{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/11583","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/11583/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/11583/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/11583/events","html_url":"https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/11583","id":61693635,"number":11583,"title":"game idea: a real world survival tactic allows one to get potable water from dew","user":{"login":"graysage1","id":9023835,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/9023835?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1","html_url":"https://github.com/graysage1","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/labels/Suggestion%20(Discuss)","name":"Suggestion (Discuss)","color":"FF3399"}],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":6,"created_at":"2015-03-14T20:47:16Z","updated_at":"2015-03-15T21:57:52Z","closed_at":null,"body":"[Source](http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/water/men72/index.html):\r\n\r\n>Collecting dew is probably the *simplest, and safest*, way to obtain potable water in a survival situation, and it's the method I most frequently use and recommend to my students.\r\n>\r\n>The only equipment needed to gather dew is a rag or piece of clothing ... or a handful of dried, nontoxic, grasses. Just wipe the moisture from the landscape and wring the liquid into a container or your mouth. Collect the condensed droplets from grass, rocks, leaves, and even sand. (Do not, of course, gather moisture from poisonous plants, near a highway or a city, or in area that's been sprayed with chemicals.)\r\n>\r\n>You'll have to get up early and work hard (dew doesn't stay around very long!), but don't let the simplicity of this method lead you to believe that it's ineffective. Students of mine have collected more than a quart a day in some of the hottest Southwest deserts ... and at my farm in New Jersey, two pupils once used this technique to fill a 20-gallon garbage can with water in less than two hours!\r\n\r\nSo all one needs is a cotton something or other, a cotton towel would probably be ideal.  One needs to wait till morning.  Brush the cotton item along the grass or sand.  The cotton item gets wet.  Wring the cotton item into a water container.\r\n\r\nI'd prefer something like this over having to drink from toilets.  Every toilet invariably containing 24 units of water is not 100% realistic, imo.  However the water situation doesn't have to be a nightmare if CDDA were to implement this survival tactic.\r\n\r\nWhat's more, it appears that all water thus collected is potable and doesn't need further purification.  The only downside is that one has to wait for a 2 hour window in the morning.\r\n\r\nAnd if it's raining, or been raining recently, it should be trivial to collect rain water off the grass and other natural surfaces in the same way as collecting dew in the morning.  In fact the game already produces a wet towel if it's 'a'pplied to wipe off the rain wetness.  It would only be a small step to implement wringing it into a water container instead of allowing it to dry.\r\n\r\n\"Simplest, safest\" implies it should be an entry level survival skill too.\r\n\r\nIt's just an idea.  What do people think of this?\r\n\r\n<bountysource-plugin>\r\n---\r\nWant to back this issue? **[Post a bounty on it!](https://www.bountysource.com/issues/9566068-game-idea-a-real-world-survival-tactic-allows-one-to-get-potable-water-from-dew?utm_campaign=plugin&utm_content=tracker%2F146201&utm_medium=issues&utm_source=github)** We accept bounties via [Bountysource](https://www.bountysource.com/?utm_campaign=plugin&utm_content=tracker%2F146201&utm_medium=issues&utm_source=github).\r\n</bountysource-plugin>"},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/comments/81257470","html_url":"https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/11583#issuecomment-81257470","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/11583","id":81257470,"user":{"login":"graysage1","id":9023835,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/9023835?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1","html_url":"https://github.com/graysage1","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/graysage1/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-03-15T21:57:52Z","updated_at":"2015-03-15T21:57:52Z","body":"Another potential way to balance this method: maybe the act of wringing the water is relatively strenuous, and so this possibly makes one more tired (sleepy) and slightly more hungry.  This penalty could be adjusted based on strength.\r\n\r\nAnother idea: if it's raining, it should be possible to spread a cotton sheet or a towel on the ground and just allowing it to get wet in the rain.  This should not impose any undue wear and tear compared to dragging cotton items along the various surfaces, but will only work in the rain.\r\n\r\nAnother idea is to use a cotton sheet similar to a water funnel like so: bury/plant one tall stick into the ground, and two shorter ones and tie the three corners of a sheet to each stick such that the sheet is sloped at a 45 degree angle toward the ground, and the last corner of the sheet is hanging loose.  This loose corner can then be inserted into a water container.  Then when it rains, this setup will gather water and move it via capillary action into the water container.\r\n\r\nAnother thing that should be possible is to simply collect the water that rolls off the roofs.  I'm assuming every building was at least originally built with a roof and functioning rain gutters.  Maybe the rain gutters have to be cleaned out before this can work, but the roof of a building together with a system of rain gutters is much more efficient than any water funnel I can imagine.  What could stop this from working is if the roof was damaged, or the rain gutters were broken.  One could still leverage the roof by putting a sloping sheet setup described above under the roof as opposed to away from the shelter.  When done that way, it should work faster even if the water gutter is damaged and if the water is not all going into a single water drain pipe.  This might be too much detail to simulate in the game.  But the point is, roofs of buildings normally would be the best way to collect rain water, imo.  The only reason survivalist don't talk about it is because it's assumed they're doing wilderness survival where you don't have roofs.  But in an urban survival situation roofs are everywhere and it would be silly not to leverage them for water."}}