Americans Jailed in Haiti; Quake Survivor Rescued
SANCHEZ: Boy, this is one I was just reading about on the tweet board here. People are asking and talking about it. Ten American missionaries in Haiti have lost representation. Their Haitian lawyer quit. There was a hearing in Haiti today, a petition for bail. Brooke Baldwin has been following this story for us here. There's a lot of new information. And I did read one report that seemed to suggest that there may be some information coming in from Santo Domingo that may be in their favor?</s>BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: May be in their favor. So let me just back up for a second...</s>SANCHEZ: Go ahead.</s>BALDWIN: ... because the entire reason the first five of these 10 Baptist missionaries were in court today, because they're petitioning for this bail. Keep in mind, in Haiti, if you're charged with child kidnapping, there is no bail. So, these first five, including the leader of the group, Laura Silsby, they're in this courtroom. Meantime, according to our crews on the ground following the story, a half hour later a Dominican attorney shows up. And he is there representing this entire group. And it's what he had in his hand that caught the attention of our own Karl Penhaul. He had a manila envelope just like this. Now, he didn't show Karl what was inside the envelope, but he told Karl inside that envelope was documents proving that this group had talked to the Dominican Republic government saying, yes, you can come to our country to start up this orphanage. Now, keep in mind, that is completely contrary to what the Dominican consul told them and told us. We have that sound bite for you. Listen to this.</s>CARLOS CASTILLO, DOMINICAN CONSUL GENERAL TO:  HAITI: And I warned her. I said, "As soon as you get there without the proper documents, you're going to get in trouble, because they're going to accuse you because you have the intent to pass the border without the proper papers, and they're going to accuse you of kids' trafficking."</s>BALDWIN: So were they told to come or were they told not to come?</s>SANCHEZ: Well, and remember, so what? The children they're taking from Haiti are Haitian children.</s>BALDWIN: Correct, and you would have to have Haitian government children to take Haitian children out of Haiti.</s>SANCHEZ: That would be like me taking somebody else's kid out of the United States and then arriving in Venezuela, let's say, and saying, well, the Venezuelan government said it was OK. Well, the U.S. government didn't say it was OK.</s>BALDWIN: Correct, but it's possibly a piece of evidence in their favor, as you said. And we don't know yet.</s>SANCHEZ: Right. Right. It might bolster their argument at best.</s>BALDWIN: Also...</s>SANCHEZ: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Go ahead. All right. Stay with me. We've got breaking news coming in. I think it's about this story. Dr. Sanjay Gupta is standing by right now in Haiti. He's at a hospital there in Haiti. Not sure what he's reporting. Sanjay, bring us up to date. You've got it cold, man.</s>SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Rick, we got a tip not that long ago that a survivor from the time of the earthquake had been brought in here to the hospital at the airport. It's called a medishare (ph) hospital. It's run by the University of Miami. They weren't sure what -- can you hear me?</s>SANCHEZ: Yes. I got you. I got you. We lost you for a minute.</s>GUPTA: I apologize. Anyway, the patient was brought in here to the hospital, and, you know, like I said, we didn't quite know what to make of that. We came in here, spoke to the doctors, spoke to some of the people who saw him initially. And this sounds like it's real, at least according to the doctors, in the sense that this patient who's 28 years old -- his name is Evans Monsanyik (ph) -- was trapped at the time of the earthquake, nearly four weeks ago -- four weeks ago tomorrow, Rick, as you know. And he basically was brought in very dehydrated, very malnourished. But the doctors tell me that his vital signs and his blood pressure and heart rate was pretty stable. They checked some of the his lab work, which was consistent with someone who would be very dehydrated. But he's awake, but confused. And that's sort of the shape that he's in right now. Doctors are busy resuscitating him. One thing I'll just tell you really quick, Rick, if I can. He said that someone came in a white coat at a few times during the last four weeks to give him some water. He was trapped. And we don't know if he was hallucinating as he's describing this, but he said at various times when he thought he was going to die, someone showed up in a white coat and gave him some water, which obviously is very relevant to the story in terms of survival -- Rick.</s>SANCHEZ: Wow. Stay with me. Hey, Roger (ph), do you have some pictures out of the Haiti earthquake? See if you can put those up just so we can get a sense. Do you know at this point, Sanjay -- I know it's preliminary, I know this guy, what you need to do is make sure he lives, not start asking him a bevy of questions. But do we know under what conditions he was trapped these -- going on four weeks?</s>GUPTA: We know one critical piece of information is he does not appear to have any significant crush injuries, Rick, something that we've been talking about for a few weeks now, where a piece of rubble actually crushes one of his limbs.</s>SANCHEZ: Right.</s>GUPTA: It seems like he was mainly pinned, but not crushed, so he couldn't get out. And, you know, he eventually was hearing -- at least according to some of the people around him -- was hearing bulldozers around him, knew that rubble was starting to get cleared, and was concerned himself that a bulldozer might be coming to his area specifically.</s>SANCHEZ: But you know as a doctor, four weeks without water is all but right on the cusp of almost being humanly impossible, isn't it?</s>GUPTA: I think it's safe to say it is impossible, which makes me believe that in some way he had access to water, whether someone was giving him water, recognized that he was trapped or couldn't free him, but just decided to bring him water, or he somehow had access to water and was cognizant enough to be able drink it. But I think, Rick, you're safe in saying that. We don't know what the human limit is without water because doing a study like that would be unethical. But I think four weeks is simply too long. You're right -- Rick.</s>SANCHEZ: That's unbelievable. And his condition -- again, you may have mentioned this at the beginning, but take us through it again. Is he going to make it? Is he all right?</s>GUPTA: I think so. I talked to the doctors who are caring for him, and at this point they are optimistic that he's going to make it. His vital signs, including his heart rate and blood pressure, were remarkably OK when he came in. He did have some lab work done that showed some findings that basically would be consistent with someone who is deeply dehydrated. Some of his lab results showed that. He's very, very skinny, very, very malnourished. But he is confused right now neurologically, which is part of the reason that we're not going to film him. Because we want to wait until he's more awake and understands what's happening before we do that. But this is what we're hearing, and that seems to be the shape that he's in. Rick, have you seen some photographs? We sent over some photographs which were authorized by his family to show you. I don't know if you've seen those. He is very malnourished.</s>SANCHEZ: I don't think -- let me ask -- hold on, Sanjay. Let me ask the producers. She's saying it's PC-103 if we have that. All right. There it is. Yes. Did you take this picture, Sanjay?</s>GUPTA: One of the doctors who's caring for him took that with the permission of his family. You know, they did not want, because of his confusion right now, Rick, to take any video, but the family did allow a photograph to be taken. We don't know what he looked like before the earthquake, so we don't know how much weight he's lost. But the family seems to think it was around 30 pounds or so that he's lost over this time period.</s>SANCHEZ: Wow.</s>BALDWIN: Wow.</s>SANCHEZ: What a story.</s>BALDWIN: Twenty-seven days.</s>GUPTA: Twenty-seven days. It is remarkable. And I think we'll get some more details on exactly how he was able to survive. But again, we didn't know what to believe when we came over. We talked to lots of doctors, we talked to the nurses that care for him. We talked to some of the people that brought him in initially, and they believe it's true. We still are investigating, but we're bringing it to you only because there does seem to be some veracity to this -- Rick.</s>SANCHEZ: You know, I was just thinking -- I was thinking of one more thing, because here we are talking about the body's physical limitations and whether you can go this time without water. How about the mental limitations? Could you imagine being trapped for almost four weeks in a place like that and what can happen to your mind?</s>BALDWIN: Well, he mentioned neurological implications, but you're speaking psychological?</s>SANCHEZ: Well, yes. No, I'm talking about your cranium disorders.</s>BALDWIN: You're saying mentally.</s>SANCHEZ: I'm talking about literally that sense that you're trapped in a place, you can't get out, it's dark, you don't know what's going on outside. You lose complete control, and somehow you have the will...</s>BALDWIN: To survive.</s>SANCHEZ: ... to survive and make it out. Sanjay, I don't know if you can speak to that. It's something that may be more theological.</s>GUPTA: Well, no. I think it's very fair, and I think that's one of the things he's probably dealing with right now. He is very confused. I think some of the comments that he's made is he still thought he was under the building up until recently. Again, I mentioned this white-coated person that would give him water. We don't know what to make of that. Who was that? Was that a real person, or what exactly happened there? The other thing that I think was a bit haunting -- and he talked about this -- was this idea that he heard bulldozers coming, Rick. I mean, as you know, this has turned from a search and rescue mission to a search and recovery mission. I cannot imagine what it must have been like to hear bulldozers coming thinking that the building in which you're trapped may be excavated. And this is an unbelievably difficult thing to even imagine or talk about, but this is what he has said.</s>SANCHEZ: And there you would go with it. And again, back to the idea that you have no control in a situation like this. Sanjay, heck of a report. Hey, thanks for reaching out to us and sharing this with us. Let us know if you learn anything else.</s>GUPTA: We will.</s>SANCHEZ: It obviously is a story that we're going to be continuing to check up on as we get more information.</s>BALDWIN: Right. And I think Sanjay is there for the week. This will be the one-month anniversary this week. I think today is day 27 since that quake.</s>SANCHEZ: And we continue to cover the story of the missionaries, the Baptist missionaries from Idaho as well, that you were bringing us up to date on. All right. You stay on top of that as well.</s>BALDWIN: You got it.</s>SANCHEZ: What a story. Boy, I tell you, ,a real head-shaker. Conrad Murray is the doctor who police are saying was linked to the death of Michael Jackson, and the news right now is that he is inside a courtroom. It's taking quite a bit for him to surrender. I imagine there's a hearing going on. In fact, there is a hearing going on. One of our reporters is in that hearing. He's going to be joining us in just a little bit to let us know what actually happened inside that courtroom. Also, the president's deputy secretary adviser, John Brennan, attacked Republicans for use terrorism as a political weapon against the president. He's speaking specifically of the Christmas Day bomber case, and we'll let you know exactly what he says and what all the hullabaloo is about it. Stay there. I'm Rick Sanchez. We'll be right back. This is RICK'S LIST.