Extracted Content: Jennifer Sanchez: I'm proud of it.
  Katheryn Melle: Okay. This is our final meeting, the detailed meeting. And again I'll take minutes. The what we have to get through in this meeting is firstly the prototype presentation from you two, so you can show us what you've been working
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: on so diligently. Um
  Marx Wittke: It
  Katheryn Melle: then
  Marx Wittke: does look very cool.
  Katheryn Melle: then Cat's going to present the evaluation criteria that we're going to be evaluating this against. Then I need to say some st a few things about finance, 'cause we have to check that it's within the finance criteria. Um and then be making sure that product fits both the evaluation criteria from Cat the financial. Um and then we uh will have a brief evaluation of the whole process of production and design that we've been through. So we've got forty minutes.
  Marx Wittke: And
  Katheryn Melle: S
  Marx Wittke: then do get to make a remote control?
  Katheryn Melle: 'Cause we missed out.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: So it's now I guess that we're supposed to start at fifteen thirty five, so we've got until four fifteen.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Uh-huh.
  Katheryn Melle: Is that
  Jennifer Sanchez: How
  Katheryn Melle: right?
  Jennifer Sanchez: how much do we have, forty minutes?
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah, about
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: four
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: fifteen,
  Katheryn Melle: until
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: about four fifteen. So yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Okay, so.
  Katheryn Melle: Go for it. Do you want
  Marilyn Ross: So, you said um are are we starting with the
  Katheryn Melle: Yes.
  Marilyn Ross: the
  Jennifer Sanchez: Presentation.
  Marilyn Ross: so will you maybe start with like the mm the shape and things and and then I will explain the the user interface th uh things,
  Jennifer Sanchez: Okay.
  Marilyn Ross: like the buttons and the scrolling things and
  Jennifer Sanchez: Okay. So um basically going with our trend of vegetables and we selected the colour and approximate shape of banana. Um
  Marx Wittke: You think bananas are a safe thing to use? It's a bit um phallic.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah. Um
  Marilyn Ross: Well, but it's it's just an a
  Katheryn Melle: Dual
  Marilyn Ross: approximation.
  Katheryn Melle: use, perfect.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Dual use, perfect.
  Marx Wittke: Oh, your remote control? Oh that's just bad.
  Katheryn Melle: Does it vibrate when you press the buttons? Sorry, sorry.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Um so basically it's the it's the flip open thing again.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Jennifer Sanchez: So now we we have the okay, so Ma Maarika explain you the user interface there. And it flips open on the side, so it opens like that.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Jennifer Sanchez: And we have the user interface
  Katheryn Melle: Wow.
  Jennifer Sanchez: o in here and uh the the L_C_D_ and and the scroll are inside. Um well, everything else is probably user interface, so. Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: Uh
  Katheryn Melle: And it's
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: the whole thing's made of rubber,
  Marilyn Ross: Rubber.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Oh
  Katheryn Melle: is that
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah. Yeah, it has, yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: Is it to scale, or do you think you can make it a bit smaller?
  Marilyn Ross: Um it could be made a bit smaller, and and of it would be and yeah,
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: but um one thing we actually kind of um forgot while designing, that one side was supposed to be rounder, so we
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: said the back side
  Jennifer Sanchez: well,
  Marilyn Ross: round,
  Jennifer Sanchez: but
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: i since it's made of rubber anyway. I
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Jennifer Sanchez: I think
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: it's
  Marx Wittke: It
  Jennifer Sanchez: it's
  Marx Wittke: l does
  Jennifer Sanchez: uh
  Marx Wittke: look like the curvy and then the whole shape's curvy, so I
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: that this
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: curvy does look quite like a vegetable.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm. Hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: And it's spongy as well.
  Marx Wittke: I wasn't
  Marilyn Ross: So
  Marx Wittke: very keen on that, but yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Huh.
  Marilyn Ross: so uh the user interface as as we discussed last time uh mm on on the on the cover we just have the very basic things.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: So we have that n uh channels here starting from um uh one two three there would be numbers in in
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: the on the actual one. So it's four, up to four, up to seven,
  Katheryn Melle: Six
  Marilyn Ross: up
  Katheryn Melle: seven
  Marilyn Ross: to nine
  Katheryn Melle: eight nine.
  Marilyn Ross: and zero, z
  Katheryn Melle: I
  Marilyn Ross: zero
  Katheryn Melle: like
  Marilyn Ross: here.
  Katheryn Melle: that.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah. And then, well this is on off button. It's it's quite standard mm place for it and and also the colour is quite often red, so it's it's kind of user friendly.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: And then these ones would be for flipping the channels back and like the previous one and the next one.
  Katheryn Melle: Uh-huh.
  Marilyn Ross: And and we would also have a l little um thing saying here, previous and ne prevon prevon next.
  Marx Wittke: So
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: where's the volume?
  Marilyn Ross: The volume is is scrolling. On
  Jennifer Sanchez: It's
  Marilyn Ross: the side,
  Jennifer Sanchez: on the side.
  Marilyn Ross: this
  Marx Wittke: Ah,
  Marilyn Ross: one.
  Marx Wittke: you
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah
  Marx Wittke: did
  Marilyn Ross: you
  Marx Wittke: get
  Marilyn Ross: just
  Marx Wittke: that
  Marilyn Ross: do
  Marx Wittke: in
  Marilyn Ross: it
  Marx Wittke: then,
  Marilyn Ross: like this.
  Marx Wittke: mm-hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: And and and it's it's on the back is mm cover or back lid, because if you flip it open, you can still do the scrolling here.
  Marx Wittke: Oh
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: okay,
  Marilyn Ross: See? So the volume is you just scroll, but then once you flip it open, okay, there there you have the screen
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: and and you have the mm spinning wheel with
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: options to choose. You can move back and forth and then if you need to m choose something on the screen, you just push the cen mm the middle button.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: Cool. Oh, the thing we forgot was like a mute button.
  Marilyn Ross: A mute
  Jennifer Sanchez: Uh
  Marilyn Ross: button.
  Jennifer Sanchez: no,
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: we we'd not put
  Marilyn Ross: Well,
  Jennifer Sanchez: so on
  Marilyn Ross: we'll have this on the screen, on the display.
  Jennifer Sanchez: on the cover
  Katheryn Melle: Y or
  Jennifer Sanchez: we
  Katheryn Melle: you could
  Jennifer Sanchez: have
  Katheryn Melle: have
  Jennifer Sanchez: the
  Katheryn Melle: it
  Jennifer Sanchez: the
  Katheryn Melle: so
  Marx Wittke: On
  Jennifer Sanchez: bare
  Marx Wittke: the
  Katheryn Melle: you
  Jennifer Sanchez: essentials.
  Marx Wittke: wheel, like
  Katheryn Melle: on the
  Marx Wittke: if
  Katheryn Melle: wheel
  Marx Wittke: you hold
  Katheryn Melle: if
  Marx Wittke: the
  Katheryn Melle: you.
  Marx Wittke: wheel down then it will
  Jennifer Sanchez: Uh on
  Marx Wittke: mute.
  Jennifer Sanchez: the L_C_D_ we r you know, the main
  Marilyn Ross: Well,
  Jennifer Sanchez: menu will
  Marilyn Ross: but
  Jennifer Sanchez: have
  Marilyn Ross: the
  Jennifer Sanchez: various
  Marilyn Ross: but the mute
  Jennifer Sanchez: options.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah, the scrolling is kind of you have to scroll all the way to make it mute, right?
  Katheryn Melle: But if you
  Marx Wittke: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: hold
  Marx Wittke: but it's a
  Katheryn Melle: it
  Marx Wittke: scroll
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Katheryn Melle: in,
  Marx Wittke: and click, isn't it?
  Katheryn Melle: if it's a scroll and click so you
  Marilyn Ross: Okay,
  Katheryn Melle: hold it in?
  Marx Wittke: Okay, cool.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah,
  Marx Wittke: So that
  Marilyn Ross: okay.
  Marx Wittke: that solves the whole mute issue.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah. And okay, so i so the the voice recognition is also just part of it. You can't really see it in
  Katheryn Melle: no.
  Marilyn Ross: the interface.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah, it's
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: hidden in there
  Marilyn Ross: And
  Jennifer Sanchez: somewhere.
  Marilyn Ross: we do have the logo on it as
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm,
  Marilyn Ross: well.
  Katheryn Melle: very good.
  Marilyn Ross: So I think
  Katheryn Melle: And it's
  Marilyn Ross: it
  Katheryn Melle: with the the black and yellow you're even in the right colours.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah. Yeah, I
  Jennifer Sanchez: Cool.
  Marilyn Ross: think um we could do l the logo in grey,
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: as it is on the website.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: We
  Marilyn Ross: In the actual
  Jennifer Sanchez: ran out
  Marilyn Ross: one.
  Jennifer Sanchez: of resources here, so.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah. So if
  Jennifer Sanchez: You
  Marilyn Ross: you
  Jennifer Sanchez: can
  Marilyn Ross: have
  Jennifer Sanchez: have
  Marilyn Ross: questions.
  Jennifer Sanchez: a look.
  Katheryn Melle: Very good, let's have a look. Test it out. Uh it's a sort of intermediate colour, I guess.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, oh, we hold the remote. Oh, but it it does feel all cold and slimy. I hate Play-Do, it's just minging. But yeah, uh that's cool, cool.
  Katheryn Melle: Very good.
  Marx Wittke: Mm-hmm.
  Katheryn Melle: Okay, so maybe if we go on to evaluation cri criteria
  Marx Wittke: Okay.
  Katheryn Melle: and then we'll
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: there
  Jennifer Sanchez: see
  Katheryn Melle: I
  Jennifer Sanchez: the
  Katheryn Melle: suspect
  Jennifer Sanchez: budget.
  Katheryn Melle: we're gonna have a couple of minor finance issues, but um we'll se I'm sure we can get around them somehow.
  Katheryn Melle: We'll just send all of our manufacturing to some nice poor country and cut some of the prices that way.
  Marx Wittke: Wales.
  Katheryn Melle: Wales, for example.
  Marx Wittke: Mm. Cool, okay. Right, okay.
  Marx Wittke: Fabulous,
  Katheryn Melle: Marketing Expert.
  Marx Wittke: yeah. Okay, cool. So what we're gonna do is prefer prepare the evaluation of the new design.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: Um so we're gonna be using a seven point scale, so one is, you know, yes, it totally meets with that requirement and seven is, no, it really doesn't, we need to go back and start again. Um, you know. Basically, what I did was I went through all the like user requirements and things that we've done and we've worked on and like made a list of them. Um you know, so that we can evaluate each one and like so it was about going back to the start and saying oh yeah, we did manage to do that, or oh no, we really forgot about
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: that.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: Okay? Cool, so these are what they are. Oh
  Katheryn Melle: So for each of these we need to give it a one to seven. Is that right?
  Marx Wittke: Yes, I did have A_, B_, C_, and D_ down here, but it seems to have turned into like
  Katheryn Melle: Mm
  Marx Wittke: just bullet
  Katheryn Melle: dots,
  Marx Wittke: points.
  Katheryn Melle: never mind.
  Marx Wittke: Okay. But if you can imagine that they say A_, B_, C_, and D_, then that would be really good.
  Jennifer Sanchez: I guess we'll give it maximum points in everything.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah, the yeah, it's definitely attractive.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah, I agree.
  Marilyn Ross: Oh, the locatable thing we actually forgot.
  Marx Wittke: Well, I thought we'd um kinda said that you'd have a little thing to stick on the T_V_?
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: Shall I just prepare it
  Katheryn Melle: just
  Marilyn Ross: now?
  Katheryn Melle: prepare one now.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: It will be red, too.
  Marx Wittke: Cool. Okay. So, be attractive to look at. That's this one. What do you all say?
  Jennifer Sanchez: So?
  Katheryn Melle: I reckon
  Marilyn Ross: S seven
  Katheryn Melle: it
  Marilyn Ross: was th the maximum, yeah?
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: I I go for seven.
  Katheryn Melle: Seven,
  Marx Wittke: Oh
  Katheryn Melle: yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yes.
  Katheryn Melle: it's terribly
  Marx Wittke: we're all so
  Katheryn Melle: sexy.
  Marx Wittke: proud of the.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Okay, so that'll be a seven for A_. Could oh no, you can't whilst that's up there. Okay um uh what I've done on the next page is I've set it up so we just put the marks in.
  Katheryn Melle: Ah, okay.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Okay.
  Katheryn Melle: Excellent. Except we can't
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: uh we
  Marx Wittke: But
  Katheryn Melle: can
  Jennifer Sanchez: But
  Marx Wittke: that's
  Jennifer Sanchez: we can
  Katheryn Melle: if
  Marx Wittke: alright.
  Jennifer Sanchez: we can
  Katheryn Melle: we
  Marx Wittke: If you
  Jennifer Sanchez: I can
  Marx Wittke: take
  Jennifer Sanchez: I can take
  Marx Wittke: a note
  Jennifer Sanchez: note
  Marx Wittke: of them,
  Katheryn Melle: then
  Marx Wittke: and
  Jennifer Sanchez: uh
  Marx Wittke: then
  Katheryn Melle: yeah,
  Marx Wittke: I'll
  Katheryn Melle: I'll
  Jennifer Sanchez: uh
  Marx Wittke: put
  Katheryn Melle: take
  Marx Wittke: them
  Katheryn Melle: a
  Marx Wittke: in
  Katheryn Melle: note,
  Marx Wittke: in a minute.
  Katheryn Melle: it's fine.
  Marx Wittke: Okay, so we're all agreeing on seven for A_?
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Cool, okay. Does it match the operating behaviour of the user?
  Marilyn Ross: I
  Jennifer Sanchez: Um
  Marilyn Ross: would
  Katheryn Melle: I think
  Marilyn Ross: think
  Katheryn Melle: it does.
  Marilyn Ross: yes,
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: the the
  Marx Wittke: I
  Jennifer Sanchez: only
  Marx Wittke: mean
  Jennifer Sanchez: thing that we were considering was that uh this thing is kind of more for right-handed people than for left-handed people, so if you're left-handed you're kind of
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: left uh
  Marilyn Ross: so
  Katheryn Melle: Alright.
  Jennifer Sanchez: scrolling
  Marilyn Ross: y so we
  Jennifer Sanchez: with your
  Marilyn Ross: we
  Jennifer Sanchez: finger.
  Marilyn Ross: might do we might want to do like a uh another m model another another version, which is like exactly the mirror image of this one.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: But that's gonna be a
  Jennifer Sanchez: But
  Katheryn Melle: problem,
  Jennifer Sanchez: then
  Katheryn Melle: 'cause
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: you don't always have all left-handers or all right-handers in a family.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: So
  Marx Wittke: I th I think
  Jennifer Sanchez: bu
  Marx Wittke: it's
  Jennifer Sanchez: it's
  Marx Wittke: not
  Jennifer Sanchez: it's not a huge problem,
  Marx Wittke: it's
  Jennifer Sanchez: because
  Marx Wittke: not like
  Jennifer Sanchez: i
  Marilyn Ross: But
  Jennifer Sanchez: i it
  Marx Wittke: it's
  Marilyn Ross: then
  Marx Wittke: a pen.
  Marilyn Ross: then
  Jennifer Sanchez: is operatable.
  Marilyn Ross: I think left-handed people are already used to discrimination
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: anyway, so they just
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, but I mean because it's not like it's a pen, you know, left-handed
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: people can't normally write right-handed, but they can normally do most things right-handed,
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: so I
  Jennifer Sanchez: Right.
  Marx Wittke: would say it's not such a big issue.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah, because
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: I mean anyway, right-handed people would be able to
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: scroll with it, so i
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: if the
  Marx Wittke: I
  Marilyn Ross: majority
  Marx Wittke: mean you can
  Marilyn Ross: are right-handed,
  Marx Wittke: you can use
  Marilyn Ross: it's
  Marx Wittke: your finger
  Marilyn Ross: uh
  Marx Wittke: to to
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: scroll rather than your thumb.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yep.
  Marx Wittke: So I mean that does kind of negate the whole R_S_I_ issue.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Marx Wittke: So maybe we need to put that needs a little bit of investigation, maybe
  Katheryn Melle: Um
  Marx Wittke: give it a five, I would say? What do you what do you all think?
  Katheryn Melle: Six.
  Marilyn Ross: Or maybe
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Marilyn Ross: six, because it's just one one i one
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: among
  Katheryn Melle: I
  Marilyn Ross: the issues,
  Katheryn Melle: think
  Marilyn Ross: I
  Katheryn Melle: I
  Marilyn Ross: mean.
  Katheryn Melle: think
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: for um I mean most people are right-handed, so in in terms of our greatest target group, I think it's pretty good,
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: but
  Jennifer Sanchez: One
  Katheryn Melle: we might
  Jennifer Sanchez: more
  Katheryn Melle: want
  Jennifer Sanchez: thing
  Katheryn Melle: to
  Jennifer Sanchez: is
  Katheryn Melle: flag
  Jennifer Sanchez: that i
  Katheryn Melle: it for management, they want might want to um
  Marx Wittke: Okay.
  Jennifer Sanchez: It
  Katheryn Melle: They
  Jennifer Sanchez: might be a little clumsy when when it opens up, right, so it opens on the side.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: No, yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: So
  Marilyn Ross: but mm but we have it nicely with the hinges
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah
  Marilyn Ross: here yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah
  Marilyn Ross: So
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: I mean
  Marilyn Ross: it
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: So you
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: guys
  Marilyn Ross: won't
  Jennifer Sanchez: can decide
  Marilyn Ross: be a problem,
  Jennifer Sanchez: wh
  Marilyn Ross: it will be
  Jennifer Sanchez: whether
  Marilyn Ross: and it will be it won't be heavy.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Oops.
  Marx Wittke: I th I think the alternative is flipping from the top.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: well
  Jennifer Sanchez: but
  Marilyn Ross: yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: we
  Marilyn Ross: but it's it's
  Jennifer Sanchez: which
  Katheryn Melle: The
  Marilyn Ross: a
  Jennifer Sanchez: makes
  Marilyn Ross: bit
  Katheryn Melle: length
  Marilyn Ross: long.
  Jennifer Sanchez: it kind
  Katheryn Melle: is gonna
  Jennifer Sanchez: of really
  Katheryn Melle: be difficu
  Marilyn Ross: It's a little bit long.
  Jennifer Sanchez: big, yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah
  Marilyn Ross: Well, I mean it can
  Marx Wittke: um
  Marilyn Ross: be opened like this of course
  Marx Wittke: But
  Marilyn Ross: and
  Marx Wittke: you were thinking
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: about making it smaller, yeah?
  Katheryn Melle: Mm.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Uh
  Marx Wittke: Because
  Jennifer Sanchez: this
  Marilyn Ross: S
  Jennifer Sanchez: this
  Marilyn Ross: uh
  Jennifer Sanchez: kind
  Marilyn Ross: slightly
  Jennifer Sanchez: of uh
  Marilyn Ross: smaller.
  Jennifer Sanchez: makes it more and
  Marx Wittke: So you have
  Jennifer Sanchez: two,
  Marx Wittke: to
  Jennifer Sanchez: it
  Marx Wittke: keep
  Jennifer Sanchez: might interfere with the
  Marx Wittke: that side
  Jennifer Sanchez: I_R_
  Marx Wittke: flat.
  Jennifer Sanchez: channel.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah, but if we flip it open only as much as that.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Okay.
  Marx Wittke: So it works like a mobile phone flipping, but y you know, as long as that side's flat, than that will work.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Right.
  Marx Wittke: Okay.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Okay.
  Marx Wittke: Um okay, so C_. Are are we admitting defeat on C_ or are we saying we're gonna stick a locator on the T_V_?
  Katheryn Melle: No,
  Jennifer Sanchez: No,
  Katheryn Melle: we're gonna
  Jennifer Sanchez: we
  Katheryn Melle: put
  Jennifer Sanchez: have
  Katheryn Melle: it like
  Jennifer Sanchez: a locator.
  Katheryn Melle: we've got th there's the locator
  Marx Wittke: There's a locator.
  Katheryn Melle: dot.
  Marx Wittke: Cool,
  Marilyn Ross: Mm
  Marx Wittke: so that
  Marilyn Ross: that
  Marx Wittke: means
  Marilyn Ross: you stick
  Marx Wittke: you need
  Marilyn Ross: on
  Marx Wittke: a
  Marilyn Ross: T_V_.
  Marx Wittke: that
  Katheryn Melle: Mm.
  Marx Wittke: does mean you need a little speaker on it though, doesn't it? To make it beep.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Or
  Marilyn Ross: well
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: a buzzer.
  Marilyn Ross: w but l but the speak sample speaker is included, so it it has some
  Marx Wittke: Okay.
  Marilyn Ross: capacity to mm to do
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: some to
  Marx Wittke: So
  Marilyn Ross: make some sounds, so
  Marx Wittke: that's
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: two, so that's seven, yeah. It's locatable?
  Marilyn Ross: Yep.
  Marx Wittke: Fabulous. D_.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Intuitive, completely intuitive.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah. If uh uh if this means intuitive, if it means the way people kind of are used to finding things and it's
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: I th I think
  Katheryn Melle: I'd
  Marilyn Ross: it's
  Katheryn Melle: say six, 'cause the I mean the the standard layout for numbers is three three three and one, rather than the way you've got it. I really like the way you have it,
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: but it's not the immediate thing that
  Jennifer Sanchez: Intuitive.
  Katheryn Melle: you're used to.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, and I mean
  Katheryn Melle: So
  Marx Wittke: d
  Jennifer Sanchez: And uh even the scroll, it's a it's a new technology so m m
  Katheryn Melle: Might
  Jennifer Sanchez: might
  Katheryn Melle: be
  Jennifer Sanchez: be a little more difficult for people to get used to in the beginni so it is kind of not very intuitive but uh it's a good technology,
  Katheryn Melle: But it
  Jennifer Sanchez: I mean
  Katheryn Melle: and
  Jennifer Sanchez: once
  Katheryn Melle: it's
  Jennifer Sanchez: they
  Katheryn Melle: something
  Jennifer Sanchez: get used
  Katheryn Melle: that
  Jennifer Sanchez: to it.
  Katheryn Melle: they will be experiencing in a lot of different places
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: soon.
  Marx Wittke: So,
  Jennifer Sanchez: So
  Marx Wittke: should
  Jennifer Sanchez: l
  Marx Wittke: we maybe say f a five
  Katheryn Melle: Five?
  Marx Wittke: and say it is intuitive, but it's different, so,
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: do you know, I mean it's obvious how to use it, but you might have to think about it first. So we give that one a five, you
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: think?
  Jennifer Sanchez: okay.
  Katheryn Melle: I'm
  Marx Wittke: Yep.
  Katheryn Melle: happy
  Jennifer Sanchez: I'm
  Katheryn Melle: with five?
  Jennifer Sanchez: gonna
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: give a seven in everything, so.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: I'm glad you're accepting this. It has taken a little while, hasn't it? Um intuitive but
  Marx Wittke: it's really hard to write on those. I just
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Marx Wittke: went a bit mad, didn't I? Um okay, cool, E_, okay. Um I would guess this comes back from this whole B_ thing links in here, so possibly for left-handed. Investigate.
  Katheryn Melle: Yep. But otherwise it's superb.
  Marx Wittke: So, should we give it a six?
  Katheryn Melle: Six.
  Marx Wittke: Six?
  Marilyn Ross: Um uh the ergonom ergonomic design well
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: mm I mean I d uh I dunno, I mean the the repetitive stress things, but then who would be really pushing the buttons so much on the on the remote control anyway,
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah?
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah, unless
  Marilyn Ross: See.
  Jennifer Sanchez: you are a all the time sitting.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: so it's kinda
  Katheryn Melle: Well we've
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: banned
  Marx Wittke: I
  Jennifer Sanchez: I
  Marx Wittke: used
  Katheryn Melle: them
  Jennifer Sanchez: I think
  Katheryn Melle: from
  Marx Wittke: to send
  Jennifer Sanchez: it is
  Marx Wittke: fifty
  Jennifer Sanchez: ergonomic.
  Marx Wittke: texts a day, you know, and I never got repetitive strain injury from
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm
  Marx Wittke: that, so
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: I find it quite hard to believe to be honest.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: And moreover it it has um L_C_D_ and everything, so that
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: uh you know
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: uh we minimise
  Katheryn Melle: it's varied.
  Jennifer Sanchez: the pressing of the buttons anyway.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Okay, so
  Katheryn Melle: Six?
  Marx Wittke: we give that a six, yeah. Okay, F_.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: Voice
  Marilyn Ross: it
  Katheryn Melle: control
  Marilyn Ross: does have
  Katheryn Melle: have seven.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Absolutely.
  Marx Wittke: Hang on, how come it's showing up with the things there but it only had bullet points there? That's
  Katheryn Melle: Ah,
  Marx Wittke: just
  Katheryn Melle: that's the second one. So you must have changed it on this one where it's got score, but not on the previous slide.
  Marx Wittke: Oh okay, cool. Um right, so.
  Jennifer Sanchez: So it has voice control.
  Marx Wittke: Yes, so that's a seven then.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yep.
  Marx Wittke: Um,
  Katheryn Melle: G_
  Marx Wittke: cool.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Anyway
  Marilyn Ross: Technologi
  Katheryn Melle: technologically
  Jennifer Sanchez: it ha
  Katheryn Melle: innovative.
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: well
  Jennifer Sanchez: it's the most sophisticated remote that I ever seen.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: But in terms of the actual technology, none of it is actually new.
  Marilyn Ross: well, which
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: is yeah,
  Marx Wittke: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: it's kind
  Marx Wittke: but
  Marilyn Ross: of
  Marx Wittke: I
  Marilyn Ross: new.
  Marx Wittke: mean you
  Katheryn Melle: All
  Marx Wittke: don't
  Katheryn Melle: of the components have been used in other things before.
  Marilyn Ross: But
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: at
  Jennifer Sanchez: but
  Marilyn Ross: the same
  Jennifer Sanchez: they've been
  Marilyn Ross: time
  Jennifer Sanchez: brought
  Marx Wittke: They're
  Jennifer Sanchez: together
  Marx Wittke: never
  Marilyn Ross: they are all
  Katheryn Melle: But
  Marx Wittke: been
  Jennifer Sanchez: in
  Katheryn Melle: do
  Marx Wittke: used
  Jennifer Sanchez: a remote.
  Marilyn Ross: they are all
  Katheryn Melle: yeah,
  Marx Wittke: i
  Marilyn Ross: relatively new.
  Marx Wittke: they've
  Katheryn Melle: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: never been using remote remote control before I don't think.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah. What do you reckon, five, six?
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, what do you all think?
  Marilyn Ross: Six.
  Marx Wittke: Six?
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: I mean how how far can you go with a remote control, really?
  Marx Wittke: Well, that's
  Marilyn Ross: It
  Marx Wittke: it,
  Marilyn Ross: still
  Marx Wittke: I mean
  Marilyn Ross: has to do what i what it has to do.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, but I mean everything has been used in space before it gets to anyone else really, hasn't it? So, I don't think many
  Katheryn Melle: Space
  Marx Wittke: peop
  Katheryn Melle: remote.
  Marx Wittke: That's it, they can take it with them.
  Katheryn Melle: Put fashion in electronics.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Absolutely.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah, isn't it fashionable? Yeah, sure.
  Jennifer Sanchez: The carrot banana
  Marilyn Ross: It's the maximum
  Jennifer Sanchez: remote.
  Marilyn Ross: fashion.
  Marx Wittke: So, we give it seven,
  Marilyn Ross: Fruit
  Marx Wittke: and
  Marilyn Ross: fruit
  Marx Wittke: we write
  Marilyn Ross: and vegetables are fashionable these days, so.
  Marx Wittke: There we go.
  Marilyn Ross: So
  Jennifer Sanchez: I
  Marilyn Ross: I think
  Jennifer Sanchez: think that's
  Marilyn Ross: we've
  Jennifer Sanchez: a.
  Marilyn Ross: done very well, but
  Marx Wittke: Cool.
  Katheryn Melle: Very good.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: What's the assessment?
  Marx Wittke: So, we need the average here, so we got
  Marilyn Ross: The average is about six and something.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: A little bit over
  Katheryn Melle: one.
  Marilyn Ross: six.
  Marx Wittke: Seven
  Katheryn Melle: Or a seven.
  Jennifer Sanchez: There are how many sixes?
  Marilyn Ross: No,
  Marx Wittke: So we've
  Marilyn Ross: wait,
  Marx Wittke: got
  Jennifer Sanchez: One,
  Marx Wittke: four
  Marilyn Ross: a
  Marx Wittke: sevens,
  Jennifer Sanchez: two,
  Marilyn Ross: little bit under
  Jennifer Sanchez: three.
  Marilyn Ross: six.
  Marx Wittke: so that's twenty
  Marilyn Ross: No, wait.
  Marx Wittke: eight,
  Jennifer Sanchez: Three.
  Marx Wittke: three sixes,
  Jennifer Sanchez: And one five.
  Marx Wittke: eighteen.
  Marilyn Ross: Oh, three sixes, okay,
  Katheryn Melle: Fifty
  Jennifer Sanchez: Okay,
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: twenty
  Katheryn Melle: one,
  Jennifer Sanchez: eight, thirty
  Katheryn Melle: one,
  Jennifer Sanchez: eight,
  Katheryn Melle: two,
  Jennifer Sanchez: fo
  Katheryn Melle: three, four,
  Jennifer Sanchez: forty
  Marilyn Ross: Four
  Katheryn Melle: five,
  Marilyn Ross: sevens.
  Katheryn Melle: six,
  Jennifer Sanchez: six.
  Katheryn Melle: seven, eight.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Forty six and five,
  Katheryn Melle: Six
  Jennifer Sanchez: fifty one.
  Katheryn Melle: point
  Jennifer Sanchez: Fifty one divided
  Marilyn Ross: Six
  Jennifer Sanchez: by
  Marilyn Ross: point something,
  Katheryn Melle: point
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Two
  Katheryn Melle: about
  Marx Wittke: three
  Katheryn Melle: six point five.
  Marilyn Ross: Six
  Marx Wittke: four
  Marilyn Ross: point five,
  Marx Wittke: Seven
  Katheryn Melle: Close
  Marx Wittke: eight.
  Katheryn Melle: enough.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Okay, that's pretty good, I think.
  Katheryn Melle: Now wait until we get to finance and then we'll see if we can afford it. That's all you've got at the moment, or did you have anything more?
  Marx Wittke: Um no, that's
  Katheryn Melle: That's
  Marx Wittke: it,
  Katheryn Melle: it?
  Marx Wittke: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Alright. So, finance. And we'll see if we can unscrew this first.
  Marx Wittke: Cool,
  Katheryn Melle: Sorry, this
  Marx Wittke: there
  Katheryn Melle: is
  Marx Wittke: we go.
  Katheryn Melle: I'm just um
  Marx Wittke: There we go and there are the marks.
  Katheryn Melle: Beautiful.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Not anymore.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm I guess it'll have to wait for a bit.
  Katheryn Melle: Adjusting. There we go. Okay, so we've looked at the prototype presentation and the evaluation criteria. And now we have to calculate the production costs. So I've got an Excel spreadsheet to help us do that. Can you read that? Almost. More or less. Um I started filling it in, but of course these are provisional, so we have to go down. No hand dynamo, right?
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: One simple
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Katheryn Melle: battery. No kinetic energy, no solar. The chip, we're going for an advanced
  Jennifer Sanchez: Advanced,
  Katheryn Melle: chip
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: on print. We also said the sample sensor and sample speaker.
  Marilyn Ross: Yep.
  Katheryn Melle: Um single-curved surface, so that
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: we can fold
  Marilyn Ross: yes.
  Katheryn Melle: it. Case material we said rubber.
  Marilyn Ross: Rubber.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yep.
  Katheryn Melle: I don't know what special colour means.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm anything uh I think which
  Marilyn Ross: I
  Jennifer Sanchez: is
  Marilyn Ross: think
  Jennifer Sanchez: not
  Marilyn Ross: something
  Jennifer Sanchez: more.
  Marilyn Ross: coloured, yeah, probably. So I think this is probably special co
  Katheryn Melle: It
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: no?
  Katheryn Melle: could be
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, but rubber comes coloured,
  Katheryn Melle: Rub
  Marx Wittke: doesn't
  Katheryn Melle: rubber
  Marx Wittke: it? You
  Katheryn Melle: comes
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: know.
  Katheryn Melle: coloured, it's I would maybe it's like if you want titanium coloured or wood
  Marilyn Ross: Or
  Katheryn Melle: coloured,
  Marilyn Ross: maybe
  Katheryn Melle: it's
  Marilyn Ross: maybe
  Katheryn Melle: different.
  Marilyn Ross: if you want some kind of pattern thing on it,
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: yeah
  Katheryn Melle: let's leave
  Marilyn Ross: yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: it as zero,
  Marilyn Ross: okay.
  Katheryn Melle: 'cause it's easy.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, you might end up having to take off
  Katheryn Melle: We
  Marx Wittke: the
  Katheryn Melle: we're definitely going to
  Marilyn Ross: We
  Katheryn Melle: have
  Marilyn Ross: have
  Katheryn Melle: to
  Marilyn Ross: pushbuttons,
  Katheryn Melle: so
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Katheryn Melle: we've
  Marx Wittke: sample
  Katheryn Melle: got pushbutton,
  Marx Wittke: sensor.
  Katheryn Melle: and then
  Marilyn Ross: scro
  Katheryn Melle: we've
  Marilyn Ross: we have scroll wheel as well.
  Katheryn Melle: Scroll wheel with pushbutton we had, no? S for
  Marilyn Ross: S
  Jennifer Sanchez: No
  Katheryn Melle: the muting.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: uh we
  Marilyn Ross: yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: we
  Marilyn Ross: we had,
  Jennifer Sanchez: have uh
  Marilyn Ross: for muting,
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: And we have L_C_ display and yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: And button supplements.
  Marilyn Ross: Um
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm no.
  Marx Wittke: No.
  Jennifer Sanchez: We
  Katheryn Melle: No.
  Jennifer Sanchez: don't have we're not using any
  Katheryn Melle: No?
  Jennifer Sanchez: of
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: that.
  Marilyn Ross: but what do we ha we have L_C_ display, but but the wh
  Katheryn Melle: But
  Marilyn Ross: but
  Katheryn Melle: the
  Marilyn Ross: the
  Katheryn Melle: the
  Marilyn Ross: s
  Katheryn Melle: spinning wheel's
  Marilyn Ross: spinning
  Katheryn Melle: not
  Marilyn Ross: wheel
  Katheryn Melle: there. I have think
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: maybe it's integrated with the L_C_ display?
  Marilyn Ross: Okay,
  Marx Wittke: We've got
  Marilyn Ross: let's
  Marx Wittke: more than one pushbutton though,
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: haven't we?
  Katheryn Melle: I think the pushbutton oh.
  Marx Wittke: 'Cause then you have
  Katheryn Melle: I don't know if that's one
  Marx Wittke: That means you can only have twenty five push buttons in total doesn't it? Not counting anything, we'd
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: still be in budget.
  Katheryn Melle: That seems unlikely. Push
  Jennifer Sanchez: Huh? Wh wh what
  Katheryn Melle: what
  Jennifer Sanchez: is the limit?
  Katheryn Melle: uh
  Jennifer Sanchez: Uh.
  Marx Wittke: Twelve
  Katheryn Melle: whether
  Marx Wittke: point five.
  Katheryn Melle: whether pushbutton means that
  Marilyn Ross: We have to count
  Katheryn Melle: p
  Marilyn Ross: all
  Katheryn Melle: count
  Marilyn Ross: of them, or
  Katheryn Melle: by
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: button or do
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm
  Katheryn Melle: we
  Jennifer Sanchez: I
  Katheryn Melle: I
  Jennifer Sanchez: don't
  Katheryn Melle: don't think
  Jennifer Sanchez: think
  Katheryn Melle: that
  Jennifer Sanchez: so,
  Katheryn Melle: makes sense.
  Jennifer Sanchez: no.
  Marx Wittke: No. Well
  Jennifer Sanchez: No
  Marx Wittke: it doesn't,
  Jennifer Sanchez: it says
  Marx Wittke: but it
  Jennifer Sanchez: what what is the kind
  Marx Wittke: uh
  Katheryn Melle: No.
  Jennifer Sanchez: of interface, if it is pushbutton then you got a zero point five, it's a scroll wheel so we we've put it's pushbutton and
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: scroll wheel
  Marx Wittke: And
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: and L_C_D_
  Marx Wittke: L_C_
  Jennifer Sanchez: display,
  Marx Wittke: display.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: so that's that's the three kind of interfaces
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: that we have.
  Katheryn Melle: So, as we can see, that's way too expensive down here.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Wh wh what's
  Marx Wittke: This
  Jennifer Sanchez: our
  Marx Wittke: sample
  Jennifer Sanchez: criteria?
  Katheryn Melle: Our budget's
  Marx Wittke: sensor.
  Katheryn Melle: twelve point five.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Uh okay.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, the sample sensor will have to go, 'cause that's the most expensive thing
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: on there.
  Katheryn Melle: so that has implications though for the.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Uh it does not have for voice recognition, but it does have for the feedback speaker. when you
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: say when you press one it says
  Katheryn Melle: For the
  Jennifer Sanchez: one
  Katheryn Melle: locator.
  Jennifer Sanchez: or it says hello.
  Marx Wittke: But that's a bit of a gimmick anyway really,
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: isn't
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm
  Marx Wittke: it? We can afford
  Jennifer Sanchez: and
  Marx Wittke: to get
  Jennifer Sanchez: the
  Marx Wittke: rid
  Jennifer Sanchez: locator
  Marx Wittke: of it.
  Jennifer Sanchez: also goes away.
  Marilyn Ross: But it was very no innovative
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: So that
  Marilyn Ross: innovativeness.
  Marx Wittke: means no locator,
  Marilyn Ross: Well um
  Marx Wittke: does it?
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: I mean does
  Katheryn Melle: What else
  Marilyn Ross: Well
  Katheryn Melle: does
  Marilyn Ross: the speaker
  Katheryn Melle: it need?
  Marilyn Ross: uh the sample speaker is is expensive, but we could just have some some very very easy device that just beeps.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah, 'cause the sample
  Marilyn Ross: This would
  Katheryn Melle: speaker
  Marilyn Ross: be
  Katheryn Melle: was, I think, more complicated then
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: just a beeping
  Marilyn Ross: yeah
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah
  Katheryn Melle: thing.
  Marilyn Ross: there you record your samples
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: your speech samples
  Katheryn Melle: okay,
  Jennifer Sanchez: A also
  Marilyn Ross: and
  Katheryn Melle: so
  Jennifer Sanchez: i
  Katheryn Melle: we
  Jennifer Sanchez: in the case I'm not sure that you will evaluate this as a curved surface, because it's just rubber, so it's probably a flat surface rubber. Uh I mean
  Katheryn Melle: Uh-huh.
  Jennifer Sanchez: uh um
  Marx Wittke: Okay, yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Right,
  Jennifer Sanchez: Um
  Katheryn Melle: so we need one fifty off.
  Marx Wittke: See, I was gonna say the scroll wheel pushbutton thing, 'cause
  Katheryn Melle: Take it down to just a scroll wheel. We could
  Jennifer Sanchez: So
  Katheryn Melle: do
  Jennifer Sanchez: tha that mean that we cannot press
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: how
  Marilyn Ross: then
  Jennifer Sanchez: do we how
  Marilyn Ross: then
  Jennifer Sanchez: do
  Marilyn Ross: we
  Jennifer Sanchez: we
  Marilyn Ross: would
  Jennifer Sanchez: make
  Marilyn Ross: be
  Jennifer Sanchez: a selection
  Marilyn Ross: in the b budget.
  Jennifer Sanchez: in uh in the L_C_D_? If in the L_C_D_ we can scroll, right? But how do we make a selection if we d
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah
  Jennifer Sanchez: cannot
  Marilyn Ross: b
  Jennifer Sanchez: push
  Marilyn Ross: no
  Jennifer Sanchez: the button.
  Marilyn Ross: no, you can push this one, but we don't have a pushbutton uh we ca we don't have this muting mechanism for this scrolling
  Marx Wittke: But
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: that's
  Marilyn Ross: thing.
  Marx Wittke: well you would just have to to spin
  Katheryn Melle: You can
  Marx Wittke: it down.
  Katheryn Melle: have to scroll it straight r roll it straight down for
  Marilyn Ross: Mm-hmm.
  Katheryn Melle: for mute.
  Marx Wittke: So
  Jennifer Sanchez: No w
  Marx Wittke: that's
  Jennifer Sanchez: w
  Marx Wittke: point
  Jennifer Sanchez: w
  Marx Wittke: three.
  Jennifer Sanchez: but ha it's it's the scroll wheel and I thought we were referring to this as a scroll spinning wheel and pushbutton thing.
  Marilyn Ross: But I mean we can put an additional mute button on the top as well. If you
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, I mean that wouldn't actually cost any more. That's the spin wheel though, isn't it? Didn't that come with the L_C_
  Katheryn Melle: That's with the L_C_
  Jennifer Sanchez: That comes with the L_C_D_?
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: We decided, 'cause it's not on our list.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Oh so
  Marilyn Ross: Mm.
  Jennifer Sanchez: so the the this is.
  Katheryn Melle: The scroll wheel is on the side.
  Jennifer Sanchez: So we're adding costs for right, okay uh I mean I think this is good.
  Marilyn Ross: So
  Marx Wittke: S so we're point three
  Katheryn Melle: We're
  Marx Wittke: over.
  Katheryn Melle: point three over at the moment. It's nothing
  Marx Wittke: Unless
  Katheryn Melle: n
  Marx Wittke: we just take off the scroll wheel altogether and just have pushbuttons for the volume. Could b still put them on the side. But
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: yeah. I mean
  Katheryn Melle: I
  Marx Wittke: the
  Katheryn Melle: have
  Marx Wittke: scroll wheel's pretty cool, but
  Jennifer Sanchez: Instead of scrolling here we have two buttons here,
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: up for up and down.
  Marilyn Ross: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: On the side.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm uh it
  Marilyn Ross: Okay,
  Jennifer Sanchez: sounds good actually, yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Rather than having three different things that people have to do.
  Marilyn Ross: Okay.
  Katheryn Melle: There we go. Oh look, we're way under budget and we'll make huge profits and we'll all get bonuses.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, well we could admit to the single curve, couldn't we?
  Katheryn Melle: Or or that we have to have some sort of special colour.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: So
  Marx Wittke: but
  Katheryn Melle: that's alright. We we'll leave it at that
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: and then I'll take I can send it back to management and say we weren't quite sure about the colour, if that costs extra then we've still got some space for
  Jennifer Sanchez: We
  Katheryn Melle: it,
  Jennifer Sanchez: have, yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Excellent. Alright. So did we lose um on our evaluation criteria, as a result
  Marx Wittke: No.
  Katheryn Melle: of doing that?
  Marx Wittke: No, I don't
  Jennifer Sanchez: Not
  Marx Wittke: think so.
  Jennifer Sanchez: really, no. Because we keep all the features, we keep voice recognition, we keep L_C_D_
  Katheryn Melle: Mm.
  Jennifer Sanchez: display.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: We
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: instead of having scrolling we we just
  Marx Wittke: We just
  Jennifer Sanchez: push
  Marx Wittke: got
  Jennifer Sanchez: the buttons.
  Marx Wittke: rid of a gimmick that
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Um
  Marx Wittke: was never anyway, and
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: the scroll wheel is I mean essentially the two buttons that was it's not a great difference I don't
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: think.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Alright then.
  Jennifer Sanchez: But we lose the locator.
  Marx Wittke: Really?
  Katheryn Melle: We're
  Marilyn Ross: Well
  Katheryn Melle: gonna have a beep.
  Marilyn Ross: we're going to have a beeping thing.
  Jennifer Sanchez: So instead of speaker,
  Marilyn Ross: But yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: it's it's not like sample speaker, but it will just beep, so we still have the locate.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: 'Kay.
  Marx Wittke: Cool. That's not a very exciting colour. I think you should make it more vegetable-like.
  Marilyn Ross: Which colour,
  Katheryn Melle: Tha.
  Marilyn Ross: the the colour of the phone or the colour of the
  Marx Wittke: Oh the the beeper thing.
  Marilyn Ross: But
  Marx Wittke: It
  Marilyn Ross: it can be yellow as well. It can come in the same colour as the
  Katheryn Melle: 'Cause
  Marilyn Ross: the
  Katheryn Melle: we
  Marilyn Ross: case.
  Katheryn Melle: we won't have run out of our pot of Play-Doh.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, I think Jen wants it to vibrate. You know, your pen
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: vibrates?
  Katheryn Melle: I know I
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: know, my pen vibrates. But only for a very short time. Um okay. So looks like we've designed a banana. Well done, team. Um we need we've just got about ten minutes or so left of the meeting, so it would be good if we could just have a little talk about the project itself and how it went, um so that we can feed back to the management for next time they're designing a product.
  Marx Wittke: Cool.
  Katheryn Melle: Feedback?
  Jennifer Sanchez: I think it mm
  Katheryn Melle: Ideas?
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah mm, as far as creativity is concerned, yeah I think there was there was room for creativity. The only the only problem being that at the end we had to cut some things down because
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: of the the budget we had.
  Jennifer Sanchez: I think uh n one thing that was lacking uh was that we did not know what the various things cost to begin with.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Um we kap kept a adding things randomly.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: So,
  Marx Wittke: If
  Jennifer Sanchez: had
  Marx Wittke: we'd
  Jennifer Sanchez: we
  Marx Wittke: had
  Jennifer Sanchez: known
  Marx Wittke: that sheet at the beginning should've been like, okay, so
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: we can have that lot,
  Jennifer Sanchez: that
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Jennifer Sanchez: or not,
  Marx Wittke: let's
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: just
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: throw it together
  Marilyn Ross: yeah,
  Marx Wittke: and
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: do what
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: we can.
  Jennifer Sanchez: So d all the random decisions at the end could have been
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: prevented. Mm.
  Katheryn Melle: But in terms of the process of um going and working individually and then coming back to a meeting, that
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: that worked
  Jennifer Sanchez: mm.
  Marx Wittke: I think 'cause
  Katheryn Melle: in terms
  Marx Wittke: the meetings
  Katheryn Melle: of.
  Marx Wittke: were so regular, you know.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: It wasn't like we were alone for very long, so you didn't st go off and think, wouldn't it be great to have a vibrating
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm. Banana.
  Marx Wittke: remote control shaped like a banana, and then, you know, come back three days later and Jen's
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: going look, look, it vibrates and it looks like a banana. Um yeah, so yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah, the m the means were very very good, the means we used.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm, the whiteboard digital
  Marilyn Ross: And
  Katheryn Melle: pens.
  Marilyn Ross: the pens.
  Marx Wittke: Uh
  Katheryn Melle: We like
  Marx Wittke: I like the
  Katheryn Melle: the
  Marx Wittke: pens.
  Katheryn Melle: pens.
  Marx Wittke: I want one. That would just be so cool, to d do all your notes and s
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah, you could take it to lectures and just write stuff down
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah
  Katheryn Melle: and have it printed out
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah
  Katheryn Melle: when you
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: got back
  Jennifer Sanchez: yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: to the
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: office.
  Jennifer Sanchez: that's it's it's
  Katheryn Melle: They great?
  Jennifer Sanchez: I wonder what one of these costs.
  Katheryn Melle: Do you think they'd notice if one went?
  Marx Wittke: I don't think you should say that was the recording.
  Katheryn Melle: Oh okay.
  Marx Wittke: Okay, cover up the microphone. Alright,
  Katheryn Melle: Yep.
  Marx Wittke: let's
  Katheryn Melle: Shh.
  Marx Wittke: take it.
  Katheryn Melle: Yep.
  Marx Wittke: Okay.
  Katheryn Melle: But that worked well having having a whiteboard that we could draw on as well as having the PowerPoint, 'cause the I find that the problem with PowerPoint often is that it's so static and you can't change
  Marx Wittke: It
  Katheryn Melle: it
  Marx Wittke: is
  Katheryn Melle: once
  Marx Wittke: a bit
  Katheryn Melle: you're
  Marx Wittke: limiting,
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: in
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: there,
  Marx Wittke: isn't it? Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: yep.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah, and and and this time also the time limits but actually
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: preparing the
  Marx Wittke: The
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: thing flew in, you didn't have the whole whooshing thing,
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: 'cause there wasn't time for that, so
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: That's alright, that always irritates
  Marx Wittke: Not
  Katheryn Melle: Marx Wittke
  Marx Wittke: that you
  Katheryn Melle: anyway,
  Marx Wittke: can do that on the board, either.
  Katheryn Melle: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: We could make some little
  Marilyn Ross: But yeah, but I mean already just just preparing the slides before
  Marx Wittke: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: before
  Marx Wittke: totally,
  Marilyn Ross: the meeting,
  Marx Wittke: I mean that was
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: fairly tight anyway,
  Katheryn Melle: Mm.
  Marx Wittke: I mean especially with that last-minute alteration.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm yeah.
  Marx Wittke: back it, this is just had to be changed. And yeah, so cool.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Are we supposed to say nice things about Jen now?
  Katheryn Melle: And presumably you don't you can say nasty things as well.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah. I was
  Katheryn Melle: I have
  Marilyn Ross: I was
  Katheryn Melle: no
  Marilyn Ross: satisfied
  Katheryn Melle: stake in it.
  Marilyn Ross: with with
  Marx Wittke: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: the leadership,
  Marx Wittke: definitely.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: You weren't
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Marx Wittke: like a a dictating leader, so that was always good.
  Katheryn Melle: You have to say that, 'cause I'm taking the notes.
  Marilyn Ross: Mm-hmm.
  Katheryn Melle: I'll leave the room and you can
  Marx Wittke: I
  Katheryn Melle: have
  Marx Wittke: know
  Katheryn Melle: another
  Marx Wittke: you've got
  Katheryn Melle: go.
  Marx Wittke: the pen, you might attack Marx Wittke with
  Katheryn Melle: Better
  Marilyn Ross: And then
  Katheryn Melle: than
  Marilyn Ross: the
  Katheryn Melle: that
  Marilyn Ross: teamwork
  Marx Wittke: it.
  Katheryn Melle: than the banana.
  Marilyn Ross: I think I think it worked quite
  Katheryn Melle: I think it
  Marilyn Ross: quite
  Katheryn Melle: worked
  Marilyn Ross: nicely,
  Katheryn Melle: quite well.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: Did anyone feel that they were getting sort of covered up and not being able to say
  Marilyn Ross: To express
  Katheryn Melle: their bit?
  Marilyn Ross: them mm
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Marilyn Ross: mm
  Jennifer Sanchez: I guess
  Marilyn Ross: no.
  Jennifer Sanchez: it was a fairly small group, so all of us got
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: to express our opinions, yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: New ideas found. Not
  Marilyn Ross: Well
  Katheryn Melle: quite
  Marilyn Ross: it's
  Katheryn Melle: sure
  Marilyn Ross: it's
  Katheryn Melle: what
  Marilyn Ross: it's
  Katheryn Melle: about.
  Marilyn Ross: pretty new,
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: pretty
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm.
  Marilyn Ross: novel solution for a for a remote control really, all this flipping
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: open thing and
  Marx Wittke: I don't know, I don't go shopping for remote controls that
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: often, maybe somebody's
  Marilyn Ross: neither neither do
  Marx Wittke: already
  Marilyn Ross: I, but I've
  Marx Wittke: though
  Marilyn Ross: never
  Marx Wittke: of
  Marilyn Ross: seen
  Marx Wittke: it.
  Marilyn Ross: anything and and none of my examples were was was like this, actually,
  Katheryn Melle: Mm-hmm.
  Marilyn Ross: so.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Hmm.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah. I'll be looking out next time I need
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah,
  Marx Wittke: to write
  Katheryn Melle: that's
  Marx Wittke: an essay.
  Katheryn Melle: right.
  Marx Wittke: That looks boring, I'll see if anyone's
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah maybe
  Marx Wittke: made
  Marilyn Ross: w
  Marx Wittke: a
  Marilyn Ross: maybe we
  Marx Wittke: remote
  Marilyn Ross: could have
  Marx Wittke: control.
  Marilyn Ross: a patent on this one.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marx Wittke: yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Patent patent patent.
  Katheryn Melle: Banana
  Marx Wittke: I think we'd
  Katheryn Melle: remote.
  Marx Wittke: like to
  Marilyn Ross: Mm.
  Marx Wittke: think the ideas were new, but we've got no way of finding out.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Mm-hmm.
  Katheryn Melle: Or you can always go to Google and type in banana remote control.
  Marx Wittke: That
  Katheryn Melle: Flip.
  Marx Wittke: vibrates
  Katheryn Melle: Vibrate. And uh yeah.
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, but that would just come up with like other things really
  Katheryn Melle: Nothing
  Marx Wittke: wouldn't it.
  Katheryn Melle: that you really want. True. Yeah. Okay. So, costs are within budget,
  Marilyn Ross: Yes.
  Marx Wittke: Yes.
  Katheryn Melle: well within budget, including a little what have we got? One Euro left over for bits that we didn't foresee. Um we've evaluated
  Marilyn Ross: Yes.
  Katheryn Melle: the project. You've
  Marx Wittke: And it's fabulous.
  Katheryn Melle: got the scores. Can you put that in the project documents file?
  Marx Wittke: It's in the project
  Katheryn Melle: It's in
  Marx Wittke: documents.
  Katheryn Melle: there already. And the process wheel didn't really have any major problems with. Were there any was there anything that you found difficult, or anything that didn't go as smoothly as you'd
  Marilyn Ross: And
  Katheryn Melle: hope?
  Marilyn Ross: my main difficulty was the the time pressure.
  Katheryn Melle: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Otherwise
  Marx Wittke: Yeah,
  Marilyn Ross: it's
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm-hmm.
  Marx Wittke: yeah, sometimes
  Marilyn Ross: it's all fine.
  Marx Wittke: it's like a little bit rushed.
  Jennifer Sanchez: I thought that was good though, because if you're given too much time
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: then you got nothing
  Marilyn Ross: yeah,
  Jennifer Sanchez: to do with your time and
  Marilyn Ross: yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: um yeah. Although we could have made the R_s better had we had
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Jennifer Sanchez: five more minute.
  Katheryn Melle: Okay then. Um I think we're still well within our
  Marx Wittke: Yeah, we've got like
  Katheryn Melle: time.
  Marx Wittke: five minutes left.
  Katheryn Melle: We've got about five minutes left, but if we've finished, then we've finished.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: We're just too too efficient and
  Jennifer Sanchez: We certainly
  Marx Wittke: Yeah.
  Katheryn Melle: you should
  Jennifer Sanchez: are,
  Katheryn Melle: never
  Jennifer Sanchez: mm.
  Katheryn Melle: drag a meeting on just because you have extra time.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah.
  Marilyn Ross: Yes.
  Katheryn Melle: So I would say that's the end of that meeting.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: Thank
  Marx Wittke: 'Kay.
  Marilyn Ross: it
  Katheryn Melle: you,
  Marilyn Ross: was a
  Katheryn Melle: team.
  Marilyn Ross: pleasure working with you.
  Katheryn Melle: It was
  Jennifer Sanchez: Yeah, same here.
  Katheryn Melle: very productive day
  Marx Wittke: We
  Katheryn Melle: and
  Marx Wittke: could draw animals on the board again.
  Jennifer Sanchez: Mm uh no.
  Katheryn Melle: Mm uh
  Jennifer Sanchez: I don't
  Katheryn Melle: no.
  Jennifer Sanchez: think so.
  Marilyn Ross: You can make some animals.
  Marx Wittke: I
  Marilyn Ross: Oh,
  Marx Wittke: don't
  Marilyn Ross: you
  Marx Wittke: like
  Marilyn Ross: don't
  Marx Wittke: Play-Doh,
  Marilyn Ross: like
  Marx Wittke: no.
  Marilyn Ross: anim
  Marx Wittke: It's just minging. It smells so bad.
  Marilyn Ross: It doesn't?
  Marx Wittke: It
  Marilyn Ross: Smells
  Marx Wittke: does.
  Marilyn Ross: quite nice. Smells very sweet.
  Marx Wittke: Mm.
  Katheryn Melle: Right, so we have to complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary when they
  Jennifer Sanchez: Was there a
  Katheryn Melle: send
  Jennifer Sanchez: questionnaire
  Katheryn Melle: it.
  Jennifer Sanchez: already sent?
  Katheryn Melle: I don't know if it's already sent or
  Marx Wittke: No,
  Katheryn Melle: not.
  Marx Wittke: it hasn't been.
  Katheryn Melle: Um presumably I
  Marx Wittke: Do
  Katheryn Melle: have
  Marx Wittke: we have
  Katheryn Melle: to
  Marx Wittke: to go back into the other room or can we stay in here now?
  Katheryn Melle: I don't see why you can't stay here, really.
  Marx Wittke: Okay, so the other way.
  Katheryn Melle: Did I save this one? Production costs.
  Marilyn Ross: I made your animal for you.
  Katheryn Melle: It was supposed to be pink.
  Marilyn Ross: Yeah,
  Katheryn Melle: But
  Marilyn Ross: that's
  Katheryn Melle: it was blue
  Marilyn Ross: the
  Katheryn Melle: on
  Marilyn Ross: one
  Katheryn Melle: the board.
Updated Content: Katheryn Melle opens this detailed design meeting by going over the agenda. The designers present the prototype, which they decided to make the color and shape of a banana. They demonstrate the remote components, showing how it flips open on the side and features a LCD and scroll inside. Marx Wittke gives the product evaluation, which is based on the criteria of attractiveness, whether it matches operation behavior of the user, locatability, intuitiveness, ergonomic design, and how technologically innovative it is. They rate the product using a 7 point scale and come up with an average score of 6.5. The group goes on to calculate the production cost and finds they are over the budget. They have discussion and decide to eliminate the sample speaker locator and the scroll wheel inside. The team discusses the project process- saying that they had to cut out some creativity in order to meet the budget because they had not known the cost of features beforehand. They were satisfied with the leadership but felt rushed for time. They finish the meeting 5 minutes early and Katheryn Melle tells them what is left to complete.