Live from San Francisco, it's theCUBE. Covering Red Hat Summit 2016. Brought to you by Red Hat. Now here are your hosts, Stu Miniman and Brian Graceley. Welcome back, happy to have on the program, return guests, Craig Mozillo's senior vice president of application platforms, business group, Red Hat. Craig, thanks so much for joining us again. Yeah, it's great to be back. All right, so, you know, it got some news in here and it was also talked about in the keynote. This is really the 10th anniversary of Red Hat entering the application development market. You know, what does that mean? How far have we come? Oh, it's huge. You know, if you go back to the whole history of Red Hat and open source, you know, over 20 years now, it's starting really as a hobbyist thing to begin with in the 1990s. And then with, you know, the advent of RHEL in the early 2000, 2002-ish timeframe, making it enterprise ready. And we then took that to the next step, which is not only the infrastructure in creating an alternative, an open source alternative for operating systems, but then looking at how do developers create things and making it enterprise ready. That's what the journey that we started 10 years ago with the acquisition of JBoss. And then now open source is absolutely proven not only at the infrastructure level, but at the application development level, and not just with what we started with, which was the app server, but a full portfolio of services and technologies for any need and use inside of the enterprise. And then now the transition to cloud, private and hybrid cloud environments. Okay, and the announcement, it's the enterprise application platform, or EAP-7, is now generally available. It gives us the highlights. Yeah, so we worked on this for many years. We ran some of the specifications that were at the heart of EE7 many years ago. And so now it's officially released. It supports the EE7 specification, but more importantly, it sets the foundation for being able to create Java-based microservices in cloud environments, a much lighter footprint, and it sets the stage for moving Java forward even from into the future. Yeah, one of the things, you can't talk to a large customer these days where they're not worried about, the term is sort of getting uberized. One of these fast-moving startups taking over, they sort of understand things are becoming more digital. I've got to enable via mobile. I've got to enable physical goods. What does that conversation look like when CIOs come and talk to you and they go, how do I do this faster? What do I need to think about? What does that conversation look like? It's my favorite conversation. I have that conversation all the time. Even with well-established customers we're already pretty deep into. They want to hear our view about where things are heading. And so they are all thinking about digital transformation. And it's not just the web startups, but it's traditional insurance companies, traditional auto manufacturers. Everybody is thinking about how do I incorporate software into my products and services to add more value so I don't get uberized. And so then we start talking about a vision of, well the way, what you create, how you create it, and the platforms that you use to create that technology to be able to be responsive, move fast are all going to change. And so we have to lay out that vision when we talk to those CIOs. And every large company has sort of the advantage and the disadvantage of legacy. To some extent it's a disadvantage. You've got customer data, you've got the market data, but you have the legacy disadvantage. But what is the conversation, if somebody says, hey, do I move everything to these new platforms? Is it only the new stuff? Like, how do you take a portfolio and move it into this new world? How do I think about that? Sometimes you think about it carefully. In all seriousness, I think it's a pretty well established that I think it's going to be a hybrid world. That's why we've bet our strategy on what we call open hybrid cloud. We think there's going to be a world where there are still traditional systems that are physical that perhaps you don't touch. Maybe they're transactional in nature or have some extremely extreme security requirements that they don't want to touch. And then there's going to be absolutely avant-garde new development, extremely lightweight. But you're even in that scenario where you set up an environment that there's consistency between that physical, virtual, private cloud and public cloud environments, you're still going to need to be able to integrate and talk to that legacy system.  That's one of the conversations we'd like to have with customers. We saw Target gave a great keynote yesterday. Amadeus has been talked about. We talked to J-Crew yesterday. A bunch of customers who are kind of rediscovering their own application development, right? What advice do you give to companies when they say, hey look, I think I'm going to have to bring that back in-house. I'm going to have to go recruit great engineers. I'm going to have to work in open source communities. How do you help guide them? Because obviously Red Hat has a ton of experience on the open source side. How do you help guide them? It's interesting. I think we had a big conversation yesterday with a number of customers on this very topic. How do we get the best, the question was how do you get to find the best talent, the most innovative talent, and if everybody, if every company is a software company, isn't the competition going to get much more intense for this talent? One of the, certainly all the environmental factors, the cultural factors that people talk about, that Target talks about in terms of trying to hire the best engineers, even out of California, perhaps to move to Minnesota. I think those are all true. We like to give the advice of open source because the majority of innovation right now is happening with open source, open source project, all the cloud technologies are based on open source. The interesting thing is, if customers get involved in those communities, they can find talent in those open source communities. They can find exchange of ideas. One of the ways that we recruit great talent, frankly, is just our involvement in all these communities and all of these developers from all over the world participating, just sharing ideas, using the technology, contributing code. You find some of the best people through that whole open source collaborative environment. It makes for an interesting conversation. Microsoft bought LinkedIn because they thought they had the data for people, but GitHub really knows where the software developers are. Is that maybe a more valuable property in this all software world that we're moving towards? GitHub's a great property, and yes, they are connecting everything to everyone, so we, yeah, for Microsoft, I don't know. I don't want to talk about Microsoft's strategy, but it's certainly a great asset for software developers. Interesting data, yeah, for people marketplace. There's been some stuff going on in the Java community, in terms of people trying to, you talked about it, moving Java to microservices, thinking about is it Java, Java EE, all the different variations. What's going on in the world that people should make sense of all these announcements and new projects that are coming along? Yeah, there's, if you look at any of the statistics from companies like Redmonk, who track the developer use and languages and language use, Java is still the number one used language, probably second after that would be JavaScript and Node.js, and then it works its way down from there into many different dynamic languages, et cetera. So Java is here to stay, and much of the technology being developed is based on Java. I think what is changing is the specifications on how Java is going to be used. We announced on Monday a new concept called the microservices profile. It's a very, very lightweight definition of how you could use Java or enterprise Java in a cloud-based environment in a microservice. And so we partnered with IBM and a number of other vendors. We have a number of other vendors that have not announced themselves yet to start participating. Whether that makes its way into specifications through something like a JCP, or whether it just has enough of its own community just to establish a new way, a new profile, with support of those new community members. It's unclear exactly where it's going, but we're certainly committed to it. We think it's extremely important, and we think companies and customers are looking for some guidance and some leadership here. The flip side of Java in the enterprise is .NET in the enterprise, .NET 1.0 now, available on RHEL, available. How important is that for enterprise customers? We think it's extremely important. If you look at most of the public cloud use, the underlying operating systems are Linux-based, and so now that you're in much of the innovation taking place with new technologies, whether it's things like Adoop and Spark, usually start with a Linux-based as that innovation. So now, if Linux is going to be that important for the future, for public or private clouds, the ability to program in .NET and run that natively in a Linux environment is extremely important. So we're delighted to be working with Microsoft on this. We're really excited. Our developer team who made the announcement on Monday, we have a couple of former Microsoft executives that help with our developer initiatives. They're just extremely excited about the possibilities there. So Craig, over the last 10, 15 years, we've really seen the Linux admin skill sets proliferating around a lot of the data centers. What's interesting, you guys have a separate event for Dev Nation. Talk a little bit about the Linux admin and the developer and how those overlap and how we look at it from a show standpoint too. Yeah, the show certainly some it has been evolving. When, as you mentioned, 10 years ago, even 12 or 13 years ago, it was certainly a Linux admin type of audience. Now it's much more enterprise audience and a much more developer-centric audience. And so you see things like the demo that Burst Sutter just conducted about an hour ago, which integrated both the Ops side and the Dev side. In regards to Dev Nation, we had always had a number of developer quote unquote programs and initiatives at Red Hat. So we had something called JBoss World. We had something called Camel One for the Camel community. And what we decided to do is bring it all together and invite the rest of the world to participate in open source-centric developer topics. And so that spawned the idea of Dev Nation, hold it right before summit, but bring in the developers that wanna get into the weeds and really wanna get their hands dirty. So we hold hackathons, but we're also inviting folks like all of our colleagues now at Microsoft and other companies to participate in Dev Nation. So it's not just a Red Hat thing, but it's really trying to be an open source, developer-centric movement in the marketplace. That's the whole idea around Dev Nation. Okay, I wanna give you the final word. Give us a state of application development. If you look down the road, what should we expect to see over the next six or 12 months? Yeah, I mean, I think if anyone has application developer skills in the marketplace, they should be confident because I think there's a great job market for them for many, many years to come. Everything that we do in life now is gonna have software somehow associated with it. And in terms of app dev, I think you're gonna see a lot more flexibility, a lot more variety, the whole idea of polyglot, the variety of languages that are being used. You're gonna see more trends, certainly microservices and cloud-based architectures, cloud-native development. But you're also gonna see much more from citizen developers. So the idea of no-code or low-code development where people and business people are now starting to change the nature of the applications, change behavior of apps without having to go into code. The reason for it is just the numbers are going to dictate it. You're never gonna find enough software developers to be a digital economy. So it's gonna be important to remain competitive that companies now start applying and using other technologies to help advance the cause. And so I think you'll see a lot more of that happening as well. All right, well Craig Mozilla, really appreciate you giving us the updates. We'll be back with lots more coverage here from Red Hat Summit 2016. You're watching theCUBE. Thank you.


So this is game number six Hi guys, we're back. That was a quick little break. So game number six We're gonna go out and run a nice roll as soon as the light came down during sunset Energy level just came down a little bit and then now speaking Nice to have you Here's the Yeah, that should be a video will take you to The basically the way we play and the description has linked to the It just started one show. Oh, yeah, it takes a while See sometimes there's a kickoff sometimes just dies Sometimes I don't put any tags on this so it's probably not getting picked up by a lot. It's good everything's good I Did shop on I wasn't here you guys are shuffling. Yeah, I didn't see You shuffled you can't knock your cut on the shuffle that you did The nice Here we go boom boom boom. Okay. Now boardwalk cope as well. Okay, so many chances one of them Where are they they're both? No, it's me. Oh Oh Two greens are burns. It's gonna be a lot of money in this game. Yeah Let me count my cash What did you say You sure I got That should be How much did you say instead of what? So Lily should be 500 You can be So 590 that means only $10 a lot Which it might be me let's see 100 plus 200 300 so 475 375 and that doubles in to My 50 is 750 back Zero Plus Minus So $150 minus? $590. $590 equals? $560? No, $440. Yeah, I'm counting. $560? $440. So we're $120 off now. Can I use this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to get tea. Thank you. $600? Yes. That might be me. $720? Oh, you guys didn't fill up the color. No? No, I got four more color on there. Wait, can we get more? $440. Fresh tea. $840. $840. $840. $940. $960. $960. $1,210. $1,210. $590. $460. Instead of $560. So we're still $20 off. We're still $20 off. And I swear I always get the properties that are still for sale. That's why. Did you count that this is Pennsylvania and not the 300? Yeah. Did I pass the calculator? Did everyone count the person to the left? What? Minus $560. $960. Plus $220. Plus $300. Plus $140. Now minus my money, which is $750. You have $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. $890. Now, Liddy, you have $590 for the $640. Yes, $900 as well. $980. We're $20 over. Why? Are we counting everything this year? Yeah, I thought we were counting everything this year, although that should be fine. Minus $5Master's, really? Everyone count to the left just to quickly get the stuff. Everyone just count to the left? Don't take your Kurds. Because it's a very fine. He said 9 and that's right. 9 is right.  I gave away my $500. I'm not going with the yellows with $500. Yeah, but you can mortgage those. You can mortgage those. I have $200, but I'm glad we came up with that. I can't believe I didn't do that. You wouldn't have that week. Yeah, we were looking at the yellows for you. Our whole trade was in argument and then just all the time. No, man. But you're saying I'm okay with this money. You want to give me the yellows? I'll give you these. Then you have to pay the money value. I'm giving you this. But you're saying I'm okay with this money. You're saying $500 is enough to do with this. Huh? I'm saying I'm giving you this. You give me the orange. I'm not charging you extra money. And if you want to find, I'll pay you $50 more. No. This isn't the kind of thing where it's like you're just going to drain. How much money does he have? I'm not draining, but you have $900. I gave him $500. You're getting the best monopoly. I'm getting one of the worst. The bottom line is you can't blame your draw on this. No, you know it's not fair. Okay, then let's do opposite. We just switch money and I get the... Not switch money. You're saying I'm okay with $500 in yellows? I'm saying that I'm giving you extra money edge and $50 more. But it's like, what do you expect? What do you expect? This is worth $260. That's worth $180. Dude, you know yellows. That's already a difference of $80. I'm giving you another $50 that's $130. Dude, I have $440. You got a shitty draw. Don't pull me down with you. Yeah, but you're offering me $40 to $50. I'm saying at least a couple hundred. Yeah, man. We made deals here, we made deals there, so I could make this happen. Not so you can just... You can make it happen, but it's not reasonable to just do flat fate. Best monopoly for one of the worst. I'm giving you a little extra money. Instead of the money, I can give you this. This is $150 value for me. I already gave two railroads away and a Baltic, man. You have to understand this. Yeah. I'm going to give you this, and I'm just going to have the oranges. And that's the best offer I'm going to... You have all those to the mortgage, there's those you can buy. That's it, buddy. Put a hundred on that, that's fair. No way, man. That's as far as I'm going. That's ridiculous what you're asking for. No, it's not. I have $400 with yellows, man. What are you talking about? But you want me to get the yellows? Yeah, we could do a money swap. I'm glad to take yellows. All right, I'll give you these. This is $2,380. You give me these. $280, $260. So what's the difference, Nardog? Sorry, I wasn't listening. No, I'm not paying you more. No, let's just see what the difference is. $380, $100, that's $160. So when you're giving me this, I'm giving you this.  I need like, how much $1,200? The yellows suck. You know what I suck? In the beginning, you offered a flat trade. $380, actually. A flat trade is still your gaining value. I'm losing value. Dude, forget about the money value. How about we just do a flat rate and you get oranges? If you think the flat rate is bad for me, we'll do a flat rate the other way around. Flat rate? A flat change. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You want to do it? Okay, let's do it. No money difference. No money difference. Yeah, let's do it like that. Of course, I will take no money difference, dude. Let's do it like that. You two have very rough negotiations. Yeah, crazy. It's very tough for you two to get to a deal. Dude, he said I'll give you yellow for like... I feel like me and Armick have good synergy in deals. Me and Lydia are in a movie. Because at some point, you're just saying you have good synergy for deals.  Would you have taken that deal? Dude, it all covered up. The first offer, which was yellow for orange. It's like with no money difference. Talking for so long for like... Literally like pennies, basically, sometimes. This is me. No, man. I was done with yellow. Oh, it's me. Let's check it out. These are like those documentation cards. Okay. Let's do... Let's do... See who rolls first. Oh, nice. This is important. Not the railroads, man. Yeah, four railroads. He's ready to buy someone's soul with those. Yeah, the soul buy. I want first round to hit people. Boom. 200 bucks. 200 bucks. 200 bucks. Yeah. Let's do this, snake eyes. Five. Boom. That's a nice roll. That's a nice roll. Oh, that's me. 12. All I can say is... Five. Yeah. Five. Five. Oh, go to railroad, pay twice the amount. Oh. Oh. He passed it. Go. 200 bucks. Imagine you had the oranges.  That was game over if you had the oranges. Thank God you guys would come around. If you want to pass go, you're going to come around. 10 bucks. 10 bucks. Here you go. Oh, yeah. What's available? Space. Oh, yeah. I know what's available. Yeah, Pacific and Pennsylvania. Oh. That's where you get to get the oranges. Yeah. Well, now it's fair deal. Five. Oh. To the free parking. I want 100. It's one of those games, man. Scary. Scary. Well, I have 100. That's a good way for your card to get out. Right off the bat. Am I 200? No. Probably not. I'm surprised. I thought you were both going to pay 200. Okay. 30. 20. And reading is interesting. Because every time you get 20. Oh, money plus 4. 40 is 7. 60 plus 150 is 9. 10 plus how much money do you have? 5. 90. 5. 90. Okay, last one. What did you say? 5. 90. 3. 20 plus 4. 40 is... 3. 20. 4. 40. That's 7. 60. Plus 150 is 9. 10. Plus 5. 90. Is 1,500. 150. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. Oh, that's good too. That's a big loot. That's a big loot. 9. 20. Wow. 6. 2. 20. That was sick. I didn't have a chance to build. That's right. Oh, yeah. You've jumped them. And he's got tons of money. How could you jump them? How? Wow. Vahe, vahe. You know what you need for him? He has a sweet scent. 2. It's so relieving when you can't go to jail in the first way around. Best deal. 2. 4. 6. No. 6 houses. Not 6 houses. That's 900. Alright. Did you throw the beams in the fridge? I did. No, I didn't. Oh, you did? 6 houses. A 10 is so sweet. What was the last time you used the craps table? I made it a video. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. I haven't used it, but for a real game, I haven't played it. We could have done it. We could have done it. It is fun.  6. Yeah. That's cool. My turn? I'll take snake eyes. Oh, so close. So close. So close. So close. So close. Give me a good breath. 16. Railroad money. Railroad money. 11. Railroad money. Tellin' you, buddy. They're not hot tonight. Railroad money. I know some experience, man. 6. It's not their night. It's not their night. They're gonna do it right here. It's not their night. Oh, cool. Not their night. That is nice stuff. Where is it? It'll be established by... 4. 8. Look at this movement. Look at this movement. 32. I'll take an 11. 20 bucks back. An 11? 9. I'll take an 11. 9 is up. Oh, 18. Oh. Hi, Lily. Hi. You too? Yeah. Thanks. Gracias.  6. 6. You and your flip rules... Flip in the last second, man. It's me. No, sir. Roll on 140. It was just hoping it wasn't wrong. You gotta say you want to buy one. It's obvious, but yeah. Lydia, you should have rolled, sir. It wasn't obvious. It made me discrepancy. Fight to the death, friends. I'm counting my cash, man. I'm counting my cash, man. I'm counting my cash, man. I need doubles. So good. Come on. That's super sweet, man. Super sweet, guys. Oh, that's nice. Oh, go to Railroad. Come on. Lonatures. Oh, houses. House guards. No, I got... Any offers? I'm just gonna... I'm gonna try and bankrupt you with the blue, but... That doesn't work. Then I will make some offers. I'll do an eight. But you can't build yet. No need to rush it. I'll do an eight. That is nice. That is super sweet. I will do an eight. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, right. Sweet point. Oh, actually, I guess... Sweet. You got nothing else to spend. Yeah, yeah. Sweet point. Just give me a little bit. What is that? Eight? Eight? Yes. Oh, eight two. 25 chicken. I need some change. Libby, come on. I've only been paid once on the Railroad. How about a nine? Five forty-two. It's fine. Five forty-two. Nine is super sweet. No way. Six and a three. Six and advanced goals. Railroad. Twice demon. You're annoying. Oh! I passed the eight. Damn. All right, look. 1,200. You guys know what 1,200 means. That means game winning number. Oh, look at that, look at that. Boom. Where is he at? Where is he at? Oh, yeah. You need double fours. A little free parking, you got it? Yeah. I got free parking, which was huge. And you gave me a hundred bucks. Yeah, yeah. Look at that movement. Now you need double fours. All right. Double fours. Three. Three? Four is nice. Oh, you owe me ten bucks. It's my say Charles' card. Damn it. I didn't even notice. Oh, oh. That's still a good spot though. I almost wanted to tell you. Habara. Habara. Seven is sweet. Five. Seven is sweet. Oh. 200 bucks plus. Oh, yeah. And you know how the dollar received 25 bucks. It pays for quite a bit of the purchase, dude. It's like 10% of the purchase. Oh, someone had to. Yeah. Someone had to get it there. 8.30. Mosquito bite. 3.30. It's more like a wasp. Yeah. That one is a stinger. 3.30. Yeah. That's three ounces. He's not going to raise a stinger. Three hundred cash, right? 3.70 in cash. It's just 3.30. Do you have a 20? Yes, I do. Thank you. All right. This is 7.50. Oh, and Lily is going for it. Double twos, Lily. Heart four. Oh. Heart eight. Heart eight. Heart eight. 32. Heart six. I want a 12 here. I don't have any. 12. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 52. 12. You're 52? 11. Nine is nice. Nine is nice. It's yours too. I know. This is my favorite part of the game. Where is it? We're getting all the houses come up. Really? No, 28. Everyone still has hope of winning the game. Everyone's a bit happy. It gets crushed though. So fun. Oh yeah. One more house. Five biddies.  Five biddies. Short lines with three biddies. Five biddies. Yeah. Oh. Oh my god. That's big. Because it's my property, buddy. Where are we at? Where are we at? He needs a four. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. He's jamming. He's jamming the whole house. Hold on a second. Let's see. He's jamming. 600 for you. It's not going to be good, is it? Here's 150. That's 200. 250. 300. What's the tune of the blue? 300 is how many? 300 is six houses. Six houses. So here's six houses with Pennsylvania down. Six houses. Let's take down... No, thanks. Six houses. Let's make it... Let's go another hundred. Two more houses? Yeah. So four houses of pop. Let's do four houses of pop. Let's do four houses of pop. Biddy. Yeah, I know. You're thinking about boardwalk, right? Seven. Oh, no. Seven. What? You were thinking about boardwalk, weren't you? What are you thinking about boardwalk? No, because you are coming. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Oh, yeah. One hundred two million. One hundred two million. Yeah, one hundred. Which one? Pennsylvania. Two Pennsylvania's down. Look at this. No railroads yet? What's going on? Yeah. You made the wrong deal. 800, no? 850? 850. Is he out? Yeah, he's out. You're out. I get the orange. You gave all this? Oh, dude. That's like hardcore. That is so hardcore. Let's take someone out. Eleven, Liddy. Seven, Liddy. Eleven. Oh, my God. Where are you going? Nowhere. Oh, she's gone. Oh, my God. What? Ask where you're going. Pretty good. What are you doing? He's good. Eight. Five. Eight. Six. Oh, my God. I'm going twice the amount. Oh, I'm getting that jail. That's where I'm going. Oh, I was advised. One, two, three, four, five, dude. I did not like all 25. He's giving in. One more house for now, Reg. Nice. Can you continue the construction? Eight. Nine. Five. Nice. We're all happy with that. All right, I'll tell you guys. What did you get? Income tax. Income tax? Dude, that's right between my two properties.  No, it's only you've landed in Railroad. That's it. What's going on? You ain't staying in Cheap Street. Cheap Street. It's all over, buddy. The moment's gone. Cheap Street. Cheap Street. It's my first roll. First roll. Eight. Eight. Eight. Eight. Yes. Yes. Here. Oopsies. Fix. Collapse. No, wait. Chill. Chill. Chill. 50 plus 150. It's 200. Yeah. How much? 850. Oh, man. That's it. Six houses. That's not it. Six houses. Oh, that is so painful. 50 plus 50. Everyone jump, Park Place and Boardwalk. Why couldn't I get one of you, at least? Boardwalk, Park Place. Oh, one would do. 600 plus. 600 plus. 75. Seven 75. Yeah. That's it. Three, totally rejuvenate. Just kick them. Yeah. Well, enough cash, man. Start off small, but, who's that last person that landed? Give me life on the two houses, those little ones. I did. Well, I'm three houses. Well, there was two that first one. Yeah, and then you got three. Oh, yeah. Fuck. You've been a double banger. It wasn't looking good anyway, man. 400 bucks. It's not enough. Wow, for the oranges, if you had, it would have been working. I took kids everywhere. How many times do I got to teach you the last thing I have to do? I haven't done the deal. Who's turn? And I got this. You want to buy states, buddy? It's your turn, man.  I got the orange. Go ahead. I was out with the oranges. I guess the oranges. 280. 280. 280. Look at the money coming in. Look at the money coming in. Damn it, man. These blues, let me down, big time. They paid off last time. They're not going to pay off again, man. Well, one time. Just ended one landing, man. I got my six houses. Thank you. First round. 28 bucks. 28. First round. Go. First round. I can sit in the other place. At least, like, give me my states. All right. I was put in between these two, like, pillars. No, you're going to sit sideways on a one-take here. The way by here? Yeah, but I thought it was in his space. Oh, no. I got a space. He's going to land here. Yeah. I hope so. I really do hope so. Hmm. Oh, it's over there.  I'm going to build four houses. I take that five. Instead, I'm going to make one house here and one house here. I guess 150 bucks. Okay. Time for you to get a five. Yep. Okay, well, then I'm getting a five. Four houses. So they're completely trying to move on. Troubles. Troubles. Troubles. Oh, double fours. Oh, crappy. Man. Should have built. What a railroad. They twice came out. Come on. How hard is it? Oh, that's me. Twice. He's got to roll again eight times. Twice. That's a scare. That's a scare. So.  No, it's my second one. Man, dude, you would have been in such a good spot. I'll take a, I'll take a five. What did you say? Seven. Oh, I'll go two. I'm three spaces. Did you say? I'll go four. Oh, railroad. Nice. Oh, no. What's this? That should have been. That should have been 400 bucks from somebody. No, it's nothing. All right. It's my second roll. Little five. Come on. All right. Six. 11. Nine.  This is that. Five. Five. I'm building it. This one. Five. Damn, man. Railroads. Just came once. That was your second roll. How was that? Seven houses. Oh, that's your good car fever. The railroad car. Yeah, sure. I'm going to get seven houses. A little bit of affordable housing on St. James for her. That's eight. No, I had one there. Oh, did you? I'm sorry. We're so little. I didn't mean to say that. All right. I'll land you in the fact that my house is not dry. At least I'm getting... Oh, my book. Oh, you've got more good news. Thanks. Okay. Let's do... Shorter line goes down. Right? That's 100 bucks. Make these hotels. Is that what you should be doing? Make these hotels? I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's about once a month. No. Shoreline goes down. These stay for four. And Pennsylvania. Oh, no. B&O I still got two. So they make hotels. And B&O goes down. Pennsylvania comes up. Is that correct? How many houses do you have in the beginning? Two houses. So you added two houses. Alt-A. Ten. Oh, come again. Four. Five is four. Eight. 200 bucks. We got money Five, give me two hundred please. It's not too much to add. You can sell for free, huh? One, two, three, twelve, five, twelve. What are you using? It is, it is bankrupt C. Wow. What is it? Five, fifteen. That's a rare case of blues KOing someone. That's true. No, blues KO people man. No, you have, boardwalk. I know, that's already included. Oh, Lily's in the power seat. Damn. I started this game so well, like God. Two hundred bucks. Two hundred bucks. My life's not with you, man. It doesn't matter. I know, man. It doesn't matter how good it is. Dude, I passed KO so quick. Another little coaster. Everyone was here. Load up the blues. In five players, there's only so many times you can go around. Both rare roads come out. Thank you, dude. You gotta hit the first solo. That's two hundred and twenty bucks. Put this in and get the 80 bucks back. Damn. Okay. Make sure Army doesn't win. What? I want the pot. You know I want the pot. That was good, too. You know I want the pot. I have about a six. I'll take a six. Seven. Seven is good. Seven is good. I like seven. Lily. Eight. Three. Eight. Four. Double twos. One, four. Double twos. Four. Man. Ten. Look at that ten. Look at that ten. Oh, double twos. Look at that six. No. Look at that six. Oh, eight. Go to... Charlotte. Go back three spaces. What? How much? Six hundred bucks. Damn. I didn't want him to get it. Go back three spaces. That is the crapest role. Wait here. No bank today. Okay, hold on. So what are we sitting at? Oh, man. This game might be over next round. What are we going to do? So... Let it lands. I like how they're six apart. They're scared about this. And then after, it's like, ah, six hundred. If I take it, it goes down. It's two fifties. A slight little break, and then back again. Three ten. But they could go to jail. Four hundred. They're going to take two roads. Over again. Four railroads. Four railroads. That's four railroads. Oh yeah, you're going to have to throw me. I'm going to take that four railroads. Four railroads down. Previously we had two railroads. Four hundred. We're going to need that back. Four... seventy-five. How much is it? So four hundred for railroads. You're talking six hundred dollars here, buddy. Four hundred for railroads. Okay. Five hundred. Five seventy-five. Six hundred. Oops. Give him six hundred. I'm not the bank. Oh. What's going on here? I didn't even hear a word for the last five minutes. I thought I was just staring blank. I'm like, what? Okay, I'm going to mortgage this. Three seventy-five. Goal back three spaces. I had a feeling. I'm sorry. I didn't do it. I wasn't even thinking about it. You had this feeling, too, right? I wasn't even thinking about it. I know you do. I know you do. I know you do. I know you do. I'm not thirty-seven in the middle. Where are you going? It's over. It's free. It's not over. It's not over. All right. All right. Roll the dice, brother. I need to come all the way here. Oh, my God.  Where'd they go? I was going to make some money. You know when there's people waiting, right? I'm just going to make one house. That's the rule, I think. I guess it's just... Oh, thank God. I thought you got a six. I got so scared. Oh, my throat. How about a... Good luck.  I'll take a twelve. Eight. So, it's over. Eight hundred. So... Did you drop it, Lily? No. My God. Come on. What was that? Two fifty. Is that a five? You're in there? This is two fifty. I have five hundred. You're not in the fire club, Lily? You know what? It took you down. Two fifty. Two fifty and sixty. There's another sixty. There's another sixty. God, take it out. Only one person landed in a railroad. Five people landed. Four people. That's crazy. All right. He just landed. And he landed with a car. No one else landed. Three? Three? Oh. I'll take it down. I'll take it down. Try to pull it out, will you? I got to take it out. Oh, nice. I got to take it out. I got another person. I actually... Mine actually wasn't that. Oh, really? No, of course not. Not again. No, no. I still have these. Oh, really? That's so game. But I still have these. Let's see you do it, Lily. Good luck. Why is there a hotel here? You don't think so? Eight fifty. Sure. You can try. There's no shame in trying. Eight fifty. That's six seventy-five. The blue? Six seventy-five. Six seventy-five. Six seventy-five. Seven eighty-five. Nine fifty. Nine fifty. I just hit seven eighty-five. No, it's eight fifty. Eight fifty. I'll keep it. Have you snuck to a restaurant? No. No, no. Wait, he has to land on me. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Ooh, I got doubled the five hundred. Yeah, this might be all right. I didn't see his cash. He just landed on me. He has the railroads. If he doesn't land. Double five hundred twelve. If he doesn't land. He's got the railroads too. If he goes to jail here. I think you're screwed. Yeah, I'll just go one more round. Oh yeah, no. Go ahead. Four hundred tonne, luggage these. Just make it quick, Pa. I just put too much thought into these things. All right, help the bank. Make it quick. All right, where are you, Lily? Lily's trying to make a quick deal from the dice. All right, sixty bucks. Yeah, we'll have. You know what it was? It was all that Vahe landing. Oh yeah, I know. It was that three. Double landing, yeah. The three just did it. And the only reason we had that third house on board was because we landed on that land. To pay him, man. I'm trying to make it quick. To kill himself. To ruin everything.  In case you get a twelve. You put some in the middle? Yeah, I got the most. Four. It's going nice and slow. Snake, that is a terrible rule. Oh, that's an arrival, actually. Don't get to pay for the houses card. Oh my God. The thing that makes you want to quit. I'll let your company 75. I'll pay for it. I'll pay for it. Just to make it quicker. Nice. Okay, I'm paying my 75. Two hundred dollars. Yeah, man. Like how many times do you have to hit him on the light blue to come back here? I'm just telling you real. Like did he shit? He has like a fifteen hundred already. You need three hits. That's it? Yeah, the railroad. It's not possible. Oh, you've not done a railroad. This is the one, man. You've not done a railroad when you had it. That's a little bit. That's pretty good, mate. Yes. Oh, man. You go right away. Yeah? Five minutes. Five minutes? Okay, again. Thank you, children. Just dropping by to say hi. Now, soon as you lost it, whoop you are. Hey, whoop you. You're all doing fantastic, brother. Thank you very much. You're my first sister. Zuseimas. Zuseimas. You're doing well. You're doing well. Thank you. Sorry I haven't checked in chat. We just got hit with this. We're doing the game. I swear there's more. It gets a little intense. So we're going to take... Oh, thank you for the sub. Everything's deal though. I appreciate it. I hope you like it. We're going to keep on rolling. We're going to keep on going. But we're going to... What are you going to... What we've been doing is just stopping the games after each game is over. So we're going to take a five minute break and we'll be back here to play... What game was this? This is the sixth game today. We're going to be back here in about five, maximum ten minutes to play game number seven. Okay. And again, if you want to know the type of rules that we're playing with, here's the link to the video that shows you the start of the game, where we do the counting, the mathematics, and where we do the dealing and stuff and what can happen. And then in the description of that video, there's a link that takes you to the rules of the game that we're playing with. You can see the rules of the game from the way we're playing. Okay. So see you guys in about five or ten minutes.


Good morning Hickets Tuesday. Working with Partners in Health, our community is now on pace to raise over $35 million in the first five years of our project to help P I H radically reduce maternal mortality in Sierra Leone. This video comes in four parts. What happened, what's happening, why it's happening, and what's next. So three years ago, our community began working with Partners in Health to support their efforts to strengthen the health care system in Sierra Leone's Kono district, which is the epicenter of the global maternal mortality crisis. Like in 2019, one in 17 women in Sierra Leone could expect to die in pregnancy or childbirth. So to address this crisis, P I H and the Sierra Leonean Ministry of Health wanted to build a world-class maternal and infant care wing of Koi Du government hospital called the Maternal Center of Excellence. The MCOE would not only have a blood bank and surgical suites to make emergency C-sections safe, but would also serve as a teaching hospital to train the next generation of Sierra Leonean nurses, midwives, and doctors. So in 2019, we committed to help P I H raise $25 million over five years so they could break ground on this hospital expansion. We weren't sure how we were going to raise the money, but never underestimate Nerdfighteria. So where are we now? Well, despite supply chain challenges, the Maternal Center of Excellence has begun construction, although it is a long way from finished, but we don't need to wait for a building to start to see the change. Koi Du government hospital is already becoming a teaching hospital. The first cohort of nurses and midwives recently finished their rotations there, and this is really exciting because it means more people in the region can pursue those careers. Also, because we have blown past our initial goal, we've been able to expand this project to extend our support to several primary health care clinics in the region, including one in the town of Kaima. And Kaima was the scene of a really important story this year, I think, which is that there was a huge outbreak of a diarrheal illness in town, and that's one of the leading causes of death for kids under the age of five. And in response, the clinic treated people who got sick, but also recognized that there was an underlying cause to this outbreak, which is that neither the clinic nor the community had regular access to clean water. And so the PIH team drilled a well that now provides clean water not just to the clinic, but also to the town. I think this is part of what makes PIH so special. They respond to acute health crises, but also to the chronic underlying causes of those crises. And this approach is working in Kono. Child mortality at the hospital has fallen by over half just in the last two years. Unsexy but critical system stuff like efficient warehousing and climate controlled storage of medication has improved the availability of everything from medicines to surgical gloves. And maternal mortality is declining as well, even though it is still hundreds of times too high. I think it's really important to note that this is not happening because progress is like inevitable. If we've learned anything from the last two and a half years, it's that progress is never inevitable. This is happening because of the extraordinary commitment of Sierra Leone's healthcare workers and because of your support. Like thousands of people donate monthly to this project at pih.org slash hank and john, thousands more have made one-time gifts and around 100 nerdfighters have come together to donate between $2,000 and $100,000 a year to ensure that every one of those dollars gets matched. You can get a full financial breakdown of where we are at the unlisted video in the doobly-doo. Should I call it the video info if I'm wearing a suit? Probably so. The video info below. But the other really important source of revenue for this project is socks and coffee. Oh, which reminds me. Starting today, we have a light roast available from the Awesome Coffee Club and it's great, amazing coffee sent to your house and 100% of the profits go to charity. We named our roasts after butterflies that live in Sierra Leone, like our classic medium dark roast is called Octavia after Precious Octavia, a butterfly that changes color depending on when it's born. And our brand new light roast is called Calypso after this ethereal beauty Belinois Calypso.  AwesomeCoffeeClub.com. All that said, by far the most efficient way to donate to this project is pih.org slash Hank and John.  So what's next? Well, for me at least this is the biggest news. Pih has a long history of fighting for justice and equity in healthcare when the global health community said it was impossible to treat multi drug resistant tuberculosis in poor communities. Pih proved otherwise. They also helped lead the charge to expand access to antiretroviral therapy for people living with HIV. And our biggest hope when we started this project is that even though our work would be focused in just one region of just one country, we could use that example to prove that it is possible to radically reduce maternal and child mortality everywhere. And then maybe the progress in Kona would help inspire other partners to expand the work. And we're starting to see that. Pih is now working with Sierra Leone's Ministry of Health and the World Bank to strengthen the health care system in the Kailun district, which is just south of Kona. As Pih is, John Lasher recently wrote me, you and your community, which now feels very much like our shared community, have paved the way for more partners to join us and for us to expand our work. And there is so much left to do. And there is so much left to do like one of the big challenges here is that as a health care system gets stronger, more people begin to trust it and more people begin to use it. Like in 2019, the primary health care center in the town of Suwaffe saw 4,700 visits and in 2020, it saw 4,700 visits. So like from the outside, one might conclude that the clinic isn't very important to the community or that it doesn't serve a very large patient population. But because over 95% of Pih Sierra Leone's employees are Sierra Leonean and live in the communities where they work, they understood that something else was happening, which is that the clinic did not have the staff, space, stuff, and systems to provide good care. And in 2021, after Pih started supporting the facility, the clinic in Suwaffe saw over 20,000 patients, a 500% increase over the year before. And as the clinic continues to get stronger, it may see even more patients. So this is a really critical time for our work with partners in health because patient volume is increasing so dramatically and we are hoping that our support will increase too. Needing an emergency C-section in Kono continues to be a life-threatening emergency, but we know it can change. We know it can change because when we started this project three years ago, one in 17 women in Sierra Leone could expect to die in pregnancy or childbirth. Today, it's fewer than one in 20. That is still much too high, but that progress is real. We can choose to share a world where maternal and child deaths are rare. And thanks to your attention and support, I really believe that our community is helping to bring about such a world. Even if you can't personally donate, your attention and advocacy helps draw attention to the global maternal and child mortality crises, which brings in big funding partners. If you can donate, the link is pih.org slash Hank and John. Nerdfighteria, I continue to be astonished by you. Hank, I'll see you on Friday.


Yeah, it's time for top five in five minutes and we're gonna start off with the top five wedges at 2019 according to the average golfer Right, we've got five minutes So I'm gonna have to be very very brief But what I want to say before I start is that all the products that I'm gonna mention in this top five I will have tried myself personally and I will also take into consideration When we've done some group testing of team average and their thoughts and opinions too. Anyway, it is time Let's get the stopwatch started There we go. We're off and at number five First product into the mix. It's the pink glide three Very very briefly. What do I like about it? What don't I well, I like it performs extremely well in the wet conditions I think that's been said by on many many videos and it certainly did that when I test it, but Disappointing things. I think the way it looks is not my particular cup of tea I think it's a very much a Marmite product and for that reason it only makes it in at number five Number four. It is the tight list of Vokey SM7 new product on the way from them into 2020 we'll see how that gets on and One of the things they've done with the 2020 product is something that I'm gonna be critical about The 2019 product in that they've revamped it. They've revamped it in terms of its visuals And I think that was the problem for me The pros are you get what you see on your tin It is a very red or very very good all-round performer as you'd expect from a Vokey wedge Disappointed thing was it looked exactly the same as all the rest of them And they didn't do much in terms of aesthetics for me in terms of moving the bar forward might matter to many But if I'm changing my product, I like to see a little bit difference as well And they've certainly changed the game into 2020 right next up number three. It's a product from Callaway. It's the Jaws Really interesting one when I reviewed this out on the course It started off as a bit of a slow burner and when I started to use it in and around the number of different positions It performed really really well. It the control element was fantastic Again did exactly what you'd want from every wedge a lot of control and a disappointing bit Well, the fact was you'd have blue dots on it and it's as simple as that That was the only negative I could find and what Liverpool supporter wants blue dots on his wedges Well, there's not many I can tell you that anyway fickle Next up is the tailor-made Mill grind two wedges now these things for me. Let's see how long we've gotten this clock by the way Three minutes still to go. We've got plenty of time. Unfortunately. Why is that disappearance? I can't see it. Let's see that stopwatch up on display right there two minutes 55. I'm get going No grind to first of all look superb Available in a number of finishes. I think there was the chrome was the black and there was the rust or raw finish Again, was it just it actually no I take it. I tell like it was the black and the chrome But it was a raw finish in terms of the face And I thought they look superb first and foremost a great new redesign in terms of what tailor-made to put together But it performed exceptionally well almost in some instances too well in terms of grip and spin You had to get I played a lot off-camera with it So you had to get used to familiarize yourself with in terms of the control But you'd really throw a ball in there and expect it to check up and do a job Disappointing element for me. I think very few to be perfectly honest with yet I suppose it again high on the price end But that's why it's in at number two, but number one the number one wedge for me from 2019 And I don't even know that it lapsed into their 2020 product So there might be some confusion here, but the Cleveland CBX version 2 fantastic product Difficult to pick fault with and I picked this for a reason. I picked it with the average golfer in mind There's a lot of videos in recent weeks I sort of you know the angle I come this all from from the perspective of an average golfer and how many golfers would benefit from dropping off Blade-style wedge. Let's call them all the other clubs have really just thrown into the mix in the previous four How many was better drop in that kind and almost going to a game improvement? I suppose you'd call it a game improvement wedge rather which would be very very similar to the sets of irons that we play And I think for me, that's what it does It's more of a game improvement and it's packed with forgiveness. You can play it from every single kind of lie And it does a job even coming out of bunkers. I think it was a massive assistance for you And again, it's in at the right price point. So for me, it gets the number one. How long have I got left? I don't like the fact I've got 58 seconds still to go in our five-minute slot I've got to find out why this keeps disappearing and stop it going to sleep mode so I can see this thing But with that time to spare what I will say is this it is very Subjective in terms of the top five. I've got to give a little bit of reasoning and it's a very personal reason But what I would like to understand is It's all about getting custom fit for you personally and the biggest question I've got to ask is what is your number one wedge of 2015? That is the most important bit So stick your answer down in the comments box below and that's me done and for the last time 23 seconds to go. We did it quite easy. That's me signing off best wedges 2019 according to the average golfer. See you soon


Live from Austin, Texas, it's theCUBE. Covering OpenStack Summit 2016, brought to you by the OpenStack Foundation and headline sponsors Red Hat and Cisco. Now here are your hosts, Stu Miniman and Brian Gracely. Welcome back to SiliconANGLE Media's production of theCUBE here at OpenStack Summit 2016 in Austin. Happy to have back on the program two return guests. We've got Redesh Balakrishnan with Red Hat with us early in the week and first time this week but been on the program a few times before. Lou Tucker, who's the vice president and CTO of cloud computing Cisco. Gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us. Great to be here. All right, so Redesh, we talked to you a little bit earlier about kind of looking back and we're OpenStack.com. So Lou, we need to get your thoughts. You've been involved, you know, since the earliest days, you know, here we are from 75 people around the corner to 7,500.  Yeah, well, it's not a surprise. I think that, you know, five, six years ago, we really saw, I think an entire industry moving around the development of this kind of an open platform for anybody to build cloud. So we were hopeful, but it has been a journey but it's also been a very rewarding one because I think we've seen developers from around the world. We truly have global conferences now. So as cloud computing is spreading around the world that we're seeing that OpenStack is the platform of choice for that. So it's been great to see that kind of adoption. And Lou, I mean, you've been a big proponent of some of the open source initiatives inside Cisco but open and networking is a big talking point, you know. It gives full insight of the kind of conversations inside of Cisco and how that's proliferating in the industry. I think, again, over that same time period, even Cisco has seen all of our customers asking for open platforms. They want the industry to work together on these things. Before it was always driving standards. And so you could have standards and industry leaders could agree upon the standards, but then there wasn't, then there were different software implementations. Now we're really looking for a common software implementation that can build upon that. And that's affected Cisco, almost every part of Cisco's business. We're seeing that move towards open systems and the cloud. All right, so Radesh, I mean, Red Hat really understands how the open source things work. I used to work on some standards, and I used to work with Cisco on some standards, and there was a joke sometimes, it's like, well, Cisco would make something work and eventually that would become the standard. So what's it like partnering with Cisco and their participation? How have they been coming along in the open source space? Yeah, so Lou was saying about the journey. So our partnership has also seen an amazing journey specific to OpenStack in the last two to three years, right? It's not that we were strangers before, of course, our partnership dates way back to the Linux days as well, but at the same time from an OpenStack perspective, it's rewarding to see that across the multiple businesses within Cisco, be it public cloud from an inter-cloud perspective, or UCS, or NFV, or even the recently acquired Metapod side, we have an amazing partnership across engineering as well as go to market to make sure that we are jointly pushing the boundaries of what OpenStack can do, as well as more customers can benefit from the solution. So it's been an amazing journey with Cisco. Yeah, so Lou, we've had a good chance to talk with Red Hat about the solution they're building, how they're, you know, the OpenStack solution is, it's been about two years since the inter-cloud solution was launched. Give us the update, what is it, how does it fit in the environment and what is the connection with Red Hat? In many ways we're seeing a, many of Cisco's new businesses that we're entering or either through acquisition, more and more we're seeing management moving to the cloud and so Cisco's inter-cloud will be the place where we will start to see more and more management of infrastructure, whether it be an on-premise and an enterprise or even a service provider, this kind of service delivery model from the cloud is very compelling, it gives the best of both worlds because that way, oftentimes companies don't have the expertise to manage their infrastructure, we can provide that service so more and more we're seeing Cisco's own SaaS businesses moving to inter-cloud and being able to be delivered from that. Yeah, I remember when you joined Cisco from Oracle back in about 2009, 2010, and at the time there was a lot of people who would go, you know, that Lou guy, he said some stuff and I have no idea what it means, you know, he's talking about software and it's open and all these sort of things and I have to wonder, as you go jointly talk to customers right, we're now talking about, you know, blurred lines of who runs network and who runs compute and like, talk about just kind of language-wise what it's like talking to customers now is you're talking about software, you're talking about open, you're talking about, you know, managed cloud, like how has that evolved the last couple of years, especially, you know, working jointly together? Well, I think I can start, and then we, I think a year ago it was a big, you know, awakening I think that we saw in the service providers space particularly, that they have large data centers and that this whole shift with SDN or towards virtualizing network functions, it's becomes a cloud software issue and so that's why they're looking and we're working very closely with Red Hat on this, they're looking for really where's the platform for OpenStack and then where can we get the virtualized network services that run on top of that? So we're collaborating and we see, even in the user survey of OpenStack users or whatever, that the number one thing that they're interested in right now is containers, number two is NFV, that's amazing. I never, I would not have predicted that. Yeah, five years ago, no way. That fast a change towards networking and the virtualization and networking. Right, and how much do you, I mean, you guys work very closely on package solutions, making it easy to, whether you want it completely built for you or you know, it's best practices, how much demand do you see that from customers who just go look, I want to get to running things, I don't care so much about the underlying bits, I want them to be open, but how much, how important is that for your customers? Yeah, that is pervasive, right? So the reason we are aligned with an engineering perspective and contributing upstream together and looking at and reacting to demand signals be it NFV and tomorrow there's a new workload is because customers by default have come to demand that the operational excellence that Cisco brings to bear as well as the enterprise life cycle that Red Hat brings to bear should be default, right, for the newer solution area. So that's the kind of the natural synergy that we are working to make sure that we are meeting the customer where they are. Yeah, yeah. So you were essentially one of the original open-stack cheerleaders, you were chair of the foundation when it was just getting started, kind of somewhat neutral. Somebody made a comment to us yesterday, this show is, it's obviously it's huge, but a lot more suit, maybe not as many suits as t-shirts, but kind of an interesting mix. Do you guys feel like having been in this space for a long time, people questioned, how do you make money? Are we sort of at a tipping point where this becomes less about just technology and more about making these businesses happen, we saw so many customers this week. Do you feel like we're hitting that point? Yeah, I absolutely do. I think we've seen a steady progression towards building out of a larger ecosystem. And when we talk about an ecosystem in technology, that is a set of companies that are being built around the platform. And that's exactly what we're seeing. Yesterday's platform, I mean, was Linux, it sort of started with Linux. And now we're seeing open-stack being the platform that is kind of an open integration place. Some of us on the foundation are talking about open-stack's mission going forward is also to connect to a lot of other open communities so that we become this kind of open integration platform. So whether you're doing containers or virtual machines, we have a lot of these services that allow it easily to integrate, which creates an opportunities for all of the companies that you see here today. And so I'm very pleased to see actually the growth of this into something that can be economically sustainable. And that's what I think an ecosystem is for. And that's what our customers are looking for. And from our perspective, if you listen to our analysts call, whiter's would be calling out names or if not names. The fact that some of the top deals that we do across the globe include open-stack, right? The percentage is increasing every quarter. So we are well beyond the point of, are we going to monetize? The question is, can we keep up the acceleration in monetization that we are seeing, right? So, and that's where I think the partnership that Cisco also comes in the picture. The reality is that the breadth of Salesforce that Cisco has and the level of trust relationship that Cisco has established across multiple verticals, particularly in the service provider segment, is a great opportunity for us to make sure that open-stack adoption is driven hard there. And I think that, if I might add, the working together in the community upstream is what makes it all possible because it's the way our developers want to work and that they have a natural synergy with other people who are galvanized activity around a particular project. And that means that we can simultaneously do the two things which are most difficult. One is improve the stability, performance of the platform reliability while we continue to expand into new areas. There's always that tension. And the only way you can do it, and I've managed engineering teams for a long time, is to really have multiple teams that are one sum that are really looking towards that kind of resiliency of the platform while others are looking for, okay, what are the new things that we can do? Getting that timing right is really critical. That's the hardest thing to do in tech, I think, is timing, timing the market transitions, timing the introduction of new technologies. Yeah, I think I'd add to that. And we kind of see what we internally refer to as a fast-train customer and a slow-train customer. Customers with slightly different needs in terms of what they expect from that. But as leaders, we need to be able to address the needs of both the camps, right? So that's the ongoing challenge that we are on. Right, yeah, right. Can you talk a little bit about the metapod solution that came from the MetaCloud acquisition? How's that look going forward from a partnership standpoint? That's really going well, and it's actually not that of a surprise because in fact, deploying and operating OpenStack is not a skill that every enterprise has. So particularly in the enterprise spaces where they would like to get the benefits of cloud computing, of public cloud computing, but they have a requirement to run it on-premise. And that means that they want to deliver it as a service on-premise. So we think of it as delivering OpenStack as a service on-premise for the customers. So they get to have the benefits of running on top of a cloud without having to worry about the infrastructure. They consume it like a service. So it's a very interesting model. I think that we'll see, I mean, not only Cisco, there are other players also looking to see, you know, for those kinds of opportunities. Yeah, I'm curious just, and please feel free to discuss it too, but also, I mean, you know, you take your typical Linux admin or network admin, and you know, there's definitely a shift coming in place. So maybe we could talk a little bit of dynamics, you know, who helps make the purchasing decision and what happens from some of the internal pieces of that. Yeah, there's always going to be a set of customers who would graduate from having to manage servers to having to manage cloud, right? In fact, we are excited about the fact that just last calendar year, 10,000 IT professionals across the globe went through training of our OpenStack platform offering. But at the same time, to lose point, there is an emerging set of customers who would like to get the benefits of OpenStack from an agile infrastructure, as well as from the freedom from vendor lock-in that OpenStack promises, but amidst the priorities that they have, they don't have the very vital to invest resources. So that's where I think Metapod becomes an amazingly compelling value proposition. Yeah, interesting, you know, I'd say there are sometimes criticism out in the community, Cisco and even Red Hat, that there is some, you know, a little bit of lock-in despite the fact that there's open source. So I'm curious, how do you address that and what are the real conversations you have with users on it? It's a great question, because I think there's always such a thing as natural lock-in, and that is what you have familiarity with, that's what you've been used to. You get comfortable with that. You don't want to swap systems in and out so fast that you really can't get the experience with it. So that I don't view as a negative, I view that as a natural way that we operate businesses today. What we're trying to avoid is unnecessarily locking in a customer, giving them no other choice. So by the fact that we have an open platform with OpenStack, it forces all of us as vendors to compete for the customer's business, and the customer gets to standardize on OpenStack and insulate themselves and really create, I think, the proper pressure back into the environment for this. Yeah, too, from our perspective, you can look at it as technology lock-in versus value lock-in. Technology lock-in is something we definitely will do everything to make sure it doesn't happen. That's by doing one simple thing, which is doing everything upstream first. The value lock-in to lose point can happen anytime, because of the fact that you're used to engaging with a particular provider, the value that the vendor is providing on a consistent basis, et cetera. Now, given our subscription business model, we're on an annual pace where every year we got to go eyeball to eyeball with the customer and earn the trust all over again. So we, I think, have solved the problem from our perspective, saying that, hey, look, even if you acquire a company which is a proprietary code base, we'll do the due diligence and ultimately make sure that it's upstreamed and made available. So the technology lock-in problem, take it off the table. The value lock-in is something that we want to earn every single day, coming to work and making sure that the customer journey is supported. Yeah, but both of you have big events coming up later on Cisco Live and Red Hat Summit. Without giving away the punchline, give us something that people can be excited about beyond OpenStack Summit that you guys expect to have driving the summer and something to look forward to for those types of things. I can go first, Red Hat Summit. Clearly, the graduation from infrastructure to more of the application-centric journey with containers as a core focus will be a key thing. We're excited about the fact that we do have a full-fledged offering that's based on community, adopted Docker, Kubernetes as standard. So how do we enable customers on this digital disruption is going to be the key theme there. So we're looking forward to not just the customers the next step in the journey, but our own organizational next step in the journey of maturing from being an infrastructure provided to becoming a trusted advisor in the new scheme of things. Yeah, I think the work we're seeing at each one of these events is that continued sort of digitization that is happening. We're far from complete. And so that creates always great new use cases, customer examples and everything else as company after company is getting further along in that process. We're also now intersecting, I think, the world of IoT so that a lot more of the growth and devices and everything else is creating other pressures that, again, pushes then much more towards cloud-native computing. The applications, and we've talked, I think, before and in previous shows about that the application landscape is going to really start to shift next, I think, where we're seeing applications that are built right from the start for the cloud. That gives them very different characteristics. That gives them a resiliency beyond what we've seen before, and it gives them a scale. And so I think as more and more you'll see coming out, I think, more and more cloud-native applications coming out and that you'll see our companies participating in that. That's great. I want to give each of you the last word on kind of takeaways from the week, maybe something good you've heard from a customer or things that we should think about going forward. British? Excited about the progress we've made together in this community. Even more excited about the partnership that Cisco and Redat have struck and grown along the last few years, that we have meaningful offerings across, like I was saying, ranging from public cloud all the way to NFV and telco opportunities. I think we touched upon the fact that pervasive adoption is the next step in the journey from an open-stack perspective. So looking forward to meeting again and comparing notes on that. I think I'm just most pleased by the sort of universal acceptance that open-source and open-source communities are the wave of the future. And that we are now seeing the adoption, we're seeing this is now accepted, and that we're seeing then conferences such as this, which is actually a mixture of a design conference where developers are getting together with actually a big marketplace here where people are making deals. And that kind of growth I think is a real tribute to give the power of what we have in open-source today. Rajdeshan Loo, thank you so much. Always a pleasure to catch up with you. Be sure to check out siliconangle.tv for all the upcoming events where theCUBE is coming around, especially the spring tour. We'll be right back, getting towards the end of three days of coverage from the open-stack summit 2016 in Austin. You're watching theCUBE. It's always fun to come back to theCUBE because the discussion is always interesting and relevant. It's not scripted, which I think makes it real. But I think it's really good service for...


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