Extracted Content: Barry Shinabery: So um nice to see you again. Uh. So, uh. Tod uh for this meeting I will take the notes and do the minutes. Uh so we will see our three presentations. Um we will start with the uh Manager Expert wi who will talk about uh user re requirements, whats user needs and what it desire for this devi device.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay, can I have the laptop over
  Barry Shinabery: Yep.
  Benjamin Vasquez: here,
  Barry Shinabery: Oh, I don't think so. I think you
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: have
  Benjamin Vasquez: Have to get
  Barry Shinabery: to
  Benjamin Vasquez: up.
  Barry Shinabery: come here. I dunno. I think it should stay.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Excuse Benjamin Vasquez.
  Sammy Austin: Yeah, that's it.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: Should stay in the square here.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: Oh, maybe.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay, so basically I'm gonna present
  Barry Shinabery: Oh,
  Benjamin Vasquez: some
  Barry Shinabery: you
  Benjamin Vasquez: findings
  Barry Shinabery: can put it here.
  Benjamin Vasquez: of a study we conducted
  Barry Shinabery: Oh that's okay, it's jus
  Benjamin Vasquez: uh into uh what users want in this remote control. Um so first of all we what we did is we um conducted a an experiment with a hundred test subjects. Um we put them in a in our um usability laboratory and got them to, you know, um play with remote controls and also to complete, after they'd done that, to complete a questionnaire uh to tell us what they like and what they don't like in remote controls. So basically um the major things we found out was that um basically users don't like the look and feel of of most remote controls that are currently on the market. Um they, you know, seventy five percent of the people we we uh did the experiments on, found that rem remote the remote controls that they'd used in the past were ugly. Completely ugly. Um they they didn't match the operating behaviour of the user, that is, you know, the the way users use remote controls when they're watching T_V_. Um, that the layout of the remote controls didn't match they way that they used it. Um and thirdly they say that w half of the users that we um tested said that they only used ten percent of the buttons that uh are on remote controls. Um so we collect we also some collected some usage statistics uh based on how these test subjects were using their remote control. And from this we basically came up with the figure that the channel buttons, the channel selection buttons are the most by far the most used buttons on the remote control. Um and you can see they're used a hundred and sixty eight times per hour on average, um, while the user's watching T_V_. Um the closest button that was used, well the cl the button that was used that was closest to the channel button was the teletext button, um which was used fourteen times per hour, followed by the volume button, which was four times per hour, um, all the other, all the other um buttons, such as ch um audio and picture selection um configuration buttons and things were used, you know, l approx well less than or equal to one times per hour. Um we also asked users um which buttons had the most importance to them, you know, which which buttons they felt were the most important buttons on on the remote control. And basically they came they said the channel, volume, and power buttons had the highest relevance to users, um note that only power was very infrequently used, it only had a b a a fr usage frequency of about one times per hour, but users ranked it as having a very very high relevance. Um and the audio and picture settings had a very that well the users thought that um w the audio and picture settings were very uh weren't very important to them um, and they used them very infrequently a as well. So we asked users what what um frustrates them the most about um current remote controls. And fifty percent of the users said that uh what frustrates them is losing the remote control um somewhere in the room and not being able to find it. Um they also said that it um it takes a lot of time to learn a new remote control, especially when there's many buttons and it's a, you know, a c a a unintuitive interface. Um and then thirdly, they some users commented on the fact that the the you know the way that you have to hold and press buttons on a remote control ar are bad and um cause u repetitive strain injury. We also asked some users about some specific features that they'd like to see in the on the remote control. In particular, do they want an L_C_D_ d display, and secondly, do they think speech recognition uh is a useful feature to have on a remote control. Um basically our findings are that um amongst a younger age groups uh the answer is umv overwhelmingly yes. They want these features, they want these high technology features. Um for instance, ninety one percent of pe of people aged between fifteen and twenty five said yes, they want these features. Whereas um the the trend was as users as users um became older and older uh they were less likely to want these sort of features in a um in a remote control. So I guess it depends on where we're focusing our our market. Um and as our company motto is putting fashion in electronics, um I think we're focusing on the younger younger um target demographic, and so maybe we should think about adding these sort of high technology features into our remote control.
  Barry Shinabery: Hmm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: That's my dic that's my presentation. Thank you.
  Barry Shinabery: Thank you.
  Jerry Williams: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: So, um maybe now we can talk about a user interface and uh about the technical function of this device. So uh Pet Peter, can you talk say something
  Sammy Austin: Well
  Barry Shinabery: about that?
  Sammy Austin: okay, yeah. Yeah, but the user user
  Barry Shinabery: No.
  Jerry Williams: B
  Sammy Austin: interface
  Jerry Williams: you think uh
  Sammy Austin: is responsible.
  Jerry Williams: I I'm User Interface
  Barry Shinabery: Ah.
  Sammy Austin: Okay, so.
  Barry Shinabery: Sorry, I'm Sorry.
  Jerry Williams: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: Sorry.
  Jerry Williams: Okay. If I could go there with this cable.
  Sammy Austin: You're scaring Benjamin Vasquez with L_C_D_ man. And speech recognition in remote unit, it will be very e expensive.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah, it's true, but, you know, they're features that users want, so it's
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: And our production cost of twelve fifty Euros per per unit is fairly high I think, so
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: I think we can afford to to add these sort of features into our remote.
  Sammy Austin: At least we have couple of months t to work on it so so it will be cheaper
  Jerry Williams: Sh okay.
  Sammy Austin: finally.
  Benjamin Vasquez: It is true.
  Jerry Williams: Where's delete button? Okay. Oh I'm sorry.
  Jerry Williams: Okay.
  Benjamin Vasquez: That's the wrong one, I think.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah, it's still Bob Morris.
  Jerry Williams: Oh. Presentation three?
  Sammy Austin: Because you cancelled
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah you should have
  Sammy Austin: it.
  Barry Shinabery: put yes.
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Jerry Williams: Oh.
  Barry Shinabery: Click on yes. yeah.
  Sammy Austin: Yep.
  Jerry Williams: Okay, so here is my presentation about technical function design. I will talk about different components and s of system and how they react together. Okay, uh, first is a remote control it's a device, as, for uh, different commands uh with this device. And the main idea we don't use any cable and we can rec react simpler with the device. Uh i it has different blocks, different blocks. Uh first is remote control have sh ha should have some electric circuits uh making interface with uh keyboard and uh r reading uh keyboard and reading the keyboard uh commands. And then inter then make uh these keyboard commands, uh in interpret these int uh keyboard commands. And then there should be uh an electronic circuit making uh electronic signals according to these commands and uh finally there is a transmitter which is a cord or a a diode making uh making uh waves to transmit through the air and uh uh this air this uh wave uh will be received by the by the other device like a television or whatever, to uh r to realise the command. Okay, uh about what I found about uh different uh these different blocks are uh, usually there are two different methods uh to for designing a remote control. They are based on infra-red uh waves or uh uh
  Sammy Austin: You still
  Jerry Williams: radio
  Sammy Austin: want
  Jerry Williams: waves.
  Sammy Austin: Benjamin Vasquez the presentation.
  Jerry Williams: There are two different uh uh solutions I mean. This is uh this can be uh uh the the differences the th between different kind of waves, infra-red or radio waves. And uh also as uh I understood, and uh I think it was a part of uh Bob, uh uh presentation, people prefer to have uh to have uh the remote control with less button. So for the electronic part, working and interfacing, with button, we should we should try to t try to design a remote control having uh some some simpler buttons or some rolling buttons to just to just to search between different options, and showing o something on T_V_ and putting less lesser stuff on the uh on the remote control. And uh personal preferences, uh uh uh uh certainly a remote control with uh working with radio waves is uh preferred because uh you can pr you can take it in any direction and you don't need to tune it any way. And uh uh again, using bigger buttons and less number of buttons are also preferred, as I see. Okay. That was my presentation.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Benjamin Vasquez: I have a question.
  Jerry Williams: Uh-huh.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Do you think radio waves um will interfere with other appliances in the home?
  Jerry Williams: Uh, I don't think so, because uh we can make uh we ca we can make this wave in a specific frequency. So they can be in a range which is not inter interfering with the with other devices inside the home.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: So
  Sammy Austin: Yeah it should be
  Barry Shinabery: can
  Sammy Austin: okay.
  Barry Shinabery: we use any any frequency? We have the right to use any frequency?
  Jerry Williams: Uh no but as I know, there is a range for uh for this uh f for for uh for this stuff, for designing this circuit. We can we can we can tune our uh transmitter to work in this range, and for this range we don't need to ask any permission.
  Barry Shinabery: Okay. And what happen with uh radio waves when two neighbours have the same have our remote control, for example? And so do they have the same frequency, or?
  Jerry Williams: Uh for this I'm not uh I I don't know the solution, but one solution can be something like putting uh p password or something inside the wave, so the only your
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Jerry Williams: T_V_ can
  Barry Shinabery: A
  Jerry Williams: understand
  Barry Shinabery: kind of identification,
  Jerry Williams: it Yeah, identification
  Sammy Austin: Yeah f
  Jerry Williams: code
  Barry Shinabery: okay.
  Jerry Williams: inside the
  Sammy Austin: uh
  Barry Shinabery: So
  Sammy Austin: I know about this, since it's my it's exactly my field, so. It's uh kind of handshaking, uh, when starting to uh when you start to communicate with the your T_V_
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: then then it's like an handshaking
  Barry Shinabery: So
  Sammy Austin: protocol with your your remote. So so if two two devices are trying to go to communicate with the T_V_ set then the the the one which has the more energy in the wave is chosen. Well it can be a problem sometimes, but most of the time it works okay.
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Jerry Williams: The password may simply uh or uh i identification code may simply solve this problem. A specific uh remote control has
  Sammy Austin: Yeah
  Jerry Williams: a
  Sammy Austin: but
  Jerry Williams: specific
  Sammy Austin: we we don't have to think
  Jerry Williams: f
  Sammy Austin: uh about this because I think as a function designer that we will use the already made uh circuits which we probably bu buy. It's worth to buy.
  Barry Shinabery: Hmm.
  Sammy Austin: And they have these problems solved so.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: So
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: we don't have to think about these.
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: So, maybe you can talk about the function, and
  Sammy Austin: Yes. I have only a couple of things because I had I struggled a bit with the software that I'm supposed to use in this uh uh in this company. I was used to use Linux before, so. But I tried to tried to break through this too, I guess. Mm.
  Barry Shinabery: Open.
  Sammy Austin: Ah. Okay. How to make it big?
  Barry Shinabery: Slide
  Jerry Williams: Five.
  Barry Shinabery: show.
  Sammy Austin: Slide show. Okay, thanks.
  Barry Shinabery: It should work, so you can.
  Sammy Austin: Okay. Oh so I will speak about working design. That's the first slide. Uh what uh I have to do? A look at what the other company Okay so uh presently I am looking what is possible to use, what circuits to use and stuff like that because uh I didn't work uh with these uh circuits so far so I have to look what what is a v a v available on the market for for the communication for the I_R_ circuits and so on, so I'm currently looking what is available on the web. And uh I wanted to ask you m maybe afterwards, after after our discussion, if we have some contacts in some companies, so, which can report on what is going on there, so, I would be
  Barry Shinabery: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: glad if you can
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: tell Benjamin Vasquez about them. So, you know. Uh, okay findings, that's the point that I'm working on currently but uh so far I I was uh looking what what are the blue circuit, I mean radio wave radio frequency circuits
  Benjamin Vasquez: Mm-hmm.
  Sammy Austin: are available now, but the prices I read are high. So, I know that uh the user interface people and these speak about radio frequency waves because you can you can uh
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Sammy Austin: you can make the T_V_ do what you want even
  Barry Shinabery: Hmm.
  Sammy Austin: if you are in the bathroom or so on, but you know, when you are not close to the T_V_ you probably won't need to to change the program and so on and so I am I am voting for s to stick to the um infra-red control instead of R_W_ but we will discuss it later maybe. Uh. Components to use, I'm not exactly sure what I will use for the design of the circuit. It depends uh on whether we will use the L_C_D_ and mainly the speech recognition, because the speech rec Yeah?
  Benjamin Vasquez: Are we um are we planning to take an off the shelf an O_E_M_ component for the radio wave circuit, or are we planning to construct our own circuit
  Sammy Austin: No no
  Benjamin Vasquez: board?
  Sammy Austin: no no no. This we this we buy I think, because it's rather cheap nowadays and it's
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay
  Sammy Austin: not worth
  Benjamin Vasquez: s
  Sammy Austin: to construct ourselves.
  Benjamin Vasquez: So we just buy a circuit board and
  Sammy Austin: Exactly.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: But I'm not sure about the circuit which is responsible for speech recognition. This I prefer that we should make ourselves.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: But it depends whether we take a decision to use it. Same thing. It's fairly expensive to use these circuits. So, speech recognition well, L_C_D_ it's okay because it's common nowadays to use L_C_D_, so I agree on using any kind of L_C_D_, less buttons good for Benjamin Vasquez as a as a designer of the circuit.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: But the speech recognition we have to compare whether
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: the price and the
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: what does it offer, you know.
  Barry Shinabery: So what do you think would
  Sammy Austin: Yeah, I'm
  Barry Shinabery: be the price, it would be out of range? Or it would be maybe
  Sammy Austin: Oh.
  Barry Shinabery: feasible?
  Sammy Austin: I was not thinking too much about the price. But if we use the L_C_D_ uh even the radio frequency communication with the T_V_ set and the backlight and uh related things like the photo diodes and stuff, it should be okay. If we decide to use the speech recognition, then we probably could struggle but we'll see afterwards.
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: It depends of you if if the M_E_ or U_I_D_, I'm
  Barry Shinabery: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: sorry about the names, I don't really know, uh want to have it like in metal or in plastic, these things, it it depends on you not Because the the the electronic device's price is not not so big in comparison to to the overall shape and stuff like that, so.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: We will discuss it afterwards. Oh, this is nothing. This is just my notes on what to use. preferably to use R_W_ circuit, but from the point of view uh of the design and price, I would stick to I_R_s. That's my opinion. Uh I mean if infra-red uh circuit not not the radio frequency.
  Barry Shinabery: Why? Because it's simpler?
  Sammy Austin: Because because the the range where you can
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: use it is fair.
  Barry Shinabery: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: It's okay I think. And the price is fairly cheap
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: for this.
  Barry Shinabery: It's
  Sammy Austin: Well,
  Barry Shinabery: a a
  Sammy Austin: depends.
  Barry Shinabery: price matter. Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: Jus just the price.
  Barry Shinabery: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: Otherwise I don't care what I put there because it's the chip which I buy or which
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: we buy. So I I I think
  Benjamin Vasquez: What
  Sammy Austin: it's
  Benjamin Vasquez: how much
  Sammy Austin: o
  Benjamin Vasquez: more expensive?
  Sammy Austin: y
  Benjamin Vasquez: Are we talking three
  Sammy Austin: o.
  Benjamin Vasquez: times more expensive? Or
  Sammy Austin: Well,
  Benjamin Vasquez: ten
  Sammy Austin: three
  Benjamin Vasquez: times
  Sammy Austin: to
  Benjamin Vasquez: more
  Sammy Austin: three
  Benjamin Vasquez: expensive? Or
  Sammy Austin: to five.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: N not ten times, but it
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah
  Sammy Austin: depends what
  Benjamin Vasquez: yeah.
  Sammy Austin: what we
  Benjamin Vasquez: That's still a lot. I think it's it's probably not
  Barry Shinabery: Hmm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: worth spending the extra money, because
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: I mean all the other remote controls on the market have infra-red, so people don't expect anything other than infra-red.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: So it's
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: not worth spending
  Barry Shinabery: Well
  Benjamin Vasquez: the extra
  Sammy Austin: Th
  Benjamin Vasquez: money.
  Sammy Austin: they are used
  Barry Shinabery: I,
  Sammy Austin: to use
  Barry Shinabery: oh
  Sammy Austin: it when they can see the T_V_ so,
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: I
  Barry Shinabery: On
  Sammy Austin: don't
  Barry Shinabery: the other
  Sammy Austin: know.
  Barry Shinabery: side, we want to have something new. You know,
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: where we want to to have something new and So we I think we should still thinking about it. But
  Benjamin Vasquez: But I think,
  Barry Shinabery: maybe.
  Benjamin Vasquez: based on my usability studies I th I feel that users are prioritise the look and the feel and
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Benjamin Vasquez: the trendiness above, you know, the difference between infra-red or radio waves. So I think we're better off spending money
  Sammy Austin: You the user interface,
  Benjamin Vasquez: in the usability
  Sammy Austin: and
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: management
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: phase.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: man, uh
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: Uh okay, that's it for Benjamin Vasquez.
  Barry Shinabery: Okay, thank you Peter.
  Sammy Austin: 'Kay.
  Barry Shinabery: So um I have to inform you I receive an email from the management bon board today and they have new requirements for the for the remote control.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Mm.
  Barry Shinabery: Um first um, they say that's uh about something about t teletext. Uh apparently it becomes from according to them it becomes out of date. Out-dated. And uh Because of the internet popularity and everybody has internet at home, and actually it's not useful to have teletext. Um. So I think we can avoid the teletext. Um the second thing is uh they suggest that that we should uh use the remote control only for T_V_, not for D_V_D_ and other devices, because it make it it makes it's too complex and uh because we have not much time for this project we should stay on T_V_ on the only specific T_V_ remote control.
  Sammy Austin: I agree.
  Barry Shinabery: The third the third one is uh about the the the image of the company. So um uh we should we should keep uh The the product should be recognisable. Uh, uh It's That mean we should use the colour of our company and maybe put somewhere the s the slogan of the company, which is uh, we put fashion of in electronics. So, when people see the the remote control, they should say oh it's from Real Reaction and he s they should recognise the company. So, um So now we we should take the decision what we are going to what function we will have on this uh on this remote control. So, mm, are we going to use L_C_D_, speech recognition? Uh.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Well, should we start with just the core, the basic functions that we need. And then
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: we can move on
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: to the
  Jerry Williams: Yes.
  Benjamin Vasquez: more
  Barry Shinabery: Maybe,
  Benjamin Vasquez: advanced features.
  Barry Shinabery: maybe.
  Sammy Austin: Okay, so the available things are L_C_D_, the buttons and everything. Uh radio frequency depends. And, well the recognition it depends on
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah
  Sammy Austin: you guys. You
  Barry Shinabery: but
  Sammy Austin: should probably speak.
  Barry Shinabery: first maybe what is what are the usual function of a standard remote control? I mean
  Sammy Austin: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: what do
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay, well,
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: I mean the obvious one is changing channels.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Jerry Williams: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: I think we should stick on very useful functions, because
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: we want less button. So, yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah, okay.
  Barry Shinabery: So, turning channel, of course. Volume setting.
  Sammy Austin: Uh just one note to the chan channel changing. Do we will we use only two buttons, or or like numbered buttons? I mean those nine
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: plus one or two?
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Barry Shinabery: I think it would be a b
  Sammy Austin: Because it's many buttons and we were speaking about lowering the number.
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah, I
  Barry Shinabery: On the other side we have more and more channels, and if you want to pass through all the
  Jerry Williams: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: channels to get the channel you want, it's
  Sammy Austin: Okay so so we keep all these
  Jerry Williams: Yeah
  Barry Shinabery: Maybe
  Jerry Williams: yeah,
  Sammy Austin: all
  Jerry Williams: at
  Barry Shinabery: maybe
  Jerry Williams: least
  Sammy Austin: these buttons.
  Barry Shinabery: we
  Jerry Williams: nine,
  Barry Shinabery: could
  Jerry Williams: ten
  Barry Shinabery: think of
  Jerry Williams: button.
  Barry Shinabery: something more betweens, like uh
  Sammy Austin: Like ten plus, five plus, one plus, one minus
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: or something.
  Barry Shinabery: Maybe something
  Sammy Austin: Or using
  Barry Shinabery: like
  Sammy Austin: the
  Barry Shinabery: that.
  Sammy Austin: names and the keyboard I
  Benjamin Vasquez: Ah yeah.
  Sammy Austin: dunno.
  Barry Shinabery: Uh.
  Jerry Williams: Or
  Barry Shinabery: Maybe
  Jerry Williams: Or something.
  Barry Shinabery: Oh I don't know. Oh. Maybe we could have key buttons, like uh discovery channe like documentary channel, and movies channel and
  Sammy Austin: You mean
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Sammy Austin: like
  Barry Shinabery: And
  Sammy Austin: hierarchical
  Barry Shinabery: inside
  Sammy Austin: structure.
  Barry Shinabery: this
  Jerry Williams: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: this thing you can move,
  Jerry Williams: Like categorising
  Barry Shinabery: maybe switch.
  Jerry Williams: channels.
  Barry Shinabery: If you want to see a movie you click on the movie button so you have all the movie channels
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Barry Shinabery: and
  Sammy Austin: Okay,
  Barry Shinabery: after
  Sammy Austin: so
  Barry Shinabery: you've
  Sammy Austin: s
  Barry Shinabery: you plus
  Sammy Austin: Oh
  Barry Shinabery: plus
  Sammy Austin: sorry.
  Barry Shinabery: plus.
  Jerry Williams: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: I It just an idea. I don't know what you think about that but.
  Sammy Austin: So it requires the use of L_C_D_ probably, to to tell you
  Benjamin Vasquez: To
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah,
  Benjamin Vasquez: have some feedback.
  Barry Shinabery: probably, yeah,
  Sammy Austin: Okay,
  Barry Shinabery: yeah.
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: so I'll make a note on L_C_D_.
  Benjamin Vasquez: We could maybe also c um incorporate Petre's idea of the um slider for the volume,
  Jerry Williams: Okay.
  Benjamin Vasquez: with the channel.
  Barry Shinabery: Okay.
  Benjamin Vasquez: So we c you could quickly just
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: through many channels.
  Sammy Austin: Like roller for the
  Benjamin Vasquez: For
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: the channels, perhaps.
  Sammy Austin: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: Anything else?
  Benjamin Vasquez: So we've got channel and volume. Um.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: So we are still s speaking about the common devices or we are inviting
  Benjamin Vasquez: I think
  Sammy Austin: the
  Benjamin Vasquez: so.
  Sammy Austin: new one?
  Benjamin Vasquez: I think basically
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: the core functions we want, and then more advanced ones.
  Barry Shinabery: What about the settings of the T_V_? Because it's button we don't use very often, but it's we need it anyway.
  Jerry Williams: So
  Barry Shinabery: So
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Jerry Williams: uh we don't have any uh we don't have uh we should just design the remote control and we sh we don't have any access to the to the T_V_ design or we can change some design. Because one solution for this um uh uh ch changing channels is to see a summary of all channels, some some preview of all channels and then you
  Sammy Austin: On
  Jerry Williams: can
  Sammy Austin: the screen,
  Jerry Williams: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: you mean?
  Jerry Williams: Yeah
  Sammy Austin: Not
  Jerry Williams: b
  Sammy Austin: on the control,
  Jerry Williams: Not on
  Sammy Austin: but
  Jerry Williams: the
  Sammy Austin: on
  Jerry Williams: control,
  Sammy Austin: the screen.
  Jerry Williams: on the screen, on the T_V_ screen.
  Sammy Austin: Well, this
  Benjamin Vasquez: I don't
  Sammy Austin: would
  Jerry Williams: And
  Sammy Austin: avoid
  Jerry Williams: then
  Sammy Austin: L_C_D_, then.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Oh, I don't but I don't think we're we're the ones. I mean this remote control we're developing is a generic control for
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah,
  Benjamin Vasquez: all T_V_s,
  Barry Shinabery: yeah.
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Barry Shinabery: know if
  Sammy Austin: Oh.
  Benjamin Vasquez: I
  Barry Shinabery: it's
  Benjamin Vasquez: think.
  Barry Shinabery: possible to to watch something
  Sammy Austin: W
  Barry Shinabery: on T_V_
  Sammy Austin: I I think it it would be better to to stick to the remote control
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: and not to bother the T_V_ to
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Sammy Austin: to to print these things. Well it wi it will be still more expensive, but for the L_C_D_ and this stuff is no problem
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Sammy Austin: in the price.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: So, what are we doing with the settings? Because settings if we want to do settings we need buttons for that and we want less buttons, so. Maybe with the L_C_D_ we can do something
  Jerry Williams: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: with less buttons, but
  Benjamin Vasquez: But then you don't want to make the L_C_D_ display too complicated
  Barry Shinabery: Mm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: at the same time. I mean there's always
  Sammy Austin: Two T_V_s.
  Benjamin Vasquez: we can always have these l less often used functions hidden somewhere, under a cover
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: or
  Barry Shinabery: Oh yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: at
  Sammy Austin: Like
  Benjamin Vasquez: the back of under
  Barry Shinabery: Oh,
  Sammy Austin: ma
  Benjamin Vasquez: a slide
  Barry Shinabery: the.
  Benjamin Vasquez: or some
  Sammy Austin: We we could have for example two buttons like simple mode and advanced mode. Or I dunno.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: Or
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: like children and grandfather's mode, and
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: the, well the the user not the user, the man mana T_V_ manager mode.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Sammy Austin: Ah,
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Sammy Austin: I dunno.
  Benjamin Vasquez: So we have five minutes left.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Um.
  Sammy Austin: Uh.
  Benjamin Vasquez: So I think s the settings we th we are agreeing are agreed that they're required.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: It's just
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: how to a
  Barry Shinabery: We should hide them somewhere.
  Sammy Austin: Hide
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: them, okay.
  Barry Shinabery: In the menus of the L_C_D_
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: or in the back of the remote control, or something like
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: that.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Uh, okay, what else?
  Sammy Austin: Um.
  Benjamin Vasquez: I mean a power button's obviously
  Sammy Austin: Yes.
  Benjamin Vasquez: uh
  Sammy Austin: This
  Benjamin Vasquez: required.
  Sammy Austin: I was thinking. Do we need a power button at all? Should should shouldn't we do it like sleep mode after five minutes of not using it? Because generally
  Barry Shinabery: It's it's a kind of setting, I think. It should
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Barry Shinabery: fit in those settings
  Jerry Williams: Settings.
  Barry Shinabery: functions. Because it's not a very current useful function.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Uh, well I think when they say power button they mean to turn the T_V_ on and off.
  Barry Shinabery: No,
  Sammy Austin: Yes.
  Barry Shinabery: I think it's after after five minutes
  Sammy Austin: Well
  Barry Shinabery: or something
  Sammy Austin: I
  Barry Shinabery: a timer
  Sammy Austin: I uh
  Barry Shinabery: I I think,
  Benjamin Vasquez: But if you're
  Barry Shinabery: no?
  Benjamin Vasquez: watching T_V_ for two hours, you don't want your T_V_ to turn off
  Sammy Austin: You don't
  Benjamin Vasquez: after
  Sammy Austin: need
  Benjamin Vasquez: five
  Sammy Austin: to
  Benjamin Vasquez: five
  Sammy Austin: every
  Benjamin Vasquez: minute
  Sammy Austin: five minutes to keep it alive. Uh probably. Okay, so we should keep this button.
  Benjamin Vasquez: I mean based
  Jerry Williams: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: on our usability studies again, um pe um people said that the power button was v a very
  Barry Shinabery: Oh okay,
  Benjamin Vasquez: relevant button.
  Barry Shinabery: yeah.
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Um, you know, it was nine out of ten
  Sammy Austin: Okay, so
  Benjamin Vasquez: re
  Sammy Austin: we
  Benjamin Vasquez: relevance.
  Sammy Austin: we could p what we could probably do is to keep also to keep uh keep the L_C_D_ and all the buttons and stuff, we could make it like a opening opening style that if you open it
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: you are you just turn on the T_V_ and if you close it, it will
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: turn off the T_V_. If if you like this,
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay. B Okay.
  Sammy Austin: Because, well
  Benjamin Vasquez: I think we need
  Sammy Austin: it's
  Benjamin Vasquez: to concentrate
  Sammy Austin: maybe question
  Benjamin Vasquez: on the,
  Sammy Austin: for you
  Benjamin Vasquez: you know, the
  Sammy Austin: t
  Benjamin Vasquez: major
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: usage of the th of the control,
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: which is you sit down, you turn on your T_V_, you change channels, you change the volume, you turn the T_V_ off.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Um
  Barry Shinabery: So s yeah.
  Benjamin Vasquez: and all the other f functionality is
  Jerry Williams: Yeah, they
  Benjamin Vasquez: not
  Jerry Williams: can
  Benjamin Vasquez: used very often.
  Jerry Williams: yeah they can be hide somewhere by a cover or something
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Jerry Williams: like this.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Jerry Williams: Like covering
  Barry Shinabery: On the
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: back, or
  Jerry Williams: cu.
  Sammy Austin: I mean like the
  Jerry Williams: Yeah, like mobile phone
  Sammy Austin: Yeah but
  Jerry Williams: covering.
  Sammy Austin: since we have the L_C_D_, we didn't need too much button too many buttons. Um, okay, just um the decision of the power button. Should we make it a button, or some some something which would be
  Barry Shinabery: For what?
  Sammy Austin: Uh
  Benjamin Vasquez: I think a button.
  Jerry Williams: A button
  Sammy Austin: power button.
  Jerry Williams: is better.
  Benjamin Vasquez: I think it should
  Barry Shinabery: Ah
  Benjamin Vasquez: be a
  Sammy Austin: If
  Benjamin Vasquez: bu
  Sammy Austin: it
  Barry Shinabery: oh
  Jerry Williams: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: yeah,
  Sammy Austin: if
  Barry Shinabery: yeah.
  Sammy Austin: it's a button or
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah
  Benjamin Vasquez: Its own
  Barry Shinabery: a
  Sammy Austin: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: button,
  Benjamin Vasquez: button
  Barry Shinabery: yeah I guess
  Benjamin Vasquez: on the
  Barry Shinabery: so.
  Benjamin Vasquez: front.
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: Okay, one nice big button. Old fashioned button, to satisfy the grandmothers. Hmm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: So,
  Sammy Austin: Mm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: S
  Barry Shinabery: any other suggestions or functions?
  Benjamin Vasquez: What about things like the clock and um timers?
  Sammy Austin: Do we still have the time? I I just wonder.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah, we have still one or two minutes
  Sammy Austin: Okay.
  Barry Shinabery: to talk, yeah.
  Sammy Austin: Oh. Well what w
  Jerry Williams: Clock
  Sammy Austin: what was the question?
  Jerry Williams: or
  Benjamin Vasquez: Uh um, you know, some func some features on the control to display a time, or
  Barry Shinabery: Usually
  Benjamin Vasquez: t
  Barry Shinabery: it's
  Benjamin Vasquez: to
  Barry Shinabery: already
  Benjamin Vasquez: display
  Barry Shinabery: on T_V_ or something like
  Jerry Williams: Yes.
  Barry Shinabery: that.
  Sammy Austin: Yeah but since we want to control all the televisions, and
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: and it would probably be worth to to set the timing on the remote, no? Because
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Sammy Austin: if if the T_V_ turns
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: on itself, it
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: well you
  Barry Shinabery: If
  Sammy Austin: know,
  Barry Shinabery: we if
  Sammy Austin: if
  Barry Shinabery: we
  Sammy Austin: the time
  Barry Shinabery: add
  Sammy Austin: The
  Barry Shinabery: the time,
  Sammy Austin: timer should be there.
  Barry Shinabery: we have to have maybe a bigger display or something like that, and is it very useful? I mean, are users wants to have the time on the on the remote?
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Barry Shinabery: This is the question.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Probably not.
  Barry Shinabery: Is it useful?
  Jerry Williams: Yes.
  Benjamin Vasquez: It's a questi yeah, it's a trade-off.
  Barry Shinabery: W In my opinion we should have only useful thing and Because
  Benjamin Vasquez: 'Kay.
  Barry Shinabery: apparently they want The simpler
  Sammy Austin: Ah,
  Barry Shinabery: it's is
  Sammy Austin: yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: better.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay simple.
  Sammy Austin: Did you did you ever use the like the timing of turning on the T_V_, well And based on
  Benjamin Vasquez: Very,
  Sammy Austin: your
  Benjamin Vasquez: yeah okay, very occasionally. But I do use the I do use the display of the time quite often,
  Jerry Williams: Mm.
  Benjamin Vasquez: but
  Sammy Austin: Yeah but it can be on the display in in a corner all
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: the time on the remote.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Yeah that's okay, that's true. Okay, so no
  Barry Shinabery: No time
  Benjamin Vasquez: time
  Barry Shinabery: on.
  Benjamin Vasquez: button.
  Jerry Williams: And
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay.
  Jerry Williams: uh do we need to include anything about the speech recognition and the speech commands,
  Sammy Austin: Yes
  Jerry Williams: or?
  Barry Shinabery: I think
  Sammy Austin: yes.
  Jerry Williams: I I thin I think it will not take lots of place, we just need a microphone and the software, so people may be attracted to buy this stuff and it's not very difficult to uh put a software inside the the electronic device and put a microphone. It doesn't take that much place and also that much It doesn't cost that much.
  Barry Shinabery: Yeah.
  Sammy Austin: Yeah but we we should be careful about the battery life, then. If we use
  Barry Shinabery: So
  Sammy Austin: the
  Barry Shinabery: maybe
  Sammy Austin: speech
  Barry Shinabery: we think
  Sammy Austin: recognition.
  Barry Shinabery: we can think more about that, and discuss that maybe last time
  Jerry Williams: Mm-hmm.
  Barry Shinabery: next time.
  Sammy Austin: Yeah.
  Barry Shinabery: And uh yeah, now the meeting room is busy. Somebody booked the meeting room just for at one P_M_, and so we should leave. Uh. So, um. So now we are going for for a small lunch. It's uh funded by the company. And uh after we have uh thirteen minutes to to do indevel individual works. And uh I will do the minutes. And uh you are going to work on your individual works. And uh you will receive as usual your specific instruction and so on.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Okay,
  Barry Shinabery: Thank you everybody.
  Benjamin Vasquez: cool. Okay
  Jerry Williams: Thanks.
  Benjamin Vasquez: Thank you.
Updated Content: Barry Shinabery opened the meeting and then Benjamin Vasquez discussed user requirements. Benjamin Vasquez also found that younger users want an LCD display and a remote capable of speech recognition. The interface specialist discussed the interior workings of a remote and stated a preference for using radio waves over infra-red technology. Sammy Austin discussed particular components that a remote could include. Barry Shinabery briefed the team on some new requirements and initiated a discussion in which the team discussed and decided on various features to include in the remote they will produce.