Extracted Content: Harvey Henry: Okay um, welcome to our detailed design meeting I'm. pretty excited. Let's start it's approximately fifteen forty or something like that. Okay um the agenda we're gonna do an opening and then um I'll talk about the minutes from the last meeting, what we d discussed um, then we'll have the prototype presentation and a look at the evaluation criteria. We'll look at the finances and finally a do a production evaluation and close. So, starting off with the um last the last one, oh I don't have it here um, but we talked about energy, we're gonna use a kinetic battery um, we want to use a simple chip, because we're not gonna need a a shuffle um, we're gonna need a scroll um, we're choosing a latex case w in fruity colours that's curved and um we're using push buttons uh with a supplement of an on-screen menu. And it sounded like we had set um like eight or nine buttons, including five pre-set channels. Okay? Let's do the look and feel design presentation first.
  Larry Maldanado: Right, do you wanna start?
  Colin Davis: Right, well we made three different prototypes and I guess we'll start with with this one. Um we have our colours not are not fixed, but this is the general shape. Um it's you hold it sort of either like like this in your left hand or you switch it over and uh it's easily adaptable to either hand. You can push the buttons with your thumb like a mobile phone, or you can push them with your index finger of your other hand, or even mean there's whole variety, you can hold it like this and press it with your same index finger. Uh we have the on off button at the tip, very visible, very big. We have our up and down buttons, which are also gonna be our channel selectors, and we have our little menu button here. If you push if you're just pushing these normally, they're the menu buttons, if uh the volume buttons rather. If you press select once, they become channel changing buttons. If we press select three times, the menu with the other features and pro possibly also with your T_V_ channel choices shows up, and you have your five presets down here. Um if people wanna grab hold of that, see how it feels in your hand. That's our number one prototype. Um do you wanna present the potato,
  Harvey Henry: like a little
  Colin Davis: or
  Harvey Henry: lightning
  Colin Davis: shall I
  Larry Maldanado: Okay,
  Colin Davis: present
  Harvey Henry: in it.
  Colin Davis: the Martian?
  Larry Maldanado: um
  Harvey Henry: The little lightning bolt in it,
  Larry Maldanado: What
  Harvey Henry: very cute.
  Larry Maldanado: We call that one
  Jay Dipietro: I could
  Larry Maldanado: the rhombus, uh
  Harvey Henry: The v the rhombus
  Larry Maldanado: the rhombus.
  Colin Davis: That's
  Harvey Henry: rhombus?
  Colin Davis: the rhombus, yep.
  Larry Maldanado: Um this one is known as the potato, uh it's it's a how can I present it? It's an ergonomic shape, so it it fits in your hand nicely. Um it's designed to be used either in your left hand or or in your right hand. Um I've gone here just for just for four buttons on this one. Um two here for adjusting. So you've got volume up and volume down on the other side here. Um the red ones are for uh changing channels, channel up and channel down and that's um moves between your favourite channels that you've selected. Uh this middle button here brings up the on-screen menu and when you're working in the on-screen menu you use the other four buttons to navigate around the menu system and the middle button uh to select and that's basically it, that's the potato.
  Harvey Henry: Um on, off?
  Larry Maldanado: Uh that would be one of your channels, basically, so
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Larry Maldanado: like channel zero would be t to switch
  Harvey Henry: Yeah we turn
  Larry Maldanado: switch
  Harvey Henry: it off.
  Larry Maldanado: the machine off, yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: Could the middle button of the on-screen menu function as a power button?
  Larry Maldanado: Um not really, it would make it hard to turn
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Larry Maldanado: the machine off, to turn your T_V_ off.
  Colin Davis: If you pressed and held it maybe.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah
  Jay Dipietro: If you like
  Larry Maldanado: yeah,
  Jay Dipietro: held
  Larry Maldanado: that
  Jay Dipietro: it down,
  Larry Maldanado: that'd be one
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: way of doing it, yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: that would be
  Larry Maldanado: That'd
  Jay Dipietro: on
  Larry Maldanado: work,
  Colin Davis: On
  Jay Dipietro: off.
  Colin Davis: off, that's
  Larry Maldanado: yeah.
  Colin Davis: a possibility, yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Colin Davis: And then finally we have um the Martian or the pear, either way. Um it's a bit different, just a little bit more of a creative feel. Uh you have the on off toggle stem on the top. We have the five preset seeds. And then you have on the sides to make it a little bit more three-dimensional, you have your channel changing, volume changing buttons and your menu button right here in the middle. So, that's for your consideration as well,
  Larry Maldanado: Let's pass.
  Colin Davis: plus it's an interesting talking point to have standing up. We figured it could stand up like this on your table,
  Harvey Henry: Uh-huh.
  Colin Davis: if you wanted it to, if I made the bot the bottom flat.
  Jay Dipietro: Sorry, what's the yellow one in the middle, I forgot.
  Colin Davis: Uh the menu select button.
  Harvey Henry: Very interesting. I
  Larry Maldanado: So that's
  Harvey Henry: think that one's my favourite.
  Larry Maldanado: So that's our three prototypes. Um basically, in terms of making decisions, what we'd need to do is first of all decide on a form uh which of the three different shapes we want, then decide what kind of button layout we want, how many buttons, and then to choose what colours we want to make the buttons and if we wanna put any text on the device, like label on the buttons or put a brand name or or
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Larry Maldanado: a logo on it or whatever.
  Colin Davis: We were we were thinking that normally we'd go for fruity colours, but maybe we're also thinking that your sort of middle aged man, for an example customer, might not want a fruity coloured remote, so m maybe we'd have one version that's a bit toned down,
  Harvey Henry: Mm 'kay.
  Colin Davis: maybe with with less contrasts on it. Yeah,
  Larry Maldanado: Would
  Colin Davis: something still a little bright to make it
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah,
  Colin Davis: hard to lose, but
  Larry Maldanado: but we don't want it to look like a kids' toy.
  Colin Davis: yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Now that was one thing that we brought up over email. I don't know if you picked up your email,
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: but um the f the um feature that we considered for it not getting lost.
  Colin Davis: Right. Well we were we were talking about that a little bit when we got that email and we think that each of these are so distinctive, that it it's not just like another piece of technology around your house. It's gonna be somewhere that it can be seen.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: So we're we're not thinking that it's gonna be as critical
  Jay Dipietro: But if it's like under
  Colin Davis: to have
  Jay Dipietro: covers
  Colin Davis: the loss
  Jay Dipietro: or like in a couch you still
  Harvey Henry: It's
  Jay Dipietro: can't
  Harvey Henry: really
  Jay Dipietro: see it.
  Harvey Henry: Would it be very difficult to um just have an external device that like I dunno, you tape to your to your T_V_ um that when you press it you ha a little light beep goes off? Do you think that would be conceptually possible?
  Larry Maldanado: I
  Colin Davis: I think
  Larry Maldanado: think it would be difficult technologically,
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Larry Maldanado: because if your if your remote's lost it's probably under the settee and in that case you can't you can't send an infrared sing signal to it to
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Larry Maldanado: find it, s so it's I'm not quite sure
  Harvey Henry: That's true,
  Larry Maldanado: how it
  Harvey Henry: mm
  Larry Maldanado: would work
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: and
  Harvey Henry: 'kay.
  Larry Maldanado: then I wonder if it's if it's more just a gimmick then anything else. Uh I mean ho how many times do you really, seriously lose your remote control and would would a device like that actually help you to find it?
  Colin Davis: There might be something that you can do in the circuit board and the chip to make it make a noise or something, but it would take a lot more development
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: than we have this afternoon.
  Harvey Henry: Okay, that's a fair evaluation. Getting lost. Um we so we do we've decided not to worry about that for now. Okay 'cause well, the designs are very bright, so you're right, they're gonna stick out, but um
  Colin Davis: So d do people have a preference as far as feel and functionality? Um.
  Jay Dipietro: I feel like this is simil or it's sort of what already exists so if we're trying to think of something sort of like new and fun, even though this what you're init I'm initially drawn to, just 'cause it's like comfortable and like not different. I sort of like this one, like I I don't know why, it just it's like small but still sort of like cute looking, I dunno. But I also like the b the side buttons on that one,
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: like I think that's kind of neat. But I dunno how much any of this has to do with the fashionable, sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on.
  Harvey Henry: Could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off? So then w we wouldn't
  Colin Davis: Mm
  Jay Dipietro: Ah,
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah,
  Harvey Henry: have to
  Larry Maldanado: it's
  Harvey Henry: have like
  Larry Maldanado: possible,
  Harvey Henry: a dual
  Colin Davis: yeah,
  Harvey Henry: function?
  Colin Davis: that's
  Jay Dipietro: there we
  Larry Maldanado: yeah,
  Jay Dipietro: go.
  Colin Davis: good, that's good.
  Larry Maldanado: yeah.
  Colin Davis: Here, stick it on.
  Larry Maldanado: Put an extra the
  Harvey Henry: Sure.
  Larry Maldanado: button on.
  Harvey Henry: Um uh why don't we do a product evaluation using your criteria, if you've
  Jay Dipietro: Well
  Harvey Henry: developed
  Jay Dipietro: do we w
  Harvey Henry: some?
  Jay Dipietro: like I think we're supposed to have one that we do it for.
  Harvey Henry: Oh okay. Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: That was
  Colin Davis: So where
  Jay Dipietro: I was a little vague on what exactly I'm supposed to do, but let Jay Dipietro I have to like write something on
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: the whiteboard, so.
  Harvey Henry: Do you need this or just write on the white
  Jay Dipietro: No,
  Harvey Henry: board?
  Jay Dipietro: I actually don't have like a PowerPointy thing,
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: 'cause
  Colin Davis: Right.
  Jay Dipietro: I think it would be redundant.
  Colin Davis: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: I dunno.
  Harvey Henry: It's kind of like uh
  Colin Davis: Ooh.
  Harvey Henry: like a joystick kind of thing, you know, kinda push it.
  Larry Maldanado: Cool.
  Colin Davis: Hey.
  Harvey Henry: 'Kay. Maybe a little smaller than that.
  Colin Davis: No, I kinda like it. That's hard to miss.
  Larry Maldanado: It makes look more fruity as well.
  Harvey Henry: Oh it does, it's kind of like
  Larry Maldanado: It's like a deformed foot, I dunno.
  Harvey Henry: There it could have a stem like that, 'cause I do l kind of like the stem.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: Like
  Harvey Henry: Yeah. It almost helps you ge keep a grip too, 'cause it goes
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: in between
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: fingers.
  Colin Davis: Interesting.
  Harvey Henry: I like this one.
  Colin Davis: Okay, is that
  Harvey Henry: Variety
  Colin Davis: where people
  Harvey Henry: of colours
  Colin Davis: are leaning
  Harvey Henry: are
  Colin Davis: then,
  Harvey Henry: nice.
  Colin Davis: the potato? I like the idea
  Harvey Henry: I think
  Colin Davis: of the
  Harvey Henry: I'm leaning towards the potato.
  Colin Davis: I mean that's really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down, that one.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm. I am worried about like um using a menu. Um in that like i withing menus there are submenus,
  Colin Davis: Hmm.
  Harvey Henry: and so how do you
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: get back to the main menu?
  Colin Davis: Well that on the iPod, for example, you just every time you wanna go back you hit the menu button again and it brings you back one level.
  Harvey Henry: But that has a menu button separate from a select button, whereas if
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: this one's both the
  Colin Davis: Good
  Harvey Henry: menu
  Colin Davis: point.
  Harvey Henry: and the select button?
  Larry Maldanado: This is, it's the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices.
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Larry Maldanado: You find the choice that you want and you press uh you press the right button uh.
  Harvey Henry: Could these
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: be used for going to
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah,
  Harvey Henry: submenus
  Larry Maldanado: so they're used
  Harvey Henry: or
  Larry Maldanado: for going into and
  Colin Davis: Maybe
  Larry Maldanado: out of your submenus,
  Colin Davis: yeah,
  Larry Maldanado: yeah.
  Colin Davis: maybe it can
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Colin Davis: be one of those, if you press down and hold for two seconds, then it brings you back one level or something.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still, mm 'kay.
  Jay Dipietro: Okay, so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities, the yellowy one is that
  Colin Davis: The potato? Are we leaning
  Larry Maldanado: Potato.
  Colin Davis: towards the potato?
  Harvey Henry: I think so.
  Jay Dipietro: Okay, well we can obviously change it after we go through each different
  Colin Davis: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: one. So basically what we need to do is some of the things that we've talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does
  Colin Davis: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: conform to the things that we said it was going to. So what we sort of wanna do is that we each need to separately rank each of the following things and then I'll tabulate an average just to make sure
  Colin Davis: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: that it does meet that. So we'll just go through them one at a time and we'll just go around and each of you can tell Jay Dipietro on a scale of one to seven with one being really extremely true and seven being not true at all, or false, if the remote that we've created conforms to the following criteria. So we can do this one first. First we wanna know if it meets the fancy look and feel um objective. So like in my opinion the for now at least, the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so I'm gonna say it's like a three. That's just my opinion.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: What does each of you
  Harvey Henry: I I kind of think it's it's unique enough that I'd give it a one or a two.
  Jay Dipietro: Okay, well give it a number,
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: sorry.
  Harvey Henry: I will give it a one.
  Colin Davis: Um I dunno if it's it's creative. I dunno if fancy is the word I would use. I dunno if any of them are fancy in I'd say two, because
  Jay Dipietro: Okay.
  Colin Davis: c unique.
  Jay Dipietro: And
  Larry Maldanado: I'll go for two.
  Jay Dipietro: two, awesome. Alright, and same sort of scale for functionality, is it functional? I think it's extremely functional, I'm gonna give it a one.
  Colin Davis: Yeah, one.
  Jay Dipietro: One?
  Larry Maldanado: I think it's it's functional, it's also pretty basic, so I'll give it a two.
  Jay Dipietro: Okay.
  Harvey Henry: Um functional. I think it'll get everything done, I think it might be a little confusing at first, um,
  Jay Dipietro: Okay. Well there's some
  Harvey Henry: I
  Jay Dipietro: other
  Harvey Henry: don't know if that's
  Jay Dipietro: ones,
  Harvey Henry: gonna
  Jay Dipietro: I
  Harvey Henry: be
  Jay Dipietro: will
  Harvey Henry: a later
  Jay Dipietro: address
  Harvey Henry: one.
  Jay Dipietro: that, yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Okay, then I'm gonna give it a two.
  Jay Dipietro: Awesome, okay. Um we wanna know next if it's technologically innovative.
  Harvey Henry: Did you give a functional?
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah, she said it was one.
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: Um is it technologically innovative? Mm. Not really, I mean not so much, 'cause we we don't have the L_C_D_ screen, we don't have fancy chip. Other than what it looks like, I dunno if it's
  Harvey Henry: Well, the kinetic
  Jay Dipietro: really
  Harvey Henry: battery.
  Colin Davis: In the battery,
  Jay Dipietro: I
  Colin Davis: that's it.
  Jay Dipietro: kinetic battery is a big one, so.
  Colin Davis: How many people
  Jay Dipietro: Mm.
  Colin Davis: would notice that, though?
  Jay Dipietro: But it
  Harvey Henry: But
  Jay Dipietro: but
  Harvey Henry: they'll notice
  Jay Dipietro: we know
  Harvey Henry: it after
  Jay Dipietro: it's there.
  Harvey Henry: like a year, they'll be like hey, I have never changed the battery.
  Jay Dipietro: And if it's made of like latex, that whole
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: idea, that's pretty cool. I'll
  Harvey Henry: Just
  Jay Dipietro: give it
  Harvey Henry: the
  Jay Dipietro: a
  Harvey Henry: material.
  Jay Dipietro: three. 'Cause it we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really
  Colin Davis: Yeah. I I would say that it's Yeah, like fancy versus creative it's it's different. But does that equal innovative? I dunno. I'll give it a three.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright. Everyone else?
  Larry Maldanado: I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique, I mean it's it's just it is just pushbuttons um, so I I'd give it a four.
  Harvey Henry: Think I'm gonna go with the four as well.
  Jay Dipietro: Mm 'kay.
  Harvey Henry: I really like that kinetic battery though.
  Jay Dipietro: Next, is it easy to use? Just so you know, easy to learn will be separate,
  Harvey Henry: Mm
  Jay Dipietro: so don't
  Harvey Henry: 'kay.
  Colin Davis: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: overlap them. I think it's really easy to use. I'll give it a two.
  Colin Davis: Um I'll give it a one. Pretty hard to mess up.
  Larry Maldanado: I'll say one.
  Harvey Henry: Uh let's say two.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright. Um we next wanna see if it has a spongy quality and if indeed it's made of latex or rubber I it's spongy all the way.
  Harvey Henry: Give it a one.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: I wonder if it bounces when you drop it.
  Colin Davis: Ooh,
  Jay Dipietro: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: that you couldn't it'd be harder to break, harder to lose.
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: 'Cause there would be less impact maybe,
  Jay Dipietro: Iain, what
  Colin Davis: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: do you give
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah
  Jay Dipietro: it?
  Larry Maldanado: I'd I'd give it a one.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright and the next is, does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables?
  Larry Maldanado: Uh um.
  Jay Dipietro: Well, is it gonna be yellow?
  Colin Davis: It it might be, 'cause that's our corporate colour, isn't it?
  Harvey Henry: That's right, yeah, corporate
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: colour, we didn't keep that in
  Colin Davis: We might
  Harvey Henry: um
  Colin Davis: wanna keep it yellow.
  Harvey Henry: well if we I know it would make it a little less c a little more confusing, but if we had all the buttons in black, and a design in and the outside in yellow, that'd be our corporate one and we could also have alternative colours, one a more conservative one, one
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah,
  Harvey Henry: that's
  Jay Dipietro: but if
  Harvey Henry: more
  Jay Dipietro: you had
  Harvey Henry: fruity.
  Jay Dipietro: like a silvery kind of white or something.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah,
  Harvey Henry: Um and
  Colin Davis: If
  Harvey Henry: can
  Colin Davis: we
  Harvey Henry: we
  Colin Davis: had
  Harvey Henry: have
  Colin Davis: a yellow
  Harvey Henry: like an R_R_ inscribed on the bottom or something?
  Colin Davis: Sure.
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: Oh,
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: yeah. Alright, so
  Harvey Henry: Fruity,
  Colin Davis: So,
  Jay Dipietro: I think it
  Harvey Henry: so
  Jay Dipietro: it's
  Harvey Henry: fruity.
  Colin Davis: so I think
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: it's pretty
  Harvey Henry: I
  Colin Davis: fruity.
  Harvey Henry: think i it's kind of mangoey too.
  Colin Davis: Oh,
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: Mangoey
  Colin Davis: mango
  Jay Dipietro: I
  Larry Maldanado: is
  Jay Dipietro: okay,
  Larry Maldanado: better,
  Harvey Henry: Yes.
  Larry Maldanado: yeah.
  Colin Davis: that
  Jay Dipietro: I'm giving
  Larry Maldanado: I
  Jay Dipietro: it a one
  Colin Davis: that
  Jay Dipietro: the mango
  Larry Maldanado: like mangoes.
  Jay Dipietro: put Jay Dipietro over.
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Colin Davis: That's a much more trendy than a potato
  Jay Dipietro: What are what's everyone's numbers?
  Colin Davis: one.
  Larry Maldanado: Uh two.
  Harvey Henry: One.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright um, and does the design match the appropriate behaviour? Remember earlier we discussed that people don't use a lot of buttons, that they use the channel flipping and the volume the most. I think we really took that into account a lot, so I'm gonna give it a one.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: Yeah, Jay Dipietro too.
  Larry Maldanado: Uh one.
  Jay Dipietro: Did you say one, Rose?
  Harvey Henry: Yes.
  Jay Dipietro: Okay um, also we talked earlier about R_S_I_ and wanting to prevent um any sort of like Carpal Tunnely kind of thing. Do we think that the latex sort of grip appropriately takes that into account? I think I'll give it a two, matter what you do, something
  Harvey Henry: It's gonna
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: is
  Harvey Henry: be
  Jay Dipietro: gonna
  Harvey Henry: hard.
  Jay Dipietro: happen.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah, yeah.
  Harvey Henry: And if it's repetitive movement it is gonna be only four buttons that you're constantly pushing, but um
  Jay Dipietro: Um um worth the risk,
  Harvey Henry: I
  Jay Dipietro: I
  Harvey Henry: like
  Jay Dipietro: think.
  Harvey Henry: how it fits in the hand though
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: I'd go with a two.
  Colin Davis: I'll I'll say two as well. Because older people that aren't used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: 'Kay.
  Colin Davis: at first, but
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah I'll I'll say two.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright, awesome. And the ease of learning it. I know you were saying that you're a little bit nervous about that, I dunno. It sort of reminds Jay Dipietro of the iPod. I just got mine, I still haven't read the instruction book and I'm doing okay,
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: so and I'm not good at learning technology. So I'll give it a two.
  Colin Davis: The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing, but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out, but you'll have it afterwards.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess.
  Larry Maldanado: I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn, because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are and
  Colin Davis: Oh,
  Larry Maldanado: that
  Colin Davis: good
  Larry Maldanado: could
  Colin Davis: point.
  Larry Maldanado: take a bit of learning at first,
  Jay Dipietro: Mm-hmm.
  Larry Maldanado: but once you've, yeah once you'd learned how to use it, I think it is a lot easier. So I'd I'd give it a four.
  Jay Dipietro: Okay.
  Harvey Henry: I think I'd give it a four too. It's a pretty high learning curve, it'll be easy once you've done it, but
  Jay Dipietro: Mm-hmm.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright, um also earlier we had something about losing it and so now we're not addressing that at all, so
  Harvey Henry: We we I think we can kind of say we addressed it with colour,
  Jay Dipietro: Okay, so
  Harvey Henry: but
  Jay Dipietro: in terms of not losing it, do you think that on a scale of one to seven, how easy or hard is it to lose? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four, 'cause I think that you can still if it's in between somewhere where you can't see it, you're kind of not gonna find it, but
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: anywhere
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: else it's gonna stand out.
  Colin Davis: Um I'd say I'd give it uh a three, I guess it depends on how tidy you are normally.
  Harvey Henry: Mm I'd give it a four.
  Larry Maldanado: Um I'll give it a five 'cause i it would be easy to lose something like
  Harvey Henry: Small
  Larry Maldanado: that,
  Harvey Henry: too.
  Larry Maldanado: yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright, we also said simplicity, how w how well does it address just being simple?
  Colin Davis: Simple to use or simple in design? Do you
  Jay Dipietro: I
  Colin Davis: know?
  Jay Dipietro: think overall, 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion, so those are the next two things we're gonna look at. Separate from fancy, like
  Colin Davis: Right.
  Jay Dipietro: that sort of thing. Um it like wants to be simple but it's not like totally totally simple, so I'm gonna give it a two.
  Colin Davis: I'm give it a three I guess.
  Larry Maldanado: I'll give it a two.
  Harvey Henry: Three.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright, and fashionable?
  Harvey Henry: It's totally fashionable.
  Jay Dipietro: It's
  Harvey Henry: I'd
  Jay Dipietro: hot,
  Harvey Henry: give it a one.
  Jay Dipietro: I mean it's a mango, come on.
  Harvey Henry: Mango.
  Jay Dipietro: I mean how fashionable can you make a remote? I think it's bringing technology and fashion together real really well.
  Colin Davis: I dunno. I don't think it's quite as fashionable as my robot remote
  Harvey Henry: I do like uh the little
  Colin Davis: or
  Harvey Henry: Martian
  Colin Davis: alien
  Harvey Henry: one.
  Colin Davis: or whatever he was.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah, the toggle on off switch, it's really appealing. Number.
  Colin Davis: Um two.
  Larry Maldanado: Three.
  Harvey Henry: One.
  Jay Dipietro: And does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal, that whole thing? Just that it would se serve our audience. I don't see why not.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm. I think as long if we offer in a in at least three different colour arrangements. Um
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: yeah,
  Jay Dipietro: Mm-hmm.
  Harvey Henry: that's good. So I'll give it a a two.
  Colin Davis: Yeah, I'll say two.
  Jay Dipietro: Alright, did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we didn't talk about?
  Harvey Henry: Well um we didn't we didn't address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo, so let's let's make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colours concepts is
  Colin Davis: Shall
  Harvey Henry: corporate
  Colin Davis: we uh
  Harvey Henry: and has an R_R_ on it.
  Colin Davis: Well I think all of them
  Harvey Henry: All
  Colin Davis: should
  Harvey Henry: of them
  Colin Davis: have
  Harvey Henry: should
  Colin Davis: an
  Harvey Henry: have
  Colin Davis: R_R_.
  Harvey Henry: R_R_, yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: And so we're gonna do that, so it will address
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: it,
  Harvey Henry: Mm
  Jay Dipietro: fine.
  Harvey Henry: 'kay.
  Jay Dipietro: Okay. That's
  Harvey Henry: Lovely.
  Jay Dipietro: Jay Dipietro.
  Harvey Henry: Okay, now we're gonna look at finances. Um I have an Excel sheet that we're actually gonna calculate the cost um, so let Jay Dipietro exit out of this first. Okay um
  Jay Dipietro: Whoa.
  Colin Davis: Oh my.
  Harvey Henry: I know. Let Jay Dipietro one more space. Gonna zoom in real quick. Okay. Hand dynamo. We're using
  Colin Davis: Uh
  Harvey Henry: kinetic
  Colin Davis: we're
  Harvey Henry: battery,
  Colin Davis: n using
  Harvey Henry: right?
  Colin Davis: kinetic, yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Um and we're having one per
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: One, okay. Um electronics.
  Colin Davis: Single. Simple,
  Harvey Henry: Simple.
  Jay Dipietro: Simple.
  Colin Davis: simple rather.
  Harvey Henry: Mm 'kay. Um the case.
  Colin Davis: Uh uh uh
  Larry Maldanado: Guess
  Colin Davis: double-curved.
  Larry Maldanado: it's double-curved. It is pretty curvy.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: It's very curvy, so okay.
  Colin Davis: Yeah I never did get a picture of those so I don't really know. Our case material supplements oops, we just skipped
  Jay Dipietro: Well
  Colin Davis: by
  Jay Dipietro: don't
  Colin Davis: them.
  Jay Dipietro: we need plastic, and
  Colin Davis: No, we we the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed.
  Jay Dipietro: Provided,
  Colin Davis: The
  Jay Dipietro: okay.
  Colin Davis: supplement is
  Harvey Henry: The wood?
  Colin Davis: Oh, I guess it was rubber rather
  Harvey Henry: I mean
  Colin Davis: than
  Jay Dipietro: It was
  Harvey Henry: the
  Jay Dipietro: rubber
  Colin Davis: latex.
  Harvey Henry: rubber.
  Jay Dipietro: and special colour, right?
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm, okay.
  Jay Dipietro: Do we have more than one special colour?
  Harvey Henry: Yeah,
  Colin Davis: Uh
  Harvey Henry: we're using
  Colin Davis: well
  Harvey Henry: we're gonna
  Larry Maldanado: Special colours,
  Harvey Henry: need at least
  Larry Maldanado: isn't
  Harvey Henry: two
  Larry Maldanado: it?
  Harvey Henry: special colours. Um.
  Colin Davis: I don't know what
  Jay Dipietro: Per
  Colin Davis: the se the basic colour
  Harvey Henry: I
  Colin Davis: is
  Harvey Henry: dunno
  Colin Davis: though.
  Harvey Henry: where it yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: Well, but we know that we're having at least three colours,
  Harvey Henry: So
  Jay Dipietro: so
  Harvey Henry: let's y say
  Colin Davis: Well,
  Harvey Henry: three.
  Colin Davis: are we talking about on each colour combination or are we, you know, we'll like we'll have yellow and black. Is that two special colours?
  Harvey Henry: Yeah, I dunno.
  Colin Davis: Or
  Harvey Henry: That
  Colin Davis: or
  Harvey Henry: I thi
  Colin Davis: is
  Harvey Henry: I
  Colin Davis: white and
  Harvey Henry: thought
  Colin Davis: black,
  Harvey Henry: that would be under
  Colin Davis: then
  Harvey Henry: yours.
  Colin Davis: two more or Uh. I guess it's three,
  Harvey Henry: We'll just say three.
  Colin Davis: three three.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: Right.
  Colin Davis: Alright.
  Harvey Henry: Maybe the R_R_ will be in colour as well, so yeah. Interface, we're doing push buttons.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: And how many buttons do we
  Jay Dipietro: We
  Harvey Henry: have?
  Jay Dipietro: have
  Larry Maldanado: We've got
  Jay Dipietro: six.
  Larry Maldanado: five.
  Jay Dipietro: Oh
  Colin Davis: Six,
  Jay Dipietro: no,
  Larry Maldanado: Oh
  Harvey Henry: Six.
  Jay Dipietro: five.
  Larry Maldanado: six.
  Colin Davis: with the power. Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Anything else?
  Colin Davis: No. Oh, we'll do we wa Are the buttons in special colour, special f I didn't get information on
  Jay Dipietro: Oh wait.
  Harvey Henry: Oh, buttons oh, so um. So the case material will just have one colour, right, but
  Colin Davis: Well,
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: then the buttons
  Colin Davis: does it
  Harvey Henry: will be in special colours?
  Colin Davis: but if we're making multiple varieties of this is where I'm getting confused.
  Harvey Henry: We're saying per unit.
  Colin Davis: per unit,
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah, per
  Colin Davis: okay,
  Jay Dipietro: unit.
  Harvey Henry: Okay,
  Colin Davis: okay.
  Harvey Henry: so each unit will only have one colour
  Colin Davis: Alright, and each
  Harvey Henry: on their
  Colin Davis: button
  Harvey Henry: but the case is
  Colin Davis: s
  Harvey Henry: could have up to thr I mean the buttons could ea could be up to three colours, 'cause that
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: how it's designed there.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: I like
  Colin Davis: Yeah,
  Jay Dipietro: it like that.
  Harvey Henry: So
  Colin Davis: okay.
  Harvey Henry: Special form? They're all kind of just push button,
  Colin Davis: No, I think
  Harvey Henry: right?
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: they're fine.
  Harvey Henry: Special material?
  Colin Davis: Material, we want them rubber as well probably, yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Uh. Oh do I have to do it per button, do I?
  Colin Davis: No, I don't think so. I think they're if they're all
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Colin Davis: gonna be rubber then it that's what it matters.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah, 'cause
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: it wouldn't make sense
  Harvey Henry: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: otherwise, 'cause for the whole mat case material it's only one.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: It's I mean it's two to make it rubber.
  Colin Davis: Okay.
  Jay Dipietro: Oh wait, so maybe.
  Harvey Henry: Thirteen point seven.
  Colin Davis: Oh oh.
  Harvey Henry: Yeah, what can we reduce?
  Colin Davis: Okay, let's have our buttons all be one colour.
  Jay Dipietro: Mm, I kind of like
  Harvey Henry: Let's
  Jay Dipietro: the
  Harvey Henry: see
  Jay Dipietro: buttons.
  Harvey Henry: what that would do. It's only gonna bring us down to thirteen point three anyway.
  Colin Davis: Alright.
  Harvey Henry: Okay um,
  Colin Davis: Uh.
  Harvey Henry: are we sure this is double-curved? Maybe it's single-curved,
  Colin Davis: We have no idea.
  Harvey Henry: we have no idea.
  Colin Davis: I dunno, I didn't get any pictures.
  Jay Dipietro: It's
  Colin Davis: It's single curved.
  Jay Dipietro: single curved.
  Colin Davis: Why not?
  Harvey Henry: Well it's not the yeah. Okay, it's the kinetic battery that's kind of expensive, but we have a simple chip, single curve, case material is rubber and it's a special colour,
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: but that's important.
  Colin Davis: That is important.
  Harvey Henry: Six buttons
  Colin Davis: How did
  Harvey Henry: we
  Colin Davis: it get
  Harvey Henry: have
  Colin Davis: more
  Harvey Henry: to
  Colin Davis: expensive,
  Harvey Henry: have six buttons.
  Colin Davis: what did you just change?
  Harvey Henry: What?
  Colin Davis: It was it was thirteen and now it's fifteen.
  Harvey Henry: No, okay, maybe not. I don't know what just happened. Now it's
  Jay Dipietro: We
  Harvey Henry: twelve.
  Larry Maldanado: What was our target price again?
  Colin Davis: Twelve
  Harvey Henry: Twelve
  Colin Davis: point five.
  Harvey Henry: point five.
  Colin Davis: Hey
  Larry Maldanado: Twelve
  Colin Davis: hey.
  Larry Maldanado: point five. So we're just
  Harvey Henry: So we're
  Larry Maldanado: just
  Harvey Henry: okay,
  Larry Maldanado: about there.
  Colin Davis: We're all
  Harvey Henry: I think.
  Colin Davis: set then.
  Harvey Henry: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: Ish.
  Harvey Henry: Okay,
  Colin Davis: Alright.
  Harvey Henry: we're all set. Um save. I saved that to our um our big shared folder, so you know. Um okay, back to agenda. Um are the are the costs under twelve fifty Euro?
  Colin Davis: Yes.
  Harvey Henry: Yes.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah,
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: they are.
  Harvey Henry: Let's move on to the project evaluation. Project process. Satisfaction with for example the room for creativity, leadership, teamwork, the means, any new ideas found. So I guess what we're gonna talk about here is just evaluating how we created this project, the information we got on the news, how we used it, if we were able to um, you know, use our creativity with the information, um how how well I guess I led it, um the how well we worked together as a team, um the digital pens, the whiteboard.
  Colin Davis: Well.
  Harvey Henry: Okay.
  Colin Davis: I felt very creative. I enjoyed making the prototypes.
  Larry Maldanado: I think we've been successful in that we've achieved almost all of the design goals that we've set
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: and we've come up with a finished project and we just about got cost.
  Colin Davis: I think we could've done even better with a little bit more information, like
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: what's a single-curved case, how many colours, what do colours count
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: things, but given given what we had I think that we did we did really well. Um I think we worked together pretty well.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah, I mean if I'd had more market research on the fruits
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: and vegetables, maybe we could've taken that into account.
  Colin Davis: But the fruits and vegetables, they really my creativity, so.
  Jay Dipietro: I know, I really did, the the whole mango idea was great. No, I mean
  Colin Davis: Do you think we
  Jay Dipietro: I
  Colin Davis: could
  Jay Dipietro: thought the pen was a little distracting for Jay Dipietro personally, like its heaviness, and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages, I dunno. That was a bit of a distraction.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: That was the last one, like I chose not to do a PowerPoint 'cause I didn't think it made sense to, so I liked that I had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: that whole sort of thing.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: I think we all made um very significant contributions, I don't think anybody dominated it, which I thought was really good, like each of us was able to um like each of you had your information and I uh I tried to facilitate it without like taking over, um
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: I like our little finished products.
  Jay Dipietro: They're funny.
  Harvey Henry: Really cute.
  Jay Dipietro: I kind of want one.
  Colin Davis: Can we market this as the mango remote? Should we have that somewhere on the packaging? I have a little
  Jay Dipietro: I'm
  Colin Davis: R_R_.
  Jay Dipietro: trying to think of a good pun that I could add there.
  Harvey Henry: I know, let's think of it like a little jingle. Um.
  Jay Dipietro: I like the R_R_, that's gonna be etched in.
  Colin Davis: Yes. Hopefully not with just my fingernail at some point but um it's quite a useful little gadget. All thanks to Iain for the design of that one.
  Harvey Henry: Okay um
  Colin Davis: Mm. What did we
  Harvey Henry: new
  Colin Davis: find
  Harvey Henry: ideas
  Colin Davis: for new ideas?
  Harvey Henry: found?
  Colin Davis: People should really base their remotes on fruits and vegetables.
  Harvey Henry: Definitely.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Or or at least be c p creative enough to think of toggle switches mm
  Colin Davis: I
  Harvey Henry: etcetera.
  Colin Davis: I am really into the idea of kinetic batteries now
  Harvey Henry: Oh, I'm
  Colin Davis: after
  Harvey Henry: so
  Colin Davis: reading
  Harvey Henry: excited.
  Colin Davis: about them.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah,
  Colin Davis: That
  Jay Dipietro: I didn't
  Colin Davis: was
  Jay Dipietro: even know they existed.
  Colin Davis: I I knew you can get watches that had them, like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery, 'cause you're always moving your wrist.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: But in other things, I think it'd be really good.
  Harvey Henry: I thi yeah, that's awesome. Um okay, closing. Are the costs within the budget? Is the project
  Colin Davis: Yes.
  Harvey Henry: evaluated? Now there's the final questionnaire and meeting summary. Um so, this is the great product kids, I think we've created something really interesting and that we have a market for it, um
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: especially if we can produce it at twelve point three which we hope um yeah. Make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the um the final results and.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah, Real Reaction.
  Harvey Henry: I do like the Martian remote. If we could choose more than one, that would be my second choice.
  Jay Dipietro: Oh, that would definitely be my second choice.
  Larry Maldanado: Mm.
  Harvey Henry: Although the tog toggle I'm afraid
  Larry Maldanado: That's
  Harvey Henry: I
  Larry Maldanado: cool.
  Harvey Henry: would
  Larry Maldanado: Let's
  Jay Dipietro: I
  Larry Maldanado: all
  Jay Dipietro: would break
  Larry Maldanado: let's all
  Jay Dipietro: it.
  Larry Maldanado: go for
  Harvey Henry: It's
  Larry Maldanado: the
  Harvey Henry: cool.
  Larry Maldanado: yellow
  Jay Dipietro: I would break it.
  Harvey Henry: I think I would break it.
  Colin Davis: It
  Larry Maldanado: Break
  Colin Davis: started
  Larry Maldanado: the stem
  Colin Davis: because
  Larry Maldanado: off.
  Colin Davis: I wanted to have it as st as a stem and then alright, so
  Jay Dipietro: Oh that's funny.
  Colin Davis: Is it started as a pear, but then it started looking more and more like a Martian when I put
  Jay Dipietro: Kind
  Colin Davis: the
  Jay Dipietro: of looks like a penguin, like with no eye.
  Harvey Henry: Oh
  Colin Davis: Take
  Harvey Henry: yeah, it's
  Colin Davis: Jay Dipietro
  Harvey Henry: kind of a
  Colin Davis: to
  Harvey Henry: penguin.
  Colin Davis: your leader.
  Jay Dipietro: I like that it stands up.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-mm.
  Colin Davis: Wow, maybe I should market it to some remote control company now. So are are
  Larry Maldanado: That was
  Jay Dipietro: Oh,
  Larry Maldanado: bound to happen
  Jay Dipietro: sad.
  Colin Davis: poor little thing.
  Harvey Henry: Mm 'kay, congratulations. Um. Anything else to say?
  Jay Dipietro: Nothing will come up until after our meeting's supposed to be over,
  Harvey Henry: Alright.
  Jay Dipietro: its all timed.
  Colin Davis: Oh.
  Harvey Henry: Um anybody
  Jay Dipietro: Oh.
  Harvey Henry: have I got more master classes, anybody else wanna like take a master's class?
  Colin Davis: It's really funny that you got spam in your work emails.
  Harvey Henry: Yeah, but check it out. So like there are all these like links, they don't go anywhere. But all that you need to keep in mind your knowledge management. Um just wanna make sure you do.
  Jay Dipietro: No the first one that you sent like I didn't realise that it was a joke and I was like why did she send this
  Harvey Henry: Oh
  Jay Dipietro: to us? It's very it's very work relevant, 'cause people
  Harvey Henry: It is.
  Jay Dipietro: send spam a lot.
  Harvey Henry: Yes definitely I'm very sad that I didn't get any links to the corporate website.
  Jay Dipietro: Oh here you can
  Colin Davis: Let's see,
  Jay Dipietro: you can
  Colin Davis: what
  Jay Dipietro: view.
  Colin Davis: did I get through the corporate website? It's
  Jay Dipietro: You can
  Colin Davis: just
  Jay Dipietro: just see what's
  Colin Davis: inspiration
  Jay Dipietro: up.
  Colin Davis: about circuit boards.
  Harvey Henry: Wow.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah it's it's really deep. Hold on. Takes a little while to get excited to load. That the Excel thing is pretty cool.
  Harvey Henry: Yes.
  Colin Davis: Yeah, that
  Jay Dipietro: Here,
  Harvey Henry: I
  Colin Davis: is
  Harvey Henry: love
  Jay Dipietro: like,
  Colin Davis: pretty
  Harvey Henry: Excel,
  Colin Davis: neat.
  Harvey Henry: it's
  Jay Dipietro: basically
  Harvey Henry: one of my favourite programs.
  Jay Dipietro: it's like inspiration, basically I'm gonna give you two sentences on fashion and that kind of thing, see. You didn't miss
  Harvey Henry: I
  Jay Dipietro: out
  Harvey Henry: see,
  Jay Dipietro: that much.
  Harvey Henry: mm.
  Colin Davis: Yeah, my inspiration from from last time
  Harvey Henry: Spongy.
  Colin Davis: is the in interior of a remote control being taken apart bit by bit, talking about circuit boards. I learned a lot actually.
  Larry Maldanado: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: Oh wow.
  Colin Davis: I could probably take apart a remote control now if I really needed to.
  Jay Dipietro: This one was cooler. I got a whole table and everything.
  Colin Davis: Now I have all about circuits and chips and transponders and I wrote it all down, because I thought it would be relevant, like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control, but then they're like, you don't actually need this you just
  Jay Dipietro: That's
  Colin Davis: need
  Jay Dipietro: like
  Colin Davis: to
  Jay Dipietro: mine
  Colin Davis: talk
  Jay Dipietro: it
  Colin Davis: about
  Jay Dipietro: was like,
  Colin Davis: the case.
  Jay Dipietro: would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen or a multifunction remote control? And then it didn't have like any kind of table, like awesome, I'm glad they asked that question and didn't report the result.
  Colin Davis: It's really
  Harvey Henry: I
  Colin Davis: interesting though.
  Harvey Henry: I thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: We had a lot of the um
  Larry Maldanado: I
  Harvey Henry: otherwise
  Larry Maldanado: think.
  Harvey Henry: the technology today was kinda cool.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: That was really neat how I got emails
  Larry Maldanado: We didn't
  Colin Davis: and
  Larry Maldanado: we didn't
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Larry Maldanado: use the whiteboard that much.
  Harvey Henry: No.
  Colin Davis: No.
  Harvey Henry: Although I don't see how we could have very l at least for Jay Dipietro I
  Colin Davis: I yeah. If I'd gotten pictures of the different parts of the case, the different looks of the case, I would have probably drawn them up, but
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: 'Cause we weren't like voting on anything and I think usually, like whiteboards are good, you know like crossing out ideas, or like if we had had like a brainstorming
  Colin Davis: Yeah, we could've
  Jay Dipietro: period.
  Colin Davis: put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it, but
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: But I thought we were good orally.
  Colin Davis: with only four people it doesn't really make sense.
  Jay Dipietro: Get
  Colin Davis: I think if you
  Harvey Henry: And
  Colin Davis: had
  Harvey Henry: with
  Colin Davis: a larger
  Jay Dipietro: crazy.
  Harvey Henry: and
  Colin Davis: group
  Harvey Henry: with the PowerPoint that we can all look at, like you
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: can do all those things pretty much on PowerPoint
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: as that's
  Jay Dipietro: And
  Harvey Henry: not
  Jay Dipietro: these
  Harvey Henry: as necessary
  Jay Dipietro: might've
  Harvey Henry: to have.
  Jay Dipietro: made us more willing to like take notes than to like
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: write up them here, 'cause we all needed them separately, kind of on the whiteboards in
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: this room.
  Colin Davis: Because we're all gonna be working in different places.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: We if we were all gonna stay in here all the time, then
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: having the notes up on the whiteboard would've been alright, but everyone needs their own, like specific notes, I guess.
  Harvey Henry: Now when you were um creating your um prototypes here, did you work together or did you like do separate projects?
  Larry Maldanado: Uh we we worked together,
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: um but we were making like we sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the how the buttons might work,
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: Yeah. So it was a bit of both really, we just kind of started out by each taking a colour of clay and just fooling around with it and I came up with that rhombus shape and he came
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: up with the sort of potatoey, mangoey shape, and then just went from there really.
  Harvey Henry: Cool.
  Colin Davis: It was fun.
  Colin Davis: So well done with the management, I felt well managed.
  Harvey Henry: Oh thanks.
  Larry Maldanado: I think we did well in
  Harvey Henry: It's kinda fun.
  Larry Maldanado: first of all giving our meetings the time, and second we actually we we did a good job of making firm decisions at the ends of the meetings.
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: Sorry.
  Larry Maldanado: And I
  Colin Davis: That happened to Jay Dipietro all the time though.
  Larry Maldanado: I know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sort of have meetings and then people sorta drift away without anything actually really being decided.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Larry Maldanado: But I think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points at the end of the meetings, so that we we knew where to go on from there.
  Colin Davis: Yeah, I was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we weren't getting we didn't really have enough information to make firm decisions,
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: but we were able to do it regardless, so. I'm not usually a very decisive person, so it helped to have people say this needs
  Harvey Henry: This
  Colin Davis: to
  Harvey Henry: is
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: be
  Harvey Henry: what
  Colin Davis: done
  Harvey Henry: we'll do.
  Colin Davis: in five minutes.
  Harvey Henry: I found that we did we could have used another five or ten minutes sometimes
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah, for
  Colin Davis: Especially
  Larry Maldanado: some
  Harvey Henry: in
  Larry Maldanado: of
  Harvey Henry: the
  Larry Maldanado: the
  Harvey Henry: meetings.
  Larry Maldanado: meetings,
  Colin Davis: last
  Larry Maldanado: yeah.
  Colin Davis: time,
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Yeah I think the last time we had a lot of information,
  Colin Davis: Yeah,
  Harvey Henry: but at the same time not quite enough,
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: you know what I mean,
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: like we
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: we couldn't answer every single question.
  Colin Davis: Right.
  Harvey Henry: Um but
  Colin Davis: And I I felt the first two meetings, that I was coming in with no information, and not sort
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Colin Davis: of made Jay Dipietro really like, ooh I don't know, throwing together PowerPoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite. I had so much information and so much to talk about.
  Harvey Henry: It was interesting what came out like later, like as I was doing
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: the when I was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave Jay Dipietro um, that more points came out from your
  Colin Davis: Mm.
  Harvey Henry: presentation even. Um. I'm a little I am a little disappointed that we didn't do a um something for losing the remote, because
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: that was kind of a big point.
  Colin Davis: that was something like in order to talk about that we would've had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards
  Harvey Henry: About
  Colin Davis: and
  Harvey Henry: yeah.
  Colin Davis: things
  Jay Dipietro: Well the problem
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: like
  Jay Dipietro: was, even when we just were creating from the Excel file, there wasn't like a option to select to somehow
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: have it included, so there was no we could be like yeah, it
  Colin Davis: I
  Jay Dipietro: has
  Colin Davis: think
  Jay Dipietro: it
  Colin Davis: we
  Jay Dipietro: included.
  Colin Davis: were
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: There was no way for us to have
  Harvey Henry: Considered
  Jay Dipietro: written
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: down
  Harvey Henry: the re
  Jay Dipietro: that
  Harvey Henry: yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: it was really there.
  Colin Davis: I think we were just getting overenthusiastic with the task.
  Harvey Henry: Well it's interesting
  Colin Davis: I think we really
  Harvey Henry: that
  Colin Davis: got
  Harvey Henry: they
  Colin Davis: into it, I mean I got into it as the day went on and I got really like, ooh I'm designing a remote control, I dunno if that's just
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm,
  Colin Davis: Jay Dipietro, but
  Harvey Henry: yeah. It was interesting though that they put that fifty percent of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they didn't provide us with information to
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: um
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: we weren't provided with information to discuss that. I know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it'll beep,
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: but I but I'm sure that would require some kind of technology that I just don't know what it is,
  Colin Davis: I think
  Harvey Henry: but
  Colin Davis: there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you won't lose them.
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Colin Davis: I dunno. I mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least, there's only about two places that the remote is ever
  Harvey Henry: Hmm.
  Colin Davis: 'cause there's only one T_V_ and there's
  Jay Dipietro: That's
  Colin Davis: only
  Jay Dipietro: like
  Colin Davis: like
  Jay Dipietro: saying
  Colin Davis: three
  Jay Dipietro: you're never
  Colin Davis: chairs.
  Jay Dipietro: gonna lose your keys, and I always do, anyway. You'll lose 'em in your pocket, like you
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Jay Dipietro: just will forget that or you like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Jay Dipietro: not remember, there's always ways to lose things.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: It d yeah, it depends on how organised you are personally, but
  Colin Davis: Yeah, or like I guess what the setup of the house is too.
  Harvey Henry: Mm-hmm.
  Colin Davis: But, I mean I am notorious for losing my keys, I just I guess I've just never lost the remote. I put my keys in the refrigerator the other night and couldn't find them. 'Cause I was putting groceries away.
  Jay Dipietro: That's funny.
  Harvey Henry: Oh.
  Colin Davis: You you're taking stuff from a bag and putting them in the refrigerator and then go back to my room.
  Harvey Henry: Can't get in.
  Colin Davis: Can't get in, look all around the kitchen. Definitely in the vegetable drawer.
  Jay Dipietro: That's funny.
  Colin Davis: So.
  Jay Dipietro: I always do that, leaving it in my coat, and then like using a different coat.
  Colin Davis: Mm.
  Harvey Henry: Yep.
  Colin Davis: But I guess it's 'cause we don't carry remotes around that much.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah. Can't really take it into the other room.
  Colin Davis: Yeah. Maybe with our little robot one we could've had him have a robot, alien, pear, whatever he is, have a little voice like, I am located Oh a G_P_S_ system, internal G_P_S_.
  Jay Dipietro: Oh man. Here you go.
  Colin Davis: Although if it's sitting still for
  Harvey Henry: We
  Colin Davis: too
  Harvey Henry: should
  Colin Davis: long.
  Harvey Henry: make one that walks by itself.
  Colin Davis: Yes
  Jay Dipietro: That really
  Colin Davis: I
  Jay Dipietro: could get up and walk away.
  Harvey Henry: Or or like some crazy like electro-magnet, that you push
  Colin Davis: Or
  Harvey Henry: it and it'll
  Colin Davis: little
  Harvey Henry: go zoom to the T_V_ and stick there.
  Colin Davis: Or just just a wheel, you know. Just if you like you'd have a remote for your remote, that'll.
  Larry Maldanado: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: Well, but if you could attach
  Colin Davis: zoom
  Harvey Henry: them to the T_V_, then you can.
  Colin Davis: Yeah. Hmm. All
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Colin Davis: kinds of possibilities.
  Harvey Henry: Okay. Sorry, I'm just um trying to update my minutes. I decided to you know how I sent you the email saying that PowerPoint minutes will be complimentary,
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Harvey Henry: rather than like repeating them. Just gonna make I'm making full minutes, so that it'll
  Colin Davis: Oh.
  Harvey Henry: include all of the agenda and all that.
  Colin Davis: Wow.
  Harvey Henry: 'Cause that seems a little more useful.
  Colin Davis: 'Cause you've had like the most typing and organising to do.
  Harvey Henry: But I didn't have like information to sloth
  Colin Davis: Yeah,
  Harvey Henry: through either, so
  Colin Davis: I guess How much of your PowerPoint was already done for you, every meeting.
  Harvey Henry: Most of it, mm-hmm. I added slides, um
  Colin Davis: Oh.
  Harvey Henry: I added a couple slides each time, but that was about it.
  Colin Davis: Okay. Yeah, I didn't even think about adding slides, 'cause I would just get slides with titles on them and
  Harvey Henry: Mm.
  Colin Davis: fill them all in w didn't even think about adding more.
  Harvey Henry: Well, the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points, but it wouldn't have a slide for each point.
  Colin Davis: Ah
  Harvey Henry: And that's the only
  Colin Davis: yeah..
  Harvey Henry: way I remember that I need to go other that point. I know personally when I do PowerPoint, that's what I do and so I had it once, even if it was just like the title of it, like the three presentations, and I would do your
  Colin Davis: Right.
  Harvey Henry: three.
  Jay Dipietro: You have you have to have the slogan on it or can it just be like
  Harvey Henry: The slogan
  Colin Davis: No,
  Harvey Henry: on it?
  Colin Davis: no,
  Harvey Henry: No
  Colin Davis: definitely
  Harvey Henry: no
  Jay Dipietro: Okay
  Harvey Henry: no.
  Jay Dipietro: good.
  Colin Davis: not. We
  Jay Dipietro: 'Cause I was like, it could go around the outside.
  Colin Davis: No, I don't think we need to I
  Harvey Henry: I think
  Colin Davis: think
  Harvey Henry: we just
  Colin Davis: the
  Harvey Henry: need
  Colin Davis: R_
  Harvey Henry: the
  Colin Davis: and R_,
  Harvey Henry: um
  Colin Davis: especially
  Harvey Henry: the R_R_,
  Colin Davis: if
  Harvey Henry: yeah.
  Colin Davis: the yellow and black one.
  Jay Dipietro: Is it yellow and blue?
  Colin Davis: Or yellow and blue. Lemme go to the web page.
  Harvey Henry: Yeah, I was just kinda going by the web page, 'cause they didn't give Jay Dipietro any clear, like yellow,
  Jay Dipietro: Oh
  Harvey Henry: grey,
  Jay Dipietro: I guess it is black,
  Harvey Henry: or.
  Jay Dipietro: grey. Grey is better than black, doesn't look so bumblebeeish.
  Harvey Henry: I don't really like yellow in general.
  Jay Dipietro: Hey now I understand the
  Harvey Henry: But
  Jay Dipietro: random
  Harvey Henry: it
  Jay Dipietro: like newsclippings.
  Colin Davis: Finish meeting now.
  Harvey Henry: Wasn't it interesting that um I thought it was interesting that our market marketing um expert did not agree with the marketing um the marketing choices, you know, like
  Jay Dipietro: Yes. I will I just feel
  Harvey Henry: that
  Jay Dipietro: like
  Harvey Henry: was
  Jay Dipietro: if you're
  Harvey Henry: a bit
  Jay Dipietro: really
  Harvey Henry: of a conflict.
  Jay Dipietro: doing like a a really big market evaluation, you wouldn't just have like one set of source, it's kind of an they were so not backed up, it would just be a sentence like we did a survey, this is what people said.
  Colin Davis: Yeah.
  Jay Dipietro: S mm, I dunno.
  Harvey Henry: People are stupid.
  Colin Davis: I guess it i it sort of a grey, isn't it? Yellow and grey, but then the slogan's in blue.
  Jay Dipietro: Well we got some grey and we got some blue buttons, we're good.
  Colin Davis: Yeah. Well we don't have the right colour clay anyway.
  Harvey Henry: Maybe, like I don't know. That could always be.
  Colin Davis: Well we're not, sadly, going to actually be producing this, so.
  Harvey Henry: Oh.
  Jay Dipietro: If they ever come out with potato
  Colin Davis: Potato mango shaped remotes.
  Jay Dipietro: I'm gonna
  Harvey Henry: I'm
  Jay Dipietro: have
  Harvey Henry: claiming
  Jay Dipietro: to
  Harvey Henry: it intellectual property.
  Jay Dipietro: Yeah.
  Colin Davis: I can't believe a whole day is gone.
  Jay Dipietro: I know.
  Colin Davis: I don't feel like it's been that long. Get sucked in. Mm I haven't gotten questionnaire eight yet.
Updated Content: Harvey Henry recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting and two team members presented three prototypes which differed primarily in shape. The team felt it was not necessary to include a feature to prevent the remote from getting lost as the prototype designs were quite bright. The team conducted a product evaluation of the prototype the team liked the most. They rated the prototype on the basis of its appearance, functionality, technological innovativeness, sponginess, usability, learn-ability, its ability to be found when misplaced, simplicity, and its ability to meet the appropriate demographic. The team then discussed the production costs of the remote and what features they should retain or lose in order to maintain their target cost. Harvey Henry then led the team in a project evaluation in which the team evaluated how they created the project, the information they found and used, their creativity, their teamwork, and the materials they had at their disposal. The team was generally quite satisfied. After Harvey Henry's closing, the team discussed their personal preferences in terms of the prototypes. They also further evaluated the project process and discussed what they had learned.