Palin To Speak In Wisconsin; Wisconsin Primaries Tuesday; Could Rubio Emerge At GOP Convention?
PALIN: Say anything that they want to about immigration, amnesty, but actions scream so much louder than a politician's words. Take the game of eightville to increase foreign workers by 500 percent and green cards increase by (inaudible) percent. Who offer the amendments for that to further collapse the U.S. incomes and jobs and security? Which candidate? Second messed up policy I want to talk about is trade. The loss of our ...</s>LEMON: All right. That's Sarah Palin speaking live in Milwaukee at Wisconsin's largest fish fry, she speaking on behalf of Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Donald Trump refusing to rule out a third party run tonight. Here's what he told Fox News.</s>WALLACE: Are you ruling out running as an independent third party candidate? Are you ruling that out? It's a simple question.</s>TRUMP: No, it's not that simple. I'm by far as the frontrunner as a Republican. I want to run as a Republican. I will beat Hillary Clinton.</s>WALLACE: But if you don't get the nomination?</s>TRUMP: We'll going to have to see how I was treated. I'm going to have to see I was treated. Very simple.</s>LEMON: Back with me now, Bob Beckel, Tana Goertz, Jason Roe and Ron Nehring. Bob, do you think that Trump would run as a third party candidate if there's a contested convention that ultimately picks someone else?</s>BECKEL: I think, he's using his leverage right now as much as he possibly can, but he doesn't have much room for a margin for error. He loses Wisconsin, and I have a hard time and I got the delegates in 7th presidential race. I have a hard time coming up with the number he needs. And so if they go to a second ballot, there going to be a lot of people, like Michael said before, that are party regulars, that are people that are already saying they're going to peel off in the second ballot. If he doesn't win this outright on the first ballot, he's not going to be the nominee.</s>LEMON: Yeah, but if wouldn't he just be handing the election to whoever the Democratic candidate is?</s>BECKEL: Either way, I mean if he gets the nomination, he hands it to the Democrats. If he runs third party, he hands it to the Democrats. So I don't ...</s>LEMON: That's your estimation, right?</s>BECKEL: Well, that's my estimation that I suggest.</s>LEMON: Yeah. OK, Tana, what do you think?</s>GOERTZ: First of all, I'm very confident and positive that Mr. Trump will get to 1,237 and we won't have a discussion. So, I think we're going to do it. I'm saying very confident and our team believes that Mr. Trump will able to do it.</s>LEMON: The numbers in Wisconsin aren't great. I know, the polls, I mean, you know, sometimes are wrong but the numbers aren't great in Wisconsin. And Wisconsin -- I mean that could be the turning point.</s>GOERTZ: I agree but, you know what, Don -- he's there right now and when he speaks, people listen. And that he saying what they want to hear. They want the jobs and they want security and I mean, Milwaukee is one of the heroin capitals of the world.</s>LEMON: OK.</s>GOERTZ: And Mr. Trump talks about that. So, I mean, there we have to get through Tuesday and then we'll see. But I believe that he will ...</s>LEMON: OK, point taken.</s>GOERTZ: ... get to that number and we won't have to worry about it.</s>LEMON: Point taken, Ron, I want to bring you in here, the establishment isn't so fond of Ted Cruz either. So you think they're going to come around wither in an open convention or in the general?</s>NEHRING: Well, I think we've had a lot of people come and rally behind Senator Cruz for sure. I mean we have five former presidential candidates who have come in behind Senator Cruz, including Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, that's a really big one. And I mean just commenting on this related issue of what people in Wisconsin what to do want jobs, they do want security, they do want freedom and they want Ted Cruz. I mean these voters in the state of Wisconsin right now who are paying so much attention they're choosing Senator Cruz and his numbers are going up and Donald Trump's numbers are dropping like a stone. And that's really, really encouraging, you know, going forward so Donald Trump is not on track to get 1,237 anything at this convention and certainly the, you know, the direction for him is that the air is coming out of the balloon. And so whenever the air comes out of the Donald Trump balloon we can expect more and more erratic behavior from him like we saw today, like we saw last week and the Lord knows what he'll do on Twitter next. You know, that's a sign he's in trouble.</s>GOERTZ: But why is he winning then?</s>LEMON: There is a 10-point -- there is a 10, but Ted Cruz does have a 10-point lead in Wisconsin. We're talking about Wisconsin, Tana.</s>GOERTZ: But that's one poll though. That's one poll I just talked to our campaign his, I mean ...</s>NEHRING: It's not actually, its two polls. There's more than one poll.</s>BECKEL: And you'd noticed that ...</s>LEMON: Tana, you're talking about overall nationwide. Go ahead finish your point.</s>GOERTZ: Well I'm just going to say, why -- if Ted Cruz is the speak hero, then why isn't he winning, why is and he beating Mr. Trump? Why hasn't he already got to the eight states, I mean if Ted Cruz is this guy, why isn't he beating Mr. Trump? I mean, we just saw what happened in Florida and Arizona. I mean, yes, Ted got Utah, but, you know, that's fine. I mean, the Mormons are very conservative people and it was an open primary. Mr. Trump does fantastic when it's an open primary. I saw in Iowa how he brings in the Democrats and independents that is one of his strain, because ...</s>NEHRING: He lost in Iowa, he lost in Iowa. Senator Cruz won in Iowa.</s>GOERTZ: Right I know he did, but I saw what he did -- I know. Oh let hey, let's not even go there what Ted Cruz did in Iowa. He's a liar, cheater and a thief. We know that.</s>NEHRING: Look hold on a second. Hold on a second.</s>GOERTZ: All right.</s>NEHRING: Let's look at the most recent states that's have voted let's take a look at Utah for example where Donald Trump ...</s>GOERTZ: Sure.</s>NEHRING: ... pronounced that he was going to win, he spent time, energy and effort there. John Kasich spent a lot of time, energy and effort there ...</s>GOERTZ: Let's go back to that, let's go back to Utah and the Melania picture ...</s>LEMON: Let him finish.</s>GOERTZ: Let's go back -- let's go back to Utah.</s>LEMON: Let him finish.</s>LEMON: Ron, I need you to make your point, though. I'm running out of time.</s>GOERTZ: Make your point, let's go. Get there.</s>NEHRING: Yeah, we hit 69 percent there and we got 100 percent of the delegates going forward. Now the next state where people are paying the most attention is in Wisconsin and Donald Trump is in huge trouble. He's dropping like a stone ...</s>GOERTZ: What's this?</s>NEHRING: ... and now is the time when people are really seen ...</s>GOERTZ: He is not dropping like a stone.</s>LEMON: OK Jason. I want to bring Jason in. Jason, you said how ...</s>LEMON: I want to ask you about something Jason that you said which I found very interesting. You said that if you were Marco Rubio, that you would go dark you would let the wounds heal and then you would emerge at the convention, I mean do you think that's feasible? Could that really happen?</s>ROE: Well I don't think that Donald Trump is going to have 1,237 delegates when it comes time for the convention and I do think that the delegates, when they start to convene are going to be looking at how any of the Republican candidates, whether they were candidates during the process or just names out there, formidable figures, how they match up against Hillary Clinton in November. And I think we're going to get past this where people in a state are going to pick their preference and their primary and start really looking at November and who can win. I mean, we're seeing already Donald Trump is losing by double digits to Hillary Clinton, we will lose control of the Senate. We will lose seats in the House of Representatives if Donald Trump is the nominee and I think that there's going to be a big sober convention in which people realize that Donald Trump will be the death of the Republican Party and they will look to an alternative. And I believe that Marco Rubio still will poll the best against Hillary Clinton and gives Republicans best opportunity to win.</s>LEMON: Jason, Bob, Ron, Tana, thank you very much.</s>GOERTZ: You've got to go.</s>LEMON: I know I do it.</s>LEMON: Have a great weekend. Thank you all, see you soon. When we come right back, the nastiest moment so far in the Trump-Cruz battle the war over their wives. I'm going to talk to the founder of the Super PAC responsible for the ad featuring a racy photo of Melania Trump.