On The Beat With W. Kamau Bell; Battle Over The 'Bathroom Bill'.
LEMON: Everybody is buzzing tonight about Donald Trump and the tale of the tape. Here to weigh in now, W. Kamau Bell, the host of CNN's United Shades of America. Happy Friday, sir.</s>BELL: Happy Friday the 13th. I just want to confirm, you say I'm me. I can't confirm that I am me. Maybe I'm not me. I'm taking a lesson from Trump.</s>LEMON: OK. Serious face, because I've been wanting to ask you about this story that we have been talking about, this, you know, the old tape of what appears to be Donald Trump pretending to be his own publicist, right, and now denying it. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.</s>BELL: I mean, the funny thing is, we've all done this. It's just all of us who have done this didn't end up running for president. I've pretended to be my own boss, I called school and pretended to my mom to get me out of school. They're like, you have a deep voice lady. We've all done this. If he just owned up and admitted it, we could accept it. But he refuses to be honest in any way, even when it's about ridiculous stuff.</s>LEMON: So then, why should something like this that happened many years ago, 25 years ago, if not more, why should it affect his bid for the presidency? Does it matter to you?</s>BELL: If this was the only thing we had, we might be able to go, that's silly, Donald Trump. But he -- literally, this is the straw that is breaking the GOP's back at this point, you know. It's like -- forget skeletons in the closet. Donald Trump has a closet built of skeletons. This is just -- considering everything else that happened this week with his butler. First of all, he has a butler. Like, I mean ...</s>LEMON: let's talk about that for a second. I didn't want to say that in the other segment when the guy said, you know, and now, you know, ask your butler. I was like, who has a butler? Like not very few people</s>BELL: Donald Trump is basically Daddy Warbucks without the adorable orphan at this point.</s>LEMON: OK. Listen, let's talk about your new show, which is doing really well. Congratulations, by the way. We're very happy for you and very proud of you.</s>BELL: Thank you.</s>LEMON: So this week's episode, you spent time with the Police Department of Camden, New Jersey. Let's look at it.</s>BELL: So this is the shooting range.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir.</s>BELL: And this is where you guys come down here and practice and keep your skills tight like yeah .</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pretty much. The threat has officially stopped.</s>BELL: Wow. Now, in the news a lot of times, people ask why didn't the cop shoot him in the leg and, you know, wound him and then -- so the person could still be alive. So tell me why it's center mass and not those other things?</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shall I give it to you in one word and explain it? Hollywood. Unfortunately, we're not all Bruce Willis and Denzel Washington in real life. If we go to shoot for the arm or for the leg, if he moves, it might go in the back and shoot, you know, baby Suzy and we don't want that.</s>LEMON: Wow. What did you learn?</s>BELL: Yeah, I mean, it was a -- I mean, this is by far probably the least funniest episode of the show. I know I'm a comedian, but it was really an opportunity to sit down and talk directly to police officers in Camden, New Jersey about what it is to be a police officer and how they're trying to do it differently with community policing. So, what they're trying to do is go back to an old school style of policing where they actually engage with the community and actually talk to the residents and then know the people in the community. And so, that when things go badly, they actually know who to talk to and who to target and hate those to work in like that.</s>LEMON: Before we run out of time, I want to ask you this because, you know, you and I have been on the air. We have been talking about this tension between people of color, you know, African-American community and U.S. law enforcement, right, and police officers. Is there anything that you learned or changed your mind about the whole situation or that you can enlighten our audience about in that -- in that respect?</s>BELL: What I learned is that it's a complicated problem and we can't expect anyone thing just make a solution happen. I think that the thing that the Camden Police Force is doing is acknowledging that they have done a poor job in the past of policing Camden. And most police departments don't do that. So, that's the start, but it's the very tip of the start. Most in the police departments won't acknowledge they've done a poor job of policing black communities, Camden is doing that. It's the beginning of a start, but it's not the thing.</s>LEMON: Listen, today, the Obama administration called the public school districts nationwide to allow transgender students to use their bathrooms that matches their gender identity. They quickly -- I'm out of time here. What do you think that, good move?</s>BELL: Yeah. I think that you can -- you should be allowed to use the bathroom you feel comfortable and -- and there's a lot of bathrooms that happens already where multiple genders were allowed to use the bathroom. It's called my house.</s>LEMON: Yeah.</s>BELL: We let anybody use the bathroom at my house who needs to go to the bathroom.</s>LEMON: Thank you, sir. Have a great weekend. We'll be watching this weekend.</s>BELL: Thank you.</s>LEMON: You can catch W. Kamau Bell on United Shades of America, Sunday nights at 10:00 right here on CNN. It's a great program. Make sure you tune in, Sunday nights at 10:00 here on CNN, United Shades of America. We'll be right back.