Hello, welcome to Toffy TV, it's the Match Preview. Manchester United versus Everton 12-13 on Saturday at Old Trafford, another tough one. For the Blues, a ground that we don't win at very often, 2013, December, the last time I've won at Old Trafford, Brian Oviedo, with the winner, it's been a long time. Joing by Joe Thomas, it was the Echo-Everton Sports Correspondent, he's in the studio with us. Joe, difficult game against Manchester United, I still don't think they're getting the credit, they probably deserve really this season, they're obviously in the Champions League places, they've won again against Brentford mid-week. OK, they've had a couple of poor away performances recently on the field, obviously there was one Newcastle comfortably beat them at the weekend, but Eric Ten Hargs, he's got them pushing in the right direction and this is a difficult game for Everton, isn't it? Definitely moving in the right direction, generally this season, I think obviously we've already got a trophy under their belt haven't they, and I think the Champions League would have been the ambition, but when you look at how much ground they've made on Liverpool and Chelsea, and Tottenham as well, you have to look at it in the rounds and say that for all the difficulties they've had in recent weeks, Eric Ten Hargs has done an exceptional job there, he seems to have created a unity among them, he seems to have got the winners playing again and things like that, and had a really positive effect on that, obviously we could mark Rashford and what he's done at the club, it has been really impressive, but having said that, I think that they are also vulnerable, I don't know, I think Casamiro still is, I think we ever can get them at a point where they're playing three games in six days. The wind over Brentford the other night is probably helpful because it just cements them in that Champions League position and their thought process might be slightly up, so I think you've obviously got next week with the Europa League and stuff, so I think one thing that Sean Deitch has taught us is that relentless mentality, they're always in a game, so why can't I go there and get a point or is it better? Or Matin! It will be difficult, I think Ten Hargs dealt brilliantly with them this season, obviously they're Ronaldo issue, he just sort of chased them, he went head to head with one of the biggest names in Wales football still, and Ten Hargs was the winner there, he seemed to early on, I remember Walton with Brentford in the second game of the season, he got done 4-0 and people were questioning him after two years, and he was just saying he was really great. yw'r cyffredig, aros ei diwedd i'r cyfrifau. Mae'r cyfrifau sy'n meddwl ar gyfer y byddai'r llyfr yn y Llyfrgell, ond mae'r llyfr yn y Llyfrgell yn y Llyfrgell. Y Llyfrgell yn y Llyfrgell yn y Llyfrgell, Mae'n gyrfa'r gwahanol yng Nghymru, ond mae'n iawn'r gwrs cynghwil yng Nghymru ei sefydlu. Mae'n ei gwrs cynghwil yng nghymru, mae'r gwrs cynghwil yn gyrhaf yn y Llyfrgell. i'n ddweud i Gwldersen nid o'r ymddangos, yn ymddangos, ac mae'r ystod. Felly mae'n gwneud eich gwaith, ond, o'r ymddangos, o'r rhai gwaith o'r ymdangos, yn ymddangos, yn oed yn ymddangos, yn 40 ffwrdd ymddangos a'r ennill, ymddangos a'r ymdangos, ac yn Llyfrgell, mae'n gyflawni, yn ygafodd, ac nid oed yn ymddangos mewn gwahanol. Yn oed, mae'n gofio ar y cwmaint eich gael, Felly mae'n arbennwyd ddod i ddweud yma chi'n gweithio i ddweud yma yma? Felly mae'n gweithio i ddweud, yn fwy gwybod y'r problemau, ond mae'r ddweud yma efo'r ddakori. Rwy'n meddwl y gallwn ar hyn ymddangos, ac rwy'n meddwl i'r ddweud yma chi'n meddwl i'r traffa i ddechrau'r llaw'r ddweud.  Felly, y siaradau enig yn ysgrifio am y baith o'r ffordd sian yr adrodd, i ffraith rydw i arfer teimlo. Fyddwn i'n edrych sydd ar gyfer sian, yr fynd i'r cyhoedd yw'r hawl yn cael ei cyfnod armpannu ar gyfer y cyflirend yng Nghymru. Rydw i'n weithio yn iawn i'r rhaid. Mae'n fyrdd iawn yn gweithio, ac mae'n gwneud i'r cyd-dweithio. Mae'n gwneud o bobl o'i wneud. Dwi'n cael ei gwneud i'r cyllidau rwyf. Mae'n dweud o bobl o'r cyllidau rwyf, a'n gwybod i ni'n golygu. Mae'n cyd-dweud o bobl o'r cyllidau i ni, ac mae'n ei wneud i gael eu bod yn cael ei wneud. Mae'n cael ei wneud i ni i gael i'r cyllidau i ni'n gweithio. Mae'n cael ei gafu i ni i gael i ni. Gwam y mynd i'w hyn yn cael ei meddwl. Gweithio mae'n ddim yn y cyffaint, o fanyodol e chael gwneud o'r golygu byddoedd. a oed yn dweud o gyffin oherwydd iawn iddyn nhw hefyd, gan Chelsie, mae anhygoel i'n meddwl ar hyn gyfaint. Wydau ychydig yn edrych yn gwybod arall, mae'n braf i ddeallol i'n does ar ei bod. Rwy'n meddwl yn nos gan oed. O fe allanodd a'r hyn y dyfodol am hynny, mae'n gyffin o'r Chelsie, a Newport, and Spurs and United have already taken. I'm beating for that. I'm beating them back to four games, aren't I? So I don't think dice should be scared going into this game. I don't think there'll be any fear from the players. I think there will be a sense of try and see this game as an opportunity. But I also think, from a wider perspective, we also need to play around and say everything could play very well in this game and still lose. Absolutely. That wouldn't necessarily be to fought dice for anyone else. It would. My table might not look great, but it wouldn't be a catastrophe. Dyna, mae'r mhwysel, ac mae'r dyfynu wrthausgwladau yn gwirionedd gan ffordd. Mae'r mhwysel, rydych chi'n rhai ffordd, lle rhan o'n bach yn gweithio'r mhwysel. Mae'r Yngrifodd Gweithlu, lle'n bach yn gwyrdd ymgwrs. Nid yw'r Gweithio'n cysylltu, nhw'n ei wneud gael y gwirionedd. Mae'r pwysel, yn gweithio'n bwysel, lle mae'n bach yn y Gweithl i'n gweithlol i'r ymlawr pwysel. Yna gweithio'n ei fawr arnyn i'r ffordd i gael Gwlad yn ymddangos. Ond yn fifio'n Constitution, credu'n gweithio hynny yn son. Ond mae'n rhan o'r cymraff mewn yn Cymru o'r llunio. Mae'n cyfreilydd yw'r cynnig. Mae ymddangos iaith yn ddigwydd i Permyr i Gweithio'r Gwlad. O'r cyfrifiad yn roi'r gei yna, felly mae'n bwysig yn gweld dod yr bwysig yma. Os wnaeth gennym, oes gwneud â'i ddeuysgrifol. Mae'r gwerth ar hyn yn eich gael y deunydd i weld a judgementio, oherwydd mae'r gwerthau o'r lluniau yn cael eu bwrdd, mydd yna iaith y mae'n holl o'r ddorol. Mae'n mynd i gael yn hwnnw, mae'n ddechrau'n gŵr i'n ddatblygu. Fe o'r holl o'r cyfeirio o'r ddareis o'i annusol, a oes dwi'n ganlyniad yn gyfer eu maen nhw. Oherwydd mae'n gynhyrch o'r ddareis o'r ddareis o'r ddareis o'r rhaid oherwydd, gyda'i ddyshwyd houra mewn y FFACOCFI 40? Cypetulated, so mae'n fawr adeilad. Haid draw beth yw'r ddaliadau o'r area yma sydd wedi gwneud i'ch gilydd a phoswyddo i gael. Yn ryw fyddai'n prif, roeddwn'i yn holl o'i fynd i'w arry. Yn y gilydd i'r sialau, yno'r pethau pethau hefyd... ..mwyaf o'r sefydlu cities. Mae'r 12-30s, mae'r old traffic yn perthig. Rwy'n meddliad i'w meddliad a pwysgolio. ac mae'n falch i chi'n mynd i ddechrau yma y gallwn yn dda yn ymgyrch, ond fydd hynny yn dweud yr hyn, i wneud am y dyfu'r trainee, eto fe wnaeth Majesty Slyw yn ymgyrch yn lŵn i ymwyletiol. Llyfyn ymr moves utilan i gweithio'r ddechrau. Mae'n fawr mewn cyhoedd gyda'r cyfrynghau a'r ganlŷ, yn oed i'r ddweud yr ysgol, ac mae'n gwneud i'r ddechrau'r ddechrau, Dech chi'n cael ei bod yma, mae'n meddwl yma yn gwneud yn ymgol. Mae'n meddwl i gael ei gota. Yma rhywbeth gwybod ein bodeso, ac mae'n ran eich opposition yn Rathiriau Cymru. Mae'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl yn eich bodys yma, fel y byddwch yma, a ele os ydych yn meddwl, mae'n meddwl bys, mae'n meddwl. Byddai'n meddwl i'r cyffredin, mae'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl i'n meddwl. Y beth, mae'n meddwl i'n meddwl i'r meddwl i'r meddwl. I did use a word in the press conference today that I had an usual and he said that the substitutes were activated, so that's in your dice bingo, save that one, save that one, come drop. He'd actually, he won 2-0 against Manchester United with Burnley in January 2020 at Old Trafford and he'd become the first English manager to win away games in the Premier League against United with two different clubs. O wel. So dwi'n hi'r gof efo'n fath o'n fath o garae'n fyddai. I didn't make it free. War o'r Philip, that would be for him to go and do that. Just having a look at how everything lined up against Tottenham newton, it's obviously just got to be a change. Abdelai de Corrie is suspended, we were in Pickford, Coleman Keane, Tarkovsky, Goughry at left back of Wobie de Corrie on that. And I've missed the Trisha Gayle there in the field and then Damari Grey up front. You've just mentioned it before, the Abdelai de Corrie send an offer is a huge blow forever and obviously we wish Harry Kane the best in his recovery with that incident the other night. I think it's just a bit of wind when past his cheek. And that is one of the most dangerous injuries you can get in football. A bit of wind when you pass your cheekbone can put you out for weeks. What do you think Sean Dyche will do? Alex of Wobie could be moved inside, but that to me almost seems like he will be changing two or three things and he doesn't strike me as that kind of manager. I think he looks more likely to just go, it's Tom Davis or it's James Garner. I like the idea of moving and it will be inside. I like the idea because I think the problem that Evan have got is... That becomes three changes. It does, it does. The problem Evan have got is that they can't be too much of a threat from out wide because they've got a target man to aim for. So you can call the crosses into the box that you want without some of that. You've got Damari Grey up top and it becomes difficult. Obviously you can have Ella Sims there instead. The strength of Abdelai de Corrie in terms of what he's done for Evan is from an offensive perspective is the fact that he's helped to get him up the pitch through the middle. I think Alex Wobie will do slightly differently. I mean, you look at those first 15 games of the season, I think Alex Wobie had some of my six assists in a goal and he did it from that. I think that's where his most effective position is and you can move Grey out wide.  But I don't think that's what he is going to do. That's what I do but I'm not a Premier League football man. I'm barely competent on football manager. You didn't think that Betty might end up managing a French, right? I think what we're probably more likely to see is when a Garner or Davies come in. I don't know who that will be. We know he's a fan of James Garner. I've watched him a lot when he was in Forrest after last season after he got dismissed from the Burnley job. He brought James Garner on the other day as well. He's getting more minutes, getting more exposure to the first team. He got minutes from England under 21s as well so you suspect that. Obviously if Garner is a bit of a deeper player then you still have the problem of who's going to play that more advanced role. I think that the danger is if you put Garner in that role that you then try and do it with O'nana. I think we've seen that O'nana doesn't work that way. Early on in his reign, Sean asked him about this. He said he definitely doesn't see O'nana as a Falani type player. I think perhaps against his better instincts he played in for a couple of games a little bit. Arsenal away being one of them where he pushed him up and they tried long balls towards him. O'nana isn't really that strong in the air, certainly not from that type of perspective. I hope he doesn't do that and I don't think he will do that. Is there an argument to say that without bringing Ellis Sims in, and I'm not going against whether Ellis should, I mean it'd be harsh for the kid, a start at Chelsea away, a start at Liverpool away, and a start at Manchester United away. Do you think there's any possibility if he wanted to put O'nana into that central role and he works hard and he can press high and help Damari Greil through the middle that Nathan Patterson plays in front of Sheamus Coleman on the right to try and negate Manchester United down the side. Rather than go right, we move O'nana, we pull Greil from where he is and we play Ellis Sims. We leave Damari Greil 1v1 because he's no good taking it into his chest but he likes to run down channels and O'nana O'nana might be able to feed them.  I wonder if that might be one option. Possibly, it's not one that I'd thought of but I'm not going to say it. I'd be surprised, I'd be surprised. Patterson wasn't even in the squad against Spears, so we know he's getting close to fitness but I'd be surprised to see him straight into the starting line-up. Obviously he's a player that Sean Dice hasn't seen at all. He hasn't played a single minute under Sean Dice yet. We know that he likes players he can trust, so people he knows what he can do with. So again, I'd be slightly surprised. Let's be honest, there's going to be some, Davies. I wonder if it might be some, Davies. I feel like the odds are it's either going to be Garner or Davies and I wonder if Davies has performed in a slightly more advanced midfield role, box-to-box in the past. Davies has had quite a lot of minutes off the bench from Dice. He did miss a glorious opportunity to win this fixture last year and he passed it to Gary Meiner who scored, who was just offside if Tom might have been able to take another touch and smash it beyond there. We could be talking about that away. He's missed a few opportunities this season as well. I think the one-on-one against Bournemouth in the cup, the header at Anfield. Oh, yeah. Then it's better they tailor me for Tom Davies' brace. Exactly. I wonder if it might end up being Tom Davies. I think James Garner's probably the favourite to start. It just depends what that then does to the rest of the balance on the side really because if you're not moving away, being in the middle, then you've kind of risk having to play a nana fair up top and I don't really think that... Unless he thinks James Garner can play higher up and maybe he's led past his group. Of course he has shot.  No, not after that shot the other night. Not after that shot the other night. It's a really, really awkward absence for Everton. And it's funny how it's developed this way because obviously 10 weeks ago or 12 weeks ago when you've got Frank Lampard, he's on his way out of Dleidicora and now all of a sudden he's a band for free games. Would you almost argue that Everton would have coped easier if it would have been am ydyw o'r nana'r yw'r ben sy'n defnyddio? It's a good question. Because o'r nana, and he's a good, don't get me wrong, he's very good footballer, does well with Garner, but he isn't the one breaking into the box and getting goals with it. No, I think you're probably right. I think obviously we know that Everton's biggest problem under any manager this season has been scoring goals and it's been even getting to a point where they provide some sort of attacking threat because it's not just, you know, you can create lots of opportunities and just not score, and still stronger score goals. The problem with Everton for so many parts of this season is the fact that creating the opportunities in the first place has been a problem and therefore teams get comfortable pushing up against because you know there's no threat whatsoever. You know, decorating the role that he's taken up has kind of changed that and obviously it's not just decorating, it's what happens with the players around and the changing mentality and tactical approach that Dyche has brought with it but you know it is a really awkward conundrum for him to solve now, really awkward. I do think there's some legs in what you're saying there about perhaps Amadou Anana whilst he's one of the few stars in Everton's squad and okay, we haven't necessarily seen it as much in recent games although I thought he played well against Tottenham. I thought that there was an opportunity for him to really grab that game by the scruff of the neck. He didn't quite take it, albeit just as he was doing, he just said he perhaps was growing into the game, so maybe he didn't, but yeah, perhaps it would have been slightly easier to kind of deal with an address again or an Amadou Anana injury or suspension that would be able to decorate which again just shows you how far decor has come under Sean Dyche. So yeah, it really is a peculiar way and that's it. I wonder, we've seen the same formation every single time from Sean Dyche so I'm not sure that he necessarily looks to change formation for this game. I think the reality is you probably end up with a square peg in a round hole or you end up with Tom Davis playing in that position and it may well be Tom Davis. Yeah, I think it probably will. Let's have a look at Manchester United seeing that played against Bremford on 1-0 in mid-week. The Hayer, Diego Dallat, Vorran, Maartner, Shoredair, Backfwrn McThomney, Shrebitet, Midfield, Fernandez, Anthony Wonser, Jadon Stran, Sheldri Oedd yn Markis, Rashford Trunymiddl, threats all over the gaff and Manchester United haven't gone off to be very wary of that and that's why Sean Dyche probably will just stick to what he knows and what the players have drilled and well faced right now and it's whoever's tasked with going where they are unless he decides to be massively radical and put Ellis Sims through the middle of the Marey Grey just off and then goes. We're going 4-4 to him. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see if he did that. It's an option. It's Tom Davis. Yo, let's leave it there. You look at that and you look at the threat will be there's a significant threat from out wide and when you look at everything that hasn't done when that's been the case for opposition with Leeds, with Arsenal, with Liverpool, then it was quite clear that one of the reasons, that was one of the reasons by Neal and it won't be out wide because of the cover they can offer to their fullbacks. That's why I was saying that. And therefore you think it will probably be the case that it won't move into the middle of the style and some protection against whoever it is that's coming down the United Left. Let's have a look at the danger man we've picked out, obviously. It is Marcus Rashford who's been in brilliant form this season. 28 games in the Premier League, 15 goals, three assists. He's averaging 2.6 shots per game. He's always a threat. He's a brilliant player. I wish we had them. He's won it but we'll have to obviously keep an eye on Scuddle because it's a lovely goal actually against Brentford. It was a well-wake goal from Manchester United and they finished it with a lovely volley show. They'll have to be on the metal to stop him getting on the Scuddle. He's a match winner, isn't he? And they've got a couple of match winners. The reality is having to keep them all quiet if they want to do something. So it goes without saying, doesn't it? They've got to keep on and keep an eye on Marcus Rashford. But if they can cut the supply to him, if they can stay compact in the middle, you look at that. That's not the biggest side in the world. So that plays forever and will clearly be really, really helpful. The hay hasn't been the best playing out from the back recently. So if they can get their press right, they can perhaps force him into playing it long and then if it becomes about trying to win the ball in the air against that main forward line, it's a completely different story. If you can force the hay to play in long and they're going to find Sancho or Anthony or Fernandez or Rashford in the air, it's going to lose. Obviously, you could have leg force up front and then that would make Michael Keane and Tarkovsky's job a lot harder then. Tarkovsky, you know, will know him from training and everything going to be only last year. Tarkovsky will know him as well. It's going to be a very tough task for Evan at the weekend. We know that I think the thing will be key for Evan, will be the performance. Can we continue to put in solid performance as if we can, that will help us over the rest of it. You know, we could go there, get a fluky win and then Manchester United can win all the rest of the games if they want to. We need these three points massively but obviously we know it's going to be a difficult game. Like you said, Joe, Evan could go and play really well and still lose the game. We have to not lose the momentum we've got or the feeling that we're in at the moment which is that of resilience and the full-on game the week later will be a chance to bounce back. I think, Evan, if Evan were to lose bearing in mind the other fixtures, there's a reasonable chance they'll be in the bottom three of their game. I think the wider perspective will be crucial. You have to look back at what Evan has achieved on the dice so far and say, well, they're a lot of positive. Go into last eight games and suggest they can get out of trouble. I think what is important is if they were to lose us, it doesn't end up being an arsenal, a very kind of scenario where you end up in a situation where they've just had the stuff and knocked out them. Because one thing we've seen from Evan's side since is the resilience that the dice brought into them. And I think we don't want to end up in a situation where you're questioning that again at this stage in the relegation running. And similarly, at Anfield, although that was only 2-0, it took 86 minutes for Evan to show when he was fighting that game. Again, I think Everton could afford to lose this game and it not be critical to them. But what they can't afford is end up in a situation where anybody's left questioning their fight or their resilience. And the other thing as well is the goals. Before that arsenal game, we were in, we were OK. In the game. And we ended up with a minus four on our goal difference. And goal difference could be huge down there. We've seen this week Westamkin see five at home against Newcastle. Let's help Everton massively. It's pulled what was six or seven goals back to two or three. So if Everton, and I'm not saying he will actually think Everton might niggard's row here at the weekend. But if Everton were to lose the game, don't be hammered because the goal difference is huge. Try and retain as much momentum as possible for going into what is a massive game but we should go after it. Di gael. Os yw o'r angen stratega bobl yn game is a huge game. Big thanks to Jo for coming in. Make sure you check out his articles on the echo. He's done some stale and stuff lately. Keep carrying that fight, Jo. Keep questioning everything. Let us know what you think in the comments section below as you see this game going. There is a difficult one for Everton. You know what it is, but you've got to win some time against the team that beat you most times you play against them. Let us know in the comments section below and make sure you give the video a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't and if you want to become a toffee TV. Premier Member, the link is in the description. 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Member Statements. Member for Nicobelt. Thank you, Speaker. I continue to receive numerous messages from patients and their family about the lack of care from the home and community care support services. Patients are receiving below standard level and quality of care from overwork and underpaid home care nurses and PSW, not to mention the multiple missed visits weekly. A year and a half ago, this government rushed through their bill 175. The goal was to connecting people to home and community care act. Well, what did they connect, Mr. Speaker? The same legacy private for-profit providers that underpaid their staff short-change patient care. The result is that no one came for Mrs. X for days after her surgery. A special need child in my writing cannot attend school because there is no provider available to help them at school. Not to mention Mrs. Innocente's mom, who is very medically fragile, but cannot get confirmation that the home care worker is vaccinated. When these families approach the government to make a complaint, they say, oh, bring your complaint to the providers. When the providers bring their complaint, nothing happens. The government funds home care. It is responsible for this important part of our health care system, but yet this program fails more people than it helps daily. It has to change. Thank you, Speaker. Thank you very much. Next, the member for Mrs. Saga Malton. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a pleasure to rise today to share the story of a true inspiration. A spiritual leader, professor of medicine, cardiovascular surgeon, philanthropist, a lifelong teacher and priest, Dr. Budindanath Dubey. His contribution includes building Anand Bhavan, a home for seniors and Montesary School in Ontario, providing shelter to orphan girls in India, offering free dialysis to the patients in need at Dubey Medical Centre and providing computers to youth in Guyana. In 1993, Dr. Dubey was awarded the Order of Ontario and Queens Golden and Diamond Jubilee Award in Canada in 2012, guided by the principal of Vasudev Kutumkam. The world is one family. Dr. Dubey has played a vital role in promoting Hinduism's core teachings while advocating for religious diversity and inclusiveness that make our province beautiful. He is founder of Vishnu Mandir in Richmond Hill, a 27,000 square feet facility, features a Canadian Museum of Indian Civilization, embodying the principle of Ahimsa non-violence. Dr. Dubey, abjiyo hajaar usal. Thank you for being the champion for Sanatam Dhan. Thank you for leading the path for us today and for the generations to come. Mr. Speaker, I would like to express my heartfelt gratitude to Dr. Dubey for strengthening our province through his passion for community service and community well-being. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Member statements? The Member for York Southwestern. Thank you, Speaker. I rise this morning on behalf of the decent and hardworking people of York Southwestern. Recently, I hosted a virtual town hall on iCare with residents and iCare providers from York Southwestern. I heard from residents whose children cannot get their eyes tested and from seniors who cannot get eye testers that could literally save their vision. This is unacceptable and unnecessary situation is due to this government's inability to negotiate a fair deal with optometrist. When will this government stop their dangerous games that are only putting children and seniors vision at risk and negotiate in a serious and fair manner? Louisa, who participated in our town hall, said, an eye coat. It is going to cost the health care system 10 times as much for staff down the road that is not being diagnosed. Once you do it at a later stage, it is too late. Michael stated an eye coat. The situation is urgent and my long term health is being directly affected. The government needs to get back to the table and address this issue quickly so that people like me can get on with their lives. What does the government have to say to Louise and Michael and when will they take responsibility and stop pointing fingers and finally bring the fairness that optometrist deserve and the fairness that seniors like Louisa and Michael needs in our community of York Southwestern? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Member Statements and Member for Bradford Branch. Thank you, Speaker. I am happy to rise in this great house today to talk a little about the largest single employer in my home riding a Bradford branch. Ferrero is a company that is near and dear to many people in Ontario and indeed all over the world. As a matter of fact, by the beloved high quality products that they make every single day. Last Thursday, the Premier and I were given a tour of Ferrero's spectacular Bradford production plant where they make Nutella, Tic Tac, Ferrero Rocher, and Nutella and Go. The sweet smell of freshly roasted hazelnuts and chocolate, a combination put together by the company's founders Pietro, Giovanni, and Piero Ferrero will always be etched in my memory. We were most impressed by the quality levels that far exceed the industry standards so much so that in 2019 Ferrero opened its own on-site cocoa processing plant in Bradford so they could process raw cocoa beans directly from country of origin to ensure freshness on their very exacting standards. So the next time you dip into that jar of Nutella in your kitchen pantry or share a Ferrero Rocher over the upcoming holidays, know that it was made by Canadian workers with the freshest ingredients by some of the finest people in Bradford brand. To everyone working at Ferrero on behalf of the province of Ontario, thank you. Thank you Speaker. The next statement, the member for Brampton East. Thank you Speaker. Four out of five family members were murdered in a terrorist white supremacist attack earlier this year in London, Ontario. Fayaz Asal, a boy of nine, was the only survivor from this attack and he was put into serious condition from this terrorist attack. This is just one of the many acts of hatred that have recently targeted Muslims in Ontario.  How Muslim women were afraid to leave their home wearing their hijab. How Muslim families had made the terrible decision to not go for evening walks wearing their traditional clothing at a fear that they too would be attacked. And that's why the calls from the Muslim community after this terrorist attack were so clear. Yes, we must condemn this violence but the time for words alone are over. We need systemic change to challenge and combat Islamophobia and hate in Ontario. And that's why the Ontario MP has partnered with the National Council of Canadian Muslims to put forward the Our London Family Act. To make sure that Muslims again are never afraid to walk the streets of Ontario. And that's why I'm calling on the Conservative government to do the right thing and to pass this act as soon as possible. Thank you. The next statement, the member for York Centre. Speaker, I was born and spent the first nine years of my life in Communist Soviet Union. So when I alleged that the government is engaged in conduct, one would expect from the Communist regime, I don't do so lightly. But judge for yourself. You're going to withdraw? Withdraw. Former Chief of Staff, Dean French, tried to appoint his son's friend and wife's cousin to lucrative positions abroad for which they weren't qualified. That's textbook communism. The government forced private businesses to hang a sticker containing political speech at their place of business. That's communism. The government tried to put itself above the law by giving itself absolute immunity from litigation with the Crown Liability Proceedings Act. That's communism. With Bill 218, the government rewrote negligence law applicable to long-term care homes in the middle of a trial, making it impossible for families to get closure and justice. That's communism. The government invoked an oath with standing clause, the nuclear option, to overrule a court decision for the first time in Ontario's history, and over what? Over elections legislation that helps the government get re-elected. That's communism. And now the government continues to vote. The next statement. Member for Oakville. Thank you, Speaker. November is Women's Abuse Prevention Month. This is a month for all of us to stand with women and girls against any form of abuse. Abuse comes in many forms, whether emotional, physical, sexual, and we need to be aware of the signs. The number of reported incidents is unfortunate and shocking. Half of women aged 16 have experienced some form of violence. There are outstanding organisations concentrated on supporting young women and girls who are trying to leave their situations. In Halton, Savis and the Halton's Women's Place are helping survivors by providing a safe and comfortable environment with dedicated resources to overcome the emotional trauma that has been experienced. These two organisations also provide proactive educational sessions to the general public with the key goal of prevention through education. On November 25, from 7 to 8 p.m., the Halton Women's Place will be hosting a free education event virtually with the topic community conversation of the role of males in ending gender-based violence. As an aside, I did want to mention I made a contribution to the Halton Women's Place in memory of my great friend, Andrew McMurtry's mother, Teresa, who passed away on November 1. Teresa was a great woman and a loving mother who will be missed greatly. I couldn't think of a better way to honour Teresa's legacy than by supporting the Halton Women's Place. Savis and Halton's Women's Place are truly changing the lives of women and girls, and I can thank you enough for the meaningful work you are doing. Thank you, Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My riding of Brampton North has a hospital which is the only hospital in Brampton which is a full-fledged hospital, Brampton Civic Hospital, which cares for over 700,000 people in Brampton. Earlier this year, the government promised an additional hospital in Brampton. What we've learned since, Mr. Speaker, is that this government is providing only an additional wing to Peel Memorial Hospital. This is not enough. On top of that, the government has promised 250 beds for Peel Memorial. We need 850 beds in order to bring Brampton up to the Ontario average. I'm applauding. I want this government. I want Brampton South. I want Brampton West to listen to me. We need a full-fledged hospital. We need an additional hospital in Brampton. What's happening right now is incredible, Mr. Speaker. We are seeing many people in Brampton going to Georgetown or other places in the GTA just to get care. Right now, the hospital which we have at Peel Memorial will not be able to service people who have heart attacks, people who have strokes, people who are cancer patients. So this is why I'm calling for this government to stop what's going on in Brampton. We need a full-fledged hospital. We need better healthcare. And I wish this government would stand up and listen and do the right thing. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, the government is investing approximately $350,000. To increase mental health supports for post-secondary students at Durham College and my riding at Ontario Tech University. This funding, Speaker, is part of an additional $8.7 million for Ontario post-secondary institutions announced in the 2021 Ontario Economic Outlook and Fiscal Review Billed Ontario. Importantly, Speaker, this investment builds on the government's record supports to address mental health and addiction challenges from the 2021 budget for a total of $28.5 million in the 2021-222 mental health supports at Ontario post-secondary institutions. Speaker, Ontario's publicly assisted colleges, universities and Indigenous institutes play an important role in supporting the mental health needs of Ontario's post-secondary students, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic. Speaker, our government is committed, absolutely committed to protecting our progress against the COVID-19 pandemic and providing mental health supports for those in WIPI and other parts of the region of Durham who need them. Another example of this government listening carefully to residents in the region of Durham. That concludes our member's statements for this morning.


Welcome to the RF Elements unlicensed podcast. I am Caleb Nour and this is Tossos Galifianakis. What's going on Tossos? What's happening Caleb? Hi everybody. I'm Tossos. I'm gonna I want to keep doing this until you get visibly angry with I'm curious. I'm curious though. I mean Galifianakis sounds Greek. Is he Greek? I have no idea. I mean it sounds like it could be you know Bonapolis, you know Galifianakis and all this other stuff. So maybe he's Greek who knows that that'd be interesting Maybe maybe one of our listeners can look it up and let us know if I'm right or not I don't know. I know he lives on a farm in North Carolina, which is close enough to being topical for me, so What's gotten what's going on this week man, what's happening? Ah, you know Actually been pretty busy this week a lot of planning going on right now You know whisper Palooza's right around the corner, you know, so I'm getting excited for Vegas hotels booked airline tickets booked We're getting our cool booth Set up and all the fun things that we're gonna do once in Vegas So yeah whisper Palooza's definitely taking up the majority of of my week with work related stuff Yeah, it's an affair for sure now. We'll be on the back wall So when you guys get in just go ahead and stream on pass all those other folks from that back wall We'll be real hard to miss you'll you'll know we're there. I promise you so you'll definitely know you'll definitely know like I said Yeah, you can miss all those other vendors and just come straight back to the RF elements booth for sure So well cool. Cool. Yeah, I just been busy here doing normal and with day-to-day stuff. I'm just trying to live my life, man so Got it meant.  I got the grocery store late last night I'm like, all right. I got to get my weekend. Biddle squared away. So and I like to do it by myself So I don't have somebody going. We don't need all this. So It's definitely a different shopping experience with yourself, you know or with other people Yeah, so if I have to make three loops around the store by myself, no problem If I have to do it in tow. I'm just in like pure rage mode. So totally Totally just bogus. But anyways, no, so I fill up my basket With my meats and all this stuff. I'm gonna do some experimenting this weekend on some things got my beverages all loaded up Roll into the cart and I'm already agitated one because there's just like nothing there The meat is hard to find everything is way expensive and like random stuff I couldn't hardly find any mustard Like there's just so many shortages and all these shenanigans going on with all this pandemic nonsense and the after effects Then a check out.  And I'm looking back at the beverages and meat.  Totally not sad and miserable at all. So it's all good This 12 pound brisket's not for me.  Yeah, all this stuff's like twice what it used to call. So there's just yeah It's it's agitating but we'll persevere. Hopefully something's looking a little better around the corner And we get through all this doom and gloom that that we're seeing with all this nonsense, but the doom Doom actually that leads into our segway segway segway So Anyone on the popular whist sort of channels whist talking stuff like that You've probably noticed there's a lot of doom talk going on and not your normal day-to-day catastrophe that we're dealing with Equipment shortage of storm season. I mean hurricanes, you know, these are all super serious things But you know, we're used to this sort of thing. It just seems like there's just so much doom doom Uh in the industry with the whist going y'all whisper done. We're gonna die and The the whole conversation is just kind of bananas You know, whether it be 5g or starlink starlink being the big the big doom and gloom Don't get me started on the 5g thing. Yeah I'm literally going to get you started on the 5g thing here in the sex I just like making you mad on a friday, but uh Or it's the fiber whether it be people putting in their own fiber or you know The government's putting all this fiber in the ground and it's going to kill everybody's industry or wisdoms like Y'all calm down. Yeah I've definitely definitely seen lately not just this week specifically But yeah, you could definitely see it building up and there's been a lot of chatter and talk back and forth You know, there's people in multiple camps as far as yeah We're we're definitely in for it and we're done and then there's the people like us Right now that feel like we're just getting started, you know, so I'm definitely not in the doom and gloom camp at all. I'm not really worried about it much at all I mean, you know in the last what 15 20 years we've been doing this.  It was ymax That was doom Yeah, um a dsl before then, you know early 2000s man big bell is going to roll dsl everywhere to every Everywhere everywhere Every pudunk shack. Yeah, that didn't work out. Um, we had ymax, uh, the cable companies You know and cable companies started pushing internet big and then when doc's history came out and you know Hell my connection at the house went from 30 megs to 300 You know and they're like, oh the what's industries? And it is stronger than ever and competing with these cable companies in a lot of places So we've absolutely we've been down this road and we've seen this So I thought it'd be fun to kind of talk about the current Uh end of industry doom articles happening right now and get your take on us. Who would you think so Let's start with 5g. I know how much 5g you've had recently. How much fun? So a lot of love. I got a lot of love for 5g I think there's one of the wrong fingers you threw up so So and it's it's not really, you know, it's not Verizon It's not AT&T or the smaller providers saying we're going to deliver rural 5g internet to the house and sort of all the world's problems Right. It's you know, the tech media the tech media is absolutely awful And then, you know, everyone's got to post all their stuff on LinkedIn and all these articles driving clicks I mean, it's the bane of our existence right now Is this click driven media presence that we live through all marketing.  So I live in the austin area, right? So we're a tech savvy town You would think, you know, million people in the the surrounding area that that's pretty well populated And you know, I drive into austin And first, you know, never mind the speeds the connectivity sucks, right? So it's like the latency is down or the network is just not robust enough where if i'm in 5g mode Most of the time I, you know, open up facebook or whatever app i'm using and it just it just sits there like there's I have five bars, right?  I've had t-mobile now for How long how long have I been bitching about this now like a month and a half two months? Yeah something like that Yeah, so for literally the last Month and a half maybe two months that I've had t-mobile the fastest 5g speeds that I've gotten was like 50 megs Right, and this is in austin. This is in round rock.  I went up to dallas, right? We were just in dallas I had when I first got it same crap, right? So, you know 50 100 meg maybe and it's a whole another story Do you really need 100 meg to your phone anyway, right? But I just don't see it. The stability is Horrible horrible, right? So again the connections are not there I basically had to go into my phone and turn 5g off, right? So I basically run my phone in 4g lte mode and it is fantastic. It is fantastic I get 30 megs consistently Sometimes up to 50 megs depending on where I'm going the connections always there The latency is you know fairly low And I really don't have any problems so 5g.  Yeah, you're gonna get a gig. I've seen some posts a gig two gig It's you know retarded anyway, but yeah, sure it's possible, but it's not gonna happen everywhere I mean, it's just it's it's a freaking joke, man Yeah, it's it's definitely overblown and I can I can hear the quick clickbait warriors right now just twitching But you know, well, I got two and a half gigs in the the airport I'm like, that's cool because that's where they deploy that because that's the like warrior people are Going to check it out and see it and stuff like that. Exactly. It's again, it's it's marketing That was actually a great point. You made theirs, right? They strategically put it in places to get people when they're not really thinking they're just passing through They see it. I mean when they when the 5g kicks in and it's working boom That's just marketing right there. They just sold somebody, right? And somebody's gonna be like, well, this is amazing You know, but they'll never come on later when it doesn't work They just forget about it move on and their life goes on So so you see all this positive stuff and and you really don't see the negative stuff That's why I've taken it, you know upon myself To go out there and kind of push what I've been seeing as I travel and I travel a lot, you know Where I'm at Put up that speed test and show how horrible it is in most cases the 4g lte supersedes the speeds and reliability of the 5g connection So 5g for me is The top says official things there I mean and a lot of us now, I mean they're deploying like mad anybody that's on these tower groups Or knows anyone in the tower industry knows what the deployments are and you know what? There's probably going to be a lot of backfill and it's going to work a lot better I mean the transition from 3g to 4g definitely took a bit but you know for most places Especially in the city is it was relatively ubiquitous. So, you know, you're going to see a lot more stable But my whole point is like, okay. Yeah with enough money and time It's probably going to work and you'll have microcells on lamp poles and stuff in the city and ultra wideband kind of everywhere You know, that's fantastic But that does not solve the issue of the rural broadband, you know, sort of dilemma because It's still in the end a physics problem and a money problem So even though that funny money definitely exists everywhere right now And we'll just kind of wavy hand that for the time being but you know, it's a physics problem. I'm Three, I don't know. I forget how far I am from my tower and I'm just on the outskirts of charlotte So I'm not that far away and you know, they bumped up, you know Our speeds and stuff here.  There's not enough spectrum And like they're not going to want to load the capacity because those rural big cells the same way we talk about You know using our sectors in these rural areas where your clients are spread out. It makes sense Well, that's what they're doing. They're doing a very similar thing They're not putting the same architecture in that they're putting an ultra wideband thing in the heart of the Atlanta airport So two completely different worlds And you're just never going to have the capacity out there, uh, and they're not going to spend the money for the load So, you know in terms of doom for the wisp industry not going to happen Now is it something they should consider and think about? Yeah, and we'll we'll sort of Get to that at the very end so and honestly like Let's just look at from this perspective too, which is something that recently happened to me. I mean Just because let's say 5g does have some penetration into The rural areas. It's not the end of the world, right? I mean, I know many wisps who are deploying for glte who are Buying, you know a wholesale bandwidth from at&t whatever and they're still making money on it Right. So you can also resell that service, right?  I mean you could resell that service as well And still make some money out of it and let at&t worry about provisioning the network or whoever it is You know, you know when when the service goes down and they have to you know, worry about building out all that capacity So it's really it's about, you know turning those lemons into lemonade.  That's it's called business there All right. So that's 5g. Uh, listen now talk about starling kind of a kind of a hot topic I'd say I don't know. I don't know if it's starling specifically or if it's Elon musk, you know, it's like This is like a double-edged sword.  I'm not a huge fan of the man And uh, so maybe that's that drives my other thing, but let's let's put that let's put that aside We're not going to be biased. Let's talk about the technology. Go ahead. I mean Where's that going? So it's it's funny though because you know, I'm doing I'm like, I should catch up on some data points Like I keep aware, but I don't track it There's some folks that straight up live for this stuff. Whether it be the pure fanboys or the anti fanboys I don't haters. I guess whatever the kids are calling it nowadays Charles. Yeah, I don't know either side is equally annoying in my book And it's very difficult to find relatively unbiased information. There's just so much spin spin spin on everything But there is there is I was looking at this and I figured let's talk quick about the tech and then we'll talk about the economic side Maybe quick impacts, uh, and then just height beast in general. So Easiest to look at is the tech so You know, there's not a lot of public information out there But there are some things that we know right now. There's about 1600 some live satellites in the constellation They've got clearance for 4000 satellites to get their worldwide coverage I think the they're saying is something any like 42 000 satellites to get more ridiculous ridiculous amounts.  We'll just focus on our area, you know The last set of numbers I looked at was showing that with the current phased array setup that they're using You're going to have about four gigs of capacity and a five mile radius or something like that Which sounds like a lot Until you look in a high density area How many houses that could cover even a medium density area, you know and now with You know that that butter gets spread a little thin there So, you know this it's not like they're gonna drop a gig again to every house in the whole world Like it doesn't physically scale like that. Yeah, they'll be taking advances and everything but It ain't gonna work. So and this is why I mean and they say that too. They're not focusing on the density They're not focusing on the city is there they're focusing mainly on rural but Even in a relatively rural area, I mean, there's a lot of folks that you can split in that radius Now my my numbers may be off a factor here and there's been a little bit but I mean, especially if everyone thinks oh, you know, I went to red it and look at the the star lake sub And you know, all these people are getting 250 mags and I'm like, yeah, because they're the first one on that that area But they're the only one on that In some cases, you know, I mean a lot of it you look at the ukla test and stuff I mean, and it's not terrible. I mean, you know, they're averaging 40 50 mags or whatever it may be Which is certainly not terrible. But I mean, this is still early beta Well, they're not letting anybody I think they got 90,000 some odd people on now. They have 500,000 backlogged waiting to get birds in the air, but you know, it's It's not the doom and gloom from a pure tech perspective. A lot of people think that it is you got to look at the math You got to look at the coverage and the capacity because You know, it hadn't didn't didn't look fly out Yeah, and even those capacity numbers. I'm sure it's like everything and it probably You know goes with like what we see here, right? You know, we we see a lot of the kind of, you know, on paper You know white paper purely technical in a vacuum, although they are in a vacuum in space, right?  So yeah, it may have four gigs. Let's say Bandwidth available per bird, right? But I mean, it's not always going to work that way It's not always going to work that way and I would imagine that there's there's a lot of the You know besides the new technical issues that they have to overcome Weather and whatever might be there as well You probably still have some of the other problems we deal with as well where you have some customers who Maybe don't have a great connection and it throws off, you know speeds and you know the different transponders and different parts of the arrays and it, you know One bad customer starts affecting the performance of the other customers and and let's talk about a blackout, right? So if that bird goes down what happens, right? If it stops working Then you have a five mile area that has no service when another one comes in it picks up and that bad one Goes somewhere else. I mean, there's just there's just so much that can happen in space That it's just it's just I just don't see I mean at least as a wisp they can pick up the phone They can call you and you can roll out to their house and get them a new cpe And you can get them, you know up and running again If you're you know an ap goes down on your tower you can roll out to that tower You can get that ap back up and running, right? And you don't really get that When you're in space, you don't have the truck rolls to space to fix that stuff, right? So I mean service I think service is really You know where it wisps come in and how we're going to dominate dominate starlink because there's no way they can perform or provide The service the customer service that we as wisps can do and they'll have You know no way of doing that, you know no no way of you know keeping up with that and customers appreciate that I mean, I know I know I do I've had service with some providers And the service wasn't always great But you know the fact that I knew that when I picked up the phone they called they knew who I was right When they said hey, I'm sorry. I knew they meant it, right? That's a big thing And I'm willing to deal with it and and and when I said look dude, you really need to bail me out I have some mission critical whatever conference something going on I need this to happen, you know, they're able to Put me at the head of the list and get me taken care of before some other people when that happens So you're not going to get that with starlink. So No, not at all. I mean in the service side of thing I mean, this is how wisps were competing in dense suburban and even urban areas against the big cable companies, you know, it's That that that local business that service the fact that you can actually talk to a human and stuff I mean carry so much weight. So That I mean, that's huge. Now, I mean, there's also so many other issues at play So you have to have what 120 degree clear view of the southern sky or whatever like, you know, okay I just have to see the sky well in these rural areas at least in my part of the country We got these things called trees and they keep really high and like I mean, and definitely an issue that with phase two But now you have to have it not just in one direction You don't have to clever a clear shot to a tower. You have to have a clear shot across, you know Pretty much the whole sky. So you've got those considerations. You've got dishy McFlat phase So the cpe in and of itself is pretty freaking sweet. Like I'm not gonna argue that It is auto lining. I mean the tech the tech is there. I mean, it's cool. Shit. No doubt.  Like that's a thing That's a thing and then like what do you do? You get this $500 door weight now this $500 door weight also costs You know space or starlink probably two to three grand of actual cost and we've been seeing a lot about that lately and How does it work when you have a how's it work when you have a foot of snow and ice on your roof? And that thing is just encrusted in it. You know, I'm just like Yeah, I think it's got a heater and it auto tracks. I mean, there's some pretty cool stuff So I think the heat the heat has been what I think has been the main main physical issue line of sight Funny enough And heat have been the big thing.  So are you familiar? Are you familiar with the the connection interface? Man, I know that it's like hardwired in.  Is it like a proprietary usb or something like this? I mean, what's the interface like pretty sure it's cat5 runs in the house ties into the router Poe kind of thing too. So yeah, exactly. So I mean, it's a pretty slick setup and like the interface and stuff is simple You can track and see like I don't know you can track and see how much downtime you're having I'm like, well, that's cool. If you're tinkering terrifying if you're not, right? Like, you know, that interface is going to go away here pretty soon I mean, there's a lot of complaints. Well, it's beta. I'm like, okay. Let's think of being beta for the next 10 20 years We don't really know so I mean You got that the tech the tech issues are kind of what I think about because I mean money I mean money's kind of fake especially when we're just kind of Making it rain, you know from the federal level throw money out there Yeah, they recently picked up a bill from an easy billion from art off and everything But I mean at some point the money doesn't last forever and yeah, they got starling or uh, space x Yeah, this is supposed to be paying for space x because space x can't sustain itself with just doing NASA d&d launches and you end up with this weird like snake eating this tail way of paying for things and you look at To put up 42,000 satellites. What's that cost when you can only pop up 60 at a time, right? They don't have the heavy pushing them yet. You know, they're they're running the Falcon 9 Which is a great rig, but I mean it's not you know 60 million dollars to pop that joker up there and carry 60 satellites are like, well, let's care the one Oh, yeah, that's a million dollars piece to get them up in the air Uh, they got a five-year lifespan So you got to pay to basically rebuild the whole thing every five years give or take You've got normal attrition of three percent a year. You got you know All the space junk and all this other stuff like there's just a lot of factors to play now My personal opinion. I think the military is probably sort of darkly feeding this They're and it's my my belief that the military is going to take it over. He's not building this for The u.s. Citizens broadband this is going to turn into a military Military apparatus and that's what it's going to be used for that's just my putting it out there early on We'll see if i'm right in five six years from now, but I've seen a few pictures of the dishes that like like dod installs and or Installations and stuff like that and people just lose their mind and i'm like well Maybe or maybe it's just some guy that wants some internet out in podunk, alaska on this lonely Air Force base or something wants to play so that one guy. Yeah, yeah one guy Example man, so yeah, but and and and beyond like the the actual physical cost because like you said money's being printed these days So I don't I don't find it very difficult to believe that he will find and get the money Whether it's from the government governments around the world, whatever it is. I think that will happen Right, but if you look at the cost like you mentioned earlier, right?  You got to pay that and what's the monthly? The the monthly subscription fee, right? What's it cost every month to have the internet? It's like 100 and something bucks a month, right? So I think 99 bucks which is yeah I mean still I mean there's the wisps can highly compete on price as well as on service. I mean I mean, I don't know There's only so much opinion and feedback that I can give because i'm not a wisp, right? You know, so we're not doing it every day. Obviously. We're not out there feeling the grind But I mean for what I do know, I I think I at least I can give a really good perspective because I know what it's like to be a customer for internet, right? And I've been in rule at my ranch, right? I have it in the suburbs at my house So from that perspective, I know what I'm willing to pay and what I'm willing to deal with and Like I said the the only way that I would get starlink, you know out in let's say my ranch, right? Where its rule is if I had no other choice, right? So Um, I just I'm just not seeing it man. I don't know. I don't know about the doom I think I think we as an industry really need to focus on what the hell we're doing We've done so good over the last 10 15 years Just keep pushing forward Keep building out go to those areas before they go to those areas and I think you're going to be just fine I think you're going to be just fine Yeah, I think it's it's not going to crash and burn like every you know a lot of the haters think I think it's going to be around. I think it's going to be a thing I think it'll always be the meh kind of choice or the okay choice Right, right. I mean, yeah They do it with three satellites. So not 42,000 Exactly So, you know, I think it will be an option But yeah, if you're running a wisp and can serve with these areas and you've got a good solid business You know, it's definitely something you want to watch and keep keep your eyes on but it's not doom It's more like I don't know lowercase doom with the question mark No, it's like doom or like, I don't know A little shrug and motor kind of like, we'll see So lowercase doom. Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm not I'm not worried for the wisps that are out there Based on all all the things that I know and uh, and we'll see like I said, you know Don't forget our industry is evolving too, right? So speeds are getting faster radios are getting better Spectrum is opening up.  So just pay attention to what's happening the good things that are happening In our industry and just push ahead then push ahead because we've been there We've been there twice three times now and at least my experience. So You're good to go. You're good to go. No no need. No need to get a taco truck. That's Yeah, it's more of a more of a doom with a yawn. So my my last point on that is You know, it's really funny.  I'm like, okay.  So, you know gone So all right, so now getting back to earth Oh Sorry, that's that's pretty good. It's not not even like to earth, but like we're going below earth in some places right here Right, right. We're going underground underground time for a little underground talk from the life's podcast It's friday afternoon. Can you tell sir? We should start shooting these on like a thursday so we can actually get through them So, yeah, maybe yeah All right, so fiber into the world or one of the best things that you can also do Yeah, I mean definitely one of the best things that you could also do right so definitely fiber is not the end Again, uh, there's there's a lot of land out there A lot of customers out there and it's becoming, you know cheaper and easier to do it As time goes on so for me fiber gets a ching ching two thumbs up I think some of the biggest concerns, I mean and I get it to you know, you're uh, even a big operator It's not remotely funded, you know, like some of these big National companies are and you know, some of these big national companies even the really terrible ones Like how does a bank like a company is listed on the grant winning with their bankruptcy name? Like how do you even do that? Right, so I don't know I don't know good grant writers. I guess right exactly like grant winners dba like Bankruptcy holding corporate whatever but anyways, so there's a bunch of these big crappy companies getting a lot of my money for fiber and you know, a lot of folks are afraid they're just going to over build everything and You know, whether or not that's true is super dependent on your location.  Maybe it's not the best place to deploy right now but if you're worried about some of these sketchy operators not gonna throw a lot of names out there, but You know the ones that are failed a lot but still keep getting propped up You know, if they're talking about maybe coming out there somewhere Hey, that's fair game like get after it whether you're doing wireless or even your own fiber Especially if you're doing your own fiber, you know So because not only can you get it done in a reasonable amount of time because you know exactly how long it's gonna take But then you've got all the benefits of that local support Local relationships we talked about this on an earlier episode, you know Forming relationships with your local government whether it be the city level the mini level the county the state You know, even federal if you can like, you know build those relationships because those pop up And they want to put that name out there before the the big evil corp and stuff too Definitely and you know a lot of that fiber that's going out there isn't you know to the home I mean fiber is is kind of a generic term right as far as what they're trying to do a lot of it is Maybe going down some of those, you know county roads or farm to market roads in some of the rural areas But it's not really necessary to to bring it to those homes that are there right So these are great opportunities for a whisk to be able to wholesale by fiber Right and beam it to their towers and get more bandwidth there, right? So, you know, there's there's there's other opportunities and other things that you can do where you know This might actually benefit you more than than it'll actually hurt you. So it's things to look at as well For sure. I think one I can't remember if we talked about this the other week or not Because i'm getting old Uh and getting kind of that friday feeling but um, you know There's a lot of these like electrical co-ops and stuff that are running a ton of aerial because for them It doesn't really cost, you know hardly anything other than the material But a lot of those are running a bunch of dark fibers and they want to partner for that last mile Yep, and lease out stuff and use them for transport Um, even a lot of the big carriers big tower companies are bringing a lot of their own fiber into sites too And then you can either tie in or you know do your wireless the the hybrid model looks really good So, you know fiber in existence if you have the opportunity to deploy it You should really be looking down that path and there's a lot of places to learn. Um, we mentioned wispa The, uh, vegas show wispa palooza. You know, there's a ton of fiber talk at that show. So go check that out There's a fispa show specifically for fiber isps as well. Actually it's now in september It just got I think because of covet. Yeah, but still there's a fispa show and group That you can look into as well. So yeah Yeah, so we brought this up a few times lately, but it's not the doom It's that a lot of people spell it out to be but you gotta take it contextually and look and say You know sometimes you got a zig sometimes you got a zag Yeah, I mean, I I I think like, you know, I said earlier about the 5g thing It's like look guys, you know, let's let's make some lemonade right out of these lemons There's a lot of benefit for you Out of that and it doesn't have to be the the end of the world, you know Yeah, I mean as a way it's like any other company or business out there Like you've got to evolve So if you're just kind of lean them, you know up against the fence post and Not upgrading and not bringing in capacity and running these sort of five meg rule janky connections and stuff like that Then you know what there's a really good chance that a star link or you know Even a rural 5g link or something it could really wipe you out from a competition perspective So you can't wrestling or laurels. You got to get up there and get moving But there's so much out there now for the wisp provider to to utilize from a tech perspective Between the radio stuff our stuff, you know, enable to build these massively scalable networks that you couldn't do years ago The fiber transports never been cheaper the radios Like I said, you know, now we're talking next year and whether a x and medusas and things like that like you can Get a high number of high bandwidth plans on there and be super competitive, you know against the big guys So you got to stay most in motion. You got to stay positive You got to stay focused but and offer that service and you're gonna be fun Definitely 100% totally agree with you. Totally agree with you And there's way like there's so many other things that are terrible that you got to deal with too Like taxes and lightning and everything else. Yeah, plenty of other things to worry about And those are more real and things that you you really should focus about dealing with I think I think if you really, you know think back about all that stuff It's really think about what you have going on and what you can do to make your service better Uh to make your customer service better if you really focus on yourself and your company You're gonna be fine. Don't don't waste time thinking about what the other people are doing Just focus on what you got going on focus on making that better growing your wisp, you know growing your company And providing a better service than any of these big box Providers can ever ever do ever do 100% man. So look at us. We don't positive and vibe Yeah, I wasn't you know, I was I was all like, you know, all I got y'all worked out over time But then you started just mellowed out. No, I'm just kind of like love is in the air Let's make some lemonade, you know, so yeah, I mean really it gets me pumped up, right? And it's something that I'm really passionate about like I always say this industry I definitely don't want to see it fall apart and I'm willing to fight and help whoever I have to help in order to keep it going So for me, uh, you know, I think we got things going on. We're good. We're good Yeah, it's super exciting was coming up. So Well, all right. Well speaking of what's coming up what you got We wrapped this up here. What you got going on this weekend, man So so yeah, so I'm actually going to Houston not my favorite city In Texas, but going out to Houston, especially well, you know, there's a hurricane coming into the Gulf, right? So my luck, you know, maybe maybe this will be good because the people in Louisiana were supposed to go Would be happy if it went to Galveston, you know in the area I'm going but uh, my daughter has a Soccer tournament as you can see I'm wearing my soccer shirt here Representing Austin, but obviously it's not her league or anything like that But I'm kind of in a soccer dad mood, you know So yeah, so driving up to Houston for the weekend She's got a couple games on saturday a game on sunday and we'll be back So I'm excited lots of lots of good food in Houston though. Lots of good food So I'm excited about you know going out to eat Uh checking out some uh some new spots that are probably out there and uh, like I said, eating some good food At least so that's I'm pretty excited All I can think of is, hmm, Houston in August, September No, I was doing work. I was I had to do a lot of work out that way on the last couple years And I'm like, I am going to die like I was talking to my buddy the other day. I was like, he's like what are you doing this weekend? There's a birthday party and I'm like, I'm going to Houston.   I'll take one for the team love my daughter I love her playing soccer. So I gotta just to get dad things man. I gotta do it. You gotta do dad things, you know Yeah, yeah, so I've gotten if it starts raining watch out I've been stuck in that airport because it had the audacity to rain because I mean Why would it ever rain on the the Gulf Coast, right? Dude, it was a nightmare that place floods that you spill a coke and that place is gonna flood So it starts raining. You need to get out of there. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm familiar enough with it. So yeah We're having our fingers crossed fingers crossed Well, cool, cool, man. Yeah, not a lot going on around here going to do a little Uh, grilling kitchen tanker in this weekend. Uh, just trying to stay chill and around here Luckily, I think we back at summertime heat. We're close. We got a few more weeks and then maybe we'll cool off We'll have a little bit of fake fall. I get very excited around fake fall season We get that week where it's like crisp and cool. Then it hits like Like swamp season again for a few weeks and drops down. So But it's coming soon. So I gotta start prepping. I gotta start digging up some firewood and and tapping some old sources and stuff So I'm working on some some fall preparation. You can say nice. Nice. Nice All right, man. Well, this has been fun. Uh, but that said it is friday. It is time to go So let's wrap this up now anybody out there We want to hear from you. Give us some input About what you guys want to hear about. There's a lot of ways you can find us Toss us and I are all over facebook and social media platforms. I'm sure you've seen Toss us more than me because I let him do his thing. 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