Second Suspect in Boston Marathon Bombing Captured Alive; Possible Motives for Boston Marathon Bombing Explored
JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: It is the top of the hour. I am Jake Tapper in Boston. This is a special edition of CNN NEWSROOM, covering the capture of the suspect in the Boston terrorist attack and the investigation into it. Boston celebrates the capture of the last suspect in the marathon bombings, and the town is trying to recover. They're playing at Fenway Park, the Boston Red Sox, after postponing Friday's game. But the investigation continues, now that the surviving suspect is in custody at a Boston area hospital. However, 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev did not give up without a fight.</s>TAPPER: He and police exchanged gunfire as Tsarnaev held police at bay in a Watertown, Massachusetts backyard. Here is a CBS News photograph. He used a boat to shield himself in the final standoff. Police say he was wounded and covered with blood. They rushed him to the hospital where he is now under guard. Earlier we got the inside story on how the capture went down. Wolf Blitzer talked with the police chief of Watertown in a revealing conversation. Let's take a brief listen.</s>CHIEF EDWARD DEVEAU, WATERTOWN, MASSACHUSETTS POLICE: We had a couple thousand police officers on scene. The turnout was incredible, the support from the state and the region. We had the tactical people to close that seam down and secure it. We did take our time to make sure that everybody was safe in the neighborhood. And eventually we had to use some flash bangs to render the subject --</s>WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST, "THE SITUATION ROOM": What is that?</s>DEVEAU: It is a loud compression that would stun somebody for a short period of time. And then we began negotiations in a 15, 20 minute period. We were able to get him to stand up and show us that he didn't have a device on him.</s>BLITZER: So he's lying in the boat, been there several hours, he's wounded clearly, right, he's bleeding.</s>DEVEAU: Right.</s>BLITZER: He's obviously weak. You come over there, what do you say to him? You have a bull horn, you say "Come out with your hands up"?</s>DEVEAU: We have a negotiator actually on the second floor of the house looking down at the boat.</s>BLITZER: You could see him?</s>DEVEAU: No, we couldn't see him. There was a plastic top over them. We had the state police helicopter say when there was movement in the boat from the heat sensor. We could tell he was alive and moving. We began negotiations that way. And over a long period of time, we were able to finally get him to surrender.</s>TAPPER: Right now, there's heavy police presence in the Boston Beth Israel medical center. That is the hospital where Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the suspect, is recovering after being seriously injured. Senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen is outside that hospital. Elizabeth, federal prosecutors are inside. Of course, the question, could the suspect be charged today?</s>ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, that's a definite possibility, Jake. Our colleague, Pamela Brown, spoke to an official at the justice department and this person told her that they thought it was highly possible he could be charged before he leaves the hospital. Of course, we don't know when that's going to be. We don't know how seriously he is wounded or hurt. He's in serious condition, but that doesn't really necessarily tell you a whole lot. We are expecting an update on his condition, but I don't think we're going to get many details, just a one word, "serious" or "stable." Probably won't learn much about what actually is going on inside. Jake?</s>TAPPER: Elizabeth, there's a photograph of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev after he was apprehended, it was from I think the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, a picture of him down, and he was being intubated, a tube being put in his mouth to help with his breathing. That would suggest that he was in bad condition there. Explain to people when people say he's in serious condition but not critical condition, what exactly is the difference?</s>COHEN: Critical condition often means someone's life is on the line, they're not really sure if he is going to survive. So it sounds like they feel that he is going to survive. Certainly the fact he was intubated tells us something, tells us that this is not just, you know, a small thing. But the fact that it is serious enough, critical, means he is likely to survive.</s>TAPPER: All right, Elizabeth, thank you so much. With the hunt over for the suspects, one dead, one in custody, investigators are focusing on the full puzzle. They want to find out what motivated these two brothers, described by many that knew them years before as normal, but they're certainly not normal. CNN analyst and "Boston Globe" columnist Juliette Kayyem is here. Juliette, we heard from the Watertown police chief, told us it looks as though the suspects acted alone. How can they be so sure?</s>JULIETTE KAYYEM, "BOSTON GLOBE" COLUMNIST: I'm not sure we know exactly now what happened in the process clearly between 2008 and now, especially with the older brother. And what we're starting to hear is that something changed with the older brother over the course of the years. So people have to be really patient about this investigation because it will lead clearly to foreign travel abroad --</s>TAPPER: The older brother, Tamerlan was in Russia in 2012.</s>KAYYEM: 2012.</s>TAPPER: Six months.</s>KAYYEM: Yes, so relatively recently. Who did he meet with? What did he learn? What happened when they came back here? The investigation will take place here, was there anyone else here or any other aspects of the case that will help figure out the whys and hows that are important to us, and of course abroad. So there's a huge focus on both those parts, and it actually began Wednesday when they were able to identify who the brothers were.</s>TAPPER: It is impossible to think the older brother spent six months in Russia and that had nothing to do with this.</s>KAYYEM: Right. Right now if you're looking at it from the facts that are known right now. Maybe those six months really did radicalize him and he learned techniques to come here. But I have been through enough cases, know enough about these cases that I am very cautious about sort of looking at what we know now and saying that was the moment. We learned so much about other terrorists or even sociopaths, weeks or months later -- we spoke about Columbine, everything we thought about the Columbine killers, not to say that the brothers are similar, ended up being not true years later. So it's going to take some patience. We all want to know the why. We want to determine if we can stop it again, that's the primary focus, stop future copy cats or other terrorists from doing this. But the why may take a little longer than stopping them and the capture.</s>TAPPER: And very briefly, there was a national public radio report last night about an interview with the three roommates of the older brother's soon to be wife, girlfriend at the time. And the three roommates said between 2008, 2009, that's when he seemed to become radicalized, talking about how Islam was under attack, criticizing his wife, demanding she wear modest dress, a hijab. And so if he went to Russia 2012, it would suggest that 2012 wasn't necessarily when everything went wrong.</s>KAYYEM: Right. And that's going to be -- there have been home grown terrorists, radicalization internally. I know this is scary for Americans to think there are people here from all over the world who can be disruptive, but one way to look at this is some of the successes of counter terrorism efforts have -- means there will be people who do bad things, but they're not going to do sort of horrific crisis things like 9/11. So in some ways we talk about resiliency, the city, baseball games being played, people are complaining about the weather, so I feel like we are back to normal. When you talk about resiliency, it is also anticipating this could happen again, and learning from the investigation and response.</s>TAPPER: Thank you, Juliette. Speaking about complaining of the weather, it is freezing. What is going on? It is April. All right, a lot more to go on this. Thank you so much. We will talk to you later today. It's one of the most visible signs of Boston, beginning to heal right now. Fenway Park, as Juliette mentioned, is alive with Red Sox fans cheering on the hometown and home team. John Berman joins me live at the ballpark. J.B., you there?</s>BERMAN: I am here, Jake, indeed. It is warming all our hearts to be here at Fenway today with 35,000 of our Bostonian brothers and sisters right now. It has been an unbelievable day. It began with a very special ceremony before the game when we saw victims of the attacks in the Boston Marathon. We saw first responders, and saw a remarkable thing, we heard it, too, when the entire crowd sang the National Anthem again in unison. That has become a new Boston tradition, one I think that will truly stick. I spoke to a number of fans here who came to this game. They said it was very, very special for them to be here. I think none more so than this woman I met who was actually from the town of Watertown. Yesterday she was locked down, sheltering in place, and today she's at Fenway. Let's listen to what she said.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was a surreal experience. It was like this morning I woke up and I was like I am so grateful that I don't have to wake up feeling like I did yesterday every day. I just felt totally lucky to be a resident of Watertown and a citizen of this country.</s>BERMAN: A lot of people have these signs here that say "Boston Strong." I think in one of the moments that will resonate for a long, long time here, David Ortiz, the Red Sox designated hitter took the field before the game, and in front of the live crowd and live television audience watching, he said "This is our bleeping city." And as you can imagine, Jake, the place went nuts.</s>TAPPER: Berman, I am wearing that Red Sox hat on again, I want you to know. One quick question -- have you seen an increase in security? Pat downs, metal detectors?</s>BERMAN: Absolutely. There was a long line. I am outside Gate B, these are the cheap seats, but some of the best seats, you come to the bleachers, sit in back, watch the game. There was a long line well after the game began. They were giving extra pat downs. I saw much greater security presence than I've ever seen here.</s>TAPPER: John Berman, thank you so much. A big break in the bombing investigation came from the use of digital forensics. And coming up we'll show you how something as simple as a cellphone is making a big difference in catching suspects and solving big cases. Our live coverage continues from Boston. Stay right here.