Extracted Content: Rod Stanley: Is everyone ready to start?
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Yes.
  Rod Stanley: Okay. Great Well. welcome to the third meeting of conceptual design. I'll just get the PowerPoint presentation up and running. Okay. Um, on the agenda for this, um, for this particular meeting, we'll have your three presentations on what you've done since our last meeting, after we came up with um some general ideas of our design. And, um, then we have to make some key decisions on, on our concept, how we're gonna make it, what uh materials we're gonna use, and that sort of thing. The meeting will be forty minutes long.
  Christopher Mayfield: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: And um we will once again have Poppy as our first presenter.
  Christopher Mayfield: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Alright, and I will switch up PowerPoint.
  Christopher Mayfield: Thank you.
  Rod Stanley: Okay.
  Christopher Mayfield: Should be just loading. Okay. Oh, although I can't see it on my screen. That says go here. Okay. I've been doing some research into the different components that we could use, um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um, first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made, and what is it happens inside the casing, which is more your field. Um thes, main internal feature is a circuit board, which contains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source. Which is not necessarily a battery, as we're about to see. Um, there are several components of, um, the circuit board that we need to consider, where we'll be getting them from, what they'll be made of. Um, including the integrated circuit, which is also known as the chip. Which is where all the main information is uh contained. Um, diodes, transistors, resonators, resistors, and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well. Um, and
  Rod Stanley: Um
  Christopher Mayfield: all their positioning in the circuit.
  Rod Stanley: Are they all included, like mandatorily, or r are these different options?
  Christopher Mayfield: Uh, these, they're all different options, they're all separate, apart from the chip,
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple, a regular, advanced. We can go into that later. Um, all the other things are individual components that we'd have to get in separately, and work out the most, like, effective um circuit, including all the wires and everything like that. And the L_E_D_ of course, that's a light emitting diode. So, we could, so we've got flex flexibility with colours and things,
  Rod Stanley: Mm.
  Christopher Mayfield: with that as well. Okay, there are lots of different possibilities for the energy source. We could use a basic battery, but that brings with it, like they need to be recharged and the bulk, the size of it as well. And they're not so great to dispose of, environmentally. There's a hand-powered dynamo which is a sort of thing that was used for torches fifty years ago. A bit out of date. Kinetic energy is something
  Rod Stanley: Um
  Christopher Mayfield: that's been recently developed.
  Rod Stanley: What is a hand-powered dynamo?
  Christopher Mayfield: Um, where you manually charge up the power. Like you
  Rod Stanley: Just
  Christopher Mayfield: wind
  Rod Stanley: every,
  Christopher Mayfield: up
  Rod Stanley: every
  Christopher Mayfield: something.
  Rod Stanley: once in a while?
  Christopher Mayfield: Sorry?
  Rod Stanley: Just every once in a while
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: or constantly?
  Christopher Mayfield: Every once in a while I think. But
  Rod Stanley: Alright.
  Christopher Mayfield: it's
  Rod Stanley: It'd be kind of strange to always be
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: cranking
  Christopher Mayfield: It would be like
  Rod Stanley: it
  Christopher Mayfield: going
  Rod Stanley: I think.
  Christopher Mayfield: a step back
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: in time. I don't think it would really be with kind of cutting edge technology.
  Rod Stanley: No.
  Christopher Mayfield: Whereas kinetic energy is a new idea that's being used by some watches and other devices, where you just shake the device and it gives it power. I mean, the kinetic energy is transformed into power to make the circuit work. Um, or there's solar power, which we've been considering inside a building, which is where it's gonna be used, might not be quite so
  Rod Stanley: Right.
  Christopher Mayfield: useful. But, good to look into, renewable energy, always the way. Um, lots of considerations for the case, like what sort of shape it would be, curved or flat. That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics. Like how it's comfortable and s sits in the hand. We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up. Or too small. Or too slidy. I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front and the back, 'cause it had so many buttons on, and the shape was so symmetrical that I'd be pressing like
  Brandon Bell: Mm.
  Christopher Mayfield: a volume button instead of the on button. Because you can't really see which way round it is.
  Rod Stanley: Right.
  Christopher Mayfield: Um, we also can choose what materials um, the we could use metal, we could use rubber which might be more um ideal for the anti-R_S_I_. It's like the same sort of rubber that's used in stress balls and
  Rod Stanley: Mm-hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: things like that, so it's very like soft, not so stressful on your hands. Wood. Um, again, stepping back in time again there. I don't think that's quite up to date with what we're looking for here.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Um, titanium is not gonna be possible, even though it just it beyond our budget really. But, would've been maybe for future projects. Um right our choice for buttons as well. We've developed some we've got some good advances in technology, with our research team have found some uh new multiple um option scroll buttons. I think that was brought up for, um, they're basically quite a flexible design, modern, you don't have to use individual buttons. You can just slide up and down. I'm sure we're all quite familiar with those on
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Mm-hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: mobiles or computer laptop pads.
  Rod Stanley: Um one thing with the scroll buttons though. It, it we would have to have an L_C_D_ um
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah. That's true.
  Rod Stanley: display, and
  Christopher Mayfield: And that would
  Rod Stanley: the
  Christopher Mayfield: lead to
  Rod Stanley: glow
  Christopher Mayfield: an advanced
  Rod Stanley: in the dark thing
  Christopher Mayfield: yeah. If
  Rod Stanley: might
  Christopher Mayfield: we have
  Rod Stanley: be difficult.
  Christopher Mayfield: yeah. We're going on to that later with the advanc with the L_C_D_ that means we'd need a really advanced chip.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: And it's
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: unlikely that that's gonna be in our budget. Um, also we've got the integrated pushbutton, which is what we're most familiar with. It's the most straightforward. But you can in like incorporate that with a scroll button as well. Got decisions to make there. this is what I was just saying before. Linked in the different depends on what type of buttons we have and the inputs. Um simple would go with the pushbutton. Um, regular you could link with the scroll button. And the advanced we'd have to go with a L_C_D_ s
  Rod Stanley: Right.
  Christopher Mayfield: display. My personal preferences? I think we could go for the kinetic energy source. I don't, I think that's quite um an advanced kind of technology. It's not been seen before, so it could be quite a, a novelty factor, attractive as well. And also energy saving 'cause you're producing the energy, you don't need an external sort of battery supply or solar panels. You just give it a shake.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Sounds brilliant to Brandon Bell. Rubber
  Rod Stanley: Uh.
  Christopher Mayfield: casing I thing would probably the best, if we're going for the anti-R_S_I_ and like more choice with um aesthetics. Like it could be pretty much any colour we want. Um, and gives you, yeah, more flexibility there. And probably the regular chip as opposed to the simple, then we could possibly have the scroll and the push, but no L_C_D_, 'cause we probably can't afford that one.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. Um, one concern with the rubber casing
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
  Rod Stanley: is that it would be rubber encapsulating all of these chips and diodes and delicate technology as like as the exterior. This is the one thing that's protecting its innards.
  Christopher Mayfield: I think that would, uh there would be an in sort of more internal casing. And the rubber would just be the, what's in contact with the human.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Another thing is it might be more difficult if it's a rubber exterior talking about putting on interchangeable plates.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Rod Stanley: Um, is it I don't see how a like a rubber plate going on top it would stay there. Like if it was sort of like a clip-on plastic plate. It would work that way.
  Christopher Mayfield: Maybe
  Raul Martin: W
  Christopher Mayfield: if the, um, if it was just kind of a, more of a rubber coating which was on to a case. So, it was kind of, the whole thing would be removable.
  Raul Martin: Like plastic with rubber, kind
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: of on top
  Christopher Mayfield: Like
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: I can't think of what.
  Raul Martin: Well, there's, there is a certain phone that has like a rubber casing,
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: b like a
  Christopher Mayfield: Or
  Raul Martin: Nokia
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: like an you
  Raul Martin: it is.
  Christopher Mayfield: can get
  Raul Martin: It's
  Christopher Mayfield: sort of outer casing for
  Raul Martin: yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: iPods and something, that's just
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Like the
  Christopher Mayfield: it's
  Brandon Bell: skin?
  Christopher Mayfield: protective as
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: well. It, it stops it, I mean, it would reduce the impact if it was dropped or something,
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: as well, 'cause it wouldn't damage itself so easily.
  Rod Stanley: Alright.
  Christopher Mayfield: I think
  Rod Stanley: So maybe
  Christopher Mayfield: i maybe
  Rod Stanley: the
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Christopher Mayfield: a mixture of both there,
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: maybe. Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: So the actual remote would be hard plastic and
  Christopher Mayfield: And
  Brandon Bell: the
  Christopher Mayfield: then
  Brandon Bell: casings
  Christopher Mayfield: yeah.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: rubber.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Okay. And the buttons
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: obviously are rubber.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. That sounds good. I, um, is it possible to put designs onto this type of rubber?
  Christopher Mayfield: As far as I know. It should be.
  Rod Stanley: Okay, we'll just say yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yes, just why
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah,
  Rod Stanley: not.
  Christopher Mayfield: yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Alright. I like the kinetic energy source idea.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah. I
  Rod Stanley: Um,
  Christopher Mayfield: thought that was
  Rod Stanley: I don't know when people will, um, be moving a remote around a lot.
  Raul Martin: Yeah,
  Rod Stanley: But
  Raul Martin: tha
  Rod Stanley: I think
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Rod Stanley: that it's worth it, kinetety, kinetic um energy source. It could
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: make an we could have any kind of style. It wouldn't be as heavy or bulky, and
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. Just for environmental reasons.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: I guess it's a bit scary 'cause it hasn't been done before.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: So it seems we'd have to do more research on it. Or I dunno
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: if you could have a battery pack.
  Christopher Mayfield: Like as a
  Raul Martin: Backup.
  Christopher Mayfield: backup
  Brandon Bell: Yeah
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: for
  Brandon Bell: so there's
  Christopher Mayfield: something.
  Brandon Bell: there is a one because most remotes use two batteries
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: I believe.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: So, if it was running off of one battery as
  Raul Martin: That
  Brandon Bell: a
  Raul Martin: would be good yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah. Some alternative just in case
  Brandon Bell: Right.
  Christopher Mayfield: something went wrong.
  Raul Martin: Maybe we could you were saying about um solar power ma maybe not working indoors, but a lot of calculators,
  Christopher Mayfield: That's true.
  Raul Martin: yeah,
  Christopher Mayfield: I just thought
  Raul Martin: have
  Christopher Mayfield: of that.
  Raul Martin: solar power.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: So maybe could
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: be incorporated
  Christopher Mayfield: May
  Raul Martin: as
  Christopher Mayfield: maybe that could be the backup.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Instead
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: of a battery.
  Brandon Bell: Although
  Christopher Mayfield: Like solar
  Brandon Bell: it needs
  Christopher Mayfield: backup.
  Brandon Bell: some light, doesn't it?
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: Do,
  Christopher Mayfield: I suppose
  Rod Stanley: Yeah,
  Brandon Bell: So,
  Raul Martin: do
  Rod Stanley: you
  Raul Martin: those
  Christopher Mayfield: s
  Rod Stanley: can
  Raul Martin: calculators
  Christopher Mayfield: but
  Rod Stanley: watch
  Christopher Mayfield: some
  Rod Stanley: a T_V_
  Brandon Bell: if
  Rod Stanley: in the dark
  Brandon Bell: we're doing
  Rod Stanley: then.
  Raul Martin: yeah.
  Brandon Bell: yeah. If we're
  Christopher Mayfield: But
  Raul Martin: I
  Christopher Mayfield: thing
  Raul Martin: don't
  Christopher Mayfield: is, it's
  Raul Martin: know how
  Christopher Mayfield: not
  Raul Martin: it
  Christopher Mayfield: you don't
  Raul Martin: works.
  Christopher Mayfield: need the solar all the time. It can be stored. It can be like
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: you can
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: have the solar energy and then it can store that energy and use it. It just needs to be in light for a certain
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: amount of time per day. Like a few
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: hours a day.
  Rod Stanley: I think that might be a little impractical though.
  Brandon Bell: Yeah. I think sometimes it's just shoved under, under a cushion, and
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: That's true. It
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: could
  Brandon Bell: yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: easily
  Rod Stanley: Like people don't wanna have to worry about that.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: I suppose it would be really annoying if you get to think, oh no, I forgot to charge my remote today. Like
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: if the kinetic thing, I think what's
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: best about
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: that is that it's instant energy. You don't have to, you know, you can shake it a few times, or whatever.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: And
  Rod Stanley: Or just like
  Christopher Mayfield: it
  Rod Stanley: pick
  Christopher Mayfield: works.
  Rod Stanley: it up when you're gonna
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: Yeah,
  Rod Stanley: use
  Raul Martin: I
  Rod Stanley: it.
  Raul Martin: suppose.
  Christopher Mayfield: Instead of you don't have to like make sure it's in the right place to charge and.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Alright. Cool.
  Christopher Mayfield: K okay.
  Rod Stanley: 'S that the end of your presentation.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Alright. Thank you.
  Christopher Mayfield: There we go.
  Raul Martin: Thanks.
  Raul Martin: Oh.
  Raul Martin: It's not on my screen. Why?
  Christopher Mayfield: it wasn't on mine either. I don't know why. I think,
  Raul Martin: You
  Christopher Mayfield: I just,
  Raul Martin: don't know
  Christopher Mayfield: I
  Raul Martin: why?
  Christopher Mayfield: just used the mouse on there.
  Raul Martin: Oh okay. Is it that one?
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. That's
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: um
  Raul Martin: Um, I'm just gonna go through the interface concept with yous now. Uh, first of all I'll explain what a user interface is. It's the aspects of a computer system which can be seen or otherwise perceived, for example, heard or felt maybe, or by the human user. And it's also the commands that the user uses to control its operation and to input data. Um, there are two types of user interfaces. There's the graphical user interface, which emphasises the use of pictures for output and a pointing device, for example a mouse for input control. So that's sort of like the scroll thing we were talking about.
  Rod Stanley: Oh. Okay.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: I'm not really sure about the pictures that maybe that's on an L_C_D_ screen.
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm.
  Raul Martin: Or maybe it's the the buttons or pictures or something.
  Rod Stanley: Hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: Do you think
  Christopher Mayfield: So
  Raul Martin: it's
  Christopher Mayfield: I suppose sometime
  Rod Stanley: Yeah, 'cause
  Christopher Mayfield: after you.
  Rod Stanley: I'm sorry? Um, because command interface requires you to type textual commands and input at a keyboard, so the numbers are sort of like a keyboard.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: You're pressing the numbers
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: for,
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm.
  Rod Stanley: um,
  Raul Martin: So you must,
  Rod Stanley: for what you want.
  Raul Martin: for the graphical user you must need some kind of presentation for the graphics. Like an
  Christopher Mayfield: I
  Raul Martin: L_C_D_
  Christopher Mayfield: s I
  Raul Martin: screen.
  Christopher Mayfield: suppose where um mm on some buttons you would have like the power would be s some kind of symbol.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: And if you wanted to go onto teletext or, I know we're not having that, but
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: I mean a similar thing, you, they have there's a like little picture with a screen with lines across it, which
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: I suppose it's that sort of thing like the,
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: the symbol on the button. But if we're having a simplified display anyway, w that, we
  Rod Stanley: Yeah,
  Christopher Mayfield: probably
  Rod Stanley: we'll be
  Christopher Mayfield: won't
  Rod Stanley: doing
  Christopher Mayfield: have to focus so much on that. It'll be more the on the numbers
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: and the
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: volume.
  Rod Stanley: It'd be more a command interface,
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: and
  Christopher Mayfield: I suppose
  Rod Stanley: then
  Christopher Mayfield: we need to think of symbols for like the volume, display, and
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: stuff like that.
  Brandon Bell: So it's just draf graphical for the pointing aspect? The infrared
  Christopher Mayfield: I
  Brandon Bell: is like, that's considered a
  Rod Stanley: Hmm?
  Raul Martin: No I think it's to do with the actual symbols that are on the, that's on the buttons of the remote control, and
  Brandon Bell: Okay. So when it says
  Raul Martin: per
  Brandon Bell: pointing
  Christopher Mayfield: For inp
  Brandon Bell: device that doesn't include
  Raul Martin: Well it could be a wee scroller thing, and something could come up on the screen.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. I think they're talking about L_C_D_ type things.
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm.
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: But um I think we're gonna go with the command interface anyway, to make
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: it more simplistic.
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Raul Martin: But the, we could incorporate some of the graphical user um points, as in just to make it m um nicer to look at maybe.
  Rod Stanley: What do you mean?
  Raul Martin: Like I can't think of an example, but Sort of like little pictures rather than
  Rod Stanley: Oh yeah, like
  Raul Martin: Like
  Rod Stanley: how
  Raul Martin: a little
  Rod Stanley: the buttons
  Raul Martin: sound. Instead of saying volume, like a little speaker or something.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah,
  Raul Martin: Yeah,
  Brandon Bell: Mm.
  Rod Stanley: as
  Raul Martin: something
  Rod Stanley: a button though.
  Raul Martin: y
  Rod Stanley: So, it's a keyboard in the shape of it,
  Raul Martin: Yeah
  Rod Stanley: right?
  Raul Martin: m perha yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Okay.
  Raul Martin: Yeah. Maybe.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. I like that idea.
  Raul Martin: Um, the co uh we've decided that the command interface would be the most useful for a remote control. As it would be less complicated, and the controls would be more user-friendly. Um, the remote control would be cheaper to design, so that we'd have more money in the budget to, um, target the design area of the interface. You know, make it more trendy and original. We'll have more money if we keep it simple.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. I'm sure i like kinetic energy would probably dip into the budget.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: A bit more too,
  Raul Martin: Seeing
  Rod Stanley: yeah.
  Raul Martin: as it's quite a new technology. Um We, we also have to keep in mind when we're designing our, um, more user-friendly remote control, that a lot of interfaces consist of a clutter of buttons, that, um, that their functions, colours and forms aren't always helpful.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah. That's true.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: That's in like the buttons with all the different like colours for different choices and things.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: It can be a bit, yeah, overwhelming.
  Raul Martin: And that all interfaces are different. So, um, that doesn't improve the use of the produ product, so we need to come up with something that's easy to understand. And maybe learn from the mistakes of other interfaces that can be too complicated for people to use.
  Rod Stanley: Mm-hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yep.
  Raul Martin: Does anyone have any questions?
  Rod Stanley: Do you think that we should keep all the buttons to one same colour, just to keep it, give it a simplistic look.
  Raul Martin: Mm.
  Brandon Bell: I think if we go with the um design plate thing, we'll have to. Just because of colour clashing, and
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: if we
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: wanted to, so and, and we might, I mean, depending on what comes out of the design, we might have to stick to just black buttons.
  Raul Martin: But um
  Rod Stanley: But what about the lighting up effect?
  Brandon Bell: You mean different colours for the lighting or
  Rod Stanley: Um, well, um, I thought we had um decided that we would if you touched one of the buttons they'd all light up. And
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Rod Stanley: so if they were black, it wouldn't be possible for them to light up.
  Brandon Bell: Oh I see what you're saying. Well y
  Rod Stanley: If they were white they would glow, probably. If they were made out of rubber.
  Brandon Bell: Oh so you're picturing the light is coming from the back. I kinda pictured it as kind of coming from the sides and lighting it up frontwards.
  Christopher Mayfield: Oh.
  Brandon Bell: But,
  Rod Stanley: Oh. Where
  Brandon Bell: but
  Rod Stanley: would the
  Brandon Bell: I guess,
  Rod Stanley: light
  Brandon Bell: you
  Rod Stanley: come
  Brandon Bell: mean from
  Rod Stanley: from?
  Brandon Bell: the back. Okay.
  Christopher Mayfield: I'd assume, like, an internal light,
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: that comes through. So there would have to, have to be some parts maybe transparent around
  Brandon Bell: Right.
  Christopher Mayfield: the buttons,
  Rod Stanley: Yeah,
  Christopher Mayfield: or something.
  Rod Stanley: and well rubber is a more translucent
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah, yeah.
  Rod Stanley: product too, so
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: It should be able
  Rod Stanley: we
  Christopher Mayfield: to
  Rod Stanley: have that taken care of.
  Christopher Mayfield: mm-hmm.
  Raul Martin: In the phone that I was thinking of as well, when you change the um covers of it, the, the little buttons that actually, you know, that contro
  Christopher Mayfield: Li yeah.
  Raul Martin: control stuff, are behind the rubber. So you can change the buttons when you're changing the faces. Do
  Brandon Bell: Oh.
  Raul Martin: you know what I mean?
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Oh.
  Raul Martin: 'Cause
  Brandon Bell: They,
  Raul Martin: it's
  Brandon Bell: they
  Raul Martin: just
  Brandon Bell: insert
  Raul Martin: the wee control,
  Brandon Bell: over.
  Raul Martin: yeah,
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Raul Martin: thing that's behind it. So
  Rod Stanley: Mm.
  Raul Martin: I mean, we don't have to decide on one colour. Each face could have its own colour of buttons maybe?
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
  Rod Stanley: Well, if they're raised up buttons.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: So that you can feel them. We were talking about it being more um, a
  Brandon Bell: T
  Rod Stanley: lot more tangible. Um, it might be more difficult to do.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: If they're, if they're sticking up. If it's flat then, like o like on a cellphone or a mobile phone, it's like all very flat, and you just have to sort of press down on these tiny little buttons, but
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: I think it would be possible. I don't think it would make that much difference. I mean, the uh the dimensions of it. 'Cause if it's just like constructed in the same way as like the front cover of a mobile phone. You can like take off the hard cover and then there's the like say the buttons. And then you get to the circuit. I don't think it would matter that the buttons were bigger through the, the top casing. I'm sure you could f work it out to fit in the casing, without
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: causing too much difficulty. I'm sure
  Rod Stanley: Okay.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: that'd be fine.
  Rod Stanley: Alright. If it's do-able we can do. Yeah, sounds good to Brandon Bell.
  Raul Martin: So that's everything, then?
  Christopher Mayfield: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Alright, thank you.
  Brandon Bell: Okay is that my turn then?
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Alright. I have a shorter report for you today. Um, it took a while to get this, uh Uh.
  Christopher Mayfield: You're not plugged in yet.
  Brandon Bell: Oh. That's a very good point.
  Brandon Bell: Okay, so um, this report is about uh trend-watching. Um, basically so we can live up to our, our uh purpose of having a very fashionable remote control. Sorry. There we go. Um So, just so you know, my method was mainly web web-based research this time around. I also spoke with fashion experts in Milan, New York and Paris. And I looked at the design reports from previous years, here at Real Remote. Um, just so c we can work off of them, see how fashions have changed. Um, so I'll list the three most important aspects that I've come across. Um, and they, they're each more important than the one that comes after it. Uh, the first one is that there should be a fancy look-and-feel, instead of the current functional look-and-feel. Um, this should be our priority, as we've been saying. The second most important aspect is that a remote sh that the remote control should be technologically innovative. So, I think we've done a lot of talking about that, just with lighting and the buttons and the face-plates. Um, so it looks like we'll be able to keep on track with that. And the third most important aspect is that the remote control should be easy to use. So, pretty basic there. And the recent fashion update, uh, according to fashion-watchers in Paris and Milan, is that fruit and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes, shoes and furniture. Um, also, in contra uh in contrast to last year, the feel of the material is expected to be spongy. Again, we've already discussed that with rubber versus hard plastic buttons. Um So, my personal preferences here, um of course, as we, we've already talked about the personal face-plates in this meeting, and I'd like to stick to that. The fruits and vegetable themes, I don't know if that's going to work for us. It sounds something that you'd use on kitchenware. I don't
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm.
  Brandon Bell: know if we wanna do it on remotes. It could be one of the options. Maybe
  Rod Stanley: Mm-hmm.
  Brandon Bell: for the television that people have in their kitchen. Um, the temporary light-up idea, sounds like we're gonna stick to that. And then, uh, tying in a trendy look with user-friendliness.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. Yeah, it's the fruits and vegetables is the only area that I find rather jarring.
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Rod Stanley: Everything
  Christopher Mayfield: It
  Rod Stanley: else
  Christopher Mayfield: is
  Rod Stanley: we
  Christopher Mayfield: strange.
  Rod Stanley: can really, we can really um, do, according to our plans already, given the market. But fruits and vegetables seems a very strange
  Brandon Bell: It's,
  Rod Stanley: idea
  Brandon Bell: it's
  Rod Stanley: for
  Brandon Bell: a little
  Rod Stanley: a remote
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: control.
  Christopher Mayfield: Well
  Brandon Bell: but it, it's everywhere. So maybe
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: we I've seen a lot of purses with olives on them, you know. But
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: I I think, I think if we stick to T_V_ based, you know, maybe T_V_ shows, or
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Or
  Rod Stanley: But they
  Brandon Bell: colour
  Rod Stanley: still
  Brandon Bell: schemes.
  Rod Stanley: need to
  Christopher Mayfield: We
  Rod Stanley: um fit into people's decor though.
  Brandon Bell: Right.
  Christopher Mayfield: I think we possibly could take a more abstract design. Like look at the basic shapes of different fruits and vegetables. And then just really like strip it down to like really basic shapes. I mean we don't have to make something in the shape of a strawberry, but it could have the curves of a strawberry,
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: or something.
  Brandon Bell: The
  Raul Martin: Yeah,
  Christopher Mayfield: Or a strawberry seed
  Raul Martin: yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: or
  Brandon Bell: The
  Christopher Mayfield: a leaf.
  Brandon Bell: essence of strawberry.
  Christopher Mayfield: Or just
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: like
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: you know really make it a quite abstract, if that's fits in more with what we're doing. Instead
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: of fruits and vegetables, just
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: if you look at it straightforward, it's a bit yeah. It doesn't s quite fit in with the trendy well, obviously it does, if that's the current
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: theme. But may maybe we could go more directly, I don't know.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: But initially, I dunno. I think if we just sort of tone it down a bit.
  Rod Stanley: Tone
  Brandon Bell: I guess,
  Rod Stanley: it down.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah
  Rod Stanley: Yeah,
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: yeah.
  Rod Stanley: like more
  Christopher Mayfield: and
  Rod Stanley: like
  Christopher Mayfield: like not,
  Rod Stanley: photos
  Christopher Mayfield: not
  Rod Stanley: of fruit,
  Christopher Mayfield: yeah.
  Rod Stanley: on,
  Raul Martin: Or
  Rod Stanley: on our product.
  Raul Martin: banana-shaped.
  Brandon Bell: One thing I was thinking though is I dunno if you all remember from our kickoff meeting, we talked about our favourite animals.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: So maybe there could be animal-based, you know. Because a lot of people have a house cat. Or, or a dog.
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm.
  Brandon Bell: Um, that might be getting, you know, too specific, and we should see what the success of the first face-plates are. But it's something to keep in mind.
  Rod Stanley: Mm-hmm.
  Brandon Bell: And, did you have any questions? Pretty straightforward?
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah um
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Alright, given that information, we need to start making some more specific decisions. So I'll need to um hook up the PowerPoint again.
  Brandon Bell: There you go.
  Brandon Bell: Have you guys been saving your PowerPoint presentations to the
  Christopher Mayfield: I didn't for the first one.
  Brandon Bell: okay.
  Christopher Mayfield: But I have now.
  Rod Stanley: But it's still around right?
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Okay.
  Christopher Mayfield: Uh,
  Raul Martin: Where
  Christopher Mayfield: hopefully.
  Raul Martin: do you have to save it to?
  Christopher Mayfield: Project documents I think.
  Raul Martin: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Okay. I'm just trying to make this pop up now.
  Rod Stanley: Alright. Here we go. Okay so we have to uh decide now exactly what we are going to do. So
  Christopher Mayfield: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: energy, we oh.
  Christopher Mayfield: 'Kay.
  Rod Stanley: Oh no I can't write it in when it's in this setting. Does anyone know how to take it out of Um,
  Raul Martin: Just
  Brandon Bell: The PowerPoint?
  Raul Martin: escape
  Rod Stanley: yeah.
  Raul Martin: I think.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. Okay. Um, so back to decisions. Energy, we've decided on kinetic,
  Christopher Mayfield: Kinetic
  Rod Stanley: right?
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Okay, so that's good.
  Christopher Mayfield: Are we going to have a backup?
  Rod Stanley: Hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: Or do we just
  Rod Stanley: But would a backup really be necessary? I mean will people just use the battery if there's no, if there's,
  Christopher Mayfield: I think maybe
  Rod Stanley: if there is backup.
  Christopher Mayfield: we could just go for the kinetic energy, and be bold and innovative, and
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: hope this works, and well hope that it works.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: I think yeah.
  Rod Stanley: There's
  Christopher Mayfield: I think
  Rod Stanley: like no reason why it wouldn't work,
  Christopher Mayfield: no.
  Rod Stanley: right?
  Brandon Bell: So
  Christopher Mayfield: I, I think we should just like take uh advantage of like using this to its full potential.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. It
  Christopher Mayfield: Go
  Rod Stanley: could even
  Christopher Mayfield: for
  Rod Stanley: be
  Christopher Mayfield: it.
  Rod Stanley: one of our selling points.
  Christopher Mayfield: It could
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: be fully
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: kinetic energy.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Environmentally conscious
  Christopher Mayfield: Is
  Rod Stanley: or something.
  Brandon Bell: So
  Christopher Mayfield: everyone
  Brandon Bell: if it's
  Christopher Mayfield: happy
  Brandon Bell: not working
  Christopher Mayfield: with that?
  Brandon Bell: they just have to shake it a bit and that revitalises
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: it?
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Raul Martin: Hope so.
  Rod Stanley: Alright, the next um decision is chip on print. I don't exactly know what that means.
  Christopher Mayfield: Um, it was whether we went for the simple, the regular, or the advanced chip. And that linked in with what buttons we would gonna have, so
  Rod Stanley: Right, and we were going for more simplistic style, right?
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah, it
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: was so that was without the L_C_D_. So that means we're not
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: doing the advanced. So it depends on whether we wanted the scroll buttons or just the push buttons.
  Rod Stanley: I think we decided on the pushbuttons, right?
  Raul Martin: Yeah. I
  Christopher Mayfield: Uh,
  Raul Martin: don
  Christopher Mayfield: so that's
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Raul Martin: yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: the simple.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. Would we need a more advanced one for uh the lighting, the interior lighting system?
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah possibly. So, it's
  Rod Stanley: Yeah?
  Christopher Mayfield: probably gonna be the regular chip that we're going to need. So it's a
  Rod Stanley: Okay.
  Christopher Mayfield: medium. So regular
  Rod Stanley: That's called
  Christopher Mayfield: chip.
  Rod Stanley: medium, or regular?
  Christopher Mayfield: Regular sorry.
  Rod Stanley: 'Kay.
  Christopher Mayfield: Regular chip.
  Brandon Bell: Oh, is regular not simple?
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Lighting. Yeah
  Raul Martin: It's for
  Christopher Mayfield: if
  Raul Martin: the lighting,
  Christopher Mayfield: we
  Raul Martin: yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: because of the lighting that we've decided to put
  Brandon Bell: Right
  Christopher Mayfield: in as
  Brandon Bell: right
  Christopher Mayfield: well.
  Brandon Bell: right.
  Rod Stanley: Okay, and cases. Um,
  Christopher Mayfield: So
  Rod Stanley: does
  Christopher Mayfield: th
  Rod Stanley: this, is this dependent on shape, or what it's made of, or what?
  Christopher Mayfield: I think this is just like gonna be the a very outer case, which we will decide on rubber.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah. Well, I guess plastic and
  Christopher Mayfield: Rubber.
  Rod Stanley: coated
  Raul Martin: Yeah
  Rod Stanley: in rubber.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Plastic
  Christopher Mayfield: Plastic
  Raul Martin: plastic
  Christopher Mayfield: rubber
  Raul Martin: coat.
  Christopher Mayfield: coat.
  Rod Stanley: with rubber coating and interchangeable
  Christopher Mayfield: Interchangeable,
  Rod Stanley: um
  Christopher Mayfield: yeah. Still going for that.
  Rod Stanley: yeah, interchangeable
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: plates. Okay. User interface concept. This is your time to shine.
  Raul Martin: We decided on the component. I, I I'm sorry, I've lost my um PowerPoint
  Christopher Mayfield: Your screen?
  Raul Martin: thing, so I can't remember what it's
  Brandon Bell: Think
  Raul Martin: ca
  Brandon Bell: it was
  Raul Martin: it's
  Brandon Bell: called
  Raul Martin: the
  Brandon Bell: command
  Raul Martin: component
  Brandon Bell: interface.
  Christopher Mayfield: Was it
  Rod Stanley: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Command interface,
  Raul Martin: The command
  Rod Stanley: Command
  Raul Martin: inter
  Rod Stanley: interface.
  Christopher Mayfield: Ouch.
  Raul Martin: The command line interface yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Did you say command line?
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Okay. Line interface. Alright, and supplements. What's that all about?
  Raul Martin: Um, I think that is well we haven't really made any decisions about what we're gonna do about the cluster of button functions, colours and forms, in the in consistent use Like. what what are ideas to combat these problems?
  Rod Stanley: Um
  Raul Martin: You know how um different interfaces are very different, and can be confusing because because of their difference, and because of
  Rod Stanley: Mm-hmm.
  Raul Martin: the different clusters of buttons that they have. We haven't really decided what to do about that.
  Rod Stanley: Um, what are our choices here?
  Raul Martin: Well it's just um w where where shall we locate the buttons. What kind of functions wi shall we have?
  Rod Stanley: You mean like we'll have the numbers of the channels, and we'll have
  Christopher Mayfield: The power.
  Rod Stanley: the channel-changer, and volume,
  Christopher Mayfield: Volume.
  Rod Stanley: and power?
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Raul Martin: So pretty
  Rod Stanley: Um
  Raul Martin: just just the basic
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: button
  Rod Stanley: Like I
  Raul Martin: functions.
  Rod Stanley: don't know if we should go into like adjusting light levels, things like that, because different televisions will have
  Christopher Mayfield: May yeah. Tone, contrast,
  Rod Stanley: Um,
  Christopher Mayfield: and things.
  Rod Stanley: yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: That's a bit
  Brandon Bell: That was on, um one of my presentations. About how often it was used. Do you remember that?
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah, it
  Rod Stanley: Yep.
  Christopher Mayfield: was minima well,
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: it wasn't
  Rod Stanley: Yeah,
  Christopher Mayfield: the
  Rod Stanley: it was
  Christopher Mayfield: l
  Rod Stanley: hardly ever used
  Brandon Bell: I w
  Rod Stanley: really.
  Brandon Bell: Should I bring it up?
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah. That
  Rod Stanley: And
  Christopher Mayfield: would
  Rod Stanley: most televisions
  Christopher Mayfield: be good.
  Rod Stanley: will come with a remote.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah, and surely that would be like quite specific to
  Raul Martin: Yeah,
  Christopher Mayfield: the
  Raul Martin: each
  Christopher Mayfield: individual
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: television.
  Christopher Mayfield: television, so
  Rod Stanley: 'Kay, well we know we want numbers.
  Brandon Bell: The ch t Screen settings was used um zero point five times an hour. So tw twice every once every two hours. Um, and it was considered a one point five relevance, on a scale of ten. That's brightness, colour, tone,
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm.
  Brandon Bell: all that.
  Raul Martin: You don't change
  Christopher Mayfield: I think most
  Raul Martin: that
  Christopher Mayfield: of that comes
  Raul Martin: often,
  Christopher Mayfield: like on the
  Raul Martin: yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: i individual television set itself, doesn't it? I'm sure it has
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah, it
  Christopher Mayfield: its
  Rod Stanley: does.
  Christopher Mayfield: own buttons, so you don't necessarily need to have it on remote.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah, and
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: different televisions. Like we, I don't know if we can make a remote that would be universal to all the different kinds
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: of
  Christopher Mayfield: So
  Rod Stanley: changes
  Christopher Mayfield: we're just going
  Rod Stanley: like that.
  Christopher Mayfield: for power, channels,
  Rod Stanley: Volume.
  Christopher Mayfield: volume,
  Brandon Bell: The other one was audio settings. Mono, stereo, pitch. I mean I sometimes use that. Some T_V_s will have the option of like living room style, movie style,
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: um and that, they say that's used zero point eight times an hour, which is actually somewhat high. Like
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm.
  Brandon Bell: almost once an hour.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Um, relevance of two.
  Rod Stanley: Oh. We have five minutes to finish our meeting. Crap. Okay, um, let's do this fast. Um
  Brandon Bell: Well that didn't some up on mine.
  Rod Stanley: Should we have audio? It only comes up on mine usually.
  Raul Martin: It w it
  Brandon Bell: Oh.
  Raul Martin: would seem silly if we'd having anything else, just have an audio button though. Do you know?
  Rod Stanley: Yeah, I don't, I it's, it's a problem with the international uh appeal, I think. Um, if we have audio because we don't know how other televisions work.
  Raul Martin: But
  Rod Stanley: But we
  Raul Martin: we
  Rod Stanley: know that everyone has this and it's the same.
  Brandon Bell: Yeah I guess
  Christopher Mayfield: I've
  Brandon Bell: that it affects the marketing, 'cause it, mm it is a good sales ploy to say, aren't you annoyed with remote controls that have all these buttons.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: This one has channel, volume
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah, that's it.
  Brandon Bell: and your
  Raul Martin: That
  Brandon Bell: channe
  Christopher Mayfield: We
  Raul Martin: could
  Christopher Mayfield: can
  Raul Martin: be
  Christopher Mayfield: just
  Brandon Bell: and
  Raul Martin: a
  Christopher Mayfield: go
  Brandon Bell: your
  Raul Martin: sales
  Brandon Bell: power.
  Christopher Mayfield: for,
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: make
  Raul Martin: pitch.
  Christopher Mayfield: it a
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: selling point that it is just
  Raul Martin: Simple
  Christopher Mayfield: the basic.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: and
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah uh I
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Alright.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: brilliant.
  Rod Stanley: Good. And, okay, in closing, 'cause we only have five minutes. We'll be meeting again in thirty minutes. Um, you'll be working, Poppy will be working on the look-and-feel design. Wait a minute. Is that right?
  Christopher Mayfield: Mm-hmm.
  Rod Stanley: Yep, and um the user interface design, so this is where the trendy stuff comes in. And you'll be evaluating the product. Um, Poppy and Tara will have to work together, using modelling clay. And, um, your personal coach will give you the rest of the information of what needs to happen.
  Christopher Mayfield: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Alright. So, anyone else have something to say?
  Christopher Mayfield: Um, I just have one question about
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: the whole fruit and vegetable aspect.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Christopher Mayfield: Are we seeing as that was the most popular thing that came up out of your market research, I thi I think we should keep to that rather than moving to animals or something, because
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: even if that may not seem obvious to us, if that's what the surveys brought out, I think that we should probably go along with that.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Um, so I suppose that'll come out in our dev design development. But you're happy to go ahead with the fruit and
  Brandon Bell: Now
  Christopher Mayfield: veg?
  Brandon Bell: do you guys need want an idea of how many uh are you gonna come up with casing ideas? Like f
  Christopher Mayfield: Y
  Brandon Bell: five different
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: What I
  Rod Stanley: five.
  Raul Martin: What I was thinking what do yous think of this? Um, having the numbers kind of like, not a bunch of grapes, but you know like purple and kind of in a triangle.
  Brandon Bell: Mm-hmm.
  Raul Martin: Like grapes.
  Brandon Bell: Yeah you
  Raul Martin: Like
  Brandon Bell: can have
  Raul Martin: that's
  Brandon Bell: some fun
  Raul Martin: kind
  Brandon Bell: with
  Raul Martin: of
  Brandon Bell: the buttons, it's
  Raul Martin: fruity
  Brandon Bell: true.
  Rod Stanley: Mm-hmm.
  Raul Martin: or something. That's
  Brandon Bell: Yeah.
  Raul Martin: just
  Christopher Mayfield: We can have a look at those ideas, yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: I guess what you i ideally you'd kind of think of age markets as well. So it's
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: a something that will, you know, appeal to the fifteen to twenty five year olds. Something that your granny would want on her remote control. Um,
  Christopher Mayfield: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Brandon Bell: and international tastes as well, so
  Christopher Mayfield: Tricky.
  Brandon Bell: Not easy.
  Christopher Mayfield: A lot
  Rod Stanley: Yeah.
  Christopher Mayfield: of things to consider.
  Raul Martin: Yeah.
  Rod Stanley: Lots
  Christopher Mayfield: Hm.
  Rod Stanley: of yeah. Alright.
  Christopher Mayfield: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: 'Kay we'll stick to the fruit and veggie theme then. Alright. And, um, we'll reconvene in thirty minutes.
  Christopher Mayfield: Okay.
  Raul Martin: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: 'Kay.
  Brandon Bell: Okay.
  Rod Stanley: Bye.
  Christopher Mayfield: Thank you.
  Rod Stanley: I'll see you later. Oh, what did I just do. Okay.
Updated Content: Rod Stanley opens this conceptual design meeting and gives them the agenda. Christopher Mayfield presents first and talks about the components of a remote, energy source options, and materials for the remote, case, and buttons. The interface specialist presents the interface concept by explaining the difference between graphical and command interface. They decide the command interface is most useful for a remote because it is simpler and more user-friendly. The group discusses aspects of the user interface including the lighting up effect and material of the buttons. Brandon Bell presents on trend-watching and talks about how fruit and vegetables are an important fashion theme this year, and says the material used is expected to be spongy. The group discusses how they could implement these fashion trends into the design, then finalizes a few decisions about the components, materials, and energy sources. Rod Stanley closes the meeting, stating what each member's next task will be.