Woman Keeps Body of Deceased Husband at Her House
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the spot inside her</s>ILA SOLOMON: I know I did commit failure to report. And that is a crime.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Solomon told officers that Gavan was traveling with her sister and brother-in-law saying they went to the Kentucky Derby. When police asked about Gavan`s health, she told them that he suffered a stroke and was in an assisted living facility.</s>SOLOMON: I know he went and got a haircut that day and I know he went over to McDonald`s and had a cup of coffee that day.</s>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Solomon says Gavan died April 28th from a stroke and she claims her husband wanted to be eaten by birds following his death. So she opened up windows and doors every day after he died.</s>SOLOMON: So, he wanted me to open the doors so the birds from the ravine would come in, but the birds never came in.</s>PINSKY: Oh my god. I`m back with Sam, Anahita, Karamo and every - it is the story you`re tweeting about most tonight. That woman kept her husband, her dead husband`s body in the house for nine months. Whole time, she cashed in his Social Security - his Social Security and pension checks. Oops! Now she`s facing fraud charges. She`s not charged with having harmed him. Only failure to dispose properly of the body. Anahita, do you think there was something sinister here or is this just a scam?</s>SEDAGHATFAR: I would like to see what the toxicology report and autopsy report show as the cause of death before I decide, but based on what I know already, I think she`s more mentally ill, Dr. Drew, than she`s criminal or sinister or evil because what sane person can live with a decomposing dead body in the same house for nine months? That is just not normal. And then she is talking about how her husband wanted to be eaten by birds as part of some ritual. That just sounds delusional to me. So, I think she needs help more than she needs to be ...</s>PINSKY: How dare you judge somebody`s rituals, somebody`s after ...</s>SEDAGHATFAR: It`s so bizarre.</s>PINSKY: The rituals. Sam, isn`t there some weird ritual that they were alluding to there?</s>SCHACHER: Yeah. We did some research on this ritual, Dr. Drew. It is called the sky burial and it`s a process in which the remains of the deceased are fed to vultures. The custom is known as Jahartar (ph), excuse my accent, I guess.</s>SCHACHER: Which means giving alms to the birds. But Dr. Drew, then why isn`t the body, as Anahita said, why is he sitting in the middle of the living room, why wouldn`t she at least move the body to the outdoors?</s>PINSKY: Listen. Nothing, nothing entertained me more than look on Karamo`s face when you read about it, Fartar, whatever that ritual is ...</s>SCHACHER: Jahartar.</s>PINSKY: So, Karamo, go ahead.</s>BROWN: I can`t help it. This woman is crazy. She`s sick in the head. The minute I read this, I immediately started laughing because I thought this had to be a joke. There`s no way that this woman left a body in the middle of her house and then said I wanted birds to eat it. Girl, bye.</s>BROWN: Get out of here. You are a nut. What is wrong with you? I have no words for this woman.</s>PINSKY: Yeah. Hang up with that tweet back up you guys just had here. Basically tweet said that some -- it`s gone. That this woman, that whoever sent that tweet to us, believes this story more than the last story about the autistic kid. But Evy, let me have bring you in here at this point. I don`t actually see -- I mean, there`s weirdness in this story, but I don`t actually see objective evidence of mental illness. I see somebody cashing a check for nine months.</s>POUMPOURAS: You know, that`s so it`s so funny to say that - some of the first cases I worked when I started working as a special agent with fraud against the government, people who say I didn`t get my Social Security check or whatever and I worked a lot of cases where there were people that did not report when the loved one was deceased so they could continue cashing those checks. So, I have worked tons of those cases. I have to say, though, I have never worked a case where they ...</s>SCHACHER: Where they actually didn`t do anything with the body. I shouldn`t be laughing. This is terrible. But, I mean, and this -- I feel that there is some sort of mental illness only because she didn`t dispose of the body.</s>PINSKY: Yes.</s>SCHACHER: There`s something odd there.</s>PINSKY: Exactly.</s>SCHACHER: I do think she is a fraudster. I do think she is a criminal, because she was married a couple of times prior to him.</s>PINSKY: OK.</s>SCHACHER: And it`s also not to stereotype, he seems significantly older.</s>PINSKY: Oh, yes, he was. Quite a bit. I mean she must have been -- that`s for me, that`s another piece of evidence that she was sort of planning this and maybe it was a guy with some resources but, Sam, tell me about those previous relationships.</s>SCHACHER: Yes, so she married this guy back in 2012 as Evy just alluded to. He was 88. She`s 54. She`s been married ...</s>PINSKY: Wait, wait, wait. Hold on a second. Let that sink in a second. He was 88.</s>SCHACHER: Yes.</s>PINSKY: So his maximum time on the planet would be probably certainly ten years at the most.</s>SCHACHER: At the most.</s>PINSKY: Of which at least six or seven of those years would be gravely impaired.</s>SCHACHER: Right.</s>PINSKY: She`s younger than most -- come on now. This is ridiculous.</s>SCHACHER: And this was her third marriage. She`s been married at least two times before. And also, what`s really interesting is she married her second husband just nine days after her divorce from the first one.</s>PINSKY: All right. So there`s a lot of - Evy, you are coming around to my way of thinking on this? With the decomposing body in a living room and the birds, maybe it`s just a variation on a theme.</s>POUMPOURAS: I do feel that there`s some type of mental illness coupled with being a con artist, being a fraudster. I just have worked so many of these. I have never seen anything like this one.</s>PINSKY: OK. I`m going to bring this panel back and also give you a reminder that you can find us any time on Instagram. The address is @Dr.DrewHLN. It`s an interesting Instagram. I suggest you follow it. And we`re getting near some milestones in terms of the number of followers. So, please join us there. Be right back after this.