Extracted Content: Edna Congleton: Is everyone ready to start?
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Yes.
  Edna Congleton: Okay. Great Well. welcome to the third meeting of conceptual design. I'll just get the PowerPoint presentation up and running. Okay. Um, on the agenda for this, um, for this particular meeting, we'll have your three presentations on what you've done since our last meeting, after we came up with um some general ideas of our design. And, um, then we have to make some key decisions on, on our concept, how we're gonna make it, what uh materials we're gonna use, and that sort of thing. The meeting will be forty minutes long.
  Ernestine Hill: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: And um we will once again have Poppy as our first presenter.
  Ernestine Hill: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Alright, and I will switch up PowerPoint.
  Ernestine Hill: Thank you.
  Edna Congleton: Okay.
  Ernestine Hill: Should be just loading. Okay. Oh, although I can't see it on my screen. That says go here. Okay. I've been doing some research into the different components that we could use, um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um, first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made, and what is it happens inside the casing, which is more your field. Um thes, main internal feature is a circuit board, which contains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source. Which is not necessarily a battery, as we're about to see. Um, there are several components of, um, the circuit board that we need to consider, where we'll be getting them from, what they'll be made of. Um, including the integrated circuit, which is also known as the chip. Which is where all the main information is uh contained. Um, diodes, transistors, resonators, resistors, and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well. Um, and
  Edna Congleton: Um
  Ernestine Hill: all their positioning in the circuit.
  Edna Congleton: Are they all included, like mandatorily, or r are these different options?
  Ernestine Hill: Uh, these, they're all different options, they're all separate, apart from the chip,
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple, a regular, advanced. We can go into that later. Um, all the other things are individual components that we'd have to get in separately, and work out the most, like, effective um circuit, including all the wires and everything like that. And the L_E_D_ of course, that's a light emitting diode. So, we could, so we've got flex flexibility with colours and things,
  Edna Congleton: Mm.
  Ernestine Hill: with that as well. Okay, there are lots of different possibilities for the energy source. We could use a basic battery, but that brings with it, like they need to be recharged and the bulk, the size of it as well. And they're not so great to dispose of, environmentally. There's a hand-powered dynamo which is a sort of thing that was used for torches fifty years ago. A bit out of date. Kinetic energy is something
  Edna Congleton: Um
  Ernestine Hill: that's been recently developed.
  Edna Congleton: What is a hand-powered dynamo?
  Ernestine Hill: Um, where you manually charge up the power. Like you
  Edna Congleton: Just
  Ernestine Hill: wind
  Edna Congleton: every,
  Ernestine Hill: up
  Edna Congleton: every
  Ernestine Hill: something.
  Edna Congleton: once in a while?
  Ernestine Hill: Sorry?
  Edna Congleton: Just every once in a while
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: or constantly?
  Ernestine Hill: Every once in a while I think. But
  Edna Congleton: Alright.
  Ernestine Hill: it's
  Edna Congleton: It'd be kind of strange to always be
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: cranking
  Ernestine Hill: It would be like
  Edna Congleton: it
  Ernestine Hill: going
  Edna Congleton: I think.
  Ernestine Hill: a step back
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: in time. I don't think it would really be with kind of cutting edge technology.
  Edna Congleton: No.
  Ernestine Hill: Whereas kinetic energy is a new idea that's being used by some watches and other devices, where you just shake the device and it gives it power. I mean, the kinetic energy is transformed into power to make the circuit work. Um, or there's solar power, which we've been considering inside a building, which is where it's gonna be used, might not be quite so
  Edna Congleton: Right.
  Ernestine Hill: useful. But, good to look into, renewable energy, always the way. Um, lots of considerations for the case, like what sort of shape it would be, curved or flat. That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics. Like how it's comfortable and s sits in the hand. We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up. Or too small. Or too slidy. I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front and the back, 'cause it had so many buttons on, and the shape was so symmetrical that I'd be pressing like
  Emma Daily: Mm.
  Ernestine Hill: a volume button instead of the on button. Because you can't really see which way round it is.
  Edna Congleton: Right.
  Ernestine Hill: Um, we also can choose what materials um, the we could use metal, we could use rubber which might be more um ideal for the anti-R_S_I_. It's like the same sort of rubber that's used in stress balls and
  Edna Congleton: Mm-hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: things like that, so it's very like soft, not so stressful on your hands. Wood. Um, again, stepping back in time again there. I don't think that's quite up to date with what we're looking for here.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Um, titanium is not gonna be possible, even though it just it beyond our budget really. But, would've been maybe for future projects. Um right our choice for buttons as well. We've developed some we've got some good advances in technology, with our research team have found some uh new multiple um option scroll buttons. I think that was brought up for, um, they're basically quite a flexible design, modern, you don't have to use individual buttons. You can just slide up and down. I'm sure we're all quite familiar with those on
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Mm-hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: mobiles or computer laptop pads.
  Edna Congleton: Um one thing with the scroll buttons though. It, it we would have to have an L_C_D_ um
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah. That's true.
  Edna Congleton: display, and
  Ernestine Hill: And that would
  Edna Congleton: the
  Ernestine Hill: lead to
  Edna Congleton: glow
  Ernestine Hill: an advanced
  Edna Congleton: in the dark thing
  Ernestine Hill: yeah. If
  Edna Congleton: might
  Ernestine Hill: we have
  Edna Congleton: be difficult.
  Ernestine Hill: yeah. We're going on to that later with the advanc with the L_C_D_ that means we'd need a really advanced chip.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: And it's
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: unlikely that that's gonna be in our budget. Um, also we've got the integrated pushbutton, which is what we're most familiar with. It's the most straightforward. But you can in like incorporate that with a scroll button as well. Got decisions to make there. this is what I was just saying before. Linked in the different depends on what type of buttons we have and the inputs. Um simple would go with the pushbutton. Um, regular you could link with the scroll button. And the advanced we'd have to go with a L_C_D_ s
  Edna Congleton: Right.
  Ernestine Hill: display. My personal preferences? I think we could go for the kinetic energy source. I don't, I think that's quite um an advanced kind of technology. It's not been seen before, so it could be quite a, a novelty factor, attractive as well. And also energy saving 'cause you're producing the energy, you don't need an external sort of battery supply or solar panels. You just give it a shake.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Sounds brilliant to Emma Daily. Rubber
  Edna Congleton: Uh.
  Ernestine Hill: casing I thing would probably the best, if we're going for the anti-R_S_I_ and like more choice with um aesthetics. Like it could be pretty much any colour we want. Um, and gives you, yeah, more flexibility there. And probably the regular chip as opposed to the simple, then we could possibly have the scroll and the push, but no L_C_D_, 'cause we probably can't afford that one.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. Um, one concern with the rubber casing
  Ernestine Hill: Mm-hmm.
  Edna Congleton: is that it would be rubber encapsulating all of these chips and diodes and delicate technology as like as the exterior. This is the one thing that's protecting its innards.
  Ernestine Hill: I think that would, uh there would be an in sort of more internal casing. And the rubber would just be the, what's in contact with the human.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Another thing is it might be more difficult if it's a rubber exterior talking about putting on interchangeable plates.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Edna Congleton: Um, is it I don't see how a like a rubber plate going on top it would stay there. Like if it was sort of like a clip-on plastic plate. It would work that way.
  Ernestine Hill: Maybe
  Phoebe Smith: W
  Ernestine Hill: if the, um, if it was just kind of a, more of a rubber coating which was on to a case. So, it was kind of, the whole thing would be removable.
  Phoebe Smith: Like plastic with rubber, kind
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: of on top
  Ernestine Hill: Like
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: I can't think of what.
  Phoebe Smith: Well, there's, there is a certain phone that has like a rubber casing,
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: b like a
  Ernestine Hill: Or
  Phoebe Smith: Nokia
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: like an you
  Phoebe Smith: it is.
  Ernestine Hill: can get
  Phoebe Smith: It's
  Ernestine Hill: sort of outer casing for
  Phoebe Smith: yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: iPods and something, that's just
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Like the
  Ernestine Hill: it's
  Emma Daily: skin?
  Ernestine Hill: protective as
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: well. It, it stops it, I mean, it would reduce the impact if it was dropped or something,
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: as well, 'cause it wouldn't damage itself so easily.
  Edna Congleton: Alright.
  Ernestine Hill: I think
  Edna Congleton: So maybe
  Ernestine Hill: i maybe
  Edna Congleton: the
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Ernestine Hill: a mixture of both there,
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: maybe. Yeah.
  Emma Daily: So the actual remote would be hard plastic and
  Ernestine Hill: And
  Emma Daily: the
  Ernestine Hill: then
  Emma Daily: casings
  Ernestine Hill: yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: rubber.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Okay. And the buttons
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: obviously are rubber.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. That sounds good. I, um, is it possible to put designs onto this type of rubber?
  Ernestine Hill: As far as I know. It should be.
  Edna Congleton: Okay, we'll just say yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yes, just why
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah,
  Edna Congleton: not.
  Ernestine Hill: yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Alright. I like the kinetic energy source idea.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah. I
  Edna Congleton: Um,
  Ernestine Hill: thought that was
  Edna Congleton: I don't know when people will, um, be moving a remote around a lot.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah,
  Edna Congleton: But
  Phoebe Smith: tha
  Edna Congleton: I think
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Edna Congleton: that it's worth it, kinetety, kinetic um energy source. It could
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: make an we could have any kind of style. It wouldn't be as heavy or bulky, and
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. Just for environmental reasons.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: I guess it's a bit scary 'cause it hasn't been done before.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: So it seems we'd have to do more research on it. Or I dunno
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: if you could have a battery pack.
  Ernestine Hill: Like as a
  Phoebe Smith: Backup.
  Ernestine Hill: backup
  Emma Daily: Yeah
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: for
  Emma Daily: so there's
  Ernestine Hill: something.
  Emma Daily: there is a one because most remotes use two batteries
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: I believe.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: So, if it was running off of one battery as
  Phoebe Smith: That
  Emma Daily: a
  Phoebe Smith: would be good yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah. Some alternative just in case
  Emma Daily: Right.
  Ernestine Hill: something went wrong.
  Phoebe Smith: Maybe we could you were saying about um solar power ma maybe not working indoors, but a lot of calculators,
  Ernestine Hill: That's true.
  Phoebe Smith: yeah,
  Ernestine Hill: I just thought
  Phoebe Smith: have
  Ernestine Hill: of that.
  Phoebe Smith: solar power.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: So maybe could
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: be incorporated
  Ernestine Hill: May
  Phoebe Smith: as
  Ernestine Hill: maybe that could be the backup.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Instead
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: of a battery.
  Emma Daily: Although
  Ernestine Hill: Like solar
  Emma Daily: it needs
  Ernestine Hill: backup.
  Emma Daily: some light, doesn't it?
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Do,
  Ernestine Hill: I suppose
  Edna Congleton: Yeah,
  Emma Daily: So,
  Phoebe Smith: do
  Edna Congleton: you
  Phoebe Smith: those
  Ernestine Hill: s
  Edna Congleton: can
  Phoebe Smith: calculators
  Ernestine Hill: but
  Edna Congleton: watch
  Ernestine Hill: some
  Edna Congleton: a T_V_
  Emma Daily: if
  Edna Congleton: in the dark
  Emma Daily: we're doing
  Edna Congleton: then.
  Phoebe Smith: yeah.
  Emma Daily: yeah. If we're
  Ernestine Hill: But
  Phoebe Smith: I
  Ernestine Hill: thing
  Phoebe Smith: don't
  Ernestine Hill: is, it's
  Phoebe Smith: know how
  Ernestine Hill: not
  Phoebe Smith: it
  Ernestine Hill: you don't
  Phoebe Smith: works.
  Ernestine Hill: need the solar all the time. It can be stored. It can be like
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: you can
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: have the solar energy and then it can store that energy and use it. It just needs to be in light for a certain
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: amount of time per day. Like a few
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: hours a day.
  Edna Congleton: I think that might be a little impractical though.
  Emma Daily: Yeah. I think sometimes it's just shoved under, under a cushion, and
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: That's true. It
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: could
  Emma Daily: yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: easily
  Edna Congleton: Like people don't wanna have to worry about that.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: I suppose it would be really annoying if you get to think, oh no, I forgot to charge my remote today. Like
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: if the kinetic thing, I think what's
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: best about
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: that is that it's instant energy. You don't have to, you know, you can shake it a few times, or whatever.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: And
  Edna Congleton: Or just like
  Ernestine Hill: it
  Edna Congleton: pick
  Ernestine Hill: works.
  Edna Congleton: it up when you're gonna
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah,
  Edna Congleton: use
  Phoebe Smith: I
  Edna Congleton: it.
  Phoebe Smith: suppose.
  Ernestine Hill: Instead of you don't have to like make sure it's in the right place to charge and.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Alright. Cool.
  Ernestine Hill: K okay.
  Edna Congleton: 'S that the end of your presentation.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Alright. Thank you.
  Ernestine Hill: There we go.
  Phoebe Smith: Thanks.
  Phoebe Smith: Oh.
  Phoebe Smith: It's not on my screen. Why?
  Ernestine Hill: it wasn't on mine either. I don't know why. I think,
  Phoebe Smith: You
  Ernestine Hill: I just,
  Phoebe Smith: don't know
  Ernestine Hill: I
  Phoebe Smith: why?
  Ernestine Hill: just used the mouse on there.
  Phoebe Smith: Oh okay. Is it that one?
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. That's
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: um
  Phoebe Smith: Um, I'm just gonna go through the interface concept with yous now. Uh, first of all I'll explain what a user interface is. It's the aspects of a computer system which can be seen or otherwise perceived, for example, heard or felt maybe, or by the human user. And it's also the commands that the user uses to control its operation and to input data. Um, there are two types of user interfaces. There's the graphical user interface, which emphasises the use of pictures for output and a pointing device, for example a mouse for input control. So that's sort of like the scroll thing we were talking about.
  Edna Congleton: Oh. Okay.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: I'm not really sure about the pictures that maybe that's on an L_C_D_ screen.
  Ernestine Hill: Mm.
  Phoebe Smith: Or maybe it's the the buttons or pictures or something.
  Edna Congleton: Hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Do you think
  Ernestine Hill: So
  Phoebe Smith: it's
  Ernestine Hill: I suppose sometime
  Edna Congleton: Yeah, 'cause
  Ernestine Hill: after you.
  Edna Congleton: I'm sorry? Um, because command interface requires you to type textual commands and input at a keyboard, so the numbers are sort of like a keyboard.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: You're pressing the numbers
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: for,
  Ernestine Hill: Mm.
  Edna Congleton: um,
  Phoebe Smith: So you must,
  Edna Congleton: for what you want.
  Phoebe Smith: for the graphical user you must need some kind of presentation for the graphics. Like an
  Ernestine Hill: I
  Phoebe Smith: L_C_D_
  Ernestine Hill: s I
  Phoebe Smith: screen.
  Ernestine Hill: suppose where um mm on some buttons you would have like the power would be s some kind of symbol.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: And if you wanted to go onto teletext or, I know we're not having that, but
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: I mean a similar thing, you, they have there's a like little picture with a screen with lines across it, which
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: I suppose it's that sort of thing like the,
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: the symbol on the button. But if we're having a simplified display anyway, w that, we
  Edna Congleton: Yeah,
  Ernestine Hill: probably
  Edna Congleton: we'll be
  Ernestine Hill: won't
  Edna Congleton: doing
  Ernestine Hill: have to focus so much on that. It'll be more the on the numbers
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: and the
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: volume.
  Edna Congleton: It'd be more a command interface,
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: and
  Ernestine Hill: I suppose
  Edna Congleton: then
  Ernestine Hill: we need to think of symbols for like the volume, display, and
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: stuff like that.
  Emma Daily: So it's just draf graphical for the pointing aspect? The infrared
  Ernestine Hill: I
  Emma Daily: is like, that's considered a
  Edna Congleton: Hmm?
  Phoebe Smith: No I think it's to do with the actual symbols that are on the, that's on the buttons of the remote control, and
  Emma Daily: Okay. So when it says
  Phoebe Smith: per
  Emma Daily: pointing
  Ernestine Hill: For inp
  Emma Daily: device that doesn't include
  Phoebe Smith: Well it could be a wee scroller thing, and something could come up on the screen.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. I think they're talking about L_C_D_ type things.
  Ernestine Hill: Mm.
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: But um I think we're gonna go with the command interface anyway, to make
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: it more simplistic.
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Phoebe Smith: But the, we could incorporate some of the graphical user um points, as in just to make it m um nicer to look at maybe.
  Edna Congleton: What do you mean?
  Phoebe Smith: Like I can't think of an example, but Sort of like little pictures rather than
  Edna Congleton: Oh yeah, like
  Phoebe Smith: Like
  Edna Congleton: how
  Phoebe Smith: a little
  Edna Congleton: the buttons
  Phoebe Smith: sound. Instead of saying volume, like a little speaker or something.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah,
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah,
  Emma Daily: Mm.
  Edna Congleton: as
  Phoebe Smith: something
  Edna Congleton: a button though.
  Phoebe Smith: y
  Edna Congleton: So, it's a keyboard in the shape of it,
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah
  Edna Congleton: right?
  Phoebe Smith: m perha yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Okay.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah. Maybe.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. I like that idea.
  Phoebe Smith: Um, the co uh we've decided that the command interface would be the most useful for a remote control. As it would be less complicated, and the controls would be more user-friendly. Um, the remote control would be cheaper to design, so that we'd have more money in the budget to, um, target the design area of the interface. You know, make it more trendy and original. We'll have more money if we keep it simple.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. I'm sure i like kinetic energy would probably dip into the budget.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: A bit more too,
  Phoebe Smith: Seeing
  Edna Congleton: yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: as it's quite a new technology. Um We, we also have to keep in mind when we're designing our, um, more user-friendly remote control, that a lot of interfaces consist of a clutter of buttons, that, um, that their functions, colours and forms aren't always helpful.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah. That's true.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: That's in like the buttons with all the different like colours for different choices and things.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: It can be a bit, yeah, overwhelming.
  Phoebe Smith: And that all interfaces are different. So, um, that doesn't improve the use of the produ product, so we need to come up with something that's easy to understand. And maybe learn from the mistakes of other interfaces that can be too complicated for people to use.
  Edna Congleton: Mm-hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: Yep.
  Phoebe Smith: Does anyone have any questions?
  Edna Congleton: Do you think that we should keep all the buttons to one same colour, just to keep it, give it a simplistic look.
  Phoebe Smith: Mm.
  Emma Daily: I think if we go with the um design plate thing, we'll have to. Just because of colour clashing, and
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: if we
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: wanted to, so and, and we might, I mean, depending on what comes out of the design, we might have to stick to just black buttons.
  Phoebe Smith: But um
  Edna Congleton: But what about the lighting up effect?
  Emma Daily: You mean different colours for the lighting or
  Edna Congleton: Um, well, um, I thought we had um decided that we would if you touched one of the buttons they'd all light up. And
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Edna Congleton: so if they were black, it wouldn't be possible for them to light up.
  Emma Daily: Oh I see what you're saying. Well y
  Edna Congleton: If they were white they would glow, probably. If they were made out of rubber.
  Emma Daily: Oh so you're picturing the light is coming from the back. I kinda pictured it as kind of coming from the sides and lighting it up frontwards.
  Ernestine Hill: Oh.
  Emma Daily: But,
  Edna Congleton: Oh. Where
  Emma Daily: but
  Edna Congleton: would the
  Emma Daily: I guess,
  Edna Congleton: light
  Emma Daily: you
  Edna Congleton: come
  Emma Daily: mean from
  Edna Congleton: from?
  Emma Daily: the back. Okay.
  Ernestine Hill: I'd assume, like, an internal light,
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: that comes through. So there would have to, have to be some parts maybe transparent around
  Emma Daily: Right.
  Ernestine Hill: the buttons,
  Edna Congleton: Yeah,
  Ernestine Hill: or something.
  Edna Congleton: and well rubber is a more translucent
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah, yeah.
  Edna Congleton: product too, so
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: It should be able
  Edna Congleton: we
  Ernestine Hill: to
  Edna Congleton: have that taken care of.
  Ernestine Hill: mm-hmm.
  Phoebe Smith: In the phone that I was thinking of as well, when you change the um covers of it, the, the little buttons that actually, you know, that contro
  Ernestine Hill: Li yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: control stuff, are behind the rubber. So you can change the buttons when you're changing the faces. Do
  Emma Daily: Oh.
  Phoebe Smith: you know what I mean?
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Oh.
  Phoebe Smith: 'Cause
  Emma Daily: They,
  Phoebe Smith: it's
  Emma Daily: they
  Phoebe Smith: just
  Emma Daily: insert
  Phoebe Smith: the wee control,
  Emma Daily: over.
  Phoebe Smith: yeah,
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Phoebe Smith: thing that's behind it. So
  Edna Congleton: Mm.
  Phoebe Smith: I mean, we don't have to decide on one colour. Each face could have its own colour of buttons maybe?
  Ernestine Hill: Mm-hmm.
  Edna Congleton: Well, if they're raised up buttons.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: So that you can feel them. We were talking about it being more um, a
  Emma Daily: T
  Edna Congleton: lot more tangible. Um, it might be more difficult to do.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: If they're, if they're sticking up. If it's flat then, like o like on a cellphone or a mobile phone, it's like all very flat, and you just have to sort of press down on these tiny little buttons, but
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: I think it would be possible. I don't think it would make that much difference. I mean, the uh the dimensions of it. 'Cause if it's just like constructed in the same way as like the front cover of a mobile phone. You can like take off the hard cover and then there's the like say the buttons. And then you get to the circuit. I don't think it would matter that the buttons were bigger through the, the top casing. I'm sure you could f work it out to fit in the casing, without
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: causing too much difficulty. I'm sure
  Edna Congleton: Okay.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: that'd be fine.
  Edna Congleton: Alright. If it's do-able we can do. Yeah, sounds good to Emma Daily.
  Phoebe Smith: So that's everything, then?
  Ernestine Hill: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Alright, thank you.
  Emma Daily: Okay is that my turn then?
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Alright. I have a shorter report for you today. Um, it took a while to get this, uh Uh.
  Ernestine Hill: You're not plugged in yet.
  Emma Daily: Oh. That's a very good point.
  Emma Daily: Okay, so um, this report is about uh trend-watching. Um, basically so we can live up to our, our uh purpose of having a very fashionable remote control. Sorry. There we go. Um So, just so you know, my method was mainly web web-based research this time around. I also spoke with fashion experts in Milan, New York and Paris. And I looked at the design reports from previous years, here at Real Remote. Um, just so c we can work off of them, see how fashions have changed. Um, so I'll list the three most important aspects that I've come across. Um, and they, they're each more important than the one that comes after it. Uh, the first one is that there should be a fancy look-and-feel, instead of the current functional look-and-feel. Um, this should be our priority, as we've been saying. The second most important aspect is that a remote sh that the remote control should be technologically innovative. So, I think we've done a lot of talking about that, just with lighting and the buttons and the face-plates. Um, so it looks like we'll be able to keep on track with that. And the third most important aspect is that the remote control should be easy to use. So, pretty basic there. And the recent fashion update, uh, according to fashion-watchers in Paris and Milan, is that fruit and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes, shoes and furniture. Um, also, in contra uh in contrast to last year, the feel of the material is expected to be spongy. Again, we've already discussed that with rubber versus hard plastic buttons. Um So, my personal preferences here, um of course, as we, we've already talked about the personal face-plates in this meeting, and I'd like to stick to that. The fruits and vegetable themes, I don't know if that's going to work for us. It sounds something that you'd use on kitchenware. I don't
  Ernestine Hill: Mm.
  Emma Daily: know if we wanna do it on remotes. It could be one of the options. Maybe
  Edna Congleton: Mm-hmm.
  Emma Daily: for the television that people have in their kitchen. Um, the temporary light-up idea, sounds like we're gonna stick to that. And then, uh, tying in a trendy look with user-friendliness.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. Yeah, it's the fruits and vegetables is the only area that I find rather jarring.
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Edna Congleton: Everything
  Ernestine Hill: It
  Edna Congleton: else
  Ernestine Hill: is
  Edna Congleton: we
  Ernestine Hill: strange.
  Edna Congleton: can really, we can really um, do, according to our plans already, given the market. But fruits and vegetables seems a very strange
  Emma Daily: It's,
  Edna Congleton: idea
  Emma Daily: it's
  Edna Congleton: for
  Emma Daily: a little
  Edna Congleton: a remote
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: control.
  Ernestine Hill: Well
  Emma Daily: but it, it's everywhere. So maybe
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: we I've seen a lot of purses with olives on them, you know. But
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: I I think, I think if we stick to T_V_ based, you know, maybe T_V_ shows, or
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Or
  Edna Congleton: But they
  Emma Daily: colour
  Edna Congleton: still
  Emma Daily: schemes.
  Edna Congleton: need to
  Ernestine Hill: We
  Edna Congleton: um fit into people's decor though.
  Emma Daily: Right.
  Ernestine Hill: I think we possibly could take a more abstract design. Like look at the basic shapes of different fruits and vegetables. And then just really like strip it down to like really basic shapes. I mean we don't have to make something in the shape of a strawberry, but it could have the curves of a strawberry,
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: or something.
  Emma Daily: The
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah,
  Ernestine Hill: Or a strawberry seed
  Phoebe Smith: yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: or
  Emma Daily: The
  Ernestine Hill: a leaf.
  Emma Daily: essence of strawberry.
  Ernestine Hill: Or just
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: like
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: you know really make it a quite abstract, if that's fits in more with what we're doing. Instead
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: of fruits and vegetables, just
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: if you look at it straightforward, it's a bit yeah. It doesn't s quite fit in with the trendy well, obviously it does, if that's the current
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: theme. But may maybe we could go more directly, I don't know.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: But initially, I dunno. I think if we just sort of tone it down a bit.
  Edna Congleton: Tone
  Emma Daily: I guess,
  Edna Congleton: it down.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah
  Edna Congleton: Yeah,
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: yeah.
  Edna Congleton: like more
  Ernestine Hill: and
  Edna Congleton: like
  Ernestine Hill: like not,
  Edna Congleton: photos
  Ernestine Hill: not
  Edna Congleton: of fruit,
  Ernestine Hill: yeah.
  Edna Congleton: on,
  Phoebe Smith: Or
  Edna Congleton: on our product.
  Phoebe Smith: banana-shaped.
  Emma Daily: One thing I was thinking though is I dunno if you all remember from our kickoff meeting, we talked about our favourite animals.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: So maybe there could be animal-based, you know. Because a lot of people have a house cat. Or, or a dog.
  Ernestine Hill: Mm.
  Emma Daily: Um, that might be getting, you know, too specific, and we should see what the success of the first face-plates are. But it's something to keep in mind.
  Edna Congleton: Mm-hmm.
  Emma Daily: And, did you have any questions? Pretty straightforward?
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah um
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Alright, given that information, we need to start making some more specific decisions. So I'll need to um hook up the PowerPoint again.
  Emma Daily: There you go.
  Emma Daily: Have you guys been saving your PowerPoint presentations to the
  Ernestine Hill: I didn't for the first one.
  Emma Daily: okay.
  Ernestine Hill: But I have now.
  Edna Congleton: But it's still around right?
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Okay.
  Ernestine Hill: Uh,
  Phoebe Smith: Where
  Ernestine Hill: hopefully.
  Phoebe Smith: do you have to save it to?
  Ernestine Hill: Project documents I think.
  Phoebe Smith: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Okay. I'm just trying to make this pop up now.
  Edna Congleton: Alright. Here we go. Okay so we have to uh decide now exactly what we are going to do. So
  Ernestine Hill: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: energy, we oh.
  Ernestine Hill: 'Kay.
  Edna Congleton: Oh no I can't write it in when it's in this setting. Does anyone know how to take it out of Um,
  Phoebe Smith: Just
  Emma Daily: The PowerPoint?
  Phoebe Smith: escape
  Edna Congleton: yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: I think.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. Okay. Um, so back to decisions. Energy, we've decided on kinetic,
  Ernestine Hill: Kinetic
  Edna Congleton: right?
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Okay, so that's good.
  Ernestine Hill: Are we going to have a backup?
  Edna Congleton: Hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: Or do we just
  Edna Congleton: But would a backup really be necessary? I mean will people just use the battery if there's no, if there's,
  Ernestine Hill: I think maybe
  Edna Congleton: if there is backup.
  Ernestine Hill: we could just go for the kinetic energy, and be bold and innovative, and
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: hope this works, and well hope that it works.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: I think yeah.
  Edna Congleton: There's
  Ernestine Hill: I think
  Edna Congleton: like no reason why it wouldn't work,
  Ernestine Hill: no.
  Edna Congleton: right?
  Emma Daily: So
  Ernestine Hill: I, I think we should just like take uh advantage of like using this to its full potential.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. It
  Ernestine Hill: Go
  Edna Congleton: could even
  Ernestine Hill: for
  Edna Congleton: be
  Ernestine Hill: it.
  Edna Congleton: one of our selling points.
  Ernestine Hill: It could
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: be fully
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: kinetic energy.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Environmentally conscious
  Ernestine Hill: Is
  Edna Congleton: or something.
  Emma Daily: So
  Ernestine Hill: everyone
  Emma Daily: if it's
  Ernestine Hill: happy
  Emma Daily: not working
  Ernestine Hill: with that?
  Emma Daily: they just have to shake it a bit and that revitalises
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: it?
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Phoebe Smith: Hope so.
  Edna Congleton: Alright, the next um decision is chip on print. I don't exactly know what that means.
  Ernestine Hill: Um, it was whether we went for the simple, the regular, or the advanced chip. And that linked in with what buttons we would gonna have, so
  Edna Congleton: Right, and we were going for more simplistic style, right?
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah, it
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: was so that was without the L_C_D_. So that means we're not
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: doing the advanced. So it depends on whether we wanted the scroll buttons or just the push buttons.
  Edna Congleton: I think we decided on the pushbuttons, right?
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah. I
  Ernestine Hill: Uh,
  Phoebe Smith: don
  Ernestine Hill: so that's
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Phoebe Smith: yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: the simple.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. Would we need a more advanced one for uh the lighting, the interior lighting system?
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah possibly. So, it's
  Edna Congleton: Yeah?
  Ernestine Hill: probably gonna be the regular chip that we're going to need. So it's a
  Edna Congleton: Okay.
  Ernestine Hill: medium. So regular
  Edna Congleton: That's called
  Ernestine Hill: chip.
  Edna Congleton: medium, or regular?
  Ernestine Hill: Regular sorry.
  Edna Congleton: 'Kay.
  Ernestine Hill: Regular chip.
  Emma Daily: Oh, is regular not simple?
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Lighting. Yeah
  Phoebe Smith: It's for
  Ernestine Hill: if
  Phoebe Smith: the lighting,
  Ernestine Hill: we
  Phoebe Smith: yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: because of the lighting that we've decided to put
  Emma Daily: Right
  Ernestine Hill: in as
  Emma Daily: right
  Ernestine Hill: well.
  Emma Daily: right.
  Edna Congleton: Okay, and cases. Um,
  Ernestine Hill: So
  Edna Congleton: does
  Ernestine Hill: th
  Edna Congleton: this, is this dependent on shape, or what it's made of, or what?
  Ernestine Hill: I think this is just like gonna be the a very outer case, which we will decide on rubber.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah. Well, I guess plastic and
  Ernestine Hill: Rubber.
  Edna Congleton: coated
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah
  Edna Congleton: in rubber.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Plastic
  Ernestine Hill: Plastic
  Phoebe Smith: plastic
  Ernestine Hill: rubber
  Phoebe Smith: coat.
  Ernestine Hill: coat.
  Edna Congleton: with rubber coating and interchangeable
  Ernestine Hill: Interchangeable,
  Edna Congleton: um
  Ernestine Hill: yeah. Still going for that.
  Edna Congleton: yeah, interchangeable
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: plates. Okay. User interface concept. This is your time to shine.
  Phoebe Smith: We decided on the component. I, I I'm sorry, I've lost my um PowerPoint
  Ernestine Hill: Your screen?
  Phoebe Smith: thing, so I can't remember what it's
  Emma Daily: Think
  Phoebe Smith: ca
  Emma Daily: it was
  Phoebe Smith: it's
  Emma Daily: called
  Phoebe Smith: the
  Emma Daily: command
  Phoebe Smith: component
  Emma Daily: interface.
  Ernestine Hill: Was it
  Edna Congleton: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Command interface,
  Phoebe Smith: The command
  Edna Congleton: Command
  Phoebe Smith: inter
  Edna Congleton: interface.
  Ernestine Hill: Ouch.
  Phoebe Smith: The command line interface yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Did you say command line?
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Okay. Line interface. Alright, and supplements. What's that all about?
  Phoebe Smith: Um, I think that is well we haven't really made any decisions about what we're gonna do about the cluster of button functions, colours and forms, in the in consistent use Like. what what are ideas to combat these problems?
  Edna Congleton: Um
  Phoebe Smith: You know how um different interfaces are very different, and can be confusing because because of their difference, and because of
  Edna Congleton: Mm-hmm.
  Phoebe Smith: the different clusters of buttons that they have. We haven't really decided what to do about that.
  Edna Congleton: Um, what are our choices here?
  Phoebe Smith: Well it's just um w where where shall we locate the buttons. What kind of functions wi shall we have?
  Edna Congleton: You mean like we'll have the numbers of the channels, and we'll have
  Ernestine Hill: The power.
  Edna Congleton: the channel-changer, and volume,
  Ernestine Hill: Volume.
  Edna Congleton: and power?
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Phoebe Smith: So pretty
  Edna Congleton: Um
  Phoebe Smith: just just the basic
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: button
  Edna Congleton: Like I
  Phoebe Smith: functions.
  Edna Congleton: don't know if we should go into like adjusting light levels, things like that, because different televisions will have
  Ernestine Hill: May yeah. Tone, contrast,
  Edna Congleton: Um,
  Ernestine Hill: and things.
  Edna Congleton: yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: That's a bit
  Emma Daily: That was on, um one of my presentations. About how often it was used. Do you remember that?
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah, it
  Edna Congleton: Yep.
  Ernestine Hill: was minima well,
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: it wasn't
  Edna Congleton: Yeah,
  Ernestine Hill: the
  Edna Congleton: it was
  Ernestine Hill: l
  Edna Congleton: hardly ever used
  Emma Daily: I w
  Edna Congleton: really.
  Emma Daily: Should I bring it up?
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah. That
  Edna Congleton: And
  Ernestine Hill: would
  Edna Congleton: most televisions
  Ernestine Hill: be good.
  Edna Congleton: will come with a remote.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah, and surely that would be like quite specific to
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah,
  Ernestine Hill: the
  Phoebe Smith: each
  Ernestine Hill: individual
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: television.
  Ernestine Hill: television, so
  Edna Congleton: 'Kay, well we know we want numbers.
  Emma Daily: The ch t Screen settings was used um zero point five times an hour. So tw twice every once every two hours. Um, and it was considered a one point five relevance, on a scale of ten. That's brightness, colour, tone,
  Ernestine Hill: Mm.
  Emma Daily: all that.
  Phoebe Smith: You don't change
  Ernestine Hill: I think most
  Phoebe Smith: that
  Ernestine Hill: of that comes
  Phoebe Smith: often,
  Ernestine Hill: like on the
  Phoebe Smith: yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: i individual television set itself, doesn't it? I'm sure it has
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah, it
  Ernestine Hill: its
  Edna Congleton: does.
  Ernestine Hill: own buttons, so you don't necessarily need to have it on remote.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah, and
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: different televisions. Like we, I don't know if we can make a remote that would be universal to all the different kinds
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: of
  Ernestine Hill: So
  Edna Congleton: changes
  Ernestine Hill: we're just going
  Edna Congleton: like that.
  Ernestine Hill: for power, channels,
  Edna Congleton: Volume.
  Ernestine Hill: volume,
  Emma Daily: The other one was audio settings. Mono, stereo, pitch. I mean I sometimes use that. Some T_V_s will have the option of like living room style, movie style,
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: um and that, they say that's used zero point eight times an hour, which is actually somewhat high. Like
  Ernestine Hill: Mm.
  Emma Daily: almost once an hour.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Um, relevance of two.
  Edna Congleton: Oh. We have five minutes to finish our meeting. Crap. Okay, um, let's do this fast. Um
  Emma Daily: Well that didn't some up on mine.
  Edna Congleton: Should we have audio? It only comes up on mine usually.
  Phoebe Smith: It w it
  Emma Daily: Oh.
  Phoebe Smith: would seem silly if we'd having anything else, just have an audio button though. Do you know?
  Edna Congleton: Yeah, I don't, I it's, it's a problem with the international uh appeal, I think. Um, if we have audio because we don't know how other televisions work.
  Phoebe Smith: But
  Edna Congleton: But we
  Phoebe Smith: we
  Edna Congleton: know that everyone has this and it's the same.
  Emma Daily: Yeah I guess
  Ernestine Hill: I've
  Emma Daily: that it affects the marketing, 'cause it, mm it is a good sales ploy to say, aren't you annoyed with remote controls that have all these buttons.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: This one has channel, volume
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah, that's it.
  Emma Daily: and your
  Phoebe Smith: That
  Emma Daily: channe
  Ernestine Hill: We
  Phoebe Smith: could
  Ernestine Hill: can
  Phoebe Smith: be
  Ernestine Hill: just
  Emma Daily: and
  Phoebe Smith: a
  Ernestine Hill: go
  Emma Daily: your
  Phoebe Smith: sales
  Emma Daily: power.
  Ernestine Hill: for,
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: make
  Phoebe Smith: pitch.
  Ernestine Hill: it a
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: selling point that it is just
  Phoebe Smith: Simple
  Ernestine Hill: the basic.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: and
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah uh I
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Alright.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: brilliant.
  Edna Congleton: Good. And, okay, in closing, 'cause we only have five minutes. We'll be meeting again in thirty minutes. Um, you'll be working, Poppy will be working on the look-and-feel design. Wait a minute. Is that right?
  Ernestine Hill: Mm-hmm.
  Edna Congleton: Yep, and um the user interface design, so this is where the trendy stuff comes in. And you'll be evaluating the product. Um, Poppy and Tara will have to work together, using modelling clay. And, um, your personal coach will give you the rest of the information of what needs to happen.
  Ernestine Hill: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Alright. So, anyone else have something to say?
  Ernestine Hill: Um, I just have one question about
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: the whole fruit and vegetable aspect.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Ernestine Hill: Are we seeing as that was the most popular thing that came up out of your market research, I thi I think we should keep to that rather than moving to animals or something, because
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: even if that may not seem obvious to us, if that's what the surveys brought out, I think that we should probably go along with that.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Um, so I suppose that'll come out in our dev design development. But you're happy to go ahead with the fruit and
  Emma Daily: Now
  Ernestine Hill: veg?
  Emma Daily: do you guys need want an idea of how many uh are you gonna come up with casing ideas? Like f
  Ernestine Hill: Y
  Emma Daily: five different
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: What I
  Edna Congleton: five.
  Phoebe Smith: What I was thinking what do yous think of this? Um, having the numbers kind of like, not a bunch of grapes, but you know like purple and kind of in a triangle.
  Emma Daily: Mm-hmm.
  Phoebe Smith: Like grapes.
  Emma Daily: Yeah you
  Phoebe Smith: Like
  Emma Daily: can have
  Phoebe Smith: that's
  Emma Daily: some fun
  Phoebe Smith: kind
  Emma Daily: with
  Phoebe Smith: of
  Emma Daily: the buttons, it's
  Phoebe Smith: fruity
  Emma Daily: true.
  Edna Congleton: Mm-hmm.
  Phoebe Smith: or something. That's
  Emma Daily: Yeah.
  Phoebe Smith: just
  Ernestine Hill: We can have a look at those ideas, yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: I guess what you i ideally you'd kind of think of age markets as well. So it's
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: a something that will, you know, appeal to the fifteen to twenty five year olds. Something that your granny would want on her remote control. Um,
  Ernestine Hill: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Emma Daily: and international tastes as well, so
  Ernestine Hill: Tricky.
  Emma Daily: Not easy.
  Ernestine Hill: A lot
  Edna Congleton: Yeah.
  Ernestine Hill: of things to consider.
  Phoebe Smith: Yeah.
  Edna Congleton: Lots
  Ernestine Hill: Hm.
  Edna Congleton: of yeah. Alright.
  Ernestine Hill: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: 'Kay we'll stick to the fruit and veggie theme then. Alright. And, um, we'll reconvene in thirty minutes.
  Ernestine Hill: Okay.
  Phoebe Smith: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: 'Kay.
  Emma Daily: Okay.
  Edna Congleton: Bye.
  Ernestine Hill: Thank you.
  Edna Congleton: I'll see you later. Oh, what did I just do. Okay.
Updated Content: Edna Congleton opens this conceptual design meeting and gives them the agenda. Ernestine Hill presents first and talks about the components of a remote, energy source options, and materials for the remote, case, and buttons. The interface specialist presents the interface concept by explaining the difference between graphical and command interface. They decide the command interface is most useful for a remote because it is simpler and more user-friendly. The group discusses aspects of the user interface including the lighting up effect and material of the buttons. Emma Daily presents on trend-watching and talks about how fruit and vegetables are an important fashion theme this year, and says the material used is expected to be spongy. The group discusses how they could implement these fashion trends into the design, then finalizes a few decisions about the components, materials, and energy sources. Edna Congleton closes the meeting, stating what each member's next task will be.