And, hey guys, this is Darkness City. I believe you can see me live. Please comment on the chat, what's your name, where you from, and what you go for 2023, and we should be live on YouTube. And make them, let's play one minute countdown timer and we have lots of people to do live with me today. So let's do this. Let's do the countdown timer. Yeah, comment on the chat, what's your name, where you from, and if you're interested in live resume review, free resume review, comment on the chat as well. I'm gonna show the instructions right after this. So we should be live on both YouTube and LinkedIn. Hey guys, this is Darkness City, a director of product and feature in Forbes. I've helped hundreds of people learn their dream PM job offer in bank companies at Union Corn startup and continue to get promoted as a product leader for people who join us live today. We are gonna do free live resume review. I also have some people join Zoom with me and soon I'm gonna show you the instructions regarding how to do resume review with me. Let me go to LinkedIn and YouTube and see all the comments. Oh, we have lots of people comment already. Okay, let me see who else is here. Let's see, Rene and AB, AB is one of our students. Let's go and Arden from India, AB in the U.S. Rene from Nashville, how are you? And S.S. Vara, currency graduate student in masters in management information system. Go is get this into two PM interviews, your question resume review, awesome, okay, great. So now here's how it works and everybody regarding interview review and how to get live Zoom link with me right now. Okay, so here's what we'll do. Let me share you the instructions at the same time. Let me do this. Let me go to LinkedIn, let me go to YouTube. I see one sec, I see London from Nashville, how are you? That's an also now Canine, I think it's called Canine, Cahill, good morning and that's from YouTube. How are you? Awesome. So let's do this. Here's what we do. Let's get started right away and let me share the instructions and today we have so many live resume review. So pay close attention. Okay, so here's how we do it and also how to submit your resumes for your own Zoom. You get started right away. Okay, and also people get started. We also love to share any inspiring stories. So this is actually our student Chan and people inside the PM and Sarah who already know Chan and actually Chan is a consultant at Deloitte and also a part-time MBA class of 2023. And she actually already land a senior part-time manager, senior PM for the technical, which is technical senior part-time manager in Amazon. So this is someone who took advantage of the fall recruiting season. So if you're currently in school, the fall recruiting season already started right now. And as we are speaking, for example, Meta already started their RPM program and I believe they just made announcement. I think the application opens on October 2nd. Right now everybody just get ready to brush up the resume, which is also we are in the right time for everybody to join us live, have your resume ready as well. So right now it's literally the primary recruiting season. You're right in the middle of it, do not miss out, create the opportunities. It's going to be presented for people who are prepared. Okay, and also remind everybody to download 50 interview questions in different companies. And we use fan company as a database and the same questions will be asked in different kind of non-fan companies as well. For example, even chocolate company like Hershey's, they asked you a question regarding all design of Uber app for blind people. Even chocolate company asked the same questions in this database. So go to this website, darknancy.com slash 50fan to get all the 50 interview questions database, okay? And let me put this in the chat so people can directly download it. And let me do this very quickly. YouTube, put it in LinkedIn as well. Okay, cool, let's continue. And important information, everyone who is doing live resume review right now. Okay, anyone with live resume review right now and email nancy at darknancy.com before we go live, all of you guys should have emailed info at pmsrho.io. Okay, and my team already sent you the link and email wishes about 12 hours before we go live. Okay, you should already check email. So whoever joining on Zoom are people who pre-registers, but if you didn't have time to pre-register right now, you can email me at nancy.nancy.com. Okay, email your resume right here. And let me show you who gets the priorities. I believe when people pre-register through the info email, we prioritize people who already went through the masterclass. Okay, so gonna show what is the masterclass later on, but people who already went through the masterclass in your email sending over to me, you should include the following to say, free resume review, register masterclass and the dates you registered and attach your resume. Okay, and then I'm gonna put up your resume to do live resume review. Just tell me when did you register because these people get priorities first. Okay, we do have like hundreds of people already registered. So these people go first. If you're currently PMA students, just email me like AB, you can just email me say APMA students because they're already inside program I can review for free as well. So here's what we do. Okay, email me in nancy.nancy.com. And when you would, I do not go live email my team in for PMA server.org. Okay, so understand which one the email. Okay, right now email me directly afterwards or before my live YouTube live, you should already email my team. Okay, some of you guys are on Zoom right now. So those are people who already email my team the same resume link already. Okay. Oh, so what is muscle class? Here's what's going on here.  We have our muscle class. We talk about learn how to create keto product portfolio in two weeks of Elendro PM job offer during recession even if you reject it again and again. So you could have no experience or some of the recent layoff. Either one this product portfolio is a key to you beating all the competition. Okay, so to go to this website and register and many of you got hundreds of you guys already registered. That's why you're coming here for free resume review. Whoever registered you have access to free resume review. Let me just send you the link in the chat at the same time. Let me show you what this about. So you know which one you register so you don't fail duplication of what you have done. Okay, so right here, this is muscle class. I'm also going to put the link in the description. Okay, so darknancy.com on our homepage is a button. Say hey, click register for your free muscle class. Learn about product portfolio is right here. Okay, pick the time and day the most works best for you and directly come here to this website. Okay, if you already registered, as I said, email me your name, the date you registered and then to tell me when exactly your email me resume right now. Okay, cool. I'm also going to put the link in YouTube and LinkedIn. Okay, cool. Okay, so now let me do this. Let me bring the live resume review. Let's do the first one first. I know lots of you are already sending your questions. I gonna answer your questions in the chat. Okay, let's finish the first resume review as well. And also people make sure you submit your resume as soon as possible is first come for serve based on whoever registered muscle class, whatever left over time. We are going to directly review whoever didn't get chance to register. Okay, so let me bring people on Zoom right now. Stop sharing. Moyo, how are you? Hi, sorry, hi, how are you doing? Good, can you turn on your camera? Yeah, no problem. Stop. Yeah. You just email me your resume. I got it already. Okay, so can you do a quick introduction of your background? Yeah, so I initially started my career in PWC as an intern. So I worked as a business strategist at that point in time. And when I started my official career once I was doing school, that was in 2020. I worked as a product designer. So I worked as a product designer for two years. Then I got into, I worked as, after PWC, I wanted to transition into something, products management related. So I was able to get like an associate products management role in a small consultant firm. So I was able to just work on like one major projects. Then I left, sorry, then I left Nigeria coming to Canada and I'm currently, I just currently finished my project management program. So during the program I was able to work as a project manager. So I kind of used the things I learned while as a product designer, as a product manager in the, yeah, as a project manager. I was able to use those things. So yeah, now I'm currently trying to get like a full-time role in product management in Canada. Awesome. Cool, congratulations immigrated to Canada. And this is amazing. We had lots of people moving globally and try to achieve their dream, congrats, congrats. So let me do a resume review live with you and tell you how to improve it. I see that register our masterclass on September 13th, okay, great. So let me pull up this, share my screen right now. Erin else, you can email me directly at Nancy at darknancy.com. Let me also put it in the chat. Let me see darknancy.com. I just put it in LinkedIn. Let me put on YouTube as well. So you guys have it. Okay, cool. So they registered so that we know we'll put our first people. Right, let me do this. Let me share my screen right now. This is great. So the first section is more like a, so it's of project I've actually worked on, but I transformed them to like a portfolio based on everything you've been recommending. So I have three projects there, but I just kept the two major ones because the last one is more like a case study. This one's with you. Hi. Cool, great. Let me do a quick review. I'm glad you already implement a strategy we covered in masterclass. This is great. So there's two projects and experience. Jimin, awesome. You already use- Hi, ma'am. Hello, who's this? Awesome. So we're doing live resume review right now. You should email me your resume at Nancy at darknancy.com. So let me share my screen again. Ma'am, but I have no experience as a product manager like before. I never worked at this job. Okay, are you here to do free resume review? Well, I am going to join this session to know about project manager like the title in Eventus. I mean, Event Pride, I'm sorry. Okay, in that case, you don't need to do a resume review. You just have some questions. Okay, great. Cool, let's go through the questions one by one. Now, let me do this. Let me... Oh, now here's a quick reminder for people who is late. Anyone who is running the free resume review, come here. Slow down. This is who? Slow down. Anyone who is doing free resume review here is instructions. Okay, email me at Nancy at darknancy.com right now. And if we are not live, you should email my team. They organize all the information I need. Okay, so two things. Now, let's go here. Ma'am, I'm sorry for interruption again, but I am my resume. I have no project manager experience. My experience is in the food safety and the quality. I never worked at this job before and I took this course because you said that I can work as... I mean, the title, How to Work as a Project Manager with No Technical Experience because I want to learn about this. Yeah, we'll discuss more. We need to go in sequence. Okay, Mo you joined before you, okay? I am sorry, Ma'am, I'm just saying... Yeah, you can... Do you mind mute yourself? Well, I need to go through his resume first. Okay, this is great. So, let me review everything in general. You clearly use our template. This is very good. Cheese, so much, so much. Great, in high level, it's good. Okay, so number one thing when you change this for your project, move it directly under experience first because the project is also experienced. Your portfolio is also experienced, so you can move it down below, but you need to write more regarding what do you do for your portfolio? Did you interview customers? Did you design roadmap? Okay, so rewrite this, my movie on the experience. Now, in school, I like all the achievements. Clearly use our template, resume template. Hey guys, if you don't know what's our resume template, come on the chat, I will show you where you can download the resume template, okay? And then see this responsibility. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, cross-functional team. So I will move this earlier because you talk about, you already execution with lots of people, cross-functional team, I will move this to earlier of the bullet point or split into two bullet points. Okay. Contact voice-to-customer interviews, those are great. Cool, social department manager. Cross-front, da, da, da, da, da. Game by aim, cross-senior department manager, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. For example, like the feedback loop, whatever should be voice-to-customer interviews or collective voice-to-customer interviews. So this can add more PM keywords in general and it had lots of collaboration. I think when people are consulting, I just say you collaborate without people, it doesn't matter, four PMs, we collaborate, but most importantly, you drive roadmap, you design go-to-market strategy. So those are important things you will miss on your resume and then product designer. Use adoption rate, the impact is great.  Design concept, this is great. Cool. I think the main thing is your product portfolio wasn't well-structured, this thing may change. And also move some of the keywords I want to move up earlier or split into two key points. And also add more keywords and also rewrite some of the ways you describe it. And then your resume will be good to go, hey, I like it. Sir, can I just ask one thing? So the site I created, which is what is actually hosting my portfolio, like on it to get like feedback from me, whether it's with like good enough or if there's anything I need to change. So we don't give free resume, we don't give free portfolio review in our live training. Okay. It is like Mark interview, okay? Okay, yeah. Yeah, we only do portfolio review with student insight, permission, accelerator. If you're interested, go to this website, darknancy.com and learn more. Okay, we only do resume review when I go live. Okay, cool. All right, and let me pull up the next one. Hold on, slow down. There's a sequence option here. Thank you. No problem, best of luck. This is great. So let me, someone email me. Let me, I already received like eight different emails from all of it. Let me see. Yeah, I see K, you say registered for space, whatever. Who's a, you registered for today's masterclass? Okay, great, cool. Okay, so make sure you mention when did you register? For example, B2, you email me, but you didn't say when did you register for the masterclass? We go through these people first.  But your email is literally disqualified regarding the information I asked for earlier. Okay, just quick reminder for everybody, if you do free resume review, here's the email you need sent to, and also here is what you need to say in your email. Okay, I literally already have 10 in my inbox. I don't think I can just do everybody or we always prioritize people in the masterclass because that's your bonus. Okay, people attending masterclass is a bonus, we should do free resume review. The reason is after we do free resume review, then you also learn how to view credit portfolio and all the strategies, how to network with hybrid managers and then you're good to go to go out for your job hunting process. Okay, so that's why we give you free resume review before or after you attend masterclass so that you're ready to immediate jump into your job hunting journey in this primary recruiting season. Okay, that's a purpose we're doing this for free for people registering for the masterclass, which is right here. Go to doc.ncd slash masterclass or directly go to doc.ncd, which is our homepage and then you can directly come join us. Okay, and then email me your resume, which is here, nancy.ncd.com, all right? And tell me which date you registered because we do want to prioritize these people or people instead of PM like Sarah here, you just need to let me know. Okay, great, cool. So now let me do this. Oh, man, so can you unmute yourself? Let's take a question first because you're on Zoom with me first. So what question, what question do you have? Well, I have no brilliant experience, no merit experience of working as a career manager and I want to know about this role and how if I want to make a career shift, how to work because I work in food safety for the last 12 years and I wanted to make a career shift from being a food safety manager to be a product manager, like what should I learn, what should I do and how to make a resume to have life or training or jobs online and, you know, like finding new people. And do I blueprint to transition from project manager to product manager? Am I right? From food safety manager to product manager. I never work it as a, I have a small experience with projects like I have a course from BMI called Certified Project Management Associate, CBMI, but I never- So you're a safety manager? What is safety manager? Tell me. I am working in health and safety regulations, food safety regulations, inspections, training, management. I see, okay. So here's what you do. Number one, you must learn what is product management. Okay, so what does product manager do? In high level, we run roadmap. We work with a engineering team designer to design the roadmap and they execute everything we put on the roadmap. We also write requirement and we work in a cross-functional team to lead the team to execute everything together, okay? There are many different skills of what product managers need to do. I have a YouTube video, I cover all the top six skills that you need to learn first before you even become a product manager because when you are a safety manager, it's likely you have done something similar for example, working cross-functional team. Yes. Maybe, right? And maybe you talk to customers to understand the voice customer feedback is also something similar, right? Yes. Yeah, exactly. So you must learn what exactly is product management and then you'll be like, oh, I have done this and this and this. They'll say 60% overlap already, okay? But without learning this, you didn't know we have done the job, okay? Here is the fact, 91% of people who transition in, who are premeditated, they transition from other functions. 91% of people, we all transition, I transition from systems engineer, okay? Everyone transition except some lucky people who went to Harvard and Stanford, okay? Those people, the first job out of college is working for Google, you know? And those are 9%, we don't talk about this like lucky 9%, okay? They are 91% we all transition. So therefore, step number one is learn what the differences. Let me show you the free materials you can start learning today. Whenever I go live, I don't do basics. I teach people the most advanced knowledge in the master, okay? So let me go here. So here are the free training. Okay, where is my playlist? So there are different type of playlist, which I have senior product manager. Yeah, different playlist. Let me show you product management skills. So we published earlier. For example, there are a product management skills, transition to PM from consultant background or MBA background, those important skills you need to master. And there's also other skills I filmed earlier. It's mainly in this playlist. How to become a product manager or this one? How the product manager in Microsoft in 60 days and different kinds of skills you master. So let me send you the skills. What does the product manager do? Where is this one? There is another one, which is what does the product manager do? And let me send you this one regarding the skills first. I filmed, I put in the chat. Let me also put in the chat in YouTube Live and LinkedIn Live. I got an MBA from Harvard. So yeah, only 7% of MBA from Harvard actually land a PM job because they literally don't know how to transform the past experience. They say the wrong things, many crazy things happen. Okay, let me do this is another skills video I filmed. Let me go to my YouTube channel. There are product management skills. Let me go to this video. Can I ask you something? Yeah. I don't know if you're familiar with this or not but Google have started a program called Build Your Future with Google. They have different apprenticeship and different internship about many jobs and many like product managers and all this stuff. But I want to ask you if I can apply for like you think this is a good move to try to apply for one of these apprenticeship on the internship because it's not about the money it's about the experience and training for free. They will give it to you and it's online. That's why I'm asking you because... Yes, you can. Always you should do more work to improve your skills. I think that's a good experience for you for sure. Thank you very much. Yes, okay. So we're, let me see. Ah, product management skills. Six essential skills become a PM. Let me also put this link in the chat as well. Okay, I like that. Those are in my playlist of how to become a PM with no experience. Hang on, there is a playlist. How to become a product manager with no experience right here. This playlist is all talking of someone start from scratch with no experience at all. Okay, those six skills and different kinds of skills how to transition top 10 jobs we will need to master is here. Okay, so now let me also put this video. This is all the skills you guys master. What I mean is six skills right here. Let me put the chat so people can study. Where's my can? Okay, so we are good to go. So number one step is study what's those skills. And then you need to know how to put all your transferable skills on your resume which is what we're doing right now with teaching people how to resume. And before you come here you should watch the free training to download our resume template. We also have a free list of resume. Resume, this is our resume resume playlist right here. Everything watches for videos and you know what to put on your resume and in the description of this videos where you can download the template that Amoyou just used and his resume looks really great in the description of this videos you click and you're going to be able to download the same template he used to write your resume. Okay, so that's what you need to do. Okay, and then the final part is know how to talk about your past experience in the interview. Okay, and then another important step is in order of truth you already have transferable skills in PM you also need to create a protocol photo which is the key to beat all the competition because it's very competitive job people actually pay more as a plan manager it's also very hard to get in. You're literally competing with Harvard MBAs right now. So how to do better? You need to put a portfolio which we cover in our channel which is also one of the most a watch video regarding how to build a protocol photo watch this video which we cover a lot here. It might number four. Yes, my number four most watch YouTube videos and then once you finish this you come to our masterclass where we teach you different templates and different tools you can use for protocol photo okay which is right here come to darknessv.com slash masterclass or our homepage will lead you to here. So that's all the steps you take to transition to PM. Okay, cool. Okay, so now let me do this. Let me do resume review. A lot of people already emailed me your resume. Let me go through the sequence based on when you sent it to me and also based on when did you register for masterclass? He didn't say it so who is our Jordan? Your email didn't tell me when did you register for the masterclass? So let me go through other people's resume first. If you have one time I will go to you. Okay. You're talking to me one more time. Hello? Yes, ma'am. Are you talking to me about I don't have like do you want me to register for the free masterclass now? Oh, for everybody. Same thing for everybody. Okay, so anybody who needs free resume review you go to masterclass first to learn the strategies and template and then you come here because we have limited spot we already have hundreds of people went through this. So we prioritize people already went through the masterclass. You can go to our website, darknessv.com and learn more. Okay. And of course several more time I can review anyone's resume. I just want to prioritize people where hundreds of people go through this. Okay. Thank you ma'am. So you want me to get out now like sign out of this Zoom and trade the masterclass? Oh, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You can stay muted on this Zoom and see me going through other people's resume. Okay. Ma'am, can I ask you something before you? Yeah. I mean, I read the title of the workshop on even brightest was telling like I was how to become a project manager without a technical background. I didn't know it was the resume review. So I am sorry. It's just that they are putting this title on even bright telling you this is the title of the workshop. Oh, interesting. The ones we had is free resume review. I'm going to ask my team to confirm regarding the title of the event. I will send you the link even bright too. So you can see it yourself ma'am. Okay. It's okay. I'm going to ask them to change this. You got it from even bright, right? Yes ma'am. That's why I am. I want to take this post. I see. Great. Cool. Thank you for sending it over to me. Let me ask my team to change it. So, can I ask one more question ma'am before I go? Yeah. Go ahead. I mean, are you going to make it like another session with the same title how to become a project manager without a technical background? I mean again? Are you going to make a subject like I mean a training session with how to become a project manager again?  I will take it. And of course I will watch your videos on the YouTube channel. I'm very grateful for all these good resources. But I'm also asking if you are going to make such a course like how to become a project manager without a technical background. Oh yes. I can make a YouTube video today. Actually, I talk about it already in one of my videos. Yes. I'm going to make a video today about this so you can watch more. Yeah. So I will watch on YouTube. Okay ma'am. Thank you. No problem. If I want to get in contact with you can I have your contact information like your email? And I mean, can you send it to me now? Yeah. Email my team. Email my team at info. A PMExcelerator.io is going to be there. Yes ma'am. Thank you. Great. Cool. Yeah. You can stay muted and let me go through other people's review. Okay. Cool. So let me share my screen. As far as you say you didn't register for masterclass yet. Let me review other people's resume first. I have 100 people already registered. I am. Let me prioritize them. It's more fair to do it. Bindu, same thing. You didn't tell me when or whether you registered for masterclass. Let me go through other people first. Same thing. Lakshay. No, you're not even following the instructions. How to do it? Yeah. Okay. B2 is a registered on October 3rd. Okay. So now let me review your resume right now. So let me do this. B2 profile summary. Okay. So now here is your resume. And summary is I love that you explained it in the retail industry. Amazon smarts, common solutions, and social problem manager, problem manager. I don't like this resume because it's highlighted the wrong information. You highlighted a profit calculator, user baseline, authenticating stuff. It's not what the problem manager is looking for. And especially it's very distracting. It's very distracting when you highlight the wrong keywords. I'd rather you don't highlight anything. If you want to highlight everything, please make sure you give the right keywords. Okay. They're all wrong keywords to highlight. Okay. Significantly incorrect. And making even worse. Okay. When you did a wrong, oh, you don't know what is problem management. You highlighted something very weird. Okay. Or what are those account managers? So while you do sales, you manage account managers, like very incorrect this resume. It's significantly in all of this. All of this need completely rewritten. Okay. So now let me show you guys what we need to change for this type of resume. You too. Right here. Significantly incorrect. So come here. Go to my YouTube video playlist. YouTube video playlist. Where I talk about resume. Where's my resume? Right here. Those four. This one shows you all the keywords you'd hit in your resume. Okay. And which has everything you need. And then over there, you can download different kind of resume review, different kind of PM resume review template, different things. Those are free. You can do it on your own. But this is significantly incorrect. Whoever this resume is, significantly incorrect. Please read what keywords in highlight and bold the right keywords. Okay. So let me stop sharing right now. Okay. Let me go to the next one. And also K Fred. Yes. I got your resume. So let me review your resume right now. Cool. Let me share the resume. Analysts. Okay. So people who are here, if you don't know how to submit your resume, let me review this again. Here's how to do live resume review. Okay. You come here. You email me right now when I'm live. Email me this. Email me at Nancy.nancy.com. When I'm not live, you email my team info, PM, et cetera, I.O. And then you can join the Zoom link to ask me any questions you have or do a live resume review. Okay. Like how Moyo and also Musta just did. Okay. I already sent you the Zoom link. I also have already 20 people requested. You should already receive the email from my team as well. Okay. Make sure to check your email. And it's right here. Okay. So now who get prioritization? You go to this, docnancy.com. Whoever, if you register for Masterclass, tell me when, because these people get priorities. Okay. We only have one hour per week to do free resume review and whoever register for this, you have priorities. Okay. The reason is in our Masterclass, we teach you how to do part of portfolio. Okay.  So that's why we give you free resume review so that you are ready for upcoming events. Okay. Free training from us. Come here, docnancy.com. Sebastian Masterclass or docnancy.com. You just, which is right here on top of my screen, docnancy.com right here. And you get everything you need. Okay. Okay. So now let me review this. Resume, create an assessment report and then let's pull data from. Again, this resume is not the PM resume. This resume is, let me tell you what I've done in the past, but it's not talking about, let me tell you how much I've done in the past is related to quality management. As I said earlier, 91% of people who are PM today, the transition into PM from very different background. For example, analysts have so many analysts who became a PM, no problem, 200%. You can do the same as well. However, you don't even know what is part of management and then you put the wrong keywords on your resume. You don't even learn the basic skills of what is part of management. That's why this, you can not pass any interviews or you cannot even get selected for interview because this resume is completely wrong. I will rewrite this resume completely, completely. Okay. Read this one. Yeah, same thing, completely incorrect. Okay. So let me do this. Let me completely incorrect. Here's what you do. Okay. Number one thing, you go to our YouTube, you learn what the different kind of keywords, do we put on your resume? Okay. You need those keywords on your resume.  Off, right here. Top of the playlist. How to become a product manager with no experience playlist. Over there, I talked about different kinds of skills that you must master. Oops, right here. The different kinds of skills, many, many different examples. Okay. Six essential skills to become a PM fast, many different like top 10 key PM jobs out there, many different skills. And don't, you don't need an MBA, only 7% of Harvard MBA become a product manager. Okay. So you watch those key skills. After you understand the skills, then you understand why you need to put those keywords on your resume and what are those keywords mean? Okay. Those are very critical and important for all of you guys. Okay. Let's go to the next resume. This resume need to be rewritten completely. Okay. Completely rewritten. This is crazy. You can't interview at all. Okay. Stop sharing. Lakshay, you wanna zoom link? Okay. Cool. You register must class for October 3rd. Okay. Great. So let me do this. Lakshay, let me send you the zoom link right now. One sec. How do I go to my zoom? To do the... Lakshay, I just sent you the link to the zoom link and join us. Okay. Let me do this. At the same time, we're waiting for him to join zoom. Let me answer some questions on LinkedIn right now. Okay. So, Bitu, can you join? How can I join the zoom meeting? You must email me. Okay. But I already review your resume. You don't need to join me live. Rini, how are you? Let me see. Someone asked a question. It's for non-U.S. resident students. What do you mean? Bitu asked non-U.S. resident students. Why? What jobs? You mean all jobs? All jobs are for both U.S. and non-U.S. combination of everything. Okay. So as far as I graduate, cool. Okay. Let me check all the questions.  There's so many questions on YouTube. So if someone on YouTube said, I have a quick question. I know right now is a recruiting season, especially for anyone that's in school or looking for a job. My question is I'm graduating in December. So, should I be applying into internship or job? No, you should get into full-time jobs. You graduate in December. Yes, you should get full-time job, not internship. Internship is for next summer. Here's a sample resume template. Yes, the sample resume template is here. That let me share with you how to find the sample resume template. Sample resume template is here. Here, resume template, go to darknancy.com slash pm resume. And also in many of my YouTube videos, resume YouTube video description, you can directly find the link over there as well. For example, let me put this in the link right now, people ask. Any of my YouTube description which has a link sample resume template over there. I put in the link of YouTube. Let me put it on LinkedIn as well. Okay, cool. So now let's do this. Let me do a live resume review for Lakshay. He just joined us. How are you, Lakshay? Can you turn on your camera and on yourself? Tell me your background. Hello, can you hear me now? Yes, I can. Yeah, hi. My name is Lakshay. I recently finished my product management internship at Esri. So I was working on a location intelligence project. So I was doing a comparative research for them, looking at different competitors, looking at their data offerings, what are the features they have, what are the spaces where we can grow, what are the features, which customers name, we talk to different customers. Let's read the way you describe it. I don't know, maybe because, I don't know, I couldn't understand what you said. You say you're fresh graduate and? So I finished my internship from Esri. So they are a GIS company.  So I was doing a competitive research for them. So I was looking at what other competitors are there for that specific product and what are their data sources, how they're, what are the use cases they're using, what are the different fields they're operating in and what kind of features they have, what are the spaces where we can grow, what are the advantages that we have, what are our weaknesses, what are the spaces where we can grow. And I had to make those recommendations to our product managers, to our product managers. Okay, cool. All right, so let me review your background. It looks like you already, some kind of internship experience.  Purdue University, you graduate already. So this is, oh, you did some internship after your graduation? Okay. Yes, yes. Okay. Purdue University is a very good school. So that's your internship, product manager intern. Where are those like requirement voice customer interview, working with engineering team, proposed product features, roadmap, all those are missing. You work with engineering team, right? You have this. Yeah, I did, I did. Then did you use agile methodology? Yes. Then you write it incorrectly. The way how you write your resume is incorrect, okay? So if you have working with engineering team, you should say like you work with a team of 10 engineers using agile methodology to develop ABCD features. Okay, so, and also inside into new features, I think this means voice of customer interview, competitive insight, something like that. If you have done voice of customer interview, you should say conducted voice of customer interview. Your word choice was incorrect, how you write your past experience. So let me see, you also have this. You have MEP, success metrics, features, the transparent engineering team. Insider. Again, why so much provide so much insight? Is this a voice of customer interview? If you translate the voice of customer interview, you say it in the right way. And if you wrote requirements, you say it, you have written requirements. If you manage a team list of like features on roadmap, you say on roadmap. The way you write it was incorrect. Looks like you already had experience, but the way you write it is incorrect. That's the biggest problem, okay? So it's about word choice and how you say in the language of managers. Let me show you what you have missed. Here, come to, here's how you write it. Let me go here. This resume teaches you how to do it, write it in what way. If you already had done your PMA job, had many experience in terms of interview, internship, and past full-time job opportunities, you must write it in the right way. So this video, I give you examples of how to write it with a script you can use right here, different things. You shouldn't take a look. I think you write it incorrectly, completely, just like weird. You don't sound like people speak like a PM. You say you have PM experience, you don't sound like what people think you're fake. Okay, so let me put this video in the link and then you guys can study this later on. You should also use our template. You didn't use our template either. You should talk about achievement and rose responsibilities and our templates right here. You guys can click in the description of this video and then download over there. Okay, so let me put the link in the chat. That's the problem. What other people have? Okay, so let me put the link in the chat to LinkedIn and YouTube as well. Okay, so everyone should get this link. Everyone, please write it better. You're already done it. What a waste of opportunity. You don't write it right. But anyway, so use the right methodology can write it significantly better, okay? But congrats, you already have related experience. That's a big advantage you already had over other people, okay? Awesome, so let me do this. Let me check my inbox, see any of the resumes. Just one more thing, so are there specific, what are the areas you found like in terms of writing? What should I change? Like the style of writing? I gave you examples already. How you write it completely incorrect. For example, all the insight you can say is a voice across my interview. Everything of it down in the past was a team of whatever harmony engineer, working cross-functional engineer, whatever you can say, you should have said. Okay. Let a team of 10 engineers are using the agile methodology to develop ABCP features. I gave you the sample sentences already. I want you to watch replay later on and watch the video and say the way I say it, because right now it sounds like it's fake, to be frank. It sounds like you already have experience, but you don't sound like a PM. You don't speak like a PM.  Okay, so go there. I gave you two examples. Feel free to watch replay if you can catch it or go back to the YouTube videos where I give you even more examples later on. Okay, everyone should follow the same strategies. This applicable for everybody who actually didn't know how to talk about their past experience. Okay, awesome. So let me answer more questions. People have sent in more questions on YouTube and LinkedIn. Chow said, how do I join the Zoom meeting? And you let me, you should email me. People, you're late. Let me send you this right now. You email me. For people who joined late, remind me to send you the instructions. So let me do this. Let me send instructions again right here. Okay, so you should already email my team when I'm not going live. My team should already send you the link. Okay, and she sends them in 24 hours before I go live. She go to info.pmsr.io. Okay, when I'm going live, email me at nancy.nancy.com. Okay, so email me right away. If you want to join right now, then I send you the Zoom link. But we are also towards the end of our live. But feel free to email me right away. I'll wait for two more minutes. Let me answer other questions at the same time. I said, two years product experience in China and I serve as a product director overseeing 12 p.m. But now I'm looking to secure departmental internship in the U.S. while pursuing your study in the U.S. And you're looking for, should I look for entry-level position or mid-level? What can you provide advice how to leverage your past experience to increase my chance getting p.m. interviews more quickly? Oh, very good question. Okay, so now in this situation, what you need to do is immediately, you don't need to look for entry-level p.m. position. We have students like you who work in China with many years p.m. experience and then senior p.m. title already. So you don't need to become an entry-level p.m. in the U.S. However, there is a risk because everything you did, let's say back in China, if you don't know how to package your past experience, people was, oh, everything did in China is kind of like not the right way how American people do p.m.s. If you don't know how to package it, you don't know how to speak the language of p.m. in the U.S. and if you don't know how the big tech companies in the U.S. is building product, whatever you have done in the past in China will not be counted as a p.m. experience. Okay, but if you know how to package better, learning is the right way, you should be able to package your past years of experience in China, especially you manage 12 people. Of course, you should be at least senior p.m. in the U.S. if you know how to package better. And this has been, many of my students, they did it and land a senior p.m. title already. So it depends on how and the answer is yes, you can become a senior p.m. Regarding how, you need to really learn how to do better. So feel free to, if you want to learn how to do better, go to our YouTube channel, watch more of our YouTube videos where we have lots of free training and you can also go to our website right here, docnancy.com to learn more about different kind of like end-to-end training inside a p.m. accelerator and you can learn more with our head missions as well. Okay, that's in a high level how it works. But in general, you should be able to become a p.m. Okay. So there's another person who emailed me without following the instructions. Okay, Raku, you emailed me saying that, oh, I need the resume review without telling me when did you register for the masterclass? And I said we prior has people who registered for masterclass because over hundreds of people already registered, they get priorities. Okay, you should send me the date when did you register? At the same time, let me answer questions quickly. Cool. How to leverage your past experience to increase your chance to get more interviews? The way to leverage your past experience is number one, you need to learn end-to-end how American big tech companies build product. Number two, you must be able to compare how much your past experience in China is matching the skills and level of responsibilities and what p.m. is doing in the U.S. That's very, that's the most important thing that can directly package your past experience to U.S. which we know will be, oh, this person already had p.m. experience, then great, we can give her senior p.m. title or at least p.m. title with higher pay. Okay, and then the last is how you write your resume better, which is significantly important. As you can see, we have reviewed many different resumes earlier. Someone's resume is way better than other people. Someone else's resume is also significantly worse than other people. I'm sorry for saying too very straightforward. Yes, I don't think some of the resume can even learn the interview at all. Okay, so therefore it's more packaging your resume. And then the final round is how would you be able to talk better in the interviews and do you have a product portfolio? Once you have a product portfolio, then you will know how to share your impact and transferable skills to impress the hiring manager. So our student Amy landed job in TikTok. She literally showed her product portfolio and then landed job in TikTok getting pay over $300,000 per year just because the impact of the product portfolio is so strong. By the way, you guys should watch the, let me change this free resources regarding how to use product portfolio. So right here, I hear how to use product portfolio. That's how Amy landed job in TikTok using her product portfolio. Rear is my playlist. Right here. Watch this video and see how she used product portfolio. She also have two years experience doesn't work in the US either but she was able to get pay $300,000 per year and working for TikTok and very exciting, very, very exciting opportunities for her. Let me put the link in the chat so people can directly join and watch this and learn from other people as well. Okay, so where's my YouTube? Let me show YouTube first, YouTube. Yeah, we put on YouTube and awesome. Cool, great. All right, so it looks like we're up time or we're out of time. Okay, so I should have reviewed everyone who went to masterclass, submit your resume, we're done with everything. Okay, anyone who didn't have chance to do it, you can join us next week. Okay, and also make sure to register in masterclass wherever register you got a priority because we only have one hour to go so all the questions, all the resume review. And I hope this is going to enlighten you how to change your resume significantly to make it land way more interviews much faster in this primary recruiting season. Let's read the primary recruiting season. Okay, awesome. Okay, so now this is Dr. NCD. I will see you in my next live. All right, and talk soon for anybody who registered for masterclass. I will see you live next week. Awesome, okay, talk soon. Have a good day. Make sure to like this video and also share any of our free training with any aspiring product managers. Going to see you soon in our upcoming free training. Oh, right here. I forgot. Here, if you register, make sure to check out your confirmation email which has a link to the template and free training. And so make sure to check your confirmation email. Okay, you also have different kind of resume templates sent out when you register for the masterclass right here. Okay, how to register? Go to docnancy.com slash masterclass or directly go to docnancy.com, our homepage. And then there's a button. You can click the button and it will take you to the same page and same thing. Awesome, okay, great. Cool, this is Dr. NCD, and we'll see you soon. And best of luck with everybody who are growing a career and during this primary recruiting season and talk soon to you guys. Bye guys.


Hello everybody. Welcome to the very first episode of 15 Minutes. I'm Marsha Martin and I'm your host for this short bi-weekly program about living and getting along in Longmont. We'll have a lot to say about our municipal government, how it works, and how it impacts our lives. Every episode of 15 Minutes features a guest who lives or works in Longmont. I choose my guests to highlight different ways to live in our city and to make a unique contribution to life in Longmont. They won't always be someone you know, but I hope you enjoy meeting each one. Today's guest is Matthew Popkin. Matthew moved to Longmont almost one year ago, coming to us from Washington, D.C. Hello Matthew Popkin and welcome to 15 Minutes. Thanks Marsha. It's a pleasure to be here.  I'd be happy to. And I'm a little bit amused to be even sitting here because I moved here just under a year ago and I guess you go to a brewery, you go to the farmers market and then you do a media interview with your local councilman and that's usually what new residents do. Yeah, that's how it is. Yeah, we welcome people as much as we can that way. It's a fantastic program really. Pleased to be here. So no, I grew up in Maryland, went to college in Maryland and I was working in Washington, D.C. up until last year and my fiance and I wanted a change of pace and I didn't have to change jobs because my company was based in Boulder and so we just loaded up the car, moved out and settled in Southmore Park. Southmore Park. Matthew is practically my neighbor.  Yeah, tell us about your job because it's a really fascinating one. I've always had an interest in working with cities and working on kind of clean energy and the energy transition and how cities can be designed to be more sustainable and so I work for Rocky Mountain Institute or RMI on our urban transformation team but generally I was mostly intrigued when I moved here to think about finally I have a city that I can call my home again and what does that mean when you actually live there, what kind of changes are going to happen over the next five, 10, 20 years and how do the decisions we make today shape that and so even at work those are the kinds of questions we are asking as a team, as a program that's helping cities across the country figure out this transition that has to happen to be more sustainable and to think about how we get around, how we live and where we live. It really makes me happy to hear you say Longmont is a city that I can call home. I like to think of that as my mission. You know that Longmont needs to be a city that is home to everyone who lives here and we really want everyone who works here to be able to live here. Honestly I was surprised to feel that way so quickly. This is the biggest move of my life that I've ever made and so it was you know it was a little nerve wracking leaving behind a city in an area in a region that I knew so well and frankly loved. I didn't leave DC or Maryland because I didn't like it there. It was a great place and there was also a lot of great things about Longmont and about the region of the front range overall right. We don't have mountains in the same way in Washington DC. The appellations are great but the Rockies are a different sense of scale and opportunity and it was just a pleasure to kind of shift over. My dog loves the outdoors. My fiance and I are both major trail runners so it's just been a lot of fun to readjust our life, get to know the community and get to kind of set up our roots here. Well I look forward to working with you and everyone else in Longmont in terms of making and keeping Longmont the kind of city that inspires those feelings. It's very interesting to me I met Matthew when he asked a really really good question at a coffee with counsel. I knew immediately that I was going to have to collar him after the session and get to know him and that's what we did and so far it's been a good collaboration. I'd like you to tell everybody a little bit about what you've done so far to engage with the city. You know one of the the funny thing about that coffee with counsel that you mentioned it's the only one I've been to it was the only one that I had thought to start to attend I was trying to think about how do I learn more about what's happening in the place that we live. We've already explored some breweries we checked out some restaurants gone on different trails and how do I get to a feel for what's happening at the community level for future plans for future developments and so what really struck me in that meeting was one I was the only resident from district two there and so because that stood out we happen to have a nice conversation there so that was fortuitous if I may say so but what really stood out was a lot of the challenges and questions that other people were raising which was most of the reason why I went there I didn't have any agenda I wanted to just hear like what are the topics of conversation right I learned a lot about the railroad issues I learned a lot about housing and future development plans and transportation and parking issues and what really struck me there was a lot of people wanted space but also wanted the convenience of being close together which is something you really value in the community and something I certainly do and so when I think about it what people what I think we all need to appreciate a little bit more and this is highly relevant for where Longmont is going is that density is actually an asset even in a part of the country where land is prevalent and there's a lot of space and open space density actually reduces the need for driving everywhere it reduces it encourages people to walk to restaurants it helps small businesses and and what struck me is some of the major plans if you're going west to east in Longmont the Boulder County fairgrounds are going through a revamp revamp right now the whole steam project that is perpendicular to Main Street that's proposed will fundamentally transform downtown Longmont in a really exciting way and then farther east on the sugar mill district I mean that is you know a historic site in Longmont that has a lot of transformative potential and I've seen that in other cities across the country if you take those three projects in aggregate there's going to be a whole new horizon in Longmont and that can be really really exciting if it's done well and that's part of the key right now and I think why I got both excited and interested I want to learn like what are the discussions happening around planning and development issues which aren't necessarily the most exciting but they actually have such a transformative potential and the city of Longmont will look completely different in 10 years I think so and changed for the better and I want everybody to know if I'm you know I'm breaking the fourth wall here but I did not set up that speech with Matthew he came to that conclusion all by himself I think it's really important for everybody to understand that the steps we're doing now the transition that Longmont is making from a suburb to an herb are going to solve a bunch of problems they're not going to create a bunch of problems which is what everybody tends to assume you know worst case thinking but the best case is that urban density for Longmont is going to mean that we have a whole lot more cool places and we have fewer cars on the road at least most the time especially if fewer people commute and more people live here and work here I think what's important to note on this because density can be a controversial topic for people density looks different in every place right and so a small city like Longmont will have a very different density or or build than what Denver has or what New York City has those are going to be entirely different just as you know a small city in West Texas will look different from Houston and so we get a chance to define what that looks like right now and I think that's what's particularly encouraging is that Longmont has set such a publicly available process out and Boulder County I know is running the fairgrounds process but all three of those projects are very publicly run right now and there's an opportunity for input because we do get to shape kind of the direction that that goes and we do need to recognize that that's an asset and a really nice value add to the community you know I'll give you an anecdote like I work I used to work before I was at RMI I used to work for a very small consulting firm and all of our clients were small cities and towns and many of them are in Appalachia rural Rust Belt areas of the country and they're going they're asking similar questions of like hey we used to be defined by our steel manufacturing or we used to be defined by coal what do we look like going forward and a lot of cities have sugar mill type districts and they're trying to reinvent what that looks like Longmont I think is is is farther ahead there and that they didn't have a long line doesn't have an industry that's closing out and something restarting in the same way but cities are still asking those same questions and it's going to look very different in Huntington West Virginia than it is in Lansing Michigan than it is in Longmont Colorado in some ways we do have that what Longmont thought of it before Longmont has been through two transitions really fast now we're entering the second but the first one was a farm community and a lot of people still hold a lot of nostalgia for that but you know there is no going back and then Longmont became a suburb and its economic engine was real estate development because it was inexpensive compared to Boulder where all the jobs were and whenever somebody doesn't like something about Longmont you will hear them say oh you're just doing it for the developers hasn't been true for a long time because our land is essentially used up the public voted to surround the city with an open space buffer and that circle is almost complete so in the developers guys but we're defining what our new economy our new architecture our new walkability our transit model is going to be and we've got all the experience of all those other cities to get it right what's really interesting about that I appreciate you sharing that Marsha because what's interesting and what I really want to highlight is that this is the time to get it right they're going to be some major projects happening and to do that right means we think about the walkability and the transit connectivity we think about you know what's the reliance that people have on commuting versus staying or using public transit versus driving and what's the sustainability of this whole system right how easy is it to get around but also how are we building and how do we want people to interact with the community I'm coming at just as a fresh resident in the last year but you know Boulder and Longmont are almost the same size in population at this point and I think Longmont has a lot more potential to grow and likelihood of growing faster than Boulder for a variety of reasons but then how we build how we design our communities and especially the new construction areas is going to really reshape the opportunities there and if we do it poorly or we try to not think about the interconnectivity of those systems we're gonna have to reinvest in that ten years from now and everyone's gonna be disappointed and so it's really important to get that right and I think that the direction the city is headed right now from at least the public engagement that I've joined so far seems really exciting and encouraging public engagement as part of the city management process was something that I had honestly never encountered in another town before and I've lived in you know quite a lot of places I was working in the private sector as an engineer so maybe I just didn't notice and they were really doing it but this is the first place that it's ever been part of my life and I'm delighted to see how engaged the public is even when the public is you know butting heads a little bit they still all really are working at the process with will and I think that's really important otherwise you know you're selling somebody something and they don't know what they get until they open the package I mean if I'm looking through those developments that we talked about before the fairground revamp is gonna be redefining where people gather and where people sell things for vendors and markets right that was one of the early things that I really gravitated towards was the farmers market and the Boulder County farmers market and it made the community feel a lot smaller a lot quicker where people gather and how people sell things then you get to that steam project and it's where people live and where people shop and then you get to the sugar mill and it could be a whole boat boat load of things but that's still up for discussion and it's just east of mainstream and there it's it's so it's such an interesting little spot and it's so picturesque from any part of the community too so however they get redefined I'm looking forward to seeing that it's gonna be wonderful and you know everybody in you think about it this is the saint very in river quarter goes all the way from Rogers Grove in the fairgrounds and it sweeps all the way east to the sugar mill and out of Boulder or out of Longmont rather yet the vision that we can put together of that is is really quite wonderful all the way the river corridor is already protected as an ecosystem even in the narrowest places where the buildings come up closest we have really a pretty unprecedented riparian protected area and we are not compromising on that some of the leading cities these days are really trying to do it's how do we embrace the natural assets that we have and work with that and build around it in creative and sustainable ways when we're when we're looking at when I am my team at work are looking at you know how are we shaping cities for the future we're thinking about the implications of increased heat of changes in precipitation rain we're looking at and what the climate change impacts will be in a whole variety of ways and how can that a small city like Longmont even kind of think about itself as its own ecosystem and own system and then how does our energy system and transportation system support that that's that's the opportunity that the projects I mentioned before and a lot of other questions before council in the city right now and the county have them in mind and you know I just have to add that one of the great things about Longmont is that in in terms of planning that transition for Longmont and in a way that's what Matthew and I both do for a living we have been incorporating social equity from the very beginning the idea that some of these transitions are going to cost some money and we are determined not to let people who can't invest in it themselves be left behind so part of the city plan part of what we think about when we have to dig up a street for ordinary maintenance is do we put in extra electric infrastructure so we can offer people community solar deals you know we're going to make sure that this transition doesn't leave anybody behind and that's the best way to make it work you're absolutely right and what I want to add to that is that there's a bit of a mind chef mind set shift that has to happen here which is we never asked what the return on investment was for paving a road never asked what the return on investment was for a park both of those are useful things to have in a city we don't expect a we don't expect Roosevelt Park to have a pet to pay the city back and create savings long-term but somehow we are expecting that from our energy system from a clean energy deployment we are expecting that from a solar project or from a bus you know downtown bus system some of these public services and goods will have a whole host of benefits but ROI may not be one of those that rent we have to invest in the system but maybe not expected to necessarily pay back because the public good is far greater than what that dollar value return would be over time and and that's hard because we've you know our system is built around the fundamental economics of how some of these projects get built but well you know that's true and yet we're a city yeah the public good is the ROI it's not to say that budget doesn't matter right like responsible budgeting is clearly incredibly important to give that flexibility enable those opportunities but it does mean it does reset the expectations of what we want to see from projects I love running and biking on the left-hand greenway almost every day I don't expect that to have somehow given the city or the county whoever's maintaining that a particular windfall in financial gains there's so much value that a city has to invest in that distinguishes it from any private entity to provide an ROI though Matthew because you and your dog alerted us to the fact that the lighting system had been subverted by people who wanted to sleep in the dark in the park little bit of vandalism and now people can run safely in the park again things like that you know the littlest piece of public engagement really do have value to the city well I think it's also helped that we've gotten we've had to get our feet wet so quickly since moving here my fiance my dog my cat and I because we're also planning a wedding this June and this is the postponed wedding from a couple years ago it's a long story I don't need to go into that right now but we've we've had a chance to meet local vendors very quickly and had to for the backyard wedding that we're going to put on and so we have some food trucks and some breweries come in to support that and it's a way to for us to better connect with the local vendors and community that are here too so we're really looking forward to that but it's certainly been a journey of trying to meet others and completely transform an event that I had planned for a completely different context two years ago so we can all be happy to congratulate Matthew and I don't know your wife's name future wife Eleonora Eleonora Eleonora my dog Pippin our cat Phoebe but they love the backyard it's been really nice to come to the Colorado climate here and that's something that we have to preserve and think about long-term right that's right we've we've seen this from floods to fires to high winds to droughts and that's that if we aren't keeping that in mind as some of these planning decisions are made then the backyard life that we came here for that other people I know love the farming practices that people still hold on to in some ways will will change fundamentally and and we have to be careful and thoughtful in what decisions we're making now that might impact that 10 years to come I mean right now we are struggling with oh fires are weather and they used to just be up in the mountains and we didn't really think about them now they're not now now we know that they can be on the plains they can threaten our cities and we need to get our act together in terms of being more cooperative about file fireproofing our environment out here on the flat fortunately that's something that was really attractive to us when we were moving here was we saw how Longmont was trying to rebuild and rebound from the floods of 2013 I have no personal anecdote from there I was on the other side of the country but it's very clear that that was taken seriously and flood resilience is really key in the same way that fire resilience and heat resilience will be going forward so that's encouraging to see and frankly gave us gave us a nice pause of like okay yeah I think I think we can handle this here and we think the city is ready for it so I I think we really have it together you know there's a lot of people who are seeing how interrelated everything is you know the floods and the fires are even interrelated and you know the aftermath of fire is a flood even when there's a drought which is really a frightening nexus but we've recovered from a flood we're recovering from a fire now and we're just growing the muscles that we need to be a sustainable city in the face of all of this change yeah and you know the interconnectivity is just put on put on a pedestal when you talk about kind of the future plans that the city has right so the more you build out from a city the more like you build on the outskirts of the city the more roads you need to build there the more streets you need to maintain the more accidents that'll happen the more roads you need to enforce and just that increases cost to you so there's an efficiency and a life that can happen and long much needs to define exactly what that's gonna mean for the small city that it is and not say oh we're gonna become New York City we're not never will be and don't want to be and that's not why we moved here so it's more of a question of how do we take the small city that long month is and continue to grow in a sustainable way that allows everyone to be able to get around easily safely and comfortably and make it a part of of the pleasure of living here as opposed to an inconvenience to be overcome absolutely so I guess that's to say challenge extended thank you for your service you're welcome Matthew thank you so much this has been a great talk and I hope everybody is is encouraged and excited and will engage in living in long month the way Matthew has in less than a year thanks Marsha pleasure to be here you welcome