Extracted Content: Robert Scott: Is that alright now? Okay. Sorry? Okay, everybody all set to start the meeting? Okay, we've got half an hour for this one
  Sherman Mckinney: Could you plug
  Robert Scott: um
  Sherman Mckinney: Sherman Mckinney in?
  Robert Scott: to uh discuss the um functional design.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay. Thanks.
  Robert Scott: All ready to go? Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Um so hopefully you've all been working away, and I've put the minutes of the last meeting in the project folder. Um so I guess just to to recap on uh what we did last time. Um kind of uh got to each other a little bit and uh got familiar with all the equipment and started to discuss um a bit about the project, you know, cost-wise how much how much money we had to s
  Robert Scott: Um just want to tell you that you have three new requirements, um which is the The first one is that um uh the company's decided that teletext is outdated uh because of how popular the internet is. Nobody uses teletext very much anymore,
  Sherman Mckinney: 'Kay.
  Robert Scott: so we don't really need to consider that in the functionality of the of the remote control. Um they've also suggested that we um we only use the remote control to control the television, not the V_C_R_, D_V_D_ or anything else. I think the worry is that if the project becomes too complex then it'll affect um how long it takes us to get it into into production, the time to market.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: So um, we're just gonna keep it simple and it'll just control the T_V_. And the other thing was that the company want the corporate colour and slogan to be implemented in the new design. Um I'm not entirely sure what the corporate colour is. It might be yellow, because there seems to be a lot of yellow everywhere.
  Sherman Mckinney: And the slogan, like the actual written slogan, or just to embody the idea of the slogan?
  Robert Scott: Well that's the thing, I'm I'm not sure um uh th because on the the company website, uh what does it say
  Sherman Mckinney: 'Bout
  Robert Scott: Uh something
  Sherman Mckinney: putting the fashion in electronics.
  Robert Scott: Yeah,
  Harry Townsend: Mm yeah.
  Robert Scott: I mean do they Is that something they want actually written on it, 'cause it's quite long. Um or yeah, just the idea, but I'm not sure. So that's something we can discuss as well. So those are the three things, just not to worry about teletext, uh only control the T_V_, and um and uh incorporate the uh colour and slogan of the company. Um so is everybody okay with any of that, or do you want Sherman Mckinney to recap at all?
  Harry Townsend: Nope, we're all set.
  Robert Scott: Right um, time for presentations then. Who would like to go first?
  Jeff Cruz: I'll go first.
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: Okay, cool.
  Jeff Cruz: Alright um, I st steal this from the back of your laptop?
  Robert Scott: Oh
  Jeff Cruz: Uh
  Robert Scott: yeah, of course, yeah. G go on ahead.
  Jeff Cruz: so this is the technical functions design. Um Right to do the um the design I have I've had a look online, I've had a look at the homepage, which has given us um some insp inspiration from previous products.
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Jeff Cruz: Um I've had a look at the previous products to see what they offer about the design at the end of the meeting. Um unfortunately we're not allowed to talk outside the meeting room, so
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Jeff Cruz: Um, having a look at the existing products, I found out that um it tends to come in sort of two extremes, there's either um a very complicated one that's got lots of buttons, lots of colours, very confusing, you don't know what you're doing. Um in that case the the labelling tends to be very bad. Um there's an example I'll show you at the end, um sh show you now. Uh
  Robert Scott: Alright.
  Jeff Cruz: here um the button there and there. This one's prog. Sorry. That one's perg and that one's prog, and it doesn't really tell you what it does.
  Jeff Cruz: Um, not sure if you had a a look at the other um control in that example. Um it's a very simple one. It's got only the basic functions mm but um it's the same size as the the
  Robert Scott: Oop.
  Jeff Cruz: hard to use one. Uh it looked a bit clunky. They're very big and not very much use for buttons. Um, and it's just very hard to access the advanced functions. There's there's nothing for instance for a slow motion button. Um, my own preferences, I prefer the the clunky one. Um it's very easy to use. Um but unfortunately it does lack the advanced functions which I I quite like having on the controls. Um so I believe the the advanced functions should maybe be hidden in a drawer, or something like tha from the bottom of it. So, now I'd like to ask for your preferences. Um not sure of how long we've got, uh
  Robert Scott: Um. Well we can chat away for uh for five minutes or so I think at
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: at most. Just a couple of minutes anyway.
  Sherman Mckinney: M yeah, like a lot of a lot of what I've um read and prepared for this meeting fits in really closely with what with what Craig's just gone over. So in part I could I could give you some of my personal preferences but I could also th add some to this which is just about sort of um sort of market research.
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: But anyway, um
  Robert Scott: Shall we sh well
  Sherman Mckinney: we might
  Robert Scott: we'll
  Sherman Mckinney: come
  Robert Scott: stick
  Sherman Mckinney: to that later.
  Harry Townsend: Which
  Robert Scott: to kind
  Harry Townsend: which
  Robert Scott: of
  Harry Townsend: is
  Robert Scott: your
  Harry Townsend: the clunky
  Robert Scott: area
  Harry Townsend: one,
  Robert Scott: for now.
  Harry Townsend: the one on left
  Jeff Cruz: Um,
  Harry Townsend: or
  Jeff Cruz: the
  Harry Townsend: on
  Jeff Cruz: clunky
  Harry Townsend: the
  Jeff Cruz: one
  Harry Townsend: right?..
  Jeff Cruz: is the one on the right.
  Harry Townsend: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Um clunky in what sense, like um h heavier? Larger?
  Jeff Cruz: Um I think it's supposed to be the same size, but um it's got much fewer buttons. It's, you know,
  Sherman Mckinney: I see, so
  Jeff Cruz: it's
  Sherman Mckinney: it's more
  Jeff Cruz: very
  Sherman Mckinney: just
  Jeff Cruz: spread out
  Robert Scott: Looks
  Jeff Cruz: and
  Sherman Mckinney: basic.
  Robert Scott: kind
  Jeff Cruz: kind
  Robert Scott: of
  Jeff Cruz: of
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Right, okay.
  Jeff Cruz: you know, I get the idea it'd be sort of about this size.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Jeff Cruz: got very few buttons on
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Jeff Cruz: it and
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: Well I think it's a valid point. I mean like the one on the left looks quite um quite complicated, and that P_R_T_ p P_R_O_T_ thing is incredibly confusing. Um so I see I see why yo you know you might prefer the simpler design, but yeah you don't want to lose out on, you know, what it does,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: so maybe you know you know you get a lot of remote controls where you kind of flip the thing open, I think that's a
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: good idea. I
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: think it's a good idea.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Jeff Cruz: Um, do we have any functions that um we'd want on it? I mean so far I've got um on and off,
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Jeff Cruz: um switch the channel up and down, and put the volume up and down.
  Robert Scott: Uh-huh.
  Jeff Cruz: Um they're just the the very basics you could use for a T_V_.
  Robert Scott: Uh-huh, and then actual numbers for channels as well, yeah.
  Jeff Cruz: Okay. Um, you say that's a h a required one or a requested one?
  Sherman Mckinney: Which
  Jeff Cruz: Would you
  Sherman Mckinney: was that?
  Jeff Cruz: like um the channels like the the numbers
  Sherman Mckinney: Up
  Jeff Cruz: on
  Sherman Mckinney: the numbers,
  Jeff Cruz: thing,
  Sherman Mckinney: or the up down?
  Robert Scott: God,
  Jeff Cruz: um
  Robert Scott: I wou I would say that's required, I mean there's no way anybody's gonna buy a remote control these days when if you can't actually individually
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: select channels, I mean would anybody disagree
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: with that? Um, what else, uh So don't need to worry about teletext, don't need to worry about V_C_R_, uh any kind of
  Sherman Mckinney: We
  Robert Scott: like
  Sherman Mckinney: don't?
  Robert Scott: display
  Sherman Mckinney: No?
  Robert Scott: controls at all do you think we need to worry about, you know like
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: brightness and contrast?
  Sherman Mckinney: Well I think I think es essentially what we're doing right now is we're categorising. We're saying well we want this to be a product that offers all the
  Robert Scott: Mm.
  Sherman Mckinney: sort of more tricky features but we want them to be in another area? Is that right? Is that what we're
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Jeff Cruz: Um,
  Sherman Mckinney: we're doing? We're kind
  Jeff Cruz: yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: of like sorting them an Or
  Jeff Cruz: Um
  Sherman Mckinney: are we actually eliminating things we just don't want the product to have?
  Robert Scott: I think are you are you maybe kind of thinking what we absolutely have to have and what would
  Jeff Cruz: Uh,
  Robert Scott: be nice?
  Jeff Cruz: to start with um sort of a bit both, um we need to find out exactly what we have to have
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Jeff Cruz: um and after that we can add things if they're possible.
  Robert Scott: Okay, right. Well, do you wanna maybe just, at this point decide on what we absolutely must have as
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: a p as a function of this.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yep.
  Robert Scott: Um, so so far, just to recap you've got
  Jeff Cruz: There's um
  Robert Scott: volume
  Jeff Cruz: on and off,
  Robert Scott: and channel
  Jeff Cruz: um
  Robert Scott: control and
  Jeff Cruz: volume and channel, and skip to certain channels with the numbers.
  Robert Scott: Right okay. Um
  Sherman Mckinney: Well, one one way I would look at this um would be that we a approach the different controls in terms of um like control types, so that for the user it's very clear what they want to do where they
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm
  Sherman Mckinney: go.
  Robert Scott: yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Uh and also think maybe a little bit about sorta w w what would just wanna be acc easily accessible. For example
  Robert Scott: Oka
  Sherman Mckinney: if we had audio controls, those could be something people set up very rarely. Maybe they're un they're they're they're in a little area
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: but covered up um, things like channel and volume um are used all the time, so we just have them right out on top, um very just very sort of self-explanatory. Um so maybe we need to think about having three or more groupings of controls, you know like one which are just the the habitual ones that should be right within your natural grip. And others that are uh also available and then others that are concealed. Something
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: like that.
  Robert Scott: Uh well, just to to wrap up quickly on this this little section Have I just lost Oh no. Um, uh do you think maybe that's the only kind of uh essential requirements, and then maybe just things that would be nice if it could do would be things like audio set up and display set up and things like that, maybe like a mute button, that sort of thing.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: Any of you anything to add to that at all?
  Harry Townsend: No.
  Robert Scott: No.
  Harry Townsend: I'll add it later, I guess the
  Robert Scott: Okay,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: presentation.
  Robert Scott: right.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: Um okay, if we can move on to next presentation then please.
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: Um
  Jeff Cruz: Do
  Robert Scott: Do
  Jeff Cruz: you
  Robert Scott: you wanna
  Jeff Cruz: want to
  Sherman Mckinney: Can
  Jeff Cruz: switch places?
  Sherman Mckinney: this can this pl reach? Can this plug
  Harry Townsend: No.
  Sherman Mckinney: come across?
  Robert Scott: Probably
  Harry Townsend: No.
  Robert Scott: not, actually.
  Sherman Mckinney: No. So why don't I just pick up and move
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: then. Here, I'll just Why don't I just
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm
  Jeff Cruz: Just just switch them.
  Sherman Mckinney: er, can you go up behind Sherman Mckinney? Kinda This is so This
  Robert Scott: bit complicated. It'd
  Sherman Mckinney: I'm all in
  Robert Scott: be
  Sherman Mckinney: a
  Robert Scott: nice
  Sherman Mckinney: knot
  Robert Scott: if everything
  Sherman Mckinney: now.
  Robert Scott: was wireless, wouldn't it?
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Right.
  Sherman Mckinney: Um. So I can I can say already, I dunno whether this is for good or for bad but there'll be a lot of kind of uh redundancy in the in the the issues and the the uh
  Robert Scott: Oh, like
  Sherman Mckinney: the things.
  Robert Scott: overlap between
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah,
  Robert Scott: what you said?
  Sherman Mckinney: yeah. Which
  Robert Scott: that
  Sherman Mckinney: is ma not
  Robert Scott: that'll happen.
  Sherman Mckinney: necessarily a bad thing, but may what I've already started doing is cr I created a slide in in my presentation here so um so that we kind of think well what's the cumulative effect of what we've taken from your ideas and and mine, because certainly I I have a hard time separating separating things completely. Obviously
  Robert Scott: Mm hard to know what
  Sherman Mckinney: obviously
  Robert Scott: where your
  Sherman Mckinney: what
  Robert Scott: role
  Sherman Mckinney: you've just
  Robert Scott: ends,
  Sherman Mckinney: told
  Robert Scott: yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Sherman Mckinney what you've just told Sherman Mckinney impacts a lot on what um like market research mm that that I've been So
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: how do I how do I get
  Harry Townsend: Um
  Sherman Mckinney: this
  Harry Townsend: function
  Sherman Mckinney: up?
  Harry Townsend: F_ eight.
  Robert Scott: Uh pr yeah, press
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: function and F_ eight, yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay. Alright. So F_ eight?
  Harry Townsend: Function, the blue button. Next to the control on the left.
  Sherman Mckinney: Oh, and F_
  Harry Townsend: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: Mm.
  Sherman Mckinney: eight.
  Harry Townsend: You
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: have to push it together.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: Yep.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay, I think that that's doing it now.
  Harry Townsend: Nope. Try that again.
  Sherman Mckinney: Uh, again?
  Jeff Cruz: Think maybe the
  Harry Townsend: Wait.
  Jeff Cruz: the wire in the back might be loose.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Yeah, you wanna
  Sherman Mckinney: Um,
  Robert Scott: Oh oh here
  Harry Townsend: Yep,
  Robert Scott: we
  Sherman Mckinney: okay
  Harry Townsend: there
  Robert Scott: go.
  Harry Townsend: we
  Sherman Mckinney: great.
  Harry Townsend: go.
  Robert Scott: There you go.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay. Just um Before I bring this up what I'll just say is um what I've what I've done is tried to collect some information so that I can then relay this to to you guys so that it's now becomes a collective thing. And then kind of lead us in the direction of deciding, 'kay what what are our options, what should we decide and do you know what I mean, so.
  Harry Townsend: Increase
  Robert Scott: Um
  Harry Townsend: that 'cause see the
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: That's much better.
  Robert Scott: Right. Can you um
  Harry Townsend: There
  Robert Scott: Right,
  Harry Townsend: you go.
  Robert Scott: okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay. Alright. That would be Okay. So um does that make sense? So what I basically got is I just looked into some information and sort of th tried to think about how how we could review it and how we could and what kind of decisions we could take away from it and then maybe by the end of just looking at some of these things we can think about what are our priorities. 'Cause certainly there's lots of different information to go through. So um I'm thinking here about uh primarily about customer needs, that we start with the customer, and w you know, what they want and what are issues with with um existing products. Uh to think about trends and also about try and connect that as you see with the company vision which is about fashion in electronics. Um and then, as I say uh w we'd like to prioritise our design features from this and um
  Harry Townsend: Bouncing on top.
  Sherman Mckinney: Dunno. Okay.
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Um. found here, um a lot of this is new to Sherman Mckinney, so we'll just read through together. Um, users dislike the look and feel of current remote controls. So they find them ugly. Most people find them ugly. Um the vast majority would spend more money for it to look fancy as well, we'll see later, the vast majority would spend more money for um slightly more intuitive control, such as
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: voice recognition. Okay I'm gonna we'll look at that in a second. Um most people use only a f a very slim portion of all the controls. So I guess what we're looking at here is people want this h technology, they tend to use the most simple controls and overall they find remote controls to be something they don't doesn't really appeal to them.
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: So I think what we're doing is we're trying to take like if for Sherman Mckinney this is sorta like three different different um inspirations, you know, one is that we want uh something that's high-tech but we want it to seem easy. And in spite of the primitive side of it and the very high-tech side, we want it to just be an appealing piece of equipment in people's hands. Um, frustrations. They get lost a lot, s as it came up in our last meeting. Um, takes time to learn how to use them. This is uh why I mention when Craig was uh showing us some ideas that we actually try and group controls, so d it doesn't just look like a big panel, kinda like when you you look at, you know, a new computer keyboard, or something that is quite explanatory. If you want audio, if you want visual, then you have those. Um and I will admit I don't know what R_S_I_ stands for.
  Robert Scott: Repetitive strain injury.
  Harry Townsend: Is installing a new remote control something that people
  Sherman Mckinney: Uh, no, that did not come up at all. Um so here here is another um sort of a a review here of the main things. I also found that most people would uh adults at least would pay more for voice recognition. Now apparently we do have access to all the tech cutting edge technology in remote control. So I dunno if that's possible we might consider getting into it. Um. And and again here as we sort of move m sort of thin start thinking about how we wanna sell and market this, I think a recurring theme here is the company wants it to be wants us to make something that's fashionable and sleek
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: and trendy. Um people uh additionally aren't aren't liking the appearance of their products, so we wanna think about as we take all the sort of the techie features how we can um put that into a unit which is which people like. You know,
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: they like the aesthetics and the ergonomics.
  Robert Scott: So want something that looks good and is easy to use,
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: big priorities.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah,
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: so you know just c looking at what what Craig um Craig's i uh ideas are s sorta tell Sherman Mckinney that maybe what we wanna do is try and um separate the different things that we wanna include in this. So if we do say well we want there to be all the technology will we try and make that almost be like optional technology. You know, it's like like I find a lot of T_V_s these days, something really like about 'em is if you wanna just turn 'em on and off you can, but they have little panels where you click
  Robert Scott: Mm.
  Sherman Mckinney: and there's just like tons of features
  Robert Scott: So
  Sherman Mckinney: you
  Robert Scott: it
  Sherman Mckinney: go
  Robert Scott: you
  Sherman Mckinney: through.
  Robert Scott: wanna group all the different kind of
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: types of functions together, you know. That's I think
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: it's a good idea.
  Sherman Mckinney: That's s that's sort of the um But I I'm my hope here is that I'm putting out this information so that we can then say okay, well how do we collectively move
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: on with it. Um
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: I I haven't brought out one specific marketing idea, although my sense is that what we should try and think about is what are the current trends in materials and shapes and styles,
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: and then use that. But not let that confine us technologically.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: So
  Robert Scott: Right.
  Sherman Mckinney: Alright? Any um comments on all of that?
  Robert Scott: Well, um
  Sherman Mckinney: That's
  Robert Scott: one
  Sherman Mckinney: uh
  Robert Scott: of the things that we have to decide on by the end of the meeting is who we're gonna be um who's our our target audience, our target market.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: Um, so if we want something that that looks good and is easy to use, but has y is fairly powerful product, whatever, who do we really want to aim that at?
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: I mean
  Sherman Mckinney: Where's the money, maybe.
  Robert Scott: Yeah, who wou who would have the money to spend.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: Well i if
  Sherman Mckinney: And who watches
  Robert Scott: if like
  Sherman Mckinney: T_V_.
  Robert Scott: twenty five Euro is our is our selling price
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: then you can imagine, well I don't I'm not really sure how much that will
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm.
  Robert Scott: retail at. But you want it's somebody who's not gonna just use the remote that comes with their telly, I suppose,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: they're gonna actually go out and buy one.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: So, who do you think we're aiming this at?
  Harry Townsend: Um, I think it'll be the mid range to the high end market, in terms of people. 'Cause twenty five Euros for a remote, how much is that lo locally in pounds?
  Robert Scott: It's about sixteen, seventeen pounds, I think.
  Harry Townsend: Is that too is that a lot of money to buy an extra remote or a replacement
  Robert Scott: Yeah,
  Harry Townsend: remote?
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: okay.
  Harry Townsend: Right. Um so maybe not the high end range, but maybe middle, middle up-ish.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Kind of. You know how much? I dunno I guess you pay,
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: what, ten ten quid for a remote? Like a simple replacement,
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: right. I mean if you lost your remote and the first thing
  Robert Scott: Yeah,
  Harry Townsend: you just wanna go
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: out and get,
  Robert Scott: yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: This
  Harry Townsend: would you
  Sherman Mckinney: this
  Harry Townsend: how much
  Sherman Mckinney: kinda
  Harry Townsend: would you
  Sherman Mckinney: touches
  Harry Townsend: pay?
  Sherman Mckinney: on your comments there, David. These are the age groups which we
  Harry Townsend: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: have information on and these are this is a table of h what people would pay more for a certain feature. Just
  Robert Scott: Okay
  Sherman Mckinney: gives us a rough idea of where the w the will to spend money on T_V_ equipment is.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mostly focused around the twenty five age group.
  Robert Scott: Yeah, so do you think we're we're aiming at a fairly young market then?
  Harry Townsend: Yep.
  Sherman Mckinney: Sort of young professional, kind
  Robert Scott: Yeah,
  Sherman Mckinney: of. Mm-hmm
  Robert Scott: okay.
  Jeff Cruz: Um
  Robert Scott: Um do you think then uh voice recognition is something we should really seriously consider? What what do you think, Craig?
  Jeff Cruz: Well, did you not say it was the the adults that were going for the the voice recognition? Sort of the
  Sherman Mckinney: Uh,
  Jeff Cruz: the older
  Sherman Mckinney: yeah,
  Jeff Cruz: group.
  Sherman Mckinney: it's the Yep.
  Jeff Cruz: Uh
  Sherman Mckinney: It
  Jeff Cruz: f
  Sherman Mckinney: does it does fit with the market that we're sort of identifying,
  Robert Scott: N yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: in terms of
  Robert Scott: I think we are gonna have to narrow it down, to say let's target these
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: people and give them what they want and
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: 'cause you know,
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: there needs to be some kind of
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: selling point to
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: it. So um anybody anything there to add Just kind of young professionals, uh th like if we are going to include speech recognition, it's kind of between fifteen and thirty five seems to be like a really high response to that.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: So we could say
  Harry Townsend: I
  Robert Scott: that
  Harry Townsend: I
  Robert Scott: was
  Harry Townsend: think
  Robert Scott: our target.
  Harry Townsend: twenty five to thirty five is is is fair to add that in as
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: a group
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: as well because
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: that's more than half your group of people who are willing to at least try
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah,
  Harry Townsend: and use your technology.
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: yeah.
  Robert Scott: Okay, so fifteen to thirty five, look fairly young.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: You know, they have bit of expendable income to spend on this sort of thing.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: I think perhaps that age group is significant as well because those are people who use the computer,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: who are familiar with their with computers in in their everyday work.
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: I think people who are maybe about
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: I wouldn't say thirty five, but people who are about
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: forty-ish and above now
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: would
  Sherman Mckinney: But
  Harry Townsend: not
  Sherman Mckinney: yeah.
  Harry Townsend: be so dependent and reliant on a computer
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: or
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah,
  Harry Townsend: a mobile
  Sherman Mckinney: sure.
  Harry Townsend: phone or something like that.
  Robert Scott: So
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: So these are people who are gadgety, right? People
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: who are u growing up used to, you know in schools and in universities, when you go on to their working lives,
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: people who would
  Robert Scott: So
  Harry Townsend: you
  Robert Scott: they'll
  Harry Townsend: know regular
  Robert Scott: not sh not shy
  Harry Townsend: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: away from something
  Harry Townsend: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: quite high-tech.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: That that's
  Harry Townsend: Mm.
  Robert Scott: that's a good point. Um okay, so um so shall we make the decision uh to include speech recognition
  Sherman Mckinney: If we can.
  Robert Scott: if we can.
  Harry Townsend: I I think
  Jeff Cruz: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: one thing we should try not to avoid is not to say we have to use speech recognition right now,
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: because
  Robert Scott: Why is that?
  Harry Townsend: um, based on what you've go y everybody's saying, right, you want something simple. You want basic stuff and you want something that's easy to use. Speech recognition might not be the simplest thing
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: for somebody
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: to use.
  Sherman Mckinney: Could it be an on off thing?
  Harry Townsend: Um,
  Sherman Mckinney: Like if you want it
  Robert Scott: Where you can
  Harry Townsend: but
  Robert Scott: activate
  Harry Townsend: what
  Sherman Mckinney: on
  Harry Townsend: I'm saying
  Robert Scott: it and
  Harry Townsend: is
  Robert Scott: deactivate
  Harry Townsend: that we're
  Robert Scott: it?
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: we're trying to lock ourselves into a s particular kind of technology,
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: rather than focusing on on exactly what are the features that we're
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: gonna say,
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: and then, you know,
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Harry Townsend: say speech recognition is good for this, speech recognition is not good for this.
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Harry Townsend: So
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: maybe we should I suggest
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: that we think about speech recognition,
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Harry Townsend: anyway it's a it's something that can be used to fulfil a function, but
  Robert Scott: Uh-huh.
  Harry Townsend: at end of the day we don't look at the technology, but
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: we look at the function first.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure. Yep.
  Robert Scott: Uh okay, well do you wanna um give us your presentation
  Harry Townsend: Okay, sure.
  Robert Scott: and then then we can I
  Sherman Mckinney: Yep.
  Robert Scott: don't know um might have been a good idea to all deliver our presentations and then discuss,
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah,
  Robert Scott: but
  Sherman Mckinney: it's
  Robert Scott: this is
  Sherman Mckinney: good
  Robert Scott: this
  Sherman Mckinney: well
  Robert Scott: is
  Sherman Mckinney: it's
  Robert Scott: how we're
  Sherman Mckinney: good to get ideas out while
  Robert Scott: Yeah,
  Sherman Mckinney: they're fresh in mind.
  Robert Scott: exactly, yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Um
  Robert Scott: Oh it's something that's just occurred to Sherman Mckinney as well is if we make it um speech reco if we incorporate speech recognition, that's appealing to people um maybe with
  Sherman Mckinney: Not
  Robert Scott: a physical disability as well.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: Um.
  Sherman Mckinney: And not losing. And also it helps in terms of people not losing this, you know they
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: they're saying oh it's I lose it in the couch.
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: like we're kind of what we're b sort of getting in into here is mating different uh design features
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Sherman Mckinney: together that they
  Jeff Cruz: I reckon one problem with speech recognition is um I've actually seen one of them used and uh the technology that was in that one wasn't particularly amazing, so you end up yelling at the control for hours.
  Robert Scott: Really?
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Jeff Cruz: Channel up.
  Sherman Mckinney: Oh really, you've seen one before.
  Robert Scott: Do you think maybe we need like
  Jeff Cruz: Um
  Robert Scott: further advances in that kind of area until it's worthwhile incorporating
  Jeff Cruz: I think it'd
  Robert Scott: it
  Jeff Cruz: probably
  Robert Scott: though?
  Jeff Cruz: quite expensive
  Harry Townsend: Sorry, do
  Jeff Cruz: to
  Harry Townsend: you mind passing
  Robert Scott: Mm.
  Jeff Cruz: put in.
  Harry Townsend: Sherman Mckinney my
  Robert Scott: Course
  Harry Townsend: notepad.
  Robert Scott: not.
  Harry Townsend: Thanks. Cool,
  Robert Scott: There you go.
  Harry Townsend: um. Okay. Um.
  Robert Scott: Right.
  Harry Townsend: Well this is just the working design
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: um. Well this is just what how I would go about it. Um I guess I try to define like what we're doing now, try to define what we're trying to get done. Um
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: I think in a practical way, we kind of know what it is. We've used it, we're familiar with it, but we're we can't n we haven't narrowed down um exactly what the things we're trying to fulfil, like Besides the basics, I think back in the back of our minds we know what the basics are. Has to change channels, has to change volume, but in like specifics, right, which one of the basics are you trying to target.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: Um are there certain parts of the basics that are more important or less important than the basics? Um and I just the idea is just to get everybody to um I usually have a have have a design that's there as a basic, so, you know, things that to start everything going. But I guess everybody does have some idea, so I don't think um there's a need for that. Um okay this finding things is a little bit confusing, so I'll go into the diagram first. It just explains how the process goes through,
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: from a from the basic technology point of view, the basic steps that you need um in the diagram and in this slide probably works better. Um okay, you need some power source. 'Kay, a battery or something,
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: to keep it going. Um and that power source is important because it ties you down to um how long the device will last.
  Robert Scott: Uh-huh.
  Harry Townsend: Um it ties you down perhaps a bit later on in terms of the technologies um how far you can transmit the signal or the complexity of the functions
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: that you want. Like for example, voice recognition, right. might be constrained because that you might need to power a microphone, you might need to power other things, so that's one perhaps constraint there. Um Th Okay, the basic thing is there's a user interface where people punch a button or talk into it or smile to it or blink their eyes, whatever.
  Robert Scott: Hmm.
  Harry Townsend: You know, and that um picks up an input from a user, um uh a logic a series of logic has to decide what the user is telling the device, and the device has to r you know, based on you push button A_, so I will do something with button A_. So maybe button
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: A_ is the power button,
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: okay. Um and then it needs to be able to send the signal out to the device itself which is the receiver here. Um and I think that's about it in terms of my design um. It's fairly general, um and I guess the purpose of this is also not to restrict you
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: in in the way you're thinking, like um voice recognition, right, um, if it's something which is important then we just add more power rather than having a thing that we don't have enough power. So it's not
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: really a constraint in that sense,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: but I mean these are functionally, you know, the base,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: what
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: the technology has to do.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: Um so I guess the rest of it I think we should maybe you you wanna go back to what the functions are? I think that's
  Sherman Mckinney: 'Kay.
  Robert Scott: Uh.
  Harry Townsend: more relevant to a discussion?
  Robert Scott: Well, do
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: you wan do you wanna finish up
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: your your whole presentation
  Harry Townsend: Yeah, w I'm done.
  Robert Scott: then? Are you are you all done?
  Harry Townsend: More or less. Yeah. Ps Oh, it's just putting the rest of it into words, but it's essentially
  Sherman Mckinney: Yep.
  Harry Townsend: the same thing.
  Robert Scott: Mm.
  Harry Townsend: Um you have a transmitter, an input
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: device, logic chip, you know, stuff
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: like that. Um
  Robert Scott: Right.
  Sherman Mckinney: And like on the means
  Harry Townsend: I guess this would
  Sherman Mckinney: b
  Harry Townsend: be
  Sherman Mckinney: Since we're on the topic of the technology,
  Harry Townsend: Yep.
  Sherman Mckinney: uh are there any like what are our options? Alright, what's what i in Is this the only way that we go about it, or are there
  Harry Townsend: Um,
  Sherman Mckinney: other
  Harry Townsend: these these
  Sherman Mckinney: thin
  Harry Townsend: aren't technology options in that sense.
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: This is just um
  Sherman Mckinney: The basic
  Harry Townsend: a
  Sherman Mckinney: principle
  Harry Townsend: basic
  Sherman Mckinney: of
  Harry Townsend: principles
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: and
  Sherman Mckinney: 'Kay.
  Harry Townsend: basic components that are needed.
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: For example, if you needed um if you needed to add uh a voice recognition, right, then your user interface would be split, broken down into more components,
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: right, which you have a microphone,
  Robert Scott: Oh.
  Harry Townsend: the V_R_
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: and stuff like that.
  Robert Scott: So this just show how
  Harry Townsend: Uh
  Robert Scott: we're kind of modularising the whole
  Harry Townsend: Yep.
  Robert Scott: thing. Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Yep. So each component represents one function,
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: but I think the basic functions are the logic, the transmitter, um and the receiver,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: okay, and the power are things that you won't have to care about.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: Um and those are things that based on what your user interface requires then
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: we'll add more functionality to it.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Um there might be one other consideration which would be that the the transmission between the remote control and the T_V_ for example.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Okay,
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: um are we gonna restrict ourselves to using the traditional technologies of infra-red
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: thing? Because that's something you need to actually be physically be pointing to.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: Right.
  Robert Scott: Well well a worry that was was expressed in the new requirements was that if we made this too complex it would e it would effect um how long how long it took us to get this to market, so I th suspect it might be a good idea just to restrict our kind of our creative influence on this on the user interface and not worry so much about uh how we transmit it
  Harry Townsend: Yep.
  Robert Scott: um because I mean it it's tried and tested intra-red, so
  Harry Townsend: There might
  Robert Scott: we
  Harry Townsend: be
  Robert Scott: could
  Harry Townsend: one
  Robert Scott: stay with tha
  Harry Townsend: other problem with the transmission, um in particular right now, since we're talking about voice recognition. Um if somebody's gonna h talk to the device, you ideally
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm
  Harry Townsend: want them to hold it to them.
  Robert Scott: Oh,
  Harry Townsend: I it
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Robert Scott: yeah.
  Harry Townsend: you may not require that, but
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: you know, um it's it's it's something very natural, I guess,
  Robert Scott: Yeah,
  Harry Townsend: you know, to
  Robert Scott: mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: hold it, to signal to the user, and push a button maybe to start s talking
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: about it. Then you need to send the signal out, so
  Robert Scott: Mm.
  Harry Townsend: because if you're using infra-red, the line of sight
  Robert Scott: Mm.
  Harry Townsend: um say the T_V_'s at that chair, and I'm standing in front of here and the transmitter is here,
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: it blocks it.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: So in that sense, there's not really a restriction but it's something which
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: you may have to think about later on in the process.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Not so much
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: further
  Sherman Mckinney: And
  Harry Townsend: down.
  Sherman Mckinney: um just a clarification before we finish this. Uh does c is our controller is it have the option of being um on a standard uh frequency as all of the other equipment, so that the one controller can control
  Harry Townsend: There's there's not much specific
  Sherman Mckinney: several pieces of
  Harry Townsend: specific
  Sherman Mckinney: equipment?
  Harry Townsend: information,
  Robert Scott: W
  Harry Townsend: but I think that um one indication of infra-red mean that you're just targeting traditional devices.
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Because
  Robert Scott: W
  Harry Townsend: infra-red is something which everybody has.
  Robert Scott: Well well we've um In the new requirement spec they said just to focus
  Sherman Mckinney: Just
  Robert Scott: on
  Sherman Mckinney: to
  Robert Scott: the T_V_,
  Sherman Mckinney: T_V_, okay.
  Robert Scott: so that's what we should do for now I think.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Something I was wondering about was the power. Um, is it worth considering like having like a charging unit as opposed to just regular batteries? I mean is that something we really want to go into, do you think, or should we
  Harry Townsend: There's
  Robert Scott: just consider
  Harry Townsend: a there's
  Robert Scott: running
  Harry Townsend: Okay,
  Robert Scott: on
  Harry Townsend: from
  Robert Scott: regular
  Harry Townsend: from
  Robert Scott: batteries?
  Harry Townsend: a from a component point of view there's added complexity,
  Robert Scott: Uh-huh.
  Harry Townsend: and you add cost to it,
  Robert Scott: Uh-huh.
  Harry Townsend: um and then there's probably the fact that you need another physical component. You need a docking cradle, for
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: example,
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: for you to
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: put it in to charge.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Or you need to get the user to plug it in. Um
  Robert Scott: Okay, so
  Harry Townsend: and most users are very f use already used to the idea of buying batteries and putting it into
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: the controller. But unless the controller's gonna consume a lot of batteries, like he's gonna run through like
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: twenty batteries a month, then I don't think rechargeable is something we should you know, we
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: Okay,
  Harry Townsend: really
  Robert Scott: so
  Harry Townsend: need
  Robert Scott: just
  Harry Townsend: to
  Robert Scott: stick to to regular
  Harry Townsend: care about. Um.
  Robert Scott: Okay. Um, right. So basically the um I'm just gonna just recap uh what I said at the start, was that um the the whole point of this meeting was to f absolutely finalise who we're gonna aim this at, and
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: what exactly the product's gonna do.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: So um just to recap on Are we all happy about the idea of um aiming the product at um the fifteen to thirty five bracket?
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah,
  Robert Scott: Um
  Sherman Mckinney: that's
  Robert Scott: and
  Sherman Mckinney: good.
  Robert Scott: also the funct the the actual functions of what it's gonna do. Do you wanna recap on that, Craig?
  Jeff Cruz: Um. I think we just say that it was gonna be the the most basic stuff possible. Um on off, up and down channels, up and down volume and uh skip to a channel.
  Robert Scott: Okay,
  Jeff Cruz: Ta.
  Sherman Mckinney: And
  Robert Scott: right.
  Sherman Mckinney: is it going to include any of the uh the more advanced features, or are we gonna eliminate those?
  Jeff Cruz: Um I think we include mute, but apart from that um I think we just we'll go for the simpleness.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Okay,
  Sherman Mckinney: R
  Harry Townsend: I
  Sherman Mckinney: is
  Harry Townsend: think
  Sherman Mckinney: it is it is it s is it not an option still that we include some things just as a sort of under like sort of under a door
  Robert Scott: Yeah,
  Jeff Cruz: Yeah.
  Robert Scott: it's
  Sherman Mckinney: or
  Robert Scott: as
  Sherman Mckinney: some
  Robert Scott: optional functions.
  Sherman Mckinney: 'Cause what what I'm I'd be a bit worried about is if someone was h had previously developed habits of expecting to control surround sound or this and that with their controller and then and then they, you know, w they get ours and w it's doesn't have that. I dunno
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: if that'd be a problem.
  Harry Townsend: Another thing that you were saying about categorising the controls?
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: Um maybe I could suggest we we break them down into three simple categories.
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah. Okay.
  Harry Townsend: One would be audio controls,
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: one would be video controls,
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: and the other one would be a device. Um this may not map very well to advanced functionality especially, but I think that um from a manufacturer's point of view,
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: from a person designing the device, but I think from a point of view of a person using the device, you know a T_V_ is something they see and something they hear,
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: um it's something they do other things to like turn it on and turn it off.
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: I mean like
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: so what we could have is like three buckets, right, where we could throw things into, like if we want this feature, let's throw it into there,
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: and then from there decide whether it's basic, or it's non-basic.
  Sherman Mckinney: 'Kay, okay.
  Harry Townsend: I mean
  Sherman Mckinney: Like
  Harry Townsend: it
  Sherman Mckinney: that.
  Harry Townsend: might help with the visualisation.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: And it would actually help with the component build
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: as well.
  Robert Scott: Okay,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm okay, great.
  Robert Scott: right. Um, okay well I gotta kind of got five minutes to wrap up now. Um next thing we're doing is having lunch. Whoohoo. Um and then we're gonna have thirty minutes of working on the next stage. Um so I'll be putting the minutes of this uh this meeting into the project documents folder.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: Um so uh I guess just to just to confirm that we know what we're doing in the next well
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: in the thirty minutes after lunch anyway, um for uh our Industrial Designer, you're gonna be thinking about the components concept. Um User Interface Designer gonna be thinking about our user interface, and marketing you're gonna be thinking about trend watching. Um and you'll all get specific instructions as well. So um I dunno, just just to to ask now if you've got anything else you've thought about while we've been talking. Um, do you wanna start with David. Anything else to say at all?
  Harry Townsend: Mm no, not
  Robert Scott: No,
  Harry Townsend: really.
  Robert Scott: okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Um
  Robert Scott: Andrew?
  Sherman Mckinney: yeah, just I just wanted to ask then before we wrap up, shall we agree for sake of um sort of clarity and when we when we r resume that we'll u use this idea David's proposed, where we think of these three sort of buckets and
  Robert Scott: Yeah,
  Sherman Mckinney: anything
  Robert Scott: yeah I think
  Sherman Mckinney: anything
  Robert Scott: that's definitely
  Sherman Mckinney: we discuss
  Robert Scott: a good
  Sherman Mckinney: about
  Robert Scott: idea.
  Sherman Mckinney: them is sort of, okay, we're talking about this.
  Robert Scott: Uh-huh.
  Sherman Mckinney: Shall we
  Harry Townsend: Mm.
  Sherman Mckinney: do that, then?
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay, great.
  Jeff Cruz: Um just about the three buckets, um what would go in the the device functions one?
  Harry Townsend: Um things like on off. Because they don't have anything to do with what you see.
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: I Sherman Mckinney mean in terms of picture and the entertainment value, you know, um
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: so um
  Sherman Mckinney: And
  Jeff Cruz: Um
  Sherman Mckinney: and channel.
  Harry Townsend: And channel.
  Sherman Mckinney: Right.
  Harry Townsend: Because the on off also goes, you know, like on off like power, not on off sound. Not
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: on off video. Although you don't turn off the video on your T_V_, but um you
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: might wanna you know turn off the sound, say you wanna pick up the phone, there's a mute button, right, so
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: you you have you have a choice of putting it on to um others or a device. Device is basically anything which we can't categorise, right.
  Robert Scott: Okay,
  Harry Townsend: We
  Robert Scott: so
  Harry Townsend: put it
  Robert Scott: you're
  Harry Townsend: out.
  Robert Scott: gonna have um audio which is gonna be like you know your bass settings and
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: actual volume
  Harry Townsend: Yeah, anything to do with
  Robert Scott: hi
  Harry Townsend: what you hear, right.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: You you put that into audio.
  Robert Scott: Okay,
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: And
  Robert Scott: and then
  Harry Townsend: then
  Robert Scott: visual
  Harry Townsend: video is anything that you can see.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: Okay,
  Harry Townsend: Um.
  Robert Scott: so brightness, contrast,
  Harry Townsend: Yep.
  Robert Scott: things like that,
  Sherman Mckinney: Colour, yeah.
  Robert Scott: and then just actual device things,
  Harry Townsend: Yep.
  Robert Scott: like
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: what channel you're watching,
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure.
  Robert Scott: turning on an off,
  Harry Townsend: Yep.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: stuff like that. Okay,
  Sherman Mckinney: And
  Robert Scott: um
  Sherman Mckinney: then k I suppose quite likely what would happen is in the d device category there might be some which are just like the habitual standard and then others which are maybe a bit more
  Harry Townsend: Like
  Robert Scott: Mm-hmm.
  Harry Townsend: random which we
  Sherman Mckinney: Yeah.
  Harry Townsend: have no other place to put,
  Robert Scott: Yeah.
  Sherman Mckinney: Sure,
  Harry Townsend: but we
  Sherman Mckinney: okay.
  Harry Townsend: need it somewhere there.
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: Um even even if it doesn't map very clearly what happens is that people at least have some in their mind. It's easy to use, I think that's one thing that um and I guess from the component point of
  Robert Scott: Okay.
  Harry Townsend: view it's easy to build as well 'cause things are like fixed.
  Sherman Mckinney: Okay.
  Robert Scott: Okay. Um so yeah, I guess just things to think about are you know like the fact it's gotta look good, because of who we're we're, you know, targeting this at. Um something maybe kind of quirky in design maybe.
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: Make it kind of ergonomic kind of to
  Sherman Mckinney: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Scott: hold, you know, things like that. Um, so I guess I guess that's it.
  Sherman Mckinney: Great.
  Robert Scott: That's the meeting over. Whoohoo.
  Sherman Mckinney: Then we get to go find out what was picked up for lunch for us.
Updated Content: Robert Scott briefed the team on some new requirements to consider when designing the remote. Jeff Cruz presented two existing products and discussed what was wrong with each product. The team discussed how to create a remote which did not include the problems present in the existing products presented by the interface specialist. Sherman Mckinney presented consumer preferences and requirements and the team discussed who their target demographic should be and whether to include speech recognition in their product. Harry Townsend discussed the interior workings of a remote and the team discussed various options for components and energy sources. The team then discussed features to include in the remote and what they could do to figure out how to categorize them.