{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/celluloid/culture/issues/8","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/celluloid/culture/issues/8/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/celluloid/culture/issues/8/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/celluloid/culture/issues/8/events","html_url":"https://github.com/celluloid/culture/issues/8","id":71455168,"number":8,"title":"What is/are the allegedly massive problem(s) in Celluloid?","user":{"login":"digitalextremist","id":21095,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/21095?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist","html_url":"https://github.com/digitalextremist","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/digitalextremist/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/celluloid/culture/labels/diatribe","name":"diatribe","color":"5319e7"}],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":null,"milestone":null,"comments":5,"created_at":"2015-04-28T02:18:04Z","updated_at":"2015-04-28T07:34:40Z","closed_at":null,"body":"@e2 your emails are sitting in my inbox and I can't get to them. I am sorry, but I want to know what you are saying. I tried for more than 8 days, but I can't see a time when I will be able to right now:\r\n\r\n* Email one: 4,860 words.\r\n    * That's just the latest reply.\r\n    * The thread in its entirety is 15,228 words.\r\n    * I anticipate if I replied, the reply I get back to *that* may be 10,000 words.\r\n* Email two: 1,271 words.\r\n    * Within 50 minutes.\r\n\r\n> Dude, no. This is not OK levels of email.\r\n\r\nBut the issue isn't the enormity of them. It's not *primarily* time investment. It's that I start my days from a positive place of building momentum, even *determination* - and I want to keep it there and end it there.... but your words are this continual refrain of how awful `Celluloid` is. It's like a path to sure failure to read those emails. I filter out whatever isn't going to at least have a *chance* at success.\r\n\r\nMaybe somewhere in there it gets to something I can do something with. I didn't make it there. My feeling is, if `Celluloid` is *that bad* and it's not just hyperbole ( as has been a doubt raised enough times for it to be really worrisome to me if I am going to spend time reading something that might just end up being this grandiose pseudo-non-fiction narrative ) me reading *that* about how bad it is is not going to fix it.\r\n\r\nYou have me *curious* though; from what *I* see, `Celluloid` is a lot of awesome things, and headed for a lot more. It's extremely poignant and viable. But us hearing what the specific failings are; once, clearly, without repetition and just a straight-up beat down of the core team's competence in ever paragraph, will get the problems fixed *if they exist* -- and it can be even better.\r\n\r\nUp to now we've each/all shown extreme respect for your opinions, but for example celluloid/celluloid#563 your cogence is just sort of 50/50, maybe more like 20/80 in dialog. And because this has become such a huge recurring situation and I want there to be not just peace but clarity and momentum, I am going to politely ask for you to take the gloves off about what you see, but *say it once, say it clearly, be prepared to defend your viewpoint* and **move on** to the next point.\r\n\r\nI am sorry I could not reply by email to let you know I cannot reply to you email, I am terrified to reply to your emails right now. It is this huge psychological burden to even think I have that large of an email in my otherwise perfectly triaged and organized and thoroughly read inbox.\r\n\r\n**So I open the floor to @e2 to christen the `diatribe` label in `celluloid/culture` now.**\r\n\r\nPlease @e2 disassemble your email(s). If there is anything in them that pertains only to me, please resend me only that by email. I want to read that. I care. Otherwise post *terse* and *succinct* issues here. If you need to splinter out into several sub-issues and reference this one and make a monumentally large network of complaints: *have at it*.\r\n\r\nI am going to mark those emails read and really hope you take me up on this invitation."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/celluloid/culture/issues/comments/96961496","html_url":"https://github.com/celluloid/culture/issues/8#issuecomment-96961496","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/celluloid/culture/issues/8","id":96961496,"user":{"login":"tarcieri","id":797,"avatar_url":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/797?v=3","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri","html_url":"https://github.com/tarcieri","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/tarcieri/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2015-04-28T07:34:40Z","updated_at":"2015-04-28T07:34:40Z","body":"@e2 gonna reiterate this...\r\n\r\n> Worse, you don't seem to listen. When I do try to post responses, you seem to simply ignore them.\r\n\r\nAre you even listening? Nothing you've said seems to have anything to do with anything I've said. It feels like a total communications breakdown."}}