More Questions in Van Der Sloot Case
JOY BEHAR, HOST: Tonight, more questions in the Joran Van Der Sloot case. Was his confession coerced? Why did the FBI give him money? And if the money was part of a sting as they claim, why wasn`t he arrested the moment he took it? Then, Debrahlee Lorenzana who said Citibank fired her for being too sexy has gone under the plastic surgeon`s knife four times ready. In Hollywood they call that the Heidi Montag starter kit. Plus: loud, obnoxious, opinionated and with a hair-trigger temper. I`ve known him for 25 years and I`m exhausting. My good friend Lewis Black joins me. That, and more, right now. There are more developments in this terrible Joran Van Der Sloot murder case. There`s talk of a coerced confession and more details have emerged about the extortion case against him. Let`s go right to Lima, Peru and Jean Casarez, correspondent for "In Session" on TruTV. Ok Jean, what`s going on in the case today?</s>JEAN CASAREZ, CORRESPONDENT, "IN SESSION": Well, here`s the latest; two things that we have been able to confirm with law enforcement authorities here in Lima, Peru. First of all, they`re saying that Joran Van Der Sloot does in fact now have legal counsel, a local Lima, Peru private attorney. Now, what I find fascinating about this is that it`s local Lima, which you would suppose, but a private attorney as opposed to a public defender because people that have no money can have public defenders here. A private attorney means money. So I think that`s a development on this front. Now, separate but possibly interactive is that authorities are telling us that the recreation of the crime and how it happened may in fact not happen right here at the hotel. That they have the evidence they need and may not have to go any further. So they wouldn`t come here. They wouldn`t bring Joran Van Der Sloot. And so that`s where it stands now. But we`re still here, because I think in one blink of an eye, something could change. But officially on the record, that`s what they`re telling us.</s>BEHAR: Ok. So they don`t need the re-enactment as far as you know? Good. There`s a report, though that --</s>CASAREZ: They`re saying they may not need it.</s>BEHAR: They may not. Ok. There`s a report that Van Der Sloot`s mother and his Dutch attorney are saying Joran`s confession may have been coerced. He has a Dutch attorney and Peruvian attorney? Is that -- tell me about that.</s>CASAREZ: We`ve confirmed the local Lima, Peruvian attorney. I`ve read reports about the Dutch attorney. My guess is that they have corresponded, they are communicating. I just have -- my gut feeling as an attorney is that Joran`s rights now are being very well communicated to law enforcement, to prosecutors. Remember, we`re still in the criminal investigation. Formal charges have not been filed. They are putting together the evidence that they will then present to prosecutors much like the United States. Ok. You know, there`s something you said to me yesterday, Jean that is bothering me. We saw the footage of Van Der Sloot and this young lady going into the hotel room, and we saw the footage of him coming out of the hotel room, right? But you told me that in between --</s>CASAREZ: Correct.</s>BEHAR: In between those two time periods, Van Der Sloot had left the hotel, gone across the street to a bodega. He came back in to the room and found her on the computer and became violent. Now, why don`t we have footage of him coming back and forth in those two instances?</s>CASAREZ: well, there are several possible reasons. First is that it just wasn`t released. You know, there`s some videotape that I`ve seen here on local television that I haven`t seen in the United States. But I have not seen that. So number one, maybe it wasn`t released. Number two, this is what Joran Van Der Sloot is telling them.</s>BEHAR: Right.</s>CASAREZ: So is that the truth? Well, that`s what he says. You know, I went over to the little market next door, and I asked them, is this where he came to get the coffee? And he said, "Well, yes, that`s what we hear." No one told me they saw him there. But it was open on that Sunday morning. They do sell coffee. They do sell bread.</s>BEHAR: Well, you know, it would behoove him to lie about it. Because he could then say, I went back into the room, she was looking at the computer, she found out that I was involved with Natalee Holloway, and I became angry that she did that, which would lower the charge against him in Peru, because he then would be an angry guy who was defending himself in some weird way that he would come up with, right?</s>CASAREZ: I think you`re exactly right. I think so many things he said are in his interest. So it does make you wonder if in fact it is the truth. You know, joy, what I want to know, I want to know if he got two cups of coffee. That`s a critical issue for the defense. Because if he got two cups of coffee, then he was expecting a wonderful morning, sharing cups of coffee. If you only bought one cup of coffee or none at all, that sets an entirely different stage here.</s>BEHAR: Right. Of course, you know, if he`s a murderer, he`s probably a liar, too. Anyway, let`s go to this extortion idea. The FBI has confirmed that Van Der Sloot was trying t extort $250,000 from Natalee Holloway`s mother. There was an FBI sting operation in Aruba where he was paid $25,000. Why wasn`t this guy arrested?</s>CASAREZ: Well, that`s a good question. My guess is that they were building the case. They probably never dreamed he would go to Peru. They obviously were not watching him well enough, or yet could not stop him at the point. But here`s what`s interesting. We got a-hold of an Interpol document here in Peru, all in Spanish from Washington, D.C. But in reading it, it gives a lot more information. And it says that he himself figured out this scheme in March of this year to get this money from the Holloway family. And he would then tell them where Natalee`s body was and the circumstances. He met with the representative as the FBI is confirming, got $10,000; $15,000 was wired. But here`s what this Interpol document says: that he let authorities to a home in Aruba saying this is where Natalee is because it was being built at the time. We dug a grave, we hid her in this home as it was being built. They found out the dates didn`t coral late. Then the Interpol document says, that he said, "Sorry, I lied." And that`s what just came out to Interpol authorities here.</s>BEHAR: Ok. Thanks very much, Jean, for the reporting. At least one person predicted that Joran Van Der Sloot would confess to killing Stephany Flores. I`m not going to say who it is but he has long blond hair and he likes to hunt fugitives. Watch.</s>DUANE "DOG" CHAPMAN, BOUNTY HUNTER: I think we should give him what he wants, television cameras and what he`s looking for. And get a confession. Now, you tell us the Holloway girl is, you tell us about this girl. We feel sorry for you. You`ve had problems, whatever. I think we can catch -- I think we can get -- this kid will confess, watch.</s>BEHAR: The star of A&E;`s "Dog the Bounty Hunter", Duane "Dog" Chapman is here with me again. You predicted the confession. How did you know he was going to do that?</s>CHAPMAN: Well, Joy -- you know, thank you. I predicted it because I`ve worked chasing these guys for many, many years and they all fit a certain profile. So, well, you know, with his actions before, during and after I thought just a few minutes with cameras, a little bit of nice to this guy, this is the kind of kid you don`t want to water board. The nicer you are to him, the more information you`re going to get.</s>BEHAR: You should work for the FBI and the CIA. Why do you think he confessed? Was it just fear or was he trying to get a lighter sentence or what?</s>CHAPMAN: Well, I think that once he was caught, I think, you know, the cops probably said, here`s what we`ve got. You going in the room; we`ve got evidence. Once he was in the corner, then that was it. Which is this is how these guys are, these serial killers. Once they get caught, and they know for sure they can`t wiggle or lie out of it, it`s over. They flabbergast the investigators with the murder details. They remember everything. So he just fits that pattern.</s>BEHAR: And they soften a guy like that up a little is what you`re saying. You don`t want to be violent or rough with him. That`s interesting.</s>CHAPMAN: No, you don`t --</s>BEHAR: What about the talk that his confession may have been coerced? Do you have any thoughts on that?</s>CHAPMAN: Well, coerced -- yes, coercion by -- I`ve seen it before on television as we all did, before the confession and after, he didn`t even have a cut lip. He wasn`t complaining about being electrocuted or filled with methamphetamine or none of that. He was nice to, he was driven, he was allowed to use the bathroom in the very beginning. He wasn`t even handcuffed.</s>BEHAR: Yes.</s>CHAPMAN: I think they treated him with respect. And he was -- this time he was caught.</s>BEHAR: Yes. But he also -- he told his mother, I`m being interrogated in a very rude way. Excuse me, you`re a murder suspect, right? Where does he come off with that one?</s>CHAPMAN: Well, you know, I think that rude was like, no, you can`t have that right now. Rude -- I think he would have said, mom, they`re beating me up. You know, they`re holding me underwater. I think he would have came out with, mom, they`re being rude to me. Well, you know, you just committed a murder and these are real cops. They`re not going to be Mr. Green Jeans to you.</s>BEHAR: What a little jerk he is. At the end of the day he`s a mama`s boy on top of it. Now, the --</s>CHAPMAN: True.</s>BEHAR: You know. All right. I think we`ve run out of time. Thank you. Always interesting to talk to you and you`re very good at your job.</s>CHAPMAN: Thank you Joy.</s>BEHAR: Ok. "Dog" has upcoming speaking engagements and if you want to learn more, you can find dates at dogthebountyhunter.com. Up next, controversy is brewing over Gary Coleman will and photos of him in his final moments. I`ll have the latest in just a minute.