All right, good evening and welcome to this community meeting update on the Santa Rosa Highway 101 bicycle pedestrian over crossing project. I'm Grant Bailey supervising engineer with the city of Santa Rosa Transportation Public Works department and project manager for this project. And I want to thank you for joining us tonight. The interpretation can be heard on the Spanish channel, you can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon that resembles a globe in the zoom toolbar on your screen. Before we begin the presentation, our host Lauren Wiley with the city of Santa Rosa and our interpreters Pablo, Rotas and Charles, I will explain how the meeting will work. I want to thank you for joining us tonight. You can hear the interpretation live on the Spanish channel and you can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon that resembles a globe in the zoom toolbar on your screen. Okay, thank you Pablo. As community members joined the meeting, you will be participating as an attendee. Your microphone and camera will be muted. Only today's panelists will be viewed during the meeting. Please know the city of Santa Rosa is committed to creating a safe and inclusive environment free from disruption. We will not tolerate any hateful speech or actions and will monitor that everyone is participating respectfully or they will be removed. If necessary, we will also immediately end the meeting. This meeting is being recorded and will be placed on the city's website following the meeting. At the end of the presentation grant will open up the meeting for public questions and comment. Thank you Lauren. Once again, I want to thank all of you for joining us tonight. The intent of this meeting is to give us give a status update to the community on the highway 101 bike and pedestrian over crossing project, provide a forum to ask questions and give input on the project. This meeting will focus primarily on the over crossing landings on Edwards and Elliot avenues and meeting to discuss the overall structure that crosses highway 101 will be held in the fall this year. Your participation and input is important to us as we proceed through the project. Next slide please. We'll start tonight's meeting with an overview of the agenda and the topics we plan to cover in the presentation. We'll start with a project overview and description of the project. Then we'll move on to some milestones that have been completed to date, and then we'll move on to the next steps for the projects, which the team anticipates coming in the next months and years. We'll then hand the presentation over to the project architect Steven Grover to discuss some design considerations, and I'd like to note that the topic Steven will cover in the design considerations were topics Caltrans in the city received frequent comments on during the environmental phase common period. But if you have other concerns related to the approaches outside of these topics, I encourage you to bring them up during the question and answer portion of the meeting. Which takes us to the last part of our meeting, which will be a community question and answer session. And again, the intent of this meeting is to provide a forum for the community to ask questions and give their input on the project. So, participation at this participation is encouraged at this point to ensure we have maximum excuse me to ensure we maximize the available time to get your input. And then we'll cover topics at a high level with more visuals available for when topics come up during the discussion and question and question and answer session immediately following the presentation. I would also like to restate this meeting will only cover the two approaches on Edwards and Elliott avenues and the structure spanning the freeway will be presented to visit city design review board in approximately October this year. Next slide please. So we'll talk about a quick project description. The highway one on one bike and pedestrian over crossing poses to construct a 14 and a half foot wide bike and pedestrian bridge that will cross us highway one on one and connect East and West Santa Rosa, increasing access to academic residential commercial and recreational areas, as well as transit hubs. In the final environmental phase of this project to build alternatives were considered alternative one was the Edwards Avenue and Elliott Avenue alignment, shown in foreground this, this photo on the slide. And alternative to was the range Avenue and bear cub way alignment. In 2021, the project development team, in conjunction with Caltrans as the lead environmental agency, certified the project environmental document and approved the Edwards Elliott alignment bill alternative. Next slide please. Right now we'll talk a little bit about the milestones completed to date where this project kind of started back in 2007. Our feasibility study was initiated for this project. And the feasibility study assessed the need for and feasibility of constructing a bicycle and pedestrian bridge over highway one on one near the Santa Rosa junior college campus in Santa Rosa. Ultimately, the study found there is a need to improve bike and pedestrian access across highway one on one adjacent to the JC, and the freeway overpass structure would substantially address this need. Completing the, we finalized the feasibility study phase in November 2010, which took us into the project initiation. The document phase, and during the space of the project, a document document was developed and approved by Caltrans that identified the project to be programmed for funding and construction on the state highway system. That phase was completed in October of 2016, which then initiated the environmental phase and the environmental phase. The document team with Caltrans performed a robust analysis of environmental considerations and also consider different build alternatives. Completed in March 2021, March of this year, with the selection of the Edwards Avenue build alternative to the Edwards Avenue and Elliott Avenue build alternative and Caltrans also approved the project in June of this year. The $12 million in federal funding was awarded through the active transportation program by the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, and this funding was strictly programmed for construction, so that was a very big step forward for the funding of to construct this project. And then following the environmental clearance phase, the city also awarded a design contract to BKF engineers, and we began the detailed design phase of this project in June last month of this year. Next slide please. So some of the, some of the plan next steps in October of 2021, following this meeting. And after we collect comments from an input from the community, we plan to bring the over crossing project. And then we'll go to the Santa Rosa Design Review Board, where we'll present the overall structure that crosses the freeway, as well as the approaches and plan that plan that it will be discussed in detail. I'd like to also remind everyone on this call that that meeting is also a public meeting. And if you'd like to give us comments or just comments questions, or just generally be involved in the process. You're encouraged to attend that meeting. Following the design review board meeting, the city, the city and our sub consultants will hold another community meeting to report out on the direction given by the design review board, and then also collect additional input from the community. And that will occur in November of this year. Following that community meeting. The city plans to work to develop the final plans for the over crossing project, which will take us into May 2023 when we anticipate design completion. At that point, we'll be ready to issue an advertisement for construction bids and are anticipating beginning construction in October 2023. We also expect that the project will take two years to construct and anticipate completion of construction in fall 2025. Next slide please. I would now like to introduce Steven Grover of Steven Grover Associates, who has been the project architect on the one on one bike and pedestrian over crossing project since his inception in 2007. Steven will provide a detailed discussion of the design considerations based on community feedback received during the environmental phase. Steven. Thank you Grant and thank you everybody for spending your time with us tonight. Before talking about your project. I'd like to share some reflections on how the design of over crossings is evolving in general. Next slide please. Most freeway over crossings in use today were designed during the second half of the 20th century. They were designed with a single design goal in mind to make walking across the freeway possible. Over crossings were, but they are, as you see in all of the images above typically not very inviting. And for example, in the two lower images, often rather difficult to ride a bicycle on. Sometimes, as you see in the upper left, it's even hard to find the entrance. Next slide please. Architectural spaces created in these older over crossings commonly suffer from poor sight lines. So they can feel confined and users may feel isolated. This detracts from the safety and security of these over crossings. Excuse me next slide please. Beginning in the 1990s. These communities and municipalities in the United States started to expand the design goals for over crossings beyond just making walking across possible. Broadly speaking, the goal for over crossing design is increasingly understood as encouraging biking and walking. Many new best design practices for the various aspects of over crossing design have emerged. We intend to apply all of these latest best practices to your project. Here for example is my design for the approach to an over crossing that endeavors to achieve a more positive user and viewer experience. Specifically, we introduced greater widths, clearer sight lines, gentler curves and slopes and a more eye catching structure than was norm at the time. Next please. New over crossing designs. Also increasingly include attractive landscaping. They highlight the entry points and are treated as welcome architectural contributions to our streetscapes. Next, in general, the design vocabulary for newer over crossings has become more about linking positive streetscape experiences, rather than imposing a freeway aesthetic on neighborhoods. As a result, over crossings increasingly employ alternatives to chain link fencing, for example, to provide for a more open feeling, such as with, as you see her on the left, woven wire mesh, or on the right cable mesh. Next. Over crossings are increasingly seen as structures that celebrate our, our alternatives to driving, rather than just utilitarian infrastructure to be tucked away. Thus, we also see greater attention to aesthetics such as elegant flowing lines that can please the eye. And as you also see more attention to the aesthetics of lighting, lighting that is more safely configured to avoid glare spots, and to just illuminate the traveled surface. Next, finally, current best practices for over crossing design. Trend, trend towards an emphasis on how both commuting cyclists and slow moving pedestrians can safely share a common pathway. Next, now for your project. I'd like to now show you some of our early iterations of the design details that we've developed with these best practices, these newer best practices in mind. We will be looking tonight only at the Edwards Avenue and Elliott Avenue streetscape portions of your project. During the feasibility project initiation and environmental phases of this project, we have heard from you about a number of ideas and concerns. As Grant mentioned, most of your comments fall into the following categories. Safety, security, parking. The bus stops on Edwards. And how the project can be a successful part of your neighborhood streetscape. After this presentation, we very much look forward to hearing more of your thoughts. Next slide. Just a little bit of housekeeping here. The solar panels and student housing shown here on the right in the red circles are new or currently under construction, and thus, they were not shown in the environmental documents for this project. One other note is that on all the slides where we're looking down from the top, we we've tried to keep north up. So you don't get confused. Next slide. One safety concern we have heard about since 2007 is how to avoid conflicts between cyclists and pedestrians. The solution shown here. A two way bike path and a separate sidewalk goes back to the 2010 feasibility study for this project. Next slide. Quickly. People have expressed concerns about the safety at the West touchdown adjacent to the Dix loading dock driveway here shown is the design from 2016. It clearly designates the mixing area at the bottom of the ramp, but it also allowed for straight ahead travel as well as for entering the drive aisle of the parking lot as shown by the red arrows. Some of the concerns that allowing this through travel, could introduce some safety concerns in response to your comments we refined the design as shown above to restrict these travel paths more. We also added a few other safety features which I'd be happy to discuss more during the discussion period. Next slide. One topic that touches on both safety and security is lighting. We want to work with you to achieve the right balance between a project that is well lit for safety and security. Yet is pleasant and comfortable and not harshly over lit like a gas station. Next slide. Here's another view of that same area. We just saw from a bird's eye point of view, seen now from the ground level on the east side of the project. The ramp will connect to Elliott Avenue near the new Santa Rosa junior college student housing that is currently under construction. Now some people at the SR JC have noted the increasing interest on campus in walking and biking. And they asked us to study how to avoid conflicts at this east touchdown area where multiple travel paths converge. Here's a diagram of cyclists paths shown in solid lines and pedestrians in dashed lines. And here's a view of the same public place that's created by this project at its east touchdown. This view is looking west along Elliott Avenue. Next. And here's another view from across the street with regard to safety and security I'd like to also note that the SR JC police station is immediately adjacent to project on the east side, and that the Santa Rosa police department has made a commitment to monitor the project on an ongoing basis. Moreover, the active retail on the west side, directly adjacent to project should also help to activate the streetscape. And as we know the more eyes on a street the safer it is. Next slide. We can also use plants and landscape treatments like the ones shown here. So it's nice to look at but not so nice to touch or lie down in as deterrence to repose or encampment. And we really look forward to your detailed comments and input on landscaping. We understand there are existing parking concerns along Edwards Avenue, the number of parking spots along Edwards will remain unchanged by this project. We also understand that there are concerns that this project will people wanting to visit the SR JC may choose to park on the west side. Now I know that the city staff has some ideas about how to address these concerns, and that they look forward to getting your input on their ideas during the Q&A period. There is currently no street parking along Elliott Avenue, and the project will not impact the street in any way. I'd like to mention, however, that we did do some design coordination with the team that is designing the new SR JC student housing. And we were by working together, able to increase the number of parking lot spaces originally proposed for this housing. We heard a lot about during the environmental phase was the bus stop on Edwards, and how it disrupts the neighborhood impedes car traffic, cars turning from Cleveland and attracts litter from people waiting for the bus. The good news is that it's official now the bus stop on Edwards will actually be removed. The bus stop has opened up an opportunity for us to consider an alternate to a straight sidewalk along Edwards Avenue. As you see here in the bottom. We have the option now to create a slightly meandering sidewalk. Here's a view from the ground level of the new overhead structure, the landscaping underneath with the straight sidewalk alternative. And here's the same view with the meandering sidewalk. I personally think this alternative works better. It creates perhaps a less regimented feeling with the supports that it intertwines with. It also increases the width of the landscaped buffer between the sidewalk and the street. And here's the meandering sidewalk alternative as seen from one of the buildings across Edwards Avenue. In response to your comments, we are also working to minimize large flat surfaces that could attract graffiti, or to treat them in a way that deters graffiti. Another idea we are considering is vines, but vines that require climbing structures so that the extent of their growth is off limiting, and thus low maintenance. Here's a view of that same area we were just looking at, but at night. We've also started to consider the plant palette for the landscaping for the project here shown is a palette based on shrubs and flowers. This palette is predominantly about grasses. And here are a few other plants, colors and textures that we are considering and would love to hear from you about. And I should mention now that Maura Baldwin, our project landscape architect is with us tonight, and she will be very happy to discuss the landscaping further during our discussion period. One design goals for this and basically every project is to retain trees wherever possible. Trees provide shade and many environmental benefits. As seen here marked in green, nearly all the major trees along the south side of Elliott Avenue. And the east side of Armory Drive will be retained. A few minor trees and landscaping in this area will be replaced. Next slide. Along Edwards Avenue. There will be losses of the new trees along the north side of Edwards Avenue, the landscaping areas between Dix parking lot and the street. All of these trees will be replaced as part of the new landscaping for the over crossing project. Finally, we look forward to your thoughts on who will use this new over crossing our analysis suggests the users will include the following. Your neighbors who are jogging walking or cycling for fitness. People from adjacent residential areas who want to run an errand or shop on the other side of the freeway and prefer not to drive. Using the smart pathway for north south travel and then use this project to make an east west connection. Also, people who are using the smart train to commute. And finally people who are accessing transit schools and other services or commuting to work on a bicycle. And with that, I would like to turn the meeting back over to grant. Thank you, Stephen. Next slide please. At this time, we'd like to hear from you, our community to receive your input. So we will now move to the question and answer portion of this meeting. However, before we begin, I'll ask Lauren to review how you can participate by asking live questions and comments. Grant, once Grant calls for public questions or comments, our co host Steve Brown will announce for anyone wishing to ask a question or comment to raise their hand and zoom.  We'll then call in the public one by one who have their zoom hand raised. Steve will unmute your microphones you may ask your question. Once you've raised your hand and asked your question or shared your input, your hand will be lowered and your microphone muted so our panelists may respond to your question. Thanks Lauren. Steve are we ready for the first meeting attendee to ask their question or provide a comment. Yes, we are. Thank you, Grant. So I want to remind you that anyone wishing to ask a question. You should raise your hand and zoom. If you're calling in please down nine to raise your hand. If you are a caller for privacy sake I have changed your, I've changed your name to the citizen and the last four digits of your phone number. And that's how I will refer to you when I call on you. So to begin the first person in the queue is Derek Wayne. I'm going to enable your permissions to speak your microphone Derek has been unmuted. You may state your name for the record if you choose and go ahead and ask your question and make your comment. Hello, thank you. This is Derek Robertson. I would like to say I am so excited for this project. Thank you to everyone involved. Building alternatives to automobile transport is of course a huge part of meeting our climate change challenge. And I'm really excited about how this is going to allow me to travel up and down the smart corridor and get East West. I just had one comment. I'd like to suggest that the crosswalks at the touchdowns be raised to the level of the sidewalk grade because that's really nice and feels really safe. Thanks Derek, really appreciate your comments and enthusiasm for the project. Thank you. Right Steve. Is there another question or comments in the queue. Thank you Grant. The next person in the queue is David Harris. David I'm going to enable your permissions to speak your microphone has been unmuted. And you may state your name for the record if you choose and then ask your question or make a comment. Thank you for the record David Harris and I've been watching this project for a long time as Steven Grover knows, and I am very happy to see the progress it's been made. You remember we looked at Elliott many years ago and there were obstructions and the progress and JC planning has opened the way over there to in many ways and other than having a parking for that corner value in Armory. We've got room for a good landing there. And I'm also very happy to see the progress you've been able to make in alternatives for the Edwards landing. I guess I have a question of how much you've considered zero fitting plants. I put that question in the comments. Also, that would be a question that I've recently been down to Monterey and observe a lot of specific plants down there that you know succulents that can survive. Not much, you know, not much attention and not getting much water so that's one question comment. The other thing I'd like to bring up is I think about the possibilities that we might think farther about how to integrate this with the smart North Station, the multi use path, and the fact that there is an existing path along pollen Creek, going east toward the freeway it doesn't quite get to the freeway and then on the east side of freeway there's a long pollen Creek path on the south side of the county center. And ideally we could get those things all tied together. We'll take another over crossing, I think it pollen Creek, but I will stop at that I'm very happy to see the progress that's been made, and I look forward to the fall meeting. Thank you David really appreciate your comments and questions and I think I'm just going to clarify real quick. I can't quite, I don't think I can restate the words you're using to describe the plants but I believe you're referring to succulents I think there was a question out there that I saw pop up. And I think succulent type plants and maybe cacti are what you're referring to. Those plant types. And then you also referred to kind of future planning and what the city had any plans for connecting multi use paths and bike paths to this to do the over crossing once it's completed. And I'm going to actually ask Nancy Adams or the city of Santa Rosa's transportation planner to maybe just give a brief overview of what the future plans are to connect for multi use path and and bike network to this project. Nancy. Thanks, Nancy Adams, and I'm also on the transportation and public works department. And, you know, we're always looking for for those connections without their identified in our bike and pet master plan. And actually I hadn't thought about the pollen Creek one. So thank you for for bringing that one up David. Certainly, you know, making every effort to make a seamless connection to, you know, the obvious class one path along the smart rail corridor. So we can certainly, you know, reach out to our city water department who really has more, you know, more connection to the crease along our path and, and see what kind of status that pollen Creek has but yeah I think those are all the comments and, and the whole goal this is to keep the seamless connections for our bikes and pedestrians. So thank you. Thanks Nancy. And again, thank you David really appreciate your comments and questions. Grant, could we have more say, if check in with her and see if she has anything to say about succulents. Absolutely yes thanks even appreciate that. I'm glad you're there this is more bald and I'm the landscape architect on the project and I'm so happy to be part of this team and working with the community to create this beautiful space. So I think the entire plant pallet will absolutely be low water use whether, and I'm sure there are ways to incorporate sucklet succulents into that. And it'll be so we low water use tough and very, you know, very, and attractive at the same time. So drought tolerant plants are actually part of the state mandated water efficient landscape ordinance so I'm essentially sort of mandated to provide landscapes that are low water use. Thank you. Thanks a lot Mara appreciate the input. All right Steve, do we have another question or comment in the queue. And we sure do grant the next person in our queue is joy Wakefield joy I'm going to enable your permissions to speak your microphone has been unmuted, you can state your name for the record if you choose and then ask your question or make your comment. Yeah, hi. And I'm totally for this plan I just want to start off that way. Unfortunately, I live on raccoon lane, which is directly across from Dix loading zone. And I've lived here 20 years in the course Dix fairly no. And we've had lots of problems with Dix about that loading the way it's designed. You have like 55 and 60 foot trucks coming in and backing into that. A lot of these drivers don't do very well. So, I'm sure you're familiar with the entrance to raccoon lane. And we've had to put up posts to limit them. And Dix won't do anything about it so I guess my question is, is that going to remain as they're loading entrance. Because also, it looks on your pictures and stuff that nobody ever parks in that parking place on that side. It's packed all the time. I don't know where people come from to park there, but they use it constantly. And Dix is, you know, using and loading. And it's not only the huge trucks, they've always got FedEx and, you know, all the different companies. So, as you can see, we are probably about 40, 50 feet from the entrance to your new, your new entrance to your overpass.  Yes, that's that's a good question, Joy. Thanks for bringing that up. So, at this time, we did consider the, in the environmental document consider Dix loading access and as part of the project plans to make no alterations to that loading for Dix at this point. May I chime in on that, Grant? Of course you, please. Joy, it's really a joy, if you don't mind me saying so, to hear how the mystery of how the trucks get in and out of their result. Now I hear that they back in. And I can imagine that it's quite difficult for them. So, if you would like to take your, I've made careful notes, we really like to take your comments under advisement and, and look more closely at that. We'll also update our images to show that portion of the parking lot, fully occupied to give a little bit better representation of what you say is actually happening there. Thanks, Stephen. Yeah, there's another. Sorry, Steve. Comment your question in the queue. There sure are there are a few more. So the next person in our queue is Christine Culver. Christine I'm going to enable your permissions and your microphone is unmuted. You can state your name for the record if you choose and then ask your question or make a comment. Thank you very much and hopefully you can hear me. Yes. My name is Christine Culver and I am joining you today representing Sonoma County Supervisor Chris Corsi. And he wanted to just let you know that he is a longtime supporter of this project and very excited to see it moving forward. So I wanted to state that. And then as a community member and a SRJC neighbor myself. I'm very excited about this having been very involved in this for over 20 years. I'm so pleased to see it move forward to this to this point. I do have some suggestions that I'd like to make. I would like to see that the sidewalk across the over crossing be raised. I couldn't tell if it was or not in the drawings, but I would suggest that that would help delineate where the pedestrian should be and where the bike rider should be. And I think that would help with some conflicts there. And, and I also want to say that I think Stephen Grover has done a fantastic job on this. I wanted to put my appreciation there. And I do want to speak to the meandering sidewalk. And I strongly encourage you not to go with meandering sidewalks. While I think that they are pleasing to look at. They're not very efficient for the person who is using them for transportation. And I think we need to stop building our facilities for the drivers for their views that also need to be very cognizant that this is a facility for pedestrians and bike riders and pedestrians don't want to be wandering the sidewalks back and forth when they're carrying a bunch of groceries or they're hauling up kids. So, please take that into consideration. And thank you again for your time. I really appreciate it. Thank you, Christine, and very happy to hear, you know, representative from one of our supervisors joined the meeting tonight and happy to hear some support from supervisor Corsi. So, Stephen, well, sorry, Christine to go back to I think your first comment was on the uplifted sidewalk on the deck of the over crossing itself. Stephen, do you want to just take a moment, we can look at slide 48. And I think gives a little bit better view of what we're planning to do here. If I understood the question correctly. Yes, and Christine, thank you for those comments. Well, one of the things that I just made a note of is we'll look at the total travel distance comparing the meandering to the straight sidewalk and make sure we get back with that information, just as a data point. The raised sidewalk. Yes, this has been part of the project for many years, and it's a future that has worked well on a couple of other bicycle and pedestrian projects that I've designed in the Bay Area. And here it consists of a sidewalk, and a very, very, very slight angled curb so that it's safe for both wheelchairs and cyclists if they run into it, but also delineates the sidewalk and separates it psychologically from the faster moving traffic of the two way bike path. So both the meandering side of sidewalk and the raised sidewalk on the over crossing Stephen. Steve, do we have another question or comments in the queue. Yes, we do. The first person and our, and our queue is airs weaver.  You can state your name for the record if you choose and then ask your question, or make your comment would help if I unmuted first wouldn't it. Thank you for the Executive Director of the Sonoma County Bicycle Coalition, and we have been watching this project with great interest for, oh gosh, over 10 years now. So very so happy that it's progressing along because our East West Alternatives College and Steel Lane are so ugly. I don't mean that just visually but safety wise and experientially to bicycle on and we still need that that connector across the freeway. A couple of questions and I have.  I've been director Harris you mentioned the being sure that everything connects well with other paths that's something that happens. So many places where things get built, you know, in separate pieces and then the connection between them doesn't always mesh very well and that that's very frustrating when one is trying to get from point a to point B I know the city's already got some improvements on armory and you know I like some of the other streets and so I'm I'm hoping just that all those other connections continue to be made as seamlessly as possible connected with that. So the whole the area on the Elliott Avenue side, since I've been in the past both the student and a faculty member out the JC. I'm not as familiar with the area, the touchdown by dicks on Edwards, and what, what what the natural user, you know pathway would be for folks coming back over. And I'm wondering if there might be some need for any small amount of way finding to direct cyclists coming from the JC side to down and over. You know, the best route to get wherever they're going there on that I can't be more specific than that as I said I don't. I don't shop there and so I don't really have as much of a physical sense of what that looks like but hearing folks talk about trucks and all of that stuff. It does does make me worry a little bit. I will add my voice to the others. Putting the kibosh on the wandering sidewalk I live in. I've spent most of my time in some county living in Cotate and runner park where there are numerous very windy sidewalks that I never see anybody actually walking on and when I myself do have to walk on those areas they they do they add. And to your amount of distance you're walking and I think you could measure it, and it's, it's not just that it adds literal distance, it, it, I think the psychological experience of the distance that it adds might be greater than actual distance depending on how long and how it is. But if I'm walking somewhere across the freeway I'm going somewhere to do a particular task and it's not like a path for somebody to be taking a stroll on right they're trying to go to school or the store or go home or something so as much as it looks nice in the picture for the person who's actually walking I don't think the wandering sidewalk is particularly useful. Okay, I think that's it thank you very much for putting all of this together. I really appreciate those comments. And, you know, I'm going to just go ahead and circle back to comments you made about the Edwards side of the touchdown area and, you know, I'll make a I guess a comment that the city is currently looking at additional or excuse me, an independent project that will make, you know, some some improvements to update bike facilities and make, you know, potential other improvements along that. The Edwards, Edwards Avenue. We're currently looking at scoping that and looking for funding as well. And then you made a comment about wayfinding. And we've, we've heard from a number of community members, and that is something that will be included as part of this project will probably be a number of different wayfinding wayfinding locations in which a wayfinder will will direct you to signage, etc. So, thank you. Okay. We have looks like one more hand up. We have Jack, swear engine. Jack, I'm going to enable your permissions, your microphone has been unmuted. So, go ahead and state your name for the record if you choose, and then ask your question or make a comment. Hi, I'm Jack, swear engine. I chair friends of smart and my interest and involvement in this project goes back as far as several of these folk, including Gary Helfrich, who was the chair of Sonoma kind of bike coalition. And David Harris and others. So I'm, I'm listening to some of my colleagues from this pursuit for many years. My angle as chair of friends of smart has always been access between the smart station on going to a road or what did you call the steel lane. And, or the GC, and getting people to use the train to get to and from the GC has always been my interest. Except that. began, I started cycling because I couldn't do the exercise routines that I'd done before and since that time I've now biked 3,000 miles and so I learned many of the bike paths and the bike access points and difficult places and I really support this not just from the commuter point of view but also now from the bicyclist point of view. So that puts me in the camp with some of the others. I think that when we started, was it seven, ten years ago, Dix was opposed to the idea at least they feared they were concerned about losing visibility from Highway 101. However, this design in my view is so inviting that I think Dix should be delighted. It will attract eyes on and people who are just using the over crossing to get to and from will say, hey, I'm right at Dix. I should stop in there. I think it's a great attraction and therefore it's great and that's my closing comment. Thank you. Thank you, Jack. Really appreciate your comments. All right. Are there any other questions or comments, Steve? There are, Grant. I spoke too soon. We've got a few more that have popped in. The next person in our queue is David Harris. David, I'm going to enable your permissions. Your microphone has been unmuted. You can state your name for the record if you so choose and then ask your question or make a comment. Thank you. Yes, I'm speaking for a second time, but this presentation and the questions and the whole topic of wayfinding has caused me to think a bit more about the situation there. Indirecting people back toward the front side of Dix, I think, is an appropriate thing to do because that then gives you access into Cottingtown on the east side, into the stores to the north and northwest there more directly than getting people further down Edwards before they go north into Cottingtown parking lot. So I would think that would be a positive from Dix standpoint, but I think from everybody's standpoint in reality. So I'll leave it at that. Thank you. Thank you for that comment, David. And I do believe that is the direction of where we plan on taking is to, you know, other than if I guess it would be directing pedestrian traffic that is headed back towards Cottingtown more towards Cleveland and from from that entrance to the Cottingtown area or north of there. But the I believe the most direct access to the smart station would be down Elliot to I can't think. I'm sorry, I've lost the cross street down there. I want to say it's Jennings, but I don't think it's Jennings. Anyway, the cross street west that takes you to Kernville. Okay, we will move on to our next person in our queue. It looks like it's Frank Hague. Frank, I'm going to enable your permissions and your microphone has been unmuted. You may state your name for the record if you choose and then ask your question or make a comment. Frank, I believe you are muted. If you would unmute. Can you hear me? I can now. Thank you. I have two questions. One is on slide 23. We can't see slide 23. Can you go back or not? We can. Yes. Slide 22. That's not the one. 23. Oh, along Dick's Sporting Goods there. Well, maybe 21. Try 21. Dick's Sporting Goods. Okay. That loading area that was mentioned earlier that really is going to be a very difficult problem. I don't know how that's going to be solved because those big trucks coming and going. And I don't think you can ask Dick's to change their loading dock. That's my opinion. Number two, I don't see what you're going to do with that bus stop that's there. That was there. Is that going to be eliminated? And number three, about that crosswalk.  What's going to happen to that bus stop there? And then the other one was go back to the other slide so I could show you that was 21. Slide 21. Yeah, you'll see the crosswalk there. Is there going to be a signage there or a flashing device or what's going to happen? What kind of device is going to be there to protect or to warn drivers coming in up up and down Edwards? There's a lot of traffic on Edwards and they're very fast. Maybe you can answer those three questions for me. Thanks a lot. Absolutely, Frank. Yeah, so we'll just I'm going to go ahead and I think Natalina Bernardi with BKF Engineers is our consultant on this project. I'm going to ask you if you could just speak briefly to the turning analysis we did at Dix to discuss the loading dock. But first I'm going to go ahead and jump ahead to question two and three. So question two was regarding the bus stop elimination. So currently the bus stop on Edwards serves two transit agencies Amtrak and the Mendocino Transit Authority MTA. And MTA connects to this bus stop currently only to as a connector to the Amtrak service. By the end of this year, the city's transit department or division has worked with with Amtrak to relocate their Amtrak service point to the downtown transit area transit mall on Second Street. And with that relocation of Amtrak, there's really the need for MTA to also go to this location is pretty much eliminated. So their service point will also be moved to the Second Street location for the bus or the transit mall. And then just to talk briefly about the crossing and believe you're referring to what's what's called a rectangular rapid flashing beacon and RRFB. We have not at this crossing. Thanks, Lauren, for bringing that back up to my knowledge. I don't think that we have looked at this. You did make a comment about high speed vehicles. I will say that there is we have traffic traffic counts for that for Edwards indicate there's low traffic volumes, but we have received comments and concerns about the speed that vehicles travel on Edwards. And so part of maybe some of those improvements that I was referring to earlier as an independent project from the over crossing project would also be to install some traffic calming measures. And there's a number of different options out there. So I won't speak to exactly what we may be doing as I mentioned, we're still in the scoping phase. But either with the over crossing project and probably with the over crossing project, we will definitely take a look at the need to add additional indication that there will be a pedestrian crossing at this crosswalk, either through rectangular rapid flashing beacon or other meets. Natalie, did you want to touch real briefly on the turning analysis for the Dick's Loading Dock? Sure. We reviewed the concept. We did not want to affect Dick's and Dick's Loading Dock because they did not have an alternative location for the loading. So we did confirm that with the manager of the store how the vehicles enter and back into the Loading Dock and basically re-ran the turning maneuvers similar to what they do today to confirm that this project and all the elements that we're proposing that you see here do not conflict with that. That turning maneuver did, as I mentioned, require backup, did require going into Edwards and backing into the Loading Dock, but it did not require interference or interfacing with the proposed crosswalk location, which was important to us. Thank you, Natalie. All right, Steve, is there another question or comment in the queue? Sure, our grant. Our next person in the queue is Derek Wayne. Derek, I'm going to enable your permissions. Your microphone has been unmuted. You can state your name for the record if you wish and then ask your question or make your comment. Hello. Hello, thank you. I'd just like to echo some comments that I heard from Jack Swearingen and others about how much of a win this is for Codding Town and the stores in Codding Town, especially Whole Foods. I can speak to my experience as an urban cyclist, somebody who loves to run his errands on foot or on his bike, that being able to go to Whole Foods from the Santa Rosa Junior College or even from Santa Rosa High School is pretty awesome. Thank you. Thanks, Derek. Appreciate your comment. Steve, is there another comment or question? And there is. Our next person in the queue is Tom Helm. Tom, I'm going to enable your permissions. Your microphone has been unmuted and you can state your name for the record if you so choose then ask your question or make your comment. Yes, thank you. I'm Tom Helm and like others, I've watched this project for some years and I'm very happy to see that it's getting close to reality. I want to refer back to slide 21, if you would please. So basically my comment is about how bicycles and cars will share a lane. There's not the Edwards Avenue is wide enough to have bike lanes and car travel. And so you can see near the left side of the photograph, there's Sheryls on the road. I think a lot of people don't know what Sheryls or how they're supposed to be used as far as cycling and a little education would be good. One of your signings as they get off of the over crossing could explain what a Sheryl is supposed to be for. And you could use this slide as an example of what is really that's not the right way to make a Sheryl, a bicycle travel on Edwards Avenue. You can see down at the bottom right there's a car in the lane and the bike rider is close to the curb and it looks like the car will probably overtake the bike rider. The reason there's a Sheryl out there in the street is because the lane is not wide enough for both a car and a bike to the share and a bicycle should just what they call take the lane. The Sheryls are there with the point of the Sheryls intended to be the path of travel for the bicycle. If the bicycle is out there on the Sheryl the car definitely will see the cyclist and use caution to pass around it instead of try to squeeze by it. So I'm just saying that I think if Sheryls are going to be on the road it would be good to have a sign explaining what they're there for and how to use them. Thank you. Thank you Tom. I really appreciate that suggestion and I think something we'll definitely look into and whether it's a sign or some other way to you know spread some information about how to use Sheryls effectively and sounds like we may need to update our imagery here a little bit too. So I really thank you for pointing that out. Steve is there another question in the queue? Actually Grant that is our last question from our attendees. I agree. Grant this is Natalina. I noticed there was a question on the chat asking where the Sorry go ahead. No it was asking if we knew where the Amtrak bus stop would be relocated to. Was that been decided? Yes the Amtrak bus station will be relocated to the second street transit mall in downtown Santa Rosa. I believe it's between East Street and San Rosa Avenue. I believe it's on second street between East Street and San Rosa Avenue. It's where the transit mall is located and that will be relocated. The Amtrak station will be relocated by the end of the year. It's what I'm told. I also wanted to I guess just check in with Steve or Lauren. Have you guys been monitoring the chat to see if there are any questions that popped up that we haven't addressed yet? Like Natalina was referring to. Okay I'm looking now through our chat to see if there's anything that has not already been answered or directly asked by one of our attendees. Give me just one moment. No problem. I actually do not see any questions that have not either been directly asked or answered. All right thanks Steve. So just a quick summary. The 101 bike and pedestrian over crossing project is going to build a 14 and a half foot wide shared bike and pedestrian bridge over US 101. It'll connect academic, residential, commercial and recreational areas and transit hubs. We're really looking forward to developing the design of this project and maintaining an active community participation through this. As a reminder we will be having a there will be a design review board meeting anticipated for October 2021. So in a few months here where we'll be presenting a more detailed design with the approaches and the over crossing that is a public meeting and I'd really like to encourage everyone here who's been involved and beyond in the community to participate in that meeting to provide us input on what you think this project should be and then we will have a meeting following the design review board meeting in November of 2021. So with no further questions I'd like to express my sincere appreciation and thank members of the public and all the panelists and hosts for participating tonight. We appreciate your time. We appreciate you taking the time to listen to us and provide your input on the Santa Rosa Highway 101 bike and pedestrian over crossing project. I want to remind everyone that we have a project specific web page for the for this project at www.srcity.org slash bike head over crossing. We can find current information on the project status and some traffic email updates on the project. I also want to note that well there's the project website right there on the slide but there's my contact information as well. So please feel free to contact me if you have any questions about this project or any other projects going on in the city. I'm happy to work with you and take your input or questions. Thank you again and have a good night.


Fel ydych chi'n bwysig iawn, yn rhan dros y dweud, rwy'n fan hyfforddiant yn y gallu fathrach gan y Cymru Fygoedd, yn cras, inni, yma, 7-3 deisg yn 22-2. O pencil yw hyfforddiant yn byw.どodd yn cael sorg iechydig, wrth gwrs? Fygoedd yna, yn cael sorg iechydig. Rwy'n credu yna, rwy'n credu yna, na! Mae'n cael eich hunion? Mae'n cael eu cyfeirio ar gyfer y swyffc yn ei wneud i'r llwyddoll, ond pe fyddwn i'r llwyddoll yn ei gwneud. Mae'n cael ei wneud i'w cerddol i fyddwn i'r cyfeirio, ond ei ddim yn fawr ar y proses. Mae'n cael eu cerddol i'r cerddol i'r cyfeirio, a genious company, Meldrishwp, Ryfxen, Roel, Unified Community Partnership. On the task and finished group, which is working on this application for the underpass, so what I was going to suggest that if I am allowed, I will speak to it, but then one vote, that's okay. Thank you. Okay, moving on, new members as usual. Ieithwyl, mae geni'n gweithio'r byw yma, rwy'n gweithio'r cyfnodd y dweudio, ac mae hi'n芬od o'r dwylo'r cyfnodd, rwy'n gweithio'r dweudio'r cyfnodd, dwi'n gweithio'r dwylo. Mae'n gweithio'r dwylo, mae'n gweithio'r dwylo, mae'n gweithio'r dwylo. Nawr, maen nhw dyfodd y cwmint, dwi'n gweithio'r dweudio'r dwylo'r dwylo'r dwylo'r cyfnodd.  Ynny'n gwybod i gyd yma, ddodd yma. Rwy'n rai'n gwneud, ein bod ni'n nhw'n rai'n ei fod yn bwysig i chi, Jane nhw'n gyfer y tafnod. Mae'n rhywbeth Jane, mae'n ei gweithio i chi ddiwedd yn rai, rwy'n gyntaf i chi dda i gwybod a'u gweithio i chi felly mae'n rai'n gweithio i chi ddau lleidol y community chest reports. Rwy'n gweithio i chi, Jane. Rwy'n gweithio i chi, dwi'n gweithio i chi. Rwy'n gweithio i chi, rwy'n gweithio i chi. Rwy'n gweithio i chi, Jane. Gwyddo i gydag i gydig di'n cael ei gydig. Ac yna'r dayd gyda'r hynny. Dyna'r dayd. 298.60. So, the first application is the Meldrith, Sheprith, and Foxham Community Rail Partnership on page nine. So, this was formed in 2013 and aims to develop links with schools and local businesses associated with our local rail services and to enhance sustainable transport links in the wider area. So, I will briefly just go through it. Basically, there is a Meldrith to Melbourne A10 underpass improvement project, which started in December 2020. There was a sexual assault at the underpass and a survey has gone out to local residents, commuters and local school children and basically it's identified that the underpass is considered intimidating. This is mainly due to lack of lighting, overgrowth of vegetation and out of date and graffiti artwork. And you can see the pictures there to demonstrate this. So, again, so lighting, obviously a main thing, vegetation. I've talked about that there artwork. So, basically what they would like to do is with the lighting, they would like to make it, I mean, obviously, you know about this chair, but make it less, make it a bit brighter by using a certain type of paint so that it reflects it in a different way, cut back some of the vegetation and install a camera as well. So that, you know, and also lighting, I think, is lighting at different times, which is different to the main lighting. So it's controlled separately to give it more light. So this would again tackle antisocial behaviour, enhance the environment and also provide a creative opportunities for young people to develop the artwork that would go inside. And this would be sprayed with anti graffiti paint afterwards. And they would work with a school and a local artist on this. So total project costs are seven thousand and seventy five pounds. And as you can see, that would be to install a solar dial timer, time clock controller. The art workshops, materials, art installation. They've applied to two thousand pounds from us. They've also made some applications to other organisations, including the Community Rail Development Fund of two thousand five hundred, the contractors to the Science Park and Brentwood Cytech. That's to be announced. And also the parish councils of Melbourne and Meldrith. Like you said, councillor, Joes, you are on the task and finish group along with Sally Ann Hart. So you're very much in support. So that's my very brief for me description of it. Thanks Emma. Right, colleagues, what I'm going to do is I'm going to hand over to Sue. So I'm relieved of the thing. I mean, if I may speak to you just quickly, that's OK. Yes, you do. So as Emma said, this is a really needed project. It's there are literally nearly a dozen various organisations along the way that have been approached for help, whether it be advice, money, service, you know, work and what have you say. It's actually a very, a very rounded project and you get to sit in every box that we have, every box we tick. So as you can obviously hear from Emma, she said I'm extremely supportive of this. And this was, as I would say, was triggered by an assault on a person in December 20, which was rather it came very close to not been. So that was, yeah, that's not something that is quite disturbing. So that was that was the reason for all of this. And as I said, the surveys and what have you have come back with a vast wealth of information. So that's good. I'll hand over to Sue for this one for anything else from you guys. Thanks. Any questions, Judith? I'm just to say I'm fully supported of this application. I support it. I just wondered whether you could. I don't think I've found it. Let me know how well used this pulse is going to be. It's actually pretty well used now. There's a lot of schoolchildren using it because there was an arrangement made with Thames, Govia, Templin, Govia for a cheap affair. So there was lots of children going from the college. That was unfortunately at the end of the day. Obviously a lot of people going for the train for work. Following the assault, there was another another route and it was overgrown. So we were seeing people divert off and walking down sides of the road and disappeared to get around to the station that way. And ironically, we were just standing there. Some officers from the district and County and myself. Susan van der Ven and Sally Ann. We were standing there talking and discussing the thing and we saw people coming along, children, teenagers who would stop and go back. They would not come towards us. So we kind of brought it home a little bit. So it's actually very well used. And are the two other officers of money or hopeful of some money dependent on us agreeing this award grant? I'm not sure you might be able to help chair on this one. I think every application that's been made is to allow the project to run forward. The the noises coming from all the ones that are still to be agreed are very positive noises. It was just for catching up with meetings and stuff like that with the various parishes and things like that. But the bruntwood site tech is the technology partnership, the TTP site. TTP have essentially sold their site or at least offer 250 years to this investment company who are a site tech investment company. They're redeveloping and so they're now taking that site. So they are very much in the community minded and they are actively encouraging that all of the staff on the site to use public transport. So this is another reason why it's so much there. It all sounds extremely positive and certainly I would support it. I think that means we all support it. So I think we can say yes, please. OK, I'll pass back to you. Thank you very much, Catherine. OK, Emma, on to number two, please. Fesi, yes, by the way, I believe. By page 11, we have the Swaithersy Squash Club. This is a not for profit community sports facility formed in 1975. It currently has 220 members who pay £17 a month for membership. The committee was run by volunteers. It's got a number of aims, which you can see there. It's welcomes players of all ages and every socio demographic group. Because of the excellent road conditions, parking and access by other guided bus, the cycle makes the club basically a convenient location. And there are not many squash courts in South Cambridgeshire, so a lot of people come from far and wide. And the club has got three squash courts, changing facilities and a viewing and lounge area. But what's happened is over the years due to wear and tear, the squash courts are now in a state of disrepair. Normally they last about 30 years before replacement, and these are 47 years old. And some of the parts that are needed are quite urgently needed. Mainly you would need to sort of replaster the walls and also put some more flooring in, some wooden flooring. Total project costs are around £19,100. £19,100, sorry. And that's to replaster court one, do the floor in court one, and then court two floor and court three floor. They've got reserves to cover most of the outlay, but need help with the final £4,500 and they've applied for £2,000. Further applications have been made to the Mick George fund. They're waiting the outcome of that one. And also the Suave Sea Parish Council. That's for £1,000 and they're also awaiting an outcome. Green options have been considered and they use marble in the plaster, which is ground up reused marble. And the wood that is used for the floor is from a sustainable source. Councillor Sue Wellington, we have your approval as well. So over to you. Thanks Emma. I was going to say to Sue that when he's done that, we should go and have Emma Squash, you reckon? I've never played Squash in my life. OK, thank you Emma for that. Colleagues, any comments? Other than this seems like a totally valid project and one we should be supporting. I support it, yeah. Much obliged, OK. That's a yes then Emma, thank you. OK, lovely. OK, so on to page 12, we have the Meldrith Crisis Community Support group. This is a venture that was initially set up during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic. Previously known as the Meldrith Coronavirus Community Support group. And what they want to do is set up a winter emergency food bank using the expertise and cash reserves to help support members of the community during the cost of living crisis. So obviously that's coming up now. The well it is now, should I say? The food bank will be housed in the storage cupboards at Elinway, Elinway, I don't know how to pronounce that one, Elinway, the community centre and opened once a week and accessible by direct mobile to food bank, sorry, accessible by the direct mobile to the food bank coordinator. Drop off boxes for contributions will be located in the village. Communication will go up to every household, so it will be widely publicised. And they would like one thousand one hundred and forty five pounds from the community chest for some lockable steel storage cupboards with three shelves. And also the rates which we've is that is charged at five pounds an hour, I found out. And they've since said since this this report was published that they the initial plan is to run for four hours a week, which equates to five hundred and twenty pounds in obviously the room higher. The cupboards are made of recyclable material, no plastic. And yeah, so yeah, so it's obviously a positive thing. And also they will be available to others to use in the event of the food bank discontinued continuing after the planned term that they have got in place. So hopefully will be a sort of long term thing. Chair, you are in support. Any questions on this one? So later. I'm just wondering are we are we decide what exactly food wise are we storing in these cupboards, will it be the proper temperature, et cetera? I don't know what sort of food stuff we're going here. It's going to be non perishable stuff. So you're sort of bog stand of sort of tins and things that have got a long expiry date on them. So it wouldn't be anything that would be perishable. Any other questions, Judith? So in that case, are we in agreement? Yeah, agreed. Thank you very much. Agreed. Okay. So on to page 14, we have the A10 corridor cycle campaign. This was formed in 2013 and to promote and to provide a coherent body of public support with a view to ensuring that the area between Royston and Cambridge was considered for improvements to active travel schemes such as improved cycling and walking infrastructures. Currently, they have 150 members, a broad range of people that are on the committee and what they would like to do is install six secure cycle racks at Foxham Village Shop and the White Horse Pub. These are key amenities in the village in the centre. So this would obviously encourage active travel and more trips by bicycle, as well as raising the profile of everyday cycling within the village. So to supply and fit sixth Sheffield stands is one thousand three hundred and fifty three pounds sixty, of which all is being requested from the community chest. The Foxham Village Shop and the White Horse Pub in Foxham will contribute one hundred pounds to make up the shortfall. We also have support from councillor, Dr. James Hobrow, and he is in close contact with with with the group with this application. So over to you. Thanks, I know this group very well. I often meet them when I'm not on a bike. But they are an incredibly active group just to just to let members know that the White Horse Pub and the Village Shop are almost opposite each other and within literally spitting distance of each other. So these these stands, I understand from councillor Hobrow, are going to be multi use for anybody. Basically, if you're going to the shop and they're for you, you can use the others and vice versa. So it kind of makes sense. OK, Sue first in Judith, please. I'm concerned about the security of the cycle racks. Yes, they're in public view, but it in swathes who we are having extreme problems with bikes being left in the rack on the guided bus. One goes missing at least once a week and usually more than that. However many locks they have on them. And it really does seem to me that there is the opportunity for it for the bikes to go missing and not be returned. I don't know if I'm being a bit too particular here, but this is the kind of thing that I thought would come to zero carbon communities application being an act of travel, greening kind of idea. I'm not I'm not sure if it's coming to the right thing, but possibly that doesn't matter. And it's more of a question, really. I think I have a feeling that this went to the zero carbon, but it was too small to some, so I think that's yeah. Although zero carbon communities for £1,000 up to £15,000, I think it fits in here because obviously one of the aims of the community chest is obviously to promote well-being as well. Obviously it's green, it's a green way of travel as well. So it can kind of go into either. But I think, like Joe's health says, is because it basically is quite a low amount, but it could it could go into both. But I think because also this is a monthly committee in the zero carbon communities, one is a yearly fund. It just depends on timings as well. OK, so I suppose it doesn't matter which pot it comes out of as long as another pot is sort of deprived by being in the wrong place. But although obviously I'm really supportive of things which increase active travel and on the security point of view, if they are really well positioned where there's good sight lines and they're well used, it's a bit of a vicious circle, isn't it? If lots of people use them, lots of people walking around, they're less likely to be taken, but then people won't use them. If they fear they will be taken that if it's in a good visible place, I feel more, you know, more happy about the security. I'd like to come to Councillor John Williams, only member of finance, who's got his hand up, so. Thank you, chair. I have to say, experiencing Cornwall High Street is the opposite that people leave their bikes there and they're not, they're just left and it's left to the parish council to have to somehow saw the lock off to get them to take them away. You know, I'm quite happy with this. I think it's a really good facility. Picking up the members for the reason it's come here is because we made a decision last year, I think, when we were looking at the zero carbon funds, that the small ones should come to this committee. For the very reason that, as Emma said, this committee meets every month, they don't have to wait whole year. And it also meant that they might actually miss out because of a bigger scheme taking precedent over them. So we actually made a decision, I think it was last year or year before even, that such small schemes should come to community chess. So it is the right place for this.  So I'm very accurate to support this. Thank you, John. Thank you for that explanation. Any more comments from colleagues? So are we in agreement or otherwise? Yes. Thank you, Emma. I'll see you for the next one. Lovely. This is our first or only biodiversity project on page 15 from Cambridge past, present and future. So they've been operating for more than 95 years and they own, care for and open to the public following sites. Wunderbury Country Park, Cotun Countryside Reserve, Cambridge Leopard Chapel, Bournemill and Hinkston Watermill. And their aim is to protect the amenities, green spaces, historic buildings, character and setting of Cambridge and its neighbourhood for the benefit of the public. And they also run a programme of over 100 educational, cultural and recreational events. Currently, there are 2,000 members each paying £27 or £37 a year. And this project is at Wunderbury Country Park, which is well used. It they would like to enhance biodiversity with a small scale nature project and they will do this by creating a pollinator garden to provide a food source and habitat for invertebrates. It will also help with the pollination of a nearby orchard whose fruit goes to food banks and also a beehive that is used for school visits. The area is within the former walled garden of the Wunderbury State and has been chosen because it's warm and sheltered, so it's better for planting. The planting plan has been designed by a volunteer who is a retired water culturist and the planting scheme will be a mulched dry garden, so it requires less water. So basically they would also engage with visitors and volunteers with the initial planting, watering and weeding of the garden. And obviously it has links, plants and pollinators and encourages people to take action on climate change. And you can see a little picture of the plan there. Total project costs are £3,720 and £2,000 has been requested from the community chest. And you can see that's broken down into staff costs, plants themselves and soil, weed mats, mulch, seating area as well, that's part of the projects and equipment, such as rotivators and things like that. They've made some applications to the Cambridge Community Foundation, the Pebble Fund and the Great Big Green Week, although the last two were unsuccessful, but they're still wasting the outcome of the Cambridge Community Foundation application. Any shortfalls will be met through fundraising and if they have any excess funds, they have confirmed that they would have some sort of discussions on basically how things would be run, how money would be allocated, returned and accepted. So it's well thought out. Both Siobhan Mellon, our climate environment development officer and John Cornel, our natural environment team leader are both in support, they haven't got any issues with it. And as has Councillor Peter Fane, he's very much in support as well. Thank you Emma, colleagues. Any questions, Judith? It just looks like a really good application. Senator. I think it's very good to have anything to do with nature for people's mental health as well. Sorry. In that case, I think we have a unanimous approval. Thank you. Lovely. OK, so on to page 17. This is the first of our deferred applications. This is Camborn Church. This was deferred from July's Grants Advisory Committee meeting. Basically, if you remember, this was the oven at the church and we were deliberating what the questions that were raised were, would they consider an electric oven as opposed to the gas oven on the original application? They've provided some further information. They have stated that their preferred option was the electric oven, which is a little bit more expensive at five thousand and thirty four pounds. And they did say they have said in this email that if they were awarded two thousand pounds from the community chest, the church will contribute the remaining four thousand pounds or so needed for the oven and its installation. So I hope that some further information will be sufficient. Yeah, thank you, because that was that was a sticking point, I think, wasn't it? So yeah, I can see John nodding, Sue's nodding, Judith and Senator, do you have anything to say? Just that, yeah, we should be helping to provide something which is more sustainable and yeah, especially with current prices of gas. This might also be in the long term a better option anyway, even if the outlay is higher at the moment. Senator. Yes, you're OK. Yeah, thank you very much. That's a yes from us in the thank you. And could you could you pass on our thanks to the the applicants for this particular one for taking the trouble to come back and reassess and what have you? Of course, we're grateful they've done that. And we're obviously grateful that we can help them in thanks. Absolutely. OK, so on to page 19. This is the other deferral from Hope Against Poverty Community Interest Company. This was deferred from August's Grant's Advisory Committee meeting. And if you remember, this was to do with them, they would like to provide some Christmas hampers to those that are in need within the whole of the district. The application was deferred depending details of the following details. The first was information about the measures in place to assess eligibility for the hampers. They have said that they referrals come from various organisations such as Cambridge County Council, ourselves, the Town Council, Cambridge Sustainable Food and the Patworth Trust. They target groups that aren't they don't have access to benefits, so perhaps people that maybe work at full time on minimum wages or zero hour contracts that might have a few children as well. So they might be struggling to obviously with the cost of living crisis as well. It might be quite difficult for them to afford nice food. The food project has been running for the last 11 months and there are 178 registered members who are eligible for a free food parcel once a week. And when they receive new nominations, the beneficiary is invited to the food project where data is collected and eligibility assessed. So did you want to discuss that point first before I move on to the next or do you want me to talk about the other ones as well? I can just just go through it. Just go through all the people if you wouldn't mind. Of course. So the second point was where toys are provided. Do they comply with fire and health and safety standards? They said that toys aren't normally included unless there's a special request. And in these cases, they are carefully selected to ensure that they do comply with these standards. Third point, further information on about the how the 250 pound delivery cost was calculated. Now they've broken it down into cost per kilometre, which works out at 35 pounds. Packaging costs 25 pounds. Delivery driver costs of 150 pounds. And he would do roughly about 16 hours. And then the volunteers costs for any kind of refreshments or anything they need whilst they're providing all this good work. And he's also said that any kind of profits, I think that was a question. Who is the beneficiary of any profits made? They don't make any profits, is what we've been told. Yes, so if you've got any questions. Over to you. Thanks Emma. OK. So this project looks like it's going to be run between Campbell and Town Council. SCDC. Did I hear you mention County as well? That's the referrals, isn't it from County? Yes, that's the referrals. It's quite a wide area of involvement, if you like, from local authorities, if you like. Yeah, because it benefits the whole of the district. It's not just Cambon itself, it's anybody within the district. OK, before I come to colleagues in the room here, can I go to Councillor Williams just to have his take and obviously lead member for finance for SCDC? So we're obviously involved in this, John. Can I have some guidance on this from your good self? Thanks. Well, OK, well, the issue I've got is still the distribution costs. And I hear the breakdown, which it seems to start with, you know, it seems to me that they put a figure on the distribution of the delivery cost, and then they divvied that up between the various elements of that, rather than starting off this is what seems to me anyway. It's starting off by looking at the actual cost of delivery and then producing a total cost for the delivery. As I say, that's the area I have an issue with. If the committee feels that that is reasonable, then I'll go along with committee, but that is my... Otherwise, I would be happy to give a yes to this project. I still have this issue about their costs of delivering the food parcels, but it seems to be excessive. So anyway, but I'm happy to hear what you've got to say and, you know, to go with what you decide. Thanks, John. OK. I'm going to have a seat after myself. Well, you go first, Segal. I go with you, John, in that they are delivering food to these people. All these people are coming and collecting food from the hub. So why are we now paying a delivery driver £150 to deliver them? If you understand me, it's not being picky or have I missed something? It's your job to be picky. Any colleagues, anybody else? Sinitha? I agree with Councillor LinkedIn. I think that if people can pick things up, then that's good. Or pick it up for themselves and other people. It seems like they're doing some of this anyway. With the food parcels, so I agree with the driver and the cost of it. Judith. Yeah, it does seem a bit excessive. I mean, on the other hand, they're not going to know who's going to. It's quite hard to judge who is going to want these parcels from where ahead of time. So it's kind of, yeah, I think I find it quite difficult to work out how they come to that figure in a way, because are they assuming that everyone who wants one of these parcels is going to live miles away and will need somebody to drop it off? Or as Councillor Hans Vars has said, people tend to club together and get somebody to go and collect and distribute, or they come to the hub. It just seemed like quite a lot, and I'm not quite sure how they have got to that figure. OK, I'm not sure if I'm the only person in the room who's been amongst drop delivery driver in his past, but I've done this.  Right, so they're just assuming they're looking at the 60s or 80s. That's a fair old day's work, if you're going to be doing that anyway. But I take everyone's point with regards to people will turn up and take their own homes, so to speak. John, if you were minded to support this, perhaps there's a halfway house that when we we go back, if there is an approval from colleagues that there's the caveat that it will be a requirement for this money to keep a record of those parcels and what have you, that were actually delivered and using a delivery system rather than a walk in or volunteers. So if they've still got the cost of racking and all the rest of it, I appreciate that if they're making it look nice and what have you. But the actual cost of a delivery driver, they're looking at, was it 35 quid? I think you said, Emma, where it was. If we keep a record and then we can perhaps discuss that any any leftover of that delivery quantity of 250 quid as to what will be done with it and they come back and because they're going to be a report, isn't there, coming back to us. So we expect that to be in the report, the data to be in the report.  Yeah, I think that that would obviously hopefully mean that they would accept that that they need to also need to keep those on the cost of distribution. The only other way that we could do it is is to reimburse them for all the distribution costs rather than rather than give them the money up front. That we we would pay obviously they would have to provide us with the the necessary, you know, provide us with an invoice in effect or an itemised invoice of of of the various journeys and the cost. And then we would we would fund those journeys up to a certain amount. But that would be done retrospectively. It would be done after the event and they may not have that might cause them a cash flow problem. But otherwise it's a committee, you know, is happy to say. We'll give you we'll we'll give you the money. But at the end of the when we come to review how the money is being spent, we will expect you to account for the distribution costs. And that that that may well then ensure that the money is spent in a prudent way. That's to say, that's my only my only problem with this. It is unusual that think of many food banks that actually go and deliver food parcels, so it's in to expect people to come to them and make arrangements to come to them. But. Perhaps we should we could we could use this as a as a trial in a way and and see and it would give us if it obviously give us the experience for a future. Should we have these should we have further requests or applications like this? So really, I'm really, you know, not but I can persuade in one way or the other really about this about this application. I'm reluctant for us to go back again to them on this because I don't think we'll get very much more out of this distribution matter. And clearly, we. We could give them. Presumably, Emma, we I mean, we could give them. Well, minus the cost of the distribution element of what they've asked for. Absolutely say, here you are, you know, we'll fund, we'll fund you, but not the distribution bit because we're not. Clear as to the true cost of that distribution. You haven't you still haven't made it clear. And maybe we could suggest to them that how about we refund you the cost of those of that distribution provided you provide us with the with with an itemised invoice? I am I've spoken to one of the officers in the team because they get they got some funding back in January. I think it's some death refunding that they they had of food related some funding and speaking to the officer, he said that this the person set up the company. He's invested a lot of his own funds and he's really passionate about this and he just wants to give back to the community. So I think and he's very responsible on his emails. When I email him, he comes back within a day. He's he's really good. I have confidence in them. I really do. OK, well, well, well, well, let's say then we will do it this time, but we expect them to provide this with the evidence for the cost of distribution at the end of the year. You know, when when when we come to do the review six months is six months. When do we? It's one year. It's one year. Yeah. OK, so when we come to review them in 12 months time, we expect them to justify the cost of the distribution. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, John. So I think where we were going, so I'm going to come to Syran in June from the second, but we're going with this is Emma, that we'd like a document one way or the other can be whatever they'd like. Yeah, we'd like to know how many were delivered by the driver, how many were picked up in person, how many were picked up and delivered by volunteers, somebody else, how many took multiple friends and relatives and whatever. And I suppose it could be really pedantic and ask for the fuel cost and the drive and the van cost, if you like. And I think that way then we can, as John said, we can then get some data out of this as to any other applications that might come to us in the future. Absolutely. That's all I can put that in the email. I can put that in the email that goes out to them with the caveats. And about the report, I could mention all those points. I would say that's a prerequisite. It wasn't a request, it was a demand. I think this is, it's not, it's not, it's no choice. You will be provided information. And I'm wondering whether or not, because this is unusual when we are going slightly off off-piste, if you like, to a degree, is if we say they're going to have a lot of this data within six months because it's coming over the Christmas period. So I would say that I'd like to hear this for our January or February committee meeting, whichever it is, Kira. That way we can hopefully allay the lead member for finances, fears and what have you put it that way. So if if colleagues in the room are happy with that suggestion that that will be a firm request that they will comply with. Yeah. Because we're going off-piste with this, we wouldn't normally give money for delivery. Great. So then Judith. I suppose the only exit thing, I agree with what you just said and I'm happy to go that one, but the thing is the people aren't getting the parcels now. Why can't these hampers be delivered with their parcel for the week? You know that they're getting them. It says here that they're getting delivered on Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays and they get a parcel a week. So why don't the hampers go with the parcel for the week? If they did. So it just it just smacks slightly of being taken for a ride. That's that's the only thing that bothers me. I was going to suggest like giving them slightly less than 2000. But also doing a sort of possible rebate system along the lines of what you've described, cancer hails. And also I don't want to be unkind, but doesn't that also sharpen the mind of how you're going to deliver them, what order, you know, so you do your route so it costs less fuel. And as cancer Ellington said, you can double up surely if they're having deliveries already. I don't see why it's an extra cost to be frank. I'm a bit, yeah, I think maybe a slightly lower amount. If they deliver in the volume, they deliver and they won't get them in the van. It's as simple as that. It's a volume state, I think. So. I think John mentioned it earlier about there may be an issue with cash flow. I'm going to sneeze, excuse me. Sorry. I think this let's go with John's. John's comfortable with paper. I think if we go down the route, if we need the data, which replied six, six months rather than a 12 months, and then we'll have to do where they will have their report of the 12 months. Anyway, that will be a prerequisite for this. And then we can see what's what. I mean, yeah, I think John's happy with that. And he seemed to be I would like to go with that if that's OK with you guys. Yeah, yeah, OK, that's a yes. Then on those those caveats, Emma, thank you. And thank you, John, for your report. That's the last one in, isn't it? It is, yes. Thank you very much. That's absolutely brilliant. I'm glad everybody got what they wanted today. Thank you very much, John, for can I before you before you wind up the meeting two things, first of all, congratulations to on your award.  So I've just read about. World deserved. And the second is, you know that at four council, we passed the motion about the cost of living crisis and one of the recommendations was to ask me to ask you to look at somehow, including in the criteria for future application organisation doing to help those on low incomes. You know, it could be, for example, a lower fee. It could be well, such as the one we've just dealt with, which is an obvious one, you know, having a food bank. But can you please, therefore, you know, officers and committee, have a look at that and come back at the next meeting with with some recommendations for me, if that's possible. Not problem at all. Thank you very much. A gang to sort us out and then, yeah, be ready. Okey-doke. In that case, then, just thank you to any members of the public who have been watching, thank you to the officers for running the meeting, Emma for doing all the work and Jane for helping, obviously for John for saying yes, such a nice man, looks like Father Christmas, acting like one, that's excellent. And thank you to my colleagues. All right, thank you very much.


I'm Samvaknin and I'm the author of Malignan Self-Love, Narcissism Revisited. This is the third video in a series about coping strategies and techniques with narcissists and psychopaths in intimate relationships. Be sure to watch the rest of the series. Today we will map out techniques of coping with narcissistic and psychopathic abusers. Not all these techniques apply to all abusers. Listen to the other, watch the other videos in this series to decide which technique to adopt in which situation. Right now we are just going to map the territory. The first technique is to mirror the abuser's behavior. Mirror his actions, repeat his words. If, for instance, he is having a rage attack, rage back. If he threatens, threaten back and credibly try to use the same language, the same content. If he leaves the house, leave the house as well, disappear on him. If he is suspicious, act suspicious and jealous. Be critical, denigrate him, humiliate him, go down to his level. The other technique is to frighten him. Identify the vulnerabilities and susceptibilities of the narcissistic and psychopathic abuser and strike repeated escalating blows at them. If a narcissist is a secret or something he wishes to conceal, use your knowledge to threaten him. Of course, do so legally and only after you have consulted an attorney. Drop cryptic hints that there are mysterious witnesses to the events and recently revealed evidence. Do it cleverly, do it non-committally, gradually, in an escalating manner, and of course again in a legal way. Let his imagination do the rest. We don't have to do much except utter a vague reference, make an ominous allusion, delineate a possible turn of events. Needless to add that all these activities have to be pursued legally, preferably through the good services of law officers and in broad daylight. If done the wrong way, they might constitute extortion or blackmail, harassment and a host of other criminal offenses. They can also backfire and provoke the narcissistic and psychopathic abuser into violence and aggression.  Listen and watch the other videos in this series to make up your mind which technique applies when and to whom. The next technique is to lure the abuser. Offer the abuser continued narcissistic supply. You can make a narcissist do anything by offering, withholding or threatening to withhold narcissistic supply, adulation, admiration, attention, sex, awe, subservience or even the appearance of being fearful. Play on his fears of abandonment is the next technique. If nothing else works, explicitly threaten to abandon your abuser. You can condition the threat. You can say, if you don't do something, or if you do do something, I will desert you. The narcissist perceives the following sentences as threats of abandonment, even if they are not meant as such. He perceives every confrontation, every fundamental disagreement or protracted criticism as a sign of abandonment. He perceives abandonment when he is completely ignored or when you insist on respect for your boundaries, needs, emotions, choices and preferences. When you retaliate, for instance, when you shout back at him, all these in the narcissist's mind equate abandonment. Finally, this is the technique that I recommend the most and always. Refuse all contact. Be sure to maintain as much contact with your abuser as the courts, counselors, mediators, guardians or law enforcement officials mandate, but no more. Do not contravene the decisions of the system. Work from inside the system to change judgments, evaluations or rulings, but never rebel against the system. The courts, the police, never ignore them. You will only turn the system against you and against your interests and you will be labeled the abuser instead of the victim. But with the exception of this minimum, mandated by the courts, decline any and all gratuitous contact with the narcissist or psychopath. Do not respond to your abuser's pleading, to romantic, nostalgic, flattering or threatening email messages. Return all the gifts that he sends you. Refuse inventory to your premises. Do not even respond to the intercom. Do not talk to him on the phone. Hang up the minute you hear his voice while making clear to him in a single polite but firm sentence that you are determined not to talk to him ever again. Do not answer his letters. Do not visit him on special occasions or in emergencies when he is sick. Do not respond to questions, requests or pleas forwarded to you through or via or by third parties. Disconnect from third parties whom you know are spying on you at your abuser's behest.  Do not gossip about your abuser. Do not ask him for anything, even if you are in dire need and dire straits. When you are forced to meet your abuser, do not discuss your personal affairs or raise them. Do not discuss his personal affairs or raise them as well. Relegate any inevitable contact with him when and where possible to professionals, to your lawyer, to your accountant, to the police, to judges or to court officials. But is there anything you can do to avoid abuses and narcissists to start with? Are there any warning signs or any identifying marks, rules of thumb to shield you from the harrowing and traumatic experience of an abusive relationship? We have a special video which deals with these issues. Be sure to watch it.


It's a national, it's nationally recognized month to get people involved that rape happens. People are being raped, they're not reporting it, they're afraid. Sam is basically putting it out there that yes, it's okay to report it.  No one acts to be raped, nobody acts to be harmed. And it's happening and people need to be aware of it. I wasn't aware of it in high school. Rape was something that I saw on TV, this guy comes jumping out, grabs you. And you get drugged into an alley and you're beaten and you're screaming.  I get to the Navy, I take this Veterans Affairs, this Victims Advocates class. And I learned that it's your friends that are doing these things to you. It's loved ones, it's people at home that you thought loved you or cared about you. And that's where most of these rapes are occurring. And basically what we're doing today was some self-defense training. And it was getting my sailors at AC1 involved with Sam's month. And I thought the best way to do it was to allow them to be proactive. This is also helping to build confidence.