Manafort Juror Says Lone Woman Was Hold out on 10 Counts.
CABRERA: A juror in the Paul Manafort trial is now going public about what went on behind the scenes during four days of deliberations. The jury Trump voter revealed a lone holdout on jury save Manafort from being convicted on all 18 counts. Take a listen.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What were the deliberations like? Was it heated?</s>PAULA DUNCAN, MANAFORT JUROR: It was. Crazily enough there were even tears. Two of the jurors, one of the females that did finally change her vote to guilty would come in one day and say guilty and then the next day say, oh no I felt pressured I want to change my vote. So, there was a lot of back and forth with that. But finally, once again we got all those documents, put them in front of her and she changed her vote to guilty again. But the one holdout would not.</s>CABRERA: Joining us now jury consultant, Mark Calzaretta, the director of litigation consulting, Magna Legal Services. Mark, thank you for being with us. Take us behind the scenes. What happens when one person on the jury is the road block? It must be intense.</s>MARK CALZARETTA, JURY CONSULTANT (via Skype): It certainly is. And you can just listen to the description of say the entire panel putting all of the documents out in front of a particular juror. And you are the last one standing and you have that kind of pressure and the entire group trying to persuade you. It is intense. There is no doubt about it, very intense.</s>CABRERA: Is what she described typical of tempers flaring or tears falling as one juror being -- kind of wavering? Is that usual? Oh, yes, OK, guilty. No, I don't think so anymore. Yes, I think so. Is that usual?</s>CALZARETTA: You know, I think each juror if you think about this, you know, each juror needs to go home and feel good about what they did. Right? They're going to have to go home, they have to lay their head on the pillow and they have to live with the verdict. In you're talking about a criminal verdict here. So, you are not just talking about civil where it is two companies fighting potentially over money. You hold someone's fate in your hands. Jurors go into that deliberation and each of them individually has an outcome in mind. How they would like the outcome to end and one that is good for them. And then they begin to barter. And they have to work through those issues and then eventually come to some common ground. For certain jurors they will give and take here. And I think what you saw here is that they were able to convict on many counts. So, for many of the jurors I think at the end of the day they want to go home eventually. Right? They want to get out of there. So, you will have one hold out that isn't going to budge. Sometimes that's where it ends up and the other jurors are satisfied enough that they did their job and they are getting a guilty verdict at least on a number of counts. And they did their job and the other juror, give them credit, like it or not, standing your ground and say I'm not going to acquiesce. They have to be able to sleep at night. Mark Calzaretta, I wish we had more time. Thank you so much for your insight. We really appreciate you joining us.</s>CALZARETTA: Thank you.</s>CABRERA: And this just in to CNN, Republican Congressman Duncan Hunter has just stepped down from his committee assignment. And it comes right after he was arraigned in a California courtroom accused of misusing more than a quarter million dollars in campaign funds. Stay with us.