Reduced NATO Aid; More Effective Flu Shots.
CAMEROTA: President Trump heads to London on Monday for the annual NATO Summit. The trip comes just days after the NATO secretary-general announced the United States will give less money to the alliance.</s>JENS STOLTENBERG, NATO SECRETARY-GENERAL: The U.S. will pay less. Germany will pay more. So now the U.S. and Germany will pay the same, roughly 16 percent, of NATO's</s>CAMEROTA: Joining us now, CNN global affairs analyst Susan Glasser. She's a staff writer at "The New Yorker." Good morning, Susan.</s>SUSAN GLASSER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Good morning. How are you?</s>CAMEROTA: I'm doing well. So tell us the significance of lowering the U.S. investment from, I think, 22 percent to 16 percent, something that President Trump has long talked about wanting to do.</s>GLASSER: Those words</s>CAMEROTA: As you say, other leaders seem nervous, including close friend and ally Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Here's what he has just said, which seems to be a message directly to President Trump. Listen to this.</s>BORIS JOHNSON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: What we don't do, traditionally, as loving allies and friends --</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He did. He did.</s>JOHNSON: What we don't do traditionally is get involved in each other's election campaigns.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, but he did.</s>JOHNSON: The best -- when you have close friends and allays, like the U.S. and the U.K., the best thing is not --</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right.</s>JOHNSON: Is for -- for either -- for neither side to get involved in each other's --</s>CAMEROTA: OK, so election day is December 12th. Neither side should get involved, as you heard the prime minister say there. How did you hear that?</s>GLASSER: Well, look, President Trump is very unpopular in the U.K. and he actually is coming to this meeting in London right in the middle of the height of this heated election campaign. And so I think Johnson is worried in the past President Trump has directly intervened. He went to London and his predecessor, Prime Minister Theresa May, Trump insulted her in an interview. In the past, Trump has been complimentary of Boris Johnson, but he's also phrased his pro -- even more pro-Brexit rival, Nigel Farage. And I imagine that Johnson is just worried about President Trump's unpopularity in London and not wanting either too much of an embrace or an insult.</s>CAMEROTA: There's all sorts of tension, I mean, for this London trip. You know, even with the royal family. You know, the Duchess of Sussex, Meghan Markle, has, I guess, announced that she will not be showing up.</s>GLASSER: Well, you know, Trump seemed dazzled -- absolutely dazzled when he was accorded the honor of a state visit by Queen Elizabeth and, you know, he had a state dinner, he brought his family with him, a large number of his family. But, of course, also London's crowded mobbed with protesters against the president. The famous baby Trump balloon. So it's a very volatile moment to be having this meeting there, both within the NATO alliance and with this really crucial British prime minister's election happening at the exact same moment. It's December 12th is when it's happening.</s>CAMEROTA: Let's talk about what's happening with China and with the possible trade deal. So, as you know, President Trump signed this Hong Kong Human Rights Act that Congress had sent to his desk. Now what? Does China have much leverage in this -- whatever happens next in these next negotiations?</s>GLASSER: Well, it's interesting. You know, President Trump had sort of played -- danced around whether he was going to support it or not. But it was produced by an overwhelming bipartisan majority in both the U.S. House and Senate in a way that would have made it veto proof. Trump chose not essentially to have a confrontation with Congress and opted for the confrontation of China. However, it's not clear, you know, how much it means more than a symbolic way. There are sanctions that would be put on Chinese officials and the like. China has said that it will retaliate. The timing here, obviously, is right in the midst of once again trying to produce an actual trade accord -- round one trade agreement is what they're calling it with the Chinese right now. You know, that has been a very elusive deal with the president's re-election year of 2020 moving ever closer. You got to wonder whether Trump sees this himself as some sort of leverage in his talks. But, remember, he's not exactly been a human rights president. I don't think anyone thinks this is Trump's own foreign policy in this bill, but reflective more of the U.S. political consensus. He himself reportedly told Xi that he would not make too big of an issue. Whenever he mentions Hong Kong, he has said things that were supportive of the protesters, but at the same time he's also said essentially Xi is a very great man, he's a very strong leader, things like that, which have been very complimentary of the Chinese leader. So, you know, it's hard to see that this is Trump's own policy in effect here. I don't know what his is, by the way.</s>CAMEROTA: Susan Glasser, thank you, as always, for all of the analysis. Great to talk to you.</s>GLASSER: Thank you.</s>AVLON: All right, and the flu season arrived early this year. Experts predict it could be a rough one and they're urging everyone to get a flu shot, even though their effectiveness is coming under new scrutiny. CNN's Elizabeth Cohen here with more on our efforts to improve the vaccine. What's up?</s>ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the flu shot that we get every year may soon become a thing of the past as scientists work on a better flu shot.</s>COHEN (voice over): Two-year-old Jude Mcgee (ph), 26-year-old newlywed Katie McQuestion (ph), Giana Cabaseg (ph), a four-year-old little girl.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her heart stopped beating.</s>COHEN: They all died of the flu and they'd all had flu shots.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just relax your arm. No, relax your arm. You're OK. Done. Look at that.</s>COHEN: There's no question you should get a flu shot. Last flu season, the flu killed at least 36,000 people. So this shot could literally save your life. But it's far from perfect.</s>DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: Even on a good year, influenza effectiveness of the vaccine is about 60 percent. On a bad year, it's as low as 10 percent.</s>COHEN: Do we need to make a better flu vaccine?</s>FAUCI: You know, we really absolutely do.</s>COHEN: In September, President Trump signed an executive order noting that the current system for making flu shots has critical shortcomings. The order pledges to modernize the process. The first step, stop using eggs to make flu vaccine. They grow the virus in the eggs, like the eggs you eat for breakfast, and then they kill the virus and put it in a vaccine. But sometimes the virus changes inside the egg, so it doesn't end up matching the flu that's out there spreading among people. That's why some companies, like this one, have figured out ways to grow the flu virus without using eggs.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right here we have the cells growing the virus. The virus stays the same. And when you make the vaccine, it looks closer to what's in the wild.</s>COHEN (on camera): So no eggs here anywhere?</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No eggs here anywhere.</s>COHEN (voice over): Trump's executive order is designed to encourage more of this technology and something even bigger. Something researchers have been working on for years. A flu vaccine you would get only once in your life instead of once every year. Karen Crany (ph) is one of the first people in the world to get what's called the universal flu shot as part of a study at the National Institutes of Health.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Invert five times.</s>COHEN: The shot is prepped and medical history is made. A universal flu shot is at least a decade away.</s>FAUCI: Well, it's complicated. It's not going to be easy. But we're starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.</s>COHEN: So, for now, get your regular flu shot to protect yourself and everyone around you, while we wait for something even better.</s>COHEN: Just to reiterate that point, even though the flu shot isn't perfect, you should still get it. It saves millions of people from getting the flu every year. It saves lives. It could save your life or your child's life. So still get the flu shot even though it's imperfect.</s>AVLON: Absolutely. A universal flu shot.</s>COHEN: It would be a cool thing.</s>AVLON: Amazing.</s>CAMEROTA: Thank you, Elizabeth.</s>AVLON: Thank you.</s>CAMEROTA: All right, President Trump has just arrived back in the United States after his surprise trip to Afghanistan. And NEW DAY continues right now.</s>ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Alisyn Camerota and John Berman.</s>CAMEROTA: OK, we want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world. This is NEW DAY. John Berman is off this morning. John Avalon is here. Great to have you.</s>AVLON: Good morning.</s>CAMEROTA: So we're looking at a live shot right now. President Trump has just arrived back in Florida after making this surprise trip to visit the troops in Afghanistan for Thanksgiving. There's the plane right there on the tarmac. It has just landed in West Palm Beach Airport. He says -- the president says he is reopening peace talks with the Taliban, which you'll remember he broke off less than three months ago.</s>AVLON: Now, President Trump served Thanksgiving meals to the troops. END