Extracted Content: Brandy Christiansen: That should hopefully do the trick, um.
  Brandy Christiansen: 'Kay. Sorry about the small delay. Falling a little bit behind schedule. And that's uh fifteen twenty five. Okay. So just to try and roughly go over what we agreed in the last one, um we're gonna go for something uh uh how was it? Uh The new black, I believe. Um something that looks good 'cause that seems to be in preference to actual functionality in the end, though we should never avoid functionality, of course. Uh of our components are gonna be standard, off the shelf, but it seemed like we were gonna require at least an advanced chip and we were still very much for the idea of using an L_C_D_ display. Um other things were we were hoping to use rubber, most likely gonna be double curved, etcetera. Okay. So um due to your hard work, we might as well let the uh two designers go first, and uh show us the prototype.
  Isabel Lebo: Okay, it's a
  Brandy Christiansen: Quite how the best way to do this is, I'm not sure,
  Isabel Lebo: I
  Brandy Christiansen: but
  Isabel Lebo: think if we step up and uh outline our ideas. Okay. Now do uh doing the prototype gave us a bit more insight into the ergonomics of the design. Um for one thing, it turned out that the only point at which it needs to be articulated for handedness is um is h i is down here for the uh L_E_D_. As it turned out, the whole thing transfers from the right to left hand fairly well the point of view operating the function buttons and joystick, though it might be an idea to be able to a adjust the positions for the base of the joystick just a little bit for
  Brandy Christiansen: Okay.
  Isabel Lebo: uh ju just a thought. You could simply have a slightly ovoid shaped joystick that could then just be turn uh twisted round, so that the uh sticky uh so that the bit that sticks out a bit more is on one side or the other. But as you as you see with the uh with holding it in the left hand, the L_ uh the L_C_D_ is nowhere useful, so that would need to be articulated uh if we're going to retain ergonomic design. Um now I I got your note about uh keeping the cost down.
  Brandy Christiansen: I'm afraid yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: We'll go into that a bit more, but please go on.
  Isabel Lebo: this design could be done with um with uh plastic casing. Though I would recommend around the grip part here in the middle, having maybe just a rubber grip over that which would allow for a slightly more sort of bio-morphic form, and a bit more ergonomic as well. As for the um as for the single curve, um well this edge and this edge, like I say it would be nice to have some curvature to it, but it's not absolutely necessary. Really the curve that's most needed is the underside so that the jo so that the joystick rests over the the edge of the hand like this. Um and you have the uh transmitter here and a wee speaker for the uh for the uh for the uh fi uh for the remote control finder. So. Any further comments?
  Amy Jackson: Um obviously it's gonna be bulkier looks, because it's gonna be flat on one side, so the L_C_D_ will be s sticking down like this, won't it?
  Isabel Lebo: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
  Amy Jackson: 'Cause it you can't get it curved. Uh
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah, I mean the
  Amy Jackson: because of costs.
  Isabel Lebo: uh
  Amy Jackson: And it's
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah.
  Amy Jackson: plastic as well, so it won't be as comfortable on the hand.
  Brandy Christiansen: Mm.
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah. I mean with the with the rubber design it could i you know it could pretty much mould very much to the to the user's hand. One nice wee feature if we could if we could still do the rubber, I though of was to have the uh rubber extend beyond the end of the uh of the rigid substructure. So it has a wee sort of tail that you just drape over your wrist so it stays in position nicely. Mm. Lovely. Um.
  Amy Jackson: Yeah,
  Brandy Christiansen: Okay, yeah. Great.
  Christine Carney: Right.
  Brandy Christiansen: Um.
  Christine Carney: Yeah I've got a if load up my evaluation
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah, okay.
  Christine Carney: document.
  Isabel Lebo: Okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: Excellent work.
  Christine Carney: Mm.
  Brandy Christiansen: Um.
  Christine Carney: Uh evaluation.
  Christine Carney: Basic point uh have a list of criteria that we need to rate the prototype by. Um then we will it's a seven s um seven seven step kinda evaluation process. So um not seven steps, seven scale. So after we've finished doing all the ratings for each criteria, we average that and that will give us some type of uh confidence in our prototype. And uh the on Real Reactions' kinda and policies, marketing strategies also those I put together from the user requirements. 'Kay. Um if you flip the So, those are the criteria. And uh perhaps I could have put 'em a bit better, but you notice a few things that we've totally abandoned, which means that uh the product will score very badly on some of those points. Put it mildly. So we have um true? One, t Seven, eight, oh. Fourth. Okay, so we have to go through each point. If we imagine it's actually straight, and just give it a a score. So um how well would you say the prototype is uh how well have we realised the dream of being able to stop remotes from from being lost, or to be able to find them once they are lost. I mean, uh is the homing thing still the locator, is that still
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah, that's still part of the design.
  Christine Carney: Sure. And Adam, we can keep that in?
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah, I believe so. So
  Christine Carney: Okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: I mean I don't think anybody could actually stop a remote being lost, 'cause that would mean doing something about the human
  Christine Carney: Sure.
  Brandy Christiansen: element, but I'd like
  Christine Carney: T
  Brandy Christiansen: to think that we've done something about finding
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Brandy Christiansen: the damn thing once we have.
  Christine Carney: Sure.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm. And making it a bright colour helps with the personally I would have gone for purple.
  Christine Carney: Mm. Bright colour. So we still have that noise thing, yeah?
  Isabel Lebo: Mm-hmm.
  Christine Carney: Os on a scale of one to seven, how would you guys rate it for finding finding it once it's lost?
  Isabel Lebo: I'd say number one.
  Christine Carney: Number
  Amy Jackson: One.
  Christine Carney: one?
  Amy Jackson: Yeah.
  Christine Carney: Okay. Number number one for the first criteria.
  Isabel Lebo: I think w if it was just the sounder then th I mean something I've found with uh w w with say tr trying to find uh a cordless phone or a m mobile, you can hear it, but you can't quite pin it dow pin down where it is.
  Christine Carney: Yeah you can tell what room the mobile is
  Isabel Lebo: Bu
  Amy Jackson: find remote. Suppose you have to go to the T_V_ and
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Amy Jackson: do it manually.
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah.
  Amy Jackson: Mm.
  Brandy Christiansen: Mm.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Amy Jackson: Like
  Brandy Christiansen: Um
  Amy Jackson: y you wouldn't hear the speaker.
  Christine Carney: Mm-hmm.
  Brandy Christiansen: just before we go through all of the steps
  Christine Carney: You wanna say something?
  Brandy Christiansen: here, um well what we'll do is um if we can look at the criteria you're gonna evaluate, and then we'll come back to the product evaluation if that's alright.
  Christine Carney: That's fine.
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah, is that
  Christine Carney: Oh that's that's fine.
  Brandy Christiansen: Um so is there anything here that you that you wanted to cover as in the criteria that you've covered? And then we'll come back pretty much promptly to this.
  Christine Carney: What do you mean cr is there anything I
  Brandy Christiansen: I
  Christine Carney: wanna
  Brandy Christiansen: is there any of these criteria that need any explaining? Or is there anything that yous thought tha really would stand out compared to the others?
  Christine Carney: Um, a few. Something I neglected from my initial research is that Real Reactions has a a goal strategy that all of the products be inspired by material fashion, and clothing fashion. That is why fruit and veg being popular in the home and in clothing was important and they want all their products to be somehow inspired by current trends in fashion. So they say we put the fashion in electronics, well they really mean it they they're very big on fashion, so.
  Brandy Christiansen: Okay.
  Christine Carney: That's this bit right here. And uh this bit is this one easy to use for visitors or for anybody? I guess it's just the same as saying easy to use interface, so it's kinda condensed into one. And we can come back to it, you said. So.
  Brandy Christiansen: Okay. No and which we will do very very shortly. Um. Okay. Slight problem we had was that we have an amazing four Euros over budget for what we were hoping to do. Um most of it stems from the use of the L_C_D_ which I think in the end accounted for about half of our expenditure because of course we required a chip as well. Um the only way to get this down was either to ditch the a L_C_D_, at which point we've removed a large part of how we were gonna interface, require more buttons, etcetera. Or what we did was that we um we as in I as I was quickly going over it was altering the actual structure. Um changing it to plastic and a solid unit with a single curve design would allow us to come back into the um proposed costs and we're just scraping it in, we've got point two of a Euro left over there. So we're just managing it really. Even then as well, um there was no criteria technically defined for a joystick so I've used what I think's appropriate. With any luck that won't mean that we've incurred more cost than we can actually afford to. It blows a lot of our really good ideas kind of slightly to one side, for example the possibility of having a U_S_B_ connection is definitely not viable now. Um.
  Christine Carney: Different languages?
  Brandy Christiansen: That should still be viable. We've got an advanced chip, we've got the use of the L_C_D_. So being able
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: to communicate in multiple languages is still very much a possibility. Um but what's something we need to decide on is how we're gonna go from here. We do need to try and come up with an idea which could be continued with other people if need be. Um. We can I can bring the excel up sheet up and uh show you if you wish um. I really think as m much as it pains Christine Carney is that we might have to go with plastic and some kind of solid design, possibly meaning that the L_C_D_ wouldn't be in this perfect place. It might be s stuck like slightly between what would be good for left handed and what would be good for a right handed person.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm-hmm I suppose o one thing that could be done is h is have it um circular and have it s so that the uh the pink actually goes a bit over the pinkie finger.
  Brandy Christiansen: Okay.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Christine Carney: Mm.
  Isabel Lebo: So that uh th
  Brandy Christiansen: It very much is about making concessions, unfortunately. Um.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Christine Carney: Do you have any data on how much um different prints cost? I mean can you get the entire thing printed with a design um?
  Brandy Christiansen: Um b b b da is you mean on the plastic, or? Let's have a look. You now have as much information as I do.
  Christine Carney: Yeah, yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: Um. So as you can see here, for example, the battery really not very little choice in that one. We've gone for one of the cheaper options as well. Unfortunately we require the advanced chip if we're gonna do what we're needing to. I've said single curved. We really do need it to be that way for the ergonomics of it. Um plastic for some reason incurs no cost, which I've had to very much make advantage of, despite the fact that rubber's only got a value of two Euros per unit. Problem comes here as you can see in the interface. Um save point five of a Euro here in that it's not per push button. That might make sense, because then a numeric keypad would come in at um what, four point five Euros, which is an awful lot, so that could well be wrong. Even if we save point five there, it would just mean that we're most likely placing it in actually just gaining a colour for the unit, which has had to be put to one side. As you can see, the use of an L_C_ display um advanced chip and what would determine the scroll wheel here as well because it's an integrated scroll scroll wheel push button that wasn't quite what I think they had in mind with a joystick.
  Christine Carney: Why would why would that be more expensive than an individual push button and scroll wheel together? That's quite significantly expensive.
  Brandy Christiansen: I that's something you'll have to take up with the bean counters. Um
  Isabel Lebo: Mm. yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: as you can see I mean that's taken up well over half of the price.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: So um I'm very much open to suggestions of where we go, but because we need to shed what was four Euros off of the um the price of for what we really desired, this one comes in under price as you can see, but this was the one that sacrificed the material for the case and for the actual case design.
  Christine Carney: We don't even have uh speakers here. The like uh we uh what about speakers and transmitters and stuff like that? Have we factored that in?
  Amy Jackson: Mm.
  Brandy Christiansen: Uh no, we haven't,
  Christine Carney: Transmitter,
  Brandy Christiansen: not
  Christine Carney: receiver, speakers. Plus the extra device itself that's gonna be on a T_V_. Is that gonna be a button, or
  Brandy Christiansen: That'll it literally would just be a button.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Amy Jackson: That's
  Brandy Christiansen: We might have to
  Amy Jackson: too expensive isn't it?
  Brandy Christiansen: It looks like almost nothing Mm. Oh good call, I missed that.
  Christine Carney: I I mean it's not on here, but um.
  Brandy Christiansen: that's a very valid point.
  Christine Carney: Did they s do we have to use an advanced chip for the L_C_D_?
  Amy Jackson: Yeah.
  Christine Carney: Okay. Well that's
  Brandy Christiansen: So
  Christine Carney: yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: if we're gonna go with the L_C_ display, then that's
  Christine Carney: What's a hand dyna dynamo? You have to wind it up?
  Brandy Christiansen: I believe so, yeah. That would probably not be in keeping with the um
  Christine Carney: Technology.
  Brandy Christiansen: the fashion
  Amy Jackson: Fashion.
  Brandy Christiansen: statement
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: and such, yeah.
  Christine Carney: Okay.
  Amy Jackson: So basically the only new thing is the L_C_D_ on the
  Brandy Christiansen: Being
  Amy Jackson: remote
  Brandy Christiansen: manipulated
  Amy Jackson: now.
  Brandy Christiansen: by the joystick, yeah.
  Amy Jackson: Oh, and joystick, yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: Which I'm defining as scroll wheel. Um.
  Christine Carney: And we couldn't replace the joystick, right? Because we would need four extra buttons to replace it, up down left and right, and that would be more expensive than a but is a scroll wheel
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Christine Carney: not just back and forward?
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah it's just because there was no actual definition for what a joystick might be, that that's what I've labelled it for
  Amy Jackson: So
  Brandy Christiansen: the purposes of this evaluation.
  Amy Jackson: The L_C_D_ basically is the big selling point of
  Brandy Christiansen: If we remove the L_C_ display,
  Amy Jackson: the remote.
  Brandy Christiansen: we could save ourselves a fair amount. Which you could
  Amy Jackson: But that's what makes it uh original though, isn't
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Amy Jackson: it?
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: I think if we remove the the L_C_ display then there was absolutely no point to any of these meetings and we just we could just put our branding on any other remote control.
  Christine Carney: Yeah. Yeah. Um. Uh k
  Brandy Christiansen: It's a shame. We should possibly have If we could've increased the price we could've manufactured that and we could've got something far closer to what we were
  Christine Carney: Does this
  Brandy Christiansen: hoping to.
  Christine Carney: does this bear in mind that I mean it's a bit ridiculous that they're gonna charge us what is it, like this much money for three million if we're gonna buy three million components, you know.
  Brandy Christiansen: Again, you'll have to argue with the accountants on that
  Christine Carney: Mm.
  Brandy Christiansen: one. Um but for the purposes of this meeting, I'm we're gonna have to stick with these figures.
  Christine Carney: 'Kay.
  Brandy Christiansen: So, I would say that it would seem like the general opinion is we're gonna keep the L_C_ display 'cause it's about what really separates us,
  Christine Carney: I
  Brandy Christiansen: despite
  Christine Carney: think so.
  Brandy Christiansen: the cost it's gonna incur. Um are people maybe not happy with, but are willing to go ahead with this in going for a plastic solid case, to keep the L_C_D_?
  Isabel Lebo: Mm-hmm. Um yeah I mean one thing, I mean ho uh how much extra would it be to to keep I mean keep the um the articulation?
  Brandy Christiansen: It's hard to tell. Um I would say
  Isabel Lebo: This is
  Brandy Christiansen: that
  Isabel Lebo: what I'm wondering.
  Brandy Christiansen: you're at least gonna take double curved, and even then I'm not quite sure if that's incorporating the idea of articulation.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: Oh no, I think I I it d that it needn't require it to be double
  Amy Jackson: It can
  Isabel Lebo: curved.
  Amy Jackson: be s yeah, it can still be single curved, but
  Isabel Lebo: It's uh it's
  Amy Jackson: You just.
  Brandy Christiansen: Single
  Isabel Lebo: just it's
  Brandy Christiansen: curved with
  Isabel Lebo: just
  Brandy Christiansen: articulation?
  Isabel Lebo: it's just that the case would come in t would be made in two parts and then joined together with an articulation.
  Christine Carney: Could we could we not get rid of the curvy the curvous the curvaceousness and focus on the menu being the best interface? 'Cause like we do we have re restrictions on software?
  Amy Jackson: That's what we need for the joystick I think though.
  Christine Carney: Oh but
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Christine Carney: there has to
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah,
  Christine Carney: be
  Isabel Lebo: I mean and I mean the uh I mean if you look uh if you look closer at the uh at the prototype here, the lines here along the grip are actually quite straight. Um I mean yeah,
  Brandy Christiansen: But
  Isabel Lebo: on the
  Brandy Christiansen: the curves all o over
  Isabel Lebo: on
  Brandy Christiansen: hand, is it?
  Isabel Lebo: the L_C_D_ I mean although we've done it with a curve it could just as easily be done um without curves. The curve that's really needed is up here,
  Christine Carney: joystick.
  Isabel Lebo: to put uh to keep the joystick in a good ergonomic position for it to have it rest on the top of the hand.
  Christine Carney: Okay. Sure. Okay, my bad.
  Brandy Christiansen: We wouldn't actually save a lot by reducing it anyway, so I mean for the purposes of this meeting maybe we can state that single curve still allows articulation.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Brandy Christiansen: Um unless we hear otherwise we could go ahead with that proposal.
  Christine Carney: So I think the product is not gonna perform so well for my criteria.
  Brandy Christiansen: Which is what we can get onto now. As long as so are we gonna say w we have to keep an eye on the time as well, but we're gonna say um
  Christine Carney: Oh, wait
  Brandy Christiansen: single
  Christine Carney: a minute.
  Brandy Christiansen: curved design
  Christine Carney: Sample speaker? What is a sample speaker? Is that somewhat similar to what we want?
  Brandy Christiansen: It could well be,
  Isabel Lebo: Mm
  Brandy Christiansen: but
  Isabel Lebo: no
  Brandy Christiansen: at a cost
  Isabel Lebo: that's
  Brandy Christiansen: of
  Isabel Lebo: that voice response
  Amy Jackson: Costs
  Isabel Lebo: thing
  Amy Jackson: four.
  Isabel Lebo: that we got the email about.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: But I thought it was just completely pointless.
  Christine Carney: You got a email about voice response?
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah.
  Christine Carney: I did not, so.
  Isabel Lebo: Alright. B i basically it was saying that our labs had come up with a chip that you could, you know, say hello to, and it would say hello back in a friendly female voice.
  Brandy Christiansen: Okay, yeah we'll definitely won't go with that one.
  Christine Carney: We won't go with that one, did you say? I mean
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah,
  Christine Carney: I
  Brandy Christiansen: that's
  Christine Carney: we
  Brandy Christiansen: voice recognition, so.
  Christine Carney: Okay, okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: Um. So, okay yeah, battery definitely,
  Christine Carney: So it looks like we're gonna get rid of the whole loca locator thing.
  Brandy Christiansen: It
  Amy Jackson: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: looks like it unless we can manage to put it in under point two Euros,
  Christine Carney: Okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: um.
  Christine Carney: Okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: Maybe even
  Isabel Lebo: Mm-hmm.
  Brandy Christiansen: slight well oh yeah, pretty much point two Euros, I'd say. So we'll leave that one for now. we'll
  Amy Jackson: Are we
  Brandy Christiansen: just
  Amy Jackson: going
  Brandy Christiansen: have
  Amy Jackson: for a special colour at all?
  Brandy Christiansen: It's uh a case of um I'm uh slightly unsure. One point five of a Euro for one push button doesn't sound quite right. So maybe it's a case of a push button is maybe one or more. Um.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Amy Jackson: Well I was
  Brandy Christiansen: At which point
  Amy Jackson: for
  Brandy Christiansen: if
  Amy Jackson: a case. Or had you already incorporated that?
  Christine Carney: Oh, special colour for the case.
  Brandy Christiansen: Well you got point five there. It's literally a case of whether or not this is correct. I'm not quite sure if they're I don't think they mean point five Euros per button.
  Christine Carney: Mm-hmm.
  Isabel Lebo: Okay, well l let's
  Brandy Christiansen: So
  Isabel Lebo: say that and then we can have our special coloured case and then we at least have make it a little harder to lose.
  Brandy Christiansen: There we go.
  Isabel Lebo: that gets camouflaged under any pile of crap in a
  Christine Carney: W
  Isabel Lebo: living
  Christine Carney: what's
  Isabel Lebo: room.
  Christine Carney: the default colour? White or black?
  Brandy Christiansen: Black's probably the normal colour you'd say,
  Isabel Lebo: Or
  Brandy Christiansen: yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: grey.
  Christine Carney: Right.
  Brandy Christiansen: I quite like that
  Isabel Lebo: Yellow.
  Brandy Christiansen: colour that you're fetching there, it's uh definitely for make it glow in the dark even better.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: So will we go with that then?
  Isabel Lebo: Okay.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: It's not and we can see we'll come back to
  Christine Carney: Sure.
  Brandy Christiansen: uh your evaluation which you're probably now going to pan us but
  Christine Carney: Okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: there we go.
  Christine Carney: Okay. So uh
  Brandy Christiansen: Just to give you an idea, um you want to go maybe a bit quickly as well, I'm not sure how much time. We've not hit the five minute mark
  Christine Carney: Right
  Brandy Christiansen: warning
  Christine Carney: okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: yet, but.
  Christine Carney: Okay.
  Amy Jackson: Think it's ten minutes left.
  Brandy Christiansen: Ten.
  Christine Carney: 'Kay. Ability to stop remotes from being lost or to find them once they are lost. Um. Okay.
  Amy Jackson: Special colour.
  Christine Carney: Special colour.
  Brandy Christiansen: Mm
  Christine Carney: Uh
  Brandy Christiansen: mm four?
  Christine Carney: uh four.
  Brandy Christiansen: Three? Mm.
  Christine Carney: Three if
  Isabel Lebo: Three.
  Christine Carney: we're being generous,
  Isabel Lebo: I
  Christine Carney: I
  Isabel Lebo: think
  Christine Carney: feel.
  Isabel Lebo: we can do three.
  Amy Jackson: Three.
  Christine Carney: Think we're being generous
  Isabel Lebo: Th
  Christine Carney: here with three.
  Isabel Lebo: the special colour doesn't would I think make a difference. It makes it stand out from you know it's
  Christine Carney: Mm.
  Isabel Lebo: lost in a big pile of crap, it stands out from the rest of the crap.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: Okay.
  Christine Carney: Okay. Reduce the number of unused buttons. We're down to t two buttons, is it?
  Brandy Christiansen: Two
  Isabel Lebo: Two
  Brandy Christiansen: buttons.
  Isabel Lebo: buttons and a joystick.
  Christine Carney: Okay, so that's a one. You know, where
  Isabel Lebo: Totally.
  Christine Carney: that's
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah. I'd say we're doing well there.
  Christine Carney: Okay, that was good. Easy to use interface, buttons menu, menus that's yeah that's good. 'Kay that's we're not doing so badly. Um easy to use oh okay, let's forget that one.
  Brandy Christiansen: Mm-hmm.
  Christine Carney: Fancy looking.
  Brandy Christiansen: As he
  Isabel Lebo: It
  Brandy Christiansen: models
  Isabel Lebo: doesn't
  Brandy Christiansen: the
  Isabel Lebo: get much fancier.
  Christine Carney: Sure. And we could do whatever we like with the L_ L_C_D_. Yeah let's just assume it's a good L_C_D_ display. Maybe I was panicking for no
  Amy Jackson: Are
  Christine Carney: reason.
  Amy Jackson: we going one on? I'd say we go two, 'cause like f the fanciest would be the double curved.
  Christine Carney: Yeah,
  Amy Jackson: Wouldn't
  Brandy Christiansen: I'd
  Amy Jackson: it?
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Christine Carney: w maybe you'd be a bit
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah.
  Christine Carney: too yeah.
  Amy Jackson: With the articulators.
  Christine Carney: There we go. Yeah,
  Amy Jackson: With
  Christine Carney: that's
  Amy Jackson: bells
  Christine Carney: m
  Amy Jackson: on it.
  Christine Carney: that's that's better too. More accurate numbers. Technologically innovative. Well, we're getting rid of the locator thing which
  Brandy Christiansen: Which is a shame.
  Christine Carney: which yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm. I'd give
  Amy Jackson: No need
  Isabel Lebo: it a three
  Amy Jackson: for teletext.
  Isabel Lebo: for this for that. Yeah. I mean
  Christine Carney: 'Kay.
  Isabel Lebo: the menus thing is something you don't normally see on um on a remote, but you see it in a lot of other places.
  Christine Carney: Yeah, mobile phones.
  Brandy Christiansen: Mm.
  Christine Carney: And y what you're doing is moving the menu from the television to the remote control, so it's
  Isabel Lebo: Mm-hmm.
  Christine Carney: You say three? I might go as far as two on that. Three.
  Isabel Lebo: I'd give
  Brandy Christiansen: I'd
  Isabel Lebo: it
  Brandy Christiansen: be
  Isabel Lebo: a three.
  Brandy Christiansen: tempted with three,
  Christine Carney: Three.
  Brandy Christiansen: yeah.
  Christine Carney: Okay. Okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: We'll get panned on the next one, anyway.
  Christine Carney: Materials that people find pleasing. Sponginess
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah, w
  Christine Carney: is what they really would have wanted, apparently.
  Brandy Christiansen: It is, yeah. Don't blame them. Um because of the way that we've minimalised the number of buttons and such.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: Plastic, it sucks. But it's no worse than any of the other pl remote controls we have.
  Christine Carney: That's true. It's not a step backwards.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm-hmm.
  Amy Jackson: five? Six?
  Isabel Lebo: I'd s I I'd give it a six,
  Amy Jackson: Six,
  Isabel Lebo: to be honest.
  Christine Carney: Yeah, okay let's give it a six. Okay, that's totally thrown everything off balance. Inspired by the latest interior and clothing fashion. W we could. What colour were we gonna
  Amy Jackson: Put
  Christine Carney: make
  Amy Jackson: a leopard
  Christine Carney: it?
  Amy Jackson: print on
  Isabel Lebo: Well I
  Amy Jackson: it.
  Isabel Lebo: I I would sa I would say give a s give a selection of colours. Um we
  Christine Carney: I
  Isabel Lebo: went
  Christine Carney: know,
  Isabel Lebo: with
  Christine Carney: but
  Isabel Lebo: yellow we went with yellow for the prototype 'cause we had yellow. If I were buying one, I'd go for purple. Leopard print would be cool.
  Christine Carney: But um by this I think it's more a case of
  Amy Jackson: Yeah
  Christine Carney: fruit
  Amy Jackson: we gotta.
  Christine Carney: and veg,
  Amy Jackson: I'd
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Amy Jackson: say the colour of the border there world you'd find that, that's that'd stand out.
  Brandy Christiansen: Like yellow, yeah. It would also help keep the the product placement
  Amy Jackson: Logo,
  Brandy Christiansen: s yeah.
  Christine Carney: Mm.
  Amy Jackson: brand. Mm
  Christine Carney: But
  Brandy Christiansen: Is it inspired
  Amy Jackson: 'kay.
  Brandy Christiansen: by clothing fashion?
  Christine Carney: Th th they're referring to the fruit and veg thing. Is this like a banana type colour? Could we stretch no
  Brandy Christiansen: Yes.
  Christine Carney: still, it's not shaped like a banana is
  Brandy Christiansen: It's
  Isabel Lebo: That's
  Brandy Christiansen: kind
  Isabel Lebo: kinda
  Brandy Christiansen: o it probably
  Isabel Lebo: i it won't be when it's been
  Christine Carney: Oh is that 'cause it's flat?
  Isabel Lebo: budgeted.
  Christine Carney: What is what fruit or veg is flat?
  Isabel Lebo: I I think s I I think this isn't not particularly fruit and veggie.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: Um.
  Christine Carney: Or we might have to suffer badly
  Amy Jackson: Yellow
  Christine Carney: for this one as
  Amy Jackson: courgette.
  Christine Carney: well.
  Brandy Christiansen: Well I mean it's probably more fruit and veg than most other things out there bar fruit and veg, so, what, four?
  Christine Carney: Four? Oh that's
  Brandy Christiansen: Is that being
  Christine Carney: it's
  Brandy Christiansen: too generous?
  Christine Carney: very ambitious,
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Christine Carney: yeah, um.
  Isabel Lebo: I'd I'd I don't think fruit and veg is the sole criterion.
  Brandy Christiansen: Oh dear,
  Christine Carney: Sure.
  Isabel Lebo: Is the sole criterion for being um
  Christine Carney: Inspired
  Isabel Lebo: fashion
  Christine Carney: by.
  Isabel Lebo: fashionable or inspired by current fashions. Um I'd g I'd rate I'd rate this fairly highly from that point of view actually.
  Amy Jackson: Well this this what we're gonna t this is their motto, like.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Amy Jackson: And we're we're not doing well on it.
  Christine Carney: This is their strategy. I m imagine we actually had some money invested in this and the amount that we invest is gonna be proportional to the marks. Might we might wanna be a bit more skepible sceptical about this one.
  Brandy Christiansen: What would you think yourself?
  Christine Carney: I would say I mean it's it's not at all, right? In any way or shape or form. We
  Brandy Christiansen: Well,
  Christine Carney: didn't
  Brandy Christiansen: it's
  Christine Carney: m
  Brandy Christiansen: kind of curved and we can make it yellow, and that's pretty much banana like.
  Christine Carney: Okay, the the yellow banana like thing is I think is okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: Si it's got a curve to it.
  Christine Carney: Right five. Is that sound reasonable?
  Brandy Christiansen: Am I
  Amy Jackson: Yeah,
  Brandy Christiansen: do you think
  Amy Jackson: I'll go
  Brandy Christiansen: I'm
  Amy Jackson: with
  Brandy Christiansen: stretching
  Amy Jackson: five.
  Brandy Christiansen: the
  Christine Carney: Five.
  Brandy Christiansen: uh the use of the banana?
  Christine Carney: Yeah. 'Kay, so we have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. So five, seven, ten, sixteen, twenty one. Which gives us an average of three. It's well this would be in the middle. So we it's it's not bad. It's in the good section.
  Brandy Christiansen: It's not bad and considering the don't pick the pen.
  Christine Carney: Oops. Sorry.
  Brandy Christiansen: Um.
  Christine Carney: I'm I'm sorry.
  Brandy Christiansen: Y oh and you've knocked batteries out. Um right
  Amy Jackson: 'S
  Brandy Christiansen: okay
  Amy Jackson: bad
  Brandy Christiansen: it's
  Amy Jackson: design, that thing.
  Brandy Christiansen: considering the price we had to get this in,
  Christine Carney: Mm-hmm.
  Brandy Christiansen: to have a positive you know, even based on the four of us being heavily biased, um
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: it was gonna be quite hard to get anything standing out I'd say possibly, based on um the the cost features.
  Amy Jackson: Mm,
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Christine Carney: Even
  Amy Jackson: yeah.
  Christine Carney: if we were to increase this entire thing by by seven, we were to go down a grade to to four, we would have to do I mean we didn't we weren't that kinda optimistic too optim overly optimistic. You know like we didn't we didn't add we didn't subtract a whole seven points from these things, so I think we're definitely on the good bit. Even if we gave this one seven and this one seven, that's still only three extra points over seven. You know, it's
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Christine Carney: yeah, we did it w it was okay. It was good.
  Isabel Lebo: Personally, I think given that the product um only replaces a single remote control that you've already got, are people really gonna shell out twenty five Euros for something that's only marginally good?
  Amy Jackson: Well, it depends who your who's what the target people are, like you'd say maybe the fashion conscious
  Brandy Christiansen: Maybe it's
  Amy Jackson: women
  Brandy Christiansen: been targeted
  Amy Jackson: would be going, oh look at that, 's cool, it looks like a
  Christine Carney: Mm-hmm.
  Amy Jackson: it's yellow, looks like a banana, it's cool it's gotta look good in the sitting room.
  Brandy Christiansen: Hide it in the
  Amy Jackson: Rather
  Brandy Christiansen: fruit
  Amy Jackson: than
  Brandy Christiansen: basket.
  Amy Jackson: the L_C_D_ whereas uh more technical like like more uh people in with the latest technology it's good, it's got an L_C_D_ screen 's only got two buttons and a joystick. So, which which kind of people would be more likely to buy it?
  Brandy Christiansen: Probably the people technologically. They're usually the ones that buy pointless stuff.
  Christine Carney: I think so. I mean my mum still has not learnt how to use text messaging on her phone, and she's had it for a long time, you know. She uses it to make phone calls and that's it. Yeah. So I think if sh if my mum saw a remote control like this with only two buttons and a joystick, I mean that'll probably be the first one she decides not to buy, you know.
  Brandy Christiansen: Mm-hmm.
  Christine Carney: She'd be like is this a remote control, I don't how do you use it, and stuff like that. So even if it is really user friendly to us, but we're used to using menus all the time.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm-hmm. I s I suppose one thing is that b because it's technically innovative, um for someone who's sort of technophobic, the fact that it simply looks unfamiliar
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: would be daunting.
  Christine Carney: Yeah. I
  Isabel Lebo: Um.
  Christine Carney: think it's totally uh radical to have a remote control with no no
  Amy Jackson: Yeah.
  Christine Carney: numbered buttons, yeah.
  Amy Jackson: Yeah.
  Christine Carney: But like radical good, maybe.
  Brandy Christiansen: Okay. Um don't know how lo much longer we've got. At least five minutes I think. Um quickly we'll pop onto project evaluation. Um. So, we've got these uh four criteria here for uh satisfaction. Does anybody want to um um do you have any opinions on any of them? For example um we'll work backwards I suppose. The ability to work on this project using the technology we've been presented with. Um people made good use of the uh pen and paper? I would
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah,
  Brandy Christiansen: say
  Isabel Lebo: got notes
  Amy Jackson: Yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: and doodles.
  Christine Carney: Wrote nearly a page, but not.
  Brandy Christiansen: I'm not quite sure what the advantage for us using a digital pen might be.
  Christine Carney: I think
  Isabel Lebo: Well I think this
  Christine Carney: tracking.
  Isabel Lebo: is a I think the digital pen's mostly for the benefit
  Brandy Christiansen: Mm.
  Isabel Lebo: of the uh of the researchers studying this. It's all p goes into their corpus. Though
  Brandy Christiansen: It
  Isabel Lebo: it
  Brandy Christiansen: must
  Isabel Lebo: would have been nice to be able to transfer the um transfer our n our paper notes onto the uh computer ourselves.
  Christine Carney: Yeah, that woulda been pretty good.
  Brandy Christiansen: It does seem like the paper's still a heavy consideration for taking notes. So maybe this is literally just a way around it. Um I dunno. How are people satisfied with the teamwork we've managed to display today?
  Amy Jackson: Good.
  Christine Carney: I'd yeah I liked it, yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: Leadership. As much as can be leadered in this uh
  Amy Jackson: Very good.
  Brandy Christiansen: thing.
  Christine Carney: I li yeah, top marks.
  Brandy Christiansen: Um last one we've got is room for creativity.
  Christine Carney: Well
  Brandy Christiansen: Now,
  Isabel Lebo: Unti uh uh
  Brandy Christiansen: I
  Isabel Lebo: until
  Brandy Christiansen: think we
  Isabel Lebo: uh
  Brandy Christiansen: got
  Isabel Lebo: until accounts came along, squish.
  Amy Jackson: We're burs
  Christine Carney: yeah.
  Amy Jackson: bursting with creativity.
  Christine Carney: We we're not lacking in ideas, you know it's that was not the problem.
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah I think of in the end, ideas that can be used sadly. Not so much that we weren't full of ideas, but of ones that are gonna allow us to actually build the thing.
  Christine Carney: Mm-hmm.
  Brandy Christiansen: It's a bit of a pity. Um I would have to agree on that. I think we needed a larger budget.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: If you're going to aim your a um product maybe at the technological kind of sector, then you can afford to maybe jack the price up slightly from what it is. Because
  Isabel Lebo: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: they will pay outrageous cash to
  Isabel Lebo: Mm. I
  Brandy Christiansen: first
  Isabel Lebo: mean I
  Brandy Christiansen: on
  Isabel Lebo: th
  Brandy Christiansen: the
  Isabel Lebo: I
  Brandy Christiansen: market.
  Isabel Lebo: mean I think to r retaining the s the more sort of bio-morphic form in the articulation would gain more in s uh would gain more profit in sales than it would lose in uh in added expense.
  Brandy Christiansen: Mm.
  Amy Jackson: And the price was like it was twice the w assembly cost. And would it have to be twice that? It could be like coulda had the assembly like maybe fifteen Euro.
  Brandy Christiansen: It
  Amy Jackson: We'll
  Brandy Christiansen: could
  Amy Jackson: still
  Brandy Christiansen: even
  Amy Jackson: settle for twenty five.
  Brandy Christiansen: That's
  Amy Jackson: Maybe.
  Brandy Christiansen: true, yeah. Um I suppose these are all that will have to be taken up with a at a different group at I guess. As to a the costs involved. But I mean we've got a a prototype.
  Isabel Lebo: Such as it is.
  Brandy Christiansen: So I dunno, I I think it's gone okay today, considering the information that we've had at our disposal, and um
  Christine Carney: Maybe
  Brandy Christiansen: such.
  Christine Carney: the counts wou woulda been better if we had a list or more Yeah, to begin with.
  Amy Jackson: In the beginning, yeah.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: Probably would have mean we could have come up with a lot more solid
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: design in the end, I would have to agree. It is very much a pity to um get so far into the stage and then find out that maybe some of your ideas are just a bit too expensive. Always hard to tell until you know the costs. Um. Okay. Are the costs within budget? Well, they are now that we have our slightly less than capable product.
  Christine Carney: Okay.
  Brandy Christiansen: We've evaluated it, and we can say that we came out with a value of three.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: Actually I want th one thing I would say I mean something that could perhaps be part of the product mm the um m product testing market research process would be to uh produce mock-ups of both versions and see just how much of a difference the over going over-budget um m would make to sales.
  Brandy Christiansen: It's yeah?
  Christine Carney: And like response from consumers.
  Isabel Lebo: And we could even you know, market two versions. Wee cheapie version with the nice bio-morphic rubber.
  Brandy Christiansen: And then the final one where you get to call it Hal. But we'll
  Isabel Lebo: Yes.
  Brandy Christiansen: go into that later.
  Christine Carney: Sure.
  Brandy Christiansen: Right um is there anything else that anybody would like to to add, um anything they think that's not been covered, before I quickly write up a final report. Um I dunno, I mean we've got a product. We maybe aren't as happy with it as we'd like to be, but we've got something we think we can maybe stick onto the the market and sell. And of course something we have been avoiding talking about 'cause of we've no information is selling them directly to the manufacturers.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Brandy Christiansen: There is a huge market. I mean we've briefly touched on it but we've no more knowledge then there's little we can say on that.
  Christine Carney: Yeah.
  Isabel Lebo: Mm.
  Brandy Christiansen: Yeah. So um unless anybody's got anything they'd like to add, we can maybe round this up slightly earlier than we'd need to and then we can
  Isabel Lebo: And
  Brandy Christiansen: finish
  Isabel Lebo: I can get
  Brandy Christiansen: up the
  Isabel Lebo: my bus.
  Brandy Christiansen: writing and such. Yeah?
  Isabel Lebo: Okay.
  Christine Carney: Yeah. Okay, let's
  Brandy Christiansen: Uh thank you for your participation.
  Christine Carney: Thank you.
  Isabel Lebo: Thank you.
  Christine Carney: I was actually kind of upset you know at the budget, and that we had to cut a lot of stuff. It's like man, we we can't have the locator thing. And s yeah that's just bad. Do you think maybe the prices were were made?
  Brandy Christiansen: That a question we can ask.
Updated Content: Brandy Christiansen recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting and two team members presented a prototype for the remote the team is designing and discussed its ergonomic appearance and its features. Christine Carney began to lead the team in conducting an evaluation of the prototype but was interrupted when Brandy Christiansen shifted the discussion to examining the production costs of the team's product. The original specifications of the team's product proved to be too expensive and so the team had to discuss which features to lose and which to maintain in order to meet the target cost. After discussing costs, the team returned to conducting their product evaluation. The prototype was evaluated on the basis of its ability to be located when misplaced, ease of use, appearance, technological innovativeness, and sponginess. Overall, the prototype received average marks. The team then evaluated the project process, finding that they were happy overall but quite displeased with the small budget.