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  Ann Taylor: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: So
  Ann Taylor: Fine.
  Barbara Lopez: Do you know them or
  Ann Taylor: The names?
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: For for for my sur um
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: Jens.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, no, but your b your surname.
  Ann Taylor: Uh Damman. D_ A_ W_.
  Barbara Lopez: W_O_
  Ann Taylor: Uh uh
  Barbara Lopez: da.
  Ann Taylor: M_
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: M_. I mean M_. Double M_.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay. And what's your name?
  Tina Suero: Paul Wiezer. Paul Wiezer.
  Barbara Lopez: W_I_E_S_
  Tina Suero: A_
  Barbara Lopez: z Z_
  Tina Suero: E_
  Barbara Lopez: or
  Tina Suero: Z_
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  Tina Suero: zee zee
  Barbara Lopez: uh zee.
  Tina Suero: E_ R_.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay. What's your name?
  Consuelo Gilreath: Uh Martijn.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, but your surname.
  Consuelo Gilreath: What?
  Barbara Lopez: Your surname.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Uh Abbing. A_ B_ B_ I_ N_ G_.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay, thanks.
  Consuelo Gilreath: I
  Tina Suero: Uh.
  Consuelo Gilreath: was a little short on time,
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: but
  Barbara Lopez: Ann Taylor too, so that's
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: not
  Tina Suero: same here.
  Barbara Lopez: No no no, I just fi first my
  Ann Taylor: Oh. Sorry.
  Tina Suero: Uh let's see. Which one was
  Barbara Lopez: So
  Tina Suero: mine?
  Barbara Lopez: let's have a look, we have forty minutes, so it's it's more than enough. Okay, perfect. So we have Oh no, what's that? So so we have uh forty minutes for this uh for this second meeting, and we have to
  Tina Suero: Good.
  Barbara Lopez: make uh sure that we going t that we are sure, that we are, that we know what we're going to make uh th what the product is going to like look like. Uh first I have the notes of the last meeting, so I showed uh show them to you. Oh, sorry about that, I just escape this one. How do I escape this?
  Consuelo Gilreath: What?
  Barbara Lopez: How do I I escape this s uh presentation?
  Tina Suero: Uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: Uh
  Tina Suero: left.
  Barbara Lopez: Ah okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Just
  Tina Suero: So
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: And show, sorry. Okay, so let's have a look s at this one. Okay, so the f the f the points we had last meeting was the um Should be a univ uh universal remote control No, that's I uh s I just got a email from the from the personal coach and it should be a T_V_ remote control only. So have you changed that part?
  Tina Suero: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: Um so yeah, it still has to be uh f a r a remote control for kids and elderly. It's it's still the same. Um All these points uh we have to look at. You all know them. But uh there's another point. The um uh the main uh people of interest of this company are forty plus people. So they're old and not younger people. So we have to look at that as well. 'Specially old people, maybe bi bigger buttons or something, I dunno.
  Tina Suero: Yeah, okay.
  Barbara Lopez: Uh so So yeah, that's it, so just you can do your presentation for uh
  Tina Suero: Which one first?
  Ann Taylor: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: Oh it doesn't matter, just start with the
  Tina Suero: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: Mm.
  Ann Taylor: Uh
  Tina Suero: Functional requirements, yeah.
  Ann Taylor: Okay. Well my name is Jens Damman, but we're in a group, and I I will start it. Wait. Um I've used a marketing report on uh the site. Uh I think you've uh read it too. and uh f and furthermore I uh surfed the o the other site.
  Barbara Lopez: I I didn't read i read it, so it's not
  Ann Taylor: You didn't
  Barbara Lopez: for Ann Taylor,
  Ann Taylor: read it?
  Barbara Lopez: I didn't get
  Tina Suero: No,
  Barbara Lopez: it uh anyway.
  Tina Suero: I didn
  Ann Taylor: Oh okay,
  Barbara Lopez: It's
  Tina Suero: don't
  Barbara Lopez: only
  Tina Suero: thing
  Barbara Lopez: for you.
  Ann Taylor: I
  Tina Suero: we
  Ann Taylor: I
  Tina Suero: got
  Ann Taylor: was
  Tina Suero: it.
  Ann Taylor: the only one who get it.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: Yes.
  Ann Taylor: Okay it was uh uh uh um um a report about uh an experiment with uh a lot of users. And uh they had a lot of findings in their report uh with statistical uh uh uh thing uh with statistical uh proof. So I um I had three pages with findings and sev a lot of uh a lot of findings. So we can use this uh to uh create our own remote control. Uh seventy five percent of the users find uh most remote controls ugly. Yeah, I think uh uh that's a lot, so we have to make a beautiful remote control. Uh eighty percent of users would spend when uh a remote control will l uh look fancy. I think this fits uh at the uh what what uh Michael said about uh older people. Older people will uh spend more money uh for uh something uh uh what's good. Because younger people are more critical uh about uh uh where they spend their money money at. Uh seventy five percent uh seventy five percent of the users say they zap a lot. Well okay, that's uh normal. I think uh we we have to make uh good zap buttons. But that's one of our requirements.
  Barbara Lopez: The last point is quite an interesting
  Ann Taylor: Yes, fifty percent of users say they only use ten percent of the buttons. Um Martijn
  Barbara Lopez: So if
  Ann Taylor: alr
  Barbara Lopez: we
  Ann Taylor: already said it.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: And uh maybe our uh fold open system is is a good one, but I don't think it's uh
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, we should have the ten percent
  Ann Taylor: reachable.
  Barbara Lopez: on the on the top, then you're you're
  Ann Taylor: Yeah, the ten percent on the
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: top, yeah. That that's a good one. Um uh page two. Remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room. That's exactly what we said about um maybe a home station for uh for it uh to uh recharge the batteries or something. Uh I thought mo maybe we could make a clap system, so when you clap your hands it will beep or something. Uh you must find it
  Tina Suero: Uh.
  Ann Taylor: uh quickly.
  Tina Suero: Maybe just a button on the home station. So remote control beeps when you click that button on the home station.
  Ann Taylor: Okay, yeah. Yeah, we can uh combine that. Uh it takes too much time to learn how to use a r new remote control. Uh I think we must t uh take a look at this. It's only uh th thirty four of the thirty four percent. But it's uh a tough one. Because if we make a ha whole new product, our own style, we we c uh this is so difficult, uh a difficulty I think. Uh next, remote controls are bad for R_S_I_. Yeah, but only if they zap a lot, and they watch over five hours T_V_ or something. I don't We we haven't Uh we mustn't look too much at uh the last point. Okay, last page. Uh the last uh experiment uh was about gadgets, like uh speech recognition. We didn't uh think about that already. And uh an L_C_D_ on the remote control. We already thought about that. Um uh they finally had a conclusion that younger people um uh under an age of f forty five are uh more interested in new features. And but they're more critical. And older people uh want to spend uh more money. But uh they uh they don't want to uh have a lot of uh new features, because they're in their old uh thinking way. And they want to keep the old uh things the old things.
  Barbara Lopez: So we have uh a new uh age
  Ann Taylor: But
  Barbara Lopez: of forty
  Ann Taylor: y But you
  Barbara Lopez: plus.
  Ann Taylor: but you already said that the uh company was about uh forty plus uh
  Barbara Lopez: People. So
  Ann Taylor: clients?
  Barbara Lopez: yeah, so we just can skip the L_C_D_
  Ann Taylor: I
  Barbara Lopez: r on the remote
  Ann Taylor: I
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: think
  Barbara Lopez: control,
  Ann Taylor: we
  Barbara Lopez: because
  Ann Taylor: can speak, uh we can skip speech recognition uh directly, because
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: it's not
  Barbara Lopez: It's
  Ann Taylor: reachable
  Barbara Lopez: too
  Ann Taylor: for
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: twenty five Euros.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: Um then I have my personal uh preference. Okay, that's not very good, because I thought about television, D_V_D_ player, stereo and V_C_R_. I had a question about. But it's already out of the question, this. Um my point is, well, I If we ma uh make a a remote uh control for only television, I think it's hard to uh sell it for twenty five Euros. But it's the exercise.
  Barbara Lopez: Because it's too expensive.
  Ann Taylor: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Ann Taylor: only
  Barbara Lopez: probably.
  Ann Taylor: only for television uh On the market you can now buy for twenty Euros a remote control for everything. And we only make it for television, so we mi mm we m must made it make it uh very special.
  Tina Suero: Yeah, but good usability, you can use it.
  Ann Taylor: Okay, I told about the home station. Uh it must be simple, because uh our the the elderly people uh needs to use it. And I I found a motto. And we put the fashion in electronics. And that's uh the motto we are uh referenced to uh for our uh our style We. we have to make a a new product. We have to be um Yeah. One of a kind, I think.
  Barbara Lopez: So it has to look uh uh
  Tina Suero: Unique.
  Barbara Lopez: uh unique,
  Ann Taylor: The company is
  Barbara Lopez: but
  Ann Taylor: about our uh th th their own fashion, their own style.
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: I reckon
  Barbara Lopez: But old people are not looking for that.
  Tina Suero: Uh I think
  Barbara Lopez: Not
  Tina Suero: mm
  Barbara Lopez: really.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: Uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: I think the main thing is the usability, that's where we can uh
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: make it
  Ann Taylor: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: a special product.
  Ann Taylor: to
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: k to keep it simple
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: when
  Tina Suero: But
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: you Sorry
  Tina Suero: uh
  Ann Taylor: I thought
  Tina Suero: we
  Ann Taylor: about
  Tina Suero: also
  Ann Taylor: it, yes.
  Tina Suero: have to stand out, 'cause there are already, like you said, so many controls out that support lot of stuff. But we have to make sure that we're better usability, and stand out by just looks of it. So make it just a different colour or different shape,
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: so
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: Okay, this was uh my presentation.
  Barbara Lopez: Thanks.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: I don't Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: So Paul,
  Ann Taylor: You can
  Barbara Lopez: you
  Ann Taylor: ask
  Barbara Lopez: can
  Ann Taylor: some
  Barbara Lopez: do
  Ann Taylor: questions
  Barbara Lopez: the next one if you want.
  Tina Suero: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: or something.
  Tina Suero: Yeah well Uh.
  Barbara Lopez: It's on the on the uh net net
  Tina Suero: There
  Barbara Lopez: uh
  Tina Suero: it is.
  Barbara Lopez: thing, isn't it?
  Tina Suero: Okay. Technical functions design. Okay, well, so we have s mm uh broad audience. Isn't that isn't true anymore. But um we have elderly people, so we need to keep it simple. Uh the way I want to keep it simple is to use the sen uh standard. So standardised uh methods like uh on all uh remote controls. Not too full, like uh Jens already said, only ten percent is being used.
  Barbara Lopez: So what do you think of only the numbers and the on-off button or
  Tina Suero: Yeah, I have it on the next page. But
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: yes uh basic functions like numbers and that sort of stuff. Um so the options that we put on there should be easy to use, and 'cause you have more room then, and for elderly people big buttons. Uh an icon on it or text on it, so it's very clear what that buttons does. So it doesn't take much time to figure out uh how to use it. Um a way to find out uh what people use is maybe just to use uh questionnaires on the internet or just ask some random people, elderly people what they use, what they want on a remote control
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: to find out. But there is already in a one done. Of functions I could think of. Uh volume, channels, the the basic according to. Just one two three etcetera. Uh text service options. Um basic on-off. And I found an uh Could I think of favourites? I always look up the same um pages on text and always have to click the number.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: But if you could make a new option, that you just have to press one button and you get on your
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, but then you have to remember what favourite is what channel. So you might as well remember the number. Or not?
  Tina Suero: No
  Barbara Lopez: Maybe
  Tina Suero: y
  Barbara Lopez: i maybe it's too complicated, but not sure.
  Tina Suero: Well
  Barbara Lopez: It's a good
  Tina Suero: it's
  Barbara Lopez: idea,
  Tina Suero: It
  Barbara Lopez: but
  Tina Suero: was just a thought. So I'm, I u I would find it handy, I think, when you just press one button and you get on six six six.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, okay. But um can you remember what uh channel uh connects to what
  Tina Suero: Well
  Consuelo Gilreath: favourite
  Tina Suero: uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: button?
  Barbara Lopez: Uh
  Tina Suero: what I was reading on the page. Uh a remote control just sends commands, basics commands to uh the television. So switch to channel six.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah?
  Tina Suero: So uh button six says says six. And if you make favourites, it can say six six six in a row. Just numbers. That
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah
  Tina Suero: can
  Consuelo Gilreath: okay.
  Tina Suero: be
  Consuelo Gilreath: But
  Tina Suero: in
  Consuelo Gilreath: uh
  Tina Suero: the
  Consuelo Gilreath: uh
  Tina Suero: in the
  Consuelo Gilreath: for a user to to remember, if I press that button it goes to that channel.
  Tina Suero: Well if you said a favourite
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, but isn't it hard to remember? Like favourite one and
  Barbara Lopez: Uh
  Tina Suero: Well
  Barbara Lopez: mayb
  Tina Suero: i
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm
  Barbara Lopez: for Ann Taylor it's
  Consuelo Gilreath: as
  Barbara Lopez: If
  Consuelo Gilreath: as
  Barbara Lopez: I
  Consuelo Gilreath: hard
  Barbara Lopez: use my telephone,
  Consuelo Gilreath: as
  Barbara Lopez: I never use those buttons to to to call
  Tina Suero: Never?
  Barbara Lopez: sh Never.
  Consuelo Gilreath: No, neither
  Tina Suero: Oh.
  Consuelo Gilreath: do I.
  Tina Suero: Oh
  Barbara Lopez: So
  Tina Suero: are you?
  Barbara Lopez: And
  Tina Suero: Okay now, m maybe not.
  Barbara Lopez: If I don't do it, maybe old people
  Tina Suero: No, maybe elderly people uh.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, I
  Tina Suero: Right.
  Consuelo Gilreath: dunno.
  Tina Suero: They don't like new features. So maybe not.
  Ann Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Tina Suero: Um well play, pause. I dunno if that's usable
  Barbara Lopez: It's not, it's
  Tina Suero: when
  Barbara Lopez: still not It's not anymore n
  Tina Suero: Not
  Barbara Lopez: uh
  Tina Suero: anymore for T_V_. Right, on off. I dunno, miss Did I miss any other buttons, basic buttons?
  Ann Taylor: Um
  Tina Suero: I couldn't think of any other, 'specially not for T_V_.
  Barbara Lopez: Just on the front as well. No, that's the only th the only thing you need.
  Tina Suero: Is
  Consuelo Gilreath: Uh uh the p uh next and previous. Previous I know, but next channel?
  Tina Suero: Just the
  Consuelo Gilreath: I
  Tina Suero: channel
  Consuelo Gilreath: don't thi
  Tina Suero: um uh What I mean is
  Ann Taylor: Forward.
  Tina Suero: uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: Li like a web
  Tina Suero: Six
  Consuelo Gilreath: browser,
  Tina Suero: seven
  Consuelo Gilreath: so
  Tina Suero: eight
  Consuelo Gilreath: Oh, okay.
  Tina Suero: or
  Barbara Lopez: Just
  Tina Suero: five.
  Consuelo Gilreath: But
  Barbara Lopez: very
  Consuelo Gilreath: uh
  Barbara Lopez: simple.
  Consuelo Gilreath: um there's also a button to uh go to the channel you've been before. Like a web browser back
  Tina Suero: Um
  Consuelo Gilreath: button.
  Tina Suero: I dunno.
  Barbara Lopez: Uh
  Tina Suero: I don't have Uh
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: I
  Barbara Lopez: I
  Tina Suero: did
  Barbara Lopez: know what it is, but I think it's all
  Ann Taylor: No.
  Barbara Lopez: too difficult
  Tina Suero: Yeah, I don't
  Barbara Lopez: for old
  Tina Suero: think you
  Barbara Lopez: people.
  Tina Suero: use
  Ann Taylor: Uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: that. Y only
  Consuelo Gilreath: okay.
  Tina Suero: when you want to go to Yeah, just use uh when you wanna switch between channels all the time.
  Barbara Lopez: And
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: how do you want to uh do it, like if you have a channel above ten? Normally you can press one,
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: zero
  Tina Suero: I think
  Barbara Lopez: or
  Tina Suero: um f Especially for older peo elderly people use standard buttons. So you have that uh
  Barbara Lopez: A ten plus or
  Tina Suero: Yeah, the ten plus button. Just uh one one pressing, or quickly after each other.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: To just keep it simple and standard uh features.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, w wouldn't it be a problem to uh Because you h have to be fast enough. Maybe the elderly people
  Tina Suero: Uh yeah mayb
  Ann Taylor: It gets some seconds.
  Tina Suero: But I think that's in the T_V_ as well. That's how the uh the T_V_ T_V_ handles it. But you can have a button that says um two
  Ann Taylor: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: Oh
  Ann Taylor: it's
  Consuelo Gilreath: okay.
  Ann Taylor: it's no
  Tina Suero: two st
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: it's
  Tina Suero: two
  Ann Taylor: not
  Tina Suero: stripes.
  Ann Taylor: a
  Tina Suero: So you have uh like a
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, but
  Tina Suero: five
  Consuelo Gilreath: that's
  Tina Suero: seconds
  Consuelo Gilreath: th mm
  Tina Suero: period to press those two buttons.
  Ann Taylor: It's what Paul says. It's not a remote control uh uh that um uh makes the T_V_ um do one two. It's the T_V_ who depends that it must
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: be two seconds or three seconds or one second that you must uh type one
  Tina Suero: So if
  Ann Taylor: or
  Tina Suero: you
  Ann Taylor: two.
  Tina Suero: have a
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: universal T_V_ controller, you needed one button that has two uh stripes.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: So we have a a period of, I dunno, five seconds to press those buttons, and that
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: And not for elderly people to look, one two uh press and aim and
  Barbara Lopez: But do we still need a two level remote control? Because if we only have
  Ann Taylor: It's
  Barbara Lopez: that
  Ann Taylor: only
  Barbara Lopez: l
  Ann Taylor: for television now.
  Tina Suero: So
  Barbara Lopez: only
  Tina Suero: I I
  Barbara Lopez: f
  Tina Suero: don't think so.
  Barbara Lopez: No.
  Ann Taylor: No.
  Tina Suero: Uh I just thought of another one. Most things in modern T_V_s are also on the menu.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: So you also need a menu button. And then uh navigation uh But we can
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: integrate that with volume and previous and next, so you have
  Consuelo Gilreath: I I think you ha
  Tina Suero: four
  Consuelo Gilreath: really
  Tina Suero: arrows.
  Consuelo Gilreath: have to divide between functions you often use, like um uh m maybe uh switch channels and uh volume and k that kind of things, and uh the menu button. Because you n almost never use menu button.
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: So
  Tina Suero: okay, but um
  Barbara Lopez: Maybe it's still still a good idea, I'm not sure. You'll also have to use a mute button to to
  Tina Suero: mute button. Yes.
  Barbara Lopez: Maybe,
  Tina Suero: Don't think
  Barbara Lopez: not
  Tina Suero: so.
  Barbara Lopez: I don't know where where you have to put it.
  Tina Suero: Yeah well, that's that's I think that's the layers that produce. Now I have to figure out what's uh what to put on.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: What we're
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: gonna use.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: That's right.
  Tina Suero: And later we can d uh do the design. Okay, uh now my personal preferences. Uh using the standards, basic Um I think that we should stand out uh unique, being unique with the design. So we have to, I dunno, uh make a different shape than usual. So when you are in the shop and you see our T_V_ controller hanging, that it stands out. Not just in in the row when you see all the same uh remote controls.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah. Does
  Tina Suero: Um
  Barbara Lopez: it have to be Uh it has to be uh with different colours or
  Tina Suero: I dunno. Different colours um
  Ann Taylor: Maybe we can give it out in different colours. You can choose blue
  Barbara Lopez: It's like
  Ann Taylor: or
  Barbara Lopez: a
  Ann Taylor: yellow
  Barbara Lopez: iMac
  Ann Taylor: or
  Barbara Lopez: or something. Just to
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm-hmm.
  Barbara Lopez: make it
  Tina Suero: Yeah. Well why not? Or
  Ann Taylor: That's
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: fa That's fancy. That's uh fashion.
  Barbara Lopez: But it looks cheap as well, because it's a small thing. It's only twenty five Euros. It looks very cheap if you make it
  Tina Suero: Well, maybe you can look at uh mobile phones.
  Barbara Lopez: Oh, you just I dunno
  Tina Suero: Oh.
  Barbara Lopez: what happened.
  Tina Suero: Who?
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, we have to look at mobile phones, that's right.
  Tina Suero: They
  Barbara Lopez: Just
  Tina Suero: they're uh designed very well. And
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: well basically are the same, just a bit smaller. You think you can't make a T_V_ controller too small, 'cause then you will always lo always lose it.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: But uh well, I think that's a good example.
  Ann Taylor: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay, we hurry up a bit, because otherwise
  Tina Suero: Okay,
  Barbara Lopez: we won't make
  Tina Suero: sorry.
  Barbara Lopez: it. Is
  Tina Suero: Well
  Barbara Lopez: it fin Are you finished?
  Tina Suero: uh
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: Yeah, I I'm finished. I think we discussed everything.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay. Well, the working design. The method I used is uh search the web. Just the web page provided. Um Basically I'm I'm not very technical uh uh educated, but uh I could figure it out. Um basically what happens is you press a button, uh then a circuit gets closed by pressing the button, uh like a switch. And by closing that certain circuit, the chip knows uh what bu button is pressed. So like you press a one, that circuit is closed and uh Then the chip produces a pattern. Like a Morse code to uh And and sends that to the uh L_E_D_. That's the uh light emitting diode, I think. Um and the light emitting diode is uh producing infrared light. That's un uh invisible to the human eye. And uh transmit that uh to the T_V_. However it has also an uh a visible uh diode that's uh blinking red if you look in it.
  Ann Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Consuelo Gilreath: And that's uh another diode, I believe. Because infrared is not visible. So that's er uh do two different
  Barbara Lopez: So
  Consuelo Gilreath: things but
  Barbara Lopez: also have to have a LED li
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: LED
  Consuelo Gilreath: I I think
  Barbara Lopez: light
  Consuelo Gilreath: so.
  Barbara Lopez: on it?
  Tina Suero: Uh j
  Consuelo Gilreath: I I'm not sure if
  Tina Suero: Is
  Consuelo Gilreath: it's the
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: same
  Barbara Lopez: it's
  Consuelo Gilreath: thing.
  Barbara Lopez: I think
  Tina Suero: Ain't
  Barbara Lopez: it's
  Tina Suero: it
  Barbara Lopez: usable.
  Tina Suero: just to to indicate that it's
  Ann Taylor: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: transmitting?
  Ann Taylor: that's active.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: So
  Barbara Lopez: Or just a green one, because it's If you use it, it's green or the red, it's r green.
  Tina Suero: Yeah. Maybe uh
  Ann Taylor: I I think it's in the case that it's active. It's not uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, when
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: you
  Barbara Lopez: that's
  Consuelo Gilreath: press
  Barbara Lopez: right. But
  Consuelo Gilreath: it.
  Barbara Lopez: if you
  Consuelo Gilreath: So
  Ann Taylor: I it's it's just uh the the
  Consuelo Gilreath: Two?
  Barbara Lopez: Red's l shows up like something's wrong, and green is like it's okay, you press
  Ann Taylor: Mm.
  Barbara Lopez: the button.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, I dunno.
  Tina Suero: Maybe
  Consuelo Gilreath: Ma on
  Tina Suero: depends
  Consuelo Gilreath: on most
  Tina Suero: on uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: on most uh uh remote controls it's red.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: So
  Barbara Lopez: I
  Tina Suero: Yes.
  Ann Taylor: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: know. Okay, we make it red.
  Consuelo Gilreath: So
  Tina Suero: But maybe
  Consuelo Gilreath: I know.
  Tina Suero: Well we don't have to make it red. Maybe integrate it in the design as well.
  Barbara Lopez: You have to The whole the whole uh remote control becomes uh green if you press the buttons. Uh that's cool.
  Tina Suero: Uh Oh, maybe it's it is would an
  Consuelo Gilreath: I
  Tina Suero: e
  Consuelo Gilreath: I
  Tina Suero: No.
  Consuelo Gilreath: think uh the batteries will
  Tina Suero: Just
  Consuelo Gilreath: be
  Tina Suero: uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: uh a
  Barbara Lopez: No, we have
  Consuelo Gilreath: little
  Barbara Lopez: a recharger
  Ann Taylor: Empty.
  Barbara Lopez: in it,
  Tina Suero: Oh.
  Barbara Lopez: so
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, okay. Uh
  Barbara Lopez: If
  Consuelo Gilreath: maybe.
  Barbara Lopez: we can still make that then
  Tina Suero: Yeah, but it doesn't have to be red. It's just to indicate something's
  Ann Taylor: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: on.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah. That it's working. That it's not
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: not the
  Barbara Lopez: But
  Consuelo Gilreath: batteries
  Barbara Lopez: it's cool
  Tina Suero: It's
  Consuelo Gilreath: are
  Barbara Lopez: if
  Consuelo Gilreath: low.
  Barbara Lopez: it was
  Tina Suero: it's
  Barbara Lopez: green.
  Tina Suero: not very important,
  Barbara Lopez: Green or
  Tina Suero: so
  Barbara Lopez: red or whatever, it
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: is cool.
  Tina Suero: yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: I know. Just to indicate it's working.
  Tina Suero: So mm
  Consuelo Gilreath: And uh the receptor in the T_V_ senses the pattern. So we have to understand what patterns are used to, you know, to make it universal. So that it can be used with all the T_V_s. We have to really understand what patterns are used, so we can uh o On the Otherwise it won't work.
  Tina Suero: So we have to uh make buttons for that as well, to make
  Consuelo Gilreath: No.
  Tina Suero: it
  Consuelo Gilreath: I
  Tina Suero: uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: I uh The chip um uh is producing the pattern. So we have to make a chip that produces patterns to,
  Tina Suero: Okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: y you know, to
  Ann Taylor: An automatically
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah. That are
  Ann Taylor: search
  Consuelo Gilreath: working.
  Ann Taylor: function for each television, or
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah,
  Ann Taylor: something.
  Consuelo Gilreath: or I dunno how it's uh exactly how it works. It wasn't explained there.
  Tina Suero: Well,
  Ann Taylor: Uh I
  Tina Suero: I
  Ann Taylor: kno
  Tina Suero: I use a universal uh remote control, and list of all the T_V_s you have, etcetera. And you have to put in a number,
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah?
  Tina Suero: so it works on your T_V_.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: Oh, I have a modern one. And the modern one you you uh you type uh search, and the LED began to blink blink blink. And uh uh uh after uh a short time the television turns off. And then you know, oh it it's the right one. And you can stop it, and then it's okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Ah okay.
  Ann Taylor: So you don't have to search for your television or your code.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: It uh search uh the pattern for itself.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay,
  Tina Suero: Okay,
  Consuelo Gilreath: yeah.
  Tina Suero: so we use that.
  Consuelo Gilreath: So it uh We have to make a a s a bit more intelligent chip than the standard one.
  Ann Taylor: Yes.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Because
  Tina Suero: Yep.
  Consuelo Gilreath: you have to Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: I just say Can you s just say it again, because I was just looking
  Consuelo Gilreath: Uh
  Barbara Lopez: There's
  Consuelo Gilreath: okay.
  Barbara Lopez: just a short
  Consuelo Gilreath: Well uh y you have this chip.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: That's uh when the circuit is closed,
  Barbara Lopez: Mm-hmm.
  Consuelo Gilreath: it produces the pattern. But uh ma basically for uh brands of T_V_ these patterns are different. So like when you press a one on one T_V_ it go go to one. And on the other T_V_ it won't work, basically. So uh basically what you have to do is uh get these patterns right.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: And uh by d uh that can be done by uh just uh
  Ann Taylor: Changing the
  Consuelo Gilreath: cha
  Ann Taylor: signal.
  Consuelo Gilreath: yeah, changing this pattern all the time. And um What he's doing when he's configuring this pattern, this chip, uh is trying to switch off the television. And when it's uh switched off, you can push a button as uh it's working now, so And then he saves that setting
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: and
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: then um it's working.
  Ann Taylor: Yeah, that's the right uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay.
  Ann Taylor: option.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Well uh the components. Yeah, that's a bit technical, and I hadn't I w I was a little short on time. Um but I think I understand it Um. the energy source is uh the battery, basically.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Um that's connecting to all the components. Because it has to be fed with energy. Okay. Uh the subcomponent is uh w I I think it is uh the button pressed. So basically when you press a button, a switch get closed. Um that's connecting to a chip. So the chip knows what button you pressed. And the chip sends out uh the pattern to the infrared bulb. I didn didn't put the description by this one. Th this is a normal bulb. So the normal flashing light.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay. So that's the LED,
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: L_E_D_.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, and this is a LED too. But this one is producing infrared light
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: that's invisible. And this one is producing normal light.
  Barbara Lopez: So we can make the normal one also a normal light. Not a LED light, but as a normal one.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah
  Barbara Lopez: To flash up your
  Ann Taylor: Uh if you if you use the buttons, uh both of them works. But one you can't see and one indicates that you use a button.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, presu Yeah yeah yeah. Because uh when you button press a button and it doesn't work, it can Basically if the battery is low, it
  Ann Taylor: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: won't work.
  Ann Taylor: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: So
  Ann Taylor: and
  Consuelo Gilreath: you have to indicate that it's
  Barbara Lopez: Maybe you have to uh put uh a small light around the button you push. So you see green if you push that button.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Huh,
  Ann Taylor: Mm I
  Consuelo Gilreath: that's
  Ann Taylor: think
  Consuelo Gilreath: a good
  Ann Taylor: it's
  Consuelo Gilreath: idea.
  Ann Taylor: unnecessary power uh you use then.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, but if you
  Tina Suero: No,
  Barbara Lopez: u if
  Tina Suero: y
  Barbara Lopez: you do that, you
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: know that you're uh sending a signal.
  Ann Taylor: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: And it's you
  Ann Taylor: But
  Barbara Lopez: also
  Ann Taylor: then have
  Barbara Lopez: know
  Ann Taylor: to be
  Barbara Lopez: which
  Ann Taylor: on
  Barbara Lopez: button
  Ann Taylor: the
  Barbara Lopez: you
  Ann Taylor: in
  Barbara Lopez: p
  Ann Taylor: the all uh remote control have to be LEDs.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, that's right. But
  Ann Taylor: Everywhere
  Barbara Lopez: it
  Ann Taylor: in the r
  Barbara Lopez: But does it make any difference for the energy you use? You got
  Tina Suero: No
  Barbara Lopez: still
  Tina Suero: I don't
  Barbara Lopez: one
  Tina Suero: think
  Barbara Lopez: LED.
  Tina Suero: so, but Yeah, i it it will look different, and I think we need to find something else.
  Barbara Lopez: That looks different, yeah.
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Hmm.
  Tina Suero: 'Cause otherwise we will just make another standard, and our uh motto also is
  Ann Taylor: Is LEDs uh beneath the the buttons?
  Tina Suero: Yeah, w around the buttons, or in the buttons even.
  Ann Taylor: Yeah, okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, but mm like when you push it
  Tina Suero: Yeah, then then
  Consuelo Gilreath: n
  Tina Suero: won't
  Consuelo Gilreath: n
  Tina Suero: Then you
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: won't see it.
  Consuelo Gilreath: You have your finger over the button. So you can see
  Ann Taylor: It must be around it then.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah. Or or m maybe on top of the A green
  Ann Taylor: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: light
  Ann Taylor: then
  Consuelo Gilreath: is flashing
  Ann Taylor: Yeah. Not
  Consuelo Gilreath: or
  Ann Taylor: not not not here, but
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: here.
  Consuelo Gilreath: There. Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: Maybe uh
  Barbara Lopez: The same as a telephone, or a mobile phone, or
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: what
  Tina Suero: we're
  Barbara Lopez: do
  Tina Suero: thinking
  Barbara Lopez: you mean?
  Tina Suero: about it. Uh on
  Barbara Lopez: If you
  Tina Suero: a mobile
  Barbara Lopez: push
  Tina Suero: phone, in the dark uh
  Barbara Lopez: It lights up. Everything lights up.
  Tina Suero: everything
  Barbara Lopez: That's a good
  Tina Suero: lights
  Barbara Lopez: idea.
  Tina Suero: up.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: Why ain't that on a remote
  Barbara Lopez: It
  Tina Suero: control?
  Barbara Lopez: it only takes a l a little energy
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: and it's not
  Tina Suero: if
  Barbara Lopez: that
  Tina Suero: uh
  Barbara Lopez: much.
  Tina Suero: a mobile
  Ann Taylor: Okay.
  Tina Suero: phone a phone can do it, it's
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: It's f Yeah. Maybe that's a good idea for old people as well.
  Tina Suero: Yeah, i
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm-hmm.
  Tina Suero: if you're in the dark, you can't see the remote.
  Barbara Lopez: It's only
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: few LEDs. Only four or something. Four LED.
  Tina Suero: No, I dunno. But if we use a battery station, which I think we will use
  Ann Taylor: Yeah, I uh
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, that's a good idea,
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: We'll have enough power to
  Barbara Lopez: Everything agre Everyone agrees with that, or
  Ann Taylor: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: Yep.
  Ann Taylor: Maybe what Paul said, uh under the on
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Ann Taylor: the
  Barbara Lopez: and then
  Ann Taylor: on
  Barbara Lopez: you
  Ann Taylor: the home station, uh a button to uh to call your uh remote control, that
  Barbara Lopez: Okay,
  Ann Taylor: it beeps.
  Barbara Lopez: yeah.
  Tina Suero: And also
  Barbara Lopez: But you
  Tina Suero: it's
  Barbara Lopez: have to make a sound device in it then.
  Ann Taylor: Yeah, there must be sound in it.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Hmm.
  Barbara Lopez: But Yeah.
  Tina Suero: Okay,
  Ann Taylor: I dunno.
  Tina Suero: it shouldn't take
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: much
  Consuelo Gilreath: B maybe it's that that's a little too hard to make. Especially for that kind of money. Because
  Ann Taylor: Mm
  Consuelo Gilreath: it's
  Ann Taylor: uh,
  Consuelo Gilreath: i
  Ann Taylor: twenty
  Consuelo Gilreath: it
  Ann Taylor: five
  Consuelo Gilreath: has
  Ann Taylor: Euros,
  Consuelo Gilreath: to be
  Ann Taylor: I think we can
  Tina Suero: Uh
  Ann Taylor: make
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: I
  Consuelo Gilreath: Production
  Tina Suero: th
  Ann Taylor: it.
  Consuelo Gilreath: cost
  Ann Taylor: Bec
  Consuelo Gilreath: is uh t uh twelve and a half.
  Ann Taylor: Twelve and a half, okay. But but we only have to make it for television, and
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, okay.
  Ann Taylor: um
  Tina Suero: I think
  Ann Taylor: we must have something
  Tina Suero: uh
  Ann Taylor: special.
  Tina Suero: you also
  Ann Taylor: So
  Tina Suero: have uh remote controls with a lot of options. But we lose about ninety percent of those options. So
  Ann Taylor: Uh.
  Tina Suero: I think you can uh
  Ann Taylor: We have to give our customers some extras.
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: I
  Consuelo Gilreath: okay.
  Tina Suero: think we will save money with that.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay. Are you almost finished or just
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, the the personal preference, I didn't fill it out. Because
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: I was short on time.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay. No worry.
  Consuelo Gilreath: But um Basically what we could do too is uh have a Bluetooth uh integration.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, I just want to talk some about some more. So maybe you
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah?
  Barbara Lopez: have to Yeah?
  Consuelo Gilreath: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: So this Oh, sorry. Wh what's that? So uh Oh, sorry. We have some new uh project requirements. We have to have a look what they are. They're still in um Uh teletext has become outdated since the popularity of internet. So a teletext option, maybe we have to skip that one. I'm not sure. I don't
  Consuelo Gilreath: No,
  Barbara Lopez: think
  Ann Taylor: No.
  Barbara Lopez: so,
  Consuelo Gilreath: and I
  Barbara Lopez: but
  Consuelo Gilreath: I think a lot of people use
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: uh teletext,
  Barbara Lopez: and it's it's on your
  Consuelo Gilreath: still
  Barbara Lopez: comp it's on
  Consuelo Gilreath: use.
  Barbara Lopez: your television. It's only one button. So I
  Ann Taylor: Uh.
  Barbara Lopez: don't think
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: it is
  Consuelo Gilreath: Hmm.
  Barbara Lopez: We definitely should use it. Um Yeah, that's uh what I told you. The remote control should only be used for a television. So that's maybe easier. And um the the forty plus people, I already told you. Oh no, sorry. Oh, this is a problem. Oh sorry about that. The new product should reach a new market with customers are the younger than forty. So it should be flashy or just
  Ann Taylor: Okay.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Oh.
  Barbara Lopez: more interesting.
  Tina Suero: Okay,
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm.
  Tina Suero: that's It changes
  Barbara Lopez: I'm sorry about
  Tina Suero: things.
  Barbara Lopez: that. I just I just didn't read it well. So does it make some
  Ann Taylor: Changes.
  Barbara Lopez: decision about that?
  Tina Suero: Um
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah. That kinda changes
  Ann Taylor: Uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: the whole situation.
  Tina Suero: Well yeah, then we have to make some nice features. I think uh the thing in the dark is a good way, to make it more
  Barbara Lopez: That still
  Tina Suero: like
  Barbara Lopez: stays.
  Tina Suero: a mobile phone.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: More modern.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: That's important I think and
  Ann Taylor: L_C_D_ doesn't work for uh twelve and a half Euros I think.
  Tina Suero: And I d I don't don't think it's very usable in a remote control, especially when you only have T_V_ functions on
  Ann Taylor: Oh.
  Tina Suero: it.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm
  Tina Suero: So
  Consuelo Gilreath: ah I I don't y you'll use it often, because you can see on the television
  Ann Taylor: Oh,
  Consuelo Gilreath: wh what
  Ann Taylor: I'm
  Consuelo Gilreath: channel
  Ann Taylor: watching
  Consuelo Gilreath: you
  Ann Taylor: uh the channel one. Okay. No,
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Ann Taylor: it's
  Tina Suero: I
  Ann Taylor: not
  Tina Suero: tho I think that's not usable.
  Consuelo Gilreath: No.
  Tina Suero: So, but uh Yeah. What other features can we put in?
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah. I think you you have to make it a bit flashy and and popular. And uh then the usability is not that required, because the Like in the mobile phones, usability is not that
  Ann Taylor: But
  Consuelo Gilreath: good I
  Ann Taylor: uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: think.
  Ann Taylor: some of you had uh something to read about um uh speech uh recognition. About you said one and the television turns on one. Is that reachable maybe? That's very
  Consuelo Gilreath: I didn't
  Ann Taylor: That's
  Consuelo Gilreath: read
  Ann Taylor: fancy. That's cool.
  Tina Suero: It's
  Consuelo Gilreath: I
  Tina Suero: very
  Ann Taylor: Twelve
  Consuelo Gilreath: didn't
  Tina Suero: fashion.
  Consuelo Gilreath: read
  Ann Taylor: and
  Consuelo Gilreath: any b
  Ann Taylor: you've
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: got twelve.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah okay.
  Tina Suero: Mm.
  Ann Taylor: Only
  Consuelo Gilreath: I
  Ann Taylor: the
  Consuelo Gilreath: I
  Ann Taylor: numbers,
  Consuelo Gilreath: know.
  Ann Taylor: only numbers. Uh furthermore nothing. But only the numbers, one to twenty or something.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm.
  Ann Taylor: That should be cool.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, maybe we have to integrate that as well. If it's possible.
  Ann Taylor: If it's
  Barbara Lopez: But
  Ann Taylor: possible, I dunno.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, I
  Ann Taylor: I
  Consuelo Gilreath: don't
  Ann Taylor: didn't
  Consuelo Gilreath: know.
  Barbara Lopez: I don't
  Ann Taylor: read
  Barbara Lopez: think
  Ann Taylor: it.
  Barbara Lopez: it's
  Tina Suero: Mm.
  Barbara Lopez: very expensive actually. Why should it?
  Ann Taylor: Uh if
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Ann Taylor: i
  Tina Suero: I think
  Barbara Lopez: You
  Ann Taylor: if
  Barbara Lopez: only
  Ann Taylor: i
  Barbara Lopez: have a
  Tina Suero: it's
  Barbara Lopez: microphone in it.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: I didn't have
  Consuelo Gilreath: But
  Ann Taylor: information
  Consuelo Gilreath: it has
  Ann Taylor: about
  Consuelo Gilreath: to
  Ann Taylor: that.
  Consuelo Gilreath: work. And and and does it have to work only in English, or in Dutch too
  Barbara Lopez: Nah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: or
  Barbara Lopez: maybe
  Ann Taylor: Ah that's a problem, but
  Consuelo Gilreath: And and
  Ann Taylor: Uh only
  Consuelo Gilreath: uh
  Ann Taylor: in
  Consuelo Gilreath: w
  Ann Taylor: English.
  Tina Suero: What
  Ann Taylor: Only
  Tina Suero: But
  Ann Taylor: in English
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah?
  Tina Suero: uh
  Ann Taylor: I think.
  Tina Suero: I dunno how that works then. Uh does your
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: it's
  Tina Suero: Does
  Consuelo Gilreath: probably
  Tina Suero: it lie
  Consuelo Gilreath: my
  Tina Suero: in the
  Consuelo Gilreath: job
  Tina Suero: centre
  Consuelo Gilreath: to
  Tina Suero: of
  Consuelo Gilreath: figure
  Tina Suero: the room
  Consuelo Gilreath: that out,
  Tina Suero: and
  Consuelo Gilreath: but
  Tina Suero: can you scream from wherever
  Ann Taylor: No,
  Tina Suero: uh one
  Ann Taylor: that
  Tina Suero: to have in channel
  Ann Taylor: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: one?
  Ann Taylor: then th we have to think about that. But do do we do it? It's
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Ann Taylor: more
  Tina Suero: I dunno.
  Ann Taylor: if we
  Tina Suero: So,
  Ann Taylor: if we do it.
  Tina Suero: is it very usable? That's what I'm looking at.
  Consuelo Gilreath: And and do you have to speak in in like in
  Ann Taylor: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: a thing or
  Tina Suero: Is
  Barbara Lopez: Maybe maybe it's too hard to uh to realise that. It We have short
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: time
  Consuelo Gilreath: I dunno.
  Barbara Lopez: to to put it on the market, so that
  Ann Taylor: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: We
  Tina Suero: Mm
  Barbara Lopez: have to
  Tina Suero: Yeah
  Barbara Lopez: do a
  Tina Suero: well
  Barbara Lopez: lot of testing before we can do that.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, I think so.
  Barbara Lopez: We
  Ann Taylor: Yeah, and
  Barbara Lopez: make
  Ann Taylor: uh and
  Barbara Lopez: uh make
  Ann Taylor: uh
  Barbara Lopez: uh, we can make
  Tina Suero: It's
  Barbara Lopez: th th the new remote control very flashy.
  Ann Taylor: In uh indeed uh the languages are a difficult thing. Uh because
  Tina Suero: I
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: d
  Ann Taylor: we we
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: have
  Tina Suero: I don't
  Ann Taylor: a lot
  Tina Suero: think
  Ann Taylor: of
  Consuelo Gilreath: And
  Ann Taylor: languages.
  Tina Suero: it's
  Consuelo Gilreath: and
  Tina Suero: uh useful enough to take the effort to design something with uh speech recognition.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: and also
  Barbara Lopez: I think
  Consuelo Gilreath: if
  Barbara Lopez: so.
  Consuelo Gilreath: if you have a good speech uh speech recognition, you can just throw
  Ann Taylor: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: the uh
  Ann Taylor: A uh someone says that
  Consuelo Gilreath: the remote
  Ann Taylor: uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: away.
  Ann Taylor: give Ann Taylor one Coke, and the
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm.
  Ann Taylor: T_V_ turns
  Consuelo Gilreath: Hmm.
  Ann Taylor: uh to one.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm.
  Ann Taylor: Yeah, it's not
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: uh
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: Well
  Consuelo Gilreath: okay.
  Tina Suero: yeah, that's the right command. And
  Consuelo Gilreath: But
  Tina Suero: then you have to say uh T_V_ channel one, or something.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Hmm
  Tina Suero: Not
  Consuelo Gilreath: yeah,
  Tina Suero: just one, but
  Consuelo Gilreath: T_V_
  Ann Taylor: Okay, but
  Consuelo Gilreath: one.
  Ann Taylor: th that becomes your f Uh uh because that's very hard for uh speech recognition.
  Tina Suero: Well
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: I dunno. But I don't think, it just ain't useful enough.
  Ann Taylor: Mm-hmm.
  Barbara Lopez: So we have to make some decisions. So you
  Ann Taylor: Okay,
  Barbara Lopez: can see
  Ann Taylor: no speech
  Barbara Lopez: on the
  Ann Taylor: recognition.
  Barbara Lopez: uh So we have to know what we're going to put on. Do we, do we make uh a light under the under the n under the numbers and everything? Do
  Tina Suero: Yeah, I think
  Barbara Lopez: If
  Tina Suero: so.
  Barbara Lopez: you press something, it lights up for a few seconds, so you can see what other but buttons there are, okay?
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, that's good.
  Tina Suero: Yep.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay, we just take that one. And what else, we have
  Tina Suero: Also the one in the dark. So uh It lights up when it's dark?
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: I
  Barbara Lopez: but
  Tina Suero: didn't
  Barbara Lopez: it's Oh th I thought would, that that would be the same. If you
  Tina Suero: Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: push something,
  Ann Taylor: Yeah. Yeah
  Barbara Lopez: it
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: it
  Ann Taylor: yeah,
  Tina Suero: but
  Barbara Lopez: all
  Ann Taylor: it
  Barbara Lopez: lights
  Tina Suero: um
  Barbara Lopez: up.
  Ann Taylor: it mustn't work all the time.
  Tina Suero: Yes,
  Ann Taylor: It uh
  Tina Suero: that's
  Ann Taylor: uh it
  Tina Suero: what
  Ann Taylor: have
  Tina Suero: I mean.
  Ann Taylor: to work only when you use it. So
  Barbara Lopez: Or
  Ann Taylor: if
  Barbara Lopez: you can
  Ann Taylor: you
  Barbara Lopez: switch it on or something.
  Ann Taylor: No,
  Tina Suero: Or
  Ann Taylor: if
  Tina Suero: maybe
  Ann Taylor: you use
  Tina Suero: when you
  Ann Taylor: one button,
  Tina Suero: yeah.
  Ann Taylor: it must turn uh
  Tina Suero: It
  Ann Taylor: on
  Tina Suero: lights
  Ann Taylor: for
  Tina Suero: up all.
  Ann Taylor: twenty seconds,
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, that's
  Ann Taylor: and
  Barbara Lopez: right.
  Ann Taylor: then
  Barbara Lopez: You
  Ann Taylor: it
  Barbara Lopez: have
  Ann Taylor: must
  Barbara Lopez: to
  Ann Taylor: turn off.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah, that's right. That's what
  Tina Suero: Okay
  Barbara Lopez: I said. It's
  Tina Suero: yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: the
  Tina Suero: D
  Barbara Lopez: same as the telephone.
  Tina Suero: Yeah, alright.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Barbara Lopez: And do we use a a Uh what's it called? Like a iMac, if you can look through it. Or just a normal
  Tina Suero: Maybe
  Consuelo Gilreath: Mm,
  Barbara Lopez: remote control.
  Consuelo Gilreath: maybe
  Tina Suero: just as an
  Consuelo Gilreath: it's
  Tina Suero: option,
  Consuelo Gilreath: a good idea.
  Tina Suero: w like we discussed, like iPod. Different colours, uh maybe use even different fonts.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: Oh yeah.
  Tina Suero: Like uh phones.
  Barbara Lopez: Different colours. Okay, so
  Consuelo Gilreath: Hmm.
  Barbara Lopez: y
  Ann Taylor: A see-through.
  Barbara Lopez: you just make it th through
  Ann Taylor: Mm,
  Barbara Lopez: You look
  Tina Suero: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: that's
  Barbara Lopez: through
  Ann Taylor: cool.
  Barbara Lopez: it?
  Tina Suero: Uh
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: as an option maybe.
  Barbara Lopez: And so the buttons we have, this is, yeah, this is normal. We put in
  Tina Suero: It's the
  Barbara Lopez: the
  Tina Suero: standard
  Barbara Lopez: the simple buttons on the top, and probably
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: the the
  Tina Suero: uh
  Barbara Lopez: the more complicated buttons
  Ann Taylor: But you have
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Ann Taylor: You
  Barbara Lopez: down
  Tina Suero: we
  Ann Taylor: had
  Tina Suero: but
  Ann Taylor: a lot
  Tina Suero: we
  Ann Taylor: of
  Tina Suero: don't
  Barbara Lopez: there.
  Ann Taylor: different buttons.
  Tina Suero: We don't really
  Consuelo Gilreath: Hmm.
  Tina Suero: have any
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Tina Suero: complicated
  Barbara Lopez: maybe you
  Tina Suero: buttons.
  Barbara Lopez: have you have to Uh when you use teletec teletext, you can press a green or a red button
  Tina Suero: Yeah
  Barbara Lopez: to
  Tina Suero: okay,
  Barbara Lopez: go to
  Tina Suero: but
  Barbara Lopez: the next one, or to go
  Tina Suero: Yeah,
  Barbara Lopez: to the previous
  Tina Suero: well
  Barbara Lopez: one.
  Tina Suero: w I think the buttons are very easy. With just uh standard buttons we just have so
  Barbara Lopez: O but maybe you
  Tina Suero: little
  Barbara Lopez: can put um the g the options of teletext on the second level of the remote control.
  Tina Suero: No, I don't
  Barbara Lopez: Because
  Tina Suero: need
  Barbara Lopez: you ne
  Tina Suero: don't
  Barbara Lopez: almost
  Tina Suero: need
  Barbara Lopez: never use it.
  Tina Suero: Uh teletext options are only four buttons or something.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah, but younger people I think um more often use the internet and elderly people often use teletext.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah,
  Consuelo Gilreath: So
  Barbara Lopez: that's
  Tina Suero: I use
  Ann Taylor: No,
  Barbara Lopez: right.
  Consuelo Gilreath: uh
  Tina Suero: teletext
  Ann Taylor: I use
  Tina Suero: as well.
  Ann Taylor: te teletext every day, I think.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Hmm. Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah. For Ann Taylor too, it is. So we just keep it one level then?
  Tina Suero: Yeah yeah, one
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: level.
  Ann Taylor: Mm.
  Tina Suero: And I think, uh 'cause um we don't have that many buttons, I think the design is most important.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: You can d uh integrate the buttons in the design very much.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Tina Suero: 'Cause simple buttons. If you
  Barbara Lopez: Okay.
  Tina Suero: put one above it, it's clear.
  Barbara Lopez: Okay. So that's it for toda for We're going to have a lunch lunch break. Um
  Tina Suero: How long is lunch break?
  Barbara Lopez: So yeah, you know what you have to do. This is uh this is it. You get your meal and everything, so
  Ann Taylor: Trendwatching. Okay.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: That's fine.
  Ann Taylor: Yo.
  Barbara Lopez: So, we're finished for t for this time. We're going to have some lunch.
  Tina Suero: Okay.
  Tina Suero: Bye.
  Barbara Lopez: Yeah.
  Consuelo Gilreath: Yeah.
  Ann Taylor: Mm. Uh.
Updated Content: Barbara Lopez announced that the remote should only control television, and that the marketing should be targeted towards ages 40 and above. Ann Taylor presented the results of a lab study on users of remote controls, and showed that users want a fancier, less complicated remote that does not get lost easily. The group decided not to use speech recognition or an LCD screen to target the older demographic. Tina Suero discussed the button functions and how to make channel-changing easier. The group decided not to include programmable "favorites" buttons. Consuelo Gilreath presented the internal components of the device. The group discussed having the remote light up when used. He also stressed that the remote must be compatible with all television brands. Barbara Lopez corrected his target group announcement and announced that the target age group was actually ages 40 and below. The group again discussed the possibility of adding speech recognition and LCD screens to the design but decided that it was not feasible. The group decided to have the remote light up when used and is including teletext. Ann Taylor was instructed to report on trendwatching.