Hello, everyone, and welcome to Think Tech Hawaii's Hawaii Food and Farmers series. My name is Stephanie Mock, and I'll be the show host today. Our show is titled From Fields to Flying, Using Drone Technology for Hawaii's Farms. And usually on our show, we're talking with farmers, we're talking with chefs, restaurateurs, and other ag professionals who are working with farmers in the field and chefs in the restaurants about how to secure Hawaii's food system and agricultural system. So usually we're talking with farmers who are attending their fields or we're talking to technical assistants who can really provide that in the field technical assistance. But today I thought we'd talk about something a little different, different type of technical assistance, maybe not so much in the field but above the field. So our show again is From Fields to Flying, Using Drone Technology for Hawaii's Farms. And I have two drone experts with me, probably the drone experts throughout Hawaii joining me today. So I'm hoping we can marry my agricultural experience working with an agricultural non-profit and their drone experience and how we can find new applications for farmers to use drone technology on their farms, whether that's through mapping or new LiDAR technology or combating ag theft, which is a huge issue, especially for Hawaii farms. So I have two very special guests I'd like to extend a warm welcome to. First we have Ted Rousson, the program director of the unmanned aerial systems program at the University of Hawaii Applied Research Laboratory, right? I got that correct. It's pretty much all true. Pretty much all true. And we have also the program coordinator Josh Levy, who is a program coordinator of the same super long title, the UASUHARL program, correct? Correct. So my understanding is, you know, I've talked to, I've talked to many people about agriculture. I've never talked to anyone about drones and I must admit I am a complete new drone newbie. So anything you tell me is going to be brand new information and I know those watching today, especially land managers, farmers and field assistants are going to be interested in how we can use this great technology that we know exists, but how we can apply it in the field. So thank you for joining us today. I appreciate it. And our story, how I found these guests, is a little bit different. So Jay at Think Tech Hawaii had been wanting me to interview you for a couple of months and he was like, you need to contact Ted. And I was like, when am I going to talk to Ted about these drones? I don't know what to do. And I was at the Waimanalo neighborhood board meeting and I saw you and I was like, man, that guy looks so familiar. Where do I know him from? And I Googled you and Think Tech Hawaii host and I'm glad I got to talk to you because you were talking about an ag theft project that you're working with on drones. So here we are today. The first half of our show is going to feature basically a one-on-one of drones. What you can currently use them for. And then the second half of our show is going to be strictly agricultural applications of drone technology and where you see the future of agriculture and drones working together. So thank you. I know that was a long welcome, but I appreciate you guys being here. So Ted, if you could kind of give us a background of what your role as program director of the UAS, U-H-A-R-L is and what your core mission is. Sure. We probably have enough content in what you just laid out here for about three hours of meetings and we have 20 minutes or probably have about 25 at this point in time to go through. So very quickly at the Applied Research Lab at the University of Hawaii, we have an obligation generated by the legislature and then relayed to us through D-Bed to provide leadership in the going direction forward for applying drones and drone technology to all aspects of infrastructure here in Hawaii. And we also have the obligation to coordinate things in a way that is consistent with our partners, the University of Alaska, who have a contract with the FAA and Josh is one of Josh's jobs is to coordinate that. So work done in Hawaii matches what the contract with the FAA says. And third we have a business function to generate and run it, which is an unmanned air systems test range. All of the lands in Hawaii, private and public are potentially involved in that business and that again comes out of a relationship we have University of Alaska and that they have with the FAA. So in summary, we're supposed to be providing leadership and outreach and advice and guidance and anything we can do to make sure this technology is used in the right way and for the best of Hawaii. Okay. Wow. There you go. That's the mission statement. And AG is a big part of that. And I've been looking for you for some time, ever since I kept looking at all the station responses here and there was these couple of different programs on AG that take place here once a week. And we were working with the State AG conference this year with the and the Farmers Bureau and such and just trying to find where that center point of AG functionality is so we can attach to it. And it turns out it's right here in the same station where I work. I know, like taking it away, right? I'll give that to you. Yeah. Well, thanks to Jay. Yeah, thanks to Jay and a chance meeting at a neighborhood board meeting, right? So I thought, Josh, I'd like, you know, he kind of touched on your role already as program coordinator. So I thought, I, you know, I have no experience with drones. I've never even played with them. So I thought you could just talk a little bit about how you got involved in using drones. Did you study it? Did you just pick up a drone one day and fly it and crash it? Or any story about that? Yeah. What do I begin? No, so it started actually, you know, at least 10 years ago now back when I was still in high school, my brother, who's three years younger than me, also in high school was always an engineer, Tinker, those kinds of things, picked up kind of building quadcopters out of pieces of wood in the basement. So he was flying them, and at that time he would never, ever let me fly them. At least I kind of, that was when I first got exposed to drones, right? At least quadcopters. And then kind of that sat in the back of my mind for a couple of years while I was doing, you know, studies in marine biology and marine science. Came out to Hawaii to pursue a master's degree and in there got involved with this guy, Ted. And from then on, it was history, essentially, you know, using, starting to use drones to map coral reefs. I'm out of the windward side of the island, Kaneohe Bay. And, you know, had a relationship with Ted from then on, kind of thinking about how, you know, the ways to move drones forward in Hawaii. And from there we are essentially. Yeah, so for your master's project then you said you were using drones to map out the coral reefs in Kaneohe Bay. Was the idea just to get kind of that baseline map, was it to provide possible solutions? What was more in-depth on that project? So I actually got, well, I got lucky, but the corals got unlucky during the years that I was going out there, because this was during one of those, one of the years that we had global coral bleaching, where essentially worldwide, you know, severe decline in coral health. So I was able to get out there with these drones and map the extent of coral bleaching on some of these reefs in a way that it would have taken people, either snorkeling or scuba diving, significantly longer time to collect the same amount of information. So trying to start kind of pushing the boundary in terms of what can we start using these drones for? By significant, you mean more like 100, 100 times, right?  Yeah, exactly.  In one hour you can do the work that 10 guys can't do in 10 days. Exactly, yep. Yeah, significant increase in kind of efficiency and even quality of data collected. And going back to the ag situation, even the processes that we use for mapping coral reefs can be applied directly towards ag and all those benefits I was talking about can be transferred right over as well. All right, so you were, so like you said, you were mapping the coral reefs. I thought we could talk about some other projects that you guys have done in Hawaii or worldwide that you've been using drones, either mapping or LiDAR or any other projects. How about you take, no, you take it, Ted. Okay, well, one of the obligations we have in an offer we make is to anybody who's watching this show in the ag domain, we are more than willing to come out or have you come to the university and any island, really, any of the islands in Hawaii and do demonstrations associated with what information is useful by that particular segment of the ag business to collect in terms of information they need to make better decisions, make them faster and make them more accurately. So we can take this equipment out, we can have them come see us. So that's one thing that's an offer we make to you and your audience right now. That's one of our... You heard it right here on Things Like Hawaii. Right here on the show, right, yeah. Can't go back now, it's on. No, no, it's not, it's on, it's right there. It's on YouTube forever, so, yeah. So as Josh mentioned, work in the natural environment is really attractive, really, because you can put drones out with sensors on them in a way where you would put a person at risk and you don't put anybody at risk in using the drone. So Josh's work on the reef, we've got people working on beach erosion, Chuck Devaney, one of our counterparts did a lot of work on Kailua Beach erosion over a, watching over a period of time. We've done some work with the Navy in terms of discovering marine debris and this sort of thing without putting a boat out there to find it. And law enforcement, fire protection, public safety, determining collections where fire hazard material is collected, vegetation, or just material and goods that are stored somewhere that could turn into a fire hazard, determining access in so that public safety can get in and get fire equipment in or get people out. All of those kinds of tasks have been done and it, I was personally done in the Philippines after the Alanda Typhoon down there and we did a lot of work down there looking at debris collection and such and damage structure. And it somehow putting that observation point up and looking down or at a bleak and looking slant gives you a whole new dimension of information you can't get standing here with five and a half foot eyes looking horizontally. And you see a whole different picture. And so without belaboring it anymore, anywhere from man made to natural issues, he goes power lines and such, anything that can be inspected can be inspected in general better and lower risk with something like these drones, which are also relative to people, they're expendable. If we lose a drone, it's not like the end of the day. But if you lose a person, why, it's a whole different deal. So this information that you're seeing in these new landscapes and stuff, are you able to look at it real time or do you have to collect it and then download it to a computer? Or is it that real time indication of data? Both are really there, depending on the sensor package that you put on and the payload that carries that sensor package, it could be for collection for post analysis, things that don't move very fast, ag for one is looking at it that night, it's probably not bad. And it saves having to transmit a lot of data down. If you're looking at law enforcement or fire protection, you want the information right there on a screen or you want in fact relay it to somebody else on a screen because you have to make decisions immediately. So what you're asking is a really interesting question. The most important thing is to understand thoroughly what the user's needs are, how they intend to use the information, what type of information they want to collect, how durable it has to be, what resolution it has to be, what accuracy. And then working backwards from there, you can put together the payload package and the sensors and then you can decide what to carry it on, carry it on a fixed wing, carry it on a hybrid, carry it on a rotor craft. Those decisions can be made once you understand really what the end user's needs are. So sitting down with some ag people over a great agricultural product, Hawaiian coffee, and having that discussion would be superb. We will start that, we can't do it tomorrow, but we can do it Saturday, right? Sorry.  There you go. So I thought we could pull up some of the photos and images you guys provided today just to give people an idea of what kind of images we can capture with drones. If we could pull those up, right? There we go, there we go. So Josh, maybe you could just kind of give us a quick overview, obviously beautiful, beautiful photo. But what was the point of this? Why are you so happy? So this was during those mapping missions to go out to Kanyohebe and map those patch reaps. So this is actually an image that I was collecting during those mapping missions. This wasn't a, I'm gonna go and take a beautiful photo, this was actually part of my job at the time. Way to make it scientific, you know? That's just pretty photos. Exactly, that's the thing is drones can kind of blend those two worlds together, right? There are a lot of people in the re-science realm that are trying to get kind of their word out there on the research they're doing, why it's so important, those kinds of things. And just showing people graphs and numbers isn't gonna do the trick. You have to show people some of this is gonna catch their attention. And so looking at something like this, where you see these two fringing, these two patch reaps coming together, forming this amazing channel with fishing, you know, fishing the channel, there's a turtle in the channel, really catches their attention and I'm just like, you know, what's that picture all about? You know, what are you doing here? And so blending that kind of that line between education and research, I think is what these things can do really well. I think that's fantastic. Yeah, can we show one more, do we have time for one more image? I would love to show just, can you explain what kind of project this was for? So this is actually showing you one of our smaller test sites throughout Hawaii. So we have a very good relationship with the University of Hawaii, obviously. Obviously, yeah. But so we actually have use of the baseball stadium whenever the baseball team isn't there, obviously, that causes problems. But so we've had several demos, several test flights out there at the baseball stadium to essentially, again, without showing people the capabilities of these platforms, showing what kinds of things that we can do, not only just taking photos, but agility tests, all those kinds of situations as well. And because it's right down the street, it's something that we can plan that day of as long as we're getting permission, we can go down and do some testing in the afternoon. Right, well, thank you. We're gonna take a quick break right now. So we've been joined by Ted Ralston and Josh Levy of the, oh my goodness, of the Unmanned Aerial Systems Program at the University of Hawaii Applied Research Laboratory. And they've been talking to us about how they got involved in drones and the different applications that drones can use, that they've been using here in Hawaii. And our second half of the show is gonna feature agriculture and drone technology. Stay tuned. I have this crazy thing going on today. I was just walking by and all these DJs and producers are set up all around the city. And I just walked by and I said, what's happening, guys? They told me they were making music. Welcome back, everyone.  We're here at Hawaii Food and Farmers Series show today. We are focusing on from fields to flying, using drone technology for Hawaii's farms. And we have two local drone experts who have been telling us about their expertise and background in using drones and all the different applications that it has here in Hawaii. And our second half of the show is gonna be strictly agricultural applications. So we're gonna marry our agricultural tech that we have here at Hawaii Food and Farmers and their drone expertise, which I must admit, I have none. So we're hoping to blend these today and see all the different opportunities that they have. So Ted mentioned to me before the show that they're working on this really interesting project with Kauai Coffee Company and Agmit. So I'm gonna talk to him now and see if he could give us a little bit more about that AgTep project. Sure, actually, it's bigger than just Kauai Coffee is on all islands and this is an FAA project, FAA program that we the state of Hawaii have put a bid in for. UH did the work, D-Vid is the nominal bidder on this project for FAA. The whole idea is to find the most useful use of drones in your various aspects of infrastructure and business in your area and find ways that the various governmental agencies and organizations and the legislature and the police and fire, everybody can work together and come up with a way that is locally very effective in terms of managing the system, managing the collection of information, protecting privacy, all the things that go along with taking pictures of things and find a way to make that work. Ultimately, to return the control of airspace in your jurisdictional area over to us, the locals. Rather than have the federal government manage and control that airspace if it's down low where crops grow, sorry, have the local agencies and jurisdictions share work and come together and become empowered to do that most effectively. Rather than turn to Washington D.C. and say we have this idea of a farm on a Kauai, what do you think Washington D.C.? Washington D.C. is where? No, they have no idea. So return that to local. So there are Kauai Coffee Company is participating in that and so is Monsanto on the island of Maui in terms of ag theft and on ag efficiency. And anybody who is listening to this who has an idea of things that are important in theft or security or things that are important in ag efficiency is absolutely willing to help contribute to what the user's needs are so we can help, we can configure this program to be most effective and most broad.  I wanted to know, did the farms come to you? Were they seeking out, hey, how can we use drones? Or were you guys thinking about, hey, let's reach out to these farms and see what applications these drones have. I think it was kind of like what you just ran into at the Orlando Neighborhood Board. You found a connection that would work. We found a connection with Fred Kaua at Kauai Coffee Company through Stu Burley at the Kauai Economic Development Council on Kauai. And Fred is already working drones on the Kauai Coffee Company operation and so we decided to build that up stronger. And the other connection through Monsanto came through actually through the FAA. Monsanto had contacted the FAA and said, who do we contact to figure out how to work this in Hawaii? And they said, okay, here's your contact, just like the Neighborhood Board. And so it's those kind of connections that work and then once you have that connection, now you can involve others and bring the whole network in and have everybody contribute to it and vote on it for that matter. Okay.  Are there ways that you're thinking about how small farmers can use drones on their farm or strictly are we trying to think big first and then seeing how that model can work for the smaller farms in the state? The scale was anywhere from 10 acres to 3,000 acres. I remember we'd gotten, Josh might talk a little bit about the work we did in Waimanalo. Sure, yeah, so I'm sure you're aware of the farms in the backside of Waimanalo. So we went up there and helped, I forget the name of the guy, but then we went up there with, I forget, anyway, he, yeah. So quite a few, but yeah. There was several and it was a little bit of a time ago, but he essentially went up there to, essentially do a demo, right? Show them what the capabilities of using drones are, went up there and that those farms are kind of a patchwork of, you know, a different property. Similar to the picture we have in the background here. Yeah, exactly. And so being able to do, you know, kind of work as a team, you know, in terms of these farmers kind of pooling together, whether it's funds, resources to have one of these guys cover all of their farms in one flight and then divvy up the data in certain ways that would be useful to everyone. It's kind of a thing that we were working on back there, but it is, it's a pretty interesting topic because, you know, there are certain people that may not want to share all this kind of stuff and others that are completely fine with people knowing kind of what's going on in their farms and how productive they're being. But the great thing about these aircraft, especially the quadcopters, is they, you know, they can do very small areas very, very quickly whereas with these fixed wings, you know, doing an acre or so isn't going to quite, going to be using the capability of these aircraft. So if you have a small little farm, investing a little bit of money into one of these will help you, I don't, depending on what you need, but, you know, help you a lot in terms of getting a new perspective on what's happening with the health across. So I'm glad that you pointed out these actual drones that we have here in the studio today. And I thought you could talk about prices because I know you said a nominal fee and you can buy your own drone, but that is a really relative term. So I thought you could just, can you kind of quote me hard prices on each model and why this one versus this one? Right, so this big orange guy down here, this is a flight wave edge, this is a hybrid V-toll system, so it can take off and land vertically and then transition to fly like an airplane, which allows you to take off and land in smaller areas that have a two hour flight time, so you can cover a lot of air really fast with one of these guys. So if you have that 3,000 acre farm, then, you know, this would kind of be up your average, right? Whereas, and so that's going to cost you $10,000. 10,000, okay. So, you know, for a big production, maybe that's worth it or you're going to be, you know, can you save that money on buying trucks and fuel and all those kinds of things that cover that area?  So, yeah, for around $1,500, you can get one of these and essentially collect the same imagery as one of these depending on what your sensor payload is again, but obviously for a different cost. Yeah. So, yeah, obviously this cheaper model would be better suited probably for the smaller farms that don't have the capital to invest in this, but I think one important thing is that just because you buy a drone doesn't mean you know how to operate it, and I don't think people want to send up a $1,500 drone and then crash it and then just constantly be paying $1,500. So, I know you made that offer, we have it on camera, that anyone can contact you and you come out and I think you're going to be inundated with requests, so I was wondering, is there any sort of framework for kind of like utilizing that sharing economy for drones? Is there like an Uber or a Lyft for drone usage? Can I just say, hey, I need to map five acres and you guys come out? I think you're right on, if you're a five acre, one acre, 10 acre, 20 acre farmer, you're not going to want to buy any equipment unless you are also a tech guy who really gets into that stuff. Yeah, kind of multi-millionaire on the side. Probably that, right. And so, is some kind of a cooperative or some kind of a service where the farmer doesn't actually, doesn't have to own anything, simply hires the service to come in and take a periodic examination once a month or something like that of a certain area and would be a perfectly good business model. So, there's that breakpoint between owning it and buying it and buying a service that has to be discovered. And I think this program we're thinking of with the FAA that we get applied on, probably give us a lot of information that would help. In fact, the FAA is even after that. They said, we need to know where the breakpoint is between buying and buying equipment and buying a service. And we need to know where things don't work. If things crash a lot, we need to know that too. So, there's a lot of discovery yet to be made, but it starts with a demonstration and it starts with user's needs. So, all those viewers of yours will get them down to the university stadium or all collect out in Waipahu or Waianae or Waimanala or somewhere and do a demonstration and start that discussion. That dialogue is the essential piece that will pull this together and make it useful. Yeah, so I know a lot of farmers. So, I work with farmers as my full-time job and they're interested in it, but the capital and just like the tech know-how isn't there. So, I think, you know, kind of offering that in the field demo and those workshops and outreach that you guys are talking about is huge. And I'm, you know, in a couple of months, maybe I can bring you back on and see if anything's been moving forward with this ag theft proposal. Well, we'd love to have you act as the filter, bring all this at the funnel and bring all these questions and comments and connections in and feed them to us. We'll be glad to go off and construct work and construct workshops. Yeah. Get this going. I think that's awesome. And then, so you've been talking a lot about the FAA. Have you been working with USDA as well or the State Department of Agriculture? We have not, we've actually been looking for the point of connection. We went to the capital, to the agricultural day at the capital last year. Oh, yeah, that's coming up next month. Yeah, I was thinking it's coming up pretty soon. And it was, frankly, it was tough figuring out who's in charge. Right. And exactly who do we talk to. Right. And so, we wandered around. That's where we met Fred Cowell. Oh, okay. And he was, you know, he comes from spec ops in the Air Force so he understands stuff pretty well. He knows. He got some background. He helps a lot. And that's the sort of connection we need. So if we can figure out, if we can, if you can put some meetings together for us at the State Ag Conference and we can bring equipment and do it right there in the capital. Am I an honorary member of the UAS, U-H-A-R-L now? Anybody in J. Feidele's office who is an automatic commander. Yeah. Unfortunately, we're out of time. I feel like we didn't even broach like a lot of the topics we wanted to talk about today. So obviously, I'll have to have you on in a couple months just to see how that project's going. So thank you guys so much for joining me today. And I'm glad we could talk about drone technology for Hawaii's farm. So we were joining the studio today at Head Rausden and Josh Levy of the unmanned aerial systems program at the University of Hawaii Applied Research Laboratory. Not our usual guests here in Hawaii, food and farmers, but obviously very expertise guests and we're so happy that they were talking about drone technology and how Hawaii farms can use it, whether creating a drone Uber, if you will, and bringing those farmer knowledge in the field knowledge to the drone guide. So how can we work together to prevent ag theft, increase yields and maximize profits for Hawaii's farms? Until next time, stay tuned. Thank you.


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Hey everyone, Adam Shaw here from Bervera Media Company. Today we're going to be talking about the Siege of Detroit. Right in front of you we've got a vintage military field guide of the siege during the War of 1812. It obviously, as you can see, displays various military strategic locations. It displays Fort Detroit, various towns, rivers, mills, lots of different information on this vintage map. We're going to zoom in and kind of explore it. But before we do, let's kind of give a historical background to the Siege of Detroit. The Siege of Detroit, also known as the Surrender of Detroit or the Battle of Fort Detroit, was an early engagement in the Anglo-American War of 1812. A British force under Major General Isaac Brock with Native American allies under the Shawnee leader, Tecumseh, used bluff and deception to intimidate the American Brigadier General William Hull into surrendering the fort in town of Detroit, Michigan. What's interesting about this surrender is that the armies, the American armies that were contained in the Detroit area, actually surrendered and had a larger force than the British force. And the use of this deception really kind of tilted the surrender. And I thought that was interesting. I just wanted to put that in there. In the early months before the conflict in 1812, tensions really increased greatly with Britain. President James Madison and Secretary of War William Eustis were urged by many people, including William Hull, to form an army which would secure the former Northwest Territory against Native Americans incited against the United States by British agents and fur trading companies. In particular, it was urgently necessary to reinforce the outpost of Detroit, which had a population of 800 but a peacetime garrison of only 120 soldiers. President James Madison and William Eustis agreed that they must pursue strategic military actions and localities, for which Madison offered command of the army to William Hull, an aging veteran of the American Revolutionary War. Hull, though, was reluctant to take the appointment, but no officer with his prestige or experience was immediately available. After repeated pleas from Madison, Hull finally accepted and was commissioned as a Brigadier General. Hull's army consisted initially of three regiments of Ohio militia under colonels Lewis Cass, Duncan MacArthur and James Finley. When Hull took command of them on May 25th, he found that they were badly equipped and ill-disciplined and no arrangements had been made to supply them with a military march. He made hasty efforts to remedy the deficiencies in equipment and joined by the 4th U.S. Infantry under Colonel James Miller, the army marched north from Urbana, Ohio on June 10th. On June 26th, Hull received a letter from the War Department head, William Eustis, warning that war was imminent and urging him to make haste to Detroit with all possible expedition. So essentially, he was given this order during his march from a mail carrier and it said, you need to get to Detroit very, very quickly because we're about to go to war. Hull reached Detroit by July 5th. Here, he was reinforced by attachments of the Michigan militia, including 140 of the Michigan Legionary Corps, which Hull had established in 1805. While encamped in the area, Eustis urged Hull to attack Amherstburg, a nearby fort that housed 300 British regulars, 400 Native Americans, and some militia. Hull gradually moved his force towards the fort while encompassing several indecisive skirmishes. Hull eventually decided he could not attack the British fort without artillery, which could not be brought forward because the carriages had decayed and needed repair. Hull then decided to fall back. Several of Hull's officers disagreed with this retreat and secretly discussed removing him from command. Hull at times quarreled with his military colonels since taking over the army and felt that he did not have their support in the field or with their council. Meanwhile, Major General Isaac Brock, the British commander in Upper Canada, was in York, the provincial capital, and he was mobilizing the province's militia. Although he had only a single regiment of regulars and some small detachments of veteran artillery to support militia, he was already aware that he was in no immediate threat from the disorganized and badly supplied American forces on the Niagara River. Or he didn't feel like there was a threat also coming from the lethargic American commander-in-chief Major General Henry Dearborn at Albany, New York. Only Hull's army was occupying or threatening Canadian territory because Detroit was the closest kind of American fortification that was closest to York. Based on this threat, Brock decided to dispatch 50 of his small force regulars and 250 volunteers from the militia and reinforce the Amherst Berg fort, the fort that, as we discussed previously, American General Hull was to capture. Eventually Isaac Brock made his way to Amherst Berg, arriving by about August 13th. At Amherst Berg, Brock immediately learned from Hull's captured dispatches that the morale of Hull and his army was low and that they feared that the number of Indians which might be facing them and that their supplies were short. Learning about this information, the British forces arranged for fake correspondence letters to be captured by American forces. The letters essentially stated and asked that no more Indians be allowed to proceed from Mackinaw and that there were already no less than 5,000 at Amherst Berg and supplies were running short. So essentially they, in these letters, they claimed that they had a larger force than what they actually had. General Isaac Brock then sent out a demand for surrender to General Hull that read, and this is really great. The force at my disposal, my disposal, authorizes me to require you immediate surrender of Fort Detroit. It is far from my intention to join in a war of extermination, but you must be aware that the numerous body of Indians who have attached themselves to my troops will be beyond control the moment the contest commences. So essentially says, you know, if we go to war, we've got a lot of Native Americans that are working with our troops, but I don't have control of these Native American troops and they can wreak havoc on you. So he used Hull's greatest fears, the fear of, he used Hull's fears that there were numerous Indians and that they were wild warriors. He used that fear against Hull to strategically make an amazing surrender. Also, to deceive, this is interesting as well. He used other tactics as well to deceive the Americans. He used essentially their, the suggestion of Major Thomas Evans. Brock gave his militia the cast off uniforms of the 41st Regiment to make Hull believe most of the British forces were regulars. So he essentially equipped a lot of these militia forces with regular, essentially uniforms of much higher class warrior. The troops were told also to light individual fires instead of one fire per unit, thereby creating the illusion of a much larger army. So at night time, they'd be out looking the fort and they'd see all these fires and they'd think, oh my goodness, that's a large force. They also often marched to the positions in plain sight of the Americans, then quickly ducked behind entrenchments and marched back out of site to repeat the maneuver. So they would create their force moving towards the fort and then they'd hide behind cover and then kind of repeat the whole process and just make their army look a lot larger. Hull in his mind believed he was on the verge of battling thousands of British soldiers. And also, he heard the battle cries of Native Americans. Eventually, he had no other choice, hoisted a white flag of surrender. He then asked General Brock to have three days to agree on terms of surrender. Brock replied, he would allow him three hours. So I mean, man, this general Brock, he's not an American general, but man, I love his strategy of taking over this fort. And I mean, just no holds bar, you don't get three days during the surrender. You get three hours.  I love it. I love it. There were also a little bit of background into General Hull. There were reports that General Hull had been drinking heavily prior to the surrender. He reported to have said the Indians were numerous beyond example and more greedy of violence than the Vikings or the Huns. So pretty cool background to the history of the siege of Detroit. Let's look into this map. This is a field guide of the siege of Detroit. We can see many different strategic locations kind of displayed. Remember when we talked about William Hull landing his American forces and getting there by July 5th? Well, here's the landing of Americans July 5th. They came right there. We can see the landing right here. Here's Fort Detroit. We could we could see the city of Detroit right there. Right across the river, you had the British batteries and you've got, I guess, the fortified encampment right here. So my guess is when they based on this map, they were encamped right across the river. So they didn't have exactly, you know, up front. They weren't right next to the fort, but certainly they were right across the river. So if you think about what we talked about earlier about depth perception and how they viewed the army and the deceptionary tactics, for instance, lighting several fires.  Also, the movement of troops, that really helped having that kind of distance between the fort and seeing the movement and hiding behind barriers. That I'm sure that really assisted in that. I mean, also the the the correspondence letters essentially stating, you know, using falsified information that definitely contributed to the surrender very well. You know, I'm very sure of that. We can see kind of the layout. There was a shipyard over by the Rouge River right over here. That that was kind of interesting. I didn't really see a lot of information when I did my research on the siege of Detroit on a shipyard. We've got a mill right here. We can see this is a it looks like a. I want to say a. I guess a trail to York. It says to York at the top. This is a pathway to York. We see different. I guess these are little towns. McKees Smith's or it's either a building or it's signifying a small village. There is no key on this. It's probably a building. Now I think about it. It looks like a building. We've got a shipyard right there. Yeah, it's a building and the mill right here is kind of square. OK, and we've got different islands, Hog Island, Peach Island. So I just wanted to kind of show you guys this map. We kind of get an idea of the layout of the siege of Detroit and we even get to see the location where the Americans arrived on July 5th. I also have a this is I can't really zoom in. It gets really pixelated. But this is a vintage painting kind of illustrating the surrender of of Detroit and between Hull and Brock. So I just wanted to kind of share that with you guys. I hope you've learned something from this video, the strategic battle of the siege of Detroit. Man, it's kind of it's a great lesson in an intimidation. In military strategic intimidation and false information, counterintelligence. A wonderful story that probably doesn't get a lot of attention. Amazing strategy. So I just want to share that with you. 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Hi everybody, Lisa Larson here, Animal Communicator, and today I'm going to give you six tips on how to move with a cat. Hi guys. Yeah, today we're going to be talking about how to move with your cats. I've got six tips for you because I know that this is something that many cat parents have to deal with at some point and it's difficult on you, it's difficult on them, so I think there's a lot involved that people don't think about. So I'm going to give you those six tips and this will be a quick video. So first of all, let's start before the move. Tip one, you want to talk to them either in your own words or through a communicator. It's fine. You know, I mean, if you want to call a communicator, that's what I do a lot and in helping animals move and I go through all of the details. But if that's not something that you want to do, that's fine because animals may not understand every word of English that you say or French or Spanish or whatever you speak, but they understand intent and we speak words with intent. So tell them in advance, okay, we're going to be moving. You're going to be seeing a lot of boxes around and you know, before you start putting the boxes out, we're going to be putting boxes out, you're going to be safe. Just keep reassuring them that you're going to be safe. We're all going to be moving. Just give them the overview so that they understand that whatever they're seeing is going to be safe, that they're going to be safe. Okay. Tip two, hopefully you have watched our video on keeping cats indoors and I'm hoping that all of your kitties are indoor kitties. But I know that there are probably some of you out there that do still have indoor outdoor kitties and it's really important, even for those indoor outdoor kitties before the move for like several weeks while you're packing, really important to keep those kitties indoors because if they start getting freaked out by seeing all of the boxes, because you guys are freaking out, because moving is so stressful, it's very likely and common that they just go off some place and they may think that they're going off for a couple of days just to get away from the stress, but it might be over the course of when you actually leave and you can't find them. So it's really, really important to keep your kitties indoors for those few weeks when all that commotion is going on before the move and even if they're indoor cats, make sure that you are hyper, hyper sensitive to any time that somebody's going in or out of the door, that they're not, that they're not making a run for it because they're probably feeling all the stress. So now during the move, tip three, here's the way that I generally suggest. If you have dogs, it's one thing you can put them in the backyard or dogs get freaked out too, but it's not quite like cats because they're more used to being around you and going out places with you. But cats are not. So what I would suggest is to put them in a bedroom before the movers come, feed them in the morning and then before the movers come, put them in the bedroom with all of their stuff, you know, with a lot of their stuff that they're comfortable with, the beds, food, their box and all of that. Because think about it, they're going to be hearing all of this noise and stuff. You definitely don't want them running around the house. You definitely don't want them getting caught up in the boxes. I should have said this about before the move, making sure that they never get caught in the boxes. I heard a story. I read a newspaper article about this cat that got ended up, they couldn't find the cat. They were moving overseas and the cat ended up in a box on Mattson going like six weeks. He was shockingly alive by the time they got there. But he had he had crawled into this box. Nobody knew it got closed up. I mean, that's not common. But ever since I heard that, it's like, OK, check your boxes, you know. But yeah, when it makes sure that they're not getting caught up in all of the boxes and all of the stuff. But when they're in the bedroom, even though you're having to to deal with the movers and say, you know, this goes here and do this now and whatever it is, make sure that you go in and check on them. You know, keep going in and reassuring them that everything's OK. Now, when the when the movers are ready to go in and get all of the bedroom furniture, it's best to then just move them. If you have the have an en suite bathroom that you can enclose them in, you can do that or maybe another another bathroom where again, you want to put their box in their food and stuff so that they feel comfortable with their things and then let the people empty the bedroom after they've emptied out everything from the bedroom. Then you can let the cats into the bedroom again. And, you know, they're going to be freaked out. You can tell them that you were going to see all of the stuff when we get to the new house. That's one of the things that I do. I when I talk to an animal who's going to be moving, I give them detailed step by step by step detail so that they're ready for every single thing. So you want to make sure that you understand that they're going to freak out, be freaked out, looking at that empty room. But, you know, just tell them where you're going to be safe. We're going to be moving, whatever and make sure that they have their things in there, like I've said, you know, that if especially after the stuff is gone, you know, if they have a special bed that they like or something like that. Tip four is that when everything is moved out and you're ready to actually leave the house, make sure that you put them in their carrier and then walk their carrier around to show them the empty house and let them say goodbye.  You walk around. You've been living here all. This is the only house that you've known for so many years or whatever. And you feel you have to say goodbye to it. Well, so do they. So make sure that they have the opportunity to do that. OK, so you're going to just let them let them look around. I always think about that if you've ever seen the last episode of Mary Tyler Moore. So when she, you know, everybody walks out and she's the one that turns off the light and she opens the door and she just takes a look that last time and then shuts the door and turns off the light. Well, you know, animals need that too. So that's tip four. OK, and I should have put this at a separate tip, but make sure that when you leave, you tell them this goes back to talking about talking to them. Make sure that you're talking to them throughout the whole process.  Usually for those longer things, that's when people usually call me. But but make sure that they understand how long they're going to be, you know, in the car. OK, in the new home now, we've gone from before the move during the move. And now we're getting to the new home. So you get to the new home, make sure that again, while all the movers and all of this stuff is going on before that, they start moving all the stuff in, take them into a bedroom, put their beds down, their food, their box, things that they know. And are familiar with and keep them in that bedroom for a couple of days. Now, the same thing, you have to do the same thing. You put them in the bedroom, the people start moving in all the furniture. And then when they're ready to move in the bedroom furniture, you put them in a in a bathroom or something and then let them out. When you can club, when everybody's out of the bedroom, all the movers are out of the bedroom. You can let them out into the bedroom.  They'll see the bed. They'll see, understand and but it's important to keep them in there for several days so that they know and establish a place for themselves. So they know that this is a safe place. And whether it's a bedroom or whatever, whatever room that, you know, they're going to be most comfortable in. I think it's usually the main bedroom because they sleep with me. But so it's really important.  You know, the problem is, you know, some people, I think they get all the stuff moved in and then they just open the door and they let the cats out and the cats run around and they're going, oh, my God, it's just it's like too much, you know. So that's why I say, confine them first, give them a small, little confined space, you know, not too small, not a bathroom. But that they can stay in for a couple of days and then walk around with them so that they get comfortable with the house. Now, again, if you have indoor outdoor cats, you need to keep them indoors for at least three weeks so that they get completely comfortable in their home because until they get comfortable in their home, they're not going to have an instinct to be able to come back. And again, if you do take them out, make sure that you you are out with them initially. Again, I have a real hard time with that because I just don't believe in indoor outdoor cats.  I know that's not everybody, but if you do have indoor outdoor, it's very important to keep them inside for a period of time.  But that's that's another podcast. OK, that was tip five. All right, tip six. Last tip, make the home theirs.  You know, whether it's a perch or a kitty condo or something that, you know, make it exciting for them. Finds, get them, you know, it's a lot of the stuff is going to be so overwhelming. But if you get them something that's that's a new toy or someplace for them to sit or someplace in the look outside, you know, then you can try to make it exciting for them. That's one of the things that I do when I talk to them. I try to show them what's going to be exciting about their lives going forward in their new home. So but do remember that cats like their routine. So get them adjusted slowly, like I say, in a smaller area. Let them have that comfortable spot so they're not overwhelmed and then just be with them and understand. I think one of the biggest things is understand what they're going through. You know, sometimes we get so caught up in what we're going through with the move that we tend to forget what they're going through. So yeah, so I think I will end with one of the questions that I know a lot of people have is what is the benefit of calling me or an animal communicator to have you talk to them beforehand? First of all, even if you call an animal communicator, it does not dismiss that you need to do all of these six tips. You know, you need to do all of these things anyway. The things that I do as an animal communicator when people are moving with their animals or any animals that cats in particular with is what we're talking about today is again, I tell them step by step. I a lot of times I think of things that maybe they, you know, people might not think of on their own. I show them I get into their their space and I show them what it's going to sound like when they hear all the movers, what it's going to feel like being in the car. And for instance, you know, it's easy to think about a move that we're just going 15, 20 minutes away, but some people move overseas. Some people move cross country. So, you know, when I when I do that, I'm telling animals, you know, about hotel rooms, how long each trip of each leg of the trip is going to be, what they're going to experience and stuff like that. So that's why a lot of times people will call me. They call me for the shorter moves, too. But I think they people really consider when they're longer trips, they think about this and making sure to call me in advance because I do I do book out quite a bit in advance. So but that's what I do. I help them understand. I tell them all of these things that I that I gave you, but I kind of get into their space and show them what it's going to feel like each step of the way. You know, so that's that's one of the reasons and whether it's me or another animal communicator, everybody has a different way of doing it. That's just the way that I do it. So anyway, I really appreciate you guys being here. If you are enjoying these podcasts, video casts, please hit that subscribe button and hit the like button that would really help me out here. And if you want to be notified of future videos, hit that bell. You can find me at pause talk dot net. You can find my book, Pause Talking, A Course in Communicating with Animals at Amazon and at Apple Books. So I really appreciate you being here. If you guys would please you have comments, please put them in the in the comments below. If you have questions, if you have other topics that you'd like me to cover, I appreciate it and I try to keep up on it. I don't always keep up on it as quickly as I should, but I try my best. So I really appreciate you guys being here and I will see you next time. Bye bye.


Welcome folks, we have the Dow Industries trading down $139, Majdek is up 98, S&P is up 5, Gold Contract up $16.10, trading out at $18.64 an ounce, we have Silver up $0.55, $25.33 an ounce, LightSweep crew flat $81.44 a barrel, notes and bonds. Ten year right now down $136, trading $130.10, 30 year off $11 at $161.25 and $King Dollar, $King Dollar is up $326.6, trading $95, $175, Euro $114, the yen is at $114.10 and the British pound is at $133 to $1 at U.S. Dollar, we get over and we take a look at the S&P, bring up the spy folks what you have happening, you get a sideways move out here, bottom line, you get 24 million shares trading $464, we look at the NDX 100, same type of set up inside the NDX, NDX right now, you're at $1.64, you're at $391, bottom line to get a consolidation that's happening out here, Gold continues higher, caught the bid, broke out yesterday, Gold's on its way probably up to the 1925 to 1950 area, right now we're at $18.64, so what you have out here is this, your swing high out there is $19.22, that's the swing high that was established out here in June, it doesn't matter kind of what gold or silver you're looking at folks, they're all just about in ABC structures on the way up, we have the XAU, the HUI, they're all caught a bid, they have the volume behind the move, they're taking the B point out, took it out with volume, they're going a lot higher and then the wild thing here is that when you look at King Dala, the bottom line is that King Dala also broke out and King Dala, you're at $95 right now, $182 and it looks to me like King Dala is going to try to get up into this $95, $355, the next swing up here is $97, so we'll see how this baby shakes out, if we do an A to B equals C to D, we don't have volume on King Dala because he has so many different currencies that are trading out here, but it's approximately, it's a decent one man, it's about three points which will get you into that high that we just talked about, that $95 will be higher than that, so it'll be, let's see, let me get this quick, come on let's go Tom, okay $95.50, we got about four points, yeah that's $97 and we're at $95.181, stay right there folks, come right back.


And Aloha and how you doing? Welcome to Hibachi Talk. Gordo the tech's out here. I'm really excited about today's show. It's just awesome. For a couple of reasons. One is Andrew's finally back. Everybody. Andrew, the security guy is here. How you doing? And my mentor, Kayla Rosenfeld is here. Yes. Who brought me into this $80. And it's helped me make all these non-millions of dollars over the past. Yeah, that's what I'm good for you. Thank you, Kayla. And you have a great story to tell. I'm looking forward to that. So please, grab yourself a libation, pull up a chair and join us for the next few minutes of Hibachi Talk. Oh, we didn't give you a head. She's going bottle. We're cutting back on costs. Anyway, Kayla, we start every show with a little bit of background on our guests and so on. We ask you like where you went to school and such and then and so on. So where did you go to school? From age five. Well, okay. That's about a week ago. I have a mixed background. Most of my, I grew up in Simsbury, Connecticut, but my dad was a Navy dentist. So the first few years of my life, I lived in Okinawa. Wow. All the naval bases there. So when I was about four or five, we came back to Connecticut and then as my teen years, I lived in Israel. And I'm a resident of Israel to this day. Oh, happy Passover. Yes, thank you very much. I know the freedom from flavoring. I'm waiting, I'm waiting.  And then college I went to State University New York System where I got a degree in Fish and Wildlife Technology. Then I came to Honolulu at the whim of some friends who offered me a job and a place to live. That helps. That helps, yes. So I was on Maui for a couple of years working in the marine tourism industry. And then I applied for scholarship while I was doing that. And I ended up at UH Mandoa. And I got my bachelor's degree in environmental journalism there at UH Mandoa. Wow. Journalism. Environmental. And you said something about fish technology? Fish and wildlife technology. Right.  So it'd be like, you know, on the mainland you've got freshwater streams. And you want to figure out what the population of the different fish are. So you would sample that, sample wildlife in the forest. Also what's the alkaline or pH of water. Okay. So that technology of fish and wildlife. So I got, you're going to slap me after this. Is gaviltafish really a fish? Gaviltafish is a combination of white fishes put together. Together, in a stew or something. Well, it's in a ball. Like a matzah ball or in something like that. A fish ball. A fish ball. Okay. Like haggis. Yes. Our version of haggis. So I got, and I also got to say, when I first got, and Jay Fidel, too, we got to mention this, Jay Fidel and I got involved with you when you were with White Public Radio. Correct. And how long were you there? I was there for 11 and a half years. And you were, in what role? I was a news director there. I was a reporter, and then I worked my way up to news director. And in that capacity, of course, I built, you know, not of course, in my capacity. I built an award-winning news department for which I am extremely proud. And it's still going. So, and they're doing great, great stuff there. And then also while I was there, I had the opportunity to work on talk shows, which is where you and Jay came in. And I will tell you, one of my finest moments was launching Think Tech Hawaii on Hawaii Public Radio. Wow. You don't even have paying for this gig. I know. I know. But it was. You guys taught me a lot. You taught me a lot about getting along with people. You taught me a lot about tech, the world of tech and what it means and its different ways to be used. And I just, I learned so much. And here we are all these years later, and there's still that connection and bond. I mean, so how could it be wrong? Yeah. How come we're still sharing information? Exactly. Like you said, I didn't, your journalism major. So that's awesome. Now I see the connection to communications to come from that up to build a studio. That's amazing. Yeah. It was awesome. Yeah.   For Jay, it's fun. And Jay's doing it like full time in his quote-unquote retirement. The days here are fabulous. I am so impressed.  Keep sending in that funding. Yeah. Send it in. Come on folks, send it in. Yeah. You gotta realize that everybody, you know, all of these shows were all volunteers, right? Yes. Our guests are all coming in here. You're not getting paid or anything like that. Correct. You've got a story to tell. And it's what this community is all about. We really help each other. Yeah. It's a real family. The stories, because you wouldn't get these stories. It's hard to get the one to many, you know, experience that you can deliver from here. So it's just amazing. Yeah. And we're all just a small community here trying, everybody trying to make it in the best way that they can. We have to depend on each other. Yeah. We really do. So, you know, your communications career is very dynamic though. I mean, you've done a number of things. Because you were at Hawaii Public Radio, like you said, for those number of years. And then after that, you went to, was it the state? I did. I did. Look at her face. I did. It was a huge learning experience. Let me say that I got paid a lot to learn where I don't belong. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Did you go straight from college to HPR? No, I had a break. From college, I went into aquaculture at the Oceanic Institute. Oh, okay. And then after that, I went to the Peace Corps. Oh, wow. And then after Peace Corps, I came back, and that's when I ended up at Hawaii Public Radio. I decided to really start working. Yeah. There was a stint in legislature there. The dark side. I thought, well, I've had it there too. Remember, we both went to the dark side. College. We were happiest day of our lives is when we got out of the dark side. Yeah. Yeah. I learned a lot working for this day. So did I. And I think every, I think it's one of those things that every, you know, we don't have the draft. I'm happy that Israel still has the draft. I wish we had the draft. I wish we could bring that back. But to replace it, if you don't want to do that, then let's, two years of public service. Agreed. It's really important to understand how government works. Yeah. Because if you don't understand that, you don't know how to operate. You don't know how to communicate. And it's frustrating because you can't get things done. Yeah. Even when you know how things work, you can't get things done. So at least if you've got the knowledge, it helps. It really, it really, really helps. I mean, what, but they're not getting much done. I mean, I just want to, I don't know, what did you fear somehow that they had need to learn back? Maybe you need to go back and teach.  Yeah. And, you know, cover things in non-communication, that's supposed to be communication.  Being a journalist, details and information are important to me. And I couldn't do that. Yeah. The word smithing. That's something. The word smithing. Oh my God. Yeah. It's just what they would do to change a certain word. Is it all about political positioning and posturing? It's about political positioning. And when something is, is acceptable to be released, never mind the fact that it should be released, but when is the best time to release it and the word smithing. So yeah. I see. It was a challenge. And you were in the media side.  So you had to deal with it from that side. Trying to pull information. Holding that stuff up. So you got to experience all of that. Yeah. And that was the other challenge is being a public information officer for the Department of Human Services. Welfare, child abuse, food stamps and elder abuse. So being a public information officer for that. And having to take questions from reporters. So right. These were my colleagues that I then had to stonewall, essentially. Did they know you were doing it? Yeah. I'm never going to get our jobs done. Just so you know. You just tell them the whole story here. So this is a good thing. Yeah. So did they know that? Yeah. I mean, Kaoki Curd once said to me, come on, Kayla, you know how this works. Give me the information. And I was like, but I can't. Thank you, Kaoki, for laying me straight. I know. And thanks to you too, because I got to know like Kaoki and all those players before I got into the dark side. And then when I'd see them, they had that smile on their face. And I'd go like, what do you want? Exactly. It isn't going to happen. Exactly. What an experience. Interesting. Yeah. But it gave me a good foundation to jump off into other things. And I'm grateful for that. Yeah. And when we get to the second half of the show, we're talking about, I love this shirt, by the way. Thank you very much. Thanks for wearing it. Yeah. So in the second half of the show, we're going to kind of get into this pretty cool new stuff here. Women in the industry, in the communications industry. I mean, you see it on television and those kinds of things. So has it blossomed? Has it grown? What's your view of how it's happening? My view is that women have always been in communications and always in the communications industry, but we've been in the backside of things. The men have been the face. Now technology has sort of leveled the playing field in that women have access to technology and can put themselves in the front. And you can also, in some cases, not indicate that you're female and go ahead and do what you're doing. Use a pseudonym and people don't know. So you're still getting your word out there. You're still getting the word out. Yeah. I've noticed that really cool stuff. Yeah. So technology has been a huge boon for women in communications. Awesome. Awesome. So I'm trying to keep our timing set. You have a security minute. We have a few minutes. Oh, yeah, quick. Okay. Why don't you give us a security minute? I'll do it when we come back, though. Oh, that's right. Okay, see ya. I'm the only one that's been away and I forgot how the program works. We need that camera angle. Okay, so let's come back on the women in the industry and the technology and so on because I even see it now. Now the other day there, and this is not so much communications, but NBA basketball game had a woman referee. Wow. And I went, whoa. And I never noticed it. My wife did. She went, oh, that's a woman referee. Wow. And I said, there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with it, but our mindsets are still, we're still in this day-to-day thinking that women shouldn't be homogeneous within all these industries. Is it still, do you think tough for? In certain industries, sports is still, you know, I mean, if you think about where the money in sports is, it's not women's sports. Yeah, it's not the women's NBA, you know, for sure. Yeah. I mean, the WNBA. Look at the women's soccer, right? Yeah, the WNBA, which I followed from the very beginning, we used to call the local newspaper and say, why aren't there stats being published? When you've got high school, you know, local high school stuff being published, why can't you publish professional women's basketball? Yeah. You know, so we complain to that a lot. Yeah. And I think we should. You know, Andrew and I talk about this in the tech industry. There's not 30%, or less. Or less. But it's growing. It's growing. You know, it's just, yeah, it's the needs there. And what I find just, I think it's difficult for me to understand is because the roles are there, the work's being done, but even the salaries aren't equal yet.  It's just some old school mindset that's got to change. It's changing, but it needs to just change, you know. It's happening. So tell me, in the career that you've had, what are some kind of a high point, or one high point about the things that you got to be involved in and participated in? Usually I want to ask this because I'm hoping that some of the viewers are watching this and are like, well, I might want to get into that career because of these kinds of opportunities that come. Well, I'd say public radio was definitely a high point in my career. And it taught me how to communicate, ask questions, not be afraid to ask questions. And I liked that I could, you know, sort of drop the barrier because of who I was representing and what my job was I could ask questions. And that felt good. It empowered me. It really empowered me. And then also the opportunity to focus on a particular story and make that a point of interest or high profile, having that power to do that also was really invigorating and not abusing it, you know. So being humble in the process as well. Oh, we haven't learned that yet. Yeah. Last few years have taught me to be humble. I'll recommend it. Yeah. So that was really exciting. And then working with the state, I wouldn't call it a highlight, but it was a huge learning experience and I appreciate that opportunity. And then going out on my own with Wild Rose Communications, I've had a couple of really good experiences where I got to go to India with the East-West Centre. I got to be part of the World Conservation Congress here. That was here last September. I got to create a workshop for that. So that was really exciting. And then having opportunities just to talk with folks like, you know, just talk and talk story. Hibachi talk. Hibachi talk. Because of the things that I've done, I receive great invitations like this. And Wild Rose Communications, I mean, that's you. You started that. That's correct. That's yours.  That's high risk. High risk. High risk. High reward. Can we say that again? High risk. High risk. And hopefully a reward. I think so. Yeah.  There's some really cool things that you've got happening on there. Thanks. I registered. I did. I always get so excited when I have people register. It's so nice. It's great. So you must be watching it all the time. You got to go check it out, man. It's pretty cool. I'll do that. It's very, very good. Wild Rose Communications. On the break, watch. His lovely bride is the head of his company. So it's a woman-owned. A woman-owned soul. It's a woman-owned soul. The whole thing's woman-owned. Trust me. It's a woman-owned soul. That's why you're so successful. That's what I claim. Yeah. Okay. She's successful. You're just kind of hanging out.  She lets me come here. So, yeah, but things that you taught me when you were there was one of the things you said to me one day, which resulted in my head forever.  Correct. That's one of the lines you gave me when I went. Then I better be careful with what I say. Exactly. Because if I don't know what I'm talking about, then I better say I don't know what I'm talking about or just don't talk about it. Correct. We let Angus talk about that stuff. Yeah. And he's not even an expert at anything. I think that's a profound piece of information.  Exactly. And when they go, allegedly, or they try to puff up stories and so on, that's the 24-hour news thing that happened. So they're creating all the time. So they're trying to keep you watching for hours. They didn't have 24-hour news when you first got into the industry, did they? Not when I first got into it. You got into it, right? No, that was more like in the early to mid-2000s. Yeah, they told Teddy. He was crazy. Nobody's going to watch the news all day. Well, no one will unless you start to embellish on it. Yeah, because it's not quite news yet or it's evolving or whatever. And that's actually one of the reasons I found myself sort of overwhelmed by the news industry is because it was becoming 24-7 and it wasn't just putting your story out. You had to put your story out on different platforms and repurpose it for this and repurpose it for that. And then you're lost in doing that and you no longer have the passion for the story and the work that you're doing. And it just became really overwhelming. And that was one of the reasons I ended up moving on. Cool. Well, we're going to take a short break but I got to tell you what that looks like I like to jab you because you're going to jab me back hard. So I have a little slide here about the three top forms of communication. And I think number one is Twitter. Number two is the title of the last one is Tell a Woman. All the three fastest forms. Fastest forms. I don't know, I know some pretty gabby men so I can cut some slack on that. Tell it here. If you just tell it on a bunchy talk and the word will spread quickly. There you go. To all of our viewer. Anyway, we're going to take a little break. Back in a minute. Then we're going to talk about some cool stuff that Kayla's working on now. Okay, we'll see you in a minute. Hi, everyone. Ted Rawlson here, host of our think tech show where the drone leads. And a lot of you, of course, have been setting your clocks at four o'clock on Friday so that you can make sure you see our show. It's now changed. It's now going to be at noon on Thursdays. Noon on Thursdays, new standard time for where the drone leads. And where the drone leads is two systems like this, capabilities that we're using here in Hawaii these days. And we need you to pay attention to this. Be part of it. So see you at noon on Thursdays. Hi, this is Jane Sugimura. I'm the co-host for Condo Insider. And we're on think tech Hawaii every Thursday at three o'clock. And we're here to talk about condominium living and issues that affect condominium residents and owners. And I hope you'll join us every week on Thursday. Aloha. Hello, this is Martin Despeng. Please join me on my new show, Humane Architecture, like the one in the back that you see by architect David Rockwood. The show is going to be on Tuesdays, 5 p.m. here on think tech Hawaii in downtown Honolulu. See you then. Aloha, Kako. I'm Marcia Joyner, inviting you to navigate the journey with us. We are here every Wednesday morning at 11 a.m. And we really want you to be with us where we look at the options and choices of end of life care. Aloha. Hey, Aloha, everybody, and welcome back to Hibachi Talk. Got a quick security minute for you. Your Windows computers aren't very secure this weekend. Our friends, the shadow brokers who are, you know, launching all this allegedly weaponized malware that they got from the NSA, they put out a really big dump today of a lot of Windows exploits up through Windows 8 and some Windows Server 2012. It's going to take Microsoft a while to filter through. There's a lot of code there. But these are valid exploits, so be careful with your Windows PCs next few days. That's my warning. Angus, welcome back, buddy. What you got for us? How you doing? Very well, sir. It's nice to see you. Nice to meet you, Angus. Yeah, it's such a sweetie. Thanks. Good to know I always talk to a lot of nice things about you. I'm so glad. And how you get to meet you. It's very nice. And yeah, I got a re-gadget this week. You know, usually I'm complaining about government, but I got a little bit tired. Anyway, and we're talking about communication, so I wanted to go thematic. All right. So I want thematic. And there's this cool new device coming up, and they've been testing it in Hawaii. It's called E.  And so I walked up to the Japanese lassies and they say, hi there, lassie. How you doing? And look at this. It translates to Japanese. Oh. It's awesome. The problem is it understands English, but it doesn't understand Scotland. So I haven't even challenged with that. Ah, easy. But anyway, that's the gadget of the week. Right on. Do they rent them or buy them? You can buy them. And I'm waiting for the net release list. They're testing them in Hawaii. Oh, I see. So I'm going to get one. I'll be using it. It's fine.  You know me. How would I know that? You have a loud idea. Anyway, that's my gadget of the week. And like, I always say it at the end of the show, at the end of every week. It's like, let your win game free. Where are you be? Aloha. Don Angus always got a gadget for us. So if you're not too good with your Japanese interpretation, I don't know if it comes in multiple languages, but maybe you get out and try one out if you see one around town. We're back with Kayla. Kayla, glad to have you. Thank you so much. I think we're going to learn a little bit about your more recent projects. We've gotten a good dose of what you've been up to prior to now. So let's hear about it. So yeah, we got it. Yeah, and we have a graphic. Oh, really? Yeah. Can you do the graphic? Okay, go for it. You please. Okay, so Gordon is wearing my current occupation, Bill Aloha. I'm working for Habitat for Humanity. But how I got there is I am a AmeriCorps VISTA volunteer. AmeriCorps is the domestic Peace Corps. And then VISTA is volunteers in service to America. So through that capacity, there are about 60 of us throughout the state of Hawaii right now and Saipan. And each of us is assigned to a different organization and capacity. So there's food sustainability, there's housing, there's literacy, there's financial literacy to name the top four. So I'm assigned to housing and my assignment is Habitat for Humanity here in Kalihi. In Kalihi. So VISTA is, I didn't know this. So this is why we have this show. So VISTA is the local version of the Peace Corps. National, domestic. So it's domestic version of the Peace Corps. Correct. It's actually AmeriCorps is the domestic version of the Peace Corps. And then VISTA has different programs underneath it. Okay. That's a good idea. See, I didn't even know anything about this. So across the country there are hundreds and hundreds of VISTA volunteers doing, as I mentioned, food security and all those things that I mentioned. So, okay, how do we get the word out then? Well, this will be one way. But I mean, how are you getting the word out? How are you communicating this to the nation that this exists? Well, last week there was a conference bringing together all the VISTA volunteers and dignitaries who appreciate and know of us. So that was out, a lot of that was streamed live. And then we had the conference at the Hilton Hawaiian Village and we had heads of local businesses come and speak with us and do different workshops and things like that. But primarily it's up to us as the VISTA volunteers to talk about what we're doing. So how big is the membership? Do you have an idea? I know there are several hundred of us across the country right now. Okay. And we work, VISTA is a one-year service. So each of us have a one-year term compared to the International Peace Corps, it's a two-year term. Oh, okay. Also it's the same model as the Peace Corps but in this country. Yeah, for internal projects. For internal projects. And so with Habitat for Humane, so are you, I see Bill the Loha, so are you supplying materials, labor? What's your, what do you do actually do? Okay, so just one more thing about VISTA. So like the Peace Corps itself, people from around the country are placed in different communities. So like there's a young lady working right now at Kalihi Palama Health Center. She's there from Minnesota. Oh, wow. Okay, so here's a young woman who is going to be working with the Micronesian population, right? So it's the domestic version of what you would do on an international capacity. All right, so in terms of what I do at Habitat for Humanity, I'm there primarily as, in my capacity as a communications consultant, but I'm not there as a consultant. I'm there as a VISTA volunteer. And my job is to help them increase their brand recognition. Okay. Because Habitat for Humanity gets mixed up with Habitat, for example. Oh, yes. Okay, so Habitat is housing. Habitat is drug rehabilitation. Okay, but for some reason, people tend to mix that up. I did. Okay, so that's the first thing. The second thing is, Habitat for Humanity has a primary revenue stream through what we call the Restore. And the Restore is a donation warehouse where anybody can donate materials and then those materials are sold and the proceeds go to building homes for families that qualify for the program. Oh, awesome. So I've started to see some of these restores pop up. We have one in Waimea and the Big Island. Right. Now... There's seven in Hawaii. There's seven in Hawaii. Now, the thing that made it a challenge for me was that I started into an old Goodwill place. Okay. So I thought they had just rebanded Goodwill. Oh.  Because I wasn't... Yeah, so after we talked, I went, oh, and I bought stuff from there because I'm building a house up there and they had light bulbs. Yep. I mean, they don't just sell construction stuff, but they can sell... There's all kinds. There's dishes. Yes, we used furniture, housewares. Oh, I didn't know that. Construction company is doing a project and they've left over materials. Donate it to the restore. You get a tax write-off. We sell it. We make money and are able to house people. Yeah, they had cable. I mean, they had boxes of cable. Wire. Tiles. We had Scofield Inn donated 20,000 square feet of laminate flooring. Whirlpool has donated at least 60 new appliances. Wow. That's awesome. We had malarkey... Malarkey. Malarkey. Roofing donated shingles. Wow. So it's those kinds of corporate donations that make a huge difference, but then the general public can come and donate anything as well. Now, those materials that get donated, they are... Can the general public purchase those? Are they going to be focused on affordable housing? No, it's for the general public. It's for the general public. Right. And then the proceeds from those sales get turned over to housing funds. Oh. Gotcha. Okay. Wow. Interesting. This is... It's a good idea. I feel like this is breaking news because I see them around, but we've never... I don't understand anyone on television. So there's two on Oahu. There's two restores on Oahu. The one in Honolulu, which is on Austin Street in Kalihi Tomashiro Market. Across from Tomashiro's Market. Okay. There's Austin Lane and it's down a little dead end. And one of the things we want to do is find a better location. Yeah, you need some street visibility. We do need some street visibility. So that's one of the things I'm hoping to appeal to your listeners and viewers is if you're in real estate or construction and you know of a warehouse, maybe 10,000 square feet, we're looking for that kind of space so that we can expand and help serve the community, but also expand our opportunities to make ourselves known. Right. And then the other one is in Campbell Industrial Park. Okay. It serves Leeward Oahu. Okay, cool. Now, we're down to one minute, so we're going to give you 30 seconds to get your final message across that you want to get. And I was like, oh my God, you finished this. You went through it fast. Didn't it go through fast? Yeah, I guess it is. We should throw that graphic up.  So if you are a, say, a family that's in need of decent low-income housing, if you look starting from my left side of the screen, you go through an application process and you're vetted for your ability to not default on a 0% loan. Your ability to have $1,000 to cover basic materials and to provide sweat equity, because part of the program is that partner families must provide sweat equity. I like it. That's why the cost of their, their cost of the project is so low. So I'm going to put this graphic on the Hibachi Talk website. I'll put that up. Awesome. So it'll be there and obviously it's going to be on the show. And unfortunately, I cut the bottom off a little bit. It's just this habitat for humanity, but we got that. And it's all about building Aloha. It's building Aloha. It's all about building Aloha. This is pretty cool. Kayla, it's so great to have you on this show. It's awesome. Awesome. And no guest goes unrewarded. Okay, here it is. So here is our autographed solo cup. You can, I don't want to, I don't expect to see this getting for set up the restore. No, I'm going to keep that on my desk. Yeah, for sure. Number 113 in the series. Wow. Very cool. Very cool. I'm honored. Thank you. Thank you, Kayla. And we'll have you on the show again, because I think we've got only the story. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. That'll be great. Andrew and Gordo, thanks. That's awesome. And don't forget about the windows. Leave your machines off this weekend, I think might be a good thing. Wait for some updates. And like we said at the end of every show, one, two, three. How you doing?


Hello, welcome to the Everton News Daily. Metro Mayor Steve Rotherham has spoken out on Everton's appeal against their 10-point deduction. He said that whatever the outcome of the appeal, this entire OPAC process has left us with more answers from the overly harsh initial sanction. Small clubs and the Premier League's attempt to shift the goalposts midway through. This culture of secrecy has done nothing to foster trust and he's absolutely spot on. The whole process has been a shambles from start to finish. Richard Masters has had an absolute nightmare. I think he thought he was being clever and puffing his chest out trying to head off the independent regulator, but the whole process is pathetic. It should never have dragged on. This long evidence shouldn't be left in limbo. Notting him forward shouldn't be left in limbo.  How can you have open-ended processes? It's an absolute joke and it needs shorting. There you go. Trevor Steven today spoke exclusively to Toffy TV and gave us his opinion on Everton's point of deduction. Well, I'm going to be really boring here, right? You can only deal with the next game. A home or a wing doesn't matter. They've got three points there to win. I don't look beyond that. Honestly, it's not worth it. I know the fans have to and they're plotting down how many points we might actually get. What they might get and how many points we'll get back from the deduction. Just we need to take care of ourselves, take care of the next game, take care of business. And the fans have got to stick with the club and not look too far down the line. Just deal with the next game. That's when we're going to get as much energy behind the team as we can because we need that. I felt at times we were running around for no purpose sometimes, I thought, in the game on Monday night. It means the heads have gone a bit. We need to get back to being collective and that means with the crowd as well. I'm still confident we're going to stay up. I really am confident. No matter what happens, points wise, and that's how you need to think about it. Eric Dyer has opened up on his time at Everton Football Club. Speaking to the Everton website, he said it was such a great club. When I was there, it was a fantastic place inside Finch Farm. There was a fantastic culture. It felt like a family. Obviously, it's huge Premier League club, but inside the training ground, it felt very tight in it. You have Phil Neville, Michela Tete, Marwan Fellini, Sylvan Distan, Leighton Bain, Seamus Coleman, Phil Jagielke. He's basically just naming the team. So many top players and to see them in action was great for me. I had Bill Kenne night two. I think the club was a reflection of him at that time. Very warm with a real family feel to it. He does say in the interview, he wondered whether he'd ever be physically ready to play in the Premier League after looking at Sylvan Distan and the shape he was in, but obviously Dyer did go on to play Premier League football for Tottenham. He also says he was Everton wanted them to stay, but in his mind, he wanted to go back to sport and because that was his club and he was only young at the time, but a good interview. You want to check it out on Everton's website. Finally, last night, Everton released a statement backing Mason Holgate after the Everton defender received racist abuse following his sending off in the 5-0 home defeat by Brighton and how well being on Sunday. Everton said, Everton Football Club strongly condemns the racist and discriminatory abuse Mason Holgate has suffered. Such abuse is vile, will not and should not be tolerated. The club offers Mason its full support and praises his actions for speaking out. We must all take a zero tolerance stance by reporting such behaviour to social media platforms and the authorities. Racism has no place online in our stadia or in our communities. Holgate did post some of the conversations, some of the comments that he had been sent, which were absolutely disgusting. Yes, it was a red card, this challenge, but to receive that kind of abuse following it is an absolute disgrace and it doesn't have any place in our game. Sheffield United also condemned the abuse that Mason Holgate has received following that red card. And finally, there will be an interview out with Trevor Stephen, Everton legend, so make sure you check that out on this channel, give that a watch as well. Give this video a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't and if you want to become a Toffy TV Premier member where there are no adverts on the videos and there are daily live exclusive shows, click the link in the description or the QR code that will be on the screen now. Thanks for watching, see you later.