{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/hotosm/learnosm/issues/322","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/hotosm/learnosm/issues/322/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/hotosm/learnosm/issues/322/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/hotosm/learnosm/issues/322/events","html_url":"https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/322","id":56985726,"number":322,"title":"LearnOSM's goals","user":{"login":"lxbarth","id":98233,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/98233?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth","html_url":"https://github.com/lxbarth","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/lxbarth/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/hotosm/learnosm/labels/question","name":"question","color":"cc317c"},{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/hotosm/learnosm/labels/research","name":"research","color":"fbca04"}],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":1,"created_at":"2015-02-09T03:44:00Z","updated_at":"2015-02-15T01:49:19Z","closed_at":null,"body":"LearnOSM is growing! This is great, but it also makes me ask: what are the goals for LearnOSM? What's the audience? What is appropriate content and *what isn't*? To do good and *maintainable* learning materials they're ideally compact and modular.\r\n\r\n![screen shot 2015-02-08 at 10 29 58 pm](https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/98233/6100685/11e26ef2-afe2-11e4-9b47-73f821720c89.png)\r\n"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/hotosm/learnosm/issues/comments/74400343","html_url":"https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/322#issuecomment-74400343","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/hotosm/learnosm/issues/322","id":74400343,"user":{"login":"Nick-Tallguy","id":6763965,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6763965?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy","html_url":"https://github.com/Nick-Tallguy","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Nick-Tallguy/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-02-15T01:49:19Z","updated_at":"2015-02-15T01:49:19Z","body":"@lxbarth @althio @bgirardot \r\n\r\nHi, I have yet to discuss any of my ideas with the rest of the team - perhaps Monday's meeting would be good, but my thoughts have been tending towards (this is not a timeline as some of these items need to be taking place in parallel):  \r\n* HOT's website at http://hot.openstreetmap.org/get-involved states *'Our website learnosm.org will get you mapping quickly and painlessly. Maybe there is a local OpenStreetMap meet-up around. Going to those events is a great way to learn more about the OpenStreetMap project in general.'*  \r\n* The wiki at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page is very comprehensive - to the extent that it is difficult to get actually mapping because there is so much information it is difficult to find what you need.  \r\n* http://teachosm.org/en/ is aimed at the professional organiser who wishes to organise a curriculum with assessed learning.  \r\n*  LearnOSM neatly fits into the gap - the TaskManager defines what specifically has to be done, and LearnOSM can show you how to do it. As the site uses markdown it is relatively easy to produce printed guides suitable for use when internet access is limited (this can happen anywhere in the world during a mapathon!\r\n\r\nI believe that currently there are four user cases who look to LearnOSM for guidance, and that the site caters for these, but only if you know the information is actually in LearnOSM and you can find it:  \r\n\r\n1.  Beginner - well catered for - it's you're landing point if you search in your web browser for 'learnosm' - what is OSM, how to get involved & how to use the mapping tools. A very good guide, especially good for the fieldwork side of HOT.  \r\n\r\n2.  Mobile tools and how to use them - 'field papers', gps, OSMTracker, OSMand, etc.  Not sure how up to date some of these sections are - a review is on my rather long ToDo list.  I guess that our hit rate on this section relates to the Missing Maps projects & the data collection taking place there. Certainly I intend to make these guides available as a downloadable .pdf asap so the users can download them when they have internet access and share them more easily.\r\n\r\n3. OSM-data - qgis etc. I imagine this is the aid organisations making best use of the data which has been provided. \r\n\r\n4. Remote mappers looking for info on how to interpret, trace & tag the features they are seeing when working with the Tasking Manager.\r\n\r\nUser cases 2, 3 & 4 actually need to know specifically that what they want to find is within the site, or they will not find it - for instance, use the search engine & search on 'building' and you will not find anything, but there is a fairly detailed section on this within http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/\r\n\r\nI believe we need to consider a few options, but come up with a system whereby the excellent material within the site is 'advertised' better. Perhaps a 'full site index' with the 4 sections above each having a section list of chapters - needs more thought!\r\n\r\nThere is an overlap, but I come from a background of learning how to map & I've learnt a small amount about updating the website. Others have come from a more technical background and are trying to make it easier for us to have the website we would like. I do know that organising chapters by a method involving the file name having a date makes it difficult if you want to reorganize something (I also know that when you search github for information on how to set up a site, it seems to be the way they recommend!). If we re-organise the site into a filing system more acceptable to the 'technical volunteers', but also easier for the 'mapper who wishes to help' would we have more people willing to help keep the site up to date, and perhaps perform in the future with 'whistles & bells' whilst still allowing the simple production of printed guides - I think both can be done. Whatever we do I think needs better documentation so that any new volunteers don't have to spend long periods of time working out how to help.\r\n\r\nI think we need to reorganize the site as per #306 but I also think we need :  \r\n\r\n* remote section - buildings - transferring tags from a node to a polygon,  schools & any other special cases,\r\n* remote section - aligning the imagery,  \r\n* remote section - waterways (leads into)\r\n* remote section - relations - islands, courtyards, admin boundaries \r\n* once we have info on 'how to map', then a section on how to help other mappers to develop - 'validating'  (there is already some information on this, and the wiki article).\r\n* more detailed instructions for new & potential TM project managers\r\n\r\nShould there be more links from the Tasking Manager to LearnOSM - it would be very easy to provide a template for TM project managers so they can copy and paste, something like,  \r\n [trace all buildings - click here if you are not sure how](http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#buildings-compounds-amp-barriers).  Producing such a template is relatively easy, but I don't wish to do so until we have decided on the file structure, and we also have all of the information in place.\r\n\r\nTranslations - this should be a continuous process paired with managing the minor amendments & updates, but we need to document the how a little better. Personally I think that a translation provided by a mapper will be better every time as they will keep it in context.  But if we could increase our team without detracting from the urgent mapping tasks (enhance the number of mappers by giving instructions in all languages), we could really make progress on the translation front.\r\n\r\nhmmm...   went on a bit didn't it - sorry. But I think we did have over 2800 visits to the site in the last couple of weeks, so it's got to be worth keeping it contemporary, simple and informative."}}