New Details on Dramatic Abduction
DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST (voice-over): Tonight, new information in the dramatic rescue of a woman, her violent abduction caught on tape.</s>POLICE: We never know who is living amongst us.</s>PINSKY: Why police are calling this man a vicious predator. Also, a former NFL cheerleader accused of having sex with a teenage boy. The behavior bureau looks at claims she flirted with him on Instagram and took him to her beach house. Let`s get started.</s>PINSKY: Good evening. My co-host is Samantha Schacher. We`re here with this evening. Coming up, a mom who shaved her kid`s head as a punishment, Sam.</s>SAM SCHACHER, CO-HOST: That`s right, Dr. Drew. And this is our most tweeted about story of the day. Later, we`re actually going to hear from the mom`s sister.</s>PINSKY: All right. But, first up, we are talking about that Philadelphia woman whose kidnapping was all caught on camera. She`s been found alive, the suspect in custody. Have a look.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Carlesha Freeland has been rescued. Her abductor arrested.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A Philadelphia kidnapped on Sunday now found alive.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thanks to a tip and a GPS on the suspect`s car.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When Carlesha was grabbed and thrown in that car, she fought like hell.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She tries to walk away when the man grabs her and aggressively grabs her down the length of this block.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`ve been on the job 46 years. First time I`ve ever seen a kidnapping on videotape. We were able to locate some video from a convenience store.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, when police realized they were looking for Devlin Barnes, they were able to trace using his</s>GPS. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I buy a car and now the dealer can put this GPS on my car and track me.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is it legal to put these GPS devices on cars?</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When the subject exited the vehicle, he was apprehended. And that`s when Ms. Freeland was recovered.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can tell she was emotionally distraught. So, as a result, we took her immediately to the hospital.</s>PINSKY: Sam, I`m going to bring the panel in on a second. But why do people -- why are people disturbed by having a GPS on a car if they are going to make their payments and not be of any concern to anyone, why get upset about that?</s>SCHACHER: I think people think it`s invasive, though, Dr. Drew.</s>PINSKY: It is invasive. So pay your bills.</s>SCHACHER: Right, I agree.</s>PINSKY: Don`t kidnap people.</s>SCHACHER: Right.</s>PINSKY: All right. Thank God there was something on that car. Let`s talk to the panel. I`ve got Kayleigh McEnany, political commentator, Mark Eiglarsh from SpeaktoMark.com, Anahita Sedaghatfar from AnahitaLaw.com. So, Sam, let`s go through it again. How did the police get this guy?</s>SCHACHER: Oh, thank God they found him. First, the police released the abduction video to the public, right? Then the suspect has the audacity to use the victim`s ATM card 75 miles away and caught on video again. The video was released of the suspect at the convenience store. Then, the person who sold the suspect his car recognizes him, calls the police. Police were able to track the car because the dealer had installed that GPS device on it because Barnes had such bad credit and it would make it easier to repossess it if need.</s>PINSKY: Now, this guy already was a wanted man in Virginia. You got to hear this story. I want to share this story with the audience. Mark and Anahita, my attorneys, stand by and tell me how you allow a guy like this to go out of prison. What`s wrong with our system? He allegedly kidnapped a 16-year-old girl by hitting her head with a shovel. Police say he then stuffed her in the trunk of the car, raped her, doused her with bleach and gasoline, set her on fire and dug a hole and said, quote, how do you want to die? Amazingly, this girl managed to escape, she ran two miles through the woods to a local business and police just revealed some new details about the incident just moments ago. Take a look.</s>POLICE: The victim had very traumatic injuries. He showed her a bunch of pictures of females and told her he had done this to them before. I think she said something that she was in imminent danger. She was doused in gasoline and bleach. She said she had never seen that guy before the incident occurred. She stayed with her family in the hospital apparently doing rehab, and she`s doing well.</s>PINSKY: One of his victims. Now, there`s more on this guy`s rap sheet. He has 45 pages of over 90 previous offenses, including rape, robbery, assault. I mean, Mark, how does anybody defend this guy?</s>MARK EIGLARSH, ATTORNEY: OK. Merely because someone`s been arrested doesn`t mean they`ve done anything. And I`m not suggesting he`s choir boy. What I`m suggesting is, you can`t throw him into prison unless you have a conviction. And I would like to go through each one of those and I might be able to explain.</s>PINSKY: Hold on, hold on. I am going to get my producers to fax them over to you so you can go through each one of them. They`re outrageous.</s>ANAHITA SEDAGHATFAR, ATTORNEY: He`s right, Dr. Drew. Mark is absolutely right, that what I was telling you earlier when talking about this case. That doesn`t mean he was necessarily convicted of all of those crimes. I think a lot of those were misdemeanors. The issue I have is when people ask me, as a defense attorney, how can it be that these career criminals are on the street? Well. I can only surmise he did the crime, he served his time. If people had been issue and they want tougher sentencing, they want stricter rules, then you go to your legislature, but you don`t question defense attorneys as to where these career criminals are out.</s>PINSKY: Mark?</s>EIGLARSH: One other thing as we discussed during other cases, the question is, did prosecutors have sufficient evidence? Maybe he was accused of something heinous, but you have a reluctant victim, the bus load of nuns didn`t show up to testify at trial, so you have a weak case and they`re forced to give him credit for time he served.</s>PINSKY: He spent nine years in jail for beating his ex-wife. Kayleigh McEnany, help me out with this.</s>PINSKY: Go ahead.</s>KAYLEIGH MCENANY: I completely get what you`re saying. If you have a problem, you have to go to the state legislature, we have to go through the proper criminal justice system. If this guy does the time, it`s something that has to be taken up with the legislature. However, I agree with what you`re saying. He doused his prior victim in chemicals. She had bad burns all over her. It`s disgusting that this was allowed to happen again. It`s something that needs to be addressed, but it does need to be addressed in the legislature.</s>SCHACHER: Right.</s>PINSKY: Sam --</s>SCHACHER: Yes. What, Dr. Drew?</s>PINSKY: I get overwhelmed when I hear these outlandish, repetitive criminal behaviors and somebody doesn`t do something of a more longer term nature.</s>SCHACHER: Right. And he shouldn`t be on the streets. And here`s the thing, can you imagine if that man wasn`t caught on camera or if that GPS device wasn`t in that car, what would have happened to that girl? So, you`re right. And, Anahita, do you know, or Mark, either one of you, do you know what his terms were for probation which after he was released from jail? How does that work? Was there any other offenses that slid by?</s>PINSKY: Anahita, you know?</s>SEDAGHATFAR: I don`t know, Dr. Drew. I just took a quick glance at the arrest.</s>PINSKY: All right. Look, I`m just -- this whole thing is very, very disturbing. What we had to witness what this girl went through, it`s unconscionable. This shouldn`t be happening. What, Mark?</s>EIGLARSH: There`s only one positive. There`s one positive. The only positive is that every teenage girl should be forced to watch this video, and show how easy it to for these predators to be able to get you in a place that you don`t want to be.</s>PINSKY: And I`m going to say something else here, you saw on the tape coming into this episode, a career police officer saying he`s never witnessed a kidnapping, and here we have video of it now. Thank God there`s videos on every corner. Thank God the law -- the used car sales company that sold this guy a car put a GPS device on it. Let`s embrace the fact that there`s a lot of monitoring going on.</s>SEDAGHATFAR: Wow, wow!</s>PINSKY: Hey, Anahita, if you have nothing to hide, why do you care?</s>SEDAGHATFAR: That is not the right argument to make, Dr. Drew. I`m still -- I`m torn. I don`t know if I like the idea of big brother being able to track me and follow me around when they don`t have anything like reasonable suspicion.</s>PINSKY: And, Kayleigh, all I hear her saying is I do things of a reasonable -- of problematic nature when somebody says that.</s>SEDAGHATFAR: Oh, you know me, Dr. Drew. I belong in jail.</s>PINSKY: But, Kayleigh, what do you say? Then I got to go.</s>MCENANY: Anahita, I have to say, you`re absolutely wrong on this. This girl is alive and she`s well and she`s at home for one reason, it`s because of surveillance, it`s because there are cameras on the street, it`s because there was a GPS system on this man`s car. Surveillance works, it saves lives. Worked in the London bombings, worked here, it works.</s>SEDAGHATFAR: It`s a slippery slope, Dr. Drew.</s>PINSKY: The Boston bombing, yes.</s>SCHACHER: I knew she would say slippery slope, Dr. Drew. Your favorite term.</s>PINSKY: Keep an eye on that one, Sam. Whenever you hear someone say slippery slope, you know they went to law school.</s>PINSKY: Next up, I`m going to speak to the uncle of the kidnapping suspect. Plus, the behavior bureau will assemble. And later, the NFL`s oldest cheerleader is accused of sex crimes against a teenaged boy. Back after this.