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All of the forms above *Billing Modification* have titles starting with *PayPal Pro-Forms*, but the three starting at *Billing Modification* have titles starting with *PayPal Pro*. \r\n\r\nI suggest we change the titles of these four panels:\r\n\r\n*PayPal Pro / Free Registration Forms* ==> *PayPal Pro-Forms: Free Registration*\r\n*PayPal Pro Billing Modification Forms*  ==> *PayPal Pro-Forms: Billing Modification*\r\n*PayPal Pro Capability (Buy Now) Forms* ==> *PayPal Pro-Forms: Custom Capability (Buy Now)*\r\n*PayPal Pro Billing Update Forms* ==> *PayPal Pro-Forms: Billing Update*\r\n\r\nStandardization is a key component of user experience design. We should always strive to avoid confusing our users. "},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/websharks/s2member/issues/comments/122465328","html_url":"https://github.com/websharks/s2member/issues/630#issuecomment-122465328","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/websharks/s2member/issues/630","id":122465328,"user":{"login":"jaswsinc","id":1563559,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1563559?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc","html_url":"https://github.com/jaswsinc","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/jaswsinc/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-07-18T01:22:00Z","updated_at":"2015-07-18T01:22:00Z","body":"> which seems confusing since s2Member → PayPal Options → PayPal Account Details → PayPal Pro Integration indicates that PayPal Pro is not required to use Pro-Forms.\r\n\r\nI see what you mean. On the other hand, I think we created this confusion ourselves whenever we started saying that you don't \"absolutely\" need PayPal Pro, and that you can get by with just a standard PayPal account and use Express Checkout. While that's OK, and does work just fine, I still prefer to keep a focus on PayPal Pro here. Pro-Forms were designed for and work best with PayPal Pro.\r\n\r\nWhen you try to get by without a PayPal Pro account, you run into one limitation after another, and it raises questions that need to be answered in support about things that you cannot do because you're working with Pro-Forms--without having a payment gateway that supports what they were actually designed to do.\r\n\r\nThis all started when we first introduced Pro-Forms. PayPal was our primary focus and we had a lot of customers pushing the limits of what you could do with s2Member Pro-Forms. We did our best to make everyone happy, and it became very popular for a site owner to run Pro-Forms with only Express Checkout--even if that meant you were hacking things a bit.\r\n\r\nThat's still possible, but it's not the focus of Pro-Forms to do this. Now that we have Stripe as our primary focus (for many reasons), it is far better for a site owner (i.e., one who can't or won't acquire a PayPal Pro account), to simply go with Stripe instead. This is better for a variety of reasons. Cheaper, easier to work with, no credit qualifications, and it doesn't carry the expense that PayPal Pro does.\r\n\r\nIf you don't have a PayPal Pro account, you shouldn't be using Pro-Forms. You should be using PayPal Buttons, or you should be signing up for Stripe (recommended). If you _really_ want to use Pro-Forms with PayPal Express Checkout, you can still do that, but my recommendation is that you have a PayPal Pro account. Pro-Forms were designed for PayPal Pro.\r\n\r\nMy point is that to make this less confusing, we should stop selling Pro-Forms as being compatible with non-PayPal Pro accounts. We don't need to remove all mention of Express Checkout w/o Pro being possible, but we could try to improve our documentation in ways that bring more attention to Stripe instead of sending people down a path to Express Checkout w/o PayPal Pro."}}