{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/MrKepzie/Natron/issues/396","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/MrKepzie/Natron/issues/396/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/MrKepzie/Natron/issues/396/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/MrKepzie/Natron/issues/396/events","html_url":"https://github.com/MrKepzie/Natron/issues/396","id":54038924,"number":396,"title":"Some roto advices","user":{"login":"fPaglia","id":5074015,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/5074015?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia","html_url":"https://github.com/fPaglia","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/fPaglia/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/MrKepzie/Natron/labels/enhancement","name":"enhancement","color":"84b6eb"}],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":16,"created_at":"2015-01-12T10:33:46Z","updated_at":"2015-06-21T22:34:03Z","closed_at":null,"body":"In the latest weeks I had the chance to use Natron to work on this video:\r\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KOgRgqjq-0\r\n\r\nI mainly used natron for the compositing of the CG over live video starting from min 1' to the end.\r\nI extensively cleaned up the red roof and had to remove a drone from many aereal shot.\r\n\r\nI had the chance to extensively use the roto tool and have to say it was quite painful to the shapes.\r\nRoto got lot of improvement since its beginning but there are still lot of chances to improve the usability in the animation side.\r\n\r\nMaybe it  is only me who find the following behavior not so \"friendly\" so would be very useful to discuss with other user their feeling about what I'm going to say:\r\n\r\n1.  __point selection:__  there is no way to distinguish point selected of a shape from unselected (all are fully yellow) if we could see a difference in selection we would easily change the selection itself if needed \r\n2. __priority of the modification:__ once a selection of some point is made it's really hard to edit that selection (especially if the bounding box is small) instead I always end up to move the entire shape causing an unwanted change on the entire shape - this is very frustrating to me...\r\n3. __presence of the bounding box:__ in many cases where there are lot of points in a small area the bounding box is seriously annoying and disturbing the correct placing of the shape, can we simply hide it in some way?\r\n4. __impossibility of edit two aligned point:__ have you tried to select 2 points vertically or horizontally aligned then tried to move them? I'm still not able to do it and have to select one point at time to perform such a simple action, also if I try to move a point in the selection it moves just that point (that still sounds strange to me)  \r\n5. __no chance to change the center of the bounding box:__ if you want to perform a simple rotation form a center that is different from the \"original\" center of the bounding box you can't this would be a real major plus\r\n6. __the RGB value information are lost__:if you duplicate a roto node, try this: \r\na. set the roto node to rgba\r\nb. create a couple of shape \r\nc. set the color of each shape to a value different from 1,1,1,1\r\nd. duplicate the node \r\ne. the newly created node has fully white shapes\r\n7. __hitting Z__ to create from a linear shape a bezier always __ends in to big handles__ that have to be rearranged manually instead of having a nice smoth shape (that would be much more apreciated)\r\n8. __negative feather__ return some sharp crop not really following the real shapes \r\n9. __keyframe display is very difficult__ if we could see only the keyframe of the selected shape in the timeline would be more than awesome! Actually the only way to understand which key is related to which shape is to use the keyframe editor in the properties panel.\r\n10. __the left button requires a double click to perform an action:__ wouldn't be much more easy to have a simple click select the button and hold click open the panel with all the option? \r\n11. __more flxibility in feature interchange__: it would speed up the pipeline if we can easily move through the edit possibilities like: \r\na. create a shape\r\nb. set the cursor in add mode\r\nc. add a point\r\nd. without change the cursor move the point just create somewhere else\r\n12. If natron crashes from time to time it loses the tracking of some point/shape (that have been already saved before)  \r\n\r\nThat's all for now, hope to hear as much feedback as possible :)\r\nLater!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n  \r\n   "},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/MrKepzie/Natron/issues/comments/113965147","html_url":"https://github.com/MrKepzie/Natron/issues/396#issuecomment-113965147","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/MrKepzie/Natron/issues/396","id":113965147,"user":{"login":"devernay","id":3778071,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/3778071?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay","html_url":"https://github.com/devernay","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/devernay/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-06-21T22:34:03Z","updated_at":"2015-06-21T22:34:03Z","body":"@manuelsongokuh why not use the Rectangle plugin?"}}