Good evening. Can you hear me okay? Try your sound, please. Did you need me to do something, Kimberly? No, I just wanted to make sure. The only way I have of checking my sound is if I have at least one other person log in and tell me they can hear me. I can hear you. Can you hear me okay? You sound great. Great. Thank you. Thanks. I have a few more logging on, and I want to invite anyone who is from an applicant team to also check sound. So if you'd like to raise your hand, we can go ahead and do a sound check for you. So it looks like just want to also mention this is for our applicant team. So we have Deline Whitlock. Want to go ahead and try that? Yes, I'm here. Thank you. Thank you. That sounds good. And also just to let everybody know, we use the webinar version of Zoom. And so for our staff, cameras are optional. And for our applicants and the rest of our attendees, we enable sound only. So if you feel like your camera is not working, that's okay. That's the way it's supposed to be. And then we also have Jacqueline Smith. Are you part of an applicant team? No. No, there it goes again. Okay, Jacqueline, let's go ahead and check your sound there. Hi, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Great. I'm with the found group team. Okay. That sounds great. Thank you so much, Jacqueline. Thank you. I want to welcome our attendees this evening and give our applicant team a chance to do some sound checks. If you are part of an applicant team and you'd like to do a sound check, please raise your hand. And I also want to just clarify for everyone that we are using the webinar version of Zoom. And so for our applicants and our attendees, we enable sound only. So if you feel like your camera is not working, that's okay. That's the way it's supposed to be. Again, if you're part of an applicant team and you'd like to do a sound check, please raise your hand within the zoom meeting. And when you answer that prompt, you should be able to be heard. Hi there. This is Olivia. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Thank you. I just wanted to clarify. I'm not part of an applicant team. I'm here tonight with the city helping as a SQL consultant. So I just wanted to make sure that I was accessible and you guys could hear me have questions come up. I'm available to help answer any questions related to the environmental on both items on the agenda this evening. Okay. Thank you so much. Lauren. I'm going to go ahead and send a prompt for you. This is Lauren Bergman. Phoenix Development Company. I'm here and will be one of the presenters for this evening. Okay. Thanks, Lauren. Your sound is sounds just fine. Thank you. Your sounds great too. I hope so. Thanks. Thank you. We're going to be doing sound checks. Just a quick reminder too. Because you, you will be able to control your own sound. Please keep yourself muted during the course of the meeting unless it is time for you to speak. That would be helpful. Appreciate it. And if Michael who is listed here on the attendees list is vice chair, Bert from our design review board, if you could please raise your hand and we'll promote you to panelists. And I think we'll get started in just a moment. I want to make sure that everyone that needs to test their audio is able to do so before we get started. Vice chair, Bert, are you able to test your audio? Yes, that was a, that was a struggle, but yes, I can. I am. I'm here. Great. Thank you. Okay. So it's one minute after five. We'll go ahead and get started. I'm going to call to order this special meeting of the zoning administrator on June 13. And pursuant to the California government code and also the recommendation of the health officer of the county of Sonoma. We are conducting this meeting by way of zoom webinar members of the public can participate virtually by using the zoom URL, which is www.zoom.us slash join. And by calling toll free telephone number<PHONE_NUMBER>. And the meeting ID for today's meeting is 893-9167-6996. Public members of the public accessing today's meeting can provide comments during specified public comment periods by way of zoom by using either the raise hand feature or pressing star nine on your telephone. We are also live streaming this meeting on the city's YouTube channel. So let's go ahead and move on to item number two. This is just public comment. So this is a time when any member attending may address matters not listed on today's agenda, but are within the subject matter of the jurisdiction. And each speaker is allowed up to three minutes. So I will go ahead and open public comment on non agenda items now. If you'd like to make a comment, please press the raise hand button. I'm not seeing any hands raised so I will go ahead and close general public comment and move on to item number three, which is zoning administrator business. The purpose of the zoning administrator is to take action on various planning applications. Typically their minor applications or administrative permits. The zoning administrator is appointed by the director of the planning and economic development department. And any decision made by the zoning administrator is appealable to the design review board, cultural heritage board planning commission or city council as applicable to the decision. Item 3.2 is zoning administrator reports, and I have no reports for today. So we'll move on to item number four, which is consent items. There are no consent items on today's agenda. So with that, we can move into our scheduled items. Item 5.1. This is a public hearing for 3586 Mendocino Avenue. And this includes a minor hillside development permit and minor design review. And the presentation will be given by senior planner Shekali. Thank you, Miss Nicholson. So I'm going to share my PowerPoint and go over my presentation. It might be a little bit long presentation because this is a big project. So just be patient with me. Okay, let me see. I'm going to turn off my video. Share my screen here. You can see my screen, right? Good to go. Great. Okay. Thank you, Miss Nicholson. This project is for the name is Bantengro in multi-family rental housing project located at 3586 Mendocino Avenue. This proposal is for two planning entitlements. One is for a minor design review and one is for minor hillside development permit. So brief project description. The minor hillside development permit and minor design review are for a proposed 239 unit multi-family apartment project on an approximately 9.6 acre site. The units will be spread among six different buildings ranging from three to five stories. Here is an aerial perspective of the site as we can see. And it's showing the aerial view from the Mendocino Avenue. And about the unit, so 19 studios out of this 239, 19 of those will be studios. 125 units would be one bedrooms and 95 of them would be two bedrooms unit. The building will be three to five stories and the maximum height is 55 and they are being proposed to this height, the maximum of 55 feet height. The applicant is providing 59 bicycle parking spaces and the project would require 454 parking spaces and the site is providing 414 parking spaces. 238 of those spaces would be covered and the remaining 127 surface parking will be uncovered. The applicant has provided a parking study prepared by WTrans that has evaluated the proposed parking spaces for this project and concluded that this proposed 414 parking spaces are sufficient for the proposed project. Also, the applicant has provided a parking management plan that which describes how the parking would be managed on site for the guests and future residents. And here is the project site, which used to be the former location of the, for the Fenton Grove Inn and a restaurant. In 2005, there was an approved project for expansion of the hotel, which was going to add 22 units, and also rehabilitation of the historic grand bond. However, the site was destroyed in 2007 by the pubs fire. And here is the aerial view from the prefire for the same site. You can see here the two buildings, the two hotels building and the historical grand barn on the right side about this zone and general plan. So this property, the general plan land designation is retail and business services and the zone, the parcels have two zones. One zone is PD, PD 0296 and another one is also PD. Both of these PDs are for commercial and our general plan goal policy LUL E6 encourages residential developments in the retail and business service designations. Also, the project site is located within the Mendocino Avenue corridor priority development area and applications for design review for multifamily residential projects within this corridor area prior to development. Are delegated to the zoning administrator through the minor design review process, but they are subject to a conceptual design review by the design review board and a pre application neighborhood meeting. Additionally, the site has the resilient city combining the streak, which was adopted to address housing needs and economic development within the city of Santa Rosa following the tops and non-spire in 2017. Also per the zoning code, multifamily residential projects are allowed within the commercial plan development district without requirement of the use permit. And here is an overall site plan for the project site. This project site would include six patch residential structures ranging from three to five stories in high all buildings would include residential areas, private open space, circulation parking and utility areas. Building A B and C are located on the obstacle portion of the lot. Along of they are here. I hope you can see my arrow here along Randman Boulevard and would only have access from Randman Boulevard. Building D, which is the largest of six building is located at the corner of Mendocino Avenue and Phantom Gove Parkway and includes five floors. Building E also is along Mendocino Avenue and contains four floor and last is building F that is located along the western property line and includes three floors. So here are two street views that shows the project site as it today. And the lower picture is from 2016 that shows the previously existed structures on the site. The Randman historic bond is at the corner here and the other part of the hotel structures. And here is the slope analysis map. As you can see here, the largest of the two buildings that are D and E building, both of them would be placed on the location of the previous buildings with the areas that were most mostly flat. And only some areas behind the building E would be placed on slopes more than 25%. And building A, B and C are cluster of smaller buildings located on the up slope portion of the lot along Randman Boulevard. These buildings will step in the hillside and include lower floors built into the hillside, which would minimize the visual prominence of the buildings. The majority of the sites for building F would be on a slope less than 10% that is going to be located on the northwest corner of the project site. Building F would be placed behind building E and would be screened by existing trees on that site. And also it would provide access by improving the existing emergency driveway that access would be also widened. Next slide. And here are the sections of the building B and F. And as you can see, majority of these two buildings would be placed on flat areas, except some corners that are behind building E and B. And here are the sections for building A and B and C. And I'm just going to go through almost each building separately and explain what's going on. So here is the cluster of building A, B and C. Building A would have 15 residential units. Building B would contain 10 units and building C would have 17 residential units. All the grand floor for these three buildings would include a private parking garages with tandem parking for two vehicles. Also at the corner of this area, which is at the corner of Randman and Fantingro Boulevard. A space is preserved for an art feature, remembering the historic Rand Barn, which was destroyed in 2017 top spire. The pictures or images on the right side shows the proposed Rand Barn monumental structure, which is a semi-circular and approximately 16 foot tall structure that would be presenting the former Rand Barn structure. Here is where those three buildings would be placed as it stands and the access would be provided only for those three buildings through Rand Barn Boulevard. And here is, I'm just using building A as an example because rest of the building has similar design and elevations. The proposed architecture features for this site is for all the buildings is a center Barbara Mediterranean Spanish revival style. The main architectural features in the building designs include light color stock wall, red tile roof, exposed beams, rounded arches and courtyards and the use of Juliet and full balconies. Proposed materials would include iron railing, decorative accents, tile accents, concrete tile roofs, and light color stucco and dark colored wall and trim accents. Buildings have been designed to set with the natural grade of the site, ranging in high from approximately 40 feet to 55 feet. And here are the elevations for building A with the covered parking garages on the first floor. And here is perspective view for these three buildings from Rand Barn where the entrance will be placed. And here is another perspective from Antengro Parkway and another perspective that is going to be from the Mendocino Avenue. And building B, which I mentioned, this is the largest building on the site. This building would include a total of 114 residential units within a proposed five-story structure. The grand floor would include a parking garage with 119 parking spaces. The also the grand floor garage also would include 29 bicycle parking spaces, 24 private storage spaces, leasing room, lobby, mail office and electrical and pool equipment areas. The second floor would include an additional 64 parking spaces and would also include private storage spaces. And also the third, second floor. Sorry, there are too many floors here. I'm trying to keep track of them. The second floor includes a spinning pool, barbecue area, a community room and exercise rooms. So as we can see, this is the largest room and it provides lots of outdoor, common and private spaces for the future tenants. The applicant and the architects are available today and they can go into more detail if there are any questions. And here is a picture from the existing site where the proposed building B will be placed. Here is another view from the site. And these are the elevations for building B. The lower elevation is from Mendocino Avenue. As you can see, our spaces are provided on the lower level and the maximum height is for five-story building. And here are the elevations from the site and the rear side of the building. And here is a perspective for building B at the almost at the corner of Mendocino Avenue and Fanting Grove. And here is building E. This building would include a total of 66 residential units within the proposed four-story structure. Also, the grand floor includes a parking garage with 59 parking spaces, a bicycle parking room with 24 spaces and 12 private storage spaces will also be included on the first floor and a lobby, mail and electrical equipment rooms. The second floor would also include another lobby area. And this building also provides a private outdoor space. As you can see here is on the left side between two structures. And here is the picture of the site where this building would be placed. And here are the elevations for the proposed building E. Again, the applicant can go over the detail if there are any questions. And lastly, here is the building F that will include 17 residential units within a three-story structure. There are no covered vehicle parking proposed for this building. A bicycle room that will provide six bicycle parking spaces also will be located on the grand floor for this building. To access this building there is, so just let me say this one that the site already has an emergency vehicle access that was from Hilton hotel coming to Fountain Grove Hotel. And here is the road, as you can see. This project is proposing to widen and improve this emergency access road that will also provide access to building F. And here are the elevations for the three-story building F. And here is a perspective for this building F from the site. And above the landscape plans, so here is the proposed landscape palette that includes trees, shrubs, grand cover and grasses with very low to moderate water usage. In addition to the existing oaks on site, three different species of oak trees are proposed to be added to the landscape as a part of this project. And there are total of 38 oak trees proposed. Common spaces are situated near exosinatic oak trees which will be preserved also as a part of this project. Just to mention that this building is within the high fire area, this project. So each building has a 30-foot defensible space set back and all planting with this area account for canopy spacing to ensure fire safety.  And above the project history, so a neighborhood meeting was held on March 2020. And then there was a concept design review that was presented with the design review board on June 4, 2020. In general, the design review board highly appreciated the project and they overall liked it. They had good comments about it. Some of the comments were like at a restaurant or like a commercial spaces, but the applicant response was like, it's not visible to provide restaurants on site. There were other comments that they would suggest the applicant to go over those comments and explain how they were answered. But again, I just want to say that the design review board highly appreciated the proposed project. And about SIKWA, so this project has been also reviewed in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act. Implementation of the project is within the scope of the general plan and associated environmental impacts were previously reviewed in the general plan EIR. The environmental checklist for streamlined review prepared for the project demonstrate that construction and operation of the project is within the scope of the center of the general plan EIR certified by the city of Santa Rosa in 2009. And it concludes that the project will not result in new or more severe significant impacts that were not previously identified and mitigated in the general plan EIR and no substantive new mitigation measures would be required for implementation of the project. And the project is required to implement all applicable mitigation measures identified in the EIR as well as applicable policies and implementation measures contained in the cities. Adopted general plan intended to reduce environmental impacts which have been imposed as the environmental condition of approval and they are attached with the resolution. And about public comments, so I will try to give a summary of the comments we have received from the time this project was notified from the beginning neighborhood meeting. So one of the main comments were about that future housing in this area would increase the traffic. So the applicant has provided a focus traffic study that is prepared by WTrans and WTrans is also available tonight if there are any questions they can address it. The report concludes that the proposed project would generate 78 additional trips daily, 27 more trips during the morning peak hour and only 11 more trips during the evening peak hours. And the project would not result in unsafe traffic conditions. Additionally, the proposed project would dedicate right of way along along Fentanyl Parkway Frontage for the future construction by the city for an additional best handling. There was a question about whether this project is providing affordable housing on the site and the applicant has not proposed any affordable housing on site. It's a market rate project. And there was a question about if the applicant is providing any evacuation plan and permanent generators on the site for emergency situation. The applicant has provided an evacuation plan which has been reviewed by our fire department and also generators are provided in building B for emergency, like an emergency fire emergency situation. The applicant can explain it for if there are any more questions. There was one comment about accessing building A, B and C is unacceptable and not safe. So fire department has reviewed the project and they didn't add second access for those building and no additional comments or conditions were added. Also, there was comment received about Santa Barbara design style is not appropriate for Santa Rosa Sonoma Canyon. So as I mentioned in the previous one of the previous slides, the project was reviewed by the design review board as a concept item and it was appreciated. And it was welcome by the design review board, some additional comments were provided. I just want to mention that on Friday I have received another email about this project. I will give you a brief summary of the comments. The project also had concern about the traffic, which I mentioned that the traffic study has prepared for this project. Also, it was a question about that the overpass on highway 101 is not sufficient and I have received comment from our traffic division Nancy, she can go over those comments. It's in the city's planning future to work on the overpass on highway 101. And what okay, and then a question was about what is going like what happens with the impact is and where where is their use audited. I told this person to review chapter 202 inclusionary housing. In that chapter it explains where does impact the go and how it's being used. And then another question was that people would be living and decide would be impacted by noise, by no noise air and carbon pollution from the freeway, as well as Fountain Grove Parkway Mendocino Avenue. And how do we plan to mitigate the medical and everyday effects that's situated, not mentioned in journeys and apartment traffic. So the staff responses that the impacts of the environmental on the project are not considered environmental impacts on their sequel. In one however environmental contingent approval are included for this project for the air quality and noise. And they are requesting that the applicant incorporate a higher filtration for building the and if and reduce interior noise by requiring the installation of forced air mechanical ventilation and installation of the sand rated windows for building a B and E and require review and confirmation of interior noise levels by a qualified acoustical special during the final design phase of the project. And with that the planning and economic development department recommends that the zoning administrator by resolution approved the Fountain Grove in multiple family rental housing project for a proposed 239 unit developments located at 3586 Mendocino Avenue. Our number PRG 20 dash 021, which they have two planning entitlements minor design review and for me. And that was my presentation I'm available to answer questions. I know the applicant team and the architects are also available to answer questions if there are any. Thank you. Thank you. Michelle colleague for a very thorough presentation. That was helpful. Just to clarify the applicant doesn't have a presentation or any comments just available for questions. applicant doesn't have any presentation but if they want to provide any comments. If the applicant for this project and please use the raise hand feature and just confirm if you'd like to make any comments. Otherwise I can move into questions that may be appropriate for you or Michelle colleague. So it looks like we have Justin Heyman Justin I'm going to send a prompt and you'll, if you answer the prompt should enable your sound. Yes, thank you this is Justin Heyman we don't have any comment at this time. Okay, thank you so much. I do have a few questions but before I get into those. We do have Vice Chair birch he's vice chair of the design review board and he is available to make some comments regarding the board's concept review of this item. So, it looks like he's ready to go here I'll let him speak thanks. This is Michael birch I am the Vice Chair of the design of you board. I did not see this project originally, but I have watched the tapes and read the minutes and just was going to give a quick briefing as to the design of you comments. For me, it feels like most of those comments have been considered or thought about a couple of comments that were a little bit. And I think this is already addressed a bit in Planner Chicago's discussion, a couple of comments that were a little bit off of the design review topic for the consideration of retail, I throw it out there I understand that it may or may not be workable, and also paying homage to the round barn and burn structures or the fire and certainly appears as though there's some, there's some thought around that so that's great. A couple of comments, maybe one from the board one from the public about the architectural style. Being appropriate or not, I throw that in there I think, I think the project is quite attractive and I think it was a really limited comment from design review. I do know that there were a few comments from design review about kind of owning the fact that hillside is a unique setting and working with that from a landscape design standpoint. In the course of that perhaps adding more walking areas and maybe some some pockets for residents to hang out or do things using vines and landscaping that the ground plan to break up massing I know that's a fine balance between how much landscaping you want to plant and how much defensible area there is. One comment from an architectural standpoint that probably resonated the most was making sure that the buildings were foresighted it's part of our design guidelines. I recognize that due to grades and some other things that elevations can be a bit tricky, but between architecture and landscape we want to make sure that we don't have elevations of the building or views to the site that present less than you have to fully developed architectural design, we don't want flat surfaces or blanks or backs or that sort of thing. Those those were a handful of the comments that came from design review and I would be happy to answer any questions if Amy has some or if the applicant does as well regarding the current design which I've reviewed as well so. Vice Chair Birch. I don't have any questions for you at this time but I'm going to ask a few questions of staff and also the applicant. And so I may might come back to you but really appreciate that summary. One of my questions relates to the parking and the site plan so I understand that there's a request for a, I believe it's a 9% parking reduction. I reviewed the parking analysis that was prepared by WTrans. I don't have any questions about the parking reduction my question is related to the number of spaces that are adjacent to the various buildings. Ms. Shea Colley it might be helpful if you can screen share the site plan and perhaps if the applicant can talk through a little bit about just related to the number of parking spaces provided and sort of which, which buildings those parking spaces would be allocated for. I saw that there was a kind of parking management blurb attached to a public comment. So like one of my questions is the parking lot that's just north of building D but it's not, it's just surrounded by trees. If those are kind of envisioned to provide parking for tenants of a particular building and just sort of how, how you thought about where the parking would be provided relative to the units. I would refer that question referred to the applicant team so they can answer how many parkings are dedicated outside around the buildings. Maybe Justin they can answer it. And you can I, Mr. Heyman I think you should have speaking permissions if you just press the unmute button. I sent a prompt as well but once we do the sound check it should be pretty smooth. Are you able to send another prompt. Oh, it looks to be okay now. Yeah, perfect. Thank you. Yes, hi this is Justin I believe our architect Lori Felbert wanted to take this one. Thank you. I don't. Let's see. Oh, there it is. Okay. I'm sending a prompt. For you. Did that work okay. Yeah, we can hear you. Thank you. Thank you. First off, thank you money. Very thorough presentation in terms of the parking as a as a hillside development. The vision that we developed in conjunction. What we're working with staff was that this was a holistic community and the the great analysis that was presented illustrates what we're working with on the site so we really tried to get as much parking adjacent to the buildings as we could that small area of parking. And that you noted is just surrounded by trees is probably going to function as overflow, particularly given the parking analysis provided by W trans. And so we're not necessarily saying that's exactly for one building or the other, usually on projects of the scale particularly with the numbers that they were giving us for what they thought the parking demand would be is significantly lower than what we're providing for only a 9% reduction. There was quite a bit of room for reduction in there that they noted. So that parking will get used as as the as the tenants move in as the community really starts to get its legs under it and develops who's going to live here and what their lifestyle is so we don't necessarily have that particular lot as well it's only going to be for this. It's really part of the evolution but it all adds to the the totals for the community. Yes, that's, it's helpful to know that that there isn't an assignment of spaces, you know, in lots to different buildings. The reason that I asked about it was just thinking about pedestrian circulation and safety on the site. So if somebody parks in that, that lot north of building D, but they're trying to get to building F. I noted that there aren't any sidewalks and I realized that it's a steep slope there and we're up against a property line as well on the kind of on that northern section I'm just wondering if there's an opportunity or if you've thought about how pedestrians move from that parking lot to other buildings for example if they weren't just going to building D or E. Yeah, and you know, between that that parking area and building F to your to your point I mean that's really a continuation of the parking lot. As a, we've reviewed this with fire and with with building and as a an emergency vehicle access it doesn't go anywhere except to your own homes. And so there's no through traffic on that it's really kind of like walking through the parking lot so you're exactly correct we are very limited by the hillside. We did investigate looking at putting in some more connectivity across the site unfortunately to get it to meet ADA standards it would look like a bomb went off on the site by the time we were done. And so we aren't really able to do as much connection as we'd like, just because of the nature of the landform, and we didn't want to just grade the entire hillside to where it looked like such an industrialized setting for people to live in. Sure, I can understand that thank you for those comments and I thought maybe I read something about a golf cart. Maybe being stationed in in that parking lot or, and maybe building D to help with circulation. Yeah, I think you're, that was an operational element that ownership is is providing it's, I'm not answering that part because it's not an architectural component, but yes. Okay. Thank you for your response. And go ahead Mr. Heyman. Can you hear me now. Yes. Okay. Thank you yeah so we are planning to have two four seat golf carts, and we are going to station one near building F, and then one down in the building the garage which is the hub so residents that need to get between the two areas will have a safe path to travel that way. Okay, great thank you. I did note, I believe Vice Chair birch mentioned this and I, I also saw it in a public comment and noticed it myself and I think that mission colleague, probably presented a good explanation as it relates to defensible space but there are a few elevations where there are some blank walls. Because someone, and perhaps the architect is the best to address this, maybe describe in those particular areas that you've explored different options and none of those would, none of those landscape options would work because of just defensible space requirements. And also, is there any, are there any cases where there's some existing. Oak trees that are on site because I do see some of those as kind of shadows. Yeah, on these renderings. Can you still hear me or am I muted again. I can hear you. Oh, perfect. Yeah, we, we actually did work with the designer view board and talk through which of the areas and so the, the trees are shadowed so you can actually see the architecture but there are trees in front of all of those areas. To the left of this there is a grove of mature oaks that it's kind of the left of this bottom building here. And you look into them between the two buildings in the back but yeah so even though they're defensible space the landscape plans actually updated and showed trees in those areas so I think we've addressed all of those locations. Okay. Great. Thank you. I think that concludes my one final question mission colleague I noted that you described one piece of late correspondence that wasn't summarizing your presentation. So it was just limited to that one and that was what was, I believe I saw that included as late correspondence on the agenda. Correct, there was one received on Friday from let me give the name from this person named Pat, Pat is declare. She provided comments, and some of the questions were answered by the applicant above affordability. She sent two emails and the second one came in on Friday. So I believe it was not included in your late correspondence. So I just tried to give a brief summary of what the comments were. Okay, thank you. Okay, so with that I will go ahead and open the public hearing for this item. If you wish to make a comment please use the raise hand feature on zoom or press star nine on your phone. Okay, I'm not seeing any hands being raised. So with that, I will go ahead and close the public hearing portion of this item. So I have reviewed the resolution so that the actions before the zoning administrator today for this project are design review a health side development permit. And then the design review also includes some findings for the parking reduction of 9%. I appreciate all the findings I think that they're, they're well supported and I also want to mention that I reviewed the the secret document and comparison with the city's current general plan EIR and I appreciate that level of analysis for this project. I did want to ask if miss Adams our transportation transportation planner has any, any comments that she'd like to provide as it relates to traffic and circulation just because I know that that was mentioned by a few members of the public. So, so thank you Amy I, I think. Mr colleague did a great overview of the project including the, the traffic and I will. And by the way I'm Nancy Adams with the transportation and public works department and the traffic engineering team. And so just, you know, I think the main thing operationally that we wanted to make sure that we secured from this applicant was the right away so that we could eventually at some time have enough room to add an additional westbound left turn laying there at that intersection of found grove and Mendocino and which, which the applicant will be providing as part of their, you know, working with the city. So, I think that's, you know, that that was a pretty significant help for us operationally at that that intersection so I don't really have anything else to add I thought when they did a great job. Thanks. Great, thank you. I do have one additional question it actually relates to the round barn. Feature. Mr shake all if you wouldn't mind, can you screen share that section. I just want to get a little bit of clarity on that design and ask a process related question to. And I would also suggest the architect, go into more detail if there are any. Let me see where is. Okay. Here, this one on the left side. The location is at this corner, and this would be the design structure. Okay, and what is, what's the height I'm sorry I've seen the max proposed 16. Okay, and it's, it's fully outside of any vision triangle, correct. Okay. And then, just so I'm more fully understand the design so it's not a full circle it's, it's half circle correct here and then what is, what is the other side look like that the side that just shows as open as is it going to actually be closed or is it going to be open and what does the material look like on the other side and the architect can answer to. Sure, I've unmuted can you hear me again. Yes. Great, thank you. Yeah, so basically what it is is it allows you to see the structure on the inside as well. So it's not trying to be a complete building and we're not walling off that side, but it allows you to see the components of how the roof is held up the trust work all of that element that that created the original round barn it obviously everything is scaled down. But we felt like it gave a really nice view to it and then there's going to be a plaque outside more towards the public sidewalk that it gives a little bit of the history the round barn. Great. Thank you. Okay, so that should conclude my questions on this item. Oh, I see the vice chairs hand being raised. I just I had I'm fascinated by the round barn. Recognition, I wonder if you thought about turning this the other direction so that all of the 10s and hundreds of thousands of car trips actually saw the interior and saw that support system and that sort of thing just just interesting thoughts so you know the public visibility was always to the outside. And so we wanted to continue with the visual that was more to the public because it was private property before people couldn't just go in it. And so we felt like that was, it might be interesting for for those of us who are architects or construction folks but I think from a general public standpoint and a memorable the outside form is more pleasing probably to most of the most of the public. Yeah, excellent. Bear with me I'm just pulling up the draft resolution of approval here. So as I mentioned earlier I think the findings. I agree with each of the findings for design review I feel like the applicants have done a good job of addressing comments from the design review board so that's certainly appreciated that's why we want, or actually we require that these projects go to concept review so thank you for taking those comments seriously. I don't have any concerns about granting the parking reduction given the site's location within one of our priority development areas. We want to encourage this type of land use in these areas that have more access to transit and also there are more services available nearby. As it relates to the hillside development permit I agree I think there were some comments made about the project design being sensitive to the the topography and and I agree I think just the the breaking up of the massing and how the buildings are placed, like the heights are related to the natural grade I think really does help to minimize the visual impact. And appreciate the largest buildings being on the the flattest part of the site that was previously developed. And also that a lot of the trees will be preserved as well and provide some some screening and just make it appear more, more natural so just quickly looking at the conditions of approval thank you for adding in the requirement to comply with the environmental requirements that were cited in the secret document. And also for including the engineering development services conditions. So, with that, I will approve this project so the design review and the hillside development permit. And just a note to those listening this action is appealable 10 days following today's decision so that would be June 23, which is a Thursday. So if you would like to file an appeal please contact contact Michelle Kali and she can help you out with that effort. And thank you to everyone who attended to support this item. Appreciate your time. So, we're ready to move on to item 5.2. This is a public hearing for 701 Wilson Street and this is also minor design review and the presentation today will be given by deputy director Jones. Okay, great. Thank you and give me one moment while I get my PowerPoint pulled up here. All right, good afternoon zoning administrator Nicholson. I am Jessica Jones the deputy director for our planning division. Connor McKay is a project planner for this project but he is out of town so I will be presenting it for him today. The project is the Pullman locks face to project, which is proposing to construct 40 residential units on a five story in a five story multifamily development. This includes a floor a ratio of 2.19. The project also includes 5% of the units or two of those units designated for affordable households. The project features four units and five tuck under parking spaces on the ground floor, and then on floors two through five there would be nine units each on each of the floors. And those units would range in size from about 414 feet square feet to 625 square feet so pretty small units. These for building C will be provided and shared by the Pullman phase one portion of this project which is on the north end of the site. I'll show you in just a moment. And that project is currently under construction.  The project site that is located at 701 Wilson Street so it's a long skinny site that's located on the east side of the rail line. The existing phase one project that is currently under construction is on the northern end of this site so this this area obviously was taken prior to the construction of the of the new portion. So that's happening, like I said on the northern end, and the proposed project will be down here on the southern end. So the project is designated by our general plan in the neighborhood mixed use designation. The maximum floor area ratio which is how we look at density in this in the downtown area. The maximum for this parcel is for this is established by the downtown stationary specific plan which was recently adopted by Council, given the size of this lot, and the overall square footage for both phases. The total floor area ratio for the project as a whole is 1.34 so well below the maximum of four. The project is within the downtown stationary specific plan, which is also one of our priority development areas or PDA for short, and the site is zoned neighborhood commercial mixed use which is consistent with the general plan land use designation. In accordance with the zoning code similar to the last project that the that we heard because this project is within the PDA. The design code allows for a reduced review authority so rather than going through the designer view board for action. The project can come before the zoning administrator. However, concept design review by the designer view board is required, as with the previous project. So the designer view board reviewed this particular project in January of 2022. And similar to the last project, we've got Vice Chair birch here from the designer view board, who will go over the comments that were provided by the board at that time, and I'll go into them and a little bit myself. The project is on the east side of the west end preservation district, which is one of the city's preservation districts. And on the far side of the smart train railway as I mentioned already. However, the project is not located within the preservation district. And as a result of that that just the review by the cultural heritage board was not required. I just want to note that there is no parking requirement for this site as established by the downtown stationary specific plan. However, however, the project does propose to provide five parking spaces, including one electric vehicle charging station. And then additional parking will be shared with phase one for this project, which includes new parking along Wilson street. So these next two slides are showing the elevations of the proposed building. This is looking northeast from 8th street. And then this is looking west from Wilson street. And then this is the floor plan for ground floor as I mentioned that there are parking spaces on the ground floor, along with four units. And then this is a sample of the upper floors, which have lines. So a little bit of project history so the project was reviewed through a neighborhood meeting on January 12 of this year. There were a number of comments received during that meeting. Overall, there was support for multifamily residential at this location. And then there were several questions that were received that staff has provided responses to go through those quickly. First question was regarding the density of the project and whether there could be additional density added. And staff's response was that the project could be more dense, but that this was the most cost effective solution for the site and the project. And then there was a significant height that is appropriate for this location. Next question was why there was no retail proposed as part of this project. Staff's response was that the applicant is a primarily a residential developer and intends to maximize the residential units at this site to attract and support future retail uses in the general area around this site. They were also located in neighborhood mixed use land use area, which will allow for other retail land uses by rights in the immediate area. And then as far as concerns that were heard at the meeting they mostly were revolving around traffic and parking. Staff's response to those concerns that were raised is that the applicants presentation at that time described how the project's location transit oriented development and target residential market are anticipated to result in reduced reliance on cars, which will result in a reduced traffic and parking demand. And also the pollen phase one project, which is currently under construction includes 17 about 17 new parking spaces on Wilson street. And then as mentioned, the project was reviewed in concept by the design review board and that happened in January of this year. The board provided numerous comments which are listed here. Just in general, there was support by the board for the project in response to the comments that are listed here on the slide. The applicant did make some revisions to the project. And those included the electric vehicle charging station was relocated to a more central location. The applicant has replaced the previously proposed lap siding at the corner of Wilson and eight street with gray stucco to provide greater continuity on the eastern facade. The applicant has added additional stucco color to the body of the of each building to provide more color vibrancy and achieve greater color consistency with Coleman lots phase one. They have provided the window design and introduce new color to the window treatment and provided more continuous vertical articulation to break up the flatter southern building facade. They've also relocated the rooftop equipment to minimize visibility from the public right of way. And then additional vertical landscape trellises have been added on the eastern building facade and a decorative pot has been proposed at the building entrance located outside of the public right of way. There was a request for modification of one of the design standards which was submitted to the city and considered by the director, which is the option that is provided by our municipal code specifically for projects that are complying with the city's inclusionary housing ordinance by providing onsite affordability. So as I mentioned, the beginning of the presentation the applicant is providing 5% of the units or two units as affordable to low income households, which is 80% of the area medium income. Those are going to be onsite units. But the applicant is entitled to concessions within our inclusionary housing ordinance. So their request was to modify the front setback on the street frontage from the required five to 12 feet setback to zero. And this was reviewed by the director of the planning and economic development department and approved pursuant to our son. The project was reviewed in compliance with the California environmental quality act or sequel, and was found to qualify for a statutory exemption under secret guidelines section 15182 in that the project is consistent, or excuse me, consists of residential and is consistent with the adopted downtown stationary specific plan for which a final subsequent EIR was prepared and certified by the city council in October of 2020. And the consistency analysis which was prepared by M group, dated June of 2022 supported this finding. So we have received numerous letters for this project. We've gotten three letters of support are listed here we actually received an additional fourth letter support today. That additional letter of support was just talking about general support for multifamily housing and particularly these smaller type units in this location. We also received a couple letters of concern. The, the first letter of concern was regarding the fact that they felt that the units. There's insufficient units that are designed for affordable households. So the reason that housing does not work to alleviate the region's housing crisis. As mentioned one, this project is providing much smaller units than we typically see for, for bigger projects so I'm pretty small, about between four and 500 square feet. And then also the on site inclusionary housing will provide on site units for affordability. And the other letter of concern that was received was expression concern again regarding the parking. And as mentioned, this site is not required to provide parking, but they are on this particular in this particular phase and then also there's additional on being provided in the first phase of the project. And then also would also note the projects, nearness to various public transit including the downtown smart station which which is a walking distance of the site. So with that, the planning and economic development department recommends that the zoning administrator by resolution approved the pulmon loss phase two project, allowing the construction of a new five story structure to accommodate 40 multifamily units located at 701 Wilson street. So I am available for questions we also have the applicant here and I believe that they have a presentation, which I'm happy to share when they are ready. Thank you so much Deputy Director Jones does the applicant. Okay, I see a hand raised so Miss Jones if you're ready. I would like to see the applicant presentation next thank you. Okay, I will get this going here. Okay, so I think that when the applicants ready. Good evening, zoning administrator Nicholson, I appreciate the opportunity here. My name is Lauren Brigham and I'm president and co owner of Phoenix development company. I'm going to make this really quickly because I think Ms Jones did a very good job of walking through the project. And I think that it would probably be more conducive for me to just be available to answer questions. I do have also available I believe online. Marvin Moss our architect. Justin Heath, our landscape architect and I believe Ron Sansos our civil engineer is available. This is an aerial view you can see off to the right there. What we call buildings A and B that are currently under construction ready to occupy this August. And basically what this we call building C which is actually could be some people call phase to some call building C what it is actually the book and and and the completion of this side of the Wilson Street redevelopment. The character that has been employed through this whole project is probably trying to emulate some of the industrial look in the area, and to simplify and and create some vibrancy along Wilson Street then and basically recover for the neighborhood property that was an eyesore in its previous condition. One one quick point about Mr Jones comments on the unit sizes. You know we're also at Phoenix we we have our feet in both sides of the market and affordable market. We recently completed button flats over on third and in Dutton, and that project is a light tech project designated for families at 60% or less of a MI. There was over 1600 people on the interest list. Many were turned away because they made too much money and over qualified. And that's kind of been a target market that my partner Michelle Olson and I have been looking at for a couple of years now is how to make something affordable for what is getting to be known as a missing middle. And so that this project is designed to fit that marketplace and it's basically that's why we downsize units, the cost of constructions is extremely high. And it's probably the highest it's been in years, and to get the correct amount of investment and return and to pencil out for our lenders. We're able to, but still charge rents that are are attainable for those people in this missing middle market. What are the next slide please. Team. That's us next. And there's our design group next. We can go next. You see the site you did all that fine next. There are changes that basically we've incorporated based on our both our community meeting and our design concept review with the design review board. We took into account as many of the suggestions and you can see it in the final result. Next. Next. I think you've seen all of this, you know, honestly, I think Ms. Nicholson I think maybe the best thing to do would be to open it up and to first get the chairman on here and let him make his comments and then get some community feedback and then let myself and my team respond to questions. I think everything else we're going to see here is fairly redundant of what Miss Jones very elegantly a display previous to this. So at that I'll unmute and I'll let you do what you want to do. Thank you so much. I appreciate the suggestion and, and so I'll ask the vice chair if he's able to make some some comments at this time. Yeah, this is Michael birch vice chair of design and view board. Like, as Lauren said, Jessica wrapped up the comments from the designer view board very clearly had pretty much the same bullet points. And then there were some items that she listed, including some, some, you know, articulation color facade questions, the EV charging, working on the base of the building a little bit screening the mechanical equipment. Those were all of the comments that we had as well. And then I think it's really, really hats off to you Lauren to the development team to design team. I just shared at the end and what I've seen in looking at the updated package. You guys, you know, basically hit every one of those points responded and the design has improved as a result so from my perspective and the designer view board I think this was an excellent response to the comments that we made and we appreciate the collaboration and your ongoing work in Santa Rosa. Thank you so much vice chair birch really appreciate those comments. And so, I don't think I have any, any questions right now but what I'd like to do is open the public hearing portion so if you wish to make a comment on this item please use the raise hand feature on zoom. Give it a few seconds here. Seeing none, I will close the public hearing portion of this item. And I guess I do have, I appreciate, I'll just say I appreciate the presentation how you talked about how the comments from the board were addressed and how the vice chair reiterated that that's that's really helpful, especially reviewing this project after the board has seen it so I can cross that question off. I saw that there's two, two units that are to be made available for a low income households. So are these deed restricted units. Yes, so as required by our code. In order to be considered compliant with our inclusion housing ordinance they will be required to be deed restricted at that low income rate. Great thank you.  Any additional comments that came in today. Okay. Thank you. Just taking a final look at the draft resolution of approval so this is for minor design review. And I did review the consistency checklist that was prepared to comply with the California Environmental Quality Act. I appreciate how concise it was just in showing that this project is consistent with the downtown station area specific plan. I also noted because I was present at the design review board meeting back in January, how the project had changed just really quickly seeing the new plans and appreciate the incorporation of some of the colors that I think related. Well to the existing or under construction pulmon loss. And I agree with each of the findings that are included in this draft resolution. So, with that, I'll go ahead and approve this resolution for minor design review. And please note that that action is appealable so Thursday June 23 would be the appeal deadline for today's action. So that concludes item 5.2. And we can move on to our last item which is item number six. Thank you all for attending and please note the appeal period. If you have any questions, please contact the project planner. Thanks all for your time. Thank you.


Do you go into, a lot of people use intention before they're taking some kind of drug actually to make sure a trip goes well or something like that. Do you do that before you meditate as well, set an intention? Ooh, that's a beautiful question. I would say forms of that, yes. There's everything you can do with intention or like it could be ritualized in a way like cleaning the dishes. I love cleaning the dishes. I use it as a karma yoga where you're clearing out your mind and you're clearing these dishes. Simple intentions like that. When I drink water, I'm so grateful. Let me be like water. There's intentions with everything. I think with my mind having, if it is at a point where some reason I did something I didn't like, because our minds are very problematic in nature, so we hold on to those energetic threads that we're trying to understand why that happened the way that it did, even though it just did and it was supposed to. Our minds hold on to it and if I need to consciously construct or consciously think, I'll do that with affirmation so that would be my form of intention sending. If I can't allow my mind to be quiet because it's thinking of something negative or good. You'll replace that within the meditation, replace affirmations in the meditation. What's the level of perspective of that too? It's like a perceptual position in yourself. I'm feeling this, I feel this of what happened, what was that person thinking? What would a psychologist say? What would my higher self say in this action? Then I drop back into my own identity. I'm like, okay, what do I really feel? Then you have a different perspective, a higher up thinking of what that is and it's healed in real time and you can move on. Our mind is only remembering things 50% of the way what actually happened. You can go back and reconstruct that into something that isn't as energetically heavy or weighs down your soul, just something that can be dissolved and let go up. That is so beautiful. Why have I never thought of that? Right, because, yes, our memories are terrible. And eyewitness testimony is the worst kind of testimony you can have because people always get it wrong. They create stories subconsciously and what you're saying is you can do that intentionally and reform a memory. Even if you have a really bad one, I teach this to the NLP, you can go back and animate it. If it's really bad, whatever could really bad to you because it's all relative. But go back and you can animate it and change it into something funny. So there's a stigma of humor to it too where it's a little bit lighter, where you still face it but then you change it. And over the time you realize it's like, okay, it's kind of just repressed itself and maybe even let go up. That's cool. I love that. But also conscious thinking. So with the breath and with the conscious thinking, that's a good way to calm your mind. So if I'm not completely present and feel one with everything that is in this environment, what can I do to change my perspective or harmonize with it consciously to then be able to let go of it? Because you're strengthening yourself when you do that too.


Probably should have done the tutorial first I think we can work it out we got all the controls and I will not take Everything now, but I know that there's no way to distribute it afterwards You always do that though For comedic effect. Oh, yeah, I'm laughing Having anything your game footage is capturing everything then You've been captivated Capture the easel bit summer set me summer It's not an English name speaker He's in hey your eyeballs just shot out Right okay one thing for each. Yes. Yes. Ah Jesus don't like a fire underneath me ours. Good God Before we go I wanted to say just just just so it's easier Okay, okay, click space, but okay five four three two one I was like a second delay never but come here I took a picture of the corpse. Oh my god. Okay. Let's go. Let's go guys. Oh my god We're fast. Yeah, but we got some you do you have a stamina bar? Okay, guys everybody split up. Let's go go go go you get busy if you can't continue Yeah, you must gather more. Oh, that's the exit. I was running to okay. We need evidence to leave. Ah We need to find all the dead bodies. Oh, we should probably say that this game is called the hunted. Oh, yeah The hunted welcome everybody to the I have a feeling Yeah, it's like Slender Man is the more pictures we get of dead bodies the more active the creature will be do you think so It's just an idea. I also have no idea what the creature is apart from the steam banner that looked like a bat And yeah, I saw I saw a bat of some some description. Wait, where did you guys go? We went nowhere. Where are you now? What I'm running back to the campfire because it's so dark. I Excited, let's go back. No, yeah, I heard that too Right, we need to regroup because it's so freaking dark Which is your flat luck your flashlight is the only thing you can see can you see the campfire? No Wait, so might buy myself at the base camp Yeah, we're on our way. We're on our way.  Oh, oh my god, I felt the hair everywhere stand up on it I've got goosebumps Oh It was like a giant bat and it was back We should stick together either way Let's go back towards where we're going from because I feel like that was a good like location So that's a part of a road though. Yeah, that's our cheek No roads are not for sheep. That's literally what You went what is that and though I had a crack from the discord where it tries to cut people out About a minute later you start responding in a deep breath like Yeah, it was honestly it was Okay, yeah, by the way, it there was just silence there was no build up to it just appeared Oh It's gonna get me it's gonna get me I beat me again and I think it's leaving it bites you once and then it leaves It's cool. Oh my god.  Well done. We got another one. Yeah corpse. Oh We're freezing by the way. We probably need a fire But I don't know how to turn it on though. Oh, there we go. Okay, should we Get some heat and then carry on woods. I think yeah, I think so. I what was next. We're at the leaky Remember what's after the leaky? No Okay My torch is running out of batteries again. Love that I'm gonna use excited torch instead of using mine to conserve Barry you okay with that excited Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, this actually is a smart idea guys. Yeah, I don't mean to alarm you. Yep. I've got my sixth sense going So walking like yeah Did you loop that from that box excited there was like one of each thing in there and I needed all Nice nice of you to it couldn't you know ask us Split one each thing I hear something Jesus Christ. Oh, oh, I think he's scared. Yes. Do you get a picture? Do you get enough evidence? Did you take a selfie? I saw the corner of it and then just turned and started running Okay, now is it scared of the campfire or is it scared of the photo? Okay, I'm just saying I feel like there should be a body around here somewhere this feels like a body vibe You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, definitely Going in. Oh, we can't go into the woods. Okay. No, okay So I guess the route we take from here is over that way because I saw lights to our right Okay, let's go that way then.  I mean what we get to with it. What are we gonna do with it? Gaslight gate keep girl boss Oh, you know, he hit me. He hit me No, I'm not dead, but he did hit me and if I understood these games where you have to eat constantly We're just really hungry bandits, you know what I mean? Constantly And go towards the light. Okay, awesome I Have seen the monster now I'm next man.   I know I'm on to now I think it was the cold that was killing me actually There is a camp far over here in a much more secure location if you want to come this way, okay Shall we go another direction? I suppose we've gone that way and well, there's nothing fun that way But what concerns me is there's finite resources and we have two of Yeah, I know right all right It's coming We kind of need to go where he is though. He's like that way Well, let's let's go. I'm probably gonna die, but hey ho if it's not the cold it'll be the hunger in the thirst Thank you That's why God someone take a hit for it go for it Thank you people there's food in this thing over. Oh, is this certain. Yeah.    Why do I let's just let's run towards it without Yeah, I don't I mean I'm saving my batteries for marriage He's coming. He's coming. He's coming. He's coming. He's coming. He's coming. He's coming. He's coming Oh, did he get you? Put down a cat fire This is riveting gameplay with no visuals apart from the light in the distance just a black screen editor Put up the the camera or whatever. Yeah Right everyone's a health worry, and I'm on 42 72 and what are you excited? 51 51 is he I'm the weaker still I'm hungry Tommy's got the rubble. Oh, someone got a torch. Oh, sorry fire. He's coming Not to alarm anyone I'm on to the last bar of my torch You still have a torch Guys the fact that we got cold Who's on the lowest health? It's right there. Maybe I'm not loving we can do Like just if we don't know that really isn't he's just bit vertical and buggered off. I now have 14 HP All right, let's keep going guys Maybe we should just die to the cold. Maybe that's better Colds coming the colds are coming So am I? Old meme Don't know where we're going don't know where we're going No way of knowing no way of knowing We're just a way we're going Surely no really nothing. It's just a landmark. Oh, yep. No Oh, I see the eyes in the distance. I see him Who's gonna die? Oh me.  Yeah? I'm just a ghost now.  But I picked them up from excited, which means he's been hoarding them I do like the fact that the fires are permanent that is beneficial. That's good. Hey with one health I make it never mind Yeah, let's try that one again this time we know what to do Sounds stupid, but I think it's best to split up No, because let's say someone keeps getting targeted then we won't have any way of protecting them Don't you think he's programmed to just go randomly for someone? Well, he might be but then it wouldn't make more sense if he was programmed to go for one person until I dead You know, I know I know why we didn't win. I've made the change. We're gonna win this time All right, are you ready? Are we ready? As ready as I'll never be One of each guys I Didn't get a health kit That's fine, okay, well, we know where to go to so guys get the first with a camera of that Then put the camera away. I assume it drains batteries. Yeah, and then we head this way. Okay with sprinting You guys sprint I'm going to oh no, because then you're just gonna loot this I need part of my fridge I need water and a health kit I need water and a health kit so do not loot the water I took one food because I've taken one food as well. I've taken one food Let's just try and get stuff done before it turns nighttime. Yeah, yeah before it gets dark before it gets dark You wouldn't think they would just put the bodies randomly in the forest, would you? God I truly hope not here's another one. It's got some water in it's got some water in oh glorious I'll tell the world everything else. I don't need Okay mm-hmm Frickin bat already Okay, yeah, I got a body body got body. I'll take a picture. I'll take a picture Amazing there we go. That's not the one we got last time and we know there's one on the launch by the hill hell Yeah, hell. Yeah, we got this guys. We got this Okay, well old machine seal team 69 moving in alpha team going dark I can't see anything Have a deep torch, please Frickin norton's just popped up in my screen like You have to bite me.  Oh did he get somebody either? Torch worked the flare I Think it tried to hit me, but I jumped on top of the box, and I had the quidink, but it didn't hit me Here around these landmarks, I'm just thinking that there might be a body and stuff like that. Yeah That's why I've just kept a look can we get in the water in the water and we can like Oh Where is he? Oh never mind. He rode he rode. Okay, we need to put fire on No, he definitely bit him We did it he missed. Oh nice. He's got a juke him. You can't do Kim Okay, here we go.  You know where to go. We'll save our I feel like we've gone off the path and going off the path is yeah, we have so You should be sticking to because of the monster and all monster bones, so I think there we go I found it. He's found it. He's found it. Look at him.  But I have the torch of that. I saw the thing and take picture. Oh Wait, never mind. I'll do it. I'll do it before we take this. What's everyone's battery count? I have got zero These are the James James James James. It's because I think every picture I take is a battery. So oh Yeah, I Was in the distance that glowing thing I think it's a lamppost No, that's not that the two dots that were directly in front of us.   Anyone got a flare or anything? No Let's run backwards I jumped off the bridge He's come fire on the bridge Oh, oh he missed he missed and he's given up My son some put down a fire we're getting cold Okay, okay. That's what I saw guys It's good. It's good. I like this. I will tell you a horror story from my youth. No Oh There once was a terrifying sight. Let's say on the sea Guys oh god Where is he I'm hiding underneath the thing he's going for excited Okay, I didn't get inside the hut. Oh excited. You've duped him and he's he's always he's in tears Absolutely in tears. Oh you made a mockery of him. Are you still looking around? Oh, he's coming back. Oh Everyone in the lab Hi, so you guys come here often Excited you said there was a left or right and you went towards the light. Do we go the other way?  I think it was Did he get you yeah I like how we've got past the point of fear now and it's like There he is little buggy Um, should we go right then? Oh, oh he's coming. He's looking at me Oh, he bit me.  He was nowhere near me Okay, so actually we were too slow Too slow Like I feel like this is when things are gonna start going bad. Yep. Oh god.  Look at him there. Ah, he's gonna come round. He's coming round He's smart. He knows this place It's okay. We're doing good. We're doing good I mean good is We're okay. We do better than we did last time Better Effectively we have to stick to the path because that's where we know bodies have been Yes, that's not to say that the game developers are cruel bugger that would have put them elsewhere Okay fire fire guys fire I've got it. I've got it. I've got it Like my fire Fire Fire Oh vampire don't like fire Which way we're going? Oh, guess who's here? Is he? Oh, there he is. Look high behind the fire. Look. He won't come at us. He's scared of fire. Remember? Who'd he get? Not me Not me either Do we have to lead him over the fire? He ate the fire? Yeah, he was like oh my wonder fire. Okay onwards and upwards my noble gentleman Let's go Oh, this is the tankered place. We we we haven't been here this run. Is that a buddy? I think I see bones Where you do where? On the floor over here by the tank. Okay, so it's random Yeah, yeah, I thought so Fire fire fire.  Nope It's just more of a nuisance now. He's like, oh fine. Just try it fine fine, right onwards and upwards gentlemen All right, let's go. Let's go No one cares about you Oh god, we're dying of we're dying. We're dying. We're dying. We're dying. I've got fire here got fire here We made it 30 meters It's so cold Where's our layers dammit? Why can't we turn on the fire? I have to know it's fine. What? It's not turned on for me. Is it not? It's not turned on for me I'm dying still. Are you still dying? It's not turned on for me Help turn it off and on again. Is it working? I'm dying. I'm actually dying. I'm dying Because I want to help. All right, I'll take the bite from the monster. I was Oh, never mind. I died Do you mean you died? He bit me and killed me Thank you for your sacrifice. You're welcome, dear. You're welcome I don't want to say that I should have taken the hit with 92 hp But I should have taken the hit No, I think it's on one person Oh, he's coming back already Now it's time to redeem yourself Yeah, he's coming Okay, now now run sprint sprint off. I'm still cold. I'm still cold. Oh, are you? Nene there you get a health kit and you'll live Right there. I see it. I see the health kit. It's so there. It's there's no health kit here for years ago It's so there. We're gonna make it Campfire campfire campfire campfire campfire campfire Oh, sweet Christmas. It's not turned on What if you just glitched? It might turn on. Yeah, it's turned on for me Well, basically we have to let you turn it on.  Yeah, yeah, there it is. There's another body Have you got a barry? Ah The bat's coming now. He's coming. He's are coming Oh, you think you can get me? Oh, you think you can get me? You can't get me So where's the other two then Jumping is just it's in the dark. I can't get you guys back or I mean, I guess so we could give it we give it like one more run like split up maybe this time Split out was probably the best option here. Yeah Right here we go guys Right so carlo is definitely vertigo Oh, no, no, it's vertigo backwards Idiot, okay. I've got one of each and I'm gonna go off. See you. Bye I'm gonna go right towards the um, the what you call it the tankers jump over the camp fire and I'm going the other way So I've been going that direction Oh, that's good. That's good Put down a fire so you know where you've you've been because we don't need a fire at the moment Yeah, I have no chance of ever meeting up with you guys again. It looks a bit really If you can take a picture of a thing, that's good. You've got bones Yep. Oh nice. I can hear bones too. Actually. Yeah, I found one You hear bones. Yeah, like the flies it makes flying noises like Okay, I'm just I'm in the woods now. Oh, I see a camp fire Do Yeah, like between rocks and stuff at the edge of a river Oh, that means you're near me. Oh I've done a loop to loop. Hey Yeah I'm a problem Wait, did we take a picture of the skeleton in the camp? Oh, no No, we did we should be on four out of seven We're just speedrunning this game right now. Yeah, we are Is anyone seen the monster yet?  There's the monster. Yeah, he was there. Yeah, he's already bit me so he shouldn't go for you Yeah, no, he's just walked right past me like he was like, right, mate How's doing gotta go this way to get home. See you later All right. How are you doing? Okay, I'm at the the tankards, but I don't see a body. Oh, no, I do. Yes another body Oh, and there's always one that spawns on the hill just past Oh, wait, hold on. Oh, it's only been got Exciting got this one. Dammit. I'm wasting a battery. I'm so nearly dead. I'm a 4380 No from the monster Excited are you okay? Oh, oh, he's found one. He's sort of breaking up for me, but your mic is breaking up, bro Oh Daft punk, is that you? Yeah, it does sound like that Oh It sounds quite rhythmic actually it does sound quite cool actually Oh, would you bugger off? I don't need you right now. Say something Oh I'm definitely dead Vertica excited there we go. We're gonna hear the movie. You have to dammit Hello worked, okay. It's discord just died discord died I need health. I need to just I just need to book it. I got 150 seconds until my next campfire, but I'm warm enough for now I need health. I need food Oh, he's gonna kill me excited my friend. It's been a pleasure Um, I hope that in this life, uh, you find nothing but joy I'm happy to say when I go out of this world. I won't blame you Hey, it's nice. We're all friends. Cool. Oh You see you found another bone Yeah, I found I can't so Okay, cool. Hey five of seven. We're doing better every time Yeah What do you think there's one by the exit? Oh, I'm dead Oh, I'm at the laboratory now. No, I he just he just spawned in by campfire over here. Yeah, did he? Yeah, so he does teleport then Yes splitting up Yeah, he bit me twice too Splitting up has its purpose But once we found a couple of bodies, we need to re get back together Take yeah, there we go ready So if we don't leave this campsite it won't start Yes, okay, let's just really take the map in and a plan of action Okay, got you so we got we third person do emotional support I don't know. I've got an idea. You two go and split up that way. I'll stay in camp I want to see if the host hanging in the camp doesn't make it night Ha ha ha imagine I'll go to the left uh up here. I'm just gonna start running now. Okay. I'm gonna go to the right I'm going right. I'm gonna go to the electric pylon It's still in the camp waiting for you guys to return because what we'll do is once you get back We'll jump over the camp and go north Gotcha Okay, well here we go. Go on take a picture of the bones. There we go. There we go Okay, should I come back now? I'll come back Okay I'ma come in I've put a fire. There's the roar. Yeah, there's the roar Uh excited. Are you coming back? Oh Four of seven. We got it boy. We're doing so good. We're doing so good Okay, we got this. We got this Still no sign of excited yet. Not even a torch. You know the monster Yeah, maybe he's confused Oh, yeah, I see you. I see your torch. Yep Is that the campfire or something? Yeah, no, no, this is this is the relay number one Okay I still have my my campfire Nice, so I might also have my campfire. Oh, he's behind him. He's freaking behind you excited See him. I'll take a hit. I'll take a hit. It's fine. There we go. Okay, right. Let's go this way Let's go back to uh vertical Right, so we've got four oh seven Yes, and just take a couple seconds at this campsite before we set off Yep to get the fire directly this way. I know the monster's over there, but he's still moving. So it is he's still sated for now Should we should we get moving now to the Let's go. Let's go.  I hear him Oh, well, that's good at least, you know, yeah, they bit me once I just realized that's his name. Yeah Right, so which way do we go from here? This way this way.  He's got it. He knows what he's doing I don't know what I'm doing. This is not my first row of your boys So what are we on? We're on five out of seven. Yeah, so it's two Two more As far as we got last time and it was a longer run last time We'll see true Are we near a cave? I don't know, but I feel like the cliff wall here is a given way that we might be Yeah, it could be could be a cave here I think no, this is not the cave. Oh, I know exactly what not. This is we're supposed we're about to go into where the Top left of the map right now Okay, okay, so we just keep following this round and we'll hit the cave soon No, no, we'll hit the radio tower Yeah, the cave is the other way I'm starting to doubt myself when it comes to Navigation because I feel like this is where the radio tower should be around and I don't see a radio tower anyway Needed to I We can keep going Yeah I think we just did a loop I think we did Yeah, I think we did. Oh, he's here. He's here I have a theory. I have a theory. I have a theory Yep, my theory was correct. What's that? Oh my god What was your theory? My theory was he was gonna try and attack me if I went into the corner But couldn't reach me and then he just came back for seconds Oh, did he hit you twice? Yeah, I don't know if he hit me for the first time, but he came back another time If you go to the right, we're at the base camp Yeah Which won't be good for finding any more items because I really need water. It is quite red We might lose this one even though we got Yeah, we were doing so good though He's got no water Beaver Beaver Where is he? Where is he? Right behind you Probably Yeah, I see him. I see him Don't get him Yeah, you got me. There you go. Nope. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. What do flares even do? I don't even know. Did they just light up? They just light the like a round surrounding area for a little bit Are we certain this isn't what is classed as the cave? I know it doesn't have a cave roof but I have no idea Maybe it could be I'm not seeing the monster so we are due on any second by the way Yeah, I know My internal body clock is getting used to it There he is. I'm only taking it. I'm taking it Oh, okay. There he goes I'm on 2 HP. He does 35 per hit I am also really cold. I'm not going to He's dead I feel like we're missing the north of the map Just supposed to be a cave and I was like I was I'm really good with directions and stuff like that, especially if I see a map and then it's just Fake Oh, he's coming You need to take that hit I can take that hit I'm dead You twice Oh, no, he didn't hit me the first time didn't hit me the first time It's it's the annoying thing is it starts so well and then it just it goes to hell within like two minutes Yeah It's a fun game, but There you go review You're gonna die. I'm cold excited I'm gonna die so let's go There he goes You have been haunted No Well done guys well done We did our very best. We did our best. No one ever did I want to win.  How about this though? Um, we all have a campfire Have a replay of the back rooms. Yay


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Fuel subsidy is gone, but what is the economic impact of its removal on wages? That will be one of the things we'll be looking at on the show. As a growing need to secure ourselves and properties become an issue, we will be looking at securing our home with technology. We also will be looking at what the headlines are on the press. Very good morning to you and thanks for joining us on the breakfast. My name is Nyam Gul Agadir. It's always so pleasant having you around and knowing that you are there for us as we are here for you. It's Plus TV Africa and it's a wonderful Tuesday morning. And every Tuesday we look a little bit at technology also. Our theme for the day is innovation. It's our biggest asset in the fight against subsidy. We always are concerned about how you get to work every day when we get to the studio ourselves and we're wondering how the traffic situation is for you. A lot of people were hoping or were thinking, rather not hoping, were thinking that with the situation on the ground, a lot of other people will stay back home. The cars on the road will be less and the traffic will not be that much. But if you know you're in Lagos, you have to think again because that nothing ever stops Legosians from going to the road and going about their normal businesses. And so sometimes you go and find out that the roads are clogged even with the fuel situation. You ask yourself, where have they been getting the fuel to be on the road all the time? But well, be that as it may, if you go to the last marked page, which is the body that monitors the traffic in Lagos state, you will find out that some places are really good to move. Now getting through on the mile 12 bridge inward, a gelo go in and out is good. Ascending and descending mile 12 bridge inward, Kosofe, down to Yano school is good. And return journey from Yano school inward, Kosofe, down to mile 12 is good. You also find out that ascending and descending mile 12 bridge inward or would be led down to Odeogung is good. On the way here this morning, I found out that from Bega, or you do Bega to down to a co-hotels, it was very, very free. And if you're traveling, if you moved at the same time that I moved, I'm sure that you had a one very, very beautiful ride. There was no traffic on the road, very unusual. Some people would say that it is expected. But yesterday the situation we find today was the same. And the traffic was not as good as today. Some people have said that because of this situation, when people get to the office on Monday, they choose not to go home until it's Friday and then they enter the road to go back as weekend. So maybe every other office should also think seriously about making it comfortable for the people who work there to sleep over if they cannot be going to and fro every day to work. So that when they close the work from duty as it were every day, they can always find a place to lay their head and wake up in the morning. So there should be a place to bathe. There should be a place to lie down. Maybe you provide some mattresses and all that. You provide some sprays so that the mosquitoes do not give them malaria while they're trying to run away from transportation, they begin to treat malaria. And every other thing that they might need to stay back at the office and work till Friday because the economy is really biting and anything that employers can do to make sure that employees are a little bit comfortable to do their work, please should be done by the employers of labour.  Anybody who does not show up for work, you fire the person no matter what it is. And you have not even increased what do they call it, salaries. And you're firing and hiring because you can't do that and a lot of people are looking for work. I've heard a lot of employers say that if you leave, there are a thousand others looking for your job.  It's not very good.  You have your challenges. You have an employee. He has his challenges. Whatever you can do, let it not be said. It is because of what you did wrongly that the person and his family are suffering. Well, if you go to the social media, you will see a lot of things today. One of the things that you will see is the fact that, or you go to the pages, it's not of the press yet, but it's good to know that some things are happening that may not be one of the topics that we're talking about today. We do know that we've seen on the national dailies that the NLC may have called off their strike. But the Nigerian Maritime Workers Union just began their own strike. They have shot down seaports nationwide because of that. So if the seaports have been shot down, it also means that the economy will be affected in a very, very negative way. Whatever their grievances may be, I hope that the relevant authorities are doing something. I've seen Joheshu and the other unions calling off their strike after meeting with the president. A lot of groups that have threatened to go on strike are meeting with the president and coming up with solutions that are making them to call off their strikes. I do hope that the Nigerian Maritime Workers Union will also call off their strike because they have had the opportunity to meet with the president. If the president doesn't do anything else, at least being proactive enough, to meet with the unions who are aggrieved is a very, very good sign of a listening ear. We do hope that this listening ear will translate to very, very positive actions on the part of the federal government. So Nigerian Maritime Workers Union begins strike, shuts down seaports nationwide, as we've already said. Then there is also very gladdening news. We do hope that whatever should be done to give legal backing to this next thing I'm going to say will be done as fast as possible. We have a Nigerian man who builds vehicles that are fearless. So right now, vehicles could be kekeh, could be bike, but whatever it is, vehicles that do not need to use fuel. Please, let's just see this trending video right now.  He's turning vehicles that is his fuel into vehicles that now operates only on electricity. Hi, my name is Tugia Makayze and I turn vehicles that use fuel into vehicles that use only electricity. And I believe this is the future. Believe you can make more than 20 billion around from this? Yes. And this is your idea? Yes. Tell me, how did this all begin? Well, it started from when I was still in the university as an undergraduate. I was studying the works of Tesla and the vast transition into electric mobility globally. And then in my final year in the university, we had this project where a group of, a team of engineering students, we came together under the tutelage of Professor Zeminani and then we built an electric vehicle from scratch then. So the... Which university? The University of Nigeria and so on. So the kind of attention we got then kind of exposed me more into the potentials that lie ahead. And then I started seeing opportunities where young people who drive vehicles commercially can actually save costs in operation by using electric vehicles because they cost much, much less to operate and then much, much less to maintain. So how far have you come with this project? So far we have successfully completed our kit. A kit that we can use to convert one vehicle that is powered by a fuel gasoline engine to one that is powered by a full battery electricity. How many of these vehicles do you have running in Enugustin at the moment? We currently have about five and we are working on our mini bus model already. Okay, do you have investors at the moment? Yes, we have a number of investors, people who believe in us from the very beginning. And with the way you are going, do you think you will be able to achieve the vision you have for this? Yes, very much. I work with a team of very visionary people who see the future of... But not just the renewable energy industry in the world, but the energy industry in Nigeria particularly and in the whole of Africa. We believe that this is a beginning of the transmission of Africa into a global economy. Well, this is really impressive. Can you show us how this works? This is one of our vehicles and then what you have here is the battery. The whole thing here is the battery and then underneath it is the engine. So then this is a test model. We could have our batteries under the seats of this vehicle. Can you put it on? Yes, one of the most obvious advantages of this is it has absolutely no noise and absolutely no emissions. It doesn't have any combustion system. Okay, well that debunks all the notions that Nigerian universities are not training people to be self-reliant. They're just going there to do theoretical parts of it. Whoever wants to succeed, whoever wants to progress, will progress in the Nigerian university system or education system. You take what you get from the university and you translate that into a workable model for you. This guy has done that. But my fear and the fear of a lot of Nigerians is whether he will be encouraged by our government and other investors or he will be shot down. Will he thrive or will fall into strife or rife? I'm talking about this because at one point, once upon a time, the National Assembly said nothing should be said in Nigeria about electric cars because we are people who produce fuel. Someone said that in the National Assembly, I don't want to call names, but if you were listening to the news about a year ago, you may have heard someone in the National Assembly rising up to give a notion that people should not even, the National Assembly should not even consider discussing electric cars because we as a country produce crude oil so we should not be thinking about electric cars. I don't know how that went for him. And right now we're in this jam because of fuel subsidy removal. Our economy depends so much on fuel. Now we have an opportunity. We heard this kind of a story before now how someone was converting mini buses in the North to buses that can run on electricity and all that. And we didn't hear anything about him anymore for a long time now. I think it's in Medugri that happened. Now we've seen this one in Enugu state. And he was asked whether there were investors that are coming in. I wonder the kind of investors that were coming in. Maybe there were small scale and all that. I'm looking forward to a time maybe they would partner with big brands like you know some Motors and any other car manufacturing brand that might spring up in Nigeria to produce this kind of things. So if it's in Enugu state you know some Motors is very close to him. So why can't there be some kind of collaboration so that we start producing our own electric cars here in Nigeria. The government should be proactive. So the new government that has come talked a lot about technology being a very integral part of our nationhood as it is. So I do hope that whoever is supposed to listen is listening now. Whoever is supposed to get this information has gotten it from the internet or from plus TV today that we played it. To look for this guy encourage talents like this so that technology will thrive in Nigeria. A lot of things that we depend on to get our livelihood we may not need them in the nearest future which should not be left behind. This is someone who has come up with something. So let's encourage him the best we can as a nation and as individuals. So congratulations to you my guy. University of Nigeria and Suka has produced something and someone really really lovable. So it's still the breakfast on plus TV Africa. We're going to take a very short break and when we return we'll continue to talk about some of these things and then also go to the newspapers to find out what is going on. Stay with us.