Extracted Content: Robert Lebeau: Okay.
  Robert Lebeau: Right. Okay.
  Robert Lebeau: Alright. everyone?
  Eugene Boyes: Yep.
  Robert Jacobs: Yep.
  Robert Lebeau: Okay. This is our conceptual design meeting. And I'll just take a few minutes and uh go through the previous minutes. Um then each of you will have your presentation, um and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control. And then we'll have uh forty minutes for finishing up. Um I'll go through the mee through the minutes first. Um, we just refreshed our our goal making the finest remote control available. Um we decided that, or we know that we need to use company colours, company logo. Um and our Marketing Expert uh gave us some i uh information from interviews with a hundred different remote users. Um with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before. People thought their remotes were ugly, um um that remotes zap a lot. Um they only use uh a finite amount of buttons. Um and that they often lose the it's easy to lose a remote. Um which were all things we were thinking we would wanna make it simple. Um And uh some sort of locator. Either a button or tracking device. Um And that it should look different than what's out there. Um Kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition. The younger people said they wanted it, older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it, and that it was probably a gimmick, that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves. Um Then Robert Jacobs um explored some of the technical functions of the remote. Um the simple versus the um the complex. The simple one being better for a user, the complex better for an engineer. Um Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user-oriented remote, something simple. Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universal remote, because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity. Um we would just have a T_V_ remote. Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote. Have it s be something that looks different. And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work. Um from energy source, um uh what we would use. Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable. Um How that would power the remote and the lamp. If we were to to have one. Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip, which would work with the infrared controls uh to send the signal to the T_V_. Um I believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be. Um Um something that will fit into uh easily into someone's hand. And with a, just a few buttons. Just the basics. And with a scrolling um function also. Okay and I will leave that, leave it at that. So Marketing?
  Eugene Boyes: Okay.
  Robert Lebeau: We're watching trends.
  Eugene Boyes: Can I have your
  Robert Lebeau: I suppose
  Eugene Boyes: cable
  Robert Lebeau: that you can
  Eugene Boyes: please?
  Robert Lebeau: have this.
  Eugene Boyes: Thanks.
  Eugene Boyes: Okay so I was looking at trend-watching. Um unfortunately I wasn't given too much information. I was given a brief executive summary, and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at. And then I'll just tell you some personal preferences that I got from that. Um okay the
  Eugene Boyes: functional look-and-feel design, which I think we've kind of already discussed before. Um the second most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative. And again these are all things we've kind of already come up with on our own, but this just backs it up. And thirdly the remote would be easy to use. As far as fashion update, we've learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths, shoes and furniture. So that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote, but we can try. Um and also, as opposed to last year, this year the material is expected to be spongy in feel. Okay so from that um, as we've already said, we need to focus on a fancy look-and-feel. Um I think we've already discovered that it's kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design. But I think that, even if it's very subtle, we need to kind of trick our consumers, so they at least get the idea that they're getting something that's new and modern and sleek and Whether it's through the shape or the colours or all of that. Um for technologically innovative, we've talked about the tracking device. We brought up the idea of having two pieces, which we could discuss further. And Manuel had suggested um the energy source and the user interface, discussing some of those, um that we could change a little bit. We need to keep it simple, have limited buttons, which I think the two piece idea might be really beneficial for. Um we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables. I don't know, I mean I guess the two options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable.
  Robert Jacobs: Oh it was sort of banana shaped.
  Eugene Boyes: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: A banana shape?
  Eugene Boyes: Yeah. Right. Or with exterior designs. But my question is, I mean the stereotypically speaking, you kind of picture males with their remote controls, and I'm not sure how they'd feel about having fruity logos on the outside. So maybe we could have something that's somewhat removable, or I don't know, different options for female, male target groups. And then the spongy feel. I guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that's out there. C and look at different types of material that might please our users who want spongy-feeling remote controls. So that's that.
  Robert Lebeau: So possibly
  Larry Church: Alright.
  Robert Lebeau: like a uh, sorry, just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones?
  Eugene Boyes: That's what I was thinking
  Robert Jacobs: Those like,
  Eugene Boyes: yeah.
  Robert Jacobs: yeah, sort of spongy
  Robert Lebeau: You have one
  Robert Jacobs: ones.
  Robert Lebeau: with a flag, and one with a banana and one that's a spongy
  Eugene Boyes: Yeah. So
  Robert Lebeau: feel to it.
  Eugene Boyes: when you buy your remote you can buy
  Robert Lebeau: You can
  Eugene Boyes: various coverings.
  Robert Lebeau: Mm various
  Robert Jacobs: What's it called?
  Robert Lebeau: covers.
  Robert Jacobs: Cust you
  Eugene Boyes: Personalise
  Robert Jacobs: personalised,
  Eugene Boyes: your remote.
  Robert Jacobs: yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: We could leave that to the cover department.
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Eugene Boyes: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Lebeau: We all know they've got nothing to do all day.
  Robert Jacobs: Okay. Why can't I see the crazy. Um yeah I talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to, will use the, consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent, um, try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they, the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology, where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question, you program the answer, and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use, where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in, and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well, but there's various different remotes, once again with lots of different buttons on, making it more complicated. So, then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice, there is a voice recognition remote control, which can control mus multiple devices. I have a there is a picture. You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples, controls four devices, T_V_, cable, satellite, V_C_R_, D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels, that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting, where there has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod, which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there, and really is, and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this, which is a a a kid's remote, where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components, maybe it can have more components you know, different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be need to be clear on your um devices, as to what, you know, things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down, which may suggest volume down, could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that, which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think, d carrying on from what I've already said, a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing, where if it was to have a speech recognition thing, you could maybe control that on the do it or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier, as the actual remote. Um I don't it could be a graphical display, the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I Oh yeah. Just. Where are we? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M they've even got things like that. Huge things. Which is just for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah?
  Larry Church: That's industrial design
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: for cranes, stuff like
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: that.
  Eugene Boyes: Dunno.
  Robert Jacobs: And
  Larry Church: Makes
  Robert Jacobs: that
  Larry Church: sense,
  Robert Jacobs: yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: Notice
  Larry Church: makes
  Robert Lebeau: the
  Larry Church: sense.
  Robert Lebeau: giant dog bone shape? Also
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: good for
  Robert Jacobs: See.
  Robert Lebeau: animals.
  Robert Jacobs: things.
  Robert Jacobs: Why's my screen
  Larry Church: Uh
  Robert Jacobs: crazy?
  Larry Church: Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior. Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there, and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design, as you can see there, what we have is the board, main board of the remote control. The underside, that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really top left side you can see the chip, which is the, what we were talking about, this was is the device to recognise the signals the input, and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal, which later on is being, is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself. Its job is to wait for you to press a key, then to translate that key press into infrared light signals, um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it, I don't know if you can see that properly, with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have, don't have cables, but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it. Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side, which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version. Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course, it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell, or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic, rubber, as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would
  Eugene Boyes: Spongy?
  Larry Church: that would serve that purpose. Um we could also use wood, or titanium.
  Robert Lebeau: What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium?
  Larry Church: Oh fya I don't have an information on that. However our company obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium, so I assume, I'm, I was given an okay to use it. It certainly is an expensive material, I'm aware of that, but I was given an okay. But there are certain restrictions to certain materials. Now let's first go through the list with the materials. So we what we can use is plastic, rubber, wood and titanium. Can also mix these. Um as for the energy source, um we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting. Um what we could use is, or what I was offered, or what we could use, is a basic bateer battery. Right? Uh a dynamo. Interestingly enough. Um we could use solar cells. Or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy. Such as like watches you know. Where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr uh provides it with with uh some energy. So um obviously I personally have to say that dynamo is
  Robert Jacobs: Mm.
  Larry Church: out of the question really. You don't wanna wind up your remote control before you can use it right? Um solar cell is interesting. May fail though, every here and there.
  Robert Jacobs: Would you have to leave it by the window?
  Larry Church: Mm.
  Robert Jacobs: yeah.
  Larry Church: Yeah couch
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: for a week and yeah mm. Always
  Robert Lebeau: Works
  Larry Church: the
  Robert Lebeau: well in Arizona
  Larry Church: you
  Robert Lebeau: but in
  Larry Church: But
  Robert Lebeau: Edinburgh
  Eugene Boyes: Y probably
  Larry Church: exactly.
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Eugene Boyes: not
  Robert Lebeau: not
  Eugene Boyes: yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: so
  Larry Church: Um the kinetic energy thing um might work, um but the same problem. You leave it lying around and you first have to shake it before it it starts to work. So I'd say what we're stuck with really is um the basic battery. Which also makes a base station basically obsolete. We don't need that then. Um However our interface options are push-buttons. In which uh in the production of which or in manufacture of which um our company is expert. Um However we've discussed that scroll wheels are a better option. And they are possible. We have an okay for scroll wheels. Okay. Um however when it comes to the scroll wheel of the iPod I've one big objection and that is that we have to fit an L_C_D_ into the remote control as well. This however may exclude certain um materials. If you have a squishy uh kind of remote control, then an L_C_D_ screen may be affected by the movement. Hence we might not be able to put it in there. So um There's also restrictions to, when it comes to the chip. If we have a more sophistic uh sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic uh set-up that we that I've just presented, um the chip has to be more s more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well. I don't have any details to, when it comes to the cost but um it will be a significant difference. I'd rather say drop the titanium and therefore let's have a more sophisticated chip, but that's not up to Eugene Boyes to decide really. So that's for the for the scroll wheel. Um it limits our choice and squishy is hip, so I'd say rather not go for for that. Let's see now. Um um solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex um surface or um remote control. But obviously that's not our problem um since we have decided or against solar cells, I assume right?
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Larry Church: Or is
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: anybody still
  Robert Lebeau: No
  Larry Church: alright.
  Robert Lebeau: I think
  Eugene Boyes: No.
  Robert Lebeau: I
  Eugene Boyes: Hmm.
  Robert Lebeau: think batteries are probably the way to go.
  Larry Church: Alright.
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: Uh which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional I assume. Um Um With the titanium um we cannot make it a curved design. We would just be able to make it flat and and um yeah a straight design pretty much. Which I assume would exclude uh some of the more sophisticated versions.
  Robert Jacobs: Would the sort of spongy and the the plasticky thing y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a it is plastic but then they have sort of
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Robert Jacobs: a a
  Eugene Boyes: Like
  Robert Jacobs: s
  Eugene Boyes: a covering.
  Robert Jacobs: a cover on it
  Eugene Boyes: Yeah.
  Robert Jacobs: which is just sort of soft and stuff. So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know in plastic. But then where do people hold it? Just
  Robert Lebeau: Yeah.
  Robert Jacobs: all be sort of spongy.
  Eugene Boyes: The we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts, so they can remove it.
  Robert Jacobs: So you Like the
  Larry Church: You
  Robert Jacobs: iPod?
  Larry Church: can have an L_C_D_ screen. Um but therefore no rubber will be used.
  Robert Jacobs: Right.
  Larry Church: Alright? So plastic yes, titanium yes, but this will of course influence the form. With plastic, as I understand it, you can use any form. Um latex is tricky. Or rubber and um and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form. So the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular, uh add an L_C_D_ screen, and um then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium.
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: Or wood even. Um if you wanna make it a particular shape, use plastic. Add
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: an L_C_D_ screen, add a scroll wheel, that'll be fine. Or make it just push-buttons. Basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options. Maybe not the nicest feel. Or not much
  Robert Lebeau: So
  Larry Church: originality
  Robert Lebeau: the ru
  Larry Church: really.
  Robert Lebeau: wait the rubbery we can shape it however we want? Or the rubbery we cannot?
  Larry Church: With rubber we could uh sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted
  Robert Lebeau: 'Kay.
  Larry Church: it, but we cannot add scroll wheels, and we cannot
  Robert Lebeau: Mm.
  Larry Church: add an L_C_D_ screen.
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Robert Lebeau: Mm.
  Larry Church: That's the tricky thing.
  Robert Jacobs: Could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen, and then j just sort of that initial shape we had, just which is uh sort of banana-esque. So that's thing if we did it yellow.
  Robert Lebeau: Yeah.
  Robert Jacobs: And um you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit. They wouldn't have any they're just on the exterior. They wouldn't be necessary to the actual shape of the thing.
  Robert Lebeau: Is that an option, a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at
  Larry Church: S
  Robert Lebeau: certain spots?
  Larry Church: Certainly can be done yes. Um yeah. if that doesn't affect
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: the functional side of it all. Like say just the underside or so then it can be done. I assume. Yeah.
  Larry Church: So The fruit design um How about um affecting the surface of the actual um remote control? Say we don't make it p a particular fruit shape
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Larry Church: obviously, but uh give it like the surface of an orange, banana, whatever. You name it.
  Robert Jacobs: Mm.
  Robert Lebeau: What
  Larry Church: Just
  Robert Lebeau: about a
  Larry Church: design-wise.
  Robert Lebeau: smell? T to the remote?
  Larry Church: Mm. Nice one.
  Robert Jacobs: You could just sell it in different colours as well I suppose. In different
  Eugene Boyes: Bright
  Robert Jacobs: ye
  Eugene Boyes: citrus
  Robert Jacobs: yellows.
  Eugene Boyes: colours yeah.
  Larry Church: Mm.
  Robert Jacobs: I don't suppose we have to stick to
  Larry Church: Well
  Robert Jacobs: co
  Larry Church: we we're supposed to stick
  Robert Jacobs: Stick
  Larry Church: to
  Robert Jacobs: to the colours yeah.
  Larry Church: the
  Eugene Boyes: Oh yeah.
  Larry Church: company colours
  Eugene Boyes: Yellow
  Larry Church: though,
  Eugene Boyes: and
  Larry Church: that's
  Eugene Boyes: grey.
  Larry Church: yellow and grey.
  Robert Lebeau: Yellow and grey.
  Larry Church: So what have we, lemon, banana, is
  Robert Jacobs: Mm grapefruit.
  Robert Lebeau: Grapefruit.
  Larry Church: Grapefruit is what we'd go for, when it comes to the outer appearance perhaps. But mm.
  Robert Lebeau: I would say, if I were to make a decision, I would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: lower end of the spectrum of of importance. Um
  Eugene Boyes: I think having a shape could be a little ridiculous, like
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: Well we have it banana-shaped
  Eugene Boyes: Well we kinda
  Larry Church: already,
  Eugene Boyes: do yeah.
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: kind of. So
  Robert Lebeau: Well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: fruit-minded remote
  Eugene Boyes: And if it's yellow?
  Robert Lebeau: buyer.
  Larry Church: Right.
  Robert Jacobs: and if it if it was done yellow, which
  Robert Lebeau: It's
  Robert Jacobs: is a company
  Robert Lebeau: it's yellow.
  Robert Jacobs: colour.
  Larry Church: I it's yellow.
  Robert Lebeau: It's
  Eugene Boyes: Grey buttons
  Robert Lebeau: curved.
  Eugene Boyes: yeah.
  Larry Church: Well so why
  Robert Lebeau: It's
  Larry Church: not add
  Robert Lebeau: sort
  Larry Church: a couple
  Robert Lebeau: of
  Larry Church: of grey stripes and make
  Robert Lebeau: couple
  Larry Church: it look
  Robert Lebeau: of
  Larry Church: like a banana?
  Robert Lebeau: couple
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: of grey stripes. We could put the grey stripes on the bottom so that that person
  Robert Jacobs: On the
  Robert Lebeau: could turn
  Robert Jacobs: the gr
  Robert Lebeau: it
  Robert Jacobs: the
  Robert Lebeau: over.
  Robert Jacobs: rubbery grips could be
  Robert Lebeau: It would look like
  Robert Jacobs: grey.
  Robert Lebeau: a banana
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Robert Lebeau: just sitting on their table.
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: There you go.
  Robert Lebeau: Rather than rather th
  Robert Jacobs: It could and then you could actually h put the banana-shaped thing on the fruit bowl,
  Eugene Boyes: Oh.
  Robert Jacobs: on the coffee table, and then people would always know where it was.
  Robert Lebeau: Maybe the holder,
  Eugene Boyes: Nice.
  Robert Lebeau: if we were
  Eugene Boyes: Could
  Robert Lebeau: to have
  Eugene Boyes: look
  Robert Lebeau: a
  Eugene Boyes: like
  Robert Lebeau: holder,
  Eugene Boyes: a fruit
  Robert Lebeau: it could
  Eugene Boyes: bowl.
  Robert Lebeau: be shaped
  Larry Church: It could
  Robert Lebeau: like
  Larry Church: be
  Robert Lebeau: a fruit.
  Larry Church: an ape.
  Robert Lebeau: Could
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: be, it could be an ape or a fruit bowl. we
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: could have a variety of options here.
  Eugene Boyes: 'Kay.
  Larry Church: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: Do you have more to your presentation?
  Larry Church: That's pretty much it. I informed you about the materials,
  Robert Lebeau: Oh.
  Larry Church: what the interior has to look like, and what the limitations to certain materials are on there you go.
  Robert Lebeau: Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick.
  Larry Church: Sure.
  Robert Lebeau: If
  Larry Church: Hang on.
  Robert Lebeau: I could.
  Larry Church: There you go.
  Robert Lebeau: Um ow. Ow.
  Eugene Boyes: So is the two piece idea out? Or have we not decided?
  Robert Jacobs: Well we sort of rid of that because gonna use a battery. And the base station might not be necessary.
  Eugene Boyes: Oh right okay.
  Larry Church: Well we can still design a two-piece
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: uh remote um without having a base, having one of them be a base station,
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Larry Church: but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions, or you take
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Larry Church: out the smaller piece. We can still do that. However of course this would be like designing two remotes pretty much.
  Robert Lebeau: Mm-hmm.
  Larry Church: So um which then, as I understand it, would probably limit the, limit again the the the use of certain materials, because they would be too expensive. Say like have a scroll wheel and uh on both of them, or have an L_C_D_ screen and so on so on.
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Larry Church: You'd probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button design which we saw there.
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Larry Church: But could be done, of course.
  Robert Lebeau: Okay. Uh so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting. Um for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source, um the chip-on-print, and the case. Probably case um material. And probably a shape also. Um and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the tape, what, what the type is. And what kind of supplements we'll have. Um Energy source I think we've, I think we've decided batteries, although not exciting, are probably our best bet.
  Larry Church: Right.
  Robert Lebeau: And we have five minutes.
  Larry Church: Okay when it comes to the chip-on-print, as I said, the the more advanced features you want, um the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive. Uh if you want just a normal button version, the chip-on-print
  Eugene Boyes: Mm.
  Larry Church: is gonna be a cheap one. Right?
  Robert Lebeau: 'Kay. So Um I guess we should pick the case then. If we go with the plasticky case, or the the plastic case, um then the chip-on-print is still kind of, we could have either or. We could have a complex one or a a non-complex.
  Larry Church: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: But did we decide that the rubbery feel was important enough to us?
  Eugene Boyes: Well what about what you said, like putting
  Robert Jacobs: Just
  Eugene Boyes: the
  Robert Jacobs: just
  Eugene Boyes: finger
  Robert Jacobs: maybe
  Eugene Boyes: grips
  Robert Jacobs: yeah.
  Eugene Boyes: just on
  Robert Jacobs: Just
  Eugene Boyes: top
  Robert Jacobs: a little
  Eugene Boyes: of the plastic?
  Robert Jacobs: bit of.
  Robert Lebeau: Okay. So we would, we would have the L_C_D_ screen?
  Larry Church: as long as the pla uh the rubber is nowhere near the controls, yes.
  Robert Lebeau: 'Kay. So I guess the case would be plastic, with Perhaps that's not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it. It's
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Robert Lebeau: more of a su it's more of a supplement maybe.
  Eugene Boyes: Yeah.
  Larry Church: M more of a l lamination perhaps.
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah.
  Eugene Boyes: So then for the scroll, are we going for the iPod type?
  Robert Jacobs: Yeah I think so.
  Eugene Boyes: Yeah?
  Robert Jacobs: I think.
  Eugene Boyes: Okay.
  Robert Lebeau: Which will require a more expensive chip-on-print right?
  Larry Church: Yes. It does.
  Robert Lebeau: 'Kay. So
  Robert Lebeau: I guess that, is that, is that about it? So we have a good idea of what we're gonna need to to do on this?
  Larry Church: Right.
  Robert Lebeau: Um okay so we will have another meeting in thirty minutes. Um Here's what's gonna be going on. Um Um Ryan you'll be working on the user interface design. Um Manuel you'll be working on the look-and-feel design.
  Larry Church: Right.
  Robert Lebeau: Corrine we'll want a product evaluation. And the two of you get to play with the uh modelling components and uh maybe and and get us a prototype. Which should go along well with your look-and-feel design and your interface. So that basically just be working on the prototype, uh we'll accomplish your other two actions.
  Robert Lebeau: Alright. Okay. Let's do it.
Updated Content: Robert Lebeau reviewed the minutes of the previous meeting. Eugene Boyes discussed the results of trend watching reports which indicated a need for products which have a fancy look and feel, are technologically innovative, easy to use, include a fruit and vegetable theme, and are spongy in feel. Eugene Boyes stressed the need to incorporate these findings into the team's design and suggested that the team should create a remote that has limited buttons , can be personalized, and is not rectangular. Robert Jacobs briefly described how speech recognition technology works and what ways a user can use a remote. Robert Jacobs presented three existing products on the market - a voice recognition remote, an iPod, and a children's remote - and discussed a few features to include in the team's design. Larry Church discussed the interior workings of a remote and the restrictions involved in combining various components, energy sources, and materials. Larry Church also discussed with the how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into their design. The team then discussed and decided what components, materials, and energy sources to use.