Extracted Content: Patricia Straub: 'S to do now is
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: to decide how to fulfil what your stuff is, so
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: in that sense
  Charity Kiser: Yeah,
  Patricia Straub: so
  Charity Kiser: sure.
  Patricia Straub: it does kind of
  Francisca Monro: Okay,
  Patricia Straub: make
  Charity Kiser: It
  Patricia Straub: sense,
  Francisca Monro: well
  Charity Kiser: kinda
  Patricia Straub: yeah.
  Charity Kiser: does make, doesn't it, because when we get into the end of meeting we're kind of talking about action and design as opposed
  Patricia Straub: Yep.
  Charity Kiser: to background.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: Everything I have is kinda background.
  Francisca Monro: Okay we to go?
  Patricia Straub: Yep.
  Francisca Monro: Well how um on the in this meeting then if we um I'll just just recap on the minutes from the last meeting. And we uh decided on
  Patricia Straub: Yep.
  Francisca Monro: decided on our our target group being fifteen to thirty five,
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Francisca Monro: and we decided that it was gonna be non-rechargeable battery-powered, that we're gonna group our audio-visual and other functions into into those categories, um. And I told you guys about the three requirements about ignoring, except the T_V_, and trying to incorporate the corporate colour slogan. Um so that was the last meeting. Is there
  Patricia Straub: Mm-hmm.
  Francisca Monro: anything have I forgotten anything?
  Patricia Straub: No.
  Charity Kiser: Uh
  Francisca Monro: Is that
  Charity Kiser: that
  Francisca Monro: everything?
  Charity Kiser: sounds.
  Francisca Monro: Okay. Um so if we have the three presentations, and then if you have anything to kind of that you know you're gonna want to discuss, maybe just make a note of it, and we'll have all the discussion at the end. That might
  Charity Kiser: Sure.
  Francisca Monro: be a better idea this time. And so
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: if we start off uh with Andrew and then Craig and then David, if that's
  Charity Kiser: Sure.
  Francisca Monro: alright. Um
  Patricia Straub: Yep.
  Francisca Monro: and then after that we'll have to make some decisions about stuff,
  Charity Kiser: Yeah,
  Francisca Monro: right.
  Charity Kiser: cool.
  Francisca Monro: So if
  Charity Kiser: Why don't
  Francisca Monro: you wanna
  Charity Kiser: I get that?
  Francisca Monro: take this.
  Charity Kiser: Hmm.
  Francisca Monro: Screwed in quite tightly. Uh what did uh how did we leave it with speech recognition now? We did we say we were gonna try maybe incorporate it but we hadn't made a definite
  Patricia Straub: Mm-hmm.
  Francisca Monro: decision on that? Right. Oh I should also point out that um the you know the kind of final objective of this meeting is to reach a decision on the concepts of the product.
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: So um that's kind of the end result hopefully.
  Charity Kiser: Okay. Um alright so c is it function F_ eight?
  Francisca Monro: Uh-huh. Hopefully
  Charity Kiser: Hmm.
  Francisca Monro: appear in a wee second.
  Charity Kiser: Come on. I think it's working.
  Francisca Monro: Up there we go.
  Charity Kiser: great let Charity Kiser just start this. Okay great. So um uh s move on. Uh-huh oh where'd it all go? It's not good.
  Francisca Monro: Oh no.
  Charity Kiser: Okay lemme just see where I can find it.
  Charity Kiser: This looks more like it. I think I just opened up the template. Sorry
  Francisca Monro: Oh
  Charity Kiser: about that.
  Francisca Monro: right.
  Charity Kiser: Okay alright so let's have a look here. Okay so
  Francisca Monro: Here
  Charity Kiser: this
  Francisca Monro: we go.
  Charity Kiser: was the method that um I've taken. Uh basically what I wanna do here, before we get into it uh too far, is I want to show you all the background information I have that I think we need to acknowledge if we want this to be successful.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: And uh and then sorta g go through some of the way that I've dealt with that information, and then sort of bring us all together into it to see sorta see how this fits in with the overall vision. Um so I've tried to take a whole lot of market research and summarise it for us, and then ide identify uh trends that are are sort of in sync and are important to our our uh p project plan that we have so far, and then uh initiate a kind of discussion on design options so that it sorta helps us to to narrow in on on aspects that will inform other uh other elements of the of the project. Does that make sense,
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: tha
  Patricia Straub: Yep.
  Charity Kiser: that sort of strategy? I thought that that will impact on the rest of what we do, so that's why I suggested
  Francisca Monro: Aye a
  Charity Kiser: we
  Francisca Monro: fair
  Charity Kiser: get
  Francisca Monro: point
  Charity Kiser: in this.
  Francisca Monro: definitely.
  Charity Kiser: Okay so out of um different uh figures and ratings ob uh of people in general, um consumers in general, the number one thing that was found was that uh the br t television remote control, a fancy look and feel, okay, and not, it specified, not a functional look or or feel,
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: uh b f f fancy. Um however, this is where we kinda have to be very, I think, creative about it. Number two was that it be innovative. Okay so that tells Charity Kiser that we have to find a way to be innovative without a adding just unnecessary um sort of functional bits to it. Uh and third priority uh for ease of use, so again that kind of gives us a general picture of how it has to be, um quite user friendly while still having technology. So it I'll just say right away as a bit of a foreshadowing into how we proceed with this in terms of m marketing, is that I think um what we should think about is how the um about how the innovation uh contributes to the look and feel, and not so much to the functionality of it. For example
  Francisca Monro: Aye right.
  Charity Kiser: like when you pick it up and push it like it all lights up or something, you know what I mean, like, or it's got something else to it
  Francisca Monro: Uh-huh.
  Charity Kiser: that just seems innovative because obviously the thing that the message here is ease of use. So how do you make innovation make something more more easy to use? Well that's I guess where we're gonna go with this.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: Okay then there's the other aspect of the back the the market um research I have here is on fashion style, okay, which as we've agreed is a priority. Uh top European fashion trend um that I read about says there's this emerging theme of fruit and vegetables, okay, especially in clothes and furniture. And when I first saw that I thought hmm, well do we want to actually try and think about this trend and how we add something to it, or we get right into it, or we completely steer away from it, do you know what I
  Francisca Monro: Okay
  Charity Kiser: mean?
  Francisca Monro: okay.
  Charity Kiser: So my my feeling is that we w do want to observe this trend, but we want to think also about the fact that it sort of has to fit in with something which is not specifically electronics. Um 'cause I think what we're in what we're in is partly sort of home decor, partly something like a computer, um so I think we might wanna be careful about how you know how quickly we create like a remote control in the shape of an apple or something, I think that would be pushing it. And then in terms of m material trends are for things to be soft and spongy and sort of, you might say ergonomic or or friendly to handle, which is which also in indicated that last year this was this was not the case. So um probably a lot of the competition on the market will be still in last year's mode, so if we try and really capitalise on that, I think that'll be in our favour. Um So these this is the summary of everything. market of who we're selling to. Uh innovative design technology's also a must in that it's seen it'd be seen to be uh cutting edge, uh but ease of use t has to be insured throughout. That was like the number three thing. And then at the end there are vibrant natural colours um that's the way I interpreted it anyway, softness in materials, shape, and function, and so I've written at written at the bottom to give us sort of a context of discussion, Mac iPods,
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: something which is, I'd have to say very high-tech, ten gigabytes, whatever, but when you hold it in your hand there's like no buttons. You know
  Francisca Monro: Mm
  Charity Kiser: what a Mac
  Francisca Monro: that's
  Charity Kiser: iPod
  Francisca Monro: true,
  Charity Kiser: is?
  Francisca Monro: yeah.
  Charity Kiser: I'm thinking however Mac iPod is sort of last year's because it's very hard and sort of glassy and glossy, so I'm thinking if we imagine that we're taking some of the features of a Mac iPod and we're then making it s more of like a more of like a comfortable type of or more of like a maybe more vibrant to friendly thing to have. Um and then so this is w with all that information what I'm what I'm suggesting in this slide here is that we we take these ideas, and as we get into more the more um techni like sort of production side of things, that we think about shape, materials, and themes or series that go throughout. Sort of like a I dunno like um we think of some kind of a thin theme that unifies it all, that we agree on, uh sorta like a marketing identity. Um Does that make sense? Yeah. So so like I threw out a few ideas there just to kinda get us thinking along those lines like lemon, lime, I dunno, green colours, pe whatever, it's just an idea, 'cause I'm thinking that some of these ideas will seem quite coherent if we use them in terms of their what people associate this them with in terms of texture, shape, colours, things like that.
  Francisca Monro: Mm 'kay. Great.
  Charity Kiser: Like um the ones the ones which I'm most fond of in terms of giving like a theme to it would be like um like lemon or something like that, you know something which is, like you see a lot in in other areas. Like I see lots of websites and things that seem to associate with like lemon and lime and
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: So anyway it's just just an idea.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: I'm thinking maybe we could incorporate some of these features into a fairly um into something which is which seems to have something to it which is almost gimmicky because like um like something to do with like lighting within it. Like you know just within
  Francisca Monro: Ah.
  Charity Kiser: the simple sense, when you pick up a phone and touch a button it uh lights up, q usually the buttons light up. How can we build on that? Maybe like it could light up in different colours or something or or people could buy the buy the control and then it comes with different like covers or something so.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: Anyway those are that's all I have, but
  Francisca Monro: That's
  Charity Kiser: uh
  Francisca Monro: great.
  Charity Kiser: hopefully we can we can revisit those ideas
  Francisca Monro: Uh-huh.
  Charity Kiser: when we get into
  Francisca Monro: Okay great. Um thank you for that. Uh
  Charity Kiser: Yep.
  Francisca Monro: Craig do you wanna uh plug yours in then?
  Kimberly Townsend: Is it working?
  Francisca Monro: Mm. Not quite.
  Charity Kiser: Did you press F_ eight?
  Patricia Straub: It's probably not sending. Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: Oh something coming
  Patricia Straub: Yep,
  Francisca Monro: now,
  Patricia Straub: there
  Francisca Monro: yeah.
  Patricia Straub: it is.
  Francisca Monro: There we go.
  Kimberly Townsend: And so think of this concept. Um to research it I've um had a look on the the homepage again. It's provided Charity Kiser with more examples of um previously existing c remote controls. Um there's a wee bit of discussion about the other existing ones there, um so I've taken the um suggestions from them and tried to incorporate them into this um So then this we're looking for um suggestions on size th um size of control and the buttons, um the shape of the control, whereabout the buttons should be located on the control.
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Kimberly Townsend: Um what I found from the research is that most the current controls are just basically big bricks with loads of buttons all over them. Um they're not very attractive to look at, and they're not very comfortable to hold, they're I just hold 'em like big bricks, and they're very easily lost. Um they tend to be very dark colours, so if there are shadowy places down the side of couches you can't really see them.
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Kimberly Townsend: Um the the controls themselves tend to use a very inconsistent colour scheme. Um for instance, the stand-by button isn't always red, uh it really should be. It's uh something the user then uh identify with. This is a red switch off, that's how it should be. Um I'm not sure if there's any other examples of that, but something to look out for. Um there's a problem that I've I've got couple of preferences for the the end control um I get 'em with the the red colour button for stand-by and s the other examples of that um The buttons should be large. They shouldn't be tiny little things like you get on some mobile phones. They should be easy to press, very comfortable. Um one of the examples given on the homepage was um there's an up and down volume button but both of them have a V_ on them,
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Kimberly Townsend: so the up volume button looks like it should be a down volume button, that's kinda confusing. Um should avoid s things like that. Um if the the corporate colour scheme allows it we should have a very bright colour so that it can be easily identified anywhere.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Kimberly Townsend: Um obviously trying trying to avoid being tacky there, but it could um tie-in very easily with your
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Kimberly Townsend: your lime
  Charity Kiser: Okay,
  Kimberly Townsend: and lemon idea.
  Charity Kiser: do we have a corporate colour scheme? I didn't
  Francisca Monro: I
  Charity Kiser: know.
  Francisca Monro: think it's yellow because like the website is yellow and
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: there's a band at the bottom is yellow, so
  Patricia Straub: And the Play-Doh
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: 's yellow.
  Francisca Monro: yellow, lemon,
  Kimberly Townsend: Fantastic.
  Francisca Monro: you know definitely food for thought there,
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: but keep going and we'll discuss it
  Kimberly Townsend: Um
  Francisca Monro: after.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Kimberly Townsend: any extra features we add beyond the basic ones should be m hidden, they shouldn't be on the um shouldn't be visible without something be opened or
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Kimberly Townsend: some sort of special extra effort. Um if we did decide to go for voice activation there sh should always be a button as alternative, possibly hidden in the the opened up section um making that something is wrong with it or with somebody's voice, maybe they got a cold or Um we should definitely avoid the big square block look. That's just wrong.
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Francisca Monro: Mm 'kay.
  Kimberly Townsend: And um we got an email uh from I think it's the the research department, and they've said th the voice control um can now talk back if you ask it a question.
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Kimberly Townsend: So it sh it could be good to have them um confirm any action you take
  Francisca Monro: Aye
  Kimberly Townsend: and
  Francisca Monro: that's a good idea,
  Kimberly Townsend: possibility.
  Francisca Monro: yeah.
  Kimberly Townsend: Right and these are problems I've had with it. Um I don't know where the slogan should go, or really what the slogan is. I think it's um, fashion into electronics.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Kimberly Townsend: And we don't know how flexible the colour scheme is. I mean you say you wanted the the corporate colours, but they don't say you know if we can use
  Charity Kiser: Mm.
  Kimberly Townsend: any other colours at all or
  Charity Kiser: Mm.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Kimberly Townsend: That's
  Patricia Straub: Cool.
  Kimberly Townsend: it.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: Great. Lots of good information there.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah that
  Patricia Straub: Mm-hmm.
  Francisca Monro: that was very good, and
  Patricia Straub: Mm
  Francisca Monro: uh
  Patricia Straub: 'kay
  Francisca Monro: now with
  Patricia Straub: um.
  Francisca Monro: David.
  Kimberly Townsend: I think I'm cool.
  Charity Kiser: It's a shame the cable wasn't just in the middle
  Francisca Monro: I know
  Charity Kiser: of the table,
  Francisca Monro: it'd be handy,
  Charity Kiser: huh?
  Francisca Monro: wouldn't it.
  Charity Kiser: Just um
  Patricia Straub: Oops.
  Francisca Monro: Do y do you wanna sit in the the line of sight of this
  Patricia Straub: Yeah
  Francisca Monro: um
  Patricia Straub: okay. Let Charity Kiser just get this
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: going first. Ah there it is.
  Charity Kiser: It takes a second, doesn't it?
  Patricia Straub: 'Kay, that should it. Okay um I guess the same thing again, I started with something very basic. So just so you guys have some idea of what's involved in my process,
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: um and then you can just work through it and we 'll either modify it or start from scratch um depending on what your needs are. Um the components are exactly the same.
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: Um I think, like what you guys said, um the most input that's needed is basically in the user interface. The rest of the components um they do have an impact in terms of cost and complexity. Um like you said time to market was a problem, um and how many components are physically in there in cost. And the power is basically a factor of that. Um and the lower components, the power, the logic, the transmitter, and the infrared, um they affect you in terms of the size of your device, um and that would have some inte impact on how y I think more how you hold rather than um the actual use using the the remote control because um like we've said we've defined, like we only want the basic things that to be visible, and the rest of them we try to hide.
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: So um you know it's just a matter of working out space. So I guess three things, um cost, um complexity, and the size. These are the three things that um will have an impact on you. So just go through it in the components. Um these are the options that are available to you, um I'm not very sure about the voice thing 'cause I got another email and it was in fact quite sketchy on what n the voice options are.
  Kimberly Townsend: Right.
  Patricia Straub: Um it said it could talk to you, but it never said anything about being able to listen. I it said something about a sensor but never clarified that.
  Charity Kiser: Mm.
  Francisca Monro: Hmm.
  Patricia Straub: So maybe if you well I could see the other email that they sent you, um 'cause they got back to Charity Kiser with like different requirements, or different offerings of what components availa Okay so
  Kimberly Townsend: Right.
  Patricia Straub: your basic components are buttons,
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Patricia Straub: okay and you have a wheel available, like a mouse scroll wheel,
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: okay there's an L_C_D_ display, um I think these are quite standard things.
  Charity Kiser: They're standard, aren't they?
  Patricia Straub: No um they're well in the sense that these are all the options available for you. I'll explain to you the complexity and the cost thing again a bit
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: later. Okay um then there's um how the case actually looks. It can actually be flat or it can be curved, um and then the different types of materials that you can use, um I don't think you can use them in a combination,
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: um but um I could check back for you, but I don't think you can actually use them in a combination.
  Francisca Monro: We you couldn't have like plastic and rubber?
  Patricia Straub: Um I think plastic and rubber would be fine, but plastic, rubber, and wood, I wasn't I'm not very sure about the titanium.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: They had some restrictions
  Charity Kiser: Hmm.
  Patricia Straub: on using the rubber and the titanium.
  Francisca Monro: Mm
  Patricia Straub: Um
  Francisca Monro: 'kay.
  Patricia Straub: the rubber was a restriction on the kind of power source you could use, but the titanium had a different kind of things on the shape of the
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: thing, so I think that there is some restriction on um I think you could probably group plastic and rubber together,
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: wood and titanium, but you know it might be easier from a cost perspective and a
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: complexity just to use one.
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: You know as opposed to two.
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: Um and the other components are logic chips, um again I'll I'll go back to the component chips. The com how complex or how easy the logic is, it depends on how many functions you have on the on the unit um and that impacts cost. Um
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: I don't think the logic chip has a issue about size 'cause they
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: should be about the same size. Power consumption should be about the same. Um
  Charity Kiser: Hmm.
  Patricia Straub: I think the main impact is complexity, um and the other thing is um the power options. Um the first one is a standard battery. Okay the second one I think is more of a gimmick then actually a useable thing, it's a wind-up
  Francisca Monro: I'll clear
  Patricia Straub: you know,
  Francisca Monro: one of these
  Patricia Straub: a
  Francisca Monro: things
  Patricia Straub: crank.
  Francisca Monro: for you. Just
  Charity Kiser: Hmm.
  Francisca Monro: by moving
  Patricia Straub: Yeah
  Francisca Monro: it yeah.
  Patricia Straub: but that that might be something I think that's more of a look and feel decision because I don't think you can have one power source if you're using the alternative power sources. I think whatever it is you still need a battery 'cause
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Patricia Straub: I don't think anybody wants to keep doing one thing.
  Charity Kiser: No.
  Patricia Straub: Okay the other ones
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: are a solar powered cell, which may not be a great idea in Europe or any country that has seasons 'cause half the year you'd be dead. a battery
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: and something else.
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: Um and the kinetic one I guess for Charity Kiser is the most interesting one because it's movement and people like to fiddle with their
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Patricia Straub: and it's a nice sales gimmick I think. From a marketing
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: gimmick it it's a technology thing, it's a shake it it doesn't work, shake it, knock it or something. You know
  Francisca Monro: W
  Charity Kiser: Hmm.
  Francisca Monro: yeah.
  Patricia Straub: you know you
  Francisca Monro: Uh
  Patricia Straub: have you had
  Francisca Monro: yeah
  Patricia Straub: those
  Francisca Monro: yeah,
  Patricia Straub: balls,
  Francisca Monro: I see.
  Patricia Straub: you know those
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: stress balls where you bounce the ball and it and it lights up and it goes, you know that might be a gimmick combined with rubber.
  Charity Kiser: Hmm.
  Patricia Straub: You know just to
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: if you get frustrated wi remote control you can throw it, kind of you know just uh
  Charity Kiser: Hmm.
  Francisca Monro: I know what you mean yeah.
  Patricia Straub: you know um so. Um okay my from my role, I don't think that personal preferences but role preferences, I think um something comfortable to hold,
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: um small and slim I guess that's more in the sense of small and slim in terms of comfortable not so small you can't, you know like a phone
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: or something, too small phone. Um and the other thing is from a production point of view um the less components we use and the simpler the components means you reduce your cost and you increase your profit.
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: Um and also the time to market and the complexity of developing
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm
  Patricia Straub: designing
  Charity Kiser: mm-hmm
  Patricia Straub: and debugging
  Charity Kiser: mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: it um so.
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: Um okay let Charity Kiser just go back and talk about some of the restrictions. Um The user interface restrictions basically means that if you use more complicated features, like the buttons are standard okay, the L_C_D_ panel and the scroll wheel you need more complicated logic.
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Patricia Straub: Um the case okay with a rubber case you can't have the solar panels. Okay with the titanium case, let Charity Kiser just check that um, titanium case can't be curved, it has to be square.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: Okay um there's no restriction on the plastic,
  Charity Kiser: It can't
  Patricia Straub: and
  Charity Kiser: be curved.
  Patricia Straub: it can't be curved
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: on the wood. So that's again, I don't think you can use them in a combination,
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: um especially the titanium I I suspect they're
  Francisca Monro: Right.
  Patricia Straub: very fixed to a particular need. So um mixing them may not be a good idea
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: um yep.
  Francisca Monro: Right
  Patricia Straub: That's
  Charity Kiser: Uh
  Patricia Straub: it.
  Charity Kiser: question
  Francisca Monro: can
  Charity Kiser: on
  Francisca Monro: I
  Charity Kiser: can I ask a question?
  Francisca Monro: Yeah well yeah it's just I'm quite keen to get the discussion going with the time we've left so
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: but yeah you c ask
  Charity Kiser: Can
  Francisca Monro: away.
  Charity Kiser: we uh power a light in this? Can we get a strong enough battery to power a light?
  Patricia Straub: Um I think we could because the L_C_D_ panel requires power, and the L_C_D_ is a form of a light
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: so that
  Charity Kiser: So maybe one of the things we can just try and include is a really good battery.
  Francisca Monro: Why what kind of light do you want are you thinking
  Charity Kiser: Well
  Francisca Monro: of?
  Charity Kiser: I mean I'm thinking it might be That for uh this to be a high-tech thing it's
  Francisca Monro: Uh-huh.
  Charity Kiser: gonna have to have something high-tech about it
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: and that's gonna take battery power, and to make that to make that a realistic goal I think one of the issues that will come up later is,
  Patricia Straub: Are
  Charity Kiser: can
  Patricia Straub: you
  Charity Kiser: the
  Patricia Straub: thinking
  Charity Kiser: battery power
  Patricia Straub: are you
  Charity Kiser: it?
  Patricia Straub: thinking of of a light in the sense of um a light light, or a light in the sense of
  Charity Kiser: Illuminate
  Patricia Straub: it glows
  Charity Kiser: the buttons.
  Patricia Straub: kind of
  Charity Kiser: Yeah
  Patricia Straub: you
  Charity Kiser: it
  Patricia Straub: know
  Charity Kiser: glows.
  Patricia Straub: Frankenstein, it's alive.
  Charity Kiser: Well m I'm thinking along the lines of you're you're in the dark watching a D_V_D_
  Patricia Straub: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: and you um you find the thing in the dark and you go like this, and that's what everybody does. Oh where's the volume button in the dark,
  Francisca Monro: Yeah yeah yeah.
  Patricia Straub: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: and uh y you just touch it, or you just pick it up, and it lights up or something.
  Francisca Monro: Like a phone
  Patricia Straub: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: Like
  Francisca Monro: yeah,
  Charity Kiser: a phone,
  Francisca Monro: like
  Charity Kiser: yeah
  Francisca Monro: the backlight
  Charity Kiser: yeah.
  Francisca Monro: in a phone. Okay cool.
  Charity Kiser: Whereas with phones, people charge them once a week.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: We're gonna need to put in a really good battery so people don't have to charge their r remote control every few days.
  Patricia Straub: Um that's why I think the option of the the kinetic thing which basically means as long as you shake it like a watch, like an automatic
  Charity Kiser: But are people gonna
  Patricia Straub: watch
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Charity Kiser: wanna shake their movie controller?
  Patricia Straub: um it's probably sensitive enough when you fiddle it.
  Charity Kiser: Right.
  Patricia Straub: So
  Charity Kiser: Sure.
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Patricia Straub: you could trigger that to a light, like I said the bouncing ball thing, or you
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: could trigger that to use that to power
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: the light as opposed to
  Charity Kiser: Right.
  Patricia Straub: so when they pick it up, right, and then
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: that that sorta triggers
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: the
  Francisca Monro: Right
  Patricia Straub: glowingness.
  Francisca Monro: okay
  Charity Kiser: Okay,
  Francisca Monro: um
  Charity Kiser: great.
  Francisca Monro: well let's just go right back to the marketing ideas for a start, and just giving an Patricia Straub idea on the time, we've got about fifteen minutes to play with at most.
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: So um yeah so just t to bear in mind that the ultimate goal of this meeting is to reach an decision on the the the concepts of the product. So
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: back to your idea about um incorporating the idea of like fruit and veg, and
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: the corporate colour, and things like that.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: Um I mean what does everybody think about Does anybody have any ideas of about how we can fit all that in together? I mean that's kind of the user interface type of thing, what are your thoughts on that?
  Kimberly Townsend: Um I think we could go for like um maybe not a p a fruit shape but a very sort of curvy type shape. Um you could have the same sort of texture and colour as a fruit.
  Francisca Monro: So maybe do y are we thinking something that like s could sit in your hand comfortably, or do you th you'd hold onto comfortably or
  Kimberly Townsend: Um probably something that s sits in your hand comfortably, sort of
  Francisca Monro: So
  Kimberly Townsend: feels
  Francisca Monro: something
  Kimberly Townsend: right in
  Francisca Monro: quite
  Kimberly Townsend: your hand.
  Francisca Monro: curvy? Okay um right okay. Colour-wise I mean you made a re uh was it you or uh I can't remember who made the point about how if you've a nice bright colour you'll not lose it, was that Whose
  Patricia Straub: I think
  Charity Kiser: What's
  Patricia Straub: he
  Charity Kiser: that?
  Patricia Straub: made that.
  Francisca Monro: about how if you have a bright colour you'll not lose it so much.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: Um and when the corporate colour is yellow, I mean maybe we could think about about the colour of the whole product being
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: yellow I don't know. Um And then obviously the uh the materials when it
  Charity Kiser: Well
  Francisca Monro: That's all.
  Charity Kiser: I mean I'm thinking that what we need to do is have something that kind of unifies a lot of the different concepts, and
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: if we think that what we are w our number one marketing motive is um the look and feel.
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: So for the look and feel to seem coherent and not just sorta bits and bits and pieces of of concept and technology or or whatever or fashion, then we should have it kind of come back to one thing that we kind of all sorta can visualize. Um maybe what we could do is t th think about a concept which touches b back to the on the um the colour, you said
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: company colour yellow. I mean if we think of something, like I was saying also lime
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: and lemon you know, what can we come up with something where we we try and associate it with with like the series. We just come up with something like that we kind of use it as a theme to inspire the
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: shapes and things.
  Francisca Monro: Right.
  Patricia Straub: Is there a particular shape that you're interested in? Like does marketing have any research on does it need to be long? Does it need with
  Francisca Monro: Oh
  Patricia Straub: a square
  Francisca Monro: you know like
  Patricia Straub: thing
  Francisca Monro: in circular
  Patricia Straub: wha
  Francisca Monro: in shape or
  Patricia Straub: Yeah 'cause that will n help narrow down the choice of
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: Choice of material
  Patricia Straub: Like fruit.
  Francisca Monro: yeah. 'Cause
  Patricia Straub: I'm
  Kimberly Townsend: See
  Patricia Straub: thinking
  Francisca Monro: I I
  Kimberly Townsend: I'm
  Patricia Straub: fruits
  Francisca Monro: I
  Patricia Straub: in
  Francisca Monro: was
  Patricia Straub: my head,
  Francisca Monro: kinda
  Patricia Straub: but that's
  Francisca Monro: thinking
  Patricia Straub: tacky.
  Francisca Monro: about as well you know how you get these shock resistant mobile phones, and they're plastic but then also have like rubber on the outside, and it kinda feels it feels kind of warmer to the touch. It feels
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: a bit more comfortable, and maybe we could incorporate plastic and rubber into it. And then then we could have curved shapes, 'cause wood or titanium, yeah, it's gonna have to be boxy and rectangular and I think we might be moving away from that you know so um Well I'm do we really want it in like the shape of a lemon or
  Charity Kiser: No no no
  Francisca Monro: no I don't think we do either.
  Charity Kiser: not at all. It's more more just that we we think about like what it is we're trying to achieve, so and then we have one one sorta theme that we stick with. Do you
  Francisca Monro: Okay
  Charity Kiser: know what I mean?
  Francisca Monro: right well um so thoughts about the actual shape of the thing.
  Kimberly Townsend: I'd quite like a sort of uh snowman type shape.
  Francisca Monro: A snowman shape?
  Kimberly Townsend: Um so a p sort of larger bit sits in your hand,
  Francisca Monro: Uh-huh.
  Kimberly Townsend: and then you got maybe another bubble at the top for just any other function you need.
  Francisca Monro: That's quite
  Charity Kiser: Right,
  Francisca Monro: a distinctive shape, that
  Charity Kiser: sure.
  Francisca Monro: would be good wouldn't it.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah so yeah should we go with that?
  Charity Kiser: Um can we yeah like to and wha like do you have a
  Francisca Monro: Do you wanna draw
  Charity Kiser: Can you
  Francisca Monro: it on
  Charity Kiser: like
  Francisca Monro: the board?
  Charity Kiser: yeah just t we can visualize it.
  Kimberly Townsend: Um something like that um you got two groups there um maybe it could fold up and you get a third group inside
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: Ooh
  Kimberly Townsend: or
  Francisca Monro: that'd be good.
  Kimberly Townsend: uh you have volume controls about there.
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: Yep.
  Francisca Monro: So call it the snowman-shape trademark. Yeah that's cool. Um and I mean colour-wise what does everybody think? I think it is quite important to get yellow in there somewhere. I mean do you want the whole thing yellow, maybe like yellow and white do you want
  Charity Kiser: Mm.
  Francisca Monro: something
  Kimberly Townsend: So I reckon it'd look quite nice if we just had um this here, had a sorta background yellow,
  Francisca Monro: Uh-huh.
  Kimberly Townsend: and then have sort of a nice bold colour for the buttons.
  Francisca Monro: Okay cool. Um and also I mean how are we going to incorporate the slogan in? The fact that it talks to you, I mean it might be quite cool if when you first start using it it says, what is it, putting fashion into electronics or something, I dunno. Or when you like or if you turn it off or something if
  Kimberly Townsend: I think
  Francisca Monro: it
  Kimberly Townsend: that
  Francisca Monro: can
  Kimberly Townsend: might
  Francisca Monro: speak
  Kimberly Townsend: scare Charity Kiser.
  Francisca Monro: if it could actually say the slogan it might be a bit more powerful than just having it written on it somewhere. I d I d any thoughts on that at all?
  Kimberly Townsend: I think that'd probably scare Charity Kiser. You turn it on your control possessed s.
  Francisca Monro: I know. Um unless an a I mean if you also would that work if we wanted to incorporate um an L_C_D_ display, where would we put that? Would we put that on the inside or
  Kimberly Townsend: Um
  Patricia Straub: Do we need an L_C_D_ display? What what's the functionality
  Francisca Monro: It's
  Patricia Straub: of
  Francisca Monro: bound
  Patricia Straub: that?
  Francisca Monro: to increase the cost of it a lot, I
  Patricia Straub: Yeah but the
  Francisca Monro: would've
  Patricia Straub: question
  Francisca Monro: thought.
  Patricia Straub: is what
  Charity Kiser: What would
  Patricia Straub: are
  Charity Kiser: it
  Patricia Straub: we
  Charity Kiser: achieve?
  Patricia Straub: using it what would we what would we achieve from it? Putting
  Charity Kiser: Well
  Patricia Straub: in lights is cheap but putting in an L_C_D_ panel
  Charity Kiser: L_C_
  Patricia Straub: just
  Charity Kiser: well
  Patricia Straub: to make it glow is
  Charity Kiser: I'd
  Patricia Straub: a bit
  Charity Kiser: when
  Patricia Straub: of
  Charity Kiser: you used
  Patricia Straub: a
  Charity Kiser: to mention the L_C_D_ I'd think I wonder what that would be about. And the th the thing I could see it helping with would be if it was somehow connected with um listings. So as
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: you scroll through, 'cause we said we might have a jog dial, so
  Patricia Straub: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: as you scroll through your stations you can y it actually tells you what it is.
  Patricia Straub: I think that will be a problem because we don't have an input device to get the listings into
  Charity Kiser: Right,
  Patricia Straub: it,
  Charity Kiser: okay.
  Patricia Straub: so
  Francisca Monro: Mm
  Patricia Straub: um
  Francisca Monro: oh
  Patricia Straub: it's
  Francisca Monro: yeah
  Patricia Straub: a bit
  Francisca Monro: that's
  Patricia Straub: nuts
  Francisca Monro: true.
  Patricia Straub: to get the
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: Monday Tuesday
  Francisca Monro: So
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: Wednesday
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Francisca Monro: so
  Patricia Straub: you
  Francisca Monro: no
  Patricia Straub: know.
  Francisca Monro: need for an L_C_D_ display?
  Patricia Straub: Um I I'm not saying there's no need for an L_C_D_ display, but um
  Francisca Monro: I think that would
  Patricia Straub: it's
  Francisca Monro: make it very
  Patricia Straub: what's
  Francisca Monro: complex.
  Patricia Straub: what what would it tell the user, 'cause the L_C_D_ tends to be an output as
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: uh as opposed to an input so
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: um does the remote control need to talk back to the
  Charity Kiser: Mm
  Patricia Straub: user?
  Charity Kiser: not real
  Patricia Straub: We have the option of the speaker as well the sa the same thing goes for the speaker, is there a need for the remote control to
  Francisca Monro: I
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Francisca Monro: don't know if there is
  Patricia Straub: to
  Francisca Monro: really,
  Patricia Straub: talk back?
  Kimberly Townsend: Nah.
  Francisca Monro: no um
  Patricia Straub: Um
  Francisca Monro: I would say no need for a talk-back. Uh does anybody disagree with that?
  Charity Kiser: No.
  Patricia Straub: You could
  Francisca Monro: No?
  Patricia Straub: put a game on it.
  Francisca Monro: Easy.
  Patricia Straub: When the T_V_ dies you can play with the remote control.
  Charity Kiser: Mm
  Francisca Monro: Okay
  Charity Kiser: mm.
  Francisca Monro: um right so you're gonna have the three different sets of of functionalities, um I mean do you wanna group them into s head of the snowman, body of the snowman, inside of the snowman, is that what you're thinking?
  Kimberly Townsend: Um well I think the advanced ones the the ones you don't usually use could be hid inside.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Kimberly Townsend: B um I think the we had were fairly basic ones, they'd have to go on the the front somewhere.
  Francisca Monro: Okay right um what else do you need to talk about?
  Charity Kiser: Well i
  Patricia Straub: Where
  Charity Kiser: I was
  Patricia Straub: would
  Charity Kiser: just
  Patricia Straub: you physically position the buttons? Um I think that that has some impact on
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: on on many things.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Kimberly Townsend: Um
  Patricia Straub: Um maybe you wanna draw onto the
  Francisca Monro: So I'm just gonna um pop this in here 'cause I have a slide about decision making
  Patricia Straub: Yep.
  Francisca Monro: which I'd forgotten about.
  Francisca Monro: Oh sh God we've got five minutes um okay uh back we go. Um energy what do you think that's suggesting we're how we're powering the thing? I really like the idea of this kinetic thing where you'd have the back-up of the battery,
  Charity Kiser: Yeah,
  Francisca Monro: but have
  Charity Kiser: sure.
  Francisca Monro: have kinetic power,
  Charity Kiser: Um
  Francisca Monro: I mean what does
  Charity Kiser: I've
  Francisca Monro: anybody
  Charity Kiser: had
  Francisca Monro: think
  Charity Kiser: kinetic
  Francisca Monro: about that?
  Charity Kiser: things before, and the the the one issue we need to keep in mind with them is that you're committing the user to moving it, and
  Patricia Straub: No, like I said we
  Charity Kiser: watches
  Patricia Straub: have a h
  Charity Kiser: yeah
  Patricia Straub: hybrid kind of thing,
  Charity Kiser: Sure,
  Patricia Straub: so it's not gonna
  Charity Kiser: okay,
  Patricia Straub: charge the battery,
  Charity Kiser: right, okay.
  Patricia Straub: it's just
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: Support for it. I mean
  Patricia Straub: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: just it's just worth pointing out because like I've I've known I've known people to have kinetic watches that they wear all the time,
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: and it's just like magic because it's always powered and there's no battery. I've also known people to have things like like a jewellery watch they wear from time to time, and they eventually just say it's just too much of a nuisance because
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: I don't wear
  Patricia Straub: Yep.
  Charity Kiser: it all the time. Like remote control is similar, you're away on vacation, I dunno whatever, you something,
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: and it just starts to get worn down. So
  Francisca Monro: Well
  Charity Kiser: we should
  Francisca Monro: I suppose that if
  Charity Kiser: think
  Francisca Monro: you're
  Charity Kiser: about
  Francisca Monro: if you're away and you're not using it, then you're not using any power either. So you'd have the battery as the kind of to keep it ticking over
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: idea I'm really sorry we're gonna have to wrap up quite quickly, we don't have as much time as I thought.
  Charity Kiser: Yep.
  Francisca Monro: Um so I think that's what energy is referring to here. Chip on print, is that that's an industrial design thing, is it David?
  Patricia Straub: Yes yes.
  Francisca Monro: Okay um as for the case, kind of discussed that
  Charity Kiser: And this size here, I'd suggest this be small,
  Francisca Monro: Yeah I
  Charity Kiser: like
  Francisca Monro: know we're gonna
  Charity Kiser: quite
  Francisca Monro: have like
  Charity Kiser: small.
  Francisca Monro: rubber buttons that feel kind of
  Kimberly Townsend: Yeah
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Kimberly Townsend: I think so yeah.
  Charity Kiser: Um just a a lot of the um I mean one of the things running through my mind right now, I realise we're being efficient to wrap up the meeting
  Francisca Monro: Mm-hmm.
  Charity Kiser: and have lots of decisions made, um but we are leaning quite a bit to the side of being low-tech, rubber buttons plastic frame, it's almost like we're reproducing the same old remote control
  Francisca Monro: Mm 'kay.
  Charity Kiser: that's out there. Should we think about how we are actually getting this high-tech user friendly uh um theme like what is it that we're u we're using to to achieve those goals? Like
  Francisca Monro: Could have things like backlighting the buttons and
  Charity Kiser: Okay
  Francisca Monro: stuff like
  Charity Kiser: so
  Francisca Monro: that.
  Charity Kiser: so backlighting,
  Patricia Straub: Or even
  Charity Kiser: that
  Patricia Straub: a
  Charity Kiser: would
  Patricia Straub: clear
  Charity Kiser: be good.
  Patricia Straub: case. Um
  Charity Kiser: Yeah clear, that'd be
  Patricia Straub: you
  Francisca Monro: Aye
  Patricia Straub: know a
  Francisca Monro: that
  Patricia Straub: a
  Francisca Monro: would be
  Patricia Straub: glowing
  Francisca Monro: a
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: good idea.
  Patricia Straub: a a glowing yellow type case where the yellow is showable, but in the dark it sort of, it's alive.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah sure.
  Patricia Straub: Um in
  Francisca Monro: S
  Patricia Straub: in a
  Francisca Monro: so
  Patricia Straub: slight
  Francisca Monro: like
  Patricia Straub: subtle
  Charity Kiser: Yeah that'd
  Patricia Straub: way.
  Charity Kiser: be really
  Francisca Monro: cur
  Charity Kiser: good.
  Francisca Monro: slightly transparent
  Patricia Straub: Yeah
  Francisca Monro: case, so
  Patricia Straub: yeah.
  Francisca Monro: it's yellow,
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: like tinted yellow, but
  Patricia Straub: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: you can maybe see through it. Is that what
  Patricia Straub: Or
  Francisca Monro: you mean?
  Patricia Straub: or there might be a light running through it like a mouse.
  Charity Kiser: Sure.
  Patricia Straub: You know you have cordless mice and they don't eat that much power
  Charity Kiser: Yeah,
  Patricia Straub: right. So the power the
  Charity Kiser: yeah.
  Patricia Straub: battery in that sense, maybe
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: you have one or two stratig strategically placed lights
  Charity Kiser: Sure.
  Patricia Straub: that sort of
  Charity Kiser: Yeah they they emanate a light through it.
  Patricia Straub: Yeah
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: but because the case is transparent
  Francisca Monro: Lights.
  Patricia Straub: so it
  Charity Kiser: 'Kay.
  Patricia Straub: gives it a little bit of a glow,
  Charity Kiser: Yeah, mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: doesn't
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: make it freaky.
  Charity Kiser: Um and then the other thing that we we're s we've committed ourselves to achieving is simplicity, and so I'm thinking maybe should we try and think about having something like um some kind of an innovative concept about how the um the volume and the channels are controlled, 'cause that's the main thing people will f wanna
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Charity Kiser: do. Could we use like a jog dial, like a nice just sort of round, somewhere on it where you just
  Patricia Straub: The question
  Charity Kiser: roll
  Patricia Straub: is
  Charity Kiser: it?
  Patricia Straub: when you're rolling
  Charity Kiser: Or
  Patricia Straub: it, how do you wanna roll it? Do you want 'em to roll it like that? Do you want 'em to roll it like that? 'Cause in a mouse your hand's in a position
  Kimberly Townsend: Mm.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: to roll it, whereas the other thing about having it jog dial this way, it tends to get moved accidentally.
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah
  Charity Kiser: Well
  Francisca Monro: if
  Charity Kiser: why
  Francisca Monro: you
  Charity Kiser: don't we
  Francisca Monro: are
  Charity Kiser: do
  Francisca Monro: holding
  Charity Kiser: it like
  Francisca Monro: it
  Charity Kiser: a
  Francisca Monro: in your
  Charity Kiser: mouse
  Francisca Monro: hand
  Charity Kiser: then?
  Francisca Monro: you could you could do that, couldn't you? If you're holding it in your hand
  Patricia Straub: That's
  Francisca Monro: you could
  Patricia Straub: a very unnatural motion
  Francisca Monro: Do you think?
  Patricia Straub: to yeah.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: Can you imagine you have to scroll a lot. Um it might work for volume,
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: and maybe some of the brightness controls and stuff like that,
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Patricia Straub: but not for channels right. If you have a Telewest box you've got like, you
  Charity Kiser: Mm-hmm.
  Patricia Straub: don't have to buy all the channels, you've about fifty channels, can you imagine
  Francisca Monro: Yeah
  Patricia Straub: trying
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: to.
  Francisca Monro: okay okay
  Charity Kiser: Yeah,
  Patricia Straub: Um
  Charity Kiser: sure.
  Francisca Monro: um
  Patricia Straub: and I don't think having that you know too quick too
  Charity Kiser: Mm.
  Patricia Straub: slow kin
  Kimberly Townsend: Well,
  Patricia Straub: it's confusing
  Kimberly Townsend: but
  Patricia Straub: to the
  Kimberly Townsend: then
  Patricia Straub: I dunno.
  Kimberly Townsend: for um for skipping a large amount of channels you do have to uh to skip the channel button, the
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: But
  Kimberly Townsend: number
  Patricia Straub: users
  Kimberly Townsend: part.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: tend to tend to want to use that and once they lose out on the user experience they're like
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Kimberly Townsend: Uh but
  Patricia Straub: Because that's becomes the most accessible
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: thing
  Charity Kiser: But that's
  Patricia Straub: in front
  Charity Kiser: not a bad
  Patricia Straub: of
  Charity Kiser: thing is it?
  Francisca Monro: Just
  Charity Kiser: Because when you think about it, the alternative is to go push
  Kimberly Townsend: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: the button.
  Patricia Straub: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: Jog dials are much easier than that.
  Francisca Monro: Okay
  Charity Kiser: You
  Francisca Monro: um
  Charity Kiser: just roll.
  Francisca Monro: right well wouldn't it we do need to make a decision on whether we want to incorporate a jog dial in nice and quickly. Um I'm all for them actually, I think they're quite you
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: know th very quick to m to use.
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: So does anybody oppose the idea of of incorporating one into the design at all? No. And the other thing was um can we think of any way of getting the slogan into this thing?
  Charity Kiser: Yeah like I mean if we if if we keep coming back to this board here,
  Francisca Monro: Uh-huh.
  Charity Kiser: I wouldn't be surprised if we could take this idea, imagine that, I dunno, that it's within the shape of the hand, it's quite small
  Francisca Monro: Uh-huh ooh okay,
  Charity Kiser: I dunno.
  Francisca Monro: we really gotta wrap up so
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: yeah.
  Charity Kiser: It's small, and that we've got like the the l slogan somewhere like on the casing
  Francisca Monro: Okay
  Charity Kiser: at the side,
  Francisca Monro: well if we can do
  Charity Kiser: and that
  Francisca Monro: that, great.
  Charity Kiser: yeah
  Francisca Monro: Yeah okay.
  Charity Kiser: well I mean isn't that what we just h said said we s just have to decide now?
  Francisca Monro: Yeah let's let's try and get the slogan on there
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: um, and
  Charity Kiser: And then
  Patricia Straub: So
  Charity Kiser: like
  Patricia Straub: you
  Charity Kiser: a
  Patricia Straub: wanna
  Charity Kiser: jo
  Patricia Straub: expand the shape of the
  Charity Kiser: And then like a jog dial somewhere that fits in with the shape of it like I dunno like here, in with
  Patricia Straub: That
  Charity Kiser: the
  Patricia Straub: that might have one problem in terms of um
  Charity Kiser: It would get bumped, it's doesn't
  Patricia Straub: in terms
  Charity Kiser: really fit
  Patricia Straub: of
  Charity Kiser: with your
  Patricia Straub: whether
  Charity Kiser: hand.
  Patricia Straub: you're left handed or you're right handed
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: you
  Francisca Monro: Mm.
  Patricia Straub: might be locking yourself in.
  Charity Kiser: Or maybe
  Kimberly Townsend: Mm.
  Charity Kiser: just fit
  Patricia Straub: Could
  Charity Kiser: it
  Patricia Straub: I just
  Charity Kiser: in like down the middle
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: here.
  Patricia Straub: could I just jump in and suggest something
  Francisca Monro: Right
  Charity Kiser: A
  Patricia Straub: quickly?
  Francisca Monro: I'm
  Charity Kiser: jog
  Francisca Monro: gonna have
  Charity Kiser: di
  Francisca Monro: to I'm really gonna have to hurry you on here 'cause we're we're
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: actually over time.
  Charity Kiser: It's kind
  Francisca Monro: Um
  Charity Kiser: of
  Francisca Monro: is there anything
  Charity Kiser: yeah
  Francisca Monro: anybody's unsure about? Just for in closing just the next meeting's gonna be in thirty minutes, and so you can see in the screen here what each of you are gonna hopefully be doing,
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Francisca Monro: uh I know that the designers are gonna be working with Play-doh on that. So um that'll
  Charity Kiser: Huh.
  Francisca Monro: be that'll be good. Um and I'll get the the minutes up as soon as possible. Anything at all you think we haven't discussed that we need to? Is everybody
  Charity Kiser: Um
  Francisca Monro: kind of happy about
  Patricia Straub: Um
  Francisca Monro: what they're gonna be doing?
  Patricia Straub: I think one thing would be the jog dial 'cause that's gonna have quite a big impact on
  Charity Kiser: Yeah I think
  Patricia Straub: the thing
  Charity Kiser: the jog
  Patricia Straub: um
  Charity Kiser: dial, you know it just after you drew that, what if it was flat and you just
  Patricia Straub: Yeah
  Charity Kiser: spun
  Patricia Straub: that's what
  Charity Kiser: it,
  Patricia Straub: I was thinking
  Charity Kiser: that'd be great.
  Patricia Straub: the a slide, because
  Charity Kiser: Yeah.
  Patricia Straub: then you you don't have to put the hand.
  Charity Kiser: Yep.
  Patricia Straub: I think incorporating a logo is quite straight forward. There's
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: lots of space for it um
  Francisca Monro: That's kind of a design thing that you guys can
  Patricia Straub: Yeah
  Francisca Monro: can discuss,
  Patricia Straub: but it's
  Francisca Monro: yeah.
  Charity Kiser: Sure,
  Patricia Straub: also a a marketing
  Charity Kiser: yeah,
  Patricia Straub: and a function
  Charity Kiser: yeah
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: and materials we sorta said we'd do plastic and rubber, didn't
  Patricia Straub: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: we,
  Francisca Monro: Yeah.
  Charity Kiser: and I think maybe we should try and stay away from just the big protruding rubber buttons, 'cause that'd just be so standard.
  Francisca Monro: To make something flush with the case?
  Charity Kiser: Something a bit more flush, yeah,
  Francisca Monro: Okay right.
  Charity Kiser: or maybe have rubber incorporated into the case as well, so
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Charity Kiser: that it has and also t plastic
  Francisca Monro: Sp kinda
  Charity Kiser: I've
  Francisca Monro: grippy?
  Charity Kiser: seen can get really textured, so you can get plastics that actually feel soft in your hand.
  Patricia Straub: Feel like fruit.
  Francisca Monro: Okay.
  Patricia Straub: Fruits kids.
  Charity Kiser: They feel kind of like um, you get pens
  Patricia Straub: No like
  Charity Kiser: now and then that you'd think that
  Patricia Straub: Yeah
  Charity Kiser: they were
  Patricia Straub: yeah.
  Charity Kiser: rubber but they're not, they're actually just plastic that's textured, kind
  Patricia Straub: Yeah
  Charity Kiser: of a
  Patricia Straub: yeah
  Charity Kiser: little
  Patricia Straub: kinda
  Charity Kiser: bit
  Francisca Monro: Okay
  Charity Kiser: like
  Patricia Straub: like that yeah.
  Francisca Monro: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to call this to a close 'cause we're way over time. So um that's really good, like we've s had much to talk about that um pretty much run
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: out of time to do so. So off
  Charity Kiser: Okay.
  Francisca Monro: you go and design stuff wooh.
  Patricia Straub: Play-doh time.
  Francisca Monro: Yeah quite jealous actually.
  Patricia Straub: You got to choose first. No, we're kidding. Okay, can I just swipe your power cable, I don't think it matters. Okay lemme okay, I'm gonna pull everybody out first and then put in whoever needs to be left. It's you.
  Patricia Straub: Argh. This is a real hassle and a oops. I'm gonna take the microphones, 'cause it's too lazy t take them off again. Cool.
Updated Content: Francisca Monro recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Charity Kiser discussed his findings from trend watching reports, stressing the need for a product that has a fancy look and feel, is technologically innovative, is easy to use, and incorporates some aspect of fruit and vegetables in its design. The interface specialist presented research on the appearance of current remotes, concluding that current remotes are generally unappealing in terms of look and usability. The interface specialist presented ideas on how to remedy the unappealing aspects of current remotes in the team's design and also how to incorporate the corporate color scheme into the design. Patricia Straub presented options for materials, components, and batteries and discussed the restrictions involved in using certain materials. The team then discussed options for the shape and color scheme of the remote, as well as what components, batteries, and materials to use.