CNN/ORC Poll: Dissatisfied Voters Backing Trump
CUOMO: A brand-new CNN poll shows Donald Trump the clear Republican frontrunner. But, it is not just that fact. It's not just these numbers. It's why. His shocking relevance now has context, as does the challenge for who is going to be the nest president, and what they need to do to win. Let's discuss. Patti Solis Doyle, CNN political commentator, former Hillary Clinton campaign manager, Matt Schlapp, a former political director for George W. Bush, now chairman of the American Conservative Union.</s>MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning.</s>CUOMO: Matt, when you look at this, the concern would be within the GOP, that you, as a party, have been pushing things are wrong. You should be mad at it. And now, Donald Trump has taken that mantle and is turning it back on the party to a certain extent. Do you agree? And if so, what's the remedy?</s>MATT SCHLAPP, CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION: Yes, I think I agree with that. There's no question there's an angst out there. Obama has brought a lot of change to the country. Quite frankly, Republicans and conservatives don't like it but threaten by it, and they want to stop it. Donald Trump has stepped up and seized the moment. Quite frankly, I think it's refreshing. I think it's good for our party. I think it's good to have a candidate that reaches beyond our normal coalition. He doesn't talk like a politician. He and Carly Fiorina and Ben Carson, they've never had elected office, never held office. You know, I think this is a great dynamic. We're going to have to see how it plays out. But, right now, I'm pretty happy about it.</s>PEREIRA: He seems pretty happy about it. How about you, Patty, how about you? As a Democrat, I imagine you've got to love watching it unfold within the GOP. Yet, when you look at that, 30 percent say the government in Washington represents your views well. Do you think the Democrats are paying attention to that poll and trying to figure out how they can speak to a growing number of people that are discontent in this country?</s>PATTI SOLIS DOYLE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, look, as a Democrat, I'm definitely happy with Donald Trump and his performance, because ultimately, I don't think Donald Trump is electable. So, I would love to see him as a Republican nominee. But I think, we are missing from Trump is the policy details. I mean, he's -- I agree with Matt, he's great at, you know, bringing up the problems, the issues that concern Americans, but the devil is in the details. He hasn't given us any policy, any ideas on how to solve this.</s>CUOMO: Patti, that's not the measure for him. Isn't that -- isn't that the kind of takeaway that we figure out here? It doesn't matter what he says about POWs. His negative, put up the numbers of his negatives. His numbers are off the chart how high they are in terms of his unfavorables. It's built into who he is. People aren't looking to him for answers. They're looking to him as the champion because they don't see anybody on your side with Hillary or even Bernie, although, there's a little bit of promise for Bernie growing a little bit there against Hillary. But isn't that part of the problem here, Patti, is that you're not giving them anything? The measure of Trump is not whether or not he's got the answers.</s>DOYLE: I agree with you. But take it back to the Democratic side. Hillary is giving answers. She's given a huge, broad, economic speech. She's giving a speech today on climate change and renewable energy. She's talked about immigration reform, and she's following up with solid, specific ideas on how to solve these issues for the American people. And I think as the election goes on, Americans are going to stop and say, OK, who am I going to vote for? Am I going to vote for someone with these very bombastic remarks? Or am I going to vote for someone --</s>CUOMO: But she represents what's fueling Trump.</s>SCHLAPP: That's right.</s>CUOMO: The untrustworthiness, the sneaky email allegations. All those things. Matt --</s>SCHLAPP: Look, you said Trump has sky high negatives. Do you know who the other person who's in that neighborhood? Hillary Clinton. And the fact is, is that they can try to dismiss Donald Trump over those numbers. He shouldn't be giving us all the detailed policies now. That's next step.</s>PEREIRA: OK, but, Matt, fair point. That's the next step.</s>SCHLAPP: That's right.</s>PEREIRA: But past the bombastic, which we know he excels at. Do we know that he that has devil in those details? We talk about the devil on the details.</s>SCHLAPP: No.</s>PEREIRA: We don't know that. That's why I think --</s>CUOMO: He just said no.</s>SCHLAPP: No, hold on.</s>CUOMO: OK, go ahead. Go ahead.</s>SCHLAPP: We don't know. And this is the great process of running for president. We are going to find out what he thinks about these issues. He's going to have plans. You are not going to pass muster with the voters unless you give them policy details. And that's what this whole conversation is going to be about in the Republican Party. But look at Hillary Clinton. The more detail she gives and the more people see of her, the less they like her and the more Bernie Sanders surges in these polls.</s>PEREIRA: Less is more, you are saying?</s>SCHLAPP: With her, less is more.</s>CUOMO: But also, it's what he speaks to. I just got a tweet while having this conversation. We are sick of the lying, cheating, do nothing career politician. That's the message they all better get. Listen to what Donald Trump just said about Hillary Clinton.</s>DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: With Hillary, I think I'll beat Hillary easily. I think I will beat Hillary, I don't think these other guys will. What she's done is criminal. I mean, what she has done is criminal. What she did is far worse than what General Petraeus did and he's gone down in disgrace. I mean, you know, what he did is not as bad as what Hillary Clinton did and it's similar, but it's not as bad. I mean, she got rid of her server. He never did anything like that.</s>CUOMO: Obviously, the Petraeus reference there is to classified materials. You know, her trustworthy numbers, as you know, Patti, have been taking a beating. Is that one issue enough to beat her?</s>DOYLE: Well, look, I think she started sky high when she was secretary of state. So, it's only natural some of the numbers go down for her. But, look, she has said -- first of all, let's talk about Donald Trump. He says it's criminal. We now know it's not a criminal. It's not a criminal investigation. So, let's get that out there first and foremost. Secondly, she has given over 55,000 pages of e-mails. She has said repeatedly that when they were sent and received, none of them were marked as classified. She's going to testify in front of the Benghazi committee in October. I think she's answering all the questions. And again, it's still early. As we go on, voters are smart enough to know and want to go back to the details. Are they going to elect someone who can actually solve our concerns and can give us some ideas about the issues that concern Americans like education and the economy or are they going to go with someone who just has bombastic, caustic headline-grabbing remarks?</s>PEREIRA: Patti, we have to leave it there. Thanks for joining us. Patti Solis Doyle, Matt Schlapp, great to have you on</s>NEW DAY. DOYLE: Thank you, guys.</s>CUOMO: What do you think? What's on your tweet on the situation? Use the #NewDayCNN or post your comment on Facebook.com/NewDay. So, now, coming up next hour, we're going to have one of Trump's confidants, a big shot in his organization. He's going to come in and he's going to tell you why Trump is making a difference and he'll make a difference in this country. We're also going to talk to supporters of Trump supporters about why he is their pick.</s>PEREIRA: Very interesting to hear that kind of insight. Also, new details are emerging about the Louisiana movie theater shooting and the gunman's possible motive. Ahead, we will speak to the mayor of Lafayette who knew both of those women that were killed and the impact of this strategy on the city.