Extracted Content: Omar Johnson: Wouldn't wanna be Project Manager. Uh what, we going to do. Um, once again I'm uh gonna take minutes. So, um no presentation for Donald Martin. Uh, first we have a prototype presentation by G_ and G_.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yo.
  Donald Martin: J_
  Omar Johnson: Afterwards
  Donald Martin: and J_.
  Omar Johnson: some uh eval eval evalu
  William Oley: Evaluation.
  Donald Martin: Evaluation.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Evaluation
  Omar Johnson: evaluation
  Rodney Leuthauser: criteria.
  Omar Johnson: s sorry. Uh evaluation crit criteria. Uh, in combination with the finance I um uh I received uh a an uh an Excel uh file
  Donald Martin: Hmm.
  Omar Johnson: which we have to fill in later on. Um, you see. Uh, and
  Donald Martin: Hmm. Interesting.
  Omar Johnson: then we must see uh if we uh stay under the twelve
  Donald Martin: Ah,
  Omar Johnson: and a
  Donald Martin: okay.
  Omar Johnson: half Euro. So, that's uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Oops.
  Donald Martin: Cool.
  William Oley: Mm-hmm.
  Omar Johnson: that's a
  William Oley: That's
  Omar Johnson: big
  William Oley: gonna
  Omar Johnson: l so
  William Oley: be
  Omar Johnson: let's uh wait
  William Oley: problem.
  Omar Johnson: it uh um
  Rodney Leuthauser: Some creative
  Omar Johnson: we have we
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh
  Omar Johnson: have must uh, we must have uh some time for that uh because it will be uh yeah, quite a lot
  Rodney Leuthauser: Oh.
  Omar Johnson: of mathematics.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: And after that, uh uh an evaluation of uh the process how we uh how we have done it here with the SMARTboard, with the with our laptops, with the all uh all this. And uh afterwards, uh we closing. Once again, forty minutes, so uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Ok
  Omar Johnson: let's start.
  Rodney Leuthauser: okay.
  Omar Johnson: I would g give the word to um G_ and G_ for the prototype
  Rodney Leuthauser: Shall I
  Omar Johnson: presentation.
  Rodney Leuthauser: give a short introduction and then uh
  William Oley: Yeah, well sure.
  Donald Martin: J_ and J_.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: J_ and J_.
  Donald Martin: Jane and Jane.
  Rodney Leuthauser: J_ and J_, okay.
  Donald Martin: 'Kay guys, take it away.
  William Oley: Hi.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Take it away.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Um, this was our first concept. We decided to use a single touch-screen. So, we've worked out this concepts, how to how to hold it, where to put the buttons and and stuff. And um, well, we began with uh a form of, that is uh is easy to hold w in one hand, left or right handed. So, we made i it a little bit less thick and uh it has some ar artistic meaning. No? This uh isn't nothing. Idea maybe uh is better. Um well, during the meeting I showed you the concept of uh placing the buttons on top, usable with your thumb, and uh the menu structure, uh if necessary, with your other hand, so it's just gonna hold it easily. And it has to be acce accessible with your uh other hand too, of course. So we began uh working out a concept.
  William Oley: Yeah, uh well, and as you saw, we would just have the basic remote with the panel L_C_D_ uh screen. Well, these would be the main buttons, h you could uh change them later on in your own profile if you want to. But, well it's standard they will be delivered with this kind of uh set-up. We have the more advanced menu uh setting right here. We the sub-menus and We made a top oh, or a front view. Just so like you wanna uh back view. As you can see, this uh there, there are uh two uh weird bumps in it. This is for uh the added uh effect of uh well uh y youth and dynamic. And uh this is for the artistic effect. Well, what we figured is uh we'll show you a picture later on you have more b a better idea after that. But, idea is for to stay in balance with these two uh with
  Donald Martin: Hmm.
  William Oley: these two. And so when you put it on the table, it will just lay down. It won't uh roll around or stuff. But it will lie more in your hand like an old telephone maybe, or like these old
  Omar Johnson: Mm.
  William Oley: uh phones. Y you you may get the idea. So thi this is about uh how we figured it should be. The s panel we g you would hide with some more uh rubber layers, like we discussed early on. Uh, you would s you wouldn't see the uh straight panel, but more fluidly and
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  William Oley: round.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the panel just uh of course goes like this.
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: But the overlaying layer is uh a little bit uh curved and stuff.
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: No, okay.
  William Oley: And uh, in these bumps you could actually uh put some electronics uh that would you can make a more thinner uh
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  William Oley: design, and that would actually
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: look very nice, yeah. And uh, about the colour, what have
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah. Oh, we added that this um can be held with your hands for this maximum is om yeah, one and a half centimetres. So, you have room here for your battery and maybe even other um electronic chips. S
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: and you can just be the the layer of the touchscreen and some have some wires underneath it to make
  Donald Martin: Hmm.
  Rodney Leuthauser: it as uh thin as possible in the middle for good grip.
  William Oley: Yeah, f uh, as colours, do you do you have the picture in uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: Oh yeah. Now, well this is the idea about uh the bumps. Uh, you can see there's a v a very uh youthful uh dynamic uh exterior. It uh you just want to hold it you uh you are young and uh dynamic
  Donald Martin: 'S l
  William Oley: like
  Donald Martin: it's
  William Oley: us.
  Donald Martin: like an uh Easter egg.
  William Oley: Yeah, it's
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: like an e but this is for children. We we want a more adult version. But, this is like a remote control for children.
  Omar Johnson: It's called a weemote
  Donald Martin: Weemote.
  William Oley: A weemote. Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Weemote.
  William Oley: Hey, that's actually a brilliant uh marketing stand. Uh,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Wait
  William Oley: but
  Donald Martin: what I w got in mind.
  William Oley: So this actually basic the idea. We we just want to build a more uh adult vers adult version of of this.
  Donald Martin: Mm-hmm.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, I can imagine that.
  William Oley: And and for colours, we we figured starting with basic colours like uh white or metallic grey. Those are the technological colours actually,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: so
  Rodney Leuthauser: It
  William Oley: it
  Rodney Leuthauser: would
  William Oley: d
  Rodney Leuthauser: be best to to appeal to a broad public and make the covers exchangeable, so the young people will buy an orange and a red and
  William Oley: Or
  Rodney Leuthauser: blue
  William Oley: blue
  Rodney Leuthauser: and a purple,
  William Oley: or whatever.
  Rodney Leuthauser: but when the o older people uh go in the shop and they see uh an orange um remote control, it would be less appealing than a white one. And young
  Donald Martin: Hmm.
  Rodney Leuthauser: people, we think, are a little bit more flexible, they think, ah I'll buy for a couple of Euros
  Donald Martin: Hmm.
  Rodney Leuthauser: some noi nice hip
  Donald Martin: Maybe
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh
  Donald Martin: it's an idea to sell it without a cover, so
  Rodney Leuthauser: Well,
  Donald Martin: that can a in the
  Rodney Leuthauser: um
  Donald Martin: in the shop.
  Rodney Leuthauser: I think a cover is necessary, 'cause als otherwise
  Donald Martin: Yeah, okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: you'll just
  Donald Martin: Yeah, okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: have the L_C_D_ screen. So, there must be some cheap standard cover,
  Donald Martin: Hmm.
  Rodney Leuthauser: um maybe
  Donald Martin: Mm.
  Rodney Leuthauser: white or something, that's could comes with it and you can buy, so we can make extra
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: money.
  Omar Johnson: but uh you
  Donald Martin: Oui okay.
  Omar Johnson: d you mustn't forget that uh our target aim is younger people. Uh, we had decided to uh put uh some flashy fruity colours in it, uh and uh in the survey from uh Milan and Paris uh it uh it came out that uh uh the d the older people are uh more willing to uh to spend money on extra features.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: So I think uh it will be a better idea to have some uh flashy
  Rodney Leuthauser: The other way around,
  Omar Johnson: fruity colours
  Rodney Leuthauser: you mean.
  Omar Johnson: as as a standard,
  William Oley: Oh
  Omar Johnson: and
  William Oley: yeah.
  Omar Johnson: for the people who uh really want uh a more sophisticated, more traditional
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh-huh.
  Omar Johnson: look, they're willing to pay uh that.
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: They want uh they want more luxury stuff, but they have the money to do it and
  Rodney Leuthauser: Mm-hmm.
  Omar Johnson: they want to b to buy that.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: So, maybe
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: it's an idea to put that as an extra and
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: not as a standard.
  William Oley: Yeah, maybe yeah, perhaps you're right. Uh, I I would I would actually agree with this sounds logical.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay,
  Donald Martin: An another
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah.
  Donald Martin: idea. Uh, maybe we could uh develop a cover uh with wood style.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: They'll please the elder users as well.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Well yeah, a colour of a wood style, a white c and uh a couple of h hip uh fruity colours.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Yes.
  William Oley: Nah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: And lea
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh l delivered standard with a fruity colour, but not too
  Donald Martin: Not not too
  Rodney Leuthauser: not too
  Donald Martin: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: much. This is
  Donald Martin: yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: banana and mango, not not purple or p orange and
  Donald Martin: Yeah, exactly.
  Rodney Leuthauser: yellow.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah. But,
  Donald Martin: Yeah. Or
  Omar Johnson: the
  Donald Martin: blue
  Omar Johnson: mai I
  Donald Martin: or
  Omar Johnson: think th uh the standard must be some kind of uh uh attractive flashy colours. Not
  Rodney Leuthauser: Ah.
  Omar Johnson: too, but
  Rodney Leuthauser: Mm-hmm.
  Omar Johnson: w a little,
  William Oley: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: because
  William Oley: li like
  Omar Johnson: that's
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: our
  William Oley: like
  Omar Johnson: aim.
  William Oley: this like this. This
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  William Oley: isn't this isn't too
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  William Oley: much,
  Rodney Leuthauser: okay.
  William Oley: is it? I
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  William Oley: f
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Well, the buttons
  Donald Martin: Well
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: don't
  Donald Martin: I
  Omar Johnson: have
  William Oley: The
  Omar Johnson: to
  Donald Martin: I
  William Oley: buttons,
  Omar Johnson: be
  Donald Martin: I think
  Omar Johnson: uh
  William Oley: I
  Omar Johnson: all
  Donald Martin: so.
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Donald Martin: Yeah, except
  Omar Johnson: all of
  Donald Martin: for the buttons it's
  Omar Johnson: yeah.
  Donald Martin: it could
  Omar Johnson: It
  Donald Martin: be a standard model.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  William Oley: Yeah, uh something like this would be nice.
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay.
  William Oley: Okay, that's that's it from us.
  Omar Johnson: Thank you.
  Donald Martin: 'Kay, it's my time now.
  Rodney Leuthauser: It's my turn.
  Omar Johnson: Donald Martin.
  William Oley: Uh-oh.
  Donald Martin: Okay. During the Oh. During the design uh design life-cycle
  Omar Johnson: Sorry.
  Donald Martin: we uh we made lot of requirements and trend analysis and stuff. Um, now is the time to uh evaluate our prototype concept to uh to the past requirements. So we are going to evaluate the design according to the past user requirements and trends analysis. Um, we're going to do that with a seven point scale. Opening a Word document now.
  Donald Martin: Okay. One oh, okay, uh I have to expla explain something. We have to uh be consensive about about things. So, it has to be a group uh group decision. Okay?
  Omar Johnson: Okay, so
  Donald Martin: Uh
  Omar Johnson: we gon we gonna evaluate
  Donald Martin: We're going to
  Omar Johnson: the
  Donald Martin: vote. We yeah? The
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Donald Martin: prototype.
  Omar Johnson: the the thing we saw.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Okay, just saw.
  Donald Martin: Okay, one. The remote control is designed for people with age below forty.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah. Seven?
  Donald Martin: Seven is false.
  Omar Johnson: Uh, true.
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: Sorry.
  Donald Martin: b one or
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, one I think.
  Donald Martin: Most
  William Oley: Why?
  Donald Martin: true?
  William Oley: Yeah, it's not
  Rodney Leuthauser: Mm.
  William Oley: just uh designed for people under the age of forty. It's also designed for people above
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  William Oley: forty.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: so so
  William Oley: So
  Donald Martin: a o one is appropriate? Or,
  Rodney Leuthauser: No no, a little
  Donald Martin: more
  Rodney Leuthauser: more
  Donald Martin: like a
  Rodney Leuthauser: in
  Donald Martin: four.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the middle. No,
  William Oley: I have
  Donald Martin: Three.
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh
  William Oley: I've
  Rodney Leuthauser: three or yeah.
  William Oley: Yeah, two or three, because it's not just uh the qu question
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  William Oley: is aimed at is it designed for people with age below forty. But it's also designed for people
  Donald Martin: Ah,
  William Oley: of
  Donald Martin: exactly.
  William Oley: age above forty. So,
  Donald Martin: Exactly.
  William Oley: I'll say it's about
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  William Oley: three.
  Rodney Leuthauser: it will be primary
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Donald Martin: Three.
  Rodney Leuthauser: appealing to to m minus forty, but
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: also appealing
  Donald Martin: But also
  Rodney Leuthauser: to
  Donald Martin: for yeah, okay. Uh, second. The remote control is beautiful.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah. It's Wow.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, acco according to us, it's one? Or
  William Oley: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  William Oley: I I think
  Rodney Leuthauser: it's
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the marketing uh
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: angle on television.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, p s
  Rodney Leuthauser: We have a wonderful
  Donald Martin: Of c of course you have to be uh very positive and uh enthusiastic about your
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: own product.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Well, it's also fancy
  Donald Martin: Three.
  Rodney Leuthauser: then.
  Donald Martin: Uh, the remote control looks fancy.
  William Oley: Yes.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: One?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Of
  William Oley: Yes.
  Rodney Leuthauser: course.
  Omar Johnson: Yep.
  Rodney Leuthauser: We have a perfect remote.
  Donald Martin: Good. Four. The remote control has big, clear channel switching buttons.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yes. Yeah yeah, oh they have to agree but
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Yes.
  William Oley: Leads to user face, yeah.
  Donald Martin: Daniel.
  Rodney Leuthauser: I'm the User Interface uh Expert.
  Donald Martin: Uh, teletext buttons and volume buttons?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Um,
  Omar Johnson: No
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh
  Omar Johnson: teletext
  Rodney Leuthauser: no.
  Omar Johnson: buttons. Teletext
  Rodney Leuthauser: You you've
  Omar Johnson: is in the menu.
  Rodney Leuthauser: different
  Donald Martin: False?
  Rodney Leuthauser: menu.
  William Oley: Yeah, false.
  Rodney Leuthauser: And volume
  Donald Martin: And
  Rodney Leuthauser: is
  Donald Martin: volume?
  Rodney Leuthauser: impo yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Volume is true.
  Donald Martin: True.
  William Oley: Uh, hmm.
  Donald Martin: Big and clear?
  William Oley: Yeah, the
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah
  William Oley: they are big
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah,
  William Oley: and clear.
  Rodney Leuthauser: big
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: and clear.
  Omar Johnson: big and clear.
  Rodney Leuthauser: But you could make a teletext
  Donald Martin: Hey.
  Rodney Leuthauser: button uh six. Otherwise,
  Donald Martin: Hey.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the people who read
  Donald Martin: Hide.
  Rodney Leuthauser: this uh are gonna think we have no teletext button.
  William Oley: Yeah, but but the teletext button. Yeah, you can ch
  Donald Martin: It's
  William Oley: That's
  Donald Martin: it's
  William Oley: in
  Donald Martin: not
  William Oley: a menu. So, it's
  Donald Martin: yeah,
  William Oley: w yeah,
  Donald Martin: it
  William Oley: it it it it
  Donald Martin: J
  William Oley: isn't entirely unclear, but So, I wouldn't give it a seven. I would
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  William Oley: give it a more a five or a six.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Five? Okay.
  William Oley: Uh, I don I don't know. What
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  William Oley: do you think,
  Donald Martin: it's it's
  William Oley: uh
  Omar Johnson: Oh,
  William Oley: Mister
  Donald Martin: yeah.
  Omar Johnson: okay.
  William Oley: Project
  Omar Johnson: Well,
  William Oley: Manager?
  Omar Johnson: I agree. I was thinking
  William Oley: Hmm.
  Omar Johnson: very black and white.
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Black and red.
  Omar Johnson: Thank you J_.
  Donald Martin: Red.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay,
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: don't forget to save it.
  Donald Martin: Volume.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh
  Donald Martin: The remote control is easy to be found.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh well, when we put in fancy colours, yeah and
  William Oley: Yeah, it has these all these fruity colours and it
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: has a strange shape.
  Omar Johnson: Fruity.
  William Oley: So, if you so if you have
  Rodney Leuthauser: But, um
  William Oley: trouble finding it
  Rodney Leuthauser: it it's not making any sound uh, have
  Donald Martin: Oh,
  Rodney Leuthauser: we
  Donald Martin: okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: deciding?
  Donald Martin: but
  Rodney Leuthauser: So
  Donald Martin: If you put uh your normal uh remote control under your bed, or you throw this remote control under your bed, is it better findable?
  Rodney Leuthauser: It'll make a difference. We have the better re I don't know. Yeah, I think so. My remote control's black.
  Donald Martin: A li little bit maybe?
  Rodney Leuthauser: A little bit,
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: but yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Well,
  Donald Martin: Four?
  Omar Johnson: we p
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh
  Omar Johnson: we can
  Donald Martin: Fi
  Omar Johnson: do it glow in the dark. So,
  Donald Martin: I
  Omar Johnson: if
  Rodney Leuthauser: K yeah.
  Omar Johnson: it's in the dark
  Rodney Leuthauser: Fo
  Omar Johnson: place,
  Rodney Leuthauser: fo
  Omar Johnson: you still
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah
  Omar Johnson: see
  Donald Martin: Ah,
  Omar Johnson: it
  Rodney Leuthauser: fo
  Omar Johnson: glowing.
  Donald Martin: I
  Rodney Leuthauser: five
  Donald Martin: I I
  Rodney Leuthauser: is.
  Donald Martin: think five. It's it's it doesn't really make a lot of
  William Oley: Well, then uh then I'll go for four.
  Donald Martin: Four?
  William Oley: Because uh four is between three and uh uh also between between
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  William Oley: true and false.
  Rodney Leuthauser: okay,
  William Oley: Uh,
  Rodney Leuthauser: you're right.
  Omar Johnson: I
  William Oley: so I'll
  Omar Johnson: think
  William Oley: I'll go for
  Donald Martin: Yes,
  William Oley: four.
  Omar Johnson: Ah,
  Donald Martin: but
  Omar Johnson: you must
  Donald Martin: five
  Omar Johnson: see it as
  Donald Martin: is between four and six.
  Omar Johnson: uh,
  William Oley: Wha
  Omar Johnson: w uh according to uh the the other uh remote controls, there may uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Donald Martin: B_.
  Omar Johnson: be there in your
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: uh T_V_ room, this one will stand out, I think.
  William Oley: Yeah, that
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: that's a better question
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  William Oley: actually.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: it
  Omar Johnson: Exa
  Donald Martin: it's
  Omar Johnson: I think
  Rodney Leuthauser: If your
  Omar Johnson: that
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh fifteen
  Omar Johnson: that's what
  Rodney Leuthauser: remotes
  Omar Johnson: it's about.
  Rodney Leuthauser: in a drawer, uh you find it, yeah?
  Omar Johnson: If it if this lying on your couch, you're you're you think what's that for kinda orange
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: uh thing.
  Donald Martin: yeah. But
  Omar Johnson: So
  Donald Martin: but the survey under
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: users was that they uh really lost it.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, that's stupid.
  Donald Martin: Like, no not uh not seeing it, but lost it in the house or something.
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh, but when
  Donald Martin: But,
  Rodney Leuthauser: you
  Donald Martin: okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: lost it
  William Oley: Well,
  Rodney Leuthauser: you're just
  William Oley: if i if
  Rodney Leuthauser: not
  William Oley: you see a strange shape lying somewhere, uh then you'd uh recognise it as, whoa, that is strange.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, mostly
  Omar Johnson: That's
  Rodney Leuthauser: when
  Omar Johnson: our
  Rodney Leuthauser: you
  Omar Johnson: remote
  Rodney Leuthauser: lose
  Omar Johnson: control.
  Rodney Leuthauser: your
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: remote
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: control,
  William Oley: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: it it's
  William Oley: what
  Rodney Leuthauser: under
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  William Oley: is
  Donald Martin: I
  William Oley: that.
  Rodney Leuthauser: your
  William Oley: Uh,
  Donald Martin: I agree, I agree. Okay.
  William Oley: so it's
  Rodney Leuthauser: Most of times
  Donald Martin: Eight,
  Rodney Leuthauser: when you lose it you're sitting
  Donald Martin: the remote
  Rodney Leuthauser: on it.
  Donald Martin: control
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh
  Donald Martin: has fresh, fruity colours.
  Omar Johnson: True.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Um I would call uh choose two, 'cause we decided not to make
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: two f
  Donald Martin: yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh fresh colours,
  Donald Martin: not
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: too flashy.
  Rodney Leuthauser: as it would not.
  Donald Martin: The remote control is made of soft material.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Um,
  William Oley: Yeah, rubber, is kind of soft.
  Rodney Leuthauser: kinda
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: soft,
  Omar Johnson: but
  Rodney Leuthauser: but
  Omar Johnson: not too
  Rodney Leuthauser: but
  Omar Johnson: soft
  Rodney Leuthauser: not
  Omar Johnson: we have
  Rodney Leuthauser: this.
  Omar Johnson: decided.
  Donald Martin: Three?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Three, yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah. Yeah yeah, easy to use,
  Omar Johnson: Easy to use. One.
  Rodney Leuthauser: very afford.
  Donald Martin: Easy to use?
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, can it be zero?
  William Oley: Well, I don yeah, it is
  Donald Martin: Top
  William Oley: kind
  Donald Martin: easy
  William Oley: of
  Donald Martin: to use? It's
  William Oley: It
  Donald Martin: it's not the most easy to use
  Rodney Leuthauser: No,
  William Oley: No. Uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: you can do two, because um
  Donald Martin: It can be easier.
  Rodney Leuthauser: it can be easier.
  William Oley: It could
  Donald Martin: Jus
  William Oley: yeah.
  Donald Martin: just with ten
  Rodney Leuthauser: l
  Donald Martin: buttons,
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah,
  Donald Martin: that's the easiest.
  Rodney Leuthauser: but then you'll lose
  William Oley: Functional
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: function
  William Oley: ability.
  Rodney Leuthauser: f yeah, functionality and our fancy uh look, so.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, but the most uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: But
  Donald Martin: easy to use
  Rodney Leuthauser: It
  Donald Martin: is just
  Rodney Leuthauser: is r
  Donald Martin: with
  Rodney Leuthauser: it
  Donald Martin: one
  Rodney Leuthauser: is rather
  Donald Martin: button
  Rodney Leuthauser: easy to use, because you have
  Donald Martin: on
  Rodney Leuthauser: the
  Donald Martin: t
  Rodney Leuthauser: primary buttons always visible.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, okay, but easy n not not the most easy to
  William Oley: No,
  Donald Martin: use,
  William Oley: it's
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  Donald Martin: I
  William Oley: it
  Donald Martin: think.
  William Oley: I I'll go for two. My vote's
  Donald Martin: Two?
  William Oley: on two.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: m mine
  Omar Johnson: two.
  Rodney Leuthauser: too.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, two.
  Donald Martin: We also have to compare it to the uh to the remote controls on the market nowadays. So
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, but waits just a minutes. Inspiration.
  Omar Johnson: What's the time? We also have uh to do the evaluation,
  Rodney Leuthauser: These are the
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: m
  Omar Johnson: the production
  Rodney Leuthauser: regular
  Omar Johnson: costs
  Rodney Leuthauser: remotes.
  Omar Johnson: and uh stuff.
  Donald Martin: Yeah yeah, I'm uh hurrying. Okay, eleven. The remote control is innovative.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yes,
  William Oley: Yes.
  Rodney Leuthauser: true, one.
  Donald Martin: A very
  Omar Johnson: You're agree, Tim?
  Donald Martin: of course.
  Omar Johnson: You haven't seen a more innovative uh thing in uh
  Donald Martin: The remote
  Omar Johnson: Paris?
  Donald Martin: control has m remova removable from
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yes,
  Donald Martin: Multilux.
  Rodney Leuthauser: one. Very multifunctional. No.
  Donald Martin: The remote control, i it has speech recognition. False.
  William Oley: Yes,
  Omar Johnson: False.
  William Oley: it
  Rodney Leuthauser: This is used with speech recognition, this.
  Donald Martin: The remote control has built-in games?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yes. But uh, maybe make it two, because the games are in a sub-menu and not uh it's not an entire
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, but
  Rodney Leuthauser: game.
  Omar Johnson: they are built in, so it's one.
  William Oley: Yeah, they are built in.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, okay.
  William Oley: Not down.
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Donald Martin: And the last, paren parental advisory function.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yes.
  William Oley: You really like the parental
  Omar Johnson: Freak.
  William Oley: advisory.
  Donald Martin: Yes,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Th did
  Donald Martin: I do.
  Rodney Leuthauser: you make this or
  William Oley: Bu
  Rodney Leuthauser: the
  Donald Martin: Save as.
  William Oley: Yeah, he made it.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, It changes it maybe.
  Donald Martin: Okay, I will uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Oh yay.
  Donald Martin: do the the math.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Oh dear.
  Donald Martin: Now it's your turn.
  Omar Johnson: Okay, thank you. We'll see.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Hmm?
  Omar Johnson: Mm.
  Omar Johnson: Okay, we have now to c uh to calculate the production cost. If it's under uh twelve and half Euro, then it's uh ok uh okay. But i is it if it is b Huh? No, this isn't right. Okay so, Redesign.
  Rodney Leuthauser: If they're under
  Omar Johnson: Oh
  Rodney Leuthauser: twelve
  Omar Johnson: yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: fifty.
  Omar Johnson: if they under Yeah. No. Oh yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah? Cau 'cause so
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: it's okay.
  Omar Johnson: it's sorry. Yeah, if the costs are under twelve and a half Euro, uh then we uh can uh ra uh move on to the project evaluation, as we have uh experienced it. Otherwise, we have uh do uh have to do a little uh redesign uh thingy. So to fill in the numbers of the component uh components. We have to uh fil uh, want to uh do it in and uh see uh if we stay under the twelve and a half Euro. So, do we have uh a hand dynamo?
  William Oley: No.
  Omar Johnson: No. That's
  William Oley: Donald Martin, too.
  Omar Johnson: zero.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Battery,
  William Oley: Yes.
  Rodney Leuthauser: yes.
  Omar Johnson: Battery,
  Rodney Leuthauser: One.
  Omar Johnson: one?
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: One,
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah. Kinetic, one.
  Omar Johnson: Kinetic,
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: one?
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Okay, solar cells, zero.
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Okay, uh simple
  William Oley: Uh,
  Omar Johnson: chip on print?
  William Oley: n no.
  Donald Martin: No.
  Omar Johnson: No?
  Donald Martin: Advanced
  William Oley: No.
  Omar Johnson: No,
  Donald Martin: chip.
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  Omar Johnson: advanced
  William Oley: Yes.
  Omar Johnson: chip. Sample sensor sample speaker?
  Rodney Leuthauser: No,
  William Oley: No.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the advanced
  Donald Martin: Advanced
  Rodney Leuthauser: chip
  Donald Martin: chip is
  Rodney Leuthauser: is
  Donald Martin: three.
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh
  Omar Johnson: Three?
  Donald Martin: Three Euros, yep.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: Uh,
  Omar Johnson: Yeah
  William Oley: we have
  Omar Johnson: uh, but
  William Oley: one.
  Omar Johnson: it
  William Oley: We
  Omar Johnson: it's
  William Oley: have
  Omar Johnson: one
  William Oley: one.
  Omar Johnson: one
  Donald Martin: Okay,
  Omar Johnson: thing,
  Donald Martin: one piece,
  Omar Johnson: it's
  Donald Martin: yeah.
  Omar Johnson: three Euro.
  William Oley: No,
  Omar Johnson: Uh,
  Donald Martin: No.
  William Oley: sev
  Omar Johnson: what's
  William Oley: zero.
  Omar Johnson: the sample sensor?
  William Oley: Well, that's um
  Donald Martin: Speech recognition,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  William Oley: yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: you
  William Oley: speech
  Donald Martin: I
  Rodney Leuthauser: give
  Donald Martin: think.
  William Oley: recognition
  Rodney Leuthauser: it a sample,
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  William Oley: and s
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh one.
  Omar Johnson: Zero. Uh, uncurved flat.
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  Donald Martin: No.
  William Oley: A zero.
  Omar Johnson: No. But is it s
  Donald Martin: No.
  Rodney Leuthauser: You
  Omar Johnson: it's
  Rodney Leuthauser: no.
  Omar Johnson: not made from a single uncurved thingy
  William Oley: No.
  Omar Johnson: and
  William Oley: No.
  Omar Johnson: then uh
  Donald Martin: Thingy.
  Omar Johnson: and then uh no? Okay. So it's only uh once double-curved.
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Yes,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, 'cause
  Donald Martin: three.
  Rodney Leuthauser: um the
  Donald Martin: Eight.
  Rodney Leuthauser: layer around it fits around the bubbles on the o on the uh
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the back
  Omar Johnson: We're
  Rodney Leuthauser: of
  Omar Johnson: now in a
  Rodney Leuthauser: the
  Omar Johnson: problem, 'cause uh we have uh reached eleven Euro
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh,
  Omar Johnson: yet.
  Rodney Leuthauser: we don't have anything else. So
  Donald Martin: Okay, go on.
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  Donald Martin: Just
  Omar Johnson: but
  Donald Martin: go on.
  Omar Johnson: uh
  William Oley: Just
  Omar Johnson: we
  William Oley: go
  Omar Johnson: have
  William Oley: on. Then we'll see uh we'll we'll see uh wha how much we are over budget.
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Could you step a little to the
  Donald Martin: Two.
  Rodney Leuthauser: right ma Yeah. Oh, sorry.
  Donald Martin: Two.
  Omar Johnson: Uh, rubber.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Or
  Omar Johnson: You.
  William Oley: Zero.
  Rodney Leuthauser: And
  Omar Johnson: Titanium,
  Rodney Leuthauser: zero.
  Omar Johnson: no?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Special uh is the special
  Omar Johnson: Special
  Rodney Leuthauser: colour?
  Omar Johnson: colour?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Mm.
  William Oley: I don't think so. No,
  Donald Martin: No.
  William Oley: this is a standard colour.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: Yes,
  Donald Martin: S
  William Oley: this is a special
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  William Oley: colour.
  Omar Johnson: but we want to make uh the wood colours, uh that uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, if if you're honest, we'll uh type one,
  Donald Martin: Yeah, but
  Rodney Leuthauser: special colour.
  William Oley: That's
  Donald Martin: but
  William Oley: an add-on.
  Donald Martin: D but Daniel, tha
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Donald Martin: that's
  Omar Johnson: one.
  Donald Martin: that's another brand. That's another article to sell.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, but we we going to yeah yeah, that's true. But yeah, it's it's
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh,
  Donald Martin: That doesn't
  Omar Johnson: it
  Rodney Leuthauser: j
  Donald Martin: account for this.
  Rodney Leuthauser: maybe we'll finish
  Donald Martin: Producing
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh the
  Donald Martin: this.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the list first and then look back,
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: aye?
  Omar Johnson: the push-button, no.
  Rodney Leuthauser: No. Scroll wheel, no.
  Omar Johnson: Scroll-wheel, no.
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  Omar Johnson: No. Oh, no. Yes, one.
  Rodney Leuthauser: One,
  Omar Johnson: Uh,
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah.
  Omar Johnson: button, no.
  William Oley: No.
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  Omar Johnson: No, the
  Rodney Leuthauser: Mm,
  Omar Johnson: the we
  Rodney Leuthauser: is
  William Oley: These
  Rodney Leuthauser: it
  William Oley: three.
  Omar Johnson: don't
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  Omar Johnson: have a s
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  William Oley: Well,
  Omar Johnson: no.
  William Oley: we're only four
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  William Oley: Euro over budget.
  Omar Johnson: Oh, okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: So
  William Oley: But
  Omar Johnson: So, um what's the thing we can change?
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  William Oley: Well, other
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  William Oley: case, we can make it single-curved or uncurved.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Uh,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Mm,
  Omar Johnson: can I uh I
  Rodney Leuthauser: single-curves.
  Omar Johnson: say something?
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: No, can
  Donald Martin: of
  Omar Johnson: I
  Donald Martin: course.
  Omar Johnson: say something
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: uh as Project Manager?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Just cut
  Omar Johnson: The
  Rodney Leuthauser: off
  Omar Johnson: kinetic
  Rodney Leuthauser: the kine
  Omar Johnson: thing,
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah.
  Omar Johnson: can we just skip it, because
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Or
  William Oley: Okay,
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah.
  William Oley: sure.
  Omar Johnson: you have to shake it, but that's not really innovative.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, we just put a good
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: battery it it. Mobile phones
  Donald Martin: Daniel.
  Rodney Leuthauser: nowadays.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Daniel,
  Omar Johnson: Yo.
  Donald Martin: what do you
  Omar Johnson: Sorry,
  Donald Martin: think about
  Omar Johnson: yeah, yes.
  Donald Martin: Here. What do you think about uh putting a battery in it,
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: but also selling like uh the covers, a docking station just apart from the from the thing,
  Omar Johnson: Mm-hmm.
  Donald Martin: so that you can uh put uh rechargeable batteries in it
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Donald Martin: and just
  Rodney Leuthauser: But you can use rechargeable batteries anyway, just you s you have to recharge
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, and not
  Rodney Leuthauser: them
  Omar Johnson: really.
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: manual.
  Donald Martin: yeah, okay.
  Omar Johnson: But we if you forget
  Donald Martin: Just
  Omar Johnson: about
  Donald Martin: an idea.
  Omar Johnson: the kinetic,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  William Oley: Yeah,
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: that's
  William Oley: sure.
  Rodney Leuthauser: a
  Omar Johnson: well
  Rodney Leuthauser: cost reduc
  Omar Johnson: if we do that, we shall.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Ah.
  William Oley: Okay, well you
  Omar Johnson: So
  William Oley: you can
  Omar Johnson: um
  William Oley: go from double-curved to single-curved.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, of course.
  William Oley: And that would solve the budget problem.
  Omar Johnson: Uh,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: b
  Rodney Leuthauser: so we have to bake
  Omar Johnson: but
  Rodney Leuthauser: the ba back
  Omar Johnson: i
  Rodney Leuthauser: flat,
  Omar Johnson: but
  Rodney Leuthauser: and then
  Omar Johnson: the single-curved
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: is just
  William Oley: It's
  Omar Johnson: oh
  William Oley: just
  Rodney Leuthauser: No,
  William Oley: yeah
  Rodney Leuthauser: it's
  William Oley: well, the single-curve
  Rodney Leuthauser: it's just
  William Oley: that
  Rodney Leuthauser: one curve and not a back uh curved I think.
  Omar Johnson: Oh, okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Or
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: okay.
  William Oley: Exactly, yeah.
  Omar Johnson: So that's
  Rodney Leuthauser: Or
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: are
  Omar Johnson: wh tha
  Rodney Leuthauser: these two curves?
  Omar Johnson: that's
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh
  Omar Johnson: one option. And then w yeah, and then we could have it,
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: but uh it's its' well it's it's r it is the main point of the the the
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, but what
  Omar Johnson: the look.
  Rodney Leuthauser: else uh do we have to cut out?
  William Oley: We
  Rodney Leuthauser: No
  William Oley: going
  Rodney Leuthauser: advanced
  William Oley: to cut
  Rodney Leuthauser: chip, uh that's a little bit of problem.
  Omar Johnson: No, tho uh
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: that that can be done. So
  Rodney Leuthauser: Although,
  Omar Johnson: uh,
  Rodney Leuthauser: can we make it with a regular
  Omar Johnson: okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: chip?
  Omar Johnson: a little less uh conversation.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Curvy.
  Donald Martin: Hey, those ar arcs, why are there for?
  Omar Johnson: Sorry?
  Donald Martin: The blue blue uh
  Omar Johnson: Fill in Just a
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Explanation.
  Omar Johnson: explanation.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Twelve fifty.
  Omar Johnson: I
  Rodney Leuthauser: Well
  Omar Johnson: can delete it for you if you want.
  Donald Martin: No, no no.
  Omar Johnson: So, if we do this, uh we're on uh twelve and a half Euro. And we're done.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, but does it fit with our design? Do we have to u adapt
  Omar Johnson: Uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: it?
  Omar Johnson: well, the only uh thing that don't
  Rodney Leuthauser: It's single-curves.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, single-curved,
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: W
  Omar Johnson: but there's a curve in it. So
  Rodney Leuthauser: Could we just make the bubbles uh cut off the back, and then we're uh has
  William Oley: Yeah, we just make it flat.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay.
  Donald Martin: But,
  William Oley: But, you
  Donald Martin: wha
  William Oley: do l
  Donald Martin: 'Kay, look, what is the uh If you make it double-curved, it costs one Euro
  Rodney Leuthauser: More.
  Donald Martin: more.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: But
  Rodney Leuthauser: You make it optional.
  Donald Martin: No, but does it have a lot of extra
  William Oley: Function.
  Donald Martin: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Functional.
  Donald Martin: fun function more
  William Oley: Worth,
  Donald Martin: like
  William Oley: does
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh,
  William Oley: it
  Rodney Leuthauser: there's
  William Oley: have
  Rodney Leuthauser: an
  William Oley: added
  Rodney Leuthauser: a
  William Oley: worth?
  Rodney Leuthauser: a athe
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: aesthetic
  William Oley: No,
  Rodney Leuthauser: value,
  William Oley: um
  Rodney Leuthauser: but not functionality.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, it's really
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: a
  Donald Martin: uh
  Omar Johnson: static
  Donald Martin: aesthetic.
  Omar Johnson: value. Yeah.
  Donald Martin: I mean, uh you make like eleven and a half Euros profit instead of twelve and a half. But I don't know if twelve and a half is uh a fixed uh fixed price.
  William Oley: Yeah, well
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Donald Martin: No, we
  William Oley: let's
  Omar Johnson: it
  Donald Martin: can't
  Omar Johnson: is.
  William Oley: assume
  Donald Martin: go above
  William Oley: it is.
  Donald Martin: that. Yeah?
  Omar Johnson: Oh.
  William Oley: We we should assume it i that it is.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: okay.
  William Oley: But
  Donald Martin: okay.
  William Oley: I I figured
  Donald Martin: Then it's
  William Oley: that
  Donald Martin: okay.
  William Oley: the kinetic would be a marketing promotion. R if you uh promote a kinetic um I kinetic remote control, I mean, that would b sell better than an a normal remote control.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah. Do you think?
  Donald Martin: Yeah, I
  Omar Johnson: Well,
  Donald Martin: think
  Omar Johnson: now
  Donald Martin: so.
  Omar Johnson: you can shake your remote control.
  William Oley: No, well, y I mean uh, y you can go into your neighbour and tell him, ha, my k uh remote control is kinetic.
  Omar Johnson: Kinetic.
  William Oley: You
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: have standard old
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  William Oley: battery control uh remote
  Donald Martin: What
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: con
  Donald Martin: a what about all the m the environment freaks? Not freaks,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, but
  Donald Martin: the
  Rodney Leuthauser: it
  Donald Martin: envi
  Rodney Leuthauser: doesn't fit in our co cost profile. So
  Donald Martin: No.
  William Oley: True.
  Donald Martin: I I think it's it's It look like this one.
  Rodney Leuthauser: You ma can make an
  Omar Johnson: Yeah?
  Rodney Leuthauser: an especialised extra gold version.
  Omar Johnson: Who because if you want to go to kinetic, you're uh you're on thirteen and a half and you must go to flat, and I think now it's it's more of uh a compromise
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: thing. And if you make the single curve ha just a big curve, then it's uh then
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: it's uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: just one big
  Omar Johnson: yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: curve.
  Omar Johnson: one big good curve. I was going to uh say nasty words, but I don't. This is strange by the way. Wood is m is is is cheaper than rubber. We
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: thought that wood would be
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh,
  Omar Johnson: more
  Rodney Leuthauser: this
  Omar Johnson: expensive.
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh American figures. You just cut down some trees.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, maybe. But uh that this is this is it? Yeah.
  Donald Martin: This is it.
  Omar Johnson: Okay, this
  Rodney Leuthauser: Whoever
  Omar Johnson: is it.
  Rodney Leuthauser: makes uh a remote
  Omar Johnson: I'm
  Rodney Leuthauser: control
  Omar Johnson: gonna save
  Rodney Leuthauser: out of
  Omar Johnson: it.
  Rodney Leuthauser: titanium.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yes.
  William Oley: It is possible, but you can't use double uh curves for titanium.
  Rodney Leuthauser: No.
  William Oley: That's one of the functionability uh
  Omar Johnson: Okay, well, considering we have
  Donald Martin: Ah no, we have to do all those hours again. Go back. One back? Costs on uh No redesign.
  Omar Johnson: Well, we were above, so
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: we
  Rodney Leuthauser: We sue.
  Omar Johnson: did a little
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: redesign
  Rodney Leuthauser: We
  Donald Martin: okay, yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, we'll start her all o
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: all over again.
  Omar Johnson: um now uh it's about time to uh talk about uh this project. Uh, some uh things. Were there uh room for uh was there room for creativity
  Rodney Leuthauser: Um
  Omar Johnson: in
  Donald Martin: Hmm.
  Omar Johnson: our meetings or in your individual meetings?
  Donald Martin: I I didn't think so. That there was a lot of room for it. But, that's mainly because uh of the information that was delivered to us.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: It was just fixed information and get your stuff from there, and I couldn't
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: go on on i on the internet and search
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Donald Martin: my own stuff.
  Omar Johnson: yeah,
  Donald Martin: Bu
  Omar Johnson: yeah. That's true. I agree with that.
  William Oley: Well, I th I think you two, uh especially you and uh and uh Daniel, you d you you both had uh the less creative uh roles
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  William Oley: in the
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  William Oley: project.
  Omar Johnson: That's true.
  Rodney Leuthauser: For
  William Oley: 'Cause
  Rodney Leuthauser: us,
  William Oley: I
  Rodney Leuthauser: there was
  William Oley: think
  Rodney Leuthauser: a lot of
  William Oley: m
  Rodney Leuthauser: creativity. We could just sign up an uh remote if we liked.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, that's true.
  William Oley: I think Jeroen and I, we had a more design we could have more we had more room for creativity than than
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  William Oley: you two.
  Donald Martin: Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
  Omar Johnson: Okay. Uh how about the leadership?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh
  Donald Martin: Leadership
  William Oley: Ha.
  Donald Martin: was uh crappy.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Crappy.
  William Oley: Nah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Cra
  William Oley: the leadership wasn't crappy, it was the leader that was crappy.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: Nah.
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  William Oley: No,
  Omar Johnson: thank you very
  William Oley: the
  Omar Johnson: much.
  William Oley: leadership was
  Omar Johnson: Now
  William Oley: okay.
  Omar Johnson: we're done.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, example of crappy leadershi
  Donald Martin: No, leadership was uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay, yeah.
  William Oley: Yeah,
  Donald Martin: Okay,
  William Oley: it was good.
  Donald Martin: I thought uh the first meeting was a little bit of unstructured meeting.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, that's
  Donald Martin: Uh,
  Omar Johnson: true.
  Donald Martin: you could have but uh, it was your first, no uh no disrespect or something, but you could have uh structure it a l little bit more. So
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: like, I I was talking most of the time the first meeting
  Rodney Leuthauser: You could
  Donald Martin: meeting,
  Rodney Leuthauser: of said, shut
  Donald Martin: and
  Rodney Leuthauser: up you
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: fool.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: But
  Omar Johnson: I notice it too. I was a I was also very uh unhappy, uh very unsatisfied uh about the
  Donald Martin: About Donald Martin.
  Omar Johnson: about the first meeting. So, uh I hope uh uh the the
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  William Oley: Try to
  Omar Johnson: the
  Donald Martin: you
  William Oley: learn
  Donald Martin: made
  Omar Johnson: other
  William Oley: from
  Omar Johnson: meetings
  Donald Martin: up.
  William Oley: your mistake.
  Omar Johnson: uh
  William Oley: And we will never do it again.
  Omar Johnson: get better and uh I
  Donald Martin: No,
  Omar Johnson: think the
  Donald Martin: it
  Omar Johnson: the last
  Donald Martin: you did
  Omar Johnson: two
  Donald Martin: better.
  Omar Johnson: meetings uh also we we reached uh some good decisions
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: about
  Rodney Leuthauser: more
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: more
  Omar Johnson: talk
  Rodney Leuthauser: consensus.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Ev
  Omar Johnson: yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: everybody w was
  Donald Martin: Much
  Rodney Leuthauser: agreeing
  Donald Martin: more constructive.
  Rodney Leuthauser: every
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: so uh that's cool. Uh, teamwork? Well, maybe that's uh only Yeah well, it's for us,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Well,
  Omar Johnson: because
  Rodney Leuthauser: we work
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: together on a project, but
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: everybody has his own task.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah
  Rodney Leuthauser: So, it
  Omar Johnson: and
  Rodney Leuthauser: is
  Omar Johnson: it's wo
  Rodney Leuthauser: a little
  Omar Johnson: more
  Rodney Leuthauser: bit
  Omar Johnson: like presentation and some points were discussed.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: But,
  Rodney Leuthauser: No
  Omar Johnson: really teamwork were you two uh
  Donald Martin: Two
  Rodney Leuthauser: Well,
  Donald Martin: guys.
  Rodney Leuthauser: it went okay.
  Omar Johnson: The
  William Oley: Yeah, that went w it went well. It's
  Omar Johnson: Yeah?
  William Oley: it's just uh
  Omar Johnson: No
  Rodney Leuthauser: Stupid
  Omar Johnson: hard feelings.
  Rodney Leuthauser: stupid
  William Oley: Nah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: pen, but uh
  William Oley: Yeah, we we had some trouble with the pen, but
  Omar Johnson: Yeah. Now you you must push a little while.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, but
  William Oley: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: but
  William Oley: but us
  Rodney Leuthauser: draw something uh difficult.
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: D uh just write your name right now. Try to write your name,
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: in in writing letters, of course, yeah? Yeah, normally, uh this uh the w Block letter sign it, yeah?
  Omar Johnson: O Just
  Rodney Leuthauser: Just
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: just write your name in
  Omar Johnson: okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: in one line. If it's a little bit too small bit quicker now. It
  Omar Johnson: You
  Rodney Leuthauser: didn't
  Omar Johnson: can be you can go quicker, 'cause then it it won't notice it.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh he he knows how it works, yeah.
  Omar Johnson: I
  William Oley: Oh.
  Omar Johnson: follow the Master class for the SMARTboard, so I think that's the that's the main issue.
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: Um, so uh
  Donald Martin: Means.
  Omar Johnson: about this one you were uh you're dealing with,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Y well, yeah.
  Omar Johnson: um
  Rodney Leuthauser: Th the
  Omar Johnson: the the
  Rodney Leuthauser: i
  Omar Johnson: the the digital pen.
  Rodney Leuthauser: The idea is great, but it
  Omar Johnson: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: doesn't work properly.
  Donald Martin: Digital
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh
  Donald Martin: pen, I thought uh th the first time I did individual work, I used it.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: But, a and the first two meetings I brought it with Donald Martin, but I didn't use it at all
  Omar Johnson: No.
  Donald Martin: after the first
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: No, I
  Donald Martin: the first
  William Oley: have it
  Donald Martin: meeting.
  William Oley: working. But, uh yeah,
  Donald Martin: It's
  William Oley: well
  Donald Martin: it's not
  William Oley: uh
  Donald Martin: real real use for
  William Oley: No,
  Donald Martin: Donald Martin.
  William Oley: it doesn't have
  Omar Johnson: Huh.
  William Oley: that much added value to
  Rodney Leuthauser: Nee.
  William Oley: the
  Omar Johnson: Well
  Rodney Leuthauser: As uh as I said a m a c few moments ago, it I would like, myself, to write with a normal pen, because must um Yeah, it's almost the same concept, but
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: you can just sim more simply put it on our scanner. I it's the same concept
  Omar Johnson: M yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: as the pen, where you f have to download the software or s uh very uh
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: slow.
  Omar Johnson: And it is still your own handwriting
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yes.
  Omar Johnson: uh popping
  Rodney Leuthauser: No,
  Omar Johnson: up
  Rodney Leuthauser: and
  Omar Johnson: in
  Rodney Leuthauser: it
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: doesn't
  Omar Johnson: Word.
  Rodney Leuthauser: give any added value.
  Omar Johnson: No,
  Donald Martin: Not
  Omar Johnson: uh that's
  Donald Martin: really,
  Omar Johnson: true.
  Donald Martin: no.
  Omar Johnson: No. And uh the SMARTboard is uh useful, but the the pen is I uh not user-friendly, I
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: think.
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: not user-friendly.
  Omar Johnson: Be it it takes a lot of time to draw things
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: and to
  Rodney Leuthauser: and
  Omar Johnson: write
  Rodney Leuthauser: it's
  Omar Johnson: things,
  Rodney Leuthauser: it's not
  Omar Johnson: and that's
  Rodney Leuthauser: very precise.
  Omar Johnson: the
  Rodney Leuthauser: We're
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: trying to m to
  Donald Martin: like when you do this.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, it may um Yeah, and tr try to wri write your name uh in a in a normal uh size, yeah. Smaller.
  Donald Martin: Smaller?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, smaller. Just like when you're writing on a letter.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, but that's not th the the you when you at a foreign audience, you b don't gonna wr uh write
  Rodney Leuthauser: No,
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: a as you
  Omar Johnson: small.
  Rodney Leuthauser: saw on on this drawing, just open open this one or that one. It's uh th it it Yeah, uh we had more problems even here when we trying to draw these buttons, it's almost impossible to get
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: clear uh when you're uh
  Donald Martin: Oh. Sorry.
  Omar Johnson: But maybe there's some function with no, it isn't. With uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: And the eraser was another problem. It w t is is this large. And when you try to erase this line,
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: y
  Omar Johnson: Well, I'm gonna erase my uh name.
  Rodney Leuthauser: I'm gonna erase my name there.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, it's a big uh big
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: eraser.
  Donald Martin: New ideas?
  Rodney Leuthauser: M
  Omar Johnson: Um
  Rodney Leuthauser: Abo What kind of new ideas?
  Omar Johnson: Well, the the idea of the touch-screen is uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, uh
  Donald Martin: Do you? Go on.
  Omar Johnson: I'm just uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: New ideas about uh the working of this software, about about
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the project, about
  Donald Martin: Mm, yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: the
  Donald Martin: I think
  Rodney Leuthauser: remote
  Donald Martin: so.
  Rodney Leuthauser: controls or
  Omar Johnson: I don't know what what I mean.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Hello.
  Donald Martin: Did you heard what he said? I don't
  Omar Johnson: No.
  William Oley: Know what
  Donald Martin: I
  William Oley: I
  Donald Martin: don't
  William Oley: mean.
  Donald Martin: know what I mean. Oh, I have some figure. Here. The
  Omar Johnson: Oh.
  Donald Martin: eva the evaluation,
  Omar Johnson: Oh yeah.
  Donald Martin: the mm the mean uh number is uh one point eight one point eight six.
  Omar Johnson: That's interesting.
  Donald Martin: So that's fairly uh fairly good, I think.
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: because what does it mean?
  Rodney Leuthauser: So true.
  Donald Martin: Uh, that uh
  Omar Johnson: All
  Donald Martin: all
  Omar Johnson: the
  Donald Martin: the
  Omar Johnson: mo
  Donald Martin: requirements
  Omar Johnson: yeah, are
  Donald Martin: uh are
  Omar Johnson: between
  Donald Martin: true
  Omar Johnson: one and two.
  Donald Martin: or very
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: true,
  Omar Johnson: Oh, okay.
  Donald Martin: right. Yep.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, okay. Thank you, expert. But the new ideas found for uh wi with working with this uh software?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Not really,
  Omar Johnson: Not
  Rodney Leuthauser: just
  Omar Johnson: really, yeah?
  Rodney Leuthauser: they have to improve it. Uh, the concept is okay,
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, I think
  Rodney Leuthauser: but it has to be quicker. Uh, it is still opening my programme, n almo almost uh my entire computer is locked up during
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: the process and it, yeah, just takes too many time. People will still feel the need to to write it quickly on uh a page
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: and not download it and save it, and
  Omar Johnson: You had expected it to to be uh more more uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: More user-friendly.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: 'Cause when you use a pen, you can just
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: draw like you d
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: draw normally, and
  Donald Martin: May maybe
  Rodney Leuthauser: you do
  Donald Martin: the idea you proposed is uh a screen here.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: And draw it, and
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: it's it's
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, that l
  Donald Martin: placed over there.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Would be easier. Or at least when you you don't have to adapt to the technology, just you can write in the way you normally write.
  Donald Martin: Hmm? No.
  Rodney Leuthauser: And now you have to um keep constantly in mind that you're drawing on this screen. And that's
  Omar Johnson: Yep,
  Rodney Leuthauser: a very bad concept.
  Omar Johnson: yep. Yeah, that's
  Donald Martin: Ah,
  Omar Johnson: true.
  Donald Martin: very bad.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Nah,
  Donald Martin: But
  Rodney Leuthauser: okay, I I it's my
  Donald Martin: I
  Rodney Leuthauser: opinion
  Donald Martin: think
  Rodney Leuthauser: that
  Donald Martin: this
  Rodney Leuthauser: I
  Donald Martin: is better than regular flip-overs, but
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, it's can be saved easier.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: But if you're in normal flip-over you a lot of people write text. There's
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: no text option. And writing text uh, yeah, you've gotta really do your best to write
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, and
  Rodney Leuthauser: some
  Omar Johnson: and maybe some uh functions for uh uh uh circle or uh a square.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: You have to draw it yourself now.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Or maybe even
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: insert picture. If you have uh some presentation,
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  William Oley: Or
  Rodney Leuthauser: and you have
  William Oley: text
  Rodney Leuthauser: some
  William Oley: function.
  Rodney Leuthauser: f
  William Oley: Just t t type text, and that
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  William Oley: that would be uh excellent. Mean
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, but insert image isn't available?
  Rodney Leuthauser: 'Cause then you
  Donald Martin: Here.
  Rodney Leuthauser: could
  Donald Martin: Picture from scanner, clip-art.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: Oh,
  Omar Johnson: that
  Rodney Leuthauser: okay.
  Omar Johnson: that can be done already. But
  Rodney Leuthauser: So
  Omar Johnson: not
  Rodney Leuthauser: you can
  Omar Johnson: the the the
  Donald Martin: Hyperlink?
  Omar Johnson: the predefined uh squares I think uh
  Donald Martin: Hey, what if you do like hyperlink?
  Rodney Leuthauser: With uh
  Donald Martin: Type
  Rodney Leuthauser: W_W_
  Donald Martin: type it?
  Rodney Leuthauser: dot Google dot com. Oh
  Donald Martin: Re
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah. Maybe.
  Donald Martin: Real Reaction dot N_L_.
  Omar Johnson: Hmm?
  Donald Martin: Yes,
  Omar Johnson: Sorry?
  Donald Martin: is now is okay. Okay?
  Rodney Leuthauser: You'll just make a link in
  Donald Martin: Huh.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Well, that's nice.
  Rodney Leuthauser: There's one way to uh
  Omar Johnson: Is it
  Donald Martin: 'Kay, double-click it.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Maybe if if you're not using the eraser
  Omar Johnson: Here. oh.
  Donald Martin: You're erasing.
  Omar Johnson: Oh, sorry.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Something else th Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: Select.
  Rodney Leuthauser: arrow.
  Donald Martin: Double-click
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: it.
  Omar Johnson: Here, that.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay. Well,
  Omar Johnson: So
  Rodney Leuthauser: it's
  Omar Johnson: you have as you saw, you have a little uh Oh, you can Yeah, thank you. You can go uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah, okay.
  Omar Johnson: there. So there the the the functionality is there, but it's
  Rodney Leuthauser: But.
  Omar Johnson: not it's not ideal, and it's it's very it costs a lot of time to uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: To use, yeah.
  Omar Johnson: to use.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: And that's a pity, if you uh if you have uh thirty, forty minutes uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: for this kind of things,
  Rodney Leuthauser: And
  Omar Johnson: and we
  Rodney Leuthauser: that's
  Omar Johnson: are now
  Rodney Leuthauser: m
  Omar Johnson: with four people, but it well, imagine you are here you're with the ten people and everyone
  Rodney Leuthauser: That's mostly
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: the case, from the over here with the managements you get two minutes to make your case, and if you
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: have to do all
  Omar Johnson: Two minutes
  Rodney Leuthauser: this kind
  Omar Johnson: of drawing, yeah.
  Donald Martin: Yep.
  Rodney Leuthauser: You'll rather use PowerPoint and work it out in advance.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: And th the one or two things you have to draw when you're
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: there, just use a flip-board.
  Donald Martin: What I really miss also is uh is a d is a turtle is a decision uh decision system like um With the evaluation, you have to Polls like, what do you want, a one, a two,
  Omar Johnson: Yeah yeah.
  Donald Martin: maybe a
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: a l a little application like uh uh give your own number and click one two three four five six seven.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, just like he said with the with the a screen which you can write, also uh a
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: kind of
  Donald Martin: j
  Omar Johnson: voting
  Donald Martin: ju
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Donald Martin: ju
  Omar Johnson: mechanism.
  Donald Martin: yeah, v voting
  William Oley: Oh.
  Donald Martin: application. Just
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: a little group group decision application.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  William Oley: But uh, problem is, well you can't discuss anything well you you ca uh you can, but you will discuss a lot less than l like we did now.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  William Oley: We I mean uh w w w one one person s maybe said three. But, well uh I we said uh, no I w th think two, because this and this, and then you can react uh on it. But
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  William Oley: if you
  Donald Martin: okay.
  William Oley: you put a three on it, uh just figure well, everybody knows what I'm knowing, so they'll all just put a two on.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, of course. But, uh you can still discuss about it,
  William Oley: Yeah, but
  Donald Martin: but
  William Oley: it would yeah.
  Donald Martin: but click it in an application, that's a lot easier to process.
  William Oley: Yeah okay, the for processing
  Donald Martin: The digit.
  William Oley: part.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  William Oley: But then uh, I think the idea of one person entering it and the rest uh discussing it, that uh isn't that bad idea, actually.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  William Oley: Not that your opinion isn't valued, but but still.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: Okay, so
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yo, manager.
  Donald Martin: That's it?
  Omar Johnson: Uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: When
  Omar Johnson: well,
  Rodney Leuthauser: are w
  Omar Johnson: just about, because uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: When are we going to produce it?
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, tomorrow?
  Donald Martin: Celebration.
  Omar Johnson: Uh, the costs are within the budget. Uh,
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: the project is evaluated.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: But, before we going to celebrate, uh I have uh a little question which you can't answer, because uh there must be some kind of end report. I am busy with the end report right now. You might thinking what the hell was he doing
  Donald Martin: What
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Donald Martin: is an end report?
  Omar Johnson: Uh about all the meetings, what we have decided,
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: a r r a report of this day.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Uh, that must be made, but I don't know, here is uh standing uh whoa, we can celebrate now, but the
  Donald Martin: Oh,
  Omar Johnson: end report
  Donald Martin: you ha you
  Omar Johnson: is
  Donald Martin: have ten minutes left, I uh read.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Oh.
  Donald Martin: You have now ten minutes left to finish up the end
  Omar Johnson: Okay
  Donald Martin: report.
  Omar Johnson: well, that uh that can be done. Maybe we can do it uh together. You can see what I've uh
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: yeah? So
  William Oley: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: I
  William Oley: sure.
  Omar Johnson: I s I will uh put it on a story-board. You can see it.
  Donald Martin: Um
  Omar Johnson: Because I think it will uh it must be uh
  Donald Martin: You you already made a beta version, or
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, it's a three uh with seventy five uh
  Donald Martin: Pages.
  William Oley: Y yikes.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  William Oley: Seventy five pages.
  Omar Johnson: just about. Well, just a moment. End report.
  Donald Martin: Okay, Daniel. Do you want a chair maybe?
  Rodney Leuthauser: A chairman.
  Donald Martin: Hey?
  Omar Johnson: No no no, I'm just uh
  Donald Martin: Oh, okay.
  Omar Johnson: you can s you can read it and uh here here it is. End
  William Oley: So you
  Omar Johnson: report.
  William Oley: you finished it actually, and so we just have to read it and say yes or no?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yes.
  Omar Johnson: Well, this not nit it read-only. But it's not uh fully
  Donald Martin: Five minutes
  Omar Johnson: finished yet.
  Donald Martin: for finishing.
  Omar Johnson: Um, this is about the functional design, the
  Donald Martin: Management
  Omar Johnson: things
  Donald Martin: Expert, you have
  Omar Johnson: yeah yeah.
  Donald Martin: to change that.
  Omar Johnson: Oh yeah. I'm uh
  Donald Martin: Marketing.
  Omar Johnson: when I said it, I remember I
  Rodney Leuthauser: It's
  Omar Johnson: had
  Rodney Leuthauser: a
  Omar Johnson: it
  Rodney Leuthauser: read-only
  Omar Johnson: here.
  Rodney Leuthauser: version.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, but you can save it u the under another name.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Oh, okay.
  Omar Johnson: Marketing Expert, okay. Um about the three functions where uh which are most used and uh which must uh immediately be visible on our uh remote control. Um, it must be uh simple to use, very clear what to do, and at the younger people. So, this is really about wh uh what kind things uh must be in it and uh yeah.
  Donald Martin: Maybe um the
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh
  Donald Martin: The
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, I understand you, I
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: can talk a little bit Dutch.
  Donald Martin: You Yeah. No, you have to put uh, switch channels uh at the top, because that's the most
  Omar Johnson: Oka
  Donald Martin: used function
  Omar Johnson: okay,
  Donald Martin: and
  Omar Johnson: okay, I
  Donald Martin: teletext at the second
  Omar Johnson: I really didn't
  Donald Martin: Oh
  Omar Johnson: knew
  Donald Martin: nay, a
  Omar Johnson: that.
  Donald Martin: volume changing, second.
  Omar Johnson: So, this one's
  Donald Martin: S
  Omar Johnson: first.
  Donald Martin: switch, yes.
  Omar Johnson: You go there and you go there.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: So, okay.
  Donald Martin: Okay, go on.
  Omar Johnson: Well, maybe I can then do it one two three.
  Donald Martin: Yes,
  Rodney Leuthauser: One
  Donald Martin: very good.
  Rodney Leuthauser: two three.
  Omar Johnson: If the order is in uh is
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: is uh important,
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: that's the word for.
  Donald Martin: The order.
  Omar Johnson: Uh, then the conceptual design. Uh, well all the things we have uh discussed, uh the energy, which uh turn out to be uh batteries, so that's
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah. Well, okay, maybe you can add it later
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Rodney Leuthauser: that we decided
  Omar Johnson: because
  Rodney Leuthauser: in the end
  Omar Johnson: yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: because of the cost.
  Omar Johnson: Uh, he here it is still double-curve,
  Donald Martin: Single-curves.
  Omar Johnson: the rubber, the flashy, the fruity, the removable. Uh,
  William Oley: It's
  Omar Johnson: the
  William Oley: not
  Omar Johnson: buttons
  William Oley: double. Uh,
  Omar Johnson: Hmm?
  William Oley: it's
  Rodney Leuthauser: A single-curved.
  William Oley: not double anymore, eh?
  Omar Johnson: Not
  Donald Martin: No, okay.
  Omar Johnson: double anymore. Nay but that this is what um
  William Oley: Yeah,
  Donald Martin: Was
  William Oley: okay.
  Donald Martin: initial, the
  Omar Johnson: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: plan.
  William Oley: Yeah.
  Donald Martin: The initial plan.
  Omar Johnson: And the the added functions like Tetris snake, it's under the parental control, the touch-screen.
  William Oley: On
  Omar Johnson: So,
  William Oley: thing
  Omar Johnson: it's
  William Oley: uh
  Omar Johnson: uh just a summary of what uh we had discussed uh
  William Oley: One small thing uh, the added functions. Uh, was it included in the cost? I don't think so, eh?
  Rodney Leuthauser: Ah, it's very cheap.
  William Oley: It's
  Omar Johnson: Uh,
  William Oley: very
  Omar Johnson: it's
  William Oley: cheap.
  Omar Johnson: very cheap, you you maybe you you you you come at uh
  Donald Martin: No, it's it's not very cheap, but
  Omar Johnson: It's very
  Donald Martin: that
  Omar Johnson: necessary.
  Donald Martin: no, but it's a development inside corporation. Like, uh w we don't have to buy parental control. Our own people can
  Omar Johnson: Yeah,
  Donald Martin: make
  Omar Johnson: but
  Donald Martin: that,
  Omar Johnson: it
  Donald Martin: I
  Omar Johnson: still
  Donald Martin: think.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: has
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: some
  Donald Martin: it it has some
  Omar Johnson: yeah.
  Donald Martin: cost, but
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: He'll
  Omar Johnson: but
  Rodney Leuthauser: do
  Omar Johnson: so
  Rodney Leuthauser: it
  Omar Johnson: we
  Rodney Leuthauser: in
  Omar Johnson: can
  Rodney Leuthauser: his free
  Omar Johnson: discuss
  Rodney Leuthauser: time.
  Omar Johnson: that
  Rodney Leuthauser: So
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: uh
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: we can discuss that kind of things I think with the with the the board of uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Of directur or directors.
  Omar Johnson: What's it what's the company called? I just keep forgetting it.
  Donald Martin: Real
  Omar Johnson: Real
  Donald Martin: Reaction.
  Omar Johnson: Real Reaction.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: Real Reaction, yeah.
  Rodney Leuthauser: You can ask
  Omar Johnson: Okay,
  Rodney Leuthauser: your personal
  Omar Johnson: so uh anybody uh misses something here about
  Rodney Leuthauser: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: the end conclusion. But uh
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, okay, that's that's what
  Donald Martin: Okay.
  Omar Johnson: I'm gonna write b
  Donald Martin: Still the end
  Omar Johnson: between
  Donald Martin: conclusion.
  Omar Johnson: now.
  Donald Martin: That's
  Omar Johnson: But,
  Donald Martin: all, I think.
  Omar Johnson: i in here nothing uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: Um, the decision to make um the buttons on the top, and the menu on the
  Omar Johnson: Mm-hmm.
  Rodney Leuthauser: on the bottom. And
  Omar Johnson: Yes.
  Rodney Leuthauser: clearly Yeah, touch-screen you've mentioned.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, touch-screen I've
  Donald Martin: Yeah,
  Omar Johnson: mentioned.
  Donald Martin: but but the the decisions are put in the uh conclusion, I think.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay.
  Donald Martin: Why we decided to
  Rodney Leuthauser: Okay,
  Donald Martin: use
  Rodney Leuthauser: this
  Donald Martin: a flat
  Rodney Leuthauser: n
  Donald Martin: uh
  Rodney Leuthauser: yeah.
  Donald Martin: L_C_D_.
  Omar Johnson: Yeah, okay, well I gonna redesign uh something now.
  Donald Martin: Yeah.
  Omar Johnson: No.
  Donald Martin: Um
  Rodney Leuthauser: Party party.
  Omar Johnson: Because I think it will Oh, five minutes from to
  Rodney Leuthauser: Oh,
  Omar Johnson: finish meeting.
  Rodney Leuthauser: before you change anything maybe you um save
  Donald Martin: Save
  Rodney Leuthauser: it first.
  Donald Martin: it.
  Donald Martin: Hmm.
  Rodney Leuthauser: You can't you can select file and export and then those J_ PEG files.
  Donald Martin: Yeah, but then you had the same thing.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Well, eight. And we have uh, another blank one.
  Donald Martin: Example of children
  Rodney Leuthauser: Did we change
  Donald Martin: remote.
  Rodney Leuthauser: anything?
  Donald Martin: Oh wait. Wait.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Wow. Yeah. It's a new uh commercial logo.
  Donald Martin: Hmm. That's a pity.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Don't save it, aye?
  Omar Johnson: Oh, that's cool, Tim.
  Rodney Leuthauser: Uh,
  Omar Johnson: Finish meeting now. Well,
  Rodney Leuthauser: why are
  Omar Johnson: I'm
  Rodney Leuthauser: only
  Omar Johnson: I'm
  Rodney Leuthauser: the first five SMARTboard files
  Omar Johnson: I'm going to finish my
  Rodney Leuthauser: saved?
  Omar Johnson: end report.
  William Oley: Okay, um hereby is the meeting is finished.
  Donald Martin: You declare.
  Omar Johnson: I am the one who can say that. Yeah? Hereby the meeting is finished. Yeah.
Updated Content: Omar Johnson opened the meeting and went over the agenda. Rodney Leuthauser and William Oley presented their prototype design, describing the shape and layout of the remote. The group discussed colour options and decided to make the standard remote in fruity colours, but with the option of buying different exchangeable covers which might appeal more to older buyers. Donald Martin led the prototype evaluation and the group were happy with their product. The group calculated the production costs. The group were 4 euros over budget, so they decided to make the case single-curved and not to use kinetic energy. Omar Johnson led the evaluation of the project process. The group felt that only William Oley and Rodney Leuthauser were able to be creative and work as a team. It was felt that the first meeting was disorganised because of poor leadership but the leadership improved in the later meetings. The group were also had problems with the digital pens. The group helped Omar Johnson fill in the final report before the close of the meeting.