{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/issues/1368","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/issues/1368/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/issues/1368/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/issues/1368/events","html_url":"https://github.com/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/issues/1368","id":60977755,"number":1368,"title":"Hang when Scenery not yet loaded","user":{"login":"pedromorgan","id":123932,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/123932?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan","html_url":"https://github.com/pedromorgan","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/labels/imported","name":"imported","color":"FFFFFF"}],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":5,"created_at":"2015-03-13T04:02:43Z","updated_at":"2015-03-13T04:03:06Z","closed_at":null,"body":"_From [j-emmer...@online.de](https://code.google.com/u/108759281442382712608/) on February 11, 2014 10:38:35_\n\n*What steps will reproduce the problem?* 1.delete e000n50 in all active scenery-Dir's\r\n2.start with --disable-terrasync at EDDF (rw 18) *What is the expected output? What do you see instead?* Prior 3.0.0 did then start on open water\r\nnow it hangs (I broke off after 10 min) see fgfs-disableTS.log\r\n(just for comparison I also attached the fgfs-enableTS.log) *Any output in the console (black window)?* see attached Terminal-trace.png *What FlightGear version are you using (when using GIT version, please mention date)?* see attached FGversion.png\r\n(have gotten new Update from Ubuntu today) *What operating system and graphics card?* Ubuntu 13.10 (saucy)\r\nAMD Athlon(tm) II X3 450 Processor\r\nNVIDIA GEforce GT 640 *Please provide any additional information below or as attachment (Avoid expiring external links, such as to imageshack/pastebin/...).* Not all users (with small systems) do like to have TerraSync enabled all the time due to FPM problems. So that HANG may occur relatively often!\r\n- Especially bad: there is just no indication of error/error-type to the user!\r\n\r\nI suggest to do as in 3.0.0 and start in open water (or even better: Present a input panel with e.g.: \"No scenery found! Shall I start TerraSync? y/n\"\r\n\r\nWhile you are at it: The display-line \"Downloading Scenery\" during normal start is fine. But I would replace the added \"Download-speed-indicator\" with a \"Download MB counting\" -- because that is more important for the user: Many pay on the amount of data transferred! Of course showing both indicators would be very very nice!\n\n**Attachment:** [fgfs-disableTS.log fgfs-enableTS.log Terminal-trace.png FGversion.png](http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=1369)\n\n_Original issue: http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=1369_"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/issues/comments/78786338","html_url":"https://github.com/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/issues/1368#issuecomment-78786338","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/pedromorgan/flightgear-issues-test/issues/1368","id":78786338,"user":{"login":"pedromorgan","id":123932,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/123932?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan","html_url":"https://github.com/pedromorgan","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/pedromorgan/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-03-13T04:03:06Z","updated_at":"2015-03-13T04:03:06Z","body":"_From [clement....@gmail.com](https://code.google.com/u/100620099389613266594/) on February 12, 2014 15:38:15_\n\nThis diff solve the problem of hang: http://pastebin.com/y6wVRRmc Normal case (no dir deleted) is still working with this diff. James I leave you decide if it's a good candidate for fixing this bug.\r\n\r\nWell with this diff FG does not hang BUT you start at alt=0, it means that at EDDF you are below the ground and you need to press Ctrl+u ~5/6 time in order to put your plane above the ocean tile. And best of the best: your plane is crashed (c172p)\r\n\r\nTo conclude I'm not sure what is the best:\r\n- Give an unusable session to our users ?\r\nor\r\n- Tell to our users \"Hey, why do you delete a directory without knowing what you are doing !? because of your unconsciousness you have broken your simulator :(\""}}