Startling Revelations from a Casey Anthony Juror; Dr. Phil on the Hot Seat Over Hot Sauce?; Stars to the Rescue
A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight, SHOWBIZ justice. Startling new revelations about the vote to acquit Casey Anthony from one of the jurors. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. More SHOWBIZ justice news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - will Dr. Phil be on the hot seat over hot sauce? Tonight, dramatic developments in the trial of the mom accused of forcing her son to swallow hot sauce so she could be on Dr. Phil`s show.</s>JESSICA BEAGLEY, ACCUSED OF CHILD ABUSE: What happens when you lie to me?</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was this</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You get hot sauce.</s>HAMMER: Tonight, stars to the rescue. Brand-new details about Kate Winslet saving Richard Branson`s 90-year-old mom when his mansion burned down. And caught on tape - did Ryan Gosling risk his life by breaking up a nasty New York street fight? Tonight, the remarkable story of how Kim Kardashian`s wedding sparked a new frenzy over her homemade sex tape. Could this come back to haunt her again? TV`s most provocative entertainment news show breaks news right now.</s>BEAGLEY: Open. Close your mouth. Did you swallow it? Go ahead. Do you lie to me? No, don`t spit it. Are lies supposed to come out of your mouth? No. Does it make it better to lie?</s>HAMMER: Oh, boy. I mean, that is just beyond disturbing to me. Look, every parent knows kids can be really difficult. There is simply a line, however, you don`t cross when you`re punishing a kid. And to me, that goes way beyond that line. Holly, to you first. Any question that this woman deserved to be arrested and put on trial?</s>HOLLY HUGHES, FORMER PROSECUTOR: No question whatsoever, A.J. And what I would like to see happen is I would like to see the people at "Dr. Phil" prosecuted for this as well under party to a crime of child abuse. The problem becomes, there`s not going to be any proof because initially, A.J., she just sent in a tape of her sitting around the kitchen table. And they said, "Not really what we`re looking for if you want to get on the show. Perhaps you should show yourself punishing the child." They encouraged her to do this and it is outrageous that they`re not being held accountable.</s>HAMMER: Yes, outrageous with a capital O. All right, Sunny, mother, prosecutor. What do you say to this?</s>SUNNY HOSTIN, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, "IN SESSION" ON TRU TV: You know where I come down on it. I mean, not only am I a mother of a boy and a girl, nine years old and five years old, I was also a prosecutor that prosecuted child sex crimes and crimes against children. There`s no question in my mind that this is child abuse. She`s facing up to a year in prison. She should be found guilty. She should face up to a year in prison. I`m not certain about the "Dr. Phil Show`s" liability. I don`t know what went on behind the scenes. But she is the mother, right? And so she is the person in my mind who is responsible. She is the person who should be advocating for her child and taking care of him and protecting him.</s>HAMMER: Yes.</s>HOSTIN: And instead, she`s abusing him. It`s all about the mother, in my opinion.</s>HAMMER: Well, the prosecutors in the case, again, say that Jessica Beagley did tape herself punishing the child just to get on TV. And when she went on "Dr. Phil Show" to reveal how she punished her son, of course the audience was outraged there. You`ve got watch the reaction of these moms in the audience.</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just think when I saw your son, I was outraged and hurting for him. People crying - I hear tears in the audience. He needs to be taken out of the home now.</s>DR. PHIL MCGRAW, HOST, "THE DR. PHIL SHOW": Ramona, what do you want to say?</s>UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am a mom with six children at home, so you cannot tell me that you don`t feel the abuse and attack that you`re giving to a seven-year-old. You need to be put on a time-out.</s>HAMMER: Yes. I`ve got to say I completely agree. At the least, she needs to be on a time-out. But you know, it`s easy also to wonder if Dr. Phil also might need a time-out here. A lot of people are criticizing him for not offering this woman counseling after she was on the show. Holly, we do not have independent confirmation that this woman was encouraged to behave this way to get on the show. But if Dr. Phil is going to show this kind of abuse, do you think that he has a responsibility to get the people he`s exposing help?</s>HUGHES: Well, absolutely. And I think she should have been given help in lieu of being put on a television show, A.J. And what would have been so awful about having her describe how she punishes the little boy instead of videotaping it and then showing it? I mean, would it not have been enough for her to say to the audience, "When I lose my temper, I put hot sauce on his tongue." But, no, they wanted the big ratings. They wanted the big show, and that`s what they got.</s>HAMMER: Yes. I don`t know who is watching that and saying, "Oh, that`s good. That`s entertaining." All right. We do have move on right now to more big SHOWBIZ justice news tonight involving another mother, of course, who faced charges for allegedly doing something terrible to her child, Casey Anthony. Now, Casey, as we all know, was acquitted of killing her daughter, Caylee. And today, we got dramatic new details of exactly what happened in that jury room everybody is wanting to know. One of the jurors has just revealed all to "People" magazine and he`s so worried about the Casey backlash he wouldn`t reveal his name. Here`s what he just told "People," "The jurors may have acquitted Casey Anthony, but they really didn`t like her. They also thought that she was a horrible person." And the juror says life has been a nightmare for him since the trial ended. "People" magazine`s assistant managing editor, Julie Dam is with us tonight. Julie, considering the jury acquitted Casey, I`ve got to tell you I was really struck by what this juror just told "People" magazine. He said, "Generally, none of us liked Casey Anthony at all. She seems like a horrible person, but the prosecutors did not give us enough evidence to convict." So Julie, what exactly did this juror tell "People" about how torn the jury must have been to find her not guilty on these charges that she murdered Caylee?</s>JULIE DAM, ASSISTANT MANAGING EDITOR, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: Yes. This juror said that, you know, none of them liked her. They felt that she was a bad person. They felt that she probably did something wrong, but there was not enough evidence to - there was reasonable doubt so they could not convict her on the more serious charges. And at the end of the vote, you know, one of the other jurors said to him, you know, "Are you OK with this?" And he said, "No, I`m not OK. I`m not OK but what else can we do?"</s>HAMMER: And it`s a fascinating read. The juror also talking about how his own sister attacked him verbally for this decision and how difficult his life has been for him. Now, on to more SHOWBIZ justice news tonight, dramatic new details revealed today in the case of the missing American woman in Aruba. This is a case that has, of course, gotten everybody thinking again about Natalee Holloway, who still hasn`t been found since disappearing in Aruba. That`s more than six years ago. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter has been following every twist and turn in this case. Kareen joining me now from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom in Hollywood. Kareen?</s>KAREEN WYNTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: A.J., SHOWBIZ TONIGHT learned of brand-new reports today that Robyn Gardner appeared to have been drunk just hours before she went missing. Gardener was last seen alive in a restaurant in Aruba with her companion on the trip, Gary Giordano, who is being held, by the way, by police as the only possible suspect in the case. Now, ABC News today quoted a witness as saying Gardner appeared to be intoxicated and she was also wearing a fancy dress with her hair and make- up done. And you know, A.J., that`s odd because Gary Giordano returned to the same restaurant just a couple hours later to report Robyn had vanished while they were snorkeling. And A.J., there`s even a new photo with time stamp verifying exactly when Giordano and Robyn and when Giordano returned to the restaurant. Bizarre, bizarre case.</s>HAMMER: Yes, very bizarre. So many twists in this. Thanks, Kareen. Let me go back to "In Session`s" Sunny Hostin. What do you make of this? Does it seem to be yet another sign that Giordano`s claim that she went snorkeling and then disappeared, that this claim is now all made up?</s>HOSTIN: It doesn`t make any sense. I think that`s very, very clear. And we`ve got to remember, this investigation is ongoing.</s>HAMMER: Right.</s>HOSTIN: It`s ongoing in Aruba. They`ve been interrogating him so they`re getting more and more information. But I think, A.J, one of the things that`s been missing in this story is the fact that she met him online and that if you look now at his past, there were two women that filed temporary restraining orders against him, one of them his ex-wife. So she really walked into the situation without, I think, knowing the full picture. And that really is the take away here. When you meet someone online, you`ve got to practice online dating safety.</s>HAMMER: Yes. I mean, it`s so amazing to me how many cases that we see that are connected to an online dating hookup.</s>HOSTIN: Yes. Yes.</s>HAMMER: Here`s something that is fascinating, some other brand-new reports that came in today that while they were at the restaurant where Robyn was last seen alive, Gary Giordano apparently suddenly jumped up and announced who they were. This is a very strange thing, but it was so strange that the server reported it to the police. Does it seem to you - I mean, first of all, I don`t understand why anybody would do that. OK, but let`s take a look at this objectively and say maybe he was trying to create an alibi?</s>HOSTIN: Exactly. I mean, that`s what it sounds like. Why would someone do that? And because it`s so odd, you have to try to make sense of the behavior. I would say you can`t really make sense of crazy. I remember saying that so many times as a prosecutor looking at these types of case. But it does sound like he had a plan. Hopefully, the police will get to the bottom of this, but we`ve got a woman just missing as if she vanished. And that is terrifying to me.</s>HAMMER: Yes. And of course, shades of Natalee Holloway here. Do you think there would be this level of interest in this case were it not for our experience with the Natalee Holloway case?</s>HOSTIN: I don`t think so, and that`s one thing I`ve been thinking about. Perhaps that is one of the good things that have come away and come out of the Natalee Holloway case, that people are now paying attention to these kinds of cases, especially had they come from places like Aruba and other</s>HAMMER: Yes. I think it`s just going to continue to get more and more interesting, given these facts that we`ve learned today. Sunny Hostin, thank you as always. Got to move on tonight to the Kardashian porn shocker? Yes. Tonight, how Kim Kardashian`s wedding has now sparked a new frenzy over her infamous sex tape. Did this really come back to haunt Kim again? Tonight, it`s stars to the rescue. I love this. We`ve got new details for you about Kate Winslet saving billionaire Richard Branson`s 90-year-old mom as his mansion burned to the ground. And caught on tape, did Ryan Gosling actually risk his life by breaking up a nasty New York street fight? That`s him in that striped shirt, right there. 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