Could Iran Kick Off the Apocalypse?
BECK: Hello, Tom. You`re on the "Glenn Beck" program.</s>CALLER: Hello, Glenn.</s>BECK: Hello, Tom.</s>CALLER: You`re -- you`re a great host. I love listening to you every single day. My question to you is as a religious scholar, what do you -- what are you personally doing today...</s>BECK: Yes.</s>CALLER: ... due to the numerological sequence thing to try to not end up damning yourself to hell?</s>BECK: Well, as a theologian, what I`m doing today is I am super- sizing everything I might get at McDonald`s. I`m just saying I think I read that someplace in the Bible.</s>BECK: All right. Here`s another sign of the apocalypse. The European Union`s made a little proposal to Iran today. They`re basically saying, "Hey Iran, why don`t you take some of our aircraft, some agricultural technology, and a free ticket to the World Trade Organization. Just don`t make any nukes, OK?" Also, the United States is going to kick in nuclear technology for a "civilian energy" program. Right. Why don`t we just give Iran your lunch money while you`re at it? If -- if you`re a country that needs bribes and incentives to not make a doomsday device, I think there`s something wrong there. What would we do if Iran were developing giant space lasers that were pointed right at the Statue of Liberty? "Hey, we`ll give you a new car if you stop, OK?" Here`s the proposal I`d like to make: stop making nukes, or we`ll turn Tehran into a parking lot. That`s a little hatemongerish, sure. Bob Baer used to be with the CIA, just written a novel, "Blow the House Down". Bob, let me ask you a question. Why, why would we do this and offer them al kinds of incentives?</s>BOB BAER, AUTHOR, "BLOW THE HOUSE DOWN": Well, you know, if you want to get to the heart of the matter right away, the president is nuts, the new president of Iran.</s>BECK: Oh, new president. OK. All right.</s>BAER: The new president.</s>BECK: I thought you meant our president.</s>BAER: Well...</s>BECK: And I think, I don`t agree with him, but I don`t think he`s nuts.</s>BAER: Well, you know, this guy`s in a category by himself. Let me give you an idea what he does. Almost every Friday he goes down to the Jamkan (ph) mosque and he`s got these little Post-Its. And he writes. You know, he asks questions on them and drops them down this well to talk to the hidden imam who disappeared hundreds of years ago, who`s been dead for hundreds of years. And this is the kind of, you know, man we`re dealing with.</s>BECK: So this is why I say -- because I`m a conservative man. And I have really supported George W. Bush all the way. But he`s not making sense to me right now. Why are we getting into bed with somebody who`s nuts, who`s crazy? I -- is it because we`re just trying to bring France and Germany and Russia into bed with us?</s>BAER: I think what`s going to happen is he`s going to give the international community the full benefit about the doubt on this, Russia and China in particular. The Europeans said, "Look, we tried to deal with this guy. We have no choice but resort to a strike." This is not going to play out the way we think it is today. It`s not going to go peacefully. We probably will be in conflict with Iran within the next year.</s>BECK: But see -- wow.</s>BAER: So I mean, I don`t -- I think what they`re doing is right. You know, pretend to go along, give them the benefit of the doubt.</s>BECK: But, see, every time we do this, it`s a delay tactic. It`s a delay. You know you can`t trust France, Russia. Like they`re going -- like they`re going to actually be men and women of their word? No, they`re not going to. So it`s a delay tactic. And it gives Iran more and more time. I`m not suggests a strike in Iran right now. Obviously, I don`t know what to do. It is a frightening situation. Let me -- let me ask you, do you think this is a more precarious situation now than the height of the Cold War?</s>BAER: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I was just in Beirut. And I sat down with a guy from Hezbollah. And he said to me, he said, you know, "If you guys hit Iran, don`t ever get on an airplane for the next six months." I mean, it was a bald threat like that.</s>BECK: But what -- how else do you solve it? If we don`t hit them, you know Israel will hit them. And I mean, how does -- here we are on 6-6- 06. How does this not end in Armageddon?</s>BAER: Well, I think the apocalypse -- and they`re looking at it in apocalyptic terms, the Iranians. I mean, this guy...</s>BECK: This isn`t fun -- this is really not a fun interview. I don`t know. Come with me just for a second, will you? Come on over here. Let`s just move it a little closer. OK. Go ahead. So, anyway, you`re saying now that you think this is the apocalypse possibly?</s>BAER: Look, you know, these guys are talking about taking the world`s oil supplies off the market for years by blowing them up in the gulf. I mean, these are the kind of terms we`re dealing with. We`re talking about nuking Iran. They`re talking about driving oil up to $200, $300. It`s not a pretty picture.</s>BECK: Holy cow. So what`s the next step? What are the things that we should be looking for? What are the things that you`re like, if you start to see this, freak out?</s>BAER: I -- you know, if the negotiations fall apart and the Israelis say, "We`re doing it alone" because the Israelis don`t want to sitting in Tel Aviv...</s>BECK: Right.</s>BAER: ... with this guy with a nuke with his finger on the trigger, because he`s crazy. He has a member of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. He`s got American and Israeli blood on his hands.</s>BECK: Right.</s>BAER: He can`t be trusted with a nuke, much less than Pakistan.</s>BECK: Well, I got to tell you, Bob. I want to party with you, dude. Because it would be -- it would be fun.</s>BAER: I`m sorry.</s>BECK: No, no. I appreciate it. Bob, thank you so much. We`ll have you on again.</s>BAER: Thanks for having me.