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Another party (a seller) may offer those services or goods on behalf of the provider. A provider may also serve as the seller.\"\r\n* http://schema.org/seller \"An entity which offers (sells / leases / lends / loans) the services / goods. A seller may also be a provider.\"\r\n* seller is currently marked as a subproperty of participant (an Action-oriented property)\r\n* http://schema.org/participant \"Other co-agents that participated in the action indirectly. e.g. John wrote a book with *Steve*.\"\r\n\r\nMy motivation here is that I still cringe every time I see 'seller' in non-commercial Offer descriptions, notably library holdings data (#733). Using 'provider' would seem more natural. I'd suggest revising 'seller' description to note that non-commercial offers can be described via 'provider'.\r\n\r\nSee also #424 #620\r\n\r\n/cc @RichardWallis @dbs @vholland @chaals @rvguha @pmika  @mfhepp @shankarnat "},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/comments/140568112","html_url":"https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/764#issuecomment-140568112","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/764","id":140568112,"user":{"login":"dbs","id":317113,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/317113?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs","html_url":"https://github.com/dbs","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/dbs/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-09-15T22:37:58Z","updated_at":"2015-09-15T22:37:58Z","body":"@mfhepp Nice, I like that better. And of course we could also do (and I suspect we would primarily use):\r\n\r\n    Product\r\n        -> offers\r\n           -> Offer\r\n                -> @rev makesOffer\r\n                    -> Organization or Person\r\n\r\n-- that would enable us to just swap `@rev makesOffer` in for `seller` into our existing templates, which would be nice from a lack-of-effort-required solution :)"}}