Ladies and gentlemen, we're ready for the next presentation, so it gives me a great pleasure to introduce Paul Burns to you again. Paul Burns is with us from America. What part of America, Paul? I'm living in Florida, though. Florida? You know where to find them. Paul is going to talk to us about the plan O'Burn of Leicester as defined by its DNA. Now Paul spent 30 years doing intelligence work much of the time in Latin America and later as a private investigator. He's been involved in genealogy and genetic genealogy for many years and his plan O'Burn and Burns DNA project is one of the largest on Family Tree DNA and probably one of the first ones to start as well. Well it's January 2005. I wasn't one of the first but it does go way back and the project is one of the top 100 of the 8,000 I think it's surname projects that they have. That's fascinating. Maybe it's 8,000 surnames, I forget which. Well Paul is going to tell us all about Clona Burns so I can ask you to give you a give Paul a warm welcome. This lecture concerns just one portion of the project which I described yesterday. It's the largest portion of the burn, burn, burns is three different spellings B-U-R-N-S-B-Y-R-N-E-B-E-I-R-N-E that we have in the title of the project that we have many other similar phonetically similar surnames tested as well. I put a chart of the whole project on the back wall just not that I'm going to point to it but just so so you can see the great diversity of it. All that on the top all that purple that's the that's the Clona burn of Lentster and 94 of our members are in the core group of that clan. If we include the other Haplu groups that is the people who really were part of the clan but are not members of that core group who did not have the the the SNP indicator that designates them and I'll get into all this were included would probably be about 33% of our total product. Now oh first let me introduce Richard Richard just raise your hand please. He's co-administrated the project and he lives in Wexford and he joined us last year as well he's been in the project for some time joined us as co-administrator and it's a great help to us because he's here in Ireland when I'm back at States of course and our other co-administrator lives in United States too but Richard keeps his supply of test kits handy if there anyone in the room who's a burner or similarity and wants to test YDNA see him please. Now we are a YDNA project only as I said and though I get frequent requests to join the project from people who have a burn in the maternal ancestry we can't really help them just because we don't test and the only advantage to joining the project is to have your your marker values yes to our values added and analyzed by us and added to that that big chart that we have. I have to explain where the clan came from or at least where we think it came from before I get into the DNA. There's many myths about the origin of the clan of Bernd or better to say the the I've also the Lagan and I've been corrected recently the Lane line lion I guess it is which the clan was a part. Legend associated the name Lester with the Lane Peninsula in Wales and while others let's see how this thing works there we go others have opined that the Lester tribes including the Oberns probably came from the Dumnoni who started out in our Morica back at BC times moved on to Devon now let's see yeah here we go there and then spread up the Irish Sea some settling here this is Potomies map of about 250 AD I think it is doesn't yeah right here Dumnoni and while others move further up and settled in Scotland and we do have some genetic association with some of the Scottish tribes especially the a group called the Bades but anyway just recently there's been in fact the past couple of weeks one of the experts has come up with a new SNP that connects the clano burns identifier which is called Z 255 with another group called Z 253 which is pretty much it's pretty certain that that's a Irish origin so now that throws that whole thing into question and we're going to take a couple of months before we really know if that holds fast then it will show that the Lester groups through the Irish origin and not of Cornwall I guess you say or French but anyway about 400 AD I think this is fairly well verified by history a two tribes moved up from Osiris into Lester one was called the E-Chensileg and the other was called the E-Dunlange the E-Chensileg state in the southern part there it is there southern part of Lester and eventually became the McMurray's the Cavanaugh's Kinshala's and I don't know what a certain other tribes as well well the Dunlange went for the north and I'm not sure it's even named on the map and then event later on about 700 AD split into the E-Wurredegg the E-Fuelan and the tribe over here the Dunjata there it is we're only concerned or I'm only concerned with the E-Fuelan which is the parrot group of the clan of Urn it was based around Nace in North Lester while the E-Murredegg was a little further south and that eventually became the O-Tools the the E-Fuelan provided a great many kings of Lester in the early days as well as you know tribal kings and was quite powerful in Lester politics up until the time of the battle of Clontar when it was pretty much decimated by Brian Baru and his forces now it was the it was the E-Fuelan that really led the opposition to Brian at that battle not the not the Vikings is a legend would have it but anyway so many of them were killed at the power then shifted to the E-Chinshala in the in the south and with Dermot McMurray and you know that story I'm sure the E-Fuelan lands were taken over by the Normans that Dermot brought in about the year 1177 1178 and many history say that the Normans force the E-Fuelan up into the Wyclows but the truth is the research now has it that E-Fuelan up into this area that the E-Fuelan that a faction of the E-Fuelan known as E-Brand after a king of I think the king of Lester as well named Bran lost out in an internal political struggle in the E-Fuelan and was forced up about 1052 thereabouts to settle around Ocriss I'm not sure they've done the map probably not Ocriss Ocrim and Shalala in the south of the Wyclow and that's where the clan of Byrne really began this is a map to one of the members drew up Vel Byrne who was at one time the chief of the E-Chinshala clan and the clan is a grew it was formed about 1200 AD the clan as it grew divided into a junior branch and a senior branch senior branch is called the Croque Brana and the junior branch was at the part of my pronunciation of Irish terms but the reason it was kind of a late form clan about 1200 but it survived long after many of the other most of the other clans were destroyed or subdued as a better word to say by the by the Normans because of its isolation in the Wyclow mountains and the difficulty of the the Anglo-Norman forces getting up there to put it down to conquer it this for example let some of these slides I showed yesterday if those of you who are were here then the battle of Glen with the Lord 1580 is quite famous when they say about 800 Anglo invaders were were killed by the by the Lentzter forces up in the hills now before passing on to the DNA aspects of the of the clan I want to point out a couple of my major sources for what I know about it this is a book by a man named Emmett O'Burn who is quite an authority on the clan has written this book and written many essays as well on war politics in the Irish of Lentzter 1156 1606 he's the current elected head of the the clan and also a series of books there's my name on the cover but really it's by Daniel Byrne Rothwell it's it's there's been three volumes published and two more volumes are going to come out it's it's quite a the last word and what we know about that particular clan I'm not out the clan incidentally I'm Northwest Irish Richard here however is now the my association with the clan though began with my great grandfather who wrote a memoir about the year 1900 tracing himself back five or six generations he lives in County Sligo but he said that we descended from the clan O'Burn of Lentzter through a Jacobite cavalry officer named Patrick O'Burn who fled from Wicklow well actually fled from the Battle of Lactrum in Galway in 1691 from north to Sligo and settled there well as I spent about 20 years 25 years trying to verify that and I couldn't and eventually when I have myself DNA tested I discovered I don't know where he got the information because it wasn't true at all I did early on when I had myself tested in January 2005 I I tested a Valburn who as I said with the time was elected chief of the clan and he was probably the first member which in the year 2005 by the end of the year we had just nine members of this clan O'Burn tested and they'll I found I found it of the nine that seven of them had surprisingly close DNA so I thought right over that that early that we might have a clan profile and it's to my surprise is later on it held true and as more people joined us by the end we had ten members at the end of the first year and the project itself grew to about a hundred members at the end of the second year and right now we have about 375 but if I said only about 95 are this clan O'Burn the burn model that we first tested and which proved reliable was later adopted as the Lenshter model because it seemed to apply to other Lenshter surnames as well and today they call the Irish sea model because I some association with the debate ease and other surnames across the across the Irish sea in the other side I showed this again yesterday the see this this is the burns it's not too much interest to the clan O'Burn because you see very few bird be you are in us in this area which is the the be wire in the other hand that this obviously very much concentrated in in Lenshter there are some some other off the supposed offshoots they thought they were offshoots which I'll mention a little bit later that turned out not to be a Donnie Gall group a monahan group wealth group and I thought well anyway the burns where I come from right up in there we the story was that we were from the from the the way close but we are over the burns but obviously we weren't and the brains who are a small part of our project but we do have some brains who seem to tie in to the clan O'Burn and they are in this area down here I don't have any brains up in here and I don't know what they are we have a group of brains over here and Kerry but they are of a different DNA entirely we're talking about SNPs SNPs and STRs I'm trying to make this as non-technical as possible but this is a chart of the human race by SNPs SNPs occur much more rarely and it's not mutation than an STR mutation so it's much much better for for tracing answers deep ancestry now the a I think more as you mentioned a figure the other day I've been carrying 125,000 years back to the origin of half the group a I may be wrong on that but anyway as the as time went on down the thousands down the Millennium's the the step map kept enlarging and large and large and large and two he got down to R1B at about 80% of Irish or R1B and the clan O'Burn being one of them this map just shows the portion of R1B that is L21 there's other portions and this map has actually changed in the last couple of weeks the whole field is advancing so fast but it's just to show the there's about 200 major subclades under L21 as I said 80% of Irish or L21 the only portion we're really concerned with in this lecture is right here and the clan O'Burn is right right there on this this portion of the chart it doesn't mean it's a position on the chart that it's the most the lowest or the most recent is just one of many actually goes back pretty far up it should be up here for this sort of arranged by by age now this is the way I chart the the marker values when a test comes back in there is an L21 model up here in the gray and if this is a largest portion of the clan O'Burn and if they all were had no mutations at all this would all be a sea of purple just just purple but different colors show the markers that have mutated and as you can see there are certain ones that are common over here over here to to the clan O'Burn and what if we get a new result and showing four or five or six of these the same mutations the ones that we consider part of this when we placed in the model for the for the clan then we know we placed the person properly early on I start using the software to help out here and it so became apparent this is the type of software called fluxes that I used to use years ago that I could identify some sub branches of the clan O'Burn by their position on this particular type of software this here's one here here's one here but that the there was a big core big main group and that seemed to be everyone seemed to be very close in genetically and that became the eventually the core group of the of the project of the plan now here's here's another phonetic chart I found this much more useful in times by a man named Howard retired astronomer and you can actually in this one without my interpreting you can see the the way the program identifies families and going around there's one right there here's one down here and so on so forth this just shows the portion of that previous chart were under Z255 which is the kind of the identifying step was the identifying step and in time of course we discovered branches of it the clan O'Burn and the most of all of the 95 that I mentioned 94 members are in this particular one right here and lastly this chart by Alex Williamson is based mostly on big why testing and full genome testing and we were fortunate enough to get I think it's six it is at seven one two three four I think six members of the clan O'Burn to take the test and this shows all the various mutations that they have down here is a burn burn burn burn when now there's a group of wins in South Lancaster I'm sure that's where he comes in and burn and then another one over here another burn doesn't seem to tie in as closely as these do now these these are where they all come together these six are under Z16950 that's the name of SNP and four of them are under SNP here that doesn't have a name because they cannot individually test it it's too flaky and I'm hoping they'll that they'll be rectified because it seems to be close to RIN 300 years later perhaps and so on back to Z255 which is way up there now they've been able to put an age to well they're figuring the way they do it is they figure there's an average 150 years between SNPs and using that let me go back here using that they count the number of SNPs up here to the common denominator the common SNP and from that these of these people were in the present of course taking an average birth year 1950 or so working backwards 150 percent they figure the age of that and the age of that and the age of Z255 itself as well this is showing Z255 3700 BC the main group of those four was at about 1100 BC AD and the same with these others as there's a little bit of difference but let's say they're both about 1100 and the age of the SNP they Z16950 that encompasses five of the six and actually more because I individually SNP tested three other project members so we have eight who tested that so we have a very good indicator in Z1916950 and then up above well the then that that odd one this this one over here who is Z255 but it's an older branch of the clan he comes in higher up about 300 years earlier I think it's right there yeah well 200 you two SNPs earlier well I took Bill Howard's chart which is STR based and divided it into major families and those red arrows show the six people who tested big why and these blue arrows show those three individuals that I tested with why why so just for the Z16950 and it all fit very nicely together and my family seemed fairly well identified by this and that one who tied in much earlier obviously here is not a family this line was way up this this is not quite doesn't seem to fit in that portion there this is a timescale going out here and the timescale the gold line is Z16950 and it seems to fit that this is that this is SNP based well this is STR based but it does fit in very nicely in time and the blue line which is that lower SNP that encompassed four of the families also fit in well with Bill Howard's predicted time to the near to the common ancestor of each of each group this thing doesn't want to turn off okay but that's the core group and that's they have a single primogenitor the 95 members of that core group but they're not they don't all of the clan will burn there were many others in the clan who tested did not test Z255 and some actually test haplogroups that go back thousands of years well some of them are Viking we have about 10 people in the project who whose ancestors lived along the coast perhaps and the mostly haplogroup by one and the ancestors probably settled their 800 AD 900 AD and of course they after a couple generations they didn't know that they were the center from Vikings and when the clan was formed in 1200 AD they were just swept up given the surname over and nobody knew until they tested recently in last October just a year ago we had a recruitment drive and in the Weclos is mostly Richard's work and my other co-administrator and they recruited 42 new members it's just to show you the diversity 32 turned out to be in the core group the haplogroup Z 255 but 10 10 had different haplogroups in time these are people with a surname burn who who live in Lenzter and who as far as they knew their ancestors that always lived there too but 10 of them is fully 20 one fourth had different haplogroups one is an N222 at Northwest Irish the F49 private is very close to 222 was just above it there from Wexford this is a Brian Baroo and he's the third one of the project and then an R1A which is mostly Eastern Europe and J2 which is Eastern Mediterranean or North Africa and then some unknowns for unknowns we don't know what their what their background is but it backs up that the clan was geographic and in nature and not not all primogenitor now again this is a slide I showed yesterday there's there's many groups in Ireland that think they descend from the clan Obern and DNA is showing that they certainly do not we that's my my family up there in Slago there was a group in Mayo that believes that the DNA shows us not from Lenzter and not the clan the Danygal big group of Danygal and then over here in Lout and Monaghan there are several groups that whose oral history is that they are where people sent up to AD O'Neill or the O'Connell and we're given land and return and settle down in those areas but as I said they are a different haplogroup entirely so that that story is no more accurate than is my family history I told this story yesterday but I'll tell it again briefly because these people are Z255 they are a member of the clan Obern of Lenzter that I was approached a while back by a man in New Zealand some years ago now named Valdez a Mexican name he's called Elbornis no I get concerned a man named Elbornis who was a local politician and ranch owner who surname was Burns he came from Minnesota but his father had migrated from from Waterford supposedly and he impregnated his servant girl who had a baby or that's what the man who approached me said he said his servant girl was his great-grandmother she had a boy baby boy baby boy baby so so Joe Joe Valdez was asking if DNA would help prove that this Burns had done that and I said we can certainly try we tested his DNA and he was a perfect match with a man from New Zealand whose ancestors had migrated from Kilkenny to New Zealand three generations early he was 67-67 match and the man in New Zealand who incidentally moved to Washington by then Washington DC had been in touch with a man who occupies Clara Castle or at least farms a land around Clara Castle in Kilkenny and thinking that they were related and he agreed to test to he's 67 6667 to the other two so obviously his theory was was correct and I think all three were happy with the story now not the joke and do much with the information I don't think he's interested in the law so he just wanted to know okay well that's just to summarize what we've learned I've learned a lot just preparing this lecture whether DNA has determined the clans origins not really and not yet but we are in the process and I think sooner than later we're going to be pinned down whether the clan does come from the do do know me whether it's of Irish origin or whether it came over from Wales or whatever and has DNA verified the the e-brain moved originator that is that they moved up from in a tribal dispute in 1052 to the southern Wicklows it's hard to say again there there are brains in the project one of whom is present in the room and it let's spend all we can say right now is that we haven't disproved that that that theory and thirdly is DA helping to separate the senior from the junior branch well probably not I think the two branches are more political than they are separated by by bloodlines they haven't had enough time really to develop separately and there's been probably a lot of intermarriage over the years since they they're not that far apart geographically and lastly is DNA of assistance and separating families and determining MRCA well that's what we're working on right now is trying to do just that it's divide the the clan will burn into family lineages by paper trail it all has to come back to paper trail tracing and I wish we had some better paper trails as some of our members think they can go back to the 1500s but but not everyone accepts that now Gerald Corcoran just last night was saying that what we need across the board and in why DNA is some some it's a very solid pedigrees going back thousands or more years if possible that we can then match the mutation rates and finally decide whether this 150 years is accurate or not I don't agree with the 150 years but I don't have any evidence yet if the mutation the average mutation was a hundred years apart then those dates that I put up there on that previous screen would change drastically and would be more in line with what we know about the the clan's history and what we we believe we know about the clan's history but you know until till more people test there's no way to really say I'm hoping that the Corcoran's and the other families maybe some Lentzter family can come up with a better pedigree that we can use as a gauge so thank you very much for listening thanks very much Paul anybody have any questions for Paul we generally use family tree DNA for these type of surname projects because it is the only one of the companies that has the infrastructure to support surname projects so family tree DNA would be the one to test with they are downstairs and you can get a DNA test today so one for your brother or one of the male members of the family or one for yourself as well and we have a question down here from Kathy a comment and a question the comment is that there's a lot of genealogical material in the book of Balmote and the book of Lechim and both of those are now up on the web and there are groups in which exist which are doing palaeographical transcriptions of these and it seems to me that that will be very useful for groups like yours to be in touch with them and ask them to actually transcribe some of the material I'm not saying that I don't believe in accurate ed degrees yeah that's a catch the other question is what do you mean by clan what's your what's your working definition of plan well I really don't have I it could be a sept a clan a shell that there's all kinds of terms and I as near as I can find out they're interchangeable I've asked people about that now I call the the old burn of Roscombe and I call them a sep because I read somewhere that that means a smaller unit than a clan that a clan is larger but if you've got a better definition of clan I'd love to have it well I don't but I agree with you that all these terms are used very loosely and it seems to me that if we're investigating with DNA you need to be have more use them more precisely than that historians have tended to do yeah I wish I could but I mean one of the big distinctions for example between Canada Scotland and Ireland is that a clan in Scotland can be everybody in a given area so when you did your math that's what I that's what I'm saying I think the clan will burn as geographic rather than Patrick Lenial that they don't all descend from the same man well most of them do but not all well you see when you look at Irish families you don't get a pattern where you have an entire valley an entire area of however many acres where everybody has the same surname it's not an Irish except in some places in Donegal yeah so an Irish I mean the word clan just means family or children but an Irish clan is not the same as a Scottish clan yeah so I think as you get more and more precise in terms of the DNA you're going to have to ask the historians be more and more precise in their usage of words like this because otherwise you're just it's just confusion yeah in this case the clan always had an elected leader as far as I know a chieftain so to speak a would you call it a shock and I guess I would define clan there's other groups known as the shill which is I think mean seed of doesn't it and mentor which just means well again nobody has studied I mean if you look at sorry I don't want to hold here but the word winter it turns up in the 11th century and nobody has come up with what it first appears in genealogical material in the 11th century nobody has defined just means it means a modern Irish family nobody has defined what it means in the 11th century so there's there's there's a lot of work to be done on this I mean your map is a map of the early map that you had there is a map by Alfie Smith and F. J. Buren that's basically what it's based on yeah but that's what they're doing is they're taking 12th century genealogies and the records of Angkor-Norman settlement and they're following 12th pedigrees written down in the 12th century which say father to son to son to son inheritance going back at a guess so when you say it's historically proven or historically agreed to AD 400 that's reconstruction by modern scholars from a 12th century genealogy there's no 4th century source that's based on yeah so this is what I was trying to say yesterday the history side of this is much weaker than some of the arguments that are being presented here would suggest prior to the Norman arrival whether or not lots of places where the land was controlled by Chieftains who had the same surname and people adopted the same surname that had the same land we can trace families we cannot trace the lands that families owned in any detail apart from saying they're west of the Shannon they're east of the Shannon they're north they're south but when you see a map that map is based on taking the names of people and assuming that asking you about that you said what's the definition of a plan yeah it says it's a place where the usage of the land was controlled by people that adopted the same surname but you need to know what the land is then and I'm telling you don't count the names probably speak to that no they can't okay we have references placenames in material from 650 on and some of those placenames are replicated in modern town land names some but we've no death we've no at the moment we've no dating criteria for all Irish places we don't there's a theory that most of them were invented by 1200 but it's only a theory and when you look at kingdom boundaries the kingdom boundaries a lot of them are recorded either in Anglin Norman documentation associate with the names of families or it's recorded in things like Keating where they just say from the river Shannon kind of froze up on me it's very big okay and there's lots of other family's interests first it's not it's simply all it's saying is that the control the family leader but it's not saying there wasn't other population whose mother from other families living in that area related question because we're seeing in your study poll that there are a lot of burns who don't share the same haplotype haplogroup is that correct yeah as the core group now a lot of this might be due to NPE's non-paternity events out of wedlock and illegitimate birds for example but the other one is secret adoptions and of course that comes back to the ancient Irish fostering custom but so this is a kind of a general question to the audience to what extent do we think that fostering into the core group was responsible for the differences in the haplogroup assignments we see to the members of the court plan of burn I don't know I thought about that Mars but fostering was strictly the upper classes wasn't it and you think they would know who the child is to be returned to the child was was was lent lent or given to to some other tribe or some other family to raise of course to educate and so on but then they always go back then to the to the to the their parents eventually the parents tribe anyway they should do but of course if they were men being fostered they go back at 17 so they could have less traces of their passing in the foster family well that's true yeah well that's that's that's another very good point because of an NPE if we want to call it that occurred 2,000 years ago then that particular snip has been passed down through all the subsequent general male male descendants of that that man and if his name was anywhere along the line if he was living in the clan area that was the area that was dominated by the clan then his name became usually will burn or a tool or whatever the chaston's name was with with no memory whatever I mean who knew about such things back then I think the the key point for me would be exactly the same as the previous one raised is what is this definition of a clan in genetic terms I think you can make it rigorous by saying what you did and defining it as a geographic entity the problem then becomes that the phrase membership of a clan becomes much more fuzzy because you can bet your bottom dollar there's almost no one alive today who is a hundred percent descended from that geographic region especially not people from other countries and other parts of Ireland yeah because everybody migrates and everybody's gonna be a huge mix of everything else so then the problem is what where do you draw your threshold arbitrary threshold and say above this percent of admins reports and we're gonna call you a member and if you're below you're not a member anymore so I think it's this word membership that is yeah it's what we've called science of false dichotomy the thing is they wouldn't know they wouldn't know that they came from different lines I think they were the same as a neighbor or the guy in the next valley and so all what the name oh burn you know yeah all descended from a single primogenitor but and what surprises me is there's so many 95 our do have that single primogenitor right yes I mean that's amazing although you do on the other hand you have these people who have wine you need to yeah over the world who still call themselves members so that's as well I mean there's there's probably a way of making it at least a useful thing to say but there needs to be some kind of threshold defined and as soon as you as soon as we get more sequences from geographically targeted areas yeah you'll be able to say things like this based on admins proportions we have a question down here from John and from Jared we'll take Jared first and then we'll go to John okay I tend to agree with captain's comment as the historians and the geneticists should work closer together reminds me of the old Oklahoma musical the Kalman and the farmer should be friends right and you know we have a very very big corpus of ancient genealogy in Ireland we've lost many of our mountain records of course but we have this very large corpus of ancient genealogy you know it looks like the great book of genealogy from the pervish there are about 20 other excellent sources all of the animals in each valley and all certain zones for the challenge would be to get them digitized first online indexed so that then I would return the question and say how can we effectively do this because you know we are our phylogenetic tree is expanding at an exponential rate we were in the middle of a SNP tsunami and all we need now is the ancient records to be able to link to. Would it be helpful you know for all people to do the conference next year to talk specifically about the texts and the evidence of the texts so it's not just me pontificating in the corner but that there is actually a spread of people yeah would that be helpful. Absolutely. That's a great suggestion Hathi thanks and a great point Jared as well it's great to see that some of the ancient genealogy's are being digitized and are being available online but for everybody with a certain study we need as many as possible so we can really do some proper analysis. Comments from John. So we'll be a comment first of all apologies for not being here earlier I had to feed myself. First point in relation to adoptions there were adoptions in formal adoptions even in modern times early modern times if a couple had no children of their own and their brother or sister had a large brood they often gave them their children. Sure yeah. So you had this and then they would adopt they would take on the family name, people take the old family name for convenience. The second point is the surnames really didn't exist much earlier than the normals right here. No. People were called you know John the son of red the son of so old. That's right. And then they were also called by their occupation. My name is an occupation. Swordsman. So there were many swordsmen the sons of whoever was a broken king. So the definition of a family. Families didn't need surnames because there were so few of them anyway. They stayed in the same place and in my opinion I don't think it matters about the level of precision that you give to a land that lived in a particular patch which was very slightly in time. It would be nice if you could define this otherwise but I would expect that because of the absence of surnames and the patch would be a bit different. It doesn't really matter very much. Most people know what you mean when you say it's land in grey or wherever you choose are on the mountains and they had to move around. That's all I want to say. That's what I said before is that I'm really surprised if our main indicator was 550 AD for the clan. That's where the 94 95 probably come together most of them anyway that that they they all are the same. They are the Z 16950. Because you think it would be so many adoptions and other illegitimacies and what have you down to 15 letters of 1500 years. That's a very lot to be said for the women of Lentz. Thank you so much for an excellent presentation. I think you've thrown a lot of light on what it means to try and reconstruct a clan. I think we've had an excellent discussion with the audience as well. We've learned a lot. We've actually made a step forward now as well towards digitization of all the ancient animals and I think that's a really great step forward. So can I ask you to all thank Paul Burns for his excellent presentation. Thank you. You want to take this off. You're muted now. We're safe. We're in the clear. Well done.


long time no film. I haven't sat in film in over a month. Hey, what's up, guys? Matt's my channel, I've been doing video. Hi, hello, I'm Lydia, and as you can see, I'm very much so live. Right, this video, I'm just gonna put it to explain before the video actually starts, and then I'll be doing you afterwards. This video I filmed while I was in hospital last week. I went in training because my blood sugars were high. I ended up getting remitted because they thought I had a kidney stone and because my blood sugar was high. So, uh, all the clips. So, I got admitted off, and today I want to talk a bit about what happened and why I was there. So, I got admitted for what, two main reasons. The first one being my blood sugar was dangerously high. It was 37, 37mol, which is high. It's very high. It's dangerously high. They suspected that I was in DKA, and if you don't know what that is, I will make sure it is on screen right now for you. And the other reason was because they thought I had a kidney stone or gold stone. So, I proceeded because I've seen a few comments along the internet that I'm still drinking high sugar, everything. I'm eating graph. Tell it to my water bottle. Sometimes I've dropped it and it exploded everywhere in supermarkets. It's unbelievable. Um, made my trusty water. I went to ANA because I was feeling unwell. When my blood sugar was high, I physically had symptoms, and when it's low, I have a symptom. Yesterday my sugar was low and it wasn't great. Anyway, I'll tell it. So, my blood sugar was high, which is why I went to ANA. I was feeling unwell. I tend to get unwell when I'm on these kind of... I need to hold it. No, I won't. Yeah. Oh, it's still there, so I can hold it. That's why it's got my head weighted blanket on there, is it? Okay. High is, um, I feel sick. I feel like the room's spinning. I feel like I'm gonna collapse. I just feel awful. Like, I feel physically unwell. When I got told you could be in DKA, I was like, because it's serious. Like, being right about it, a lot has changed. Um, it hasn't been an easy, I'm not gonna say that I fully accept the diagnosis because I feel like that makes it real, and I don't want it to be. And I don't know how in times of pride. So, the reason I got admitted was to bring my sugars down and to investigate whether or not I had a kidney thing, gallbladder stone, or any of that. Apparently it's all fine. So, we're going with that. But they also kept an eye on me. They monitored my abs. They did abs. They brought my sugar down by fluid medication, and that was that. It was a one night. It wasn't even 24 hours. It was overnight, and then in the morning I spoke to the diabetic team and they had the scan done. So yeah, I'm back on camera. Hello. Hi. I am absolutely mess. Welcome. So, this whole experience was absolutely terrifying. I can't explain how terrifying. It literally, I don't know, just can't be told. Being DKA, you could go into a coma. Like, that's not easy to hate at all. You guys are probably seeing the other videos I've done about being diabetic and this whole, whole journey. It did hit me out of nowhere. And I also want to thank anyone who has helped me out the last few weeks because at the minute I don't have any money.  I don't have loads of money. So anyone who's helped me with my Amazon wish list, which by the way, if you are interested, link's down below. Honestly, getting the things made me smile because on my Help Me Out list it is things that literally help out with everything I go through. And I have all these diabetic ones on there. And I want to thank people for helping me out when I've been at my lowest, honestly. So yes, if you are new, please subscribe. And if you want to help out the channel or support the channel, there is my Amazon wish list linked down below and Patreon and my PayPal, anything helped at this point. So yeah, that's fun. I'll see you guys here. I'll make a video later, so you may see me like this again. Bye.


Stand out, performance, stand out, performance. Jake, I got a guy. Yes. I got a guy. It's a Cinderella story. It's not Cinderella story, but it's a cool story. It's Cookie Carrasco. Yes. There's a lot of good pitching pitching performances this weekend. There was a lot to choose from. So I had to try and find a storyline. I liked it a little different. Carrasco has been dominant. I mean, this start, he struck out 11 guys in seven innings, and he only allowed one hit. He's going against the Tigers, so it's a younger team. But he had five one, two, three innings. He struck out 11. He's got a one, four, one ERA in their last five starts. I don't think people think of him as those numbers. You know, like I don't think anyone thinks of him as bad or subpar or even just slightly average. But that's really good. And it's part of a pitching threesome with Plisac and Bieber. That is scary. So he's my standout today. What he's been doing is awesome. You know, like I wanted to do HAP because I feel like people definitely don't think of HAP as being good. And HAP's last five games have been good, but they haven't been that good. Cookie's got him beat. Yeah. And, you know, they definitely, that's really needed to turn it around the Indians. They got a lot of good pitching and he's part of that goodness. So I want to give him some love, give the Indians pitching some more love even though they get so much already. That's a good outing from Cookie. Koresko had a cup. He had one or two crazy years there that were piggyback, but everything around it was a little inconsistent. And then I mean, he had cancer and now he's back and he looks really good again. And yeah, I mean, you'd assume he's there. Game three guy and a guy you can trust, plus they'll have other arms to go with him, but Koresko's hot.  He's a guy that has a couple legit years out there. And yeah, I mean, the seven seed that nobody wants to see your Cleveland Indians, Jose Ramirez getting hot. But yeah, I mean, it's all about that pitching and those guys can take a series from you and you don't have an option. Yeah. Yeah. So who's your standout? My standout performance, Jim, is a guy who I think might have gotten one this year early on. It's Kyle Hendricks, Jim. He goes eight innings, 10 Ks shut out against the Minnesota Twins who have been crushing it and bopping around in games that mattered. Again, the Twins are fighting with the Yankees for that. The Cubs are fighting for the second seed in the NL. Hendricks comes out eight shotty, Jim. His season on the year, his ERA is down to 293. His career ERA is 313. He leads the NL in innings pitch this year with 73.2, which with that Cubs bullpen is kind of huge. He's got the lowest walks per nine in Major League Baseball. ERA plus is 151. And the guy needs to get more love. You know, I've been tasting Darvish all year. His Velo is up. He looks disgusting. Kyle Hendricks, if the Cubs do stuff this year, he's going to be a massive part of the story. Cause guess what, Jim? He also has a 298 career playoff ERA in 51.1 innings.  He doesn't get discussed enough because the stuff isn't necessarily pitch ninja all the time, but Hendricks is awesome. He shuts down one of the best lineups, heading into the postseason. He's had an amazing year. Yeah. I like him, the professor. Yeah. Big time. That's his first game with double digits strikeouts this season. Get it going. And it's his third time completing the eighth inning. I mean, his last three starts, eight innings pitched, one earn run, 7.2 and one out away from completing the eighth inning, two earn runs, eight innings pitch, zero earn runs.  The width is under zero. I mean, one of the best pitchers in baseball. Yeah. Seven and four are the Cubs in his starts. What's that? Like, give me eight and three. I know, you'd expect that to be better, right? A little bit. Yeah, who cares? Cubs fans. Cubs fans. Good standout, Jake. Thank you. Very well done.


Hi everyone, Sean with jaspyscasebrakes.com here doing 2020 prison football 20 box blaster break pick your team number six where we're randomizing the chargers to one person in the break. How this works have two or more teams to win the chargers. No vet commonship. How to be entering the chargers give away two or more teams this break get entered to win no max entries two teams one entry four teams two entries six teams three entries etc. If you only buy one team you will not be entered there you go. So here is our list of customers and their respective teams from Matt Arnold and the Cardinals down to Patrick Katzik and the Washington football team last spot mojo Robert Packer there with the Jets thank you for getting us into this break we're going to copy this customer list over to a separate spreadsheet to see who wins the copy not cut who wins the chargers and we're going to alphabetize that so Hank here with two teams gets an entry Jose gets one Karen with one team thank you very much but no entry here mark with one team thank you very much but no entry here Matt gets an entry Matt L gets an entry Michael Patrick Robert with eight gets four entries Robert thank you very much with last spot mojo no entry for the chargers Roy gets one Scott Sean and Tana there you go so Hank down to Tana we got fourteen entries on the randomizer dice roll name on top after a two and a five seven times seventh and final time Matt Lieber on top gets with the chargers for the full case twenty box break seven times on the randomizer seven times on the dice Matt on top so let's throw him right here the chargers and print congrats Matt and here is our case pop this open 20 boxes for us let's go through opening a mass opening and then we'll go through and we're looking for the laser prisms in these for the blaster exclusives plus obviously all the silvers he's some rookies mims and purine should be pretty decent I mean especially because you got to think jets are jets it looks like you're going for quarterback right who I mean the draft is nine days away eight days away from now who are the jets rumored to be going after is it Justin Fields what quarterback are they taking so I think there'll be a lot I mean you gotta think these teams that get young quarterbacks a lot of attention goes to their their players you know what I mean they get like a whole new rejuvenated like lease on life and stuff like that we're saying Zach Taylor oh well yeah Frank or is awesome so Zach Taylor or what is it is it Zach Wilson or Zach Taylor so they're going for Zach Wilson by you what pick are they overall second overall pick seems high for him hey if you if you think he's your quarterback of the future do it right it's clearly Trevor Lawrence number one I guess there's a lot of potential between number two through two through four on quarterbacks as far as who who to go with but well I'm hoping for I'm hoping yeah I saw his pro day footage that uh that throw we made I mean we've all seen the video of it probably too many times at this point of him rolling left throwing all the way to the right side of the field it's pretty incredible you see them Nick are any of these do you think any of these guys after Trevor Lawrence there's like must have picked two type guys you know what I mean or do you think that they like is there potential for these like these teams could have traded down like is there any other potential like players that are better you know overall that you know like must see talent type stuff or like Vanessa well she's supposed to be like a once in a generation type lineman right like isn't it draft draft based off of best available not based off of need yeah it does seem like a really nice class of receivers I mean I keep hearing Joe Burrow in the bangles that he keeps lobbying for Jamar Chase since that's his old teammate which how's he gonna throw even if he has a great receiver how's he gonna throw if he has no offense line still do any substantial line work in the offseason rubber I hadn't heard anything my chargers have been doing some work I'm happy with center right tackle now we need a left tackle I'd love to see so well drop but most likely not Slater if he can drop that'd be cool unlikely which would leave us with Derisaw unless Kyle Pitts somehow Riley reef is Broncos right I want to say remember correctly I think Riley reef has gone through some issues with the Broncos if that's who I'm thinking I don't know if that's the answer for them was Viking now bangles so I'm thinking somebody else I'm rooting for him uh I don't know Jonathan all depends on how busy we are it's been a little bit slow so far today but if we pick up and we keep going into the late night I'll stick I haven't heard about me covering for Joe tomorrow I don't believe I am but if I'm on tomorrow then that might you know temper me being on here till late late late tonight but if I'm not then I'll have all day tomorrow to rest relax recuperate before late night tomorrow night plenty of chances in that we just need to sell the rest of the plenty of chance that happens the night is young it's in final box see our the spoils of our work here is the final list for you guys Tom Brady for the Buccaneers Scott Blackwell Adrien Amos Packers Hank Radecki Levis Gushinald Jr. for the Jags and Robert Runkle Michael Warren for the Eagles Hank Radecki Kevin Byard for the Titans Robert Runkle T Higgins for the Bengals Sean Maddock Dan Marino for the Dolphins Matt Lieber to Michael Hastie for the 49ers Robert Runkle Yider Grossmatos for the Panthers Blake Jarwin for the Cowboys and Roy Di Pietro Marshawn Latimore for the Saints Matt Arnold Antonio Ghandi Golden for Washington and Patrick Katzi Jeff Okuda for the Lions Robert Runkle Sammy Watkins for the Chiefs Matt Lieber Chase Young Washington Patrick Katzi Nice Jalen Hertz Eagles Hank Radecki Sam Hubbard for the Bengals Sean Maddock Michael Ohumudia for the Broncos Robert Runkle Brandon Ayuk for the 49ers Robert Runkle and Khalil Mack for the Bears and Tana Zafino Jalen Ragoor Rookie Relic for the Eagles Hank Radecki Brian Burns for the Panthers Sean Maddock Donovan People Jones for the Browns Tana Zafino Bradley Anayi for the Cowboys Roy Di Pietro CJ Henderson for the Jaguars Robert Runkle Jalen Ragoor again for the Eagles Hank Radecki Tredavious White for the Bills Mark Miller Anthony McFarland for the Steelers Michael Fetrell and Montez Sweat Washington Patrick Katzi when you get your best watching in Dion Jones for the Falcons Jose Aragon Jason Huntley for the Lions Javon Kinlaw for the 49ers Robert Runkle John U. Smith for the Titans Robert Runkle Antonio Gibson for Washington Patrick Katzi Devon Bush for the Steelers Michael Fetrell Jason Huntley for the Lions and Robert Runkle Rayquan Davis for the Dolphins Dallas Goddard for the Eagles and Hank Radecki Tyler Higby for the Rams Jose Aragon Daryl Taylor for the Seahawks Jordan Brooks for the Seahawks Patrick Katzi Dwayne Haskins for Washington Patrick Katzi Marlin Davidson for the Falcons Joe Mixon for the Bangles Sean Battick AJ Terrell for the Falcons Jose Aragon Cole Comet for the Bears Tana Savino and Melvin Gordon for the Broncos and Robert Runkle Barry Sanders for the Lions Robert Runkle AJ Terrell for the Falcons Albert Wackelbunem for the Broncos and Robert Runkle Tyreek Hill for the Chiefs Matt Lever Jalen Hurch for the Eagles again Hank sorry Hank Radecki Joann Jennings for the 49ers Ben Rothesberger for the Steelers Michael Fetrell Brian Edwards for the Raiders Robert Runkle Josiah DeGuara for the Packers and Derwyn James for the Chargers Matt Lever the spot he won for getting more than two at least two teams in the break Cameron Jordan for the Saints Matt Arnold CD Lamb for the Cowboys Roy D. Pietro the Michael Pirine for the Jets Robert Thacker last spot mojo Nick Chubb for the Browns Tana Savino Anthony Gordon for the Seahawks Darius Leonard for the Colts Roy D. Pietro Kyla Murray second year for the Cardinals Matt Arnold KJ Hamler for the Broncos Robert Runkle Xavier McKinney for the Giants and Akeem Hicks for the Bears Tana Savino Joe Burrow Relic for the Bengals Sean Mattick very nice Taysom Hill for the Saints Matt Arnold Anferney Jennings for the Patriots and nice Justin Jefferson for the Vikings Robert Runkle Jake Luton for the Jaguars Robert Runkle and Tua Emergent for the Dolphins Matt Lever Clyde Edwards Lair for the Chiefs Matt Lever Deontay Johnson for the Steelers Michael Fetrell James Morgan for the Jets last spot mojo Robert Thacker Antonio Gandy Golden for Washington Patrick Hetzeek and Joe Thysman for Washington and Patrick Hetzeek as well a current running back in the league has been popping into people's streams on personal breaks over on Instagram recently he somebody asked him in the chat who he was collecting obviously he said himself Justin Herbert he mentioned he also mentioned James Morgan which was I thought was very interesting that he was collecting James Morgan maybe he knows something we don't Kiwan Short for the Panthers Sean Mattick Jeremy Chin for the Panthers Nate Stanley for the Vikings Robert Runkle Harrison Smith Vikings Robert Runkle Justin Herbert for the Chargers Matt Lever spot he won just forgetting at least two teams in the break Kenny Stills for the Texans Robert Runkle Deandre Swift for the Lions Robert Runkle James Proche for the Ravens and Bryce Love for Washington and Patrick Hetzeek nice Herbie Darnell Savage Jr. with the Packers Hank Radecky Jake Fromm for the Bills Mark Miller Lynn Bowden Jr. for the Raiders Robert Runkle Greg Zurline for the Cowboys and Roy Di Pietro Kyle Dugger for the Patriots Tyler Boyd for the Bengals Sean Mattick Jacob Eason for the Colts Roy Di Pietro Joshua Kelly for the Chargers and Amari Cooper for the Cowboys and Roy Di Pietro he might have been Robert Woods for the Rams Jose Aragon Dadeus Moss for Washington Dadeus Moss for Washington again Patrick Hetzeek Kyle Van Noy for the Dolphins and Matt Lever Quez Watkins for the Eagles and Mike Kisicki for the Dolphins Matt Lever Quez Watkins for the Eagles Hank Radecky Jovan Kinlaw for the 49ers and Philip Lindsay for the Broncos and Robert Runkle Kenny Clark for the Packers Hank Radecky Jovan Kinlaw for the 49ers Marlon Davidson for the Falcons Jose Aragon Teddy Bridgewater for the Panthers Sean Mattick Jason Huntley for the Lions and J.J. Watt for the Texans Robert Runkle Cole Comet for the Bears Tana Cephino Antonio Gibson for Washington Patrick Hetzeek and Demarcus Lawrence for the Cowboys and Roy Di Pietro Chandler Jones for the Cardinals Matt Arnold Eno Benjamin for the Cardinals Julian Acoura for the Lions Robert Runkle Christian Kirk for the Cardinals Matt Arnold Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs Matt Lever Patrick Queen for the Ravens Michael Futrell David Johnson for the Texans Robert Runkle Donovan Peoples-Jones for the Browns Tana Cephino Neville Gallimore for the Cowboys and Brian Dawkins for the Eagles and Hank Radecky Alvin Kamara for the Saints Matt Arnold Lynn Bowden Jr. for the Raiders Nate Stanley for the Vikings Robert Runkle Levyon Bell for the Jets Robert Thacker Jacob Eason for the Colts Roy DiPietro Peyton Manning for the Colts and Roy DeAndre Swift for the Lions Robert Runkle Jordan Brooks for the Seahawks and Alan Robinson for the Bears Tana Cephino Jelani Tavae for the Lions Robert Runkle Jalen Hurts for the Eagles again Hank Radecky Jerry Judy for the Broncos Robert Runkle Jarvis Landry for the Browns Tana Cephino Brenda Nyuk for the 49ers Robert Runkle Teddy Bruski for the Patriots Karen Steele Ann Fernay Jenian for the Patriots Karen Steele Jake Fromm for the Bills and Mark Miller and Joey Bosa for the Chargers and Matt Lieber DeAndre Swift Rookie Relic for the Lions Robert Runkle Daniel Hunter for the Vikings Robert Runkle DeAndre Swift again for the Lions Robert Runkle Michael Warren for the Eagles Hank Radecky Josh Uche for the Patriots Karen Steele Albert Aquavutum for the Broncos Robert Runkle Kenny Moore for the Colts Roy D. Pietro to Michael Hasty for the 49ers Robert Runkle Ryan Edwards for the Raiders Robert Runkle and Saquon Barkley for the Giants and Scott Blackwell Aaron Donald for the Rams Jose Aragon Julian Blackman for the Colts Julian Acoura for the Lions Robert Runkle Troy Palamalu Steelers Michael Fittrell Zach Bonner for the Saints T. Y. Hilton for the Colts Roy D. Pietro Donovan Peoples-Jones for the Browns Tana Cefino Michael Warren for the Eagles and Landon Collins for Washington and Patrick Ketzy Grady Jarrett for the Falcons Jose Aragon Jordan Love for the Packers Henry Hank Radecky Joanne Jennings for the 49ers Robert Runkle Curtis Samuel for the Panthers Sean Maddock and Karrion Johnson Red Non-Numbered Retail Red Detroit Lions Robert Runkle Tyler Johnson for the Buccaneers Scott Blackwell Nikhil Harry for the Patriots Karen Steele Josiah Aguara for the Packers Hank Radecky Terrell Lewis for the Rams Jose Aragon and Miles Sanders for the Eagles Hank Radecky and last two boxes Jason Pierre Paul for the Buccaneers Scott Blackwell Kyle Duggar for the Patriots Clyde Edwards-Elaire for the Chiefs and Matt Lieber Melvin Ingram for the Chargers Matt Lieber Joshua Kelly for the Chargers Jordan Jenkins for the Jets and Robert Packer last spot Mojo Antonio Gandy-Golden for Washington Patrick Ketzy Chase Young for Washington Patrick Ketzy and AJ Brown for the Titans Robert Runkle and last box Jordan Love Rookie Relic for the Packers Hank Radecky Adam Thielen for the Vikings Robert Runkle KJ Hamler for the Broncos Robert Runkle Henry Ruggs for the Raiders and Robert Runkle Gabriel Davis-Rookie Silver for the Bills Mark Miller Henry Ruggs for the Raiders Robert Runkle Ken Anderson for the Bengals Sean Matic Willie Gay Jr. for the Chiefs Matt Lieber Willie Gay Jr. for the Chiefs and Sean Lee for the Cowboys to finish it off and Roy Pietro there you go guys that was the break that was 2020 Prism football 20 box blaster break pick your team number six from jaspyscasebreaks.com I'm Sean jaspyscasebreaks.com thanks for hanging out we'll see you next time


Over the past decade, NASA's National Space Technology Laboratories, NSTL, in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi, has been doing plant-related research in purification of air and water for when people begin living in space. Many communities, including the city of San Diego and Disney's Epcot Center in Florida, have adopted research done at NSTL by using a plant called the water hyacinth in their treatment of raw sewage. This common weed, the water hyacinth, literally thrives on sewage. The plant has a complex roof mass, which acts like a filter. Bacteria and microorganisms that grow on the root system break down and digest the sewage, allowing the hyacinth to absorb nutrients, toxic chemicals, and even radioactive waste. The effluent that comes out of this system, which has treated sewage for a couple of days, is of such high quality that it needs only to go through a few final steps before it is drinkable. The hyacinth dislikes cold water, but when in a warm climate, it grows at such a furious rate that it needs to be harvested on a regular basis. Once harvested, the plant matter can be dried for animal feed or shredded and loaded into a digester for further processing into biogas, which can be used as a fuel. The city of San Diego's Water Utilities Department has adopted the use of water hyacinth in a large-scale project to reclaim raw sewage and process it into drinking water. Another plant-related water filtration system recently developed through research at NSTL is called a rock reed filter. In this case, polluted Mississippi River water passes through granular rock containing reed plants. The roots from the reeds and the high surface area of the rocks support bacteria that break down pollutants and purify water. Since reeds can tolerate cold weather, this system works very well in regions where water hyacinths can't grow. The latest research at NSTL has been with a spider plant system that purifies air along the same lines as the rock reed filter does for water. Air is purified as it's gone through the spider plant, interacting with activated carbon and the plant's root system. Dr. Bill Wilburton of NSTL. Now this is an exciting new technology that's emerging that we're looking at now. It not only allow fewer plants inside a home to purify that air, but it has tremendous applications for our future space station as we look towards developing a space station or a moon base or others. So these technologies evolving from aquatic plants to common house plants, we're beginning to put this technology together for practical, simplified everyday use with the ultimate long range goal of perfecting a closed ecological life support system for a space application, be it a moon base or a space station.


What's the word y'all welcome back to call gang Kenny for real whatever you want to call it Well, we just sit here. We talk about hoops late night episodes, man Thank you to everybody that's watching turns out that about 70% think about this 70% of the people that watch these videos regularly Aren't even subscribed so make sure you are subscribed leave a like on the video and let's get right into it today I'm gonna have to admit a lot of my my faults as an NBA fan were on display today because My biggest thing is that y'all know I am a Chicago Bulls fan first So whenever the Bulls are playing they have 90% of my attention and today's one of those days where they decided to start five games at the same time So the Bulls starting off they got my eye and then the other four games were on the other monitor And I'm looking over checking scores trying to watch as much as I can all that being said I didn't watch every single possession of every single game I don't know why you didn't expect me to even be like that The Bulls got a bulk of my attention and and the Bulls are in the wind column y'all we did it We're not the worst team in basketball We'll see we'll see we'll see um so the last game of the day just wrapped up and people said on Twitter That this is a bad day for basketball a lot of blowouts I think you know I think I took away a lot of different things from today's Slater games and the one I want to focus on up top and The top of the show is with the Toronto Raptors, man I don't know what the title of this video specifically says but has something to do with the Toronto Raptors Are scaring me because through the first couple games of the season they look bad and not like all we'll put it together We're just missing shots bad, but like functionally They don't look good anymore and part of me is trying to figure out like I watched this game Like I mentioned the Bulls were started before so I we went back to rewatch portions of this game And I was trying to put together why this team doesn't look good First of all they were going to get stolen bead and we know that they lost their two best defensive players or Defensive's bigs and and Marcus Saul and Sergio Bakker. They're no longer here. So of course Joel and B was going to eat But it was more like The players that are on their team Pascal Siakum does not look good He doesn't look pre-bubble Pascal Siakum pre all-star break of the 2019 season Pascal Siakum And then the first couple games of the season they pay for it and lead obviously and well They're trying to give him a role that wasn't really his role the first couple years of him being the good friend We know so that the idea behind paying for every and lead is like okay Cal Larry's what 34 years old at this point eventually He's gonna be you know teetering at that point where he's no longer starter quality player It's just a age is something that hits everybody and people aids out of the league So we're gonna pay for evan Vlee and we're gonna slowly work them into this role where he's going to be our next Cal Larry and the problem with that is They aren't the same player the reason why they look so good when they're playing together Is because Fred Van Blee at the end of the day is more of an off-ball player than the pro ball handler He's he's not a playmaker like Cal Larry is so when we have those minutes were Cal Larry's on the bench and is Fred Van Blee trying to control offense It doesn't look good and and what surprises me is that like I Watched a lot of their preseason games because they have Flynn they have Malachi Flint And this is gonna be a crazy reason but Malachi Flynn is a dog in 2k So I don't watch college balls So my first introduction to these guys is first the NBA draft and usually when it comes to summer league But we didn't have any summer league so I was watching preseason and Malachi Flint looked like a guy that you can say hey He's good enough to be a backup point guard at this point At least that's what it looked like in the preseason to me But instead they're trying to build Fred Van Blee which makes sense But it just doesn't really work out and not to mention that when Cal Larry's not on the floor There's the other four players and this new guard whoever is gonna be none of them at ballhand in the billy Pascal Siakam as good as he can be we know he has only your right hand Ozyana nobby as good as he is in this catch a shoe. He had a beautiful game today He can't put the ball on the floor like you would want some of your other players So it's really like Cal Larry as our ballhandler as our playmaker and nothing else And that's one of the reason why they are struggling and I talked about this on our podcast is that They didn't do a great job in replacing the big-state loss like the first couple games of the season Like he might be that guy then today he went against up a real like center center and Joel and be one of the best in this class And well, he struggled and Alex Lynn struggled and and Aaron Bain struggled So that's that's my takeaway from the Toronto Raptors. I don't know what the remedy is There was a portion in this game where there was like maybe four to five minutes where the Toronto Raptors did not score a bucket And typically what we see from coaches when their team goes maybe two to three minutes without scoring There's usually a timeout, but Nick nurses like no, I'm gonna let my guys ride with this not being able to score thing for five minutes And that's not normal Nick nurse things is it like I was giving the nurse a lot of praise Don't tell me we have to take all that success away from you Nick. Come on, bro So I'm not saying this is gonna last for the 72 game season But they need to figure it out man They need to figure it out because as of right now all of those teams that we saw as far as like Bonafide playoff teams They're the one that looks the worst out of the bunch Which is which is saying a lot because I just always see that organization as consistency consistency Consistency and they have not been that through the first three games of the season on the other side of things Luckily Joel and beat is there because without Joel and beat the 76ers are not good Tobias Harris had his best game of the season, which is good There's portions of the game where you want him to take a shot But I say you put the ball on the floor But I'm not gonna complain with the production that they got from Tobias Harris if they had a Tobias Harris game like this More regularly than we might be having a conversation. I hope good the Philadelphia 76ers can really be I don't have the whole Ben Simmons conversation four games to the season. They are three and one So we're gonna leave it at that congratulations to the Philadelphia 76ers, but what I can say is That Ben Simmons is making it look like A James Harden trade might end up being inevitable. That's all I'm gonna say I'm gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave it at that move on to the next game Which is the Warriors getting their second win two game win streak Y'all remember people on Twitter was saying that Steph Curry wasn't good anymore Well, you want to get two bad teams and he's getting his mojo back and it's good Kelly Ubre finally hit a jump shot Wiggins what he put up like 19 points in the fourth quarter Those are the type of things you're gonna need and Draymond Green was questionable, but ended up sitting out I'm still waiting for the Draymond Green minutes because I do think he can fix some of the things He ain't gonna fix everything. There's a lot of things wrong this thing He ain't gonna fix everything but he does fix the the secondary ballhandle Secondary playmaker thing that a lot of the teams that are struggling struggle with so set out to them and when it comes to the pistons I mean the pistons are gonna do that They're gonna lose a lot of games this season I think every one of their games They've been competitive and been into it and I think 14 that's rebuilding even though they did some crazy-ass things this off-season That's all you clearly want. I'm still so confused about Christian Wood doesn't play for them anymore Maybe somebody in a comment section explain it to me because why do we offer Jeremy Grant? 20 and Mason Plumlee 9 But we couldn't just give Christian will whatever the hell he wanted because Christian Wood is better than Whatever whatever um the Celtic got a win today You know that little revenge game from the Pacers and I was I was very Intrigued in this game because the Pacers had moments in it with a We're running away with this seems like but I hate when people tell me on Twitter Hey, can you talk about this, but I have no choice if I'm gonna talk about this game I have to talk about the rookie man What's his name Peyton Peyton Pritchard came in and was super super important They needed that type of play and I don't know what he finished with 10 points It felt like more than that his his point his points were timely his his assists were timely And he was the reason to put them over to hump for this win I was talking not trash, but I was more concerned about the way Jason Taylor was playing for the first couple games of the season I think I mentioned how like he's taking these tough ass shots and then when he's making them They's cool, but when he's not he's it sucks and And I was talking about how he hasn't been to the free throw line much throughout the first three games This game he got sort of decent amount I'm not gonna add his last like five or six free throws because they were like late game We're gonna foul, you know situations. It wasn't him get into the basket Nonetheless, there's a good bounce back game for them in a game that looked like they were going to lose So I still like the way Nate Bork grin Tough Has this team flowing and I still like what the what the Indiana Pacers are doing the bulls got to win I don't spend too much time on the bulls because again 90% of y'all don't care, but We we finally got a win and the Washington Wizards are way worse than Then we even thought My biggest concern with them going into this season even after the rest of us betrayed is they didn't Address any of the defensive issues other than they brought in Robin Lopez who was a okay defender But he's not gonna be out there defending everything and through the first four games of the season We see why their defense is so bad. Let's talk about the game No, at one point was that like 50 the Bucks get their revenge on a Jimmy Butler list Miami Heat I don't know what else to really what to say about this one. I was out of it three minutes into it Hopefully you were too. There's no reason to watch this game I the worst thing about this is that the two games that were on TNT The two games that were on TNT both in let me like 40 point L's and like for the people that don't have league pass Or don't know any of the outside ways to watch the other games This was your NBA fix today and it ended up being ass You know, I hate when stuff like that happens. Yeah, because the Bucks did what they had to do What do I say? Okay, see loses another game one and two, but I am so jealous of what okay See are doing right now because each one of their ails have been super competitive I mean they got the one game winner and then she gives Alexander had a layup against the jazz that he missed And in this one, I mean, I guess it ended up being the 11 point game They were in this game the whole time They have their core group of guys that we would consider like their future and still with all the draft picks And they're still being competitive and similar to what I said with the Detroit pisses as a rebuilding team You want to have your young guys playing and have competitive basketball talk about the Suns three and one on the season y'all Chris Paul man, I'm not giving it all the credit to Chris Paul obviously But you can see his impact the way the ball moves on the Phoenix Suns is magnificent We saw portions of this in the bubble when it was Ricky Rubio is the starting point guard But obviously, we know that Chris Paul is better than Ricky Rubio and the ball just swings I would love to I would love to sit down and have a conversation with Cameron Payne Because I don't know how he went from one of the worst players I have ever seen and I am not Exaggerating when he was with the Chicago Bulls like two years ago to actually being a good Rotational player on a competitive team. I don't know I would love to see what he did in the off-season and the two off-seasons between the time He was really really bad to time. He's good Legitimately Cameron Payne is good at basketball and I never thought that would be a sentence that will come out of my mouth You know what I'm saying? So I like what they're doing when it comes to the pelicans I think we talked about this before but like it's so easy to gain plan against them I don't trust nobody shooting the ball in their team except for JJ Reddick and Brandon Ingram And that seems like what Monty Williams did today was like we're gonna pack the paint Zion's not gonna beat us if Brandon Ingram want to take those shots will allow him He went one for five if Lonzo ball would take the shot Lonzo ball has turned himself into a respectable shooter But teams right now just letting them shoot. He ended up one for seven There's not a three-point shooter that I trust Eric Bledtoe can't hit a shot obviously Stephen Adams not gonna do that So they had a good game playing defensively and it worked out this team ended up putting up what? How many points did they put up 80s 86 points on national TV is really bad He just really is and that was our major criticism of going into the season like I don't know What Dave Griffin was doing on some of the things he did like obviously Stephen Adams a good NBA player And he holds your defense down on most occasions But when your star player one of your star players the guy like Zion that's like I'm not saying he's limited to the Within the first six feet of the rim But that's where he gets his work done to have a guy like Stephen Adams on the team and extend him It was just it's just so weird to me It just is and then obviously with the Eric Bledtoe thing just the spacing is all love It's so hard to predict this team and this is some of this is the reason why games like this are going to happen Pretty often with this team because of if you don't get a random Eric Bledtoe game It's going to be hard to get Zion to be super dominant to have Brandon Ingram to do what he has to do and have everybody else be I don't like the way they play today. My favorite game of the day ended up being the Kings versus the Nuggets Now the Nuggets were missing Jamal Murray. Yes, but man, do I absolutely I love this Kings team And I think I've talked about him in the last three episodes because that's just how much I like this team Y'all from the very top to the bottom my boy Reese was out there hooping in the grinches and shout out to everybody Hooping in the grinches today. It was a lot of people a very special moment in Kobe history today So I think a lot of people had that a mile and they were picking their sneakers for today's games I just like everything about this team man I interviewed Reese and I was saying in that video that like This is a team that was going to be competitive now when it got to the draft and Reese felt to there and I see I was looking Out for him because he's one of the homies I didn't like the idea if I'm playing for them just because of the Organization not because of the roster, you know what I'm saying because all the bad track record when it comes to the Kings I mean we saw some of it this offseason two with the by none of its stuff I didn't like the idea of having one of my guys one of my friends going to an organization that has his Reputation of just being bad, but right now the team is fun. They're running Dear Fox has got him Rashaan Holmes keeps doing that little flip-up layup And he ain't missed a single one all season it feels like and then Reese hitting big shots But he healed it doing a sting and in Harrison Barnes Today at least was playmaking more than I've ever seen in Harrison Barnes playmaking my life Yeah, that's that's all I really have to say. Um, Yoko's is still doing things Michael Porter, Jr. I was talking about Jason Tatum is one of those tough shot taker and makers Michael Porter, Jr. Is up there, bro And I know it's a smaller sample size for him compared to some of the other players But there are plenty of times in this game was like, oh, that's a bad never mind. Good shot Michael Porter, Jr That's just the way he shoots the ball and I bet it could be frustrating for his teammates But when he was on like he was today specifically in the third quarter Then it's hard to guard him But in the fourth quarter he kind of went silent and then that's when the Kings took off and everything For the games that I did not talk about the Knicks are two and two they beat up on sex land I didn't really watch much of this game except for like a few highlights and I see that Julius Randall turned into Who is a Knicks player that got a lot of triple while Frazier did while Frazier get triple doubles back in the day I literally don't know he turned into that and I think I hit every single other game one of these days I promise you Knicks fans one of these days I'm gonna actually sit down and watch a game of yours. It has not happened yet So I don't have any takeaways from your games usually I apologize for that This is probably the game since Julius Randall became the greatest player of all time Let me know what you think in the comment section Oh in the description, I'm gonna leave a link to our flick chat if you don't know what it is the group chat We have maybe we have 6,000 people in there right now that like live react to games together There's pose. There's money on the line So I'm gonna put that in the description and just download it join the group and let me know what you think about it All right, I'll see y'all to soon call game


In this final video of the selling service design with confidence series with my killing and myself, you're going to learn about the ultimate sales tip Mike came give us if you haven't seen any of the previous videos, we've got the playlist over here. Make sure you check out all of them because we've helped you to overcome three of the most common sales challenges we got from the service design community. And in this video, we want to close off with one final question. Are you ready for that, Mike? Let's do it. All right. So my question to you would be right now, if you go back in time and think about all the things you learned about sales. What's the lesson that you wish you would have learned earlier about selling and why? Yeah, so I've been doing it for a long time. And the more I do it, the more I realize and the more sales I make as well. People typically don't buy products because they understand the product and it's insane as that sounds. We get very good at understanding the intricacies of a satellite TV box and we sell all the bits and pieces and everything it does. Even the benefits to an extent, we get really good at that. People are more likely to buy because you are enthusiastic about the product and you are enthusiastic about the customer. If you show visibly and people say I'm very animated and I move my hands a lot and I yell, I've got voice inflection, that was learned over a long period of time. I'm actually a very quiet person off camera. I tend not to be like this partly because it's exhausting.  And I think we've tried to learn so much about closing tactics and sales tactics and budgets and all the word questions and all the ways we can word benefits and thinking of different ways to price models and different promotion strategies and funnels and marketing. Ultimately, if you are enthusiastic about the product and enthusiastic about the customer, they're more likely to buy Jim Rohn, I believe, said sales is a transfer of enthusiasm. That's all it is. That's all it matters. The word that comes to my mind is authenticity because I see a lot of excited people enthusiastic just because they want to make a sale. What's your take on that? Yeah, I think that's fair, but the reality is they are making sales, right? That's the reality is they are making sales. People have a go at that and they go, oh, it's hokey, you know, you can see right through it. The cold hard reality is they are making sales. If their product isn't good, there's nothing that you can do about that. Your job is to make sure that your product over delivers on their expectations on the back end. But the way to make the sale, selling and delivery are two completely different options. That's why we have salespeople and then we have the operations and delivery process. If you genuinely believe that your product can help people, if you understand who benefit, and one of the exercises we do is we write out, if someone buys this product, who benefits? And we'll go into it. Well, the customer benefits, the customer's family benefits, their bank benefits, their shareholders benefits, their customers benefit, and we go into a long, long, long list. We go, okay, what if they don't buy? Who suffers? You know, well, again, the customer suffers. And it shifts your perspective to think broader than just making money. And the reality is, yeah, a lot of those guys might look like they're overly enthusiastic just to make the sale, but they are making the sale. If you want to do it morally from a perspective where you think, well, actually I'm going to deliver a good product, great, all for you. But the reality is we see time and time again that the best product doesn't make the sale. The most enthusiastic person who clearly cares about the customer the most, that's the person who makes the sale. Right. Yeah. And so not being less shy and being more excited than understanding, maybe I think you talked about it a few times, it's actually that you feel obliged to make the sale because you're going to help your client. Yeah. Once you get into that kind of mood, that changes the whole perspective on why you're selling, right? Just have fun. Like, even the guys, there's a couple of guys sort of down the road from me and they are the most ornery, grouchy, grumbly, never buy anything. They're cynical about everything.  If I try to sell them, I've got like, I've got these 20 books guys, you can give each one of them to your sales guys. I'm giving you a slight discount because we bought them at cost, it's 200 bucks. I'm not spending 200 bucks on one book. We can just give them one book and share it. You know, I really enjoy having these conversations with you, Simon, because you're always finding new ways for me to not sell these products. Just have fun. And when you have fun and have a conversation with them, very rarely are people actually negative and very rarely when you try to help someone and yes, sell them something, they're going to be negative response to you. Have fun with it. And yeah, you don't have to be overly animated, but if you feel that obligation and you think, yeah, I just want to have fun with this and be enthusiastic about it, it's far easier making sales. Mike, we could talk about this for a while. We could make a YouTube channel about this. So to sort of try to wrap this up, where can people learn more? What would be your recommended resources for people to dig into? So two parts. First of all, genuinely, my blog on just on sales, that's all I talk about, sell your service. So that's all I do is talk about. And I've got the YouTube channel, I'm sure we'll link to that. I'll link to it. Yeah, for sure. If I was going to go external, there's a couple of books. First of all, Ziggler, old school sales, really good sales training. He talks about the morality of selling as well as the more tactical stuff. He has one book or training series called The Secrets of Closing the Sale, which in my opinion is probably one of the best sales books in the world. There's also an audio sales program. It's a big sales training series. So even if you are not a taller sales person, it sounds like the most salesy sales program in the world, but it is a really good insight into just how important being good at selling is. Not just for the customer, not just for you, but for kind of the economy in general. Very good training series. The other side would be to check out a book called Pitch Anything by a guy called Oren Klaff. I'm a huge fan of Oren's work. That helped me take all of these ideas, all of my products and features and benefits and stuff and put it into a kind of a cohesive argument or a cohesive kind of structure. Helps with my copywriting and all those kinds of things. So Pitch Anything by Oren Klaff and Anything by Ziggler, really, but predominantly the secrets of closing the sale. Very good. Awesome. I will make sure to link to it. Again, if you are not subscribed to Mike's channel yet, what are you doing here, man? Go check out Mike's channel. Even though it's not about service design, you'll learn a huge ton of it. So, Mike, before we close off, I would love to know from you watching. If you've watched the whole series, props. Good for you. You've learned a lot about sales. I hope that you got some big insight out of these big takeaways. Let us know down below in the comments, what were your biggest takeaways and what is the thing that's still on your mind that you'd like us to expand more upon, right, Mike? We'd love to hear that. Yeah, definitely. It's always useful. I'm sure we can figure that out as well. Well, we'll be there to help you continue this journey. Thanks, Mike, for being so generous with your time. I learned a lot from these sessions. Thanks for having me on, man. It was good. I really enjoyed it. I had a good time. And again, if you're not subscribed to Mike's channel, probably the link is over here. And if you'd like to continue learning about how to sell service design with confidence, check out this video, because we're going to continue there anyway. So, thanks for watching, and I'll see you there.