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àBut€there€are€still€a€wide€variety€ofÐ	8ø Ðsources€that€do€emit€lead€into€the€air.€€ThoseÐ	Ä Ðinclude€primary€and€secondary€lead€smelters,€ironÐ	Ð Ðand€steel€foundries,€copper€smelters,€wasteÐ	œ\ Ðincinerators,€cement€manufacturing,€glassÐ	h(	 Ðmanufacturing€and€gasoline€used€in€piston€engineÐ	4!ô
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àLead€that€is€emitted€into€the€air€can€beÐ	Ì$Œ
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àMore€than€6,000€studies€have€beenÐ	@ Ðconducted€since€the€last€review€of€our€leadÐ	Ì Ðstandard,€which€was€1990,€and€they€have€examinedÐ	Ø	˜ Ðthe€effects€of€lead€on€health€in€the€environment.€Ð	¤d ÐEvidence€from€the€health€studies€indicate€thatÐ	p
0 Ðlead€in€the€blood€can€cause€harm€at€much€lowerÐ	<ü
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 ÐàÔ
àOnce€in€the€body,€lead€is€rapidlyÐ	Ô” Ðabsorbed€into€the€bloodstream€and€can€harm€manyÐ	 ` Ðorgan€systems,€including€the€central€nervousÐ	l, Ðsystem,€the€cardiovascular€system,€the€kidneysÐ	8ø Ðand€the€immune€system.€€Children€are€particularlyÐ	Ä Ðvulnerable€to€exposure€to€lead.€€They€are€moreÐ	Ð Ðlikely€to€put€fingers€and€hands€into€their€mouthsÐ	œ\ Ðafter€touching€surfaces€that€are€contaminatedÐ	h(	 Ðwith€lead€dust.Ð	4!ô
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àStudies€have€linked€lead€exposure€toÐ	#À	  Ðdamage€to€children's€developing€nervous€systemsÐ	Ì$Œ
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àAdults€can€also€be€harmed€by€lead€withÐ	ü+¼%* Ðeffects€including€increased€blood€pressure€andÐ	@ Ðdecreased€kidney€function.€€Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
àBased€on€this€evidence,€theÐ	Ø	˜ Ðadministrator€of€EPA€has€proposed€that€theÐ	¤d Ðcurrent€lead€standards€of€1.5€micrograms€perÐ	p
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 Ðshould€be€revised€to€protect€the€health€of€at„Ð	Ô” Ðrisk€populations,€especially€children.Ð	 ` ÐàÔ
àThe€administrator's€proposal€addressesÐ	l, Ðthree€key€areas:€revisions€to€the€standards,Ð	8ø Ðadjustments€to€the€lead€monitoring€network,€and€aÐ	Ä Ðstrategy€for€implementing€any€new€standard€we€mayÐ	Ð Ðset.€€We€are€seeking€comment€on€all€of€theseÐ	œ\ Ðareas€and€I€am€going€to€briefly€outline€theÐ	h(	 Ðproposed€revisions€in€each€of€these€areas.Ð	4!ô
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àWe€are€proposing€to€set€the€primaryÐ	#À	  Ðhealth„based€standard€for€lead€within€a€range€ofÐ	Ì$Œ
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àWe€are€seeking€comment€on€alternativeÐ	0*ð#( Ðlevels€of€the€standard€from€levels€below€0.10€andÐ	ü+¼%* Ðas€high€as€0.50€micrograms€per€cubic€meter.€€Ð	@ ÐàÔ
àWe€are€also€seeking€comment€on€theÐ	Ì Ðalternative€of€moving€to€a€standard€based€on€PM10Ð	Ø	˜ Ðrather€than€lead€in€total€suspended€particulatesÐ	¤d Ðand€we€are€proposing€to€make€the€secondaryÐ	p
0 Ðstandard€identical€to€the€primary€standard.€€TheÐ	<ü
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 Ðwelfare,€including€the€environment.Ð	Ô” ÐàÔ
àWe€are€also€proposing€to€revise€theÐ	 ` Ðaveraging€time€and€form€of€the€lead€standard.€Ð	l, ÐThese€are€the€air€quality€statistics€that€areÐ	8ø Ðcompared€to€the€level€of€the€standards€toÐ	Ä Ðdetermine€whether€an€area€is€meeting€theÐ	Ð Ðstandard.Ð	œ\ ÐàÔ
àWe€have€proposed€two€options€to€retainÐ	h(	 Ðthe€current€form€of€the€standard,€which€is€aÐ	4!ô
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àWe€are€also€proposing€changes€to€theÐ	Ì Ðmonitoring€network,€which€is€both€outdated€andÐ	Ø	˜ Ðinsufficient.€€Our€proposal€would€requireÐ	¤d Ðmonitors€near€all€sources€that€exceed€anÐ	p
0 Ðemissions€threshold€of€between€0.22€and€0.66€tonsÐ	<ü
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àWe€are€proposing€to€require€additionalÐ	 ` Ðmonitors€in€urban€areas€with€a€population€of€oneÐ	l, Ðmillion€or€more€in€order€to€gather€information€toÐ	8ø Ðhelp€us€better€understand€the€generalÐ	Ä Ðpopulations'€exposure€to€lead€in€air.Ð	Ð ÐàÔ
àWe€are€also€proposing€a€strategy€andÐ	œ\ Ðschedule€for€implementing€any€new€standard€we€mayÐ	h(	 Ðset€and€the€key€elements€include€the€timing€andÐ	4!ô
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àWe€anticipate€requiring€states€toÐ	0*ð#( Ðrecommend€boundaries€for€attainment€and€non„Ð	ü+¼%* Ðattainment€areas€by€September€of€2009.€€We€wouldÐ	@ Ðmake€final€designations€by€September€2011.€€Non„Ð	Ì Ðattainment€areas'€SIPs€would€be€due€in€2013€andÐ	Ø	˜ Ðall€areas€would€have€to€meet€the€revisedÐ	¤d Ðstandards€by€the€fall€of€2016.Ð	p
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àSo€that€is€a€very€brief€overview€of€thisÐ	<ü
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àThe€comment€period€for€this€proposalÐ	h(	 Ðremains€open€until€July€21€and€we€have€a€courtÐ	4!ô
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àWhat€will€happen€is€I€will€call€eachÐ	Ì Ðscheduled€speaker€to€the€microphone€and€I€willÐ	Ø	˜ Ðask€you€to€state€your€name€and€affiliation€whenÐ	¤d Ðyou€come€to€the€microphone.€€And€it€would€alsoÐ	p
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àWe€have€a€time€keeper€here,€Rebecca,€andÐ	Ì Ðshe€has€cards€and€she€will€tell€you€when€yourÐ	Ø	˜ Ðtime€is€up€and€warn€you€as€the€time€gets€reduced.Ð	¤d ÐàÔ
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àSo€I€want€to€thank€you€all€once€againÐ	Ð Ðfor€coming€to€the€hearing€today€and€we€can€begin.€Ð	œ\ ÐBut€I€think€I€need€a€list,€which€I€don't€have.€Ð	h(	 ÐThank€you.Ð	4!ô
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àOur€first€speaker€is€Frank€O'DonnellÐ	#À	  Ðfrom€Clean€Air€Watch.Ð	Ì$Œ
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àMR.€Oð	ðDONNELL:€€Good€morning.Ð	˜&X $ ÐàÔ
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àMR.€Oð	ðDONNELL:€€Pardon€my€voice€a€littleÐ	0*ð#( Ðbit.€€There€must€be€lead€dust€in€the€air€orÐ	ü+¼%* Ðsomething€at€the€parking€garage€across€theÐ	@ Ðstreet.Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
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0 ÐClean€Air€Watch,€a€nonprofit,€nonpartisan€cleanÐ	<ü
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àI€am€here€to€urge€you€to€strengthen€yourÐ	l, Ðproposal.€€Unless€you€make€this€proposal€better,Ð	8ø Ðchildren€will€remain€at€risk€of€seeing€their€IQsÐ	Ä Ðstolen€away€just€so€some€polluting€industries€canÐ	Ð Ðsave€a€little€money.Ð	œ\ ÐàÔ
àNow€before€I€go€into€details€I€wouldÐ	h(	 Ðlike€to€point€out€something€positive€and€that€isÐ	4!ô
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àAnd€then€your€criteria€document€cameÐ	p
0 Ðout,€your€scientific€review,€and€it€did€makeÐ	<ü
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àAnd€so€we€sent€a€letter€to€the€head€ofÐ	Ä Ðthe€EPA,€Stephen€Johnson,€citing€this€and€said,Ð	Ð Ð'Well,€since€you've€raised€this€issue,€maybe€itÐ	œ\ Ðwould€make€some€sense€to€actually€test€the€air€atÐ	h(	 Ðthese€tracks€and€to€find€out€whether€there'sÐ	4!ô
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àSo,€we€have€had€one€step€already€towardÐ	Ì Ðcleaner€air€and€this€review€was€partlyÐ	Ø	˜ Ðresponsible.€€But€there€are€other€lead€threatsÐ	¤d Ðout€there.€€As€you€know,€when€the€U.S.€EPA€setÐ	p
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àAnd€even€though€EPA€has€proposed€to€makeÐ	Ä Ðthe€old€standard€stronger,€moving€in€the€rightÐ	Ð Ðdirection,€once€again€the€administrator€hasÐ	œ\ Ðproposed€a€range€that€includes€levels€weaker€thanÐ	h(	 Ðthose€recommended€by€EPA's€independent€scienceÐ	4!ô
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àWe€saw€this€happen€with€the€EPAÐ	Ì$Œ
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àThe€upper€bound€of€the€range€suggestedÐ	ü+¼%* Ðby€your€science€advisors€was€0.2€micrograms€perÐ	@ Ðcubic€meter€and€yet€EPA€has€proposed€a€range€thatÐ	Ì Ðcould€permit€at€least€50€percent€more€lead€in€theÐ	Ø	˜ Ðair.€€We€think€your€proposal€seems€both€illogicalÐ	¤d Ðand€at€odds€with€the€science.€€In€theory,€you€areÐ	p
0 Ðseeking€to€make€sure€that€levels€of€lead€inÐ	<ü
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àBut€your€proposal€would€permit€levels€ofÐ	 ` Ðlead€in€the€air€that€by€your€own€analysis€couldÐ	l, Ðpermit€unhealthful€levels€of€lead€in€the€blood,Ð	8ø Ðat€least€at€the€upper€range€that€we€are€talkingÐ	Ä Ðabout€here€in€the€proposal.€€Your€own€scientistsÐ	Ð Ðand€the€independent€science€advisors€reportedÐ	œ\ Ðthat€0.2€was€absolutely€the€upper€limit€and€yourÐ	h(	 Ðscientists€even€had€suggested€a€range€thatÐ	4!ô
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àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Our€next€speaker€hasÐ	8ø Ðarrived€and€this€is€Ruth€Ann€Norton€from€theÐ	Ä ÐCoalition€to€End€Childhood€Lead€Poisoning.Ð	Ð ÐàÔ
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àThe€Coalition€to€End€Childhood€LeadÐ	l, ÐPoisoning,€I€did€all€that.€€I€have€served€as€theÐ	8ø Ðdirector€of€the€Coalition€since€1993.€€DuringÐ	Ä Ðthat€time€Maryland€has€been€the€beneficiary€of€aÐ	Ð Ðdramatic€decline€in€childhood€lead€poisoning,Ð	œ\ Ðhaving€had€rates€fall€by€approximately€95€percentÐ	h(	 Ðsince€1993.Ð	4!ô
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àLead€pollution€comes€out€of€over€16,000Ð	Ô” Ðpollution€sources€in€the€U.S.€including€smelters,Ð	 ` Ðrefineries,€kilns€and€airports.€€When€leadÐ	l, Ðparticulates€get€into€the€air,€they€can€settle€onÐ	8ø Ðsoil€and€contaminate€areas€where€children€play,Ð	Ä Ðwhere€they€remain€hazards€indefinitely.€€EPAÐ	Ð Ðshould€and€through€these€„„€through€your€plansÐ	œ\ Ðestablish€an€air€monitoring€system€that€canÐ	h(	 Ðadequately€measure€lead€in€air€to€ensureÐ	4!ô
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0 ÐDefense€Council,€the€Environmental€Defense€FundÐ	<ü
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0 Ðthat€block€of€what€used€to€be€called€the€MiddleÐ	<ü
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àAnd€we€were€able€to€bring€levels€downÐ	 ` Ðsignificantly€using€the€monitoring€systems€thatÐ	l, Ðcollected€the€particulate€in€water,€collected€itÐ	8ø Ðthrough€air€sampling€and€also€through€someÐ	Ä Ðsurface€dust€sampling,€but€in€a€city€environmentÐ	Ð Ðthat€is€much€more€difficult€because€you€don'tÐ	œ\ Ðknow€if€it€is€moving€or€if€it€is€actually€comingÐ	h(	 Ðdown.Ð	4!ô
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àDR.€TAHILIANI:€€Good€morning.Ð	8ø ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Good€morning.Ð	Ä ÐàÔ
àDR.€TAHILIANI:€€The€American€Academy€ofÐ	Ð ÐPediatrics,€a€nonprofit€professional€organizationÐ	œ\ Ðof€60,000€primary€care€pediatricians,€pediatricÐ	h(	 Ðmedical€subspecialists€and€pediatric€surgicalÐ	4!ô
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àThe€myriad€toxic€effects€of€lead€onÐ	@ Ðfetal,€child€and€adult€health€were€clearlyÐ	Ì Ðsummarized€in€the€National€Ambient€Air€QualityÐ	Ø	˜ ÐStandard€proposed€rule€and€more€comprehensivelyÐ	¤d Ðoutlined€in€numerous€other€EPA€documents.€€ThereÐ	p
0 Ðis€no€known€safe€level€of€blood€lead€in€children.€Ð	<ü
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àThe€Academy€calls€upon€the€EPA€to€set€aÐ	Ä Ðlead€National€Ambient€Air€Quality€Standard€of€0.2Ð	Ð Ðmicrograms€per€cubic€meter€or€lower€for€a€revisedÐ	œ\ Ðstandard€as€recommended€by€the€Clean€AirÐ	h(	 ÐScientific€Advisory€Committee.€€The€lead€NationalÐ	4!ô
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0 Ð99.5€percent€level.€€You€said,€if€I€understoodÐ	<ü
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àDR.€TAHILIANI:€€Right.Ð	l, ÐàÔ
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àMS.€WEGMAN:€€We€had€a€target€level€of€noÐ	Ð Ðmore€than€one€to€two€IQ€points€in€our€proposal.€Ð	œ\ ÐDo€you€have€a€number€or€is€any€decreased€IQ€„„?Ð	h(	 ÐàÔ
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àMR.€ORLIN:€€I€just€had€a€question€on€theÐ	@ Ðnumber€of€children.€€You€said€3.5€millionÐ	Ì Ðchildren€is€what€percent?€€Is€that€five€percentÐ	Ø	˜ Ðor€„„?Ð	¤d ÐàÔ
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 Ðif€anybody€should€show€up€to€speak,€but€we€do,€asÐ	Ô” ÐI€say,€since€we€have€no€registered€speakers€untilÐ	 ` Ð5:50,€later€this€afternoon,€I€think€we€willÐ	l, Ðadjourn€so€that€we€don't€have€everybody€sittingÐ	8ø Ðaround€needlessly.Ð	Ä ÐàÔ
àOur€next€speaker€is€Andy€Cebula.€€He'sÐ	Ð Ðfrom€the€Aircraft€Owners€and€Pilots€AssociationÐ	œ\ Ðand€if€you€could€just€be€sure€to€speak€into€theÐ	h(	 Ðmicrophone€and€just€spell€your€name€for€the€courtÐ	4!ô
 Ðreporter.Ð	#À	  ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€All€right.Ð	Ì$Œ
" ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€That€would€be€very€helpful.Ð	˜&X $ ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€Okay,€it's€Andy€Cebula.€€MyÐ	d($"& Ðlast€name€is€spelled€C„E„B„U„L„A€and€I€am€theÐ	0*ð#( ÐExecutive€Vice€President€for€Government€AffairsÐ	ü+¼%* Ðfor€the€Aircraft€Owners€and€Pilots€AssociationÐ	@ Ðand€we€represent€415,000€pilots€across€the€UnitedÐ	Ì ÐStates,€which€is€roughly€about€two„thirds€of€theÐ	Ø	˜ Ðnation's€pilot€population.Ð	¤d ÐàÔ
àSo€I€am€coming€here€this€morning€notÐ	p
0 Ðnecessarily€as€a€technical€expert€but€as€aÐ	<ü
 Ðperson,€as€representing€a€community€that€isÐ	È
 Ðaffected€by€anything€that€is€altering€or€changingÐ	Ô” Ðthe€fuel€that€many€of€our€members€use€inÐ	 ` Ðoperation€of€their€aircraft.€€So€I€thought€ifÐ	l, Ðnothing€else,€at€least€we€could€come€and€share€aÐ	8ø Ðlittle€bit€about€who€we€are€as€a€community.Ð	Ä ÐàÔ
àFirst€of€all,€we€are€referred€to€asÐ	Ð Ðgeneral€aviation,€which€for€simple€explanationsÐ	œ\ Ðreally€means€anything€other€than€the€military€orÐ	h(	 Ðthe€airlines.€€Typically€it€is€an€individual€thatÐ	4!ô
 Ðhas€an€aircraft€for€personal€or€businessÐ	#À	  Ðtransportation.€€About€60€percent€of€generalÐ	Ì$Œ
" Ðaviation€flying€is€for€business€purposes.€€It€canÐ	˜&X $ Ðbe€emergency€medical€services;€of€course€flightÐ	d($"& Ðtraining€is€a€big€part€of€general€aviationÐ	0*ð#( Ðbecause€we€pretty€much,€other€than€the€military,Ð	ü+¼%* Ðwe€are€the€part€of€the€air€transportation€systemÐ	@ Ðthat€is€doing€flight€training.Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
àThe€economic€benefit€from€generalÐ	Ø	˜ Ðaviation,€both€direct€and€indirect,€is€about€$150Ð	¤d Ðbillion€for€the€United€States.€€To€get€a€contextÐ	p
0 Ðthough€about€what€general€aviation€is,€there€areÐ	<ü
 Ð18,000€landing€facilities€in€the€United€States.€Ð	È
 ÐOf€those,€about€5,400€are€public€use€airports.€Ð	Ô” ÐThe€airlines€fly€into,€and€I€am€probably€being€aÐ	 ` Ðlittle€generous€with€them,€about€500€airports,€soÐ	l, Ðyou€can€see€that€general€aviation€is€a€reallyÐ	8ø Ðimportant€part€of€the€nation's€aviation€system,Ð	Ä Ðboth€around€metropolitan€areas€and€then€when€youÐ	Ð Ðget€out€into€rural€areas.Ð	œ\ ÐàÔ
àNow€when€you€look€at€the€entire€aircraftÐ	h(	 Ðpopulation,€there€is€about€220,000€generalÐ	4!ô
 Ðaviation€aircraft€in€the€fleet.€€About€167,000€ofÐ	#À	  Ðthose€use€aviation€gasoline.€€Aviation€gasolineÐ	Ì$Œ
" Ðis€referred€to€as€100€low„lead.€€It's€got€lessÐ	˜&X $ Ðlead€than€it€used€to€have€but€it€does€have€lead,Ð	d($"& Ðso€167,000€aircraft€are€dependent€on€this€fuel.Ð	0*ð#( ÐàÔ
àWe€have€in€our€industry€a€reliance€onÐ	ü+¼%* Ðthis€fuel€and€the€lead€that€is€in€the€fuelÐ	@ Ðbecause€of€the€safety€of€flight€issue€and€as€theÐ	Ì ÐEPA€and€Congress€dealt€with€the€issue€of€lead€andÐ	Ø	˜ Ðgetting€it€out€of€motor€gasoline€in€the€earlyÐ	¤d Ð'90s,€there€was€always,€and€I'll€use€the€wordÐ	p
0 Ð'exemption.'€€That€may€not€be€legally€the€rightÐ	<ü
 Ðword,€but€there€was€a€recognition€that€this€fuelÐ	È
 Ðwas€unique€and€general€aviation€was€unique,€soÐ	Ô” Ðcertainly€as€now€that€has€changed,€obviously€weÐ	 ` Ðhave€become€a€much€higher€proportion.Ð	l, ÐàÔ
àThat€said,€I€think€that€you€have€to€lookÐ	8ø Ðat€the€total€consumption€of€aviation€gasoline€inÐ	Ä Ðthe€year€is€about€255€million.€€For€motorÐ	Ð Ðgasoline€in€a€day€it's€about€388€million.€€So€weÐ	œ\ Ðare€not€even,€in€our€annual€usage€of€fuel,€we€areÐ	h(	 Ðnot€even€what€the€motor€gasoline€is€in€a€day.€€SoÐ	4!ô
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àAnd€the€amount€of€fuel€being€consumed€„„Ð	Ì$Œ
" Ðaviation€gasoline€being€consumed€is€also€goingÐ	˜&X $ Ðdown.€€The€numbers€that€we€have€from€the€FAA€showÐ	d($"& Ðthat€there€has€been€an€18€percent€decrease€in€theÐ	0*ð#( Ðfuel€consumption€from€2002€through€2007,€so€youÐ	ü+¼%* Ðcan€see€that€it€is€a€fairly€small€overallÐ	@ Ðconsumption€and€that€consumption€is€going€down.Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
àA€lot€of€people€are€moving€either€toÐ	Ø	˜ Ðturbine€powered,€which€would€be€jet€engineÐ	¤d Ðaircraft,€or€they€are€now€a€few,€it€is€kind€of€anÐ	p
0 Ðemerging€market,€where€people€are€turning€toÐ	<ü
 Ðdiesel€fuel€as€well,€which€is€starting€to€becomeÐ	È
 Ðmore€and€more€into€the€general€aviationÐ	Ô” Ðmarketplace.€Ð	 ` ÐàÔ
àThe€lead€is€really€critical€to€safetyÐ	l, Ðbecause€a€lot€of€the€engine€technology€is€olderÐ	8ø Ðtechnology€and€so€the€lead€is€the€easiest€way€toÐ	Ä Ðaccommodate€the€need€for€the€higher€compressionÐ	Ð Ðengines€in€the€air.€€And€during€the€FAAÐ	œ\ Ðcertification€process,€there€are€demands€that€areÐ	h(	 Ðput€on€an€aircraft€engine€that€it€cannot€fail.€Ð	4!ô
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" Ðpart€of€aviation€safety€and€I€think€as€the€EPAÐ	˜&X $ Ðhas€looked€at€this€issue,€the€FAA€has€come€in€andÐ	d($"& Ðargued€that€pretty€strongly.Ð	0*ð#( ÐàÔ
àWe€have€a€kind€of€a€unique€situation€inÐ	ü+¼%* Ðour€community€right€now€as€we€look€at€where€weÐ	@ Ðare€and€as€we€look€ahead,€and€that€is€that€if€youÐ	Ì Ðtook€that€167,000€aircraft,€and€I€am€kind€ofÐ	Ø	˜ Ðrounding€things€off€here€a€little€bit,€but€IÐ	¤d Ðthink€the€illustration€is€very€appropriate€andÐ	p
0 Ðcorrect,€and€that€is€about€70€percent€of€thoseÐ	<ü
 Ðaircraft€could€use€a€different,€a€lower,€I€willÐ	È
 Ðcall€it€lower,€again€simplistically,€a€lowerÐ	Ô” Ðoctane,€more€maybe€to€motor€gasoline,€fuel.Ð	 ` ÐàÔ
àUnfortunately,€and€so€that€other€30Ð	l, Ðpercent€that€would€remain€needs€the€lead€additiveÐ	8ø Ðtoday,€that€is€the€largest€user€of€aviationÐ	Ä Ðgasoline,€so€we€call€it€the€70/30€Rule.€€And€soÐ	Ð Ð70€percent€of€the€fleet€could€run€on€a€lowerÐ	œ\ Ðoctane€fuel,€one€that€maybe€doesn't€need€lead,Ð	h(	 Ðbut€the€30€percent€that€need€it€account€for€aboutÐ	4!ô
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" Ðbeen€really€wrestling€with€as€an€aviationÐ	˜&X $ Ðindustry.Ð	d($"& ÐàÔ
àOne€of€the€things€that€I€wanted€to€shareÐ	0*ð#( Ðwith€you€and€it€is€an€exciting€development€withinÐ	ü+¼%* Ðthe€industry,€and€that€is€that€we€are€recognizingÐ	@ Ðthat€both€with€the€work€that€you€are€doing€and€aÐ	Ì Ðpetition€that€was€filed€last€year€by€the€FriendsÐ	Ø	˜ Ðof€the€Earth€on€lead€in€aviation€gasoline,€thatÐ	¤d Ðthere€are€certainly€a€lot€of€environmentalÐ	p
0 Ðinterest,€concern€about€the€lead€in€aviationÐ	<ü
 Ðgasoline.Ð	È
 ÐàÔ
àLikewise,€because€we€are€such€a€smallÐ	Ô” Ðcomponent€of€the€overall€petroleum€picture,€thereÐ	 ` Ðare€economic€issues€too€because€leaded€gasolineÐ	l, Ðhas€to€be,€for€aviation€uses,€has€to€be€handledÐ	8ø Ðseparately€and€distinctly,€so€it€has€a€dedicatedÐ	Ä Ðtransportation€system.€€And€so€the€commitment€byÐ	Ð Ðthose€companies€is€pretty€significant€when€theyÐ	œ\ Ðare€going€to€be€in€the€aviation€marketplace.Ð	h(	 ÐàÔ
àThe€point€is,€we€recognize€as€anÐ	4!ô
 Ðindustry€that€we€need€to€come€together€andÐ	#À	  Ðdevelop€a€way€through€this€and€into€the€future.€Ð	Ì$Œ
" ÐAnd€while€we€are€very€much€at€what€I€would€callÐ	˜&X $ Ðthe€fledgling€stages,€there€is€at€least€a€planÐ	d($"& Ðthat€is€in€a€draft€form€that€is€being€discussedÐ	0*ð#( Ðamong€AOPA,€the€manufacturers€of€general€aviationÐ	ü+¼%* Ðaircraft,€and€the€other€users€of€aviationÐ	@ Ðgasoline,€as€to€how€we€move€ahead€and€that€willÐ	Ì Ðinclude€a€couple€of€things.Ð	Ø	˜ ÐàÔ
àFirst€of€all,€we€have€got€to€agree€on€aÐ	¤d Ðstandard€that€would€be€the€replacement€fuel€thatÐ	p
0 Ðwould€not€have€lead€in€it€and€what€octane€that€isÐ	<ü
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 Ðaircraft€in€the€fleet€as€possible.Ð	Ô” ÐàÔ
àSecondly,€we€have€to€research€what€kindÐ	 ` Ðof€modifications€would€need€to€be€made€toÐ	l, Ðexisting€aircraft;€again,€they€are€pretty€highÐ	8ø Ðusage€aircraft;€what€kind€of€modifications€theyÐ	Ä Ðwould€need€to€run€on€this,€I€will€call€it€theÐ	Ð Ðfuture€aviation€gasoline.Ð	œ\ ÐàÔ
àAnd€then€of€course€we€have€to€go€throughÐ	h(	 Ðthe€process€of€obtaining€FAA€certification.€€WeÐ	4!ô
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" Ðthe€marketplace.€€Ð	˜&X $ ÐàÔ
àNow€there€is€one€other€issue€that€isÐ	d($"& Ðreally€important€to€recognize€as€we€look€atÐ	0*ð#( Ðaviation€fuel,€and€that€is€the€distributionÐ	ü+¼%* Ðnetwork.€€The€aviation€retailer,€which€in€theÐ	@ Ðindustry€is€called€a€'fixed„based€operator;'€itÐ	Ì Ðjust€means€they€are€located€at€an€airport€asÐ	Ø	˜ Ðopposed€to€flying€around€in€the€aviation€system,Ð	¤d Ðright€now€they€only€sell€typically€two€fuels.€Ð	p
0 ÐThey€will€sell€aviation€gasoline,€100€low„lead,Ð	<ü
 Ðand€they€will€sell€jet€fuel.€€Ð	È
 ÐàÔ
àFor€them€to€sell€a€third€product,€let'sÐ	Ô” Ðsay€this€new€successor€fuel,€in€duplicate€whileÐ	 ` Ðthe€100€low„lead€is€being€phased€out,€is€going€toÐ	l, Ðbe€a€big€question.€€And€we€certainly€are€not€in€aÐ	8ø Ðposition€to€be€able€to€answer€for€theÐ	Ä Ðmarketplace,€answer€for€those€operators,€how€theyÐ	Ð Ðare€going€to€approach€that.€€But€that€is€going€toÐ	œ\ Ðbe€kind€of€a€final€„„€once€we€get€past€the€fuelÐ	h(	 Ðstandard,€once€we€get€past€the€certificationÐ	4!ô
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" ÐàÔ
àSo€with€that,€I€„„€we€have€covered€thisÐ	˜&X $ Ðin€more€detail€in€our€written€statement€and€IÐ	d($"& Ðwould€be€happy€to€try€and€respond€to€anyÐ	0*ð#( Ðquestions€that€you€might€have.Ð	ü+¼%* ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€I€will€just€ask,€does€yourÐ	@ Ðassociation€have€any€opinion€on€our€proposal€asÐ	Ì Ðfar€as€the€National€Ambient€Air€Quality€standardÐ	Ø	˜ Ðand€whether€we€should€go€with€the€„„€somewhereÐ	¤d Ðwithin€the€level€we€have€proposed€or€not.Ð	p
0 ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€No,€we€have€not€examined€itÐ	<ü
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 Ðfor€us€are€really€difficult€because€of€how€youÐ	Ô” Ðmay€actually€ask€communities€to€do€theÐ	 ` Ðmonitoring.€€What€I€felt€like€was€important€isÐ	l, Ðthat€you€could€at€least€understand€a€little€aboutÐ	8ø Ðwho€we€are€and€also€understand€the€commitment,Ð	Ä Ðthe€recognition€of€the€issue€and€the€commitmentÐ	Ð Ðthat€we€realize€that€we€are€going€to€have€to€moveÐ	œ\ Ðahead.€€So€whatever€the€EPA€is€going€to€have€toÐ	h(	 Ðdo€for€„„€in€a€monitoring€requirement,€my€guessÐ	4!ô
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" ÐAnd€I€can't€sit€here€today€and€tell€you€that€10,Ð	˜&X $ Ð15,€20€years,€whatever€it€is,€but€it€is€not€goingÐ	d($"& Ðgot€be€a€continuation€in€the€future.Ð	0*ð#( ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€So€you€are€basicallyÐ	ü+¼%* Ðenvisioning€some€kind€of€phase„out€of€the€lead€inÐ	@ Ðav€gas.Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€Yes,€yes.Ð	Ø	˜ ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Yes.Ð	¤d ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€Yes.€€I€just€„„€it's€justÐ	p
0 Ðat€this€point€in€time€we€are€at€a€point€whereÐ	<ü
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 Ðframe€is€going€to€be.Ð	Ô” ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Right,€right.€€Okay,€thatÐ	 ` Ðis€very€helpful.€€I€actually€just€had€one€otherÐ	l, Ðtechnical€question.€€When€you€were€talking€aboutÐ	8ø Ðthe€30€percent€of€the€aircraft€that€use€the€70Ð	Ä Ðpercent€of€the€av€gas,€just€out€of€curiosity,€doÐ	Ð Ðyou€anticipate€those€aircraft€ultimately€beingÐ	œ\ Ðretired€or€refurbished€to€transition€to€thisÐ	h(	 Ðthird€type€of€fuel?Ð	4!ô
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àMR.€CEBULA:€€Well,€the€hope€would€beÐ	#À	  Ðthat€there€would€be€some€sort€of€a€modificationÐ	Ì$Œ
" Ðthat€could€be€made€to€the€engine€that€would€beÐ	˜&X $ Ðfairly€low€cost€that€would€essentially,€and€againÐ	d($"& ÐI€will€talk€fairly€simplistically€on€this,€but,Ð	0*ð#( Ðbecause€I€am€not€a€mechanic€by€trade€„„Ð	ü+¼%* ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Me€either,€not€to€worry.Ð	@ ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€But€it€will€essentiallyÐ	Ì Ðadjust€the€timing€so€that€you€could€maintain€theÐ	Ø	˜ Ðhigh€power€output€but€do€it€on€a€lower€octaneÐ	¤d Ðfuel.€€And€so€what€we€are€going€to€have€to€do€asÐ	p
0 Ðan€industry€is€say€okay,€who€do€we€want€„„€how€doÐ	<ü
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 Ðthe€smallest€of€engines€to€the€largest€ofÐ	Ô” Ðengines,€where€do€we€want€to€draw€the€line€forÐ	 ` Ðthe€standard,€for€the€fuel€standard,€so€thatÐ	l, Ðanybody€above€that€line,€they€are€okay.€€AnybodyÐ	8ø Ðbelow€that€line,€there€is€going€to€have€to€be€aÐ	Ä Ðmodification.Ð	Ð ÐàÔ
àIt€may€be€that€some€of€the€aircraft€inÐ	œ\ Ðthe€fleet,€like€air€show€performers,€they€end€upÐ	h(	 Ðhaving€what€essentially€would€be€a€very€boutiqueÐ	4!ô
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" Ðreally€do€see€that€it€will€be€some€sort€of€aÐ	˜&X $ Ðmodification€to€the€engine.Ð	d($"& ÐàÔ
àAgain,€with€enough€phase„in€time,€itÐ	0*ð#( Ðcould€be€done€through€overhauls,€through€overhaulÐ	ü+¼%* Ðcycles,€because€in€an€aircraft,€you€have€toÐ	@ Ðoverhaul€the€engine€„„Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€You€do.Ð	Ø	˜ ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€„„€or€have€seriousÐ	¤d Ðexaminations€during€its€process€of€use.Ð	p
0 ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€I€see.€€Yes.€€Okay.€€AndÐ	<ü
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 Ðevery€five€years€or€it€depends€how€much€you€useÐ	Ô” Ðit€I€suppose?Ð	 ` ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€It€depends€on€the€type€ofÐ	l, Ðaircraft.€€You€have€to€do€it€„„€every€100€hoursÐ	8ø Ðyou€are€doing€some€inspection€of€the€air€frameÐ	Ä Ðand€the€engine€but€you€are€also€having€to€changeÐ	Ð Ðoil€on€a€pretty€frequent€basis€and€some€otherÐ	œ\ Ðthings.€€So€there€are€different€reasons€whyÐ	h(	 Ðpeople€would€be€looking€at€an€engine€but€it€isÐ	4!ô
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" ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Okay.€€That's€very€helpful.€Ð	˜&X $ ÐÌàÔ
àMR.€ORLIN:€€Just,€you€said€currentÐ	0*ð#( Ðconsumption€is€255€million,€gallons€was€that?Ð	ü+¼%* ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€Correct.€€Right.€€And€thatÐ	@ Ðis€on€an€annual€basis.Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
àMR.€ORLIN:€€Okay.€€And€I€guess,€I€don'tÐ	Ø	˜ Ðknow,€if€the€thinking€has€proceeded€this€far,€butÐ	¤d Ðyou€said€there€is€currently€a€lower€octane€fuelÐ	p
0 Ðavailable€and€do€you€have€a€sense€of€where€thatÐ	<ü
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 Ðdiscussion€for€the€future?Ð	Ô” ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€Yes,€we€don't.€€There€isÐ	 ` Ðnot€an€aviation€fuel€that€is€available€right€now.€Ð	l, ÐWhen€you€start€looking€at€alternatives,€there€areÐ	8ø Ðsome€aircraft€that€are€actually€permitted€by€theÐ	Ä ÐFAA€to€use€auto€gasoline,€okay?€€They€do€itÐ	Ð Ðunder,€excuse€me,€something€called€theÐ	œ\ ÐSupplemental€Type€Certificate.€€Now€the€problemÐ	h(	 Ðright€now€is€that€you€„„€the€FAA€does€not€allowÐ	4!ô
 Ðyou€to€use€an€ethanol€blended€motor€gasoline.€€SoÐ	#À	  Ðit€is€really€tough€to€find€it€and€it€has€becomeÐ	Ì$Œ
" Ðquite€the€web€board€kind€of€chat€room€complaintsÐ	˜&X $ Ðwe€get€from€members,€that€has€become€a€pretty€bigÐ	d($"& Ðissue.Ð	0*ð#( ÐàÔ
àAs€a€matter€of€fact,€this€past€weekend€IÐ	ü+¼%* Ðgot€an€earful€from€a€member€at€a€fly„in€we€hadÐ	@ Ðabout€this€very€topic.Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
àSo€that€is€not€really€a€viableÐ	Ø	˜ Ðalternative€for€us€but€something€that€is€at€leastÐ	¤d Ðable€to€be€handled€through€the€distributionÐ	p
0 Ðnetwork,€that€is€used€for€motor€gasoline,€isÐ	<ü
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 ÐàÔ
àThe€octane€rating€for€car€fuel,Ð	Ô” Ðautomobile€gasoline€versus€aviation€gasoline€isÐ	 ` Ðactually€a€little€different€type€of€octane€ratingÐ	l, Ðso€they€don't€mean€exactly€the€same€thing.€€But€IÐ	8ø Ðthink€for€just€illustrative€purposes,€we€wouldÐ	Ä Ðprobably€be€talking€about€something€that€is€atÐ	Ð Ðleast€at€the€high€end€of€motor€gasoline€octaneÐ	œ\ Ðrating,€something€like€that.€€Again,€that€is€partÐ	h(	 Ðof€what€we€are€really€going€to€have€to€look€atÐ	4!ô
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" Ðhave€to€be€made€from€that.Ð	˜&X $ ÐàÔ
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àMR.€ORLIN:€€Thank€you.Ð	@ ÐàÔ
àMR.€CEBULA:€€Thank€you.Ð	Ì ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Thank€you€very€much.€€Okay.€Ð	Ø	˜ ÐOur€next€speaker€is€Teresa€Bowers,€andÐ	¤d Ðrepresenting€American€Petroleum€Institute.Ð	p
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àMS.€BOWERS:€€My€name€is€Teresa€Bowers.€Ð	Ô” ÐThat€is€spelled€B„O„W„E„R„S€and€I€work€forÐ	 ` ÐGradient€Corporation,€which€is€an€environmentalÐ	l, Ðconsulting€firm€that€specializes€in€human€healthÐ	8ø Ðrisk€assessment.€€My€appearance€here€today€isÐ	Ä Ðsponsored€by€the€American€Petroleum€Institute.Ð	Ð ÐàÔ
àI€am€a€geochemist€and€a€risk€assessorÐ	œ\ Ðand€I€have€worked€for€many€years€on€issuesÐ	h(	 Ðinvolving€naturally€occurring€elements€in€ourÐ	4!ô
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àI€have€been€involved€in€this€NAAQSÐ	˜&X $ Ðreview€process€since€late€2004€when€the€currentÐ	d($"& Ðreview€cycle€began€and€today€I€want€to€make€a€fewÐ	0*ð#( Ðcomments€about€the€proposed€rule.Ð	ü+¼%* ÐàÔ
àFirst,€I€would€like€to€commend€EPA€onÐ	@ Ðthe€amazing€amount€of€detailed€work€that€has€goneÐ	Ì Ðinto€this€proposed€rule€and€the€technicalÐ	Ø	˜ Ðdocuments€that€preceded€it,€which€were€allÐ	¤d Ðcompleted€over€a€very€short€period€of€time.€€ThisÐ	p
0 ÐNAAQS€review€began€the€transition€to€EPA's€newÐ	<ü
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 Ðefficiency€of€the€process€in€order€to€meet€theÐ	Ô” Ðgoal€of€reviewing€each€NAAQS€within€the€five„yearÐ	 ` Ðcycle€required€by€the€Clean€Air€Act.Ð	l, ÐàÔ
àAnd€the€risk€assessment,€the€staff€paperÐ	8ø Ðand€the€ANPRM€provided€an€excellent€framework€forÐ	Ä Ðthe€development€of€the€proposed€rule,€andÐ	Ð Ðquantification€of€the€link€between€environmentalÐ	œ\ Ðlevels,€exposures,€estimated€health€impacts€andÐ	h(	 Ðthe€uncertainties€associated€with€these€linkages.Ð	4!ô
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àHowever,€and€you€knew€this€was€coming,Ð	#À	  Ðin€the€proposed€rule€there€are€areas€whereÐ	Ì$Œ
" Ðinformation€is€missing,€incomplete€or€unclear€andÐ	˜&X $ ÐI€would€like€to€talk€about€three€of€these€today.Ð	d($"& ÐàÔ
àOne€area€that€would€benefit€from€furtherÐ	0*ð#( Ðclarification€is€the€description€of€theÐ	ü+¼%* Ðscientific€basis€of€Table€7€of€the€proposed€rule.€Ð	@ ÐThis€is€the€table€that€lays€out€a€range€of€IQÐ	Ì Ðdecrements€estimated€to€occur€at€various€levelsÐ	Ø	˜ Ðof€this€criteria€polluted€in€air€and€it€is€theÐ	¤d Ðmost€important€page€in€the€proposed€rule€in€thatÐ	p
0 Ðapparently€EPA€will€make€a€final€decision€aboutÐ	<ü
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 ÐàÔ
àHowever,€EPA's€Clean€Air€ScienceÐ	Ô” ÐAdvisory€Committee€earlier€this€week€noted€thatÐ	 ` Ðthe€scientific€basis€of€this€table€is€not€wellÐ	l, Ðexplained€in€the€proposed€rule€and€concluded€thatÐ	8ø Ðit€represents€new€science,€which€they€had€not€yetÐ	Ä Ðhad€the€opportunity€to€review.Ð	Ð ÐàÔ
àHowever,€from€my€review,€everything€inÐ	œ\ Ðthe€table€is€based€on€information€in€either€theÐ	h(	 Ðcriteria€document€or€the€risk€assessment,Ð	4!ô
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àA€second€area€needing€further€discussionÐ	@ Ðin€the€proposed€rule€is€the€temporal€variabilityÐ	Ì Ðof€ambient€air€levels€of€this€criteria€pollutantÐ	Ø	˜ Ðand€the€effect€of€that€variability€on€estimatedÐ	¤d Ðrisks.€€This€is€especially€important€for€aÐ	p
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àThis€variability,€which€results€fromÐ	Ô” Ðvariable€emissions€and€variable€meteorologicalÐ	 ` Ðconditions,€is€well€formulated€in€EPA's€riskÐ	l, Ðassessment.€€But€discussion€of€it€is€missing€fromÐ	8ø Ðthe€proposed€rule.€€Ð	Ä ÐàÔ
àAs€a€consequence€of€the€variability,€theÐ	Ð Ðannual€average€air€level€is€always€lower€than€theÐ	œ\ Ðhighest€monthly€or€quarterly€average,€thusÐ	h(	 Ðestimated€risks€differ€depending€on€the€averagingÐ	4!ô
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àThe€presentation€of€estimated€risks€inÐ	0*ð#( Ðthe€proposed€rule€needs€to€be€clarified€so€thatÐ	ü+¼%* Ðthe€reader€understands€which€averaging€times€wereÐ	@ Ðused€as€a€basis€for€each€of€the€estimated€risks.€Ð	Ì ÐThe€proposed€rule€should€also€have€described€andÐ	Ø	˜ Ðdocumented€what€is€known€and€not€known€about€theÐ	¤d Ðtiming€of€health€effects€of€interest€relative€toÐ	p
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àThe€two€goals€are€not€mutuallyÐ	#À	  Ðexclusive.€€Source€oriented€monitors€should€alsoÐ	Ì$Œ
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àThank€you€for€this€opportunity€toÐ	Ì Ðprovide€comments€this€morning€and€I€would€beÐ	Ø	˜ Ðhappy€to€answer€any€questions€you€might€have.Ð	¤d ÐàÔ
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àMS.€BOWERS:€€Yes.€€In€the€riskÐ	Ð Ðassessment,€every€presentation€of€risk€is€madeÐ	œ\ Ðwith€a€discussion€of€what€the€averaging€time€wasÐ	h(	 Ðand€what€„„€so€the€monthly€average,€the€quarterlyÐ	4!ô
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àMS.€BOWERS:€€I€don't€have€a€comment€atÐ	Ø	˜ Ðthis€time€on€those.€€I€think€the€technicalÐ	¤d Ðdocuments€did€a€very€good€job€of€laying€out€theÐ	p
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àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Okay.€€Ð	8ø ÐàÔ
àMS.€BOWERS:€Thank€you.€€Ð	Ä ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Let€me€check.€€Any€„„€€justÐ	Ð Ðone€second.Ð	œ\ ÐàÔ
àMR.€ORLIN:€€These€are€very€good€points.€Ð	h(	 ÐI€guess€I€was€a€little€curious€if€API€members€areÐ	4!ô
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àMR.€ORLIN:€€I€just€was€not€aware€that€„„Ð	ü+¼%* ÐI€guess,€can€you€elaborate€on€the€sources€ofÐ	@ Ðemissions€from€API€members?€€Are€they€identifiedÐ	Ì Ðin€the€criteria€document?Ð	Ø	˜ ÐàÔ
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àMS.€BOWERS:€€Okay.Ð	 ` ÐàÔ
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àMR.€EWART:€€Certainly.€€I€am€Gary€Ewart,Ð	Ì ÐDirector€of€Government€Relations€for€the€AmericanÐ	Ø	˜ ÐThoracic€Society.€€And€I€am€pleased€to€be€hereÐ	¤d Ðbefore€this€public€hearing€to€collect€testimonyÐ	p
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àMR.€EWART:€€This€will€be€my€attempt€atÐ	Ä ÐAmerican€Idol€in€getting€up€close€to€the€mikeÐ	Ð Ðthere.€€The€American€Thoracic€Society€is€veryÐ	œ\ Ðpleased€to€comment€on€this€and€I€have€to€say€asÐ	h(	 Ðan€editorial,€I€am€a€little€disappointed€there€isÐ	4!ô
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àAs€you€know,€the€current€standard€of€1.5Ð	@ Ðmicrograms€per€cubic€meter€over€a€three„monthÐ	Ì Ðperiod€was€established€in€1978.€€At€the€time€itÐ	Ø	˜ Ðwas€a€fairly€aggressive€standard€and€marked€anÐ	¤d Ðimportant€step€in€improving€our€nation's€airÐ	p
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àLead€was€once€widely€used€in€gasolineÐ	8ø Ðand€paint€products€and€is€still€released€as€aÐ	Ä Ðbyproduct€of€many€industrial€processes,Ð	Ð Ðparticularly€from€power€plants,€smelters,€cementÐ	œ\ Ðkilns,€and€is€also€present€in€some€types€ofÐ	h(	 Ðaviation€fuel.€€The€known€effects€of€lead€includeÐ	4!ô
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àThe€ATS€supports€a€standard€of€no€higherÐ	œ\ Ðthan€0.2€micrograms€per€cubic€meter€over€a€one„Ð	h(	 Ðmonth€period.€€This€recommendation€is€unanimouslyÐ	4!ô
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àAnd€with€that,€I€would€be€happy€toÐ	l, Ðanswer€any€questions.Ð	8ø ÐàÔ
àMS.€WEGMAN:€€Thank€you.€€We€will€lookÐ	Ä Ðforward€to€your€comments€on€PM10€since€that's€anÐ	Ð Ðissue€that€has€a€lot€of€different€dimensions€toÐ	œ\ Ðit.€€Just€one€question€on€using€a€monthlyÐ	h(	 Ðaveraging€period,€do€you€have€a€view€on€whetherÐ	4!ô
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