Joby Ogwyn, the father of base jumping exclusive interview
BALDWIN: Heart stopping. That is the best way to describe CNN's films "Sunshine Superman." Sunday night you will meet the father of base jumping.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were entirely successful in all our cliff jumps because I feel that we were constantly led by the idea that we were glorifying mankind's beautiful spirit of seeking adventure and that we were within our rights of freedom and dominion over all the earth. There are many manmade laws that aren't laws at all that need to be broken. One is a belief that it's impossible to jump off a cliff.</s>BALDWIN: Joining me now from Orlando high altitude mountain climber Joby Ogwyn, who is also a base jumper, himself. Great to meet you. I lived in West Virginia for a period of time and covered bridge day, any base jumper knows what I'm talking about. Can you tell me why you do this?</s>JOBY OGWYN, HIGH ALTITUDE MOUNTAIN CLIMBER: Well, I think it's trying to make the impossible possible. It's a dream. I think that there's quite a few people around the world that have had the dream of flight and human flight. And it is something that because of technology we have today is attainable if you are willing to risk it.</s>BALDWIN: Have you had any close calls?</s>OGWYN: Man, I have probably worn out my luck jar quite a few times over the years. I have had a lot of close calls in the mountains base jumping, flying wing suits. But the main thing is to learn from thoes close calls and to try to not repeat those mistakes.</s>BALDWIN: Tell me, Joby, tell me about your friend featured in this film, Rick Harrison, and can you talk about his relationship with coral?</s>OGWYN: Yes, I met Rick a number of years ago in China. Actually, we were doing a really big base jumping event there, and Rick was somebody who I had heard about him and knew who he was because he was one of the very first guys ever to make a base jump and was kind of in our world very famous guy. And definitely a little older than me and had incredible stories. And I knew several people that knew Carl and his wife. Rick was one of those people. Guys that were older than me for sure, but were very good friends and jumped. And some of that original group of people that Carl led to places like Yosemite and Europe.</s>BALDWIN: How much training, thought, preparation goes into jumping off a cliff?</s>OGWYN: A lot more preparation and time than people realize. I did it in a very compact way because I did it for a documentary. So I did it in a little bit different way than most people do it. But it's something that you take years of fully dedicated training before you can really feel like you're able to master it and do it to as safe as it possibly can be.</s>BALDWIN: OK. Joby Ogwyn, I'll take your word for it, jumping off the mountain and paragliding as the status close as I choose to go. Thank you so much. Nice to meet you. And for everyone watching don't forget to tune in for "Sunshine Superman," a CNN film this Sunday night 9:00 eastern. Thank you. And thank all of you for watching on this Wednesday. I'm Brooke Baldwin. "The LEAD" with Jake Tapper starts right now.</s>JAKE TAPPER, CNN CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Thanks, Brooke. It turns out Donald Trump after all is the great uniter. "The LEAD" start right now.