radar on this non-existent list but so i can now watch the dramatization completely fresh oh so yeah you don't know anything no i don't have a clue i'm jealous i'm actually jealous i was like i don't know who to believe in this and i'm loving it yeah um emma do you think it does the story justice because you know i think that kind of be if especially if it's one of your first shows that you watched or ever and you really love the staircase documentary and you know i think everyone has three or four films they recommend yeah you recommend documentaries in there so you can get a sense of ownership do you feel they're doing the story justice even though maybe some of the twists and turns are a little bit small for you no i think they do and definitely in terms of so in case anyone who doesn't know about it um it's based on the true story of kathleen peterson who was found dead at the bottom of the stairs in 2001 and her husband michael was accused of her murder he's always claimed that he's innocent he didn't do it um but this kind of really focuses like the documentary is very much about michael peterson it's based on like his trial they gave exclusive access all that stuff um whereas this kind of gives a bit of an insight into kathleen and what she was like like follows her a couple of months before her death so you get to see her interactions with the kids what she was like with michael um her business like her like personal side of things so i feel like it really opens up into her life which i think the documentary missed and most documentaries don't they are then they rarely focus on the victim it's almost whether or not you have sympathy for the alleged perpetrator yes exactly i suppose it's simply what they can have access to i mean if somebody has passed away and there's no film footage it limits maybe what they can do whereas in the dramatization they get someone in like tony collett who's fantastic yeah and she brings such life so they have the opportunity to do it she feels like a real person yeah yeah exactly and not just a name or a story mechanism or something yeah right so that's the first couple of episodes then we're starting to get into presumably the nitty gritties of the situation are you enjoying that element of it yeah i i've watched up as far as so i think this trial is justified to begin obviously i've seen the documentary so i know how the trial works out but it's interesting the way they've done this because there's three timelines as i say they follow it a couple of months before her death then they followed the whole trial and then there's a third timeline which if you've seen the documentary you'll kind of have an inkling of what that is it's that like 2017 2018 but if you don't know what happens then you're kind of you're watching it i'm i'm not gonna the only thing is it's like this one there's in the documentary there's kind of and i don't know what they're going to show in the drama but in the documentary and i think the the latest stage of it there's one pivotal moment yes with a live mic right yes that and i'm not saying who it's on or what it's about or whatever i just if they hang the whole series on that it's kind of feel like a massive spoiler the whole way through no but i feel i feel like they have done injustice in the sense that like i think it's quite hard because the documentary was so popular like there was at one point everyone was talking about it do you know i mean you couldn't like it was like a watercolor moment everyone was talking about it it was hard to escape it so i feel like it was a risk doing this dramatization and when i first heard about it i was skeptical i was like do we need this do we really need this and i've started neither i've started watching i'm like no it's actually it's a good thing i mean obviously like i said the fact that i know some of the twists and turns kind of ruins it a little bit because there's no element of surprise but like i think it's still enjoyable all right well now that it's a brilliant perspective from you Michael because you're watching it but you don't know the story yeah if i stay away from Emma i won't have it spoiled i was going to say i think one of the reasons for watching it even if you have seen the documentary this cast is amazing oh yeah like Tony Collette uh Colin Firth other like park i didn't know Parker Posey was in this i love Parker Posey she's brilliant always loved her and everything Tim Gunny is so so many great character actors uh Rosemary DeWitt the cast is amazing and they're bringing so much to every scene like even when it moves away from the main character Michael you're seeing top class talent bringing these other characters to life yeah so i feel like as a television dramatization it stands on its own but i think you're in the perfect position because i love something that's based on real life but you might know bits and parts bits and pieces with the story but it's such a treat for you because you get something with a clearly uh it's well written great cast you know it's real life so you can do a bit of research exactly what have you uh but yet things that happen you go right yeah and because it's true you're like crazy improbable things can happen like all the events happening on the day of 9 11 and you wouldn't as a fiction writer do that no but because it happened that way it's it's fresh and i finished i only watched the first episode and i watched it last night i went it was over i was like i don't know who to believe i don't know where this is gonna go it's gonna stay that way okay cool and um amma is it all available at once uh or are they releasing episodes weekend so it's weekly it's weekly on skyatlantic let me check it's Thursdays yeah okay and do we know how many series episodes yes eight episodes there's five right currently oh really okay so i'm planned to actually catch up over the weekend i'm not yeah i'm gonna make the effort do you know in fairness that's not like you michael no it's not like you so it must have the hope must be oh it's a very strong hook yeah i did enjoy it more than i expected to because i was like oh is this gonna be for the people who already know the story yeah but it's not clearly you're pleasantly surprised and to some extent those who don't know the story might enjoy a little bit more so someone who has not watched the documentary what would you give it out of ten so far first episode to me was a solid eight and i made an improve i was really hooked and i really thought it was good and amma cost those someone whose expectations might have been higher because they sort of knew the story in the documentary what are you giving it out i would i would still give in an eight i yeah yeah i would still so that's the case so uh well now i'm going to watch it like i am definitely gonna watch it i'm just gonna wait till it's all out um and then binge it and and you know i don't know what your memory is like amma but i am confident like we've already heard one reference from you that i didn't even remember at all so even though i claim to know stuff it's clear i don't well that's the thing i because i was quite intrigued my memory of it was a bit dodgy i couldn't remember all the bits of the documentary so i did do google and i read like an article of like a you know brief summary and then things came back to me then i was like oh i forgot that happened and oh i forgot that twist you could have watched the drama and let that unfold on the time well no i could have but then i was impatient so exactly and so much facade it's so hard to it's so hard to avoid doing that all right that is the staircase on sky atlantic i think the tv event uh of the week for many people out there was deri girls we want your views on deri girls i'll wait 60 25 000 or make your comments on social media what did you think of it did it live it to your expectations did it exceed your expectations um i know emma's 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log cabin company with quality cabins home offices hot tubs gazebos and located in bonnemy and bridge end this family friendly weekend features a range of offers discount prices and promotions cb for log cabins dot ie all right you're very welcome back to the program and we still have the company of michael eddy and emma costell right so dairy girls before we talk about sort of the program itself what i thought was really interesting the commentary coming from britain in particular about how this this program presented and helped people understand the good friday agreement than all of their years in schools in britain that they go oh that's what it was about that's what it was for that's now we don't want to get bogged down in the in the politics of it so if you want to comment on that that's fine emma but generally speaking did it exceed match oh more than exceeded but just on that point i have friends in england who texted me after the show and they were like that's the most i've ever learned about the good friday agreement excuse me they don't learn about that in their schools which i think is horrible considering you know everything like the links between our countries the fact that they don't know about it is horrific and the fact that they have to like rely on a sitcom to get that history to get the information it's shocking but you know what sometimes that's what it takes emma why was derry girls so successful why did you love it so much i presume i think you did you wrote it on the list you're not gonna come on highland right after the first time and say you know what these are all round derry girls was rubbish i think it's down to the writing i think lisa meaghey has done an amazing job i think whatever accolade we can give her she should get it like the fact that she can balance comedy and heartfelt moments so well so beautifully so flawlessly like it's just incredible the cast is amazing the comedy like you know i've the fact that i've grown up in the border i can see so many of like my family members and people in my local area in these characters you know like uncle column for example we all have that relative where you see their name on the phone you're like no i'm on no i did that yesterday like it's your turn to answer the phone do you know what i mean like it's just it's our life it's our life on screen and i feel like we don't get to see that very often you know but good comedy good writing means that you can write and i think we discussed this before michael you can write about what you know and what's relevant and specific to an area but if you do it right it's universal it's universal exactly agreed yeah of course absolutely and i think it has traveled very well hasn't it it's it's incredible like i think that the fact that um netflix picked it up has massively helped them as well you know rich is a whole new audience yeah so it's the characters and it is the writing you talked about um you talked about how the characters are relatable because of of where you're upbringing as well but in terms of the the subject matter i wouldn't ask nor presume your aim age am i but i'm 23 a lot of the stuff a lot of the stuff i'm not recognizing i'm gonna cry now no a lot of stuff that uh it's it's based in a certain time okay then naturally it's before your time yeah did you find that element of interesting the time it was staged in because i think there's another generation that lived through the stuff that they're talking about and they go right you got that spot on do you get where i'm coming from no i do um there's one line that the character grande joe says to erin at one point because she's bringing up her like concerns about the agreement she doesn't know if she's gonna vote yes and she says what if we vote yes and it doesn't work and he says to her well what if it does what if the killing stops what if it becomes a ghost story that you'll tell your kids one day and that line really hit me because i was like oh my god that's what it is to me it's a ghost story you know what just that i haven't watched any of it yet and i will i'm not one of those that says i'll i've never watched that and be kind of uh that scene was amazingly shot and framed it was it was really really it fitted the dialogue yeah the way it was shot no it's just like that line really really hit me because my mom's from dairy um the majority of my family's from northern Ireland so you know i've heard so many stories growing up about the troubles and like i'll see archive footage i'll study it in school and it doesn't feel real like i can't sometimes i can't comprehend that that stuff happened half an hour away from where i live like it's just it's astounding and so to see it on screen to see it be dramatized in the way that dairy girls has done it it's just i think it's so so important how rare is it michael for something to be so seemingly university university love that from the beginning to the end of its run uh you know what i find interesting is even its biggest fans i don't see a massive clamor for it to continue you know what i mean there's an acceptance of the story no it's just like i fully agree no yeah and that that's i'm not saying it's unique nothing's unique but that's very special it is very special and you're right about the way it started i remember the night it started because i was in rehearsals for the play i was doing and there was several people were on about getting home early because there was this show starting that they'd heard was going to be good there was a level of expectation before the first episode aired and i well remember people saying you know as the weeks went by it's better and better it's getting better and better so it hit the ground running it was received with open arms from the start and so many people it's one of those shows it's like it's like the way people always talk about yellow stone you remember they used to talk about messaging about it i know so many people that talk about dairy girls and i i don't think i've ever met anyone who said oh i don't like it yeah and it started off with oh they've named a place that we know yeah no the first episode mentions boncrant i'm like that's where i'm going to do my driving test in a couple of weeks like it's not yeah then it went it went before beyond that then the sort of that novelty of the name checks went and then it was like right well that's what it was like for me that's exactly what it was like that's what my family's like yeah it's a real testimony to the writing you pointed out normal people had a sort of a marmite thing there were people who loved it and there were people who didn't love it but everyone was talking about it yeah so it this is different you know that's what i'm saying it's like everybody was talking about normal people everybody watched it but sometimes people were like that's i you know but dairy girls it's like the people who don't like it i've not met them so it is it hit that same level of pop culture um omnipresence but it didn't have anyone that was like i don't buy this is it the best show of that genre you've watched ever i'd say it's up there i would say yeah definitely i mean i think it's going to be one of those comedies that will be around for a long long time like i've already rewatched season one and season two countless times every time there's something like if there's a quiet night on tv my mom will say come here put dairy girls on it's your go to you know i mean like it's my go to yeah it's a comfort show and i think you can kind of do that more with comedy than you can other kind of shows as well because you can you can background it as well and still enjoy it if if that's your mood all right me and you uh michael at some point are going to have to jump on the bandwagon we are yeah i'm a cold that you haven't done already whatever a little respect emma had for me i could see it going in her eyes do you know i think there's sort of a psychology to it perhaps to emma i think if you don't if you don't watch it straight away do you know the first episode goes and there's a huge everything it's brilliant and then the second right and you feel like you're behind the car it gets longer and longer and then everyone thinks it's so great that you go oh god you know i don't want to do it if it's that great yeah and then it's like i want to be different i want to be the person that doesn't watch it well that mentality that's kind of more of the the lord of the ring stuff but i get exactly what you're saying but no it's just then you wait till it dies down and then you stick it on and yeah later dumps love hate was a bit like that you know lots of people kept saying you have to watch love hate the fact and then you just watch it in your own yeah that's going to happen with me and derriere and something eventually like i'm not no i will like this summer at some point we were saying there's like 18 episodes now that's a nice run it's very short could be something i could watch i think it's cool to say you never watched the sopranos i'm not sure it's cool to say you never watched derriere girls especially where we live yeah well you're hitting me you know how important it is to me to be cool greg so you're right that's that's push me over the edge i was just literally uh like the carrot and the stick absolutely of course you're constantly trying to get close to the stick yet you haven't worked out why it keeps getting it doesn't get any closer people i go twice as fast strange yes every time you speed up the character what's that about further away right okay so that's derriere girls need i ask uh presume it's full marks it's perfect is it perfect no doubt no doubt uh margaret higgins derriere girls absolutely fantastic on uh on facebook as well and so say lots of people right here um okay we're going to be talking about we're going to get a look forward to the weather for you by the way before the 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others can too so join me john brezlin live this friday from 12 on around the northwest at aamon harkin charapetist lower main street litter kenny okay you're very welcome back to the program so the big stars and the big acts and the big shows keep coming to the northwest uh oliver callan brings callan kicks callans kicks live to on green on letter kenny on the 28th of may the tickets are on sale but i have a strong feeling you're going to have to get in really really quick if you don't know miss oliver good morning to you thanks for joining us good morning to you greg how is the form the form is the crack is mighty in the form is good uh listen it's great to have you on the show it's great to have you up in the northwest it's been a while it has i mean this was supposed to be first tour in five years it's now become seven years for reasons uh we won't revisit as everyone knows and actually part of the reason for doing these kind of chats with radio stations around the country is also to remind people who bought tickets way way back in christmas 2019 uh to get them out of the drawer and show up to the show on saturday week in letter kenny yeah um i i've said this before on this program so i'm not blowing smoke so to speak uh but i think some of the uh some of the best political analysis uh in this country and how politics work and maybe you know how some of the pr works comes from your program and not necessarily the nighttime shows that we see on on on tv is that something that you you go out of your way to do to achieve is that something with your uh particularly your radio show that you're proud of i mean yeah that's that's kind of the goal you know i trained as a journalist i was a journalist earlier in my career and i always say now basically i'm doing still doing journalism just through the medium of comedy well i kind of see uh what i do it is like revising people it's like revision lessons for scandal to know your your your kind of constantly remind people of you know this thing happened because we can't keep too too much stuff in our heads about politics and we forget who shafted who and and why they shafted them and why that scandal happened and what was the result of it and so that's kind of what we do i mean i was even noticing there was a site serve inquiry that's finished that has just been issuing its draft report and that started 10 years ago and it's all about you know a right off of a hundred and something million you know the figures make no sense when they go away well if you think that's bad wait till you hear the uh wait till you hear about the investigation into into planning in into planning in donnie gall i mean well donnie gall is no stranger to scandal i was going to say like the cost of the of this inquiry is like way beyond what the initial loss of the taxpayer was you're going to go which is the bigger scandal and the fact that the inquiry was held in secret and there's now just reporting stuff we already knew 10 years ago and this is the solution to scandals that we have so and as you'll discover up in in donnie gall i mean a lot of people in dublin i i think probably assume all that mica thing must be well over by now because you know there was a hubbub a couple of months ago and everybody in politics said they're all the right things and and everyone just parks it then and it doesn't become a national story for a while and everyone just assumes it's over a bit like the housing crisis which is just perfectly normal now i was confined to cities and now is literally in every county i'm from monaghan and i know people i know people my age with their with their kids are worried about well you know that's that's that's the prospects of them owning a home gone and it just becomes so normal isn't it so trying to find comedy in that is is the important thing and comedy is doing very well since the covid restrictions ended and people are coming out more and more to see comedy shows and it is reminiscent of the crash time when people raced out pretty much the only thing that we're spending money on at the time is coming out to comedy shows to which is good because there's never a guarantee on that because people's you know people can change in the behavior just it before we talk about what's coming up in the show just in relation to you know what people would be familiar with your tv work of course and the radio show and we talked about you know your your commentary and what is going on and what has going on is there a balance of importance to you between you know the quality of the impersonation versus the sort of content of the script i mean totally i almost write off the idea of doing the voice in the first place that's kind of the easy job and then you have to get them to say something as well i mean i always try to for the fun sometimes not everything i do is entirely you know comes with a very important political point i mean there's marty maricy there's no deep dark satire to be but i think with marty maricy is like i don't know who i know do i know marty maricy or i do do i know callans uh i'll have a callans marty maricy do you know it's like i don't know which one is one are they one and the same is one real is which one is real i don't know i always found marty the hardest voice to do because i was listening to him going there's a character i really should do and i would give us a bit of light to all the darkness of of political satire and i just heard him one day on the radio and he just happened to say claire because i know that marty was kind of he grew up in in um new jersey and he was about seven or possibly even as late as 11 by the time he came to claire and he went to college in cork so there's kind of a little american twang in among the claire i mean he'd say where it's like anywhere which is pure claire but he'll say claire and of course he's just talking that very american sort of style i love speaking and there's a sort of a little bit of a smirk in his face it makes him look like he's a ladies man i'm just like no one's ever suggested that marty maricy has gone around the country because when he spoke to him he had to point out that he doesn't drink uh he doesn't really party too much like that's what is going on is his national tour telling people but then i think he's planning uh marty's parties around the country yeah no absolutely marty i'm marty and i liked party was a catchphrase that i thought was too dumb for television and the director james cotter and when i was you know when you dress up in these characters sometimes you come up with a whole new script that you weren't planning because you're walking around the set of a tv show dressed as marty marcy and i just said i'm marty and i like to party and i just thought it was too dumb and the director insisted no he'd do it and that just became the catchphrase and i never thought it was really catching on until when that series went out which was 2014 yeah i was doing my shopping as you tend to do in entertainment at 10 o'clock at night and at dons and dumb them and two people i didn't even see them first all i heard was just someone roaring at me i'm marty and i like to party it's funny too though how it influences a couple of recent examples like when uh denis waterman passed away recently everyone was going on about uh he likes to sing the theme tune he likes to write the theme tune you know what i mean this was i believe that was mostly from little britain i think was it denis norman uh he had that catchphrase and why not never said it in his life but because of the that those doing the impressions which is where this is the answer the long way of answering your earlier question which is you know the impression versus script is that you kind of have to sneak in these things because like when you're doing me hall martin you're you're you're portraying a real person but in a fictional way you know i have to make i have to create this character of what they might sound like behind closed doors you know when fradka and me hall are speaking to each other and you you kind of draw from you know me hall sounds like a very kind of prudent and very pedantic sort of a man and i throw in this sort of thing because he speaks a little bit fast when he gets a little cock see i throw in the thing which he never does which is going forward in terms of because he says in terms of quite a bit but i've kind of you know inserted in part of his he sounds like he's kind of diggling a little bit and was also that that that thing they said about me great that i would make a decision when i was minister of commissioning reports into reports and and discerning and being very very cautious whereas of course leo is very easy to do uh because his public and private are quite pronounced because i don't mind saying problematic things about the homeless this outland of public anyway uh so i'm just you know i'm a totem baseball's ledge bag and i'm glad that brexit on the northern island protocol is back because that was the only thing that made me look and sound confident is when i'm compared to barris johnson who looks like a badly trimmed muck mop poking poking out of the a pile of nylon suits left on the floor of a charity shop by the way i'm looking forward to going to dunny gall's been my favorite part of slag out for years we still have people up there i think we do i know he's gone he's leaving yeah yeah that makes sense okay but again they're pulling out of dunny gall just just want to announce that on the radio okay come here the difference between the content of you that's pretty by the way oliver the difference between the content of the original ticket holders versus now is huge and yeah i suppose you've got people like luconeal that will be featuring uh who's become sort of a staple that might not have been in the original show perhaps luconeal is you see like when he talks about you know he's very happy and everything's very positive you see and he throws in the stuff like you see and we're going gangbusters now at the vaccines you see oil and radio up in dunny gall yeah of course there was a bit of vaccine going out there but we're kind of by county bases we're very excited and he goes really excited sometimes when he's talking about things and i'm doing the book which i can't even say it on the radio because it involves a swear word you see but uh i even forgot what i was talking about at the beginning but i am here available to do every show till the end of time forever and ever and ever brilliant stuff and i have to say too i think some of the your content in callon's cakes was as it relates to the press conferences uh from nefit and how they were run and you know we had no access you know obviously it was only a small group of people and and how journalists interacted with them and i know it was satire but like all good satire you know it was hitting a couple of home runs too uh what was what was the blowback like that in small Dublin you're bumping into these people all the time well that's what's a good thing about the the the upside to lockdown if there was any uh was that you didn't really bump into anyone when you're going around there was which actually made it quite difficult to do comedy and i had some bit of sympathy for politicians because obviously the only way anyone knows anything that's happening in politics is when they are like out and about and some of them do i remember a td telling me once that to gauge the the feelings on the ground they would often just push an empty shopping trolley around the local supermarket for about an hour pretending to shop and then just leave it there and walk out again because people would obviously come up and talk about what's what's annoying them and so on so they missed all of that and as a result we missed out on all the gossip that's happening within politicians and um we've returned to this kind of you know this strange gulf but um yeah it's kind of it's an odd it's a very odd political world we're still in and um you know we're blessed with people like Paddy Cullivan who you work with of course and yourself who deliver uh you know uh really important information i think sometimes but through the means of comedy and do it in such a great way and uh people are going to meet all uh the favorites uh mary lou's there michael d higgins always a brilliant interviewer your birdie her and fantastic as well darmit bannon's a great character i'd imagine and it's all intertwined through a through uh through the show through restoring it all makes sense so people are going to have a a great night pierce to hearty is he going to make an appearance because well well we we do think on actions but uh yeah absolutely you know i think it's very pertinent and dunigal that uh you get the kind of hard clipped accent and because he says things like that i'll appreciate that people don't understand comes totally from dunigal irish which is only for us only for us okay and by the way it's the um madame president here in fame wonderful to be on the show love the purple background and everything and shin fame are preparing for government not me obviously because you know i'm too busy on tiktok doing the macarena but we have the nerdy dirties like pierce and oh no brain doing health housing and the other people deleting our internet history all the important things in shin fame we're taking over but more importantly greg britney is finally free all right chucking our pensions right oliver callan oliver callan callan's kicks live in on green on uh letter kenny saturday 28th you stand in for ryan and an rt1 is that just enough for you in terms of the real uh serious stuff i know he shows not particularly serious as such uh oliver or you know do you like having the foot in both camps uh do you feel the journalists journalism strings pulling at you what's the story i think i i'm a really good fit for the show i like the show i'm a fan of it anyway and um i think i'm a good fit because i like the variety is a spice of life and uh i obviously will concentrate on what i do best which i think is is the comedy and the voices but it's nice to dip your toe in there and it's quite like it's what you guys do is very tough day in day out i like doing it a week on week here there and i'm kind of relieved at the end of it going wow that's kind of exhausting because it is like as one of the producers in there call it like a gigantic whatsapp group because you have this responsibility with listeners and holding in their hands through difficult mornings especially when you're sandwiched between current affairs shows on either side of you because people are recovering from one belt of bad news and you're trying to hold their hand on their way to what's coming and i think comedy is like that the comedy show is you know coming out to learn and process things about the world but you're going home with a bit of hope you know like comedy is all about look at us all here together we're able to process this and things are going to ultimately be fine because we're able to laugh at most things in the world okay all of us and keep up the great work thanks so much for joining us i appreciate your time all right take care of yourself thank you very much indeed all of our callan there callan kicks live on green on letter kenny saturday the 28th of may tickets are on sale i believe he was due to be there before those tickets are still valid all right more from emma and more from michael after the break and we'll have a look at the week's weather for you too the night on noon show is brought to you by letter kenny credit union with monster loans available up to 60 000 euro for all occasions visit letter kennycu.ie at cherrymore kitchens and bedrooms we are now operating out of one new state of the art showroom in dunning all town and we invite you to visit our new 5000 square 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new york every friday this summer with ryan air and enjoy some of europe's best beaches ireland west airport you're flying okay well let's get the detailed weather forecast from alan old riley the founder of carloweather alan a good morning to you thanks for joining us again morning greg how are you i am doing good i'm doing good right i didn't mind this week i don't mind a bit of rain as long as the sunshine in between the showers and as long as it's kind of warm uh if that's my expectations are they going to be met for the next wee while well the good news is there's some sunny spells arriving on the southwest coast of dunny gall now just coming in off the atlantic so that wet morning is going to improve some good sunny spells for a later this afternoon and this evening and showers dying out but you could still catch one or two the weekend though unfortunately it's it's not going to be too sunny there's going to be a lot of crowd cloud around for the weekend the winds will ease back a little bit but still breezy temperature's not too bad probably 16 maybe 17 degrees of a high and there will be some sunny spells but you're going to want to keep that brawley or the raincoat close by because there is going to be showers this weekend both saturday and sunday all right what does next week hold for us as much as we can determine alan at this stage yeah unfortunately the big thing is it's going to feel cooler it's going to drop back temperatures won't probably get above 13 or 14 degrees in dunny gall so it's going to feel a quite a bit cooler for the areas next week and it's going to be showery it's going to be sunny spells and it's going to be showers so a lot of farmers at the moment looking to cut some silage it's going to be hard to find a two or three day window that's going to be dry unfortunately so a continuation the only thing is the weather models the latest ones have given a little hint that high pressure might just try and build towards the end of the coming week into next weekend it's a bit far out yet and it's going to build from the south so you know the northwest it's going to be maybe just on the border but a little bit of a good Friday feeling from the weather models we might start seeing improvement get in here's hoping you know we'd like to see a lot of people maybe you know low 20s you don't have to go too far to where the temperatures are in the 40s way too hot for me that's what they're seeing in parts of Spain at the moment yeah and increasingly temperatures are going above 39 degrees yesterday and they're expected to go above 40 up to 42 degrees in parts of Andalusia in Spain and very unusual to get that kind of 40 degrees temperatures in May some records from May and that intense heat is also coming up into south of France so if you are heading away then you do you do want to prepare for some very warm days now it will start to ease off into the next week but also a lot of Saharan dust being blown up in the skies as well so those yellow skies so yeah I I'm like you I'd much rather low 20s than 40s for sure yeah now if people want to track you uh website social media where's the best place to keep in tops with you Alan yeah Instagram Twitter and Facebook I'm always updating there just search Carlo whether and you'll find my posts thanks so much enjoy the rest of the day enjoy your weekend thanks so much thanks Greg okay thank you bang up to date there with the weather forecast not just for today but into next week right uh okay sorry about all that conversation ever you know it's a busy show it sure is very busy uh can we add to the axe yeah uh stranger things back on Netflix I watched the first two series of this kind of zoned after that did I make a mistake I think you did um I'm currently rewatching it so for people you don't know the fourth series is about to drop next Friday and they're doing quite a unique thing on Netflix they've done it with a couple of other shows but they haven't done this with stranger things before they're dropping it in two volumes so the first volume is going to be dropped next Friday and then the second volume is going to be released on the first of July do we know if that's a strategy or is it production because of I think it's a I think it's a mix of things I think probably to keep the hype going and then also they were massively delayed because of COVID and they've also said that this season is almost twice the length of any other season so the episodes are going to be like each episode is going to be like a film you know an hour and a half long so obviously that's going to take up quite a lot of people's time so they're probably making it easier for the audience to drop it in two halves excited about it very excited is this the last series do we know uh second last so the fifth series will be its last one right okay and good story progression it switches it up a bit why sticking with um well it's quite a hard show to summer so I'm not even going to bother to attempt it but if you like thrillers if you like sci-fi I'm personally I'm not a big sci-fi person but this show I make an exception for like it's the characters everything's brilliant the music the 80s music is honoring so yeah yeah I wouldn't know 80s music of course you wouldn't it'll be nice it'll be nice to get an introduction to that genre why are you looking at me when you talk about the 1980s Greg you're looking directly at me very to back me up to say you're right of course how would you know about the 80s I wouldn't know about the 80s either I actually really don't by the way I'm just 23 also so I just I feel like that's of course don't ask your age come here uh did you ever get into this I did not like the first series I'm sorry okay I think I'm in the same boat with my friend didn't like it I just thought uh some of the the horror elements and some of the stuff that was I was very contrived I remember a scene where there was the girl climbing into evident danger going through a tree I watched that episode the other night I was like don't do that that's the really stupid thing to do and I never really recovered I thought the cast were very good but I was like I finished season one and I was like that's it okay fair enough but you know what sometimes I think it's it's the bravest thing to do uh obviously relatively speaking is to just pull the pin and something you're not enjoying yeah and there's no point in watching something you don't like I gave it a whirl and I think you did a full series yeah I think you give it a fair crack yeah that's a fair shot so even I couldn't see why people loved it I could see why it was working from a lot of people the performance was very good the kids are great the nostalgia element and the fact that it's doing homage is to so many 80s movies so I can see why it's working and the way it's shot you can see the similarities yeah why it's a success I just find some of the characters a wee bit annoying as well oh okay that's it they might find you annoying too Greg you don't know who knows maybe they're on a radio station somewhere in America saying the same thing Star Trek Prodigy on Children's Channel Nickelodeon yeah Nickelodeon show um it's a Star Trek show is it still a Children's Channel it is yeah yeah um this is a half hour animated Star Trek series it's brand new they've been showing it for a while but they're looping back to episode one on Monday I've been watching this show um the fact that it's a kids show it doesn't matter like one of the reviews I was reading through about it here um from somebody called Alex Madey um Prodigy is a rip roaring adventure that will keep adults engaged and make kids think yeah kids shows which are evidently that yeah and then there is the majority of shows that are they'll work for both old they'll work yeah exactly for it yeah exactly so this can be an entry level show for a kid or a teenager who's never seen Star Trek and doesn't know about it but if you've grown up with Star Trek like many of us have then you'll enjoy this as well it's a computer animation it's not 2D animation like Star Trek Lower Decks which is done like Family Guy or Simpsons this is done like the Ice Age movies you know it's computer animation yeah and it's a serial and it's basically about a group of youngsters who are on a sort of a prison world and they managed to find a Federation Starship and they they hijack it and they escape they're all a group of kids different races they're coming together which is very much the ethos of ethos of Star Trek and for me as a huge fan of Star Trek Voyager one of the coolest things about this show is that there's a hologram of Captain Catherine Janeway and Kate Mulgrew has returned so she's doing the voice of her character do you just sometimes you watch it as a Star Trek fan do you watch this and go oh this is we've waited on animation they could have used this storyline for live live action yeah I've taught that not so much about prodigy because I'm only three episodes into it but the half-hour comedy show Star Trek Lower Decks which is so really good sometimes I've often thought why can't we have a live action episode where this happens because this is like there'll be a creature overrunning the entire ship and you're like this would work as a drama so I do yeah sometimes think that right I don't know if you're familiar with Finula's granny but Finula's granny is what she will and will not watch shows with yeah uh conversation with friends we don't have an awful lot of time on this yeah I think this is not a granny one have we seen it yet it's naughty then is that it's it's just bad I mean the well the episodes I've seen haven't been well the second one was a bit so I might have you have to be careful now because people got all what actually is her bar yeah I think I mean if you've seen normal people then I'd say it's generally along the same lines personally I'm not a fan of this right um yeah I'm not a fan of it I love this is what you have to do put stuff on the list that you don't like go ahead and take notes take notes Michael you see the thing is I loved normal people love the book and I kind of assumed they're obviously going to make an adaptation of Sally Renee's first book and that's exactly what they've done I haven't read the book so I don't know where it's going to go personally I'm not going to find out I'm not going to finish it up on it yeah I just here's the thing it's beautiful it's shot beautifully it's just very slow the characters are not likeable okay and there's one of the characters Nick played by Joe Alwyn who happens to be Taylor Swift's boyfriend which is mentioned in every single that he does um he's English and his accent terrible is not good okay listen theme choose Dallas people love Dallas flying doctors uh country file uh the full guy see we're in a genre here the persuaders yes love the that hasn't the prairie friends which is iconic night rider you love the office you say pretty little liars the fresh prince Bella I don't know oh no I would say that's quite iconic safe it is but I don't like it safe by the belt hill straight blues airwolf brilliant shows well MacGyver um and which ones I haven't mentioned uh we are going to go with uh where is it here which who's going to win the goodie bag um let me see here only for some horses um oh that's quite nice I'm not going to go with that I'm going to go with Cagney and Lacey oh yeah okay I don't know who sent it in but I'm just picking it as random so we're going to get a goodie bag out to that person Emma listen thank you so much brilliant you have to come back it's been great I would love to um that's fantastic Emma thank you Emma castlow Emma talks tv working people check you out because you clearly love what you talk about uh that's my website Emma talks tv dot com and I'm also on Twitter but the same handle pretty well done actually I don't want to sound patronizing because you're younger than me but you know is she I don't think she mentioned that only four or five just one writer and blogger I'm not even gonna let you mention where people can see your scheduled posts um excellent you're back with us Friday Emma you'll be back with us again I'm sure and we'll be back on Monday stay tuned John Bresson is coming up around the northwest live from Eamon Harkinshropadist he's got a spring in his step John today in Letterkenny Harkinshropadist are celebrating 50 years in business what a brilliant achievement all right have a great uh day have a great weekend the 9 till noon show with Letterkenny Credit Union now offering


Good evening, it's great to have your company at McDonald Jones Stadium in Newcastle as the Jets take on Western Sydney Wanderers in round eight of the Hyundai A-League. Left it on the head of Duke, Kateroski. Just thumps it forward straight into the path of Petratos. Here is Jason Hoffman again and Lopar made himself big, he had to because Hoffman was hunting another one at home. Credit the goalkeeper. Hoffman on his left foot. That's a great goal kick. Back from injury last week. He set up the opening goal, here he is delivering again. We may set up the opening goal tonight. It was close for Mitch Duke. And it's the first action we've seen come out and it's a really good one. Fine. Now between the lines, now to Charles, neat link up with Hoffman. Here is Nick Fitzgerald, he is onside. Well saved by Lopar again. Two huge saves from the Wanderers custodian. He's so confident when he comes off his line. Well he learned from Hoffman's initial strike and gave it a little bit of air. In the end, nothing doing. And now Arroyo, he's in on goal. Can they make this one count? Well he decides against shooting. Now Petratos spinning Arroyo on the angle. Well saved again. Petratos, brilliant defence from Western Sydney. Scrambling defence. And great goalkeeping again from Lopar. Great run from Jason Hoffman. Found the space. Now Fitzgerald goes from distance and Lopar again. Leaping through the air, Daniel Lopar. He's an almighty dive. Now Daniel Giorgeski. He loves pushing forward. He has the run of Muller, also Duke. Hopes to use the man with the fluoro boots. And it was a shot worthy of them. What a strike. Just gives them some violence from 25 metres in there. It's their own fault, Kanderoski. Giorgeski. He has opened pastures ahead of him. He uses Muller. He returns the favour to Dordje Giorgeski and Duke. And here is the save from Glenn Moss. Falls back from it, Duke. And on that occasion it was the Newcastle goalkeeper who had to stand tall. And Mitch Duke misses the last one. Blazes it over the bar, but they worked it so well. Mitch Duke, you've got to say that is even better second one. And Duke goes for power. Had to take it quickly. It's Muller. That's the width of Yugarkovic. Hopes to take it on himself. Matt Muller to the back post. The header back, Fitzgerald. The turn! The same period of the match. And they were down to ten men. Now Angus Thurgin, he looks to be onside. He has Jimmy Petratos arriving alongside him and Petratos and sails the points for the Newcastle Jets. And the referee's assistant doesn't put up his flag so he thinks it's good to use a long way. And they just switched off. Weston Sydney court really square. Helped, of course, by Thurgate. As he sizes up the shot. Firing from everywhere, Newcastle. Back-to-back wins for the Jets. And Newcastle win for the fourth consecutive time against Weston Sydney Wanderers.


than am I crossing you in style. Some new heartbreak, wherever you're to dream, off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. I'd say the man, my soul, the most I bargained. Then I discovered you. And in your eyes, I found that sunset. And forever, who doesn't Mrs. Reagan have a beautiful voice? We'll go sway on the dawn. Join me in singing for us. Just like the sleigh bells in the snow. Would you like to go on the road, Mrs. Bihua? I know I speak for everyone when I say we thank Andy Williams for coming here and entertaining tonight. Andy was an Iowa boy who wound up playing golf in California. In between, he carried a tune or two. No, he had a spectacular singing career with all the things that go with it. Hit records, a top TV show, everything that was great in that line. And Andy, I know that yesterday you had a birthday. And I'm thrilled to be in the company of people who are still having birthdays. But I think I say for everyone here, you know it day late, happy birthday. But also, thank you very much and thank all these wonderful people here for the entertainment you brought us. I enjoyed it very much. I really did. Well, we loved having you here. No, it was all right. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. That means to be one of my favorite songs.


Hi, I'm James. And I'm Anthony. And this is Words and Numbers. Today we're talking about a recent US News and World Report article that we wrote which took a look at the CBO and its propensity both to underestimate and overestimate certain things so that Congress can legislate financial concerns in the United States. We should jump in here and say CBO stands for Congressional Budget Office. These are the guys who officially come up with projections of what's going to happen to the government's tax revenues and expenses in the future. Right. And seeing as how we're explaining the CBO further, we should also say that the CBO is theoretically a nonpartisan group filled with experts in the matter, right? These are economists. They're not political hacks. So their charge is to make these projections about the federal budget. So when you hear some politicians saying something like, well, you know, the federal debt is going to be, you know, X trillion dollars 10 years from now, those numbers he's quoting are coming from the CBO. Yeah, that's right. And the CBO turns out just like just about every other government entity you can point to is woefully inaccurate when it comes to its forecasting. Woefully inaccurate. It is. To give the CBO its doom, what's going on here is by law, this Congressional Budget Office is required to assume that Congress will make no major changes in policy, taxation, spending going out into the future. So it's kind of reasonable if you think about it because really there's no way to project what Congress or the president are going to do five, 10 years in the future. So CBO just says, let's assume that the government keeps doing into the future what is doing now. And now tell me, what do you think the budget's going to be 10 years from now? Yeah, and it turns out if these are highly trained professionals who are in fact competent to do this sort of thing, that proviso renders it impossible for them. And if you want some proof, you just have to take a look because really we're only concerned with a couple of things that they do. They project on the one hand, government revenues. So how much the government will take in in the form of taxation and other fees and what have you. And then on the other hand, they project what the debt will be given what we're trying to accomplish. And over time, if you take a look at the data, they over predict revenues by 25%. On average, they're saying that revenues are going to be 25% more than they actually are. Yeah, which is just crazy. I mean, that's a math error of epic proportion. But it pales in comparison to how bad the CBO is in forecasting future debt. Because 10 years out, year after year after year, the CBO is 250% behind the curve predicting debt. Yeah.  So they make projections throughout the year, but let's look at the January projections that they make. Since over the past, whatever it is, 20, 25 years, CBO has made about 170 projections of what the government's debt is going to be 10 years from now. Of those 170 projections, 170 of them under-projected the federal debt. And they under-projected it by a gargantuan sum. So right now, for example, the CBO came out with their latest projection, what, a couple of weeks ago, I guess at the end of January? Yeah, that's right. And in that projection, they said by 2027, 10 years from now, the federal debt will be $30 trillion. And you look at that number, you say, oh my God, that's huge, right? Right now it's $20 trillion, which is big enough, but they're projecting $30 trillion. But here's the question, Ann. If they're wrong by the traditional margin, what will that actually be in 10 years?  What's it really going to be? Yeah, that's the kicker. If you look back at their past projections, on average, the actual debt has been about 2.5 times what CBO projects. So if CBO is off by the same amount that it has been in the past, we're actually looking by 2027 at a federal debt of about $75 trillion. You end up with a story that looks like the following. By 2027, the federal debt is $75 trillion, and fully one-half, 50% of the government's tax revenue is going to have to go to paying the interest on that debt. But wait, there's more. That only stands if interest rates don't go up. Right, right. We're looking at something that's going to be truly catastrophic in 10 years. Yeah, yeah. Interest rates are at the lowest point they have been in the history of the country. When interest rates rise, and they will rise eventually, the question isn't if but when. We could be looking at a situation where by 2027, three-quarters of the federal tax revenue is going to pay the interest on the debt. If we're spending 75 cents on every dollar that the government takes in simply to service a gargantuan debt, that will leave exactly no money to take care of everything else. So one of the things that people are going to ask James is, what's the government practically speaking, what's it going to do? My opinion is that the government will do what governments always do under these circumstances. They'll inflate the money supply, they'll monetize the debt, and we will live with crippling inflation which will devalue everybody's money simultaneously. What if the government does something like it turns to China and says, look, we owe you a trillion dollars, let's renegotiate, let's make it half a trillion? The Chinese will tell them to go pound sand. Well, that's what creditors say. There's no deal here. So this is the good news? It's as good as the news is going to get absent anything approaching fiscal responsibility. I mean, we've said this before and I think it bears repeating. The first question that our government typically asks is what do we want? And then they go about spending money to make that happen. The first question government should ask is what can we afford? And then the government should operate within the parameters that are defined by the world of the possible. And this is something that politicians just simply hate. Well, I think that's all we have time for. Yeah. If you want to read more about this, you can check out our recent US News and World Report article linked below. You can also hit the subscribe button and catch us next week and every week when we do this. And don't forget to stop by at fee.org to see all the things the good people at fee have to offer. Thanks, James. Take it easy.


From around the globe, it's theCUBE with digital coverage of Mirantis Launchpad 2020, brought to you by Mirantis. Welcome back, I'm Stu Miniman and this is theCUBE's coverage of Mirantis Launchpad 2020. And always love when we get to be able to talk to the practitioners that are using some of the technologies here. One of the interesting things we've been digging into is Lens, the IDE in this space as it's being referred to. Happy to welcome to the program, Mori Paksula. He is the founder and chief technology officer at Supervisor.com. Mori, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, thank you. Thank you for having me. So if you could just, you know, help us understand, you know, your company, as I said, Supervisor.com. What's the background as the founder? What was kind of the impetus to creating that business? Sure, so Supervisor is like super simple because we believe and we know that the only way to test websites, if they can handle load, for example, e-commerce sites on Black Friday or when you are just about to make a product launch or that kind of stuff is just by sending real web browsers to the site that's actually click and scroll and do all the same things as a real users will do. But, and like our secret thing is that we can do it like before Black Friday. So if somebody wants to simulate, if they can handle like 2,000 users or 5,000 users, then they can use Supervisor.com to make it happen like today. So I'm just curious, you know, the concern always is about the DDoS attack and the like. Do you help companies along that line too? Or is it more the testing for proper traffic and we leave the security aspect to somebody else? Yeah, well, like with any load testing tool, you have to verify yourself somehow. And with us, it's super easy because we are integrated with Google Analytics and if you authorize us to read your Google Analytics data, then we know that you are allowed to test your site. Wonderful, well, as I said in the lead, you're using Lens, my understanding, you've been using it since the early day. Of course, a technology that closed source, Morantis has acquired that in the team. It's now also open source. So if you could bring us back to, you know, how did you get involved with Lens? What was the, you know, the problem statement that it helped you resolve? Yeah, sure. So the history super briefly is that Lens was developed by this startup called Contana. It's a Finnish startup and they made a couple of attempts in container orchestration like before Kubernetes and then Kubernetes game and they just felt like Kubernetes is super hard to kind of visualize or like understand what's going on because you have these containers flying around, you have nodes going in, going out. So they built this Lens and then since I've been working with those guys from 2015 or so, I was like one of the first outside users or probably the first user outside of the company. So that's pretty neat that you had that, you know, that project that they were doing as an early user, you know, give us a little bit of that journey. What does it enable for your company, you know, how's it expanded from kind of the early use cases to where it is today? Yeah, so if you're using Kubernetes traditionally or like how most of the people who haven't yet heard about Lens use it is by or from the command line. So that's where you use Kube CTL or Kube control. You say Kube CTL, get pod and then you get listing pods. But the problem is that all that data is stale on the screen. So if you train, try to, for example, for example, delete the pod and you issue Kube CTL, delete pod, blah, blah, blah. And then you hit enter and the bot already, it might be gone. So Lens makes like everything real time. And like, if you try to delete something with Lens you move your mouse on top of the pod and if it's getting deleted, you notice it because it just disappears from your screen and like it's not there anymore. And I think that's like huge productivity boost in a way that's how you can like get more and more stuff done every day as this kind of like when you're a developer or CS admin or whatever, you need to kind of like see what's happening in a cluster and how the nodes and pods are doing it and that. So back to your question when you asked like, how has the evolved Lens? It's like nowadays it's super stable. It handles big workloads very well. It went very, very early on. They had some performance issues with like large clusters for example, when Supervisor, when we run a load test with for example, 10,000 concurrent web browsers. So basically what we have in Kubernetes is we have 10,000 pods. And then when you connect something like Lens to it it just like started to spin up my fans on the laptop and eating all the RAM. So I helped them a lot with my special use case of running like super big kind of fMural workloads there. Yeah, it's an interesting discussion. And in the whole container space there's all that discussion of scale. Of course, everybody thinks back to Google and how they used it. So we know it can go really big, but environments I needed to be able to work really small or use cases like yours I needed to be able to first use that usage when you need it and go back on that elasticity that we hope for in cloud. So I'm curious, what's your expectation with it? Going open source, coming into Mirantis as a long time user of it, what do you expect to see? Well, I think like Mirantis offers the right kind of home for the product because they really get what's happening in the space. And I think they're like commercial offering on top of the open source will be around authentication. That's why like kind of understood from the press release. And I think it makes sense because like developers don't want to pay for these kinds of tools. And there are other tools that are commercial. And even if it's like just 100 bucks per year, I think that's not going to work out with most of the developers. And you kind of need this kind of long tail developer adoption for this kind of product to succeed. And I think that kind of like authentication, like centralized auth and like who can see what and that kind of stuff. It doesn't like affect most of the startups or indie devs, but like for any company who's doing like real business, those are the features that are needed. And when you use that the product for business, then I think it makes sense to pay also. Yeah, absolutely. There's always that challenge developers, of course, love open source tools if they can use them. And the packaging, the monetization isn't a question for you, it's for the Mirantis team. What would you say to your peers out there, people that are in the space, what are the areas that they say, oh, if I have this type of environment or if I have this team, this is what Lens will really be awesome for me. What are some of those things that you would recommend to your peers out there from all the usage that you've done? Yeah, so let's say it's three things. The first thing is what I already mentioned, the real-time-ness that everything updates live. The second thing is the integrated metrics. So you can, for example, follow how much memory or CPU something is consuming. It's super helpful when you want to understand what's really going on and how much resources something is taking. And then the 13 is that Lens is great for debugging because once you have deployed something and something is kind of off and it's kind of hard to reproduce locally, especially with this kind of microservice, the architecture, whatever you might have is that you can just like go inside any pod or node instantly from the UI. You don't have to like, again, you don't have to use Qtbl, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you have just like in there also because you are already in the, but it's the fourth thing is that if you manage multiple Kubernetes clusters, it's just super easy to accidentally connect to the wrong cluster. But like if you have this kind of visual tool where you can see in this, I'm in my production cluster or I'm in my staging cluster and you make the selection like visually there, then all the Qtbl and everything works just against that cluster. So I think that's like very helpful so that you don't actually accidentally delete something from production, for example. Wonderful, last question I have for you. Either lend specifically or kind of the ecosystem around it. What would be on your wish list for, as I said, either lend specifically or to manage your environments surrounding that? What would you be asking kind of Mirantis and the broader ecosystem for? I know that, well, let me think. Yeah, okay. First of all, I have like maybe 50, 60 issues still open at GitHub that I have opened there. So that's like my wish list, but like if you take like longer term, I think it would just be great if you could actually like start deployments from Lens. There are a bunch of deployment tools like Customize and Helm, but again, if you just want to get something running quickly, I think integrating that to Lens would be like super good. Just you would just like click like, I want to deploy this app. That's something I'm looking forward to. Yeah, absolutely. Everybody wants that simplicity. All right, well, hey, thank you so much. Great to hear the feedback. I'll always talk about the people that develop code as well as the people that do the beta testing and the feedback so critically important to the maturation development of everything in this space. So thanks so much for joining us. All right, thank you. Stay tuned for more coverage from Morantis Launchpad 2020. I'm Stu Miniman and thank you for watching theCUBE.


What a wonderful truth that gives us hope for today. And we're so glad that you're with us here on Hope Today. I'm Anna, and I'm here with Sydney and Tom. Tom, tell us about what to expect today. You guys are gonna love this. You know, it doesn't matter where or how you start out in life. God has a plan and purpose for everyone. And that's the message of piano artist, Kim Deardorf, who we had on the show with us last Friday. You may have heard him. But coming up in just a few minutes, you'll get to hear the continuation of my conversation with him and how God's using his life to encourage and inspire others. Plus, you'll also get to hear another one of his moving piano performances. You're gonna be blessed by that.  It's so powerful. You know, it's just really powerful when we hear other stories. It gives us hope. It gives us a determination to believe that God did it for them, then he can do it for me as well. So we always love to bring you encouraging and inspiring stories that you can be inspired and bring hope to your soul. Yeah, truly each one of us have a story. Like God has written this beautiful story for us to tell, to be a light.  We have to go through that dark time, that winter season where everything feels dead and lost, but know that springtime is coming. And when you're down in that dark place, God is working a new thing to bring you back to life again. And that's truly what we're gonna see in the story today. Well, I do love people's stories. There was a praise song like 20 years ago or so that said, Gadot is as his people, we're here to seek his face. To each there is a story of his amazing grace. And I have that story, we all do. You have that story too, if you know him. Yes, you do. And now we're gonna take some time to play something called Stump the Host. Let's go. All right, here's question number one. What type of insect did John the Baptist eat in the desert? This is easy, isn't it? Locust and honey. It was locust. Can I just say our marketing director here, when she was away at a conference, she ate locusts. Like to experience the John the Baptist. I mean, I was at that conference and apparently one of the places had those. I'm glad I didn't go by that. Here is our second one. Which God was Paul mistaken for in Leistra? He was mistaken for Hermes, okay, because he was the main speaker. They were him and the other, I forget who was with them at that time, they were mistaken for Zeus and Hermes. It was Hermes. Okay, there we go. All right, all right, take that, take that, David, Neil. We are watching their faces. Oh my God, oh my God. Here's the last question. What was the name of Judas Iscariot's father? Oh, I don't know. You know, it's funny, I was just reading about this, but I don't remember. This is when we want to pay attention to the lineage, the list of names probably. Judas Iscariot, I have no idea. Carrot, no, is carrot. No, oh my goodness. There's something in his last name there, Iscariot that means something like that. Larry just buzz, like Rick upstairs just buzz us. We just buzz us. We got it, we have no idea. We are stumps. Signed Iscariot, you were on the right track. No, I think I was on the wrong track actually. I think I jumped the track. My brain jumped the track on that one. Boy, I'm glad you played along. Right now, take a look at this video of Kim Deirdorff sharing his story. My name is Kim Deirdorff, and this is my story. I was born in Seoul, South Korea in 1964. I was found in the garbage when I was just a few days old. I was taken to the Holt Orphanage, and I spent the first several weeks of my life in a hospital where they thought I had something wrong with my eyes and they thought I might be blind. They gave me the birthday of January 1st since they didn't know when I was born. And this is the LA airport. This is the airport that all the parents gather to fly over to Korea to adopt their children. And here they're flying from LA to Seoul. And here they arrive in Korea, and everyone's excited about meeting the children for the first time. And this is my adoptive mother and my adopted sister, Kathy. And this is my adoptive father, and he was helping out at the orphanage. And during the week, they were shooting the story about the Holt's. Harry Holt dies of a heart attack, and this man who devoted his life to saving others was gone. He devoted his life to saving children, and I am one of those he saved. And here we are at his funeral in Seoul. And this is another picture of my adoptive mother and my sister, Kathy. And after that emotional week, all the families are excited about returning back to America to start their new lives. And everyone has a story, and this is my story. And here I am, I'm four months old, and I weigh eight pounds, and I've been saved twice through the blood of Jesus Christ.  What a powerful story. Kim Dyrdorf is with us to share what God is doing and the rest of his story. Kim, thanks for coming back to the show. Well, absolutely, it's an honor to be here. Let me ask you, something that we didn't cover last time is you're self-taught, completely self-taught as far as the piano. That's right. And I think that's an important thing because I don't have all the formal training and background and degrees to fall back on or to rest on. I have to just accept the fact that God gave me the ability and a gift and a wanting to learn this instrument and a willingness, and he really supplies all the power behind it. So we heard your story last time, and we just saw the video. What has God done in 2000? You had a new direction in your life. What's God's done there? Sure, so I'd been in Florida for five years. You know, every year, January 1st is my birthday, so on New Year's Day, I'd pray and ask God, well, what's next? What might you be wanting me to do this year? And in 2000, I somehow felt an overwhelming desire or leading to move to Nashville, Tennessee. 1987, when I was in Texas, I entered my first and only songwriting competition. It was a national Christian songwriting competition in Anastaspar, Colorado. I didn't place first, but I placed third nationally, and I was invited to move to Nashville in 87. So for 13 years, I'd been thinking about moving to Nashville. And over 13 years, God eventually said, you know, I think it's time to move to Nashville. And I didn't even know how or why. Yeah, so what happened when you went to Nashville? What did God do? Sure, so I'd spent 18 months doing freelance work in Orlando, and God had blessed my business tremendously. I was competing against multi-million dollar production companies out of my bedroom. And so I moved to Nashville just strictly on faith and God's leading. And I left my friends behind. I left my professional clients behind. I left my church family behind. Yeah, you're like the rhinestone cowboy walking the streets just looking for the opportunity. Well, you know, it's interesting because had I moved in 87, my whole goal would have been to just become a famous songwriter. And 2000 after 13 years of waiting, my heart's goal and desire was just to follow God's leading in my life. And so I moved to Nashville. I called over 285 studios, producers, editors, video production companies. I went to all kinds of industry functions. I had one day of work in 18 months. And I went through depression like I'd never gone through in my life. Nobody was calling. I'd left all my friends and my support, you know, people back in Orlando. And it was just me and God. And, you know, I laid on the floor for like two weeks because I was just in depression thinking, well, I moved to Nashville now, what's happening? A year and a half later, I get hired to be a teacher at the National State Community College. They were teaching the very first class in digital audio recording. I was the first teacher off of that. I was invited to train all the audio engineers at Country Music Television because that was the software that they were using. At the end of that, I was invited to be the first ever audio freelance engineer in Country Music Television history in Nashville in the city of thousands of engineers. You know, and it's just, again, it's just God leading my life in a very unconventional way. When I was teaching at the college, I didn't even have a degree. And so that's just God opening up that opportunity. I ended up, you know, up and down financially for the next six years. I found some original footage of when my parents adopted me back in 1964. I edited it into a three minute video. I put it up real early on. That's what we just saw, isn't it? Yes, that's right. I put it up on YouTube and I started getting people writing to me from all over the world. I got invited to start speaking at conferences. My first ever conference was in Portland, Oregon. I'd never done a conference before. I'd never spoke before. And I show up in Oregon and I found out I'm the keynote speaker for the weekend. Oh my goodness. Wow, this is a Joseph story here from, you know, not having any work at all for a year and a half to kind of being just behind the scenes, to teaching, to then this, what happened with the conference? Well, you know, she asked me for an outline of what I'd be speaking on. I didn't have an outline course. I'd never done this before. I did three days, 90 minute talks each to high schoolers. And you know, you can tell when the Holy Spirit shows up. Based off that experience, I felt like, well, maybe God may be preparing me to share my testimony more. And so I kind of was thinking in that direction. In 2008, I'm sitting in my room. I'm two months behind on all my bills. Financially, I'm really struggling. I was invited to Knoxville, Tennessee to represent Holt International, the agency that I was adopted through when I was a baby. And I was representing them and inviting people to sponsor orphans for the organization. I didn't even have money to travel from Nashville to Knoxville. I was FedEx the check of $200. I went to Knoxville. I'm sitting behind a table that first night. And the head of the conference comes up to me and says, hey, would you share part of your story and tomorrow morning's appeal and help interest other people to sponsor children? So I met him at 10 o'clock. We walk around to the back of the auditorium. I said, I also have some music CDs I brought along. He said, that sounds great. He said, why don't we offer some of your CDs to the people that sponsor children? Well, I only had 110 of them left. I was two months behind all my bills. I just walked through a room where all the speakers had all their DVDs, videos, books. And I saw stacks of money on the table. And he was asking me to give my last 110 CDs away. And I said, I'm just going to trust God. And I went out and I presented my story in a way I had never presented it before. And the Holy Spirit's presence was so strong. They had record number of sponsorships that weekend, more sponsorships than they'd ever had at any other event. And I was invited to go on tour with them to finish out the tour. It was a group called New Song. And over the next six and a half months, I did 73 cities. You went from not sharing your testimony at all, not knowing what you're going to share hardly, to all of a sudden, you're the main speaker for 73. They featured my story. I got to represent Holt. Halfway through the tour, we were doing the Christmas segment. All the kids on my bus were half my age. I was 47 at the time. They were all in their 20s. And they were always encouraging Eddie to maybe have me play some music at the program.  He said, we have 15 minutes before the program. He says, can you play some music during Christmas? He said, where are you going to play? I said, I'm going to play Silent Night and do other songs. He says, well, I don't want them to get bored. And I said, well, I said, Eddie, this is what I'm going to say. I said, I'm like the little drummer boy. I have one style of music. I wish I had all these other styles. I'm the little drummer boy. I have one drum. I said, all I can do is take my one drum and place it before the lord and ask him to bless it. And the response was so good that he had me play for the rest of the tour. And my point is, don't ever feel limited by what God gives you, even though you don't feel it's enough, because it's God's interacting in what he's already done in your life that provides the platform. Provides the platform. And he did a lot in your life.  So I guess you met Sherry along the way here. And you got married at this point. Well, you know, at 47, I was invited to talk at a small group. I saw this girl. She came up and we started talking. We went on our first date four days later. We got married two months after that at 47. This year is our 12th. You were making up for lost time, brother. I will say this year is our 12th anniversary. But what I also say is, when God moves, it doesn't take a long time for him to do something. I was always lamenting that all my friends had already gotten married, had families, bought a house. And at 47, at 48, I bought my first house. I married Sherry. I inherited three beautiful, loving kids. So in one year, I'd already caught up with all my friends. Wow, how about that? So let me ask you about today, right now.  How is God using your involvement with Holt or how's God doing that? So in 2020, Sherry lost her job and her mom on January 3rd on the same day. And we decided that we wanted us to do more ministry work. So we started a 501C3 called My Story Kim Ministries. And it's really dedicated to me doing this, where I get to share my story, what God's done in my life, what God can do in anybody's life, as long as they accept him into their heart and allow him to lead. And right now, we're partnered with Holt, the agents. That's the agency that adopted you way back. Right, so we do events and churches and conferences, and I share my story and we invite people to sponsor Children Through Holt. So if somebody's watching and they want to sponsor a child through Holt, how do they do that? Just go to my website, it's mystorykim.com. And on the first page, there's a whole, there's links where people come together. And what does that mean to sponsor Holt? It basically means they get to go to a webpage. They have children from all over the world that they can select a particular child. They provide food and education and support. A lot of these kids aren't being adopted currently, but they're needing support in foster homes. And so they're able to lend help with their education and their health needs and that kind of thing. And we'll be sure to put a link on our website, ctvn.org, to your website. But I want to ask you, we're gonna hear your music in just a moment. One final thing, what has God, what was the one word God's given you for to share with everyone? I think the key in my life and in anybody's life is identity. Before I met the Lord, before He solidified His relationship with me, I was just, I didn't know who I was. I especially didn't know who I was as biologically. But I didn't know who I was, who God made me. And so I think the most important thing for anybody is to learn their identity and that their identity can be a child of God through Christ. That is such a good word. Kim Durdorf, thank you so much for sharing. Absolutely, thank you so much for having me. Powerful, I know there's a lot more to it, but I appreciate what you've been able to share with us. And we're gonna ask you to share some music with us. And so we're gonna hear from Kim in just a second. But I think it's so important for us to pause a moment and say, what is our identity? Some of us who grew up in Christian homes, we struggle with our identity. We struggle with where is God, when the things are difficult, what does God think about me?   And even when it's dark and even when it seems like things aren't getting through to God, he's still caring and he's still moving. Well, right now, Kim is gonna share with us the song, This Is My Father's World. Kim Durdorf said he had one drum. Like the little drummer boy and you all know the story. What can I give to the Christ child? Well, I give my drum, my talent, the thing I do. And that's what Kim has given to the Lord. And God is using it mightily. So what's that thing for you? Guys, I just, I think about this. I think we all have that drum. We all have that thing that we're, that God's given us a talent. Sometimes we don't recognize it. Sometimes it comes out later, but we have that thing to give to the Lord. Yeah, we absolutely do.  I wish I had their gift. Like look at all the ways that God is using them. Well, God has given each one of us a talent to use. And so our job is to search for what that is, to practice, to step out, step out of our comfort zone, try different things and see what the Lord does with it. So as you saw Kim in faith, he stepped out. And when we do, God is so faithful to multiply and use what he's given us. You know, Anna, when you're speaking, I just think of that scripture where the gifts of God, they're without repentance, they're irrevocable. So what he gives every one of us, whether we're in the kingdom or not, we all have a gift. But the thing is, I think it's so important with our gift, how are we going to use it? How are we going to use the things that God has given us to glorify him and to bring others to his light? And so as you're watching Kim's story, just pray that whatever gift that God has given you, no matter what it looks like, just to seek God's face and to know that you could use that to bring healing, to bring light, to bring love, to bring deliverance, to set other people's free, to bring them to Jesus. That's what it's all about.  Even if we don't know him, even if we don't know him, there's gifts inside of people that they can use for good or bad. In fact, some people have used their gifts of leadership or their gifts of influence or the gifts of music or their gifts of whatever for wrong. But God wants to take, that's one thing I love about God is when we come to him, when we come in humility and say, I need you in my life, Lord, please come into my life, be my Lord and Savior. When we do that, all of a sudden he says, hey, guess what, I've put this thing inside of you. You've used it wrongly. Maybe you didn't even recognize it, but you've used it wrongly. Now let me take that thing and let me form it and with the character of Christ in it and let me use it to glorify God and bring life to the kingdom of God. Those things, it's just incredible. I've seen it over and over again in people's lives. Yeah, and something both of you said that I just wanna magnify is that it really is about glorifying God that your life would bring glory to God. It's not about bringing glory to ourselves, which is why we have to trust God to develop it, to give us the opportunities to step out. So today, know that your life was created to glorify God. So push that fear away, step into that faith and see what God will do. You know, even though we're just having this conversation, I think no matter what the gift is, no matter what he's given us, I think it is so important for us to be a living sacrifice. That is something that God has just been building and burning in my spirit every day is that how do we come before God? How do we lay ourselves before him?  So we just want to ask you, are you ready to be a living sacrifice for Jesus? That is the greatest hope that we have. Have a great day. On tomorrow's Hope Today, encouraging the next generation to get outdoors and get to know God. Author Erin Lynam invites parents to help their children re-engage with the natural world by teaching them the connection between God and creation. 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