Sen. Cruz Booed After Failing To Endorse Trump; NYT: Trump Sets Conditions For Defending NATO Allies; Ivanka On Growing Up Trump.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If you love our country and love your children as much as I know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience. Vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.</s>CAMEROTA: All right, that was Sen. Ted Cruz last night, and his speech has people here at the Republican Convention talking. The Texas senator did not endorse Donald Trump and he left the stage to loud boos. Here to discuss is former Republican governor of Texas and former presidential candidate, Rick Perry. He has endorsed Donald Trump. Governor, thanks so much for being here.</s>RICK PERRY (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, FORMER GOVERNOR OF TEXAS: You're welcome.</s>CAMEROTA: What did you think of what Ted Cruz did last night?</s>PERRY: Well, I wasn't on the floor so I didn't get the full impact, but I was watching it on T.V. so -- you know, if a convention's goal is to unite your party behind one candidate, Sen. Cruz didn't get the memo.</s>CAMEROTA: That went off message. I mean, you know, do you think that the Trump campaign knew he was going to do that?</s>PERRY: I suspect they did. I mean, again, I don't know all inner workings and behind the scenes, but I would have been shocked if they didn't have a preview of that speech before it was given, so probably one of the reasons that Mr. Trump made a very dramatic entry at a particular time last night. So, listen, this is about the party coming behind Donald Trump and I've been very vocal about that -- listen, nobody peeled Donald Trump's skin off any more than I did during the primary process. It was a --</s>CAMEROTA: You called him a cancer on conservatism.</s>PERRY: I said some very harsh things, he said some harsh things. There were, you know, 15 -- excuse me, 14 other people that were saying some harsh things, by and large. Some were not quite as harsh, but the --</s>CAMEROTA: As colorful as yours.</s>PERRY: The point is, I'm a competitor. I understand how this process works and at the end of the day we all made a pledge that we were going to support our nominee. And if you don't want to keep your word then don't be signing pledges, is kind of one of the things I look at.</s>CAMEROTA: But what's more important, a pledge or your principles?</s>PERRY: Well --</s>CAMEROTA: I mean, can't you argue that Ted Cruz was standing on principle last night?</s>PERRY: You know, I'll let him make that argument. I'm more interested in a Republican being the president of the United States and Donald Trump, in this case, who is our nominee, making the appointment to the Supreme Court. I don't want to have to go back to Texas and explain to people why I was part of the problem, not part of the solution and a very left- leaning Ginsburg clone is put on the Supreme Court next spring because I couldn't bring myself to support Donald Trump. That's a pretty hard argument, I think, to make.</s>CAMEROTA: So there was no part of you last night as you watched Ted Cruz that you thought, good for you?</s>PERRY: No, not at all. I think it was -- I think it was a bad call, from my perspective.</s>CAMEROTA: So, about party unity, it didn't feel like that was happening, to your point, last night and it hasn't felt every night as though it's really coalescing. Where do you think the party is right now?</s>PERRY: Well, at the end of the day, this is going to be about Donald Trump going out, laying out his vision for America. He's going to talk about how to build our military back up. That's one of my big focuses. Not only how to bring our young men and women in the military to a very high comfort level that not only the resource is going to be there, but if they get in a sling halfway around the world the United States is going to be there to help them and use every resource they have to bring them home and bring them home safe. Hillary Clinton has a problem with that. I mean, after Benghazi, these emails that were top secret -- you know, I'm here with Marcus Luttrell and Marcus is very concerned that his brothers in arms have been compromised because of Hillary Clinton's interest in protecting her political world. And that's just a very corrosive thought process. Obviously, Donald Trump's going to go out and make the pitch and lay out his ideas to how to get America's economy back on track. He's going to talk about how to secure the border so that our communities are safe. Those are the things we're focused on.</s>CAMEROTA: Did you read his comments in "The New York Times" about NATO and whether or not he would just, across the board, support the allies?</s>PERRY: I think it's time for us to have a conversation about is NATO -- are the members of NATO doing their part?</s>CAMEROTA: So you agree with Trump?</s>PERRY: Are they living up --</s>CAMEROTA: You agree that there could --</s>PERRY: Listen --</s>CAMEROTA: There should be conditions?</s>PERRY: I was one of the people back five years ago that called for -- if you'll recall, I think it was a CNN debate, as a matter of fact, where I called the Turkish government terrorists because of the way that they were treating their own people in their country. We look at what happened there about a week ago and there may be a lot more people going, you know what, Perry was kind of prescient. I called for zero-based funding of foreign aid, so the idea that we ought to say hey, NATO, you want to be a part of NATO, you do your part. Don't expect Americans to come in here, pick up all the costs, and send our young men and women to die in your countries when you're sending -- Marcus and I were talking about this walking over here. He said in his entire time of being deployed -- and this young man got deployed a lot -- he said, I saw four French Foreign Legion guys during that entire period of time. He said that doesn't build a lot of confidence in us that they're going to be there. So, I don't have a problem with us having a conversation about, you know, is -- are you pulling your part of the wagon or are you expecting America to come do all the heavy lifting and paying a huge price, both in our treasure or money and our treasure of our young people.</s>CAMEROTA: Governor Perry, thanks so much --</s>PERRY: You're welcome.</s>CAMEROTA: -- for being on NEW DAY. Great to see you.</s>PERRY: Thank you.</s>CAMEROTA: Well, Donald Trump making headlines around the world for what we've been talking about, these controversial comments about defending our allies. So what does the man behind Brexit think about Trump's foreign vision? We will ask him, next.