{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17/events","html_url":"https://github.com/openvocab/ovn/issues/17","id":68983974,"number":17,"title":"Model issue: currency unit vs currency resource type","user":{"login":"bhaugen","id":117439,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/117439?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen","html_url":"https://github.com/bhaugen","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/bhaugen/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":7,"created_at":"2015-04-16T18:34:49Z","updated_at":"2015-08-21T07:35:05Z","closed_at":null,"body":"This is a duplicate of [this valnet issue](https://github.com/valnet/valuenetwork/issues/367), which I will copy and paste here to get a different set of comments. Although you can comment on valnet, too, if you like.\r\n\r\n> We got currency Units and currency Resource Types whose unit is the currency unit.\r\n\r\n> For example, in Sensorica, we got Canadian Dollars whose unit is the currency Canadian Dollars.\r\n\r\n> Something is probably wrong with this picture, but I don't know exactly what it is or how to fix it.\r\n\r\n> We also have Virtual Account Resources, Economic Events, prices, and other things measured in CAD, so the CAD currency Unit seems to be necessary, and is not always a duplication.\r\n\r\n> And then we got Payments and other Economic Events whose Resource Type is CAD the Resource Type and whose unit is CAD the currency Unit. So in that case, it is a duplication.\r\n\r\n> We may need to consult a philosopher...\r\n\r\nI can hear @elf-pavlik laughing at this all the way from Europe...but many of us still need to be able to deal with money, unfortunately."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/comments/133315875","html_url":"https://github.com/openvocab/ovn/issues/17#issuecomment-133315875","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/openvocab/ovn/issues/17","id":133315875,"user":{"login":"elf-pavlik","id":876431,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/876431?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik","html_url":"https://github.com/elf-pavlik","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/elf-pavlik/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-08-21T07:35:05Z","updated_at":"2015-08-21T07:35:05Z","body":"Looking at *Recipe*, *Plan*, *Reality*\r\n![diagram](https://camo.githubusercontent.com/4e022abb6358edae8b381fedf1899d23b8eaac2e/68747470733a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f373467495935432e706e67)\r\n\r\nTo my understanding a *Recipe* should not include any **currency** and only describe inputs based on physical reality - goods and services (materials, tools, skilled human work etc.). When it comes to *Plan* and *Reality* currencies will star appear - \"to **convince** someone to offer help with goods or services, we may need to use those currencies (for influencing another human / affecting this person's DECISION MAKING PROCESS\".\r\n\r\nSo as long as *Recipe* doesn't involve currency and stays focused on describing requirements based on constrains grounded in physical reality, I see no problem. On the other hand, for planing currencies should appear with clear notion of multiple possible choices - \"To get this resource we can use one of many from currencies which all involved parties agree to use eg. LETS, Timebanking, Chained Barter etc. - [subject for negotiaion]\". When it gets to tracking past events (logging), I see use for records like \"Out of those possible currencies supported by all parties, we used [details based on actual happening]\"\r\n\r\n@zippy @artbrock - curious about what you think..."}}