So Steve Sherlock here for Franklin Matters, Franklin Public Radio and TV in this case. Here for a candidate interview with our incumbent candidate for the town council, Ted Cormie-Eledger. Ted, how are you doing today? Great, Steve. Thanks for having me. You're welcome. So for the people who may not know, who's this guy, Ted? What is he doing? Can you give us a little bit of background? What's your kind of Franklin story? Sure. I came to Franklin with my family back in 2016. Having lived in Dedum, Stoughton, Norwood, grew up in Medford, went to college in Florida, right? So I've lived in Seattle for a while, kind of been all over. But we've really enjoyed our time in Franklin to date, it's a very great welcoming community. My boys are involved in a whole lot of activities which has made me involved in a lot of activities, right? From their youth sports to karate, to bands, to different things that they do. I served on the Franklin Cultural Council for a couple of years. I was president of my neighborhood association, so people might know me from that. I try to be out and about at activities throughout town, whether it's performances or youth games, or ribbon cuttings, or just different things. I am a business owner here in town as well. I'm just happy to give back in this role as a town councilor. Cool. Thanks for that. Clearly, we're gearing up for the town election, the biennial election every two years. We have an opportunity as voters to elect or re-elect as the case is for town council, school committee, planning board, board of assessors, board of health. There's a couple others in there, but there's a whole slate of candidates up for it. Regular voting is certainly not absolutely required, although it's certainly encouraged. Do you want to speak to that as well? Sure. I think it's our responsibility to vote locally, state elections, federal elections. It's certainly not something I take lightly. There's people all over the world that don't have those rights and privileges, so we should take the couple of minutes to make sure that we're doing our part. I think especially in a local election, where most of these roles are volunteers, most of these people are giving of their time, talent, and treasure, the least we can do as the public is come out and show them support and vote. I can't think of an election that I haven't voted in, to be honest, like going all the way back. I was really excited when I turned 18 and was able to vote for the first time and took a real interest in it. I think everybody should figure out what are the issues that matter to them, what are the candidates that best align with their own values, ask questions, attend meetings, get involved, and don't just rely on the things you hear on social media because a lot of that can be incorrect. It's good to delve into it. I pride myself on responding to everybody that reaches out and try to get them the information that they need. Good. Thank you for that. Yeah, the local election, I think, and I think we've talked elsewhere as well that the local action is really respectfully much more important than the state and federal. Yes, they do affect us, but the town budget done, voted on by the counselors. In this case, school committee does their portion, of course, but you're all volunteers. The town budget is what affects us on a daily basis in terms of our streets, roads, services, you name it. This is what we've got. It's local. There's a lot going on, so I think it's important for people to not just get involved, but ask questions, be great if more people stepped up and served on a committee or figured out a way to lend their own perspective and talents to what we have going on. But I do enjoy meeting such a wide variety of people in this role and really trying to hear all of the different challenges because everybody, whether you're a young family or your people that have been here for a while, or you're on the other end of the spectrum, the senior population that are living and doing their thing on fixed incomes, like everybody comes to things with a different perspective and it's important to be a good listener. Definitely. In particular, for your role as an incumbent coming back to the town council, for those who may not be aware of you, what experiences in the background help you to serve in this particular road? What do you bring to the table that perhaps sets you apart from some of the other candidates? Sure. Let's see. For 20-some odd years, I worked in the nonprofit sector in Boston, helping in a number of roles from program management, volunteer management, fiscal management, which included a lot of budgets and fundraising. I'd like to think that I bring that wealth of knowledge with me into this role with certainly not going to say that I'm an expert by any means, but I am able to at least comb through the data and ask questions and understand when priorities get made. Having served on the cultural council for a couple of years, that gave me unique perspective into the arts and culture scene here in town and their funding needs. Just having been involved with other nonprofits like the theater over in Jamaica Plain that we were involved in for years and serving on that board, serving on other boards, I think those experiences just help you understand how to work with staff, how to work with volunteers, how to understand and navigate budgets, and quite honestly, how to ask some of those difficult questions sometimes, with framing them in a respectful way, but still being willing to say, hey, I don't fully understand this, or can we get some more information on this and being able to do that without being belligerent or angry, or because what I try to keep in mind Steve with all of this is there are people behind every decision. There's staff that work really hard on these budgets and these priorities and these projects, and they put forth what they think is best. We look at the data from our own perspective, but we do have to understand that, okay, these folks are very intelligent, they work a lot of hours, and many times they're coming to us looking for support. Yeah. Good. I'll put it in a slight plug. I did have a recording with our controller Chris Andini and Treasurer Collector Terry Bertoni that walked through the entire budget cycle. Yeah. To your point, clearly the budget starts at that department level within the department and then the manager, then the managers review that with Jamie, and then Jamie and the finance committee go through that publicly, and then it comes to the town council. Yeah. There's a bunch of reviews, there's a bunch of questions asked, but in some cases while they may know the inside story, it may not have been public yet until whether it's a Fincom or a town council discussion and then says, well, why is that what it is? That info, that background certainly is important to understand. Oh, that's why. Yes. Yeah. People need to understand that we are a really big town with a really wide breadth of services, and services cost money. It's not just schools and roads and sidewalks. There's a lot of moving pieces to this very complicated thing called the town of Franklin. I've certainly learned a lot these last two years, asked a ton of questions, both in meetings and in what the viewers are able to see during town council itself. I think also speak to, it's not just a public role. You've got hours potentially, certainly subcommittee meetings outside of the public sessions, and all of that work is also required. It may not be visible, but it's certainly required. Yeah. I think this job is what you're willing to put into it, and everybody certainly comes to it with a different schedule. I've met countless people face-to-face over the last couple of years just for coffee. Let's get together, let's not have this engagement online, let's really sit down face-to-face and let me hear what's on your mind. I think people respect that. I think people appreciate, yeah, this guy took the time to hear me out. Maybe we didn't agree on everything, but at least we were able to shake hands at the end, and they got to know me a little better. The subcommittee meetings are important because there's a lot of work to do, there's a lot of roll your sleeves up and get into it, but then there's all that other stuff. There's the ribbon cuttings, there's the business openings, there's the just the sporting events or theater events or things when people like to see their local elected officials show up and they like to see the support and they like to see even if we're not playing an official role, we're just there. Even if I'm just sitting at the varsity football game and the stands cheering on the home team, I talk to people throughout that entire game, but they just know that I'm there supporting the kids and supporting the program and I think that's important. Yeah, in terms of one of the key responsibilities and certainly hiring the town administrator, I think it's probably the key, but then the second certainly challenging that is the budget that you approve on an annual basis. That effectively sets the priorities because as much as we wish we could do things unless it's funded, we can't actually do things. Chloe, based on some of the forecasts I know you've seen and heard party of, we're into a set of years where there's potential fiscal challenges. Chloe, we've already had the storm order fee, the sewer rate increase because of beaver, street interceptor, tri-county vote is coming up for a debt exclusion for their building. There's a lot of challenges attacking effectively the individual pocket. How are you gonna set your priorities? And Chloe, while you do have those individual conversations, we can take this few minutes here so that people at least get a broad understanding of your prioritizations and how you make your decision as to what the budget should be. Sure, I think everybody needs to understand that we all work really, really hard to make sure that the budget is fair and balanced and that the budget is giving the widest possible variety of services to everybody. So while schools take up a huge portion and certainly police and fire and DPW, I'm very mindful of the senior center, the library, veterans affairs, park and rec, all of the different things that people that live and work here and raise a family here get to enjoy. And yeah, I wish we had bigger money, right? My friend, counselor, Frangelo coined the phrase, we need a bigger pot, right? Like that's pretty obvious at this point. I mean, anybody just looking at the simple math, inflation is higher than the two and a half percent that we're allowed to raise taxes by every year. So no matter what we do, we're always behind the eight ball, essentially because of Prop two and a half, right? It really does kind of tie our hands. One of the things that I would like us to address, I brought it up at the capital subcommittee meetings, I brought it up publicly at our finance meetings is truly how do we fund police, fire and schools and DPW in particular fully so that they don't have to rely on free cash during the capital expenditure period for things that I consider to be their basic needs, right? Schools should not be asking for curriculum books during the capital expense time. Police and fire shouldn't be asking for safety equipment during capital expense time. DPW shouldn't be asking us for basic sidewalk repair during capital time, but their hands are tied, right? I understand why the requests end up there. I just fundamentally think free cash and capital should be just that it should be as defined for special one-time projects. So we have to get enough money into the operating budget so that that capital free cash, which isn't guaranteed by the way, that's only money that is sort of left over after the end of a given fiscal year and get certified. You have a bad year, you have a bad snow year, all of a sudden we have very little to spend in that category. So I think that's really where the challenge lies, Steve. I mean, we have tens of millions of dollars of projects on the DPW list that we can't fund. I don't think a lot of people understand because that's sort of like not the sexy stuff, right? That's the stuff that maybe we don't see, it's the stuff below the ground, it's infrastructure, but it's very critical, very critical to being able to run effective and safe town. The schools clearly need more money, right? We have to figure out a way to fund them at a level where they feel they're able to effectively do their job for the kids here in town. I've sat in on so many, not just private conversations, but some of the public conversations and we just need to do better. And that's a hard conversation to have with folks who already feel like things are strapped and their taxes are already becoming a burden for their family budgets and I get it. And that's why I feel like this whole conversation has to be handled with such an incredible amount of care and understanding of all sides. And I think it can be done. I know the finance subcommittees have been meeting and they've been talking about what is that magic number that we can come up with to present to folks. I don't think they're there yet, but I applaud that both the schools and the municipal side are trying to come together and figure that out and give us something to talk about. And that's gonna be a tough conversation, I think for people in Franklin. And we just have to be able to wrap our heads around it and say, yeah, we're confident, we know where this money is going, we know why it's needed, these are the things that we value as a town and we're willing to move it forward. But until we can all come together and do that, it's just kind of this wait and see game. And in the meantime, we do the very best that we can with what we have. And I think it's important for the public to understand that we do really an excellent job with the budget. And when you think about the AAA bond rating and the fact that the independent audits that come back have no management reports for the last couple of years, like not a lot of towns can say that. Right, so people need to understand that their money is being managed wisely, it's not being misspent, the town takes great pains with every penny and we're able to offer quite a bit here in town when you truly look at us compared to other communities similar size, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anybody that gives as much as we do to the people that live here. Yeah, I would agree. Certainly from my experience in reporting and then just traveling around as well, granted there may be spots here and there for some roads, but generally our roads are far better than many others. Our fields, the sports, recreation playgrounds, et cetera, they rate with the best. And then clearly the performance of the individual departments while we've certainly got the finance side with the AAA rating, et cetera, and the clean audits, you know, fire department is also the A1 rated, police department is certified, schools won again at the least at the high school level, adult and award because of their success on the fields and that really starts back as I understand it with the youth sports and the entire programs from rec through the various youth sports leagues that builds to the success of the Franklin High School. And then the kids can have success beyond that as well. We hear periodically from Hockamock sports, you know, focusing on a particular alumni here and there, whether it's in track and field or football and people are doing well, granted, we're not perfect. We do need more money because we're falling further and further behind. So we're doing some things, but not doing as much. And that's gonna be a key question. Well, and I think, you know, if we shift away from sports for a second, we're very lucky to be a cultural district. We're very lucky to have a very successful and thriving Franklin Performing Arts Company here in town, bringing Broadway talent to town. We have a Franklin Art Association. We have a very active Franklin Cultural Council. All of these things contribute to the arts in partnership with Dean College and other entities. So the art scene here is really important. And I'm proud that we continue to help fund that a little bit at a time, right? But to be able to give money in our town budget so that the state money through mass cultural council can at least be matched and we're able to give out those grants. A lot of towns aren't doing that. A lot of towns just can't find it in their budgets to put away 10, 15, $20,000 a year to help make sure the arts are thriving. And Franklin always does. And I applaud that. And I think as much as I support youth sports and, you know, all of the various sports things, it's important that we keep an eye on the arts and the cultural piece too because there's a lot of different needs here in the town. One of the things I didn't touch on that, you know I continue to be a little bit of a thorn in my friend Brutus's side about sidewalks but, you know, I really do think that's an area we could be doing a little bit better maintaining the sidewalks we have. I understand building new sidewalks is certainly important but you walk the neighborhoods of town and many of the sidewalks haven't been touched for various reasons, you know, since they were built. And I would like us to chip away at that a little bit at a time. I know they're working on a sidewalk master plan but I think residents would be happy if they knew, oh, okay, my sidewalk is slated for, you know to be redone next year or the year after they, if they saw our list. Cause I don't like seeing people step off the sidewalk onto the street, walk in their baby carriage or walk in their dog or jogging. Part of being a thriving community is being able to have accessible sidewalks that get us from one place to the next. And I know we're not there yet and I know it's gonna take some money. And I know that the DPW works hard to look at grants and they have a whole list of infrastructure projects they're trying to get to but I continue to be that little sort of chirping bird in their ear and say, you know, hey, can we do a little bit here? Can we do a little bit there? And they're always really receptive to my ideas and to my thoughts. It just comes down to the funding. Yeah, I think the sidewalks is a factor of our growth and how we have grown. And yet it's also a factor that I think is kind of a hidden elephant in the room that we don't always talk about is we're not equitable in terms of sidewalks and their distribution. There are streets with two sidewalks, there are streets with one, there are streets with none. And I'm just within the mile of downtown center because that's where I'm mostly doing my walking. But you can think of, you know, almost any number of streets, even what choose it, which has car mentor on it. You've got two sidewalks on much of it but then even up at the school end, there's only a sidewalk on the one side of the school, there's no sidewalk on the other. You know, that kind of equitability, especially since the Central Park Terrace with some folks in there that are certainly handicap challenged, they're forced to cross some streets perhaps more than they should if there were sidewalks on both sides in all cases. So yeah, I don't certainly expect knowing as much of the budget as I do as you know as well. That's something that's not gonna change overnight. It's not gonna happen right away, but at least fixing the ones that we do have to your point would certainly be a step in that direction. In some cases, respectfully, where we have a street with no sidewalks, in some cases we probably shouldn't have sidewalks but at least in the downtown area where it's possible. I think that makes sense. Well, and you know, Steve, years ago, I guess there used to be sort of a ward system here in town and town officials were elected that way and that got done away with, and I understand the various reasons, but if you think back, if elected officials on the town council were truly representing a ward or a section of town, they'd be fighting really hard to make sure that like the needs of that particular area were getting met and then everybody would sort of be, you know, fighting for that little section of town and everybody would get probably a little bit done. With the system that we have now where we are looking at the total needs of the town all the time, I think some of that sort of local neighborhood stuff gets overlooked. Not criticizing anybody, just pointing out when we made that shift as a town we perhaps took a little bit of the eye off of the, that sort of very localized issue. And I think when people say, okay, I'm a tax-paying citizen here in Franklin, they're not just looking at schools and roads, they're looking at sidewalks, they're looking at parks, they're looking at the senior center, right? They're looking at all of the different services that they can tap into. Sure, yeah, and I think we should probably continue that discussion in another one because we can go a long way around that one. But being mindful of your time and the potential voter's time. I think we've covered some of the key pieces. You're out on social. Is there any particular place that people would, you would want them to reach you through too in case they want to continue this conversation on a point or two? Sure, I mean, they could certainly find me on Facebook. I pride myself on my public service announcements all the time to just make sure the public isn't formed. Contacting me via the town website is perfectly fine or the town email, my cell phone,<PHONE_NUMBER>. I respond to everybody, send me a text, give me a call. If I don't get back to you right away, I promise I'll get back to you within 24 hours and we'll figure out what it is that you need and we'll make some time to get together. I think it's important that folks don't take this election for granted. I think we need everybody to show up and vote, not just the Tri-County Special Election, but the local election. And a lot of these races maybe are uncontested, but certainly the town council race is and if people just don't show up, that's sending the wrong message. I think that these, the folks including myself that are taking the time to volunteer and run, we need your support. So I certainly encourage everybody to show up. I encourage everybody to make an informed decision and I would very much appreciate their vote on November 7th. Well, thank you and quick reminder to the voters, potential voters at least. There are many times, many opportunities to vote certainly in person at the town clerk's office before the election on November 7th. Ballots are still available via mail and absentee if you're gonna be out of town that day and certainly the day of at Franklin High School from 6 a.m. through 8 p.m. And I'm sure Ted will be there at least during the day if that most of the day. I'll be around. So certainly stop by, say hi, give us some feedback in terms of this candidate series so that we can prepare for the next one even better than we're doing this time around. Well, thanks Steve and thank you to everybody watching. Thank you. And a quick reminder we do this because Franklin matters.


This is Think Tech Hawaii, Community Matters here. Okay, it's still Monday. Still Think Tech. All day long. Now, this is Think Tech Tech Talks. We've been talking about technology, but also the energy, and we're talking about impact investment in things like that. I'm calling this show, A New Age of Awareness in Impact Investment, Through the Vision, if you will, of Gordon Fuller. Hi, Gordon. Aloha. Good morning. Good morning. Nice to have you here again at this table. Honored. And you brought somebody with you. His name is Dylan Lanius. Can you introduce him for me? Well, my lovely friend Dylan has a very special mission. He's been working as an impact investor with a group of millennials who have chosen to impact the way financial markets operate and have been doing so with great skill and cutting. And so, we're honored to have him here. He's been enjoying Hawaii. Thank you, Gordon. Thank you, Dylan, for coming down. Pleasure, Jay. You're operating out in New York City. Gordon lives here. He has an advantage on you. I'm afraid. Dylan lives in New York City. What's it like in New York City doing impact investing there? Well, the New York City pulse, as you know, is much quicker than it is in Hawaii. So, it's a lot of fun because there's a constantly changing landscape of players, of people that are passionate about the space. Once the other day, the Wall Street Journal introduced a story on a very prominent, big investor called Janna Partners, who I studied under. My university was with a partner at Janna Partners, co-founder of the firm. And they've moved into impact investing. And they're a traditional asset manager, traditional investors. And so, the landscape of impact investing is evolving quite quickly, and New York City is really the epicenter of that space. Interesting. So, things are changing then. Wall Street is not so much Wall Street as it used to be Wall Street, right? Well, Wall Street is always looking for opportunities, always looking for where's the money, and how can they get a piece of it, right? That's essentially the Wall Street way. Without trying to affect public policy. They're just looking to make a buck. And that's what impact investing relates to, is how do investors do well by doing good.  Hiradea. Hiradea, capital management. What is that? So, we're a long, short public equity investment manager, and we look at public listed companies, how they are approaching environmental, social, governance problems, and then how business innovation and organizational change and regulatory policy shifts is affecting the pricing and valuation of those companies. And so, we look for opportunities in the marketplace to buy and sell securities. So, you're not necessarily advising people. You're doing it. You are doing investment. We're doing it on behalf of our investors, and we're working with companies to improve their performance around environmental, social, governance issues. So, we engage with company management, with boards of directors. We look to engage in the broader ecosystem as well, the stakeholders around a business, from customers to regulators to the general public, and help understand how forces the change, the evolution in culture and society around what are the environmental problems, the social problems, the governance problems that are most pressing, and how those are being affected, and how these different participants in the marketplace and in the world are changing their behaviors, and then look to engage in ways where we can improve the environmental, social, governance outcome of improved state and improved condition. You know, I mean, policy is determined by capital investment these days, more than before. And I remember, I was a Harvard Business School professor out here a few years ago, and she said, you've got to follow the money. If there's a trail of money from, say, country to country, if a country is spending money in the global realm, that's a certain amount of power. But if you measure it by that, look at the multinationals. They spend lots more money than countries do in the global realm. So they, theoretically, well, in fact, they have more power because they're spending money between countries in the global realm. Well, anyway, I mean, I think things are changing. Gordon, you've been following this for a long time. What's your sense of it these days? Well, it's interesting. I've been looking ahead. That's my special area of focus. I'm a designer, and I look at the... A designer? A designer. A designer. What is a designer? Well, you know, I started in life as an artist. I was a painter and illustrator, and was kind of a child prodigy, honestly, and then had the opportunity to study at university. And I was a kid in art and went to art and design school in Europe and had a great future ahead of me as a designer. And then I found myself challenged by blindness. It was a progressive loss of vision. Sorry to hear that. My vision. Well, you know, actually, it's been something of a gift. You know, I'm still alive. I was always interested in highly dangerous sports, from rodeo to motocross, by racing and surfing. Tell us how it's a gift. Well, you know, it's been in sight that I have gotten from the experience of vision loss. The world as a designer, to me, is greatly malaligned with the human need and the environmental problems that we have. So good design would recognize that. I submit that we as humans have evolved in the natural world to develop this tremendous gift of vision that gives us such incredible abilities to be such extremophiles, to adapt ourselves, to be flexible and adaptable. But in our modern world, everything around us is synthetic and made by the hand of mankind. And in this world, this utterly synthetic world, we've lost our way. We fail to perceive reality. And in truth, our own little monkey brains, which are wonderful brains for avoiding pain and seeking pleasure, really good. A million monkey brains I'll add to this conversation. They're easily manipulated by clever men like myself, where we learn how to twist a phrase and push the monkey's buttons and pull his tail and get him to do the things we want him to, to buy a new car, buy a purse. But we've discovered a lot since we started on this journey as human beings. And it's true that the same pleasure you get from buying a purse at the mall or a new car, you can get by reading a book to a child. So taking individual responsibility is the part of the in-breast. So you call your organization, I guess it's your company, Fuller Vision, based on the same enough. The other thing I get out of that, which I really hadn't gotten before, is when you're into design, it's more than visual design. It's design of everything, am I right? Truly so. And in the world that I come from, the world of Buckminster Fuller, of science fiction, of people that push the envelope of mankind's endeavors, I sort of am looking for how we solve the unmet problems of our society, both environmental and human. And I think we're in such an age of miracles that it behooves us to recognize that things are changing very rapidly. You know, my good, lovely colleague to my right here, Dylan, his group, Nexus, that he works with, is a group of young people that have looked ahead and say, we want to make an impact. We want to use our resources and our influence to make this a better world. So you're behind that. You want to see that. You want to see the millennials step up to impact investing. They are stepping up, but you know what? We'll join them too. Most of my older colleagues don't even know how to use a smartphone, you know? But those things are kind of crude devices. They require you to pay a lot of attention to little things on the screen. Take it from a blind man, that's a hard thing to do. And I noticed this. And I see how people have not really adopted that technology as rapidly. But now with the AIs and new vision systems, an area I've been interested in as a person who's blind, how can I use artificial intelligence, deep learning and pattern recognition to create systems that can visualize the world around me and give me the information about the people, places and objects I encounter. And you found that you can. And that technology is now off the hook. It's everywhere. It's changing the world very rapidly. People aren't really a cognizant of it, just yet. But very soon you'll have your own personal AI that'll help you. So whatever you do in life, if you're about to make a transaction or purchase, you can get the information. No, don't buy that. That's a corporate pig. Or that has toxins. You're kind of a laboratory for the rest of us. In other words, you have this advantage and I do consider it an advantage of being internal, intrinsic, self-contained. And your thought process is different and therefore more expansive in its own way. So it's not inaccurate to call it a fuller vision. Nope, not a bit. And your worldview, which you've expressed to me before, I think has actually expanded since we last met. So the question I put to you, Dylan, is how much of the worldview that Gordon has expressed you agree with? Where are you? Well, I'm right here next to you, Jay. I got this, Gordon. I got that. Take a note of that.  The future is wide open with possibilities that we're bringing into the present. And so the choice of path for any one of us in pursuing a technology innovation to its culmination or to exploring the world through technology innovation and how we can come together and really develop this partnership with each other in the human realm of ideas and making those ideas real, that this is part of the play that has been going on for the complete history of the human race. We think about the first technology, maybe that was a cooking pot, right? Being able to eat different kinds of food. Mastering fire, well, when it first happened, people got burned in that process. And some people, I'm sure, in that era said, hey, we shouldn't play with fire. And so we have that same thing occurring today with issues like synthetic biology, with cybernetics, with the integration of computer systems and human systems.  There's only certain kinds of technology. So what's the definition for you? I think people have different definitions. So I can speak to my definition. For me, what's impactful is something that, in my own life, is lighting me up, right? Is impacting me. And an investment that is a learning experience, an investment that is looking to realize some type of gain beyond just a financial return. Personal gain. Personal satisfaction, alignment with my values, desire to see something in the world beyond just a material, a financial gain. Nothing wasn't aligned with your values, if it wasn't. So I think that's the... If it did not give you that special gratification, would you not touch it? Would you ignore that possible investment? So I think that exactly is the definition of an impact investment. It's almost like, buy it what it's not. So an impact investment is something that has a impact that isn't just for financial gain. So for my own self, for my own portfolio, there is different ways that the mind can play and run into poops and say, hey, if I'm holding a stock as a stockholder, this company is providing a product or a service that is solving somebody's need, somebody's desire. There is some solution being offered there. What about current developments and sea changes that may have taken place after you originally decided this was consistent with your values? You wake up in the morning, you open the paper, and you find this company is doing something that offends you, that is not consistent with your values. They're involved in something bad. What do you do? Go and sell, right away, sell? What do you do? I think people have to look at their personal liabilities and their personal assets and make that determination for themselves. I liked what Gordon was saying earlier about how it's really on the individual's sense of personal responsibility. So taking responsibility for one's own investments is what leads to that impact investing and saying that I want to have an investment portfolio that aligns with me, that is doing well by doing good. And so this expectation is what my generation is calling for is that level of self-determination as every new generation comes in and taking their money, their financial assets, and saying that we can do more with our financial assets. Are you saying this is a sea change around the country where millennials like you are growing in number and are growing in the focus for impact investment? Are you saying that your generation is different from us, you know, Gordon? Your generation is actually getting into impact investment big time more than it was five years ago? Yes, definitely. How do you know that? I think that the anecdotal evidence in my own personal experience speaks to that. But importantly for anybody who follows objective reality or tries to have some measure of objective reality, there are a lot of studies that show that millennials' orientation towards their investment portfolios are around impact investing. And these are studies done by Deloitte, by Goldman Sachs, by major institutions who are trying to part people from their money or trying to serve people who have money or trying to provide a service to people in order to provide for themselves. So they're looking at this arena as it's changing, as the generations are changing, and saying how can they position their businesses to provide a meaningful product and service to you? This suggests to me that there's a polarization here, because after all, the oil companies have to get investment too, and they're not so much into clean energy. Some of them talk about that, but I don't know if they're really heavily involved in clean energy. How do you feel about that? There's a polarization between the guys who want to make a buck at any cost and the guys who have impact investment and have philosophical standards, global vision, if you will.  How do you feel about that? Yeah, I'm sure that's one of the things that's about to change very substantially. Again, it goes back to that awareness thing. If I'm aware that a company is a corporate pig, that it behaves badly to its employees, that it makes products that are toxic, that it has unfair labor. Any of those things would negate my trading with them, and so that means either from an investor standpoint, but even as a purchaser. And that's what I'm saying is the granularity of the knowledge and awareness of the world around us is about to reach the individual level. And when I'm concerned about various things from global warming or global climate change to oil companies that are corrupting the government to telecom companies that are evil, I'm going to divest of those products in my life as much as I am not going to divest. I mean, it's just noble and it's been going on and it sounds like you guys are practicing it faithfully, but we live in the age of Trump. We live in the age where the government is pulling the wings out of the Environmental Protection Act, that it's building pipelines for fossil fuel, that it's doing, we don't have time on this show to tell you all the things the government is doing that are inimical to what you're saying. And I wonder how things have changed this year under this administration for you in making this kind of analysis.     Are you saying that if I follow these rules that you guys are following, to be faithful to my own tastes and inclinations, my most high-minded tasting, that I can combat what the Trump administration is doing with the country? I think it brings it all back to Hawaii. Here in Hawaii, people here, we appreciate our quality of life. We look at Puerto Rico and see what's happened there. And we understand that we have challenges ahead of us. And we're all starting to look ahead and think of how we can shoulder our own responsibility, how we can reduce our requirement for imported oil, how we can find our own local foods, improve our health care. We're doing that. Those are the opportunities for investors. That's where we're going to see a lot of change from a local level, when we become aware locally of what our impact is by our buying decisions, by our engagement. Well, now we've seen it from, I don't know, maybe the 50,000-foot level from you guys. Right after this break, we're going to come back and ask you about specific deals, OK? We're going to get down in the weeds, ready? In that case, we'll take a break. We'll be right back. Living in this crazy world, so caught up in the confusion. Nothing is making sense. Fusion, how to make a party. OK, we're back. I told you I'd come back. I told you what we were going to do. We're now going to ask you specifics on what you're doing with your big bucks, OK? So, Dylan, I'm looking at you. What do you got going? What can I learn from you about your investments these days? What are you investing in? So, right now, I'm investing in situations where, as an investor, I can actively influence the outcome of the company's development because the company needs or has a need for strategic advice that can help it resolve an ongoing organizational challenge or business challenge for it. So, one example of this is a traditional real estate development company very much of the Trump-esque thinking of that era of generational change happening now. It's a real estate development company in California. And it's tied up in litigation because of how it's treating the California condor's habitat. And this is bringing the wrath of people in the environmental movement who have tied it up in courts for its development schedule. So, I've been working with this. They must be losing money because of that. They're losing money. They're also losing valuation. Their ability to raise money and to develop this piece of property is limited because of that. And so, I've been working with this company on a green real estate development plan that aligns with LEED certification, with independent studies that can support the green outcomes, the ecological outcomes for this region, as well as helping them become advocates and supporters for the California condor. Helping the company. Helping the company. So, how do you do that?  You appear at their board of directors and make some statements that try to change their minds or you write them letters. How do you do that? So, it's all about building relationship and rapport. And so, it comes down to listening mostly and to seeking understanding and open curiosity as to why they are taking their positions. To do research. A lot of research, a lot of relationship building. And to give them the product of the research. And over time, understanding where they're coming from and then presenting pathways where they can have resolution of this outstanding business organizational problem. And then, see that the financial gain that they're seeking for can also be met by creating an environmental gain. Do they listen? They listen within various degrees. And ultimately, the resolution of any of these issues, there's always a compromise involved. Why did they listen? Why did they listen to you? I mean, because. Their interests are aligned with resolving this outstanding business problem, organizational problem. You give them persuasive positions on it. Give them evidence that there is a marketplace for this green real estate that their litigants will come into a settlement if they take certain steps forward in their real estate development plan and if they support the California condor directly with philanthropic dollars. Now you own a piece of the company. You bought it, did you buy it before they got into the fight about the condors? Bought it afterwards. Afterward, you saw they were at this advantage. So you went in there to buy stock and then correct it. And so the cost of the stock, I guess it's stock, right, it's a corporation, the cost of the stock was lower than it would be had they resolved, when they resolved the condor litigation. Exactly right. So this makes money for you in the sense that you're gonna clean them up. That's right. It's trading a discount to a fair market value. I use a fundamental value discipline, a traditional, a warm, buffet approach. Do you have a big position, a plurality position, or a majority position? No. I mean, what percentage of the stock of this company do you own? Well, I own less than 1% of the company. It's really the power of ideas. At the end of the day. So you don't own stock in the company? Well, I don't own a material position in the company. Nothing that, for me, material, but for the company's capital table, immaterial position. But that ownership gets you in the door. It gets me in the door, and ultimately it's the power of ideas that my interests are aligned with their interests and that we're talking about the long-term well-being of their business. Last question on this though. You feel passionate about it, and you're incurring expense and time and opportunity cost by making the analysis and trying to convince them to clean up. Suppose, gentlemen, suppose they don't.  What happens then? Well, speaking of hypotheticals is always troublesome because we can concoct the logical scenarios and hypothetical scenarios till the cows come home till the end of the day. In this situation, the position that I took was based around my assessment of being able to resolve the situation in a favorable degree. Now, if something changes and there is a clear obstinate management move that looks like there will no longer be this pathway forward, I'll probably end up exiting the position. I don't think I'll exit it at a loss. I'm sounding like you're taking a loss. I don't think I'm setting a loss. But you hope to make a gain. You hope to have an exit opportunity and things will be better at this company and make some money. This company is a small capitalization company. It's under about $500 million in equity value today. And this company should be worth, if you've played it on a fair value, a basis of discounted cash flows of its current real estate holdings, it would be worth about $750 million. And then if it has its development schedule in place and is actually realizing the overall value of its assets with a green real estate development plan, this company could be worth $2 to $4 billion. So it's a big opportunity over a multi-year period and expected to be a long term point. Have you done this kind of thing before and achieved a part of that gain and a part of that appreciation because of your own advice to a company like this? Yes. Okay, now, why are you so comfortable? So relaxed. Well, you're very kind to give me those compliments. I think, for me, it's actually living in a state of uncertainty and paranoia about what is, what could be that usual business stuff. Okay, Gordon, what about you now? We have a couple of minutes left and I'd like a similar kind of analysis from you on some investment you've made with due regard for impact investing. Well, I'm very interested at the local level on how we can solve some of the really perplexing problems. Hawaii imports $450 million worth of oil every year to generate power using diesel electric generators through a big grid. I'm interested in microgrids. You hear that, Hiko? And we believe in people like John Petrie and natural power concepts. And we're helping them to look ahead and see how they can apply their technologies from windmills, water turbines, ocean boy systems, desolination systems. We see a big future for companies like this and we're helping them to shape themselves for that market opportunity. Working with another company, which is called Solar Skyways, which would put solar panels leasing the space from the government over the roads and streets. These roadway spaces would then be given solar panels on poles, either from the center islands or the sides. And then underneath those solar panels would be little tracks on which computerized cars could be driven automatically. Computerized cars traveling from fixed bus routes, perhaps. But once you're in motion in that car, it never slows down until you get to your destination. You can also use it for overhead handling of freight. When we look at Puerto Rico and we see how devastated they were, how their power grid isn't back up yet and interesting enough under the current administration there in Puerto Rico and Washington, they're required to put the same poles back in place, the very same power infrastructure. Not a new one, not a Tesla-style battery-operated solar plant, but an old-style coal-fired power plant. So that's kind of ridiculous. And here in Hawaii, we look at that and we say, well, if we had along our riparian areas, along the river areas, the Ahupuahas, along the shorelines, instead of the roads we have, we could have solar pod cars that would zip along on these tracks and be able to move goods and equipment. And in the event we have an impending storm, we could disassemble it, stow it away, ride out the storm, afterwards put it all back in place, have a power grid, have communications, have emergency services. So that's a really important one. Food security, breadfruit could change things here on the island, a lot of things we do. We could reduce our importing of food items. We're looking at that, new entrepreneurial opportunities for local products and goods in the world market. We're looking ahead to new watercraft. I have an electric watercraft I'm introducing here in Hawaii this month, a little recreational thing for pools and rivers and outdoor calm waterways where people could ride about on this five-foot disk and enjoy themselves in an electric watercraft. And we have quite a few things we've been doing. Looking at local industries and spinning things up and finding new ways to improve the quality of life. One of the things I've been working on for years with the vision systems is how we can do wayfinding and navigation on an improved basis. As you know, GPS is kind of not working very well. And now using the camera and your smartphone, I can tell you exactly where you're standing and give you information about whatever you're looking at. Truth is we could empty out the museums by pasting all over geospatially the information, the historical material, the songs, the art, wherever you happen to be. So when you're standing at a point in Waikiki, you could see how it used to look in the turn of the century, two centuries ago. You could understand more about the environment and every tourist that comes here could hear it in their own language and then go home and become new Polynesian citizens. Steven Spielberg did something like that 20 years ago called Talking Streets. Wherever you were, you could dial a number and it would know where you were and it would give you a little radio play about where you were. And he did that in Lower East Side, I think he did it in Chicago and it created a tourist attraction for people. They would learn so much more about the neighborhood they were visiting. But these are research R&D kind of situations you're describing. And, you know, there's a long way to go for some of these ideas to actually get commercialized and you know... These are all things that are ready to get... Incorporated into the community. Where are you? Are you the key to having that happen? We are. We tend to spin things up, that's what I say. Technology is my palette of colors. As an artist, I look for places where people haven't considered how technology's impact will be felt. And there's where I see opportunity. Lots of opportunity, as you can imagine. 20 years ago I built a virtual reality city in Palo Alto, California, complete with video conferencing for people in the city, seeing each other's little avatars, games, museums, all that. So a lot of design, isn't it, Gordon? I've been ahead of the curve often. But the changes are coming faster and faster these days. Things go so fast. Are you making money? Oh yeah. Really? Money is good. And it's a reward that comes with being thoughtful, careful, considerate, and trying to do good and do well. Well, this goes to the core of our society. It's especially important now, and in the Trump administration, where we seem to be going the wrong way on so many things. So, how, take Hawaii for a minute. Are you invested in Hawaii? Not currently, no. Maybe now that you're here, you should talk to Gordon. You guys should get together. Well, his family's been here a long time. Okay, okay. Isn't that right? So, what is your advice to people on investing and otherwise supporting projects that are worthy of impact investment? Because, I mean, I'll have to say, I mean, my view is that, yes, there are people, Hither and Yon, who do and practice impact investment and who follow the principles that you've articulated, not that many. And perhaps we need more because then we could have the effect that you want to have on a macro scale. So, what's your advice? Look at the camera. It's in that direction. It's to your left, Gordon. Oh, yeah. Okay, no, it's right there. Well, okay. What's your advice to people about what they should be doing that people who are not invested, that people who understand the problem but are not invested? Become engaged and become engaged in your community. Become engaged in the world of ideas. Be creative. Think about who you are and what you are. You've been called into existence.  Here we are. And what do we do with that opportunity? You know, what is reality? What counts? It's the clouds in the sky, the water in the sea, the land in which we live, the Ina. Those are the things that are the most important things in life. Everything else in our mind is monkey business. So, when you attend a monkey business, make it count, make it reasonable. Make it something that a future progeny or future generations will look back on and you can be proud of the role you played in it. And that's my way of keeping myself going in this world is to know that despite all the Trumps and everyone like them who exist in this world, they're a minority. They're fewer all the time. And the great weight of humanity is moving towards a better world. The best for humanity is yet ahead. We're just entering a great age. And be patient and do your part. Be responsible individually. Don't buy products from corporate pigs. Don't use toxic products. Do everything you can to reduce your dependence on plastic and oil. And we'll make it a better world together. Wow. Wow, Dylan, your views. Can you top that? My view ultimately in this arena is that the spirit of competition is there to elevate us, to make us aspire to higher things for ourselves. And so ultimately human cooperation is cooperation of all life is what's occurring. And so the message that Gordon shared is a poignant one and one that I hope the viewers and the audience can take into their own lives and apply. I would only echo a few things in my own language and say that ultimately I encourage people to live with integrity and understand what it is that they want and what they're willing to do to achieve that and how much they believe in themselves is ultimately how much they believe in others and believe in the world and our capacity to realize the world that we want as a species and as the universe. What is the universe that we want to live in? So it's all available to us and investment dollars and investment of our time and energy in the world.  Okay, I'm taking out my checkbook. Thank you, great discussion. Go ahead and great discussion. My brother. My brother. All right, you guys. Thanks for having us today. Thank you so much for being here. We'll see you again soon, right? Yes.


What's going on everybody? Sam here with late in sports, Garg is ripping 22, Pne honors photo, iMac photo, obsidian and prism football hobby, six box mixture number nine random teams. There's a look again at your random results. As always you can find these on the website under the results tab, as well as the link in chat. Here we go. Start with the prism. I wish I got a payout from new era. Oh my god. It'd be like my dream dude. I should, I should get sponsored anywhere. Blue ice, Johan Dotson, new recruits to 99. Purple ice to 225, Sam Williams for the Cowboys. Carson Strong, Jake Ferguson. This game is literally just not third inning. The last time I looked at it. Silver, Mad Max, Crosby. Hyper, Nick Mangold to 175 for the Jets. Zemir White and Louis Seen. Prism break, Jamar Chase got a Navy cam out, KJ Osborne. Nice one there for it. The Vikings won a 15. That's Minnesota, Daniel Bellinger and Damon Pierce. Silver to Montay Wyatt for the Packers. Blue ice, Tyler Boyd to 99. The Bengals, Dax Hill and Erica Zucanma, EZE. I've been Neil Rookie to 49. Nice one there for the Giants. Sam Williams and K9. We got our first auto coming up here. Silver, Allie Highsmith. Marcus Allen for the Raiders on the Silver Auto. Grats on that, Vegas. Very cool. Marcus Allen. Blue Wave, Kenny Clark to 199. Packers. Romeo Dobbs, Trey Anderson, anybody? Jeremy Guthrie, Jersey. There's Cameron Hayward, Purple Ice for the Steelers. Isaiah Pacheco and Devin Lloyd. I don't have to scour either. I'm going to rock in my Royals, Jeremy. My powder blue Royals, Jeremy Guthrie, Jersey. That one was burned. Here's Kenneth Walker. Hyper, John Lynch for the Bucks to 175. Main Johnson, Vilas Jones. You've got to be one in the back of the Royals warehouse somewhere. It's collecting dust. Silver, Stefan Diggs. Second auto, Brian Cook, Cook Rook for the Chiefs. Not numbered, Silver Auto. Josh Pascal, Jacobi Durant. Orange, Bailey Zappi. Nice one there to 249. You don't have to re-gappy that, Zappi. Jaylen Tolbert, Podarian Mathis. What did you start laughing at last break? Calvin O'Roy. Amon O'Roy, Amon O'Roy. Silver, Tyler Murray. Fireworks, Orange, Marcus Mariota to 249. Ty Chandler and Sam Howell. I wish he was a little bit more hobby-relevant so he'd have more cards so we could just pull in more off things. That'd be pretty funny. Manga in the second, that'd be awesome. Silver, Jameson Williams, Emergent. Blue Wave, Devin Singletary to 199 for the Bills. Bailey Zappi and Isaiah Lloyd. Shersy or Shersy do I wear out in public the most? Probably my Didi Gregorius, I would say, like my Yankees one. Only if Sam loses the hat. Well you won't see me next time I'm breaking. You won't see me with this hat for another like probably two and a half months would be my guess is next time I'll wear this again. Maybe more. Justin Herbert. Sam Williams, Purple Ice to 225. John Mechie and Kway Walker for 5K. That's awesome. See if Shane can call the manga in the second box here. Garrett Wilson, Fireworks Rookie. Blue Wave, Trent McDuffie to 199. Trent McDuffie and George Pickens. I'm just showing my remorse to those poor Philly's fans about the 2009 World Series. That's all I'm saying. Be like, hey you know what? Sorry we smoked you. Here's how I'm going to make it up to you.  Nico Collins. Orange, Dallas Goddard to 249. Pierce and Andrew Booth. You poor saps. Silver to Kobe Durant Rookie. From Power, Nelson Aguilore. The new Raven to 49. Don't know I feel that. 29 and 49. Boye Mafe, Tyler Alger. You should feel amazing. Silver Eli Mitchell. Here's Ryan Tannihill. Silver Otto for the Titans. Tanny. There's a little, is that a dimple on there? Yeah, that's a dimple up in the top left. We'll send an empty box and wrapper with the Titans. Malik Willis. Eagles Great Nelson Aguilore. Eagles Legend Nelson Aguilore. Oh yeah. Raiders Legend Nelson Aguilore. Silver TJ Watt. You're going to have a long drive. It's Jamar Chase to 99. I know. Desmond Ritter. Greg Dulsich. You could play Jeremy Guffrey's Highlights. I probably will. I probably have to play that about a thousand times on an hour drive. Because it's only like 10 seconds old. Yeah. Cheylin Waddle. There's Orange Wave Buddha Baker to 60. Cardinals. Jeremy Rucker at James Cove. Here's a what? A national. Was he? Said it on Wikipedia. Oh, wow. That's weird. There's Damien Pierce. Orange Zay Jones to 249. Abakite. Sauce Gardener. Yeah, I think I fold one, two. Two, I think. One or two. I don't remember 100%. Two Finites. One or two Mangas. Purple little Tony Pollard to 125 for the Cowboys. Kyle Hamilton and Nikobi Dean. Silver Jerry Judy. There's K-Bon Tibido 18 of 25 on the Camo Auto. Nice one there, Giants. Grads on that. New York. Nick Bonito and Montrell Washington. Silver Drake London Rookie. Purple Ice, Barry Sanders to 225. Kyle Phillips. And Wandaille Robinson. Silver Alec Pierce. Navy Camo. John Lynch for the Buccaneers. Nice one there. 21 of 25. Going for that. John Lynch, Rainbow. Christian Watson. Jordan Davis. All right, so I'll do it for Prism. We're on to Obsidian now. 2022 Obsidian. It's the Von Diggs. Orange to 75. For the Bill, Supernova. Devante Adams. 21 of 99. That's the Von Diggs. 33 of 75 is Jalen Hertz. Two-color, one-color, two-color. Tri-fectum material. 85 of 99. Arnold Abakite for the Falcons. Nice one there, Atlanta. Six of 10. Nick Chubb, Magnetic Auto for the Browns. And 24 of 25. Mr. Brandon Cooks to 25. Two-color, Patch Auto. Nice one there, Texans. The enclosed player worn slash used material and autograph are guaranteed by Panini America. The autograph is guaranteed by Panini America. So nice that I tell you twice. Second Obsidian. You think it's guaranteed by Panini America? I have to imagine it is. They had to reiterate it multiple times. I'm one card, yes. I sure hope it is. I'm starting to think it's not. It sounds something awful a lot like someone who wasn't guaranteed would say. Got a Jermaine Johnson to 100. For the Jets and Volcanic. Volcanic's George Kittle, 46 of 99. For the Niners. Samurai Toray Rookie. 28 of 125. T. Higgins. That is atomic material. Got 42 of 125. James Cook for the Bills. 400 points. Going to be random to all at the end. And nice one here. 50 of 50. Bailey Zappy. Two-colored RPA for the Patriots. Congrats New England. Two-colored RPA. All right, we've got iMac Foto. We'll do iMac Foto first, and then we'll go into honors first off the line. So iMac Foto, there's your sticker. I like photos. You haven't heard that one yet? No. Oh, that's like a classic now. Me and Donnie say that all the time. We want to get a, we want to have Halle make us like a share of the cartoon turtle. We'll get first off the line sticker on it. Yeah. I like photos. I like photos. That's actually really good. Right? She came up with that. Solid. This guy. Didn't at all tell him. I mean most of them are good. Yeah, I'm most of them. Except for Benedict. That one's funny, dude. That one's bad. That one's stretching it. We've got Carson Wentz. That is 13 out of 23. Like the foiling I see on that. It's going to be a Danny Gray, one of 10. What's up, Jacob? Two-colored Apache for the Niners. We've got seven of 85. George Kittle. Rory. I don't want to hear it anymore. I don't want to hear it anymore. That's nasty. That is gross. That's nasty. That is disgusting, dude. That's awesome, dude. Got Jake with me. That's awesome. How about one of one? Drake London. Rookie helmet. Let's go Rory with the Falcons. There you go, man. That's awesome. That's so sick. Forrest did not come up with that. I don't care. Forrest, I don't think Forrest said he came up with that. I don't believe that. Let's go. That's nasty. One of one, Drake London for the Falcons. Get that magged, of course. Got 43 of 49. That's awesome. Nasty. It is going to be Josh Jacobs. For the Raiders, he's going to mag that one, too. That's so sick. He's got this team. Going to Jared S. How about A11 out of 18? First off, the line exclusive RPA, Matt Corral. Part of that Panthers logo on it. That's sweet, dude. The Rory goes mouth is shut. Let's go, dude. Awesome cards coming out of there. Awesome, awesome cards. All right, we've got A. Let's see really quick here.  It's going to be A. First off the line, honors. Honors, photo. Photo. No, we're not close tomorrow.  He absolutely killed it. Nice. Desmond Ritter. That is 60 out of 75 for the Falcons. And Purple Alvin Kamara, 8 of 12 for the Saints. First off the line exclusive Purple Kenneth Walker, 7 of 15. Nice, Jacob. That's awesome, dude. And going back to Jared S. How about a one-of-one buyback? CMC on a 2017 Prism Orange. One-of-one Christian McCaffery. A bit of Panthers. That's awesome, dude. That's so freaking cool. Nice one there. Great, great. Again, we got some points random to do really quick. 400. All right, guys. Going to roll the dice. Whatever team is on top after eight times. Look at the points. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight. Going to the Steelers. Steelers get in the points. Congrats, Pittsburgh. And eight times. Steelers on top. Let's do a recap. That was fun, dude. These are awesome. These mixers are the best. James Cook. T. Higgins. George Kittle. Jalen Hertz. Danny Gray. Got autos. Ryan Tannehill. Marcus Allen. Brian Cook. Arnold Imkite. Bailey Zappy. Josh Jacobs. K. Von Tibbeto. Brandon Cooks. And Nick Chubb. Mags Cards. We had a Matt Corral, 11 out of 18 for the Panthers. We had a Kenneth Walker, 7 of 15 for the Seahawks. We had a CMC, one of one on an Orange, 2017 Prism Rookie for the Panthers. And a one of one Drake London Rookie Helmet American Flag. That'll do it for the break, guys. Thanks again for the fill. Next up, we've got Stadium Club.


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