Glamour's Sophia Chabbott poses in the outfit she wore to her Orthodox Jewish divorce ceremony.  In the "I Got Divorced" episode of What I Wore When ... , Glamour editor Sophia Chabbott describes what she wore to her Orthodox Jewish divorce ceremony. Wailin Wong, host of The Distance podcast, says, "To me it's really beautiful because she talks about how she wasn't allowed to speak during that ceremony, but the clothes spoke for her; the clothes gave her a language, a vocabulary to work with when she felt very vulnerable." Click here to listen to "I Got Divorced," Wong's favorite episode. And for more great podcast recommendations, visit earbud.fm.
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