Hey, Bolo Buddies, thanks for watching. Okay. I have a bread and butter Bolo video for you guys items that I bought low and sold for $35 or less on eBay. These items I picked up at garage sales, estate sales, thrift sales Man, I can't talk. Sales. I'm gonna tell you where I got it, what I paid for it, and what it sold for. All right, we're just gonna dig right in, get into some Bolo's and leave me a comment. Be sure to like, comment, subscribe, and share, and let's get on with the first Bolo. All right. Screenshare, what am I doing? All right, here we go. Okay, the first item is, let me just, yes, it is up. Okay, now this came out of my mystery box from Auctions for You, the $100 box that I bought. And if you guys missed that video, you definitely need to go watch it because it was amazing. I loved it. You guys know I love toys. All right, so this is a vintage Dragon Riders of the Styx Ragnar action figure and his leg is broke guys. It's there, but it is broken. It cannot be repaired and I kind of show that here. It's literally cracked. But people will still buy these items for parts. So don't dismiss it and toss it because somebody needs that item. This is a harder to find toy and I sold this for $15 plus shipping and it sold super fast. So definitely be on the lookout for this guy because who knows what he sells for if he's in good condition because he sold for 15 bucks in poor condition. He's got some paint loss. Yeah, he's, I mean, he's not in great condition. He's been played with. So some scuffs, some marks. Let me zoom in here for you guys. So, yeah, pretty exciting about, pretty excited about that one. And you can see he is made in Hong Kong on the side. So I knew when I saw him, he was pretty cool. But I didn't think he would sell that quickly. So really excited about that. The next item I sold is this vintage paperweight hippo. I picked this up at a thrift store and I paid $2 for it and it was a day I was at the thrift store and I was kind of like, okay, all as I'm selling this toys, I need to pick up some different things or my subscribers and viewers are going to be like, oh, she sells his toys. So I picked up this hippo and Surprisingly, it sold super fast and I sold it for $20 best offer in the buyer page shipping. The next item I sold is these chicken little friends books. And I almost did not list these because I knew they were a major bread and butter, but I was trying to recoup some of my money out of a mystery box. So I just went ahead and listed them real quick and they sold, I Wouldn't say super fast, but at a decent rate and I took a best offer on those for $7 in the buyer page shipping. The next item I sold is this vintage. I think it's vintage. I didn't put vintage in the title. So maybe it's not, but it's a Disney Winnie the Pooh PVC figure and I got this at the Benz. So this is in one of my Benz video. I think it's actually on my new channel sourcing with Bolo Buddies. I did a video over there. So if you guys want to check that out, dig in through the Benz. That's when you pay for items by weight and this little guy doesn't weigh much and I was either going to lot it with other toys or I was going to comp it out and see kind of what they were selling for. Typically, if I can sell a mini figure for $10 or more, I'll go ahead and list it separately just because I enjoy toys and they're quick and easy to list. I did take a best offer of $9 on this in the buyer page shipping. So that's still what a $7 or $8 profit when it's all said and done. I mean, that's that's great for okay, worst-case scenario, 10 minutes and that includes like sourcing the item, listing it, pictures, everything, eight bucks for 10 minutes of my time. I mean, yeah, that's awesome. Now, would it be better to get $30 for eight minutes of or would I say five minutes, 10 minutes of my time? Yeah, most definitely, but you know, bread and butter's okay with me. All right, the next item also came out of that box from Auctions for you. And again, this is a pre-owned vintage toy. Look at his nose. Look at his eyebrow. He's got paint loss. He's got issues. I went ahead and did an auction on him because I really wasn't sure how to price him. There were not a whole lot of comps and I knew he was good, but I knew he was not in great shape. So I just went ahead and did an auction. I started it at $29.99 and I just disclosed that it had issues and it ended up selling for $30.99 and the buyer paid shipping. The next item I sold is this Star Wars Galactic Heroes Taunton Play School Heroes. So it's like some sort of dragon. I'm not super familiar with Star Wars. I think I did Google Lens on this and I took a best offer of $10 and the buyer paid the shipping and I think this came from a garage sale and I believe it was 50 cents if I remember correctly. The next item I sold is this Vintage Boy Scouts of America cookbook. Now, this isn't ephemera item. It did take a long time to sell. I took a best offer of $7 on this. The buyer paid the shipping. I picked this up at a garage sale and it wasn't much. So I think that's one thing about ephemera that I'm not a big fan of is how long it takes to sell and with ephemera it's like definitely hit and miss. Like it's either like a big money bolo that sells fast or you're sitting on it a long time waiting for the right buyer. But that's kind of the same with jewelry. If you have the right items, then they move and if you don't then they sit. But this took a long time to sell. So I will say that but I had next to nothing in it. So good margins. The next item I sold is this Play School Dollhouse Doctor and he came from a garage sale with a huge lot of like Play School items and I sold him for That's odd. I might have put one in the wrong order. Did I miss one? No. Hmm. Maybe I accidentally closed out the tab. Okay, so this guy sold for $15. I have an elbow itch. What a weird place to have an itch. $15 in the buyer paid shipping and you guys know I like to sell dollhouse furniture. It's quick and easy and toys quick and easy. Many figures. I also sold this baby who is also from the Fisher Price Loving Family line and I sold her for $13.50 and the buyer paid shipping. The next item I sold is this Ann Taylor Broach and I'm going to give a shout-out to Jersey Gypsy Corner Store. That's her eBay store name. She bought this from me. She's a subscriber viewer and I appreciate her very much and she bought this piece for her mom. It's an Ann Taylor Broach pin and I took a best offer of $25 and the buyer paid shipping. The next item I sold is this Veggie Tales Bob the Tomato Plush and I sold this for $15. I picked it up in a garage sale with a lot of Veggie Tales items and I probably had a buck in it. The next item I sold is this very very cool vintage stick pin. So it's a hand and it's holding like a little charm. It's pretty cool and this piece of felt came with the jewelry. So I'm like, well, I'm just going to stick the pin in there. I don't know. Maybe you can see it better on the white. Maybe I should have used the white now that I'm looking at it. I thought the red looked cool at the time. What do you guys think white or red? Red or white? I ended up taking a best offer of $30 for this and I got this in a At a garage sale with some other jewelry. So I didn't have very much in it. I would say maybe 10 15 cents I don't know 25 cents something like that The next item I sold are these vintage Fisher Price Horses again Not in great condition, but they are vintage and they're a harder to find item. These also sold very quickly. I took, nope, they sold for asking price of $15 and they are from the Great Adventures Wild Western Town Fisher Price and This also came out of the mystery box from Auctions for You. It was a great box you guys. You should definitely go watch that video The 1991 applause Barbie collector doll. This is a limited Special limited edition never removed from the box. Here she is. She's in this fancy dress with all that tool And I took a best offer of $15 on this and got it at a garage sale for three now This one is not a super sought-after Barbie So I just went ahead and priced it accordingly The next item I got is this vintage Littlest Pet Shop Bay Tobens second Nuzzle Time nursery Get off there. Okay, so I Looked this up and I was pleasantly surprised with the comps on it So I went ahead and took the time to list it and I sold it for $15 It came out of a mystery box and the buyer paid shipping The next item I sold is this Fisher Price Sweet Streets Dollhouse Pet Dish for a cat or And then it says for the Parlor Salon So this one I remember I had a hard time finding it, but I finally found a comp And I wasn't really looking for a comp per se to know how to list it price-wise I more wanted to know which place said it came from and I finally found it I took a best offer of $7 and the buyer paid shipping and I had pennies in that. It was just in a bulk lot The next item I sold is this Nobles Better handwriting for everyone. It's 1962 education workbook and it is unused I sold this for $14.99 and the buyer paid shipping and I picked this up at a garage sale And I just picked up I think three or four of them In one of my other videos or it might be this one. I sold another one recently also The next item is this Tyco Sesame Street juice factory And if you follow my channel, there was a train that I sold a Sesame Street train And that train was a part of this set So this came in a mystery box and I was missing certain items that went with the whole play set So I decided to part it out. I sold the train already and now I have the juice factory And then there's a whole bunch of other items like the track and Other pieces of the train replacement pieces and stuff like that that are listed separately I ended up taking a best offer of $10 and 75 cents for this and the buyer paid shipping the next item is this present pets glitter puppy interactive plush pet and As you can see I have a video in my description if you want to learn how to do that on my YouTube channel you can search add a video to your listing and I show you step-by-step how to add a video now why this is great is Somebody can then go click on the item and they're going to see how the item works And it's also going to prove that the item works I thought that it had a cosmetic defect here on its head but I later found out that You know how when you get a toy and you have to pull the battery thing to make it work like the little strip and it like Releases the plastic from where the battery Connects and then it makes it work. So this thing comes inside of a box and it breaks out of the box I watched a YouTube video on it. So this is the little area where that strip is So I guess they all are gonna have that But I disclosed it as a defect because I didn't know at the time and I Mean it's not super noticeable, but to me that's noticeable. So I disclosed it either way. I'm safe I sold this pretty quickly for $22. I picked it up in a thrift haul for seven dollars And one of the reasons I wanted to get this is because I wanted to put it on my new channel reseller testing products so I Do have a thrift haul video where I picked this up that is on my sourcing with Bolo buddies YouTube channel If you want to check out what else I bought the next item I sold is this vintage leather punch It's a six-hole rotating head and spring-loaded handles now. It is a little bit. I don't want to say rusty, but Maybe rusty, but it's smooth if that makes sense And I purchased this out of a Dibble box from Donatella bottlino a Dibble box is a reseller box It's a double bit of this and a double bit of that and This one item sold for $15 and the buyer paid shipping The next item I sold is this Lego Bionicle and I purchased a bunch of Bionicles and a bulk lot and I sold this one for $24 and the buyer paid shipping The next item I sold is this vintage Polish legion snapback trucker's hat and this came from a garage sale and there's a little defect right there and Yeah, it's not very noticeable this is when I wish I had fake nails Goodness I keep them short because I am digging through mystery boxes So this hat I paid about 50 cents for I think it was like an estate garage sale if I remember correctly and I sold this for $26 and 24 cents The next item I sold is this vintage 1983 war duke advanced Dungeons and Dragons action figure this also came out of my auctions for you lot my vintage box and Again, that box was amazing I sold this for $24 and the buyer paid shipping. So I think just in this video I've already almost made my money back and this box was loaded. So In the video, I actually show you every listing that I got out of the box Like I pop up screen shares and then I also show you the solds everything that had sold so far at the time of the video So it's a great learning tool. It's not just an unboxing. So definitely go check that out I spent a lot of time on that video because I listed everything so that I could show you guys the whole box I think there were like a handful of things that I donated. It wasn't much The next item that I sold is this King Kong 18 inch gorilla poseable action figure I got this at a garage sale for $5 and I took a best offer of $28 and 50 cents for this And I do believe this one went internationally, but he is a big guy The next item I sold is this Eric Carl. I think it is Carlisle, maybe not sure. It's from the guy who what is that book like brown bear and Then he has real like Fancy pictures I've sold his books before There's also board games that he are by him, but he's an artist. He's a really neat artist I don't know if it's on the back of the No, it's not shucks I should have had something pulled up to show you guys because he is he's got some really neat stuff But this cheetah sold for $12 and 75 cents and the buyer paid shipping and I believe that was a garage sale fine for like 50 cents The next item is this little Moana pig from the show Moana. I think the pigs name is Pua. I Don't know if I'm saying that right or not But it's a little cake topper deal it's got this little slot in the bottom I'm not sure what that's for. I don't know if it goes to something or not But this sold for $7 and 50 cents This was another item that I picked up at the bins and this sold pretty quickly and the buyer paid shipping All right, you guys 27 Bolo items items to be on the lookout for items that you can buy Low and sell for decent margins and these I would say are easier to find items Alright, thanks for being here. Thanks for watching. Be sure to like comment subscribe and share. Thanks for watching


all be on a route without steps from a public way. Please note that this is not the same as an accessible route as defined in 521 CMR or the ADA. B. All doors on the above route, including the unit entry door shall be 36 inches wide. 32 inch minimum clear width. C. All unit interior doors except closet doors on the entry level shall be 36 inches wide. 32 inches minimum clear width. D. On the unit entry level, there should be a clear path to a full or half bathroom. And B. The living room and dining area of the unit. Such a full or half bathroom shall provide maneuverability clearances, including access to fixtures in accordance with either A. The fair housing act design manual or B. Group one bathrooms as defined by 521 CMR. 73. The building will be required to be completed. Modifications proposed to the plan of record shall be submitted to the ZBA for its review and approval prior to the work taking place except as otherwise provided. 74. Unless otherwise allowed by the building commissioner, the use of low flow plumbing fixtures in residential units and non residential spaces will be required. 75. The interior of the building shall be smoke free non smoking designated outdoor smoking area, including bench shall be provided as shown on the plan of record. 76. Mechanical equipment, trash recycling and other site equipment shall be screened from the public view with a continuous fence or plantings as shown on the plan of record. 77. Any mechanical equipment located on any roof shall be screened and noise muffled. 78. Parking shall be enforced and managed in accordance with the parking management plan. 79. The building shall be serviced by a fully operational elevator and be fully ADA compliant. 80. The building including all confined spaces shall have code compliant sprinklers and a fire suppression system. 81. All windows and residential units shall be operable to open and close, but no window air conditioning unit shall be allowed as it is equipped with central air conditioning, including temperature controls in each individual apartment. 82. The project shall be served by municipal sewer and water at the applicant's sole expense in accordance with the public works requirements. 83. All onsite water and sewer infrastructure for the project shall be constructed and fully operational prior to the issuance of the first occupancy permit for the project. The applicant shall be responsible for all costs including permit fees, application fees associated with this work. 84. The project shall connect to the town of Amherst water and sewer infrastructure as shown on the plan of record. All water and sewer construction and materials shall be in accordance with the town of Amherst requirements. This comprehensive permit includes the approval for the water and sewer connection permits provided that as an administrative matter, the applicant's contractor will apply for and obtain water and sewer connection permits from the town of Amherst which shall not be unreasonably withheld. The applicant shall present all details of any water and sewer connection to public works for confirmation by public works that all details satisfy all local connection technical requirements. Contractors shall be duly licensed and required by the town of Amherst. All such work shall be performed in accordance with current engineering and construction standards. The applicant shall be responsible for all costs including permit fees, applications fees which are associated with this work. 85. The project includes demolition of the existing structure as shown on the demolition plan included in the plan of record. This comprehensive permit includes the approval for the local demolition permits. Contractors shall be duly licensed as required by the town of Amherst. All such work shall be performed in accordance with current engineering and construction standards. 86. The applicant shall work with the fire department to provide Knox box access to the building. 87. Inspectional services shall have the responsibility for assigning address and unit numbers. 88. Public works shall have the responsibility of reviewing and issuing any excavation permits and the permit shall not be unreasonably withheld. 89. The applicant shall present the details for any and all proposed fuel storage to the fire department and obtain its local approval which shall not be unreasonably withheld. 90. The town, by and through the ZBA or its designee shall have continuing jurisdiction over the project to ensure compliance with the terms and conditions of this decision. Thank you. Thank you. So under I, it seems to be the 72 D needs to be tailored to this actual project. This looks like it's contemplates units that have dining living rooms, half baths and full baths. I just think it can probably be tailored to single an SRO going forward. I think 77 is a duplicate of the earlier discussion we had about mechanical equipment located on the right. The roof should be screened and noise muffled. So I think that can be removed. We've talked about the need for a parking plan. Number 78. I don't have any other. Although I, is it inspectional services or inspection services? Yeah, it's a little one. Something I noticed. I believe it's, let's see here, sorry. It would be eight. 87, 88 and 89. Or no, 80. It's 82, 83 and 84. Sorry. Yep. I believe that those three. Conditions were previously. Listed under the storm water conditions. So. I'll definitely, I'll obviously double check that, but I think that's, um, was previously listed. Yeah, it seems like there's, yeah, make sure that there's no, we don't accidentally lose something, but I think you're right. Any other comments from the board? Mr. Langsdale. Um, on 75, uh, the entire interior of the building shall be smoked free non-smoking designated outdoor smoking or including bench shall be provided shown on the plan of record. Um, I think we just need to add there the, uh, side barriers that they have proposed. Um, and the, I don't know what you call it. The thing you put your cigarette butts in. The smoking earn. Yeah, it's just not, it just needs to be added. Yeah. And we can reference the, the, um, The plans you gave us today. Yeah. Okay. All right. No other. Yes, Miss Baker. Um, just a note on number 84, it says this comprehensive permit includes the approval for the water and sewer connection permits. So just looking for consistency and clarity about. Um, Are those permits approved? Are they not approved? At what point are they approved? Cause it's, it's. We just want to be clear. I'm. Are you saying that there's a, um, Structural problem in this or is it just that it's, it's, um, Not clear. There are lots of other references in this document to the need to, to apply for and be approved for water and sewer connection permits. Um, Attorney Whitten, could you, um, address that? Sure. Um, Mr. Chairman, Sue, uh, Maureen and I and the building commissioner, uh, and the DPW director had a conversation, uh, earlier today. And I think our takeaway, our, our recommendation is that the board approve the access to water and sewer and sewer connections. And that would mean that the department would be able to provide the materials and fees associated with permits be. Issued and controlled by the department of public works. Make sense to me. Okay. Let's make sure that that's clear. If you combine these with the earlier references to this, just make, we'll make sure that that's clear in those conditions. Okay. All right. Let's move on to additional possible conditions. So, I think that the ownership of the property shall require the new owners to submit a management plan, supportive services plan, and a financial pro forma to the ZBA for approval at a public hearing. 92 require the service provider to offer each tenant that it follows. A six and 12 month follow up. 93 tenant selection plan finalized before certificate of public meeting prior to certificate of occupancy. So for these, I'm responsible for these. And so I'll just, I'll just take, I'll take blame for them. But this, number one, if the property does change, you've got to come back to us at some point. And the three most important plans management, supportive services and financial pro forma should be part of that. The follow up is that in your, your services plan, you talk about, you ideally like to have a six or 12 month follow up to somebody who's been provided services. Nobody wants to require that services be provided for people who don't want it, but just to be offering of those services that we have in your mind that you want to, that you are the service provider offers six or 12 month follow up. So that's the goal there. Maybe it could be stated differently. Yes. Ms. Baker. So to clarify, we're talking about folks who are moving from a homeless situation into housing. And that there would be the stabilization period. So it won't apply necessarily to all of the tenants in the property. So we can work on just tightening it up a little bit. The definitions. The goal is just for that previously homeless population. Okay. And the goal is to offer not to mandate. We're just talking to. And 93. I'm not sure that the, I think we should see the tenant selection plan. I don't know when that comes up, but I would like to see that at the ZBA before building. Such a significant of occupancies offered. Sure. Mr. Langsdale, we want to take on 94 drainage. All parking areas shall be designed and constructed to prevent stormwater drainage from leaving the project site. All stormwater runoff shall be directed to the stormwater drainage system for treatment and attenuation. 95. Any substantial changes from the preliminary drainage plan that is approved as part of the plan of record shall be reviewed and approved by the ZBA. Any comments? Questions. These conditions could be redundant. Yeah. So I'll. Well, let's work to see if we can. Put them with the others. Yeah. You're doing so great. I'm going to have you continue on filling of land. Okay. Filling of land. Number 96. 5.100. No slope created by the filling operation shall be finished at a grade in excess of the natural angle of repose of the materials. 97. 5.101. All filled areas, which are not to be built upon within one year. Upon shall upon completion of the operation be covered with not less than four inches of loam. Brought to the finished grade seated and mulched in a satisfactory manner. 98. 5.102. No permit for the filling of land shall be issued of such filling will one endanger public health or safety. To constitute a new plan. 3 result in detriment to the normal use of the adjacent property. 4 cause significant erosion or sedimentation due to improper drainage design or management. Or 5 result in traffic hazards in residential areas or excessive congestion or physical damage on public ways. Number 99. 5.103. Endangered public health or safety to constitute a nuisance. 3 result in detriment to the normal use of the adjacent property. 5.103. In granting a permit for such an accessory use. Special permit granting authority may impose reasonable requirements on grading seating and planting. Barriers needed for public safety, control of erosion and drainage and other appropriate aspects of the use. 100. 5.104. The special permit granting authority may require a suitable performance bond. It may also require a facility adequate to ensure satisfactory compliance with provisions of this section. 101. If the applicant proposes to substantial changes are proposed to the cut fill analysis, the applicant shall return to the board for review and approval at a public meeting. One question I have is how does the suitable performance bond work? I don't know. I think that was required earlier. And perhaps attorney Whitten, you can. Educate me on that. So I'm not sure, Mr. chairman, how the board has, has done this in the past. And I don't know the history of that language. The difference typically is. The surety bond is to guarantee or provide coverage. And I don't know if it's a public road or underground utilities or something like that. A performance bond is tied to the completion of the project. So in this case, I think it's more a surety. For any impact on, on the public way. As opposed to a relevance on the performance. Yeah. All right. I'm not sure that that is my. Hear your reason for it. I'm not sure that I. I'm not sure that that is needed. We may have more belt and suspenders, but. Typically, you know, typically what we do is say that must be, you must have. Significant. Action or, or, or progress on a project within a certain period of time. I'm not concerned that this is not going to happen or that they're not going to pursue it. Figurously. Miss Baker. We don't typically, we're not typically asked by municipalities to provide performance or sureties or bonds. The board should know that we require the general contractor to provide 100% performance and payment bonds. And that there are many layers of public review and. People watching and inspecting. On number 98. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Um, Felicity raised with me the issue of it. It basically references a permit. And so I think when we, when we name this as a waiver, the waiver that we're asking for is a waiver from. Unseparate permit to allow for the filling that we've proposed. And what. What waiver is that? Billings. It's in the table of waivers. Yeah, I'm looking at that now. I'm trying to find it. And we do respect the. Do it. We don't know. On the first page. All right. So we want to coordinate that. That was 5.10. Okay. Yeah, Mr. Chair. After reading. Uh, condition 103. I think that is, um, that. I don't think that is, um, I don't think that's a, uh, a possible condition for consideration. The no permit for filling of land. Yeah. Yeah. That is number 98 or not. Yeah. Sorry. That came from an earlier project. Huh. Okay, actually a section within the it's it's a subsection of of filling of land section. Okay. The other references where you see 5.01, 5.100, 5.101, 102, those are I that was just cutting and pasting from that section and the other the other ones there listed seem you know reasonable conditions and I guess I should have just not have included that one 98 Okay, I don't see anybody objecting to taking that out. Oh, Ms. Breistrup. Oh, I wouldn't object to take that out, but I just wanted to say that maybe Maureen and I could talk to the building commissioner tomorrow about that suitable performance bond for filling because if you have a Project as a whole, you don't really need a bond for filling this was written in case filling was occurring by itself. So we'll come up with some language that's better for that one. Great. You know, I think we're going to make it to the end of these and we're going to go until we do and we're going to beat 915 I think Alright, planning board recommends planning board recommendations number 102 consider raising the white band on the facade that separates the stone and siding so that it is closer to the bottom of the window closer to the first floor level 103 confirmed that the lighting is dark sky compliant and does not cast light onto adjacent properties while making sure the level of light on the property is safe and appropriate 104 consider increasing the amount of screening around the smoking pavilion to minimize the view to the structure from offsite and 105 keep air intake for the building heating and cooling system away from the smoking area. It seems to me that 102 is already included in your plan so that we don't have to condition as a plan and unless you change your plan, but we'll see those number two. I think we've done a lot of dark sky compliant already and I don't know that we need to do it here as well. So I think we can take away numbers 103 I think you've taken care of 104 by already having screening in it. And 105 it seems that you've moved away from the heating and cooling system in the smoking pavilion. So I don't know that that one is needed either. Are there any other comments or any other conditions that people. Yes, Miss Pollock one condition that comes to mind that typically the board includes is Start thinking about, you know, how long would you like the construction to last for from the issuance of the building permit. Yeah, we'd have to give How long it has to be completed completed by date. Yeah. So that's You talked about that a date, Miss Baker that was a construction period that would be up to 18 months. Is that right. Are you comfortable with You usually condition building period or were you talking more in about from the time the zoning permit is issued until you pull the building permit. Three year window From the issuance of the building permit until construction is complete. Correct. I'd be more comfortable saying 24 months, but I don't think it will take that long. It just We're going to go as fast as we can. Everybody will It's just hard to know Other Yes, Miss Lefler Depending on the start date of construction That window will expand or contract given cold weather season. So that that can be highly variable in terms of the long big picture timeframe. Typically what I what I've seen the board do in the past. And again, we're not ruled by precedent, but what I've seen the board do in the past is try to find a length of time that you're comfortable with That a realistic timeframe. If everything goes well is one thing you plus that up a little bit to give you a little more time. And so what I would like you to do is to give some thought to that. Come back. Meet with a staff when we come back with the conditions 24 months sounds good, but give us in thought if it's more than you need it. I wouldn't I wouldn't go for it. Go for what what you need. Plus it up a little bit more, but not a lot more. Yeah, because we don't want to raise the specter of this being out. There's a construction, an active construction site for longer than it is for the neighbors and for everybody else. So you have to balance that. Yeah. Any other conditions that we that people would like to discuss or have drafted for discussion in two weeks. I noticed one thing is that you were going to provide another set of plans that we'll be able to reference. Will that be ready in two weeks. Yes, it should be so we wanted to just really package together all the original plans with any revised plans with any supplements we've given a lot of kind of detail drawings during the PowerPoints. So to bundle it all together so it's all in one place. That's our goal. And the other reason is that we need to be able to reference sheets and specific drawings with their numbers, their dates, the modifications to write the decision. And I would prefer that we have all that before the board and not have it later after the decision is written and have it now. So we have everything that we're making every decision all at once. Yeah. Okay. So then I guess what I'd like to do for two weeks is have the conditions, the waiver. And the conditions of waiver and the findings informed for the whole board to look at. I'd like to have that. Ideally for me, I'd like to have that on Saturday by, you know, close a business the Friday before the meeting. So that those people who work can have the weekend to look at this and spend some time. And then, you know, I would like to have that on Saturday. So that ideally for me, I'd like to have that on Saturday by, you know, close a business the Friday before the meeting so that those people who work can have the weekend to look at this and spend some time. And then, and that be substantially done, have something by that time for us. So that gives you about 10 days to put it together and gives us about four days, five days to look at it. That's my, that's my hope. Is that possible. If not, we'll move it back three weeks, but I'm, I don't want to have the board given information, you know, just a couple and not that anybody means to it's just, it's a big job, but I don't want the board to get information at the last minute, just because there's so much to do. So if we can do it in two weeks, I'd like to do it in two weeks. If we can't do it in two weeks, we'll do it in three, but as soon as we get this thing done as soon as you and as soon we've all done it as soon as we make these decisions, the better. So from the applicant's perspective, that's fine. We're prepared to push on this we're available. I feel like a lot of the workload at this moment in time is falling with the town staff so I don't, I don't want to speak for them. We'd love to be come back in two weeks as opposed to three and Christine, you think we can do it in two weeks. I think, I think that's a reasonable deadline two weeks opposed to one week so I'm looking at a calendar in front of me so today's day is the 15th. So staff can aka aka me can submit everything would be updated waiver request and possible conditions and findings by October the 30th 30 October the 23rd sorry. We should have done written and rub Mara in that decision so right if they have a problem with that they should let us know. No I'd be happy to comply Mr Chairman and if I could Mr Chairman Maureen, you know let's talk and we can move it as quickly as possible I don't think that's a problem at all. Good. Mr more.  Can you. No problem. No problem with us. Great. I love it. It is 914 and we did it. So that's great. All right. So, that's the plan we'll meet again in two weeks. We do not have time for public comment tonight. What we will do is have time for public comment early in the meeting in two weeks, where we'll allow and will allow public comment on the conditions of findings and the waivers. And that will be the, we'll try to do that early. I'll work on an agenda but that has it early before we make any decisions and any votes. So we will have public comment in two weeks. Well that meeting six or 630. I think Miss America you do six. Six o'clock. All right, it's going to be at six. If there are no other questions. Yes. Mr Maxwell. I was going to say, we, are we sold on six because I know six 30 works better for me. I typically have a board license commission from starting at five. We'll go to a little after six. And, okay. Well, that's the point to take in Mr Langsdale. I also, I'll be working that day. I also would prefer 630. Okay. That means we go to 930. No. We just have to be a little faster. All right. So we'll do it 630. In two weeks. So, I move that we continue the public hearing on this matter until October 29 at 630. Is that the right date Marine? Yep, I think so. October 29. Is there a second. Second. Is there any discussion. If none of the vote occurs on the motion. And this is a roll call vote. Mr judge. I vote aye. Mr Langsdale. Aye. So mirror. Aye. This is parks. Aye. Mr Maxfield. Aye. Motion is passes voters unanimous. The next order of business is general public comments on matters not before the board tonight. I see we have one attendee. And I don't see any hands raised. Give it just a second. All right. There seems to be no member of the public that wishes to speak on a motion on matters not own. Speak on matters that are not before the board tonight. That being said, the last order of business is to adjourn until October 29. Do I have a motion that we adjourn this meeting? Yes. Is there a second. Second. Is there any discussion on the motion to adjourn? I guess there never is discussion. Actually, there should never be discussion on the motion to adjourn this non discussable motion. Roll call. This is a roll call vote. I vote aye. Mr Langsdale. Aye. Is there a mirror. Aye. Ms parks. Aye. Mr Maxfield. Aye. Thank you all. Motion carries. It's unanimous. Thank you all for the hard work for the long time and for.


from downtown San Francisco. It's theCUBE, covering IBM Chief Data Officer Strategy Summit 2018, brought to you by IBM. Welcome back to San Francisco, everybody. You're watching theCUBE, the leader in live tech coverage. We're covering the IBM Chief Data Officer Strategy Summit, hashtag IBM CDO Ed Walsh is here. He's the general manager of IBM Snorage. Stephen E. Luke, who's the Vice President of Deep Learning and the Global Chief Data Office at IBM, Stephen. Yes, sir. Good to see you again, welcome to theCUBE. So this is a great story. We heard into Paul Bandari this morning talk about the Enterprise Data Blueprint and laying out to the practitioners how to get started, how to implement, and we're going to have a little case study as to actually how you're doing this. But Ed, set it up for us. Okay, so we're at this Chief Data Officer Summit in the spring, we do it twice a year and really get just Chief Data Officers together to think through their different challenges and actually share. So that's what we're at this summit. And what we've, as IBM has kind of tried to be a foot forward, be the cognitive enterprise and being, and showing very transparently what we're doing in our organization to be more data driven. And we've talked a bunch of different times. Everyone needs to be data driven, everyone wants to be data driven, but it does, it's really challenging for organizations. So what we're doing is with this blueprint, which we're showing as a showcase, in fact you can do, you can actually physically come in and see our environment, but more importantly, we're being very transparent on all different components, high level processes, what we did in governance, but also down to the really technology level and sharing that with our, not because they want to do all of it, but maybe they want to do some of it or half of it, but it would be a blueprint that's worked and then we're being transparent about what we're getting internally for our own transformations as IBM, because really, we looked at this as a platform. It's really an enterprise cognitive data platform that all of IBM uses on all transformation work. So our client in fact is Steven and I think you can give, what are we doing? By the way, it also, same type of infrastructure allows you to do what we did in the national labs, you know, the largest supercomputers in the world, same infrastructure, and the same thing we're trying to do is make it easier for people to get insights for the data at scale in the enterprise. So that's why I want to bring Steven on, right? I joked with Interpol, I said, oh, if you can do it, IBM, if you can do it there, you can do it anywhere, because he's pointed out we're a highly complex organization, so Steven, take us through how you got started and what you're doing. For sure, so I'm what's referred to probably as a difficult customer, right? So because we're so multifaceted, we have so many different use cases internally in the orders of hundreds. It doesn't mean that I can just say, hey, this is a specific, you know, pattern that I need, Ed. You need to make sure your hardware is efficient in this area, because the next day I'm going to be hitting him and say, hey, Ed, I need you to make sure that it's also efficient in terms of bandwidth as well. And that's the beauty of working in this domain is that I have those hundreds of use cases and it means that I'm hitting, you know, low latency requirements, bandwidth requirements, extensibility requirements, because I'm bringing, I have a huge number of headcount that I'm bringing on as well. And if I'm good now, I don't have to worry about in six months to be stating, hey, I need to roll out new infrastructure so I can support these new data scientists and effectively so that they can get outcomes quicker. And I need to make sure that all the infrastructure behind the scenes is extensible and supports my users. And what I don't want them to have to worry about specifically is how that infrastructure works. I want them to focus on those use cases, those enterprise use cases, and I want them to touch as many of those use cases as possible. So, Interpol laid out sort of his five things that, you know, CDO should do. He starts with develop a clear data strategy. So, as the doer in the organization, how did that, how'd you go about doing that? Presumably you participated in that data strategy, but you're representing, you know, the lines of business, presumably, right? To make sure that it's a value to them. You can celebrate business value, but how did you start? I mean, that's a big challenge. For sure, yeah. It's a huge challenge. And I think effectively curating, locating, governing, and quality aspects of that data is one of the first aspects. And where does that data reside though? And how do we access it quickly? How does it support structured and unstructured data effectively? Those are all really important questions that had to come to light. And that's some of the approaches that we took. We look at the various business units, and we look at are they curating the data correctly? Is it the data that we need? Maybe we have to augment that curation process before we actually are able to kind of apply new techniques, new machine learning techniques to that use case. There's a number of different aspects that kind of get rolled into that. And, you know, bringing, you know, effective storage and effective compute to the table really accelerates us in that journey. So Ed, what are the fundamental aspects of the infrastructure that supports this sort of emerging workload? Yeah, no good question. And some of it is what we're going to talk about what's a storage layer or what's a compute layer, but also where are the tools we're putting in place to use a lot of these open source tool sets and make it easier for people to use, but also use the underlying infrastructure better. So if you look at the high level, we use a storage infrastructure that's built for these AI workloads, which is closer to an HPC workload, right? So the same infrastructure we use, we use the term ESS or Elastic Storage Server. It's a combination of turnkey solution, half rack, full rack, right? But it can start very small and grow to the biggest supercomputers in the world, like what we're doing in the national labs, like the largest, you know, top five supercomputers in the world. But what that is is a file system called spectrum scale allows you to scale out at the performance, but also low latency, gets at to the metadata of also high throughput. So we can do layers on that either on flashed, being all the hot tears will be on flash, because it's not just a throughput you need, which is high. So our lowest end box, close to what, 26 gigabytes a second, our highest one, like national labs, it's a 4.9 terabytes a second throughput, but it's also the low latency quick access. So we have a storage infrastructure, but then we also have high performance compute. So what we have is our power systems, power nine systems with GPUs. And the idea is how do you use a term feed the bees? How do you have the right throughput or IOPS to get the data close to that CPU or the GPU? The power systems have a unique bandwidth. So it's not like what you find from a commodity or the Intel servers. It's a much faster throughput. So it allows us to actually get data between the GPU CPU and storage or memory very fast. So you can get these deep learning times. And maybe you can share some of that. The learning times go up dramatically. So you get the insight. And then we're also putting layers on top, which our IBM cloud private is basically how do you have a hybrid cloud container based service that allows you to move things seamlessly across and not have to wrestle with how to put all these things together either. So it works seamlessly between a public cloud and private cloud. Then we have these tool sets. And I talked about this last time. It might not seem like storage or what you're having a few, but we use the term power AI is taking all these machine learning tools because everyone was open source, but we make them one more scale, but also two easier use. So how do you use a bunch of great GPUs and CPUs, great throughput, and how do you scale that? A lot of these tools were basically to be run on one CPU. So to be distributed, key research from IBM allows you to actually with power AI, take the same tensor flow workflows or dot, dot, dot and run across a grid, dramatically changing what you're doing from learning times, right? So, but anyway, you can probably give more things, but it's a multiple layer. It's not one thing, but it's not what you use for digital storage infrastructure or compute infrastructure for normal workloads. It is custom, so you can't, a lot of people try to deploy maybe their NAS storage box and maybe it's flash and try to deploy, and you can get going that way, but then you hit a wall real quick. This is purposely built for AI. So Beth Smith was on earlier. She threw out a stat. She said that 85%, based on some research, I'm not sure it was IBM or Forrester Gardner, said 85% of customers, they talked to, said AI will be a competitive advantage, but only 20% can use it today at scale. So obviously scale is a big challenge, and I want to ask you to comment on another potential challenge. We always talk about elastic infrastructure. Scale up, scale down, end of month, okay. We sometimes use this concept of plastic infrastructure. Basically, plastic maintains its shape because these workloads are so diverse. I don't want to have to rip down my infrastructure and bring in a new one every time my workload changes. So I wonder if you could talk about the requirements from your perspective, both in terms of scale and in terms of adaptability to changing workloads. Well, I think one of the things that Ed brought up that's really, really important is these open source frameworks assume that it's running on a single system. They assume that storage is actually local, and that's really the only way that you get really effective throughput from it is if it's local. So extending it via PowerA, via these appliances and so forth, means that you can use petabytes of storage at a distance and still have good throughput and not have those GPU utilization coming down because these are very expensive devices, right? So if the storage is the blocker, is the controller and he's limiting that flow of data, then ultimately you're not making the most effective use of those very expensive computational mediums. But more importantly, it means that your time from ideation to product is slowed down, right? So you're not able to get those business outcomes. That means your competitor could get those business outcomes if they don't have it. And for me, what's really important is I mentioned this briefly earlier is that I need those specialists that touch as much as the data, as much as those enterprise use cases as possible. At the end of the year, it's not about touching three use cases. It's touching three this year, five, ten, more and more and more. And with the infrastructure being storage and computation, all of that is key attributes to kind of seeing that goal. Without having to rip that down. Without having to rip it down. And repurpose building it every time. And just being able to deal with the grid as a grid and you can place workloads across a grid. That's our spectrum. Compute products that we've been doing for all the major banks in the world to do that and take these workloads and place them across a grid. It's also a key piece of this. So we always talk about the infrastructure as being, so Ed, that's not storage or infrastructure. No, you need that. And that's why it's part of my portfolio to actually build out the overall infrastructure for people to build on-prem. But also talk about everything we did with you on-prem is hybrid and goes to the cloud natively because some workloads we believe will be on the cloud for good reasons and you need to have that part of it. So everything we're doing with you is hybrid cloud today, not in the future today. Today, no, 100%. And that's one of the requirements in our organization. We call it one architecture. If we write it for on-prem, we have to be able to run it on the cloud, right? And it has to have the same look and feel and pane of glass and things like that as well. So it means we only have to write it once. So we're terribly, incredibly efficient, right? Because we don't have to write it multiple times for different types of infrastructure. Likewise, we have expectations from the data scientists that the performance also has to be up to par as well. We want to really be moving the computation directly to where the data resides. And we know that it's not just on-prem. It's not in the cloud. It's a hybrid scenario. So don't hate me for asking you this, Ed, but you've only been here for a couple years, right? Did you just like stumble into this? You got this vast portfolio. You got this tooling. You got cloud. You know, you've got a part of your organization saying we got to do on-prem. The other part is saying we got to do public. And so, or was this designed to the workload? Was it kind of a little bit of both? Well, I think it's luck is good, but it was an embarrassment of riches inside IBM. Between our primary research, some of the things we just talked about, how do you run these frameworks in a distributed fashion and not designed that way and do it performant at scale? That's our primary, that's research. That's not even in my group, right? What we're doing is for workload management. That's in storage, but we have these tool sets. The key thing is working with the clients to figure out what they're trying to do. Everyone's trying to be data-driven. So as we looked at what you need to do to be truly data-driven, it's not just having faster storage, although that's important. It's not about the throughput or having the scale out. It's not about having just the CPUs. It's not just about having the open frameworks, but it's how to put that all together that were invisible. In fact, you said it earlier. He doesn't want his users to know at all what's underneath. He just wants to run the workload. You have people from my organization, because I'm one of your customers, you're my customer, but we go to you and say, we're trying to use your platform for the 360 view of the client, and are not data scientists, not data engineers, but ops team can use this platform. So anyway, so I actually think it's because IBM has this broad portfolio that we can bring together and when IBM shows up, which we're showing up in AI together in the cloud, that's when you see something that we can truly do that you can't get from other organizations. And it's because of the technology differentiation we have from the different groups, but also the industry context that we bring. And also when you're dealing with data, it is the trust. We can engage the clients at a high level and help them because we're not a single product company. We might be more complex, but when we show up and bring the solutions that we can really differentiate, and I think that's when IBM shows up, it's pretty powerful. And I think it's moved from trust me as well to show me, and we're able to show it now because we're eating what we're producing, right? So we're showing, we can, like the cognitive blueprint, that's, we're using that effectively inside the organization. So now that you've sort of built this out internally, you spend a lot of time with clients, probably 15% of my time, no, no, because I'm in charge of internal transformation and operations, right? They're expecting outcomes from us, right? But at the same time, there's clients that are, they're in the exact same boat. They realization that this is really interesting. There's a lot of noise, a lot of interesting stuff in AI out there, from Google, from Facebook, from Amazon, from all Microsoft, but image recognition isn't important to me. How do I do it for my own organization? I have legacy data from 50 years. This is totally different. And there's no get repo that I can go to and download a model and use it. It's totally custom and how do I handle that, right? So it's different for these guys. What's on your wish list? What's on its to-do list? Oh, geez. I want, it's so simple for my data scientists that they don't have to worry about where the data's coming from, whether it be a traditional relational database or an object store. I want it to feed that data effectively and I don't want to have them looking into where the data is to make sure the computation's there. I want it just to flow effortlessly. That's really the wish list. Likewise, I think if we had new accelerators in general outside the box, like not something from the traditional GPU viewpoint, maybe Dataflow or something in new avant-garde type stuff that would be interesting. Because I think it might open up a new train of thought in the area, just like GPUs did for us. Great story. Yeah, no, I think it's, you know, so we've talked about AI for business and I think what you're seeing is we're trying to showcase what IBM's doing to be really an AI business and what we've done in this platform is really showcase. So we're trying to be as transparent as possible. Not because it's the only way to do it, but it's a good example of how a very complex business is using AI to get dramatically better and everyone's using the same common platform. And we learn, like we effectively learn, that being open is much better than being closed. Like look at the AI community because it's openness. That's where we're at right now. And following the same lead, we're doing the same thing and that's why we're making everything available. You can see it and we're doing it and we're happy to talk to you about it. Awesome, all right. So Stephen, you stay here. Yeah. We're going to bring some it on and we're going to drill down into the cognitive platform. That's a good idea. Thanks for setting it up. I really appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right, good to have you guys. All right, keep it right there. Everybody will be back at the IBM CDO Strategy Summit. You're watching theCUBE.