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LEMON: Stand still, it is movie. Stand Still, the movie. Just when you thought the fiscal cliff talks was at a standstill, so there is word that John Boehner spent today at the White House with Obama, and we like to spend our Sunday afternoons with CNN contributors L.Z. Granderson and Ana Navarro. Hello. L.Z., of course, is a senior writer for ESPN. Ana is Republican consultant and strategist. Good to see both of you. OK?</s>LZ GRANDERSON, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Hey, there.</s>ANA NAVARRO, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Hello. Yes.</s>LEMON: So, John Boehner had some pretty tough words for the president on Friday. Let's listen.</s>REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R-OH), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: There are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue at the president's seat on the table, but none of it will be possible if the president insists on his position, insist on my way or the highway.</s>LEMON: So Ana, he also said the White House has wasted another week, and now two days later, they are meeting again. Did Boehner's remarks make the difference?</s>NAVARRO: Good. Look, I think it's great. We cannot reach a deal if you are posturing and negotiating through press conferences. They need to sit in a room. They need to look at each other. They need to talk constructive debate and they need to move this ball forward. I think what happened today is a very good sign. Americans should be encouraged, it's a good thing when our congressional leadership and our president are actually capable of meeting and talking about the difficult issues that face this country. What a refreshing and new idea.</s>LEMON: Well, when you hear people like -- so you hear members of the GOP, Ana and L.Z.,</s>GRANDERSON: Well, you know, they have to do the posturing in order to make sure the public stays on their side of it, and the constituents think that they are doing something at this that they are doing do whether behind closed doors, honest, absolutely correct. This is the only way they are going to get anything done, sitting in a room, hashing it out. And listen, both of these men are very, very pragmatic. They are both very caution guys. They are not as extreme as some of the voices in their parties happen to be. So, you have two of the most rational politicians in Washington doing what needs to be rushed to be done for the better of the country. I agree, I think it's a good thing, perhaps they both went to see Lincoln together decided we need to get something done like Lincoln did.</s>LEMON: There have you --- like a bromance going on - Ana.</s>NAVARRO: You know, Don, I think you know, Corker, Senator Corker brought up a very good point. This is not the end-all be all of, you know, negotiations. There's a lot of big hairy problems that are facing this country that President Obama is going to want to done. That Congress is going to want done. So, there's a lot of room and a lot of space and time, four long years for negotiations. Sometimes the Democrats will have more leverage and sometimes the Republicans will have more leverage.</s>LEMON: Right. And then everybody always said to, oh, it is not fair, when the other person has more leverage to the other team. It is not fair. it is not fair. Everybody does it.</s>GRANDERSON: It's even not four years. I mean, we want to have a debt ceiling conversation in a few months. You have to remember that this is rapidfire. As soon as we get past the fiscal cliff, President Obama is going to have to meet again with Boehner again to talk about debt ceiling.</s>LEMON: Thank you, Ana. Thank you, L.Z.. Stephen Baldwin was arrested this past week. And when he was released he wanted to come on this show and explain himself. That's next.