Our next speaker is a personal friend of mine that I've got to know for a few years now. He is a returning speaker to the convention, one of the founders of the Red Man Group, the new podcast series you guys have seen this year. He's also one of the godfathers of Manusphere and the Red Pill, and he is the best-selling author of the rationale book series, volumes one, two, and three, and soon to be four. Without further ado, please help me welcome the stage, Rollo Tamasi. Here we go again. Oh, you got my books up here. That's nice. Thank you. All right. Anybody read this? You know, I was just telling these guys, well again, I'm honored to be here. First thing I want to say is thank you for all making this trip out here because I know that it's difficult to do, to take your time, to fly out here, to use your vacation time, your PTO, whatever it is you do, but you made this a priority for yourself, and that's the first thing I want to say is thank you guys for being here. Thank you, Anthony, for doing this, and thank you for taking the chance on making this the first real Red Pill Summit, and that's where we're at right now, and that's what I'm going to be talking about today. Anthony decided early on last year, he says, I want you to give a State of the Manisphere address, and I had to think about that because I'm not the kind of guy that likes to, I don't like to talk about what I do, I would rather just be doing what I do.  I would rather be doing anything, really, except for talking about the political climate, talking about how the real world interacts with the Red Pill world right now, and there's still that wall, there's still that barrier right now, and I really feel that that wall is kind of coming down as far as the barrier between the men in this room, the Manisphere in general, the Red Pill, which I make a distinction for, but I really feel that the mainstream is starting to take notice of this, and in particular this event, of course, because this is, as far as I know, the best event for this kind of stuff anywhere. I mean, where else do you get this? Where else do you get the Red Pill? Where else do you get to have engagement with, I hate to call them luminaries, but everybody's a luminary here, because he's coming on this stage, and I was telling these guys, I was telling Ryan just offstage here a minute ago, is that I'm glad that you guys are here to kind of help me out with this. I've never been the motivational speaker guy.  I'm not Jordan Peterson. I'm not anybody from RSD, for damn sure. But that's gonna be something I'm gonna talk about here in a little bit, because I really feel like that's kind of transferring over into that. So I got a few notes here. I've been actually writing this speech.  I'm constantly online, and I was telling these guys, I said, you know, I'm never not working. I have a really tough time unplugging from the Manusphere, unplugging from Twitter, unplugging from social media, because that's part of, well, first of all, my online persona, but also it's how I stay engaged with everybody, and it's how I come to understanding what it is that you guys are going through right now. I've always been like that. And so you'll have to forgive me here for a bit, because I don't do well speaking from a position of authority. And I might sound a little strange to you, because you have to kind of understand my background before you understand why I don't like to get up here and pontificate and say, there's what I'm going to tell you about it, and you guys are going to believe me, and you're going to go, oh, great, good, keep going, Rolla, do what you said, because I don't come from that. I come from a forum background. And then if anybody who knows anything about me, my earliest work, I've been doing, I've been writing in what is now called the Manusphere for, since 2001, 2002, somewhere around there, but it wasn't called the Manusphere then. It wasn't even called the Red Pill then. It was, I was a moderator for a forum called So Swap. And the reason I love So Swap and the reason I kept coming back to that is because I would get stories and individual, you know, individual stories from guys, and they would, sometimes there would be commonalities and sometimes there wouldn't, and sometimes there would be guys who would, you know, be very uncomfortable with relating what it is that they're going through, like talking about, you know, their sexist marriage, talking about, you know, the girl that they slept with last night, maybe they cheated on their wife, maybe something else happened. It's this, it used to be all about pickup artistry, but So Swap was a little bit more advanced than that. And at the time, I was learning from all these other guys, I was also doing peer counseling as part of my college education, I was learning behavioral psychology at that time. And I was doing peer counseling, and so I was listening to the stories of these men who are mostly older because nobody wanted to talk to them. Nobody wanted to talk to the guys who were like, I mean literally crying in my lap, I've got a 60 year old guy telling me he doesn't know what to do to make his wife happy, and he's been in a sexist marriage for like 20 or 30 years, and, you know, still stuck in this old mentality, this old way of thinking, and so I'm here and I'm listening to these guys, then I'm going back to So Swap, and I'm listening to or reading through the conversations that we're having there. And so my background is really interrelating with men and their stories and aggregating all of that. I'm glad that people think that I have a some sort of magical power to predict the future, but really I don't. I'm just really good at pattern recognition. And the reason I'm good at pattern recognition is because I listen to you guys. And most of the stuff that you find in the first book here, a lot of that was the, it was the stories and the debates and the conversations that we had, you know, back and forth. And so we built this up. And what I ended up doing in 2011 was I started taking some of the best discussions that we had and I put them into the, well, I put them into a blog format. And then the blog started taking off and then somebody said you should really put these into a book because people it's a lot more legitimate if you put it in print. So my approach here is interactive. So I'm going to be probably a little bit different than any of the speakers that you're going to see this in this weekend, simply because I like back and forth.  And the reason I want to do that is because every guy here has a story, every guy here has something that's going on with them. And there's a reason why they, why they became unplugged. There's a reason why they found my books. There's a reason why the red pill means something to them.  It means something a whole lot more than that. And so we're going to, we're going to break that down a little bit more today too. But Anthony had asked me to do a state of the Manisphere address. And that's what I'm going to start getting into today. So I'm going to go through what I see happening. And I don't think any of this is really any, it's not news to you guys because a lot of the guys that I see, at least on, on Twitter, the guys that participate in the comment section on my blogs, the guys who call in for the Red Man group, which is becoming more than I ever expected it would be. Those are the exciting things. I like getting the, I like getting that feedback because that's what feeds me to write the next book. That's what feeds me to think about things that I might not have thought about up until this point. I always get from guys, they say, you know, when are you going to run out of material? When are you going to write the last thing? And you know, haven't you said everything? And I was just saying, you know, I'm good at pattern recognition. And yes, there's a lot of stuff that's really predictable. And so people think that I only, you know, I have some magical powers of, you know, of precognition that I can see what's coming. But no, I just see the patterns and I see what's coming. And I've, you know, I've, guys at this convention this year and last year, I think I did more, I think I did more talking off the stage than I did on the stage last year. And I'm already losing my voice from this, from talking to you guys from last night and everything else. But again, it's that engagement. So understand that engagement is very important to me.   And I want you to look at the man next to you. Okay.  It says, this is the man's fear. This is the red pill, because it's real easy to get isolated. We like to think of the internet as some sort of big extra version. It's like, that's fun. And we're going to go with all the red man groups on. I want to participate in that. And it's all about you're doing that when you're in in the middle of your of your studio or your office or wherever you are, and you're maybe you're doing it on your phone or something like that. That's more introversion to me. And that's a safe introversion. And that's one of the things I really like about this. And what's becoming of the man's fears is becoming more open and it's becoming more, for lack of a better term, diverse. I think it's always been diverse. But we'll talk about that in a minute. But everyone around you is a red pill. Every guy that's in here shares some sort of understanding of what I'm talking about, what what what all the rest of the speakers here are going to be talking about as well.  We're going to get to that later on, but the workshop part of this this talk today is going to be about understanding what the man's fear is, where it's going, what our strengths are, what our weaknesses are, what our opportunities are, and what the threats to us are these days. So when I get to that section, I would like if you feel the need just let me know what you think say maybe a strength is because I don't know I don't have all the answers. You guys have all the answers and you guys are going to help me sort of define this because the man's fear gets vilified a lot.   Hey we came up with the new term.  We're gonna we're gonna have a internet war with these guys. Okay this isn't that. This is a whole lot more serious and I think that the mainstream is becoming more aware of us and it's not good. It's not good right now. As I said I'm not a fan of motivational speaking but I think that motivational speaking today is it's a new niche market. There's what we call the lost boys generation. I think one of the the reasons that we have such a rise in popularity with guys like Tony Robbins, guys like Jordan Peterson is because they represent this father figure. They represent this sort of direction. I think it was when we when we brought on Pat Campbell here he was saying that you know people look up to him as sort of this old school masculinity. It's because it's so rare. We don't see that anymore. We see you know men are now are now heard but not seen and rather than seen and not heard. And so what we what we have going on right now as far as the the millennial generation is we have a lot of guys who are you know they'd lost a generation of the lost boys who are looking for that. They're looking for a positive masculinity.  Now as far as I'm concerned the message that they're getting is kind of insubstantial. When I talk about things people always want to say Rollo why don't you have 12 rules for life? Why don't you have a why don't you have a program? Why don't you have a prescription for me to follow so that I can live a great life? You've been married for 22 years.  You got a beautiful daughter. How do I get that? How do I get to do that something? And you know what? I don't have those answers.  You have the answers in here first and the second ball everybody in this in this room has an individual answer or something to say to those to those particular guys. But understand that there you once we leave this room and once we can we can build ourselves up and we can educate ourselves and we can become something more than we are when we first came in here to understand once you go out there that's what you're facing. You're not I mean it's really it's really easy to like you know to pat guys on the back and to what do your push-ups Ryan. And it's really easy to you know put out sort of activities to do but once you get out there you still gotta go back to work. I mean how many people here right now are here and if your work found out about it that you would be in trouble. Anybody?  I think you probably would. I say I already know that Goldman lost his job. I mean what was he talking about yesterday? How they they thought he was a pimp. They thought Goldman was a pimp. You know what? They weren't too far off. So I got to say first of all that I I'm I'm not I wasn't a fan of the old style the old style convention that we have obviously I kind of felt that anybody knows this story it knows that I was I kind of felt like the last last year or last year the year before that and you know Anthony's been doing this for about nine years. I kind of felt like it was more purple pill and I didn't really want to become a part of it but I did see a necessity for a red pill summit and that's what we've become today is a real red pill summit. So as far as I know like I said this is the only place where where guys can get together and we can talk and you know beyond those doors maybe you're going to lose your job but inside here at least you can learn and there's you know I almost want to say so people want to say it's the secret society and and as the things have been as really kind of social and political things have been happening recently I have one of my jokes has always been you know men are going to have to read the rational mail by by candlelight you know we're all going to have to you know hey let's get together we're going to read the we're going to read the rational mail today okay guys all right navigating the sexual marketplace you know and so we're all going to get together and it's like you know reading the bible in communist China when I think about that I mean it's funny right it's funny now that shit ain't gonna be funny very fair much longer I'm also been called the the godfather of the man's fear I'm also one of the three R's of the man's fear so who else can talk about the man's fear besides myself well I think Roycey would be a great one if anybody familiar with Roycey it's now Hart East he's no longer any he's no longer the same guy anymore I can give you the breakdown of what's happened to him but then the other the other are in the man's fear is ruche and as we know what has happened to ruche recently ruche has been censored right he has been his his books have been taken off of amazon his I mean he got the alex jones treatment he's been basically erased his digital footprint is being erased and now he has decided that he's going to to close the doors for return of kings I don't know what his personal reasons are for that but I was going to say that that represents an opportunity for us there needs to be an aggregate site like that that's where men can get together and they can discuss things there needs to be a pushback for something like the huffington post there needs to be something there as an alternative for for men second of all let's I'm just going to run through a few of the things here I said most importantly when we get to the to the SWAT assessment here most importantly we have to define what exactly is the man's fear okay we've gathered here together you want to know what the word together means it's to gather and that's what we've done here is the man's fear is a gathering it's a gathering of people on online because we can now facilitate that since the internet age but I can remember I've written some some posts about how things were in the 90s and how tough it was in the 90s to really understand anything that was imagine trying to unplug from the matrix and it's 1996 right you know you're watching friends you know you're watching everybody loves Raymond and it's like imagine like even having to come to the the the point where you're going man this doesn't sound right or or I don't know you know my old man isn't like this guy in fact this guy doesn't seem anything like a man so first and foremost the master is a gathering okay and the problem with the gathering when it comes to our ideal say ideological but when it comes to the feminine imperative they don't like us doing this that's why I asked you a minute ago who would lose their job if they're if their boss found out that they were here well what they want to do is they want to divide us and they want to pull us apart and that's one of the reasons why that the red pill subreddit has been uh disbanded I guess it's quarantined right now now there's a lot of what's a lot of hearsay going on as to why that is but the the nuts and bolts of it is is it's not there anymore because when guys get together it scares the it scares the gynaocracy or the gynocentrism it's it scares the feminine imperative now I kind of make a distinction between the two of those but I'll get back to that in here in a little bit but what we have in the man's fear is male space now it's talking to these guys just not too long ago about how the nfl used to be the last sort of bastion of male space we see uh the boy scouts right now that used to be a bastion of male space and so what we see is a tax on this we see we see the the feminine imperative gynaocracy coming in and breaking those things up uh recently in harvard harvard made the decision to break up all of the gender exclusive clubs on harvard so that means if there's a all all male club for you know talking about anything all male okay that no more we can't have that uh for all of these singular gender clubs they all had to be disbanded because we don't want to have that ostensibly we don't want to have any kind of but we don't want to facilitate men getting together and being misogynists and of course what do they what do they do for the women well the women the women found out that they couldn't exclusively meet together they said we need it we have to be able to meet together and we have to have gender exclusivity but we don't want it for the men we want to break up the men's uh clubs but we need our safe space and so what that is and what the nfl was and now it's becoming a little bit more more more feminized you see these old school male spaces being infiltrated and assimilated and then turned into something that they were never meant to be in the first place all of the reasons for men to get together and exclusively stay together as a an exclusive male tribe all of those things are threatening to the gynecocracy they don't want you to sit together they don't want us doing this right here they don't want us all talking with each other they don't want us comparing notes because if they if we're to do that we might actually think that some things were pretty fucking wrong about all of this and so when when you're going to lose your job when you're going to lose your wife when maybe your family is not going to understand why it is you're doing what you do then that's when they have to that's when you have to be ridiculed and that's when you have to be shamed so once we move on from breaking up those male spaces I've just got I had to I have to mention this I just saw a tweet this morning about the Cub Scouts and the Cub Scouts are now at least in Santa Cruz California have decided that they are going to have an exclusively female troop of Cub Scouts it's no longer the boys it's not well it's no longer the Boy Scouts because we took the word boy off there because we have to remove the man from the whole thing but it's just called the Scouts well now the Cub Scouts at least in Santa Cruz the first one of the first Cub Scout troop is now an all exclusively female Cub Scout troop so it is an assimilation into male space and then it is taking over that and turning it into something that it hasn't been that's one of the things I kind of worry about with the man is fear because I really if I have a fear or if I have any concerns about the man is fear is that it would be I don't say infiltrated from the outside because I think that that in a way that can happen but I think we're already there we're already in within we're our dangers are from within our dangers are from from you know learning something here and not all being kind of on the same page so what what I'm going to talk about next is going to sound really kind of tinfoil hattie it's it's hard not to but what I see is I see a gestalt of men you know what a gestalt is it's a gathering it's like it's it's putting together that it's a hole that is made up of parts that are less apart than they are in the hole and I think what we're seeing right now on a larger stage is the gestalt masculine is at war or going to war with the gestalt feminine and I think that one of the best illustrations that I can I can really relate to here was the the the election of 2016 we had Trump and we had Hillary we had a very super hyper masculine alpha male you know almost a parody of what our ideological enemies would call a masculine guy he's he's a he's a abuser he's a if you if you were to go now and we had if you were to run now and we had the me too movement already established he might not have been able to you know to run for the presidency but then we've got Hillary on the other side who represents the gestalt female all right she is hyper gynocentric she is she is the epitome of what what that collective mindset that collective you know what I call the femme power movement movement she is the epitome of that gestalt feminine and I think right now what we're seeing in in this day and age is we're looking for we're looking at what's going to become a gender war and I don't think it's going to be a gender war we're like we're going to actually come to blows maybe it will and we've talked to um we talked to uh mr swift yesterday I mean be ready for the zombie apocalypse well I don't think that's going to happen but with between men and women anyways but there's going to be a division there's going to be a dividing line between what side you're going to be on ideologically and what are the women who are going to be on that side and what are the women going to be on this side and I think right now we're seeing what what I would call a gender cold war and it's a war of words right now and it's a war of ideas right now and when we look at how instrumental something like the me too movement is and how useful that is and how it's become weaponized what you're looking at is you're looking at an attack from the gestalt female on the on the male is what do they say everything is about sex except for sex sex is about power right and so when we're looking at the power struggle between the men between men and women right now it doesn't matter what country you're in doesn't matter what your religion is the sisterhood uber Alice trans transcends all of that and people don't like it when I when I talk about the sisterhood in those terms but you have to look at that and you have to see that going on you used to see it what's going on in the in your social in your social circles but from the the micro to the macro so if you're looking at maybe it's your relationship with your wife maybe it's your relationship like we had a guy talking about with his kids maybe it is your church maybe it's maybe it's your job maybe it's um maybe it's a political statement okay one of the things that I'm going to we're going to get into the uh into the the workshop part here in just a moment not quite yet but uh what I wanted to run down as far as the situation of the atmosphere today is we have one large collective gestalt which I like to kind of think of as tribe human beings are tribalistic and for as much as Jordan Peterson would like to say that it's all about the individual it's all about the rights of the individual the problem is the problem with that is that we evolved to be tribes we evolved to be social animals we evolved to form coalitions and uh I've been uh been reading jack donovan's books uh quite recently uh when it comes to tribalism and I'm I'm trying to make some links right now between how our evolve mental firmware relates into our our predisposition to to create tribes or to work in tribalism now we're not saying that I'm not saying that we should have you know one guys against another guys but from within the managed for itself we have sub tribes uh first sub tribe that I think is kind of coming to prominence right now is migtau and it's really hard to argue against migtau because I really think that migtau has a lot of stuff right the only part of migtau that I disagree with is their solutions it's great to say let's take all women's rights away and let's uh let's remove their right to vote um if we want to increase our population above replacement level percentages we've got to do something because if you go and you look at countries um where there are feminist run countries when you look at sweden when you look at germany when you look at the uk when you look at all of these quote unquote egalitarian countries all of their birth rates all of their you know their uh was it fertility rates i guess for lack of a better term uh are all below replacement level but if you look at the more the more what we would call barbaric ones where women don't have the right to vote then women don't have a right for saying it's what what would popularly be called a patriarchy those do they have definitely have a replacement rate of of pregnancy so what does that say well it says that women and feminism in its sense in a sense has been responsible for lower birth rates it's been responsible for uh for lower well now lower marriage rates people say well you know people are not getting millennials are not getting divorced as often as they have been in the past well great but the problem is is millennials are not getting married anymore if you go and you look at the the marriage rates of millennials between the ages of 18 and 34 right now 70 percent of them are unmarried today and that's crazy when you go and you back and you look at like what what it was like in the 80s even in the 90s or certainly in the 70s and also the rate of uh marriage or the i should say the age of marriage has been pushed out to i think the average is now 27 years old so all of this within the time frame of when the sexual revolution happens so you're looking at the sexual well that's just if you peg the sexual revolution at probably around like 1968 maybe 1965 when you look at the introduction of a unilaterally controlled female controlled hormonal birth control and you look at the statistics now granted you know correlation is in causation but you can certainly see the correlation that goes along with all of that that's migtau uh men's rights movement there's another sub tribe of the of the manasphere uh if anybody has read my stuff about uh a voice from men or men's rights movement you will know that i am not a big fan of theirs um simply because i see them as being kind of the flip side of feminism they believed in the lie that feminism is about equality and they're still trying and striving for that equality it's one of the reasons they kind of lock horns with the the uh migtaus is because migtau's uh ultimate answer to everything is not something that would be approvable by the anti-feminist feminists that are part of the men's rights movement uh the other problem i have with the men's rights movement is that they presume to speak for us they presume to speak for the the totality of the manasphere until that press is bad until a kid shoots up uh you know downtown santa barbara until a kid uh says you know i'm red pill and who drives a car through a crowded group of girls or something like that and then they say well this guy was a red pill guy or this guy was was a manasphere guy or this guy was a you know a men's rights that's when men's rights go oh hey wouldn't us you know we're we're all about equality we all we just want to have a a much more equal you know we we believe feminism we just believe it from the way that men would do it uh then there's of course the pickup artistry and i think if you ever read any of my work on i've got it it's in the book as well i have a post and a chapter um devoted to um describing and sort of laying out the history of how we've gone from a fast seduction in like say the the late nineties and early two thousands the mystery method the uh you know the rsd stuff uh all of that working up through the ages i think once one of the things that we get ridiculed for a lot particularly in the manasphere is people tend to think of us as pickup artists they tend to think of us as migtail they tend to think of us as one thing now there are parts of migtail that i agree with there are parts of pickup artistry i definitely agree with i think game is as an a practical important part of becoming red pill aware uh i there's some of the stuff that the man is are assuming that the men's rights movement have done has been really great they are a top down approach whereas i've always been a bottoms up approach i think working you know each one tell one it's one of the reasons i have you guys pass on my book to you know whoever you think happens to need it so i think that the ideas need to be developed and they need to evolve and they need to be internalized whereas i think that the men's rights movement they're they're mistaken in thinking that all it's going to take is changing laws you've got to change minds before you can change the laws then we've got the trad cons and we've been talking about them not too long ago and now i think what's what's happening is the trad cons from within the and trad cons stands for traditional conservatives there is an element right now that has decided that they want to um they want to be a part of the red pill they want to say that they're part of the red pill and the red pill as a term has become kind of a loose brand and they want to be part of that brand only they want the parts that they are comfortable in relating with those are the parts that might agree with the bible it might agree with islam it might agree with judaism it might agree with whatever their ideological or their religious backgrounds is and i'll get a lot of guys will say well you know christianity has always been a catholicism christianity has always been red pill let me tell you why and i'll go and say this and to get really upset when somebody like me or pickup artist of all people tells them your religion has been assimilated if you look at how feminism has kind of worked its way or wiggled its way into your ideology and your and your religious convictions they don't like that they get upset with that and they don't like to argue or they they like to argue i should say against the evolutionary side of things if i'm relying on evolutionary psychology or evolutionary biology for some of the points that i make just attach the word evolution to it and and they get upset so there's a traditional side of it but they want to be a part of it they're not against it but they're not wholly along with it and so this i'm trying to i'm trying to make this as succinct as i possibly can because i really want to move on to the swap assessment here in a moment um and then finally we're from within the manifest here kind of what uh ryan stone was getting into we have the self-improvement gurus we have the guys like tony robbins we have the guys like i would throw uh jordan peterson in there i wouldn't call jordan peterson red pill in in some respects i guess he kind of gets it but guys like jordan peterson guys like steven pinker guys like um dr warren ferrell i love him to death i honestly gotta people to say well you got a problem with jordan peterson i don't have a problem with jordan peterson uh i think i'm frustrated by those guys because they have all these answers they have done the work particularly steven pinker has all of this work and all of this uh this hard empirical data that pretty much backs up anything that i've written in my books i mean when i'm when i'm doing research i'm citing sources those are the guys that i'm citing but these are the same guys who are maybe not jordan peterson but steven pinker says i'm a feminist even after all of this even after seeing all this stuff and seeing that writing the blank slate uh you know pretty much denying everything that i've ever written or i said denying but uh agreeing with anything i've ever written about equalism or egalitarianism and he just does not want to go the next step while i'm willing to go the next step and that's what i've been doing here and that's how i've been saving lives for you know the last 12 years all right so i think that one of the things that we really need to understand about the sisterhood and about this gestalt gender war versus you know men boys versus girls though they're on their side of the playground and we're on our side of the playground is what it's leading to right now is segregation and this unfortunately i would consider being a segregation right now men are afraid to work with women and women say oh well it's just because you're you're insecure in your masculinity and um and you don't want to work with women you don't want to go uh it's like the mike pence rule uh you don't want to go and be in the same room as a woman because you never know if you're going to get me too in fact we even turn me too is no longer just a movement it's a verb now we say you got me tooed i don't want to get me tooed and we're i mean we're telling our kids this we're telling our young boy we're telling a teenage boys don't you go out with susie or if you are make sure you're with your friends or make sure you're in a group of other guys because if you get alone with her she can make up any damn story that she wants to now that seems like really you know really extreme because it's like how can you just not be you know hang out and be with your friends and do whatever you're gonna do the problem is is that is the environment and that is the atmosphere that we now live in today we have to be concerned about those things now if if little billy is concerned about that you can pretty much damn well be sure that the guys who just raised their hand a minute ago because they're afraid that they're if they get found out about coming to this this engagement that they were going to get fired what does that say about their work environment what does that say they say that uh powerful men hide behind open doors now and so we have to keep it open we have to have the mike pence rule the same thing flows into into churches right now what we're seeing is kind of a new form of segregation it's sexual segregation now it used to be that in more orthodox churches we would have the men would be on the one side and the women would be on the other the women have their their heads covered and the men would read from whatever religious texts that they were reading and there was a separation of them and when they were in social situations the men would be over here and the women will be over here and they did that because it was an observation of a religious conviction now we do the same thing or we're beginning to do the same thing we're beginning to become more segregated because we have to we have to do it for our own protection and this is where I think like migtau's going to take it a little overboard but are they really overboard I'm not sure that they are I think they're probably in some instances they're they're right about that and you can go and pick and pull stories that back up whatever it is your your pet insecurity is but there's a lot of those stories this day as I was saying before the me too movement has been weaponized and it is it's vitally important to see what me too was intended to be and what me too is right now okay at first it was just raising awareness how many of you guys know that me too the hashtag me too has been around since 2006 it's been that long but it hasn't been popularized until Harvey Weinstein's his case which it's looking like you're not going to hear about hear from him for very much longer because that might even go away and then we go and we see what happens with Asia Argento we see what happened with Rose McGowan we see what happens with with the actual movement itself it's not about actually pinning these guys it's not about stopping anything it's not even really about raising awareness so much as it is a weapon to control you to keep you from from gathering together to keep you worried to keep your doors open to to segregate men from women right now and it has become weaponized but I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna just I'm gonna go a little bit further with this right now I see me too being a a tool to implement a new form of consent and that new form of consent sexual consent is enthusiastic consent it used to be no means no that was what the 80s 90s then it was I remember because I wrote this I wrote a a piece called yes means yes and that's when yes mean yes was okay can I touch you here yes okay can I uh can I grab him by the pussy yeah okay I got all right can I in it and you call him you got this list of things right and so that was just that was yes means yes and now we're getting to the point where even yes does not mean yes we can go back one of the reasons that me too does not have a statute of limitations is so that we can go and rewind the clock as far back as we want to because it's convenient because that's what we even if it's just rape is one thing I understand that rape is bad I'm not gonna not gonna think so well if you're gonna if you're gonna be against me too then you're gonna you must be for rape no I'm not for rape it's not binary stop thinking like this is one thing I will tell my critics it's especially female critics is it's not a binary yes on or off it's we're defining terms what is what is rape what is misconduct can it be from the time I was you know 13 years old how about when I'm 23 I mean in in my worst fevered nightmares I think that perhaps one of the girls that I knew back God forbid my my old BPD girlfriend comes out of the woodworking says I know that guy his name is not really old Tomasi it's so and so and so and he he raped me back when I was 22 and we can just as easily do that with any guy in this room they can make up any story they want to if you got a guy that goes you know I kind of remember you guys two you two together but I don't know any yet I don't know anything about that well just because the fact that somebody remembered you two together that's enough because right now it is a default position of believe women and that's one thing I think the Manisphere has to be really concerned about these days is these default bumper sticker t-shirts slogans that make up social contracts that make up social positions so we have to be really concerned when we go to those binary extremes so that that I think is another another area I could probably do an entire talk on just the me too thing but we have to understand that me too has become weaponized okay and we have to see where that's going just as much as we need to see where the Manisphere itself is going so at this point I'm going to start the the workshop here what I want to do is I'm going to start talking about a few things that I think are the strengths the weaknesses the opportunities and the threats to the Manisphere and like I said the reason that I'm doing this is because I don't want to be the only guy saying okay this is where everything's going this is what I think I want everyone's you know collaboration on this just as if we're in a form or whatever so what I'm going to do from here on out is I think we're going to start with strengths and I'm going to get I'm going to throw out a couple of strengths here that I think are good and then and then we'll move on from there okay one of the strengths that I see in the Manisphere and you're going to hate this because it sounds bad but it's our diversity it's because we look around this look around this room if you look at our critics right now our critics will say well it's just a bunch of white guys and they're all Nazis and they're all misogynists and they're all neckbeards and they're all you know they're anything but what they are because they're nervous when people get together they're nervous not at the demographics of us but the ideas itself but our Democrat our demographics are very diverse I see black men here I see white men here today I see Asian people here today I you know we are a much broader consortium of men than I think our critics will ever give us you know a fair shake for I guess so I really think that you know the the red pill as well but the Manisphere is very stronger I think because we have that diversity and now I'm going to say that in a sense that I know that Royce once said that diversity plus proximity equals war okay but you have to understand I that was only within a context that is only within opposing ideologies opposing ideas opposing tribes right here we have to come together as men and find our voice and find where we're gonna go with this because we're being noticed more and more each day I'll tell you more about the the the lady from the New York Times who wanted to come and cover all of this yeah yeah we had to we had to put the gabbash on that one right we're I was saying this before we are a bottoms up organization each man tell another man I have talked with several of you guys about you know how you passed on your book to your son in fact I think there's a there's a son and a father here today too it was we did that also at the man-in-demand conference I'm always impressed when we have a guy say when when's the right time to give my son your the rational male like healthy 15 years old he's probably not interested in reading this kind of stuff so but maybe later maybe he is maybe he's a reader but I think we need to really I think one of the strengths that we have is that we're a bottoms up organization that we are based on ideas we're an organization of ideas rather than an organization of doctrines we're not a church we are not a cult I am not a cult leader I'm not a you know I'm not a Tony Robbins so I really think that our bottoms up approach is what needs to I think it needs to flourish a little bit more too to be honest with you imagine you know I constantly have people say well you know if I get into divorce settlement and the the the judge is you know a white knight or the judge is really blue pill I'm screwed you know I'm gonna I'm gonna owe alimony more alimony than I probably should or he's gonna believe her bullshit I said yeah but what if he was red pill what if that guy had read the rational male what if that guy had come to this convention what if that guy was even just curious about you know the things that are going on with masculinity today if you can change those minds if you can put the ideas or what counts you can kill me you can kill us but you can't kill the idea you need to keep the idea going and going and that idea evolves so I think our bottoms up approach is a strength I also think that the man is fear and certainly the certainly the red pill the red pill needs to stay a praxology and people always ask me what the hell is a praxology well praxology is the study of human behavior from the respect that human behavior has purpose it's not like breathing or something it's like it's I love I love the term because I'm I have a behavioral psychology background so praxology is really something that is I think it's an objective science but it's also very loose science so I'm gonna pick and pull I'm gonna say okay here's what the evidence says from from evolutionary psychology here's what the evidence says from evo bio here's what the evidence says from this sociological study and I think that keeping a keeping an objective understanding of those things is a strength of the man's fear we need to be ideologically neutral I've said this before I said the red pill needs to stay apolitical a religious a racial it's one of the reasons why I have a problem with heart east and roissy I love what he says about game but I'm not on board with him when it comes to issues of race when it comes to issues of politics and things like that simply because it's not my wheelhouse and other people can do it better than I can but when it comes to issues of race when it comes to issues of religion when it comes to those kinds of those things that people really ego invest themselves in and really take personally I don't talk about those unless it crosses over into intersexual dynamics and I think that that is one of the strengths of the man's fear and then finally I think well I think the I think we're more ideologically sound I thought but I think we're more scientifically sound one of the ways I know this is because I think that a lot of our ideas are starting to take root in the mainstream I'll give you an example of that recently at on Joe Rogan's podcast they had Jordan Peterson on there once more and Jordan Peterson started referring to hypergamy and I was surprised by this because most of the time actually for the last probably like 10 years I have been struggling to expand the definition of hypergamy I've been trying to say look it's not just the sociological definition which is you know a tendency for a woman to marry up socioeconomically no it's much more than that and it's about dominance hierarchies and it's about ovulatory shift and there's anybody who saw my first talk from last year knows that there's so much more to hypergamy than just that that really you know tight definition so here's Jordan Pearson talking to Joe Rogan he's using the definition that I have been trying to get guys to use for a very long time and I'm like holy shit he must be reading my stuff right well if you go on google and you google hypergamy after the wiki and the urban dictionary you'll see my my blog I own hypergamy as far as the term is concerned from from from google so I think that our our ideas are starting to sort of percolate and sort of getting into the mainstream a little bit more and then finally I think one of the strengths and you guys can throw out another one here if you want to you don't think I've hit anything please please let me know but I think one of the the biggest strengths is our decentralization okay the no one is the father of the red pill as much as ruche would like to paint himself as the father of the red pill he is not the father of the red pill neither am I neither is roissy but we all are we are an aggregate of each other's experiences and I think that is a strength because what it is is it keeps it keeps our opposition playing whack-a-mole I think they don't know you know who oh but I talked to rollo oh better talk to anthony I better talk to rich I better talk to ryan you know and it there is no one spokesperson for for uh for the red pill and certainly not for the atmosphere uh anybody else got an idea for strength it's got you can call it out or you can bring up the oh hang on I'll repeat it back each of us have a personal self-interest in our own happiness yes yeah very much so and that is and we're pursuing that despite what we are told we're not supposed to be doing we're not supposed to gather together we're not supposed to uh to to organize that's that organization it's those male spaces that's where they're destroying male spaces anybody else with the strength before I move on more over here we can mentor each other mentoring each other yeah that's a good damn I should have put that one on there uh yeah mentoring each other mentoring your kids raising your kids in a red in a red pill paradigm yes that is that is definitely a strength something coming up okay I'm going to go one more back here let's say openness everybody's welcome to discuss uh whatever right from drugs to anything basically exactly and we're trying and we can talk about pretty much anything I was talking to these guys earlier and they're saying they came up to me and I think we're talking to Anthony it was well they're saying thank you for bring bringing guys together and we don't have to worry about people calling us gay I was like all right cool yeah got it um and the reason for that is I think it was uh George Bruno was saying that there was a gal at the uh at the bar um when we first got here and the woman said uh what is this a sausage fist this is like a gathering of gay dudes because of course men gathering together can't get together for any other reason unless they're gay because that's that's one of the ways that they shame men that's one of the ways that the gynaocracy separates us because if there's three guys together then there's something a little bit strange with these guys even though you might just be getting together to go fishing with your buddies or you maybe you got a a couple of guys who you go lift weights with people are going to look at you a little bit funny the reason for that is because they want to break down our ability to organize into our ability to and because in our organization we're doing what we are here is we're sharing ideas and I don't want that sharing of ideas now the last one I'm going to throw on here for strength is we have timeless ideas in an age that is very very chaotic okay uh like I was saying before in um in religion a lot of people like to claim the the red pill as their own we like to we like to take the best of the red pill and make it whatever it is and we don't want to have anything to do with those pickup artists but uh but the red pill is great let me show you this passage in proverbs and isn't this red pill or look at this one over here in Ecclesiastes this is this is red pill right and yes it is because it's timeless it's a timeless idea it's a timeless connection with masculinity that the writers of the bible knew we maybe even before that I've had guys show me passages from the Bhagavad Gita that really this is red pill like cool great it is but it's a timeless idea and I think bringing that back up bringing masculinity back into the forefront I think I think feminism has brought the the gestalt feminine into such power that they don't know what they're doing with it right now so those are some strengths um let's see weaknesses this was the easiest one for me to do because there's so many weaknesses that I want to address but I'm just going to throw out a few of them here most of our weaknesses start from within the sphere itself the same diversity of that as a strength is also a weakness of purpose many ego we have many egos here and those egos tend to dilute our solidarity okay now the reason that I put this on there is because I think one of our primary weaknesses today is the brand of me okay it's the brand of everybody else because in the internet age what are we told we can go to any seminar and it's like how to get rich online how to be your own brand all the time it's me incorporated I think is the name of the of the book but we're all our own brand today we all have our personal training we all have our you know our masculinity exercises we all have our little niche I mean I sell books I'm the brand of role Tomasi okay Jordan Peterson Tony Robbins RSD has decided that they want to go and be a power of positive thinking instead of actually talk about game anymore but that's them that's the brand of them and what I see is that we live in an age where personal branding is paramount we are all marketing experts of ourselves okay and that's while we all have a product and there's nothing wrong with selling that product that but that can't be at the expense of selling out the message of the red pill now when I decided that I wanted to become a part of the 21 convention the first thing I told Anthony and really the first thing I told Rich when we were starting the red man group is that we have to stay on message even if it's at the price of whatever it is that we're doing we have to be put first and foremost the advancements and the benefit of men understanding red pill truths of unplugging from the matrix of becoming red pill aware and if we're doing something that is at the expense of that message we're doing it for ourselves we're trying to make we're trying to turn a buck on I don't have any problem with people trying to you know okay I'm going to go get my my beard balm or something like that's fine but what I'm saying is that if it comes at the expense of not passing on this knowledge not mentoring um of selling out the the red pill selling out the manosphere that's where I take issue with that so that's the brand of me the next weakness I see is the purple pill and people think that because I use a purple pill I'm using it as an invective I'm saying you're purple you know or it's like uh it's like I use it as a pejorative but it's really a designation okay now I could probably sit here and do a whole another talk on why guys go purple pill they go purple pill because they get into the red pill and they feel drawn to a lot of the truths but they can't let go of the comforts that the blue pill has sort of put into them for a long time and so as a result of that they invest themselves again in the brand of me and that brand of me includes a little bit of the red pill because they want to have access to you guys that's another strength by the way is that we are our own niche market we are our own like you know how do you know how much advertisers would love to have access to an all-male market to be able to say here buy my uh you know buy my tactical soap buy my uh you know buy my pants because today advertisers don't advertise to men they advertise to women to buy things for their men and because they can't reach it they don't you know they don't understand a masculine marketplace but what that does is it makes organizations like this it makes the hemisphere a very uh a very lucrative market for certain things and one of those is self-improvement we were just talking about the lost boys generation while my heart goes out to those guys and while I don't mind you know I'm glad I can save every one of their lives that's that's great but I can't deny the fact that that lost boy generation those millennial men are there because they've been they're the result of just decades and decades of blue pill conditioning and blue pill conditioning from their blue pill fathers and from their blue pill fathers before that so there are the sum total of of a conditioning has been going on since the sexual revolution but nonetheless they are a market these they uh ad agencies marketeers profiteers they would love to be a part of that they would love to to capitalize on the insecurities of the lost generation okay so guys who can't kill the beta or they were all comfortable with parts of the red pill but still they see the market for the brand of me they want to sell the they want to sell the qualifications okay they want to sell the aspects the self-improvement side but not the side that might offend women so they'll go out to a point and they'll say yeah I'm gonna I I'm really red pill but if there's something in the red pill that's very unflattering to the feminine that's when they pull back from that that's when they go oh my you know I'm red pill but my wife might get mad if I go and promote this idea or women in general might get mad or maybe they are appealing almost universally to a female audience so there are uh uncomfortable truths that purple pillars are going to avoid because it's not marketable the same applies to rsd and their truthful anger I don't know if everybody understands what I mean by truthful anger when rsd and oan and these guys decided that they had to recognize me that they had to you know they had to understand that enough guys in their audiences were saying hey have you read the rational mail what do you think about this part right here in the rational mail and so suddenly they are forced to take look they're forced to recognize what I'm talking about because they get in enough of guys to do that well they can't deny the truths that are in red pill awareness they can't deny those things but they don't so what do they do when those truths go against what it is they're trying to sell to men well they got to say well that roller he's he's really on top of his game and he knows what he's talking about but man he's angry he's really angry he's he's he's very cynical and it's like I'm not cynical what I am is I'm truthful and I'm telling these guys something that's going against your marketing scheme so if I'm going to go out there and I'm going to say uh you know women are hypergamists they're going to go well all he ever talks about is hypergaming that's all he's going to talk about and I like no I talk about a whole lot more than that but you have to characterize me in such a way that that it seems like I'm angry I'm coming off as angry well I'm relating this truth so they say well you know he's got he's got his shit together but he's it's truthful anger it's like no it just goes against what it is that you're trying to to market so they can't deny the truth but the anger that comes from disillusionment isn't marketable for a profit model that is based on pep rallies and power of positive thinking so if you're always positive all the time you can't be angry you can't be cynical you can't be nihilistic and that's part of unplugging everyone anyone in this room who has unplugged themselves from the matrix who has unplugged themselves from from their old blue pill conditioning has probably gone through at least four or the five stages of unplugging and those those are you know anger nihilism acceptance it's basically all this all the same stages of grief and why are you why are you uh in grief because you killed off the old person that was you you're you're grieving the person that you can't be anymore and you're grieving the dead dreams that you had before but that doesn't fit into come on guys let's go out there and jump up and down we're all gonna be happy and and we're gonna go out and kill the drag you know slay the dragon or whatever you don't that doesn't sell and so i see that as a as a definite way purple pill is definitely a weakness right now that also leads me to what we have done on the red man group which is we done a an episode on what we call success porn okay success porn feeds into that as well rsd has kind of turned itself into success porn um tony robbins i would say is success porn it's all of these you know build yourself up build up your confidence get out there and go do it guys rah rah rah you know it's like nike you just go do it and you're gonna pay three thousand dollars four thousand dollars to go see a seminar with tony robbins there with probably ten thousand twenty thousand other guys and how many of those guys do you know are entrepreneurs how many of those guys you know buying into the success porn trap but so success porn they say the red pill eventually leads to a desire to improve or it leads to isolation okay you can cross the abyss of nihilism or you can do something to improve yourself okay even migthouse wants you want to like to believe that they are they're better okay everybody doesn't get into the manosphere because um because they're already great they don't come seek us out we don't advertise the manosphere you have to come and find it out you got most of the guys that i have talked to uh you know since i've been doing my riding have always been dudes that have been like how do i get my girlfriend back how do i uh um you know how do i we're get a lot roll i lost frame help me with friends always the same patterns and all that they're finding it not because i put an ad somewhere or i put a billboard somewhere they're finding it because they're hungry for it they need those answers and they go online why google has all the answers right so i'll go find on here um anybody else want to throw out a weakness weaknesses weaknesses um so um i think it's something that we're we're lacking in right now it has to do with arts and culture um specifically kind of like what goldman talked about yesterday is we need more um artists musicians filmmakers to come out with messages that represent this stuff and for people to enthusiastically support it financially and with their emotions um for example uh shortly after the election there was this tv show um american horror story and the main character who was this psycho killer um on the opening scene they show him on the internet um on the red pill i remember that and i remember seeing that and a meal i just stopped watching it we need to withdraw our support and things from things that at work uh counteractive right and i'll give you another example of that anybody seen the uh the red pill movie by cassie j yeah her journey of feminist self-discovery and now suddenly she's not a feminist i remember when that first came out and i i tried to raise the alarm i tried to say look this is not going to be about the red pill this is going to be about her it's uh once again it's a voice for men throwing them you know throwing their lot in with a feminist and what happened two years later two years now later she's still out there broadcasting it as a not a movie about the mens rights movement but about a movie about her journey of self-discovery and so this is exactly what i said it was going to happen uh when she first came out because she first came out and she said something about like oh i i can't get the money for distribution i got to start a kickstarter nobody even knew who she was until mike cernovich popped up and said i'm going to put $10,000 into this and if you guys match me then she'll get funded and then my leonopolis came out and he said something about that and so suddenly she's petitioning the very manifest fear she didn't want to have anything to do with because she never called me she wanted they were happy to call it the red pill uh they are happy to uh capitalize on that brand and i'm glad you said that because that is one of the weaknesses of the manifest fear right now is we need to take control of our messaging we need to be the ones out there creating things we need to be the ones who are saying that's not what the manifest fear is about this is what the manifest fear is about and it's certainly not about a red you know just because the red pill is a nice convenient brand it doesn't mean you own that brand it does that's the first thing that polylum said to me all you red pill is just truth you don't have to you know it's not anything you own well guess what the next time a kid goes and guns down santa barbara and they say he says he's red pill they're not coming from me they're coming for you now sir because you've decided that you want to be you know the spokesperson for the red pill but yeah you are exactly right and i think that is a it's a weakness that we need to turn into a strength uh i would also say that we have to be a little bit more concerned i think this is really more of a threat but um i think we need to be a little bit more concerned about virtue signaling uh when it comes to trad cons when it becomes something when i should say and really this is kind of like for for women or red pill women they like to be associated with the red pill because they end up getting to the point and they're like say they're a epiphany phase where they decide you know what i better get right with god or i better get right with myself right now and all of these guys in the red pill seem like they have the shit together i'd really like to attract them but i've got three kids from two different husbands and i really want to prove to these guys that i am uh i'm their perfect trad con wife or the perfect red pill wife and so what they do is they go and do exactly what you're saying is they go and they take the red pill to be their own terms or their own term and so what they do is they they do similar to what purple pill guys do is they will take the red pill uh moniker and apply it to themselves and it will end up be you know what they say making your necessity a virtue well the best way to do that is to simply call yourself red pill and that you know uh you're you're on board with all of the uh the ideology or all all on board with the ideas i should say with with the red with the red pill up until the point up until the point where it is no longer flattering for the feminine anymore uh and then that's where they have to draw the line so i think those we have to be really conservative or really uh concerned with trad cons because there's a real risk of replacing the empirical truths of what should be or for what should be because i don't deal and should i deal in what is okay and i think that virtue signalers are really all about what should be so they don't want they don't really want i had said this before trad cons don't want the red pill they want a time machine they want to be able to turn back the clock and go back to the golden ages the 1950s and have things turned back into the way they were i think even kind of in a naive way i think mig towels are kind of the same too like they think that if enough guys go mig towel that um that everybody else is going to get on board like oh there's going to be enough guys and women will finally say oh mr mig towel please we we didn't know that you were going to uh to get so many men together and agree with you and uh now we're going to behave you know we're going to give up our rights we're going to do we're going to do what you said because we suddenly we've seen the light and i like i said i think that's a little bit naive um what they rest they desperately want to reconcile a traditional a traditionalist soulmate idea or this one-itis idea um with red pill truths okay i kind of see that like i said going along with the purple pill uh the purple pill movement as well uh anybody else with a weakness that they think that should be covered okay one more guy over here yeah i think another weakness is i think there might be a tendency and and maybe this is just true on the reddit uh like on the reddit forums is there tends to be almost like a disdain for guys that like myself that lean more towards an ltr like if you're not a sexual nomad just looking for the next wet hole to stick it in that you're some you're not you know you'd like this blue pill piece of shit right and i'll tell you the other thing that gets that and that that is definitely a weakness okay i also see that it goes the other way as well whether there's a guys who are all all about an ltr and they're all about marriage and if you're not uh if you're not working on having three or four kids then you're a worthless piece of shit because you're just enjoying the decline and going downhill so there's two there's two sides of that but i i do agree with you i understand i think that that's one actually should be one of the strengths of the math sphere is again that's our diversity right there i can come up here and i could give you a a talk about game i can talk to you about borderline personality disorder women i can talk to you about marriage i can talk to you about raising kids i can talk to you about a lot of different things that that have to do with with positive masculinity and red pill awareness uh but i don't have to do that that's the best part is if you wanted to come up on stage and talk about you know why why an ltr works really good for you and why people should you know get off your case for that i would invite you to come up here same with hunter is going to give a speech or he gave a speech last i know what you're going to give a speech this year but um last year i i felt that hunter was uh hunter was a good person to to talk about those things to talk about the the ltr side of things the uh you know it's it borders on self-improvement but i think it's necessary that's one of the reason i think you're right but again we counter those weaknesses with the strengths that we have so if i can come up here and talk about those things or we can have goldman come up here we can have christian mcqueen or we can have we have just such a breadth of of topics that we can relate to or we can talk about um i think that that's also a strength but i do understand what you're saying that that's and it's it's leaning too far i think to one side of that people give me that all the time they say you know how can you say the things that you do you're married man you're you you don't have anything legitimate to say because you've been married for you for 22 years and they're like well i wrote rachel mail man is that a counter something you know and then so then the other guys who are like pickup artists you know will tell me that but then the other guys who say like if i if i criticize marriage and i say you know what i have a fantastic marriage but for me to say that i would not advise marriage to anyone in this room under the present circumstances i think the institution of marriage is a great idea i think how it's done right now is a complete one-sided death sentence to most guys so i would never advise getting married but how can i say that you're married for 20 years and i've got you know a beautiful child and i live a pretty good life you know well that isn't you know your mileage may vary i you know i'm not you and that's one of the reasons i don't give prescriptions and i'm glad you brought that up because i wanted to say that is i think that there is an over dependency on prescriptions i need 12 rules for life jordan please tell me what i should do you know that is there's not the red pill is not one size fits all and that's a good example so i'm going to run through um some opportunities here okay the manospheres a reliable consortium of men and what we do as a whole is threatening to the gestalt feminine but it is also the only group that is willing to push back on the narrative no one cares about the pussies like the good man project or we are are are we man enough i think that's what it was because i've been looking at some of these guys are anybody familiar with the good man project good yeah thank you all right yeah the good man project are basically what i call vici males and if you don't know what the word vici means look up the vici french from world war two they are the french that collaborated with the nazis when they took her when they invaded their country okay so when i say a vici male what i mean is i mean men who have sort of sold themselves out to the the gestalt feminine so people you know it's a convenient term but that's what i mean when i'm talking about that these are the guys who the male feminists who are going to eventually have me too allegations thrown at them all right it's because the song it's because the gestalt feminine knows that they are compliant okay the red pill is content or is contentious with them so we have the attention of men uh again i think one of the opportunities like i said if we use it right is that this collection this consortium of men can become sort of its own networking group so i've got guys right now who want to start a brand a liquor with me i have some guys who want or i think i haven't thrown just started his own brand of cigars i got one last night right uh you'll see some of the in the swag bags you know it's mostly these man products but there i think there's a potential for so much more in that so i i think it's it's important that we protect ourselves as sort of a niche market but we also need to exploit ourselves or bring ourselves up as a niche market as well um anybody else an opportunity i want to give you guys some time to talk here anybody think about an opportunity hey ro i think one of the biggest opportunities the the men's sphere as a whole has is to create a new moral framework on which we can like base our existence in our lives because i think we we threw out religion traditions whatever and that was kind of the scaffolding that held us together that was like the old book of rules and i believe that we have the opportunity to create the new book of rules yeah the news scaffolding a third set of books right um what i understand exactly what you're saying because right up until about the time of the sexual revolution we had an older social contract that was based on really kind of male provisioning uh men could i mean one of the one of the promises really of quote unquote enforcement agame was that it was going to be a wife for every dude you know they remember that old saying oh somebody for everybody you know and that's where that soulmate myth came out and that's where oneitis really started and so we have this old set of social social norms or social contracts that we we believe and that really i think a lot of guys really naive guys when they talk about marriage they look at it from that old social contract but then they discover the marriage industry and then they discover if anybody hasn't seen this i knew i had to say this if anybody hasn't seen divorce incorporated look up that movie on netflix i think it's on netflix uh divorce incorporated will show you just what a juggernaut the marriage and divorce industry really is and how it you choose you up and spits you out i mean it's it might take you you might say hey man i got married after being with it for six months and we've been married for another six months so it's been a year yeah i'll take you eight years to get divorced um it's just that there is there's so much money to be made within the divorce industry that it's uh that's one of the things that really kind of scares me i remember when i start talking about threats here but yeah i think you're right as far as uh starting a new starting a third set of books starting and where are we going from that i think a lot of people think the way forward is really sort of regressing backwards to um to to compromising the red pill well i don't think we need to compromise red pill awareness we need we need to enforce well enforce it but we need to uh to reinforce that and we need to create a third set of books i always i always talk about this first set in the second set of books i think you're right i think we need to move on for them we have an opportunity to do that and we have an opportunity to do that here particularly if everybody feels like they have uh they have a say in it right here one more for opportunities i think we have an opportunity to teach men how to create tribe you talk about the sisterhood but men tend to operate independently right you know for me that's true what we can teach men here and beyond to operate as a group and their own interests positively the positive masculinity i have been i don't know if jack's jack donovan's here but i've been reading jack's books a lot and i understand i have a new appreciation for just how evolved tribalism is to the human race i mean we're social animals we don't like to call it tribalism but that's really what we are that's what what we we form if you've got a group of friends that you go and do something with that's a tribe i've got i can think of right now there's probably i've got probably like five different social circles back in rena Nevada and those are like my little tribes like here's a tribe of the guys i work with here's a tribe of the guys that i go fishing with here's a tribe you know whatever um we don't think of it in those terms but yeah and then again it's it's each one tell one it's it's seeing that guy hurting seeing that guy at a traumatic part and is like a point in his life and saying hey why don't you read this why don't you check this out why don't you why don't you check out these boys i think i'll one of the reasons i wrote a physical book and i actually push the physical book more than anything is because it's for whatever reason has more legitimacy than just saying oh go check out this blog you know if you just saw my blog you said well roll is great but you know if you got a book sitting in your hand that's another thing um now finally i think we need to move on to threats here before i run out of time um i think one of the greatest threats that we have right now is gynocentrism okay and by that i mean i said this is not the feminine imperative and people always ask me whoa because i the god the term gynocentrism is really i think it's either migtau or it's mra's that have used this as a catchall phrase now i kind of look at things from a different angle when it comes to the feminine imperative if i if i talk about like feminine primary social order that's more along the lines of what they would call the the gynocracy or the or gynocentrism it means thinking about it means making womankind your mental point of origin at all times and we are we have that hammered into our heads all the time whereas the feminine imperative i see as whatever is beneficial to the feminine no matter what it is uh the feminine imperative in my my estimate has existed ever since womankind has been part of the human race okay it's whatever benefits a woman that's how she gets to it if maybe it's her sexual strategy maybe it's her life strategy but it's whatever benefits her now for the gynocracy this is the political arm of this okay it is the control arm of the narrative um what was i saying they have no beliefs because they are ruled by emotion now i don't know if anybody has read i did a series about recently about instinct the instinctual interpretive process the emotional interpretive process and the rational process and i kind of broke that down in terms of how we go about thinking um when we when we see something we have new stimuli in us you know coming at us from the environment we either we we we interpret it instinctually we interpret it emotionally and we were interpret it rationally so men tend to lean more towards rational or women tend to lean more towards the emotional it's what they prioritize it doesn't mean that women can't use reason they can it's just that's not the first default that's not their first priority the first priority is to interpret things emotionally whereas for men it's to really kind of interpret it instinctually and then rationally and then maybe come back and say okay how does this make me feel you know it's just how we prioritize things it's also very similar to how we do how we communicate um so anyways uh i think gynocentrism is one i want to get through these real quick uh i think more the moral panic that is me too is another threat to the man's fear uh again i also think that the dilution of our message sort of watering down it is a threat to us and i also think that the resistors you know resist the resistance is is yet another way of calling the gynocracy what it is because when people want to be they think they're resisting some evil empire only they don't really realize that they are the mainstream but they are the ones the gynocracy is actually the side of the equation that is setting the tone that is setting all that now i before i end this and i'm gonna go to questions and if anybody wants to talk about threats that's fine as well but i was going to use a a video here um for youtube but i figured i probably better not because i don't want to get deplatformed and that deplatforming is the last thing i want to talk about threats because we've just seen what happened to ruche we've just seen what happened to the uh the red pill subreddit we are on reddit we and i when that happened and i wanted to make this a real point to say is when that happened when i saw what happened with ruche and how he got deplatformed and how they just basically one day his books are there and the next day they're gone now from an economic standpoint i know i know for a fact that ruche doesn't do much else except for sell books he doesn't do much else except for you know collect ad revenue from returna kings and now all of that is going somewhere else and i'm not really sure what he's going to do so i look at that from a revenue point of view but for a guy like me i have other streams of revenue i this is not this is not my day job um and so if i were to say if amazon were to say okay we're going to turn off the we're going to drop the spicket i would still be okay i have other skills i have other talents i can do other things i could probably you know certainly start something else new if i had to but what would crush me would be knowing that the people that um um the people that had their lives changed by my work wouldn't have access to that anymore that they wouldn't be able like the men who are would be seeking something like this the the suicides i mean we have five men have five times the rate of suicide that women that women do what what do they have again it's it's it's tearing us apart it's it's it's diluting our message it's it's devaluing us and i'll and make no mistake right now the gynaocracy or the gestalt feminine is paying attention to what's going on in this room or they want to know what's going on in this room uh but my greatest fear is losing that engagement that my books have with guys i have so many guys coming yeah i mean how many people in this room have had their lives changed or have had their lives literally saved by any one of my books that's what i mean and that's what i mean it's like imagine you didn't have access to that imagine you couldn't buy it from imagine you had to go find it on some obscure you know website or somewhere imagine me trying to imagine me trying to go to a traditional publisher and saying this is this book i got called rational mail and here let me tell you what's inside of it do you think i would get published probably not that is what concerns me the most is this new censorship and it is orwellian censorship is we're going to crush you or you know we're gonna we're gonna erase you and that's what they've done with alex jones you know i'd say what you want about alex jones the the scary part of that is the believe women part of that it's the scary part of that is just how easily within i think what was it 12 hours that he was erased same with her same with ruche it's not that ruche's stuff was all that offensive i mean they sell a book on amazon called come for bigfoot okay i mean it's called i mean literally it is bigfoot porn written by a woman but and the reason i know about this because she makes like 30 000 a month on this thing right and i'm like holy shit yeah they can sell that but they can't sell game they can't sell bang they can't sell pussy paradise they can't sell that stuff no it's because they wanted to erase ruche they wanted to what he wrote about this a long time ago they wanted to take his bread they stole his bread they pulled away his capacity and his ability to disseminate and have they taken away his freedom of speech no they haven't but they've taken away his ability to disseminate it widely so that other people can either benefit from it or even really criticize it it's a stifling of debate and i've never been a free speech advocate i've always you know focused myself more on nuts and bolts and helping guys you know with their lives and helping guys you know like my my point in life from my point in writing was to avoid other men putting a noose around their necks like my brother-in-law did and i think i'm i'm happy to say that it's it's it's been well received and it's saved a lot of lives but imagine some purple hair feminist at amazon it says i don't like rolo i'm gonna delete all this stuff imagine how many people with that one deletion that one backspace that one delete key how many men died because you did that how many men didn't get to didn't get that information that they needed how many men could have changed and bettered their lives because you hit the delete key so anyways that is my speech and i'm going to give you some time to ask questions because i know you did so line them up i need some sunglasses so as this movement gets bigger it will get more eyeballs more eyeballs that don't like it um one of the amazing things that's coming out now it's it's where i'm focusing my career is on blockchain technology and uh i don't know if you have any thoughts on how we can use decentralized technologies so that this cannot be censored right that's the main characteristic of blockchain is i i tend to agree with vox day and vox day has um actually written quite extensive this quite extensively for a very long time about the necessity for the manasphere and in our in our world in the manasphere to start their own platforms you want to talk about an opportunity in the manasphere that is starting something like blockchain starting a new platform starting something like gab gab was the answer to to twitter because twitter was just you know killing off whoever their ideological rivals were we need more guys who can start a uh a red pill version of youtube we need a um we need more alternatives for platforms and i and honestly to i think that that's going to happen you want to make a million here i'm going to give you this is not entrepreneurship but i'm going to tell you a secret if you want to make a million bucks start one of these platforms start something where that this is the niche market the niche market that you need to get involved in particularly if you have the know how or you know people who have the know how is to start those platforms and to get those things started because that's going to be imperative in the in the coming you know gender cold war but yeah as far as a cryptocurrency i think cryptos right you know blockchain um for sure uh i think that that those are going to play an integral part in it but they're only going to play an integral part if people can get off their ass and they can do something like that i don't have the i don't have the know how to do that if i could code i would probably try to do something like that because i see that the other thing i was going to say is like if you're an ideas guy if you're a guy who was like writes like fiction or something like that write red pill fiction because in this day and age it's going to seem novel because nobody's ever heard of captain kirk or han solo or any of these guys that are like he's strong you know old school masculine characters it's going to seem novel one of the reasons why marvel comics is in the shitter right now is because they don't know how to write those characters anymore because they don't have and there's nobody nobody there on their staff that is either scared shitless to do it or else they don't know it they don't know how to write a strong masculine character so it's always the warrior princess it's always uh that's you know it's always ray in star wars it's always that kind of if you write i think one of the reasons why uh the han solo movie got panned is because nobody's familiar with that old you know captain kirk han solo strong red pill you know doesn't give a rat's ass about anything he only cares about you know that kind of masculine archetype will seem novel in this day and age because nobody knows anything about it you could write you could rewrite one of the old classics and people wouldn't know any different because they would think that it's new if i may um i was wondering like when do you think we need a contingency plan or something for the whole red pill thing like a red pill arc or something because like for example if a like a guy like tim ferris arc yeah i like that we're gonna save all the red pill then yes then i know i arc here okay it's starting to rain because um like if somebody like tim ferris or joe rogan would like make this public like the ideas he would have like a huge audience people uh people ask me or they i i gotta got a lot of guys that hit me up on twitter and they say you know i how come you're not on joe rogan how come you didn't you know how come you don't go talk to to these guys and i think honestly i like joe but i think that i might be a little too hot for him and i mean that in a sense that what i talk about might cut a little too close to home for somebody like that because i know he's got a i think he married a single mother or something i'm not really sure so i think if he was reading my stuff it might be a little too raw for him but i do understand what you're saying um yeah what we need we need a red pill arc right um we need to make those contingency plans um and we did we actually have a contingency plan um at least as far as the red pill reddit goes um if you haven't heard i'll go ahead and give you the url right now if you go to trp dot red right now that is sort of the fallback forum for the red pill reddit that is still quarantined which doesn't mean that it's gone it just means that you can only get there if you were a subscriber before so i've been trying to sort of copy and paste things over to my twitter feed because i still have quite a i got a semi decent twitter following i guess and so i try to broadcast that and and show that off i'm only hoping i'm not like hanging myself by doing that but yeah contingency plans are very important i think that that going forward um i mean that's you want another opportunity there you go make contingency plans that people can jump on make your arc build your arc please bro thanks for your work uh under threats um i feel like there's a threat of being alienated from family and friends um although i know that's a big risk and i'm willing to take it having a group like this too with like minded guys are seeing someone like goldman running the country like free spirited is like a breath of fresh air to to just observe him from how he's doing it but i just wanted to comment on that uh yeah i mean like ryan said said it pretty good about being a digital nomad and you know going and doing your thing but at some point you need to build something uh i've i've told guys this before i mean when you're in your 20s um i think you're just sort of figuring shit out particularly in this day in age you're still figuring things out when you get to be into your 30s that's what i think you should be your your building stage um it's you got enough you got enough information and you're just like i said when you get to be about 35 36 years old men generally start to hit their sexual market value peak right there because they're kind of hitting their stride you know they maybe they it takes longer for a man to be a man than it does for a woman to be a woman that's why i peg female um sexual market value peak at 23 and i peg men's at about 36 and i'm happy to say that even the huffington post has agreed with me recently on that except they think it's eight if they think it's 18 and men at 50 which i think it's i'm great i'm 50 but um but yeah i i think that uh your 30s should be your building phase uh where you're building your empire i told anthony this too recently i said you're entering into your 30s i said you're going to be building your empire and you're certainly building your empire right now um and then when you get to be your four into your 40s you kind of have to rule your kingdom and you have to you know you're building your castle in your 30s you're ruling your kingdom when you're into your 40s uh when you get into your 50s uh i don't know i'll let you know i think that you know becoming a digital nomad there's still i understand the appeal of that and we've had erin clary on uh the red man group and i he and i are have always been really good friends we're kind of like kindred spirits um but he likes to pick up and go do his own things he loves his freedom that's good migthouse love your freedom good fine but understand that at some point um that's going to be jeopardized that's going to be threatened it's going to be threatened by everything that i've talked about in this speech today is that the gynaocracy does not like i mean what why is that appealing that's appealing because it's more appealing for guys to go off and enjoy the decline that it is to uh band together and build something together and cooperate together because the gynaocracy wants to keep us separate they want to keep us from gathering together um it's like having talked to a few people here um or and um a lot of people most people come to the red pill through trauma yes they're trying they're hurt they're zeroed out and they need to find an answer my question is how do we market the red pill to men before they are traumatized well that's a tough one um because a lot of people are locked down um before men get to that and one more what just to clarify things what i mean by trauma as usually guys are breaking up with their girlfriend or they've gotten so things have gotten so bad with their wives that they're like they're looking online and saying what do i do um that's one way another way is maybe they've had their lives changed maybe had their lives ruined by me too at allegation maybe they'd you know like that's that's one thing i got me about the kavina thing is like as soon as this guy goes through the meat grinder he just you know goes back and apologizes and is now i'm going to hire women in my cabinet please let me you know be your friend and it's like you just got put you know through the the chipper man um and so when guys get to that that stage where they're where they're traumatized um that's when everything they believed gets challenged so how do you challenge men's beliefs before that happens there's there's really only kind of come back and think of his is two ways uh one your dad was like red pill and he didn't really understand what he was all about and then suddenly you get your ass handed to you by a woman and now your dad doesn't seem like such an idiot anymore um and getting to these guys is tough because they're blue pill conditioned you gotta understand the extent of blue pill conditioning i mean it happens when we're five years old i mean it's like uh pac amble is talking about uh we raise our kids is it our boys is if they're defective girls right now and so you're looking at a lifetime of a lifetime of conditioning so that when they get to that point when they have that trauma they might kill themselves because they don't know anything else and so the best thing that i can do and is write books and and you know help people as i can but best thing that you can do is keep an eye on that guy people always ask me how do i how do i unplug my friend i really want him to read the rational mail but he won't um you know he thinks i'm a misogynist asshole well what you do is you wait if you really care for that guy you wait for your moments you wait until his his uh his ideas are challenged you wait for him to well or you point out to him i should say uh examples of red pill awareness or use your red pill lens and say hey did you see this over here this is what i was telling you about when you know from a red pill perspective you see this over here did you see how that girl acted towards that other girl did you see uh you know jimmy and jane's uh relationship you know why that's happening because you just stay on top of that and you stay aware of that and then when they get to a point where that ego investment has kind of broken down that's when you can say look i've been trying to tell you this for a long time but you know here's the rational mail here's what i believe here's you know how to make your life a little bit better so that's the best way i can say it remember unplugging guys from the from the matrix is like triage okay so you save the ones that you can and then you read last rights to the dying and if they come back to you later and say man you're right i just got you know hey great man i'm glad to have you back into the fold and you want to help them and you want to mentor them i always tell guys especially like fathers don't just think that you're a red pill parent to your own kids you're also probably the only positive masculine influence that a lot of these kids are going to get because in this day and age when we've got like 80 percent of guys who are beta and we're living in a feminine primary social order those even those little boys will probably still have ideas about gender dynamics that are completely influenced by women's studies and the gynaocracy and they don't even know that they have been so it's up to you to live out that mentorship and to be a to serve as an example it's always it's better to demonstrate than it is to explicate so that's all the time we have all right time give it up roll to massey