U.S. Will Hunt Down Terrorists; Hunting Down Terrorists
BLITZER: A big part of the fight to protect the U.S. homeland is focused squarely on ISIS. The attorney general of the United States, Eric Holder, insists the United States is committed to bringing those terrorists to justice, including the ISIS fighter known as Jihadi John, the man seen in several of the terror group's beheading videos has now been identified as Mohammed Emwazi, a Kuwaiti-born, college- educated London man. Here's what Eric Holder told CNN's Pamela Brown.</s>ERIC HOLDER, U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL: We have shown that it doesn't matter how long it takes. It doesn't matter where you are. We'll find you. We'll hunt you down. And we will hold you accountable.</s>PAMELA BROWN, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: But in a war zone like Syria, can you really do that?</s>HOLDER: Whether it's through the use of our military, through the use of our law enforcement capacity, if you harm Americans, it is the sworn duty of every person in the executive branch to find you and hold you accountable.</s>BLITZER: An intensive search is underway right now for at least four Canadian teenagers who may have flown to the Middle East to join ISIS. Canadian authorities are also investigating more young people who could have followed a similar path. And there has been a new arrest in the deadly shootings that terrorized Copenhagen, Denmark earlier this month. Police now say a young man has been charged with helping the suspected gunman. Two people were killed when the shooter opened fire on a free speech forum. And, once again, a few hours later, outside a synagogue in Copenhagen. The gunman was later shot and killed by local police. Lots to discuss. Let's bring in your Law Enforcement Analyst, the former FBI assistant director, Tom Fuentes. And joining us from Colorado, our CNN Security and Intelligence Analyst, the former CIA operative, Bob Baer. Let's talk about, Tom, the hunt. The hunt for Jihadi John, as he's called. We're learning a lot more about this guy. And he doesn't necessarily fit the pattern of someone who was isolated, poor, didn't have a job. He was pretty sophisticated, highly educated, come from a relatively upper middle class background.</s>TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: No, I agree, Wolf. You know, I think there's been too much said by the administration and many people trying to create a profile of only the down and out, only the people that can't get jobs or are uneducated join ISIS or join the extremist terrorists around the world. And we've seen example after example of well-educated people joining who really believe that's the fundamental true religion that they're signing up for. Now, granted, many of them are garden variety psychopaths on top of that and enjoy the killing that they're doing. But there is a basis for that thinking as well. So, we can't pigeonhole that people have joined ISIS into just that -- the down trodden.</s>BLITZER: Bob Baer, you know, there's a lot of investigations underway now, a lot of soul searching in the U.K. over whether or not they made a major blunder in letting this guy get out of the country. He apparently had been watched for a long time by British surveillance and all of a sudden he slows up and he's beheading individuals on videotape.</s>BOB BAER, CNN SECURITY AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: Exactly, Wolf. I mean, as Tom said, we can't profile these people. And right now we're not even sure how he was recruited. Was it on the Internet? Was it related to the 2005 tube bombings? Why did he choose to pick the Somali conflict? Why, in his mind, was that a great act of injustice? And how that goes from the Islamic State? There's so much we don't know. What's interesting for me is the British didn't, you know, do a full investigation from the beginning once they had identified him from voice analysis. They didn't go to neighbors. They didn't look into this. They had other operational considerations, which I understand. But only now are the details coming out. And once we start talking to the families and friends will we understand how this conversion happened. But, again, I go back to - and Tom and I have talked about this before, you really can't blame the British for not arresting him. He hadn't committed a crime. And by the time he got away, it was too late for them to do anything.</s>BLITZER: Was there a misstep, you believe, based on what we know right now by British intelligence or law enforcement, the security personnel?</s>FUENTES: No, I don't think so. And when I was running international operations, we worked closely with MI5. And I remember as far back 10 years ago, when the bombings happened in the underground and on the bus in London, the head of MI5 then said, we can't follow everybody. We don't have the resources. And now you probably have 10 or 20 times as many people as need to be followed and I would gather that they have not had the significant increase in resources to do it. So this is going to happen over and over and over. It can happen in our country or Canada or anywhere in Europe. And it's just going to continue.</s>BLITZER: Yes. And I know, as you just heard Eric Holder saying, they're looking for this guy. They want to bring him to justice, this so-called "Jihadi John."</s>FUENTES: Right.</s>BLITZER: We'll see what happens. Guys, stand by. There's other important news we're following, including this -- he was the stuff of science fiction legend. We have sad news to report from Los Angeles. The actor, Leonard Nimoy, has died. "The Los Angeles Times" and "The New York Times" confirmed the death by speaking with his family. Leonard Nimoy will, of course, be remembered around the world as Spock, the half human, half Vulcan character he portrayed on the "Star Trek" series and movies. The actor had chronic lung disease caused by years of smoking. Leonard Nimoy was 83 years old. Up next, we're going to speak with one of his friends, the "Star Trek" cast member George Takei. You may know him as Mr. Sulu. Stay with us. We'll be right back.