Extracted Content: Katherine Mcclain: Great man. Who starts?
  Rose Jewell: Well I'll uh start just with another presentation,
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright,
  Rose Jewell: then
  Katherine Mcclain: great.
  Rose Jewell: we can uh look at th at the agenda uh for this meeting.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: Okay. I've put some uh new things in the in the map.
  Katherine Mcclain: Mm-hmm.
  Rose Jewell: Uh oh. This is it. I don't know the shortcut, so Ah F_ five. Well our functional design meeting, that's the stage we're in.
  Theresa Brown: Mm.
  Rose Jewell: And you also ha all three of you have uh prepared something about it.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yes.
  Rose Jewell: Well in uh just have a look at the notes from the previous meeting, what we uh thought we had dec decided. But uh Uh then we'll uh look at uh the three uh presentations uh from you.
  Katherine Mcclain: 'Kay.
  Rose Jewell: I think you have prepared uh all
  Theresa Brown: Well,
  Rose Jewell: three
  Theresa Brown: yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: uh? Um we'll look at th the new project requirements we uh I dunno. Y you also have uh received that mail, the new project requirements from our bosses?
  Theresa Brown: No.
  Katherine Mcclain: No.
  Rose Jewell: Oh I've received a mail
  Katherine Mcclain: You're the
  Rose Jewell: with
  Katherine Mcclain: only one.
  Rose Jewell: uh some additional requirements,
  Theresa Brown: Oh
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: and I'll have a look if Well I think we should show them before your presentations, because it's not really uh smart uh to uh to include some things uh we can't, because of the new requirements.
  Katherine Mcclain: 'Kay.
  Rose Jewell: Well um then we can make some decisions about our remote control functions. We have to deb we have to decide it in this meeting what our function will be. And then uh we can discuss uh some more closely.
  Theresa Brown: We have
  Rose Jewell: Uh
  Theresa Brown: forty minutes for this uh discussion?
  Rose Jewell: Uh yeah, I think so.
  Theresa Brown: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: Well uh the closing uh we'll not uh look at it yet.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: Um now I'll look at show this board. Um Well uh notes, first meeting. Now. I gave a disc a a presentation. Uh we familiarised ourself with the boards and then we discussed some first ideas. So we said that uh we have to merge the strong points from our uh competitors,
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: and uh look at their uh remote controls. We should make it uh compatible with our new D_V_D_ and other releases we have, our technical releases.
  Theresa Brown: Huh?
  Rose Jewell: Uh not too many one buttons. One recognisable button in the middle, where you do the most important functions with. And um well they can have two functions, because uh you have a D_V_D_ and a television.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Um the design has to fit the hand, be original, but also be familiar. It's uh one of our ideas. Yeah well that wa It's just thirty minutes ago, so it's not quite uh
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm, now it's right.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: But well I have to do it. The materials uh well should be hard plastic with rubber from, and uh well the labelling of the buttons should be indestructible. It should
  Theresa Brown: It's
  Rose Jewell: be
  Theresa Brown: meant
  Rose Jewell: uh recognisable
  Theresa Brown: to be easily
  Rose Jewell: at
  Theresa Brown: wiped
  Rose Jewell: all
  Theresa Brown: out,
  Rose Jewell: times.
  Theresa Brown: yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Mm.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: Okay.
  Rose Jewell: Well fronts were to be just like mobile telephones. And uh the technical aspects um And also labelling of the buttons, the functions should be universal standards. Well that's just uh some ideas from the first meeting.
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Rose Jewell: It's quite logical al all of it. Um now the new project requirements, I'll just show them. I got this mail from uh our bosses. Well, teletext goes out.
  Vanessa Wright: Oh.
  Rose Jewell: We will not use teletext.
  Katherine Mcclain: Okay.
  Rose Jewell: Maybe
  Theresa Brown: I I
  Rose Jewell: a
  Theresa Brown: disagree,
  Rose Jewell: new sort
  Theresa Brown: but
  Rose Jewell: of thing,
  Theresa Brown: uh it's
  Rose Jewell: but
  Theresa Brown: not
  Rose Jewell: n
  Theresa Brown: uh t
  Rose Jewell: but not teletext.
  Theresa Brown: it's not my place to
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: disagree I guess.
  Rose Jewell: the second is a bit sh pity because we just said
  Vanessa Wright: Oh.
  Rose Jewell: we wanted to d include the D_V_D_ and they don't want it, because
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: of our time we have for this project.
  Theresa Brown: Oh, alright.
  Vanessa Wright: Oh that's a shame.
  Rose Jewell: So that's a shame, because uh especially for the third requirement we want to reach people under the thirty years. Because uh we don't have those customers a lot at th at this point. Um well it's a bit pity because it's just those people want to have uh one remote control for all those technical devices they
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: can uh
  Katherine Mcclain: But let's
  Rose Jewell: reach
  Katherine Mcclain: forget
  Rose Jewell: it.
  Katherine Mcclain: about it. It's just time-consuming,
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: so we uh have to go
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: on.
  Rose Jewell: and uh our corporate image should stay rec recognisable in our products. So uh we have to uh use uh maybe a slogan, maybe a colour, and um Yeah well uh on our remote controls the design has to be uh, well as we already said a actually, uh familiar.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yes.
  Rose Jewell: Uh not only just uh the shape but also our company.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah, we are a real fashionable company. I read uh I read it
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: on the
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Mm.
  Theresa Brown: I didn't know what company we were, but we uh especially trendy uh
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: trendy trendy stuff. So it
  Rose Jewell: Okay.
  Theresa Brown: has to be uh a modern design. That's important to know, uh when you design a thing of course.
  Rose Jewell: Yes. I I uh noted uh our uh slogan that we have, our company. It's uh we mm put the fashion in electronics.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: So maybe that's a slogan we can put uh somewhere on our remote control or something.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Alright then um we're going to uh have
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: three presentations. You want to start?
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah. I think I have to start.
  Rose Jewell: Oh you have to start? I didn't see anything about uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Oh no,
  Rose Jewell: who had to
  Theresa Brown: The
  Katherine Mcclain: no
  Rose Jewell: start.
  Theresa Brown: order?
  Katherine Mcclain: problem.
  Theresa Brown: No.
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Vanessa Wright: Mm.
  Rose Jewell: s
  Katherine Mcclain: I
  Rose Jewell: then start.
  Katherine Mcclain: just have to uh to think which file's mine, 'cause I was uh bit in a hurry.
  Rose Jewell: Okay. Well uh
  Katherine Mcclain: I think it's this one. But I'm not sure.
  Rose Jewell: You
  Katherine Mcclain: Hmm?
  Rose Jewell: already uh opened uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: PowerPoint.
  Katherine Mcclain: S Right. Yes. This is it.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Well, I'm going to tell you something about functional requirements.
  Rose Jewell: Mm-hmm.
  Katherine Mcclain: Um to start with these points. Uh next sheet? Um at first I tell you something about what people dislike about the current uh controls, because it's uh a smart thing to exclude those things. Uh, furthermore it's very important what they do like and what they do use. Um then I tell something about um the most important issues. So we have to focus on those three thing three things. And in the end I'll um show you our target audience or our target product users, customers. Well, um the first findings are that people um think most controls are very kind of ug ugly. That's seventy five per cent of the current users. They don't like it, so we might think about fronts in that section. Um They also say, that's about uh I thought it was fifty per cent, uh that more money will be spent on uh better looking controls. So it's very important that you design a a nice looking control. Um the current user uses his machine just about well all of the time for a few functions. Uh, almost every user uses it d the the control for just ten per cent of its capacity. So it's really important to make the the buttons for the common uh tasks kind of big or kind of uh flashy. Furthermore, it's uh seventy five per cent of the users uh zaps a lot. Thus it might be uh might be smart to make a a big uh zapping button or something in the middle, so you can reach it with your thumb.
  Theresa Brown: You can
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: zap away.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: yeah right. Right. A lot of losers um users lose their controls in their in their living room. So it might be sensible to make some kind of a button on your television, that's your um your control beeps or something, that you can find
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: this very easily. I dunno, maybe that's
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: an idea. 'Cause it's
  Theresa Brown: Oh.
  Katherine Mcclain: uh a big I think fifty per cent of the users loses his its control,
  Theresa Brown: Oh?
  Rose Jewell: It should
  Katherine Mcclain: within the
  Rose Jewell: actually
  Katherine Mcclain: same room.
  Rose Jewell: uh It
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: should actually be loose from the television, because it can also be used for other televisions. So if you deliver a small uh click-on device that you can put on your television, that bleeps to your remote control,
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: everyone
  Katherine Mcclain: but what
  Rose Jewell: can
  Katherine Mcclain: if
  Rose Jewell: use
  Katherine Mcclain: you lose
  Rose Jewell: it.
  Katherine Mcclain: your click-on device?
  Rose Jewell: No you can click it on your television.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah but if someone d somebody else uses it in ano other room or something?
  Rose Jewell: Yeah in another room, yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Nee
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: but it it specifically
  Rose Jewell: yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: says it's uh the the control is lost in the same room.
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: So Well a beeping
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: device would
  Rose Jewell: we'll
  Katherine Mcclain: be
  Rose Jewell: have a look at it, yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Uh furthermore the learning time is a problem. Uh thirty four thirty four per cent um thinks it's it's too uh too difficult to learn. So the the learning curve should be very short uh for the dumbest people should be able to use it.
  Theresa Brown: I think our uh user uh expert should also consider manual a manual for the remote, of course.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah
  Theresa Brown: Uh
  Katherine Mcclain: but people don't read manuals.
  Theresa Brown: I didn't read it? Oh,
  Katherine Mcclain: No.
  Vanessa Wright: No.
  Theresa Brown: alright. users to uh add one? Do you think?
  Vanessa Wright: I don't think
  Katherine Mcclain: I think you should put more time in the in the design of uh
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: pick up and use,
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Vanessa Wright: Yes
  Katherine Mcclain: than
  Vanessa Wright: you should
  Katherine Mcclain: a manual.
  Vanessa Wright: You should
  Theresa Brown: Yeah alright.
  Rose Jewell: Yep.
  Vanessa Wright: could take
  Theresa Brown: Because
  Vanessa Wright: a look at
  Theresa Brown: they don't
  Vanessa Wright: it
  Theresa Brown: use
  Vanessa Wright: and
  Theresa Brown: it?
  Vanessa Wright: and
  Theresa Brown: Alright.
  Vanessa Wright: and know how it how it's supposed to work.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah. Right.
  Rose Jewell: but it c
  Katherine Mcclain: And
  Rose Jewell: can
  Katherine Mcclain: it should
  Rose Jewell: be very
  Katherine Mcclain: be consistent
  Rose Jewell: short.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah but
  Katherine Mcclain: with consistent
  Vanessa Wright: nobody reads
  Katherine Mcclain: with older
  Vanessa Wright: a manual
  Katherine Mcclain: remotes.
  Vanessa Wright: about a remote control, I think.
  Rose Jewell: Yes okay.
  Theresa Brown: Well maybe for
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Theresa Brown: the If you don't recognise a button who d who d who do I call uh wh
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah right.
  Theresa Brown: when I don't
  Vanessa Wright: It sh it
  Theresa Brown: know
  Vanessa Wright: should
  Theresa Brown: it?
  Vanessa Wright: be there, the manual. But but not to how the remote. Only
  Katherine Mcclain: And we don't have much time. So it's better to uh put our attention to the the design. So you can pick up and use it, than
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: I
  Rose Jewell: we
  Katherine Mcclain: think.
  Rose Jewell: are a design
  Vanessa Wright: Hmm.
  Rose Jewell: team, we can say to some uh writer uh make a manual
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: point.
  Katherine Mcclain: right,
  Theresa Brown: Isn't it
  Katherine Mcclain: right.
  Theresa Brown: part of
  Rose Jewell: So
  Theresa Brown: the of the u No. No.
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: Never mind.
  Rose Jewell: we'll have a look.
  Katherine Mcclain: Next
  Rose Jewell: Um
  Katherine Mcclain: point.
  Rose Jewell: yes?
  Katherine Mcclain: Um R_S_I_. Well that's about twenty per cent I thought. But uh the designer should uh take it uh should uh Wie zeg
  Theresa Brown: Consider
  Katherine Mcclain: ik dat?
  Theresa Brown: the m
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, consider the consequences of using your remote. It
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: should be a good in your hand.
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Rose Jewell: Yep.
  Katherine Mcclain: Right, this is the most important part. Um, we're Like the requirements said, we're gonna specify of we're gonna target a younger audience. Um, that's about sixty per cent of the market, so it's uh quite important. Um research shows that they like to have a little L_C_D_ screen on their on their uh zapping uh device. Uh I
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: thought it was the age between sixteen and twenty, ninety nine per cent of uh the people like that. So it's very important we should definitely have that in our uh designs.
  Rose Jewell: Well with twelve Euro fifty as production cost, we can't
  Theresa Brown: It's
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Theresa Brown: going
  Rose Jewell: afford
  Theresa Brown: to be expensive.
  Rose Jewell: an
  Vanessa Wright: No.
  Rose Jewell: L_C_D_
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah but they think it's really important. So if
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: we want to s If we have a big If we make lots of uh of the stuff, maybe we can uh buy it very cheap, I dunno. We have to uh
  Theresa Brown: Well we'll
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: uh consider it uh.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah well uh it's
  Theresa Brown: We'll
  Rose Jewell: your
  Theresa Brown: think abo
  Rose Jewell: your task
  Theresa Brown: we'll think
  Rose Jewell: to uh look into the costs uh of
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Rose Jewell: those uh
  Katherine Mcclain: I don't know. I don't have any information on
  Rose Jewell: Nigh
  Katherine Mcclain: that. So
  Theresa Brown: No, we'll
  Rose Jewell: I
  Theresa Brown: look
  Rose Jewell: know.
  Theresa Brown: we'll look into that later.
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Theresa Brown: Alright?
  Katherine Mcclain: And uh another thing is uh speech uh recognition. They also like that, but research is very uh costly.
  Vanessa Wright: I
  Katherine Mcclain: So
  Vanessa Wright: think that's uh difficult to realise also.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, but it it might be important for
  Theresa Brown: We
  Katherine Mcclain: the sale.
  Theresa Brown: have very demanding clients.
  Rose Jewell: It's not yet a standard uh development uh those
  Vanessa Wright: No and we have
  Rose Jewell: so
  Vanessa Wright: customers in multiple
  Rose Jewell: We
  Katherine Mcclain: think
  Rose Jewell: sh
  Vanessa Wright: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: L_C_D_ is
  Vanessa Wright: countries
  Katherine Mcclain: more
  Vanessa Wright: I think.
  Katherine Mcclain: reachable than the speech
  Rose Jewell: Yeah
  Katherine Mcclain: recognition.
  Rose Jewell: absolutely.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: So we might consider L_C_D_ screens.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah, yeah, alright. Well
  Vanessa Wright: No.
  Theresa Brown: we'll consider both and and see what uh what what we can find, I think.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: Yep.
  Theresa Brown: We don't rule them out uh yet.
  Rose Jewell: 'Kay.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright. Um, I think that's it. Um
  Rose Jewell: Alright.
  Katherine Mcclain: I think it is sensible to u uh to take this take these points into the notes.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: So you can Right.
  Rose Jewell: Well you I c I can uh still see your presentation.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah. Right.
  Rose Jewell: It's in the Well uh next um I dunno who is next. You uh got uh
  Theresa Brown: Shall I give
  Vanessa Wright: Oh
  Theresa Brown: a
  Vanessa Wright: you
  Theresa Brown: technical
  Vanessa Wright: go.
  Theresa Brown: talk?
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: Well go ahead.
  Theresa Brown: Well uh it is my task to uh explain uh or to point out a working design.
  Rose Jewell: Yip.
  Theresa Brown: We have that here. Okay, how do you enlarge it, so that
  Rose Jewell: F_
  Theresa Brown: you can
  Rose Jewell: five.
  Theresa Brown: have the F_ F_ five.
  Rose Jewell: F_ five.
  Theresa Brown: Yep.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Theresa Brown: Well, the working design, that's my uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Next button.
  Theresa Brown: Well alright uh, you know who I am and what I do. So uh we have this. It's a bit uh unclear because I wanted to copy paste something. It
  Katherine Mcclain: Oh
  Theresa Brown: was
  Katherine Mcclain: right.
  Theresa Brown: originally in black and white but it became black and
  Katherine Mcclain: Purple.
  Theresa Brown: purple. But I think you can read it.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, yeah,
  Theresa Brown: Um
  Katherine Mcclain: yeah. A bit.
  Theresa Brown: well um I think it's important uh for you to realise the basic function of a remote control. Uh well you can see uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Maybe you can select it. So it uh inverts.
  Theresa Brown: And I then can select I can select on the
  Katherine Mcclain: the
  Theresa Brown: dings It
  Katherine Mcclain: p the
  Theresa Brown: goes
  Katherine Mcclain: whole
  Theresa Brown: to the next
  Katherine Mcclain: picture.
  Theresa Brown: page.
  Katherine Mcclain: Nah, uh
  Rose Jewell: Click.
  Katherine Mcclain: never mind.
  Theresa Brown: Well, you can read it, it's not
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: too difficult.
  Vanessa Wright: go
  Theresa Brown: Meanwhile,
  Vanessa Wright: ahead.
  Theresa Brown: this is a schematic uh um view of uh how a basic remote control works. You have uh basically uh the energy, the power of the of the remote control, uh and the sender, w which is the LED, the the the the the the the the the bulb that sends the the infrared
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: beam to the, no, to the set.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Theresa Brown: And uh the source is of course the user. Uh the user interface is um uh the the the buttons of course. And the the user interface sends uh the the different signals of the different buttons to the chip, and the chip uh sends it to the LED, and the LED sends it to the receiver. That's the that's the basic
  Rose Jewell: Yep.
  Theresa Brown: idea. Very basic. Um well I have uh uh put it in a in in in a a couple of basic steps. Uh the remote uh is basically just waiting for a user to press a key. It does nothing until uh of course uh the key is pressed. The key a signal to a chip, uh the chip senses the connection. uh and recognise the key. So well you understand. The chip uh produces Morse code, um a specific code to indicate that specific button that is pressed, of course. And it uses transistors in the in the remote control to amplify and to send uh that signal again to the to the LED, which is the bulb, of course. Now the LED produces an infrared beam and signals the, well it's uh very simple, and signals the
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: uh signals to the sensor on the T_V_ set, and the T_V_ set uh also recognises the the the signal, and performs the assigned task.
  Rose Jewell: So it is also why we have to have a button that says uh I'm now busy with a D_V_D_ uh if we had done that. And a
  Theresa Brown: Ah
  Rose Jewell: button
  Theresa Brown: bu Yeah,
  Rose Jewell: for
  Theresa Brown: but we don't.
  Rose Jewell: T_V_.
  Theresa Brown: Uh we No
  Rose Jewell: So
  Theresa Brown: no, but Yeah. Exactly. Uh well this is uh the basic uh function of a remote. I've some couple of pictures here. It's a very basic one. And uh if we if we're going to add an uh an uh L_C_D_ screen to it, it uh won't look anything like this, but This is very basic uh basically the the shape of um of a remote control. It has uh very little buttons and But it it uh it's it's quite um Yeah, you can easily recognise the buttons. They're uh far enough apart and an anything. It's not very um
  Vanessa Wright: High
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Vanessa Wright: tech.
  Theresa Brown: not very high-tech uh indeed, and it's not very user-friendly. So we have to uh change a little bit uh to that, uh so that uh it becomes more user-friendly, and that uh problems like uh R_S_I_ and uh those kinds
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Theresa Brown: of thing don't don't
  Katherine Mcclain: Can I say
  Theresa Brown: oc
  Katherine Mcclain: something?
  Theresa Brown: don't occur. Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Um I have a table here about uh the l the relevance of the buttons. Uh the power button is used very much, channel selection, volume and teletext. Well teletext is not an option,
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Katherine Mcclain: so that uh But I think it's very important to make um the power, channel and volume buttons uh near to the thumb, so you can't have R_S_I_ uh consequences.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah, because they are the the most important buttons
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Theresa Brown: and you can
  Katherine Mcclain: Make
  Theresa Brown: immediately
  Katherine Mcclain: them big, make them easy to uh
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: to press.
  Theresa Brown: You
  Vanessa Wright: You
  Theresa Brown: don't
  Rose Jewell: but
  Vanessa Wright: can
  Theresa Brown: have
  Vanessa Wright: also
  Theresa Brown: to look and
  Rose Jewell: but
  Theresa Brown: and
  Vanessa Wright: like
  Theresa Brown: search for them.
  Rose Jewell: if you have
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: um the most used buttons all in one place, and you keep making the same um well moves.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Katherine Mcclain: right.
  Vanessa Wright: I was
  Rose Jewell: But
  Vanessa Wright: thinking
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: if
  Vanessa Wright: you
  Rose Jewell: y if
  Vanessa Wright: can
  Rose Jewell: you would put it at a different place, then you have to move your hands, and that's
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Vanessa Wright: Are
  Rose Jewell: on
  Katherine Mcclain: that's
  Vanessa Wright: some
  Rose Jewell: of
  Katherine Mcclain: right.
  Rose Jewell: the things
  Vanessa Wright: of the
  Rose Jewell: about R_S_I_.
  Katherine Mcclain: That's right.
  Vanessa Wright: the
  Katherine Mcclain: That's right.
  Theresa Brown: Well
  Vanessa Wright: the
  Theresa Brown: you
  Vanessa Wright: um
  Katherine Mcclain: We
  Theresa Brown: you can't have any uh every button under the thumb, of course.
  Rose Jewell: No but the most
  Katherine Mcclain: But
  Rose Jewell: important buttons m maybe you can just put them a bit apart
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: so you would
  Katherine Mcclain: That's very important. And
  Rose Jewell: reject R_ R_S_I_ R_S_I_.
  Vanessa Wright: Maybe you can make, for for channel changing, two little buttons on the side of the remote, so you can just do like this. Like
  Rose Jewell: Yes
  Vanessa Wright: some
  Rose Jewell: I've saw
  Vanessa Wright: uh
  Rose Jewell: that on m on mi mobile telephones
  Vanessa Wright: little
  Rose Jewell: they also
  Vanessa Wright: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: But
  Rose Jewell: have
  Katherine Mcclain: is
  Vanessa Wright: Gameboy
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: that
  Rose Jewell: those
  Katherine Mcclain: is
  Vanessa Wright: things
  Rose Jewell: buttons.
  Katherine Mcclain: that useable?
  Vanessa Wright: or some Hmm?
  Katherine Mcclain: Do people, uh when they pick up a remote, know that they have to do that? It's
  Vanessa Wright: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: a f it's a new feature,
  Rose Jewell: Well it
  Katherine Mcclain: you
  Rose Jewell: it's
  Katherine Mcclain: can
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: make make
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah alright,
  Katherine Mcclain: a double
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Katherine Mcclain: feature l like a button on the top and under
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Katherine Mcclain: it.
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Rose Jewell: also i
  Vanessa Wright: if
  Rose Jewell: if
  Vanessa Wright: you s
  Rose Jewell: someone
  Vanessa Wright: say
  Rose Jewell: puts
  Vanessa Wright: them
  Rose Jewell: picks
  Vanessa Wright: up
  Rose Jewell: up
  Vanessa Wright: and down,
  Rose Jewell: his uh
  Vanessa Wright: they they'll
  Rose Jewell: remote
  Vanessa Wright: understand it, I think.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Eighty
  Theresa Brown: Well,
  Vanessa Wright: per cent would.
  Rose Jewell: If someone puts up i uh picks up his remote, and he picks up it he he touches the side then
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Rose Jewell: he's a already
  Katherine Mcclain: he feels
  Rose Jewell: on the next
  Katherine Mcclain: it immediately.
  Rose Jewell: channel.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: That's
  Vanessa Wright: that's
  Rose Jewell: very
  Vanessa Wright: true.
  Rose Jewell: irritating,
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, that's right.
  Rose Jewell: I think.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: Well.
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Katherine Mcclain: Right, continue. Sorry.
  Theresa Brown: But in e in any case the
  Rose Jewell: No.
  Theresa Brown: the basic function should be uh indeed, and as you say at the thumb. I think that's a good idea, and uh and that the less important uh buttons, like the the the different channels, uh the numbers one two three four five as well, should be uh yeah well not in reach, because uh they don't use it uh all the time. Well it's uh pretty pretty
  Rose Jewell: Yep.
  Theresa Brown: basically uh as you said. And I have some pictures of the inside workings, but uh I don't want to get too technical, because
  Rose Jewell: Mm-hmm.
  Theresa Brown: uh that's not uh very uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, that's
  Theresa Brown: useful
  Katherine Mcclain: right.
  Rose Jewell: That's
  Theresa Brown: for
  Rose Jewell: your
  Theresa Brown: you.
  Rose Jewell: part of the job.
  Theresa Brown: So yeah exactly this is uh how it uh looks from the inside.
  Rose Jewell: Yep.
  Theresa Brown: And uh well that's about it I think. Oh yeah, I still have this. Oh I had to delete this, but I had to make a schematic
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Theresa Brown: uh of the of the new But I had too
  Rose Jewell: Okay.
  Theresa Brown: too little time, but uh don't uh
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: don't look at it please.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Theresa Brown: I I think
  Rose Jewell: we understand.
  Theresa Brown: it's it's clear uh
  Rose Jewell: We understand.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: how
  Katherine Mcclain: it's
  Theresa Brown: it
  Katherine Mcclain: clear.
  Theresa Brown: works. Alright.
  Rose Jewell: Oh right,
  Theresa Brown: That's
  Rose Jewell: no.
  Theresa Brown: the most important thing.
  Rose Jewell: Nice.
  Theresa Brown: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: Then
  Theresa Brown: Uh
  Rose Jewell: uh Mike can uh give the third presentation. How
  Theresa Brown: Right.
  Rose Jewell: late is did we start his presentation
  Katherine Mcclain: I dunno.
  Rose Jewell: uh?
  Katherine Mcclain: I think uh w About
  Rose Jewell: Wha
  Katherine Mcclain: twenty minutes ago?
  Rose Jewell: Yeah. Well
  Katherine Mcclain: Losing time losing
  Rose Jewell: then we
  Katherine Mcclain: time.
  Rose Jewell: have still the time, so But we do have to come to a decision,
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah right.
  Rose Jewell: right
  Katherine Mcclain: So
  Rose Jewell: later on. So
  Vanessa Wright: Mm. Well I thought um everybody on the website uh would see the same thing, but
  Katherine Mcclain: I don't think
  Vanessa Wright: obviously
  Katherine Mcclain: so.
  Vanessa Wright: that's not the case.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah, uh there are different uh We have all have different home pages,
  Rose Jewell: Oh yeah?
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: with different links. Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah right.
  Rose Jewell: Uh?
  Vanessa Wright: For instance you couldn't see this.
  Rose Jewell: Okay, yeah well.
  Vanessa Wright: Um Yeah. Well I'm Mike, User Interface
  Rose Jewell: Mm-hmm.
  Vanessa Wright: Designer. The the method? Well I used my own experience with remotes, took a good l look uh at the remotes on the corporate website, which are these two.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Um
  Katherine Mcclain: These are already in use?
  Vanessa Wright: Yes, these are from from another uh manufacturer.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright,
  Vanessa Wright: Um
  Katherine Mcclain: okay.
  Vanessa Wright: This one is engineering-centred, so this one has the most functions and um things. This one is user-centred.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Vanessa Wright: Um
  Katherine Mcclain: Well
  Rose Jewell: I like user-centred.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, Katherine Mcclain too.
  Vanessa Wright: I like user-centr centred
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: uh uh also the best.
  Rose Jewell: We also do that.
  Vanessa Wright: Um Well, I thought uh that we uh reduce the the option to control the D_V_D_ also, and teletext and that kind of stuff.
  Katherine Mcclain: Mm.
  Vanessa Wright: Uh so I thought we we we would use more or need more buttons than this one.
  Katherine Mcclain: But we have to reject
  Vanessa Wright: But
  Katherine Mcclain: that, because
  Vanessa Wright: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: of the requirements?
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Th that's why this mm is not relevant any more I
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Vanessa Wright: feel. Um I think this is about the maximum number of buttons uh we'll need.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, right.
  Vanessa Wright: I um I kinda like the shape. I think this is what we talked about. But
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: You can't really see uh the differ from different sides. But I think
  Vanessa Wright: No
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Vanessa Wright: I've Well I showed it somewhere. Um
  Theresa Brown: Uh you can draw it if you Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Oh yeah. I think we should go further with the idea of a removable front. So
  Rose Jewell: Mm-hmm.
  Vanessa Wright: we can can uh yeah customise the
  Rose Jewell: Well absolutely, but i th they all have to have something about um the recognition from our company. So
  Vanessa Wright: Mm?
  Rose Jewell: we cannot just uh
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: make someone
  Vanessa Wright: It's a front.
  Rose Jewell: w
  Vanessa Wright: It's not the the whole remote that changes, of
  Rose Jewell: No
  Vanessa Wright: course.
  Rose Jewell: but
  Katherine Mcclain: But
  Vanessa Wright: You
  Rose Jewell: that's
  Katherine Mcclain: it
  Vanessa Wright: can
  Rose Jewell: th the side they look uh look at is the front. So if y if you make a a front with just a a tiger on it, then uh
  Vanessa Wright: Mm.
  Rose Jewell: our recognition is totally gone.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, that's right.
  Vanessa Wright: Or you can you can can put the same symbol on on every
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Vanessa Wright: remote. So
  Katherine Mcclain: that's
  Vanessa Wright: l
  Katherine Mcclain: a must.
  Vanessa Wright: like
  Katherine Mcclain: We
  Rose Jewell: Yeah,
  Katherine Mcclain: must
  Vanessa Wright: Ericsson
  Katherine Mcclain: have
  Theresa Brown: We
  Katherine Mcclain: that.
  Theresa Brown: can
  Rose Jewell: we
  Theresa Brown: put
  Rose Jewell: must.
  Vanessa Wright: does
  Theresa Brown: it on the on the back side.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah
  Vanessa Wright: every uh
  Rose Jewell: well and and
  Vanessa Wright: S something like this.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Vanessa Wright: It's recognisable.
  Rose Jewell: 'Kay.
  Katherine Mcclain: We can
  Vanessa Wright: Um
  Katherine Mcclain: make a symbol of the company right here. And if you
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah?
  Katherine Mcclain: put a front on it, there's a hole on the front. So
  Theresa Brown: Yeah,
  Katherine Mcclain: the symbol's
  Theresa Brown: so that
  Katherine Mcclain: always
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Theresa Brown: you
  Rose Jewell: Yeah
  Vanessa Wright: yeah.
  Theresa Brown: don't
  Rose Jewell: yeah
  Vanessa Wright: Something
  Theresa Brown: replace
  Rose Jewell: yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: like that,
  Theresa Brown: the symbol,
  Vanessa Wright: in the
  Theresa Brown: yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Or
  Katherine Mcclain: on
  Rose Jewell: the
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: th the the lowest part of the remote isn't changed
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Rose Jewell: by the front.
  Katherine Mcclain: yeah.
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Katherine Mcclain: But
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: let's
  Rose Jewell: Those
  Katherine Mcclain: not
  Rose Jewell: kind
  Katherine Mcclain: focus
  Rose Jewell: of things.
  Katherine Mcclain: on the
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: front.
  Rose Jewell: Okay.
  Vanessa Wright: Um Well so uh uh like I said I thought we'd we'd use more function. If we we had to include more functions. But we don't. So um
  Rose Jewell: Mm-hmm.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Vanessa Wright: I think this is about the maximum number of buttons we need. Maybe some less. Like eject we don't need, and some other buttons we don't need. I think
  Theresa Brown: Mike,
  Vanessa Wright: uh
  Theresa Brown: uh can you put uh that picture from Katherine Mcclain on the in the Word documents file?
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: In Map?
  Vanessa Wright: I will. I think uh for the remote um uh less is more. The less buttons the better the design. Um
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Vanessa Wright: We
  Katherine Mcclain: I
  Vanessa Wright: should
  Katherine Mcclain: agree.
  Vanessa Wright: go with that concept I think. I know.
  Rose Jewell: Alright.
  Katherine Mcclain: I've I've got another point.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah?
  Katherine Mcclain: Um there are two target audi audiences, and we've uh chose for the younger one. Um,
  Vanessa Wright: Mm.
  Katherine Mcclain: research has shown that um it's a high interested uh in features. They are high high interested in feature. But they are more critical. Fo Yeah, critical.
  Theresa Brown: The
  Katherine Mcclain: So
  Theresa Brown: younger uh
  Katherine Mcclain: The younger audience.
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Katherine Mcclain: So we must um must design uh a control that really speaks to the people.
  Rose Jewell: Well what if we um I at I at home have a remote that has um the most familiar uh buttons on the top,
  Katherine Mcclain: Mm-hmm.
  Rose Jewell: and the bottom side of the front has a little clip, a f a little uh You can click away and then you have f much more functions that most people don't use but s some do do.
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm. I think uh the most functions uh underneath that uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Clip aren't
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: used much.
  Theresa Brown: No um
  Rose Jewell: Well but
  Theresa Brown: mm
  Rose Jewell: because
  Theresa Brown: usually
  Rose Jewell: you say they their features are important, they want
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah right.
  Rose Jewell: m um
  Theresa Brown: But
  Rose Jewell: a lot, but not
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah, but what kind of features?
  Theresa Brown: Yeah
  Vanessa Wright: Like
  Theresa Brown: I think
  Vanessa Wright: L_C_D_ screens
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah
  Vanessa Wright: and
  Theresa Brown: m
  Katherine Mcclain: but
  Theresa Brown: most
  Vanessa Wright: voice recognition.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: But I've
  Theresa Brown: Most
  Katherine Mcclain: Here, look
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: at these numbers. The newest features are, like I said, are uh L_C_D_ and uh speech uh control. Our audience, these people, are very like these uh features.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Katherine Mcclain: You see? So
  Theresa Brown: Uh.
  Katherine Mcclain: we must build in something, or they will to uh go to the concurrent.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: The
  Theresa Brown: Our
  Rose Jewell: Competitors.
  Theresa Brown: competitor.
  Katherine Mcclain: concurrent?
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Competitors, right. So, I do think we have to uh have some features.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Even though they
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: cost a little more.
  Rose Jewell: maybe w we could uh s On um some uh calculators you have lo those little little
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: L_C_D_
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: th that you can click on or something, or that you can click uh out uh of the remote. And if if that's gives you a little bit of sta status
  Katherine Mcclain: Like
  Rose Jewell: information.
  Katherine Mcclain: a ticker-tape.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Which programme you are l watching or something.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah, that's nice.
  Rose Jewell: Those kind of things, uh because you also have those uh those program recognition for your V_ V_C_R_s. And uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, right.
  Rose Jewell: well
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: if y
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah right.
  Rose Jewell: if your remote picks that up also, you they can display which programme you're currently watching.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah. So it it just signals the the different uh sig uh the different symbols on the screen
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: you have, uh because if you change to s channel two you have two on the screen and two on your on your um
  Rose Jewell: For example.
  Theresa Brown: on your L_C_D_ screen.
  Rose Jewell: It it could be such a little uh th that you can click in and out and you and you have it.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah, we should keep that simple too.
  Theresa Brown: But should
  Vanessa Wright: It
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: it uh really be
  Vanessa Wright: will
  Theresa Brown: uh clickable, uh
  Katherine Mcclain: No not
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: clickable.
  Rose Jewell: maybe.
  Vanessa Wright: No, it
  Katherine Mcclain: Nah,
  Theresa Brown: or
  Vanessa Wright: should
  Katherine Mcclain: no
  Vanessa Wright: be
  Katherine Mcclain: no no.
  Vanessa Wright: uh integrated. I
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: or just
  Katherine Mcclain: just
  Vanessa Wright: think
  Theresa Brown: integrate
  Katherine Mcclain: at
  Theresa Brown: inside to
  Katherine Mcclain: at
  Theresa Brown: try to
  Katherine Mcclain: the
  Theresa Brown: make
  Katherine Mcclain: top.
  Theresa Brown: it d more trendy.
  Katherine Mcclain: So when you s you sit like this you can can watch. I think
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: it
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Katherine Mcclain: should be
  Vanessa Wright: something
  Katherine Mcclain: at the top.
  Vanessa Wright: like on
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: um some radios in car. You Where it's, yeah, walking
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah right.
  Vanessa Wright: to
  Katherine Mcclain: It's
  Rose Jewell: R_D_S_s
  Katherine Mcclain: a
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: or
  Katherine Mcclain: ticker-tape
  Rose Jewell: something.
  Katherine Mcclain: idea.
  Theresa Brown: But that's of course uh a bit more uh expensive than uh the basic uh calculator design, with the scrolling text and that kind of thing.
  Vanessa Wright: Wa
  Katherine Mcclain: Well it's just
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: one
  Rose Jewell: I
  Katherine Mcclain: script.
  Rose Jewell: think it's you got
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: It just means it's a script that's uh keeps it uh rolling, and it's not uh That's five minutes off uh implementing
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Rose Jewell: time
  Katherine Mcclain: five
  Rose Jewell: I think
  Katherine Mcclain: minutes
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: of ja ja for programming.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: So I don't think that's the issue.
  Rose Jewell: No.
  Theresa Brown: Alright.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright, we go with the L_C_D_ screen?
  Rose Jewell: Uh well I think so, yes.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Katherine Mcclain: 'Kay.
  Rose Jewell: Um
  Vanessa Wright: well we we we still need to know how much that will cost.
  Katherine Mcclain: Right, I don't know if I can
  Rose Jewell: We're
  Katherine Mcclain: find
  Rose Jewell: g
  Katherine Mcclain: that,
  Rose Jewell: No but
  Katherine Mcclain: but
  Rose Jewell: we're we'll
  Vanessa Wright: Or
  Rose Jewell: have
  Vanessa Wright: maybe
  Rose Jewell: to look into
  Vanessa Wright: you will
  Rose Jewell: that.
  Vanessa Wright: get that information uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Next
  Rose Jewell: Um
  Katherine Mcclain: time. Yeah right.
  Rose Jewell: we can use
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: this board again, I think. Uh we can put some um decisions about um the controls we want, th the issue. Where is my presentation? Uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
  Rose Jewell: Uh
  Katherine Mcclain: We should have a general idea of how it's gonna look.
  Rose Jewell: Well I mean we're all here now, I think. These I've already given you. So we have to decide on the different remote control functions.
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: So we want to have a small L_C_D_ screen
  Katherine Mcclain: At the top.
  Rose Jewell: that's special.
  Theresa Brown: Shouldn't we start with the most important
  Vanessa Wright: At
  Theresa Brown: parts?
  Vanessa Wright: the top
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: The L_C_D_
  Vanessa Wright: or
  Theresa Brown: screen
  Vanessa Wright: at the bottom?
  Theresa Brown: alright
  Katherine Mcclain: I think
  Theresa Brown: but
  Katherine Mcclain: the top
  Theresa Brown: we should
  Katherine Mcclain: is more
  Theresa Brown: start
  Katherine Mcclain: uh
  Theresa Brown: with the power button? Uh
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: When
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Katherine Mcclain: you s
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Katherine Mcclain: How do you zap? You just sit in your chair?
  Theresa Brown: Huh?
  Katherine Mcclain: With
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Katherine Mcclain: the
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Katherine Mcclain: remote?
  Vanessa Wright: with with the L_C_D_ screen on the top it
  Rose Jewell: That
  Vanessa Wright: gets
  Rose Jewell: thing is
  Vanessa Wright: a bit
  Rose Jewell: terrible.
  Vanessa Wright: unnatural. 'Cause most remotes have some space left at the bottom.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah but that's where your hand ball might be.
  Rose Jewell: Uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Katherine Mcclain: I dunno.
  Vanessa Wright: no Mm.
  Theresa Brown: And then uh
  Katherine Mcclain: We'll draw two, and then we'll see uh
  Theresa Brown: Maybe we should uh centralise the discussion here. I dunno what uh you were
  Katherine Mcclain: No
  Theresa Brown: talking about but
  Katherine Mcclain: Um he
  Theresa Brown: we
  Katherine Mcclain: thinks
  Theresa Brown: are busy with something.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, right. He thinks it's better to put the L_C_D_ at the bottom, and I think it's better at the top.
  Theresa Brown: Uh-huh. Why
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: do you think it's better at the bottom?
  Vanessa Wright: Uh well because most uh remotes have um some space left at the bottom, and that way you can keep the shape recognisable for
  Katherine Mcclain: But
  Vanessa Wright: everybody.
  Katherine Mcclain: your
  Theresa Brown: But you
  Vanessa Wright: I
  Theresa Brown: just
  Vanessa Wright: c
  Theresa Brown: can put uh the the the the the whole interface a bit down, so that there's
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Well
  Theresa Brown: room
  Katherine Mcclain: The
  Vanessa Wright: I d
  Theresa Brown: for
  Vanessa Wright: I think
  Theresa Brown: the for
  Vanessa Wright: that's
  Katherine Mcclain: the
  Theresa Brown: the interface.
  Katherine Mcclain: ticker
  Vanessa Wright: that's
  Katherine Mcclain: The L_C_D_
  Vanessa Wright: ugly
  Katherine Mcclain: is
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Katherine Mcclain: like like small. It's it's wide. It's
  Theresa Brown: Uh-huh.
  Katherine Mcclain: not not high. But
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: And and
  Rose Jewell: I th
  Theresa Brown: we
  Rose Jewell: I
  Theresa Brown: can
  Vanessa Wright: I
  Rose Jewell: think
  Vanessa Wright: th
  Rose Jewell: Mike Mike has a point, because
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: um
  Vanessa Wright: Power
  Rose Jewell: when when
  Vanessa Wright: button
  Rose Jewell: uh when I
  Vanessa Wright: always
  Rose Jewell: use a remote
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: I l I hate the buttons but buttons at the at the
  Theresa Brown: Bottom.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: bottom. So and and
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Rose Jewell: I
  Vanessa Wright: y
  Rose Jewell: I like
  Vanessa Wright: you
  Rose Jewell: to
  Vanessa Wright: gotta
  Rose Jewell: use the
  Vanessa Wright: zap
  Rose Jewell: ones
  Vanessa Wright: like this or you want
  Rose Jewell: on the
  Vanessa Wright: to
  Rose Jewell: top. So
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: when
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: right.
  Rose Jewell: I
  Katherine Mcclain: But
  Rose Jewell: u when I have to have an L_C_D_
  Theresa Brown: Well
  Rose Jewell: s scr
  Katherine Mcclain: We're making
  Rose Jewell: window
  Theresa Brown: that's
  Katherine Mcclain: a remote
  Theresa Brown: a
  Katherine Mcclain: with
  Theresa Brown: bit exaggerated. Well, I agree with you.
  Katherine Mcclain: with a few functions you know.
  Theresa Brown: It's
  Katherine Mcclain: We
  Theresa Brown: it's also more recognisable. It looks more like a calculator to people, if you have the l the the
  Rose Jewell: Yes but we we we
  Theresa Brown: the
  Rose Jewell: we
  Theresa Brown: thing
  Rose Jewell: don't
  Theresa Brown: on top.
  Rose Jewell: want that.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah you don't want
  Rose Jewell: We don't
  Vanessa Wright: You want
  Rose Jewell: want
  Vanessa Wright: uh
  Rose Jewell: them to look
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: like a calculator.
  Vanessa Wright: it
  Rose Jewell: We
  Vanessa Wright: it
  Rose Jewell: want to
  Vanessa Wright: it
  Rose Jewell: look
  Vanessa Wright: must
  Rose Jewell: it
  Vanessa Wright: be a remote.
  Rose Jewell: like our original
  Theresa Brown: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: but
  Theresa Brown: w
  Rose Jewell: familiar
  Theresa Brown: well, but uh you
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: don't have to throw uh um important aspe
  Katherine Mcclain: High-tech.
  Theresa Brown: important aspect like familiarity
  Rose Jewell: Yea
  Theresa Brown: uh completely away, uh because
  Rose Jewell: Maybe
  Theresa Brown: I think
  Rose Jewell: a
  Theresa Brown: it's
  Rose Jewell: bic
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Rose Jewell: uh better uh white uh We White?
  Theresa Brown: I think
  Katherine Mcclain: Width.
  Theresa Brown: it's still important to
  Rose Jewell: Width.
  Theresa Brown: have it at the top,
  Rose Jewell: Uh
  Theresa Brown: because it's
  Rose Jewell: format
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Rose Jewell: yeah format? Line width? Width?
  Katherine Mcclain: Th
  Theresa Brown: it's more familiar
  Katherine Mcclain: that's not
  Theresa Brown: that
  Katherine Mcclain: a problem.
  Theresa Brown: way.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah?
  Katherine Mcclain: When I draw here it Oh. Huh?
  Rose Jewell: It's a bit off.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, it's off.
  Rose Jewell: Well.
  Theresa Brown: A little a little bit.
  Katherine Mcclain: It it needs to be calibrated
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: again.
  Rose Jewell: uh let's
  Katherine Mcclain: Well
  Rose Jewell: uh talk about that later uh
  Theresa Brown: Maybe you should another pen. Maybe that's uh better.
  Katherine Mcclain: Where?
  Theresa Brown: You e you only have
  Rose Jewell: It's
  Theresa Brown: one pen
  Rose Jewell: special
  Theresa Brown: for that
  Rose Jewell: pen.
  Theresa Brown: screen. Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright, we have to make a decision now, because
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: we don't have much time.
  Rose Jewell: No.
  Katherine Mcclain: Um I think we have uh a few functions, and we can put uh the L_C_D_ above it, and still have lots of room at the bottom,
  Theresa Brown: Yeah. I
  Katherine Mcclain: where you can put
  Theresa Brown: I
  Katherine Mcclain: your
  Theresa Brown: agree.
  Katherine Mcclain: hand.
  Rose Jewell: I think it should be at the button, bottom.
  Theresa Brown: Well
  Vanessa Wright: At the bottom?
  Theresa Brown: I'm
  Rose Jewell: Bottom.
  Theresa Brown: the I I'm the designer,
  Rose Jewell: The L_C_D_.
  Theresa Brown: so um
  Vanessa Wright: In a
  Katherine Mcclain: At
  Vanessa Wright: few
  Katherine Mcclain: the
  Vanessa Wright: minutes
  Katherine Mcclain: bot
  Vanessa Wright: Oh yeah, oh
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: yeah, I totally
  Katherine Mcclain: So
  Vanessa Wright: agree. Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: We are two uh V_S_ two.
  Rose Jewell: Well but uh what what if we we
  Vanessa Wright: He's
  Rose Jewell: first
  Vanessa Wright: the boss.
  Rose Jewell: decide the different functions,
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: and then
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: look at the
  Katherine Mcclain: Great.
  Rose Jewell: design.
  Theresa Brown: Uh we uh
  Rose Jewell: Because
  Theresa Brown: we
  Rose Jewell: we
  Theresa Brown: were
  Rose Jewell: have to
  Theresa Brown: busy
  Rose Jewell: decide
  Theresa Brown: with that.
  Rose Jewell: this.
  Theresa Brown: Uh yeah we should uh summon the
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: the different uh aspects of the thing. So, we have the power button.
  Katherine Mcclain: And moreover I think that you two should be uh come to consensus about the L_C_D_
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: s. It's uh your it's your job.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah of course. Uh it's uh.
  Vanessa Wright: No
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: it's
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: W
  Vanessa Wright: our
  Rose Jewell: we have
  Vanessa Wright: job.
  Theresa Brown: wh
  Rose Jewell: a power button. Guys?
  Theresa Brown: While you have to agree, I
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: can say
  Katherine Mcclain: right.
  Theresa Brown: it's like this and
  Rose Jewell: Guys?
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright,
  Theresa Brown: you must agree.
  Katherine Mcclain: let's
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: keep
  Rose Jewell: We
  Katherine Mcclain: it
  Rose Jewell: have
  Katherine Mcclain: central.
  Rose Jewell: a power button, setting buttons, L_C_D_ window,
  Vanessa Wright: The ten
  Rose Jewell: the number
  Vanessa Wright: numbers?
  Rose Jewell: buttons
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah?
  Theresa Brown: Channel, yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Uh
  Vanessa Wright: Volume?
  Theresa Brown: Volume control.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: Um
  Katherine Mcclain: Mm.
  Rose Jewell: Uh
  Theresa Brown: Well let's look at your uh design.
  Rose Jewell: the mute
  Theresa Brown: Uh
  Rose Jewell: button. I h love that one.
  Theresa Brown: Uh-huh.
  Vanessa Wright: I think we we should use something like this um to um The the channel up and channel down button?
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah, in circle, you know?
  Rose Jewell: Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Well
  Vanessa Wright: And
  Rose Jewell: that's
  Vanessa Wright: and
  Rose Jewell: that's
  Vanessa Wright: a
  Rose Jewell: also
  Vanessa Wright: volume
  Rose Jewell: design.
  Vanessa Wright: control also
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Vanessa Wright: in it.
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: Um
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: But
  Rose Jewell: h
  Theresa Brown: th
  Rose Jewell: ho
  Theresa Brown: th on this remote th these controls are for something else, a D_V_D_
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: player or
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: something.
  Vanessa Wright: Yes,
  Rose Jewell: They
  Theresa Brown: So
  Rose Jewell: are
  Vanessa Wright: as
  Rose Jewell: for some
  Vanessa Wright: I
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Vanessa Wright: already
  Rose Jewell: video
  Vanessa Wright: said,
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Vanessa Wright: we could drop some of these buttons.
  Katherine Mcclain: You should put that uh power button, channel and volume should have the most uh importance.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah. I think these should be in one big circle in the middle.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, but what he said about R_S_I_ was t kinda true. When when you uh put them all in the same place, the most used buttons, you're doing the same thing all the time, and that's just what R_S_I_'s all about. So it might be smarter to put them a little more
  Rose Jewell: Apart.
  Katherine Mcclain: away from each other.
  Rose Jewell: So people have to move their hand. And they get less uh complaints of R_S_I_.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah, it's it's also not good to completely stay in one position constantly with one hand. Y
  Rose Jewell: That's what I always do, because
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: all my i important buttons
  Theresa Brown: It's
  Rose Jewell: are the
  Theresa Brown: good
  Rose Jewell: same
  Theresa Brown: to move
  Rose Jewell: place.
  Theresa Brown: uh from time to time. Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Katherine Mcclain: Um
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Rose Jewell: Yes?
  Vanessa Wright: people don't like it when their buttons are all over the place. They
  Theresa Brown: No
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: but
  Rose Jewell: not
  Vanessa Wright: they need
  Theresa Brown: now
  Vanessa Wright: to
  Theresa Brown: y
  Vanessa Wright: be centred.
  Theresa Brown: W would we have to choose a
  Katherine Mcclain: Frequency
  Theresa Brown: way
  Katherine Mcclain: of
  Theresa Brown: in middle?
  Katherine Mcclain: uh button use.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: Um channels are uh most uh is most used within the hour.
  Rose Jewell: Uh-huh.
  Vanessa Wright: Volume
  Katherine Mcclain: You
  Vanessa Wright: hardly.
  Katherine Mcclain: can see. So the the channel uh channel buttons should
  Theresa Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Katherine Mcclain: be far far apart, I think, up and down.
  Vanessa Wright: No I don't think.
  Theresa Brown: Oh.
  Rose Jewell: Up
  Theresa Brown: Far
  Rose Jewell: and
  Theresa Brown: apart?
  Rose Jewell: down far apart from each other?
  Katherine Mcclain: You thinking uh about
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah but
  Katherine Mcclain: R_S_I_?
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Katherine Mcclain: Y
  Rose Jewell: not
  Katherine Mcclain: look
  Rose Jewell: too
  Katherine Mcclain: at
  Rose Jewell: much.
  Katherine Mcclain: uh look
  Vanessa Wright: No.
  Katherine Mcclain: at the frequency. Nei not too much, but
  Vanessa Wright: The other the other two uh frustrations are far more important. So
  Theresa Brown: I think you can have the two buttons of up and down close together, but you don't have uh have to have volume control
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: and
  Rose Jewell: for example
  Theresa Brown: and
  Rose Jewell: the power
  Theresa Brown: zapping button
  Rose Jewell: button,
  Theresa Brown: close together.
  Rose Jewell: you can
  Vanessa Wright: Well they are used four times
  Rose Jewell: If someone
  Vanessa Wright: an hour,
  Rose Jewell: is
  Vanessa Wright: so
  Rose Jewell: constantly z zapping, it's not going to miss, that it that the power button is not right beside it. Because I
  Katherine Mcclain: Nei
  Rose Jewell: have
  Katherine Mcclain: nei nei
  Rose Jewell: someone
  Katherine Mcclain: n I I
  Rose Jewell: But
  Katherine Mcclain: totally
  Rose Jewell: the buttons
  Katherine Mcclain: agree.
  Rose Jewell: is way. So
  Katherine Mcclain: But
  Rose Jewell: that one
  Katherine Mcclain: just
  Rose Jewell: can be put away.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah. Right. Yeah. I
  Rose Jewell: The power
  Katherine Mcclain: agree.
  Rose Jewell: button can uh be uh uh
  Vanessa Wright: Power bu button should be left at the top.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: And should and should be red.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Oh man, five minutes. Yeah, well
  Katherine Mcclain: Right,
  Rose Jewell: five minutes left.
  Katherine Mcclain: just make some decisions.
  Rose Jewell: Yep.
  Katherine Mcclain: The most important things we have to uh
  Rose Jewell: Um how are we going to do it
  Theresa Brown: C c
  Rose Jewell: with
  Theresa Brown: can you
  Rose Jewell: those
  Theresa Brown: make you
  Rose Jewell: numbers?
  Theresa Brown: make We can use uh the drawing board now, I think. Uh it it doesn't work well but But it it
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: would be
  Rose Jewell: I have
  Theresa Brown: pretty
  Rose Jewell: it here.
  Theresa Brown: pretty uh nice if we could just draw a simple
  Katherine Mcclain: I do
  Theresa Brown: thing.
  Rose Jewell: Yeah
  Katherine Mcclain: think you
  Rose Jewell: well
  Katherine Mcclain: have
  Rose Jewell: that's
  Katherine Mcclain: to
  Rose Jewell: going
  Katherine Mcclain: keep
  Rose Jewell: to take
  Katherine Mcclain: you
  Rose Jewell: too
  Katherine Mcclain: have
  Rose Jewell: too
  Katherine Mcclain: to
  Rose Jewell: much
  Katherine Mcclain: keep
  Rose Jewell: time.
  Katherine Mcclain: it central now. Just
  Vanessa Wright: Mm.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: uh
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: you decide that, you decide that,
  Theresa Brown: Mm.
  Katherine Mcclain: and
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: Alright.
  Katherine Mcclain: ready.
  Rose Jewell: Well the L_C_D_. Um you are Industrial, you are User Interface. So I think it's going to go to Mike.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: But you will have to make consensus with. Well
  Vanessa Wright: Well consensus,
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Vanessa Wright: um
  Rose Jewell: it's a bit
  Katherine Mcclain: Nei.
  Rose Jewell: hard,
  Vanessa Wright: We we
  Rose Jewell: because
  Vanessa Wright: can
  Rose Jewell: we
  Katherine Mcclain: We're
  Vanessa Wright: put
  Rose Jewell: are going
  Vanessa Wright: it in
  Rose Jewell: to
  Vanessa Wright: the
  Rose Jewell: be
  Vanessa Wright: middle,
  Katherine Mcclain: No
  Rose Jewell: uh individually.
  Vanessa Wright: so
  Rose Jewell: That's a bit
  Katherine Mcclain: We're
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: deciding now,
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: so Top or bottom?
  Theresa Brown: Well uh yeah I I still think it's it's quite important though to uh
  Rose Jewell: Yes it
  Theresa Brown: to
  Rose Jewell: is.
  Theresa Brown: have it at the top, so Yeah. You say familiarity isn't important but
  Rose Jewell: Well what if we're going to now decide about the functions, and the design comes into the next round?
  Katherine Mcclain: Okay.
  Rose Jewell: Plus the d th
  Theresa Brown: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: the design
  Theresa Brown: d
  Rose Jewell: round is still to come huh?
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: right. Okay.
  Vanessa Wright: Alright.
  Rose Jewell: Alright these functions.
  Theresa Brown: As we we we
  Rose Jewell: The number
  Theresa Brown: we agreed,
  Rose Jewell: f
  Theresa Brown: we do
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: have a L_C_D_.
  Rose Jewell: yes,
  Theresa Brown: So
  Rose Jewell: that's alright.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: that's
  Katherine Mcclain: okay.
  Rose Jewell: W the number function.
  Theresa Brown: that's enough. Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Are we going to uh do it like uh on Mike's screen with uh one button that says I'm going to do a t two number digital?
  Vanessa Wright: No.
  Rose Jewell: How do you want it to do then?
  Theresa Brown: There's
  Vanessa Wright: Well
  Theresa Brown: one two
  Vanessa Wright: just
  Theresa Brown: three four five
  Vanessa Wright: when
  Theresa Brown: six
  Vanessa Wright: you
  Rose Jewell: It
  Theresa Brown: six
  Rose Jewell: it has
  Vanessa Wright: push
  Theresa Brown: seven
  Rose Jewell: to
  Vanessa Wright: a
  Theresa Brown: eight
  Rose Jewell: r
  Theresa Brown: nine
  Rose Jewell: recognise
  Vanessa Wright: one one
  Theresa Brown: zero.
  Vanessa Wright: and
  Rose Jewell: one as there could still come more.
  Vanessa Wright: No, if you
  Theresa Brown: Oh,
  Vanessa Wright: On
  Theresa Brown: like that.
  Vanessa Wright: most
  Theresa Brown: Um
  Vanessa Wright: T_V_s if you uh press two numbers shortly after each other,
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: They'd recognise
  Vanessa Wright: d it Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: it. Th
  Rose Jewell: Alright
  Theresa Brown: that's
  Rose Jewell: so
  Theresa Brown: the
  Rose Jewell: no
  Theresa Brown: most
  Rose Jewell: button for
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: that.
  Theresa Brown: That that's
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: very easy.
  Katherine Mcclain: No.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Okay uh anyone any uh oth other functionalities of our uh remote?
  Theresa Brown: I think these are the the most important
  Katherine Mcclain: Do
  Theresa Brown: functions.
  Katherine Mcclain: you still have the pictures over there?
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: So
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, that's about it. You do need the uh multi Or did uh No, like this one. You do need them?
  Rose Jewell: No, we'd
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah,
  Rose Jewell: uh just said we
  Katherine Mcclain: I
  Rose Jewell: didn't
  Katherine Mcclain: know.
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: But are we Alright, alright
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Katherine Mcclain: uh
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Now okay.
  Rose Jewell: Um well because we can't integrate it with any other uh remotes, all those buttons on those pictures are uh irrelevant.
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Rose Jewell: So just for a television is that all we need?
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, it's most useable this way.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: basic function.
  Rose Jewell: Teletext is gone. So all those buttons that ar are to do with teletext Oh screen placing. We'll have uh those uh buttons about uh And uh the two important ones we're l f forgetting. Uh there's um screen. You can make it wider and
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: less wide. And the button that you can go to A_V_ for your video.
  Katherine Mcclain: Right. I do
  Theresa Brown: Oh yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: think we have to put that underneath a clip.
  Rose Jewell: Those two? But it's just two,
  Theresa Brown: Uh
  Rose Jewell: and we make
  Theresa Brown: just
  Rose Jewell: a clip?
  Theresa Brown: two just two under uh under
  Rose Jewell: Th that's
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Rose Jewell: a
  Vanessa Wright: We
  Rose Jewell: bit
  Vanessa Wright: we
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Vanessa Wright: can make
  Rose Jewell: waste.
  Vanessa Wright: make uh a little row of like four buttons down here.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah. Okay, right.
  Theresa Brown: I
  Rose Jewell: Or
  Theresa Brown: I think
  Rose Jewell: at
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Rose Jewell: the top. Your L_C_D_ screen is
  Vanessa Wright: Or
  Rose Jewell: going
  Vanessa Wright: at
  Rose Jewell: to go.
  Theresa Brown: But you you can
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah
  Theresa Brown: put
  Vanessa Wright: alright
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Vanessa Wright: then.
  Theresa Brown: two or three buttons under uh another section. Uh that's that's too complicated.
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: You can just put it somewhere They
  Rose Jewell: Yeah
  Theresa Brown: they aren't used much, not as much as those other, so you
  Vanessa Wright: Oh,
  Theresa Brown: can
  Vanessa Wright: they
  Theresa Brown: put
  Vanessa Wright: can
  Theresa Brown: it somewhere
  Vanessa Wright: be small or round
  Theresa Brown: Yeah s
  Vanessa Wright: like
  Theresa Brown: bit
  Vanessa Wright: buttons.
  Theresa Brown: smaller and s Well uh and and I think more at the bottom. Yeah. Yeah or at the top, yeah. What do you think uh those those buttons? Above
  Rose Jewell: Well I
  Theresa Brown: or
  Rose Jewell: think they
  Theresa Brown: down?
  Rose Jewell: should in an in an isolated part of the remote.
  Theresa Brown: And w where? Well we design it later. We have it, and we design
  Rose Jewell: Yes?
  Theresa Brown: later where everything
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Theresa Brown: goes. Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Yes. Well any other uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Well if you you
  Vanessa Wright: Why go
  Katherine Mcclain: take
  Vanessa Wright: to
  Katherine Mcclain: those
  Vanessa Wright: video?
  Katherine Mcclain: th If you
  Rose Jewell: Go to video, that's always on your remote control.
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, but
  Rose Jewell: To
  Katherine Mcclain: you can z
  Rose Jewell: A_V_
  Katherine Mcclain: you
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Katherine Mcclain: can
  Rose Jewell: to
  Katherine Mcclain: zap
  Rose Jewell: A_V_
  Katherine Mcclain: t
  Theresa Brown: The
  Katherine Mcclain: you
  Theresa Brown: the video
  Katherine Mcclain: can
  Rose Jewell: A_V_
  Theresa Brown: channel
  Katherine Mcclain: you
  Theresa Brown: uh?
  Katherine Mcclain: can zap
  Rose Jewell: A_V_.
  Katherine Mcclain: to the video channel
  Vanessa Wright: That's
  Katherine Mcclain: from
  Vanessa Wright: just
  Katherine Mcclain: zero
  Vanessa Wright: zero.
  Katherine Mcclain: to uh
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah.
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Theresa Brown: No no
  Rose Jewell: l
  Theresa Brown: not
  Rose Jewell: n no
  Theresa Brown: always.
  Rose Jewell: not at not at
  Theresa Brown: Ze
  Rose Jewell: my remote.
  Theresa Brown: yeah zero is a different channel than uh
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: the
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Theresa Brown: the
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Theresa Brown: video
  Vanessa Wright: you can
  Theresa Brown: channel.
  Vanessa Wright: can zap
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, but
  Vanessa Wright: down
  Katherine Mcclain: when you zap down zero
  Rose Jewell: Yes.
  Katherine Mcclain: you get to A_V_.
  Vanessa Wright: Yes, I
  Rose Jewell: I
  Vanessa Wright: think
  Rose Jewell: don't.
  Vanessa Wright: th
  Rose Jewell: I go to ninety-nine.
  Vanessa Wright: No,
  Katherine Mcclain: Ah uh
  Vanessa Wright: then
  Katherine Mcclain: well
  Vanessa Wright: you press ninety
  Katherine Mcclain: whatever,
  Vanessa Wright: nine. I think go to video is an
  Rose Jewell: Th
  Vanessa Wright: irrelevant
  Rose Jewell: that's the button
  Vanessa Wright: button,
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Vanessa Wright: but
  Rose Jewell: No.
  Theresa Brown: But it's easy to go If you are at uh at channel uh fifty five and you want to uh go immediately to the video channel, you do you have to push a to
  Rose Jewell: No
  Theresa Brown: to get
  Rose Jewell: you can
  Theresa Brown: below
  Rose Jewell: ch push
  Theresa Brown: zero.
  Rose Jewell: zero.
  Theresa Brown: It's more
  Rose Jewell: Yeah.
  Theresa Brown: easy to get to uh
  Rose Jewell: Yeah, I I
  Theresa Brown: where the
  Rose Jewell: think
  Theresa Brown: specific uh
  Rose Jewell: that
  Theresa Brown: video
  Rose Jewell: one
  Theresa Brown: channel
  Rose Jewell: button
  Theresa Brown: button.
  Rose Jewell: is uh I use it uh
  Katherine Mcclain: Yeah, but if we're choosing to uh incorporate these buttons, you have to have uh channel setting, if you wa if you have a new T_V_. You have
  Rose Jewell: Yeah?
  Katherine Mcclain: to set the channels. Right all th these uh different buttons you
  Rose Jewell: These
  Katherine Mcclain: have
  Rose Jewell: buttons,
  Katherine Mcclain: to
  Rose Jewell: I don't have buttons for channel setting uh especially on my remote.
  Katherine Mcclain: Ah,
  Theresa Brown: Yeah well
  Katherine Mcclain: I do.
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Rose Jewell: It's
  Theresa Brown: d
  Rose Jewell: it's
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah well
  Theresa Brown: different
  Rose Jewell: incorporated
  Theresa Brown: screen settings
  Rose Jewell: with
  Vanessa Wright: y you must
  Rose Jewell: p
  Vanessa Wright: have.
  Theresa Brown: a
  Rose Jewell: m
  Theresa Brown: Yeah, sk
  Rose Jewell: plus and down, uh
  Theresa Brown: Yeah y
  Rose Jewell: those
  Theresa Brown: you you you
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah you yeah
  Theresa Brown: you
  Vanessa Wright: you have
  Theresa Brown: have
  Vanessa Wright: one
  Theresa Brown: screen width.
  Vanessa Wright: one button from s set frequency o or something, and then with plus and min minus you can uh adjust
  Katherine Mcclain: Right.
  Vanessa Wright: the uh
  Katherine Mcclain: That's the only one we put uh in there.
  Rose Jewell: So we still have one uh four?
  Katherine Mcclain: For a screen uh fu uh
  Rose Jewell: Ch
  Katherine Mcclain: channel setting.
  Rose Jewell: ch
  Theresa Brown: Yeah to uh oh yeah of course to configure
  Katherine Mcclain: Programme,
  Theresa Brown: the
  Katherine Mcclain: right.
  Theresa Brown: programme
  Rose Jewell: Okay.
  Theresa Brown: the
  Rose Jewell: Oh the Okay button?
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Katherine Mcclain: Uh
  Rose Jewell: Oh you always have in the centre an Okay button,
  Theresa Brown: Yeah.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah, alright.
  Rose Jewell: for your menu. Menu button.
  Theresa Brown: You should Yeah. I think that's important. Uh
  Rose Jewell: Channel, setting, menu. We
  Theresa Brown: And and the settings
  Rose Jewell: have
  Theresa Brown: to change the brightness
  Rose Jewell: to go.
  Theresa Brown: the settings to change the brightness and the contrast.
  Rose Jewell: Okay.
  Theresa Brown: Channel, yeah.
  Rose Jewell: So um
  Theresa Brown: Chief?
  Rose Jewell: Save.
  Theresa Brown: Chief?
  Rose Jewell: Yes see.
  Theresa Brown: Th the menu menu button is also important. Then
  Rose Jewell: Yes
  Theresa Brown: you can
  Rose Jewell: I have
  Theresa Brown: uh
  Rose Jewell: put it in.
  Theresa Brown: Where? I don't see it.
  Rose Jewell: Here.
  Theresa Brown: Oh Menu, alright.
  Vanessa Wright: I think things like uh contrast and brightness should be um
  Theresa Brown: In the menu.
  Vanessa Wright: in the menu,
  Theresa Brown: And
  Vanessa Wright: yeah.
  Theresa Brown: you can uh then adjust it with the zapping buttons or something.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah, the
  Theresa Brown: Because uh
  Rose Jewell: Alright.
  Theresa Brown: the zapping buttons aren't
  Vanessa Wright: Or
  Theresa Brown: used
  Vanessa Wright: the volume
  Theresa Brown: then if you
  Vanessa Wright: or
  Theresa Brown: are in
  Vanessa Wright: something
  Theresa Brown: the menu.
  Vanessa Wright: like
  Rose Jewell: Guys?
  Vanessa Wright: that.
  Theresa Brown: Yeah. Or
  Rose Jewell: We're
  Theresa Brown: the
  Rose Jewell: going
  Theresa Brown: volume,
  Rose Jewell: to
  Theresa Brown: yeah.
  Rose Jewell: uh go to our uh rooms, and uh we'll
  Vanessa Wright: Your pen.
  Rose Jewell: have to decide s
  Katherine Mcclain: Ah.
  Rose Jewell: things on our own I think.
  Katherine Mcclain: Great.
  Rose Jewell: So
  Theresa Brown: Yes chief.
  Katherine Mcclain: Alright.
  Vanessa Wright: I thought
  Rose Jewell: Well
  Vanessa Wright: we'd
  Rose Jewell: see
  Vanessa Wright: uh
  Rose Jewell: you
  Vanessa Wright: lunch
  Theresa Brown: Yeah
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Theresa Brown: this
  Rose Jewell: W w
  Theresa Brown: is
  Vanessa Wright: uh
  Rose Jewell: we
  Vanessa Wright: right
  Rose Jewell: have lunchtime,
  Vanessa Wright: now,
  Theresa Brown: this
  Vanessa Wright: or
  Theresa Brown: is your
  Vanessa Wright: not?
  Theresa Brown: thing.
  Rose Jewell: by the way, now
  Katherine Mcclain: Ah.
  Vanessa Wright: Yeah,
  Rose Jewell: uh so
  Katherine Mcclain: Okay.
  Vanessa Wright: lunch
  Rose Jewell: uh
  Vanessa Wright: break.
  Theresa Brown: I am hungry.
  Rose Jewell: Lunch.
  Katherine Mcclain: Get into my belly.
  Rose Jewell: Ah. We didn't exactly do everything
  Theresa Brown: See you later mate.
  Rose Jewell: but So
Updated Content: There are some new requirements for the project: the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, as it is dated, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. The target group will be people below 30. It transpires that customers are willing to pay more for fancier looking remotes, especially if they include LCD screens and speech recognition. Functions like zapping are very prevalent, as well as complaints about remotes being difficult to learn and easy to lose. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. The team agreed to follow a user-centred approach and simplify the design by somehow minimising the number of buttons. They plan to include an LCD screen to display relevant information. Other functions are served by push buttons: OK, menu, screen sizing, AV, settings buttons, mute, digits 1-9, power, volume control, channel up/down with the last three types being prominent on the device. The exact design and placement of the components will be decided in the next meeting.