Excellent. We demystify what goes on behind the therapy room door. Join us on this voyage of discovery and co-creative conversations. This is The Therapy Show behind Close Doors podcast with Bob Cook and Jackie Jones. Okie doke, welcome back to the next episode of The Therapy Show behind Close Doors with a wonderful Mr Bob Cook and myself Jackie Jones. And today is episode 130. Good God. I know. I know. And what we're going to be talking about today is how to present ourselves in the therapy room and does it really matter? They're good topics as well. Yeah, I think it's a really good one this one. Right, so let's talk forever about this. So how about you start for a moment. You start. What do you think? I think I touched on this in the last podcast about what my perceptions are of a professional psychotherapist and what they should be and whether I meet that criteria. And I don't think I do. So from your frame of reference. Yes. Do you remember back when you went to see your first psychotherapist? Yes. Ever. Right. So do you remember what they were dressed in? Or how they presented? Yeah, yeah. How did they dress and how were they casual? Were they dressed in a suit? How are they? How did they present? Do you remember? More mature, I would say, than what I do. My first supervision was in a suit. Yours. When I first went to a supervision, they were in a suit and very professional looking. But my own personal therapy. Yeah, just mature. What I wouldn't say a mature person would look like. Smiling because I have no idea. A mature person look like. So I'm smiling because I really don't. See, this is what I think it's about. I think this is why I asked the question. It's horses with courses in a way. Yes. In the sense that. A good friend of mine came over is the other day. Our daughter's godmother, Josie, we talk about the class system in the United Kingdom. And she comes from Mauritius. What a lovely place. She spent about 30, 40 years here, but she came over from Mauritius when she was about 20. And we're talking about that. And she asked me, were your parents, which class did they come from? My adopted parents brought me up were very upper middle class. My. Josie's parents were very lower class. I think that's what I think. I think that's what I think. I think that's what I put even though it's in Mauritius. Yeah. By that standard. And then my wife's would be working class as well. Yeah. I don't know anybody from the upper class. But I do know from those two classes. Now I think. How you're. Brought up with the values. Of the class system will determine. What you project. In terms of what you expect. Yes. I believe generally most things. Yeah. We have an internal frame of reference which comes from. The values and belief systems usually that were brought up in. Yeah. Can agree with that. Yeah. So I think the sort of. That's why I said it's horses courses. Because I think you will. Project on what you expect from a therapist or professional. Whatever. From your values and systems. From the class system that you've brought up into. So having said all that lots. I think. People will project on to what they expect from the first therapist according to their histories. So from my history. I expected somebody. To be fairly casually dressed. Somebody who spoke quite well. Somebody that probably had double degrees. Somebody who. Right. You say mature. I didn't think I'm mature. Went into it for me. But it was certainly. They wouldn't be. Slovenly dressed. They would be people who didn't speak very well. Yeah. People that's. You know didn't have a sense of decor room so. You know those upper class. Or upper middle class values. Probably was known as so instilled in me. That I would project that way. Where are you on that now Bob. I've had a lot of therapists now so. I don't really have that so much but I would. I think I still expect. Any therapist that I work with. To not. You know have a sense of. You know I'd want them to have a sense of decor room. I wouldn't want them to be uncouth or slovenly or. Smell. Bad breath or something like that. Yeah. To have a sense of. Appropriateness in how they were. It's interesting. It's an interesting topic, isn't it Bob. I'm just thinking about the people that I was in. The group with when I qualified and whether I would. There was some. People maybe upper middle class in that. Because they used lots of big long words. But yeah, it's just really interesting. Yeah, see. If we take the theory. That we inapt our history. Then. The values beliefs. From our parents or people brought us up. Will be so instilled in us. Or might have gone against them. Take a usual frame of reference. That we probably expect our therapist to fit into that. Yeah. If that makes sense. Absolutely. See when I managed to step I said briefly. You didn't really say much at all. I said I'm going to talk about this podcast. That's my wife. And she suddenly said, Oh. I want somebody who's slovenly dressed or inappropriate or. You know, she also said. She wanted them to have good hygienic habits and things like that. So she had a clear vision in a way. Of what she would expect. I think that I had didn't have a long time to talk to before I came on this podcast. Anyway, I didn't really think about it in terms of presentation of dress. Sense or appropriateness or values. But I do think. As I'm talking to you now. That it will fit into my. Significant others. Values. That I came from. Yeah. I'd expect my therapist, by the way, to be more knowledgeable than me. This is my parents. We put on to me. Yeah. The purpose to be. As I said, very appropriate to be able to speak well, have connection. I've tripped double degrees. All these sorts of things. That scares me, Bob, when you talk like that. I'm a psychotherapist and I am none of them. Yeah. But that's values, I think. Yeah. And in the end, the question really of this. Podcast is, does it matter? Yeah. Absolutely. Well, I think the answer to that is yes or no. Yes and no, actually. Yeah. Because if you go to a therapist that. You're expecting the therapist to be a certain way. Now that could come from your training. But if the therapist doesn't fit into that image. You actually might not come back. Because if we actually talk about the importance of building up a therapeutic relationship. And the building of a working relationship. So the person feels safe and secure in the therapeutic process. Yes. Then they have to come a few sessions to talk about the therapeutic process. Yeah. But if the therapist doesn't fit into that image. You actually might not come back. Because if we actually talk about the importance of building up a therapeutic relationship. Then you can come a few sessions to get used to the person. Yes. So if you turn up and that therapist doesn't speak to you in the way that you think they should do. Or they weren't. In your frame of reference. You actually might not go back. Or so and. The working relationship will take a long time maybe to. Build. Yeah, I get everything that you've said. But if. If I'm working with somebody as in. A therapist. Or a supervisor. It's kind of like I've got to. Get the right energy with them. Rather than qualifications and things like that. I need to get them if I don't get them. Then it doesn't matter who they are or what they do. It's not going to work for me. So I'm kind of more drawn to energy than. All the other stuff that you've mentioned. That makes sense. That's why I think it's an interesting reflection of this. Because. Does the, the energy in word comes that you'll talk about. Whatever that means for you. Fit into your. The class system that we're talking about. The frame of reference that we're talking about. Yeah. Does it somehow fit into that? I don't know. I don't think it would work for me. In a backwards way. If that makes sense. Status symbols mean a lot to me. In my family. Yeah, yeah. So for me in order to feel comfortable in a room. I've got to feel like that we're on. The same level. If somebody uses big long words. And. Tries to befuddle me. Then I don't think it would work for me. And that does. I need to talk plain English in order to connect with me. If that makes it otherwise it alienates me. That's right. And I suspect you've come. And this isn't no disrespect at all. I don't know your history that much. But I suspect you come from the working class system. Absolutely. Yeah. So that fits into the working class.  What we're talking about. Yes. Yes. I don't know. I don't know. People to use long words. Yeah. I see. Literally. I have a physical reaction when you say things like that. But when you were saying a double degree, I'm like, oh. I. I. I don't know whether anybody's walked into my therapy room expecting me to have a double degree. And if they did what. They thought when they saw me. Well, I use double degree as a sort of. Meta for somebody who. Absolutely. Yeah. Has high intelligence and usually it's been to university or something like that. And somebody who's highly knowledgeable. Somebody who's more expertise than me. Yeah. Somebody. And that's really. I think an apple class. What. Yeah. Middle class frame of reference. Yeah. It's a really interesting topic. This Bob. It kind of fires me up because I can remember. On my training course. I'm not sure whether I was the only one or there was only a few of us that didn't actually already have a degree and had been to university. Me being one of them. Well, that's not because to get on to the most tiny programs now. You need a postgraduate level seven. In other words, you need to be at a degree. Yeah. The only other way you're going to get on is social work. If you've got a social work degree, a teacher's degree, a probation degree, or you fit into some sort of X, you know, some other sort of type of bracket in the caring professions. So you're right. Most people have had a degree or not the, or even the equivalent of a degree. Yeah. So you would probably fit into a different back, different sort of process than a lot of your colleagues. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And in your training, you might never discussed what we're training. You know, what we're talking about here. However, I bet if you had. You'd have been. Interested in this discussion from the, the point of a week, if you were talking about it now. Yeah. Absolutely. But in a strange way, I think I, I don't know how I would have felt. Being in that group. After the conversation, if that makes sense. Yeah, because. Yes, I can understand that. Because you might have felt you didn't belong. Absolutely. 100% without a doubt. I would have thought that I shouldn't be here. Yeah. And. As I said earlier on, does all this matter? I think it does matter. You see, I think matters as a conversation. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. And I do think. We often pick our therapist according to the script. Of our history. And the script of our history will be. Largely played out by the people brought us up. How. How does the I'm okay?  I don't know. It's behind the question. What's behind the question? Just what I was saying earlier on where I don't think I would have felt like I belonged in the training. And.  All that sort of stuff. I would put them way above me. As in status in that room and it certainly wouldn't be. I'm okay. You're okay from my point of view. I don't expect to stay there. No. No, that's what I've just said. But it's a big thing for me in the therapy room that it is, I'm okay. You're okay. And we're both on a level in. In that room. Yeah. So I think most people come to therapy. Jet their own scripts onto the therapist. Now. It's. You know, we've had a podcast once before about is therapy a middle class profession. Yes. Yeah. I've been talking about it and I think it is. Yeah. Lots of reasons. And one of them, of course, is the recruitment of psychotherapists. I usually people come from middle class professions. Probably been to university. Or have that type of education. And I suspect they do have certain expectations, objections about therapy. Yeah. I think I'm okay. Well, it's interesting because if we go to where your clients that come into you, they probably have middle class backgrounds. I just suspect do they? Or don't they? I don't know. As you were talking, then I was just thinking, rather than looking at it from my point of view, and how I would feel going into a room with somebody, what class are the majority of my clients that come to see me? And they're a mix, to be honest. I see somebody that's very educated, and they've been to university. And their job is an architect, but an affiliate architect or something, they're quite high up in what they do. And lecturers and school teachers, but then also other people that are classes the same class as me. Well, trainees, well, not just trainees, but I think a lot of people project when they're going to therapy. What they expect from a therapist in terms of what we've just talked about, having degrees, having, because it takes a long time to get trainees to cycle therapist and it's a middle class profession. So they would expect the therapist probably to come from middle class profession.  Yeah. Now, the fact that you don't, may or may not come over, people may or may not ask you that. I think that would probably be the projection. Now, it doesn't mean I'm correct, it's just... It's a really interesting topic. It's a conversation. Yeah. So how many people can afford that aren't middle class? Yeah. And afford therapy anyway? Yeah. Therapy starts off anywhere from £55, £50 upwards an hour for therapy. That's going to be £200 a month if you go once a week. How many... They're going to be well paid, well-earned people that come to therapy. So they're going to probably project onto you anyway. Yeah. That frame of reference? Yeah, it's really interesting. Because even just, you know, taking out the class system and education and all that sort of stuff. But the way that we look, I know we've had this conversation, I don't know whether you remember it, way back when I was doing my training about business cards and I always put a picture of myself on my business cards. Oh. And you instantly said that that's not something that you would recommend doing because people, you know, automatically make assumptions about you and everything. I still put my picture on my business cards now. Well, it would have been, I would have said it was my personal view. You did? Absolutely, yes. We'll put the pictures under their business cards and it may or may not work for them. I simply said I don't, simply because I think that people will see people's photographs and they will project onto them, whatever. But for me, it's really important that I know who's going to open the door at the other end. How would you know who opens the door at the end? I don't understand. Because if there's a picture on a business card, you know, if I was the client going, I would know who was going to open the door. So that's my frame of reference, that I want them to see me as familiar from the get-go, if that makes sense. Oh, right, from that sense. Does the picture do that? I don't know, it does for me. I've obviously projected all my stuff onto this conversation, Bob, yeah. I don't think it does for me. I've never thought about in the way we're talking now, perhaps I have, but anyway. No, would I want to, would, hang on, if you had a friendly picture, rather than a severe picture, would it be more likely to go to the friendly picture than the projection of the severe picture? Probably in the end. It's an interesting thought though, isn't it, Bob? It doesn't mean, but it doesn't mean in terms of what we're talking about, middle-class and stuff like that, because you can have somebody who's very friendly that's not fit into your frame of reference at all. Absolutely, yeah. Unless, of course, you're stroke-starved and you need somebody who's going to give you lots of strokes and be friendly. That's okay, by the way, it might help the working relationship deep and faster. Does all this matter? I tell you what, I still say it does all matter, because of what is needed, which is a robust working system between the therapist and the client. If the therapist, for whatever reason, doesn't fit into the frame of reference of the client, they may or may not come back. Yeah. Or the working relationship takes a lot longer to strengthen. Yeah. See, I think they're not like to come back, because if you went to a therapist that had a conversation full of long words, so and on the back of the seat on the on the wall was a degree in whatever, another degree in whatever degree in psychotherapy, it might frighten you off, you might never come back. Absolutely. So do we need to adjust to the different clients that we have then? Yes. Would it be enough? It would mean that I do believe the client would need to come back so that in the hour the therapist does enough to persuade the wrong word, but I can't think of another one, but at least to put over that they are compatible in some way. Yeah. It's really, it is a really interesting topic because, you know, if we need to adapt to meet the client, are we being authentically us? Well, I use the word compatible. Yeah. I'll still say by that, but let's go back to what I think is another really important podcast we could have, which I think we may or may not have, by the way, is does the cloud, by definition, always adapt to the therapist? And is that a bad thing anyway? That could be just another podcast we have, but I actually, if I was doing a podcast on this, I would say, well, I think clients by definition always adapt to their therapist for quite a while. I was thinking the opposite. I was thinking the therapist adapting to the clients. Well, both. Yeah. Okay. I just find it a really interesting conversation, but I think the therapist is more likely to be themselves because they probably feel they're more in a secure place within the power dynamics. Probably they might be, you know, more in touch with their adults, so they've got more chance perhaps to be there in their adult. But if they come from an integrist like a therapist I do then achievement would be very important. They may adapt in the search for achievement to get some level of connection for a therapeutic relationship. Yeah. Same as adaptation. Interesting. Yeah. But I do think clients adapt. They're much more likely to adapt. Yeah. It's a different world in the therapy room. It's such a unique experience what actually goes on. I'll tell you what, I think clients adapt much more than the therapist. I'm not saying the therapist doesn't adapt because they're searching for achievement. Yes. Yes. But it's far more likely to adapt because they're usually frightened. Yeah. In other words, they're usually moving to a place where they're going to therapy for the first time in the level of scare or apprehension and they feel probably more out of control is a place where the client will probably over adapt to compensate for all that and then the therapist's job is to help the client feel more secure in those early sessions. Yes. Yeah. An interesting podcast which I think I really would like to have would be something like this. Is there ever any reality in the therapy room? Ooh. That's a deep one, Bob. Are we just writing that down? Are we just seeing what we want the other person to be anyway? Wow. What's at the top of your head? What's the answer to that? It's a long podcast. That's an easy question to that. But I think people have to stay in therapy quite a while to work through those levels of adaptation to get to any sense of authenticity where they can actually see the therapist as a real person. Yeah. And maybe vice versa. Yeah, because I think there's a certain expectation of what you're going to be like or what therapy is going to be like. Mm-hmm. And what about the various disciplines from psychoanalysis right the way through in the humanistic tradition to client-centered counseling where quite often it's trained or drummed into the trainee or new therapist depending on their model they come from not to share anything about themselves but actually all that's left is the client's projections. Yes. Yeah. I want to say does that work? Well, in a therapy session, I don't know. It's an interesting question because you've had years and years of psychoanalysis built on that and in the client-centered world also, you know, counselors are trained not to share themselves either. Mm-hmm. There's a service where that's talked about a lot more but, you know, counselors often if they fall back on their training don't share themselves that easily. Yeah. See, I think I'm okay in the therapy room sharing if it's for the good of the client and I always check in first if I'm okay to share something that I think might help or is relevant or it is. Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I didn't connect very well with person-centered counselors. You see, you know, I think all this is really important I'm going back to the times of the podcast does it any of this matter? Well, if I I don't work as you know individually clinically anymore even though I do some good therapy sessions but if I had turned up to some of my clients in my I don't know Manchester City outfit for example and I started lying down in the client's in the actual rooms or any of these things, would that matter? Would it actually benefit the therapy? Because let's see perhaps a sense of humanity with the therapist. Oh. And I can picture you doing that at certain times Bob just to mix things up in the therapy room. I did do lying down quite often to do exactly what you thought. Maybe not on the first initial session but I can see you. You really need me well. Yeah. But I think it all does matter especially at the beginning because you need to get a sense of a working relationship going where the client has a deep enough relationship with you to stay in therapy. And to go where they need to go to. Yeah, absolutely. It's an interesting conversation to have with a client am I what you expected or something at some point to see. Yeah. Well I have had that conversation many many times and usually they say no. Yeah. Not what I expected at all. But then as time went on and I heard rumors about me or knew about me or whatever it is then I turned into the more eccentric person they had expected me to be. But stroke and I do think there's a lot in frames of reference congruence and what we're talking about here so that the client stays around long enough to have that therapeutic relationship and hopefully both of you see each other a little bit more in a real way. Yeah. Because that is what this podcast is all about is to pull back that curtain behind the therapy room and see what actually goes on in there. And I think as a therapist I want to do that with therapy anyway. Yeah. Okay. So here's another one. So if I put on a suit I've only got one. I usually had the last time I had that was my daughter's wedding probably another suit for a funeral or something like that. But if I put a suit on and a tie on and that became my sort of regular uniform for seeing therapists I would have felt so uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. Would I have been effective as a psychotherapist because I felt so uncomfortable? I think I wouldn't have been able to do therapy well. Yeah. I felt comfortable. So that's the other thing I wanted to say. I think if a therapist needs to present if we put it that way in the way that they are comfortable with. So there's a sense of realness in the process. If they attempt to dress the way they think they need to try and make the client stay, it won't work. Because they'll feel uncomfortable. Yeah. So if you feel uncomfortable. I know people by the way who did therapy suits all time. I know people, friends are very good therapists who have both ties and goodness knows what because they're fitted into their upper class backgrounds. So if a successful therapist don't get me wrong. And they felt comfortable in that. They felt very uncomfortable in corduroy, trans, casual, tie or whatever you want to say. But because they felt comfortable they're more likely to be real. And because they were more likely to be real and feel uncomfortable clients would stay with them longer. Yeah. I understand. I think that is a big thing. See, you were talking a lot then you know, comfort and being comfortable and I would use that to describe you when you were saying about wearing a suit and a tie. I would describe you as a comfy jumper. And that's how I feel when I'm with you that I could share anything. I wouldn't feel judged or whereas if somebody sat there sitting upright with a shirt and tie and a suit on. I would instantly feel like I was being judged. That's a really important thing in it. And some people who come from a different background wouldn't. Absolutely. That's what I'm saying is horses for courses. And for me I dress very casually and for some that's okay but for others I would imagine that they think I'm not taking it seriously enough. Or they could project whatever onto you. That's what you just said there. And I've known clients who have left therapy for exactly what you just said that their therapist wasn't how they expected the therapy should be. So when you say further world, what do you mean by should be?  And do I fit into that? No, but I heard you were very good. Because they've had some sort of transitions before they come in the mood. So I think it does matter. I think the most important thing I would say though is dress how you want to dress, present how you want to present where you have a level of realness and comfortability and the rest will follow. If you do it the other way around I don't think it will work well. No. What a very interesting podcast Bob. It's a discussion I didn't have much in when I trained people really and certainly not on my training but it fits into script, doesn't it? Yes. The idea of script being we enact out our histories, eject out our histories and then we follow them like a tenacious whatever. Unless we can change our scripts cure isn't likely to happen really. Yeah. So it does follow script theory. I didn't ever train this way in this discussion in the weekend on script but now I wish I had. Yeah. It's a really interesting, again Bob it's one of your, the topics that you come up with it's a really good topic. And the next topic I feel is on a par with this one which is are some feelings acceptable than others in the therapy room. Very interesting. Yeah. So until next time Bob. Bye bye. Speak soon. You've been listening to The Therapy Show behind closed doors podcast. We hope you enjoyed the show. Don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review. We'll be back next week with another episode.


We went with you on Friday through the halls of Congress and they would say things about what is like in Cuba and you would look at them and say, have you been to Cuba? It's nothing like that. And it turns out that some of these high-level staff people and key offices that do make Cuba policy have never been there and lives really put them in their place. There is a Cuba that exists in the heads of these policymakers. And the other hand, that's the real Cuba that I live since I was born. So it's really difficult to have a real conversation about U.S. policy towards Cuba because they can't get it because, number one, they have never been there. Number two, they don't speak the language. Number three, they have this so strong idea in their heads about what is Cuban, what is not.


The report basically indicates that given the fact that there are climate change induced catastrophes in Yemen which may lead to fresh kind of conflicts. In fact, the report says there has already been a kind of record in Yemen where due to the water scarcity due to the struggles over the fertile land has led to thousands of people being killed in the past. So it means that if these climate catastrophes are not controlled or there are not effective measures taken to deal with them, this will lead to fresh set of conflicts in the country. The husband progress in the larger region towards ending the 9-year-old Saudi-led war However, a fact sheet jointly prepared by CIPRI, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute and the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs notes that to achieve a meaningful peace, Yemen will also need to deal with the catastrophic impact of climate change along with the repercussions of the war and conflict. For this, the country requires increased international support. The primary concern of the report is the prospect of peace in Yemen. As it is well known that due to the negotiations in recent days, there is a greater prospect of peace in the country. It is expected that the Yemen-Saudi-led war in Yemen will end soon but will that lead to peace? The war in Yemen, which started after the invasion of the Saudi-led international coalition in 2015, has created the world's worst humanitarian crisis, according to the United Nations. Yemen has over 4.5 million internally displaced people and over 80% of its total population of over 34 million is facing some level of food insecurity. According to the UN, more than 21.6 million Yemenis will be dependent on some kind of humanitarian aid in 2023. The war in the blockade has killed hundreds of thousands of Yemenis and destroyed basic civilian infrastructure such as water supply, health systems, schools and other basic governance systems in the Arab world's poorest country. In one example, the fact sheet states that Yemen was making slow and steady progress in the human development index between 1990 and 2015. This progress has not only stopped but has been reversed since the war. Climate change and environmental degradation are adding to the problems. According to the fact sheet, the mean annual temperature in Yemen is expected to increase by 1.2 to 3.3 degrees Celsius by 2060, leading to large-scale changes in the country's climate with irregular patterns of rain. The report notes that though the causal relationship between climate change and conflict is not linear or predetermined, there are multiple pathways through which climate change interacts with political, social and environmental stresses to compound existing vulnerabilities and tensions. It talks about how Yemen is already one of the worst affected countries in the world in terms of water scarcity, in terms of fertile land and because of this geographical location and because of the climate change, it has already been impacted by repeated droughts and floods. So, the rain is erratic and the greater possibilities of drought in the country. And this will basically in a country which is more than 34 million people strong and lack of other employment opportunities, predominantly agriculture being the source of employment that can create further struggles, conflict within the groups in Yemen over the land, scarce land and water resources. Apart from that, the report also indicates that the climate-led catastrophes, rain, droughts, etc., and the competition over resources which it creates can have and is already having very negative impact on vulnerable groups like women, girl, child and the small set of refugees which are there in Yemen which came from Ethiopia and other African countries due to conflicts there. They will have a negative impact because the Yemenis themselves are not able to deal with their own livelihood issues, their own economic issues, so that can impact them. The climate catastrophe in 2022 affected over 510,000 people directly and intensified the humanitarian crisis which led to a 93 percent increase in displacement. Internally displaced Yemenis are particularly vulnerable to extreme weather and natural hazards which can cause secondary displacement. For instance, in 2020, over 230,000 people had to be resettled due to their camps being flooded. At the end of it, the report also talks about the greater need of addressing the climate-related issues in Yemen and therefore it appeals to the global community and particularly to the UN to basically help the Yemenis to deal with the climate situation and that can not be addressed, of course, by the Yemenis themselves given the fact that it is one of the poorest countries in the world has been impacted by the conflict and war for longer period and therefore does not have the expertise, does not have the resources to deal with the climate crisis which is of course created by not by the Yemenis, it is created by the global larger world and therefore it needs the collective effort of the world community to deal with the climate crisis in Yemen.


The following is a presentation of TFNN, the Tiger Technician Hour with your host, Basil Chapman. Call now. Call free at 1-877-927-6648. Good morning everyone. Basil Chapman here on this Tuesday, this September the 12th. Download down 77 to 34,586. Now Cisco is part of that problem right here. Cisco is down, oh, Cisco is not down, Cisco is unchanged right here at 5670, I'm updating, I've made crazy things with Cisco, it was down 15 or 13 at some point and now it's kind of unchanged. Oh, anyway, whatever it is, a very fascinating market, let me just go through the numbers because there's a great deal to discuss, but there's no rush to discuss it. Why? Because the market is in a downtrend of the daily, the weekly game we all see on Friday where it stands, but at this particular point I'm hearing a lot of people keep saying this market is ready for an explosive move to the upside and then there are some that say, uh-oh, we're going down for months. I'm kind of in the camp that says I'm going one step at a time, I always like to do that because that's the thing that keeps us in the trade and keeps us in the trend and with that said, let me just show you what I'm talking about. Look, the Dow had a high, all-time high of 35,679 August 1st just for disclosure purposes, that's exactly the day we went short, we still short and it only went down to 34,029, didn't even take out the low of July the 10th which was at 33,705, went to 34,029, ran up, the MACD was flat, a flat MACD, you got to keep the last notation of the trend in place and that just says it's in a sell mode so it says you can keep it in that sell mode until the nine period moving average, that's the nine differential of the MACD really expands, the stochastic was just in the 50%, it's just really flat, the on-balance volume, blue line was good but that 914, let's just have a look at it here, the 914 and the Dow, I'll go to the Dow, INDU there it is, has gone pink and that pink just like the green stage for quite a while, the pink can stay for a while, so that pink is the nine period exponential moving average under the 14 period moving average and it's just telling me that so far the daily downtrend remains intact, but wait a minute, if you go to the weekly analysis it'll cause me a problem with the notation that I've got here but that doesn't matter, if I go to the weekly look what happens, that weekly is still very positive, let me just put this back out I don't want to use this and I'm going to say if I go to the S&P, S&P weekly look how strong it is still, so I'm in the camp that really says there's a consolidation that's been going on for almost two months, basically it is involving the daily charts and because there's a rotational correction going on it means that there are enough stocks to hold the market in this kind of steady sideways action as various indices or stocks within each group take a breather and the ones that were slowing down and coming to halt on the downside have at least a rebound potential, I mean I can even put Disney in that camp, Disney is up to day $1.31, you can see this pink nine period moving average in the weekly is still very negative, price is trying to rally very nicely and if you go to the daily chart right here the price has moved up very strongly from, I mean it was just over 80, let me give you the exact three, 79, 73, so this is exactly four points, not bad, 2%, but wait what's going on here, that pink nine period moving average hasn't crossed positive even over here when you have that big move this is going into the August timeframe, that pink then deflected low until it moved positive for a couple of days and then turned negative, so I like to look at this as possibly my indicator of last resort and in this particular instance let's go back to our charts, the QQQ daily, price is moving lower, it's already struggling to maintain the upward move into the 380s to 376 and the nine period moving average is still very nicely over the 14 and the trajectory for both of them is up and in the weekly chart you'll see that this is even more striking, look how big, look at the distance, look how wide the aperture is between the green and the black, so it says for this to really turn down and what I'm really looking at here is that we've used up time, remember I like to look at the market as both time and price, sometimes you get a consolidation in time, sometimes it's in price, sometimes it's time and price and sometimes you get a whopper of a move and price moved dramatically like it did over here and until it turned pink there was, there had to be a big price movement, right, so in this particular instance going to the weekly chart of the QQQ, the IWM monthly chart, a weekly chart you can see getting closer and closer turning down hasn't crossed negative yet but the daily chart look at this, pink and a deflected lower, so that's one of the weakest of the indices, let me just do the same thing, let's go to Toll Brothers because I had a question about Toll and I said it's remarkable in this environment my Toll Brothers should be holding so well, even today it's up 44 cents at 82.45 and the 9 is over the 14, this is a daily chart, if you look at the HGX this is the Philadelphia Housing Sector Index, it's pink and it's been that way for a little while and all the rallies haven't really helped it, it's still pink and that says that overall there is some deterioration in the daily chart, look at the weekly chart, yeah, look at the week, nothing, it's like what, who, where, I mean who, us, down, no, we're holding beautifully, so I wanted to put that into perspective, let's look at the TLT, look at that, price and trajectory of the 914 and price are all in the same downward direction, it's making the arch formation, we'll see how it's going to test this left side low of 91, what was that 90, this last one was 92, 26 way back, you know, last year it was lower than that, okay, so in that context what we're looking at is trying to put this whole package together, this is a rather large and rather spread out in sectors, consolidation mostly concerning daily charts, all right, so with that we've got down down 17, 34,000, 59, let's go through this in closely now, the dollar holding up 28 ticks at 104.82, I think there's a chance we make one new high and then I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes the real test of does the dollar continue higher, look at the MACD is good at 89%, the stochastic, so MACD is good, stochastic is at 89%, I don't have unbalanced volume because this is an index, but if you had to go to the UUP, which will be a long, it did the one-to-one with the forwarding, X expanded, Chapman wave, one-to-one expansion in the same degree, the angle and then a sorry to slow down, the actual price would be around about 29, 36, the height three days ago was 29, 34, within two pennies with egg D in the weekly chart, but all of the technicals are pretty good, I'll be back down, down 71, as if he's out there. 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Hi folks, so we're looking at a question of the day here. John wants to appreciate the VFF. I can see it going to 160s and check out HE for a play. So I'm looking at this and I always look at the chart and I don't even look at numbers or anything. I just look at the chart. I start doing my chapter of notation. I check to see if I'm correct in terms of daily, weekly, monthly, then I might look at the price. And then I look at the name and it says village farms.  And they all do different things. And I'm looking at this and I say, oh, my goodness, if I was looking at this just as a chart, then I would look at this and say, oh, yeah, this looks like a biotech. I don't know why it's called village farms. Maybe they maybe they have cultures of rats or something like that. And then I look at it closer. And I see that it once hit 20 and it's now down in the pink sheet area. It's a point just the other day, two, three weeks ago, it was down at 50 cents, not only that, it has all those zeros. When you see four zeros after the dot, you know, those like pink sheets is the one that you have to almost book a book an appointment to buy it because it doesn't have that much volume. Or there's something really wrong with it. Or they didn't pass muster. And therefore they they have to prove a whole bunch of things to be able to get to just your number plus two zeros, which is the usual thing. This is a four zeros. Then I then I say to myself, wait, the village farm is what is that? Let me see. Can I I didn't read this correctly because it's on this gray background that Trace Station has for their charts. And it says international. Now I'm saying to myself, OK, it's it's not a biotech because it has to do something with farms. It went almost to the 200 period moving average yesterday over a dollar 18. Let's pull back a little bit today. And then I'm looking to say, oh, it's training at a dollar point. Oh, five one. Oh, I look at the weekly chart. It's got a very quick peak a one bar rest. Leg B goes to peak B in one bar has a one bar rest. You remember my rule of one three six. And then what does it do in one bar? It goes to leg C. I'm looking and say, what is this? Then I read it and I say, wait, village farms. And then they call themselves international. I mean, really, that's like saying it's a really big little something or other, right? Just is an anachronism there. So Peaky Peaky in the Denses, VFF has great tomatoes. Well, what it says is village farms international is recreational cannabis, health and wellness spaces. Everything now makes sense. Yeah, it does look like a biotech, because biotech has been under tremendous pressure for quite some time. We spoke about MJ yesterday, which is the cannabis ETF, Alternate Harvest ETF. We once had an absolutely fantastic gain in this, but not for a long time. Have you even touched it? And it goes from 2.84 on the 24th of August. And today's high is 4.70, a two dollar gain. And what is that about? It's about 80 percent or something like that. Well, that makes sense, because as I said yesterday, now I think they kind of in play, making a base, a higher base. Doesn't mean to say they're going to sort from here, because the whole thing about the whole cannabis sector is that there's always fantastic news that could be, could be, could be, and then it never is. So let's go back to what was the VFF, VFF, there it is. So I don't think it was a question. I think it was more a statement. Yes, I think this is in play. The nine is over the 14. The price is way over the nine. The magnate's good. Stochastic is very weak at 54 percent on balance. We're in slightly overboard. So it's in play only as a trade, as a core position. I would say on the next big drop towards the 0.72 to 0.68 area. Give me a yellow and we're looking at it together, because that might mean if it holds there, you're starting to make this whole base of support for months. A key cushion, and that's what you really need. And then you can start looking at and say, well, if it holds under these conditions, having pulled back, but not taking out the low, a low of 0.50 something or other, it's in play as a position play rather than just a trade. So as it stands right now, I don't know if this has a history of making peak Ds. I know it has a history of making peak A and a B failure and making a low, low and the dreaded H pattern. This is the first time he's actually been followed through to the upside after a long hiatus in the weekly and the daily charts. One, two, three, five, seven, eight, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine. About 15 or 16 bars before it made leg B. And then one, two, three, four, five, six bars before it made leg C. So it's getting shorter and shorter. It's in play. But I'm not going to recommend a dollar or three stock in this particular area to say, other than as a very quick trade, because there is a good chance that that we got so close to the 200 period moving average of 1.18 that there's a chance we're going to make a dive for a spike for it. It's a 103. And I would say if it closes today or the next or the Wednesday under 0.97, I don't know if it's going to do it in a quick move, it'll take longer. But in the next two sessions, it should try for the 1.18 area. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. Next question I had is IONQ. I put that in my newsletter. We did not, we did not have a trade in it. What does it say? Oh, there's that leg C. Oh, and today it was such a close call that I was going to use this because it had a really good two sessions here to go to that leg C, to break above that P.E. I had drawn a look. I drew a left side, right side, price time. Actually, look at this. This is IONQ Quantum Computers. Let me see. It's up $1.44 today, 2,112. It's up 7%. And the irony of the whole thing is I probably would have guarded for subscribers because it closed yesterday at 19.77 and I'm knowing the way I usually put these things in if it was a single digit stock. I might have had to say buy it no more than two cents higher than yesterday's high. And then I would have had a whole bunch of trading things to do. But I probably would have said on a dip and usually I go for the round and it closed at, what did I say? It closed at 19.68. And I'm probably I'm sure I would have said something below 1932 and it went to 1920 and here it is at 2093 in Leg C. It's looking very good. Is it still something that you can buy? Well, for me, it's just kind of gotten away for the safety factor of the risk to reward. And in this market, anything that's moving up like this is looks to me like it. For instance, we have a couple of stocks that are doing really well today because they are they have been almost nothing to do with the trend of the market at this particular point. They're independent. That's what I'm trying to do under the radar stocks that act nicely when the markets acting purely and when the market has a big move up, they can just do their own thing. They can either follow or they can pull back, but they in their own trajectory. And at this particular point, that I think is really important because look now that dollars down 91 as it beats down 18. Look at that big acceleration. So I needed to show this because I was asked about it. This is this is my chart of the E-mini. Unfortunately, I just wasn't able to actually put any trades on. But look what I did. I drew an X on this bar as a target of 45, 95, 60. 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How does it know that angle? That's something different. But look at this, a double top in a monthly chart. Not an all-time high, I believe, because maybe it is an all-time high. Let me just open this up, give it a good squeeze. I don't think I can go, yeah, do I go back that far in this particular chart? Yep, I do. Back in 2000, all-time high. What am I talking about? Remember, Oracle was the high right there. It was August, I think. Yep, August of 2000, it did 4550. That's before a split. So 4550. And yet it is trading at 110, more than double that. 20 years, 20, what, three years later. All right, well, forget that, about the all-time high. I did remember that. Some of them have, like Microsoft is way above that 2000 high. So Oracle, down sharply. So it wasn't a down stock. So the Dow is actually pulling back because it's a broader move to the downside. Now let me just do this here because let me do this before I forget. FXI, that's the large-cap China ETF, up 8 cents at 2731. But in that lower register, that lower range, having been repelled with the 200-period moving average, I think this is going to have a second arch formation, a smaller one, and then even a smaller one than that. So I just say be careful because if a source of trade under 2550, any time in September, that's going to be a big problem. In the meantime, it's just stuck in a sideways range. The other one was, I wrote it down somewhere, I think I did. If I remember this correctly, it was in the electric XBF, Designs, Develops, Manufacturers, Smart EVs. It's the same kind of pattern, but a much better weekly chart, a way fantastic weekly, monthly chart needs a lot, needs a lot to already improve. But this data says yes, stuck in a range of 18 cents at 1866 XPEVs, the symbol, speng, ink, I'm not sure how to pronounce it. And all I can hear is, all I can say is that it is holding OK, but I think it's more in a trading range. So better than renewing it, I see it OK. I'm not sure what that all refers to over there. So he has another question that I had. Could I look at, so I'll do this now. I think I did it earlier on, but I'll do it again. HGX, this is the Philadelphia Housing Sector Index. Same pattern, we've seen this pattern over and over, large arch formation, I could dread it H, but large with the potential for a chapter 40x breakout to the upside, but more likely doing a slow roll over, the 90s still fantastic in the weekly chart of the HGX index. The daily says holding well, but not breaking yet, not breaking down. Holding well is another thing. It's another way of saying going sideways. So I don't see anything very much there. So the question came in with SMHs. SMHs are actually running a little bit here. They're up two cents at one fifty point fifty one, had a Chathamwae Roman channel yesterday for subscribers. I didn't make a big deal about it. I didn't mention it. But if it traded for 90 minutes below this wick, 149.70, it did go below it went to 149.10. Now it's nicely above it. But if it closed, if it closed on a one hour candle under that 149.50 level, there's a real good chance we would have tested yesterday's low. At this particular point, I said all we're watching now is does the nine period moving average cross negative on the SMHs today because that is going to be very important regardless of any of the news. I mean, we've got Wednesday, you've got news, economic news, you've got Thursday, you've got Friday. It doesn't matter. It says, let me go to the major chart that we're looking at here. It says in my work, indicator of most of the time indicator of last resort to confirm moves, SMH weekly, nothing to see here. It looks fabulous. But here's the daily look, little pink sign, but the day's young. It could still have a rally and go to 150.90 and all of a sudden that S disappears like that L held. That's for long. And this is short just to indicated not your position will be our short SMHs from two points of the all time high. So all I'm looking at here is this is going to be a clue. You remember, I talk about this all the time just to remind some of you. My belief is that for decades, not years, but decades where the semiconductors go, generally the market is going to either follow or sometimes the market will lead in this. And lately we've seen the market kind of lead with the SMH is lagging. And then all of a sudden, in this case, 159.42 was the high in the semiconductor, the Venex semiconductor ETF back in November of 2021 plunges to 83. I would call that almost 50% decline. And it comes rolling back and makes a new all time hide 161 17. I don't want to fight this indicator because it is chips on just about everything. Well, maybe not in cookies, can those chocolate chip cookies or something a little bit different. But other than that, anything that moves will have a chip. And as far as I'm concerned, this is the oil of the 21st century. So it's telling us an incredible story. And we have a mix between strong oil, and yet jets, the US Airlines ETF, jets down the lows had a fabulous running up into the 22s and now it's in the 18s. Made a just look at this. This is a pattern we look at all the time. I didn't draw it in here. I might have a maybe I drew it and lost it because I've drawn it in so many. But look at this. So it says, in this particular pattern, I usually go before the base, I go to the key support level. That's holding and moving average. So I kind of go to this level right here. And I go to the midpoint. If I can, the plumb line high. That's this plumb line right here. Whoops. Now that's the wrong plumb line. Plumb line means the exact number of bars to the left, thinking it could make an exact number of bars to the right. 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So I'll do a couple of things right here. See on the daily chart this is age pattern. These age patterns fail if they take out the left side low and and hold there for two out of three bars. There's a real good chance you can get a one to one of the arch down to the bottom. We've seen that before. I posted in the den that the 4517 level this morning in the first 90 minutes what we've done an hour in 10 minutes. First 90 minutes will be the key support to hold. I drew this in. I showed this chart with a chat wave. This is called inside wedge target support line pink on the way dash pink on the way down dash green on the way up. And I drew that in and it got very close to the 4519 low that was made yesterday. 10 past 11 Eastern time. And then in the chat we've always looking for a D or an E to start to see whether or not we were about to have a big tumble to the downside. There's your D the first one back at three o'clock yesterday afternoon. This is one is the last night. Was that today? I know it was. Gee, what a long day we've had already. Yeah, there was an 11 o'clock last night. Peek in and makes a cup formation retested with the peak A, B, C, D E again under the previous high comes back down. That's where I started to draw this in. As I was waking up this morning and looking at this peak C1, C2, C3 like a deed failed there. And look at this 200 period moving average. It kept holding, holding, holding and then boom, we went below it. It became a repellent zone. We popped up and then we pulled back. So I'd say that for the first 90 minutes that 45, 17 level must hold is really important. And now I expand this and show you a look. So this very often at 8 30 or 9 o'clock after that first initial economic report or whatever it is, it could even be the 10 o'clock news, whatever you get the spike up. And that's where you can get it. What I call a single leg failure pattern goes straight up and then straight down and then takes out the left side low. And now that about 10, 20 in the morning, that's where you get that the second part of the day, sometimes even the third, but basically I'd like to get it as a second part of the day. The first part is really very early from five or six thirty in the morning. That's kind of where you can get some really good rally. Sometimes that's the low of the whole day that you get a click to click session or it's the high of the day. So in this particular instance, we've had a lot of choppiness, low highs, low lows. Eventually we were forming this kind of base, had this arch formation. We've got two bars in which to close above the forty five nineteen level. We're at forty five twenty two. So this is the second bar. The last bar closed just above at forty five twenty. This is trying to. So that is an A minus right there because it took out the left side low. So it's a failure pattern. Now we have on the way down a trough a lower case of the way down. And this is a continuation of a B E slash C F slash D. And this could be an E or a G. So this is for those of you to have a way of analysis. You know exactly what I'm talking about. But more importantly, if this takes out the forty five if it goes to forty five twenty three in this bar, right? Preferably this bar right now is sorts of gray A. Now you're starting the second part of the day and you can see that every every bout of buying has been met with selling and every bout of selling, although it's gone to lower lows and lower highs as it has met with some buying. And that just says to me that speaks to what I've been talking about that the daily charts are in cell modes in all the key stocks and key indexes. But those weekly charts are still showing buying strength. So when you talk about a crash or a smash or whatever you're talking about, you have to wait for the nine fourteen to close down in the weekly charts to even consider that you've got a cell signal, let alone a cell mode. OK, with that said, let's just to go through our normal, the preamble, repeat. And let me just show you. So Jets made this inversion. This is like a pyramid formation. So if I was taking price and time, but now it's using up more time than price as it's trying to find some kind of a base in the eighteen area. And this is with crude oil up a dollar seventy nine, the continuous contract right now breaking out. There's this inverted cup. This is what we call about the show you the chart right now. This is if I can move that away, I'll get it. There it is. This is. So the age pattern we were talking about is when you come down sharp, you have a rally. Hold the left side low or just take it out for one same bar you close above it. Then you can have another arch formation, probably a smaller one going from an H to an M. This is the reverse Y green because when you take out that left side high, you can go a lot high with the same same context, same data and information that you would use on the H. You'd use of the Y reverse Y. Look, as you as your age pattern, a reverse Y breaks out, goes even higher. Another one breaks out, goes even higher. I drew this in as the last one, a big one. And it took out this left side. Now this is a Chapman wave, a cup and ladle. And it says Kudall, if this is correct and the daily is a new leg B, because you can never get a higher letter than a G because you have to start, you never get an H. You have to start over again or see where there's an alternate count. If this is B, Kudall for the next, I'd say next seven or eight sessions should be going even higher. Right, because it's got that reverse Y pattern. So that tells me that Jets is this pyramid pattern, probably going to have to go to lower lows. So the question came in, where was it on this side of that side? Oh, yes. How do you feel about the UUU? That's a uranium company and UEC now. UEC. So UUUUU. This is the uranium energy fuels Inc uranium company. Yes, this reverse Y pattern. And this should be F F slash B almost looks like Kudall. Look at that F slash B alternate count only because the nine is so strong. The MacD is so strong. Stochastic is at 83. Unbalanced volume is still weak. We haven't even got overbought yet an unbalanced volume. So yes, I like it. Remember, I said I like them both. My preference was the one that we have for subscribers to opening call. In fact, today we took a I think I don't know what I can't remember. It's about a 40 43 percent gain in just a tad. Another little bit off just part of money management. But that's the one I like the best. But I see UEC. You should follow UEC. Yes, UEC. Look at the move up. There's a chapter before the exclamation of a small one. We broke to the upside. I showed this in my video for subscribers, my hour long video on Saturday. And leg C. This is a chapter with cup and ladle pattern to peak D. And that says in this particular pattern, if you take out the left side high, the lip on the left in a leg C and do it strongly, there's a real good chance you're still going to go to a D and now you've got instead of a cup and handle, which is a really unfavorable pattern. I miss you get the exact low, but you still have to expect that if it goes high, you could come back and test that low. This means you've spiraled right of the cup and ladle this spiraled out of this cup formation. And I've done the left side right side price time match and it's taken it out a week later. Did it, but he did it. And this says it should go to D and a week later. So this is actually my preference right now. I think it might be getting if it should start.  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I might even have to take a moment's time at some point to do some trading in between. We'll see what happens. So we've taken and we've hit that 45-17 level trying to rally off it now. Wow. So this doesn't become a G because there's no H. So that becomes a G slash B and a C. This is now a C on the way down in the 10-minute chart. So I'll discuss all of this when we get back. So in the den or in Tiger YouTube, if you've got any questions, post them and I'll deal with them in this next hour. There are a lot of things that I personally also want to look at. I might as well just do it as a public forum. And there's your lower case, H that goes to a lower case, M right here, as we're speaking. I love when the demonstrations that we are doing are live and you can see what happens. 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So our first video we want to talk about soaps. So for me, I haven't tried a lot I've done some I did shampoo and conditioner for a while Actually, I didn't use beard product for a long time and Jansen kind of reprimanded me multiple times. I did The thing about it is a lot of soaps out there aren't actually soaps. There's a there's a key difference Shampoo is a detergent now detergent strip your hair of all its natural oils. They strip everything away from your hair They're really caustic and toxic to your hair now. What's great about um, what's been my favorite? I don't know about you. What my favorite has been grandpa's pine tar soap now. This is an actual soap It's made from natural pine tar. They actually take The roots out of pine trees and put them in a big kiln and they burn it and it creates this thick dark Kind of sappy liquid. It smells like a campfire. I mean the thing smells incredible, right? I think you made that up. No doubt quite on the box. Did you read it on the box? The kiln so what they do is they take a big tree They compress it. They compress it. They pull out all of the There's gonna be a link in the description to the video that I watch that actually shows you the process of making your own pine tar But you don't have to do that. This soap is great.  I want to start a campfire right now in the bathroom Anyway, but as you use it more actually the smell dissipates It's it's it's when you first start it the smell is like it is really overpowering but Like this thing lathers like none other oh like I'm a Just a little bit throw it on there, and it's just and it lasts forever That's that's one of the main so going back to it with with the lather This is all natural and because it's a soap it actually has natural oils in it which help your Beard maintain the healthy oils that keep beards looking great So that's why this is always going to be on my shelf and in my shower for Keeping a beard great and what's great about this too is you can actually use this every day now It's a debate when you grow a beard should I wash my beard every day? I think that's a personal decision. I've tried, you know only washing once a week. I've also tried doing it every day With this hope I haven't it hasn't caused a problem. I don't know cuz like When my beard was shorter, yeah I I would like maybe once a week, but it like when I wake up my mustache is just like all over the place It feels like gross like there's drool in it. It's like nasty, right? So I like to wash it every day, and I haven't noticed as long as you're using some of the other products that we're gonna talk about in other videos It really doesn't make a difference in my opinion I think that's a really good point you bring up is as long as you're using like soaps that are good for your beard and then helping your beard Like receive the oils and moisturizers it needs to keep it strong cuz this is also we're talking about being brittle We ever saw seeing some guy with like a beard that had so much potential, but it just looks so brittle Oh, you mean minus six months ago or yeah, but I wasn't using mine two months ago so which just happens because It happens, you know hair is hair so especially like living in this area so so in Utah Super dry, and so I wasn't using any products, and I remember I'm like my beard is so rough It just hurts and Jansen was like, why don't you just use product? What's wrong with you? And I was like well I it felt like death when I touched it so I actually started using product and he made some suggestions and I tried out a few others and It took a while and and I would highly recommend using products right away with short beards now Now the other thing that I always consider is price, right? Like that's that's that's one of the big things and this is why I love about this so six dollars, right price lineup I mean you can find it for four to six dollars actually like Natural health food store has this online. It's gonna be close to seven like Mike is saying. Oh, yeah I add on Amazon. We'll have links down below where you can buy on Amazon stuff like that but in terms of the quality of the product it's Great great great. Let us know what you guys think about Any of these hopes if you found any better ones or ones that you really like please let us know We'd like to hear about that. Absolutely. Hey, thanks for watching guys. Be sure to subscribe We've got lots more reviews videos coming So check it out. Cool save the beard save the beard save it


Mae rhoi i mi llawer yn ffawr, a fawr gilydd i chi yw Hijab yn eu cysylltu. A oedd yn ymdau, os yw'n gwneud o'n ddylch chi'n gweithio'r ffasgwyd hijab. Efallai ddod yn gweithio'n gwybod bod yn ymddangos i gyd yn ddau'r gweithio'n gweithio'r ffasgwyd. Rwy'n gweithio i'n gweithio'r ysbryd, mae'r rhai'r mwyaf, mae'r rhai yw ysbryd. Alaykum Salaam. Alhamdulillah. Thank you. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. So, basically, with our topic of World Hijab Day, what do you personally think about it? Do you think it's a good way of expressing and explaining the hijab to non-Muslims? I think it's an amazing initiative. I think not only the actual day itself but how it came about. There's a huge lesson to be learnt from that. I don't know if your viewers know the background, but can I just go into the background a little bit? Of course, yes. So, there was a girl called Nazma Khan, I think her name was. She came to America to the West at the age of 11, not knowing very much English, not knowing very much about the Western culture and so forth. She says that she felt very alone. She was very much picked on. She wore the hijab and people didn't understand it. They didn't obviously try to understand it.  She had a lot of negative experiences from wearing the hijab. What I think is amazing from it is that nowhere in her story does she talk about taking it off. Or letting the bullies win. She goes on to say that when she left school, she did really well in school and high school and so forth. She started some sort of internet forum for hijabies on how to wear fashionable hijabi clothes and so forth. She got a lot of emails talking about other people who had negative experiences in wearing hijab in different parts of the world, not only in the West, but in different parts of the world. She thought to herself, there must be something that I can do. I think that's amazing, not to be the victim, but to stand up and say, there must be something I can do. She came up with this idea of World Hijab Day. Her thinking was, if people can wear the hijab for one day and just step into my shoes, then one, it will make them realise what I go through on a daily basis. Two, it opens up conversations. A lot of bullying, a lot of intolerance happens because of lack of understanding, because something is so different to what you know and what you're comfortable with. So, what she was doing is trying to normalise the hijab. I think it's beautiful. I think there are so many lessons we can learn from the sister in how to stand up for myself, how to not be a victim, how to do something that will not only help others who are in the same situation. Obviously, the initiative is amazing because it's getting Muslims who don't normally wear the hijab to try it for a day, non-Muslims who've never worn the hijab to try it for a day, whether they're Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Atheists, whatever religion or no religion, it doesn't matter. It's just put it on for a day and just live the way I live for a day and just experience it, and then let's talk. That's incredible. I didn't know how that was set up. Subhan Allah. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. It's amazing the fact that it's showing non-Muslims that we're not that much different. Just because we wear a scarf on our head and you rather wear it around your neck, it doesn't make us that much different. When you do step into our shoes, you can understand why we're protective over it and why also we deserve to be looked out for and protected by fellow men and women in society. I suppose though one thing with World Hijab Day is you might have some people turn around and say but we should be doing more than just having a dedicated day where we talk about the hijab. Can you sympathise with that point of view? Yes, I think as hijabis I think we should constantly be doing more. I think we should open ourselves up to inviting conversations about my hijab, about my religion, about who I am and why I choose to be who I am. Also it's not just about conversation starters but it's about my achlach. Again I think it's important to realise that when I put on the hijab I'm a symbol of what Islam is. People look at me and decide this is what Islam teaches. Now if I'm not going to be a very good ambassador for Islam then people turn away from Islam because of me then I'm going to be held accountable for that.  Understanding that the hijab actually makes you want to be a better person, makes you want to be a better human being, a better slave of Allah, a better Muslim. I remember my children used to actually tell me that, my daughter once told me that wearing the hijab actually is so amazing because it just constantly reminds her of Allah. There are certain things that she would never think of doing because she wears the hijab and therefore she said to her brother once I remember she said it's so much easier for me to stay away from certain sins because of my hijab and I'm so lucky that God's given me that. It's such a beautiful way of looking at it. It is a really lovely way of thinking about it. I know it myself though I've been tempted to go in places which aren't appropriate for a Muslim to go into. The thing that has stopped me is just feeling that scarf on my head and just like no, I've been given this responsibility by Allah SWT to be an ambassador and flag bearer of Islam. It's really important. I keep saying when people look at me they're not going to look at, oh Masma did this, oh Masma didn't do this, it's like oh a hijabi did this, a Muslim woman did this, a Muslim woman didn't do that. So it's really important that we stand up for what is right and stand against what's wrong and ensure that we're actually showing what Islam is about and actually living Islam rather than just superficially just wearing the clothes of Islam. Yeah, exactly. I mean how many sisters they wear the hijab and their hijab is perfect but unfortunately inwardly their character is just not good. They're being unjust and unfair to people. Now of course with the growing popularity of World Hijab Day unfortunately there has been a sort of response to that with the idea of no hijab day and it's, correct me if I'm wrong, I think it was the idea of like an ex-Muslim woman Yeah, who wants to encourage sisters to stop wearing the hijab and to be free and liberated as such and the thing that interested me with this in particular was the fact that there were some hijabi sisters who love wearing the hijab and wear it every single day even they were taking off their scarves and posting selfies online in solidarity with these sisters that had done that and we laugh about it but it's incredibly saddening definitely. I mean how do we respond to such an attack? Again I think it's lack of understanding and you feel very sad for these people especially for the sister who's initiated it. Obviously her experience of the way that she wore the hijab if she ever did was not the correct way. I don't think she ever understood what hijab was and I think it's funny because it's like Nazmar Khan started World Hijab Day on the 1st of February officially making that World Hijab Day and you have 140 countries who have signed up for it and it's happening all over the world. It's amazing and I think whenever you have something amazing happening there will always be someone who wants to put the spanner in the works and try to stop that amazing thing and it's just a matter of I know what it feels like not to wear hijab. I don't wear hijab in my house. I don't wear hijab when I'm with women so it's not something that I don't know what it feels like. The idea of World Hijab Day is so that I can empathize what it feels like to wear hijab which I would not normally as a non-Muslim or as a Muslim. A lot of the times for example a Muslim who doesn't wear hijab may put it on for that one day and think hang on a minute this isn't that difficult. I made it bigger in my head than it really is maybe I can do this and they'll give her that push to actually start wearing all the time. For non-Muslims it may actually get them to question what it is about the hijab, make them feel a little bit of what we feel, that confidence that we feel, that closeness to Allah that we feel. Even if they don't feel that it's just sort of going about in your day to day life wearing something that is different and maybe getting a few stairs and realizing hang on a minute why are people staring at me? Why do they have to look at me just because I'm dressed a little bit different and just changing that mentality and making them also realize that they're still the same person although they're dressed differently. I think again not so much now but even now you still have it but not so much before when I used to go out and be introduced automatically the minutes some people see you in hijab they automatically think that you're a little bit slow or you're not educated or you don't know how to speak the language and because I've studied dentistry and I'm a qualified dentist I can use the word doctor so I don't work as a dentist anymore but I know when I used to go into these environments I would actually introduce myself as Dr Masa Majafah just to sort of let them know hang on a minute I am educated I have been to university I'm like you are normal it's just a piece of clothing that you're sort of making a huge assumption on the person I am because of the way that I'm dressed. It's so crazy and then this concept of no hijab day it's like what next? No still our day? So are you going to tell me to stop praying for a whole day? That's a fair point actually. I don't know like no Ramadan month or something. Who knows honestly. It's like you can see the thinking of Nazmah Khan when she initiated world hijab day. Where is the thinking behind no world hijab day? It makes no sense. It shows it's just a reaction to a negative experience that someone has had as a child and they want to now move past that by doing something so crazy. Yeah absolutely. The way that we present hijab to the world is the most important thing because I remember as a non muslim the first ever lecture I listened to about hijab it was talking about the fact that if an uncovered woman goes out in public and a man looks at her then she carries the sin of that man as well. And I was just like oh my god. It was like fire and brimstones and I was just like. So he's not responsible at all? No it's always the woman's fault you know.  I think that's the sad part. I think a lot of the times hijab, the physical hijab of the clothing is talked to girls from the perspective of a man telling them or a mother or someone else telling them who resents wearing it and where is it because she feels she has to rather than wearing it out of love and passion and understanding. I think that's where we go wrong. Absolutely yes and it's amazing that like just such a small thing of a non muslim putting a scarf on their head for the day like how much it could potentially change them. You know it goes back to what our prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi said that you know just an hour of reflection is equivalent to 70 years of worship and when we think deeply about these things like we see that actually like so many of our thoughts are just irrational and detrimental almost. I don't think a lot of the times we're even aware of what our thoughts are. It's like our minds just taken over and we have a lot of negative thoughts going on and on in our mind and something as positive as hijab can actually just get you to question why someone would wear that and why they would choose to do this. Even if it doesn't get you to question I think that building that sort of solidarity and that unity amongst human beings is really really powerful. It's like you know what I'm not going to wear it. I don't agree with it but I'm going to try out just to show you that I'm with you and that's beautiful because it's not that we're telling them to do something that is against their values and their principles. It's doing something that is just going to stand side by side with you for a day and I think that's really amazing and I think if we as human beings can come together then imagine what an amazing world this would be. Oh, subhan Allah. That would just be incredible, wouldn't it? I'm really sorry, sister. We're going to have to end it there but once again thank you so much for this wonderful discussion. Up next, my dear viewers, we'll be answering your fit questions regarding the salaf, inshallah.