Extracted Content: Casey Gray: Hello, uh
  Jeremy Bowers: Hello.
  Casey Gray: this
  Basil Ewing: Mm-hmm.
  Casey Gray: meeting
  Dennis Durden: Hello.
  Casey Gray: we are it's fo should on the conceptual design of the remote. Um the goal of this meeting is to reach a decision at the end on the concept and I think the last time we talked about an a lot and we had a rough idea of what is going to be, but uh in th at the end of this meeting we have to to reach a decision. So, uh we will have again three presentation, from all of you, and uh I hope will be fast because I would like to have to for long discussion and and decisions. So, who wants to start?
  Dennis Durden: I s
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay.
  Dennis Durden: No, no, you you start.
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay,
  Casey Gray: So
  Jeremy Bowers: I'll
  Casey Gray: start,
  Jeremy Bowers: start.
  Casey Gray: uh
  Jeremy Bowers: Can open my presentation please.
  Casey Gray: Uh.
  Jeremy Bowers: I'm number four. Trend.
  Casey Gray: This one?
  Jeremy Bowers: Yep. Can you pass the mouse, please. Oh
  Casey Gray: Turn.
  Jeremy Bowers: okay, that's fine. Okay. Um so basically I just want to presented to you present to you some recent results we've had from um looking at uh um some remote control market research and some fashion trends around the world. Um fashion trends we got from talking our our contacts Um so f from our market research basically we've come to the conclusion that a fancy look and feel, um as opposed to a functional look and feel, is our number one priority. Um fancy is is
  Casey Gray: Hmm.
  Jeremy Bowers: is is
  Basil Ewing: Hmm.
  Jeremy Bowers: the, you know, highest priority. Secondly um that our remote control needs to be techn technologically innovative. Um so this is t number two priority but it's two times less important as the fancy criteria. Um and third thirdly the easiness of use is is the um is is important as well, but again two times less important as the technologically innovativeness of the remote control. From our f fashion people in Paris and Milan, um we've discovered that this year um fruit the fruit and vegetable motif will be the most important thing in in clothes, shoes and furniture. So, I'm pretty confident that our remote control fits into the furniture category. And also um the feel of material this year um is expected to be spongy.
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: Um so hopefully our remote control reflects that s in some way.
  Basil Ewing: What does it mean, spongy
  Jeremy Bowers: Uh sort of um squishy. Um.
  Basil Ewing: Like soft, or something?
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah soft, like a uh
  Casey Gray: Like
  Jeremy Bowers: like a
  Casey Gray: a
  Jeremy Bowers: sponge.
  Casey Gray: sponge.
  Jeremy Bowers: I
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: don't
  Basil Ewing: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: know. Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: I will see.
  Jeremy Bowers: Um so in conclusion, we need a our remote control needs to be something that's really fancy, um has lots of technolog tech technology in it. Um somehow
  Basil Ewing: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: would be good to have it related to fruit and vegetables with a spongy feel. And that it's easy to use and from our last meeting our you know Fabian told us that w you know one of the requirements is that we have to reflect the look and feel of our of th the Real Reaction company. Um.
  Casey Gray: Yeah, uh
  Jeremy Bowers: That's it.
  Casey Gray: yeah. Easy to use, is it uh a as much as important than technology or fancy thing. It's less important, right?
  Jeremy Bowers: Less important. So
  Casey Gray: Yeah yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: um fanciness first and
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: then two ti you know, half as important as that is technology technology, and half important as technology is easy to use. So.
  Casey Gray: So, Hamed, can you.
  Dennis Durden: Yeah. The second one. Could you please
  Casey Gray: Mm-hmm.
  Dennis Durden: show the presentation number three.
  Basil Ewing: I think the biggest struggle will be the easy to use feature. We'll see.
  Dennis Durden: Yeah.
  Casey Gray: Um. Number?
  Dennis Durden: Three.
  Casey Gray: Three. This one?
  Dennis Durden: Yes. Just Could you please check if it is the first one or the second. Uh, n n no, it's the first one. The second one.
  Casey Gray: So it's not this one.
  Dennis Durden: Uh yeah. Okay. Okay So am going to talk about a little bit about how this remote control should be to be more easy to use I think uh I think the feature easy to use is more important than being fancy, but okay, we can discuss about it uh later. Um generally, generally uh this remote control uh uh should be should be something, in my opinion, uh the first feature is just to be easy to use. So, the more frequent buttons should be larger, they should be placed in a good position uh uh inside the remote control. And uh s uh I can conclude like this, that we shouldn't need to learn how to use it. It should be we shouldn't need to es open a a t book and uh start reading and uh learning how to use this uh this uh remote control. Okay. So what I found out that uh as I said uh I think it's better to put uh more frequent uh uh uh ke uh buttons which are used more in the middle of the remote control, and they should be bigger in size. Uh the shape of remote control should be in a way which can which should be taken easily in hand. It should not be completely like uh a cube. It should be it should have round edge, so
  Basil Ewing: Exactly.
  Dennis Durden: uh then it's easier. And maybe uh just like some toys, some joystick which is easier to take inside the hand. And uh also f uh uh m because because customers doesn't like to buy lots of battery, it should not uh consume lots of energy. Okay. And my personal p uh preference is uh, as I said, uh just putting this buttons in a special places and covered some buttons which are not used uh that much like settings button, like mobile phone. Usually some mobile phone cover the dialling number part, so we can cover these buttons which are not used or uh number buttons for the for the for the can channels, and just put uh volume change or s ch can uh channel change buttons uh uh in the remote control. And if the user needed to do some more complex task uh he he can open the cover and then change settings or something like this. Uh. And also uh I think if we put some some some some some buttons inside of the remote control it can be used easier. Not on remote control. I dunno if I can explain well. But uh just inside. For example, a sliding or rolling uh uh d uh stuff, if we put it inside then we can easily manipulate with uh thumb. So it can be another uh preference. And uh I dunno but uh I think usage of a speech recogn uh r recogniser can be good. I know that it consumes lots of energy, but if we do it in some way that it asleeps when there is no sound and when it detects some sound it may consume less energy. And I think it's good because it's something new and usually young people like something new. So it may not be very useful but because it's new, people may buy it. Uh I personally think there should be a big difference between uh between something. Otherwise they prefer to buy something which is coming from a famous company, or. Okay. That's mine.
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: Uh okay, so good news from Jeremy Bowers uh uh for Jeremy Bowers from Hamed, but bad news from Bob obviously, because spongy design, I don't like it as Okay, so could you please, Fabien, open it.
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: I'm person two. And which one, uh first one. I'm not sure but check the first one. I Most of the things I have to write myself on the
  Casey Gray: This
  Basil Ewing: board,
  Casey Gray: one, yeah.
  Basil Ewing: but Yeah, that's it. Just It's only this slide? Yeah. This this is just uh one thing I wanted to mention and show you that I just uh I just found this, that our company uh developed a s a seven f seven fingers or I'll just
  Jeremy Bowers: Inch.
  Basil Ewing: Yeah, seven seven inch T_ T_F_T_ screen, which is good news for us, since we wanted to include a display there. Uh so I I probably
  Casey Gray: Oh,
  Basil Ewing: draw it down raw scheme. This is this is the stuff that I
  Casey Gray: Oops.
  Basil Ewing: can use to Okay, so the this will be like the overall scheme or overall requirements from the engineering point of view. Uh first thing is uh this will be the overall shape, no uh I'm not speaking about the real shape of the device, but the shape of the inside of the device. So there will be some circuit uh for the power. So, say power circuit here. Uh the main energy will be taken from batteries that we can uh uh And if we decide to use the speech recognition stuff there, we must use additional source of energy, which I found the best is to use the solar cells which can which can uh supply everything. I was computing all the all the things related to the speech recognition, and it's okay to use just uh two batteries and solar cells, so. So no problem. There can be also solar cell. Uh the main board with all the circuits will take at least seven to seven centimetres, so this is my like hard requirement for the guys from the design. So
  Dennis Durden: Mm-hmm.
  Basil Ewing: at least seven to seven. It depends where you put your screen, because the screen is uh seven inch, so it depends on you where where you put it. It doesn't matter. Um it's just one cord from from the main board to the screen which can be elsewhere. So this will be T_F_T_. And on the main board we have the um interface to the microphone, which is somewhere, say here. Interface to the microphone. Then the graphical card uh for the T_F_T_ and the third unit is the I_R_. The good news is that we can uh we decided to use the infra-red unit because our company has also developed the chip for communication by the infra-red, including all the stuff inside, so it will be very cheap for us. So infra-red here. So the once again the overall requirements, seven to seven centimetres for the board, which has to be which can be spongy but has to be this size, and the T_F_T_ which is seven inches. Um I have to check what I wanted to Uh from my point of view I don't care about the about the material used for the overall des uh ov all the device.
  Casey Gray: Can you fit any uh for example a T_F_T_ or any electronic device in a spongy thing, or is there any problem for that? For example, put electronic card on a spongy thing, I can I can imagine it could be a problem.
  Basil Ewing: A all these things in in uh in this box are okay to put in in any shape, basically. But we
  Casey Gray: Yep.
  Basil Ewing: have to take care of the T_F_T_. Well, sponginess. Maybe it a good feature, since it takes if it's around the T_F_T_
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: then it's
  Casey Gray: So
  Basil Ewing: good, because it's just keeps it safe, I dunno.
  Dennis Durden: Well maybe it
  Jeremy Bowers: So
  Dennis Durden: can have two shells, a hard shell inside and a spongy
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Dennis Durden: shell
  Casey Gray: Maybe
  Dennis Durden: outside.
  Casey Gray: put electronic in a box and a spongy thing around.
  Basil Ewing: Well,
  Casey Gray: maybe after.
  Jeremy Bowers: So
  Basil Ewing: it's maybe
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: Ca
  Basil Ewing: related to the U_I_.
  Jeremy Bowers: Can I ask a question.
  Basil Ewing: A Yeah, that's all from Jeremy Bowers.
  Jeremy Bowers: This seven inch T_F_T_ screen,
  Basil Ewing: Yeah?
  Jeremy Bowers: how big is it in reality?
  Basil Ewing: Well, seven to seven inches.
  Jeremy Bowers: So like that.
  Basil Ewing: Yes.
  Jeremy Bowers: That's quite big. Uh uh have we decided that we're gonna use this T_F_T_ screen?
  Basil Ewing: Yeah
  Casey Gray: No,
  Basil Ewing: but
  Casey Gray: I don't think it's seven by seven, I think it's
  Basil Ewing: To
  Casey Gray: seven
  Basil Ewing: be honest,
  Casey Gray: the diagonal
  Basil Ewing: I was
  Casey Gray: is seven. Usually when they say
  Jeremy Bowers: But
  Casey Gray: seven
  Jeremy Bowers: I mean even
  Dennis Durden: Yeah
  Casey Gray: inch
  Jeremy Bowers: even
  Casey Gray: I
  Dennis Durden: yes.
  Jeremy Bowers: that
  Casey Gray: think
  Jeremy Bowers: is
  Casey Gray: it's
  Jeremy Bowers: like
  Casey Gray: the
  Jeremy Bowers: this
  Casey Gray: diagonal.
  Jeremy Bowers: big.
  Casey Gray: Yeah. I dunno I dun I dun One each. But, yeah,
  Basil Ewing: Yeah, honestly speaking I was thinking that it was seven centimetres initially,
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: but it's seven inches. But I I think we can we can cut it.
  Jeremy Bowers: You can cut the T_F_T_ screen.
  Basil Ewing: Yeah, no no problem,
  Casey Gray: Let's
  Basil Ewing: because
  Casey Gray: go.
  Basil Ewing: because because then the size of the graphic card will be one fourth. So Yeah, but no
  Casey Gray: So
  Basil Ewing: problem
  Casey Gray: let's cut
  Basil Ewing: to
  Casey Gray: the
  Basil Ewing: to
  Casey Gray: T_F_T_.
  Basil Ewing: Jeremy Bowers to cut the screen.
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay, so
  Basil Ewing: So so for the same price we have four
  Casey Gray: Mm.
  Basil Ewing: screens now.
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay.
  Casey Gray: These technical engineers, huh.
  Jeremy Bowers: So, what's the size of the device?
  Basil Ewing: Ah well this is like this is almost nothing. Seven to seven to at least well some three millimetres or something.
  Jeremy Bowers: Even from my perspective seven t seven centimetres by seven centimetres is still
  Basil Ewing: Yeah, but we wanted the big
  Jeremy Bowers: Is it
  Basil Ewing: buttons
  Jeremy Bowers: Can you hold
  Basil Ewing: and
  Jeremy Bowers: that,
  Basil Ewing: stuff
  Jeremy Bowers: or?
  Basil Ewing: like that, you know. Because if it's t too small we can we can lose it, at home, you know.
  Casey Gray: What user wants. He wants a small remote control,
  Dennis Durden: Uh.
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah,
  Casey Gray: or? Uh
  Jeremy Bowers: a small
  Casey Gray: uh
  Basil Ewing: I thought
  Jeremy Bowers: c
  Basil Ewing: that
  Jeremy Bowers: control
  Basil Ewing: it it
  Jeremy Bowers: that they
  Basil Ewing: should
  Jeremy Bowers: can
  Casey Gray: with
  Basil Ewing: fit
  Jeremy Bowers: hold
  Casey Gray: big
  Jeremy Bowers: in
  Basil Ewing: in
  Jeremy Bowers: hand.
  Basil Ewing: the
  Casey Gray: buttons.
  Basil Ewing: hand or
  Dennis Durden: Yes.
  Basil Ewing: something.
  Casey Gray: It's difficult. A
  Jeremy Bowers: But
  Casey Gray: sm
  Jeremy Bowers: is something that's seven centimetres square e easy to hold?
  Basil Ewing: W I I think so. I if the roller buttons are on the side you don't have to catch it like that, but just like this, and you know follow follow Well, that's that's no task for Jeremy Bowers, but well
  Casey Gray: So
  Basil Ewing: seven
  Casey Gray: maybe you
  Basil Ewing: to
  Casey Gray: can
  Basil Ewing: seven
  Casey Gray: finish
  Basil Ewing: at least
  Casey Gray: your presentation,
  Basil Ewing: yeah, but
  Casey Gray: and afterwards we will discuss
  Dennis Durden: Maybe this.
  Basil Ewing: Oh,
  Casey Gray: about
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: okay.
  Casey Gray: all this.
  Basil Ewing: Okay thanks.
  Casey Gray: That's it. Okay. So. No. Uh, so I think we have a lot We have to take decision today, so I think we have to do some work to finalise our idea and take decisions. Uh first I think energy it's a key problem because uh it depend what can we have as feature if we use only batteries, for example, or something like that. Because can we have L_C_D_ and speech recognition with battery, and it's
  Basil Ewing: Not
  Casey Gray: also r related to the size of the of the devi of the
  Basil Ewing: J
  Casey Gray: device?
  Basil Ewing: uh just a point to the energy th things.
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: so no problem in energy,
  Casey Gray: So
  Basil Ewing: I think.
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: But
  Dennis Durden: So but
  Basil Ewing: we have to use the solar cell. Otherwise
  Casey Gray: Uh
  Basil Ewing: not.
  Casey Gray: like but using how many batteries, for example? Are are what Maybe what is the size of the battery
  Basil Ewing: Yeah I was thinking just common A_A_ cells.
  Casey Gray: Okay. Uh
  Basil Ewing: So like
  Casey Gray: one
  Basil Ewing: three
  Casey Gray: two
  Basil Ewing: to five centimetres, I dunno exactly,
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: but.
  Jeremy Bowers: So if we use s solar cells, um
  Basil Ewing: S
  Jeremy Bowers: where is the sun if someone's watching
  Basil Ewing: Uh
  Jeremy Bowers: T_V_
  Basil Ewing: d
  Jeremy Bowers: inside?
  Basil Ewing: doesn't need to be sun. It it's just the daylight, you know.
  Casey Gray: The
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay.
  Casey Gray: television
  Basil Ewing: Yeah well I I
  Casey Gray: lights.
  Basil Ewing: suppose that I suppose that uh that this remote control won't be in the in the room like this, where there is light only when
  Dennis Durden: Mm-hmm.
  Basil Ewing: when there are people, but.
  Casey Gray: At least when there is T_V_ you can get light
  Basil Ewing: Yeah
  Casey Gray: from
  Basil Ewing: from the
  Casey Gray: the
  Basil Ewing: T_
  Casey Gray: T_V_.
  Dennis Durden: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: I don't think it's enough, uh.
  Casey Gray: I dunno.
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay.
  Casey Gray: Okay. Mm.
  Basil Ewing: Ah it's a it's a compromise, no?
  Casey Gray: At least it's new and maybe technology
  Basil Ewing: Yeah,
  Casey Gray: New
  Basil Ewing: that's
  Jeremy Bowers: It's
  Casey Gray: technology.
  Basil Ewing: why I
  Jeremy Bowers: it's
  Basil Ewing: wanted
  Jeremy Bowers: quite innovative,
  Basil Ewing: to to include
  Jeremy Bowers: yes.
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: the speech recognition,
  Dennis Durden: Hmm.
  Basil Ewing: because you wanted
  Casey Gray: Um.
  Basil Ewing: all the new
  Jeremy Bowers: And if you
  Basil Ewing: things.
  Jeremy Bowers: watch T_V_ outside it's very
  Casey Gray: So
  Jeremy Bowers: useful.
  Casey Gray: I think before talking about the other thing, it's important thing it's the case. Uh what what are gonna be the size, because its weight drives the other what we are going to use as features and so on. For example for the for the L_C_D_, if we choose to have a small device, we cannot use this um a such a a a screen.
  Basil Ewing: Uh the s the screen is okay, but the board, uh that's the problem. Well what what would you guess as a shape? Or what
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Basil Ewing: what would be the shape?
  Dennis Durden: I think I think their being uh large or small is not important. The only important thing is to be able to take it in uh inside hand easily. So let's say
  Basil Ewing: Mm.
  Dennis Durden: an average size, okay, and it should not be very heavy also. And I prefer to is it shouldn't have a uniform shape, so in the middle it should be a little bit thinner, maybe maybe. So we c it's like like some joysticks. You can take uh some some joystick you can take inside hand easier because it's it's designed for your f uh taking into account your finger shape and your palm shape. So the general shape should be like this. I think uh seven centimetre by seven centimetre is a little bit large. So uh
  Basil Ewing: Okay.
  Dennis Durden: seven not seven but let's say five by ten it's I think it's that's my opinion.
  Jeremy Bowers: Which
  Dennis Durden: It's
  Jeremy Bowers: is the same
  Dennis Durden: easier.
  Jeremy Bowers: area.
  Dennis Durden: Yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: Could
  Basil Ewing: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: you re could you redesign your board?
  Basil Ewing: Five to ten.
  Jeremy Bowers: Oh, five
  Basil Ewing: Well that
  Jeremy Bowers: five centimetres by ten centimetres.
  Basil Ewing: Yeah, right.
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: Yeah, I think it's feasib Well one um um How could we do it? We could put the board next to, well, under the L_C_D_ and for
  Dennis Durden: Mm-hmm.
  Basil Ewing: example make the L_C_D_ be totally unrelated to the thing that you hold in your hand. Like holding something, and the L_C_D_ to be just on top of it, you know somehow. Well But maybe
  Casey Gray: Oh.
  Basil Ewing: let's stick to the s spongy thing, like one unit.
  Casey Gray: I've
  Basil Ewing: Well
  Casey Gray: I
  Basil Ewing: fi
  Casey Gray: s
  Basil Ewing: five
  Casey Gray: I
  Basil Ewing: to
  Casey Gray: think
  Basil Ewing: ten it would be feasible.
  Casey Gray: the easiest thing would be to to have a smaller L_C_D_, if it's possible.
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Basil Ewing: Okay, so five to ten, I I think it's it's
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: feasible.
  Casey Gray: So we
  Basil Ewing: I'll make
  Casey Gray: are agree
  Basil Ewing: it.
  Casey Gray: with a small
  Dennis Durden: Or
  Basil Ewing: Fo
  Casey Gray: L_C_D_.
  Dennis Durden: uh
  Basil Ewing: Five by ten.
  Dennis Durden: or I don't know but I don't want to now invent something new, because we didn't discuss about it. So using some L_C_D_s we can touch, so we can remove uh keys and just uh having uh, I dunno the name, L_C_D_ responding to fingers.
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Dennis Durden: Touching the screen. Something
  Casey Gray: Tactile
  Dennis Durden: like
  Jeremy Bowers: Mm,
  Casey Gray: or something,
  Jeremy Bowers: touch screen.
  Casey Gray: yeah. Touch screen, yeah.
  Dennis Durden: So But for now if we don't want to use such kind of screens
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Dennis Durden: I I think we using a a smaller screen is better, because
  Casey Gray: The problem is we have a limit in a month of time, so we cannot do
  Basil Ewing: Mm-hmm.
  Casey Gray: something very new. So
  Jeremy Bowers: So
  Casey Gray: let's go
  Basil Ewing: Okay,
  Casey Gray: for
  Basil Ewing: so
  Casey Gray: a small L_C_D_.
  Basil Ewing: Yeah, so
  Dennis Durden: A smaller
  Basil Ewing: so just
  Dennis Durden: s
  Basil Ewing: just give Jeremy Bowers the the the five by ten numbers that
  Casey Gray: Yeah
  Basil Ewing: you find
  Casey Gray: okay.
  Basil Ewing: the best and send
  Dennis Durden: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: it Jeremy Bowers and
  Casey Gray: So,
  Basil Ewing: I will
  Casey Gray: five
  Basil Ewing: work
  Casey Gray: by
  Basil Ewing: it
  Casey Gray: s
  Basil Ewing: out.
  Casey Gray: ten.
  Basil Ewing: Hmm.
  Casey Gray: Um so what about, so the case we talked about. Um something easy to use, you said something easy to use but how does that fit in a fashion way, like with fruit and vegetable, and about the colour and logo of the of the company and so on, now, can we do that? My first idea is because our colour is more yellow, and the it should be easy to take in a hand, I thought about banana, or something like that, which is fruits, and
  Basil Ewing: Seven to ten banana.
  Casey Gray: A big
  Basil Ewing: Okay.
  Casey Gray: banana.
  Basil Ewing: Rather mango or something or.
  Casey Gray: Um.
  Jeremy Bowers: Well it's it's definitely the obvious choice, with the colour of
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: our company. I mean what
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: other
  Casey Gray: But
  Jeremy Bowers: what other fruit
  Casey Gray: it's just
  Jeremy Bowers: and vegetables
  Casey Gray: an idea. I dunno what you think
  Jeremy Bowers: Do you
  Casey Gray: about,
  Jeremy Bowers: know of any any other fruit
  Casey Gray: but
  Jeremy Bowers: and vegetables that are yellow?
  Casey Gray: Yeah. I dunno if it can fit with the technology. You are the specialists of that.
  Basil Ewing: You mean banana. Well, but If it's If it If the banana is big enough. Then, yes.
  Casey Gray: So
  Basil Ewing: But if you want to look at the screen, no. Well
  Casey Gray: Yeah, and
  Dennis Durden: I think this
  Casey Gray: The
  Dennis Durden: is
  Casey Gray: screen has
  Dennis Durden: not good.
  Casey Gray: to be square? Or it can be like a a shape, quite,
  Basil Ewing: Well,
  Casey Gray: uh
  Basil Ewing: it can
  Casey Gray: with
  Basil Ewing: be
  Casey Gray: curves.
  Basil Ewing: whatever you want. But
  Casey Gray: It could.
  Basil Ewing: if it's square then we get four screens out of one by cutting just. But if you want some shape then we
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: can only get like two screens out of seven to seven inches,
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Basil Ewing: so. It's like more more expensive to have shape like that. But I don't care. You know, if we fit
  Jeremy Bowers: Well
  Basil Ewing: this requirement.
  Jeremy Bowers: I'd like a shaped screen. I think that's more important than saving
  Basil Ewing: Okay
  Casey Gray: Okay
  Jeremy Bowers: a bit
  Casey Gray: okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: of money on
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Jeremy Bowers: on the T_F_T_ screen.
  Basil Ewing: Yeah, m maybe the banana could be like a bit uh fatter than than the c
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: c common
  Casey Gray: Yeah,
  Basil Ewing: one.
  Casey Gray: it should
  Basil Ewing: But
  Casey Gray: remember banana, but it's not doesn't have to b
  Basil Ewing: Like modified
  Casey Gray: to be uh uh
  Basil Ewing: banana, okay.
  Casey Gray: really the size and exactly the shape of a banana.
  Basil Ewing: Well it we'll stick to banana, or?
  Dennis Durden: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah, banana's
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: good.
  Basil Ewing: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: Mm-mm.
  Casey Gray: So, the last point we decided it's infra-red, I guess.
  Dennis Durden: Yeah, I
  Basil Ewing: Yeah,
  Casey Gray: Everybody's
  Dennis Durden: think infra-red.
  Basil Ewing: yeah.
  Casey Gray: agreed.
  Basil Ewing: Sure.
  Casey Gray: Uh, so that's it I think about the concepts. You have other thing to add to this point, or uh no? So, uh about the user interface, so we are going to use L_C_D_. In the last meeting we talked about uh hidden buttons. I don't know what we are going to do with that. You
  Basil Ewing: Like
  Casey Gray: talked
  Basil Ewing: like
  Casey Gray: about
  Basil Ewing: peeling
  Casey Gray: the
  Basil Ewing: of
  Casey Gray: buttons
  Basil Ewing: the banana
  Casey Gray: on the
  Dennis Durden: Yeah,
  Casey Gray: side
  Basil Ewing: you s
  Dennis Durden: peeling of the banana.
  Basil Ewing: It
  Casey Gray: Mm
  Basil Ewing: would be cool, yeah.
  Casey Gray: what?
  Basil Ewing: Peeling of the banana, you know,
  Dennis Durden: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: should should discover the other buttons,
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Basil Ewing: which are hidden.
  Casey Gray: Yeah. Okay. And you mean the first layer would be spongy.
  Dennis Durden: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: First layer obviously spo Yeah, w
  Casey Gray: So
  Basil Ewing: It's it's like
  Casey Gray: Is
  Basil Ewing: silly, but the people
  Casey Gray: it
  Basil Ewing: will really appreciate
  Casey Gray: is
  Basil Ewing: it, yeah
  Casey Gray: it
  Basil Ewing: I think.
  Casey Gray: possible to do that? It would be a great idea, but is it possible technically?
  Dennis Durden: Uh
  Casey Gray: Like doing a spongy layer of
  Jeremy Bowers: I think
  Casey Gray: the banana,
  Jeremy Bowers: if we
  Casey Gray: and
  Jeremy Bowers: if
  Casey Gray: you
  Jeremy Bowers: we
  Casey Gray: open
  Jeremy Bowers: have a
  Casey Gray: it.
  Jeremy Bowers: spongy layer on the outside of the banana then
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: it's easy to make that, you know, to
  Dennis Durden: Mm-hmm.
  Jeremy Bowers: manipulate that
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: to
  Dennis Durden: Yeah,
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Dennis Durden: some
  Jeremy Bowers: hav be a cover that you can pull off and
  Dennis Durden: Something like a plastic cover covering uh some interface, U_S_B_ interface as in the in uh digital camera. If you see it's like peeling. You open a plastic cover and you see some U_S_B_ interfaces, some some interfaces for adaptor. So keys can be uh buttons can be covered like this, with a plastic cover and uh when uh and when you open this cover it's like peeling a banana. So, something like this.
  Casey Gray: Yeah, but do you see that as a rigid thing, or like like a banana, something very soft, you can open like banana, or.
  Basil Ewing: Well is it possible to make it soft?
  Dennis Durden: Yeah, yeah,
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Dennis Durden: yeah it's a lic like a plastic cover, so.
  Basil Ewing: So I think
  Casey Gray: So,
  Basil Ewing: if it's so then it's
  Casey Gray: I dunno
  Basil Ewing: cool?
  Casey Gray: what you think, Bob, but it would be great for users I think, and very
  Jeremy Bowers: I think for
  Casey Gray: good
  Jeremy Bowers: sure.
  Casey Gray: for marketing.
  Jeremy Bowers: Definitely. The softer the better.
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: Cool.
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: Honestly speaking, I cannot imagine it, so far, but
  Casey Gray: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: it will be terrible.
  Casey Gray: Um.
  Basil Ewing: Mm.
  Casey Gray: And setting buttons hidden in.
  Casey Gray: Mm, other remarks, or something, or. Something we didn't talk about yes yet, or. I think we are almost there. Uh maybe, how can we, if we have a soft thing, like this, and to open it we have to attach it somewhere, I dunno how to do that technically, or.
  Dennis Durden: Mm-hmm.
  Casey Gray: And how
  Basil Ewing: Pof.
  Jeremy Bowers: We could use Velcro.
  Casey Gray: Yeah, maybe.
  Jeremy Bowers: Or uh ma maybe a magnetic
  Dennis Durden: Yes, yeah it's a good idea.
  Jeremy Bowers: thing.
  Dennis Durden: Magnetic.
  Casey Gray: Ma magnetic oh.
  Dennis Durden: Mm. Yeah or a Yeah it can is it can be a plastic cover uh sticking to the to the all the stuff like uh with magnetic p uh magnetic uh magnetic uh materials in the border, so it's it sticks like refrigerator door, completely.
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Dennis Durden: And when you try to open it, it will be opened easily. So you you can be sure that it will not be open while you're uh while while uh you are commonly using uh buttons on
  Casey Gray: Okay.
  Dennis Durden: the banana.
  Casey Gray: And what would be the matter here of the first layer I mean? Mm. Likes. Soft plastic, or
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah, I imagine some sort of vinyl
  Casey Gray: Yeah,
  Jeremy Bowers: thing.
  Casey Gray: yeah, yeah.
  Jeremy Bowers: In a in a sort of a with a suede sort of feel. Maybe.
  Basil Ewing: Well since since the since the things like the like the screen and um how to say that, solar cell has to be has to be like kept kept in the shape, we cannot b uh So we need that the that the peeling uh I dunno but we should we should take care of these two two things. So, if if uh the solar cell won't be visible while the banana is closed, then the material must be able to put the light inside, you know. So that we can reach the energy out of it out of that.
  Jeremy Bowers: Mm.
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Jeremy Bowers: So you're saying is it possible to have a solar cell and this removable cover
  Basil Ewing: It is
  Jeremy Bowers: and
  Basil Ewing: possible, but, well if
  Jeremy Bowers: And
  Basil Ewing: it
  Jeremy Bowers: a and a banana.
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Basil Ewing: I dunno. I dunno how to how to do it if if t if to if it's better to put the solar cell to the t to the peeling or outside it,
  Casey Gray: Hmm.
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah.
  Basil Ewing: or or inside. But then it must be some window there,
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay.
  Basil Ewing: you know.
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Casey Gray: And something we forgot, maybe, uh about the speech recognition system, are we going to use it, or not?
  Dennis Durden: Yes, I think.
  Jeremy Bowers: I think
  Dennis Durden: I
  Jeremy Bowers: it's
  Dennis Durden: think
  Jeremy Bowers: important.
  Dennis Durden: so.
  Casey Gray: It
  Jeremy Bowers: I think
  Casey Gray: i Yeah,
  Jeremy Bowers: One
  Casey Gray: it seems
  Jeremy Bowers: of our
  Casey Gray: feasible,
  Jeremy Bowers: p
  Casey Gray: and it
  Jeremy Bowers: priorities
  Casey Gray: would be
  Jeremy Bowers: is
  Casey Gray: something
  Jeremy Bowers: tech
  Casey Gray: very
  Jeremy Bowers: technology.
  Casey Gray: great.
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Jeremy Bowers: And
  Casey Gray: So we have the de design, the a good shape,
  Dennis Durden: Mm-hmm.
  Casey Gray: new and so on, and we have also the technology thing w will be.
  Jeremy Bowers: Mm-hmm.
  Casey Gray: And
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Casey Gray: even the easy to use thing, so it will be perfect.
  Dennis Durden: Mm.
  Casey Gray: So
  Jeremy Bowers: Yeah.
  Casey Gray: we add also
  Basil Ewing: Yeah.
  Casey Gray: the speech recognition device.
  Basil Ewing: I agree.
  Casey Gray: So, that great. We have decided everything. And think we are on a good way. So, um uh the next meeting will start in thirty minutes. Um, so uh the the Industrial Manager uh will uh will work on the look and feel design. The User Interface uh uh Mana uh Manager will work on the user interface device. And the Jeremy Bowers will do the first project evaluation.
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay.
  Casey Gray: So, I hope you can do that in thirty minutes. And uh, yeah, I uh I think you should work together, s you uh Hamed and Peter, to work uh in a in a first prototype, and uh more about the shape and so on and how you can manage to put everything together. And um as usual you will receive some specific instructions on. So
  Basil Ewing: Okay.
  Casey Gray: thank you all everybody, and see you in thirty minutes.
  Jeremy Bowers: Okay. Thank
  Basil Ewing: Okay.
  Jeremy Bowers: you.
  Dennis Durden: Thank you.
Updated Content: Casey Gray stated that the goal for the current meeting was to decide upon a concept for the remote the team is creating. Jeremy Bowers discussed his findings from trend watching reports. He found that current trends are such that a product must have a fancy look and feel, be technologically innovative, be easy to use, incorporate a fruit and vegetable motif, and must be spongy. Dennis Durden discussed how to create an interface for a remote that is easy to use. Dennis Durden discussed the placement of commonly used buttons, the overall shape of a remote, and how to hide less commonly used buttons. Basil Ewing discussed various components and energy sources the remote could include. Basil Ewing focused on the use of a TFT screen and the use of solar cells to supplement the energy from two regular batteries. The team then discussed and made decisions regarding the option to use solar cells, the specifications of an LCD screen, how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable motif into their design, and how to hide lesser used buttons.