In this chat we're going to address the common misconceptions involved with some ancient texts discovered and translated and the subsequent doctrines that have come out of them. We're going to read this from biologos.org. This is Gilgamesh, Atrahasis, and the Flood. The biblical Flood story, Genesis 6 through 9, has certainly taken a beating over the last two or three centuries. The problems began once geologists realized that a literal submersion was contradicted by clear scientific evidence. And now this right here, I mean it's really a bold-faced lie. Total misinterpretation of things. Keyword right here is realized. Look it up. So then in the beginning of the 19th century archaeologists found other flood stories from Israel's neighbors that looked a lot like Genesis and were much older. Looked a lot like Genesis. That's like saying a cow looks like a horse. But we'll get into that. Maybe the biblical story is just a plagiarized version of these older stories and you wouldn't believe how many people actually believe that. All right. First of all, the much older part, find evidence. Find it. There isn't any. There's suppositions. There's appearances. There's maybes. There's guesswork involved. But no one knows how old either of these stories are. We simply don't know. We can guess from when they were written, but we don't know how old they are. And that's a key problem in this whole discussion. Continuing on. The scientific issues were addressed on this blog several months ago and a series of posts. I'm going to focus on the theological issues raised by the other flood stories or the older flood stories from Mesopotamia. It just goes with the assumption that they're older and that they're from Mesopotamia. Because they were found there and they were in Mesopotamian script, doesn't mean the story came from there. And that's where archaeologists and historians and all them get so confused. I'll try to get into that more as we go. The stories known to us as the Atrahasis Epic and the Gilgamesh Epic both include stories of a cataclysmic flood. The similarities between these stories and the biblical story are well known striking and incontrovertible. That's a lie. And I'll explain. Alright, first let's summarize Atrahasis. The version we have probably dates to about the 17th century BC. Keyword here is probably and about. They don't know. And it is a retelling of a story that is certainly older. That is accurate. Part of this story recounts a flood. The gods, which should be lords, but 17th or 1700s and 1800s translators, equated the word Lord with the word God because of Catholic practices. And so they translated lords as gods. The gods had created humans to be their slave laborers. Well, that's not what the story says, but it's close. And it goes with the translation. So he's accurate by the accepted English translation. And I'll explain why it's wrong later. The slaves were becoming too noisy. And this disturbed the gods. The god Enlil, which is not a name. It is a title. It's an office. Decreed that humans should be destroyed in a flood. Atrahasis, through the help of the god Ea, which is also a title, not a name, escapes the wrath of Enlil by building a large boat in which to save humanity. Some scholars argue that noise suggests rebellion against the gods and their forced labor. Humans fail to respect blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, but this right here suggests they're guessing. Follow along here. The Gilgamesh epic is named after its main character Gilgamesh, which isn't a good translation, but it's what everyone knows it as. A king of the Sumerian city of Uruk. Now that should say Shinar, not Sumer. Everyone knows that Sumer was the inappropriate translation of the letters. It should say Shinar, which means land of the two rivers. Or of the two rivers. Okay. Uruk. Let's see if I can show you something here. If I can find it. Let's see here. Right here. Here we go. Kurukshetra. It's in India. Shhetra means region. Are you seeing what's right here? Uruk. Okay, and that's just a hint if you want to learn stuff for yourself. So we don't know that it was a Sumerian city. We don't even know if the story takes place in Sumer of Babylon, right, the Middle East. We don't know where Uruk is, but we do know that there was a tablet found in Babylon talking about a city called Uruk, and they assume that that means that city is Uruk. But what did I just show you here? Predating that is Kurukshetra, which is the region of the land of Uruk. Something like that. It's hard to... anyway. Kshetra means region. Uruk is in there. It's region of Uruk. Properly translated. Look, look. Kshetra. Now look at Kurukshetra. It's Kshetra with Uruk in it. You do the same thing with a lot of German words. You split them around the sentence. It's not uncommon. This is the region called Uruk. Far predates anything in Sumer. Now let's continue. Gilgamesh is supposed to be a historical figure who ruled sometime between 2800 and 2500 BC. These dates were chosen to fit in the appropriate evolutionary timeline. It is pretty close to the actual timeline, but really it's not possible from what empirical evidence we have to determine when he ruled. You can make a guess, but that guess is based on current paradigms and theories. So other suppositions and presuppositions and assumptions go into determining this date. Okay? No one knows. So there's obvious changes that have happened in Gilgamesh. They think the story of Gilgamesh was adopted from Atrahasis. Adapting older stories is an important point for us to keep in mind as we think of the biblical flood story. Okay? The authors of Gilgamesh and Atrahasis, not to mention the Enuma Elish, which is a more important work, all transformed older Sumerian stories for their own time and purposes. Yes, they did. Absolutely. Now they skip the obvious conclusion there and then they say this same pattern is at work in the biblical flood story. The biblical story is also a reworking of older well-known themes for a fresh purpose. Well, yeah, sure. But the authors of Gilgamesh, Atrahasis, and Enuma Elish, which are all creation epics, that's what they're called anyway, all transformed older Sumerian stories for their own times and purposes. Now I already explained that we don't know if they are from the region that we all call Sumer. They were found there in that script, but that doesn't mean the stories came from there. But what they're saying is they were used there for their own purposes. And so what we should know is that those texts were altered from the original story. And so why would we base doctrine and our own worldview on something that we know was altered from the original? Think about that. But the whole effort is to prove that the Bible is not important. Okay. And if we can show that, look, these were changed from something else, which we don't have. Well, and this has a similar story. So this is just based on those. And it's just a later rendition for a new purpose. Okay. Let me say it this way. Gilgamesh was a historical account. And it is recorded and gives us a lot of information into what happened because of Genesis six. And the whole issues with Ham. All right, Gilgamesh was one third deity. How do you become one third genetically, one third? You have a father and a mother and a God? How do the alleles work? How do you get xx, xy and something else? How do you become one third God? Well, the Atrahasis, the Gilgamesh Epic, and the Anuma Elish explain how and it's not creation of humans. It's not creation. It's cloning. That's how you become one third. You have a father donating essence. You have a mother donating the womb, which provides the complementary chromosomes. And you have another being donating the xy chromosomes. So your father is not human. Your mother may or may not be human. And your patrilineal human father is where you get your xy chromosomes. If you can understand that. Okay, so here we go. Here's the similarities. A flood and building a huge boat by divine command. The divine command came from different individuals. The boat has different designs and sizes. The flood is in different locations within different borders, goes from and lands to a different place. And they are all at different times. Pitch is used to seal the boat. Well, that's not a shocker. When hasn't that been used on wooden boats? The boat is built to precise dimensions. Oh, the biblical boat is much larger. Yeah, it is. And it's a different shape and it's used for different types of waters. Clean and unclean animals come on board. Now, many of you might not understand clean means edible of the four original categories that were created, not clones, not domesticated, hybridized, mutated animals, no meat eaters, no bottom feeders, animals that exist in a clean environment that were created for a perfect world. That's what clean animals are. You eat those. They're good for you. Unclean animals is everything else. Things that were never created, but came to be through other actions of other beings besides the creator, using the creator's clean animals. Okay, this is from hybridization. This is from sin. A Noah figure and his family are saved.  A Noah figure and his family are saved.  You're really stretching. The stories of Noah and Utnapishtim aren't even similar, not even close. In fact, Noah is called perfect in his genealogy. Utnapishtim is a demigod.  Noah was perfect in his genealogy from Adam. Or if you're a person listening from a Hindu background, the Atma. Noah was perfect in his genetics from Atma, from Adam, the perfect created clean man. All right. Utnapishtim was the son of a fallen angel, which makes him unclean.  They're not the same. Okay. And even in this, the Gilgamesh epic, the 11th tablet of the 12 tablets with the flood account, has more than the other two stories. So you're starting to see that the differences might be small, but you have to realize that they're talking about different events. The boat comes to rest on a mountain. Now that's ridiculous. Where it says it came to rest on the mountains of Ararat in Genesis, it actually doesn't say mountains of Ararat. That's a terrible translation. If you're talking geology, it doesn't mean mountain. So that's one misconception given to us by the Catholics and the Jews. A raven and doves were sent out. There's a reason for that. Well, Gilgamesh includes a swallow. Well, that could be a translation issue. Like I said, 17th and 1800s. They didn't understand things quite well. And English has changed since then a lot. But anyway, you see differences. Animals will fear humans. That's a recurring thing. That's that's in a lot of places. So that's not even that shouldn't be included as things that link these three, because that's in a lot of things. The deity deities smell the pleasing aroma of the sacrifices afterward. Sure. Of course they do. Why not? What does that have to do with anything that happens all the time in ancient texts does not link these three. A sign of an oath is given. Well, oaths are given all over the freaking place. All over the freaking place. And if you look in Genesis or the book of Enoch, an oath was given by the angels as we call them, who all made a covenant with each other to go down to the daughters of earth or the daughters of Adam, the daughters of Atma to make babies with them. Oaths are common. That's not a linking thing. So these three things right here don't link anything. If you want to see if you're close to land, this is just common sense for a sailor. No a figure is inaccurate. The numbers of who were saved on the boats is different. The boats are completely different. The floods are completely different. And pitch was used on every wooden boat. So are you starting to see why this argument starts to break down? I hope you're starting to see this. But these similarities suggest that the three stories are related in some way. Let me give you a hint. Here's how they're related. You ready? They were all written stories. That's how they're related. That's it. They're written stories. That's how they're related. Everything else speaks of totally different stories. Okay. Now, I want to see if I can actually read the Babylonian epic of the Enuma Elish. Now, where would I have that research? Where would I have put it? I'm going to pause the video and find it. Okay. Here we go. As you see, I have here a copy of the Atrahasis. I have a copy of the Enuma Elish. I have a copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh. I have read these many times in many different translations and I've even tried to get into understanding the so-called Sumerian script just to let you know I'm not making stuff up. I'm not speaking from ignorance or from only a conceptual perspective. This is based on actually reading the documents. The Enuma Elish, right? And right off the top, what they try to tell you is the gods of the Enuma Elish are called Apsu, Tiamat, Lamu, Lahamu, and Sharkishar, Anu, Ia, and Marduk. Well, if you know anything about history, if you've read the real research from real scholars, not talking heads and parrots, you understand that Apsu and Tiamat are not individual people. Neither are Lamu and Lahamu. You can argue for Aranshar and Kishar, Anu, Ia, and Marduk. But the problem is Anu, Ia, and Marduk are also titles of lordship, kind of like king, bishop, baron, right? Anu is also abyss, all right? So the Bible talks about waters above and waters below. And the flood was not caused by 40 days of rain for those of you who think that the Bible account is stupid because the world wouldn't flood from 40 days of rain, right? That's not what the Bible says. It says it flooded and it rained for 40 days. The water came from the waters above and the waters below and it rained. Here you have Apsu, it's fresh water. Tiamat is salt water based on the letters used to write the words, right? They try to break it down like they try to break down Hebrew. Anu, they say, means sky. But if you look it up in other languages, you start to realize that it has more to do with blood and abyss than it does sky. And I'm not going to go into that right now. Ia, right? It basically means lord. Lord of the land is Enki, Lord of the air is Enlil. But they try to tell you that these are gods when the texts never say that, ever, not once. And here's how it starts in the English translation. Went on high, the heaven had not been named. Firm ground below had not been called by name. Does that say in the beginning? Well, the heaven already exists and the firm ground already exists. It just hasn't been named. Nothing but primordial Apsu, which is the abyss from which they were begotten, and mother Tiamat who bore them all, right? So what do we see up here? Tiamat is salt water. All right, what does the Bible say about creating the animals in the sea? So this is giving you a time frame. And you know the time frame because this is being specific to a certain point in Genesis, okay? No reed hut. I should say hut, not but. No reed hut had been matted. No marshland appeared. Well, if no reed hut has been matted, that means there's no people living in them. No marshland had appeared, which means no lands were flooded. All right, marsh comes from land being superseded by water content or water receding and leaving behind stagnant water. So none of that had happened yet. When no lords whatever had been brought into being, which just goes to signify that these gods were brought into being later. Thus destroying your whole concept that Enki and Yawa are the same. They're not the same. Where does it ever say in any text that Yawa was brought into being? It doesn't. But the Sumerian gods were brought into being, unnamed, their destinies yet undetermined. Then it was that the lords were emerged from within them, from within who, from within the abyss and the salt water, which is probably the waters below. Laumu and Lahamu came forth and were called by name. And if you need to know, I would say that sun and moon, and that would be day four in the Genesis account. Before they had grown in age and statue. Anshar and Kishar were shaped more mighty than the others. What does it say Anshar and Kishar are? It doesn't tell us. Hmm, that's weird. Why doesn't it tell us? Huh. They just don't want us to know. They don't know what these words mean. All right. Laumu and Lahamu and Anshar and Kishar. That's why they're not translated. They extended the days, added on the years, so they had a calendar. Okay. Anu was their heir, rival of his father. Huh. Interesting. What do we see in the Bible that has to do with that? Well, you have one of the angels of God who was more wise than the rest and all that and rebelled and was kicked off the mountain because he caused Tohu and Bohu in Genesis one, two. He caused darkness and lifelessness. All right. All right. Will that make him a rival of his father? Verily Anu and Kishar's firstborn was his equal. Oh, that's crazy. They're saying the son is equal to the father. Huh. But he's a rival of his father. Wow. Hmm. And thus you have an account of those who serve the day star, the dragon, Satan, the great serpent of old. Boom. Right there. Just in case you didn't know. That's what this is talking about. Anu sired his image, Nudimud. That's Enki. This Nudimud was the master of his father. Huh. Of broad wisdom, understanding, mighty in strength, mightier by far than his grandfather and Shar. And you have to understand this concept father, grandfather, mother. When you're talking about divine beings, you're not talking about sexual procreation. Okay. But you see right here, this right here, the son was master of his father. You see that also in the book of Revelation and the book of Daniel where it talks about the son of Satan being given all of his father's power and authority. Do you understand that? This concept is in the Bible. Oh, the divine brothers got together. Wow, they banded together. Where do we see that? We see that in Enoch. They disturbed Tiamat as they rushed here and there. Indeed, they distraught and tormented Tiamat by their boisterous mirth in the dwelling of heaven. Absu could not diminish their clamour and Tiamat was dumbfounded out their ways. Their doings were loathsome to him. Offensive and overbearing were their ways. So what are they doing? They're doing evil. Okay. To put it in modern terms.  And they're like, oh, let's do something about it. And there was some rudeness and disrespect going on and then destroy my father. Their rebellious ways, all right, is the advice given. When Absu, which is the Abyss, heard this, his face grew luminous. Huh? Where do we see in Genesis 1.5? And God said, let there be light. Wow. And the Abyss was filled with light. This is not talking about a person. It's an anthropomorphized account of what you might call cosmic events. Do you understand that? Are you following along? Here we have Genesis 1.3. And God said, let there be light. Then they gave their decision to the lords. The lords were astonished, lapsed into silence. You also see that happening in the book of Enoch when God tells the angels what to do about the sons of the angels that had come down. They have the same thing. They're astonished. They laps into silence. Okay. Now look, here's how you know it's this tablet, this document, is coming from the other side, the side in opposition to Yawa. Okay. Superior in wisdom, accomplished and resourceful, Ea, the all-wise, saw through their design. And that's Newdemud. Okay. That's the same guy. That's how you know Ea isn't a name. It's a title. And I'll show you some more later so you can understand. So the hero of the story is Ea and Marduk. All right. Two different guys, but those are the heroes. And they're just going to say he's better than God. He's better than the abyss. He's better than the timelessness. He's better than the law that establishes physical properties. He's better than all of this. He made artful his spell against it. What do you have in the word Nakash in Genesis chapter three? Nakash, a whisperer, a conjurer, a sorcerer. Interesting. Ea is also the serpent god. Wow. Interesting. He made artful his spell against it, surpassing and holy. He recited it and made it subsist in the deep. As he poured sleep upon him, sound asleep he lay. When he had made Abzu live prone, deep in sleep, Mumu the advisor was powerless to stir. He loosened Abzu's band. Tore off his tiara. Now remember, Abzu is the deep. There's the waters above and the waters below. He loosened the band, tore off his tiara, removed his halo, and put it on himself. Having constrained Abzu, he slew him. Mumu, he bound and locked. Having thus upon Abzu established his ascendance. He laid hold of Mumu, holding him by the nose rope. After Ea had vanquished and tramped down his foes, which is the laws of nature, had assured his triumph over his enemies, which was order and life. In profound peace, he rested in his sacred chamber, which was Mount Meru, the mountain of God. He named it Abzu. So now he's calling his temple, his house, the name of what he slew. So from everything that Ea goes into his Abzu, you have to understand he's going into his house. He's not going into the concept of the deep. He founded his cult in that same place. Ea and Damkina, his wife, dwelled there in Splendor, in the chamber of fates, the house of destinies. A god was engendered and they made Marduk. Boom. Okay, his father was Ea. All right, so now you see that people have completely mistranslated this. It's just mistranslated and it's misunderstood because we speak a different language than the English that was spoken when these were translated.  Our English is different from the English 200 years ago. We don't use the words the same way, but if you actually look at what it actually says, you understand this isn't an epic of creation. This is an accounting based on a time period, which is what all this is, a time period, an argument, right, and a rebellion. That's what this is saying. And a destruction of order and natural law. That's what this is saying. So this story right here is talking about what caused Genesis one, two. Okay, now if you don't know, the Bible says very clearly that God did not create the heaven and the earth desolate and without life. The way Genesis is translated, it says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was formless and void, which the words are Tohu and Bohu, and it means desolate and without life. So if God didn't create the earth desolate and without life, and by Genesis one, two, the earth is desolate and without life, that means Genesis one, one is talking about what happened before Genesis one, two, as you would expect. And the word translated was in old English was was the same thing that we now call became. You understand back then was worked. Now it doesn't work. We don't use it the same way. We use the word became. So Genesis one, two in modern English should say, and then the earth became desolate and without life. Now if you're on the same page, you understand that this story in the Enuma Elish is talking about how the earth became desolate and without life. It's not in contradiction to the Bible whatsoever. All right. And then based on what version you're reading, it talks about how either Marduk or Enki became the heroes. I wanted to show you. Oh, okay. I think it's right up in here. Well, several gods made an attempt to destroy Tiamat, which is the salt waters. Right. So they're trying to destroy the ocean. It's like, okay. Where is it? All right. Here we go. Here's some examples. They'd select in this account, they select Marduk to be the hero. Right here you say, you Marduk are the most honored of the great gods. Your decree is unrivaled. Your word is anew. Let's see here. Hmm. Let's back up a little bit. They erected for him an ample throne. He sat down on it facing his father's presiding presiding means taking authority. You are the most honored of the great gods. Your decree is unrivaled. Your command is anew. And what did I tell you about the word anew? It has to do with blood and abyss. So your command is bond. Your word is bond basically. You Marduk are the most honored of the great gods. Your decree is unrivaled. Your word is anew. From this day unchangeable shall be your pronouncement to raise or bring low. These shall be in your hand. Your utterance shall be true. Your command shall be unimpeachable. No one among the gods shall transgress your bounds. Let the place of their shrines be ever in your place. Marduk you are our Avenger. We've granted you kingship over the entire universe that's wrong. That concept didn't exist or should be cosmos which means everything on earth.  Your weapons shall not fail. All right. Be good to those who support you. Trash those who don't support you. They addressed themselves to Marduk their firstborn. Wow. All the gods are his parents apparently. Like are you starting to see that this is not saying what you think it's saying when you read it in English. How did he become supreme among all the gods? Well they put him on a throne and they said so. Does that make it so? Think about that. Anyway the story goes on to say that and it might be in the Atrahasis but the gods gave him their names. They gave him their names and how do you give someone your name? Well it's because their names aren't names the way we say name. Right. They're titles. Like the word uncle is a title. The word king is a title. The word judge is a title. Okay. They gave Marduk their titles of authority. They gave him their authority so that he could be their avenger.  So that's how you know that these so-called names of the gods aren't names. They're titles that can be transferred. Okay. So he fights Tiamat destroys Tiamat which once again is supposed to be the salt waters. So the waters below most likely. Right. Oh here we go again. Conferring upon him the rank of anew. Yeah. It actually translated that one better. I'm surprised they didn't say name. Uses magic against the natural order and splits her part. Okay. Now we get to this part. He establishes his own calendar. Okay. We see up here in the beginning. The calendar existed and we know when this story occurred based on the calendar that existed and it happens to match the account in Genesis and you can only understand this if you have the calendar of Genesis. Okay.  Okay. So he's successful in defeating the natural order divides the natural order and does artful works. It's kind of like what science does right now. Right. Saren and whatnot. He split her like a shell fish into two parts. Half of her he sat up as the ceiling of the sky. He pulled down the bar and posted guards. He ordered them not to allow her waters to escape. He crossed the heavens and surveyed the regions. Okay. This is heaven has always meant sky up until recently. Okay. Now sky means air up until recently. So what you have right here is an early account of Sumerian cosmology that has a flat earth with waters above and waters below. It's right here right there. Nobody sees it. So anyway he crossed the heavens surveyed the regions. He's doing surveying. Right. He squared absus quarter the abode of nudimud or enki as the Lord measured the dimensions of the deep. So yeah I thought absolute was a God. How is he measuring the dimensions of absolute? Well absolute is not a God. So all that introduction part where that's a God and all that translation that calls absolute God. It's not a God. It's a natural law. Okay. Stuff they don't understand. They didn't translate. They don't understand this cosmology. They don't understand Genesis. They don't understand how anything exists. So they don't know how to translate these words. They don't understand half of these sentences. All these people say this is just a retelling of Genesis. Have them explain sentence by sentence to you. They can't. He constructed stations for the gods aligning their astral likenesses as constellations. He determined the year by assigning the zones. He set up three constellations for each of the 12 months after defining the days of the years by means of these astrological figures that he determined. He founded the station of Nibiru. Oh interesting. Huh. There goes all of that modern nonsense about Nibiru. Wow. If you just read the text alongside it he set up the stations of Enlil and Aya. Having opened up the gates on both sides. Now if you don't understand this kind of stuff talk go read the book of Enoch uses the same words in the book of Enoch because the book of Enoch was a story from the same time period. Very close anyway within hundreds of years. He strengthened the locks to the left and the right. So he's creating his own calendar and establishing how to judge his calendar by the sun the moon and the stars. Okay back then there were no planets they didn't exist in anybody's thinking. There was earth sun moon and stars. So anybody that talks about Sumerians and the planets and da da da they didn't exist. They were not a concept. Period. The cosmos was everything under the firmament everything on earth above that was the waters above below it is the waters below and earth is above the waters below and is fed by the waters below and up until the flood of Noah the waters above stayed above. Okay that's the cosmology that all these ancient writers just know they don't believe it they know it. Okay um let's see here interesting thing right here it talks about how he did all this stuff assigned what astronomical elements pertain to what part of his calendar right and then it says the moon he caused to shine the night he entrusted to the moon okay um he appointed the moon a being of the night to signify the days. Huh monthly without seas from designs with a crown at the month's very start rising over the land you will have luminous horns to signify six days. So it's talking about the the moon cycle on the seventh day that full moon blah blah blah blah at the time of disappearance you will approach the course of the sun and on the 29th day you stand an opposition to the sun okay so he's saying he's telling us when his year begins right the yaw calendar has a similar um gate so that you can understand when the year begins which is usually in March or April depending on how the uh pagan calendar compares to it the first month is usually in March or April and so this is telling you kind of a similar thing but this is saying um that every month it's gonna look like this on the 29th day this doesn't mean the calendar only had 29 days people go that route they say wow see it says 29th day well that doesn't mean it only had 29 days they just assume okay um all right so so they destroyed somebody called King Hu or somebody or something blaming things on him right remember they rebelled against Tiamat and they say King Hu caused Tiamat to rebel but what did they say above they rebelled against Tiamat so they're flipping the script okay they imposed on him guilt and severed his blood vessels out of his blood they fashioned Hu man kind which is kind of an interesting thing when you look at where the word human came from Hu is actually a Mongolian god from whom all mankind was created in their story now Hu is a god man is Adam kind is kind right now what's interesting here is that the translators translated this as humankind which means demigods and I think they're more accurate than you want to understand this isn't talking about creating the children of Adam this is talking about creating mutated children of Adam let's see out of his blood they fashioned people and he made them work for the gods wow the gods were working and they needed to be freed some gods right you start to notice things in here the gods were rebelling against natural order and they didn't want to do their job anymore so they had some clones made to do their job this is the story of the fallen angels are you following me okay in the atrahasis i'm going to load that up now see some different details yep this is good when the gods instead of man did the work bore the loads the gods load was too great the work too hard the trouble too much the great anunnaki which means children of the blood of the abyss okay that's literally what it means but it means children of anew blood and abyss and all that is in there the great anunnaki made the igigi that's the watchers from inock okay that's the benihail ohim who took under them daughters of men from genesis six same people uh they did extra work anew their father was king so you have someone here titled after a concept of anew anew is a title not a name their counselor warrior elil which is enlil which is the lord of the air their chamberlain was ninnurta who is a very able aerial combatant he's very good with his airship and shooting other people down and he's pretty accurate with his airbombing as well according to the texts their canal controller enugi okay and what do we know about the foundation of egypt osiris dug the canals and tamed the mighty river and made egypt possible all right just to give you some framework here uh they they cast the lots to make divisions anew well this is weird okay i thought anew was their king but they cast lots to determine where people are going and anew was equally in the lots there so what you have here is a description of angelic administration they're all equals under the most high under the one on the throne under uh the controller angel under the word under the creator it's chain of command these are the worker worker angels these are the terra angels okay hope you can understand they cast lots anew went to the sky and will took the earth for his people there's some breaks in this in the text so you have to kind of just go along and just skip him incomplete thoughts okay the bolt which bars the sea was assigned to farsighted enki the bolt which bars the sea was assigned to farsighted enki which is a very interesting statement that you have no idea what it means unless you understand the calendar of ya can i explain it right now not completely so i'm not even gonna start okay when anew had gone up to the sky and the gods of the abyss had gone below the anuna key of the sky made the watchers bear the workload oh oh you see what's happening here it's talking about injustice so the king goes up to the sky the gods of the abyss go down to the abyss and the anuna key who are supposed to be working with the igigi remember up here when the gods instead of man did the work bore the load okay so they're all supposed to be doing it together well they made the igigi do all the work they dug canals cleared channels why are they doing all this well they're creating a city state okay they're creating an empire so the gods dug out the tigress river which is probably not what the that says i'll just skip that same with you freadies uh in the deep they set up the abyss of the land inside it raised its top of all the mountains they were counting the years of loads now this makes no sense if you don't understand ancient cosmology all right they set up the absolute of the land inside it raised its top like what it's not talking about what you think it's talking about we're just gonna skip that because i want to get to something here um they started complaining about the work so they sent an ambassador who said um let's all rebel and so they decided to take up arms they took their pickaxes and stuff and shovels and they went to make war against enlil when they reached the gate of enlil's dwelling it was night the middle watch the house was surrounded enlil did not know they were there okay um but the watchman noticed and raised the alarm okay they listened to all the uproar made by the rebels and they got enlil up and said hey check this out there's people out here with weapons so enlil had weapons brought in and he spoke and said you know set up defenses so the guys set up defenses and so the watchman says uh enlil why do you look afraid why are you afraid of your own sons again not referring to like father who had a baby and is his son this is different this is the actual meaning of son right and if you can understand this then you can understand genesis six much better oh enlil your face is fearful why are you afraid it's repeated meaning it's important okay in in the ancient text when they repeated the exact same phrase it meant pay attention and understand this concept enlil was afraid meaning enlil is not god okay um send for anew to be brought down so now they're gonna ask for the king to come back from the sky because the workers don't want to do the work right and now they're threatening the order that they all established by casting lots because they didn't want to work anymore okay do you understand what's happening here injustice begets injustice begets violence that's what happened with the angels before genesis one two so anew comes down da da da da and he said wow is it against me that they're they're coming in battle you know he's like okay you know what go meet him in battle blah blah blah blah and then skipping forward here um they actually finally listened to the complaints of the workers and they're like we're freaking tired of this it's it's too much no no no and enlil starts crying because he finally listened to the complaints and he's like why should we kill them they their work was too hard you know so he's he's starting to see some here and anyway they make a deal and it's right here um it is right here they they have a little meeting with the leaders of the rebels and the leaders of the leaders and he said um there is bellett elie the womb goddess what's a womb goddess what do we call that in modern day you know the woman that helps a woman give birth what do we call that well back then it's womb goddess um let her create primeval man hmm so that he may bear the yoke so that he may bear the yoke let man bear the load of the gods bellett elie the womb goddess is present let the womb goddess create offspring and let man bear the load of the gods does that sound just to you when genesis says god created heaven and the earth and then genesis one two happened and then he fixed everything up but under a time restriction that's what most people don't understand he added a time restriction it's a countdown clock that has entropy in it okay and um and then he put adam in a garden in the east in eden very specific very specific all right but adam had all the good things and he didn't have to work so this is not the same story because this is saying they're going to create mankind to do the work are you paying attention so the woman the the woman says i can't do this this is enki's job he makes everything better than i do uh if he gives me clay then i will do it hmm what is what is clay it's mire it's a building block with clay you can create clones okay and he made his voice her da da da on the first seventh and fifteenth of the month i will do this stuff it's all very scientific and then we'll mix clay with flesh and blood huh well so the flesh and the blood already exists the clay already exists then a god and a man will be mixed together in clay well that's interesting i thought they said they were going to make primeval man but they're going to mix a god and a man together in a carrier which is the clay let us hear the drum beat forever after let a ghost come into existence from the god's flesh and let the ghost exist so that we never forget the slain god from which they got the essence that they were going to mix into the clay with the essence of man okay so they're saying that you have to sacrifice one of your own and we'll take his essence we'll mix it together with the man's DNA we'll put it in a clay we'll do all this first fifteenth and seventh of it each month we'll do all the scientific stuff and as a remembrance your spirit will haunt us forever okay you understand this is not talking about creating man from nothing this is talking about cloning in a lab okay they agreed uh they killed him they took his essence and a ghost came into existence and what does enok talk about the children of the watchers who were hybrids of some kind however they came into being whether it was from some kind of sexual procreation or some kind of scientific wizardry or through some kind of spiritual procreation it's not really detailed in ways that any of us can understand with our current level of understanding but whatever way the watchers made children with women of earth and enok says that when those children of the watchers die since they have the essence of angels they are immortal but they have the body of adam so they will die so what's going to happen is they're going to be restless spirits on the earth always hungry but never able to eat always thirsty but never able to drink what do you think happens to a mind when it's constantly in that state you go a little bit psycho so yeah they become worse than they were when they were in the flesh okay that's where we get demons and this is talking about how they made a demon okay so they killed the guy he became a spirit they took his essence mixed it in the clay spat spittle on the clay which is interesting because that has her material in it okay I have carried out perfectly the work that you ordered of me she's not creating anything she's mixing things you understand the difference okay because well technically it is creating because the word create doesn't mean from nothing it really doesn't it never has it's a myth that it means that it has never meant that because there simply never has been anything that you would call out of that concept when god created the heavens on the earth he created it from himself not from nothing when he remade the heavens in the earth genesis one three on it was from himself and from the earth that he ought already created there has never been anything made from nothing not once not ever so the word create doesn't mean from nothing but I know most of you because of the jews like literally jewish rabbis came up with this because of a couple jewish rabbis who were very convincing for the last couple hundred years most people in the christian world have been taught that created means from nothing but it doesn't and it never has it means from something it means fashioned and if you don't believe me look at how the word bara is used in in the bible and try to figure out how in the world that could mean from nothing put it in context you'll see that it doesn't work and if it doesn't work in every other place in the bible then it doesn't work in genesis you understand okay so she did a process mixed things together okay and then says I bestow on you the noise of mankind I have undone the fetter in granted freedom and they lock they you know their anxiety went down they worshipped her which means you know attributed worth give honor to whom honor that whole concept right and then they changed her name which means they changed her title to mother goddess okay um enki and mani went into the room of fate oh that's interesting the womb goddesses were assembled wow okay now there's more than one womb goddess okay they were assembled he trod the clay in her presence she kept reciting an incantation for enki staying in her presence made her recite it all right what do you think's happening there he's working the clay she's reading instructions when she had finished reading the instructions she pinched off 14 pieces of clay and set seven pieces on the right seven on the left between them she put down a mud brick she made use of blank missing text a read opened it to cut the umbilical cord called up the wise and knowledgeable womb goddesses seven and seven seven created males seven created females do you understand okay it's a c-section they didn't create anything the babies were grown in their wombs they had wombs which means their daughters of adam they had a c-section because you couldn't natural birth those monsters okay and he led them two by two in their presence right because if they can get two they can mate then they don't have to do this process anymore right so they made seven trial runs seven males seven females paired them up um let's see here and then they give rules for how how the procreation of the clones is going to work all right and all that stuff when they can make babies etc etc so they they have a scientific process to test their work okay when the 10th month came she slipped in a staff and opened the womb there you go c-section she covered her head well what do doctors do when they open someone up okay performed the midwifery put on her belt set a blessing so basically she she's getting ready for surgery here she made a drawing in flour and put down a mud brick my hands have created it she says okay but not from nothing she's like check it out the science project worked read in context you start to understand that this is not even close to genesis now moving along 600 years the clones became too numerous the country was as noisy as a bellowing bull and you remember at the very beginning of the story of the enuma elish the gods were riotous and loud and clamorous they're they're offspring clone army it's just like them what a shocker genetic inheritance holy cow enlos like they're too much i can't i can't deal with this just cut off their food supply and they'll die from hunger uh and here you have some of the first forms of um weather modification let him wipe away his rain let no flood water flow from the springs let the wind go let it strip the ground bear so he's basically like cut off their water let the wind rage cover it with clouds so they don't get any sun he's basically saying no light no water and constant wind to blow everything away he's like make it a dust bowl so that's weather modification 101 right there it's the first account of it okay and then you know basically he's like hoping they all die enki intervenes so they send more problems enki intervenes again da da da da da basically that continues over and over the people end up more numerous than they were before because that's how population management works i mean if you look at wildlife management for instance when a predator eats too many of one type of animal that animal will then produce more offspring than before and then that animal eats too much of the bioeconomy of the area and then the predators become too numerous for that animal and then begin eating the animal and it's a constant cycle and you see that right here the gods oppress the people the people become more numerous it's just response to environment okay da da da da same story continues until only the they had finally a really good starvation practice going on until it starts talking about cannibalism and only one or two households were left they were all scabbed and like melting and dying they were just falling apart the thoughtful man atrahasis kept his ear open to his master ia now what you don't know from this text is that atrahasis is ia's son because ia raped one of the clones so atrahasis is not only a demigod clone he's also a demigod all right so there you have he's one third god do you understand what i'm saying here okay and ia's like hey you're gonna get destroyed um sets up a uh plan to intercede tells him make a boat put all these people on da da da he floats around um let's see what am i skipping here i'm skipping something okay then they're gonna flood right uh let's see sorry i haven't looked at this in it this particular text in a while he's like so they're talking about giving a flood okay and the people blame en enki and he's like did i do it no this is enlil's work so he's blaming the other god because he wants to be the good guy okay um um he's speaking to his half son atrahasis uh dismantle the house build a boat okay and what does god tell noah he says build a boat from this kind of wood you don't say dismantle your house and build a boat it's totally different reject possession save living things the boat you build blank space roof it like the apsew which which is ia's house that he named after the apsew you remember from the enuma elish he defeated tm at and then ordered the apsew and then named his house apsew he's like so roof your boat like my house do take birds fish which uh if i'm reading this right he's providing fish and birds for food for the boat journey and that is not even similar in any way to the noah story totally different so anyway they build this crappy boat that is um a commonly known middle eastern style boat that basically looks like a giant wooden bull and this one was roofed to keep the sun out right uh he put wild animals on board he put cattle on board he put birds on board okay he put his family on board they were eating and drinking but he went in and out um let's see here the he cut the rope and released the boat which the bible says god shut up the door of the arc so you have totally different stories here it's not just the details it's the concepts involved okay um so there's tearing at the sky making the flood which again speaks of not rain but breaking up the waters above okay uh the flood roared like a bull like a wild ass screaming the winds the darkness was total there was no sun i knew went berserk right this is like anyway they repent of their thing and say how could i have ordered such destruction you know but and little stayed strong with his decision because he wanted them gone let's see now i want to get to i'm trying to read real quick here okay i don't like this version very much so there's three lines missing and then he says would a true father have given birth to the rolling sea all right so that they would clog the river like dragonflies clog the what the river hmm not the earth okay they are washed up like a raft on a what on a bank they're washed up like a raft on a bank in open country it basically just told you the flood was in the river the river flooded are you following me here it's a very localized flood so what i'm thinking is the clone clone people were kept on basically a peninsula or an island at at least uh you know two or three sides surrounded by ocean and two or three sides surrounded by rivers they flooded up the rivers and washed over the land this is not the same as the Noah flood okay here we go uh for seven days and seven nights the torrent storm and flood came on there's a gap of 58 lines 58 lines is missing that's significant oh man oh man and little finds out that the people survived gets really pissed at the gods and starts blaming people now blame enki and he's like who but enki would do this and enki says i did it in defiance of you i preserved life why because enki made enki was the the head scientists of the project for clone making he liked his creation he even raped them occasionally to make babies with them so yeah he did it he made sure his work stayed in existence okay they all get over it um and then it says um we sent the flood but a man survived the catastrophe so you can see right here that either the translation is terrible or this story isn't trying to be as specific as you might think it is we sent the flood but a man survived the catastrophe and you know that he had his family on the boat from her from the story so it wasn't a man that survived so it's just um and i hope you get the point and if you know the story if you go read genesis you see a completely different story the atraasis the enuma elish the epic of gilgamesh talk about these lords who came into being from something they weren't creative gods like everyone tries to say well they're like the same as johova right enki is johova i mean how many times have you heard this argument it's ridiculous enki is a title yeah you can apply all of these titles of the gods to the creator he's the one who gave the titles out you understand these lords passed the titles around and the man gods after the noa flood stole the titles this is all recorded in ancient texts but what happens is people dig up these ancient texts they know they're altered from originals they have no idea where the stories originated or when they were written they make guesses based on best available evidence which is only the evidence that they think best agrees with their theories okay and then they say see this is an older account than genesis and genesis was stolen from this but one thing you start to notice is you can't identify the timeline of these unless you have the calendar that's in genesis you have no idea what group of individuals is being spoken of unless you understand the account of genesis when did the benayah Elohim take daughters of earth and make offspring in the bible right because that's what this atrahasis and enuma elish and epica gilgamesh talk about where people say see the god's created man the bible is not the first thing that talks about the creation of man but really when you read the text it's talking about these lords making clones from men and gods and when did that happen in the bible that happened in genesis six okay you following me here i want to show you something else mount meru is an ancient word from india from sanskrit incendio or hindu mythology a golden mountain that stands in the center of the universe and is the axis of the world now what you don't understand is that's not literal and it's not based on your cosmology of a ball spinning through the heavens shooting through the heavens around another ball with other balls spinning around okay one way to say it is mount meru the mountain of god okay is the earth as we know it another way to say it is it is the administration of the angels on the earth before genesis one two now what happened what happened here well we have here is the churning of the cosmic ocean the gods wanted the nectar of immortal life so they use the serpent to shake the mountain to churn up the sea are you hearing what i'm saying here now if you can't put two and two together from from this then you need to read the bible more carefully the gods or the angels because that's what devas and asuras are different angels different groups of angels what do we have in the uh epic of gilgamesh the the um the utnapishtim the atrahasis the all this crap right you have two groups of gods two groups of angels the agigi the anunnaki right in the bible you have two groups of angels the watchers and the others right it's the same story all over the world in every language okay two groups of angels and the serpent caused the shaking of the mount and shook the waters and what did we see in the babelonian flood stories we saw marduk or enki fighting the saltwater you remember that fighting tiamat saltwater shaking the ocean okay you can look all this up yourself i wanted to go over this because when you confront things like this that sound really smart and i'm not disrespecting the guy that wrote this or the group that supports it or anybody that believes this okay but genesis six through nine has nothing to do with atrahasis and gilgamesh and enuma elish and other texts that will soon be getting dug up and translated has nothing to do with them this wasn't based on that wasn't based on that wasn't based on that they're different stories at different times and different places just read it just simply read it like actually read it like you would read instructions on how to put together an ikea desk actually read what it says and what you were taught in church and what you were taught in school and what you were taught in your yogi classes it's close but not quite because they're telling you how to understand what you read and even though they tell you to understand it in a way that it's not written in you decide to believe them and so then people come out with crap like this based on what the jews and the catholics have been teaching that genesis talks about i can totally understand why people would think the story of utinopishtim is the story of noa from an older day i can totally understand that but if you actually understand what you're reading you know that they are completely different stories and one the main premise is utinopishtim is a clone who is also a demigod and noa was perfect in his genetics from adam and you have a clash of concept ideology right there so important to everything else in history that you have to know and recognize that they are not the same person and they are not even close to the same story they're in total violation of each other okay so just because stories have the same things in them doesn't mean they're the same story okay that's like basically saying that well cinderella has a princess in it and snow white has a princess in it and they both have an evil step mother so that means they're the same story it's the stupid everyone knows they're different stories but when you read ancient text you do that and everybody says yeah that's right yeah i guess the bible is just stolen from the sumerians now here's the thing the bible was written after the sumerian empire was destroyed that's in the bible that's information in the bible but that doesn't mean that the stories in the bible are younger than the stories from sumer and if you can't understand that then you need to start reiterating your concept analysis stories are older than civilizations and nations because civilizations and nations came after the flood the stories came from before the flood when you can start understanding the actual timeline and actual concepts and what's actually written you won't fall prey to stupid crap like this okay anyway just wanted to talk about it and i know a lot of this is probably going to freak out a lot of you especially people raised in church because you were told that if you read anything outside the bible you're getting into satanism which is totally false you want to talk about the vedic writings they're they're talking about the same stories that are in the bible and jesus is there as well you know goes by the same titles identifies himself the same way operates under the same premises and the bible isn't the only time that god interacted with man the israelites descended from abraham were not the only people on earth that god has ever interacted with spoken to or delivered it even says that in the bible oh what is it amos chapter 9 oh you think israel's special didn't i also bring the philistines out of kaftor all right go read it there's two nations in there that god interceded with and saved from the world system of babelon that weren't israel so you need to start thinking in bigger paradigms and more exacting concepts the biblical flood story has not taken a beating the religious interpretation of the biblical flood story has taken a beating as it deserves because the religious interpretation that most christians and jews understand is totally incorrect and leads you down weird pathways of illogical unfounded concepts that make you confused and all those questions you have about your faith is because you don't understand genesis okay all right anyway wanted to get that out there i've talked about this with a few people and people wanted me to share it on a broader basis by no means did i go into details i just went over concept analysis that way when you read stuff like this or other ancient texts or scientists talking about how sumerian texts blah blah blah the bible blah blah blah you understand that they're not arguing with what the bible actually says they're not comparing the sumerian texts to the bible they're comparing it and they're arguing with the religious institution translations that have been forced on the public they're not arguing against what the bible actually says because they don't understand what the bible actually says because they think that what the church says it says is what it says which is not what it says if you don't follow me rewind put slow mo and listen to that sentence again all right i love you be blessed and bless go learn something and stretch your mind


Well Carol Gilligan and these other guys have suggested that the ethics of care really aren't relevant to impersonal relationships, the only relevant to personal ones. Well let me ask you, do you think that's true? Is there any relevance that the ethics of care have to impersonal relationships? Well before we answer this question it's probably a good idea to figure out what this means. If the ethics of care is relevant to impersonal relationships then there's something of what it means to care for strangers with people with whom we are not familiar with, not familiar with on a first name basis, we're not friends or family with, they are just part of the faceless masses. So what would it mean to care for strangers? So one question we could ask ourselves is how are we currently treating strangers? How do we currently behave towards those with whom we do not have a personal relationship? Well let's think about some instances. So think about some folks that we perhaps don't approve of, that we think their behavior is captured online or maybe you see it in person, maybe say chewing out a member of the managerial staff. We often, I mean this entire culture devoted to this online, of criticizing folks like this, we call them by a name and we judge them for their actions. Maybe how these people behave online is something that we don't approve of, we think are somehow not measuring up to standards of behavior that makes somebody a full person. And again we tend to criticize, we tend to judge and condemn such individuals. Is that really caring for them? Our society these days is marked by groups that are very angry at each other, that have severe differences to one another and how do they engage in those differences? Well usually it's by some kind of name calling. And while the ethics of care is certainly not something that's completely transparent that we've got figured out, I think it's relatively not controversial to say that this is not how you care for another person. If you disagree with them, in a caring relationship, you try to work out your differences by something other than name calling. If the ethics of care is really relevant to how we treat each other and in in-person relationships, then this behavior has to stop, then this behavior would change. Now as we've noted before, the ethics of care is not obligatory, right? You are not obligated to engage into a caring relationship with another person. This is how the care of Gilligan is emphasized. This is something these other philosophers have emphasized. This is not a mystery. So you're not obligated to engage in a caring relationship. But one wonders how different our society would be if we did. After all, our society is marked by a great deal of differences. And currently right now, we do not treat these differences kindly. Most of our debates, represented by these two animals here, are marked by anger, derision. When two groups of people, each representing the other, each representing one of these groups, when they come together, it is not a happy occasion. And our society is quite literally being torn apart. Now we're not obligated to change this, and at least in some ways, you might think, at least according to the ethics of care, we're not obligated to change this. But one wonders maybe we should anyway. After all, let's not pretend that things are going well. And if they continue to go in this direction, well, we might just fall apart.


Let's go over my pain killer. This is co-coded one. The joys of being in pain. Hey, what's it you guys welcome back to my channel. I'm Jen New here. Hi. Hello. I'm Lydia and today I am starting on Lydia. So I thought we could have a talk before I actually start taking it. So The dose I'm going on is 400 milligrams 200 of them in the morning and 200 at night. It's a starting dose and then next week we're increasing it. This is my blood test coming back, okay? I'm very anxious about starting it. I've got some anxiety about that. Because I've been on it before and it made me really ill. Physically. And I'm in hospital and I'm starting it where I'm on observations. It's just that I keep thinking back to the last I am. Last time I was on a much higher dose. Last time I was on it I was on 1000 milligrams. It's just it's a very nerve-wrapping thing starting a new medication. Even when you're on nine of the tablets, it's an additional to take and it just It gets your nerves up. I'm going to request to see the excite of action. It's just not an easy thing. I'm so anxious. I'm so anxious about starting it. I do think it's gonna help. Despite my anxieties and fears, I do think that this time it will help. So I'm praying for it anyway. I'm getting a document the first week of me being on lithium. So you can exit that video to come out next week. Is there any of you have any experience with lithium? If you do, let me know in the comments down below. Big Charles by Patreons and almost followers over on Twitter. I have to get a new Twitter account because I can't verify my old one. So my new Twitter will be linked in the description down below. Thanks for watching this video and I'll see you guys in my next one. Peace. It's where I won't forget this. Why do I regret this in my mind, reckless? Thoughts are feeling endless sitting up on breathless. Anxieties infectious. I feel so defenseless Betrayed and embarrassed. I hate being open.


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And there was cars actually pulling on at the service station across the road because they thought there was a band marching up the road. But only LetterCanny and District Pipe Band, you're very, very welcome, Monday Night Sessions and Conor Malloy is a chosen spokesman tonight. Conor, you're very welcome. Cheers. Thank you for having us here. Delighted to be here. Great. Just before we get on and talk to all our members and get more music, Conor, you have a big event coming up this on Saturday, the 27th of January. January, yeah. That's the annual Burns Night and it's a celebration of Robert Burns, who's a Scottish poet. But a lot of people will be familiar with some of one of his songs and particularly will be O Lang Zine. So he actually, he's the guy that wrote that song. I never knew. So what's happening? You're having an event down in the Conor Hall. Conor Hall at 7.30. So we've got very good lineup this year. We've Tara Howley who's joining us. We have the LetterCanny ukulele orchestra. We have the Donegal Youth Orchestra led by Vincent Kennedy, who is a renowned conductor. He's conducted with the Ortee Symphony Orchestra and the Ortee Concert Orchestra. So we're delighted to have some of that caliber joining us, as well as our local artist Amy Me, and who is part of the Burns Night for many, many years now. And delighted she's back again joining us. So also as part of Burns Night, they'll be the traditional celebration of the address to the Haggis. So for any of your listeners that aren't familiar with what Haggis is, it's, I suppose, a bit like pudding, but it's made in a sheep's stomach. It's nice and appetising for some. Definitely different now. There's no doubt about that. Do anybody ever eat it? Do you ever eat it? Is there? There's a nice eye. You get vegetarian Haggis as well. Yeah, I have it. We'll have it that night as well, so there'll be vegetarian options available. I had it in Scotland one night, along with some guinness, never mind now. It went down well, I can tell you. What do they do there with the Haggis? Does something happen, or is it just a ceremonial thing? Well, I suppose there's a poem that's read out, and then, I suppose, in a nutshell, the Haggis is stabbed, and there's a toast given to the Haggis then. And you perform that there, too? Yeah, part of the night as well. So, where can people get tickets for a corner? You can get tickets through any of the band members, or you can get it on Eventbrite. So it's the Burns night, so this is the 27th of January. Is this coming Saturday? It's coming Saturday, yeah. It's coming, brilliant, Doc. Looking forward to it. Is this your, how many years have you been ruling this event? I was the 12th, right? Probably about 21, 20, since 2000. So that was the formation of the band in 2000, so it's been every year since then. Excellent. So it's one of our main fundraisers for the pipe band. Just on the subject of the funneling corner, does it take a lot of money to keep this going? Yeah, it does, yeah. I mean, to rig out one pipe, per cost in the region of about 2000, between two to two and a half thousands, and as you can see, there's so many younger members here, and they have to be rigged out, and then as they grow older, those uniforms have to be replaced, and it's a bit like how to kind of use the example of when you buy a suit in a shop, you wear it 10 or 15 times a year over space of a couple of years, the sooner you get into deteriorate. When you're saying that to get them out, obviously that doesn't include the price of the instruments. Well, the instruments themselves, I mean, you could buy a decent enough set at about a thousand, but I mean, it goes up, it goes down to the wood of the instrument, it's a black African wood, it's a rare type of wood, so the better the wood, the dearer the instrument. And are the pipes made here in this country, but obviously it's using that African wood, you're saying? Yeah, no, they'll be mainly coming from Scotland, because they are highland bagpipes, so that's where most of the bagpipes. Now, there are other people, I know in North France, there are a couple of companies there that would make it, it's kind of a big tradition around Britain either, but mainly Scotland would be the main source of... What other source of fund raisin do you do? We had a bonus ball draw there a couple of months back, and then we kind of rely on sponsorship, would be a huge, huge thing for us. We're always, I'd say, looking for main sponsors. We travel across Ireland, we go to Scotland every year. Last year we competed in the World Pipeline Championships, where there would be probably in about 80,000 spectators, and we were called out as third place, so it's certainly a great opportunity for anyone. Isn't that amazing, but third place? Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Just delighted with that. Absolutely, yeah. We topped all the Irish and Scottish bands, and we were beaten by a band from Australia. I wonder that one, right? A band from Oman, so... Bands from Oman? Oman, yeah. Oman? Oman. This is Oman. So, there are the two bands that beat us, that were ahead of us, so we're certainly delighted over it. We've been working very, very hard, all the members are working very hard. How often do you meet? We meet twice a week, on Monday and a Friday. And that is supposed to be well, I'd pick something that is more intense, or no? No, no, I wouldn't, I don't, I think we kind of just try and keep it at twice a week. Sometimes, obviously, like with work and commitments and things, it's very hard to get everybody in all the time, like... Of course. Of course. That's a big commitment. So, what's the structure? You have an overall commitment here, what is that? Yeah, we have a committee, a very hard-working committee. So, obviously, they have to figure out the logistics and planning the likes of the event on Saturday is a huge, huge thing, kind of, organizing food and it's mostly from the musical aspect, then we kind of look after that. Well, I think it's going to be a great night, you know. Brilliant, I have to say. I would say for anyone to get to take it sooner, rather than later. Of course, of course. So, Eventbrite or any member? Yeah, Eventbrite or any band member. Excellent. Get us through Facebook also as well. Oh, can you? Oh, brilliant. The Rikini Industry Pipeline. Excellent. Oh, is that your Instagram or anything like that? We are on Instagram, yeah, as well. Great, brilliant. Right, we've got an odd piece of music, if you don't mind, and then we'll talk more there. Next up, what's the next piece? So, the next piece is called Amazing Grace, but I'm going to introduce our three... Yes, we're going to talk to them. Use members who've been working very hard since September. When did you start in September? Did you start in September? Yeah. Yes, right. And I have your names, because it's Dominique, that's you, and Blahin, that's you, and I'm, say, you're Davin. Yeah, that's a lit... What do you think of the band? Do you love it? Yes. It's a good track. Good stuff. We're going to chat more after this piece of music, whenever you're ready. Absolutely brilliant. So, well done, you three, because that's a big thing coming up to the radio and doing something like that. So, tell me, why did you want to... We'll talk to you, Blahin. Why did you want to join the band? Very good. And you enjoy it? Yeah. And what's that? I'm still up there. What is that? Is that just a practice? It's a practice juncture. Not belong to you and the big guns. And, Davin, can we talk to you? Why did you want to join? That is something you're right, and you're enjoying it, that's the main thing. And you'll stay there for a long time, I would say. Yeah. Of course. Dominique? I like to try like an instrument, like something new as well. Ah. And you just decided you'll go for this. So, what instrument would you like to play, the bagpipes? Yeah. What do you do? Yeah. There's some work on that, isn't there? I'm telling you. But you joined when? When did you join September? Just... Yeah. Excellent. And you've come to that standard already? My God, you should bring it. It'll not belong before you're on the pipes. Do you know what it's looking at? It's just looking... Do you see these wee round drums here? Oh, wee round drums, do you hear me? You see the smaller drums, Connor? Are they junior or what's that? Yeah, they'd be the junior size, all right. Obviously, because of the size of the larger drums. Because we have so many younger members. To make it a little bit easier for them to... to match with. Oh, as a sound, it equally as... No, it's... It'd be a little bit different, like, but... Uh-huh. And do you progress them out onto the bigger drum, then? Ah, that would be... That would be us, yeah. Are you enjoying them drums? Yep. How long have you heard it? I've been out of red a year and a half now. Well, I know why. I was watching you when you were on. You were fairly... You were fairly beaten away at that drum. And you enjoying it? Yes. Do you practice at home? Yep. Oh, God, I'd love you in the house, wouldn't I? Well, you asked us, that's... Who's that? Nathan. Nathan. I was telling you outside. So, you want to be a bigger... You only play the bigger drums, is that what you like to do? Yes. And would you encourage any of your friends to join? Any of your friends join? Yes, I would. Some people from my class were going to join, but I haven't seen them yet, so... Well, you tell them to get the...  Join them. Who's that, Lisha? Lisha. Lisha? How are you? Good, yeah. Oh, you're in the bigger drum? I know, this is like a half-size drum, so this is like half the big one. Oh, aye! So it's just like, you go from this to that, and from that to this, and then... There was never enough of those, so I always just had to start off with this one. Just threw you under the paint? Yeah. And you enjoy on it? Yeah. And when did you join, Lisha? At the same time as Nathan, like a year and a half, yeah. And have you been marching yet? We went to the Remelton Festival in summer, and then, last St Patrick's Day, we were too young, but... And then we went to the light switch on, and that was kind of it, yeah. And is that your first time marching and playing? Yeah, that was probably in Remelton. That was my first time, yeah. Ah, very good. You enjoy that side of it, too? Brilliant. Well done, and you should encourage all your friends to join it. Just, Conor, if I go back to you again, if people want to join the band, is he open for applicants, sir? Yeah, we are always looking for... Particularly, well, I mean, we teach adults also. Yeah, so if you're interested, you might... Me? There's enough noise in me in the house to be bringing them into the house. So, if anyone does want to learn, they're more than welcome to contact us. We are, we say we're on Facebook, so if you want to contact us directly through Facebook, or just pop in at night, we're in on... Normally, on Mondays and Fridays, from normally around 7. Whereabouts? At the Conwall Parish. That's your hall. And tell me this, do you have to be able to read musically, play that? No, no, that's all part. And we would go through that in the classes as well, learning music and reading from... How long, yourself, how long are you playing the bypass? Good few years now, probably about 26 years, maybe. And... I know I look a lot younger than that. No, you don't, no. LAUGHTER I couldn't resist that, you know what I mean? No, I'm only joking. And do you go from an Orban, just one for us to have? Yeah, I'm originally from Mayo, so I'm originally from a place called Ackle Island and I learned down there. Funny enough, ironically, the pipe started in Ackle through a guy from Arranmore who married in Ackle back in the 1940s. So that's... Comeback circle? Actually, a couple of guys from Arranmore are playing in the band as well, but aren't here tonight. Aye, they were up... Were yous up last year, no? There was somebody up to me, wasn't there, from Arranmore, there were a couple of boys up. A couple of years ago. Aye, they were a couple of years ago. Oh, a big shout-out to all the band, especially Abigail and Gabriel, whose dad has tuned in and watching in Sweden.  Is he painting away, still? Oh, yeah. Very good. What do you call him? Hugh. Hugh. Good man yourself, Hugh. Get the brush out of... Where are we now? I can't see her. Glenna Kisler. Kisler, hello from the USA. John Shartons is a little Paul and Jimmy. SoundGritz, such talented folks, they are very talented. And Lavigne Woodward said fantastic as always, guys. Well done. Well done, indeed. So who's the longest-serving member of the group? I would say Lee. Are you Lee? And how long are you from day one, Lee? Take your time. I started learning in 2002, I think it was. Aye. So here's the bet. Did you just come under the band, Lee, with no experience? I never played it before. I played a bit of guitar and ten-muscle before, but never went near the bag of pipes or anything. And there was a man called Mervyn Elven, the founder of the band. And he got myself and my sister in, and we're here since then. Did you find them hard to get on to, like, learning them or... It takes time and patience, but it's all what you put on to it. That's what you get back out of it. Of course, absolutely.  Would you practice every week, Lee? Kind of block his ears first. It's not going to cost you. You can read down the newspaper. Well, it doesn't matter how long you're playing, you're always learning. You're always learning. That's a good way. It's not great to see young boys join us. Yeah, that's brilliant. We had gone through a few years there where numbers were dwindling. And then... Do you think it was at Covid, really, or just hard to get on? It's hard to put a reason on it, but Covid did play a big part in it, like many things. Of course. It did hit the music button itself, too, and you had to build it up again. Well, it's brilliant. Many members have you in total? We have 28. That's fine. And then we have another group, I'd say. Well, I mean, the three is allowed to be 31, and then there's another group of young drummers that are starting as well. So we'll be nearly heading for the 40 mark soon enough. And do you say, as a process you go through, you bring these young people on, right? Is there somebody specifically tasked to them to bring them on? Because you're having your practice night. Obviously, I'd also want to practice with you. How to try and... I would kind of take the beginners, maybe, for the first 40 minutes, and the adults can be practising away, and by the time I reach the adults, then they'll have it. Brilliant, brilliant. Who have we got there? Ann Orr said, well done to your grandson. That's Kylian, playing amazing grace, and the whole band are fantastic. Where's Kylian? There you are, look. Your granny said hello, Ann. And Louise Scott says, hello, Blaine, from your cousin Louise and Edinburgh. Sound of a great-giver wave to... What, a camera, Jimmy? That camera there? Up there, where's Louise? Over here, Louise, give that camera... There we are now. Or did I say... Blaine, sorry, bigger pardon. Hello to Neve. Tell her, willow is listening. Yes, there you are. Is that her, Jimmy? Barry Orr says, great stuff, that's right. Right, we're going to get another tune, but we're going to take a quick commercial break, and we're going to come straight back, and what's the next... 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Flourishing. Like tenor drums? Tenor drums. Oh, right. It's hard to do that, isn't it? It looks well. It looks brilliant. Are you the only two that do that in the band? Oh, three of you, so thank you, pardon, my God. Yeah, it takes a bit of practice, just. But it looks great when it's done right, doesn't it? Let me say it right, give it a quick rattle there now, three of you. Just, we do this, like, pretty much for every competition, but... Would you get judged in that? How you doing it? It's more based on the beats, because we have small beats within just to kind of accent the... Excellent, excellent. Learning chord, well done. Thanks for talking to me. Sorry for putting you on the spot, if I did. Those are the three of them are all different tones. And then you've got the bass drum, then, too, which also has a difference. So you have the four drums that have all different sounds. They have different sounds? They have all different sounds, yeah. I would have just said that was... There were just three drums, I see. It just shows you, you know, you think you know bits and pieces, but you don't know none. From Argentina, congratulations to all the members, especially Dominique and her parents. Greetings from Palo. Palo, you know Palo? Wave into the camera, Roberto. I've got a stick here, that's the camera. Yeah! Very good. And Adele Davis, as well, don't do all the band, especially Killian, Ellie, and... Am I saying that, Alicia? Is that right? Yeah. And from Fia, listening on with her mum. You know how to wave to the camera? Yee-hoo! Baba McNulty's watching. Good man, Baba. And LaVenia Woodward. Big shout out... What do you mean? Big shout out to my son, Peter. Where's Peter? Mummy said she loves you. Give Mummy a wave in that camera, Peter. Yee-hoo! Brilliant. And, right, well, listen, once again, it's this coming Saturday night, the 27th, in the Cornwall Hall. And it's the born's night. And it's a great festival, and go-along. Tickets are today, what did you say? So, yeah, tickets are on Eventbrite. Eventbrite. Or if you want to contact any band member, or just get us on directly on Facebook. And how much are tickets again? It's 15 Euro for two. 15. That's a good night. It's a huge line-up with the... Yep, you have Tara Hoile, Amy Meehan, and, of course, the brilliant Yooka Leely Orchestra, with her own Donald Cabinet there as well. And hello, Leigh and Connor. Where's Leigh and Connor? There we are. Oh, come on, Jesus, I'm talking to you all now. You're talking to me all now. This is your only good Italian, you know. You got that door now, I don't remember who you were. Hello, Leigh and Connor, and all the band. Well done, super job. Brings back lovely memories over the years from Tina Moore. Thanks, Tina, not lovely. And George Brennan, Hi, Paul McDillard, and Jimmy and the band. Good man, George. Hope you're well, my friend. Right, will we get one more, Jimmy, do you think? What's the contract, say? Three? Squeeze it, give her money for it, will you? Could we get another tune? He... Right, do you mind? Yeah. Are they right? This one, Connor. Julie Jordan says, Hello, Abigail and Gabriel. Sounding well, a sounding grits, he says. So, well done indeed. Everyone, indeed. So, when he is out as in Parade, and have you any dates yet? Yeah, so St Patrick's Day is our next parade. We're actually at an event for... in the Clannery on the 28th of February, it's a charity event. Oh, very good. TJ's Wish to Walk. Oh, excellent, yes. So, we're performing at that. Oh, very good. That's our next after-burns night, and then St Patrick's Day then, and then we're into probably competition season then. And all this is a competition season last, Connor? Normally from May to August. Wow. So, we are looking at organising a contest in the town here. So, that hopefully will be either May or June time. We just have to wait for the calendars through various association associations. But that will take a bit of money, it will take a lot of people into the town. You're talking maybe about goods of 5,000 people. Well, there you see, it works both ways. We'll be calling out for sponsorship for that. You'll be calling out for sponsorship, of course, and you'd appreciate it very much. Once again, if people want to join the band, what nights do you practice? Mondays and Friday nights. And people can go along. Yeah, they can come along, or they can contact us through Facebook. Excellent. So, more than welcome to come along. Brilliant. Listen, I want to thank you all, genuinely very much, I really appreciate it. You're absolutely brilliant. Well done. And continue your success this Saturday night in the Commonwealth Hall, here in Leonard County, on a celebrated and born's night, and you will be in for a great night of entertainment. Thank you, everybody!