China's Capital Put on Soft Lockdown; Dreamers Celebrate Supreme Court Ruling; U.S. Supreme Court Blocks President Trump From Ending DACA; U.S. 2020 Election, Facebook Takes Down Trump Ads That Had Nazi-Style Symbol; Twitter Labels Tweeted Trump Video Manipulated Media; China Charges Two Canadians With Spying; Hong Kong Dissident Seeks Asylum In The U.K.; Former Hong Kong Dissident Warns Of A Cold War With China
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), SENATE MINORITY LEADER: Let them love, let them join the armed forces, let them go to college, let them become the great Americans that we know they will. I saw so many DACA kids and adults, on the front lines during the covid crisis in New York. Risking their lives for other people. They are what America is all about. The American tradition has always been to believe in immigration, and to believe in immigrants. And most Americans still do.</s>CHURCH: U.S. Senate minority leader, Chuck Schumer there, hailing Thursday's Supreme Court ruling, which for now, blocks the Trump administration from ending DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program. Chief Justice John Roberts, wrote for the majority in the 5-4 decision. It protects 700,000 so-called Dreamers from deportation. People who arrived in the U.S. as children and as undocumented migrants. The ruling says the administration failed to provide an adequate reason to end the program. Dreamers were delighted.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was like, oh my God, I was so excited. I cried a little bit.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What just happened? Literally, for me, that was my reaction.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm in shock. I had prepared myself for every decision, except for a positive one.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, it's so difficult to put into words, just the feeling of relief, for the past three years, we have seen the Trump administration take action, over action over action and try to deport immigrants including DACA recipients. And I think if you cannot celebrate the fact that 800,000 people are here, with their families, and that we have the opportunity to remain united with our parents and with our friends, and with our communities, in a place that we grew up. If you disagree with that then, that is not the kind of leadership I think that we need in this country.</s>CHURCH: The majority opinion sends the case back down to the lower courts, which might not be able to deal with the case until after the U.S. election in November. Well, Facebook has removed ads from President Trump's reelection campaign, for violating, what the company says, is its policy on organized hate. The ads, featured an upside down red triangle, which the Trump campaign, claims, is used by Antifa, the far left anti- fascist group targeted in the ads. The anti-defamation league says, the symbol is similar to ones that the Nazis used to classify political prisoners in concentration camps. The ADL says some Antifa activists have used the symbol, but it is not particularly common. Facebook was criticized, last month, for failing to take action on Trump's posts. That Twitter had flagged for glorifying violence. CNN's business anchor, John Defterios, has been following this story and joins me now, live, with more. So John, what more are you learning about Facebook taking down Trump ads for violating policy against organized hate?</s>JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN EMERGING MARKETS EDITOR: Well, we have learned that Mark Zuckerberg, Rosemary, can no longer sit on the sidelines. This use of this upside down triangle, the red triangle cross an internal red line for Facebook. And as you suggested there in your lead in, we have to go back to June 1st, and a virtual, internal, town hall, where we had some Facebook employees show off that they do not like this position by Zuckerberg himself. They want him to get more involved. Others, just didn't show up at all. And this followed a call that Mark Zuckerberg had with Donald Trump, where the transcript was not released. So, you can see the dynamics here within the company. This is from the Trump fund-raising group here which raises the questions about the internal ad policy of Facebook and to be clear Rosemary, that ad that actually had the symbol on it was pulled off after 24 hours, but there are several reports suggesting that there are two additional ads within Facebook, that are still running from the Trump organizing committee. And again, because of the reach of Facebook, 2.6 million users, better than a third of the global population, this is going to start bringing to the for the ad policy from Facebook. When do they decide to reject, and what crosses the line, like we saw this time around? Is it just a symbol, or will they be more aggressive as we get closer to the November campaign here, or November election?</s>CHURCH: Indeed. And John, Twitter has kept the pressure on the president when it comes to misinformation, flagging one of his tweets as manipulated media. What can you tell us about that?</s>DEFTERIOS: Well, I don't want to say third time is a charm, but this is the third time that Twitter has intervened against the president in over a month now. And this is under the label of manipulated media. The Trump retweet of the video, used a fake CNN graphics, so it is targeted at us, and suggested that America is not the problem, fake news is. This not surprisingly encouraged a very firm reply from CNN itself. And then Jack Dorsey, the CEO, who's been very aggressive against the Trump campaign and his team, taking his action going forward. Now, you know, remember, that the Trump campaign put forward, not just these ads and the manipulation of this effort, but also, an executive order by Trump himself, wanting to intervene on social media. And this prompted a reply from the federal communications commission, which is regulated in the states, and they said, the decision is ours alone. So, you have an executive order, but no action by the Trump government itself, the independent regulator.</s>CHURCH: John Defterios, thank you so much for your insight, always appreciate it. Well, a disturbing development out of Beijing in the past few hours. Chinese prosecutors now a formally charge two Canadian citizens with spying. Canada says, China targeted former diplomat, Michael Kovrig, and businessmen Michael Spavor, in retaliation after Canada arrested the CEO of electronic giant Huawei in late 2018. The two Canadians have been imprisoned in China for a year and a half. Meantime, just a little while ago in Australia Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced his country is grappling with massive cyberattacks from what he calls, a malicious and sophisticated state based actor. And CNN's Nic Robertson, joins us now to talk about this, plus an interview, he's down with a former employee at the British consulate in Hong Kong, who is asking for asylum in the United Kingdom. Nic, a lot to cover here. Let's start with the interview you did with Simon Cheng. What all did he tell you?</s>NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Well, he was an employee of the British consulate in Hong Kong in had gone out for personal reasons to join the protests, the street demonstrations last year. And the British consulate, members of the British consulate asked him to report back and let them know what he saw when he was on a business trip for the British consulate mainland China not long after, when he was picked up by Chinese security forces. I asked him about his treatment at their hands, and the British government, in its most recent report, just less than a week ago on Hong Kong said that it amounted to Chinese amounted to torture. China has rejected that. Simon Cheng, told us what he experienced.</s>SIMON CHENG, FORMER UK CONSULATE WORKER IN HONG KONG: They asked lots of political questions. What is my role in the protests? What is the U.K.'s role behind the protests? They hung me up, and then I had been put at -- shackled, handcuffed, and blindfolded.</s>ROBERTSON: Did you ever believe that something like that, as a Hong Kong citizen, could happen to you at the hands of the Chinese state authorities?</s>CHENG: At that time, I can't imagine. And let alone that I worked for the British consulate, and I worked on a business trip, I can't imagine that.</s>ROBERTSON: Did you have any regrets about that?</s>CHENG: I have no regrets.</s>ROBERTSON: Why not?</s>CHENG: Because at that time, I think that I -- as a Hong Kong citizens, I wanted to left the British (inaudible) know about the voice of Hong Kong people, why those protester and (inaudible).</s>ROBERTSON: But this has completely change your life now.</s>CHENG: Yes, exactly. But, I live up to the principle. I stand for democracy, so, I do believe what I did was right.</s>ROBERTSON: Could you go back to Hong Kong now?</s>CHENG: No, I can't.</s>ROBERTSON: Why not?</s>CHENG: Because previously, that was when I was let out, the prerequisite is that I had to promise that I can't and I wouldn't speak out. But, I broke the promise, I spoke out. So, the retaliation would be that once I'm back to Hong Kong, they would've secretly attack me from Hong Kong, to mainland China, and I would not have a second chance. I do believe that if I was detained again, I wouldn't have a chance to go out.</s>ROBERTSON: You are in the U.K. now, you are trying to get asylum, what is happening?</s>CHENG: I've been experienced two rounds of interviews and very meticulous and rigorous, interviews. And now, I am waiting for the results.</s>ROBERTSON: Do you feel that the British government, because of what they have asked you to do and the trouble they got you, and that they owe you asylum?</s>CHENG: I do think that's the U.K. government need to take a kind of responsibility.</s>ROBERTSON: The British government is offering the holders of British national overseas passports, the possibility to come to the U.K., for an extended period. Is that the right thing to be doing? Should all Hongkongers, who want to leave be able to come here to the U.K., or other countries?</s>CHENG: I do think, at least now, seeing Boris Johnson's administration, taking great work steps, at least it shows correct and good aptitude, and saying as a government, we need to protect our people. So, I do think that is a good sign.</s>ROBERTSON: This is going to put the British government in direct conflict, much more with China if this happens.</s>CHENG: I do understand that the U.K. government may be in a bit of a dilemma to get along with the Chinese government, but in the future, I do believe that the cold war is approaching.</s>ROBERTSON: The cold war with China?</s>CHENG: Yes, exactly. A cold war will be approaching. And China, at the end of the day, gets to show their true muscles. That's going to be asserted and even stronger. They will expand.</s>ROBERTSON: Do you think China is beginning to show its true hand to the world about how it plans to handle Hong Kong going forward and its international relations?</s>CHENG: Yes, I do believe that China now showing what actually they are. We hope that they can leave the hand from Hong Kong. Let Hongkongers to enjoy the autonomy, because that can protect their prosperity, and let Hong Kong flourish. However, now, as you can see in a sense of the authoritarianism. They cannot control, they cannot self-constrain their power. Once they can see any space they can occupy. They have lots of power and they will expand their rules over Hong Kong.</s>ROBERTSON: So what he is talking about there is the new national security laws on Hong Kong. And he fears that if protesters speak out the way that he is, now if they do that in Hong Kong, then they will be subject to that national security law, and could face the same kind of treatment that he had, questioning and indeed tortured. China denies that there were acts of torture there, but I think if you look at this in the bigger context at the moment, that the world is facing over its relationship with China, you have, just yesterday, Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister here, in a phone conversation with Scott Morrison, both of them registering their concern about that new national security law in Hong Kong. The British Prime Minister, saying that it breaks the terms of the joint declaration in 1984. The China issue was an issue with G7, Foreign Minister's conversation just a couple of days ago. It was a subject of the E.U. and U.S. foreign minister conversations at the beginning of the week. So, this is a big issue. That national security law, is it crossing a redline, how is it crossing the redline and what will the response be? This seems to be the position we are in at the moment.</s>CHURCH: All right. Many thanks to our Nic Robertson, joining us there from 10th Downing Street. I appreciate it. And you are watching CNN Newsroom, we'll be back in just a moment.