{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/progit/progit2-zh/issues/172","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/progit/progit2-zh/issues/172/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/progit/progit2-zh/issues/172/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/progit/progit2-zh/issues/172/events","html_url":"https://github.com/progit/progit2-zh/issues/172","id":92869872,"number":172,"title":"一些中文与英文的语序不同的要怎么处理？","user":{"login":"Geno1024","id":6427392,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6427392?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024","html_url":"https://github.com/Geno1024","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/Geno1024/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":1,"created_at":"2015-07-03T12:55:43Z","updated_at":"2015-07-03T14:16:33Z","closed_at":null,"body":"刚刚看了一下 `06-github` 的 `4-managing-organization` ，其中第 6 行：\r\n` 类似于个人帐户，组织帐户提供一个命名空间用于存放所拥有的项目，但是也有很多不同的地方。 `\r\n对应的原文是：\r\n` Like personal accounts, Organizational accounts have a namespace where all their projects exist, but many other things are different. `\r\n可以看到这个中文翻译使用了原文的英文语序。\r\n我不知道这样是否可以，就是我们在翻译的时候，使用中文的语序。\r\n但是对于例如 where 引导的从句来说，在翻译时将它们放在从句主语之前，这样有时候会使句式变得看起来复杂或者甚至难以理解。\r\n我负责的翻译部分是 `B-Embedding-git` 整章，遇到这种比较复杂的句式（例如：主语 + 谓语 + 宾语，从句宾语 + 从句谓语 + 从句主语 + 从句宾语补足语），我习惯于把它们调换成中文语序，但是这种调换很复杂，很奇怪，还容易出错，即使不出错，出来的句子也是奇奇怪怪的。\r\n所以，大家觉得，要用哪个？或者介于两者之间？"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/progit/progit2-zh/issues/comments/118361716","html_url":"https://github.com/progit/progit2-zh/issues/172#issuecomment-118361716","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/progit/progit2-zh/issues/172","id":118361716,"user":{"login":"robinwen","id":6106393,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/6106393?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen","html_url":"https://github.com/robinwen","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/robinwen/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-07-03T14:16:33Z","updated_at":"2015-07-03T14:16:33Z","body":"我自己在做一些翻译的时候也会碰到复杂的英语句子的问题，如果硬按照英语来翻译的话，我觉得非常难受，所以在这种情况下我会转向优先采用意译，在中文可以表达清楚的前提下再尽量和原句的语序相近。\r\n\r\n具体的做法是：\r\n1. 改写英语原句，把复杂的长句用标准的主+谓+宾的简单句写出来。这个步骤的一个额外好处就是可以帮助你确认自己是否真正理解了英语原句。\r\n2. 翻译每一个简单句。\r\n3. 综合各个翻译过来的中文简单句，使用一个或多个稍微复杂的中文句子表达原意。也就是说，一个英语原句，此时我可能会采用多个中文译句来表达。\r\n4. 再综合英文原句，适当做调整。\r\n\r\n供参考。翻译的三个标准：“信”、“达”、“雅”中的“达”其实就有“不拘泥原文形式”的含义，即译文要通顺明白。当然，前提是“信”：不歪曲原文。"}}