Extracted Content: Dan Martinez: Okay, all set? Welcome
  Joseph Johnson: Uh,
  Jose Bounds: Yes.
  Joseph Johnson: okay.
  Dan Martinez: to the conceptual design meeting. The agenda. The opening. I'll again be the secretary and make minutes, take minutes, uh and it will be three presentations, just like the last meeting. So um, who wants to start off? Technical uh designer again?
  Joseph Johnson: Again.
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joseph Johnson: Hmm.
  Dan Martinez: Uh, yeah. Uh, before we begin it, I want to say I've I've put the minutes of the uh second meeting in the shared folder, but they're still not uh quite okay. It uh it uh still some technical difficulties so the
  Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm.
  Dan Martinez: the first part of the minutes are very hard to read, because there are two documents that uh were layered over each other.
  Joshua Hart: Okay.
  Dan Martinez: So But uh, from now on I won't use my pen anymore, so will be p just ordinary
  Joseph Johnson: Uh,
  Dan Martinez: keyboard.
  Joseph Johnson: may be better, yeah.
  Joshua Hart: Keyboard work.
  Dan Martinez: I
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: think it will will be more uh easy
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: for you to read the minutes.
  Joshua Hart: Alright.
  Jose Bounds: Okay, when we talk about uh design, um it's really about the material and the and uh uh really the we build uh the remote controls of. Um, a remote control consist of uh components and the components of a remote control consist of uh properties and material. We have to choose th uh these uh wisely and it could affect uh uh a kind of grow of in uh in buying uh the remote controls. Um, the components of a remote control are of course the case Uh the properties of the case, um it has to be solid uh in hard material like uh hard plastic uh with soft rubber for uh falling and and uh uh yeah, it feels uh good in your hand. Mm the buttons has to be uh solid too, and the material is soft rubber. Uh I've got a uh email from the possibilities of Real Reaction. Um uh they're telling Joshua Hart that um when we build uh a remote control of um of plastic or rubber, the uh buttons have to be uh rubber too. Mm It's okay. Yeah. I when we use a rubbled a doubled curved case, we must use a rubber push-buttons to uh the the rubber double-curved case is a is a t uh three-dimensional uh curve in the in the design, which is uh necessary when we want to be trendy. Uh Um
  Joseph Johnson: Oh.
  Jose Bounds: the energy source, uh I've got a lot of possibilities for that too. Um, uh the basic battery, which I thi prefer because of its uh its non uh non-depending of of of uh um Uh here you have to have a hand uh yeah, kinetic uh energy. Also in uh this one, like in the watches, but a remote control can lie on a table for a day, and then you push uh a button and so you don't have to uh walk with it all the all the time. Mm, solar cells are also uh a bit weird for uh remote controls. Um uh also the case material, uh I think that plastic is the is the best with rubber, because uh wood or titanium would also be a bit weird.
  Joseph Johnson: Oh titanium is probably trendy, I think.
  Joshua Hart: That's true, I guess. Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: Well, maybe a little bit expensive. I don't know.
  Joshua Hart: Huh.
  Jose Bounds: Uh, they don't tell anything about the cost of uh titanium. Um the chip uh the chip set uh and the board is uh all off the shelf. Also, the speaker in the remote control, when we want to retrieve it. Um, the base station is also off the shelf, all the materials and the components are uh just available in uh in our uh factory. Mm, I've told about uh the three first points. Mm, the simple electronical chip uh is is available uh with the LED transmitter uh transmitter. Uh, it's all uh off the shelf and even the speaker and the wireless retriever are all uh available in our company. Um, another possibility. I uh yeah, I looked up on was uh the L_C_D_ displays. Could be uh something special to our uh remote control, and it's possible, but it only cost a bit more, but maybe it can be uh within the limits of twenty five Euros.
  Dan Martinez: Twelve and a half.
  Jose Bounds: Ah yeah.
  Dan Martinez: Actually
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah, production cost.
  Jose Bounds: I th I got an email with uh some examples and it these were were the most trendiest one. You see uh a covers, which can be
  Dan Martinez: What are those, t tooth uh brushes,
  Jose Bounds: Um,
  Dan Martinez: or so
  Jose Bounds: I don't know. Um
  Dan Martinez: But it's actually kind
  Joseph Johnson: I
  Dan Martinez: of uh well, it resembles the design I had
  Jose Bounds: Yes.
  Dan Martinez: in mind for this
  Joshua Hart: Yep.
  Dan Martinez: proj You know the the cartoonish Alessi kind of design.
  Jose Bounds: Yes, maybe we can uh bri uh bring a couple of uh
  Dan Martinez: And we can we can steal
  Jose Bounds: couple
  Dan Martinez: their
  Jose Bounds: of
  Dan Martinez: ideas.
  Jose Bounds: types of uh maybe a kind of uh whole uh um a whole set of uh different uh remote controls. Maybe we can
  Dan Martinez: Huh.
  Jose Bounds: bring a whole line uh with uh with a huge variety of uh
  Dan Martinez: Well,
  Jose Bounds: uh house
  Dan Martinez: it's
  Joseph Johnson: Different
  Dan Martinez: a possibility,
  Jose Bounds: uh stuff.
  Joseph Johnson: colours
  Dan Martinez: too.
  Joseph Johnson: also.
  Jose Bounds: Like uh maybe radios and uh television
  Dan Martinez: Uh-uh.
  Jose Bounds: also uh in this in this in the same style, but
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, that'll
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joshua Hart: be for the future, I guess.
  Jose Bounds: Yes, because we have to uh
  Dan Martinez: Next time we're here.
  Jose Bounds: we have
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: to we have to bring the logo and all the stuff
  Dan Martinez: Oh,
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Dan Martinez: okay.
  Jose Bounds: back into it.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah. Definitely.
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Jose Bounds: Thank
  Joshua Hart: Alright.
  Jose Bounds: you.
  Joseph Johnson: Okay. uh
  Joshua Hart: Yeah. That's okay.
  Joseph Johnson: Ah.
  Joseph Johnson: Well, I shall go to the next slide. Um um, I still don't have any information about user requirements. I was about just uh the basic functions and I got
  Dan Martinez: Oh, we
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Dan Martinez: decided upon that in the last meeting.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: Didn't
  Joseph Johnson: but
  Dan Martinez: we?
  Joseph Johnson: but then wh I don't know when there are new user requirements.
  Dan Martinez: Oh, okay.
  Joseph Johnson: I ha I
  Dan Martinez: Well,
  Joseph Johnson: ha
  Dan Martinez: tha
  Joseph Johnson: I
  Dan Martinez: I didn't
  Joseph Johnson: have the
  Dan Martinez: receive
  Joseph Johnson: I
  Dan Martinez: any
  Joseph Johnson: have
  Dan Martinez: new requirements or somethi Just
  Joseph Johnson: nothing.
  Dan Martinez: no, but we decided to use only b basic functions only.
  Joseph Johnson: Well, I have here a couple of basic functions I could think of.
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joseph Johnson: I dunno if they're maybe a little bit more, but
  Dan Martinez: Well we maybe we can think of that later.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: W just these are the ones you already summed up in the
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah, I I uh well, I pointed them out here,
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joseph Johnson: just to make it a little bit easier. Um Another function uh is of course we already discuss it on the side. Um, I don't know what costs of it. Uh, I've no idea about it. Uh, I was also looking for what you said, for I got an email uh uh about uh L_C_D_ in in in front of the remote control. I don't know if that's a good idea, or maybe it's a little bit too much for twelve and a half. Production.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: Uh-huh.
  Joseph Johnson: If we got already uh something like a
  Dan Martinez: That
  Joseph Johnson: base.
  Dan Martinez: might get redundant also maybe. I don't know what kind of
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: information
  Joseph Johnson: I don't know.
  Dan Martinez: it
  Joseph Johnson: I d
  Dan Martinez: would
  Joseph Johnson: I
  Joshua Hart: Mm yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: uh ju I was just thinking about it. Then
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: I got a pop-ups
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, it's
  Jose Bounds: Maybe
  Dan Martinez: okay.
  Joseph Johnson: to go
  Jose Bounds: we
  Joseph Johnson: to
  Jose Bounds: can
  Joseph Johnson: the meeting.
  Jose Bounds: bring t
  Joseph Johnson: But
  Jose Bounds: uh uh teletext to the t
  Joseph Johnson: The remote control.
  Jose Bounds: to the remote control.
  Joseph Johnson: a
  Joshua Hart: Then you
  Joseph Johnson: little
  Joshua Hart: and then you've got a flag
  Joseph Johnson: uh too
  Joshua Hart: s
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joseph Johnson: A little bit
  Dan Martinez: That's
  Joshua Hart: Very
  Dan Martinez: not
  Joshua Hart: big R_C_. Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: A little bit
  Dan Martinez: It was
  Joseph Johnson: too
  Dan Martinez: not
  Joseph Johnson: big,
  Dan Martinez: a good
  Joseph Johnson: I think.
  Dan Martinez: idea.
  Joseph Johnson: Exactly.
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joseph Johnson: Um, yeah. Well, the functions are are not more to discuss, I
  Dan Martinez: No.
  Joseph Johnson: think. It's
  Dan Martinez: No.
  Joseph Johnson: it's
  Joshua Hart: No.
  Joseph Johnson: just the base things we already discussed that the no V_C_R_ or that kind of uh, so that's very easy. Um
  Dan Martinez: But you do mention the next and previous uh button.
  Joseph Johnson: Mm-hmm.
  Joshua Hart: Next channel,
  Joseph Johnson: Well,
  Joshua Hart: previous
  Joseph Johnson: that's next
  Joshua Hart: channel.
  Joseph Johnson: channel.
  Dan Martinez: Oh,
  Joseph Johnson: I
  Dan Martinez: okay,
  Joseph Johnson: mean
  Dan Martinez: o
  Joseph Johnson: next channel.
  Dan Martinez: okay
  Joseph Johnson: Uh
  Dan Martinez: okay.
  Joseph Johnson: Um oh, I I got an email with with an uh
  Dan Martinez: Huh.
  Joseph Johnson: a remote control with a base. So, it's uh just an idea. And I um uh thinked of the button sizes and I'm not sure uh if they have to be big or uh just small
  Jose Bounds: But you're the expert.
  Joshua Hart: I think it depends on the function.
  Joseph Johnson: Well, I'm not a e I'm the expert for user-friendly, but not for trendiness.
  Dan Martinez: Mm-hmm.
  Joseph Johnson: Maybe
  Joshua Hart: Well,
  Joseph Johnson: it
  Joshua Hart: if you save uh Perhaps uh s tiny buttons aren't user-friendly, then we wouldn't im implement that of course.
  Joseph Johnson: Well uh okay, that's your point. Um, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I've nothing to s
  Dan Martinez: Well,
  Joshua Hart: Oh, that's
  Dan Martinez: w
  Joshua Hart: right.
  Dan Martinez: when we only use basic functions, we have the possibility to make the buttons larger.
  Joseph Johnson: Uh, with a little
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: bit larger, yeah. I thought so, but maybe with the
  Dan Martinez: Well, I think we already agreed upon the fact that the the the skip buttons and the cha and the volume buttons, th th those two have
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: that
  Dan Martinez: they have
  Joseph Johnson: groups.
  Dan Martinez: to be large. Uh,
  Joseph Johnson: Large?
  Dan Martinez: I mean th th the the two two basic buttons, you know, the to skip channels
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: and
  Joshua Hart: Yep.
  Dan Martinez: to uh I think yeah, I don't know why, but I think that is that's t
  Joseph Johnson: Most
  Joshua Hart: Those
  Dan Martinez: trendy
  Joshua Hart: are probably
  Dan Martinez: too,
  Joseph Johnson: the most
  Joshua Hart: the
  Dan Martinez: because
  Joseph Johnson: used
  Joshua Hart: the
  Dan Martinez: that's
  Joshua Hart: th
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Dan Martinez: the mo it
  Joseph Johnson: buttons.
  Dan Martinez: it you know, it's uh acc acc um accentu uh, how do you say it? It puts an extra accent on the the on the simplicity of
  Joshua Hart: Yes.
  Dan Martinez: our remotes
  Joseph Johnson: True.
  Dan Martinez: to j to make
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: these two most basic functions extra big, like
  Joshua Hart: Those are
  Dan Martinez: t
  Joshua Hart: probably the b four most most used buttons on the
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Joshua Hart: th in the
  Jose Bounds: You
  Joshua Hart: remote
  Jose Bounds: did
  Dan Martinez: And
  Joshua Hart: control.
  Jose Bounds: the
  Dan Martinez: you
  Jose Bounds: research.
  Dan Martinez: want
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: to acc accentuate that, you know.
  Joshua Hart: Sorry?
  Jose Bounds: It's from your research.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, sure.
  Joseph Johnson: Okay.
  Dan Martinez: So
  Joseph Johnson: Uh, that was all y uh personal preference I didn't have. I
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joseph Johnson: didn't had any time left. So
  Dan Martinez: No uh, that's coo it's cool.
  Joshua Hart: You don't care. No, sorry.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Joshua Hart: Yeah. Oh. Go away.
  Joshua Hart: Come
  Joseph Johnson: It's
  Joshua Hart: on.
  Joseph Johnson: there. Yeah, click on it. Couple time.
  Joshua Hart: Oh, great. Well, I've done some research again about trends on the internet. Um I've done some investigation, and uh well I uh got some information from fashion watchers from Paris and uh Milan. Some uh some findings the most important thing is fancy look and feel of the remote control. Uh, well, we were going to imply that, so that's nice. The second important thing is uh innovative technology in the R_C_. Uh, our market really likes really likes that. And uh the third point there in this uh order if of importance, the third point, is a high ease of use. And uh, well, for the idea, I've put some trends uh for the market of elderly people. Dark colours, simple recognisable shapes. So we probably won't do that. The younger market likes uh Well, the themes of of this year are uh surprisingly fruits and vegetables and spongy material. I found this image, which is uh Well, it symbolises the idea of fruits and vegetables. I don't see the spongy part in it. But with a little bit of fancy
  Dan Martinez: Well maybe c then we have to do something with Sponge Bob then.
  Joshua Hart: Exactly. I got some ideas Uh well, yeah, pictures isn't really good word, but um some symbols of fruits or vegetables maybe. Uh, catchy colours. Fruit is uh yellow, green, red, whatever. So,
  Dan Martinez: It doesn't
  Joshua Hart: remote
  Dan Martinez: stroke
  Joshua Hart: controls
  Dan Martinez: with the
  Joshua Hart: in
  Dan Martinez: with the
  Joshua Hart: in
  Dan Martinez: dark
  Joshua Hart: catchy
  Dan Martinez: colours.
  Joshua Hart: colours. Uh, no, we don't want dark colours.
  Dan Martinez: Not the dark colours? Okay.
  Joshua Hart: No, I just put them there to uh, yeah, uh for general idea.
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joshua Hart: And uh, the docking st uh I think the spongy material is is very irritating for the uh remote control itself. But to Yeah, the To implement some spongy thing, maybe we can do it in the in the docking station. At the bottom of the docking station or whatever. And uh, we could bring one line with a dark colour uh to um uh p uh yeah uh uh v how do you say?
  Dan Martinez: For diversity or something.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: Uh
  Joshua Hart: also a bit for elderly people who are a little bit crazy and want
  Joseph Johnson: Well, how
  Joshua Hart: maybe
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Joshua Hart: want a little younger design but still the dark colour. I mean it it it reaches a different market uh, but it it it doesn't cost really much effort to b to uh bring uh like a black R_C_ on the market or whatever.
  Joseph Johnson: But
  Joshua Hart: Yes.
  Joseph Johnson: how do we use uh fruits and vegetables in Christ's sake with remote
  Dan Martinez: No,
  Joseph Johnson: control?
  Dan Martinez: but I
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: I
  Joshua Hart: there's
  Dan Martinez: I think
  Joshua Hart: there's
  Joseph Johnson: Uh,
  Dan Martinez: that uh
  Joshua Hart: always
  Dan Martinez: our
  Joseph Johnson: make
  Joshua Hart: a
  Dan Martinez: design
  Joseph Johnson: it a banana?
  Dan Martinez: already resembles so a piece of fruit. It's
  Joshua Hart: Well
  Dan Martinez: like a pear
  Joshua Hart: there
  Dan Martinez: or
  Joshua Hart: there's
  Dan Martinez: something.
  Joshua Hart: always empty space of course on a remote control. I mean I think this part of the R_C_ uh well
  Dan Martinez: No, I don't think you have to do it
  Joshua Hart: the
  Dan Martinez: like
  Joshua Hart: upper the upper part or whatever is uh is not not used with buttons, I guess. So you you can put some fruity things
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but it that doesn't have to remind you, you know, like explicitly of s our f of a of
  Joshua Hart: No,
  Dan Martinez: a
  Joshua Hart: of
  Dan Martinez: specific
  Joshua Hart: course not.
  Dan Martinez: piece of fruit, but just, you know, like the the the the round curves. And so y I I think this
  Joshua Hart: Especially
  Dan Martinez: y it already
  Joshua Hart: i
  Dan Martinez: sem resembles uh something like a
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: pear
  Joseph Johnson: but
  Dan Martinez: to Joshua Hart or something.
  Joseph Johnson: th
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: yeah, but
  Joshua Hart: yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: that
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, exactly.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Joshua Hart: If we
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Joshua Hart: make it
  Joseph Johnson: but
  Joshua Hart: little
  Joseph Johnson: that's
  Joshua Hart: bit greenish.
  Dan Martinez: You do get the idea, eh? The fruity
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah
  Dan Martinez: kind
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Dan Martinez: of round
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Joshua Hart: A
  Dan Martinez: 'Kay.
  Joshua Hart: and we could use one of these for the uh
  Dan Martinez: Yeah,
  Joshua Hart: w
  Dan Martinez: uh
  Joshua Hart: what is it?
  Dan Martinez: yeah, I don't know.
  Jose Bounds: Grapes.
  Joshua Hart: Uh Isn't
  Dan Martinez: Uh, this is a b yeah.
  Joshua Hart: Wha whatever.
  Joseph Johnson: But d don't we need a creative artist or something like that to m
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: make
  Dan Martinez: Of
  Joseph Johnson: it
  Dan Martinez: course
  Joseph Johnson: to feel
  Dan Martinez: we have
  Joseph Johnson: like
  Dan Martinez: uh
  Joseph Johnson: a a
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: a
  Joshua Hart: sure.
  Joseph Johnson: a vegetable or fruit?
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: we have a very big uh
  Joshua Hart: Well, w we can
  Dan Martinez: the s
  Joshua Hart: uh w
  Jose Bounds: For a big team
  Joshua Hart: we can
  Jose Bounds: of artists.
  Dan Martinez: Of d
  Joshua Hart: we
  Dan Martinez: design
  Joshua Hart: can produce
  Dan Martinez: team, yeah.
  Joshua Hart: multiple uh multiple things. This is then the uh pear. I don't know the English word,
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but
  Joshua Hart: so forget it.
  Dan Martinez: It's pear, I guess.
  Joshua Hart: And um,
  Jose Bounds: But
  Joshua Hart: maybe,
  Jose Bounds: uh but I think
  Joshua Hart: yeah, a
  Jose Bounds: we
  Joshua Hart: b
  Jose Bounds: don't
  Joshua Hart: a banana
  Jose Bounds: have to make
  Joshua Hart: is uh is n not easy for a remote control, but m yeah.
  Jose Bounds: we
  Dan Martinez: No.
  Jose Bounds: can't make all uh ten designs. We have to make one design I th I I think.
  Dan Martinez: No, but I think it's it's
  Joshua Hart: Mayb
  Dan Martinez: already
  Joshua Hart: maybe two or three.
  Dan Martinez: what we were were up to.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: Uh, it's
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: it doesn't have to resemble uh what I already said, a specific piece of fruit, but just,
  Joshua Hart: No
  Dan Martinez: you
  Joshua Hart: sure,
  Dan Martinez: know, like
  Joshua Hart: but
  Dan Martinez: a fruity
  Joshua Hart: but
  Dan Martinez: thing going on.
  Joshua Hart: B
  Dan Martinez: And it's it looks
  Joshua Hart: but
  Dan Martinez: fruity
  Joshua Hart: that's great,
  Dan Martinez: to Joshua Hart.
  Joshua Hart: and and and what I was what
  Dan Martinez: And
  Joshua Hart: what
  Dan Martinez: uh, but
  Joshua Hart: I was
  Dan Martinez: I
  Joshua Hart: saying,
  Dan Martinez: do like
  Joshua Hart: the catchy
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joshua Hart: colours
  Dan Martinez: yeah, I do like uh the f uh to the idea of making a a y uh, a catchy colour design and a d because I do I think a dark colour would be nice too.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: But pictures of fruit,
  Dan Martinez: Maybe it's too much,
  Jose Bounds: vegetables
  Dan Martinez: you
  Joseph Johnson: But,
  Dan Martinez: know.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: we we have
  Joshua Hart: uh
  Joseph Johnson: to um
  Joshua Hart: not really.
  Jose Bounds: vegetables
  Joshua Hart: Pictures was a
  Joseph Johnson: There have to
  Joshua Hart: was
  Joseph Johnson: be
  Joshua Hart: a bad
  Joseph Johnson: the
  Joshua Hart: word,
  Joseph Johnson: the
  Joshua Hart: but
  Joseph Johnson: the the firm colours, our own
  Dan Martinez: Okay,
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Dan Martinez: but
  Joseph Johnson: colours
  Dan Martinez: what
  Joseph Johnson: has
  Dan Martinez: are
  Joseph Johnson: to
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joseph Johnson: be
  Dan Martinez: This
  Joseph Johnson: in it.
  Dan Martinez: is
  Joshua Hart: Well
  Dan Martinez: yellow.
  Joshua Hart: we c yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: Yellow, a Real Reaction.
  Jose Bounds: Yes, you can put a logo on top of it.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: But I don't
  Joshua Hart: sure.
  Dan Martinez: think our
  Joseph Johnson: Uh,
  Dan Martinez: our
  Joseph Johnson: yeah.
  Dan Martinez: company colours are this fashionable.
  Joshua Hart: Maybe we can
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Joshua Hart: if
  Jose Bounds: it's really
  Joshua Hart: if
  Jose Bounds: fruity.
  Joshua Hart: we got
  Joseph Johnson: We
  Joshua Hart: our
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Joshua Hart: docking
  Joseph Johnson: f
  Joshua Hart: station over here. I can't draw with this thing, but I'll try.
  Joseph Johnson: A yellow
  Joshua Hart: If this
  Joseph Johnson: do
  Joshua Hart: is our docking station, we can make
  Joseph Johnson: Uh, yeah.
  Joshua Hart: our logo over here. It doesn't work. And then
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah, and the button then.
  Jose Bounds: With a strawberry on top.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, on uh
  Joshua Hart: Well,
  Dan Martinez: n uh on the bottom of the remote
  Joshua Hart: the button
  Dan Martinez: you can
  Joshua Hart: button
  Dan Martinez: do
  Joshua Hart: over here or whatever, I don't
  Joseph Johnson: Okay,
  Joshua Hart: know.
  Joseph Johnson: yeah.
  Joshua Hart: On the front, of course, because else you can't find it.
  Joseph Johnson: Okay.
  Joshua Hart: Well, that were my ideas a little bit. I'll close
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joshua Hart: 'em down. Um, go away.
  Dan Martinez: Okay, you can you open the conceptual design
  Joshua Hart: Conceptual
  Dan Martinez: presentation?
  Joshua Hart: design, yes.
  Dan Martinez: See what was on the agenda.
  Joseph Johnson: Lazy.
  Joshua Hart: The agenda.
  Dan Martinez: This is his own remote Because. um,
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: maybe we can start with the technical uh functions, but I don't think it's there uh, yeah um, do we want to um use an L_C_D_ display, for example?
  Jose Bounds: Only if we
  Joshua Hart: I don't I don't know what to display on it.
  Jose Bounds: Maybe
  Joshua Hart: I mean
  Jose Bounds: maybe we
  Dan Martinez: Joshua Hart
  Jose Bounds: can
  Dan Martinez: neither.
  Jose Bounds: make a T_V_ guide on it, for the channel you're on.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, but
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but
  Joshua Hart: it
  Dan Martinez: it's
  Joshua Hart: should
  Dan Martinez: so
  Joshua Hart: be li like this big, and I
  Jose Bounds: No,
  Joshua Hart: don't
  Jose Bounds: no,
  Joshua Hart: think
  Dan Martinez: I
  Jose Bounds: only
  Dan Martinez: don't think
  Jose Bounds: the
  Dan Martinez: we
  Jose Bounds: T_V_
  Dan Martinez: should do
  Jose Bounds: channel
  Dan Martinez: it.
  Jose Bounds: with the with uh with uh four programmes. You can uh zap through them with the page up page down button.
  Joshua Hart: Yes sure, but it it has to to show an entire title of a programme or at least a q a quite
  Jose Bounds: Yes, it
  Joshua Hart: quite
  Jose Bounds: can
  Joshua Hart: large part of it and then
  Jose Bounds: On
  Joshua Hart: you
  Jose Bounds: your
  Joshua Hart: get a very large L_C_D_
  Jose Bounds: No,
  Joshua Hart: screen,
  Jose Bounds: on
  Joshua Hart: because
  Jose Bounds: your mobile phone you can y you can read text also. So why not on your remote?
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but no.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: I
  Joshua Hart: I don't
  Dan Martinez: do
  Joshua Hart: know.
  Dan Martinez: I think it's a bit redundant, actually. And it's also not I don't th even think it it looks s like sexy
  Joseph Johnson: Well well
  Dan Martinez: or
  Joseph Johnson: what
  Dan Martinez: something,
  Joseph Johnson: would you
  Dan Martinez: it's
  Joseph Johnson: display on it then?
  Jose Bounds: Uh, programme uh information
  Joshua Hart: Programme information.
  Jose Bounds: or
  Joseph Johnson: But
  Jose Bounds: or
  Joseph Johnson: is
  Joshua Hart: But
  Joseph Johnson: it
  Jose Bounds: or
  Joseph Johnson: isn't
  Jose Bounds: or
  Joseph Johnson: that
  Jose Bounds: g
  Joseph Johnson: a already
  Jose Bounds: or a guide
  Joseph Johnson: on T_V_, a lot of new T_V_s?
  Joshua Hart: Well a lot a lot of
  Jose Bounds: But
  Joshua Hart: T_V_s indeed show uh when you uh
  Dan Martinez: But you're already
  Joshua Hart: zap
  Dan Martinez: watching
  Joshua Hart: to
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Joshua Hart: a
  Dan Martinez: T_V_, you're not gonna watch your remote control.
  Jose Bounds: Yes, but you also want to know what's next.
  Joshua Hart: But then we also uh w need to bring out a line of T_V_s which we were planning
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah, and
  Joshua Hart: to,
  Joseph Johnson: we
  Joshua Hart: but
  Joseph Johnson: also
  Joshua Hart: whatever.
  Joseph Johnson: have to
  Joshua Hart: Because
  Joseph Johnson: yeah.
  Joshua Hart: the T_V_ has to send information back to the R_C_, and I don't know if that's
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Joshua Hart: possible.
  Jose Bounds: that's uh really possible.
  Joshua Hart: Yes, yes, o of course it's possible, but you gotta uh implement it in the T_V_s, and I don't think everyone's gonna buy a Real Reaction T_V_ within a month after the release of our uh remote
  Joseph Johnson: And
  Dan Martinez: I
  Joshua Hart: control.
  Dan Martinez: really
  Joseph Johnson: I also
  Dan Martinez: understand you want to make your job more exciting by putting an L_C_D_ in it, but I I really don't think it's a good n goo because it also doesn't stroke with we wanted uh c When we talk about the materials, uh it's a good idea to use these plastic materials with soft rubber stuff on it. It was our idea, you know, to give it a more sturdy look and that you
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: ca like you can throw with it. But I don't think a L_C_D_ display fits in that image. You know, it's like more vulnerable, and it adds
  Joshua Hart: That's
  Dan Martinez: nothing
  Joshua Hart: true,
  Dan Martinez: really,
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Dan Martinez: you know.
  Joshua Hart: true, it breaks f yeah, it it it's not very solid, it's uh frag
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, yeah.
  Joshua Hart: fragile.
  Dan Martinez: You could make it, but it's just it it doesn't I don't think it it's coherent with the design we're after.
  Joshua Hart: No. No. I don't think so ei either.
  Dan Martinez: But that's my opinion. Well, you you y Okay, we can vote for it. You want the L_C_D_ display.
  Jose Bounds: No.
  Dan Martinez: I don't want to and he doesn't, so it's up to him. If
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: we wanna
  Joseph Johnson: I
  Joshua Hart: Ah.
  Joseph Johnson: dunno.
  Dan Martinez: And I've read somewhere that I've got some kind of veto veto uh rights.
  Joseph Johnson: Oh,
  Joshua Hart: Bastard.
  Joseph Johnson: okay.
  Dan Martinez: So I can also say
  Joseph Johnson: We can you
  Dan Martinez: But did
  Joseph Johnson: away.
  Dan Martinez: we skip the Yeah, you could do m but what what i so what i but do
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: you think
  Joseph Johnson: I don't
  Dan Martinez: we should
  Joseph Johnson: know. Uh, uh I i if it's it's a simple
  Dan Martinez: We're not even
  Joseph Johnson: p
  Dan Martinez: sure what what information we want to display
  Joseph Johnson: No,
  Jose Bounds: No
  Dan Martinez: on
  Joseph Johnson: that
  Dan Martinez: it. So
  Joseph Johnson: that's right,
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Joseph Johnson: and
  Jose Bounds: um
  Joseph Johnson: uh I also have to think about new functions, maybe buttons or something like that to control it. Kind of L_C_D_ or something or
  Jose Bounds: Y yes,
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Jose Bounds: you
  Joshua Hart: I guess.
  Jose Bounds: can use uh buttons uh uh w that are already uh on the remote control
  Joseph Johnson: But how
  Jose Bounds: for
  Joseph Johnson: does
  Jose Bounds: double
  Joseph Johnson: it
  Jose Bounds: functions.
  Joseph Johnson: display then? W
  Jose Bounds: Uh, then you
  Joseph Johnson: when
  Jose Bounds: push
  Joseph Johnson: I go to
  Jose Bounds: a
  Joseph Johnson: the
  Jose Bounds: button.
  Joseph Johnson: second channel, what what does it show Joshua Hart?
  Jose Bounds: The title and the information about the programme.
  Joseph Johnson: About
  Jose Bounds: But
  Joseph Johnson: that programme?
  Jose Bounds: but uh yeah, what he said was right, about the televisions, they have to be uh customised
  Dan Martinez: Nah,
  Jose Bounds: to the
  Dan Martinez: that's not gonna work.
  Jose Bounds: But
  Joshua Hart: No.
  Jose Bounds: maybe in future it
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: will be a giant hit, and when you are the first you
  Dan Martinez: Oh,
  Jose Bounds: have
  Dan Martinez: well
  Jose Bounds: the
  Dan Martinez: uh I've
  Jose Bounds: biggest
  Dan Martinez: seen it done
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Dan Martinez: before. Do
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: you know th like the the bigger rem uh universal remotes, they have d L_C_D_ displays, but then it's very functional to indicate which what uh uh device you are controlling. So it's that that's what I've seen.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Jose Bounds: you
  Joshua Hart: true,
  Jose Bounds: can put
  Joshua Hart: if you
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Joshua Hart: uh
  Jose Bounds: a little
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: L_C_D_ display on it with uh with lots of information.
  Dan Martinez: But
  Jose Bounds: But
  Dan Martinez: it just
  Jose Bounds: uh I
  Dan Martinez: it j
  Jose Bounds: haven't thought
  Dan Martinez: it doesn't
  Jose Bounds: about it.
  Dan Martinez: doesn't match with the our whole basic concept.
  Jose Bounds: But whe but when you put a a a transparent uh plastic uh uh screen on top of it, it i it isn't vulnerable.
  Dan Martinez: Well
  Jose Bounds: You can throw with
  Dan Martinez: yeah, yeah,
  Jose Bounds: it
  Dan Martinez: okay.
  Jose Bounds: and
  Dan Martinez: That's maybe not the most important, but it's just
  Joseph Johnson: Is it fashion?
  Jose Bounds: When
  Dan Martinez: I don't
  Jose Bounds: when
  Dan Martinez: think
  Jose Bounds: you put
  Dan Martinez: so.
  Jose Bounds: uh maybe a colour L_C_D_ t uh screen on it, it's very special and very trendy to have
  Joseph Johnson: I don't
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Joseph Johnson: know.
  Jose Bounds: a remote
  Joseph Johnson: That's
  Jose Bounds: control
  Joseph Johnson: not up to you. That's up to
  Jose Bounds: from
  Joseph Johnson: market if i if it's trendy.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, well do you ha do you have to You haven't
  Joshua Hart: No.
  Dan Martinez: looked after the trendiness of L_C_D_ displays,
  Joseph Johnson: Because
  Joshua Hart: Well,
  Joseph Johnson: our
  Dan Martinez: have
  Joshua Hart: I
  Joseph Johnson: our
  Joshua Hart: think
  Joseph Johnson: motto
  Dan Martinez: you?
  Joshua Hart: it's uh
  Joseph Johnson: is
  Joshua Hart: I think
  Joseph Johnson: we put
  Joshua Hart: it's pretty
  Joseph Johnson: fashion
  Joshua Hart: trendy, to be honest, uh but um I don't know if if if well, I'm coming back to the costs again, but I think uh we gotta build a b pretty cheap design to to stay within our limits. And I think uh especially colour L_C_D_, which is indeed pretty trendy. But I don't think Uh, I think it will be too expensive.
  Jose Bounds: But uh I've got a the email with uh with the possibilities. And L_C_D_ was a possibility for the remote
  Dan Martinez: Yeah yeah
  Jose Bounds: control.
  Dan Martinez: yeah.
  Jose Bounds: So why don't we use it.
  Joshua Hart: Uh,
  Dan Martinez: Yeah,
  Joshua Hart: did
  Dan Martinez: but
  Joshua Hart: it
  Dan Martinez: we're
  Joshua Hart: say
  Dan Martinez: gonna
  Joshua Hart: a price
  Dan Martinez: if it
  Joshua Hart: also uh for for uh monogramme uh L_C_D_ or uh coloured L_C_D_?
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah, if you want to be trendy you have to be coloured. Coloured
  Joshua Hart: Yeah really, if y if you
  Joseph Johnson: If you have black
  Joshua Hart: c i
  Joseph Johnson: and white or something, or grey,
  Joshua Hart: I in
  Dan Martinez: Then
  Joseph Johnson: that's
  Dan Martinez: uh then
  Joshua Hart: in
  Dan Martinez: you
  Joshua Hart: two
  Dan Martinez: better
  Joshua Hart: thousand
  Dan Martinez: don't
  Joshua Hart: and four
  Dan Martinez: yeah,
  Joshua Hart: you
  Dan Martinez: d
  Joshua Hart: can't uh put something on the market which is a monogramme. Really.
  Jose Bounds: No, but it doesn't sa say anything about a colour or But, mm, I alf I also got a possibility to put uh a scroll button on it. But
  Dan Martinez: Uh
  Jose Bounds: I didn't
  Dan Martinez: uh I really
  Jose Bounds: think
  Dan Martinez: don't
  Jose Bounds: that
  Dan Martinez: feel the whole idea of an L_C_D_ display. I'm sorry. It can't co you cannot convince Joshua Hart. I don't know how well how to with you guys, but I don't really feel it. We already we're
  Joseph Johnson: It's too
  Dan Martinez: uh
  Joseph Johnson: much uh maybe uh with
  Dan Martinez: Yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: with
  Dan Martinez: we
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: the
  Dan Martinez: already
  Joseph Johnson: L_C_D_
  Dan Martinez: have
  Joseph Johnson: and
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joseph Johnson: the
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joseph Johnson: docking
  Dan Martinez: th th th
  Joseph Johnson: station
  Dan Martinez: base station
  Joseph Johnson: and
  Dan Martinez: gadgets, and want and it uh uh, do it has to be a simple design, which
  Jose Bounds: Yes, but o
  Dan Martinez: sturdy,
  Jose Bounds: on
  Joshua Hart: W we've
  Jose Bounds: the
  Joshua Hart: we've gotta
  Dan Martinez: which
  Joshua Hart: find
  Joseph Johnson: With one
  Joshua Hart: a balance,
  Dan Martinez: soft
  Joseph Johnson: thing
  Joshua Hart: of course.
  Joseph Johnson: special.
  Joshua Hart: And I think
  Joseph Johnson: Not a whole
  Dan Martinez: I don't
  Joseph Johnson: package
  Dan Martinez: think
  Joseph Johnson: of specialty.
  Dan Martinez: I j uh, and really, I don't see how the the L_C_D_ display is gonna add anything, you know, on a design level. Uh, I think it's
  Jose Bounds: No,
  Dan Martinez: slicker
  Jose Bounds: when y
  Dan Martinez: to have no L_ CEDs. Y we want to
  Jose Bounds: But
  Dan Martinez: it's
  Jose Bounds: it look
  Dan Martinez: simplicity, w you have two big buttons and you can do whatever you want
  Jose Bounds: Yes, but
  Dan Martinez: with these two buttons, so
  Jose Bounds: that
  Dan Martinez: you don't
  Jose Bounds: remote
  Dan Martinez: need
  Jose Bounds: controls
  Dan Martinez: an L_C_D_.
  Jose Bounds: are already on the market.
  Dan Martinez: It doesn't fit
  Jose Bounds: The simple
  Dan Martinez: in our philosophy uh behind the whole remote.
  Jose Bounds: Yes, but but when you want to have something special
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but we already have the docking station, which is
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Joshua Hart: We have
  Jose Bounds: but
  Joshua Hart: a
  Joseph Johnson: And
  Jose Bounds: you
  Joshua Hart: pear.
  Jose Bounds: had
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Jose Bounds: a
  Joseph Johnson: the
  Jose Bounds: picture of it from another company.
  Dan Martinez: It has to be developed,
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: but no, but it that's that's
  Joseph Johnson: It's
  Dan Martinez: our
  Joseph Johnson: just
  Dan Martinez: that's
  Joseph Johnson: an
  Dan Martinez: our
  Joseph Johnson: it's just
  Dan Martinez: killer
  Joseph Johnson: an idea.
  Dan Martinez: feature. That's
  Joseph Johnson: It's
  Dan Martinez: our
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Joseph Johnson: a it's
  Jose Bounds: it
  Dan Martinez: what
  Jose Bounds: was
  Dan Martinez: makes
  Jose Bounds: already
  Dan Martinez: it special.
  Jose Bounds: made. Tha the remote control
  Dan Martinez: Yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: True.
  Dan Martinez: we're gonna
  Jose Bounds: on the docking
  Dan Martinez: develop
  Jose Bounds: station.
  Dan Martinez: our own r
  Joshua Hart: Is
  Dan Martinez: n
  Joshua Hart: that
  Dan Martinez: docking
  Joshua Hart: so?
  Dan Martinez: station.
  Joshua Hart: Was it
  Jose Bounds: Yes, he
  Joseph Johnson: Well
  Jose Bounds: have
  Joshua Hart: it
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Jose Bounds: a picture
  Joshua Hart: wasn't just
  Joseph Johnson: I
  Jose Bounds: of
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Joshua Hart: a
  Jose Bounds: it.
  Joshua Hart: prototype?
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah, I dunno.
  Joshua Hart: Exactly, I've never seen it
  Dan Martinez: Uh,
  Joshua Hart: in
  Dan Martinez: but
  Joshua Hart: a store.
  Dan Martinez: re we really have to cut this off, I re I know you I I I I I get the idea you really like it, you know, the the L_C_D_ thing, but I I think it's it's not a good idea, and we have already mentioned all the arguments. I don't uh, do you guys agre How do you guys think? I d
  Joseph Johnson: No, it's too much.
  Joshua Hart: I think it's a little too much, yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: It's overdone.
  Dan Martinez: Okay, we s skip
  Jose Bounds: Okay.
  Dan Martinez: the L_C_D_ display.
  Joshua Hart: Okay.
  Dan Martinez: I'm sorry, maybe
  Joseph Johnson: Democratically.
  Dan Martinez: you can
  Joshua Hart: No.
  Dan Martinez: do something if we are at your own place, or make it make
  Jose Bounds: Mayb
  Dan Martinez: it make it happen in your basement or something.
  Jose Bounds: I will
  Dan Martinez: But
  Jose Bounds: rule the world with
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: Probably
  Joshua Hart: yeah, yeah, yeah.
  Dan Martinez: so. Okay.
  Jose Bounds: it.
  Dan Martinez: But for the technical part. The m material, I think uh it was a good idea to use the plastic and uh the rubber.
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Dan Martinez: Uh
  Jose Bounds: maybe a bit of a cushion is
  Dan Martinez: Yeah yeah yeah, p Exactly. This
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: is what
  Joshua Hart: for
  Dan Martinez: it
  Joshua Hart: the
  Dan Martinez: w
  Joshua Hart: spongy uh
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but
  Jose Bounds: Yes.
  Joshua Hart: feel.
  Dan Martinez: it it was already
  Joseph Johnson: With a spongy
  Dan Martinez: what
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: we're
  Joseph Johnson: Bob feel.
  Dan Martinez: uh we're after, you know, to give it uh, you know, the soft touch in your hands
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: and also to, know, like Yeah, that is y the b airbag
  Jose Bounds: Like a
  Dan Martinez: kind of
  Jose Bounds: b
  Dan Martinez: thing.
  Jose Bounds: yes.
  Dan Martinez: You
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: can st
  Joseph Johnson: you just
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: can
  Joshua Hart: airbag.
  Joseph Johnson: drop it.
  Dan Martinez: throw it at your
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: little brother's
  Joshua Hart: If you drop
  Dan Martinez: head.
  Joshua Hart: it if you drop it the airbag comes out,
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Joshua Hart: yeah.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah. No no no, not that
  Jose Bounds: Maybe
  Dan Martinez: comfy.
  Jose Bounds: it but then we have to look that it uh w uh will not um be too childish to see.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's a that's a good point. And that's why I like the dark t col dark colour bit, you know,
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: because it may be the design uh, it's uh maybe it is a bit of
  Joseph Johnson: But
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joseph Johnson: not black I think.
  Dan Martinez: it's a bit nineties
  Joshua Hart: No.
  Dan Martinez: maybe, what we're what we're up to rat fun to
  Joseph Johnson: Well
  Dan Martinez: this point.
  Joseph Johnson: if if it's fruit and vegetables, it have to be colourful.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, that's
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: that's true, but
  Joshua Hart: b
  Joseph Johnson: But
  Joshua Hart: yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: can
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Joseph Johnson: we
  Joshua Hart: what
  Joseph Johnson: ge uh
  Joshua Hart: w I I
  Dan Martinez: but
  Joshua Hart: was
  Dan Martinez: it
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Dan Martinez: has
  Joshua Hart: pointing
  Dan Martinez: to be
  Joshua Hart: at.
  Dan Martinez: a little big solid. It mustn't be too, n you know, th too overwhelming, then when you put it
  Joseph Johnson: Can
  Dan Martinez: on
  Joseph Johnson: we
  Dan Martinez: your
  Joseph Johnson: combine
  Dan Martinez: just
  Joseph Johnson: it or something? Uh with
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: uh yellow and black?
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, maybe so.
  Joseph Johnson: Make it a bee?
  Joshua Hart: What?
  Joseph Johnson: A bee.
  Joshua Hart: Oh, a bee. Oh.
  Dan Martinez: No, uh I don't like the yellow and black combination. But it is our company colours.
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Dan Martinez: Apparently.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Jose Bounds: real real
  Joseph Johnson: it's our
  Jose Bounds: good colours.
  Joseph Johnson: yeah. We we have to use yellow.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah. Hmm.
  Jose Bounds: Hmm.
  Dan Martinez: I don't like yellow, and uh maybe
  Joshua Hart: Well,
  Dan Martinez: I
  Joshua Hart: we
  Dan Martinez: don't
  Joshua Hart: can
  Dan Martinez: know.
  Joshua Hart: as as I
  Jose Bounds: But that's not really fruity.
  Joshua Hart: draw really nicely over there. We can put the logo on our uh on our base station. Uh, yeah. And maybe
  Dan Martinez: But
  Joshua Hart: very very tiny on the remote control itself. But, i
  Dan Martinez: Okay, but what uh, what are other tef technical things we have to discuss?
  Jose Bounds: Uh fronts of the We can have uh different uh uh fronts of the
  Dan Martinez: Should we do that?
  Jose Bounds: telephone.
  Dan Martinez: I don't think you we should do that. Maybe just bring it
  Joseph Johnson: Different
  Dan Martinez: out in different
  Joseph Johnson: fronts.
  Dan Martinez: colours, but not
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: af that you can
  Joshua Hart: I
  Dan Martinez: switch
  Joshua Hart: guess that's that's
  Dan Martinez: fronts
  Joshua Hart: enough.
  Dan Martinez: afterwards, that's also too much. People
  Joshua Hart: That's
  Dan Martinez: don't
  Joshua Hart: way too
  Dan Martinez: wanna
  Joshua Hart: Nokia.
  Dan Martinez: spend more money
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: on their remote control, I guess.
  Joseph Johnson: Uh, you can you can l uh
  Jose Bounds: Are these designs?
  Joseph Johnson: let choose the customer which colour he wants,
  Dan Martinez: Yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: yeah.
  Dan Martinez: yeah.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, definitely.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah, Three
  Joshua Hart: Just bring
  Joseph Johnson: three
  Joshua Hart: more
  Joseph Johnson: or
  Joshua Hart: designs
  Joseph Johnson: four
  Joshua Hart: on the market.
  Joseph Johnson: uh four uh colours,
  Dan Martinez: But
  Joseph Johnson: or
  Dan Martinez: uh,
  Joseph Johnson: something
  Joshua Hart: Why
  Dan Martinez: without
  Joshua Hart: not,
  Joseph Johnson: like that.
  Dan Martinez: gon
  Joshua Hart: yeah.
  Dan Martinez: uh okay. So, are we through the technical part then?
  Jose Bounds: Yes.
  Dan Martinez: Okay. So we uh agreed upon uh n uh well, not u
  Jose Bounds: It
  Dan Martinez: unanimously
  Joseph Johnson: Well, yeah, the
  Jose Bounds: this a real
  Dan Martinez: or how you call
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Dan Martinez: it,
  Jose Bounds: young
  Joseph Johnson: Three
  Dan Martinez: but
  Joseph Johnson: to one.
  Jose Bounds: young and dynamic
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: That's
  Jose Bounds: uh uh styles.
  Dan Martinez: The materials you uh mentioned in your your personal
  Jose Bounds: Yes.
  Dan Martinez: preferences were all were quite okay. O
  Joseph Johnson: And
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Joseph Johnson: tita
  Dan Martinez: o only only
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joseph Johnson: titanium,
  Dan Martinez: last point your
  Joseph Johnson: is uh is
  Dan Martinez: no titanium's
  Joseph Johnson: is it a no?
  Dan Martinez: not not
  Joseph Johnson: Is
  Dan Martinez: out of question, I guess.
  Jose Bounds: But
  Joseph Johnson: It's
  Jose Bounds: also
  Joseph Johnson: just like that,
  Jose Bounds: w
  Joseph Johnson: th this titanium.
  Jose Bounds: Yes, b bu but
  Dan Martinez: But
  Jose Bounds: when
  Dan Martinez: is
  Jose Bounds: we
  Dan Martinez: it
  Jose Bounds: use
  Dan Martinez: possible
  Jose Bounds: s
  Dan Martinez: to use
  Jose Bounds: soft
  Dan Martinez: both the the
  Jose Bounds: mm
  Dan Martinez: plastic and so uh soft things and t p titanium, as well?
  Joshua Hart: Sure.
  Dan Martinez: Makes
  Jose Bounds: Mm.
  Dan Martinez: it in a homogeneous
  Joseph Johnson: No, not all,
  Dan Martinez: uh
  Joseph Johnson: not all
  Dan Martinez: design.
  Joseph Johnson: of them.
  Jose Bounds: But it it then it uh you can't throw it it. It will uh make a huge noise or break other stuff when you throw
  Dan Martinez: It
  Jose Bounds: with
  Dan Martinez: will
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Dan Martinez: it
  Jose Bounds: titanium
  Dan Martinez: will break other stuff w
  Jose Bounds: with
  Dan Martinez: when
  Jose Bounds: your remote
  Dan Martinez: it's plastic,
  Jose Bounds: control.
  Dan Martinez: as well.
  Jose Bounds: No uh,
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: titanium
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, that's
  Jose Bounds: is a
  Joshua Hart: true.
  Jose Bounds: bit uh
  Dan Martinez: No, but uh uh, you
  Jose Bounds: it's
  Dan Martinez: should
  Jose Bounds: a bit
  Dan Martinez: ma
  Jose Bounds: harder.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: But also on the colours, the
  Dan Martinez: Okay,
  Jose Bounds: young
  Dan Martinez: think of the possibilities and make it in completely titanium. Well would it be more trendy? More chic?
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, I think it
  Joseph Johnson: Uh, I think
  Joshua Hart: I think
  Joseph Johnson: titanium
  Joshua Hart: it does.
  Joseph Johnson: nowadays is way more often used than plastic.
  Jose Bounds: Yes, but a titanium
  Joseph Johnson: In trendy things.
  Jose Bounds: remote control, when you're uh watching T_V_ uh or your hands
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Jose Bounds: are
  Joshua Hart: o
  Jose Bounds: a little bit sweaty, and the
  Joshua Hart: On the other hand, if you want
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Joshua Hart: to make fruit fruity
  Joseph Johnson: It's cold
  Joshua Hart: stuff
  Joseph Johnson: in the winter.
  Joshua Hart: with
  Jose Bounds: Yes.
  Joshua Hart: uh
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but I I really like the idea of the the the plastic and the big kind of
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: thing. But the question is i then it's, you know, is is
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: it
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Dan Martinez: fits
  Joshua Hart: true,
  Dan Martinez: in our
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Dan Martinez: s philosophy
  Joshua Hart: true.
  Dan Martinez: to make it uh sturdy and simple and uh, know, like uh
  Jose Bounds: Sports and gaming.
  Dan Martinez: When
  Jose Bounds: Define.
  Dan Martinez: you make it titanium, it becomes more like some kind of gadget you actually don't need. And when it's big and plastic, it's like some fun stuff you can always have around. It's always fun to have something big and plastic
  Joshua Hart: Yes.
  Joseph Johnson: You
  Dan Martinez: around.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: have that uh M_P_ three player of Nike, I saw. Isn't that titanium with a little bit of rubber?
  Jose Bounds: Yes, it's w
  Joseph Johnson: Isn't it
  Jose Bounds: but it is uh plastic.
  Joseph Johnson: Is plastic? Well, it's titanium looking.
  Jose Bounds: Yes,
  Joshua Hart: What?
  Jose Bounds: w we can do that on
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Jose Bounds: the
  Joseph Johnson: he is. Here
  Jose Bounds: on the
  Joseph Johnson: he is. Uh, the I don't know if you know the M_P_ three player of Nike. 'Kay, uh that
  Joshua Hart: Oh, yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: that's
  Joshua Hart: Okay,
  Joseph Johnson: very
  Joshua Hart: yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: uh with rubber,
  Dan Martinez: Yeah,
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: so
  Joshua Hart: I
  Dan Martinez: that's
  Joseph Johnson: it's
  Joshua Hart: see.
  Dan Martinez: beautiful.
  Joseph Johnson: very
  Jose Bounds: We can
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, but
  Jose Bounds: make
  Joshua Hart: but
  Jose Bounds: this
  Joshua Hart: but
  Jose Bounds: as
  Joseph Johnson: rough.
  Jose Bounds: a style too. Uh, this is uh just
  Dan Martinez: Oh,
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: maybe
  Jose Bounds: a
  Joshua Hart: I
  Dan Martinez: th
  Joshua Hart: th
  Dan Martinez: maybe
  Joshua Hart: I think
  Dan Martinez: this is
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Dan Martinez: an
  Joshua Hart: difficult, because uh that's different material, and then you gotta have like uh uh uh two material lines
  Jose Bounds: No,
  Joshua Hart: of
  Jose Bounds: we
  Joshua Hart: of
  Jose Bounds: c we can
  Joshua Hart: of
  Jose Bounds: make it from the same kind of plastic.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, if it's just a colour uh which you uh which you change then, I guess it's it's nice to have one of these. Uh
  Jose Bounds: Uh
  Dan Martinez: No, I do like the idea of maybe a t titanium kind type of body w and then with s plastic colouration around it. You
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: know, like the the soft stuff, but I don't know if it's possible.
  Jose Bounds: I don't have the information. Uh, I I didn't got it
  Dan Martinez: But you can't make the plastic give uh the ti titanium look.
  Jose Bounds: Yes.
  Joseph Johnson: True.
  Dan Martinez: But make
  Joshua Hart: Mm-hmm.
  Dan Martinez: it just like shiny.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah yeah, true.
  Dan Martinez: Maybe
  Jose Bounds: Like
  Dan Martinez: we should
  Jose Bounds: the
  Dan Martinez: uh
  Jose Bounds: M_P_
  Dan Martinez: shou
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Jose Bounds: three player.
  Joseph Johnson: maybe that's good idea, yeah. But if you want to la uh yeah, last longer
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: than two weeks or something
  Dan Martinez: And
  Joseph Johnson: like
  Dan Martinez: uh and
  Joseph Johnson: that, you can maybe
  Dan Martinez: maybe we sh should we t I don't know if we should talk about uh, how how much time
  Jose Bounds: Uh, in
  Dan Martinez: have
  Jose Bounds: a
  Dan Martinez: we
  Jose Bounds: lot
  Dan Martinez: got left?
  Jose Bounds: of other uh
  Joseph Johnson: I don't know. What time
  Dan Martinez: Forty
  Joseph Johnson: does
  Dan Martinez: minutes.
  Jose Bounds: in a lot of other product uh categories like uh even in b in bags industry. Uh, they began with uh t typical uh leather bags, but then they became stylish, with all all si all sort of colours, and
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: w kind of fon of uh of fronts,
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Jose Bounds: like we can use on the telephone and it Like Eastpack uh began a revolution with it with all this uh kind of bags and and colours and
  Dan Martinez: You putting
  Jose Bounds: and
  Dan Martinez: in different colours.
  Jose Bounds: Yes, and and styles.
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Jose Bounds: They have uh also uh a kind of uh um uh roses on it, a and
  Joshua Hart: Uh
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Joshua Hart: yeah,
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Joshua Hart: yeah.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but w yeah. Well, it is. It's a possibility. But, let's think
  Jose Bounds: Then
  Dan Martinez: about the
  Jose Bounds: we
  Dan Martinez: bas
  Jose Bounds: can always uh use the same design for a greater resemblance, but with new uh
  Joshua Hart: Yes.
  Jose Bounds: with new colours, new
  Joshua Hart: New prints
  Dan Martinez: Mm-hmm,
  Jose Bounds: yes.
  Joshua Hart: on it. Yep.
  Dan Martinez: mm-hmm. But wha th our basic idea y I mean, you gonna we're probably gonna have like two type of materials, like the d d b the plastic uh enclosure and then the the pads that surround it. And and pro and lights. We have to incorporate the lights too. But, uh do w gonna gonna are we going to give it a two-tone colour look, like the the plastic mould is in in one colour and the s the cushion pads around it are in another colour? Is that the idea? Is that a good idea?
  Joshua Hart: How do you mean? Th th the uh
  Joseph Johnson: The rubber.
  Joshua Hart: base
  Dan Martinez: How many
  Joshua Hart: in a
  Dan Martinez: colours
  Joshua Hart: in another
  Dan Martinez: are we how many colours are we gonna we're uh uh f uh f Only five minutes left, by the way.
  Joshua Hart: Yes.
  Dan Martinez: How many colours are we gonna give it? Like two-tone
  Jose Bounds: There
  Dan Martinez: colour? T
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: there
  Joseph Johnson: Uh
  Jose Bounds: are three
  Joseph Johnson: no, not
  Jose Bounds: uh components
  Joseph Johnson: too much I think.
  Jose Bounds: three components type. You have the buttons, the the
  Joshua Hart: How the buttons
  Jose Bounds: case
  Joshua Hart: yeah.
  Jose Bounds: uh itself,
  Dan Martinez: I think maybe the case
  Jose Bounds: and the
  Dan Martinez: itself
  Jose Bounds: rubber
  Dan Martinez: should
  Jose Bounds: and th
  Dan Martinez: be in one colour and then the rubber of the buttons, and the cushions
  Jose Bounds: Yes.
  Dan Martinez: as well should be in another
  Joseph Johnson: Or
  Dan Martinez: colour.
  Joseph Johnson: you just
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: make uh one colour, uh maybe with a a z a kind of like a big wave or something like uh
  Dan Martinez: Okay, but not
  Joseph Johnson: In
  Dan Martinez: more
  Joseph Johnson: in
  Dan Martinez: than
  Joseph Johnson: another colour.
  Dan Martinez: Well, yeah,
  Joseph Johnson: Not
  Dan Martinez: it's
  Joseph Johnson: more than two colours
  Dan Martinez: No.
  Joseph Johnson: I think.
  Joshua Hart: No,
  Joseph Johnson: It's
  Joshua Hart: definitely
  Joseph Johnson: a g a
  Joshua Hart: not.
  Joseph Johnson: little
  Dan Martinez: Maybe we should
  Joseph Johnson: bit too
  Dan Martinez: talk
  Joseph Johnson: flashy.
  Dan Martinez: about it on a l in
  Joshua Hart: Yes,
  Dan Martinez: a
  Jose Bounds: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: later meeting.
  Jose Bounds: or
  Joshua Hart: definitely.
  Jose Bounds: or when you use the buttons as black, it you can use two colours as well
  Dan Martinez: Okay.
  Jose Bounds: uh
  Dan Martinez: But we have to uh think of some other uh important things. Uh oh yeah, the the functionalities
  Joseph Johnson: The
  Dan Martinez: of
  Joseph Johnson: funct
  Dan Martinez: the the
  Joseph Johnson: yeah,
  Dan Martinez: buttons.
  Joseph Johnson: I was I was thinking about th the st do we still want a joystick idea.
  Dan Martinez: No.
  Joshua Hart: No, I think that's too vulnerable.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: I think this is okay, the so we have the basic. Then we have the numbers. We have the power button. We have
  Joseph Johnson: The
  Dan Martinez: we have a teletext button.
  Joseph Johnson: volume, teletext and
  Dan Martinez: And maybe want to access a a menu or something.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, but
  Dan Martinez: Most
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Dan Martinez: T_V_s
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Dan Martinez: have a
  Joshua Hart: I
  Dan Martinez: menu.
  Joshua Hart: was thinking that's gotta be on the television.
  Dan Martinez: Yeah, but
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah
  Dan Martinez: I think
  Joseph Johnson: yeah yeah
  Dan Martinez: you ha
  Joseph Johnson: yeah,
  Dan Martinez: I really need
  Joseph Johnson: b
  Dan Martinez: a menu button. That's just i the
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: only
  Joseph Johnson: but
  Dan Martinez: button
  Joseph Johnson: wha what
  Dan Martinez: only
  Joseph Johnson: kind of menu?
  Dan Martinez: You know,
  Joseph Johnson: Is
  Dan Martinez: I
  Joseph Johnson: uh isn't that different from every television?
  Dan Martinez: No, I think most T_V_s
  Joshua Hart: Mm.
  Dan Martinez: have an uh
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: a
  Joshua Hart: if
  Dan Martinez: menu
  Joshua Hart: it's c
  Dan Martinez: nowadays
  Joshua Hart: if
  Dan Martinez: to access the uh uh screen settings. And
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: so
  Joshua Hart: I think it's okay to to add a menu button for uh
  Dan Martinez: But that
  Joshua Hart: and if
  Dan Martinez: that
  Joshua Hart: the
  Dan Martinez: covers
  Joshua Hart: T_V_ doesn't
  Dan Martinez: all the
  Joshua Hart: have a menu,
  Dan Martinez: all the
  Joshua Hart: then
  Dan Martinez: other settings. It covers everything then.
  Jose Bounds: But then
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Jose Bounds: you have to put uh up and down and uh left
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Jose Bounds: and right
  Joshua Hart: you
  Dan Martinez: No,
  Joshua Hart: can
  Dan Martinez: you can
  Joshua Hart: put
  Dan Martinez: use
  Joshua Hart: that on
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joshua Hart: the two eight four and six
  Dan Martinez: And you
  Joshua Hart: or
  Dan Martinez: al
  Joshua Hart: whatever.
  Dan Martinez: can also use the normal
  Jose Bounds: Okay.
  Dan Martinez: skip buttons for that. Th in that way
  Joshua Hart: Mm,
  Dan Martinez: we
  Joshua Hart: yeah.
  Dan Martinez: have like only the numbers, the power button, skip and volume, and then uh uh ten uh rem
  Joshua Hart: A mute and
  Dan Martinez: uh yeah,
  Joshua Hart: a
  Joseph Johnson: Mute.
  Joshua Hart: teletext
  Dan Martinez: mute. A teletext
  Joshua Hart: and a menu.
  Dan Martinez: and a menu, and then then i
  Joshua Hart: That's
  Dan Martinez: that's
  Joshua Hart: all.
  Dan Martinez: it. It's all we need.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Joshua Hart: Hmm.
  Dan Martinez: Okay,
  Joshua Hart: Great.
  Dan Martinez: uh
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Joseph Johnson: Okay, that's not mu
  Dan Martinez: another
  Joseph Johnson: not
  Dan Martinez: stuf
  Joseph Johnson: much functions.
  Dan Martinez: some stuff
  Joseph Johnson: So
  Dan Martinez: about the the the design of the docking station. Something important about a s uh, no, uh which sh uh should remind us of the remote itself, I guess.
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, definitely.
  Dan Martinez: Uh, in one colour.
  Joshua Hart: Are we gonna
  Dan Martinez: Just
  Joshua Hart: do
  Dan Martinez: use
  Joshua Hart: something with the uh spongy thing there?
  Dan Martinez: I think the
  Jose Bounds: Uh
  Dan Martinez: spongy thing already um comes forward in the in the in the cushions, pads and
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: things on the
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Dan Martinez: s uh
  Joshua Hart: true,
  Dan Martinez: side.
  Joshua Hart: that's
  Dan Martinez: And we
  Joshua Hart: true.
  Dan Martinez: will make it spongy and and uh and uh well, the fruity thing is just the shape should be fru i did I think this is kind of fruity, you know. Just round shapes with uh
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, it's kinda fruity, and with th with catchy colours uh
  Dan Martinez: Yeah,
  Joshua Hart: uh
  Dan Martinez: but we're gonna have
  Joshua Hart: w
  Dan Martinez: to we really have to think I think colours is very important, because it has to be flashy, but and but it d it doesn't have to be annoying, that when you uh, know, some things is just over the top, and when you have
  Joshua Hart: Yeah,
  Dan Martinez: it on
  Joshua Hart: definitely.
  Dan Martinez: your table for more than two weeks, you it just gets annoying, because it's so big and flashy. Uh, it has to be some level of subtlety, but we have to still have to think of how we manage to uh to get
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: to that. Okay.
  Joshua Hart: Okay.
  Dan Martinez: Guess we're through then.
  Joshua Hart: I
  Joseph Johnson: Okay.
  Joshua Hart: guess so.
  Dan Martinez: But we I think also we just so we have to do something with colour but also, I I think we have to keep the dark colour thing in mind. I think
  Joshua Hart: Yes.
  Dan Martinez: that's
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: uh adds to the too much colour maybe m
  Joseph Johnson: Too much
  Dan Martinez: um
  Joseph Johnson: colour, i it uh when you got it in a living room, it's
  Dan Martinez: But
  Joseph Johnson: too
  Dan Martinez: our
  Joseph Johnson: much
  Dan Martinez: des
  Joseph Johnson: maybe.
  Dan Martinez: design
  Joshua Hart: Yea yeah.
  Dan Martinez: experts
  Joseph Johnson: It
  Dan Martinez: will
  Joseph Johnson: has to
  Dan Martinez: uh
  Joseph Johnson: be
  Dan Martinez: work that out. Okay,
  Joshua Hart: Yep.
  Dan Martinez: well
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: I think the meeting will be over within a minute. So
  Joshua Hart: Something
  Dan Martinez: we will
  Joshua Hart: like
  Dan Martinez: wrap
  Joshua Hart: that.
  Dan Martinez: up. Or is there anything we'd like to discuss?
  Joshua Hart: I guess not.
  Dan Martinez: That's right. Okay.
  Joshua Hart: Do you, guys?
  Joseph Johnson: No.
  Joshua Hart: No?
  Dan Martinez: Okay. Well, you will read the minutes uh in the you can find them
  Joshua Hart: In
  Dan Martinez: in
  Joshua Hart: the shared
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joseph Johnson: Oh, okay,
  Joshua Hart: folder.
  Joseph Johnson: yeah.
  Dan Martinez: pro probably. Yeah uh no, for su for sure because I'm will now type them out.
  Jose Bounds: What are we going to do now?
  Dan Martinez: Uh,
  Joshua Hart: You'll
  Dan Martinez: y yeah.
  Joshua Hart: see in you email,
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Joshua Hart: I guess.
  Dan Martinez: I think uh
  Joshua Hart: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
  Joseph Johnson: I hope so. And the other thing is that you don't have kind of prototype or something like that. You see a kinda prototype you can
  Jose Bounds: I
  Joseph Johnson: a
  Jose Bounds: will
  Joseph Johnson: little
  Jose Bounds: make one
  Joseph Johnson: bit more
  Jose Bounds: in the
  Joseph Johnson: uh
  Jose Bounds: next uh twenty minutes.
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Joshua Hart: Construct one, yeah.
  Dan Martinez: But
  Joseph Johnson: With you laptop?
  Dan Martinez: toilet paper roll
  Joseph Johnson: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: and uh Okay.
  Joseph Johnson: Oh my God.
  Joshua Hart: Alright, shall we get back to work?
  Dan Martinez: Yep.
  Joshua Hart: Great.
  Dan Martinez: I was waiting for
  Joseph Johnson: Well
  Dan Martinez: the
  Joseph Johnson: you
  Dan Martinez: l
  Joseph Johnson: are.
  Dan Martinez: last
  Joshua Hart: Yeah.
  Dan Martinez: message,
  Joseph Johnson: We're not.
  Dan Martinez: but
  Joshua Hart: Bastard.
  Jose Bounds: Back to the pen.
  Joshua Hart: You lazy
  Dan Martinez: Mm yeah.
Updated Content: Jose Bounds talked about the options available for materials and components. He suggested that the case should be double-curved, and be made from plastic and rubber rather than wood or titanium. He also recommended using basic batteries rather than solar or kinetic power. He also mentioned the possibility of using an LCD screen to add something special. Joseph Johnson went over the functions to be included in the remote. The group discussed using large buttons for the most frequently used functions. Joshua Hart gave a presentation on trend watching. A fancy look and feel is most important to users, followed by technological innovation and ease of use. The younger market also likes the theme of fruit and vegetables and spongy material, which could be implemented through fruity colours and using a spongy material for the base. The group discussed how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme, as well as the company colours and logo. The group discussed whether to include an LCD screen, and eventually decided against it. Dan Martinez closed the meeting and told the group they would receive emails about their tasks for the next meeting.