{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/NottingHack/rules/issues/16","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/NottingHack/rules/issues/16/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/NottingHack/rules/issues/16/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/NottingHack/rules/issues/16/events","html_url":"https://github.com/NottingHack/rules/pull/16","id":123795927,"number":16,"title":"Delete entire rule \"Abiding by UK Law\"","user":{"login":"drazziweht","id":4129375,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/4129375?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht","html_url":"https://github.com/drazziweht","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/drazziweht/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":9,"created_at":"2015-12-24T11:56:05Z","updated_at":"2015-12-24T13:16:58Z","closed_at":null,"pull_request":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/NottingHack/rules/pulls/16","html_url":"https://github.com/NottingHack/rules/pull/16","diff_url":"https://github.com/NottingHack/rules/pull/16.diff","patch_url":"https://github.com/NottingHack/rules/pull/16.patch"},"body":"A rule that states \"You must abide by UK law in the space\" is a void rule as it does not in any way change any activity in the space that is within the law or allowed by the rules.\r\n\r\nAll UK Laws are active within the space with or without such a rule and hence the rule is of no effect and is therefore pointless.\r\n\r\nWhy would we have an additional pointless rule ?\r\n\r\nAt best this \"rule\" would be a note in the safe spaces or other hackspace policy document clarifying that the hackspace does not have some mystical exemption from UK law within it's walls."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/NottingHack/rules/issues/comments/167108205","html_url":"https://github.com/NottingHack/rules/pull/16#issuecomment-167108205","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/NottingHack/rules/issues/16","id":167108205,"user":{"login":"geeksareforlife","id":1926944,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1926944?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife","html_url":"https://github.com/geeksareforlife","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/geeksareforlife/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-12-24T13:16:58Z","updated_at":"2015-12-24T13:16:58Z","body":"I'd also like to point out that in my time as a trustee I have had the\nfollowing conversation with three separate members:\n\nMe: please don't do X in the space, it is illegal\nThem: there is nothing in the rules about it!\nMe: *facepalm*\nOn 24 Dec 2015 1:11 p.m., \"James Hayward\" <jhayward1980@gmail.com> wrote:\n\n> Actually it is the case. The grievance procedure says it is for\n>\n> \"behaviour which has caused offence, harm or distress to another member or\n> members; or has threatened the safety of the Hackspace.\"\n>\n> It would be a gross misuse of this currently to try and apply this to\n> activities that whilst illegal are not actively hurting others.\n>\n> J\n> On 24 Dec 2015 12:59 p.m., \"drazziweht\" <notifications@github.com> wrote:\n>\n>> \"Illegal activities (yes, plural) already happen in the space and at the\n>> moment the only recourse the trustees have is to call the police in the\n>> case of criminal breaches, or raise a civil suit for other cases.\"\n>>\n>> This is NOT the case.\n>> The trustees currently have the power under the Grievance procedure\n>> https://wiki.nottinghack.org.uk/wiki/Grievance_Procedure to take action\n>> up to an access ban.\n>>\n>> Breaking the law in the space would seem to be covered by this policy and\n>> give the trustees the required powers of enforcement without additional\n>> rules.\n>>\n>> —\n>> Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n>> <https://github.com/NottingHack/rules/pull/16#issuecomment-167106895>.\n>>\n>\n"}}