DNA Evidence Mounts Against Accused Killer
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, stomach-churning insight into the life of an accused killer we`re now learning more about the 24-year-old lab tech accused of brutally murdering Annie Le. It seems Raymond Clark was living two lives. Some friends say he was friendly and nice, but others describe a darker side to this accused killer. Neighbors say he controlled his fiancee. And an ex-girlfriend reportedly claimed he once forced her to have sex with him against her will, although charges were never filed. Meanwhile, co-workers say Clark took his job very seriously. And sources reportedly say he complained that Le had left several lab cages dirty. Could this have led to Annie Le`s murder? Did custodial Clark see himself as lord of the lab? And turning the tables on a liar. The Hofstra co-ed who made up a story about being gang raped now finds herself under the hot lights of the media. She railroaded these young men with a fictitious tale of gang rape. Now it`s her turn to be scrutinized. So why were prosecutors trying to protect her identity, after plastering pictures and names of the accused rapists all over the media? Plus, brace yourself for the very first look inside Phillip Garrido`s house of horrors. More than 100 pictures were just released of this disgusting hell hole. It`s a firsthand look at what police say was Jaycee Dugard`s nightmare. The house is a complete dump: garbage everywhere. What insight does this give us into the sick mind of a rapist and accused kidnapper? ISSUES starts now.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, a slew of new developments in the investigation into the grisly, horrific murder of brilliant, beautiful bride-to-be Annie Le. Take a look at this. "The New York Daily News" reporting a trail of shocking physical evidence against Raymond Clark III, who was charged with punching and then strangling Annie Le. "The Daily News" reports state (ph) DNA tests prove -- this is from the "Daily News" -- Annie`s blood is on Clark`s boots, which bizarrely had his name on them. The paper also says Annie`s DNA and hair were found on Raymond`s body. The news adds Raymond Clark`s special green pen, which he used to distinguish himself from his co-workers, was also allegedly found in the lab basement after it fell into a crevice. You will not believe how he allegedly tried to retrieve the pen. "The Daily News" reports that Clark returned to work the next day with a backpack that contained wire, fishing hooks, and chewing gum to try to fish out the pen that got stuck in the crevice. Does this guy think he`s MacGyver? Meanwhile, WCIC in Hartford claims cops are interrogating a possible second lab worker, as a chilling portrait of Clark as a, quote, "control freak" at work is coming into sharp relief. As for Clark`s high school buddies, they`re not having any of it. They came to his defense last night on Larry King.</s>BOBBY HESLIN, CLARK`S HIGH SCHOOL BEST FRIEND: Raymond Clark is Ray Ray. I shouldn`t even refer to him as Raymond Clark, Ray Ray. He`s now the -- as of right now, the suspect in the Annie Le slaying at Yale.</s>MAURICE PERRY, KNOWN CLARK SINCE FIRST GRADE: This is not the Raymond Clark that I know. And honestly, at the time being, I can`t say that I believe he`s guilty.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ray Ray? Is that his nickname? And tonight`s big issue, a theory we proposed right here on ISSUES. Did Raymond Clark fancy himself lord of the lab? We`ll investigate what some say was his need to be in charge. I am taking your phone calls. But first, straight out to my fantastic expert panel: Drew Findling, Atlanta criminal defense attorney; Lisa Bloom, CNN legal analyst and Yale University law school graduate; Pat Brown, criminal profiler and CEO of the Pat Brown Criminal Profiling Agency; Dr. Dale Archer, clinical psychiatrist. Brian Santoro, who has known Raymond Clark since he was 12 joins me by phone. Brian, hang in there. I`m going to be right with you. But first, Randi Kaye, CNN correspondent on the ground in New Haven, Connecticut. Randi, you have some information about how they tracked Raymond Clark? Tell us about it.</s>RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I do, Jane. We got --- talked with a source today who has some very good knowledge of this investigation. It`s very close to it. And he told me that they have been tracking Raymond Clark since before Annie Le`s body was even found. He raised their suspicion when they saw him after viewing about 700 hours of videotape from the lab building security camera. They noticed him, I`m told, on that video walking out of the building after someone, possibly him I`m told, pulled the fire alarm the day of the murder. They saw him on that videotape, walking out of the building with his head in his hands, looking especially distraught. I can also tell you tonight that they -- the same source with knowledge of the investigation is also telling me that they did confirm that -- that the victim`s DNA was found on Raymond Clark`s body.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow. OK. The victim`s DNA. Now, I`ve got to get my head around that. Lisa Bloom, the victim`s DNA allegedly found on Raymond Clark`s body. But it was a while between when she disappeared and then was found, and when they finally picked him up. I remember asking the question when they cuffed him, well, wouldn`t he have had ample opportunity to wash his hands?</s>LISA BLOOM, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: He`s got a problem, Jane. According to one report that I`ve seen, he told police initially that he didn`t even see her on the day that she disappeared. So he`s stuck with that story. He can`t change it and say, "Oh, well, I can explain. My DNA was on her because we hugged. We said hello. I gave her a kiss on the cheek. In the course of my lab work I cut myself and I bled on her." All that is out, if indeed he made that statement he didn`t see her that day. So I think of all of this DNA evidence, if it`s true, it`s over for him. It doesn`t matter what the motive is. It`s over. There`s no good explanation for it.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ryan Santoro, you knew -- you know Raymond Clark. You hung out with him. Is this the Raymond Clark that you know?</s>RYAN SANTORO, FRIEND OF RAYMOND CLARK (via phone): I wouldn`t necessarily say that I hung out with him. I haven`t seen him for about six years. We played baseball from about 12 to 18 years old. We`re both the same age.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Then you hung out with him from 12 to 18 years old, with all due respect. If you played baseball with him. It`s a slow game. It lasts a long time. But go ahead.</s>SANTORO: It`s definitely not the Ray I know, or knew. Absolutely not. A lot of me and my teammates were definitely shocked over what`s going on.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I`m going to read some information here and then get your reaction to it. Clark allegedly sent Annie Le e-mails, criticizing her lax protocol when it came to handling the mice and other hygiene issues. Now we`re hearing chilling descriptions of his behavior with coworkers, and they could support our theory that Clark fancied himself lord of the lab. "The Daily News" says investigators speculate his concern wasn`t animal welfare. It was, quote, "his need to be in charge." They described him -- ABC News quotes a co-worker who called him a control freak, very officious and very demanding. So Ryan Santoro, you played ball with him. Does that match the person you knew?</s>SANTORO: Not really. He just played the game competitively and went out and played hard. I wouldn`t necessarily see him being as a control freak, or anything along those lines. But then again, you know, those are, like you said, they`re all theories. So when it comes down to it, I think the facts need to play themselves out. But in the long run, it`s definitely not the person I knew. And a lot -- a lot of people change from when they turn 18 to 24. So...</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, that`s for sure. Sometimes the ones who seem like the most clean-cut end up being the kids that you`ve got to watch out for. And sometimes the ones that look like they`re trouble end up being the pussycats. You know, you can never tell.</s>BLOOM: Jane -- Jane, one small point. A lot of guys who commit acts of violence against women are very friendly with their male friends. We`re not seeing any ex-girlfriends coming out of the woodwork saying what a great guy he is.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: No, as a matter of fact, Dr. Dale Archer, there`s an ex-girlfriend, who according to published reports that I cannot confirm, allegedly called cops when she tried to break up with him when they were back in high school. And according to that police report, she reportedly said that he forced her at one point to have sex against her will, although no charges were ever filed because she continued the relationship for a while.</s>DR. DALE ARCHER, CLINICAL PSYCHIATRIST: Yes, I think that you often see that with an abusive individual, that Lisa`s exactly right. They`re very, very friendly and seem totally normal to their male friends. But with their girlfriends, it`s when the controlling nature really comes to the front. But I really think that what we have here is not the fact that he was a lab control freak or that he was efficient or demanding. We all know efficient and demanding people that can be very good at their job. I still stand by the point that this was unrequited love. And...</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Me, too.</s>ARCHER: ... 90 percent of America has suffered unrequited love. We`ve actually done psychiatric studies on this, and we know how horrible it is.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, come on. I`ve suffered unrequited love. I didn`t bludgeon somebody.</s>ARCHER: No, Jane...</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: I suffered it several times. I just made a fool of myself. That`s all I did.</s>ARCHER: Well, most of us go through it. And then we`re sadder or wiser and say, "You know what? Just because I love somebody, doesn`t mean they`re going to love me." But for somebody who is right on the edge, this stress can be enough to tip them over.</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to look at my panel for a second. Let`s look at the whole panel. Has anybody here not suffered unrequited love, raise your hand. OK. So everybody has suffered it. All right. So that -- I mean, I understand what you`re saying, but that`s no excuse.</s>ARCHER: That`s very important, though, it`s not an excuse. But for somebody who is already right to that edge, this stress can be enough to tip them over the edge. I think that he went down in that lab not to murder her, but to profess his love to her, with hope against hope that she was going to reciprocate to him. And when she did not, he absolutely snapped. This was a passionate and brutal and emotional murder. There were fabrics of the cloth found deep inside her neck. It takes five minutes to strangle somebody. So this was very emotional in nature. And love is the strongest human emotion. And when it`s not returned in a person that`s already on the edge, this can be the result.</s>DREW FINDLING, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: You know, Jane, I think we`re -- I think...</s>VELEZ-MITCHELL: In one second. We`re going to take a break. Randi Kaye, CNN correspondent, thank you so much for updating us on this story. All right. More on the brutal murder of Annie Le in just a moment. We`re also taking your calls on this: 1-877-JVM-SAYS, 1-877-586-7297. Five young men nearly had their lives ruined by a college co-ed who lied about being raped by them. So why are prosecutors trying to protect this girl`s identity? But first, inside the mind of an accused killer. Was Raymond Clark living separate lives? Some people describe the dark side of this accused killer. But friends see a totally different side.</s>PERRY: The time being, I can`t say that I believe he`s guilty.