{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17/events","html_url":"https://github.com/openvocab/ovn/issues/17","id":68983974,"number":17,"title":"Model issue: currency unit vs currency resource type","user":{"login":"bhaugen","id":117439,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/117439?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen","html_url":"https://github.com/bhaugen","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":10,"created_at":"2015-04-16T18:34:49Z","updated_at":"2015-08-21T13:23:42Z","closed_at":null,"body":"This is a duplicate of [this valnet issue](https://github.com/valnet/valuenetwork/issues/367), which I will copy and paste here to get a different set of comments. Although you can comment on valnet, too, if you like.\r\n\r\n> We got currency Units and currency Resource Types whose unit is the currency unit.\r\n\r\n> For example, in Sensorica, we got Canadian Dollars whose unit is the currency Canadian Dollars.\r\n\r\n> Something is probably wrong with this picture, but I don't know exactly what it is or how to fix it.\r\n\r\n> We also have Virtual Account Resources, Economic Events, prices, and other things measured in CAD, so the CAD currency Unit seems to be necessary, and is not always a duplication.\r\n\r\n> And then we got Payments and other Economic Events whose Resource Type is CAD the Resource Type and whose unit is CAD the currency Unit. So in that case, it is a duplication.\r\n\r\n> We may need to consult a philosopher...\r\n\r\nI can hear @elf-pavlik laughing at this all the way from Europe...but many of us still need to be able to deal with money, unfortunately."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/comments/133424453","html_url":"https://github.com/openvocab/ovn/issues/17#issuecomment-133424453","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17","id":133424453,"user":{"login":"fosterlynn","id":3776081,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3776081?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn","html_url":"https://github.com/fosterlynn","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fosterlynn/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-08-21T13:23:42Z","updated_at":"2015-08-21T13:23:42Z","body":"@elf-pavlik  wrote:\r\n> When it comes to Plan and Reality currencies will star appear - \"to convince someone to offer help with goods or services, we may need to use those currencies (for influencing another human / affecting this person's DECISION MAKING PROCESS\"\r\n\r\nFurther clarification and to simplify: The recipe layer you are looking at in the process flow picture won't have currencies on any level.  The recipe layer just says how something is created without any reference to how it is exchanged, there is no marketplace involved.  It is there so you don't have to recreate all of that definition when you make something. You can create the plan directly from the recipe, again just how we will make some of these, no exchanges.  Then we make them, using the plan to coordinate the processes.\r\n\r\n( @bhaugen is talking about further extensions to recipes, but as pictured above and implemented now, this is just about creation.  And I don't think the extensions we've run into thus far will involve much incentivization, more like group decisions about how the network operates, the planned flow of resources within the network, which can involve exchanges between members in certain roles.  Note this herbal group is trying this new this year; last year they distributed income back to harvesters, dryers, etc. based on percentage of what selling the herbs brought in.  Sensorica has introduced internal exchanges also, like everyone who uses the new 3D printer puts 1.50/hour into the maintenance fund, and if they use printer filament that someone else purchased, they reimburse that person right away.  There's a lot of experimentation to be done in this area; we want to get to a flexible recipe that supports any definition of processes and exchanges intermixed.  And any exchange can involve a currency, or not, a decision of the network.  Usually right now it does.  But it is still more about resource flow within the network.)"}}