Update On The Child Of War
COOPER: Continuing the conversation from before the break, the subject, Donald Trump's message today to African-Americans. Here's what he said, particularly the line that's getting a lot of attention.</s>TRUMP: I'll say it again. What do you have to lose? Look, what do you have to lose? Look, you're living in poverty. Your schools are no good. You have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?</s>COOPER: John, I want you to take a look at the latest poll. I mean, it has him with only 2 percent of the vote for African-Americans. What does he need to do to change that? Can he change that given there are 80-some days left?</s>KING: It's very difficult. And I think to Tara's point, being present is what matters. Again, you can say this is very cynical on Donald Trump's part, I can give you a cynical political argument that if Donald Trump can get more, if turnout drops a little bit, I can give you all the map and crunch the numbers, or I can give you the OK as Andre says he's taking baby steps here. I don't read minds so I don't know what the sentiment behind this appeal this week for Trump is. But if you're at 2 percent in the polls among African-Americans, and African-Americans turn out anywhere near where they turned out in 2012, which was down from the history making year of 2008, and then you lose the presidential election, period. Because if African-American turnout is significant in Cleveland, it's pretty hard to win Ohio. If African-American turnout is significant in Philadelphia, and she does well in the suburbs, where Hillary Clinton is doing well now among white college-educated suburban, especially women, but among all suburbanites. So, if Hillary Clinton has the Obama coalition and get high African-American turnout in the cities and in the suburbs. Bakari is right. You don't forget the African-American middle class. Go to Prince Georges County, Maryland. Go to the research triangle in North Carolina, and other battleground states. This isn't just about inner city African-Americans. So, I make the mistake of over-generalizing sometimes, but in the traditional Democratic coalition, if the African-American vote turns out and it's 95 percent plus or even 92 percent plus for Hillary Clinton, 93 percent plus in Cleveland, in Philadelphia, in Charlotte, game over.</s>COOPER: It is interesting, Bakari, that when Donald Trump does talk about African-Americans, it is -- he's just talking about inner city and even the portrait he paints of life in the inner city, it has no nuance about people working hard, about working multiple jobs of the variety of life that is in any community.</s>SELLERS: I mean, I think that -- I know Tara might point this out, I know that Tara has worked in Congress and so has Angela, but one of the things they may get their members with the people they worked with is actually finding a positive story about the group of people that you're talking to. That's been missing. But I think the disconnect that Donald Trump is having is one of -- I know he can't quite get the empathy, but it's one of sympathy. It's one that recognizing that I'm 31 years old, but my father literally was shot and imprisoned in the massacre during the civil rights movement. We are only a generation away from the George Wallaces and the water hoses and the dogs and the little girls in Birmingham and Jimmie Lee Jackson, and Modjeska Simkins, Fanny Lou Hamer, I mean, the list goes on and on and on. I mean, boom, 1968. In 1968, we're not that far away, we had the Orangeburg massacre, we had Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King died in that same year, all -- I mean, those things happened and I think he's having a hard time understanding how far we've come and that way he cannot put together where do we go from here? The last point is CNN just wrote a great article, and it was in CNN Money and it talked about African-Americans at the rate we're growing today it takes us 228 years to catch up to white families, 228 years. So to Kayleigh's argument and Andre's argument and whoever wants to lay the argument at the foot of, you know, this back breaking Democratic policies in inner cities, that ain't it.</s>MCENANY: That is it. You might think 27.2 percent poverty rate among African-American individuals, Larry Elder, black conservative commentator, cited that number, you guys might think that's a good thing, but one third of this community --</s>RYE: That's not fair.</s>MCENANY: It is horrific.</s>RYE: Kayleigh, can you retract that, Kayleigh? That's not fair.</s>MCENANY: -- constituents to say how they will be different than Barack Obama and how they will get African-Americans out of this vicious cycle, where you're in a failing school and then one-third of African-Americans are in poverty, that is horrendous. It's time to live up to the promises that have been made to this community. It's unfair. Everyone deserves a shot to the American Dream. I have to correct something you said. Donald Trump was positive and he said African-Americans have fought in every single war, they've raised the national conscience. Maybe you guys didn't hear that. You don't want to hear good thin from Donald Trump. He was very good today and he was on the cutting edge of civil rights at Mar-A-Lago. He was the first person --</s>RYE: I know what you said. You lied.</s>MCENANY: Mar-A-Lago, he was the first person to allow blacks and Jewish individuals into his -- into his club. In fact, he brought a lawsuit against other clubs, part of which alleged they weren't allowing.</s>RYE: After he got sued for spousal discrimination.</s>SELLERS: Why didn't he rent to African-Americans? Why didn't he rent to African-Americans?</s>MCENANY: There were a lot of federal lawsuits brought then and there was no verdict in that case.</s>SELLERS: Twice. He settled twice.</s>RYE: Time out. There are two things that I need to address. One, Kayleigh, I really want you to retract that the poverty rate was a good thing.</s>MCENANY: Bakari sat here last night and tonight and acted as if the economic conditions for the African-American community are good.</s>RYE: So, you're not going to retract it.</s>SELLERS: That's fine.</s>RYE: You're not going to retract it. That's fine. I did not say that. So, viewers, I did not say that. Number one, if you want Donald Trump to stay something that's meaningful for black people and spokesman person for all black people tonight, but what I'm going to tell you is this, plain and simple, he can disavow his racist butler, he can apologize for the those house discrimination for the Department of Justice, he can tell me that that Black Lives Matter protester who he said deserved to get beat up, he retract that and parks apologize for that, he can tell me he never meant to say those legal fees of the guy that punched the black man in the face on the face at his rally shouldn't have happened, he can apologize for the Indian man that was thrown out of his rally today, he can apologize to the Central Park 5 for the full-page ad -- and I am just getting started and I haven't even got to last July. My only point to you is this, Donald Trump doesn't just have a messaging problem, he has a message and belief problem, Kayleigh, and he has to hear it from more than rhinestones and polyester, his two little</s>RYE: I will go there with you all day.</s>MCENANY: Bill Clinton was at an all-white golf course and the NAACP leader came out and said, this is horrible. You have to come out and apologize for this.</s>RYE: Two weeks ago a Florida Republican GOP staffer was kicked out of a Donald Trump rally because he was black.</s>MCENANY: Bill Clinton passed a crime bill that put a lot of African- Americans in prison.</s>RYE: Agreed. Horrible.</s>MCENANY: While calling the community super predators.</s>RYE: Ii believe they have apologized for it, Kayleigh. Did your candidate speak to the NAACP?</s>MCENANY: That is what is delivered under Democratic administration. That is why Alan West and Tim Scott.</s>RYE: Alan West?</s>SELLERS: Tim Scott doesn't even support Donald Trump. So --</s>RYE: And actually Tim Scott is the same senator who went on the Senate floor talking about the times he's been racially profiled and a concept that Donald Trump won't even acknowledge exists.</s>MCENANY: He has acknowledged that it exists. Maybe you didn't hear it but he has --</s>RYE: Maybe it got confused with the several other times that called people that look like me thugs. Perhaps that's what got me confused.</s>MCENANY: Has unbridled illegal immigration.</s>SELLERS: I wanted to do this.</s>SELLERS: I think what we saw today was we saw the Bannon impact on Donald Trump because what Kayleigh was about to walk down is a very dangerous nationalistic rhetoric path in which you begin to pit these groups against each other. One thing Donald Trump said today and it made me perk up when he said you're a refugee in your own community. So, by pitting the African- American community in these, quote/unquote, "inner cities" that are blatantly lazy and have no jobs, have no schools, that Donald Trump was portraying, against refugees and against Hispanic-Americans and against immigrants, and what you're trying to do is drive a wedge and that's a very dangerous political philosophy.</s>SELLLERS: The question is whether or not that will work, and I doubt it.</s>MCENANY: Bakari, do you know who Peter Kirsanow is? He's a U.S. civil rights commissioner who sat before Congress and said illegal immigration is harming the black community and he cited the statistic, 2 million more black men and women are in the workforce. Yes, 2 million fewer have jobs, while 4 million foreign-born people found jobs. That is a fact. Illegal immigration --</s>RYE: You know who provides jobs to foreign workers? Your candidate.</s>MCENANY: Democrats have ignored it and it's a shame.</s>RYE: No, Kayleigh, you keep making these blanket statements that we have ignored things or support certain things because we're pushing back on the rhetoric that you're using that to Bakari's point is very dangerous. I pushed back and told you what your candidate can do to get more black support. You can take it or leave it.</s>SELLERS: I don't think -- take notes. African-Americans are not monolithic, right? African-Americans are not monolithic. Is it possible for Republicans to make inroads to African-American communities? Yes. I think it was.</s>SELLERS: I know that Trey Gowdy and Tim Scott are making reforms throughout the South and Paul Ryan. There is a way to do it, but to bastardize, to demonize, to condescend is not the way and I don't want people to think there is not a way.</s>SETMAYER: This right here, this is the problem with what the Republican Party where they have failed like I said in the messaging, constantly making it balkanizing the different racial identity groups. Yes, it's true that illegal immigration hurts lower income African- Americans in certain communities. Yes, all of those statistics are true. But Donald Trump is talking in such a narrow tunnel vision way that all black people are poor and live in the city. He didn't address anything about home ownership. He didn't address anything about black-owned businesses.</s>SETMAYER: He didn't address anything how black-owned female businesses were the fastest growing businesses under George W. Bush and now they're not under Barack Obama because of the failed economic policies. He' not talking about those kinds of things and he's balkanizing and engaging in leftist racial identity politics and it's really frustrating to hear this.</s>COOPER: We're going to have a lot more to talk about coming up. There is breaking news. A judge rules that Hillary Clinton will have to answer questions about her e-mails under oath. We'll have more on that ahead.