Trump Clashes with G7 Allies on Trade Ahead of Kim Meeting
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Just throughout the day, we've been learning more details of exactly what is going to happen 11 hours from now and perhaps the most important meeting is the one right off the bat, that one-on-one with President Trump and their translators.</s>KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That will be the most important meeting, Anderson. That's the one to keep an eye on because the rest will essentially just serve as photo opportunities for both sides, but that is the meeting where we could find out what exactly these two leaders are going to come to an agreement on. We know right now they're going to sit down, shake hands and what comes next is still pretty unclear. The Secretary of State Mike Pompeo briefed reporters earlier and though he gave a few outlines of what exactly the United States is looking to get from North Korea, he made clear that they have not received any firm commitments. The United States has not received any firm commitments from them on what they would commit to. So that is still largely up for debate. That's the question here. Pompeo said that he does believe this administration won't be deceived by the North Koreans, though, as he believes administrations in the past have been.</s>MIKE POMPEO, SECRETARY OF STATE: The United States has been fooled before. There is no doubt about it. Many presidents previously have signed off on pieces of paper only to find that the North Koreans either didn't promise what we thought they had or actually reneged on their promises. We are going to ensure that we set up a system sufficiently robust that we're able to verify these outcomes. And it's only once the V happens that we'll proceed a pace.</s>COLLINS: So he didn't answer exactly what the security assurances the United States would make to North Korea if they did commit the denuclearization would look like, including did not answer a question about what would happen to those 25,000 troops on the Korean peninsula. But back to tomorrow morning, you know, we're just hours away from this meeting now and we're learning a little bit more about what it's going to look like. We knew that Trump and Kim Jong-un were going to sit down one-on-one. Only their translators in the room with them. But now after that, they will go into an expanded bilateral meeting. That could include a few officials from the U.S. side, a few officials from the North Korea side and then they will participate in a working lunch. That is a lunch that's going to have a few more officials in it, including the National Security adviser John Bolton and the Chief of Staff John Kelly as well as a few other national security officials and the Press Secretary Sarah Sanders. But it all goes back to that first meeting between President Trump and Kim Jong-un, something the president said he would be able to know in one minute what that meeting is going to shape out to be. But that's the meeting where the real progress will happen, where the real commitments could be made. But, Anderson, we have to note it's just going to be Kim Jong-un and President Trump in that room. So whatever account we get of what happened during that meeting is going to be coming from one of them, and whatever one of them says was said or what was promised, we won't be able to corroborate it with anyone else. We'll have to go off of their word.</s>COOPER: Yes. President Trump said he'll be talking to reporters at some point tomorrow as well. Kaitlan Collins, thanks very much. A lot to watch for.</s>POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: All right. So as he prepares for this summit with Kim Jong-un, President Trump is continuing to take aim at the United States G7 allies. Some of the president's closest advisers accusing Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of stabbing President Trump in the back. Let's go to Ottawa, that's where our correspondent Paula Newton is with more. So the president left the G7 summit agreeing to sign this communique, gets on Air Force One, Trudeau holds a press conference, says we won't be pushed around, and then it just all fell out from there. Walk us through it.</s>PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: OK. Apparently the advisers, especially Larry Kudlow, says that, look, all hell broke loose. That at that point in time the president was incensed. And the thing that has Canadians reeling is that they say when he pushed -- pulled out of the G7 communique late on Saturday, they asked Larry Kudlow, what the heck happened? Larry Kudlow said he didn't know. And yet by morning television, Larry Kudlow not only knew what was going on, but obviously was channeling whatever President Trump had said to him on a phone call from Air Force One. Take a listen.</s>LARRY KUDLOW, TRUMP'S CHIEF ECONOMIC ADVISER: He really kind of stabbed us in the back. He really actually, you know what, he did a great disservice to the whole G7.</s>PETER NAVARRO, TRUMP'S TRADE ADVISER: There is a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door.</s>NEWTON: You know, special place in hell. Canadian officials were absolutely floored. They're trying not to react at this moment, Poppy. It is tough. The prime minister refused to answer questions about it yesterday, he's got a day off today. The Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland saying that, look, these personal attacks are not a way to do business. But what's clear here, Poppy, is that the president thinks that it is a way to do business. Larry Kudlow basically said that it was connected to the summit in Singapore and that his allies, especially Justin Trudeau, made him look weak in the face of that. At issue still, Poppy, are those important trading relationships, front and center is NAFTA. What the shame here is that both sides have told me that they did make progress on NAFTA and were supposed to get back to work later this week to try and work out a path forward. Poppy, it's no surprise to anyone that both Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill are watching this very closely.</s>HARLOW: Yes.</s>NEWTON: And wondering when and if they should get in the game here given really a new low in Canada-U.S. relations.</s>HARLOW: We did hear from Senator John McCain, we'll wait to hear from others on it. Paula Newton, appreciate the reporting and let us know what we do hear from Prime Minister Trudeau. Anderson.</s>COOPER: Poppy, thanks. Joining us now, CNN global affairs analyst, Ambassador Joseph Yun, and Jean Lee, a veteran foreign correspondent and an expert on North Korea. Ambassador Yun, are you surprised that this one-on-one meeting between President Trump and Kim Jong-un, which most people -- most observers say is probably the most crucial part of all this, that it's going to go on for as long -- it's scheduled for some two hours, which is a lot of time between two world leaders and just with their translators.</s>JOSEPH YUN, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Frankly, I'm a little surprised. It is so long. Usually this kind of meeting will be off schedule, you know. They wouldn't publicize so heavily a one-on-one meeting, also right on top, in the beginning. So typically one-on-one you place it in the middle, when you get stuck or at the end, to wrap it up. So, I mean, it does seem that one-on-one meeting is the main thing. An expanded bilateral working lunch is a side show. And, Anderson, I mean, we have to be concerned, you know, of the leaders getting together without real expert help. You know. Denuclearization is a serious issue. What steps they take is a serious issue.</s>COOPER: Well, especially with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo talking about verification being so important, which is obviously it is.</s>YUN: Yes.</s>COOPER: Verification is extraordinarily complex.</s>YUN: I think you could say it is all about verification. If you don't know what they have, what are you negotiating? If you cannot verify what they have, what are you negotiating? So verification is very, very important. And so I would hope that -- I mean, I know, for example, President Trump has been following the issue. But, again, this is very serious issue. Let's hope they get some technical help because they will need it.</s>COOPER: Jean, what are you expecting for -- to really come out of this tomorrow, if anything?</s>JEAN LEE, DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR KOREAN HISTORY AND PUBLIC POLICY, WILSON CENTER: I'm expecting a historic photo-op, frankly. I do think that President Trump wants to get Kim Jong-un in a room alone, away from the aides. You know, he's been hearing from Kim Jong-un through his envoys, through the South Korean president. He wants to get him in a room and find out what he really wants and perhaps sit down with him and work out what they're going to tell the world. But to be honest, the North Koreans, what they want at most is a declaration of some sort, perhaps pertaining to the Korean War. They want to have this photo-op that is going to make Kim Jong-un look like a leader who has been legitimized as a fellow world leader, on the same level as the U.S. president, and perhaps he wants to get out of this without agreeing to too much, that he -- about when it comes to denuclearization. They will talk about denuclearization and he will certainly embrace the concept of denuclearization. Kim Jong-un has been very clear that he embraces the concept. But he's going to say, listen, I will give up my nuclear weapons when you give them up. So let's figure out how we're both going to do that.</s>COOPER: Ambassador Yun, has the U.S. -- it sounds like the language the U.S. is using is already moving toward the same kind of language that the North Korea has been using.</s>YUN: I think this is a key point, Anderson, that over the past, I would say, two, three weeks, our position has changed quite substantially. And as you say, moving towards what looks like North Korean position. Initially --</s>COOPER: Does that concern you?</s>YUN: It does concern me. Initially we wanted at least big deliverable big bang, you might say, all in one, and then we moved it back, it's got to be process, it's got to be progress. But I think to get away from what we've done in the past, at least we have to have sizable deliverable. And if we are too serious, Kim Jong-un seriousness, then we have to test it. So far I see no signs that we're seriously testing the hypothesis that he wants to denuclearize. And if we get into this action for action, little by little, it can drag on forever and in the end, we're going to have no progress. So I would like to see coming out tomorrow, from the declaration that Jean mentioned, some immediate steps that they will do. We do some security assurance, they do denuclearization. So it's fair. Fair is fair. You got to do a little bit of each. But let's see something that shows Kim Jong-un is indeed serious.</s>COOPER: Yes. Ambassador Yun, thank you very much. Jean Lee as well. Poppy.</s>HARLOW: All right. Anderson, thank you very much. So back in the United States, our relationship with allies certainly on the rails from fair trade to free trade to fool's trade. What the president is saying this morning and what if means for the future of U.S. diplomacy. Also the Trump administration maintaining it is looking for complete denuclearization. We're going to take a look at how is that defined by both leaders and how it is accomplished ahead.