Extracted Content: Christy Houpe: Hello. Yes, I made it. English from on. Drawing or
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah just testing.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm?
  Irene Papen: Just
  Valarie Heinbach: English.
  Irene Papen: kidding. So annoying.
  Valarie Heinbach: Break is over.
  Christy Houpe: Ooh it works.
  Valarie Heinbach: Whoo. Spicy.
  Christy Houpe: Spicy. Where are are all the other presentations?
  Irene Papen: I just put it in the in the shared folder so
  Christy Houpe: The
  Irene Papen: it should
  Christy Houpe: conceptual
  Irene Papen: be
  Christy Houpe: or
  Irene Papen: yeah I think so. Yeah, conceptual design.
  Christy Houpe: Ah.
  Irene Papen: What or whatever
  Christy Houpe: Because
  Irene Papen: does it
  Christy Houpe: I see only my own presentation
  Irene Papen: No no no, can you go back one?
  Christy Houpe: yeah.
  Irene Papen: Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah
  Christy Houpe: This?
  Irene Papen: components design, that's it.
  Christy Houpe: I'll just put it
  Valarie Heinbach: So,
  Christy Houpe: in there.
  Valarie Heinbach: he's coming.
  Irene Papen: I did
  Christy Houpe: Or not.
  Irene Papen: get a bit more done than the
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Irene Papen: last time,
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh
  Irene Papen: 'cause
  Valarie Heinbach: okay.
  Irene Papen: I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy and paste everything into
  Christy Houpe: Ah,
  Irene Papen: the
  Christy Houpe: I can't
  Valarie Heinbach: Ah.
  Christy Houpe: cut and paste it into
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  Christy Houpe: the
  Valarie Heinbach: You
  Christy Houpe: other
  Valarie Heinbach: can
  Christy Houpe: folder
  Valarie Heinbach: look
  Christy Houpe: but
  Valarie Heinbach: at the final report, 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such, so
  Christy Houpe: Move to
  Valarie Heinbach: I'm
  Christy Houpe: meeting
  Valarie Heinbach: trying
  Christy Houpe: room.
  Valarie Heinbach: to write it down between everything else.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there,
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh.
  Irene Papen: and
  Christy Houpe: Yeah Christy Houpe too,
  Irene Papen: also with I don't know how to use PowerPoint, so it takes Christy Houpe forever to get something done with
  Christina Maceachern: I
  Irene Papen: it.
  Christina Maceachern: I've got the same problem as well.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah. Here we go again. Welcome.
  Irene Papen: Thi
  Valarie Heinbach: we have again three presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the phone has to f the remote control has to support. So
  Irene Papen: Mm-hmm.
  Valarie Heinbach: who wants go.
  Christy Houpe: Yes.
  Irene Papen: Who
  Valarie Heinbach: Yes?
  Irene Papen: wants to start?
  Christy Houpe: Christy Houpe first or
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: Oh.
  Valarie Heinbach: sure.
  Christina Maceachern: No.
  Valarie Heinbach: Doesn't matter.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: No problem
  Christy Houpe: Alright. Did you open it already or
  Valarie Heinbach: No.
  Christy Houpe: no. Ah. Ah. Yes.
  Christy Houpe: So welcome to the marketing presentation once again. Um this time about trendwatching. Uh well there has been inv investigation again, in the in the remote control market. Uh it shows a number of developments. Uh I will address them uh in a moment. Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public, because that's our public. Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing, uh shoes and furniture. And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey. So um the developments I will address them oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours. So to give you an idea. Um well the developments? Uh development one. Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel. Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel. Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface. And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative. Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls. I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um
  Irene Papen: Sound.
  Christy Houpe: and speech recognition, so
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: I
  Irene Papen: yeah
  Christy Houpe: don't
  Irene Papen: uh uh.
  Christy Houpe: expect that to be a problem. And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use. Um Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect. So
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Christy Houpe: um that kind of gets you this ratios. So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention. Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material. Um well technolog technological innovation, we've covered that pretty much I guess. Um and easy to use, I don't think that will be problem. So my point of attention is especially this part. That this
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: will be a crux. So that was the marketing uh presentation. I had only one document left.
  Irene Papen: And shall I go first?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: So
  Christina Maceachern: No. I
  Irene Papen: I
  Christina Maceachern: I don't mi I don't mind. That's
  Christy Houpe: So kind of this
  Irene Papen: Yeah?
  Christina Maceachern: Do you want to go first? Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah yeah sure.
  Christy Houpe: So
  Valarie Heinbach: No.
  Christy Houpe: a k
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: a small example. Kind of this this look. Uh nothing about the buttons but just
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: sponge kind of thing, and and some fruit and colours I dunno. Just made a quick design.
  Valarie Heinbach: Cool.
  Christina Maceachern: It's better
  Christy Houpe: Alright.
  Christina Maceachern: than than
  Irene Papen: Alright.
  Christina Maceachern: my uh drawing.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah you're just the user interface hmm?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Irene Papen: Uh
  Christina Maceachern: okay but I
  Irene Papen: components.
  Christina Maceachern: have to design the
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah layout.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Oh no.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah okay.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. It's okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: You probably opened it.
  Irene Papen: Yeah true. Um
  Valarie Heinbach: F_ five.
  Christy Houpe: F_ five.
  Irene Papen: Alright. So I'm dealing with the components design. Um let's see. I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products. And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design. That's why I had to, wanted to go first. Well they gave Christy Houpe um an idea about what people want. We're f mainly focusing on this group, but I want to make the distinction clear. Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like. But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type. If you, the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh, which looks like fruits you know, you can and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore. So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier. There is a lot of um factors involved in choosing the components. There's a lot of options that we have to discuss. Uh for example the energy source. we have four types. The basic battery. Uh we have a hand dynamo, which we yeah we Dutch refer
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: to it as the kneipgatt. Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing, if you shake it. Which will be fun for toddlers right, if they wanna
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: use the And uh of course solar cells. But I dunno how we would use that into the
  Christy Houpe: Wi
  Irene Papen: design of the actual product. So
  Christy Houpe: an indoors.
  Irene Papen: uh
  Christy Houpe: Oh.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Irene Papen: my
  Valarie Heinbach: okay.
  Irene Papen: yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: Calculator's
  Irene Papen: also
  Valarie Heinbach: can do it.
  Irene Papen: also in you know countries where there's n isn't much light like in Scandinavia, they wouldn't be y able to use it half
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: of the year you know. So
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: that's
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: not cool either. So um for the uh a case, there's uh the traditional uncurved flat hard case. Single curved, which means that it has uh curves in one dimension. Or the double curved. Um I wasn't able to finish my uh personal preferences sheet, but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved 'cause it's daring and different from what we have now.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Uh the case materials. Well we have all kinds of hard uh materials like the the hard plastic, the wood and the titanium. I would definitely go for rubber 'cause it fits most in what people wanna see nowadays.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Um poo, this is a lot of text. I wasn't able to organise this yet. We have yeah several uh interface designs. Uh we can use a scroll buttons for the menus, but we already kind of decided to go for
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: the
  Christina Maceachern: Pushbuttons.
  Irene Papen: f for the pushbuttons,
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: for the the arrow buttons. So that's
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: not really interesting. Electronics? Yeah, maybe we wanna decide on what electronics to use the advanced chip I think is easiest to implement uh for the production, 'cause they they can print it better. Um Yeah. I think this is about it. Yeah I was working on some per personal preferences. I first uh chose for the battery, 'cause yeah I'm traditional and that's the most obvious, easiest choice to go to. But I really think that we should maybe uh think about the kinetic energy, where
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: you have to move the thing to
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: be able to
  Christina Maceachern: As
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: use
  Christina Maceachern: an optional
  Irene Papen: it.
  Christina Maceachern: uh feature. Or combine uh both with with one uh
  Christy Houpe: I
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh
  Christy Houpe: guess
  Valarie Heinbach: I
  Christy Houpe: we
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: can
  Valarie Heinbach: think
  Christy Houpe: only
  Irene Papen: maybe
  Valarie Heinbach: you
  Christy Houpe: choose
  Irene Papen: we
  Valarie Heinbach: can only
  Christy Houpe: one.
  Valarie Heinbach: fit one uh source of energy
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: on the
  Irene Papen: I can imagine that the kinetic uh type energy source would be more expensive to make. But it is more longlasting, that the people don't have to ever buy batteries again.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: And it's more fun.
  Valarie Heinbach: I
  Irene Papen: And
  Valarie Heinbach: didn't
  Irene Papen: it's also
  Valarie Heinbach: receive
  Irene Papen: more fun
  Valarie Heinbach: any
  Irene Papen: yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: info
  Irene Papen: I always chuck
  Valarie Heinbach: uh.
  Irene Papen: my uh remote control
  Christy Houpe: Yeah,
  Irene Papen: around, so
  Christy Houpe: just
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: playing with it and especially when the material's rubber. It can
  Valarie Heinbach: S
  Christy Houpe: be done, I mean,
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah it's
  Christy Houpe: you can't
  Valarie Heinbach: safe.
  Christy Houpe: harm
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: it,
  Irene Papen: y
  Christy Houpe: so it's a
  Christina Maceachern: And
  Christy Houpe: perfect
  Christina Maceachern: throw
  Irene Papen: exactly.
  Christina Maceachern: it.
  Christy Houpe: combination
  Irene Papen: You
  Christy Houpe: I
  Irene Papen: don't
  Christy Houpe: guess.
  Irene Papen: have to be scared about bouncing it off the g floor and breaking it or whatever.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Irene Papen: So that's the end of it.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: So
  Irene Papen: Uh
  Valarie Heinbach: 'Kay next.
  Irene Papen: go ahead.
  Christy Houpe: So double curved is like this, this, this, or
  Irene Papen: No it means curved in two dimensions. So uh w single curved? Uh let's say would be a b square box,
  Christy Houpe: Mm.
  Irene Papen: but then with curves on one dimension.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: And double curved would means that it would have curves
  Christy Houpe: Also in
  Irene Papen: curves
  Christy Houpe: in
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh
  Christy Houpe: height?
  Irene Papen: in every direction.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Irene Papen: Like
  Christy Houpe: okay.
  Irene Papen: three
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay.
  Irene Papen: D_.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Can we uh
  Christina Maceachern: One
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option. We were going to use that.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah. So um Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the
  Irene Papen: Design?
  Valarie Heinbach: Well
  Christina Maceachern: remote control.
  Valarie Heinbach: the visual representation is not
  Christina Maceachern: No okay
  Valarie Heinbach: there with
  Christina Maceachern: but
  Valarie Heinbach: speech
  Christina Maceachern: it
  Valarie Heinbach: but
  Christina Maceachern: has
  Valarie Heinbach: you
  Christina Maceachern: to be
  Valarie Heinbach: can
  Christina Maceachern: combined with with the menu uh for functions and
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: So
  Valarie Heinbach: Just
  Christina Maceachern: okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah. I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: that are already present.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: So
  Christy Houpe: Yeah with
  Valarie Heinbach: I don't
  Christy Houpe: the programme.
  Valarie Heinbach: think you have to design anything
  Christina Maceachern: But do uh j do
  Valarie Heinbach: else
  Christina Maceachern: we
  Valarie Heinbach: for that.
  Christina Maceachern: uh do the speech just for the basic options, for the simple buttons?
  Valarie Heinbach: Both.
  Christina Maceachern: For for everything, also for
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: the advanced options? Okay. Uh we have this very uh basic uh trendy design. Everybody says it so that's what's uh yeah um Yeah in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated. That's yeah obvious. Um yeah. Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control. And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah
  Christy Houpe: And
  Christina Maceachern: the options.
  Christy Houpe: and the and the buttons that you need to
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: control
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: it, I guess.
  Christina Maceachern: Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your yeah. you have to uh delete this but this
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: is the the the simple uh layout. Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button.
  Valarie Heinbach: That
  Christina Maceachern: I'm
  Valarie Heinbach: would be the back.
  Christina Maceachern: The
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: back.
  Valarie Heinbach: Back and okay.
  Christy Houpe: Back
  Christina Maceachern: Back
  Christy Houpe: and okay.
  Christina Maceachern: and okay yeah. Uh
  Valarie Heinbach: You did read the minutes I wrote?
  Christina Maceachern: What?
  Valarie Heinbach: You did read the minutes I wrote?
  Christina Maceachern: A little
  Irene Papen: I
  Christina Maceachern: bit I think but not not
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh okay
  Christina Maceachern: everything w
  Valarie Heinbach: 'cause I pretty much summed up all the buttons there
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: were. So
  Christina Maceachern: Oh I uh didn't read that.
  Valarie Heinbach: I hate
  Christina Maceachern: But
  Valarie Heinbach: doing work for nothing.
  Christina Maceachern: But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons. Um I wanted to to categorise everything. Uh with a speech display uh yeah, sound, everything you you noted in your uh minutes. Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light. So
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Christina Maceachern: you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people. And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous so that's an a also an option. Um that was it.
  Valarie Heinbach: That was it?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay. Uh again. Ugh.
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use? Uh energy source, chip type, case type. And user interface. But I didn't see a clear distinction between these so I think what we have is okay. So we only, we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy.
  Christy Houpe: No.
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh the case would be doubly curved.
  Christy Houpe: Rubber
  Valarie Heinbach: So
  Irene Papen: And
  Christy Houpe: material.
  Irene Papen: rubber. Rubber material.
  Valarie Heinbach: Rubber material. And that's the only thing we have left.
  Irene Papen: Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh okay.
  Irene Papen: and f
  Valarie Heinbach: No it's easy.
  Irene Papen: audio function.
  Christy Houpe: So that's uh is that is that the advanced chip?
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Advanced
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: chip.
  Christy Houpe: Wow.
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay.
  Irene Papen: you would have a simple chip, just for pressing
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: buttons. But we need more.
  Christy Houpe: Alright. Kinetic.
  Irene Papen: I'm just thinking,
  Valarie Heinbach: Too.
  Christy Houpe: Double
  Irene Papen: this
  Christy Houpe: curved.
  Irene Papen: is not my department, but I I'm not sure what this is gonna cost, to be able to
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh
  Irene Papen: m
  Valarie Heinbach: I didn't get any info on this. So
  Irene Papen: So 'cause we need to sell it for twenty five Euro a piece.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: That's gonna be difficult huh?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: The cost of making it should be twelve and a half?
  Valarie Heinbach: I have total
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: here.
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Irene Papen: yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: I
  Irene Papen: yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: don't know. I didn't get any information about that
  Christina Maceachern: We're
  Valarie Heinbach: so
  Christina Maceachern: going to produce it in uh China so it's no problem.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Child labour man, we love it.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah, so it's
  Valarie Heinbach: Who doesn't.
  Christy Houpe: cheap.
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh let's see. Is there a new thing?
  Christy Houpe: Um well the interface type supplements.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah the interface, maybe can
  Christina Maceachern: Uh it's it's quite
  Valarie Heinbach: Ooh.
  Christina Maceachern: difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh
  Valarie Heinbach: No. Uh
  Christina Maceachern: yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: do you have a picture of doubly curved case? And could you put that in the group folder?
  Irene Papen: Um
  Valarie Heinbach: Of the project folder.
  Irene Papen: let Christy Houpe see. Wait a sec.
  Christy Houpe: If you go to your homepage or something, you should
  Irene Papen: Yeah I'm going there now.
  Christy Houpe: get your own information.
  Irene Papen: Inspiration.
  Christy Houpe: I got my fresh and fyoo fruity uh picture uh also uh
  Irene Papen: Well
  Christy Houpe: over there,
  Valarie Heinbach: Ah
  Christy Houpe: so
  Valarie Heinbach: you didn't draw it yourself.
  Christy Houpe: No.
  Valarie Heinbach: Ah.
  Christy Houpe: Too less time.
  Irene Papen: Um
  Christy Houpe: Yeah,
  Irene Papen: yeah maybe
  Christy Houpe: also the
  Irene Papen: it's
  Christy Houpe: menu. Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: that that
  Christina Maceachern: This
  Christy Houpe: w
  Christina Maceachern: is the the menu I was
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: uh looking uh
  Christy Houpe: Yeah I
  Irene Papen: Maybe
  Christy Houpe: was thinking
  Irene Papen: it's easier
  Christy Houpe: of that
  Christina Maceachern: at.
  Christy Houpe: also, with with a
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: with a
  Valarie Heinbach: Arrow.
  Christy Houpe: uh arrow.
  Christina Maceachern: Arrow yeah.
  Christy Houpe: So
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: that indicates that there's an menu under that menu.
  Irene Papen: Yeah. Yeah perfect.
  Christy Houpe: So
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Maybe
  Valarie Heinbach: 'S
  Irene Papen: it's easier
  Valarie Heinbach: the target
  Irene Papen: if you guys
  Valarie Heinbach: group.
  Irene Papen: come
  Christina Maceachern: S
  Irene Papen: over
  Christina Maceachern: yeah.
  Irene Papen: here. S
  Christy Houpe: Oh
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: yeah.
  Irene Papen: see
  Valarie Heinbach: sure.
  Irene Papen: this is the the the standard traditional type, where the form uh yeah serves the function, you know. It's like really basic. But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: want that. This is what we're looking for. And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions.
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh okay.
  Irene Papen: Not only
  Valarie Heinbach: I
  Irene Papen: like
  Valarie Heinbach: see.
  Irene Papen: this but
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah also like
  Irene Papen: it has
  Valarie Heinbach: this.
  Irene Papen: to
  Valarie Heinbach: So
  Irene Papen: be
  Valarie Heinbach: you can hold it.
  Irene Papen: exactly. It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation, the module. It has to be like the the Game Cube, you know, where
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to
  Christina Maceachern: But
  Irene Papen: be
  Christina Maceachern: it
  Irene Papen: nice
  Christina Maceachern: has also
  Irene Papen: to hold.
  Christina Maceachern: to it
  Irene Papen: And
  Christina Maceachern: it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people. Th
  Irene Papen: It ha
  Christina Maceachern: this looks a little bit like like for
  Valarie Heinbach: The
  Christina Maceachern: only
  Valarie Heinbach: children's
  Christina Maceachern: for children.
  Valarie Heinbach: story. Yeah I've
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: got
  Irene Papen: but
  Valarie Heinbach: it.
  Irene Papen: that's
  Christina Maceachern: So
  Irene Papen: that's the
  Valarie Heinbach: Distinction.
  Irene Papen: the problem
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: uh yeah the dilemma actually, 'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours, and with a lot of shape. And Yeah,
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: and the and
  Christina Maceachern: The
  Irene Papen: the rubber,
  Christina Maceachern: colour
  Irene Papen: it it will look cheap always,
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah. Okay
  Irene Papen: you know,
  Christina Maceachern: but
  Irene Papen: with the
  Christina Maceachern: the the colours, you you can make it uh make the colours with LEDs uh beneath the the buttons. If you
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Christina Maceachern: press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it.
  Christy Houpe: Mm.
  Irene Papen: There is mobile phones, in which you can change the colour also of the
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: lights. Maybe we should consider this function.
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: To customise it and so I mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colours
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: and people who want something, you know,
  Valarie Heinbach: Different.
  Irene Papen: different, or more uh design,
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: they can go for one colour like uh for example this uh photo
  Valarie Heinbach: Camera.
  Irene Papen: th camera.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. Cool. S underwater
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: uh
  Valarie Heinbach: submarine.
  Christy Houpe: yeah.
  Irene Papen: Personally I think it's really ugly.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Just
  Valarie Heinbach: Well
  Irene Papen: give Christy Houpe the thing that it's inside there
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: maybe
  Christina Maceachern: Very
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Irene Papen: I'm
  Christina Maceachern: cheap
  Valarie Heinbach: but
  Irene Papen: too old
  Valarie Heinbach: this
  Christina Maceachern: uh
  Irene Papen: for
  Christina Maceachern: cheap
  Irene Papen: this
  Valarie Heinbach: this
  Irene Papen: stuff.
  Christina Maceachern: look.
  Valarie Heinbach: the is for the.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay.
  Irene Papen: So
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh
  Irene Papen: those I think are all my oh.
  Valarie Heinbach: Ah yeah bright colours.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. Also a
  Irene Papen: And
  Christy Houpe: kind
  Irene Papen: this
  Christy Houpe: of
  Irene Papen: is,
  Christy Houpe: rubber uh
  Irene Papen: this is with the curved that I mean.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: That's singly curved.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay.
  Irene Papen: Yeah?
  Christy Houpe: That should be nice.
  Valarie Heinbach: Well we could make a compromise between that. But I don't know if it's worth the effort.
  Irene Papen: A compromise between what?
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh instead of doubly curved we take a single curved. So to
  Christy Houpe: So
  Valarie Heinbach: appeal
  Christy Houpe: s
  Valarie Heinbach: a
  Irene Papen: This,
  Valarie Heinbach: little more to the
  Irene Papen: this
  Valarie Heinbach: all
  Irene Papen: would
  Valarie Heinbach: the public.
  Irene Papen: be uh single curved uh?
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah there's only in in this dimension.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Like this.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: So curvy or not.
  Valarie Heinbach: Also.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Irene Papen: Exactly. Exactly.
  Christy Houpe: so we keep it singly c single curved then?
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah that would be an option. I don't know what you think.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: I think the I mean our aim is to make something different right? To
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: make something new.
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: I would go for the double curved.
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay.
  Irene Papen: And
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Irene Papen: I I'm
  Valarie Heinbach: I'd agree.
  Irene Papen: I'm thinking uh you know uh a drawing palette,
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: where you have the shape for your thumb. So it kind of holds nicely, something
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: like that.
  Christina Maceachern: but if
  Irene Papen: Well
  Christina Maceachern: you
  Irene Papen: this
  Christina Maceachern: if
  Irene Papen: is
  Christina Maceachern: you make
  Irene Papen: really
  Christina Maceachern: it
  Irene Papen: your
  Christina Maceachern: more
  Irene Papen: decision
  Christina Maceachern: curved
  Irene Papen: but
  Christina Maceachern: we we can make more and more options for buttons. If you have uh it have it in your hand, you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons.
  Irene Papen: Yeah. As well. You can make a trigger button
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: or something like that.
  Christina Maceachern: Something to shoot at your television
  Irene Papen: Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: something,
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: that you scroll with your thumb, with the arrows,
  Christina Maceachern: That's
  Irene Papen: and then confirm.
  Christina Maceachern: yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: That would be a nice way to use it but I mean, yeah, I'm thinking big already, and we need something
  Valarie Heinbach: Different.
  Irene Papen: that well that
  Valarie Heinbach: Stands
  Irene Papen: that you
  Valarie Heinbach: out.
  Irene Papen: can able to use in
  Valarie Heinbach: Or
  Irene Papen: one hand I think.
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh yeah a one hand uh
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: solution.
  Christy Houpe: So from top view it looks kinda like this. But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape. Maybe because
  Valarie Heinbach: can
  Christy Houpe: the
  Valarie Heinbach: turn it
  Christy Houpe: the screen
  Valarie Heinbach: maybe.
  Christy Houpe: is on top you
  Valarie Heinbach: To switch
  Christy Houpe: can have
  Valarie Heinbach: from buttons to interface hmm. If you turn it a little.
  Christy Houpe: Maybe you can c have this kind of shape. A little upwards. So that the screen is more
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh yeah. Least you
  Christy Houpe: towards
  Valarie Heinbach: can easily
  Christy Houpe: yourself,
  Valarie Heinbach: see it.
  Christy Houpe: so you can easily see your screen.
  Irene Papen: How
  Christy Houpe: Well well
  Irene Papen: about
  Christy Houpe: you have it in your hand so it's a kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen. So this this
  Irene Papen: Mm-hmm.
  Christy Houpe: is so the screen is positioned over here. Oh. Something like that. And the buttons are more, well it's very thick now but
  Irene Papen: Yeah I understand what you mean.
  Christy Houpe: That's uh
  Irene Papen: How
  Christy Houpe: that's
  Irene Papen: about we do a uh a pop-up screen, like the laptop.
  Valarie Heinbach: If
  Irene Papen: So
  Valarie Heinbach: you can
  Irene Papen: that
  Valarie Heinbach: uh flip.
  Irene Papen: the only the simple functions will be visible at first.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah? That
  Irene Papen: And
  Christy Houpe: that
  Irene Papen: then
  Christy Houpe: you can
  Irene Papen: if
  Christy Houpe: press
  Irene Papen: you want
  Christy Houpe: it and then it comes up? Or
  Irene Papen: Yeah. Something like that.
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh so you have a the the side view.
  Christy Houpe: But then the side view can be straight. If you have a pop-up screen. But I dunno if that's too expensive.
  Valarie Heinbach: So
  Christy Houpe: I
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: and
  Christy Houpe: mean
  Valarie Heinbach: you
  Christy Houpe: maybe
  Valarie Heinbach: want
  Christy Houpe: it's
  Valarie Heinbach: to
  Christy Houpe: too much
  Valarie Heinbach: be able to make this.
  Irene Papen: No uh like I would draw it like this. Let's say this is the side view. That you have a a screen that will come up here, and can go down that way. If you know what I mean.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Irene Papen: So that it would come
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: up like that.
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay so the buttons are on top here, and you flip it over that
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: way.
  Irene Papen: or preferably even keep the simple buttons here,
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: and then under the screen even you
  Christy Houpe: Oh
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh
  Irene Papen: could put
  Christy Houpe: the advanced
  Irene Papen: more
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah. Yeah
  Irene Papen: more
  Christy Houpe: buttons.
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah
  Irene Papen: advanced
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah
  Irene Papen: buttons.
  Christy Houpe: Right.
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah. Right.
  Christina Maceachern: That's
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah that's good
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: idea.
  Christina Maceachern: the the more advanced options were uh for the for the menu.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: But
  Irene Papen: F
  Christina Maceachern: you
  Irene Papen: for
  Christina Maceachern: you
  Irene Papen: the
  Christina Maceachern: want
  Irene Papen: L_C_D_ menu
  Christina Maceachern: okay.
  Irene Papen: right?
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: You just
  Irene Papen: So
  Christina Maceachern: want to hide them all? The
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: No not all
  Irene Papen: w
  Christina Maceachern: oh.
  Valarie Heinbach: because
  Irene Papen: w
  Valarie Heinbach: you need most of them, the arrow buttons. But you can hide the okay and the back
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: uh
  Christina Maceachern: yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: button.
  Christina Maceachern: yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: And the menu button also because when you flip it open
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate
  Irene Papen: Oh
  Valarie Heinbach: amauto uh uh automatically.
  Irene Papen: Activate and th the yeah.
  Christy Houpe: So okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this
  Valarie Heinbach: Why? You
  Christy Houpe: open.
  Valarie Heinbach: could
  Irene Papen: True.
  Valarie Heinbach: just
  Irene Papen: True.
  Valarie Heinbach: make it mechanical.
  Irene Papen: But you can make a, yeah, you can make a trigger here. You
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: know a simple uh
  Christy Houpe: Yeah and
  Irene Papen: with
  Christy Houpe: it
  Irene Papen: a
  Christy Houpe: says menu and it flips open and
  Christina Maceachern: That's
  Christy Houpe: then you have the buttons to control
  Christina Maceachern: but it's it's
  Christy Houpe: it, in combination
  Christina Maceachern: not
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: with your
  Christina Maceachern: it's not very uh
  Irene Papen: Exactly.
  Christina Maceachern: very strong uh yeah if you drop it one time.
  Christy Houpe: True. It uh c it can
  Irene Papen: Well
  Christy Houpe: go open.
  Irene Papen: yeah the the idea
  Valarie Heinbach: If you
  Irene Papen: of
  Valarie Heinbach: cover
  Irene Papen: it was,
  Valarie Heinbach: it with rubber.
  Irene Papen: is that because you close it, you cover the L_C_D_ screen and it won't be vulnerable to scratches or whatever.
  Christy Houpe: An adv
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Christy Houpe: an
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm.
  Christy Houpe: adv and it will be
  Irene Papen: And
  Christy Houpe: covered in some kind of uh thin rubber layer or something
  Irene Papen: Exactly.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: like that.
  Valarie Heinbach: So
  Irene Papen: Exactly.
  Valarie Heinbach: it can bounce.
  Irene Papen: We just have to
  Christy Houpe: Yeah,
  Irene Papen: make sure that the closing
  Christy Houpe: uh
  Irene Papen: mechanism
  Christy Houpe: It's
  Irene Papen: won't
  Christy Houpe: very
  Irene Papen: break.
  Christy Houpe: no it's
  Irene Papen: Th
  Christy Houpe: very
  Irene Papen: it's
  Christy Houpe: strong.
  Irene Papen: very solid
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: okay so that that may work.
  Irene Papen: That actually will offer some extra
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay
  Irene Papen: protection
  Valarie Heinbach: but then we still
  Irene Papen: for
  Valarie Heinbach: have
  Irene Papen: the
  Valarie Heinbach: the the the thing of the the the shape.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: What
  Irene Papen: I was
  Valarie Heinbach: kind of
  Irene Papen: thinking, if if you have your hand, it this is your th
  Valarie Heinbach: Harder.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess, so maybe you should try it over there.
  Irene Papen: Okay. If this is your thumb, and this is your hand like that. With your uh wrist. That you, that it would be kind of shape like this, you know. So it's easier to hold in your hand, to
  Christina Maceachern: But
  Irene Papen: y
  Christina Maceachern: when
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: you are
  Irene Papen: f
  Christina Maceachern: left-handed, that's that's a problem.
  Irene Papen: Uh yeah. Yeah of course. Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: Maybe
  Irene Papen: then w
  Valarie Heinbach: can design
  Irene Papen: then you would
  Valarie Heinbach: two versions.
  Irene Papen: have to
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: But that's
  Irene Papen: to make
  Christina Maceachern: that's
  Irene Papen: it like
  Christina Maceachern: very expensive
  Irene Papen: this. Like
  Christina Maceachern: uh
  Irene Papen: like you drew here.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: And maybe th then make this thicker also than the centre. Give it
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm. And
  Irene Papen: I would
  Valarie Heinbach: ergonomical
  Irene Papen: give it a female
  Valarie Heinbach: shape.
  Irene Papen: shape but uh
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: yeah. Anyway.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: The female shape yeah. With two
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Obviously.
  Christina Maceachern: We we could make some some
  Irene Papen: Make
  Christina Maceachern: rubber
  Irene Papen: it more appealing
  Christina Maceachern: uh
  Valarie Heinbach: uh
  Irene Papen: to
  Christina Maceachern: some
  Irene Papen: guys.
  Christina Maceachern: rubber uh yeah
  Irene Papen: I mean
  Christina Maceachern: mouse, with which you can change
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh
  Christina Maceachern: uh
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah. Some
  Christina Maceachern: and
  Valarie Heinbach: uh
  Christina Maceachern: so if you
  Valarie Heinbach: k esk uh yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah but but that's optional for later I guess. I
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: mean, we have to
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: make
  Irene Papen: but we have hardware inside, which is so it has to have some sort of
  Christina Maceachern: Some
  Irene Papen: basic shape.
  Christina Maceachern: yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: we we better
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah.
  Irene Papen: And
  Christy Houpe: so
  Irene Papen: also
  Christy Houpe: choose
  Irene Papen: the screen,
  Christy Houpe: one
  Irene Papen: you cannot mould it. You
  Christina Maceachern: No
  Irene Papen: know
  Christina Maceachern: no no
  Irene Papen: kind
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: no.
  Irene Papen: of thing.
  Christy Houpe: so okay we should better choose one sh one shape.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: But that's the kind of the idea, so it lays good in the hand, and then
  Irene Papen: And then
  Christy Houpe: on
  Irene Papen: you can
  Christy Houpe: on the side with with your
  Irene Papen: You
  Christy Houpe: thumb,
  Irene Papen: can place the screen
  Christy Houpe: you
  Irene Papen: here,
  Christy Houpe: you can
  Irene Papen: which can
  Christy Houpe: you can
  Irene Papen: come.
  Christy Houpe: use, yeah, you
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: can use the button option
  Irene Papen: And but then I w I
  Valarie Heinbach: spongey?
  Irene Papen: would
  Christy Houpe: Spongey.
  Irene Papen: I would do the arrows here, kind of thing.
  Christy Houpe: Spongey can be reached
  Irene Papen: Those buttons?
  Christy Houpe: by means of
  Irene Papen: And the simple buttons here, so
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: that
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: And and the and the control thngs in the middle? The the
  Irene Papen: I Uh
  Christy Houpe: the
  Irene Papen: y
  Christy Houpe: arrows?
  Irene Papen: eah
  Christina Maceachern: No
  Irene Papen: that's
  Christina Maceachern: the
  Irene Papen: what
  Christina Maceachern: arrow's
  Irene Papen: I mean. The
  Christina Maceachern: over
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: arrows
  Christina Maceachern: here.
  Irene Papen: over here,
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: and
  Christy Houpe: and then
  Irene Papen: here the
  Christy Houpe: numbers.
  Valarie Heinbach: Buttons.
  Irene Papen: s simple uh
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. Alright.
  Valarie Heinbach: I think that uh
  Christy Houpe: Uh
  Valarie Heinbach: it's a nice design.
  Christy Houpe: pretty nice design. Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: It's cool.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah it looks uh pretty fancy.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: or do we wanna make its shape look like a banana or something? I dunno.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah that's
  Christy Houpe: Uh bananas wierd shape and other fruits also, so
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: it's better to have um some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary uh colours.
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: I
  Irene Papen: we
  Christy Houpe: don't
  Irene Papen: could
  Christy Houpe: know
  Irene Papen: make
  Christy Houpe: what what colours should the basic print be like? Like some soft
  Valarie Heinbach: Orange or
  Christy Houpe: green
  Valarie Heinbach: something.
  Christy Houpe: or something? Or
  Christina Maceachern: Or blue?
  Christy Houpe: and then
  Christina Maceachern: Dark blue or
  Christy Houpe: Oh yeah yeah, dark blue and then
  Irene Papen: We should use
  Christy Houpe: and then very bright, uh a yellow
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: banana, an orange, uh a green apple, stuff like that, with very uh bright tones I guess.
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm.
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: So
  Irene Papen: w
  Christy Houpe: you have
  Irene Papen: we
  Christy Houpe: something
  Irene Papen: need very
  Christy Houpe: like
  Irene Papen: primary colours, like
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: bright red, bright yellow.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah but the primary colours w we can uh create with the with the LEDs on the on the remote
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: control.
  Irene Papen: Yeah okay
  Christina Maceachern: If
  Irene Papen: yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: you we uh yeah. If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour, then it's just a neutral colour, also for the for the more uh yeah for the people.
  Christy Houpe: Mm. That
  Valarie Heinbach: Huh
  Christy Houpe: doesn't
  Valarie Heinbach: cool.
  Christy Houpe: really work. To draw,
  Valarie Heinbach: No it's.
  Christy Houpe: I guess. Oh. What's
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: this?
  Valarie Heinbach: it's text.
  Christy Houpe: Right.
  Valarie Heinbach: N
  Christy Houpe: Hm.
  Valarie Heinbach: no you have to exit. You
  Christina Maceachern: So
  Valarie Heinbach: could
  Christina Maceachern: that's
  Valarie Heinbach: also make line with uh
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. Two hours further.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: thickness. Oh.
  Christina Maceachern: So that's blue.
  Christy Houpe: Oh. Wh why not go for the twenty?
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm. Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: Mm.
  Christy Houpe: That's
  Valarie Heinbach: Y
  Christy Houpe: what I call painting. So that's that's a dark blue basic colour
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: I guess.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah and then on
  Christy Houpe: It's pretty
  Valarie Heinbach: top
  Christy Houpe: nice.
  Valarie Heinbach: of that.
  Christy Houpe: And then uh Oh
  Valarie Heinbach: Some
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: yellow.
  Christy Houpe: with some some yellow banana
  Valarie Heinbach: Banana colour.
  Christy Houpe: Like.
  Irene Papen: And how about some uh some flashing standby lights? Like you have on the Samsung, well I don't like to call brands phones, the you know that 'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah?
  Irene Papen: So it not not only in in the colours of the LEDs, that we want something to keep it visible at all times, or
  Christy Houpe: How do you mean?
  Irene Papen: Um
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: Some
  Valarie Heinbach: if
  Christy Houpe: some
  Valarie Heinbach: you
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: if flashing colour so you can't lose it, basically.
  Irene Papen: Yeah. Exactly.
  Valarie Heinbach: Well I
  Christina Maceachern: Maybe
  Valarie Heinbach: think
  Christina Maceachern: a
  Valarie Heinbach: it's a bit too much but
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah an orange. Well alright well this
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: is more like purple I guess, but
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: it's should be more real dark blue, so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is uh pretty
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: high.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: So uh yeah. That would be a nice uh nice device
  Christina Maceachern: And
  Christy Houpe: I guess.
  Christina Maceachern: which which colour should uh should I give the the display? Uh Or
  Valarie Heinbach: Who?
  Christy Houpe: I mean, the the colour of the background of the
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: display?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a
  Valarie Heinbach: And then you
  Christy Houpe: sixty
  Valarie Heinbach: can use yellow
  Christy Houpe: uh
  Valarie Heinbach: or semething.
  Christy Houpe: sixty six five thousand uh
  Valarie Heinbach: Why
  Christy Houpe: colour,
  Valarie Heinbach: not?
  Christy Houpe: so yeah too expensive.
  Valarie Heinbach: Aye.
  Christy Houpe: So
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: just just a a blue blue
  Christina Maceachern: Mm.
  Christy Houpe: backlight or
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: something like that. Green is too old-fashioned. But blue,
  Irene Papen: As
  Christy Houpe: blue's
  Irene Papen: long
  Christy Houpe: okay.
  Irene Papen: as you loo
  Christy Houpe: J
  Irene Papen: use uh high contrast between the the background and the foreground colour.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah maybe
  Irene Papen: So
  Valarie Heinbach: Like
  Irene Papen: that
  Christina Maceachern: a
  Irene Papen: people
  Valarie Heinbach: this.
  Irene Papen: with
  Christina Maceachern: maybe
  Irene Papen: uh
  Christina Maceachern: a white
  Irene Papen: with
  Christina Maceachern: a white backlight?
  Christy Houpe: White backlight, and dark.
  Christina Maceachern: Dark uh letters, yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. Whatever which is visible.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: I know you sh you should test it under uh under a light conditions. I mean it's hard
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: to tell
  Irene Papen: And also
  Christy Houpe: uh I
  Irene Papen: for
  Christy Houpe: dunno.
  Irene Papen: people who are a bit colourblind.
  Valarie Heinbach: Colourblind yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. True.
  Valarie Heinbach: No so that's mostly red and green I believe.
  Christy Houpe: Which which uh colour should the buttons be?
  Christina Maceachern: That's adjustable.
  Valarie Heinbach: Woah.
  Christy Houpe: Why
  Valarie Heinbach: All
  Christy Houpe: adjustable?
  Valarie Heinbach: all buttons?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah? Or
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay.
  Christy Houpe: No
  Christina Maceachern: not.
  Christy Houpe: uh
  Christina Maceachern: That's how we are going to make it uh more trendy. Or is
  Christy Houpe: But
  Christina Maceachern: it uh too expensive?
  Christy Houpe: maybe I mean they
  Valarie Heinbach: It's
  Christy Houpe: have
  Valarie Heinbach: difficult.
  Christy Houpe: to they have to have some colour right? And if the background is
  Valarie Heinbach: Blue.
  Christy Houpe: very dark blue
  Valarie Heinbach: Maybe green.
  Irene Papen: But don't we wanna make the background the the bright colo colours? So th the total
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Irene Papen: of the
  Valarie Heinbach: you can
  Irene Papen: thing is very bright? Like the pictures I showed you guys. Those
  Christy Houpe: Yeah?
  Irene Papen: things were all like like
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm
  Irene Papen: bright
  Valarie Heinbach: flashy.
  Irene Papen: red, bright red, flashy.
  Christy Houpe: So more like
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm bzz.
  Christy Houpe: Doesn't work very well. Uh. More like this colour.
  Irene Papen: Yeah something like that, something that
  Christy Houpe: And then
  Irene Papen: stands out more.
  Christy Houpe: then yellow and orange and red objects on it
  Christina Maceachern: Mm.
  Christy Houpe: or something.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: But then then again, which colour should the buttons be? The the press buttons. Should they be white or black or
  Valarie Heinbach: Red maybe.
  Christina Maceachern: And it it looks
  Christy Houpe: Uh
  Christina Maceachern: quite
  Valarie Heinbach: Black.
  Christina Maceachern: cheap, that colour I think. It's it's not
  Irene Papen: The green?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: Why?
  Christy Houpe: but it's pretty
  Christina Maceachern: I dunno.
  Christy Houpe: fresh, on the
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: other side.
  Valarie Heinbach: So
  Irene Papen: It's actually a pretty trendy colour at the moment.
  Christina Maceachern: It's it's trendy okay.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: But
  Christy Houpe: My couch
  Christina Maceachern: Mm.
  Christy Houpe: is in that colour.
  Valarie Heinbach: Ooh.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. Well
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: it works pretty well. And then time was up.
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh not yet.
  Christy Houpe: Uh.
  Irene Papen: Do you get a pop-up if
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Irene Papen: we
  Valarie Heinbach: within five minutes yeah.
  Christy Houpe: That
  Irene Papen: Alright.
  Christy Houpe: you have five minutes
  Valarie Heinbach: Y left
  Christy Houpe: left or
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah left and then uh I have to kick you
  Christy Houpe: So
  Valarie Heinbach: out.
  Christy Houpe: something like this.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: That should be pretty nice colour. But maybe the buttons, all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: people.
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah.
  Irene Papen: No
  Christy Houpe: Because
  Irene Papen: that's
  Christy Houpe: the
  Irene Papen: actu
  Christy Houpe: of the
  Christina Maceachern: But
  Christy Houpe: green.
  Christina Maceachern: the but the buttons have their own LEDs or not?
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: They have LEDs but they
  Irene Papen: Red
  Valarie Heinbach: have a colour.
  Irene Papen: and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate. Even for colourblind.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah?
  Irene Papen: They will see one of each as grey.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: But if you use uh green on blue, those kind of colours will look the same.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Christy Houpe: Okay.
  Irene Papen: I think.
  Christy Houpe: So red buttons are okay?
  Irene Papen: I think so.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay. That
  Valarie Heinbach: You can
  Christina Maceachern: that's
  Valarie Heinbach: make
  Christina Maceachern: a
  Valarie Heinbach: them
  Christina Maceachern: default
  Valarie Heinbach: red.
  Christina Maceachern: uh setting. The the red buttons.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah. But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light.
  Christy Houpe: How do you mean? Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh they they don't determine the colour
  Christina Maceachern: Okay. Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: that much,
  Christina Maceachern: I I
  Valarie Heinbach: I
  Christina Maceachern: was
  Valarie Heinbach: think.
  Christina Maceachern: think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and
  Valarie Heinbach: 'Cause
  Christy Houpe: No
  Valarie Heinbach: you have to
  Christy Houpe: that's that's
  Valarie Heinbach: print
  Christy Houpe: too
  Valarie Heinbach: on
  Christy Houpe: busy
  Valarie Heinbach: them you
  Christy Houpe: I guess.
  Valarie Heinbach: have
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: a background. Each number is transparent.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh partly but you have to print on the number. Or the the sign.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: So you can't
  Christy Houpe: You better
  Valarie Heinbach: change
  Christy Houpe: bet
  Valarie Heinbach: the colour so
  Christy Houpe: better better keep the LED and the button itself in the same colour
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: I guess. So just an extra
  Valarie Heinbach: Bit of light.
  Irene Papen: You can
  Christy Houpe: bit of light
  Irene Papen: what
  Christy Houpe: and
  Irene Papen: we
  Christy Houpe: attention.
  Irene Papen: should
  Valarie Heinbach: Bit
  Irene Papen: do
  Valarie Heinbach: of feedback.
  Irene Papen: I think is is make kind of a see-through plastic button, with
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: uh one coloured LED behind it.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: So that the whole button will shine
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: as the colour the And if you think about easy to use buttons, we have to, well we have to make it the shape so that it's easy to hold f for both hands, but also that you can reach the buttons
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm-hmm.
  Irene Papen: with your thumb,
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: if
  Valarie Heinbach: Okay
  Irene Papen: you hold
  Valarie Heinbach: with
  Irene Papen: the machine.
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh Don't mean to discourage you but uh basically you two are going to work on the smartboard. Next thirty minutes to design
  Irene Papen: Ah, right.
  Valarie Heinbach: something so
  Christy Houpe: Alright.
  Valarie Heinbach: And the You will do the evaluation.
  Christy Houpe: Of the product?
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Which we don't have yet.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah uh about
  Christy Houpe: So wh how should I do that?
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah I don't know.
  Christy Houpe: Oh
  Valarie Heinbach: You
  Christy Houpe: okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: probably get a mail.
  Christy Houpe: Or you you or you send it to Christy Houpe. Or just because
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: you are
  Valarie Heinbach: Once
  Christy Houpe: going
  Valarie Heinbach: they
  Christy Houpe: to
  Valarie Heinbach: are finished.
  Christy Houpe: design it
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: on this board right?
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: I don't know.
  Christy Houpe: I I probably get instruction on that,
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: how to do that, so I make another presentation I guess.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: I kn I know what's gonna happen in
  Valarie Heinbach: About.
  Christy Houpe: in
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: yeah so
  Valarie Heinbach: You have the basic idea.
  Christy Houpe: I've a basic idea.
  Valarie Heinbach: And you two uh are going to do this.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: So
  Valarie Heinbach: Look-and-feel
  Irene Papen: we're gonna work
  Valarie Heinbach: and
  Irene Papen: here? On this sketchboard?
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: Good
  Irene Papen: Alright.
  Valarie Heinbach: luck.
  Irene Papen: Thanks.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. Alright so that's
  Valarie Heinbach: So
  Christy Houpe: uh
  Valarie Heinbach: I uh make new page and uh be creative.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Alright.
  Christina Maceachern: But we have to do it at this moment, after
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: th this
  Valarie Heinbach: you
  Christina Maceachern: meeting?
  Valarie Heinbach: have uh
  Irene Papen: Thirty minutes.
  Valarie Heinbach: thirty minutes.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: Then we have to uh see something
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: which we
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: can
  Irene Papen: Alright.
  Valarie Heinbach: uh
  Christina Maceachern: Ah
  Valarie Heinbach: show
  Christina Maceachern: so this
  Valarie Heinbach: to the
  Christina Maceachern: is
  Valarie Heinbach: management.
  Christina Maceachern: basically the what what we are thinking about?
  Irene Papen: Yeah. Shall
  Valarie Heinbach: I would
  Irene Papen: we uh
  Valarie Heinbach: yeah.
  Irene Papen: make a new uh
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: l
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: let's just uh delete all
  Valarie Heinbach: Next.
  Christina Maceachern: these uh or
  Irene Papen: Yeah, I just
  Christina Maceachern: Oh, next.
  Irene Papen: make a new one.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Alright.
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh and save this uh board.
  Irene Papen: Huh?
  Valarie Heinbach: Just
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: save
  Irene Papen: I'll just
  Valarie Heinbach: it.
  Irene Papen: I'll just keep it there.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah okay but just press save and uh
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: It'll be fine.
  Christy Houpe: On the left. S so, yeah.
  Irene Papen: Uh sorry.
  Valarie Heinbach: You can also include clip-art.
  Irene Papen: Okay.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Current
  Valarie Heinbach: So if you'll
  Irene Papen: colour?
  Valarie Heinbach: rather draw in paint or something
  Irene Papen: So um
  Christina Maceachern: Okay. Uh
  Irene Papen: Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Because
  Christina Maceachern: And then after
  Irene Papen: I
  Christina Maceachern: that we
  Irene Papen: I
  Christina Maceachern: can make the user uh inter interface.
  Valarie Heinbach: then look.
  Irene Papen: Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the
  Christy Houpe: This?
  Irene Papen: basic look-and-feel
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: design.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: So how it's gonna look. And you have to think
  Christy Houpe: Uh
  Irene Papen: uh
  Christy Houpe: pretty
  Irene Papen: how we're
  Christy Houpe: accurate.
  Irene Papen: gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things. So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be
  Christy Houpe: Oh
  Irene Papen: able
  Christy Houpe: we
  Irene Papen: to put
  Christy Houpe: skip
  Irene Papen: a screen
  Christy Houpe: this I
  Irene Papen: in
  Christy Houpe: guess.
  Irene Papen: there,
  Christy Houpe: Sound
  Irene Papen: you have to
  Christy Houpe: button
  Irene Papen: correct.
  Christy Houpe: press.
  Christina Maceachern: Yep.
  Irene Papen: Uh
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: do you mind if I
  Valarie Heinbach: You
  Irene Papen: draw
  Valarie Heinbach: can also
  Irene Papen: in black
  Valarie Heinbach: include
  Irene Papen: then?
  Valarie Heinbach: it. It's
  Irene Papen: For
  Valarie Heinbach: not much
  Irene Papen: normal
  Valarie Heinbach: work.
  Irene Papen: sketches.
  Christy Houpe: Light only
  Christina Maceachern: Oh
  Christy Houpe: button
  Christina Maceachern: no it's it's
  Christy Houpe: user
  Christina Maceachern: okay.
  Christy Houpe: ca user interaction.
  Irene Papen: so we kind
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: of
  Valarie Heinbach: That's
  Irene Papen: want
  Valarie Heinbach: included.
  Irene Papen: the girlish
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: okay.
  Christy Houpe: So
  Irene Papen: figure.
  Christy Houpe: the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only
  Irene Papen: I'm
  Christy Houpe: lit
  Irene Papen: not so good
  Christy Houpe: during
  Irene Papen: at drawing.
  Christy Houpe: interaction. So
  Irene Papen: Excuse Christy Houpe?
  Christy Houpe: Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um, well that they are plastic, because then you can light up the light
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: on
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: when when they are usable.
  Irene Papen: No uh uh.
  Christy Houpe: Maybe you should draw it very large
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: like this.
  Christina Maceachern: but
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: this part isn't uh functioning
  Valarie Heinbach: Sensitive.
  Christy Houpe: Oh
  Christina Maceachern: properly.
  Christy Houpe: right.
  Irene Papen: How do we uh
  Christy Houpe: Erase?
  Irene Papen: uh or insert text?
  Valarie Heinbach: I dunno. Maybe just start typing.
  Christina Maceachern: It's a bit
  Irene Papen: Oh that's
  Christina Maceachern: uh
  Irene Papen: a
  Christina Maceachern: large.
  Irene Papen: bit big. Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: You also do the other sides. Not only on the front si uh the top
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: side
  Irene Papen: Ex
  Valarie Heinbach: but
  Irene Papen: exactly.
  Valarie Heinbach: also the the side view.
  Christina Maceachern: L
  Irene Papen: Uh
  Christina Maceachern: let's make first the the the all
  Valarie Heinbach: Uh.
  Christina Maceachern: the views. The the front view, side view and the back view.
  Irene Papen: Uh I thought for the side view, that
  Valarie Heinbach: Jesus.
  Irene Papen: the w
  Valarie Heinbach: What
  Irene Papen: the
  Valarie Heinbach: do
  Irene Papen: basic
  Valarie Heinbach: I write
  Irene Papen: section
  Valarie Heinbach: down?
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: would be rather
  Valarie Heinbach: Why can't
  Irene Papen: uh
  Valarie Heinbach: I work here? This
  Irene Papen: a bit
  Valarie Heinbach: is much
  Irene Papen: thicker than the middle,
  Christy Houpe: Much
  Irene Papen: where
  Valarie Heinbach: easier.
  Irene Papen: you're
  Christy Houpe: easier,
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: holding
  Christy Houpe: yeah.
  Irene Papen: it with your 'cause your
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: fingers have to fit underneath
  Christina Maceachern: The middle has
  Irene Papen: and
  Christina Maceachern: to be
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm.
  Christina Maceachern: very small
  Christy Houpe: I don't
  Christina Maceachern: so
  Christy Houpe: see
  Christina Maceachern: you
  Christy Houpe: a
  Christina Maceachern: can
  Christy Houpe: sign that the meeting
  Christina Maceachern: have
  Christy Houpe: is over
  Christina Maceachern: it in your
  Christy Houpe: yet
  Christina Maceachern: hand.
  Irene Papen: Exactly
  Christy Houpe: but
  Valarie Heinbach: No
  Irene Papen: but
  Valarie Heinbach: so
  Irene Papen: the
  Valarie Heinbach: I just
  Irene Papen: uh
  Valarie Heinbach: work here
  Irene Papen: but
  Valarie Heinbach: a
  Irene Papen: the
  Valarie Heinbach: few minutes.
  Irene Papen: upper
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: side has to be a bit more like that I think.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Irene Papen: Uh don't
  Christina Maceachern: the display,
  Irene Papen: you think?
  Christina Maceachern: we yeah we can
  Irene Papen: So
  Christina Maceachern: put
  Irene Papen: the
  Christina Maceachern: a
  Irene Papen: display
  Christina Maceachern: display.
  Irene Papen: we will put in here, the basic uh functions in here, where it's most reachable.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: The
  Christina Maceachern: The the
  Irene Papen: The th
  Christina Maceachern: arrow functions.
  Irene Papen: Exactly.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah. Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Oh. This is hard. What do don't have to draw it exactly do we?
  Christina Maceachern: No it's it's uh it's okay.
  Irene Papen: Wait. Let Christy Houpe try it one more time. Maybe I've uh it's easier if I draw it in once. Okay, of course it will become way more ugly.
  Christina Maceachern: You can make it m larger. Maybe it's easier to to draw uh
  Irene Papen: Yeah. This'll take forever. It's fun to work with this pen. Um so, larger.
  Christy Houpe: Oh.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: Wrong
  Christina Maceachern: that's
  Irene Papen: And
  Christy Houpe: one.
  Christina Maceachern: that's the basic idea. Yeah.
  Irene Papen: yeah. So side.
  Valarie Heinbach: Five minutes left before the meeting ends.
  Irene Papen: 'Kay. Um other views?
  Christy Houpe: Alright.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the
  Irene Papen: Uh
  Christina Maceachern: unit.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: That's the question.
  Christy Houpe: But we we
  Irene Papen: Let's fill i fill in the buttons later.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: So this is gonna be from the
  Christy Houpe: I is it if
  Irene Papen: uh from
  Christy Houpe: if this is from the side woah.
  Christina Maceachern: From
  Irene Papen: yeah
  Christina Maceachern: the
  Irene Papen: yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Steady.
  Irene Papen: Sorry.
  Christy Houpe: Because there the screen goes up like that right?
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: So then it's like this, or
  Irene Papen: Yeah?
  Christy Houpe: that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the it's better to have it somewhat like this. Or does it flip
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Irene Papen: The
  Christina Maceachern: I'm
  Irene Papen: the
  Christina Maceachern: I'm
  Irene Papen: idea
  Christy Houpe: all the way?
  Irene Papen: is that it has to flip up
  Christina Maceachern: May
  Irene Papen: to here.
  Christina Maceachern: maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble.
  Irene Papen: Okay.
  Christina Maceachern: Because it do doesn't have to flip then. Because
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: we have en enough
  Irene Papen: Yeah yeah
  Christina Maceachern: space
  Irene Papen: yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: for for making a an L_C_D. Because
  Christy Houpe: It's
  Christina Maceachern: here
  Christy Houpe: better to to
  Irene Papen: True.
  Christy Houpe: have this like this I guess, and then flip it like
  Christina Maceachern: But why
  Christy Houpe: this.
  Christina Maceachern: why do we need uh the flipping uh
  Irene Papen: you can adjust the angle to which it flips. So it can also from this angle, it can flip all the
  Christina Maceachern: Okay.
  Irene Papen: way up to there.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: You can flip it up to there if you
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: want.
  Christy Houpe: So w yeah. But we still keep the flipping mechanism.
  Irene Papen: Think
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: so.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah we keep the flip? Keep the
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Valarie Heinbach: flip
  Irene Papen: because
  Valarie Heinbach: live.
  Irene Papen: I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: I dunno.
  Christina Maceachern: Uh the the shape is okay but yeah? I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: I
  Christina Maceachern: Because
  Irene Papen: thought
  Christina Maceachern: we
  Irene Papen: it would be cool.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay yeah. It's it's for
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: for
  Christy Houpe: but
  Christina Maceachern: for
  Christy Houpe: maybe
  Christina Maceachern: more trendy uh
  Christy Houpe: Yeah but maybe we we should then
  Christina Maceachern: Because we have enough space. H here we got uh the basic functions,
  Christy Houpe: Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: the
  Christy Houpe: there the middle
  Christina Maceachern: the arrow uh yeah button.
  Christy Houpe: Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it?
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah and
  Christy Houpe: And then
  Christina Maceachern: then h we sh mm.
  Christy Houpe: like i oh th doh. Come on. So this is the shape. Oh. It hasn't
  Irene Papen: It doesn't aim so well.
  Christy Houpe: Okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah,
  Christy Houpe: on the other side,
  Christina Maceachern: then it's
  Christy Houpe: it doesn't fall on the screen. So there's a layer of rubber on
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: the side.
  Irene Papen: yeah yeah. Definitely.
  Christy Houpe: So no flipping but just
  Christina Maceachern: No flipping or
  Valarie Heinbach: No flipping?
  Christy Houpe: no.
  Christina Maceachern: you wanted the flipping so
  Irene Papen: Yeah I guess but uh I mean
  Christina Maceachern: But
  Irene Papen: most
  Christina Maceachern: if you
  Irene Papen: votes
  Christina Maceachern: if you
  Irene Papen: count right?
  Christina Maceachern: If you drop it it it just breaks. And it has to be very strong because of the. Yeah
  Christy Houpe: Throwing
  Valarie Heinbach: It's shaking.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: and the kinetics. Oh.
  Christina Maceachern: kind of
  Christy Houpe: We
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: better
  Irene Papen: true
  Christy Houpe: make
  Irene Papen: true.
  Christy Houpe: we better make it like this.
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christy Houpe: Eventually.
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah just
  Irene Papen: Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: And
  Irene Papen: if
  Valarie Heinbach: light
  Christina Maceachern: it's
  Irene Papen: you if
  Valarie Heinbach: on top.
  Irene Papen: you're going
  Christina Maceachern: also
  Irene Papen: for
  Christina Maceachern: for
  Irene Papen: the kinetics
  Christina Maceachern: the for
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: the children, it's yeah for people
  Valarie Heinbach: Safer.
  Christina Maceachern: not sixteen years.
  Valarie Heinbach: Mm.
  Christy Houpe: Uh
  Christina Maceachern: But
  Christy Houpe: they
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah
  Christina Maceachern: there
  Christy Houpe: are
  Christina Maceachern: are
  Christy Houpe: responsible
  Valarie Heinbach: okay
  Christina Maceachern: more
  Valarie Heinbach: that the
  Christy Houpe: enough
  Valarie Heinbach: target
  Christy Houpe: to have a mobile
  Valarie Heinbach: group.
  Christy Houpe: phone, so also to to
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah
  Christy Houpe: deal
  Christina Maceachern: okay.
  Christy Houpe: with their
  Christina Maceachern: That's true.
  Christy Houpe: uh remote uh control. Yes.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay. Yeah?
  Valarie Heinbach: Well.
  Irene Papen: Yeah. I'm just
  Valarie Heinbach: I just
  Irene Papen: thinking
  Valarie Heinbach: uh ended
  Irene Papen: totally
  Valarie Heinbach: the meeting.
  Irene Papen: different
  Valarie Heinbach: You
  Irene Papen: designs
  Valarie Heinbach: two go
  Irene Papen: also.
  Valarie Heinbach: design.
  Christina Maceachern: Okay
  Irene Papen: Remember
  Christina Maceachern: wi
  Irene Papen: that the weird pocketphone thingy
  Valarie Heinbach: Oh.
  Irene Papen: which
  Valarie Heinbach: By the way.
  Irene Papen: looked like
  Valarie Heinbach: Um
  Irene Papen: kind of a Gameboy.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Maybe we should try something like that.
  Valarie Heinbach: I
  Irene Papen: But yeah.
  Valarie Heinbach: uh thought up a name for our product.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah?
  Irene Papen: Oh
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: right.
  Valarie Heinbach: It's called uh the Real Remote.
  Christy Houpe: Ooh.
  Irene Papen: Alright.
  Valarie Heinbach: With a copyright sign after Real.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: The
  Christy Houpe: Alright.
  Christina Maceachern: Real Remote.
  Irene Papen: Yeah. I like it. Okay.
  Valarie Heinbach: So
  Christy Houpe: Good.
  Valarie Heinbach: maybe
  Irene Papen: This
  Valarie Heinbach: you
  Irene Papen: can
  Valarie Heinbach: can
  Irene Papen: go.
  Valarie Heinbach: include that somewhere.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. We should work in our own room right? Or
  Valarie Heinbach: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: Oh
  Christy Houpe: not?
  Irene Papen: yeah we have to f uh include that in our design
  Valarie Heinbach: I don't see
  Irene Papen: as
  Valarie Heinbach: any
  Irene Papen: well.
  Valarie Heinbach: power cables here so
  Irene Papen: Let's see.
  Christy Houpe: Yeah. Yes.
  Irene Papen: What the hell's that?
  Valarie Heinbach: 'Kay.
  Christy Houpe: See you two
  Christina Maceachern: I think
  Christy Houpe: in half
  Christina Maceachern: uh
  Christy Houpe: an hour
  Christina Maceachern: it's
  Christy Houpe: uh
  Christina Maceachern: the sensors. Okay.
  Irene Papen: Uh
  Valarie Heinbach: Good luck.
  Christina Maceachern: Yep. Okay that's the side. Ah it's it's okay. But do we want uh options on the on the side with the with the buttons?
  Irene Papen: Yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: Or just
  Irene Papen: I
  Christina Maceachern: leave
  Irene Papen: think
  Christina Maceachern: it?
  Irene Papen: we do.
  Christina Maceachern: Uh could make an uh a volume button uh scroll, volume button.
  Irene Papen: Yeah or j or also scrolling for the m
  Christina Maceachern: For
  Irene Papen: yeah.
  Christina Maceachern: menu.
  Irene Papen: Yeah?
  Christina Maceachern: Or
  Irene Papen: I dunno. We w kind of wanted to stick with the
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah. No,
  Irene Papen: Yeah I'm just
  Christina Maceachern: yeah.
  Irene Papen: thinking, if we i we wanna make something different right? So the with the scroll is is more futuristic than the standard arrow buttons.
  Christina Maceachern: Yeah.
  Irene Papen: I think.
  Christina Maceachern: Mm. Yeah you are going to design it so.
Updated Content: Christy Houpe talked about trendwatching and explained that the current trends are for fruit and vegetable themed products and products with a spongy texture. For users, the three most important aspects of a remote control are a fancy look and feel, technological innovation, and ease of use. Irene Papen talked about the options for energy source, case shape and material, and internal components. The group decided on using kinetic energy, and a double-curved rubber case. Christina Maceachern talked about speech recognition and what functions will be controlled through buttons or the lcd screen menu. Valarie Heinbach ran through the group's decisions so far and led a discussion of their remaining options, including the colour of the case and buttons, and whether the remote should flip open or not.