African-American Issues at Forefront of Presidential Race
BALDWIN: The barbershop, it's known for politics, it's known for candor, it's known for fiery conversation here and all kinds of perspectives. So I wanted to make sure -- I wanted to hear from all sides, so I was in Atlanta this week. I heard about Trump, I heard about Clinton, and the impact of the black vote on this year's election. You are about to hear more of our candid conversation, six people including Michael Render, AKA Killer Mike, a rapper and activist and the owner of the barber shop; Taj Anwar Baoil, a firefighter and urban farmer; Shelley Winters, Harlem native who is voting for Donald Trump; Jamida Orange, whose father marched many miles with Martin Luther King Jr; Kalonji Changa, a local activist and leader who isn't voting on a national level, period; and Kristen White, an attorney who is all in for Hillary Clinton. Here's the second piece of our conversation when African-American issues are at the forefront.</s>BALDWIN: You're voting local but not for president.</s>KALONJI CHANGA, ACTIVIST: Absolutely.</s>BALDWIN: You're voting for Hillary Clinton.</s>KRISTEN WHITE, ATTORNEY: I'm definitely voting for Hillary Clinton.</s>BALDWIN: You're voting for Donald Trump:</s>SHELLEY WINTERS, HARLEM NATIVE & TRUMP SUPPORTER: I'm voting for Donald Trump.</s>MICHAEL RENDER, RAPPER & ACTIVIST: I'm voting if for whoever gives me something.</s>WINTERS: Four times if I had to.</s>RENDER: If I had to vote on purely ideal, whoever on that day moves the needle closer to ending unemployment in my community, helping education in my community and giving us a fair shake --</s>BALDWIN: Donald Trump says he will go into these neighborhoods, he will help with the economy, he will help bring jobs.</s>WINTERS: He said all of that. Everything Mike just asked for.</s>JAMIDA ORANGE, ACTIVIST: No, no, he said that so that we'll look at him but he's not talking to us at all. He's talking to those white women moderates to say, hey, I'm not racist.</s>BALDWIN: Really?</s>ORANGE: I truly believe that. He ain't talking to us for real.</s>WHITE: Why would he talk to us and insult us? It's a complete insult and I don't think --</s>WINTERS: To tell you the facts.</s>WHITE: I don't need him to tell me the facts of my community that I live in. I don't need you to berate me about my community. If you're not going to come with solutions, I don't want to hear what you have to say.</s>WINTERS: I will give you solutions. First of all, go to Ponce de Leon, 6:30, you'll see a group of Mexicans looking for contract work --</s>RENDER: They are.</s>WINTERS: -- and a group of Hispanics looking for work. By 9:00, the Hispanics are all gone. The brothers are still standing there. So if you start to rail in illegal immigration, you will provide more jobs for African-American men in particular. Do not tell me these are jobs men won't do.</s>WHITE: So now we're sacrificing Hispanics?</s>WINTERS: We're not sacrificing anybody. We're talking about with the plan for black people.</s>WHITE: My plan for black people doesn't include splitting up families.</s>WINTERS: I'm talking about railing in illegal immigration, helping unemployment, charter schools.</s>WINTERS: One of the most crucial aspects of educational reform are charter schools. We know they work. We may not like them. But we know there are charter schools doing yeoman work in our communities.</s>RENDER: Charter schools is a new hustle.</s>RENDER: Come on, man. We got puffy --</s>ORANGE: They don't work! They don't work.</s>WINTERS: Are the kids getting educated?</s>CHANGA: No.</s>RENDER: Everyone knows I'm not pro-charter. But I have a nephew. Charter schools gave my sister a radically different kid.</s>RENDER: I'm from Atlanta. We are indoctrinated with Dr. Martin Luther King. We are I indoctrinated from him. Jamida's father was an organizer. He taught me to organize. This was the first person to really call me leader. He was not passive in his wheel to push forward.</s>ORANGE: But we're fighting about Kaepernick taking the knee.</s>RENDER: Exactly. That's what I'm saying. You want us to be concerned with that and the fact that the black boy, he took the knee, right, he took the knee, sold you more Jerseys, and your punk ass, you should have been out there with him. It's a right cause. I don't even care about the Hillster or the Donster. We need to know what are we going to demand, or we tell them we're not going to vote.</s>TAJ ANWAR BAOIL, ACTIVIST: We're so uninformed because we have such an allegiance to the Democratic Party.</s>CHANGA: The Democratic Party was the Klan's party at first. The slaves were freed by Abe Lincoln, who was a Republican. So we got this whole Democrat/Republican thing mixed up.</s>RENDER: We are married to the Democratic Party. We can't front. As much junk as I talk, at the end of the day, if I vote, more likely I'll vote on the Democratic side because they cut the only deals we have.</s>BALDWIN: But is that taken for granted?</s>RENDER: Yes. Yes.</s>WHITE: We have to protest.</s>CHANGA: Vote on the local level.</s>RENDER: I'm not saying we don't. But I'm saying for the first time in our life we have an opportunity to tell the Democratic Party we might stay home.</s>CHANGA: I think there are a lot of folks voting for the sake of voting. Your father, Dr. King and all these folks, they didn't fight for the right to vote just to cast a ballot, they fought for our self- determination.</s>RENDER: I want black people talking about -- voting is a blood oath. It's a blood oath. I will never not vote locally. But, but, I'm not going to let you pee in a cup and tell me it's lemonade.</s>RENDER: I refuse to not demand something in exchange for my vote. That's it.</s>BALDWIN: What do you think of these conversations? You saw yesterday, today. We have more for tomorrow. Send me a tweet @Brooke/CNN. I'd love to hear from you. Next here, a female college student, a football player, and accusations of rape. She is coming forward publicly because she says authorities didn't do a darn thing.