Extracted Content: Marie Vargas: Okay? Good afternoon. Hope
  Mary Harris: Afternoon.
  Marie Vargas: you have
  Autumn Brown: Hi.
  Marie Vargas: good lunch.
  Mary Harris: Yeah, we had falafel.
  Marie Vargas: Oh. Nice. And you?
  Autumn Brown: Uh, yes, I had something similar non-vegetarian.
  Marie Vargas: Okay. So today is um our third meeting. It will be about the conceptual design uh. If I come back to uh the minutes of the last meetings um. We decided not to go for speech recognition technologies because of some reasons and we are not decided about u the use of L_C_D_ screen on on the remote control because of costs. So maybe we wi be to clarify this question to today. Uh at the end of the meeting we should take decision on that point. So I hope uh that your respective pr presentations uh will help us. So each of you have some presentatio presentation to perform um who starts?
  Sue Dann: Okay,
  Marie Vargas: So marketing. So you are you saved your y your presentation somewhere?
  Sue Dann: Yep.
  Marie Vargas: So you're four?
  Sue Dann: Four yeah,
  Marie Vargas: Which is trend watch. Okay. Mr Marketing Experts.
  Sue Dann: Yeah that's Sue Dann.
  Marie Vargas: So
  Sue Dann: Uh. Well I investigate the preference more d I investigate deeper the preference of the users. Uh so the the current investigation th uh th uh sorry the current the n current trends?
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: Yeah?
  Marie Vargas: Mm-hmm.
  Sue Dann: Okay. Okay. Well wha what I found um can you
  Marie Vargas: Next slide?
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: Thank you. What I found in order of importance from less to more important is that people want an easy to use device. After they they want something new technologic technologically speaking, but the most what they what they find more more interesting, more or more important it's uh a fancy look and feel instead of uh instead of the current the current trend which was f the functional look and feel. So now more more cool aspect, ma more a cooler aspect uh rather than a device with many functions and many buttons with instead of i instead of ha of a device which can do many things, a device which is pleasant to to watch, to see.
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Sue Dann: Uh also Well in in Euro in in Paris and and Milan the in Paris and in Paris and Milan the the current trend of uh of clothes, furniture and all this all this fashion it's it's fruit and the the the theme is fruit and vegetables.
  Marie Vargas: Mm.
  Sue Dann: And also in the in the U_S_A_ the the current the mor the most popular feeling it's it's a spongy. Spongy means eponge?
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Sue Dann: So maybe we should we should think in in this direction, so
  Autumn Brown: What what do you mean by fruit and vegetables and spongy? What
  Mary Harris: Spongy
  Autumn Brown: you mean
  Mary Harris: means
  Autumn Brown: clothe
  Mary Harris: it it's like
  Sue Dann: Fruit
  Mary Harris: sp
  Sue Dann: vegetables is the the new have you seen the last exposition of clothes in Milan?
  Autumn Brown: No, I missed that one.
  Sue Dann: Yeah, I I didn't miss an I didn't miss and I saw that the fruit, there are many fr pictures of fruits and vegetables in the
  Autumn Brown: Oh,
  Sue Dann: clothes.
  Autumn Brown: they're okay so they're not like dressed as a carrot they just have
  Sue Dann: No no,
  Autumn Brown: like
  Sue Dann: not not yet, not
  Autumn Brown: pictures
  Sue Dann: yet.
  Autumn Brown: of fruit on,
  Sue Dann: Yeah,
  Autumn Brown: okay.
  Sue Dann: yeah.
  Autumn Brown: So
  Sue Dann: So
  Autumn Brown: we're not gonna
  Sue Dann: te
  Autumn Brown: have a remote
  Sue Dann: textu
  Autumn Brown: control
  Sue Dann: textures,
  Autumn Brown: in the shape of
  Sue Dann: yeah.
  Autumn Brown: of a banana, just
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: maybe
  Sue Dann: Vegetable textures and all this kind.
  Marie Vargas: Drawings of bananas.
  Sue Dann: Uh
  Autumn Brown: Okay and
  Marie Vargas: Uh-huh.
  Sue Dann: yeah, yeah.
  Mary Harris: But what's your suggestion how we can have some shape like that on the
  Marie Vargas: Well
  Mary Harris: remote?
  Marie Vargas: so this is in the next slide certainly.
  Sue Dann: Uh no no, it's not.
  Marie Vargas: It's not?
  Sue Dann: It's And
  Autumn Brown: which fruit are you thinking of
  Sue Dann: Um. I ha I haven't thought of any particular fruit, but the general aspect of the of the remote control may may could remind some kind of vegetable, some kind of instead of vegetable, some natur mm uh natural object or something.
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Sue Dann: But yeah it it
  Marie Vargas: So maybe
  Sue Dann: depends
  Marie Vargas: you
  Sue Dann: on
  Marie Vargas: maybe
  Sue Dann: the
  Marie Vargas: you can display a banana on the L_C_D_.
  Autumn Brown: Oh, so you want the remote control to be the shape of a fruit, or you want just some kind of like fruit logo on the
  Mary Harris: Means buttons are
  Sue Dann: Yeah
  Mary Harris: in the
  Sue Dann: maybe
  Mary Harris: shape
  Sue Dann: the
  Mary Harris: of
  Sue Dann: shape
  Mary Harris: fruits,
  Sue Dann: the shape
  Mary Harris: buttons are in the frape shape of fruits or something, apple, banana, something like that.
  Sue Dann: No, not n
  Marie Vargas: Apple for
  Sue Dann: not
  Marie Vargas: channel
  Sue Dann: not too
  Marie Vargas: one.
  Sue Dann: much focus, not too much focu not n not too s not too similar to a fruit because
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Sue Dann: next year the ten the trend the trend will be different.
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Sue Dann: So we shouldn't be at re really attached to to the
  Autumn Brown: So
  Sue Dann: trend
  Autumn Brown: something
  Sue Dann: but
  Autumn Brown: that looks half like a fruit and half like an elephant.
  Sue Dann: For instance, yeah. African or as an elephant?
  Mary Harris: That we can discuss afterwards.
  Autumn Brown: But okay, I'm
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Autumn Brown: not, I'm not really sure if uh that would really appeal to everyone though, maybe just to fashion gurus, like maybe just like a little bit n a little fruit picture somewhere in the corner, but I don't know about uh I dunno how ergonomic
  Sue Dann: Well
  Autumn Brown: a,
  Sue Dann: ma
  Autumn Brown: an
  Sue Dann: maybe
  Autumn Brown: orange is.
  Sue Dann: we we should further specify what target are we focusing. I think in my opinion we should focus on on young people because they are more open to new
  Autumn Brown: To fruit?
  Sue Dann: devi new devices and also yeah according to the marketing report ninety p ninety five percent of young people was was was able to to buy a a n a cooler remote control.
  Autumn Brown: But is it uh is fruit cool?
  Sue Dann: What?
  Marie Vargas: That's a question.
  Sue Dann: What?
  Autumn Brown: Is fruit cool?
  Sue Dann: Yeah? Uh Is the new trend of the
  Autumn Brown: Well I guess, you know, Apple has the iPod so, imagi just 'cause they have an apple on their on their product, doesn't mean fruit is cool.
  Sue Dann: No I think we we should think about a a shape with it a device with a shape of some
  Autumn Brown: Okay, but it has to be easy to uh to use though and to hold you know, you don't wanna pear or a
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: watermelon.
  Sue Dann: Don don't you think we can find uh the shape of a fruit which is handy
  Autumn Brown: Well,
  Sue Dann: to
  Autumn Brown: probably
  Sue Dann: use?
  Autumn Brown: the only thing is a banana
  Mary Harris: Banana.
  Autumn Brown: that I can think of, a cucumber.
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: I
  Sue Dann: Or
  Autumn Brown: dunno.
  Sue Dann: m
  Marie Vargas: Maybe too long.
  Autumn Brown: Maybe. Too green.
  Sue Dann: Maybe.
  Autumn Brown: So, but
  Marie Vargas: A
  Autumn Brown: I mean you
  Marie Vargas: banana.
  Autumn Brown: also have to you have to also
  Sue Dann: Um
  Autumn Brown: have, fit r all the buttons and you know. It's, it
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: The thing is you have t normally with um with buttons, they have to be at some point attached to a circuit board so if you're gonna have things like on a cylindrical kind of device it may be difficult to kind of to build.
  Mary Harris: I don't th it will
  Sue Dann: Yeah
  Mary Harris: be
  Sue Dann: but
  Mary Harris: rolling
  Sue Dann: I li
  Mary Harris: a lot.
  Sue Dann: I like your idea
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Sue Dann: that we shouldn't have a lot of buttons
  Marie Vargas: Yeah
  Sue Dann: b
  Marie Vargas: and
  Sue Dann: buttons
  Marie Vargas: you you
  Sue Dann: so
  Marie Vargas: you will not have pla enough a lot of place to put a L_C_D_ on a banana also.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: Uh do you want a an L_C_D_ with twenty five Euros?
  Marie Vargas: Well,
  Autumn Brown: Well,
  Marie Vargas: you're
  Autumn Brown: this
  Marie Vargas: the
  Autumn Brown: is
  Marie Vargas: Marketing Expert you should tell us if it
  Sue Dann: I
  Marie Vargas: is too much
  Sue Dann: think
  Marie Vargas: or not.
  Sue Dann: Well, according to the to the report people are more interested in in a fa fancy look and feel and in a technological inno in innovation, so,
  Marie Vargas: So
  Sue Dann: I will give more importance to the look and feel than rather than the
  Marie Vargas: So you you
  Sue Dann: new
  Marie Vargas: you suggest
  Sue Dann: inputs
  Marie Vargas: to go
  Sue Dann: and also
  Marie Vargas: f
  Sue Dann: it's I'm not convinced about this L_C_D_ because you need uh internet connection, you need more things, it's not just buying a new control re
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Sue Dann: remote, you need buying control remote, buying uh more
  Marie Vargas: S
  Sue Dann: things.
  Marie Vargas: so
  Sue Dann: It's
  Marie Vargas: you're simply
  Sue Dann: not so simple.
  Marie Vargas: you're simply looking s to a remote control that looks like a banana with
  Sue Dann: For instance,
  Marie Vargas: few buttons
  Sue Dann: yeah.
  Marie Vargas: with
  Sue Dann: Yeah
  Marie Vargas: only
  Sue Dann: for
  Marie Vargas: a few
  Sue Dann: for
  Marie Vargas: buttons.
  Sue Dann: for given an an example yeah.
  Marie Vargas: Okay good. So maybe you can go ahead?
  Sue Dann: Yeah no, it's what I already said.
  Marie Vargas: Okay. Thanks. Um. Okay, I'll give the floor. So you are User Interface guy.
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: So you're three?
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: And it's this one.
  Autumn Brown: Yep.
  Marie Vargas: Go for it.
  Autumn Brown: Yep. Okay. So. S next uh slide. Okay. So I received an email um around lunchtime letting Sue Dann know that the brilliant minds at our technology division had developed an integrated programmable sample sensor sample speaker unit, um which is a way for you to have a conversation with your coffee machine and or remote control.
  Mary Harris: But it's just a
  Autumn Brown: It's no, what it is, it's
  Mary Harris: It's
  Autumn Brown: it's
  Mary Harris: not a
  Autumn Brown: very
  Mary Harris: microphone.
  Autumn Brown: It has a has a microphone, has a speaker, it's got a little chip and
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: it allows you
  Mary Harris: Actually
  Autumn Brown: t
  Mary Harris: I'm not reading microphone there, so that's why you can all have conversation,
  Autumn Brown: Well, it's
  Mary Harris: it
  Autumn Brown: a sample
  Mary Harris: just to speak to you.
  Autumn Brown: sensor sample speaker. Sample sensor sample speaker. It means
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: that it can recognize, it can do like a match on a on a certain phrase that you speak
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: and then can play back a
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: phrase in response to that.
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: But uh there's no kind of um understanding of the phrase.
  Mary Harris: Okay.
  Autumn Brown: So, I mean, you know, I guess you could build that in, you could you could link the the recognition of a certain phrase to some function on on
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm,
  Autumn Brown: the remote
  Mary Harris: mm-hmm,
  Autumn Brown: control.
  Mary Harris: mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: But basically the thing is, we have this technology available
  Mary Harris: In-house.
  Autumn Brown: in-house. So,
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: um but the thing is obviously there's still gonna be a cost if you
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm,
  Autumn Brown: decided to integrate that because
  Mary Harris: mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: you still have to pay for the c production of the components, so um it it but it basically means we c we can kind of consider this from uh you know uh a theoretical or usability kind of viewpoint without worrying too much about you know how to develop it because we have this already done.
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: Whilst you know, some people might get annoyed if we uh if we just dump it,
  Marie Vargas: I there's something that I unclear really understanding. Is this a technology that recognize keywords speech keywords?
  Autumn Brown: It's it it's no, well, it's it'll recognize uh I guess keywords, but you know keywords in a certain order like a phrase. You train it for a certain uh, for a certain phrase, you say the the example they said that they have uh up and running with their prototype is um well they've actually integrated into the into the the coffee machine that uh that we're producing is, you can say good morning to the coffee machine and it can recognize that phrase and it'll playback good morning,
  Marie Vargas: And
  Autumn Brown: how
  Marie Vargas: it's
  Autumn Brown: would
  Marie Vargas: just
  Autumn Brown: you like
  Marie Vargas: to,
  Autumn Brown: your coffee?
  Marie Vargas: it's just to playback something?
  Autumn Brown: Yeah. So actually that was a bad example, 'cause it doesn't actually ask how do you want your coffee because it can't really understand the response,
  Marie Vargas: Yeah
  Autumn Brown: so.
  Marie Vargas: yeah. So this is not s really to do to to do control.
  Autumn Brown: Only, like, only in the sense that it it can recognize a set
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: a set target
  Marie Vargas: This
  Autumn Brown: kind
  Marie Vargas: is just
  Autumn Brown: of word
  Marie Vargas: more
  Autumn Brown: an
  Marie Vargas: like a poi
  Autumn Brown: It's designed
  Marie Vargas: pois
  Autumn Brown: it's
  Marie Vargas: yeah.
  Autumn Brown: designed as a fun kind of thing,
  Marie Vargas: Yeah
  Autumn Brown: but I guess
  Marie Vargas: yeah.
  Autumn Brown: you could use it as uh as a way to implement uh
  Marie Vargas: So
  Sue Dann: Yeah but
  Marie Vargas: it it's c uh it it it
  Sue Dann: you
  Marie Vargas: is
  Sue Dann: can
  Marie Vargas: a
  Sue Dann: u
  Marie Vargas: uh uh easy uh a fancy thing that you you can bring to we can bring to the remote control that will not have any
  Autumn Brown: Completely
  Marie Vargas: uh
  Autumn Brown: pointless yeah.
  Marie Vargas: yeah comp completely pointless
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: for the inter for from the interaction point of v point of view.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, unless you know, you like having conversation with your remote control.
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Sue Dann: Yeah but the can we use it for saying okay, channel fifty,
  Autumn Brown: Well
  Sue Dann: channel
  Autumn Brown: yeah, that's the
  Sue Dann: twenty?
  Autumn Brown: thing, if you can but you have to pro though I think it's a fairly simple design so you would have to record into the device every possible combination, you have to s tr train it to l to learn channel fifteen, that whole thing, not just the word channel and the
  Marie Vargas: Yeah
  Autumn Brown: word fifteen, it doesn't
  Marie Vargas: yeah.
  Autumn Brown: have that
  Marie Vargas: So
  Autumn Brown: kind of logic
  Marie Vargas: this is
  Autumn Brown: in it.
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Marie Vargas: so this
  Autumn Brown: So
  Marie Vargas: is this is much more than tak taking this technology, bringing it to the remote control and using it. So this is out of discussion.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: So if if if it is something that you can we can bring easily and to put it into the banana remote control
  Sue Dann: M Mando.
  Autumn Brown: Banana-mando.
  Marie Vargas: No this is mm banana-bando,
  Sue Dann: Banana-mando
  Autumn Brown: Banana-man
  Sue Dann: yeah.
  Marie Vargas: yeah. Uh then it could be cool yeah.
  Mary Harris: Yeah okay, let's go ahead.
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Autumn Brown: I uh I I I don't think it's worth it though, I think it doesn't really add much to the functional design and it's it's it's not mature enough to use as a speech recognition engine,
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Autumn Brown: so Um, yeah. So if we can just move on to the next slide, I've just done a quick mock-up of uh uh some of the features of our potential funky-looking uh
  Marie Vargas: It doesn't
  Autumn Brown: remote
  Marie Vargas: look like
  Autumn Brown: control
  Marie Vargas: a banana at all.
  Autumn Brown: Well, you see, I was I was unaware at this point of th of the fruit focus,
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: um, so
  Marie Vargas: But
  Autumn Brown: at the
  Marie Vargas: you
  Autumn Brown: moment
  Sue Dann: Looks
  Autumn Brown: it's more
  Sue Dann: like
  Marie Vargas: you
  Sue Dann: a
  Autumn Brown: of
  Marie Vargas: can
  Sue Dann: tr
  Autumn Brown: a
  Marie Vargas: fit
  Autumn Brown: box
  Marie Vargas: i
  Autumn Brown: focus.
  Sue Dann: look likes
  Marie Vargas: you're saying
  Sue Dann: a
  Marie Vargas: now you can
  Sue Dann: a tro
  Marie Vargas: fit
  Sue Dann: a
  Marie Vargas: it
  Sue Dann: tropical
  Marie Vargas: to
  Sue Dann: fruit.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, well, this is actu this could be a genetically engineered fruit that's designed to be you know square so that it packs tighter in the boxes. But um, I've just indicated here, we could have actually two scroll wheels, 'cause I think the scroll wheel is a fairly um
  Mary Harris: Stable
  Autumn Brown: key part
  Mary Harris: thing, that's
  Autumn Brown: of,
  Mary Harris: right.
  Autumn Brown: you know, I think
  Mary Harris: To
  Autumn Brown: everyone
  Mary Harris: have,
  Autumn Brown: has has agreed that it's that it could
  Mary Harris: mm-hmm,
  Autumn Brown: be quite a useful um
  Mary Harris: mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: thing, so. But I think it's important, you know, to have two scroll wheels because, you know, you want one for for the channel, but you also want one for for the volume,
  Marie Vargas: Mm.
  Autumn Brown: because it's it's the volume i it's, you know it's very handy for it to have uh instant kind
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm,
  Autumn Brown: of uh feedback
  Mary Harris: mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: uh and response, so. But um, I've also included this turbo button because I think, you know, every design should have a turbo button,
  Sue Dann: What's a turbo
  Autumn Brown: and
  Sue Dann: button?
  Autumn Brown: well so this is you know, a unique problem with with televisions is that if you have this scro this scroll wheel for the television, the uh the tuner on the T_V_ is not gonna be able to to switch between stations as fast as you can scroll, so you know, the th the person might want to have a uh Might want to be able to scroll past television stations without seeing what's on them, in which case it just waits until you stop scrolling and then, you know, displays that station. Or they might want to scroll and and have a quick glimpse of it, even if it lags behind what they're doing.
  Sue Dann: It con it controls the speed?
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, so with this turbo button you can, say, skip over t channels if uh, you know, if I'm if I'm going if I'm scrolling past them and you know, it's um, you could have a little red light that comes up when they press it so they feel you know it's really going fast or whatever. So yeah, that's um, those are the two important uh features I think
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: we need on the remote, but I mean we can discuss about what other kind of buttons we need, um. You know, i it could be, you know, if we if we wanna have like a very cheap kind of device, I mean, we could either consider that maybe we want to sell this as a very, if it's gonna be a banana, you know that's a pretty gimmicky kind of thing that doesn't have that much functionality, it's just you know a couple of scroll wheels and a button cause it's hard to get so many buttons on a
  Marie Vargas: It's enough.
  Autumn Brown: banana and it's still very it may even be for most for some people more functional than their current remote, but if they have these scroll wheels, so, um you know, what other buttons do we want?
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: I mean we could have well, I guess you need an on and off
  Marie Vargas: Switch
  Autumn Brown: switch,
  Marie Vargas: on.
  Autumn Brown: but you could
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: you could o you could turn it turn it on by taking the top off the banana maybe, you know, it's kind of
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: like a spy
  Sue Dann: So
  Autumn Brown: kind of flick thing.
  Sue Dann: sounds crazy. I like crazy ideas.
  Autumn Brown: That's why you're a marketing
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Sue Dann: Yeah,
  Autumn Brown: guru.
  Marie Vargas: So
  Sue Dann: of course.
  Marie Vargas: i it looks like we're going completely to forget about the L_C_D_ thing.
  Autumn Brown: Well, that's the thing, as have we decided that we can only spend, uh, twenty five Euro?
  Marie Vargas: I think
  Autumn Brown: Well not spend,
  Marie Vargas: that
  Autumn Brown: but you know, charge twenty five Euro.
  Sue Dann: I I think we could use somehow the s coffee machine dialogue interface or so.
  Marie Vargas: No we can we can't use that.
  Sue Dann: You we can?
  Marie Vargas: We
  Sue Dann: We
  Marie Vargas: can't
  Sue Dann: can't.
  Marie Vargas: use that to
  Mary Harris: Communicate.
  Marie Vargas: to comman co communicate, it's just
  Sue Dann: Yeah,
  Marie Vargas: a
  Sue Dann: but
  Marie Vargas: thing
  Sue Dann: we can say
  Mary Harris: It's one
  Sue Dann: channel
  Mary Harris: way.
  Sue Dann: twenty five.
  Marie Vargas: No.
  Sue Dann: No?
  Autumn Brown: But then you have to have a template for every channel, for a hundred channels, you have to be able to to recognize
  Sue Dann: It's
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Sue Dann: not a lot one
  Autumn Brown: Mm.
  Sue Dann: hundred templates, it's
  Autumn Brown: Well,
  Sue Dann: not
  Autumn Brown: I f I think it's probably more than, than our can handle because
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: it's designed for a coffee machine, you know, to say hello in the morning.
  Sue Dann: Ah, it's designed for a cof okay. Is it design for a coffee machine?
  Autumn Brown: Well that's its current application, I would presume
  Sue Dann: Okay.
  Autumn Brown: that it's kind of, they wouldn't design it to handle a hundred things
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: th so.
  Sue Dann: Maybe you could ask your the you could ask the engineering department
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: if
  Marie Vargas: A
  Sue Dann: we
  Marie Vargas: good
  Sue Dann: can
  Marie Vargas: good good
  Autumn Brown: But
  Marie Vargas: thing. You
  Autumn Brown: uh
  Marie Vargas: want to g to move
  Mary Harris: Yeah,
  Marie Vargas: to your
  Mary Harris: that's right,
  Marie Vargas: slides?
  Mary Harris: yeah.
  Marie Vargas: You're finished?
  Autumn Brown: Well I just I just made the point, I don't I don't know if that speech recognition is, you know, even if we can do it, I think it's not really appropriate for uh
  Marie Vargas: Yeah I think so.
  Autumn Brown: television environment. But um I did have one thing from a previous meeting, you were talking about um
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: being able to find the remote control and I was talking about extendin being able to extend the remote control by having you know, a base station that can control other things as well.
  Marie Vargas: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: It might be useful to have some kind of base station, even if it's just you press on a button on it and uh and the remote control starts beeping, you know, this is a way of finding the remote. Y in that
  Marie Vargas: Mm.
  Autumn Brown: case maybe the maybe the speech recognition the speech thing could be useful just to say
  Marie Vargas: Exactly yeah.
  Autumn Brown: I'm here but uh it's probably a bit of overkill if you could just have a
  Mary Harris: So it's a
  Autumn Brown: a
  Mary Harris: speech
  Autumn Brown: beeping
  Mary Harris: synthesis kind of thing, something has
  Autumn Brown: It's
  Mary Harris: been uh stored
  Autumn Brown: speech
  Mary Harris: and it's just uh spoken out.
  Autumn Brown: It's it's speech synthesis and s
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: it's speech kind of, not really speech recognition, but
  Mary Harris: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: kind of pattern
  Mary Harris: That's right.
  Autumn Brown: matching, yeah
  Marie Vargas: Oh, good idea.
  Autumn Brown: yeah.
  Marie Vargas: Very good. Okay, let's move on. So you're two?
  Mary Harris: That's right.
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Mary Harris: So this is going to be about the component design.
  Marie Vargas: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Harris: So first thing is we need power source for the remote control. So I was of the idea that we can have two kind of power supplies, one is the usual batteries which are there, they could be chargeable batteries if there's a basis station kind of thing and on top of that we can have solar cells, when the lighting conditions are good they can be used so it'll be pretty uh innovative kind. Then uh we need plastic with some elasticity so that if your if the remote control falls it's not broken directly into pieces, there should be some flexibility in t
  Autumn Brown: I guess that fits in with the spongy kind of design philosophy.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Mary Harris: Yeah. So there should we should think of something like that and then it should be double curve. The s science for the ease of handling and there are some other issues why we need double curve. Then controls for the traditionals u traditional users we can have the push buttons so that they don't feel that it's an alien thing for them.
  Autumn Brown: So, just one second, when you say double curve, what do you actually mean? You reckon you could like draw us a thing on the, on the whiteboard
  Mary Harris: Double
  Autumn Brown: 'cause I'm
  Mary Harris: curve
  Autumn Brown: not sure
  Mary Harris: is, you have curves on both the sides if I'm right. So it's symmetrical kind of thing, whatever it is.
  Autumn Brown: Okay, but like,
  Mary Harris: So,
  Autumn Brown: kind of convex
  Mary Harris: it could
  Autumn Brown: or concave?
  Mary Harris: be curve, so it could be convex, conve concave, depending on
  Autumn Brown: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Harris: what what we want.
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Mary Harris: So there are flats, there are single curve and there are double curves.
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Mary Harris: These are the three things, and there are different materials, with plastic you can have double curve but with uh certain other materials we cannot have double curve. So there there was uh there were many other materials like wood, titanium and all those things, but plastic is I think is the most appropriate one,
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Mary Harris: it'll bring the cost down and anyway it's
  Autumn Brown: Although, you know, wood could be uh quite a stylish uh option, if you take like, nice quality kind of wood that's got a nice grain and you
  Marie Vargas: Mm
  Autumn Brown: kind of put
  Marie Vargas: but
  Autumn Brown: some,
  Marie Vargas: i
  Autumn Brown: some
  Marie Vargas: but
  Autumn Brown: varnish
  Marie Vargas: there is
  Autumn Brown: on.
  Marie Vargas: no elasticity which
  Mary Harris: Wooden
  Marie Vargas: could
  Mary Harris: cases
  Marie Vargas: be
  Autumn Brown: Well it depends, I mean, you have the outs the wood itself is not gonna break so you don't have to worry too much about the case being
  Marie Vargas: Yeah
  Autumn Brown: broken,
  Marie Vargas: but the
  Autumn Brown: it's
  Marie Vargas: components
  Autumn Brown: the inside.
  Marie Vargas: inside.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah but inside you know you could have you can still have some kind of cushioning that's
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: not visible to the to the user.
  Marie Vargas: Very
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Marie Vargas: too expensive to do.
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: And I mean you
  Marie Vargas: And
  Autumn Brown: could
  Marie Vargas: also
  Autumn Brown: also,
  Marie Vargas: uh
  Autumn Brown: you can have just a very thin veneer of wood as well.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah but it's more easier to do a banana in plastic than uh in wood.
  Autumn Brown: That's true, but are we set on the banana idea?
  Sue Dann: Actually
  Marie Vargas: Well it look like it
  Sue Dann: I was
  Marie Vargas: looks
  Sue Dann: thinking
  Marie Vargas: like you
  Sue Dann: that
  Marie Vargas: are all
  Sue Dann: the
  Marie Vargas: targeting that yeah?
  Sue Dann: the shape of a banana is not it's not really handy.
  Marie Vargas: Yes it is.
  Sue Dann: Uh I don't know the name o o in English uh
  Mary Harris: Is it
  Sue Dann: This
  Mary Harris: an e
  Sue Dann: it's
  Mary Harris: apple
  Sue Dann: not a
  Mary Harris: which
  Sue Dann: fruit
  Mary Harris: has
  Sue Dann: it's a vegetable.
  Autumn Brown: It's like a pumpkin or
  Marie Vargas: Yeah? Pumpkin.
  Sue Dann: Green.
  Autumn Brown: Green.
  Marie Vargas: Green. Um um um, yes I see.
  Autumn Brown: What does it taste
  Sue Dann: And you
  Autumn Brown: like?
  Sue Dann: put in the salad.
  Marie Vargas: Pep pepperoni.
  Sue Dann: Um
  Autumn Brown: Ah yeah, is it what's it in French?
  Marie Vargas: Poivron.
  Sue Dann: Oui c'est ca
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, okay, so capsicum or pepper.
  Marie Vargas: Uh pepper.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: Pepper.
  Marie Vargas: But um they do
  Sue Dann: And it's
  Marie Vargas: d
  Sue Dann: al it also suits with the double curve for
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: easy of
  Autumn Brown: I don't know, it seems a little bit kind of bulky to Sue Dann,
  Sue Dann: No,
  Autumn Brown: like
  Sue Dann: I
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: mean in a
  Marie Vargas: It's not re
  Autumn Brown: like
  Marie Vargas: it
  Autumn Brown: with
  Marie Vargas: you
  Autumn Brown: a banana
  Marie Vargas: you
  Autumn Brown: you
  Marie Vargas: think
  Autumn Brown: can
  Marie Vargas: it's
  Autumn Brown: have
  Marie Vargas: really fancy and fun? You think that young people
  Sue Dann: I'm sure
  Marie Vargas: that are
  Sue Dann: it's fun.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah. More than a banana?
  Sue Dann: But banana is not so handy,
  Mary Harris: Banana
  Autumn Brown: Well
  Sue Dann: I think
  Mary Harris: is
  Sue Dann: that's
  Mary Harris: more
  Sue Dann: handier.
  Mary Harris: handier as compared to this I think, and to capsicum.
  Autumn Brown: But like a banana you can you can be holding like this and have the scroll wheel kind of on top and
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: just roll it back and forth like
  Marie Vargas: It's
  Autumn Brown: that,
  Marie Vargas: kind
  Autumn Brown: but with
  Marie Vargas: it's
  Autumn Brown: uh
  Marie Vargas: kind of
  Autumn Brown: I
  Marie Vargas: it's
  Autumn Brown: don't
  Marie Vargas: more
  Autumn Brown: know how you would hold
  Marie Vargas: uh
  Autumn Brown: a capsicum and
  Marie Vargas: it's really ergonomic, it's fit in the hand and you've a lot of surface to to put the controls. Okay let's move
  Sue Dann: Yeah
  Marie Vargas: on.
  Sue Dann: you're right.
  Marie Vargas: So time is running, let's move on.
  Mary Harris: Okay, so push buttons for the traditional users so that they don't feel they are alienated, just and a scroll button with push technology for channel selection, volume control and teletext browsing. These are the three scroll buttons which are already available with us in the company and we we can go ahead with that.
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Mary Harris: Yeah, we can go to the next slide. Then uh there are different kind of chips, one one is the basic chip and the regular chip and one an adva advanced chip. So we can have regular chip for control. Pricing is a factor for us, that's why we'll go for the regular chip. And uh regular chip supports speaker support, so this functionality could be used for tracing the mobile phone which has been misplaced.
  Autumn Brown: So is that, when you say speaker support, you mean it just has some output pinned which which which kind
  Mary Harris: It
  Autumn Brown: of
  Mary Harris: could be a beep kind of thing.
  Autumn Brown: Okay, but the speaker is actually attached to the to the chip in some way, or is just
  Mary Harris: Yes,
  Autumn Brown: the the
  Mary Harris: yes,
  Autumn Brown: signal?
  Mary Harris: that's
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Mary Harris: right, it's it's onto the chip, most most probably, not
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Mary Harris: not hundred per cent sure about
  Autumn Brown: So
  Mary Harris: that.
  Autumn Brown: are there any issues where we place this this chip to make sure you can actually hear the the speaker from the outside of the banana?
  Mary Harris: That will be the volume control I think which which a user shou it it should be already pre-defined. It should be whatever will be the case,
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Mary Harris: the chip is always going to be sitting inside.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, but the speaker, if the speaker is actually on the chip,
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: then if it's too far away from the the casing, or if the casing is too thick, then you may not hear the
  Mary Harris: Uh,
  Autumn Brown: the speaker.
  Mary Harris: so we can have it at one of the boundaries so that things are slightly better.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Mary Harris: As or as hearing is concerned, we can have some gap at some place,
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Mary Harris: so
  Autumn Brown: So
  Mary Harris: that
  Autumn Brown: that's something we have to keep in mind with the actual physical design is to keep the
  Mary Harris: That's right.
  Autumn Brown: the speaker close enough to the outside.
  Mary Harris: Okay. Yeah. So these these were the component selection and these things. We can go to the next slide. And uh these were the findings which I I saw with the web web, that user wants to have control more than one device wants to control more than one device from the same remote control, so our T_V_ remote can have little extra things to support additional devices like V_C_R_ D_V_D_ players which are usually attached with the T_V_, because users are like this and they don't want to have one remote control for everything, so with
  Autumn Brown: Although,
  Mary Harris: this additional
  Autumn Brown: if
  Mary Harris: little, we might be having slightly better market for us.
  Autumn Brown: It depends, if we like, if we are concentrating on like a fruit design, then maybe
  Mary Harris: Mm.
  Autumn Brown: maybe we wanna sell a collection of fruit,
  Mary Harris: Of fruits.
  Autumn Brown: you know, like a different fruit for each device.
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Autumn Brown: Cause that, you know, that sometimes people like to collect um
  Mary Harris: Remotes
  Marie Vargas: S objects.
  Autumn Brown: you know
  Mary Harris: objects,
  Autumn Brown: things that
  Mary Harris: okay.
  Autumn Brown: of a similar
  Marie Vargas: Crazy objects.
  Sue Dann: I think that would
  Autumn Brown: type.
  Sue Dann: be funny at the beginning but after one month you will be tired of be surrounded of fruits.
  Autumn Brown: Well, you're the one who wanted to do fruit in the
  Sue Dann: No
  Autumn Brown: first
  Sue Dann: but
  Autumn Brown: place.
  Sue Dann: I think just one fruit to control everything.
  Autumn Brown: Like a power fruit.
  Sue Dann: A power fr a power M a Mando, a Supermando fruit.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Mary Harris: s and we should have it on the remote.
  Sue Dann: Actually
  Autumn Brown: Well
  Marie Vargas: Okay,
  Sue Dann: I
  Marie Vargas: good.
  Sue Dann: I didn't understand very well this trace speaker lost control.
  Mary Harris: So you're having a basis station. Okay. Your usually your remote sits on that. So you and it's that's why it can have chargeable batteries. Now let's
  Sue Dann: So
  Mary Harris: say
  Sue Dann: you you have to buy two things, the banana and the basis
  Marie Vargas: Bu
  Sue Dann: station.
  Marie Vargas: it's
  Mary Harris: Basis station
  Marie Vargas: it's.
  Mary Harris: is with the thing.
  Marie Vargas: You s you you thing.
  Mary Harris: It's like a telephone handset is there and the basis station for the telephone hand set is there. So now what user gets additionally he doesn't have to buy batteries, they're rechargeable batteries, so over the period of cor time he'll recover the cost. So you're having the basis station and there is a button, if you press that button wherever the remote it'll start beeping so you know where the remote is.
  Autumn Brown: I
  Mary Harris: Uh
  Autumn Brown: think that's a pretty handy feature.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: I think it's kind of people would find that worth it even if it wasn't uh a recharging station, even
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm,
  Autumn Brown: if they didn't
  Mary Harris: mm-hmm,
  Autumn Brown: have to buy extra batteries, you know.
  Mary Harris: mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
  Sue Dann: Yeah but
  Autumn Brown: So
  Sue Dann: I'm a bit worried about the budget.
  Mary Harris: Uh this is basis station is nothing more, just it's a wire which is coming from the main cable
  Marie Vargas: Mm-hmm.
  Mary Harris: and uh you're having one socket on which the thing sits.
  Autumn Brown: Although you do need to include R_F_ kind of
  Mary Harris: That's right.
  Autumn Brown: circuitry in
  Mary Harris: But
  Autumn Brown: the remote.
  Mary Harris: all these things are usually in-house so we don't have much problems. So component cost is going to be the least. Anyway, we are not using really advanced technology, L_C_D_ has already been ruled out, A_S_R_ has been ruled out. So it's the basic thing but very trendy and very user-friendly.
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Mary Harris: And
  Autumn Brown: I'm just wondering actually, 'cause, you know, I this whole fruit thing with the banana, it's um it seemed like it first seems a bit kind of uh niche, like only a few people would really want a banana, but what if it was kind of uh a stylised banana? You know, rather than having it kind of you know yellow and really looking exactly like a banana, you could make it kind of silver. And um, you know to give you kind of the idea of a banana but without it looking you know completely kitsch. For better want of a better word you know?
  Marie Vargas: You
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Marie Vargas: think that yellow it's kitsch.
  Autumn Brown: Well, you know, I don
  Marie Vargas: If
  Autumn Brown: I don't
  Sue Dann: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: know how
  Marie Vargas: you
  Autumn Brown: many
  Marie Vargas: make
  Autumn Brown: peop
  Marie Vargas: something that looks like a banana it should
  Sue Dann: No,
  Marie Vargas: have
  Sue Dann: I
  Marie Vargas: the
  Sue Dann: I
  Marie Vargas: colour of a banana.
  Mary Harris: A yeah, otherwise
  Autumn Brown: Well
  Mary Harris: it'll be
  Autumn Brown: they
  Mary Harris: mis
  Marie Vargas: O otherwise
  Mary Harris: means you don't get
  Sue Dann: Maybe
  Mary Harris: b any feeling
  Sue Dann: li like
  Mary Harris: then.
  Sue Dann: that.
  Mary Harris: It's neither a
  Autumn Brown: Yeah,
  Mary Harris: banana
  Autumn Brown: like this
  Mary Harris: nor
  Autumn Brown: colour
  Mary Harris: a
  Autumn Brown: this colour Maybe, you know, maybe like still in the shape of a banana.
  Marie Vargas: Roughly.
  Autumn Brown: No, exactly. Exactly. Um, but you know, just maybe maybe not exactly the same texture as a banana and just kind of, you know because the thing is it's gonna be a little bit difficult to make um to give like the texture of a banana anyway and to k to have the exact shape. I think if you're gonna not be able to do it properly you may as well do it in a stylised way that just looks a bit more kind of, you know, twenty first century rather than
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: sixties or seventies.
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Mary Harris: And
  Marie Vargas: Let's
  Mary Harris: uh
  Marie Vargas: move on. Uh
  Mary Harris: going to
  Marie Vargas: uh
  Mary Harris: the last slide.
  Marie Vargas: yeah. the meeting I'd like to to draw some sketch about the pro future prot prototype.
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: Go for it.
  Mary Harris: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: Well no, not not you, you can finish
  Mary Harris: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: your slides
  Mary Harris: Okay,
  Marie Vargas: before
  Mary Harris: so. Anyway, users'll be so the findings is users'll be very interested in our locator device to find their misplaced
  Marie Vargas: Mm
  Mary Harris: remotes.
  Marie Vargas: okay.
  Mary Harris: So that was very I thought it's a very good suggestion by everybody.
  Marie Vargas: Okay.
  Mary Harris: That's it.
  Marie Vargas: That's all?
  Mary Harris: Yep.
  Marie Vargas: Okay, so mm so well done for the presentations. So we need to take some de decisions about um about what we're going to do. So I I propose that you go to the whiteboard
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: and we're going to report all the ideas we had we had during this these presentations just to draw some sketch about
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: what will be the prod final product and uh where Superman go banana and uh uh extra
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Marie Vargas: func functionalities such as wheels, um the speaker unit um well not in order not to lost the um the device, I do I don't remember you
  Mary Harris: That's
  Marie Vargas: call
  Mary Harris: right.
  Marie Vargas: it?
  Mary Harris: The basis station.
  Marie Vargas: Basis
  Mary Harris: That's
  Marie Vargas: station, yeah.
  Mary Harris: right.
  Marie Vargas: Uh so um so we're going for a stylish banana shape.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, so, I guess you wanna hold like the way the end of the banana you wanna kind of hold as ma you maybe wanna kinda hold like a gun rather than 'cause you don't want it to point kind of
  Marie Vargas: Yeah,
  Autumn Brown: towards the floor.
  Marie Vargas: right.
  Autumn Brown: So you know, so if you have like
  Sue Dann: What about what about this shape? More or less.
  Marie Vargas: We
  Mary Harris: There's less space on this to put with the buttons.
  Marie Vargas: I if it
  Sue Dann: Yeah,
  Marie Vargas: i
  Sue Dann: but
  Marie Vargas: if it has
  Sue Dann: how
  Marie Vargas: really
  Sue Dann: many
  Marie Vargas: the
  Sue Dann: buttons
  Marie Vargas: model
  Sue Dann: do
  Marie Vargas: shape
  Sue Dann: we need?
  Marie Vargas: of a bana you could the the starting is good but it could it should have more the shape of a banana if you want to point really a at the thing. If you don't want to to to do that movement which is which is difficult if you don't have to do it in fact, it's better.
  Mary Harris: Uh
  Marie Vargas: So
  Mary Harris: what about
  Marie Vargas: ti
  Mary Harris: a
  Marie Vargas: time is running, we have to we have to we have to to move forward. So let's skip to uh this uh this this this idea. Yeah.
  Autumn Brown: Okay, so
  Marie Vargas: So
  Autumn Brown: So
  Marie Vargas: we have this. We have a a basis um, how do you call it?
  Mary Harris: The base station.
  Marie Vargas: A base station.
  Mary Harris: Right.
  Marie Vargas: We'll have a base station extra uh on the side.
  Autumn Brown: okay, so I guess we need, you know, something that can fit a banana shaped object.
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Mary Harris: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: Uh, we have a R_F_ for um for beeping
  Mary Harris: That's right, yeah,
  Marie Vargas: for beeping.
  Mary Harris: we need that, yeah.
  Marie Vargas: We need b R_F_ to
  Autumn Brown: Okay,
  Marie Vargas: beep.
  Autumn Brown: so it's
  Marie Vargas: So
  Autumn Brown: uh
  Marie Vargas: we that means we need a button on th on the on the basis.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Mary Harris: Basis station.
  Marie Vargas: Basis station,
  Mary Harris: Yeah,
  Marie Vargas: thank you.
  Mary Harris: yeah.
  Autumn Brown: Alright, so we need uh okay.
  Marie Vargas: Can
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: you go quickly please? Okay. So we are going to add uh also um you as you suggested the whee some wheels to control the volumes and channels
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: and your tur turbo turbo uh
  Autumn Brown: Yeah,
  Marie Vargas: button.
  Mary Harris: Turbo
  Autumn Brown: which
  Mary Harris: button.
  Autumn Brown: I think it's it's probably best actually on the on the underneath of the
  Marie Vargas: Yeah, on the
  Autumn Brown: the
  Marie Vargas: th
  Autumn Brown: device, so you have
  Marie Vargas: yeah, maybe here. And
  Autumn Brown: Yes.
  Marie Vargas: the and the wheel a a at the level of the thumb for instance.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, so you have the thumb kind of here.
  Marie Vargas: And and you have two wheels.
  Autumn Brown: So yeah, you need one one here and one on on the other side,
  Marie Vargas: Okay right.
  Autumn Brown: so you got volume an and channel.
  Marie Vargas: Good.
  Autumn Brown: And,
  Marie Vargas: So
  Autumn Brown: uh
  Marie Vargas: no L_C_D_.
  Autumn Brown: No L_C_D_.
  Marie Vargas: Okay great. Um. Very good.
  Mary Harris: Okay.
  Autumn Brown: Oh we need a we need a power um on off switch as well.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Mary Harris: Uh for the remote?
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: Oh, just
  Mary Harris: Remotes
  Marie Vargas: the switch,
  Mary Harris: don't
  Marie Vargas: no f
  Mary Harris: have power
  Marie Vargas: not for
  Mary Harris: on
  Marie Vargas: the
  Mary Harris: off
  Marie Vargas: T_V_
  Mary Harris: switch.
  Marie Vargas: for the T_V_.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah.
  Marie Vargas: Uh
  Mary Harris: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: so
  Mary Harris: S
  Marie Vargas: you
  Mary Harris: no, that'll be controlled by the
  Sue Dann: What
  Mary Harris: those buttons'll be
  Sue Dann: a
  Mary Harris: there already, yeah.
  Autumn Brown: Where?
  Mary Harris: Means on
  Marie Vargas: On the
  Mary Harris: the
  Marie Vargas: side.
  Mary Harris: remote. Because
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Mary Harris: remote is going to have both the interfaces, scroll as well as buttons. They are not going to cost you much, everything is in-house and now you don't want the traditional users to be apprehensive of this.
  Autumn Brown: Well, I dunno if the traditional user is gonna buy a a banana remote
  Mary Harris: Oh,
  Autumn Brown: in the
  Mary Harris: yeah.
  Autumn Brown: first place, you
  Mary Harris: That's
  Autumn Brown: know.
  Mary Harris: that's another issue which
  Autumn Brown: Y
  Mary Harris: I
  Autumn Brown: I mean
  Mary Harris: didn't think of.
  Autumn Brown: you need to kind of keep it um
  Mary Harris: But you know our targets are very high, means fifty million Euros is the profit which we want
  Sue Dann: What
  Mary Harris: make.
  Sue Dann: about
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, how many of these did we wanna sell? I can't remember,
  Mary Harris: Twenty
  Autumn Brown: what was
  Mary Harris: five. Twelve point
  Marie Vargas: Twenty
  Mary Harris: five
  Marie Vargas: five.
  Mary Harris: is the profit on one.
  Autumn Brown: Yeah, but how many units did we need to to sell?
  Mary Harris: Uh forty th four.
  Sue Dann: Four
  Mary Harris: Point
  Sue Dann: millions?
  Mary Harris: point four million?
  Autumn Brown: Four point four million.
  Mary Harris: Point four million.
  Autumn Brown: That's a lot of fruit.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah.
  Mary Harris: In the market.
  Sue Dann: What about
  Marie Vargas: So.
  Sue Dann: a
  Marie Vargas: Well. No. Time is running, we have to close the meeting in a few
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: minutes. So, okay, the next step, you can come back to your
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: seat. The next step is to go for to f is to go to uh to building a prototype, based on this, okay?
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Marie Vargas: So next meeting you guys have to prepare the followi things. You have to uh work on the look and feel uh design and you have to work on the user interface, in fact you two you have to work together
  Mary Harris: Mm-hmm.
  Marie Vargas: to model the first uh f first prototype. Uh Marketing Expert uh have to go to product evaluation. Okay?
  Sue Dann: I wo what about adding the this word spotting, keyword spotting recognition saying volume up volume down?
  Marie Vargas: It's too difficult.
  Sue Dann: It's too difficult but people like innovation and that's really uh innovative and I don't know if it would cost a lot, just a few five words.
  Marie Vargas: It's not a possi it will not be possible to implement it for the next prototype, so t it's in the next prototype so
  Autumn Brown: Uh.
  Marie Vargas: let's skip it.
  Sue Dann: Okay.
  Mary Harris: For the future prototypes.
  Marie Vargas: Yeah, maybe, for the n if if
  Autumn Brown: That can be
  Marie Vargas: if
  Autumn Brown: the t
  Marie Vargas: it it works well, we'll go for
  Autumn Brown: That can
  Marie Vargas: uh
  Autumn Brown: be
  Marie Vargas: an
  Autumn Brown: like
  Marie Vargas: orange
  Autumn Brown: the turbo
  Marie Vargas: one.
  Autumn Brown: banana plus plus
  Marie Vargas: Yeah
  Sue Dann: Plus
  Autumn Brown: commando.
  Sue Dann: plus, okay.
  Marie Vargas: yeah, honour the fruit.
  Sue Dann: Maybe objective banana?
  Marie Vargas: Okay. Thanks very much. We'll see n next meeting. Bye.
  Mary Harris: So meeting's
  Autumn Brown: Okay.
  Mary Harris: over?
  Autumn Brown: Yep.
  Mary Harris: Okay.
  Autumn Brown: We have to go design
  Mary Harris: Okay.
  Autumn Brown: the prototype.
  Mary Harris: Okay. Thank you.
  Marie Vargas: Thank you.
  Sue Dann: Thank you.
  Mary Harris: The problem is after all this meeting there is
Updated Content: Marie Vargas opens the meeting, stating that it is about conceptual design. He restates the last meeting's descision that they will not do speech recognition technology but says they still have to decide whether to use an LCD screen. Then they move on to the three presentations. Sue Dann is first to present, and he talks about making a pleasant-looking device, particularly one that favors current trends. They then begin talking about using a fruit, vegetable, or natural object as the shape of the remote, the logo, or for the buttons. Eventually they decide to make the device the shape of a banana. Next, the user interface specialist presents. He annouces that the technology division of their company has developed an integrated programmeable sample speaker unit, which would allow a person to have a conversation with the remote control. They have the option of using that technology. He shows them his plan what the remote control could look like and the features it might have. He suggests putting two scroll wheels- one for changing the channel and another for the volume. He also included a turbo button for speed, which he thinks every design should have. Since they can only charge twenty-five euro they decide to eliminate the LCD screen idea. After that the interface specialist talks about having a base station for the purpose of finding the remote control when lost. The user could simply press a button on the base station and the remote control would start beeping. Lastly, Mary Harris presents, discussing the power source of the remote control. He suggests that they could have one of two kinds of power supplies- the usual batteries or rechargable ones if there is to be a base station and they could place solar cells on top for times when the lighting is good. He talks about using plastic with elasticity so that the remote would not break into pieces if it fell, which relates to their earlier discussion about giving it a spongy design. Plastic is also less costly than other options of wood or titanum. In addition, he talks about giving the control a double curve, curves on both the sides so that it is easy to hold and handle. They do not yet seem set about the idea of making it a banana shape, and one group member feels that the shape is not handy. The industrial desiger tells them they will use a regular chip rather than the advanced one since pricing is a factor. They agree on having base station with the remote. They go on to have discussion, with one member suggesting that they make the banana more stylized so that it looks less like a banana- for example, it could be silver. After that Marie Vargas has them discuss/reiterate the decisions made during the meeting:  no LCD screen, the remote will have a base station, a RF for beeping, a button on the base station to press, possibly a stylish banana-shape for the control, 2 scroll wheels to control the volume and channels at the thumb level, a turbo button perhaps underneath the device, on/off button for the TV.