Team Aniston Versus Team Jolie
HAMMER: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, team Aniston versus team Jolie. Jennifer Aniston tells Oprah what she really things about Brangelina. But whose side are you on? Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT presents the great debate - team Aniston versus team Jolie.</s>MOOS: John McCain and Barack Obama doggy chew toys. Perfect for the White House pet.</s>HAMMER: The search for the top dog at the White House. President-elect Obama promised his girls a puppy, setting off first dog mania. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is on Obama watch. TV`s most provocative news show continues right now.</s>ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you tonight from Hollywood.</s>HAMMER: Well, I hope you`re ready because, tonight it`s team Aniston versus team Jolie. Yes. Jennifer Aniston went on Oprah today following her blockbuster remark about Angelina Jolie hooking up with Brad Pitt, calling what she did "un-cool." Well, tonight, we are tackling a great American debate. What team are you rooting for - Team Jolie or team Aniston? Plus, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with continuing coverage of the Jennifer Aniston confession tour. First, "Vogue" magazine; now, Oprah, what she really thinks about Angelina Jolie and her ex, Brad Pitt. Joining me tonight from Miami is Steve Santagati from the Web site "BadBoysFinishFirst.com." And tonight, in New York is Janell Snowden, who`s a host for "VH1 News." All right. Janell, Steve, we`ve got two teams. You can only root for one. Steve, we went all out here. I`m going to start with you - team Aniston or team Jolie?</s>SANTAGATI: Team Jolie. You know, if she can`t get a man the old-fashioned way, she steals them. So it worked. On a serious note, A.J., you know, after Angelina and Brad hooked up, it`s like they went on and their relationship has grown. And their life has grown and certainly, their family has grown. The U.N. - the Pitt-Jolie U.N. got started.</s>HAMMER: Yes.</s>SANTAGATI: But Jennifer has kind of like meandered around picking bad boys that she can`t handle and stuff. Nothing really is panning out for her in the relationship area. So I`m going to stay with Jolie for now. Now.</s>HAMMER: Despite the fact you say, "Bad boys finish first."</s>SANTAGATI: Thank you.</s>HAMMER: What about you, Janelle - team Aniston or team Jolie?</s>SNOWDEN: You know, when this went down a few years ago and they first got divorced and we knew the reason, I was on team Aniston naturally. But now, I`m on team happy. I want everybody to be happy.</s>SANTAGATI: Oh, god!</s>HAMMER: Did you see that in our $100 sound effect? I mean, come on.</s>SNOWDEN: Here`s where I`m coming from. If Jennifer Aniston is truly as happy as she wants us to believe she is, judging by the article where she`s saying she can handle bad boys, and she`s just</s>SANTAGATI: Oh, my -</s>SNOWDEN: If they`re happy, then I`m elated.</s>SANTAGATI: I`m going to join team slap.</s>SNOWDEN: I`ve got one for you, Steve.</s>HAMMER: The truth is, Janell, Steve, it does seem that everybody has an opinion on where they stand ...</s>SANTAGATI: They do.</s>HAMMER: ... whether it`s team Jolie, team Aniston, or in this case, team happy. We`re just going to push that one to the side. But Steve, why do you think, after all these years - because we`re talking several years at this point, why so many people remain so divided over who they support?</s>SANTAGATI: I think because two things. A, is most women have been cheated on at some point in their life or had their man, quote, unquote, "seemingly stolen from them." So they`re going to, you know, empathize with Jennifer. At the other side of the coin, they look at like, Angelina Jolie as a strong, empowered woman going out, taking the man that she wants and creating this family with him. So you see that as well. Also, it depends on who`s more popular in the press that week. But yes, I think that, you know, people that side with Jennifer are because they`ve been there. They understand what that`s like to be cheated on and to lose your guy and stuff like that. I think that they look at her like we`re talking the other day about her being the girl next door. So they kind of feel for her.</s>HAMMER: Well, to the point of, you know, people, women may have had their men taken away from them. That brings up the fact that this all got started after the release this week of Jennifer`s big tell-all interview in "Vogue" magazine.</s>SANTAGATI: Right.</s>HAMMER: Jennifer Aniston quoted right on the cover as calling Jolie, quote, "un-cool" for revealing also in "Vogue" that she basically had the hots for Brad when he was still married to Jen. And they were working on "Mr. & Mrs. Smith." Well, Oprah asked Jen about the "Vogue" cover story. Watch this.</s>WINFREY: Is this out of context? You did say, "What Angelina did was very un-cool." You did say that. You just didn`t expect it to be on the cover.</s>ANISTON: Well, no. You don`t expect - He asked me a question and I basically answered it as honestly as I could. You know, I don`t go there, you know what I mean?</s>WINFREY: Yes. Yes.</s>ANISTON: It`s 100 years old for christ`s sake.</s>HAMMER: She didn`t go there. She`s out there promoting her new movie. She`s still being bombarded with personal questions about Angelina and Brad. What do you think, Janelle? It almost seems as if she`s just as famous for her acting career as she is for being the dissed lover of Brad Pitt. Is she ever going to live this down?</s>SNOWDEN: Sadly, I think I agree with you. I mean, we can`t seem to push that to the side. It is 100 years old, as she`s saying. I don`t know if she`s going to ever live it down until she proves to us she`s conventionally happy. And she might not have that in her cards. I mean, she says in the article that she wants to get married. No, she doesn`t say she wants to get married. She says that she wants to have kids and she said that she will find a man. And right now, she`s just having fun and each of the people that she`s dated has been there for a reason. So I just think that, you know, until she proves to us that she fits into our box of whatever happiness is supposed to be, then no, she`s not going to live it down.</s>HAMMER: Steve, do you see that happening?</s>SANTAGATI: No. I think that - look, Jennifer got into a situation where she said something on the record. It`s not her first interview, guys. She`s been around for 100 years, and she could have answered that question any way she wanted. As a matter of fact, she could have answered that question, like by saying to "Vogue," "I don`t want to talk about that. Let`s move on. It`s done. It`s water under the bridge." But she didn`t.</s>SNOWDEN: But she would have alienated herself from us. Then we would have felt like, "OK, she`s not being real. Keep it real. You`ve got to be upset about this. She`s never talked about it.</s>SANTAGATI: Keep it real?</s>SNOWDEN: Keep it real.</s>SANTAGATI: Janell - OK. Let`s keep it real. Then she should have screamed and yelled when it first happened and said, "Angelina Jolie, that lousy woman. I can`t believe she did that. I can`t believe she seduced my man," even though Brad is a lot responsible for this, more than the both of them.</s>SNOWDEN: It was at the time, and she probably didn`t know how she felt -</s>SNOWDEN: Because she had to process her emotions. Privately, I`m sure I would have said a few nasty things. But publicly, I probably wouldn`t have.</s>SANTAGATI: Janell. Janell.</s>SNOWDEN: Steve. Steve.</s>SANTAGATI: Someone seduces my girlfriend, I don`t wait a week. I come after them then and on the spot. If I`m a celebrity, I use this wonderful microphone.</s>HAMMER: Well, to this point, and because I think Steve - I think you`re not alone. I think I was a little surprised a lot of people were surprised that Jennifer did wait so long to speak out so, you know, articulately about this. Look at what we asked in our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Jennifer Aniston Slams Angelina Jolie: Should she have spoken out?" Well, 70 percent of you said yes. Only 30 percent said no.</s>SANTAGATI: Right.</s>HAMMER: And the "Showbiz On Call" phone lines - I`m not lying when I say, they were going berserk.</s>SANTAGATI: Right.</s>HAMMER: I want to play a call of Jonello in Texas. This is what Jonello had to say about the whole thing. Clearly, Jonello on team Aniston.</s>JONELLO, CALLER FROM TEXAS: She should have spoke out. She should have spoke out years ago when this happened. And maybe then, she would have been able to carry on with her life instead of just punch and go, punch and go.</s>HAMMER: So Janelle, you really don`t think that Jennifer should have spoken out sooner because she was processing everything still, is what you`re surmising?</s>SNOWDEN: No, I`m just saying that, you know, everything happens for a reason, for whatever reason she chose to keep quiet and not saying anything. And I think people were also forbidden from asking her about it. I remember doing a couple of red carpets with her and the publicist came through and they were like, "If you dare." So everyone just didn`t go there. And now that, you know, some time has passed, I think people feel a little safer to approach it. And maybe that`s why she just said something now. Who knows?</s>HAMMER: Well, Steve, let met ask you something because you brought up Brad Pitt. And despite all the drama, it turns out that Jennifer still has nothing but love and good things and praise for Brad Pitt. Does that surprise you to hear that?</s>SANTAGATI: No. Yes and no. It`s weird that she wouldn`t direct some of her attention to the guy. But I think Jennifer, at the end of the day, celebrity or not, famous, rich or not - women tend to blame the other woman for infidelity sometimes. `And I think that, you know, she maybe wants to keep a good relationship with Brad. I don`t know. Maybe she feels like someday she`ll win him back. That`s kind of a crazy thing. You know, Brad never talked about this for a long time either, because that`s a guy thing. We get over it in a week. And women want to talk about it and over-think it for 100 years, 100 years.</s>HAMMER: All right, 100 years.</s>HAMMER: I can hear the phone ringing right now, as if I didn`t turn the ringer down a bit. "Showbiz On Call" phone lines are open at 1-888-SBT- BUZZ. That`s 1-888-728-2899. Leave us a voicemail. We`re playing your calls here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Also, your calls to "Showbiz On Call" now online on our home page, which you have bookmarked, CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. All right, Brooke. Tonight, we are on SHOWBIZ Obama watch.</s>ANDERSON: That`s right, A.J. Two great stories to tell you about starting with Michelle Obama`s big decorating project. We`ve got a fascinating inside look at how the new first lady will turn the White House into the family home. Plus, the search for a dog for the Obamas.</s>MOOS: John McCain and Barack Obama doggy chew toys. Perfect for the White House pet.</s>HAMMER: Who will be the top dog at the White House? President-elect Obama promised his girls a puppy, and that set off first dog mania. That`s coming up.</s>ANDERSON: And remember the pregnant man? Tonight, there`s more big news about Thomas Beatie, the transgender who made headlines giving birth to a baby girl over the summer. 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