Extracted Content: Catherine Gentles: Here we go again.
  Laura Mcdonald: My mouse is not working anymore.
  Catherine Gentles: Oh.
  Angelita Barnett: Oh.
  Laura Mcdonald: uh
  Catherine Gentles: Okay.
  Laura Mcdonald: when I put it in, is is going to beep beep beep.
  Angelita Barnett: Oh, I got a nice little screen over here. I got like this big black border uh on every side.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: Mm, okay.
  Maxine Canty: Everybody ready?
  Angelita Barnett: I'll I'll fix it.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: Welcome
  Angelita Barnett: whatever.
  Maxine Canty: at the
  Catherine Gentles: it's okay.
  Maxine Canty: functional design, again presented by Maarten. Uh this is the agenda, the opening. Uh, we've got three presentations. And I'm gonna show you some of the new projects requirements that were sent to Angelita Barnett. And we're gonna make a decision on the remote control functions. We have uh forty minutes.
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: Oh, well this is the the closing already. So uh well we start off with the th the first presentation then. think
  Catherine Gentles: Okay.
  Maxine Canty: um in we have to do it in uh in right order. Maybe the
  Angelita Barnett: I don't know what the right order is. So
  Maxine Canty: Well,
  Catherine Gentles: No.
  Maxine Canty: it
  Laura Mcdonald: Huh.
  Maxine Canty: Oh that. It won't doesn't Maybe we should start with the the technical functions.
  Laura Mcdonald: Okay, how
  Maxine Canty: Yeah?
  Laura Mcdonald: can I get this on the
  Maxine Canty: Well it's you
  Laura Mcdonald: whiteboard?
  Maxine Canty: dumped the file in the
  Catherine Gentles: In project.
  Maxine Canty: uh
  Laura Mcdonald: Okay,
  Maxine Canty: in the sh in the project
  Laura Mcdonald: I've done
  Maxine Canty: document
  Laura Mcdonald: that.
  Maxine Canty: folder. You've already done that?
  Catherine Gentles: No
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes.
  Catherine Gentles: can that open.
  Maxine Canty: Well let's close this one. We'll just uh open a new
  Catherine Gentles: Open
  Maxine Canty: one.
  Catherine Gentles: it there.
  Maxine Canty: Uh, well. Yes. Uh-oh. New thing. Oh yeah, uh I have to say something. Uh, due to some uh technical problems I haven't uh digitized the last uh the meeting minutes. But
  Angelita Barnett: Mm-hmm.
  Maxine Canty: I'll uh make sure that uh happens next time.
  Catherine Gentles: Okay. About the
  Maxine Canty: And
  Catherine Gentles: get
  Maxine Canty: I'll get this one uh in digital uh form too.
  Laura Mcdonald: 'Kay, we're going to um uh talk about working design. Um, the method of the remote control is uh electrical energy, it activates a chip uh in the remote.
  Laura Mcdonald: the television. Mm, it's a nowadays very uh known, a known uh uh technology. Um, the known technology can make a cost very low. Uh, it's a wild uh a wide sale uh of uh remote controls in the world. And and the components are very uh very cheap. Um, Uh, diodes, uh bat batteries and uh uh LED lights, they're needed and they're uh everywhere available. Uh, again, it's a fair price. It's a common uh technology uh, like I told um Uh, the circuit board, it's the most um important uh um part of the remote control. Uh, we can use for that uh fibreglass with copper wires, it's it is uh can be made as fast as printing paper. It's uh it's
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Laura Mcdonald: all very uh Yeah, they're making it uh all the time. Uh,
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Laura Mcdonald: and it's not uh very specialised uh technology. I haven't come to here, but um I've got uh some uh images of uh remote controls. They were not uh very uh trendy or just uh just a remote control like everyone knows. So I don't know uh why I should put it here. Uh
  Maxine Canty: Okay. But it's the technical side of the remote control.
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes, but uh I uh haven't made it
  Maxine Canty: Oh.
  Laura Mcdonald: because uh of the time.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Laura Mcdonald: But
  Maxine Canty: Well, we'll we'll have to skip that part then.
  Laura Mcdonald: What?
  Catherine Gentles: Okay.
  Maxine Canty: But you don't think it's a problem um to design uh the technical part of the remote control?
  Laura Mcdonald: No.
  Maxine Canty: It's gonna be easy?
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: But nothing restricted for user interface?
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: With
  Laura Mcdonald: Um,
  Catherine Gentles: technical
  Maxine Canty: M
  Laura Mcdonald: no,
  Catherine Gentles: I don't know.
  Laura Mcdonald: it's uh
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Laura Mcdonald: it's just a part of uh a known technology, yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: 'Kay.
  Laura Mcdonald: Remote control is nothing special nowadays.
  Maxine Canty: R
  Catherine Gentles: Okay.
  Maxine Canty: regardless of what type of functions we want to implement. Doesn't really matter.
  Laura Mcdonald: Um
  Catherine Gentles: But I kind of
  Laura Mcdonald: I don't
  Catherine Gentles: uh
  Laura Mcdonald: think so,
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Laura Mcdonald: because of
  Catherine Gentles: Yes.
  Laura Mcdonald: the all
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Laura Mcdonald: the
  Maxine Canty: okay.
  Laura Mcdonald: televisions uh
  Catherine Gentles: Uh
  Laura Mcdonald: there are a few maybe a couple of televisions with the new functions,
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Laura Mcdonald: but is it useful to put them on a on a standard uh remote?
  Maxine Canty: Well, we'll see. We'll see later on.
  Catherine Gentles: Well, the technical functions. Um, well I don't know if you got the same uh pictures as I got,
  Maxine Canty: No.
  Catherine Gentles: but
  Laura Mcdonald: No.
  Catherine Gentles: uh I got these two, and I think they're we have to focus uh on uh the uh one hand the expert view or the novice user. th I think it's it's very much uh depending on the user requirements, I don't s uh know who's doing
  Maxine Canty: Well, uh will
  Catherine Gentles: t
  Maxine Canty: there be some uh user requirements later on?
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: The ones
  Catherine Gentles: but it
  Maxine Canty: I I've uh received
  Catherine Gentles: I think
  Maxine Canty: from
  Catherine Gentles: that's
  Maxine Canty: the account
  Catherine Gentles: very
  Maxine Canty: manager.
  Catherine Gentles: important to watch
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: uh what kind of functions there we want to uh put in a remote control.
  Maxine Canty: Well, we'll keep this in mind, and then discuss it later on.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah, well y we can put functions in it when uh yeah, when we uh get the user requirements
  Maxine Canty: Uh-huh.
  Catherine Gentles: uh and we can
  Maxine Canty: Okay,
  Catherine Gentles: update
  Maxine Canty: but this
  Catherine Gentles: it.
  Maxine Canty: real this uh big d uh distinction between this type of remote. we should we should choose one uh we should not compromise but uh really choose for uh expert
  Angelita Barnett: Yes,
  Maxine Canty: viewer or novice
  Angelita Barnett: I agree.
  Maxine Canty: v
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah? Well, what that's what you want trying to say.
  Catherine Gentles: Well, yeah w if you want try a a a huge market, if you want to reach a huge market, uh like elderly people and we have to choose for
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: novice user.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: But I don't know. It's it's really um
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: depending
  Maxine Canty: well
  Catherine Gentles: on how
  Maxine Canty: some
  Catherine Gentles: how
  Maxine Canty: of
  Catherine Gentles: how
  Maxine Canty: these
  Catherine Gentles: far
  Maxine Canty: Uh, yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: the the the remote controls are already in n um
  Maxine Canty: Well, some
  Catherine Gentles: in
  Maxine Canty: of
  Catherine Gentles: use.
  Maxine Canty: that will Yeah, but i but it will be more clear when we come to the uh u uh some of the new requirements.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Catherine Gentles: probably,
  Maxine Canty: So
  Catherine Gentles: yeah. Uh well, there are l at least uh basic functions, uh like just th the channels uh one till nine, uh on and off switch, which must be clear with a red button or something like that. Um, most standard uh have volume, of course, and a mute function, and, of course, the next and previous channel. I think that's just basic what we need.
  Maxine Canty: Mm-hmm.
  Catherine Gentles: And from that on we can user requirements what we need more. Uh Yeah, I just um um I thought Joost was looking at the trendy the trends in the markets,
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Catherine Gentles: and I don't know if there uh are any um uh if you put more functions, more buttons, maybe it's com becoming less trendy or something like that. M you can just
  Angelita Barnett: I haven't really found a
  Catherine Gentles: you
  Angelita Barnett: conclusion
  Catherine Gentles: can k
  Angelita Barnett: like that.
  Catherine Gentles: you can keep it in mind that.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: I don't know. Uh, I th I thought the the with less buttons you can make a more trendier uh
  Angelita Barnett: Design.
  Catherine Gentles: yeah, more trendier design, I think. I think.
  Angelita Barnett: Sounds interesting.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah? Uh, well, that's all I have to say, I think.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah, that
  Angelita Barnett: Alright.
  Catherine Gentles: was it.
  Maxine Canty: Well, then Angelita Barnett can uh
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: tell us something about the current market.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah. It's alright. Um
  Angelita Barnett: Alright, done some requirements. Um yes. The working method um there were hundred uh uh w h one hundred people, uh how do you say uh, f watched using remote controls in the usability lab and they also uh filled out a questionnaire uh with a few questions. Uh, I've lined them up here. Uh, ask whether um common remote control looks good or not, about willingness to spend money on remote control, about zapping behaviour, and uh and stuff like that. I uh have found some interesting things. We do we do got a market. Um, three out of four people claim m uh to find remote controls ugly. So if we make a trendy design, we sure have seventy fi seventy five percent of the market, which you can reach. Um, three out of four users uh zaps a lot, as I uh quoted here from the uh results. Zap buttons are used one hundred and sixty eight times per hour. That's quite a lot. Um, relevant options are, of course, power buttons. Although, only used once per hour. Uh, channel selection, volume and buttons for text, and the more um, yeah, other functions, like audio settings, video settings, sound settings are not said to be very important and uh very much used. Furthermore, fifty percent says uh they only use ten percent of the buttons on a remote control. That doesn't say we got we can leave ninety percent off. But it sure um says we shouldn't make it too uh complicated. Fifty percent also claims uh to have lost a remote control very often in the room. And um an important thing here, the most important customers uh, which is over seventy percent of our market, is in the age range of thirty six to sixty five years old. And uh elderly people, our market, are less interested in uh nice features, but more willingly to spend more money on remote controls. So, what I was thinking oh, wrong side. We shouldn't implement too much features on uh on our remote control, because elderly people will get th lost. Group features for a higher usability, uh what I was claiming in the previous meeting. Um, all the settings, about audio settings, video settings and channel settings, which are not very often used, we could group them uh on one button and make them accessible uh in one menu button or whatever, because they are used very rarely and well, it uh there are a lot of options there, so we can really make uh yeah, how do you say, we can spare at buttons over there.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Angelita Barnett: And um, if you want to implement V_C_R_ and D_V_D_ options, group them in the button, not too uh Yeah. Small buttons, so they won't be very um, how do you say
  Maxine Canty: Visually presents.
  Angelita Barnett: Yes, won't be very present, thank you. And a trendy look, well uh, although seventy percent of the market is uh consists of elderly people uh who don't really care for trendy looks or whatever, I guess it can do no harm to make it trendy for the other thirty percent. That was kind of what I found.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: Okay.
  Angelita Barnett: Okay.
  Maxine Canty: Well, then we I'm gonna show you some of the new project requirements and then we gonna discuss on uh
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: what features we find important. Uh, well some of the uh new requirements make some of your findings quite uh irrelevant, I think. Because um uh s decided to put They have decide to put two additional requirements forward. Well, now I see
  Angelita Barnett: Two?
  Maxine Canty: four. That's kinda strange. Well, they say tele teletext becomes outdated since the popularity of the internet. Well, I think
  Catherine Gentles: Well
  Maxine Canty: that may be so, but well, we can't just leave the teletext button off.
  Angelita Barnett: No
  Maxine Canty: It's impossible,
  Catherine Gentles: No
  Angelita Barnett: uh,
  Catherine Gentles: way.
  Maxine Canty: I
  Angelita Barnett: I
  Maxine Canty: think.
  Angelita Barnett: agree, I agree.
  Maxine Canty: So the compromise we could make is just to make one teletext button, you know, like on and off, and don't make a lot of special put a lot of special features on it to
  Angelita Barnett: Not too
  Maxine Canty: make
  Angelita Barnett: much,
  Maxine Canty: it transparent
  Angelita Barnett: no.
  Maxine Canty: or You know, it's just you want you want to be able to make use of teletext, but not to play with it that much.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: So we have to think of that. The remote control should only be used for television. Otherwise, the project becomes more complex, which endangers the time t t ma uh the time to market. So maybe we should leave all D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ related features
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: off completely.
  Angelita Barnett: Okay.
  Maxine Canty: I don't know. I think that uh that's what they're trying to say. Uh, our current customers are within the age group of forty plus. New products should reach a new market with customers that are younger than forty. So you uh talked about the elderly who were willing
  Angelita Barnett: Mm-hmm.
  Maxine Canty: to spend more on a remote control and who were interested. But, well, they're not relevant because we are aiming at a younger
  Angelita Barnett: I don't really agree actually, to be honest. It's a very small market which we will approach then if we uh want to reach customers younger than forty. It's only like thirty percent of the total market.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but it is
  Angelita Barnett: Mayb
  Maxine Canty: it's
  Angelita Barnett: yeah?
  Maxine Canty: is a dif it's a fact that the th th that bigger market you're talking about, we already cover that. Our company already sells remote control to the older people, but we we also want, you know, a new customer group. That's the one we haven't covered yet. So I think that's what the problem is. We haven't
  Angelita Barnett: Okay.
  Maxine Canty: got remote controls for uh Well
  Angelita Barnett: Maybe
  Maxine Canty: I think, yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: maybe we can compromise a little
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Angelita Barnett: bit.
  Maxine Canty: I think so. Maybe if
  Angelita Barnett: Not
  Maxine Canty: it's
  Angelita Barnett: too much then, bu
  Maxine Canty: no no,
  Angelita Barnett: alright.
  Maxine Canty: but I think we have to just keep in mind what the older age group wants. So maybe we can make a remote control that's primarily interesting for the younger group, but isn't that bad for an older person either.
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: Uh, our corporate image sh should stay recognisable in our products. Okay, something else nice to
  Catherine Gentles: But
  Maxine Canty: know.
  Catherine Gentles: what's our slogan?
  Maxine Canty: Sorry? Yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: The slogan uh
  Maxine Canty: you will have to look that up.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, I'll have a look. We
  Maxine Canty: I
  Angelita Barnett: put
  Maxine Canty: think it's
  Angelita Barnett: the
  Catherine Gentles: Puts
  Maxine Canty: something
  Angelita Barnett: fashion
  Catherine Gentles: fashion
  Maxine Canty: about
  Catherine Gentles: in
  Angelita Barnett: in
  Maxine Canty: the
  Angelita Barnett: electronics.
  Catherine Gentles: electronics.
  Maxine Canty: Oh, okay. I thought it w might be, let's make things better or something, but
  Angelita Barnett: Sense
  Catherine Gentles: Sense
  Angelita Barnett: and simplicity.
  Catherine Gentles: simplicity.
  Maxine Canty: Okay well, let's go back to the the agenda. So we've now had to the three presentations. We know about the new project requirements. That means we can uh well d yeah, discuss on the remote control functions. Well, if I can uh make a start, I think it's becoming more clear what kind of remote control it's gonna be, and I already talked about the maybe you have a f familiar with the rem remote control that has the the can opener underneath it. I think we're we're looking for some Yeah, we we're looking for a really simple remote control with only basic T_V_ functions. Y
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: Well,
  Maxine Canty: well,
  Angelita Barnett: to
  Maxine Canty: that
  Angelita Barnett: be honest, if um our uh aim group is uh till forty, not
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: older than forty, maybe that's not very uh yeah, we don't really need
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: to have a simple remote control. I think we can implement more functions then, because um
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah, but
  Angelita Barnett: basically
  Catherine Gentles: wha
  Angelita Barnett: uh the younger people are more able to adapt to new technology and therefore
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, yeah. M
  Angelita Barnett: will be a more
  Maxine Canty: yeah, that's
  Catherine Gentles: But
  Maxine Canty: why um well a lot of um the use the requirements the the account manager sent Angelita Barnett, I think they are are c are contradicting each other, because they want a simpler design,
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: and no uh other uh s functions than just T_V_, but they s do aim at a younger
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah, but you
  Maxine Canty: Well,
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: sai
  Maxine Canty: ma
  Catherine Gentles: you said that that a lot of functions aren't used. So why should j we put this function in?
  Angelita Barnett: Well,
  Catherine Gentles: I
  Angelita Barnett: I
  Catherine Gentles: think
  Angelita Barnett: think
  Catherine Gentles: more I think uh people younger people are more looking for just a trendy look than uh more functions.
  Maxine Canty: But I think uh you we can make some discuss uh distinctions in uh what kin in the, know, th th in functions you have Y Well you have different kind of uh equipment in your room, like a t
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: T_V_ and a D_V_D_ player. You can uh, know, you you can make very d you can put very detailed functions regarding the T_V_ set on your remote control uh with the with uh the, you know, audio settings and uh v uh screen settings. We don't want that. I think that was that became clear. We don't want. But w maybe we should put some func uh, I know that the younger people will most likely have a D_V_D_ player they want to, you know, they want to
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: uh
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah, but
  Angelita Barnett: control.
  Catherine Gentles: uh you
  Maxine Canty: control,
  Catherine Gentles: said Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: remotely.
  Catherine Gentles: d yeah, but th the functions are not in the remote control we're making.
  Maxine Canty: No, yeah, th
  Catherine Gentles: It's
  Maxine Canty: th the
  Catherine Gentles: n
  Maxine Canty: user requirements of the the The new project requirements told
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: us not to But maybe w Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: I think we maybe should Yeah, well we should uh put some functions for other maybe for other equipment on it. But just the basic functions. Maybe like rewind and wind, or n what d what
  Laura Mcdonald: But
  Maxine Canty: do
  Angelita Barnett: Not
  Laura Mcdonald: you
  Maxine Canty: you
  Laura Mcdonald: can
  Maxine Canty: guys
  Angelita Barnett: much
  Laura Mcdonald: put
  Angelita Barnett: more
  Maxine Canty: think?
  Laura Mcdonald: them
  Angelita Barnett: than
  Laura Mcdonald: under
  Angelita Barnett: that.
  Laura Mcdonald: the same button.
  Angelita Barnett: Yep.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, if as far as possible.
  Angelita Barnett: Or we can u u we could put 'em behind the flip-flap or whatever. So
  Maxine Canty: But what
  Angelita Barnett: t
  Maxine Canty: do you think? Do th should we implement features that uh uh or functions that to control other devices?
  Catherine Gentles: No.
  Maxine Canty: No, you don't think
  Catherine Gentles: No,
  Maxine Canty: so?
  Catherine Gentles: new requirements say
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: no.
  Maxine Canty: the new requirements say so.
  Catherine Gentles: So
  Laura Mcdonald: But you can put a play and stop and and
  Maxine Canty: Well, maybe
  Laura Mcdonald: rewind.
  Maxine Canty: it's maybe
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: there
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: there there is
  Catherine Gentles: but
  Maxine Canty: something th m most of the time these functions don't support the particular device as well as their their own remote control. You know, a lot of D_V_D_ players have some tricky
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes, but
  Maxine Canty: settings
  Laura Mcdonald: we
  Angelita Barnett: Y yes.
  Maxine Canty: with
  Catherine Gentles: I i if it's too simple uh th they won't use the remote control,
  Maxine Canty: Yep,
  Catherine Gentles: they
  Maxine Canty: exactly.
  Catherine Gentles: use their own th th with
  Maxine Canty: That's
  Catherine Gentles: lot
  Maxine Canty: that's
  Catherine Gentles: more
  Angelita Barnett: But
  Maxine Canty: wha
  Catherine Gentles: functions.
  Angelita Barnett: but for for example, V_C_R_, that's better example in this case.
  Maxine Canty: No no, you
  Catherine Gentles: No,
  Maxine Canty: don't
  Catherine Gentles: no.
  Laura Mcdonald: Huh.
  Maxine Canty: No no, you
  Catherine Gentles: Exactly.
  Maxine Canty: don't need it. No, no.
  Angelita Barnett: just play, stop, rewind and uh fast
  Maxine Canty: Okay,
  Angelita Barnett: forward.
  Maxine Canty: but we have to think uh w we have to think D_V_D_ I th
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: uh,
  Angelita Barnett: I know, but
  Maxine Canty: I
  Angelita Barnett: uh
  Maxine Canty: guess, so um but uh from my experience it's kinda a lot of D_V_D_ players, you know, like forwarding, goes differently. Uh, you get two speed or eight speed or sixteen speed.
  Catherine Gentles: Mm, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: It's c sometimes a bit difficult. Maybe if we just leave the D_V_D_ functional m uh Well, I was thinking about putting it in, but concerning the project requirements and what you just
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: said, I
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: think we m
  Catherine Gentles: but just
  Maxine Canty: should focus on the T_V_ then.
  Catherine Gentles: keep it simple and look more at
  Maxine Canty: And
  Catherine Gentles: th
  Maxine Canty: uh and it's just an uh a complimentary remote and not a universal one. If you want to
  Catherine Gentles: No.
  Maxine Canty: keep it simple, you can make a universal remote.
  Catherine Gentles: It's only for television.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: So
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes,
  Maxine Canty: It's
  Laura Mcdonald: but
  Maxine Canty: just
  Laura Mcdonald: there are
  Maxine Canty: a s it
  Laura Mcdonald: there
  Maxine Canty: it should
  Laura Mcdonald: are
  Maxine Canty: be something that is like a gadget on your coffee table, and it's just for when you you you jump on the couch, you pick up the
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: the the nice remote, the simple one, just
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: to put on the television,
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: nothing more.
  Catherine Gentles: nothing more.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: Exactly.
  Angelita Barnett: Alright.
  Maxine Canty: Um, but
  Laura Mcdonald: But
  Maxine Canty: what
  Laura Mcdonald: how wi how
  Maxine Canty: televis
  Laura Mcdonald: will you be able to handle a whole market? There are uh a dozen of uh dozens of of remote controls
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, we
  Laura Mcdonald: that
  Maxine Canty: we'll
  Laura Mcdonald: have
  Maxine Canty: make w this one trendy.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: And
  Catherine Gentles: The
  Maxine Canty: simple. Well,
  Catherine Gentles: user
  Maxine Canty: we we
  Catherine Gentles: interface
  Maxine Canty: will come to that,
  Catherine Gentles: is
  Maxine Canty: but
  Catherine Gentles: easy.
  Maxine Canty: ju first on the on the functions. So we should put uh zap buttons on it. Um, also
  Catherine Gentles: And the
  Maxine Canty: numbers,
  Catherine Gentles: basic
  Maxine Canty: to uh to
  Catherine Gentles: yeah,
  Maxine Canty: go to
  Catherine Gentles: basic
  Maxine Canty: the specific
  Catherine Gentles: functions,
  Angelita Barnett: Yes,
  Maxine Canty: channels.
  Catherine Gentles: yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: definitely, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Uh,
  Catherine Gentles: It's too much integrated
  Maxine Canty: Okay,
  Catherine Gentles: in
  Maxine Canty: a
  Catherine Gentles: the
  Maxine Canty: t a
  Catherine Gentles: other.
  Maxine Canty: teletext button should be there. But
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: just one big teletext button, on and off. Probably.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, and maybe two or three other options, but not nothing more than that. I think stop function is very useful. If you have a uh a page which consists of more pages, and you are not a very quick reader,
  Maxine Canty: Oh,
  Angelita Barnett: then
  Maxine Canty: okay.
  Angelita Barnett: I think it's very irritating if
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Angelita Barnett: the next
  Maxine Canty: but uh
  Angelita Barnett: page
  Maxine Canty: I think
  Angelita Barnett: shows
  Maxine Canty: that
  Angelita Barnett: up,
  Maxine Canty: becomes
  Angelita Barnett: but
  Maxine Canty: too difficult, it's not a very common function and people
  Angelita Barnett: Well,
  Maxine Canty: will have
  Angelita Barnett: I use
  Maxine Canty: to read
  Angelita Barnett: it
  Maxine Canty: up
  Angelita Barnett: very
  Maxine Canty: on
  Angelita Barnett: regularly,
  Maxine Canty: their remote
  Angelita Barnett: the action.
  Maxine Canty: then.
  Angelita Barnett: I re I use it
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, yeah, but maybe
  Angelita Barnett: quite often.
  Maxine Canty: you s yeah yeah, maybe y you do, but
  Catherine Gentles: Will
  Maxine Canty: I've never
  Catherine Gentles: you look
  Maxine Canty: heard of it in the first place. And we have to well
  Catherine Gentles: Look at the market.
  Maxine Canty: t yeah, and t and teletext is becoming outdated. We just want to see what programmes are on and what time it is probably. Yeah. I don't know. I think that that's kin getting too complex for our remote.
  Catherine Gentles: Well
  Maxine Canty: I don't
  Angelita Barnett: Might
  Maxine Canty: know what
  Angelita Barnett: be.
  Maxine Canty: you
  Angelita Barnett: Might
  Maxine Canty: th guys think.
  Angelita Barnett: be.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah, I uh, it's Sunday I always use it for the uh yeah, for the soccer uh
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but do you like to have a such a s stop button? Or do you think it uh I think it's a kind of uh uh
  Catherine Gentles: Well,
  Maxine Canty: very
  Catherine Gentles: uh
  Maxine Canty: rare and
  Catherine Gentles: when
  Maxine Canty: special
  Catherine Gentles: you uh
  Maxine Canty: function.
  Catherine Gentles: uh when you look uh for example um, a couple of weeks ago I looked at the for the flights, and
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: there are a lot of flights
  Maxine Canty: Okay,
  Catherine Gentles: in
  Maxine Canty: it
  Catherine Gentles: one
  Maxine Canty: goes
  Catherine Gentles: page,
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but
  Catherine Gentles: so
  Maxine Canty: that's
  Catherine Gentles: if
  Maxine Canty: kind of
  Catherine Gentles: if
  Maxine Canty: stuff
  Catherine Gentles: th
  Maxine Canty: we should do on the internet right now. That's
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes,
  Maxine Canty: why
  Laura Mcdonald: but you
  Maxine Canty: it was
  Laura Mcdonald: could
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: uh
  Laura Mcdonald: put
  Maxine Canty: said
  Catherine Gentles: but
  Maxine Canty: in the in the use in the r
  Laura Mcdonald: on
  Maxine Canty: new requirements.
  Laura Mcdonald: the z on the zap buttons you can put it to uh to uh access all the same pages. If you have
  Maxine Canty: Well
  Laura Mcdonald: seven
  Maxine Canty: yeah uh,
  Laura Mcdonald: pages,
  Maxine Canty: lots of
  Laura Mcdonald: you
  Maxine Canty: new
  Laura Mcdonald: can
  Maxine Canty: televisions
  Laura Mcdonald: go up and down.
  Maxine Canty: can store pages, you know, and
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: then you can just skip manually through them using
  Catherine Gentles: True.
  Maxine Canty: I think we should just put one teletext button on it. Then we meet uh the new requirements. we also meet the other thin y you sh you just re we have to choose for the the simple design, I
  Catherine Gentles: A simple
  Maxine Canty: guess.
  Catherine Gentles: yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Okay. Um, well, what functions do we have to decide on? Or do we uh I dunno if we have t stif specifically name all the functions we n we want. We have the zap and uh the volume. Should we do m make them very big? The the the zap button. D
  Angelita Barnett: I
  Maxine Canty: d
  Angelita Barnett: think
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes.
  Angelita Barnett: the plus and the minus button
  Maxine Canty: Th that's
  Angelita Barnett: should
  Maxine Canty: that's
  Angelita Barnett: be uh
  Maxine Canty: that's considered to be
  Catherine Gentles: But
  Maxine Canty: trendy
  Angelita Barnett: quite present,
  Maxine Canty: also.
  Catherine Gentles: trendy, yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: yep.
  Catherine Gentles: I don't
  Maxine Canty: Or
  Catherine Gentles: know.
  Maxine Canty: maybe you should place them on a uh,
  Laura Mcdonald: Maybe
  Maxine Canty: in a special
  Laura Mcdonald: we can make
  Maxine Canty: way?
  Laura Mcdonald: uh a kind of a joystick.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, something or uh somethin special way to to zap through the it has to s it has to be yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: Original.
  Maxine Canty: and quick. You have
  Catherine Gentles: It was uh
  Maxine Canty: to use it very quickly.
  Angelita Barnett: Yep.
  Catherine Gentles: True.
  Angelita Barnett: If you grab the remote, your hands should be on top
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Angelita Barnett: of the plus.
  Maxine Canty: and it the buttons should make it um possible to to zap through your channels in a rapid at a rapid pace.
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: Oh, what should we decide on then? I
  Laura Mcdonald: But
  Maxine Canty: think in a in a case
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: of this simple remote control, the technical aspects which uh weren't worked out already, but it w shouldn't be a problem then.
  Laura Mcdonald: No, it's o just signals uh
  Maxine Canty: Yep.
  Catherine Gentles: Maybe
  Laura Mcdonald: and
  Catherine Gentles: uh
  Laura Mcdonald: the television d uh does the rest.
  Maxine Canty: No, okay, but we don't have to uh, when we don't want to uh control other devices, I think
  Laura Mcdonald: No.
  Maxine Canty: it makes it even more simple.
  Catherine Gentles: Uh maybe we uh uh the batteries maybe. If you use large batteries or small batter batteries.
  Laura Mcdonald: The most
  Maxine Canty: I think
  Laura Mcdonald: standard batteries.
  Maxine Canty: I think
  Angelita Barnett: I
  Maxine Canty: that
  Angelita Barnett: think
  Maxine Canty: we
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah?
  Maxine Canty: should
  Angelita Barnett: double
  Maxine Canty: use
  Angelita Barnett: A_.
  Maxine Canty: uh d yeah, not
  Angelita Barnett: Yep.
  Maxine Canty: not uh the b the watch kind th the most uh Well, it has to be simple, and I
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: The
  Maxine Canty: wi
  Angelita Barnett: most ordinary uh
  Maxine Canty: Which are most likely
  Angelita Barnett: batteries.
  Maxine Canty: to be found somewhere in
  Catherine Gentles: Okay.
  Maxine Canty: the house, you know.
  Angelita Barnett: Yep.
  Maxine Canty: Oh. How much time do we ha we have left uh? M
  Angelita Barnett: I
  Maxine Canty: m
  Angelita Barnett: think
  Maxine Canty: m more
  Angelita Barnett: about
  Maxine Canty: than thirty
  Angelita Barnett: twenty minutes.
  Maxine Canty: minutes? Uh ten twenty minutes.
  Laura Mcdonald: But
  Maxine Canty: Well,
  Laura Mcdonald: i
  Catherine Gentles: Early
  Maxine Canty: uh these
  Catherine Gentles: break.
  Maxine Canty: these shouldn't
  Laura Mcdonald: in a way we have to be uh uh special.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah. Yeah, okay. But that's that's Do you uh have you have you think about tha thought about that? How we can what the extra touch can be.
  Laura Mcdonald: Maybe
  Maxine Canty: Do you suggest
  Laura Mcdonald: th m
  Maxine Canty: design or the shape or some gadget f f kind of feature or Well, it was something about how we lose them. Maybe it should be a remote control when you you clap you hands it makes some noise or some gadget kind of thing.
  Angelita Barnett: I think
  Catherine Gentles: To
  Angelita Barnett: that's
  Catherine Gentles: find
  Angelita Barnett: n
  Catherine Gentles: him.
  Angelita Barnett: that's more
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: for
  Catherine Gentles: That's
  Angelita Barnett: a
  Catherine Gentles: maybe yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: for an age range or uh ten to twelve or whatever.
  Maxine Canty: I don't know. I don't know. Nah, um a lot of people like to have such kind kind of kind of gay kind of things. It w it w should be like a birthday present or something that you give
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: someone, and it is
  Angelita Barnett: yeah,
  Maxine Canty: i
  Angelita Barnett: that's
  Maxine Canty: has
  Angelita Barnett: good
  Maxine Canty: something
  Angelita Barnett: one,
  Maxine Canty: nice.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: yep.
  Maxine Canty: Or maybe it w should have a big uh light that can flash or something on it, or maybe it should or an or the like the the can opener. Maybe it contains some feature that you don't normally link to a remote control. I think it's very impor because we're gonna make such a basic
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: remote control, we have to do something to make it special. It's gonna cost twenty five Euros.
  Angelita Barnett: Ye I think the can opener i is a brilliant idea actually, because
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: the
  Catherine Gentles: but
  Maxine Canty: well,
  Angelita Barnett: television
  Catherine Gentles: that's
  Maxine Canty: it's already been
  Angelita Barnett: and
  Maxine Canty: done.
  Angelita Barnett: beer
  Catherine Gentles: yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: is not a rare combination.
  Maxine Canty: Nah. Yeah, that's true. But and I think it's gonna be uh very uh it has to be sturdy or something, so maybe with
  Angelita Barnett: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: with bouncing pads so that you can just throw it on the floor or something. it
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: has to be used something special,
  Angelita Barnett: Yep.
  Maxine Canty: and you really it has to, you know y not s people, when they buy it, they have to think, well this one lasts for a long time. We're really gonna use them. Not some thing you you throw away next week, you know.
  Angelita Barnett: No, that's true.
  Maxine Canty: So maybe uh that's i I think that's when uh when we decide on these type of functions, know, basic functions, uh it's very important to find something like this. So there's a very important task for you. And maybe we can all think
  Catherine Gentles: Be
  Maxine Canty: about
  Catherine Gentles: original,
  Maxine Canty: it.
  Catherine Gentles: yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Uh, also for you maybe, when t you it's very nice when you can be entra when you can be trendy, and and
  Catherine Gentles: Mm-hmm.
  Maxine Canty: uh and al as in a
  Catherine Gentles: And
  Maxine Canty: friend
  Catherine Gentles: use
  Maxine Canty: use
  Catherine Gentles: friendly,
  Maxine Canty: friendly as well,
  Catherine Gentles: yeah.
  Maxine Canty: you know. So
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: big buttons, flashy design,
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: and maybe some kind of gadget kind of thing.
  Catherine Gentles: Must
  Maxine Canty: Uh-huh.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: brain-storm.
  Angelita Barnett: a swapable front or whatever.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, or just different colours would be uh I don't know if people also wanna spend more money on fronts for their uh
  Catherine Gentles: Well
  Laura Mcdonald: For
  Maxine Canty: remote
  Laura Mcdonald: the remote
  Maxine Canty: control. It
  Laura Mcdonald: control.
  Maxine Canty: could be be Yeah, you never know, but
  Catherine Gentles: Why not?
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: More money for us.
  Maxine Canty: But it and
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: I think we have to make it quite big.
  Catherine Gentles: Quite big.
  Angelita Barnett: Yes,
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: you
  Angelita Barnett: definitely,
  Catherine Gentles: think?
  Angelita Barnett: definitely.
  Laura Mcdonald: That's
  Maxine Canty: people
  Laura Mcdonald: to be uh
  Maxine Canty: So,
  Laura Mcdonald: a
  Maxine Canty: and and
  Laura Mcdonald: formed
  Maxine Canty: also
  Laura Mcdonald: for
  Maxine Canty: because
  Laura Mcdonald: your hand.
  Maxine Canty: uh it is expensive. If you want it to be something, you know, it's ha doesn't have much functions want to be
  Angelita Barnett: Yes,
  Maxine Canty: you
  Angelita Barnett: it
  Maxine Canty: don't want to
  Angelita Barnett: it
  Maxine Canty: get
  Angelita Barnett: it
  Maxine Canty: it l
  Angelita Barnett: should be
  Maxine Canty: make
  Angelita Barnett: f
  Maxine Canty: it
  Angelita Barnett: be visible nearly anywhere in the room. As I uh as I said during my
  Maxine Canty: Mm-hmm.
  Angelita Barnett: presentation, fifty percent
  Maxine Canty: And
  Angelita Barnett: uh
  Maxine Canty: shou and should ni
  Angelita Barnett: o
  Maxine Canty: look nice when you put it on a table. I I think you m might wanna put it
  Catherine Gentles: A
  Maxine Canty: uh
  Catherine Gentles: standard or
  Maxine Canty: yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: something.
  Maxine Canty: that it it it it stands up.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, you have to put it on its So it's like a vase or uh something you put on a table.
  Angelita Barnett: A face? Or uh yeah,
  Maxine Canty: no
  Angelita Barnett: yeah.
  Maxine Canty: no,
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Laura Mcdonald: More
  Maxine Canty: put
  Laura Mcdonald: like
  Maxine Canty: stuff
  Laura Mcdonald: a joystick
  Maxine Canty: inside it. But,
  Laura Mcdonald: then.
  Maxine Canty: it's like like a statue or something
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, yeah, I see what you
  Catherine Gentles: It's
  Angelita Barnett: mean,
  Catherine Gentles: like you have
  Angelita Barnett: yep.
  Catherine Gentles: uh four phones.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah yeah, but
  Catherine Gentles: Something
  Maxine Canty: yeah, but you
  Catherine Gentles: like that.
  Maxine Canty: also can put it somewhere
  Angelita Barnett: If you do that, but
  Maxine Canty: near
  Angelita Barnett: I don't
  Maxine Canty: the window
  Angelita Barnett: know
  Maxine Canty: in
  Angelita Barnett: if that's possible
  Maxine Canty: That it's
  Angelita Barnett: within
  Maxine Canty: it's
  Angelita Barnett: the
  Maxine Canty: fashionable.
  Angelita Barnett: production cost of twelve and a half Euros.
  Maxine Canty: I I don't
  Angelita Barnett: I in in the base we could like make uh a button, and if you push it, the remote control itself s makes noise.
  Maxine Canty: Oh,
  Angelita Barnett: That's
  Maxine Canty: yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: probably stupid, but uh as I found here uh, fifty percent, was it fifty?
  Laura Mcdonald: But that's
  Angelita Barnett: Uh
  Laura Mcdonald: that's
  Angelita Barnett: fifty
  Laura Mcdonald: fun
  Angelita Barnett: percent
  Laura Mcdonald: for the first time, and then
  Angelita Barnett: fifty
  Laura Mcdonald: the second
  Angelita Barnett: percent often loses remote control.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but but when you when it gets lost, how can you press the button to make
  Angelita Barnett: No
  Maxine Canty: it
  Angelita Barnett: uh, of the base the the the
  Maxine Canty: Oh,
  Angelita Barnett: the
  Maxine Canty: okay.
  Angelita Barnett: the
  Catherine Gentles: On the television.
  Angelita Barnett: the the thing you put it in.
  Catherine Gentles: Oh, like
  Maxine Canty: Uh,
  Catherine Gentles: this.
  Maxine Canty: that's
  Angelita Barnett: If
  Maxine Canty: kind
  Angelita Barnett: an
  Maxine Canty: of nice.
  Angelita Barnett: a button in in that
  Laura Mcdonald: Or you
  Maxine Canty: And
  Angelita Barnett: uh
  Laura Mcdonald: can
  Maxine Canty: then also you don't even need batteries, because you can make it uh chargeable.
  Catherine Gentles: A char chargeable.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, you
  Laura Mcdonald: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: can
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: ma make rechargeable one, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Angelita Barnett: Why
  Maxine Canty: that
  Angelita Barnett: not.
  Maxine Canty: w yeah, but yeah, the pro No, well I think that it might
  Catherine Gentles: Why
  Maxine Canty: be
  Catherine Gentles: not.
  Maxine Canty: t p Well, nee but we don't Yeah. Maybe you, but we don't know much about production cost, but when you you can imagine that when you spend twenty five Euros on a remote control and it's a basic
  Laura Mcdonald: With recharger.
  Maxine Canty: remote control, then the then the money there must be money to spend on that kind of st you know, rechargeable
  Angelita Barnett: It should only
  Maxine Canty: units.
  Angelita Barnett: cost twelve and a half Euros, of course. Aye?
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but we would d ma
  Catherine Gentles: Production.
  Maxine Canty: we'd do it in Taiwan and So, it's not gonna be that expen
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, okay.
  Catherine Gentles: It should be
  Maxine Canty: Uh
  Catherine Gentles: possible.
  Maxine Canty: I I think it's a great idea.
  Catherine Gentles: a good idea.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: S some kind of be
  Catherine Gentles: To make
  Maxine Canty: I've
  Catherine Gentles: a
  Maxine Canty: never
  Catherine Gentles: base
  Maxine Canty: seen that
  Catherine Gentles: or
  Maxine Canty: before,
  Catherine Gentles: something?
  Maxine Canty: and you make it uh um be uh, you see it with uh the mo the mouses nowadays.
  Angelita Barnett: Yes. Yes, definitely. Yeah.
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes, but is that handy?
  Maxine Canty: Well, I well it's really ch you can recharge it, so you ha never have the battery
  Catherine Gentles: It's
  Maxine Canty: problem.
  Catherine Gentles: it's
  Maxine Canty: That's
  Catherine Gentles: it's
  Maxine Canty: one.
  Catherine Gentles: it's
  Maxine Canty: And uh you can always
  Laura Mcdonald: But
  Maxine Canty: find
  Catherine Gentles: it's not
  Maxine Canty: your
  Laura Mcdonald: but
  Catherine Gentles: the
  Maxine Canty: remote
  Catherine Gentles: purpose
  Maxine Canty: control
  Laura Mcdonald: remote
  Catherine Gentles: to
  Maxine Canty: up
  Catherine Gentles: be handy,
  Laura Mcdonald: controls
  Catherine Gentles: it's
  Laura Mcdonald: remote controls nowadays can can last uh two years, three years, with with t two batteries.
  Maxine Canty: Uh, okay. Well, maybe yeah, you could
  Laura Mcdonald: And
  Maxine Canty: when
  Laura Mcdonald: then
  Maxine Canty: that's
  Laura Mcdonald: you
  Maxine Canty: when it's too costly, you could probably skip the recharger, but you will you do need uh also an uh, also you would need a battery in the the base unit as well, you know. Does
  Laura Mcdonald: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: it makes
  Angelita Barnett: Well
  Maxine Canty: it kinda
  Angelita Barnett: y
  Laura Mcdonald: Or
  Angelita Barnett: you you could connect that to two hundred to twenty volts, of course.
  Catherine Gentles: Mm.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Angelita Barnett: I
  Maxine Canty: yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: don't know.
  Maxine Canty: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: but that's not it's ugly,
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but
  Catherine Gentles: I think.
  Maxine Canty: then it's very easy to make it also a rechargeab I don't think that is gonna cost much to make it also a recharge
  Catherine Gentles: No.
  Maxine Canty: function in it.
  Angelita Barnett: On the other hand, if you don't do it, we can also make a nice bay. I mean, it looks trendy and still still put a bleep function in it, but
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: um I think the bay is definitely uh
  Maxine Canty: I think it's a good idea. And make it, you know, we we um Well, we uh it's it isn't a t a most uh costly uh remote control. We can save on the on the functions. We just put some simple button in, make it big and sturdy, nothing more, and just make s sure there's some noise that it can make, or probably some kind of cheap light thing around it or that it uh that it lights
  Angelita Barnett: Sure,
  Maxine Canty: up,
  Angelita Barnett: why not.
  Maxine Canty: it's also
  Angelita Barnett: Yep.
  Maxine Canty: nice. And if you put it away, I think it's uh w
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: we have to we uh that's uh it's
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: not a easy market. We have to something special.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: And for twenty five
  Catherine Gentles: True.
  Maxine Canty: Euros people want something remote c special from your mote control,
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: and we
  Angelita Barnett: Definitely.
  Maxine Canty: can't deliver that in r with uh regards to the functions, because we aren't gonna
  Angelita Barnett: With eye
  Maxine Canty: put
  Angelita Barnett: candy, ear candy, whatever.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, definitely.
  Maxine Canty: And then uh when make it, you know, nice looking shape and this and then you also you got the stand-up thing. Yeah. I think
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: I think
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: it's a
  Catherine Gentles: it
  Maxine Canty: good
  Catherine Gentles: must
  Maxine Canty: idea.
  Catherine Gentles: be must be a gadget to have.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: Definitely, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Oh, if it let's well, we will see what's possible concerning the the costs, and if it's possible we'll do that.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: And we even try to save up on other stuff to make sure we can do such a thing. And the first thing we the most likeable thing to to n to skip is then probably the recharge function or something. If that's too expensive,
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: we won't
  Catherine Gentles: we
  Maxine Canty: do
  Catherine Gentles: c
  Maxine Canty: that. But it would be nice.
  Angelita Barnett: It would be nice,
  Maxine Canty: It's
  Angelita Barnett: yes.
  Maxine Canty: the idea. I know that batteries last long nowadays. And and what people just think about, well, I'll never have to buy any r batteries again, so y b because it's very annoying when your battery is empty. And you know then when you haven't batteries around, and probably for two weeks, your remo I've
  Angelita Barnett: Most televisions
  Maxine Canty: experienced that
  Angelita Barnett: break
  Maxine Canty: that
  Angelita Barnett: down before the battery pack is empty, so
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, okay.
  Angelita Barnett: yes.
  Maxine Canty: So, easy functions. Well, we will we will I think we'll work that out, zapping, numbers on it,
  Catherine Gentles: Or just
  Maxine Canty: bi
  Catherine Gentles: give a beep when the battery's out or uh down.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, why
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: not.
  Maxine Canty: But it's also annoying. 'cause as
  Angelita Barnett: Hmm.
  Maxine Canty: long as it stays as it ke keeps working, you're not
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: very motivated to do something about it.
  Catherine Gentles: true.
  Maxine Canty: Then
  Angelita Barnett: No,
  Maxine Canty: it
  Angelita Barnett: that's
  Maxine Canty: beeps
  Angelita Barnett: true.
  Maxine Canty: all the time and. You don't want to have ever have those problems, and you won't have if if you have the rechargeable. And you don't have to use the unit, you can also put it on the side if people don't like it. Uh,
  Angelita Barnett: Why
  Maxine Canty: i i in
  Angelita Barnett: not.
  Maxine Canty: the in
  Laura Mcdonald: But
  Maxine Canty: the ma
  Laura Mcdonald: you pay for it.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but it w I mean, if if they pay for it because they think, oh, that's a great idea, I'm gonna use it. And when it, you know, when time goes by and they think, well, I'll never put him in the recharger, I think last long enough, then they put it on side and they can use it now and then. Then when they look get m I I I know for sure that everybody who buys this remote control, within a couple of months of they will be in the situation that they they're seeking for the remote control, they wanna see something
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: quick and uh just push the button and th uh, I think
  Angelita Barnett: Bleep
  Maxine Canty: it's brilliant.
  Angelita Barnett: bleep bleep, oh there it is, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: I've never
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: it's so simple, but I've never seen it.
  Angelita Barnett: No.
  Catherine Gentles: And you can leave
  Angelita Barnett: Nearly.
  Maxine Canty: M
  Catherine Gentles: it just there.
  Maxine Canty: maybe we should really do this.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Okay now, well, how much time have we got left? These clocks aren't uh synched.
  Catherine Gentles: Yes.
  Maxine Canty: Oh, now I've put uh well, it is twenty p
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah, I'll
  Maxine Canty: Okay, so we have ten minutes or something?
  Angelita Barnett: Something like that, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but we're uh we're done.
  Catherine Gentles: Uh
  Maxine Canty: I
  Catherine Gentles: fifteen
  Maxine Canty: think.
  Catherine Gentles: minutes.
  Maxine Canty: We've decided on the functions. Well, there is some oh. There is a closing sheet. We have lunch break, and then we have thirty minutes of individual work.
  Angelita Barnett: Oh.
  Maxine Canty: Oh okay, I'll make sure I'll I had some problems with uh the digitising the the first minutes, the the s the next minutes won't be a problem, but I'll try to make sure the first one will be in the folder too, but maybe it won't work, but you'll see. I think these
  Angelita Barnett: We'll
  Maxine Canty: are
  Angelita Barnett: see.
  Maxine Canty: more important than the first ones, so
  Catherine Gentles: Can you make an uh uh a part of f folder for the minutes maybe? That not not
  Angelita Barnett: Maarten,
  Catherine Gentles: everything
  Angelita Barnett: five
  Catherine Gentles: in one
  Angelita Barnett: minutes.
  Catherine Gentles: one
  Maxine Canty: Oh,
  Catherine Gentles: uh
  Maxine Canty: five minutes.
  Catherine Gentles: folder.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, because uh I I d I did uh the first minutes I did were were were a bit scratchy, you know. Then I did a s second one with a nicer layout, which I could uh, know, use for the other ones well, but uh I d think uh I forgot to do put done under the first one, and when you go write
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: a second uh it's get it's not working when you try to write second
  Catherine Gentles: Maybe.
  Maxine Canty: uh paper
  Angelita Barnett: No, that's
  Maxine Canty: or
  Angelita Barnett: true
  Maxine Canty: something.
  Angelita Barnett: uh, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: And then you you had to overwrite it or someth I don't know. Becau I d uh, it was not my uh pen.
  Angelita Barnett: Should we by the way draw um
  Maxine Canty: this kind of
  Angelita Barnett: on
  Maxine Canty: looks
  Angelita Barnett: our nice
  Maxine Canty: you like.
  Angelita Barnett: whiteboard, um a little uh idea of
  Maxine Canty: Of the shape.
  Angelita Barnett: yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: Or the
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: sh
  Maxine Canty: probably,
  Angelita Barnett: I
  Maxine Canty: it
  Angelita Barnett: dunno.
  Maxine Canty: would be nice.
  Angelita Barnett: Has anyone got um
  Catherine Gentles: Do you get
  Angelita Barnett: a
  Catherine Gentles: an idea
  Angelita Barnett: little
  Catherine Gentles: of
  Angelita Barnett: bit
  Catherine Gentles: the shape?
  Angelita Barnett: detailed ideas about the shape? I don't,
  Laura Mcdonald: Maybe like
  Angelita Barnett: for one.
  Laura Mcdonald: this pen.
  Angelita Barnett: A bit bigger I guess,
  Maxine Canty: No,
  Angelita Barnett: but
  Maxine Canty: bigger.
  Catherine Gentles: A little bit bigger, yeah but
  Angelita Barnett: The shape is nice, it's um something different, and
  Laura Mcdonald: It
  Angelita Barnett: we
  Laura Mcdonald: has
  Angelita Barnett: want
  Laura Mcdonald: to feel
  Angelita Barnett: we
  Laura Mcdonald: nice
  Angelita Barnett: want
  Maxine Canty: Well,
  Angelita Barnett: that.
  Laura Mcdonald: in
  Maxine Canty: I
  Laura Mcdonald: your hand.
  Maxine Canty: I
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: I have to say, I have this uh can opening remote control in my head most of all, or I think some maybe we should no, that will be too
  Catherine Gentles: Oh, uh
  Maxine Canty: costly.
  Catherine Gentles: look uh look
  Maxine Canty: We shou
  Catherine Gentles: at
  Maxine Canty: we
  Catherine Gentles: the
  Maxine Canty: could
  Catherine Gentles: pictures.
  Maxine Canty: also, that was a would also be an idea, but I don't think it I don't know if it exists already, you should like make Alessi or something design it.
  Angelita Barnett: Okay, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: That would also be nice. But that's
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: gonna
  Angelita Barnett: but
  Maxine Canty: then you c then you
  Angelita Barnett: twelve
  Maxine Canty: don't
  Angelita Barnett: and a half Euros? Uh
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but then you don't have t yeah it that's not something i that's in the production cost a one it's a one time, you know s was it's a single cost.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, m but but then you can nah, I don't thin I think that it would be more expensive, because I've bought the Alessi stuff more often and even small pencil holders or something are more expensive.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, that's true.
  Maxine Canty: Would be a nice idea though. I don't know. I think it uh has to be a r it has to have round forms or something. Like something like that or so or so
  Angelita Barnett: Something like that is very ergonomic.
  Maxine Canty: And on th and then uh
  Angelita Barnett: So
  Maxine Canty: s a base unit underneath it. It's also round. Put it in there uh wire on it. Maybe
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: uh, I don't know, some some lights, a big but well.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah, flash lights at the
  Maxine Canty: Volume and
  Catherine Gentles: side.
  Maxine Canty: programme,
  Catherine Gentles: At
  Maxine Canty: yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: the side,
  Angelita Barnett: Yes,
  Catherine Gentles: or something
  Angelita Barnett: volume and
  Catherine Gentles: like
  Angelita Barnett: programme
  Catherine Gentles: that.
  Angelita Barnett: should be there I guess, because you
  Maxine Canty: And
  Angelita Barnett: hands
  Maxine Canty: some
  Angelita Barnett: wi
  Maxine Canty: of the
  Angelita Barnett: uh y
  Maxine Canty: extra
  Angelita Barnett: your
  Maxine Canty: funct
  Angelita Barnett: hands will be in the smaller part.
  Maxine Canty: Some of the
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: extra functions over here.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah, and
  Maxine Canty: Numbers.
  Angelita Barnett: the numbers on top,
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: I guess.
  Maxine Canty: And and lights? How we're g well, maybe uh s a ring of no, no, you have to Maybe on the side
  Angelita Barnett: Maybe
  Maxine Canty: of it.
  Angelita Barnett: ro roun rounds uh
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Angelita Barnett: uh
  Catherine Gentles: side
  Angelita Barnett: l
  Catherine Gentles: of
  Angelita Barnett: sorry.
  Catherine Gentles: it.
  Maxine Canty: Along
  Catherine Gentles: Just
  Maxine Canty: the side
  Catherine Gentles: two LEDs
  Maxine Canty: uh strip
  Catherine Gentles: or something
  Maxine Canty: of yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: on the side.
  Angelita Barnett: Maybe lights
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: also around the volume and the p the plus minus programme buttons.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, but I also meant the
  Angelita Barnett: Oh.
  Maxine Canty: the blinking li w you know, the ones that also blink when you try to uh uh locate your remote.
  Angelita Barnett: Okay.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Well,
  Catherine Gentles: Well, uh
  Maxine Canty: theys have
  Catherine Gentles: probably
  Maxine Canty: to be
  Catherine Gentles: at the side. You know look
  Maxine Canty: Yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: at the front,
  Maxine Canty: Yeah,
  Catherine Gentles: but
  Maxine Canty: yeah. Exactly. When you you see it from the side, then it would look just like that.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: And
  Catherine Gentles: exactly,
  Maxine Canty: then you have
  Catherine Gentles: and then there is yeah.
  Maxine Canty: a strip of uh lights or
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah,
  Maxine Canty: something.
  Angelita Barnett: Okay, yeah.
  Catherine Gentles: something like that, yeah.
  Maxine Canty: Well, uh I think it's nice, for one thing. maybe put something on top of it or, you know, like that's
  Catherine Gentles: No.
  Maxine Canty: looks funny. I don't know.
  Catherine Gentles: No.
  Maxine Canty: Or some
  Angelita Barnett: I
  Maxine Canty: bump.
  Angelita Barnett: think I think
  Maxine Canty: Maybe
  Angelita Barnett: that'll
  Maxine Canty: some
  Angelita Barnett: be too big tha
  Maxine Canty: Yeah?
  Angelita Barnett: too big then.
  Catherine Gentles: Bumper or something.
  Maxine Canty: We'll have to think about it. I think we're
  Angelita Barnett: Yeah.
  Maxine Canty: we're done.
  Catherine Gentles: Yeah.
  Angelita Barnett: Yes, we are.
  Maxine Canty: We can
  Catherine Gentles: Lunch
  Maxine Canty: save
  Catherine Gentles: break.
  Angelita Barnett: Alright.
  Maxine Canty: this one.
  Angelita Barnett: Yes, I guess it's lunch time.
  Catherine Gentles: Okay then.
  Maxine Canty: Mm mm.
  Angelita Barnett: I don't know. Half and hour? I thought
  Catherine Gentles: Okay,
  Angelita Barnett: our
  Catherine Gentles: five
  Angelita Barnett: next uh
  Catherine Gentles: uh
  Angelita Barnett: next individual round was half an hour.
  Maxine Canty: Yeah, that was what
  Angelita Barnett: I don't
  Maxine Canty: uh
  Angelita Barnett: know about the lunch break.
  Maxine Canty: Mm, we'll hear about it.
  Angelita Barnett: Well
  Catherine Gentles: Oh.
Updated Content: Maxine Canty opened the meeting. Laura Mcdonald reported on working design, explaining how a remote control works and describing its main components. Catherine Gentles talked about what functions should be included. He suggested they should focus on either expert or novice users. The basic functions should include an on/off switch, buttons for channels one to nine, volume, mute and buttons for next and previous channel. He suggested that a trendy design should not have many buttons. Angelita Barnett reported on user requirements, including how users rated the importance of different features. He stressed that a trendy design is important, that users zap a lot, and that remotes often get lost. Maxine Canty informed the group of new requirements. The remote is only for TV, should not include a teletext feature, and should feature the company colour and slogan. The group discussed what functions and features the remote should have, and whether to include DVD/VCR controls, a teletext button, stop button, changeable covers, and a base/recharger with locator function. The group also discussed making the remote a rounded, ergonomic shape, and using flashing lights to help locate it when lost.