Extracted Content: Dorothy Casey: Oh.
  Maria Charles: Du
  Dorothy Casey: Okay. Thanks
  Cathleen Schumpert: Hm.
  Dorothy Casey: for coming to this meeting. S how we doing on our remote? We have some we have some ideas and some uh ideas for what people want.
  Maria Charles: Uh we yes s I've lo I've the role that I was asked to anyway.
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah.
  Maria Charles: I think.
  Dorothy Casey: Alright let's just go over the agenda real quick for this meeting. See if I can't get things uh moving along here a little bit better. Um I'll go over what we went over last time, which shouldn't take long. Then I believe each of you have a presentation. Um I've was sent a a couple more requirements for our remote, what they want. Um then we can come to a conclusion on uh what we want the remote to do, um and how it's going to do it hopefully. And uh then we'll have the closing. Um which we'll have forty minutes for. Uh let's see, the last meeting we went over um who was responsible for what. I'm responsible for leading the meetings, keeping the notes, uh and coming up with the final presentation. Um Corinne is our Marketing Expert. She's gonna figure out what what um the consumer wants. Um Ryan is our User Interface Designer. And Manuel is Eva Albert. So you're gonna come up with the ideas Ryan, and you're gonna pick 'em apart. Um we decided our remote, uh we want it to be a universal remote uh that everyone would want. Um we want to be modern, um fun, different. Uh it needs to be sturdy, um easy to find, so we gonna have that locator function. Um and we want to be different. Um and then we went over a couple of different ideas. Ball-shaped phone. The keyboard shape. Um we decided that it should probably be one-handed. Something we could use with one hand. Um and that was our last meeting. So um why don't um Do each of you have a presentation?
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yep.
  Dorothy Casey: Okay. I'll hand it off to you and um Does anyone do you wanna go first?
  Cathleen Schumpert: Sure.
  Dorothy Casey: So we can maybe see what uh what the people want.
  Cathleen Schumpert: What was? Function
  Eva Albert: Eight.
  Cathleen Schumpert: F_
  Eva Albert: F_ eight.
  Cathleen Schumpert: eight?
  Cathleen Schumpert: Well. How do I get it
  Maria Charles: Slide show.
  Dorothy Casey: To go to the
  Cathleen Schumpert: Oh
  Dorothy Casey: next
  Cathleen Schumpert: right
  Dorothy Casey: one?
  Cathleen Schumpert: right right.
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah you click on that
  Cathleen Schumpert: That
  Dorothy Casey: guy.
  Cathleen Schumpert: one?
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Okay. Alright. Well, this is my report, which is going to be based pretty much on a survey that I was sent. Oh gosh, I've no idea. G
  Maria Charles: Just press the arrow keys I think. Usually
  Cathleen Schumpert: Okay.
  Maria Charles: goes to it.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Sorry I actually need to see something else on my screen.
  Dorothy Casey: Hit F_ eight again.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: I think.
  Cathleen Schumpert: And then? Again?
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah. You want it to be on both screens, or
  Cathleen Schumpert: No
  Dorothy Casey: just
  Cathleen Schumpert: I want
  Dorothy Casey: just
  Cathleen Schumpert: something
  Dorothy Casey: yours?
  Cathleen Schumpert: else on mine. Is that possible?
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah but I think you have to hit escape. And then you can Yeah.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Okay but now you don't have that.
  Dorothy Casey: Oh hit F_ eight again.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Sorry guys.
  Dorothy Casey: I know. I did the same thing. And then it should come up here shortly. 'Kay.
  Cathleen Schumpert: So is there no way I can give you the slideshow
  Dorothy Casey: I think
  Cathleen Schumpert: and
  Dorothy Casey: oh give us the slideshow and
  Cathleen Schumpert: yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: something on your screen?
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah. Oh
  Dorothy Casey: Mm.
  Cathleen Schumpert: well.
  Dorothy Casey: I'm not sure. You could maybe minimise that screen and then
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: have them both up at the same
  Cathleen Schumpert: It's
  Dorothy Casey: time
  Cathleen Schumpert: okay.
  Dorothy Casey: I think.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Okay. Um so first of all, the method that I used was by doing some marketing research, by um doing research on some interviews that were conducted. And then some internet research. And I was sent a report that was I think there were a hundred remote users that they interviewed. And so I will show you some of the results from that, which I think will be helpful. Um okay here are some of the findings. They said that the users dislike the look and feel of their current remote controls. And seventy five percent of the users find their remote controls to be ugly. Which is a fairly significant number I would say. And eighty percent of the users would be willing to spend more money if they could get a remote that would look fancy. So I think that earlier we were onto something when we were talking about having it be a modern cool look, I think that's definitely important. Um they say that current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot. And if anyone could clarify what that means? Zap,
  Maria Charles: Is
  Cathleen Schumpert: does
  Maria Charles: is it
  Cathleen Schumpert: that
  Maria Charles: j
  Cathleen Schumpert: just mean
  Eva Albert: Just
  Cathleen Schumpert: like changing
  Maria Charles: just
  Cathleen Schumpert: the
  Maria Charles: just
  Cathleen Schumpert: channel?
  Maria Charles: just using
  Eva Albert: jus
  Maria Charles: it yeah.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Okay.
  Eva Albert: yeah.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Um and fifty percent of the users say that they're only using ten percent of the buttons on their remote control. And there was something else, they kept track of the frequency per hour in using certain buttons. And some of them it looks like barely need to be included at all. Of course channel selection is used the most frequently. And then teletext was the next. Volume and then power. And then audio settings and screen settings and channel settings were practically never used. So I think we could definitely eliminate or somehow combine a lot of the functions into one button. Um the biggest user frustrations, as we said fifty percent of people find that their remotes are lost somewhere, and so I think a tracking device of some sort would be a good idea. They said it take thirty four percent said it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. And twenty six percent said that the controls are bad for R_S_I_.
  Maria Charles: A repetitive strain injury.
  Cathleen Schumpert: What is it?
  Maria Charles: Just repetitive strain injury. I think.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Okay.
  Maria Charles: That's what I guess.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Okay. And so bas okay. Um as far as speech recognition goes, um the younger group looks like they're all for it. From the fifteen to twenty five age group over ninety percent said they would pay more. And it kind of just went down incrementally. The groups at the older they get it looks like the less willing they are to pay, so maybe we could discuss this and think and decide if we think it's worth investing in this. At least if we're targeting the younger groups. And so in conclusion. Some things that I drew from this are that I think we were correct. We definitely need to focus on a new modern appearance, since so many people seem to be concerned about the ugliness of their remote control. Um a multifunctional remote could be a good thing to explore. So you only have one rather than five different remotes sitting all over your room. Uh we need to simplify the remote and reduce the number of buttons, get rid of the ones that don't seem to be serving much purpose. And then lastly I thought that maybe we could discuss the idea of speech recognition. And that's it.
  Dorothy Casey: 'Kay. Very nice. Now we actually have some ideas of what what people want, what we should focus on. Uh
  Dorothy Casey: Wait can I look at that real quick?
  Cathleen Schumpert: Oh yeah. Sorry did you guys get time to write everything
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Cathleen Schumpert: that you needed? 'Kay.
  Maria Charles: Having just listened to what Corinne just said, I'll draw on some of the things well. Some things that sort of what I wanna say. 'Kay so I'm just gonna yeah approach the technical functions design. Um the method I used was to explore the uh technical functions of a remote control. And t s simplest approach that I came to is is to change, programme and operate an electronic device remotely. I mean that's an obvious thing to say, but it's not attached to the device that you want to control. Um I had some things sent to Cathleen Schumpert. Not very much. To look at similar devices. Um defined in some them. And then the personal preferences that I will suggest. Um we discussed a universal one. Um like it's just been brought up again then. But I think a universal remote control is actually quite a difficult object to design, and po possibly within maybe the budget that we do it, um because you'd need to know all the spef specifications of a all the like electronic companies. I'm not sure have you ever come across a universal remote control yourself, but you have to i they're a nightmare to use. You have to set them, reset them to everything. Um and that would only add buttons. Whereas I think the aim is to take away buttons. So I think it'd be better maybe to concentrate on maybe just a universal one for T_V_s. Um or maybe just one that you could we could design and then different people, manufacturers could use it to set to their specifications, if if the aim is to get something that's unique in design. Um Okay here here's just two pictures of remote controls. They're just simple T_V_ remote controls. But one is uh user-centred. That is the one on the left. And you can straight away see there's less buttons. And the other one is engineer-centred where that's more uh specified for the sort of the elaborate piece of equipment it's trying to control um which appeals more to the product that we want, and on what the have said and the market research and stuff probably looking at something that should be user-centred. Fewer buttons, simpler to use, and if ten percent um is hidden away if ten percent is what's used, maybe the other fifty percent, the buttons that are used very rarely like programming, they could be hidden maybe under some remote controls you might have come across have maybe a little flip thi thing where they're hidden away. And the main buttons are the ones you or the ones you come across. Um and finally, um uh sort I've sort of covered that, our product I think should be user interface orientated. Um Like I said to concentrate on T_V_ remote control, a universal remote might be too complex. Um and as what it, the major findings market researchers have said, it's the image and the appearance that people di dislike. So that we should concentrate on something that would set a trend. And then and change the fashion of remote controls. And that's it.
  Eva Albert: cable there. Thank you.
  Dorothy Casey: What was your last conclusion on that one? Focus on uh
  Maria Charles: On
  Dorothy Casey: the i
  Maria Charles: something on the image of it.
  Dorothy Casey: the image
  Maria Charles: Uh
  Dorothy Casey: of it.
  Maria Charles: the f the actual design.
  Dorothy Casey: 'Kay. Good. Good.
  Eva Albert: Okay. Gonna talk to you about the working design of the interiors basically which is what dictates the design the both the interface basically and the outer appearance because this is all the stuff that needs to go in there. Right. So unfortunately the people who were supposed to do this little presentation for Cathleen Schumpert obviously were too drunk to actually accomplish it, so um I'm going to do a the stuff on the board. Um just This is the basic basic premise of a remote control. Um the basic function is to send messages to another system. Okay so much is clear. An energy source feeds an integrated circuit, like a chip, that can compose messages. Often in the form of infrared bits. This is the most mostly used. Um there's uh also some sound systems but infrared is the better or the more more used system. Um parts are cheaper as well. A user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages. This is where my people screwed up basically. So I'm going to explain that on the board rather. Um what we have is different components that obviously need to go in there. We'll start with an energy source. Right. Um which is usually a battery right? Since it's not feasible to add a cable to that. This energy source of course is connected to the the user interface itself. Uh which can be buttons, whatever, which in fact controls a chip. Right? This is the user interface and there we have the chip. Um the way this goes normally is that this chip then controls an infrared lamp. That sends out the signal. Of course the signal differs accordingly. Um depending on what the chip tells the infrared lan lamp. And Of course that's controlled, the chip itself is controlled by the user interface. The way you normally normally do it is that you add a little device such as a lamp to the whole thing as well, so that you know that it's working basically. You press something, you get a response. Which is also comparatively um important on one of those devices. Now this, what we're talking about here, or what I think should be discussed are these two components mostly. The the uh energy source for one thing can be altered. What we probably cannot alter is of course the infrared, the sending device basically, the infrared lamp. We cannot change the chip which controls the infrared lamp. Right? These two are components that we have to use, and these are dictated by the whole function of the whole thing. Um the lamp can be put onto the desi the device. It c it doesn't have to be there. This can be discussed as well. The user interface. That's something we can also discuss. Um as we've heard uh speech recognition is the hype obviously in the moment. Speech recognition um interface, we don't know that. Or if we just do the usual button thing. Or we have a touch pad or something like that that's something we can discuss. And of course the energy source. Batteries. Solar cells. Who knows? Of course it's always a question whether these these components are in fact available cheap enough, developed enough. But that's like I s I suppose rather up to marketing, and not to
  Dorothy Casey: So we could
  Eva Albert: to the industrial design
  Dorothy Casey: the the
  Eva Albert: department.
  Dorothy Casey: the more complex we make it of course, the more
  Eva Albert: Expensive
  Dorothy Casey: expensive
  Eva Albert: it's gonna be get uh. Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: But people have said that they would well younger generations of people have said that they would pay more for a speech recognition
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm-hmm.
  Dorothy Casey: remote. So
  Eva Albert: Right.
  Dorothy Casey: possibly it might be worth the investment.
  Maria Charles: I think speech recognition was uh one of those things where um they have to be really good for them to work. 'Cause sometimes you find yourself just saying things over and o
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah.
  Maria Charles: if it's on your phone.
  Dorothy Casey: I agree.
  Maria Charles: And
  Dorothy Casey: Well
  Maria Charles: you need to sort of take into light languages and then different dialects I suppose as well.
  Dorothy Casey: I myself I find, when you, h when there's something like spee speech recognition. Like uh you call on the phone and you try to change your telephone or power or something. Sometimes they have a a speech recognition
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: on the other end, and you say one for this, and you find yours, like you said, saying the same thing over and over and over. I find myself, especially if I'm in a crowd of people, looking really silly.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: So maybe if you're sitting on your couch with a bunch of people then
  Maria Charles: And
  Dorothy Casey: you
  Maria Charles: wou
  Dorothy Casey: know,
  Maria Charles: I
  Dorothy Casey: you
  Maria Charles: don't know if would would you want to keep saying stuff if you were watching stuff. If you were watching something would you sort of be wanting
  Dorothy Casey: Volume up. Volume
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: down. Change the channel, you know channel up, channel down? I I don't know.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Another thing about these figures is ninety one percent of the youngest age groups said they'd do it, but probably a lot of them that's actually their parents money. Like I don't know if they would actually go out and purchase this themselves,
  Maria Charles: I think
  Cathleen Schumpert: a fifteen year old you know.
  Maria Charles: As well it'd be j the gimmick factor
  Dorothy Casey: Mm-hmm.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah.
  Maria Charles: for the younger people. But practically I don't
  Dorothy Casey: It's
  Maria Charles: think it's
  Dorothy Casey: a, it's a gimmick factor that they like at first, and
  Maria Charles: Yeah. It'll wear off.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Gets old yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Okay. Um Let's see here.
  Maria Charles: Do you wanna put your cord back in?
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah I guess so.
  Eva Albert: Oh right.
  Dorothy Casey: Trade you.
  Eva Albert: go.
  Dorothy Casey: Now I was sent a couple of things to modify our uh new requirements. Um the remote's only gonna be for the television, which is good because we already decided y your your research showed that uh not only is a universal remote more complicated, it's more cost, more costly. And your re uh research showed that you know most of the people don't even use it. I think
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm.
  Dorothy Casey: uh you said fifty percent of the people only use half the or ten percent of the buttons. So if we remove the universal remote then that solves that problem. Um no teletext. Um So we don't have to worry about that. Um but we do have to use the the company wants us to incorporate the corporate colour and our slogan, which is we put the fashion in electronics. And our corporate colours are grey and yellow. And we could probably get away with black too but So those are the three um the three new requirements we need to use. Um from all all three of your uh presentations, I think that we were on the right track a lot in our last meeting. Um We want something that looks good. Um we want something that's simple. We want something that you can find easily. Um And the speech recognition I I guess is kind of uh give or take. It's gonna cost more. S
  Eva Albert: Mm-hmm.
  Dorothy Casey: the young the younger people say that they like it. But um it's probably, I would say, probably not worth the investment at this point in time. So maybe we should just do away with speech recognition. Um And that way we can focus on our form.
  Maria Charles: I did have have a thought about the sort of the tracking thing. Is that if it came with maybe a holder or holster, whatever you wanna call it. Um that you you should put it back in. Your remote. But if you don't put it back in, you press something like a little button on that, and that just sort of sends out a beep to find where it is or something. Just by infrared. That shouldn't be too complex I would've thought.
  Dorothy Casey: That'd be, that'd be good if we were going with our our ball.
  Maria Charles: Yeah it would be quite good. The ball
  Dorothy Casey: Or or
  Maria Charles: could sit
  Dorothy Casey: with
  Maria Charles: on a
  Dorothy Casey: you know I guess
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm.
  Dorothy Casey: with any form that that would be good. You know that could be the charger. For
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: you know we could use rechargeable batteries in the remote. And that would be or solar. Or you know However, however you wanted to go about it, the holder could also be the charging unit.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Um With the locator button. Um and if it were the ball you'd no longer have to have a flat space on it.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Um
  Eva Albert: Well you still
  Dorothy Casey: like
  Eva Albert: do.
  Dorothy Casey: if we still have the
  Eva Albert: You s you still
  Dorothy Casey: how to hold on to it and
  Eva Albert: W yeah. You put it on t on the couch table. While you're watching,
  Cathleen Schumpert: Rolls
  Eva Albert: it's
  Dorothy Casey: It's
  Eva Albert: gonna
  Cathleen Schumpert: away
  Dorothy Casey: gonna
  Eva Albert: roll
  Dorothy Casey: roll
  Eva Albert: off.
  Dorothy Casey: away.
  Cathleen Schumpert: yeah.
  Eva Albert: So that's not an issue really.
  Dorothy Casey: Um So I guess after the meeting we'll have some questionnaires. And uh and some summaries for for what's going on. Um then we'll take lunch. Then we can come back and uh work on our individual work. Um I'll do the minutes. Uh let's see. It looks like you're already on your way for uh working with the components. Um chips, the what chips we need and what uh you know how to power it and whatnot. User interface concept, we want it to be something simple.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Um Minimal number of buttons. I guess our, I guess our main um main thing that we should focus on until then is probably deciding on a certain look, you know.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Eva Albert: Right. That's
  Dorothy Casey: Did you have time earlier to to work on that. Did you guys feel you have enough time in between our meetings to get
  Cathleen Schumpert: Not
  Dorothy Casey: everything
  Cathleen Schumpert: really.
  Dorothy Casey: done that you need to get done?
  Maria Charles: I'll yeah I'll have a look, try look at the actual appearance in the next break.
  Dorothy Casey: 'Kay.
  Maria Charles: I th I I do still think it needs to be something that is ultimately one-handed. The ball
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm.
  Maria Charles: is probably not a good idea.
  Dorothy Casey: Mm-hmm.
  Maria Charles: So that I think it still has to be a variation. On maybe a a rect on a rectangle but maybe not necessarily as boring, as
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm.
  Maria Charles: plain as a rectangle.
  Dorothy Casey: Um Shall we maybe shoot for a a specific uh target group? That way we could l I mean if it were, if we were shooting for young guys then it's um a certain look to the remote. Or girls or older people? Um Would that you think that would help us find um a specific form? That we would would wanna pick out?
  Maria Charles: D I don't know if that might cope with like the trend-watching.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm.
  Maria Charles: I find anything more on that.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah not yet but maybe by the next meeting we'll have some info on that.
  Dorothy Casey: 'Kay.
  Dorothy Casey: So um we know that the remote's gonna have to be we'll just say we've got a colour scheme for it.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Um yellow and you know yellow it's nice and bright, with the
  Eva Albert: Mm.
  Dorothy Casey: buttons being grey or black. And our slogan pasted somewhere on it, on the the bottom
  Maria Charles: Bottom perhaps
  Dorothy Casey: or the
  Maria Charles: yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: you know. Um
  Dorothy Casey: Maybe we could sketch a so basically all of our remotes all of our typical remotes now are just kind of a rectangular sort. You know. Um maybe we could flare it or something. You know. So it's more of course this will look like a bone then. go ahead and erase this. Um
  Dorothy Casey: Hope everyone memorised that uh
  Maria Charles: You I mean it might be to look at sort of the the shape and trend of like things like mobile phones, and the shapes that the they've been going.
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm.
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah.
  Maria Charles: They've gone from big brick block things, which is a remote control is, to sort of slinky small things.
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah everybody's got a mobile phone right? Except for Cathleen Schumpert now. Uh But they are all, you know, mobile phones um they've kind of taken a turn to where they're really small.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Um which may defeat our purpose for
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm.
  Dorothy Casey: being able to locate our remote all the time.
  Eva Albert: Right.
  Dorothy Casey: But then again you don't want you know like the first mobile phone that was this big and you had a handbag to carry it around in. Um So we've got basically what remotes look like now is kind of what we're what we're stuck with. Um Maybe we could go with a square or something. Um
  Eva Albert: Hm.
  Dorothy Casey: Um you know with minimal number of buttons. I guess you've got you know one through nine. For typing in your channels. Uh you've got volume, up and down. Channel up and down.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Power.
  Dorothy Casey: Power. Usually at the top. Um a mute.
  Eva Albert: That's the classical
  Dorothy Casey: That's
  Eva Albert: design.
  Dorothy Casey: that's pretty much all you need I think. Um A menu button, maybe.
  Eva Albert: Right.
  Dorothy Casey: So you know. If you, if we want the remote to do other things like um or I guess the T_V_ to be able to change the tint and the colour and you know all those kind of things that are built into T_V_s, we just have that under one standard menu button where you go in, press the menu button, scroll up and down to select it.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah.
  Eva Albert: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Um
  Eva Albert: Talking of which maybe a scrolling function is not not too bad.
  Dorothy Casey: 'Kay so
  Eva Albert: It's Talk
  Dorothy Casey: Um
  Eva Albert: about maybe f look at that from the side, there maybe. Which is technically the easiest option. Would probably be like a scrolling, little scrolling wheel like this.
  Dorothy Casey: Mm-hmm.
  Eva Albert: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Like a wheel
  Eva Albert: So.
  Dorothy Casey: on your mouse.
  Eva Albert: Yeah, sort of like that.
  Dorothy Casey: Sort of.
  Eva Albert: You can even if we're coming from mice, we can even add a click function, where you, in order to verify the information you just press it down. Right.
  Dorothy Casey: 'S a good idea.
  Eva Albert: Also when it comes to the ergonomics of the whole thing, if you wanna make it square for the looks of it, then maybe to make it more comfortable to hold the whole thing, you add a little bulge down here. Just which maybe from an engineering point this could be holding the the batteries and so on.
  Dorothy Casey: Mm-hmm.
  Eva Albert: I know. You know what
  Dorothy Casey: Look
  Eva Albert: I'm getting
  Dorothy Casey: g
  Eva Albert: at here,
  Dorothy Casey: yeah.
  Eva Albert: fel
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm-hmm.
  Dorothy Casey: Looks
  Eva Albert: look
  Dorothy Casey: good.
  Eva Albert: at it from the side. It's like that. Right. Uh Then you hold it in your hand like this. And
  Maria Charles: Yes
  Eva Albert: maybe you bring the buttons
  Maria Charles: s
  Eva Albert: nearer to the or the imp more important buttons nearer to the
  Dorothy Casey: To the
  Eva Albert: to
  Dorothy Casey: thumb.
  Eva Albert: the side.
  Maria Charles: To
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah.
  Maria Charles: the thumb
  Eva Albert: Right.
  Maria Charles: yeah.
  Eva Albert: Mm.
  Maria Charles: Maybe the buttons could like uh decrease in s the bigger ones you know they could actually be bigger in size than the ones that are less important, the smaller here.
  Eva Albert: Right. You can also have it, maybe, talking about mobile phones again, sliding open.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Eva Albert: functions
  Maria Charles: Behind.
  Eva Albert: on this part, and
  Maria Charles: Definitely.
  Eva Albert: then it slides into that part. And out.
  Maria Charles: just like o on a sort of side view. Something that you know it would sort of fit in the hand better. So you know you just sort of have your hand
  Eva Albert: Mm well I was just thinking, this
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Eva Albert: this of course
  Maria Charles: Right on
  Eva Albert: causes
  Maria Charles: the and your thumb would be up here type thing.
  Eva Albert: causes a problem um for left or right-handed people actually.
  Maria Charles: Yeah that's also true.
  Eva Albert: So.
  Maria Charles: instantly sort of always going for the right-handed person.
  Eva Albert: Right.
  Maria Charles: But I mean the older so
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah is everyone who in here's right-handed, left-handed?
  Cathleen Schumpert: Right.
  Dorothy Casey: You guys
  Eva Albert: Right.
  Dorothy Casey: all right-handed?
  Maria Charles: Right-handed, yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah. So I'm left-handed but
  Cathleen Schumpert: Uh-huh.
  Dorothy Casey: I, so I can say that most things are designed for right-handed people.
  Eva Albert: That's right.
  Dorothy Casey: Like the written language. Or English.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Maybe you could buy like a special left-handed version of the remote.
  Dorothy Casey: Maybe. Ow.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Special order.
  Dorothy Casey: I would say I mean it should be probably designed for a right-handed p person.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: Um but that's that's good. That's w I think we've got a kind of a good plan there. Um At least for what buttons we're gonna use. Um So we've got uh I like the scroll, the scroll action and the.
  Maria Charles: I mean I'm just just thinking maybe if it was um circular um with the sort of that sort of the sort of early idea we had, with the way that was more like that, whereas this is just a one-handed thing that you sort of almost wrap round the thumb. So you'd have your, you'd put your hand into there with the thumb there. And then your thumb would do you'd have all the buttons sort of round here. And that I think could work.
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah.
  Maria Charles: On any hand.
  Dorothy Casey: Kinda like holding a
  Maria Charles: If you just had it like wrapped round there. Left or right.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm.
  Eva Albert: Right. That minimises it size-wise
  Maria Charles: Minimise
  Eva Albert: as well.
  Maria Charles: its size. It could be you know really quite
  Eva Albert: Mm.
  Maria Charles: small.
  Eva Albert: Then there's maybe another point of making it a two-in-one kind of thing. If we have a smaller a smaller device that actually fits into the big one. You give it the full functions in here, and just a couple of functions in there.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Hmm.
  Eva Albert: Like your zap zapping
  Maria Charles: Zapping
  Eva Albert: device
  Maria Charles: functions.
  Eva Albert: is just u channels up-down, uh volume, and on-off. That's it.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Could
  Dorothy Casey: Yeah.
  Cathleen Schumpert: be good.
  Eva Albert: Maybe.
  Dorothy Casey: So two remotes in one. But then would be easier to lose one or the other.
  Eva Albert: That's right. Means the big one has to be sufficiently big. And perhaps heavy, so you can't move it around. Make it a piece of furniture.
  Cathleen Schumpert: Yeah,
  Dorothy Casey: It actually is your coffee table.
  Eva Albert: yes.
  Cathleen Schumpert: yeah.
  Eva Albert: Yes, there you go. Or a statue or something.
  Dorothy Casey: Okay. Well we need to finish up here. Um So for the next So for the next um before the next meeting w uh sh shall we work on you're watching trends
  Cathleen Schumpert: Mm-hmm.
  Dorothy Casey: to see what
  Maria Charles: Yep.
  Dorothy Casey: what kind of new information we've got going on. Um Manuel you're going to work on the components
  Eva Albert: Right.
  Dorothy Casey: for for what we're gonna use. Let's go with our our uh rounded kind of fit in your hand let's explore uh the the uh possibility of having the two-piece. So one for the
  Eva Albert: Alright.
  Dorothy Casey: the quick zapping um and possibly one you know with just that rounded part
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: that fits into your hand. Um And Ryan you work on um how how well they'll work
  Maria Charles: How
  Dorothy Casey: with
  Maria Charles: well it'll
  Dorothy Casey: the us
  Maria Charles: work yeah.
  Dorothy Casey: with the user. So both of those concepts. And uh okay I think we made some good progress here.
  Eva Albert: Alright.
  Dorothy Casey: see you in I dunno. I gu I guess we'll take lunch in about uh half an hour. Or I guess we'll be taking lunch shortly and then then in about half an hour after that we'll probably have another meeting.
  Maria Charles: Yeah.
  Eva Albert: Alright.
  Dorothy Casey: Okay.
Updated Content: Dorothy Casey recapped the events and decisions of the previous meeting. Cathleen Schumpert presented research on user preferences and tendencies with remote controls. The research indicated that users want remotes to be more attractive, to match the behavior of the user, to be easier to locate when misplaced, and not to cause RSI. The research also indicated that younger users were interested speech recognition. Maria Charles spoke on the option to have a universal remote, presented two differently designed remotes available on the market, and described some features a user-centered remote should include. Eva Albert discussed the interior workings of a remote and then the team discussed the option to include speech recognition in their design. Dorothy Casey briefed the team on some new requirements to abide by. The team then discussed the option to include a recharger with a locater button in their design, the appearance of their remote, buttons, how to make an ergonomic remote, and the option to have a two-piece remote.