
  Krystin Abbey: it
  Mary Baisch: oh
  Lillie Fife: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: yeah,
  Krystin Abbey: if
  Mary Baisch: yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: it's a button or
  Mary Baisch: Yeah
  Beverly Hunt: Its own
  Mary Baisch: a
  Krystin Abbey: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: button,
  Beverly Hunt: button
  Mary Baisch: yeah I guess
  Beverly Hunt: on the
  Mary Baisch: so.
  Beverly Hunt: front.
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: Okay, one nice big button. Old fashioned button, to satisfy the grandmothers. Hmm.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: So,
  Krystin Abbey: Mm.
  Beverly Hunt: S
  Mary Baisch: any other suggestions or functions?
  Beverly Hunt: What about things like the clock and um timers?
  Krystin Abbey: Do we still have the time? I I just wonder.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah, we have still one or two minutes
  Krystin Abbey: Okay.
  Mary Baisch: to talk, yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: Oh. Well what w
  Lillie Fife: Clock
  Krystin Abbey: what was the question?
  Lillie Fife: or
  Beverly Hunt: Uh um, you know, some func some features on the control to display a time, or
  Mary Baisch: Usually
  Beverly Hunt: t
  Mary Baisch: it's
  Beverly Hunt: to
  Mary Baisch: already
  Beverly Hunt: display
  Mary Baisch: on T_V_ or something like
  Lillie Fife: Yes.
  Mary Baisch: that.
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah but since we want to control all the televisions, and
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: and it would probably be worth to to set the timing on the remote, no? Because
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Krystin Abbey: if if the T_V_ turns
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: on itself, it
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: well you
  Mary Baisch: If
  Krystin Abbey: know,
  Mary Baisch: we if
  Krystin Abbey: if
  Mary Baisch: we
  Krystin Abbey: the time
  Mary Baisch: add
  Krystin Abbey: The
  Mary Baisch: the time,
  Krystin Abbey: timer should be there.
  Mary Baisch: we have to have maybe a bigger display or something like that, and is it very useful? I mean, are users wants to have the time on the on the remote?
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Mary Baisch: This is the question.
  Beverly Hunt: Probably not.
  Mary Baisch: Is it useful?
  Lillie Fife: Yes.
  Beverly Hunt: It's a questi yeah, it's a trade-off.
  Mary Baisch: W In my opinion we should have only useful thing and Because
  Beverly Hunt: 'Kay.
  Mary Baisch: apparently they want The simpler
  Krystin Abbey: Ah,
  Mary Baisch: it's is
  Krystin Abbey: yeah.
  Mary Baisch: better.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay simple.
  Krystin Abbey: Did you did you ever use the like the timing of turning on the T_V_, well And based on
  Beverly Hunt: Very,
  Krystin Abbey: your
  Beverly Hunt: yeah okay, very occasionally. But I do use the I do use the display of the time quite often,
  Lillie Fife: Mm.
  Beverly Hunt: but
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah but it can be on the display in in a corner all
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: the time on the remote.
  Beverly Hunt: Yeah that's okay, that's true. Okay, so no
  Mary Baisch: No time
  Beverly Hunt: time
  Mary Baisch: on.
  Beverly Hunt: button.
  Lillie Fife: And
  Beverly Hunt: Okay.
  Lillie Fife: uh do we need to include anything about the speech recognition and the speech commands,
  Krystin Abbey: Yes
  Lillie Fife: or?
  Mary Baisch: I think
  Krystin Abbey: yes.
  Lillie Fife: I I thin I think it will not take lots of place, we just need a microphone and the software, so people may be attracted to buy this stuff and it's not very difficult to uh put a software inside the the electronic device and put a microphone. It doesn't take that much place and also that much It doesn't cost that much.
  Mary Baisch: Yeah.
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah but we we should be careful about the battery life, then. If we use
  Mary Baisch: So
  Krystin Abbey: the
  Mary Baisch: maybe
  Krystin Abbey: speech
  Mary Baisch: we think
  Krystin Abbey: recognition.
  Mary Baisch: we can think more about that, and discuss that maybe last time
  Lillie Fife: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Baisch: next time.
  Krystin Abbey: Yeah.
  Mary Baisch: And uh yeah, now the meeting room is busy. Somebody booked the meeting room just for at one P_M_, and so we should leave. Uh. So, um. So now we are going for for a small lunch. It's uh funded by the company. And uh after we have uh thirteen minutes to to do indevel individual works. And uh I will do the minutes. And uh you are going to work on your individual works. And uh you will receive as usual your specific instruction and so on.
  Beverly Hunt: Okay,
  Mary Baisch: Thank you everybody.
  Beverly Hunt: cool. Okay
  Lillie Fife: Thanks.
  Beverly Hunt: Thank you.
Updated Content: Mary Baisch opened the meeting and then Beverly Hunt discussed user requirements. Beverly Hunt also found that younger users want an LCD display and a remote capable of speech recognition. The interface specialist discussed the interior workings of a remote and stated a preference for using radio waves over infra-red technology. Krystin Abbey discussed particular components that a remote could include. Mary Baisch briefed the team on some new requirements and initiated a discussion in which the team discussed and decided on various features to include in the remote they will produce.