It's time for the Ravens to finally sign a pass Russia which undrafted rookie free agents Do you think will make the Ravens roster did the Ravens use Devin Duvenay like the Panthers did Curtis Samuel these and many many more questions on This episode of NFL questions from subscribers You two team keep it clean What's going on is engraving here with another video and another episode of NFL questions from subscribers Which is a series where you can ask me any NFL question One two based off of any NFL team and we answered in a video just like this if you want to be part of NFL question from Subscribers you can just send me an email to team keep it clean at gmail.com or for the patrons You can send it directly on patreon shout out to all the team keep it clean patrons appreciate y'all love y'all and Team keep it clean. Let's keep this thing moving This episode is just gonna be me So it does sometimes kind of feel weird when I do questions from subscribers and it's just me now Because we enjoy having a guest on a lot shout out to everybody That's been on already as a guest for question from subscribers and there will be more to come and there will be some repeat offenders So some people gonna come back to But I enjoy it man. I enjoyed and I just I love it So I love y'all we got some fire questions as we always do Let's do it first question came from a boy rainmaker. He said a engraving. Hope all is well in the land of the Florida Ravens Hey, I'm with it, man. Anyway, he's I got a question for you Do you think it's time to make a move for veteran past Russia? Ryan Kerrigan just signed with Philadelphia one past Russia off the board now I hope we make a move for either Houston or Ingram We need a veteran past Russia who opposing offenses have to account for and also give our new players time to develop I just wanted to hear your thoughts on the matter. Oh and like Ryan Kerrigan is with the Washington football team. I'm out Hey, um Is it time I think so but what the Ravens are doing I think the Ravens are just waiting and they're waiting and they're waiting and waiting and waiting Because every day that them past Russia's continue to be out there Bryce keeps on dropping and you know, the Ravens love them cheap deals Ravens. They don't shop at Target Raven shop at places like big lots Walmart and I mean, I shop in those places, too But Ravens when it comes to spending that money, they try to find the best bang for their buck and they look for the cheapest possible Deal, especially when it comes to free agents. So with Melvin Ingram, he visited the Dolphins yesterday Well, I'm recording this video on Tuesday, May 25th Melvin Ingram visited the Dolphins yesterday. Of course, like you mentioned Ryan Kerrigan. He is off the board now He's gone So that leaves Justin Houston Melvin Ingram Olivier Vernon So you still got a couple of options. So even if Melvin Ingram ends up signing with the Miami Dolphins You still have some options out there and again so far It's worked out with the whole Justin Houston thing because y'all remember and I am not afraid and afraid to admit it And I'd still go by it But if I felt like the Raven should have been signed Justin Houston So I feel like there was a chance that somebody else could pick him up And if there's a player right there and it's a good player and you know that player can make your team better You grab him. You don't worry about them complex, but Raven said no, no, no, we straight We're gonna wait and they waited and he still hasn't been signed yet.  There's pernil McPhee There's Jaylen Ferguson That would be something if they roll with that Like the they would turn from the Baltimore Ravens to from the Florida Ravens to the risky Ravens And if they just roll with the young boys that that would be something right there now And speaking of young boys My guy Rainmaker said I was just watching the new guys get their official jerseys away is wearing number 99 Maybe if he gets on the road this year his nickname could be 99 problems or the problem. Maybe it will stick Let's just hope he plays well. I can see the Ravens playing that Jay Z song when he gets to set We'll probably have to do a team keeping clean version though Yeah, make sure that thing is edited man Uh, but yeah, man, I do to sum it up. I do think that it is time Uh, but the Ravens have shown that they can actually still take their time and There's still got options out there. Next question came from my boy Gareth He said ain't graven. What undrafted rookie free agents. Do you think will make the 53 man roster? Thanks for everything that you have done really appreciate you and that's my question hashtag team keeping clean Shout out to my guy Gareth, man um I I really do the biggest one that I think has an opportunity Uh would be Ardarius Washington because the safety position nothing is set in stone Except for the starters. That's literally the the only ones who are safe so to speak Uh, the Sean Elliott and Chuck clock. That's it beyond that literally nobody is safe Not Anthony Levine not Jordan riches not Gino stone Nobody is safe So Ardarius Washington being a safety being a young safety than being a cheap safety He has a big opportunity here if he turns enough heads in practice and turns enough heads in training camp He could end up making the roster. He really could And he would cost less than all of they signed Gino stone to a one-year deal Excuse me. They signed Anthony Levine to a one-year deal. They signed Jordan riches to a one-year deal. What do one-year deals mean? means you're expendable It means that you you're not a long-term investment It means that the ravens or any team that signs you to a one-year deal They could move on anytime that they want to and there would be minimal financial harm So I think it would be Ardarius Washington Next question came from a boy general bomb 16 and shout out to him because I always see him in the comment sections I appreciate you man. He said ain't graven. It's been a while since I submitted a question Just didn't have much to say but I might do another 53 man roster prediction this year All right, he said hope you and the family are doing well now on to my topic for today trading with the Falcons Oh, yes, this is a good one. He said now. This is kind of a bait, but it's not really hoolio related Oh, it's about hating hearse. Oh, okay. You got me You you really got me because I was thinking. Okay. Let's keep going He said what would a proposed trade such as a third or fourth rounder plus boykin in exchange for hearse back Be an interesting plan One thing is one thing is that this could all be packaged along with a hoolio deal Where we get hoolio and hearse for boykin a first and some picks But stand on just boykin and hearse for now The falcons would probably like to keep hearse as part of their two tight end sets But with only one year left on hearse deal and after losing the second round picked to us The falcons may want some compensation back in the form of a third or a fourth rounder The addition or the added addition of boykin gives him a two-year player on a rookie contract that is pretty raw But we regular fans have seen the flashes and the change the scenery may help him with the higher volume of targets That he hasn't gotten in baltimore That's a good point too Uh, because yeah, we're boykin that we know he could we know he can do some stuff We we know he we know that he is capable of a lot But with the ravens, it's a far and few opportunity with boykin So it's it's hard for him to sort of get into a rhythm and hit that stride Uh, but anyway, he said, uh, there's also the added benefit in the fact that there's a high chance We don't keep seven wide receipts. Then they're not they they ain't keep there's no way to keeping those seven wide receivers Between pro shape and boykin boykin right now is just the number one blocking while receiving number five outside threat Pro shape I would say is decent and can be better at both slot and outside and is also a very good second returner for the team With trust already in the coaching staff So instead of cutting boykin or pro shape and losing them to waivers when we want them on a practice squad I think that's how it works Yeah, that is they were at least a player and hope that nobody picks them up Like you said on waivers and then they could sign them back to the practice squad. So you're right about that So instead of doing that They keep pro shape and get a player back in return for boykin and a pick for a very good player In Hearst to reunite with the three headed monster at tight end The Falcons after losing Julio can get back a pick for Hearst and get back boykin Who has a the body frame to where he can possibly develop into a solid number two a number three Wide receiver that can be utilized in Arthur Smith's scheme to block as a big body wide receiver Whoo, this was something right here. Um I don't see it happening though I don't see it happening Because Hearst Hearst, I mean the Falcons they obviously got Hearst's contract. They got his rights or whatever But Hearst wouldn't want to come back here And I don't see the Ravens For somebody that they gave up to acquire picks. I don't see them giving picks up to acquire that person back Ravens usually they don't usually do too many reunions Especially trade like okay. We traded you away. Let's trade back for you They don't normally do that now having Hayden Hearst here would be great It would be great But I think right now it's just it's just gonna be a dream and it's gonna remain that way Now if the Ravens traded with somebody else from the Falcons No, I wouldn't mind that and it's crazy because before if y'all remember months ago months before free agency started Well, not months because the season ended in like February But before free agency started when there were initially rumors about Julio Jones being on the outs in Atlanta We did a question from subscriber video and I was just like no I just nope But that was when I thought it may be a worth the first round pick to acquire Julio because I was like no I wouldn't give up a first rounder for Julio. I wouldn't and even for a second round. I was like Maybe but then for a third, okay, that wouldn't be so bad It might be a second but third third and lower that that'll be much better Um, because Julio was older. You've been banged up a lot. Oh, but now My tune on that head. Well, my tune hasn't changed because I don't even think anybody's gonna give up a first rounder for Julio And of course the story came out that The Falcons wanted a first rounder for Julio, but nobody bit on that and now it's out there that the Falcons They won a second rounder, but you know what that means when it's publicly out there that the team wants a certain draft pick That means they're trying they're trying for that that pick But they know that most likely nobody's gonna give that up So now I'm with them getting Julio all day Because you wouldn't have to give up a first rounder. You wouldn't have to give up a second rounder It starts at at the third it starts in the third so Julio is there for the taking now man, and again what what he would do for this team man He would take us like we improved or a wide receiver group improved Uh, but he would give us that known factor that like you know Julio you like you know You know what he can do There's some guys that we wonder what they can do we think about what they can do and we hope That they can do but with Julio, you know All right next questions came from my boy Chris and my guy Lance So far as Chris said, what's up in Graven? Hope all is well with you and the fam I just saw on ESPN that the Cardinals are considering reconstructing the Andre Hopkins contract in order to make a push for Julio Jones I don't think that was it. I think the Andre Hopkins just put it out there on twitter on social media and stuff That he would be willing to do that. I don't think the the Cardinals said they were but You never know at the same time But anyway, you see my question is do you think that the Raven should make the same push for Julio? Even though we already have weapons and maybe give up say a first round pick and maybe send them miles Breaking just a thought I was wondering what you might be thinking take care. Um with that um A first round to know I don't think a first round it would even be necessary Uh a second rounder though I think a second rounder could definitely get it done because the second rounder will be something more than what they would Be expecting to get for Julio Jones. Um, and then he said miles working as well. Oh, man So why does everybody want to get rid of miles working? um Our wide receiver room would be crowded no doubt And again, whoever that whoever would be the odd man now like it's already going to be like some odd men out Right now, uh because the room is a little bit crowded Uh, but you adding to Julio Jones and it's definitely going to be some odd men out and even more Uh, so who that would be? I'm not even sure but uh lands lands this question Uh, he said, uh, is it possible that the ravens trade trace McSorley in a package for Julio Jones? I think this would be a good move a good trade because trace when he came to the ravens I think he went three or four no in the preseason He has a potential he just needs a team and I think it's time for the ravens to go I mean for the falcons to go into rebuild mode and ravens can trade some of those receivers if they get Julio trade Trade is no offense to trace at all, but I don't think trace adds any value uh to a Julio Jones trade. Um I mean, yeah, it could be a nice backup quarterback for matt ryan. Who knows how long matt ryan has left As a falcon and just as a starting quarterback. I mean, he obviously got some juice left in him but um, I don't think trace really moves the needle when it comes to a Julio Jones trade Um, so I I mean they could they could add him in a package But I don't think that would really be the deal breaker or the deal maker for the Atlanta falcons Next question came from a boy bullet eight tracks. He said ain't graven. Love the videos I wanted to ask do you think it'll be a good idea if the ravens used even duvenate like carolina? They would cut his samu. I mean, well, let me let me finish the question first I would you rather have that duvenated be used like samu or be just a strict wide receiver And which one do you think would be the best for the ravens? Love the veers and keep up the great work Appreciate it, man. All right, and he's also somebody else that I always see in the comment section So I appreciate it a lot. I feel like they already do I feel like they actually use him more as a running bag than a wide receiver Because again, you know, devon duvenay. We haven't mentioned in a long time, but He was the jet sweep king. He was a jet sweep king. That's what they use them for jet sweep jet sweep jet That's that's it and of course the kick returns and punt returns too But I I would just like to continue to see him use but I would like to see him be using the passing game too Not just on it. Not just on the jet sweeps. You can incorporate this guy in so many different ways He's low to the ground. I think he's like 510, but he's built for it and he got some nice speed So you could throw him some screen passes. It'd be nice if ravens implemented the screen game into their offense That'd be a beautiful thing Continue your jet sweeps, but it doesn't you don't have to like I hate when we when we see devon duvenay on the field when we saw number 13 And we saw him go in motion. We we just knew what was coming We knew what was coming and it'd be like and sometimes he'll work now But still it's like come on. Let's let's do some more with this guy um, but So I just I just want to see him be used period Period and I know it's going to be a lot of people ahead of them This year, but I just I just really want to see him used Period and not just on the jet sweeps next question came from my boy. Greg re-e. He said good afternoon How would you feel if the ravens offered Richard Sherman a contract to play free safety? It's obvious he lost a step to play cornerback But the man has extreme football intelligence and he has a great nose for the football He is more than capable to wear the green dot and I believe he would add leadership to that defense go ravens um, if they did that I wouldn't be mad But Richard Sherman he he wasn't his saying all you mad Is you mad?  Whatever he said to tom brady that time? But I think I would have to ask him the same thing. Are you mad?  Because that's what he would be now the ravens They definitely have packages where they have three safeties on the field all at once and they move their safeties around a lot So he would definitely get his playing time, but would he be willing to be the backup? I mean at this point with training camp coming up right around the corner Uh, it may be the only way It really might be um, but yeah, he'd certainly would add some leaderships of veteran presence and just a football football sports Football sports. Um, so I wouldn't be mad at it. I definitely wouldn't be mad at it And and he could of course help the young guys as well But even just because I know a lot a lot of veterans they like that's not their job though, man The veterans job ain't just to help the young guys. They want to play They want to play so I know a lot of us can get caught up and and automatically when we think about a veteran player coming on Oh, yeah, he helped the young guys. He could teach this guy that teach that No, they they're still trying to cut their checks, too They're still trying to cash their checks, too. So with that being said, um I wouldn't be opposed to it And I think it'll be a little cool move, but how how much of a step has he lost? And do we need somebody that lost a step in the secondary? Well, he lost step as a corner, but as a free safety, you get to see the whole field And again, yeah, like you said, he does have that knowledge. So yeah, I wouldn't be mad if they did that The next question on this episode of question from subscribers came from my boy Aiden. He said, hey, how's it going engraving? Hope you and the family doing good. Why are people sleeping on Alejandro like he's a bad dude? Yes, he's older, but he still does well and run blocking He made a good point at the presser on a pads heavy offense with the stillers It takes a lot of stress on your body over the course of the game Pass rushes can get a rhythm on you if you pass in 12 times in a row And someone like Miles Garrett is lining up against you and he has 50 to 60 snaps to attack every single angle of your body And try different moves for a lineman It takes some strain off of you if you incorporate the run and it gives them time to recover So my question is this there's some good points, uh without run heavy offense, can Villanova or via Nueva? Shout out to my guy, uh, but can he my guy Augusto He said can he do more than just fine? I think so. Sorry for the long question Just something that not many people are talking about And I'll yeah, definitely for sure because again, he'll be in a run heavy offense and that's a lineman's dream Like I know my guy Cam Neal. I know he he will he will always point it out That it's a much better feeling when you go into attack rather than you got to sit back and wait to be attacked Because as a lineman if you run blocking Oh, you going going to go chase them defensive lineman and you go looking to go find somebody to knock out But if you pass blocking which I mean lineman obviously have to do both But if you just pass blocking you pass blocking over and over and over you got to wait And you're protecting your quarterback, but you got to wait for them to come to you So it just it makes it a lot not necessarily an easier situation, but a better situation for the lineman Uh with the variety The the variety certainly helps But with if you just strictly passing passing passing like you did mention that he mentioned That is some very very good points that I didn't even think about how you said he uh the pass rusher They can find different ways to line up against you and then they can attack every single angle of your body So they can try to go high on you. They could try to go with a ball rush They can go with this little swim. They could try different stuff And they could be trying all these different maneuvers and techniques and whatnot And then they get in there practicing against you because y'all ain't doing nothing but passing So it definitely helps to uh have a a good balance of both Next question came from a boy ronald. He said ain't graven quick question with the raven's not drafting a tight end Do you think they'll run a two tight end setup like last year to force them all to target receivers? Or is this due to the fate that they have in jake abreeland for the new tight end? They traded for or or the new tight end they traded for hope this year so far going well Keep going with the content appreciate that. Um I I certainly think they'll run with three tight ends, but I think that just they I don't I think it's a lack of faith in that third tight end So they trying to find who that third tight end is going to be ravens have like eight tight ends on the roster right now They got a lot man. They have uh mark andrew's nick boyle those two obviously locks But after that it's up in the air because they have josh oliver who they traded for from the jaguars They have jake abreeland who was hurt last year and still hurt right now. They have wolf Um from last year they signed eric tomlinson So that's six. Uh, they got uh, tony, uh, I want to say paulian the undrafted rookie free agent And and they drafted ben mason He's a fullback slash. So they have eight. They literally have eight tight ends on the roster right now So they got some decisions to make next question came from a tail He said after looking back to when that press got had that severe injury I realized he got nothing but love and respect after it I try to think what type of response from the media Lamar would get if he had the same injury and I don't think it would be the same Especially if it happened on a running play So the question is do you think lamar would get the same treatment that that got if he had the same injury? And if the media would likely blame it on him being a mobile quarterback Uh and say much love and keep up the amazing ravens content appreciate that matel Oh, you already know the answer to this question. You you already know that's a that's a definite new That's a definite no because even if it happened on a play where he was not running The media would still diverted and be like oh even though he was standing in the pocket No, the reason why it happened is because he run so much Straight up. You already know how that would go. It wouldn't be any shocker either It would be frustrating, but it wouldn't be surprising whatsoever because they would find a way To blame it on that even though that wasn't even the cause for it The last question on this episode question from subscribers came from a boy antoine He said ain't graven. How are you my brother? My name is antoine been following the channel And I love what you're doing for our purple and black. I appreciate you, man He said be more in the building now to my question Do you think with the offense and the defense we can see the same impact that the legion of boon Had uh with the seattle seahawks If we improve our play calling this upcoming season Do you think we can take that approach with our offense and defense and let me know what you think um, no not at all Because that defense was absolutely Locked down like nothing was getting past them They were just They were killing it and ravens defense is good But as we continue to go on more and more and more into this era of football Playing defense is just that much harder every single year becomes that much harder The rules continue to benefit the offense. This is another reason why ravens They need to up this offense because they need to take advantage of the era that we're in So but the penalties benefit the offense the rules benefit the offense to everything benefits the offense man everything So I don't really see anybody really being that legion of boon type of defense at all Um because the legion of boon they had a strong run game, uh with seattle seahawks, which ravens obviously have But their defense was even stronger than their run game was their defense was everything man And I just I don't see that for this team right now Not that that that's a bad thing that not and not that I think the defense is going to be bad Because you know ravens going to take care of defense, you know the defense is going to be straight um, but I just don't see them as this absolute lockdown defense now they got a secondary for it now Uh and at linebacker they got smarts. They got speed. They they got the lightning and the thunder They got all that now pass rush. That's a little bit questionable right now Let's do some question mark stare, but we'll see how it all ends up But as far as legion of boon status, no, I don't see


All the questions that are coming in I'm trying to keep up and so will somehow get your questions answered if not tonight We'll get you answers One of the questions patty that is kind of on it a lot of people's mind is what is your status now? And do you still have same-sex attraction and how do you like identify yourself? Man, you're gonna wish you weren't here. I identify myself right now with one word menopause This room is brutal man talk about knowing you're a woman Wow So I Identify as as a as a Christian. I do not identify as a gay Christian I believe that's really Dangerous to identify as a gay Christian people identify that way because they say they still have same-sex attraction but I Love what do you guys are you guys familiar with Rosaria Butterfield? Listen to what she said When she was being interviewed by Elisa Children's who's awesome as well. Where did my wife? I go did that go out with the heat? I mean the air Sorry Yeah Remember that remember the little no internet connection. So Let me find it under my notes. She said This is what she said when asked About gay identity The cross does not make an ally with the sin it crushes. Isn't that good posted it? The cross does not make an ally with the sin it crush it crushes if I would have kept any part of my gay identity It would have held it would have It would have had a held a grip on me still and I probably would have been back in the life when I walked into that church that day and cried out to God and said father forgive me of my sins Jesus be my lord and savior Fill me with your holy spirit. I knew I was giving him everything but listen I didn't get saved so that I could have opposite sex attraction I didn't get saved. So someday I could have a husband that thought Just disgusted me when I got saved I got saved because I realized God was real and that he loved me and I wanted every bit of God that I could possibly get and amen and So when I first got saved I happened to have the honeymoon phase I know not everybody gets a honeymoon phase. They go right into trials. I had a honeymoon phase So there wasn't a lot of thought about Same sex attractions but then when I started asking God the questions about where did it come from and The memory of the the sexual abuse came up and some of this stuff came up It was so hard that my thoughts were let's go back to your comfort zone Yeagermeister Miller light line of coke All at the gay bar down the street But I didn't instead what I did is I got flat on my face and cried out to God and said God I Want that Because I know how that feels But I want you more actually I'm not sure if I do my lips are saying I want you more and my heart is saying I want that more will you hear the prayer of my lips Instead of my heart and will you make my heart and lips eventually come together and he did it's about obedience you guys Jesus laid down his life for me So I was willing to lay down every aspect of my life for him and I didn't I'm not missing out on anything I've gained everything. I know how to have relationships with women now now that are are good A lot of people think homosexuality is not knowing how to to be with the opposite sex. It's not It's not knowing how to be with the same sex in the right way I was longing for things in women that I I didn't get in other ways because of family circumstances that I didn't get into tonight But but now I was I was growing in friendships with women at church and learning how to have real friendships without sex being involved So am I attracted to men? No, but I'm attracted to my brothers. You guys are awesome I used to be the the person walking down the street holding my girlfriend's hand And if a if a sidewalk if a guy was walking toward us and even glanced at us I would jut out my chest and spit at his feet. Oh, what are you looking at? Like with all this narrowly face and hopefully that's not the pictures you got when you guys were taking pictures But But I hated men and it took me a little bit after getting saved To to really be able to feel safe and in a room with men But you know what I did though the women that I was becoming friends with I told them I don't like men and I know I need to will you invite me over to your house when your husband's home? So I can learn what it's like to be around men that won't hurt me And and they did these men are my brothers now. I trust them And it took some things took a long time. I travel. I mean I traveled for Ten years now something like that. I've been in ministry.  We're trying to win them to Jesus It's like we're not trying to make somebody sober You know, we're trying to you know, we're trying to get them to know their value in Christ more than anything I will say, you know, I came from a great church and I was at this church for 18 years before I Moved out here, but you know in the first year when I was at church It was only a couple of women would just come up to me and be like, oh You're so pretty when you look great with earrings, you know Or what you look great with this and you know, you're amazing. God's got a husband for you someday and Inside I was like well if that's the case I don't want to stay walking with the Lord because my idea of a husband was abuse and So we can't don't put things on people. Please don't put things on people. Don't try to fix people You can't who I mean this nicely. Remember. I love you Who do you think you are trying to fix somebody at church or your child people don't need to be fixed. They need to be redeemed This question says I'm not a parent But how do I approach this subject with kids in the family of both younger kids as well as tweens and stuff So how? Not a parent, but round kids a lot awesome. Thanks for for asking that question I would say ask questions knowing understanding though that that As long as you you have permission or it's appropriate, you know if their nieces or nephews or whatever as long as it's cool with Their parents, you know have just to have conversations like hey what's it like it's at school and You know, I know I know when we were doing this the other day, you know We saw we saw a couple that was was two women together Like how do you what do you think about that like is does anybody talk about that at schools or anybody like that at school? What kind of curriculum are you learning at school? I just want to know what you're you're learning and what you think about all this stuff So I can talk to you about it and so that we can pray together about it And if you have any questions, I'm here for you But it's a little bit different to start that conversation when you're not their parent unless you have that permission from parents, but if you have that desire and Maybe pray about getting involved in youth work Kids are awesome. I mean when I have Q&A's with with the kids I just it's like wow. I've never been asked that question before that's great, but Yeah, that's our youth love you Hey, can we hang out tomorrow? Yes. All right you know speaking of that we had some of you might know but a young man in our youth group passed away recently we're doing his memorial service on Friday and sorry the day we Told our youth group Patty was here doing a training that afternoon And she came early to help us minister and so just super thankful for that this question Patty It's probably the one of the bigger questions. I think we're at 30 something questions right now, but you kind of mentioned it about like Getting involved, you know, if you're your son or daughter has a relationship already, but Invited like let's say the age will quit if we're invited to a wedding or if we're invited to a gathering with same-sex Attraction or maybe it's a same-sex wedding or something like that. What's your thoughts on us either attending or?   It's a little bit different some Speedos and stuff if they have a pool in the backyard and in some interesting things going on So that might not feel be comfortable for you now. That's not everybody, but listen. I lived it. I was Adam It's a lot Going to a gay wedding. My answer is I don't know There's a lot more to that though.  I don't know I say ask and pray and ask the Lord to show you are you gonna show him? Bring God more glory by going or not going and ask him my opinion is no My opinion is certainly no to the ceremony because you're coming into agreement With what these two people are doing coming together and so I asked I would have to ask you Where do you set your boundaries? And I know it's hard when it's your kid, but if your kid was Going to marry someone that was a wick in or believed in in Satanism and that's what their wedding was going to be Would you go to that? Like what are your boundaries? now when Again, this is my opinion and I've been asked and I always and I pray But every time I ask God when it comes to should I go to this reception because I won't go to the wedding or the ceremony Should I go to the reception? I always get the same answer from the Lord if I go. I'll be deceiving them. I Lived in deception for 36 years. I don't want to deceive anybody and So it's it's the conversations I've had to have both ends myself and the other people were weeping crying and it was it was like But look I know your ministry. I know what you do. I know what you believe you won't be deceiving me And this is what I say Two things are gonna this is going to affect our relationship Either way whether I go or whether I don't go but if I go I'm gonna be disobedient to God and It's gonna affect our relationship in a bad way because of my sin And I love you too much to let my sin my disobedience affect our relationship I would rather be obedient to God and Let him minister to you because he will whether you believe in him or not Let him minister to you and hopes that My being obedient to God and in waiting till afterwards and getting together with you guys after you come back from your honeymoon I'm willing to trust that God will do something within our Relationship that that will still be able to be together relationally and both times it has been that way You know last week I was cleaning out my office because they painted it and I found a Bible college book that I had and it was it said the complete guide to youth culture And that was from like the 1990s, so I threw it away So for those who don't know I've been the youth minister here at the high school for 22 years and Been in youth ministry even longer, so I've seen a lot of changes and With my age and stuff. I mean, you know Be honest, right? Some of us guys may be like if a guy looked at you you make a fist like bro Don't look at me, right? So then we become Christians were supposed to be loving so I guess the question is You you mentioned about like with a parent to to a teen Or to their child about making sure you're stoic and making sure you're relatable and listening But for all of us, I guess as believers our approach to loving sharing not showing hatred Discord whatever how would you direct us in that? I don't know if I'm fully understanding what you're so a Make it a short question because my brain stops after a couple too many words Drugs at 12 Not a lot there a lot of times the church is more like the Bible says so there Okay, so all truth and not enough grace So so Warren Wearsby says Lord help me to get this right Warren Wearsby says a truth Without grace without truth is hypocrisy truth wait truth without All right, you guys help me out Grace without truth is hypocrisy and truth without grace is brutality. Yeah truth without grace is brutality And grace without truth is hypocrisy. So we have to have a balance of both Jesus and John 1 14 is described as being full of Grace and truth and if Jesus you like this water this bottle can be filled with orange juice and filled with water It's impossible But Jesus was filled with both grace and truth and if he's filled with grace and truth Then we can be because we have the spirit of the living God in us and so I'm constantly Praying I even as he was asking that question I was praying and I prayed Lord will you give me every spiritual gift needed for this time? I said for this answer But will you give me every spiritual gift needed for this conversation for with this person in this moment? And I'm gonna do that if you guys stay and want to talk personally afterwards I'm gonna do that with each one of you that come up because I don't know Some people are gonna need a little more grace when we talk to them Some people it's gonna be grace grace grace grace grace grace truth Some people might have had 20 graces by the time they get to us So it might be grace truth truth truth Jude says some save with fear and some save with compassion We don't know so we have to pray and ask the Lord But it has to be a balance because we can't just throw truth bombs at people They don't know what to do with the truth when it's not doused in grace. Did you I didn't This question says I never thought about this Subject until recently because I raised my children As Christians until recently my six-year-old was watching some Disney episodes That shows two guys's dads and my daughter said to me see mom a guy can marry a guy I said no silly. I and so I explained God credit girls and boys An opposite sex I read them the Bible of pray devotions and so on but this they're showing more and more deceptive things How should I guide them outside of? What they read in the Bible and I'm praying and they're here at church and things take Disney out of your home.  You know what I retired with a pension from from the airlines I can't touch it until I'm 65, but I take every I would rather that happen and ever lose every single penny that I own Than to have kids have the access to the internet that they have now it is killing our kids There's a man named Brad huddleson. He's a friend of mine. Wait. We had him here didn't we? He wrote a book called digital cocaine amazing Amazing man amazing ministry amazing book, but go online YouTube friend him Brad huddleson and he will explain What this does to our brains? It's the same exact dopamine releases That happens with drugs and one thing he just I just watched one of his messages the other day I'm like whoa. This is good. He said do not reward your kids with internet time Because it's like saying listen Johnny if you're a good little boy or girl you get to do a lot of coke before We go out today Do not reward your kids With screen time This one says our daughter's 21 and living a gay lifestyle already So how do we minister to her now that she's 21 as an so she's already an adult and Living a lesbian lifestyle. So how do we do we share the Bible with her still? Do we just well if she was raised in your home and you've been a Christian for more than a couple of years you know then she knows who God is she knows the truth and You fast in pray you fast fast and well pray all the time But I would sincerely say fast once a week on behalf of your daughter second Samuel 14 14 be so second Samuel 14 14 the second half of that verse says yet God does not take away a life But he devises means so that his banished ones are not expelled from him And then if we look at Luke 15, which is the story of the prodigal we look at verse 14 of that it says Then the the son went off and did his thing it says and then there arose a severe famine in the land and He began to be in want who is sovereign God who brought the famine God He devised a means so that his banished one wasn't completely expelled from him and that kid came back to his father With open arms and daddy didn't ask any questions. He just received him and so Fast and pray and stay as involved in your daughter's life as you possibly can Go out to lunch do the things that that she enjoys if it's whatever she enjoys as a 21 year old Stay as involved as you can in her life and ask her how she's doing. You don't have to talk about her identity Ask her how she's doing at school.  She's involved with she's way Way way more than her gay identity way more than that So you've had the conversation She knows the truth you're fasting and praying and we'll see God do a mighty mighty thing and pray scripture with her name in it I like to use Ephesians chapter 3 Verses 16 through 19 and Colossians chapter 1 Versus 9 through 11 and I'm actually gonna pray it now somebody give me a name Rihanna Lord we pray for Rihanna and crystal Lord God we ask that they would be filled with the knowledge of your will and all wisdom and spiritual Understanding we pray that Rihanna and crystal would walk worthy of you Lord and that they would fully please you Lord we pray that Rihanna and crystal would be fruitful in every good work and that they would increase in the knowledge of you Lord God Strengthen these two beautiful women with all of your might according to your glorious power for all patience and long suffering with joy That's what it sounds like and do the same thing with Ephesians chapter 3 verses 16 through 19 And however wherever else in the Bible the Lord leads you to pray With your child's name in there and listen the Lord will do it The Lord will do that remember what I said in the beginning the enemy can't take your life So he's gonna try to steal your hope Don't lose your hope because your kids will see that and if you lose hope in God then why should they believe a God in that?   Don't let your children's deception and sin of Lead you away from the Lord.  If the child comes out and the parents disapproved and now the child does not want a relationship with those parents Well, I would have imagined the child is is out of the home and so I Guess you have to honor that as much as you can But if they still have you you know your your number if they haven't blocked you on on whatever Just you know say to them, you know, I'm I understand you don't want a relationship with us But I want to let you know We want a relationship with you and if you tell all your friends I'm not going to know but I'm going to let I'm telling you now if you tell all your friends that we've we've Kicked you to the curb that that we've were the ones that have suffered this relationship You're lying to your friends. Don't tell your friends that we didn't want relationship with you You need to tell your friends the truth that you didn't want relationship with us Because if you're not honest with your friends, then who are you? What kind of friendships do you have will always be here for you? Well, we want you back We want relationships with you and until you Block our number.  Do what you want You have plenty of people that will accept you for who you are and where you are in the way that you feel like you need It or want it we accept you as our child. We love you as our child But we believe differently about your identity, but that doesn't change our love for you It just means we believe differently and if you cannot accept that then we pray that you will Eventually want to come back into our family because when you do we'll be here with open arms I'm gonna ask her two more questions and then we'll and she said she'll stick around but between the heat and I know a lot of You have questions for her so one Some of People saw your decal and they were asking how come it has the rainbow frat flag Um Well first off the rain. I wish it had the purple got cut off The LGBT rainbow flag is six colors and God's rainbow is seven Pride month is in the sixth month interesting The number of man is six the you know the number we associate with with the Jesus is is seven but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna Let people take away the beautiful colors of the rainbow I mean When we see a rainbow outside, does it make you think of your gay neighbor? Does it make you think of God? I? Mean I stand I Stand and I look at rainbows especially you guys don't get rainbows out here because you don't have any stinking rain But but on the East Coast we have them a lot and it's just is it it's just like oh Look at that look at that, but if you notice on my little sticker It's also the male and female symbol. It's the you know seven colors if the purple would it came out, but I Have a couple of them if you want to Grab one or whatever, but I'm just about run out, but I Love I love the rainbow. All right. We're not gonna get maybe another quick just real quick Got saved January 19th 2003 got baptized in August of that same year in New Jersey on the shore On the in the Atlantic Ocean happened to be a little bit of a cloudy day and a rainy day So so we were kind of like under this gazebo thing and and it was sprinkling a little and then we went walked down the beach Toward the water and as I was walking toward the water So like like so this this carpet is the sand and this is the ocean As I was walking in I looked up and from and like so here I was walking in right here and to end rainbow over the water as I was walking in to get baptized and the Lord just spoke to my heart. I've given you I've given you a new a new not a new rainbow, but that's what I heard I've given you a new rainbow because I was ready to have it like tatted all over me all my Flight my crew bags and stuff had rainbow stickers all over them and stuff So the Lord reminded me who he was on the day I got baptized There's so many and I apologize. There's so many deep heavy questions, but This is the last one thing before we close I'm gonna ask this question then when After she answers it.  Yes, please But we'll stay here Tomorrow night one of the questions was what's the age for tomorrow night? So it's junior high in high school and we're gonna be moving into the banquet hall tomorrow night So if your youth any junior high it's open to all junior high in high school In the banquet hall tomorrow night Josh and I'll be there with Patty and our leaders and all that and so that's tomorrow night Okay, and just a couple things that as I was praying for you guys today What the Lord knows your hearts and I don't these are just some of the things that I wrote down for today, but There's paperwork over on the counter over there that will give you ministries that will be helpful for you We have one of our ministry leaders here in whether she leads help for families, which is one of the most common places that I send people for but a Ministry that's new to me. I don't know how long it's been around but it's new to me like the past six or eight months is Axis a Xis and it's Amazing like there's a plethora of information there for parents with what your kids your Gen Z kids are Experiencing now, so make sure you pick up that For your kids find out what is the biggest lie there are believing right now and minister to that and This is huge. We need to prepare our kids for war Because we're millennials or older than my generation is the one starting this we've bubble wrapped our kids We have bubble wrapped our kids We've not prepared them for war and and so we need to do what it takes to make our children warriors No wimps. We need warriors. We need them to put on their spiritual armor every day They're getting blasted at school if they speak up at school. They get bullied. They get mocked.  Please make sure you pour into your other kids Oftentimes I talked to siblings and they feel They feel neglected sometimes and very angry at their sibling because they're getting all the attention and We as the church we need to repent for our own sexual sin We know probably don't talk about it enough, but we know there's people in this room right now that watch porn There is there's probably a lot That are watching porn we need to repent of our sin the church lacks power because it lacks purity and so confess your sins Confess your sins one to another and pray for one another that you may be healed It says in James and if you need to do that do it tonight talk to your spouse about it tonight and then pray For your child that has experienced Maybe some of the demonic things that have come into your home because of your sexual sin. Well, that's a fun thing to end on All right, let's just pray and we'll be here Lord, we just thank you for Patty and her Testimony and Lord we thank you for your love your grace and mercy. We thank you that you forgive us of all sin Lord though we thank you for your word that says that you demonstrated your love for us while we were yet sinners Christ died and Lord, we thank you for hope. That's an anchor for our soul Lord, we pray for our our little ones. We pray for our teens. We pray for the adults that are being lied to Lord Even as Patty just mentioned even heterosexual adults that are living in sin Lord in the church we pray for repentance Lord, we pray for forgiveness and healing and moving forward Father for those who are struggling in same-sex attraction those who are struggling with their identity May they know that Lord they are fearfully and wonderfully made and may all Find hope in you and Jesus name. We pray amen. Let's thank Patty for coming out


Hi, I'm Giovanni Becchis, I'm an OpenBSD developer and mail server administrator for my own company. And this is a ten years story about how we move our setup from bare metal servers running in postfix to VM in high availability running both postfix and open SMTPD. with shared data. The story of the setup was on my SP some OpenBSD mail servers and they're running the classical postfix, Spamassin, Namavis and crew remap. And then during the years we found something should be changed to improve. One of the things was definitely postfix because complex setups are being too complex for many reasons. Due also because of Namavis that xlux proxy as its own configuration and so on and we wanted something simpler. Some of the things we didn't change yet is crew remap. We decided not to go to DoveCut for in the past it was mainly because we do not need some of the cool features DoveCut has. Now it's probably something we have to do but I know there's a script that should change, convert all mail deers to DoveCut formats but at the moment we have something like half terabytes of emails. So we need a very strict reason to switch to something else before trying to run a script on such mail. There was initially there was no absolutely no load balances, no share storage, just bare metal. It was more than 10 years ago. Some fixed pieces we want to not to move is OpenBSD because we think it's rock stable and being one of developers is something that I'm very familiar with. One thing is I'm not going to move from is Apache spam as seen because I want one of developer there as well so I do not have any reason to move to RaspamD or something, some other software. The first step towards moving to OpenSMTPD was now when OpenSMTPD has been committed to OpenBSD Source 3 mainly because we want to differentiate from the main customers, mail servers to dedicated machines to let customers send newsletters, marketing stuff and so on. We decided to try the software. The software initially was very simple, was just plain virtual setup like pass-through-the-style lines and it goes very well. So we decided to move to a better setup and to try to integrate on our infrastructure OpenSMTPD in a better way and to use it as a primary MX as well. The main problem at that time was that there was no filter interface so it was complicated to integrate anti-span software so we had to wait sometime till last year where filters were finally integrated in a very fascinating way and there are definitely production ready. On our setup we use in a web panel that's SP Configure. We modify the depth to support OpenBSD and the biggest part is just let the web panel create blowfish passwords. Otherwise there was some path hard-coded to fix and nothing complicated. Using the panel let us save data in a way that we can use the same data from PostFix for OpenSMTPD in a clean way and our user can create by on their own filters and whatever they want. New aliases emanate their web server. First things towards a real high availability setup was absolutely lock balancer so we start moving with PF and RELADE integration as lock balancer and to separate, to have more machines and then a shard and FS storage to have measures. The web panel uses MySQL as backend so we decided to go with MySQL master-master replica so all our users are replicated on more machines. The MXR couple will master and slave and if that's reached master-master replica continue to replicate and so we can both change user names and users can use their address books and calendars. We use Sogo as calendar server to have this functionality. The simple RELADE setup is just having an MX primary and a fallback and does a TCP check at the moment that just checks if the power is live or not and if it's not a fallback to the secondary and for the secondary the configuration is inverted so we can have one of the two nodes down and the whole traffic is moved to the primary or the other one. There should be in the future some improvements there because we would like to have not only check the TCP connection but also check the average queue of emails and some other things. We're looking into some SNP integration to have more information from RIMX servers to detect which is the server to move the traffic to. One important thing it was the replica in MySQL. This setup is possible also with Postgres. The web panel doesn't work with Postgres but you can do whatever you want if you want. In master-master replica you can set the connection between the master and the slave and it does work just with the first line of configuration file when you say start replicating from this log journal file. The second one is a new type of replica that's more stable than the previous. Master-master replications is first table on OpenBSD. The only problems we had was during some upgrade because there already be certificates. Master-master replica only on the same version of MySQL. They certificate for mixed version but there are a lot of conditions like officially supported operating system, full moon and a lot of other things. And so you have to stay to maybe it's wildly to stop replica before upgrading both servers and reinstruct later. For the main mail server we wanted a setup that's in which we can switch on from Postfix to SMTPD on a single server with a single command. So we decided to go to a configuration that could be easier on the SMTPD part. Maybe for queries also are some queries a bit tricky but what we wanted is that if doesn't need to switch from Postfix to OpenSNTPD and back for whatever reasons like security issues or like there are some configurations that are better handled on the Postfix part and other that are better handled on SMTPD part. So there has been cases in which for a specific customer it was better to move to also OpenSNTPD or Postfix and we decided to go this bit part for that reason. First lines are the certificates. As a start certificate you can use whatever you can use with your own Let's Encrypt or certificate you both somewhere. Then there are the definition of the table where your virtual user are, your virtual domain, virtual users and the credentials are the users that you use for start authentication to relay a bound email. The trickiest part is the MySQL queries because in SMTPD the user cannot be any mail address but on many situations this is not true. So we decided to go for a replace query and we decided that the underscore was not allowed or not stopping on for email addresses. This has to be done both in the user info query that finds where the mail address part is and in the query alias that is using MailV alias which is a view that does more or less the same things than the query user info. So this way it's the aliases are mapped into a fake user and then it's reconstructed later at the MDA level. Then does the entity spawn setup that does a lot of filters available, some filters we're using, some not. At the moment we filters on some regasps for the hello name and we check the reverse DNS. There are many other filters like for DNSBL, if you fully trust in DNSBL you can disconnect if it's coming from one of these blacklists. So instead of disconnecting the users there's another keyword that is junk so if the connection matches this particular filter the email is moved on the junk folder of the user and it doesn't check all the subsequent filters. These are very useful if you trust for example a particular filter and if you're not using pop free because otherwise the mail will not be downloaded by the users. So filters are not only to anti spawn setup related, they're related also to some other things like Deakin signing or reporting. The protocol is very easy, it's an ASCII protocol, it's not binary so you can write a filter in whatever language you want and it's very easy to write and make it work. The Deakin sign filter has a peculiarity because with the POSFIX setup we use Damovis and Damovis can sign but you have to have a key for every domain. In the Deakin sign filter you have one key for all your domains so it's a bit different in the setup from one to the other. Then there's a filter spam assassin, there's also a filter respondee if you're using the software that just connects to the spam assassin servers around the rules and copy back the results and the mail is rejected or accepted based on the spam assassin configuration. Then filters are applied so you can decide based on whatever you want which filters you do want. In this setup you have an address connection so the public interface where some filters are applied but it's possible also to change some things. So you can for example in some conditions apply some filters and in some other conditions apply different filters. One of the cool things is that for submission for example TLS authentication is required and there's no way to do a submission or SMTP relay plain text like it's possible on POSFIX or another software. Clam the integration is a bit special because there's more than a way to do it. One way is to use filter clamor but at the moment it's not production ready because it has some bugs and there are some races so it's possible that emails are mixed up. One to connect, concatenate it to another and not all viruses are detected because in the filter there's something that we still don't know what that changes the email content when sent to clamor maybe some end lines or not all viruses are detected this way yet so it's not something to put in production. Another possibility is to use a clamor called byspermassin. There are cool things to use there but something that's not perfect. The thing that's not perfect is that if a virus is detected this way the email will be rejected as junk as not as virus so the message that will be put to the upstream mail server will be not correct. The cool thing is that with this plugin that is not officially integrated yet but we think we will integrate maybe in 4.0 or 4.1 version. It's possible to give different scores to different signatures from clamor. So for example in clamor there are a lot of unofficial signatures that leads to phishing contents and macro viruses or some other stuff, bad URLs etc. and some of these are a high possibility to have some false positives. With this plugin we have the possibility to add different scores to different clamor signatures. So the official scores, the official signatures we are certain that are correct there will be no false positives and this way we can mark as with a high score. In the unofficial ones we can change the score or use other rules so we can check if it's listed in an official signature in clamor and some other conditions are met then we'll mark as palm as other way it will continue and will be accepted. As far as we know for S1D users there's not such feature available but I'm not sure. So this is something that you have to think about because integration with an antivirus is something that needs to be on a mail server. This is an interesting feature that it doesn't fully work with POSFIX for my experience. That's SOS, it's a standard rise scheme that is when you relay towards another external server with dot for word with an antivirus that's the problem that SPF is not respected so SRS rewrites the smith sender and this way SPF is respected and the mail goes. Gmail, Facebook and others have set up such that this kind of relays without SRS doesn't work. With POSFIX there are external mailters for SRS but in some cases when vacation is enabled it doesn't work and it triggers some loops so it's not something we've found a real way to make it work in a fine way. This way is definitely easier and is one of the cool things that make us move some of the infrastructure into open-send TPD. It just has to define a crypto key that's used internally and define that when you relay you have to apply SRS and that's all. One of the trickiest part is the use of mail drop. Mail drop is the sieve for Dovacot. It does the same things that sieve does for Dovacot so it filters mail based on the mail drop script language and it checks for quotas and so on. This is the part where we have to use a custom MDA because mail drop wants the user in the setup to be an email address but we have a user that's not an email address because it doesn't work. So the custom MDA just replace the underscore that we set up first with a SQL query and put the head sign back. It checks for quota and quota is available on a global manner so you have to specify 90-90% so that's warning when 90% of the quota is full. The email will be sent to the user saying you're quite full. The email is the user that we use for virtual delivery so the user that will exact the mail drop script and a lot of other parameters that I use inside mail drop to detect the sender, the dialysis and so on. To go with passing iscripts and doing actions. Once we define the actions we can define when those actions are applied. Like with match from any to one of our domains put it on their mail folders through the custom MDA or deliver locale if the mail is locale or if mail is authorized you can relay outbound with SRS in this case. Log files in SMTPD are a bit I think strange for respect to what other mail servers are. There are a lot of informations but it's not as easy to correlate those informations. I think this is something that could be improved and maybe a wrapper filter could up this way to create a custom log file to parts to use for example in the Kibana or other analysis tools. This is one of the things that's missing is that when for example Spun B detects the desert spam in the line there is no information about the users this spam is sent to. This is because the user that is passed to spam assassin is unknown in this case. This is something that is discussing on spam assassin. You can send it to the server a user that usually is the email address that you are sending to. This is used to have custom rules per user, custom scope per user and some other informations. As I said before there are different user by user on user cases not on alias cases or even on domain cases in some way. This cannot be done at the moment in the filter because the user where the email will be delivered is unknown at that stage yet. We have just the informations of the mail cells for the RSCPT2 but that information is not correct for spam assassin because for example the RSCPT2 could be an alias, could be a message from to a mail list so the information is not fully there. So some other filter like Mailter and Postfix for example try harder to check what the user name could be by looking into RSCPT2 headers and doing some tricks to try to detect what the correct user will be and passes to spam assassin. This could be done but there are some parts in the Mailter code that could be used to mimic the logic. There are a bit strange like it try to connect with some mail to itself to detect if the user exists or not. There are some strange things that are not that correct to do so we are trying to find a better way to find the correct user or something that is at least similar to the correct user and put it to spam assassin and this way we will have also in that line some informations about the user that the mail will be logged to. So at the moment log files are, there are quite all informations so you can look into but they are not created in a way that is easy for a log analyzer to check and to store into a web GUI like Kibana and so on. To do that we use the log stack file bit so we have some filters that analyze the log files and correlates with some other informations to produce those information and save them into Elasticsearch. This is done with the same filter for both POSFIX servers and SNTPD servers so we can have a global informations about who is sending, who is relay with which server, how many people are relaying for example with SNTPD or with POSFIX. We use that also to analyze which are the most hit rules in spam assassin. So we can decide for example if there is a particular new spam campaign and a lot of rules of the same rule that has a very low score is it that we can think about improving this score to block this campaign proactively. And it's, there are in log files there are informations to use geolocations so to detect even if a user for example is trying to send emails from different nations at the same time which is something that will probably be an alarm because it could very very probably be an attack of impersonation of that user. So the part that's missing at the moment is the spam assimper user setup. This is one thing that will I think will be fixed very soon and this is something that prevent us to move some users to this setup because it's something that some user wants and it can be done for some domains but not for all. We would like to get rid of the mail drop wrapper and use directly mail drop because it's the mail drop wrapper just fixes the parameters with some simple checks and then calls mail drop via exactly. So it's something we would like to get rid of and the only way will be probably to modify the web interface to let it save directly the user. So it's something that will probably touch more the web interface than mail drop so we have to decide which is the path to go with maintaining a matter of wrapper and let it do for example additional logging or something like that or change our web setup. One other thing that could be done is gruelisting. At the moment there's no official officially committed gruelisting filter but there is a gruelist filter that's been written by Gila that is a bit different from the typical gruelisting setup because this filter is SPF aware so he knows and records if a mail comes from a domain that has SPF setup so if a second connection comes from different IP addresses he can map these IP addresses in the SPF address space and let it go in without waiting, waiting and waiting like all classical gruelisting setups. This is interesting and it's something that I think could be implemented and should be committed to the official source tree. Then definitely a real AD setup based on more data this would need implementing scripts or SNMP or something like that to be able to decide in a more fine way, a more granular way which is the server that's currently alive. This is mainly because TCP connection works most of the time even if for example there's a high loader average and in this case TCP connection works so emails continue to flow to the wrong server and it's been wise to switch the server on another, switch the main queue on another server so the load average could go down and it could be analyzed if needed to. So this is more or less finished. We are going to move some more domains to this kind of setup and to improve that to be able to not get rid of postfix definitely but to integrate postfix with something that is mainly BSD based and more easier to configure and more easier to manage. Yeah? Do you have any other plans to do pre-queue filtering? This is pre-queue filtering. In the past we used the Amelies with open SNMPD like a proxy in post-queue so it's possible to yeah. Please don't forget to repeat the question. Okay. Thank you.


Hi, I'm Mike Buddy, and May's What's Neat This Week starts right now. This is What's Neat for May 2017. I'm your host, Ken Patterson, and this month for the show's lineup, Jeff Meyer stops by and shares with us some freight cars that he's building for Model Rail and Hobbyist Magazine's Toma Layout Project. And then later in the show, Mike Buddy stops by and shares with us some of his magnificent auto racks, he brings a complete auto rack train and shares with us tips on the design of the train and even what the concepts are and why they even run auto rack trains the way they run them. So he gives us a little background on that this month. Later in the show, I demonstrate how to make winter scenery using leaves, various types of ways to create scale leaves, an HO scale or O scale to use on our layouts. And then at the end of the show, George Bogatok from Soundtrack stops by and he shares with us a knowledge of information that he has about the new Sonomi 2 diesel decoder. Now you'll recall two months back, we went over the entire parameters of the Sonomi 2 steam decoder, but this month George is going to teach us everything that we need to know about the diesel decoder, how to program it and set it up. I'm telling you, we're really going to get good at this stuff. So with that, that's the lineup for this May 2017 What's Neat. For this segment of What's Neat, it sure has been a crazy winter in between snow storms and temperatures in the 60s and dropping back down into the 20s. We've had some incredible winds and today I open up my door and what do I see? I see all my neighbor's leaves staring at me. Am I upset? No, not at all. This is great scenery material for modeling late summer, winter or fall. Delivered to my door. If you study prototype leaves and you look through a forest, you'll notice that the undergrowth is constantly covered with leaves so much so that only the heartiest of vegetation can grow through. And that's what this material is good for. Delivered to my door and ready to go. Let's take this into the shop and let's process this and let me illustrate and show you quickly how you can model great undergrowth for winter scenes or fall scenes on your model railroad layout. The first step in the process of creating our winter ground covers, I take the leaf material and I'm putting it in this household blender and then I want to fill it up with water because if I don't put water in here, it's not going to grind up. You need the water to help move things around. Now I'm going to do this for about a minute. Use the highest speed that the blender's got. I'm heating the process over and over again until I get enough material. I don't have to do it that often. So I'm going to have enough material here so I can do it one time and this second batch really ground up real nice. This is much finer. This looks good. So now I'm going to go take all of this to the oven and let it bake for about 300 degrees or 250 degrees for about an hour until it all completely dries out. I'm going to dump this out onto this screen which is actually a splash screen for frying pan. You could also use a colander for that. Pan is hot and what I want to do is I've got this colander from the grocery store and the openings in it I measured these is about a 30 second of an inch. So it's a pretty coarse screen. And what we want to do is we want to sift our freshly baked leaves through this screen so that I get some good HO scale size leaves. And all we simply do is just do what, shake it a little bit and what I get is this fantastic material that all scales out to about the right size. Now with regards to baking temperature I have found that it's best to bake the leaves at about a temperature of 200 degrees. If you get too much higher than that what happens is you start to burn them and it'll darken the color on them which will give you more of a weathered leaf look if you're modeling that summer season where you still have the undergrowth. But primarily for fresh fallen leaves I like them still to have the original leaf color. So that's how I do this segment. Now what we need to do is apply this to a scene real quick and I'll show you how easy and how dramatic it makes a scene look. Back in 1993 I used the ground up fine leaves on the Midwest Valley modelers layout where they were sprinkled underneath the trees and onto the roads and roofs of buildings to create the late summer early fall theme of the layout. Simply apply the sifted leaves onto the layout in the areas where you are planning dense tree growth. Tease the leaf material with an artist brush to allow the underlying vegetation to stand up as the leaves settle evenly in the area. Once your trees are in place the dry leaves create an effect that just looks right. I chose wire trees for this demonstration but I really love the yellows and oranges of fall and will eventually add these full color trees to the scene whereas it'll add bright colors along with maybe grinding up some yellow and orange leaves to put onto the ground. This ground leaf material also looks great in summer scenes that's pretty much how I did do it on the Midwest Valley modelers layout whereas the forest floor is always covered with leaves year round. Now let's say that you wanted to change a scene on your layout and you still have these leaves and they weren't glued into place you can simply vacuum them up by using a coffee filter on the end of your vacuum hose and by stuffing this filter in and turning the machine on it will capture all of the dry leaf materials safely in the filter turn the vacuum cleaner off and then simply let the material drop onto a piece of paper so that you can put it back into a container for future reuse on the layout. Another way to make leaves is by using a leaf punch from the Green Stuff World website. I ordered one of these and tried it out on both paper and dried leaves. It easily punches out leaves of various shapes measuring about nine inches in HO scale so it may lend itself well to S scale or O scale scenery projects. Now in my opinion sill floor makes some of the most realistic looking leaf material. The colors and the shapes are very believable. If you look at the model railroad hobbyist magazine's blog you will find Tom Johnson's Logan's Port and Indiana Northern Railroad. Not only is Tom a master backdrop creator, he also uses sill floor leaves effectively in a super detailed foreground scenes on roads on the roof of buildings. It just simply makes his scenes look magnificent and with that that ends this scenery segment on What's Neat. Alan and you're watching What's Neat with Ken Patterson. It's tax season and I see Jeff Meyer. Hey Jeff man what are you shooting on this beautiful day? I feel like I always say that but it's it's just crazy. Look at these models. What do you got going on here today? It's three freight cars for the MRH Toma layout. They're gonna take a small layout I think from what Joe Fugate was saying. Take them to some train shows and stuff on display and they asked a few of us from the weathering shop to weather some freight cars for them so they gave me three Atlas cars of those are the ones I picked. Just a hopper, a tank car and a box car. Not much too much going on the tank car but this hopper turned out pretty nice as did the seaboard system box car that's patched. Man I love it when you come over here you always got some of the best-looking models. Well man Jeff thank you for sharing this with us on What's Neat. This is some pretty cool stuff going on here. Thank you. I had Mike on the show in a good seven months because he's kind of been building a lot of 125th scale cars. I understand he's building a Verdi pack for that and it's kind of kept him occupied for the last six months. Now if you remember a while back we had a video called This is Nuts. That's the one video I think that's almost close to 600,000 hits where Mike and Joe Steinman and the guys set up a whole lot of dioramas in the backyard and then ran an auto rack train full of beautiful automobiles Pacers Gremlins you name it. You know the video I'm talking about if you've seen that. Well Mike's back again tonight with some more beautiful models that he's built in auto racks so I want to hand it over to Mike and let him share with you some of his art that he's got for us on What's Neat. Yeah we're under a little bit more controlled situation this time weather wise. We're set up on Ken's layout here. This train represents a loaded auto rack train pulling finished vehicles from the factory and returning empty auto parts boxcars to the vendors. So one thing I always get asked about on these trains is the telephone company vehicles and I retired from Southwestern Bells a year ago and spent 37 years there so I have a lot of telephone vehicles on my auto racks and after this is over with I'll show you what I used to make those trucks. So have a look at this train. Wanting some station wagons I took these classic metal works Chevy and Pallas 1978 model made a master of a station wagon and then I cast them in resin and used scotch tape for the windows painted them and that's what I use in a lot of my auto racks just to give it a little more variety. Now another thing I recently did was I made a two-door version of this same car so I'll be able to mix those in as well but just something else to spice up my auto racks. Alright so so the way it works was the empty auto racks and the full auto parts cars would be going into the plant and the plant would unload all the auto parts out of the auto parts boxcars meanwhile they're building vehicles loading the finished vehicles on the auto racks so when the train goes out of the plant the auto racks are full of new vehicles and the auto parts cars are empty and usually these the racks and the boxcars were assigned in pools and they would run back and forth on the same route all the time you know you might have a Frisco boxcar on southern Pacific rails it was assigned to a pool in California that never even ran on its own rails the railroads all contributed a little bit towards the maintenance of these rail cars rather than trying to keep track of their own cars they would just pull each other's cars and use them and I guess pay each other. Yes so all this didn't depend on stick with specific railroads it was basically a mixed match of different. You didn't always have Missouri Pacific cars on the Missouri Pacific rails. Okay a lot of times it worked out like that but more often than not the cars were mixed and they were just assigned to certain trains all the time so that's the way that worked. As far as these bell trucks go I got some of the original paint when I was working there and I'm sure you can have it mixed it's called communications gray green so that's what I painted the bottoms of the vans with actually I paint a whole van so I paint the white over the top of it and I made my own decals on a copy machine but now some friends of mine with printers made some real quick decals that are easy to use. As far as the stripes go this is some actual tape from the trucks back in the day this is like 35 years old and it's actually reflective scotch light from the sides of the real trucks that they use so I cut thin strips apply it to the sides of the vehicle so when you know it goes behestalite it reflects just like the real trucks and that always attracts a lot of attention so I hope you enjoyed the run-by and we'll see you next time. This next segment of What's Neat I've got George Bogatec setting up to do a demonstration on the Sonami 2 diesel decoder he's in St. Louis to do a clinic at Mark Twain hobby he gave a very very thorough presentation for almost an hour and a half long on both the diesel and the steam decoder from the Sonami 2 line of decoders that are brand new from Soundtracks and he's here today so George tell us about the diesel decoder. Alright so now that we've set up our steam locomotives now we're going to show you how to set up some of the same features in our diesel decoder. First thing we need to do this is a 567 non-transition but it's not the right one because this is an E8 and it's got dual prime movers so we need to select the bright prime mover so the good news is again you don't have to spend hours downloading this off of the computer we simply change the CV so in this case we're going to program CV 123 and according to the chart on our users on our website at soundtracks.com under the manuals tab you'll see the sound selection chart for the EMD decoder and you'll notice that choice number 3 is going to be the dual 567 so we're going to set this to a value of 3 and you're going to instantly hear it change there's prime mover number 1 and there's prime mover number 2 so now we've got this correct so now we're going to select our horn and bell just like we did with the steam decoder and that's again CV 120 for the horn and 122 for the bell and the diesel decoder you have 42 different air horns to choose from and in the and you also have 12 bells to choose from and again you can go through pick one that that matches so first let's listen to the bell so that's a pretty fast ring rate but it's pretty good let's try a different one okay we're getting close let's try a different one here that's same bell the fast ring rate that's probably a good sound for that locomotive so now let's pick the air horn that's actually probably correct so we'll go ahead and leave that one but you would change CV 120 to pick the air horn that matches your model and now we're going to set up our dynamic digital exhaust or DDE as we did in the steam this allows the prime mover to notch up or down and also intensify based on how hard the locomotive is working nothing's worse than losing control of your locomotive when you're doing your switching so the DDE processor does the sounds for you so to do this we're going to program CV 2.503 when the locomotive is moving forward at about speed step one and then we're going to program CV 2.504 when the locomotive is moving forward at about speed step 20 and we're going to set those to 255 so the decoder will internally auto calibrate how much energy the motor is needing to move the locomotive by itself light on flat level track and then the DDE processor will take over so when you pulling a heavier train or when you encounter a grade the DDE processor will then take over and notch the prime mover accordingly so let's start so let's start moving the locomotive at speed step one now to do this we're going to set CV 32 to a value of 2 and this is the 2. part of CV 2.503 then we program CV 503 as we normally would in our cab we enter a value of 255 and now the decoder has calibrated the minimum amount of energy that's needed to move this locomotive when it's light so now we're going to speed the locomotive up to about speed step 20 I'm going to hold it here since we have a short limited amount of track we're going to program in this case now we're going to program CV 504 and we're going to set it to 255 and before I press the enter button we're going to go ahead and let the locomotive go so that the decoder will let it run okay now it's settled in we hit the enter button now the decoder is programmed so now we stop our locomotive now the last thing that has to be done is the calibration for sensitivity and that's in CV 2.512 this is a range from 0 to 255 like it was in the steam decoder and gives you the amount of how sensitive the decoder is to changes in the load on the motor we typically start it fairly low so we're going to program this and that's CV 2.512 so we're going to program 512 since 32 is still set to 2 we're going to set we're going to start it somewhere around 35 and we're going to see how it does so now when we move our locomotive you can kind of hear the process or kick in but we'll hold it and you can hear the prime mover really notching in now that I've got some load against it and then when I release it you hear the throttle back off now this is a better effect of course once you have a train behind you but to show the effect I put my hand in front of it and you can play with the sensitivity to match your railroad and your locomotives so that they'll work together well so now that we've adjusted our DDE we're going to implement braking like we did with our steam engines so first we add a little bit of momentum CV 3 and 4 just to simulate a little bit of heavy train behind the locomotive and also the massive itself but then we've set braking rates into CVs 117 and 118 so we have our independent brakes so we're going to move forward then we're going to set our independent brake we're going to use F11 you hear the squealing coming from the brakes on the locomotive we're going to change directions we're going to release our brakes you hear the air bail off and then we're going to go pick up the passenger car like we did in the steam engine so we're getting close we're going to go ahead and do our sets now we're tied in change directions now we're going to add the sound car with F8 four times 1 2 3 4 now on the diesel when we activate train brake mode you're going to hear the prime mover notch up into notch 2 and you hear the compressor cycle as it's simulating the charge of the train line with the prime mover notching up it's turning that compressor faster so it's getting the air into the train and it'll run like that for about 30 seconds so in the essence of time we'll say we're done let's go ahead and move so we're going to go ahead we release our brakes and the train starts to move away and then now we do our set you'll hear the air reduction in the locomotive and you'll hear the squeal coming from the car so that's how easy brakes are to implement and how easy the decoders in the tsunami to product line are to set up and get them running to more closely simulate the work the real railroads are doing now let's see it in action let's see some run buys and see what all this is doing for us so now Ken we're going to show you how you can add that much more fun to your railroad with tsunami 2 so we've got a pair of our E8s here and we're going to pull this this freight train so we're going to get started so the first thing we got is we've got our lights on we're ready to go so now we're going to blow our whistle signal back to throttle pull up you'll hear the


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