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with 3 terms the model comparison is hard to read, with four or more it's impossible (and the user has to scroll 5 pages down to the /analysis of effects/ table which is still readable.\r\n - /analysis of effects/ is more analogous to a classical ANOVA.\r\n\r\nthis may not be a great forum to discuss, but we've been murmuring about it for a while, and so i thought we should get the ball rolling."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/jasp-stats/jasp-desktop/issues/comments/105500177","html_url":"https://github.com/jasp-stats/jasp-desktop/issues/614#issuecomment-105500177","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/jasp-stats/jasp-desktop/issues/614","id":105500177,"user":{"login":"EJWagenmakers","id":8603015,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/8603015?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers","html_url":"https://github.com/EJWagenmakers","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/EJWagenmakers/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-05-26T12:02:36Z","updated_at":"2015-05-26T12:02:36Z","body":"Trust me on this one.\nE.J.\n\n********************************************\nEric-Jan Wagenmakers\nDepartment of Psychological Methods, room 2.09\nUniversity of Amsterdam\nWeesperplein 4\n1018 XA Amsterdam\nThe Netherlands\n\nWeb: ejwagenmakers.com\nBook: bayesmodels.com\nStats: jasp-stats.org\nEmail: EJ.Wagenmakers@gmail.com\nPhone: (+31) 20 525 6420\n\n“Man follows only phantoms.”\nPierre-Simon Laplace, last words\n********************************************\n\nOn Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Eric-Jan Wagenmakers <\nej.wagenmakers@gmail.com> wrote:\n\n> Yeah let's stick to what we had in the previous release and make decisions\n> later.\n> E.J.\n>\n> ********************************************\n> Eric-Jan Wagenmakers\n> Department of Psychological Methods, room 2.09\n> University of Amsterdam\n> Weesperplein 4\n> 1018 XA Amsterdam\n> The Netherlands\n>\n> Web: ejwagenmakers.com\n> Book: bayesmodels.com\n> Stats: jasp-stats.org\n> Email: EJ.Wagenmakers@gmail.com\n> Phone: (+31) 20 525 6420\n>\n> “Man follows only phantoms.”\n> Pierre-Simon Laplace, last words\n> ********************************************\n>\n> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Jonathon Love <notifications@github.com>\n> wrote:\n>\n>> yeah, at this point i feel like we're more discussing issue #633\n>> <https://github.com/jasp-stats/jasp-desktop/issues/633> more than this\n>> one, but:\n>>\n>> We need more experience before making decisions.\n>>\n>> yeah, that's my motivation. i'd like to bring things back to something\n>> closer to a blank slate, which then we can add values to as we find them to\n>> be useful.\n>>\n>> it's not so much that i want to make decisions, but i want to undo\n>> [potentially unprincipled] decisions from the past - and then make good\n>> decisions about what to add.\n>>\n>> i keep bringing this up, because this becomes more acute as publications\n>> draw near. we risk either having to change things down the track,\n>> undermining our pubs, or being compelled to keep unnecessary values which\n>> clutter the UI (like SPSS' results), so as to remain consistent with our\n>> pubs.\n>>\n>> we can always add things, but taking away is always problematic.\n>>\n>> The question about the main effect of disgust is answered by the BF10\n>> column only indirectly\n>>\n>> yeah i agree, but the other values are even less direct (as far as i can\n>> tell).\n>>\n>> —\n>> Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub\n>> <https://github.com/jasp-stats/jasp-desktop/issues/614#issuecomment-105498693>\n>> .\n>>\n>\n>\n"}}