Extracted Content: Wade Carter: Hello. 'Kay.
  Michael Ogawa: You
  Jose Alexander: It's
  Michael Ogawa: all saw the newsflash? Or you got the same
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: message?
  Maurice Arreola: I I just saw it one minute ago
  Jose Alexander: I don't
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: When.
  Jose Alexander: know.
  Maurice Arreola: I
  Michael Ogawa: sorry.
  Maurice Arreola: uh
  Jose Alexander: I didn't it yet I think.
  Wade Carter: Newsflash? D
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: did I miss something?
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: I received
  Maurice Arreola: pretty much.
  Michael Ogawa: an email so I thought I I can't mail you so I thought I'd just drop it in the
  Jose Alexander: Hey what's
  Michael Ogawa: folder,
  Jose Alexander: wrong with my
  Michael Ogawa: but
  Jose Alexander: computer?
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: Is it unlocked?
  Maurice Arreola: Mm.
  Wade Carter: No.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah that's my presentation.
  Michael Ogawa: Woah. I uh
  Jose Alexander: Huh?
  Wade Carter: Mm.
  Michael Ogawa: kind of opened it.
  Maurice Arreola: Mm?
  Jose Alexander: What the
  Maurice Arreola: Oh
  Michael Ogawa: Uh
  Maurice Arreola: right.
  Wade Carter: I think you have to uh change
  Michael Ogawa: Okay.
  Wade Carter: your desktop uh size.
  Maurice Arreola: Ooh.
  Michael Ogawa: 'Kay. Everybody ready?
  Jose Alexander: Not
  Maurice Arreola: Well
  Jose Alexander: really. Sorry.
  Michael Ogawa: No
  Wade Carter: computer
  Michael Ogawa: no
  Wade Carter: is
  Michael Ogawa: no.
  Wade Carter: uh not functioning?
  Michael Ogawa: Yes yes yes.
  Maurice Arreola: Alright.
  Jose Alexander: Okay. Where
  Michael Ogawa: Okay.
  Jose Alexander: do I find this? I'm not so g display huh?
  Wade Carter: Uh display. And then uh
  Jose Alexander: Appearance?
  Wade Carter: settings?
  Maurice Arreola: Huh.
  Wade Carter: Mm I'm not sure
  Maurice Arreola: You
  Wade Carter: I.
  Maurice Arreola: read the newsflash?
  Wade Carter: No.
  Michael Ogawa: 'Kay.
  Jose Alexander: No what
  Maurice Arreola: Hmm.
  Jose Alexander: was
  Michael Ogawa: Can
  Jose Alexander: it
  Michael Ogawa: we
  Jose Alexander: about?
  Michael Ogawa: get started or is there some pressing
  Jose Alexander: Yeah my computer is
  Michael Ogawa: issue?
  Jose Alexander: not functioning properly.
  Michael Ogawa: Oh no pressing. Did you plug in the power cable when you come back?
  Jose Alexander: Yeah yeah. No but my screen is reduced in size.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: What?
  Michael Ogawa: That's difficult. Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah. Feedback.
  Maurice Arreola: Hmm.
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Jose Alexander: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: alt delete.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Format.
  Michael Ogawa: Format save.
  Maurice Arreola: So it doesn't draw the attention away.
  Jose Alexander: This is
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: dreadful.
  Wade Carter: I made uh uh my own map.
  Jose Alexander: No not
  Michael Ogawa: Oh
  Jose Alexander: this,
  Michael Ogawa: yeah
  Jose Alexander: but
  Wade Carter: It's
  Michael Ogawa: sure.
  Wade Carter: a
  Jose Alexander: the task.
  Michael Ogawa: You have Playstation also?
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: No. okay. No I just flapped it, closed it, took it here and then this happened.
  Jose Alexander: Ah. Uh where was it? In settings? Okay. Alright. Thank you.
  Michael Ogawa: Huh.
  Jose Alexander: Do you guys like your tasks?
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: I spent a lot of time thinking about what I was gonna do
  Wade Carter: Yeah
  Jose Alexander: and then
  Wade Carter: wa wa you actually
  Jose Alexander: a couple of minutes before this I get my function you know
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: the information that I need.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: So
  Wade Carter: But
  Jose Alexander: frustrating.
  Wade Carter: it's not clear what you have to
  Jose Alexander: So
  Wade Carter: to to type
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: uh
  Maurice Arreola: I I
  Wade Carter: type
  Maurice Arreola: had
  Wade Carter: in your
  Maurice Arreola: a whole
  Wade Carter: presentation.
  Maurice Arreola: idea and then just
  Jose Alexander: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: was typing it and oh. I to do that so
  Jose Alexander: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: switch.
  Jose Alexander: exactly. This presentation is mainly based on my own ideas 'cause I hadn't time to intergrate tha the information yet
  Maurice Arreola: Mm.
  Jose Alexander: so
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: Really annoying.
  Michael Ogawa: Okay. So there we are again.
  Maurice Arreola: By your humble P_M_.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. Okay this is the agenda. Um we have three presentations, I heard.
  Wade Carter: Really.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah really. So who wants to start?
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah that's fine.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: We have to start it right away?
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Functional?
  Michael Ogawa: Uh this is you?
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah functional requirements.
  Michael Ogawa: 'Kay.
  Maurice Arreola: Alright. I'm gonna talk about functional requirements. Um Well uh some research has be done uh has been done. Uh observing of one hundred uh subjects in the usability lab using a remote control. Uh and they also filled in a questionnaire. The findings were um, well you can see them for yourself. They disliked the look-and-feel of current remotes controls. Users think they're ugly. Um they do not match the the operating behaviour of the users. So they they d they don't match what they want to have on it. Um they are often lost somewhere in the room. Um it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control. And they're bad for R_S_I_. I don't know uh how a user can reach that but okay. Um
  Jose Alexander: Ts
  Maurice Arreola: there is also uh was also some research on uh the most relevant and and and irrelevant uh f functions. Uh most irrelevant and less used were audio settings, mono, stereo, uh pitch, bass. Um screen settings for brightness and colour and stuff like that. Um but they are used. I mean the
  Jose Alexander: So they do need to be in the
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah they
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: do need to be on the on the remote control. I
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Maurice Arreola: mean if you can't control the the sound settings I mean if you dislike a very uh loud bass or something, you you need to change that. So um
  Michael Ogawa: often.
  Jose Alexander: By
  Maurice Arreola: yeah
  Jose Alexander: the way my
  Maurice Arreola: we have
  Jose Alexander: T_V_
  Maurice Arreola: to. We
  Jose Alexander: doesn't
  Maurice Arreola: c we c
  Jose Alexander: have an equ equaliser
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Jose Alexander: but
  Maurice Arreola: I mean w
  Jose Alexander: okay.
  Maurice Arreola: we can't
  Michael Ogawa: Next
  Maurice Arreola: my my
  Michael Ogawa: generation
  Maurice Arreola: T_V_ has,
  Michael Ogawa: does.
  Jose Alexander: No.
  Maurice Arreola: but
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Maurice Arreola: we we can leave them uh away. Uh most relevant, uh most used functions, uh they speak for themselves I guess. Uh power button, uh channel, volume selection. Uh teletext but we can skip that because I saw the newsflash, and teletext is so outdated that it it's i
  Michael Ogawa: N not
  Maurice Arreola: should
  Michael Ogawa: used
  Maurice Arreola: not
  Michael Ogawa: anymore.
  Maurice Arreola: be used uh any more in the future. So forget this one.
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: Uh channel settings, so for programming uh your channels in in the
  Jose Alexander: By
  Maurice Arreola: right
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: the
  Maurice Arreola: order.
  Jose Alexander: way where did you guys get that newsflash
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: from? I
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah,
  Jose Alexander: didn't
  Maurice Arreola: on
  Jose Alexander: get
  Wade Carter: I
  Jose Alexander: anything.
  Wade Carter: was wondering
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: on
  Wade Carter: uh
  Maurice Arreola: the project uh
  Michael Ogawa: Not by mail. I receiv the mail but you don't. So
  Maurice Arreola: No
  Wade Carter: But you
  Maurice Arreola: so it's
  Wade Carter: you've
  Maurice Arreola: a text
  Wade Carter: got more
  Maurice Arreola: file
  Wade Carter: information
  Maurice Arreola: n in the project
  Wade Carter: than
  Maurice Arreola: folder. So teletext
  Wade Carter: uh.
  Maurice Arreola: can be skipped.
  Michael Ogawa: That's in the presentation, so
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Maurice Arreola: Um there was some research on new features in a remote control. Uh about an L_C_D_ screen uh and speech recognition. Well we got an update for the for the audience. Or the the the targeted group. So it's above forty I guess.
  Michael Ogawa: Uh
  Maurice Arreola: The
  Michael Ogawa: below
  Maurice Arreola: new product?
  Michael Ogawa: I believe.
  Maurice Arreola: Or below
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah below forty.
  Maurice Arreola: because that's pretty relevant.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: I thought I read
  Michael Ogawa: Our
  Maurice Arreola: a
  Michael Ogawa: current customers are in the age group forty plus.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah?
  Michael Ogawa: And the new product should reach new markets, which is
  Maurice Arreola: Below?
  Michael Ogawa: the customers below forty.
  Maurice Arreola: Okay well
  Wade Carter: But where did you get
  Maurice Arreola: that's
  Wade Carter: uh
  Michael Ogawa: That's
  Wade Carter: that
  Michael Ogawa: in
  Wade Carter: information?
  Michael Ogawa: a newsflash.
  Maurice Arreola: that's in the newsfla okay
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: that's a good to know. Um because you see see
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: a clear distinction between the age groups, concerning the features. I mean uh above forty people are not so interested uh not so interested in a screen or speech recognition. Uh but below that age they uh they pretty much are. So I think we can build that in. Um Yeah well we can skip this part as well, because I thought I read above forty so we could skip the features, but we just have to build them in because uh they find it very interesting. Um well we have to keep all the classic functions but make the buttons as user-friendly as possible. Um and and also there's so not only the design of the bus uh buttons but o how you can push them, and stuff like that. So the physical uh aspect of it. Um And I think and certainly for for the for the lower age groups, uh nice design, which uh does not make the remote control in your room. It's it's
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: actually a part of your interior, of of your design in your room. So it's the people can say, well what's that, well that's my remote control, so it's d
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: it has to look nice and feel nice, and and have all the functions
  Michael Ogawa: But
  Maurice Arreola: that
  Michael Ogawa: it also
  Maurice Arreola: uh
  Michael Ogawa: needs to have corporate identity.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah so the the logo has to be uh
  Michael Ogawa: Present and the colours.
  Maurice Arreola: present yeah, and the colours as well.
  Michael Ogawa: So we can't change much of that.
  Jose Alexander: Do we have
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Jose Alexander: uh
  Maurice Arreola: so
  Jose Alexander: yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: but I I don't think that's that's a problem because the thing
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: has to have a colour anyway,
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: and
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: most of the times there is a brand present on it. So
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: I think that's not gonna
  Michael Ogawa: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: gonna affect it very uh very much. Well that are the the consequences uh on a marketing uh part.
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Maurice Arreola: Yes.
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: 'Kay. It's open already so you can use to
  Wade Carter: Mm.
  Michael Ogawa: find yours.
  Wade Carter: It's
  Michael Ogawa: F_ five.
  Wade Carter: F_ five. Okay. Oh.
  Michael Ogawa: Go Jurgen.
  Wade Carter: What is this? Oh no. How do I uh
  Michael Ogawa: You pressed alt F_ four?
  Wade Carter: No no no. I pressed the mouse button.
  Michael Ogawa: Oh great.
  Jose Alexander: It's th that's the self-destruct button.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. Uh
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: maybe you can do it from your computer
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: so
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Um
  Michael Ogawa: talk
  Maurice Arreola: Just
  Michael Ogawa: us through
  Wade Carter: if you
  Michael Ogawa: it.
  Wade Carter: all go
  Maurice Arreola: yeah.
  Wade Carter: stand around
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: uh Computer
  Maurice Arreola: Sure.
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Wade Carter: Um
  Michael Ogawa: That's nice.
  Wade Carter: No.
  Michael Ogawa: F_ five.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: Alright.
  Wade Carter: I uh had uh two examples.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: Um this one is the the yeah the advanced one with a lot of options and functions and
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: buttons. This
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: the easy one I think we have to to combine them.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: And
  Jose Alexander: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: uh yeah merge the best functions of all examples.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Um but yeah the the age is uh under
  Michael Ogawa: The
  Wade Carter: forty?
  Michael Ogawa: mm
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: and
  Wade Carter: So we
  Maurice Arreola: and and marketing research stated that that that kind of users are not afraid of of a lot
  Wade Carter: Okay
  Maurice Arreola: of functions.
  Wade Carter: so so we have the option
  Maurice Arreola: So not
  Wade Carter: for
  Maurice Arreola: not
  Wade Carter: more
  Maurice Arreola: too much
  Wade Carter: functions.
  Maurice Arreola: but yeah.
  Wade Carter: Um yeah.
  Jose Alexander: And we do have to integrate the screen and the the speech
  Maurice Arreola: the speech recognition yeah.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: alright.
  Wade Carter: Uh yeah this this one we can remove for kids. It's just only for adults so uh we can uh use some advanced options.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah from
  Wade Carter: But
  Maurice Arreola: age of sixteen
  Wade Carter: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: so
  Wade Carter: but I
  Maurice Arreola: yeah.
  Wade Carter: prefer we we uh use the the basic options uh yeah. We have to to make them very easy so
  Maurice Arreola: Mm.
  Wade Carter: for just
  Jose Alexander: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: uh zapping around the channels you can just push one button.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: But if you want to to use your your video recorder or something else, you should use use an uh an advanced option.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah but uh the the newsflash also stated that it should control only one device,
  Wade Carter: Okay
  Maurice Arreola: only
  Wade Carter: one
  Maurice Arreola: your
  Wade Carter: device.
  Maurice Arreola: television.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: So
  Maurice Arreola: So
  Michael Ogawa: n
  Wade Carter: I
  Michael Ogawa: it's
  Wade Carter: didn't
  Maurice Arreola: w
  Michael Ogawa: very easy.
  Wade Carter: see.
  Michael Ogawa: Now
  Wade Carter: Okay
  Michael Ogawa: yeah
  Maurice Arreola: So
  Michael Ogawa: it's okay.
  Maurice Arreola: there are not extra options in this case,
  Wade Carter: and
  Maurice Arreola: but
  Michael Ogawa: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: uh
  Wade Carter: I also uh yeah. W yeah. We have to make it fashionable.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Like
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: you uh said uh before. Uh yeah the basic functions. Um yeah only use a extra function if they are really needed.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: so maybe you can hide them or something.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah well what what we can do with the screen is is all the the configuration options, you can put that in the screen.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: And the
  Michael Ogawa: you make
  Maurice Arreola: and
  Michael Ogawa: a
  Maurice Arreola: the
  Michael Ogawa: screen menu or something.
  Maurice Arreola: yeah screen
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: menu to to to uh
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: to do that, and then the basic function just on the device itself. So it
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: looks very simple and all the advanced features are hidden in the screen,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: uh
  Michael Ogawa: and
  Maurice Arreola: with
  Michael Ogawa: the other
  Maurice Arreola: a clear
  Michael Ogawa: oth
  Maurice Arreola: menu.
  Michael Ogawa: other uh functionality is the screen. What does the screen do?
  Maurice Arreola: Uh.
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Wade Carter: Did I
  Maurice Arreola: What
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: are
  Wade Carter: uh
  Maurice Arreola: wh
  Wade Carter: did I break
  Michael Ogawa: It's
  Wade Carter: it?
  Michael Ogawa: low power.
  Maurice Arreola: What.
  Michael Ogawa: So what does the screen do? They said they needed it but what does it do? What do they want with the screen?
  Wade Carter: For for the advanced functions I think.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: that's what
  Maurice Arreola: well
  Michael Ogawa: we make
  Maurice Arreola: it
  Michael Ogawa: it up.
  Maurice Arreola: yeah
  Michael Ogawa: So
  Maurice Arreola: it didn't
  Michael Ogawa: but
  Maurice Arreola: it
  Michael Ogawa: what did
  Maurice Arreola: didn't
  Michael Ogawa: the marketing
  Maurice Arreola: say what they want to do with
  Michael Ogawa: No.
  Maurice Arreola: the screen. Well I, my guess is it's it's pretty handy for advanced
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: uh
  Michael Ogawa: okay it's
  Maurice Arreola: advanced
  Michael Ogawa: handy.
  Maurice Arreola: functions.
  Michael Ogawa: With
  Wade Carter: Like searching
  Michael Ogawa: no predefined
  Wade Carter: for channels and
  Michael Ogawa: uh
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah searching
  Jose Alexander: Ah look.
  Maurice Arreola: for channels, programming
  Jose Alexander: We
  Maurice Arreola: them.
  Jose Alexander: have
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: your uh oh never mind.
  Michael Ogawa: We're back online.
  Wade Carter: Okay. That's uh I'm al I'm almost finished so
  Michael Ogawa: Okay.
  Wade Carter: Um the we have to to to watch out for the i if we make it f very fashionable, it it the functional functionality will go down. So we have to make uh a compromise between functionality and fashional
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: fashionable
  Michael Ogawa: Content and form.
  Wade Carter: yeah
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: content and form.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Now that that was
  Michael Ogawa: That was
  Wade Carter: uh
  Michael Ogawa: the end.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: was the end.
  Jose Alexander: Okay.
  Wade Carter: Yes.
  Michael Ogawa: Okay.
  Jose Alexander: Well my presentation is a bit uh sucky.
  Maurice Arreola: Well you can improvise
  Michael Ogawa: Uh which one
  Maurice Arreola: right?
  Michael Ogawa: is it? Technical functions?
  Jose Alexander: Yeah a little bit. Uh
  Michael Ogawa: This one?
  Jose Alexander: no. No no.
  Michael Ogawa: Functional requirements?
  Jose Alexander: Yeah I think that would be it then.
  Michael Ogawa: No.
  Maurice Arreola: So we we
  Jose Alexander: I
  Maurice Arreola: can
  Jose Alexander: have
  Michael Ogawa: You
  Jose Alexander: no
  Maurice Arreola: go
  Michael Ogawa: didn't
  Jose Alexander: idea.
  Maurice Arreola: for
  Michael Ogawa: put it in? Or
  Jose Alexander: That w.
  Michael Ogawa: it's
  Jose Alexander: Let Maurice Arreola check.
  Michael Ogawa: not really English.
  Jose Alexander: I know.
  Michael Ogawa: Uh kick off. Oh working design I got it.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: So we can go for the look-and-feel of the the left example, and then a screen on top of it.
  Michael Ogawa: Here you go.
  Jose Alexander: Alright how do I uh skip pages?
  Michael Ogawa: Just uh press uh yeah.
  Jose Alexander: The keys
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: yeah? Alright. Um yeah well I was working on this before I got my information. So I was just working off the top of my head and
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Jose Alexander: using my colin common knowledge about uh remote controls. And well the info on the website which
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Jose Alexander: came too late. Um so I didn't really know what kind of functions we had to put into it yet. So
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Jose Alexander: uh uh this is basically an overview of what we discussed in our last uh meeting. Those were my uh starting
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Jose Alexander: points. Uh I was working on a s yeah on a schedule, and I was supposed to do it like this. But um yeah then uh the information came and it was kind of exact with all the steps in the remote control that I had to follow, so I was
  Michael Ogawa: Mm.
  Jose Alexander: trying to organise them for myself. And then make the
  Maurice Arreola: Design?
  Jose Alexander: the
  Michael Ogawa: Design
  Jose Alexander: design,
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Jose Alexander: a
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: the actual design, but I never came around to do that. So
  Maurice Arreola: Okay.
  Jose Alexander: I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say about it. I mean everything speaks for itself I guess. Mean you press a button
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Jose Alexander: um the it tru goes, it sends a signal to a chip, which uh translates it into infrared signal of certin spatial frequencies.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: frequency. Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: And uh or temporal fr frequencies actually. And then uh through a uh transformer, it
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Jose Alexander: the
  Michael Ogawa: decoder.
  Jose Alexander: signal gets boosted and then sent to the to the receiver on the T_V_ and the T_V_ will translate it into a function. Um Yeah well this was actually all I
  Michael Ogawa: Blank.
  Jose Alexander: got around to do.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Jose Alexander: I mean
  Michael Ogawa: okay.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: I
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: dunno if I'm too slow for this stuff, but uh
  Michael Ogawa: Work harder.
  Wade Carter: Okay shou should
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: we make a list
  Jose Alexander: Whatever.
  Wade Carter: of the of all the functions we want
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: uh
  Michael Ogawa: Uh
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah we want to incorporate in
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: uh into it.
  Michael Ogawa: 'Kay. Um for those that didn't see yet um the basic new requirements of the management were no teletext, only for T_V_. Uh it should be designed for a use g uh group below forty, but I don't think it's w wrong if we can uh target the current customer group as well.
  Maurice Arreola: Mm.
  Michael Ogawa: And uh the corporate identity should be clear in the design of the remote control. And we have to decide on the functions, and on the, let's see what was it, uh the target group. We have to make be clear what that is.
  Maurice Arreola: group of users, or
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah users.
  Maurice Arreola: because it says below forty I mean.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: I guess
  Michael Ogawa: so
  Maurice Arreola: that's that's
  Michael Ogawa: I think
  Maurice Arreola: the tar
  Michael Ogawa: it's easy but
  Wade Carter: But
  Maurice Arreola: yeah
  Wade Carter: uh it's
  Maurice Arreola: uh or male
  Wade Carter: it's also
  Maurice Arreola: and female
  Wade Carter: for children or just
  Maurice Arreola: Uh
  Wade Carter: uh
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: six
  Michael Ogawa: it's below forty so we
  Maurice Arreola: the
  Michael Ogawa: can
  Maurice Arreola: marketing
  Michael Ogawa: decide
  Maurice Arreola: research
  Michael Ogawa: where
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: to
  Maurice Arreola: started on s on the age of sixteen. Sixteen
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five,
  Michael Ogawa: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: thirty five to forty five, something like that. So
  Michael Ogawa: So
  Maurice Arreola: um
  Michael Ogawa: below forty is okay. But we need an lower level which to s uh
  Maurice Arreola: How
  Michael Ogawa: focus.
  Maurice Arreola: do you mean?
  Michael Ogawa: So is it from sixteen to forty? Is it from twenty to forty? Is
  Maurice Arreola: Uh
  Michael Ogawa: it from
  Maurice Arreola: sixteen
  Michael Ogawa: thirty?
  Maurice Arreola: to forty.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah?
  Maurice Arreola: Well
  Wade Carter: We we
  Michael Ogawa: 'Kay.
  Wade Carter: have to
  Maurice Arreola: I I guess people of sixteen are are quite used to technology.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: So they they adapt to it pretty soon I guess.
  Wade Carter: And if we have a larger public we have uh yeah more options to
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: to uh sell our product.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah so what we might wanna do is uh yeah cust I have customised the screen functions, if you know what I mean. The
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Jose Alexander: uh younger users are more acquainted with these kind of machines so they can use more advanced functions. But maybe elderly people don't understand it so well, so they need a simpler remote.
  Michael Ogawa: Design.
  Jose Alexander: And
  Michael Ogawa: Mm.
  Jose Alexander: yeah that you can choose what the design displays, or
  Wade Carter: Yeah
  Jose Alexander: wha whatever.
  Wade Carter: that's that's why uh I wanted to to make yeah two uh different uh yeah groups of functions. The the simple functions for for the the whole public,
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: and the the advanced options for the younger people yeah who are
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: more yeah
  Jose Alexander: Experienced
  Michael Ogawa: And
  Wade Carter: experienced
  Maurice Arreola: But
  Michael Ogawa: maybe
  Jose Alexander: yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: uh all
  Wade Carter: with
  Maurice Arreola: incorporated
  Wade Carter: uh
  Michael Ogawa: y
  Maurice Arreola: in the screen or or just
  Wade Carter: Na
  Maurice Arreola: on the remote itself?
  Wade Carter: I w I should uh put uh the the yeah the extra advanced options on the onto the onscreen display.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: like like you have a visual of the of the brightness with with
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: a kind
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: of sliding bar and
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: a bus and and stuff like that for sound and and vis and and visuals?
  Michael Ogawa: So is you should have a menu for all the the functions
  Maurice Arreola: Uh you can make
  Michael Ogawa: you don't
  Maurice Arreola: a
  Michael Ogawa: use regular
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: and which
  Maurice Arreola: if you
  Michael Ogawa: are
  Maurice Arreola: make a drawing.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. Aye yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Uh Uh.
  Michael Ogawa: Shall I uh
  Maurice Arreola: Uh black's okay. And draw it very big. Oh.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. It's okay.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: no, it doesn't have line control, so
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah we get the
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah well, this is basically uh
  Jose Alexander: The remote?
  Maurice Arreola: it's alright
  Michael Ogawa: The remote,
  Maurice Arreola: the remote?
  Michael Ogawa: yeah?
  Maurice Arreola: Um
  Michael Ogawa: Basic.
  Maurice Arreola: well usually the power button
  Michael Ogawa: Is on
  Maurice Arreola: is
  Michael Ogawa: top.
  Maurice Arreola: on top I
  Michael Ogawa: Which
  Maurice Arreola: guess.
  Michael Ogawa: should be easy, easily reached with the thumb.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah so
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: it should fit right
  Wade Carter: L left
  Maurice Arreola: in into
  Wade Carter: top
  Maurice Arreola: your
  Wade Carter: or
  Maurice Arreola: hand.
  Wade Carter: right uh top?
  Maurice Arreola: Right.
  Michael Ogawa: T I s should
  Jose Alexander: Right
  Wade Carter: Yeah,
  Maurice Arreola: Right.
  Jose Alexander: top.
  Wade Carter: right.
  Michael Ogawa: said
  Maurice Arreola: I
  Michael Ogawa: right.
  Maurice Arreola: most people
  Michael Ogawa: Because
  Maurice Arreola: are right-handed so
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Jose Alexander: definitely.
  Maurice Arreola: maybe left-handed special addition, but okay. If you put it like like here. Or something. I dunno. Um then you could put a screen, like on a mobile phone, also on top I guess.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Wade Carter: Yeah but if you are using the the normal functions, the the basic functions, you normally
  Michael Ogawa: Do
  Wade Carter: press
  Michael Ogawa: the
  Wade Carter: them
  Michael Ogawa: also
  Wade Carter: on the
  Michael Ogawa: with the thumb.
  Wade Carter: u yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: So it should be a little bit longer so that you can put your uh thumb, also reach the middle. Or you should screen at the bottom and then you can see it very clearly.
  Maurice Arreola: Okay so y yeah you have you have it
  Michael Ogawa: You
  Maurice Arreola: in your hand,
  Michael Ogawa: you need
  Maurice Arreola: and the
  Michael Ogawa: to
  Maurice Arreola: screen is below,
  Michael Ogawa: be able to hold it so
  Maurice Arreola: and
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: the buttons are in the middle.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Okay for example if you put the screen here, it's more about the functions now than the
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: than the layout.
  Michael Ogawa: okay that's true. Layout. That's
  Maurice Arreola: Doesn't
  Michael Ogawa: for the
  Maurice Arreola: work too well. It's uh it's bent.
  Michael Ogawa: I can't help it.
  Wade Carter: You broke it.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Man.
  Maurice Arreola: Right.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah okay.
  Maurice Arreola: Okay you get it. Uh for example if y if you put all the Right.
  Michael Ogawa: You want the normal piece of paper? And you have a pen?
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: And might be
  Maurice Arreola: Maybe
  Jose Alexander: easier
  Maurice Arreola: this.
  Jose Alexander: huh?
  Maurice Arreola: kind of works.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah?
  Maurice Arreola: Like if you have like uh ten buttons for for all the for all
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: the channels, um
  Michael Ogawa: Uh.
  Maurice Arreola: and here one for
  Michael Ogawa: And the
  Maurice Arreola: for
  Michael Ogawa: for flipping up
  Wade Carter: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: and down.
  Wade Carter: yeah. And volume control.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah that that usually uh
  Jose Alexander: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: like
  Jose Alexander: I
  Maurice Arreola: here, here, here, here.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: So
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: you have up and down for the for the channels,
  Michael Ogawa: And left
  Maurice Arreola: and left
  Michael Ogawa: to right.
  Maurice Arreola: and right for the volume
  Michael Ogawa: And
  Maurice Arreola: uh
  Michael Ogawa: those can also be used for the menu.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah exactly. I thought
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: but this is really your department,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: that we need just the functional display
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: and
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Jose Alexander: four
  Michael Ogawa: okay
  Jose Alexander: cursors.
  Michael Ogawa: but this is function
  Maurice Arreola: And
  Michael Ogawa: so
  Maurice Arreola: you you have
  Michael Ogawa: if
  Jose Alexander: And
  Michael Ogawa: you can use them for multiple
  Maurice Arreola: most
  Michael Ogawa: things
  Maurice Arreola: of the time you
  Jose Alexander: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: have
  Jose Alexander: okay.
  Maurice Arreola: one button in the middle. It
  Michael Ogawa: For
  Maurice Arreola: says
  Michael Ogawa: the menu.
  Maurice Arreola: menu,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: and then if you press it you the screen gets activated and then you can use these buttons
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: to scroll up and down and left and right to go into functon and then just
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: mo most of the time this menu button is also like okay, to to confirm a a kind
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: of action. So you scroll into it, okay. You select a function like v like uh bass. You just adjust it with these two buttons.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Then okay to confirm, and then uh on on each on each screen there's there should be an option to go back to a to a upper level. And then
  Jose Alexander: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: finally say okay, exit. Or or one button to exit it.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Uh in one time I dunno, that's not really my department. That's more your uh your department to
  Wade Carter: And
  Maurice Arreola: to
  Wade Carter: do
  Maurice Arreola: uh
  Wade Carter: we need
  Maurice Arreola: to
  Wade Carter: a a logo on our uh remote control, or
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: But it should be if the screen is here then the logo should be like
  Wade Carter: On the left
  Maurice Arreola: on
  Wade Carter: uh
  Maurice Arreola: on top,
  Wade Carter: top
  Maurice Arreola: yeah.
  Wade Carter: yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: I mean it's uh
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah but that depends on where you put the screen. But
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: it's essential that there is a screen.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah I mean the position of the screen is also more essential than I mean we we look where we have space left and then put the logo over there.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. And
  Maurice Arreola: But um
  Michael Ogawa: for the speech uh recognition part, if we want to incorporate that, we need a microphone.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah so it should be I mean if you have it in your hand here, should be on top somewhere,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. This
  Maurice Arreola: maybe.
  Michael Ogawa: would be uh
  Jose Alexander: Why
  Maurice Arreola: I
  Jose Alexander: did
  Maurice Arreola: mean
  Jose Alexander: we
  Maurice Arreola: i
  Jose Alexander: wanna put the display in the bottom?
  Michael Ogawa: No that's not s sure so
  Maurice Arreola: That's
  Jose Alexander: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: not sure but
  Michael Ogawa: uh
  Maurice Arreola: it's
  Wade Carter: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: we need
  Wade Carter: may
  Michael Ogawa: a
  Wade Carter: maybe
  Michael Ogawa: display.
  Jose Alexander: Because
  Wade Carter: because
  Jose Alexander: yeah
  Wade Carter: you're
  Jose Alexander: if you use the functions your hand will block the display.
  Wade Carter: Yeah okay but only for the basic functi if you're going to use the advanced option, you're going to press the the menu button and then yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah I mean a screen on top looks more
  Jose Alexander: Normal
  Maurice Arreola: lo
  Jose Alexander: for logical
  Maurice Arreola: logical to Maurice Arreola. Also
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: t
  Maurice Arreola: because people use m mobile phones and
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: they also
  Michael Ogawa: they're
  Maurice Arreola: have
  Michael Ogawa: used
  Maurice Arreola: the screen
  Michael Ogawa: to it.
  Maurice Arreola: on top.
  Wade Carter: Okay the yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: So
  Wade Carter: That's possible.
  Maurice Arreola: you you just have to reach a little bit for the power button.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: I mean if you grab
  Jose Alexander: On
  Maurice Arreola: it.
  Jose Alexander: once it's on it's on.
  Maurice Arreola: But
  Jose Alexander: You don't need
  Maurice Arreola: most
  Jose Alexander: the
  Wade Carter: Yeah,
  Jose Alexander: power
  Maurice Arreola: most
  Jose Alexander: button.
  Wade Carter: okay.
  Maurice Arreola: of the times if a if if a T_V_'s on standby people just press a channel
  Wade Carter: Okay we put it on top.
  Maurice Arreola: to put it on. So we put this on top,
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: and then make the corporate logo like over here. R_R_. And j and the microphone, I mean it can be very small. If you look at your mobile phones
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: are some stripes, little little holes.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Jose Alexander: Maybe on the top or even on the side.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah maybe on the side. I mean
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: if the if
  Michael Ogawa: but
  Maurice Arreola: the
  Michael Ogawa: then
  Maurice Arreola: microphone
  Michael Ogawa: it's possible
  Maurice Arreola: is
  Michael Ogawa: that
  Maurice Arreola: good.
  Michael Ogawa: you cover it with your hand so
  Jose Alexander: True.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: okay. So
  Michael Ogawa: I think
  Maurice Arreola: on
  Michael Ogawa: that
  Maurice Arreola: the on
  Michael Ogawa: top
  Maurice Arreola: the
  Michael Ogawa: is
  Maurice Arreola: top
  Michael Ogawa: the best
  Maurice Arreola: is
  Michael Ogawa: option.
  Maurice Arreola: better.
  Jose Alexander: But if you uh if you hold the ma the remote like this, if you put it on the top on the side I dunno.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah okay.
  Jose Alexander: Should be able to
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: work.
  Michael Ogawa: Depends
  Jose Alexander: Never mind.
  Michael Ogawa: on the sensitivity of the microphone,
  Jose Alexander: Can we
  Michael Ogawa: but
  Jose Alexander: leave
  Michael Ogawa: I
  Jose Alexander: this
  Michael Ogawa: think
  Jose Alexander: up to
  Michael Ogawa: that's
  Jose Alexander: you?
  Michael Ogawa: okay.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah it doesn't matter that much. So but um the screen is on top? Which functions did we have left? I mean this is basically numbers,
  Michael Ogawa: Volume.
  Maurice Arreola: volume, uh channel
  Michael Ogawa: Up.
  Maurice Arreola: up and down.
  Michael Ogawa: Channel up and down,
  Maurice Arreola: Screen
  Michael Ogawa: and the control
  Maurice Arreola: is over
  Michael Ogawa: of
  Maurice Arreola: there.
  Michael Ogawa: the advanced options.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: So
  Wade Carter: If
  Michael Ogawa: maybe
  Wade Carter: we
  Michael Ogawa: it, we should decide what advanced options we want to put in the L_C_D_ screen.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah. That's uh that's a good one.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah so we we needed to integrate the sound and uh and image options right?
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Jose Alexander: Like
  Michael Ogawa: so sounds?
  Jose Alexander: uh bass uh
  Maurice Arreola: Sound?
  Jose Alexander: so we need kind of an equaliser. If
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: you
  Maurice Arreola: Equaliser. So if you have sound But not too advanced. I mean most T_V_s use only treble
  Wade Carter: Yeah it
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Wade Carter: it's
  Maurice Arreola: and
  Michael Ogawa: and
  Wade Carter: just
  Maurice Arreola: bass.
  Michael Ogawa: they're
  Wade Carter: a remote control
  Jose Alexander: Yeah treble,
  Wade Carter: so
  Michael Ogawa: They're
  Jose Alexander: middl
  Michael Ogawa: not used
  Jose Alexander: middle,
  Michael Ogawa: often
  Jose Alexander: bass or something.
  Michael Ogawa: so
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah. It's uh pretty hard to write.
  Jose Alexander: Ah as.
  Maurice Arreola: Mm.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: Okay
  Michael Ogawa: just
  Maurice Arreola: but you have sound?
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah sounds.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah just
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: oh y you have digital uh better write it down over there yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Of course.
  Maurice Arreola: So you have sound.
  Michael Ogawa: I'm just a secretary.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Coffee?
  Maurice Arreola: Uh
  Jose Alexander: Yes
  Maurice Arreola: yeah sound
  Jose Alexander: please.
  Maurice Arreola: and then within sound I guess treble and bass?
  Michael Ogawa: Treble bass.
  Jose Alexander: the mono stereo option?
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Uh
  Maurice Arreola: Also.
  Jose Alexander: And then
  Michael Ogawa: Pitch I believe,
  Jose Alexander: pitch.
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Pitch. Yeah. But pitch, isn't that yeah that's the the height
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: The fr
  Maurice Arreola: of the
  Jose Alexander: yeah
  Maurice Arreola: tone.
  Jose Alexander: the frequency of the tones, yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah okay,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: wh why
  Michael Ogawa: and
  Maurice Arreola: would you
  Michael Ogawa: mono
  Maurice Arreola: use that?
  Michael Ogawa: stereo.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: If
  Jose Alexander: isn't
  Maurice Arreola: people
  Jose Alexander: that
  Maurice Arreola: like
  Jose Alexander: that
  Maurice Arreola: talk
  Jose Alexander: depends
  Maurice Arreola: like uh
  Jose Alexander: on the on the signal of the of what program you're watching.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: And also the tuning part?
  Maurice Arreola: Programming part.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah programming.
  Maurice Arreola: Uh
  Michael Ogawa: So channel programming?
  Maurice Arreola: so we have sound, yeah? Channel programming.
  Jose Alexander: And yeah in the functionality of the
  Wade Carter: Television uh
  Jose Alexander: no no
  Wade Carter: itself
  Jose Alexander: of the
  Wade Carter: uh
  Jose Alexander: remote uh do do we want uh the buttons to make sound when you press them? As a confirmation
  Wade Carter: Mm.
  Jose Alexander: or whatever
  Maurice Arreola: Mm.
  Jose Alexander: you know? I dunno.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm.
  Maurice Arreola: I think it g it gets annoying. I mean
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: most mobile
  Wade Carter: We
  Maurice Arreola: phones
  Wade Carter: we could make
  Maurice Arreola: used
  Wade Carter: an option
  Maurice Arreola: that in the
  Wade Carter: for
  Maurice Arreola: beginning
  Wade Carter: it, but
  Maurice Arreola: but
  Wade Carter: uh you can disable
  Jose Alexander: Under
  Wade Carter: s
  Jose Alexander: the a yeah advanced option
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: menu you can put those things.
  Wade Carter: But
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: uh the the television itself has also the the options brightness and uh screen colour etcetera. So
  Michael Ogawa: Contrast yeah.
  Wade Carter: yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah but people don't want to sit on their knees on their knees in front of their television
  Michael Ogawa: Mm.
  Maurice Arreola: with
  Michael Ogawa: No.
  Maurice Arreola: only three buttons
  Michael Ogawa: Uh,
  Maurice Arreola: then it's very hard to
  Michael Ogawa: so contrast,
  Maurice Arreola: y
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: yeah contrast and brightness?
  Michael Ogawa: bright,
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah those are the most
  Michael Ogawa: uh
  Maurice Arreola: used I guess. If
  Michael Ogawa: And
  Maurice Arreola: you look
  Michael Ogawa: the others
  Maurice Arreola: at your
  Michael Ogawa: were
  Maurice Arreola: monitor.
  Michael Ogawa: in your presentation right? So I can
  Maurice Arreola: Well
  Michael Ogawa: just copy those?
  Maurice Arreola: yeah well I guess that these were the only ones, I guess.
  Michael Ogawa: Okay. It's easy.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: But so
  Maurice Arreola: I
  Jose Alexander: we have
  Maurice Arreola: will look
  Jose Alexander: we
  Maurice Arreola: it up.
  Jose Alexander: have T_V_ options, which is all this.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah the
  Jose Alexander: The
  Michael Ogawa: button
  Jose Alexander: sound,
  Michael Ogawa: options and
  Jose Alexander: sound
  Michael Ogawa: the
  Jose Alexander: and
  Michael Ogawa: L_C_D_
  Jose Alexander: image.
  Michael Ogawa: options.
  Jose Alexander: And you have in that uh the
  Michael Ogawa: Indeed.
  Jose Alexander: indeed the remote control options.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: So we need two menus kind of thing.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah you have basically a button menu, which you can use directly, uh
  Jose Alexander: Uh-huh.
  Michael Ogawa: according to the old principle. And the L_C_D_ options are activated by some some software options, thats communicates with the infrared
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: uh
  Maurice Arreola: with the chip
  Michael Ogawa: decoder
  Maurice Arreola: and
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: then I mean
  Michael Ogawa: So you
  Maurice Arreola: Uh
  Michael Ogawa: You have an additional processor and
  Maurice Arreola: yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: and
  Maurice Arreola: Well
  Michael Ogawa: software part.
  Maurice Arreola: yeah we have
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Michael Ogawa: Compared
  Maurice Arreola: power button,
  Michael Ogawa: to o
  Maurice Arreola: whether that's present.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: Channel volume selection present. Uh numbers present. Yeah a audio
  Michael Ogawa: L_
  Maurice Arreola: settings,
  Michael Ogawa: s
  Maurice Arreola: mono, stereo, pitch, bass,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: treble. Screen settings, brightness and colour.
  Michael Ogawa: Colour. Yeah I
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: I call
  Maurice Arreola: con
  Michael Ogawa: it
  Maurice Arreola: contrast
  Michael Ogawa: contrast.
  Maurice Arreola: is
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah I make it c colour.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah okay, colour and brightness.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Um and what you say, channel settings or channel programming? So you you have an option to to start scanning all the frequencies,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah and automatically
  Maurice Arreola: and when it encounters
  Michael Ogawa: um
  Maurice Arreola: one, well it shows on your T_V_.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: And then you can um Uh and then you can select uh a number in your
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: remote
  Michael Ogawa: so
  Maurice Arreola: on
  Michael Ogawa: I've
  Maurice Arreola: which
  Michael Ogawa: g
  Maurice Arreola: you want
  Michael Ogawa: channel
  Maurice Arreola: to save
  Michael Ogawa: program
  Maurice Arreola: it.
  Michael Ogawa: is autoseek?
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah, autoseek.
  Michael Ogawa: Uh name a channel, or
  Maurice Arreola: Well most T_V_s automatically display the name, which they get through the cable.
  Michael Ogawa: Oh they get automatic names,
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: okay.
  Maurice Arreola: So you only have to choose the position on your It only has to match the the channel frequency on your T_V_,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: with with the with the position on your T_V_ and and so your remote.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah but
  Jose Alexander: Help.
  Michael Ogawa: can you also say I want f uh Veronica on the channel number uh five or
  Maurice Arreola: If you already programmed it.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: If you want to move it.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah that should be possible too.
  Michael Ogawa: How do you call that?
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah how do you call that? Mm? Wait you you should be able to to browse through a list or something, which w displays all the all
  Michael Ogawa: Channels?
  Maurice Arreola: the values, all the channels
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: which are possible. I mean like one to
  Michael Ogawa: Ninety
  Maurice Arreola: f thirty
  Michael Ogawa: nine or something.
  Maurice Arreola: of or ninety
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: or whatever. Just browse through it and then um in some kind of way see if it if it if
  Michael Ogawa: S
  Maurice Arreola: it is programmed.
  Michael Ogawa: swap channels? Can
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: I call it that?
  Maurice Arreola: Swap channels.
  Michael Ogawa: Swap's good option. Okay. Uh
  Maurice Arreola: So
  Michael Ogawa: other
  Maurice Arreola: you
  Michael Ogawa: functions?
  Maurice Arreola: most of the time if you if you swap it S uh let's say for example you have uh R_T_L_ five on on channel five. And Veronica on channel eight and you want to move Veronica to channel five, um most of the times you override the previous uh the
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: previous one.
  Michael Ogawa: Okay. Well that's 's up to uh
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Mister User Interface
  Maurice Arreola: It's
  Michael Ogawa: Designer.
  Maurice Arreola: it's pretty
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: uh yeah I mean you have to look on on the menu
  Jose Alexander: working
  Maurice Arreola: on
  Jose Alexander: design.
  Maurice Arreola: the T_V_.
  Jose Alexander: Doch.
  Michael Ogawa: Also. That's
  Jose Alexander: He only
  Michael Ogawa: you're
  Jose Alexander: has to figure out how it has to look. And how
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah but also,
  Jose Alexander: to use
  Michael Ogawa: which buttons you have to press to get a certain result? And
  Jose Alexander: Yeah okay. But
  Michael Ogawa: the working design was to specify how ph the physical interation between the components was, as I believe.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: You did your homework. But um yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Or or is
  Jose Alexander: Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: it too hard to to ju to just do it all on your remote? To programme the channels?
  Jose Alexander: No
  Michael Ogawa: No
  Jose Alexander: no.
  Michael Ogawa: I
  Wade Carter: No
  Jose Alexander: It should
  Michael Ogawa: don't
  Maurice Arreola: Uh.
  Wade Carter: that's
  Jose Alexander: be
  Michael Ogawa: think
  Jose Alexander: able
  Michael Ogawa: so.
  Jose Alexander: to do
  Michael Ogawa: But
  Jose Alexander: any remote.
  Michael Ogawa: I think the communication with the television is difficult. But that's
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: not our part.
  Maurice Arreola: No.
  Michael Ogawa: We don't have to design a protocol so
  Jose Alexander: No.
  Maurice Arreola: That's true. That's true.
  Jose Alexander: Thank god.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Okay
  Maurice Arreola: So we have a figure a figure out a way to to do that easily. I mean th the autoseek is is not a problem. I mean
  Michael Ogawa: No
  Maurice Arreola: you uh you
  Michael Ogawa: that's
  Maurice Arreola: uh current
  Michael Ogawa: the
  Maurice Arreola: channel and then then it just says, uh on which number do you want to save this, and you just press a number on your remote, and then say confirm, okay, and then it's it's saved. It's easier, it's it's it's harder to, if you have already programmed it,
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: to to swap. So
  Michael Ogawa: So
  Maurice Arreola: we have
  Michael Ogawa: but
  Maurice Arreola: to think of something for
  Michael Ogawa: Um
  Maurice Arreola: that.
  Michael Ogawa: Wade Carter can design a menu for all these function
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: I put them on
  Maurice Arreola: k
  Michael Ogawa: the.
  Wade Carter: On
  Maurice Arreola: kind
  Wade Carter: the
  Maurice Arreola: of structure
  Wade Carter: uh
  Maurice Arreola: into
  Wade Carter: yeah can
  Maurice Arreola: layers.
  Wade Carter: you i make a a map with with all the yeah 'cause it's now there are lots and lots of documents
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. Yeah
  Wade Carter: and
  Michael Ogawa: I can. I'll just try to reorganise uh things.
  Maurice Arreola: So
  Michael Ogawa: Um So you design the basic function menu for the L_C_D_ screen? Uh um
  Maurice Arreola: And and
  Michael Ogawa: I think
  Maurice Arreola: the layout of of the thing
  Michael Ogawa: th
  Wade Carter: The
  Maurice Arreola: itself.
  Wade Carter: the layout
  Michael Ogawa: I think
  Wade Carter: of
  Michael Ogawa: the
  Wade Carter: the
  Michael Ogawa: yeah
  Wade Carter: remote
  Michael Ogawa: the layout
  Wade Carter: control?
  Michael Ogawa: of the screen and I think you can concentrate more on the button placement and the placement of the uh screen itself on the.
  Wade Carter: Isn't that more the the u uh the user interface
  Michael Ogawa: No I d
  Wade Carter: part?
  Michael Ogawa: I think that's more in.
  Jose Alexander: Uh all the functional uh aspects of the
  Maurice Arreola: Maybe
  Jose Alexander: remote
  Maurice Arreola: more on
  Jose Alexander: I think are in my department.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: I have to know what it has to do, so if you wanna you know the changing the channels kind of s thing is, I
  Michael Ogawa: Okay.
  Jose Alexander: have to integrate
  Michael Ogawa: So
  Jose Alexander: that
  Michael Ogawa: he's
  Jose Alexander: in the
  Michael Ogawa: layout
  Jose Alexander: design.
  Michael Ogawa: and you're function.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Form function okay.
  Jose Alexander: I think
  Maurice Arreola: Okay.
  Jose Alexander: that's a that's a good
  Wade Carter: But
  Jose Alexander: separation.
  Wade Carter: do I have to to uh to yeah to make the the menu layout also? Or
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: Mm.
  Wade Carter: Are
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: you going to do that?
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah I guess
  Wade Carter: Yeah?
  Maurice Arreola: so.
  Wade Carter: I
  Michael Ogawa: I
  Wade Carter: I'm
  Michael Ogawa: think
  Wade Carter: going
  Michael Ogawa: i that's
  Wade Carter: to make
  Michael Ogawa: your department
  Wade Carter: yeah
  Michael Ogawa: yes,
  Wade Carter: o okay.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: because
  Jose Alexander: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: w he
  Jose Alexander: we have
  Michael Ogawa: already
  Jose Alexander: to
  Michael Ogawa: knows
  Jose Alexander: kind
  Michael Ogawa: what
  Jose Alexander: of work together.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: If
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: if I make the the
  Michael Ogawa: But we're not allowed.
  Jose Alexander: the yeah the menu like, I have to state which function has to be in the menu, and then you have to decide, it's,
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: in a in a way that b is user-friendly.
  Wade Carter: Okay Y. you you are going to make a list of what functions are uh are going to to be on
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: the the screen, the
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: menu screen. And I'm going to make a a nice menu uh
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: with
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: I think yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: With with
  Wade Carter: with pages
  Maurice Arreola: some l
  Wade Carter: and
  Maurice Arreola: with some layers in it. So
  Wade Carter: yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah and also
  Maurice Arreola: some menus.
  Michael Ogawa: make clear which buttons to press to get certain result,
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: because that's always the difficulty. Every device has its own
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Well I guess this this button, the the the okay,
  Michael Ogawa: Menu okay.
  Maurice Arreola: menu
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: okay. Or you can incorporate two uh difference uh different buttons. Uh like uh for your mobile phone. Um so this is only for to get in the menu, or to exit it.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm.
  Maurice Arreola: And then one to confirm, and one to go one step
  Michael Ogawa: Back.
  Maurice Arreola: back.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: So it's like the the save button on your your mobile phone, if you have a Nokia or like that. Or the or the no button.
  Jose Alexander: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: To go one step back you it's only two extra buttons,
  Wade Carter: Yeah. W
  Maurice Arreola: but if
  Wade Carter: we
  Maurice Arreola: it if it's very clear that they are for the screen
  Wade Carter: Uh I think we have to to group, to make two groups. Um the one group for the for the display, and one group for the basic functions, and
  Jose Alexander: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah but they're incorporated?
  Wade Carter: Yeah okay
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah
  Wade Carter: but
  Michael Ogawa: Up
  Maurice Arreola: because
  Wade Carter: we
  Michael Ogawa: and down
  Wade Carter: we
  Maurice Arreola: this
  Wade Carter: have
  Michael Ogawa: is
  Wade Carter: a
  Maurice Arreola: this
  Wade Carter: m
  Maurice Arreola: is used for both.
  Wade Carter: yeah but maybe that's that's not uh yeah if
  Michael Ogawa: Smart?
  Wade Carter: you're if you're z zapping uh with your uh yeah remote control, you can press the the menu button, and then you are suddenly into the the
  Maurice Arreola: Into
  Wade Carter: yeah the
  Maurice Arreola: your
  Wade Carter: display.
  Maurice Arreola: screen. Okay. So you l should
  Jose Alexander: You wanna
  Maurice Arreola: leave
  Jose Alexander: separate
  Maurice Arreola: the menu
  Jose Alexander: uh.
  Maurice Arreola: button out of here.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: And and just
  Michael Ogawa: Put
  Maurice Arreola: put
  Wade Carter: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: it
  Maurice Arreola: it
  Michael Ogawa: on
  Maurice Arreola: under
  Wade Carter: j
  Michael Ogawa: top.
  Maurice Arreola: the screen,
  Wade Carter: just
  Maurice Arreola: the screen
  Wade Carter: just group group the yeah we make these the advanced functions and these the basic functions.
  Michael Ogawa: Mm-hmm.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: So we make a yeah a line between them.
  Maurice Arreola: But we should place the screen on top, right?
  Michael Ogawa: Well
  Wade Carter: F oh yeah. Okay yeah we swap uh
  Michael Ogawa: But
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: that's
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: uh J Jurgen's department.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: So we
  Maurice Arreola: You
  Wade Carter: make
  Maurice Arreola: just
  Wade Carter: it a
  Maurice Arreola: you just find out
  Michael Ogawa: You just make the layout.
  Maurice Arreola: and.
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: You do we do the extra two buttons or not?
  Wade Carter: Uh
  Jose Alexander: I think you should.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: It's easier. If you put too many functions in one button it gets confusing.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: okay. That's true.
  Wade Carter: So we have a a menu button and a s
  Michael Ogawa: And to, okay and back,
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: also.
  Wade Carter: Okay. Okay and back
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah,
  Wade Carter: button.
  Maurice Arreola: or confirm
  Michael Ogawa: And
  Maurice Arreola: and
  Michael Ogawa: of
  Maurice Arreola: back.
  Michael Ogawa: course the four
  Maurice Arreola: Whatever.
  Michael Ogawa: arrows.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: No.
  Michael Ogawa: But those are still y doubly used.
  Maurice Arreola: Should
  Michael Ogawa: Both
  Maurice Arreola: we save
  Michael Ogawa: the L_C_D_
  Maurice Arreola: this picture, or or you know
  Wade Carter: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: what it looks
  Wade Carter: I'm I'm
  Maurice Arreola: like?
  Wade Carter: not s clear about uh the the extra two buttons. We have a menu button
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: and
  Maurice Arreola: That that just to
  Wade Carter: That's
  Maurice Arreola: to activate
  Wade Carter: the the one
  Maurice Arreola: the screen.
  Wade Carter: with the yeah okay.
  Maurice Arreola: So
  Michael Ogawa: Menu button access the menu in the L_C_D_ screen.
  Maurice Arreola: And then with these buttons,
  Michael Ogawa: You can navigate.
  Maurice Arreola: woa, y you navigate.
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: But you can also navigate the channels. And
  Wade Carter: Okay
  Michael Ogawa: the volume.
  Wade Carter: so that that's not uh Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: Those
  Wade Carter: that
  Michael Ogawa: are
  Wade Carter: Those are
  Michael Ogawa: both both
  Wade Carter: multifunctional.
  Jose Alexander: Hey
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Jose Alexander: is it interesting for users if we put LED lights under the buttons? So that if you uh press on the menu function that only the buttons that are
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: used for the menu are ligh
  Maurice Arreola: L
  Jose Alexander: li
  Maurice Arreola: l
  Jose Alexander: light
  Maurice Arreola: litten
  Jose Alexander: up.
  Maurice Arreola: up yeah.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: That's very
  Michael Ogawa: Oh
  Maurice Arreola: good idea.
  Michael Ogawa: five minutes.
  Jose Alexander: N
  Maurice Arreola: Alright. Yeah that's
  Michael Ogawa: Light
  Maurice Arreola: a good idea
  Michael Ogawa: uh
  Maurice Arreola: because then it becomes clear which buttons are active now, which you can use.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah and then it's also easier to integrate several functions in one button.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: sure. Okay.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Um
  Maurice Arreola: So
  Michael Ogawa: Anything else?
  Maurice Arreola: Those buttons are are
  Jose Alexander: I think
  Maurice Arreola: lit
  Jose Alexander: not.
  Maurice Arreola: up. But just one thing. Should we use those two? Them? Or only this to to scroll? And
  Michael Ogawa: I've
  Maurice Arreola: then use the two functional buttons to confirm, to go into something? Oh no we have to use this to adjust
  Michael Ogawa: Volume.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: some
  Jose Alexander: keep
  Maurice Arreola: some
  Jose Alexander: it
  Maurice Arreola: bars?
  Jose Alexander: optional 'cause maybe you can you know go left to right and up and down
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: in a in one menu.
  Maurice Arreola: And maybe we should use this also as an okay button, still. And then just only a back button.
  Michael Ogawa: Well we
  Wade Carter: No
  Jose Alexander: The
  Michael Ogawa: have
  Jose Alexander: pr
  Michael Ogawa: those buttons. We
  Jose Alexander: the
  Michael Ogawa: use
  Jose Alexander: problem
  Michael Ogawa: all four.
  Jose Alexander: with the okay button in the middle is, sorry
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah okay
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah?
  Michael Ogawa: go ahead.
  Jose Alexander: sorry, uh is uh if you're pressing up and down, you can easily press the okay once you, when
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: you're not already at your
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: choice.
  Wade Carter: So maybe make one uh one okay button
  Maurice Arreola: And
  Wade Carter: and
  Maurice Arreola: one
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah
  Maurice Arreola: back.
  Wade Carter: and
  Michael Ogawa: that was
  Wade Carter: one
  Michael Ogawa: already
  Wade Carter: navigation
  Michael Ogawa: decided.
  Wade Carter: button. Yeah the with with the the channel and the volume uh yeah m a multifunctional navigation button.
  Michael Ogawa: Okay that's what we decided
  Wade Carter: Yeah
  Michael Ogawa: earlier
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: on.
  Wade Carter: okay.
  Michael Ogawa: Right okay.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: So
  Jose Alexander: You wanna close down
  Michael Ogawa: yeah I wanna close
  Jose Alexander: huh?
  Michael Ogawa: down.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: I have to, sorry.
  Jose Alexander: That's
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: it's
  Jose Alexander: okay.
  Michael Ogawa: not because I don't like you but yh we have lunch break,
  Jose Alexander: Already.
  Michael Ogawa: and then we can work for thirty minutes, and I have to write very fast to make the minich min minutes.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: And then uh we'll see
  Jose Alexander: Alright. How m how long is the lunchbreak?
  Michael Ogawa: I don't know.
  Maurice Arreola: We have to
  Michael Ogawa: Nobody
  Maurice Arreola: ask.
  Michael Ogawa: told Maurice Arreola.
  Jose Alexander: Okay.
  Wade Carter: But do we have to write uh to write down uh the our stuff now? Or first lunchbreak?
  Michael Ogawa: No I
  Wade Carter: Because
  Michael Ogawa: th
  Wade Carter: I
  Michael Ogawa: believe there's first lunch break.
  Wade Carter: I've everything in my head now so
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. Or you
  Jose Alexander: Mm.
  Michael Ogawa: can just
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah?
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: 'Kay.
  Maurice Arreola: Yes.
  Wade Carter: 'Kay.
  Michael Ogawa: I think
  Jose Alexander: This is
  Michael Ogawa: you can put uh the laptop back in the room and
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: Yes sir.
  Maurice Arreola: Time pressure.
  Michael Ogawa: 'Kay. Yeah it's a lot of pressure.
  Jose Alexander: Yeah. Sorry for my uh
  Michael Ogawa: That's
  Jose Alexander: not
  Michael Ogawa: okay.
  Jose Alexander: finished presentation uh.
  Michael Ogawa: Oh
  Wade Carter: Oh
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Wade Carter: no
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah we'll kick your ass later. No.
  Wade Carter: no.
  Jose Alexander: Bring it on.
  Maurice Arreola: Uh.
  Michael Ogawa: I
  Maurice Arreola: Aye
  Michael Ogawa: don't know if it works but it
  Maurice Arreola: Y
  Michael Ogawa: should
  Maurice Arreola: you
  Michael Ogawa: be
  Maurice Arreola: saved
  Michael Ogawa: saved.
  Maurice Arreola: it? Does it save automatically in the project folder? Or
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. It's uh
  Maurice Arreola: Okay. We'll see. Just
  Michael Ogawa: Should
  Maurice Arreola: put back
  Michael Ogawa: be
  Maurice Arreola: my
  Michael Ogawa: here.
  Maurice Arreola: laptop.
  Michael Ogawa: Smart board.
  Maurice Arreola: Alright.
  Michael Ogawa: Don't know if
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: you can use it but
  Maurice Arreola: Yeah you can open it with the picture
  Wade Carter: And
  Maurice Arreola: preview
  Wade Carter: uh we
  Maurice Arreola: or
  Wade Carter: have
  Maurice Arreola: stuff
  Wade Carter: to make
  Maurice Arreola: like that.
  Wade Carter: uh some maps with uh with the all the the data we uh
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Wade Carter: gathered.
  Michael Ogawa: I try to organise it by these three. Yeah yeah
  Wade Carter: It's it's just my own map so
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Wade Carter: I put everything into the
  Michael Ogawa: I don't really mind. I just put the minutes here and we'll see.
  Wade Carter: But you got some extra information uh
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah that's in the functional design uh folder.
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. Yeah that's just basically what I just showed.
  Wade Carter: But where do you did you get the newsflash?
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah. Yeah I got it by
  Wade Carter: You're the only one
  Michael Ogawa: yeah.
  Wade Carter: uh okay.
  Michael Ogawa: I'm
  Maurice Arreola: internet.
  Michael Ogawa: gonna get kicked if I don't do it so
  Wade Carter: Okay.
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Maurice Arreola: Alright.
  Wade Carter: Yeah.
  Michael Ogawa: Make Maurice Arreola proud.
  Jose Alexander: I'll try to. So first we have a lunchbreak now?
  Michael Ogawa: Yeah.
  Jose Alexander: Alright.
  Michael Ogawa: I believe so. just ask.
  Jose Alexander: Mm-hmm. I dunno where she.
Updated Content: Maurice Arreola reported on research which shows that users think most remotes are ugly, easily lost and bad for RSI. Audio settings are rarely used, and the power, channel and volume buttons are used most often. The remote should be user-friendly and have a good look and feel. Maurice Arreola and project manager described the new requirements that the target group is users under 40, the remote should not include teletext, should be only for TV, and should feature the corporate logo. Wade Carter showed examples of two contrasting remotes, recommending that they should use the best features of both. The group decided to use an LCD screen and speech recognition. Jose Alexander described how a remote works, and explained that his presentation was incomplete because he had not received the necessary information in time. The group discussed what functions to include and the layout of the remote, and Maurice Arreola drew a possible design on the board. They decided to have buttons for the basic functions and make the advanced functions accessible through the screen. They also discussed what buttons would be needed to navigate the menu on the LCD screen.