Extracted Content: David Minshall: Okay. Oh I totally Yeah 'cause I moved it. 'S put it over here. Then we don't have to worry about it.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Ready for this?
  Jim Stello: All set? Cool. Alright, it is PowerPoint time. I've done more PowerPoints in this particular experiment than I've ever done in my life before this experiment
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: which is kind of fun.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Oh man.
  Jim Stello: So uh here we have our detailed design meeting where we will um look at the prototype and um right so um, I finally figured out what this whole second bullet point is about in my that my coach was sending to David Minshall. It means I'm supposed to read the minutes from the previous meeting.
  Thomas Kaleta: Oh really? Okay.
  Jim Stello: I think.
  David Minshall: Huh.
  Jim Stello: I don't know. Otherwise it's just saying I'm the secretary and I'm therefore I'm taking the minutes, s so just to go um just real briefly to go over minutes from last meeting, uh, I will open them slowly, no? Wait for it, wait for it.
  David Minshall: Yeah that's not you.
  Jim Stello: No. That's how the Wait. This is, this is very high-powered stuff here, double-clicking, there we go. So um basically the moral of the story from our last minute uh last meeting was that um we that we had meetings from uh we had presentations done by Thomas Kaleta, uh or from Nathan, and Ron and from Sarah about what we can do here um and what sort of limitations we're operating with um uh excuse David Minshall what limitations we're operating under, what kind of risk we'd be looking at with some of the various approaches we were discussing and we essentially came to the conclusion that we should develop a remote with uh voice recognition, I_E_ that had a vaguely non-remote like shape um because you didn't really need to use it as a remote since you could just use your voice. That would include some mostly just the simple design features for a television operation but with a slide or a fold-out bay for more advanced functions for users. Um, and uh the uh uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ were asked to go ahead and start developing a prototype for us to look at. So. That's sorted, back to the main meet here, um, go ahead and take it away guys.
  Thomas Kaleta: Well. Uh, we have assembled our prototype, um. What's to be said about it? Um, we took into account a lot of the things that we went over in the last meeting, um. Some of the most important things to consider are that we decided not to go for the touch screen which you can see
  Jim Stello: Mm-hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: and opted for some very large buttons for the primary functions, um. This is going to be the on off button and have these buttons to go through the channels um and then two volume buttons down here, d uh we decided those were the most important uh buttons. And then, for the more advanced uh functions there is a slide out panel here um and you can see that there are lots of other things going on. But this actually can slide back in and provides a very nice aesthetic when it's all put away, um. As far as the uh whole visible light thing, we decided to go with the
  David Minshall: Ah.
  Thomas Kaleta: multiple colours coming out,
  Jim Stello: Nice.
  Thomas Kaleta: why not?
  David Minshall: Fair enough.
  Thomas Kaleta: Of course, if that's annoying for some people that function can be turned off.
  Jim Stello: Perfect.
  Thomas Kaleta: Um.
  Cornelius Gonzales: No
  Thomas Kaleta: Go ahead.
  Cornelius Gonzales: it's important to we talked a quite a bit about uh you know the the interchangeable uh faces
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: and what we've done here is come up with a bit of a natural look here um f
  David Minshall: Right.
  Cornelius Gonzales: we call it fruity if you will.
  David Minshall: Appropriate,
  Cornelius Gonzales: Um.
  David Minshall: okay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Right, um, of course that's uh interchangeable and uh I think it would be desirable for the uh for the regular product in the in the in the
  David Minshall: Mm 'kay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: in first to be something a little bit more subdued but this is kind of something that can be done
  David Minshall: It is an option.
  Cornelius Gonzales: um and as you can see on the television there uh we have the uh voice detector device
  Jim Stello: Oh, right.
  Cornelius Gonzales: um on
  Thomas Kaleta: That's
  Cornelius Gonzales: the
  Thomas Kaleta: this
  Cornelius Gonzales: top
  Thomas Kaleta: here.
  Cornelius Gonzales: there.
  David Minshall: Ah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Um.
  David Minshall: I see.
  Cornelius Gonzales: So that that will work quite well with with regard to finding this uh contraption. Um, what other things do we see here, well, um if you give it a touch it does have actually a bit of a spongy feel, um, so I think that will work well with regards to our market. Um and uh let's see, well clearly there's gonna be some more colours and what not available. Um uh do you have anything else to add to that?
  Thomas Kaleta: Um I worried about the materials, it is uh the entire thing is covered in a rubber coating so it's very durable uh, it's not gonna break like some types of plastic that's dropped. Um, and of course as you can see and if you touch it it does have that nice squishy feel.
  Cornelius Gonzales: It's actually important to note that the television, uh you know if there's an earthquake or anything like that, that i it actually is edible inside.
  Thomas Kaleta: Fact, I dunno if you noticed, but I wrote the uh the company's name
  Jim Stello: Oh
  Thomas Kaleta: on the telephone
  Jim Stello: well
  Thomas Kaleta: screen,
  Jim Stello: done
  David Minshall: Nice.
  Thomas Kaleta: I thought
  Jim Stello: yeah,
  Thomas Kaleta: that was kinda
  Jim Stello: yeah
  Thomas Kaleta: nice.
  Jim Stello: oh
  Thomas Kaleta: This
  Jim Stello: ok
  Thomas Kaleta: was actually an apple on the inside.
  David Minshall: Do we need
  Thomas Kaleta: This
  David Minshall: to worry about um rot factors?
  Cornelius Gonzales: Um it's encased in a new uh type of uh
  David Minshall: Oh okay, there's preservatives
  Cornelius Gonzales: polymer
  David Minshall: involved,
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: we don't
  Cornelius Gonzales: yeah.
  David Minshall: need to worry,
  Cornelius Gonzales: It's
  Thomas Kaleta: We
  Cornelius Gonzales: fine.
  David Minshall: okay.
  Thomas Kaleta: got a bit ahead of ourselves, I know we're not
  Cornelius Gonzales: Hmm.
  David Minshall: Fair
  Thomas Kaleta: talking
  David Minshall: enough.
  Thomas Kaleta: about making televisions at this point
  Jim Stello: Edible
  Thomas Kaleta: or anything
  Jim Stello: televisions,
  Thomas Kaleta: like
  David Minshall: No
  Thomas Kaleta: that, but
  Jim Stello: it's a
  David Minshall: but
  Jim Stello: wave of the future.
  David Minshall: It's a
  Cornelius Gonzales: It's
  David Minshall: couple
  Cornelius Gonzales: pos
  David Minshall: years off at least.
  Cornelius Gonzales: a possible new
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: product. Um, but I think that's I think that sums up the main features of our of the remote, um
  Jim Stello: Brilliant.
  Thomas Kaleta: Right.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I dunno if you guys have any questions or f whether that uh whether we need to worry about any uh other marketing areas or anything of that nature. Um, did we come in under budget?
  Thomas Kaleta: Uh we did, yeah. This cost well to put this into um production, we're looking at about what was our goal? It was twelve fifty Euro um and this actually came in at about eleven ninety nine. Um, so I was quite pleased with that.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Mm-hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: One thing that we didn't do um obviously we had a choice with the buttons whether to use scroll buttons or standard rubber buttons, but we just went for a classic rubber button
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: and um since we did that we didn't have to use as many microchips which was quite nice and that's what helped keep the cost down.
  Jim Stello: Brilliant.
  Thomas Kaleta: So even though it has
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: a lot of modern technology, um for example the voice recognition, in a lot of ways it's just a simple remote
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Thomas Kaleta: and um
  Cornelius Gonzales: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: I think if we shopped around for other manufacturers um we might be able to get even cheaper.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Did
  Thomas Kaleta: And
  Cornelius Gonzales: we talk about the voice recognition uh option?
  Thomas Kaleta: Oh no, we haven't talked
  Cornelius Gonzales: So
  Thomas Kaleta: about that yet
  Cornelius Gonzales: uh
  Thomas Kaleta: have we?
  Cornelius Gonzales: so uh yeah on the back here you all noticed this area here which is actually the voice recognition uh
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: uh console and uh I think it's nicely designed into the into the overall
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: look. Um, but basically the voice recognition uh incorporates um the latest designs that our research team has been able to cufw uh come up with. Basically uh quite similar to the coffee maker
  David Minshall: Mm
  Cornelius Gonzales: um
  David Minshall: 'kay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: design that we were talking about earlier and um, I think that uh has given a proven um ease of use and
  Thomas Kaleta: Hmm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: what not.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: And uh allows features like the remote actually talking back to the user
  David Minshall: Right.
  Cornelius Gonzales: um, so.
  Jim Stello: Cool.
  Thomas Kaleta: Any questions?
  Jim Stello: No, no I think that's
  David Minshall: Do we have um other, for lack of a better word, skins? Covers? In play now or are those ones gonna be developed later once we see how the couple we have g go or?
  Thomas Kaleta: Um, do you
  David Minshall: Do
  Thomas Kaleta: wanna
  David Minshall: we
  Thomas Kaleta: answer
  David Minshall: know
  Thomas Kaleta: this
  David Minshall: where we
  Thomas Kaleta: one
  David Minshall: stand
  Thomas Kaleta: or do you want
  David Minshall: on
  Thomas Kaleta: David Minshall to
  David Minshall: that
  Thomas Kaleta: answer
  David Minshall: yet?
  Thomas Kaleta: it?
  Cornelius Gonzales: Well we didn't quite have enough material uh.
  David Minshall: Oh I wasn't expecting a prototype
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah,
  David Minshall: I just
  Cornelius Gonzales: Oh
  David Minshall: didn't
  Cornelius Gonzales: I see,
  David Minshall: know if you
  Thomas Kaleta: yeah.
  David Minshall: guys had any in mind
  Cornelius Gonzales: right,
  David Minshall: yet.
  Thomas Kaleta: Um,
  Cornelius Gonzales: um.
  Thomas Kaleta: well as you can see this is just a most superficial layer and um it'd be very easy to
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Thomas Kaleta: put another layer
  David Minshall: Just
  Thomas Kaleta: of
  David Minshall: veneer
  Thomas Kaleta: something else
  David Minshall: really, yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: like
  Cornelius Gonzales: Right.
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Actually this bottom red ring here just unclips
  David Minshall: Mm-hmm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: and then you put
  David Minshall: And the
  Cornelius Gonzales: a
  David Minshall: whole
  Cornelius Gonzales: a new
  David Minshall: thing
  Cornelius Gonzales: a new uh
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: a new plate on top of that.
  David Minshall: Right.
  Cornelius Gonzales: So I mean there are I we definitely
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: priced out
  David Minshall: There's
  Cornelius Gonzales: a spongy even spongier non-natural look
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: um materials which I think worked out fine. We also continued
  David Minshall: Mm 'kay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: on with the ideas that f following uh Apple's colour schemes
  David Minshall: Okay,
  Cornelius Gonzales: with the kind of the
  David Minshall: very
  Cornelius Gonzales: uh
  David Minshall: cool.
  Cornelius Gonzales: light orange and
  Thomas Kaleta: It's
  Cornelius Gonzales: the
  Thomas Kaleta: not
  Cornelius Gonzales: green.
  Thomas Kaleta: it's not quite a a face plate, it's more like a pseudo-face plate
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Thomas Kaleta: because it's simple enough that in the factory it could we could very easily put a different one on it, it locks into place such that, you know, it's pretty permanent but at the same time, if we wanna go the other way it's just a matter of a couple of adjustments and we could go
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Thomas Kaleta: the face plate way if you know what I mean.
  David Minshall: Yep. It's still an option if we
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: need it. Very cool, nice job.
  Jim Stello: Right, yeah thanks guys that's very, very good work. I like it, brilliant. Um, what we need to discuss now is the finance of it, um I got David Minshall you've got you provided a number that actually sounds quite nice. Um the trouble is I was just given this by finance.
  Thomas Kaleta: Oh.
  Jim Stello: Um, it's a spreadsheet of the parts and I've just tentatively put in what it's going to
  Thomas Kaleta: Ooh.
  Jim Stello: look like um. I'm just gonna clear this out real quickly, but it looks like So we'll just if we can just itemize what's in here, we've got this it's a solar cell thing right?
  Thomas Kaleta: Right uh
  Jim Stello: With
  Thomas Kaleta: we
  Jim Stello: a
  Thomas Kaleta: didn't
  Jim Stello: back-up
  Thomas Kaleta: really touch
  Jim Stello: battery?
  Thomas Kaleta: on that but it it's in there, yep.
  Jim Stello: With the ba okay. Um and
  Cornelius Gonzales: The voice recognition area actually doubles as uh as the solar cell area.
  Jim Stello: Clever,
  Cornelius Gonzales: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: clever, well done. Um so I guess that would mean we've got a bit of a um It's a s a speaker and a sensor at the same time isn't it?
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah, yeah. It's just making use of the same space and
  David Minshall: Mm-hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: the same materials,
  Jim Stello: Okay.
  Thomas Kaleta: but
  Jim Stello: Um and the case, it's more of a single-curved case, I guess would be that be the general
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah, one big
  David Minshall: Mm-hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: curve I guess you could say.
  Jim Stello: Um and we've got a rubber skin material basically throughout. Um. Push button interface um with this other drop-down so maybe we've got two push button interfaces don't
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah,
  Jim Stello: we?
  Thomas Kaleta: mm-hmm.
  Jim Stello: Um. And um a special I guess it's uh we've got a sort of a wood materi a rubbery type material
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah, special.
  Jim Stello: that throughout, yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: And s I guess you have to mark special colour and special form as well, don't you? 'Cause it i it is very unconventional,
  Jim Stello: Yeah, it's it's
  Thomas Kaleta: I like
  Jim Stello: quite
  Thomas Kaleta: to think
  Jim Stello: unique.
  Thomas Kaleta: of it as
  Jim Stello: I
  Thomas Kaleta: unconventional.
  Jim Stello: like it, yeah it's So it looks like
  David Minshall: M come in at sixteen?
  Jim Stello: a bit over
  Thomas Kaleta: Oh.
  Jim Stello: budget,
  Thomas Kaleta: Huh,
  Jim Stello: um.
  Thomas Kaleta: doesn't match up does it?
  Jim Stello: So what we could do perhaps, a simple fix would maybe to switch away from the solar cells um or take out the back-up battery.
  Thomas Kaleta: How do
  Jim Stello: Uh
  Thomas Kaleta: you feel about that?
  Cornelius Gonzales: I mean I think that uh if we're talking about it being one of our main selling features, being environmental and without the batteries and what not, although it does still have a battery so I'm not sure that
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: you know what the sell is on that.
  Thomas Kaleta: I mean we could take we could take the battery out of it you see and it'd probably work ninety nine per cent of the time but you're gonna have to set up a call centre for that one per cent of the time when people are calling and saying oh look my remote isn't working what
  Jim Stello: Mm-hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: am I
  David Minshall: Mm
  Thomas Kaleta: gonna do?
  David Minshall: k.
  Jim Stello: Mm-hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: People'd be real upset. I
  David Minshall: True.
  Thomas Kaleta: think in the long-run it's better to keep the battery, it's hard to scrap the whole cell battery idea 'cause that's so integral to the theme that we have.
  Jim Stello: Hmm.
  Jim Stello: What's difficult, we have all these things integral to the um to the design
  David Minshall: Nah.
  Jim Stello: of it that we just can't back out of now, it would have to be seems like we'd have to go back to square one in a way. Um if we were gonna try to undo one bit we'd probably have to undo most of it,
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: um
  David Minshall: Although we don't wanna get rid of the whole environmental I mean obviously the solar cell is a big piece of the way we're marketing this as like a natural, new thing, but honestly if we cut that one piece out we're actually coming in under budget if I've done my math correctly.
  Thomas Kaleta: Hmm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I mean you might
  David Minshall: I mean
  Cornelius Gonzales: be able to sway David Minshall on the idea that we our main selling point could be already this voice recognition thing I mean that's
  David Minshall: Which,
  Cornelius Gonzales: what sets
  David Minshall: it's
  Cornelius Gonzales: us apart right?
  David Minshall: yeah that's what setting us into this young market, I mean that's where we started from, so I don't know, and I mean you know perhaps when the cell technology comes down in price we can bring that back into the game but it looks like at this point that may be out of our league.
  Cornelius Gonzales: And the reality
  Thomas Kaleta: Right.
  Cornelius Gonzales: is you know, for David Minshall from an ideological stand point, I'd like to stick with the uh the solar cell, but I h kind of have to throw myself
  David Minshall: Right.
  Cornelius Gonzales: in the in the business structure model
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: here and
  Thomas Kaleta: Right.
  Cornelius Gonzales: uh you know I think
  Jim Stello: It's either or.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I think that
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I think that we need to come to a compromise here and maybe move ahead with the project, without the solar cell.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: I think
  Thomas Kaleta: I guess
  David Minshall: unfortunately
  Thomas Kaleta: we might have to
  David Minshall: that's
  Thomas Kaleta: do
  David Minshall: our best
  Thomas Kaleta: that.
  David Minshall: option.
  Thomas Kaleta: It's the only way we're gonna get below our uh goal isn't it?
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: Of twelve fifty.
  Jim Stello: 'Cause we can't remove the push buttons 'cause they're
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah,
  David Minshall: It kind
  Jim Stello: um
  David Minshall: of yeah.
  Jim Stello: and we can't get rid of the uh I mean removing the changing the case wouldn't be so much of a
  Cornelius Gonzales: Savings.
  Jim Stello: mm-mm, um,
  David Minshall: Mm-mm.
  Jim Stello: nor would changing the case materials. Um. So yeah that looks like to be the only thing.
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: So that would be the it's a major change but Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: Gotta
  Jim Stello: Alright,
  Thomas Kaleta: do what you gotta do.
  Jim Stello: so we're in agreement on that.
  David Minshall: Unfortunately I think we are.
  Cornelius Gonzales: No, I think that was a good compromise you brought forward Sarah.
  Jim Stello: Right. Moving along swiftly. Um, so I guess now we just go to the project evaluation which I will allow Sarah to take
  David Minshall: That
  Jim Stello: over.
  David Minshall: would be David Minshall. Um cord?
  Jim Stello: Ah of course, sorry.
  David Minshall: No problem.
  Jim Stello: Whoosh.
  David Minshall: Can you reach, that
  Cornelius Gonzales: Yep.
  David Minshall: would be great, thank you.
  Jim Stello: That'd be great
  David Minshall: I didn't even do that one on purpose either, damn. Okay, um, basically I was just evaluating um from what we know of how our product's working right now with the criteria that we set at the beginning of these are the things we needed to do, these are the things that look like we feel they're important. Um so I was looking at basic design things, does it fulfil its functions as a remote? Is the design what we wanted it to do? I are technologies up to where we hoped they would be and does it fulfil the aesthetic qualities that our original market research was looking for? Um. Basic questions like, you know, does it turn on? Does it respond to voice recognition? And overall, in general, it looks like it's coming up to par.
  Thomas Kaleta: Mm.
  David Minshall: Um, the only thing is with with the pull-out panel, that is, can it take some adjusting because it's a new sort of interface, um that looked like it was coming up rough, but then, once you get used to it, it does make a lot of sense. So I think overall we're headed in the right direction.
  Thomas Kaleta: Really good.
  David Minshall: So.
  Cornelius Gonzales: They like that spongy feel.
  David Minshall: Yeah. It looks like it's going over well,
  Cornelius Gonzales: And
  David Minshall: so
  Cornelius Gonzales: the paging
  Thomas Kaleta: Six?
  Cornelius Gonzales: function works well, that's
  David Minshall: we're
  Cornelius Gonzales: good to hear,
  David Minshall: we're good
  Cornelius Gonzales: we
  David Minshall: yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: worked hard on that one.
  Thomas Kaleta: We
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: did.
  David Minshall: It's I think eventually if we do um branch out with this product maybe we do have a higher budget options and if it goes over with this model we can look into um wider range voice recognition like from other rooms of the house and stuff, but for now, what we've got is working in the range we need it for, so it's all good.
  Jim Stello: Brilliant.
  Thomas Kaleta: I am bit
  David Minshall: That's
  Thomas Kaleta: disappointed
  David Minshall: everything from
  Thomas Kaleta: about
  David Minshall: David Minshall.
  Thomas Kaleta: losing the solar panel
  Jim Stello: Hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: but
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: it's okay. Mm.
  David Minshall: Yeah, it is a set-back, but Okay, do you need the cord back?
  Cornelius Gonzales: W we might
  Jim Stello: Um
  Cornelius Gonzales: have
  Jim Stello: yeah,
  Cornelius Gonzales: uh
  Jim Stello: I was just
  Cornelius Gonzales: we
  Jim Stello: go on.
  Cornelius Gonzales: might have lost that granola market again that
  Thomas Kaleta: I
  Cornelius Gonzales: we're
  Thomas Kaleta: know.
  Jim Stello: Well they don't own tellys anyway do they?
  Cornelius Gonzales: I guess
  Thomas Kaleta: True.
  Cornelius Gonzales: that's true.
  Jim Stello: Right. So, um, this one's a bit unclear to David Minshall to be perfectly fair, um. I got this slide from the coach and I'm not sure what it's connected to. Um so I guess we are going to discuss um our project process um and that is gonna go into my report. So I guess this is the point where we go um uh out of role it looks like and talk about our satisfaction for room for creativity and so forth and
  Thomas Kaleta: Okay.
  Jim Stello: how that all worked, I guess, um.
  David Minshall: As in within the team
  Jim Stello: I think
  David Minshall: or?
  Jim Stello: so yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: Right so it's
  David Minshall: Okay.
  Thomas Kaleta: just kind of a
  Jim Stello: I think
  Thomas Kaleta: open
  Jim Stello: it's
  Thomas Kaleta: mic kind of thing or
  Jim Stello: I mm-hmm, I think so.
  Thomas Kaleta: 'Kay.
  Jim Stello: I think
  David Minshall: It is now, you're in charge
  Jim Stello: hope
  David Minshall: so there you go.
  Jim Stello: I'm not screwing up an experiment. But I trust that she would jump in if I was so okay fair enough.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: Whatever.
  Jim Stello: Um right, um so any thoughts?
  Thomas Kaleta: Are we considering
  David Minshall: Um.
  Thomas Kaleta: these points here?
  Jim Stello: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: Okay.
  David Minshall: I think they're starting blocks yeah.
  Jim Stello: What do you guys feel about the process?
  David Minshall: Um, you know I think in general, for a day's worth of work we actually were relatively productive, considering the little amount of input we had going in.
  Jim Stello: Mm-hmm.
  David Minshall: Um, and the technology has definitely been a help, it's really been interesting to try out all this new stuff.
  Cornelius Gonzales: We didn't use the whiteboard at all.
  Thomas Kaleta: No.
  Jim Stello: No,
  David Minshall: No,
  Jim Stello: no
  David Minshall: we
  Jim Stello: whiteboard.
  David Minshall: didn't. We could now if that'd make up for it but really
  Cornelius Gonzales: And
  David Minshall: and I feel like if you guys had been designing in here perhaps that would have changed but because of room constraints, doesn't really matter.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Um, also had I not been intrigued about the pen, I don't think I woulda used it at all, I didn't write barely anything.
  David Minshall: Yeah I think I was taking notes more often than usual just 'cause
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah,
  David Minshall: I liked the pen,
  Thomas Kaleta: it's true.
  David Minshall: yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Uh.
  Thomas Kaleta: Mm.
  Jim Stello: Was pretty cool tack though.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Yeah.
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: Definitely.
  David Minshall: I am disappointed I didn't get a note back from my personal coach.
  Thomas Kaleta: As you write your personal coach.
  David Minshall: Yeah, but I didn't get a response so we'll see.
  Thomas Kaleta: What if you get a response two or three months from now?
  David Minshall: Okay
  Thomas Kaleta: That'd
  David Minshall: that
  Thomas Kaleta: be
  David Minshall: would
  Thomas Kaleta: weird.
  David Minshall: be kinda creepy.
  Jim Stello: Attempts to contact coach ineffective.
  David Minshall: Well what kind of coaching is that really? What if I really needed something.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I so I don't n I think there was a lot of room for creativity, we could do whatever basically
  David Minshall: I think so.
  Cornelius Gonzales: what we wanted until the budget came down on us, um.
  David Minshall: And even then we did get a decent product turned out although it's not everything we wanted it to be.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: With the natural look.
  Thomas Kaleta: That's very natural.
  Jim Stello: Very natural look.
  David Minshall: Organic, really.
  Jim Stello: That's the brilliance of they had a p they had a peeler in here.
  David Minshall: And highly resourceful team mates might I add
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: which is always a plus.
  Jim Stello: Yeah, I think, yeah re I thought it was like really creative actually, I mean.
  David Minshall: Mm yeah,
  Cornelius Gonzales: I
  David Minshall: I'm impressed.
  Cornelius Gonzales: think the teamwork was good
  Thomas Kaleta: And to
  Cornelius Gonzales: as
  Thomas Kaleta: prove
  Cornelius Gonzales: well.
  Thomas Kaleta: that we weren't wasteful we didn't waste a single bit of Play-Doh, we used every bit.
  David Minshall: Nice. All four of those little containers.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah,
  Jim Stello: Including
  Thomas Kaleta: I guess
  Jim Stello: the s the multi-coloured wave pattern.
  Thomas Kaleta: My one my one criticism is that we didn't have enough colours to work with, we only had four,
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: wasn't enough.
  David Minshall: You could have developed multiple skins really had
  Thomas Kaleta: I know
  David Minshall: you had
  Thomas Kaleta: it
  David Minshall: more colours.
  Thomas Kaleta: could have been amazing.
  David Minshall: Oh well.
  Jim Stello: What did you guys think about the the the roles?
  Thomas Kaleta: Hmm.
  David Minshall: They were good.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah it's f kind of fun,
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: it was I think it was pretty clever 'cause we were never able to get too far off track because the information came in at the right time and
  David Minshall: True.
  Thomas Kaleta: kind of filled in the gaps enough. At the same time you had enough room to kind of just make things up,
  David Minshall: Do your own.
  Thomas Kaleta: which was kind of fun.
  David Minshall: Though I did feel like th the level of information dropped off severely over the course of the day.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: I mean maybe it's just David Minshall but I didn't actually get any information for the last presentation at all.
  Jim Stello: That's true,
  David Minshall: Nothing,
  Jim Stello: I I got this spreadsheet.
  David Minshall: I didn't even get an email, like that was it. So, yeah, I feel like that was slightly lacking but then you know, fill in the blanks on your own, level of creativity upped.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Well
  David Minshall: Whatever.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I think that was I think that was an issue I kept finding with regard to
  Jim Stello: Of what to do.
  Cornelius Gonzales: well no but also yeah when I was reporting about what each of us was doing I was often
  Thomas Kaleta: Mm.
  David Minshall: Mm-hmm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: confused as to what you were doing
  David Minshall: Uh-huh, that wasn't very much.
  Thomas Kaleta: You know
  Cornelius Gonzales: felt
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: like you know a lot of our discussion would centre around n specifically what my task was because that was kind of the interface
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: portion which was what
  David Minshall: Yes.
  Cornelius Gonzales: the whole project was about
  Jim Stello: Mm, mm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: uh
  David Minshall: Hmm, very much so.
  Cornelius Gonzales: but and then in the end I think our jobs kind of melded together a
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: little bit more,
  Thomas Kaleta: That was fun.
  Cornelius Gonzales: which
  Thomas Kaleta: I think
  Cornelius Gonzales: was fine.
  Thomas Kaleta: the most helpful thing out of everything was getting the the PowerPoint slides already put together
  Cornelius Gonzales: Mm-hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: for you
  David Minshall: Yeah,
  Thomas Kaleta: 'cause if
  David Minshall: already
  Thomas Kaleta: we didn't
  David Minshall: having
  Thomas Kaleta: have
  David Minshall: the
  Thomas Kaleta: that
  David Minshall: formatted stuff
  Thomas Kaleta: there's
  David Minshall: helped
  Thomas Kaleta: no way
  David Minshall: a
  Thomas Kaleta: we
  David Minshall: lot.
  Thomas Kaleta: could have got all that done in time.
  David Minshall: Very much so.
  Jim Stello: Cool.
  Cornelius Gonzales: And I think your leadership was quite good.
  Thomas Kaleta: It was
  David Minshall: Hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: really good yeah.
  Jim Stello: She said I I I she actually made a comment off boy you're getting into this and I really I think it's true I did get I I
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: felt like I got way too into it.
  David Minshall: That's kind of a good thing though,
  Jim Stello: I felt like I
  Thomas Kaleta: It's
  Jim Stello: slipped
  Thomas Kaleta: kinda fun.
  David Minshall: you
  Jim Stello: into
  David Minshall: know,
  Jim Stello: it a lot.
  David Minshall: give the rest of us some structure to work with so hey.
  Jim Stello: I dunno.
  Cornelius Gonzales: An so is that the first time you've taken on that kind of role?
  Jim Stello: The first time I've ever done anything like yeah project project management. I usually
  David Minshall: Hmm.
  Jim Stello: organise crap, it's one thing to do, you know set up a party with your friends,
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: you know?
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: Little different.
  Jim Stello: But you guys felt that you could keep the, yeah, suspension of disbelief kind of like like the role
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: and the okay?
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: I except for a couple moments where it just got out of hand and I knew we were
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: all lying through our teeth, other than that
  Cornelius Gonzales: I had to admit, as soon as w we started I mean as soon as we got the Play-Doh,
  David Minshall: I could only imagine.
  Cornelius Gonzales: th you know the whole concept of really trying to stick with reality went out the window.
  Jim Stello: Yeah, yeah. Maybe in in Legos you know?
  Cornelius Gonzales: Possibly.
  Jim Stello: Be fun with Legos too, like make a remote control or spaceship, we used to have spaceship Legos did you guys ever used to build spaceships
  Cornelius Gonzales: Oh yeah,
  Jim Stello: with Legos
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: still
  Jim Stello: everybody
  Cornelius Gonzales: have 'em.
  Jim Stello: knows
  David Minshall: Totally.
  Jim Stello: best spaceships ever. Um you guys felt like there was enough teamwork in all?
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah?
  David Minshall: I think so.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Yep.
  Jim Stello: Hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: You
  Jim Stello: No
  Thomas Kaleta: don't.
  Jim Stello: I, no I dunno, I d I I dunno, I don't I I was just
  David Minshall: Though
  Jim Stello: I
  David Minshall: we didn't actually I mean other than minor discussion at meetings there wasn't except for the actual building,
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: but
  Jim Stello: It's true
  David Minshall: I feel
  Jim Stello: huh?
  David Minshall: like if this was a team project there actually would have been much more of the collaborative like brainstorming, use the board well and this would have been six months' worth of work, not like
  Jim Stello: Yeah.
  David Minshall: three hours' worth of meetings.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I mean I think had the issue been more serious we probably woulda brainstormed more during our meetings as
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: That's
  Cornelius Gonzales: a
  David Minshall: true.
  Cornelius Gonzales: team.
  Jim Stello: Yeah. Course I'm I'm conscious of the idea of Jim Stello asking if you guys feel like there's a team you know it's like, kind of like, like hmm. It
  David Minshall: Yeah
  Jim Stello: d
  David Minshall: that is kind of
  Jim Stello: But yeah. Interesting. It's kind of fascinating wasn't it? I mean the whole process of
  Thomas Kaleta: Wonder why is there anything about the way that we got so much inform what was it that kept us from going to the the board?
  Jim Stello: I don't know. I I don't know if there was a ri I th
  David Minshall: Mine was the mics. I didn't feel like getting up and down and dealing with all these wires,
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah,
  David Minshall: I was afraid
  Thomas Kaleta: that's
  David Minshall: I was gonna
  Thomas Kaleta: it
  David Minshall: break
  Thomas Kaleta: 'cause
  David Minshall: something
  Thomas Kaleta: the
  David Minshall: actually.
  Thomas Kaleta: mics are loose and each
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: time you get up it's s a possibility
  Jim Stello: Mm.
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: of tripping over something or getting tangled or.
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Well I dunno what I woulda shown on that board.
  David Minshall: True, but it didn't even occur to David Minshall as an option, I mean I don't
  Jim Stello: Nor
  David Minshall: know that
  Jim Stello: I.
  David Minshall: I would have but I know that I consciously didn't.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I mean it's just like the paper I don't know what I really needed the paper for.
  David Minshall: True.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Um, because I've got this laptop.
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Standard, I just used it 'cause it's literally right in front of David Minshall.
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: I wanna see the output files
  David Minshall: Well
  Jim Stello: from
  David Minshall: it looks
  Jim Stello: these
  David Minshall: really professional.
  Jim Stello: um, from the digital paper. I wanna see wh
  David Minshall: I know.
  Jim Stello: wh what my my handwriting looks like digitized because my handwriting is crap.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah,
  Jim Stello: I mean,
  Thomas Kaleta: that's
  Jim Stello: just
  Thomas Kaleta: it.
  Jim Stello: to see what it looks like in P_D_F_ format or something.
  Thomas Kaleta: Usually I would do a lot more doodling too but I didn't because
  David Minshall: I know, I felt like I needed to be professional so I didn't like draw all over my paper and stuff. Okay, well not entirely, but still, I doodled less than I usually do.
  Jim Stello: T I I'm curious about what the de-briefing is gonna be like. You know, like what is the uh what exactly we're looking for here.
  Cornelius Gonzales: So is this all we need to get through?
  Jim Stello: I dunno, I'm not sure
  David Minshall: I
  Jim Stello: what the
  David Minshall: guess.
  Jim Stello: new ideas found i is about.
  David Minshall: Um.
  Thomas Kaleta: New ideas.
  David Minshall: It
  Cornelius Gonzales: Is it
  David Minshall: did it just say in an email that we need to discuss that?
  Jim Stello: Well, that's the thing I got i in the email I got this PowerPoint file but this slide was just
  David Minshall: That slide
  Jim Stello: there,
  David Minshall: was like that?
  Jim Stello: mm-hmm. I didn't change this one at all.
  Thomas Kaleta: Hmm.
  David Minshall: Well.
  Jim Stello: Um
  Thomas Kaleta: I guess
  Jim Stello: ch
  Thomas Kaleta: we're on the right track.
  Jim Stello: Yeah well.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Any new ideas with regard to
  Jim Stello: W
  Cornelius Gonzales: remote control concepts?
  Thomas Kaleta: No,
  Jim Stello: I kinda
  Thomas Kaleta: none.
  Jim Stello: like
  David Minshall: Uh
  Jim Stello: th
  David Minshall: I think they still do their job.
  Thomas Kaleta: I
  Jim Stello: Yeah
  Thomas Kaleta: think
  Jim Stello: you
  Thomas Kaleta: they're
  Jim Stello: can't
  Thomas Kaleta: fine actually.
  David Minshall: I am thinking outside the little square box though, with literally
  Jim Stello: Yeah.
  David Minshall: in like form I don't
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah, maybe a s a circle would be alright,
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: different.
  Jim Stello: Does kinda make you wonder, I mean, how much can you do with a remote control? It's like inventing a new car. Yeah
  David Minshall: It's still
  Jim Stello: yeah, you
  David Minshall: gotta
  Jim Stello: can
  David Minshall: be technically car shaped or it won't fit on the road, you know?
  Jim Stello: Yeah.
  David Minshall: Don't know.
  Jim Stello: Hmm. Um.
  Cornelius Gonzales: What is
  Jim Stello: 'Kay.
  Cornelius Gonzales: that? Our limited
  David Minshall: Kind
  Cornelius Gonzales: ability
  Jim Stello: So
  David Minshall: of.
  Jim Stello: this
  Cornelius Gonzales: to
  Jim Stello: was
  Cornelius Gonzales: think outside
  Jim Stello: other
  Thomas Kaleta: Are we back
  Jim Stello: costs.
  Cornelius Gonzales: the box?
  Thomas Kaleta: into
  Jim Stello: I dunno.
  Thomas Kaleta: project
  Jim Stello: I think this
  Thomas Kaleta: mood?
  Jim Stello: is
  David Minshall: Oh, how long was our meeting supposed to be? How much time
  Jim Stello: forty
  David Minshall: do we have left?
  Jim Stello: ish I I I mm we should go on a bit yeah about the project eval, um. I dunno about you guys but I felt like a bit under-stimulated on the whole thing. Like,
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Jim Stello: what like you know what am I really doing, you know what is
  David Minshall: Yeah, at the beginning it started out and I felt actually like under pressure like the first couple
  Jim Stello: Yep.
  David Minshall: were taking a lot of work and I was like had like all
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: this brainstorming I was doing and then suddenly I was like well it's just another two minute presentation that you guys don't really care about
  Cornelius Gonzales: Why?
  David Minshall: anyway so
  Jim Stello: Hey.
  David Minshall: type away.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Huh
  David Minshall: You
  Cornelius Gonzales: I think it was the real.
  David Minshall: know, you know what I mean like we all sort
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  David Minshall: of knew where we were headed with it so it didn't feel
  Cornelius Gonzales: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: Definitely when
  David Minshall: like it mattered anymore.
  Thomas Kaleta: when I first filled out the questionnaire I was marking it probably higher in terms of how much I had to
  David Minshall: Mm-hmm.
  Thomas Kaleta: how much I stressed over it and then by the time I got to the last one I was like, you know, not
  David Minshall: Whatever.
  Thomas Kaleta: very much.
  Jim Stello: Mm.
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Think it was also realisation of you basically just copy and paste what's given to
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: you into
  David Minshall: Very
  Cornelius Gonzales: your presentation
  David Minshall: much, yeah.
  Cornelius Gonzales: which uh wasn't so clear to David Minshall at the beginning.
  Jim Stello: I actually
  Thomas Kaleta: Mm-hmm.
  Jim Stello: didn't do that at all though, every single one I a all the presentations I either added slides or edited 'em. I
  Cornelius Gonzales: Oh
  Jim Stello: di
  Cornelius Gonzales: I added like five slides
  Jim Stello: Oh.
  Cornelius Gonzales: too,
  David Minshall: See I only got
  Thomas Kaleta: Did
  Cornelius Gonzales: but
  Thomas Kaleta: you
  David Minshall: blank
  Cornelius Gonzales: I
  Thomas Kaleta: really?
  David Minshall: ones.
  Thomas Kaleta: I just got blank ones and
  Jim Stello: What? Really?
  David Minshall: My slides were all blank, they'd have a title maybe
  Cornelius Gonzales: Yeah, mine
  David Minshall: and
  Cornelius Gonzales: too.
  David Minshall: they were just empty.
  Thomas Kaleta: David Minshall too.
  Jim Stello: Did they not have they didn't like uh mine yeah they didn't come like this? Like with this was what it looks like.
  David Minshall: Like
  Jim Stello: This is
  David Minshall: with
  Jim Stello: what
  David Minshall: those
  Jim Stello: that
  David Minshall: words
  Jim Stello: looked
  David Minshall: already
  Jim Stello: like,
  David Minshall: on it?
  Jim Stello: literally, just
  David Minshall: No.
  Jim Stello: like
  Cornelius Gonzales: No.
  Jim Stello: that. Interesting.
  David Minshall: I wondered why yours always looked so more complicated.
  Jim Stello: Uh-huh huh huh.
  Thomas Kaleta: I deleted slides.
  David Minshall: I think I added a slide one time.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I added many slides every time
  David Minshall: Hey with the whole new background
  Cornelius Gonzales: Yeah.
  David Minshall: being innovative,
  Thomas Kaleta: That
  David Minshall: yeah
  Thomas Kaleta: was pretty cool,
  David Minshall: that was
  Thomas Kaleta: it
  David Minshall: class.
  Thomas Kaleta: was a high moment of
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: the whole experiment.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Um.
  Jim Stello: Interesting. Any other thoughts come to mind?
  David Minshall: I wanna know how our product would fare. I
  Thomas Kaleta: I
  David Minshall: can't
  Thomas Kaleta: think
  David Minshall: just
  Thomas Kaleta: it
  David Minshall: leave
  Thomas Kaleta: would fail,
  David Minshall: it there.
  Thomas Kaleta: I think it'd be a
  David Minshall: I
  Thomas Kaleta: huge
  David Minshall: think
  Thomas Kaleta: disaster,
  David Minshall: it would take extensive
  Thomas Kaleta: especially
  David Minshall: marketing,
  Thomas Kaleta: if it looks like that.
  David Minshall: okay, an apple with a red button on top, even I am sceptical. But you know the whole
  Cornelius Gonzales: Even you.
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Thomas Kaleta: I don't we kind of designed it to look little bit like a face.
  David Minshall: I know it
  Jim Stello: Yeah but
  David Minshall: is.
  Thomas Kaleta: It's a happy face.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Actually that looked a lot
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: more like a tongue from previous to uh fr
  Jim Stello: Builds.
  Cornelius Gonzales: some other design uh modifications.
  Jim Stello: Mm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I hope you appreciate the uh incorporation of some tin foil from a uh
  David Minshall: I
  Cornelius Gonzales: random Kit-Kat
  David Minshall: I noticed
  Cornelius Gonzales: bar that
  David Minshall: that.
  Cornelius Gonzales: happened to be consumed.
  David Minshall: By accident.
  Jim Stello: Interesting.
  David Minshall: Well huh. An interesting day all in all
  Jim Stello: Uh,
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah,
  David Minshall: I
  Jim Stello: yeah,
  David Minshall: would
  Thomas Kaleta: it's
  David Minshall: say.
  Jim Stello: I'd
  Thomas Kaleta: uh
  Jim Stello: say so.
  Cornelius Gonzales: So again I reiterate my question of how different we are comp compared to the other groups, especially between culture groups and
  David Minshall: I
  Cornelius Gonzales: what not.
  Jim Stello: Mm,
  David Minshall: know.
  Jim Stello: I know.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Mm.
  Jim Stello: It
  Thomas Kaleta: I
  Jim Stello: seemed
  Thomas Kaleta: wanna
  Jim Stello: like
  Thomas Kaleta: see
  Jim Stello: everything
  Thomas Kaleta: a
  David Minshall: I
  Jim Stello: flowed pretty logically. You know from the the the basics
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: to the conce although the whole concepts thing, the whole concepts phase, I don't think I really understood like the concept. Well Thomas Kaleta okay
  David Minshall: 'Cause
  Jim Stello: the notion
  David Minshall: it's such a
  Jim Stello: of
  David Minshall: functional item.
  Jim Stello: yeah I mean i it's not like I have a concept of a mug's material, it's just it is what it is.
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: You know, maybe i rather than concepts i it should be th thought of we sh I I thought of I thought of rather than in terms of concepts I thought of it in terms of um like proposed idea. And
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Jim Stello: then the final would be like th the actual specified prototype or whatever, I dunno. But.
  Thomas Kaleta: Hmm.
  Jim Stello: All in all it's kinda interesting.
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: So we have more slides or?
  Jim Stello: No just this closing one. No we've established that the costs weren't really within budget, but we could s you know
  David Minshall: We
  Jim Stello: do
  David Minshall: got
  Jim Stello: it
  David Minshall: it to be.
  Jim Stello: We
  David Minshall: Like
  Jim Stello: did
  David Minshall: cutting corners.
  Jim Stello: the project evaluation based on um Sarah's evaluation of on
  David Minshall: Kind
  Jim Stello: off switches
  David Minshall: of, though it was
  Jim Stello: and
  David Minshall: really technically an evaluation of the product, not the project in general.
  Jim Stello: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: Mm.
  David Minshall: Which
  Jim Stello: True.
  David Minshall: I'm not sure is the same thing, at the time that just i made more sense, but I could see if they were really asking about us.
  Jim Stello: Yeah. 'Cause we di we had a thu think about it. Um. Yeah. And it's all recorded, woo-hoo. Yeah
  David Minshall: Yay.
  Jim Stello: what
  Thomas Kaleta: Hmm.
  Jim Stello: I'm gonna I'm gonna put um I'm supposed to do this final report thing at the end so I'll put all that into the final report as well, or as much as seems like maybe not like the articles and stuff, like
  Thomas Kaleta: I
  Jim Stello: because and if and so forth, but I'll put most of it in the reports.
  Thomas Kaleta: It'd be so cool
  David Minshall: Make
  Thomas Kaleta: if
  David Minshall: it
  Thomas Kaleta: we
  David Minshall: sound
  Thomas Kaleta: get
  David Minshall: eloquent.
  Thomas Kaleta: a copy of the recording.
  David Minshall: Oh, I have to done I've I've done
  Jim Stello: Nice.
  David Minshall: transcription before and it's really ridiculous how many words people say like
  Jim Stello: Oh
  David Minshall: just
  Jim Stello: yeah.
  David Minshall: in the middle of their sentences like that that mean nothing.
  Jim Stello: There's a whole branch of psychology that looks into that, psycholinguistics.
  Cornelius Gonzales: What
  Thomas Kaleta: Really.
  Cornelius Gonzales: the uhs
  David Minshall: There's a guy
  Cornelius Gonzales: and
  David Minshall: studying
  Cornelius Gonzales: the
  David Minshall: it here, yeah, he's studying ums
  Thomas Kaleta: Filler
  David Minshall: and
  Thomas Kaleta: words
  David Minshall: ahs
  Thomas Kaleta: or?
  David Minshall: or something.
  Jim Stello: Yep, they're called
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: um disfluencies.
  Thomas Kaleta: Disfluencies.
  David Minshall: That's a good word for it.
  Jim Stello: Yeah we like our fancy phrases and terminologies for things.
  David Minshall: Just add some prefixes, sounds classier.
  Jim Stello: Exactly uh I will save this into the project
  Thomas Kaleta: I find
  Jim Stello: documents.
  Thomas Kaleta: myself hitting the send and receive button on the email a lot,
  David Minshall: I,
  Cornelius Gonzales: Mm.
  Thomas Kaleta: just
  Jim Stello: Yeah.
  David Minshall: yeah,
  Thomas Kaleta: out
  Jim Stello: Oh
  Thomas Kaleta: of boredom,
  Jim Stello: yeah.
  David Minshall: pretty compulsively
  Thomas Kaleta: like c come on
  David Minshall: during
  Jim Stello: Yeah
  David Minshall: meetings,
  Jim Stello: I know.
  David Minshall: like,
  Thomas Kaleta: gimme something.
  David Minshall: yeah.
  Jim Stello: Come on give David Minshall some information. Well to be fair we're we're hooked we're all hooked on the internet,
  David Minshall: Yeah,
  Jim Stello: so I mean I
  David Minshall: we
  Jim Stello: do the
  David Minshall: are addicts.
  Cornelius Gonzales: That's scary yeah?
  Thomas Kaleta: It is scary.
  David Minshall: Mm.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Well just around that eight or or
  Jim Stello: I
  Cornelius Gonzales: nine
  Jim Stello: know, imagine
  Cornelius Gonzales: people
  Jim Stello: we went
  Cornelius Gonzales: that
  Jim Stello: the
  Cornelius Gonzales: are
  Jim Stello: first ten y fifteen years of our lives without the internet. It's only in the last ten that we're like where's
  David Minshall: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: the internet? I mean, you know, it just in the past five we've gone
  David Minshall: I yeah.
  Jim Stello: from twenty eight eight modems to broadband all the time.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Dude,
  David Minshall: True.
  Cornelius Gonzales: I think we've had internet for like eighteen years.
  Jim Stello: No we have
  David Minshall: I
  Jim Stello: but I not in the sense
  David Minshall: yeah.
  Jim Stello: that it's so un you know
  Thomas Kaleta: Yeah.
  Jim Stello: uh ubiquitous
  David Minshall: But it's not regular I mean my grandparents had it in the eighties and I got it in ninety four, but still.
  Thomas Kaleta: It's crazy.
  David Minshall: Uh-huh.
  Thomas Kaleta: So
  Cornelius Gonzales: In the eighties?
  David Minshall: My um grammy does computer science back in the States and so they had um an E_D_U_ and gov network.
  Jim Stello: Mm.
  David Minshall: There's basically the fundamental structures, but it wasn't uh household to household yet
  Cornelius Gonzales: Right.
  David Minshall: because it hadn't been
  Cornelius Gonzales: Yeah, it was to the like seven
  David Minshall: partitioned
  Cornelius Gonzales: universities
  David Minshall: off and stuff,
  Cornelius Gonzales: or something.
  David Minshall: yeah that was him.
  Cornelius Gonzales: You guys ready to celebrate?
  Jim Stello: Yeah that's
  David Minshall: Apparently,
  Jim Stello: our last step.
  David Minshall: does that include
  Jim Stello: Celebration.
  David Minshall: like champagne or something exciting?
  Thomas Kaleta: Should.
  David Minshall: I
  Jim Stello: 'Kay
  David Minshall: think
  Jim Stello: I guess
  David Minshall: so.
  Jim Stello: we can probably call that meeting to an end
  David Minshall: I
  Jim Stello: for
  David Minshall: think
  Jim Stello: the most
  David Minshall: that's
  Jim Stello: part.
  David Minshall: a closer.
  Jim Stello: Cool.
  Thomas Kaleta: Has it been forty minutes or whatever? this has been long enough.
  Cornelius Gonzales: Celebrate.
  Jim Stello: Where do you find that?
  David Minshall: I have no idea.
  Thomas Kaleta: Is that the only song you have?
  Cornelius Gonzales: There is another one.
  Jim Stello: Is this one of those media player?
  Cornelius Gonzales: Huh? Yep.
  Jim Stello: W oh.
  Thomas Kaleta: That's awesome.
  Jim Stello: The default track.
  Thomas Kaleta: Maybe I have
  Jim Stello: I
  Thomas Kaleta: a
  Jim Stello: thought
  Thomas Kaleta: different
  Jim Stello: it was
  Thomas Kaleta: one.
  Jim Stello: David Burns, look into the eyeball. That's one that seems to be shipping with it uh shipped with for a while, maybe this is the new version.
  David Minshall: So is that a close?
  Jim Stello: Yeah, I guess we'll call that
  David Minshall: Okay,
  Jim Stello: a a
  David Minshall: that's
  Jim Stello: doner.
  David Minshall: the end of the meeting.
  Jim Stello: Fab.
  David Minshall: Thank you gentlemen. I feel like I'm signing off.
Updated Content: Jim Stello opened the meeting by reviewing the decisions from the previous meeting (to use voice recognition instead of the touch screen, to hide the complicated features, and to start building the prototype). Cornelius Gonzales and Thomas Kaleta then presented the prototype that featured voice recognition, interchangeable cases, visible light, and a soft casing material. Jim Stello presented what each component cost, which showed that the project was going over the alotted budget; the group decided to remove the solar panel. David Minshall presented an evaluation of the prototype and showed that the prototype had met many of the initial goals. The group then evaluated the project process and discussed their effectiveness as a group. Jim Stello summarized the proceedings of the meeting which will go into a final report, along with comments made during the project evaluation.