Welcome to News Desk on SiliconANGLE TV. For Friday, October 12th, 2012, I'm Kristen Velletti. An injection that forbade the sales of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus in the United States has been overturned by the US Court of Appeals. Also, Samsung has lost one of its top chip designers to Apple iOS 6. To Apple and Apple iOS 6 is tracking you. Join us now to discuss these headlines as SiliconANGLE contributing editor, John Casaretto. Welcome, John. Good morning. In late June, following a lawsuit filed by Apple earlier this year, a California court granted an injunction against Samsung that banned the sale of the Galaxy Nexus in the US, which was overturned yesterday. We're well aware that these two companies have been undergoing major legal battles over patents for several months. How big of a victory is this for Samsung? It's a big victory. Samsung got that injunction back in over the summer and this is a big ruling. And it's significant in that they're now going to be able to return to selling the Galaxy Nexus. What was the court's reasoning for removing the junction? Well, basically, they were able to focus in on the functionality of the product as a whole. So they were able to say there is no one feature that makes a person buy a certain phone, a certain device. Was there a specific hardware or software feature on the Galaxy Nexus that the lawsuit was focused on? Yeah, in this case, it was a search. So the gist of what was essentially said was that the search function on its own was not enough to really justify to say that people are buying these phones because of search functionality. And therefore, that was the reasoning for overturning this. So how soon can Samsung return to selling the Galaxy Nexus? Well, it would appear as though that would be right away. We'll probably hear something from Samsung sometime today or the next few days, but it would probably be instant. Do you think Apple will continue to pursue this particular lawsuit or attempt to take any further action regarding it? I believe so. I believe that they will continue to pursue this. They either make it hard. So I think that they have more in store and this will continue back and forth between Samsung and Apple as they have this fight in the courts around the world. In other Samsung news, Samsung recently went on a hiring spree of chip designers and now one of the most prominent of those recruits has left the company for Apple. Prior to working at Samsung, Jim Mergaard was previously vice president and chief engineer, along with being a 16 year veteran at AMD. So why is Mergaard now moving on to Apple and do you think others will follow? You know, it's a good question. He's obviously a veteran and somebody that has a lot of credentials. Apple and Samsung, you know, it's a little bit of if you can't beat them, join them. In this case, it's, you know, can't necessarily beat them, but maybe you can join us. So I think other people will start to look at Apple as a potential employer, perhaps people from Mergaard's team. It all has to do with the fact that, you know, there's an alignment with ARM technology and the chip development in that space, which is obviously integrated into Apple's products, their iPads or iPhones, et cetera. What kinds of qualifications and experience does Mergaard have that can help Apple? Well, his particular experience is what's known in a type of chip known as a SOX, which is a systems on a chip. So basically what they're able to do is create a very low power type of chip, which is efficient on batteries, which is basically he's got a lot of components packed into it. So special kinds of like circuitry all packed into a single, one single piece of silicon chip. So that's his specialty. It's a very advanced type of technology and what makes these devices so powerful. Where do you see Apple applying Mergaard's talents? Well, they're definitely continuing to look for the brightest people out there. I think that they're going to look to advance their max. They're going to continue to miniaturize, continue to advance their, you know, the phone sets and advance the tabs and things like that. Samsung was rumored to be looking at moving into the server space being that the ARM technologies are pretty prevalent there and there's a big movement towards moving to that type of architecture. But, you know, perhaps that might be another reason or another touch point as to why he's no longer part of Samsung and wants to focus more on a consumer focused device. It remains to be seen. Veteran technical talent is always in high demand and it's common for high level engineers to move between big name companies. We know that. But there's a love hate relationship sort of between Samsung and Apple. Can you explain how closely the two companies are intertwined? Well, there's obviously, you know, the big headline court cases going on and that's one element of being intertwined between the two companies and that will continue. But Apple itself uses quite a bit of Samsung's technology on its bleeding edge devices. So, you know, they're dependent, they're partners and at the same time adversaries. Chip design seems to be pretty important to both companies right now. Who do you think is ahead in chip design? Samsung or Apple or are they pretty evenly matched? Well, I would say, you know, that's a difficult question because famously Apple has very tight controls on its requirements and designs. So, you know, while Samsung is the deliverer of those advanced systems and chips and architecture that make those things possible, Apple has got the blueprints and pretty much the list of demands that they require to make their systems work the way that they do. So I think as far as being ahead, Samsung has clearly established, has been doing this and is currently delivering on that. So I would say Samsung at this point has got the leg up in those regards. Along with Apple rolling out its new iOS 6 software in September, an enhancement came with the new mobile operating system that many users are unaware of. The company has started tracking users through a new technology called IFA or IDFA, which is used so that advertisers can target them. Can you explain to us how the technology works? Yeah, basically it's a number that's assigned to the different iOS devices and it's a random supposedly anonymous number that is attached to a user and their device. So previously they had a different scheme called a UDID which was permanent, it was also non-deletable, it was more like a serial number. So, and it's basically a tracking token, essentially, that identifies behavior that's going on. And previously, as far as the UDID was concerned, there was a big scandal around the fact that a lot of this information was being collected and a lot of people didn't know about it. So how does this information benefit advertisers? Well, what it does is it gives advertisers the ability to track users from the initial presentation of an advertisement all the way into the point at which they actually buy in. The most typical example would be the buying of an application. So, basically they can now start to build some statistics around, we showed so many advertisements or we showed this group of users this advertisement and we had this many conversions. You talked about Apple's UDIDs and that they had used them previously. It was understood that they had been disabled. So why roll out a new type of tracking device now? Well, they were technically not so much disabled as they were basically, Apple was basically not approving any applications that track the UDID. UDIDs were still on element of the phones themselves. So with this new scheme or this new technology IDFA, what it does is it basically allows, it gives those benefits that those advertisers but it gives kind of a demographic, if you will, that advertisers can use. So it's kind of part of their overall plan to create the ecosystem that they want. They basically require it. Does the user have a choice here? Can they switch it off if they want to? Yeah, they can. And reportedly it's a little bit tricky to disable. This was definitely a change from the UDID scheme. So it's something new that they're able to do and you can choose to do it and look that up online. A lot of people that are concerned with privacy may want to take a look at that, turn those kind of things off. And let me just be clear that there's no personal individual information that is disclosed with this IDFA thing. So basically what it does is it provides just general numbers about an audience altogether, so. Apple doesn't even mention IFA on its iOS 6 launch page. Why do you think they're keeping this such a secret from users? Well, obviously there was the bad press and privacy concerns. They don't want people to be alerted about that. And it may be a genuine move towards respecting privacy quite a bit more, having a stronger policy in place and the fact that you can opt out. Whereas you couldn't before it was all in the hands of the advertisers and the application developers and things like that, so. Well, John, thanks so much for your time. We appreciate you joining us. Absolutely. For all the latest in-depth coverage and breaking analysis on tech innovation, keep up to date with Newsdesk on SiliconANGLE TV.


Hello and welcome to Celebrating Excellence. South Alois, one of St. Lucia's Nobel laureates, stated that the fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge. He understood that development is about structural transformation by creating new economic opportunities. Here's Dr. Adrian Ogier, economist, producer and 2010 Caribbean laureates for arts and letters on the concept of knowledge as an engine of economic growth. Well probably in this conversation and at this moment the most important thing about Sir Arthur Lewis was that he was one of us. He was a St. Lucian, first he was a Caribbean person, second and he was a great economist. Great economist in the sense that he was a thinking man grounded in the reality of where St. Lucia was, where the Caribbean was, where other developing countries were in terms of their trajectory and that's an important word because we are on a path, we're not starting off as fully formed economies or fully formed societies or even in those days as fully formed nations. So Sir Arthur I think was very conscious of the fact that we were on a path towards something better, bigger, more sustainable. The important thing about him also was that he was a groundbreaking theorist who was able to gain international respect, international acclaim for a, focusing on the plight of developing countries with obviously the Caribbean as his primary lab or workshop and also on the broader subject of development where not much work had been done at the time to really understand what is the trajectory, what's the cycle, what is the path of developing economies, how do they move from basic agricultural, peasant, excess labor situations into something that more resemble the wealth and affluence and sustainability is the word we use now of larger, more advanced economies. And so he started this ground work by establishing some basic premises of what do you have in small economies like those in the Caribbean coming out of the plantation era, coming out of colonialism, coming out of even post emancipation. You had a lot of ordinary everyday people who had no education, no facilities, no access to finance, very few resources and he quantified that very simply into land, labor and capital which meant you had people who we still speak about as our chief resource but without land which is part of the wealth of your people and your country and without capital which is both finance and equipment and access to those things, technology also and I would say in our modern era also intellectual capital that without those other commodities he recognized that the labor was largely going to be poor for a long time and so this is the I think the eye opener that Sir Arthur offered us back then as developing societies and also which we ought to be mindful of even today that unless you develop the synergy between your land, your labor and your capital you really not going to fulfill the development potential of these islands and unfortunately we remain in a significant imbalance of land, labor and capital which is what Sir Arthur really wanted us to achieve as economies. That understanding of what needs to be done or what needed to be done in the Sir Arthur Lewis model is probably best articulated in his approach to investment by invitation which was the reason why you started getting your national development corporations, your industrial development corporations and those other generic models which were supposed to drive investment into these societies, into these economies. It was based on the Sir Arthur Lewis recognition that you needed to bring foreign capital into the economy so that your people could have access to it, could have ownership of it and eventually could be masters of it so that their wealth and their income would continue to rise and expand out of the subsistence agriculture into more middle income and eventually up into higher income. Unfortunately we have lost track of that synergy between the land, the labor, the capital. We have lost track of the need to add the investment capital to the domestic labor and hold on to the land and so some of the models that we are pursuing have not produced the kind of income and wealth for our own people that Sir Arthur Lewis model would have suggested which is to say that we spend quite a lot of time and money and energy encouraging and subsidizing what is not so much investment but really extractive capital industry and it means that our own people remain in the position of supplying largely unskilled, largely underpaid labor to an economic formula which is not really driving their wealth and their incomes upward over the life cycle. So you are actually in a stage now of our development where the incidence of poverty is rising, our public goods like health, education, security, environment etc, basic infrastructure is not really thriving and the overall economic growth profile which is the rate at which the economy is growing is not keeping up with development country average. So the time really has come and has passed and hopefully will come again for us to really re-examine the development model that we are rather unconsciously pursuing and which really is not generating the kind of results that we should be seeing. It's very easy to substantiate that with evidence, if you look at the growth rates over the last three decades they have not been impressive, they have not kept track with developing country averages and although we are spending upwards of 1.6-1.7 billion annually on the government budget, we are not seeing the results in the rank and file everyday lives of solutions. We continue to see dominant industries grow without commensurate improvement in employment for example or in wages and we are not generally seeing the skills level within the economy increasing as Sir Arthur Lewis had contemplated that you would have untrained labor, you would add capital to it and that untrained labor would become progressively more efficient, more productive, higher earning and therefore you would have an accumulation of wealth in the domestic population. We are not seeing that and it is time I think for us to really pull the intellectual capacity of the region together and ask ourselves whether the development model conscious or unconscious, actual, virtual or assumed is actually producing a designated deliverable. What is our current economic trajectory? How does it keep us out of poverty, ignorance and disease? How does it promote savings? How does it increase average household earnings and the stability that translates into the kind of social advancement that Sir Arthur would have wanted these societies to have achieved by now? That conversation needs to happen at the highest possible levels and also to at a level that really involves rank and file citizens in the realization of their dreams for themselves and for their families, for their children and for their communities. The 2023 Nova Lawrence Festival theme is celebrating excellence, nurturing our creativity, consolidating our legacy. It's the 30th year of celebrating St. Lucia's Nova Lawrence. If you've never attended an event, don't you think it's time that you should? And if you're watching after the festival, visit the Facebook page at Nova Lawrence Festival St. Lucia to follow upcoming events. I'm Delia Delore. Goodbye.


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What's up Dylan Tubi? Progressive Soccer. You may have seen the post I released yesterday. In that post I said I'm doing a one hour online live interactive training session. So if you've ever wanted to train with me but you live in a different country, this is a really cool opportunity. Tomorrow April 21st you can train with me from the comfort of your own home. This is the first time I'm doing this. There's already players signed up from different countries all around the world and if you want to join us all you need is a computer with internet access, a soccer bowl and a small space. You could train in a space just like this. So maybe you want to train in your backyard if you have a small piece of grass would be ideal but if you're training indoors you could train in your basement, you could train in the living room, you could train in the garage anywhere where you still have access to the internet. You got that soccer bowl and most importantly you have the desire to improve. We're going to improve our fitness, our skills, our confidence on the ball. I'm going to give you coaching tips. It's going to be live, it's going to be interactive, it's going to be really fun and I'm pretty excited for it. So I know there's different players from different countries, different time zones. For that reason I'm offering two sessions tomorrow. There's a morning session and a night session. So all you have to do is click the link below this video it'll give you more information but when you register you'll be able to choose if you want to train with me in the morning or the night. So if you have any questions you can obviously send me a message but click that link below it'll give you all the information you need and I hope to see you tomorrow.


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To see the best of me man. Nah. I got some gang for you young nigga. What? If you look like you need it, you'll never get it. Mmm. Well I need it cause I damn sure look like I need it. Nah you better stop looking like it then. I ain't have no clothes. What? We be fucked. Looks like you don't need it. You gotta look like you don't need it. You gotta take it to your back. That's what you're saying. Mmm.  See I'm coming through this motherfucker. See I'm coming through this motherfucker. Tryin' to look saucy. That's why they ain't gonna give me nothing. I gotta come. Okay. So they can't see through that though. That's what you're saying? That's what you're saying? They can't see through the faking? Oh. I don't know. What was that here for?   It's just like this right here. It's just like you can fake, you can fake and be happy right?  Yeah.  The trick to getting anything from anybody is that you don't have to play. You don't have to feel into their needs to want to help. I try.  I don't want you to be great. We're just gonna give you some.  It's gotta be a bigger goal. I'm in the goal.  Because you literally yourself can't make her believe that you and her and the rest of these motherfuckers one day y'all gonna take over the world. Yeah.  You know that. I need some money forever. We ain't there yet. Yeah. We're close. We ain't there. We need a little bit more. We're gonna take over the world. We're going to Vegas. We're gonna take one day off and we gotta come right back. We gotta get back to the whole gang. It's sad for real. That is gang. Nobody need niggas like us and they like to let them know. It's bigger. Yeah. Cause she was just saying people don't want to move out of that like move out of the ghetto. Oh yeah for sure. They see people that literally don't want to. You think it's like that. I feel like everybody want to go somewhere like that. No they don't. Initially people want to go somewhere like that. No they don't. Cause they're scared. Oh. This is all I know. Why would I go somewhere else? I don't want to be around people that ain't been around. Nah this is how I know this. This is where I'm from. They feel like they gotta start over.  I feel like generally everybody is scared to get out that comfort zone in general. Whether it's the hood, whether it's whatever you're doing. People are generally scared to get out that comfort zone. Not me. What?  That's how you can't fail. Now do you bro? I'm saying like when you was younger though like there's been fears that you had because it was out your comfort zone. Even if it was subconscious.  I'm crazy. You wanted to skydive. I never skydive.  I don't even know nigga. I don't even know nigga. skydive. What nigga skydive?  The Bouguartam cigars up the cartoon that exploded, got that? You tripping though. I ain't yeah I would never skydive. When I got older it realized I would trip. I don't think you're tripping though. I don't mind that. You know what I mean? I wouldn't because I don't like like being I'm not I'm not gonna say that I'm from New York. So I got a word of rights. I don't like being high and then going down Crazy Okay I would know before you go every rollercoaster. They have the stats. So you're all right before the line Yeah The tallest drop in 306 feet I'm not getting on it This ain't all this time.     No, it's a little loose They got all women on my team niggas walking near suited up.  That's my lawyer is a white man I Jewish man No, if I'm down south, I need a white boy.  No, they don't want to nigga. Nothing in court. Let me defeat you in there Man, I went to court with a nigga lawyer once asked the judge.   You just gotta pay you.  They're like, no Oh That day when they said the motherfuckers to jail and they don't know they're going they were like, yeah, just wait right here.  Okay, where you sitting at nigga in no way watch that other people go see they Probe y'all that's probably entertaining. No, I didn't want that young nigga But it was like brother. I got I could be a school.  Man stuck in the pool.   So what it was a crazy car that you ever got That if you drop a baby off at the fire department, they gotta keep I heard that's a mist no it depends on the state You gotta wait for day out before you report somebody missing it's a lie They don't want them This building right now and you gonna miss it for ten minutes I feel like you missing I could call 911 and say yo Carlos is missing and they Put that in and they gonna be like I have to put that in Do that what how am I to say oh they gotta be missing 48 hours What no you can report the missing in five minutes What's the what's the 911 boys? What do you call a person who speaks three languages? 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Okay, I got an officer coming they can do not say that I've never had that. I went there for like two years. I'm pretty sure I've been at work there long and have had more calls with me I will say I've had to talk people out of suicide Okay You ain't really suicidal and sometimes they somebody to talk to you stay on the phone with yeah You still the phone with them until the ambulance get there. You can hear the ambulance knock and then you get off the phone I had I remember when I first I started working through the pandemic and Y'all remember niggas was looting right there. It was wild and somebody called me and he was like I need the police. I need the police. I was like, where are you? He was like, I don't know I'm on 265th in Main Street.    So I can walk you through that.  Nigga FaceTime don't say nothing. They didn't show me what's going on. So I can walk you through that motherfucker He don't need gel help. He need you to go to jail. Yeah, we just did this back then. You ain't going through the jail, right? You ain't going through the jail, right? Don't let them go. Don't let them go. Don't let them go. Don't let them go. What do you do? I'm gonna be asking for a response.  This is crazy. What's your stuff at? What's your bad job? Uh, Louis High Louis High? Yeah. That nigga's hot. He said he probably go to like the ninth grade. He wanted to go to school to go to the ninth.  He's gonna turn to this nigga. He's like, that nigga's going to ninth in the hand. But now he was like, yeah, they just shot my brother in the head. And I don't know if he's alive and now they're after me. And then I literally froze. Because it's like, I have the police on the way, but it's a looting going on. But how quick did you like have to like?  A lot of time they hung up. A lot of time they tell you what's going on and they hang up. And you kind of don't really know what happens after that. Unless you check. Damn. Like, you check. Have you ever thought about somebody like, damn, I wanted this person to die? It was a little girl. It was a little girl in the Bronx.  Like, they are the worst. The worst. By far. And it was a drive by and the lady called screaming, like excruciating. I'm like, oh my God. Oh my God. But they're not saying nothing.  Like you can't do that. So at this point, you want to get what's important. Where are you? What's the emergency? Because when you tell me where you are, I know where to send them. Where you are is the number one, though. Where you are is number one. Because if I know what's the emergency, but I don't know where you at, it don't help me. So I rather you, if you call number one and you can't stand the phone, just tell me where you at and hang up. That's going to help me more than telling me what the situation is. If you had a choice, right?  Maybe they'll figure it out. But so she called, she was like, they just shot my baby. They just shot my baby. I'm like, oh. Where are you? She do what she was at. You immediately send the police. You immediately send the ambulance and you connect them to the ambulance. And she's like, literally like, just uncontrollable. And I'm like, her was on the way. She hung up calls like that. You kind of want to stay on it and look at it and what's going on. And again, I worked overnight. So a lot of times when I was leaving work seven in the morning, I would see the stories on the news and the baby lived. The girl lived. Yeah. She was like three.  Like that was a call.  That ain't enough. It really isn't.  It really isn't. Shit. I hit the blood. Yeah. Shit. I wondered if that lady gave birth to that baby she called me back. Yep. Yep. You stay on the line for them to have the baby.  And they be like, well, it's kind of weird. But you got to say, well, how do you know that? And they'll be like, listen, he's blue in the face. You connect them to EMS. They don't know if they want to do CPR. You stay on the phone when they do a CPR. But yeah. But when you work for it, it's like you become numb to it. Like a lot of times, you don't have to take a break. I done got so many calls and people got shot. I don't tell them for it. I need my breaks in Consiglio. I want tomorrow break and the day after tomorrow break together. You want to put them all together. No, you could take. 25 minutes. I need 25 minutes right now. No, you could take breaks after certain calls. But it's really not often that you get calls like that. It's somebody, when you go and break somebody else on the call, right? Oh, well. What about somebody? It's a call center. It's a call center. So we have a lot of dispatches. So it's not like you leaving changes anything. But that's crazy. You don't feel that it's my conversation. Yes, it is. I'm happy to help you. Where you at? Where you at? I don't know. Can I be in the room by myself? It made an answer? Yes. It happens. And I didn't know that until I started working. You said what? You could call 911 and put you on hold. Oh. I don't know that. I don't know that. Tell you. Talking about what school I went to.  If it's not enough dispatches. If it's not enough folks and they don't answer, niggas over. You try to switch on the niggas. The only time that I get to talk about what school I went to. I didn't know if police don't answer sometimes.  Because we have so many dispatches. But I can only imagine how much dispatch is Atlanta got. Y'all got dispatches, but ain't no way to get to nobody. What you mean?  Ambulance. I seen plenty of ambulance. Take the train. All right, buddy. You in track.  He better off. Y'all take him outside the ambulance. That is a good point. That's a good point. Run the motherfucker. You'll make it. They need to have a little thing. They can do it. They can do it.  Go where? No, the fuck, we're not. Oh, they can strap him up to like a helicopter. You can sway them all the time.  Hell, no. Hell, no. Helicopter. I think he's working. Where you going with that fly?  Please don't pick me up. Please don't pick me up in the helicopter. I'm shitting on everything under me.  Wherever you trying to take me. What? Oh, my God. Hell, man. Damn, man, play me some real pen in this town, bro.   That ain't fair, boy. I don't want the motherfucking soft stuff all along. You feel me? No. Because we got a very extraordinary young lady with us today. Hey, yo. Multi-tapety. One dispatcher in New York City history. No cap. Back. Now, she is known as one of the coldest ladies in battle rap.  Thank you.   She don't miss an event. Always putting on. None other than Jazz the Rapper. Yeah. Yeah. What a good trip.  So? I saw you. I saw little, but you a battle rap little sister. Hey, you ain't grown now. I'm grown. No, you're not. I'm a daddy. Not like that. I'm a girl. Not like that. Have you lost your daddy? Lost what? Because you know that was the narrative over there. Did you lose it? 60 years ago, man. Oh, you lost it. I'm late. He's too late.  Oh, exactly. You ain't seen me versus Gattis, did you? No. I ain't see that one. I said my life like the Mario Brothers, the pipe took me to another level. What are we doing? What are we doing? Took you to another level. What level did you go to? Right. 85 South Shore. Yo, hey. Come on.  What's yours gonna say? Say you're- I do got purple hair. I'm from Brooklyn. Yes, I do. Yeah. And then when you say it don't hit like that, cause she just told us that, dummy. So it's your底mouth. Do you whatever that's in your mouth? You know what I might have, like not on physical, cuz everyone's my favorite rapper, but I may have likes- Like you're the first make a acced linguistic. Really? Yeah.   Yeah. What brought you to the battle rap shit? So I was always like, since a kid, I was always a fan of battle rap from like 13 watching Smack DVD and stuff like that. I never thought I would be a battle rapper though. Like that wasn't a thing for me. First of all, they wasn't- You knew the look. The only girl they had was Rami, Lady Luck and that girl, Samira Reese. Like it wasn't really a thing. So I'm just watching as a fan, 13, 14, watching Moog, Lux, all them people. 19 years old.  And I was already a rapper though. So it's not like, I actually recorded my first song here in Atlanta. Show us in Atlanta. Come on, man. So, yeah, I was already a rapper and then at 19, I had did a radio show and D-Bo that owns Queen of the Ring, the all female league. He hit me up like, yo, I think you should battle him. I'm like, I'm not mean enough. Right. Like, what? You feel- Yo- It's crazy, man. I'm like, I'm not mean enough. Like, he like, just come to an event and see how it is. So I went to an event. I'm like, okay, this is cool. And then Newborn, he's a battle rapper. He told me I could do it. He was like, yo, Jazz, you can rap. You have punchlines. You just gotta learn how to write it for a battle. Right. And DNA told me, don't do it. Follow Newborn and now we here.  Newborn and DNA. That's great. That's a ball. You could be a battle rapper. That's a ball. Don't hype this thing. I know, I know. I do it. Who? Yo. Who I'm battle- Battle all the- Oh my god.  I had to battle you. But my head ain't little.  No, you have a protein. Hey, yo. We gonna have that. Do it, do it. Take place. Yo, do it. There you go. Hey.  Somebody really, somebody go get land. Blue Chew wants to help you have better sex. Discover your options at bluechew.com. Chew it and do it. Does it work? Does it work? Are you- Yes, it works. Of course it works. They wouldn't be able to sell it if it didn't work.  You wanna leave a lasting impression. You wanna be the one that she can depend on. Because you keep that tool for your tool in your toolbox. And you know what's really considerate and convenient. They send you an email and be like, hey, your order's being prepared. Should be there about 11 on a Wednesday. 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Please tell me. So next time I see this motherfucker, I'm... I know the first one was the nastiest amateur. The nastiest amateur, damn. Damn, with a DNA name. Real name is the nastiest amateur. That was what it was for, like back when he was like 16, but he changed it. That was probably a thousand, no. You know, it came over a whole bunch. I remember when he did what? Nah, that was, I'll tell you right, when he said D-nanny. Oh, the nanny? You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? Bro, go behind the chair, bro. Damn, bro. You know you? Do your hand like this, man. Now do this shit, man.   Now you ready? Try to get the keys. A lot of keys. Oh, man.  That nigga got them tatted type of hands.  What I got to mean, right? Them motherfuckers, they look strong. I'm telling you. Know how, look, they look, but when they get angry, they make the hands you want. I'll do something with these hands, yeah. Yeah. This is wrong with y'all, man. That my dog, bro.  Y'all crazy, man.  That's all they do is clown. That is true. Sooner they get done with the battle, they already on the next battle.  Long as the bag, right? Niggas always talking about, yeah, long as the bag, right, never battle. Nigga, that bag been right. You ain't want to take that battle. Niggas is lying. Niggas be scaring me. I'm niggas. No, not the scared part. I mean lying. I'll be turning down the bag, bro. Why? You turning the bag down? Yeah. Why? Everything ain't worth the bag. So you battle with you, when you comfortable. And when do that? And when do is that happen? When I feel like it's a person that I gotta be to prove something, to prove I'm better. That's why I say you always come to show up, to show up for them. And that's why too, like, because I'm not battling every month. So it's like when I do pop out, I gotta make it count. Right. You feel me? It's almost like a actor that don't act in a lot of movies. But when you see him, it counts. Like I'm gonna make sure it's that, because battle rap fans, they're very like, what have you done for me lately? That's the new ones. Nah, I've been like that a long time. I mean, I'm from back in the day.   Niggas be doing that. Nah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Read dollars, tech, man.  I'm old, man. But see, I'm back there and I'm gonna read all of them on that with me, man.  You see what I'm saying? So it's like, I understood when a nigga choke, but that was an error, like if you choke, you lost the battle. Yeah, how are you now? Like you lost the battle. Yeah, now if you choke, it's the choke. Niggas can like bounce back. You still can win. Nah, it be fans that be like, okay, this person choked in this battle or they wasn't as good as I thought they would be. So now they kind of like turn on you a little bit. That's the new fans.  That's the new fans. Nobody counts on you. Niggas just be like, bro, I want to see you like go crazy. Like I told Swamp, I'm like, bro, Swamp, I want to see you battle like how you battle your armor. Every battle, nigga. I love every battle. But this the thing people gotta understand. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you.  It's hard to battle everybody the same.  Nigga, I want some.  I didn't talk about it in a battle with a grace. No! I like that part of it too. I like the background of it. I like the way you say it. I like the way you say it. That's crazy. Yo, what I say? Yo, what I say? Nigga, if you had a house, I would be in this city.  Yo, what I tell them? Yo, what you tell them?   Ain't her name Jo-Wil? Oh. Yo, yo, see it? You can battle here and write. Ooh. Why could they both own?  He about a moon? Y'all remember old school take nine? Of course.  Then I get to the pay. That nigga said you watch fake. Your name? He don't know. What? You don't know. You don't know. Nah, you don't know. Yeah, we know. You don't know. We don't know. No, nigga. That's your people. Go ahead.  That's what happened.  No, man, rest in peace. Take nine. Yo, I can't walk out.  Very sensitive topic. Oh, for real? Yeah. All right, we should all love everybody. All right, there you go. There you go. That's a good way to put the cap on. You did pick the most controversial. Yeah, out of everybody, you pick. For real?  We got, um... Deceded Charlie Clips. Charlie Clips. Charlie Clips. Charlie Clips. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I love everybody. How about we load it? See, how we load it, then? With, he would know how to adapt. If he knew how to adapt, he would be a... If he'd be hard to do. Nah, when I say he'll be hard to do. When I say he'll be hard to adapt to, people wanna see that motherfucker that you're... Don't adapt. No, no, don't adapt. You gotta adapt. I ain't say adapt. I'm talking about... You gotta adapt. It's like the style of the game. No, all that's gotta do is, you know what it is? All battle rappers have done it. Cause I'm not battle rapping the same way I did in 2011 when I started. Because I'm adapting to what wants to be heard. And I feel like with Lux, now I'm saying he gotta just be simple as hell. No, but you have to cater to the crowd. Niggas need to understand you and feel you. Yeah, it was good, 2012, 2015. But 2023, just do it a little bit. And he's nice enough to do it. He's nice. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, are you super nice? I don't know if he's tougher than what, but no. What if he just talking to Louie, talking to me? No, because he technically showed it when he battled Calico. Yeah, but I'm saying like, what if he just... It was like, all right, all right. But what if he just found his market and he just said, it showed that he knew how to do something. He knew how to do something. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? If he would have kept that same energy and brought it with him, it would have been a wrap. Cause that what me, Cal, who Cal, was. You like, well you just went at it with Lux, nigga. That was big.  That was big. You did that. That was big for Calico. You did that. Yeah. But that's why he been online like that. Who? Cal. Oh yeah. Cal definitely is the only, cause he not a punchline nigga. Mm-mm. He gonna skeen, that nigga just wrapped.  He just wrapped. He know how to wrap. He just wrapped. He know how to wrap. Who your favorite is? Rum nitty.  Anybody gonna get rum? That's my goat. You don't gotta eat rum, son. No, I did not. Rum nitty's my goat. That's the dude. Anybody gonna get rum?  No, when I first started, cause see, it was my heavy influence. Like if you watch my early battles, you gonna be like, oh, she wrapped, just like this nigga.  I think he can. I know he can. The nigga just. But he gotta, I don't think he should go against rum nitty first though. He too happy. I do. I do. He's too happy. You see, his life too great. Okay. But he niggas don't like to speed it though. Niggas be like, this nigga's gonna be a great battle. This nigga is literally like the LL Cool J battle rap. Like I ain't even rapping with a Suicide.  It's hard to create when you have it, man. Everybody who created it know that you're in good space. Yeah.  But we're talking about, I Rico's father they conceded, man. He's living too good. No, but then I'm trying to tell you, he left on a great high eights. He knows what's on the line. Rum nitty gonna battle, you can see that that date ain't gonna battle another nigga the next month. It don't matter. You think he's even better? You do not wanna come from being, living so well and comfortable to go on in battles and figure who got something to do with it. You gonna lose every 10. You got something to prove though. No, you don't. Excuse me. He gonna leave that.  I'm telling you, Conceited got something to prove.  It's the people who really doubt Conceited. He knows that, but what he's saying is when you live it good, you don't have to say you're hungry. Because you have no drive to eat. He just was nervous to be like who was good enough. He always felt like when nobody good enough.  Because that's all the people that kept comparing the rum to. Hold up, I didn't mean to cut you out. What do you have? He really felt like when nobody good enough, he like I don't care about that nigga. I used to literally be on tour with him. What about this nigga? He's like, watch them niggas. I told him. I'm like, ah, damn. This nigga thank you. I'm gonna rap a prince, man. He don't care about me.   He's like, I don't think he features with everybody.  Yeah, that's what I'm trying to take. Everything gotta be important. Now that makes sense. Yeah. You can see that. I always asked that nigga, I said, bro. Are you ready? He talk about niggas. I don't think I got some put up. I should still that. I should still that. He gone crazy.  That nigga disrespectful.  Mm-hmm. Probably still is. Ain't nobody to talk to. Don't nobody to talk to him.  I checked off in the kitchen.   Don't mention.  Why you have to say that shit? You need me not to talk about your dad, dad. Who got shot in that head when you was nine, nigga? I'm just letting you know that it was on my mind, nigga. I was like, yeah. And that was good. You just freestyle that up, yo, boy. That was all right.  You know why? Because you ain't sound like Arsenal.  You sound like, it's a bad habit.  Yeah, I was like, this is one to see if you can do it. He's trying to hide by our Arsenal name. Yeah, I'm Arsenal right now. Yeah, fly. If I die, that ain't Arsenal, nigga.  Ah!  Nigga said, you ain't be asking me to try again. I didn't know. Well, you know what I'm talking about? He grew up, he's the first nigga that I ever went to go see Pruva Ground, too. He the reason why I started watching Pruva Ground.  You can even go battle on URF, that's what it is. And I'm going to find out. Briggs Rothstein. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, shout out to Briggs. He making me mad though with all the little feud they got going on.  Nigga, can't run with you. At this point, he won. I feel like battle rap is a very tough industry. Why? Because people are crazy. That's why. I still, I still like the fans, like the fans really like. The fans ain't really fans, bro. They're not real fans.  I ain't never vote. But you don't understand. They didn't really just say anything.  They be fans of individual motherfuckers. Yeah, they be. I'm about to cat on it. It's a lot to deal with. It's a lot to deal with. I'm only watching there, but I like it.  You just got to play the game. A nigga. Some people got built to play the game, though. What if you were entertaining?  Be rapping about something dope out of town.  That's what surfing ended up getting you a free start is. That's my nigga. You got to know how to play the game. He learned. Oh, he learned. He's the last little nigga.  He's like, nigga, I showed y'all how to make it business. I still want to know, is it hard to be a female rapper? A battle rapper. Is it easier to deal with you single? Because you can be mad when you single. You got a nigga.   You really do turn up sometimes when y'all got niggas. I would say this. Last year was my busiest year in battle rap. And I wasn't dealing with no niggas. Like, I was involuntarily celibate. Like, and I didn't realize till like 10 months later. You need to fix it, you got to tell them. Because your voice is getting deeper. You need a nigga. No, first of all. Nah, because, see, I was celibate for a year. I'm like, you didn't sound like that. Like, she ain't got no niggas. Nah. You think that's a thing. I think that's why I say what I'm saying. No, that wasn't what you want, man.  So, but I'm the dad. See, she think she's the dad. She ain't got no niggas. She ain't forgot her rope. Nobody put her in her place.  I'll just be the man I want. Right. I'll be the man I want. I'll just be my own nigga. Jack and her little deal don't walk. She tell me I'll be my own nigga. Who I like, me. No, but, but yeah, when you battle though, if you are in a relationship, are you dealing with somebody? They got to understand, all right, look, babe, I had a right for this battle. I can't talk to you for a few hours. Broward loves to be a battle rapper, the nigga that brought his girl. I switched my old flow, first opening bar.  They be doing that. That ain't got nothing to do with this battle. Let's just keep that between us. Right. They be doing it. Right.  They be live.  Remember who used to ride the Mazda? Nah, I believe it.   They really like the FBI.  I had a body where I called the girl Cynthia and that was not her name. But they was like, oh, her name's Cynthia. No. It was my Cynthia.  Today it is.  Cynthia. I don't know if I was gonna do anything just to win the crowd over. Once you win the crowd over, it's like, all right.  They with you. The crowd is very important. The crowd is one of the best to me. I don't want to say the best cause I don't know everybody to pick from.  The nigga Bill Collector. Oh yeah.  It's a lot of people grew on me though. Grew on me like, hey, Bill Collector one on.   He did a lot. He did a lot. What you mean?   He bored. He dribbin' on stage. He was dressed up as a slave in a battle. That's entertaining. That's funny.  It's gonna be out of order. But the one thing I can say about a shot you can tell he read like a motherfucker and he's highly intelligent. It's just sometimes when he moves, you be like, bro, you do that.   So he's like, what you gonna do about it? Ain't nobody gonna fight him? Yeah. Yo, the nigga put his hands in his pants. And rub the nigga's face. Ah!  He the battle went on.  The crowd went for it. I wouldn't put my hands in. Yeah, that's doing too much. No, he's like, he did that.  I told him to do nothing. And he didn't do nothing? No. Man, I'd have been in the last battle all the time.  He moved, but it's that crazy, like, you know what you're thinking too. He didn't look at all that way. It's that right there. Damn. Hell no. Have a better go. Come back in. Yep. Have some crazy. It cost your mind.   Absolutely not. I just rap. Right.  I rap and I go home.  That's my next question. She go hard, though.  That's a classic. That's a classic. He be watching you for real. Clearly, I see. We been following each other for bad long. Who watch all her shit? I'm not a girl.  You remember when Niggas kept doing, I got a gun so big, boss? Yes. And I did 40.  Niggas went dumb. Stupid. Stupid. Yeah. I got a gun so big, it don't work. I could have said that. You could have. Yeah. You could have. It was a little while ago. She had it. Damn. See, that's what you was talking about, though. That's known to all the audience. I said I'm talking to people rapping about guns that they don't squirt. Yeah.   Oh, that sound better. You have to set up. You used to set up. Yeah, I feel you. I feel you. I feel you. I feel you.  Bigger than my leg, nigga. Every time I walk out with it. What happened? I walked with it. You know how they can get in for it round and then round. I just got a second. We walk without it. That's right. We walk without it. That's why they should be getting violent, because the niggas forget their bars. But you know what it is, though? It be the niggas behind the niggas. Yeah, it really do. It be the niggas behind the niggas. He's running out of rap and he mad now. It doesn't be the best bars, though. The gun bars be the best ones. Of course.  Yeah, they don't. They don't rap. So they really be thinking the niggas be dead, too, when they be rapping to their pop. I killed you. No, you won't, nigga. He's playing. It's just battle rap. It's battle rap. No, he gotta get through the rhymes. Who else is nice out there? Twirt. I'm not gonna say twirt. Nice. It's a nigga named twirt. New Jersey twirt. New Jersey twirt. Okay, that's better. T.W. Ball. Okay. They don't know about him by his name. Yeah, but. But he's easy. They made for that name his first year, and then after that they said, oh, no, he a problem. But you know what? I saw him with a... With a... Nigga from... Cut from a different cloth. Nigga from New York. Cut from a doggy. Doggy. I'm gonna not say he rapping in his doggy. That nigga just hit the doggy.  That nigga just hit the doggy.  That nigga? That nigga was in jail.  He called with his dog. But the nigga fight with him. He's like, nigga, I keep the doggy on. I'm out. He do. He really did that.  You do...   He ain't won no ball that was fired with the Miller. So... When he told that nigga, he said, he said, He said I got the gun in this part nigga. We playing tug-of-war.    You know what it is? I think T-Top just had the right approach. Cause I'm tired of people just using Christian angles against Christians. Like you gotta do it creatively and I feel like T-Top did that. But T-Top is a creative nigga though. He definitely did. But he did it the way somebody always talk about Christians. Yeah. He did it. I'm talking about he did it. That's right. Damn. 22, 22, 22, 22. You a Christian?  I follow 22. But that's his thing. Like I'm a Christian in battle rap.  That's facts. You can't be out there bullshitting. You got a whole direct connection with the Lord. You think the Lord don't know you are a battle rapper? Right. Lord, I don't really talk like this but let me get in my bag right quick. Right. Ooh. Ooh. That's going. That's a bar. What? That's going for sure. You supposed to be a creative. You got Jesus on your side. You could run with that.  But then you'll be a repeated. No, you won't. You're still working for the Lord. You know.  Everybody who read the Bible knew Jesus. Wait, wait, no. The Christian rapper be giving them Bible study instead of punching real guys. Jesus was out there with the niggas. Everybody didn't know that. Because when he joined 316, it told me that I couldn't be moved. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because everything ain't green. You need to get your life together. I'd be like, bro, you know what I'm saying? You don't like A-Word? You right? Oh my God, damn, man.  A-Word don't do that. A-Word go crazy, yup.  Let's see. A-Word. But A-Word is smart though. A-Word cold. That thing is smart. Who is this battle? This last battle. Who was an RBE? RBE. Who is this battle? Oh, come on, man. Big K. Yeah, that was a good battle. $3 still at it? Yeah. He came back like maybe like four or five years ago. I got to check him out. Like every time he get better. Like better. Swing. My bad. How you feel like he did with Chess? He was decent. I think that's why he was still learning. Chess still be throwing up.  He feelin' that's like asking about some comedies.  Chess hasn't battled. Chess battled in December. He can't throw up. No. And what happened to him?  I think he got Acid reflux. I know he got Acid reflux. That nigga is cold. When I say cold. Chess cold. One of my best performing niggas. I was in the crowd there, on behind him, when he put out a tear off.  I was right. When he back tear off. When he told that nigga, nigga. Nigga hit that rock bottom. Now he said, I put the cave on the rock like I'm spellin' it the proper way. I was like, eeeew. Put the rock, put the cave on the rock. I'm spellin' it the proper way.  What he say about the people's elbow? Rock bottom? He said, he used the rock bottom bar. Something about rock bottom. People's elbow. Shit was crazy. Bro, you seen the little kids on Instagram that do the battle rap bars? Ooh.  I think I did see that.  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They been gone crazy.   I had to go. I had a show. You know what I'm sayin'? It was in Atlanta. You shoulda been there. I had a show. You shoulda canceled the show. Hey yo! What you wanna do?  Ooh. That's what I was gonna ask ya. We can get, give me some of your favorite bars. That's what real rap is. We don't need no setup. We set it up right now. What are some of Jazz DeRappa's favorite bars? By me or just in general? You doin' it. Come on. You just start with yourself. Oh, start with me? Right. Let me see, let me see. She gettin' in her bag. You see her? Let me think. I got a lot.  I was tryin' to go, I wanna go old Jazz. Yeah, old Jazz.  I bet. Battle E. Hart. I said. So, I need to give you the background. Remember when I battled official? That's actually the first battle. I remember the official, yes. So, everybody was sayin' she cooked me.  So, everybody waitin'. All right, now Jazz gotta come back. So, my next battle, I was like, somethin' like, the battle with official. Shit was crazy, it was wild. Well, now I know. If I wanna make a room blow up, then I'll cater to the crowd.  Y'all want the Jazz that battle 40?  Stocked in Milan on the pick and roll. But it's that old Jazz. That's a classic Jazz, like, you know what I'm sayin'?  Hello, man.  I'll rewind a whole battle. Right. That's definitely one of my favorites, though. When I'm battle.  I'll say, should I just post this on Twitter, on my Sheena Ashley battle?  So, I just posted a battle clip when I was 19. So, I started at 19. Right. And I had told Sheena, this one of my favorite bars, just because like, I don't know, y'all might not know though, cause y'all know I'm from New York. Oh, it don't matter, I know everything. I'm bein' in New York. It doesn't sound right. It doesn't sound right. I'm tryin'. I'm tryin'. You done eatin' in New York?  She talkin' to a nigga that then ate $500 worth of $1 piece. Come on, man. Nigga, I eatin' in New York. I ain't never eatin' in New York. I don't feel more toothed, though.  Who though? You try to say, I eatin' in New York. I said, it was somethin' like, you know, niggas like talkin' about niggas in the background.  That's what happens when your dogs talk. Ah! Hello!  That's what happens when your dogs talk. Ah! That's 11 years ago, niggas talk. You need us to etch a battle rap.  You know what? I got to go, I got to go. Yo, nigga, did you, did you hear that? Yo, niggas ain't listenin' to jazz. You know what I'm sayin'?   You know, you can battle. What's the short nigga with that little beard, man? I'll battle whoever, go get him. Tell him, bring his mom, just sister, bring his whole family weather. It'll be me by myself, with a big-ass gun. Who then that motherfucker and my youngest son? Two yellow bitches, two dogs gangers, got a four-door wagon nigga that can all get in. He just battled on drugs. Niggas for a craze. I'm a slim nigga, but one thing, I'll never be ashamed. I'll have to see the name.      Oh! That ain't the president, man. Now, there's somebody in the back, like, I'm next! Yo, that said the background is so funny, bruh. I said you were six, boy, every bar.  That's it? Comin' down the hallway like Melvin. She thought I was gon' ring nine, but her nigga brought in 11. Oh, I be goin' crazy. Be goin' crazy, fuckin' mad bitches. That was impressive. I just had to say it.  I had to. It's for the streets. No cap. The streets gon' wash, dude. I bought her a stoop. I know the audience. That boy a stoop. My microphone didn't fell off, I wasn't crazy for real. I was all my fuckin' friends.   Get him a soda. The nigga with the little teeth. Bangs. That nigga hard. See what you talkin' about? Nah, another little teeth, hard. If he said that nigga with the little teeth, he gon' see this. Of course. But I fought with him. That nigga hard. I say hard. If he, him and Fettie? Fettie battle. Yeah, Fettie crazy.  Fettie is crazy. I feel like it's underrated. Fettie truly 20s. Fettie truly 20 is crazy. You ever gotten to fight in a battle? No. Yo, I'm gonna be honest. That go crazy. I'm not even gonna try and jazz. In battles, it really don't be fights. What, what's sounding like my Mike fellow? It don't really be fights for real in battles. Like, people be thinkin', yo, if I go to a battle, it's gon' be a fight. No. You ain't gotta come, just tell me. Nah, it be a lot of little rah-rah. I'm good. Yeah, it be a rah-rah, but niggas don't be fightin'.   And niggas be friends, man. Yeah.   I was like, Right, it's like niggas, we can do this. Y'all can't do this. Right. We can argue, but the people in the back got respect enough to cheer. If we ain't testin' it, y'all don't touch it. Yeah, it's part of the culture. But something's on, it's stayin' there though. Niggas be from the block. Niggas be from the block. Like, yo, I'm comin' to your battle, niggas. They're like, no, you're not. I know, right?  Yeah, I know how to act.  I'm like, nigga, he has to act like that. That's part of the game. He gotta act like he don't like me.  Yo, it really be hard when you're ready for a battle for somebody that's just cool. They be like, damn, like I really gotta, I'm really about to say this to them.  Like, I be like, I don't deserve them. Right, that's what I'm be saying. Like, we all really be friends. Yeah, that's hard. Because back in the day, they really didn't like each other. Yeah, back in the day. Now it's like, y'all just friends. Yeah, we just gonna get our bread. And even if they not your friend, you still understand, all right, I'm a battle rapper, you're a battle rapper.   Who did you battle in your then life? For real.  Like, didn't like them as a person? I ain't like that. It's just like, it's up, it's beef. Just because we going at it. Never, cause for one, it take a lot for me to not like somebody. I'ma keep it a butt. Like, I don't even care about people, son. Like, I used to be trying to rap for real. Told that lady she was a bad mother. I never told her my idea was a bad mother. See? You were lying. Yeah, I never told her my idea was a bad mother. I never did that.  I would.  You let your baby and wick somewhere for five days. Bitch, you was laid, uh-uh, didn't get paid. You a bad mother. I got the slugger pop.    I just thought it's true.  I'ma do it.  It's cool. It's cool.  I'ma get it. What if I shit? That's cool. They can wait for the jazz space to rule. That's cool. That's what I fucked. He wanted you to validate it. I'm falling in the water. Yeah, how you like that? Talk about gasping them up. Yeah, I really gassed you. You heard his feelings. It wasn't good. You going beautiful? Yes. Jeff? Just trying to impress you. Anyway, yeah, I don't get too personal. Anything I say in the battle is known. Like, it's known in battle rap. So I don't give them too much self. If somebody was a bad mother, I would say it if it was said already. Really? Yeah. But if it wasn't said, then we're gonna roll. If it's real, if it's personal, I'm not gonna say it. Cause I just feel like it's not that serious doing a battle, bro. Like, it's really not that serious. Damn. I just be rapping. I'ma do a battle. I'ma rap.  I'm saying whatever the fuck, even if it ain't true, I'ma say it and make people believe it. You gotta know. People really do that. That's the game of battle rap. I need you to believe what I'm telling you. Right.  Oh, shit, but I believed it. If it's real, it's gonna be like, whoa, shit, jazz made it sound believable. That's what I'm saying.  I don't believe it. She don't got no kids. That's how bad of a parent she is. I don't believe it. Somebody in the crowd. She got no kids. That's how bad of a parent she is. Man, I'ma be on the edge. Go crazy. Please.  I can tell you be battling over your tongue. I'm just waiting on the right challenge. Yeah, he really got his bars prepared. He really does. Yeah, we gotta have that money on it. I'm bringing my own money.  The unreadiness? Put me in the unreadiness. You're rusting.   Now you gotta go to the proven ground. Oh, I gotta go to proven ground. Proven ground. Don't worry about it. Give me one more. Give me one more. Jazz, yo, Jazz, come on now. On the top of the dome? Do what? That'll wrap bars. That'll wrap bars. Nigger, okay, we was talking about crosses. Nigger, I'm a boss. Hit you with the dagger.  That's the youth with this man, Jazz the rapper. He is the manker forever. Stop, see? I'm a manker, not a rapper. Let me stop, man. See how he's trying to prove himself. She getting me out of my car. I would put these niggas in drum and drummer.  You can call it airtime, but...  I helped him.  That was funny. Man, I'm trying to get y'all like this. Bro. Never make it.  You said they were decent. She be around the best in the world, man. Okay. But I was playing on the curve. But that was decent. That was your best one. Let me tell you something. What? Ain't no laughy duck. Ain't no scrappy duck. I'll hit you with a mad duck loan. Woo! I miss. That's why I call that dashy duck. You don't get it. Stop!  You with me? Let's go. So fast, niggas. You sold it. That's why I stay out my lane. I stay out of their lane. No, they gonna be a fan. I got another question. Who you think got the coldest tag? Me. What are we doing? Facts. What are we doing? Niggas said facts.  I got two of them. And you know I hit them with the... You know what scuffs my Tims? That's it! Then I'll tell you what scuffs my Tims.  Whoa. What are we, what you trying to say? Scuffed my Tims? Yes. If you say you know what creased my Air Force is what that mean.  Exactly. I don't know New York lingo. But if I like Tims and I scuff them, I'ma be mad. You true. That right? Come on. Carlos. See that? See that's what you got to do. That's crazy. See that? I ain't even tripping. That's what you got to do. She just played me. But I'ma stick to the side with my little baby. That's why I call it a 3A. You hear me? Ooh. This nigga. That was good. 30A? This nigga. Come on, man. Move, baby. Come on, man. I caught that one. That was a good one. Yeah, he's the problem. Let me tell you something.  Come on, man. Start playing with it. With the racket. With the racket. Yeah. Yeah. The ad libber. The best tag. Peace fitter. What was your other one? Come on, get it. My slogan, if y'all... Yeah. Don't flip it. Yeah. Whatever. I don't smoke, I drink. What you think? I feel like that goes to real life. Dead, nigga. That way. That's what I'm talking about. Niggas ain't no spitters. He's got my chip on this one. I don't smoke, man. My chip on this one. Who do you think got the best tag? Hey, man. What is wrong with y'all? This nigga. We're getting better with our bars. We're getting better. I don't want y'all to give up. I don't want to see you anymore. I don't want y'all to give up. Something wrong with these niggas, man. Crazy, bruh. The brains is fresh. I don't know what's happening. It's funnier when you laugh at it. I didn't hear it.  When they put it back, they go hit. They better laugh like this. They better laugh like this one. They gonna think y'all are on drugs, man. I don't understand, man. You ain't never seen a battle rap for real. It's a nigga rap just like that. He's got my chip on this one. I don't smoke, I drink.  Hey, man. I feel like since you're here, we got to be sponsored by Al Capone. What's that got to do with me? I don't know. All of the battle rap will be sponsored by Al Capone. I don't know. That was so 2015. Yeah, that's what we had with it. The intro used to be long. Al Capone Cigarillos.  Oh, man. You okay? Huh? Don't say nothing to this dude, man. Please don't. Don't go screaming again. Leave him alone. Let him get over this, man. Take a while.   Leave him alone, man. We got that going. Right.   I'm gonna be a little sorry. You're fucked, man. Oh, man. It was my liver.  Jazz. We need some help. What? Well, we broke it. I think both of us. All right, man. I can help dad. You can't help me. Look at his face. Bro.  Honey. What? I need to strip him out. Do something. I just take... I talk. He hurt himself. I just take calls. I did not help nobody.  We call now and then. What we gonna say to him?  We don't know what we're doing. Is he ready? Is he awake? We don't know. Send him an ambulance. That's it. Send him an ambulance, huh? None else I could do for you. God damn, bro. Have you ever got to call somebody really hurt themselves? Pass out? No. No. That's possible. They passed out. Absolutely not. They were all friendly calls. Lost keys. I don't know what to tell him when he passed out.  No, bro.  Got a drip. You ain't never seen them battle ride parodies.  That was a mark. You're moving. That was a mark. You still there? Hello? I left last year when I moved. I left right before I moved to L.A. L.A. I'm trying to do everything. I'm trying to get in my...  I'm trying to do everything, honestly. They be doing battle rap to L.A.? Of course. They do everywhere. They rap worldwide. But, uh, get you guys...  You did a battle rap in the Bay Area before? I've never been. But they have battles there. All the time. Why do you miss some men's flights? Niggas ain't battlein' in the Bay. Oh! Ain't a lot about you guys. I know a lot. I know a lot. I tell you. I ain't know if she be missin' flights. She missin' what else? She miss flights. Why do you be missin' flights, Japs? I'm a procrastinator. I get to the airport too late. But I only missed one this year, though.  Listen, I didn't ran through the airport. Barefoot. You want to be the one that's runnin'? I don't. I be really out of breath, though. But they were on the left. It be the last gate gates. 99 out of 100.  And it just like the end. That's the end. Imagine what I be missin'.  We're beginning.  Albuquerque, you gon' put Albuquerque in the front.  You next go in the front. Ain't a lot of flights this year. Absolutely. I miss the flight out of Atlanta. Cause that fuckin' line is crazy. Atlanta got the worst airport in the world. Yeah, get TSA, baby.  Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I have clear. No, let me tell you something. I have clear. That ain't good of them. There's no reason I was on clear for a whole hour. That ain't good of them. Gotta get TSA clear. Everybody was late that day. I had clear. I thought I was. Atlanta clear is different. I had to walk past me, man. Tryna flake shot my boy. What, out of Atlanta? The big thing. Nah, I was somewhere else, man. They could walk by me. They didn't have clear. Cause you know every airport don't got clear. TSA ain't clear. So I'm clear.  I had to go walk by me. I would get a job at the Papis at the airport if it get me through the motherfucking line fast.   I want it. TSA paycheck is not that much of a difference from clear. No, it's not. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. I'm clear. The glorification you just... There's another line. That's cooking in all three of them niggas.  We get through some cognition. required me.  Damn man.   Yeah. He got my ID, it's like, say my name. That's a dispatch. Nah, I ain't gonna lie, I miss it sometimes though. Just go back and be part time. It was an easy job. Do part time. You already qualified. You don't want to do four months of training. Now don't go back to work for me.  Thank you. Do them shits become like, do you borrow sometimes? No.  He's like, ooh. Nah, they ain't saying like, nobody died, man. But it was like, they survived. But it's like, bitch, I'm gonna use this bar. You never got to use that bar back in Livingston. Yeah. Give my little one percent. That Livingston took me out all the time. Livingston, you ain't never heard a nigga put that in the rest.  That was funny. Come on, man. Nah. I've rapped about calls that I've gotten. But I rapped in the guidance battle. You didn't see that battle? Yeah. I rapped in the guidance battle. It really be crazy. But like I said, when you, you getting up to it, you getting up to it. You take a call, somebody got shot. Next call, somebody not breathing. Next call, somebody had a heart problem. You get used to it. Yeah. You just put one up there. You're not breathing. Come on, next call.  So you end up in it. Wait, wait, wait. You see your career go on. Yeah. Count it. I definitely, I've always saw myself in music. But then as I got older, I've always seen myself just being some type of personality. Because that's the thing that kind of kept me relevant in battle rap. Like, all right, jazz can rap. But she also got a fire personality. Like, I feel like I do good with things that's just shown me.  You got a podcast too. I don't have a podcast. We had a show. We just had a show on caffeine. How's he doing? He's good. I suppose that maybe like two weeks ago. Yeah, he's doing good. He's always in high spirits. Well, yeah, I just want to do stuff like that, really. And that's why I moved to L.A. Because I know a lot of people in L.A. anyway.  So I feel like everything's going to go good. Don't let them folks say no dream. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Hell, no. You'll get out of there. I'll put you in the mood tomorrow. As soon as the market hits. Meet me here. Meet me down. You had lunch. You hold me out there.  I'm inside of Monica. I'm inside of Monica. I'm over here. I don't know the scene in my butt. Yeah, nah. But yeah, that's... I'm really trying to get into that because I'm not going to be bad rapping when I'm 40. Respectfully. Why are some people like that book 40? I'm 40. I'm just about to start.  I wasn't talking about you. I woke up an old nigga. Better get my knack first. Like, which one? Old nigga, smack first. Oh, okay. See, this is... My nigga, he woke up an old nigga. He about to get an old nigga, snack first.  That was hard at the end of the thing I said. I'm old nigga. I got to get my knack first. I got to get a knack. I got to take my knack first. He's like, yeah, I'm going for that. I'm like, oh, not a nigga. That's gas.  He said it. We in a whole another lane. These niggas need to be battling outside in the parking lot.  I can't come over there. I'm just peeing you back on everything you said. I didn't say, check my liver. I don't smoke 100. Y'all burnin'. That was fast. There you go. Man, there you go. Bar. That ain't gotta say fast. You're part of the news. That's your part of the news. What? Push your social media so they can follow you and check you out. Jazz the rapper.  Jazz with one Z. Pop it. The rapper regular.  So it's jazz with one Z. Why you don't like two Z's? It's ugly.  No, it's J-Z. J-Z is like Jaws. Like J-Z. See what I'm saying? That wasn't crazy. Man, do you live a life? Man, check my liver. I don't smoke or drink. Fast. Get these niggas out of here. Boom. It's always that nigga in the crowd.  Let me run. You boy nigga. Come on, my nigga. That's corny. But the crowd has got gangsta know back then. Since back then, they would at least be like, come on, man.  Come on. Yeah, they be rough. They on your head. I'm just saying, the fans be rough?  You really got impressed these motherfuckers. They didn't hurt everything. But they really be civilians though. You pay to be here. You pay to be here. Why are you acting like that? Let us rap. They really be civilians. Niggas have to talk with all them guys. Yeah, that's what they do. They want to be on stage or they want to be on footage and be like, you know what's mean.  Well, there you have it, folks. Jazz the rapper. This is your first time stopping through here. We got to get you. We need the black-ass show. She signed it. Oh, yeah. Mine is gold. I'm the only gold one. They're back. They'll be right like a second grader. First of all, it's a table. Tell us. Close. It's a big money. First of all, everybody only right like a second grader. It's a big money. I'm helping them. They love it.   Flex for the camera for us one time. That's all we got. Let me see, let me see. Just flex for the camera. Ooh. Okay. Oh, and it smashed my hair. Let's go. Yeah. I needed some joggers anyway. I need them. That's a good gift. See if she can see it. Who are you? I'm back. I need some socks. I need this. Oh, the crop top. Oh, crop top. Money for bread. Yeah. See, she is, huh? I've been wearing crop tops since I was 18. Got the T-shirts. Come on now.  Yeah. Nah, I'm American. Oh, good. Oh, man, stay here. Hello. Yeah. Hello, hello. And it's the right size. It's two. Y'all did that.  What we got? What's this?  What does that say? Bando. No, it doesn't. That's from you guys. That's from the guys over there. Bando. Bando. Bando. How do you think? J.O.N., you get this, right? Bando. Bando. Bando. Bando. No, I do like it. No, this is the thing. This is the thing. Hold up. This is the thing. Once you put the... This is the bag. Oh! Get it?  Thank you. J.O.N. is a marketing genius. You got to add your own eight ladies.  Right. I like that. Right. You're really a marketing genius. We didn't want to say none, but since you pointed it out... So ladies, when you buy these leggings right here... What they doing? Bando. Hey! It spells Bando. No, I like all of them. And they all my size, too. Shout out to that. And they left you a little room to add to it. Appreciate... Appreciate this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Man, we always work. I don't know what kind of socks you wear, but I was going to get you some 85 self socks. I wear ankle socks. Yo, okay. Well, we don't have our ankle socks in here. Okay. You can wear them inside like that when you go to sleep. What kind of socks? Your sleep socks.  Make sure you check out the 85 self socks.  I need some of them up.  Shit. What are you doing?  Check my living.  You family. You don't smoke or drink, ladies. You don't smoke or drink. Yeah. You know what? I'm already fucking...  No. I'm just playing. I wouldn't put that on. I wouldn't put that on. I wouldn't put that on. I wouldn't put that on. I wouldn't put that on. Niggas won't... Niggas always tell you what they don't do. They don't never tell you what they do.  Yes, sir. Absolutely. Damn. I'm quick to tell you.  Damn, no. So you tell me they really be doing that? Yeah. You mean that? So other drugs is an alternative to make them look out the way. I never thought about that. So you got to find a drug to keep you out of drugs? Right. You smoke? You snop out of it? No, I didn't drink a lot. I don't know. I never snotted. I don't snop. Oh, great.  My father won't never tell you what drug they were asking me. What drug? Hey, you know, when I was, I was. But now? But the time that I was. But the time that I was. I did that. Everybody did that. That's all we did. I was gonna bring somebody. That's all we did. That was the time everybody was doing. That was the time. I got pimped because they tried to get him on tape. Yeah, I was dead. He was on it. He got me on it. But when I was, I was. That's the old dope you with. That lame. I don't know if he's in anybody. It looked like they just took out some cigarettes. I was dead, I was dead. I saw it on the tape. This is what we do over here at 85 s and stuff, man. Thank you everybody, feel welcome to come to and talk about shit the next time. I've seen it, I've seen it.  Absolutely, I know it. You will check with what we at. I know it, I know it. Because she must, she must success in the future. Next time I tell you better be better. See that time, because I won't let it live up. When that mess up, you'll live with that time. That's when I got on it. Look man, you know exactly what we at, 85 South Show, jazz the rapper. You see the young flag, Lewis Bell. And always remember, hold up. Look, let me with that. Hold up, let me with that.   But look, next time you see Lewis Bell. Yeah. Check that nigga's liver, he don't smoke one drink. 85 South Show, we have to get it. He don't smoke. Man, I think we like take my liver. And then he looks over there.  Oh, man. Y'all think he's crazy, man.


Oh, I just lost a minute of my time, so I better speak a little more quickly. So I am a venture capitalist. In fact, word capitalist is in my job description. I'm a raging techno-optimist. We invest in entrepreneurs to change the world day in and day out. But there is one shadow of technology that increasingly has worried me and made me think that perhaps there's an opportunity to get a market mechanism unstuck. And that has to do with some of the side effects of accelerating technological change. I'll just have one graph behind me as I speak. It's the version of Moore's Law that I love from Ray Kurzweil, a logarithmic scale showing computational power over 100 years. A log scale meaning a straight line is an exponential. Here we see a double exponential. The only takeaway I want you to think about as I go through my talk is that the pace of technology progress is decoupled from the economy. Great Depression, World War I, World War II. Humanity's capacity to compute has compounded, unabated and should in the future. So if we look back 100 years, we see a trend line unlike any other. Let's just assume it continues. If it does, the proposition I want to propose is that the accelerating rich-poor gap that we see around us today may not be a cyclical phenomenon that's rectifying. It may be, in fact, a secular trend that is just going to continue forever. Why might this be? Well, as every business becomes an information business, it looks more like the kinds of things we invest in, more like a software business with network effects and winner-take-all dynamics and power laws in the distribution of everything. Website traffic, income of the people that work for these companies. They all follow a power law. They all benefit from network effects. There's only one or two winners in a category, not thousands, in any sector that you might care to be in. As every industry becomes an information business, from agriculture to information services and banking, it innervates the economy. We all become globally competitive. The regional shelters of competition disappear and every kid on the planet competes with every other. And that's a wonderful thing. That's the American dream writ large. When 3 billion people come online for the first time with smartphones over the next two years, as Peter pointed out in his book, Abundance, this is going to be a boon to entrepreneurship and ideas. But it's also going to be an enormous pool of competitors for what few jobs may exist in the information economy. Now, if you think far enough in the future, think about 500 years. Robots will do every task that a human does not want to do and they'll do a better job of it. There need not be jobs in the sense of labor that you pay for, just like there were not jobs in ages of slavery or serfdom. You had a leisure rich that did science and whatever they did. They didn't even think they had a job and they had slaves. We're never going to hopefully have human slaves in the future. That would be uneconomic. We'll have robots and eventually AIs doing the vast majority of tasks and humans will be left to do meaningful work. This may be a nirvana, but then again it may not. How do we get from here to there? Iterations on the economy as it is today, on capitalism as it exists today, within a democracy may not get us there. A patch without thinking about the big picture could be a problem. So instead of ringing my hands and saying, oh gosh, this is something we should just ignore. It's not really for polite company, it kind of makes people feel awkward if they have a lot of money. There may actually be some solutions, some technologies and ideas that take this, I thought, in mind and realize that some signal we're seeing today is going to be large in the future. So by analogy, you might say, well, we should have an extra price focused on clean water, but it's all the more important when you think about climate change. When you think about the 500-year trend, you realize the importance of what you might want to do today. So let me share perhaps some ideas on what that might be. It could be ideas in radical philanthropy. Clearly, the Gates pledge and things like that have had an impact on mitigating the symptoms of a rich, poor gap acceleration. They don't really change the rate at which technology executives accumulate wealth, but they take the pressure off what otherwise may be a particularly stressful situation if they live large like rap stars in LA. You also might think about changes in policy and economics. This is sort of the mega trend that underlies just about all the geopolitical tension and strife that you see in a lot of political debates and economic debates, but sort of the elephant in the room that people don't talk about. Well, maybe we do need to talk about it. Patching the tax code may not get us there. We might need a radical overhaul of some sort looking to a future where you have 80% unemployment. But what does that mean? The whole concept of unemployment may need to change. We've already spent much of our time online editing things, contributing to the collective information and resources on the web, and we don't get paid for that. That's not a job. Many of the people in this room probably don't think of much of what excites you as your job. And lastly, I want to share one last specific idea. It was something I thought was going to be a business that I might want to pursue, and I still do. But perhaps it's better as an X-Price to sort of rejigger people's thinking in a bold way or to get out of a market failure of sorts. And that is, if you think about a future where you don't need to work, what does that look like? And the only thing you want to guarantee is that as you lift the bottom of the pyramid for all but transform it into a spike, where the American dream starts to feel like a lottery, that you don't leave 99% of people fearing for their lives. So the bottom of the Maslow's higher care needs, food, shelter, clothing, and health care, access to education, you want that to be available for free for everyone forever. I think in an age of abundance, physical things would cost a dollar a pound. So the food, shelter, clothing, I think is being handled, the MOOCs are dealing with education, we need something in health care beyond the tricorder prize. We need someone to figure out how to provide free health care forever and make that work. And I think, and this could be a brainstorming session offline, that can be done. There could be a prize that shows how you can achieve that and yet have a business and or self-sustaining mechanism be it a non-profit to make that possible using big data, contributing information over phones initially just with text and AI and a non-human solution set deployed as a service globally to help provide human health for the vast majority of illnesses and conditions that exist in developing world and the developed world. And it eventually would, within a few months, outperform, if it could get started, all existing medical information systems because it would have more data than everyone else on where things have outbreaks, what you do, and what actually works in real data across millions and eventually billions of people. So I just give that as one example of something that may seem interesting on its own. But if you think about it, we should pour a gap, someone has to solve that problem if we're going to have a peaceful transition to the world of abundance that Peter D. Mendez describes in his book. Thank you.


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