Extracted Content: Michael Lane: So we come to the third meetings. I have good. Um so in the last meeting we have discussed the functional design and now we will talk about the conceptual design. So we
  Otis Dietrich: Okay
  Michael Lane: will talk about
  Otis Dietrich: so
  Michael Lane: some
  Otis Dietrich: I think I
  Michael Lane: specific
  Otis Dietrich: will
  Michael Lane: details.
  Otis Dietrich: do my presentation on the components concept so can you please uh open uh I'm participant two. Components
  Michael Lane: This
  Otis Dietrich: design. Okay so uh the first thing uh I have done is to to made a review together with the uh manufactural uh department and have which components was uh available to build a remote control. So for energy sources we have we have to choose between the solar energy, hand dynamo and uh kinetic um well uh kinetic uh technique to to store the energy. We also um we also can put a regular battery in the in the remote control.
  Michael Lane: Uh
  Otis Dietrich: Now
  Michael Lane: this is what we have decided in the last meeting. But if we use battery
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah b uh f well uh I meant uh by by battery I meant uh I will not have a uh a wire between the remote control and the energy source but uh I didn't fou we didn't decide yet which kind of battery we will put inside the the remote. So uh it's a point to discuss. Then uh the case material we have uh uh also several choices, like wood, rubber, titanium or latex. But uh well it's not a a re uh well a real issue for the from the technical uh point of view. Concerning the interface uh we can we can put mm just simple buttons or scrolls or buttons uh much more complicated, but it also requires that the chip to process
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: the button is more complicated so. And uh this is the last point, the choice of chips. So what I have f found is that I think basic battery or kinetic uh energy uh collection is the is the better way to provide energy because I think solar energy wi won't work in a cluttered uh
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: uh environment. So um so I think we can start with these two main things. For the case uh well uh I think that uh titanium is um is a good choice because it's trendy and it's uh it's uh well it's modern and uh user are are are mm will be uh very happy to have a a a nice remote. For the interface uh I think that we can ach achieve uh all the desired functionalities by s just uh using uh rubber buttons, simple buttons and th thus this allow to use a regular chip that are uh well cheaper.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: And s so uh we can move to the next slide.
  Jesse Gaines: Sorry.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: What is this single curved what does it mean?
  Otis Dietrich: Well uh uh i i it's uh it's the the shape of the um
  Jesse Gaines: So it's
  Otis Dietrich: of
  Jesse Gaines: it's
  Otis Dietrich: the
  Jesse Gaines: not
  Otis Dietrich: remote. You you will have the well um the the curve will fit into
  Jesse Gaines: Yo
  Otis Dietrich: your
  Jesse Gaines: l
  Otis Dietrich: hand when you
  Jesse Gaines: yeah. When
  Otis Dietrich: grab
  Jesse Gaines: you hold
  Otis Dietrich: the
  Jesse Gaines: on it, it is comfortable to hold.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah. It's more confog f comfortable that if these
  Jesse Gaines: Okay.
  Otis Dietrich: uh it's completely flat.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. And the battery, is it kind of a rechargeable or it doesn't matter?
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah the um that's the point. The kinetic one is uh y you can recharge uh by the um
  Jesse Gaines: That that's what it means by
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah and
  Jesse Gaines: kinetic.
  Otis Dietrich: by well by just by moving the ar uh
  Jesse Gaines: Okay.
  Otis Dietrich: your arm the
  Jesse Gaines: Mm-hmm.
  Otis Dietrich: mm well the remote will uh accumulate energy.
  Jesse Gaines: Okay.
  Otis Dietrich: But I d I don't know it's if it is feasible because I don't know if yet if
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: if the user will move enough
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: to provide
  Jesse Gaines: Okay.
  Otis Dietrich: the remote um
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: all the necessary energy.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. We we might check with our R_ and D_ department to see if they this product
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: ready
  Otis Dietrich: And
  Jesse Gaines: for market.
  Otis Dietrich: yeah and so can you go to the next slide please. So and uh that's uh that summarize well what I have said.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm mm.
  Otis Dietrich: So
  Jesse Gaines: Wha
  Otis Dietrich: uh you're right we can uh see in our uh R_ and D_ uh
  Jesse Gaines: Ah the department.
  Otis Dietrich: if the kinetic metal is sufficient
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: to provide enough energy. That's it.
  Jesse Gaines: Uh
  Jesse Gaines: So I um keep in touch with the R_ and D_ department.
  Otis Dietrich: Oh yeah I take care, it's all right.
  Jesse Gaines: So the titanium case is the normal case that I'll show you some pictures that I have and you tell Robert Williamson whether they are titanium case or not.
  Otis Dietrich: All
  Jesse Gaines: 'Cause I am
  Otis Dietrich: right.
  Jesse Gaines: not very sure,
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: plastic, titanium or whatever. There's another point I want to make, is that the uh well you've seen them I le na my presentation that um I point out some why buttons are not the mm not the only ways you can use Yeah. Yeah, maybe n
  Michael Lane: We will, okay.
  Michael Lane: Three.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. So the user interface is uh i it uses the aspect uh of a computer system, a programme which can be seen or heard or otherwise perceived by the human user and the commands and mechanism the user uses to control its operation and input data. So you s this gives you the ways to input data and we have uh we are more we emphasise more on the graphical user interface here. The idea is to represent buttons as figures, diagrams, symbols and on so you you can easily when you look at the symbols you understand what it is doing.
  Michael Lane: What's the function of this
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: button.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. So.
  Michael Lane: I think it makes the the interface really
  Jesse Gaines: Ea easy to use. So next one.
  Michael Lane: Graphical user
  Jesse Gaines: function
  Michael Lane: interface.
  Jesse Gaines: five. So I can use the button, the mouse maybe.
  Michael Lane: use of pictures.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. So next line. So the here are some examples. So they cluster the buttons together. They group them into col they colour them and uh they have different forms as well. Mm but this interface are kind of confusing. Uh basically there are too many buttons. Right. Next one.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: So some people are propose voice recognition and so ah by the way I receive an email from the from one our departments saying that the voice recognition has been used in the coffee machine for this by a company when you tell the you say good morning coffee machine and the machine are reply to you.
  Otis Dietrich: Mm-hmm
  Jesse Gaines: So
  Otis Dietrich: mm
  Jesse Gaines: I just
  Otis Dietrich: mm.
  Jesse Gaines: got an email saying that. And it seems like this voice recognition technology is ready to be used so we might consider that,
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Jesse Gaines: supposedly.
  Otis Dietrich: fine.
  Jesse Gaines: The next one. Mm so somebody some people use uh some people use a spinning wheel th with the L_C_ display so instead of using the mm buttons you have a L_C_D_ screen and then there you can u you can use that as buttons, you can use that as real so so that could be an option as well. Touch screen, I mean.
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Next one. And some people propose a scroll button. Integrated with push buttons or you may have scroll button instead of p just the push button. Like the one we have here. Uh, next one. So mm
  Michael Lane: Mm-hmm.
  Jesse Gaines: so there are a few aspects that I collected here. So s basically this deals with special users, children, handicapped people, old people, and uh mm and prog basically they are programmable, specially for children. And uh mm yeah yeah. And then they also secure uh covers, to protect uh secure and hidden programming and battery covers that will protect your settings. So But we don't have to integrate all these complicated features. I'm just saying that the currently in the market there are there are control there are remote controllers f customisable for different people. Yeah, so that's the point. The next one. And uh you see this is the one where you have the protection cover. Mm maybe useful for children, they migh you you they only see the buttons outside. And for adults wh where you have more control you can see the one inside. So the adults might wanna have a key to lock that to pr so children will not touch the button inside.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: S a good idea.
  Jesse Gaines: The next one. So this guy this is another company that provides big buttons. At I see that that is useful for old people and then you don't get it lost. But for our product we don't need a big one because you have voice recognition
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: e eventually with use. And you can call your remote controller if you don't know where it is. T_V_ remote controller where are you? And then, he will beeps and to say that I am here, for example. Is it possible?
  Michael Lane: We should
  Robert Williamson: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: include
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: speech synthesis in this case, no?
  Jesse Gaines: Uh?
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Robert Williamson: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: but uh as Norman say if uh there is uh already a commercial product
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: available who t who do this we we can check uh to integrate
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: it i
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: into our uh new remote control.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. And uh, this is another one where you can uh the the the part that's a V_ standing for the volume. So there's a up arrow and a down arrow. top on the top up arrow if
  Michael Lane: Mm-hmm.
  Jesse Gaines: you up arrow there's a V_ like as as if it's turning down so it's confusing interface, so I
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Jesse Gaines: wanna
  Otis Dietrich: yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: avoid this kind of thing in the design. And here are is uh here is a s short summary that I summary that I compiled after the findings I found. Big buttons are convenient, voice recognition helps, push buttons, scroll buttons, spinning wheels can be used as navigation tools. And uh user customisable is important and finally simplicity simplicity is the key. Yeah. So we have many concepts
  Otis Dietrich: Hmm.
  Jesse Gaines: there but we have to choose later on
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: which ones are important to be used. And basically
  Otis Dietrich: Well I
  Jesse Gaines: uh
  Otis Dietrich: I think you it's it's it's fine you have uh reviewed all all the
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: possibilities but uh uh well uh i if we consider that uh the user interface is displayed on the T_V_ screen
  Jesse Gaines: Mm-hmm.
  Otis Dietrich: I don't think we nee uh we need much buttons in the remote since we
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: we just have to navigate and to have a okay or enter key or
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: things like that, because uh adding wheels or scrolls uh makes the thing more complicated and more
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: expensive also, so.
  Jesse Gaines: Okay.
  Michael Lane: Or maybe we can include the user manual in the in the remote control and we should have just a button like help and you say uh and you ik you press the button help and maybe you see the the user
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: m
  Otis Dietrich: That's
  Michael Lane: might
  Otis Dietrich: a good
  Michael Lane: in
  Otis Dietrich: idea.
  Michael Lane: the in the T_V_.
  Otis Dietrich: To have a help button.
  Jesse Gaines: A help button.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: So you are display on the screen.
  Otis Dietrich: On
  Michael Lane: On
  Jesse Gaines: So
  Otis Dietrich: the T_V_
  Michael Lane: T_V_
  Otis Dietrich: screen. On
  Jesse Gaines: on
  Otis Dietrich: the
  Jesse Gaines: the
  Otis Dietrich: T_V_
  Jesse Gaines: T_V_
  Michael Lane: T_V_
  Jesse Gaines: screen.
  Otis Dietrich: screen
  Michael Lane: screen.
  Otis Dietrich: the
  Michael Lane: So
  Otis Dietrich: uh
  Michael Lane: just you
  Jesse Gaines: Okay.
  Michael Lane: push
  Otis Dietrich: how to
  Michael Lane: the
  Otis Dietrich: use
  Michael Lane: button
  Otis Dietrich: your
  Michael Lane: and
  Otis Dietrich: remote.
  Jesse Gaines: Okay.
  Michael Lane: we will
  Robert Williamson: Oh.
  Jesse Gaines: Okay. So that eliminates all the complicated documentation,
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: okay. So
  Robert Williamson: But
  Jesse Gaines: wi
  Robert Williamson: people are often enough looking at the help, once they see
  Michael Lane: If
  Robert Williamson: the
  Michael Lane: the
  Robert Williamson: help
  Michael Lane: if
  Robert Williamson: button they say oh this is a complicated stuff.
  Michael Lane: No In the case
  Otis Dietrich: Uh
  Michael Lane: where
  Otis Dietrich: yeah.
  Michael Lane: they need help,
  Robert Williamson: It's a psychology.
  Michael Lane: in the case where they need
  Otis Dietrich: In a marketing
  Michael Lane: help.
  Otis Dietrich: point
  Robert Williamson: Okay.
  Otis Dietrich: of view.
  Robert Williamson: And
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: let us see what the market demands. We could
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: just go to my presentation.
  Otis Dietrich: But uh wel well I
  Michael Lane: It's
  Otis Dietrich: think
  Michael Lane: just for user customizable,
  Robert Williamson: Yeah that's
  Michael Lane: for
  Robert Williamson: right.
  Michael Lane: kids or old people.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: I mean
  Michael Lane: So
  Robert Williamson: it just showed us the remote with an cap which could be used for kids and if you remove the
  Michael Lane: So it's the same
  Robert Williamson: Same remote with some
  Michael Lane: Can be used by both
  Robert Williamson: Both
  Michael Lane: kids
  Robert Williamson: yeah.
  Michael Lane: and
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Michael Lane: old people.
  Jesse Gaines: Well uh what I s propose is that uh you know a remote controller, i it could be a cube, is uh a small device that uh looks like a cube and maybe you can just change the um the buttons, if you ch turn one side you get one one buttons, you turn the other side you get the other buttons, so for maybe new generation people who get used to the computer they want lots of controls.
  Michael Lane: Maybe for kids, kids they like uh
  Jesse Gaines: Small
  Michael Lane: t no
  Otis Dietrich: Uh
  Michael Lane: l
  Otis Dietrich: well.
  Michael Lane: they
  Otis Dietrich: So
  Michael Lane: like
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: to
  Otis Dietrich: le le let's see what
  Jesse Gaines: Let's
  Otis Dietrich: uh
  Jesse Gaines: see the
  Otis Dietrich: what
  Jesse Gaines: market demand.
  Otis Dietrich: people
  Robert Williamson: And
  Otis Dietrich: want.
  Robert Williamson: then we
  Jesse Gaines: What
  Robert Williamson: decide what
  Jesse Gaines: what market
  Robert Williamson: what we can
  Jesse Gaines: yes
  Robert Williamson: yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: yes.
  Robert Williamson: So we just made an marketing survey of what people need from our remotes and how it could be special from the other remotes. And we got the best on the responses from the questionnaires. Uh we also have some prizes for the most creative solutions. And we found the following solutions which we could which would be helpful for our design. So seventy percent of the users, they find their remote controls very ugly, they don't find it pleasant to use in the size or usage or anything. And eighty percent of the people they are always l I mean they are willing to spend more money if the remote control would look fancy. And the current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. And seventy five percent of the users said they zap a lot. And fifty
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: percent say they use only ten percent of the buttons,
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: so
  Michael Lane: Mm-hmm.
  Robert Williamson: the rest of the ninety percent of the buttons they're not
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: used most of the times.
  Jesse Gaines: Yes.
  Robert Williamson: So this were the findings which we found. And also they cited frustrations with the present remote controls. Most of fifty percent of the time the remote controls are lost somewhere in the room and people are always searching for them rather than watching the T_V_.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: And by the time they found the remote control the program is finished. So
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: they're frustrated a lot And um if the remote control is too complicated it takes much time to learn the
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: functionality
  Otis Dietrich: Mm, the
  Robert Williamson: of
  Otis Dietrich: functionalities
  Robert Williamson: it.
  Otis Dietrich: yeah.
  Robert Williamson: So you can just see the percentage, fifty percent people they responded that they always lose their remotes and thirty four percent they say that it's quite difficult to learn if it's too complex.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: So keeping in view all these findings and the frustrations I think this should be the solution for them. We should have an L_C_D_ on the rem remote control.
  Jesse Gaines: Oh.
  Otis Dietrich: Well mm w well I I I don't really see the advantage of having uh L_C_D_ on the on the remote control if we have a a
  Jesse Gaines: Big screen.
  Otis Dietrich: a big screen and uh display on the screen. It's
  Robert Williamson: Mm-hmm?
  Otis Dietrich: yeah of course it's fancy trendy and so on but it's it's expensive to produce
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: and it's
  Robert Williamson: I mean
  Otis Dietrich: not
  Robert Williamson: as
  Otis Dietrich: really
  Robert Williamson: our survey says that people are willing to pay more if
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: their remotes are fancy. So if we have a L_C_D_ on the remote, rather than looking onto the T_V_ you just look into a remote and navigate it. It's the same menu
  Jesse Gaines: Mm yeah.
  Robert Williamson: as we have saw that iPod
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Robert Williamson: remote
  Otis Dietrich: yeah.
  Robert Williamson: control.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: We just play
  Jesse Gaines: The thing
  Robert Williamson: around
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah but when you play with the iPod you don't have a big screen in front of you,
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: You can
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: s
  Michael Lane: use this screen instead of the
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: big se screen,
  Jesse Gaines: If
  Michael Lane: instead
  Jesse Gaines: you
  Michael Lane: of
  Jesse Gaines: re-use
  Michael Lane: use
  Jesse Gaines: the
  Michael Lane: the
  Jesse Gaines: existing screen,
  Michael Lane: yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: we element eliminate the L_C_D_, after all the L_C_D_ just to display
  Michael Lane: Hmm.
  Jesse Gaines: and if you have the colourful screen you can make the display colourful, fancy,
  Robert Williamson: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: as fancy as the one on the L_C_D_,
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: maybe even better. So
  Robert Williamson: I mean this were the points
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: which we got from the market
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah. Yeah yeah.
  Robert Williamson: demands. So
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: So I th I I
  Robert Williamson: the other
  Otis Dietrich: think
  Robert Williamson: one
  Otis Dietrich: we we can focus on the uh on the fancy look on the uh
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. More on a fancy
  Robert Williamson: Yeah that's
  Jesse Gaines: design.
  Robert Williamson: fine. Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: on the speech
  Robert Williamson: I mean
  Otis Dietrich: recognition
  Robert Williamson: that's
  Otis Dietrich: if the technology is available but well I think
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: L_C_D_ will uh will uh make us spend a lot of money for
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: not so big results.
  Jesse Gaines: Remember
  Robert Williamson: Mm-hmm.
  Jesse Gaines: we have a s budget
  Michael Lane: But
  Jesse Gaines: for the cost of producing the remote controller.
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: Uh yeah
  Jesse Gaines: So
  Robert Williamson: we
  Jesse Gaines: i
  Robert Williamson: have
  Jesse Gaines: is
  Robert Williamson: uh
  Jesse Gaines: so the thing is you can find out how much an L_C_D_ will cost and then we'll decide again.
  Robert Williamson: I mean that should be found out by the Industrial Designers.
  Jesse Gaines: Uh maybe you can find out the price and tell us next time.
  Otis Dietrich: So
  Jesse Gaines: Is i if
  Otis Dietrich: price
  Jesse Gaines: i
  Otis Dietrich: of uh L_C_D_ display.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: And it's
  Otis Dietrich: And
  Robert Williamson: always good to have an voice recognition
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: for the remote
  Jesse Gaines: And
  Robert Williamson: controls.
  Jesse Gaines: also the cost for the speech recognition.
  Michael Lane: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Ask our R_
  Michael Lane: It's
  Jesse Gaines: and
  Michael Lane: for
  Jesse Gaines: D_ department.
  Michael Lane: it's just for small vocabulary.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: Yeah
  Michael Lane: We
  Robert Williamson: it's o only
  Michael Lane: it's
  Robert Williamson: for
  Michael Lane: not
  Robert Williamson: a limited vocabulary,
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: yeah.
  Robert Williamson: say
  Jesse Gaines: And ho
  Robert Williamson: eighty commands or so.
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah okay.
  Jesse Gaines: And also
  Otis Dietrich: And
  Jesse Gaines: the scroller button, how much will it cost.
  Otis Dietrich: Well uh compared to the to s the simpl simpler
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: simplest
  Robert Williamson: Mm,
  Michael Lane: Push
  Otis Dietrich: button.
  Robert Williamson: the scroll
  Michael Lane: push.
  Robert Williamson: button, from the survey we never see that people would like to have
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: some scrolling button. Because
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah I think
  Robert Williamson: they they
  Otis Dietrich: that
  Robert Williamson: just they're just frightened to use the scrollings
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: or help button.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah I I I think that uh well uh as we have seen in the in the presentation uh well uh about uh uh fifty percent of the of the percent
  Jesse Gaines: Don't use the buttons.
  Otis Dietrich: n choose the button so uh I think to have uh five uh simple
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: button is sufficient
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: for our
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: functionality.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: It doesn't mean that the other buttons are not
  Jesse Gaines: Important.
  Michael Lane: necessary or important.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah. But
  Michael Lane: But they are just less
  Robert Williamson: They're
  Michael Lane: used
  Robert Williamson: not used much.
  Michael Lane: compar yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: But the uh the thing is is i is that we can add a functionality on the on the T_V_ screen like
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: uh a a list of function
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: and then you choose
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: with the with the button to
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah,
  Otis Dietrich: well
  Jesse Gaines: yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: you navigate and you
  Jesse Gaines: So so the at
  Michael Lane: Or
  Jesse Gaines: most
  Michael Lane: maybe we
  Jesse Gaines: more
  Michael Lane: can
  Jesse Gaines: power
  Michael Lane: u
  Jesse Gaines: uh.
  Michael Lane: uh or maybe we can uh make this the ten percent of button more bigger than the others.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: So.
  Otis Dietrich: But if i i if we if we could have a a a display uh g a user interface that is very complete on the T_V_ screen I think that just five buttons are sufficient,
  Jesse Gaines: Yep.
  Otis Dietrich: one to go up left right down and uh enter
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: and you you you just select the functionality you want to access
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: or things like
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: that.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: You don't have to to switch to a channel
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: to another
  Michael Lane: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: uh
  Robert Williamson: Or it could be like this, as the people say, if they have a L_C_D_ on the remote not on the television. Because when you have the L_C_D_ onto the television screen you miss the picture in the background, we are most focused on the commands. So
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Robert Williamson: if you
  Otis Dietrich: but
  Robert Williamson: have then L_C_D_ in the remote, you just have a menu, and increasing and lower these signs here to change the programs and this menu when you press the menu, in the L_C_D_ displays as you go on pressing the menu it faster displays volume, then the program, then the brightness, contrast and all
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: the stuff. And
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Robert Williamson: accordingly
  Otis Dietrich: but
  Robert Williamson: you can just increase or decrease.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: if
  Michael Lane: It's
  Otis Dietrich: you look at the L_C_D_ you you don't look at the T_V_ screen so
  Jesse Gaines: Mm. I if
  Otis Dietrich: i i it's
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: not really worth to get
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: to have the image if you don't look
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: at,
  Michael Lane: And
  Otis Dietrich: so.
  Michael Lane: I think it's increases the cost of the
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: the remote control if you use
  Robert Williamson: Yeah that
  Michael Lane: L_C_D_.
  Robert Williamson: has to be checked out.
  Jesse Gaines: I think that
  Michael Lane: I
  Jesse Gaines: there's no contradiction here, because if there are few buttons, you don't have to look at your your controller any more because you know where the buttons are,
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: so if you wanna control the screen d sh sharpness you just say sharpness and then you t turn you just press lef increase or decrease button and the same for the volume
  Robert Williamson: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: and the channel, if you had the speech recognition there you just shout your channel, just tell your channel and then you don't even have to look at the butto at the controller so finally
  Robert Williamson: Okay.
  Jesse Gaines: that wil eliminates the the need for L_C_D_, with the help of speech recogniser you can
  Robert Williamson: I mean,
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: better if we could just check all the cost with L_C_D_ and also with the speech recognition.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: And then we could find which would
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: would be a more
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: suitable in this case.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. A and
  Robert Williamson: And the third problem was to find the remote control. Always, so fifty percent of the people say they lose the remotes.
  Otis Dietrich: Well so we we can think about a well a a vocal command like uh
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: find and when the remote control uh
  Jesse Gaines: Where,
  Otis Dietrich: hears
  Michael Lane: You will
  Otis Dietrich: fine
  Michael Lane: listen to a peep,
  Otis Dietrich: well
  Michael Lane: special
  Otis Dietrich: yeah
  Jesse Gaines: yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: just
  Michael Lane: peep.
  Otis Dietrich: uh to make him beep
  Robert Williamson: Yeah that's right, that's exactly
  Otis Dietrich: or t
  Robert Williamson: what I mean by voice commander. Or
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: it could be also
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: something like this, uh it's always
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: boring to change the batteries of the remotes control,
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: so we have some one charger there and whenever we don't use the remote control
  Jesse Gaines: Put it back
  Robert Williamson: we put
  Otis Dietrich: Put
  Jesse Gaines: at the
  Robert Williamson: it
  Jesse Gaines: charge.
  Robert Williamson: in the charger.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: And when we're using that t remote and if we misplace somewhere, in the charger we have a small button, and just by pressing the button in the charger the uh remote control beeps,
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: wherever
  Michael Lane: Okay.
  Robert Williamson: it is.
  Otis Dietrich: And that's a good idea, that's simple,
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: I mean
  Otis Dietrich: like
  Robert Williamson: it
  Otis Dietrich: in
  Robert Williamson: doe
  Otis Dietrich: phones.
  Robert Williamson: it also doesn't require a voice command, because
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: there are
  Michael Lane: But
  Robert Williamson: problems
  Michael Lane: you
  Robert Williamson: with
  Michael Lane: don't
  Robert Williamson: a voice
  Michael Lane: you don't
  Robert Williamson: command.
  Michael Lane: have to move
  Jesse Gaines: Hmm.
  Michael Lane: the the charger.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean
  Jesse Gaines: Th
  Robert Williamson: charger
  Michael Lane: You
  Robert Williamson: would
  Michael Lane: have
  Jesse Gaines: yeah.
  Robert Williamson: be
  Michael Lane: to
  Robert Williamson: fixed
  Michael Lane: keep
  Robert Williamson: because it's
  Michael Lane: it.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: always with
  Jesse Gaines: Mm yeah.
  Robert Williamson: electricity plugged.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah if
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: there
  Michael Lane: Okay.
  Otis Dietrich: if there uh there
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: is nuff not enough battery.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm. There's
  Otis Dietrich: Also
  Jesse Gaines: mm.
  Otis Dietrich: and
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: uh uh the remote is lost.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: Yeah that's right.
  Jesse Gaines: That we can what we can do is we can program a function whereby when you press the switch off T_V_ button, the off button, the remote there be s uh instruction on the screen, please charge charge Robert Williamson.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: You never get it lost because uh every time you're off the computer the T_V_ you are asked the the command the T_V_ com remote controller would tell you to put it back to where to the charger.
  Robert Williamson: It's an good reminder,
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: right.
  Jesse Gaines: So you will never get lost
  Otis Dietrich: Okay.
  Jesse Gaines: yeah.
  Michael Lane: Maybe for some people lazy
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: people.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah because everything is programmed inside.
  Michael Lane: Yeah yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: So it's it's uh it's all about strategy, y
  Robert Williamson: And of course the final point is a fancy look.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: As we have seen earlier the remotes which were displayed by
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: Norman they weren't fancy,
  Otis Dietrich: They were ugly.
  Robert Williamson: I mean mm
  Otis Dietrich: They
  Robert Williamson: very
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah,
  Robert Williamson: big or
  Jesse Gaines: yeah.
  Robert Williamson: something
  Michael Lane: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: with lot of buttons. I think we should have something
  Otis Dietrich: Well
  Robert Williamson: it
  Otis Dietrich: the last one with the um
  Jesse Gaines: With uh two two
  Otis Dietrich: yeah with the two parts was
  Jesse Gaines: two parts
  Otis Dietrich: uh
  Jesse Gaines: controller.
  Otis Dietrich: original,
  Robert Williamson: I mean
  Otis Dietrich: so
  Robert Williamson: uh I mean uh I mean uh you see if it's like that even a kid who wants to have a control he could just plug it and
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: use it, you can't avoid him. But you can have an button for child lock.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: So just by pressing the button with
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: some code, you t you put a lock
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: onto the remote,
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: so that he can't use even
  Otis Dietrich: Well
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: we can think about uh having uh on the on the on the user interface when you switch on the T_V_
  Robert Williamson: Mm
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: uh
  Otis Dietrich: you can uh well write a code or choose a category,
  Michael Lane: Or
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: if it is kids, uh
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: things like that.
  Robert Williamson: That's right.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Michael Lane: Or maybe you have to to show some specific programmes for kids and
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Michael Lane: then just
  Jesse Gaines: these
  Michael Lane: just
  Jesse Gaines: are probl
  Michael Lane: yeah
  Jesse Gaines: yeah.
  Michael Lane: just push uh kids button
  Jesse Gaines: Mm. Mm.
  Michael Lane: so it's automatically.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Michael Lane: So if he.
  Robert Williamson: I think these other four points they're the market demands and so it's for the user interface design
  Otis Dietrich: So for
  Robert Williamson: and
  Otis Dietrich: mm
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: industrial
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: design
  Otis Dietrich: yeah.
  Robert Williamson: to
  Otis Dietrich: So
  Robert Williamson: just
  Otis Dietrich: for
  Robert Williamson: think
  Otis Dietrich: my part I will check the prices the um the prices difference uh of what to use, where to use, and s
  Robert Williamson: Yeah
  Otis Dietrich: uh
  Robert Williamson: I think it
  Otis Dietrich: and
  Robert Williamson: should
  Otis Dietrich: so
  Robert Williamson: be clearer
  Otis Dietrich: on.
  Robert Williamson: for us in the next meeting that
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: th uh these could be included.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm. I think we need to define also a s the set of vocabularies for the speech recogniser
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: because uh if you want uh say we can sort by channels or sort by T_V_ programs, you have to decide a category of vocabularies for them. If numbers, they're easy,
  Michael Lane: Mm-hmm.
  Jesse Gaines: but if name the channel by by name
  Otis Dietrich: Well I think we can we can have just numbers for channels and you can say to your remote control like uh sports and then on the T_V_ you have a list with with uh uh well
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: with sports program playing now and
  Robert Williamson: No,
  Otis Dietrich: and uh
  Robert Williamson: we have a problem there. You see uh if you have a voice commands and you are s you are watching a score on uh basketball score or something, and if the score comes twenty four thirty five, you've just say twenty five and
  Michael Lane: Yeah
  Robert Williamson: suddenly
  Michael Lane: it's yeah.
  Robert Williamson: the screen the channel goes to twenty five. So I think
  Otis Dietrich: That's
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: there
  Otis Dietrich: right,
  Robert Williamson: should be
  Otis Dietrich: yeah,
  Robert Williamson: a prefix
  Otis Dietrich: yeah.
  Robert Williamson: to some numbers
  Otis Dietrich: Well but well e every possible word uh has a probability to come about of the T_V_
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: so.
  Robert Williamson: I mean the the you just check all the probability that saying T_V_ twenty five and just ordinary twenty five.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Robert Williamson: Ordinary
  Otis Dietrich: yeah.
  Robert Williamson: twenty five you almost there's a probability of being said
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: but
  Robert Williamson: around sixty
  Otis Dietrich: well
  Robert Williamson: seventy percent
  Otis Dietrich: okay.
  Robert Williamson: and T_V_ twenty five I dunno it will be round
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: about one or two percent.
  Michael Lane: Mm-hmm.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: So it's better to have some prefix before the number.
  Jesse Gaines: But I I I think that the user would like wou would like to associate the channel or call the channel rather than than the numbers.
  Robert Williamson: Yeah something, some code.
  Jesse Gaines: You say numbe channel number five of the T_V_ correspond to something else
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah
  Jesse Gaines: in
  Otis Dietrich: yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: the channel. So some people may want to say, I want to see this
  Otis Dietrich: Mm
  Jesse Gaines: channel.
  Otis Dietrich: mm. Well
  Robert Williamson: That will
  Otis Dietrich: I
  Robert Williamson: be too big. And
  Michael Lane: Or
  Robert Williamson: it will
  Michael Lane: just
  Robert Williamson: be difficult for the vocabulary also.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah. Check with the v R_ and D_ department the
  Michael Lane: It's
  Jesse Gaines: capability
  Michael Lane: difficult
  Jesse Gaines: of
  Michael Lane: to
  Jesse Gaines: recogniser.
  Michael Lane: to just say the the name of the channel.
  Jesse Gaines: Uh?
  Michael Lane: It will be difficult to say just the name of the channel. Because
  Jesse Gaines: Well,
  Michael Lane: you have
  Jesse Gaines: it's
  Michael Lane: to
  Jesse Gaines: convenient
  Michael Lane: s t
  Jesse Gaines: for
  Michael Lane: uh
  Jesse Gaines: the user.
  Michael Lane: a ch yeah but you have to to have all the name of the channel in your vocabulary.
  Robert Williamson: Als might be you just forgot
  Michael Lane: Or maybe
  Robert Williamson: the channel name, you
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: kno only know the number. Then
  Jesse Gaines: The
  Michael Lane: Or maybe
  Jesse Gaines: uh
  Michael Lane: the user
  Jesse Gaines: uh
  Michael Lane: can create
  Jesse Gaines: mm.
  Michael Lane: his own vocabulary,
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Michael Lane: just pronouncing the
  Jesse Gaines: I I think that
  Michael Lane: the
  Jesse Gaines: I
  Michael Lane: name
  Jesse Gaines: have
  Michael Lane: of channels and
  Jesse Gaines: mm
  Michael Lane: include
  Jesse Gaines: mm
  Michael Lane: in the vocabulary.
  Jesse Gaines: I think there's another way you can do is that uh you can uh if when the user ch press a button to choose the channel for example, then what you can do is that the you can make the T_V_ screen to split them into small little little squares of images where you you you have a snapshot of every channel, so let's say it's a four by four matrix of the images, so now what you do is f looking at the all the sixteen channels available at one time, you just use the control button uh, you
  Robert Williamson: Yeah,
  Jesse Gaines: just you
  Robert Williamson: the.
  Jesse Gaines: you just choose the the option you want and then you just hit the button and then you go to that channel. So
  Michael Lane: Or lets the user create his
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Michael Lane: own vocabulary
  Jesse Gaines: So
  Michael Lane: of
  Jesse Gaines: you
  Michael Lane: channel.
  Jesse Gaines: you don't use the speech recogniser in that way.
  Michael Lane: No. Just you have uh in the beginning you have uh t you have to train you have to create the vocabulary
  Jesse Gaines: Oh, okay.
  Michael Lane: by yourself.
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah.
  Otis Dietrich: Well I uh I
  Michael Lane: By
  Otis Dietrich: also
  Michael Lane: associating each channel with the name or
  Otis Dietrich: I I also think about uh another problem, if if there is uh more than one person who is watching T_V_
  Robert Williamson: Yeah
  Otis Dietrich: the
  Michael Lane: And
  Otis Dietrich: s
  Michael Lane: for
  Robert Williamson: yeah,
  Michael Lane: each one
  Otis Dietrich: well
  Michael Lane: has
  Otis Dietrich: the
  Michael Lane: his
  Otis Dietrich: the speech uh
  Michael Lane: own.
  Otis Dietrich: r recogniser should be able to distinguish between the two. Because uh
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: I remember when I was a young child
  Michael Lane: Or
  Otis Dietrich: with
  Michael Lane: you have
  Otis Dietrich: my sister
  Michael Lane: to
  Jesse Gaines: Yeah, I wanna watch
  Robert Williamson: Yeah.
  Michael Lane: s
  Otis Dietrich: we
  Jesse Gaines: this, I wanna watch
  Otis Dietrich: yeah
  Jesse Gaines: that.
  Otis Dietrich: we always want to w to watch different emission at the at the same time so it's a pr it could be a problem if uh if well if someone passes by when you are watching T_V_ and say oh T_V_ thirty and just run,
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: s
  Robert Williamson: A and in the same lines we would have a one more problem. If we are using the television in the different environments, say in the factories or in the shops
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah, yeah.
  Robert Williamson: where there is a lot of noise
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: and this voice commands if they fail to work, that would bring a bad name bad uh reputation
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: for our company. So
  Michael Lane: Mm.
  Robert Williamson: I think we should specify some pre-requirements if we want to use a voice commands, say that it should be used in an silent homely environment or
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: s something.
  Michael Lane: Or we can switch on or switch off the the special,
  Robert Williamson: Yeah that's right that should be an option.
  Michael Lane: yeah.
  Jesse Gaines: Mm.
  Otis Dietrich: Yeah that's well I think that's a good uh a good option because it's simple and uh simple
  Jesse Gaines: Hmm.
  Otis Dietrich: to implement also, so.
  Robert Williamson: I think these are the practical problems. So we need to take care of them in the design.
  Michael Lane: Maybe we'll discuss them in next meeting. It's time to close this meeting.
  Otis Dietrich: Okay.
  Jesse Gaines: Well, you
  Robert Williamson: Okay.
  Jesse Gaines: you stay a five minutes.
  Robert Williamson: Oh it came there on three minutes back
  Michael Lane: Yeah.
  Robert Williamson: so we are I think we can just press the
  Michael Lane: Okay.
  Robert Williamson: okay.
  Otis Dietrich: Okay. So
  Michael Lane: Thanks
  Otis Dietrich: I see
  Michael Lane: for
  Otis Dietrich: ya.
  Robert Williamson: Okay.
  Michael Lane: your collaborations.
  Robert Williamson: See you another thirty minutes.
Updated Content: Otis Dietrich presented options for each component. He suggested kinetic energy, a titanium case, and rubber push buttons. The group will ask if the kinetic energy component can provide enough energy. Jesse Gaines introduced the graphical user interface to the group and suggested using an LCD screen. He presented several existing products and suggested the following: large buttons; voice recognition; either push, scroll, or spinning buttons; and incorporating some customizable components. The group discussed including a help button; it was decided that it would make the device seem more complicated. Robert Williamson presented that users found remotes too easily lost, complicated, and ugly. He showed that users were willing to pay more for a fancy remote. He suggested the LCD screen; the group felt that it was better to utilize the user's television as a display screen, but that they would inquire about cost before deciding. The group will inquire about the cost of voice recognition and scroll buttons. The group discussed incorporating a locator function and customization for children. They discussed the sensitivity of the voice recognizer to other noises; the group will ask about the capability of the recognizer.