Okay, welcome to the July edition of the Quartier meeting. Hopefully everybody's having a good summer so far. Let me advance the slide. Yeah, I don't think there were any new suggestions for the agenda topic that was on the issue. So we'll go over mostly three things. David's gonna give us an update on the advisory council discussion we've had for a while and following up from last month's meeting on sort of reframing, contribute for price labels or issues. And another discussion that we've had for a while on the Slack workspace, especially for Quartier members. So those are the main topics. And I got a couple of quick ones for GitLag commit and the next month's meeting or upcoming two meetings. But I mean, feel free to add on the slide itself if you have anything else that you wanna discuss towards the end. Eili, how are you? See you until now. Good morning, yeah, probably by yourself. Good, good, thanks. Okay, so let me advance the slides and I guess I'll turn things over to you, David and give us a quick update on community advisory council and so it's a reminder from last month's meeting. All right, kind of David. Thanks, Ray. Yeah, I've put the link to the measure best which all of you are familiar with. Essentially, yeah, what I wanted to say is that that I've been considering closing this MR essentially while there's been interest for some of them and then being used for some of you as well. The initiative has not construction. One thing that I should do though, first of all is I should probably apologize for the time it's taken for getting an update on this as the DRI or the person who proposed this I should have been more on the ball essentially essentially bringing this to a conclusion either way. I think perhaps leading to, the thoughts leading to that decision, I feel that having another process, having another governance body that has more time commitment to people who are already offering their free time as volunteers might be putting them at stress. I think all in that one thing that I was concerned about personally is the forepoint of their potentially public expression that members of this council would have. We've had some controversial discussions in the past and I'm thinking that we will have more in the future as well. And yeah, and for one, I think this might bring and one that may be exposure to people who would be part of this body. And then for them to try to represent both the views of the weather community. Also we have a critical eye with kid lab but also defending kid lab decision in some cases this could lead to stressful situations. All in all, I'm thinking that as I'm saying this slide I think rather than having a body that requires regular time commitment or I was defining a process that we can activate whenever there is this need for having more visibility and getting more proactive feedback on a particular decision that kid lab is trying to take might be more effective. I think right after this call and after hearing your thoughts my plan would be to add comment on that MR essentially similar to what I've just said here and then close the MR. But yeah, any perhaps I'll just turn it over to you. Any thoughts, any concerns, any ideas? I think you already contacted some people to join the community advisory council. Probably it's best to inform them not only we as a comment on closing the MR but send them a personal message at least those that you invited already. And you mentioned that there should be a process as an alternative to deal with situations where kid lab makes a controversial decision is the process already documented somewhere or do we have to create it or... We don't have a process yet documented anywhere. I mean the ideas would be essentially and that's just a proposal by the way it's said. There's nothing in the works yet would be to have a way to mark particular issues or particular MRs as requiring wider community feedback and then proactively engage with community leaders to provide their feedback. I mean in my head I'm thinking that's something like a label where people can subscribe freely to might work but we might still want to reach out to some people proactively. If we were to do this then we would start an MR and then get the feedback in there but if anyone has any thoughts on this or things that make sense by all means don't block on us from the IT lab team to create this. If you think this is something that might make sense then feel free to propose a process as well and I would personally be supportive as well. Yeah I think at least the small process would be good to have just something like if there's a controversial discussion it's this label and be active in the discussion because I think that was the last big thing that some people from good lab simply left one comment and then didn't participate in the discussion anymore and that increased the outrage. So I think it would be good to have at least a short general process for this kind of situation. So people have a start to handle this. I think the only risk with what was just proposed there is like you know no one's going to want to label a issue as controversial so like how do you handle how do you make sure that they don't make a mess? Yeah I would choose a perhaps a more neutral I mean this might be just a small thing with the naming but I would just use a label called requires community feedback or something like that perhaps that's yeah I think I agree with you Ben. I think explicitly naming it controversial might automatically make it controversial even if it wasn't in the first place. Yeah I mean I agree you would come up with a different name I still think you run a similar risk of like I mean I guess it's kind you know kind of core team can look out for that kind of stuff but need various folks to not be afraid to ask for community feedback and I think some people might be just because you know they might not agree with what they're trying to do so I'm not saying there's a perfect solution I don't have an alternative just you know coming from the other side. Yeah I mean I think it might require a particularly new some education particularly new members to new team members to GitLab to essentially not be afraid of having this discussion whenever there's something that's potentially going to be controversial. So perhaps to recap the conversation I think one thing that I can do is to send us what's suggesting contact those members outside of the core team that we reached out to to be part of the initial council to let them know about the decision to gather their feedback as well and then following that and depending on that feedback and most probably close the DMR with with a comment and the comment would be would have just said here essentially and then I will extend the invitation as well to those that we contact and to see if there's that the they would have feedback on this process for gathering feedback and then yeah probably then start a new MR with a more lightweight process. Yeah sounds good. Perfect thanks a lot for your feedback I really appreciate it and then again apologies for having this familiar for such a long time. Some learning I need to do here as well. Thanks David. Okay advance the slide won't do quickly. Okay so the next topic we talked about this briefly last month on contribute for prize. I mean this labels fit around for I think a little over a year I mean the purpose was to encourage people to I mean that's just way for like the quarterly hackathons but work on issues that particularly product managers highlighted to work on like a throughout the year to get lab merchandise and I think I mentioned last month I the only person who actually had an MR merge through this program was actually a COCO and a couple of others like try to work on something but it didn't quite work out. I mean a few things that I mean I've learned I think David that you mentioned this is one of the last bullet items. I mean I think I tried to promote it through I mean mostly through my tweets but I might have had like a get lab social team at least retweet as well but it's probably worth being a little bit more proactive about this I for example do like quarterly or schedule the scheduled tweets with with the list of issues that have these labels you know I mean I have a new name that that's that sort of proposed but keeping this on on top of everybody's mind on a regular basis may not be a bad thing to highlight some of the issues that we want we want to encourage wider community members to work on and on that issue itself I think there were like a two or three names that that that were proposed but I think what I what I'm sort of bleeding towards is just renaming that label to call it like a community challenge so don't emphasize the price too much as this is more of a substantial like an issue that we want to encourage community members to work on I mean even like outside of the hackathon and that we also looked at myself and Samantha one of the community advocates we looked at like upgrading their prize as well we're looking at a couple of options and we can actually customize their prize with the message if we go with the community challenge label we can add a message something along the lines of I met this challenge on the merchandise so that's something that community members can celebrate with so it's a you know slight modification of the label or the program that we that we created a while ago but that's sort of the you know version two that I was thinking of doing but obviously want to get your feedback and get your thoughts on it yeah and then also if you click on this link I mean there are about 1920 issues with that with that label that you can take a look at to get a sense of type of issues that people added the label to but even within GitLab team members is probably definitely needs a reminder or refresher because it's like I said this hasn't been necessarily active in the past few months especially so let me just pause there and see people have any thoughts or feedback yeah I like the label change I think it's better not to focus so much on the price on the challenge itself because after all it shouldn't you shouldn't just do it because you get let's say a free t-shirt yeah yeah I mean yeah I mean you're exactly right I mean people aren't like motivated to do this I mean even if it's a like a hundred or $200 price which would be more than that we typically spend on merchandise but yeah I think people that are motivated to to work on these type of issues I doubt that the merchandise is the the main motivation it's nice way to kind of celebrate it but they're not doing it for like the monetary or material reasons we cover last week or last month I should say what the were there any specific criteria or was it very much down to the the kind of product manager to say well you know this is something we really want the community really want but we haven't got capacity to yeah I mean I think that's a I mean fair characterization I left it pretty much up to the product managers and I think like maybe it's in the handbook or even the original issue like for each of the stages I wanted to like a limit the number of them like I didn't want to have like a 50 like issues with a label on like for for the editor group as an example I mean I don't think that's ever happened but I sort of cautioned them to like a limited number of issues with that label but I didn't you know necessarily monitor them that closely but yeah I mean as long as like the product managers put some thought behind it and then that was important enough but I didn't think there was capacity among team members to work on them that's that's something they could add labels to but I think that might be good candidate to document on the handbook as in the criteria for for choosing those and those issues right yep let me add it to the notes here any other thoughts or for comments other issues limited only to product managers and thus the deliverables and features because I can say for the github frontend we will have a good challenge of migrating our code to view three and Apollo three and I believe it would be nice to have some contributions from community I'm not sure this should fall on the community challenge for price but is this limited to product managers only are you asking if is this limited to like you know product managers who can apply labels to the issues I mean not necessarily that's how we started but I mean you know no I mean the short answer is now if if in you know consultation amongst engineers or with the product managers if someone thinks it's appropriate to add that label you know as long as they're get live team members I think that's completely appropriate yeah I mean I think that's sort of the way it started but yeah maybe I should sort of mention that in the handbook as well right I was going to ask a similar question of like you know is there a process for people to nominate things because like I don't have anything on mine right now but there could be core team members that might see things that they think should be considered you know what how should they suggest it right yeah I mean I would like definitely leave it to each of the like that's just the product teams but each of the like your groups and stages because I mean they all you know work slightly differently so I want to respect different styles of work but yeah I mean you know whatever consensus they come to they decide certain issues like we're highlighting it shouldn't have just have to be product managers perhaps a perhaps a way and another way it might be to I mean for for core team members specifically if they see something that's that's getting traction or is there something that they personally feel that it's important to to get worked on and and there's no capacity in the in the stages teams for them to bring it up on a core team meeting for instance as in a nomination I know that this is not really async I mean there could be an async process but that might be a lightweight way of doing this as in nominations on on core team meetings right yeah I mean I guess I just you know again I don't have anything specifically now but like for example if you just sort this you track her by like popularity for example like there's a number of popular issues that are not scheduled like the most popular one for example dark theme you know it's not scheduled but like should it be considered and there's a bunch of other ones too so I think that's a really good point and that's kind of what I had in my head that's one of the ways the question that's come up in Gitter a few times around well what should I attack and I think we all have slightly different approaches to how we pick issues up but one of mine has certainly been to look at the most popular but the most popular ones generally I guess would have been picked up if they were simple enough so that would be my primary concern that a lot of the popular issues not necessarily but quite likely that they're fairly complex beasts and whilst I guess some of the community members are more than capable of of tackling them some of them might be you know really require a team of seasons get lab experts okay cool yeah I appreciate the feedback and I'll add all the court team members and in the handbook update that I make and yeah once since we have the label sort of sorted out I want to get the the prize kind of lined up and then can definitely work on updating the handbook and make more announcement through our our social team okay all right so move on to the next fun topic slack workspace and yeah Ben and I actually had a chance to catch up during a coffee chat earlier in the day and Ben you you've sort of been living lived through this over the past I mean almost two years now since you've been a court team member and Lee here you're kind of going through this now so I think it was almost like almost two years ago I think we I think well like you know before I before like David and I joined get lab I think the old slack policy was I think the court team members had only access to the development channel I think that's correct like I mean Remy correct me if I'm wrong or some of the other court team members I think they only had access to maybe one or two slack channels and then we opened it up to all slack channels yes a few months after David and I joined so so so everyone got access to all the slack channels as long as you're a court team member ahead of NDA sign and right around the time like Ben joined like there was some concerns like within get lab within it and others about there are like a certain private channels I mean a lot of the court team members you've seen this like the ones that start with like a pound a underscore like account specific channels that people were concerned about and we were trying to find like a different ways to kind of resolve it I think harness like you propose like is there a way to sort of isolate those private channels and slack and it turns out there still isn't a way to do this I mean we thought maybe if we upgraded our plan to something higher we upgraded from like a standard to think it's called plus so that's the isolation of like a private channels is still not a possibility so we're sort of in this like a limbo like I mean several of the court team members have access to all the channels Ben you have access to I don't know what the number is like maybe 15 or 20 or so and Lee you haven't seen it yet because it's a confidential issue I mean David just approved it a while ago but we request access for you to to like a 10 or 12 like a different channels on in Gillette workspace so I mean so it's a start but that's not I mean Ben I'll let you I'll let you like voice your concerns but it's obviously not ideal solutions because I mean Ben you shared an example like you started discussion in one of the channels that you have access to and then people mentioned another channel that you don't have access to and it obviously it's not a good experience so we're sort of it is like a state that's not like necessarily ideal people even amongst the court team members you don't have equal access to all the slack channels and one of the things that I wanted to have discussion on was about you know just like some of the other companies are the open source projects why don't we also start a like a completely open workspace that's separate from the current private instance of get lab and that's sort of one of the things that I you know even amongst the community relations team that we started talking about or thinking about so that's sort of where things are let me just stop there and then I mean do you want to share like other concerns that that we discussed early in the day well I mean you pretty much highlight that but it's like you know I have access to some channels and then I know there's other channels that would be good to get access to or nice to have access to but then it's like well is it worth the effort to ask Ray to request me access and get the approval and then like you know various different times people will be like oh look at this link it's like well I can only see the preview text of that link if I click the link it says you know doesn't exist because I don't have access like because for example like you know I do a lot of stuff with the docs I mean you eventually got access to the docs channels but originally it was like well I can't kind of go looking at the channels that are the topics I'm most interested in so I think you pretty much highlighted it you know I guess some other thoughts just like yeah I've seen other companies do public slacks or open-source projects rather I think that's a potential option to consider you know some potential conflicts there is like in a way it competes with Gitter but I'd say it's a lot different otherwise why does Github use Slack and not Gitter you know since you guys own it and then you know the thing I mentioned to Ray earlier today was just like a third thing to kind of consider could be to like run your own MatterMos server because I mean Github does ship MatterMos but no one at Github actually uses MatterMos so maybe that's an area that Github's kind of blind on but you do ship it as part of Omnibus so just various different thoughts I think that was what I was going to say is it are you far far far too deep to consider other solutions that I know I've bounced ideas around with maybe yourself Ray and some other maybe product team etc we since lockdown begun I've started using Discord my organization we're using the free plan I know there is a load of additional features if you pay but I mean the requirement seems fairly basic and it's quite surprising that Slack don't actually facilitate what you're looking for go ahead then sorry well I was going to say just I think something to consider too is like just because we set up another Slack Discord MatterMos whatever it is I mean doesn't necessarily mean that like Github the company has to change how they do things today like it'd be beneficial to have a bunch of engineers in all those places or whatever's chosen but I'm just referring to your comment of like are you already too deep in Slack because it doesn't necessarily mean the company has to change it's just like like for example I'm not active on Gitter because I find the experience quite not good yes that's very no I mean I think that's one of the issue like not a lot of GitLab team members are on Gitter because of the experience I mean they enable I mean we have like you can at least like create threads now but even threads it's pretty rudimentary it's not as elegant unfortunately I mean my thinking is that the threads are worse than not having threads you can't follow conversation anymore you know if somebody posts a reply to a message that was is not still on the screen you kind of don't really see it so yeah I'm fortunate I think as well whilst I can understand you know if we do bring on board yet another product or tool or whatever you want to call it but I think that's entirely the issue that we've got at the moment people don't like Gitter yeah the tool's not great and because there's no one I'm exaggerating things greatly here but yeah the the GitLab team aren't there so people come on and ask questions and don't get answers so yeah I think that's kind of the idea of trying to find something that you know I'm sure we've all experienced working in organisations where there's too many tools and too many systems and too many platforms and yeah it sounds a bit of a dangerous a slippery slope to me yeah I mean I think I think then if we were to use something like Mattermore then it should be the tool to use rather than that's like to be honest but I know that this is an ideal situation or rather not an aspiration and there's more complexity to that and to me the most important thing would be to remove walls because right now I mean people have access to to GitLab you can talk to GitLab over gitlab.com but this real time more instant messaging type of conversation is something that also creates or helps the community to get that connection with the GitLab team members much more than and conversations over MRs and I think if we were to have a separate open Slack instance we should definitely move some of the channels that are inside GitLab to have only one version rather than having private and public channels because otherwise the wall would still be there and even with the recommendation for the Latin MRs to work only in the public channels then does there is that conversation that's still happening on the private ones? Yeah I mean my sentiment is also that if I mean let's say you know all of a sudden we have this like a public instance if GitLab team members aren't there especially from the engineering side of GitLab then we're sort of back to where we are I mean you have a nicer interface and nicer tool with Slack but you know you still have that separation but and yeah but you know asking like a lot of the like a GitLab team members to you know keep track of both workspaces like I don't know there'll be a lot of objections or how that's going to go yeah and then I think I noted in the issue as well I talked to Dawei on the Militano team I mean they've had a public instance of Militano Slack for I mean at least like several months and it's a free version that I mean Dawei himself is managing it's not supported by GitLab IT so just you have a lot less bells and whistles on the free version so you know if we have a like a completely public instance with less bells and whistles I don't know that's going to cause a lot of issues either but yeah I mean Natalia I don't know if you do have any like a thoughts or yeah I think for good or bad I think people are just really entrenched into like Slack this is sort of become a habit for for a long time and it's hard to break away from yeah what scares me as GitLab team member if we have two instances like private and public and we have duplicative channels there right it would be definitely hard to track both even with one private instance sometimes it's very hard to keep up with messages or say front and for development if we move it all to public it could be fine but we would need to have some kind of moderators to prevent spamming and unrelated questions from the community and this will happen the person who moderates view discord I know this for sure and we have public and private instances as well so if we move public we need to ensure that messages are all related to the topic and not preventing core members and team members from something really important on these channels because if they are spammed nobody will just read them this is one of my concerns and with a public instance also we would need to make sure that GitLab team members are well aware that posting in the public space because sometimes in our channels some private slack sometimes things happen it's sometimes we post something that probably shouldn't be posted on public spaces like from simple things like I don't know non-inclusive lexic it still happens since on our slack and this might be a limiting factor for the team members as well because we need to think well before we post and you probably remember that we had a few incidents already with all our open issues and discussions and this transparency is one of our values but it also leads to some issues with publicity with hacker and discussions and ready discussions so this should be considered for sure right with Natalia because if the channels are open it will be too noisy there and there is no guarantee people will not pick the first channel from the list and use it as the the general support channel for example if we have the development channel we there's no guarantee that people won't use it as the just help me how to install the platform or something like that right it will be the problem I mean I hear what you're saying but how's that not a problem with Gitter and the form and so on today like you're changing medium but I don't think you're changing the problem I mean maybe you're making the problem easier to create because the tool is easier to use and easier to find but yeah I guess you still see questions about I mean once in a while I need to remind people like you know go to this Gitter channel for you know using get live questions if you're not contributing but uh yeah I wonder if the volume will be larger on Slack those incidents is happening but but I do agree with you like when I talk to Dao-Ai like he's managing that by himself like I don't know how many people are subscribing to that Slack channel but even if it's a free version I don't think it's probably something that like Gileb IT team will dedicate have to dedicate resources not just to like moderate it but also manage the the workspace but I mean yeah right like has again I'm not really that familiar with Gitter but I mean have much work went into trying to figure out the various efficiencies with it that people don't like I mean like for example I'm poking at it right now and like is there really only one channel for all of Gileb because no there no there are there are three there's one for contributors there's heroes and there's one for just I mean I think we called it like now is it called Gileb HQ I can't remember what it's called now but that's yeah so there are three right now but really just one for users isn't there yeah yeah yeah I mean I guess just okay I see now just the usability is that has some room for improvement 10 minutes of me looking around I can't figure it out I've definitely raised this a number of times not not the usability as such but I'm still looking for an answer why Gitter is used and all I've figured out for myself so far is because it's owned by Gileb yeah I mean so how we started using Gitter is that what you're asking Lee or I think we can answer this one actually yeah oh sorry I can give you my view at least I mean when I started there was that only channel Gileb and I'm not sure if by that yeah by that time it had been acquired by Gileb had been acquired by Gileb but that channel might have predated the acquisition I'm not sure right yes the I mean the reason why we started using it on the community team and the reason why we started creating the other channels was to have a way for community member to have that real-time conversation with community members particularly on the contributors channel then they can I mean people can talk to Ray can talk to the worship as coaches can talk to each other and that's yeah that's a that's an easy way with with the tool that's already there that's already hosted for us of that conversation and then recently for the same reasons John Cogman and our team created the the heroes channel for heroes to be able to have that and that real-time conversation that's essentially it I mean if we were to use I mean it's it's a free of cost tool right now it's it's on by Gileb and then the reason we started using was because yeah it was readily available we could have considered mother most for instance but gotcha okay and slack was maybe ruled out because it was assumed that there was a cost associated and you'd have the same permissiony related issues that we're discussing now yeah indeed okay yeah I mean I cannot ask I cannot answer the question on why the first channel ever was created but but yeah I mean that's that's how we started using the rest or we started greeting the rest on the community team cool I think the channel was originally created when Github was still hosted on Github and Github was just the tool where the community could get a free shed essentially for pretty much any Github project so somebody created the channel there and that's it okay I guess you're still very popular within there within Github right yeah those of you who probably contribute to more open source projects maybe more aware of if that that tool has a kind of reputation it's some of the discussion that I think I pointed out to Ray a while back that I saw in the Github channel a couple of guys yeah basically just saying you know why you know everyone uses Slack and I personally had never heard of Github before but then potentially you know I'm quite new to open source so maybe it is a fairly industry standard it too I need to find out I think about the year ago I saw someone posting a blog post on percentage of people there was a survey actually and there was still high percentage of Github projects using Github because of the of how easy it was to to set up essentially I'm not sure if things have changed since then but I'll try to find out and go with the data cool yeah so got about a minute left but thanks for your feedback I for I mean I should have mentioned this earlier we plan to as this says one of the topics during the group conversation called that community relations team will have next Thursday I believe so appreciate the feedback if you have any any more thoughts or feedback I mean feel free to leave comments on the issue we'll keep you up to date on this just just one thing to clarify right yeah for conversation Thursdays this week but the one next week the 23rd of July yep cool thanks all right so a couple of quick things I'll cover the second bullet first because that's quicker get like committed in case you haven't noticed it's free so it's obviously virtual like I mentioned last last month but please register it's it's going to go for two hours I I think each session are repeating at least one so if you miss it in your time zone for whatever reason you can catch sort of the next next wave so I want to encourage you to register and for next meeting I wanted to propose canceling the meeting in August I mean a lot of people will be on holidays and are typically on holidays in in August and also the the next hackathon it's going to be in the first week of September so so that's like early in the month typically we have court the meeting so I just wanted to cancel go ahead and cancel the meeting next month and resume the call on September 2nd if people are okay with that if you have any like concerns with that please let me know all right so we're actually gone a minute over thanks for staying later than usual thanks for your feedback and discussions and I'll talk to you or see you online pretty soon thanks Ryan have a good day thank you take care bye


Bismillah, Bismillah wa l-hamdu lillahi. As-salatu wa s-salam ala Rasulillah wa ala alihi wa sahbihi wa manwala. You know, it's interesting Mufti Abla Wahab, he said, when you get up there, you should talk for 25-30 minutes. I'm looking at the row in front of us. His brothers got their hands in their face. They tried not to fall asleep. I think it's very ironic that in a conference, it's based on love. Mufti Sahib has no love for the people in this room. He wants them to stay up till the middle of the night. He missed both, masha'Allah. Allah. I'm going to go through a few things pretty quick. I know the time is getting late. And alhamdulillah. I just want to first thank you all for being willing in the midst of so much of what the world is going through to come to a gathering like this. I want to be able to understand this as a basis to the conversation that we're going to have. It's very easy to bring bodies together in a physical sense. And the way a lot of our society functions, there's so many motivations and catalysts that bring us together in terms of externals. So you could fill entire corporate buildings, companies, people are bringing you together based off of salaries and wealth. You could go to so many different arenas that bring people together based off of elements of things that are materialistic. When we talk about love for the sake of Allah, it's a key ingredient in being able to now bring together individuals not on something that is rooted in an external, but it's a key ingredient in being able to bring people together in terms of something internal. How do you bring hearts together? You want to root this conversation in our most primordial state of existence. And in a damic narrative of creation, we are taught of so many things that are interjected for the first time that are deeply problematic in terms of things that are real, though a real sin, may Allah protect us from it. Iblis, he is without fail, identified as being arrogant, told to prostrate to Adam, and everything does save Iblis, flawed logic and absence of knowledge, deep arrogance, the first racist. And you see this now start to trickle down as the narrative continues. Adam, he is now in this earthly realm of existence. And you see progeny start to be established in literally from the same womb. Two brothers are born in our tradition. Tabil and Habib, Cain and Abel, and they interject a deep sin for the first time, which quite often is identified simply as murder, but it's deeper than that. And you have to think about it in the prism of loving for the sake of Allah, because we are all children of Adam. And being Banu Adam, it means that we have a shared heritage that transcends grace and ethnicity, clash and culture. And when you think now in the immediate of these two individuals being born, it's not simply murder that's taking place, but it's an act of fratricide, a brother killing a brother. How many people do you think were alive in the world at the time that Habib takes the life of Habib? Just picture in your head. It's not a lot of people. And if the world at that time where you can count the number of people in existence on your hands is still too small for individuals who came out of the same womb to be able to tolerate each other in such a way where desire, lust, envy does not now take precedent over things like compassion, mercy and love. What are we going to do when there's billions of us, but it shouldn't be lost in a discussion on love and love for the sake of Allah. That the first act of atrocity committed in this earthly realm of existence is an act of fratricide, a brother killing a brother. And it's the same thing that happens every day again and again and again, echoing through centuries of existence until today. When you have this construct, this phrase of love for the sake of Allah, there's two terms rooted in it that a lot of us don't have familiarity with. One is the word love. What does it mean to you? I want you to think within yourself. How did you learn what it means to love somebody? Who taught you that? And as you think about how it is that you learned because a lot of you never learned how to do it, the way somebody taught you two plus two equals four, the way somebody broke down certain types of curricula to you. Nobody ever sat down and said, this is what love looks like. This is how you love in a healthy way. I want you to think in a second reflection point beyond today going into many tomorrows. When was the first time you actually felt loved in your life? Real love without condition without qualification. May Allah never make us from amongst those who feel unloved. And may Allah had never let us be those who let the people around us feel unloved. Yes, think about it on a real level, a practical level. The very onset it believes can interject now a sin that kills a brother from another brother. And you can see within a room that diversity is not something that's meant to be a checkbox. It's not a congratulation that you can pat yourself on the back that says that, Hey, there's one black person that comes to my masjid, but then I have a friend that comes from a different walk of life, but you allow for yourself to think deeply. What does it mean to both love and then to deepen that love within a prism that says it is for the sake of the divine? The verse that went along with this session in its description from Surat Al-Ali Amran that many of us know that all of you hold fast to the rope of Allah. It's a verse that speaks to us about brotherhood, diversity, etc, etc. The things that get in the way that got in the way of Gabriel's heart are the same things that get into your heart, which is the thing that's function is to love. So if you have a desire or lust, you have something that catalysts and motivates you to be able to explain why you are distant from other people, the rest of creation. Why the basis of your bond is not rooted in something like compassion and mercy. Real Mahabba is going to come back to you in some capacity. I want to give you a few different reasons as to why sometimes there's obstacles. One, the heart, it just loves. And it's going to love what you tell it. It's supposed to love and what it is that you put in its presence. So if you talk to yourself in a way that says my sense of self is rooted based off of whether I have a ring on my finger or not, or whether my child has a ring on their finger, whether they have a big home or this many cars or this many children. My sense of self is rooted not just in who I invite to my home, but who I would never let come to my home who would never break fast with me. How can you have a deep love for just humanity on a whole when a society that is rooted in materialistic existence necessitates you having to be away from others so you could care less what somebody else has to not have in order for you to have as much as you have. So I don't want to think about everybody else who has to exist without means so that I can wear what I wear. I can drive what I drive. I can eat what I eat. I don't want to think about what it means that I'm able to live in certain parts of cities with certain amounts of funding going to certain schools and the roads are paved in certain ways and their security in certain ways, but the other part of the town that I never go to. I don't want to think about that. I don't want to think about what it means that for me to live in the house that I live in gentrification necessitates pushing out generations of families that have lived in these neighborhoods for a long time. You can love and it has nothing to do with God or you can love with the presence of the divine. Both inwardly and then manifesting outwardly that recognizes a shared humanity and says that I'm Muslim. I'm supposed to do it different from everybody else. It's not going to happen if you think more about what people will say based off of who you invite into your homes or not. If you have ever told someone in your family that they shouldn't be friends with someone from a certain race or ethnicity. If you tolerate not allowing people to marry someone from a different culture. These are not indications of love for the sake of God. If you are in a place where you can hear people get on the stage and ask you to donate to support orphans who have nothing. They have nobody to look after them.  You are witness to yourself as to what your heart is inclined towards. And you have to reflect introspectively not with self deprecation because to get to a destination necessitates being real on where do I actually stand in relation to it. The obstacle of the dunya is real. May Allah protect us from this. A second obstacle that's critical to understand. It's really hard to love somebody else when you don't love yourself. I can't fully completely have a love for you. When I really dislike me. The hadith that says that you love for your brother what you love for yourself is rooted in an idea of being able to have recognition of a common good and wanting for others certain things. But it also ends with an idea that you love things for yourself. Do you like the person that you are? Is the way that you treat people help them to also find a sense of love for themselves. Your rhetoric, your talk, the conversations that you have hours was a prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam who took people in a community that nobody wanted anything to do with. Help them to recognize what was inherently good within them and empower them based off of it. The kind of people that we would never think could have a love based relationship with God. The companion comes to take the HUD punishment for drinking. When people spoke poorly of him. What does our messenger say? Don't say those things. He loves Allah and his messenger. He's helping that person to not give in to the nonsensical thoughts of those that are around and to understand that there's something good within you. It's going to be hard to see beauty in others if you can't see your own light. If you cannot embrace your own luminosity. And it's one of the biggest variables that come into our lives that keeps us from really loving all those that are around us. I don't really like things about me and I don't know what to do with it. If you are an elder in this room, you have to be beyond smart as to how you talk to young people and not just young who are children, but young who are younger than you. So even if you are 80 and the youngster is now 60, they still have impact from your words. So don't point out people's flaws only. Don't let them only hear as to why you think they make mistakes. If you have never told a young person in your life that you love them, remember who your teacher is, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam. You can take the abstract and theoretical that comes from the microphone over to you and just go in one ear and out the other or think about how it's transformative of me. And a lot of what we pass on to others is only what we possess in the first place.   One of the hardest things to overcome but is necessary is to be able with confidence in appreciation of everything Allah has given to us is to actually start to chip away at the parts of myself that I don't like. And once I can learn to love me and everything my strengths and non-strengths, it's going to be a lot easier for me to go out and love a world that is very different from me. But if I'm more prone to wrestle and struggle with my own insecurities and not know how to overcome my mistakes, it's going to build up and I'm just going to see what's wrong with everybody else constantly. I'm going to put barriers where there's not supposed to be barriers. They're going to come in the way. How do you start to overcome it on a practical level? How do you start to look at it deeply within yourself? It can be hard to do on your own, so surround yourself with good people. Allow for yourself to be in a place where you can recognize the need for positive voices in your life, spaces where you can self-express, to be in gatherings that are gatherings that are rooted in shared internals. I love coming to Miftah events because I love hanging out with the Wahid brothers. They're just nice people, man. Masha'Allah. And I've been in numerous spaces with different people all over the world. And I can tell you when you find people who help uplift your inside, you're going to want to fly across the country to just spend moments with them.  Because this is Quran. A jaza al-ahsani ila al-ahsan that is a reward for beauty, anything other than beauty. It perpetuates itself.  You become that catalyst of real goodness and beauty. And you start to bring in a much-needed love that is categorized as being rooted in something that is for the sake of the Divine. And our God is a God that loves us not just because of who we are, but he loves us because of who he is as a Zohan. And you seek to embody that within yourself. And you just got to love people because they're people. You love humanity because you share humanity with them. And it goes back to what I was saying to you in the beginning. How did you learn how to love in the beginning? How did you learn how to implement it for yourself? Who taught it to you? Where did it come from? If we went one by one by one, most of us stopped learning how to treat others by the time we were in kindergarten. After that, the curricula was just rooted in something that was about the pursuit of something rooted in the dunya, wealth. The conversations around ethics and values, they stopped. Why does so much of the Quran talk about how we're supposed to treat people? Why are there so many hadiths about character, ethics, values? So you got to break out of the classes that are just on tahara. You know how to make wudu now.  You got to start tapping into the rest of yourself and just start thinking deeply. Do I treat people well? The elders, the youngsters, people who are my neighbors is love the basis of what's coming for me. If you don't even know what the word means, how are you going to be able to answer that question? When you go home from this place tonight, I want you to take out a notebook and just write at the top of it, what does love mean to me? What does it look like? And then just write for yourself and answer. And I want you to think about who are the people that I love in my life? And be real, be honest. Not the ones you're supposed to say, but the ones that you actually love. Who are they? It might be a hard reflection question, but I want you to think about who is it that makes me feel loved? Where are the spaces that I go where I feel loved? Do the people that I love actually know that I love them?  When was the last time you did that? You've ever been for Hajj? It's amazing experience. May Allah enable us to be invited back to his house and the house and the illuminated city of his messenger, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. May Allah end all of the oppression and injustice that comes out of those countries. I've gone to Medina and Mecca and there are millions of people that are there purely for the sake of Allah. Now the other end of the construct. And I've sat down in gatherings of people that I don't know and never will meet again likely from all corners of the world. I've sat down and had conversations with people who don't speak my language and I don't speak their language, but we still were able to communicate because we were there for the sake of Allah and being there for the sake of Allah is what informed the love that we had for each other. I can still see the faces of people that I sat with in certain parts of the haram, in certain prayers. You want to start to identify for yourself and that other end of this as you start to reflect on what does love mean for the sake of Allah? Who is Allah to me? Because you can dress man the way somebody else dresses and eat what somebody else eats. You can even go through the motions of prayer the way somebody else prays. It's not hard to prostrate with your body but if you want to start prostrating with your heart you want to start prostrating with the rest of you. You have to think for yourself who is the God that I worship? Who do I know Allah to be? You can't believe something just because somebody else believes it. Faith can be reasonable. It's not always just religious and spiritual. You came into this place and you believe that there would be lights in it. There's chairs to sit in. There's certain things that we have conviction in. And the same yakin that you have in these day to day occurrences water is going to come out my faucet. You got to believe in God, not just like that but also believe in God's love like that. He tells you he is al-wadood. So when anybody says how do you know Allah loves you? Say because he says he is the source of love. And then you reflect and you deepen. I am the dhani abdibi. I am as my servant thinks I am. If I asked you who is Allah to you what would you say? And then the two unfamiliars going together I don't know what love means. I don't know if I actually even love anybody. I don't even know if anybody really loves me. I love you. I know these brothers who put this conference on they love you. I know they're going to get to places early tomorrow and they're not even going to think twice about it. Sheikh Abdullah was on this stage and he was speaking while his flight is an hour to departure so that he can transit to another city and catch a early morning flight back to his city so he's just teaching more people there. He loves you if you don't know and then you also don't know who Allah is to you other things are going to then start governing your decision making your choices and it's not going to be for the sake of God but it's still going to be in motivation of something and whatever that other thing is it's not going to give you the solace the balance, the contentment that doing something out of love will give to you and that's why you have to do it for the sake of your own heart. I'm going to tell you one more thing I know Baytullah said this and this is really going to be the last thing I'm going to tell you we're Muslim and you can be like obviously yes we are but we're meant to be a little bit different from everybody else we're not meant to just go into our houses of worship and be with ourselves but it's meant to be transformative and then we go out and leave the world a little bit better I want you to think just about how amazing this is that you are seated where you are seated right now my grandfathers, both of my grandfathers six foot four tall, Kashmiri, Punjabi men my grandmothers were both five foot tall you can tell what end of the gene pool I landed on after partition my father's family moved to Lahore they lived in Guamundi if any of you have ever been there and the house they lived in was probably the length of this stage doubled two rooms my grandfather, my father's father he would ride a bike to a bank where he was a teller and then come home and have my dad and my uncle sit outside under a street lamp because they had no electricity in their house where they studied to become doctors because when you live under colonization there's not a lot of things that you can do where you don't have to answer to somebody who tells you that your way of life is backwards and for many people becoming a doctor was a way to not have to answer to that kind of nonsense and I think about my grandfather and in our collective history that incorporates the realities of colonization of slavery, of imperialism supremacy impacting so many of our lives I want you to think about your ancestors and people that you are connected to going back generations as much as you can you think any of them would think that you'd be sitting right now in California in a gathering like this Qabab ibn Arat radiallahu an Umar ibn al-Khattab saw him with his back covered one uncovered blisters and scars and this is a man who asked the Prophet why don't you make da'a for us ask Allah to give us victory and when he is seen bareback to give you context Umar radiallahu an says how did this happen and he says in the early years of persecution they used to make me lay on a bed of flaming coals and I was forced to stay there until the blood from my back extinguished the flames and he's now asking the Prophet why don't you make da'a for us why don't you ask Allah to give us victory and our Prophet ibn al-Khattab tells him to not say such things but this is not contrary to his being his being a source of mercy because what else is he going to say that you're right we don't have what it takes we're not going to be able to overcome these struggles he's going to say no Ya Qabab today is hard but tomorrow will be better what do you think people like Qabab ibn Arat were thinking when the Prophet delivers a farewell sermon to 120,000 plus companions when they can walk into the city of Mecca and with real love not even have to cause pain or hurt to any of their persecutors everybody's forgiven what do you think now I want you to think about people who are in your heritage that struggled that went across entire plains of this worldly existence so that you can get to where you are right now my grandfather likely could never imagine that I'd be standing where I am at this moment and I know what he had to go through and the people before him had to go through my family's from Kashmir may Allah end the occupation there and end the occupation in Palestine and make us the people who in our generation see a free Kashmir and a free Palestine and I can tell you what keeps me going every day is real love I love the people of my community I love the people of my city and I'm gonna get up and do whatever I can to keep going and it's not because I don't get tired but the positivity can give an energy unlike anything that negativity brings to you so you might not be getting done only what you uniquely can because what's missing is that love and so you take everything that our teachers taught us on this stage today and you bring it back to you because your heart is yours nobody else will choose your choices and you think how does this love factor in my life how do I start to build it and spread it and motivate through it and in the midst of so much darkness where people are every day forgotten I'm gonna share as much light as I can as much love as I can as much of myself as I can I'm not gonna do it in expectation of anything in return because that's what somebody who's motivated by love really does you just do it because your heart's telling you to do it and every part of your body wants to just do it and the secret is that that's what the reward is at the end of it to get to that place Sheikh Muhammad Yaqubi, may Allah preserve him he once said that the entire point of all of this is for us to just recognize Allah's love for us and that you spend your entire existence in just realization of that love the prohibitions, the obligations, the boundaries, whatever else it's all because of God's love and don't let the ritual be the goal but make it a means to something and let yourself then deepen in it grow in it it can be scary and intimidating but once you embrace it it'll give you an unbounded courage the ability to be bold in your audacity then you follow in the footsteps of the best of creation Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam what better footsteps to follow in if I can never be helpful to any of you if there's anything you have going on please don't hesitate in reaching out insha'Allah Ta'ala would be my honor to be able to assist in whatever it is that I can but if this is the only time that we are meant to be together then I pray insha'Allah Ta'ala Allah Azza wa Jalla gathers us all together again in the best of places in the world beyond this one please keep me in your da'a's you and your loved ones will be in mind always may Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide us and protect us may He bless us with knowledge that benefits us may He bless us with a Tawfiq to understand and implement that knowledge into our daily lives may He guide and bless us all Allah Ta'ala Aalim wa Billahi Tawfiq Wassalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Ta'ala Wa Barakatuh Mufti Sahib asked me to make da'a it's a dangerous thing to give you a perspective I was making da'a the other day and my nine-year-old daughter was sitting in my lap and the poor girl fell asleep because of the length of the da'a if you want to put your heads down go for it I want you to recenter yourself just as we make da'a really believe in a God that is listening I know we've been sitting for a while but center yourself to the space allow for yourself to not just be physically present but present in every sense of who it is that you are insha'Allah Ta'ala Allah Azza wa Jalla will accept for us our da'a and grant us even better than what it is that we are asking of Him We begin this supplication in your name Ya Allah and beseech you to send your choice of salutation upon your most beloved Sala Allahu Ta'ala We ask that you shower your infinite mercy upon this gathering granting each and every one who is present herein in our loved ones only the best in this world and the best in the next We ask Ya Allah that if all of us are meant to be together only at this time at this place whether we are young or old, male or female regardless of our race, our ethnicity, our social class our country of origin, our cultural heritage whether we are Muslim or come from a different walk of life Ya Rabbi if our individual hearts are meant to be in the presence of all of their hearts that are gathered here only at this time at this place then gather us all together again in the best of places in the world beyond this one We turn to you Ya Allah you who are the source of life, of truth, of sustenance and love We turn to you at the end of this auspicious gathering in pursuit of true knowledge and understanding make us from the wise Ya Rabbi who implement everything that it is that we have learned and those who seek out only wisdom grant us contentment that only wisdom can a contentment that escapes so many thank you for all those you have placed into our lives who have spoken words of truth, love and wisdom to us even when we didn't want to hear them grant us the wisdom to know when you are using someone to speak instruction into our hearts and the strength and courage to follow through with that guidance even when it's difficult grant us wisdom that does not lead us simply to wealth in the world but leads us to real love and understanding and our pursuit of knowledge make us those who find that which our hearts are in need of and guide us always as we travel this world with an ever increasing thirst for real truth it is usually the ignorant who believe they always know the unaware who think they understand make us those who are always in pursuit of growth and never satisfied with where we currently stand make us those who increase in our wisdom through sound reflection and contemplation and keep us from becoming those who only gain understanding through experience grant us a deep control over our emotions and never let us become those whose anger overpowers our intelligence to know others is intelligence but to know ourselves is Hikma, real wisdom to exert control over others is a sign of strength but to be able to control ourselves is real power make us from the strongest of the believers and let us never be those who gain the world at the expense of losing our souls as we leave from this conference grant us strength of all kinds put Baraka and Taufiq into each of our endeavors put into our beings a desire for nothing less than true excellence and to push ourselves to try our very best let each of us excel at all that it is that we do and with each success in this world grant us more success in regards to the world beyond this one for all those who have come here ya Rabbi bless us always make us those who act only with knowledge and to never leave any knowledge that we have been given unacted upon show us how to use it with wisdom to use it to bring benefit to this world and all those who are in it and to be a means of benefit for us in the world beyond this one help us to use what it is that we have learned in our time here everything that we have acquired as well as the relationships that we have built to make this world a little bit better in ways that only we uniquely can as my brothers and sisters who have gathered here look forward from this place help them to look with foresight and let their foresight be rooted in courage, never fear let each one who is assembled here meet the future with hope and make them the hope that we need for our futures to be filled with love, life and light send them only those who will be their helpers and supporters and protect them always from any harm or tribulation any affliction, anxiety or anguish make them those who are never afraid to dream give them inspiration to work towards achieving each of their heart's aspirations to find strength through service of your creation success in each failure increase each one of them in knowledge that is beneficial and protect them from that knowledge that does not benefit them or any of those that are around them help them yalla to deepen their beneficial knowing to know their strengths and to live by them to know their character and how to increase it to know their never let them feel any pain but if they do then help them to know how to heal from it to know their value and how to share it to know their blessings and how to be grateful for them to know their wants and to see where they conflict with their needs to know their shortcomings and how to confront and defeat them to know how to really forgive all those that wronged them and actually forgive them to know how to seek forgiveness from those that they have wronged and to actually forgive them to know what charity is by being generous with their wealth and their time to know what integrity is by being honest and truthful and to know what goodness is by extending their hands without qualification to all those who are in need help each and everyone who is coming to this space to know who it is that they are and not let the people they are today be afraid to ever meet the people they can be tomorrow help them to truly know themselves better today they are in this world and through that understanding, ya Allah help them to better themselves and their knowing of you and your mercy to know you and your love perfect them inwardly and to always be in control of their hearts make them from amongst those who live with true contentment every day of their lives and grant them an abode in the place of ultimate contentment in the world beyond this one allow for their beings to always be filled with self-love so they may go out and share that love with others rather than a love of themselves that keeps them from doing all that they are able to do when their hearts are heavy and they are filled with darkness bring people to them who illuminate them through kindness, compassion, and love make them always the reason that people have hope in this world never the reason that people might dread it help them to see this world always through hearts that are drawn towards goodness to see the goodness in all those who are around them and within themselves and to never be those who elevate themselves by denigrating others to see the benefit in any challenge that comes their way and to not pass on a gift that can only be acquired through patience and perseverance help all of us, ya Allah to silence fear and abolish anxiety to overpower indifference and break away from greed to eliminate arrogance and defeat racism to be bold enough to ask of you to make us those who only do that which is good make us those who find real peace and real love and not just the semblance of it those who give real peace and real love and not just the facade of it make our motivation always selflessness, not selfishness sincerity and never self-centeredness because those who always follow goodness help us to be patient and forgiving and to always visit the sick to respect our elders and to give of our wealth to be just in all of our dealings and to be honest and trustworthy to be gentle and loving and to take care of those who are in need to always love for others what we love for ourselves help us to speak good and only good and to otherwise be silent to respect and honor all human beings irrespective of their religion, color, race, gender, language, status property, birth, profession or class make us those who remember always the sacrifices that others made so that we could be where we are today make not the pursuit of this world our goal but let our goals be for the best in the next world help us to sustain everything that we have learned in these hours that we have spent together and to share what it is that we take from this place to all those that we will meet give us confidence that helps us to see our strengths as well as our weaknesses and protect us from arrogance which lets us only see weakness in the world around us give us the courage to reach our potential and protect us from the fear that keeps us from doing so let our goal be gradual and consistent and help us to strive every day even if it is very little enrich our lives with the richness of our souls grant us companionship that helps us to reach our best and keep us from companions that hold us back grant us friends who encourage us towards all that is good and keep us from friends who take us towards that which is not arrange our hearts with those hearts that are gentle and tender and make us amongst those whose presence brings benefit and relief make the Quran our guide and grant us a deep understanding of it make the sunnah our goal both inward and outward aspects of it make our prayer our anchor granting us the true sweetness that only salah and dua can make the best of our deeds the last of our deeds let us not leave this world other than an estate that is most pleasing to you Ya Allah accept our dua Ya Allah accept our dua Ya Allah accept our dua Ya Allah by the barakah of this gathering accept our dua Ya Allah by the presence of the righteous that are here accept our dua Ya Allah by the sincerity of the most sincere that are here accept our dua a special dua Ya Rabb for our brothers and sisters at the Miftah Institute for all of our teachers who came and shared the stage for every volunteer who has given up their time as well as all those people who we might not ever think about Ya Rabb really know that they exist the people who put the chairs out that we're sitting in the ones who put out the tables in the cloth and served us the meals that we had those who cooked it with their hands all those who played a role in facilitating any part of this gathering Ya Rabb give to them only the best in this world and the best in the next and help us to truly understand Ya Allah that you put entire armies of people in motion just so we can be where we're seated at this moment how can we not recognize the love you have for us bless all of them Ya Rabbi protect us always from hearts that are not humble tongues that are not wise and eyes that have forgotten how to cry forgive us for our shortcomings and guide and bless us all Rabbana takabbal minna inna ka anta sem yul alim butub alayna ya maulana inna ka anta tawab al raheem wa sallallahu ta'ala ala khairi khalkihi mohammadin wa alihi wa sahbihi ajma'een bi rahmatika ya ar-Rahman raheemin jazakum Allah khair wassalaamu alaikum warahmatullahi ta'ala wa barakatum


My name is Jimmy, his name is Jake, this is The Weekly Dumb, and speaking of unbelievably dumb, Jake, tell him what happened with the Seattle Mariners president yesterday. Jim, Kevin, Maither, Mather, don't care anymore, but an all-time weekly dumber, with his quotes to the Local Rotary Club. The Local Rotary Club, he sat down with the Bellevue Breakfast Club, I think that's what it was. And before they even asked questions in his opening remarks, he talked about service time manipulation, which every buddy does, but no one has come out and just openly set it onto a recorded video. He laughed about how overvalued their TV contract is, says, yeah, we're getting way too much money from those idiots. It's business. He talked about how he offers contracts to players that undervalue them.  He mocked two foreign language players for not being able to speak a second. That's unreal. What's going on with you in the word? Second language. Second language. And we're over here having trouble with the first. And then he just openly talked about player strategy.   Each quote is better than the next. And when I say better, I mean worse. And it's almost impossible, but he did it at the Local Rotary Club. Local Rotary Club. Jim, this week's almost a breakdown. We have one of your specialties, the sackbunt. The Japanese jumping sackbunt. A little leaguer in Japan got the bunt sign. The runners on second and third are in motion. The pitch is way high, way outside. Jumps up, leaves the box, releases one hand off the bat, still puts it in play, gets the sackbunt down, gets the RBI. The good news is he probably felt really cool doing that. That's a badass little athletic play. It's not as athletic as you think.  You just kind of got to put the bat up there and pray a little bit, but that was my gift. The bad news is, Jake, if he just lets that ball go to the backstop, the runner on third scores, the runner on second moves to third. He gets to continue hitting, he's not out. He doesn't want that though, Jim. You got to think what's going on here. A little bit low IQ play. He wants to put it in play. You want to prove you can do that. When I played men's hockey, men's league, if the puck was in the air, I'd always bat it out of the air with my stick. They'd call high sticking and replay, and be like, why did you do that? And I say, because I need to prove to my dad that I can hit a baseball. Because I can. The good news is he gets an RBI. So, I mean, he could've got another RBI if he stayed up and then the runner on third is there. He could've just done the same thing on a better pitch, the next pitch and got another, they would score two runs, whatever. Good job, little kid. Let's stay in sports, Jake. What else happened? Jim, some NFL quarterback news. Cam Newton gets heckled at his own camp.  Carson Wentz got traded to Indy. Good for him. The real story is the golf, Jim. I know we're not normally a golf company. We're getting there. Max Homa, local boy, wins the Genesis Golf Classic Tournament of Champions from there. And he hits two incredible shots. Also missed the putt that could've won it easily. Sorry, Tony Fino. He said in his post game that he grew up watching this tournament every year and I was like, the Genesis? Yeah. You watch this every year?  And then it's his hometown. LA. He went there and watched it in person and tried to get high fives from Tiger Woods when he was a little kid. Now Tiger Woods handing him the trophy. That's pretty cool. I like that. The tree shots all the time. The tree shot is amazing and I wish that we could have his brain miked up because I would love to hear the mindset that he was talking to himself. Like, was he amped up? Like, yeah, this is my shot.  They don't even know what they're about to see.  I think he's, I think that's the full circle movie moment. He's been waiting for that shot his whole life and it's awesome. Cuts to a flashback of his dad just putting every ball by a tree. I don't want to hit next to the tree, dad! You need to! Max Homo's British. As dad was. Let's step away from sports for a second, Jim and do some not sports. Not sports, a plane. The engine blew up and then all the engine parts flew out of the sky over Denver. There's videos of a woman on a soccer field and just plane bits are flying out of the sky. Black things coming out of crash landing and parking lot in a soccer field. The ring of the engine fell off. It's huge and it landed on a dude's truck in his driveway, which is awesome.  Glad no one got hurt.  Everyone's safe. Would it like truck guy to get hurt a little bit then I know he's getting paid for life? Big daddy effect. Interesting to see where it actually lands at. And you know what, Jim? You mentioned this with the ring of the plane. I love stuff that's sneaky bigger than you think. Like you ever see a traffic light and you're like, this is massive. Yes. Same thing with plane parts. Fire hydrants are like 20 feet long. I don't know about that. Not confirmed. Good job by the pilot. Good job by the person filming. Person who filmed the engine at the steadiest hand ever. That dude's not scared of death at all. You guys seen this? It was very steady. It was very steady. For like an all time panicky moment. Very steady filming. I think that guy's pretty happy with death. So you have him as a culprit? No, no, no, no, no. Oh my God, you think he said it on fire? I have him at grips with death. Oh, okay. So when that was happening, he's like, oh, look at this. Oh, if I'm gonna go, this is the hell of a way to do it. Oh, you did pop it. Let's go. It's the employee of the week. It's the employee of the week. You know what? Our editor, Zach, was gonna get employee of the week. But he's not. Because the fellas at Pinstripe Strong interviewed Luis Severino yesterday. And that's just a huge get for them. I'm very excited. Check out Pinstripe Strong. If you're a Yankees fan, check out Luis Severino. A little Spanish in there. So I don't understand 15% of what they said. And I hope that part was awesome. Because I don't know what I don't speak the second language. And that's on me. Shout out to the McFly crew. Shout out to Ant jumping in, helping producing. And yeah, it's a really good interview unless you're the Seattle Mariners Kevin May there. Cause two languages, huh? And sorry to Zach, who got got.  Oh, cool guy. That was a weekly done.


Stay hydrated, Q&A answering all your questions. We got a leg day, so I'm gonna hit some squats and a couple accessories. I literally don't even want big legs. My legs grow too fast, but you gotta do it. Stay tuned, all the questions are answered from Sal and Mike, 2K's on Instagram and Twitter, so follow me there. Join the Discord if you guys want exclusives. Goodcompanydiscord.com and I'm gonna answer your questions right now. Those questions kind of blow my mind cause like I never really been motivated.  Is your goal to be fitter, stronger, more jack? Here are the steps to get there. If you don't actually want it, which we're seeing a lot of folks come out thinking it's cool to lift weights or it's cool to have a following on the internet, that's kind of like extrinsic, not very real, not rooted motivation or inspiration or goals, you might not be able to last. Not you in particular who's asking the question, I hope you do, but you know, the ultimate goal is that you find something that you truly love, that you really want to do, a goal that you want to achieve and then you build a plan for it and then you execute for it and then you show up. It really is that simple. If you don't want to get stronger, if you don't want to be more jacked then you don't care about your health. Maybe it ain't for you, could it? I guess being injured, it's understandable that you don't feel as stoked, right? Because you're incapable of training how you'd like to train, but what can you do now?  So if you hurt your knee, okay, what's the new goal? Let's get this knee healthy to get back to where I want to be and then now you have your new goal, your new plan, your new execution, your new things to show up for.  I've done this for over 15 years, I'm always hurting but you make adjustments and then you focus on the new goal, the new plan, the new execution, rather than just sitting there.  How can we get better today? What are the small things I can do every single day now to get back to where I was or beyond? It's obviously a struggle because it's a change in habit and a change in routine and change in comfortability and you have to make conscious decisions every day.  That's all like the easy stuff. When you have to like disrupt your pattern, it becomes difficult. So the truth is like, is it your real goal? Why are we considering this such a struggle? It's much different to get to like 10 to 15% body fat for a guy, you know, dropping 10, 20, 30 pounds or a lady getting to 15, 20, 25% body fat, dropping 10 to 15 pounds versus like stepping on stage to win the Olympia, right? These are totally different conversations. And I hate that guy that's nitpicking at folks that says like, oh, I have to work out today rather than saying I get to work out today. But there is a lot of truth in that positive self-talk in the conversations you're having in your head.  Oh, that's what Mikey would have done, but Mike's doing this. Mikey would have had that cake. Mike's going to go eat a salad.   That's like a little psychological tip you can maybe use. But the truth is, if you build your habits and if you truly want this goal, then let's get after it, you know? We can sit and whine and again, like the other guy being injured. Look, trust me, I've been injured and I've had struggled with my dieting. It's not that I don't have empathy for you all, but are we going to have a pity party or are we just going to get it done? Sometimes work just has to get done.  You nerds try to come after me because I don't write a script in a PowerPoint project with the literature out while I'm doing these videos and sometimes I speak in exaggerations to get a point across where I said you'll make 30 to 50% more gains by training your body parts more than once a week where the other guy is like, actually the study shows it's only a 3% gain which is literally incorrect. Show me the evidence, but on some basic shit, right? You do arms once a week with the old bro split.  Carry the one, move the decibel. Now we're going to do two arm days a week at 52 weeks a year. Now we're at 104 arm workouts. On top of that, the bigger deal is that let's say if volume is perfectly evenly distributed. So I do two sets of two exercises on bicep once a week.  Or I do that twice a week and split it. So I do one set of two exercises and one set of two exercises. The point is that you'd be able to use more weight and more effort when you have a two day split in between those. That's only if the volume is perfectly equated. The bigger benefit is that not only do we get to go harder because we're going twice a week with the rest in between, but we also get to add volume because I'm doing more work within each session, right? Even if you go balls to the wall, old school bodybuilding and you're doing three exercises with a bicep three to 10 sets of three for 10 reps once a week. You can easily do that twice a week or just cut it one set off each day and do two sets of 10 each day. Now you have, again, you do the math, 104 sessions, three good exercises rather than 52 sessions with three good exercises. I think that made sense. Either way, you get more effort in because you're recovered more by doing it twice a week. You get to add more volume because obviously we're just having a whole nother day. And then you get to choose a variety of exercises and you can maybe enjoy the process. So like today, I get to do medium, moderate sets of three to five on squat and then my other squat day because it's our leg day, it's more hamstring focus. I'll handle a heavy single for funsies. So what was the original question? Should you do it twice a week? Yeah. If you're a strength athlete, you probably want to do it more times a week and I'm going to talk about biceps, but the lifting, the movements themselves are a skill. And so to distribute the volume evenly so you can manage fatigue while still getting in practice with the squat bench dead is really important. But even if you're trying to build muscle, training a body part two to three times a week is much superior than once a week. What habits you focus on while cutting? That's a pretty good question. You know, I think what habits to focus on are slightly individual depending on what's stopping you from cutting, right? For some people that may be alcohol that may be going out on the weekends and having three, four beers on Friday and Saturday with the boys or the girls. For some, they may be staying up too late, playing video games. Y'all on that war zone two, which is an absolutely trash game up to 3 a.m. getting bodied with your 0.8 KD, no one cares. Another one could be snacks. You could, every day from home from work, you could be at the office meeting Julie at the coffee station outside your cubicle slamming two donuts before you blinked your eye and then on the way home grabbing some taquitos from 7-Eleven, which is absolutely disgusting way to spend your calories. So a lot of it will depend on the habits that you have subconsciously or consciously built that are slowing down your progress to build muscle and to lose fat. For me, a little one is door dash. I stop using door dash every time I cut. I make pretty good decisions when I door dash. I'm doing Chipotle or other high protein meals but it's just higher calories. One, I save a little bit of money and then two, I just tend to overeat when I do those things. So I tend to go home cooked route is 95% of the time when I'm cutting. I already don't drink. I cut that habit out a long time ago. I do enjoy a little wine and beer but I'll probably have it twice a year max. It could be some people's habits could be getting their exercise in. So maybe you have to sign up for a new class to build that habit. Maybe you have to find a new gym buddy to start the habit. Maybe you have to buy a new gym outfit and gym membership to start that habit. So much depends on what you need. If it's getting water in instead of calorie drinks maybe you need to buy yourself a cool new water bottle that you can carry around and get a little bit excited about and start that new habit. I forgot what they say but it's like two to three weeks to engrave a habit. So just start marking it out. Dive in, get yourself 20 days of exactly what you need to do and afterwards it'll become much, much easier. Ladies and gentlemen, hopefully you enjoyed it. Q&As I'll do on Instagram here and answer those guys. So something like with two K's there. But a lot of times it's easier, more, I think educational, more fun to do it here just cause I can answer in depth where on there dude, Instagram hates me. YouTube be hating us too sometimes. So do us a favor, share this thing out, like, subscribe, comment below. These old channels are getting beat up by the algorithm. So join me on Instagram, join me here. Hope you guys learned a little something man. We over me be a part of something bigger yourself. For all the clothing you see, for the highest quality gym gear on the game. New drops coming real, real soon. So goodcompanydiscord.com. Appreciate you all so much. Catch you in the next one.


the session. This is Professor Farhad and this session we will work on translation, a financial statement, and specifically we're going to be looking at the current method. Now, if you don't know what the current method is or if you're confused about the current, what is the current method, please go off part one of two in which I explain when to use the current method and when to use the temporal method, which is translation versus remeasurement. This topic is covered in an advanced accounting course or international accounting course also covered on the CPA exam. These lectures can be found on my YouTube as well as on my farhadlectures.com. So what I'm going to do first, I'm going to go over a list of items, which is I went over in the prior session, but today we're going to work an actual example to show you how the current rate method work, which is the translation method. Okay, so under the current rate method, here's what we do. If you don't have the slide, by all means copy what's on the slide and we're going to see how it works. Assets and liabilities are translated at the current exchange rate, paid in capital historical rate beginning retained earning equal to ending balance of retained earning dividend are translated at the historical rate, revenues and expenses, we use the average technically for revenues and expenses, we're supposed to use what's in effect, but we cannot keep track of the exchanges from day to day. Therefore, we use the average. Remember the cumulative translation adjustment goes on the balance sheet. It's a balance sheet adjustment. So notice it's a balance sheet that goes into OCI. So current here, translation classification that goes into OCI. So the translation is OCI. So the best way to illustrate this is to work an example. Otherwise, we can just keep on talking about this, but if you don't see it in action, you don't know how this works. So we're going to be working with this company. We have two year balance sheet. We have the January 1st balance sheet for this company in December 31st, which is the beginning balance and the ending balance for two years. And we have assets, we have liabilities, we have equity, and we have the income statement. And those numbers are using the Swiss franc. Okay, so this is the Swiss franc. So basically what they're asking us is to basically using the current rate methods. So basically on January 2018, it's a U.S. based company purchased a controlling interest in grant management consulting located in Switzerland, and they given you the exchange rates as of the beginning of the year, the end of the year, which is the end of the year, is the current, because we are preparing the financial statement at the end of the year. The average is the average and the dividend declaration and payment date, this has to do with dividend. Translate the year and balance sheet and income statement of the foreign subsidiary using the current rate method. Now, although they're telling you using the current rate method, now, why are they using the current rate method? This is why, because we have a subsidiary, okay, in Switzerland, the subsidiary is in Switzerland, we are a U.S. company, we are right here. This is a U.S. company, okay, but they have a subsidiary in Switzerland, the subsidiary in Switzerland using the local currency. And what's the local currency in Switzerland? The Swiss franc. So if they're using the Swiss franc, therefore we use the current method. So they're not using the U.S. dollar, they're not telling us they're hyperinflationary and they're not using a third currency such as the euros. So they're using the local currency as their functional currency, and that's why we use the current method. This is just a review of why we use the current method, okay? So now what I'm going to do, I'm going to pull the information that's here, specifically I'm going to pull the balance sheet, I'm going to pull the income statement, put those on an Excel sheet, and you should have this information as well and show you how we are going to do the conversion using the current rate method. So let's go ahead and get started. Okay, let's go ahead and take a look at this Excel sheet. So with this Excel sheet what I did is I provided you with five steps that's going to help you with the translation process. So using the current method. So what's the step one? Step one, revenues or expenses are translated using the average rate. So revenues and expenses, the average rate. Let's go ahead and process this transaction. The average rate is 0.5654, 0.5654. So we're going to take the Swiss franc 75,000 times the exchange rate gives us the amount in US dollar. Swiss franc times the exchange rate gives us the amount in US dollar. Revenues minus expenses gives us net income in US dollar. Now, so we're done with step one. Step two, right here, we're going to take the beginning retained earning, which is the retained earning 1-1. What is this coming from? Just in case you're wondering, this is coming from the beginning retained earning, which is $10,000, which is the prior year retained earning. Okay, so we're going to take this beginning retained earnings, okay, and translate it at the beginning rate. And the beginning rate is 0.5987. So this is the beginning retained earning, $5,987. We're going to take beginning retained earning plus net income, beginning retained earning plus net income minus dividend. Now, we have to translate the dividend. The dividend is the dividend declaration date of 0.581. So equal to negative 7000, negative 8715. So $31,430 minus the dividend gives us the ending retained earning. And I hope you remember this. So you have to know this formula by heart. This formula you should have learned about in accounting 101. And what's that formula? Beginning retained earning plus net income minus dividend equal to ending retained earning. Now, in this problem, the information is given a little bit more clearly, but this is the formula that you might have to manipulate to figure out your ending retained earnings. So beginning retained earning plus net income minus dividend. Okay, hopefully, if you have three of them, you can find the fourth. So you have to deal with that type of situation. So if you're not familiar with this formula, make sure you get yourself familiar with it. Okay. So we're done with step one. Let's look at step three. Step three said paid in capital translated at us. So we're done with step two. Let me highlight step two and hopefully you covered step two. This is done. Step three, paid in capital translated at historical cost, paid in capital, which is common stock. The historical, which is 0.5987, which is 11,974. Then so we're done with this step. Okay. Then step four, all assets and liabilities translated at the current rate. The current rate is 1231, 2014. So that rate is 0.531 for property planted equipment, 0.531 for accounts payable and notes payable, 0.531. Okay. Now, basically, we're done with step four. Okay, we're done with step four. Now, here's what we have. We have assets of 48,953, which is our asset are complete. We know our assets were not missing anything. And remember assets should equal liabilities plus equity.  But the answer should be 48,953. What does that mean? It means we need to make an adjustment. And what's that adjustment? Well, that adjustment, it's going to reduce it. Basically, we have a loss here. Why? Because we have to reduce the adjustment is basically a debit to OCI. Why is it a debit to OCI? Because if we add liabilities and equity right now, take those three figures, $17,000, $27 for liabilities, $11,974 for common stock and $22,714 for retained earning gives us $51,000. This is why I have this one on the side, $51,000. But the balance should be 48,953. Therefore, the entry, the cumulative translation adjustment should be the difference between those two. And the difference between those two is, I'm going to make it negative, the difference between those two is, let me see, this minus, this is negative $2,763. And by doing so, now, if we add those four, notice the sum here. Whoops, notice the sum here. Okay, 48,953, which is equal now to 48,953 equal to the asset. I plugged it in before to know what do I need to do. So what I did now is I find my retained earnings. I still want to kind of verify this to myself. Again, we're using the current method because when you use the remeasurement method, it's a different method. Okay, so let's go ahead and prove to ourselves, basically, the adjustment. Okay, how do we do so? Well, what we do is this. First, we have to start with net asset position. And what is net asset? What is net asset? Well, it's asset minus liabilities net or simply put equity net position is simply put equity. But since they're using net asset is asset minus liabilities. Okay, so notice we'll start with asset minus liabilities asset minus liabilities. Okay, equal to 30,000 franc. And let me show you once again, just in case you're just like, hold on a second, where is this number coming from? Well, if you look at the beginning, the prior year, let me just highlight this. So equity is 30,000. What they did, they called it net asset and net asset is assets 60,000 minus liabilities of 30,000 equal to 30,000.  Okay, asset minus liabilities. Okay, so let's go back to the Excel sheet. So you start with this amount and you're go, we are going to convert it, we're going to go into converted at the beginning grade, because this is the beginning 1111 of the 11 at the beginning of the year, which is equal to 17,961. Then what happened is this, we're going to convert net income that income is 45,000. Hold on a second, where's that net income coming from? It's the net income of the company 45,000 based on the Swiss franc. Now we are going to convert net income at the average rate 0.5654. That's 25,443, which is net income that we computed earlier. We're going to convert dividend at the dividend rate, dividend rate of 0.581, which is 8,715. Now here's what we have right now. If we take the US dollar beginning net asset plus net income minus dividend, what they're telling us, we should have 34,000 net asset position translated using rate and effect at the date of the transaction. So this is what we have. So what's the 34,000? The 34,000 is what should be the net asset position, the net asset position using the rate, the effective rate, the effective rate at the date of the transaction. Well, do we really have 34,684 of net assets? Let's see how much net assets do we actually have? Well, if we take assets minus liabilities, minus asset liabilities, will give us 31,926. It should be grounding 927. So what happened is this, the exposed net asset at 1231, which we computed really, is equal to 31,927, or if you'd like to compute it, you could use the December 31st. So let me show you how I came up with this 31,927. So first I said, well, assets minus liabilities after I did the translation equal to 31,927. So this is net assets as of December 31st, or I can say net asset, which is given to us 60,000. Again, where is the 60,000 coming from? If I really want to see where is the 60,000 coming from? The 60,000 coming from here, 60,000. That's the equity, or I can say assets, 92,000 of assets, 92,000 of assets, minus 32,000 of liabilities. So my equity using the Swiss franc is 60,000. I already computed this anyway. I already computed it anyway. I just want to show you where it's coming from. So what I would do, I convert it at the ending rate and use convert at the ending rate, but you could always double check yourself. So if you convert at the ending rate, what you will find out is what you will do is you will find out that the net asset is 31,926. So we have a difference. Basically, we have to reduce, we have to take a loss and the loss take the difference between those two. The net asset translated using the current rate and our exposure of net asset that it's equal to 2007. Let me make it a negative. So this, you'll take this minus this and it's negative 2763. And this is what we kind of computed earlier. Let me just do this. If you remember here, 2763, 2763. Basically, it's a reconciliation, so we confirmed it. Okay. Hopefully, you were able to follow this is the current method. What I'm going to do is to illustrate the second method. And the second method is the remeasurement. And remeasurement, we use the temporal method, which is a little bit different. I'm going to have different steps and we'll go through the process. Part of this is you have to know the mechanics. Now, I don't want to go in there and start to talk about why it's this one way or the other. Like, basically, because there's a lot of mechanics here. And what you need to do first is get the mechanics down and add on your knowledge later on. If you have any questions, any comments about this example, email me. If you're studying for your CPA exam, by all means study hard. If you need more lectures, please go to my website. And if you happen to go on my website and you would like to contribute by all means contribute, it's highly appreciable. And always, always, always study hard. It's worth it. Good luck.